Birdwatchers fear for the fate of thousands of short-tailed shearwaters, also known as mutton birds, which failed to arrive in south-west Victoria at the usual time after their annual migration from the northern hemisphere.
Key points:

For the past 30 years, short-tailed shearwaters, known as mutton birds, have arrived at an island near Port Fairy, Victoria, in late September So far, only a handful of the migratory birds have turned up, out of a usual colony of 40,000 Climate variability or food availability in the northern hemisphere may have delayed the birds’ arrival

Each year, hundreds of thousands of short-tailed shearwaters descend on Victoria’s coastline to breed following a mammoth journey which takes two months to complete.

The birds spend the northern summer around Alaska, before travelling 15,000 kilometres to Australia where they arrive with precision.

For the past 30 years, the south-west Victorian population has arrived at Griffiths Island, near Port Fairy, a day either side of September 22.

But this year, the date came and went without the usual flurry of activity.

Peter Barrand, president of Birdlife Warrnambool, said he had basically set his watch by the shearwaters’ arrival for the past three decades.

more…

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-05/mutton-birds-delayed-migratory-vic-arrival-alarms-birdwatchers/11572220

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Muttonbird is off the menu.

sarahs mum said:

Birdwatchers fear for the fate of thousands of short-tailed shearwaters, also known as mutton birds, which failed to arrive in south-west Victoria at the usual time after their annual migration from the northern hemisphere.
Key points:

For the past 30 years, short-tailed shearwaters, known as mutton birds, have arrived at an island near Port Fairy, Victoria, in late September So far, only a handful of the migratory birds have turned up, out of a usual colony of 40,000 Climate variability or food availability in the northern hemisphere may have delayed the birds’ arrival

Each year, hundreds of thousands of short-tailed shearwaters descend on Victoria’s coastline to breed following a mammoth journey which takes two months to complete.

The birds spend the northern summer around Alaska, before travelling 15,000 kilometres to Australia where they arrive with precision.

For the past 30 years, the south-west Victorian population has arrived at Griffiths Island, near Port Fairy, a day either side of September 22.

But this year, the date came and went without the usual flurry of activity.

Peter Barrand, president of Birdlife Warrnambool, said he had basically set his watch by the shearwaters’ arrival for the past three decades.

more…

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-05/mutton-birds-delayed-migratory-vic-arrival-alarms-birdwatchers/11572220

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Muttonbird is off the menu.

>>There have been numerous reports of bird starvation events in the northern hemisphere over the past five years, including several reports in Alaska and even New York.

According to research published in the journal Science, there are now 2.9 billion — or about 29 per cent — fewer birds in North America now than in 1970.

Alaska’s government-backed National Park Service has reported massive seabird die-offs, also known as wrecks, for five consecutive years.

It’s sparked concern in the southern hemisphere.

“Something’s obviously gone drastically wrong in the arctic — whatever the shearwaters have been feeding on has failed to appear,” Mr Barrand said.

“Autopsies have shown the deaths were all attributed to starvation. And that’s the worrying part about it.

“What’s gone … in the northern hemisphere to stop these birds feeding as they normally do? Is it the dreaded climate change or some other event that’s occurred?”<<

>>But for Warrnambool’s local bird-watching community, that’s a wake-up call of the highest order.

“People have really got to sit up and take notice of this — it’s a really significant event,” Mr Barrand said.

“It’s looking like it’s an increasing trend over the last five years, but this is a very, very serious situation.”<<

The problem for these long range migratory birds is their need of a dependable food supply, but with human habitat destruction and rapid climate change it does not look good for most of these species. IMO we are seeing the beginning of the 6th mass extinction event.

sarahs mum said:

Birdwatchers fear for the fate of thousands of short-tailed shearwaters, also known as mutton birds, which failed to arrive in south-west Victoria at the usual time after their annual migration from the northern hemisphere.
Key points:

For the past 30 years, short-tailed shearwaters, known as mutton birds, have arrived at an island near Port Fairy, Victoria, in late September So far, only a handful of the migratory birds have turned up, out of a usual colony of 40,000 Climate variability or food availability in the northern hemisphere may have delayed the birds’ arrival

Each year, hundreds of thousands of short-tailed shearwaters descend on Victoria’s coastline to breed following a mammoth journey which takes two months to complete.

The birds spend the northern summer around Alaska, before travelling 15,000 kilometres to Australia where they arrive with precision.

For the past 30 years, the south-west Victorian population has arrived at Griffiths Island, near Port Fairy, a day either side of September 22.

But this year, the date came and went without the usual flurry of activity.

Peter Barrand, president of Birdlife Warrnambool, said he had basically set his watch by the shearwaters’ arrival for the past three decades.

more…

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-05/mutton-birds-delayed-migratory-vic-arrival-alarms-birdwatchers/11572220

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Muttonbird is off the menu.

One year, perhaps 7 or so years ago now, I set out to Phillip Island to observe the incoming annual migration of muttonbirds. I chose my time to be the peak muttonbird migration time.

I stayed there half the night and not a single muttonbird did I see or hear. Their migration was delayed.

No mention in the press.

mollwollfumble said:

sarahs mum said:

Birdwatchers fear for the fate of thousands of short-tailed shearwaters, also known as mutton birds, which failed to arrive in south-west Victoria at the usual time after their annual migration from the northern hemisphere.
Key points:

For the past 30 years, short-tailed shearwaters, known as mutton birds, have arrived at an island near Port Fairy, Victoria, in late September So far, only a handful of the migratory birds have turned up, out of a usual colony of 40,000 Climate variability or food availability in the northern hemisphere may have delayed the birds’ arrival

Each year, hundreds of thousands of short-tailed shearwaters descend on Victoria’s coastline to breed following a mammoth journey which takes two months to complete.

The birds spend the northern summer around Alaska, before travelling 15,000 kilometres to Australia where they arrive with precision.

For the past 30 years, the south-west Victorian population has arrived at Griffiths Island, near Port Fairy, a day either side of September 22.

But this year, the date came and went without the usual flurry of activity.

Peter Barrand, president of Birdlife Warrnambool, said he had basically set his watch by the shearwaters’ arrival for the past three decades.

more…

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-05/mutton-birds-delayed-migratory-vic-arrival-alarms-birdwatchers/11572220

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Muttonbird is off the menu.

One year, perhaps 7 or so years ago now, I set out to Phillip Island to observe the incoming annual migration of muttonbirds. I chose my time to be the peak muttonbird migration time.

I stayed there half the night and not a single muttonbird did I see or hear. Their migration was delayed.

No mention in the press.

Are you inferring that this is a media beat-up?

PermeateFree said:

mollwollfumble said:

sarahs mum said:

Birdwatchers fear for the fate of thousands of short-tailed shearwaters, also known as mutton birds, which failed to arrive in south-west Victoria at the usual time after their annual migration from the northern hemisphere.
Key points:

For the past 30 years, short-tailed shearwaters, known as mutton birds, have arrived at an island near Port Fairy, Victoria, in late September So far, only a handful of the migratory birds have turned up, out of a usual colony of 40,000 Climate variability or food availability in the northern hemisphere may have delayed the birds’ arrival

Each year, hundreds of thousands of short-tailed shearwaters descend on Victoria’s coastline to breed following a mammoth journey which takes two months to complete.

