Just spoke to a nurse over the phone going over my 6 monthly health plan.

I said I was wearing wool mittens going shopping.

she said that was not a good idea because the wool can hold bacteria and viruses.

ok.

and advised to clean hands before and after shopping using a hand sanitizer in the car.

ok, I’ll get in the habit of doing that.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Just spoke to a nurse over the phone going over my 6 monthly health plan.

I said I was wearing wool mittens going shopping.

she said that was not a good idea because the wool can hold bacteria and viruses.

ok.

and advised to clean hands before and after shopping using a hand sanitizer in the car.

ok, I’ll get in the habit of doing that.

You should probably be staying at home. But if you do go out you could add showering and changing clothes on return home too.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Just spoke to a nurse over the phone going over my 6 monthly health plan.

I said I was wearing wool mittens going shopping.

she said that was not a good idea because the wool can hold bacteria and viruses.

ok.

and advised to clean hands before and after shopping using a hand sanitizer in the car.

ok, I’ll get in the habit of doing that.

Management here sent around a message, in response to a query from staff member, saying don’t worry, all of the cars (50 of them) in our car pool would be provided with hand sanitiser.

Someone from Pharmacy came up and wanted to know where we’d got all that sanitiser.

I pointed to the 2/3 bottle on the counter, and said, ‘there’s our entire stock’.

No supplies of sanitiser yet received, and we’re not holding our breath waiting for it.

sarahs mum said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Just spoke to a nurse over the phone going over my 6 monthly health plan.

I said I was wearing wool mittens going shopping.

she said that was not a good idea because the wool can hold bacteria and viruses.

ok.

and advised to clean hands before and after shopping using a hand sanitizer in the car.

ok, I’ll get in the habit of doing that.

You should probably be staying at home. But if you do go out you could add showering and changing clothes on return home too.

And burn those contaminated clothes.

sarahs mum said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Just spoke to a nurse over the phone going over my 6 monthly health plan.

I said I was wearing wool mittens going shopping.

she said that was not a good idea because the wool can hold bacteria and viruses.

ok.

and advised to clean hands before and after shopping using a hand sanitizer in the car.

ok, I’ll get in the habit of doing that.

You should probably be staying at home. But if you do go out you could add showering and changing clothes on return home too.

Yes, travellers on planes from overseas should think about doing that as well.

Ill think Ill get into the habit of supermarket delivery and order online

I think IGA have that option

Tau.Neutrino said:

sarahs mum said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Just spoke to a nurse over the phone going over my 6 monthly health plan.

I said I was wearing wool mittens going shopping.

she said that was not a good idea because the wool can hold bacteria and viruses.

ok.

and advised to clean hands before and after shopping using a hand sanitizer in the car.

ok, I’ll get in the habit of doing that.

You should probably be staying at home. But if you do go out you could add showering and changing clothes on return home too.

Yes, travellers on planes from overseas should think about doing that as well.

Ill think Ill get into the habit of supermarket delivery and order online

I think IGA have that option

My IGA is a click and collect. Order and pay on line. And you can ring to say you are ready to pick it up and they will bring it out to the car here.

Woolies and Coles are doing limited deliveries. It doesn’t include me and I am not happy Jan.

sarahs mum said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

sarahs mum said:

You should probably be staying at home. But if you do go out you could add showering and changing clothes on return home too.

Yes, travellers on planes from overseas should think about doing that as well.

Ill think Ill get into the habit of supermarket delivery and order online

I think IGA have that option

My IGA is a click and collect. Order and pay on line. And you can ring to say you are ready to pick it up and they will bring it out to the car here.

Woolies and Coles are doing limited deliveries. It doesn’t include me and I am not happy Jan.

Perhaps if you rang around informing them you are one of the more vulnerable and see what is available. There are lots of stories of people that have spent a long time filling out the online order form to find out there is no service.

sarahs mum said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

sarahs mum said:

You should probably be staying at home. But if you do go out you could add showering and changing clothes on return home too.

Yes, travellers on planes from overseas should think about doing that as well.

