Date: 12/03/2020 22:04:04
From: Rule 303
ID: 1514306
Subject: Hand sanitising

There’s a run on all forms of commercial hand sanitiser – Especially the Ethynol-based stuff, which is widely regarded as the best for speed of kill and evaporation.

Knowing that the basic ingredients (denatured ethynol, isopropal ethynol, and such) are widely and cheaply available, is there any reason we can’t create a Holiday Forum special blend?

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Date: 12/03/2020 22:06:54
From: Woodie
ID: 1514307
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Rule 303 said:


There’s a run on all forms of commercial hand sanitiser – Especially the Ethynol-based stuff, which is widely regarded as the best for speed of kill and evaporation.

Knowing that the basic ingredients (denatured ethynol, isopropal ethynol, and such) are widely and cheaply available, is there any reason we can’t create a Holiday Forum special blend?

I’ve got a 5 litre bottle of ispropyl alcohol in the garage. Unopened. Got it off Ebay.

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Date: 12/03/2020 22:07:15
From: Michael V
ID: 1514308
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Rule 303 said:


There’s a run on all forms of commercial hand sanitiser – Especially the Ethynol-based stuff, which is widely regarded as the best for speed of kill and evaporation.

Knowing that the basic ingredients (denatured ethynol, isopropal ethynol, and such) are widely and cheaply available, is there any reason we can’t create a Holiday Forum special blend?

Well, no. I expect metho will work, but the reality is that it stinks and dries the skin out. I’ll use metho if nothing else is available.

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Date: 12/03/2020 22:07:51
From: Michael V
ID: 1514309
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Woodie said:


Rule 303 said:

There’s a run on all forms of commercial hand sanitiser – Especially the Ethynol-based stuff, which is widely regarded as the best for speed of kill and evaporation.

Knowing that the basic ingredients (denatured ethynol, isopropal ethynol, and such) are widely and cheaply available, is there any reason we can’t create a Holiday Forum special blend?

I’ve got a 5 litre bottle of ispropyl alcohol in the garage. Unopened. Got it off Ebay.

You’re covered then.

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Date: 12/03/2020 22:09:02
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1514310
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

I cant think of one but surly there must be one.

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Date: 12/03/2020 22:09:09
From: AwesomeO
ID: 1514311
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Michael V said:


Woodie said:

Rule 303 said:

There’s a run on all forms of commercial hand sanitiser – Especially the Ethynol-based stuff, which is widely regarded as the best for speed of kill and evaporation.

Knowing that the basic ingredients (denatured ethynol, isopropal ethynol, and such) are widely and cheaply available, is there any reason we can’t create a Holiday Forum special blend?

I’ve got a 5 litre bottle of ispropyl alcohol in the garage. Unopened. Got it off Ebay.

You’re covered then.

I’ve got heaps of the stuff from hospital in the home, so I am right. Actually shouldn’t say that, sounds too close to encouraging black jelly beans.

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Date: 12/03/2020 22:11:33
From: Rule 303
ID: 1514313
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Anyone want to speculate on what the thickening agent is?

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Date: 12/03/2020 22:11:43
From: AwesomeO
ID: 1514314
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Peak Warming Man said:


I cant think of one but surly there must be one.

Apathy surely.

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Date: 12/03/2020 22:13:25
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1514316
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Rule 303 said:


Anyone want to speculate on what the thickening agent is?

aloe vera. flour. gelatin.

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Date: 12/03/2020 22:14:36
From: Woodie
ID: 1514317
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Nothing wrong with soap and water actually.

Alcohol-based disinfectants are also effective, but soap is a highly efficient way of killing the virus when it’s on your skin

Everyone here will believe it coz The Guardian says so.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/12/science-soap-kills-coronavirus-alcohol-based-disinfectants

I call conspiracy by them overpriced hand sanitizer squeezy bottle full manufacturers rip off merchant big money making corporations that all they care a bout is making money.

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Date: 12/03/2020 22:16:21
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1514319
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Woodie said:


Nothing wrong with soap and water actually.

Alcohol-based disinfectants are also effective, but soap is a highly efficient way of killing the virus when it’s on your skin

Everyone here will believe it coz The Guardian says so.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/12/science-soap-kills-coronavirus-alcohol-based-disinfectants

I call conspiracy by them overpriced hand sanitizer squeezy bottle full manufacturers rip off merchant big money making corporations that all they care a bout is making money.

we should definately get in on the act then.

