Date: 15/10/2019 09:38:03
From: transition
ID: 1449004
Subject: a foot on your shoulder

ought be a word for it, but doubt ever will be, the sensation someone’s got a foot on your shoulder, extracting something, in the territory of intangibles

it’s related social elevation, some sort of climbing, certainly comparative social mechanisms of mind at work

seems related enthusiasm for the obvious, psychological reinforcement from.

it’s a stealthy beast, appears amongst apparent good intentions frequently, shared or the sharing of good intentions, though you’d have to look hard and brave an at least part contradicting view, counter to it being easily sharable and accepted, to see it

the more vulnerable and unfortunate the easier perhaps to sneak up with good intentions, very modestly expressed in ‘reality’ perhaps, a worldly reality maybe.

everyone has a brain the size of a planet today, since interconnectedness became fashionable, some sort of super-consciousness emerged.

but i’m sure a foot on anothers’ shoulder well predates electronic interconnectedness, or even books

so i’m back on the african savanna, in the ancestral environment for a moment, again, for a visit, the clouds are the same, sky blue between, and nights dark. Babies cry the same. A lot of things are the same, apparently independent of culture and learning

intangibles predate even ideas of God, probably inspired concepts of God

psychological mechanisms are largely intangible, so it could be said the more concrete reality people agree about, the more tangible reality is built or generated from intangibles. To get through that there has to be tricks, patches to make it work, bridging ideas, views asserted that require a complementary authority

people steal things all the time, defining illegal theft leaves a vast territory of legal theft to operate in, protects it

all humans are thieves, without exception

would life be worth living if there wasn’t plenty to pinch?

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Date: 15/10/2019 11:00:33
From: Dropbear
ID: 1449008
Subject: re: a foot on your shoulder

what?

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Date: 15/10/2019 11:05:15
From: Ian
ID: 1449009
Subject: re: a foot on your shoulder

Gravity’ll weigh yer down.

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Date: 15/10/2019 20:57:20
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1449221
Subject: re: a foot on your shoulder

> the sensation someone’s got a foot on your shoulder

I know a really good psychologist who uses dolls to redefine the perception of relationships by downtrodden patients.

He helps pdople to get out from under, and stand on the shoulders of those that have gone before, such as family members alive and dead.

It comes under the general umbrella of “resourcing”.

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Date: 15/10/2019 21:01:36
From: dv
ID: 1449223
Subject: re: a foot on your shoulder

Are you okay, trans? Everything alright at home?

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Date: 15/10/2019 21:30:39
From: transition
ID: 1449224
Subject: re: a foot on your shoulder

dv said:


Are you okay, trans? Everything alright at home?

i’m developing a theory, which has to do with the conversion of intangibles to tangibles, which everyone does.

exploring variously the mischief, and hostility to intangibles

I sketched it out a bit rough in the OP, in a hurry, in fact rough might be too generous, perhaps dogs’ breakfast comes nearer

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Date: 15/10/2019 22:38:25
From: transition
ID: 1449229
Subject: re: a foot on your shoulder

i’ll try applying the idea, see how it goes

just a dumb thought experiment, consider Hitler’s rants, designs, ideas, the force of them to be essentially motivated by a hostility toward intangibles, of the social world i’m meaning, mostly. You could say the (imposition of) ideology steers intangibles

it seems to me much of liberty and freedom not only exist of, but originate from intangibles (respect of, and for). Operate in territory that can’t be defined, can’t be held and examined.

so the theory goes that Hitler for whatever reason despised intangibles, forcibly transformed them, notably focusing on jews, gays, gypsies, that sort of thing, and further compensated by territorial expansion, invading other countries

so i’ve wondered how hostile our own culture might be toward intangibles, which has the problem that if you look for it you’re likely to find it, and confirm its existence, so really that sort of leaves me to disprove it could exist (probably from the position it doesn’t exist)

examples that strongly indicate it is unlikely to be the case, things that are unlikely to exist if it were the case

my immediate impression is that’s no easy task of something related intangibles, involving a hostility toward intangibles.

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Date: 16/10/2019 15:42:26
From: transition
ID: 1449471
Subject: re: a foot on your shoulder

there may be a way into this, for a a look, possibly yield SFA, but whatever

internal mental states can be considered intangible, certainly other peoples

could be three states related sleep, including twilight states

of wakefulness there’s quite a few probably, and graded

I could ask if mental states are properly represented in regular every day language, or subject to stereotypes, let’s say a narrow casting inclining a two-state model around contented/discontented, latter lending to normative and pathologizing forces

the truth is probably that there’s a range of rest state or equilibrium mental states more resembling indifference, which geniuses that enjoy control and steering of may characterize as apathy for others

try a straightup, honest, born again I don’t care, it’s refreshing. It’s a larrikin idea, now get back in your box

wandered a bit there, from psychological correctness, a study of repression call it

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Date: 16/10/2019 15:56:47
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1449475
Subject: re: a foot on your shoulder

transition said:


there may be a way into this, for a a look, possibly yield SFA, but whatever

internal mental states can be considered intangible, certainly other peoples

could be three states related sleep, including twilight states

of wakefulness there’s quite a few probably, and graded

I could ask if mental states are properly represented in regular every day language, or subject to stereotypes, let’s say a narrow casting inclining a two-state model around contented/discontented, latter lending to normative and pathologizing forces

the truth is probably that there’s a range of rest state or equilibrium mental states more resembling indifference, which geniuses that enjoy control and steering of may characterize as apathy for others

try a straightup, honest, born again I don’t care, it’s refreshing. It’s a larrikin idea, now get back in your box

wandered a bit there, from psychological correctness, a study of repression call it

> try a straightup, honest, born again I don’t care, it’s refreshing. It’s a larrikin idea, now get back in your box.

It’s a lie. It’s always a lie. But you’re right, it makes me smile.

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