The birds spend the northern summer around Alaska, before travelling 15,000 kilometres to Australia where they arrive with precision.

For the past 30 years, the south-west Victorian population has arrived at Griffiths Island, near Port Fairy, a day either side of September 22.

But this year, the date came and went without the usual flurry of activity.

Peter Barrand, president of Birdlife Warrnambool, said he had basically set his watch by the shearwaters’ arrival for the past three decades.

more…

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-05/mutton-birds-delayed-migratory-vic-arrival-alarms-birdwatchers/11572220

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Muttonbird is off the menu.

One year, perhaps 7 or so years ago now, I set out to Phillip Island to observe the incoming annual migration of muttonbirds. I chose my time to be the peak muttonbird migration time.

I stayed there half the night and not a single muttonbird did I see or hear. Their migration was delayed.

No mention in the press.

Are you inferring that this is a media beat-up?

No. Just ignorance.

mollwollfumble said:

PermeateFree said:

mollwollfumble said:

One year, perhaps 7 or so years ago now, I set out to Phillip Island to observe the incoming annual migration of muttonbirds. I chose my time to be the peak muttonbird migration time.

I stayed there half the night and not a single muttonbird did I see or hear. Their migration was delayed.

No mention in the press.

Are you inferring that this is a media beat-up?

No. Just ignorance.

Don’t worry moll, I certainly wont hold that against you, but if you want to learn just ask.

mollwollfumble said:

PermeateFree said:

mollwollfumble said:

One year, perhaps 7 or so years ago now, I set out to Phillip Island to observe the incoming annual migration of muttonbirds. I chose my time to be the peak muttonbird migration time.

I stayed there half the night and not a single muttonbird did I see or hear. Their migration was delayed.

No mention in the press.

Are you inferring that this is a media beat-up?

No. Just ignorance.

Plenty of that about.

PermeateFree said:

sarahs mum said:

Birdwatchers fear for the fate of thousands of short-tailed shearwaters, also known as mutton birds, which failed to arrive in south-west Victoria at the usual time after their annual migration from the northern hemisphere.
Key points:

For the past 30 years, short-tailed shearwaters, known as mutton birds, have arrived at an island near Port Fairy, Victoria, in late September So far, only a handful of the migratory birds have turned up, out of a usual colony of 40,000 Climate variability or food availability in the northern hemisphere may have delayed the birds’ arrival

Each year, hundreds of thousands of short-tailed shearwaters descend on Victoria’s coastline to breed following a mammoth journey which takes two months to complete.

The birds spend the northern summer around Alaska, before travelling 15,000 kilometres to Australia where they arrive with precision.

For the past 30 years, the south-west Victorian population has arrived at Griffiths Island, near Port Fairy, a day either side of September 22.

But this year, the date came and went without the usual flurry of activity.

Peter Barrand, president of Birdlife Warrnambool, said he had basically set his watch by the shearwaters’ arrival for the past three decades.

more…

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-05/mutton-birds-delayed-migratory-vic-arrival-alarms-birdwatchers/11572220

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Muttonbird is off the menu.

>>There have been numerous reports of bird starvation events in the northern hemisphere over the past five years, including several reports in Alaska and even New York.

According to research published in the journal Science, there are now 2.9 billion — or about 29 per cent — fewer birds in North America now than in 1970.

Alaska’s government-backed National Park Service has reported massive seabird die-offs, also known as wrecks, for five consecutive years.

It’s sparked concern in the southern hemisphere.

“Something’s obviously gone drastically wrong in the arctic — whatever the shearwaters have been feeding on has failed to appear,” Mr Barrand said.

“Autopsies have shown the deaths were all attributed to starvation. And that’s the worrying part about it.

“What’s gone … in the northern hemisphere to stop these birds feeding as they normally do? Is it the dreaded climate change or some other event that’s occurred?”<<

>>But for Warrnambool’s local bird-watching community, that’s a wake-up call of the highest order.

“People have really got to sit up and take notice of this — it’s a really significant event,” Mr Barrand said.

“It’s looking like it’s an increasing trend over the last five years, but this is a very, very serious situation.”<<

The problem for these long range migratory birds is their need of a dependable food supply, but with human habitat destruction and rapid climate change it does not look good for most of these species. IMO we are seeing the beginning of the 6th mass extinction event.

I read that piece. It also said there were reports of the birds streaming past Gabo Island. But it was just one sentence. So maybe they are just late this year.

PermeateFree said:

mollwollfumble said:

PermeateFree said:

Are you inferring that this is a media beat-up?

No. Just ignorance.

Don’t worry moll, I certainly wont hold that against you, but if you want to learn just ask.

Exactly. Thank you. I would claim to be extremely ignorant, but that is too much like a boast. So i will claim to aspire to ordinary levels of ignorance.

The chance of me actually observing, about 7 years ago, an event that made headlines in yesterday’s news is minuscule. There must be billions of events about which i am ignorant.

No mutton birds yet on my beach walks….they have been sparse in the last few years, some years previously the beach has been chock a block with dead and dying birds. Perhaps they are late this year, but perhaps multiple pressures on the environment are yet another sign that we are in a bit of trouble on Planet A. I’m hoping they will appear soon so we can breathe a sigh of relief that our focus on growth and development can continue unchecked.

ruby said:

No mutton birds yet on my beach walks….they have been sparse in the last few years, some years previously the beach has been chock a block with dead and dying birds. Perhaps they are late this year, but perhaps multiple pressures on the environment are yet another sign that we are in a bit of trouble on Planet A. I’m hoping they will appear soon so we can breathe a sigh of relief that our focus on growth and development can continue unchecked.

Thank you, ruby.

Aussie backyard bird count starts in 13 days. Perhaps we should put mutton birds on the menu. Have a trip or two into muttonbird territory to count them.

buffy said:

PermeateFree said:

sarahs mum said:

Birdwatchers fear for the fate of thousands of short-tailed shearwaters, also known as mutton birds, which failed to arrive in south-west Victoria at the usual time after their annual migration from the northern hemisphere.
Key points:

For the past 30 years, short-tailed shearwaters, known as mutton birds, have arrived at an island near Port Fairy, Victoria, in late September So far, only a handful of the migratory birds have turned up, out of a usual colony of 40,000 Climate variability or food availability in the northern hemisphere may have delayed the birds’ arrival

Each year, hundreds of thousands of short-tailed shearwaters descend on Victoria’s coastline to breed following a mammoth journey which takes two months to complete.

The birds spend the northern summer around Alaska, before travelling 15,000 kilometres to Australia where they arrive with precision.

For the past 30 years, the south-west Victorian population has arrived at Griffiths Island, near Port Fairy, a day either side of September 22.

But this year, the date came and went without the usual flurry of activity.

Peter Barrand, president of Birdlife Warrnambool, said he had basically set his watch by the shearwaters’ arrival for the past three decades.

more…

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-05/mutton-birds-delayed-migratory-vic-arrival-alarms-birdwatchers/11572220

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Muttonbird is off the menu.

>>There have been numerous reports of bird starvation events in the northern hemisphere over the past five years, including several reports in Alaska and even New York.

