Just because I haven’t had the honour in ages, and it so happens to be the right time…

Dorian heading toward Florida instead of Puerto Rico.

Trump not going to Poland.

——

Can we convince him not to come here?

party_pants said:

Just because I haven’t had the honour in ages, and it so happens to be the right time…

It’s August 31st, not September the 19th.

You’ve been doing the rum rather too hard.

In other news, there’s still no sign of a match for my knot, which means I’ll need to come up with a name for it. That’s a bit exciting…. :-)

party_pants said:

Just because I haven’t had the honour in ages, and it so happens to be the right time…

Dude.

LOL

I’m tired of being August.

Time to be more Septemberley I reckon, even if we are not quite there yet.

The Rev Dodgson said:

I’m tired of being August.

Time to be more Septemberley I reckon, even if we are not quite there yet.

We’re there on the rain gauge.
It’s after 9am so any rain falling from now on goes into September figures.

The Rev Dodgson said:

I’m tired of being August.

Time to be more Septemberley I reckon, even if we are not quite there yet.

Agree, there’s something windy about August.

Tamb said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I’m tired of being August.

Time to be more Septemberley I reckon, even if we are not quite there yet.

We’re there on the rain gauge.
It’s after 9am so any rain falling from now on goes into September figures.

Ballarat has had over 100mm for August.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tamb said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I’m tired of being August.

Time to be more Septemberley I reckon, even if we are not quite there yet.

We’re there on the rain gauge.
It’s after 9am so any rain falling from now on goes into September figures.

Ballarat has had over 100mm for August.

My little patch just had 110mm on Thursday and 80mm yesterday. Wish we could have sent most of that inland.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tamb said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I’m tired of being August.

Time to be more Septemberley I reckon, even if we are not quite there yet.

We’re there on the rain gauge.
It’s after 9am so any rain falling from now on goes into September figures.

Ballarat has had over 100mm for August.

We had 16mm (But it is the Dry)

JudgeMental said:

A fair and well considered response.

JudgeMental said:

Like.

:)

JudgeMental said:

Need to treat this as a serious question.

Are there any headphones that are or can be made cat-proof?

Cables of any sort are bad, i can’t see any obvious way of armouring them. Even encasing them in chain mail wouldn’t suffice because the end of the cables could still be pulled out of their connections.

Some sort of electric fence type arrangement perhaps.

mollwollfumble said:

JudgeMental said:

Need to treat this as a serious question.

Are there any headphones that are or can be made cat-proof?

Cables of any sort are bad, i can’t see any obvious way of armouring them. Even encasing them in chain mail wouldn’t suffice because the end of the cables could still be pulled out of their connections.

Some sort of electric fence type arrangement perhaps.

Certainly is an interesting design challenge.

Morning punters and correctors.
Beautiful September spring morning in the Pearl of the South Specific.

Peak Warming Man said:

Morning punters and correctors.
Beautiful September spring morning in the Pearl of the South Specific.

who started this thread and why did they choose to highlight ITLAP day (also my son’s birthday) ?

Arts said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Morning punters and correctors.
Beautiful September spring morning in the Pearl of the South Specific.

who started this thread and why did they choose to highlight ITLAP day (also my son’s birthday) ?

From: party_pants
ID: 1429623
Subject: Chat – Sept 19

Just because I haven’t had the honour in ages, and it so happens to be the right time…

Best guess is PP meant Sept 2019

Arts said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Morning punters and correctors.
Beautiful September spring morning in the Pearl of the South Specific.

who started this thread and why did they choose to highlight ITLAP day (also my son’s birthday) ?

I suppose because this year it will be Sept 19 19 which is TLAP^2 day.

Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

Just because I haven’t had the honour in ages, and it so happens to be the right time…

It’s August 31st, not September the 19th.

You’ve been doing the rum rather too hard.

I don’t think time has ever skipped 18 days in a row, but you never know.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Arts said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Morning punters and correctors.
Beautiful September spring morning in the Pearl of the South Specific.

who started this thread and why did they choose to highlight ITLAP day (also my son’s birthday) ?

I suppose because this year it will be Sept 19 19 which is TLAP^2 day.

aarrrggghhhh. that will be most excellent.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

Just because I haven’t had the honour in ages, and it so happens to be the right time…

It’s August 31st, not September the 19th.

You’ve been doing the rum rather too hard.

I don’t think time has ever skipped 18 days in a row, but you never know.

well, it has..

The Gregorian calendar was first introduced in 1582, but it took more than 300 years for all the different countries to change from the Julian Calendar. September 1752 in North America was exceptionally short, skipping the 11 days from the third to the 13th.

Worked out what TLAP means now.
I can now face the day knowing that there is nothing gnawing away and annoying me.

Peak Warming Man said:

Worked out what TLAP means now.
I can now face the day knowing that there is nothing gnawing away and annoying me.

I thought you, of all people, would be all over that… fiVe, give PWM his handle back!

mollwollfumble said:

JudgeMental said:

Need to treat this as a serious question.

Are there any headphones that are or can be made cat-proof?

Cables of any sort are bad, i can’t see any obvious way of armouring them. Even encasing them in chain mail wouldn’t suffice because the end of the cables could still be pulled out of their connections.

Some sort of electric fence type arrangement perhaps.

Simple. Get rid of cat.

Arts said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Worked out what TLAP means now.
I can now face the day knowing that there is nothing gnawing away and annoying me.

I thought you, of all people, would be all over that… fiVe, give PWM his handle back!

Even I worked out in less than a minute.

Michael V said:

mollwollfumble said:

JudgeMental said:

Need to treat this as a serious question.

Are there any headphones that are or can be made cat-proof?

Cables of any sort are bad, i can’t see any obvious way of armouring them. Even encasing them in chain mail wouldn’t suffice because the end of the cables could still be pulled out of their connections.

Some sort of electric fence type arrangement perhaps.

Simple. Get rid of cat.

Never had a cat attack cabling here. Sounds like your cat is suffering from some sort of mental distress.

Witty Rejoinder said:

Michael V said:

mollwollfumble said:

Need to treat this as a serious question.

Are there any headphones that are or can be made cat-proof?

Cables of any sort are bad, i can’t see any obvious way of armouring them. Even encasing them in chain mail wouldn’t suffice because the end of the cables could still be pulled out of their connections.

Some sort of electric fence type arrangement perhaps.

Simple. Get rid of cat.

Never had a cat attack cabling here. Sounds like your cat is suffering from some sort of mental distress.

https://www.quora.com/How-can-I-get-my-cat-to-stop-attacking-my-earbuds

https://ask.metafilter.com/53355/How-to-stop-my-cats-chewing-wires

Tau.Neutrino said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Michael V said:

Simple. Get rid of cat.

Never had a cat attack cabling here. Sounds like your cat is suffering from some sort of mental distress.

https://www.quora.com/How-can-I-get-my-cat-to-stop-attacking-my-earbuds

https://ask.metafilter.com/53355/How-to-stop-my-cats-chewing-wires

Brilliant set of answers in that second link.

A whole set of ideas worth trying.

Incredible two-story 8×8 off-road motorhome sleeps 10 people
https://newatlas.com/automotive/multi-story-8×8-off-road-motorhome/

Could one be made to slide out as well as sliding up?

Tau.Neutrino said:

Incredible two-story 8×8 off-road motorhome sleeps 10 people
https://newatlas.com/automotive/multi-story-8×8-off-road-motorhome/

Could one be made to slide out as well as sliding up?

Page not found.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Incredible two-story 8×8 off-road motorhome sleeps 10 people
https://newatlas.com/automotive/multi-story-8×8-off-road-motorhome/

Could one be made to slide out as well as sliding up?

It could have roller canvass that rolls out to become a kitchen tent area to cover the stove.

mollwollfumble said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Incredible two-story 8×8 off-road motorhome sleeps 10 people
https://newatlas.com/automotive/multi-story-8×8-off-road-motorhome/

Could one be made to slide out as well as sliding up?

Page not found.

tTy the home page

https://newatlas.com/

then scroll down a bit for top stories

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Incredible two-story 8×8 off-road motorhome sleeps 10 people
https://newatlas.com/automotive/multi-story-8×8-off-road-motorhome/

Could one be made to slide out as well as sliding up?

It could have roller canvass that rolls out to become a kitchen tent area to cover the stove.

Might as well add in another roil out canvass roof and side for the shower area.

and on the other side another roll out canvass roof and side for outside seating.

I’m making a new Excel spreadsheet for the first time in years. It’s frightening how much I’ve forgotten. Lots of going to Help & asking dumb questions but fortunately it’s all slowly coming back.

Tau.Neutrino said:

mollwollfumble said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Incredible two-story 8×8 off-road motorhome sleeps 10 people
https://newatlas.com/automotive/multi-story-8×8-off-road-motorhome/

Could one be made to slide out as well as sliding up?

Page not found.

tTy the home page

https://newatlas.com/

then scroll down a bit for top stories

Thanks, found it.

Not sure how impressive it is. Just looks like truck to me. A lower part that looks too short and a upper part that is just a top bunk for lots of children.

As for slide out, i don’t see any limit other than wall thickness and total mass.

I’ve been looking into minimum weight beds, for homeless people project. A foam bed 50 mm deep could squeeze down to 10 mm. So with a 3 mm thick floor between each, we could fit in a truck height of 4.3 metres (allow base 1 metre above ground level) we could fit a stack of beds 250 storeys high. And fold out the sides for even more space.

OK, 250 storeys might be a bit excessive, but you get the picture.

mollwollfumble said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

mollwollfumble said:

Page not found.

tTy the home page

https://newatlas.com/

then scroll down a bit for top stories

Thanks, found it.

Not sure how impressive it is. Just looks like truck to me. A lower part that looks too short and a upper part that is just a top bunk for lots of children.

As for slide out, i don’t see any limit other than wall thickness and total mass.

I’ve been looking into minimum weight beds, for homeless people project. A foam bed 50 mm deep could squeeze down to 10 mm. So with a 3 mm thick floor between each, we could fit in a truck height of 4.3 metres (allow base 1 metre above ground level) we could fit a stack of beds 250 storeys high. And fold out the sides for even more space.

OK, 250 storeys might be a bit excessive, but you get the picture.

I like the inbuilt kitchen and bathroom, I would like a design for a kitchen area that folds down into the floor and both sides for extra space when needed.

Slide or fold out canvass roof on each side for outside seat area.

Tau.Neutrino said:

mollwollfumble said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

tTy the home page

https://newatlas.com/

then scroll down a bit for top stories

Thanks, found it.

Not sure how impressive it is. Just looks like truck to me. A lower part that looks too short and a upper part that is just a top bunk for lots of children.

As for slide out, i don’t see any limit other than wall thickness and total mass.

I’ve been looking into minimum weight beds, for homeless people project. A foam bed 50 mm deep could squeeze down to 10 mm. So with a 3 mm thick floor between each, we could fit in a truck height of 4.3 metres (allow base 1 metre above ground level) we could fit a stack of beds 250 storeys high. And fold out the sides for even more space.

OK, 250 storeys might be a bit excessive, but you get the picture.

I like the inbuilt kitchen and bathroom, I would like a design for a kitchen area that folds down into the floor and both sides for extra space when needed.

Slide or fold out canvass roof on each side for outside seat area.

Shipping containers could be cut smaller in succession to a level of around three or four?

I liked all of those SLRV designs.

But I like tinkering around.

It seems like direct links on New Atlas are not working atm.

They just did an upgrade of their website, and a review of what they publish it seems.

Tamb said:

I’m making a new Excel spreadsheet for the first time in years. It’s frightening how much I’ve forgotten. Lots of going to Help & asking dumb questions but fortunately it’s all slowly coming back.

Feel free to ask if you get stuck.

I love dumb Excel questions, I mean there’s no such thing as a dumb question.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6tnj7IEI0E

Tommy Seebach Apache HQ (Original)

The Rev Dodgson said:

Tamb said:

I’m making a new Excel spreadsheet for the first time in years. It’s frightening how much I’ve forgotten. Lots of going to Help & asking dumb questions but fortunately it’s all slowly coming back.

Feel free to ask if you get stuck.

I love dumb Excel questions, I mean there’s no such thing as a dumb question.

I will thanks Rev. For instance I’d forgotten the syntax for summing a column of figures. When It came back to me I thought, duh Tamb how could you forget something so basic & simple.

Went for a walk down ‘Fairy Way’. The rock hunters were out in force. Met the local state member, Chris Whiting. Mini Me found a winning rock: the prize is a surprise, we have to present the rock at the Zesty Lemon Cafe to find out what we’ve won.

Religious freedom draft bill may prove to be Scott Morrison’s greatest test
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-31/religious-freedom-draft-bill-may-prove-morrisons-toughest-test/11466242

Folau would have a case

It says you can’t be seen to discriminate against someone merely for expressing a genuinely held belief.

In the ubiquitous case of Israel Folau (who was sacked by the Australian Rugby Union for saying on social media that drunks, homosexuals, fornicators and others would go to hell), according to Mr Porter, the bill would “give someone in Israel Folau’s circumstance an avenue for complaint” he told 7.30 on Thursday.

“That complaint would look like this: My employer puts a condition upon me which has the effect of restricting my ability to express my religious beliefs in my spare time.

===

Didn’t Folau express his human rights abuse ¹ on Air at a Game which would be on employer time wouldn’t it?

1 in the context of his religious beliefs.

