Last week, Australian model Erin Langmaid gave birth to a baby she didn’t know she was carrying.
There was a 10 minute labour, and the baby was born “blue”: a speedy heart surgery was carried out. Unfortunately Erin had been drinking alcohol regularly so I hope everything is okay.

https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/world/2019-11-18-surprise-model-had-no-idea-she-was-pregnant-until-10-minutes-before-giving-birth/

https://www.womenshealthmag.com/health/a29799786/erin-langmaid-cryptic-pregnancy/

So called “cryptic pregnancies” are not extremely rare. She was on a contraceptive implant so was not expecting menstruation. She didn’t suffer morning sickness: this is also not that uncommon.
She said she did not change in size, as her clothes still fit her the same.

Nonetheless this strikes me as a weird case. The child was 3.5 kg. Erin, in various before and after pics, appears to be slender. Her modelling agency gives her waist measurement as 66 cm. I mean … where the heck was this baby? Babies are slightly buoyant so this is something like a 4 L object within a narrow abdomen. To quote Austen Powers, the mechanics are mind boggling.

Going by the weight this must have been a full term baby or close on, and it really is rare for a baby to not be palpably moving within the last trimester.

Normally when you hear of these cases the mother is a large woman and/or the baby is born quite small.

dv said:

Last week, Australian model Erin Langmaid gave birth to a baby she didn’t know she was carrying.
There was a 10 minute labour, and the baby was born “blue”: a speedy heart surgery was carried out. Unfortunately Erin had been drinking alcohol regularly so I hope everything is okay.

https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/world/2019-11-18-surprise-model-had-no-idea-she-was-pregnant-until-10-minutes-before-giving-birth/

https://www.womenshealthmag.com/health/a29799786/erin-langmaid-cryptic-pregnancy/

So called “cryptic pregnancies” are not extremely rare. She was on a contraceptive implant so was not expecting menstruation. She didn’t suffer morning sickness: this is also not that uncommon.
She said she did not change in size, as her clothes still fit her the same.

Nonetheless this strikes me as a weird case. The child was 3.5 kg. Erin, in various before and after pics, appears to be slender. Her modelling agency gives her waist measurement as 66 cm. I mean … where the heck was this baby? Babies are slightly buoyant so this is something like a 4 L object within a narrow abdomen. To quote Austen Powers, the mechanics are mind boggling.

Going by the weight this must have been a full term baby or close on, and it really is rare for a baby to not be palpably moving within the last trimester.

Normally when you hear of these cases the mother is a large woman and/or the baby is born quite small.

Yes, there is a lot that is odd here.

dv said:

Last week, Australian model Erin Langmaid gave birth to a baby she didn’t know she was carrying.
There was a 10 minute labour, and the baby was born “blue”: a speedy heart surgery was carried out. Unfortunately Erin had been drinking alcohol regularly so I hope everything is okay.

https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/world/2019-11-18-surprise-model-had-no-idea-she-was-pregnant-until-10-minutes-before-giving-birth/

https://www.womenshealthmag.com/health/a29799786/erin-langmaid-cryptic-pregnancy/

So called “cryptic pregnancies” are not extremely rare. She was on a contraceptive implant so was not expecting menstruation. She didn’t suffer morning sickness: this is also not that uncommon.
She said she did not change in size, as her clothes still fit her the same.

Nonetheless this strikes me as a weird case. The child was 3.5 kg. Erin, in various before and after pics, appears to be slender. Her modelling agency gives her waist measurement as 66 cm. I mean … where the heck was this baby? Babies are slightly buoyant so this is something like a 4 L object within a narrow abdomen. To quote Austen Powers, the mechanics are mind boggling.

Going by the weight this must have been a full term baby or close on, and it really is rare for a baby to not be palpably moving within the last trimester.

Normally when you hear of these cases the mother is a large woman and/or the baby is born quite small.

> Normally when you hear of these cases the mother is a large woman and/or the baby is born quite small.

Yes. I met a mother where the baby wasn’t spotted until the third trimester, she was quite a large woman.

I’d suggest a DNA test. Stolen baby? Surrogate mother? Or simply crap reporting?

One of Mini Me’s teachers at daycare is petite. Both times she was pregnant, I never even knew because she barely showed. (As an aside, she had two babies within a year. She fell pregnant again soon after the first was born, and the second was premmie.) She knew she was pregnant though.

Women with strong stomach muscles can hide pregnancy well. Me, I looked like a beached whale.

There is another form of cryptic pregnancy where women believe they’re pregnant even when ultrasounds and blood tests are negative for pregnancy. These women believe one can be pregnant for five years; the hormones are too low to be measured and the foetus is towards the back. That part isn’t unusual, backward placentas is a real thing.

Moll: DNA tests? Really?

Divine Angel said:

One of Mini Me’s teachers at daycare is petite. Both times she was pregnant, I never even knew because she barely showed. (As an aside, she had two babies within a year. She fell pregnant again soon after the first was born, and the second was premmie.) She knew she was pregnant though.

Women with strong stomach muscles can hide pregnancy well. Me, I looked like a beached whale.

There is another form of cryptic pregnancy where women believe they’re pregnant even when ultrasounds and blood tests are negative for pregnancy. These women believe one can be pregnant for five years; the hormones are too low to be measured and the foetus is towards the back. That part isn’t unusual, backward placentas is a real thing.

Moll: DNA tests? Really?

Your petite teacher? What were the birth weights of her children?

Divine Angel said:

One of Mini Me’s teachers at daycare is petite. Both times she was pregnant, I never even knew because she barely showed. (As an aside, she had two babies within a year. She fell pregnant again soon after the first was born, and the second was premmie.) She knew she was pregnant though.

