I’m wondering whether it would be possible to predict how addictive an entertainment would be before it goes on the market. There are clearly differences between individuals, but are there commonalities as well? I sort of have an idea I want to try out. I’ve heard that someone on “The Wiggles” wrote a PhD or masters thesis on this topic.

Please rank your favourite (and perhaps least favourite) entertainments by addictiveness.

I want to consider the most broad definition of “entertainment”. Here are some to get you started. Minecraft, WoW, first person shooter, mobile phone, tablet, computer, TV, radio, playing music, dancing, singing, board games, jigsaw puzzles, cards, painting, watching cricket, watching football, playing sport, knitting, barbies, executive toys, kids toys, kids songs, reading, romance novels, humour, stage play, picture book, anime, manga, dungeons and dragons, shopping, DIY, lego, model making, decorating, jogging.

¿How would you rank those for addictiveness, and others?

mollwollfumble said:

I’m wondering whether it would be possible to predict how addictive an entertainment would be before it goes on the market. There are clearly differences between individuals, but are there commonalities as well? I sort of have an idea I want to try out. I’ve heard that someone on “The Wiggles” wrote a PhD or masters thesis on this topic.

Please rank your favourite (and perhaps least favourite) entertainments by addictiveness.

I want to consider the most broad definition of “entertainment”. Here are some to get you started. Minecraft, WoW, first person shooter, mobile phone, tablet, computer, TV, radio, playing music, dancing, singing, board games, jigsaw puzzles, cards, painting, watching cricket, watching football, playing sport, knitting, barbies, executive toys, kids toys, kids songs, reading, romance novels, humour, stage play, picture book, anime, manga, dungeons and dragons, shopping, DIY, lego, model making, decorating, jogging.

¿How would you rank those for addictiveness, and others?

… horse riding, pets, racing, going for a drive, vitamins …

There’s quite a lot of work on the addictiveness of Pokies machines. They’re designed such that players are not so much engaged in entertainment as lambs to the slaughter.

mollwollfumble said:

I’m wondering whether it would be possible to predict how addictive an entertainment would be before it goes on the market. There are clearly differences between individuals, but are there commonalities as well? I sort of have an idea I want to try out. I’ve heard that someone on “The Wiggles” wrote a PhD or masters thesis on this topic.

Please rank your favourite (and perhaps least favourite) entertainments by addictiveness.

I want to consider the most broad definition of “entertainment”. Here are some to get you started. Minecraft, WoW, first person shooter, mobile phone, tablet, computer, TV, radio, playing music, dancing, singing, board games, jigsaw puzzles, cards, painting, watching cricket, watching football, playing sport, knitting, barbies, executive toys, kids toys, kids songs, reading, romance novels, humour, stage play, picture book, anime, manga, dungeons and dragons, shopping, DIY, lego, model making, decorating, jogging.

¿How would you rank those for addictiveness, and others?

You left off:
Mucking about with spreadsheets and self-indulgent structural analysis.

Not to mention: responding to on-line discussions.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Not to mention: responding to on-line discussions.

SiSSyFuss suffered terribly from this one – I used to call it ‘Compulsive Retort Disorder’, which manifested any time a troll showed up and the forum collectively lost its ability to resist the temptation. It was often a very sad spectacle.

Speed, solitude, and continuity, according to Natasha Dow Schüll, who spent 15 years studying Las Vegas casinos and the slot machines.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETB0×2UU6JE

Rule 303 said:

Speed, solitude, and continuity, according to Natasha Dow Schüll, who spent 15 years studying Las Vegas casinos and the slot machines.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETB0×2UU6JE

Cant view that which is a shame because it must be a ripper after a life devoted to 15 years of study.

Peak Warming Man said:

Rule 303 said:

Speed, solitude, and continuity, according to Natasha Dow Schüll, who spent 15 years studying Las Vegas casinos and the slot machines.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETB0×2UU6JE

Cant view that which is a shame because it must be a ripper after a life devoted to 15 years of study.

You might think so, but really, it’s pretty boring.

