After being out of action so much last year, so not cooking much, I have made a resolution to get back to eating healthier and lose weight. Today I bought the ingredients for a spinach and ricotta lasagne. It’s no wonder there’s so many over weight people, it cost more to buy ingriedients than to just pick up a Sara Lee one from the freezer section. Broccolli and beans are very exxy ATM too. I wish I had room for a veg patch again. It must be very difficult for people on low incomes..
Now I need to convince the younger men in the family to cut down on the amount of meat we eat.
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not just you bubba – everyone from michelle obama to the poor of africa would have the same resolution.

twelve vego recipes i use constantly

1. savoury pancake rolls – nutmeat and milk with fresh ground nutmeg. charmaine solomon.
2. homemade hot potato (kennebecs) chips in frymaster with fresh salad
3. gluten steaks and homegrown boiled veges
4. fried rice with gluten strips (can use tvp)
5. tofu and veg with lemon and cheese
6. herbal vegetable soup – fresh oregano, garlic, thyme and parsley fried with the onions first
7. mexican – using sanitarium ‘casserole mince’ instead of meat
8. spanish omelette with homegrown red capsicum and desiree spuds
9. pizza – thin homemade pastry – no meat but asparagus, fetta cubes, caps, olives etc.
10. rice with greens and a peanut sauce (gado gado?)
11.zucchini patties with chargrilled veg on the bbq
12.lentil sheperds pie.

pepe said:

After being out of action so much last year, so not cooking much, I have made a resolution to get back to eating healthier and lose weight. Today I bought the ingredients for a spinach and ricotta lasagne. It’s no wonder there’s so many over weight people, it cost more to buy ingriedients than to just pick up a Sara Lee one from the freezer section. Broccolli and beans are very exxy ATM too. I wish I had room for a veg patch again. It must be very difficult for people on low incomes..
Now I need to convince the younger men in the family to cut down on the amount of meat we eat.
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not just you bubba – everyone from michelle obama to the poor of africa would have the same resolution.

twelve vego recipes i use constantly

1. savoury pancake rolls – nutmeat and milk with fresh ground nutmeg. charmaine solomon.
2. homemade hot potato (kennebecs) chips in frymaster with fresh salad
3. gluten steaks and homegrown boiled veges
4. fried rice with gluten strips (can use tvp)
5. tofu and veg with lemon and cheese
6. herbal vegetable soup – fresh oregano, garlic, thyme and parsley fried with the onions first
7. mexican – using sanitarium ‘casserole mince’ instead of meat
8. spanish omelette with homegrown red capsicum and desiree spuds
9. pizza – thin homemade pastry – no meat but asparagus, fetta cubes, caps, olives etc.
10. rice with greens and a peanut sauce (gado gado?)
11.zucchini patties with chargrilled veg on the bbq
12.lentil sheperds pie.

All good, but I’m looking for low fat as well.

It’s not that we normally eat a lot of processed food but while I’ve been recovering the men of the house have been in charge of cooking. Lots of sausages and packaged stuff from the supermarket freezer, so now I’m craving veg.

pepe said:

12.lentil sheperds pie.

I had a vegetarian cookbook with a great recipe for lentil shepherd’s pie.. the cookbook has disappeared :(

All good, but I’m looking for low fat as well. It’s not that we normally eat a lot of processed food but while I’ve been recovering the men of the house have been in charge of cooking. Lots of sausages and packaged stuff from the supermarket freezer, so now I’m craving veg.
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do the boys garden?
low fat is too hard at this stage. change to one meat meal a day and after three months start reducing fats etc.

bon008 said:

pepe said:

12.lentil sheperds pie.

I had a vegetarian cookbook with a great recipe for lentil shepherd’s pie.. the cookbook has disappeared :(

look up the ‘cook and chef’ recipe – that’s the one i use – modified to suit myself.

pepe said:

bon008 said:

pepe said:

12.lentil sheperds pie.

I had a vegetarian cookbook with a great recipe for lentil shepherd’s pie.. the cookbook has disappeared :(

look up the ‘cook and chef’ recipe – that’s the one i use – modified to suit myself.

Ooh, cool – Mr Bon loves that show. Might motivate him to make it… :D

bon008 said:

pepe said:

bon008 said:

I had a vegetarian cookbook with a great recipe for lentil shepherd’s pie.. the cookbook has disappeared :(

look up the ‘cook and chef’ recipe – that’s the one i use – modified to suit myself.

