Date: 5/05/2020 15:14:20
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1551451
Subject: Study finds microbes can survive in all-hydrogen atmosphere

No matter how tough we think life is, it continually outdoes expectations. Now a new study from MIT has found that E. coli and yeast can survive in an atmosphere made up of 100 percent hydrogen. And that could have fascinating implications for life on other planets.

In the hunt for alien life, we’re mostly focusing on planets that are the most Earth-like, for obvious reasons. But in doing so we might be limiting ourselves a bit too much. Even without leaving home, microbes have been found living in the hottest and coldest places on Earth, soaring through the upper atmosphere and colonizing rocks half a mile below the seafloor. Tests have even shown some species are fine with the harsh conditions of space itself.

But in spite of that, when it comes to exoplanets we’ve taken a relatively selfish view of habitability. We humans may not be comfortable in the frigid deserts of Mars or the methane lakes of Titan, but that could be some microbe’s idea of paradise. We just have to test it out.

Exoplanets with atmospheres made up of mostly hydrogen have traditionally been written off as uninhabitable, but not much research has been conducted to check whether that is the case.

The researchers exposed E. coli and yeast cultures to atmospheres of 100 percent hydrogen, and to their surprise, the microbes fared just fine. Their reproduction did slow down somewhat, but it didn’t stop them. For E. coli, the rate of reproduction dropped by about half, while the yeast was about 2.5 orders of magnitude slower. According to the team, this was most likely due to the lack of oxygen.

This finding means that we may need to revise the criteria for what constitutes an inhabitable planet. Hydrogen-heavy Super-Earths, for example, may be a good place to start, and conveniently enough they may be easier to spot than other types. That’s because hydrogen atmospheres can swell further out from the surface than others.

Better yet, the team also says that we may already be able to figure out whether any of these planets actually are home to alien life. E. coli and other bacteria are known to produce gases like ammonia, dimethylsulfide, nitrous oxide, and methane. Detecting these in atmospheres otherwise dominated by hydrogen could indicate that there’s something living there.

https://newatlas.com/biology/microbes-survive-all-hydrogen-atmosphere/

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Date: 5/05/2020 15:16:52
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1551452
Subject: re: Study finds microbes can survive in all-hydrogen atmosphere

Have they tested all other types of gases ?

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Date: 5/05/2020 15:52:11
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1551473
Subject: re: Study finds microbes can survive in all-hydrogen atmosphere

Tau.Neutrino said:


Have they tested all other types of gases ?

I think they chose hydrogen because it is reasonably common on other plants and these and possibly other microbes are easily identified as being there. Consequently alien life can be reliably established.

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Date: 5/05/2020 15:53:49
From: dv
ID: 1551475
Subject: re: Study finds microbes can survive in all-hydrogen atmosphere

I mean the first living things on Earth endured an atmosphere that was mainly hydrogen.

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Date: 5/05/2020 15:59:09
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1551480
Subject: re: Study finds microbes can survive in all-hydrogen atmosphere

dv said:


I mean the first living things on Earth endured an atmosphere that was mainly hydrogen.

But if these microbes and possibly others existed at that stage, they would give off distinctive and easily recognisably gases of their own that we can readily recognise from earth.

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Date: 5/05/2020 16:05:48
From: dv
ID: 1551483
Subject: re: Study finds microbes can survive in all-hydrogen atmosphere

PermeateFree said:


dv said:

I mean the first living things on Earth endured an atmosphere that was mainly hydrogen.

But if these microbes and possibly others existed at that stage, they would give off distinctive and easily recognisably gases of their own that we can readily recognise from earth.

Not all life forms even create a gas.

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Date: 5/05/2020 16:12:04
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1551484
Subject: re: Study finds microbes can survive in all-hydrogen atmosphere

dv said:


PermeateFree said:

dv said:

I mean the first living things on Earth endured an atmosphere that was mainly hydrogen.

But if these microbes and possibly others existed at that stage, they would give off distinctive and easily recognisably gases of their own that we can readily recognise from earth.

Not all life forms even create a gas.

I don’t think that is the point, just remember not all critters climb trees either, but you are looking for tree climbing ones, you look in trees.

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Date: 5/05/2020 16:12:54
From: dv
ID: 1551485
Subject: re: Study finds microbes can survive in all-hydrogen atmosphere

PermeateFree said:


dv said:

PermeateFree said:

But if these microbes and possibly others existed at that stage, they would give off distinctive and easily recognisably gases of their own that we can readily recognise from earth.

Not all life forms even create a gas.

I don’t think that is the point, just remember not all critters climb trees either, but you are looking for tree climbing ones, you look in trees.

Well I suppose we are not in disagreement

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Date: 5/05/2020 16:16:33
From: roughbarked
ID: 1551487
Subject: re: Study finds microbes can survive in all-hydrogen atmosphere

dv said:


PermeateFree said:

dv said:

Not all life forms even create a gas.

I don’t think that is the point, just remember not all critters climb trees either, but you are looking for tree climbing ones, you look in trees.

Well I suppose we are not in disagreement

Just a matter of getting the language right. :)

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Date: 5/05/2020 17:06:55
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1551511
Subject: re: Study finds microbes can survive in all-hydrogen atmosphere

dv said:


I mean the first living things on Earth endured an atmosphere that was mainly hydrogen.

It would be interesting to see results from all elements.

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Date: 5/05/2020 19:22:58
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1551620
Subject: re: Study finds microbes can survive in all-hydrogen atmosphere

> The researchers exposed E. coli and yeast cultures to atmospheres of 100 percent hydrogen, and to their surprise, the microbes fared just fine.

Good.

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