I’ve seen all sorts of weird things in science laboratories, such as:

• A chair that gives accurately pre-programmed injections to a patient strapped into it.
• A blow up sex doll
• A 20 tonne press
• A fMRI
• An atomic force microscope
• A synchrotron
• A 3-D printer that prints in titanium
• Pulsed jet combustion
• A humidicrib
• A 3-D X-ray machine
• Laser doppler imaging
• Salt water spray
• Wind tunnels

What would your ideal laboratory contain, in terms of hardware?

Perhaps an easier question if you break science up into parts:
1. Physics
2. Chemistry
3. Biology
4. Psychology
and throw in for good measure
5. Engineering

mollwollfumble said:

I’ve seen all sorts of weird things in science laboratories, such as:

• A chair that gives accurately pre-programmed injections to a patient strapped into it.
• A blow up sex doll
• A 20 tonne press
• A fMRI
• An atomic force microscope
• A synchrotron
• A 3-D printer that prints in titanium
• Pulsed jet combustion
• A humidicrib
• A 3-D X-ray machine
• Laser doppler imaging
• Salt water spray
• Wind tunnels

What would your ideal laboratory contain, in terms of hardware?

Perhaps an easier question if you break science up into parts:
1. Physics
2. Chemistry
3. Biology
4. Psychology
and throw in for good measure
5. Engineering

I haven’t seen a titanium 3D printer, but I have seen one that does concrete.

And no lab is complete without a 20 tonne press of course.

mollwollfumble said:

I’ve seen all sorts of weird things in science laboratories, such as:

• A chair that gives accurately pre-programmed injections to a patient strapped into it.
• A blow up sex doll
• A 20 tonne press
• A fMRI
• An atomic force microscope
• A synchrotron
• A 3-D printer that prints in titanium
• Pulsed jet combustion
• A humidicrib
• A 3-D X-ray machine
• Laser doppler imaging
• Salt water spray
• Wind tunnels

What would your ideal laboratory contain, in terms of hardware?

Perhaps an easier question if you break science up into parts:
1. Physics
2. Chemistry
3. Biology
4. Psychology
and throw in for good measure
5. Engineering

I suspect #5 needs to be split up as well. My perfect engineering lab is going to look considerably different to The Rev’s engineering lab.

• I suspect #5 needs to be split up as well. My perfect engineering lab is going to look considerably different to The Rev’s engineering lab.

Nah, keep it the same. Has a whole thunderdome vibe to it. Two men enter, one man leaves…

furious said:

• I suspect #5 needs to be split up as well. My perfect engineering lab is going to look considerably different to The Rev’s engineering lab.

Nah, keep it the same. Has a whole thunderdome vibe to it. Two men enter, one man leaves…

He’s got a 20 tonne press, I’ve got a modulation domain analyser. It ain’t fair.

What age group? Different ages require different things.

More specialised labs require different stuff to generalised labs.

sibeen said:

furious said:

• I suspect #5 needs to be split up as well. My perfect engineering lab is going to look considerably different to The Rev’s engineering lab.

Nah, keep it the same. Has a whole thunderdome vibe to it. Two men enter, one man leaves…

He’s got a 20 tonne press, I’ve got a modulation domain analyser beer fridge. It ain’t fair.

ChrispenEvan said:

sibeen said:

furious said:

• I suspect #5 needs to be split up as well. My perfect engineering lab is going to look considerably different to The Rev’s engineering lab.

Nah, keep it the same. Has a whole thunderdome vibe to it. Two men enter, one man leaves…

He’s got a 20 tonne press, I’ve got a modulation domain analyser beer fridge. It ain’t fair.

I bet if i had a 20 tonne press I’d embark on a project too ambitious, for which a 21 tonne press would be the minimum required.

sibeen said:

ChrispenEvan said:

sibeen said:

He’s got a 20 tonne press, I’ve got a modulation domain analyser beer fridge. It ain’t fair.

OK, but we can’t afford the beer as well.