Also, Australian Pokies machines are to Vegas Pokies machines what the Inter-Continental Ballistic Missile is to the snide remark.

Rule 303 said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Rule 303 said:

Speed, solitude, and continuity, according to Natasha Dow Schüll, who spent 15 years studying Las Vegas casinos and the slot machines.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETB0×2UU6JE

Cant view that which is a shame because it must be a ripper after a life devoted to 15 years of study.

You might think so, but really, it’s pretty boring.

Also, Australian Pokies machines are to Vegas Pokies machines what the Inter-Continental Ballistic Missile is to the snide remark.

I also left off …

… heroin, cheese, sudoku, coffee, beer, jagerbomb, horse racing, chess, puzzles, fast food, murder mystery …

I’m beginning to wonder if there are three components of addictive entertainment:

• Actual addictiveness
• Individually perceived addictiveness = a huge negative
• Learning curve; longer learning curve = negative

> Speed, solitude, and continuity

Interesting.

The opposite of addictive entertainment would be solitary confinement.

> Actual addictiveness

Flooding of brain functions (eg. mobile phone) may be just as important in addiction as reward centres (eg. gambling, heroin) and emotional overload (eg. horror movies).

Anything really that rewards you by chance, loot boxes in games is a recently new one.

They are investigating this as gambling aimed at children in particular and want them removed or you can buy exactly what want and not have it as some you may get this gear by chances as some random dice roll.

Sports bets apps I mean c’mon can you design them to be anymore addictive for gambling, each new update gives you some even more obscure way to win and much higher chances of loosing. They ads themselves are horrible and reinforce the gamble anywhere/when you like

mollwollfumble said:

I’m wondering whether it would be possible to predict how addictive an entertainment would be before it goes on the market. There are clearly differences between individuals, but are there commonalities as well? I sort of have an idea I want to try out. I’ve heard that someone on “The Wiggles” wrote a PhD or masters thesis on this topic.

Please rank your favourite (and perhaps least favourite) entertainments by addictiveness.

I want to consider the most broad definition of “entertainment”. Here are some to get you started. Minecraft, WoW, first person shooter, mobile phone, tablet, computer, TV, radio, playing music, dancing, singing, board games, jigsaw puzzles, cards, painting, watching cricket, watching football, playing sport, knitting, barbies, executive toys, kids toys, kids songs, reading, romance novels, humour, stage play, picture book, anime, manga, dungeons and dragons, shopping, DIY, lego, model making, decorating, jogging.

¿How would you rank those for addictiveness, and others?

It is difficult to say that one could be addicted to LSD but after all these years if someone offered me some, I’d probably have to think before saying no.
However this is about being addicted to entertainment even though I did find LSD entertaining.
Of note, I don’t in the slightest find any of your suggestions in the least aspiring to entertain me.

roughbarked said:

mollwollfumble said:

I’m wondering whether it would be possible to predict how addictive an entertainment would be before it goes on the market. There are clearly differences between individuals, but are there commonalities as well? I sort of have an idea I want to try out. I’ve heard that someone on “The Wiggles” wrote a PhD or masters thesis on this topic.

Please rank your favourite (and perhaps least favourite) entertainments by addictiveness.

I want to consider the most broad definition of “entertainment”. Here are some to get you started. Minecraft, WoW, first person shooter, mobile phone, tablet, computer, TV, radio, playing music, dancing, singing, board games, jigsaw puzzles, cards, painting, watching cricket, watching football, playing sport, knitting, barbies, executive toys, kids toys, kids songs, reading, romance novels, humour, stage play, picture book, anime, manga, dungeons and dragons, shopping, DIY, lego, model making, decorating, jogging.

¿How would you rank those for addictiveness, and others?

It is difficult to say that one could be addicted to LSD but after all these years if someone offered me some, I’d probably have to think before saying no.
However this is about being addicted to entertainment even though I did find LSD entertaining.
Of note, I don’t in the slightest find any of your suggestions in the least aspiring to entertain me.

Not to say that I don’t watch cricket or play jigsaw puzzles. Simply that entertaining myself is different to having somebody expect me to be entertained by whatever they produce.
I may be more entertained by producing my own jigsaw puzzle.
Which is in effect what LSD is capable of.

