Date: 24/06/2019 09:49:30
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1403285
Subject: Public Interest versus Privacy

Boris Johnson’s neighbour speaks out about calling the police over domestic row

The neighbour of British MP Boris Johnson has spoken publicly about his decision to call the police after he heard a loud altercation with a woman coming from Mr Johnson’s apartment on Friday.

Key points:

Boris Johnson’s neighbour Tom Penn says he shared audio of the incident with the media because it was in the public interest
Johnson, who is frontrunner to become Britain’s next PM, has served as London mayor and foreign secretary
The Conservative MP declined to comment on the incident during a party event over the weekend

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Is this story in the public interest or not?

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Date: 24/06/2019 10:27:31
From: transition
ID: 1403292
Subject: re: Public Interest versus Privacy

does anyone ever look to be volunteering some information, or a story, and start with do you want to hear…, and you find yourself thinking quite possibly not and you respond out loud something like I won’t know until i’ve heard it and do I want to know.

apparently the enthusiasm of the deliverer is meant to be contagious, and dirt is juicy.

how dirt got be juicy I can’t say, they seem so different.

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Date: 24/06/2019 12:21:56
From: Woodie
ID: 1403322
Subject: re: Public Interest versus Privacy

We’ve got ScoMo and Albo, they’ll soon have BoJo.

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Date: 24/06/2019 13:50:50
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1403355
Subject: re: Public Interest versus Privacy

I can understand why the neighbour thought the content of the altercation was of public interest, since the criticisms Johnson’s partner aimed at him are very similar to many of the public criticisms made of him in the political arena.

So it’s a matter of “Look, even his own partner thinks he’s a spoilt, selfish, thoughtless bastard etc etc”.

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Date: 24/06/2019 14:17:39
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1403369
Subject: re: Public Interest versus Privacy

Bubblecar said:


I can understand why the neighbour thought the content of the altercation was of public interest, since the criticisms Johnson’s partner aimed at him are very similar to many of the public criticisms made of him in the political arena.

So it’s a matter of “Look, even his own partner thinks he’s a spoilt, selfish, thoughtless bastard etc etc”.

He’d qualify for POTUS so why not PM of the UK?

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Date: 24/06/2019 14:25:45
From: transition
ID: 1403373
Subject: re: Public Interest versus Privacy

might start with neutrino’s working concept of public interest, i’m guessing it probably has more substance than his working concept of privacy, and there are no shortage of compensations on offer to hide that distortion.

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Date: 24/06/2019 15:12:53
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1403378
Subject: re: Public Interest versus Privacy

> Is this story in the public interest or not?

Given that 90% of news stories are already not in the public interest, i’d rate this as more in the public interest than most.

If he’s one of the men who abuse women then that does not speak well for his character.

As a general rule, privacy / secrecy is not in the public interest. Eg. Think about if the Watergate tapes were withheld on the basis of hearing them being an invasion of privacy and therefore not in the public interest.

transition said:


might start with neutrino’s working concept of public interest, i’m guessing it probably has more substance than his working concept of privacy, and there are no shortage of compensations on offer to hide that distortion.

“Public interest” – curious topic. It’s self contadictory. People always have a morbid fascination for things that are bad for them.

“Working concept of privacy” – is there such a thing as privacy? Does the word “privacy” have any real meaning?

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Date: 24/06/2019 15:19:42
From: transition
ID: 1403380
Subject: re: Public Interest versus Privacy

>“Working concept of privacy” – is there such a thing as privacy? Does the word “privacy” have any real meaning?

absolutely it does, some protection for an individual’s operating space, differentiated operating space(of), you know privacy protects you from others that have an inadequate working concept, or even a (perhaps wildly) different working concept.

maintaining mental states (homeostasis) involves psychological territory, which is necessarily in large part a private business.

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Date: 24/06/2019 15:44:16
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1403389
Subject: re: Public Interest versus Privacy

transition said:


>“Working concept of privacy” – is there such a thing as privacy? Does the word “privacy” have any real meaning?

absolutely it does, some protection for an individual’s operating space, differentiated operating space(of), you know privacy protects you from others that have an inadequate working concept, or even a (perhaps wildly) different working concept.

maintaining mental states (homeostasis) involves psychological territory, which is necessarily in large part a private business.

OK. That makes sense.

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Date: 24/06/2019 23:00:42
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1403592
Subject: re: Public Interest versus Privacy

Boris Johnson’s pitch is all about his character. That’s why the row in his flat matters

Matthew d’Ancona

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/23/boris-johnson-politics-personality-row-flat-prime-minister

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Date: 25/06/2019 11:19:39
From: transition
ID: 1403644
Subject: re: Public Interest versus Privacy

mollwollfumble said:


transition said:

>“Working concept of privacy” – is there such a thing as privacy? Does the word “privacy” have any real meaning?

absolutely it does, some protection for an individual’s operating space, differentiated operating space(of), you know privacy protects you from others that have an inadequate working concept, or even a (perhaps wildly) different working concept.

maintaining mental states (homeostasis) involves psychological territory, which is necessarily in large part a private business.

OK. That makes sense.

working could mean developed, applied, active, adaptive, developing

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Date: 26/06/2019 05:19:13
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1404077
Subject: re: Public Interest versus Privacy

transition said:

working could mean developed, applied, active, adaptive, developing

It’s alive ?!

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Date: 26/06/2019 11:15:17
From: transition
ID: 1404166
Subject: re: Public Interest versus Privacy

mollwollfumble said:


transition said:

working could mean developed, applied, active, adaptive, developing

It’s alive ?!

i’m guessing that people of high status, or aspiring to high status, especially where they are involved in a lot of other peoples business, express a keenness to lead, affairs of state shall I say + grand noises of moral propriety, might be subject to group forces that counter immodest ambitions. Fair game.

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