Ooh, cool – Mr Bon loves that show. Might motivate him to make it… :D

Or just do what I do…make it up as you go along and throw in whatever you have on the day. My meals are rarely exactly the same twice and except for baking or trying a new recipe, I never measure quantities – the only thing is, if it turns out to be extra nice, you have to write it all down because three weeks later, you can’t remember what you did that made it so good.

hortfurball said:

bon008 said:

pepe said:

look up the ‘cook and chef’ recipe – that’s the one i use – modified to suit myself.

Ooh, cool – Mr Bon loves that show. Might motivate him to make it… :D

Or just do what I do…make it up as you go along and throw in whatever you have on the day. My meals are rarely exactly the same twice and except for baking or trying a new recipe, I never measure quantities – the only thing is, if it turns out to be extra nice, you have to write it all down because three weeks later, you can’t remember what you did that made it so good.

Yeh, that is how Mr Bon cooks. That’s fine if I want to eat what he feels like cooking. Just trying to think of ways to interest him in cooking what I feel like eating. And no, it’s not so important to me that I will cook instead of him. Mostly the food he feels like cooking is awesome.

bon008 said:

hortfurball said:

bon008 said:

Ooh, cool – Mr Bon loves that show. Might motivate him to make it… :D

Or just do what I do…make it up as you go along and throw in whatever you have on the day. My meals are rarely exactly the same twice and except for baking or trying a new recipe, I never measure quantities – the only thing is, if it turns out to be extra nice, you have to write it all down because three weeks later, you can’t remember what you did that made it so good.

Yeh, that is how Mr Bon cooks. That’s fine if I want to eat what he feels like cooking. Just trying to think of ways to interest him in cooking what I feel like eating. And no, it’s not so important to me that I will cook instead of him. Mostly the food he feels like cooking is awesome.

I rarely cook but if I go to the effort it has to be worth it.

curried lentil pies are among my faves

“Alive and cooking” recipes pages is worth the visit.

roughbarked said:

bon008 said:

hortfurball said:

Or just do what I do…make it up as you go along and throw in whatever you have on the day. My meals are rarely exactly the same twice and except for baking or trying a new recipe, I never measure quantities – the only thing is, if it turns out to be extra nice, you have to write it all down because three weeks later, you can’t remember what you did that made it so good.

Yeh, that is how Mr Bon cooks. That’s fine if I want to eat what he feels like cooking. Just trying to think of ways to interest him in cooking what I feel like eating. And no, it’s not so important to me that I will cook instead of him. Mostly the food he feels like cooking is awesome.

I rarely cook but if I go to the effort it has to be worth it.

curried lentil pies are among my faves

“Alive and cooking” recipes pages is worth the visit.

I LOVE Alive & Cooking. Mr Bon got the Alive & Cooking cookbook for Christmas :) Pity it’s on TV at a time when I can never be home to watch it :( Except when I’m sick.

Does anyone know how I can recycle BBQ’d steak? It’s hard and unappetising as it is. Can I casserole it? Will it soften? Please?

hortfurball said:

bon008 said:

pepe said:

look up the ‘cook and chef’ recipe – that’s the one i use – modified to suit myself.

Ooh, cool – Mr Bon loves that show. Might motivate him to make it… :D

Or just do what I do…make it up as you go along and throw in whatever you have on the day. My meals are rarely exactly the same twice and except for baking or trying a new recipe, I never measure quantities – the only thing is, if it turns out to be extra nice, you have to write it all down because three weeks later, you can’t remember what you did that made it so good.

Three weeks later!!! I’ve forgotten by the next day.

bon008 said:

roughbarked said:

bon008 said:

Yeh, that is how Mr Bon cooks. That’s fine if I want to eat what he feels like cooking. Just trying to think of ways to interest him in cooking what I feel like eating. And no, it’s not so important to me that I will cook instead of him. Mostly the food he feels like cooking is awesome.

I rarely cook but if I go to the effort it has to be worth it.

curried lentil pies are among my faves

“Alive and cooking” recipes pages is worth the visit.

I LOVE Alive & Cooking. Mr Bon got the Alive & Cooking cookbook for Christmas :) Pity it’s on TV at a time when I can never be home to watch it :( Except when I’m sick.

