Date: 10/05/2020 08:17:59
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1553795
Subject: Neutrino Messaging

This is mostly here just for discussion because this is waaaaaaay above the limit of my smarts.

Last night, we watched a movie called The Hummingbird Project, about a couple of guys building a fibre between Kansas and New York Stock Exchange in order to get stock market transactions milliseconds faster than their competitors (and old boss).

At the end of the film, the head geek was talking about neutrino messaging, which could theoretically take even fewer milliseconds to reach its destination.

Here’s what I found from a well-known search engine:
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21328574-900-neutrinos-send-wireless-message-through-the-earth/
(This article was published around the same time as the movie was set.)

As I said, this is above the limit of my smarts, however I do have some questions.
How does one encode a neutrino? How does one detect and decode the message from a neutrino?

(Mr Mutant is mumbling something about Quantum Entanglement being instant and secure…)

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Date: 10/05/2020 10:32:45
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1553817
Subject: re: Neutrino Messaging

Divine Angel said:


This is mostly here just for discussion because this is waaaaaaay above the limit of my smarts.

Last night, we watched a movie called The Hummingbird Project, about a couple of guys building a fibre between Kansas and New York Stock Exchange in order to get stock market transactions milliseconds faster than their competitors (and old boss).

At the end of the film, the head geek was talking about neutrino messaging, which could theoretically take even fewer milliseconds to reach its destination.

Here’s what I found from a well-known search engine:
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21328574-900-neutrinos-send-wireless-message-through-the-earth/
(This article was published around the same time as the movie was set.)

As I said, this is above the limit of my smarts, however I do have some questions.
How does one encode a neutrino? How does one detect and decode the message from a neutrino?

(Mr Mutant is mumbling something about Quantum Entanglement being instant and secure…)

> A team at Fermilab in Batavia, Illinois, has used a beam of the particles to transmit the word “neutrino” to a detector 1 kilometre away, journeying 240 metres through solid ground.

That’s news.

I’d use Morse code. Or a similar code to that used for signalling by signal light (see movie Ponyo and image below). ie, switching the beam on and off.

A barcode is a similar type of code. So is binary coded decimal.

Anything else is too difficult to detect.

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Date: 10/05/2020 10:35:39
From: Tamb
ID: 1553819
Subject: re: Neutrino Messaging

mollwollfumble said:


Divine Angel said:

This is mostly here just for discussion because this is waaaaaaay above the limit of my smarts.

Last night, we watched a movie called The Hummingbird Project, about a couple of guys building a fibre between Kansas and New York Stock Exchange in order to get stock market transactions milliseconds faster than their competitors (and old boss).

At the end of the film, the head geek was talking about neutrino messaging, which could theoretically take even fewer milliseconds to reach its destination.

Here’s what I found from a well-known search engine:
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21328574-900-neutrinos-send-wireless-message-through-the-earth/
(This article was published around the same time as the movie was set.)

As I said, this is above the limit of my smarts, however I do have some questions.
How does one encode a neutrino? How does one detect and decode the message from a neutrino?

(Mr Mutant is mumbling something about Quantum Entanglement being instant and secure…)

> A team at Fermilab in Batavia, Illinois, has used a beam of the particles to transmit the word “neutrino” to a detector 1 kilometre away, journeying 240 metres through solid ground.

That’s news.

I’d use Morse code. Or a similar code to that used for signalling by signal light (see movie Ponyo and image below). ie, switching the beam on and off.

A barcode is a similar type of code. So is binary coded decimal.

Anything else is too difficult to detect.


I wonder if this could be used: · Piccolo was a telegraphy system, used by the Diplomatic Wireless Service (DWS) in the UK, for sending and receiving digital data in ITA2 (5-bit baudot) or ITA5 (7-bit ASCII) format over narrow-band Short Wave (SW) radio channels, using Multiple Frequency-Shift Keying (MFSK) modulation

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Date: 10/05/2020 17:33:52
From: KJW
ID: 1554019
Subject: re: Neutrino Messaging

Divine Angel said:

How does one encode a neutrino? How does one detect and decode the message from a neutrino?

With great difficulty. Neutrinos interact extremely weakly with matter.

Divine Angel said:

Mr Mutant is mumbling something about Quantum Entanglement being instant and secure…

Quantum Entanglement cannot be used to communicate information.

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