Ill think Ill get into the habit of supermarket delivery and order online

I think IGA have that option

My IGA is a click and collect. Order and pay on line. And you can ring to say you are ready to pick it up and they will bring it out to the car here.

Woolies and Coles are doing limited deliveries. It doesn’t include me and I am not happy Jan.

Online shopping seems more hygienic

The IGA supermarket here can have more than 20 workers at any one time plus twenty + shoppers there at anyone time and wool worths in Ballarat can have hundreds of shoppers at peak times

Removing oneself from that seems a good idea.

Safer for workers, safer for shoppers.

I was just listening to JJJ hack It appears that the owners of the virus-hit cruise ship Ruby Princess failed to clean the ship properly before new passengers.

Hygiene in ships not carried out properly has serious implications for new passengers.

There is a class action happening.

Hand sanitizers at ATMs

Tau.Neutrino said:

Hand sanitizers at ATMs

or a self cleaning ATM keyboard

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Hand sanitizers at ATMs

or a self cleaning ATM keyboard

Employ toilet guys to shake it for you wearing gloves of course

Cymek said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Hand sanitizers at ATMs

or a self cleaning ATM keyboard

Employ toilet guys to shake it for you wearing gloves of course

I was thinking banks biuld in hand sanitizers into ATMs

people do the banking then they can clean their hands.

Top 4 things to prevent catching coronavirus in the supermarket

1 online shopping Yes good idea

2 wash hands a lot should be wash hands in the car before and after shopping very good idea

3 are people going to bother wiping down trollies? Do they mean the handle Yes wipe the handle if possible good idea but may breed super bugs. . Dont touch items in the supermarkets unless for purchase, Very good idea. no touching things only for buying

4 wash fruit and vegies when home. Most people already do this very good idea

Coronavirus expert explains why soap is better than hand sanitizer

Driverless delivery cars look very good right now.

Nuro’s driverless delivery cars are cleared for testing in California

This portable UV sanitizer eliminates the germs on your smartphone

Stanford’s smart toilet scans human waste for signs of disease

ABC – How to get groceries without bringing home coronavirus

Tau.Neutrino said:

ABC – How to get groceries without bringing home coronavirus

https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2020-03-20/how-long-does-coronavirus-last-on-surfaces/12074330

Are we allowed to clean money at home?

Bank notes and coins, any recommendations?

Tau.Neutrino said:

Are we allowed to clean money at home?

Bank notes and coins, any recommendations?

warm soapy water, or water with dishwashing liquid.

party_pants said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Are we allowed to clean money at home?

Bank notes and coins, any recommendations?

warm soapy water, or water with dishwashing liquid.

Or metho.

Michael V said:

party_pants said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Are we allowed to clean money at home?

Bank notes and coins, any recommendations?

warm soapy water, or water with dishwashing liquid.

Or metho.

Microwave them for a minute of so

Cymek said:

Michael V said:

party_pants said:

warm soapy water, or water with dishwashing liquid.

Or metho.

Microwave them for a minute of so

can you not just spray it with glen20 or something

Arts said:

Cymek said:

Michael V said:

Or metho.

Microwave them for a minute of so

can you not just spray it with glen20 or something

Wash then straight into a clean zip plastic bag

Arts said:

Cymek said:

Michael V said:

Or metho.

Microwave them for a minute of so

can you not just spray it with glen20 or something

Is Glen20 a virucide?

Tau.Neutrino said:

Are we allowed to clean money at home?

Bank notes and coins, any recommendations?

There are various ways to launder your money.

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/beginners-guide-to-money-laundering-2014-10

Michael V said:

Arts said:

Cymek said:

Microwave them for a minute of so

can you not just spray it with glen20 or something

Is Glen20 a virucide?

Yes, but you basically have to saturate the item with Glen 20.

Michael V said:

Arts said:

Cymek said:

Microwave them for a minute of so

can you not just spray it with glen20 or something

Is Glen20 a virucide?

he spiel goes. Glen 20 All-In-One Disinfectant Spray Original is a surface spray disinfectant – hospital grade that kills 99.9% viruses, germs and bacteria.

