Here. Let’s start a new chunk.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-they-call-it-the-apocalypse-inside-italys-hardest-hit-hospital-11960597?fbclid=IwAR2xQVr2STusDBd8c1rX076Df_CEhKND3aEubSDy8ViO_muAafPSQV7c18Q

Italy’s hardest hit region wants you to see how the hospitals are being affected by the coronavirus 19

buffy said:

Here. Let’s start a new chunk.

Yes. Time to move on.

thanks

are we all dead yet

SCIENCE said:

thanks

are we all dead yet

Not quite.

Apparently is has been a month since the first death was recorded in Italy , so the number has jumped from 1 to 4825 in wthin aa 4 week period.

Italy COVID-19 deaths increase by 793 in a day

The death toll from COVID-19 in Italy has risen to 4,825 after the biggest hike in the number of deaths in the country in 24 hours.

On Thursday, Italy overtook China as the country to register the most deaths.

Italy surpasses its own record death toll for a single day, with 793…

Italy has set a record for the number of coronavirus-related deaths in a single day, with 793 deaths in 24 hours. The number of deaths in Italy since the start of the outbreak has reached nearly 5,000, and the number of reported cases have passed 50,000.

monkey skipper said:

Apparently is has been a month since the first death was recorded in Italy , so the number has jumped from 1 to 4825 in wthin aa 4 week period.

Italy COVID-19 deaths increase by 793 in a day

The death toll from COVID-19 in Italy has risen to 4,825 after the biggest hike in the number of deaths in the country in 24 hours.

On Thursday, Italy overtook China as the country to register the most deaths.

Italy surpasses its own record death toll for a single day, with 793…

Italy has set a record for the number of coronavirus-related deaths in a single day, with 793 deaths in 24 hours. The number of deaths in Italy since the start of the outbreak has reached nearly 5,000, and the number of reported cases have passed 50,000.

>On Thursday, Italy overtook China as the country to register the most deaths. Maybe Italy admits to more deaths.

Tamb said:

monkey skipper said:

Apparently is has been a month since the first death was recorded in Italy , so the number has jumped from 1 to 4825 in wthin aa 4 week period.

Italy COVID-19 deaths increase by 793 in a day

The death toll from COVID-19 in Italy has risen to 4,825 after the biggest hike in the number of deaths in the country in 24 hours.

On Thursday, Italy overtook China as the country to register the most deaths.

Italy surpasses its own record death toll for a single day, with 793…

Italy has set a record for the number of coronavirus-related deaths in a single day, with 793 deaths in 24 hours. The number of deaths in Italy since the start of the outbreak has reached nearly 5,000, and the number of reported cases have passed 50,000.

>On Thursday, Italy overtook China as the country to register the most deaths. Maybe Italy admits to more deaths.

Possibly and we do alas rely on the sharing of factual events to understand the scope of the problem.

The Italian medical teams are pleading in their media opportunities for other nations to react more quickly and expressed a real concern about the same issue just about to hit the UK.

SCIENCE said:

thanks

are we all dead yet

PM Scott Morrison goes for broke with $189b stimulus package

Coronavirus and royalty: An infected prince, a death rumour and an isolated Queen

News Coronavirus

12:12am, Mar 22, 2020 Updated: 15m ago
PM Scott Morrison goes for broke with $189b stimulus package

As the coronavirus ravages Australia’s economy, the PM hopes an unprecedented cash splash is the antidote. Photo: Getty

Australia will gamble on an unprecedented $189 billion stimulus package to protect the nation from a looming recession.
The scheme will including cash payments of up to $100,000 for small businesses, unsecured loans, wage subsidies and welfare payments for the unemployed.

Prime Minister Scott Morrison will announce on Sunday the massive shot in the arm for the economy aimed at helping employers retain staff with an injection of cash ten times the value of his original $17 billion stimulus package.
It includes a second stimulus injection of $66 billion on top of the first round, plus the measures announced by the Reserve Bank this week, bringing the total package to $189 billion.

The latest cash splash is likely to keep the budget in deficit for years to come but is necessary to protect the nation from being plunged into a prolonged recession.

It will include a wage subsidy to save small business jobs, plus a guarantee on loans to small businesses intended to help them weather the storm of expected shutdowns.

Some businesses will be eligible for a cash payment of up to $100,000.

Treasurer Josh Frydenberg and PM Scott Morrison are pulling out all the stops in a frantic gamble to fend off a crushing recession.

The Prime Minister is also foreshadowing a third phase to the stimulus package that will be announced over the next six months. He conceded, however, that not all small businesses will survive the coronavirus.
“We want to help businesses keep going as best they can or to pause instead of falling apart,” he said.
“We want to ensure that when this crisis has passed Australia can bounce back.
“There is a lot of pain coming but we’re going to cushion the blow as best we can.

“We’re already seeing the devastating economic impact coronavirus is having for Australia’s local businesses. Unfortunately, it is going to get worse before it gets better – but it will get better.”

Treasurer Josh Frydenberg said Australia should be reassured the government was doing whatever it could to cushion the economic impact.

“These are extraordinary times requiring extraordinary measures, but Australians can be reassured that their government is working day and night to protect their health, wellbeing and livelihoods,” he said.

Yes the whole ‘flatten the curve’ approach, while better than ‘it’s just a flu’, still implies many die and the economy and many smaller businesses get buried too…

…Remembering that small business employs 44% of Australia’s workforce should underline where we need to focus.
— Simon Stahn (@SimonStahn) March 21, 2020

The tax-free cash payment of up to $100,000 will be worth 100 per cent of the tax those small businesses are withholding from their employee’s salary and wages.

But to be eligible, employers must be running a small or medium business with a turnover under $50 million. It will also be available to eligible not-for-profit charities. That measure is worth $25.2 billion.
“Australia’s small and medium businesses are the engine room of our economy. When they hurt, we all hurt,” the Prime Minister said.

“The plan we’re rolling out is focused on building a bridge for as many of those businesses and their workers as we can to get them over this crisis.

“That means supporting wages for small businesses so they don’t need to let go of their staff, and ensuring that during the crisis small businesses know we have their backs on their bank loans.
“Many of our restaurants and bars, our hotels and tourism operators, our hairdressers and beauty salons and our events companies are already feeling the brunt of the economic impact of coronavirus. This is about finding a way for them and their workers to build a bridge to the other side of this crisis.

“The next few months are going to be a difficult journey but we all have a role to play to adapt to the changes we’re facing, to cushion the impact of what is happening, and to pull together so we can bounce back when we get to the other side.
“This is all about getting through the next six months or longer as the virus takes its course. Our support is all about building an economic bridge to get us to the other side so, together, we get through this.”
Banks too

The new package includes the first $17.6bn tranche of the stimulus package and the $105 billion worth of measures the Reserve Bank of Australia has announced to help banks give small business owners a six months pause on some loans.
The stimulus is twice the size of the comparative stimulus packages in Canada and Hong Kong (both 4.5 per cent of GDP) and South Korea (4 per cent of GDP).

The Morrison Government will also announce the Coronavirus SME Guarantee Scheme will be able to be accessed by eligible banks and non-bank lenders

The Commonwealth will guarantee 50 per cent through the participating banks of an eligible loan to small and medium enterprise customers that have been impacted by the coronavirus.
The scheme will assist new or existing customers of banks and non-bank lenders.
The maximum loan value will be $250,000 for a term up to three years but it will not apply to re-financing of existing customers.

monkey skipper said:

PM Scott Morrison goes for broke with $189b stimulus package

We’ll hear no more about Labor ‘throwing away the surplus’ back in 2009, then.

captain_spalding said:

monkey skipper said:

PM Scott Morrison goes for broke with $189b stimulus package

We’ll hear no more about Labor ‘throwing away the surplus’ back in 2009, then.

true dat

Imagine if they spent all that money building a renewable energy system and creating jobs and manufacturing capacity to create it.

Another wasted opportunity.

Invest in pokies and alcohol

captain_spalding said:

Great idea but when did Denmark start using dollars?

captain_spalding said:

Great idea.

Peak Warming Man said:

captain_spalding said:

Great idea but when did Denmark start using dollars?

Well spotted.

Peak Warming Man said:

captain_spalding said:

Great idea but when did Denmark start using dollars?

Plus you can tell it’s a shopped sign.

ChrispenEvan said:

Peak Warming Man said:

captain_spalding said:

Great idea but when did Denmark start using dollars?

Plus you can tell it’s a shopped sign.

plus it is a true story.

https://www.boredpanda.com/danish-supermarket-stop-hoarding-hand-sanitizer/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=organic

And a Good Idea. And necessary, I would think.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-22/victoria-coronavirus-self-isolation-emergency-food-packages/12078874

https://10daily.com.au/news/australia/a200321juhdg/some-people-are-just-stupid-hundreds-still-flock-to-aussie-beach-shut-down-over-coronavirus-fears-20200321

ChrispenEvan said:

https://10daily.com.au/news/australia/a200321juhdg/some-people-are-just-stupid-hundreds-still-flock-to-aussie-beach-shut-down-over-coronavirus-fears-20200321

Not as stupid as letting all those people off the cruise ships.

Tamb said:

ChrispenEvan said:

https://10daily.com.au/news/australia/a200321juhdg/some-people-are-just-stupid-hundreds-still-flock-to-aussie-beach-shut-down-over-coronavirus-fears-20200321

Not as stupid as letting all those people off the cruise ships.

yeah, that’s another good one.

dv said:

She’s only asking for some certainty. Surely someone could give her some certainty. Certainty here…stat.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2020-03-20/how-long-does-coronavirus-last-on-surfaces/12074330?jwsource=cl

The doctor in this video link talks about different approaches and bell curve outcomes. One point he makes is that isolations slow the rate at which people die and therefore the opportunity to actually receive acute care is more likely.

sibeen said:

dv said:

She’s only asking for some certainty. Surely someone could give her some certainty. Certainty here…stat.

No problems. This will end before March 2025.

monkey skipper said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2020-03-20/how-long-does-coronavirus-last-on-surfaces/12074330?jwsource=cl

The doctor in this video link talks about different approaches and bell curve outcomes. One point he makes is that isolations slow the rate at which people die and therefore the opportunity to actually receive acute care is more likely.

Cairns hospital A&E is almost always stretched to capacity even without Coronavirus. Anything that can be done to lessen further influx will be welcomed.

Tamb said:

ChrispenEvan said:

https://10daily.com.au/news/australia/a200321juhdg/some-people-are-just-stupid-hundreds-still-flock-to-aussie-beach-shut-down-over-coronavirus-fears-20200321

Not as stupid as letting all those people off the cruise ships.

prolonged confinement, you can generalize to restricted behavior, as does stress, negatively effects the immune system

Tamb said:

monkey skipper said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2020-03-20/how-long-does-coronavirus-last-on-surfaces/12074330?jwsource=cl

The doctor in this video link talks about different approaches and bell curve outcomes. One point he makes is that isolations slow the rate at which people die and therefore the opportunity to actually receive acute care is more likely.

Cairns hospital A&E is almost always stretched to capacity even without Coronavirus. Anything that can be done to lessen further influx will be welcomed.

Yes.

Italy is at the point where there are deaths from the virus actually isolated and shut up in a room in their own homes because the funeral homes cannot accommodate all of the call outs, some of the funeral home staff have also succumb to the virus , which is why the army was then needed to assist. Family members can no contact with their deceased family members either or their personal belongings.

monkey skipper said:

Tamb said:

monkey skipper said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2020-03-20/how-long-does-coronavirus-last-on-surfaces/12074330?jwsource=cl

The doctor in this video link talks about different approaches and bell curve outcomes. One point he makes is that isolations slow the rate at which people die and therefore the opportunity to actually receive acute care is more likely.

Cairns hospital A&E is almost always stretched to capacity even without Coronavirus. Anything that can be done to lessen further influx will be welcomed.

Yes.

Italy is at the point where there are deaths from the virus actually isolated and shut up in a room in their own homes because the funeral homes cannot accommodate all of the call outs, some of the funeral home staff have also succumb to the virus , which is why the army was then needed to assist. Family members can no contact with their deceased family members either or their personal belongings.

I know it’s harsh but people will need to forgo the traditional burial procedures. Body bags instead of coffins, postpone funerals & cremate immediately etc.

“Brazil has the highest number of confirmed cases in the region and has begun closing almost all of its land borders to visitors.

But the restrictions have been seen as relatively weak compared to other Latin American nations. Americans, for example, are still allowed in but citizens of the EU, China, Japan, Australia, Malaysia and South Korea are barred from entering the country.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-22/coronavirus-covid-19-impact-on-cities-around-world-quiet-streets/12071636

I wonder why Brazil hasn’t banned USAsians? Seems ludicrous.

just reading new corona occasionally causes encephalitis, and neurological symptoms perhaps not properly encephalitis

and elsewhere, of room temperature, or outside temperatures, 56 °C for 30 minutes kills it, so don’t rely on the AC turned up, or outdoor ambient temperatures, if what am reading is to be believed, and probably wouldn’t rely on the UV from the sun being enough to kill it in a hurry

Tamb said:

monkey skipper said:

Tamb said:

Cairns hospital A&E is almost always stretched to capacity even without Coronavirus. Anything that can be done to lessen further influx will be welcomed.

Yes.

Italy is at the point where there are deaths from the virus actually isolated and shut up in a room in their own homes because the funeral homes cannot accommodate all of the call outs, some of the funeral home staff have also succumb to the virus , which is why the army was then needed to assist. Family members can no contact with their deceased family members either or their personal belongings.

I know it’s harsh but people will need to forgo the traditional burial procedures. Body bags instead of coffins, postpone funerals & cremate immediately etc.

I agree. Desperate times, desperate measures.

Tamb said:

monkey skipper said:

Tamb said:

Cairns hospital A&E is almost always stretched to capacity even without Coronavirus. Anything that can be done to lessen further influx will be welcomed.

