if some errors of social thinking required three lifetimes to comprehend, compensate for and remedy, would there be a tendency to cram three lifetimes of wrongness into a single lifetime

sounds daft perhaps, a serious proposition though

a ~240 year life seems long to me, i’m contemplating for a moment still being sprightly at age 120 years, one of the joys of imagination, abstraction, detachment

of course culture outlives individuals, there’s possibly an argument large part of its purpose is to compensate for the constraints of a lifetime

I could think an early death, a short life, unknowns related are a threat, the big uncertainty, the biggest uncertainty, but what if its more errors that take more than a lifetime to comprehend, resulting in a tendency to cram three lifetimes of wrong into a single life

i’m toying with the idea that some things that are right for an 80 year lifespan may not be right for one exceeding 240 years. Pick a number, whatever

call it lifespan appropriateness, sort of gets you there

if you were going to live 240+ years, thought there a good chance, aged at one-third the rate or better (more slowly), what of your thinking would be substantially different

It’s an interesting question.

I suspect that if I were told I could live for centuries, my first response would be a re-explosion of childhood enthusiasm and energy.

No more preoccupation with looming death and the transience of everything. Life would be fresh and exciting again, for a long time.

Bubblecar said:

It’s an interesting question.

I suspect that if I were told I could live for centuries, my first response would be a re-explosion of childhood enthusiasm and energy.

No more preoccupation with looming death and the transience of everything. Life would be fresh and exciting again, for a long time.

Why is the van taking so long, they might get away.

the view that life is short, and of unknown duration may influence cultural investment, even displace imagining life to be longer, and lost are the benefits of being able to imagine it to be longer, as if it were

imagining it to be longer is not the same is wishing it were or wanting it to be longer

consider there are a class of thought and possible views that exceed (are beyond) the typical human life span, disinclined by a substantially universal aversion across the species, abstracted it’d be something like lifespan inappropriateness for the typical individual, contrary to normal, challenging lifespan correctness, if you will

that lifespan appropriateness is a powerful aspect of normative forces

i’m contemplating ideological devices that might tend humans to cram, the evil of being deprived the imaginative act of considering the life that extends way beyond normal, outside immediate temporal influences and controls maybe

transition said:

if some errors of social thinking required three lifetimes to comprehend, compensate for and remedy, would there be a tendency to cram three lifetimes of wrongness into a single lifetime

sounds daft perhaps, a serious proposition though

a ~240 year life seems long to me, i’m contemplating for a moment still being sprightly at age 120 years, one of the joys of imagination, abstraction, detachment

of course culture outlives individuals, there’s possibly an argument large part of its purpose is to compensate for the constraints of a lifetime

I could think an early death, a short life, unknowns related are a threat, the big uncertainty, the biggest uncertainty, but what if its more errors that take more than a lifetime to comprehend, resulting in a tendency to cram three lifetimes of wrong into a single life

i’m toying with the idea that some things that are right for an 80 year lifespan may not be right for one exceeding 240 years. Pick a number, whatever

call it lifespan appropriateness, sort of gets you there

if you were going to live 240+ years, thought there a good chance, aged at one-third the rate or better (more slowly), what of your thinking would be substantially different

I’ve no idea why some people think that life is too short. I achieved all my goals in life by 2012, when I was 54 years old.

And from an altruistic point of view, not getting rid of older people makes the world population explosion much worse.

> resulting in a tendency to cram three lifetimes of wrong into a single life.

Not sure what you mean by that. Do you mean three lifetimes of crime? For the most general meaning of the word “crime”.

Or do you have something else in mind?

Deviousness and corruption increase with age faster than wisdom. Enthusiasm decreases with age. So if there was a way to extend lifespan significantly with rejuvenated enthusiasm, then the results would be very bad.

resulting in a tendency to cram three lifetimes of wrong into a single life.

Not sure what you mean by that. Do you mean three lifetimes of crime? For the most general meaning of the word “crime”.
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cram makes perfect sense.

mollwollfumble said:

transition said:

if some errors of social thinking required three lifetimes to comprehend, compensate for and remedy, would there be a tendency to cram three lifetimes of wrongness into a single lifetime

sounds daft perhaps, a serious proposition though

a ~240 year life seems long to me, i’m contemplating for a moment still being sprightly at age 120 years, one of the joys of imagination, abstraction, detachment

of course culture outlives individuals, there’s possibly an argument large part of its purpose is to compensate for the constraints of a lifetime

I could think an early death, a short life, unknowns related are a threat, the big uncertainty, the biggest uncertainty, but what if its more errors that take more than a lifetime to comprehend, resulting in a tendency to cram three lifetimes of wrong into a single life

i’m toying with the idea that some things that are right for an 80 year lifespan may not be right for one exceeding 240 years. Pick a number, whatever

call it lifespan appropriateness, sort of gets you there

if you were going to live 240+ years, thought there a good chance, aged at one-third the rate or better (more slowly), what of your thinking would be substantially different

I’ve no idea why some people think that life is too short. I achieved all my goals in life by 2012, when I was 54 years old.

And from an altruistic point of view, not getting rid of older people makes the world population explosion much worse.

> resulting in a tendency to cram three lifetimes of wrong into a single life.

Not sure what you mean by that. Do you mean three lifetimes of crime? For the most general meaning of the word “crime”.

Or do you have something else in mind?

Deviousness and corruption increase with age faster than wisdom. Enthusiasm decreases with age. So if there was a way to extend lifespan significantly with rejuvenated enthusiasm, then the results would be very bad.

