Date: 7/02/2020 14:50:32
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1497229
Subject: Human Aggression

How aggressive are we as a species ?

Not just to ourselves but to other species and the environment

Australian police deal with domestic violence every two minutes

So far today police in Australia would have dealt with on average
444 domestic violence matters

then there’s sexual abuse, financial abuse, emotional abuse, Gang violence and Wars etc

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Date: 7/02/2020 15:08:37
From: party_pants
ID: 1497235
Subject: re: Human Aggression

Tau.Neutrino said:

How aggressive are we as a species ?

Far less than any other primate. What sets humans apart is our ability to interact in large groups and maintain complex social structures, plus the ability to comminicate and express in language the reinforcement of communal and social values.

You could never get a fifty or a hundred chimps on a bus, all strangers to each other, to just sit quietly for an hour and mind their own business.

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Date: 7/02/2020 15:20:41
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1497240
Subject: re: Human Aggression

party_pants said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

How aggressive are we as a species ?

Far less than any other primate. What sets humans apart is our ability to interact in large groups and maintain complex social structures, plus the ability to comminicate and express in language the reinforcement of communal and social values.

You could never get a fifty or a hundred chimps on a bus, all strangers to each other, to just sit quietly for an hour and mind their own business.

Yes we have long bloody wars involving millions of people, we also have death camps and the holocaust, plus we refuse to take a look in the mirror. We have destroyed most of this plant and plundered its resources and have done so regardless of who lived there whether they be man or animal. And what do we have in our favour, apparently we can sit in a bus without killing each other. FFS wake up, we are NOT the sweet be harmless being. We are cruel, selfish and incredibly greedy and will kill and destroy any species that gets in our way.

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Date: 7/02/2020 15:22:12
From: Cymek
ID: 1497241
Subject: re: Human Aggression

I suppose when we are aggressive we’ve created tools and excuses to kill millions.
Inequality in its various forms causes much of human aggression and misery and humans just generally being nasty to each other because we can.
Our nurture leaves a lot to be desired at times, I bet most of the most violent people had a poor upbringing
The thing is human show the other side by coming together to help each other in times of need so we could do it all the time if we wanted

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Date: 7/02/2020 15:22:45
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1497242
Subject: re: Human Aggression

we don’t have an extreme gun culture

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Date: 7/02/2020 15:23:40
From: party_pants
ID: 1497243
Subject: re: Human Aggression

PermeateFree said:


party_pants said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

How aggressive are we as a species ?

Far less than any other primate. What sets humans apart is our ability to interact in large groups and maintain complex social structures, plus the ability to comminicate and express in language the reinforcement of communal and social values.

You could never get a fifty or a hundred chimps on a bus, all strangers to each other, to just sit quietly for an hour and mind their own business.

Yes we have long bloody wars involving millions of people, we also have death camps and the holocaust, plus we refuse to take a look in the mirror. We have destroyed most of this plant and plundered its resources and have done so regardless of who lived there whether they be man or animal. And what do we have in our favour, apparently we can sit in a bus without killing each other. FFS wake up, we are NOT the sweet be harmless being. We are cruel, selfish and incredibly greedy and will kill and destroy any species that gets in our way.

You’re telling me to wake up? You need to snap out of seeing everything in binary terms.

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Date: 7/02/2020 15:25:36
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1497245
Subject: re: Human Aggression

SCIENCE said:


we don’t have an extreme gun culture

Other countries do.

Some have very aggressive rifle associations and gun clubs.

Some countries have Trillion dollar military industries

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Date: 7/02/2020 15:29:05
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1497247
Subject: re: Human Aggression

party_pants said:


PermeateFree said:

party_pants said:

Far less than any other primate. What sets humans apart is our ability to interact in large groups and maintain complex social structures, plus the ability to comminicate and express in language the reinforcement of communal and social values.

You could never get a fifty or a hundred chimps on a bus, all strangers to each other, to just sit quietly for an hour and mind their own business.

