Almost forgot the weekly new thread…

buffy said:

Almost forgot the weekly new thread…

thank you. So did I

Another bad day for Russia, and they’re up into the silver medal position.

party_pants said:

Another bad day for Russia, and they’re up into the silver medal position.

Hard to see how it can’t keep getting worse for such countries.

Russia’s reported deaths are still ridiculously low.

Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

Another bad day for Russia, and they’re up into the silver medal position.

Hard to see how it can’t keep getting worse for such countries.

Yeah. I don’t know what they can do to stop it, apart from extreme lockdown and social distancing, or just let it run and dig lots of graves.

Bubblecar said:

Russia’s reported deaths are still ridiculously low.

I suspect it will pick up soon, lags behind case numbers by a couple of weeks.

It depends on how well they have been shielding aged care homes from infection.

Bubblecar said:

Russia’s reported deaths are still ridiculously low.

That’s OK, moll says they are right.

OTOH:
https://abcnews.go.com/International/data-suggests-russias-coroanvirus-deaths-higher-reported/story?id=70683286

party_pants said:

Bubblecar said:

Russia’s reported deaths are still ridiculously low.

I suspect it will pick up soon, lags behind case numbers by a couple of weeks.

It depends on how well they have been shielding aged care homes from infection.

Russian aid for the elderly is pretty basic, often referred to as “warehousing”. Mind you Russian life expectancy is lower than the West, so maybe there are fewer in what would be our “worst risk” category, age-wise.

Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

Bubblecar said:

Russia’s reported deaths are still ridiculously low.

I suspect it will pick up soon, lags behind case numbers by a couple of weeks.

It depends on how well they have been shielding aged care homes from infection.

Russian aid for the elderly is pretty basic, often referred to as “warehousing”. Mind you Russian life expectancy is lower than the West, so maybe there are fewer in what would be our “worst risk” category, age-wise.

In the UK the isolation of the aged care homes has been very slack. They’ve been sending people from hospitals into care homes to free up hospital beds. Probably the opposite of shielding them from possible infection, directly seeding age care homes with infected people. Russia might have different protocols.

Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

Bubblecar said:

Russia’s reported deaths are still ridiculously low.

I suspect it will pick up soon, lags behind case numbers by a couple of weeks.

It depends on how well they have been shielding aged care homes from infection.

Russian aid for the elderly is pretty basic, often referred to as “warehousing”. Mind you Russian life expectancy is lower than the West, so maybe there are fewer in what would be our “worst risk” category, age-wise.

“The country also has a far lower life expectancy than western European nations, meaning there are fewer people over 70, who are most vulnerable to coronavirus infection.”

…

From Rev’s link:

https://abcnews.go.com/International/data-suggests-russias-coroanvirus-deaths-higher-reported/story?id=70683286

Barrack Obama lays down some woop-ass.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TapYJBMgn1E&feature=share

(skip to 1:46:38)

Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

Another bad day for Russia, and they’re up into the silver medal position.

Hard to see how it can’t keep getting worse for such countries.

We’re not convinced that in the USA it was intentional, at least at first, but in the case of Russia, hard to be sure.

As we have mentioned previously, when the Next Wave Of Imperialism comes all that the Axis Of Stupid need to do is send a vanguard of infectious over to any of the soft countries, and Good Game it is.

Why would Russia want to be soft for a USUK vanguard?

SCIENCE said:

Bubblecar said:

party_pants said:

Another bad day for Russia, and they’re up into the silver medal position.

Hard to see how it can’t keep getting worse for such countries.

We’re not convinced that in the USA it was intentional, at least at first, but in the case of Russia, hard to be sure.

As we have mentioned previously, when the Next Wave Of Imperialism comes all that the Axis Of Stupid need to do is send a vanguard of infectious over to any of the soft countries, and Good Game it is.

Why would Russia want to be soft for a USUK vanguard?

Putin is the puppet-master who made the US and UK act against their own interests; through manipulation of social media……

party_pants said:

SCIENCE said:

Bubblecar said:

Hard to see how it can’t keep getting worse for such countries.

We’re not convinced that in the USA it was intentional, at least at first, but in the case of Russia, hard to be sure.

As we have mentioned previously, when the Next Wave Of Imperialism comes all that the Axis Of Stupid need to do is send a vanguard of infectious over to any of the soft countries, and Good Game it is.

Why would Russia want to be soft for a USUK vanguard?

Putin is the puppet-master who made the US and UK act against their own interests; through manipulation of social media……

But does that include millions of gun-toting extremists defending their right to kill fewer* people in their country than COVID-19 has?

* per year, to date

party_pants said:

SCIENCE said:

Bubblecar said:

Hard to see how it can’t keep getting worse for such countries.

We’re not convinced that in the USA it was intentional, at least at first, but in the case of Russia, hard to be sure.

As we have mentioned previously, when the Next Wave Of Imperialism comes all that the Axis Of Stupid need to do is send a vanguard of infectious over to any of the soft countries, and Good Game it is.

Why would Russia want to be soft for a USUK vanguard?

Putin is the puppet-master who made the US and UK act against their own interests; through manipulation of social media……

ROFL

sibeen said:

party_pants said:

SCIENCE said:

We’re not convinced that in the USA it was intentional, at least at first, but in the case of Russia, hard to be sure.

As we have mentioned previously, when the Next Wave Of Imperialism comes all that the Axis Of Stupid need to do is send a vanguard of infectious over to any of the soft countries, and Good Game it is.

Why would Russia want to be soft for a USUK vanguard?

Putin is the puppet-master who made the US and UK act against their own interests; through manipulation of social media……

ROFL

:)

Nice to know my work is appreciated

captain_spalding said:

“I wish i could do something for you.”

We’re lucky to have a non-privatised medical care system in this country.

It can literally mean the difference between life and death.

If any government threatens it, fight for it. Fight hard for it. Embarrass yourself. Get arrested, more than once if necessary. It’s your life they’ll be threatening. Or the lives of your children.

https://imgur.com/gallery/dJ6j3Jq

Young, healthy people like me are getting very, very sick from the disease caused by the coronavirus.
By Mara Gay

—

one does wonder if there are differences in incidence and-or survival in USA for people of particular sex, skin colour or gender/orientation

Remember how there are always claims that lockdown is ineffective, blah blah blah, we’ll fatten the curve anyway, blah blah blah, and as we all knew then as now, people will get scared enough at some point (or dead enough) that they’ll stop going out and infecting others anyway? Well, apparently it’s true, Sweden proves it, and people say it.

Enforcement and direction shift the equilibrium, but … what a surprise … there’s always going to be an equilibrium.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/14/opinion/coronavirus-us.html

They’re not waiting for politicians to tell them what to do. People locked themselves down before the governors acted and they’re staying home even where governors have opened up. The important decisions are not being made in statehouses. They are being made at the family and community level, as networks of people try to figure out what to do, based on their particular local context.

party_pants said:

SCIENCE said:

Bubblecar said:

Hard to see how it can’t keep getting worse for such countries.

We’re not convinced that in the USA it was intentional, at least at first, but in the case of Russia, hard to be sure.

As we have mentioned previously, when the Next Wave Of Imperialism comes all that the Axis Of Stupid need to do is send a vanguard of infectious over to any of the soft countries, and Good Game it is.

Why would Russia want to be soft for a USUK vanguard?

Putin is the puppet-master who made the US and UK act against their own interests; through manipulation of social media……

Well, Active Measures, is on SBS Viceland here at the moment. It is all about what you are talking about.

sibeen said:

party_pants said:

SCIENCE said:

We’re not convinced that in the USA it was intentional, at least at first, but in the case of Russia, hard to be sure.

As we have mentioned previously, when the Next Wave Of Imperialism comes all that the Axis Of Stupid need to do is send a vanguard of infectious over to any of the soft countries, and Good Game it is.

Why would Russia want to be soft for a USUK vanguard?

Putin is the puppet-master who made the US and UK act against their own interests; through manipulation of social media……

ROFL

You off the floor yet?

Saturation in Chile, Before and After

Witty Rejoinder said:

sibeen said:

party_pants said:

Putin is the puppet-master who made the US and UK act against their own interests; through manipulation of social media……

ROFL

You off the floor yet?

Not really.

sibeen said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

sibeen said:

ROFL

You off the floor yet?

Not really.

Heh.

Witty Rejoinder said:

sibeen said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

You off the floor yet?

Not really.

Heh.

But I’ve been there for the last few years with this thing.

sibeen said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

sibeen said:

ROFL

You off the floor yet?

Not really.

my jokes are rarer than Boris’s, but they’re worth waiting for.

dv said:

:(

dv said:

Death to Bus Drivers.

Tau.Neutrino said:

dv said:

Death to Bus Drivers.

Very harsh, Dominic.

party_pants said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

dv said:

Death to Bus Drivers.

Very harsh, Dominic.

so we take it the implication is that bus driver deaths are acceptable ¿

SCIENCE said:

party_pants said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Death to Bus Drivers.

Very harsh, Dominic.

so we take it the implication is that bus driver deaths are acceptable ¿

No. I meant the exact opposite.

party_pants said:

SCIENCE said:

party_pants said:

Very harsh, Dominic.

so we take it the implication is that bus driver deaths are acceptable ¿

No. I meant the exact opposite.

but in the image we mean

Ah, I was wrong about blood tests for antibodies being unable to accurately distinguish between covid-19 and other coronaviruses (such as those causing the common cold).

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/covid-19-coronavirus-what-antibody-tests-tell-us

Antibodies might attach to any of a variety of places on the virus — including spots that are similar among closely-related viruses. As a result, researchers have to carefully choose which part of the new coronavirus to use. The tests usually detect two types of antibodies. One, called IgM, is typically produced about a week after infection and could identify patients who may still be infected.Levels of IgM begin to wane as the body makes another type of antibody called IgG, which can persist for longer periods of time.

The best antibody tests are both highly sensitive — detecting a wide range of IgM or IgG antibodies that recognize different parts of a viral protein — and highly specific, meaning the detected antibodies are for only that virus. Coronaviruses that cause colds, for example, also circulate around the globe. Antibody tests with low specificity and high sensitivity might detect antibodies against cold viruses and give a false positive. But a test with high specificity and low sensitivity could miss antibodies, resulting in a false negative.

Timing is also crucial, as patients who have not been infected long enough to develop antibodies would test negative. Of 175 patients with mild symptoms, about 70 percent developed antibodies around 10 days after symptoms began.

Though coronavirus antibody tests have flooded the market, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration has so far authorized just eight for emergency use. Based on data the tests’ developers provided to the FDA, the sensitivity and specificity of the tests vary widely, from 88 to 100 percent for sensitivity and 90 to 100 percent for specificity.

It’s possible that those 10 people of 175 patients developed antibodies that recognized a different viral protein than the one used in the test, producing a false negative result.

Anecdotal reports from South Korea and China of patients who tested positive after recovering have suggested that some people could be reinfected. But nasal and throat swabs from 12 of these “reinfected” COVID-19 patients had no infectious viruses despite testing positive for the virus’s genetic material, so it’s possible the diagnostic test is detecting lingering fragments of the coronavirus as it is cleared from the body rather than a reinfection. At least in the short term, people seem to be protected against reinfection by their antibodies.

Some countries including the United States are considering using antibody tests as a stepping stone to provide so-called “immunity certificates” to people who test positive that would allow them to reenter society or return to work.

I like that idea.

mollwollfumble said:

Some countries including the United States are considering using antibody tests as a stepping stone to provide so-called “immunity certificates” to people who test positive that would allow them to reenter society or return to work.

nice, especially how people who test positive need a certificate to reenter society because they are out of society, lepers, communists, raving lunatics, otherwise

words matter

..No one had ever done this before. Who cares about a salmon with a sniffle?

To their shock, every single fish was infected with multiple viruses that had never been seen anywhere else.

“We found they harbour an extraordinarily diverse range of viruses we thought had only infected mammals and birds,” says Geoghegan, a virologist and senior lecturer now based at the University of Otago.
A fish seller in a wet market in Little India, Singapore.

It’s not just fish. Scientists estimate there are around 1.67 million viruses circulating in mammals and waterfowl. In eukaryotes – all complex life, basically – the rough guess is around 87 million.

And those viruses are mutating every day.

Governments around the world have spent hundreds of millions of dollars on ambitious projects designed to predict the next virus to jump from animals to humans. They did not stop COVID-19.

Some argue that’s because we never properly funded the projects – or ran them for long enough.

Or maybe, says Geoghegan, it simply cannot be done. “Prediction is flawed, from the outset.”

But she believes she has a strategy to catch the next one.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/scientists-tried-to-predict-covid-19-here-s-why-they-missed-it-20200515-p54tgb.html

I have a hypothesis.

What if people aren’t getting reinfected, but the virus doesn’t go away, like HIV or herpes? Can and do respiratory viruses do that?

Divine Angel said:

I have a hypothesis.

What if people aren’t getting reinfected, but the virus doesn’t go away, like HIV or herpes? Can and do respiratory viruses do that?

At least didn’t say you have a theory :)

In answer to your question I don’t know.

Divine Angel said:

I have a hypothesis.

What if people aren’t getting reinfected, but the virus doesn’t go away, like HIV or herpes? Can and do respiratory viruses do that?

Morning all
Malaria has a strain which stays with you for life.

dv said:

So what’s all that about?

It seems that the deaths are plummeting in Europe.

Caused by
1. Lockdowns working.
2. Virus has nearly run it’s course.
3. Summer.

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

So what’s all that about?

Elon & Ivanka being dickheads, I take it.

Peak Warming Man said:

It seems that the deaths are plummeting in Europe.

Caused by
1. Lockdowns working.
2. Virus has nearly run it’s course.
3. Summer.

I wouldn’t say UK was exactly plummeting, but I suppose it’s not exactly summer there yet.

Brazil down a fair bit, but they are very variable.

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

So what’s all that about?

Ah me these things are so much better when explained in detail.

The Wachowskis wrote and directed the Matrix series of films. In a famous scene, the protagonist Neo, while in the Matrix, is offered two pills by Morpheus and told to take one. If he takes the blue pill he will stay in the lie of the Matrix, and if he takes the red pill, he will wake and emerge into the real world.

The red pill has come to represent the Men’s Rights Movement and other conservative ventures, representing emergence from the fog of liberalism. Lord knows what Elon is talking about specifically but Wachowski is objecting to Musk and Trump adopting his plot device for political purposes.

https://www.salon.com/2017/09/25/candace-owens-red-pill-black-youtube/amp
Https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/apr/14/the-red-pill-reddit-modern-misogyny-manosphere-men

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

So what’s all that about?

Ah me these things are so much better when explained in detail.

The Wachowskis wrote and directed the Matrix series of films. In a famous scene, the protagonist Neo, while in the Matrix, is offered two pills by Morpheus and told to take one. If he takes the blue pill he will stay in the lie of the Matrix, and if he takes the red pill, he will wake and emerge into the real world.

The red pill has come to represent the Men’s Rights Movement and other conservative ventures, representing emergence from the fog of liberalism. Lord knows what Elon is talking about specifically but Wachowski is objecting to Musk and Trump adopting his plot device for political purposes.

https://www.salon.com/2017/09/25/candace-owens-red-pill-black-youtube/amp
Https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/apr/14/the-red-pill-reddit-modern-misogyny-manosphere-men

OK, I can only echo Ms Wachowskis sentiments then.

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

dv said:

So what’s all that about?

Ah me these things are so much better when explained in detail.

The Wachowskis wrote and directed the Matrix series of films. In a famous scene, the protagonist Neo, while in the Matrix, is offered two pills by Morpheus and told to take one. If he takes the blue pill he will stay in the lie of the Matrix, and if he takes the red pill, he will wake and emerge into the real world.

The red pill has come to represent the Men’s Rights Movement and other conservative ventures, representing emergence from the fog of liberalism. Lord knows what Elon is talking about specifically but Wachowski is objecting to Musk and Trump adopting his plot device for political purposes.

https://www.salon.com/2017/09/25/candace-owens-red-pill-black-youtube/amp
Https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/apr/14/the-red-pill-reddit-modern-misogyny-manosphere-men

so don’t go mixing the reds along with the blues.

roughbarked said:

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

So what’s all that about?

Ah me these things are so much better when explained in detail.

The Wachowskis wrote and directed the Matrix series of films. In a famous scene, the protagonist Neo, while in the Matrix, is offered two pills by Morpheus and told to take one. If he takes the blue pill he will stay in the lie of the Matrix, and if he takes the red pill, he will wake and emerge into the real world.

The red pill has come to represent the Men’s Rights Movement and other conservative ventures, representing emergence from the fog of liberalism. Lord knows what Elon is talking about specifically but Wachowski is objecting to Musk and Trump adopting his plot device for political purposes.

https://www.salon.com/2017/09/25/candace-owens-red-pill-black-youtube/amp
Https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/apr/14/the-red-pill-reddit-modern-misogyny-manosphere-men

so don’t go mixing the reds along with the blues.

NRL State of Origin.

The Wachowskis wrote and directed the Matrix series of films. In a famous scene, the protagonist Neo, while in the Matrix, is offered two pills by Morpheus and told to take one. If he takes the blue pill he will stay in the lie of the Matrix, and if he takes the red pill, he will wake and emerge into the real world.

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Well everyone knows that.