For Christmas we aquired the Webber Kettle BBQ Cookbook. Stephanie Alexander’s “Kitchen Garden Companion.” Then a doctor friend of ours gave us “The Owners Manual to Inner and Outer Beauty.” There was a HUGE hint behind the last one I feel. He is a lovely man though.

orchid40 said:

Does anyone know how I can recycle BBQ’d steak? It’s hard and unappetising as it is. Can I casserole it? Will it soften? Please?

Yes.

>Pity it’s on TV at a time when I can never be home to watch it :(

Tape it, or better still, with the sales on now buy yourself a digital recorder with a hard disk innit.

CollieWA said:

>Pity it’s on TV at a time when I can never be home to watch it :(

Tape it, or better still, with the sales on now buy yourself a digital recorder with a hard disk innit.

We have a media centre PC. Generally speaking everything we want to watch, is scheduled to record. If we happen to watch it when it’s on (doesn’t happen often) it gets deleted right away. However I try to avoid putting in a scheduled recording for something that’s on every day. We did that with Scrapheap Challenge and it can takes months to get through the backlog if you get behind.. so Alive & Cooking is an afternoon pick me up for days when I’m ill.

>We have a media centre PC.

Is it a Mythtv based one or a bought-set-up one?

CollieWA said:

>We have a media centre PC.

Is it a Mythtv based one or a bought-set-up one?

Umm. Not sure what you mean, but it’s DIY’ed. Fancy case, don’t know much about the insides except I think at last count we have three working tuners.. or did he not get around to fixing #3… can’t remember.

One of Mr Bon’s hobbies: http://www.adventmediacenter.com/

bon008 said:

pepe said:

12.lentil sheperds pie.

I had a vegetarian cookbook with a great recipe for lentil shepherd’s pie.. the cookbook has disappeared :(

I used to make one from a book put out by a popular Bris vego restaurant called “Squirrels”, but when the kids came along they didn’t like it and I’ve given the book away.

It had a creamy sauce anyway and was far from low fat.

pepe said:

All good, but I’m looking for low fat as well. It’s not that we normally eat a lot of processed food but while I’ve been recovering the men of the house have been in charge of cooking. Lots of sausages and packaged stuff from the supermarket freezer, so now I’m craving veg.
————————————
do the boys garden?
low fat is too hard at this stage. change to one meat meal a day and after three months start reducing fats etc.

My boys garden? ROTFPIMP

I would do it myself but I don’t have room anymore. When our water restrictions got too bad I turned the veg garden into perenniels, and I can’t bring myself to toss them now.

pomolo said:

orchid40 said:

Does anyone know how I can recycle BBQ’d steak? It’s hard and unappetising as it is. Can I casserole it? Will it soften? Please?

Yes.

Is it already cooked?

orchid40 said:

>>> Does anyone know how I can recycle BBQ’d steak? It’s hard and unappetising as it is. Can I casserole it? Will it soften? Please?

> Yes.

>Is it already cooked?

I think the “BBQ’d” bit might imply that.. 8^)

CollieWA said:

orchid40 said:

>>> Does anyone know how I can recycle BBQ’d steak? It’s hard and unappetising as it is. Can I casserole it? Will it soften? Please?

> Yes.

>Is it already cooked?

I think the “BBQ’d” bit might imply that.. 8^)

You can buy steak that’s called BBQ steak so I’m just making sure.

bubba louie said:

pomolo said:

orchid40 said:

Does anyone know how I can recycle BBQ’d steak? It’s hard and unappetising as it is. Can I casserole it? Will it soften? Please?

Yes.

Is it already cooked?

Yes, it’s been BBQ’d
Thanks Pom :)

orchid40 said:

bubba louie said:

pomolo said:

Yes.

Is it already cooked?

Yes, it’s been BBQ’d
Thanks Pom :)

mince it?

I LOVE Alive & Cooking. Mr Bon got the Alive & Cooking cookbook for Christmas :) Pity it’s on TV at a time when I can never be home to watch it
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never heard of it but i will look it up thanks.

