Date: 13/06/2019 12:59:55
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1399131
Subject: From sarah's mum

From: sarahs mum
ID: 1399130
Subject: re: June Chat 2019
Study Claims One Punctuation Mark Has Been Skewing Our Scientific Ranking System

https://www.sciencealert.com/hyphens-break-our-entire-system-of-scientific-ranking-new-analysis-reveals?&fbclid=IwAR01jBek7jWIRmSIwaM_T2wyXK2lEypgbuui8zt7Hhf-b0Tl07xXfTot5Nk&tb_cb=1

Scientists discover weakness in common cold virus

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20190612/Scientists-discover-weakness-in-common-cold-virus.aspx?fbclid=IwAR1wDifHsEVq1lrl6FHUxJ2gI7z3ERYpd-FGyswlwg33-C4Kpxke7XxDIpM

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Date: 13/06/2019 13:02:09
From: Rule 303
ID: 1399133
Subject: re: From sarah's mum

Study Claims One Punctuation Mark Has Been Skewing Our Scientific Ranking System

Scientists discover weakness in common cold virus

Hehe…

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Date: 13/06/2019 13:06:41
From: furious
ID: 1399135
Subject: re: From sarah's mum

Rule 303 said:


Study Claims One Punctuation Mark Has Been Skewing Our Scientific Ranking System

Scientists discover weakness in common cold virus

Hehe…

Just a note: When making these links, you really should leave out everything from the ? onwards. Everything from there is just tracking…

This:

Study Claims One Punctuation Mark Has Been Skewing Our Scientific Ranking System

Works equally as well…

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Date: 13/06/2019 13:08:01
From: furious
ID: 1399137
Subject: re: From sarah's mum

Brought over from Chat:

Do you think the author of the article became conscious of hyphens be cause they seem to use an awful lot of them? Or maybe it is me who has become conscious of them whilst looking at the article…

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Date: 13/06/2019 13:09:52
From: Rule 303
ID: 1399140
Subject: re: From sarah's mum

furious said:


Rule 303 said:

Study Claims One Punctuation Mark Has Been Skewing Our Scientific Ranking System

Scientists discover weakness in common cold virus

Hehe…

Cheers.

Just a note: When making these links, you really should leave out everything from the ? onwards. Everything from there is just tracking…

This:

Study Claims One Punctuation Mark Has Been Skewing Our Scientific Ranking System

Works equally as well…

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Date: 13/06/2019 13:11:43
From: furious
ID: 1399141
Subject: re: From sarah's mum

One thing that might upset a poorly designed search algorithm would be that sometimes you get this:

and sometimes you get this:

-

and some search functions would see them differently…

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Date: 13/06/2019 13:12:41
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1399142
Subject: re: From sarah's mum

mollwollfumble said:


From: sarahs mum
ID: 1399130
Subject: re: June Chat 2019
Study Claims One Punctuation Mark Has Been Skewing Our Scientific Ranking System

https://www.sciencealert.com/hyphens-break-our-entire-system-of-scientific-ranking-new-analysis-reveals?&fbclid=IwAR01jBek7jWIRmSIwaM_T2wyXK2lEypgbuui8zt7Hhf-b0Tl07xXfTot5Nk&tb_cb=1

Scientists discover weakness in common cold virus

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20190612/Scientists-discover-weakness-in-common-cold-virus.aspx?fbclid=IwAR1wDifHsEVq1lrl6FHUxJ2gI7z3ERYpd-FGyswlwg33-C4Kpxke7XxDIpM

First paper. If more hyphens mean longer headings, more esoteric subjects, more impenetrable grammar for example, then it may not be the indexing system that’s at fault, but the original authors.

“for example, when researchers make typos when referencing other papers, such as spelling the author’s name wrong”

Oh dear, my poor colleague whose name is “Apelt”, we wrote a joint paper and it was only after publication that we noticed that i had accidentally swapped two letters in his name on the paper. It appeared as “Aplet”.

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Date: 13/06/2019 13:28:27
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1399154
Subject: re: From sarah's mum

thank you for the thread.

:)

TITLE COLON DESCRIPTION OF STUDY PREPOSITION OBSCURE FIELD OF STUDY

No hyphen needed.