Ian said:

The Wachowskis wrote and directed the Matrix series of films. In a famous scene, the protagonist Neo, while in the Matrix, is offered two pills by Morpheus and told to take one. If he takes the blue pill he will stay in the lie of the Matrix, and if he takes the red pill, he will wake and emerge into the real world.

—-
Well everyone knows that.

There is at least one person in the World who did not know that, and I suspect that the number who did not know about red pills being associated with right wing men’s movements may go well into double figures.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Ian said:

The Wachowskis wrote and directed the Matrix series of films. In a famous scene, the protagonist Neo, while in the Matrix, is offered two pills by Morpheus and told to take one. If he takes the blue pill he will stay in the lie of the Matrix, and if he takes the red pill, he will wake and emerge into the real world.

—-
Well everyone knows that.

There is at least one person in the World who did not know that, and I suspect that the number who did not know about red pills being associated with right wing men’s movements may go well into double figures.

+1

Michael V said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Ian said:

The Wachowskis wrote and directed the Matrix series of films. In a famous scene, the protagonist Neo, while in the Matrix, is offered two pills by Morpheus and told to take one. If he takes the blue pill he will stay in the lie of the Matrix, and if he takes the red pill, he will wake and emerge into the real world.

—-
Well everyone knows that.

There is at least one person in the World who did not know that, and I suspect that the number who did not know about red pills being associated with right wing men’s movements may go well into double figures.

+1

Jus did a search on red pill significance and found:

‘Red pill’ has become a popular phrase among cyberculture and signifies a free-thinking attitude, and a waking up from a “normal” life of sloth and ignorance. Red pills prefer the truth, no matter how gritty and painful it may be.

Mind you, that comes from a blog called redpillnation, so there may be some Dunning-Kruger stuff going on there.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Michael V said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

There is at least one person in the World who did not know that, and I suspect that the number who did not know about red pills being associated with right wing men’s movements may go well into double figures.

+1

Jus did a search on red pill significance and found:

‘Red pill’ has become a popular phrase among cyberculture and signifies a free-thinking attitude, and a waking up from a “normal” life of sloth and ignorance. Red pills prefer the truth, no matter how gritty and painful it may be.

Mind you, that comes from a blog called redpillnation, so there may be some Dunning-Kruger stuff going on there.

Well some of the headliners on redpillnation are:
Brie Larson singlehandedly devalues Captain Marvel
Senate Investigation Clears Trump
10 Signs of a Toxic Relationship 4. She blames you or tries to pin the blame on you for small things

Eric Trump says coronavirus is a ploy to stop his father’s campaign rallies and will ‘magically’ disappear after election day

Eric Trump claimed that the coronavirus will “magically all of a sudden go away and disappear” after the presidential election on November 3 during an appearance on Fox NewsSaturday.
Eric Trump’s comments come as his brother, Trump Jr., also said that the coronavirus – which has killed more than 88,000 Americans – was invented by the Democrats to cancel his father’s campaign rallies.
Public health experts – including some in the Trump administration – believe there will actually be a larger, even more deadly, second wave of the outbreak in the fall and winter

The president’s middle son accused the Democratic Party of engineering the coronavirus pandemic to keep his father from hosting campaign rallies, he said during an appearance on Fox News Saturday. According to Eric Trump, the virus will disappear after election day, November 3.

However, the comments stand in direct opposition to statements from public health officials on both the origin and the trajectory of the virus. Most anticipate a larger second wave of new coronavirus infections in the fall and winter.

“They think they’re taking away Donald Trump’s greatest tool, which is to go into an arena and fill it with 50,000 people every time,” Eric Trump, who is the executive vice president of the Trump Organisation, told Fox News’ Jeanine Pirro.

In reality, the President’s campaign events do not draw 50,000 people, and Trump has been repeatedly caught mistaking his attendance numbers. In February, President Trump said 50,000 people attended a rally held in a New Hampshire arena with a maximum capacity of 11,700, Newsweek reported

—-
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/eric-trump-coronavirus-disappear-after-election-day-probably-get-worse-2020-5

dv said:

Eric Trump says coronavirus is a ploy to stop his father’s campaign rallies and will ‘magically’ disappear after election day

Eric Trump claimed that the coronavirus will “magically all of a sudden go away and disappear” after the presidential election on November 3 during an appearance on Fox NewsSaturday.
Eric Trump’s comments come as his brother, Trump Jr., also said that the coronavirus – which has killed more than 88,000 Americans – was invented by the Democrats to cancel his father’s campaign rallies.
Public health experts – including some in the Trump administration – believe there will actually be a larger, even more deadly, second wave of the outbreak in the fall and winter

The president’s middle son accused the Democratic Party of engineering the coronavirus pandemic to keep his father from hosting campaign rallies, he said during an appearance on Fox News Saturday. According to Eric Trump, the virus will disappear after election day, November 3.

However, the comments stand in direct opposition to statements from public health officials on both the origin and the trajectory of the virus. Most anticipate a larger second wave of new coronavirus infections in the fall and winter.

“They think they’re taking away Donald Trump’s greatest tool, which is to go into an arena and fill it with 50,000 people every time,” Eric Trump, who is the executive vice president of the Trump Organisation, told Fox News’ Jeanine Pirro.

In reality, the President’s campaign events do not draw 50,000 people, and Trump has been repeatedly caught mistaking his attendance numbers. In February, President Trump said 50,000 people attended a rally held in a New Hampshire arena with a maximum capacity of 11,700, Newsweek reported

—-
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/eric-trump-coronavirus-disappear-after-election-day-probably-get-worse-2020-5

Oh gourd.

dv said:

Eric Trump says coronavirus is a ploy to stop his father’s campaign rallies and will ‘magically’ disappear after election day

Eric Trump claimed that the coronavirus will “magically all of a sudden go away and disappear” after the presidential election on November 3 during an appearance on Fox NewsSaturday.
Eric Trump’s comments come as his brother, Trump Jr., also said that the coronavirus – which has killed more than 88,000 Americans – was invented by the Democrats to cancel his father’s campaign rallies.
Public health experts – including some in the Trump administration – believe there will actually be a larger, even more deadly, second wave of the outbreak in the fall and winter

The president’s middle son accused the Democratic Party of engineering the coronavirus pandemic to keep his father from hosting campaign rallies, he said during an appearance on Fox News Saturday. According to Eric Trump, the virus will disappear after election day, November 3.

However, the comments stand in direct opposition to statements from public health officials on both the origin and the trajectory of the virus. Most anticipate a larger second wave of new coronavirus infections in the fall and winter.

“They think they’re taking away Donald Trump’s greatest tool, which is to go into an arena and fill it with 50,000 people every time,” Eric Trump, who is the executive vice president of the Trump Organisation, told Fox News’ Jeanine Pirro.

In reality, the President’s campaign events do not draw 50,000 people, and Trump has been repeatedly caught mistaking his attendance numbers. In February, President Trump said 50,000 people attended a rally held in a New Hampshire arena with a maximum capacity of 11,700, Newsweek reported

—-
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/eric-trump-coronavirus-disappear-after-election-day-probably-get-worse-2020-5

certainly the whole word is out to get them.

dv said:

Eric Trump says coronavirus is a ploy to stop his father’s campaign rallies and will ‘magically’ disappear after election day

Eric Trump claimed that the coronavirus will “magically all of a sudden go away and disappear” after the presidential election on November 3 during an appearance on Fox NewsSaturday.
Eric Trump’s comments come as his brother, Trump Jr., also said that the coronavirus – which has killed more than 88,000 Americans – was invented by the Democrats to cancel his father’s campaign rallies.
Public health experts – including some in the Trump administration – believe there will actually be a larger, even more deadly, second wave of the outbreak in the fall and winter

The president’s middle son accused the Democratic Party of engineering the coronavirus pandemic to keep his father from hosting campaign rallies, he said during an appearance on Fox News Saturday. According to Eric Trump, the virus will disappear after election day, November 3.

However, the comments stand in direct opposition to statements from public health officials on both the origin and the trajectory of the virus. Most anticipate a larger second wave of new coronavirus infections in the fall and winter.

“They think they’re taking away Donald Trump’s greatest tool, which is to go into an arena and fill it with 50,000 people every time,” Eric Trump, who is the executive vice president of the Trump Organisation, told Fox News’ Jeanine Pirro.

In reality, the President’s campaign events do not draw 50,000 people, and Trump has been repeatedly caught mistaking his attendance numbers. In February, President Trump said 50,000 people attended a rally held in a New Hampshire arena with a maximum capacity of 11,700, Newsweek reported

—-
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/eric-trump-coronavirus-disappear-after-election-day-probably-get-worse-2020-5

It is hard to believe that he actually believes that, he is just saying the lines someone told him to say.

dv said:

Eric Trump says coronavirus is a ploy to stop his father’s campaign rallies and will ‘magically’ disappear after election day

Eric Trump claimed that the coronavirus will “magically all of a sudden go away and disappear” after the presidential election on November 3 during an appearance on Fox NewsSaturday.
Eric Trump’s comments come as his brother, Trump Jr., also said that the coronavirus – which has killed more than 88,000 Americans – was invented by the Democrats to cancel his father’s campaign rallies.
Public health experts – including some in the Trump administration – believe there will actually be a larger, even more deadly, second wave of the outbreak in the fall and winter

The president’s middle son accused the Democratic Party of engineering the coronavirus pandemic to keep his father from hosting campaign rallies, he said during an appearance on Fox News Saturday. According to Eric Trump, the virus will disappear after election day, November 3.

However, the comments stand in direct opposition to statements from public health officials on both the origin and the trajectory of the virus. Most anticipate a larger second wave of new coronavirus infections in the fall and winter.

“They think they’re taking away Donald Trump’s greatest tool, which is to go into an arena and fill it with 50,000 people every time,” Eric Trump, who is the executive vice president of the Trump Organisation, told Fox News’ Jeanine Pirro.

In reality, the President’s campaign events do not draw 50,000 people, and Trump has been repeatedly caught mistaking his attendance numbers. In February, President Trump said 50,000 people attended a rally held in a New Hampshire arena with a maximum capacity of 11,700, Newsweek reported

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https://www.businessinsider.com.au/eric-trump-coronavirus-disappear-after-election-day-probably-get-worse-2020-5

JFC can someone please take these people out of the gene pool.

party_pants said:

dv said:

Eric Trump says coronavirus is a ploy to stop his father’s campaign rallies and will ‘magically’ disappear after election day

Eric Trump claimed that the coronavirus will “magically all of a sudden go away and disappear” after the presidential election on November 3 during an appearance on Fox NewsSaturday.
Eric Trump’s comments come as his brother, Trump Jr., also said that the coronavirus – which has killed more than 88,000 Americans – was invented by the Democrats to cancel his father’s campaign rallies.
Public health experts – including some in the Trump administration – believe there will actually be a larger, even more deadly, second wave of the outbreak in the fall and winter

The president’s middle son accused the Democratic Party of engineering the coronavirus pandemic to keep his father from hosting campaign rallies, he said during an appearance on Fox News Saturday. According to Eric Trump, the virus will disappear after election day, November 3.

However, the comments stand in direct opposition to statements from public health officials on both the origin and the trajectory of the virus. Most anticipate a larger second wave of new coronavirus infections in the fall and winter.

“They think they’re taking away Donald Trump’s greatest tool, which is to go into an arena and fill it with 50,000 people every time,” Eric Trump, who is the executive vice president of the Trump Organisation, told Fox News’ Jeanine Pirro.

In reality, the President’s campaign events do not draw 50,000 people, and Trump has been repeatedly caught mistaking his attendance numbers. In February, President Trump said 50,000 people attended a rally held in a New Hampshire arena with a maximum capacity of 11,700, Newsweek reported

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https://www.businessinsider.com.au/eric-trump-coronavirus-disappear-after-election-day-probably-get-worse-2020-5

It is hard to believe that he actually believes that, he is just saying the lines someone told him to say.

The poor child has been schooled. He has no idea of the real world outside.

dv said:

Eric Trump says coronavirus is a ploy to stop his father’s campaign rallies and will ‘magically’ disappear after election day

Eric Trump claimed that the coronavirus will “magically all of a sudden go away and disappear” after the presidential election on November 3 during an appearance on Fox NewsSaturday.
Eric Trump’s comments come as his brother, Trump Jr., also said that the coronavirus – which has killed more than 88,000 Americans – was invented by the Democrats to cancel his father’s campaign rallies.
Public health experts – including some in the Trump administration – believe there will actually be a larger, even more deadly, second wave of the outbreak in the fall and winter

The president’s middle son accused the Democratic Party of engineering the coronavirus pandemic to keep his father from hosting campaign rallies, he said during an appearance on Fox News Saturday. According to Eric Trump, the virus will disappear after election day, November 3.

However, the comments stand in direct opposition to statements from public health officials on both the origin and the trajectory of the virus. Most anticipate a larger second wave of new coronavirus infections in the fall and winter.

“They think they’re taking away Donald Trump’s greatest tool, which is to go into an arena and fill it with 50,000 people every time,” Eric Trump, who is the executive vice president of the Trump Organisation, told Fox News’ Jeanine Pirro.

In reality, the President’s campaign events do not draw 50,000 people, and Trump has been repeatedly caught mistaking his attendance numbers. In February, President Trump said 50,000 people attended a rally held in a New Hampshire arena with a maximum capacity of 11,700, Newsweek reported

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https://www.businessinsider.com.au/eric-trump-coronavirus-disappear-after-election-day-probably-get-worse-2020-5

It just gets crazier, I mean of everything Eric the Orange said Business Insiders rushes in and tries to nail EtO on campaign rally numbers.

Divine Angel said:

dv said:

Eric Trump says coronavirus is a ploy to stop his father’s campaign rallies and will ‘magically’ disappear after election day

Eric Trump claimed that the coronavirus will “magically all of a sudden go away and disappear” after the presidential election on November 3 during an appearance on Fox NewsSaturday.
Eric Trump’s comments come as his brother, Trump Jr., also said that the coronavirus – which has killed more than 88,000 Americans – was invented by the Democrats to cancel his father’s campaign rallies.
Public health experts – including some in the Trump administration – believe there will actually be a larger, even more deadly, second wave of the outbreak in the fall and winter

The president’s middle son accused the Democratic Party of engineering the coronavirus pandemic to keep his father from hosting campaign rallies, he said during an appearance on Fox News Saturday. According to Eric Trump, the virus will disappear after election day, November 3.

However, the comments stand in direct opposition to statements from public health officials on both the origin and the trajectory of the virus. Most anticipate a larger second wave of new coronavirus infections in the fall and winter.

“They think they’re taking away Donald Trump’s greatest tool, which is to go into an arena and fill it with 50,000 people every time,” Eric Trump, who is the executive vice president of the Trump Organisation, told Fox News’ Jeanine Pirro.

In reality, the President’s campaign events do not draw 50,000 people, and Trump has been repeatedly caught mistaking his attendance numbers. In February, President Trump said 50,000 people attended a rally held in a New Hampshire arena with a maximum capacity of 11,700, Newsweek reported

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https://www.businessinsider.com.au/eric-trump-coronavirus-disappear-after-election-day-probably-get-worse-2020-5

JFC can someone please take these people out of the gene pool.

He’s trying. Donald keeps sacking all the agents he’s sent in.

roughbarked said:

party_pants said:

dv said:

Eric Trump says coronavirus is a ploy to stop his father’s campaign rallies and will ‘magically’ disappear after election day

Eric Trump claimed that the coronavirus will “magically all of a sudden go away and disappear” after the presidential election on November 3 during an appearance on Fox NewsSaturday.
Eric Trump’s comments come as his brother, Trump Jr., also said that the coronavirus – which has killed more than 88,000 Americans – was invented by the Democrats to cancel his father’s campaign rallies.
Public health experts – including some in the Trump administration – believe there will actually be a larger, even more deadly, second wave of the outbreak in the fall and winter

The president’s middle son accused the Democratic Party of engineering the coronavirus pandemic to keep his father from hosting campaign rallies, he said during an appearance on Fox News Saturday. According to Eric Trump, the virus will disappear after election day, November 3.

However, the comments stand in direct opposition to statements from public health officials on both the origin and the trajectory of the virus. Most anticipate a larger second wave of new coronavirus infections in the fall and winter.

“They think they’re taking away Donald Trump’s greatest tool, which is to go into an arena and fill it with 50,000 people every time,” Eric Trump, who is the executive vice president of the Trump Organisation, told Fox News’ Jeanine Pirro.

In reality, the President’s campaign events do not draw 50,000 people, and Trump has been repeatedly caught mistaking his attendance numbers. In February, President Trump said 50,000 people attended a rally held in a New Hampshire arena with a maximum capacity of 11,700, Newsweek reported

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https://www.businessinsider.com.au/eric-trump-coronavirus-disappear-after-election-day-probably-get-worse-2020-5

It is hard to believe that he actually believes that, he is just saying the lines someone told him to say.

The poor child has been schooled. He has no idea of the real world outside.

maybe DT is all like, “If you support my idiocy publicly I’ll write another million/year into your account”

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Eric Trump says coronavirus is a ploy to stop his father’s campaign rallies and will ‘magically’ disappear after election day

Eric Trump claimed that the coronavirus will “magically all of a sudden go away and disappear” after the presidential election on November 3 during an appearance on Fox NewsSaturday.
Eric Trump’s comments come as his brother, Trump Jr., also said that the coronavirus – which has killed more than 88,000 Americans – was invented by the Democrats to cancel his father’s campaign rallies.
Public health experts – including some in the Trump administration – believe there will actually be a larger, even more deadly, second wave of the outbreak in the fall and winter

The president’s middle son accused the Democratic Party of engineering the coronavirus pandemic to keep his father from hosting campaign rallies, he said during an appearance on Fox News Saturday. According to Eric Trump, the virus will disappear after election day, November 3.

