buggerit, let’s go early.
buggerit, let’s go early.
Hello winter
wait is it next millennium already
https://youtu.be/w2zmBwx0P0g
Shields, the liberal, and Brooks, the conservative, seem to have swapped chairs for a bit, as Brooks thinks Biden doesn’t seem angry enough.
5m ago 15:23
In more upbeat news, the Dragon Capsule from the SpaceX mission has successfully docked at the International Space Station after a 19-hour journey from Earth.
Philadelphia’s derelict Eastern State Penitentiary.


sarahs mum said:
5m ago 15:23In more upbeat news, the Dragon Capsule from the SpaceX mission has successfully docked at the International Space Station after a 19-hour journey from Earth.
they call the airlock the wyrm hole
SCIENCE said:
sarahs mum said:5m ago 15:23In more upbeat news, the Dragon Capsule from the SpaceX mission has successfully docked at the International Space Station after a 19-hour journey from Earth.
they call the airlock the wyrm hole
noice
Ernest Thesiger is well known from classic horror films like The Old Dark House (1932).
But he was also a fine embroiderer, as this little British Pathé piece explores.
Ernest Thesiger – Expert Embroiderer (1944)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sbWO8AWp5g

if someone can bump the purdy flowers thread or whatever, I could post a few pictures
The bots are back.
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 4 degrees, gusty and rainy. Even I feel a bit chilled.
“I want to ask Speaker Pelosi and Secretary Pompeo: Should Beijing support protests in the US, like you glorified rioters in Hong Kong?” Mr Hu wrote.
From here: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-01/george-floyd-death-us-protests-global-reaction/12306012
Morning , 5 degrees in the Styx with afternoon snow forecast.
Good morning everyone.
Overcast, 17.5°C, 81% RH, and almost calm. BoM says to expect a top of 23°C and not much chance of rain.
I’ve found suitable steel and worked out a design for the bamboo splitter. Today I’ll mark out and cut the pieces. Then set up a safe welding spot and maybe start sticking them together with molten metal.
I’ve been asked to make vegetable soup with turkey-meat wontons for dinner.
Divine Angel said:
The bots are back.
Repeat the strategy. Block the server they are using?
Finally found a school jumper for Mini Me. I’ve looked everywhere for a few weeks for one; found only one in her size but she needed another. Impossible to find. I don’t know whether it’s a Coronavirus-supply issue or normal for this time of year. But anyway, I found one.
Today I am writing, and researching stock broking for my novel. Mr Mutant doesn’t understand story writing; MC is opening a trading account but has no money of her own. Mr Mutant says, “Why doesn’t she save up?” Because I can’t drag the story out for three years while she saves enough money, that’s why. *shakes head
Divine Angel said:
Finally found a school jumper for Mini Me. I’ve looked everywhere for a few weeks for one; found only one in her size but she needed another. Impossible to find. I don’t know whether it’s a Coronavirus-supply issue or normal for this time of year. But anyway, I found one.Today I am writing, and researching stock broking for my novel. Mr Mutant doesn’t understand story writing; MC is opening a trading account but has no money of her own. Mr Mutant says, “Why doesn’t she save up?” Because I can’t drag the story out for three years while she saves enough money, that’s why. *shakes head
Tamb said:
Divine Angel said:
Finally found a school jumper for Mini Me. I’ve looked everywhere for a few weeks for one; found only one in her size but she needed another. Impossible to find. I don’t know whether it’s a Coronavirus-supply issue or normal for this time of year. But anyway, I found one.Today I am writing, and researching stock broking for my novel. Mr Mutant doesn’t understand story writing; MC is opening a trading account but has no money of her own. Mr Mutant says, “Why doesn’t she save up?” Because I can’t drag the story out for three years while she saves enough money, that’s why. *shakes head
That’s a legitimate device and much better than a fortuitous Lotto win.
She’s gonna ask her sister and mother for some money, or cash out a credit card. I like the loan idea, creates conflict.
Divine Angel said:
Finally found a school jumper for Mini Me. I’ve looked everywhere for a few weeks for one; found only one in her size but she needed another. Impossible to find. I don’t know whether it’s a Coronavirus-supply issue or normal for this time of year. But anyway, I found one.Today I am writing, and researching stock broking for my novel. Mr Mutant doesn’t understand story writing; MC is opening a trading account but has no money of her own. Mr Mutant says, “Why doesn’t she save up?” Because I can’t drag the story out for three years while she saves enough money, that’s why. *shakes head
There’s a thing called short selling, where you sell shares you don’t own, then buy them back when the price has fallen. I’ve used it in the past when I’ve been a bit short of money (before the GFC, which was in part caused by short selling), but now there are requirements to have money to cover the trades. Depending on when your story is set, that might work. You could also consider options trading: that’s more complicated, but you can buy and sell the right to buy or sell a stock at a specified price (the “strike price”). The option price is usually much lower than the stock price, but changes in the underlying stock are (generally) matched in the option price (so you could, for instance, buy some options to buy 1000 Telstra shares for $3.10 that expire in August; the current TLS price is $3.24, so the price for those options would be about $1 each. If the TLS price goes up $0.10, so do the option prices, but the percentage price is 10% (options) vs 3% (shares). Your character could build her funds that way.
Divine Angel said:
Tamb said:
Divine Angel said:
Finally found a school jumper for Mini Me. I’ve looked everywhere for a few weeks for one; found only one in her size but she needed another. Impossible to find. I don’t know whether it’s a Coronavirus-supply issue or normal for this time of year. But anyway, I found one.Today I am writing, and researching stock broking for my novel. Mr Mutant doesn’t understand story writing; MC is opening a trading account but has no money of her own. Mr Mutant says, “Why doesn’t she save up?” Because I can’t drag the story out for three years while she saves enough money, that’s why. *shakes head
That’s a legitimate device and much better than a fortuitous Lotto win.She’s gonna ask her sister and mother for some money, or cash out a credit card. I like the loan idea, creates conflict.
btm said:
Divine Angel said:
Finally found a school jumper for Mini Me. I’ve looked everywhere for a few weeks for one; found only one in her size but she needed another. Impossible to find. I don’t know whether it’s a Coronavirus-supply issue or normal for this time of year. But anyway, I found one.Today I am writing, and researching stock broking for my novel. Mr Mutant doesn’t understand story writing; MC is opening a trading account but has no money of her own. Mr Mutant says, “Why doesn’t she save up?” Because I can’t drag the story out for three years while she saves enough money, that’s why. *shakes head
There’s a thing called short selling, where you sell shares you don’t own, then buy them back when the price has fallen. I’ve used it in the past when I’ve been a bit short of money (before the GFC, which was in part caused by short selling), but now there are requirements to have money to cover the trades. Depending on when your story is set, that might work. You could also consider options trading: that’s more complicated, but you can buy and sell the right to buy or sell a stock at a specified price (the “strike price”). The option price is usually much lower than the stock price, but changes in the underlying stock are (generally) matched in the option price (so you could, for instance, buy some options to buy 1000 Telstra shares for $3.10 that expire in August; the current TLS price is $3.24, so the price for those options would be about $1 each. If the TLS price goes up $0.10, so do the option prices, but the percentage price is 10% (options) vs 3% (shares). Your character could build her funds that way.
A quick trip overseas and back with an illicit concealment, providing you don’t get caught, is a known money spinner…
furious said:
btm said:
Divine Angel said:
Finally found a school jumper for Mini Me. I’ve looked everywhere for a few weeks for one; found only one in her size but she needed another. Impossible to find. I don’t know whether it’s a Coronavirus-supply issue or normal for this time of year. But anyway, I found one.Today I am writing, and researching stock broking for my novel. Mr Mutant doesn’t understand story writing; MC is opening a trading account but has no money of her own. Mr Mutant says, “Why doesn’t she save up?” Because I can’t drag the story out for three years while she saves enough money, that’s why. *shakes head
There’s a thing called short selling, where you sell shares you don’t own, then buy them back when the price has fallen. I’ve used it in the past when I’ve been a bit short of money (before the GFC, which was in part caused by short selling), but now there are requirements to have money to cover the trades. Depending on when your story is set, that might work. You could also consider options trading: that’s more complicated, but you can buy and sell the right to buy or sell a stock at a specified price (the “strike price”). The option price is usually much lower than the stock price, but changes in the underlying stock are (generally) matched in the option price (so you could, for instance, buy some options to buy 1000 Telstra shares for $3.10 that expire in August; the current TLS price is $3.24, so the price for those options would be about $1 each. If the TLS price goes up $0.10, so do the option prices, but the percentage price is 10% (options) vs 3% (shares). Your character could build her funds that way.
A quick trip overseas and back with an illicit concealment, providing you don’t get caught, is a known money spinner…
Tamb said:
furious said:
btm said:There’s a thing called short selling, where you sell shares you don’t own, then buy them back when the price has fallen. I’ve used it in the past when I’ve been a bit short of money (before the GFC, which was in part caused by short selling), but now there are requirements to have money to cover the trades. Depending on when your story is set, that might work. You could also consider options trading: that’s more complicated, but you can buy and sell the right to buy or sell a stock at a specified price (the “strike price”). The option price is usually much lower than the stock price, but changes in the underlying stock are (generally) matched in the option price (so you could, for instance, buy some options to buy 1000 Telstra shares for $3.10 that expire in August; the current TLS price is $3.24, so the price for those options would be about $1 each. If the TLS price goes up $0.10, so do the option prices, but the percentage price is 10% (options) vs 3% (shares). Your character could build her funds that way.
A quick trip overseas and back with an illicit concealment, providing you don’t get caught, is a known money spinner…
Covid-19 kind of rules that one out.
Depends when the story is set…
btm said:
Divine Angel said:
Finally found a school jumper for Mini Me. I’ve looked everywhere for a few weeks for one; found only one in her size but she needed another. Impossible to find. I don’t know whether it’s a Coronavirus-supply issue or normal for this time of year. But anyway, I found one.Today I am writing, and researching stock broking for my novel. Mr Mutant doesn’t understand story writing; MC is opening a trading account but has no money of her own. Mr Mutant says, “Why doesn’t she save up?” Because I can’t drag the story out for three years while she saves enough money, that’s why. *shakes head
There’s a thing called short selling, where you sell shares you don’t own, then buy them back when the price has fallen. I’ve used it in the past when I’ve been a bit short of money (before the GFC, which was in part caused by short selling), but now there are requirements to have money to cover the trades. Depending on when your story is set, that might work. You could also consider options trading: that’s more complicated, but you can buy and sell the right to buy or sell a stock at a specified price (the “strike price”). The option price is usually much lower than the stock price, but changes in the underlying stock are (generally) matched in the option price (so you could, for instance, buy some options to buy 1000 Telstra shares for $3.10 that expire in August; the current TLS price is $3.24, so the price for those options would be about $1 each. If the TLS price goes up $0.10, so do the option prices, but the percentage price is 10% (options) vs 3% (shares). Your character could build her funds that way.
The trouble is, she has no money. She’s been cut off from the family wealth. So she either cashes out her sister’s credit card, or she asks her and the mother for money. (Mother and father are divorced.) Story is set here-and-now.
Asking her mum for a loan is perfect for conflict, so that’s where I’m heading.
Drug mule, hey…
And by the story being set in the here-and-now, there’s no COVID running rampant. So let’s say, 2019.
Divine Angel said:
And by the story being set in the here-and-now, there’s no COVID running rampant. So let’s say, 2019.
And she’s not doing it to trade, she’s doing it to get info from the stockbroker, whom she suspects is her never-mentioned uncle with a son possibly linked to the death of her friend…
Divine Angel said:
And she’s not doing it to trade, she’s doing it to get info from the stockbroker, whom she suspects is her never-mentioned uncle with a son possibly linked to the death of her friend…
Divine Angel said:
Drug mule, hey…
You can’t prove it.
Peak Warming Man said:
Divine Angel said:
Drug mule, hey…You can’t prove it.
Christo the wrapper has died.
btm said:
Divine Angel said:
Finally found a school jumper for Mini Me. I’ve looked everywhere for a few weeks for one; found only one in her size but she needed another. Impossible to find. I don’t know whether it’s a Coronavirus-supply issue or normal for this time of year. But anyway, I found one.Today I am writing, and researching stock broking for my novel. Mr Mutant doesn’t understand story writing; MC is opening a trading account but has no money of her own. Mr Mutant says, “Why doesn’t she save up?” Because I can’t drag the story out for three years while she saves enough money, that’s why. *shakes head
There’s a thing called short selling, where you sell shares you don’t own, then buy them back when the price has fallen. I’ve used it in the past when I’ve been a bit short of money (before the GFC, which was in part caused by short selling), but now there are requirements to have money to cover the trades. Depending on when your story is set, that might work. You could also consider options trading: that’s more complicated, but you can buy and sell the right to buy or sell a stock at a specified price (the “strike price”). The option price is usually much lower than the stock price, but changes in the underlying stock are (generally) matched in the option price (so you could, for instance, buy some options to buy 1000 Telstra shares for $3.10 that expire in August; the current TLS price is $3.24, so the price for those options would be about $1 each. If the TLS price goes up $0.10, so do the option prices, but the percentage price is 10% (options) vs 3% (shares). Your character could build her funds that way.
Free money.
Went here on the weekend. First visit in more than four decades. The condition of this reserve is the worst I’ve ever seen it yet still life is trickling along awaiting the possibility that something may change and bring a revitalization.
The hut was in disuse in 1976 and it appears as if nothing has been disturbed since then. Quite surprising how well it has stood the test of time otherwise.
The reserve was initially set up as a mallee fowl refuge. Last time I saw any vestige of a mallee fowl mound was in 1976 where I photographed Mrs rb eight and a half months preggers with our first child. The mound at the time hadn’t been used for a good while.
On this visit I couldn’t even find a footprint or any scratchings. Only kangaroo footprints and echidna restaurants. Many skeletons of kangaroo and emu. The Eucalypts were not collectively healthy, the ground was littered with manna. The only bird heard was a grey fantail, whereas in 1976 I photographed variegated wrens red capped robins and even a hooded robin nesting. Not that I ever saw any but the red lored whistler is also no longer seen there. As Graeme Chapman notes. https://www.graemechapman.com.au/library/viewphotos.php?c=563
It would appear that the ooriginal reserve area dedicated to the purpose was far too small to maintain the diversity.
Yet I found greenhood rosettes among the struggling Halgania cyanea.
Mallee pine in places was still alive but mostly simply collapsed.
The main shrubs were struggling Eremophila glabra, though the Beyeria opaca seemed healthy enough. Olearia pimeleoides was present but scarce and only as small plants.
Peak Warming Man said:
Christo the wrapper has died.
Presumably buried wrapped in red plastic?
Breakfast – torn up cabbage in re-heated, left-over, very spicy, home-made Tandoori sauce. Lovely. My mouth is zinging with flavours.
:)
Dana is stranded in Australia and cant get home, apparently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xmnd3uiK_Y
roughbarked said:
Went here on the weekend. First visit in more than four decades. The condition of this reserve is the worst I’ve ever seen it yet still life is trickling along awaiting the possibility that something may change and bring a revitalization.
The hut was in disuse in 1976 and it appears as if nothing has been disturbed since then. Quite surprising how well it has stood the test of time otherwise.
The reserve was initially set up as a mallee fowl refuge. Last time I saw any vestige of a mallee fowl mound was in 1976 where I photographed Mrs rb eight and a half months preggers with our first child. The mound at the time hadn’t been used for a good while.
On this visit I couldn’t even find a footprint or any scratchings. Only kangaroo footprints and echidna restaurants. Many skeletons of kangaroo and emu. The Eucalypts were not collectively healthy, the ground was littered with manna. The only bird heard was a grey fantail, whereas in 1976 I photographed variegated wrens red capped robins and even a hooded robin nesting. Not that I ever saw any but the red lored whistler is also no longer seen there. As Graeme Chapman notes. https://www.graemechapman.com.au/library/viewphotos.php?c=563It would appear that the ooriginal reserve area dedicated to the purpose was far too small to maintain the diversity.
Yet I found greenhood rosettes among the struggling Halgania cyanea.
Mallee pine in places was still alive but mostly simply collapsed.
The main shrubs were struggling Eremophila glabra, though the Beyeria opaca seemed healthy enough. Olearia pimeleoides was present but scarce and only as small plants.
Harold Frith did his studies on Malleefowl back in the late 50’s & 60’s.
Frith’s hut was built in the early 1960’s at Pulletop Nature Reserve for his studies on Malleefowl Conservation and is still in very good condition.
Pulletop, eh. Fair way from your place. Haven’t been there since I was a kid, growing up in Wagga. Went there to collect Wolframite specimens.
Michael V said:
Pulletop, eh. Fair way from your place. Haven’t been there since I was a kid, growing up in Wagga. Went there to collect Wolframite specimens.
Pulletop is less than 50km by road from where I live.
roughbarked said:
Went here on the weekend. First visit in more than four decades. The condition of this reserve is the worst I’ve ever seen it yet still life is trickling along awaiting the possibility that something may change and bring a revitalization.
The hut was in disuse in 1976 and it appears as if nothing has been disturbed since then. Quite surprising how well it has stood the test of time otherwise.
The reserve was initially set up as a mallee fowl refuge. Last time I saw any vestige of a mallee fowl mound was in 1976 where I photographed Mrs rb eight and a half months preggers with our first child. The mound at the time hadn’t been used for a good while.
On this visit I couldn’t even find a footprint or any scratchings. Only kangaroo footprints and echidna restaurants. Many skeletons of kangaroo and emu. The Eucalypts were not collectively healthy, the ground was littered with manna. The only bird heard was a grey fantail, whereas in 1976 I photographed variegated wrens red capped robins and even a hooded robin nesting. Not that I ever saw any but the red lored whistler is also no longer seen there. As Graeme Chapman notes. https://www.graemechapman.com.au/library/viewphotos.php?c=563It would appear that the ooriginal reserve area dedicated to the purpose was far too small to maintain the diversity.
Yet I found greenhood rosettes among the struggling Halgania cyanea.
Mallee pine in places was still alive but mostly simply collapsed.
The main shrubs were struggling Eremophila glabra, though the Beyeria opaca seemed healthy enough. Olearia pimeleoides was present but scarce and only as small plants.
Thanks for sharing. I haven’t been there but have been to the nearby Cocoparra NP. These small reserves are very important to maintain, as they provide stepping-stone habitat for many species, allowing them to move within the wider area.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
Went here on the weekend. First visit in more than four decades. The condition of this reserve is the worst I’ve ever seen it yet still life is trickling along awaiting the possibility that something may change and bring a revitalization.
The hut was in disuse in 1976 and it appears as if nothing has been disturbed since then. Quite surprising how well it has stood the test of time otherwise.
The reserve was initially set up as a mallee fowl refuge. Last time I saw any vestige of a mallee fowl mound was in 1976 where I photographed Mrs rb eight and a half months preggers with our first child. The mound at the time hadn’t been used for a good while.
On this visit I couldn’t even find a footprint or any scratchings. Only kangaroo footprints and echidna restaurants. Many skeletons of kangaroo and emu. The Eucalypts were not collectively healthy, the ground was littered with manna. The only bird heard was a grey fantail, whereas in 1976 I photographed variegated wrens red capped robins and even a hooded robin nesting. Not that I ever saw any but the red lored whistler is also no longer seen there. As Graeme Chapman notes. https://www.graemechapman.com.au/library/viewphotos.php?c=563It would appear that the ooriginal reserve area dedicated to the purpose was far too small to maintain the diversity.
Yet I found greenhood rosettes among the struggling Halgania cyanea.
Mallee pine in places was still alive but mostly simply collapsed.
The main shrubs were struggling Eremophila glabra, though the Beyeria opaca seemed healthy enough. Olearia pimeleoides was present but scarce and only as small plants.
Harold Frith did his studies on Malleefowl back in the late 50’s & 60’s.
Frith’s hut was built in the early 1960’s at Pulletop Nature Reserve for his studies on Malleefowl Conservation and is still in very good condition.
They look decidedly edible.
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:
Went here on the weekend. First visit in more than four decades. The condition of this reserve is the worst I’ve ever seen it yet still life is trickling along awaiting the possibility that something may change and bring a revitalization.
The hut was in disuse in 1976 and it appears as if nothing has been disturbed since then. Quite surprising how well it has stood the test of time otherwise.
The reserve was initially set up as a mallee fowl refuge. Last time I saw any vestige of a mallee fowl mound was in 1976 where I photographed Mrs rb eight and a half months preggers with our first child. The mound at the time hadn’t been used for a good while.
On this visit I couldn’t even find a footprint or any scratchings. Only kangaroo footprints and echidna restaurants. Many skeletons of kangaroo and emu. The Eucalypts were not collectively healthy, the ground was littered with manna. The only bird heard was a grey fantail, whereas in 1976 I photographed variegated wrens red capped robins and even a hooded robin nesting. Not that I ever saw any but the red lored whistler is also no longer seen there. As Graeme Chapman notes. https://www.graemechapman.com.au/library/viewphotos.php?c=563It would appear that the ooriginal reserve area dedicated to the purpose was far too small to maintain the diversity.
Yet I found greenhood rosettes among the struggling Halgania cyanea.
Mallee pine in places was still alive but mostly simply collapsed.
The main shrubs were struggling Eremophila glabra, though the Beyeria opaca seemed healthy enough. Olearia pimeleoides was present but scarce and only as small plants.
Thanks for sharing. I haven’t been there but have been to the nearby Cocoparra NP. These small reserves are very important to maintain, as they provide stepping-stone habitat for many species, allowing them to move within the wider area.
Cocoparra is also only 40 odd km from home. I spend a lot of time there. https://www.flickr.com/photos/roughbarked/albums/72157624473918086
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
Pulletop, eh. Fair way from your place. Haven’t been there since I was a kid, growing up in Wagga. Went there to collect Wolframite specimens.
Pulletop is less than 50km by road from where I live.
Huh! There you go. I’d thought it was much further than that.
Peak Warming Man said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
Went here on the weekend. First visit in more than four decades. The condition of this reserve is the worst I’ve ever seen it yet still life is trickling along awaiting the possibility that something may change and bring a revitalization.
The hut was in disuse in 1976 and it appears as if nothing has been disturbed since then. Quite surprising how well it has stood the test of time otherwise.
The reserve was initially set up as a mallee fowl refuge. Last time I saw any vestige of a mallee fowl mound was in 1976 where I photographed Mrs rb eight and a half months preggers with our first child. The mound at the time hadn’t been used for a good while.
On this visit I couldn’t even find a footprint or any scratchings. Only kangaroo footprints and echidna restaurants. Many skeletons of kangaroo and emu. The Eucalypts were not collectively healthy, the ground was littered with manna. The only bird heard was a grey fantail, whereas in 1976 I photographed variegated wrens red capped robins and even a hooded robin nesting. Not that I ever saw any but the red lored whistler is also no longer seen there. As Graeme Chapman notes. https://www.graemechapman.com.au/library/viewphotos.php?c=563It would appear that the ooriginal reserve area dedicated to the purpose was far too small to maintain the diversity.
Yet I found greenhood rosettes among the struggling Halgania cyanea.
Mallee pine in places was still alive but mostly simply collapsed.
The main shrubs were struggling Eremophila glabra, though the Beyeria opaca seemed healthy enough. Olearia pimeleoides was present but scarce and only as small plants.
Harold Frith did his studies on Malleefowl back in the late 50’s & 60’s.
Frith’s hut was built in the early 1960’s at Pulletop Nature Reserve for his studies on Malleefowl Conservation and is still in very good condition.
They look decidedly edible.
Maybe why they are missing in action there.
Peak Warming Man said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
Went here on the weekend. First visit in more than four decades. The condition of this reserve is the worst I’ve ever seen it yet still life is trickling along awaiting the possibility that something may change and bring a revitalization.
The hut was in disuse in 1976 and it appears as if nothing has been disturbed since then. Quite surprising how well it has stood the test of time otherwise.
The reserve was initially set up as a mallee fowl refuge. Last time I saw any vestige of a mallee fowl mound was in 1976 where I photographed Mrs rb eight and a half months preggers with our first child. The mound at the time hadn’t been used for a good while.
On this visit I couldn’t even find a footprint or any scratchings. Only kangaroo footprints and echidna restaurants. Many skeletons of kangaroo and emu. The Eucalypts were not collectively healthy, the ground was littered with manna. The only bird heard was a grey fantail, whereas in 1976 I photographed variegated wrens red capped robins and even a hooded robin nesting. Not that I ever saw any but the red lored whistler is also no longer seen there. As Graeme Chapman notes. https://www.graemechapman.com.au/library/viewphotos.php?c=563It would appear that the ooriginal reserve area dedicated to the purpose was far too small to maintain the diversity.
Yet I found greenhood rosettes among the struggling Halgania cyanea.
Mallee pine in places was still alive but mostly simply collapsed.
The main shrubs were struggling Eremophila glabra, though the Beyeria opaca seemed healthy enough. Olearia pimeleoides was present but scarce and only as small plants.
Harold Frith did his studies on Malleefowl back in the late 50’s & 60’s.
Frith’s hut was built in the early 1960’s at Pulletop Nature Reserve for his studies on Malleefowl Conservation and is still in very good condition.
They look decidedly edible.
That was the problem. Mr Driver, who owned the station that covered the area where the City of Griffith now stands, wrote in 1895 that the locusts didn’t appear as a problem until the Mallee Fowl were eaten out.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
Pulletop, eh. Fair way from your place. Haven’t been there since I was a kid, growing up in Wagga. Went there to collect Wolframite specimens.
Pulletop is less than 50km by road from where I live.
Huh! There you go. I’d thought it was much further than that.
It is only 44km to Leeton from Griffith.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:Pulletop is less than 50km by road from where I live.
Huh! There you go. I’d thought it was much further than that.
It is only 44km to Leeton from Griffith.
Rankins Springs is 65km and Pulletop is closer to me than the Great Western Highway intersection with the Rankins Springs Road 53km from Griffith. Pulletop Road is about Halway along the 53km of Rankins Springs Road. I’m closer to Myall Park than Griffith.
roughbarked said:
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:
Went here on the weekend. First visit in more than four decades. The condition of this reserve is the worst I’ve ever seen it yet still life is trickling along awaiting the possibility that something may change and bring a revitalization.
The hut was in disuse in 1976 and it appears as if nothing has been disturbed since then. Quite surprising how well it has stood the test of time otherwise.
The reserve was initially set up as a mallee fowl refuge. Last time I saw any vestige of a mallee fowl mound was in 1976 where I photographed Mrs rb eight and a half months preggers with our first child. The mound at the time hadn’t been used for a good while.
On this visit I couldn’t even find a footprint or any scratchings. Only kangaroo footprints and echidna restaurants. Many skeletons of kangaroo and emu. The Eucalypts were not collectively healthy, the ground was littered with manna. The only bird heard was a grey fantail, whereas in 1976 I photographed variegated wrens red capped robins and even a hooded robin nesting. Not that I ever saw any but the red lored whistler is also no longer seen there. As Graeme Chapman notes. https://www.graemechapman.com.au/library/viewphotos.php?c=563It would appear that the ooriginal reserve area dedicated to the purpose was far too small to maintain the diversity.
Yet I found greenhood rosettes among the struggling Halgania cyanea.
Mallee pine in places was still alive but mostly simply collapsed.
The main shrubs were struggling Eremophila glabra, though the Beyeria opaca seemed healthy enough. Olearia pimeleoides was present but scarce and only as small plants.
Thanks for sharing. I haven’t been there but have been to the nearby Cocoparra NP. These small reserves are very important to maintain, as they provide stepping-stone habitat for many species, allowing them to move within the wider area.
Cocoparra is also only 40 odd km from home. I spend a lot of time there. https://www.flickr.com/photos/roughbarked/albums/72157624473918086
Nice! We need to get back there to do some more exploring. That blue wren you have photographed, would that species also live as far north as Gundabooka? I think I saw one there on an early morning walk, and it is on a similar line of longitude to Cocoparra.
I have noticed throughout all of my travels that there is a mind-boggling overlap of features both longitudinally and latitudinally over great distances.
The female lays a clutch of two or three to over 30 large, thin-shelled eggs, mostly about 15; usually about a week apart. Each egg weighs about 10% of the female’s body weight, and over a season, she commonly lays 250% of her own weight. Clutch size varies greatly between birds and with rainfall. Incubation time depends on temperature and can be between about 50 and almost 100 days.
Hatchlings use their strong feet to break out of the egg, then lie on their backs and scratch their way to the surface, struggling hard for 5–10 minutes to gain 3 to 15 cm (1 to 6 in) at a time, and then resting for an hour or so before starting again. Reaching the surface takes between 2 and 15 hours. Chicks pop out of the nesting material with little or no warning, with eyes and beaks tightly closed, then immediately take a deep breath and open their eyes, before freezing motionless for as long as 20 minutes.
The chick then quickly emerges from the hole and rolls or staggers to the base of the mound, disappearing into the scrub within moments. Within an hour, it will be able to run reasonably well; it can flutter for a short distance and run very fast within two hours, and despite not having yet grown tail feathers, it can fly strongly within a day.
Chicks have no contact with adults or other chicks; they tend to hatch one at a time, and birds of any age ignore one another except for mating or territorial disputes.
——————————————-
Strange bird.
roughbarked said:
Cocoparra is also only 40 odd km from home. I spend a lot of time there. https://www.flickr.com/photos/roughbarked/albums/72157624473918086
Mr Speedy’s friend grew up on the property that adjoins the NP (on approach by road) and his parents still live there. It may even be the property you have photographed with the crops.
Peak Warming Man said:
The female lays a clutch of two or three to over 30 large, thin-shelled eggs, mostly about 15; usually about a week apart. Each egg weighs about 10% of the female’s body weight, and over a season, she commonly lays 250% of her own weight. Clutch size varies greatly between birds and with rainfall. Incubation time depends on temperature and can be between about 50 and almost 100 days.
Hatchlings use their strong feet to break out of the egg, then lie on their backs and scratch their way to the surface, struggling hard for 5–10 minutes to gain 3 to 15 cm (1 to 6 in) at a time, and then resting for an hour or so before starting again. Reaching the surface takes between 2 and 15 hours. Chicks pop out of the nesting material with little or no warning, with eyes and beaks tightly closed, then immediately take a deep breath and open their eyes, before freezing motionless for as long as 20 minutes.
The chick then quickly emerges from the hole and rolls or staggers to the base of the mound, disappearing into the scrub within moments. Within an hour, it will be able to run reasonably well; it can flutter for a short distance and run very fast within two hours, and despite not having yet grown tail feathers, it can fly strongly within a day.
Chicks have no contact with adults or other chicks; they tend to hatch one at a time, and birds of any age ignore one another except for mating or territorial disputes.
——————————————-
Strange bird.
No warning at all :)
Malleefowl hatching from mound
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RocNefMhFn8
Anonymous has been busy.
The gist of this was already public knowledge though.
https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Lawsuit.pdf
Christo, Fearless Maker of Massive Public Artworks, Has Died at 84
https://www.artnews.com/art-news/news/christo-dead-wrappings-sculptures-1202689250/
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:
Speedy said:Thanks for sharing. I haven’t been there but have been to the nearby Cocoparra NP. These small reserves are very important to maintain, as they provide stepping-stone habitat for many species, allowing them to move within the wider area.
Cocoparra is also only 40 odd km from home. I spend a lot of time there. https://www.flickr.com/photos/roughbarked/albums/72157624473918086
Nice! We need to get back there to do some more exploring. That blue wren you have photographed, would that species also live as far north as Gundabooka? I think I saw one there on an early morning walk, and it is on a similar line of longitude to Cocoparra.
I have noticed throughout all of my travels that there is a mind-boggling overlap of features both longitudinally and latitudinally over great distances.
:) Not that I’ve been in Gundabooka, it will be that the habitat it is found in will be the wetter hilly parts of the local bushland. ie; though where I live has irrigated farmland, only the variegated wren is seen on the plains outside Cocoparra NP. Two distinctly different birds.
Peak Warming Man said:
The female lays a clutch of two or three to over 30 large, thin-shelled eggs, mostly about 15; usually about a week apart. Each egg weighs about 10% of the female’s body weight, and over a season, she commonly lays 250% of her own weight. Clutch size varies greatly between birds and with rainfall. Incubation time depends on temperature and can be between about 50 and almost 100 days.
Hatchlings use their strong feet to break out of the egg, then lie on their backs and scratch their way to the surface, struggling hard for 5–10 minutes to gain 3 to 15 cm (1 to 6 in) at a time, and then resting for an hour or so before starting again. Reaching the surface takes between 2 and 15 hours. Chicks pop out of the nesting material with little or no warning, with eyes and beaks tightly closed, then immediately take a deep breath and open their eyes, before freezing motionless for as long as 20 minutes.
The chick then quickly emerges from the hole and rolls or staggers to the base of the mound, disappearing into the scrub within moments. Within an hour, it will be able to run reasonably well; it can flutter for a short distance and run very fast within two hours, and despite not having yet grown tail feathers, it can fly strongly within a day.
Chicks have no contact with adults or other chicks; they tend to hatch one at a time, and birds of any age ignore one another except for mating or territorial disputes.
——————————————-
Strange bird.
A very interesting bird actually.
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:
Cocoparra is also only 40 odd km from home. I spend a lot of time there. https://www.flickr.com/photos/roughbarked/albums/72157624473918086
Mr Speedy’s friend grew up on the property that adjoins the NP (on approach by road) and his parents still live there. It may even be the property you have photographed with the crops.
The possibility exists. ;)
The monument wrapping artist Christo has died
Woohoo, have hit 50k words.
These Hainan Gibbons have recovered from near extinction to population of 30 on an island somewhere.
Males are black females are yellow.