Divine Angel said:

Michael V said:

Arts said:

can you not just spray it with glen20 or something

Is Glen20 a virucide?

Yes, but you basically have to saturate the item with Glen 20.

or your own fingers.

Arts said:

Michael V said:

Arts said:

can you not just spray it with glen20 or something

Is Glen20 a virucide?

he spiel goes. Glen 20 All-In-One Disinfectant Spray Original is a surface spray disinfectant – hospital grade that kills 99.9% viruses, germs and bacteria.

This morning in Coles, only the lavender scented Glen 20 was available.

Arts said:

Divine Angel said:

Michael V said:

Is Glen20 a virucide?

Yes, but you basically have to saturate the item with Glen 20.

or your own fingers.

What if you saturate your fingers with Glen 20 then stick your fingers up,your nose?

Divine Angel said:

Arts said:

Divine Angel said:

Yes, but you basically have to saturate the item with Glen 20.

or your own fingers.

What if you saturate your fingers with Glen 20 then stick your fingers up,your nose?

I’ve heard that if you can smell it, you probably don’t have the virus.

After cleaning money, straight into a clean zip plastic bag.

Tau.Neutrino said:

After cleaning money, straight into a clean zip plastic bag.

Is this for someone

Cymek said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

After cleaning money, straight into a clean zip plastic bag.

Is this for someone

tips to keep transfer minimal

Tau.Neutrino said:

After cleaning money, straight into a clean zip plastic bag.

Lots of shops aren’t taking cash right now. For example, newsagents and my local servo.

Divine Angel said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

After cleaning money, straight into a clean zip plastic bag.

Lots of shops aren’t taking cash right now. For example, newsagents and my local servo.

Yes noticed that, Superauto has click and collect, no cash, but you can use your card to tap and go.

I like click and collect.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Cymek said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

After cleaning money, straight into a clean zip plastic bag.

Is this for someone

tips to keep transfer minimal

You might know it’s clean but others may still refuse it.
We are pretty safe in Australia with such things I imagine

Cymek said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

After cleaning money, straight into a clean zip plastic bag.

Is this for someone

delivering cash by drone to a hitman to take out George Pell by spreading the virus into his hotel via the toilet pipes.

Cymek said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Cymek said:

Is this for someone

tips to keep transfer minimal

You might know it’s clean but others may still refuse it.
We are pretty safe in Australia with such things I imagine

I have a card if shops refuse money, Its easy to understand that.

Coles Wollies have tap and go, I like that as well.

No pushing numbers in.

party_pants said:

Cymek said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

After cleaning money, straight into a clean zip plastic bag.

Is this for someone

delivering cash by drone to a hitman to take out George Pell by spreading the virus into his hotel via the toilet pipes.

Viruses can spread in sewage systems…..

Tau.Neutrino said:

party_pants said:

Cymek said:

Is this for someone

delivering cash by drone to a hitman to take out George Pell by spreading the virus into his hotel via the toilet pipes.

Viruses can spread in sewage systems…..

Like budgies

Neophyte said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

party_pants said:

delivering cash by drone to a hitman to take out George Pell by spreading the virus into his hotel via the toilet pipes.

Viruses can spread in sewage systems…..

Like budgies

Mrs Conclusion: yes, they breed in the sewers!

Tau.Neutrino said:

Cymek said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

tips to keep transfer minimal

You might know it’s clean but others may still refuse it.
We are pretty safe in Australia with such things I imagine

I have a card if shops refuse money, Its easy to understand that.

Coles Wollies have tap and go, I like that as well.

No pushing numbers in.

some of the shops have increased the min for tap and go to $200.

Does tap and go work with an fpos card?

Arts said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Cymek said:

You might know it’s clean but others may still refuse it.
We are pretty safe in Australia with such things I imagine

I have a card if shops refuse money, Its easy to understand that.

Coles Wollies have tap and go, I like that as well.

No pushing numbers in.

some of the shops have increased the min for tap and go to $200.