Divine Angel said:

Went for a walk down ‘Fairy Way’. The rock hunters were out in force. Met the local state member, Chris Whiting. Mini Me found a winning rock: the prize is a surprise, we have to present the rock at the Zesty Lemon Cafe to find out what we’ve won.

Well done Mini Me.

I hope the prize isn’t just a lemon.

Bubblecar said:

Divine Angel said:

Went for a walk down ‘Fairy Way’. The rock hunters were out in force. Met the local state member, Chris Whiting. Mini Me found a winning rock: the prize is a surprise, we have to present the rock at the Zesty Lemon Cafe to find out what we’ve won.

Well done Mini Me.

I hope the prize isn’t just a lemon.

Lemon peel scrapings.

Tamb said:

Bubblecar said:

Divine Angel said:

Went for a walk down ‘Fairy Way’. The rock hunters were out in force. Met the local state member, Chris Whiting. Mini Me found a winning rock: the prize is a surprise, we have to present the rock at the Zesty Lemon Cafe to find out what we’ve won.

Well done Mini Me.

I hope the prize isn’t just a lemon.

Lemon peel scrapings.

Probably a sweet sugary drink made with artificial flavours and colours, that you would normally avoid giving to your kid.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Religious freedom draft bill may prove to be Scott Morrison’s greatest test
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-31/religious-freedom-draft-bill-may-prove-morrisons-toughest-test/11466242

Folau would have a case

It says you can’t be seen to discriminate against someone merely for expressing a genuinely held belief.

In the ubiquitous case of Israel Folau (who was sacked by the Australian Rugby Union for saying on social media that drunks, homosexuals, fornicators and others would go to hell), according to Mr Porter, the bill would “give someone in Israel Folau’s circumstance an avenue for complaint” he told 7.30 on Thursday.

“That complaint would look like this: My employer puts a condition upon me which has the effect of restricting my ability to express my religious beliefs in my spare time.

===

Didn’t Folau express his human rights abuse ¹ on Air at a Game which would be on employer time wouldn’t it?

1 in the context of his religious beliefs.

If you object to the interpretation of their religious book by a group of religious believers, then you should campaign for the statement of that interpretation to be made illegal.

So long as it is legal, then anybody should be entitled to express that interpretation without getting sacked, unless such a statement directly affects their employment duties.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Religious freedom draft bill may prove to be Scott Morrison’s greatest test
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-31/religious-freedom-draft-bill-may-prove-morrisons-toughest-test/11466242

Folau would have a case

It says you can’t be seen to discriminate against someone merely for expressing a genuinely held belief.

In the ubiquitous case of Israel Folau (who was sacked by the Australian Rugby Union for saying on social media that drunks, homosexuals, fornicators and others would go to hell), according to Mr Porter, the bill would “give someone in Israel Folau’s circumstance an avenue for complaint” he told 7.30 on Thursday.

“That complaint would look like this: My employer puts a condition upon me which has the effect of restricting my ability to express my religious beliefs in my spare time.

===

Didn’t Folau express his human rights abuse ¹ on Air at a Game which would be on employer time wouldn’t it?

1 in the context of his religious beliefs.

It is a complete waste of time. “Genuinely held beliefs” are the least important thing in the overall scheme of things. Morrison and his cronies should just get on with ruining what’s left of the country and leave this one well alone.

party_pants said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Religious freedom draft bill may prove to be Scott Morrison’s greatest test
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-31/religious-freedom-draft-bill-may-prove-morrisons-toughest-test/11466242

Folau would have a case

It says you can’t be seen to discriminate against someone merely for expressing a genuinely held belief.

In the ubiquitous case of Israel Folau (who was sacked by the Australian Rugby Union for saying on social media that drunks, homosexuals, fornicators and others would go to hell), according to Mr Porter, the bill would “give someone in Israel Folau’s circumstance an avenue for complaint” he told 7.30 on Thursday.

“That complaint would look like this: My employer puts a condition upon me which has the effect of restricting my ability to express my religious beliefs in my spare time.

===

Didn’t Folau express his human rights abuse ¹ on Air at a Game which would be on employer time wouldn’t it?

1 in the context of his religious beliefs.

It is a complete waste of time. “Genuinely held beliefs” are the least important thing in the overall scheme of things. Morrison and his cronies should just get on with ruining what’s left of the country and leave this one well alone.

I don’t know about that.

Some of my “Genuinely held beliefs” are pretty important to me, and I would like my right to express them enshrined in the law.

The Rev Dodgson said:

party_pants said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Religious freedom draft bill may prove to be Scott Morrison’s greatest test
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-31/religious-freedom-draft-bill-may-prove-morrisons-toughest-test/11466242

Folau would have a case

It says you can’t be seen to discriminate against someone merely for expressing a genuinely held belief.

In the ubiquitous case of Israel Folau (who was sacked by the Australian Rugby Union for saying on social media that drunks, homosexuals, fornicators and others would go to hell), according to Mr Porter, the bill would “give someone in Israel Folau’s circumstance an avenue for complaint” he told 7.30 on Thursday.

“That complaint would look like this: My employer puts a condition upon me which has the effect of restricting my ability to express my religious beliefs in my spare time.

===

Didn’t Folau express his human rights abuse ¹ on Air at a Game which would be on employer time wouldn’t it?

1 in the context of his religious beliefs.

It is a complete waste of time. “Genuinely held beliefs” are the least important thing in the overall scheme of things. Morrison and his cronies should just get on with ruining what’s left of the country and leave this one well alone.

I don’t know about that.

Some of my “Genuinely held beliefs” are pretty important to me, and I would like my right to express them enshrined in the law.

I’m concerned about the blasphemy part of the law. Over time that could come to mean anything not totally in line of a religion’s teachings could be illegal.

The Rev Dodgson said:

party_pants said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Religious freedom draft bill may prove to be Scott Morrison’s greatest test
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-31/religious-freedom-draft-bill-may-prove-morrisons-toughest-test/11466242

Folau would have a case

It says you can’t be seen to discriminate against someone merely for expressing a genuinely held belief.

In the ubiquitous case of Israel Folau (who was sacked by the Australian Rugby Union for saying on social media that drunks, homosexuals, fornicators and others would go to hell), according to Mr Porter, the bill would “give someone in Israel Folau’s circumstance an avenue for complaint” he told 7.30 on Thursday.

“That complaint would look like this: My employer puts a condition upon me which has the effect of restricting my ability to express my religious beliefs in my spare time.

===

Didn’t Folau express his human rights abuse ¹ on Air at a Game which would be on employer time wouldn’t it?

1 in the context of his religious beliefs.

It is a complete waste of time. “Genuinely held beliefs” are the least important thing in the overall scheme of things. Morrison and his cronies should just get on with ruining what’s left of the country and leave this one well alone.

I don’t know about that.

Some of my “Genuinely held beliefs” are pretty important to me, and I would like my right to express them enshrined in the law.

Why? Why is it important for you to have beliefs in things that are unknown or unkowable? Why is it important for you to burden the rest of the world by expressing them?

Tamb said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

party_pants said:

It is a complete waste of time. “Genuinely held beliefs” are the least important thing in the overall scheme of things. Morrison and his cronies should just get on with ruining what’s left of the country and leave this one well alone.

I don’t know about that.

Some of my “Genuinely held beliefs” are pretty important to me, and I would like my right to express them enshrined in the law.

I’m concerned about the blasphemy part of the law. Over time that could come to mean anything not totally in line of a religion’s teachings could be illegal.

I don’t care what they do, it’s none of my business. I keep my head down and stay out of trouble.

If a priest or rugby player walks by, I take off my hat and say “Bless you my lord”, and stare at my shoes. Then I plod on my way.

Greetings, Tomorrow People

dv said:

Greetings, Tomorrow People

I’m more yesterday’s hero.

Bubblecar said:

Tamb said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I don’t know about that.

Some of my “Genuinely held beliefs” are pretty important to me, and I would like my right to express them enshrined in the law.

I’m concerned about the blasphemy part of the law. Over time that could come to mean anything not totally in line of a religion’s teachings could be illegal.

I don’t care what they do, it’s none of my business. I keep my head down and stay out of trouble.

If a priest or rugby player walks by, I take off my hat and say “Bless you my lord”, and stare at my shoes. Then I plod on my way.

What will the do when the JWs come a knocking?

party_pants said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

party_pants said:

It is a complete waste of time. “Genuinely held beliefs” are the least important thing in the overall scheme of things. Morrison and his cronies should just get on with ruining what’s left of the country and leave this one well alone.

I don’t know about that.

Some of my “Genuinely held beliefs” are pretty important to me, and I would like my right to express them enshrined in the law.

Why? Why is it important for you to have beliefs in things that are unknown or unkowable? Why is it important for you to burden the rest of the world by expressing them?

or worse still, belief in things that are demonstrably false.

Tamb said:

Bubblecar said:

Tamb said:

I’m concerned about the blasphemy part of the law. Over time that could come to mean anything not totally in line of a religion’s teachings could be illegal.

I don’t care what they do, it’s none of my business. I keep my head down and stay out of trouble.

If a priest or rugby player walks by, I take off my hat and say “Bless you my lord”, and stare at my shoes. Then I plod on my way.

What will the do when the JWs come a knocking?

I’ll beg forgiveness and hand over what little money I have.

Tamb said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

party_pants said:

It is a complete waste of time. “Genuinely held beliefs” are the least important thing in the overall scheme of things. Morrison and his cronies should just get on with ruining what’s left of the country and leave this one well alone.

I don’t know about that.

Some of my “Genuinely held beliefs” are pretty important to me, and I would like my right to express them enshrined in the law.

I’m concerned about the blasphemy part of the law. Over time that could come to mean anything not totally in line of a religion’s teachings could be illegal.

I hadn’t heard about that.

To my mind a law that is intended to protect religious freedom must allow the expression of views that are contrary to some religions, so it should not prohibit blasphemy; it should protect the right to blaspheme, and prohibit anyone from threatening violence against blasphemers.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Tamb said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I don’t know about that.

Some of my “Genuinely held beliefs” are pretty important to me, and I would like my right to express them enshrined in the law.

I’m concerned about the blasphemy part of the law. Over time that could come to mean anything not totally in line of a religion’s teachings could be illegal.

I hadn’t heard about that.

To my mind a law that is intended to protect religious freedom must allow the expression of views that are contrary to some religions, so it should not prohibit blasphemy; it should protect the right to blaspheme, and prohibit anyone from threatening violence against blasphemers.

It might be just media scare but there was talk of blasphemy laws.

party_pants said:

party_pants said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I don’t know about that.

Some of my “Genuinely held beliefs” are pretty important to me, and I would like my right to express them enshrined in the law.

Why? Why is it important for you to have beliefs in things that are unknown or unkowable? Why is it important for you to burden the rest of the world by expressing them?

or worse still, belief in things that are demonstrably false.

I didn’t say that it was important for me to have beliefs in things that are unknown or unknowable, or demonstrably false.

It is important to me that I should be able to express my opinions on things that are known or knowable.

Tamb said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Tamb said:

I’m concerned about the blasphemy part of the law. Over time that could come to mean anything not totally in line of a religion’s teachings could be illegal.

I hadn’t heard about that.

To my mind a law that is intended to protect religious freedom must allow the expression of views that are contrary to some religions, so it should not prohibit blasphemy; it should protect the right to blaspheme, and prohibit anyone from threatening violence against blasphemers.

It might be just media scare but there was talk of blasphemy laws.

Oh god. Fuck that.

sarahs mum said:

Tamb said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I hadn’t heard about that.

To my mind a law that is intended to protect religious freedom must allow the expression of views that are contrary to some religions, so it should not prohibit blasphemy; it should protect the right to blaspheme, and prohibit anyone from threatening violence against blasphemers.

It might be just media scare but there was talk of blasphemy laws.

Oh god. Fuck that.

LOL

Australia to improve East Timorese Internet and naval base

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/australianz/australia-to-improve-east-timorese-internet-and-naval-base

I was able to brush off the suddenly acquired hawking radiation.

Safe now.

The Rev Dodgson said:

party_pants said:

party_pants said:

Why? Why is it important for you to have beliefs in things that are unknown or unkowable? Why is it important for you to burden the rest of the world by expressing them?

or worse still, belief in things that are demonstrably false.

I didn’t say that it was important for me to have beliefs in things that are unknown or unknowable, or demonstrably false.

It is important to me that I should be able to express my opinions on things that are known or knowable.

They are called facts, not beliefs. You’re fine to go ahead and express them.

sarahs mum said:

Australia to improve East Timorese Internet and naval base

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/australianz/australia-to-improve-east-timorese-internet-and-naval-base

Well that’s nice of us.

sarahs mum said:

Australia to improve East Timorese Internet and naval base

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/australianz/australia-to-improve-east-timorese-internet-and-naval-base

pffft we just need bugs with longer range.

https://mymodernmet.com/bird-photographer-of-the-year-2019/

some nice shots, except the pheasants, they’re revolting.

SINGING EVERYTHING I SEE
Malinda

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzlaoEFWy2Q

—-

Well that was good for my brain.

JudgeMental said:

https://mymodernmet.com/bird-photographer-of-the-year-2019/

some nice shots, except the pheasants, they’re revolting.

They really should pixelate mating dances. Kids could have seen that article.

party_pants said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

party_pants said:

or worse still, belief in things that are demonstrably false.

I didn’t say that it was important for me to have beliefs in things that are unknown or unknowable, or demonstrably false.

It is important to me that I should be able to express my opinions on things that are known or knowable.

They are called facts, not beliefs. You’re fine to go ahead and express them.