Yes.

Italy is at the point where there are deaths from the virus actually isolated and shut up in a room in their own homes because the funeral homes cannot accommodate all of the call outs, some of the funeral home staff have also succumb to the virus , which is why the army was then needed to assist. Family members can no contact with their deceased family members either or their personal belongings.

I know it’s harsh but people will need to forgo the traditional burial procedures. Body bags instead of coffins, postpone funerals & cremate immediately etc.

this is the approach that china took (I believe)

Haven’t heard a peep from the QLD govt regarding a stimulus package. They must be relying upon the Federal govt this round.

https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-the-hammer-and-the-dance-be9337092b56

Decent article on suppression.

sibeen said:

https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-the-hammer-and-the-dance-be9337092b56

Decent article on suppression.

It’s a well researched article that everybody should read. I have been quoting it in here for over a week.

In particular, the time-line graph is brilliant.

———————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————

“The country’s rate of new confirmed coronavirus cases is now growing at 20-25 per cent a day, with some projections showing between 1 or 2 million Australians could be infected by the end of April.

If those numbers were reached, tens of thousands of people would be dead based on the mortality rate recorded by China earlier this year.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-22/victoria-new-south-wales-push-for-lockdown-due-to-coronavirus/12079124

A full lock-down is fast approaching. Probably should’ve been done a week or more ago.

>>The country’s rate of new confirmed coronavirus cases is now growing at 20-25 per cent a day, with some projections showing between 1 or 2 million Australians could be infected by the end of April.

That’s not true for the past 3 or 5 days the number of new cases has varied between 120-170, today it’s 144.

Peak Warming Man said:

>>The country’s rate of new confirmed coronavirus cases is now growing at 20-25 per cent a day, with some projections showing between 1 or 2 million Australians could be infected by the end of April.

That’s not true for the past 3 or 5 days the number of new cases has varied between 120-170, today it’s 144.

That depends on the time of day you look at it. Different states report at different times. This graph is updated in the evening.

“The latest update was just after 7:30pm AEDT on Saturday, March 21.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-17/coronavirus-cases-data-reveals-how-covid-19-spreads-in-australia/12060704

Michael V said:

sibeen said:

https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-the-hammer-and-the-dance-be9337092b56

Decent article on suppression.

It’s a well researched article that everybody should read. I have been quoting it in here for over a week.

In particular, the time-line graph is brilliant.

———————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————

“The country’s rate of new confirmed coronavirus cases is now growing at 20-25 per cent a day, with some projections showing between 1 or 2 million Australians could be infected by the end of April.

If those numbers were reached, tens of thousands of people would be dead based on the mortality rate recorded by China earlier this year.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-22/victoria-new-south-wales-push-for-lockdown-due-to-coronavirus/12079124

A full lock-down is fast approaching. Probably should’ve been done a week or more ago.

SlowMo should have been writing up those plans while on holiday in Hawaii.

As you up the testing numbers you will be upping the number of confirmed cases separately from measuring new cases, I think. Just to confuse matters.

I see NSW and VIC are pushing for lockdowns to start already.

buffy said:

As you up the testing numbers you will be upping the number of confirmed cases separately from measuring new cases, I think. Just to confuse matters.

Everything confuses matters. If triage means that older people get left to die to allow a younger person to use the intensive care, The this willmess the figures of what ages are needing intensive care.

party_pants said:

I see NSW and VIC are pushing for lockdowns to start already.

Reports are that Victoria wants to shut schools on Tuesday.

Witty Rejoinder said:

party_pants said:

I see NSW and VIC are pushing for lockdowns to start already.

Reports are that Victoria wants to shut schools on Tuesday.

Junior prog would prefer that it be effective immediately as she has a paper due tomorrow and she hasn’t finished writing it.

sibeen said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

party_pants said:

I see NSW and VIC are pushing for lockdowns to start already.

Reports are that Victoria wants to shut schools on Tuesday.

Junior prog would prefer that it be effective immediately as she has a paper due tomorrow and she hasn’t finished writing it.

Her ability to always look on the bright side is inspiring.

Michael V said:

Peak Warming Man said:

>>The country’s rate of new confirmed coronavirus cases is now growing at 20-25 per cent a day, with some projections showing between 1 or 2 million Australians could be infected by the end of April.

That’s not true for the past 3 or 5 days the number of new cases has varied between 120-170, today it’s 144.

That depends on the time of day you look at it. Different states report at different times. This graph is updated in the evening.

“The latest update was just after 7:30pm AEDT on Saturday, March 21.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-17/coronavirus-cases-data-reveals-how-covid-19-spreads-in-australia/12060704

Fair enough, on this site you can look at current and yesterday results, they have been between 120-170, they have yesterday for Australia as 172 and today at 144, but yeah time of reporting can confuse things.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

dv said:

:)

dv said:

Funny and deadly serious at the same time.

dv said:

I think he’s making the sign of the cross.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/21/mike-pence-coronavirus-crisis

An article I never thought would see the light of day over on the Gran.

We live in strange times.

https://www.google.com/covid19/

https://www.health.gov.au/news/health-alerts/novel-coronavirus-2019-ncov-health-alert

When they refer to “confirmed” cases, what do they mean? That the patient tested positive with the standard test kit, or the virus was found in the patient’s blood, or something else? If they mean tested positive to the test, do they take false positives into account? What is the test’s rate of false positives? Poik said the other day the false negatives rate is around 20%, but I can’t find any other information about test efficiency.

btm said:

When they refer to “confirmed” cases, what do they mean? That the patient tested positive with the standard test kit, or the virus was found in the patient’s blood, or something else? If they mean tested positive to the test, do they take false positives into account? What is the test’s rate of false positives? Poik said the other day the false negatives rate is around 20%, but I can’t find any other information about test efficiency.

>>>>>>the patient tested positive with the standard test kit

This.

btm said:

When they refer to “confirmed” cases, what do they mean? That the patient tested positive with the standard test kit, or the virus was found in the patient’s blood, or something else? If they mean tested positive to the test, do they take false positives into account? What is the test’s rate of false positives? Poik said the other day the false negatives rate is around 20%, but I can’t find any other information about test efficiency.

Shh..you are confusing things again with knowledge of testing procedures.

We’re going to go for a run at the park at 4 am. Apparently we are allowed out for exercise in non-crowded places.

dv said:

We’re going to go for a run at the park at 4 am. Apparently we are allowed out for exercise in non-crowded places.

Terrific.

Peak Warming Man said:

Michael V said:

Peak Warming Man said:

>>The country’s rate of new confirmed coronavirus cases is now growing at 20-25 per cent a day, with some projections showing between 1 or 2 million Australians could be infected by the end of April.

That’s not true for the past 3 or 5 days the number of new cases has varied between 120-170, today it’s 144.

That depends on the time of day you look at it. Different states report at different times. This graph is updated in the evening.

“The latest update was just after 7:30pm AEDT on Saturday, March 21.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-17/coronavirus-cases-data-reveals-how-covid-19-spreads-in-australia/12060704

Fair enough, on this site you can look at current and yesterday results, they have been between 120-170, they have yesterday for Australia as 172 and today at 144, but yeah time of reporting can confuse things.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Ta.

dv said:

We’re going to go for a run at the park at 4 am. Apparently we are allowed out for exercise in non-crowded places.

Is it worth going to the park at 4am?

party_pants said:

dv said:

We’re going to go for a run at the park at 4 am. Apparently we are allowed out for exercise in non-crowded places.

Is it worth going to the park at 4am?

I would think so, be light in a little while, quiet etc.

party_pants said:

dv said:

We’re going to go for a run at the park at 4 am. Apparently we are allowed out for exercise in non-crowded places.

Is it worth going to the park at 4am?

We need to get out of the house, need some open air and exercise. The circumstances under which this is legal, currently, are limited: we are required to choose a place and time where there will not be other people.

Pulls curtain back a bit, looks out window for pandemic, pulls curtain back.

South Australia to close borders and require all arrivals to self-isolate

The Johns Hopkins map seems devoid of lots of info today.

sarahs mum said:

The Johns Hopkins map seems devoid of lots of info today.

The map is in isolation.

sarahs mum said:

The Johns Hopkins map seems devoid of lots of info today.

Maybe they’re stuck at home self-isolating

sarahs mum said:

The Johns Hopkins map seems devoid of lots of info today.

Active cases are shown on the recent map I downloaded, but not cumulative confirmed cases.

Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

The Johns Hopkins map seems devoid of lots of info today.

Active cases are shown on the recent map I downloaded, but not cumulative confirmed cases.

I can’t click on Tasmania or Georgia anymore.

I’m not going back through the whole thread…

Govt to make decision on schools closures tonight. Mini Me’s school sent us a link for online resources on Friday.

With NSW shutting down non-essential services, looks like school closures will be happening. It’s only two weeks til holidays anyway (for Qld at least).

sarahs mum said:

Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

The Johns Hopkins map seems devoid of lots of info today.

Active cases are shown on the recent map I downloaded, but not cumulative confirmed cases.

I can’t click on Tasmania or Georgia anymore.

Tassie worked for me.

I don’t know if i’ll be ‘shut down’ or not.

I work in a non-clinical area of the hospital, so they might say, ok, you can carry on.

On the other hand, if they want to drastically reduce the number of people around the place…

sarahs mum said:

Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

The Johns Hopkins map seems devoid of lots of info today.

Active cases are shown on the recent map I downloaded, but not cumulative confirmed cases.

I can’t click on Tasmania or Georgia anymore.

Here’s Georgia USA for you.

captain_spalding said:

I don’t know if i’ll be ‘shut down’ or not.

I work in a non-clinical area of the hospital, so they might say, ok, you can carry on.

On the other hand, if they want to drastically reduce the number of people around the place…

One of my workplaces is on mini-break because of the virus and the flow on effects.

Is there any chance that this virus changes personal habits wildly? I only ask because SWMBO is in the kitchen…baking.

sibeen said:

Is there any chance that this virus changes personal habits wildly? I only ask because SWMBO is in the kitchen…baking.

Faaarrrkk.

You might be safer out in the shed, mate.

Rule 303 said:

It may be that the Qld Premier will also make an announcement soon.

I think that she has to get permission from Jackie Trad (Deputy Premier) first, though.

The main takeaway is that JobSeeker Payment (previously called Newstart) will be almost doubled for six months. The rate for a single person with no children will now be $1,115.70 a fortnight.

That will be accomplished with a massive $550 per fortnight top-up payment to everyone on JobSeeker Payment. It will apply to existing and new recipients.

(For a sense of scale, social service groups calling for a permanent boost to Newstart wanted a $95 a week increase.)

Crucially, the $550 top-up will not be affected by earnings. What this means is, while your dole payments will be tapered according to your earnings, as long as don’t earn $1,100 in a fortnight (which means you lose your payments all together), you will still get the full $550 supplement.

This will be crucial for casual workers and sole-traders, the government says.

The government is also waiving the liquid assets waiting test, meaning people will not have to whittle down their savings before accessing Jobseeker Payment.

People on Youth Allowance JobSeeker, Parenting Payment, Farm Household Allowance and Special Benefit will also get this $550 fortnightly top-up payment.

——

I’m somewhat surprised.

Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

Michael V said:

Active cases are shown on the recent map I downloaded, but not cumulative confirmed cases.

I can’t click on Tasmania or Georgia anymore.

Tassie worked for me.

how many is tassie?

Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

Michael V said:

Active cases are shown on the recent map I downloaded, but not cumulative confirmed cases.

I can’t click on Tasmania or Georgia anymore.

Here’s Georgia USA for you.

that’s up about 20% on yesterday.

sibeen said:

Is there any chance that this virus changes personal habits wildly? I only ask because SWMBO is in the kitchen…baking.

Mr Mutant is baking chocolate-banana cupcakes.

dv said:

party_pants said:

dv said:

We’re going to go for a run at the park at 4 am. Apparently we are allowed out for exercise in non-crowded places.

Is it worth going to the park at 4am?

We need to get out of the house, need some open air and exercise. The circumstances under which this is legal, currently, are limited: we are required to choose a place and time where there will not be other people.

Looks like we’re all going to end up in a similar situation.

Rule 303 said:

Good. Very good.

sarahs mum said:

The main takeaway is that JobSeeker Payment (previously called Newstart) will be almost doubled for six months. The rate for a single person with no children will now be $1,115.70 a fortnight.

That will be accomplished with a massive $550 per fortnight top-up payment to everyone on JobSeeker Payment. It will apply to existing and new recipients.

(For a sense of scale, social service groups calling for a permanent boost to Newstart wanted a $95 a week increase.)

Crucially, the $550 top-up will not be affected by earnings. What this means is, while your dole payments will be tapered according to your earnings, as long as don’t earn $1,100 in a fortnight (which means you lose your payments all together), you will still get the full $550 supplement.

This will be crucial for casual workers and sole-traders, the government says.

The government is also waiving the liquid assets waiting test, meaning people will not have to whittle down their savings before accessing Jobseeker Payment.

People on Youth Allowance JobSeeker, Parenting Payment, Farm Household Allowance and Special Benefit will also get this $550 fortnightly top-up payment.

——

I’m somewhat surprised.

They just bought the next election with our money.

sarahs mum said:

The main takeaway is that JobSeeker Payment (previously called Newstart) will be almost doubled for six months. The rate for a single person with no children will now be $1,115.70 a fortnight.

That will be accomplished with a massive $550 per fortnight top-up payment to everyone on JobSeeker Payment. It will apply to existing and new recipients.

(For a sense of scale, social service groups calling for a permanent boost to Newstart wanted a $95 a week increase.)

Crucially, the $550 top-up will not be affected by earnings. What this means is, while your dole payments will be tapered according to your earnings, as long as don’t earn $1,100 in a fortnight (which means you lose your payments all together), you will still get the full $550 supplement.

This will be crucial for casual workers and sole-traders, the government says.