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Date: 12/03/2020 22:16:59
From: ruby
ID: 1514321
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Rule 303 said:


Anyone want to speculate on what the thickening agent is?

Agar? I have a couple of kilos of it. Might try adding some to metho now.

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Date: 12/03/2020 22:18:03
From: Woodie
ID: 1514322
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Woodie said:

I call conspiracy by them overpriced hand sanitizer squeezy bottle full manufacturers rip off merchant big money making corporations that all they care a bout is making money that pay not tax and rip off employee wages and cut their penalty rates.

/fixed

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Date: 12/03/2020 22:18:32
From: Rule 303
ID: 1514323
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Woodie said:


Nothing wrong with soap and water actually.

Alcohol-based disinfectants are also effective, but soap is a highly efficient way of killing the virus when it’s on your skin

Everyone here will believe it coz The Guardian says so.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/12/science-soap-kills-coronavirus-alcohol-based-disinfectants

I call conspiracy by them overpriced hand sanitizer squeezy bottle full manufacturers rip off merchant big money making corporations that all they care a bout is making money.

The problem with soap and water is the need to provide soap and water and washing & drying facilities, which is rarely possible at the coal face.

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Date: 12/03/2020 22:18:58
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1514325
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

ruby said:


Rule 303 said:

Anyone want to speculate on what the thickening agent is?

Agar? I have a couple of kilos of it. Might try adding some to metho now.

It’s orrable

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Date: 12/03/2020 22:21:20
From: Woodie
ID: 1514328
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Peak Warming Man said:


ruby said:

Rule 303 said:

Anyone want to speculate on what the thickening agent is?

Agar? I have a couple of kilos of it. Might try adding some to metho now.

It’s orrable

ha ha ha. Agar the ‘orrable.

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Date: 12/03/2020 22:25:17
From: ruby
ID: 1514332
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Woodie said:


Peak Warming Man said:

ruby said:

Agar? I have a couple of kilos of it. Might try adding some to metho now.

It’s orrable

ha ha ha. Agar the ‘orrable.

C’mon lads, be serious. People have germ ridden hands and you lot want make jokes…

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Date: 12/03/2020 22:28:38
From: Michael V
ID: 1514334
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Rule 303 said:


Anyone want to speculate on what the thickening agent is?

I have no real idea. Often an aloe vera extract is added. The could possibly be a thickener.

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Date: 12/03/2020 22:31:02
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1514335
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Michael V said:


Rule 303 said:

Anyone want to speculate on what the thickening agent is?

I have no real idea. Often an aloe vera extract is added. The could possibly be a thickener.

According to the wikipedia article on hand sanitizers, polyacrylic acid and polyethelyne glycol are commonly used thickeners. You could try any hydrophilic polymer if those aren’t available. Cornstarch might even work if you dissolved it in the alcohol before adding the other ingredients.

google.

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Date: 12/03/2020 22:32:03
From: Michael V
ID: 1514337
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Rule 303 said:


Woodie said:

Nothing wrong with soap and water actually.

Alcohol-based disinfectants are also effective, but soap is a highly efficient way of killing the virus when it’s on your skin

Everyone here will believe it coz The Guardian says so.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/12/science-soap-kills-coronavirus-alcohol-based-disinfectants

I call conspiracy by them overpriced hand sanitizer squeezy bottle full manufacturers rip off merchant big money making corporations that all they care a bout is making money.

The problem with soap and water is the need to provide soap and water and washing & drying facilities, which is rarely possible at the coal face.

But it’s certainly possible at home. Particularly for those of us that have chosen self-isolation.

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Date: 12/03/2020 22:32:21
From: Michael V
ID: 1514338
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Woodie said:


Peak Warming Man said:

ruby said:

Agar? I have a couple of kilos of it. Might try adding some to metho now.

It’s orrable

ha ha ha. Agar the ‘orrable.

LOL

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Date: 12/03/2020 22:33:33
From: Rule 303
ID: 1514340
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

sarahs mum said:


Michael V said:

Rule 303 said:

Anyone want to speculate on what the thickening agent is?

I have no real idea. Often an aloe vera extract is added. The could possibly be a thickener.

According to the wikipedia article on hand sanitizers, polyacrylic acid and polyethelyne glycol are commonly used thickeners. You could try any hydrophilic polymer if those aren’t available. Cornstarch might even work if you dissolved it in the alcohol before adding the other ingredients.

google.

Polyacrylate – That’s the chemical from disposable nappies.

