Date: 29/09/2019 10:14:37
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1442782
Subject: Power Generation Question

How much energy for ac power could be generated by pedal power for say an hour?

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Date: 29/09/2019 10:23:53
From: fsm
ID: 1442784
Subject: re: Power Generation Question

‘Pedaling a bike at a reasonable pace generates about 100 watts of power. That’s the same energy-per-time used by a 100-watt lightbulb. So if you pedaled eight hours every day for 30 days (no weekends off), then doing the math, you’d generate 24 kilowatt-hours (kWh) of energy. Note that I’m not worrying about the efficiency in the electrical systems involved, which would drop the number closer to 16 kWh.’

https://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2016/12/08/504790589/could-you-power-your-home-with-a-bike

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Date: 29/09/2019 10:25:29
From: Michael V
ID: 1442785
Subject: re: Power Generation Question

Tau.Neutrino said:

How much energy for ac power could be generated by pedal power for say an hour?

https://furthermore.equinox.com/articles/2015/06/how-to-train-with-watts

“Most pro cyclists produce about 200 to 300 watts on average during a four-hour tour stage. The recreational rider, on the other hand, might be only able to sustain this wattage during a 45-minute or hour-long spin class.”

So, about 1 amp @ 240 V.

Probably much less if continuous and less fit than top end athletes.

see also:

https://www.google.com/search?q=cycling+energy+calculator&rlz=1C1CHBF_en-GBAU815AU815&oq=cycling+ener&aqs=chrome.4.0j69i57j0l4.17497j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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Date: 29/09/2019 10:29:46
From: dv
ID: 1442786
Subject: re: Power Generation Question

Tau.Neutrino said:

How much energy for ac power could be generated by pedal power for say an hour?

For me, something like 0.1 kWh, ie 360000 J.

For someone who is fit, something like 0.4 kWh, ie 1440000 J.

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Date: 29/09/2019 10:30:15
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1442787
Subject: re: Power Generation Question

Tau.Neutrino said:

How much energy for ac power could be generated by pedal power for say an hour?

You’d go broke buying food to fuel your pedalling.

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Date: 29/09/2019 10:35:55
From: dv
ID: 1442789
Subject: re: Power Generation Question

poikilotherm said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

How much energy for ac power could be generated by pedal power for say an hour?

You’d go broke buying food to fuel your pedalling.

I suppose it would be something to consider if you were already going to do this hour of riding for fitness reasons, (so the food was going to be bought anyway), and you wanted to use the power generated as a side benefit.

Electricity costs around 30c / kWh on average retail price in Australia, so if you were some hyperfit person who can gen 0.4 kWh in an hour on a bike, and you were able to convert that energy with 100% efficiency, then you’ve saved … 12 cents.

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Date: 29/09/2019 10:39:27
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1442794
Subject: re: Power Generation Question

It’s a surprisingly small amount.
You’d need quite a few slaves before investing in the batteries to store the energy.
And you need to reinvest in the batteries every 5 years and replace the slaves every 10 years.
It doesn’t stack up economically.

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Date: 29/09/2019 10:48:05
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1442798
Subject: re: Power Generation Question

Peak Warming Man said:


It’s a surprisingly small amount.
You’d need quite a few slaves before investing in the batteries to store the energy.
And you need to reinvest in the batteries every 5 years and replace the slaves every 10 years.
It doesn’t stack up economically.

Surely modern batteries last longer than that?

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Date: 29/09/2019 10:50:22
From: dv
ID: 1442800
Subject: re: Power Generation Question

Hopefully modern slaves last longer than that too though I don’t have any data to support it.

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Date: 29/09/2019 10:56:46
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1442802
Subject: re: Power Generation Question

dv said:


Hopefully modern slaves last longer than that too though I don’t have any data to support it.

they are a renewable resource so that’s a plus.

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Date: 29/09/2019 11:20:41
From: Ian
ID: 1442804
Subject: re: Power Generation Question

In practice you could run a couple of low powered lights by pedal power..

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xbUxt2×4InE

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Date: 29/09/2019 11:21:59
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1442805
Subject: re: Power Generation Question

How about pit ponies?

I have a vague recollection that the first ever electric power station used for lighting up street lighting (something like 40 globes) used human power.