For Christmas we aquired the Webber Kettle BBQ Cookbook. Stephanie Alexander’s “Kitchen Garden Companion.” Then a doctor friend of ours gave us “The Owners Manual to Inner and Outer Beauty.” There was a HUGE hint behind the last one I feel. He is a lovely man though.
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two more references – this could be a long stint.

bubba louie said:

pepe said:

All good, but I’m looking for low fat as well. It’s not that we normally eat a lot of processed food but while I’ve been recovering the men of the house have been in charge of cooking. Lots of sausages and packaged stuff from the supermarket freezer, so now I’m craving veg.
————————————
do the boys garden?
low fat is too hard at this stage. change to one meat meal a day and after three months start reducing fats etc.

My boys garden? ROTFPIMP

i’ll take that as a definite no LOL.

I would do it myself but I don’t have room anymore. When our water restrictions got too bad I turned the veg garden into perenniels, and I can’t bring myself to toss them now.

maybe plant basil between the roses. basil toms and roses have similar soil requirements

pain master said:

orchid40 said:

bubba louie said:

Is it already cooked?

Yes, it’s been BBQ’d
Thanks Pom :)

mince it?

Shredded, minced or grated and added to soups, you can dry it and my favourite – with sticky rice.
!http://www.thaitable.com/Thai/recipes/Sticky_Rice.htm

Grab some rice and dip in the meat then in whatever sauce you prefer, particularly yummy with dried squid.

Im particularly fond of any cookbook from the Hare Krishners, all vegan and usually cheap ingredients. Lots of pulses, good for the bowels.

pepe said:

For Christmas we aquired the Webber Kettle BBQ Cookbook. Stephanie Alexander’s “Kitchen Garden Companion.” Then a doctor friend of ours gave us “The Owners Manual to Inner and Outer Beauty.” There was a HUGE hint behind the last one I feel. He is a lovely man though.
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two more references – this could be a long stint.

Anytime you’re ready Pepe.

pepe said:

bubba louie said:

pepe said:

All good, but I’m looking for low fat as well. It’s not that we normally eat a lot of processed food but while I’ve been recovering the men of the house have been in charge of cooking. Lots of sausages and packaged stuff from the supermarket freezer, so now I’m craving veg.
————————————
do the boys garden?
low fat is too hard at this stage. change to one meat meal a day and after three months start reducing fats etc.

My boys garden? ROTFPIMP

i’ll take that as a definite no LOL.

I would do it myself but I don’t have room anymore. When our water restrictions got too bad I turned the veg garden into perenniels, and I can’t bring myself to toss them now.

maybe plant basil between the roses. basil toms and roses have similar soil requirements

I can’t imagine your place without a vegie or two growing Bubba.

shell bell said:

pain master said:

orchid40 said:

Yes, it’s been BBQ’d
Thanks Pom :)

mince it?

Shredded, minced or grated and added to soups, you can dry it and my favourite – with sticky rice.
!http://www.thaitable.com/Thai/recipes/Sticky_Rice.htm

Grab some rice and dip in the meat then in whatever sauce you prefer, particularly yummy with dried squid.

Thanks guys – I am going to mince it and make a shepherds pie with it.

pepe said:

bubba louie said:

pepe said:

All good, but I’m looking for low fat as well. It’s not that we normally eat a lot of processed food but while I’ve been recovering the men of the house have been in charge of cooking. Lots of sausages and packaged stuff from the supermarket freezer, so now I’m craving veg.
————————————
do the boys garden?
low fat is too hard at this stage. change to one meat meal a day and after three months start reducing fats etc.

My boys garden? ROTFPIMP

i’ll take that as a definite no LOL.

I would do it myself but I don’t have room anymore. When our water restrictions got too bad I turned the veg garden into perenniels, and I can’t bring myself to toss them now.

maybe plant basil between the roses. basil toms and roses have similar soil requirements

No roses.

pomolo said:

pepe said:

bubba louie said:

My boys garden? ROTFPIMP

i’ll take that as a definite no LOL.

I would do it myself but I don’t have room anymore. When our water restrictions got too bad I turned the veg garden into perenniels, and I can’t bring myself to toss them now.

maybe plant basil between the roses. basil toms and roses have similar soil requirements

I can’t imagine your place without a vegie or two growing Bubba.

I’ve still got herbs.

shell bell said:

Im particularly fond of any cookbook from the Hare Krishners, all vegan and usually cheap ingredients. Lots of pulses, good for the bowels.

