Date: 9/11/2009 16:33:49
From: Happy Potter
ID: 70306
Subject: Herbs

I’m getting these, courtesy of a friend who’s potted them up for me :D
And a pot of common mint, which will stay firmly in the pot!

But of the others, is there any I can’t plant out into a special herb bed ? Basil rosemary and chives I know about, and mint, but the others I don’t.

Not to mention all the other stuff like how to look after them, sun /shade, watering ect . I know nuffin. lol

Marjoram (mmmm herb bread)
Sage
Pineapple Sage
Chives
Lemon Thyme
Variegated lemon thyme
Common thyme
Peppermint
Vietnamese mint
Rosemary
Eau de cologne mint
Lemon balm
Lemon verbena
Dill
Basil

and I think ,chocolate mint

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Date: 9/11/2009 16:38:47
From: Happy Potter
ID: 70308
Subject: re: Herbs

Oh, and oregano should be on that list .. never grown it

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Date: 9/11/2009 17:18:49
From: Dinetta
ID: 70311
Subject: re: Herbs

Dill is not supposed to like the heat, I have mine in a nice big pot where it gets a cool breeeze and nice dappled sunlight…very dappled…plenty of reflected sunlight here!!

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Date: 9/11/2009 17:19:35
From: Dinetta
ID: 70312
Subject: re: Herbs

Hang on, I’ll find an URL that shows gardening in the tropics…yes I know you’re melbourne but it got real darn hot there last year…

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Date: 9/11/2009 17:22:27
From: Dinetta
ID: 70313
Subject: re: Herbs

Okies, go here:

http://www.tropicalpermaculture.com/tropical-vegetables.html

and have a look around. I find it easy to read and applicable to my situation…there’s a page on herbs, link on LHS of this page…

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Date: 9/11/2009 17:27:03
From: Happy Potter
ID: 70315
Subject: re: Herbs

Dinetta said:


Okies, go here:

http://www.tropicalpermaculture.com/tropical-vegetables.html

and have a look around. I find it easy to read and applicable to my situation…there’s a page on herbs, link on LHS of this page…

Oh thanks :)
The climate where I am is dry though, summer winter whenever, is dry. We rarely get high humidity , just a few days a year.
But I will read up on everything :)

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Date: 9/11/2009 17:31:08
From: Dinetta
ID: 70316
Subject: re: Herbs

Pepe might know more, he (and Lucky1) have a climate similar to yours…I’m still at the experimenting stage with my herbs, apart from garlic chives, basil and parsley…some of the herbs just don’t like the afternoon sun, and some need daylong shadecloth…I have a feeling that oregano, marjoram and the thymes are in this boat…did you say Lemon Thyme? Oh you lucky thing…I’ve got it on order but the truck didn’t come in last week so I“ll have to be on my toes this Thursday…

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Date: 9/11/2009 17:33:15
From: Dinetta
ID: 70317
Subject: re: Herbs

I think you’ll find all the mints are thirsty, and don’t like the direct sun…that said, somebody in town had mint all through their lawn, but I don’t think they ever turned their tap off…is that a drizzle? do I see a drizzle? off to check…bbl…

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Date: 9/11/2009 18:53:29
From: AnneS
ID: 70325
Subject: re: Herbs

Happy Potter said:


I’m getting these, courtesy of a friend who’s potted them up for me :D
And a pot of common mint, which will stay firmly in the pot!

But of the others, is there any I can’t plant out into a special herb bed ? Basil rosemary and chives I know about, and mint, but the others I don’t.

Not to mention all the other stuff like how to look after them, sun /shade, watering ect . I know nuffin. lol

Marjoram (mmmm herb bread)
Sage
Pineapple Sage
Chives
Lemon Thyme
Variegated lemon thyme
Common thyme
Peppermint
Vietnamese mint
Rosemary
Eau de cologne mint
Lemon balm
Lemon verbena
Dill
Basil

and I think ,chocolate mint

Drool! What a great variety….I sowed some herb seeds last week (pennyroyal; dill; feverfew; sage; thyme), but the seed was so old I don’t fancy my chances.

Pineapple sage is great. It’s a red salvia and the leaves smell like pineapple when you crush them. Great for in salads. I’m
going to have to rel-locate mine. It’s not getting enough attention where it is so isn’t showing it’s potential. I used to have lemon thyme, but stupidly dug it up a couple of years ago. It’s a prostrate herb but I don’t remember any special treatment. Apart from getting adequate moisture most herbs don’t need a lot of attention as far as I know. Most of them I prefer poor soil I seem to remember.

So

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Date: 9/11/2009 19:27:45
From: pepe
ID: 70327
Subject: re: Herbs

Marjoram Lemon Thyme Variegated lemon thyme Common thyme
well behaved and tough herbs that need ordinary soil and water twice a week (- but everyday until they have taken root). these are terrific herbs and oregano is like majoram. its a ground cover so must be weeded and will sprawl for about half a metre square or a bit more. they grow for years in my area where there is no frost but might look a bit sick during melbourne’s winter. they will all take full or partial sun

Sage
sage is a salvia and likes a bit of fertility and water but as for thymes is not particularly demanding. my wife doesn’t know how to use it in cooking – so maybe you can help us. full or partial sun.

Peppermint Vietnamese mint Eau de cologne mint chocolate mint
eau de cologne is a fantastic fragrance but is a wild young thing very apt to wonder – so it’s every bit as dangerous as common mint but taller (say 600mm or 2’0” high). peppermint is self contained and not a problem – the other two i don’t know.

