Date: 26/10/2009 08:34:29
From: Rook
ID: 68548
Subject: Creeper

Morning everyone,

I have 2 × 5000 gallon water tanks that we want to screen out, so i’m after some creepers that will cover an area 2.4 Meters high x 6 – 7 meters

Something nice and hardy that requires minimal water once established and also low maintenance

How many plants would i need to cover that size area ?

Rook

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Date: 26/10/2009 08:47:54
From: roughbarked
ID: 68549
Subject: re: Creeper

Rook said:


Morning everyone,

I have 2 × 5000 gallon water tanks that we want to screen out, so i’m after some creepers that will cover an area 2.4 Meters high x 6 – 7 meters

Something nice and hardy that requires minimal water once established and also low maintenance

How many plants would i need to cover that size area ?

Rook

Pandorea pandorana., two maybe three plants but one would do most of it

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Date: 26/10/2009 09:04:29
From: pepe
ID: 68551
Subject: re: Creeper

old mans beard – clematis aristata – it is native to s.e. australia.

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Date: 26/10/2009 09:10:56
From: roughbarked
ID: 68553
Subject: re: Creeper

pepe said:


old mans beard – clematis aristata – it is native to s.e. australia.

yes so is Wonga vine.. but Ol man’s beard does not grow as vigorously

Also if it is dry country.. why not try some bush banana? Marsdenia australis
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Date: 26/10/2009 09:16:20
From: pepe
ID: 68554
Subject: re: Creeper

roughbarked said:


pepe said:

old mans beard – clematis aristata – it is native to s.e. australia.

yes so is Wonga vine.. but Ol man’s beard does not grow as vigorously Also if it is dry country.. why not try some bush banana? Marsdenia australis

rook’s in tullarook – just north of the big M.
the clematis is sensational here – not a weed and good for native wildlife – one of the stars of nuriootpa’s native bush gardens. lovely, fine white webbing as flowers this time of year.
two or four plants will do it.

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Date: 26/10/2009 09:21:41
From: Longy
ID: 68557
Subject: re: Creeper

rook’s in tullarook – just north of the big M.

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Maccas?

Just had a look at that plant. Not bad is it!
I was previously unaware of it.
The wonga vine could be my choice for the same job where i live.
Trouble is, i have a hard time looking past a passionfruit or something i can eat. Just can’t help myself.
I’d probably plant a bluddy choko!

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Date: 26/10/2009 09:24:40
From: Happy Potter
ID: 68562
Subject: re: Creeper

Rook said:


Morning everyone,

I have 2 × 5000 gallon water tanks that we want to screen out, so i’m after some creepers that will cover an area 2.4 Meters high x 6 – 7 meters

Something nice and hardy that requires minimal water once established and also low maintenance

How many plants would i need to cover that size area ?

Rook

Grow a food plant! Passionfruit eg.

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Date: 26/10/2009 09:26:33
From: Dinetta
ID: 68563
Subject: re: Creeper

Bush banana:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marsdenia_australis

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Date: 26/10/2009 09:27:29
From: roughbarked
ID: 68564
Subject: re: Creeper

Clematis is all over the mallee here too..

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Date: 26/10/2009 09:27:55
From: Dinetta
ID: 68565
Subject: re: Creeper

Bush banana here too…

http://www.desertknowledgecrc.com.au/research/bushproducts/DKCRC_Bush%20Food_IS-3_Bush%20Banana_July09.pdf

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Date: 26/10/2009 09:29:15
From: roughbarked
ID: 68566
Subject: re: Creeper

Dinetta said:


Bush banana here too…

http://www.desertknowledgecrc.com.au/research/bushproducts/DKCRC_Bush%20Food_IS-3_Bush%20Banana_July09.pdf

http://www.bushfood.net/viewtopic.php?p=6233#6233

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Date: 26/10/2009 09:59:34
From: pomolo
ID: 68579
Subject: re: Creeper

pepe said:


roughbarked said:

pepe said:

old mans beard – clematis aristata – it is native to s.e. australia.

yes so is Wonga vine.. but Ol man’s beard does not grow as vigorously Also if it is dry country.. why not try some bush banana? Marsdenia australis

rook’s in tullarook – just north of the big M.
the clematis is sensational here – not a weed and good for native wildlife – one of the stars of nuriootpa’s native bush gardens. lovely, fine white webbing as flowers this time of year.
two or four plants will do it.

“Nurioopta” my favourite word when I’m in SA. It just rolls off the tongue.

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Date: 26/10/2009 10:06:44
From: pepe
ID: 68582
Subject: re: Creeper

“Nurioopta” my favourite word when I’m in SA. It just rolls off the tongue.
———
here i go arguing again – it ends in ‘pa’ altho’ we all say it the way you spell it.