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Date: 13/06/2019 13:32:58
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1399161
Subject: re: From sarah's mum

Talking of skewing of perceptions, who noticed that most of the bar charts had a non-zero and varying baseline?

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Date: 13/06/2019 13:35:47
From: furious
ID: 1399165
Subject: re: From sarah's mum

Ha! All except the Math one…

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Date: 13/06/2019 13:44:11
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1399175
Subject: re: From sarah's mum

furious said:

  • Talking of skewing of perceptions, who noticed that most of the bar charts had a non-zero … baseline?

Ha! All except the Math one…

I have to confess, it was only on my second visit I realised that the range of results for Math was as high or higher than the others, rather than being much less.

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Date: 13/06/2019 15:15:04
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1399224
Subject: re: From sarah's mum

> https://www.news-medical.net/news/20190612/Scientists-discover-weakness-in-common-cold-virus.aspx

Excellent piece of work.

“The study explains that capsid binders are the best-studied type of medication, which operate by fitting into a hydrophobic pocket in the virus particle and stop it from interacting with the host cell. Unfortunately, there are no antiviral medications that can treat or prevent rhino- or enteroviruses.”

There darn well ought to have been by now. Even if it isn’t always effective.

“one particular compound, identified by virologist and co-author of the study Sarah Butcher, was found to bind to a pocket that was then discovered to be common among picornaviruses. The pocket is an excellent target for antivirals”.

Good. I want it on the shelves within 4 months.

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Date: 14/06/2019 05:31:38
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1399455
Subject: re: From sarah's mum

sarahs mum said:

Fossils of giant new species of sea creature found on South Australia’s Kangaroo Island
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-06-13/giant-trilobite-redlichia-rex-found-on-kangaroo-island/11207232
That’s a satisfyingly big trilobite.

PermeateFree said:


Bubblecar said:

PermeateFree said:

Bit of hype there, according to the text it was only 30 cm in length, which seems on the small side to me. The guy lying on the ground is next to a Sauropod Dinosaur foot-print that is regarded as the largest of that group of dinosaurs.

It’s still the biggest trilobite so far found in this country.

>>Trilobites range in length from minute (less than 3 millimetres (0.12 in)) to very large (over 30 centimetres (12 in)), with an average size range of 3–10 cm (1.2–3.9 in). Supposedly the smallest species is Acanthopleurella stipulae with a maximum of 1.5 millimetres (0.059 in). The world’s largest-known trilobite specimen, assigned to Isotelus rex of 72 cm, was found in 1998 by Canadian scientists in Ordovician rocks on the shores of Hudson Bay.<<

Wiki

There was one on TV from the Flinders Ranges that shocked me by how big it was.

The one from Kangaroo Island is billed as “The fossils, called Redlichia rex, were the largest Cambrian trilobite to be discovered in Australia.”

So either the older one was smaller, or larger but not from the Cambrian, or I’m remembering wrongly and it was really from Kangaroo Island.

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Date: 14/06/2019 07:37:55
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1399468
Subject: re: From sarah's mum

The severed head of a wolf that died about 40,000 years ago has been found in Siberia, and because of the freezing conditions, the remains are so well preserved that the fur, teeth, brain and facial tissue are largely intact.

Pavel Yefimov, a local resident, discovered the head last summer on the banks of the Tirekhtyakh river close to the Arctic Circle in the region of Yakutia, according to the Siberian Times.

The head was handed to the Science Academy of Yakutia. Researchers there sent samples and measurement data abroad and with help from colleagues in Japan and Sweden determined its age as approximately 40,000 years, the news outlet said.

Footage provided to Reuters TV by the academy shows the head of an animal, visibly bigger than that of a modern wolf, covered with fur and with teeth visible. Its eyes are missing.

The head is to undergo plastination, a technique of replacing water and fat with plastics that prevents decay and preserves tissue for scientific purposes.

“This is a fixation by chemical means, so that the fur would not come off and so that we could keep it unfrozen,” Valery Plotnikov, one of academy scientists, said in the footage.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jun/13/frozen-wolfs-head-found-in-siberia-is-40000-years-old

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