Lemon balm
a beautiful 400mm (16”) high well formed bush that has a big root system and is therefore very drought tolerant. spreads by seed and is not a danger. a delightful small clump of a plant. useful as lemon tea. full or partial sun.

Lemon verbena
a hard to grow 1200 – 1500mm (4’-5’) high plant with strong and sweet lemon scented leaves. very well behaved and beautiful little tree to look at or brush past. needs fertile, well drained soil with water twice a week. comes to life in the summer but does tolerate frost. a legendary herb because of its sweetness in drinks. full or partial sun.

Dill
i suspect dill, coriander and tarragon will all go to seed if planted now. but let them – they all grow again for you in winter.

i don’t recall growing pineapple sage.

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Date: 9/11/2009 19:36:07
From: Dinetta
ID: 70328
Subject: re: Herbs

Pepe, I wash the sage and just throw it in with an omlette…one or two leaves to about 2 – 3 eggs is plenty…still learning with this one…

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Date: 9/11/2009 19:37:32
From: Dinetta
ID: 70329
Subject: re: Herbs

pepe said:

Marjoram Lemon Thyme Variegated lemon thyme Common thyme
well behaved and tough herbs that need ordinary soil and water twice a week (- but everyday until they have taken root). these are terrific herbs and oregano is like majoram. its a ground cover so must be weeded and will sprawl for about half a metre square or a bit more. they grow for years in my area where there is no frost but might look a bit sick during melbourne’s winter. they will all take full or partial sun

Sage
sage is a salvia and likes a bit of fertility and water but as for thymes is not particularly demanding. my wife doesn’t know how to use it in cooking – so maybe you can help us. full or partial sun.

Peppermint Vietnamese mint Eau de cologne mint chocolate mint
eau de cologne is a fantastic fragrance but is a wild young thing very apt to wonder – so it’s every bit as dangerous as common mint but taller (say 600mm or 2’0” high). peppermint is self contained and not a problem – the other two i don’t know.

Lemon balm
a beautiful 400mm (16”) high well formed bush that has a big root system and is therefore very drought tolerant. spreads by seed and is not a danger. a delightful small clump of a plant. useful as lemon tea. full or partial sun.

Lemon verbena
a hard to grow 1200 – 1500mm (4’-5’) high plant with strong and sweet lemon scented leaves. very well behaved and beautiful little tree to look at or brush past. needs fertile, well drained soil with water twice a week. comes to life in the summer but does tolerate frost. a legendary herb because of its sweetness in drinks. full or partial sun.

Dill
i suspect dill, coriander and tarragon will all go to seed if planted now. but let them – they all grow again for you in winter.

i don’t recall growing pineapple sage.

Enjoyable read there, Pepe

:)

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Date: 9/11/2009 19:57:44
From: Happy Potter
ID: 70332
Subject: re: Herbs

Dinetta said:


pepe said:

Marjoram Lemon Thyme Variegated lemon thyme Common thyme
well behaved and tough herbs that need ordinary soil and water twice a week (- but everyday until they have taken root). these are terrific herbs and oregano is like majoram. its a ground cover so must be weeded and will sprawl for about half a metre square or a bit more. they grow for years in my area where there is no frost but might look a bit sick during melbourne’s winter. they will all take full or partial sun

Sage
sage is a salvia and likes a bit of fertility and water but as for thymes is not particularly demanding. my wife doesn’t know how to use it in cooking – so maybe you can help us. full or partial sun.

Peppermint Vietnamese mint Eau de cologne mint chocolate mint
eau de cologne is a fantastic fragrance but is a wild young thing very apt to wonder – so it’s every bit as dangerous as common mint but taller (say 600mm or 2’0” high). peppermint is self contained and not a problem – the other two i don’t know.

Lemon balm
a beautiful 400mm (16”) high well formed bush that has a big root system and is therefore very drought tolerant. spreads by seed and is not a danger. a delightful small clump of a plant. useful as lemon tea. full or partial sun.

Lemon verbena
a hard to grow 1200 – 1500mm (4’-5’) high plant with strong and sweet lemon scented leaves. very well behaved and beautiful little tree to look at or brush past. needs fertile, well drained soil with water twice a week. comes to life in the summer but does tolerate frost. a legendary herb because of its sweetness in drinks. full or partial sun.

Dill
i suspect dill, coriander and tarragon will all go to seed if planted now. but let them – they all grow again for you in winter.

i don’t recall growing pineapple sage.

Enjoyable read there, Pepe

:)

Absolutely! Thanks. Thanks AnneS too..I can find some info on a few , but I’m amazed at the differences in height and growing preferences of the lot I’m getting. I jus thought one little bed should do it ! LOL I have to open my eyes..I will have to sort out what stays in a pot and whatnot.

I’ve not used sage before Pepe, but I did have Gnocci with sage butter at a friends and it was reallyyyy yummy, description self explanitory.
I’ll be looking forward to growing and using all the herbs :)

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Date: 9/11/2009 20:47:09
From: pepe
ID: 70337
Subject: re: Herbs

Dinetta said:


Pepe, I wash the sage and just throw it in with an omlette…one or two leaves to about 2 – 3 eggs is plenty…still learning with this one…

ok – i’ll try sage with eggs – thanks dinetta.

