Date: 19/03/2020 21:14:09
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1519244
Subject: Planes buses trains virises and air

in planes, trains and buses people are breathing fairly much on the same level.

However air moves differently on planes than buses or trains because of pressurization, containment and air conditioning.

Is the air more dangerous on a plane?

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Date: 19/03/2020 21:21:47
From: party_pants
ID: 1519248
Subject: re: Planes buses trains virises and air

Tau.Neutrino said:


in planes, trains and buses people are breathing fairly much on the same level.

However air moves differently on planes than buses or trains because of pressurization, containment and air conditioning.

Is the air more dangerous on a plane?

The air inside an airliner is pressurised. Air is drawn from the rear of the plane and new air introduced to keep it fresh. The air inside the plane is replaced every few minutes, it is not the same air continuously recycled. The problem is that still may people breathe the same air, the people at the back of the plane are breathing in older air.

the bigger problem though is that people are sitting in very close proximity for house on end. Very much closer than normal.

In trains usually each carriage has it’s own aircon system, but the air ducts tend to me more evenly spaced so everyone get fresh air.

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Date: 19/03/2020 21:23:50
From: party_pants
ID: 1519250
Subject: re: Planes buses trains virises and air

party_pants said:

The air inside an airliner is pressurised. Air is drawn from the rear of the plane and new air introduced to keep it fresh. The air inside the plane is replaced every few minutes, it is not the same air continuously recycled. The problem is that still may many people breathe the same air, the people at the back of the plane are breathing older air.

the bigger problem though is that people are sitting in very close proximity for house hours on end. Very much closer than normal.

In trains usually each carriage has it’s own aircon system, but the air ducts tend to me more evenly spaced so everyone get fresh air.

Meh.

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Date: 19/03/2020 23:26:16
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1519326
Subject: re: Planes buses trains virises and air

It’s drier air that’s the problem. They did a study on it. Dry air makes you more susceptible.

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Date: 19/03/2020 23:27:43
From: Arts
ID: 1519327
Subject: re: Planes buses trains virises and air

no air cures everything

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Date: 20/03/2020 18:38:39
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1519870
Subject: re: Planes buses trains virises and air

Tau.Neutrino said:


in planes, trains and buses people are breathing fairly much on the same level.

However air moves differently on planes than buses or trains because of pressurization, containment and air conditioning.

Is the air more dangerous on a plane?

> It’s drier air that’s the problem. They did a study on it. Dry air makes you more susceptible.

Less (in part) because the air is drier the evaporation is faster and the virus dies faster.

But.

On a plane you’re in the same seat for a long time. And spaces between seats is less. Any you’re more uncomfortable and therefore susceptible because of many factors.

Some of the air within a plane is recirculated by the air conditioning system and some is brought in from outside. I don’t think a virus could survive passage through the aircon system so the air coming out of the vents above your head would be virtually virus-free.

Standing on a packed train for a long time is probably the worst of all?

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Date: 21/03/2020 18:00:46
From: gaghalfrunt
ID: 1520631
Subject: re: Planes buses trains virises and air

Solution simple..Dont get on an aircraft full of people.

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Date: 21/03/2020 18:18:14
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1520636
Subject: re: Planes buses trains virises and air

gaghalfrunt said:


Solution simple..Dont get on an aircraft full of people.

I would take a mask.

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Date: 21/03/2020 18:19:32
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1520637
Subject: re: Planes buses trains virises and air

Tau.Neutrino said:


gaghalfrunt said:

Solution simple..Dont get on an aircraft full of people.

I would take a mask.

= I would wear a mask on a plane.

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Date: 21/03/2020 18:31:29
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1520643
Subject: re: Planes buses trains virises and air

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

gaghalfrunt said:

Solution simple..Dont get on an aircraft full of people.

I would take a mask.

= I would wear a mask on a plane.

Air on modern aircraft are so well filtered that they apparently trap all particles including virus.

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Date: 21/03/2020 18:38:30
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1520650
Subject: re: Planes buses trains virises and air

PermeateFree said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

I would take a mask.

= I would wear a mask on a plane.

Air on modern aircraft are so well filtered that they apparently trap all particles including virus.

There are no air filters between passengers.

A cough can travel further than a breath

A sneeze can travel further than a cough

Everyone’s air vapours hang around in the cabin for a while before being replenished

Planes are worse than ships for collecting an airborne virus.

imagine seeing everyone breathing out, coughing, sneezing

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Date: 21/03/2020 18:41:24
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1520652
Subject: re: Planes buses trains virises and air

Tau.Neutrino said:


PermeateFree said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

= I would wear a mask on a plane.

Air on modern aircraft are so well filtered that they apparently trap all particles including virus.

There are no air filters between passengers.

A cough can travel further than a breath

A sneeze can travel further than a cough

Everyone’s air vapours hang around in the cabin for a while before being replenished

Planes are worse than ships for collecting an airborne virus.

imagine seeing everyone breathing out, coughing, sneezing

Well take that up with the Qantas people who broadcast it a couple of days ago.

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Date: 21/03/2020 18:43:27
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1520655
Subject: re: Planes buses trains virises and air

PermeateFree said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

PermeateFree said:

Air on modern aircraft are so well filtered that they apparently trap all particles including virus.

There are no air filters between passengers.

A cough can travel further than a breath

A sneeze can travel further than a cough

Everyone’s air vapours hang around in the cabin for a while before being replenished

Planes are worse than ships for collecting an airborne virus.

imagine seeing everyone breathing out, coughing, sneezing

Well take that up with the Qantas people who broadcast it a couple of days ago.

They probably don’t want people to know that.

It might effect sales.

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Date: 21/03/2020 18:45:28
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1520657
Subject: re: Planes buses trains virises and air

Google’s coronavirus information site is now live

Google has just launched a site with information and resources to understand the coronavirus outbreak. You can access it at google.com/covid19.

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Date: 21/03/2020 18:49:37
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1520660
Subject: re: Planes buses trains virises and air

Tau.Neutrino said:


PermeateFree said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

There are no air filters between passengers.

A cough can travel further than a breath

A sneeze can travel further than a cough

Everyone’s air vapours hang around in the cabin for a while before being replenished

Planes are worse than ships for collecting an airborne virus.

imagine seeing everyone breathing out, coughing, sneezing

Well take that up with the Qantas people who broadcast it a couple of days ago.

They probably don’t want people to know that.

It might effect sales.

Doesn’t seem to matter with people who have already made up their minds.

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