It’s Estimated 1 in 4 Coronavirus Carriers Could Be Asymptomatic
https://www.sciencealert.com/here-s-what-we-know-so-far-about-those-who-can-pass-corona-without-symptoms

You may be able to spread coronavirus just by breathing, new report finds
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/you-may-be-able-spread-coronavirus-just-breathing-new-report-finds

How important is speech in transmitting coronavirus?
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/04/200403162709.htm

Wearing surgical masks in public could help slow COVID-19 pandemic’s advance
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/04/200403132345.htm

Coronavirus: Expert panel to assess face mask use by public
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-52126735

People who are asymptomatic can have the virus and not know it transmit it to other people who will unknowingly spread it etc the virus can transfer through small aerosol mist in speech.

We might have to start wearing masks in supermarkets etc

Is anybody wearing gloves in supermarkets?

Tau.Neutrino said:

Is anybody wearing gloves in supermarkets?

Some people are. I went to Spudshed yestingday and many of the staff were wearing gloves, both those stocking the shelves and those working the tills.

ChrispenEvan said:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HLrm0pqBN_5bdyysOeoOBX4pt4oFDBhsC_jpblXpNtQ/preview

Papers about effectiveness of basic masks #masks4all
Curated by Jeremy Howard and the fast.ai community. Summaries by Reshama Shaikh. The papers below have been used to create a video, and a newspaper article, summarizing the utility of basic masks. In summary: everyone should wear masks, which they should make themselves using t-shirts and/or paper towels, whenever they go out in public. I’ve also made a little summary on Twitter of the video, and a summary of the article.

SCIENCE said:

from ChrispenEvan referral

look, we’ve been supporting more masking for“ever” so we are as biased as we are as teachers and online educators in promoting school closure

but the reasoning seems good, including

• healthcare workers wear masks so you’d hope there’s evidence behind this
• masks prevent transmission even before symptoms, when people may still be contagious
• data as screenshot above
• what’s more, the population density in those places is HIGH
• cynically thinking, the advice may be also to preserve mask supplies for healthcare settings
• they also remind you to not touch your face

…

that said, “community (local unknown source) transmission” in AUS has been low to date, so they might not contribute “much” but maybe you should wait for someone less biased than us

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

The US and Israel are already urging their citizens to wear masks outside. “

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-02/coronavirus-live-blog-updates-covid-19-australia/12112584

pretty sure we all knew this and the hold up was more about conserving masks and hoping not to have to change…

SCIENCE said:

imagine all the medical folks who wouldn’t have to deal with an overwhelming pandemic if people wore masks to protect themselves…

“We also now have evidence that an infected person can show no symptoms and yet still pass on the virus to others,” he said, adding that the World Health Organization and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in the United States are reviewing the usage of face masks.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid19-decisive-move-workplaces-closed-lee-hsien-loong-12606614

Tau.Neutrino said:

Is anybody wearing gloves in supermarkets?

I’ve seen people wearing disposable gloves while shopping. It’s a bit pointless really. You just get the gloves contaminated instead of your fingers. It’s not like they are changing their gloves after each shop.

party_pants said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Is anybody wearing gloves in supermarkets?

Some people are. I went to Spudshed yestingday and many of the staff were wearing gloves, both those stocking the shelves and those working the tills.

I use the sanitiser provided when I go into a store and use whipes on my hands when I get back in my car.

buffy said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Is anybody wearing gloves in supermarkets?

I’ve seen people wearing disposable gloves while shopping. It’s a bit pointless really. You just get the gloves contaminated instead of your fingers. It’s not like they are changing their gloves after each shop.

This.

buffy said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Is anybody wearing gloves in supermarkets?

I’ve seen people wearing disposable gloves while shopping. It’s a bit pointless really. You just get the gloves contaminated instead of your fingers. It’s not like they are changing their gloves after each shop.

You still have to maintain the same self-discipline about not touching your hand to your face until after you get home and washed your hands.