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Date: 9/11/2009 20:55:57
From: pepe
ID: 70339
Subject: re: Herbs

but I did have Gnocci with sage butter
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ok sage butter – i’m learning
does anyone know the medicinal props of sage?

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Date: 9/11/2009 21:08:22
From: bluegreen
ID: 70342
Subject: re: Herbs

sage and onion stuffing in your roast chook

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Date: 9/11/2009 21:16:24
From: bon008
ID: 70344
Subject: re: Herbs

Sage is herb of the month on the WA Herb Society website:

http://www.herbsocietywa.com/herbofthemonth

“Through the ages, Sage was believed to improve memory, bestow wisdom and long life. Some even thought it could bring immortality. Modern scientists may well be able to provide a scientific explanation of the 17th century herbalist John Gerard who said that Sage “helpeth a weake braine or memory and restoreth them from being decayed in a short time”. Researchers from Newcastle Upon Tyne have discovered that Sage oil inhibits an enzyme known as (AChE) which may play a part in memory loss in Alzheimer’s disease. Modern drugs used to slow the progress of this disease can have unpleasant side effects including liver damage. Of 15 Herbs tested, Sage oil was the most promising and further tests are being carried out. “

There’s more info on uses, too.

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Date: 9/11/2009 21:20:27
From: CollieWA
ID: 70346
Subject: re: Herbs

>and I think ,chocolate mint

Whoever develops an after dinner mint bush will make a motza!

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Date: 9/11/2009 22:15:14
From: pepe
ID: 70349
Subject: re: Herbs

Sage is herb of the month on the WA Herb Society website:
http://www.herbsocietywa.com/herbofthemonth
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thanks bon.
sage is a beautiful looking plant. sage green is one of the best green colours too.
i never knew of its antiseptic properties.
i doubt the ‘wisdom’ theory – a bit like the aphrodisiac props some herbs claim.

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Date: 9/11/2009 22:20:14
From: bon008
ID: 70351
Subject: re: Herbs

pepe said:

sage is a beautiful looking plant. sage green is one of the best green colours too.
i never knew of its antiseptic properties.
i doubt the ‘wisdom’ theory – a bit like the aphrodisiac props some herbs claim.

Sage green is probably my favourite colour :)

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Date: 9/11/2009 22:36:30
From: AnneS
ID: 70355
Subject: re: Herbs

bon008 said:

Sage green is probably my favourite colour :)

Goodness bon. Another thing in common; green is our favourite colour! Although mine is emerald/bottle green (a bit like the baclground here!)

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Date: 9/11/2009 23:12:12
From: roughbarked
ID: 70360
Subject: re: Herbs

Happy Potter said:


I’m getting these, courtesy of a friend who’s potted them up for me :D
And a pot of common mint, which will stay firmly in the pot!

But of the others, is there any I can’t plant out into a special herb bed ? Basil rosemary and chives I know about, and mint, but the others I don’t.

Not to mention all the other stuff like how to look after them, sun /shade, watering ect . I know nuffin. lol

Marjoram (mmmm herb bread)
Sage
Pineapple Sage
Chives
Lemon Thyme
Variegated lemon thyme
Common thyme
Peppermint
Vietnamese mint
Rosemary
Eau de cologne mint
Lemon balm
Lemon verbena
Dill
Basil

and I think ,chocolate mint

off the top of my head without looking anything up..

•Majoram is pretty much the same cultivation as oregano.. can tolerate frost and drought quite well and love a sunny spot, just as long as they do get a bit of water occasionally. easily grown from cuttings or seed
•Sage is tough too but more susceptible to drought and frost than others on this list but with many herbs in this family they can be cut back and will regrow in spring. Again prefers a sunny spot. Can be easily grown from cuttings or seed.
•Pineapple sage is a bit softer and requires a bit more care..
•Chives are lovers of sun but also like good watering to perform well. Can be easily divided into clumps which will multiply.. also easily grown from seed.. sow during spring and autummn to midwinter. great in pots or at an easy garden edge near the kitchen which is where I try to grow all my herbs.
•Lemon thyme is tough and loves a hot place that gets watered. Is tougher than ordinary thyme, is prettier and tastes great. Easily grown from bits torn off the mother plant. frost hardy. A great border plant.
•Common Thyme: as above
•Peppermint just such a wonderful herb .. Cures hangovers headaches and stomach upsets. Have to keep some in the garden. tolerates sun if you keep it flooded.. prefers a bit of a ramble into slightly shadier territory but performs best in full sun with more water than the herbs above. Most mints prefer water. This mint is one which should preferably be kept in a tub as it will spread rapidly like kikuyu if given the conditions it likes.. yet will die on hot days if the soil is dry. grows from any bit of runner… prteferably with a couple of roots attached. or tip cuttings. Marvellous in flower but needs to be cut back during late winter.
•Careful .. caution with anything known as Vietnamese mint.. it could actually be alligator weed .. on the noxious list. Otherwise I don’t know much about Vietnamese mint.
•Rosemary possibly the toughest plant on the list.. Get it established and leave it to itself. grows from bits like all the others above.
•Eau De Cologne mint .. same as peppermint, spearmint, apple mint, and common mint.. etc. though less invasive but stinks .. like a bottle of perfume.
•Lemon balm.. Melissa officinalis.. the officinalis part means that this is an officially recognised medical herb of merit. No garden should be without this aromatic herb.. named after its likenes to the honey bee. grows as easily as any mint and seeds profusely.. one may choose to keep it away from other plants as it may become a bit of a weed, albeit a nice weed.. hates drought but comes back easily. If you don’t want all that many plants it is easiest of the mints to kill.
•Lemon Verbena I have never grown.. couldn’t really see the need for it.
•Dill like fennel, aniseed and parsley are biennial which means they flower and seed in their second season, then die.. All have strong roots and can tolerate periods of prolonged aridty if there is water down there somewhere. They do however respond quite well to watering.. allow them to self sow. Can stand a tough spot where the soil is rarely dug..
•Basil hates frost but will hang in until it has made seed.. the seed germinates readily but it is not drought hardy, unless it is watered it will die. Can be struck from cuttings easily, leave a growing tip in a glass of water it will grow roots easily. There is a greek basil and purple basil .. flavours differ slightly but I love them all. Again great border plants.

