Date: 27/06/2019 19:42:27
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1404933
Subject: Prehistoric bird standing 11.5 ft tall and weighing half a ton found in Crimean cave

Having once been attacked by an ostrich, having one of these after you would be terrifying.

>>Dated to between 1.5 and 2 million years old, the bird belongs to the species Pachystruthio dmanisensis. Judging by the hefty thigh bone, the researchers estimated that it would have stood at least 3.5 m (11.5 ft) tall, and weighed as much as 450 kg (992 lb). That makes it one of the largest birds to ever exist.

“This formidable weight is nearly double the largest moa, three times the largest living bird, the common ostrich<<

https://newatlas.com/gigantic-bird-fossil-crimea/60290/

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Date: 27/06/2019 19:44:42
From: roughbarked
ID: 1404934
Subject: re: Prehistoric bird standing 11.5 ft tall and weighing half a ton found in Crimean cave

PermeateFree said:


Having once been attacked by an ostrich, having one of these after you would be terrifying.

>>Dated to between 1.5 and 2 million years old, the bird belongs to the species Pachystruthio dmanisensis. Judging by the hefty thigh bone, the researchers estimated that it would have stood at least 3.5 m (11.5 ft) tall, and weighed as much as 450 kg (992 lb). That makes it one of the largest birds to ever exist.

“This formidable weight is nearly double the largest moa, three times the largest living bird, the common ostrich<<

https://newatlas.com/gigantic-bird-fossil-crimea/60290/

Should the humans be in the image?

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Date: 27/06/2019 19:44:48
From: party_pants
ID: 1404935
Subject: re: Prehistoric bird standing 11.5 ft tall and weighing half a ton found in Crimean cave

Thanks, interesting new find. I love megafauna, I find the topic most interesting.

… but I have to ask for the full story about the ostrich

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Date: 27/06/2019 19:45:12
From: party_pants
ID: 1404936
Subject: re: Prehistoric bird standing 11.5 ft tall and weighing half a ton found in Crimean cave

roughbarked said:

Should the humans be in the image?

not from 2 MYA.

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Date: 27/06/2019 19:46:13
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1404937
Subject: re: Prehistoric bird standing 11.5 ft tall and weighing half a ton found in Crimean cave

tastes like chicken?

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Date: 27/06/2019 19:50:09
From: roughbarked
ID: 1404938
Subject: re: Prehistoric bird standing 11.5 ft tall and weighing half a ton found in Crimean cave

sarahs mum said:


tastes like chicken?

no being alive that is able to recall.

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Date: 27/06/2019 19:51:01
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1404940
Subject: re: Prehistoric bird standing 11.5 ft tall and weighing half a ton found in Crimean cave

sarahs mum said:


tastes like chicken?

Nothing left to taste I think.

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Date: 27/06/2019 19:51:32
From: AwesomeO
ID: 1404941
Subject: re: Prehistoric bird standing 11.5 ft tall and weighing half a ton found in Crimean cave

I think those parts of Eastern Europe that were under communism are due for some very interesting discoveries and it’s taken them this long to dig themselves out of poverty enough to start pottering around looking at prehistory.

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Date: 27/06/2019 20:01:10
From: dv
ID: 1404955
Subject: re: Prehistoric bird standing 11.5 ft tall and weighing half a ton found in Crimean cave

Not impossible there were H.erectus in Eastern Europe around that time.

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Date: 27/06/2019 20:03:56
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1404957
Subject: re: Prehistoric bird standing 11.5 ft tall and weighing half a ton found in Crimean cave

roughbarked said:


PermeateFree said:

Having once been attacked by an ostrich, having one of these after you would be terrifying.

>>Dated to between 1.5 and 2 million years old, the bird belongs to the species Pachystruthio dmanisensis. Judging by the hefty thigh bone, the researchers estimated that it would have stood at least 3.5 m (11.5 ft) tall, and weighed as much as 450 kg (992 lb). That makes it one of the largest birds to ever exist.

“This formidable weight is nearly double the largest moa, three times the largest living bird, the common ostrich<<

https://newatlas.com/gigantic-bird-fossil-crimea/60290/

Should the humans be in the image?

There were certainly many hominids around 1.5 to 2 million years ago, including Homo erectus.

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Date: 27/06/2019 20:06:03
From: roughbarked
ID: 1404959
Subject: re: Prehistoric bird standing 11.5 ft tall and weighing half a ton found in Crimean cave

dv said:


Not impossible there were H.erectus in Eastern Europe around that time.

OK. They did stand erect.

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Date: 27/06/2019 20:18:39
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1404966
Subject: re: Prehistoric bird standing 11.5 ft tall and weighing half a ton found in Crimean cave

PermeateFree said:


Having once been attacked by an ostrich, having one of these after you would be terrifying.

>>Dated to between 1.5 and 2 million years old, the bird belongs to the species Pachystruthio dmanisensis. Judging by the hefty thigh bone, the researchers estimated that it would have stood at least 3.5 m tall, and weighed as much as 450 kg. That makes it one of the largest birds to ever exist.