However, the comments stand in direct opposition to statements from public health officials on both the origin and the trajectory of the virus. Most anticipate a larger second wave of new coronavirus infections in the fall and winter.

“They think they’re taking away Donald Trump’s greatest tool, which is to go into an arena and fill it with 50,000 people every time,” Eric Trump, who is the executive vice president of the Trump Organisation, told Fox News’ Jeanine Pirro.

In reality, the President’s campaign events do not draw 50,000 people, and Trump has been repeatedly caught mistaking his attendance numbers. In February, President Trump said 50,000 people attended a rally held in a New Hampshire arena with a maximum capacity of 11,700, Newsweek reported

—-
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/eric-trump-coronavirus-disappear-after-election-day-probably-get-worse-2020-5

It just gets crazier, I mean of everything Eric the Orange said Business Insiders rushes in and tries to nail EtO on campaign rally numbers.

Really? That was your major takeaway from that article?

Divine Angel said:

I have a hypothesis.

What if people aren’t getting reinfected, but the virus doesn’t go away, like HIV or herpes? Can and do respiratory viruses do that?

Or, are people being reinfected with a different strain?

Divine Angel said:

Divine Angel said:

I have a hypothesis.

What if people aren’t getting reinfected, but the virus doesn’t go away, like HIV or herpes? Can and do respiratory viruses do that?

Or, are people being reinfected with a different strain?

Both are possible; we don’t know enough about the virus yet. It’s also possible that the test — which has a ~20% false negative rate, IIRC — has given a negative result that should have been positive.

btm said:

Divine Angel said:

Divine Angel said:

I have a hypothesis.

What if people aren’t getting reinfected, but the virus doesn’t go away, like HIV or herpes? Can and do respiratory viruses do that?

Or, are people being reinfected with a different strain?

Both are possible; we don’t know enough about the virus yet. It’s also possible that the test — which has a ~20% false negative rate, IIRC — has given a negative result that should have been positive.

What is the false positive rate?

I was given to understand that no virus ever goes away.

dv said:

I was given to understand that no virus ever goes away.

Clearly this virus is present in bats.

Divine Angel said:

Divine Angel said:

I have a hypothesis.

What if people aren’t getting reinfected, but the virus doesn’t go away, like HIV or herpes? Can and do respiratory viruses do that?

Or, are people being reinfected with a different strain?

Unlikely.

dv said:

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Eric Trump says coronavirus is a ploy to stop his father’s campaign rallies and will ‘magically’ disappear after election day

Eric Trump claimed that the coronavirus will “magically all of a sudden go away and disappear” after the presidential election on November 3 during an appearance on Fox NewsSaturday.
Eric Trump’s comments come as his brother, Trump Jr., also said that the coronavirus – which has killed more than 88,000 Americans – was invented by the Democrats to cancel his father’s campaign rallies.
Public health experts – including some in the Trump administration – believe there will actually be a larger, even more deadly, second wave of the outbreak in the fall and winter

The president’s middle son accused the Democratic Party of engineering the coronavirus pandemic to keep his father from hosting campaign rallies, he said during an appearance on Fox News Saturday. According to Eric Trump, the virus will disappear after election day, November 3.

However, the comments stand in direct opposition to statements from public health officials on both the origin and the trajectory of the virus. Most anticipate a larger second wave of new coronavirus infections in the fall and winter.

“They think they’re taking away Donald Trump’s greatest tool, which is to go into an arena and fill it with 50,000 people every time,” Eric Trump, who is the executive vice president of the Trump Organisation, told Fox News’ Jeanine Pirro.

In reality, the President’s campaign events do not draw 50,000 people, and Trump has been repeatedly caught mistaking his attendance numbers. In February, President Trump said 50,000 people attended a rally held in a New Hampshire arena with a maximum capacity of 11,700, Newsweek reported

—-
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/eric-trump-coronavirus-disappear-after-election-day-probably-get-worse-2020-5

It just gets crazier, I mean of everything Eric the Orange said Business Insiders rushes in and tries to nail EtO on campaign rally numbers.

Really? That was your major takeaway from that article?

Yes really, there is not a single vote in arguing over rally numbers.
The story is not fucking rally numbers, put the rally numbers away, it’s a dry gully, stop focusing on fucking rally numbers.
The story is the kid thinks 80,000 deaths is a conspiracy, that’s the story, stay focused on the story.
shakes head

Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:

Divine Angel said:

I have a hypothesis.

What if people aren’t getting reinfected, but the virus doesn’t go away, like HIV or herpes? Can and do respiratory viruses do that?

Or, are people being reinfected with a different strain?

Unlikely.

Aren’t the Australians largely infected by the one strain?

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Peak Warming Man said:

It just gets crazier, I mean of everything Eric the Orange said Business Insiders rushes in and tries to nail EtO on campaign rally numbers.

Really? That was your major takeaway from that article?

Yes really, there is not a single vote in arguing over rally numbers.
The story is not fucking rally numbers, put the rally numbers away, it’s a dry gully, stop focusing on fucking rally numbers.
The story is the kid thinks 80,000 deaths is a conspiracy, that’s the story, stay focused on the story.
shakes head

Not sure the kid is allowed to think.

sibeen said:

btm said:

Divine Angel said:

Or, are people being reinfected with a different strain?

Both are possible; we don’t know enough about the virus yet. It’s also possible that the test — which has a ~20% false negative rate, IIRC — has given a negative result that should have been positive.

What is the false positive rate?

I’m not sure; I’m quoting what I remember poik saying in the above.

roughbarked said:

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Really? That was your major takeaway from that article?

Yes really, there is not a single vote in arguing over rally numbers.
The story is not fucking rally numbers, put the rally numbers away, it’s a dry gully, stop focusing on fucking rally numbers.
The story is the kid thinks 80,000 deaths is a conspiracy, that’s the story, stay focused on the story.
shakes head

Not sure the kid is allowed to think.

bangs head on desk repeatedly

sibeen said:

btm said:

Divine Angel said:

Or, are people being reinfected with a different strain?

Both are possible; we don’t know enough about the virus yet. It’s also possible that the test — which has a ~20% false negative rate, IIRC — has given a negative result that should have been positive.

What is the false positive rate?

Don’t really know yet, in proper lab conditions it’s 0, apparently.

poikilotherm said:

sibeen said:

btm said:

Both are possible; we don’t know enough about the virus yet. It’s also possible that the test — which has a ~20% false negative rate, IIRC — has given a negative result that should have been positive.

What is the false positive rate?

Don’t really know yet, in proper lab conditions it’s 0, apparently.

I’d find that…surprising.

Michael V said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Ian said:

The Wachowskis wrote and directed the Matrix series of films. In a famous scene, the protagonist Neo, while in the Matrix, is offered two pills by Morpheus and told to take one. If he takes the blue pill he will stay in the lie of the Matrix, and if he takes the red pill, he will wake and emerge into the real world.

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Well everyone knows that.

There is at least one person in the World who did not know that, and I suspect that the number who did not know about red pills being associated with right wing men’s movements may go well into double figures.

+1

And me, of course.

Divine Angel said:

Divine Angel said:

I have a hypothesis.

What if people aren’t getting reinfected, but the virus doesn’t go away, like HIV or herpes? Can and do respiratory viruses do that?

Or, are people being reinfected with a different strain?

Or, are the tests picking up virus fragments that have not cleared from the body?

sibeen said:

btm said:

Divine Angel said:

Or, are people being reinfected with a different strain?

Both are possible; we don’t know enough about the virus yet. It’s also possible that the test — which has a ~20% false negative rate, IIRC — has given a negative result that should have been positive.

What is the false positive rate?

Naughty!

buffy said:

Divine Angel said:

Divine Angel said:

I have a hypothesis.

What if people aren’t getting reinfected, but the virus doesn’t go away, like HIV or herpes? Can and do respiratory viruses do that?

Or, are people being reinfected with a different strain?

Or, are the tests picking up virus fragments that have not cleared from the body?

All of the above. This entire coronavirus thing didn’t bother me much until I heard about that Australian cruise couple who tested positive again after testing negative. The possibility of the virus staying dormant and resurfacing when, say, our immunity is lowered, is terrifying, as it could be a lifelong illness. I think on the day I read this I decided to keep my boys home from school.

Speedy said:

buffy said:

Divine Angel said:

Or, are people being reinfected with a different strain?

Or, are the tests picking up virus fragments that have not cleared from the body?

All of the above. This entire coronavirus thing didn’t bother me much until I heard about that Australian cruise couple who tested positive again after testing negative. The possibility of the virus staying dormant and resurfacing when, say, our immunity is lowered, is terrifying, as it could be a lifelong illness. I think on the day I read this I decided to keep my boys home from school.

What started as virus that is proving more complex everyday has caused another fatal aspect of this disease, and that is its devastating effect on our way of life and in order to survive, our need to trade with others. They are beginning to act together to create a much larger and more deadly problem that might bring us to our knees and by us, I mean the world.

sibeen said:

poikilotherm said:

sibeen said:

What is the false positive rate?

Don’t really know yet, in proper lab conditions it’s 0, apparently.

I’d find that…surprising.

Yea, probably coz you’re an engineer…

“Researchers at the Foundation for Innovative New Diagnostics, a nonprofit research center in Geneva, tested five COVID-19 RT-PCR tests and found that all five achieved 100% sensitivity on positive samples, and at least 96% specificity on negative samples in a laboratory setting….Researchers still don’t know what the real-world false positive rate is”

From some random googlin’.

poikilotherm said:

sibeen said:

poikilotherm said:

Don’t really know yet, in proper lab conditions it’s 0, apparently.

I’d find that…surprising.

Yea, probably coz you’re an engineer…

“Researchers at the Foundation for Innovative New Diagnostics, a nonprofit research center in Geneva, tested five COVID-19 RT-PCR tests and found that all five achieved 100% sensitivity on positive samples, and at least 96% specificity on negative samples in a laboratory setting….Researchers still don’t know what the real-world false positive rate is”

From some random googlin’.

A vaccine our only hope? Just stop that virus from producing more surprises.

Michael V said:

Divine Angel said:

Divine Angel said:

I have a hypothesis.

What if people aren’t getting reinfected, but the virus doesn’t go away, like HIV or herpes? Can and do respiratory viruses do that?

Or, are people being reinfected with a different strain?

Unlikely.

As far as “Still With Us”, “Mutating Strains” & “Possibility of Reinfection” goes
one has to look no further than the “Common Cold VIRUS”

poikilotherm said:

sibeen said:

poikilotherm said:

Don’t really know yet, in proper lab conditions it’s 0, apparently.

I’d find that…surprising.

Yea, probably coz you’re an engineer…

“Researchers at the Foundation for Innovative New Diagnostics, a nonprofit research center in Geneva, tested five COVID-19 RT-PCR tests and found that all five achieved 100% sensitivity on positive samples, and at least 96% specificity on negative samples in a laboratory setting….Researchers still don’t know what the real-world false positive rate is”

From some random googlin’.

rangoogle

roughbarked said:

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Really? That was your major takeaway from that article?

Yes really, there is not a single vote in arguing over rally numbers.
The story is not fucking rally numbers, put the rally numbers away, it’s a dry gully, stop focusing on fucking rally numbers.
The story is the kid thinks 80,000 deaths is a conspiracy, that’s the story, stay focused on the story.
shakes head

Not sure the kid is allowed to think.

Great line from Multiplicity
“Ya’know how when you make
a copy of a copy, each copy is just
a LITTLE Less Sharp than the original?”

Make No Mistake About It;
as impossible as it may sounds
Eric is Even DUMBER THAT > Donald!

TRUST ME! /-:<

Ogmog said:

roughbarked said:

Not sure the kid is allowed to think.

Great line from Multiplicity
“Ya’know how when you make
a copy of a copy, each copy is just
a LITTLE Less Sharp than the original?”

Make No Mistake About It;
as impossible as it may sounds
Eric is Even DUMBER THAT > Donald!

TRUST ME! /-:<

Make No Mistake About It;
as impossible as it may sound
Eric is Even DUMBER THAN> Donald!

ABC News:

‘Power no fans of sharing training hub with ‘archenemies’ Crows on the Gold Coast
AFL players have come back into group training ahead of a return to play but Port Adelaide coach Ken Hinkley is not happy at having to share a hub soon with the Crows on the Gold Coast.’

Well, Ken, tell your precious Crows to pack their bags, and you can all go back to the obscurity of Adelaide.

And we’ll see if anyone notices.

captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

‘Power no fans of sharing training hub with ‘archenemies’ Crows on the Gold Coast
AFL players have come back into group training ahead of a return to play but Port Adelaide coach Ken Hinkley is not happy at having to share a hub soon with the Crows on the Gold Coast.’

Well, Ken, tell your precious Crows to pack their bags, and you can all go back to the obscurity of Adelaide.

And we’ll see if anyone notices.

My error.

Ken and his delicate Power pack.

captain_spalding said:

captain_spalding said:

ABC News:

‘Power no fans of sharing training hub with ‘archenemies’ Crows on the Gold Coast
AFL players have come back into group training ahead of a return to play but Port Adelaide coach Ken Hinkley is not happy at having to share a hub soon with the Crows on the Gold Coast.’

Well, Ken, tell your precious Crows to pack their bags, and you can all go back to the obscurity of Adelaide.

And we’ll see if anyone notices.

My error.

Ken and his delicate Power pack.

Can’t say the game does anything for me.

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Peak Warming Man said:

It just gets crazier, I mean of everything Eric the Orange said Business Insiders rushes in and tries to nail EtO on campaign rally numbers.

Really? That was your major takeaway from that article?

Yes really, there is not a single vote in arguing over rally numbers.
The story is not fucking rally numbers, put the rally numbers away, it’s a dry gully, stop focusing on fucking rally numbers.
The story is the kid thinks 80,000 deaths is a conspiracy, that’s the story, stay focused on the story.
shakes head

While I agree that Eric Trump is a sad case within himself..

Here’s an idea…
Allow them to hold their Rally of the Faithful
(allow them to spread the virus among themselves)
ultimately killing off these dumbass shoot’em up Red Necks
exponentially taking them out of the equation once and for all! :-D

Hey, I can muse, can’t I? (-:{

roughbarked said:

poikilotherm said:

sibeen said:

I’d find that…surprising.

Yea, probably coz you’re an engineer…

“Researchers at the Foundation for Innovative New Diagnostics, a nonprofit research center in Geneva, tested five COVID-19 RT-PCR tests and found that all five achieved 100% sensitivity on positive samples, and at least 96% specificity on negative samples in a laboratory setting….Researchers still don’t know what the real-world false positive rate is”

From some random googlin’.

rangoogle

Makes sense. They do confirmation tests so the result of a false pos is just a slight period of worry, whereas the results of a false neg could be more people dead, so it seems wise to engineer it so that false negatives are next to 0% even if it means a few more false positives.

Peak Warming Man said:

dv said:

Really? That was your major takeaway from that article?

Yes really, there is not a single vote in arguing over rally numbers.
The story is not fucking rally numbers, put the rally numbers away, it’s a dry gully, stop focusing on fucking rally numbers.
The story is the kid thinks 80,000 deaths is a conspiracy, that’s the story, stay focused on the story.
shakes head

PWM, this is a news outlet. They aren’t trying to win votes, just present the news in its fullest context.

Speedy said:

buffy said:

Divine Angel said:

Or, are people being reinfected with a different strain?

Or, are the tests picking up virus fragments that have not cleared from the body?

All of the above. This entire coronavirus thing didn’t bother me much until I heard about that Australian cruise couple who tested positive again after testing negative. The possibility of the virus staying dormant and resurfacing when, say, our immunity is lowered, is terrifying, as it could be a lifelong illness. I think on the day I read this I decided to keep my boys home from school.

It’s always possible of course, but reassuringly, dormant stuff is different biology to known coronavirus so far.

Coronavirus case at Melbourne’s Villa Maria aged care in Bundoora

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-18/villa-maria-aged-care-bundoora-melbourne-coronavirus/12257492

Bugger, my sister in law lives there :(

sibeen said:

Coronavirus case at Melbourne’s Villa Maria aged care in Bundoora

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-18/villa-maria-aged-care-bundoora-melbourne-coronavirus/12257492

Bugger, my sister in law lives there :(

I hope everything goes well for her (and everybody else, too).

sibeen said:

Coronavirus case at Melbourne’s Villa Maria aged care in Bundoora

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-18/villa-maria-aged-care-bundoora-melbourne-coronavirus/12257492

Bugger, my sister in law lives there :(

:(

I think Annastacia P got a bit mixed up on telly. She was asked if mandatory testing should be brought in for staff at nursing homes. She said testing wouldn’t pick up asymptomatic COVID cases.

Divine Angel said:

I think Annastacia P got a bit mixed up on telly. She was asked if mandatory testing should be brought in for staff at nursing homes. She said testing wouldn’t pick up asymptomatic COVID cases.

if you don’t test you won’t have any cases

Divine Angel said:

I think Annastacia P got a bit mixed up on telly. She was asked if mandatory testing should be brought in for staff at nursing homes. She said testing wouldn’t pick up asymptomatic COVID cases.

near Trumpian

Thank you all for not asking how my coronavirus modelling for RMIT is going.