According to research published in the journal Science, there are now 2.9 billion — or about 29 per cent — fewer birds in North America now than in 1970.

Alaska’s government-backed National Park Service has reported massive seabird die-offs, also known as wrecks, for five consecutive years.

It’s sparked concern in the southern hemisphere.

“Something’s obviously gone drastically wrong in the arctic — whatever the shearwaters have been feeding on has failed to appear,” Mr Barrand said.

“Autopsies have shown the deaths were all attributed to starvation. And that’s the worrying part about it.

“What’s gone … in the northern hemisphere to stop these birds feeding as they normally do? Is it the dreaded climate change or some other event that’s occurred?”<<

>>But for Warrnambool’s local bird-watching community, that’s a wake-up call of the highest order.

“People have really got to sit up and take notice of this — it’s a really significant event,” Mr Barrand said.

“It’s looking like it’s an increasing trend over the last five years, but this is a very, very serious situation.”<<

The problem for these long range migratory birds is their need of a dependable food supply, but with human habitat destruction and rapid climate change it does not look good for most of these species. IMO we are seeing the beginning of the 6th mass extinction event.

I read that piece. It also said there were reports of the birds streaming past Gabo Island. But it was just one sentence. So maybe they are just late this year.

I saw that too. But I weighed it with the news of the flights being two and half weeks late. And I also wondered which rookery they were heading to. But the whole made me feel that it was time to call off muttonbirding for a year or three. Yeah..I know it is a traditional practice in the bass Strait islands.

mollwollfumble said:

PermeateFree said:

mollwollfumble said:

No. Just ignorance.

Don’t worry moll, I certainly wont hold that against you, but if you want to learn just ask.

Exactly. Thank you. I would claim to be extremely ignorant, but that is too much like a boast. So i will claim to aspire to ordinary levels of ignorance.

The chance of me actually observing, about 7 years ago, an event that made headlines in yesterday’s news is minuscule. There must be billions of events about which i am ignorant.

>>The birds spend the northern summer around Alaska, before travelling 15,000 kilometres to Australia where they arrive with precision.

For the past 30 years, the south-west Victorian population has arrived at Griffiths Island, near Port Fairy, a day either side of September 22.

But this year, the date came and went without the usual flurry of activity.

Peter Barrand, president of Birdlife Warrnambool, said he had basically set his watch by the shearwaters’ arrival for the past three decades.<<

To me whether the birds are just late or not, indicates something has happened other than them stopping off the enjoy themselves on a tropical island surrounded by a severely damaged coral reef. The Arctic has experienced the largest temperature change than any place on Earth, this will affect the activity and availability of the animals of this region, polar bears being a more noticeable example.

Coral has been extensively damaged as temperatures have increased, which can only get worse as temperatures rise in coming years. The reef is a habitat that supports and protects a myriad of other creatures and its health also governs their health; it is therefore highly likely that in this environment many extinctions will eventuate.

Alpine areas are also under threat with hotter and drier conditions killing susceptible vegetation along with all the creatures that depend on them. Therefore is becomes obvious that habitats existing within a very narrow range will be the first to suffer and so will their inhabitants. Mutton birds along with others that need these long migrations, likewise exist in a narrow survival zone, where any disruption along their migratory route will impact them far more than sedentary birds. This is how extinctions begin, with substantial losses of a species that accumulate year after year, until there is a crash with no hope of the species revival.

Another important factor with migratory birds that not only includes modification and/or destruction of their feeding grounds, but the speed of climate change, giving the birds little opportunity to adapt and discover other feeding stops along their journey. The 6th mass extinction event has already started and will progressively spread to more adaptable species as climate conditions worsen.

PermeateFree said:

mollwollfumble said:

PermeateFree said:

Don’t worry moll, I certainly wont hold that against you, but if you want to learn just ask.

Exactly. Thank you. I would claim to be extremely ignorant, but that is too much like a boast. So i will claim to aspire to ordinary levels of ignorance.

The chance of me actually observing, about 7 years ago, an event that made headlines in yesterday’s news is minuscule. There must be billions of events about which i am ignorant.

>>The birds spend the northern summer around Alaska, before travelling 15,000 kilometres to Australia where they arrive with precision.

For the past 30 years, the south-west Victorian population has arrived at Griffiths Island, near Port Fairy, a day either side of September 22.

But this year, the date came and went without the usual flurry of activity.

Peter Barrand, president of Birdlife Warrnambool, said he had basically set his watch by the shearwaters’ arrival for the past three decades.<<

To me whether the birds are just late or not, indicates something has happened other than them stopping off the enjoy themselves on a tropical island surrounded by a severely damaged coral reef. The Arctic has experienced the largest temperature change than any place on Earth, this will affect the activity and availability of the animals of this region, polar bears being a more noticeable example.

Coral has been extensively damaged as temperatures have increased, which can only get worse as temperatures rise in coming years. The reef is a habitat that supports and protects a myriad of other creatures and its health also governs their health; it is therefore highly likely that in this environment many extinctions will eventuate.

Alpine areas are also under threat with hotter and drier conditions killing susceptible vegetation along with all the creatures that depend on them. Therefore is becomes obvious that habitats existing within a very narrow range will be the first to suffer and so will their inhabitants. Mutton birds along with others that need these long migrations, likewise exist in a narrow survival zone, where any disruption along their migratory route will impact them far more than sedentary birds. This is how extinctions begin, with substantial losses of a species that accumulate year after year, until there is a crash with no hope of the species revival.

Another important factor with migratory birds that not only includes modification and/or destruction of their feeding grounds, but the speed of climate change, giving the birds little opportunity to adapt and discover other feeding stops along their journey. The 6th mass extinction event has already started and will progressively spread to more adaptable species as climate conditions worsen.

More likely plague disease. That’s the number one cause of rapid population decline these days. The number two being starvation as you’ve said above.

But for mutton birds it could be number three, artificial lighting. If night flying migrants can’t navigate because of artificial lighting then it’s a disaster.

where are all the mutton birds?
Long time passing…

mollwollfumble said:

PermeateFree said:

mollwollfumble said:

Exactly. Thank you. I would claim to be extremely ignorant, but that is too much like a boast. So i will claim to aspire to ordinary levels of ignorance.

The chance of me actually observing, about 7 years ago, an event that made headlines in yesterday’s news is minuscule. There must be billions of events about which i am ignorant.

>>The birds spend the northern summer around Alaska, before travelling 15,000 kilometres to Australia where they arrive with precision.

For the past 30 years, the south-west Victorian population has arrived at Griffiths Island, near Port Fairy, a day either side of September 22.

But this year, the date came and went without the usual flurry of activity.

Peter Barrand, president of Birdlife Warrnambool, said he had basically set his watch by the shearwaters’ arrival for the past three decades.<<

To me whether the birds are just late or not, indicates something has happened other than them stopping off the enjoy themselves on a tropical island surrounded by a severely damaged coral reef. The Arctic has experienced the largest temperature change than any place on Earth, this will affect the activity and availability of the animals of this region, polar bears being a more noticeable example.

Coral has been extensively damaged as temperatures have increased, which can only get worse as temperatures rise in coming years. The reef is a habitat that supports and protects a myriad of other creatures and its health also governs their health; it is therefore highly likely that in this environment many extinctions will eventuate.

