“This pathogen has all the signs of being ‘the big one,’” said Lewis, who is among those at the Biocomplexity Institute who works in a research partnership with AccuWeather.
“When current estimates for COVID-19 are compared to the 1918 pandemic, they are eerily similar.
The outcomes will likely be different given modern medicine; however, the impact on society and its functioning is likely to be significant.”
Ogmog said:
“This pathogen has all the signs of being ‘the big one,’” said Lewis, who is among those at the Biocomplexity Institute who works in a research partnership with AccuWeather. “When current estimates for COVID-19 are compared to the 1918 pandemic, they are eerily similar. The outcomes will likely be different given modern medicine; however, the impact on society and its functioning is likely to be significant.”
I wonder how far they’d go to contain it if it would result in millions of deaths
Widespread panic everywhere around me here. I don’t like whoever spread that shit.
It’s just s nasty version of the flu, like the 1968 flu. No reason for all the supermarkets in Perth to run out of toilet paper today because of panic buying.
I’m a little surprised there hasn’t been more discussion on this.
For example, I am a type 2 diabetic and so do not want to get a severe respiratory disease. I have no symptoms but since I can work remotely, i have done that… both to protect myself and do protect others (if I was infected during recent domestic travel).
I can see this is going to get a lot worse before it gets better. For the majority of people it will be a minor inconvenience. For others, it is a significant health risk.
If for nothing else, the COVID-19 has shown a lot of us one thing: the majority of our consumer goods come from the PRC. It might be a good ‘wake up’ call to the disadvantages of a global economy.
Obviousman said:
I’m a little surprised there hasn’t been more discussion on this.For example, I am a type 2 diabetic and so do not want to get a severe respiratory disease. I have no symptoms but since I can work remotely, i have done that… both to protect myself and do protect others (if I was infected during recent domestic travel).
I can see this is going to get a lot worse before it gets better. For the majority of people it will be a minor inconvenience. For others, it is a significant health risk.
If for nothing else, the COVID-19 has shown a lot of us one thing: the majority of our consumer goods come from the PRC. It might be a good ‘wake up’ call to the disadvantages of a global economy.
I am a 62 year old nutter who smokes. I’m close to lock down.
sarahs mum said:
Obviousman said:
I’m a little surprised there hasn’t been more discussion on this.For example, I am a type 2 diabetic and so do not want to get a severe respiratory disease. I have no symptoms but since I can work remotely, i have done that… both to protect myself and do protect others (if I was infected during recent domestic travel).
I can see this is going to get a lot worse before it gets better. For the majority of people it will be a minor inconvenience. For others, it is a significant health risk.
If for nothing else, the COVID-19 has shown a lot of us one thing: the majority of our consumer goods come from the PRC. It might be a good ‘wake up’ call to the disadvantages of a global economy.
I am a 62 year old nutter who smokes. I’m close to lock down.
the paranoids are after me on a good day.
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
Obviousman said:
I’m a little surprised there hasn’t been more discussion on this.For example, I am a type 2 diabetic and so do not want to get a severe respiratory disease. I have no symptoms but since I can work remotely, i have done that… both to protect myself and do protect others (if I was infected during recent domestic travel).
I can see this is going to get a lot worse before it gets better. For the majority of people it will be a minor inconvenience. For others, it is a significant health risk.
If for nothing else, the COVID-19 has shown a lot of us one thing: the majority of our consumer goods come from the PRC. It might be a good ‘wake up’ call to the disadvantages of a global economy.
I am a 62 year old nutter who smokes. I’m close to lock down.
the paranoids are after me on a good day.
I think that if you can practically isolate yourself, then what you are doing is reasonable.
I have to look more closely at food; toilet paper is NOT a concern (and have I mentioned how much I hate the “average” people?).
Most if the discussion on this is in the other thread.
Arts said:
Most if the discussion on this is in the other thread.
No its not.
sibeen said:
Arts said:
Most if the discussion on this is in the other thread.
No its not.
I stand corrected.
Arts said:
sibeen said:
Arts said:
Most if the discussion on this is in the other thread.
No its not.
I stand corrected.
Well… Sit, really. You sit corrected.
Twice.