WHAT

Arts said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Cymek said:

You might know it’s clean but others may still refuse it.
We are pretty safe in Australia with such things I imagine

I have a card if shops refuse money, Its easy to understand that.

Coles Wollies have tap and go, I like that as well.

No pushing numbers in.

some of the shops have increased the min for tap and go to $200.

Not around here. I went to three shops today and used paypass, did not spend $200 combined.

party_pants said:

Arts said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

I have a card if shops refuse money, Its easy to understand that.

Coles Wollies have tap and go, I like that as well.

No pushing numbers in.

some of the shops have increased the min for tap and go to $200.

Not around here. I went to three shops today and used paypass, did not spend $200 combined.

Arts said:

party_pants said:

Arts said:

some of the shops have increased the min for tap and go to $200.

Not around here. I went to three shops today and used paypass, did not spend $200 combined.

ok. sorry. the max… as in you used to only be able to tap and go up to $100. now it is $200. sorry for the confusion.

Arts said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Cymek said:

You might know it’s clean but others may still refuse it.
We are pretty safe in Australia with such things I imagine

I have a card if shops refuse money, Its easy to understand that.

Coles Wollies have tap and go, I like that as well.

No pushing numbers in.

some of the shops have increased the min for tap and go to $200.

Greedy, I think, I’d like to see instant transfer of money, no held or pending.

then the shops are better off.

Arts said:

Arts said:

party_pants said:

Not around here. I went to three shops today and used paypass, did not spend $200 combined.

ok. sorry. the max… as in you used to only be able to tap and go up to $100. now it is $200. sorry for the confusion.

ok.

Arts said:

Arts said:

party_pants said:

Not around here. I went to three shops today and used paypass, did not spend $200 combined.

ok. sorry. the max… as in you used to only be able to tap and go up to $100. now it is $200. sorry for the confusion.

geeez, think of us old people, leading us astray and worrying us.

Arts said:

Arts said:

party_pants said:

Not around here. I went to three shops today and used paypass, did not spend $200 combined.

ok. sorry. the max… as in you used to only be able to tap and go up to $100. now it is $200. sorry for the confusion.

Ah. OK then.

ChrispenEvan said:

Arts said:

Arts said:

ok. sorry. the max… as in you used to only be able to tap and go up to $100. now it is $200. sorry for the confusion.

geeez, think of us old people, leading us astray and worrying us.

I’ll speak slower for you and Shebs.

Arts said:

ChrispenEvan said:

Arts said:

ok. sorry. the max… as in you used to only be able to tap and go up to $100. now it is $200. sorry for the confusion.

geeez, think of us old people, leading us astray and worrying us.

I’ll speak slower for you and Shebs.

I have an excuse, i’m from the bush.

Arts said:

Arts said:

party_pants said:

Not around here. I went to three shops today and used paypass, did not spend $200 combined.

ok. sorry. the max… as in you used to only be able to tap and go up to $100. now it is $200. sorry for the confusion.

Yes The limit was raised across the board by the Prudential Regulation Authority (or whoever sets these limits) in response to COVID-19.

Michael V said:

Arts said:

Arts said:

ok. sorry. the max… as in you used to only be able to tap and go up to $100. now it is $200. sorry for the confusion.

Yes The limit was raised across the board by the Prudential Regulation Authority (or whoever sets these limits) in response to COVID-19.

I’m glad we have a Prudential Regulation Authority in this country.

So far no-one has refused cash around here. As there is a preponderance of old farts, quite a few of whom only have cash, the shops have decided that it’s best to take the money. They mostly just have some disposable gloves by the till which they use. The hardware and produce stores have accounts. They all know their clients, so we aren’t signing on the gadgets for purchases at the moment. I have offered to sign – they just say “up to you”. A bit laid back here.

Arts said:

Arts said:

party_pants said:

Not around here. I went to three shops today and used paypass, did not spend $200 combined.

ok. sorry. the max… as in you used to only be able to tap and go up to $100. now it is $200. sorry for the confusion.

Phew.