Alpine areas are also under threat with hotter and drier conditions killing susceptible vegetation along with all the creatures that depend on them. Therefore is becomes obvious that habitats existing within a very narrow range will be the first to suffer and so will their inhabitants. Mutton birds along with others that need these long migrations, likewise exist in a narrow survival zone, where any disruption along their migratory route will impact them far more than sedentary birds. This is how extinctions begin, with substantial losses of a species that accumulate year after year, until there is a crash with no hope of the species revival.

Another important factor with migratory birds that not only includes modification and/or destruction of their feeding grounds, but the speed of climate change, giving the birds little opportunity to adapt and discover other feeding stops along their journey. The 6th mass extinction event has already started and will progressively spread to more adaptable species as climate conditions worsen.

More likely plague disease. That’s the number one cause of rapid population decline these days. The number two being starvation as you’ve said above.

But for mutton birds it could be number three, artificial lighting. If night flying migrants can’t navigate because of artificial lighting then it’s a disaster.

Totally ignore everything I said. LOL if it wasn’t so serious.

They could have gone somewhere else.

The shearwater is the most abundant Australian seabird. Approximately 23 million short-tailed shearwaters breed in about 285 colonies in south-eastern Australia from September to April. Eighteen million of these arrive in Tasmania each year. There are known to be at least 167 colonies in Tasmania and an estimated 11.4 million burrows. The largest colony is on Babel Island which has three million burrows. Their colonies are usually found on headlands and islands covered with tussocks and succulent vegetation such as pigface and iceplant. Headlands allow for easy take off and landing.

Early accounts suggest that the population was once considerably higher. In 1798, Matthew Flinders estimated that there were at least one hundred million birds within a single flock sighted in Bass Strait.

https://www.parks.tas.gov.au/?base=5100

Tau.Neutrino said:

They could have gone somewhere else.

Of course, they had a meeting and discussed where they should go and someone said I know of a little deserted island and the all agreed, let go there this year!

From the previous link-
It is possible that krill abundance determines the migration of the species, allowing them to exploit the high concentrations of krill which occur each summer at both polar regions.

Bloody whales. Eating all the krill. (Not to mention bloody people now eating krill)

PermeateFree said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

They could have gone somewhere else.

Of course, they had a meeting and discussed where they should go and someone said I know of a little deserted island and the all agreed, let go there this year!

Maybe they just decided to stay, didn’t want to do all that flying.

ruby said:

From the previous link-
It is possible that krill abundance determines the migration of the species, allowing them to exploit the high concentrations of krill which occur each summer at both polar regions.

Bloody whales. Eating all the krill. (Not to mention bloody people now eating krill)

Krill paper details here:

https://academic.oup.com/plankt/article/24/10/1067/1506616/

Larval krill have been observed to occupy the underside of annual sea ice in the Southern Ocean during winter and are known to feed on ice-associated biota (Garrison et al., 1986; Kottmeier and Sullivan, 1987; Quetin and Ross, 1988; Stretch et al., 1988; Hamner et al., 1989; Daly, 1990; Daly and Macaulay, 1991; Ross and Quetin, 1991; Quetin et al., 1994; Frazer, 1996; Frazer et al., 1997a). Early observations of krill under sea ice were qualitative and the evidence for the importance of sea ice to the development of larval krill was based on their physiological requirements. On physiological grounds, Ross and Quetin suggested that larval krill are obligatory inhabitants of the under-ice habitat and depend on ice-associated biota for winter survival (Ross and Quetin, 1991). In addition, from direct observations of larval krill under sea ice, Hamner et al. suggested that sea ice facilitates the aggregation of larval krill, providing a mechanism for school formation (Hamner et al., 1989).

Aggregations of larval krill (late-stage furcilia are depicted here) tend to occupy upward-facing ice surfaces and/or more structurally complex habitats (see the text) that occur, for example, when pans of sea ice are over-rafted. Note that krill do not generally occupy downward-facing ice surfaces, particularly if there is no additional structural character to the ice.

Maybe warmer temperatures affecting sea-ice structure, especially underwater.

PermeateFree said:

ruby said:

From the previous link-
It is possible that krill abundance determines the migration of the species, allowing them to exploit the high concentrations of krill which occur each summer at both polar regions.

Bloody whales. Eating all the krill. (Not to mention bloody people now eating krill)

Krill paper details here:

https://academic.oup.com/plankt/article/24/10/1067/1506616/

Larval krill have been observed to occupy the underside of annual sea ice in the Southern Ocean during winter and are known to feed on ice-associated biota (Garrison et al., 1986; Kottmeier and Sullivan, 1987; Quetin and Ross, 1988; Stretch et al., 1988; Hamner et al., 1989; Daly, 1990; Daly and Macaulay, 1991; Ross and Quetin, 1991; Quetin et al., 1994; Frazer, 1996; Frazer et al., 1997a). Early observations of krill under sea ice were qualitative and the evidence for the importance of sea ice to the development of larval krill was based on their physiological requirements. On physiological grounds, Ross and Quetin suggested that larval krill are obligatory inhabitants of the under-ice habitat and depend on ice-associated biota for winter survival (Ross and Quetin, 1991). In addition, from direct observations of larval krill under sea ice, Hamner et al. suggested that sea ice facilitates the aggregation of larval krill, providing a mechanism for school formation (Hamner et al., 1989).

Aggregations of larval krill (late-stage furcilia are depicted here) tend to occupy upward-facing ice surfaces and/or more structurally complex habitats (see the text) that occur, for example, when pans of sea ice are over-rafted. Note that krill do not generally occupy downward-facing ice surfaces, particularly if there is no additional structural character to the ice.

Maybe warmer temperatures affecting sea-ice structure, especially underwater.

There’s been some indication that humpback whales are somewhat malnourished because there is less krill available than in the past.

http://www.takepart.com/article/2015/06/18/humpback-whales-exhausted-climate-change

Michael V said:

PermeateFree said:

ruby said:

From the previous link-
It is possible that krill abundance determines the migration of the species, allowing them to exploit the high concentrations of krill which occur each summer at both polar regions.

Bloody whales. Eating all the krill. (Not to mention bloody people now eating krill)

Krill paper details here:

https://academic.oup.com/plankt/article/24/10/1067/1506616/

Larval krill have been observed to occupy the underside of annual sea ice in the Southern Ocean during winter and are known to feed on ice-associated biota (Garrison et al., 1986; Kottmeier and Sullivan, 1987; Quetin and Ross, 1988; Stretch et al., 1988; Hamner et al., 1989; Daly, 1990; Daly and Macaulay, 1991; Ross and Quetin, 1991; Quetin et al., 1994; Frazer, 1996; Frazer et al., 1997a). Early observations of krill under sea ice were qualitative and the evidence for the importance of sea ice to the development of larval krill was based on their physiological requirements. On physiological grounds, Ross and Quetin suggested that larval krill are obligatory inhabitants of the under-ice habitat and depend on ice-associated biota for winter survival (Ross and Quetin, 1991). In addition, from direct observations of larval krill under sea ice, Hamner et al. suggested that sea ice facilitates the aggregation of larval krill, providing a mechanism for school formation (Hamner et al., 1989).