The government is also waiving the liquid assets waiting test, meaning people will not have to whittle down their savings before accessing Jobseeker Payment.

People on Youth Allowance JobSeeker, Parenting Payment, Farm Household Allowance and Special Benefit will also get this $550 fortnightly top-up payment.

——

I’m somewhat surprised.

To tell the truth I don’t really need it. I survive quite well on the current payment. It’ll be nice to have though.

sarahs mum said:

Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

I can’t click on Tasmania or Georgia anymore.

Tassie worked for me.

how many is tassie?

Tasmania: (remember this could be a day or so out of date).

Divine Angel said:

sibeen said:

Is there any chance that this virus changes personal habits wildly? I only ask because SWMBO is in the kitchen…baking.

Mr Mutant is baking chocolate-banana cupcakes.

We baked bread yesterday.

ChrispenEvan said:

sarahs mum said:

The main takeaway is that JobSeeker Payment (previously called Newstart) will be almost doubled for six months. The rate for a single person with no children will now be $1,115.70 a fortnight.

That will be accomplished with a massive $550 per fortnight top-up payment to everyone on JobSeeker Payment. It will apply to existing and new recipients.

(For a sense of scale, social service groups calling for a permanent boost to Newstart wanted a $95 a week increase.)

Crucially, the $550 top-up will not be affected by earnings. What this means is, while your dole payments will be tapered according to your earnings, as long as don’t earn $1,100 in a fortnight (which means you lose your payments all together), you will still get the full $550 supplement.

This will be crucial for casual workers and sole-traders, the government says.

The government is also waiving the liquid assets waiting test, meaning people will not have to whittle down their savings before accessing Jobseeker Payment.

People on Youth Allowance JobSeeker, Parenting Payment, Farm Household Allowance and Special Benefit will also get this $550 fortnightly top-up payment.

——

I’m somewhat surprised.

To tell the truth I don’t really need it. I survive quite well on the current payment. It’ll be nice to have though.

So where can you hire a super model and do they bring their own coke?
Asking for a friend.

Rule 303 said:

sarahs mum said:

The main takeaway is that JobSeeker Payment (previously called Newstart) will be almost doubled for six months. The rate for a single person with no children will now be $1,115.70 a fortnight.

That will be accomplished with a massive $550 per fortnight top-up payment to everyone on JobSeeker Payment. It will apply to existing and new recipients.

(For a sense of scale, social service groups calling for a permanent boost to Newstart wanted a $95 a week increase.)

Crucially, the $550 top-up will not be affected by earnings. What this means is, while your dole payments will be tapered according to your earnings, as long as don’t earn $1,100 in a fortnight (which means you lose your payments all together), you will still get the full $550 supplement.

This will be crucial for casual workers and sole-traders, the government says.

The government is also waiving the liquid assets waiting test, meaning people will not have to whittle down their savings before accessing Jobseeker Payment.

People on Youth Allowance JobSeeker, Parenting Payment, Farm Household Allowance and Special Benefit will also get this $550 fortnightly top-up payment.

——

I’m somewhat surprised.

They just bought the next election with our money.

More likely with our kids money…

Peak Warming Man said:

ChrispenEvan said:

sarahs mum said:

The main takeaway is that JobSeeker Payment (previously called Newstart) will be almost doubled for six months. The rate for a single person with no children will now be $1,115.70 a fortnight.

That will be accomplished with a massive $550 per fortnight top-up payment to everyone on JobSeeker Payment. It will apply to existing and new recipients.

(For a sense of scale, social service groups calling for a permanent boost to Newstart wanted a $95 a week increase.)

Crucially, the $550 top-up will not be affected by earnings. What this means is, while your dole payments will be tapered according to your earnings, as long as don’t earn $1,100 in a fortnight (which means you lose your payments all together), you will still get the full $550 supplement.

This will be crucial for casual workers and sole-traders, the government says.

The government is also waiving the liquid assets waiting test, meaning people will not have to whittle down their savings before accessing Jobseeker Payment.

People on Youth Allowance JobSeeker, Parenting Payment, Farm Household Allowance and Special Benefit will also get this $550 fortnightly top-up payment.

——

I’m somewhat surprised.

To tell the truth I don’t really need it. I survive quite well on the current payment. It’ll be nice to have though.

So where can you hire a super model and do they bring their own coke?
Asking for a friend.

an agency, and if you pay them enough they’ll bring a cola of your choice.

Michael V said:

Rule 303 said:

sarahs mum said:

The main takeaway is that JobSeeker Payment (previously called Newstart) will be almost doubled for six months. The rate for a single person with no children will now be $1,115.70 a fortnight.

That will be accomplished with a massive $550 per fortnight top-up payment to everyone on JobSeeker Payment. It will apply to existing and new recipients.

(For a sense of scale, social service groups calling for a permanent boost to Newstart wanted a $95 a week increase.)

Crucially, the $550 top-up will not be affected by earnings. What this means is, while your dole payments will be tapered according to your earnings, as long as don’t earn $1,100 in a fortnight (which means you lose your payments all together), you will still get the full $550 supplement.

This will be crucial for casual workers and sole-traders, the government says.

The government is also waiving the liquid assets waiting test, meaning people will not have to whittle down their savings before accessing Jobseeker Payment.

People on Youth Allowance JobSeeker, Parenting Payment, Farm Household Allowance and Special Benefit will also get this $550 fortnightly top-up payment.

——

I’m somewhat surprised.

They just bought the next election with our money.

More likely with our kids money…

jokes on them, i don’t have kids.

ChrispenEvan said:

sarahs mum said:

The main takeaway is that JobSeeker Payment (previously called Newstart) will be almost doubled for six months. The rate for a single person with no children will now be $1,115.70 a fortnight.

That will be accomplished with a massive $550 per fortnight top-up payment to everyone on JobSeeker Payment. It will apply to existing and new recipients.

(For a sense of scale, social service groups calling for a permanent boost to Newstart wanted a $95 a week increase.)

Crucially, the $550 top-up will not be affected by earnings. What this means is, while your dole payments will be tapered according to your earnings, as long as don’t earn $1,100 in a fortnight (which means you lose your payments all together), you will still get the full $550 supplement.

This will be crucial for casual workers and sole-traders, the government says.

The government is also waiving the liquid assets waiting test, meaning people will not have to whittle down their savings before accessing Jobseeker Payment.

People on Youth Allowance JobSeeker, Parenting Payment, Farm Household Allowance and Special Benefit will also get this $550 fortnightly top-up payment.

——

I’m somewhat surprised.

To tell the truth I don’t really need it. I survive quite well on the current payment. It’ll be nice to have though.

I’m guessing my pension claim won’t be processed for many, many months now. That’ll mean no payments for me, I expect.

:(

People are stupid.

ChrispenEvan said:

sarahs mum said:

The main takeaway is that JobSeeker Payment (previously called Newstart) will be almost doubled for six months. The rate for a single person with no children will now be $1,115.70 a fortnight.

That will be accomplished with a massive $550 per fortnight top-up payment to everyone on JobSeeker Payment. It will apply to existing and new recipients.

(For a sense of scale, social service groups calling for a permanent boost to Newstart wanted a $95 a week increase.)

Crucially, the $550 top-up will not be affected by earnings. What this means is, while your dole payments will be tapered according to your earnings, as long as don’t earn $1,100 in a fortnight (which means you lose your payments all together), you will still get the full $550 supplement.

This will be crucial for casual workers and sole-traders, the government says.

The government is also waiving the liquid assets waiting test, meaning people will not have to whittle down their savings before accessing Jobseeker Payment.

People on Youth Allowance JobSeeker, Parenting Payment, Farm Household Allowance and Special Benefit will also get this $550 fortnightly top-up payment.

——

I’m somewhat surprised.

To tell the truth I don’t really need it. I survive quite well on the current payment. It’ll be nice to have though.

I hope you spend some of it in places where it will be well received.

Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

Michael V said:

Tassie worked for me.

how many is tassie?

Tasmania: (remember this could be a day or so out of date).

damn.

“States are updating their figures all the time, but as things stand, this is where we are at.

NSW – 533
VIC – 296
QLD – 259
WA – 90
SA – 67
TAS – 17
ACT – 19
NT – 5

The current national total is 1,286”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-22/coronavirus-australia-stimulus-live-updates-covid-19-latest-news/12078506

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPiZSF1Pi0M

Tucker making some strong points about tertiary education in the USA that certainly has some parallels here.

Michael V said:

ChrispenEvan said:

sarahs mum said:

The main takeaway is that JobSeeker Payment (previously called Newstart) will be almost doubled for six months. The rate for a single person with no children will now be $1,115.70 a fortnight.

That will be accomplished with a massive $550 per fortnight top-up payment to everyone on JobSeeker Payment. It will apply to existing and new recipients.

(For a sense of scale, social service groups calling for a permanent boost to Newstart wanted a $95 a week increase.)

Crucially, the $550 top-up will not be affected by earnings. What this means is, while your dole payments will be tapered according to your earnings, as long as don’t earn $1,100 in a fortnight (which means you lose your payments all together), you will still get the full $550 supplement.

This will be crucial for casual workers and sole-traders, the government says.

The government is also waiving the liquid assets waiting test, meaning people will not have to whittle down their savings before accessing Jobseeker Payment.

People on Youth Allowance JobSeeker, Parenting Payment, Farm Household Allowance and Special Benefit will also get this $550 fortnightly top-up payment.

——

I’m somewhat surprised.

To tell the truth I don’t really need it. I survive quite well on the current payment. It’ll be nice to have though.

I’m guessing my pension claim won’t be processed for many, many months now. That’ll mean no payments for me, I expect.

:(

It’s okay eeyore. I’m sure it will be alright.

Divine Angel said:

People are stupid.

I’m not sure whether that is satire or not.

Apple Is Donating Millions of Masks to Health Workers Battling Coronavirus, CEO Tim Cook Says

Todd Spangler 2 hrs ago

Apple is donating several million industrial-grade respirator masks to health care organizations, amid a critical shortage of supplies and equipment needed to respond those affected by the global coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic.
Tim Cook, the CEO of the tech giant, confirmed Apple’s efforts to help the cause Saturday, saying the supplies would go to providers in the U.S. and Europe.

“Our teams at Apple have been working to help source supplies for healthcare providers fighting COVID-19,” Cook wrote in a post on Twitter. “We’re donating millions of masks for health professionals in the US and Europe. To every one of the heroes on the front lines, we thank you.”

Our teams at Apple have been working to help source supplies for healthcare providers fighting COVID-19. We’re donating millions of masks for health professionals in the US and Europe. To every one of the heroes on the front lines, we thank you.

China has been battling an outbreak of a new SARS-like coronavirus, named 2019-nCoV, which originated in Wuhan. The virus has claimed over 1,000 lives in mainland China – far surpassing the death toll during the SARS outbreak in 2003 – and infected over 43,000 people around the world.

The Chinese government has allocated $144 million to combat the virus. The country and several of its cities are under a travel lockdown as other nations try to contain the spread of the virus, with major airlines suspending their service from and to the Asian nation. Outside of China, the Philippines reported the first death on Feb. 2, 2020, and Hong Kong on Feb. 4.

The other 25 countries and regions infected by the novel coronavirus are Australia, Belgium, Cambodia, Canada, Finland, France, Germany, India, Italy, Japan, Macao, Malaysia, Nepal, Russia, Singapore, South Korea, Spain, Sri Lanka, Sweden, Taiwan, Thailand, UAE, U.K., U.S. and Vietnam. On Jan. 30, the World Health Organization declared the coronavirus outbreak a global emergency.

A man in protective gear waits to evacuate residents from a public housing building in Hong Kong on Feb. 11. It’s not clear how Apple has been able to secure such a large batch of N95 respirator masks, which are the personal protective equipment “most often used to control exposures to infections transmitted via the airborne route,” according to the CDC. Apple did not respond to a request for more info.

Hollywood productions are pitching in to the effort as well, with shows including “Pose,” “Station 19” and “The Resident” donating masks to local health care workers.

N95 masks are in high demand right now — and short supply. Unlike surgical masks, which are not considered respiratory protection, N95 masks have a particulate-filtering facepiece that filters at least 95% of airborne particles.
Pence, in his comments at the White House press conference Saturday, reiterated that companies large and small in the private sector can help. “It’s a great time to go to your storeroom, and if you have N95 masks — if you’ve got 100 of them, if you’ve go 10,000 of them — is to load ’em up drive ’em over to your local hospital,” he said.

Also Saturday, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said the state was sending 1 million N95 masks to New York City, with 500,000 bound for Long Island. A day earlier, Cuomo ordered “non-essential” businesses in New York to have their employees stay home.

Critics have accused the Trump administration of being entirely unprepared to respond to a pandemic of this kind, and the president himself until a few days ago routinely tried to downplay the serious threat posed by COVID-19.

On Thursday, Trump argued it was individual states — not the federal government — that bear the responsibility of procuring and distributing emergency medical supplies.

“The federal government is not supposed to be out there buying vast amounts of items and then shipping. You know, we’re not a shipping clerk,” he said. On Friday, Trump shifted tone, acknowledging that states are “having a hard time” getting masks and claimed the administration had used the Defense Production Act to order “millions of masks, which are coming and which will be distributed to the states.” According to Pence, manufacturers including 3M and Honeywell have boosted production of N95 masks for health care workers by the tens of millions.

sarahs mum said:

ChrispenEvan said:

sarahs mum said:

The main takeaway is that JobSeeker Payment (previously called Newstart) will be almost doubled for six months. The rate for a single person with no children will now be $1,115.70 a fortnight.

That will be accomplished with a massive $550 per fortnight top-up payment to everyone on JobSeeker Payment. It will apply to existing and new recipients.

(For a sense of scale, social service groups calling for a permanent boost to Newstart wanted a $95 a week increase.)