Kurma dasa has been mentioned on this forum recently, but worthy of another mention now :)

Im particularly fond of any cookbook from the Hare Krishners, all vegan and usually cheap ingredients. Lots of pulses, good for the bowels.

Kurma dasa has been mentioned on this forum recently, but worthy of another mention now :)

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Big tick!

pain master said:

shell bell said:

Im particularly fond of any cookbook from the Hare Krishners, all vegan and usually cheap ingredients. Lots of pulses, good for the bowels.

Kurma dasa has been mentioned on this forum recently, but worthy of another mention now :)

i looked him up.
good use of veges but no attempt to reduce fat from what i could see.

pepe said:

pain master said:

shell bell said:

Im particularly fond of any cookbook from the Hare Krishners, all vegan and usually cheap ingredients. Lots of pulses, good for the bowels.

Kurma dasa has been mentioned on this forum recently, but worthy of another mention now :)

i looked him up.
good use of veges but no attempt to reduce fat from what i could see.

he doesn’t mind some ghee, I’ll grant you that.

i looked him up. good use of veges but no attempt to reduce fat from what i could see.
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he doesn’t mind some ghee, I’ll grant you that.
———————-
probably the most important thing when turning vego is to include some protein in every meal… this isn’t difficult with cheese, eggs and nuts but is a real prob for lacto vegetarians (no milk products or eggs).
if you just cut out the meat and don’t find suitable substitutes it can be very bad for health.

pepe said:

It’s no wonder there’s so many over weight people, it cost more to buy ingredients than to just pick up a Sara Lee one from the freezer section.

just out of interest and don’t reply if you don’t wish to disclose, how much per person per month do you (that is forum members, not just pepe!) spend on food and general groceries?

bluegreen said:

pepe said:

It’s no wonder there’s so many over weight people, it cost more to buy ingredients than to just pick up a Sara Lee one from the freezer section.

just out of interest and don’t reply if you don’t wish to disclose, how much per person per month do you (that is forum members, not just pepe!) spend on food and general groceries?

Hmm.. I don’t tend to know, as Mr Bon usually pays (well, same money, but his card). I think we would spend about $80-120 a week? That’s for just the two of us. But we buy our soap, shampoo, toothpaste etc from a different place to where we get food, toilet paper, so it’s kind of hard to keep track. I should start paying more attention when Mr Bon pays, but I’m usually quite busy finishing up the bagging and putting the trolley away :D

Since it’s just two of us we don’t make an effort to find cheaper things – we pick our food primarily based on where the company is owned, how far away the food came from, and we choose small companies over big ones. Might not have that luxury when the family grows, but it works for the time being :)

thanks bon

pepe said:

i looked him up. good use of veges but no attempt to reduce fat from what i could see.
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he doesn’t mind some ghee, I’ll grant you that.
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probably the most important thing when turning vego is to include some protein in every meal… this isn’t difficult with cheese, eggs and nuts but is a real prob for lacto vegetarians (no milk products or eggs).
if you just cut out the meat and don’t find suitable substitutes it can be very bad for health.

(no milk products or eggs)= Lacto Ovo Vegetarians.

They also have to take suppliments for one of the Vit B’s. Can’t remember which.

bluegreen said:

pepe said:

It’s no wonder there’s so many over weight people, it cost more to buy ingredients than to just pick up a Sara Lee one from the freezer section.

just out of interest and don’t reply if you don’t wish to disclose, how much per person per month do you (that is forum members, not just pepe!) spend on food and general groceries?

I’m really not sure. I do so many small shops during a week that I lose track.

bubba louie said:

They also have to take suppliments for one of the Vit B’s. Can’t remember which.

that’s right. vitamin B12 is only found in foods of animal origin, so if you don’t eat meat products you need to take supplements

Vitamin B12 (cyanocobalamin)
Vitamin B12 is involved in the production and maintenance of the myelin surrounding nerve cells, mental ability, red blood cell formation and the breaking down of some fatty acids and amino acids to produce energy. Vitamin B12 has a close relationship with folate, as both depend on the other to work properly. More information about vitamin B12:

