Date: 16/11/2019 13:34:12
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1462648
Subject: Quantum physics: our study suggests objective reality doesn’t exist

Quantum physics: our study suggests objective reality doesn’t exist

Alternative facts are spreading like a virus across society. Now it seems they have even infected science – at least the quantum realm. This may seem counter intuitive. The scientific method is after all founded on the reliable notions of observation, measurement and repeatability. A fact, as established by a measurement, should be objective, such that all observers can agree with it.

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Date: 16/11/2019 16:40:27
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1462728
Subject: re: Quantum physics: our study suggests objective reality doesn’t exist

Tau.Neutrino said:


Quantum physics: our study suggests objective reality doesn’t exist

Alternative facts are spreading like a virus across society. Now it seems they have even infected science – at least the quantum realm. This may seem counter intuitive. The scientific method is after all founded on the reliable notions of observation, measurement and repeatability. A fact, as established by a measurement, should be objective, such that all observers can agree with it.

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If objective reality does not exist, why should I accept the conclusions of their study?

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Date: 16/11/2019 16:50:44
From: dv
ID: 1462730
Subject: re: Quantum physics: our study suggests objective reality doesn’t exist

The Rev Dodgson said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Quantum physics: our study suggests objective reality doesn’t exist

Alternative facts are spreading like a virus across society. Now it seems they have even infected science – at least the quantum realm. This may seem counter intuitive. The scientific method is after all founded on the reliable notions of observation, measurement and repeatability. A fact, as established by a measurement, should be objective, such that all observers can agree with it.

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If objective reality does not exist, why should I accept the conclusions of their study?

That’s the real kicker

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Date: 16/11/2019 18:46:10
From: Ian
ID: 1462761
Subject: re: Quantum physics: our study suggests objective reality doesn’t exist

The Rev Dodgson said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Quantum physics: our study suggests objective reality doesn’t exist

Alternative facts are spreading like a virus across society. Now it seems they have even infected science – at least the quantum realm. This may seem counter intuitive. The scientific method is after all founded on the reliable notions of observation, measurement and repeatability. A fact, as established by a measurement, should be objective, such that all observers can agree with it.

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If objective reality does not exist, why should I accept the conclusions of their study?

And who or what is “I”?

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Date: 16/11/2019 18:54:18
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1462764
Subject: re: Quantum physics: our study suggests objective reality doesn’t exist

Tau.Neutrino said:


Quantum physics: our study suggests objective reality doesn’t exist

Alternative facts are spreading like a virus across society. Now it seems they have even infected science – at least the quantum realm. This may seem counter intuitive. The scientific method is after all founded on the reliable notions of observation, measurement and repeatability. A fact, as established by a measurement, should be objective, such that all observers can agree with it.

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> two different observers are entitled to their own facts

That can apply even in special relativity without QM. Observer 1 will see A and B as simultaneous, Observed 2 will see A happen before B. Observer 3 will see B happen before A. This is perfectly valid.

> “Bell inequality”

Yep, figured that this would be what this article was about. Another experiment confirming Bell’s inequality. Different way of doing it, though.

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