Crucially, the $550 top-up will not be affected by earnings. What this means is, while your dole payments will be tapered according to your earnings, as long as don’t earn $1,100 in a fortnight (which means you lose your payments all together), you will still get the full $550 supplement.

This will be crucial for casual workers and sole-traders, the government says.

The government is also waiving the liquid assets waiting test, meaning people will not have to whittle down their savings before accessing Jobseeker Payment.

People on Youth Allowance JobSeeker, Parenting Payment, Farm Household Allowance and Special Benefit will also get this $550 fortnightly top-up payment.

——

I’m somewhat surprised.

To tell the truth I don’t really need it. I survive quite well on the current payment. It’ll be nice to have though.

I hope you spend some of it in places where it will be well received.

IGA, Fruit Barn, Butchers. The usual places.

SWMBO, a state public servant, just got a phone call to begin working from home from tomorrow.

ChrispenEvan said:

sarahs mum said:

ChrispenEvan said:

To tell the truth I don’t really need it. I survive quite well on the current payment. It’ll be nice to have though.

I hope you spend some of it in places where it will be well received.

IGA, Fruit Barn, Butchers. The usual places.

BWS.

WA will also close all boarders.

Divine Angel said:

People are stupid.

Yep, some are very, very stupid.

Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:

People are stupid.

Yep, some are very, very stupid.

Agree.

Rottnest Island will be used to quarantine new arrivals.

sibeen said:

SWMBO, a state public servant, just got a phone call to begin working from home from tomorrow.

that’ll be nice to have company.

sibeen said:

ChrispenEvan said:

sarahs mum said:

I hope you spend some of it in places where it will be well received.

IGA, Fruit Barn, Butchers. The usual places.

BWS.

cellarbrations, not that often though.

PermeateFree said:

Rottnest Island will be used to quarantine new arrivals.

Won’t anyone think of the quokkas?

Maybe the virus will mutate and only infect stupid and far right wing people.

By removing stupid people and far right people, humanity will be reduced by 80 percent.

This will solve humanities over population problem

PermeateFree said:

Rottnest Island will be used to quarantine new arrivals.

seems fair.

sibeen said:

SWMBO, a state public servant, just got a phone call to begin working from home from tomorrow.

The national peak body closed down all work in my gig last Friday.

Rule 303 said:

sibeen said:

SWMBO, a state public servant, just got a phone call to begin working from home from tomorrow.

The national peak body closed down all work in my gig last Friday.

I’ll still be doing transports.

There are a few old quarantine stations around still like the one at Manly’s Nth Head. There was a quarantine station on one of the Moreton Bay islands.

Rozelle hospital is probably up to the job of a quarantine station again as well.

Working from home could become the new thing.

PermeateFree said:

WA will also close all boarders.

I reckon some will still get out.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Working from home could become the new thing.

I did that for about 7 years previously.

Notices have been put up at the local supermarket asking people not to be aggressive towards staff.

Hope they don’t need to bring in security.

Peak Warming Man said:

PermeateFree said:

WA will also close all boarders.

I reckon some will still get out.

they’re repurposing the starling and sparrow shooters along the border…

Tau.Neutrino said:

Notices have been put up at the local supermarket asking people not to be aggressive towards staff.

Hope they don’t need to bring in security.

we have security at work that are just a phone call away and they do random walk-thrus to show a presence. The coppers do the same from time to time as well.

dv said:

I think I asked the question a little while ago whether Thanos was good or evil.

sibeen said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPiZSF1Pi0M

Tucker making some strong points about tertiary education in the USA that certainly has some parallels here.

I think you are spending entirely too much time watch TC.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Notices have been put up at the local supermarket asking people not to be aggressive towards staff.

Hope they don’t need to bring in security.

Tesco’s have given their staff a ten per cent rise for next couple of months.

sibeen said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPiZSF1Pi0M

Tucker making some strong points about tertiary education in the USA that certainly has some parallels here.

I have no problem with education for its own sake. Want to go study something completely pointless? Fine by me. I do, however, have problems with the industry making a huge fortune from highly-specific vocational education where there’s no hope of employment, or the obvious exploitation of students for profit.

Witty Rejoinder said:

sibeen said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPiZSF1Pi0M

Tucker making some strong points about tertiary education in the USA that certainly has some parallels here.

I think you are spending entirely too much time watch TC.

he was always suspect.

ChrispenEvan said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

sibeen said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPiZSF1Pi0M

Tucker making some strong points about tertiary education in the USA that certainly has some parallels here.

I think you are spending entirely too much time watch TC.

he was always suspect.

If someone makes a decent point I’ll listen to them.

monkey skipper said:

There are a few old quarantine stations around still like the one at Manly’s Nth Head. There was a quarantine station on one of the Moreton Bay islands.

Rozelle hospital is probably up to the job of a quarantine station again as well.

We could easily create them. We are already doing it all the time when we set up temporary small towns to accommodate emergency people. I spent most of January setting up and running these things for anything up to 480 people. In Victoria right now, we could accommodate about 1800 people in temporary quarantine camps that can be completely self-sufficient for weeks at a time.

Can a mesh face mask be used to stop transference?

Tau.Neutrino said:

Can a mesh face mask be used to stop transference?

these things

sibeen said:

ChrispenEvan said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

I think you are spending entirely too much time watch TC.

he was always suspect.

If someone makes a decent point I’ll listen to them.

That entails watching a heap of crap waiting for a decent point i’d wager.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Can a mesh face mask be used to stop transference?

these things

No.

Rule 303 said:

sibeen said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPiZSF1Pi0M

Tucker making some strong points about tertiary education in the USA that certainly has some parallels here.

I have no problem with education for its own sake. Want to go study something completely pointless? Fine by me. I do, however, have problems with the industry making a huge fortune from highly-specific vocational education where there’s no hope of employment, or the obvious exploitation of students for profit.

I agree the amount of people roped into courses above their ability when the govt opened the flood gates to courses a few years back was ruthless as far as some of the providers dared to go. They were reaping the rewards at many student’s expense.

I recall one provider holding onto a cluster of my units and pushing the course duration over the finishing time and then issuing a notice stating units if any needing corrections will be incurring a fee for lateness and a fee for re-submitting.. They were essentially causing student to run over the course completion dates. I raised my points of concerns with the accc and then forwarded the responses from the accc to the course provider and had my assessment marked and released back to me as correct and completed and a date when my qualification would be sent through within 48 hours of receiving the email. Not all students would have the knowledge to follow up the course complaints.

Witty Rejoinder said:

sibeen said:

ChrispenEvan said:

he was always suspect.

If someone makes a decent point I’ll listen to them.

That entails watching a heap of crap waiting for a decent point i’d wager.

you can usually tell pretty quick plus you can always read a few comments to get an idea.

monkey skipper said:

Rule 303 said:

sibeen said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPiZSF1Pi0M

Tucker making some strong points about tertiary education in the USA that certainly has some parallels here.

I have no problem with education for its own sake. Want to go study something completely pointless? Fine by me. I do, however, have problems with the industry making a huge fortune from highly-specific vocational education where there’s no hope of employment, or the obvious exploitation of students for profit.

I agree the amount of people roped into courses above their ability when the govt opened the flood gates to courses a few years back was ruthless as far as some of the providers dared to go. They were reaping the rewards at many student’s expense.

I recall one provider holding onto a cluster of my units and pushing the course duration over the finishing time and then issuing a notice stating units if any needing corrections will be incurring a fee for lateness and a fee for re-submitting.. They were essentially causing student to run over the course completion dates. I raised my points of concerns with the accc and then forwarded the responses from the accc to the course provider and had my assessment marked and released back to me as correct and completed and a date when my qualification would be sent through within 48 hours of receiving the email. Not all students would have the knowledge to follow up the course complaints.

Ah, yep. That’s desperate stuff.

ChrispenEvan said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

sibeen said:

If someone makes a decent point I’ll listen to them.

That entails watching a heap of crap waiting for a decent point i’d wager.

you can usually tell pretty quick plus you can always read a few comments to get an idea.

Nup. The one’s I posted yesterday I were pointed to by a very left leaning site.

sibeen said:

ChrispenEvan said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

That entails watching a heap of crap waiting for a decent point i’d wager.

you can usually tell pretty quick plus you can always read a few comments to get an idea.

Nup. The one’s I posted yesterday I were pointed to by a very left leaning site.

Sorry, I was replying to witty on that, not Boris.

sibeen said:

ChrispenEvan said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

That entails watching a heap of crap waiting for a decent point i’d wager.

you can usually tell pretty quick plus you can always read a few comments to get an idea.

Nup. The one’s I posted yesterday I were pointed to by a very left leaning site.

what? I was referring to the point that you can usually tell if a vid is going to be any good or not, regardless if it is right or left, by watching a bit or looking at the comments. Same as newspaper articles, the language used is a good indication of it’s worth, apart from a humour point of view..

sibeen said:

sibeen said:

ChrispenEvan said:

you can usually tell pretty quick plus you can always read a few comments to get an idea.

Nup. The one’s I posted yesterday I were pointed to by a very left leaning site.

Sorry, I was replying to witty on that, not Boris.

I just gave you heaps too. not sorry though. save it for next time you stuff up.

:-)

Carbon Disposable Respirators last about 8 hours

so If left in the car to use for shopping, petrol stations bank, fast food etc

It should last a while if left in the car

The Queensland Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk has announced a $17 million package to fast-track a coronavirus vaccine developed in the state.

She said the funding would support the University of Queensland (UQ) as the only Australian organisation and one of six worldwide to be tasked to develop a vaccine against COVID-19 by the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations.

“This is now becoming a serious issue here in Queensland and a serious issue here in Australia and we’ve gotta throw everything we’ve got at it, so $10 million today is a great step forward out of a $17 million package,” Ms Palaszczuk said.
“Queensland is a world leader when it comes to research and the progress that is being made here is very encouraging.”
The money would allow researchers to bring a large-scale manufacture of the coronavirus vaccine forward to run parallel with clinical trials.

UQ Professor Paul Young described the work as a “radical approach”.
“We are living through remarkable times and remarkable times sometimes need radical ideas, and that is what the funding announced today is about.”

“The typical timeline for vaccine development has been thrown out the window, with many referring to the possibility of a vaccine in 18 months.
“A vaccine is required even sooner than this.

“We’re not cutting any corners in ensuring this vaccine is going to be safe and efficacious in humans, we will go through those clinical studies, but we should be ready to deploy as soon as that is done.”
“With this approach we should carve about six months off our timeline.”
Queensland Innovation Minister Kate Jones said if successful, there could be a coronavirus vaccine available for emergency use among healthcare workers and vulnerable populations in early 2021.
‘Stay in your village’

The funding announcement came as 38 more people tested positive to coronavirus in the state, bringing the total number of Queensland’s COVID-19 cases to 259.
“We want to contain this virus as long as we can so we can develop a vaccine and ultimately save lives,” Health Minister Steven Miles said.

He said the cases were concentrated in south-east Queensland among those returning from overseas where coronavirus had already spread.

The Premier is urging people not to travel outside their immediate community except for work.
“In the coming weeks and months, I need everyone to stay near your village.
“That means you can support things in your local village, you can shop in your local neighbourhoods, but as much as possible you need to restrict your non-essential travel and stick close to home.
“That’s what we do during cyclones, that’s what we do during floods.
“We all pitch in and help together.”

2m ago 05:30

Two people are dead and six wounded in a protest at a Sri Lankan prison where guards fired on inmates to prevent them from fleeing.

Prisoners at the Anuradhapura prison, about 200km from Colombo, were complaining about the decision by the authorities not to allow visitors as a move to contain the virus.

Senaka Perera, president of the Committee for Protecting Rights of Prisoners, said the inmates were protesting congested conditions and the poor quality of meals after the government banned visitors for two weeks to prevent the spread of the virus. Visitors often bring home-cooked food.

Sri Lanka’s prisons are overcrowded, sometimes housing 5,000 inmates in a facility capable of holding 800, according to the pressure group.

Tensions erupted Saturday at the prison when guards tried to control the riot, police said. In the commotion, guards opened fire to prevent inmates from fleeing, police said.

Sri Lanka has imposed a three-day countrywide curfew since Friday as the number of cases has risen to 77.

40s ago 01:46
Jonathan Howcroft

Jonathan Howcroft

McLachlan is speaking now. He says:

“Games will be suspended until May 31. The situation will be reviewed at the end of April.”

He confirms there will be no premiership awarded in AFLW.

“No premiership will be awarded in the AFLW, as per the recommendation by the executive.”

Training is also to be stopped, and McLachlan says the May 31 date could be pushed back, depending on medical advice.

“All training will be suspended.”

McLachlan says the situation is unprecedented.

“The AFL industry is facing its biggest financial crisis in its history.”

sarahs mum said:

2m ago 05:30

Two people are dead and six wounded in a protest at a Sri Lankan prison where guards fired on inmates to prevent them from fleeing.

Prisoners at the Anuradhapura prison, about 200km from Colombo, were complaining about the decision by the authorities not to allow visitors as a move to contain the virus.

Senaka Perera, president of the Committee for Protecting Rights of Prisoners, said the inmates were protesting congested conditions and the poor quality of meals after the government banned visitors for two weeks to prevent the spread of the virus. Visitors often bring home-cooked food.

Sri Lanka’s prisons are overcrowded, sometimes housing 5,000 inmates in a facility capable of holding 800, according to the pressure group.

Tensions erupted Saturday at the prison when guards tried to control the riot, police said. In the commotion, guards opened fire to prevent inmates from fleeing, police said.

Sri Lanka has imposed a three-day countrywide curfew since Friday as the number of cases has risen to 77.

I’ve been to Anuradhapura, but not the prison. There are quite a lot of ancient ruins there. It’s a World Heritage site.

Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

2m ago 05:30

Two people are dead and six wounded in a protest at a Sri Lankan prison where guards fired on inmates to prevent them from fleeing.