:-)

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Date: 12/03/2020 22:35:19
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 1514344
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Rule 303 said:


sarahs mum said:

Michael V said:

I have no real idea. Often an aloe vera extract is added. The could possibly be a thickener.

According to the wikipedia article on hand sanitizers, polyacrylic acid and polyethelyne glycol are commonly used thickeners. You could try any hydrophilic polymer if those aren’t available. Cornstarch might even work if you dissolved it in the alcohol before adding the other ingredients.

google.

Polyacrylate – That’s the chemical from disposable nappies.

:-)

hope they wash it first.

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Date: 12/03/2020 22:37:25
From: Rule 303
ID: 1514347
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Michael V said:


Rule 303 said:

Woodie said:

Nothing wrong with soap and water actually.

Alcohol-based disinfectants are also effective, but soap is a highly efficient way of killing the virus when it’s on your skin

Everyone here will believe it coz The Guardian says so.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/12/science-soap-kills-coronavirus-alcohol-based-disinfectants

I call conspiracy by them overpriced hand sanitizer squeezy bottle full manufacturers rip off merchant big money making corporations that all they care a bout is making money.

The problem with soap and water is the need to provide soap and water and washing & drying facilities, which is rarely possible at the coal face.

But it’s certainly possible at home. Particularly for those of us that have chosen self-isolation.

And it’s gotta be said that hands need to be cleaned before the sanitiser is applied.

I think the hand sanitiser is most likely to be valuable for people with reasonably clean hands: after blowing the nose, before eating, after touching potentially infected surfaces, and so on.

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Date: 12/03/2020 22:38:29
From: roughbarked
ID: 1514348
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Rule 303 said:


There’s a run on all forms of commercial hand sanitiser – Especially the Ethynol-based stuff, which is widely regarded as the best for speed of kill and evaporation.

Knowing that the basic ingredients (denatured ethynol, isopropal ethynol, and such) are widely and cheaply available, is there any reason we can’t create a Holiday Forum special blend?

I don’t care. I was simply happy thta they took the tooilet paper rather than the soap.

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Date: 12/03/2020 22:40:41
From: roughbarked
ID: 1514352
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

ruby said:


Woodie said:

Peak Warming Man said:

It’s orrable

ha ha ha. Agar the ‘orrable.

C’mon lads, be serious. People have germ ridden hands and you lot want make jokes…

I am always scrubbing at the dirt under my fingernails often to no seming effective result.

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Date: 12/03/2020 23:14:50
From: Rule 303
ID: 1514370
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Looks like Agar falls out of solution.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JrevHbZyD8

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Date: 12/03/2020 23:16:05
From: roughbarked
ID: 1514372
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Rule 303 said:


Looks like Agar falls out of solution.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JrevHbZyD8

Have never bothered with it.

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Date: 13/03/2020 10:06:54
From: Rule 303
ID: 1514512
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Current plan:

Mix 70% denatured Ethanol, 25% Glycerine, 1% Eucalyptus oil, sodium polyacrylate (don’t know how much yet) to thicken.

This mixture is intended for use when soap and water are not available, so fill small pump bottles that fit in car cup holders.

If you have anything to add or subtract from that, feel free…

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Date: 13/03/2020 10:16:07
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1514521
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Rule 303 said:


Current plan:

Mix 70% denatured Ethanol, 25% Glycerine, 1% Eucalyptus oil, sodium polyacrylate (don’t know how much yet) to thicken.

This mixture is intended for use when soap and water are not available, so fill small pump bottles that fit in car cup holders.

If you have anything to add or subtract from that, feel free…

Aloe Vera is a popular ingredient. Apart from feeling nice, I guess it also thickens the goo?

Also, does tea tree oil do the same thing as eucalyptus oil?

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Date: 13/03/2020 10:19:08
From: Rule 303
ID: 1514525
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Divine Angel said:


Rule 303 said:

Current plan:

Mix 70% denatured Ethanol, 25% Glycerine, 1% Eucalyptus oil, sodium polyacrylate (don’t know how much yet) to thicken.

This mixture is intended for use when soap and water are not available, so fill small pump bottles that fit in car cup holders.

If you have anything to add or subtract from that, feel free…

Aloe Vera is a popular ingredient. Apart from feeling nice, I guess it also thickens the goo?

Also, does tea tree oil do the same thing as eucalyptus oil?

Aloe and Glycerine are added to stop the alcohol from drying the skin excessively.

Ti Tree and Eucalyptus and a bunch of other things are used to improve the smell.