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

mollwollfumble said:

I’m wondering whether it would be possible to predict how addictive an entertainment would be before it goes on the market. There are clearly differences between individuals, but are there commonalities as well? I sort of have an idea I want to try out. I’ve heard that someone on “The Wiggles” wrote a PhD or masters thesis on this topic.

Please rank your favourite (and perhaps least favourite) entertainments by addictiveness.

I want to consider the most broad definition of “entertainment”. Here are some to get you started. Minecraft, WoW, first person shooter, mobile phone, tablet, computer, TV, radio, playing music, dancing, singing, board games, jigsaw puzzles, cards, painting, watching cricket, watching football, playing sport, knitting, barbies, executive toys, kids toys, kids songs, reading, romance novels, humour, stage play, picture book, anime, manga, dungeons and dragons, shopping, DIY, lego, model making, decorating, jogging.

¿How would you rank those for addictiveness, and others?

It is difficult to say that one could be addicted to LSD but after all these years if someone offered me some, I’d probably have to think before saying no.
However this is about being addicted to entertainment even though I did find LSD entertaining.
Of note, I don’t in the slightest find any of your suggestions in the least aspiring to entertain me.

Not to say that I don’t watch cricket or play jigsaw puzzles. Simply that entertaining myself is different to having somebody expect me to be entertained by whatever they produce.
I may be more entertained by producing my own jigsaw puzzle.
Which is in effect what LSD is capable of.

Despite the fact that I’ve mentioned an unatainable illicit drug, I’ve always found great joy in using the gifts of speech, singing, breathing, exercise, walking, running, riding a bicycle, any artistic pursuit from drawing or photographing images, playing music, making/fabricating engineering designs crafted within the confines of one’s own cranium and etcetera.

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

It is difficult to say that one could be addicted to LSD but after all these years if someone offered me some, I’d probably have to think before saying no.
However this is about being addicted to entertainment even though I did find LSD entertaining.
Of note, I don’t in the slightest find any of your suggestions in the least aspiring to entertain me.

Not to say that I don’t watch cricket or play jigsaw puzzles. Simply that entertaining myself is different to having somebody expect me to be entertained by whatever they produce.
I may be more entertained by producing my own jigsaw puzzle.
Which is in effect what LSD is capable of.

Despite the fact that I’ve mentioned an unattainable illicit drug, I’ve always found great joy in using the gifts of speech, singing, breathing, exercise, walking, running, riding a bicycle, any artistic pursuit from drawing or photographing images, playing music, making/fabricating engineering designs crafted within the confines of one’s own cranium and etcetera.

Again not to say that one is not inspired by what others offer as entertainment or what those such as Boris repeatedly try to hammer into our skullbones as to be purported as their version of offerings of entertainment.
As to whether I may be addicted, well my attendance within the confines of this forum may actually suggest.

I use the word entertainment not much, very sparingly as it goes, and perhaps without exception in a pejorative sense, I never want for to be entertained really, and related I don’t really experience boredom. Having just three neurons has the advantage of low excitation requirements, it’s not much to feed it might be better said. I’ve whipped them every hour on the hour now for years, they’re quite well behaved, they don’t squawk like hungry starling chicks

transition said:

I use the word entertainment not much, very sparingly as it goes, and perhaps without exception in a pejorative sense, I never want for to be entertained really, and related I don’t really experience boredom. Having just three neurons has the advantage of low excitation requirements, it’s not much to feed it might be better said. I’ve whipped them every hour on the hour now for years, they’re quite well behaved, they don’t squawk like hungry starling chicks

:)

roughbarked said:

mollwollfumble said:

I’m wondering whether it would be possible to predict how addictive an entertainment would be before it goes on the market. There are clearly differences between individuals, but are there commonalities as well? I sort of have an idea I want to try out. I’ve heard that someone on “The Wiggles” wrote a PhD or masters thesis on this topic.

Please rank your favourite (and perhaps least favourite) entertainments by addictiveness.