Prisoners at the Anuradhapura prison, about 200km from Colombo, were complaining about the decision by the authorities not to allow visitors as a move to contain the virus.

Senaka Perera, president of the Committee for Protecting Rights of Prisoners, said the inmates were protesting congested conditions and the poor quality of meals after the government banned visitors for two weeks to prevent the spread of the virus. Visitors often bring home-cooked food.

Sri Lanka’s prisons are overcrowded, sometimes housing 5,000 inmates in a facility capable of holding 800, according to the pressure group.

Tensions erupted Saturday at the prison when guards tried to control the riot, police said. In the commotion, guards opened fire to prevent inmates from fleeing, police said.

Sri Lanka has imposed a three-day countrywide curfew since Friday as the number of cases has risen to 77.

I’ve been to Anuradhapura, but not the prison. There are quite a lot of ancient ruins there. It’s a World Heritage site.

maybe next time you can squeeze in a jail stay! :D

monkey skipper said:

Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

2m ago 05:30

Two people are dead and six wounded in a protest at a Sri Lankan prison where guards fired on inmates to prevent them from fleeing.

Prisoners at the Anuradhapura prison, about 200km from Colombo, were complaining about the decision by the authorities not to allow visitors as a move to contain the virus.

Senaka Perera, president of the Committee for Protecting Rights of Prisoners, said the inmates were protesting congested conditions and the poor quality of meals after the government banned visitors for two weeks to prevent the spread of the virus. Visitors often bring home-cooked food.

Sri Lanka’s prisons are overcrowded, sometimes housing 5,000 inmates in a facility capable of holding 800, according to the pressure group.

Tensions erupted Saturday at the prison when guards tried to control the riot, police said. In the commotion, guards opened fire to prevent inmates from fleeing, police said.

Sri Lanka has imposed a three-day countrywide curfew since Friday as the number of cases has risen to 77.

I’ve been to Anuradhapura, but not the prison. There are quite a lot of ancient ruins there. It’s a World Heritage site.

maybe next time you can squeeze in a jail stay! :D

try a Turkish one instead.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/australias-death-toll-is-low-because-of-high-testing-rates-deputy-medical-officer/ar-BB11wqfZ?ocid=spartanntp&fullscreen=true#image=1

“ Deputy Chief Medical Officer Professor Paul Kelly speaks to the media during a press conference at the Australian Department of Health.”

This dude stated the death rate is 1% ,would that be 1% of diagnosed cases or 1% of the population? 1% of a population of 25 million is a less comfortable figure compared with diagnosed cases.

~1% of cases.

monkey skipper said:

Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

2m ago 05:30

Two people are dead and six wounded in a protest at a Sri Lankan prison where guards fired on inmates to prevent them from fleeing.

Prisoners at the Anuradhapura prison, about 200km from Colombo, were complaining about the decision by the authorities not to allow visitors as a move to contain the virus.

Senaka Perera, president of the Committee for Protecting Rights of Prisoners, said the inmates were protesting congested conditions and the poor quality of meals after the government banned visitors for two weeks to prevent the spread of the virus. Visitors often bring home-cooked food.

Sri Lanka’s prisons are overcrowded, sometimes housing 5,000 inmates in a facility capable of holding 800, according to the pressure group.

Tensions erupted Saturday at the prison when guards tried to control the riot, police said. In the commotion, guards opened fire to prevent inmates from fleeing, police said.

Sri Lanka has imposed a three-day countrywide curfew since Friday as the number of cases has risen to 77.

I’ve been to Anuradhapura, but not the prison. There are quite a lot of ancient ruins there. It’s a World Heritage site.

maybe next time you can squeeze in a jail stay! :D

LOLs

No chance. Very unlikely to go to Sri Lanka again.

monkey skipper said:

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/australias-death-toll-is-low-because-of-high-testing-rates-deputy-medical-officer/ar-BB11wqfZ?ocid=spartanntp&fullscreen=true#image=1

“ Deputy Chief Medical Officer Professor Paul Kelly speaks to the media during a press conference at the Australian Department of Health.”

This dude stated the death rate is 1% ,would that be 1% of diagnosed cases or 1% of the population? 1% of a population of 25 million is a less comfortable figure compared with diagnosed cases.

Death rate of those who have tested positive.

OCDC said:

~1% of cases.

But then it is relative

Witty Rejoinder said:

monkey skipper said:

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/australias-death-toll-is-low-because-of-high-testing-rates-deputy-medical-officer/ar-BB11wqfZ?ocid=spartanntp&fullscreen=true#image=1

“ Deputy Chief Medical Officer Professor Paul Kelly speaks to the media during a press conference at the Australian Department of Health.”

This dude stated the death rate is 1% ,would that be 1% of diagnosed cases or 1% of the population? 1% of a population of 25 million is a less comfortable figure compared with diagnosed cases.

Death rate of those who have tested positive.

not ideal but still

Another tip to stop transference is keeping alcohol wipes in the car to use your hands before and after shopping and on the steering wheel before and after use.

Have them around shared keyboards and mice in the home.

monkey skipper said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

monkey skipper said:

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/australias-death-toll-is-low-because-of-high-testing-rates-deputy-medical-officer/ar-BB11wqfZ?ocid=spartanntp&fullscreen=true#image=1

“ Deputy Chief Medical Officer Professor Paul Kelly speaks to the media during a press conference at the Australian Department of Health.”

This dude stated the death rate is 1% ,would that be 1% of diagnosed cases or 1% of the population? 1% of a population of 25 million is a less comfortable figure compared with diagnosed cases.

Death rate of those who have tested positive.

not ideal but still

Much better than the ~10% in Italy.

Michael V said:

monkey skipper said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Death rate of those who have tested positive.

not ideal but still

Much better than the ~10% in Italy.

certainly

The USA has just moved into third position on number of cases.

I’m a bit surprised as I was sure Trump had this under control.

Let’s talk about what happens when the trucks stop….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KCXmZ6l1j8

sibeen said:

The USA has just moved into third position on number of cases.

I’m a bit surprised as I was sure Trump had this under control.

Yeah they should be first by now.

sibeen said:

The USA has just moved into third position on number of cases.

I’m a bit surprised as I was sure Trump had this under control.

New York. :(

sarahs mum said:

Let’s talk about what happens when the trucks stop….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KCXmZ6l1j8

Let’s talk about those keeping the country running….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FUw55e59YM

The National Union of Students says these recipients should also get the $550 coronavirus supplement in a statement:

Thousands of young people who are studying generally receive Youth Allowance (student/apprentice or Other), Newstart or Austudy/Abstudy to supplement their income, and for some, survive while studying. What this exemption means is that students now have an incentive to drop to part time study to receive the higher JobSeeker payment, jeopardising both their education and defunding higher education. By not extending this package to the payments we rely on, full time students who have lost their jobs and are now eligible for income support will be punished for being studying full time. This needs to be addressed immediately.

Another way to stop transference is for banks and supermarkets to wash money

I know banks clean money and not how often

maybe they need to turn to washing notch cycle up a bit

and supply supermarkets and fast food chains with money cleaning machines

or maybe cash registers could be redesigned to wash coins and notes?

that would be better than separate money cleaning machines

Tau.Neutrino said:

Another way to stop transference is for banks and supermarkets to wash money

I know banks clean money and not how often

maybe they need to turn to washing notch cycle up a bit

and supply supermarkets and fast food chains with money cleaning machines

or maybe cash registers could be redesigned to wash coins and notes?

that would be better than separate money cleaning machines

or people cash registers redesigned to place money in money collectors similar to self serve and then checked by the cashier

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Another way to stop transference is for banks and supermarkets to wash money

I know banks clean money and not how often

maybe they need to turn to washing notch cycle up a bit

and supply supermarkets and fast food chains with money cleaning machines

or maybe cash registers could be redesigned to wash coins and notes?

that would be better than separate money cleaning machines

or people cash registers redesigned to place money in money collectors similar to self serve and then checked by the cashier

or people place money in collectors similar to self serve and then checked by the cashier

better.

sarahs mum said:

The National Union of Students says these recipients should also get the $550 coronavirus supplement in a statement:

Thousands of young people who are studying generally receive Youth Allowance (student/apprentice or Other), Newstart or Austudy/Abstudy to supplement their income, and for some, survive while studying. What this exemption means is that students now have an incentive to drop to part time study to receive the higher JobSeeker payment, jeopardising both their education and defunding higher education. By not extending this package to the payments we rely on, full time students who have lost their jobs and are now eligible for income support will be punished for being studying full time. This needs to be addressed immediately.

Jobseeker is just another name for Newstart.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Another way to stop transference is for banks and supermarkets to wash money

I know banks clean money and not how often

maybe they need to turn to washing notch cycle up a bit

and supply supermarkets and fast food chains with money cleaning machines

or maybe cash registers could be redesigned to wash coins and notes?

that would be better than separate money cleaning machines

or people cash registers redesigned to place money in money collectors similar to self serve and then checked by the cashier

or people place money in collectors similar to self serve and then checked by the cashier

better.

any change is dispensed like the serve serve machines

Then supermarket cashiers and fast food people are not touching money at all.

Better for everyone then.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

or people cash registers redesigned to place money in money collectors similar to self serve and then checked by the cashier

or people place money in collectors similar to self serve and then checked by the cashier

better.

any change is dispensed like the serve serve machines

Then supermarket cashiers and fast food people are not touching money at all.

Better for everyone then.

Bugger, too stoned.

Any change is dispensed like the self serve machines

Then supermarket cashiers and fast food people are not touching money at all.

President Donald Trump ignored reports from US intelligence agencies starting in January that warned of the scale and intensity of the coronavirus outbreak in China, The Washington Post reported Friday.

Citing US officials familiar with the agencies’ reports and warnings, the Post reported that intelligence agencies depicted the nature and global spread of the virus and China’s apparent downplaying of its severity, as well as the potential need for government measures to contain it — while Trump opted to dismiss or simply not address their seriousness.

“Donald Trump may not have been expecting this, but a lot of other people in the government were — they just couldn’t get him to do anything about it,” the official noted to the Post. “The system was blinking red.”

The intelligence reports did not predict when the virus might hit the US or recommend steps that should be taken in response, the source said. The reports tracked the spread of the virus in China and then other countries, and warned that Chinese officials were minimizing the impact.

Within the administration, Trump’s aides tried in vain to convince him of the virus’s seriousness, according to the Post. Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar was unable to discuss the virus with Trump until January 18, two senior administration officials told the Post — at which point the President interrupted him to ask when sales of flavored vaping products would resume, senior administration officials told the paper.

Later in January, aides met with then-acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney in an effort to convince higher level officials to monitor the virus — with White House Domestic Policy Council Director Joe Grogan asserting that if the White House did not seriously address the virus, an issue likely to be front and center for months, Trump could risk losing his reelection, people briefed on the meeting told the Post.

Mulvaney subsequently held regular meetings, though officials told the paper that Trump did not take the virus seriously because he did not think it had circulated extensively in the United States.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/20/politics/us-intelligence-reports-trump-coronavirus/index.html

Mr Morrison said the situation at Bondi Beach should be a “wake up call to take these policies seriously”.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-51992357

yeah that’s right, as a prime minister, no need to take the experts seriously, but when you role model stupidity, somehow people are expected to take good advice more seriously

dv said:

President Donald Trump ignored reports from US intelligence agencies starting in January that warned of the scale and intensity of the coronavirus outbreak in China, The Washington Post reported Friday.

Citing US officials familiar with the agencies’ reports and warnings, the Post reported that intelligence agencies depicted the nature and global spread of the virus and China’s apparent downplaying of its severity, as well as the potential need for government measures to contain it — while Trump opted to dismiss or simply not address their seriousness.

“Donald Trump may not have been expecting this, but a lot of other people in the government were — they just couldn’t get him to do anything about it,” the official noted to the Post. “The system was blinking red.”

The intelligence reports did not predict when the virus might hit the US or recommend steps that should be taken in response, the source said. The reports tracked the spread of the virus in China and then other countries, and warned that Chinese officials were minimizing the impact.

Within the administration, Trump’s aides tried in vain to convince him of the virus’s seriousness, according to the Post. Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar was unable to discuss the virus with Trump until January 18, two senior administration officials told the Post — at which point the President interrupted him to ask when sales of flavored vaping products would resume, senior administration officials told the paper.

Later in January, aides met with then-acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney in an effort to convince higher level officials to monitor the virus — with White House Domestic Policy Council Director Joe Grogan asserting that if the White House did not seriously address the virus, an issue likely to be front and center for months, Trump could risk losing his reelection, people briefed on the meeting told the Post.

Mulvaney subsequently held regular meetings, though officials told the paper that Trump did not take the virus seriously because he did not think it had circulated extensively in the United States.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/20/politics/us-intelligence-reports-trump-coronavirus/index.html

“ignore”

well why pay attention to people that aren’t very intelligent, having to do with intel, organisations with poor leadership and run deep state witch hunts

¿

OCDC said:

sibeen said:

The USA has just moved into third position on number of cases.

I’m a bit surprised as I was sure Trump had this under control.

Yeah they should be first by now.

America First

monkey skipper said:

Michael V said:

monkey skipper said:

not ideal but still

Much better than the ~10% in Italy.

certainly

aren’t we in a much more similar position to Italy, than to Korea

sarahs mum said:

sibeen said:

The USA has just moved into third position on number of cases.

I’m a bit surprised as I was sure Trump had this under control.

New York. :(

genius

it’s serious but very stable

Witty Rejoinder said:

monkey skipper said:

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/australias-death-toll-is-low-because-of-high-testing-rates-deputy-medical-officer/ar-BB11wqfZ?ocid=spartanntp&fullscreen=true#image=1

“ Deputy Chief Medical Officer Professor Paul Kelly speaks to the media during a press conference at the Australian Department of Health.”