roughbarked said:
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:
Cocoparra is also only 40 odd km from home. I spend a lot of time there. https://www.flickr.com/photos/roughbarked/albums/72157624473918086
Mr Speedy’s friend grew up on the property that adjoins the NP (on approach by road) and his parents still live there. It may even be the property you have photographed with the crops.
The possibility exists. ;)
This would be circa 1974 watching the sunrise on Mt Cayley. Probably not far from where Oxley stood to do the same.
The first Europeans to visit the Cocoparra range were John Oxley and the members of his 1817 expedition exploring the Lachlan Country. They named the range Peels Range. Oxley approached the range from the east and climbed a hill which the party named Mount Caley after the botanist George Caley. The expedition also named Mt Brogden, under which it camped. Here a member of the party planted oak, quince, peach and apricot seeds on the King’s birthday `to serve to commemorate the day and situation, should these desolate plains be ever again visited by civilised man of which, however, I think there is little probability’. Oxley turned from a south-westerly route to a nor-westerly route around the southern end of the range.
Of course I’m behind the camera.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
Speedy said:The possibility exists. ;)
This would be circa 1974 watching the sunrise on Mt Cayley. Probably not far from where Oxley stood to do the same.
The first Europeans to visit the Cocoparra range were John Oxley and the members of his 1817 expedition exploring the Lachlan Country. They named the range Peels Range. Oxley approached the range from the east and climbed a hill which the party named Mount Caley after the botanist George Caley. The expedition also named Mt Brogden, under which it camped. Here a member of the party planted oak, quince, peach and apricot seeds on the King’s birthday `to serve to commemorate the day and situation, should these desolate plains be ever again visited by civilised man of which, however, I think there is little probability’. Oxley turned from a south-westerly route to a nor-westerly route around the southern end of the range.
![]()
Of course I’m behind the camera.
Caley.. Anyway, I searched the entire area and never found any evidence of the oak, quince, peach and apricot ever having survived.
Not a really nice day but then, it is winter now.
Gusts
52km/h
Lazy wind, goes straight through rather than around.
10 degrees (out of the wind).
Peak Warming Man said:
These Hainan Gibbons have recovered from near extinction to population of 30 on an island somewhere.
Males are black females are yellow.
Similar to white cheeked gibbons, though there seems to be a slight difference in the dichromatic colouring.
White cheeked gibbons : all born golden, all turn black then females back to golden at sexual maturity.
The literature for the hainan gibbons seems to suggest that they are all born golden but then only males turn black. Interesting.
Thanks.
Arts said:
Peak Warming Man said:
These Hainan Gibbons have recovered from near extinction to population of 30 on an island somewhere.
Males are black females are yellow.
Similar to white cheeked gibbons, though there seems to be a slight difference in the dichromatic colouring.
White cheeked gibbons : all born golden, all turn black then females back to golden at sexual maturity.
The literature for the hainan gibbons seems to suggest that they are all born golden but then only males turn black. Interesting.
Thanks.
Thanks for the additiional info, Arts.
Arts said:
Peak Warming Man said:
These Hainan Gibbons have recovered from near extinction to population of 30 on an island somewhere.
Males are black females are yellow.
Similar to white cheeked gibbons, though there seems to be a slight difference in the dichromatic colouring.
White cheeked gibbons : all born golden, all turn black then females back to golden at sexual maturity.
The literature for the hainan gibbons seems to suggest that they are all born golden but then only males turn black. Interesting.
Thanks.
No strike that, looks like the female also turn black. So same same.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-01/narendra-modi-india-pm-scott-morrison-announce-virtual-summit/12306496
ScoMosas. Try saying that aloud.
(Then read the piece. Apparently it refers to samosas. But I read Scomo’s ass…might just be my mind)
Arts said:
Arts said:
Peak Warming Man said:
These Hainan Gibbons have recovered from near extinction to population of 30 on an island somewhere.
Males are black females are yellow.
Similar to white cheeked gibbons, though there seems to be a slight difference in the dichromatic colouring.
White cheeked gibbons : all born golden, all turn black then females back to golden at sexual maturity.
The literature for the hainan gibbons seems to suggest that they are all born golden but then only males turn black. Interesting.
Thanks.
No strike that, looks like the female also turn black. So same same.
OK.
Lunch: 1 x Herbert Adams chicken, leek & camembert pie.
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-01/narendra-modi-india-pm-scott-morrison-announce-virtual-summit/12306496ScoMosas. Try saying that aloud.
(Then read the piece. Apparently it refers to samosas. But I read Scomo’s ass…might just be my mind)
Lateral thinker?
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-01/narendra-modi-india-pm-scott-morrison-announce-virtual-summit/12306496ScoMosas. Try saying that aloud.
(Then read the piece. Apparently it refers to samosas. But I read Scomo’s ass…might just be my mind)
“Australia and India are in full agreement that our strong bilateral relationship is key to a more open, prosperous and inclusive Indo-Pacific.”
This sounds good, but what does it mean?
party_pants said:
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-01/narendra-modi-india-pm-scott-morrison-announce-virtual-summit/12306496ScoMosas. Try saying that aloud.
(Then read the piece. Apparently it refers to samosas. But I read Scomo’s ass…might just be my mind)
“Australia and India are in full agreement that our strong bilateral relationship is key to a more open, prosperous and inclusive Indo-Pacific.”
This sounds good, but what does it mean?
Gonna share the virus?
roughbarked said:
party_pants said:
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-01/narendra-modi-india-pm-scott-morrison-announce-virtual-summit/12306496ScoMosas. Try saying that aloud.
(Then read the piece. Apparently it refers to samosas. But I read Scomo’s ass…might just be my mind)
“Australia and India are in full agreement that our strong bilateral relationship is key to a more open, prosperous and inclusive Indo-Pacific.”
This sounds good, but what does it mean?
Gonna share the virus?
Samosas for coal deal.
party_pants said:
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-01/narendra-modi-india-pm-scott-morrison-announce-virtual-summit/12306496ScoMosas. Try saying that aloud.
(Then read the piece. Apparently it refers to samosas. But I read Scomo’s ass…might just be my mind)
“Australia and India are in full agreement that our strong bilateral relationship is key to a more open, prosperous and inclusive Indo-Pacific.”
This sounds good, but what does it mean?
More Tests.
Bubblecar said:
Lunch: 1 x Herbert Adams chicken, leek & camembert pie.
Verdict: not as nice as his beef and lamb pies.
Bubblecar said:
Lunch: 1 x Herbert Adams chicken, leek & camembert pie.
Fancy.
:)
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-01/narendra-modi-india-pm-scott-morrison-announce-virtual-summit/12306496ScoMosas. Try saying that aloud.
(Then read the piece. Apparently it refers to samosas. But I read Scomo’s ass…might just be my mind)
“Australia and India are in full agreement that our strong bilateral relationship is key to a more open, prosperous and inclusive Indo-Pacific.”
This sounds good, but what does it mean?
More Tests.
Yes, this four test malarky is an outrage.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Lunch: 1 x Herbert Adams chicken, leek & camembert pie.
Verdict: not as nice as his beef and lamb pies.
Bummer.
Lunch is a tuna and onion sanger and a cuppa.
Peak Warming Man said:
Lunch is a tuna and onion sanger and a cuppa.
I think we’re having hot tuna for lunch. Small can of tuna, tomatoes, capsicum, mushrooms and onion, stewed up, thickened and lightly spiced. Serve in bowls. Lovely.
:)
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Lunch is a tuna and onion sanger and a cuppa.
I think we’re having hot tuna for lunch. Small can of tuna, tomatoes, capsicum, mushrooms and onion, stewed up, thickened and lightly spiced. Serve in bowls. Lovely.
:)
Tuna in olive oil or water?
I much prefer my canned tuna to be in olive oil.
Peak Warming Man said:
Lunch is a tuna and onion sanger and a cuppa.
We had focaccia toasties from the bakery when we got back with the meat order. It was over $700 this week. Just as well they’ve arranged to do online paying so I don’t have to stump up and then get reimbursed. Included three full topside roasts and kilos and kilos of pie mince and sausage mince and diced lamb. I think the young fellow at the butcher said it was over 50kg in total.
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Lunch is a tuna and onion sanger and a cuppa.
I think we’re having hot tuna for lunch. Small can of tuna, tomatoes, capsicum, mushrooms and onion, stewed up, thickened and lightly spiced. Serve in bowls. Lovely.
:)
Tuna in olive oil or water?
I much prefer my canned tuna to be in olive oil.
Oil. I also prefer tuna, sardines, sprats, kippers etc in oil.
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Lunch is a tuna and onion sanger and a cuppa.
We had focaccia toasties from the bakery when we got back with the meat order. It was over $700 this week. Just as well they’ve arranged to do online paying so I don’t have to stump up and then get reimbursed. Included three full topside roasts and kilos and kilos of pie mince and sausage mince and diced lamb. I think the young fellow at the butcher said it was over 50kg in total.
Looks like the little shop is doing alright.
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Lunch is a tuna and onion sanger and a cuppa.
We had focaccia toasties from the bakery when we got back with the meat order. It was over $700 this week. Just as well they’ve arranged to do online paying so I don’t have to stump up and then get reimbursed. Included three full topside roasts and kilos and kilos of pie mince and sausage mince and diced lamb. I think the young fellow at the butcher said it was over 50kg in total.
Looks like the little shop is doing alright.
They are doing very well. They are a little cagey, rightly so, but I suspect better than they could have expected. They were still in the startup phase, they haven’t been there a year yet. But not paying staff for serving tables and washing up has, I suspect, balanced out with having to go all takeaway. And the word has definitely gone out around the district that you can order pies. So many family pies have to be made. They did actually nearly run out of meat by Saturday last week, which is why our run was early this morning. They had some made up stuff, but the pantry was almost bare.
I spoke to the florist on Saturday morning, next door to where my practice was and she has not gone backwards either. Mothers Day was as good as usual.
I don’t know how the optometrist has been going. He went back to only opening mornings for a while there, but is now back to full time. I don’t ask, because in the past I’ve been told fibs. I never minded saying that I was booked up for 2 weeks, 3 weeks, 2 months, whatever. But don’t tell me fibs when I can just go online and check when I could get an appointment with you…
Anyway, I’ll be off to do some social distancing.

The shipping cost is a bit hexy.

Peak Warming Man said:
The shipping cost is a bit hexy.
Nah. Bulky and heavy items cost money to transport.
I think Lizza the chook is getting blousy, and her comb is reddening up. She can’t be far from laying again.
party_pants said:
Peak Warming Man said:
The shipping cost is a bit hexy.
Nah. Bulky and heavy items cost money to transport.
$260 to sit mostly in the back of a truck is crazy.
It was a bit bleak in Casterton this morning.
I’d better write to Mum. You lot don’t really want to see the pictures of seedlings in my garden that I took to occupy her mind.
:)
buffy said:
I think Lizza the chook is getting blousy, and her comb is reddening up. She can’t be far from laying again.
Nice and plump.
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
I think Lizza the chook is getting blousy, and her comb is reddening up. She can’t be far from laying again.
Nice and plump.
delicious looking.
Arts said:
party_pants said:
Peak Warming Man said:
The shipping cost is a bit hexy.
Nah. Bulky and heavy items cost money to transport.
$260 to sit mostly in the back of a truck is crazy.
The tyranny of distance and all that. This is the cost of doing business in Australia.
party_pants said:
Arts said:
party_pants said:Nah. Bulky and heavy items cost money to transport.
$260 to sit mostly in the back of a truck is crazy.
The tyranny of distance and all that. This is the cost of doing business in Australia.
Nah, it’s a mistake.
party_pants said:
Arts said:
party_pants said:Nah. Bulky and heavy items cost money to transport.
$260 to sit mostly in the back of a truck is crazy.
The tyranny of distance and all that. This is the cost of doing business in Australia.
Surely someone sells chains in Brisbane?
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
Arts said:$260 to sit mostly in the back of a truck is crazy.
The tyranny of distance and all that. This is the cost of doing business in Australia.
Surely someone sells chains in Brisbane?
Why go that far? Rural suppliers ship bulk of the stuff.
“Stage two arrives in SA, and 80 people are allowed in pubs”
I don’t think I’ve been in a pub with 80 people in it for more than 10 years.
Peak Warming Man said:
“Stage two arrives in SA, and 80 people are allowed in pubs”I don’t think I’ve been in a pub with 80 people in it for more than 10 years.
Still some way to go before Bill Bailey can re-tell his original pub joke though.
buffy said:
It was a bit bleak in Casterton this morning.
I’d better write to Mum. You lot don’t really want to see the pictures of seedlings in my garden that I took to occupy her mind.
:)
We could be in for a rough winter this year or it might just seem like that because my bones are getting old.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:
“Stage two arrives in SA, and 80 people are allowed in pubs”I don’t think I’ve been in a pub with 80 people in it for more than 10 years.
Still some way to go before Bill Bailey can re-tell his original pub joke though.
About the Holy Ghost, an ineffable manifestation of a conceptual entity, that one?
Peak Warming Man said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:
“Stage two arrives in SA, and 80 people are allowed in pubs”I don’t think I’ve been in a pub with 80 people in it for more than 10 years.
Still some way to go before Bill Bailey can re-tell his original pub joke though.
About the Holy Ghost, an ineffable manifestation of a conceptual entity, that one?
No:
Three blokes go into a pub.
Well, I say three; could have been four or five.
Could have been nine or ten, doesn’t matter.
Could have been fifteen, twenty – fifty. Round it up. Hundred.
Let’s go mad, eh – two-fifty. Tell you what, double it up – five hundred. Thousand!
Oh, I’ve gone mad! Two thousand!
Five thousand! (adopting auctioneer persona) anyone five thousand, six thou, six thousand, ten thousand!
Small town in Hertfordshire goes into a pub!
Fifteen thousand blokes!
Alright, let’s go – population of Rotterdam. The Hague. Whole of Northern Holland.
Mainland U.K. Let’s go all the way to the top – Europe, alright?
Whole of Europe goes – I say Europe. Could be Eurasia.
Not the band, obviously, that’s just two of them.
Alright, continents – North America! Plus South America!
Plus Antartica – that’s just eight blokes in a weather station. Not a good example.
Alright, make it a lot simpler, all the blokes on the planet go into the pub, right?
And the first bloke goes up to the bar and he says “I’ll get these in.”
What an idiot.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Still some way to go before Bill Bailey can re-tell his original pub joke though.
About the Holy Ghost, an ineffable manifestation of a conceptual entity, that one?
No:
Three blokes go into a pub.
Well, I say three; could have been four or five.
Could have been nine or ten, doesn’t matter.
Could have been fifteen, twenty – fifty. Round it up. Hundred.
Let’s go mad, eh – two-fifty. Tell you what, double it up – five hundred. Thousand!
Oh, I’ve gone mad! Two thousand!
Five thousand! (adopting auctioneer persona) anyone five thousand, six thou, six thousand, ten thousand!
Small town in Hertfordshire goes into a pub!
Fifteen thousand blokes!
Alright, let’s go – population of Rotterdam. The Hague. Whole of Northern Holland.
Mainland U.K. Let’s go all the way to the top – Europe, alright?
Whole of Europe goes – I say Europe. Could be Eurasia.
Not the band, obviously, that’s just two of them.
Alright, continents – North America! Plus South America!
Plus Antartica – that’s just eight blokes in a weather station. Not a good example.
Alright, make it a lot simpler, all the blokes on the planet go into the pub, right?
And the first bloke goes up to the bar and he says “I’ll get these in.”
What an idiot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0RMu6d3QDw
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Still some way to go before Bill Bailey can re-tell his original pub joke though.
About the Holy Ghost, an ineffable manifestation of a conceptual entity, that one?
No:
Three blokes go into a pub.
Well, I say three; could have been four or five.
Could have been nine or ten, doesn’t matter.
Could have been fifteen, twenty – fifty. Round it up. Hundred.
Let’s go mad, eh – two-fifty. Tell you what, double it up – five hundred. Thousand!
Oh, I’ve gone mad! Two thousand!
Five thousand! (adopting auctioneer persona) anyone five thousand, six thou, six thousand, ten thousand!
Small town in Hertfordshire goes into a pub!
Fifteen thousand blokes!
Alright, let’s go – population of Rotterdam. The Hague. Whole of Northern Holland.
Mainland U.K. Let’s go all the way to the top – Europe, alright?
Whole of Europe goes – I say Europe. Could be Eurasia.
Not the band, obviously, that’s just two of them.
Alright, continents – North America! Plus South America!
Plus Antartica – that’s just eight blokes in a weather station. Not a good example.
Alright, make it a lot simpler, all the blokes on the planet go into the pub, right?
And the first bloke goes up to the bar and he says “I’ll get these in.”
What an idiot.
That’s got Bill Baily written all over it alright.
Arts said:
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
I think Lizza the chook is getting blousy, and her comb is reddening up. She can’t be far from laying again.
Nice and plump.
delicious looking.
:)
Peak Warming Man said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:About the Holy Ghost, an ineffable manifestation of a conceptual entity, that one?
No:
Three blokes go into a pub.
Well, I say three; could have been four or five.
Could have been nine or ten, doesn’t matter.
Could have been fifteen, twenty – fifty. Round it up. Hundred.
Let’s go mad, eh – two-fifty. Tell you what, double it up – five hundred. Thousand!
Oh, I’ve gone mad! Two thousand!
Five thousand! (adopting auctioneer persona) anyone five thousand, six thou, six thousand, ten thousand!
Small town in Hertfordshire goes into a pub!
Fifteen thousand blokes!
Alright, let’s go – population of Rotterdam. The Hague. Whole of Northern Holland.
Mainland U.K. Let’s go all the way to the top – Europe, alright?
Whole of Europe goes – I say Europe. Could be Eurasia.
Not the band, obviously, that’s just two of them.
Alright, continents – North America! Plus South America!
Plus Antartica – that’s just eight blokes in a weather station. Not a good example.
Alright, make it a lot simpler, all the blokes on the planet go into the pub, right?
And the first bloke goes up to the bar and he says “I’ll get these in.”
What an idiot.
That’s got Bill Baily written all over it alright.
Love his work.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:
“Stage two arrives in SA, and 80 people are allowed in pubs”I don’t think I’ve been in a pub with 80 people in it for more than 10 years.
Still some way to go before Bill Bailey can re-tell his original pub joke though.
And what’s that joke?
roughbarked said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0RMu6d3QDw
I thought you’d outsearched me, but I found that one.
Couldn’t find a video of the original 3 blokes go into a pub joke anywhere though.
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:
“Stage two arrives in SA, and 80 people are allowed in pubs”I don’t think I’ve been in a pub with 80 people in it for more than 10 years.
Still some way to go before Bill Bailey can re-tell his original pub joke though.
And what’s that joke?
Search and ye shall find :)
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:
“Stage two arrives in SA, and 80 people are allowed in pubs”I don’t think I’ve been in a pub with 80 people in it for more than 10 years.
Still some way to go before Bill Bailey can re-tell his original pub joke though.
And what’s that joke?
OK. Don’t reply. I’ve read it now.
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:
“Stage two arrives in SA, and 80 people are allowed in pubs”I don’t think I’ve been in a pub with 80 people in it for more than 10 years.
Still some way to go before Bill Bailey can re-tell his original pub joke though.
And what’s that joke?
It is a comedy routine more than a joke. They go into a themed bar and the theme is uncertainty. Heisenberg is the bar-tender. The rest is all just a string of small jokes around the theme, but no story or punch-line.
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0RMu6d3QDw
I thought you’d outsearched me, but I found that one.
Couldn’t find a video of the original 3 blokes go into a pub joke anywhere though.
Michael V said:
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Still some way to go before Bill Bailey can re-tell his original pub joke though.
And what’s that joke?
OK. Don’t reply. I’ve read it now.
The joke is probably in the delivery because, as written, it isn’t particularly funny…
Divine Angel said:
Woohoo, have hit 50k words.
Are they the best words?
roughbarked said:
Went here on the weekend. First visit in more than four decades. The condition of this reserve is the worst I’ve ever seen it yet still life is trickling along awaiting the possibility that something may change and bring a revitalization.
The hut was in disuse in 1976 and it appears as if nothing has been disturbed since then. Quite surprising how well it has stood the test of time otherwise.
The reserve was initially set up as a mallee fowl refuge. Last time I saw any vestige of a mallee fowl mound was in 1976 where I photographed Mrs rb eight and a half months preggers with our first child. The mound at the time hadn’t been used for a good while.
On this visit I couldn’t even find a footprint or any scratchings. Only kangaroo footprints and echidna restaurants. Many skeletons of kangaroo and emu. The Eucalypts were not collectively healthy, the ground was littered with manna. The only bird heard was a grey fantail, whereas in 1976 I photographed variegated wrens red capped robins and even a hooded robin nesting. Not that I ever saw any but the red lored whistler is also no longer seen there. As Graeme Chapman notes. https://www.graemechapman.com.au/library/viewphotos.php?c=563It would appear that the ooriginal reserve area dedicated to the purpose was far too small to maintain the diversity.
Yet I found greenhood rosettes among the struggling Halgania cyanea.
Mallee pine in places was still alive but mostly simply collapsed.
The main shrubs were struggling Eremophila glabra, though the Beyeria opaca seemed healthy enough. Olearia pimeleoides was present but scarce and only as small plants.
Think it needs a fire, amazing the rejuvenation and appearance of disappeared plants. The mallee near me is unrecognisable after fire with a complete transformation of vegetation, some of which only last twelve months and not to reappear until after the next fire. Quite a magical place at these times.
dv said:
Divine Angel said:
Woohoo, have hit 50k words.
Are they the best words?
They’re striking.
party_pants said:
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Still some way to go before Bill Bailey can re-tell his original pub joke though.
And what’s that joke?
It is a comedy routine more than a joke. They go into a themed bar and the theme is uncertainty. Heisenberg is the bar-tender. The rest is all just a string of small jokes around the theme, but no story or punch-line.
No, that’s another one from his vast range of three blokes (+-) go into a pub jokes.
Have any of y’all made ice cream?
dv said:
Have any of y’all made ice cream?
With nitrogen or the classical means ¿
dv said:
Have any of y’all made ice cream?
No. Sorry, I didn’t know we were supposed to. I didn’t get the memo.
dv said:
Have any of y’all made ice cream?
No.
dv said:
Have any of y’all made ice cream?
I have interfered with it at some length.
dv said:
Have any of y’all made ice cream?
Yes, kind of, not really…
furious said:
Michael V said:
Michael V said:And what’s that joke?
OK. Don’t reply. I’ve read it now.
The joke is probably in the delivery because, as written, it isn’t particularly funny…
I agree.
https://youtu.be/y5_neq3EzM8?t=251
dv said:
Have any of y’all made ice cream?
Nay.
My mother used to when I was a kid. It tasted horrible.
PermeateFree said:
roughbarked said:
Went here on the weekend. First visit in more than four decades. The condition of this reserve is the worst I’ve ever seen it yet still life is trickling along awaiting the possibility that something may change and bring a revitalization.
The hut was in disuse in 1976 and it appears as if nothing has been disturbed since then. Quite surprising how well it has stood the test of time otherwise.
The reserve was initially set up as a mallee fowl refuge. Last time I saw any vestige of a mallee fowl mound was in 1976 where I photographed Mrs rb eight and a half months preggers with our first child. The mound at the time hadn’t been used for a good while.
On this visit I couldn’t even find a footprint or any scratchings. Only kangaroo footprints and echidna restaurants. Many skeletons of kangaroo and emu. The Eucalypts were not collectively healthy, the ground was littered with manna. The only bird heard was a grey fantail, whereas in 1976 I photographed variegated wrens red capped robins and even a hooded robin nesting. Not that I ever saw any but the red lored whistler is also no longer seen there. As Graeme Chapman notes. https://www.graemechapman.com.au/library/viewphotos.php?c=563It would appear that the ooriginal reserve area dedicated to the purpose was far too small to maintain the diversity.
Yet I found greenhood rosettes among the struggling Halgania cyanea.
Mallee pine in places was still alive but mostly simply collapsed.
The main shrubs were struggling Eremophila glabra, though the Beyeria opaca seemed healthy enough. Olearia pimeleoides was present but scarce and only as small plants.
Think it needs a fire, amazing the rejuvenation and appearance of disappeared plants. The mallee near me is unrecognisable after fire with a complete transformation of vegetation, some of which only last twelve months and not to reappear until after the next fire. Quite a magical place at these times.
Hasn’t been a fire there during my lifetime. By the looks there hasn’t been a fire there in living memory of settlement.
roughbarked said:
PermeateFree said:
roughbarked said:
Went here on the weekend. First visit in more than four decades. The condition of this reserve is the worst I’ve ever seen it yet still life is trickling along awaiting the possibility that something may change and bring a revitalization.
The hut was in disuse in 1976 and it appears as if nothing has been disturbed since then. Quite surprising how well it has stood the test of time otherwise.
The reserve was initially set up as a mallee fowl refuge. Last time I saw any vestige of a mallee fowl mound was in 1976 where I photographed Mrs rb eight and a half months preggers with our first child. The mound at the time hadn’t been used for a good while.
On this visit I couldn’t even find a footprint or any scratchings. Only kangaroo footprints and echidna restaurants. Many skeletons of kangaroo and emu. The Eucalypts were not collectively healthy, the ground was littered with manna. The only bird heard was a grey fantail, whereas in 1976 I photographed variegated wrens red capped robins and even a hooded robin nesting. Not that I ever saw any but the red lored whistler is also no longer seen there. As Graeme Chapman notes. https://www.graemechapman.com.au/library/viewphotos.php?c=563It would appear that the ooriginal reserve area dedicated to the purpose was far too small to maintain the diversity.
Yet I found greenhood rosettes among the struggling Halgania cyanea.
Mallee pine in places was still alive but mostly simply collapsed.
The main shrubs were struggling Eremophila glabra, though the Beyeria opaca seemed healthy enough. Olearia pimeleoides was present but scarce and only as small plants.
Think it needs a fire, amazing the rejuvenation and appearance of disappeared plants. The mallee near me is unrecognisable after fire with a complete transformation of vegetation, some of which only last twelve months and not to reappear until after the next fire. Quite a magical place at these times.
Hasn’t been a fire there during my lifetime. By the looks there hasn’t been a fire there in living memory of settlement.
How would you even go about doing a prescribed burn there? Burn half then the other a few years later?
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:
PermeateFree said:Think it needs a fire, amazing the rejuvenation and appearance of disappeared plants. The mallee near me is unrecognisable after fire with a complete transformation of vegetation, some of which only last twelve months and not to reappear until after the next fire. Quite a magical place at these times.
Hasn’t been a fire there during my lifetime. By the looks there hasn’t been a fire there in living memory of settlement.
How would you even go about doing a prescribed burn there? Burn half then the other a few years later?
It is a small place. Pulletop Nature Reserve was created in January 1963. It covers an area of 145ha. View the detailed park and fire management documents.
Michael V said:
dv said:
Have any of y’all made ice cream?
Nay.
My mother used to when I was a kid. It tasted horrible.
It didn’t have to
.
She just made it that way so that you wouldn’t ask for it again.
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
dv said:
Have any of y’all made ice cream?
Nay.
My mother used to when I was a kid. It tasted horrible.
It didn’t have to
.
She just made it that way so that you wouldn’t ask for it again.
Clever lady ‘is mum.
Michael V said:
furious said:
Michael V said:OK. Don’t reply. I’ve read it now.
The joke is probably in the delivery because, as written, it isn’t particularly funny…
I agree.
Tough audience tonight.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:
furious said:The joke is probably in the delivery because, as written, it isn’t particularly funny…
I agree.
Tough audience tonight.
Already said , love his work.
Q. A truck driver careers around the corner, crashes through the doors of a pub, and comes to a stop against the bar. Is he guilty of an offence?
A. Not unless he was driving his truck at the time.
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:
PermeateFree said:Think it needs a fire, amazing the rejuvenation and appearance of disappeared plants. The mallee near me is unrecognisable after fire with a complete transformation of vegetation, some of which only last twelve months and not to reappear until after the next fire. Quite a magical place at these times.
Hasn’t been a fire there during my lifetime. By the looks there hasn’t been a fire there in living memory of settlement.
How would you even go about doing a prescribed burn there? Burn half then the other a few years later?
I think the mallee in large part relied on lightning strikes and so would often go for long periods without fire. So not as big a problem as heath country.
PermeateFree said:
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:Hasn’t been a fire there during my lifetime. By the looks there hasn’t been a fire there in living memory of settlement.
How would you even go about doing a prescribed burn there? Burn half then the other a few years later?
I think the mallee in large part relied on lightning strikes and so would often go for long periods without fire. So not as big a problem as heath country.
This.
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:I agree.
Tough audience tonight.
Already said , love his work.
https://youtu.be/MX1IjUzTtyc?t=25
captain_spalding said:
Q. A truck driver careers around the corner, crashes through the doors of a pub, and comes to a stop against the bar. Is he guilty of an offence?A. Not unless he was driving his truck at the time.
*careens
dv said:
captain_spalding said:
Q. A truck driver careers around the corner, crashes through the doors of a pub, and comes to a stop against the bar. Is he guilty of an offence?A. Not unless he was driving his truck at the time.
*careens
Steady.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Tough audience tonight.
Already said , love his work.
https://youtu.be/MX1IjUzTtyc?t=25
“There’s a butcher at the end of my road called Halal, is it meat you are looking for?”
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:Already said , love his work.
https://youtu.be/MX1IjUzTtyc?t=25
“There’s a butcher at the end of my road called Halal, is it meat you are looking for?”
“toughest job I ever had, selling doors door to door”.
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
dv said:
Have any of y’all made ice cream?
Nay.
My mother used to when I was a kid. It tasted horrible.
It didn’t have to
.
She just made it that way so that you wouldn’t ask for it again.
She wasn’t much of a cook, and still isn’t.
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:Nay.
My mother used to when I was a kid. It tasted horrible.
It didn’t have to
.
She just made it that way so that you wouldn’t ask for it again.
She wasn’t much of a cook, and still isn’t.
She suffered from a time before multicultural cuisine.
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:Nay.
My mother used to when I was a kid. It tasted horrible.
It didn’t have to
.
She just made it that way so that you wouldn’t ask for it again.
She wasn’t much of a cook, and still isn’t.
Well, if she was cooking ice cream, I suspect that was her first mistake…
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:It didn’t have to
.
She just made it that way so that you wouldn’t ask for it again.
She wasn’t much of a cook, and still isn’t.
She suffered from a time before multicultural cuisine.
Not really. She tried to cook, but wasn’t much good at it and didn’t like cooking. She had the propensity to turn many foods into the perfect rubber substitute, or burn stuff.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:She wasn’t much of a cook, and still isn’t.
She suffered from a time before multicultural cuisine.
Not really. She tried to cook, but wasn’t much good at it and didn’t like cooking. She had the propensity to turn many foods into the perfect rubber substitute, or burn stuff.
I supect that this is where you tried cooking for yourself?

