Date: 5/11/2019 03:00:12
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1458036
Subject: Today I Found Out

That Time the U.S. Military Launched a Half a Billion Needles to Space

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJDl4dUlFiI

Want the text version? http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2019/10/that-time-the-u-s-military-launched-a-half-a-billion-needles-to-space-for-reasons/

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Date: 5/11/2019 04:29:35
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1458037
Subject: re: Today I Found Out

sarahs mum said:


That Time the U.S. Military Launched a Half a Billion Needles to Space

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJDl4dUlFiI

Want the text version? http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2019/10/that-time-the-u-s-military-launched-a-half-a-billion-needles-to-space-for-reasons/

What! That disagrees with what I know. What I know is the following:

This was suggested in the earliest days of space flight. The suggestion was that needles launched into space would reflect back radio waves allowing enhanced communications around the world, much better than short wave.

This was in the days of spacecraft Echo 1, launched in 1960. “The Echo 1 spacecraft was a 30.48-m-diameter balloon of mylar polyester film 0.5 mil (0.0127 mm) thick. The spacecraft was designed as a passive communications reflector for transcontinental and intercontinental telephone, radio, and television signals.”

Echo 1 was followed by Echo 2 in 1964.

It was close to this time that the idea of launching billions of needles into space for radio communications was floated. The idea was quickly quashed because radio astronomers immediately complained that it would block radio astronomy. So it was never done. The final nail in the coffin of the project would have been Kennedy’s “we choose to go to the Moon” speech in 1962. Space needles would have blocked the communications to any spacecraft heading to the Moon.

I mean, there was probably an atmosphere test, this was after all just a variation on the radar jamming “window” project of WW2. “Chaff, originally called Window by the British and Düppel by the Second World War era”. “The idea of using chaff developed independently in the United Kingdom, Germany, the United States and Japan. In 1937”.

But never in space. So far as I know.

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Date: 5/11/2019 04:36:07
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1458038
Subject: re: Today I Found Out

mollwollfumble said:


sarahs mum said:

That Time the U.S. Military Launched a Half a Billion Needles to Space

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJDl4dUlFiI

Want the text version? http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2019/10/that-time-the-u-s-military-launched-a-half-a-billion-needles-to-space-for-reasons/

What! That disagrees with what I know. What I know is the following:

This was suggested in the earliest days of space flight. The suggestion was that needles launched into space would reflect back radio waves allowing enhanced communications around the world, much better than short wave.

This was in the days of spacecraft Echo 1, launched in 1960. “The Echo 1 spacecraft was a 30.48-m-diameter balloon of mylar polyester film 0.5 mil (0.0127 mm) thick. The spacecraft was designed as a passive communications reflector for transcontinental and intercontinental telephone, radio, and television signals.”

Echo 1 was followed by Echo 2 in 1964.

It was close to this time that the idea of launching billions of needles into space for radio communications was floated. The idea was quickly quashed because radio astronomers immediately complained that it would block radio astronomy. So it was never done. The final nail in the coffin of the project would have been Kennedy’s “we choose to go to the Moon” speech in 1962. Space needles would have blocked the communications to any spacecraft heading to the Moon.

I mean, there was probably an atmosphere test, this was after all just a variation on the radar jamming “window” project of WW2. “Chaff, originally called Window by the British and Düppel by the Second World War era”. “The idea of using chaff developed independently in the United Kingdom, Germany, the United States and Japan. In 1937”.

But never in space. So far as I know.

> Want the text version? http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2019/10/that-time-the-u-s-military-launched-a-half-a-billion-needles-to-space-for-reasons/

But what do I know? The text is rather compelling.

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Date: 5/11/2019 05:57:22
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1458043
Subject: re: Today I Found Out

Have just finished reading a “recent Sci-Fi” book. Lots of interesting ideas there.

Last story set in the not to distance future on Earth, based on “what do you give a person what has everything?” And by everything I mean already owns three countries including a private island, already has enough billions of dollars to get literally anything 3-D printed or buy any craft item or antique item, has already been to space, got away with the perfect murder, created a monopoly to institute altruistic social change.

The answer to “what do you give a person what has everything?” has two answers in the SciFi story. The simplest answer is “a pleasant surprise”. The second answer is “numeracy”, a completely accurate understanding of risk probabilities at a gut-emotional level – no more buying lottery tickets or fear of ridiculously unlikely events – no more being fooled by political manipulators.

What do you think?

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Date: 5/11/2019 07:36:04
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1458046
Subject: re: Today I Found Out

mollwollfumble said:


The second answer is “numeracy”, a completely accurate understanding of risk probabilities at a gut-emotional level – no more buying lottery tickets or fear of ridiculously unlikely events – no more being fooled by political manipulators.

What do you think?

Also:
No more ignoring of hidden future costs.
No more ignoring rare events with severe consequences.
No more ignoring very low probability events with disastrous consequences.
No more being fooled by commercial manipulators.

Good move

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Date: 5/11/2019 12:18:03
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1458156
Subject: re: Today I Found Out

I have found ‘today I found out’ to be informative and factual. This edition contained a lot of stuff I did not know. So I posted it.

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