Date: 7/02/2020 22:53:43
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1497508
Subject: Iconic short film upscaled to 4K/60p, with impressive results

Iconic short film upscaled to 4K/60p, with impressive results

YouTuber Denis Shiryaev has upscaled a mid-1890s classic silent short to 4K/60p modern goodness using “several neural networks.” And the result is nothing short of breathtaking.

Youtube link

https://youtu.be/MT-70ni4Ddo

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Date: 7/02/2020 22:57:38
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1497510
Subject: re: Iconic short film upscaled to 4K/60p, with impressive results

It’s an impressive regeneration of the film.

I’ve seen it before (all grainy and crappy), and I read years back that when it was shown, some members of the audience panicked, thinking that the locomotive was going to emerge from the screen and crash into the theatre.

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Date: 7/02/2020 23:00:13
From: dv
ID: 1497512
Subject: re: Iconic short film upscaled to 4K/60p, with impressive results

Nice

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Date: 7/02/2020 23:04:43
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1497516
Subject: re: Iconic short film upscaled to 4K/60p, with impressive results

Judging by the attire I’m surprised that so many Muslim women lived in turn of the century France.

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Date: 7/02/2020 23:12:15
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1497517
Subject: re: Iconic short film upscaled to 4K/60p, with impressive results

can hardly tell the difference

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Date: 7/02/2020 23:14:20
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1497518
Subject: re: Iconic short film upscaled to 4K/60p, with impressive results

Witty Rejoinder said:


Judging by the attire I’m surprised that so many Muslim women lived in turn of the century France.

It was certainly more colourful back then than all black attire now.

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Date: 7/02/2020 23:16:36
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1497519
Subject: re: Iconic short film upscaled to 4K/60p, with impressive results

Tau.Neutrino said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

Judging by the attire I’m surprised that so many Muslim women lived in turn of the century France.

It was certainly more colourful back then than all black attire now.

Maybe Muslim women today can bring the colour back into what they wear, rather than looking like they are going to funerals all the time.

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Date: 7/02/2020 23:19:38
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1497520
Subject: re: Iconic short film upscaled to 4K/60p, with impressive results

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Judging by the attire I’m surprised that so many Muslim women lived in turn of the century France.

It was certainly more colourful back then than all black attire now.

Maybe Muslim women today can bring the colour back into what they wear, rather than looking like they are going to funerals all the time.

yeah same as old greek and italian women.

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Date: 7/02/2020 23:20:10
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1497521
Subject: re: Iconic short film upscaled to 4K/60p, with impressive results

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Judging by the attire I’m surprised that so many Muslim women lived in turn of the century France.

It was certainly more colourful back then than all black attire now.

Maybe Muslim women today can bring the colour back into what they wear, rather than looking like they are going to funerals all the time.

It’s pretty much only in Saudi Arabia that Muslim women are required to wear the black abaya designed to hide their figure.

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Date: 7/02/2020 23:20:43
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1497522
Subject: re: Iconic short film upscaled to 4K/60p, with impressive results

ChrispenEvan said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

It was certainly more colourful back then than all black attire now.

Maybe Muslim women today can bring the colour back into what they wear, rather than looking like they are going to funerals all the time.

yeah same as old greek and italian women.

Only for ten years!!!

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Date: 7/02/2020 23:23:10
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1497525
Subject: re: Iconic short film upscaled to 4K/60p, with impressive results

The original is a remarkable relic of its time, and this update makes it a bit clearer.

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Date: 7/02/2020 23:23:56
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1497527
Subject: re: Iconic short film upscaled to 4K/60p, with impressive results

Bubblecar said:


The original is a remarkable relic of its time…

sounds like me.

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Date: 8/02/2020 00:50:51
From: dv
ID: 1497574
Subject: re: Iconic short film upscaled to 4K/60p, with impressive results

Witty Rejoinder said:


ChrispenEvan said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Maybe Muslim women today can bring the colour back into what they wear, rather than looking like they are going to funerals all the time.

yeah same as old greek and italian women.

Only for ten years!!!

Muslim women mostly wear colourful Western clothes.