:-)
sibeen said:
Arts said:
Most if the discussion on this is in the other thread.
No its not.
I take it you’re saying that despite its length, the other thread has very little discussion about how COVID-19 affects those with pre-existing conditions?
Interesting interview with an infectious disease doctor who doesn’t tell a nice story.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZFhjMQrVts
sibeen said:
Interesting interview with an infectious disease doctor who doesn’t tell a nice story.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZFhjMQrVts
Interesting, thanks.
“Ali said his clinic was also offering the worried wealthy an intravenous infusion of vitamins and minerals to boost their immune systems. “We know that 90% of adults have a deficiency in vitamins – what better to improve that than an IV immune boost? “
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/11/disease-dodging-worried-wealthy-jet-off-to-disaster-bunkers
Is that vitamin claim in any way true?
sibeen said:
“Ali said his clinic was also offering the worried wealthy an intravenous infusion of vitamins and minerals to boost their immune systems. “We know that 90% of adults have a deficiency in vitamins – what better to improve that than an IV immune boost? “https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/11/disease-dodging-worried-wealthy-jet-off-to-disaster-bunkers
Is that vitamin claim in any way true?
Reads like nonsense to me.
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
“Ali said his clinic was also offering the worried wealthy an intravenous infusion of vitamins and minerals to boost their immune systems. “We know that 90% of adults have a deficiency in vitamins – what better to improve that than an IV immune boost? “https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/11/disease-dodging-worried-wealthy-jet-off-to-disaster-bunkers
Is that vitamin claim in any way true?
Reads like nonsense to me.
I doubt 90% of adults are vitamin deficient. Even junk food is fortified with essential vitamins and minerals. Talking about regular, average people, of course. Not people with medical issues.
sibeen said:
“Ali said his clinic was also offering the worried wealthy an intravenous infusion of vitamins and minerals to boost their immune systems. “We know that 90% of adults have a deficiency in vitamins – what better to improve that than an IV immune boost? “https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/11/disease-dodging-worried-wealthy-jet-off-to-disaster-bunkers
Is that vitamin claim in any way true?
IDK about the USA but it doesn’t appear to be the case in Australia.
sibeen said:
“Ali said his clinic was also offering the worried wealthy an intravenous infusion of vitamins and minerals to boost their immune systems. “We know that 90% of adults have a deficiency in vitamins – what better to improve that than an IV immune boost? “https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/11/disease-dodging-worried-wealthy-jet-off-to-disaster-bunkers
Is that vitamin claim in any way true?
I’m sure it would be pretty easy to work out optimum vitamin levels that would make 90% of adults deficient.
If carefully balanced those levels might not even be harmful.
Many years ago, I heard that Americans get 25% of their vit C from McDonald’s French fries. (I think it was one of Oprah’s weight loss episodes.)
sibeen said:
“Ali said his clinic was also offering the worried wealthy an intravenous infusion of vitamins and minerals to boost their immune systems. “We know that 90% of adults have a deficiency in vitamins – what better to improve that than an IV immune boost? “https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/11/disease-dodging-worried-wealthy-jet-off-to-disaster-bunkers
Is that vitamin claim in any way true?
Well, for a start, who is ‘we’, and just how to ‘we’ ‘know’?
Maybe ‘we’ ‘know’ that a lot of wealthy people are self-obsessed, largely ignorant, and unable to believe that a ‘cure’ just can’t be had for a big enough amount of money, and will part with such sums simply assure them of their ‘special’ status and their illusion of safety.
Divine Angel said:
Many years ago, I heard that Americans get 25% of their vit C from McDonald’s French fries. (I think it was one of Oprah’s weight loss episodes.)
So probably false.
Pregnant women, cancer patients, and the elderly are often deficient in one micronutrient or another.
Combining various references it appears 16% of Australians have an iron deficiency (mostly women), 14% have a vit D deficiency, some amount less than 10% have calcium deficiency.
captain_spalding said:
sibeen said:
“Ali said his clinic was also offering the worried wealthy an intravenous infusion of vitamins and minerals to boost their immune systems. “We know that 90% of adults have a deficiency in vitamins – what better to improve that than an IV immune boost? “https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/11/disease-dodging-worried-wealthy-jet-off-to-disaster-bunkers
Is that vitamin claim in any way true?