You’d need to be more specific than just “Physics” or “Chemistry”. Labs tend to be specialised.

ChrispenEvan said:

sibeen said:

ChrispenEvan said:

OK, but we can’t afford the beer as well.

It is a science laboratory, surely we could fit in a still…

mollwollfumble said:

I’ve seen all sorts of weird things in science laboratories, such as:

• A chair that gives accurately pre-programmed injections to a patient strapped into it.
• A blow up sex doll
• A 20 tonne press
• A fMRI
• An atomic force microscope
• A synchrotron
• A 3-D printer that prints in titanium
• Pulsed jet combustion
• A humidicrib
• A 3-D X-ray machine
• Laser doppler imaging
• Salt water spray
• Wind tunnels

What would your ideal laboratory contain, in terms of hardware?

Perhaps an easier question if you break science up into parts:
1. Physics
2. Chemistry
3. Biology
4. Psychology
and throw in for good measure
5. Engineering

Psychology – sensory deprivation tank, phrenology skull and an endless supply of children – no questions asked.

Arts said:

mollwollfumble said:

I’ve seen all sorts of weird things in science laboratories, such as:

• A chair that gives accurately pre-programmed injections to a patient strapped into it.
• A blow up sex doll
• A 20 tonne press
• A fMRI
• An atomic force microscope
• A synchrotron
• A 3-D printer that prints in titanium
• Pulsed jet combustion
• A humidicrib
• A 3-D X-ray machine
• Laser doppler imaging
• Salt water spray
• Wind tunnels

What would your ideal laboratory contain, in terms of hardware?

Perhaps an easier question if you break science up into parts:
1. Physics
2. Chemistry
3. Biology
4. Psychology
and throw in for good measure
5. Engineering

Psychology – sensory deprivation tank, phrenology skull and an endless supply of children – no questions asked.

Electric shock equipment controlled by participants as well ?

Cymek said:

Arts said:

mollwollfumble said:

I’ve seen all sorts of weird things in science laboratories, such as:

• A chair that gives accurately pre-programmed injections to a patient strapped into it.
• A blow up sex doll
• A 20 tonne press
• A fMRI
• An atomic force microscope
• A synchrotron
• A 3-D printer that prints in titanium
• Pulsed jet combustion
• A humidicrib
• A 3-D X-ray machine
• Laser doppler imaging
• Salt water spray
• Wind tunnels

What would your ideal laboratory contain, in terms of hardware?

Perhaps an easier question if you break science up into parts:
1. Physics
2. Chemistry
3. Biology
4. Psychology
and throw in for good measure
5. Engineering

Psychology – sensory deprivation tank, phrenology skull and an endless supply of children – no questions asked.

Electric shock equipment controlled by participants as well ?

of course, everyone one of these labs will need a scientist whose sole purpose is to take over the world

Arts said:

of course, everyone one of these labs will need a scientist whose sole purpose is to take over the world

All with a press button evil laugh machine

Arts said:

of course, everyone one of these labs will need a scientist whose sole purpose is to take over the world

Narf!

my ideal science laboratory is nearly spherical, has a radius of nearly 6.4e+6 m, but is currently being run by a bunch of dickheads in political power

SCIENCE said:

my ideal science laboratory is nearly spherical, has a radius of nearly 6.4e+6 m, but is currently being run by a bunch of dickheads in political power

A great shame on their heads.

i’d go with the specific thing to be studied first, and go from there

like, just say it was human nature studies, someone might ague school would a good place to study that, all those young natures brought into near proximity, the raw materials, six hours a day to work with each other, five days a week, for goodly part of the year, and some childcare for mum and dad while. And all the children want to be there, learning the ways of broader culture, advancing themselves and culture

it’s an ideal laboratory, for the children

Ideal science laboratory

> And no lab is complete without a 20 tonne press of course.
> I’ve got a modulation domain analyser

A what?

> Psychology – sensory deprivation tank, phrenology skull and an endless supply of children – no questions asked.
> Electric shock equipment controlled by participants as well ?