* Good sources of B12 – these include liver, meat, milk, cheese and eggs – almost anything of animal origin. * Vitamin B12 deficiency – this is most common in the elderly, vegans (vitamin B12 is only found in foods of animal origin) and breastfed babies of vegan mothers and is called pernicious anaemia. Symptoms include: tiredness and fatigue, lack of appetite and weight loss, apathy and depression, anaemia, smooth tongue and degeneration of peripheral nerves progressing to paralysis. http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/bhcv2/bhcarticles.nsf/pages/Vitamin_B

bluegreen said:

pepe said:

It’s no wonder there’s so many over weight people, it cost more to buy ingredients than to just pick up a Sara Lee one from the freezer section.

just out of interest and don’t reply if you don’t wish to disclose, how much per person per month do you (that is forum members, not just pepe!) spend on food and general groceries?

Interesting question BG. I have no idea! I do a lot of small shops or when I’m out and see something on special ect. It’s hard to work out too, when theres varying numbers for meals as with us, between 3 and 6 for tea daily. I know I used to spend more, but growing basics like spuds and herbs, spring onions and what not, and especially with eggs and citrus fruits , I do spend less. I also bulk shop for cake orders ,10 kg butter blocks , 2 kg cream cheese blocks ,500 ml vanilla essences and 20 kg bags of flours. and theres the income from that too.
Basically I buy meats, cheeses, rice ,tea coffee sugar, olive oil, , things like lentils and grains, split peas ect. and cleaning and toiletry stuffs. Probably $200 a week just for us based on 3 people.
I bake bread , pizza doughs ,and sweet and savory bikkies. Bottled passata from my tomatoes and fruit jams and make my own stocks. It’s hard to put a dollar value on it.

I buy stuff when I remember!

B12 is in modest amounts in mushies too I think..

CollieWA said:

I buy stuff when I remember!

B12 is in modest amounts in mushies too I think..

Don’t they call them the vegetarians’ meat?

>Don’t they call them the vegetarians’ meat?

Yep.

bluegreen said:

* Vitamin B12 deficiency – this is most common in the elderly, vegans (vitamin B12 is only found in foods of animal origin) and breastfed babies of vegan mothers and is called pernicious anaemia. Symptoms include: tiredness and fatigue, lack of appetite and weight loss, apathy and depression, anaemia, smooth tongue and degeneration of peripheral nerves progressing to paralysis. http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/bhcv2/bhcarticles.nsf/pages/Vitamin_B

I got myself tested for pernicious anaemia once – was hoping it might be the cause of the tiredness. No such luck.

bubba louie said:

pepe said:

i looked him up. good use of veges but no attempt to reduce fat from what i could see.
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he doesn’t mind some ghee, I’ll grant you that.
———————-
probably the most important thing when turning vego is to include some protein in every meal… this isn’t difficult with cheese, eggs and nuts but is a real prob for lacto vegetarians (no milk products or eggs).
if you just cut out the meat and don’t find suitable substitutes it can be very bad for health.

(no milk products or eggs)= Lacto Ovo Vegetarians.

They also have to take suppliments for one of the Vit B’s. Can’t remember which.

Sorry we both completely stuffed that up.

Lacto vegetarians also eat dairy, Lacto Ovo eat dairy and eggs. The ones who eat no animal products are vegans.

CollieWA said:

I buy stuff when I remember!

B12 is in modest amounts in mushies too I think..

Computer says NO

just out of interest and don’t reply if you don’t wish to disclose, how much per person per month do you (that is forum members, not just pepe!) spend on food and general groceries?
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difficult to know. it would probably vary week to week, season to season – say – between $100 and $200. that probably tripled over the xmas period.

Lacto vegetarians also eat dairy, Lacto Ovo eat dairy and eggs.
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lactos = NO dairy, ovos = NO eggs. this is getting complicated.
brewers yeast and cheese give you B12.

pepe said:

just out of interest and don’t reply if you don’t wish to disclose, how much per person per month do you (that is forum members, not just pepe!) spend on food and general groceries?
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difficult to know. it would probably vary week to week, season to season – say – between $100 and $200. that probably tripled over the xmas period.

$100-200 per person, per month?

