Has the amount of information per second from human perception ever been calculated?

Tau.Neutrino said:

Has the amount of information per second from human perception ever been calculated?

People have estimated. Estimates typically come in in a range from 100 MB/s to 1000 MB/s.

dv said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Has the amount of information per second from human perception ever been calculated?

People have estimated. Estimates typically come in in a range from 100 MB/s to 1000 MB/s.

Thanks

dv said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Has the amount of information per second from human perception ever been calculated?

People have estimated. Estimates typically come in in a range from 100 MB/s to 1000 MB/s.

Any estimates for the amount of information per second if robots mimicked human sensory input?

Tau.Neutrino said:

dv said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Has the amount of information per second from human perception ever been calculated?

People have estimated. Estimates typically come in in a range from 100 MB/s to 1000 MB/s.

Thanks

imagine some of the processing stream is bidirectional (perhaps not exact same route), so when you’re asleep with senses folded back what might it do, or be put to.

same applies when different arrangement of sense processes are active, extents, prioritizations, you know i’m sitting here largely ignoring my body, flipping between hearing and sight, blocking sound out, blocking body awareness out too, and I can have moments where I to some extent seemingly go blank, intentionally, that’s quite nice.

so it seems normal to adjust the attentional qualities of a composite of senses. The mix.

dv said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Has the amount of information per second from human perception ever been calculated?

People have estimated. Estimates typically come in in a range from 100 MB/s to 1000 MB/s.

I wonder?

Does that include visual preprocessing in the retina or not?

mollwollfumble said:

dv said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Has the amount of information per second from human perception ever been calculated?

People have estimated. Estimates typically come in in a range from 100 MB/s to 1000 MB/s.

I wonder?

Does that include visual preprocessing in the retina or not?

By far the greatest perceptual information in humans comes from vision. This is not always so with other mammals, the rat gets most of its perceptual information from smell.

“Within the outer plexiform layer of the retina, approximately 125 million photoreceptor cells synapse with approximately 10 million bipolar cells. A smaller number of horizontal cells also”. The horizontal cells don’t directly connect to the optic nerve but (buffy to confirm or deny) enable detection of colour gradients. The bipolar cells connect to retinal ganglion cells, of which there are between 0.7 and 1.5 million.

So the rate of information for human perception after visual preprocessing in the retina comes from the rate of firing of ganglion cells.

At 10 to 100 action potential firings per second as an upper limit, that’s somwhere between 7 megabits per second and 150 megabits per second.

mollwollfumble said:

mollwollfumble said:

dv said:

People have estimated. Estimates typically come in in a range from 100 MB/s to 1000 MB/s.

I wonder?

Does that include visual preprocessing in the retina or not?

By far the greatest perceptual information in humans comes from vision. This is not always so with other mammals, the rat gets most of its perceptual information from smell.

“Within the outer plexiform layer of the retina, approximately 125 million photoreceptor cells synapse with approximately 10 million bipolar cells. A smaller number of horizontal cells also”. The horizontal cells don’t directly connect to the optic nerve but (buffy to confirm or deny) enable detection of colour gradients. The bipolar cells connect to retinal ganglion cells, of which there are between 0.7 and 1.5 million.

So the rate of information for human perception after visual preprocessing in the retina comes from the rate of firing of ganglion cells.

At 10 to 100 action potential firings per second as an upper limit, that’s somwhere between 7 megabits per second and 150 megabits per second.

So say 1-20 MB/s

Seems a big difference from dv’s numbers.

The Rev Dodgson said:

mollwollfumble said:

mollwollfumble said:

I wonder?

Does that include visual preprocessing in the retina or not?

By far the greatest perceptual information in humans comes from vision. This is not always so with other mammals, the rat gets most of its perceptual information from smell.

“Within the outer plexiform layer of the retina, approximately 125 million photoreceptor cells synapse with approximately 10 million bipolar cells. A smaller number of horizontal cells also”. The horizontal cells don’t directly connect to the optic nerve but (buffy to confirm or deny) enable detection of colour gradients. The bipolar cells connect to retinal ganglion cells, of which there are between 0.7 and 1.5 million.

So the rate of information for human perception after visual preprocessing in the retina comes from the rate of firing of ganglion cells.

At 10 to 100 action potential firings per second as an upper limit, that’s somwhere between 7 megabits per second and 150 megabits per second.

So say 1-20 MB/s

Seems a big difference from dv’s numbers.

DV is referring to all perceptions in a range from 100 MB/s to 1000 MB/s.

Mollwollfumble is referring to vision at 7 megabits per second and 150 megabits per second.

Any estimates for the other perceptions going from using most information to least information.

Vision 7-150 MB/s
Hearing
Feeling
Taste
Smell

Total 1000 MB/s

Tau.Neutrino said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

mollwollfumble said:

By far the greatest perceptual information in humans comes from vision. This is not always so with other mammals, the rat gets most of its perceptual information from smell.

“Within the outer plexiform layer of the retina, approximately 125 million photoreceptor cells synapse with approximately 10 million bipolar cells. A smaller number of horizontal cells also”. The horizontal cells don’t directly connect to the optic nerve but (buffy to confirm or deny) enable detection of colour gradients. The bipolar cells connect to retinal ganglion cells, of which there are between 0.7 and 1.5 million.

So the rate of information for human perception after visual preprocessing in the retina comes from the rate of firing of ganglion cells.

At 10 to 100 action potential firings per second as an upper limit, that’s somwhere between 7 megabits per second and 150 megabits per second.

So say 1-20 MB/s

Seems a big difference from dv’s numbers.

DV is referring to all perceptions in a range from 100 MB/s to 1000 MB/s.

Mollwollfumble is referring to vision at 7 megabits per second and 150 megabits per second.

Any estimates for the other perceptions going from using most information to least information.

Vision 7-150 MB/s
Hearing
Feeling
Taste
Smell

Total 1000 MB/s

1) “By far the greatest perceptual information in humans comes from vision”
2) 1MB = 1 Megabyte = 8 Megabit
3) I’m not sure it makes sense to measure human perception in terms of binary bits anyway.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

So say 1-20 MB/s

Seems a big difference from dv’s numbers.

DV is referring to all perceptions in a range from 100 MB/s to 1000 MB/s.

Mollwollfumble is referring to vision at 7 megabits per second and 150 megabits per second.

Any estimates for the other perceptions going from using most information to least information.

Vision 7-150 MB/s
Hearing
Feeling
Taste
Smell

Total 1000 MB/s

1) “By far the greatest perceptual information in humans comes from vision”
2) 1MB = 1 Megabyte = 8 Megabit
3) I’m not sure it makes sense to measure human perception in terms of binary bits anyway.

It doesn’t but we can use it to make a comparison

The Rev Dodgson said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

So say 1-20 MB/s

Seems a big difference from dv’s numbers.

DV is referring to all perceptions in a range from 100 MB/s to 1000 MB/s.

Mollwollfumble is referring to vision at 7 megabits per second and 150 megabits per second.

Any estimates for the other perceptions going from using most information to least information.

Vision 7-150 MB/s
Hearing
Feeling
Taste
Smell

Total 1000 MB/s

1) “By far the greatest perceptual information in humans comes from vision”
2) 1MB = 1 Megabyte = 8 Megabit
3) I’m not sure it makes sense to measure human perception in terms of binary bits anyway.

>3) I’m not sure it makes sense to measure human perception in terms of binary bits anyway.

particularly given a lot of the work of the wetware involves a type of ‘ringing’ in neural structures, which may approximate parallel processing.

The electricochemical information in the human body is analogue in nature, but still has a binary equivalent.