Date: 20/11/2019 19:15:55
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1464238
Subject: New evidence that the universe is finite

new evidence that the universe is finite

Science with Charley Lineweaver: new evidence that the universe is finite

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Date: 20/11/2019 19:28:17
From: Boris
ID: 1464247
Subject: re: New evidence that the universe is finite

Tau.Neutrino said:


new evidence that the universe is finite

Science with Charley Lineweaver: new evidence that the universe is finite

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tentative.

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Date: 20/11/2019 19:32:00
From: Cymek
ID: 1464249
Subject: re: New evidence that the universe is finite

How small would the universe need to be for it to still work the way it does.
I imagine perhaps from our point of view one galaxy should be enough for us to exist exactly like we do.

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Date: 20/11/2019 19:37:43
From: Cymek
ID: 1464250
Subject: re: New evidence that the universe is finite

Cymek said:


How small would the universe need to be for it to still work the way it does.
I imagine perhaps from our point of view one galaxy should be enough for us to exist exactly like we do.

That’s poorly worded
How small could the universe be and everything still works the way we observe it.

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Date: 20/11/2019 19:44:29
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1464258
Subject: re: New evidence that the universe is finite

Cymek said:


How small would the universe need to be for it to still work the way it does.
I imagine perhaps from our point of view one galaxy should be enough for us to exist exactly like we do.

Nowhere near big enough, we’d already be at the edge or at the edge already, scratching around at the barrier and there’d be a huge debate as to whether God put anything on the other side.

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Date: 20/11/2019 19:47:21
From: Cymek
ID: 1464263
Subject: re: New evidence that the universe is finite

Peak Warming Man said:


Cymek said:

How small would the universe need to be for it to still work the way it does.
I imagine perhaps from our point of view one galaxy should be enough for us to exist exactly like we do.

Nowhere near big enough, we’d already be at the edge or at the edge already, scratching around at the barrier and there’d be a huge debate as to whether God put anything on the other side.

Just wondering how much anything outside our galaxy has an effect on our solar system.
Would the various processes still work if our universe was the size of the galaxy and if so how long would it last

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Date: 20/11/2019 19:49:29
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1464266
Subject: re: New evidence that the universe is finite

Cymek said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Cymek said:

How small would the universe need to be for it to still work the way it does.
I imagine perhaps from our point of view one galaxy should be enough for us to exist exactly like we do.

Nowhere near big enough, we’d already be at the edge or at the edge already, scratching around at the barrier and there’d be a huge debate as to whether God put anything on the other side.

Just wondering how much anything outside our galaxy has an effect on our solar system.
Would the various processes still work if our universe was the size of the galaxy and if so how long would it last

This is where Cusps would come in handy.

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Date: 20/11/2019 19:51:41
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1464267
Subject: re: New evidence that the universe is finite

Cymek said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Cymek said:

How small would the universe need to be for it to still work the way it does.
I imagine perhaps from our point of view one galaxy should be enough for us to exist exactly like we do.

Nowhere near big enough, we’d already be at the edge or at the edge already, scratching around at the barrier and there’d be a huge debate as to whether God put anything on the other side.

Just wondering how much anything outside our galaxy has an effect on our solar system.
Would the various processes still work if our universe was the size of the galaxy and if so how long would it last

I wonder if a small universe could be created?

Would it have to be created outside of this universe or could it be created in this universe?

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Date: 21/11/2019 07:53:36
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1464361
Subject: re: New evidence that the universe is finite

Tau.Neutrino said:


new evidence that the universe is finite

Science with Charley Lineweaver: new evidence that the universe is finite

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Um what. We just had a thread “The universe is a sphere”. To which I replied “impossible, the Planck satellite final result tends to hyperbolic (negative curvature), definitely not spherical (positive curvature)”. Hyperbolic is not finite.

Haven’t watched the video, but is Charley Lineweaver an idiot? Has to be.

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Date: 21/11/2019 07:56:58
From: Tamb
ID: 1464367
Subject: re: New evidence that the universe is finite

mollwollfumble said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

new evidence that the universe is finite

Science with Charley Lineweaver: new evidence that the universe is finite

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Um what. We just had a thread “The universe is a sphere”. To which I replied “impossible, the Planck satellite final result tends to hyperbolic (negative curvature), definitely not spherical (positive curvature)”. Hyperbolic is not finite.

Haven’t watched the video, but is Charley Lineweaver an idiot? Has to be.


Didn’t someone say: Not infinite but unbounded.

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Date: 21/11/2019 08:05:56
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1464370
Subject: re: New evidence that the universe is finite

> Didn’t someone say: Not infinite but unbounded.

That’s like the Earth’s surface, positive curvature.

The universe does not have positive curvature. Either zero or negative.

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Date: 21/11/2019 08:13:17
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1464371
Subject: re: New evidence that the universe is finite

mollwollfumble said:


> Didn’t someone say: Not infinite but unbounded.

That’s like the Earth’s surface, positive curvature.

The universe does not have positive curvature. Either zero or negative.

That is not certain.

There are even some scientists who have studied the question in detail who say it is not certain, not just me.

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Date: 23/11/2019 15:03:28
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1465354
Subject: re: New evidence that the universe is finite

The Rev Dodgson said:


mollwollfumble said:

> Didn’t someone say: Not infinite but unbounded.

That’s like the Earth’s surface, positive curvature.

The universe does not have positive curvature. Either zero or negative.

That is not certain.

There are even some scientists who have studied the question in detail who say it is not certain, not just me.

Ho hum, read the latest report on cosmology from the Planck satellite. It’s more than 2 sigma on the negative curvature side, that pretty well rules out positive curvature.

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Date: 23/11/2019 16:23:14
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1465398
Subject: re: New evidence that the universe is finite

mollwollfumble said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

mollwollfumble said:

> Didn’t someone say: Not infinite but unbounded.

That’s like the Earth’s surface, positive curvature.

The universe does not have positive curvature. Either zero or negative.

That is not certain.

There are even some scientists who have studied the question in detail who say it is not certain, not just me.

Ho hum, read the latest report on cosmology from the Planck satellite. It’s more than 2 sigma on the negative curvature side, that pretty well rules out positive curvature.

Well no, when there are other measurements with different results, it doesn’t rule out anything.

It just shows that at least one of the measurements is wrong, or the underlying assumptions are wrong, or both.

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