Well, for a start, who is ‘we’, and just how to ‘we’ ‘know’?
Maybe ‘we’ ‘know’ that a lot of wealthy people are self-obsessed, largely ignorant, and unable to believe that a ‘cure’ just can’t be had for a big enough amount of money, and will part with such sums simply assure them of their ‘special’ status and their illusion of safety.
Good summation.
captain_spalding said:
sibeen said:
“Ali said his clinic was also offering the worried wealthy an intravenous infusion of vitamins and minerals to boost their immune systems. “We know that 90% of adults have a deficiency in vitamins – what better to improve that than an IV immune boost? “https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/11/disease-dodging-worried-wealthy-jet-off-to-disaster-bunkers
Is that vitamin claim in any way true?
Well, for a start, who is ‘we’, and just how to ‘we’ ‘know’?
Maybe ‘we’ ‘know’ that a lot of wealthy people are self-obsessed, largely ignorant, and unable to believe that a ‘cure’ just can’t be had for a big enough amount of money, and will part with such sums simply assure them of their ‘special’ status and their illusion of safety.
No use hiding under a false login.
We know it’s you transition.
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
sibeen said:
“Ali said his clinic was also offering the worried wealthy an intravenous infusion of vitamins and minerals to boost their immune systems. “We know that 90% of adults have a deficiency in vitamins – what better to improve that than an IV immune boost? “https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/11/disease-dodging-worried-wealthy-jet-off-to-disaster-bunkers
Is that vitamin claim in any way true?
Well, for a start, who is ‘we’, and just how to ‘we’ ‘know’?
Maybe ‘we’ ‘know’ that a lot of wealthy people are self-obsessed, largely ignorant, and unable to believe that a ‘cure’ just can’t be had for a big enough amount of money, and will part with such sums simply assure them of their ‘special’ status and their illusion of safety.
Good summation.
in fairness, it’s probably true
that approaching that proportion of wealthy privileged adults are deficient (or close to) in vitamin
D because of a variety of factors but largely that they do not need to do hard labour in harsh sunlight and get a natural tan, instead opting for fake tan, fake news, and orange shit
photosynthesis — it makes your bones
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/11/us/politics/coronavirus-conservative-media.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage
The stupid…it burns.
sibeen said:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/11/us/politics/coronavirus-conservative-media.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=HomepageThe stupid…it burns.
Bronwyn Bishop made similar comments on Sky, according to this week’s Media Watch.
sibeen said:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/11/us/politics/coronavirus-conservative-media.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=HomepageThe stupid…it burns.
wtf though seems odd they’d try to fight it off
in seriousness it’s that opportunity to declare emergency and call off elections indefinitely, president for life and all that, why would you squander it by bullshitting the media
sibeen said:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/11/us/politics/coronavirus-conservative-media.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=HomepageThe stupid…it burns.
Yes.
I just got a text stating that all Telstra staff are to work from home from Monday until the end of March.
Wonder if Eurovision will be cancelled.
sibeen said:
I just got a text stating that all Telstra staff are to work from home from Monday until the end of March.
Oh, so now they don’t just want you to stay at home waiting for them to get around to dropping in to fix your phone problems – they’re going to stay home as well.
sibeen said:
I just got a text stating that all Telstra staff are to work from home from Monday until the end of March.
don’t you work fro m home anyway?
Bubblecar said:
Wonder if Eurovision will be cancelled.
You could phone most of it in, anyway.
Greece votes for Cyprus, Cyprus votes for Greece, Austria votes for Germany, Germany votes for Austria….
Bubblecar said:
Wonder if Eurovision will be cancelled.
We can only hope so.
Arts said:
sibeen said:
I just got a text stating that all Telstra staff are to work from home from Monday until the end of March.
don’t you work fro m home anyway?
If you can call reading the Guardian and hanging here working…
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
Wonder if Eurovision will be cancelled.
We can only hope so.
It’d be an ill wind indeed that didn’t blow at least that much good.
captain_spalding said:
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
Wonder if Eurovision will be cancelled.
We can only hope so.
It’d be an ill wind indeed that didn’t blow at least that much good.
wont feel like a proper year without some Finnish death metal band getting their moment of fame.