Yes we have long bloody wars involving millions of people, we also have death camps and the holocaust, plus we refuse to take a look in the mirror. We have destroyed most of this plant and plundered its resources and have done so regardless of who lived there whether they be man or animal. And what do we have in our favour, apparently we can sit in a bus without killing each other. FFS wake up, we are NOT the sweet be harmless being. We are cruel, selfish and incredibly greedy and will kill and destroy any species that gets in our way.

You’re telling me to wake up? You need to snap out of seeing everything in binary terms.

You need to see the world as it is. You obviously forget we are on the verge of the sixth mass extinction and the death of billions. As guess what? It’s all due to us!

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Date: 7/02/2020 15:29:08
From: Cymek
ID: 1497248
Subject: re: Human Aggression

I suppose it could be a universal constant and the tool using civilisations builders are that way because they are aggressive and intelligent
If we find aliens and they aren’t that way and haven’t been that way then its just us that behaves poorly

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Date: 7/02/2020 15:35:55
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1497249
Subject: re: Human Aggression

Cymek said:


I suppose it could be a universal constant and the tool using civilisations builders are that way because they are aggressive and intelligent
If we find aliens and they aren’t that way and haven’t been that way then its just us that behaves poorly

I wonder what the least aggressive species are and how they deal with their environment?

Maybe we could learn something from them?

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Date: 7/02/2020 15:39:08
From: transition
ID: 1497250
Subject: re: Human Aggression

you need nuance the possible types of aggression, rather than negatively broad brush as a category

if you consider forcefulness for example, you’ll see there’s plenty of scope for gradings, or types, extending to a low tolerance of hostile aggression, for example

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Date: 7/02/2020 15:41:17
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1497251
Subject: re: Human Aggression

Aggressive corporations are a part of this problem as well.

Companies that sell cheap products that do not last long and need to be continually replaced.

Rather than making something that lasts longer.

This is very hostile to the environment and needs to be measured

Governments should identify environmentally hostile companies are start punishing them.

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Date: 7/02/2020 15:43:10
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1497252
Subject: re: Human Aggression

Tau.Neutrino said:


Aggressive corporations are a part of this problem as well.

Companies that sell cheap products that do not last long and need to be continually replaced.

Rather than making something that lasts longer.

This is very hostile to the environment and needs to be measured

Governments should identify environmentally hostile companies are start punishing them.

are = and

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Date: 7/02/2020 15:43:43
From: transition
ID: 1497253
Subject: re: Human Aggression

>Companies that sell cheap products that do not last long and need to be continually replaced

what about the tyres on your car?

you happy with them or what

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Date: 7/02/2020 15:53:57
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1497256
Subject: re: Human Aggression

transition said:


>Companies that sell cheap products that do not last long and need to be continually replaced

what about the tyres on your car?

you happy with them or what

Any Cheap Product.

I’m talking about products that last about three months.

Cheap clothing that rubs for example or shoes that fall apart etc.

If there are cheap tyre companiess that make cheap tyres that do not last long, then they too, should be on the list.

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Date: 7/02/2020 15:54:46
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1497257
Subject: re: Human Aggression

Tau.Neutrino said:


transition said:

>Companies that sell cheap products that do not last long and need to be continually replaced

what about the tyres on your car?

you happy with them or what

Any Cheap Product.

I’m talking about products that last about three months.

Cheap clothing that rubs for example or shoes that fall apart etc.

If there are cheap tyre companiess that make cheap tyres that do not last long, then they too, should be on the list.

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Date: 7/02/2020 15:55:21
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1497258
Subject: re: Human Aggression

maybe they think it’s only violence if it’s physical

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Date: 7/02/2020 15:56:17
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1497259
Subject: re: Human Aggression

Maybe we need an environmental friendly label on all products that last longer

and environmentally hostile rating for cheap products that don’t.

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Date: 7/02/2020 15:57:36
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1497260
Subject: re: Human Aggression

SCIENCE said:


maybe they think it’s only violence if it’s physical

There is also emotional violence, financial violence.

Those are hard to see.

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Date: 7/02/2020 15:58:48
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1497262
Subject: re: Human Aggression

Animal violence lots of that goes on as well.