I haven’t touched it in nearly two weeks.

Fat tail statistically speaking, after peak in new cases for both USA and UK. Neither is dropping off at anywhere like the expected rate. China and many other countries (eg. Austria) were quite close to a bell curve. Almost all other countries have a rate of decline only slightly slower than the rate of rise.

dv said:

Divine Angel said:

I think Annastacia P got a bit mixed up on telly. She was asked if mandatory testing should be brought in for staff at nursing homes. She said testing wouldn’t pick up asymptomatic COVID cases.

near Trumpian

late

mollwollfumble said:

Fat tail statistically speaking, after peak in new cases for both USA and UK. Neither is dropping off at anywhere like the expected rate. China and many other countries (eg. Austria) were quite close to a bell curve. Almost all other countries have a rate of decline only slightly slower than the rate of rise.

It’s not décline it’s test saturation in an inefficient distribution you mark our words.

https://medium.com/@yurideigin/lab-made-cov2-genealogy-through-the-lens-of-gain-of-function-research-f96dd7413748

> Divine Angel said:

> I think Annastacia P got a bit mixed up on telly. She was asked if mandatory testing should be brought in for staff at nursing homes. She said testing wouldn’t pick up asymptomatic COVID cases.

In one study of 175 Covid cases, 10 were asymptomatic and failed to show up on antibody testing. Apparently, fewer antibodies are produced in asymptomatic cases, or perhaps the antibodies targetted a different part of the virus so failed to show up.

For example, suppose a person has had a common cold caused by a different strain of coronavirus a year earlier. They might be resistant (asymptomatic) to Covid-19 because the antibodies work against Covid-19. But their asymptomatic Covid-19 may fail to show up on tests specifically aimed at excluding antibodies to other coronaviruses.

The issue of false positives and false negatives is a real one, especially with the fast blood tests for antibodies.

ChrispenEvan said:

https://medium.com/@yurideigin/lab-made-cov2-genealogy-through-the-lens-of-gain-of-function-research-f96dd7413748

lol how long did that take to come up with though there’s a lot of work in that

SCIENCE said:

ChrispenEvan said:

https://medium.com/@yurideigin/lab-made-cov2-genealogy-through-the-lens-of-gain-of-function-research-f96dd7413748

lol how long did that take to come up with though there’s a lot of work in that

I know. It was posted in a thread on the SSSF FB page. I just wonder if it really is accurate or not or is waffle with some truth.

ChrispenEvan said:

SCIENCE said:

ChrispenEvan said:

https://medium.com/@yurideigin/lab-made-cov2-genealogy-through-the-lens-of-gain-of-function-research-f96dd7413748

lol how long did that take to come up with though there’s a lot of work in that

I know. It was posted in a thread on the SSSF FB page. I just wonder if it really is accurate or not or is waffle with some truth.

It’s highly entertaining but hard to appreciate on a small mobile telephone screen, fairly well punned.

SCIENCE said:

ChrispenEvan said:

SCIENCE said:

lol how long did that take to come up with though there’s a lot of work in that

I know. It was posted in a thread on the SSSF FB page. I just wonder if it really is accurate or not or is waffle with some truth.

It’s highly entertaining but hard to appreciate on a small mobile telephone screen, fairly well punned.

Can someone here make a call on it because my study of Fortescue’s symmetrical components and fault levels in HV networks never really covered this area.

sibeen said:

SCIENCE said:

ChrispenEvan said:

I know. It was posted in a thread on the SSSF FB page. I just wonder if it really is accurate or not or is waffle with some truth.

It’s highly entertaining but hard to appreciate on a small mobile telephone screen, fairly well punned.

Can someone here make a call on it because my study of Fortescue’s symmetrical components and fault levels in HV networks never really covered this area.

I’m only 60% though it at the moment.

Michael V said:

sibeen said:

SCIENCE said:

It’s highly entertaining but hard to appreciate on a small mobile telephone screen, fairly well punned.

Can someone here make a call on it because my study of Fortescue’s symmetrical components and fault levels in HV networks never really covered this area.

I’m only 60% though it at the moment.

you’re a brick, MV.

ChrispenEvan said:

Michael V said:

sibeen said:

Can someone here make a call on it because my study of Fortescue’s symmetrical components and fault levels in HV networks never really covered this area.

I’m only 60% though it at the moment.

you’re a brick, MV.

There, Sir Ambassador, thou beholdest the walls of Sparta—ten thousand men, and every man a brick!

sibeen said:

SCIENCE said:

ChrispenEvan said:

I know. It was posted in a thread on the SSSF FB page. I just wonder if it really is accurate or not or is waffle with some truth.

It’s highly entertaining but hard to appreciate on a small mobile telephone screen, fairly well punned.

Can someone here make a call on it because my study of Fortescue’s symmetrical components and fault levels in HV networks never really covered this area.

It’s a Russian disinformation. Maybe Xi has pissed Putin off somehow.

ChrispenEvan said:

Michael V said:

sibeen said:

Can someone here make a call on it because my study of Fortescue’s symmetrical components and fault levels in HV networks never really covered this area.

I’m only 60% though it at the moment.

you’re a brick, MV.

Summary:

It may be possible to build the SARS-COV-2 virus in a lab. Several labs around the world have been inserting bits and pieces into viruses somewhat related to SARS-COV-2, including the Wuhan lab. Escapes from labs have occurred. Don’t entirely discount the notion that it could have been lab-produced and escaped. No evidence was produced that this was the case though.

Michael V said:

ChrispenEvan said:

Michael V said:

I’m only 60% though it at the moment.

you’re a brick, MV.

Summary:

It may be possible to build the SARS-COV-2 virus in a lab. Several labs around the world have been inserting bits and pieces into viruses somewhat related to SARS-COV-2, including the Wuhan lab. Escapes from labs have occurred. Don’t entirely discount the notion that it could have been lab-produced and escaped. No evidence was produced that this was the case though.

thank you mr V.

ChrispenEvan said:

Michael V said:

ChrispenEvan said:

you’re a brick, MV.

Summary:

It may be possible to build the SARS-COV-2 virus in a lab. Several labs around the world have been inserting bits and pieces into viruses somewhat related to SARS-COV-2, including the Wuhan lab. Escapes from labs have occurred. Don’t entirely discount the notion that it could have been lab-produced and escaped. No evidence was produced that this was the case though.

thank you mr V.

No worries. It was interesting, but long…

“Key points:
Chinese President Xi Jinping says his country has acted with ‘openness and transparency” throughout the coronavirus outbreak

Mr Xi said China would support an WHO-led investigation into the pandemic

Australia is expected to back a draft resolution from the EU calling for an independent inquiry

Mr Xi told the World Health Assembly in Geneva that China had been open and transparent about the coronavirus outbreak which started in Hubei province in late 2019, and said his country would support an investigation “conducted in an objective and impartial way”.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-18/xi-jinping-addresses-wha-agreed-coronavirus-investigation/12260690

“China will impose an 80 per cent tariff on Australian barley imports from tomorrow, saying the product has been illegally dumped into the Chinese market against trade rules.

The import tax will remain in place for five years, according to a statement from China’s Ministry of Commerce.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-18/china-to-impose-tariffs-on-australian-barley/12261108

Michael V said:

“Key points:
Chinese President Xi Jinping says his country has acted with ‘openness and transparency” throughout the coronavirus outbreak

Mr Xi said China would support an WHO-led investigation into the pandemic

Australia is expected to back a draft resolution from the EU calling for an independent inquiry

Mr Xi told the World Health Assembly in Geneva that China had been open and transparent about the coronavirus outbreak which started in Hubei province in late 2019, and said his country would support an investigation “conducted in an objective and impartial way”.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-18/xi-jinping-addresses-wha-agreed-coronavirus-investigation/12260690

China to impose 80 per cent tariff on Australian barley

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-18/china-to-impose-tariffs-on-australian-barley/12261108

sibeen said:

Michael V said:

“Key points:
Chinese President Xi Jinping says his country has acted with ‘openness and transparency” throughout the coronavirus outbreak

Mr Xi said China would support an WHO-led investigation into the pandemic

Australia is expected to back a draft resolution from the EU calling for an independent inquiry

Mr Xi told the World Health Assembly in Geneva that China had been open and transparent about the coronavirus outbreak which started in Hubei province in late 2019, and said his country would support an investigation “conducted in an objective and impartial way”.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-18/xi-jinping-addresses-wha-agreed-coronavirus-investigation/12260690

China to impose 80 per cent tariff on Australian barley

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-18/china-to-impose-tariffs-on-australian-barley/12261108

The late Mr sibeen…

Michael V said:

ChrispenEvan said:

Michael V said:

I’m only 60% though it at the moment.

you’re a brick, MV.

Summary:

It may be possible to build the SARS-COV-2 virus in a lab. Several labs around the world have been inserting bits and pieces into viruses somewhat related to SARS-COV-2, including the Wuhan lab. Escapes from labs have occurred. Don’t entirely discount the notion that it could have been lab-produced and escaped. No evidence was produced that this was the case though.

nicerods this

RaBtCoV/4991 was collected in a mineshaft located in the Mojiang county, which is under the jurisdiction of Pu’er City:

or this

How I Learned to Hate the GOF
I hope this post is not used to prematurely assign blame or propagate one

Michael V said:

sibeen said:

Michael V said:

“Key points:
Chinese President Xi Jinping says his country has acted with ‘openness and transparency” throughout the coronavirus outbreak

Mr Xi said China would support an WHO-led investigation into the pandemic

Australia is expected to back a draft resolution from the EU calling for an independent inquiry

Mr Xi told the World Health Assembly in Geneva that China had been open and transparent about the coronavirus outbreak which started in Hubei province in late 2019, and said his country would support an investigation “conducted in an objective and impartial way”.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-18/xi-jinping-addresses-wha-agreed-coronavirus-investigation/12260690

China to impose 80 per cent tariff on Australian barley

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-18/china-to-impose-tariffs-on-australian-barley/12261108

The late Mr sibeen…

He came back to life the bugger…

sibeen said:

Michael V said:

“Key points:
Chinese President Xi Jinping says his country has acted with ‘openness and transparency” throughout the coronavirus outbreak

Mr Xi said China would support an WHO-led investigation into the pandemic

Australia is expected to back a draft resolution from the EU calling for an independent inquiry

Mr Xi told the World Health Assembly in Geneva that China had been open and transparent about the coronavirus outbreak which started in Hubei province in late 2019, and said his country would support an investigation “conducted in an objective and impartial way”.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-18/xi-jinping-addresses-wha-agreed-coronavirus-investigation/12260690

China to impose 80 per cent tariff on Australian barley

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-18/china-to-impose-tariffs-on-australian-barley/12261108

Seems a bit silly. But that’s China.

There is fuck all chance of the government removing the diesel fuel rebate on the rest of farming and all of mining just to appease the Chinese on barley.

Witty Rejoinder said:

Michael V said:

sibeen said:

China to impose 80 per cent tariff on Australian barley

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-18/china-to-impose-tariffs-on-australian-barley/12261108

The late Mr sibeen…

He came back to life the bugger…

LOL

party_pants said:

sibeen said:

Michael V said:

“Key points:
Chinese President Xi Jinping says his country has acted with ‘openness and transparency” throughout the coronavirus outbreak

Mr Xi said China would support an WHO-led investigation into the pandemic

Australia is expected to back a draft resolution from the EU calling for an independent inquiry

Mr Xi told the World Health Assembly in Geneva that China had been open and transparent about the coronavirus outbreak which started in Hubei province in late 2019, and said his country would support an investigation “conducted in an objective and impartial way”.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-18/xi-jinping-addresses-wha-agreed-coronavirus-investigation/12260690

China to impose 80 per cent tariff on Australian barley

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-18/china-to-impose-tariffs-on-australian-barley/12261108

Seems a bit silly. But that’s China.

There is fuck all chance of the government removing the diesel fuel rebate on the rest of farming and all of mining just to appease the Chinese on barley.

Is that their complaint?

Michael V said:

party_pants said:

sibeen said:

China to impose 80 per cent tariff on Australian barley

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-18/china-to-impose-tariffs-on-australian-barley/12261108

Seems a bit silly. But that’s China.

There is fuck all chance of the government removing the diesel fuel rebate on the rest of farming and all of mining just to appease the Chinese on barley.

Is that their complaint?

One of. They are claiming that Australian barely is artificially cheap and is being dumped on world markets. Which seems a bit strange because we don’t have direct farming subsidies.

Michael V said:

“Key points:
Chinese President Xi Jinping says his country has acted with ‘openness and transparency” throughout the coronavirus outbreak

Mr Xi said China would support an WHO-led investigation into the pandemic

Australia is expected to back a draft resolution from the EU calling for an independent inquiry

Mr Xi told the World Health Assembly in Geneva that China had been open and transparent about the coronavirus outbreak which started in Hubei province in late 2019, and said his country would support an investigation “conducted in an objective and impartial way”.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-18/xi-jinping-addresses-wha-agreed-coronavirus-investigation/12260690

so are we trying to bypass WHO or are we going to agree, what is “independent” hey

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

“Key points:
Chinese President Xi Jinping says his country has acted with ‘openness and transparency” throughout the coronavirus outbreak

Mr Xi said China would support an WHO-led investigation into the pandemic

Australia is expected to back a draft resolution from the EU calling for an independent inquiry

Mr Xi told the World Health Assembly in Geneva that China had been open and transparent about the coronavirus outbreak which started in Hubei province in late 2019, and said his country would support an investigation “conducted in an objective and impartial way”.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-18/xi-jinping-addresses-wha-agreed-coronavirus-investigation/12260690

so are we trying to bypass WHO or are we going to agree, what is “independent” hey

What’s the difference between the WHO and WHA?

party_pants said:

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

“Key points:
Chinese President Xi Jinping says his country has acted with ‘openness and transparency” throughout the coronavirus outbreak

Mr Xi said China would support an WHO-led investigation into the pandemic

Australia is expected to back a draft resolution from the EU calling for an independent inquiry

Mr Xi told the World Health Assembly in Geneva that China had been open and transparent about the coronavirus outbreak which started in Hubei province in late 2019, and said his country would support an investigation “conducted in an objective and impartial way”.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-18/xi-jinping-addresses-wha-agreed-coronavirus-investigation/12260690

so are we trying to bypass WHO or are we going to agree, what is “independent” hey

What’s the difference between the WHO and WHA?

The WHA is the decision making body of the WHO I think.

party_pants said:

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

“Key points:
Chinese President Xi Jinping says his country has acted with ‘openness and transparency” throughout the coronavirus outbreak

Mr Xi said China would support an WHO-led investigation into the pandemic

Australia is expected to back a draft resolution from the EU calling for an independent inquiry

Mr Xi told the World Health Assembly in Geneva that China had been open and transparent about the coronavirus outbreak which started in Hubei province in late 2019, and said his country would support an investigation “conducted in an objective and impartial way”.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-18/xi-jinping-addresses-wha-agreed-coronavirus-investigation/12260690

so are we trying to bypass WHO or are we going to agree, what is “independent” hey

What’s the difference between the WHO and WHA?

article claims

The World Health Assembly is the annual meeting in Geneva of all 194 members of the World Health Organization, but due to coronavirus this year’s assembly is being held online.

SCIENCE said:

party_pants said:

SCIENCE said:

so are we trying to bypass WHO or are we going to agree, what is “independent” hey

What’s the difference between the WHO and WHA?

article claims

The World Health Assembly is the annual meeting in Geneva of all 194 members of the World Health Organization, but due to coronavirus this year’s assembly is being held online.

10-4

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

“Key points:
Chinese President Xi Jinping says his country has acted with ‘openness and transparency” throughout the coronavirus outbreak

Mr Xi said China would support an WHO-led investigation into the pandemic

Australia is expected to back a draft resolution from the EU calling for an independent inquiry

Mr Xi told the World Health Assembly in Geneva that China had been open and transparent about the coronavirus outbreak which started in Hubei province in late 2019, and said his country would support an investigation “conducted in an objective and impartial way”.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-18/xi-jinping-addresses-wha-agreed-coronavirus-investigation/12260690

so are we trying to bypass WHO or are we going to agree, what is “independent” hey

note we would consider dismissal of WHO to be along similar lines to dismissal of various institutions seen to be part of “checks and balances” unless there is good evidence to the contrary, or alternatively how about pulling out of a non-proliferation kind of agreement with Iran

party_pants said:

Michael V said:

party_pants said:

Seems a bit silly. But that’s China.

There is fuck all chance of the government removing the diesel fuel rebate on the rest of farming and all of mining just to appease the Chinese on barley.

Is that their complaint?

One of. They are claiming that Australian barely is artificially cheap and is being dumped on world markets. Which seems a bit strange because we don’t have direct farming subsidies.

The Diesel fuel rebate provides substantial tax relief to primary industries. They buy a lot of other primary products from us. So other products could potentially be in the firing line…

What are the other complaints about barley?

party_pants said:

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

“Key points:
Chinese President Xi Jinping says his country has acted with ‘openness and transparency” throughout the coronavirus outbreak

Mr Xi said China would support an WHO-led investigation into the pandemic

Australia is expected to back a draft resolution from the EU calling for an independent inquiry

Mr Xi told the World Health Assembly in Geneva that China had been open and transparent about the coronavirus outbreak which started in Hubei province in late 2019, and said his country would support an investigation “conducted in an objective and impartial way”.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-18/xi-jinping-addresses-wha-agreed-coronavirus-investigation/12260690

so are we trying to bypass WHO or are we going to agree, what is “independent” hey

What’s the difference between the WHO and WHA?