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Date: 10/11/2009 05:19:51
From: Happy Potter
ID: 70365
Subject: re: Herbs

Oh wow , what a terrific lot you are, so much info on herbs and they all sound wonderful!
I don’t know how I’ve got this far and not delved into the world of herbs (apart from the staples rosemary basil parsley and chives that I grow) , especially being a cook!

Sage advise Bonn :P

Some fun growing coming up! :D

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Date: 10/11/2009 07:44:29
From: Dinetta
ID: 70394
Subject: re: Herbs

This is what my Vietnamese mint looks like…hope it’s not alligator weed! Tastes like coriander to start with, then gets hot on the tongue…

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://www.masdudiable.com/A55C37/mdd.nsf/dx/374-Herb_Laksa-May08.jpg/%24file/374-Herb_Laksa-May08.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.masdudiable.com/A55C37/mdd.nsf/dx/Asian-Herbs-for-the-Kitchen.htm&h=281&w=374&sz=49&tbnid=bOUNVz7VUWkPDM:&tbnh=92&tbnw=122&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dvietnamese%2Bmint&usg=__4RUjMMS7clsiwU0v0u4NTFjH46g=&ei=NH74StfvOoa0swPCkLEO&sa=X&oi=image_result&resnum=8&ct=image&ved=0CBwQ9QEwBw

(scroll down this page to Vietnamese Mint – under “V”,,,

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Date: 10/11/2009 07:46:38
From: Longy
ID: 70395
Subject: re: Herbs

This is what my Vietnamese mint looks like
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Nice looking plant. Make a good groundcover from the looks of it.
I imagine it likes plenty moisture and protection???

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Date: 10/11/2009 07:54:33
From: Dinetta
ID: 70398
Subject: re: Herbs

Hi Longy, I was off setting the kettle to boil…

I only just bought this Vietnamese mint late September, it is in a 12” deep water-well pot with my common mint…If I have a talent in the garden, it’s for killing mint, hence this pot, which is situated under a tap in the morning sun…all my taps leak so I have plants under them and rotate the pots…this tap has a very old ribbed stocking (as in it was fashionable when the “knitted hosiery” look was In) that makes sure the leak goes into the pot…the well in the bottom is full of sand, to keep the mozzies down and the frogs up…

It seems to do much better in shade than the common mint, which has been looking for sun…and I should imagine that in the right spot in your high rainfall area, it would cope with a lot of tip-pruning, once established of course…don’t take me as Gospel tho’!!

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Date: 10/11/2009 07:56:56
From: Dinetta
ID: 70401
Subject: re: Herbs

Longy said:


This is what my Vietnamese mint looks like
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Nice looking plant. Make a good groundcover from the looks of it.
I imagine it likes plenty moisture and protection???

Protection from ?????? Wind, sun or both?

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Date: 10/11/2009 08:01:17
From: Dinetta
ID: 70403
Subject: re: Herbs

roughbarked said:


Happy Potter said:

I’m getting these, courtesy of a friend who’s potted them up for me :D
And a pot of common mint, which will stay firmly in the pot!

But of the others, is there any I can’t plant out into a special herb bed ? Basil rosemary and chives I know about, and mint, but the others I don’t.

off the top of my head without looking anything up..

etc

Loaded with info there, RoughBarked! I think I’ll copy and save yours and Pepe’s posts as the way you both explain things makes it easy for me to adapt the info for up here…

:)

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Date: 10/11/2009 08:01:30
From: pomolo
ID: 70404
Subject: re: Herbs

Happy Potter said:


Oh, and oregano should be on that list .. never grown it

I think Oregano and Marjoram are very similar.

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Date: 10/11/2009 08:01:40
From: Longy
ID: 70405
Subject: re: Herbs

Dinetta said:


Longy said:

This is what my Vietnamese mint looks like
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Nice looking plant. Make a good groundcover from the looks of it.
I imagine it likes plenty moisture and protection???

Protection from ?????? Wind, sun or both?

Well, both i s’pose. They have similar effects as far as drying out is concerned.
I’m guess ing it would like a mostly shaded moist posi, on a Nth eastern aspect.
Woud that work?

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Date: 10/11/2009 08:09:14
From: Dinetta
ID: 70407
Subject: re: Herbs

From my observations, north eastern would be ideal…this tap is in the south-eastern corner with potential for blasts from the south-western afternoon sun later in the year, however I think there’ s sufficient paddock shade to ward off the worst of that…

Longy, just put it in a water-well pot and try different situations, see how it goes…

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Date: 10/11/2009 08:10:37
From: Longy
ID: 70408
Subject: re: Herbs

Dinetta said:


From my observations, north eastern would be ideal…this tap is in the south-eastern corner with potential for blasts from the south-western afternoon sun later in the year, however I think there’ s sufficient paddock shade to ward off the worst of that…

Longy, just put it in a water-well pot and try different situations, see how it goes…

Yeah i don’t actually have any, but i’ll find some. Probably be a good plant alongside my dam. Is it a potential weed?