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Date: 13/03/2020 12:49:22
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1514624
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Rule 303 said:


Current plan:

Mix 70% denatured Ethanol, 25% Glycerine, 1% Eucalyptus oil, sodium polyacrylate (don’t know how much yet) to thicken.

This mixture is intended for use when soap and water are not available, so fill small pump bottles that fit in car cup holders.

If you have anything to add or subtract from that, feel free…

tea tree oil kills shit.

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Date: 13/03/2020 17:22:52
From: Rule 303
ID: 1514845
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

This experiment is going well It’s all playing happily in the jar and will obviously work, but I haven’t managed to get it to thicken yet. So far I’ve tried Polyacrylate and corn flour, and they both just fall out of solution.

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Date: 13/03/2020 17:26:53
From: The-Spectator
ID: 1514846
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Bought a 100,000 pump packs of hand sanitiser for $2 each, sold nearly all of them for $20 each, sweet

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Date: 13/03/2020 17:27:27
From: buffy
ID: 1514847
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Rule 303 said:


This experiment is going well It’s all playing happily in the jar and will obviously work, but I haven’t managed to get it to thicken yet. So far I’ve tried Polyacrylate and corn flour, and they both just fall out of solution.

I use arrowroot (tapioca flour) to thicken sauces that I want clear (sweet and sour for example), where cornflour gives an opaque sauce. But any of those things need to be heated to thicken really.

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Date: 13/03/2020 17:39:55
From: Rule 303
ID: 1514849
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

buffy said:


Rule 303 said:

This experiment is going well It’s all playing happily in the jar and will obviously work, but I haven’t managed to get it to thicken yet. So far I’ve tried Polyacrylate and corn flour, and they both just fall out of solution.

I use arrowroot (tapioca flour) to thicken sauces that I want clear (sweet and sour for example), where cornflour gives an opaque sauce. But any of those things need to be heated to thicken really.

That’s a good tip, thank you.

25% Glycerol is obviously too much (leaves the hands greasy and takes too long to dry) so I’ll try a 10% solution and make up the rest with tapioca flour & water.

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Date: 13/03/2020 17:54:21
From: buffy
ID: 1514856
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Rule 303 said:


buffy said:

Rule 303 said:

This experiment is going well It’s all playing happily in the jar and will obviously work, but I haven’t managed to get it to thicken yet. So far I’ve tried Polyacrylate and corn flour, and they both just fall out of solution.

I use arrowroot (tapioca flour) to thicken sauces that I want clear (sweet and sour for example), where cornflour gives an opaque sauce. But any of those things need to be heated to thicken really.

That’s a good tip, thank you.

25% Glycerol is obviously too much (leaves the hands greasy and takes too long to dry) so I’ll try a 10% solution and make up the rest with tapioca flour & water.

Just had a thought. If you make up the tapioca flour and water, heat, boil to thickened, cool and then mix in…would that work? Also thought perhaps you could set some gelatine and then mix in what you want, but I think that might go runny again when you mix. Of course, the thickened water might do that too…

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Date: 13/03/2020 18:03:33
From: Rule 303
ID: 1514865
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

buffy said:


Rule 303 said:

buffy said:

I use arrowroot (tapioca flour) to thicken sauces that I want clear (sweet and sour for example), where cornflour gives an opaque sauce. But any of those things need to be heated to thicken really.

That’s a good tip, thank you.

25% Glycerol is obviously too much (leaves the hands greasy and takes too long to dry) so I’ll try a 10% solution and make up the rest with tapioca flour & water.

Just had a thought. If you make up the tapioca flour and water, heat, boil to thickened, cool and then mix in…would that work? Also thought perhaps you could set some gelatine and then mix in what you want, but I think that might go runny again when you mix. Of course, the thickened water might do that too…

I think the Ethanol would just burn the proteins of the gelatin. Otherwise yep, that’s what I was intending. Heat water and flour, let thicken, blend. I’m only working with tiny quantities at this stage, so can try a broad range of methods.

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Date: 13/03/2020 18:08:15
From: poikilotherm
ID: 1514871
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

‘Aloe Vera after sun gel’ with added ethanol would work quite well imo. Might try it on Monday.

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Date: 13/03/2020 18:14:17
From: Arts
ID: 1514878
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Rule 303 said:


buffy said:

Rule 303 said:

That’s a good tip, thank you.

25% Glycerol is obviously too much (leaves the hands greasy and takes too long to dry) so I’ll try a 10% solution and make up the rest with tapioca flour & water.