Speedy said:

buffy said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Is anybody wearing gloves in supermarkets?

I’ve seen people wearing disposable gloves while shopping. It’s a bit pointless really. You just get the gloves contaminated instead of your fingers. It’s not like they are changing their gloves after each shop.

This.

maybe they’re antiseptic gloves

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVXLaHu1T84

Eric Weinstein Says Mask Misinformation is “Deadly Nonsense”

sibeen said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVXLaHu1T84

Eric Weinstein Says Mask Misinformation is “Deadly Nonsense”

What Did Harvey Say

SCIENCE said:

sibeen said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVXLaHu1T84

Eric Weinstein Says Mask Misinformation is “Deadly Nonsense”

What Did Harvey Say

Come here & I’ll help you put it on.

SCIENCE said:

Speedy said:

buffy said:

I’ve seen people wearing disposable gloves while shopping. It’s a bit pointless really. You just get the gloves contaminated instead of your fingers. It’s not like they are changing their gloves after each shop.

This.

maybe they’re antiseptic gloves

I looked up antiseptic gloves. They seem to be anti bacterial, not anti virus. And they are pretty specific surgical gloves. What I’ve seen people wearing are, as far as I can tell, just the usual disposables you can buy in the supey.

SCIENCE said:

Speedy said:

buffy said:

I’ve seen people wearing disposable gloves while shopping. It’s a bit pointless really. You just get the gloves contaminated instead of your fingers. It’s not like they are changing their gloves after each shop.

This.

maybe they’re antiseptic gloves

Sure, not everyone likes Americans

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

Speedy said:

This.

maybe they’re antiseptic gloves

Sure, not everyone likes Americans

or Skeptik Tanc but haven’t seen that fella around for ages

>You may be able to spread coronavirus just by breathing, new report finds

of course you get it from swapping air, sure a breathing on a mirror turns up moisture

fortunately in Australia we aren’t as president-worshipping as those USAsians and our healthcare workers are actually wearing masks

transition said:

>You may be able to spread coronavirus just by breathing, new report finds

of course you get it from swapping air, sure a breathing on a mirror turns up moisture

imagine that

breaking news, people who are alive are more likely to spread virus than people who are dead

transition said:

>You may be able to spread coronavirus just by breathing, new report finds

of course you get it from swapping air, sure a as breathing on a mirror turns up moisture

sibeen said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVXLaHu1T84

Eric Weinstein Says Mask Misinformation is “Deadly Nonsense”

Another one for revolution.

> We might have to start wearing masks in supermarkets etc

I already am. Not for me, I know I’m in the clear, but to reassure cashiers and other shoppers.

Not those awful medical masks, though. A mask has to be a fashion statement. I have three home-made ones.

I have a half giant-bandana mask made from a large right angle triangle, I sent you a photo of that already. I also have a very cleverly designed mask that provides a shortening across the philtrum to stop excessive pressure on western-style noses.

I find the material jersey interlock to be perfect. It’s stretch, so fits fairly tightly over both mouth and nose. It’s a very fine knit single layer so is breathable, it stops particulates while allowing air through.

The three mask designs. From top to bottom skimpy, bandana, and clever.

This is my skimpy mask.

mollwollfumble said:

> We might have to start wearing masks in supermarkets etc

I already am. Not for me, I know I’m in the clear, but to reassure cashiers and other shoppers.

Not those awful medical masks, though. A mask has to be a fashion statement. I have three home-made ones.

I have a half giant-bandana mask made from a large right angle triangle, I sent you a photo of that already. I also have a very cleverly designed mask that provides a shortening across the philtrum to stop excessive pressure on western-style noses.

I find the material jersey interlock to be perfect. It’s stretch, so fits fairly tightly over both mouth and nose. It’s a very fine knit single layer so is breathable, it stops particulates while allowing air through.

The three mask designs. From top to bottom skimpy, bandana, and clever.

This is my skimpy mask.

Being Jersey interlock it doesn’t need edging of any kind, so just cut it out and put it on.