Aggregations of larval krill (late-stage furcilia are depicted here) tend to occupy upward-facing ice surfaces and/or more structurally complex habitats (see the text) that occur, for example, when pans of sea ice are over-rafted. Note that krill do not generally occupy downward-facing ice surfaces, particularly if there is no additional structural character to the ice.

Maybe warmer temperatures affecting sea-ice structure, especially underwater.

There’s been some indication that humpback whales are somewhat malnourished because there is less krill available than in the past.

http://www.takepart.com/article/2015/06/18/humpback-whales-exhausted-climate-change

There you go. Let’s all celebrate how well continuing growth and exploitation is going, and how a so called intelligent species is dealing with the warning signs.

Michael V said:

PermeateFree said:

ruby said:

From the previous link-
It is possible that krill abundance determines the migration of the species, allowing them to exploit the high concentrations of krill which occur each summer at both polar regions.

Bloody whales. Eating all the krill. (Not to mention bloody people now eating krill)

Krill paper details here:

https://academic.oup.com/plankt/article/24/10/1067/1506616/

Larval krill have been observed to occupy the underside of annual sea ice in the Southern Ocean during winter and are known to feed on ice-associated biota (Garrison et al., 1986; Kottmeier and Sullivan, 1987; Quetin and Ross, 1988; Stretch et al., 1988; Hamner et al., 1989; Daly, 1990; Daly and Macaulay, 1991; Ross and Quetin, 1991; Quetin et al., 1994; Frazer, 1996; Frazer et al., 1997a). Early observations of krill under sea ice were qualitative and the evidence for the importance of sea ice to the development of larval krill was based on their physiological requirements. On physiological grounds, Ross and Quetin suggested that larval krill are obligatory inhabitants of the under-ice habitat and depend on ice-associated biota for winter survival (Ross and Quetin, 1991). In addition, from direct observations of larval krill under sea ice, Hamner et al. suggested that sea ice facilitates the aggregation of larval krill, providing a mechanism for school formation (Hamner et al., 1989).

Aggregations of larval krill (late-stage furcilia are depicted here) tend to occupy upward-facing ice surfaces and/or more structurally complex habitats (see the text) that occur, for example, when pans of sea ice are over-rafted. Note that krill do not generally occupy downward-facing ice surfaces, particularly if there is no additional structural character to the ice.

Maybe warmer temperatures affecting sea-ice structure, especially underwater.

There’s been some indication that humpback whales are somewhat malnourished because there is less krill available than in the past.

http://www.takepart.com/article/2015/06/18/humpback-whales-exhausted-climate-change

Sea-ice is a major habitat at the poles and which is under considerable change due to climate warming, so the animals relying upon it and the wildlife it supports are obviously endangered.

PermeateFree said:

Michael V said:

PermeateFree said:

Krill paper details here:

https://academic.oup.com/plankt/article/24/10/1067/1506616/

Larval krill have been observed to occupy the underside of annual sea ice in the Southern Ocean during winter and are known to feed on ice-associated biota (Garrison et al., 1986; Kottmeier and Sullivan, 1987; Quetin and Ross, 1988; Stretch et al., 1988; Hamner et al., 1989; Daly, 1990; Daly and Macaulay, 1991; Ross and Quetin, 1991; Quetin et al., 1994; Frazer, 1996; Frazer et al., 1997a). Early observations of krill under sea ice were qualitative and the evidence for the importance of sea ice to the development of larval krill was based on their physiological requirements. On physiological grounds, Ross and Quetin suggested that larval krill are obligatory inhabitants of the under-ice habitat and depend on ice-associated biota for winter survival (Ross and Quetin, 1991). In addition, from direct observations of larval krill under sea ice, Hamner et al. suggested that sea ice facilitates the aggregation of larval krill, providing a mechanism for school formation (Hamner et al., 1989).

Aggregations of larval krill (late-stage furcilia are depicted here) tend to occupy upward-facing ice surfaces and/or more structurally complex habitats (see the text) that occur, for example, when pans of sea ice are over-rafted. Note that krill do not generally occupy downward-facing ice surfaces, particularly if there is no additional structural character to the ice.

Maybe warmer temperatures affecting sea-ice structure, especially underwater.

There’s been some indication that humpback whales are somewhat malnourished because there is less krill available than in the past.

http://www.takepart.com/article/2015/06/18/humpback-whales-exhausted-climate-change

Sea-ice is a major habitat at the poles and which is under considerable change due to climate warming, so the animals relying upon it and the wildlife it supports are obviously endangered.

The ice formation the krill require.

There were a couple of reports of mutton birds on one of my Victorian facebook groups, so there are at least two of them left in the world.

They’ve arrived on Phillip Island

I’ve seen them streaming past Green Cape (NSW) and Point Ricardo (East Gippsland, VIC) recently.

Animals of the Ice: Antarctic Krill

Happening Now: Arctic Sea Ice Sets Record Low

Ogmog said:

Animals of the Ice: Antarctic Krill

Happening Now: Arctic Sea Ice Sets Record Low

The increase in atmospheric CO2 has led to the proliferation of whale feeding grounds. Not much for the Antarctic, some around the Arctic, but most around continental margins.

The same for muttonbird feeding grounds? I don’t know enough about muttonbird feeding habits to say.

mollwollfumble said:

Ogmog said:

Animals of the Ice: Antarctic Krill

Happening Now: Arctic Sea Ice Sets Record Low

The increase in atmospheric CO2 has led to the proliferation of whale feeding grounds. Not much for the Antarctic, some around the Arctic, but most around continental margins.

The same for muttonbird feeding grounds? I don’t know enough about muttonbird feeding habits to say.

my point was to point out that
A) The loss of Arctic Ice Cap
B) That Krill need the icecaps to breed

why are the Whales are underweight,
and Mutton Birds disappearing(starving?)

No Ice = No Krill
Mutton Birds = Canary In The Coalmine
the base of our “Food Web” is collapsing
just as higher populations will be depending
upon all seafood for their very existence.

invest in Soylant Corp. futures ;-)

Still zero mutton birds on my beach this year.

https://www.audubon.org/news/thousands-dead-seabirds-washed-alaskas-shores-again-year

Finally, two dead mutton birds on the beach yesterday, when previous years can see hundreds over the course of several weeks.
I wonder if there will be any more or if that will be it.

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

mollwollfumble said:

It means that I can’t find the muttonbird thread.

What month did you post it?

https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/?main=https%3A//tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/topics/12103/

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-11-08/emergency-level-fires-burn-through-nsw-live-blog/11687126

mollwollfumble said:

sarahs mum said:

mollwollfumble said:

Can’t find muttonbird thread so posting here.

Mutton birds this migration season.

Map around Melbourne area.
https://ebird.org/map/shtshe?neg=true&env.minX=144.25392150878906&env.minY=-38.628821482444216&env.maxX=145.75767517089844&env.maxY=-37.56541382404999&zh=true&gp=false&ev=Z&mr=8-11&bmo=8&emo=11&yr=cur

Data from map. Within past 30 days.
5000 at Point Addis
1000 at Koonya Beach
500 at Cape Schank
2000 at Penguin Parade
1000 at Phillip Island Rd
2000 at Cape Wollomai

Map from Sunshine Coast to Kangaroo Island via Hobart. Recent muttonbird sightings. Click or zoom in for more details.
https://ebird.org/map/shtshe?neg=true&env.minX=144.25392150878906&env.minY=-38.628821482444216&env.maxX=145.75767517089844&env.maxY=-37.56541382404999&zh=true&gp=false&ev=Z&mr=8-11&bmo=8&emo=11&yr=cur

What does this information mean?