This dude stated the death rate is 1% ,would that be 1% of diagnosed cases or 1% of the population? 1% of a population of 25 million is a less comfortable figure compared with diagnosed cases.

Death rate of those who have tested positive.

so if we don’t test, we won’t die, right

dv said:

President Donald Trump ignored reports from US intelligence agencies starting in January that warned of the scale and intensity of the coronavirus outbreak in China, The Washington Post reported Friday.

Citing US officials familiar with the agencies’ reports and warnings, the Post reported that intelligence agencies depicted the nature and global spread of the virus and China’s apparent downplaying of its severity, as well as the potential need for government measures to contain it — while Trump opted to dismiss or simply not address their seriousness.

“Donald Trump may not have been expecting this, but a lot of other people in the government were — they just couldn’t get him to do anything about it,” the official noted to the Post. “The system was blinking red.”

The intelligence reports did not predict when the virus might hit the US or recommend steps that should be taken in response, the source said. The reports tracked the spread of the virus in China and then other countries, and warned that Chinese officials were minimizing the impact.

Within the administration, Trump’s aides tried in vain to convince him of the virus’s seriousness, according to the Post. Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar was unable to discuss the virus with Trump until January 18, two senior administration officials told the Post — at which point the President interrupted him to ask when sales of flavored vaping products would resume, senior administration officials told the paper.

Later in January, aides met with then-acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney in an effort to convince higher level officials to monitor the virus — with White House Domestic Policy Council Director Joe Grogan asserting that if the White House did not seriously address the virus, an issue likely to be front and center for months, Trump could risk losing his reelection, people briefed on the meeting told the Post.

Mulvaney subsequently held regular meetings, though officials told the paper that Trump did not take the virus seriously because he did not think it had circulated extensively in the United States.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/20/politics/us-intelligence-reports-trump-coronavirus/index.html

How unsurprising.

SCIENCE said:

monkey skipper said:

Michael V said:

Much better than the ~10% in Italy.

certainly

aren’t we in a much more similar position to Italy, than to Korea

Probably. In my view, a full lock-down should’ve started a week or more ago.

SCIENCE said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

monkey skipper said:

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/australias-death-toll-is-low-because-of-high-testing-rates-deputy-medical-officer/ar-BB11wqfZ?ocid=spartanntp&fullscreen=true#image=1

“ Deputy Chief Medical Officer Professor Paul Kelly speaks to the media during a press conference at the Australian Department of Health.”

This dude stated the death rate is 1% ,would that be 1% of diagnosed cases or 1% of the population? 1% of a population of 25 million is a less comfortable figure compared with diagnosed cases.

Death rate of those who have tested positive.

so if we don’t test, we won’t die, right

Divine Angel said:

SCIENCE said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Death rate of those who have tested positive.

so if we don’t test, we won’t die, right

People can study gravity by jumping up and down

You can study law this way too.

Michael V said:

SCIENCE said:

monkey skipper said:

certainly

aren’t we in a much more similar position to Italy, than to Korea

Probably. In my view, a full lock-down should’ve started a week or more ago.

ah well, at least they’re considering it for this week instead of in 3 weeks

Some hard-hit areas restrict testing as coronavirus death toll grows in the US

CNN)As the coronavirus pandemic grows and more states order residents to stay home, officials are making a tough choice to only test high-risk patients and those who are severely ill.

The number of coronavirus deaths has surged to 323 in the United States as the virus tightens its grip, leading to fears of a widespread shortage of medical supplies

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/22/health/us-coronavirus-wrap-sunday/index.html

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

SCIENCE said:

aren’t we in a much more similar position to Italy, than to Korea

Probably. In my view, a full lock-down should’ve started a week or more ago.

ah well, at least they’re considering it for this week instead of in 3 weeks

you’re a sarcastic bastard aren’t you MZL?

:-)

Divine Angel said:

SCIENCE said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

Death rate of those who have tested positive.

so if we don’t test, we won’t die, right

lol

ChrispenEvan said:

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

Probably. In my view, a full lock-down should’ve started a week or more ago.

ah well, at least they’re considering it for this week instead of in 3 weeks

you’re a sarcastic bastard aren’t you MZL?

:-)

ChrispenEvan = Witty Rejoinder ¿

SCIENCE said:

ChrispenEvan said:

SCIENCE said:

ah well, at least they’re considering it for this week instead of in 3 weeks

you’re a sarcastic bastard aren’t you MZL?

:-)

ChrispenEvan = Witty Rejoinder ¿

i’m better looking.

Can someone watch this and let me know if the 50 minutes is worthwhile?

The Coronavirus Home Lockdown Survival Guide: How To Stay Healthy, Sane & Solvent

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6NnSbZicJU

The Coronavirus Home Lockdown Survival Guide: How To Stay Healthy, Sane & Solvent

In fairness the US is still only 6th on deaths, may not even podium

Tau.Neutrino said:

Can someone watch this and let me know if the 50 minutes is worthwhile?

The Coronavirus Home Lockdown Survival Guide: How To Stay Healthy, Sane & Solvent

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6NnSbZicJU

The Coronavirus Home Lockdown Survival Guide: How To Stay Healthy, Sane & Solvent

it probably isn’t

dv said:

In fairness the US is still only 6th on deaths, may not even podium

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dr3laDc1SeM

dv said:

In fairness the US is still only 6th on deaths, may not even podium

you know they’d refuse to stand anyway, those dirty Chinese world leaders in COVID-19 deaths are drug cheats, imagine if they hadn’t used hydroxychloroquine, we should only pose with the Italian

oh wait that’s Australia

SCIENCE said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Can someone watch this and let me know if the 50 minutes is worthwhile?

The Coronavirus Home Lockdown Survival Guide: How To Stay Healthy, Sane & Solvent

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6NnSbZicJU

The Coronavirus Home Lockdown Survival Guide: How To Stay Healthy, Sane & Solvent

it probably isn’t

ok, I’ll go back to listening to music.

dv said:

In fairness the US is still only 6th on deaths, may not even podium

the numbers are getting serious in New York.

Tau.Neutrino said:

SCIENCE said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Can someone watch this and let me know if the 50 minutes is worthwhile?

The Coronavirus Home Lockdown Survival Guide: How To Stay Healthy, Sane & Solvent

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6NnSbZicJU

The Coronavirus Home Lockdown Survival Guide: How To Stay Healthy, Sane & Solvent

it probably isn’t

ok, I’ll go back to listening to music.

disclaimer: we only watched about 50 s of it

but still music will probably keep you happier, we’re confident

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

SCIENCE said:

aren’t we in a much more similar position to Italy, than to Korea

Probably. In my view, a full lock-down should’ve started a week or more ago.

ah well, at least they’re considering it for this week instead of in 3 weeks

nods

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-22/appeal-to-beachgoers-defying-bondi-beach-ban-coronavirus/12078868

(watched the video)

In balance: they do seem to be keeping their distance while in the water.

Question 1

How do they get to the water which they haven’t been told was closed, if not via the beach which is?

Question 2

Is the mental health cost of people staying at home minding their own business, greater than the mental health cost of people who
(a) get sick, and
(b) have dying friends and family?

dv said:

In fairness the US is still only 6th on deaths, may not even podium

Hmmmmm.

Today is the 22nd and obviously the march is not on today.
However we’ve still got 6 days.

SCIENCE said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

SCIENCE said:

it probably isn’t

ok, I’ll go back to listening to music.

disclaimer: we only watched about 50 s of it

but still music will probably keep you happier, we’re confident

It’s advice for Yanks, by Yanks, anyway.

At some point they’re bound to start talking about your gun cabinet and your ammo supplies.

15m ago 07:30
ACT says schools will be ‘pupil free’ from Tuesday

Just back to the ACT momentarily, the government has also announced it will be shifting rapidly to online learning in schools. It has just annoujnced that a student of Lyneham High School is a confirmed Covid-19 case.

Education minister Yvette Berry said all schools in the ACT will now go “pupil free” from Tuesday.

What that means is no student will be coming to school. Schools will still be operational in that teachers and school staff will be at school on Tuesday March 24 until the school holidays begin. What teachers and school staff will be doing is preparing to move to a different kind of learning.

Schools will instead shift to new forms of learning, primarily online

Australia surpassed 1,000 yesterday. We are now around 1,350 confirmed cases.

Hmmmm

—-

I wish this thread had been called part 3.
I find it annoying that it isn’t.

Maybe the federal government can fund a new mini industry to replace old cash registers with new cash registers across Australia

Shoppers place cash into cash drawers like on self serve machines and get money back in cash dispensers. The new ones reduce handing by the cashiers at food shops etc.

money is an easy way for viruses to transfer, some might say the cashless society is better at reducing transference.

In the meantime its a way for essential services to reduce transference of any virus activity.

Food franchisees and other fast food, bakery outlets be looked at first, followed by supermarkets and petrol stations

Maybe banks can wash money more often.

sarahs mum said:

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I wish this thread had been called part 3.
I find it annoying that it isn’t.

I put dates on it because if I remember I’ll start another for next week next Sunday morning.

sarahs mum said:

—-

I wish this thread had been called part 3.
I find it annoying that it isn’t.

buffy said:

sarahs mum said:

—-

I wish this thread had been called part 3.
I find it annoying that it isn’t.

I put dates on it because if I remember I’ll start another for next week next Sunday morning.

Can it be part 4 with dates?

Sometime yesterday I asked when we were going to elevate to part 3. I think a tipping point was tipped yesterday.

sarahs mum said:

buffy said:

sarahs mum said:

—-

I wish this thread had been called part 3.
I find it annoying that it isn’t.

I put dates on it because if I remember I’ll start another for next week next Sunday morning.

Can it be part 4 with dates?

Sometime yesterday I asked when we were going to elevate to part 3. I think a tipping point was tipped yesterday.

What difference do dates make?

sarahs mum said:

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I wish this thread had been called part 3.
I find it annoying that it isn’t.

it’s like the coal lobby

SCIENCE said:

sarahs mum said:

—-

I wish this thread had been called part 3.
I find it annoying that it isn’t.

it’s like the coal lobby

That was my first thought, too.

(thinks: no, it wasn’t.)

captain_spalding said:

sarahs mum said:

buffy said:

I put dates on it because if I remember I’ll start another for next week next Sunday morning.

Can it be part 4 with dates?

Sometime yesterday I asked when we were going to elevate to part 3. I think a tipping point was tipped yesterday.

What difference do dates make?

ah, shit

SCIENCE said:

captain_spalding said:

sarahs mum said:

Can it be part 4 with dates?

Sometime yesterday I asked when we were going to elevate to part 3. I think a tipping point was tipped yesterday.

What difference do dates make?

ah, shit

Going on a date? Smell like a date!

captain_spalding said:

SCIENCE said:

captain_spalding said:

What difference do dates make?

ah, shit

Going on a date? Smell like a date!

some things shoulda stayed in the 70’s! :-)

The breweries can be funded by the government to roil out pipes from breweries to peoples homes.

This will create many jobs for the industry.

monkey skipper said:

captain_spalding said:

SCIENCE said:

ah, shit

Going on a date? Smell like a date!

some things shoulda stayed in the 70’s! :-)

“You may not be an old-fashioned girl
But you’re gonna get dated”- ‘Girls Talk’, Dave Edmunds.

Tau.Neutrino said:

The breweries can be funded by the government to roil out pipes from breweries to peoples homes.

This will create many jobs for the industry.

And something akin to Nirvana.

Tau.Neutrino said:

The breweries can be funded by the government to roil out pipes from breweries to peoples homes.

This will create many jobs for the industry.

ALP were going to build it with high speed fibre but now it’ll have to be the slower copper pipes thanks to LNP

Teachers could be forced work through the Easter holidays and at weekends to care for the children of coronavirus key workers after the ‘majority’ of parents asked for school spaces through the crisis

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8135811/Chancellor-Rishi-Sunak-steps-stop-mass-coronavirus-layoffs.html

back in the Motherland

what did we tell you

CANCEL THE SCHOOL HOLIDAYS

SCIENCE said:

Teachers could be forced work through the Easter holidays and at weekends to care for the children of coronavirus key workers after the ‘majority’ of parents asked for school spaces through the crisis

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8135811/Chancellor-Rishi-Sunak-steps-stop-mass-coronavirus-layoffs.html

back in the Motherland

what did we tell you

CANCEL THE SCHOOL HOLIDAYS

Can we just cancel 2020, and re-boot as if it’s the start of the Dec 2020- Jan 2021 silly season?

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.16.20037176v1

“Hundreds of severe pediatric COVID-19 infections in Wuhan prior to the lockdown”

Illness in children may have been significantly underestimated.

Back from a constitutional, the gloaming in Brizvagus this evening is magnificent.

captain_spalding said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

The breweries can be funded by the government to roil out pipes from breweries to peoples homes.

This will create many jobs for the industry.

And something akin to Nirvana.

Wots this? Beer running out!

AwesomeO said:

captain_spalding said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

The breweries can be funded by the government to roil out pipes from breweries to peoples homes.

This will create many jobs for the industry.

And something akin to Nirvana.

Wots this? Beer running out!

Out of the tap, i hope.

AwesomeO said:

captain_spalding said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

The breweries can be funded by the government to roil out pipes from breweries to peoples homes.

This will create many jobs for the industry.

And something akin to Nirvana.

Wots this? Beer running out!

Only takes 8-9 days to make your own. For a third of the cost of commercial. And it’s usually better.

Rule 303 said:

AwesomeO said:

captain_spalding said:

And something akin to Nirvana.

Wots this? Beer running out!

Only takes 8-9 days to make your own. For a third of the cost of commercial. And it’s usually better.

Done it before, can’t be arsed.

Rule 303 said:

AwesomeO said:

captain_spalding said:

And something akin to Nirvana.

Wots this? Beer running out!