The trouble is, what is a fact is a matter of opinion, and opinions differ.

JudgeMental said:

https://mymodernmet.com/bird-photographer-of-the-year-2019/

some nice shots, except the pheasants, they’re revolting.

I reckon Trans could get a gong for some of his birdies.

sarahs mum said:

Tamb said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I hadn’t heard about that.

To my mind a law that is intended to protect religious freedom must allow the expression of views that are contrary to some religions, so it should not prohibit blasphemy; it should protect the right to blaspheme, and prohibit anyone from threatening violence against blasphemers.

It might be just media scare but there was talk of blasphemy laws.

Oh god. Fuck that.

That’s the spirit!

The Rev Dodgson said:

party_pants said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I didn’t say that it was important for me to have beliefs in things that are unknown or unknowable, or demonstrably false.

It is important to me that I should be able to express my opinions on things that are known or knowable.

They are called facts, not beliefs. You’re fine to go ahead and express them.

The trouble is, what is a fact is a matter of opinion, and opinions differ.

I think there is an enormous gulf between them. Saying that drunkards and idolaters are more likely to die of liver cancer is one thing, saying that they are going to hell as some divine punishment is very different. There is no need to protect the latter IMHO.

The Rev Dodgson said:

party_pants said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I didn’t say that it was important for me to have beliefs in things that are unknown or unknowable, or demonstrably false.

It is important to me that I should be able to express my opinions on things that are known or knowable.

They are called facts, not beliefs. You’re fine to go ahead and express them.

The trouble is, what is a fact is a matter of opinion, and opinions differ.

A fact is surely a reality and not able to be misinterpreted. A combination of facts can be misinterpreted, although the facts on their own cannot.

party_pants said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

party_pants said:

They are called facts, not beliefs. You’re fine to go ahead and express them.

The trouble is, what is a fact is a matter of opinion, and opinions differ.

I think there is an enormous gulf between them. Saying that drunkards and idolaters are more likely to die of liver cancer is one thing, saying that they are going to hell as some divine punishment is very different. There is no need to protect the latter IMHO.

But you have just picked a couple of examples from the spectrum of things that some people believe to be facts.

The default position should be that people are free to express their opinions, unless these opinions have been legally found to be dangerous or harmful t others, and that determination should be done by the legal system, not politicians, not religious leaders, and certainly not commercial organisations.

Peak Warming Man said:

JudgeMental said:

https://mymodernmet.com/bird-photographer-of-the-year-2019/

some nice shots, except the pheasants, they’re revolting.

I reckon Trans could get a gong for some of his birdies.

Another bird photograph of the year website is https://www.boredpanda.com/bird-photographer-of-the-year-2019-bpoty/

I actually downloaded the pheasants, for future jigsaw use. They’re really sharp.

>I reckon Trans could get a gong for some of his birdies.

some might qualify

~800+

https://www.flickr.com/photos/164337984@N08/

Rightio then, catch youse on the morrow.

Paladin asked Home Affairs about ‘unforeseen bribes’
Paladin executives asked the Home Affairs department whether it should “help out” in the payment of “unforeseen bribes” and “corrupt levels of fees” during negotiations over its controversial refugee services contract on Manus Island.
The security firm raised the issue in a letter dated September 6, 2017 that was released to the Senate this week among more than 2700 pages of documents.
Paladin flagged it had an issue with a contract clause stipulating the service provider would have to pay any fees and costs “unless the department agrees otherwise”. These would include transfer or upgrade fees “that may be required to obtain an authorisation”.
Ahead of a scheduled meeting with the offshore immigration detention team at what was then the Department of Immigration, Paladin asked; “Is this reasonable?”
“What about unforeseen bribes/excessive and corrupt levels of fees? Might there be cases where the Dept should be OBLIGATED to help out or ease up on its expectations?” Paladin wrote in its letter.

https://www.afr.com/policy/foreign-affairs/paladin-asked-home-affairs-about-unforeseen-bribes-20190830-p52mct

LOL

dv said:

Paladin asked Home Affairs about ‘unforeseen bribes’
Paladin executives asked the Home Affairs department whether it should “help out” in the payment of “unforeseen bribes” and “corrupt levels of fees” during negotiations over its controversial refugee services contract on Manus Island.
The security firm raised the issue in a letter dated September 6, 2017 that was released to the Senate this week among more than 2700 pages of documents.
Paladin flagged it had an issue with a contract clause stipulating the service provider would have to pay any fees and costs “unless the department agrees otherwise”. These would include transfer or upgrade fees “that may be required to obtain an authorisation”.
Ahead of a scheduled meeting with the offshore immigration detention team at what was then the Department of Immigration, Paladin asked; “Is this reasonable?”
“What about unforeseen bribes/excessive and corrupt levels of fees? Might there be cases where the Dept should be OBLIGATED to help out or ease up on its expectations?” Paladin wrote in its letter.

https://www.afr.com/policy/foreign-affairs/paladin-asked-home-affairs-about-unforeseen-bribes-20190830-p52mct

:(

sarahs mum said:

dv said:

Paladin asked Home Affairs about ‘unforeseen bribes’
Paladin executives asked the Home Affairs department whether it should “help out” in the payment of “unforeseen bribes” and “corrupt levels of fees” during negotiations over its controversial refugee services contract on Manus Island.
The security firm raised the issue in a letter dated September 6, 2017 that was released to the Senate this week among more than 2700 pages of documents.
Paladin flagged it had an issue with a contract clause stipulating the service provider would have to pay any fees and costs “unless the department agrees otherwise”. These would include transfer or upgrade fees “that may be required to obtain an authorisation”.
Ahead of a scheduled meeting with the offshore immigration detention team at what was then the Department of Immigration, Paladin asked; “Is this reasonable?”
“What about unforeseen bribes/excessive and corrupt levels of fees? Might there be cases where the Dept should be OBLIGATED to help out or ease up on its expectations?” Paladin wrote in its letter.

https://www.afr.com/policy/foreign-affairs/paladin-asked-home-affairs-about-unforeseen-bribes-20190830-p52mct

:(

I can’t think of one thing that would be better to spend my taxes on

dv said:

sarahs mum said:

dv said:

Paladin asked Home Affairs about ‘unforeseen bribes’
Paladin executives asked the Home Affairs department whether it should “help out” in the payment of “unforeseen bribes” and “corrupt levels of fees” during negotiations over its controversial refugee services contract on Manus Island.
The security firm raised the issue in a letter dated September 6, 2017 that was released to the Senate this week among more than 2700 pages of documents.
Paladin flagged it had an issue with a contract clause stipulating the service provider would have to pay any fees and costs “unless the department agrees otherwise”. These would include transfer or upgrade fees “that may be required to obtain an authorisation”.
Ahead of a scheduled meeting with the offshore immigration detention team at what was then the Department of Immigration, Paladin asked; “Is this reasonable?”
“What about unforeseen bribes/excessive and corrupt levels of fees? Might there be cases where the Dept should be OBLIGATED to help out or ease up on its expectations?” Paladin wrote in its letter.

https://www.afr.com/policy/foreign-affairs/paladin-asked-home-affairs-about-unforeseen-bribes-20190830-p52mct

:(

I can’t think of one thing that would be better to spend my taxes on

I think you should check out Franklin while you are down here. you would make a good independent for Franklin.

Pinch and a pinch for the first day of the month, no returns.

Happy father’s day to all the dads!

And Mr Mutant’s grandpa died last night.

I think that’s everything covered.

Good morning Holidayers. Seven degrees and getting light. Light rain happening intermittently here over the past few hours. I went to bed early, read for quite a while and then slept well. This is Good.

I’m sorry about Mr Mutant’s grandpa. How old was he? We have set my Dad’s funeral for Friday afternoon.

DA – there is another parcel on the way to Cecily with the last lonely ooshie in it.

buffy said:

Good morning Holidayers. Seven degrees and getting light. Light rain happening intermittently here over the past few hours. I went to bed early, read for quite a while and then slept well. This is Good.

I’m sorry about Mr Mutant’s grandpa. How old was he? We have set my Dad’s funeral for Friday afternoon.

DA – there is another parcel on the way to Cecily with the last lonely ooshie in it.

About 90, I’m not sure exactly. He had a fall and wasn’t found for a couple of days.

I’m sorry about your dad, I didn’t hear he’d passed 😞

Thanks for the last ooshie.

Happy Father’s Day and my sympathies to those who’ve lost fathers and grandfathers in recent times.

Massive day of housework planned this end which I’d liked to get straight into, but unfortunately I’ve run out of toilet rolls so first I’ll have to shower and visit the shop.

>“Raw fresh nuts are the healthiest,” added Dr Mohammadifard. “Nuts should be fresh because unsaturated fats can become oxidised in stale nuts, making them harmful. You can tell if nuts are rancid by their paint-like smell and bitter or sour taste.”

https://scitechdaily.com/new-study-suggests-eat-nuts-for-a-lower-risk-of-fatal-heart-attack-and-stroke/

That’s the problem, most nuts aren’t very fresh. They’re sold in plastic bags and the stock turnover in our IGA isn’t very rapid. I buy nuts regularly but the hazelnuts in particular often taste a bit stale.

Bubblecar said:

Happy Father’s Day and my sympathies to those who’ve lost fathers and grandfathers in recent times.

Massive day of housework planned this end which I’d liked to get straight into, but unfortunately I’ve run out of toilet rolls so first I’ll have to shower and visit the shop.

Same here.

(other than the massive housework bit)

How do you stop Android phones beeping every time an e-mail comes in, or for no apparent reason at all?

Divine Angel said:

Pinch and a pinch for the first day of the month, no returns.

Happy father’s day to all the dads!

And Mr Mutant’s grandpa died last night.

I think that’s everything covered.

Condolences, DA.

The Rev Dodgson said:

How do you stop Android phones beeping every time an e-mail comes in, or for no apparent reason at all?

This might help.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBESbmyD08k

The Rev Dodgson said:

How do you stop Android phones beeping every time an e-mail comes in, or for no apparent reason at all?

Go to settings – look for something called sound/notifications or similar, then find the email notification part…Good luck.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Bubblecar said:

Happy Father’s Day and my sympathies to those who’ve lost fathers and grandfathers in recent times.

Massive day of housework planned this end which I’d liked to get straight into, but unfortunately I’ve run out of toilet rolls so first I’ll have to shower and visit the shop.

Same here.

(other than the massive housework bit)

Washing done & on the line. Dressed & ready to go into town to see the Targa cars & crews.
Chat with them about rallying & old v new cars.

buffy said:

Good morning Holidayers. Seven degrees and getting light. Light rain happening intermittently here over the past few hours. I went to bed early, read for quite a while and then slept well. This is Good.

I’m sorry about Mr Mutant’s grandpa. How old was he? We have set my Dad’s funeral for Friday afternoon.

DA – there is another parcel on the way to Cecily with the last lonely ooshie in it.

Condolences.

:(

Sad times all round.

Spiny Norman said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

How do you stop Android phones beeping every time an e-mail comes in, or for no apparent reason at all?

This might help.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBESbmyD08k

I had a physics lecturer with a voice like that. 100% soporific.

Michael V said:

buffy said:

Good morning Holidayers. Seven degrees and getting light. Light rain happening intermittently here over the past few hours. I went to bed early, read for quite a while and then slept well. This is Good.

I’m sorry about Mr Mutant’s grandpa. How old was he? We have set my Dad’s funeral for Friday afternoon.

DA – there is another parcel on the way to Cecily with the last lonely ooshie in it.

Condolences.

:(

Sad times all round.

From me too. :(

poikilotherm said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

How do you stop Android phones beeping every time an e-mail comes in, or for no apparent reason at all?

Go to settings – look for something called sound/notifications or similar, then find the email notification part…Good luck.

Thanks, dead easy. Now everything switched off other than messages.

I guess I could have worked that out for myself :)

Thanks to SN too.

The Rev Dodgson said:

poikilotherm said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

How do you stop Android phones beeping every time an e-mail comes in, or for no apparent reason at all?

Go to settings – look for something called sound/notifications or similar, then find the email notification part…Good luck.

Thanks, dead easy. Now everything switched off other than messages.

I guess I could have worked that out for myself :)

Thanks to SN too.

No wukkas.

The Rev Dodgson said:

How do you stop Android phones beeping every time an e-mail comes in, or for no apparent reason at all?

Have a look around in settings. I’d imagine there’d be something in there.

poikilotherm said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

How do you stop Android phones beeping every time an e-mail comes in, or for no apparent reason at all?

Go to settings – look for something called sound/notifications or similar, then find the email notification part…Good luck.

Hey thanks.

Tamb said:

Michael V said:

buffy said:

Good morning Holidayers. Seven degrees and getting light. Light rain happening intermittently here over the past few hours. I went to bed early, read for quite a while and then slept well. This is Good.

I’m sorry about Mr Mutant’s grandpa. How old was he? We have set my Dad’s funeral for Friday afternoon.

DA – there is another parcel on the way to Cecily with the last lonely ooshie in it.

Condolences.

:(

Sad times all round.

From me too. :(

Ditto

Just had a spam e-mail (saying click here to reset your password) from the e-mail address:
saipo_bahari@nuclearmalaysia.gov.my

It really puzzles me how these spamsters pick their e-mail addresses.

Michael V said:

buffy said:

Good morning Holidayers. Seven degrees and getting light. Light rain happening intermittently here over the past few hours. I went to bed early, read for quite a while and then slept well. This is Good.