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Date: 7/02/2020 15:59:35
From: party_pants
ID: 1497263
Subject: re: Human Aggression

transition said:


you need nuance the possible types of aggression, rather than negatively broad brush as a category

The nuanced approach is that humans suppress violence within in-groups, and tend to express it towards outsiders, be it other groups of human or other species. The trajectory of human development has been towards larger and larger in-groups within which violence is suppressed. That is not to say it is absent, take domestic violence in your earlier example, it happens but we have police force who will attend if called and attempt to diffuse or suppress it.

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Date: 7/02/2020 16:03:20
From: Cymek
ID: 1497265
Subject: re: Human Aggression

party_pants said:


transition said:

you need nuance the possible types of aggression, rather than negatively broad brush as a category

The nuanced approach is that humans suppress violence within in-groups, and tend to express it towards outsiders, be it other groups of human or other species. The trajectory of human development has been towards larger and larger in-groups within which violence is suppressed. That is not to say it is absent, take domestic violence in your earlier example, it happens but we have police force who will attend if called and attempt to diffuse or suppress it.

DV is also closely linked with poverty, substance abuse and marginalisation

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Date: 7/02/2020 16:06:55
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1497266
Subject: re: Human Aggression

transition said:


you need nuance the possible types of aggression, rather than negatively broad brush as a category

if you consider forcefulness for example, you’ll see there’s plenty of scope for gradings, or types, extending to a low tolerance of hostile aggression, for example

yes there many types of aggression

emotional violence
financial violence
sexual violence
animal violence
physical violence
property destruction
environment destruction
sexism is a form of violence
racism is a form of violence
discrimination is a form of violence
gang violence
terrorism
wars

and others

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Date: 7/02/2020 16:07:03
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1497267
Subject: re: Human Aggression

party_pants said:


transition said:

you need nuance the possible types of aggression, rather than negatively broad brush as a category

The nuanced approach is that humans suppress violence within in-groups, and tend to express it towards outsiders, be it other groups of human or other species. The trajectory of human development has been towards larger and larger in-groups within which violence is suppressed. That is not to say it is absent, take domestic violence in your earlier example, it happens but we have police force who will attend if called and attempt to diffuse or suppress it.

I feel reassured by your comments and feel sure it also applies in black South Africa, South America and numerous other poverty stricken countries and communities.

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Date: 7/02/2020 16:13:00
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1497268
Subject: re: Human Aggression

Cymek said:


party_pants said:

transition said:

you need nuance the possible types of aggression, rather than negatively broad brush as a category

The nuanced approach is that humans suppress violence within in-groups, and tend to express it towards outsiders, be it other groups of human or other species. The trajectory of human development has been towards larger and larger in-groups within which violence is suppressed. That is not to say it is absent, take domestic violence in your earlier example, it happens but we have police force who will attend if called and attempt to diffuse or suppress it.

DV is also closely linked with poverty, substance abuse and marginalisation

Those are good examples.

l will add those ones to the list.

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Date: 7/02/2020 16:17:04
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1497269
Subject: re: Human Aggression

ypes of aggression

emotional violence
financial violence
sexual violence
animal violence
physical violence
property destruction
environment destruction
sexism is a form of violence
racism is a form of violence
discrimination is a form of violence
gang violence
terrorism
wars
poverty
substance abuse
marginalisation
political violence
social violence
bullying
peer violence
child violence malnutrition and neglect

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Date: 7/02/2020 16:23:14
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1497270
Subject: re: Human Aggression

Types of aggression

emotional violence
financial violence
sexual violence
animal violence
physical violence
property destruction
environment destruction
sexism is a form of violence
racism is a form of violence
discrimination is a form of violence
gang violence
terrorism
wars
poverty
substance abuse
marginalisation
political violence
social violence
bullying
peer violence
child violence malnutrition and neglect
Violence against the elderly
Cultural/ Identity.
targeted violence assassinations
mass shootings
self harm, self directed violence
Interpersonal violence
collective violence
Suicide and suicide murder Parent/s killing themselves and their children
Mental/Psychological violence

