Date: 23/05/2020 05:58:11
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1560360
Subject: ThisPersonDoesNotExist

https://www.theverge.com/tldr/2019/2/15/18226005/ai-generated-fake-people-portraits-thispersondoesnotexist-stylegan

The ability of AI to generate fake visuals is not yet mainstream knowledge, but a new website — ThisPersonDoesNotExist.com — offers a quick and persuasive education.

The site is the creation of Philip Wang, a software engineer at Uber, and uses research released last year by chip designer Nvidia to create an endless stream of fake portraits. The algorithm behind it is trained on a huge dataset of real images, then uses a type of neural network known as a generative adversarial network (or GAN) to fabricate new examples.

https://www.lyrn.ai/2018/12/26/a-style-based-generator-architecture-for-generative-adversarial-networks/

The underlying AI framework powering the site was originally invented by a researcher named Ian Goodfellow. Nvidia’s take on the algorithm, named StyleGAN, was made open source recently and has proven to be incredibly flexible. Although this version of the model is trained to generate human faces, it can, in theory, mimic any source. Researchers are already experimenting with other targets. including anime characters, fonts, and graffiti.

https://youtu.be/kSLJriaOumA

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Date: 23/05/2020 06:25:16
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1560362
Subject: re: ThisPersonDoesNotExist

mollwollfumble said:



Normal people usually wear a set of two matching earrings.

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Date: 23/05/2020 07:21:26
From: roughbarked
ID: 1560365
Subject: re: ThisPersonDoesNotExist

Divine Angel said:


mollwollfumble said:


Normal people usually wear a set of two matching earrings.

Bugger. That means I’m not normal.

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Date: 23/05/2020 07:47:20
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1560375
Subject: re: ThisPersonDoesNotExist

roughbarked said:


Divine Angel said:

mollwollfumble said:


Normal people usually wear a set of two matching earrings.

Bugger. That means I’m not normal.

That’s hardly news to us.

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Date: 23/05/2020 07:49:05
From: roughbarked
ID: 1560376
Subject: re: ThisPersonDoesNotExist

captain_spalding said:


roughbarked said:

Divine Angel said:

Normal people usually wear a set of two matching earrings.

Bugger. That means I’m not normal.

That’s hardly news to us.

:) So glad you noticed.

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Date: 23/05/2020 11:01:48
From: Rule 303
ID: 1560432
Subject: re: ThisPersonDoesNotExist

I bet people who look exactly like those portraits do actually exist.

Spanner thrown….

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Date: 23/05/2020 12:46:55
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1560487
Subject: re: ThisPersonDoesNotExist

It’s just photos made from bits and pieces of other photos, nothing revolutionary.

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Date: 23/05/2020 12:50:49
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1560490
Subject: re: ThisPersonDoesNotExist

Bubblecar said:


It’s just photos made from bits and pieces of other photos, nothing revolutionary.

Like visual art though, it’s all just bits and pieces of pigment that get used in other arrangements of pigment, also par for the course.

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Date: 23/05/2020 13:16:19
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1560501
Subject: re: ThisPersonDoesNotExist

Divine Angel said:


mollwollfumble said:


Normal people usually wear a set of two matching earrings.

Oh cripes. I should have seen that.Thanks.

SCIENCE said:


Bubblecar said:

It’s just photos made from bits and pieces of other photos, nothing revolutionary.

Like visual art though, it’s all just bits and pieces of pigment that get used in other arrangements of pigment, also par for the course.

Perhaps so. But I know that I couldn’t program it. I’d get stuck with, say, the edge between hair and forehead appearing as a ghost in the combined completed image.

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Date: 23/05/2020 13:47:12
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1560514
Subject: re: ThisPersonDoesNotExist

SCIENCE said:


Bubblecar said:

It’s just photos made from bits and pieces of other photos, nothing revolutionary.

Like visual art though, it’s all just bits and pieces of pigment that get used in other arrangements of pigment, also par for the course.

The difference though is that in art something original and different is valued, whereas in these images the aim is to produce something that cannot be distinguished from an image of a real person.

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Date: 23/05/2020 13:47:53
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1560515
Subject: re: ThisPersonDoesNotExist

Bubblecar said:


It’s just photos made from bits and pieces of other photos, nothing revolutionary.

That’s what I thought.

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Date: 23/05/2020 13:58:32
From: transition
ID: 1560521
Subject: re: ThisPersonDoesNotExist

fairly much every face a person holds in memory, or might generate in imagination, is made up

doubtful there’s any reason the think faces are as they appear, outside that above, they’re probably no more an impression than the sensation of the color red

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Date: 23/05/2020 14:01:34
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1560523
Subject: re: ThisPersonDoesNotExist

Donald Rump does not exist.

He’s just CGI.

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Date: 23/05/2020 14:01:39
From: transition
ID: 1560524
Subject: re: ThisPersonDoesNotExist

transition said:


fairly much every face a person holds in memory, or might generate in imagination, is made up

doubtful there’s any reason the think faces are as they appear, outside that above, they’re probably no more an impression than the sensation of the color red

or maybe that should be writ no less an impression, whatever, make it up

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Date: 23/05/2020 14:02:10
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1560525
Subject: re: ThisPersonDoesNotExist

Every face in the world is already a composite of other faces, so it’s not surprising that it’s a reliable technique.