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Date: 10/11/2009 08:15:49
From: Dinetta
ID: 70413
Subject: re: Herbs

Longy said:

Yeah i don’t actually have any, but i’ll find some. Probably be a good plant alongside my dam. Is it a potential weed?

Yes it is, apparently…I’m not sure if it’s OK for livestock either?

My plant just happened to be in stock…apparently what turns up on the truck of a Thursday morning can be a bit of a surprise package…the truck did not come last Thursday…I am waiting on some Lemon Thyme but I digress…

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Date: 10/11/2009 08:16:43
From: Longy
ID: 70415
Subject: re: Herbs

Yes it is, apparently…I’m not sure if it’s OK for livestock either?
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OK. Noted. I’ll maybe put it under the palm trees by the pond then.

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Date: 10/11/2009 08:17:53
From: pomolo
ID: 70417
Subject: re: Herbs

AnneS said:


bon008 said:

Sage green is probably my favourite colour :)

Goodness bon. Another thing in common; green is our favourite colour! Although mine is emerald/bottle green (a bit like the baclground here!)

I’m a green person too. I like all greens. From pale apple green to deep British Racing green.

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Date: 10/11/2009 08:40:57
From: Dinetta
ID: 70428
Subject: re: Herbs

Longy said:


Dinetta said:

Longy said:

This is what my Vietnamese mint looks like
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Nice looking plant. Make a good groundcover from the looks of it.
I imagine it likes plenty moisture and protection???

Protection from ?????? Wind, sun or both?

Well, both i s’pose. They have similar effects as far as drying out is concerned.
I’m guess ing it would like a mostly shaded moist posi, on a Nth eastern aspect.
Woud that work?

This is a tip most of the ladies would know: the wind dries laundry faster than sunshine. Winds, especially dry ones, are more sneaky with the dehydration than the hot sunshine…just as bad, just less noticeable until the damage is done…

That said, the particular tap where the mints now live, is rather shaded and sheltered, so yes, it’s protected…. the others get either too much morning or afternoon sun in summer…

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Date: 10/11/2009 08:44:59
From: Dinetta
ID: 70432
Subject: re: Herbs

http://ozgrow.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=2982
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Try here, read the whole thread…

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Date: 10/11/2009 09:00:32
From: roughbarked
ID: 70437
Subject: re: Herbs

if your Vietnamese coriander(mint) is properly Polygonum odoratum then it shouldn’t be Alternanthera philoxeroides which is Alligator weed.
Which was brought into Australia by Asian immigrants illegally for use as a culinary herb and has since blocked many waterways.

However from your description of its growth rate I would be equally concerned about making sure this doesn’t escape into the bush.

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Date: 10/11/2009 09:16:23
From: Dinetta
ID: 70442
Subject: re: Herbs

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persicaria_odorata
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Try here, RoughBarked…they say it’s not a true mint…

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Date: 10/11/2009 09:22:10
From: roughbarked
ID: 70446
Subject: re: Herbs

not a true mint and suffers from cold weather but is perennial and rapidly spreading so do destroy any that you weed out properly.

Weeds in Australia populate worse than rabbits.

This is the very treason that most of this land is already blanketed by weeds. I’d rather that we all used Prostanthera species for minty flavours.

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Date: 10/11/2009 09:43:02
From: shell bell
ID: 70453
Subject: re: Herbs

pepe said:


but I did have Gnocci with sage butter
———
ok sage butter – i’m learning
does anyone know the medicinal props of sage?

I make up a sage hair rinse for Miss B, helps to darken grey hair and is a good tonic for the scalp. Add to some vaseline and you get a hair wax like product for styling, just dont use too much.

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Date: 10/11/2009 09:56:48
From: roughbarked
ID: 70456
Subject: re: Herbs

shell bell said:


pepe said:

but I did have Gnocci with sage butter
———
ok sage butter – i’m learning
does anyone know the medicinal props of sage?

I make up a sage hair rinse for Miss B, helps to darken grey hair and is a good tonic for the scalp. Add to some vaseline and you get a hair wax like product for styling, just dont use too much.

Salvia officinalis .. there’s that officinalis .. again.. ;)

from Wiki: The Latin name for sage, salvia, means “to heal”. Although the effectiveness of Common Sage is open to debate, it has been recommended at one time or another for virtually every ailment. Modern evidence supports its effects as an anhidrotic, antibiotic, antifungal, astringent, antispasmodic, estrogenic, hypoglycemic, and tonic. In a double blind, randomized and placebo-controlled trial, sage was found to be effective in the management of mild to moderate Alzheimer’s disease.
The strongest active constituents of Sage are within its essential oil, which contains cineole, borneol, and thujone. Sage leaf contains tannic acid, oleic acid, ursonic acid, ursolic acid, cornsole, cornsolic acid, fumaric acid, chlorogenic acid, caffeic acid, niacin, nicotinamide, flavones, flavonoid glycosides, and estrogenic substances.
Caution is indicated when used in conjunction with central nervous system stimulants or depressants. Sage is used as a nootropic for its acetylcholinesterase inhibitor properties. An “Acetylcholinesterase Inhibitor” promotes the availabilty of Acetylcholine.

