Date: 5/03/2020 19:04:23
From: dv
ID: 1509870
Subject: Protein in meteorite

Early doors, keep your shirt on, but huge if true. They’ve published on Arxiv rather than waiting for publication in a major journal.

https://phys.org/news/2020-03-protein-meteorite.html?fbclid=IwAR1B-09BSaSzuhN9RxazdtSY0ncXK9yich05-mSKC4isxffccMEHL1tuG7Q


A team of researchers from Plex Corporation, Bruker Scientific LLC and Harvard University has found evidence of a protein inside of a meteorite.

In prior research, scientists have found organic materials, sugars and some other molecules considered to be precursors to amino acids in both meteorites and comets—and fully formed amino acids have been found in comets and meteorites, as well. But until now, no proteins had been found inside of an extraterrestrial object. In this new effort, the researchers have discovered a protein called hemolithin inside of a meteorite that was found in Algeria back in 1990.

https://arxiv.org/abs/2002.11688

This paper characterizes the first protein to be discovered in a meteorite. Amino acid polymers previously observed in Acfer 086 and Allende meteorites have been further characterized in Acfer 086 via high precision MALDI mass spectrometry to reveal a principal unified structure of molecular weight 2320 Daltons that involves chains of glycine and hydroxy-glycine residues terminated by iron atoms, with additional oxygen and lithium atoms. Signal-to-noise ratios up to 135 have allowed the quantification of iron and lithium in the various MALDI fragments via the isotope satellites due to their respective minority isotopic masses 54Fe and 6Li. Analysis of the complete spectrum of isotopes associated with each molecular fragment shows 2H enhancements above terrestrial averaging 25,700 parts per thousand (sigma = 3,500, n=15), confirming extra-terrestrial origin and hence the existence of this molecule within the asteroid parent body of the CV3 meteorite class. The molecule is tipped by an iron-oxygen-iron grouping that in other terrestrial contexts has been proposed to be capable of absorbing photons and splitting water into hydroxyl and hydrogen moieties.
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Date: 5/03/2020 19:07:37
From: Michael V
ID: 1509875
Subject: re: Protein in meteorite

dv said:


Early doors, keep your shirt on, but huge if true. They’ve published on Arxiv rather than waiting for publication in a major journal.

https://phys.org/news/2020-03-protein-meteorite.html?fbclid=IwAR1B-09BSaSzuhN9RxazdtSY0ncXK9yich05-mSKC4isxffccMEHL1tuG7Q


A team of researchers from Plex Corporation, Bruker Scientific LLC and Harvard University has found evidence of a protein inside of a meteorite.

In prior research, scientists have found organic materials, sugars and some other molecules considered to be precursors to amino acids in both meteorites and comets—and fully formed amino acids have been found in comets and meteorites, as well. But until now, no proteins had been found inside of an extraterrestrial object. In this new effort, the researchers have discovered a protein called hemolithin inside of a meteorite that was found in Algeria back in 1990.

https://arxiv.org/abs/2002.11688

This paper characterizes the first protein to be discovered in a meteorite. Amino acid polymers previously observed in Acfer 086 and Allende meteorites have been further characterized in Acfer 086 via high precision MALDI mass spectrometry to reveal a principal unified structure of molecular weight 2320 Daltons that involves chains of glycine and hydroxy-glycine residues terminated by iron atoms, with additional oxygen and lithium atoms. Signal-to-noise ratios up to 135 have allowed the quantification of iron and lithium in the various MALDI fragments via the isotope satellites due to their respective minority isotopic masses 54Fe and 6Li. Analysis of the complete spectrum of isotopes associated with each molecular fragment shows 2H enhancements above terrestrial averaging 25,700 parts per thousand (sigma = 3,500, n=15), confirming extra-terrestrial origin and hence the existence of this molecule within the asteroid parent body of the CV3 meteorite class. The molecule is tipped by an iron-oxygen-iron grouping that in other terrestrial contexts has been proposed to be capable of absorbing photons and splitting water into hydroxyl and hydrogen moieties.

Interesting, thanks.

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Date: 5/03/2020 19:45:01
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1509892
Subject: re: Protein in meteorite

God

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Date: 5/03/2020 23:22:01
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1510036
Subject: re: Protein in meteorite

Amino acids in meteorites have been known since as far back as rye 1960s, but this is new.

> . Amino acid polymers previously observed in Acfer 086 and Allende meteorites have been further characterized in Acfer 086 via high precision MALDI mass spectrometry to reveal a principal unified structure of molecular weight 2320 Daltons that involves chains of glycine and hydroxy-glycine residues terminated by iron atoms, with additional oxygen and lithium atoms. Signal-to-noise ratios up to 135 have allowed the quantification of iron and lithium in the various MALDI fragments .

Iron and lithium aren’t normal components of protein. That makes this discovery doubly interesting.

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Date: 6/03/2020 14:15:49
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1510319
Subject: re: Protein in meteorite

SCIENCE said:


God

Cut and paste Figure 7 from https://arxiv.org/abs/2002.11688 into this forum? It’s really fascinating.

Think of it as the universe’s first ever protein-like macromolecule. You know how DNA is a pair of chains that comes apart when its hydrogen bonds are broken. Well, this is a pair of protein chains that comes apart when its non-protein ends are removed and its hydrogen bonds are broken.

The image shows the ends stabilised with an Fe2O5H2 group, but another end stabiliser is just FeO3.

2320 hemolithin

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Date: 6/03/2020 14:50:46
From: Michael V
ID: 1510350
Subject: re: Protein in meteorite

mollwollfumble said:


SCIENCE said:

God

Cut and paste Figure 7 from https://arxiv.org/abs/2002.11688 into this forum? It’s really fascinating.

Think of it as the universe’s first ever protein-like macromolecule. You know how DNA is a pair of chains that comes apart when its hydrogen bonds are broken. Well, this is a pair of protein chains that comes apart when its non-protein ends are removed and its hydrogen bonds are broken.

The image shows the ends stabilised with an Fe2O5H2 group, but another end stabiliser is just FeO3.

2320 hemolithin


Oh, nice. A simple self-replicating microvirus that eats rocks.

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Date: 7/03/2020 06:17:50
From: transition
ID: 1510712
Subject: re: Protein in meteorite

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panspermia
i’m here^, reading, interesting subject

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Date: 7/03/2020 18:14:50
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1510973
Subject: re: Protein in meteorite

Michael V said:


mollwollfumble said:

SCIENCE said:

God

Cut and paste Figure 7 from https://arxiv.org/abs/2002.11688 into this forum? It’s really fascinating.

Think of it as the universe’s first ever protein-like macromolecule. You know how DNA is a pair of chains that comes apart when its hydrogen bonds are broken. Well, this is a pair of protein chains that comes apart when its non-protein ends are removed and its hydrogen bonds are broken.

The image shows the ends stabilised with an Fe2O5H2 group, but another end stabiliser is just FeO3.

2320 hemolithin


Oh, nice. A simple self-replicating microvirus that eats rocks.

Not quite a virus. Not quite a prion.

Is this bonding arrangement between strands the same as a beta-sheet?

For a type of beta-sheet see

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