https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDxegcZqx_8

Donald R. Sadoway, Professor, Materials Science and Engineering, MIT
Energy Seminar – October 31, 2016

JudgeMental said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDxegcZqx_8

Donald R. Sadoway, Professor, Materials Science and Engineering, MIT
Energy Seminar – October 31, 2016

He’s as smooth as cocky shit and more polished than a helmet but it sure sounds good.

Peak Warming Man said:

JudgeMental said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDxegcZqx_8

Donald R. Sadoway, Professor, Materials Science and Engineering, MIT
Energy Seminar – October 31, 2016

He’s as smooth as cocky shit and more polished than a helmet but it sure sounds good.

Summarise please. How do you keep liquid metal electrodes from short circuiting when the battery moves, and doesn’t “liquid metal” just mean mercury?

mollwollfumble said:

Peak Warming Man said:

JudgeMental said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDxegcZqx_8

Donald R. Sadoway, Professor, Materials Science and Engineering, MIT
Energy Seminar – October 31, 2016

He’s as smooth as cocky shit and more polished than a helmet but it sure sounds good.

Summarise please. How do you keep liquid metal electrodes from short circuiting when the battery moves, and doesn’t “liquid metal” just mean mercury?

Your enquiries and much more will be answered when you view the link, pilgrim.

I’m watching it now. About half way through. At the 24 minute mark – “we had to invent all the power electronics, the big boys have no interest…”.

Yeah, going to have to call bullshit on that bit at least.

OK, finished watching that. Unfortunately most of it sounded like a marketing spiel (he’s from MIT, why am I shocked) and lots of gee wiz ain’t we great and ‘the big boys don’t do this’ and ‘we only use people who aren’t indoctrinated by big companies’, ‘we think outside the box’, ‘nature sat on our paper for months’ etc etc.

The market will sort it out. If what he states is true then his company will thrive, if not it will sink like a stone.

sibeen said:

OK, finished watching that. Unfortunately most of it sounded like a marketing spiel (he’s from MIT, why am I shocked) and lots of gee wiz ain’t we great and ‘the big boys don’t do this’ and ‘we only use people who aren’t indoctrinated by big companies’, ‘we think outside the box’, ‘nature sat on our paper for months’ etc etc.

The market will sort it out. If what he states is true then his company will thrive, if not it will sink like a stone.

what is the actual tech like though? does it have potential?

JudgeMental said:

sibeen said:

OK, finished watching that. Unfortunately most of it sounded like a marketing spiel (he’s from MIT, why am I shocked) and lots of gee wiz ain’t we great and ‘the big boys don’t do this’ and ‘we only use people who aren’t indoctrinated by big companies’, ‘we think outside the box’, ‘nature sat on our paper for months’ etc etc.

The market will sort it out. If what he states is true then his company will thrive, if not it will sink like a stone.

what is the actual tech like though? does it have potential?

I don’t know and there wasn’t enough information in his spiel to work that out. As I said, if his claims are real then he’s sitting on a goldmine. Battery storage at the same cost as pumped hydro – he’ll be as rich as a weather girl.

sibeen said:

OK, finished watching that. Unfortunately most of it sounded like a marketing spiel (he’s from MIT, why am I shocked) and lots of gee wiz ain’t we great and ‘the big boys don’t do this’ and ‘we only use people who aren’t indoctrinated by big companies’, ‘we think outside the box’, ‘nature sat on our paper for months’ etc etc.

The market will sort it out. If what he states is true then his company will thrive, if not it will sink like a stone.

And an unlimited life, apparently???
Sounds too good but even if he’s gilded the lily and named dropped too often it still looks promising for big field battery storage.
I doubt it would be suitable for the home.

Peak Warming Man said:

sibeen said:

OK, finished watching that. Unfortunately most of it sounded like a marketing spiel (he’s from MIT, why am I shocked) and lots of gee wiz ain’t we great and ‘the big boys don’t do this’ and ‘we only use people who aren’t indoctrinated by big companies’, ‘we think outside the box’, ‘nature sat on our paper for months’ etc etc.

The market will sort it out. If what he states is true then his company will thrive, if not it will sink like a stone.

And an unlimited life, apparently???
Sounds too good but even if he’s gilded the lily and named dropped too often it still looks promising for big field battery storage.
I doubt it would be suitable for the home.

And that video was made 3 years ago, where are they at now???

Peak Warming Man said:

Peak Warming Man said:

sibeen said:

OK, finished watching that. Unfortunately most of it sounded like a marketing spiel (he’s from MIT, why am I shocked) and lots of gee wiz ain’t we great and ‘the big boys don’t do this’ and ‘we only use people who aren’t indoctrinated by big companies’, ‘we think outside the box’, ‘nature sat on our paper for months’ etc etc.

The market will sort it out. If what he states is true then his company will thrive, if not it will sink like a stone.

And an unlimited life, apparently???
Sounds too good but even if he’s gilded the lily and named dropped too often it still looks promising for big field battery storage.
I doubt it would be suitable for the home.

And that video was made 3 years ago, where are they at now???

they all died in a mysterious explosion in the lab…

Peak Warming Man said:

I doubt it would be suitable for the home.

It’s one of the bits I think he tried to avoid. He was giving the output in amphour per cell and avoiding the energy. The cells operate at around 1 volt and the cells are quite large at 10cm x 10cm, and it would be quite difficult to make them smaller. So you need to series up quite a few of these to get to a decent voltage, and therefore lower currents. Power electronics can overcome some of the disadvantages of this, but a small voltage at any reasonable size of storage means bigger currents and all the associated costs that come with that. .

And I’d never trust anyone who keeps his suit jacket buttoned up during a whole lecture. That just scream “snake oil salesman”.

:)

sibeen said:

And I’d never trust anyone who keeps his suit jacket buttoned up during a whole lecture. That just scream “snake oil salesman”.

:)

you probably don’t trust anyone who doesn’t crack open a beer half way through a lecture.

JudgeMental said:

sibeen said:

And I’d never trust anyone who keeps his suit jacket buttoned up during a whole lecture. That just scream “snake oil salesman”.

:)

you probably don’t trust anyone who doesn’t crack open a beer half way through a lecture.

Please don’t be ridiculous. A lecturer should sip discreetly from his or her vodka filled water bottle until the lecture has finished and the door thrown open for questions. Only then can the first stubby be cracked.

I have now finished watching him take questions – sans stubbie. Not any better than the lecture and just as evasive in parts.