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Date: 10/11/2009 10:04:54
From: pepe
ID: 70457
Subject: re: Herbs

Sage is used as a nootropic for its acetylcholinesterase inhibitor properties. An “Acetylcholinesterase Inhibitor” promotes the availabilty of Acetylcholine.
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really – is that clean?
best we use our own words – like in your original rundown of the herbs.

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Date: 10/11/2009 10:20:40
From: roughbarked
ID: 70462
Subject: re: Herbs

pepe said:


Sage is used as a nootropic for its acetylcholinesterase inhibitor properties. An “Acetylcholinesterase Inhibitor” promotes the availabilty of Acetylcholine.
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really – is that clean?
best we use our own words – like in your original rundown of the herbs.

;)
Yar matey.

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Date: 10/11/2009 10:30:33
From: pepe
ID: 70467
Subject: re: Herbs

I don’t know how I’ve got this far and not delved into the world of herbs (apart from the staples rosemary basil parsley and chives that I grow) , especially being a cook!
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plant the marjoram, thymes and parsley close to the kitchen door. they can be planted between anything else and save heaps in money and are just there when the recipe requires.

basil is the taste of summer – but you know that one. it does make a great border plant.

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Date: 10/11/2009 10:42:20
From: CollieWA
ID: 70472
Subject: re: Herbs

This is what my Vietnamese mint looks like…hope it’s not alligator weed! Tastes like coriander to start with, then gets hot on the tongue…

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://www.masdudiable.com/A55C37/mdd.nsf/dx/374-Herb_Laksa-May08.jpg/%24file/374-Herb_Laksa-May08.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.masdudiable.com/A55C37/mdd.nsf/dx/Asian-Herbs-for-the-Kitchen.htm&h=281&w=374&sz=49&tbnid=bOUNVz7VUWkPDM:&tbnh=92&tbnw=122&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dvietnamese%2Bmint&usg=__4RUjMMS7clsiwU0v0u4NTFjH46g=&ei=NH74StfvOoa0swPCkLEO&sa=X&oi=image_result&resnum=8&ct=image&ved=0CBwQ9QEwBw

===========================

Looks like a three line URL, but it could be alligator weed!

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Date: 10/11/2009 10:54:49
From: Dinetta
ID: 70480
Subject: re: Herbs

shell bell said:


pepe said:

but I did have Gnocci with sage butter
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ok sage butter – i’m learning
does anyone know the medicinal props of sage?

I make up a sage hair rinse for Miss B, helps to darken grey hair and is a good tonic for the scalp. Add to some vaseline and you get a hair wax like product for styling, just dont use too much.

I like this!

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Date: 10/11/2009 11:02:46
From: Dinetta
ID: 70485
Subject: re: Herbs

CollieWA said:


This is what my Vietnamese mint looks like…hope it’s not alligator weed! Tastes like coriander to start with, then gets hot on the tongue…

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://www.masdudiable.com/A55C37/mdd.nsf/dx/374-Herb_Laksa-May08.jpg/%24file/374-Herb_Laksa-May08.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.masdudiable.com/A55C37/mdd.nsf/dx/Asian-Herbs-for-the-Kitchen.htm&h=281&w=374&sz=49&tbnid=bOUNVz7VUWkPDM:&tbnh=92&tbnw=122&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dvietnamese%2Bmint&usg=__4RUjMMS7clsiwU0v0u4NTFjH46g=&ei=NH74StfvOoa0swPCkLEO&sa=X&oi=image_result&resnum=8&ct=image&ved=0CBwQ9QEwBw

===========================

Looks like a three line URL, but it could be alligator weed!

I’ve googled for alligator weed, and mine is not that…mine has the purple markings which indicate Vietnamese mint, plus when we taste test the leaves, they taste like coriander to start and then go spicy as the flavour is released…

Yes it’s a big URL isn’t it?

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Date: 10/11/2009 11:25:57
From: Happy Potter
ID: 70493
Subject: re: Herbs

pepe said:


I don’t know how I’ve got this far and not delved into the world of herbs (apart from the staples rosemary basil parsley and chives that I grow) , especially being a cook!
——————————————————————————————————-
plant the marjoram, thymes and parsley close to the kitchen door. they can be planted between anything else and save heaps in money and are just there when the recipe requires.

basil is the taste of summer – but you know that one. it does make a great border plant.

I have basil planted in front of tomato seedlings. They are surviving the heat but only because I’ve shadeclothed ‘em. Quite a few of those herb plant I’m getting , in the next few days, will go in pots .. I need time to sort where to put what and what needs sun/ shade ect

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Date: 10/11/2009 11:26:30
From: CollieWA
ID: 70494
Subject: re: Herbs

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://www.masdudiable.com/A55C37/mdd.nsf/dx/374-Herb_Laksa-May08.jpg/%24file/374-Herb_Laksa-May08.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.masdudiable.com/A55C37/mdd.nsf/dx/Asian-Herbs-for-the-Kitchen.htm&h=281&w=374&sz=49&tbnid=bOUNVz7VUWkPDM:&tbnh=92&tbnw=122&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dvietnamese%2Bmint&usg=__4RUjMMS7clsiwU0v0u4NTFjH46g=&ei=NH74StfvOoa0swPCkLEO&sa=X&oi=image_result&resnum=8&ct=image&ved=0CBwQ9QEwBw

Yes it’s a big URL isn’t it?