I’m sorry about Mr Mutant’s grandpa. How old was he? We have set my Dad’s funeral for Friday afternoon.

DA – there is another parcel on the way to Cecily with the last lonely ooshie in it.

Condolences.

:(

Sad times all round.

+1

The Rev Dodgson said:

Just had a spam e-mail (saying click here to reset your password) from the e-mail address:
saipo_bahari@nuclearmalaysia.gov.my

It really puzzles me how these spamsters pick their e-mail addresses.

In this case, probably look for a large organisation with lax security for an easy hack.

Been another mass shooting in Texas

Morning Pilgrims, they are saying a gunman in the US is still at large, how large we just don’t know

Size differences between various species of Dimetrodon.

People often think of these as dinosaurs but they were more closely related to mammals, and had all died out long before the first dinosaurs appeared.

OK breakfast done, get in that shower.

Bubblecar said:

Size differences between various species of Dimetrodon.

People often think of these as dinosaurs but they were more closely related to mammals, and had all died out long before the first dinosaurs appeared.

Don’t be fooled by those smiles.
They are the cold blooded smile of a killer.

Peak Warming Man said:

Bubblecar said:

Size differences between various species of Dimetrodon.

People often think of these as dinosaurs but they were more closely related to mammals, and had all died out long before the first dinosaurs appeared.

Don’t be fooled by those smiles.
They are the cold blooded smile of a killer.

You’re thinking of the smilodonts

dv said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Bubblecar said:

Size differences between various species of Dimetrodon.

People often think of these as dinosaurs but they were more closely related to mammals, and had all died out long before the first dinosaurs appeared.

Don’t be fooled by those smiles.
They are the cold blooded smile of a killer.

You’re thinking of the smilodonts

chuckle

Bubblecar said:

Size differences between various species of Dimetrodon.

People often think of these as dinosaurs but they were more closely related to mammals, and had all died out long before the first dinosaurs appeared.

What killed them off – wiki gives no hints.

sibeen said:

Bubblecar said:

Size differences between various species of Dimetrodon.

People often think of these as dinosaurs but they were more closely related to mammals, and had all died out long before the first dinosaurs appeared.

What killed them off – wiki gives no hints.

the permian extinction 245 million years ago.

JudgeMental said:

sibeen said:

Bubblecar said:

Size differences between various species of Dimetrodon.

People often think of these as dinosaurs but they were more closely related to mammals, and had all died out long before the first dinosaurs appeared.

What killed them off – wiki gives no hints.

the permian extinction 245 million years ago.

Ahh, yes. Forgot about that one.

sibeen said:

JudgeMental said:

sibeen said:

What killed them off – wiki gives no hints.

the permian extinction 245 million years ago.

Ahh, yes. Forgot about that one.

well, it was a long time ago.

The local cafe had some problems with children running wild yesterday, being ignored by their parents. I’m going to give Amanda a copy of this:

Bubblecar said:

Size differences between various species of Dimetrodon.

People often think of these as dinosaurs but they were more closely related to mammals, and had all died out long before the first dinosaurs appeared.

Ooh, that’s smaller than i would have expected.

It used to be said that the sail was for rapid solar heating so served as an intermediate state between the cold-blooded archosaurs and the warm blooded mammals.

That may still be true, but it was said when dinosaurs were still thought to be cold-blooded.

First known from a specimen described by Cope in 1878. That makes it an early discovery, doesn’t it?

Sorry to hear about your father, buffy.

Peak Warming Man said:

Morning Pilgrims, they are saying a gunman in the US is still at large, how large we just don’t know

Only one?

Peak Warming Man said:

Morning Pilgrims, they are saying a gunman in the US is still at large, how large we just don’t know

I have read that there was only one shooter, but they thought initially that there were two. They have confirmed the death of the one shooter.

Hey sibeen, happy birthday to your missus. It’s Mrs Rule’s birfday too.

mollwollfumble said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Morning Pilgrims, they are saying a gunman in the US is still at large, how large we just don’t know

Only one?

Only one ‘active’ shooter.

They know that there’s thousands, possibly tens of thousand of Americans out there who will, sooner of later, go nuts with their private arsenals and shoot dozens or scores of people who they don’t know or have any reason to shoot.

It’s just that none of those people have been ‘activated’. Yet.

Divine Angel said:

Hey sibeen, happy birthday to your missus. It’s Mrs Rule’s birfday too.

It’s a bloody pain. I was going to take the family out for brunch but as it is also father’s day everywhere is booked out. I’m just about to head out to pick up elder sprog and then she and younger sprog are apparently going to do a cook up.

sibeen said:

Divine Angel said:

Hey sibeen, happy birthday to your missus. It’s Mrs Rule’s birfday too.

It’s a bloody pain. I was going to take the family out for brunch but as it is also father’s day everywhere is booked out. I’m just about to head out to pick up elder sprog and then she and younger sprog are apparently going to do a cook up.

woot, so you and the missus are going to be spoiled.

JudgeMental said:

sibeen said:

Divine Angel said:

Hey sibeen, happy birthday to your missus. It’s Mrs Rule’s birfday too.

It’s a bloody pain. I was going to take the family out for brunch but as it is also father’s day everywhere is booked out. I’m just about to head out to pick up elder sprog and then she and younger sprog are apparently going to do a cook up.

woot, so you and the missus are going to be spoiled.

or the food will be :)

few of, from morn walk..

breakfast here going cold, get to that

Anyone know where I can read good background info on the removal of Native Title for the Adani project?

Read the Grauniad article.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Anyone know where I can read good background info on the removal of Native Title for the Adani project?

Read the Grauniad article.

Andrew Bolt had an article on that.
I’ll see if I can find it for you.

My daughter surprised me with a Father’s Day breakfast cruise, which is nice.

Peak Warming Man said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Anyone know where I can read good background info on the removal of Native Title for the Adani project?

Read the Grauniad article.

Andrew Bolt had an article on that.
I’ll see if I can find it for you.

I could take a weighted average I suppose.

sibeen said:

Sorry to hear about your father, buffy.

Thank you. He was entirely ready. And he followed the book. Their wedding anniversary is today. (Near a significant date). I told him on Monday that Mum was well settled and happy, that he could go when he was ready, and I said goodbye. He opened his eyes when I spoke, but he was not speaking himself at that stage. I told him my Hobart brother would visit him “tomorrow”. Which as it happened, was Friday morning, not the Tuesday as we had thought. He died on Friday night around 10.00pm.

Peak Warming Man said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Anyone know where I can read good background info on the removal of Native Title for the Adani project?

Read the Grauniad article.

Andrew Bolt had an article on that.
I’ll see if I can find it for you.

This the one?
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/andrew-bolt/greens-pay-aboriginal-objectors-to-mine/news-story/3183a2fcd5a88b6aedf7a0b4c233c3d8

Its from 4 years ago.

Oh, and DA…I love the “Germinate!” sticker. I’ve been wondering where to put it. I’m going to put it inside (so it doesn’t die too quickly with the weather) my new little greenhouse. Which I will now put together so I can get the seeds started for Spring.

buffy said:

sibeen said:

Sorry to hear about your father, buffy.

Thank you. He was entirely ready. And he followed the book. Their wedding anniversary is today. (Near a significant date). I told him on Monday that Mum was well settled and happy, that he could go when he was ready, and I said goodbye. He opened his eyes when I spoke, but he was not speaking himself at that stage. I told him my Hobart brother would visit him “tomorrow”. Which as it happened, was Friday morning, not the Tuesday as we had thought. He died on Friday night around 10.00pm.

condolences. good he was ready to go.

buffy said:

sibeen said:

Sorry to hear about your father, buffy.

Thank you. He was entirely ready. And he followed the book. Their wedding anniversary is today. (Near a significant date). I told him on Monday that Mum was well settled and happy, that he could go when he was ready, and I said goodbye. He opened his eyes when I spoke, but he was not speaking himself at that stage. I told him my Hobart brother would visit him “tomorrow”. Which as it happened, was Friday morning, not the Tuesday as we had thought. He died on Friday night around 10.00pm.

Sincerest condolences, buffy and family. Take care of yourself x

dv said:

My daughter surprised me with a Father’s Day breakfast cruise, which is nice.

Bit rainy but still a nice morning

dv said:

dv said:

My daughter surprised me with a Father’s Day breakfast cruise, which is nice.

Bit rainy but still a nice morning

So what does a Father’s Day breakfast cruise entail?

Yes, it’s now Sept.. Sept afternoon

Had a couple of isolated storms in the last few days which settled the dust and smoke and carpet of fractured grass remnants.

Feels like spring :)

dv said:

dv said:

My daughter surprised me with a Father’s Day breakfast cruise, which is nice.

Bit rainy but still a nice morning

bit rainy??? been bouqueting down here.

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

dv said:

My daughter surprised me with a Father’s Day breakfast cruise, which is nice.

Bit rainy but still a nice morning

So what does a Father’s Day breakfast cruise entail?

Oh, just getting on a boat that goes up and down the rover while we have a nice breakfast.

Ian said:

Yes, it’s now Sept.. Sept afternoon

Had a couple of isolated storms in the last few days which settled the dust and smoke and carpet of fractured grass remnants.

Feels like spring :)

condolences to Buffy and Mr Mutant and their families…

dv said:

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

Bit rainy but still a nice morning

So what does a Father’s Day breakfast cruise entail?

Oh, just getting on a boat that goes up and down the rover while we have a nice breakfast.

that’s a big rover…

dv said:

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

Bit rainy but still a nice morning

So what does a Father’s Day breakfast cruise entail?

Oh, just getting on a boat that goes up and down the rover while we have a nice breakfast.

Sounds pleasant.

Ian said:

Yes, it’s now Sept.. Sept afternoon

Had a couple of isolated storms in the last few days which settled the dust and smoke and carpet of fractured grass remnants.

Feels like spring :)

A lot of the stone fruit blossom is already out in this village.

I’ll need to get Mr Tunks here this week to see to the grass. And the hairdresser here to see to my overgrown hair.

>>“Grab onto your loved ones, pray for this town, stop and give your prayers for the victims,” the hospital’s director, Russell Tippin, told reporters.<<

From:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-01/texas-police-say-multiple-gunshot-victims-shootings-two-cities/11468342

I know it’s probably difficult to think of what to say, but really – prayers amn’t gonna help anyone. Where was your deity of choice when this was going on?

Turning off the pooter while I clean this pooter desk. So don’t bother saying anything to me for a few minutes.

Best wishes to the Dads out there. Kind regards to those who lost have their Dad. xxxx

This looks interesting on SBS movies tonight. Clashes with Les Norton. Might have to use On Demand for it sometime.

Kaze tachinu: The Wind Rises

Sunday, 1 Sep

7:30 PM – 9:50 PM

pg

Jiro dreams of flying and designing beautiful airplanes, inspired by the famous Italian aeronautical designer Caproni. Nearsighted from a young age and thus unable to become a pilot, Jiro joins the aircraft division of a major Japanese engineering company in 1927. His genius is soon recognised, and he grows to become one of the world’s most accomplished airplane designers.

dv said:

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

Bit rainy but still a nice morning

So what does a Father’s Day breakfast cruise entail?

Oh, just getting on a boat that goes up and down the rover while we have a nice breakfast.

And I just won a bottle of whiskey in the raffle!

dv said:

dv said:

Bubblecar said:

So what does a Father’s Day breakfast cruise entail?

Oh, just getting on a boat that goes up and down the rover while we have a nice breakfast.

And I just won a bottle of whiskey in the raffle!

:)

:)

:)

dv said:

dv said:

Bubblecar said:

So what does a Father’s Day breakfast cruise entail?

Oh, just getting on a boat that goes up and down the rover while we have a nice breakfast.

And I just won a bottle of whiskey in the raffle!

https://wiki.lspace.org/mediawiki/Feeney_Upshot

dv said:

dv said:

Bubblecar said:

So what does a Father’s Day breakfast cruise entail?

Oh, just getting on a boat that goes up and down the rover while we have a nice breakfast.

And I just won a bottle of whiskey in the raffle!

:)

dv said:

dv said:

Bubblecar said:

So what does a Father’s Day breakfast cruise entail?

Oh, just getting on a boat that goes up and down the rover while we have a nice breakfast.

And I just won a bottle of whiskey in the raffle!

Looks like Chinese whiskey.

buffy said:

sibeen said:

Sorry to hear about your father, buffy.

Thank you. He was entirely ready. And he followed the book. Their wedding anniversary is today. (Near a significant date). I told him on Monday that Mum was well settled and happy, that he could go when he was ready, and I said goodbye. He opened his eyes when I spoke, but he was not speaking himself at that stage. I told him my Hobart brother would visit him “tomorrow”. Which as it happened, was Friday morning, not the Tuesday as we had thought. He died on Friday night around 10.00pm.

I don’t know of any significant dates other than today being Father’s Day for Mr Mutant’s grandpa. MIL didn’t know much before she flew down, her brother was scant on details. She has a strange relationship with her family and was surprised her brother called *before * their dad died.

Mr Mutant will fly down for the funeral, which is yet to be determined. I assume MIL will be there at least a week, theres the house to sort as well as funeral arrangements and the will.

dv said:

dv said:

Bubblecar said:

So what does a Father’s Day breakfast cruise entail?

Oh, just getting on a boat that goes up and down the rover while we have a nice breakfast.

And I just won a bottle of whiskey in the raffle!

Well done.

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

dv said:

Oh, just getting on a boat that goes up and down the rover while we have a nice breakfast.

And I just won a bottle of whiskey in the raffle!