I have been budgeting of late. In fact, I’m a pretty good budgeter, and I know exactly how much money I have and how much I spend. It was the only way I could get a decent house deposit together and now, I am on the cusp of buying my first home and along with it will come a teeny tiny easy to pay mortgage.

so per person per month, our household spends $350. Our plan once our vegie gardens are in full swing would be maybe cut that by a third to a half. When we shop, we spend 20 minutes in the meat and veg bit, 15 minutes in the canned toms, spices and asian sauces bit, 3 minutes in the toiletries and 1 minute in the freezer (we only buy frozen peas) and 1 minute in the soft drink/garbage food aisle buying tonic water.

As a comparison, back in SA, we would budget around $160 to $180 per person per month, but that was some time ago and Townsville is a bit exxy. And we are lazy shoppers, our nearest stupidmarket is brand new and in a high income area of town so their prices are up there. Our new home and area may be a bit more competitive.

pepe said:

Lacto vegetarians also eat dairy, Lacto Ovo eat dairy and eggs.
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lactos = NO dairy, ovos = NO eggs. this is getting complicated.
brewers yeast and cheese give you B12.

I think if you check it’s the opposite.

bubba louie said:

pepe said:

Lacto vegetarians also eat dairy, Lacto Ovo eat dairy and eggs.
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lactos = NO dairy, ovos = NO eggs. this is getting complicated.
brewers yeast and cheese give you B12.

I think if you check it’s the opposite.

http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/bhcv2/bhcarticles.nsf/pages/Vegetarian_eating

bubba louie said:

bubba louie said:

pepe said:

Lacto vegetarians also eat dairy, Lacto Ovo eat dairy and eggs.
—————————————
lactos = NO dairy, ovos = NO eggs. this is getting complicated.
brewers yeast and cheese give you B12.

I think if you check it’s the opposite.

http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/bhcv2/bhcarticles.nsf/pages/Vegetarian_eating

Need more convincing? LOL

http://www.angelfire.com/stars3/larika0/index2.html

bluegreen said:

pepe said:

just out of interest and don’t reply if you don’t wish to disclose, how much per person per month do you (that is forum members, not just pepe!) spend on food and general groceries?
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difficult to know. it would probably vary week to week, season to season – say – between $100 and $200. that probably tripled over the xmas period.

$100-200 per person, per month?

no – for the two of us per week.
so $200 – 400 pppm.

bubba louie said:

bubba louie said:

bubba louie said:

I think if you check it’s the opposite.

http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/bhcv2/bhcarticles.nsf/pages/Vegetarian_eating

Need more convincing? LOL
http://www.angelfire.com/stars3/larika0/index2.html

geez – now to unlearn a lifetime of misused terminology.
ok – thanks bubba

pepe said:

bluegreen said:

$100-200 per person, per month?

no – for the two of us per week.
so $200 – 400 pppm.

per week or per month?

bluegreen said:

pepe said:

It’s no wonder there’s so many over weight people, it cost more to buy ingredients than to just pick up a Sara Lee one from the freezer section.

just out of interest and don’t reply if you don’t wish to disclose, how much per person per month do you (that is forum members, not just pepe!) spend on food and general groceries?

We are about the same as Bon. Around $80 to $100 per week. Troble is we only shop once a week or there abouts, but it’s never on the same day every week.

bluegreen said:

pepe said:

bluegreen said:

$100-200 per person, per month?

no – for the two of us per week.
so $200 – 400 pppm.

per week or per month?

per person per month approx. soda water but no coke. probably only $60 per month on meat for me and a similar amount for the ms’s shampoos and similar again for dog meat. we eat mainly vego and mainly from the garden. i spend more for manure and mulch on the garden – say $60 p.m. records are very sketchy tho’.

pomolo said:

We are about the same as Bon. Around $80 to $100 per week. Troble is we only shop once a week or there abouts, but it’s never on the same day every week.

I have just been informed by Mr Bon that ours is now about $150 a week. So that’s.. $300 per person per month.

Doesn’t include dog food, and pretty well the only non-food item included is toilet paper. We don’t buy much packaged stuff but we do buy the odd organic type thing.. so maybe that balances out.

>The ones who eat no animal products are vegans.

Vegans also won’t wear leather or other animal products I believe.

>lactos = NO dairy, ovos = NO eggs. this is getting complicated.

I think it is the opposite.

Vegetarians are just that.