=========

You need tinyurl.com. Go to http://tinyurl.com/create.php and paste in the url in the box. Press the button.

Here’s one I prepared earlier..

It says:

TinyURL was created!

The following URL:

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://www.masdudiab le.com/A55C37/mdd.nsf/dx/374-Herb_Laksa-May08.jpg/%24file/37 4-Herb_Laksa-May08.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.masdudiable.com/ A55C37/mdd.nsf/dx/Asian-Herbs-for-the-Kitchen.htm&h=281&w=37 4&sz=49&tbnid=bOUNVz7VUWkPDM:&tbnh=92&tbnw=122&prev=/images% 3Fq%3Dvietnamese%2Bmint&usg=__4RUjMMS7clsiwU0v0u4NTFjH46g=&e i=NH74StfvOoa0swPCkLEO&sa=X&oi=image_result&resnum=8&ct=imag e&ved=0CBwQ9QEwBw

has a length of 437 characters and resulted in the following TinyURL which has a length of 26 characters:

http://tinyurl.com/yftxmhw

So… 437 characters to 26 characters has gotta be good…

If you have Firefox you can add an extension which will do this easily. You can then right click the url, select “Create tinyurl”. Then right click and paste it where you want the short url. Easy.

Go to https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/10586?src=api and click the “Add to Firefox” button. Allow firefox to restart and you’re sorted.

If you are still using Internet Exploder you need to go HERE to upgrade.

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Date: 10/11/2009 11:28:11
From: bon008
ID: 70495
Subject: re: Herbs

CollieWA said:

If you are still using Internet Exploder you need to go HERE to upgrade.

Nah.. unless you are doing web dev work, I reckon skip FF and go straight to shiny, fast Chrome :) mmm, Chrome..

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Date: 10/11/2009 11:33:48
From: CollieWA
ID: 70499
Subject: re: Herbs

>I reckon skip FF and go straight to shiny, fast Chrome :) mmm, Chrome..

Not sure Chrome is on Linux. Yet. Or that they take firefox extensions. I like firefox extensions.

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Date: 10/11/2009 11:35:29
From: bon008
ID: 70501
Subject: re: Herbs

CollieWA said:


>I reckon skip FF and go straight to shiny, fast Chrome :) mmm, Chrome..

Not sure Chrome is on Linux. Yet. Or that they take firefox extensions. I like firefox extensions.

I use a lot of FF extensions for work purposes, but for just casual browsing I love Chrome.

Hmm – why are we discussing this in Herbs?? Whoops :D

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Date: 10/11/2009 11:37:02
From: CollieWA
ID: 70502
Subject: re: Herbs

>Hmm – why are we discussing this in Herbs?? Whoops :D

Too much ummm herbs ??????????

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Date: 10/11/2009 11:50:38
From: roughbarked
ID: 70503
Subject: re: Herbs

CollieWA said:


>Hmm – why are we discussing this in Herbs?? Whoops :D

Too much ummm herbs ??????????

eating herbs is better for your health than smoking them ;)

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Date: 10/11/2009 12:28:17
From: Dinetta
ID: 70514
Subject: re: Herbs

CollieWA said:

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://www.masdudiable.com/A55C37/mdd.nsf/dx/374-Herb_Laksa-May08.jpg/%24file/374-Herb_Laksa-May08.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.masdudiable.com/A55C37/mdd.nsf/dx/Asian-Herbs-for-the-Kitchen.htm&h=281&w=374&sz=49&tbnid=bOUNVz7VUWkPDM:&tbnh=92&tbnw=122&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dvietnamese%2Bmint&usg=__4RUjMMS7clsiwU0v0u4NTFjH46g=&ei=NH74StfvOoa0swPCkLEO&sa=X&oi=image_result&resnum=8&ct=image&ved=0CBwQ9QEwBw

Yes it’s a big URL isn’t it?

=========

You need tinyurl.com. Go to http://tinyurl.com/create.php and paste in the url in the box. Press the button.

Here’s one I prepared earlier..

It says:

TinyURL was created!

The following URL:

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://www.masdudiab le.com/A55C37/mdd.nsf/dx/374-Herb_Laksa-May08.jpg/%24file/37 4-Herb_Laksa-May08.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.masdudiable.com/ A55C37/mdd.nsf/dx/Asian-Herbs-for-the-Kitchen.htm&h=281&w=37 4&sz=49&tbnid=bOUNVz7VUWkPDM:&tbnh=92&tbnw=122&prev=/images% 3Fq%3Dvietnamese%2Bmint&usg=__4RUjMMS7clsiwU0v0u4NTFjH46g=&e i=NH74StfvOoa0swPCkLEO&sa=X&oi=image_result&resnum=8&ct=imag e&ved=0CBwQ9QEwBw

has a length of 437 characters and resulted in the following TinyURL which has a length of 26 characters:

http://tinyurl.com/yftxmhw

So… 437 characters to 26 characters has gotta be good…

If you have Firefox you can add an extension which will do this easily. You can then right click the url, select “Create tinyurl”. Then right click and paste it where you want the short url. Easy.

Go to https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/10586?src=api and click the “Add to Firefox” button. Allow firefox to restart and you’re sorted.