I want to consider the most broad definition of “entertainment”. Here are some to get you started. Minecraft, WoW, first person shooter, mobile phone, tablet, computer, TV, radio, playing music, dancing, singing, board games, jigsaw puzzles, cards, painting, watching cricket, watching football, playing sport, knitting, barbies, executive toys, kids toys, kids songs, reading, romance novels, humour, stage play, picture book, anime, manga, dungeons and dragons, shopping, DIY, lego, model making, decorating, jogging.

¿How would you rank those for addictiveness, and others?

It is difficult to say that one could be addicted to LSD but after all these years if someone offered me some, I’d probably have to think before saying no.
However this is about being addicted to entertainment even though I did find LSD entertaining.
Of note, I don’t in the slightest find any of your suggestions in the least aspiring to entertain me.

I would have thought that I didn’t ever need to do acid again. But I have been thinking lately that if I was offered some 1976 clearlight I might try some for the reset function ability.
I could go a reset.

I play words with friends to keep my brain functioning. I play solitaire late with the lights dimmed to slow down.

sarahs mum said:

roughbarked said:

mollwollfumble said:

I’m wondering whether it would be possible to predict how addictive an entertainment would be before it goes on the market. There are clearly differences between individuals, but are there commonalities as well? I sort of have an idea I want to try out. I’ve heard that someone on “The Wiggles” wrote a PhD or masters thesis on this topic.

Please rank your favourite (and perhaps least favourite) entertainments by addictiveness.

I want to consider the most broad definition of “entertainment”. Here are some to get you started. Minecraft, WoW, first person shooter, mobile phone, tablet, computer, TV, radio, playing music, dancing, singing, board games, jigsaw puzzles, cards, painting, watching cricket, watching football, playing sport, knitting, barbies, executive toys, kids toys, kids songs, reading, romance novels, humour, stage play, picture book, anime, manga, dungeons and dragons, shopping, DIY, lego, model making, decorating, jogging.

¿How would you rank those for addictiveness, and others?

It is difficult to say that one could be addicted to LSD but after all these years if someone offered me some, I’d probably have to think before saying no.
However this is about being addicted to entertainment even though I did find LSD entertaining.
Of note, I don’t in the slightest find any of your suggestions in the least aspiring to entertain me.

I would have thought that I didn’t ever need to do acid again. But I have been thinking lately that if I was offered some 1976 clearlight I might try some for the reset function ability.
I could go a reset.

There is always that the reset may occur but in all reality it has been done and that is that.

sarahs mum said:

I play words with friends to keep my brain functioning. I play solitaire late with the lights dimmed to slow down.

I do play with words wherever I can, not always to my entertainment but the reflex is there.

sarahs mum said:

I play words with friends to keep my brain functioning. I play solitaire late with the lights dimmed to slow down.

dimmed light is good, you could take out all the light bulbs, just use a candle, or low power torch. Use a torch that goes flat.

darken your computer screen put some shade cloth over it

most people are secretly hoping to go back to natural light, cycles of day, they want longer twilights(they want twilight back), you see the change emerging with power failures, the expense of electricity

the hints are all there

i’m inciting a revolution, low-output torches, that go flat, and the return of twilight, and extended twilight. Worse though i’m promoting twilight mental states, for daylight periods.

transition said:

sarahs mum said:

I play words with friends to keep my brain functioning. I play solitaire late with the lights dimmed to slow down.

dimmed light is good, you could take out all the light bulbs, just use a candle, or low power torch. Use a torch that goes flat.

darken your computer screen put some shade cloth over it

most people are secretly hoping to go back to natural light, cycles of day, they want longer twilights(they want twilight back), you see the change emerging with power failures, the expense of electricity

the hints are all there

i’m inciting a revolution, low-output torches, that go flat, and the return of twilight, and extended twilight. Worse though i’m promoting twilight mental states, for daylight periods.

I particularly enjoy full oonlight.

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

mollwollfumble said:

I’m wondering whether it would be possible to predict how addictive an entertainment would be before it goes on the market. There are clearly differences between individuals, but are there commonalities as well? I sort of have an idea I want to try out. I’ve heard that someone on “The Wiggles” wrote a PhD or masters thesis on this topic.

