Date: 3/11/2019 11:25:08
From: transition
ID: 1457179
Subject: structure forming - condensates

a naive foray on my part re this subject

it’s easy to be impressed by something becoming more energetic, or expanding maybe, too

but I wonder if that (sort of thing) represents most of structure forming magic in the universe, and of life here on earth

you know the big bang sounds energetic, but mostly it’s been followed by cooling, expansion and cooling

people might think of life emerging around a deep sea thermal vent, I see it in a pond settling out and stratification

people might observe a seed germinating and be impressed, I may be just as impressed by a seed forming and remain dormant

you could be impressed by your latest phone, it’s faster, brighter, got more bells and whistles, and the battery lasts longer.

anyway, without going into it too much..

is there a tendency to be impressed by whatever that’s (or becoming) more energetic, and does this tend to distort our view of the world

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Date: 3/11/2019 12:04:33
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1457198
Subject: re: structure forming - condensates

transition said:


a naive foray on my part re this subject

it’s easy to be impressed by something becoming more energetic, or expanding maybe, too

but I wonder if that (sort of thing) represents most of structure forming magic in the universe, and of life here on earth

you know the big bang sounds energetic, but mostly it’s been followed by cooling, expansion and cooling

people might think of life emerging around a deep sea thermal vent, I see it in a pond settling out and stratification

people might observe a seed germinating and be impressed, I may be just as impressed by a seed forming and remain dormant

you could be impressed by your latest phone, it’s faster, brighter, got more bells and whistles, and the battery lasts longer.

anyway, without going into it too much..

is there a tendency to be impressed by whatever that’s (or becoming) more energetic, and does this tend to distort our view of the world

Yes and yes.

The example I use to illustrate this is wars. There is a tendency to fill history books with wars because they are impressively energetic.

This is a very distorted view.

Whereas it would be more appropriate to fill history books with progress and setbacks in food technology. Hunting, cooking, domestication, farming, salt, spices, breeding, sugar, ice chests, vacuum packing, irradiation, etc.

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Date: 3/11/2019 16:14:53
From: transition
ID: 1457368
Subject: re: structure forming - condensates

>There is a tendency to fill history books with wars because they are impressively energetic.

I was thinking about wars the other day, guys resting in the trenches, battle fatigue and all that

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