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Date: 7/02/2020 16:25:05
From: party_pants
ID: 1497271
Subject: re: Human Aggression

Tau.Neutrino said:


Types of aggression

emotional violence
financial violence
sexual violence
animal violence
physical violence
property destruction
environment destruction
sexism is a form of violence
racism is a form of violence
discrimination is a form of violence
gang violence
terrorism
wars
poverty
substance abuse
marginalisation
political violence
social violence
bullying
peer violence
child violence malnutrition and neglect
Violence against the elderly
Cultural/ Identity.
targeted violence assassinations
mass shootings
self harm, self directed violence
Interpersonal violence
collective violence
Suicide and suicide murder Parent/s killing themselves and their children
Mental/Psychological violence

Don’t forget atmospheric violence.

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Date: 7/02/2020 16:29:31
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1497272
Subject: re: Human Aggression

atmospheric violence = environment destruction

or do we need a subset ?

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Date: 7/02/2020 16:31:17
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1497274
Subject: re: Human Aggression

Types of aggression

emotional violence
financial violence
sexual violence
animal violence
physical violence
property destruction
environment destruction
sexism is a form of violence
racism is a form of violence
discrimination is a form of violence
gang violence
terrorism
wars
poverty
substance abuse
marginalisation
political violence
social violence
bullying
peer violence
child violence malnutrition and neglect
Violence against the elderly
Cultural/ Identity.
targeted violence assassinations
mass shootings
self harm, self directed violence
Interpersonal violence
collective violence
Suicide and suicide murder Parent/s killing themselves and their children
Mental/Psychological violence
Corporate violence against people
Corporate violence against the the environment (CHEAP PRODUCTS)

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Date: 7/02/2020 16:33:22
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1497275
Subject: re: Human Aggression

party_pants said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Types of aggression

emotional violence
financial violence
sexual violence
animal violence
physical violence
property destruction
environment destruction
sexism is a form of violence
racism is a form of violence
discrimination is a form of violence
gang violence
terrorism
wars
poverty
substance abuse
marginalisation
political violence
social violence
bullying
peer violence
child violence malnutrition and neglect
Violence against the elderly
Cultural/ Identity.
targeted violence assassinations
mass shootings
self harm, self directed violence
Interpersonal violence
collective violence
Suicide and suicide murder Parent/s killing themselves and their children
Mental/Psychological violence

Don’t forget atmospheric violence.

Ocean destruction, land destruction and atmospheric destruction

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Date: 7/02/2020 16:34:25
From: Cymek
ID: 1497276
Subject: re: Human Aggression

PermeateFree said:


party_pants said:

transition said:

you need nuance the possible types of aggression, rather than negatively broad brush as a category

The nuanced approach is that humans suppress violence within in-groups, and tend to express it towards outsiders, be it other groups of human or other species. The trajectory of human development has been towards larger and larger in-groups within which violence is suppressed. That is not to say it is absent, take domestic violence in your earlier example, it happens but we have police force who will attend if called and attempt to diffuse or suppress it.

I feel reassured by your comments and feel sure it also applies in black South Africa, South America and numerous other poverty stricken countries and communities.

If most violence is related to nurture, inequality, greed, ignorance, fear, etc then much of it can be gotten rid off with change, not easy but it can be done.
If its nature then we may need to tweak our genome to be less aggressive (how I don’t now) and also if so how would this less aggressive species even survive.

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Date: 7/02/2020 16:34:25
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1497277
Subject: re: Human Aggression

Types of aggression

emotional violence
financial violence
sexual violence
animal violence
physical violence
property destruction
environment destruction ( Land, Ocean and atmospheric)
sexism is a form of violence
racism is a form of violence
discrimination is a form of violence
gang violence
terrorism
wars
poverty
substance abuse
marginalisation
political violence
social violence
bullying
peer violence
child violence malnutrition and neglect
Violence against the elderly
Cultural/ Identity.
targeted violence assassinations
mass shootings
self harm, self directed violence
Interpersonal violence
collective violence
Suicide and suicide murder Parent/s killing themselves and their children
Mental/Psychological violence
Corporate violence against people
Corporate violence against the the environment (CHEAP PRODUCTS)

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Date: 7/02/2020 16:35:48
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1497278
Subject: re: Human Aggression

Cymek said:


PermeateFree said:

party_pants said:

The nuanced approach is that humans suppress violence within in-groups, and tend to express it towards outsiders, be it other groups of human or other species. The trajectory of human development has been towards larger and larger in-groups within which violence is suppressed. That is not to say it is absent, take domestic violence in your earlier example, it happens but we have police force who will attend if called and attempt to diffuse or suppress it.