Please rank your favourite (and perhaps least favourite) entertainments by addictiveness.

I want to consider the most broad definition of “entertainment”. Here are some to get you started. Minecraft, WoW, first person shooter, mobile phone, tablet, computer, TV, radio, playing music, dancing, singing, board games, jigsaw puzzles, cards, painting, watching cricket, watching football, playing sport, knitting, barbies, executive toys, kids toys, kids songs, reading, romance novels, humour, stage play, picture book, anime, manga, dungeons and dragons, shopping, DIY, lego, model making, decorating, jogging.

¿How would you rank those for addictiveness, and others?

It is difficult to say that one could be addicted to LSD but after all these years if someone offered me some, I’d probably have to think before saying no.
However this is about being addicted to entertainment even though I did find LSD entertaining.
Of note, I don’t in the slightest find any of your suggestions in the least aspiring to entertain me.

Not to say that I don’t watch cricket or play jigsaw puzzles. Simply that entertaining myself is different to having somebody expect me to be entertained by whatever they produce.
I may be more entertained by producing my own jigsaw puzzle.
Which is in effect what LSD is capable of.

> I don’t in the slightest find any of your suggestions in the least aspiring to entertain me.

Sure, that’s why I asked for your personal list.

For me, my personal, list would be something like these in turn from most to least addictive.

• Computer tablet in bed
• TV
• Eating (fatty salty)
• Desktop
• Sleep
• Reading
• Sudoku – Kakuro
• Good music on radio
• Applied maths
• Playing piano
• Walking
• Photography
• Eating sweets
• Puzzle solving
• Doodling – art
• DIY
• Driving
• Singing
• Gardening
• Dancing
• Watching sport
• Exercise
• Socializing – talking – telephone
• Tennis

You?

mollwollfumble said:

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

It is difficult to say that one could be addicted to LSD but after all these years if someone offered me some, I’d probably have to think before saying no.
However this is about being addicted to entertainment even though I did find LSD entertaining.
Of note, I don’t in the slightest find any of your suggestions in the least aspiring to entertain me.

Not to say that I don’t watch cricket or play jigsaw puzzles. Simply that entertaining myself is different to having somebody expect me to be entertained by whatever they produce.
I may be more entertained by producing my own jigsaw puzzle.
Which is in effect what LSD is capable of.

> I don’t in the slightest find any of your suggestions in the least aspiring to entertain me.

Sure, that’s why I asked for your personal list.

For me, my personal, list would be something like these in turn from most to least addictive.

• Computer tablet in bed
• TV
• Eating (fatty salty)
• Desktop
• Sleep
• Reading
• Sudoku – Kakuro
• Good music on radio
• Applied maths
• Playing piano
• Walking
• Photography
• Eating sweets
• Puzzle solving
• Doodling – art
• DIY
• Driving
• Singing
• Gardening
• Dancing
• Watching sport
• Exercise
• Socializing – talking – telephone
• Tennis

You?

I’d far rather have a warm body than a computer tablet in bed.
I’d watch more TV if it wasn’t full of stuff I’ve seen before with ads added. Can’t wait until we get a goverment that supports develoment of the ABC again.
Prefer my food fresh from the garden or orchard. Not big on fat and salt.
Love sleeping just don’t get enough of it.
Reading is a fave pastime but as with crosswords, they pass time too quickly and I have precious little of that.
Love reading playing and even writing music as well as enjoy listening to the musical productions of others.
Love walking, love photography and as for puzzle solving, every clock or watch is one of those.
Same with DIY. I make things often things that nobody else has ever thought of making, otherwise I’d probably be able to buy one.
Love singing and the exercise of breathing. the latter of which I must be addicted to or I would be dead.
Am definitely addicted to growng things / making soil to grow things in.

Don’t care for watching sport much though I don’t mind a game of cricket. The only football I can watch at all would be soccer. Prefer to watch women play team sports because they are actually team players. Most sporting males are wankers.
Can’t stand tennis, sweets, chocolates etc. Cannot comprehend what people see in sudoku.