dv said:
Have any of y’all made ice cream?
Yes.
Divine Angel said:
dv said:
Have any of y’all made ice cream?
Yes.
Did you use an ice cream maker?
dv said:
Divine Angel said:
dv said:
Have any of y’all made ice cream?
Yes.
Did you use an ice cream maker?
Yes.
dv said:
Divine Angel said:
dv said:
Have any of y’all made ice cream?
Yes.
Did you use an ice cream maker?
By definition she is an ice cream maker.
dv said:
Divine Angel said:
dv said:
Have any of y’all made ice cream?
Yes.
Did you use an ice cream maker?
When I said “Yes, kind of, not really…” it was because my attempts have been without an ice cream maker…
furious said:
dv said:
Divine Angel said:Yes.
Did you use an ice cream maker?
When I said “Yes, kind of, not really…” it was because my attempts have been without an ice cream maker…
Have you ever made bread without a bread maker?
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:She suffered from a time before multicultural cuisine.
Not really. She tried to cook, but wasn’t much good at it and didn’t like cooking. She had the propensity to turn many foods into the perfect rubber substitute, or burn stuff.
I supect that this is where you tried cooking for yourself?
Yep. I was cooking breakfasts by age 7 and dinners by age 11.
dv said:
Have any of y’all made ice cream?
Yes. Without an icecream maker.
Hang on, I need to catch up more.
buffy said:
dv said:
Have any of y’all made ice cream?
Yes. Without an icecream maker.
Hang on, I need to catch up more.
drums fingers

PermeateFree said:
That’s America.
furious said:
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:It didn’t have to
.
She just made it that way so that you wouldn’t ask for it again.
She wasn’t much of a cook, and still isn’t.
Well, if she was cooking ice cream, I suspect that was her first mistake…
dv said:
Divine Angel said:
dv said:
Have any of y’all made ice cream?
Yes.
Did you use an ice cream maker?
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
dv said:
Have any of y’all made ice cream?
Yes. Without an icecream maker.
Hang on, I need to catch up more.
drums fingers
OK, caught up. This icecream is for when your chooks are laying well. It’s very rich. And if you are bothered about raw eggs, it’s not for you. I use very fresh eggs.
Beat 8 eggs at high speed until light and fluffy. Keep beating and slowly add in 400g sugar (I only use 200g, I don’t like it too sweet). Keep beating until it is smooth.
In a separate bowl beat 600ml cream with 1Tb vanilla essence and some fruit puree or other flavouring as desired.
Fold the mixtures together, pour/spoon into a suitable container and freeze.
(My notes: You can make it chocolate by using chocolate sauce for flavouring: Melt together cooking chocolate and cream to make a sauce. Let it cool before putting it into the icecream mix. Soft fruit puree works best. Plum is surprisingly good. Things with seeds (strawberries, raspberries etc) provide crystal making spots and the icecream tastes good but is not creamy)
furious said:
Michael V said:
Michael V said:And what’s that joke?
OK. Don’t reply. I’ve read it now.
The joke is probably in the delivery because, as written, it isn’t particularly funny…
probably why my jokes come across as unfunny.
furious said:
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:It didn’t have to
.
She just made it that way so that you wouldn’t ask for it again.
She wasn’t much of a cook, and still isn’t.
Well, if she was cooking ice cream, I suspect that was her first mistake…
Some icecreams are made from a custard base. So there is some cooking involved.
dv said:
Divine Angel said:
dv said:
Have any of y’all made ice cream?
Yes.
Did you use an ice cream maker?
Yes, and no.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:Not really. She tried to cook, but wasn’t much good at it and didn’t like cooking. She had the propensity to turn many foods into the perfect rubber substitute, or burn stuff.
I supect that this is where you tried cooking for yourself?
Yep. I was cooking breakfasts by age 7 and dinners by age 11.
Ah, so that’s the secret to getting your kids to cook!
Bogsnorkler said:
furious said:
Michael V said:OK. Don’t reply. I’ve read it now.
The joke is probably in the delivery because, as written, it isn’t particularly funny…
probably why my jokes come across as unfunny.
There may be another reason for that, too.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:Not really. She tried to cook, but wasn’t much good at it and didn’t like cooking. She had the propensity to turn many foods into the perfect rubber substitute, or burn stuff.
I supect that this is where you tried cooking for yourself?
Yep. I was cooking breakfasts by age 7 and dinners by age 11.
Sounds like Mr Speedy’s mother’s cooking. Her latest cuisine is slow-cooked spaghetti marinara sauce. Thankfully, they had good German neighbours where he grew up, so he survived it.
Why were those space-x astronauts wearing wellies?
btm said:
Bogsnorkler said:
furious said:The joke is probably in the delivery because, as written, it isn’t particularly funny…
probably why my jokes come across as unfunny.
There may be another reason for that, too.
wrong typeface?
Bogsnorkler said:
btm said:
Bogsnorkler said:probably why my jokes come across as unfunny.
There may be another reason for that, too.
wrong typeface?
Bogsnorkler said:
Why were those space-x astronauts wearing wellies?
Because they don’t need sneakers in space.
Bogsnorkler said:
Why were those space-x astronauts wearing wellies?
All space-x employees must be ready to rescue kids from a flooded cave at a moments notice…
furious said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Why were those space-x astronauts wearing wellies?
All space-x employees must be ready to rescue kids from a flooded cave at a moments notice…
of course!
Bogsnorkler said:
Why were those space-x astronauts wearing wellies?
How long have you been working on this one?
But anyway..
I don’t know, why were those space-x astronauts wearing wellies?
Bogsnorkler said:
furious said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Why were those space-x astronauts wearing wellies?
All space-x employees must be ready to rescue kids from a flooded cave at a moments notice…
of course!
lady – finished with the shapes?
me – nah
lady – want a coffee?
me – yeah
grabs bbq shaped off the coffee table
larry turns up looking like my best friend
and family returns home from op shop
coffee landed
did you know that some army vehicles have low IR transmission patches on the body that show up as dark rectangles when viewed through night vision and flir targeting cameras to prevent, hopefully, receiving friendly fire in low light and poor visibility situations?
front of turret
buffy said:
dv said:
Have any of y’all made ice cream?
Yes. Without an icecream maker.
Hang on, I need to catch up more.
Cool. Please tell me your preferred methodology and ingredients.
Bogsnorkler said:
did you know that some army vehicles have low IR transmission patches on the body that show up as dark rectangles when viewed through night vision and flir targeting cameras to prevent, hopefully, receiving friendly fire in low light and poor visibility situations?front of turret
Wouldn’t mind one of those for the Redoubt, sitting near to the shed covered in branches
Peak Warming Man said:
Bogsnorkler said:
did you know that some army vehicles have low IR transmission patches on the body that show up as dark rectangles when viewed through night vision and flir targeting cameras to prevent, hopefully, receiving friendly fire in low light and poor visibility situations?front of turret
Wouldn’t mind one of those for the Redoubt, sitting near to the shed covered in branches
Not much good without shells.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bogsnorkler said:
did you know that some army vehicles have low IR transmission patches on the body that show up as dark rectangles when viewed through night vision and flir targeting cameras to prevent, hopefully, receiving friendly fire in low light and poor visibility situations?front of turret
Wouldn’t mind one of those for the Redoubt, sitting near to the shed covered in branches
give those duffers a bit of a scare.
Bogsnorkler said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bogsnorkler said:
did you know that some army vehicles have low IR transmission patches on the body that show up as dark rectangles when viewed through night vision and flir targeting cameras to prevent, hopefully, receiving friendly fire in low light and poor visibility situations?front of turret
Wouldn’t mind one of those for the Redoubt, sitting near to the shed covered in branches
give those duffers a bit of a scare.
Oh yes.
Pizza tonight, proper Italian pizza from the trattoria
I had visitors. They played trains.
Peak Warming Man said:
Pizza tonight, proper Italian pizza from the trattoria
No pineapple on the pizza, then?
sarahs mum said:
I had visitors. They played trains.
![]()
![]()
![]()
![]()
mescaline, nice
SCIENCE said:
sarahs mum said:
I had visitors. They played trains.
![]()
![]()
![]()
![]()
mescaline, nice
Might have been the Marrakesh Express
sarahs mum said:
I had visitors. They played trains.
![]()
![]()
![]()
![]()
The passenger appears to be a bit perturbed about the driving.
:)
sarahs mum said:
I had visitors. They played trains.
![]()
![]()
![]()
![]()
:) They look close in age.
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:
I had visitors. They played trains.
![]()
![]()
![]()
![]()
The passenger appears to be a bit perturbed about the driving.
:)
She was so good. She sat in that box for ages.
Speedy said:
sarahs mum said:
I had visitors. They played trains.
![]()
![]()
![]()
![]()
:) They look close in age.
Maddy is 8 months. Henry was three in March.
Is PWM around?
Add bicycle disc brakes to the list of things….
sarahs mum said:
I had visitors. They played trains.
![]()
![]()
![]()
![]()
Aww widdle cutie patooties!!
Tonight we’re having potato bake with sausages and veg.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Peak Warming Man said:Wouldn’t mind one of those for the Redoubt, sitting near to the shed covered in branches
give those duffers a bit of a scare.
Oh yes.
dark web
Hey dv…post ID 1565585
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:Yes. Without an icecream maker.
Hang on, I need to catch up more.
drums fingers
OK, caught up. This icecream is for when your chooks are laying well. It’s very rich. And if you are bothered about raw eggs, it’s not for you. I use very fresh eggs.
Beat 8 eggs at high speed until light and fluffy. Keep beating and slowly add in 400g sugar (I only use 200g, I don’t like it too sweet). Keep beating until it is smooth.
In a separate bowl beat 600ml cream with 1Tb vanilla essence and some fruit puree or other flavouring as desired.
Fold the mixtures together, pour/spoon into a suitable container and freeze.
(My notes: You can make it chocolate by using chocolate sauce for flavouring: Melt together cooking chocolate and cream to make a sauce. Let it cool before putting it into the icecream mix. Soft fruit puree works best. Plum is surprisingly good. Things with seeds (strawberries, raspberries etc) provide crystal making spots and the icecream tastes good but is not creamy)
thank you
party_pants said:
Is PWM around?Add bicycle disc brakes to the list of things….
What happened?
sarahs mum said:
I had visitors. They played trains.
![]()
![]()
![]()
![]()
Hey!
:)
PermeateFree said:
Ha!
Michael V said:
party_pants said:
Is PWM around?Add bicycle disc brakes to the list of things….
What happened?
The thing was bent/warped slightly straight out of the box. I’ve been trying to true it up so I can re-adjust the brake to just how I like it. It is a bit too loose and if you try tightening it it just rubs against the pads and makes noises. It can’t be adjusted unless the disc is true. I’ve just been faffing about for 90 minutes trying to bend it back into shape and got nowhere, if anything it is slightly worse now than when I started.
I’ll have to take a fresh look at it tomorrow or something.
buffy said:
furious said:
Michael V said:She wasn’t much of a cook, and still isn’t.
Well, if she was cooking ice cream, I suspect that was her first mistake…
Some icecreams are made from a custard base. So there is some cooking involved.
And, ice cream was developed before mechanical refrigeration was developed.
Speedy said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:I supect that this is where you tried cooking for yourself?
Yep. I was cooking breakfasts by age 7 and dinners by age 11.
Sounds like Mr Speedy’s mother’s cooking. Her latest cuisine is slow-cooked spaghetti marinara sauce. Thankfully, they had good German neighbours where he grew up, so he survived it.
:)
furious said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Why were those space-x astronauts wearing wellies?
All space-x employees must be ready to rescue kids from a flooded cave at a moments notice…
LOL
sarahs mum said:
Speedy said:
sarahs mum said:
I had visitors. They played trains.
![]()
![]()
![]()
![]()
:) They look close in age.
Maddy is 8 months. Henry was three in March.
:)
party_pants said:
Michael V said:
party_pants said:
Is PWM around?Add bicycle disc brakes to the list of things….
What happened?
The thing was bent/warped slightly straight out of the box. I’ve been trying to true it up so I can re-adjust the brake to just how I like it. It is a bit too loose and if you try tightening it it just rubs against the pads and makes noises. It can’t be adjusted unless the disc is true. I’ve just been faffing about for 90 minutes trying to bend it back into shape and got nowhere, if anything it is slightly worse now than when I started.
I’ll have to take a fresh look at it tomorrow or something.
Straightening a brake disc is well nigh impossible.
From a random e-mail:
Baidu releases quantum machine learning toolkit on GitHub
Is “quantum machine learning” a real thing, or just a bit of hype?
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
I had visitors. They played trains.
![]()
![]()
![]()
![]()
Hey!
:)
TOOT!
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
I had visitors. They played trains.
![]()
![]()
![]()
![]()
Hey!
:)
TOOT!
Michael V said:
party_pants said:
Michael V said:What happened?
The thing was bent/warped slightly straight out of the box. I’ve been trying to true it up so I can re-adjust the brake to just how I like it. It is a bit too loose and if you try tightening it it just rubs against the pads and makes noises. It can’t be adjusted unless the disc is true. I’ve just been faffing about for 90 minutes trying to bend it back into shape and got nowhere, if anything it is slightly worse now than when I started.
I’ll have to take a fresh look at it tomorrow or something.
Straightening a brake disc is well nigh impossible.
Seems like I have been using the wrong technique and the wrong tools. There’s a few vids on YouTube where they use a special bending tool. Maybe a big shifting spanner might do it, but it has to be done a little at a time with care and patience. These last two qualities are in short supply for the rest of this afternoon.
Woodie said:
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
I had visitors. They played trains.
![]()
![]()
![]()
![]()
Hey!
:)
TOOT!
I must ask, did he turn from a bear back into a boy again?
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Speedy said::) They look close in age.
Maddy is 8 months. Henry was three in March.
:)
The bear in the last frame is my Ted. Today Sarah was calling it ‘Antique Bear’ And telling Henry he had to be careful with it. Little does she know but Ted is a real survivor.
Woodie said:
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
I had visitors. They played trains.
![]()
![]()
![]()
![]()
Hey!
:)
TOOT!
The second frame is toting.
sarahs mum said:
Woodie said:
Michael V said:Hey!
:)
TOOT!
The second frame is toting.
tooting.
sarahs mum said:
I had visitors. They played trains.
![]()
![]()
![]()
![]()
Looks like fun.
Maybe I should give it a go.
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
I had visitors. They played trains.
![]()
![]()
![]()
![]()
Looks like fun.
Maybe I should give it a go.
If you get around to visiting I will get some larger boxes.
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
I had visitors. They played trains.
![]()
![]()
![]()
![]()
Looks like fun.
Maybe I should give it a go.
If you get around to visiting I will get some larger boxes.
deal
:)
party_pants said:
Michael V said:
party_pants said:The thing was bent/warped slightly straight out of the box. I’ve been trying to true it up so I can re-adjust the brake to just how I like it. It is a bit too loose and if you try tightening it it just rubs against the pads and makes noises. It can’t be adjusted unless the disc is true. I’ve just been faffing about for 90 minutes trying to bend it back into shape and got nowhere, if anything it is slightly worse now than when I started.
I’ll have to take a fresh look at it tomorrow or something.
Straightening a brake disc is well nigh impossible.
Seems like I have been using the wrong technique and the wrong tools. There’s a few vids on YouTube where they use a special bending tool. Maybe a big shifting spanner might do it, but it has to be done a little at a time with care and patience. These last two qualities are in short supply for the rest of this afternoon.
Take it back to the supplier. It should be true straight out of the box; if it’s not it’s not fit for purpose.
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
I had visitors. They played trains.
![]()
![]()
![]()
![]()
Looks like fun.
Maybe I should give it a go.
Well, at least you wouldn’t have to worry about the brakes.
party_pants said:
Michael V said:
party_pants said:The thing was bent/warped slightly straight out of the box. I’ve been trying to true it up so I can re-adjust the brake to just how I like it. It is a bit too loose and if you try tightening it it just rubs against the pads and makes noises. It can’t be adjusted unless the disc is true. I’ve just been faffing about for 90 minutes trying to bend it back into shape and got nowhere, if anything it is slightly worse now than when I started.
I’ll have to take a fresh look at it tomorrow or something.
Straightening a brake disc is well nigh impossible.
Seems like I have been using the wrong technique and the wrong tools. There’s a few vids on YouTube where they use a special bending tool. Maybe a big shifting spanner might do it, but it has to be done a little at a time with care and patience. These last two qualities are in short supply for the rest of this afternoon.
I can understand.
Michael V said:
buffy said:
furious said:Well, if she was cooking ice cream, I suspect that was her first mistake…
Some icecreams are made from a custard base. So there is some cooking involved.
And, ice cream was developed before mechanical refrigeration was developed.
salt…?
buffy said:
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
I had visitors. They played trains.
![]()
![]()
![]()
![]()
Looks like fun.
Maybe I should give it a go.
Well, at least you wouldn’t have to worry about the brakes.
*nods
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
buffy said:Some icecreams are made from a custard base. So there is some cooking involved.
And, ice cream was developed before mechanical refrigeration was developed.
salt…?
Salt.
Ice cream was made possible only by the discovery of the endothermic effect. Prior to this, cream could only be chilled but not frozen. It was the addition to salt that lowered the melting point of the ice, which has the effect of drawing heat from the cream and allowing it to freeze. The first known record of this comes from the Indian poem Pancatantra, dating to the 4th century AD. The earliest written description of the process is known not from culinary texts, but the 13th century writings of Ibn Abu Usaybia concerning medicine. The technique of “freezing” is not known from any European sources prior to the 16th century.
dv said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:salt…?
Salt.
Ice cream was made possible only by the discovery of the endothermic effect. Prior to this, cream could only be chilled but not frozen. It was the addition to salt that lowered the melting point of the ice, which has the effect of drawing heat from the cream and allowing it to freeze. The first known record of this comes from the Indian poem Pancatantra, dating to the 4th century AD. The earliest written description of the process is known not from culinary texts, but the 13th century writings of Ibn Abu Usaybia concerning medicine. The technique of “freezing” is not known from any European sources prior to the 16th century.I only added the ? because…memory+age.
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
buffy said:Some icecreams are made from a custard base. So there is some cooking involved.
And, ice cream was developed before mechanical refrigeration was developed.
salt…?
Yeah, and then endothermic reactions.
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
Bogsnorkler said:Salt.
Ice cream was made possible only by the discovery of the endothermic effect. Prior to this, cream could only be chilled but not frozen. It was the addition to salt that lowered the melting point of the ice, which has the effect of drawing heat from the cream and allowing it to freeze. The first known record of this comes from the Indian poem Pancatantra, dating to the 4th century AD. The earliest written description of the process is known not from culinary texts, but the 13th century writings of Ibn Abu Usaybia concerning medicine. The technique of “freezing” is not known from any European sources prior to the 16th century.I only added the ? because…memory+age.
ikr
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:And, ice cream was developed before mechanical refrigeration was developed.
salt…?
Yeah, and then other endothermic reactions.
fixed.
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:
I had visitors. They played trains.
![]()
![]()
![]()
![]()
The passenger appears to be a bit perturbed about the driving.
:)
She was so good. She sat in that box for ages.
It’s not a box it’s a train carriage.
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:The passenger appears to be a bit perturbed about the driving.
:)
She was so good. She sat in that box for ages.
It’s not a box it’s a train carriage.
:)
Woodie said:
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
I had visitors. They played trains.
![]()
![]()
![]()
![]()
Hey!
:)
TOOT!
Get hard copies of those!
(Daughter visited over the weekend, and we had great fun looking through faded old photos from about 30 years ago)
The Rev Dodgson said:
Woodie said:
Michael V said:Hey!
:)
TOOT!
Get hard copies of those!
(Daughter visited over the weekend, and we had great fun looking through faded old photos from about 30 years ago)
YOu’re right . I should get some photos printed.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-01/runner-completes-marathon-inside-alice-springs-hotel-quarantine/12307154
the advertising revenue from the video will go towards replacing the carpet
Gotta say I’m having serious thoughts about dropping uni. I really do not enjoy any of the maths and as I look through the courses to come it just gets deeper and worse.
I haven’t really learnt anything much about machinery, etc, that I don’t already know anyway.
Spiny Norman said:
Gotta say I’m having serious thoughts about dropping uni. I really do not enjoy any of the maths and as I look through the courses to come it just gets deeper and worse.
I haven’t really learnt anything much about machinery, etc, that I don’t already know anyway.
That’s a shame, how close are you to finishing?
Spiny Norman said:
Gotta say I’m having serious thoughts about dropping uni. I really do not enjoy any of the maths and as I look through the courses to come it just gets deeper and worse.
I haven’t really learnt anything much about machinery, etc, that I don’t already know anyway.
Ugh, man. That’s tough. Is the syllabus set or can you pick and choose your own subjects?
promite for a change, on white rye bread
dv said:
Spiny Norman said:
Gotta say I’m having serious thoughts about dropping uni. I really do not enjoy any of the maths and as I look through the courses to come it just gets deeper and worse.
I haven’t really learnt anything much about machinery, etc, that I don’t already know anyway.
That’s a shame, how close are you to finishing?
Not remotely close. I’m only a bit into 2nd year.
Rule 303 said:
Spiny Norman said:
Gotta say I’m having serious thoughts about dropping uni. I really do not enjoy any of the maths and as I look through the courses to come it just gets deeper and worse.
I haven’t really learnt anything much about machinery, etc, that I don’t already know anyway.
Ugh, man. That’s tough. Is the syllabus set or can you pick and choose your own subjects?
Set, though I can pick any 1 – 4 of the four on offer for each semester.
btm said:
party_pants said:
Michael V said:Straightening a brake disc is well nigh impossible.
Seems like I have been using the wrong technique and the wrong tools. There’s a few vids on YouTube where they use a special bending tool. Maybe a big shifting spanner might do it, but it has to be done a little at a time with care and patience. These last two qualities are in short supply for the rest of this afternoon.
Take it back to the supplier. It should be true straight out of the box; if it’s not it’s not fit for purpose.
Your local bike shop should be able to straighten it up.
(says he, confidently, not really having any idea about disk brakes)
Spiny Norman said:
dv said:
Spiny Norman said:
Gotta say I’m having serious thoughts about dropping uni. I really do not enjoy any of the maths and as I look through the courses to come it just gets deeper and worse.
I haven’t really learnt anything much about machinery, etc, that I don’t already know anyway.
That’s a shame, how close are you to finishing?
Not remotely close. I’m only a bit into 2nd year.
Drop out into sculpture and furniture design?
sarahs mum said:
Spiny Norman said:
dv said:That’s a shame, how close are you to finishing?
Not remotely close. I’m only a bit into 2nd year.
Drop out into sculpture and furniture design?
No thanks.
sarahs mum said:
I had visitors. They played trains.
![]()
![]()
![]()
![]()
ted’s trying bail out there in that last picture
nice pictures, some family fun
I had to be a mermaid barbie doll today for a while, had conversations with other dolls, did a lot of swimming, got chipped about my man voice and encouraged to speak in a female voice at one point
and also I had to have conversations with a parrot hand puppet for quite a while
btm said:
party_pants said:Seems like I have been using the wrong technique and the wrong tools. There’s a few vids on YouTube where they use a special bending tool. Maybe a big shifting spanner might do it, but it has to be done a little at a time with care and patience. These last two qualities are in short supply for the rest of this afternoon.
Take it back to the supplier. It should be true straight out of the box; if it’s not it’s not fit for purpose.
That does not seem to be an option. Seems like bent discs are just just considered normal wear and tear for riding them. Plus I got it from a department store. I don’t feel like trying to take it back and explain to them to nature of the very technical problem.
Now that I have seen the correct technique on some YouTube “how to videos, I’ll give it another go.
transition said:
sarahs mum said:
I had visitors. They played trains.
![]()
![]()
![]()
![]()
ted’s trying bail out there in that last picture
nice pictures, some family fun
I had to be a mermaid barbie doll today for a while, had conversations with other dolls, did a lot of swimming, got chipped about my man voice and encouraged to speak in a female voice at one point
and also I had to have conversations with a parrot hand puppet for quite a while
Did you get a chance to talk to the pet chook?
transition said:
sarahs mum said:
I had visitors. They played trains.
![]()
![]()
![]()
![]()
ted’s trying bail out there in that last picture
nice pictures, some family fun
I had to be a mermaid barbie doll today for a while, had conversations with other dolls, did a lot of swimming, got chipped about my man voice and encouraged to speak in a female voice at one point
and also I had to have conversations with a parrot hand puppet for quite a while
Maddie can only say Ba..ba..ba..ba. So I played her Barbara Ann on youtube and she liked it a lot. Flailed her little arms around.
Henry and I watched Tom Pemberton make silage.
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200529-the-surfaces-that-kill-bacteria-and-viruses
How good is copper.
Spiny Norman said:
Gotta say I’m having serious thoughts about dropping uni. I really do not enjoy any of the maths and as I look through the courses to come it just gets deeper and worse.
I haven’t really learnt anything much about machinery, etc, that I don’t already know anyway.
This is aerospace?