It means that I can’t find the muttonbird thread.

PermeateFree said:

Island near Port Fairy, Victoria, usually has around 40,000 nesting birds, but as of 28/10/19, only 500 have turned up. The main breeding areas are islands off Tasmania, so results from these areas would be more realistic.

PermeateFree said:

sarahs mum said:

mollwollfumble said:

Can’t find muttonbird thread so posting here.

Mutton birds this migration season.

Map around Melbourne area.
https://ebird.org/map/shtshe?neg=true&env.minX=144.25392150878906&env.minY=-38.628821482444216&env.maxX=145.75767517089844&env.maxY=-37.56541382404999&zh=true&gp=false&ev=Z&mr=8-11&bmo=8&emo=11&yr=cur

Data from map. Within past 30 days.
5000 at Point Addis
1000 at Koonya Beach
500 at Cape Schank
2000 at Penguin Parade
1000 at Phillip Island Rd
2000 at Cape Wollomai

Map from Sunshine Coast to Kangaroo Island via Hobart. Recent muttonbird sightings. Click or zoom in for more details.
https://ebird.org/map/shtshe?neg=true&env.minX=144.25392150878906&env.minY=-38.628821482444216&env.maxX=145.75767517089844&env.maxY=-37.56541382404999&zh=true&gp=false&ev=Z&mr=8-11&bmo=8&emo=11&yr=cur

What does this information mean?

Island near Port Fairy, Victoria, usually has around 40,000 nesting birds, but as of 28/10/19, only 500 have turned up. The main breeding areas are islands off Tasmania, so results from these areas would be more realistic.

roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

Island near Port Fairy, Victoria, usually has around 40,000 nesting birds, but as of 28/10/19, only 500 have turned up. The main breeding areas are islands off Tasmania, so results from these areas would be more realistic.

Excellent. Thanks. Let’s have a look at the current situation around Port Fairy and Tasmania. Using ebird reports.

Yes.

(2019) 500 at Griffiths Island off Port Fairy, as reported in the OP.
2000 seen there in Feb this year

(2018) Last year in Oct-Nov, none at all seen there.
(2017) Year before in Oct-Nov, 100 seen there.
(2016) in Oct-Nov, only 8 birds seen there.
(2015) in Oct-Nov, 400 seen there.
(2014) in Oct-Nov, only 1 bird seen there.
(2013) in Oct-Nov, no birds seen there.
(2012) in Oct-Nov, no birds seen there.
etc.

When I quote “no birds seen” I don’t mean “no observations”, I mean that observers went to Griffiths Island every year to see muttonbirds and saw none that year.

Or to put it another way, the number of Muttonbirds seen on Griffiths Island this year is more than ever before.

Around Tasmania?

Eaglehawk Neck Pelagic trip, due east of Hobart.
3 Nov 2019, 7000 muttonbirds seen
31 Oct 2019, 5500 muttonbirds seen

mollwollfumble said:

roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

Island near Port Fairy, Victoria, usually has around 40,000 nesting birds, but as of 28/10/19, only 500 have turned up. The main breeding areas are islands off Tasmania, so results from these areas would be more realistic.

Excellent. Thanks. Let’s have a look at the current situation around Port Fairy and Tasmania. Using ebird reports.

Yes.

(2019) 500 at Griffiths Island off Port Fairy, as reported in the OP.
2000 seen there in Feb this year

(2018) Last year in Oct-Nov, none at all seen there.
(2017) Year before in Oct-Nov, 100 seen there.
(2016) in Oct-Nov, only 8 birds seen there.
(2015) in Oct-Nov, 400 seen there.
(2014) in Oct-Nov, only 1 bird seen there.
(2013) in Oct-Nov, no birds seen there.
(2012) in Oct-Nov, no birds seen there.
etc.

When I quote “no birds seen” I don’t mean “no observations”, I mean that observers went to Griffiths Island every year to see muttonbirds and saw none that year.

Or to put it another way, the number of Muttonbirds seen on Griffiths Island this year is more than ever before.

Around Tasmania?

Eaglehawk Neck Pelagic trip, due east of Hobart.
3 Nov 2019, 7000 muttonbirds seen
31 Oct 2019, 5500 muttonbirds seen

Gezz you get on my nerves.

The 40,000 breeding birds normally turn up on Griffiths Island in September and have doing so for over 30 years. Your fucking stupid comments show the level of intellect you put into environmental problems. Please go and get fucked!!!

PermeateFree said:

mollwollfumble said:

roughbarked said:

Excellent. Thanks. Let’s have a look at the current situation around Port Fairy and Tasmania. Using ebird reports.

Yes.

(2019) 500 at Griffiths Island off Port Fairy, as reported in the OP.
2000 seen there in Feb this year

(2018) Last year in Oct-Nov, none at all seen there.
(2017) Year before in Oct-Nov, 100 seen there.
(2016) in Oct-Nov, only 8 birds seen there.
(2015) in Oct-Nov, 400 seen there.
(2014) in Oct-Nov, only 1 bird seen there.
(2013) in Oct-Nov, no birds seen there.
(2012) in Oct-Nov, no birds seen there.
etc.

When I quote “no birds seen” I don’t mean “no observations”, I mean that observers went to Griffiths Island every year to see muttonbirds and saw none that year.

Or to put it another way, the number of Muttonbirds seen on Griffiths Island this year is more than ever before.

Around Tasmania?

Eaglehawk Neck Pelagic trip, due east of Hobart.
3 Nov 2019, 7000 muttonbirds seen
31 Oct 2019, 5500 muttonbirds seen

Gezz you get on my nerves.

The 40,000 breeding birds normally turn up on Griffiths Island in September and have doing so for over 30 years. Your fucking stupid comments show the level of intellect you put into environmental problems. Please go and get fucked!!!

Here some more information for you fuckwit!

>>The largest population in the world (2.8 million pairs – about 12% of the species) seems to be located on Babel Island. << That is off NE Tasmania!

PermeateFree said:

PermeateFree said:

mollwollfumble said:

Excellent. Thanks. Let’s have a look at the current situation around Port Fairy and Tasmania. Using ebird reports.

Yes.

(2019) 500 at Griffiths Island off Port Fairy, as reported in the OP.
2000 seen there in Feb this year

(2018) Last year in Oct-Nov, none at all seen there.
(2017) Year before in Oct-Nov, 100 seen there.
(2016) in Oct-Nov, only 8 birds seen there.
(2015) in Oct-Nov, 400 seen there.
(2014) in Oct-Nov, only 1 bird seen there.
(2013) in Oct-Nov, no birds seen there.
(2012) in Oct-Nov, no birds seen there.
etc.

When I quote “no birds seen” I don’t mean “no observations”, I mean that observers went to Griffiths Island every year to see muttonbirds and saw none that year.