> All with a press button evil laugh machine

> my ideal science laboratory is nearly spherical, has a radius of nearly 6.4e+6 m, but is currently being run by a bunch of dickheads in political power

That is actually an extremely good idea. Observe what is.

> just say it was human nature studies, someone might ague school would a good place to study that, all those young natures brought into near proximity, the raw materials, six hours a day to work with each other, five days a week, for goodly part of the year, and some childcare for mum and dad while. And all the children want to be there, learning the ways of broader culture, advancing themselves and culture it’s an ideal laboratory, for the children

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Some more ideas, I’ll set aside my two grandiose ideas of using a gasometer for an origin of life experiment and building a particle accelerator the size of Australia. As well my idea of making wax models of
planets and moons using realistic volcanic processes and metorite impacts.

SI Standards: standard kg, standard metre, standard second
All the stable elements of the periodic table
Some radioactive isotopes
Weighing scales, high accuracy from 1 milligram to 10 tonne
Atomic clock
Interferometer
Measurement of Earth’s gravity, magnetic variation, electric charge
Seismograph
Weather station
Atmospheric chemistry measurement
Radiation detection and direction from 1 Hz to gamma rays

Sieves
Nanofiltration
Centrifuges up to 1 million g
Set of high quality reagents

Biochemistry gas chromatograph GCxGC MS
FTIR
Spectroscopy, including hyperspectral camera
Molecular biology DNA sequencer
Antibody production
MRI

Environmental chambers
Huge greenhouse
Vacuum chamber
Swimming pool that can be pressurised up to 1,000 bar
Pressures and temperatures for making metamorphic rock
Lava and magma environments
Faraday cage
Acoustic isolation
Radiation-proof room
Zero magnetism room
Perfect vibration isolation
Non-earth atmospheres

Low temperatures, down to nanokelvin
High temperatures, uo tp 15 million Kelvin
High voltage, up to 10 megavolts
Diamond anvil cell to 100 gigapascals or more
High magnetic fields to 1 kilotesla
Atomic force microscope
Scanning electron microscope
Biological microscope
Geological polarising microscope
Aqua regia
Sodium hydroxide
Microscopes in energies from microwave to gamma ray

Particle collider up to 2 Gev or 2.5 Gev/c2 (0.2% of the power of the LHC)
Rail gun
Rocket sled

Sensors for chemicals, pH
Pressure, temperature, wind speed, water speed sensors

Viscometer
Hardness measurement
Sample preparation for biology and geology
Instron
Soil testing

Psychological testing rooms
Animals

Explosives

Nanoparticle fabrication
High temperature superconductor fabrication
Fabrication of unusual plastics
Microfabrication using ion beams
3-D printer
Silicon chip fabrication
Quantum computer fabrication
Normal workshop tools, eg. welder

X-ray diffractometer

Telescopes.
3.5 metre telescope catadioptric
Trinocular telesope-interferometer
Radio and microwave telescope
Narrow band, infrared and ultraviolet telescopes
Field of view from 3 minutes to 10 degrees

Waveform generator

Scale models of just about everything

… and

femtosecond laser
high speed camera, 50,000 frames per second
trail cam

… and

femtosecond laser
high speed camera, 50,000 frames per second
trail cam

15 seconds of microgravity (shot tower)

i’ve got an old defib with the paddles you see in hospital dramas – every now and then i pull it out and put the paddles on my chest to show it outputting my heart rythm on the monitor

if i want to go hardcore i can borrow a defib tester and do a series of shocks on it to demonstrate its power by holding the paddles on test plates and shouting “fire in the hole !” – then i get them to do it.

mollwollfumble said:

Ideal science laboratory

> And no lab is complete without a 20 tonne press of course.
> I’ve got a modulation domain analyser

A what?

> Psychology – sensory deprivation tank, phrenology skull and an endless supply of children – no questions asked.
> Electric shock equipment controlled by participants as well ?