Looks like Chinese whiskey.

Well it’s from a Perth distiller

dv said:

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

And I just won a bottle of whiskey in the raffle!

Looks like Chinese whiskey.

Well it’s from a Perth distiller

Probably not a lot of peat in it then.

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Looks like Chinese whiskey.

Well it’s from a Perth distiller

Probably not a lot of peat in it then.

Let us know what it’s like.
Here is an example that you can use as a template after you’ve tasted it.

This is not satire.
“This peaty Single Malt dates back to 1816, when John Johnston and Archibald Campbell each constructed a distillery on what today is the Lagavulin site. After Johnston died, Campbell consolidated the two, before selling it to malt merchant Alexander Graham. Today it continues to uphold the traditions of its past, using meticulous preparation to create powerful whisky. Their signature 16 year old malt has a strong peat, smoke and seaweed nose that is followed by a nutty complexity and light fruitiness. In the mouth characters of Charcoal, dry woodiness and iodine followed by chilli chocolate and a hint of toffee.”

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Looks like Chinese whiskey.

Well it’s from a Perth distiller

Probably not a lot of peat in it then.

It’s an expensive bourbon-style whiskey.

Supposedly quite a good one, too.

Peak Warming Man said:

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Well it’s from a Perth distiller

Probably not a lot of peat in it then.

Let us know what it’s like.
Here is an example that you can use as a template after you’ve tasted it.

This is not satire.
“This peaty Single Malt dates back to 1816, when John Johnston and Archibald Campbell each constructed a distillery on what today is the Lagavulin site. After Johnston died, Campbell consolidated the two, before selling it to malt merchant Alexander Graham. Today it continues to uphold the traditions of its past, using meticulous preparation to create powerful whisky. Their signature 16 year old malt has a strong peat, smoke and seaweed nose that is followed by a nutty complexity and light fruitiness. In the mouth characters of Charcoal, dry woodiness and iodine followed by chilli chocolate and a hint of toffee.”

At least there are no hints of Mr Sheen.

Peak Warming Man said:

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Well it’s from a Perth distiller

Probably not a lot of peat in it then.

Let us know what it’s like.
Here is an example that you can use as a template after you’ve tasted it.

This is not satire.
“This peaty Single Malt dates back to 1816, when John Johnston and Archibald Campbell each constructed a distillery on what today is the Lagavulin site. After Johnston died, Campbell consolidated the two, before selling it to malt merchant Alexander Graham. Today it continues to uphold the traditions of its past, using meticulous preparation to create powerful whisky. Their signature 16 year old malt has a strong peat, smoke and seaweed nose that is followed by a nutty complexity and light fruitiness. In the mouth characters of Charcoal, dry woodiness and iodine followed by chilli chocolate and a hint of toffee.”

Lagavulin is my absolute favourite Islay single malt.

UPSHOT
$98.00

700ml | 43% ABV
Look; Golden Amber
Nose; Cedar, toffee, butterscotch and vanilla tones
Taste; Rich creamy texture with light butterscotch, caramel, nutmeg
Finish; well balanced and clean with hints of maple, vanilla, dark toffee.

100% West Australian Grains: 80% corn, 10% malt, 10% wheat. Upshot whiskey is our modern Aussie expression of a well-rounded bourbon great for the novice whisky drinker to the discerning. Uniquely smooth and inviting, and artfully aged in virgin southern white oak in our urban Mediterranean climate. Perfect for enjoying across seasons and in good company.

Best served on the rocks, classic in an old fashioned or with a simple cola.

https://whippersnapperdistillery.com/product/upshot/

Bubblecar said:

UPSHOT
$98.00

700ml | 43% ABV
Look; Golden Amber
Nose; Cedar, toffee, butterscotch and vanilla tones
Taste; Rich creamy texture with light butterscotch, caramel, nutmeg
Finish; well balanced and clean with hints of maple, vanilla, dark toffee.

100% West Australian Grains: 80% corn, 10% malt, 10% wheat. Upshot whiskey is our modern Aussie expression of a well-rounded bourbon great for the novice whisky drinker to the discerning. Uniquely smooth and inviting, and artfully aged in virgin southern white oak in our urban Mediterranean climate. Perfect for enjoying across seasons and in good company.

Best served on the rocks, classic in an old fashioned or with a simple cola.

https://whippersnapperdistillery.com/product/upshot/

$98 is an expensive mixer.

sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

UPSHOT
$98.00

700ml | 43% ABV
Look; Golden Amber
Nose; Cedar, toffee, butterscotch and vanilla tones
Taste; Rich creamy texture with light butterscotch, caramel, nutmeg
Finish; well balanced and clean with hints of maple, vanilla, dark toffee.

100% West Australian Grains: 80% corn, 10% malt, 10% wheat. Upshot whiskey is our modern Aussie expression of a well-rounded bourbon great for the novice whisky drinker to the discerning. Uniquely smooth and inviting, and artfully aged in virgin southern white oak in our urban Mediterranean climate. Perfect for enjoying across seasons and in good company.

Best served on the rocks, classic in an old fashioned or with a simple cola.

https://whippersnapperdistillery.com/product/upshot/

$98 is an expensive mixer.

Yes, I was thinking I wouldn’t spend that much on something to mix with cola.

Pooter room and bedroom now finished (apart from the hoovering). Next, living room then the art studio, linen room, laundry etc.

I’ll do the kitchen this evening, then tomorrow the bathroom and all the vacuuming.

Bubblecar said:

Pooter room and bedroom now finished (apart from the hoovering). Next, living room then the art studio, linen room, laundry etc.

I’ll do the kitchen this evening, then tomorrow the bathroom and all the vacuuming.

Yeah that’ll be ok.

Well I am going to have a lie down, read and nannanap.

Hello, I’m coming to you live from Mr Mutant’s computer. I’m using it to build myself an author website.

People don’t like my pen name so I don’t know what to call myself. Mr Mutant said my pen name sounds like a “hippy lovechild name”.

Divine Angel said:

Hello, I’m coming to you live from Mr Mutant’s computer. I’m using it to build myself an author website.

People don’t like my pen name so I don’t know what to call myself. Mr Mutant said my pen name sounds like a “hippy lovechild name”.

Do you need a pen name?

Well, I was going for a nap. But instead I am (probably) upsetting my brothers. They want to have the eating after the funeral at Mum and Dad’s house. I don’t think taking Mum there is a Good Idea. She will not want to go back to Agewell. And she may get stubborn about it.

Divine Angel said:

Hello, I’m coming to you live from Mr Mutant’s computer. I’m using it to build myself an author website.

People don’t like my pen name so I don’t know what to call myself. Mr Mutant said my pen name sounds like a “hippy lovechild name”.

True, Serenity Rainbow Summer does have a slight hippy feel.

Back from Targa.
There was even a McLaren there. Probably well over a million $$ for it.
Commodore there cost $345,000 to build.

buffy said:

Well, I was going for a nap. But instead I am (probably) upsetting my brothers. They want to have the eating after the funeral at Mum and Dad’s house. I don’t think taking Mum there is a Good Idea. She will not want to go back to Agewell. And she may get stubborn about it.

I thought she was quite happy at Agewell.

sarahs mum said:

Divine Angel said:

Hello, I’m coming to you live from Mr Mutant’s computer. I’m using it to build myself an author website.

People don’t like my pen name so I don’t know what to call myself. Mr Mutant said my pen name sounds like a “hippy lovechild name”.

Do you need a pen name?

Probs not. But I happen to dislike my real surname. My pen name was Raina Mitchell.

Bubblecar said:

Divine Angel said:

Hello, I’m coming to you live from Mr Mutant’s computer. I’m using it to build myself an author website.

People don’t like my pen name so I don’t know what to call myself. Mr Mutant said my pen name sounds like a “hippy lovechild name”.

True, Serenity Rainbow Summer does have a slight hippy feel.

As does Aquarius Moon child.

Why don’t we try to destroy tropical cyclones by nuking them ?

During each hurricane season, there always appear suggestions that one should simply use nuclear weapons to try and destroy the storms. Apart from the fact that this might not even alter the storm, this approach neglects the problem that the released radioactive fallout would fairly quickly move with the tradewinds to affect land areas and cause devastating environmental problems.

Needless to say, this is not a good idea…

https://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/tcfaq/C5c.html

buffy said:

Well, I was going for a nap. But instead I am (probably) upsetting my brothers. They want to have the eating after the funeral at Mum and Dad’s house. I don’t think taking Mum there is a Good Idea. She will not want to go back to Agewell. And she may get stubborn about it.

That is a hard one. Going home is a traditional thing and there are those I am sure who would appreciate it. But I am with you on this one.Is there another rellie that can do this bit?

Ian said:

:)

Divine Angel said:

sarahs mum said:

Divine Angel said:

Hello, I’m coming to you live from Mr Mutant’s computer. I’m using it to build myself an author website.

People don’t like my pen name so I don’t know what to call myself. Mr Mutant said my pen name sounds like a “hippy lovechild name”.

Do you need a pen name?

Probs not. But I happen to dislike my real surname. My pen name was Raina Mitchell.

Not Raina. When I first saw it I thought Raina my parade.

Divine Angel said:

sarahs mum said:

Divine Angel said:

Hello, I’m coming to you live from Mr Mutant’s computer. I’m using it to build myself an author website.

People don’t like my pen name so I don’t know what to call myself. Mr Mutant said my pen name sounds like a “hippy lovechild name”.

Do you need a pen name?

Probs not. But I happen to dislike my real surname. My pen name was Raina Mitchell.

Seems a fine name.

sarahs mum said:

buffy said:

Well, I was going for a nap. But instead I am (probably) upsetting my brothers. They want to have the eating after the funeral at Mum and Dad’s house. I don’t think taking Mum there is a Good Idea. She will not want to go back to Agewell. And she may get stubborn about it.

That is a hard one. Going home is a traditional thing and there are those I am sure who would appreciate it. But I am with you on this one.Is there another rellie that can do this bit?

Or have the wake at the funeral home.

buffy said:

Well, I was going for a nap. But instead I am (probably) upsetting my brothers. They want to have the eating after the funeral at Mum and Dad’s house. I don’t think taking Mum there is a Good Idea. She will not want to go back to Agewell. And she may get stubborn about it.

After the recent funeral for our neighbour, the had eats at the chapel in Gympie. That worked well.

Anyway with all this talk of food, I’d better have some lunch before continuing with the housework.

Tamb said:

Divine Angel said:

sarahs mum said:

Do you need a pen name?

Probs not. But I happen to dislike my real surname. My pen name was Raina Mitchell.

Not Raina. When I first saw it I thought Raina my parade.

Raina is like a switch on the syllables of my real first name.

Divine Angel said:

Tamb said:

Divine Angel said:

Probs not. But I happen to dislike my real surname. My pen name was Raina Mitchell.

Not Raina. When I first saw it I thought Raina my parade.

Raina is like a switch on the syllables of my real first name.

It’s a really nice name & quite different. I can imagine it on the cover of a book.

Tamb said:

Divine Angel said:

Tamb said:

Not Raina. When I first saw it I thought Raina my parade.

Raina is like a switch on the syllables of my real first name.

It’s a really nice name & quite different. I can imagine it on the cover of a book.

Sounds a bit close to actress Radha Mitchell.

Divine Angel said:

Probs not. But I happen to dislike my real surname. My pen name was Raina Mitchell.

Mum’s maiden name?

Witty Rejoinder said:

Divine Angel said:

Probs not. But I happen to dislike my real surname. My pen name was Raina Mitchell.

Mum’s maiden name?

I mean would it be a better alternative?

Bubblecar said:

Anyway with all this talk of food, I’d better have some lunch before continuing with the housework.

Flaked salmon steak with green beans, chopped fennel & onion, marinated artichoke and some of its juice, olive oil, lemon juice, salt, pepper and bow tie pasta.

Very nice.

Peak Warming Man said:

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Well it’s from a Perth distiller

Probably not a lot of peat in it then.

Let us know what it’s like.
Here is an example that you can use as a template after you’ve tasted it.

This is not satire.
“This peaty Single Malt dates back to 1816, when John Johnston and Archibald Campbell each constructed a distillery on what today is the Lagavulin site. After Johnston died, Campbell consolidated the two, before selling it to malt merchant Alexander Graham. Today it continues to uphold the traditions of its past, using meticulous preparation to create powerful whisky. Their signature 16 year old malt has a strong peat, smoke and seaweed nose that is followed by a nutty complexity and light fruitiness. In the mouth characters of Charcoal, dry woodiness and iodine followed by chilli chocolate and a hint of toffee.”

Full of good woody words, that.

Bubblecar said:

buffy said:

Well, I was going for a nap. But instead I am (probably) upsetting my brothers. They want to have the eating after the funeral at Mum and Dad’s house. I don’t think taking Mum there is a Good Idea. She will not want to go back to Agewell. And she may get stubborn about it.

I thought she was quite happy at Agewell.

She is. But put her back at the family home and we will have problems.

Tamb said:

sarahs mum said:

buffy said:

Well, I was going for a nap. But instead I am (probably) upsetting my brothers. They want to have the eating after the funeral at Mum and Dad’s house. I don’t think taking Mum there is a Good Idea. She will not want to go back to Agewell. And she may get stubborn about it.

That is a hard one. Going home is a traditional thing and there are those I am sure who would appreciate it. But I am with you on this one.Is there another rellie that can do this bit?

Or have the wake at the funeral home.