Or to put it another way, the number of Muttonbirds seen on Griffiths Island this year is more than ever before.

Around Tasmania?

Eaglehawk Neck Pelagic trip, due east of Hobart.
3 Nov 2019, 7000 muttonbirds seen
31 Oct 2019, 5500 muttonbirds seen

Gezz you get on my nerves.

The 40,000 breeding birds normally turn up on Griffiths Island in September and have doing so for over 30 years. Your fucking stupid comments show the level of intellect you put into environmental problems. Please go and get fucked!!!

Here some more information for you fuckwit!

>>The largest population in the world (2.8 million pairs – about 12% of the species) seems to be located on Babel Island. << That is off NE Tasmania!

And the lesson from that boys and girls, is that when doing research ALWAYS go back to the raw data.

And the raw data says: “More mutton birds seen on Griffiths Island this spring than in the previous ten years”.

mollwollfumble said:

PermeateFree said:

PermeateFree said:

Gezz you get on my nerves.

The 40,000 breeding birds normally turn up on Griffiths Island in September and have doing so for over 30 years. Your fucking stupid comments show the level of intellect you put into environmental problems. Please go and get fucked!!!

Here some more information for you fuckwit!

>>The largest population in the world (2.8 million pairs – about 12% of the species) seems to be located on Babel Island. << That is off NE Tasmania!

And the lesson from that boys and girls, is that when doing research ALWAYS go back to the raw data.

And the raw data says: “More mutton birds seen on Griffiths Island this spring than in the previous ten years”.

sucks air through teeth

This ain’t gunna end well.

sibeen said:

mollwollfumble said:

PermeateFree said:

Here some more information for you fuckwit!

>>The largest population in the world (2.8 million pairs – about 12% of the species) seems to be located on Babel Island. << That is off NE Tasmania!

And the lesson from that boys and girls, is that when doing research ALWAYS go back to the raw data.

And the raw data says: “More mutton birds seen on Griffiths Island this spring than in the previous ten years”.

sucks air through teeth

This ain’t gunna end well.

LOL

sibeen said:

mollwollfumble said:

PermeateFree said:

Here some more information for you fuckwit!

>>The largest population in the world (2.8 million pairs – about 12% of the species) seems to be located on Babel Island. << That is off NE Tasmania!

And the lesson from that boys and girls, is that when doing research ALWAYS go back to the raw data.

And the raw data says: “More mutton birds seen on Griffiths Island this spring than in the previous ten years”.

sucks air through teeth

This ain’t gunna end well.

This is very weird, it’s not like PF to go off halfcocked

mollwollfumble said:

PermeateFree said:

PermeateFree said:

Gezz you get on my nerves.

The 40,000 breeding birds normally turn up on Griffiths Island in September and have doing so for over 30 years. Your fucking stupid comments show the level of intellect you put into environmental problems. Please go and get fucked!!!

Here some more information for you fuckwit!

>>The largest population in the world (2.8 million pairs – about 12% of the species) seems to be located on Babel Island. << That is off NE Tasmania!

And the lesson from that boys and girls, is that when doing research ALWAYS go back to the raw data.

And the raw data says: “More mutton birds seen on Griffiths Island this spring than in the previous ten years”.

Your data is shit!

Those ebird reports (your raw data) is from amateur bird watches, most of whom report little more than birds in their backyard. The data I submitted was from a birding group (locals) that have been collecting data over a thirty year period. The reason your figures are up the spout is muttonbirds ONLY come back to roost in the late evening or at night, and I would very much doubt if your data collectors were anywhere near the Island at that time. Try using your brain if it is not entirely addled.

dv said:

sibeen said:

mollwollfumble said:

And the lesson from that boys and girls, is that when doing research ALWAYS go back to the raw data.

And the raw data says: “More mutton birds seen on Griffiths Island this spring than in the previous ten years”.

sucks air through teeth

This ain’t gunna end well.

This is very weird, it’s not like PF to go off halfcocked

Looking in the mirror again dv?

PermeateFree said:

mollwollfumble said:

PermeateFree said:

Here some more information for you fuckwit!

>>The largest population in the world (2.8 million pairs – about 12% of the species) seems to be located on Babel Island. << That is off NE Tasmania!

And the lesson from that boys and girls, is that when doing research ALWAYS go back to the raw data.

And the raw data says: “More mutton birds seen on Griffiths Island this spring than in the previous ten years”.

Your data is shit!

Those ebird reports (your raw data) is from amateur bird watches, most of whom report little more than birds in their backyard. The data I submitted was from a birding group (locals) that have been collecting data over a thirty year period. The reason your figures are up the spout is muttonbirds ONLY come back to roost in the late evening or at night, and I would very much doubt if your data collectors were anywhere near the Island at that time. Try using your brain if it is not entirely addled.

These ebird reports, in particular the 500 bird one this year, are exactly what the author of the article linked in the original post is quoting. Exactly.

So if you want to claim that the original article on which this thread is based is a shit – go ahead.

PermeateFree said:

Looking in the mirror again dv?

No reflection on you of couse.

mollwollfumble said:

PermeateFree said:

mollwollfumble said:

And the lesson from that boys and girls, is that when doing research ALWAYS go back to the raw data.

And the raw data says: “More mutton birds seen on Griffiths Island this spring than in the previous ten years”.

Your data is shit!

Those ebird reports (your raw data) is from amateur bird watches, most of whom report little more than birds in their backyard. The data I submitted was from a birding group (locals) that have been collecting data over a thirty year period. The reason your figures are up the spout is muttonbirds ONLY come back to roost in the late evening or at night, and I would very much doubt if your data collectors were anywhere near the Island at that time. Try using your brain if it is not entirely addled.

These ebird reports, in particular the 500 bird one this year, are exactly what the author of the article linked in the original post is quoting. Exactly.

So if you want to claim that the original article on which this thread is based is a shit – go ahead.

>>From: sarahs mum
ID: 1445779
Subject: Where are all the mutton birds?

Birdwatchers fear for the fate of thousands of short-tailed shearwaters, also known as mutton birds, which failed to arrive in south-west Victoria at the usual time after their annual migration from the northern hemisphere.
Key points:
For the past 30 years, short-tailed shearwaters, known as mutton birds, have arrived at an island near Port Fairy, Victoria, in late September So far, only a handful of the migratory birds have turned up, out of a usual colony of 40,000 Climate variability or food availability in the northern hemisphere may have delayed the birds’ arrival

Each year, hundreds of thousands of short-tailed shearwaters descend on Victoria’s coastline to breed following a mammoth journey which takes two months to complete.

The birds spend the northern summer around Alaska, before travelling 15,000 kilometres to Australia where they arrive with precision.

For the past 30 years, the south-west Victorian population has arrived at Griffiths Island, near Port Fairy, a day either side of September 22.

But this year, the date came and went without the usual flurry of activity.

Peter Barrand, president of Birdlife Warrnambool, said he had basically set his watch by the shearwaters’ arrival for the past three decades.

more…

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-05/mutton-birds-delayed-migratory-vic-arrival-alarms-birdwatchers/11572220<<

THE OP FOR YOU TO BLOODY-WELL CHECK!!!

PermeateFree said:

dv said:

sibeen said:

sucks air through teeth

This ain’t gunna end well.