If you are still using Internet Exploder you need to go HERE to upgrade.

blink blink blink

Thanks Collie! I’ll follow this through later after I’ve broken the back of this office work here…

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Date: 10/11/2009 21:01:35
From: roughbarked
ID: 70578
Subject: re: Herbs

many website administrators pull their hair out upon seeing tiny url’s

there are other ways to limit them.
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Date: 10/11/2009 21:11:08
From: CollieWA
ID: 70586
Subject: re: Herbs

>many website administrators pull their hair out upon seeing tiny url’s

Why?

Your browser goes via the tinyurl server and is redirected back to the original url.

If they want to be able to do analysis based on the site the viwer came from, they need to have a long hard look at themselves. The three line url is a joke.

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Date: 10/11/2009 21:12:52
From: roughbarked
ID: 70588
Subject: re: Herbs

CollieWA said:


>many website administrators pull their hair out upon seeing tiny url’s

Why?

Your browser goes via the tinyurl server and is redirected back to the original url.

If they want to be able to do analysis based on the site the viwer came from, they need to have a long hard look at themselves. The three line url is a joke.

Not arguing.. just telling..

users shoud be smart enough to make their own tiny url’s without involving tiny.
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Date: 10/11/2009 21:24:48
From: CollieWA
ID: 70593
Subject: re: Herbs

>users shoud be smart enough to make their own tiny url’s without involving tiny.

I’m no bunny on a computer, but I don’t know how to do that. I can find the IP address, but not to he specifc content a 3 line url points to within a site..
Unless I were to use a tinyurl replacement like bit.ly. Or run my own redirection lookup.

Are tinyurl a problem RB?

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Date: 10/11/2009 22:32:43
From: roughbarked
ID: 70609
Subject: re: Herbs

CollieWA said:

Are tinyurl a problem RB?

<quote>.. SSFF/techForums.. moderator.. // Please desist from using tiny url’s on these forums…<unquote>

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Date: 10/11/2009 22:32:45
From: roughbarked
ID: 70610
Subject: re: Herbs

CollieWA said:

Are tinyurl a problem RB?

<quote>.. SSFF/techForums.. moderator.. // Please desist from using tiny url’s on these forums…<unquote>

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Date: 10/11/2009 22:37:14
From: bluegreen
ID: 70612
Subject: re: Herbs

in this forum you can attach a link to a keyword by putting double quotes around keyword/s followed by a colon and then the link. The link address is hidden so all you see is the keyword which is clickable.

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Date: 10/11/2009 22:41:09
From: roughbarked
ID: 70614
Subject: re: Herbs

bluegreen said:


in this forum you can attach a link to a keyword by putting double quotes around keyword/s followed by a colon and then the link. The link address is hidden so all you see is the keyword which is clickable.

this is.. are you reading me?.. not hidden..

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Date: 10/11/2009 22:53:16
From: bluegreen
ID: 70618
Subject: re: Herbs

roughbarked said:


bluegreen said:

in this forum you can attach a link to a keyword by putting double quotes around keyword/s followed by a colon and then the link. The link address is hidden so all you see is the keyword which is clickable.

this is.. are you reading me?.. not hidden..

sorry, I don’t follow

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Date: 11/11/2009 14:13:03
From: roughbarked
ID: 70697
Subject: re: Herbs

sorry, I don’t follow

>

hidden links.. just view source..

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Date: 11/11/2009 14:32:26
From: bon008
ID: 70713
Subject: re: Herbs

roughbarked said:


sorry, I don’t follow

>

hidden links.. just view source..

Yeh I don’t think that anyone was suggesting that you can’t find the link if you want to. Just that it looks nicer when you provide a short text link instead of a massive 3-line URL.

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Date: 11/11/2009 14:34:21
From: roughbarked
ID: 70715
Subject: re: Herbs

bon008 said:


roughbarked said:

sorry, I don’t follow

>

hidden links.. just view source..

Yeh I don’t think that anyone was suggesting that you can’t find the link if you want to. Just that it looks nicer when you provide a short text link instead of a massive 3-line URL.

There are other ways..

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Date: 11/11/2009 15:22:45
From: bluegreen
ID: 70716
Subject: re: Herbs

bon008 said:


roughbarked said:

sorry, I don’t follow

>

hidden links.. just view source..

Yeh I don’t think that anyone was suggesting that you can’t find the link if you want to. Just that it looks nicer when you provide a short text link instead of a massive 3-line URL.

what she said :)

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Date: 11/11/2009 15:44:46
From: bon008
ID: 70717
Subject: re: Herbs

But speaking of herbs.. we harvested our basil for the first time last night :) For pizza.. yum!

After a slow start, the basil has done really well. Much more resistant to slater attack than the beans and rocket.

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Date: 11/11/2009 15:52:02
From: roughbarked
ID: 70718
Subject: re: Herbs

bon008 said:


But speaking of herbs.. we harvested our basil for the first time last night :) For pizza.. yum!

After a slow start, the basil has done really well. Much more resistant to slater attack than the beans and rocket.

Basil is like marijuana.. nothing attacks it apart from humans and goats.

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Date: 11/11/2009 16:02:31
From: bon008
ID: 70719
Subject: re: Herbs

roughbarked said:


bon008 said:

But speaking of herbs.. we harvested our basil for the first time last night :) For pizza.. yum!

After a slow start, the basil has done really well. Much more resistant to slater attack than the beans and rocket.

Basil is like marijuana.. nothing attacks it apart from humans and goats.

I did catch the slaters attacking it in the early days – and they left some gnaw marks behind – but as the basil got larger the slaters seemed to give up.

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