WHA sits above WHO and informs it about what to do.

Michael V said:

party_pants said:

SCIENCE said:

so are we trying to bypass WHO or are we going to agree, what is “independent” hey

What’s the difference between the WHO and WHA?

WHA sits above WHO and informs it about what to do.

It has an executive function. Similar to a company’s board of directors.

https://www.facebook.com/drbillmillercomedian/videos/237653220665054/?d=null&vh=e

Doctor shares his opinion about air force flyovers to salute medical staff

Michael V said:

sibeen said:

Michael V said:

“Key points:
Chinese President Xi Jinping says his country has acted with ‘openness and transparency” throughout the coronavirus outbreak

Mr Xi said China would support an WHO-led investigation into the pandemic

Australia is expected to back a draft resolution from the EU calling for an independent inquiry

Mr Xi told the World Health Assembly in Geneva that China had been open and transparent about the coronavirus outbreak which started in Hubei province in late 2019, and said his country would support an investigation “conducted in an objective and impartial way”.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-18/xi-jinping-addresses-wha-agreed-coronavirus-investigation/12260690

China to impose 80 per cent tariff on Australian barley

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-18/china-to-impose-tariffs-on-australian-barley/12261108

The late Mr sibeen…

Don’t judge me.

Michael V said:

ChrispenEvan said:

Michael V said:

I’m only 60% though it at the moment.

you’re a brick, MV.

Summary:

It may be possible to build the SARS-COV-2 virus in a lab. Several labs around the world have been inserting bits and pieces into viruses somewhat related to SARS-COV-2, including the Wuhan lab. Escapes from labs have occurred. Don’t entirely discount the notion that it could have been lab-produced and escaped. No evidence was produced that this was the case though.

Experts in the field clearly state that there no way this virus could have been manufactured in a laboratory.

PermeateFree said:

Michael V said:

ChrispenEvan said:

you’re a brick, MV.

Summary:

It may be possible to build the SARS-COV-2 virus in a lab. Several labs around the world have been inserting bits and pieces into viruses somewhat related to SARS-COV-2, including the Wuhan lab. Escapes from labs have occurred. Don’t entirely discount the notion that it could have been lab-produced and escaped. No evidence was produced that this was the case though.

Experts in the field clearly state that there no way this virus could have been manufactured in a laboratory.

That is to say, the virus could be manufactured, but would be easily detectable by the snippets from other similar types of virus.

lol

Belgium appears to have the highest coronavirus mortality rate in the world. Here’s why

Belgium is at the top of the list at the moment and the US is now in seventh place.

dv said:

https://www.facebook.com/drbillmillercomedian/videos/237653220665054/?d=null&vh=e

Doctor shares his opinion about air force flyovers to salute medical staff

maybe but imagine how much moore clover for Flock Immunity they could have bought with $14M of flights for corrupt inner city raving lunatics

Apparently the Breaking News is that …
… not only have West Taiwan been Open and Honest about the outbreak, as opposed to somehow faking lockdown pollution levels and faking control and faking reopening activity
… it’s not even like they are Against A Fair Investigation, they actually Support It Instead Of An AUUSUK Investigation
… the whole accusation of a Trade Dispute is a Colossal Lie, and they are actually just trying to Clear Deteriorating Stockpiles*!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/rural-news/2016-02-12/chinese-commodity-stockpiles/7163704

*: stockpiles, like for example “90 days of oil”, which it is always wise to have at least some of

zOMG

fk these ABC journalists jokers are communists

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

https://www.facebook.com/drbillmillercomedian/videos/237653220665054/?d=null&vh=e

Doctor shares his opinion about air force flyovers to salute medical staff

maybe but imagine how much moore clover for Flock Immunity they could have bought with $14M of flights for corrupt inner city raving lunatics

I don’t think we need flyovers for corona deaths.

We need faster response times at airports and sea terminals.

We need better ways of handling virus filled jumbo planes from overseas

We need better ways of handling virus filled cruise ships from overseas.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Belgium appears to have the highest coronavirus mortality rate in the world. Here’s why

Belgium is at the top of the list at the moment and the US is now in seventh place.

For most countries around the world, the COVID-19 death toll is tallied from patients in hospital who tested positive for the coronavirus.

But Belgium has gone further than that, also including the deaths of non-hospitalised people who are suspected of having the virus.

So, in nursing homes, for instance, it is registering deaths based on the assessment of the medical doctor, which takes into account symptoms they’ve shown and if they’ve been in contact with confirmed cases.

—

LOL

In Contrast Here In Australia

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-18/two-deaths-of-people-previously-tested-postive-for-coronavirus/12261034

Two Tasmanians have died who previously tested positive for coronavirus and also had pre-existing health conditions, authorities have announced — but until the coroner can determine the circumstances of the deaths, the state toll from the illness remains at 13.

Leading The World!

https://fivethirtyeight.com/videos/do-you-buy-that-covid-19-deaths-are-overestimated/

Nate Silver believes Covid-19 deaths in the US are probably underestimated

Tau.Neutrino said:

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

https://www.facebook.com/drbillmillercomedian/videos/237653220665054/?d=null&vh=e

Doctor shares his opinion about air force flyovers to salute medical staff

maybe but imagine how much moore clover for Flock Immunity they could have bought with $14M of flights for corrupt inner city raving lunatics

I don’t think we need flyovers for corona deaths.

We need faster response times at airports and sea terminals.

We need better ways of handling virus filled jumbo planes from overseas

We need better ways of handling virus filled cruise ships from overseas.

faster response times yes

deal with arrivals yes

possibly just as important, possibly more, we need anyone in charge who has even 3/4 of a brain cell who understands that there is no conflict between health and economy, and that good health drives more economy, much less the other way around

https://theconversation.com/economists-back-social-distancing-34-9-in-new-economic-society-conversation-survey-138721

dv said:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/videos/do-you-buy-that-covid-19-deaths-are-overestimated/

Nate Silver believes Covid-19 deaths in the US are probably underestimated

Leading The World!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-18/why-belgium-has-a-high-number-of-coronavirus-deaths/12259032

Some have begun to turn to ‘excess mortality’

According to Johns Hopkins, countries throughout the world have reported very different case-fatality ratios, which is the number of deaths divided by the number of confirmed cases.

Some have already suggested a better way to measure the damage caused by the pandemic is to look at “excess mortality,” which looks at the gap between the total number of people who died, and the historical average for the same place and time of year.

While there are some potential issues with using this method as well, some experts — along with the Economist magazine — have begun using it to better compare countries.

Going by this method, the Economist suggests that the United Kingdom has one of the worst excess death tolls when measured against the overall population.

SCIENCE said:

lol

Lots of love to you too SCIENCE. :))

Moderna’s closely watched early-stage human trial for a coronavirus vaccine produced Covid-19 antibodies in all 45 participants.Each participant received a 25, 100 or 250 microgram dose, with 15 people in each dose group.At day 43, or two weeks following the second dose, levels of binding antibodies in the 25 microgram group were at the levels generally seen in blood samples from people who recovered from the disease.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/18/moderna-reports-positive-data-on-early-stage-coronavirus-vaccine-trial.html

Morning

Chinese President Xi Jinping defends coronavirus response, backs WHO-led investigation

Chinese President Xi Jinping has defended China’s handling of the coronavirus outbreak and will support a “comprehensive review” led by the World Health Organization into the global response after the virus is brought under control.

more…

“Queensland may never beat coronavirus, experts say, as 42 cases remain untraceable”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-19/coronavirus-queensland-epidemiological-link/12259336

Michael V said:

“Queensland may never beat coronavirus, experts say, as 42 cases remain untraceable”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-19/coronavirus-queensland-epidemiological-link/12259336

it might help if we lose the obsession with “R < 1” and think in terms of “R ~ 0” but hey anything for the economy right, it’s like war, if the enemy is gone then how can we sell guns, no economy without fear

SCIENCE said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Belgium appears to have the highest coronavirus mortality rate in the world. Here’s why

Belgium is at the top of the list at the moment and the US is now in seventh place.

For most countries around the world, the COVID-19 death toll is tallied from patients in hospital who tested positive for the coronavirus.

But Belgium has gone further than that, also including the deaths of non-hospitalised people who are suspected of having the virus.

So, in nursing homes, for instance, it is registering deaths based on the assessment of the medical doctor, which takes into account symptoms they’ve shown and if they’ve been in contact with confirmed cases.

—

LOL

In Contrast Here In Australia

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-18/two-deaths-of-people-previously-tested-postive-for-coronavirus/12261034

Two Tasmanians have died who previously tested positive for coronavirus and also had pre-existing health conditions, authorities have announced — but until the coroner can determine the circumstances of the deaths, the state toll from the illness remains at 13.

Leading The World!

Definitions, hey.

Who knew! Post viral fatigue is a “thing”. (Of course it’s a thing. It’s been known about for a long time now)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-19/covid-fatigue-one-of-worst-symptons-patients-say/12252602

https://sci-hub.tw/https://doi.org/10.1093/oxfordjournals.bmb.a072521

buffy said:

Who knew! Post viral fatigue is a “thing”. (Of course it’s a thing. It’s been known about for a long time now)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-19/covid-fatigue-one-of-worst-symptons-patients-say/12252602

Yea, it’s like common sequale from viral infections are all of a sudden new because covid.

42 cases of COVID untraceable; “If you have respiratory symptoms, it’s more likely to be COVID than anything else.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-19/coronavirus-queensland-epidemiological-link/12259336

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-19/coronavirus-rental-hardship-pushed-down-the-line/12259322

Divine Angel said:

42 cases of COVID untraceable; “If you have respiratory symptoms, it’s more likely to be COVID than anything else.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-19/coronavirus-queensland-epidemiological-link/12259336

it might help if we lose the obsession with “R < 1” and think in terms of “R ~ 0” but hey anything for the economy right, it’s like war, if the enemy is gone then how can we sell guns, no economy without fear

ChrispenEvan said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-19/coronavirus-rental-hardship-pushed-down-the-line/12259322

well we suppose they could just leave everyone to it and let the hardship happen right now

SCIENCE said:

ChrispenEvan said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-19/coronavirus-rental-hardship-pushed-down-the-line/12259322

well we suppose they could just leave everyone to it and let the hardship happen right now

might be homeless but you’d be debt free.

ChrispenEvan said:

SCIENCE said:

ChrispenEvan said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-19/coronavirus-rental-hardship-pushed-down-the-line/12259322

well we suppose they could just leave everyone to it and let the hardship happen right now

might be homeless but you’d be debt free.

excellent plan, soon we’ll be back in black, can we let the federal government know

Washington: US President Donald Trump has revealed that he is taking the malaria drug hydroxychloroquine in a bid to prevent contracting COVID-19, even though his own health authorities have cautioned Americans against using the drug as a coronavirus treatment.

Trump stunned White House reporters on Monday (Tuesday AEST) by saying he has taken hydroxychloroquine and a zinc supplement daily “for about a week and a half now.”

Trump spent weeks pushing the drug, which is also used to treat ailments such as lupus, as a potential cure for COVID-19 against the cautionary advice of many of his administration’s top medical professionals.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/trump-says-he-s-taking-malaria-drug-unproven-for-coronavirus-symptoms-20200519-p54u76.html

dv said:

Washington: US President Donald Trump has revealed that he is taking the malaria drug hydroxychloroquine in a bid to prevent contracting COVID-19, even though his own health authorities have cautioned Americans against using the drug as a coronavirus treatment.

Trump stunned White House reporters on Monday (Tuesday AEST) by saying he has taken hydroxychloroquine and a zinc supplement daily “for about a week and a half now.”

Trump spent weeks pushing the drug, which is also used to treat ailments such as lupus, as a potential cure for COVID-19 against the cautionary advice of many of his administration’s top medical professionals.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/trump-says-he-s-taking-malaria-drug-unproven-for-coronavirus-symptoms-20200519-p54u76.html

one more week before the bleach and then we win

dv said:

Washington: US President Donald Trump has revealed that he is taking the malaria drug hydroxychloroquine in a bid to prevent contracting COVID-19, even though his own health authorities have cautioned Americans against using the drug as a coronavirus treatment.

Trump stunned White House reporters on Monday (Tuesday AEST) by saying he has taken hydroxychloroquine and a zinc supplement daily “for about a week and a half now.”

Trump spent weeks pushing the drug, which is also used to treat ailments such as lupus, as a potential cure for COVID-19 against the cautionary advice of many of his administration’s top medical professionals.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/trump-says-he-s-taking-malaria-drug-unproven-for-coronavirus-symptoms-20200519-p54u76.html

Someone should tell him about the many health benefits of colloidal silver. What Colour does blue + orange make?

Divine Angel said:

dv said:

Washington: US President Donald Trump has revealed that he is taking the malaria drug hydroxychloroquine in a bid to prevent contracting COVID-19, even though his own health authorities have cautioned Americans against using the drug as a coronavirus treatment.

Trump stunned White House reporters on Monday (Tuesday AEST) by saying he has taken hydroxychloroquine and a zinc supplement daily “for about a week and a half now.”

Trump spent weeks pushing the drug, which is also used to treat ailments such as lupus, as a potential cure for COVID-19 against the cautionary advice of many of his administration’s top medical professionals.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/trump-says-he-s-taking-malaria-drug-unproven-for-coronavirus-symptoms-20200519-p54u76.html

Someone should tell him about the many health benefits of colloidal silver. What Colour does blue + orange make?

pink

dv said:

Washington: US President Donald Trump has revealed that he is taking the malaria drug hydroxychloroquine in a bid to prevent contracting COVID-19, even though his own health authorities have cautioned Americans against using the drug as a coronavirus treatment.

Trump stunned White House reporters on Monday (Tuesday AEST) by saying he has taken hydroxychloroquine and a zinc supplement daily “for about a week and a half now.”

Trump spent weeks pushing the drug, which is also used to treat ailments such as lupus, as a potential cure for COVID-19 against the cautionary advice of many of his administration’s top medical professionals.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/trump-says-he-s-taking-malaria-drug-unproven-for-coronavirus-symptoms-20200519-p54u76.html

I wonder if he actually is or if his guys are giving him a tic tac.

Sao Paulo, Brazil (CNN)The health care system in Brazil’s largest city is wavering on the brink of collapse and coronavirus deaths throughout the South American nation are soaring — but President Jair Bolsonaro nonetheless reveled in crowds of supporters on Sunday, joining yet another anti-lockdown protest in Brasilia.

With Brazil still approaching its peak of cases, Sao Paulo’s mayor warned that the health system could be overwhelmed very soon if residents don’t follow social distancing guidelines.
“The city is coming to the limit of options,” Bruno Covas told journalists Sunday, warning that nine in ten intensive care beds were full. “We need to decide if we want to test the limits, or if we will be prudent and firmly maintain social isolation for the time needed so that the health system doesn’t collapse. We are closer than we would like.”
But there was a strikingly different message on display outside the President’s offices in Brasilia, where Bolsonaro appeared among crowds protesting the country’s lockdown measures on Sunday.
The populist leader, who has frequently dismissed the threat posed by Covid-19 even as it began to ravage his own nation, disregarded social distancing guidelines to pose with supporters. His appearances at such rallies have become a regular phenomenon.
At another engagement with a group of men in military outfits, he dropped to the ground to do pushups. “Above all (people) want freedom, they want democracy, they want respect,” he said in a video posted online.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/18/americas/brazil-coronavirus-sao-paulo-bolsonaro-rally-intl/index.html

Arts said:

dv said:

Washington: US President Donald Trump has revealed that he is taking the malaria drug hydroxychloroquine in a bid to prevent contracting COVID-19, even though his own health authorities have cautioned Americans against using the drug as a coronavirus treatment.

Trump stunned White House reporters on Monday (Tuesday AEST) by saying he has taken hydroxychloroquine and a zinc supplement daily “for about a week and a half now.”

Trump spent weeks pushing the drug, which is also used to treat ailments such as lupus, as a potential cure for COVID-19 against the cautionary advice of many of his administration’s top medical professionals.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/trump-says-he-s-taking-malaria-drug-unproven-for-coronavirus-symptoms-20200519-p54u76.html

I wonder if he actually is or if his guys are giving him a tic tac.

I heard he’s not good at taking medicine and they have to hide it inside food, bananas for example

dv said:

Sao Paulo, Brazil (CNN)The health care system in Brazil’s largest city is wavering on the brink of collapse and coronavirus deaths throughout the South American nation are soaring — but President Jair Bolsonaro nonetheless reveled in crowds of supporters on Sunday, joining yet another anti-lockdown protest in Brasilia.