The 94-year-old monarch was pictured on a 14-year-old Fell Pony called Balmoral Fern over the weekend.
She regularly rides in the grounds of Windsor, which is said to be her favourite royal residence.
——————————————————
FMD if Chuck wants to be king he might have to arrange another sccident.
Spiny Norman said:
Gotta say I’m having serious thoughts about dropping uni. I really do not enjoy any of the maths and as I look through the courses to come it just gets deeper and worse.
I haven’t really learnt anything much about machinery, etc, that I don’t already know anyway.
Bummer.
:(
dv said:
Sad, hey.
CSIRO researchers heading for a Nobel prize
https://www.publish.csiro.au/en/EN19206
poikilotherm said:
CSIRO researchers heading for a Nobel prizehttps://www.publish.csiro.au/en/EN19206
How could they not?!
poikilotherm said:
CSIRO researchers heading for a Nobel prizehttps://www.publish.csiro.au/en/EN19206
Or an ig Nobel prize…
What brought you to find that?
Michael V said:
poikilotherm said:
CSIRO researchers heading for a Nobel prizehttps://www.publish.csiro.au/en/EN19206
Or an ig Nobel prize…
What brought you to find that?
News aggregator picked it up
poikilotherm said:
Michael V said:
poikilotherm said:
CSIRO researchers heading for a Nobel prizehttps://www.publish.csiro.au/en/EN19206
Or an ig Nobel prize…
What brought you to find that?
News aggregator picked it up
Ah. I don’t have one of those.
Michael V said:
poikilotherm said:
Michael V said:Or an ig Nobel prize…
What brought you to find that?
News aggregator picked it up
Ah. I don’t have one of those.
Would you like one?
poikilotherm said:
CSIRO researchers heading for a Nobel prizehttps://www.publish.csiro.au/en/EN19206
Could they manufacture that smell synthetically?
Tau.Neutrino said:
Wikipedia – News aggregator
Tau.Neutrino said:
Michael V said:
poikilotherm said:News aggregator picked it up
Ah. I don’t have one of those.
Would you like one?
I’m not sure. What are they? How do they work?
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Wikipedia – News aggregator
The 8GB Raspberry pi 4 is out now.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Wikipedia – News aggregator
Ta.
I enjoy reading headlines in various news and titles in journals. Gives me a sense of discovery. And it’s different each day, depending on my mood.
poikilotherm said:
CSIRO researchers heading for a Nobel prizehttps://www.publish.csiro.au/en/EN19206
I like it.
:)
Speedy said:
poikilotherm said:
CSIRO researchers heading for a Nobel prizehttps://www.publish.csiro.au/en/EN19206
Could they manufacture that smell synthetically?
Yes but what for?
Why not just hang your clothes on a line? You get it for free.
roughbarked said:
Speedy said:
poikilotherm said:
CSIRO researchers heading for a Nobel prizehttps://www.publish.csiro.au/en/EN19206
Could they manufacture that smell synthetically?
Yes but what for?
Why not just hang your clothes on a line? You get it for free.
It’s not a problem for us here, but overseas, hanging clothes on the line is often not an option.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Woodie said:
Michael V said:Hey!
:)
TOOT!
Get hard copies of those!
(Daughter visited over the weekend, and we had great fun looking through faded old photos from about 30 years ago)
Cardboard boxes and big paper bags, give kids so much to think about.
mixed nuts
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
lady just opened a packet
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:
Speedy said:Could they manufacture that smell synthetically?
Yes but what for?
Why not just hang your clothes on a line? You get it for free.
It’s not a problem for us here, but overseas, hanging clothes on the line is often not an option.
Except in summer when hanging clothes on the line results in them smelling of smoke…
furious said:
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:Yes but what for?
Why not just hang your clothes on a line? You get it for free.
It’s not a problem for us here, but overseas, hanging clothes on the line is often not an option.
Except in summer when hanging clothes on the line results in them smelling of smoke…
Depending upon where you are.. Out here it is likely Ordram or Lorsban.
sarahs mum said:
lol… what a dreadful thought ;)
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
lol… what a dreadful thought ;)
freaking ‘orrible thought.
sarahs mum said:
I had an uncle who played one of those. Lots of fun times but yes, one per family is enough :)
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
lol… what a dreadful thought ;)
In the right hands it’s actually quite a nice instrument.
Speedy said:
sarahs mum said:
I had an uncle who played one of those. Lots of fun times but yes, one per family is enough :)
One anywhere is plenty.
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
lol… what a dreadful thought ;)
In the right hands it’s actually quite a nice instrument.
Yes. I had a cousin who used to play one. He was good. He became a professional musician later in life. He also played the pipe organs in church every Sunday.
Buskers in the Hay Street Mall though… some of them should have been arrested.
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
lol… what a dreadful thought ;)
In the right hands it’s actually quite a nice instrument.
ME too. but 3 is probably to many.
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
lol… what a dreadful thought ;)
In the right hands it’s actually quite a nice instrument.
No argument there.
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:lol… what a dreadful thought ;)
In the right hands it’s actually quite a nice instrument.
ME too. but 3 is probably to many.
I was in school with a kid of Italian descent who was dressed up like Liberace and brought out at every local social event before he was big enough to be seen over the top of the accordion. Sadly he had only been taught Italian music. Not that there is anything wrong with Italian music but the same song set over and over gets a bit tired.
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:lol… what a dreadful thought ;)
In the right hands it’s actually quite a nice instrument.
Yes. I had a cousin who used to play one. He was good. He became a professional musician later in life. He also played the pipe organs in church every Sunday.
Buskers in the Hay Street Mall though… some of them should have been arrested.
Many buskers should get arrested even if they have a Strad in hand,
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:In the right hands it’s actually quite a nice instrument.
Yes. I had a cousin who used to play one. He was good. He became a professional musician later in life. He also played the pipe organs in church every Sunday.
Buskers in the Hay Street Mall though… some of them should have been arrested.
Many buskers should get arrested even if they have a Strad in hand,
There was one lady who used to stand near the train station and do very bad covers of Crowded House songs. So bad I chose to walk to the station a different way.
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:In the right hands it’s actually quite a nice instrument.
Yes. I had a cousin who used to play one. He was good. He became a professional musician later in life. He also played the pipe organs in church every Sunday.
Buskers in the Hay Street Mall though… some of them should have been arrested.
Many buskers should get arrested even if they have a Strad in hand,
This is when I am glad to be hard of hearing.
roughbarked said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:Yes. I had a cousin who used to play one. He was good. He became a professional musician later in life. He also played the pipe organs in church every Sunday.
Buskers in the Hay Street Mall though… some of them should have been arrested.
Many buskers should get arrested even if they have a Strad in hand,
This is when I am glad to be hard of hearing.
just kneel on their neck
rushes in
Bloody hell, have toy seen the news?
It’s nuts, nuts I tell you.
sibeen said:
rushes inBloody hell, have toy seen the news?
It’s nuts, nuts I tell you.
Wall to wall nuts.
sibeen said:
rushes inBloody hell, have toy seen the news?
It’s nuts, nuts I tell you.
settle petal, take a deep breath and tell us.
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:
rushes inBloody hell, have toy seen the news?
It’s nuts, nuts I tell you.
settle petal, take a deep breath and tell us.
takes deep breathes
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/jun/01/the-100-greatest-uk-no-1s-no-5-dead-or-alive-you-spin-me-round-like-a-record\\
takes deep breathes
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:
rushes inBloody hell, have toy seen the news?
It’s nuts, nuts I tell you.
settle petal, take a deep breath and tell us.
takes deep breathes
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/jun/01/the-100-greatest-uk-no-1s-no-5-dead-or-alive-you-spin-me-round-like-a-record\\
takes deep breathes
well deserved I say.
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:settle petal, take a deep breath and tell us.
takes deep breathes
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/jun/01/the-100-greatest-uk-no-1s-no-5-dead-or-alive-you-spin-me-round-like-a-record\\
takes deep breathes
well deserved I say.
I know that you’re just taking the piss.
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:
rushes inBloody hell, have toy seen the news?
It’s nuts, nuts I tell you.
settle petal, take a deep breath and tell us.
takes deep breathes
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/jun/01/the-100-greatest-uk-no-1s-no-5-dead-or-alive-you-spin-me-round-like-a-record\\
takes deep breathes
you gotta stop reading The Guardian if it upsets you so.
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:takes deep breathes
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/jun/01/the-100-greatest-uk-no-1s-no-5-dead-or-alive-you-spin-me-round-like-a-record\\
takes deep breathes
well deserved I say.
I know that you’re just taking the piss.
It was quite popular on some youtube clips when someone, something was spinning around in an uncontrolled or surprised fashion. i don’t think i have ever watched the whole clip.
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:well deserved I say.
I know that you’re just taking the piss.
It was quite popular on some youtube clips when someone, something was spinning around in an uncontrolled or surprised fashion. i don’t think i have ever watched the whole clip.
also it isn’t advisable to watch it all when you have a 75 × 2.5mm bullet head galv nail on the desk in front of you…
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:settle petal, take a deep breath and tell us.
takes deep breathes
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/jun/01/the-100-greatest-uk-no-1s-no-5-dead-or-alive-you-spin-me-round-like-a-record\\
takes deep breathes
you gotta stop reading The Guardian if it upsets you so.
But I help pay for the place.
sobs
Morning, bunnings freezing the styx..

“More than $12 billion of super has been accessed early with little oversight of the scheme, Labor says, and much of the cash spent on gambling and alcohol.”
How dare they spend their own money as they please.
Good morning Holidayers. Six degrees, overcast and mildly misty.
I see you are a bit colder than us this morning poik – clear skies at your place last night?
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Six degrees, overcast and mildly misty.I see you are a bit colder than us this morning poik – clear skies at your place last night?
No, snow/sleet/rainy most of the night and this morning.
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Six degrees, overcast and mildly misty.I see you are a bit colder than us this morning poik – clear skies at your place last night?
No, snow/sleet/rainy most of the night and this morning.
Ah. We usually get the very cold mornings after a magnificent dark clear sky with lots of sparkly stars.
Morning.
Slept in til a few minutes after 7, which means a mad rush to get Mini Me ready for school. Watching Mr Mutant do girly things for her, like get tights on her, is quite amusing.
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Six degrees, overcast and mildly misty.I see you are a bit colder than us this morning poik – clear skies at your place last night?
No, snow/sleet/rainy most of the night and this morning.
poikilotherm said:
Morning, bunnings freezing the styx..
“More than $12 billion of super has been accessed early with little oversight of the scheme, Labor says, and much of the cash spent on gambling and alcohol.”
How dare they spend their own money as they please.
Clear, 16.3°C, 83& RH and a light air today. BoM reckons it will get to 23°C today and that there’s no chance of rain.
Bread-baking and wonton-making today. Filling: minced skippy with fennel, celery, possibly carrot, and buffy’s small welsh onions.
Tamb said:
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Six degrees, overcast and mildly misty.I see you are a bit colder than us this morning poik – clear skies at your place last night?
No, snow/sleet/rainy most of the night and this morning.
Morning all.
I’m in Cairns atm. 21°>27. Winter is so tough.
LOL.
:)
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Six degrees, overcast and mildly misty.I see you are a bit colder than us this morning poik – clear skies at your place last night?
No, snow/sleet/rainy most of the night and this morning.
Brrrrr.
It’s gunna stay cold then.
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:well deserved I say.
I know that you’re just taking the piss.
It was quite popular on some youtube clips when someone, something was spinning around in an uncontrolled or surprised fashion. i don’t think i have ever watched the whole clip.
So have they spent the last 5 days working down the list, the last 96 days working up the list, or is there something special about no. 5?
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:I know that you’re just taking the piss.
It was quite popular on some youtube clips when someone, something was spinning around in an uncontrolled or surprised fashion. i don’t think i have ever watched the whole clip.
So have they spent the last 5 days working down the list, the last 96 days working up the list, or is there something special about no. 5?
Number five is alive.
So why did Kurt Russell kicj Elvis presley in the shin?
roughbarked said:
So why did Kurt Russell kicj Elvis Presley in the shin?
Damn keyboard.. kick.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
So why did Kurt Russell kicj Elvis Presley in the shin?
Damn keyboard.. kick.
Russell says that he didn’t want to do it, as Elvis was such a huge star and Russell was a fan of his. He says that finally Elvis paid him $5 to do it.
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Six degrees, overcast and mildly misty.I see you are a bit colder than us this morning poik – clear skies at your place last night?
No, snow/sleet/rainy most of the night and this morning.
I remember those days from The Old Country.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
So why did Kurt Russell kicj Elvis Presley in the shin?
Damn keyboard.. kick.
Russell says that he didn’t want to do it, as Elvis was such a huge star and Russell was a fan of his. He says that finally Elvis paid him $5 to do it.
5$ was big money in those days.
As I drove past the catholic school, this song came on. If it wasn’t so cold, I’d have opened the window and let it blast.
https://youtu.be/wagn8Wrmzuc
And you know what else is a great song? This.
https://youtu.be/8YD5yAo4HQY
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/jun/01/facebook-workers-rebel-mark-zuckerberg-donald-trump
https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2020-06-02/australias-big-birds-quiz/12227478?
7/10 here
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:Damn keyboard.. kick.
Russell says that he didn’t want to do it, as Elvis was such a huge star and Russell was a fan of his. He says that finally Elvis paid him $5 to do it.
5$ was big money in those days.
“Bert recalls Anthea Joseph remarking on his similarity to the previous week’s guest, who turned out to be Bob Dylan. I asked her how much he got paid says Bert. It was 30 bob.”
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:Damn keyboard.. kick.
Russell says that he didn’t want to do it, as Elvis was such a huge star and Russell was a fan of his. He says that finally Elvis paid him $5 to do it.
5$ was big money in those days.
My parent’s raised three kids on £5 a fortnight.
Morning punters and correctors, cold in Brissy, looks like snow in the blue mountains.
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:Russell says that he didn’t want to do it, as Elvis was such a huge star and Russell was a fan of his. He says that finally Elvis paid him $5 to do it.
5$ was big money in those days.
My parent’s raised three kids on £5 a fortnight.
Looxury.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-02/wildlife-fence-trial-underway-in-queensland-and-phillip-island/12268110
This will still have weak points because it depends upon seeing headlights coming. A lot of kangaroos are killed during the periods when people may not actually be using headlights.
If the noise is what alerts kangaroos then why not fit all cars in Australia with the kangaroo whistlers? These work quite well at certain speeds.
Hello
Cymek said:
Hello
Greetings.
What, my dog spoiled??? Yes, that’s my pillow. No, I don’t make my bed.
Divine Angel said:
What, my dog spoiled??? Yes, that’s my pillow. No, I don’t make my bed.
bet she didn’t last long.
roughbarked said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-02/wildlife-fence-trial-underway-in-queensland-and-phillip-island/12268110This will still have weak points because it depends upon seeing headlights coming. A lot of kangaroos are killed during the periods when people may not actually be using headlights.
If the noise is what alerts kangaroos then why not fit all cars in Australia with the kangaroo whistlers? These work quite well at certain speeds.
Provided the light sensors still work during the day, it’s easier to educate drivers and encourage them to use their headlights where-ever this fencing is installed.
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-02/wildlife-fence-trial-underway-in-queensland-and-phillip-island/12268110This will still have weak points because it depends upon seeing headlights coming. A lot of kangaroos are killed during the periods when people may not actually be using headlights.
If the noise is what alerts kangaroos then why not fit all cars in Australia with the kangaroo whistlers? These work quite well at certain speeds.
Provided the light sensors still work during the day, it’s easier to educate drivers and encourage them to use their headlights where-ever this fencing is installed.
Yes, insurance companies could encourage drivers to turn their lights on earlier and either keep them on all day or leave them on until the main danger of kangaroo culling is over.
Could be disinformation, dunno:
Rule 303 said:
Could be disinformation, dunno:
snopes says dunno as well:
https://www.snopes.com/news/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/27/anti-porn-filters-stop-dominic-cummings-trending-on-twitter
Strange I mentioned pulletop here and today Mrs rb texts me that she heard an interview with a Rankins Springs farmer who wanted to re-fence pulletop. He also talked about feral cats and said that the last malle fowl at Pulletop was shot by hunters in early 1980’s.
Can’t seem to search the abc site very well. Never have. It always shows me results from years before, nothing current.
Bogsnorkler said:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/27/anti-porn-filters-stop-dominic-cummings-trending-on-twitter
Once again AI demonstrates that it is only the first word of its name that is accurate.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bogsnorkler said:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/27/anti-porn-filters-stop-dominic-cummings-trending-on-twitter
Once again AI demonstrates that it is only the first word of its name that is accurate.
Succinctly put.
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bogsnorkler said:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/27/anti-porn-filters-stop-dominic-cummings-trending-on-twitter
Once again AI demonstrates that it is only the first word of its name that is accurate.
Succinctly put.
To be fair I remember the below
Though Jazz from Hell is an entirely instrumental album, there is an unconfirmed report that the Fred Meyer chain of stores sold it in their Music Market department featuring an RIAA Parental Advisory sticker. This could have been the result of Zappa’s feud with the Parents Music Resource Center (which had also inspired the 1985 album Frank Zappa Meets the Mothers of Prevention), an objection to the use of the word “hell” in the album title, or in reference to the track “G-Spot Tornado”, describing the erogenous zone in human anatomy commonly known as the G-spot.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bogsnorkler said:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/27/anti-porn-filters-stop-dominic-cummings-trending-on-twitter
Once again AI demonstrates that it is only the first word of its name that is accurate.
well damn and here we thought it was an attempt at pun on the misreading of ‘rn’ as ‘m’ videlicet https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/27/anti-pom-filters-stop-dominic-cummings-trending-on-twitter (note of course that link gets a 404, maybe it’s been filtered)
Australia should be wary of a gas-fired energy future which would be shunned by investors and could leave it struggling to find export markets, Q+A was told on Monday night.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-02/australias-gas-future-questioned-q+a-matt-canavan-paris-accord/12309504
don’t worry it’ll still create 80 jobs across Australia and remember we just saved AUD60G on people who might actually need it, that’s Good Money we can now easily spare to send to our mates in swing electorate sports clubs the gas industry
https://youtu.be/dIuSa73wj_c?t=50
“After 18 months of deliberation, Justice Stephen Rares today ruled former Agriculture Minister Joe Ludwig acted with misfeasance when the then Gillard Government introduced the ban.
In delivering his judgement, Justice Rares said the ban order was “capricious” and “unreasonable”.
The 300-strong class action started in 2014, seeking $600 million in compensation for lost income as a result of the ban.”
Rule 303 said:
Could be disinformation, dunno:
This is what Snopes says about it:
https://www.snopes.com/news/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/
Divine Angel said:
Rule 303 said:
Could be disinformation, dunno:
This is what Snopes says about it:
https://www.snopes.com/news/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/
Hasn’t changed much since 10:35 then?
snopes says dunno as well:
https://www.snopes.com/news/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/
Apparently they are going to let massage parlours open as long as they observe social distancing.
Peak Warming Man said:
Apparently they are going to let massage parlours open as long as they observe social distancing.
rubber gloves on a stick?
Peak Warming Man said:
Apparently they are going to let massage parlours open as long as they observe social distancing.
You want me to say something?
roughbarked said:
Strange I mentioned pulletop here and today Mrs rb texts me that she heard an interview with a Rankins Springs farmer who wanted to re-fence pulletop. He also talked about feral cats and said that the last malle fowl at Pulletop was shot by hunters in early 1980’s.Can’t seem to search the abc site very well. Never have. It always shows me results from years before, nothing current.
https://www.abc.net.au/radio/riverina/programs/breakfast/breakfast/12291680
2:04
Peak Warming Man said:
Apparently they are going to let massage parlours open as long as they observe social distancing.
They’re already open (well, the ones that have survived) in Vic. Yesterday.
party_pants said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Apparently they are going to let massage parlours open as long as they observe social distancing.
rubber gloves on a stick?
Kinky…
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Apparently they are going to let massage parlours open as long as they observe social distancing.
rubber gloves on a stick?
Kinky…
only if you pay extra.
Whisky soaked onions. Especially for hamburgers. Anyone tried ‘em?
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:
Strange I mentioned pulletop here and today Mrs rb texts me that she heard an interview with a Rankins Springs farmer who wanted to re-fence pulletop. He also talked about feral cats and said that the last malle fowl at Pulletop was shot by hunters in early 1980’s.Can’t seem to search the abc site very well. Never have. It always shows me results from years before, nothing current.
https://www.abc.net.au/radio/riverina/programs/breakfast/breakfast/12291680
2:04
Hahahaha. I’m just listening to it now and, on whether the Felix cat trap (the grooming trap system) will pass the ethics committee, he says:
_It’ll say, “Oh, that’s a little moggie. We won’t squirt it.” So I think it’s got the ability to recognise individual animals as well.
Yeah, well we just need it. It’s got to be out there._
He’s surely an optomist :)
Rule 303 said:
Whisky soaked onions. Especially for hamburgers. Anyone tried ‘em?
Tamb said:
Rule 303 said:
Whisky soaked onions. Especially for hamburgers. Anyone tried ‘em?
No but on Sunday I tried fried potato peel. Very crunchy & tasty.
They were very big in the states about 3 decades ago.
sarahs mum said:
Tamb said:
Rule 303 said:
Whisky soaked onions. Especially for hamburgers. Anyone tried ‘em?
No but on Sunday I tried fried potato peel. Very crunchy & tasty.They were very big in the states about 3 decades ago.
The onions or the tatoes?
sarahs mum said:
Tamb said:
Rule 303 said:
Whisky soaked onions. Especially for hamburgers. Anyone tried ‘em?
No but on Sunday I tried fried potato peel. Very crunchy & tasty.They were very big in the states about 3 decades ago.
Planes in formation from yesterday
Lunch: cold baked bean sammich.
Rule 303 said:
sarahs mum said:
Tamb said:No but on Sunday I tried fried potato peel. Very crunchy & tasty.
They were very big in the states about 3 decades ago.
The onions or the tatoes?
the potato peel. I did a few times at home because the James family were into it.
Rule 303 said:
Whisky soaked onions. Especially for hamburgers. Anyone tried ‘em?
Why? Onions do their own thing, they don’t need to be drunk.
buffy said:
Rule 303 said:
Whisky soaked onions. Especially for hamburgers. Anyone tried ‘em?
Why? Onions do their own thing, they don’t need to be drunk.
It probably denatures them like vinegar does.
buffy said:
Rule 303 said:
Whisky soaked onions. Especially for hamburgers. Anyone tried ‘em?
Why? Onions do their own thing, they don’t need to be drunk.
buffy said:
Rule 303 said:
Whisky soaked onions. Especially for hamburgers. Anyone tried ‘em?
Why? Onions do their own thing, they don’t need to be drunk.
I think the idea is they pick up flavours from the bacon fat & whisky.
Cymek said:
![]()
Planes in formation from yesterday
What sort of planes?
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:
Rule 303 said:
Whisky soaked onions. Especially for hamburgers. Anyone tried ‘em?
Why? Onions do their own thing, they don’t need to be drunk.
It probably denatures them like vinegar does.
Ingredients:
1 sliced onion 1 tbsp bacon grease 3 tsp whiskey waterTip: Don’t chop the onions, they’ll burn. Slice them into about a quarter inch. If you need to chop them later, you can.
Steps:
Jazus that westerly has a bite to it.
sarahs mum said:
Rule 303 said:
sarahs mum said:They were very big in the states about 3 decades ago.
The onions or the tatoes?
the potato peel. I did a few times at home because the James family were into it.
I like those deep fried potato spirals people sell at markets. Although I’ve actually only eaten one once. I’ve got one of these gizmos for peeling apples:

You get peeled and spiralled apple off it. I’ve often thought about trying a potato on it and then baking it. (I don’t deep fry in my kitchen)

Peak Warming Man said:
Jazus that westerly has a bite to it.
a lazy wind. too lazy to go around you so goes straight through you.
Bogsnorkler said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Jazus that westerly has a bite to it.
a lazy wind. too lazy to go around you so goes straight through you.
Aye.
Hasn’t improved much here.

