Date: 10/12/2019 16:21:11
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1471922
Subject: Plants May Let Out Ultrasonic Squeals When Stressed

Bloody vegans!

>>If a drought-parched plant lets out a scream, but it’s at a frequency too high to hear, does it count as a cry of distress? According to a study posted on the preprint server bioRxiv last week, the answer could very well be yes. (And we’re not talking about folklorish mandrakes.)

For the first time, researchers appear to have evidence that, like animals, plants can audibly vocalize their agony when deprived of water or forced to endure bodily harm. The study, which has yet to be published in a peer-reviewed scientific journal, adds another dimension to scientists’ growing understanding of how plants detect and interact with their surroundings—despite lacking many of the sensory organs their faunal counterparts deploy.

In recent years, it’s become abundantly clear that plants are far more sensitive than researchers once gave them credit for. They respond when touched by insects, turn toward sources of light, and some even sniff out other plants. Others are even sensitive to anesthetics, suggesting that they’re capable of experiencing something akin to “pain.”

“Plants are not just robotic, stimulus-response devices,” Frantisek Baluska of the University of Bonn in Germany told Joanna Klein at the New York Times last year. “They’re living organisms which have their own problems.”<<

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/scientists-record-stressed-out-plants-emitting-ultrasonic-squeals-180973716/

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Date: 10/12/2019 16:27:55
From: Cymek
ID: 1471927
Subject: re: Plants May Let Out Ultrasonic Squeals When Stressed

I imagine it would be something you could test and perhaps the claim plants respond to music has some validity.

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Date: 10/12/2019 16:49:10
From: furious
ID: 1471944
Subject: re: Plants May Let Out Ultrasonic Squeals When Stressed

Not sure why they are anthropomorphising this as a “scream”. The plants aren’t actively making the sound, it is a physical reaction to the event…

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Date: 10/12/2019 16:59:12
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1471952
Subject: re: Plants May Let Out Ultrasonic Squeals When Stressed

furious said:


Not sure why they are anthropomorphising this as a “scream”. The plants aren’t actively making the sound, it is a physical reaction to the event…

If you read the article you would discover that they ARE making a sound, only beyond our hearing.

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Date: 10/12/2019 17:03:04
From: furious
ID: 1471954
Subject: re: Plants May Let Out Ultrasonic Squeals When Stressed

If you read what I wrote, I didn’t say that they weren’t making a sound, only they weren’t “actively” making the sound and they certainly aren’t screaming…

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Date: 10/12/2019 17:09:09
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1471958
Subject: re: Plants May Let Out Ultrasonic Squeals When Stressed

furious said:

  • If you read the article you would discover that they ARE making a sound, only beyond our hearing.

If you read what I wrote, I didn’t say that they weren’t making a sound, only they weren’t “actively” making the sound and they certainly aren’t screaming…

Read the article, it covers that complaint too.

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Date: 10/12/2019 17:14:43
From: furious
ID: 1471961
Subject: re: Plants May Let Out Ultrasonic Squeals When Stressed

PermeateFree said:


furious said:
  • If you read the article you would discover that they ARE making a sound, only beyond our hearing.

If you read what I wrote, I didn’t say that they weren’t making a sound, only they weren’t “actively” making the sound and they certainly aren’t screaming…

Read the article, it covers that complaint too.

I did, it didn’t…

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Date: 10/12/2019 17:16:50
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1471966
Subject: re: Plants May Let Out Ultrasonic Squeals When Stressed

furious said:


PermeateFree said:

furious said:
  • If you read the article you would discover that they ARE making a sound, only beyond our hearing.

If you read what I wrote, I didn’t say that they weren’t making a sound, only they weren’t “actively” making the sound and they certainly aren’t screaming…

Read the article, it covers that complaint too.

I did, it didn’t…

LOL

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Date: 10/12/2019 17:19:59
From: furious
ID: 1471971
Subject: re: Plants May Let Out Ultrasonic Squeals When Stressed

PermeateFree said:


furious said:

PermeateFree said:

Read the article, it covers that complaint too.

I did, it didn’t…

LOL

It really is a waste of time trying to talk to you. Such a closed mind…

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Date: 10/12/2019 17:21:29
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1471973
Subject: re: Plants May Let Out Ultrasonic Squeals When Stressed

furious said:


PermeateFree said:

furious said:

I did, it didn’t…

LOL

It really is a waste of time trying to talk to you. Such a closed mind…

You are a troll, piss off!

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Date: 10/12/2019 17:22:32
From: furious
ID: 1471974
Subject: re: Plants May Let Out Ultrasonic Squeals When Stressed

PermeateFree said:


furious said:

PermeateFree said:

LOL

It really is a waste of time trying to talk to you. Such a closed mind…

You are a troll, piss off!

You always say that when you’re wrong and refuse to admit it…

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Date: 10/12/2019 17:24:40
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1471975
Subject: re: Plants May Let Out Ultrasonic Squeals When Stressed

furious said:


PermeateFree said:

furious said:

It really is a waste of time trying to talk to you. Such a closed mind…

You are a troll, piss off!

You always say that when you’re wrong and refuse to admit it…

No only you.

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Date: 10/12/2019 17:26:21
From: Cymek
ID: 1471977
Subject: re: Plants May Let Out Ultrasonic Squeals When Stressed

PermeateFree said:


furious said:

PermeateFree said:

You are a troll, piss off!

You always say that when you’re wrong and refuse to admit it…

No only you.

You do get angry when you don’t have a day nap

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Date: 10/12/2019 17:29:49
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1471979
Subject: re: Plants May Let Out Ultrasonic Squeals When Stressed

Cymek said:


PermeateFree said:

furious said:

You always say that when you’re wrong and refuse to admit it…

No only you.

You do get angry when you don’t have a day nap

I get very tired of people who choose to ignore common sense and/or factual information.

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Date: 22/12/2019 20:18:01
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1476423
Subject: re: Plants May Let Out Ultrasonic Squeals When Stressed

PermeateFree said:


Bloody vegans!

>>If a drought-parched plant lets out a scream, but it’s at a frequency too high to hear, does it count as a cry of distress? According to a study posted on the preprint server bioRxiv last week, the answer could very well be yes. (And we’re not talking about folklorish mandrakes.)

For the first time, researchers appear to have evidence that, like animals, plants can audibly vocalize their agony when deprived of water or forced to endure bodily harm. The study, which has yet to be published in a peer-reviewed scientific journal, adds another dimension to scientists’ growing understanding of how plants detect and interact with their surroundings—despite lacking many of the sensory organs their faunal counterparts deploy.

In recent years, it’s become abundantly clear that plants are far more sensitive than researchers once gave them credit for. They respond when touched by insects, turn toward sources of light, and some even sniff out other plants. Others are even sensitive to anesthetics, suggesting that they’re capable of experiencing something akin to “pain.”

“Plants are not just robotic, stimulus-response devices,” Frantisek Baluska of the University of Bonn in Germany told Joanna Klein at the New York Times last year. “They’re living organisms which have their own problems.”<<

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/scientists-record-stressed-out-plants-emitting-ultrasonic-squeals-180973716/

> If a drought-parched plant lets out a scream, but it’s at a frequency too high to hear, does it count as a cry of distress? According to a study posted on the preprint server bioRxiv last week, the answer could very well be yes.

The triffids are coming.

I wonder why nobody thought to try this out before. It makes perfect sense. If I pick a fennel frond, not just that plant but also surrounding plants develop a foul taste within a day or two. I had put that down to chemical signalling, but it could be ultrasonic communication.

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