> not getting rid of older people makes the world population explosion much worse.
Old people generally have stopped breeding. It would be better to get rid of young females.

mollwollfumble said:

I’ve no idea why some people think that life is too short. I achieved all my goals in life by 2012, when I was 54 years old.

to me this is both achievement and terrifying.. for me: goals aren’t set and stay.. they constantly change and new ones arise as I learn new things. Considering 54 isn’t terribly far away for me, I am terrified by the thought of having accomplish all I want by that age.. I would like a few lifetimes to learn all the stuff I want to .. but the thought of limited time drives me to actually learn it, finality is the motivator… so I’m going to attempt to fit as much in as I can, while I can and still enjoy it.

Arts said:

mollwollfumble said:

I’ve no idea why some people think that life is too short. I achieved all my goals in life by 2012, when I was 54 years old.

to me this is both achievement and terrifying.. for me: goals aren’t set and stay.. they constantly change and new ones arise as I learn new things. Considering 54 isn’t terribly far away for me, I am terrified by the thought of having accomplish all I want by that age.. I would like a few lifetimes to learn all the stuff I want to .. but the thought of limited time drives me to actually learn it, finality is the motivator… so I’m going to attempt to fit as much in as I can, while I can and still enjoy it.

It was a friend’s birthday yesterday, and also the anniversary of her mother’s death. I sent her a message saying I was thinking of her mum. She replied, saying it feels weird because she’s now the age her mum was when she died (of cancer).

It’s easy for me to imagine staying content for over 1000 years, if my brain stays in good shape.

I could live til 1000 and still not understand the Matrix movies.

Divine Angel said:

I could live til 1000 and still not understand the Matrix movies.

well, somethings aren’t for our mortal minds.

Divine Angel said:

Arts said:

mollwollfumble said:

I’ve no idea why some people think that life is too short. I achieved all my goals in life by 2012, when I was 54 years old.

to me this is both achievement and terrifying.. for me: goals aren’t set and stay.. they constantly change and new ones arise as I learn new things. Considering 54 isn’t terribly far away for me, I am terrified by the thought of having accomplish all I want by that age.. I would like a few lifetimes to learn all the stuff I want to .. but the thought of limited time drives me to actually learn it, finality is the motivator… so I’m going to attempt to fit as much in as I can, while I can and still enjoy it.

It was a friend’s birthday yesterday, and also the anniversary of her mother’s death. I sent her a message saying I was thinking of her mum. She replied, saying it feels weird because she’s now the age her mum was when she died (of cancer).

whenI hit the age that my dad reached I got a little paranoid that I would die too… it was not a great time for my brain.

dv said:

It’s easy for me to imagine staying content for over 1000 years, if my brain stays in good shape.

The first time my brain filled up completely full was when I was 28 years old.
For Missy it was when she was 17 years old.

Ever since then I’ve had to forget stuff before I could learn any more.

The brain is not of infinite capacity. “Man’s brain is like an attic. The fool will stuff all sorts of … items in his brain attic so that the useful information becomes lost in the clutter”, Sherlock Holmes.

This has been less of a problem in the past ten years because now I’m forgetting much more easily.

In terms of aging, I occasionally wonder which will give out first, my body or my brain.

How does one know one’s brain is “completely full”?

Divine Angel said:

How does one know one’s brain is “completely full”?

I’ve forgotten the answer to that.

Divine Angel said:

How does one know one’s brain is “completely full”?

It always is

dv said:

Divine Angel said:

How does one know one’s brain is “completely full”?

It always is

In the same way that a gas container is always full?

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

Divine Angel said:

How does one know one’s brain is “completely full”?

It always is

In the same way that a gas container is always full?

Sleep defrags the brain.

Theoretically the human brain capacity for storage is limitless, but the brain is not great at compartmentalising each bit of information. There are crossovers in a sort of effort to associate parts of information. In recall this can become intertwined and the more incorrect recall the deeper the long term memory persists in an incorrect state.

The brains other fault is adding in information to make sense of things. What the eyes see and what the brain interprets has a disconnect in that effort to be ‘sensible’.

can it become ‘full’? probably not in theory.

Tamb said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

It always is

In the same way that a gas container is always full?

Sleep defrags the brain.

You only need to defrag your brain if it runs on windows. And if it runs on windows you have bigger problems…

furious said:

Tamb said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

In the same way that a gas container is always full?

Sleep defrags the brain.

You only need to defrag your brain if it runs on windows. And if it runs on windows you have bigger problems…

constant updates and superfluous emails?

furious said:

Tamb said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

In the same way that a gas container is always full?

Sleep defrags the brain.

You only need to defrag your brain if it runs on windows. And if it runs on windows you have bigger problems…

Well I’m not going to run it on Apple & only be able to speak Swahili.

Tamb said:

furious said:

Tamb said:

Sleep defrags the brain.

You only need to defrag your brain if it runs on windows. And if it runs on windows you have bigger problems…

Well I’m not going to run it on Apple & only be able to speak Swahili.

What’s wrong with Swahili, Muzungu?

Michael V said:

Tamb said:

furious said:

You only need to defrag your brain if it runs on windows. And if it runs on windows you have bigger problems…

Well I’m not going to run it on Apple & only be able to speak Swahili.

What’s wrong with Swahili, Muzungu?

Presses “Like” button. Danke Baas.

I don’t feel the need to remember every damned thing forever. If my brain is as good in 1000 years as it is now, then I’ll be remembering enough to enjoy life.

dv said:

I don’t feel the need to remember every damned thing forever. If my brain is as good in 1000 years as it is now, then I’ll be remembering enough to enjoy life.

And then look back on those 1000 years for your finest hour.

Tamb said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

It always is

In the same way that a gas container is always full?

Sleep defrags the brain.

Good way of putting it.

Tamb said:

Michael V said:

Tamb said:

Well I’m not going to run it on Apple & only be able to speak Swahili.

What’s wrong with Swahili, Muzungu?

Presses “Like” button. Danke Baas.

:)

I thought you might get it.