Only takes 8-9 days to make your own. For a third of the cost of commercial. And it’s usually better.

do it yourself ¿

be careful with that, you’ll go blind

sarahs mum said:

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I wish this thread had been called part 3.
I find it annoying that it isn’t.

the next one can be named Corona Virus part D

Arts said:

sarahs mum said:

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I wish this thread had been called part 3.
I find it annoying that it isn’t.

the next one can be named Corona Virus part D

Then Chapter 5 after that…

SCIENCE said:

Rule 303 said:

AwesomeO said:

Wots this? Beer running out!

Only takes 8-9 days to make your own. For a third of the cost of commercial. And it’s usually better.

do it yourself ¿

be careful with that, you’ll go blind

Been making it for years, have a keg always on standby.
Stiff shit to you apocalypse non preppers.

Arts said:

sarahs mum said:

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I wish this thread had been called part 3.
I find it annoying that it isn’t.

the next one can be named Corona Virus part D

oh you. :)

Arts said:

sarahs mum said:

—-

I wish this thread had been called part 3.
I find it annoying that it isn’t.

the next one can be named Corona Virus part D

Hedera

ChrispenEvan said:

Arts said:

sarahs mum said:

—-

I wish this thread had been called part 3.
I find it annoying that it isn’t.

the next one can be named Corona Virus part D

Hedera

hendra virus

SCIENCE said:

ChrispenEvan said:

Arts said:

the next one can be named Corona Virus part D

Hedera

hendra virus

We could use Roman numerals.

I see the PM is still saying schools should remain open, but it’s up to the National Cabinet. So, um, what is the National Cabinet?

Divine Angel said:

I see the PM is still saying schools should remain open, but it’s up to the National Cabinet. So, um, what is the National Cabinet?

I think its a drinking club.

Divine Angel said:

I see the PM is still saying schools should remain open, but it’s up to the National Cabinet. So, um, what is the National Cabinet?

it’s where you hide your head if you can’t get to the beach to find any sand

SCIENCE said:

ChrispenEvan said:

Arts said:

the next one can be named Corona Virus part D

Hedera

hendra virus

no.

SCIENCE said:

Divine Angel said:

I see the PM is still saying schools should remain open, but it’s up to the National Cabinet. So, um, what is the National Cabinet?

it’s where you hide your head if you can’t get to the beach to find any sand

I was thinking Narnia.

ChrispenEvan said:

SCIENCE said:

ChrispenEvan said:

Hedera

hendra virus

no.

Hedera = ivy = IV = 4

Should I exercise during the coronavirus pandemic? Experts explain the just right exercise curve

So here we are, perfecting our social distancing skills while schools, sports and other forms of social engagement are on indefinite hold, by a dangerous virus named after a (regal) crown. The coronavirus is named because the center envelope is surrounded by small protein spikes called peplomers. These little protein spikes wreak havoc when they attach to lung tissue and hijack otherwise healthy tissue into building a potentially lethal coronavirus army of invaders.

more…

Divine Angel said:

I see the PM is still saying schools should remain open, but it’s up to the National Cabinet. So, um, what is the National Cabinet?

Prime minister and premiers, I think.

Divine Angel said:

I see the PM is still saying schools should remain open, but it’s up to the National Cabinet. So, um, what is the National Cabinet?

I didn’t know about a National Cabinet either. Must be a meeting of Premiers and Chief Ministers.

I’m still none the wiser about the detail for Victoria. I suppose I have to wait until the National Cabinet has finished yakking.

Divine Angel said:

SCIENCE said:

Divine Angel said:

I see the PM is still saying schools should remain open, but it’s up to the National Cabinet. So, um, what is the National Cabinet?

it’s where you hide your head if you can’t get to the beach to find any sand

I was thinking Narnia.

well if we’re going to do the right pandemic control thing …

IN ASIAN WE TRUST ¿

SCIENCE said:

Divine Angel said:

SCIENCE said:

it’s where you hide your head if you can’t get to the beach to find any sand

I was thinking Narnia.

well if we’re going to do the right pandemic control thing …

IN ASIAN WE TRUST ¿

Sneaky.

Well its good that the pole vaulters are exercising during the pandemic.

I cant see any masks though.

So I imagine plumbers and electricians would be able to continue to work. This will affect retail more than anything else really.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Well its good that the pole vaulters are exercising during the pandemic.

I cant see any masks though.

seeing as the vid is dated feb 2019 that is understandable.

party_pants said:

dv said:

We’re going to go for a run at the park at 4 am. Apparently we are allowed out for exercise in non-crowded places.

Is it worth going to the park at 4am?

so you’re into dogging, pp, most things venereal have some treatment possibilities, and aren’t terminal, now it’s a respiratory thing. You’ll need wear a mask, germ filter mask, the both of you, three or however many. I heard masks are not uncommonly worn by doggers anyway. I’ve not tried it.

what’s bothers me, if I survive the next 18 months or whatever until whenever a immunization becomes widely available, or other antiviral treatment, is that meanwhile Australia and so many other countries evolve into something resembling the country from which the pathogen originated. Perfect opportunity to get everyone registered on some database, via some government money lure, department human services or whatever, mygov, myhealth, all the instruments of surveillance and micromanaged reality will be in place. It’s necessary presently, but it’s the rollback that’ll interest me

and there are the tighter borders

buffy said:

So I imagine plumbers and electricians would be able to continue to work. This will affect retail more than anything else really.

Not if they buy supplies, which many of them do every day.

transition said:

Perfect opportunity to get everyone registered on some database, via some government money lure, department human services or whatever, mygov, myhealth, all the instruments of surveillance and micromanaged reality will be in place. It’s necessary presently, but it’s the rollback that’ll interest me

and there are the tighter borders

yeah cos your driver license, tax file number etc etc isn’t already connected and on file.

Rule 303 said:

buffy said:

So I imagine plumbers and electricians would be able to continue to work. This will affect retail more than anything else really.

Not if they buy supplies, which many of them do every day.

So hardware stores will need to be operating because plumbers and electricians need to keep working.

transition said:

party_pants said:

dv said:

We’re going to go for a run at the park at 4 am. Apparently we are allowed out for exercise in non-crowded places.

Is it worth going to the park at 4am?

so you’re into dogging, pp, most things venereal have some treatment possibilities, and aren’t terminal, now it’s a respiratory thing. You’ll need wear a mask, germ filter mask, the both of you, three or however many. I heard masks are not uncommonly worn by doggers anyway. I’ve not tried it.

what’s bothers me, if I survive the next 18 months or whatever until whenever a immunization becomes widely available, or other antiviral treatment, is that meanwhile Australia and so many other countries evolve into something resembling the country from which the pathogen originated. Perfect opportunity to get everyone registered on some database, via some government money lure, department human services or whatever, mygov, myhealth, all the instruments of surveillance and micromanaged reality will be in place. It’s necessary presently, but it’s the rollback that’ll interest me

and there are the tighter borders

The tighter boarders may not be constitutionally legal, it’s also a dicky legal subject for the EU as well.
But because the law is glacial nobody is worried.
Just do it and to hell with the consequences.

ChrispenEvan said:

transition said:

Perfect opportunity to get everyone registered on some database, via some government money lure, department human services or whatever, mygov, myhealth, all the instruments of surveillance and micromanaged reality will be in place. It’s necessary presently, but it’s the rollback that’ll interest me

and there are the tighter borders

yeah cos your driver license, tax file number etc etc isn’t already connected and on file.

you know what I mean

there could be people having end-of-capitalism parties, that sort of thing

buffy said:

Rule 303 said:

buffy said:

So I imagine plumbers and electricians would be able to continue to work. This will affect retail more than anything else really.

Not if they buy supplies, which many of them do every day.

So hardware stores will need to be operating because plumbers and electricians need to keep working.

Those two trades have their own shops, but many trades buy materials frequently, yeah.

ChrispenEvan said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Well its good that the pole vaulters are exercising during the pandemic.

I cant see any masks though.

seeing as the vid is dated feb 2019 that is understandable.

THEY KNEW

SCIENCE said:

ChrispenEvan said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Well its good that the pole vaulters are exercising during the pandemic.

I cant see any masks though.

seeing as the vid is dated feb 2019 that is understandable.

THEY KNEW

Hmmm does 13 months ago count as The Ancients?

All the advisories say that:

a) older people are at high risk

b) symptoms include joint pain and body pain.

Anyone over 60 who didn’t already have either/both of those?

Rule 303 said:

buffy said:

Rule 303 said:

Not if they buy supplies, which many of them do every day.

So hardware stores will need to be operating because plumbers and electricians need to keep working.

Those two trades have their own shops, but many trades buy materials frequently, yeah.

I’m also thinking that around here the hardware shops are also the feed stores. So they are going to have to continue trading. I don’t know where optometry will stand. Not strictly essential…except in the country areas where there are no opthalmologists to deal with ocular emergencies. My eyes had better behave themselves too if travelling becomes more restricted. My specialist is in Geelong. Although he is away at the moment and I would have to see his mentor if anything happens.

Rule 303 said:

buffy said:

So I imagine plumbers and electricians would be able to continue to work. This will affect retail more than anything else really.

Not if they buy supplies, which many of them do every day.

I tell ya the other day this Japanese bloke jumped out from behind a tree and yelled supplies, don’t know what that was all about.

captain_spalding said:

All the advisories say that:

a) older people are at high risk

b) symptoms include joint pain and body pain.

Anyone over 60 who didn’t already have either/both of those?

Well, I can make joint and muscle pain happen by overdoing things.

Peak Warming Man said:

Rule 303 said:

buffy said:

So I imagine plumbers and electricians would be able to continue to work. This will affect retail more than anything else really.

Not if they buy supplies, which many of them do every day.

I tell ya the other day this Japanese bloke jumped out from behind a tree and yelled supplies, don’t know what that was all about.

at least he didn’t yell you clunt!

ChrispenEvan said:

SCIENCE said:

ChrispenEvan said:

seeing as the vid is dated feb 2019 that is understandable.

THEY KNEW

Hmmm does 13 months ago count as The Ancients?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3676139/

Ancient Origin of Coronaviruses

Coronaviruses are found in a diverse array of bat and bird species … Molecular clock dating … suggest that the most recent common ancestor of these viruses existed around 10,000 years ago. … modeling variation in the strength of natural selection over time … found that … ancestor common for all coronaviruses is likely far greater (millions of years) …

captain_spalding said:

All the advisories say that:

a) older people are at high risk

b) symptoms include joint pain and body pain.

Anyone over 60 who didn’t already have either/both of those?

It is a different sort of pain…

Peak Warming Man said:

Rule 303 said:

buffy said:

So I imagine plumbers and electricians would be able to continue to work. This will affect retail more than anything else really.

Not if they buy supplies, which many of them do every day.

I tell ya the other day this Japanese bloke jumped out from behind a tree and yelled supplies, don’t know what that was all about.

Warning you to stock up, you lacist plick.

Divine Angel said:

I see the PM is still saying schools should remain open, but it’s up to the National Cabinet. So, um, what is the National Cabinet?

It’s like a 2020 summit, but having it in 2020 instead of 17 years early, everybody is fully dressed, there are no crayons and the PM, Premiers and health ministers meet twice a week so that they have a unity of purpose in the National interest.
It was convened specifically for the corona virus response.

Well. Pubs and clubs to close, take-away only, schools to stay open…

Divine Angel said:

Well. Pubs and clubs to close, take-away only, schools to stay open…

Still waiting on the Victorian list of what is “essential” and can continue to trade.

Peak Warming Man said:

Rule 303 said:

buffy said:

So I imagine plumbers and electricians would be able to continue to work. This will affect retail more than anything else really.

Not if they buy supplies, which many of them do every day.

I tell ya the other day this Japanese bloke jumped out from behind a tree and yelled supplies, don’t know what that was all about.

I’m trying to remember where I first heard that joke, but I can’t.

Pretty sure it wasn’t here.

buffy said:

Divine Angel said:

Well. Pubs and clubs to close, take-away only, schools to stay open…

Still waiting on the Victorian list of what is “essential” and can continue to trade.

Bottle shops, apparently. People are already starting to panic buy booze.

Divine Angel said:

buffy said:

Divine Angel said:

Well. Pubs and clubs to close, take-away only, schools to stay open…

Still waiting on the Victorian list of what is “essential” and can continue to trade.

Bottle shops, apparently. People are already starting to panic buy booze.

imagine the panic-buying of education that would happen if schools were actually to close

The AFL calls a halt to games until at least May 31 in response to the coronavirus outbreak, but the NRL says it is proceeding until told to stop.

I think one competition has got quite a bit more cash lying around than the other.

Divine Angel said:

Well. Pubs and clubs to close, take-away only, schools to stay open…

Including the Rooty Hill RSL?

Divine Angel said:

buffy said:

Divine Angel said:

Well. Pubs and clubs to close, take-away only, schools to stay open…

Still waiting on the Victorian list of what is “essential” and can continue to trade.

Bottle shops, apparently. People are already starting to panic buy booze.

I have to say, that’s pathetic.

sibeen said:

The AFL calls a halt to games until at least May 31 in response to the coronavirus outbreak, but the NRL says it is proceeding until told to stop.

I think one competition has got quite a bit more cash lying around than the other.

so much for the fabric of society for hundreds of years.

Divine Angel said:

buffy said:

Divine Angel said:

Well. Pubs and clubs to close, take-away only, schools to stay open…

Still waiting on the Victorian list of what is “essential” and can continue to trade.

Bottle shops, apparently. People are already starting to panic buy booze.

Scummo just said bottle-os can stay open from what I could tell.

Peak Warming Man said:

Divine Angel said:

Well. Pubs and clubs to close, take-away only, schools to stay open…

Including the Rooty Hill RSL?

closed and fumigated.

sibeen said:

The AFL calls a halt to games until at least May 31 in response to the coronavirus outbreak, but the NRL says it is proceeding until told to stop.

I think one competition has got quite a bit more cash lying around than the other.