Divine Angel said:

Arts said:

Arts said:

ok. sorry. the max… as in you used to only be able to tap and go up to $100. now it is $200. sorry for the confusion.

Phew.

Went through this when the server lady who nows me well, my first attempt to tap the card. she said should be fine if it is under 100. She also said they were going to change it to 200 but it is for us still at 100. this was yesterday.

The virusbuster boom Disinfecting services like Enviro-Master are having a moment, but how long will it last?

COVID-19 can spread up to 4 metres

People with the coronavirus can spread the infection as far as 4 metres, a study has found.

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Tau.Neutrino said:

COVID-19 can spread up to 4 metres

People with the coronavirus can spread the infection as far as 4 metres, a study has found.

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SCIENCE said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

COVID-19 can spread up to 4 metres

People with the coronavirus can spread the infection as far as 4 metres, a study has found.

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COVID-19 can spread up to 4 metres

Ultraviolet LEDs prove effective in eliminating coronavirus from surfaces and, potentially, air and water

Researchers are developing ultraviolet LEDs that have the ability to decontaminate surfaces — and potentially air and water — that have come in contact with the SARS-CoV-2 virus.

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Reusable produce bags, washable and reusable.

Cutting down on plastic is easy with these reusable produce bags

Tau.Neutrino said:

Reusable produce bags, washable and reusable.

Cutting down on plastic is easy with these reusable produce bags

Look up “Boomerang Bags”. Volunteers in Australia are doing good stuff – including Mrs V, who has made hundreds of bags.

Paper Towels Could Remove Virus Missed by Poor Hand Washing, Study Indicates

from article

But for 10 out of 11 surfaces sampled, the jet method left “significantly greater environmental contamination”.

Microbes were found on all surfaces touched after using the jet dryer, with contamination on average 10 times higher than after the use of paper towels.

The authors said the study was particularly relevant for hospital settings.

more…

Tau.Neutrino said:

Paper Towels Could Remove Virus Missed by Poor Hand Washing, Study Indicates

from article

But for 10 out of 11 surfaces sampled, the jet method left “significantly greater environmental contamination”.

Microbes were found on all surfaces touched after using the jet dryer, with contamination on average 10 times higher than after the use of paper towels.

The authors said the study was particularly relevant for hospital settings.

more…

Contaminated air is being pulled into the air-dryer

An option would be to use filtered air with washable filters

or have a separate air system for the air dryers

or zap the air with UV

Why couldn’t they test that?

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Paper Towels Could Remove Virus Missed by Poor Hand Washing, Study Indicates

from article

But for 10 out of 11 surfaces sampled, the jet method left “significantly greater environmental contamination”.

Microbes were found on all surfaces touched after using the jet dryer, with contamination on average 10 times higher than after the use of paper towels.

The authors said the study was particularly relevant for hospital settings.

more…

Contaminated air is being pulled into the air-dryer

An option would be to use filtered air with washable filters

or have a separate air system for the air dryers

or zap the air with UV

Why couldn’t they test that?

anyway

who cares

I dont any more.

stupid ideas

Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Paper Towels Could Remove Virus Missed by Poor Hand Washing, Study Indicates

from article

But for 10 out of 11 surfaces sampled, the jet method left “significantly greater environmental contamination”.

Microbes were found on all surfaces touched after using the jet dryer, with contamination on average 10 times higher than after the use of paper towels.

The authors said the study was particularly relevant for hospital settings.

more…

Contaminated air is being pulled into the air-dryer

An option would be to use filtered air with washable filters

or have a separate air system for the air dryers

or zap the air with UV

Why couldn’t they test that?

I’m not sure it is the air being pulled in that is the problem…

Which surfaces in your home are most likely to harbour coronavirus?

Could infectious viral particles be on the parcel that just got delivered? Or the fruit your partner bought home from the supermarket? Or the crosswalk button you pushed out on your daily walk?

Many people are concerned about how the virus could spread, but the good news at this stage is we aren’t seeing any real evidence of transmission from things coming into the home, says virologist Tim Newsome of the University of Sydney.

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