Run was pleasant enough though once warmed up.
poikilotherm said:
Hasn’t improved much here.
Run was pleasant enough though once warmed up.
Run….‘ken run…..your nuts.
Peak Warming Man said:
Cymek said:
![]()
Planes in formation from yesterday
What sort of planes?
Looks like a couple of biplanes and other propeller driven planes, not jets
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:
Rule 303 said:The onions or the tatoes?
the potato peel. I did a few times at home because the James family were into it.
I like those deep fried potato spirals people sell at markets. Although I’ve actually only eaten one once. I’ve got one of these gizmos for peeling apples:
You get peeled and spiralled apple off it. I’ve often thought about trying a potato on it and then baking it. (I don’t deep fry in my kitchen)
Probably be better than hasselbacks are normally.
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:the potato peel. I did a few times at home because the James family were into it.
I like those deep fried potato spirals people sell at markets. Although I’ve actually only eaten one once. I’ve got one of these gizmos for peeling apples:
You get peeled and spiralled apple off it. I’ve often thought about trying a potato on it and then baking it. (I don’t deep fry in my kitchen)
Probably be better than hasselbacks are normally.
You are right. And now I’ve been reminded of it, I might try it tonight. Mr buffy is cooking a couple of T bones for tea. We’ve got lettuce and tomato from the garden. I might trial a couple of potatoes. Mustn’t forget the paprika sprinkle.
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:the potato peel. I did a few times at home because the James family were into it.
I like those deep fried potato spirals people sell at markets. Although I’ve actually only eaten one once. I’ve got one of these gizmos for peeling apples:
You get peeled and spiralled apple off it. I’ve often thought about trying a potato on it and then baking it. (I don’t deep fry in my kitchen)
Probably be better than hasselbacks are normally.
Never heard of hasslebacks before, I’ll have to try them.
I reckon the thing that I’ve eaten more than anything else in my lifetime is potatoes in their various forms.
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:I like those deep fried potato spirals people sell at markets. Although I’ve actually only eaten one once. I’ve got one of these gizmos for peeling apples:
You get peeled and spiralled apple off it. I’ve often thought about trying a potato on it and then baking it. (I don’t deep fry in my kitchen)
Probably be better than hasselbacks are normally.
Never heard of hasslebacks before, I’ll have to try them.
I reckon the thing that I’ve eaten more than anything else in my lifetime is potatoes in their various forms.
my kids love hassleback potatoes… but I think spirallised and done in an oven like this would be great also..
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:I like those deep fried potato spirals people sell at markets. Although I’ve actually only eaten one once. I’ve got one of these gizmos for peeling apples:
You get peeled and spiralled apple off it. I’ve often thought about trying a potato on it and then baking it. (I don’t deep fry in my kitchen)
Probably be better than hasselbacks are normally.
Never heard of hasslebacks before, I’ll have to try them.
I reckon the thing that I’ve eaten more than anything else in my lifetime is potatoes in their various forms.
I remember getting rotten potatoes from the shops but couldn’t be with bothered with the hassle of taking them back
Arts said:
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:Probably be better than hasselbacks are normally.
Never heard of hasslebacks before, I’ll have to try them.
I reckon the thing that I’ve eaten more than anything else in my lifetime is potatoes in their various forms.
my kids love hassleback potatoes… but I think spirallised and done in an oven like this would be great also..
I’ve never one of those spiral potatoes. I refuse to pay $7 for one potato.
Divine Angel said:
I’ve never one of those spiral potatoes. I refuse to pay $7 for one potato.
I don’t remember what we paid, it was quite a while ago at our local show. It would not have been that much – they’d have had no customers at all around here.
:)
buffy said:
Divine Angel said:
I’ve never one of those spiral potatoes. I refuse to pay $7 for one potato.
I don’t remember what we paid, it was quite a while ago at our local show. It would not have been that much – they’d have had no customers at all around here.
:)
Tamb said:
buffy said:
Divine Angel said:
I’ve never one of those spiral potatoes. I refuse to pay $7 for one potato.
I don’t remember what we paid, it was quite a while ago at our local show. It would not have been that much – they’d have had no customers at all around here.
:)
They are too exxy but having one to try doesn’t break the budget.
Apparently the one I et was graft and corruption – Mr buffy was given them because he was being the First Aid at the show as a volunteer.
buffy said:
Tamb said:
buffy said:I don’t remember what we paid, it was quite a while ago at our local show. It would not have been that much – they’d have had no customers at all around here.
:)
They are too exxy but having one to try doesn’t break the budget.Apparently the one I et was graft and corruption – Mr buffy was given them because he was being the First Aid at the show as a volunteer.
Ooohhh…………Graft and corruption……….
rubs hands
This poor kid is buried at Deception Bay cemetery. I was surprised to see his grave there, thought he’d be in Caboolture. But anyway. He shouldn’t be there at all.
Mr Mutant’s sister works for CPS. She wasn’t involved with his case, but could have been. She was called to a different urgent case instead of this one, on a particular day. One of those wrong-place-wrong-time situations. She felt guilt over it for a long time when Mason died.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-02/coronial-inquest-findings-mason-jet-lee-qld/12308096
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:
Strange I mentioned pulletop here and today Mrs rb texts me that she heard an interview with a Rankins Springs farmer who wanted to re-fence pulletop. He also talked about feral cats and said that the last malle fowl at Pulletop was shot by hunters in early 1980’s.Can’t seem to search the abc site very well. Never have. It always shows me results from years before, nothing current.
https://www.abc.net.au/radio/riverina/programs/breakfast/breakfast/12291680
2:04
goodo thanks. I’ve met Rod. I’ll have a chat with him.
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
Tamb said:They are too exxy but having one to try doesn’t break the budget.
Apparently the one I et was graft and corruption – Mr buffy was given them because he was being the First Aid at the show as a volunteer.
Ooohhh…………Graft and corruption……….
rubs hands
I used to do graft and corruption for the Mafia. Worked with the families from Plati, grafting trees.
roughbarked said:
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:
Strange I mentioned pulletop here and today Mrs rb texts me that she heard an interview with a Rankins Springs farmer who wanted to re-fence pulletop. He also talked about feral cats and said that the last malle fowl at Pulletop was shot by hunters in early 1980’s.Can’t seem to search the abc site very well. Never have. It always shows me results from years before, nothing current.
https://www.abc.net.au/radio/riverina/programs/breakfast/breakfast/12291680
2:04
goodo thanks. I’ve met Rod. I’ll have a chat with him.
Felix, he’s talking about the one that sprays a cat with a toxin? Ah, Felixer.
roughbarked said:
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:
Strange I mentioned pulletop here and today Mrs rb texts me that she heard an interview with a Rankins Springs farmer who wanted to re-fence pulletop. He also talked about feral cats and said that the last malle fowl at Pulletop was shot by hunters in early 1980’s.Can’t seem to search the abc site very well. Never have. It always shows me results from years before, nothing current.
https://www.abc.net.au/radio/riverina/programs/breakfast/breakfast/12291680
2:04
goodo thanks. I’ve met Rod. I’ll have a chat with him.
Excellent! I was hoping you could find some connection there, which was why I went looking :)
Divine Angel said:
This poor kid is buried at Deception Bay cemetery. I was surprised to see his grave there, thought he’d be in Caboolture. But anyway. He shouldn’t be there at all.Mr Mutant’s sister works for CPS. She wasn’t involved with his case, but could have been. She was called to a different urgent case instead of this one, on a particular day. One of those wrong-place-wrong-time situations. She felt guilt over it for a long time when Mason died.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-02/coronial-inquest-findings-mason-jet-lee-qld/12308096
:(
Lots of guilt being worn it seems.
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:
Speedy said:https://www.abc.net.au/radio/riverina/programs/breakfast/breakfast/12291680
2:04
goodo thanks. I’ve met Rod. I’ll have a chat with him.
Excellent! I was hoping you could find some connection there, which was why I went looking :)
I know everyone here by what they get in their watch.
roughbarked said:
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:goodo thanks. I’ve met Rod. I’ll have a chat with him.
Excellent! I was hoping you could find some connection there, which was why I went looking :)
I know everyone here by what they get in their watch.
What Rod will know is that I’m the best bloke arund here to talk to about regenerating mallee blocks.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
Speedy said:Excellent! I was hoping you could find some connection there, which was why I went looking :)
I know everyone here by what they get in their watch.
What Rod will know is that I’m the best bloke arund here to talk to about regenerating mallee blocks.
Keep us posted.
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:I know everyone here by what they get in their watch.
What Rod will know is that I’m the best bloke arund here to talk to about regenerating mallee blocks.
Keep us posted.
:) This sort of work is closest to my heart.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
Speedy said:https://www.abc.net.au/radio/riverina/programs/breakfast/breakfast/12291680
2:04
goodo thanks. I’ve met Rod. I’ll have a chat with him.
Felix, he’s talking about the one that sprays a cat with a toxin? Ah, Felixer.
The trap has been around for a while. Perhaps 10 years ago, when Mr Speedy had some time on his hands, I remember suggesting he contact the people on the ground to offer some volunteer hours for its design and development.
sarahs mum said:
Divine Angel said:
This poor kid is buried at Deception Bay cemetery. I was surprised to see his grave there, thought he’d be in Caboolture. But anyway. He shouldn’t be there at all.Mr Mutant’s sister works for CPS. She wasn’t involved with his case, but could have been. She was called to a different urgent case instead of this one, on a particular day. One of those wrong-place-wrong-time situations. She felt guilt over it for a long time when Mason died.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-02/coronial-inquest-findings-mason-jet-lee-qld/12308096
:(
Lots of guilt being worn it seems.
We studied this case in Children and Crime Unit (that is children who are victims of crime, not perpetrators). Our lecturer was constantly saying to not focus on the Child’s pain because that would be a downward spiral, so I didn’t, but we created a report based on the injuries and damn if my little human outline wasn’t covered in writing depicting the most heinous things I had ever written.
Arts said:
sarahs mum said:
Divine Angel said:
This poor kid is buried at Deception Bay cemetery. I was surprised to see his grave there, thought he’d be in Caboolture. But anyway. He shouldn’t be there at all.Mr Mutant’s sister works for CPS. She wasn’t involved with his case, but could have been. She was called to a different urgent case instead of this one, on a particular day. One of those wrong-place-wrong-time situations. She felt guilt over it for a long time when Mason died.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-02/coronial-inquest-findings-mason-jet-lee-qld/12308096
:(
Lots of guilt being worn it seems.
We studied this case in Children and Crime Unit (that is children who are victims of crime, not perpetrators). Our lecturer was constantly saying to not focus on the Child’s pain because that would be a downward spiral, so I didn’t, but we created a report based on the injuries and damn if my little human outline wasn’t covered in writing depicting the most heinous things I had ever written.
:(
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:goodo thanks. I’ve met Rod. I’ll have a chat with him.
Felix, he’s talking about the one that sprays a cat with a toxin? Ah, Felixer.
The trap has been around for a while. Perhaps 10 years ago, when Mr Speedy had some time on his hands, I remember suggesting he contact the people on the ground to offer some volunteer hours for its design and development.
Did he help?
roughbarked said:
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:Felix, he’s talking about the one that sprays a cat with a toxin? Ah, Felixer.
The trap has been around for a while. Perhaps 10 years ago, when Mr Speedy had some time on his hands, I remember suggesting he contact the people on the ground to offer some volunteer hours for its design and development.
Did he help?
No he didn’t. I’m sure he thinks he’ll have time to do all that stuff once he’s retired, but that’s not how it works.
Justin is saying the Coliseum in Rome is open again, thumbs up.
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:
Speedy said:The trap has been around for a while. Perhaps 10 years ago, when Mr Speedy had some time on his hands, I remember suggesting he contact the people on the ground to offer some volunteer hours for its design and development.
Did he help?
No he didn’t. I’m sure he thinks he’ll have time to do all that stuff once he’s retired, but that’s not how it works.
No. It isn’t. However, if you use your retirement to pass on the knowledge in your head, others can do the work.
I was just thinking that very thought. Before I was retired, I needed to be paid or I couldn’t afford to help. These days the Gov’t is paying for me to do nothing so it is easier to give back.
Peak Warming Man said:
Justin is saying the Coliseum in Rome is open again, thumbs up.
Plenty of room for social distancing. The gladiators kill each other before they die of the virus anyway.
Peak Warming Man said:
Justin is saying the Coliseum in Rome is open again, thumbs up.
One on one events, or the full pitched battles?
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Justin is saying the Coliseum in Rome is open again, thumbs up.
One on one events, or the full pitched battles?
My daughter lives opposite a pub here on the central coast, normally reasonably quiet. It reopened last night. Police needed to be called as drunks created mayhem in the streets later in the night.The nearby little groups of shops were having windows broken, cars vandalised, lots of yahooing.
White guys and drink, hey.
ruby said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Justin is saying the Coliseum in Rome is open again, thumbs up.
One on one events, or the full pitched battles?
My daughter lives opposite a pub here on the central coast, normally reasonably quiet. It reopened last night. Police needed to be called as drunks created mayhem in the streets later in the night.The nearby little groups of shops were having windows broken, cars vandalised, lots of yahooing.
White guys and drink, hey.
White red or pinko’s, male or female. A few grogs and all the standards fall away.
ruby said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Justin is saying the Coliseum in Rome is open again, thumbs up.
One on one events, or the full pitched battles?
My daughter lives opposite a pub here on the central coast, normally reasonably quiet. It reopened last night. Police needed to be called as drunks created mayhem in the streets later in the night.The nearby little groups of shops were having windows broken, cars vandalised, lots of yahooing.
White guys and drink, hey.
So, only white guys act up when drinking? Nice to know…
Peak Warming Man said:
Justin is saying the Coliseum in Rome is open again, thumbs up.
But the fighting is on another continent.
ruby said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Justin is saying the Coliseum in Rome is open again, thumbs up.
One on one events, or the full pitched battles?
My daughter lives opposite a pub here on the central coast, normally reasonably quiet. It reopened last night. Police needed to be called as drunks created mayhem in the streets later in the night.The nearby little groups of shops were having windows broken, cars vandalised, lots of yahooing.
White guys and drink, hey.
:(
Im not much into flag flying. what makes me feel nationalistic is that stuff we have done in the last weeks to flatten out that curve and look after people. This shit is shit.
After three extremely dry years, more than 500 cracks — some up to three metres deep — have appeared throughout the forest floor.
Hundreds of deep cracks have appeared in the Pilliga Forest in western NSW
The cracks have ruined access roads crucial for firefighting and logging
Heavy rain caused the drought-parched ground to open up
I remembered how to make the baby bonnets! This is the first one off the rank. I’ve got some more to make for my niece’s baby. She’s gone halfway in the pregnancy now.

Occupy Centrelink
4 mins ·
Scott Morrison doesnt consider us people.
SCIENCE said:
The Planet is Healing
After three extremely dry years, more than 500 cracks — some up to three metres deep — have appeared throughout the forest floor.
Hundreds of deep cracks have appeared in the Pilliga Forest in western NSW
The cracks have ruined access roads crucial for firefighting and logging
Heavy rain caused the drought-parched ground to open up
I suspect that there may be more to it than just drought and rain. We are talking here about responsible land management at a level that pays before a catastrophe raises the cost levels.
sarahs mum said:
![]()
Occupy Centrelink
4 mins ·Scott Morrison doesnt consider us people.
He doesn’t see us in his church.
buffy said:
I remembered how to make the baby bonnets! This is the first one off the rank. I’ve got some more to make for my niece’s baby. She’s gone halfway in the pregnancy now.
:) Lovely.
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:
I remembered how to make the baby bonnets! This is the first one off the rank. I’ve got some more to make for my niece’s baby. She’s gone halfway in the pregnancy now.
:) Lovely.
Nice.
roughbarked said:
ruby said:
The Rev Dodgson said:One on one events, or the full pitched battles?
My daughter lives opposite a pub here on the central coast, normally reasonably quiet. It reopened last night. Police needed to be called as drunks created mayhem in the streets later in the night.The nearby little groups of shops were having windows broken, cars vandalised, lots of yahooing.
White guys and drink, hey.
White red or pinko’s, male or female. A few grogs and all the standards fall away.
Ha!
>snorts<
Don’t worry, Roughy, we know.
ruby said:
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:
I remembered how to make the baby bonnets! This is the first one off the rank. I’ve got some more to make for my niece’s baby. She’s gone halfway in the pregnancy now.
:) Lovely.
Nice.
That is the plainest of the ones I’ve got cut out. The one I’m doing now is black and white. Spots and stripes. Unique bonnets made from my material scraps. The yellow and blue striped seersucker was a blouse I had many years ago.
Rule 303 said:
roughbarked said:
ruby said:My daughter lives opposite a pub here on the central coast, normally reasonably quiet. It reopened last night. Police needed to be called as drunks created mayhem in the streets later in the night.The nearby little groups of shops were having windows broken, cars vandalised, lots of yahooing.
White guys and drink, hey.
White red or pinko’s, male or female. A few grogs and all the standards fall away.
Ha!
>snorts<
Don’t worry, Roughy, we know.
:) I’m sure you do.
roughbarked said:
White red or pinko’s, male or female. A few grogs and all the standards fall away.
Hey, i resemble that remark!
barbara wandered in for a hello brrrr she said, wanted a feed
lady said look at your feet (how dirty they are), then headed her outside gave her some bread
sarahs mum said:
![]()
Occupy Centrelink
4 mins ·Scott Morrison doesnt consider us people.
He delegated that so he doesn’t need to take any responsibility at all.
Beeb was doing a thing on Museums last night, one in Spain or maybe Mexico (I forget) had the biggest meteorite ever discovered.
Anyway this one caught fire and burnt to the ground, they were going through the rubble and lo to their great relief they found the meteorite, still there and undamaged and that’s when PWM sat bolt upright in bed.
captain_spalding said:
:) I’m sure, to be sure.
roughbarked said:White red or pinko’s, male or female. A few grogs and all the standards fall away.
Hey, i resemble that remark!
Peak Warming Man said:
Beeb was doing a thing on Museums last night, one in Spain or maybe Mexico (I forget) had the biggest meteorite ever discovered.
Anyway this one caught fire and burnt to the ground, they were going through the rubble and lo to their great relief they found the meteorite, still there and undamaged and that’s when PWM sat bolt upright in bed.
https://www.sciencealert.com/these-are-the-6-biggest-meteorites-to-ever-to-be-found-on-earth
And another one. The white with black spots was a dress I had. I have no idea where I got black and white striped seersucker from.
I think I’ll have a break for a bit. I’ve got another sunbonnet cut out, and a couple of Winter caps (they don’t have the brim bit)
buffy said:
And another one. The white with black spots was a dress I had. I have no idea where I got black and white striped seersucker from.
I think I’ll have a break for a bit. I’ve got another sunbonnet cut out, and a couple of Winter caps (they don’t have the brim bit)
You are good at this. :)
buffy said:
And another one. The white with black spots was a dress I had. I have no idea where I got black and white striped seersucker from.
I think I’ll have a break for a bit. I’ve got another sunbonnet cut out, and a couple of Winter caps (they don’t have the brim bit)
This is interesting.
https://youtu.be/5nT-5cHQ1XE?t=1854
https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-02/melbourne-cbd-sinkhole-collins-street/12310822
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
And another one. The white with black spots was a dress I had. I have no idea where I got black and white striped seersucker from.
I think I’ll have a break for a bit. I’ve got another sunbonnet cut out, and a couple of Winter caps (they don’t have the brim bit)
This is interesting.
https://youtu.be/5nT-5cHQ1XE?t=1854
Thank you. I think…
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
And another one. The white with black spots was a dress I had. I have no idea where I got black and white striped seersucker from.
I think I’ll have a break for a bit. I’ve got another sunbonnet cut out, and a couple of Winter caps (they don’t have the brim bit)
You are good at this. :)
These are what I think of as Magic Sewing. You put all these bits and pieces together and then you turn it through and it’s suddenly all but finished. It’s very satisfying.
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
And another one. The white with black spots was a dress I had. I have no idea where I got black and white striped seersucker from.
I think I’ll have a break for a bit. I’ve got another sunbonnet cut out, and a couple of Winter caps (they don’t have the brim bit)
This is interesting.
https://youtu.be/5nT-5cHQ1XE?t=1854
thanks, I’ll bookmark that for the next time I can’t sleep.
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
And another one. The white with black spots was a dress I had. I have no idea where I got black and white striped seersucker from.
I think I’ll have a break for a bit. I’ve got another sunbonnet cut out, and a couple of Winter caps (they don’t have the brim bit)
You are good at this. :)
These are what I think of as Magic Sewing. You put all these bits and pieces together and then you turn it through and it’s suddenly all but finished. It’s very satisfying.
I can see. :)
buffy said:
And another one. The white with black spots was a dress I had. I have no idea where I got black and white striped seersucker from.
I think I’ll have a break for a bit. I’ve got another sunbonnet cut out, and a couple of Winter caps (they don’t have the brim bit)
Stunning.
:)
SCIENCE said:
The Planet is Healing
https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-02/melbourne-cbd-sinkhole-collins-street/12310822
That’s a big one.
We’ve got a person trapped between the train and the platform at Foot-as-cray.
8(
Peak Warming Man said:
Beeb was doing a thing on Museums last night, one in Spain or maybe Mexico (I forget) had the biggest meteorite ever discovered.
Anyway this one caught fire and burnt to the ground, they were going through the rubble and lo to their great relief they found the meteorite, still there and undamaged and that’s when PWM sat bolt upright in bed.
Well I wouldn’t expect a meteorite to be flammable…
“Nearly 7000 kilometres of new copper cabling was purchased in the six months to March alone (up from 42,990 kilometres in October), with the $51 billion NBN rollout due to be completed by the end of the June”
lulz.
poikilotherm said:
“Nearly 7000 kilometres of new copper cabling was purchased in the six months to March alone (up from 42,990 kilometres in October), with the $51 billion NBN rollout due to be completed by the end of the June”lulz.
Yes I was reading that and why did they buy it when it’s outdated
The first step of the experiment is:
A little bit of skin didn’t come off with the gadget, but I don’t mind roast potato skin. It was scrubbed first. And we decided to pop the “core” in to roast too.
Meanwhile, with fewer cars on the road, Qld has recorded an 8% increase in road fatalities…
Divine Angel said:
Meanwhile, with fewer cars on the road, Qld has recorded an 8% increase in road fatalities…
I would bet money that’s because of increased average travel speeds, and a higher incidence of ‘high range’ speeding. With the very low traffic volumes it’s a crime of opportunity.
buffy said:
The first step of the experiment is:
A little bit of skin didn’t come off with the gadget, but I don’t mind roast potato skin. It was scrubbed first. And we decided to pop the “core” in to roast too.
Looking forward to the result.
Divine Angel said:
Meanwhile, with fewer cars on the road, Qld has recorded an 8% increase in road fatalities…
SA hasn’t done too well either, I think.
sibeen said:
buffy said:
The first step of the experiment is:
A little bit of skin didn’t come off with the gadget, but I don’t mind roast potato skin. It was scrubbed first. And we decided to pop the “core” in to roast too.
Looking forward to the result.
what an exciting life you must lead.
yes, should be interesting.
Divine Angel said:
Meanwhile, with fewer cars on the road, Qld has recorded an 8% increase in road fatalities…
Are you sure they are road deaths, they might have died of something else.
sibeen said:
buffy said:
The first step of the experiment is:
A little bit of skin didn’t come off with the gadget, but I don’t mind roast potato skin. It was scrubbed first. And we decided to pop the “core” in to roast too.
Looking forward to the result.
First report – basting is the go. You can’t turn the thing over.
:)
Peak Warming Man said:
Divine Angel said:
Meanwhile, with fewer cars on the road, Qld has recorded an 8% increase in road fatalities…
Are you sure they are road deaths, they might have died of something else.
They all had COVID. They coughed at the wheel and hit trees.
Peak Warming Man said:
Divine Angel said:
Meanwhile, with fewer cars on the road, Qld has recorded an 8% increase in road fatalities…
Are you sure they are road deaths, they might have died of something else.
I don’t think being smug about the weather is fatal.
Rule 303 said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Divine Angel said:
Meanwhile, with fewer cars on the road, Qld has recorded an 8% increase in road fatalities…
Are you sure they are road deaths, they might have died of something else.
I don’t think being smug about the weather is fatal.
dunno but now the traffic is back to pretty much normal here we have seen the normal amount of ridiculous driving manoeuvre as well
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Beeb was doing a thing on Museums last night, one in Spain or maybe Mexico (I forget) had the biggest meteorite ever discovered.
Anyway this one caught fire and burnt to the ground, they were going through the rubble and lo to their great relief they found the meteorite, still there and undamaged and that’s when PWM sat bolt upright in bed.
Well I wouldn’t expect a meteorite to be flammable…
Except maybe some components of the Murchison Meteorite…
buffy said:
sibeen said:
buffy said:
The first step of the experiment is:
A little bit of skin didn’t come off with the gadget, but I don’t mind roast potato skin. It was scrubbed first. And we decided to pop the “core” in to roast too.
Looking forward to the result.
First report – basting is the go. You can’t turn the thing over.
:)
Should be good but extra-fattening :)
Probably going to do another quiche tonight.
The Ross sister is doing me a nice birthday lunch at her place tomorrow.
SCIENCE said:
Rule 303 said:
Peak Warming Man said:Are you sure they are road deaths, they might have died of something else.
I don’t think being smug about the weather is fatal.
dunno but now the traffic is back to pretty much normal here we have seen the normal amount of ridiculous driving manoeuvre as well
Same. Normal school peak hour chaos, normal idiots going through red lights, speeding through school zones…
Michael V said:
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Beeb was doing a thing on Museums last night, one in Spain or maybe Mexico (I forget) had the biggest meteorite ever discovered.
Anyway this one caught fire and burnt to the ground, they were going through the rubble and lo to their great relief they found the meteorite, still there and undamaged and that’s when PWM sat bolt upright in bed.
Well I wouldn’t expect a meteorite to be flammable…
Except maybe some components of the Murchison Meteorite…
don’t they burn on entry
and
carbonaceous like coal no ¿
Divine Angel said:
SCIENCE said:
Rule 303 said:I don’t think being smug about the weather is fatal.
dunno but now the traffic is back to pretty much normal here we have seen the normal amount of ridiculous driving manoeuvre as well
Same. Normal school peak hour chaos, normal idiots going through red lights, speeding through school zones…
Apparently in NSW police have been deployed to defuse school parental drop off pick up riots on the roads, due to marked increases associated with public transport avoidance.
(The public transportees could just wear masks right…)
Bubblecar said:
Probably going to do another quiche tonight.The Ross sister is doing me a nice birthday lunch at her place tomorrow.
Take your camera and show us some Ross photos.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Probably going to do another quiche tonight.The Ross sister is doing me a nice birthday lunch at her place tomorrow.
Take your camera and show us some Ross photos.
I don’t think I’ve seen Bubblecar from the front only the back of him
Divine Angel said:
Meanwhile, with fewer cars on the road, Qld has recorded an 8% increase in road fatalities…
This seems to have happened in WA, too. I wonder why?
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
sibeen said:Looking forward to the result.
First report – basting is the go. You can’t turn the thing over.
:)
Should be good but extra-fattening :)
No more fattening than normal baked potato. Exactly the same constituent parts.
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Meanwhile, with fewer cars on the road, Qld has recorded an 8% increase in road fatalities…
This seems to have happened in WA, too. I wonder why?
we had a long weekend
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
Meanwhile, with fewer cars on the road, Qld has recorded an 8% increase in road fatalities…
I would bet money that’s because of increased average travel speeds, and a higher incidence of ‘high range’ speeding. With the very low traffic volumes it’s a crime of opportunity.
Sounds reasonable.
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:First report – basting is the go. You can’t turn the thing over.
:)
Should be good but extra-fattening :)
No more fattening than normal baked potato. Exactly the same constituent parts.
but far more oil is distributed on more of the potato.. so, are they tasty?
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Meanwhile, with fewer cars on the road, Qld has recorded an 8% increase in road fatalities…
This seems to have happened in WA, too. I wonder why?
drivers here merge just not at the right time.
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:First report – basting is the go. You can’t turn the thing over.
:)
Should be good but extra-fattening :)
No more fattening than normal baked potato. Exactly the same constituent parts.
I think you would have substantially increased the fat sucking surface area.
Arts said:
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:Should be good but extra-fattening :)
No more fattening than normal baked potato. Exactly the same constituent parts.
but far more oil is distributed on more of the potato.. so, are they tasty?
Same oil amount I usually use – I don’t use a lot of oil. I don’t like paying for lots of cooking oil. I watch The Chef’s Line and someone says they are putting in a “little bit of oil” and I am almost always staggered at how much “a little bit” is for them. It’s usually at least twice or more on what I would deem necessary to stop stuff sticking. Normally the potatoes are turned several times during cooking and often they have a roughed up surface. And yes, they were good:
If anyone needs to know, I’d guess that I used less than a tsp of oil for that potato thing.
buffy said:
Arts said:
buffy said:No more fattening than normal baked potato. Exactly the same constituent parts.
but far more oil is distributed on more of the potato.. so, are they tasty?
Same oil amount I usually use – I don’t use a lot of oil. I don’t like paying for lots of cooking oil. I watch The Chef’s Line and someone says they are putting in a “little bit of oil” and I am almost always staggered at how much “a little bit” is for them. It’s usually at least twice or more on what I would deem necessary to stop stuff sticking. Normally the potatoes are turned several times during cooking and often they have a roughed up surface. And yes, they were good:
It’s a lovely presentation too.
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:
Arts said:but far more oil is distributed on more of the potato.. so, are they tasty?
Same oil amount I usually use – I don’t use a lot of oil. I don’t like paying for lots of cooking oil. I watch The Chef’s Line and someone says they are putting in a “little bit of oil” and I am almost always staggered at how much “a little bit” is for them. It’s usually at least twice or more on what I would deem necessary to stop stuff sticking. Normally the potatoes are turned several times during cooking and often they have a roughed up surface. And yes, they were good:
It’s a lovely presentation too.
It does look good, doesn’t it. I just checked the pan, there is probably still about 1/4 tsp oil sitting in the pan. I learned a long time ago to brush oil rather than pouring it. You use a lot less of it.
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Meanwhile, with fewer cars on the road, Qld has recorded an 8% increase in road fatalities…
This seems to have happened in WA, too. I wonder why?
People are stupid and still drive too fast.
buffy said:
If anyone needs to know, I’d guess that I used less than a tsp of oil for that potato thing.
Definitely past peak oil at the buffy household…
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:
If anyone needs to know, I’d guess that I used less than a tsp of oil for that potato thing.Definitely past peak oil at the buffy household…
A long time ago. In the time of the 10km fun runs.
:)
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
dv said:Well I wouldn’t expect a meteorite to be flammable…
Except maybe some components of the Murchison Meteorite…
don’t they burn on entry
and
carbonaceous like coal no ¿
LOL.
No, Definitely not like coal. But an interesting and well studied carbonaceous chondrite meteorite nonetheless.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murchison_meteorite
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Meanwhile, with fewer cars on the road, Qld has recorded an 8% increase in road fatalities…
This seems to have happened in WA, too. I wonder why?
drivers here merge just not at the right time.
Hoons will enter a motorway from a merging lane fully intent on taking right of way from vehicles in the left lane of the motorway when it is their duty to giveway.
If there is room to swing over into the right lane if things go pearshaped I’ll hold my line and call their bluff, well, until it gets to a coat of paint. I know I shouldn’t but some tribal territorial trigger goes off.
The real reason the road toll has gone up in Queensland – politicians testing their eyes.
buffy said:
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:
If anyone needs to know, I’d guess that I used less than a tsp of oil for that potato thing.Definitely past peak oil at the buffy household…
A long time ago. In the time of the 10km fun runs.
:)
Hang on…we can date this…1994. When we did GutBusters for Mr buffy when it came out. It was a fat counting thing as I recall. I learnt a lot about cakes. For instance, lamingtons are “relatively” low fat compared to a lot of other cakes.
I’m off to watch The Chefs Line and eat a T-bone steak. It’s not a low fat tea tonight.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:This seems to have happened in WA, too. I wonder why?
drivers here merge just not at the right time.
Hoons will enter a motorway from a merging lane fully intent on taking right of way from vehicles in the left lane of the motorway when it is their duty to giveway.
If there is room to swing over into the right lane if things go pearshaped I’ll hold my line and call their bluff, well, until it gets to a coat of paint. I know I shouldn’t but some tribal territorial trigger goes off.
depends on the dividing line. broken and in front car has right of way. solid they don’t.
Bogsnorkler said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bogsnorkler said:drivers here merge just not at the right time.
Hoons will enter a motorway from a merging lane fully intent on taking right of way from vehicles in the left lane of the motorway when it is their duty to giveway.
If there is room to swing over into the right lane if things go pearshaped I’ll hold my line and call their bluff, well, until it gets to a coat of paint. I know I shouldn’t but some tribal territorial trigger goes off.
depends on the dividing line. broken and in front car has right of way. solid they don’t.

