Lifespan for us Westerners appears to be around 80 years.

But at the age of 60, I find myself saying: “You’ve got another year, let’s finish that painting and get a bit of music out there, then be on our way.”

And I’m surprisingly content with that verdict.

But at other times, I say: “You could have another twenty years. Why the hurry?”

Answer: there’s not a lot to hang around for except increasing woes, pain and inconvenience.

I’m still open to persuasion but it means finding a state of mind where “one year left” doesn’t sound comforting enough.

How to train the mind to a long and pleasant twilight?

Bubblecar said:

Lifespan for us Westerners appears to be around 80 years.

But at the age of 60, I find myself saying: “You’ve got another year, let’s finish that painting and get a bit of music out there, then be on our way.”

And I’m surprisingly content with that verdict.

But at other times, I say: “You could have another twenty years. Why the hurry?”

Answer: there’s not a lot to hang around for except increasing woes, pain and inconvenience.

I’m still open to persuasion but it means finding a state of mind where “one year left” doesn’t sound comforting enough.

How to train the mind to a long and pleasant twilight?

Yes I feel that way and I’m only 49
I look at the nursing home my dad ended I up in and couldn’t think of anything less desirable and that doesn’t include actually dying from something nasty added into the mix.

Cymek said:

Bubblecar said:

Lifespan for us Westerners appears to be around 80 years.

But at the age of 60, I find myself saying: “You’ve got another year, let’s finish that painting and get a bit of music out there, then be on our way.”

And I’m surprisingly content with that verdict.

But at other times, I say: “You could have another twenty years. Why the hurry?”

Answer: there’s not a lot to hang around for except increasing woes, pain and inconvenience.

I’m still open to persuasion but it means finding a state of mind where “one year left” doesn’t sound comforting enough.

How to train the mind to a long and pleasant twilight?

Yes I feel that way and I’m only 49
I look at the nursing home my dad ended I up in and couldn’t think of anything less desirable and that doesn’t include actually dying from something nasty added into the mix.

I’m 60 and feel the same way. If you find an answer let me know. I keep trying to find things to live until. At the moment the best I have is Hayabusa2 returning from Ryugu next year.

One positive thing for me was my computer tablet dying a month ago. It got my brain moving again.

Are you happy Mr Car
I’m not, never really have been, I feel isolated and disconnected from the world and find people in general of little interest
Makes living a chore and that’s when you are young, fit and health, old age seems like punishment as you can linger on with nothing getting better. I suppose if you like family, people, socialisation its not as bad

mollwollfumble said:

Cymek said:

Bubblecar said:

Lifespan for us Westerners appears to be around 80 years.

But at the age of 60, I find myself saying: “You’ve got another year, let’s finish that painting and get a bit of music out there, then be on our way.”

And I’m surprisingly content with that verdict.

But at other times, I say: “You could have another twenty years. Why the hurry?”

Answer: there’s not a lot to hang around for except increasing woes, pain and inconvenience.

I’m still open to persuasion but it means finding a state of mind where “one year left” doesn’t sound comforting enough.

How to train the mind to a long and pleasant twilight?

Yes I feel that way and I’m only 49
I look at the nursing home my dad ended I up in and couldn’t think of anything less desirable and that doesn’t include actually dying from something nasty added into the mix.

I’m 60 and feel the same way. If you find an answer let me know. I keep trying to find things to live until. At the moment the best I have is Hayabusa2 returning from Ryugu next year.

One positive thing for me was my computer tablet dying a month ago. It got my brain moving again.

Yes science discoveries are something worth living for, weird though as many people would go WTF

Cymek said:

mollwollfumble said:

Cymek said:

Yes I feel that way and I’m only 49
I look at the nursing home my dad ended I up in and couldn’t think of anything less desirable and that doesn’t include actually dying from something nasty added into the mix.

I’m 60 and feel the same way. If you find an answer let me know. I keep trying to find things to live until. At the moment the best I have is Hayabusa2 returning from Ryugu next year.