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Date: 23/05/2020 14:05:52
From: transition
ID: 1560528
Subject: re: ThisPersonDoesNotExist

Bubblecar said:


Every face in the world is already a composite of other faces, so it’s not surprising that it’s a reliable technique.

humans are very receptive to faces (as other species are, i’m sure), clearly there’s a bunch of active wetware working on it all the time, looking for it, looking for faces, you can be laying in bed and see faces in all sorts, in the curtains, wherever, look up at the clouds and find them

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Date: 23/05/2020 14:08:44
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1560531
Subject: re: ThisPersonDoesNotExist

transition said:


Bubblecar said:

Every face in the world is already a composite of other faces, so it’s not surprising that it’s a reliable technique.

humans are very receptive to faces (as other species are, i’m sure), clearly there’s a bunch of active wetware working on it all the time, looking for it, looking for faces, you can be laying in bed and see faces in all sorts, in the curtains, wherever, look up at the clouds and find them

I see faces in fingernails, which is odd because they don’t look anything like faces.

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Date: 23/05/2020 14:11:03
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1560532
Subject: re: ThisPersonDoesNotExist

Bubblecar said:


transition said:

Bubblecar said:

Every face in the world is already a composite of other faces, so it’s not surprising that it’s a reliable technique.

humans are very receptive to faces (as other species are, i’m sure), clearly there’s a bunch of active wetware working on it all the time, looking for it, looking for faces, you can be laying in bed and see faces in all sorts, in the curtains, wherever, look up at the clouds and find them

I see faces in fingernails, which is odd because they don’t look anything like faces.

Pencils too, sometimes. I’ll hold up the end of a pencil and think “That’s a dead ringer for wotsisname”.

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Date: 23/05/2020 16:22:03
From: KJW
ID: 1560566
Subject: re: ThisPersonDoesNotExist

mollwollfumble said:

I’m impressed. It looks to me like they’ve overcome the uncanny valley.

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Date: 23/05/2020 16:25:19
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1560567
Subject: re: ThisPersonDoesNotExist

KJW said:


mollwollfumble said:

I’m impressed. It looks to me like they’ve overcome the uncanny valley.

And made a hengy man?

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Date: 23/05/2020 16:35:00
From: Michael V
ID: 1560568
Subject: re: ThisPersonDoesNotExist

Peak Warming Man said:


KJW said:

mollwollfumble said:

I’m impressed. It looks to me like they’ve overcome the uncanny valley.

And made a hengy man?

idgi

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Date: 23/05/2020 16:37:40
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1560571
Subject: re: ThisPersonDoesNotExist

Michael V said:


Peak Warming Man said:

KJW said:

I’m impressed. It looks to me like they’ve overcome the uncanny valley.

And made a hengy man?

idgi

Yeah a bit obscure.
There used to be a poster on the old SSSF called The Uncanny Hengy Man or something like that.

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Date: 23/05/2020 16:40:19
From: Michael V
ID: 1560574
Subject: re: ThisPersonDoesNotExist

Peak Warming Man said:


Michael V said:

Peak Warming Man said:

And made a hengy man?

idgi

Yeah a bit obscure.
There used to be a poster on the old SSSF called The Uncanny Hengy Man or something like that.

Ta.

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Date: 23/05/2020 21:33:04
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1560728
Subject: re: ThisPersonDoesNotExist

KJW said:


mollwollfumble said:

I’m impressed. It looks to me like they’ve overcome the uncanny valley.

Almost.

The ones I’ve posted here have overcome the uncanny valley, but some of the faces generated this way, perhaps as many as 50% on https://www.thispersondoesnotexist.com/ (a new face on each refresh) still give me the creeps.

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Date: 23/05/2020 21:56:43
From: KJW
ID: 1560733
Subject: re: ThisPersonDoesNotExist

mollwollfumble said:

https://www.thispersondoesnotexist.com/ (a new face on each refresh)

It’s quite a diverse group of people, including racially diverse. The people aren’t necessarily very attractive, but neither are real people.

mollwollfumble said:

perhaps as many as 50% still give me the creeps.

It seems to me that for many of the images, the eyes don’t quite fit the face.

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Date: 23/05/2020 21:58:12
From: sibeen
ID: 1560734
Subject: re: ThisPersonDoesNotExist

KJW said:


mollwollfumble said:
https://www.thispersondoesnotexist.com/ (a new face on each refresh)

It’s quite a diverse group of people, including racially diverse. The people aren’t necessarily very attractive, but neither are real people.

mollwollfumble said:

perhaps as many as 50% still give me the creeps.

It seems to me that for many of the images, the eyes don’t quite fit the face.

For direct front on shots the ears are all wrong.

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Date: 23/05/2020 22:02:24
From: KJW
ID: 1560737
Subject: re: ThisPersonDoesNotExist

I have noticed that when there is a second person in the image, that person will be quite deformed.

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