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Date: 26/10/2009 10:08:41
From: pomolo
ID: 68585
Subject: re: Creeper

pepe said:


“Nurioopta” my favourite word when I’m in SA. It just rolls off the tongue.
———
here i go arguing again – it ends in ‘pa’ altho’ we all say it the way you spell it.

I go for the sound. It’s a oopta for me.

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Date: 26/10/2009 10:25:41
From: Rook
ID: 68591
Subject: re: Creeper

Thanks for all the replies guys and gals, i thought of a passionfruit but we planted 2 a month ago and they have been totally destroyed by some insect or earwigs eating them. I would hate to plant a couple just to loose them again

Rook

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Date: 26/10/2009 11:55:13
From: bluegreen
ID: 68601
Subject: re: Creeper

I love the sound of the bush banana, but would be worried that I would eat the lot and not get coverage of the tank!!

Are you going around the tanks, or just a screen on one side? What aspect will it have? How much sun and shade?

Hardenbergia violacia (Happy Wanderer) is a tough dry tolerant native that will give you good coverage and lovely winter flowers. Needs a strong support and can get a bit messy in summer but will come back strong in winter or with regular watering. I have this one facing east against a garage wall and it only gets water when it rains.

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Kennedia Nigricans is another native, but gets a bit of powdery mildew in shade. It is alongside the Hardenbergia and did much better once the tree that shaded it was removed.

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Date: 26/10/2009 12:11:11
From: Rook
ID: 68603
Subject: re: Creeper

bluegreen said:


I love the sound of the bush banana, but would be worried that I would eat the lot and not get coverage of the tank!!

Are you going around the tanks, or just a screen on one side? What aspect will it have? How much sun and shade?

Hardenbergia violacia (Happy Wanderer) is a tough dry tolerant native that will give you good coverage and lovely winter flowers. Needs a strong support and can get a bit messy in summer but will come back strong in winter or with regular watering. I have this one facing east against a garage wall and it only gets water when it rains.

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Kennedia Nigricans is another native, but gets a bit of powdery mildew in shade. It is alongside the Hardenbergia and did much better once the tree that shaded it was removed.

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Hi bg,

The screen is going to be L shaped, one part will be facing North and the other part will be facing West

I thought of Happy Wanderer.

have also looked at some of the recommendations on here…..where can i get the seeds of the Wonga Vine and Clemantis Aristata ??

Rook

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Date: 26/10/2009 12:28:28
From: roughbarked
ID: 68605
Subject: re: Creeper

There have been some very good replies here.

Passionfruit and chokoes are indeed good ones as rapid growing cover.. passionfruit and chokoes are also good food but they both hate frosts and droughts.

Hardenbergia is also very good but will not really climb .. It will need to have something to wrap itself around.

there are others as well, for example wisteria or potato vine http://www.nmessences.com/healing_images/potato_vine_b1.jpg

grapes or ornamental grapes..
I am currently covering my rainwater tanks with Wonga vine. There are other native Pandoana varieties in Australia which may be more acceptable as there are alo others from the bush banana family(was Leichardtia .. is now Marsdenia) which grow in wetter more coastal areas.

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Date: 26/10/2009 12:34:50
From: roughbarked
ID: 68606
Subject: re: Creeper

while not a creeper as such.. Mock Orange has been successfully used as a screen by many gardeners http://www.northumberlandfarmhouse.co.uk/orangebloom2.jpg

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Date: 26/10/2009 12:35:07
From: Rook
ID: 68607
Subject: re: Creeper

roughbarked said:


There have been some very good replies here.

Passionfruit and chokoes are indeed good ones as rapid growing cover.. passionfruit and chokoes are also good food but they both hate frosts and droughts.

Hardenbergia is also very good but will not really climb .. It will need to have something to wrap itself around.

there are others as well, for example wisteria or potato vine http://www.nmessences.com/healing_images/potato_vine_b1.jpg

grapes or ornamental grapes..
I am currently covering my rainwater tanks with Wonga vine. There are other native Pandoana varieties in Australia which may be more acceptable as there are alo others from the bush banana family(was Leichardtia .. is now Marsdenia) which grow in wetter more coastal areas.

rb,

In Tallarook we get dry hot days but we also get cold frost mornings….so i need to read up on the suggestions to see which one suits us best.

Rook

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Date: 26/10/2009 12:41:00
From: bluegreen
ID: 68609
Subject: re: Creeper

roughbarked said:


while not a creeper as such.. Mock Orange has been successfully used as a screen by many gardeners http://www.northumberlandfarmhouse.co.uk/orangebloom2.jpg

you making me think along the lines of espaliered fruit trees….