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Date: 8/02/2020 02:48:03
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1497601
Subject: re: Iconic short film upscaled to 4K/60p, with impressive results

are they really “western”

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Date: 8/02/2020 04:56:41
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1497606
Subject: re: Iconic short film upscaled to 4K/60p, with impressive results

captain_spalding said:

> https://youtu.be/MT-70ni4Ddo

It’s an impressive regeneration of the film.

I’ve seen it before (all grainy and crappy), and I read years back that when it was shown, some members of the audience panicked, thinking that the locomotive was going to emerge from the screen and crash into the theatre.

Is that the best they can do? Still have fade-outs, size changes and edge effects.

Here’s a copy of the original, posted to ewetube in 2006. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dgLEDdFddk

They’ve done wonders with white noise reduction and single frame gross defect removal. And got rid of most of the camera shake.

That’s weird, the ladies costumes are practically invisible in the original to the extent that you almost wonder whether there are any. But in the remastered version they take centre stage.

This is a frame from the remastered version.

And this is a frame same time in on the earlier digital version. It’s not the same movie.

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Date: 8/02/2020 09:34:16
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1497617
Subject: re: Iconic short film upscaled to 4K/60p, with impressive results

mollwollfumble said:


captain_spalding said:

> https://youtu.be/MT-70ni4Ddo

It’s an impressive regeneration of the film.

I’ve seen it before (all grainy and crappy), and I read years back that when it was shown, some members of the audience panicked, thinking that the locomotive was going to emerge from the screen and crash into the theatre.

Is that the best they can do? Still have fade-outs, size changes and edge effects.

Here’s a copy of the original, posted to ewetube in 2006. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dgLEDdFddk

They’ve done wonders with white noise reduction and single frame gross defect removal. And got rid of most of the camera shake.

That’s weird, the ladies costumes are practically invisible in the original to the extent that you almost wonder whether there are any. But in the remastered version they take centre stage.

This is a frame from the remastered version.

And this is a frame same time in on the earlier digital version. It’s not the same movie.


who needs an intentional deep fake when intrinsic baias* can do it for you ¿

*: you saw it here first

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Date: 8/02/2020 09:41:06
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1497618
Subject: re: Iconic short film upscaled to 4K/60p, with impressive results

SCIENCE said:


mollwollfumble said:

captain_spalding said:

> https://youtu.be/MT-70ni4Ddo

It’s an impressive regeneration of the film.

I’ve seen it before (all grainy and crappy), and I read years back that when it was shown, some members of the audience panicked, thinking that the locomotive was going to emerge from the screen and crash into the theatre.

Is that the best they can do? Still have fade-outs, size changes and edge effects.

Here’s a copy of the original, posted to ewetube in 2006. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dgLEDdFddk

They’ve done wonders with white noise reduction and single frame gross defect removal. And got rid of most of the camera shake.

That’s weird, the ladies costumes are practically invisible in the original to the extent that you almost wonder whether there are any. But in the remastered version they take centre stage.

This is a frame from the remastered version.

And this is a frame same time in on the earlier digital version. It’s not the same movie.


who needs an intentional deep fake when intrinsic baias* can do it for you ¿

*: you saw it here first

Looked up intrinsic balas.

Apparently that is not a recognised phrase yet,

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Date: 8/02/2020 09:43:09
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1497620
Subject: re: Iconic short film upscaled to 4K/60p, with impressive results

SCIENCE said:


mollwollfumble said:

captain_spalding said:

> https://youtu.be/MT-70ni4Ddo

It’s an impressive regeneration of the film.

I’ve seen it before (all grainy and crappy), and I read years back that when it was shown, some members of the audience panicked, thinking that the locomotive was going to emerge from the screen and crash into the theatre.

Is that the best they can do? Still have fade-outs, size changes and edge effects.

Here’s a copy of the original, posted to ewetube in 2006. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dgLEDdFddk

They’ve done wonders with white noise reduction and single frame gross defect removal. And got rid of most of the camera shake.

That’s weird, the ladies costumes are practically invisible in the original to the extent that you almost wonder whether there are any. But in the remastered version they take centre stage.

This is a frame from the remastered version.