The order of the day is funeral service (celebrant, no religion), family to graveside for burial, go and eat some bits and pieces. I thought we had it sorted (well, my sister in law and I did) to go to my brother’s house. It was unspoken between my SiL and I that we didn’t really want Mum to go to the family home. SiL is a psychologist. I understand my brothers wanting to go there. In other circumstances it would be fine. But Mum…

buffy said:

Bubblecar said:

buffy said:

Well, I was going for a nap. But instead I am (probably) upsetting my brothers. They want to have the eating after the funeral at Mum and Dad’s house. I don’t think taking Mum there is a Good Idea. She will not want to go back to Agewell. And she may get stubborn about it.

I thought she was quite happy at Agewell.

She is. But put her back at the family home and we will have problems.

Fair enough.

Witty Rejoinder said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Divine Angel said:

Probs not. But I happen to dislike my real surname. My pen name was Raina Mitchell.

Mum’s maiden name?

I mean would it be a better alternative?

LOL no.

buffy said:

Tamb said:

sarahs mum said:

That is a hard one. Going home is a traditional thing and there are those I am sure who would appreciate it. But I am with you on this one.Is there another rellie that can do this bit?

Or have the wake at the funeral home.

The order of the day is funeral service (celebrant, no religion), family to graveside for burial, go and eat some bits and pieces. I thought we had it sorted (well, my sister in law and I did) to go to my brother’s house. It was unspoken between my SiL and I that we didn’t really want Mum to go to the family home. SiL is a psychologist. I understand my brothers wanting to go there. In other circumstances it would be fine. But Mum…

:(

You don’t need that.

:(

Divine Angel said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Mum’s maiden name?

I mean would it be a better alternative?

LOL no.

Mum’s maiden name is Dutch, but also the name of a body part. She was bullied at school for it, and that’s the reason she’s kept dad’s name even though they were divorced 25 years ago.

Max Sylvester, who is in his 30s, called air traffic control just over an hour into his lesson on Saturday afternoon after realising he was alone at the controls of the small Cessna.

“He’s leaning over my shoulder, I’m trying to keep him up but he keeps falling down,” Mr Sylvester can be heard telling the controller.

It was Mr Sylvester’s first lesson in a two-seater as his wife and three children watched him from the ground.

The air traffic operator kept the trainee calm as he talked him through an emergency landing.

“Do you know how to operate the airplane?” the operator asks.

“This is my first lesson,” Mr Sylvester tells him.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-01/trainee-pilot-makes-emergency-landing-jandakot/11468580

sarahs mum said:

Max Sylvester, who is in his 30s, called air traffic control just over an hour into his lesson on Saturday afternoon after realising he was alone at the controls of the small Cessna.

“He’s leaning over my shoulder, I’m trying to keep him up but he keeps falling down,” Mr Sylvester can be heard telling the controller.

It was Mr Sylvester’s first lesson in a two-seater as his wife and three children watched him from the ground.

The air traffic operator kept the trainee calm as he talked him through an emergency landing.

“Do you know how to operate the airplane?” the operator asks.

“This is my first lesson,” Mr Sylvester tells him.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-01/trainee-pilot-makes-emergency-landing-jandakot/11468580

Hehe just read that.
All’s well that ends well.

Divine Angel said:

Divine Angel said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

I mean would it be a better alternative?

LOL no.

Mum’s maiden name is Dutch, but also the name of a body part. She was bullied at school for it, and that’s the reason she’s kept dad’s name even though they were divorced 25 years ago.

Violet Bumm sounds fine to me.

Peak Warming Man said:

sarahs mum said:

Max Sylvester, who is in his 30s, called air traffic control just over an hour into his lesson on Saturday afternoon after realising he was alone at the controls of the small Cessna.

“He’s leaning over my shoulder, I’m trying to keep him up but he keeps falling down,” Mr Sylvester can be heard telling the controller.

It was Mr Sylvester’s first lesson in a two-seater as his wife and three children watched him from the ground.

The air traffic operator kept the trainee calm as he talked him through an emergency landing.

“Do you know how to operate the airplane?” the operator asks.

“This is my first lesson,” Mr Sylvester tells him.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-01/trainee-pilot-makes-emergency-landing-jandakot/11468580

Hehe just read that.
All’s well that ends well.

Good job his name was Sylvester, they always land safely.

Bubblecar said:

Divine Angel said:

Divine Angel said:

LOL no.

Mum’s maiden name is Dutch, but also the name of a body part. She was bullied at school for it, and that’s the reason she’s kept dad’s name even though they were divorced 25 years ago.

Violet Bumm sounds fine to me.

Violet von Bummington sounds classy.

Michael V said:

Ian said:

:)

t’would be funny
…if it were funny

If you think T Rex’s arms are tiny, have a look Carnotaurus.

Forelimbs

The forelimbs were proportionally shorter than in any other large carnivorous dinosaurs, including Tyrannosaurus. The forearm was only a quarter the size of the upper arm. There were no carpalia in the hand, so that the metacarpals articulated directly with the forearm. The hand showed four basic digits, though apparently only the middle two of these ended in finger bones, while the fourth consisted of a single splint-like metacarpal that may have represented an external ‘spur’. The fingers themselves were fused and immobile, and may have lacked claws. Carnotaurus differed from all other abelisaurids in having proportionally shorter and more robust forelimbs, and in having the fourth, splint-like metacarpal as the longest bone in the hand. A 2009 study suggests that the arms were vestigial in abelisaurids, because nerve fibers responsible for stimulus transmission were reduced to an extent seen in today’s emus and kiwis, which also have vestigial forelimbs.

Bubblecar said:

If you think T Rex’s arms are tiny, have a look Carnotaurus.

Forelimbs

The forelimbs were proportionally shorter than in any other large carnivorous dinosaurs, including Tyrannosaurus. The forearm was only a quarter the size of the upper arm. There were no carpalia in the hand, so that the metacarpals articulated directly with the forearm. The hand showed four basic digits, though apparently only the middle two of these ended in finger bones, while the fourth consisted of a single splint-like metacarpal that may have represented an external ‘spur’. The fingers themselves were fused and immobile, and may have lacked claws. Carnotaurus differed from all other abelisaurids in having proportionally shorter and more robust forelimbs, and in having the fourth, splint-like metacarpal as the longest bone in the hand. A 2009 study suggests that the arms were vestigial in abelisaurids, because nerve fibers responsible for stimulus transmission were reduced to an extent seen in today’s emus and kiwis, which also have vestigial forelimbs.

Looks more bird like than lizard like.

Ogmog said:

Michael V said:

Ian said:

:)

t’would be funny
…if it were funny

He should be in a straightjacket though.

My local spotted bowerbird is still trying.

Bubblecar said:

If you think T Rex’s arms are tiny, have a look Carnotaurus.

Forelimbs

The forelimbs were proportionally shorter than in any other large carnivorous dinosaurs, including Tyrannosaurus. The forearm was only a quarter the size of the upper arm. There were no carpalia in the hand, so that the metacarpals articulated directly with the forearm. The hand showed four basic digits, though apparently only the middle two of these ended in finger bones, while the fourth consisted of a single splint-like metacarpal that may have represented an external ‘spur’. The fingers themselves were fused and immobile, and may have lacked claws. Carnotaurus differed from all other abelisaurids in having proportionally shorter and more robust forelimbs, and in having the fourth, splint-like metacarpal as the longest bone in the hand. A 2009 study suggests that the arms were vestigial in abelisaurids, because nerve fibers responsible for stimulus transmission were reduced to an extent seen in today’s emus and kiwis, which also have vestigial forelimbs.

Shopped.

roughbarked said:

My local spotted bowerbird is still trying.

He likes dem bones.

roughbarked said:

My local spotted bowerbird is still trying.

Unless he starts getting more blue things his chances of a rogering some freckle this season are not looking good.

Bubblecar said:

If you think T Rex’s arms are tiny, have a look Carnotaurus.

Forelimbs

The forelimbs were proportionally shorter than in any other large carnivorous dinosaurs, including Tyrannosaurus. The forearm was only a quarter the size of the upper arm. There were no carpalia in the hand, so that the metacarpals articulated directly with the forearm. The hand showed four basic digits, though apparently only the middle two of these ended in finger bones, while the fourth consisted of a single splint-like metacarpal that may have represented an external ‘spur’. The fingers themselves were fused and immobile, and may have lacked claws. Carnotaurus differed from all other abelisaurids in having proportionally shorter and more robust forelimbs, and in having the fourth, splint-like metacarpal as the longest bone in the hand. A 2009 study suggests that the arms were vestigial in abelisaurids, because nerve fibers responsible for stimulus transmission were reduced to an extent seen in today’s emus and kiwis, which also have vestigial forelimbs.

I didn’t know that emus had vestigial arms, I wonder about cassowaries?

Bubblecar said:

roughbarked said:

My local spotted bowerbird is still trying.

He likes dem bones.

He sure does.

Peak Warming Man said:

roughbarked said:

My local spotted bowerbird is still trying.

Unless he starts getting more blue things his chances of a rogering some freckle this season are not looking good.

No, that’s the satin bowerbird that likes blue things.

Peak Warming Man said:

Bubblecar said:

If you think T Rex’s arms are tiny, have a look Carnotaurus.

Forelimbs

The forelimbs were proportionally shorter than in any other large carnivorous dinosaurs, including Tyrannosaurus. The forearm was only a quarter the size of the upper arm. There were no carpalia in the hand, so that the metacarpals articulated directly with the forearm. The hand showed four basic digits, though apparently only the middle two of these ended in finger bones, while the fourth consisted of a single splint-like metacarpal that may have represented an external ‘spur’. The fingers themselves were fused and immobile, and may have lacked claws. Carnotaurus differed from all other abelisaurids in having proportionally shorter and more robust forelimbs, and in having the fourth, splint-like metacarpal as the longest bone in the hand. A 2009 study suggests that the arms were vestigial in abelisaurids, because nerve fibers responsible for stimulus transmission were reduced to an extent seen in today’s emus and kiwis, which also have vestigial forelimbs.

I didn’t know that emus had vestigial arms, I wonder about cassowaries?

They are called wings.

roughbarked said:

Peak Warming Man said:

roughbarked said:

My local spotted bowerbird is still trying.

Unless he starts getting more blue things his chances of a rogering some freckle this season are not looking good.

No, that’s the satin bowerbird that likes blue things.

The spotted bowerbird prefers bones and pastels like antique greenish glass and the prize seens to be green quandongs. Most of the bones are kangaroo bones.

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Unless he starts getting more blue things his chances of a rogering some freckle this season are not looking good.

No, that’s the satin bowerbird that likes blue things.

The spotted bowerbird prefers bones and pastels like antique greenish glass and the prize seens to be green quandongs. Most of the bones are kangaroo bones.

Well he needs more quandongs then and less bones.
That’s the best advice I can give him besides smartening himself up.

Peak Warming Man said:

Bubblecar said:

If you think T Rex’s arms are tiny, have a look Carnotaurus.

Forelimbs

The forelimbs were proportionally shorter than in any other large carnivorous dinosaurs, including Tyrannosaurus. The forearm was only a quarter the size of the upper arm. There were no carpalia in the hand, so that the metacarpals articulated directly with the forearm. The hand showed four basic digits, though apparently only the middle two of these ended in finger bones, while the fourth consisted of a single splint-like metacarpal that may have represented an external ‘spur’. The fingers themselves were fused and immobile, and may have lacked claws. Carnotaurus differed from all other abelisaurids in having proportionally shorter and more robust forelimbs, and in having the fourth, splint-like metacarpal as the longest bone in the hand. A 2009 study suggests that the arms were vestigial in abelisaurids, because nerve fibers responsible for stimulus transmission were reduced to an extent seen in today’s emus and kiwis, which also have vestigial forelimbs.

I didn’t know that emus had vestigial arms, I wonder about cassowaries?

I didn’t know this either.

roughbarked said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Bubblecar said:

If you think T Rex’s arms are tiny, have a look Carnotaurus.

Forelimbs

The forelimbs were proportionally shorter than in any other large carnivorous dinosaurs, including Tyrannosaurus. The forearm was only a quarter the size of the upper arm. There were no carpalia in the hand, so that the metacarpals articulated directly with the forearm. The hand showed four basic digits, though apparently only the middle two of these ended in finger bones, while the fourth consisted of a single splint-like metacarpal that may have represented an external ‘spur’. The fingers themselves were fused and immobile, and may have lacked claws. Carnotaurus differed from all other abelisaurids in having proportionally shorter and more robust forelimbs, and in having the fourth, splint-like metacarpal as the longest bone in the hand. A 2009 study suggests that the arms were vestigial in abelisaurids, because nerve fibers responsible for stimulus transmission were reduced to an extent seen in today’s emus and kiwis, which also have vestigial forelimbs.

I didn’t know that emus had vestigial arms, I wonder about cassowaries?

They are called wings.

I think vestigial forelimbs is a better description. They aren’t really functional wings by ans stretch.

Last night’s aurora snapped in nearby Ross. I didn’t even know there was one happening :/

buffy said:

roughbarked said:

Peak Warming Man said:

I didn’t know that emus had vestigial arms, I wonder about cassowaries?

They are called wings.

I think vestigial forelimbs is a better description. They aren’t really functional wings by ans stretch.

Fair assessment.

Bubblecar said:

Last night’s aurora snapped in nearby Ross. I didn’t even know there was one happening :/

Awesome.

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/outlooks/#/overview/video

Well spring is not looking spiffing at all.