Just had a thought. If you make up the tapioca flour and water, heat, boil to thickened, cool and then mix in…would that work? Also thought perhaps you could set some gelatine and then mix in what you want, but I think that might go runny again when you mix. Of course, the thickened water might do that too…

I think the Ethanol would just burn the proteins of the gelatin. Otherwise yep, that’s what I was intending. Heat water and flour, let thicken, blend. I’m only working with tiny quantities at this stage, so can try a broad range of methods.

are you going into business? can I take out some shares?

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Date: 13/03/2020 18:23:24
From: Rule 303
ID: 1514887
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Arts said:


Rule 303 said:

buffy said:

Just had a thought. If you make up the tapioca flour and water, heat, boil to thickened, cool and then mix in…would that work? Also thought perhaps you could set some gelatine and then mix in what you want, but I think that might go runny again when you mix. Of course, the thickened water might do that too…

I think the Ethanol would just burn the proteins of the gelatin. Otherwise yep, that’s what I was intending. Heat water and flour, let thicken, blend. I’m only working with tiny quantities at this stage, so can try a broad range of methods.

are you going into business? can I take out some shares?

No. Sure.

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Date: 13/03/2020 18:26:07
From: Rule 303
ID: 1514891
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

poikilotherm said:


‘Aloe Vera after sun gel’ with added ethanol would work quite well imo. Might try it on Monday.

Need to get the balance right so it’s in range at 60-70%EtOH, dries fast enough to be useful, but doesn’t build up or excessively dry the skin.

10% Glycerol seems good.

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Date: 13/03/2020 18:30:01
From: Arts
ID: 1514894
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Rule 303 said:


Arts said:

Rule 303 said:

I think the Ethanol would just burn the proteins of the gelatin. Otherwise yep, that’s what I was intending. Heat water and flour, let thicken, blend. I’m only working with tiny quantities at this stage, so can try a broad range of methods.

are you going into business? can I take out some shares?

No. Sure.

sooooo.. I’m taking out shares in nothing.. easy.. I’ll take a million

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Date: 13/03/2020 18:35:51
From: Rule 303
ID: 1514897
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Arts said:


Rule 303 said:

Arts said:

are you going into business? can I take out some shares?

No. Sure.

sooooo.. I’m taking out shares in nothing.. easy.. I’ll take a million

(voice=Monty Burns)Excellent(/voice)

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Date: 13/03/2020 18:39:23
From: Cymek
ID: 1514898
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

I wonder if they’ll employ toilet guys to check you wash your hands properly and you pay them a pound to not go to the toilet

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Date: 13/03/2020 18:40:54
From: furious
ID: 1514899
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Cymek said:


I wonder if they’ll employ toilet guys to check you wash your hands properly and you pay them a pound to not go to the toilet

I’ll just go to the disabled…

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Date: 13/03/2020 18:42:37
From: Cymek
ID: 1514900
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

furious said:


Cymek said:

I wonder if they’ll employ toilet guys to check you wash your hands properly and you pay them a pound to not go to the toilet

I’ll just go to the disabled…

Or the staff toilet

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Date: 13/03/2020 18:49:32
From: Ian
ID: 1514902
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

How good is the old lysol as an antiseptic agent?

Lysol is a brand name of cleaning and disinfecting products distributed by the Reckitt Benckiser company. The line includes liquid solutions for hard and soft surfaces, air treatment, and hand washing. The active ingredient in many Lysol products is benzalkonium chloride, but the active ingredient in the Lysol “Power and Free” line is hydrogen peroxide.

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Date: 13/03/2020 18:51:05
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1514903
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Has anyone said wire brush and dettol yet?

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Date: 13/03/2020 18:54:11
From: Arts
ID: 1514904
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

furious said:


Cymek said:

I wonder if they’ll employ toilet guys to check you wash your hands properly and you pay them a pound to not go to the toilet

I’ll just go to the disabled…

bastard

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Date: 13/03/2020 18:55:16
From: Ian
ID: 1514905
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Grandma’s Lye Soap

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Date: 13/03/2020 19:01:38
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1514908
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Ian said:


How good is the old lysol as an antiseptic agent?

Lysol is a brand name of cleaning and disinfecting products distributed by the Reckitt Benckiser company. The line includes liquid solutions for hard and soft surfaces, air treatment, and hand washing. The active ingredient in many Lysol products is benzalkonium chloride, but the active ingredient in the Lysol “Power and Free” line is hydrogen peroxide.