Archery has stopped for Australia.

Scomo has been across a few channels now, what he said was pretty straightforward and understandable but you wouldn’t know it from the media.

Peak Warming Man said:

Divine Angel said:

Well. Pubs and clubs to close, take-away only, schools to stay open…

Including the Rooty Hill RSL?

I believe that is being demolished, dug out to a depth a 18m. and then backfilled with concrete.

ChrispenEvan said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Divine Angel said:

Well. Pubs and clubs to close, take-away only, schools to stay open…

Including the Rooty Hill RSL?

closed and fumigated.

They found Mold so it will have to be demolished.

ChrispenEvan said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Divine Angel said:

Well. Pubs and clubs to close, take-away only, schools to stay open…

Including the Rooty Hill RSL?

closed and fumigated.

First time ever.

AwesomeO said:

Scomo has been across a few channels now, what he said was pretty straightforward and understandable but you wouldn’t know it from the media.

yep, all fake news and a hostile media.

poikilotherm said:

Divine Angel said:

buffy said:

Still waiting on the Victorian list of what is “essential” and can continue to trade.

Bottle shops, apparently. People are already starting to panic buy booze.

Scummo just said bottle-os can stay open from what I could tell.

Yep, the idea is to avoid gatherings and socialising, beer sales at woolies etc still on. So long as the breweries are still on I suppose.

sibeen said:

ChrispenEvan said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Including the Rooty Hill RSL?

closed and fumigated.

First time ever.

there is a first time for almost everything.

AwesomeO said:

poikilotherm said:

Divine Angel said:

Bottle shops, apparently. People are already starting to panic buy booze.

Scummo just said bottle-os can stay open from what I could tell.

Yep, the idea is to avoid gatherings and socialising, beer sales at woolies etc still on. So long as the breweries are still on I suppose.

Some of them might be converted into making alcohol for sanitizer perhaps?

party_pants said:

AwesomeO said:

poikilotherm said:

Scummo just said bottle-os can stay open from what I could tell.

Yep, the idea is to avoid gatherings and socialising, beer sales at woolies etc still on. So long as the breweries are still on I suppose.

Some of them might be converted into making alcohol for sanitizer perhaps?

scotland has proposed this great idea if it is compatable.

ChrispenEvan said:

AwesomeO said:

Scomo has been across a few channels now, what he said was pretty straightforward and understandable but you wouldn’t know it from the media.

yep, all fake news and a hostile media.

true, imagine if the experts actually had a straightforward, clear and understandable message about this pandemic, and had been repeating it for weeks

ChrispenEvan said:

AwesomeO said:

Scomo has been across a few channels now, what he said was pretty straightforward and understandable but you wouldn’t know it from the media.

yep, all fake news and a hostile media.

Not so much hostile as uncomprehending. Like the guards scene in Monty python and the holy grail.

AwesomeO said:

poikilotherm said:

Divine Angel said:

Bottle shops, apparently. People are already starting to panic buy booze.

Scummo just said bottle-os can stay open from what I could tell.

Yep, the idea is to avoid gatherings and socialising, beer sales at woolies etc still on. So long as the breweries are still on I suppose.

In Qld you can’t buy alcohol at Colesworth type places.

party_pants said:

AwesomeO said:

poikilotherm said:

Scummo just said bottle-os can stay open from what I could tell.

Yep, the idea is to avoid gatherings and socialising, beer sales at woolies etc still on. So long as the breweries are still on I suppose.

Some of them might be converted into making alcohol for sanitizer perhaps?

As long as its not the line that does Abbottsford Invalid Stout then I doubt any on this forum could care, eh.

SCIENCE said:

ChrispenEvan said:

AwesomeO said:

Scomo has been across a few channels now, what he said was pretty straightforward and understandable but you wouldn’t know it from the media.

yep, all fake news and a hostile media.

true, imagine if the experts actually had a straightforward, clear and understandable message about this pandemic, and had been repeating it for weeks

wouldn’t it be nice…and they then wonder why people don’;t believe them when they do give good advice. little boy blue and all that jazz.

ChrispenEvan said:

party_pants said:

AwesomeO said:

Yep, the idea is to avoid gatherings and socialising, beer sales at woolies etc still on. So long as the breweries are still on I suppose.

Some of them might be converted into making alcohol for sanitizer perhaps?

scotland has proposed this great idea if it is compatable.

Don’t they already do that?

And this is only stage 1! Wonder what stage 2 holds.

Although he said schools should stay open til end of term, I think I will spend tomorrow doing up some lesson plans for Mini Me. The school was kind enough to provide resources for online learning, including the curriculum.

Luckily, my non-mathematical brain can handle her maths lessons…

sibeen said:

party_pants said:

AwesomeO said:

Yep, the idea is to avoid gatherings and socialising, beer sales at woolies etc still on. So long as the breweries are still on I suppose.

Some of them might be converted into making alcohol for sanitizer perhaps?

As long as its not the line that does Abbottsford Invalid Stout then I doubt any on this forum could care, eh.

I think they only want good quality alcohol.

sibeen said:

ChrispenEvan said:

party_pants said:

Some of them might be converted into making alcohol for sanitizer perhaps?

scotland has proposed this great idea if it is compatable.

Don’t they already do that?

i don’t know. maybe it is a ramping up of supplies.

Peak Warming Man said:

AwesomeO said:

poikilotherm said:

Scummo just said bottle-os can stay open from what I could tell.

Yep, the idea is to avoid gatherings and socialising, beer sales at woolies etc still on. So long as the breweries are still on I suppose.

In Qld you can’t buy alcohol at Colesworth type places.

Drive through only then or from the counter, straight in, straight out.

ChrispenEvan said:

sibeen said:

party_pants said:

Some of them might be converted into making alcohol for sanitizer perhaps?

As long as its not the line that does Abbottsford Invalid Stout then I doubt any on this forum could care, eh.

I think they only want good quality alcohol.

Hehe.

sibeen said:

party_pants said:

AwesomeO said:

Yep, the idea is to avoid gatherings and socialising, beer sales at woolies etc still on. So long as the breweries are still on I suppose.

Some of them might be converted into making alcohol for sanitizer perhaps?

As long as its not the line that does Abbottsford Invalid Stout then I doubt any on this forum could care, eh.

I think you and I should be invited onto the committee which chooses the lines that stay in production and those that close; as subject matter experts.

Divine Angel said:

And this is only stage 1! Wonder what stage 2 holds.

Although he said schools should stay open til end of term, I think I will spend tomorrow doing up some lesson plans for Mini Me. The school was kind enough to provide resources for online learning, including the curriculum.

Luckily, my non-mathematical brain can handle her maths lessons…

you have sibeen for the more complex stuff. calculus and tensors etc.

AwesomeO said:

Peak Warming Man said:

AwesomeO said:

Yep, the idea is to avoid gatherings and socialising, beer sales at woolies etc still on. So long as the breweries are still on I suppose.

In Qld you can’t buy alcohol at Colesworth type places.

Drive through only then or from the counter, straight in, straight out.

Well there is still Dan Murphy type places, BWS etc….

The Rev Dodgson said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Rule 303 said:

Not if they buy supplies, which many of them do every day.

I tell ya the other day this Japanese bloke jumped out from behind a tree and yelled supplies, don’t know what that was all about.

I’m trying to remember where I first heard that joke, but I can’t.

Pretty sure it wasn’t here.

I’m Sorry I’ll Read That Again, fourth series, the 13-part serial The Curse of the Flying Wombat, 1967. I could probably find the date that joke was first broadcast, but ICBF.

Divine Angel said:

I see the PM is still saying schools should remain open, but it’s up to the National Cabinet. So, um, what is the National Cabinet?

Effectively COAG.

party_pants said:

sibeen said:

party_pants said:

Some of them might be converted into making alcohol for sanitizer perhaps?

As long as its not the line that does Abbottsford Invalid Stout then I doubt any on this forum could care, eh.

I think you and I should be invited onto the committee which chooses the lines that stay in production and those that close; as subject matter experts.

There may be complaints from the hoi polloi, but fuck em.

Divine Angel said:

buffy said:

Divine Angel said:

Well. Pubs and clubs to close, take-away only, schools to stay open…

Still waiting on the Victorian list of what is “essential” and can continue to trade.

Bottle shops, apparently. People are already starting to panic buy booze.

Bogans with unwiped bums brawling over the goonboxes.

It occurs to me that there might be a subset of the younger population who, despite being constantly on their phones, are not actually up to date on this thing. If you are too busy socializing etc, you could, conceivably, not have caught up on the social distancing thing and still be pubbing and clubbing etc.

Peak Warming Man said:

AwesomeO said:

poikilotherm said:

Scummo just said bottle-os can stay open from what I could tell.

Yep, the idea is to avoid gatherings and socialising, beer sales at woolies etc still on. So long as the breweries are still on I suppose.

In Qld you can’t buy alcohol at Colesworth type places.

Cowsdollop.

There’s always a BWS or Liquorland within a tennis ball’s throw.

sibeen said:

party_pants said:

sibeen said:

As long as its not the line that does Abbottsford Invalid Stout then I doubt any on this forum could care, eh.

I think you and I should be invited onto the committee which chooses the lines that stay in production and those that close; as subject matter experts.

There may be complaints from the hoi polloi, but fuck em.

… I’m gunna need a lot of PPE for that.

btm said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Peak Warming Man said:

I tell ya the other day this Japanese bloke jumped out from behind a tree and yelled supplies, don’t know what that was all about.

I’m trying to remember where I first heard that joke, but I can’t.

Pretty sure it wasn’t here.

I’m Sorry I’ll Read That Again, fourth series, the 13-part serial The Curse of the Flying Wombat, 1967. I could probably find the date that joke was first broadcast, but ICBF.

Had a go, but gave up.

buffy said:

It occurs to me that there might be a subset of the younger population who, despite being constantly on their phones, are not actually up to date on this thing. If you are too busy socializing etc, you could, conceivably, not have caught up on the social distancing thing and still be pubbing and clubbing etc.

we thought the people who subscribed to that “this is just panic, miracles will happen” bullshit were angry old cisgender white males

https://www.who.int/gpsc/5may/Guide_to_Local_Production.pdf

The NRL will almost certainly be shut down if the Sharks lose again next week.

Peak Warming Man said:

The NRL will almost certainly be shut down if the Sharks lose again next week.

Is that one of the teams?

SCIENCE said:

buffy said:

It occurs to me that there might be a subset of the younger population who, despite being constantly on their phones, are not actually up to date on this thing. If you are too busy socializing etc, you could, conceivably, not have caught up on the social distancing thing and still be pubbing and clubbing etc.

we thought the people who subscribed to that “this is just panic, miracles will happen” bullshit were angry old cisgender white males

a lot of people become immune to news, hardly surprising really. For some, many perhaps, the need to get much reality from news would sort of require some poverty in their life, not financial poverty, it’d result in an impoverishment in the personal dimension getting much reality that way. So it’s possible when something really serious comes along they won’t really see it, not early. Many of them have full lives, they’re not there on the sofa, TV going, waiting to hear of some misfortune somewhere, they may in fact be able to imagine misfortune, that lots of it is happening, but they’re not attracted to it. They’re certainly not waiting for announcement of the apocalypse

sibeen said:

Peak Warming Man said:

The NRL will almost certainly be shut down if the Sharks lose again next week.

Is that one of the teams?

Yes, centred in the division of Cook.

Peak Warming Man said:

sibeen said:

Peak Warming Man said:

The NRL will almost certainly be shut down if the Sharks lose again next week.

Is that one of the teams?

Yes, centred in the division of Cook.

Is that somewhere in NSW?

sibeen said:

Peak Warming Man said:

sibeen said:

Is that one of the teams?

Yes, centred in the division of Cook.

Is that somewhere in NSW?

Could be.

transition said:

SCIENCE said:

buffy said:

It occurs to me that there might be a subset of the younger population who, despite being constantly on their phones, are not actually up to date on this thing. If you are too busy socializing etc, you could, conceivably, not have caught up on the social distancing thing and still be pubbing and clubbing etc.

we thought the people who subscribed to that “this is just panic, miracles will happen” bullshit were angry old cisgender white males

a lot of people become immune to news, hardly surprising really. For some, many perhaps, the need to get much reality from news would sort of require some poverty in their life, not financial poverty, it’d result in an impoverishment in the personal dimension getting much reality that way. So it’s possible when something really serious comes along they won’t really see it, not early. Many of them have full lives, they’re not there on the sofa, TV going, waiting to hear of some misfortune somewhere, they may in fact be able to imagine misfortune, that lots of it is happening, but they’re not attracted to it. They’re certainly not waiting for announcement of the apocalypse

Yep, the forum is certainly not representative of the general population, news is devoured here.

“How many coronavirus cases are there in Australia now?
The current total is 1,354.

Here’s the breakdown by state.

NSW: 533
Victoria: 296
Queensland: 259
Western Australia: 120
South Australia: 100
Tasmania: 22
Australian Capital Territory: 19
Northern Territory: 5

The figures come from state and territory databases of confirmed COVID-19 cases. The latest update was at 6:35pm AEST on Saturday, March 21. “

I think they meant Sunday, March 22.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-22/coronavirus-australia-stimulus-live-updates-covid-19-latest-news/12078506

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This is up about 300 cases from yesterday, mid-arvo:

“Australian coronavirus cases pass 1,000
There are 1,051 confirmed cases of COVID-19 in Australia.

Here is a state-by-state breakdown of confirmed coronavirus cases:

NSW: 436 (six deaths)
Victoria: 229
Queensland: 221
WA: 90 (one death)
SA: 50
Tasmania: 11
ACT: 9
NT: 5
The figures come from state and territory databases of confirmed COVID-19 cases. The latest update was at 2:30pm AEDT on Saturday, March 21.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-21/coronavirus-australia-live-updates-covid-19-latest-news-march-21/12076884