It’s going to be a cold night in SEQ make no mistake.
Bogsnorkler said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bogsnorkler said:drivers here merge just not at the right time.
Hoons will enter a motorway from a merging lane fully intent on taking right of way from vehicles in the left lane of the motorway when it is their duty to giveway.
If there is room to swing over into the right lane if things go pearshaped I’ll hold my line and call their bluff, well, until it gets to a coat of paint. I know I shouldn’t but some tribal territorial trigger goes off.
depends on the dividing line. broken and in front car has right of way. solid they don’t.
I’m a motorcyclist. Everything has right of way.
Peak Warming Man said:
It’s going to be a cold night in SEQ make no mistake.
Ive turned the heater on and I’m not even in Queensland.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Peak Warming Man said:
It’s going to be a cold night in SEQ make no mistake.
Ive turned the heater on and I’m not even in Queensland.
A what?
Peak Warming Man said:
It’s going to be a cold night in SEQ make no mistake.
It’s already cold here. It’s below twenty. (19.8°C)
Peak Warming Man said:
It’s going to be a cold night in SEQ make no mistake.
I just put the bins out and almost froze my tits off.
Peak Warming Man said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Peak Warming Man said:
It’s going to be a cold night in SEQ make no mistake.
Ive turned the heater on and I’m not even in Queensland.
A what?
The coldness sneaked in while no one has watching.
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
It’s going to be a cold night in SEQ make no mistake.
It’s already cold here. It’s below twenty. (19.8°C)
19.9 in the lounge room, 16 outside, “feels like” 12.
Bogsnorkler said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bogsnorkler said:drivers here merge just not at the right time.
Hoons will enter a motorway from a merging lane fully intent on taking right of way from vehicles in the left lane of the motorway when it is their duty to giveway.
If there is room to swing over into the right lane if things go pearshaped I’ll hold my line and call their bluff, well, until it gets to a coat of paint. I know I shouldn’t but some tribal territorial trigger goes off.
depends on the dividing line. broken and in front car has right of way. solid they don’t.
In NSW, the vehicle whose lane is ending must give way unless there is no dividing line at all. When there is no dividing line, the vehicle that has any part of it in front of the other has right of way.
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Peak Warming Man said:Hoons will enter a motorway from a merging lane fully intent on taking right of way from vehicles in the left lane of the motorway when it is their duty to giveway.
If there is room to swing over into the right lane if things go pearshaped I’ll hold my line and call their bluff, well, until it gets to a coat of paint. I know I shouldn’t but some tribal territorial trigger goes off.
depends on the dividing line. broken and in front car has right of way. solid they don’t.
I’m a motorcyclist. Everything has right of way.
:)
Divine Angel said:
Peak Warming Man said:
It’s going to be a cold night in SEQ make no mistake.
I just put the bins out and almost froze my tits off.
Bummer.
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
It’s going to be a cold night in SEQ make no mistake.
It’s already cold here. It’s below twenty. (19.8°C)
19.9 in the lounge room, 16 outside, “feels like” 12.
cute

sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:depends on the dividing line. broken and in front car has right of way. solid they don’t.
I’m a motorcyclist. Everything has right of way.
:)
Including those hundreds of joggers who are slowing everyone else down.
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
It’s going to be a cold night in SEQ make no mistake.
It’s already cold here. It’s below twenty. (19.8°C)
19.9 in the lounge room, 16 outside, “feels like” 12.
My measurement was in the study, with the window closed. I’ll try the instrument outside. Back soon.
poikilotherm said:
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:It’s already cold here. It’s below twenty. (19.8°C)
19.9 in the lounge room, 16 outside, “feels like” 12.
cute
So it’s warmed up quite a bit since you went for a run.
Peak Warming Man said:
poikilotherm said:
Divine Angel said:19.9 in the lounge room, 16 outside, “feels like” 12.
cute
So it’s warmed up quite a bit since you went for a run.
I know, I should have waited until now, wouldn’t have needed gloves.
poikilotherm said:
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:It’s already cold here. It’s below twenty. (19.8°C)
19.9 in the lounge room, 16 outside, “feels like” 12.
cute
Screw that.
I remember my dad’s house in Blayney, the shampoo would freeze overnight.
It’s 10 or 11 outside. Bom says 5 overnight. It’s lovely here by the fire.
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:It’s already cold here. It’s below twenty. (19.8°C)
19.9 in the lounge room, 16 outside, “feels like” 12.
My measurement was in the study, with the window closed. I’ll try the instrument outside. Back soon.
paces up and down
Divine Angel said:
poikilotherm said:
Divine Angel said:19.9 in the lounge room, 16 outside, “feels like” 12.
cute
Screw that.
I remember my dad’s house in Blayney, the shampoo would freeze overnight.
Crikey.
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:19.9 in the lounge room, 16 outside, “feels like” 12.
My measurement was in the study, with the window closed. I’ll try the instrument outside. Back soon.
paces up and down
Yeah, it is a bit like that time in the Antarctic when the bloke went for a walk and said he might be a while. Still hasn’t come back…
furious said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:My measurement was in the study, with the window closed. I’ll try the instrument outside. Back soon.
paces up and down
Yeah, it is a bit like that time in the Antarctic when the bloke went for a walk and said he might be a while. Still hasn’t come back…
Was beaten to death with a frozen husky
poikilotherm said:
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:It’s already cold here. It’s below twenty. (19.8°C)
19.9 in the lounge room, 16 outside, “feels like” 12.
cute
Was there much snow on Canobolas?
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:It’s already cold here. It’s below twenty. (19.8°C)
19.9 in the lounge room, 16 outside, “feels like” 12.
My measurement was in the study, with the window closed. I’ll try the instrument outside. Back soon.
Went down to 17.0 outside, but I couldn’t be bothered waiting any longer for the instrument to equilibrate.
Sea water wasn’t cold this afternoon though.
There is a COVID government ad that is annoying me every time I see it. Blah, blah, blah etc…“and if you’re feeling unwell, stay home, and get tested”. Well, logically, I could do one, or the other. But to get tested I have to go out. (For me that would be a 30km drive and then back again) I think the wording needs to be adjusted.
Michael V said:
poikilotherm said:
Divine Angel said:19.9 in the lounge room, 16 outside, “feels like” 12.
cute
Was there much snow on Canobolas?
buffy said:
buffy said:
poikilotherm said:Definitely past peak oil at the buffy household…
A long time ago. In the time of the 10km fun runs.
:)
Hang on…we can date this…1994. When we did GutBusters for Mr buffy when it came out. It was a fat counting thing as I recall. I learnt a lot about cakes. For instance, lamingtons are “relatively” low fat compared to a lot of other cakes.
Mmmm.. Stanton tried to shoe-horn her little ‘Fat & Fibre’ guide into it, but the main thrust of it was some basic education and a particular focus on the combination of high-fat foods and alcohol, which was culturally important at the time.
Rule 303 said:
buffy said:
buffy said:A long time ago. In the time of the 10km fun runs.
:)
Hang on…we can date this…1994. When we did GutBusters for Mr buffy when it came out. It was a fat counting thing as I recall. I learnt a lot about cakes. For instance, lamingtons are “relatively” low fat compared to a lot of other cakes.
Mmmm.. Stanton tried to shoe-horn her little ‘Fat & Fibre’ guide into it, but the main thrust of it was some basic education and a particular focus on the combination of high-fat foods and alcohol, which was culturally important at the time.
Not forgetting the tapes for listening to.
I’ve gone full bubblecar for dinner – spinach and ricotta gnocchi with goats curd, zucchini , peas, tomato and herbs .
poikilotherm said:
I’ve gone full bubblecar for dinner – spinach and ricotta gnocchi with goats curd, zucchini , peas, tomato and herbs .
Nice!
Chinese pork dumplings here, with special fried rice (egg, garlic prawns, pulled chicken, beans, broccoli, oyster suace).
poikilotherm said:
Michael V said:
poikilotherm said:cute
Was there much snow on Canobolas?
Don’t think so, I didn’t drive up today to look. Lots of rain interspersed with snow so it doesn’t settle
Ah. Cold but not so pretty.
poikilotherm said:
I’ve gone full bubblecar for dinner – spinach and ricotta gnocchi with goats curd, zucchini , peas, tomato and herbs .
But you need a whole bison, too.
Michael V said:
poikilotherm said:
Michael V said:Was there much snow on Canobolas?
Don’t think so, I didn’t drive up today to look. Lots of rain interspersed with snow so it doesn’t settleAh. Cold but not so pretty.
Yea, just bleak as all folk today.
Quiche now ovened. This time it’s just leek, bacon, a scattering of capers, four eggs, splash of milk, salt, pepper, nutmeg and a tiny bit of smoked paprika.
Rule 303 said:
poikilotherm said:
I’ve gone full bubblecar for dinner – spinach and ricotta gnocchi with goats curd, zucchini , peas, tomato and herbs .
Nice!
Chinese pork dumplings here, with special fried rice (egg, garlic prawns, pulled chicken, beans, broccoli, oyster suace).
Made 36 skippy wontons today. Kangaroo mince, fennel, celery, shallot greens, ginger, light soy and lard. The lard was added to make the meat sticky, as the (obviously very lean) kangaroo mince wouldn’t hold the vegetables. Sensational, even if I do say so myself.
There are only 22 wontons left, as the first two are always sacrificed as taste-testers, and Mrs V then insisted on wontons for lunch.
poikilotherm said:
I’ve gone full bubblecar for dinner – spinach and ricotta gnocchi with goats curd, zucchini , peas, tomato and herbs .
Sounds good.
the youngest bandicoot is getting brave. comes up to me when i’m eating outside looking for crumbs. gets a couple then bites my toes for more. will eat out of my hand now.
Bogsnorkler said:
the youngest bandicoot is getting brave. comes up to me when i’m eating outside looking for crumbs. gets a couple then bites my toes for more. will eat out of my hand now.
They fun to have a round, till they get too friendly.
Once at my sisters place we were sitting outside eating pizza, they must have loved the smell of it because they came out of the bush and joined us. One of them started sniffing and scratching up peoples legs like a small dog.
Cant talk.
Cobbett makes dog gestures toward the pack of schmackos.
You bring me a ball and I’ll give you a schmacko.
Brings me duck. Pushes it against my leg.
I said ball.
Takes duck away and prances around the living room with it and pushes it on me again.
I SAID BALL.
Takes duck away and prances around the living room with it and pushes it on me again.
I SAID BALL.
Leaves duck and searches and finds ball and nudges me with it.
Two schmackos.
I wish it was on video.
Peak Warming Man said:
Cant talk.
I would have ended this sort of thing weeks ago.
Take control of the borders
No more just walking in
Expelling various criminals by the hundreds of thousands.
Peak Warming Man said:
Cant talk.
Hypocritical and sanctimonious talk, typically of a moral, religious, or political nature.
Language peculiar to a specified group or profession and regarded with disparagement.
Cause (something) to be in a slanting or oblique position; tilt.
genius is doing the end of month accounts, which included a few previous months as well
joy
Peak Warming Man said:
Cant talk.
Understood. Just clack your teeth together in Morse code.
Peak Warming Man said:
Cant talk.
“A cant is the jargon or language of a group, often employed to exclude or mislead people outside the group”
None of that here…
couple panadol for this head, plug some music in
sarahs mum said:
Cobbett makes dog gestures toward the pack of schmackos.
You bring me a ball and I’ll give you a schmacko.
Brings me duck. Pushes it against my leg.
I said ball.
Takes duck away and prances around the living room with it and pushes it on me again.
I SAID BALL.
Takes duck away and prances around the living room with it and pushes it on me again.
I SAID BALL.
Leaves duck and searches and finds ball and nudges me with it.
Two schmackos.I wish it was on video.
:)
furious said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Cant talk.
“A cant is the jargon or language of a group, often employed to exclude or mislead people outside the group”
None of that here…
cant. recant. cantor. descant. canticle.
The phylum of animals with the most species is Arthropoda.
The phylum of animals with the most individuals is Nematoda. There are something in the vicinity of 1000000000000000000000 nematodes, ie 1 × 10 21, on sextillion … a thousand billion billion.
A lot.
dv said:
The phylum of animals with the most species is Arthropoda.The phylum of animals with the most individuals is Nematoda. There are something in the vicinity of 1000000000000000000000 nematodes, ie 1 × 10 21, on sextillion … a thousand billion billion.
A lot.
So who counted all them nematodes?
Flooded church in the ghost town of Rodney, Mississippi.
dv said:
The phylum of animals with the most species is Arthropoda.The phylum of animals with the most individuals is Nematoda. There are something in the vicinity of 1000000000000000000000 nematodes, ie 1 × 10 21, on sextillion … a thousand billion billion.
A lot.
We live on a planet of worms.
poikilotherm said:
dv said:
The phylum of animals with the most species is Arthropoda.The phylum of animals with the most individuals is Nematoda. There are something in the vicinity of 1000000000000000000000 nematodes, ie 1 × 10 21, on sextillion … a thousand billion billion.
A lot.
So who counted all them nematodes?
No one counted them all, but they did take random samples in various environments.
dv said:
The phylum of animals with the most species is Arthropoda.The phylum of animals with the most individuals is Nematoda. There are something in the vicinity of 1000000000000000000000 nematodes, ie 1 × 10 21, on sextillion … a thousand billion billion.
A lot.
I’m not sure I should trust someone who confuses subscript and superscript.
wanders off
sibeen said:
dv said:
The phylum of animals with the most species is Arthropoda.The phylum of animals with the most individuals is Nematoda. There are something in the vicinity of 1000000000000000000000 nematodes, ie 1 × 10 21, on sextillion … a thousand billion billion.
A lot.
I’m not sure I should trust someone who confuses subscript and superscript.
wanders off
Stupid Textile
dv said:
sibeen said:
dv said:
The phylum of animals with the most species is Arthropoda.The phylum of animals with the most individuals is Nematoda. There are something in the vicinity of 1000000000000000000000 nematodes, ie 1 × 10 21, on sextillion … a thousand billion billion.
A lot.
I’m not sure I should trust someone who confuses subscript and superscript.
wanders off
Stupid Textile
the link was broken too
Looking through abandoned house interiors while listening to atmospheric music by Elliott Carter.

Bubblecar said:
Looking through abandoned house interiors while listening to atmospheric music by Elliott Carter.
A few pieces of furniture there that would be quickly snapped up.
IHey, know one of the couples competing in the current season of House Rules on the telly. So I have watched some of it.
Watching the episode tonight…
A bunch of fuck-faced middle class arseholes so privileged they can afford to take 6 months or whatever off work competing in a crappy reality TV series for a $100k prize whilst building a shitty house out of two rusty-arsed sea containers in some other fuckwits back yard for some poor sod who will be “rewarded”, with a paltry $10k and an amateurishly decorated tin box, for his participation in the horrid display of excessively bullshity televised crapholla, whilst everyone else involved nods solemnly and sheds a tear or two on camera whilst congratulating themselves on how fucking great they are for “thinking” of the poor unfortunate souls who will get to live in this shithole they are creating; all played out in front of an online and television audience who are judging the personalities of dickheads they’ve never met and never will as if they are personal friends all whilst network executives jerk themselves off to ratings numbers and advertising dollars whilst three affectatiously-cunt-faced twats dream of their stardom and wander around issuing scores based on how material they think a particular style of wallpaper is to a persons quality of life.
Pretty good show, so far. What do you guys think?
esselte said:
IHey, know one of the couples competing in the current season of House Rules on the telly. So I have watched some of it.
Watching the episode tonight…
A bunch of fuck-faced middle class arseholes so privileged they can afford to take 6 months or whatever off work competing in a crappy reality TV series for a $100k prize whilst building a shitty house out of two rusty-arsed sea containers in some other fuckwits back yard for some poor sod who will be “rewarded”, with a paltry $10k and an amateurishly decorated tin box, for his participation in the horrid display of excessively bullshity televised crapholla, whilst everyone else involved nods solemnly and sheds a tear or two on camera whilst congratulating themselves on how fucking great they are for “thinking” of the poor unfortunate souls who will get to live in this shithole they are creating; all played out in front of an online and television audience who are judging the personalities of dickheads they’ve never met and never will as if they are personal friends all whilst network executives jerk themselves off to ratings numbers and advertising dollars whilst three affectatiously-cunt-faced twats dream of their stardom and wander around issuing scores based on how material they think a particular style of wallpaper is to a persons quality of life.
Pretty good show, so far. What do you guys think?
which couple do you know? Not that I have remembered these people names…

esselte said:
IHey, know one of the couples competing in the current season of House Rules on the telly. So I have watched some of it.
Watching the episode tonight…
A bunch of fuck-faced middle class arseholes so privileged they can afford to take 6 months or whatever off work competing in a crappy reality TV series for a $100k prize whilst building a shitty house out of two rusty-arsed sea containers in some other fuckwits back yard for some poor sod who will be “rewarded”, with a paltry $10k and an amateurishly decorated tin box, for his participation in the horrid display of excessively bullshity televised crapholla, whilst everyone else involved nods solemnly and sheds a tear or two on camera whilst congratulating themselves on how fucking great they are for “thinking” of the poor unfortunate souls who will get to live in this shithole they are creating; all played out in front of an online and television audience who are judging the personalities of dickheads they’ve never met and never will as if they are personal friends all whilst network executives jerk themselves off to ratings numbers and advertising dollars whilst three affectatiously-cunt-faced twats dream of their stardom and wander around issuing scores based on how material they think a particular style of wallpaper is to a persons quality of life.
Pretty good show, so far. What do you guys think?
Sounds good.
sarahs mum said:
esselte said:IHey, know one of the couples competing in the current season of House Rules on the telly. So I have watched some of it.
Watching the episode tonight…
A bunch of fuck-faced middle class arseholes so privileged they can afford to take 6 months or whatever off work competing in a crappy reality TV series for a $100k prize whilst building a shitty house out of two rusty-arsed sea containers in some other fuckwits back yard for some poor sod who will be “rewarded”, with a paltry $10k and an amateurishly decorated tin box, for his participation in the horrid display of excessively bullshity televised crapholla, whilst everyone else involved nods solemnly and sheds a tear or two on camera whilst congratulating themselves on how fucking great they are for “thinking” of the poor unfortunate souls who will get to live in this shithole they are creating; all played out in front of an online and television audience who are judging the personalities of dickheads they’ve never met and never will as if they are personal friends all whilst network executives jerk themselves off to ratings numbers and advertising dollars whilst three affectatiously-cunt-faced twats dream of their stardom and wander around issuing scores based on how material they think a particular style of wallpaper is to a persons quality of life.
Pretty good show, so far. What do you guys think?
which couple do you know? Not that I have remembered these people names…
Dave and Tanya from WA. Actually more a case of my parents are friends with Tanya’s parents, Eddie and Rosemary.
esselte said:
IHey, know one of the couples competing in the current season of House Rules on the telly. So I have watched some of it.
Watching the episode tonight…
A bunch of fuck-faced middle class arseholes so privileged they can afford to take 6 months or whatever off work competing in a crappy reality TV series for a $100k prize whilst building a shitty house out of two rusty-arsed sea containers in some other fuckwits back yard for some poor sod who will be “rewarded”, with a paltry $10k and an amateurishly decorated tin box, for his participation in the horrid display of excessively bullshity televised crapholla, whilst everyone else involved nods solemnly and sheds a tear or two on camera whilst congratulating themselves on how fucking great they are for “thinking” of the poor unfortunate souls who will get to live in this shithole they are creating; all played out in front of an online and television audience who are judging the personalities of dickheads they’ve never met and never will as if they are personal friends all whilst network executives jerk themselves off to ratings numbers and advertising dollars whilst three affectatiously-cunt-faced twats dream of their stardom and wander around issuing scores based on how material they think a particular style of wallpaper is to a persons quality of life.
Pretty good show, so far. What do you guys think?
I have completely gone off the idea of converting shipping containers in housing. They are the least well designed things possible to use as a starting point. They are generally too small to start with. Being an uninsulated metal box means a great effort has to be made into insulating them. Having corrugated metals sides means building frames for the insulation. The corrugated metal sides are what gives it it strength and structural integrity, so any holes cut for windows and doors need to be braced and reinforced. You end up with a cramped dog-box that is just that bit too small to be a comfortable home. For all the materials and effort that go into the design and construction of the frames you might as well just build a small and simple house.
The real problem with housing is the cost of land anyway, not the house.
party_pants said:
esselte said:IHey, know one of the couples competing in the current season of House Rules on the telly. So I have watched some of it.
Watching the episode tonight…
A bunch of fuck-faced middle class arseholes so privileged they can afford to take 6 months or whatever off work competing in a crappy reality TV series for a $100k prize whilst building a shitty house out of two rusty-arsed sea containers in some other fuckwits back yard for some poor sod who will be “rewarded”, with a paltry $10k and an amateurishly decorated tin box, for his participation in the horrid display of excessively bullshity televised crapholla, whilst everyone else involved nods solemnly and sheds a tear or two on camera whilst congratulating themselves on how fucking great they are for “thinking” of the poor unfortunate souls who will get to live in this shithole they are creating; all played out in front of an online and television audience who are judging the personalities of dickheads they’ve never met and never will as if they are personal friends all whilst network executives jerk themselves off to ratings numbers and advertising dollars whilst three affectatiously-cunt-faced twats dream of their stardom and wander around issuing scores based on how material they think a particular style of wallpaper is to a persons quality of life.
Pretty good show, so far. What do you guys think?
I have completely gone off the idea of converting shipping containers in housing. They are the least well designed things possible to use as a starting point. They are generally too small to start with. Being an uninsulated metal box means a great effort has to be made into insulating them. Having corrugated metals sides means building frames for the insulation. The corrugated metal sides are what gives it it strength and structural integrity, so any holes cut for windows and doors need to be braced and reinforced. You end up with a cramped dog-box that is just that bit too small to be a comfortable home. For all the materials and effort that go into the design and construction of the frames you might as well just build a small and simple house.
The real problem with housing is the cost of land anyway, not the house.
oh c’m‘on at least you’re safe from lightning strikes
party_pants said:
esselte said:IHey, know one of the couples competing in the current season of House Rules on the telly. So I have watched some of it.
Watching the episode tonight…
A bunch of fuck-faced middle class arseholes so privileged they can afford to take 6 months or whatever off work competing in a crappy reality TV series for a $100k prize whilst building a shitty house out of two rusty-arsed sea containers in some other fuckwits back yard for some poor sod who will be “rewarded”, with a paltry $10k and an amateurishly decorated tin box, for his participation in the horrid display of excessively bullshity televised crapholla, whilst everyone else involved nods solemnly and sheds a tear or two on camera whilst congratulating themselves on how fucking great they are for “thinking” of the poor unfortunate souls who will get to live in this shithole they are creating; all played out in front of an online and television audience who are judging the personalities of dickheads they’ve never met and never will as if they are personal friends all whilst network executives jerk themselves off to ratings numbers and advertising dollars whilst three affectatiously-cunt-faced twats dream of their stardom and wander around issuing scores based on how material they think a particular style of wallpaper is to a persons quality of life.
Pretty good show, so far. What do you guys think?
I have completely gone off the idea of converting shipping containers in housing. They are the least well designed things possible to use as a starting point. They are generally too small to start with. Being an uninsulated metal box means a great effort has to be made into insulating them. Having corrugated metals sides means building frames for the insulation. The corrugated metal sides are what gives it it strength and structural integrity, so any holes cut for windows and doors need to be braced and reinforced. You end up with a cramped dog-box that is just that bit too small to be a comfortable home. For all the materials and effort that go into the design and construction of the frames you might as well just build a small and simple house.
The real problem with housing is the cost of land anyway, not the house.
go demountable …