Arts said:
sibeen said:
I just got a text stating that all Telstra staff are to work from home from Monday until the end of March.
don’t you work fro m home anyway?
Yes, but I don’t work for Telstra even though the majority of my work is for Telstra. If those fuckers are skyving off at home jobs won’t get generataed and I won’t be able to rip off invoice for well performed services.
sibeen said:
Arts said:
sibeen said:
I just got a text stating that all Telstra staff are to work from home from Monday until the end of March.
don’t you work fro m home anyway?
Yes, but I don’t work for Telstra even though the majority of my work is for Telstra. If those fuckers are skyving off at home jobs won’t get generataed and I won’t be able to
rip offinvoice for well performed services.
you should go into their offices.. you will have the pick of the hot desks.
Arts said:
although isn’t COVID-19 the ‘novel’ virus?
Arts said:
Yeah the touching the face thing may be still ok as long as you have washed your hands vigorously first.
Arts said:
Arts said:
although isn’t COVID-19 the ‘novel’ virus?
Has reams written about it already.
roughbarked said:
Arts said:
Arts said:
although isn’t COVID-19 the ‘novel’ virus?
Has reams written about it already.
The novelty wears off, eventually.
Arts said:
Arts said:
although isn’t COVID-19 the ‘novel’ virus?
yep.
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
Arts said:although isn’t COVID-19 the ‘novel’ virus?
Has reams written about it already.
The novelty wears off, eventually.
It will probably mutate and become Covid-21
“coronavirus is a novel virus”
I think he didn’t understand.
dv said:
“coronavirus is a novel virus”I think he didn’t understand.
He just doesn’t understand Mexican, that’s all.
sibeen said:
dv said:
“coronavirus is a novel virus”I think he didn’t understand.
He just doesn’t understand Mexican, that’s all.
https://www.lifeinnorway.net/norway-is-closed-coronavirus/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidnikel/2020/03/12/norway-says-no-to-international-travelers-as-emergency-coronavirus-measures-start/
roughbarked said:
https://www.lifeinnorway.net/norway-is-closed-coronavirus/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidnikel/2020/03/12/norway-says-no-to-international-travelers-as-emergency-coronavirus-measures-start/
Regarding corona. Yeah we have too many Rick ski crazy idiot in Norway. They brought back a shitty souvenir this time around.
The government was slow to act properly. They didn’t include Austria and Switzerland in the list of high risk areas you had to self isolate if you returned from there.
Astrid’s sister has been in self-isolate with her family because they were in Switzerland and northern Italy skiing. No symptoms there as far as I know and today is last day of isolation for them. We have stayed away from them even before their isolation period was strengthened by govt (initially family were allowed to work/school as normal, only Astrid’s sisters work was extra careful and said she had to be at home).
Astrid’s work had a night shift worker who has had to self quarantine as her partner has the virus. Her work takes care of at least one immune compromised person so they are taking zero chances.
My work has cancelled all planned social events until August.
Same with entertainment sector. We had tickets to two comedy shows at a local venue.
Both have been postponed until further notice.
My GP has no time for patients as his other position as head of infectious disease protection for the local council has suddenly become 16 hour a day job.
sibeen said:
I just got a text stating that all Telstra staff are to work from home from Monday until the end of March.
That’s an interesting concept for linesmen and faultfinders.
buffy said:
sibeen said:
I just got a text stating that all Telstra staff are to work from home from Monday until the end of March.
That’s an interesting concept for linesmen and faultfinders.
That’s okay there are only a few Telstra workers left in Australia now as a considerable amount of their jobs went offshore.
monkey skipper said:
buffy said:
sibeen said:
I just got a text stating that all Telstra staff are to work from home from Monday until the end of March.
That’s an interesting concept for linesmen and faultfinders.
That’s okay there are only a few Telstra workers left in Australia now as a considerable amount of their jobs went offshore.
Or into the franchise shops.
buffy said:
monkey skipper said:
buffy said:That’s an interesting concept for linesmen and faultfinders.
That’s okay there are only a few Telstra workers left in Australia now as a considerable amount of their jobs went offshore.
Or into the franchise shops.
indeed.