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Date: 29/09/2019 11:24:05
From: Tamb
ID: 1442806
Subject: re: Power Generation Question

mollwollfumble said:


How about pit ponies?

I have a vague recollection that the first ever electric power station used for lighting up street lighting (something like 40 globes) used human power.


School of the air in Australia used pedal powered bicycles.

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Date: 29/09/2019 11:26:02
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1442808
Subject: re: Power Generation Question

Ian said:


In practice you could run a couple of low powered lights by pedal power..

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xbUxt2×4InE

Was looking at some of these wind up radios and wondering how many wind-ups to charge them?

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/5-Year-Warranty-Dynamo-Wind-Up-Solar-USB-Rechargeable-Portable-AM-FM-Radio/113852109877

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Dynamo-Wind-Up-Solar-USB-Rechargeable-Portable-AM-FM-Radio-3-Year-Warranty/191876218618

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Eton-FRX5-BT-Emergency-Weather-Radio-with-Bluetooth-and-Smartphone-Charger-F/222839504578

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Date: 29/09/2019 11:27:06
From: sibeen
ID: 1442809
Subject: re: Power Generation Question

Tamb said:


mollwollfumble said:

How about pit ponies?

I have a vague recollection that the first ever electric power station used for lighting up street lighting (something like 40 globes) used human power.


School of the air in Australia used pedal powered bicycles.

Pedal powered bicycles, that must have been revolutionary.

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Date: 29/09/2019 11:29:00
From: Tamb
ID: 1442810
Subject: re: Power Generation Question

sibeen said:


Tamb said:

mollwollfumble said:

How about pit ponies?

I have a vague recollection that the first ever electric power station used for lighting up street lighting (something like 40 globes) used human power.


School of the air in Australia used pedal powered bicycles.

Pedal powered bicycles, that must have been revolutionary.

groan

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Date: 29/09/2019 11:30:02
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1442811
Subject: re: Power Generation Question

sibeen said:


Tamb said:

mollwollfumble said:

How about pit ponies?

I have a vague recollection that the first ever electric power station used for lighting up street lighting (something like 40 globes) used human power.


School of the air in Australia used pedal powered bicycles.

Pedal powered bicycles, that must have been revolutionary.

Before pedals and chains people had to use their feet to push themselves along.

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Date: 29/09/2019 11:30:44
From: party_pants
ID: 1442812
Subject: re: Power Generation Question

the legal maximum power output for electric assisted bicycles is 250 watts. These motor and battery pack kits will give you about the same power output as pedaling hard.

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Date: 29/09/2019 11:32:23
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1442813
Subject: re: Power Generation Question

party_pants said:


the legal maximum power output for electric assisted bicycles is 250 watts. These motor and battery pack kits will give you about the same power output as pedaling hard.

ok.

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Date: 29/09/2019 11:33:27
From: Tamb
ID: 1442814
Subject: re: Power Generation Question

Tau.Neutrino said:


sibeen said:

Tamb said:

School of the air in Australia used pedal powered bicycles.

Pedal powered bicycles, that must have been revolutionary.

Before pedals and chains people had to use their feet to push themselves along.


Thus

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Date: 29/09/2019 11:33:30
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1442815
Subject: re: Power Generation Question

I saw this product and wondered

https://core-electronics.com.au/k-tor-pedal-powered-generator-the-power-box.html

Its a retired product

somewhat overpriced

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Date: 29/09/2019 11:35:31
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1442816
Subject: re: Power Generation Question

Tau.Neutrino said:


I saw this product and wondered

https://core-electronics.com.au/k-tor-pedal-powered-generator-the-power-box.html

Its a retired product

somewhat overpriced

The Power Box has 20 watts of generation capacity at 120 volts.

so not very efficient either

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Date: 29/09/2019 11:38:00
From: party_pants
ID: 1442818
Subject: re: Power Generation Question

Tau.Neutrino said:


party_pants said:

the legal maximum power output for electric assisted bicycles is 250 watts. These motor and battery pack kits will give you about the same power output as pedaling hard.

ok.

That is just to give you a comparison, working at the problem the other way, trying to match an electric motor kit to about what a fit human adult is capable of.

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