With Brazil still approaching its peak of cases, Sao Paulo’s mayor warned that the health system could be overwhelmed very soon if residents don’t follow social distancing guidelines.
“The city is coming to the limit of options,” Bruno Covas told journalists Sunday, warning that nine in ten intensive care beds were full. “We need to decide if we want to test the limits, or if we will be prudent and firmly maintain social isolation for the time needed so that the health system doesn’t collapse. We are closer than we would like.”
But there was a strikingly different message on display outside the President’s offices in Brasilia, where Bolsonaro appeared among crowds protesting the country’s lockdown measures on Sunday.
The populist leader, who has frequently dismissed the threat posed by Covid-19 even as it began to ravage his own nation, disregarded social distancing guidelines to pose with supporters. His appearances at such rallies have become a regular phenomenon.
At another engagement with a group of men in military outfits, he dropped to the ground to do pushups. “Above all (people) want freedom, they want democracy, they want respect,” he said in a video posted online.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/18/americas/brazil-coronavirus-sao-paulo-bolsonaro-rally-intl/index.html

maybe that’s the correct endpoint, we want a society of the tough, who don’t worry about an elderly death or two, won’t be held back by inconvenient sentimentality

the rest of us have it wrong

Cymek said:

Arts said:

dv said:

Washington: US President Donald Trump has revealed that he is taking the malaria drug hydroxychloroquine in a bid to prevent contracting COVID-19, even though his own health authorities have cautioned Americans against using the drug as a coronavirus treatment.

Trump stunned White House reporters on Monday (Tuesday AEST) by saying he has taken hydroxychloroquine and a zinc supplement daily “for about a week and a half now.”

Trump spent weeks pushing the drug, which is also used to treat ailments such as lupus, as a potential cure for COVID-19 against the cautionary advice of many of his administration’s top medical professionals.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/trump-says-he-s-taking-malaria-drug-unproven-for-coronavirus-symptoms-20200519-p54u76.html

I wonder if he actually is or if his guys are giving him a tic tac.

I heard he’s not good at taking medicine and they have to hide it inside food, bananas for example

I think he only eats maccas.

I had the test done last Wednesday, was feeling unwell for over a week, it came back negative the results took less than a day

you’d have thought that in 2020 and with a disruptive occasion to come up with new methods, humans (especially in a “first world country”) would be able to innovate some new styles of delivering education

remember how there were all these “learning styles” advocates who had some issue with didactic classroom learning, well, where are they now

what about the students who have discovered that an online platform is better for their learning, are we meant to be forcing them back into classrooms

buffy said:

Who knew! Post viral fatigue is a “thing”. (Of course it’s a thing. It’s been known about for a long time now)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-19/covid-fatigue-one-of-worst-symptons-patients-say/12252602

Is it more common with this new thing though, and why haven’t we heard about it from the Coverup Countries ¿

Seems there is some discrepancy between the Worldometer and JH US deathcounts.

dv said:

Seems there is some discrepancy between the Worldometer and JH US deathcounts.

Higher or lower ?

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

Washington: US President Donald Trump has revealed that he is taking the malaria drug hydroxychloroquine in a bid to prevent contracting COVID-19, even though his own health authorities have cautioned Americans against using the drug as a coronavirus treatment.

Trump stunned White House reporters on Monday (Tuesday AEST) by saying he has taken hydroxychloroquine and a zinc supplement daily “for about a week and a half now.”

Trump spent weeks pushing the drug, which is also used to treat ailments such as lupus, as a potential cure for COVID-19 against the cautionary advice of many of his administration’s top medical professionals.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/trump-says-he-s-taking-malaria-drug-unproven-for-coronavirus-symptoms-20200519-p54u76.html

one more week before the bleach and then we win

LOLOLOLOLOL

economists pretending to care by citing unspecified and unclear potential mortality and morbidity costs

https://www.abc.net.au/7.30/some-economists-and-commentators-argue-that/12260996

I noticed this week trains are back to about 1/4 to 1/3 of normal capacity, previously they were perhaps just 1/10

dv said:

honestly it must be easier to stage this stuff than do a shoddy shop job, surely it must be

“I cannot stress this enough, this will kill you’: Fox News host Neil Cavuto was shocked by Trump’s announcement that he’s taking hydroxychloroquine to prevent coronavirus.

Fox News host Neil Cavuto was stunned by President Donald Trump’s announcement on Monday that he was taking hydroxychloroquine as a preventive treatment for coronavirus. A recent study by the Department of Veterans Affairs found hydroxychloroquine is linked to higher death rates for VA patients hospitalized with the disease. Citing the study, Cavuto warned: “If you are in a risky population here, and you are taking this as a preventative treatment to ward off the virus or in a worst-case scenario you are dealing with the virus, and you are in this vulnerable population, it will kill you. I cannot stress enough: This will kill you.” “This is a leap that should not be taken casually by those watching at home who are assuming, well, the president of the United States says it’s OK,” he added. “I only make this not to make a political point here, but a life-and-death point. Be very, very careful.”

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/fox-news-neil-cavuto-shocked-trump-hyroxychloroquine-announcement-video-2020-5

Does Trump come with a Wormtongue?

dv said:

“I cannot stress this enough, this will kill you’: Fox News host Neil Cavuto was shocked by Trump’s announcement that he’s taking hydroxychloroquine to prevent coronavirus.

Fox News host Neil Cavuto was stunned by President Donald Trump’s announcement on Monday that he was taking hydroxychloroquine as a preventive treatment for coronavirus. A recent study by the Department of Veterans Affairs found hydroxychloroquine is linked to higher death rates for VA patients hospitalized with the disease. Citing the study, Cavuto warned: “If you are in a risky population here, and you are taking this as a preventative treatment to ward off the virus or in a worst-case scenario you are dealing with the virus, and you are in this vulnerable population, it will kill you. I cannot stress enough: This will kill you.” “This is a leap that should not be taken casually by those watching at home who are assuming, well, the president of the United States says it’s OK,” he added. “I only make this not to make a political point here, but a life-and-death point. Be very, very careful.”

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/fox-news-neil-cavuto-shocked-trump-hyroxychloroquine-announcement-video-2020-5

I hope that the Very Stable Genius is indeed taking the drug.

My fear is that his doctors are just giving him an aspirin each morning and telling him that it’s hydroxychloroquine.

Sometimes, the much-cited Hippocratic Oath really is an impediment to humanity.

I mean it is supposed to be a prescription medication but given this is Trump’s doctor…

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-19/coronavirus-victorian-government-universities-support-package/12261664

So one of those nursing home people had a positive test, then a negative, and the one at Villa Maria had an inconclusive one. I understand the need to lockdown, just in case, because it’s a very vulnerable population. But I’m interested that the test results aren’t more cut and dried by now.

dv said:

LOLs

dv said:

Call them heroes even though they are forced to work out of necessity and have no choice

Promising news of a possible vaccine success has boosted world markets.

It would be fun if any vaccine also covers the common cold.

Peak Warming Man said:

Promising news of a possible vaccine success has boosted world markets.

Not CSL it hasn’t. CSL down 0.89% today.

Having said that, Aristocrat up 4.7%, Crown Casino up 2.5% and Star Casino up 3.9%

Casinos must have a financial interest in vaccines patents.

sarahs mum said:

It would be fun if any vaccine also covers the common cold.

Or one of them at least…

Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

It would be fun if any vaccine also covers the common cold.

Or one of them at least…

sure, on the other hand we’ve solved influenza with simple improved hygiene, imagine 2020

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

It would be fun if any vaccine also covers the common cold.

Or one of them at least…

sure, on the other hand we’ve solved influenza with simple improved hygiene, imagine 2020

Keep this up and no more viral sicknesses at all.

;)

WA coronavirus border closure to stay ‘for months’ as Mark McGowan rebuffs eastern states pressure

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-19/coronavirus-wa-border-closure-for-months-premier-mark-mcgowan/12262386

Not sure why they are making it sound like the east coast is all at sea, last we heard it was just Gladys subject to Corrupt Federal who said everyone should open ¿

Michael V said:

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

Or one of them at least…

sure, on the other hand we’ve solved influenza with simple improved hygiene, imagine 2020

Keep this up and no more viral sicknesses at all.

;)

Statistics on multiresistant bacteria will be interesting too.

SCIENCE said:

Michael V said:

SCIENCE said:

sure, on the other hand we’ve solved influenza with simple improved hygiene, imagine 2020

Keep this up and no more viral sicknesses at all.

;)

Statistics on multiresistant bacteria will be interesting too.

True.

SCIENCE said:

WA coronavirus border closure to stay ‘for months’ as Mark McGowan rebuffs eastern states pressure

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-19/coronavirus-wa-border-closure-for-months-premier-mark-mcgowan/12262386

Not sure why they are making it sound like the east coast is all at sea, last we heard it was just Gladys subject to Corrupt Federal who said everyone should open ¿

Gladys and Annastacia are having a row over opening the Qld-NSW border. Gladys says yes, Annastacia says nope.

Divine Angel said:

SCIENCE said:

WA coronavirus border closure to stay ‘for months’ as Mark McGowan rebuffs eastern states pressure

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-19/coronavirus-wa-border-closure-for-months-premier-mark-mcgowan/12262386

Not sure why they are making it sound like the east coast is all at sea, last we heard it was just Gladys subject to Corrupt Federal who said everyone should open ¿

Gladys and Annastacia are having a row over opening the Qld-NSW border. Gladys says yes, Annastacia says nope.

Anna doesn’t want Jackie Trad escaping over the border.

captain_spalding said:

Divine Angel said:

SCIENCE said:

WA coronavirus border closure to stay ‘for months’ as Mark McGowan rebuffs eastern states pressure

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-19/coronavirus-wa-border-closure-for-months-premier-mark-mcgowan/12262386

Not sure why they are making it sound like the east coast is all at sea, last we heard it was just Gladys subject to Corrupt Federal who said everyone should open ¿

Gladys and Annastacia are having a row over opening the Qld-NSW border. Gladys says yes, Annastacia says nope.

Anna doesn’t want Jackie Trad escaping over the border.

aside from state corruption, that’s what we mean — pretty sure QLD and VIC are east but not rushing to open

if Corrupt Federal are in such a hurry then maybe they should have been more accommodating to advances from NZ as well

SCIENCE said:

captain_spalding said:

Divine Angel said:

Gladys and Annastacia are having a row over opening the Qld-NSW border. Gladys says yes, Annastacia says nope.

Anna doesn’t want Jackie Trad escaping over the border.

aside from state corruption, that’s what we mean — pretty sure QLD and VIC are east but not rushing to open

if Corrupt Federal are in such a hurry then maybe they should have been more accommodating to advances from NZ as well

The Vic border with NSW is open. The border to SA is closed but nobody cares.

Send kYwwrs gyb andmojwy
Q-aa

AwesomeO said:

Send kYwwrs gyb andmojwy
Q-aa

Send (something) and money?

Flu not on the increase in Australia last week.

AwesomeO said:

Send kYwwrs gyb andmojwy
Q-aa

Eloquently put

mollwollfumble said:

Flu not on the increase in Australia last week.

I looked at the site for Flutracking. The questions are…very broad. You would have to say yes to cough every week. And probably to runny nose. Everyone coughs normally and most people have to blow their nose at least once a week.

https://www.flutracking.net/Demo/AU

Ian said:

AwesomeO said:

Send kYwwrs gyb andmojwy
Q-aa

Eloquently put

He is taking the opportunity to learn welsh…

Ian said:

AwesomeO said:

Send kYwwrs gyb andmojwy
Q-aa

Eloquently put

Sings Poor old kYwwrs He never got a kiss.

buffy said:

mollwollfumble said:

Flu not on the increase in Australia last week.

I looked at the site for Flutracking. The questions are…very broad. You would have to say yes to cough every week. And probably to runny nose. Everyone coughs normally and most people have to blow their nose at least once a week.

https://www.flutracking.net/Demo/AU

I do the flu tracking every week. I normally have a cough through winter due to low humidity (I had it checked out last year, chest X-rays and everything). And I blew my nose last night because hot soup always makes my nose run.

sibeen said:

SCIENCE said:

captain_spalding said:

Anna doesn’t want Jackie Trad escaping over the border.

aside from state corruption, that’s what we mean — pretty sure QLD and VIC are east but not rushing to open

if Corrupt Federal are in such a hurry then maybe they should have been more accommodating to advances from NZ as well

The Vic border with NSW is open. The border to SA is closed but nobody cares.

Interesting, especially given they are the 2 states that are still registering new cases within the past day.

SCIENCE said:

sibeen said:

SCIENCE said:

aside from state corruption, that’s what we mean — pretty sure QLD and VIC are east but not rushing to open

if Corrupt Federal are in such a hurry then maybe they should have been more accommodating to advances from NZ as well

The Vic border with NSW is open. The border to SA is closed but nobody cares.

Interesting, especially given they are the 2 states that are still registering new cases within the past day.

In people who are in quarantine as new arrivals from overseas.

it’s WA’s first step in secession.

Rule 303 said:

SCIENCE said:

sibeen said:

The Vic border with NSW is open. The border to SA is closed but nobody cares.

Interesting, especially given they are the 2 states that are still registering new cases within the past day.

In people who are in quarantine as new arrivals from overseas.

Well, 1 out of 6 anyway.

Three cases are residents in nursing homes. One case is a resident at the Lynden Aged Care facility in Camberwell.

One case is a resident of the Hammond Care facility in Caulfield. One case, revealed yesterday, is a resident at the Villa Maria aged care home in Bundoora.

One case is linked to the Cedar Meats outbreak — that cluster has now reached 100.

One case is a returned traveller.

ChrispenEvan said:

it’s WA’s first step in secession.

So they can become Timor Timur jauh?

SCIENCE said:

Rule 303 said:

SCIENCE said:

Interesting, especially given they are the 2 states that are still registering new cases within the past day.

In people who are in quarantine as new arrivals from overseas.

Well, 1 out of 6 anyway.

Three cases are residents in nursing homes. One case is a resident at the Lynden Aged Care facility in Camberwell.

One case is a resident of the Hammond Care facility in Caulfield. One case, revealed yesterday, is a resident at the Villa Maria aged care home in Bundoora.

One case is linked to the Cedar Meats outbreak — that cluster has now reached 100.

One case is a returned traveller.

But… the news said.

Q ecorf for Facebook.

Tamb said:

ChrispenEvan said:

it’s WA’s first step in secession.

So they can become Timor Timur jauh?

South Taiwan

AwesomeO said:

Q ecorf for Facebook.

Question for facebook?

Rule 303 said:

SCIENCE said:

One case is a returned traveller.

But… the news said.

dunno, there’s probably some kind of cover up going on, we know where Dan’s loyalties lie

SCIENCE said:

Rule 303 said:

SCIENCE said:

One case is a returned traveller.

But… the news said.

dunno, there’s probably some kind of cover up going on, we know where Dan’s loyalties lie

Where, are you suggesting?

Rule 303 said:

SCIENCE said:

Rule 303 said:

But… the news said.

dunno, there’s probably some kind of cover up going on, we know where Dan’s loyalties lie

Where, are you suggesting?

nowhere, all you need is money, it’s quite mercenary really

or with the police states, possibly the same thing

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-19/coronavirus-australia-live-news-covid-19-100-deaths/12261174

More than $8 million in fines have been handed out to Victorians for breaching COVID-19 restrictions.

A parliamentary inquiry has been told 5,604 fines have been issued, and as yet none have been challenged in court.

The Attorney-General Jill Hennessey says Victoria Police have been reviewing how they issue fines, and showing some discretion.

“Certainly I am aware that Victoria Police have withdrawn a number of fines when people have made sensible explanations,” she said.

SCIENCE said:

Tamb said:

ChrispenEvan said:

it’s WA’s first step in secession.

So they can become Timor Timur jauh?

South Taiwan

Maybe the eastern part should secede and become WNZ

Hundreds of villages locked down in northeastern China after fresh coronavirus outbreak

https://7news.com.au/travel/coronavirus/hundreds-of-villages-locked-down-in-northeastern-china-after-fresh-coronavirus-outbreak-c-1042180

Hundreds of villages in China’s northeastern Jilin province have been placed under lockdown after a cluster of new coronavirus cases were reported in the region, local government officials said on Saturday.

Over 1000 residential buildings have also been quarantined in Shulan, a small city in the centre of the province, after cases were also reported there.

Most transport has also been halted to 1205 villages and their surrounding areas in a bid to control a fresh outbreak of the deadly disease.

The wider Jilin province, which includes Shulan, reported 121 local cases and 19 imported cases, according to the region’s health commission. The area was designated “high risk” earlier this week.

—-

Yet worldometer is showing 70 new cases in the last two weeks.

>>Hydroxychloroquine has also been used for years to dampen the immune system in people with autoimmune conditions.<<

From: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-19/hydroxychloroquine-why-is-donald-trump-taking-it-for-coronavirus/12262018

I think it might be useful for your immune system to be working if there are bugs around.

buffy said:

>>Hydroxychloroquine has also been used for years to dampen the immune system in people with autoimmune conditions.<<

From: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-19/hydroxychloroquine-why-is-donald-trump-taking-it-for-coronavirus/12262018

I think it might be useful for your immune system to be working if there are bugs around.

not if the damage is because of an overactive immune response

dv said:

Hundreds of villages locked down in northeastern China after fresh coronavirus outbreak

https://7news.com.au/travel/coronavirus/hundreds-of-villages-locked-down-in-northeastern-china-after-fresh-coronavirus-outbreak-c-1042180

Hundreds of villages in China’s northeastern Jilin province have been placed under lockdown after a cluster of new coronavirus cases were reported in the region, local government officials said on Saturday.

Over 1000 residential buildings have also been quarantined in Shulan, a small city in the centre of the province, after cases were also reported there.

Most transport has also been halted to 1205 villages and their surrounding areas in a bid to control a fresh outbreak of the deadly disease.

The wider Jilin province, which includes Shulan, reported 121 local cases and 19 imported cases, according to the region’s health commission. The area was designated “high risk” earlier this week.