Women with strong stomach muscles can hide pregnancy well. Me, I looked like a beached whale.

There is another form of cryptic pregnancy where women believe they’re pregnant even when ultrasounds and blood tests are negative for pregnancy. These women believe one can be pregnant for five years; the hormones are too low to be measured and the foetus is towards the back. That part isn’t unusual, backward placentas is a real thing.

Moll: DNA tests? Really?

One of my sisters was a dancer and her first pregnancy you really couldn’t tell she was pregnant at all. Apparently all a stomach muscle thing.

The ten minute labour is also interesting. I would have thought that was rare for a first birth. Perhaps it was not a first. And how could speedy surgery be carried out. You are caught out with a ten minute labour, unlikely to be actually in hospital.

sibeen said:

Divine Angel said:

One of Mini Me’s teachers at daycare is petite. Both times she was pregnant, I never even knew because she barely showed. (As an aside, she had two babies within a year. She fell pregnant again soon after the first was born, and the second was premmie.) She knew she was pregnant though.

Women with strong stomach muscles can hide pregnancy well. Me, I looked like a beached whale.

There is another form of cryptic pregnancy where women believe they’re pregnant even when ultrasounds and blood tests are negative for pregnancy. These women believe one can be pregnant for five years; the hormones are too low to be measured and the foetus is towards the back. That part isn’t unusual, backward placentas is a real thing.

Moll: DNA tests? Really?

One of my sisters was a dancer and her first pregnancy you really couldn’t tell she was pregnant at all. Apparently all a stomach muscle thing.

Certainly would make a difference. Having strong abs.

buffy said:

The ten minute labour is also interesting. I would have thought that was rare for a first birth. Perhaps it was not a first. And how could speedy surgery be carried out. You are caught out with a ten minute labour, unlikely to be actually in hospital.

Definitely odd for afirst birth. Not unusal for a second birth. However this baby was stillborn?

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

The ten minute labour is also interesting. I would have thought that was rare for a first birth. Perhaps it was not a first. And how could speedy surgery be carried out. You are caught out with a ten minute labour, unlikely to be actually in hospital.

Definitely odd for afirst birth. Not unusal for a second birth. However this baby was stillborn?

Erin’s baby? No, she’s healthy and alive.

There are also other cases, that aren’t strictly “cryptic”, where they know they are pregnant but intentionally conceal the fact. In those cases the resultant baby is either quickly given away or, well, you know. Perhaps this person did know that she was pregnant but was concealling it from the boyfriend and intended to have it without his knowledge, I won’t speculate what her next move would have been. This plan may have come unstuck by the rapidness of the birth and his presence at that moment…

buffy said:

The ten minute labour is also interesting. I would have thought that was rare for a first birth. Perhaps it was not a first. And how could speedy surgery be carried out. You are caught out with a ten minute labour, unlikely to be actually in hospital.

They weren’t in a hospital but they called an ambulance for the baby immediately.

DA: those five year pregnancies sound more in the realm of phantom pregnancies, rather than cryptic.

You would think that it doesn’t matter how washing board strong the mothers stomach is the baby still has to be somewhere.

I didn’t come up with the name!
https://www.kidspot.com.au/parenting/real-life/reader-stories/meet-the-women-who-believe-theyve-pregnant-for-years/news-story/6fdacb4c57d2b8e342725d40ea59bf02

I believe I made a thread about it at the beginning of the year.

Divine Angel said:

I didn’t come up with the name!
https://www.kidspot.com.au/parenting/real-life/reader-stories/meet-the-women-who-believe-theyve-pregnant-for-years/news-story/6fdacb4c57d2b8e342725d40ea59bf02

I believe I made a thread about it at the beginning of the year.

Okay this appears to some kind of nuttery unrelated to real cryptic pregnancy which is “a pregnancy that is not recognized by the person who is pregnant until they are in labor or have given birth”.

If Erin had had an ultrasound or blood test, that pregnancy would have shown up.

dv said:

Divine Angel said:

I didn’t come up with the name!
https://www.kidspot.com.au/parenting/real-life/reader-stories/meet-the-women-who-believe-theyve-pregnant-for-years/news-story/6fdacb4c57d2b8e342725d40ea59bf02

I believe I made a thread about it at the beginning of the year.

Okay this appears to some kind of nuttery unrelated to real cryptic pregnancy which is “a pregnancy that is not recognized by the person who is pregnant until they are in labor or have given birth”.

If Erin had had an ultrasound or blood test, that pregnancy would have shown up.

Yes… the article seems to be mixing them up somewhat.

Divine Angel said:

One of Mini Me’s teachers at daycare is petite. Both times she was pregnant, I never even knew because she barely showed. (As an aside, she had two babies within a year. She fell pregnant again soon after the first was born, and the second was premmie.) She knew she was pregnant though.

Women with strong stomach muscles can hide pregnancy well. Me, I looked like a beached whale.

There is another form of cryptic pregnancy where women believe they’re pregnant even when ultrasounds and blood tests are negative for pregnancy. These women believe one can be pregnant for five years; the hormones are too low to be measured and the foetus is towards the back. That part isn’t unusual, backward placentas is a real thing.

Moll: DNA tests? Really?

No, just kidding.

I know of a person this happened to, the sister of a mate. Some of us were a bit incredulous at the news, but the family was insistent that it was a total surprise. She went to the hospital with stomach cramps and gave birth some hours later. A mad scramble to arrange and borrow baby gear followed. She was a rather plump lady, the opposite of a supermodel figure. She also already had a daughter who was high school age at the time, so she had experienced pregnancy before.

Lotsa weird pregnancies. I’ve seen phantom ones in horses.

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