This is very weird, it’s not like PF to go off halfcocked

Looking in the mirror again dv?

Look no one sayinng that DV isn’t a cock-head

Witty Rejoinder said:

PermeateFree said:

dv said:

This is very weird, it’s not like PF to go off halfcocked

Looking in the mirror again dv?

Look no one sayinng that DV isn’t a cock-head

DV isn’t a cock-head.

sarahs mum said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Look no one sayinng that DV isn’t a cock-head

DV isn’t a cock-head.

Checkmate!

sarahs mum said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

PermeateFree said:

Looking in the mirror again dv?

Look no one sayinng that DV isn’t a cock-head

DV isn’t a cock-head.

I really don’t know what to say… I will counter with articles that call into question DV’s politics re. Corbyn…

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>>> Mystery surrounds why hundreds of dead birds have wash up on Sydney’s beaches – as experts say something is going ‘drastically wrong’ and declare a crisis
Charlie Moore For Daily Mail Australia
4 days ago

a group of people on a beach: Hundreds of dead birds are washing up on Sydney’s iconic beaches. Pictured: The corpses of short-tailed shearwaters on an Australian beach in October© Provided by Associated Newspapers Limited Hundreds of dead birds are washing up on Sydney’s iconic beaches. Pictured: The corpses of short-tailed shearwaters on an Australian beach in October Hundreds of dead birds are washing up on Sydney’s iconic beaches.

The corpses of short-tailed shearwatershave been spotted at several shorelines including Bondi, Manly and Cronulla.

The birds are migrating back to southern Australia to breed after spending the summer in Alaska.

But, according to experts, a higher number than usual are dying on the way due to a lack of food.

The birds need to be at full strength to make the 14,000km trip over the Pacific but the krill and other fish they feed on have apparently dwindled due to sea temperatures rising.

Each year around 30,000 birds land at Griffiths Island at Port Fairy in Victoria but this time only half that number have made it, according to Peter Barrand, the president of BirdLife Warrnambool.

Explaining why, he told Yahoo News: ‘Water temperatures are rising, the fish shearwaters feed on are not coming into the shallows.

‘There’s certainly something that’s going drastically wrong’.
a boat sitting on top of a sandy beach: Two shearwaters are dead on the sand next to a lifeguard tower at Bondi Beach© Provided by Associated Newspapers Limited Two shearwaters are dead on the sand next to a lifeguard tower at Bondi Beach
The short-tailed shearwater

The Short-tailed Shearwater is Australia’s most numerous seabird.

During breeding season, millions converge on many small islands from NSW to Western Australia, with their stronghold in Bass Strait.

After their chicks are large enough to fend for themselves, the adults leave the breeding islands and migrate north-east, flying on a broad front through the central Pacific Ocean, where immense numbers were seen by Captain Cook.

They spend the southern winter at sea in the northern Pacific, off Japan, Siberia and Alaska.

Source: BirdLife Australia

BirdLife Australia has rendered the problem a ‘crisis’.

In a statement on its website, the group says: ‘For the fifth consecutive year, the sea surface temperatures off Alaska have been unusually warm, which has led to a dire shortage of the shearwaters’ marine prey, resulting in thousands of dead shearwaters being washed ashore along Alaska’s beaches.

‘According to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, they died of starvation.

‘It wasn’t a single event, though; instead it was a series of catastrophic die-offs.

‘Starting in late June, these die-offs continued along different sections of the Alaskan coast, occurring progressively further south, through into August.

‘Numerous shearwaters also washed up on Russia’s Chukotka Peninsula as well.

‘Although many thousands of birds were found dead and dying on the beach, this is likely the tip of the iceberg.’

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/mystery-surrounds-why-hundreds-of-dead-birds-have-wash-up-on-sydneys-beaches-as-experts-say-something-is-going-drastically-wrong-and-declare-a-crisis/ar-BBWUMAm

PermeateFree said:

Transferred chat post from sm.

>>> Mystery surrounds why hundreds of dead birds have wash up on Sydney’s beaches – as experts say something is going ‘drastically wrong’ and declare a crisis
Charlie Moore For Daily Mail Australia
4 days ago

a group of people on a beach: Hundreds of dead birds are washing up on Sydney’s iconic beaches. Pictured: The corpses of short-tailed shearwaters on an Australian beach in October© Provided by Associated Newspapers Limited Hundreds of dead birds are washing up on Sydney’s iconic beaches. Pictured: The corpses of short-tailed shearwaters on an Australian beach in October Hundreds of dead birds are washing up on Sydney’s iconic beaches.

The corpses of short-tailed shearwatershave been spotted at several shorelines including Bondi, Manly and Cronulla.

The birds are migrating back to southern Australia to breed after spending the summer in Alaska.

But, according to experts, a higher number than usual are dying on the way due to a lack of food.

The birds need to be at full strength to make the 14,000km trip over the Pacific but the krill and other fish they feed on have apparently dwindled due to sea temperatures rising.

Each year around 30,000 birds land at Griffiths Island at Port Fairy in Victoria but this time only half that number have made it, according to Peter Barrand, the president of BirdLife Warrnambool.

Explaining why, he told Yahoo News: ‘Water temperatures are rising, the fish shearwaters feed on are not coming into the shallows.

‘There’s certainly something that’s going drastically wrong’.
a boat sitting on top of a sandy beach: Two shearwaters are dead on the sand next to a lifeguard tower at Bondi Beach© Provided by Associated Newspapers Limited Two shearwaters are dead on the sand next to a lifeguard tower at Bondi Beach
The short-tailed shearwater

The Short-tailed Shearwater is Australia’s most numerous seabird.

During breeding season, millions converge on many small islands from NSW to Western Australia, with their stronghold in Bass Strait.

After their chicks are large enough to fend for themselves, the adults leave the breeding islands and migrate north-east, flying on a broad front through the central Pacific Ocean, where immense numbers were seen by Captain Cook.

They spend the southern winter at sea in the northern Pacific, off Japan, Siberia and Alaska.

Source: BirdLife Australia

BirdLife Australia has rendered the problem a ‘crisis’.

In a statement on its website, the group says: ‘For the fifth consecutive year, the sea surface temperatures off Alaska have been unusually warm, which has led to a dire shortage of the shearwaters’ marine prey, resulting in thousands of dead shearwaters being washed ashore along Alaska’s beaches.

‘According to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, they died of starvation.

‘It wasn’t a single event, though; instead it was a series of catastrophic die-offs.

‘Starting in late June, these die-offs continued along different sections of the Alaskan coast, occurring progressively further south, through into August.

‘Numerous shearwaters also washed up on Russia’s Chukotka Peninsula as well.

‘Although many thousands of birds were found dead and dying on the beach, this is likely the tip of the iceberg.’

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/mystery-surrounds-why-hundreds-of-dead-birds-have-wash-up-on-sydneys-beaches-as-experts-say-something-is-going-drastically-wrong-and-declare-a-crisis/ar-BBWUMAm

Thanks Permeate. :)

Wonder how many species are affected like this already.

Probably far more than we know of.

Bubblecar said:

Wonder how many species are affected like this already.

Probably far more than we know of.

All migratory species, plus others that must travel long distances (especially seabirds) to obtain food.