—-

Yet worldometer is showing 70 new cases in the last two weeks.

see, what did we tell you about using biological warfare under the guise of “impossible infection control” to weaken your neighbours and prepare for annexation

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

Hundreds of villages locked down in northeastern China after fresh coronavirus outbreak

https://7news.com.au/travel/coronavirus/hundreds-of-villages-locked-down-in-northeastern-china-after-fresh-coronavirus-outbreak-c-1042180

Hundreds of villages in China’s northeastern Jilin province have been placed under lockdown after a cluster of new coronavirus cases were reported in the region, local government officials said on Saturday.

Over 1000 residential buildings have also been quarantined in Shulan, a small city in the centre of the province, after cases were also reported there.

Most transport has also been halted to 1205 villages and their surrounding areas in a bid to control a fresh outbreak of the deadly disease.

The wider Jilin province, which includes Shulan, reported 121 local cases and 19 imported cases, according to the region’s health commission. The area was designated “high risk” earlier this week.

—-

Yet worldometer is showing 70 new cases in the last two weeks.

see, what did we tell you about using biological warfare under the guise of “impossible infection control” to weaken your neighbours and prepare for annexation

Reasonably cheap way to mess up competition economies and health systems

well there we go just heard on the airwaves that if your student is not at school then they will be marked absent and that is illegal

not sure that it’s illegal to be marked absent from school but they said it, must be true

we remind the audience of course that being 3.5 years ahead, West Taiwanese students could be absent for 140 weeks before they catch down to us so worrying about an extra week of COVID-19 safety or otherwise is probably not the most important thing

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

Hundreds of villages locked down in northeastern China after fresh coronavirus outbreak

https://7news.com.au/travel/coronavirus/hundreds-of-villages-locked-down-in-northeastern-china-after-fresh-coronavirus-outbreak-c-1042180

Hundreds of villages in China’s northeastern Jilin province have been placed under lockdown after a cluster of new coronavirus cases were reported in the region, local government officials said on Saturday.

Over 1000 residential buildings have also been quarantined in Shulan, a small city in the centre of the province, after cases were also reported there.

Most transport has also been halted to 1205 villages and their surrounding areas in a bid to control a fresh outbreak of the deadly disease.

The wider Jilin province, which includes Shulan, reported 121 local cases and 19 imported cases, according to the region’s health commission. The area was designated “high risk” earlier this week.

—-

Yet worldometer is showing 70 new cases in the last two weeks.

see, what did we tell you about using biological warfare under the guise of “impossible infection control” to weaken your neighbours and prepare for annexation

I can’t remember.

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

dv said:

Hundreds of villages locked down in northeastern China after fresh coronavirus outbreak

https://7news.com.au/travel/coronavirus/hundreds-of-villages-locked-down-in-northeastern-china-after-fresh-coronavirus-outbreak-c-1042180

Hundreds of villages in China’s northeastern Jilin province have been placed under lockdown after a cluster of new coronavirus cases were reported in the region, local government officials said on Saturday.

Over 1000 residential buildings have also been quarantined in Shulan, a small city in the centre of the province, after cases were also reported there.

Most transport has also been halted to 1205 villages and their surrounding areas in a bid to control a fresh outbreak of the deadly disease.

The wider Jilin province, which includes Shulan, reported 121 local cases and 19 imported cases, according to the region’s health commission. The area was designated “high risk” earlier this week.

—-

Yet worldometer is showing 70 new cases in the last two weeks.

see, what did we tell you about using biological warfare under the guise of “impossible infection control” to weaken your neighbours and prepare for annexation

I can’t remember.

nothing, except the related idea that

We’re not convinced that in the USA it was intentional, at least at first, but in the case of Russia, hard to be sure.

As we have mentioned previously, when the Next Wave Of Imperialism comes all that the Axis Of Stupid need to do is send a vanguard of infectious over to any of the soft countries, and Good Game it is.

Why would Russia want to be soft for a USUK vanguard?

Has the Georgia Department of Public Health graph “Top Five Counties with the Greatest Number of Confirmed COVID-19 Cases” released last week been discussed here yet?

It’s a real doozy!

esselte said:

Has the Georgia Department of Public Health graph “Top Five Counties with the Greatest Number of Confirmed COVID-19 Cases” released last week been discussed here yet?

It’s a real doozy!

sounds promising, please discuss

esselte said:

Has the Georgia Department of Public Health graph “Top Five Counties with the Greatest Number of Confirmed COVID-19 Cases” released last week been discussed here yet?

It’s a real doozy!

LOLOLOLOL

dv said:

Hundreds of villages locked down in northeastern China after fresh coronavirus outbreak

https://7news.com.au/travel/coronavirus/hundreds-of-villages-locked-down-in-northeastern-china-after-fresh-coronavirus-outbreak-c-1042180

Hundreds of villages in China’s northeastern Jilin province have been placed under lockdown after a cluster of new coronavirus cases were reported in the region, local government officials said on Saturday.

Over 1000 residential buildings have also been quarantined in Shulan, a small city in the centre of the province, after cases were also reported there.

Most transport has also been halted to 1205 villages and their surrounding areas in a bid to control a fresh outbreak of the deadly disease.

The wider Jilin province, which includes Shulan, reported 121 local cases and 19 imported cases, according to the region’s health commission. The area was designated “high risk” earlier this week.

—-

Yet worldometer is showing 70 new cases in the last two weeks.

or 151 in total, everyone’s lying

(the article mentions some kind of Friday and the number then is one hundred and forty, which occasionally equals one hundred and twenty-one plus nineteen)

Seven of the 10 Formula One teams are based in England and plans for the season, which has yet to start due to the pandemic, would be disrupted by teams being forced into two weeks’ quarantine every time they return from abroad.

“A 14-day quarantine would make it impossible to have a British Grand Prix this year,” a Formula One spokesperson said.

“It has a major impact on literally tens of thousands of jobs linked to F1 and the supply chains. If all elite sport is to return to TV, then exemptions must be provided.”

—

more exceptionalism and demands for special treatment, not even against heavy restrictions but simple quarantine measures

dv said:

The World Health Organization’s head said he would keep leading the global fight against the coronavirus pandemic, after US President Donald Trump threatened to cut off funding and quit the body.

WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus defended the agency’s role after the US again withheld full support for a resolution on the pandemic.

The US mission in Geneva said in a statement that paragraphs on the right of poor countries to waive patents to obtain medicine during a health emergency would “send the wrong message to innovators” trying to produce new drugs and vaccines.

==> yes we wouldn’t want innovators to get a message that they should have some sense of altruism either, we want innovators to be selfish and greedy and violent as all USAoles should be

—

They added that the WHO’s reproductive healthcare language could be interpreted as requiring countries to permit abortion.

“The United States believes in legal protections for the unborn,” it said.

==> that’s right, but not for the already born, if they’re in shithole countries

—

looks like there’ll really be a lab made viral outbreak within 15 years and we know where it’ll be coming from too

The city of Wuhan, the original epicentre of the new coronavirus outbreak in China, conducted 467,847 nucleic acid tests on May 18, the local health authority said on Tuesday, up from the 335,887 tests a day earlier.

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wish they’d stop gloating about their decisive actions to eradicate disease and instead have been more generous in helping poor screwed up countries like Brazil

“The medical advice that I’ve received during this period has been not so consistent. It’s been very vague. And a lot of the times, ‘we don’t know’ is what they say,” she said.

—

how dare they

possible good news for all you worried well

be aware that 3 is not 0

—

Isolation unnecessary for recovered COVID-19 patients: KCDC

By Kim Bo-gyung

Relapsed patients do not transmit the coronavirus to others, authorities conclude

People who test positive for the novel coronavirus after making a full recovery do not transmit the disease to others, health authorities said Monday, reversing earlier guidance directing for an additional two-week quarantine in such cases.

Jung Eun-kyeong, director general of the Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said health authorities arrived at this conclusion after examining 790 people who had come into contact with 285 patients who tested positive again post-recovery.

“There were three new virus cases among those who had come into contact with relapse patients. But we can’t rule out the possibility that they could have been exposed to the virus through a different route,” Jung said during a daily virus briefing.

It is difficult to conclude that the new patients contracted the virus from the relapse patients, because viruses from those patients and their contacts could not be grown in a laboratory, she added.

Some 100 relapsed patients had samples taken and the virus was isolated to be cultured, which returned negative results in every case, the KCDC revealed.

—

should like maybe it really is clean up debris then

to be confirmed

SCIENCE said:

“The medical advice that I’ve received during this period has been not so consistent. It’s been very vague. And a lot of the times, ‘we don’t know’ is what they say,” she said.

—

how dare they

Who she?

dv said:

Trump: congenital liar.

captain_spalding said:

SCIENCE said:

“The medical advice that I’ve received during this period has been not so consistent. It’s been very vague. And a lot of the times, ‘we don’t know’ is what they say,” she said.

—

how dare they

Who she?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-20/coronavirus-mirabai-covid19-three-positive-tests-fatigue/12260660

no meaning to tread on the patient, rather à general comment on expectations of healthcare workers — we’re sure they don’t always know the answers, they don’t build the human body, they don’t know everything that goes on in there

from a psychological point of view if they feel pressured by such expectations then they may well be prone to fall to conclusions too readily and misrepresent their level of confidence

there’s an even more general point about how comfortable people are with uncertainty, too

captain_spalding said:

SCIENCE said:

“The medical advice that I’ve received during this period has been not so consistent. It’s been very vague. And a lot of the times, ‘we don’t know’ is what they say,” she said.

—

how dare they

Who she?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-20/coronavirus-mirabai-covid19-three-positive-tests-fatigue/12260660

I see the results are coming in for the ‘Do Nothing’ response from Sweden.

;-(

Rule 303 said:

I see the results are coming in for the ‘Do Nothing’ response from Sweden.

;-(

Yes, and according to what I read yesterday, they say they’ve had worse ‘flu seasons for deaths. I think it was 1993 and 2000. However, the figures were confusing, because some were in simple number of deaths and some were in per 100,000 population or something. I can’t recall where I was reading, probably ABC.

Five moollion…… Five moollion…… do I hear Five moollion……

Five moollion going once……………….. Five moollion going twice……………..

In Australia the Elisa Hall institute is to begin an extensive trial of hydroxychloroquine for the prevention of CV 19.
This will run along side Donald J Trump’s trial of the drug that has so far proved very successful.
It’s day 15 for him and so far no sign of CV19 whatsoever.

Peak Warming Man said:

In Australia the Elisa Hall institute is to begin an extensive trial of hydroxychloroquine for the prevention of CV 19.
This will run along side Donald J Trump’s trial of the drug that has so far proved very successful.
It’s day 15 for him and so far no sign of CV19 whatsoever.

I presume they will be trialing it on Malaria patients who might also have been exposed to Covid-19?

Because, you know, that would make sense.

SCIENCE said:

captain_spalding said:

SCIENCE said:

“The medical advice that I’ve received during this period has been not so consistent. It’s been very vague. And a lot of the times, ‘we don’t know’ is what they say,” she said.

—

how dare they

Who she?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-20/coronavirus-mirabai-covid19-three-positive-tests-fatigue/12260660

no meaning to tread on the patient, rather à general comment on expectations of healthcare workers — we’re sure they don’t always know the answers, they don’t build the human body, they don’t know everything that goes on in there

from a psychological point of view if they feel pressured by such expectations then they may well be prone to fall to conclusions too readily and misrepresent their level of confidence

there’s an even more general point about how comfortable people are with uncertainty, too

I doubt ideological models (or notions) of ‘fitness’ necessarily lend to an understanding of the range of it, where exploring the range pollutes the idealizations, or the ideological devices employed to motivate people

people commonly take months to recover from viral infections, have relapses, feel fatigue and brain fog, just it’s buried in the idealizations, doesn’t serve ideology, and you know (at this point i’ve turned facetious) how suggestible humans are, the potential for a contagion of hypochondriacal malingerism, the dangers of an undermanaged reality for the emotional creatures, they’re as lazy as they are ill

American football player Tom Brady, who once peddled a sports drink claiming to prevent concussion, is now supporting a blend of vitamins which he claims will protect you from coronavirus.

https://m.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs/archives/2020/05/18/as-coronavirus-cases-climb-in-florida-tom-brady-is-selling-45-immunity-vitamins

Divine Angel said:

American football player Tom Brady, who once peddled a sports drink claiming to prevent concussion, is now supporting a blend of vitamins which he claims will protect you from coronavirus.

https://m.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs/archives/2020/05/18/as-coronavirus-cases-climb-in-florida-tom-brady-is-selling-45-immunity-vitamins

His president is pedaling an anti-parasitic drug.

Woodie said:

Five moollion…… Five moollion…… do I hear Five moollion……

Five moollion going once……………….. Five moollion going twice……………..

And none are in North Korea!

It was interesting to note that with some restrictions lifted from Monday that the local train station toilet went back to being in its usual grotty state caused by local residents, alcohol bottles, fit packs, stolen items labels on the floor, etc, good one

Cymek said:

It was interesting to note that with some restrictions lifted from Monday that the local train station toilet went back to being in its usual grotty state caused by local residents, alcohol bottles, fit packs, stolen items labels on the floor, etc, good one

Yay

Cymek said:

It was interesting to note that with some restrictions lifted from Monday that the local train station toilet went back to being in its usual grotty state caused by local residents, alcohol bottles, fit packs, stolen items labels on the floor, etc, good one. The planet is healing.

I had the test done at the local hospital last week
I walked up to testing area and was approached by a man saying “Sir we have to do a cavity search first before you are allowed in”
Needless to say it wasn’t pleasant, he had large hands with long nails, I also found out he was an escape mental patient and not an official person at all

Cymek said:

I had the test done at the local hospital last week
I walked up to testing area and was approached by a man saying “Sir we have to do a cavity search first before you are allowed in”
Needless to say it wasn’t pleasant, he had large hands with long nails, I also found out he was an escape mental patient and not an official person at all

Sometimes there’s not a lot of difference.

More than 42,000 people have died from coronavirus in the United Kingdom, according to data released by England’s office of national statistics and numbers published by NHS England.

According to the provisional data, at least 42,402 people have died from the disease since the outbreak started in the United Kingdom.

The latest numbers from England’s Office of National Statistics, comprising data collected by institutions across the four UK nations, indicate that there were 41,020 deaths where Covid-19 was mentioned in the death certificate up until May 8.

In addition to these deaths, between May 8 and May 18 inclusive, 1,382 people died after testing positive for Covid-19 in hospitals in England.

The number is considerably higher than that reported by the UK Government’s Department of Health and Social Care of 34,796.

More about these figures: The total people figure number does not include deaths from the novel coronavirus in hospitals in Northern Ireland, Scotland or Wales between May 2 and May 11, nor does it include people who may have died from COVID-19 in care homes during that same period, in any of the four UK nations.

When added to deaths in hospitals in England between May 8 and May 18 inclusive, which currently stand at 1,382, the total stands at 42,402 deaths. The number of Covid-19 deaths in hospitals in England between May 14 and May 18 is still provisional.

Data from the ONS includes all deaths where Covid-19 is mentioned in the death certificate and differs from the numbers published by the Department of Health and Social Care, which include only deaths occurring among those who have tested positive for Covid-19.

https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-05-19-20-intl/index.html

These are official figures from the ONS, As indicated by the bold text, the actual current total is somewhat higher still.

I wonder why worldometer and JHU continue to publish the lower number of 35,341.

Not satire

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52733220
Trump says US topping world virus cases is ‘badge of honour’
On Monday, Mr Trump was hosting his first cabinet meeting since the US outbreak began.

“By the way,” he told reporters, “you know when you say that we lead in cases, that’s because we have more testing than anybody else.”

“So when we have a lot of cases,” he continued, “I don’t look at that as a bad thing, I look at that as, in a certain respect, as being a good thing because it means our testing is much better.”

He added: “So I view it as a badge of honour. Really, it’s a badge of honour.”

dv said:

 Not satire

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52733220
Trump says US topping world virus cases is ‘badge of honour’
On Monday, Mr Trump was hosting his first cabinet meeting since the US outbreak began.

“By the way,” he told reporters, “you know when you say that we lead in cases, that’s because we have more testing than anybody else.”

“So when we have a lot of cases,” he continued, “I don’t look at that as a bad thing, I look at that as, in a certain respect, as being a good thing because it means our testing is much better.”

He added: “So I view it as a badge of honour. Really, it’s a badge of honour.”

Yeah that death rate is top notch. Good work, here’s your sticker🖕

dv said:

 Not satire

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52733220
Trump says US topping world virus cases is ‘badge of honour’
On Monday, Mr Trump was hosting his first cabinet meeting since the US outbreak began.

“By the way,” he told reporters, “you know when you say that we lead in cases, that’s because we have more testing than anybody else.”

“So when we have a lot of cases,” he continued, “I don’t look at that as a bad thing, I look at that as, in a certain respect, as being a good thing because it means our testing is much better.”

He added: “So I view it as a badge of honour. Really, it’s a badge of honour.”

Gosh.

Michael V said:

dv said:

 Not satire

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52733220
Trump says US topping world virus cases is ‘badge of honour’
On Monday, Mr Trump was hosting his first cabinet meeting since the US outbreak began.

“By the way,” he told reporters, “you know when you say that we lead in cases, that’s because we have more testing than anybody else.”

“So when we have a lot of cases,” he continued, “I don’t look at that as a bad thing, I look at that as, in a certain respect, as being a good thing because it means our testing is much better.”