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Date: 26/10/2009 15:44:38
From: roughbarked
ID: 68669
Subject: re: Creeper

bluegreen said:


roughbarked said:

while not a creeper as such.. Mock Orange has been successfully used as a screen by many gardeners http://www.northumberlandfarmhouse.co.uk/orangebloom2.jpg

you making me think along the lines of espaliered fruit trees….

Yep that’s another good suggestion. Espaliered fruit can both screen well and save space in smaller gardens while providing food and fun.

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Date: 26/10/2009 16:45:15
From: pomolo
ID: 68674
Subject: re: Creeper

roughbarked said:


There have been some very good replies here.

Passionfruit and chokoes are indeed good ones as rapid growing cover.. passionfruit and chokoes are also good food but they both hate frosts and droughts.

Hardenbergia is also very good but will not really climb .. It will need to have something to wrap itself around.

there are others as well, for example wisteria or potato vine http://www.nmessences.com/healing_images/potato_vine_b1.jpg

grapes or ornamental grapes..
I am currently covering my rainwater tanks with Wonga vine. There are other native Pandoana varieties in Australia which may be more acceptable as there are alo others from the bush banana family(was Leichardtia .. is now Marsdenia) which grow in wetter more coastal areas.

I’ve got Bauhinia scandens, now corymbosa(sp) covering my tanks. Beautiful perfumed pale pink creeper. I doubt it would grow down south tho. Just put this in to make everybody jealous.

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Date: 26/10/2009 16:47:38
From: roughbarked
ID: 68675
Subject: re: Creeper

pomolo said:


roughbarked said:

There have been some very good replies here.

Passionfruit and chokoes are indeed good ones as rapid growing cover.. passionfruit and chokoes are also good food but they both hate frosts and droughts.

Hardenbergia is also very good but will not really climb .. It will need to have something to wrap itself around.

there are others as well, for example wisteria or potato vine http://www.nmessences.com/healing_images/potato_vine_b1.jpg

grapes or ornamental grapes..
I am currently covering my rainwater tanks with Wonga vine. There are other native Pandoana varieties in Australia which may be more acceptable as there are alo others from the bush banana family(was Leichardtia .. is now Marsdenia) which grow in wetter more coastal areas.

I’ve got Bauhinia scandens, now corymbosa(sp) covering my tanks. Beautiful perfumed pale pink creeper. I doubt it would grow down south tho. Just put this in to make everybody jealous.

glad for you.. :)

Has anyone smelled wonga ?

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Date: 26/10/2009 17:06:53
From: pomolo
ID: 68679
Subject: re: Creeper

roughbarked said:


pomolo said:

roughbarked said:

There have been some very good replies here.

Passionfruit and chokoes are indeed good ones as rapid growing cover.. passionfruit and chokoes are also good food but they both hate frosts and droughts.

Hardenbergia is also very good but will not really climb .. It will need to have something to wrap itself around.

there are others as well, for example wisteria or potato vine http://www.nmessences.com/healing_images/potato_vine_b1.jpg

grapes or ornamental grapes..
I am currently covering my rainwater tanks with Wonga vine. There are other native Pandoana varieties in Australia which may be more acceptable as there are alo others from the bush banana family(was Leichardtia .. is now Marsdenia) which grow in wetter more coastal areas.

I’ve got Bauhinia scandens, now corymbosa(sp) covering my tanks. Beautiful perfumed pale pink creeper. I doubt it would grow down south tho. Just put this in to make everybody jealous.

glad for you.. :)

Has anyone smelled wonga ?

No I haven’t. Didn’t realise it was perfumed. That and the fact that mine won’t flower.

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Date: 26/10/2009 19:19:22
From: roughbarked
ID: 68698
Subject: re: Creeper

pomolo said:


roughbarked said:

pomolo said:

I’ve got Bauhinia scandens, now corymbosa(sp) covering my tanks. Beautiful perfumed pale pink creeper. I doubt it would grow down south tho. Just put this in to make everybody jealous.

glad for you.. :)

Has anyone smelled wonga ?

No I haven’t. Didn’t realise it was perfumed. That and the fact that mine won’t flower.

It is not a strongly scented flower but.. in natural settings it tends to grow in rocky gorges and the warm air which becomes trapped when the sun is at the right angle to do this.. will hold the scent of Wonga Wonga vine so it can be brought to one’s attention.

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Date: 26/10/2009 22:32:19
From: pain master
ID: 68729
Subject: re: Creeper

pepe said:


“Nurioopta” my favourite word when I’m in SA. It just rolls off the tongue.
———
here i go arguing again – it ends in ‘pa’ altho’ we all say it the way you spell it.

Nuriootpa for me, and I lived there once… Always ended in a pa.

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