Bogsnorkler said:
party_pants said:
esselte said:IHey, know one of the couples competing in the current season of House Rules on the telly. So I have watched some of it.
Watching the episode tonight…
A bunch of fuck-faced middle class arseholes so privileged they can afford to take 6 months or whatever off work competing in a crappy reality TV series for a $100k prize whilst building a shitty house out of two rusty-arsed sea containers in some other fuckwits back yard for some poor sod who will be “rewarded”, with a paltry $10k and an amateurishly decorated tin box, for his participation in the horrid display of excessively bullshity televised crapholla, whilst everyone else involved nods solemnly and sheds a tear or two on camera whilst congratulating themselves on how fucking great they are for “thinking” of the poor unfortunate souls who will get to live in this shithole they are creating; all played out in front of an online and television audience who are judging the personalities of dickheads they’ve never met and never will as if they are personal friends all whilst network executives jerk themselves off to ratings numbers and advertising dollars whilst three affectatiously-cunt-faced twats dream of their stardom and wander around issuing scores based on how material they think a particular style of wallpaper is to a persons quality of life.
Pretty good show, so far. What do you guys think?
I have completely gone off the idea of converting shipping containers in housing. They are the least well designed things possible to use as a starting point. They are generally too small to start with. Being an uninsulated metal box means a great effort has to be made into insulating them. Having corrugated metals sides means building frames for the insulation. The corrugated metal sides are what gives it it strength and structural integrity, so any holes cut for windows and doors need to be braced and reinforced. You end up with a cramped dog-box that is just that bit too small to be a comfortable home. For all the materials and effort that go into the design and construction of the frames you might as well just build a small and simple house.
The real problem with housing is the cost of land anyway, not the house.
go demountable …
Yes. I think that would be the solution to the “housing crisis”.
Lease the land, own the house – notwithstanding the problems you had with the railway authorities.
Come up with a system of standardised housing pads/foundations of certain sizes, with a standardised system of fixing and utilities connections. Also include the orientation of the house platform into the standard. Let the designers get to work and build energy-efficient, well insulated, modern, passive solar houses that can be built in 3 or 4 segments in a factory and craned into place on site.
party_pants said:
Bogsnorkler said:
party_pants said:I have completely gone off the idea of converting shipping containers in housing. They are the least well designed things possible to use as a starting point. They are generally too small to start with. Being an uninsulated metal box means a great effort has to be made into insulating them. Having corrugated metals sides means building frames for the insulation. The corrugated metal sides are what gives it it strength and structural integrity, so any holes cut for windows and doors need to be braced and reinforced. You end up with a cramped dog-box that is just that bit too small to be a comfortable home. For all the materials and effort that go into the design and construction of the frames you might as well just build a small and simple house.
The real problem with housing is the cost of land anyway, not the house.
go demountable …
Yes. I think that would be the solution to the “housing crisis”.
Lease the land, own the house – notwithstanding the problems you had with the railway authorities.
Come up with a system of standardised housing pads/foundations of certain sizes, with a standardised system of fixing and utilities connections. Also include the orientation of the house platform into the standard. Let the designers get to work and build energy-efficient, well insulated, modern, passive solar houses that can be built in 3 or 4 segments in a factory and craned into place on site.
when you look at some parts of england on google earth you can see “villages” that look just like that.
Bogsnorkler said:
party_pants said:
Bogsnorkler said:go demountable …
Yes. I think that would be the solution to the “housing crisis”.
Lease the land, own the house – notwithstanding the problems you had with the railway authorities.
Come up with a system of standardised housing pads/foundations of certain sizes, with a standardised system of fixing and utilities connections. Also include the orientation of the house platform into the standard. Let the designers get to work and build energy-efficient, well insulated, modern, passive solar houses that can be built in 3 or 4 segments in a factory and craned into place on site.
when you look at some parts of england on google earth you can see “villages” that look just like that.
I’ve been looking at the wrong bits then. I see lots of that dreadful terraced housing, single long roof with common walls. Can’t tear down and rebuild any single house on the street. Yuck. Most of them are probably pre-electricity too. Many of them are pre-car and wheelie bin too. No parking or car-ports, and nowhere to stick the bins.
party_pants said:
Bogsnorkler said:
party_pants said:Yes. I think that would be the solution to the “housing crisis”.
Lease the land, own the house – notwithstanding the problems you had with the railway authorities.
Come up with a system of standardised housing pads/foundations of certain sizes, with a standardised system of fixing and utilities connections. Also include the orientation of the house platform into the standard. Let the designers get to work and build energy-efficient, well insulated, modern, passive solar houses that can be built in 3 or 4 segments in a factory and craned into place on site.
when you look at some parts of england on google earth you can see “villages” that look just like that.
I’ve been looking at the wrong bits then. I see lots of that dreadful terraced housing, single long roof with common walls. Can’t tear down and rebuild any single house on the street. Yuck. Most of them are probably pre-electricity too. Many of them are pre-car and wheelie bin too. No parking or car-ports, and nowhere to stick the bins.
I think a lot are holiday homes so not full time living. they look pretty awful. but the idea is there and with better planning and house design could work.
Seawick has one. By the sea.
Bogsnorkler said:
party_pants said:
Bogsnorkler said:when you look at some parts of england on google earth you can see “villages” that look just like that.
I’ve been looking at the wrong bits then. I see lots of that dreadful terraced housing, single long roof with common walls. Can’t tear down and rebuild any single house on the street. Yuck. Most of them are probably pre-electricity too. Many of them are pre-car and wheelie bin too. No parking or car-ports, and nowhere to stick the bins.
I think a lot are holiday homes so not full time living. they look pretty awful. but the idea is there and with better planning and house design could work.
Seawick has one. By the sea.
Yes. You have to be very careful in the way you write up the design requirements. You want something that is more energy-efficient and practical than a traditional brick & tile home, and far superior to some sort of cheap kit home. There are some on the market but for now they seem to be just about as expensive as a traditional home because they are all bespoke and one-offs and there are no economies of scale in their mass production.
party_pants said:
Bogsnorkler said:
party_pants said:I’ve been looking at the wrong bits then. I see lots of that dreadful terraced housing, single long roof with common walls. Can’t tear down and rebuild any single house on the street. Yuck. Most of them are probably pre-electricity too. Many of them are pre-car and wheelie bin too. No parking or car-ports, and nowhere to stick the bins.
I think a lot are holiday homes so not full time living. they look pretty awful. but the idea is there and with better planning and house design could work.
Seawick has one. By the sea.
Yes. You have to be very careful in the way you write up the design requirements. You want something that is more energy-efficient and practical than a traditional brick & tile home, and far superior to some sort of cheap kit home. There are some on the market but for now they seem to be just about as expensive as a traditional home because they are all bespoke and one-offs and there are no economies of scale in their mass production.
the tiny house fad.
Bogsnorkler said:
party_pants said:
Bogsnorkler said:I think a lot are holiday homes so not full time living. they look pretty awful. but the idea is there and with better planning and house design could work.
Seawick has one. By the sea.
Yes. You have to be very careful in the way you write up the design requirements. You want something that is more energy-efficient and practical than a traditional brick & tile home, and far superior to some sort of cheap kit home. There are some on the market but for now they seem to be just about as expensive as a traditional home because they are all bespoke and one-offs and there are no economies of scale in their mass production.
the tiny house fad.
Yes and no. Tiny houses could be part of it for some people. But most would want something a bit bigger. I think you need to be a special type of person to do living in a tiny houses. It would drive me nuts having multi-purpose spaces that need to be cleaned up every time you want to switch from one use to another. Probably just a niche market.
… and no off-grid self-sufficient stuff either. Connections to mains for utilities.
party_pants said:
… and no off-grid self-sufficient stuff either. Connections to mains for utilities.
kinda like those floating houses in the netherlands or somewhere around there.

Bogsnorkler said:
party_pants said:
… and no off-grid self-sufficient stuff either. Connections to mains for utilities.
kinda like those floating houses in the netherlands or somewhere around there.
They are a bit flash :)
Tiny homes might work better in a landscaped park type environment rather than a suburban setting. Sort of like a glorified caravan park. Small sites for lease, fully serviced, but set in a bit of nice surroundings.
party_pants said:
Tiny homes might work better in a landscaped park type environment rather than a suburban setting. Sort of like a glorified caravan park. Small sites for lease, fully serviced, but set in a bit of nice surroundings.
a mixture of different concepts to suit different family make-ups. might even have shared accomodation for students and the like.

Fern Lea Hut, built by the “Booberoo Boys” around 1905. You can see the name worked in rustic style at the top. Glass negative from the Grist collection, unattributed.
www.mtwellingtonhistory.com

Grass Tree Hut, built 1891. This was the first of the recreational huts to be decorated in the rustic style, and the hut members were called on by the Hobart City Council to help in the beautification of Fern Tree Bower. Cropped half of stereoscopic glass negative from the Grist collection, unattributed. I will post the full stereoscopic version in the comments.

Sam Parlour (aka Parlow, Parley) was a charcoal-burner who lived above the Waterworks. This is his house and shed complex. Glass negative from the Grist collection, unattributed.

The Waratah Hut was another of the ornate recreational huts built on the Mountain between 1880 and 1920. The essential fashion at this hut for gentlemen, as shown in several photos, was bowler hats. Glass negative from the Grist collection, unattributed. Date probably c. 1900.

The Wellington Hut was another of the ornate recreational huts built on the Mountain between 1880 and 1920. The lady at left is not floating, as it seems, but standing on a cut tree stump. Glass negative from the Grist collection, unattributed. Date probably c. 1900.

Lone Cabin. This hut was lived in for many years by honorary Ranger Dan Griffiths, who was a friend of birds and animals, and assisted the Council in looking after the reserve. This photo shows the hut soon after its construction in 1911. Danny Griffiths claimed to own an axe left by Captain Cook at Adventure Bay, and it is quite possible the axe shown resting on the chimney is the same one. It was eventually stolen despite Danny’s precautions, and to his great sorrow. Glass lantern slide from the Grist collection, unattributed.

Clement Wragge’s meteorological observatory, which was built at the Pinnacle in 1895, but only survived until 1909, when it was destroyed by fire. There was no road yet, and all of the materials had to be carried up by hand. For the meteorologists spending nights at this station, it must have been a real challenge. Glass lantern slide from the Grist collection, unattributed.

This pretty hand-coloured postcard shows the original version of the Springs Hotel, before additions and renovations altered the look. The Hotel’s architect was Alan Walker. It looks like the stones in the foreground show preparatory work for the installation of the croquet lawn. The name “Stephine” written on the top left refers to the card’s Belgian recipient. Hand-coloured unattributed postcard (one of many!) from the Grist collection.
(there is a lot of words but no action re the empty site. The hotel burned down in 67 and was never rebuilt. I do like the idea of rebuilding it like it was. but that is far from the government’s preferred plan.)

Black Snake Camp. One of the early recreational huts on Mt. Wellington. This hut was built in 1891 and the people shown are most likely the hut builders and members of their families. Glass negative from the Grist collection, unattributed.

The Cascade Hut was built by employees of the Cascade Brewery in 1895. The chimney at left is massive. Glass negative from the Grist collection, unattributed.
Bogsnorkler said:
party_pants said:
Tiny homes might work better in a landscaped park type environment rather than a suburban setting. Sort of like a glorified caravan park. Small sites for lease, fully serviced, but set in a bit of nice surroundings.
a mixture of different concepts to suit different family make-ups. might even have shared accomodation for students and the like.
Yes. Lifestyle villages that suit a different range of lifestyles, not just the over 55s.
I like the idea of a workshop estate, where people build a big shed with a small flat attached. A community of craftspeople, artisans and such like that need a nice big home workshop. They are called Barndominiums in the US.
Bogsnorkler said:
party_pants said:
Tiny homes might work better in a landscaped park type environment rather than a suburban setting. Sort of like a glorified caravan park. Small sites for lease, fully serviced, but set in a bit of nice surroundings.
a mixture of different concepts to suit different family make-ups. might even have shared accomodation for students and the like.
My local council has a minimum requirement of six and half squares in the old measurements. Janina and I were talking about it tother day. She thinks she could live happily in a tiny house and I think she could too.I have a small house with two double bedrooms. But I have set up my day bed next to the fire and my studio takes up half the living room. there is one bedroom that I haven’t unused at all since I have been single. I could probably live smaller too. But the council says nay.
party_pants said:
Bogsnorkler said:
party_pants said:
Tiny homes might work better in a landscaped park type environment rather than a suburban setting. Sort of like a glorified caravan park. Small sites for lease, fully serviced, but set in a bit of nice surroundings.
a mixture of different concepts to suit different family make-ups. might even have shared accomodation for students and the like.
Yes. Lifestyle villages that suit a different range of lifestyles, not just the over 55s.
I like the idea of a workshop estate, where people build a big shed with a small flat attached. A community of craftspeople, artisans and such like that need a nice big home workshop. They are called Barndominiums in the US.
I also like the idea of tiny houses with access to a small common to run their dogs and a community garden.
sarahs mum said:
Bogsnorkler said:
party_pants said:
Tiny homes might work better in a landscaped park type environment rather than a suburban setting. Sort of like a glorified caravan park. Small sites for lease, fully serviced, but set in a bit of nice surroundings.
a mixture of different concepts to suit different family make-ups. might even have shared accomodation for students and the like.
My local council has a minimum requirement of six and half squares in the old measurements. Janina and I were talking about it tother day. She thinks she could live happily in a tiny house and I think she could too.I have a small house with two double bedrooms. But I have set up my day bed next to the fire and my studio takes up half the living room. there is one bedroom that I haven’t unused at all since I have been single. I could probably live smaller too. But the council says nay.
My house is quite small but comfortable.
Most tiny houses I have seen have dual or multipurpose areas. I don’t think I could live with having a combined eating and sitting area, which needs to be cleared away each night and turned into the bed area. That sort of thing would drive me nuts I think.
A lot of people miss the snow:
10 hours of TV static, 2,156,697 views.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0I4mTEdAf8
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
Bogsnorkler said:a mixture of different concepts to suit different family make-ups. might even have shared accomodation for students and the like.
My local council has a minimum requirement of six and half squares in the old measurements. Janina and I were talking about it tother day. She thinks she could live happily in a tiny house and I think she could too.I have a small house with two double bedrooms. But I have set up my day bed next to the fire and my studio takes up half the living room. there is one bedroom that I haven’t unused at all since I have been single. I could probably live smaller too. But the council says nay.
My house is quite small but comfortable.
Most tiny houses I have seen have dual or multipurpose areas. I don’t think I could live with having a combined eating and sitting area, which needs to be cleared away each night and turned into the bed area. That sort of thing would drive me nuts I think.
Me too. And a squeazy loft bed is also not my style.
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:My local council has a minimum requirement of six and half squares in the old measurements. Janina and I were talking about it tother day. She thinks she could live happily in a tiny house and I think she could too.I have a small house with two double bedrooms. But I have set up my day bed next to the fire and my studio takes up half the living room. there is one bedroom that I haven’t unused at all since I have been single. I could probably live smaller too. But the council says nay.
My house is quite small but comfortable.
Most tiny houses I have seen have dual or multipurpose areas. I don’t think I could live with having a combined eating and sitting area, which needs to be cleared away each night and turned into the bed area. That sort of thing would drive me nuts I think.
Me too. And a squeazy loft bed is also not my style.
Nor me. I am not so nimble and flexible these days.
I hate tiny houses. I’d like to live in a huge house with many dozens of rooms.
Often in my dreams I’m renting some enormous rambling place, wandering through rooms I seldom visit.

dv said:
In reality the lebensraum was todesraum.
Are you there mr car? have you heard of the Blair Digital Chanter? I just watched a couple of youtubes about it.
sarahs mum said:
Are you there mr car? have you heard of the Blair Digital Chanter? I just watched a couple of youtubes about it.
Ha, no I hadn’t heard of it. Sounds pretty good and is played the same way as an actual chanter (apart from not having to blow :))
An important advantage is that you can listen to what you’re playing on headphones without disturbing neighbours.
I was recently thinking of buying some Bulgarian bagpipes but the sound would be pretty intrusive in my current neighbourhood environment, which is basically ordinary suburban house spacing.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Are you there mr car? have you heard of the Blair Digital Chanter? I just watched a couple of youtubes about it.
Ha, no I hadn’t heard of it. Sounds pretty good and is played the same way as an actual chanter (apart from not having to blow :))
An important advantage is that you can listen to what you’re playing on headphones without disturbing neighbours.
I was recently thinking of buying some Bulgarian bagpipes but the sound would be pretty intrusive in my current neighbourhood environment, which is basically ordinary suburban house spacing.
And you don’t need big lungs full.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Are you there mr car? have you heard of the Blair Digital Chanter? I just watched a couple of youtubes about it.
Ha, no I hadn’t heard of it. Sounds pretty good and is played the same way as an actual chanter (apart from not having to blow :))
An important advantage is that you can listen to what you’re playing on headphones without disturbing neighbours.
I was recently thinking of buying some Bulgarian bagpipes but the sound would be pretty intrusive in my current neighbourhood environment, which is basically ordinary suburban house spacing.
It’d be pretty intrusive even if you were living in the sticks.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Are you there mr car? have you heard of the Blair Digital Chanter? I just watched a couple of youtubes about it.
Ha, no I hadn’t heard of it. Sounds pretty good and is played the same way as an actual chanter (apart from not having to blow :))
An important advantage is that you can listen to what you’re playing on headphones without disturbing neighbours.
I was recently thinking of buying some Bulgarian bagpipes but the sound would be pretty intrusive in my current neighbourhood environment, which is basically ordinary suburban house spacing.
I may have to search Youtube for Bulgarian Bagpipes.
Do I dare…?
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Are you there mr car? have you heard of the Blair Digital Chanter? I just watched a couple of youtubes about it.
Ha, no I hadn’t heard of it. Sounds pretty good and is played the same way as an actual chanter (apart from not having to blow :))
An important advantage is that you can listen to what you’re playing on headphones without disturbing neighbours.
I was recently thinking of buying some Bulgarian bagpipes but the sound would be pretty intrusive in my current neighbourhood environment, which is basically ordinary suburban house spacing.
It’d be pretty intrusive even if you were living in the sticks.
I miss the ex son in law coming up and playing pipes to my valley.
Looks like great fun.
Matt MacIsaac reviews the Blair Digital Chanter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWZ3ExpzblU
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Are you there mr car? have you heard of the Blair Digital Chanter? I just watched a couple of youtubes about it.
Ha, no I hadn’t heard of it. Sounds pretty good and is played the same way as an actual chanter (apart from not having to blow :))
An important advantage is that you can listen to what you’re playing on headphones without disturbing neighbours.
I was recently thinking of buying some Bulgarian bagpipes but the sound would be pretty intrusive in my current neighbourhood environment, which is basically ordinary suburban house spacing.
I may have to search Youtube for Bulgarian Bagpipes.
Do I dare…?
Well, I must declare them superior to the Scottish type. Never knew they existed.
Bubblecar said:
Looks like great fun.Matt MacIsaac reviews the Blair Digital Chanter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWZ3ExpzblU
I watched that one and one of a piper unboxing it. If you watch that one scroll through it.
party_pants said:
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:Ha, no I hadn’t heard of it. Sounds pretty good and is played the same way as an actual chanter (apart from not having to blow :))
An important advantage is that you can listen to what you’re playing on headphones without disturbing neighbours.
I was recently thinking of buying some Bulgarian bagpipes but the sound would be pretty intrusive in my current neighbourhood environment, which is basically ordinary suburban house spacing.
I may have to search Youtube for Bulgarian Bagpipes.
Do I dare…?
Well, I must declare them superior to the Scottish type. Never knew they existed.
draws air through teeth
Och, aye, yu’e fucked, jimmy.
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
party_pants said:I may have to search Youtube for Bulgarian Bagpipes.
Do I dare…?
Well, I must declare them superior to the Scottish type. Never knew they existed.
draws air through teeth
Och, aye, yu’e fucked, jimmy.
The definition of gentleman is a man who knows how to play the bagpipes…but doesn’t.
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
party_pants said:I may have to search Youtube for Bulgarian Bagpipes.
Do I dare…?
Well, I must declare them superior to the Scottish type. Never knew they existed.
draws air through teeth
Och, aye, yu’e fucked, jimmy.
I think they are down my list a long way.
Neophyte said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:Well, I must declare them superior to the Scottish type. Never knew they existed.
draws air through teeth
Och, aye, yu’e fucked, jimmy.
The definition of gentleman is a man who knows how to play the bagpipes…but doesn’t.
:)
I just watched a black books. It must be the first one. I did laugh.
sarahs mum said:
I just watched a black books. It must be the first one. I did laugh.
BB is fantastic!
This photograph of a woman holding a recovering Canadian Lynx was taken at the Frisco Creek Wildlife Hospital and Rehabilitation Center in Colorado