> All with a press button evil laugh machine

> my ideal science laboratory is nearly spherical, has a radius of nearly 6.4e+6 m, but is currently being run by a bunch of dickheads in political power

That is actually an extremely good idea. Observe what is.

> just say it was human nature studies, someone might ague school would a good place to study that, all those young natures brought into near proximity, the raw materials, six hours a day to work with each other, five days a week, for goodly part of the year, and some childcare for mum and dad while. And all the children want to be there, learning the ways of broader culture, advancing themselves and culture it’s an ideal laboratory, for the children

—-

Some more ideas, I’ll set aside my two grandiose ideas of using a gasometer for an origin of life experiment and building a particle accelerator the size of Australia. As well my idea of making wax models of
planets and moons using realistic volcanic processes and metorite impacts.

SI Standards: standard kg, standard metre, standard second
All the stable elements of the periodic table
Some radioactive isotopes
Weighing scales, high accuracy from 1 milligram to 10 tonne
Atomic clock
Interferometer
Measurement of Earth’s gravity, magnetic variation, electric charge
Seismograph
Weather station
Atmospheric chemistry measurement
Radiation detection and direction from 1 Hz to gamma rays

Sieves
Nanofiltration
Centrifuges up to 1 million g
Set of high quality reagents

Biochemistry gas chromatograph GCxGC MS
FTIR
Spectroscopy, including hyperspectral camera
Molecular biology DNA sequencer
Antibody production
MRI

Environmental chambers
Huge greenhouse
Vacuum chamber
Swimming pool that can be pressurised up to 1,000 bar
Pressures and temperatures for making metamorphic rock
Lava and magma environments
Faraday cage
Acoustic isolation
Radiation-proof room
Zero magnetism room
Perfect vibration isolation
Non-earth atmospheres

Low temperatures, down to nanokelvin
High temperatures, uo tp 15 million Kelvin
High voltage, up to 10 megavolts
Diamond anvil cell to 100 gigapascals or more
High magnetic fields to 1 kilotesla
Atomic force microscope
Scanning electron microscope
Biological microscope
Geological polarising microscope
Aqua regia
Sodium hydroxide
Microscopes in energies from microwave to gamma ray

Particle collider up to 2 Gev or 2.5 Gev/c2 (0.2% of the power of the LHC)
Rail gun
Rocket sled

Sensors for chemicals, pH
Pressure, temperature, wind speed, water speed sensors

Viscometer
Hardness measurement
Sample preparation for biology and geology
Instron
Soil testing

Psychological testing rooms
Animals

Explosives

Nanoparticle fabrication
High temperature superconductor fabrication
Fabrication of unusual plastics
Microfabrication using ion beams
3-D printer
Silicon chip fabrication
Quantum computer fabrication
Normal workshop tools, eg. welder

X-ray diffractometer

Telescopes.
3.5 metre telescope catadioptric
Trinocular telesope-interferometer
Radio and microwave telescope
Narrow band, infrared and ultraviolet telescopes
Field of view from 3 minutes to 10 degrees

Waveform generator

Scale models of just about everything

And here I thought the Ampere was one of the basic SI units, oh well, no need to measure that.

sibeen said:

And here I thought the Ampere was one of the basic SI units, oh well, no need to measure that.

Whoops.

wookiemeister said:

i’ve got an old defib with the paddles you see in hospital dramas – every now and then i pull it out and put the paddles on my chest to show it outputting my heart rhythm on the monitor

if i want to go hardcore i can borrow a defib tester and do a series of shocks on it to demonstrate its power by holding the paddles on test plates and shouting “fire in the hole !” – then i get them to do it.

Nice. Can one buy a “standard ampere”?
Or set a standard ampere up accurately using the charge on the electron and standard second?

Add to ideal science laboratory:

• Standard ampere, standard candela, standard temperature
• High amp power supply. Would 5,000 amps be high enough? (The LHC can use 1.5 million amps)
• Refinery
• Drugs manufacture
• Standard workshop tools ( eg. welder) to include accurate multimeter

Better?