I feel reassured by your comments and feel sure it also applies in black South Africa, South America and numerous other poverty stricken countries and communities.

If most violence is related to nurture, inequality, greed, ignorance, fear, etc then much of it can be gotten rid off with change, not easy but it can be done.
If its nature then we may need to tweak our genome to be less aggressive (how I don’t now) and also if so how would this less aggressive species even survive.

This certainly needs to be researched more.

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Date: 7/02/2020 16:42:33
From: Cymek
ID: 1497280
Subject: re: Human Aggression

We seem to be pessimists on this forum so perhaps have negative slant to our views so I do wonder what percentage of humans are out rightly aggressive and are they a minority.
We also don’t seem to have realised that violence only begets more violence, not just immediately but possibly generations later as those the violence was instigated against pass the justified ? hatred onto their offspring (cultural/racial hatreds stemming from wars for example) and the entire circle repeats.

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Date: 7/02/2020 16:46:22
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1497283
Subject: re: Human Aggression

Cymek said:


PermeateFree said:

party_pants said:

The nuanced approach is that humans suppress violence within in-groups, and tend to express it towards outsiders, be it other groups of human or other species. The trajectory of human development has been towards larger and larger in-groups within which violence is suppressed. That is not to say it is absent, take domestic violence in your earlier example, it happens but we have police force who will attend if called and attempt to diffuse or suppress it.

I feel reassured by your comments and feel sure it also applies in black South Africa, South America and numerous other poverty stricken countries and communities.

If most violence is related to nurture, inequality, greed, ignorance, fear, etc then much of it can be gotten rid off with change, not easy but it can be done.
If its nature then we may need to tweak our genome to be less aggressive (how I don’t now) and also if so how would this less aggressive species even survive.

1 in a 100 people is estimated to be a Sociopaths, ie someone whose only concern is self interest, lacks empathy and does not have a conscience. These are not criminals, but live with us and being highly manipulative and socially acceptable can usually influence people to do as they wish to benefit themselves. There are vast numbers of others with serve mental problems and as many variations of these as there are people. So I would say to sway people to your way of thinking has zero prospects.

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Date: 7/02/2020 16:52:54
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1497286
Subject: re: Human Aggression

Cymek said:


We also don’t seem to have realised that violence only begets more violence, so I do wonder what percentage of humans are out rightly aggressive and are they a minority.
We also don’t seem to have realised that violence only begets more violence, not just immediately but possibly generations later as those the violence was instigated against pass the justified ? hatred onto their offspring (cultural/racial hatreds stemming from wars for example) and the entire circle repeats.

>>>We also don’t seem to have realised that violence only begets more violence,
True

>>>We also don’t seem to have realised that violence only begets more violence,

True revenge and hatred are a strong part of this

Generational – Parents passing on hatred

Cultural – Media and social groups passing around revenge and hatred.

How to reduce it

Education K1 to K12 on emotional awareness and control would help to reduce it

Life eduction on rejection and jealousy would help reduce interpersonal violence.

Social science should be expanded to include everything in the list.

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Date: 7/02/2020 17:07:26
From: party_pants
ID: 1497292
Subject: re: Human Aggression

Tau.Neutrino said:


atmospheric violence = environment destruction

or do we need a subset ?

I meant farting in a confined space.

:p

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Date: 7/02/2020 17:10:09
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1497294
Subject: re: Human Aggression

party_pants said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

atmospheric violence = environment destruction

or do we need a subset ?

I meant farting in a confined space.

:p

Definitely interpersonal aggression.

