Date: 3/09/2019 10:43:13
From: dv
ID: 1430925
Subject: Pack hunters

Consider this tracking map of wolves in a national park in Minnesota, showing how they scrupulously avoid each other’s territory.

https://digg.com/2019/minnesota-voyageurs-national-park-wolves

But it also confused me a bit. Aren’t wolves pack hunters?

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Date: 3/09/2019 10:47:36
From: dv
ID: 1430930
Subject: re: Pack hunters

Damn, those park officials are fast.
I sent them a FB message about this at 8:38 am (my time) and they replied at 8:42 am.


The map showed the GPS-movements of wolves in 6 different packs (only 1 wolf was collared per pack). During the summer, wolves actually spend much of the time as solitary individuals because they are mainly subsisting on small prey (beavers and deer fawns in our area). Because these prey are small, there is not enough to share with other wolves when a kill is made so wolves spend most of the time solo during the summer months. However, they end up connecting with other pack members back at the den or rendezvous site. Once the pups are big enough to travel in late summer, then the pack will start moving together and hunting prey as a pack! Hope that helps!

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Date: 3/09/2019 10:48:54
From: Speedy
ID: 1430932
Subject: re: Pack hunters

Yes, it says at the top of the article that they tracked the packs.

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Date: 3/09/2019 10:50:58
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1430934
Subject: re: Pack hunters

dv said:


Damn, those park officials are fast.
I sent them a FB message about this at 8:38 am (my time) and they replied at 8:42 am.

The map showed the GPS-movements of wolves in 6 different packs (only 1 wolf was collared per pack). During the summer, wolves actually spend much of the time as solitary individuals because they are mainly subsisting on small prey (beavers and deer fawns in our area). Because these prey are small, there is not enough to share with other wolves when a kill is made so wolves spend most of the time solo during the summer months. However, they end up connecting with other pack members back at the den or rendezvous site. Once the pups are big enough to travel in late summer, then the pack will start moving together and hunting prey as a pack! Hope that helps!

Very prompt and helpful.

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Date: 3/09/2019 10:57:35
From: Speedy
ID: 1430942
Subject: re: Pack hunters

The white pack is still learning about boundaries.

This highlights why habitat loss is a main driver of extinction and how, for many species, clearing their patch rarely means they disperse successfully.

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Date: 3/09/2019 10:59:39
From: sibeen
ID: 1430948
Subject: re: Pack hunters

dv said:


Damn, those park officials are fast.
I sent them a FB message about this at 8:38 am (my time) and they replied at 8:42 am.

The map showed the GPS-movements of wolves in 6 different packs (only 1 wolf was collared per pack). During the summer, wolves actually spend much of the time as solitary individuals because they are mainly subsisting on small prey (beavers and deer fawns in our area). Because these prey are small, there is not enough to share with other wolves when a kill is made so wolves spend most of the time solo during the summer months. However, they end up connecting with other pack members back at the den or rendezvous site. Once the pups are big enough to travel in late summer, then the pack will start moving together and hunting prey as a pack! Hope that helps!

Did you thank them for the information on behalf of all of us?

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Date: 3/09/2019 11:00:24
From: dv
ID: 1430949
Subject: re: Pack hunters

sibeen said:


dv said:

Damn, those park officials are fast.
I sent them a FB message about this at 8:38 am (my time) and they replied at 8:42 am.

The map showed the GPS-movements of wolves in 6 different packs (only 1 wolf was collared per pack). During the summer, wolves actually spend much of the time as solitary individuals because they are mainly subsisting on small prey (beavers and deer fawns in our area). Because these prey are small, there is not enough to share with other wolves when a kill is made so wolves spend most of the time solo during the summer months. However, they end up connecting with other pack members back at the den or rendezvous site. Once the pups are big enough to travel in late summer, then the pack will start moving together and hunting prey as a pack! Hope that helps!

Did you thank them for the information on behalf of all of us?

I thanked them but I didn’t name you all specifically.

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Date: 3/09/2019 11:08:34
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1430963
Subject: re: Pack hunters

is this also true of aboriginal tribes in pre-European days? And clans in Scotland, tribes in Africa?

If these are anything like tribes in mountain gorillas and Australian aborigines, these packs are not permanent fixtures, but are born from a single individual who gathers others, grows and fights for increased territory and members and die off due to various factors, to be replaced by new packs.

In other words it would just be coincidence that each wolf pack would currently have a similar amount of territory.

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Date: 3/09/2019 11:44:36
From: dv
ID: 1430994
Subject: re: Pack hunters

There’s a dingo tracking program on Fraser Island.

https://parks.des.qld.gov.au/parks/fraser/pdf/dingo-trackingreport-2013.pdf

Yes … very inconspicuous.

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Date: 3/09/2019 11:48:48
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1430995
Subject: re: Pack hunters

dv said:


There’s a dingo tracking program on Fraser Island.

https://parks.des.qld.gov.au/parks/fraser/pdf/dingo-trackingreport-2013.pdf

Yes … very inconspicuous.

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Date: 3/09/2019 11:48:49
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1430996
Subject: re: Pack hunters

dv said:


There’s a dingo tracking program on Fraser Island.

https://parks.des.qld.gov.au/parks/fraser/pdf/dingo-trackingreport-2013.pdf

Yes … very inconspicuous.

It must have cost them a fortune to get those special black transmitters made.

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Date: 3/09/2019 11:51:29
From: Tamb
ID: 1430998
Subject: re: Pack hunters

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:

There’s a dingo tracking program on Fraser Island.

https://parks.des.qld.gov.au/parks/fraser/pdf/dingo-trackingreport-2013.pdf

Yes … very inconspicuous.

It must have cost them a fortune to get those special black transmitters made.


Maybe they meant conspicuous.

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Date: 3/09/2019 11:53:51
From: dv
ID: 1431000
Subject: re: Pack hunters

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:

There’s a dingo tracking program on Fraser Island.

https://parks.des.qld.gov.au/parks/fraser/pdf/dingo-trackingreport-2013.pdf

Yes … very inconspicuous.

It must have cost them a fortune to get those special black transmitters made.

“Okay, we’ve finally received the order. Dingos are jet black, right?”

Seems as though that thing could interfere with a dingo’s lifestyle. You can get GPS trackers on ebay with a mobile phone transmitter for 40 bucks a pop, it’s about the size of an apple core, no visible antenna.

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Date: 4/09/2019 10:01:59
From: Ogmog
ID: 1431519
Subject: re: Pack hunters

dv said:


Consider this tracking map of wolves in a national park in Minnesota, showing how they scrupulously avoid each other’s territory.

https://digg.com/2019/minnesota-voyageurs-national-park-wolves

But it also confused me a bit. Aren’t wolves pack hunters?

Never Cry Wolf

I found the movie fascinating enough to
prompt me to read the book by the same name

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