He added: “So I view it as a badge of honour. Really, it’s a badge of honour.”

Gosh.

No wonder he wants to end the shut downs. More honour.

dv said:

Michael V said:

dv said:

 Not satire

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52733220
Trump says US topping world virus cases is ‘badge of honour’
On Monday, Mr Trump was hosting his first cabinet meeting since the US outbreak began.

“By the way,” he told reporters, “you know when you say that we lead in cases, that’s because we have more testing than anybody else.”

“So when we have a lot of cases,” he continued, “I don’t look at that as a bad thing, I look at that as, in a certain respect, as being a good thing because it means our testing is much better.”

He added: “So I view it as a badge of honour. Really, it’s a badge of honour.”

Gosh.

No wonder he wants to end the shut downs. More honour.

Meanwhile, 43% of Americans:

dv said:

Michael V said:

dv said:

 Not satire

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52733220
Trump says US topping world virus cases is ‘badge of honour’
On Monday, Mr Trump was hosting his first cabinet meeting since the US outbreak began.

“By the way,” he told reporters, “you know when you say that we lead in cases, that’s because we have more testing than anybody else.”

“So when we have a lot of cases,” he continued, “I don’t look at that as a bad thing, I look at that as, in a certain respect, as being a good thing because it means our testing is much better.”

He added: “So I view it as a badge of honour. Really, it’s a badge of honour.”

Gosh.

No wonder he wants to end the shut downs. More honour.

JFTR, USA is currently No. 38 in the Tests/million column.

buffy said:

Given we are still in partial lockdown here, it might be interesting to see if the person was actually with anyone other than their own family (who the contact tracers would automatically look at) for more than 15 minutes.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-20/covidsafe-app-victoria-health-authorities-first-use-coronavirus/12265286

doesn’t matter, technology will solve all problems

SCIENCE said:

buffy said:

Given we are still in partial lockdown here, it might be interesting to see if the person was actually with anyone other than their own family (who the contact tracers would automatically look at) for more than 15 minutes.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-20/covidsafe-app-victoria-health-authorities-first-use-coronavirus/12265286

doesn’t matter, technology will solve all problems

And if that doesn’t do it, baryonic matter will have decayed by 10^100 years.

dv said:

SCIENCE said:

buffy said:

Given we are still in partial lockdown here, it might be interesting to see if the person was actually with anyone other than their own family (who the contact tracers would automatically look at) for more than 15 minutes.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-20/covidsafe-app-victoria-health-authorities-first-use-coronavirus/12265286

doesn’t matter, technology will solve all problems

And if that doesn’t do it, baryonic matter will have decayed by 10^100 years.

all possible macrostates in 10^10^10^100 or something like that

Premier Gladys Berejiklian has encouraged people interstate to book a holiday in NSW, after announcing coronavirus travel restrictions would be scrapped from June 1.

Two days ago the Premier said it was too risky to give tourism the green light but that she now felt more “comfortable” as the number of new cases remained low.

“If you take away the overseas cases and direct contact cases, community transmission is less than what we anticipated,” she said.

Heath authorities in NSW confirmed four new coronavirus cases in the 24 hours to 8.00pm yesterday.

All of them had recently returned from overseas, and are staying in quarantine hotels.

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there we go the thing Rule 303 was talking about, NSW cleaning up, time to party

A Maryland bar unveiled an innovative solution to help patrons remain socially distant when it fully reopens — inner tubes on wheels.

Fish Tales in Ocean City rolled out new “social distancing tables” on Saturday, recording their maiden voyages on Facebook Live.

“Only at Fish Tales can you find these special tables for social distancing,” a woman recording the video said.
Enlarge Image
Fish Tales bar in Ocean City, MarylandFacebook

“They are six feet apart. You can drink safely,” she said as a number of employees tested out the contraptions, wheeling them from the back of a truck onto the bar’s property.

The tables will be available to customers “whenever we are allowed to serve,” the woman recording the video said.

Fish Tales, like many bars in the state, is open for takeout service. On-site services at restaurants and bars in Maryland remain prohibited.

https://nypost.com/2020/05/17/maryland-bar-unveils-social-distancing-tubes-for-drinkers/

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they are on wheels. I could imagine a drunk or three taking them for a ride.

Goodness, I had to go back a long way in View by Time to find this thread.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-20/donald-trump-backs-drug-use-against-coronavirus/12267834

buffy said:

Goodness, I had to go back a long way in View by Time to find this thread.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-20/donald-trump-backs-drug-use-against-coronavirus/12267834

I’m sure a lot of people have turned to drug use to deal with him

Today’s top 20 – From Google Stats.

By Cases:

By Deaths:

By Cases/100k:

By Deaths/100k:

The bottom line, says Dr Gidwani, is what we have been calling a single disease — COVID-19 — is really looking more like three separate diseases.

He and others draw this conclusion based on how the virus affects the immune system.

“The key disaster is the extent and severity of the immune response,” he says.

It is now clear the symptoms experienced by people with severe COVID-19 are largely caused by the body’s disordered immune response to the virus rather than the virus itself, Dr Gidwani says.

In fact, the disordered immune response in severe COVID-19 is the disease; they are one and the same thing.

In contrast, with mild to moderate COVID, the immune response is more measured, with symptoms largely confined to the upper respiratory tract.

But with severe COVID-19, the body’s response to the infection goes into overdrive. In particular, substances called cytokines, which tell other parts of the immune system there is a problem that needs fixing in the body, and which coordinate the immune response, are released in excessive amounts.

This creates what’s known as a “cytokine storm”, which ends up causing damage to healthy tissue.

Doctors have seen similar cytokine storms in people with different kinds of infections or with certain cancers. But the cytokine storm with COVID-19 is wildly different.

As a result, therapies that work for the other cytokine storms don’t control the problem, Dr Gidwani says.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2020-05-19/coronavirus-doctor-ny-says-covid-like-multiple-diseases/12242026

PermeateFree said:

The bottom line, says Dr Gidwani, is what we have been calling a single disease — COVID-19 — is really looking more like three separate diseases.

He and others draw this conclusion based on how the virus affects the immune system.

“The key disaster is the extent and severity of the immune response,” he says.

It is now clear the symptoms experienced by people with severe COVID-19 are largely caused by the body’s disordered immune response to the virus rather than the virus itself, Dr Gidwani says.

In fact, the disordered immune response in severe COVID-19 is the disease; they are one and the same thing.

In contrast, with mild to moderate COVID, the immune response is more measured, with symptoms largely confined to the upper respiratory tract.

But with severe COVID-19, the body’s response to the infection goes into overdrive. In particular, substances called cytokines, which tell other parts of the immune system there is a problem that needs fixing in the body, and which coordinate the immune response, are released in excessive amounts.

This creates what’s known as a “cytokine storm”, which ends up causing damage to healthy tissue.

Doctors have seen similar cytokine storms in people with different kinds of infections or with certain cancers. But the cytokine storm with COVID-19 is wildly different.

As a result, therapies that work for the other cytokine storms don’t control the problem, Dr Gidwani says.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2020-05-19/coronavirus-doctor-ny-says-covid-like-multiple-diseases/12242026

They are learning more and more about the Chinese Flu every day.

Peak Warming Man said:

PermeateFree said:

The bottom line, says Dr Gidwani, is what we have been calling a single disease — COVID-19 — is really looking more like three separate diseases.

He and others draw this conclusion based on how the virus affects the immune system.

“The key disaster is the extent and severity of the immune response,” he says.

It is now clear the symptoms experienced by people with severe COVID-19 are largely caused by the body’s disordered immune response to the virus rather than the virus itself, Dr Gidwani says.

In fact, the disordered immune response in severe COVID-19 is the disease; they are one and the same thing.

In contrast, with mild to moderate COVID, the immune response is more measured, with symptoms largely confined to the upper respiratory tract.

But with severe COVID-19, the body’s response to the infection goes into overdrive. In particular, substances called cytokines, which tell other parts of the immune system there is a problem that needs fixing in the body, and which coordinate the immune response, are released in excessive amounts.

This creates what’s known as a “cytokine storm”, which ends up causing damage to healthy tissue.

Doctors have seen similar cytokine storms in people with different kinds of infections or with certain cancers. But the cytokine storm with COVID-19 is wildly different.

As a result, therapies that work for the other cytokine storms don’t control the problem, Dr Gidwani says.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2020-05-19/coronavirus-doctor-ny-says-covid-like-multiple-diseases/12242026

They are learning more and more about the Chinese Flu every day.

WuFlu.

Rachel Maddow laments the national embarrassment of Donald Trump railing against the W.H.O. in which he incorrectly cited the Lancet and had to be set straight with a public scolding. Aired on 5/19/2020.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4_PXWznb2Q

“we are beyond shame.”

Possibly Boris has shared this already but…

12% of Australians think “The 5G wireless network is being used to spread the Covid-19 virus”

13% think “The Covid-19 virus is not dangerous and is being used to force people to get vaccines”

13% think “Bill Gates played a role in the creation and spread of Covid-19”

https://essentialvision.com.au/category/essentialreport?fbclid=IwAR3n1tbQ-ZKoAyiuopdCQb_RCYCF1YwwwVUoOemR3_GrZdIUf9Gqrpo2RA0

dv said:

Possibly Boris has shared this already but…

12% of Australians think “The 5G wireless network is being used to spread the Covid-19 virus”

13% think “The Covid-19 virus is not dangerous and is being used to force people to get vaccines”

13% think “Bill Gates played a role in the creation and spread of Covid-19”

https://essentialvision.com.au/category/essentialreport?fbclid=IwAR3n1tbQ-ZKoAyiuopdCQb_RCYCF1YwwwVUoOemR3_GrZdIUf9Gqrpo2RA0

fuck. I suppose it is the same people…
Did they just poll Nimbin?

sarahs mum said:

dv said:

Possibly Boris has shared this already but…

12% of Australians think “The 5G wireless network is being used to spread the Covid-19 virus”

13% think “The Covid-19 virus is not dangerous and is being used to force people to get vaccines”

13% think “Bill Gates played a role in the creation and spread of Covid-19”

https://essentialvision.com.au/category/essentialreport?fbclid=IwAR3n1tbQ-ZKoAyiuopdCQb_RCYCF1YwwwVUoOemR3_GrZdIUf9Gqrpo2RA0

fuck. I suppose it is the same people…
Did they just poll Nimbin?

Just about anywhere in the Mullin’ Hippy Valley would give the same results.

sarahs mum said:

dv said:

Possibly Boris has shared this already but…

12% of Australians think “The 5G wireless network is being used to spread the Covid-19 virus”

13% think “The Covid-19 virus is not dangerous and is being used to force people to get vaccines”

13% think “Bill Gates played a role in the creation and spread of Covid-19”

https://essentialvision.com.au/category/essentialreport?fbclid=IwAR3n1tbQ-ZKoAyiuopdCQb_RCYCF1YwwwVUoOemR3_GrZdIUf9Gqrpo2RA0

fuck. I suppose it is the same people…
Did they just poll Nimbin?

Nimbin’s poll results would be crazier than that.

Speedy said:

sarahs mum said:

dv said:

Possibly Boris has shared this already but…

12% of Australians think “The 5G wireless network is being used to spread the Covid-19 virus”

13% think “The Covid-19 virus is not dangerous and is being used to force people to get vaccines”

13% think “Bill Gates played a role in the creation and spread of Covid-19”

https://essentialvision.com.au/category/essentialreport?fbclid=IwAR3n1tbQ-ZKoAyiuopdCQb_RCYCF1YwwwVUoOemR3_GrZdIUf9Gqrpo2RA0

fuck. I suppose it is the same people…
Did they just poll Nimbin?

Nimbin’s poll results would be crazier than that.

It’s actually less than you would expect if you were to draw a line at 85 IQ points.

Essential polling are quite a respected outfit. It was only a survey of 1000, there are significant uncertainties, but the fact that these percentages are even above 1% is troubling and surprising. I really would have assumed that in Australia this kind of craziness was right on the fringe.

Dying h we re

They delete them as I findthm.

similarly, all these Russians probably just haven’t died yet

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-21/russia-death-toll-count/12269440

lockdowns potentially bringing forward economic dip before recovery = protests and media frenzy calling for reopening

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-20/wha-passes-coronavirus-investigation-australia-what-cost/12265896

accusations and USA-licking push for investigation of West Taiwan possibly contributing to tradeconflict = media pât on the back and self-congratulatory patriotism

Help me

The Latest US Coronavirus Death Predictions Are Even Worse Than Expected Before

Coronavirus-related deaths among Americans are projected to surpass 113,000 by mid-June, a modeling average released Tuesday showed, underlining the US status as the nation worst affected by the pandemic.

Bring out your dead….

Speedy said:

sarahs mum said:

dv said:

Possibly Boris has shared this already but…

12% of Australians think “The 5G wireless network is being used to spread the Covid-19 virus”

13% think “The Covid-19 virus is not dangerous and is being used to force people to get vaccines”

13% think “Bill Gates played a role in the creation and spread of Covid-19”

https://essentialvision.com.au/category/essentialreport?fbclid=IwAR3n1tbQ-ZKoAyiuopdCQb_RCYCF1YwwwVUoOemR3_GrZdIUf9Gqrpo2RA0

fuck. I suppose it is the same people…
Did they just poll Nimbin?

Nimbin’s poll results would be crazier than that.

or it could be one in ten people tend to give dumb answers to dumb questions

transition said:

Speedy said:

sarahs mum said:

fuck. I suppose it is the same people…
Did they just poll Nimbin?

Nimbin’s poll results would be crazier than that.

or it could be one in ten people tend to give dumb answers to dumb questions

Obviously you didn’t watch Julia Zamiro and Dr Karl on her show.
Dr Karl said it came down to the fact that they get their knowledge and thus beliefs from a utube video they saw.

It is usually the same gene pool, yeah.

roughbarked said:

transition said:

Speedy said:

Nimbin’s poll results would be crazier than that.

or it could be one in ten people tend to give dumb answers to dumb questions

Obviously you didn’t watch Julia Zamiro and Dr Karl on her show.
Dr Karl said it came down to the fact that they get their knowledge and thus beliefs from a utube video they saw.

It is usually the same gene pool, yeah.

only say very end of it, last couple minutes, just woke I reckon

still, you have to wonder where a question originates, what sort of question exists to get some of those beliefs, beliefs that are worse than no idea at all

transition said:

roughbarked said:

transition said:

or it could be one in ten people tend to give dumb answers to dumb questions

Obviously you didn’t watch Julia Zamiro and Dr Karl on her show.
Dr Karl said it came down to the fact that they get their knowledge and thus beliefs from a utube video they saw.

It is usually the same gene pool, yeah.

only say saw very end of it, last couple minutes, just woke I reckon

still, you have to wonder where a question originates, what sort of question exists to get some of those beliefs, beliefs that are worse than no idea at all

saw

transition said:

roughbarked said:

transition said:

or it could be one in ten people tend to give dumb answers to dumb questions

Obviously you didn’t watch Julia Zamiro and Dr Karl on her show.
Dr Karl said it came down to the fact that they get their knowledge and thus beliefs from a utube video they saw.

It is usually the same gene pool, yeah.

only say very end of it, last couple minutes, just woke I reckon

still, you have to wonder where a question originates, what sort of question exists to get some of those beliefs, beliefs that are worse than no idea at all

The question? Is there a God?

roughbarked said:

transition said:

Speedy said:

Nimbin’s poll results would be crazier than that.

or it could be one in ten people tend to give dumb answers to dumb questions

Obviously you didn’t watch Julia Zamiro and Dr Karl on her show.
Dr Karl said it came down to the fact that they get their knowledge and thus beliefs from a utube video they saw.

It is usually the same gene pool, yeah.

There’s also a high level of suspicion of information from commercial and government agencies, which, to be fair, is probably healthy.

roughbarked said:

transition said:

roughbarked said:

Obviously you didn’t watch Julia Zamiro and Dr Karl on her show.
Dr Karl said it came down to the fact that they get their knowledge and thus beliefs from a utube video they saw.

It is usually the same gene pool, yeah.

only say very end of it, last couple minutes, just woke I reckon

still, you have to wonder where a question originates, what sort of question exists to get some of those beliefs, beliefs that are worse than no idea at all

The question? Is there a God?

everyone is occasionally impressed by the pungency of their own farts, instead of saying that they express opinions about other things, and if it wasn’t projected with the consistency a shared alphabet provides it’d be more readily understood that opinions often really aren’t much better than farts, less honest perhaps though

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/may/20/andrew-cuomo-new-york-coronavirus-catastrophe

Andrew Cuomo is no hero. He’s to blame for New York’s coronavirus catastrophe

dv said:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/may/20/andrew-cuomo-new-york-coronavirus-catastrophe

Andrew Cuomo is no hero. He’s to blame for New York’s coronavirus catastrophe

On ABC news they show a sound bite of one of his press conferences where he exclaims “You choose the 26000 that are going to die!”. What they don’t show is the full context and it was around projections that they needed 30000 ventilators but were only getting 400. Makes me wince every time. Maths fail…

Trump threatens to withhold aid to 2 states over expanded voting by mail

President Trump on Wednesday threatened to halt federal funding to Michigan and Nevada over the distribution of absentee ballots in those states amid the ongoing coronavirus outbreak that has left more than 90,000 Americans dead.

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-threatens-michigan-nevada-absentee-ballots-election-coronavirus-145352156.html