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Date: 7/02/2020 17:13:09
From: dv
ID: 1497298
Subject: re: Human Aggression

About average for a scavenger, I suppose. Scaverage.

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Date: 7/02/2020 17:35:34
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1497311
Subject: re: Human Aggression

Cymek said:


party_pants said:

transition said:

you need nuance the possible types of aggression, rather than negatively broad brush as a category

The nuanced approach is that humans suppress violence within in-groups, and tend to express it towards outsiders, be it other groups of human or other species. The trajectory of human development has been towards larger and larger in-groups within which violence is suppressed. That is not to say it is absent, take domestic violence in your earlier example, it happens but we have police force who will attend if called and attempt to diffuse or suppress it.

DV is also closely linked with poverty, substance abuse and marginalisation

He’s certainly a rascal…

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Date: 7/02/2020 19:15:40
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1497339
Subject: re: Human Aggression

Looks rather like humanity today.

https://i.imgur.com/9vYJTIv.mp4

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Date: 7/02/2020 19:20:35
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1497342
Subject: re: Human Aggression

PermeateFree said:


Looks rather like humanity today.

https://i.imgur.com/9vYJTIv.mp4

Evolving trash

Wonder if it will ever happen one day

Make a good SF story

Probably already been done

Lots of trash movies

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Date: 7/02/2020 19:22:31
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1497344
Subject: re: Human Aggression

Tau.Neutrino said:


PermeateFree said:

Looks rather like humanity today.

https://i.imgur.com/9vYJTIv.mp4

Evolving trash

Wonder if it will ever happen one day

Make a good SF story

Probably already been done

Lots of trash movies

But as a sculpture or moving kinetic sculpture, it works for me, it has a message.

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Date: 7/02/2020 21:52:49
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1497462
Subject: re: Human Aggression

> How aggressive are we as a species ?

Incredibly low today compared with 40,000 years ago, or even 2,000 years ago, or even 100 years ago.

Really, incredibly low aggressiveness on just about every scale when compared to other species.

That could change.

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Date: 7/02/2020 21:53:41
From: dv
ID: 1497463
Subject: re: Human Aggression

mollwollfumble said:


> How aggressive are we as a species ?

Incredibly low today compared with 40,000 years ago, or even 2,000 years ago, or even 100 years ago.

Really, incredibly low aggressiveness on just about every scale when compared to other species.

Even the sea sponge?

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Date: 7/02/2020 21:59:26
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1497464
Subject: re: Human Aggression

mollwollfumble said:


> How aggressive are we as a species ?

Incredibly low today compared with 40,000 years ago, or even 2,000 years ago, or even 100 years ago.

Really, incredibly low aggressiveness on just about every scale when compared to other species.

That could change.

Don’t worry, we are now only 100 seconds to midnight.

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Date: 7/02/2020 22:03:26
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1497468
Subject: re: Human Aggression

dv said:


mollwollfumble said:

> How aggressive are we as a species ?

Incredibly low today compared with 40,000 years ago, or even 2,000 years ago, or even 100 years ago.

Really, incredibly low aggressiveness on just about every scale when compared to other species.

Even the sea sponge?

Sea sponge – as distant as you can get on the metazoa scale. I don’t know.

Even the starfish, sea urchin, mollusc, crustacean.

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Date: 8/02/2020 07:34:48
From: Ogmog
ID: 1497610
Subject: re: Human Aggression

Tau.Neutrino said:

How aggressive are we as a species ?

Not just to ourselves but to other species and the environment

Australian police deal with domestic violence every two minutes

So far today police in Australia would have dealt with on average
444 domestic violence matters

then there’s sexual abuse, financial abuse, emotional abuse, Gang violence and Wars etc


Yar, we’re a plague upon the planet. /-:

This from a TED Talk :Ideas Worth Sharing
A Series of 18 minute mini lectures on diverse topics: ENJOY

What animals are thinking and feeling, and why it should matter

| Carl Safina | TEDxMidAtlantic
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Date: 8/02/2020 10:45:35
From: transition
ID: 1497634
Subject: re: Human Aggression

Ogmog said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

How aggressive are we as a species ?