One positive thing for me was my computer tablet dying a month ago. It got my brain moving again.

Yes science discoveries are something worth living for, weird though as many people would go WTF

Every month there is a chance my doctor will tell me that the treatment is no longer working & I should get my affairs in order.
I’m comfortable with the idea of being dead but the dieing is a bit of a worry.
I’ll be 79 next month so even without the cancer 80 looks about it for me.

Cymek said:

mollwollfumble said:

Cymek said:

Yes I feel that way and I’m only 49
I look at the nursing home my dad ended I up in and couldn’t think of anything less desirable and that doesn’t include actually dying from something nasty added into the mix.

I’m 60 and feel the same way. If you find an answer let me know. I keep trying to find things to live until. At the moment the best I have is Hayabusa2 returning from Ryugu next year.

One positive thing for me was my computer tablet dying a month ago. It got my brain moving again.

Yes science discoveries are something worth living for, weird though as many people would go WTF

Years ago I read about a severely depressed woman who credited soap operas for saving her life. She really needed to see what happened on the next episode. Hey, if it works for you, do what you gotta do!

I’m 51 and I hope I live another 100 years or so, there are a lot of projects I’d like to do.

dv said:

I’m 51 and I hope I live another 100 years or so, there are a lot of projects I’d like to do.

If I had a safe space in the universe I’d feel the same way.

dv said:

I’m 51 and I hope I live another 100 years or so, there are a lot of projects I’d like to do.

I’m days off 48, and want at least three more lifetimes to do the stuff that I want to do…

Arts said:

dv said:

I’m 51 and I hope I live another 100 years or so, there are a lot of projects I’d like to do.

I’m days off 48, and want at least three more lifetimes to do the stuff that I want to do…

ahhhh only two off.

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

I’m 51 and I hope I live another 100 years or so, there are a lot of projects I’d like to do.

If I had a safe space in the universe I’d feel the same way.

I see what you’re saying.

64 and looking forward to retirement and doing whatever i want.

Boris said:

64 and looking forward to retirement and doing whatever i want.

I wouldn’t say I’m doing whatever the fuck I want, but SAHMing has been… interesting.

At the very least, I wrote a novel. Oh, and raised a child well enough to go to school next year…

quick death would be the ideal way, I couldn’t care if it’s tonight, next week, or a month ago

meanwhile I live, indulge whatever I enjoy, make things marginally enjoyable

much as abstraction of the subject (mortality) yields any reality, probably SFA really

transition said:

quick death would be the ideal way, I couldn’t care if it’s tonight, next week, or a month ago

If you died a month ago, I have questions…

Divine Angel said:

Boris said:

64 and looking forward to retirement and doing whatever i want.

I wouldn’t say I’m doing whatever the fuck I want, but SAHMing has been… interesting.

At the very least, I wrote a novel. Oh, and raised a child well enough to go to school next year…

If anyone has a witty epitaph I can use I’d appreciate knowing it.

Divine Angel said:

transition said:

quick death would be the ideal way, I couldn’t care if it’s tonight, next week, or a month ago

If you died a month ago, I have questions…

chuckle

i’ve gone past really smelly

Divine Angel said:

transition said:

quick death would be the ideal way, I couldn’t care if it’s tonight, next week, or a month ago

If you died a month ago, I have questions…

I died just over 4 years ago.

sibeen said:

Divine Angel said:

transition said:

quick death would be the ideal way, I couldn’t care if it’s tonight, next week, or a month ago

If you died a month ago, I have questions…

I died just over 4 years ago.

and i thought it was my socks.

sibeen said:

Divine Angel said:

transition said:

quick death would be the ideal way, I couldn’t care if it’s tonight, next week, or a month ago

If you died a month ago, I have questions…

I died just over 4 years ago.

