With high end smart phones having up to 22 sensors, plus access to any number of external sensors, these sensor arrays could be used to commit crimes .

Sensor arrays can also be used in criminal forensics

Developing a sensor list and associating various crimes to each type of sensor seems a good idea.

yes/ no?

Tau.Neutrino said:

With high end smart phones having up to 22 sensors, plus access to any number of external sensors, these sensor arrays could be used to commit crimes .

Sensor arrays can also be used in criminal forensics

Developing a sensor list and associating various crimes to each type of sensor seems a good idea.

yes/ no?

I’m not sure I completely understand what you mean.. can you give us an example?

I recall a victim being found because her pedometer pinpointed her location.. but the police have been using that tech for a while now.

Other sensors? like the fingerprint sensor? the barometer? in what capacity are you thinking of using it?

You could use a phone to scan RFID cards

Modern payment cards have a built in chip that transmits the cards’ information wirelessly. This is because it is necessary in order to enable contactless payments, which has become increasingly popular during recent years. Criminals can take advantage of this new technology by using a scanner that wirelessly scans the victim’s payment card in the same way that a cash register scans it, when making a contactless payment. These scanners are legal and can be bought in regular electronics stores.

Most modern mobile phones running Android OS have a built in NFC reader that can be used to unlawfully scan contactless payment cards. A criminal can hide the scanner e.g. inside a glove or a bag, and then place himself close to the victim and wirelessly steal the victim’s payment card information.

With the wirelessly obtained payment card information, the criminal can use it to make fraudulent purchases online. This is called Card Not Present fraud.

Arts said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

With high end smart phones having up to 22 sensors, plus access to any number of external sensors, these sensor arrays could be used to commit crimes .

Sensor arrays can also be used in criminal forensics

Developing a sensor list and associating various crimes to each type of sensor seems a good idea.

yes/ no?

I’m not sure I completely understand what you mean.. can you give us an example?

I recall a victim being found because her pedometer pinpointed her location.. but the police have been using that tech for a while now.

Other sensors? like the fingerprint sensor? the barometer? in what capacity are you thinking of using it?

Vibration sensors (Accelerometers) in most smartphones could be used by a sex offender/ stalker to find out when a person is having sex by simply placing one against a wall / floor or window i-and reading the vibration patterns.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Arts said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

With high end smart phones having up to 22 sensors, plus access to any number of external sensors, these sensor arrays could be used to commit crimes .

Sensor arrays can also be used in criminal forensics

Developing a sensor list and associating various crimes to each type of sensor seems a good idea.

yes/ no?

I’m not sure I completely understand what you mean.. can you give us an example?

I recall a victim being found because her pedometer pinpointed her location.. but the police have been using that tech for a while now.

Other sensors? like the fingerprint sensor? the barometer? in what capacity are you thinking of using it?

Vibration sensors (Accelerometers) in most smartphones could be used by a sex offender/ stalker to find out when a person is having sex by simply placing one against a wall / floor or window i-and reading the vibration patterns.

They could listen for screams and moans as well and have it record when they hear words like “Oh baby give it to me baby”

Cymek said:

You could use a phone to scan RFID cards

Modern payment cards have a built in chip that transmits the cards’ information wirelessly. This is because it is necessary in order to enable contactless payments, which has become increasingly popular during recent years. Criminals can take advantage of this new technology by using a scanner that wirelessly scans the victim’s payment card in the same way that a cash register scans it, when making a contactless payment. These scanners are legal and can be bought in regular electronics stores.

Most modern mobile phones running Android OS have a built in NFC reader that can be used to unlawfully scan contactless payment cards. A criminal can hide the scanner e.g. inside a glove or a bag, and then place himself close to the victim and wirelessly steal the victim’s payment card information.

With the wirelessly obtained payment card information, the criminal can use it to make fraudulent purchases online. This is called Card Not Present fraud.

yes, this happens not infrequently, allegedly.

if not with a phone with the cards on a person… hence the use of the ‘scramblers’. which afaict, are just a metal box..

Cymek said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Arts said:

I’m not sure I completely understand what you mean.. can you give us an example?

I recall a victim being found because her pedometer pinpointed her location.. but the police have been using that tech for a while now.

Other sensors? like the fingerprint sensor? the barometer? in what capacity are you thinking of using it?

Vibration sensors (Accelerometers) in most smartphones could be used by a sex offender/ stalker to find out when a person is having sex by simply placing one against a wall / floor or window i-and reading the vibration patterns.

They could listen for screams and moans as well and have it record when they hear words like “Oh baby give it to me baby”

Mics can pick up conversions through walls easily

All smartphones have mics

A microphone is a sensor.

The camera is another sensor.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Arts said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

With high end smart phones having up to 22 sensors, plus access to any number of external sensors, these sensor arrays could be used to commit crimes .

Sensor arrays can also be used in criminal forensics

Developing a sensor list and associating various crimes to each type of sensor seems a good idea.

yes/ no?

I’m not sure I completely understand what you mean.. can you give us an example?

I recall a victim being found because her pedometer pinpointed her location.. but the police have been using that tech for a while now.

Other sensors? like the fingerprint sensor? the barometer? in what capacity are you thinking of using it?

