Date: 5/09/2019 13:39:00
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1432138
Subject: Oldest ancestor is changing our understanding of evolution

How the skull of humanity’s oldest known ancestor is changing our understanding of evolution

The recent discovery of a 3.8m-year-old cranium (skull without the lower jaw) is the hottest topic of conversation among palaeoanthropologists right now. But fossils are found all the time, so why is the cranium of this small, old man so important? It turns out the discovery is changing our view of how early hominin species evolved – and how they led to humans. To understand how, let’s start at the beginning.

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Date: 5/09/2019 13:43:44
From: dv
ID: 1432144
Subject: re: Oldest ancestor is changing our understanding of evolution

“humanity’s oldest known ancestor”

Humanity’s oldest known ancestor, in terms of the fossil record, would be a Cephalochordate from around 500 million years ago. The fossil record gets a bit murky before that.

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Date: 5/09/2019 13:44:49
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1432145
Subject: re: Oldest ancestor is changing our understanding of evolution

dv said:


“humanity’s oldest known ancestor”

Humanity’s oldest known ancestor, in terms of the fossil record, would be a Cephalochordate from around 500 million years ago. The fossil record gets a bit murky before that.

Lots of missing information to be still found.

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Date: 5/09/2019 13:59:48
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1432148
Subject: re: Oldest ancestor is changing our understanding of evolution

Tau.Neutrino said:


How the skull of humanity’s oldest known ancestor is changing our understanding of evolution

The recent discovery of a 3.8m-year-old cranium (skull without the lower jaw) is the hottest topic of conversation among palaeoanthropologists right now. But fossils are found all the time, so why is the cranium of this small, old man so important? It turns out the discovery is changing our view of how early hominin species evolved – and how they led to humans. To understand how, let’s start at the beginning.

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From: PermeateFree Date: 29/08/2019 14:51:32
ID: 1428849
Subject: re: Face of oldest human ancestor comes into focus with new fossil skull

PermeateFree said:

A>> new fossil discovery means we’re finally able to look upon the face of our oldest ancestor. Paleontologists have discovered an almost-complete skull of Australopithecus anamensis, which has previously only been known from some jawbones, teeth and bits of leg bones. The new find allowed scientists to realistically recreate the hominin’s face for the first time – and it might just shake up the family tree.<< https://newatlas.com/science/oldest-human-ancestor-skull-face-reconstruction/

Also:

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/38-million-year-old-skull-puts-new-face-little-known-human-ancestor-species-180973006/

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Date: 5/09/2019 21:11:48
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1432306
Subject: re: Oldest ancestor is changing our understanding of evolution

PermeateFree said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

How the skull of humanity’s oldest known ancestor is changing our understanding of evolution

The recent discovery of a 3.8m-year-old cranium (skull without the lower jaw) is the hottest topic of conversation among palaeoanthropologists right now. But fossils are found all the time, so why is the cranium of this small, old man so important? It turns out the discovery is changing our view of how early hominin species evolved – and how they led to humans. To understand how, let’s start at the beginning.

more…

From: PermeateFree Date: 29/08/2019 14:51:32
ID: 1428849
Subject: re: Face of oldest human ancestor comes into focus with new fossil skull

PermeateFree said:

A>> new fossil discovery means we’re finally able to look upon the face of our oldest ancestor. Paleontologists have discovered an almost-complete skull of Australopithecus anamensis, which has previously only been known from some jawbones, teeth and bits of leg bones. The new find allowed scientists to realistically recreate the hominin’s face for the first time – and it might just shake up the family tree.<< https://newatlas.com/science/oldest-human-ancestor-skull-face-reconstruction/

Also:

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/38-million-year-old-skull-puts-new-face-little-known-human-ancestor-species-180973006/

Yep. https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/topics/11780/

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Date: 14/09/2019 17:16:55
From: dv
ID: 1435910
Subject: re: Oldest ancestor is changing our understanding of evolution

We can hypothesize, with reasonable surety, the existence of Most Recent Common Ancestors of any two groups of existing lifeforms on the basis of genetic comparison, and the technology for making these comparisons has improve a lot over the last 20 years, allowing the timing of individual mutations to be estimated.

But these hypothesized ancestors don’t necessarily related to any known fossils. So our discussion here made me ponder about what actual fossil can reasonably said to be probably an ancestor of humans, or at least part of a clade that was an ancestor of humans. We have fossils back to 3.7 billion years or so but no real way of even guessing whether those lifeforms have any extant descendants.

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Date: 14/09/2019 20:11:16
From: dv
ID: 1435988
Subject: re: Oldest ancestor is changing our understanding of evolution

The major assemblage of macroscopic pre-Cambrian fauna is the Ediacaran fauna (~620 mya to 530 mya). The relationship between these forms and the fauna of the Cambrian remains a matter of dispute. It’s widely accepted now that at least some of the Ediacaran fauna are according-to-Hoyle animals.

It might contain members of Bilataria. Members of the genus Spriggina (~555 mya), for instance, could be ancestors of humans.

Maybe the oldest lifeform known from fossils that is widely accepted as an ancestory of humans would be the genus Saccorhytus (~540 mya). They were about a millimetre across.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-38800987

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Date: 14/09/2019 20:13:11
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1435990
Subject: re: Oldest ancestor is changing our understanding of evolution

dv said:


The major assemblage of macroscopic pre-Cambrian fauna is the Ediacaran fauna (~620 mya to 530 mya). The relationship between these forms and the fauna of the Cambrian remains a matter of dispute. It’s widely accepted now that at least some of the Ediacaran fauna are according-to-Hoyle animals.

It might contain members of Bilataria. Members of the genus Spriggina (~555 mya), for instance, could be ancestors of humans.

Maybe the oldest lifeform known from fossils that is widely accepted as an ancestory of humans aowould be the genus Saccorhytus (~540 mya). They were about a millimetre across.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-38800987


So much subtext…

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Date: 14/09/2019 20:13:14
From: sibeen
ID: 1435991
Subject: re: Oldest ancestor is changing our understanding of evolution

dv said:


The major assemblage of macroscopic pre-Cambrian fauna is the Ediacaran fauna (~620 mya to 530 mya). The relationship between these forms and the fauna of the Cambrian remains a matter of dispute. It’s widely accepted now that at least some of the Ediacaran fauna are according-to-Hoyle animals.

It might contain members of Bilataria. Members of the genus Spriggina (~555 mya), for instance, could be ancestors of humans.

Maybe the oldest lifeform known from fossils that is widely accepted as an ancestory of humans would be the genus Saccorhytus (~540 mya). They were about a millimetre across.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-38800987


Looks like The Scream :)

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Date: 14/09/2019 20:13:25
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1435992
Subject: re: Oldest ancestor is changing our understanding of evolution

dv said:


The major assemblage of macroscopic pre-Cambrian fauna is the Ediacaran fauna (~620 mya to 530 mya). The relationship between these forms and the fauna of the Cambrian remains a matter of dispute. It’s widely accepted now that at least some of the Ediacaran fauna are according-to-Hoyle animals.

It might contain members of Bilataria. Members of the genus Spriggina (~555 mya), for instance, could be ancestors of humans.

Maybe the oldest lifeform known from fossils that is widely accepted as an ancestory of humans would be the genus Saccorhytus (~540 mya). They were about a millimetre across.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-38800987


I can see a face.

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