Bubblecar said:

Last night’s aurora snapped in nearby Ross. I didn’t even know there was one happening :/

That’s a pleasant photo but probably shopped to buggery though.

Peak Warming Man said:

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/outlooks/#/overview/video

Well spring is not looking spiffing at all.

Climate change was supposed to bring more rain, dammit!

Divine Angel said:

Peak Warming Man said:

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/outlooks/#/overview/video

Well spring is not looking spiffing at all.

Climate change was supposed to bring more rain, dammit!

Actually the opposite for much of Australia.

Lake of the day. Khuvsgul.

>>BOM said the aurora may be visible again tonight from Tasmania, southern Victoria and Perth.<<

Gonna have to get rid of the cloud first, I reckon.

Am feeling depressed because at least five climate change scientists have published that the concentration of nitrogen in the dry atmosphere, yes nitrogen, N₂, is 1/4.8 = 20.8%.

That means peer review is sure to reject any climate change publication claiming that nitrogen makes up more than 50% of the atmosphere.

buffy said:

>>BOM said the aurora may be visible again tonight from Tasmania, southern Victoria and Perth.<<

Gonna have to get rid of the cloud first, I reckon.

Well I hope Bubblecar spends a considerable length of time tonight and early morning outside with his camera so he can post some good shots for us when we get out of our warm snug beds in the morning.

mollwollfumble said:

Lake of the day. Khuvsgul.

I’ll put that on my bucket list, looks nice.

buffy said:

>>BOM said the aurora may be visible again tonight from Tasmania, southern Victoria and Perth.<<

Gonna have to get rid of the cloud first, I reckon.

No clouds here.

Michael V said:

buffy said:

>>BOM said the aurora may be visible again tonight from Tasmania, southern Victoria and Perth.<<

Gonna have to get rid of the cloud first, I reckon.

No clouds here.

We’ve got wind and clouds. I tested out the restrung prop line with sheets and towels today. It has, so far, stood the test. I wonder just how gusty this has been – it’s certainly felt gusty.

Completely overcast here.

http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDV60801/IDV60801.94829.shtml

Yeah, been gusting to 50ish a few times.

Bit cloudy in Perf too.

http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR702.loop.shtml#skip

Bubblecar said:

Completely overcast here.

But if you’re out there with your camera when there is a sudden break in the clouds and you get a spectacular photo for the ages that will gladden the hearts of so many people when they wake up and turn their computers on it would be something that you’d be remembered for.
Remembered for going that extra yard for your fellow man.

Evening. Was rather warm here in the Styx today, was good.

Vacuumed Dads car today for Fathers day, its nice and clean inside now.

He cleaned the outside of his car a few days ago.

I need to vacuum my car interior as well.

buffy said:

Michael V said:

buffy said:

>>BOM said the aurora may be visible again tonight from Tasmania, southern Victoria and Perth.<<

Gonna have to get rid of the cloud first, I reckon.

No clouds here.

We’ve got wind and clouds. I tested out the restrung prop line with sheets and towels today. It has, so far, stood the test. I wonder just how gusty this has been – it’s certainly felt gusty.

No wind down here but clouds passing means that there is up there.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Vacuumed Dads car today for Fathers day, its nice and clean inside now.

He cleaned the outside of his car a few days ago.

I need to vacuum my car interior as well.

I had to shovel up my fathers day present and bring it home then shovel it oout again. Free mulch should never be missed. 5 cubic metres by shovel. This must mean that my prostate operation has healed up well.

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

Michael V said:

No clouds here.

We’ve got wind and clouds. I tested out the restrung prop line with sheets and towels today. It has, so far, stood the test. I wonder just how gusty this has been – it’s certainly felt gusty.

No wind down here but clouds passing means that there is up there.

Just showered here, trees still dripping water.

roughbarked said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Vacuumed Dads car today for Fathers day, its nice and clean inside now.

He cleaned the outside of his car a few days ago.

I need to vacuum my car interior as well.

I had to shovel up my fathers day present and bring it home then shovel it oout again. Free mulch should never be missed. 5 cubic metres by shovel. This must mean that my prostate operation has healed up well.

I filled up a large trailer with mulch a few months ago, took a few hours to fill it.

Its quicker to put tarps in first, fill with mulch, then drag the tarp out of the trailer at the recycle centre

No sweeping or cleaning the trailer.

That load of mulch went to the lawn clipping, leaves section.

poikilotherm said:

Evening. Was rather warm here in the Styx today, was good.

What, hit double digits?

roughbarked said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Vacuumed Dads car today for Fathers day, its nice and clean inside now.

He cleaned the outside of his car a few days ago.

I need to vacuum my car interior as well.

I had to shovel up my fathers day present and bring it home then shovel it oout again. Free mulch should never be missed. 5 cubic metres by shovel. This must mean that my prostate operation has healed up well.

Nice.

Divine Angel said:

poikilotherm said:

Evening. Was rather warm here in the Styx today, was good.

What, hit double digits?

Double digits there is 0.1…

Divine Angel said:

poikilotherm said:

Evening. Was rather warm here in the Styx today, was good.

What, hit double digits?

Nah, triple – 14.8 and sunny.

poikilotherm said:

Divine Angel said:

poikilotherm said:

Evening. Was rather warm here in the Styx today, was good.

What, hit double digits?

Nah, triple – 14.8 and sunny.

Got to 26°C, but it’s back to a jumper-needed 21.1°C now. Am I getting acclimatised or what?

It’s 10 degrees here at the moment, got to Oooh – 13! during the middle of the day. I did take my jumper off and work in jeans and t-shirt while moving bricks and splitting firewood for half and hour or so. The rest of the time I’ve had a jumper on.

:)

Bubblecar said:

You do find some strange ones.

Bubblecar said:

Wyatt Earp & co ?

I wish I had written this. Found under the story about the ABS distorting data in the Guardian..

>> jclucas
10h ago
Guardian Pick
136 137

Good journalism is critically important in a liberal democracy, but the truth is essential in the face of growing authoritarianism. The crisis facing journalism is symptomatic of the crisis facing democracy.

End stage neoliberalism gravitates towards authoritarian nationalism – an elaborate, antidemocratic con game – presided over by narcissistic, showmen-con men as leaders.

The by now undeniable phenomenon explains a lot. It must be called out.

Since the raison d’être of the neoliberal political economy is to abuse power to redistribute money upwards from the lower socioeconomic strata to the higher, the political imperative for Scott Morrison, Donald Trump and Boris Johnson is to use all manner of dishonest and diversionary tactics to draw the attention of the voting public away from the hidden economic agenda.

It is not accidental that the characteristic obsession with border control, national security, and scapegoating out groups has become the stock and trade for diverting scrutiny from unfair economic policy, which increases economic inequality and decreases equality of opportunity.

From the unfolding drama of Brexit to America’s geopolitical brinkmanship with Iran and China to Australia’s serial persecution of asylum seekers – and incidentally Morrison’s tawdry, personal publicising of the expulsion of a Muslim paedophile – the pattern is clear.

What is not clear is when the whole stinking pile will collapse into history, for continue it cannot.

With both economic and environmental crises looming on the horizon the system has become unsustainable, and change is inevitable – or democracy will descend into tyranny.

To mislead the public about their motives, the political masters of deceit manically confabulate, obfuscate, and cover up the realities. Johnson, Trump, and Morrison are dangerous politicians because they have somewhat successfully managed to take over their respective polities with the financial support of the monied, vested interests and the collusion of a compromised main stream media – which is why the media is mistrusted.

Neoliberal ideology reigns in economic policy, however, end stage neoliberalism also embraces a variety of arcane “conservative” political issues like “religious freedom” – which appears to mean the freedom to discriminate based on religion – climate change denial – which means coal is good for humanity – and chest thumping nationalism – which operationalises as making Britain great again by leaving the EU. The far right quasi-religious and extreme belief system holds the Coalition, the Republicans, and the Tories together – but it is far from mainstream values.

The economic fiction that the con artists must perpetuate is that neoliberal policy will ultimately serve the common good, when the reality is that tax cuts for the already well-off and already profitable businesses will only serve the vested interests, the 1% and the top 20%.

Truth must correct the lies.

Government is run like a for-profit business, fiscal policy is mythologised as the household budget, and austerity measures are imposed on the less well-off, perversely passed off as “savings”. As the democratic constituents become more wary, and as the need to manufacture consent for the con to keep going past an election arises, the neoliberal con artists will offer sweeteners in the con: pretending that tax cuts will advantage the many, “spending” on social services and infrastructure and the ever- deceptive ploy of promising success to those who keep their heads down, work hard, and “have a go” will one day prosper like the upper quintile.

The aggressive exploitation of resources from the natural environment for short term profit ignores both long term ecological and economic realities. Neoliberalism is synonymous with the extraction and burning of fossil fuels, the constant dissemination of disinformation about renewable energy sources, and the militant suppression of forward progress on climate change mitigation. The Morrison regime habitually says emissions are falling when they are in fact rising. It is no mistake that although upon occasion Morrison, Johnson and Trump may pay lip service to the “issue” for their own political purposes, their actions make their loyalties very clear.

Like the economy, climate change is more than simply a political issue that can be managed with demagoguery and deceit forever. With global recession and environmental disaster bearing down on the planet the fast talking antics of the neoliberal conmen becomes more frenetic and noticeable. Morrison’s gaslighting of the Pacific leaders, Johnson’s naked grab for power with the outrageous manipulation of the Westminster system, and Trump’s calculated denigration of immigrants, refuges, and asylum seekers belie the fraudulent claim to legitimate power of the neoliberal con artists.

Only truth telling to recover the democratic character of the polity can bring the dark age of neoliberalism to an end.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2019/sep/01/abss-shameful-distortion-of-the-truth-shows-why-good-journalists-see-beyond-the-spin

good evening forum.. A nice quiet family day. Apart from the terrible weather so we all had to stay inside for most of the day.. Miss J cooked breakfast, then a ton of treats to go in future lunchboxes, I don’t know what they did for lunch because I went tot he gym, then family afternoon movie watching, Mr A is cooking dinner and both are currently doing chores… we are warm, and dry and cosy.. a great fathers day for Mr Arts and not a bad day for me either.

I wonder if She’s and his wife got spoiled also

Arts said:

good evening forum.. A nice quiet family day. Apart from the terrible weather so we all had to stay inside for most of the day.. Miss J cooked breakfast, then a ton of treats to go in future lunchboxes, I don’t know what they did for lunch because I went tot he gym, then family afternoon movie watching, Mr A is cooking dinner and both are currently doing chores… we are warm, and dry and cosy.. a great fathers day for Mr Arts and not a bad day for me either.

I wonder if She’s and his wife got spoiled also

Sounds a decent day, well done.

Just drudgery this end, but then I’m not a father.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Bubblecar said:

Wyatt Earp & co ?

Apparently that photo was staged to represent “the Tombstone Thunderbird”, a tall tale about a giant bird or pterosaur shot down over Tombstone, Arizona.

But when and where it was actually taken, I don’t know.

Bubblecar said:

Arts said:

good evening forum.. A nice quiet family day. Apart from the terrible weather so we all had to stay inside for most of the day.. Miss J cooked breakfast, then a ton of treats to go in future lunchboxes, I don’t know what they did for lunch because I went tot he gym, then family afternoon movie watching, Mr A is cooking dinner and both are currently doing chores… we are warm, and dry and cosy.. a great fathers day for Mr Arts and not a bad day for me either.

I wonder if She’s and his wife got spoiled also

Sounds a decent day, well done.

Just drudgery this end, but then I’m not a father.

Just loneliness this end. My father died 45 years ago.

Still..being lonely on father’s day is better than being lonely on Mother’s day.

sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

Arts said:

good evening forum.. A nice quiet family day. Apart from the terrible weather so we all had to stay inside for most of the day.. Miss J cooked breakfast, then a ton of treats to go in future lunchboxes, I don’t know what they did for lunch because I went tot he gym, then family afternoon movie watching, Mr A is cooking dinner and both are currently doing chores… we are warm, and dry and cosy.. a great fathers day for Mr Arts and not a bad day for me either.

I wonder if She’s and his wife got spoiled also

Sounds a decent day, well done.

Just drudgery this end, but then I’m not a father.

Just loneliness this end. My father died 45 years ago.

Still..being lonely on father’s day is better than being lonely on Mother’s day.

my father died in 1986..

Are any of you lot still watching Glitch?

And DA, that book you sent is Very Interesting. I’ve read a lot of it, but I need to go back and read some of it more closely. Like the fabric descriptions and stuff.

Arts said:

sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

Sounds a decent day, well done.

Just drudgery this end, but then I’m not a father.

Just loneliness this end. My father died 45 years ago.

Still..being lonely on father’s day is better than being lonely on Mother’s day.

my father died in 1986..

Mine died 23 years ago.

Monastery of the day. Gandantegchenling

Bubblecar said:

Arts said:

sarahs mum said:

Just loneliness this end. My father died 45 years ago.

Still..being lonely on father’s day is better than being lonely on Mother’s day.

my father died in 1986..

Mine died 23 years ago.

So we have missing in common.

Bubblecar said:

Wow.

And they got the forward sweep of the wings right, too. So much for that being a recent discovery.

Bubblecar said:

Arts said:

good evening forum.. A nice quiet family day. Apart from the terrible weather so we all had to stay inside for most of the day.. Miss J cooked breakfast, then a ton of treats to go in future lunchboxes, I don’t know what they did for lunch because I went tot he gym, then family afternoon movie watching, Mr A is cooking dinner and both are currently doing chores… we are warm, and dry and cosy.. a great fathers day for Mr Arts and not a bad day for me either.