Vibration sensors (Accelerometers) in most smartphones could be used by a sex offender/ stalker to find out when a person is having sex by simply placing one against a wall / floor or window i-and reading the vibration patterns.

Most criminals are not criminals all the time… I mean they do everyday normal things also, including sex offenders having sex with consenting people… we would need to refine the difference between an offence and consent..

You could hide a phone to take pictures in inappropriate places.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Arts said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

With high end smart phones having up to 22 sensors, plus access to any number of external sensors, these sensor arrays could be used to commit crimes .

Sensor arrays can also be used in criminal forensics

Developing a sensor list and associating various crimes to each type of sensor seems a good idea.

yes/ no?

I’m not sure I completely understand what you mean.. can you give us an example?

I recall a victim being found because her pedometer pinpointed her location.. but the police have been using that tech for a while now.

Other sensors? like the fingerprint sensor? the barometer? in what capacity are you thinking of using it?

Vibration sensors (Accelerometers) in most smartphones could be used by a sex offender/ stalker to find out when a person is having sex by simply placing one against a wall / floor or window i-and reading the vibration patterns.

This could be set up remotely and have alarms for specific patterns to look for etc.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Arts said:

I’m not sure I completely understand what you mean.. can you give us an example?

I recall a victim being found because her pedometer pinpointed her location.. but the police have been using that tech for a while now.

Other sensors? like the fingerprint sensor? the barometer? in what capacity are you thinking of using it?

Vibration sensors (Accelerometers) in most smartphones could be used by a sex offender/ stalker to find out when a person is having sex by simply placing one against a wall / floor or window i-and reading the vibration patterns.

Thump thump thump, man rolls over, I’m done goodnight baby

This could be set up remotely and have alarms for specific patterns to look for etc.

Arts said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Arts said:

I’m not sure I completely understand what you mean.. can you give us an example?

I recall a victim being found because her pedometer pinpointed her location.. but the police have been using that tech for a while now.

Other sensors? like the fingerprint sensor? the barometer? in what capacity are you thinking of using it?

Vibration sensors (Accelerometers) in most smartphones could be used by a sex offender/ stalker to find out when a person is having sex by simply placing one against a wall / floor or window i-and reading the vibration patterns.

Most criminals are not criminals all the time… I mean they do everyday normal things also, including sex offenders having sex with consenting people… we would need to refine the difference between an offence and consent..

Yes, if a stalker is outside the bedroom window of an underage teen and looking at their private masturbation patterns.

Parents would want to know how to deal with it.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Arts said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Vibration sensors (Accelerometers) in most smartphones could be used by a sex offender/ stalker to find out when a person is having sex by simply placing one against a wall / floor or window i-and reading the vibration patterns.

Most criminals are not criminals all the time… I mean they do everyday normal things also, including sex offenders having sex with consenting people… we would need to refine the difference between an offence and consent..

Yes, if a stalker is outside the bedroom window of an underage teen and looking at their private masturbation patterns.

Parents would want to know how to deal with it.

Would that be likely ?
More grooming type stuff by lying on social media about who you are would be common

Cymek said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Arts said:

Most criminals are not criminals all the time… I mean they do everyday normal things also, including sex offenders having sex with consenting people… we would need to refine the difference between an offence and consent..

Yes, if a stalker is outside the bedroom window of an underage teen and looking at their private masturbation patterns.

Parents would want to know how to deal with it.

Would that be likely ?
More grooming type stuff by lying on social media about who you are would be common

Would sexually curious brothers and sisters ever look at a vibration app?

Sex offenders / stalkers usually ignore consent.

In one of the murder series on TV, probably Bones, (but possibly NCIS).

The recording from a 3-axis accelerometer on a smartphone was integrated to recover the motions involved in a fight that killed someone.

mollwollfumble said:

In one of the murder series on TV, probably Bones, (but possibly NCIS).

The recording from a 3-axis accelerometer on a smartphone was integrated to recover the motions involved in a fight that killed someone.

Yes forensics could get information that way

Also by using smart watches connected to smart phones.

If buildings had sensors built in, that information could be used too.

Drug dealers have evidence against them from phone messages to and from customers

Tau.Neutrino said:

Arts said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

With high end smart phones having up to 22 sensors, plus access to any number of external sensors, these sensor arrays could be used to commit crimes .

Sensor arrays can also be used in criminal forensics

Developing a sensor list and associating various crimes to each type of sensor seems a good idea.

yes/ no?

I’m not sure I completely understand what you mean.. can you give us an example?

I recall a victim being found because her pedometer pinpointed her location.. but the police have been using that tech for a while now.

Other sensors? like the fingerprint sensor? the barometer? in what capacity are you thinking of using it?

Vibration sensors (Accelerometers) in most smartphones could be used by a sex offender/ stalker to find out when a person is having sex by simply placing one against a wall / floor or window i-and reading the vibration patterns.

kinky

Tau.Neutrino said:

Sex offenders / stalkers usually ignore consent.

when they are offending, sure, but they also often get sex by consensual means also.. I mean they don’t spend their whole day stalking and sex offending…

Arts said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Sex offenders / stalkers usually ignore consent.

when they are offending, sure, but they also often get sex by consensual means also.. I mean they don’t spend their whole day stalking and sex offending…

Not usually their day job.. yes I see.