Yet we don’t eat chocolate on a 4 day holiday celebrating your resurrection. How rude.

probably some relationship between humans being precious about themselves and degradation of natural systems of climate, and other animal life

some people want to be immortal even, dear God imagine the problems with that

sibeen said:

Divine Angel said:

transition said:

quick death would be the ideal way, I couldn’t care if it’s tonight, next week, or a month ago

If you died a month ago, I have questions…

I died just over 4 years ago.

still wouldn’t have got you out of prison.

Being immortal would be great and noble.

But in the real world it’s a thin thread by which I hang, and I won’t be making much fuss about going.

Apart from a thread or two like this :)

I hope to make 60, only a few winters colds away. At the moment I am fine but if I take another big knock that leaves me permanently struggling for breath I know now from lived experience it’s not a way I would like to live with, I also know from that experience you do some very intense calculations of quality of life versus no life. As an example nights were the worst, hard to sleep as you struggle to breath but as day come and midafternoon I could be propped up in bed, had some decent coughs, off the oxygen and feeling not too bad and enjoying a book. If you can anticipate respite you can deal with a lot of discomfort, but if it is a permanent struggle that is just too debilitating.

I am happy with my own company, books, music, internet’s and computer games so if confined to a chair I won’t be pining for the fjords.

I guess ultimately you either don’t get a choice and you are killed, or you get a choice and decide that life is no longer tolerable. Take blessings you lived in this time and in this place, historically and compared to the vast mass of humanity past and present, everyone on this forum lucked out. (Which of course doesn’t make sense but it’s to provide comfort not logic).

AwesomeO said:

I hope to make 60, only a few winters colds away. At the moment I am fine but if I take another big knock that leaves me permanently struggling for breath I know now from lived experience it’s not a way I would like to live with, I also know from that experience you do some very intense calculations of quality of life versus no life. As an example nights were the worst, hard to sleep as you struggle to breath but as day come and midafternoon I could be propped up in bed, had some decent coughs, off the oxygen and feeling not too bad and enjoying a book. If you can anticipate respite you can deal with a lot of discomfort, but if it is a permanent struggle that is just too debilitating.

I am happy with my own company, books, music, internet’s and computer games so if confined to a chair I won’t be pining for the fjords.

I guess ultimately you either don’t get a choice and you are killed, or you get a choice and decide that life is no longer tolerable. Take blessings you lived in this time and in this place, historically and compared to the vast mass of humanity past and present, everyone on this forum lucked out. (Which of course doesn’t make sense but it’s to provide comfort not logic).

:)

All strength to you.

transition said:

probably some relationship between humans being precious about themselves and degradation of natural systems of climate, and other animal life

some people want to be immortal even, dear God imagine the problems with that

Presumably she’d say “what is the problem?”.

850 years here and I hope for another coupla hundred.. but meh, death is overrated (:

Ian said:

850 years here and I hope for another coupla hundred.. but meh, death is overrated (:

I’ve tried it twice now & find it quite relaxing.

dv said:

I’m 51 and I hope I live another 100 years or so, there are a lot of projects I’d like to do.

Never enough time.

Boris said:

64 and looking forward to retirement and doing whatever i want.

It’s really nice to be able to do things at a more leisurely pace. And know there is time to get at least 2/3 through the mental list of things you want to do. It’s a great improvement on always only getting half of it done.

:)

Cheer up

I’m invincible as ever.

wookiemeister said:

Cheer up

I’m invincible as ever.

I live for your newsletters, if you get cleaned up by a N0 38 bus I’ll just fade away.
Your newsletters are my life force.

Peak Warming Man said:

wookiemeister said:

Cheer up

I’m invincible as ever.

I live for your newsletters, if you get cleaned up by a N0 38 bus I’ll just fade away.
Your newsletters are my life force.

If you print them out, crush them and short the powder you’ll get the rush – to the extreme

wookiemeister said:

Peak Warming Man said:

wookiemeister said:

Cheer up

I’m invincible as ever.

I live for your newsletters, if you get cleaned up by a N0 38 bus I’ll just fade away.
Your newsletters are my life force.

If you print them out, crush them and short the powder you’ll get the rush – to the extreme

Linky?