Not just to ourselves but to other species and the environment

Australian police deal with domestic violence every two minutes

So far today police in Australia would have dealt with on average
444 domestic violence matters

then there’s sexual abuse, financial abuse, emotional abuse, Gang violence and Wars etc


Yar, we’re a plague upon the planet. /-:

This from a TED Talk :Ideas Worth Sharing
A Series of 18 minute mini lectures on diverse topics: ENJOY

What animals are thinking and feeling, and why it should matter

| Carl Safina | TEDxMidAtlantic

watching that

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Date: 8/02/2020 15:24:37
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1497794
Subject: re: Human Aggression

transition said:


Ogmog said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

How aggressive are we as a species ?

Not just to ourselves but to other species and the environment

Australian police deal with domestic violence every two minutes

So far today police in Australia would have dealt with on average
444 domestic violence matters

then there’s sexual abuse, financial abuse, emotional abuse, Gang violence and Wars etc


Yar, we’re a plague upon the planet. /-:

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| Carl Safina | TEDxMidAtlantic

watching that

Very enlightening. If only we could get the Big Companies and Government Ministers to watch it too.

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Date: 9/02/2020 16:48:13
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1498304
Subject: re: Human Aggression

Aggressive and less aggressive toothed cetaceans.

Very aggressive – sporting scars from literally 100 violent battles

Highly aggressive – almost always heavily scarred from battles between individuals

Aggressive – some scarring from battles between individuals

Relatively unaggressive

Humans fit in the “relatively unaggressive” class. The same as killer whales.

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Date: 9/02/2020 17:00:44
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1498307
Subject: re: Human Aggression

mollwollfumble said:


Aggressive and less aggressive toothed cetaceans.

Very aggressive – sporting scars from literally 100 violent battles

  • Risso’s dolphin

Highly aggressive – almost always heavily scarred from battles between individuals

  • Sperm whale
  • Narwhal
  • Beaked whales (17 of 20 species)
  • Pygmy killer whale
  • Short-finned pilot whale
  • Long-finned pilot whale
  • Bottlenose dolphin
  • Boto
  • Franciscana

Aggressive – some scarring from battles between individuals

  • Dwarf sperm whale
  • Lesser beaked whale
  • Sowerby’s beaked whale
  • Lesser beaked whale
  • Melon-headed whale
  • Tucuxi
  • Atlantic humpback dolphin
  • Rough-toothed dolphin
  • Atlantic white-sided dolphin
  • White-beaked dolphin
  • Vaquita
  • Burmeister’s porpoise

Relatively unaggressive

  • Pygmy sperm whale
  • Beluga
  • Killer whale
  • False killer whale
  • Beaked oceanic dolphins (8 of 13 species)
  • Oceanic dolphins without beaks (10 of 13 species)
  • River dolphins (2 of 4 species)
  • Porpoises (4 of 6 species)

Humans fit in the “relatively unaggressive” class. The same as killer whales.

Talk about rose coloured glasses. What absolute BS!

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Date: 9/02/2020 17:33:55
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1498311
Subject: re: Human Aggression

PermeateFree said:


mollwollfumble said:

Aggressive and less aggressive toothed cetaceans.

Very aggressive – sporting scars from literally 100 violent battles

  • Risso’s dolphin

Highly aggressive – almost always heavily scarred from battles between individuals

  • Sperm whale
  • Narwhal
  • Beaked whales (17 of 20 species)
  • Pygmy killer whale
  • Short-finned pilot whale
  • Long-finned pilot whale
  • Bottlenose dolphin
  • Boto
  • Franciscana

Aggressive – some scarring from battles between individuals

  • Dwarf sperm whale
  • Lesser beaked whale
  • Sowerby’s beaked whale
  • Lesser beaked whale
  • Melon-headed whale
  • Tucuxi
  • Atlantic humpback dolphin
  • Rough-toothed dolphin
  • Atlantic white-sided dolphin
  • White-beaked dolphin
  • Vaquita
  • Burmeister’s porpoise

Relatively unaggressive

  • Pygmy sperm whale
  • Beluga
  • Killer whale
  • False killer whale
  • Beaked oceanic dolphins (8 of 13 species)
  • Oceanic dolphins without beaks (10 of 13 species)
  • River dolphins (2 of 4 species)
  • Porpoises (4 of 6 species)

Humans fit in the “relatively unaggressive” class. The same as killer whales.