I wonder if She’s and his wife got spoiled also

Sounds a decent day, well done.

Just drudgery this end, but then I’m not a father.

“What do you mean?” he said. “Do you wish me a good evening, or mean that it is a good evening whether I want it or not; or that you feel good this evening; or that it is an evening forum to be good on?”

mollwollfumble said:

Bubblecar said:

Wow.

And they got the forward sweep of the wings right, too. So much for that being a recent discovery.

I don’t know how old the photo is. Hard to find information about it.

Frustratingly, it’s most commonly found illustrating articles about the Tombstone Thunderbird in which it’s claimed there was never any photo, but many people falsely remember seeing one.

So maybe we’re just falsely remembering that one.

so the news is all over the anniversary of Diana’s death, but not one mention of Mother Teresa, who also died in the same week

Arts said:

so the news is all over the anniversary of Diana’s death, but not one mention of Mother Teresa, who also died in the same week

So 22 year, eh.

Arts said:

so the news is all over the anniversary of Diana’s death, but not one mention of Mother Teresa, who also died in the same week

glad we don’t remember mother teresa. nasty bit of work she was.

sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

Arts said:

good evening forum.. A nice quiet family day. Apart from the terrible weather so we all had to stay inside for most of the day.. Miss J cooked breakfast, then a ton of treats to go in future lunchboxes, I don’t know what they did for lunch because I went tot he gym, then family afternoon movie watching, Mr A is cooking dinner and both are currently doing chores… we are warm, and dry and cosy.. a great fathers day for Mr Arts and not a bad day for me either.

I wonder if She’s and his wife got spoiled also

Sounds a decent day, well done.

Just drudgery this end, but then I’m not a father.

Just loneliness this end. My father died 45 years ago.

Still..being lonely on father’s day is better than being lonely on Mother’s day.

You’re going the same way as kii.

few from today

PermeateFree said:

sarahs mum said:

Bubblecar said:

Sounds a decent day, well done.

Just drudgery this end, but then I’m not a father.

Just loneliness this end. My father died 45 years ago.

Still..being lonely on father’s day is better than being lonely on Mother’s day.

You’re going the same way as kii.

What? When I tell you to fuck off and leave the forum?

transition said:

few from today

Ohh, black wetsuits in Great White country.

sarahs mum said:

PermeateFree said:

sarahs mum said:

Just loneliness this end. My father died 45 years ago.

Still..being lonely on father’s day is better than being lonely on Mother’s day.

You’re going the same way as kii.

What? When I tell you to fuck off and leave the forum?

Think you should visit your doctor, they can help.

Arts said:

so the news is all over the anniversary of Diana’s death, but not one mention of Mother Teresa, who also died in the same week

I read that as she died in the same wreck.

rubs eyes

transition said:

few from today

Looks like a pleasant outing.

PermeateFree said:

sarahs mum said:

PermeateFree said:

You’re going the same way as kii.

What? When I tell you to fuck off and leave the forum?

Think you should visit your doctor, they can help.

Doctors don’t have a pill for loneliness.

Sarahs mum posts here for a bit of company, not for needless snide remarks.

PermeateFree said:

sarahs mum said:

PermeateFree said:

You’re going the same way as kii.

What? When I tell you to fuck off and leave the forum?

Think you should visit your doctor, they can help.

Don’t be an arsehole.

Witty Rejoinder said:

PermeateFree said:

sarahs mum said:

What? When I tell you to fuck off and leave the forum?

Think you should visit your doctor, they can help.

Don’t be an arsehole.

+1

an apology might be in order

Arts said:

so the news is all over the anniversary of Diana’s death, but not one mention of Mother Teresa, who also died in the same week

good

JudgeMental said:

Arts said:

so the news is all over the anniversary of Diana’s death, but not one mention of Mother Teresa, who also died in the same week

glad we don’t remember mother teresa. nasty bit of work she was.

+1

Bubblecar said:

PermeateFree said:

sarahs mum said:

What? When I tell you to fuck off and leave the forum?

Think you should visit your doctor, they can help.

Doctors don’t have a pill for loneliness.

Sarahs mum posts here for a bit of company, not for needless snide remarks.

It’s easiest to not engage ol’ PF – most of his info and commentary is less than useless.

buffy said:

And DA, that book you sent is Very Interesting. I’ve read a lot of it, but I need to go back and read some of it more closely. Like the fabric descriptions and stuff.

I’m so glad you like it 😊 I’ll trust my gut in future, not the second guessing!

Bubblecar said:

PermeateFree said:

sarahs mum said:

What? When I tell you to fuck off and leave the forum?

Think you should visit your doctor, they can help.

Doctors don’t have a pill for loneliness.

Sarahs mum posts here for a bit of company, not for needless snide remarks.

SM, go back and re-read what I previously wrote.

I called my dad. He always sounds like he has something better to do than talk to me. My sister’s the favourite. I don’t care anymore, I’ve had a few decades to get over it.

I didn’t call my father today if that makes you feel any better.

when do you mob switch to DLS time?

party_pants said:

when do you mob switch to DLS time?

October some time I think.

poikilotherm said:

JudgeMental said:

Arts said:

so the news is all over the anniversary of Diana’s death, but not one mention of Mother Teresa, who also died in the same week

glad we don’t remember mother teresa. nasty bit of work she was.

+1

Bunch of haters up in here. I mean shit, everyone knows hitlers death.

Arts said:

poikilotherm said:

JudgeMental said:

glad we don’t remember mother teresa. nasty bit of work she was.

+1

Bunch of haters up in here.

it’s what we do best.

Especially those Pommie cricketers.

Arts said:

poikilotherm said:

JudgeMental said:

glad we don’t remember mother teresa. nasty bit of work she was.

+1

Bunch of haters up in here. I mean shit, everyone knows hitlers death.

I don’t.

Arts said:

Bunch of haters up in here. I mean shit, everyone knows hitlers death.

I’ve been reading about Unity Mitford. She was interesting. Not the sharpest tool in the shed, but interesting.

Arts said:

poikilotherm said:

JudgeMental said:

glad we don’t remember mother teresa. nasty bit of work she was.

+1

Bunch of haters up in here. I mean shit, everyone knows hitlers death.

hey, if it hadn’t been for adolf we wouldn’t have put a man on the moon!

Anyway, Mother Theresa didn’t sell magazines. Diana, even 22 years after her death, still sells.

Divine Angel said:

Anyway, Mother Theresa didn’t sell magazines. Diana, even 22 years after her death, still sells.

Not as much money in misery I guess.

Edaphosaurus, Dimetrodon, Sphenacodon, and Ophiacodon, from Rudolph Zallinger’s famous mural ‘The Age of Reptiles’ in the Peabody Museum.

poikilotherm said:

Arts said:

poikilotherm said:

+1

Bunch of haters up in here. I mean shit, everyone knows hitlers death.

I don’t.

Well, that’s weird.

Divine Angel said:

Anyway, Mother Theresa didn’t sell magazines. Diana, even 22 years after her death, still sells.

True. Also Diana’s Death caused conspiracy uprisings. So there’s still that whole shroud of mystery thing, I suppose.

Ah … boss lady and I made inroads into that whiskey.

Divine Angel said:

Anyway, Mother Theresa didn’t sell magazines. Diana, even 22 years after her death, still sells.

Diana didn’t sell magazines directly, or even necessarily willingly.

Bubblecar said:

Edaphosaurus, Dimetrodon, Sphenacodon, and Ophiacodon, from Rudolph Zallinger’s famous mural ‘The Age of Reptiles’ in the Peabody Museum.

well you know how I feel about reptiles

Arts said:

Divine Angel said:

Anyway, Mother Theresa didn’t sell magazines. Diana, even 22 years after her death, still sells.

True. Also Diana’s Death caused conspiracy uprisings. So there’s still that whole shroud of mystery thing, I suppose.

It ruined SWMBO’s 30th birthday party.

Divine Angel said:

Arts said:

Bunch of haters up in here. I mean shit, everyone knows hitlers death.

I’ve been reading about Unity Mitford. She was interesting. Not the sharpest tool in the shed, but interesting.

Never heard of her until now.

And what I found is this in Wikipedia.

“In December 2007, Bright published an article in New Statesman stating that following a previous article on Unity Mitford, he had received a phone call from a Ms Val Hann, a member of the public, offering new information on the story. The caller said that during the war, her aunt, Betty Norton, had run Hill View Cottage, a private maternity hospital in Oxford where Mitford had been a client. According to Hann’s family legend, passed from Betty to Val’s mother and then on to Val herself, Mitford had checked into the hospital after her return to England where she had given birth to Hitler’s child, who was subsequently given up for adoption. Bright states he was initially sceptical……..”

That child probably had a quite fathers day of reflection today.

dv said:

Ah … boss lady and I made inroads into that whiskey.

Any good?

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

Ah … boss lady and I made inroads into that whiskey.

Any good?

Not outstanding but good enough for humble folk such as us

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

Ah … boss lady and I made inroads into that whiskey.

Any good?

A big and bold Mr Sheen aftertaste.

Peak Warming Man said:

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

Ah … boss lady and I made inroads into that whiskey.

Any good?

A big and bold Mr Sheen aftertaste.

It’s basically a bourbon.

The distillery is right near my daughter’s place, might have to do a tour or something

Was going to try to achieve something today but I might get shifffaced instead

Apparently Hitler cried When he ordered Blondi killed.

dv said:

Was going to try to achieve something today but I might get shifffaced instead

Enjoy yourself.

Bubblecar said:

hard to know what they are getting at

Bubblecar said:

Unless you’re one of those twits who believe Ken Ham’s view that humans coexisted with the dinosaurs.

Peak Warming Man said:

Divine Angel said:

Arts said:

Bunch of haters up in here. I mean shit, everyone knows hitlers death.

I’ve been reading about Unity Mitford. She was interesting. Not the sharpest tool in the shed, but interesting.

Never heard of her until now.

And what I found is this in Wikipedia.

“In December 2007, Bright published an article in New Statesman stating that following a previous article on Unity Mitford, he had received a phone call from a Ms Val Hann, a member of the public, offering new information on the story. The caller said that during the war, her aunt, Betty Norton, had run Hill View Cottage, a private maternity hospital in Oxford where Mitford had been a client. According to Hann’s family legend, passed from Betty to Val’s mother and then on to Val herself, Mitford had checked into the hospital after her return to England where she had given birth to Hitler’s child, who was subsequently given up for adoption. Bright states he was initially sceptical……..”

That child probably had a quite fathers day of reflection today.

I think someone needs to find that child, someone of neutral national influences, someone in close contact with the titular heads of state and the Illuminati and someone with impeccable diplomatic skills.
That someone can only be Eccky Thump, if we can find him
We need to get to that child before the Simon Wiesenthal Foundation.

dv said:

Bubblecar said:

hard to know what they are getting at

Yes, it would be more astonishing if some man had seen them alive.

Peak Warming Man said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Divine Angel said:

I’ve been reading about Unity Mitford. She was interesting. Not the sharpest tool in the shed, but interesting.

Never heard of her until now.

And what I found is this in Wikipedia.

“In December 2007, Bright published an article in New Statesman stating that following a previous article on Unity Mitford, he had received a phone call from a Ms Val Hann, a member of the public, offering new information on the story. The caller said that during the war, her aunt, Betty Norton, had run Hill View Cottage, a private maternity hospital in Oxford where Mitford had been a client. According to Hann’s family legend, passed from Betty to Val’s mother and then on to Val herself, Mitford had checked into the hospital after her return to England where she had given birth to Hitler’s child, who was subsequently given up for adoption. Bright states he was initially sceptical……..”

That child probably had a quite fathers day of reflection today.

I think someone needs to find that child, someone of neutral national influences, someone in close contact with the titular heads of state and the Illuminati and someone with impeccable diplomatic skills.
That someone can only be Eccky Thump, if we can find him
We need to get to that child before the Simon Wiesenthal Foundation.

Shouldn’t be hard to find, those kind of moustaches aren’t common these days.

Bubblecar said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Never heard of her until now.

And what I found is this in Wikipedia.

“In December 2007, Bright published an article in New Statesman stating that following a previous article on Unity Mitford, he had received a phone call from a Ms Val Hann, a member of the public, offering new information on the story. The caller said that during the war, her aunt, Betty Norton, had run Hill View Cottage, a private maternity hospital in Oxford where Mitford had been a client. According to Hann’s family legend, passed from Betty to Val’s mother and then on to Val herself, Mitford had checked into the hospital after her return to England where she had given birth to Hitler’s child, who was subsequently given up for adoption. Bright states he was initially sceptical……..”

That child probably had a quite fathers day of reflection today.

I think someone needs to find that child, someone of neutral national influences, someone in close contact with the titular heads of state and the Illuminati and someone with impeccable diplomatic skills.
That someone can only be Eccky Thump, if we can find him
We need to get to that child before the Simon Wiesenthal Foundation.

Shouldn’t be hard to find, those kind of moustaches aren’t common these days.

I’ll go to bed and sleep on how best to contact Eccky Thump.
He might be at his Estate in Northumperland.

dv said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Bubblecar said:

Any good?

A big and bold Mr Sheen aftertaste.

It’s basically a bourbon.

The distillery is right near my daughter’s place, might have to do a tour or something

So, the distillery is near your daughters house, your daughter got you the cruise tickets where you ‘won’ the raffle for the alcohol that is distilled near your daughters house… hmmm. Interesting.