Lacto-ovo vegetarians also have eggs/dairy. That’s what I am.

ok – on best estimates ms p and i spend $360 each per month.

bluegreen said:

pepe said:

It’s no wonder there’s so many over weight people, it cost more to buy ingredients than to just pick up a Sara Lee one from the freezer section.

just out of interest and don’t reply if you don’t wish to disclose, how much per person per month do you (that is forum members, not just pepe!) spend on food and general groceries?

Oh, that’s a really tough one to pin down. Mine’s been all over the place lately with changing housemates, solo cooking in between housemates, not to mention the fact that I have two dogs and two cats whose food (and kitty litter) I include in my shop.
I’d guesstimate around the $100 mark per week including the animals and general groceries so $400 per month, give or take.

bubba louie said:

bluegreen said:

pepe said:

It’s no wonder there’s so many over weight people, it cost more to buy ingredients than to just pick up a Sara Lee one from the freezer section.

just out of interest and don’t reply if you don’t wish to disclose, how much per person per month do you (that is forum members, not just pepe!) spend on food and general groceries?

I’m really not sure. I do so many small shops during a week that I lose track.

I’ve been doing that too. When the ex was around, we did a single weekly shop and I could have told you exactly how much we spent. I had meals planned out for the week and nothing was forgotten, very organised. It’s hard to be organised when housemates don’t plan meals the way I’m used to doing. That sentence sounds off but I’m not sure why?

bubba louie said:

bubba louie said:

pepe said:

i looked him up. good use of veges but no attempt to reduce fat from what i could see.
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he doesn’t mind some ghee, I’ll grant you that.
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probably the most important thing when turning vego is to include some protein in every meal… this isn’t difficult with cheese, eggs and nuts but is a real prob for lacto vegetarians (no milk products or eggs).
if you just cut out the meat and don’t find suitable substitutes it can be very bad for health.

(no milk products or eggs)= Lacto Ovo Vegetarians.

They also have to take suppliments for one of the Vit B’s. Can’t remember which.

Sorry we both completely stuffed that up.

Lacto vegetarians also eat dairy, Lacto Ovo eat dairy and eggs. The ones who eat no animal products are vegans.

Ex was a Lacto Ovo fish vegetarian so for seven years I pretty much was too (I say pretty much because every few months when we went out to dinner I’d have a Fillet Mignon, LOL!). The diet suited me – I donated blood and my iron levels were normal. I just don’t seem to need meat. We did eat lots of nuts, legumes, dairy and mushrooms so had a well balanced and healthy diet.

pepe said:

Lacto vegetarians also eat dairy, Lacto Ovo eat dairy and eggs.
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lactos = NO dairy, ovos = NO eggs. this is getting complicated.
brewers yeast and cheese give you B12.

Oh dear, in that case, ex and I ate vegetables, dairy, eggs and occasionally fish, whatever that is.

cost of groceries in PNG was different though, because it wasn’t uncommon for a cheese drought to hit the shelves, one would often stock up when a particular item became available, so that when one saw arborio rice available (and it was in little cotton bags with Italian writing on it, they looked like 1kg bean bags and there was nothing to say that they were arborio or even rice on the labelling. But we have a great Italian cookbook which has a picture of these little bean bags and GF said to me “That’s arborio rice”) we bought the entire stock only for our friends to be shocked when we made the best risotto in town.

so grocery shopping fluctuated and we would spend around AUD $400 to $700 per person per month depending on the exchange rate.

hortfurball said:

bon008 said:

pepe said:

look up the ‘cook and chef’ recipe – that’s the one i use – modified to suit myself.

Ooh, cool – Mr Bon loves that show. Might motivate him to make it… :D

Or just do what I do…make it up as you go along and throw in whatever you have on the day. My meals are rarely exactly the same twice and except for baking or trying a new recipe, I never measure quantities – the only thing is, if it turns out to be extra nice, you have to write it all down because three weeks later, you can’t remember what you did that made it so good.

That’s my problem…I’ll cook something and then the family will “could you do that again” and I say probably not! LOL

TA DA

Very tasty it was too.

bluegreen said:

just out of interest and don’t reply if you don’t wish to disclose, how much per person per month do you (that is forum members, not just pepe!) spend on food and general groceries?

It’s a bit hard to judge cause we are fairly irregular with our shopping trips. Sometimes it’s a fortnight other times 3 weeks
between trips, and we buy the bulk from Aldi and the rest from Woolies, but I’m guessing about $100 per week.