Talk about rose coloured glasses. What absolute BS!

I give you an aggressive primate right here.

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Date: 9/02/2020 17:34:56
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1498313
Subject: re: Human Aggression

Witty Rejoinder said:


PermeateFree said:

mollwollfumble said:

Aggressive and less aggressive toothed cetaceans.

Very aggressive – sporting scars from literally 100 violent battles

  • Risso’s dolphin

Highly aggressive – almost always heavily scarred from battles between individuals

  • Sperm whale
  • Narwhal
  • Beaked whales (17 of 20 species)
  • Pygmy killer whale
  • Short-finned pilot whale
  • Long-finned pilot whale
  • Bottlenose dolphin
  • Boto
  • Franciscana

Aggressive – some scarring from battles between individuals

  • Dwarf sperm whale
  • Lesser beaked whale
  • Sowerby’s beaked whale
  • Lesser beaked whale
  • Melon-headed whale
  • Tucuxi
  • Atlantic humpback dolphin
  • Rough-toothed dolphin
  • Atlantic white-sided dolphin
  • White-beaked dolphin
  • Vaquita
  • Burmeister’s porpoise

Relatively unaggressive

  • Pygmy sperm whale
  • Beluga
  • Killer whale
  • False killer whale
  • Beaked oceanic dolphins (8 of 13 species)
  • Oceanic dolphins without beaks (10 of 13 species)
  • River dolphins (2 of 4 species)
  • Porpoises (4 of 6 species)

Humans fit in the “relatively unaggressive” class. The same as killer whales.

Talk about rose coloured glasses. What absolute BS!

I give you an aggressive primate right here.

Angry loner, solitary. Doesn’t mix well with others.

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Date: 9/02/2020 17:35:22
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1498314
Subject: re: Human Aggression

Witty Rejoinder said:


PermeateFree said:

mollwollfumble said:

Aggressive and less aggressive toothed cetaceans.

Very aggressive – sporting scars from literally 100 violent battles

  • Risso’s dolphin

Highly aggressive – almost always heavily scarred from battles between individuals

  • Sperm whale
  • Narwhal
  • Beaked whales (17 of 20 species)
  • Pygmy killer whale
  • Short-finned pilot whale
  • Long-finned pilot whale
  • Bottlenose dolphin
  • Boto
  • Franciscana

Aggressive – some scarring from battles between individuals

  • Dwarf sperm whale
  • Lesser beaked whale
  • Sowerby’s beaked whale
  • Lesser beaked whale
  • Melon-headed whale
  • Tucuxi
  • Atlantic humpback dolphin
  • Rough-toothed dolphin
  • Atlantic white-sided dolphin
  • White-beaked dolphin
  • Vaquita
  • Burmeister’s porpoise

Relatively unaggressive

  • Pygmy sperm whale
  • Beluga
  • Killer whale
  • False killer whale
  • Beaked oceanic dolphins (8 of 13 species)
  • Oceanic dolphins without beaks (10 of 13 species)
  • River dolphins (2 of 4 species)
  • Porpoises (4 of 6 species)

Humans fit in the “relatively unaggressive” class. The same as killer whales.

Talk about rose coloured glasses. What absolute BS!

I give you an aggressive primate right here.

We all are dummy. Just look in a mirror.

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Date: 9/02/2020 17:38:07
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1498315
Subject: re: Human Aggression

Witty Rejoinder said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

PermeateFree said:

Talk about rose coloured glasses. What absolute BS!

I give you an aggressive primate right here.

Angry loner, solitary. Doesn’t mix well with others.

You are such a shallow person, unable to see further than your nose. Just examine what has and is happening in the world, which might be radically different to what is happening in your backyard.

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