I’ve only heard of Lysol in American novels/television. Didn’t know it was available here.

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Date: 13/03/2020 21:48:35
From: Rule 303
ID: 1514992
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Batch 3:

200 EToH
10 Glyc
2 Euca
60 water & tapioca flour.
3 drops food dye

Heated mixture in a double boiler for 10 min @90°C, whisked frequently. Allowed to cool.

Notes. Flour suspended, no sign of falling out of solution. Opaque. No sign of thickening. Slight flour residue on skin after drying.

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Date: 13/03/2020 21:55:13
From: Rule 303
ID: 1514998
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

OK, now the flour is falling out of solution.

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Date: 13/03/2020 21:58:15
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1514999
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Rule 303 said:


OK, now the flour is falling out of solution.

How about:

Chlorine bleach 5%

Water 95 %

In a little spray bottle.

?

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Date: 13/03/2020 22:00:48
From: Rule 303
ID: 1515003
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

captain_spalding said:


Rule 303 said:

OK, now the flour is falling out of solution.

How about:

Chlorine bleach 5%

Water 95 %

In a little spray bottle.

?

Not for hands. Doesn’t evaporate quickly, dries & burns the skin, unstable in sunlight.

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Date: 13/03/2020 22:04:40
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1515008
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Rule 303 said:


captain_spalding said:

Rule 303 said:

OK, now the flour is falling out of solution.

How about:

Chlorine bleach 5%

Water 95 %

In a little spray bottle.

?

Not for hands. Doesn’t evaporate quickly, dries & burns the skin, unstable in sunlight.

Well, you (a) don’t leave it out in the light, and (b) either rinse your hands, or at least wipe them dry afterwards.

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Date: 13/03/2020 22:06:35
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1515010
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

captain_spalding said:


Rule 303 said:

captain_spalding said:

How about:

Chlorine bleach 5%

Water 95 %

In a little spray bottle.

?

Not for hands. Doesn’t evaporate quickly, dries & burns the skin, unstable in sunlight.

Well, you (a) don’t leave it out in the light, and (b) either rinse your hands, or at least wipe them dry afterwards.

Also fucks the clothes you are wearing if oversprayed.

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Date: 13/03/2020 22:08:48
From: Rule 303
ID: 1515013
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

captain_spalding said:


Rule 303 said:

captain_spalding said:

How about:

Chlorine bleach 5%

Water 95 %

In a little spray bottle.

?

Not for hands. Doesn’t evaporate quickly, dries & burns the skin, unstable in sunlight.

Well, you (a) don’t leave it out in the light, and (b) either rinse your hands, or at least wipe them dry afterwards.

Yeah, hmmm… It’s good for surfaces.

It’s also strongly alkaline. Like 14 strong.

EtOH is the go.

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Date: 13/03/2020 22:08:50
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1515014
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

sarahs mum said:


captain_spalding said:

Rule 303 said:

Not for hands. Doesn’t evaporate quickly, dries & burns the skin, unstable in sunlight.

Well, you (a) don’t leave it out in the light, and (b) either rinse your hands, or at least wipe them dry afterwards.

Also fucks the clothes you are wearing if oversprayed.

Damaged shirt or certain, horrible, slow, miserable death?

Your choice?

(Like the note of drama there?)

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Date: 14/03/2020 10:25:34
From: pesce.del.giorno
ID: 1515262
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Household chemical guru Shannon Lush gives instructions on making your own sanitiser here:

https://www.6pr.com.au/diy-hand-sanitiser-shannon-lush/

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Date: 14/03/2020 10:33:00
From: dv
ID: 1515265
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

pesce.del.giorno said:


Household chemical guru Shannon Lush gives instructions on making your own sanitiser here:

https://www.6pr.com.au/diy-hand-sanitiser-shannon-lush/

well that is good

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Date: 14/03/2020 10:52:59
From: Rule 303
ID: 1515275
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

dv said:


pesce.del.giorno said:

Household chemical guru Shannon Lush gives instructions on making your own sanitiser here:

https://www.6pr.com.au/diy-hand-sanitiser-shannon-lush/

well that is good

Probably needs to be applied from a spray bottle, because it’s too thin to pour.

It’s a lot easier to manage as a thicker solution (from a pump or nozzle) and probably a lot safer – Don’t forget it’s highly flammable.

So far I’ve tried corn flour, tapioca flour, sodium polyacrylate and gelatin, and it all just falls straight out of solution.