And this is a frame same time in on the earlier digital version. It’s not the same movie.


who needs an intentional deep fake when intrinsic baias* can do it for you ¿

*: you saw it here first

I suggest that the ‘original’ that you refer to is probably one of several ‘takes’ done of various trains arriving at that station on the day.

Having transported their undoubtedly awkward and heavy equipment to the station and got it set up, after who knows what negotiations the railway authorities or staff about doing it, it would seem foolish to risk just taking one shot of the event then packing up and going home.

If you’d got something wrong, or screwed up the development of the film, there goes a whole day’s work. Common sense would compel you to make several takes of the event, even if only to let you choose which one you like best.

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Date: 8/02/2020 09:46:04
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1497621
Subject: re: Iconic short film upscaled to 4K/60p, with impressive results

The Rev Dodgson said:

Looked up intrinsic balas.

Apparently that is not a recognised phrase yet,

‘Baias’ is Portuguese.

It’s the plural of ‘baia’, which equates to ‘bay’ in English.

The concept of ‘intrinsic bays’ is mystifying, especially the need for Portuguese.

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Date: 8/02/2020 09:47:29
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1497623
Subject: re: Iconic short film upscaled to 4K/60p, with impressive results

captain_spalding said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Looked up intrinsic balas.

Apparently that is not a recognised phrase yet,

‘Baias’ is Portuguese.

It’s the plural of ‘baia’, which equates to ‘bay’ in English.

The concept of ‘intrinsic bays’ is mystifying, especially the need for Portuguese.

Thanks c_s. I shall ponder this over the course of the morning.

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Date: 8/02/2020 09:53:23
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 1497625
Subject: re: Iconic short film upscaled to 4K/60p, with impressive results

I think MZL was making a play on the word ‘bias’.

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Date: 8/02/2020 09:55:19
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1497629
Subject: re: Iconic short film upscaled to 4K/60p, with impressive results

Witty Rejoinder said:


I think MZL was making a play on the word ‘bias’.

I had suspected such. Otherwise, i wouldn’t have been so keen to jump in with my own play on it, for fear of causing embarrassment.

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Date: 8/02/2020 10:38:56
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1497632
Subject: re: Iconic short film upscaled to 4K/60p, with impressive results

The Rev Dodgson said:


captain_spalding said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Looked up intrinsic balas.

Apparently that is not a recognised phrase yet,

‘Baias’ is Portuguese.

It’s the plural of ‘baia’, which equates to ‘bay’ in English.

The concept of ‘intrinsic bays’ is mystifying, especially the need for Portuguese.

Thanks c_s. I shall ponder this over the course of the morning.

I think bay in this context means bay as in baying at the moon.
If as I suspect this is true it puts intrinsic baying in a different light.
I think we’re really starting to get somewhere now.

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Date: 8/02/2020 10:48:58
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1497635
Subject: re: Iconic short film upscaled to 4K/60p, with impressive results

captain_spalding said:


SCIENCE said:

who needs an intentional deep fake when intrinsic baias* can do it for you ¿

*: you saw it here first

I suggest that the ‘original’ that you refer to is probably one of several ‘takes’ done of various trains arriving at that station on the day.

Having transported their undoubtedly awkward and heavy equipment to the station and got it set up, after who knows what negotiations the railway authorities or staff about doing it, it would seem foolish to risk just taking one shot of the event then packing up and going home.

If you’d got something wrong, or screwed up the development of the film, there goes a whole day’s work. Common sense would compel you to make several takes of the event, even if only to let you choose which one you like best.


The spelling of baias reminds me of baiji

Yeah. But is the original of the upscaled one the same as that shown at the movies? Or is it the original posted in 2006 that has that claim? Or both?

To keep matters clearer, call the first ‘original0’ and the second ‘original1’. Let’s look at old postings on the web.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dgLEDdFddk = original1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjtXXypztyw = original0. Aha. Posted to web in 2011.

Before (original0)


After

> They’ve done wonders with white noise reduction and single frame gross defect removal. And got rid of most of the camera shake.

And they’ve de-blurred it and de-saturated it to recover details lost by saturation and removed black from underexposure. I can’t help wondering if they had access to the original film, then they could play it back at two (or more) different light intensities to remove underexposure and saturation.

> Still have fade-outs, size changes and edge effects.

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