“This formidable weight is nearly double the largest moa, three times the largest living bird, the common ostrich<<

https://newatlas.com/gigantic-bird-fossil-crimea/60290/

How does this compare with the elephant bird of Madagascar?

“They became extinct, perhaps around 1000–1200 CE. In September 2018, scientists determined that Vorombe titan reached weights of 730 kg and stood 3 m tall, making it the world’s largest bird, slightly larger than the much older Dromornis stirtoni.”

So the elephant bird was heavier but shorter.

“it has been deduced from DNA sequence comparisons that the closest living relatives of elephant birds are New Zealand kiwi. Two whole eggs have been found in dune deposits in southern Western Australia. Both have been identified as Aepyornis maximus rather than Genyornis.”

I’m still not understanding the whole Pachystruthio vs Vorombe vs Dromornis vs Aepyornis vs Genyornis thing.

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Date: 27/06/2019 20:23:44
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1404977
Subject: re: Prehistoric bird standing 11.5 ft tall and weighing half a ton found in Crimean cave

mollwollfumble said:


PermeateFree said:

Having once been attacked by an ostrich, having one of these after you would be terrifying.

>>Dated to between 1.5 and 2 million years old, the bird belongs to the species Pachystruthio dmanisensis. Judging by the hefty thigh bone, the researchers estimated that it would have stood at least 3.5 m tall, and weighed as much as 450 kg. That makes it one of the largest birds to ever exist.

“This formidable weight is nearly double the largest moa, three times the largest living bird, the common ostrich<<

https://newatlas.com/gigantic-bird-fossil-crimea/60290/

How does this compare with the elephant bird of Madagascar?

“They became extinct, perhaps around 1000–1200 CE. In September 2018, scientists determined that Vorombe titan reached weights of 730 kg and stood 3 m tall, making it the world’s largest bird, slightly larger than the much older Dromornis stirtoni.”

So the elephant bird was heavier but shorter.

“it has been deduced from DNA sequence comparisons that the closest living relatives of elephant birds are New Zealand kiwi. Two whole eggs have been found in dune deposits in southern Western Australia. Both have been identified as Aepyornis maximus rather than Genyornis.”

I’m still not understanding the whole Pachystruthio vs Vorombe vs Dromornis vs Aepyornis vs Genyornis thing.


There is mention of the elephant bird in the article, suggest you read it.

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Date: 27/06/2019 22:53:03
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1405039
Subject: re: Prehistoric bird standing 11.5 ft tall and weighing half a ton found in Crimean cave

PermeateFree said:


mollwollfumble said:

PermeateFree said:

Having once been attacked by an ostrich, having one of these after you would be terrifying.

>>Dated to between 1.5 and 2 million years old, the bird belongs to the species Pachystruthio dmanisensis. Judging by the hefty thigh bone, the researchers estimated that it would have stood at least 3.5 m tall, and weighed as much as 450 kg. That makes it one of the largest birds to ever exist.

“This formidable weight is nearly double the largest moa, three times the largest living bird, the common ostrich<<

https://newatlas.com/gigantic-bird-fossil-crimea/60290/

How does this compare with the elephant bird of Madagascar?

“They became extinct, perhaps around 1000–1200 CE. In September 2018, scientists determined that Vorombe titan reached weights of 730 kg and stood 3 m tall, making it the world’s largest bird, slightly larger than the much older Dromornis stirtoni.”

So the elephant bird was heavier but shorter.

“it has been deduced from DNA sequence comparisons that the closest living relatives of elephant birds are New Zealand kiwi. Two whole eggs have been found in dune deposits in southern Western Australia. Both have been identified as Aepyornis maximus rather than Genyornis.”

I’m still not understanding the whole Pachystruthio vs Vorombe vs Dromornis vs Aepyornis vs Genyornis thing.


There is mention of the elephant bird in the article, suggest you read it.

Here it is.

“The new bird’s femur was longer and slimmer than those of elephant birds. Closer in shape to the modern ostrich, that suggests that it was a much faster runner than elephant birds, which weren’t built for speed with their big and bulky frames. The most intriguing thing about the bird is where it was found. Previously, gigantic bird bones have only been found in the Southern Hemisphere – the moa in New Zealand, the elephant bird in Madagascar, and the dromornithids of Australia. Finding these fossils in Crimea indicates that giant, ancient birds were more widespread than we thought.”

I wonder …

All of the many species of flightless birds currently in the world live in the southern hemisphere. Or their range crosses the equator.

Could it be that flightless birds were originally found worldwide but were pretty well wiped out soon after primative man arrived in the northern hemisphere?

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Date: 28/06/2019 22:56:06
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1405360
Subject: re: Prehistoric bird standing 11.5 ft tall and weighing half a ton found in Crimean cave

i saved an emu from drowning once

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Date: 29/06/2019 01:30:17
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1405401
Subject: re: Prehistoric bird standing 11.5 ft tall and weighing half a ton found in Crimean cave

wookiemeister said:


i saved an emu from drowning once

Good on yer!

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