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Date: 14/03/2020 11:39:43
From: Woodie
ID: 1515282
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Rule 303 said:


dv said:

pesce.del.giorno said:

Household chemical guru Shannon Lush gives instructions on making your own sanitiser here:

https://www.6pr.com.au/diy-hand-sanitiser-shannon-lush/

well that is good

Probably needs to be applied from a spray bottle, because it’s too thin to pour.

It’s a lot easier to manage as a thicker solution (from a pump or nozzle) and probably a lot safer – Don’t forget it’s highly flammable.

So far I’ve tried corn flour, tapioca flour, sodium polyacrylate and gelatin, and it all just falls straight out of solution.

Where it says “1 cup of alcohol”, I don’t think they are referring to gin.

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Date: 14/03/2020 11:45:22
From: dv
ID: 1515287
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Woodie said:


Rule 303 said:

dv said:

well that is good

Probably needs to be applied from a spray bottle, because it’s too thin to pour.

It’s a lot easier to manage as a thicker solution (from a pump or nozzle) and probably a lot safer – Don’t forget it’s highly flammable.

So far I’ve tried corn flour, tapioca flour, sodium polyacrylate and gelatin, and it all just falls straight out of solution.

Where it says “1 cup of alcohol”, I don’t think they are referring to gin.

It doesn’t say not gin…

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Date: 14/03/2020 11:57:02
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1515295
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Woodie said:


Rule 303 said:

dv said:

well that is good

Probably needs to be applied from a spray bottle, because it’s too thin to pour.

It’s a lot easier to manage as a thicker solution (from a pump or nozzle) and probably a lot safer – Don’t forget it’s highly flammable.

So far I’ve tried corn flour, tapioca flour, sodium polyacrylate and gelatin, and it all just falls straight out of solution.

Where it says “1 cup of alcohol”, I don’t think they are referring to gin.

It means that in my book.

You have to have refreshments along the way.

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Date: 14/03/2020 13:29:11
From: Rule 303
ID: 1515359
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Batch 4:

100ml EtOH (methylated spirits)
8ml Glycerol
2ml Eucalyptus oil
3 drops food dye of your choice

Perfect!

1.5-2ml / is about the right amount to cover both hands.

Unless anyone is aware of an effective thickening agent, I’m going with this recipe.

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Date: 14/03/2020 13:41:25
From: Michael V
ID: 1515368
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Rule 303 said:


Batch 4:

100ml EtOH (methylated spirits)
8ml Glycerol
2ml Eucalyptus oil
3 drops food dye of your choice

Perfect!

1.5-2ml / is about the right amount to cover both hands.

Unless anyone is aware of an effective thickening agent, I’m going with this recipe.

Well done.

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Date: 14/03/2020 13:43:09
From: Woodie
ID: 1515369
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Rule 303 said:


Batch 4:

100ml EtOH (methylated spirits)
8ml Glycerol
2ml Eucalyptus oil
3 drops food dye of your choice

Perfect!

1.5-2ml / is about the right amount to cover both hands.

Unless anyone is aware of an effective thickening agent, I’m going with this recipe.

Now….. let me see…… What ingredients do I have under the sink.

1 * 5 litre bottle of isopropyl alcohol.
500 ml bottle of eucalyptus “water soluble solution”
1 kg tub of cleaning bi-carb powder
2 litre bottle of cleaning vinegar
1.25 litre bottle of Domestos
2 * 450g tubs of drano
1 spray can Mr Muscle oven cleaner
50 dishwasher tablets
and a bottle of hair conditioner as a thickener.

What could I make with all that?

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Date: 14/03/2020 13:43:54
From: buffy
ID: 1515370
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Michael V said:


Rule 303 said:

Batch 4:

100ml EtOH (methylated spirits)
8ml Glycerol
2ml Eucalyptus oil
3 drops food dye of your choice

Perfect!

1.5-2ml / is about the right amount to cover both hands.

Unless anyone is aware of an effective thickening agent, I’m going with this recipe.

Well done.

It just occurred to me….you know how soap goes soft and jelly if you soak it in water…could you soak out some soap to add as thickener?

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Date: 14/03/2020 13:46:58
From: dv
ID: 1515375
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Rule 303 said:


Batch 4:

100ml EtOH (methylated spirits)
8ml Glycerol
2ml Eucalyptus oil
3 drops food dye of your choice

Perfect!

1.5-2ml / is about the right amount to cover both hands.

Unless anyone is aware of an effective thickening agent, I’m going with this recipe.

Does the methylated spirits make it smell bad?

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Date: 14/03/2020 13:50:53
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1515380
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

dv said:


Rule 303 said:

Batch 4:

100ml EtOH (methylated spirits)
8ml Glycerol
2ml Eucalyptus oil
3 drops food dye of your choice

Perfect!

1.5-2ml / is about the right amount to cover both hands.

Unless anyone is aware of an effective thickening agent, I’m going with this recipe.

Does the methylated spirits make it smell bad?

I quite like the smell of metho.

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Date: 14/03/2020 13:55:15
From: Tamb
ID: 1515381
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

sarahs mum said:


dv said:

Rule 303 said:

Batch 4:

100ml EtOH (methylated spirits)
8ml Glycerol
2ml Eucalyptus oil
3 drops food dye of your choice

Perfect!

1.5-2ml / is about the right amount to cover both hands.

Unless anyone is aware of an effective thickening agent, I’m going with this recipe.

Does the methylated spirits make it smell bad?

I quite like the smell of metho.


Me too. A “clean” smell. But then, I worked in Labs for years & developed an eclectic sense of smell.

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Date: 14/03/2020 14:00:04
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1515382
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Shellac dissolved in methylated spirits has a pleasant smell.

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Date: 14/03/2020 14:01:12
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1515383
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Chrome gives methylated a squiggly red underline.

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Date: 14/03/2020 14:02:56
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1515384
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Tamb said:


sarahs mum said:

dv said:

Does the methylated spirits make it smell bad?

I quite like the smell of metho.


Me too. A “clean” smell. But then, I worked in Labs for years & developed an eclectic sense of smell.

Due to my childhood allergies I often was bathed with a cap of metho in the bath water. So i probably associate it with being clean. I use it in printmaking when working with shellac.

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Date: 14/03/2020 14:05:16
From: Rule 303
ID: 1515386
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

buffy said:


Michael V said:

Rule 303 said:

Batch 4:

100ml EtOH (methylated spirits)
8ml Glycerol
2ml Eucalyptus oil
3 drops food dye of your choice

Perfect!

1.5-2ml / is about the right amount to cover both hands.

Unless anyone is aware of an effective thickening agent, I’m going with this recipe.

Well done.

It just occurred to me….you know how soap goes soft and jelly if you soak it in water…could you soak out some soap to add as thickener?

That jelly is about the consistency we’re looking for, but soap will add a bunch of stuff we don’t want, make the hands slippery, take forever to dry, and turn the mixture opaque.

The big advantage of alcohol-based hand sanitisers is the very fast, very high, microbial kill rate, low residual, and fast evaporation time. Anything you add to it makes it less effective. The Glycerol is only there to stop the skin drying out with repeated use, the eucalyptus is there to knock down the strong alcohol smell a bit.

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Date: 14/03/2020 14:05:20
From: Tamb
ID: 1515387
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Bubblecar said:


Chrome gives methylated a squiggly red underline.

Bing’s OK with it.

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Date: 14/03/2020 14:06:54
From: Rule 303
ID: 1515389
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

dv said:


Rule 303 said:

Batch 4:

100ml EtOH (methylated spirits)
8ml Glycerol
2ml Eucalyptus oil
3 drops food dye of your choice

Perfect!

1.5-2ml / is about the right amount to cover both hands.

Unless anyone is aware of an effective thickening agent, I’m going with this recipe.

Does the methylated spirits make it smell bad?

It always smells strongly of alcohol – It’s 70%. The Eucalyptus is very effective.

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Date: 14/03/2020 20:11:28
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1515567
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Ethanol with a few drops of tea tree

Don’t use too much tea tree or eucalyptus or you’ll bring your skin up

Use a spray bottle from Bunnings to spray on to your hands.

I’ll probably just start spraying the medical equipment I service with methylated spirit before touching it.

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Date: 15/03/2020 23:26:43
From: OCDC
ID: 1516522
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Back in the old tissue culture days we used 30% water with 70% CSR Ethanol. Moisturise hands at intervals and you’re set.

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Date: 16/03/2020 20:21:31
From: Rule 303
ID: 1517028
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

WHO Guide to Local Production of Handrub Formulations

Recipes, equipment, methods….

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Date: 30/03/2020 13:33:40
From: Michael V
ID: 1527804
Subject: re: Hand sanitising

Rule 303 said:


WHO Guide to Local Production of Handrub Formulations

Recipes, equipment, methods….

I just found this and was about to post the URL. Glad I went to the last post…

:)

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