sarahs mum said:
I just watched a black books. It must be the first one. I did laugh.
It is a silly show but I liked it.
Bogsnorkler said:
the youngest bandicoot is getting brave. comes up to me when i’m eating outside looking for crumbs. gets a couple then bites my toes for more. will eat out of my hand now.
You’ve got a friend?
poikilotherm said:
dv said:
The phylum of animals with the most species is Arthropoda.The phylum of animals with the most individuals is Nematoda. There are something in the vicinity of 1000000000000000000000 nematodes, ie 1 × 10 21, on sextillion … a thousand billion billion.
A lot.
So who counted all them nematodes?
Whoever it was, never finished.
Morning.
It’s 11 degrees, sunny, and I’m popular on Reddit 🤷♀️
Good morning Holidayers. Seven degrees and overcast. Forecast for today is a partly cloudy 13.
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Seven degrees and overcast. Forecast for today is a partly cloudy 13.
8.8 here and heading for 15. Increasing sunshine they say but all that is going to lead to is a series of consecutive frosts at around zero degrees for the rest of the week.
I dunno. I want to know why the sugar pine was planted. What was expected to have been gained from it and all I get are sugar pine walk stories and how they want to replace the damaged trees. Even a suspended account on twitter purportedly from Michael McCormack but no answer to my question.
Is the word, jump or jumps used often in stock market reports?
Headliine: Aussie dollar surges above 68.9 US cents, as Wall Street jumps on COVID-19 recovery hopes.
I hope that the rise of the Aussie dollar isn’t the reason wall Street is jumping on COVID-19 recovery hopes.
Geeze.
Doing a search on:
is app.box.com safe
I don’t find anything telling me if app.box.com is safe.
Anyone here know?
The Rev Dodgson said:
Doing a search on:is app.box.com safe
I don’t find anything telling me if app.box.com is safe.
Anyone here know?
The Rev Dodgson said:
Doing a search on:is app.box.com safe
I don’t find anything telling me if app.box.com is safe.
Anyone here know?
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Doing a search on:is app.box.com safe
I don’t find anything telling me if app.box.com is safe.
Anyone here know?
There is more but I didn’t want to make too big a photo.
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Doing a search on:is app.box.com safe
I don’t find anything telling me if app.box.com is safe.
Anyone here know?
I got stuff like that, but it doesn’t answer my question.
There is a difference between an on-line drive like Dropbox, and something that looks like it is an on-line app.
I think I’ll tret it as not safe anyway.
Divine Angel said:
Morning.It’s 11 degrees, sunny, and I’m popular on Reddit 🤷♀️
How did that happen?
Bogsnorkler said:
party_pants said:
… and no off-grid self-sufficient stuff either. Connections to mains for utilities.
kinda like those floating houses in the netherlands or somewhere around there.
But with some curtains, please…
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Morning.It’s 11 degrees, sunny, and I’m popular on Reddit 🤷♀️
How did that happen?
Because I’m awesome, duh.
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Doing a search on:is app.box.com safe
I don’t find anything telling me if app.box.com is safe.
Anyone here know?
I got stuff like that, but it doesn’t answer my question.
There is a difference between an on-line drive like Dropbox, and something that looks like it is an on-line app.
I think I’ll tret it as not safe anyway.
Drop Box seems OK. Have been using that for a long time for free and have had no problems.
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Morning.It’s 11 degrees, sunny, and I’m popular on Reddit 🤷♀️
How did that happen?
Because I’m awesome, duh.
As well as divine and mutant?
sarahs mum said:
![]()
Fern Lea Hut, built by the “Booberoo Boys” around 1905. You can see the name worked in rustic style at the top. Glass negative from the Grist collection, unattributed.
www.mtwellingtonhistory.com
Grass Tree Hut, built 1891. This was the first of the recreational huts to be decorated in the rustic style, and the hut members were called on by the Hobart City Council to help in the beautification of Fern Tree Bower. Cropped half of stereoscopic glass negative from the Grist collection, unattributed. I will post the full stereoscopic version in the comments.
Sam Parlour (aka Parlow, Parley) was a charcoal-burner who lived above the Waterworks. This is his house and shed complex. Glass negative from the Grist collection, unattributed.
The Waratah Hut was another of the ornate recreational huts built on the Mountain between 1880 and 1920. The essential fashion at this hut for gentlemen, as shown in several photos, was bowler hats. Glass negative from the Grist collection, unattributed. Date probably c. 1900.
The Wellington Hut was another of the ornate recreational huts built on the Mountain between 1880 and 1920. The lady at left is not floating, as it seems, but standing on a cut tree stump. Glass negative from the Grist collection, unattributed. Date probably c. 1900.
Lone Cabin. This hut was lived in for many years by honorary Ranger Dan Griffiths, who was a friend of birds and animals, and assisted the Council in looking after the reserve. This photo shows the hut soon after its construction in 1911. Danny Griffiths claimed to own an axe left by Captain Cook at Adventure Bay, and it is quite possible the axe shown resting on the chimney is the same one. It was eventually stolen despite Danny’s precautions, and to his great sorrow. Glass lantern slide from the Grist collection, unattributed.
Clement Wragge’s meteorological observatory, which was built at the Pinnacle in 1895, but only survived until 1909, when it was destroyed by fire. There was no road yet, and all of the materials had to be carried up by hand. For the meteorologists spending nights at this station, it must have been a real challenge. Glass lantern slide from the Grist collection, unattributed.
This pretty hand-coloured postcard shows the original version of the Springs Hotel, before additions and renovations altered the look. The Hotel’s architect was Alan Walker. It looks like the stones in the foreground show preparatory work for the installation of the croquet lawn. The name “Stephine” written on the top left refers to the card’s Belgian recipient. Hand-coloured unattributed postcard (one of many!) from the Grist collection.
(there is a lot of words but no action re the empty site. The hotel burned down in 67 and was never rebuilt. I do like the idea of rebuilding it like it was. but that is far from the government’s preferred plan.)
Black Snake Camp. One of the early recreational huts on Mt. Wellington. This hut was built in 1891 and the people shown are most likely the hut builders and members of their families. Glass negative from the Grist collection, unattributed.
The Cascade Hut was built by employees of the Cascade Brewery in 1895. The chimney at left is massive. Glass negative from the Grist collection, unattributed.
And the women said – “Oh, go up the mountain with your mates!” to get him out of the house and have some peace.
;)
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Morning.It’s 11 degrees, sunny, and I’m popular on Reddit 🤷♀️
How did that happen?
Because I’m awesome, duh.
Well that explains it then.
party_pants said:
Bogsnorkler said:
party_pants said:
Tiny homes might work better in a landscaped park type environment rather than a suburban setting. Sort of like a glorified caravan park. Small sites for lease, fully serviced, but set in a bit of nice surroundings.
a mixture of different concepts to suit different family make-ups. might even have shared accomodation for students and the like.
Yes. Lifestyle villages that suit a different range of lifestyles, not just the over 55s.
I like the idea of a workshop estate, where people build a big shed with a small flat attached. A community of craftspeople, artisans and such like that need a nice big home workshop. They are called Barndominiums in the US.
Mens Sheds here.
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
I got stuff like that, but it doesn’t answer my question.
There is a difference between an on-line drive like Dropbox, and something that looks like it is an on-line app.
I think I’ll tret it as not safe anyway.
Drop Box seems OK. Have been using that for a long time for free and have had no problems.
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:I got stuff like that, but it doesn’t answer my question.
There is a difference between an on-line drive like Dropbox, and something that looks like it is an on-line app.
I think I’ll tret it as not safe anyway.
Drop Box seems OK. Have been using that for a long time for free and have had no problems.
Me too. Dropbox seems trouble free.
I go on the fact that anything my son uses, is good enough for me. The lad knows everything about IT stuff. He was systems analysist at Optus for 12 years before he moved to Norway to train others.
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:I got stuff like that, but it doesn’t answer my question.
There is a difference between an on-line drive like Dropbox, and something that looks like it is an on-line app.
I think I’ll tret it as not safe anyway.
Drop Box seems OK. Have been using that for a long time for free and have had no problems.
Me too. Dropbox seems trouble free.
I’m not asking about Dropbox, I’m asking about app.box.com
The Rev Dodgson said:
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:Drop Box seems OK. Have been using that for a long time for free and have had no problems.
Me too. Dropbox seems trouble free.I’m not asking about Dropbox, I’m asking about app.box.com
I’ll ask my son if you want.
He knows how to test things without risking stuff.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:Drop Box seems OK. Have been using that for a long time for free and have had no problems.
Me too. Dropbox seems trouble free.I’m not asking about Dropbox, I’m asking about app.box.com
I don’t know anything about it. What is it you are trying to do?
The Rev Dodgson said:
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:Drop Box seems OK. Have been using that for a long time for free and have had no problems.
Me too. Dropbox seems trouble free.I’m not asking about Dropbox, I’m asking about app.box.com
Safe Web Report for app.box.com: OK (safe)
Check if App.box.com is scam or legit: Potentially Safe
Black list status: 1/35
Problem being, you then have to determine if the sites that check a site are also legit…
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Tamb said:Me too. Dropbox seems trouble free.
I’m not asking about Dropbox, I’m asking about app.box.com
I don’t know anything about it. What is it you are trying to do?
Find out if it is safe to click on a link to app.box.com
furious said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Tamb said:Me too. Dropbox seems trouble free.
I’m not asking about Dropbox, I’m asking about app.box.com
Safe Web Report for app.box.com: OK (safe)
Check if App.box.com is scam or legit: Potentially Safe
Black list status: 1/35Problem being, you then have to determine if the sites that check a site are also legit…
On reflection, I think the answer is it’s not safe to run an executable file from someone you don’t know, no matter where it is stored.
The Rev Dodgson said:
furious said:
The Rev Dodgson said:I’m not asking about Dropbox, I’m asking about app.box.com
Safe Web Report for app.box.com: OK (safe)
Check if App.box.com is scam or legit: Potentially Safe
Black list status: 1/35Problem being, you then have to determine if the sites that check a site are also legit…
On reflection, I think the answer is it’s not safe to run an executable file from someone you don’t know, no matter where it is stored.
That’s why I love Mac.
Couldn’t get my regular Tableland milk here so I bought another brand. Thin and watery. These are the ones I usually get
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
furious said:Safe Web Report for app.box.com: OK (safe)
Check if App.box.com is scam or legit: Potentially Safe
Black list status: 1/35Problem being, you then have to determine if the sites that check a site are also legit…
On reflection, I think the answer is it’s not safe to run an executable file from someone you don’t know, no matter where it is stored.
That’s why I love Mac.
Because no-one you don’t know ever tries to get you to download an executable file if you use a Mac?
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:On reflection, I think the answer is it’s not safe to run an executable file from someone you don’t know, no matter where it is stored.
That’s why I love Mac.
Because no-one you don’t know ever tries to get you to download an executable file if you use a Mac?
yep.
Sage advice…
furious said:
- On reflection, I think the answer is it’s not safe to run an executable file from someone you don’t know, no matter where it is stored.
Sage advice…
As far as it goes. Mail with an .exe may be passed on through a server to others without affecting the Mac it was mailed to.
We haven’t detected what the original source is … any dog that entered Australia which is infected and has been bitten by a tick could be a source of the outbreak.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-03/ehrlichiosis-detected-in-kimberley-dogs/12313052
> does this mean that boats are still getting in to Australia despite the border force?
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:I’m not asking about Dropbox, I’m asking about app.box.com
I don’t know anything about it. What is it you are trying to do?
Find out if it is safe to click on a link to app.box.com
Is the source of the link legitimate, and do you trust that source?
The Rev Dodgson said:
furious said:
The Rev Dodgson said:I’m not asking about Dropbox, I’m asking about app.box.com
Safe Web Report for app.box.com: OK (safe)
Check if App.box.com is scam or legit: Potentially Safe
Black list status: 1/35Problem being, you then have to determine if the sites that check a site are also legit…
On reflection, I think the answer is it’s not safe to run an executable file from someone you don’t know, no matter where it is stored.
This.
And this answers my last question, thanks.
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:I don’t know anything about it. What is it you are trying to do?
Find out if it is safe to click on a link to app.box.com
Is the source of the link legitimate, and do you trust that source?
What he is talking about is that even if the other person is legitimate, he still wants not to be delivered with executable files that he knows little about.
ie; he does not know if he can trust it. Wants to learn yes but still has no definitive answer.
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
furious said:Safe Web Report for app.box.com: OK (safe)
Check if App.box.com is scam or legit: Potentially Safe
Black list status: 1/35Problem being, you then have to determine if the sites that check a site are also legit…
On reflection, I think the answer is it’s not safe to run an executable file from someone you don’t know, no matter where it is stored.
This.
And this answers my last question, thanks.
Is appbox.exe safe, or is it a virus or malware?
The first thing that will help you determine if a particular file is a legitimate Windows process or a virus, is the location of the executable itself. For example, a process like appbox.exe should run from C:\Program Files\asus\app box\appbox.exe and not elsewhere.
To confirm, open the Task Manager, go to View -> Select Columns and select “Image Path Name” to add a location column to your Task Manager. If you find a suspicious directory here, it may be a good idea to investigate this process further.
Another tool that can sometimes help you detect bad processes is Microsoft’s Process Explorer. Start the program (it does not require installation) and activate “Check Legends” under Options. Now go to View -> Select Columns and add “Verified Signer” as one of the columns.
If the “Verified Signer” status of a process is listed as “Unable to Verify”, you should take a moment look at the process. Not all good Windows processes have a Verified Signature label, but neither do any of the bad ones.
The most important facts about appbox.exe:
Located in C:\Program Files\ASUS\App Box subfolder; Publisher: ASUS Full Path: C:\Program Files\asus\app box\appbox.exe Help file: Publisher URL: Known to be up to 19.34 MB in size on most Windows;If you had any difficulties with this executable, you should determine if it’s trustworthy before deleting appbox.exe. To do this, find this process in Task Manager.
Find its location (it should be in C:\Program Files\ASUS\App Box) and compare the size etc with the above facts. http://windowsbulletin.com/files/exe/asus/asus-app-box/appbox-exe
The Rev Dodgson said:
furious said:
The Rev Dodgson said:I’m not asking about Dropbox, I’m asking about app.box.com
Safe Web Report for app.box.com: OK (safe)
Check if App.box.com is scam or legit: Potentially Safe
Black list status: 1/35Problem being, you then have to determine if the sites that check a site are also legit…
On reflection, I think the answer is it’s not safe to run an executable file from someone you don’t know, no matter where it is stored.
Why not just run it in a doubly-insulated vm? If it turns out not to be what you expect, just delete the machine.
Shower, then it’s wait for the bro-in-law to come and take me to the Ross sister’s place for a birthday lunch.
Bubblecar said:
Shower, then it’s wait for the bro-in-law to come and take me to the Ross sister’s place for a birthday lunch.
Enjoy. :)
HB again.
Morning punters and correctors.
Let not Ambition mock their useful toil,
Their homely joys, and destiny obscure;
Nor Grandeur hear with a disdainful smile,
The short and simple annals of cold people
rubs hands
For roughy: “The Sugar Pine Walk was planted in 1928 as part of a trial of different exotic species by the forestry industry.”
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-03/instagrammer-favourite-sugar-pine-walk-to-be-cut-down/12310558
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:I don’t know anything about it. What is it you are trying to do?
Find out if it is safe to click on a link to app.box.com
Is the source of the link legitimate, and do you trust that source?
No, it’s a comment on my blog. Could be anybody.
btm said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
furious said:Safe Web Report for app.box.com: OK (safe)
Check if App.box.com is scam or legit: Potentially Safe
Black list status: 1/35Problem being, you then have to determine if the sites that check a site are also legit…
On reflection, I think the answer is it’s not safe to run an executable file from someone you don’t know, no matter where it is stored.
Why not just run it in a doubly-insulated vm? If it turns out not to be what you expect, just delete the machine.
It’s highly likely that at some stage you are going to get a Miley Cyrus no matter what you do.
Bubblecar said:
Shower, then it’s wait for the bro-in-law to come and take me to the Ross sister’s place for a birthday lunch.
Enjoy yourself.
:)
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Find out if it is safe to click on a link to app.box.com
Is the source of the link legitimate, and do you trust that source?
No, it’s a comment on my blog. Could be anybody.
It’s not me and anyway you can’t prove it.
btm said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
furious said:Safe Web Report for app.box.com: OK (safe)
Check if App.box.com is scam or legit: Potentially Safe
Black list status: 1/35Problem being, you then have to determine if the sites that check a site are also legit…
On reflection, I think the answer is it’s not safe to run an executable file from someone you don’t know, no matter where it is stored.
Why not just run it in a doubly-insulated vm? If it turns out not to be what you expect, just delete the machine.
Could do that I suppose.
But it’s easier just to ignore it.
Michael V said:
For roughy: “The Sugar Pine Walk was planted in 1928 as part of a trial of different exotic species by the forestry industry.”https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-03/instagrammer-favourite-sugar-pine-walk-to-be-cut-down/12310558
Greetings
Peak Warming Man said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:Is the source of the link legitimate, and do you trust that source?
No, it’s a comment on my blog. Could be anybody.
It’s not me and anyway you can’t prove it.
You know it wasn’t mine because I can’t send .exe files.
The Rev Dodgson said:
btm said:
The Rev Dodgson said:On reflection, I think the answer is it’s not safe to run an executable file from someone you don’t know, no matter where it is stored.
Why not just run it in a doubly-insulated vm? If it turns out not to be what you expect, just delete the machine.
Could do that I suppose.
But it’s easier just to ignore it.
Were you asked the question.. do you really want to open this?
http://kaldorartprojects.org.au/projects/project-01-christo-and-jeanne-claude
https://christojeanneclaude.net/mobile/projects?p=wrapped-coast
Happy Birthday Mr Car!
By North America correspondent James Glenday
Faced with a “human tsunami” of young protesters being coralled into his suburban Washington neighbourhood by police, Rahul Dubey opened his doors and gave them sanctuary.
from justin.
roughbarked said:
By North America correspondent James Glenday
Faced with a “human tsunami” of young protesters being coralled into his suburban Washington neighbourhood by police, Rahul Dubey opened his doors and gave them sanctuary.from justin.
Decent people around which is good
Cymek said:
roughbarked said:
By North America correspondent James Glenday
Faced with a “human tsunami” of young protesters being coralled into his suburban Washington neighbourhood by police, Rahul Dubey opened his doors and gave them sanctuary.from justin.
Decent people around which is good
Speaking of that. G’day Cymek.
roughbarked said:
Cymek said:
roughbarked said:
By North America correspondent James Glenday
Faced with a “human tsunami” of young protesters being coralled into his suburban Washington neighbourhood by police, Rahul Dubey opened his doors and gave them sanctuary.from justin.
Decent people around which is good
Speaking of that. G’day Cymek.
Hey roughbarked how are you ?
roughbarked said:
http://kaldorartprojects.org.au/projects/project-01-christo-and-jeanne-claudehttps://christojeanneclaude.net/mobile/projects?p=wrapped-coast
Always did wonder whether he was told to remove and dispose of it at his own expense?
Cymek said:
roughbarked said:
Cymek said:Decent people around which is good
Speaking of that. G’day Cymek.
Hey roughbarked how are you ?
Hand is healing and I still have my fingers.
Could get more sleep but I’ll probably have to start taking CBN for that.
roughbarked said:
Cymek said:
roughbarked said:Speaking of that. G’day Cymek.
Hey roughbarked how are you ?
Hand is healing and I still have my fingers.
Could get more sleep but I’ll probably have to start taking CBN for that.
That’s good
Sleep is also good, find it hard to get a decent nights sleep
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
For roughy: “The Sugar Pine Walk was planted in 1928 as part of a trial of different exotic species by the forestry industry.”https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-03/instagrammer-favourite-sugar-pine-walk-to-be-cut-down/12310558
I gathered that but I could find no more detailed information on the trial or the results.
Seems they preferred Pinus radiata because that’s all they talk about other than a failed attempt with slash pines.
Up here, it’s slash pines in the nearby plantations. Plantations further afield have Araucaria cunninghamii (hoop pine).
Cymek said:
roughbarked said:
Cymek said:Hey roughbarked how are you ?
Hand is healing and I still have my fingers.
Could get more sleep but I’ll probably have to start taking CBN for that.
That’s good
Sleep is also good, find it hard to get a decent nights sleep
Cannabis stalk tea is a source of CBN and CBD but they use all of that for paper and fibre products.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
For roughy: “The Sugar Pine Walk was planted in 1928 as part of a trial of different exotic species by the forestry industry.”https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-03/instagrammer-favourite-sugar-pine-walk-to-be-cut-down/12310558
I gathered that but I could find no more detailed information on the trial or the results.
Seems they preferred Pinus radiata because that’s all they talk about other than a failed attempt with slash pines.
Up here, it’s slash pines in the nearby plantations. Plantations further afield have Araucaria cunninghamii (hoop pine).
Araucaria may be called a pine but it isn’t. Great wood though.
Yeah slash pines are suited for norther climes.
I was talking about cooler and drier parts of Aus.
Speedy said:
Happy Birthday Mr Car!
Ah well I suppose we have to.
HBBC
There it’s done.
Some of you might like C Grey’s continuing series on piracy
https://youtu.be/3YFeE1eDlD0
https://youtu.be/3YFeE1eDlD0ttps://youtu.be/T0fAznO1wA8
Peak Warming Man said:
Speedy said:
Happy Birthday Mr Car!
Ah well I suppose we have to.
HBBC
There it’s done.
I also bestow felicitations.
Peak Warming Man said:
Speedy said:
Happy Birthday Mr Car!
Ah well I suppose we have to.
HBBC
There it’s done.
Don’t we have to do something about someone’s anniversary as well?
dv said:
Some of you might like C Grey’s continuing series on piracyhttps://youtu.be/3YFeE1eDlD0
https://youtu.be/3YFeE1eDlD0
https://youtu.be/T0fAznO1wA8
fixed
roughbarked said:
dv said:
Some of you might like C Grey’s continuing series on piracyhttps://youtu.be/3YFeE1eDlD0
https://youtu.be/3YFeE1eDlD0
https://youtu.be/T0fAznO1wA8
fixed
Bank robbery stimulates the economy.
Joyeux anniversaire, Voiture de Bulle!
Thanks everyone :)
Now I’m overheated from trying to dry my hair in front of the fan heater.
Thank goodness Helen will be here tomorrow to remove a few kilos of it.
Bubblecar said:
Thanks everyone :)Now I’m overheated from trying to dry my hair in front of the fan heater.
Thank goodness Helen will be here tomorrow to remove a few kilos of it.
Bubblecar said:
Thanks everyone :)Now I’m overheated from trying to dry my hair in front of the fan heater.
Thank goodness Helen will be here tomorrow to remove a few kilos of it.
I’m blessed with an arid climate in that regard. Have a hairdryer but only use it on clocks I’ve washed in hot water.
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
Thanks everyone :)Now I’m overheated from trying to dry my hair in front of the fan heater.
Thank goodness Helen will be here tomorrow to remove a few kilos of it.
I’m looking distinctively Wookielike. Haircut next Monday.
Hurry before you have an obsession with drones
Cymek said:
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
Thanks everyone :)Now I’m overheated from trying to dry my hair in front of the fan heater.
Thank goodness Helen will be here tomorrow to remove a few kilos of it.
I’m looking distinctively Wookielike. Haircut next Monday.Hurry before you have an obsession with drones
Wonder what Tau’s hair looks like?
roughbarked said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Speedy said:
Happy Birthday Mr Car!
Ah well I suppose we have to.
HBBC
There it’s done.
Don’t we have to do something about someone’s anniversary as well?
Commiserations will be plentiful.
Cymek said:
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
Thanks everyone :)Now I’m overheated from trying to dry my hair in front of the fan heater.
Thank goodness Helen will be here tomorrow to remove a few kilos of it.
I’m looking distinctively Wookielike. Haircut next Monday.Hurry before you have an obsession with drones
They are a lotta-fun-to-play-with.
Witty Rejoinder said:
roughbarked said:
Peak Warming Man said:Ah well I suppose we have to.
HBBC
There it’s done.
Don’t we have to do something about someone’s anniversary as well?
Commiserations will be plentiful.
Sibeen’s, I think?
Bubblecar said:
Thanks everyone :)Now I’m overheated from trying to dry my hair in front of the fan heater.
Thank goodness Helen will be here tomorrow to remove a few kilos of it.
Happy birthday Mr Car. I hope you have a convivial and happy time of your day today.
Divine Angel said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
roughbarked said:Don’t we have to do something about someone’s anniversary as well?
Commiserations will be plentiful.
Sibeen’s, I think?
Yeah. How SWMBO has put up with him so long is a mystery.
Cymek said:
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
Thanks everyone :)Now I’m overheated from trying to dry my hair in front of the fan heater.
Thank goodness Helen will be here tomorrow to remove a few kilos of it.
I’m looking distinctively Wookielike. Haircut next Monday.Hurry before you have an obsession with drones
LOL
Witty Rejoinder said:
Divine Angel said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Commiserations will be plentiful.
Sibeen’s, I think?
Yeah. How SWMBO has put up with him so long is a mystery.
He probably rewires her circuits occasionally.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-03/don-dale-tear-gassing-unlawful-high-court-rules/12315170
The High Court has found the tear-gassing of four teenagers in Darwin’s Don Dale Youth Detention Centre was unlawful.
Lawyers for the teenagers had appealed against lower-court findings that adult prison officers were authorised to use the gas during a night of unrest in August 2014.
In a majority ruling, the High Court found exemptions allowing the guards’ use of the gas, which is classified as a prohibited weapon, did not apply in the youth detention centre.
The decision opens the way for the teenagers to claim damages for battery.
The group had previously been awarded limited damages for some aspects of their treatment on the night, including the use of spit-hoods and leg shackles.
But Northern Territory Supreme Court Judge Judith Kelly ruled that the tear-gassing was reasonable and necessary.
The High Court today sent the matter back to the Northern Territory Supreme Court for another judge to assess what damages should be awarded.
It has also ordered that the Northern Territory cover the legal costs of the detainees, who were represented by high-profile barrister Bret Walker SC.
More to come.
Probably planted late but the broad beans are working.
Not sure how that tomato will fare but the peas should overwhelm.
Rio Tinto feels more heat on cave blast as investor pressure rises
By Nick Toscano
June 3, 2020 — 12.00am
One of Rio Tinto’s largest shareholders says the mining giant’s destruction of ancient rock shelters in Western Australia calls into question the company’s commitment to doing what is right, not just what is legal.
Rio Tinto has apologised to devastated traditional owners after detonating explosives at a 46,000-year-old culturally significant site in the Pilbara region as part of an expansion of an iron ore mine. Aberdeen Standard Investments, the seventh-biggest holder of Rio’s London stock, said the destruction was deeply concerning and raised questions about the adequacy of the company’s governance, community engagement and policies surrounding significant sites.
Read more:
https://www.theage.com.au/business/companies/rio-tinto-feels-more-heat-on-cave-blast-as-investor-pressure-rises-20200602-p54yqm.html
Witty Rejoinder said:
…calls into question the company’s commitment to doing what is right, not just what is legal.
the crux.
Arts said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-03/don-dale-tear-gassing-unlawful-high-court-rules/12315170The High Court has found the tear-gassing of four teenagers in Darwin’s Don Dale Youth Detention Centre was unlawful.
Lawyers for the teenagers had appealed against lower-court findings that adult prison officers were authorised to use the gas during a night of unrest in August 2014.
In a majority ruling, the High Court found exemptions allowing the guards’ use of the gas, which is classified as a prohibited weapon, did not apply in the youth detention centre.
The decision opens the way for the teenagers to claim damages for battery.
The group had previously been awarded limited damages for some aspects of their treatment on the night, including the use of spit-hoods and leg shackles.
But Northern Territory Supreme Court Judge Judith Kelly ruled that the tear-gassing was reasonable and necessary.
The High Court today sent the matter back to the Northern Territory Supreme Court for another judge to assess what damages should be awarded.
It has also ordered that the Northern Territory cover the legal costs of the detainees, who were represented by high-profile barrister Bret Walker SC.
More to come.
So what were the guards supposed to do?
furious said:
Arts said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-03/don-dale-tear-gassing-unlawful-high-court-rules/12315170The High Court has found the tear-gassing of four teenagers in Darwin’s Don Dale Youth Detention Centre was unlawful.
Lawyers for the teenagers had appealed against lower-court findings that adult prison officers were authorised to use the gas during a night of unrest in August 2014.
In a majority ruling, the High Court found exemptions allowing the guards’ use of the gas, which is classified as a prohibited weapon, did not apply in the youth detention centre.
The decision opens the way for the teenagers to claim damages for battery.
The group had previously been awarded limited damages for some aspects of their treatment on the night, including the use of spit-hoods and leg shackles.
But Northern Territory Supreme Court Judge Judith Kelly ruled that the tear-gassing was reasonable and necessary.
The High Court today sent the matter back to the Northern Territory Supreme Court for another judge to assess what damages should be awarded.
It has also ordered that the Northern Territory cover the legal costs of the detainees, who were represented by high-profile barrister Bret Walker SC.
More to come.
So what were the guards supposed to do?
apparently not use tear gas
furious said:
Arts said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-03/don-dale-tear-gassing-unlawful-high-court-rules/12315170The High Court has found the tear-gassing of four teenagers in Darwin’s Don Dale Youth Detention Centre was unlawful.
Lawyers for the teenagers had appealed against lower-court findings that adult prison officers were authorised to use the gas during a night of unrest in August 2014.
In a majority ruling, the High Court found exemptions allowing the guards’ use of the gas, which is classified as a prohibited weapon, did not apply in the youth detention centre.
The decision opens the way for the teenagers to claim damages for battery.
The group had previously been awarded limited damages for some aspects of their treatment on the night, including the use of spit-hoods and leg shackles.
But Northern Territory Supreme Court Judge Judith Kelly ruled that the tear-gassing was reasonable and necessary.
The High Court today sent the matter back to the Northern Territory Supreme Court for another judge to assess what damages should be awarded.
It has also ordered that the Northern Territory cover the legal costs of the detainees, who were represented by high-profile barrister Bret Walker SC.
More to come.
So what were the guards supposed to do?
Use harsh words
Cymek said:
furious said:
Arts said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-03/don-dale-tear-gassing-unlawful-high-court-rules/12315170The High Court has found the tear-gassing of four teenagers in Darwin’s Don Dale Youth Detention Centre was unlawful.
Lawyers for the teenagers had appealed against lower-court findings that adult prison officers were authorised to use the gas during a night of unrest in August 2014.
In a majority ruling, the High Court found exemptions allowing the guards’ use of the gas, which is classified as a prohibited weapon, did not apply in the youth detention centre.
The decision opens the way for the teenagers to claim damages for battery.
The group had previously been awarded limited damages for some aspects of their treatment on the night, including the use of spit-hoods and leg shackles.
But Northern Territory Supreme Court Judge Judith Kelly ruled that the tear-gassing was reasonable and necessary.
The High Court today sent the matter back to the Northern Territory Supreme Court for another judge to assess what damages should be awarded.
It has also ordered that the Northern Territory cover the legal costs of the detainees, who were represented by high-profile barrister Bret Walker SC.
More to come.
So what were the guards supposed to do?
Use harsh words
And all this going on about spit hoods… if they didn’t spit on the guards they wouldn’t need them…
furious said:
Arts said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-03/don-dale-tear-gassing-unlawful-high-court-rules/12315170The High Court has found the tear-gassing of four teenagers in Darwin’s Don Dale Youth Detention Centre was unlawful.
Lawyers for the teenagers had appealed against lower-court findings that adult prison officers were authorised to use the gas during a night of unrest in August 2014.
In a majority ruling, the High Court found exemptions allowing the guards’ use of the gas, which is classified as a prohibited weapon, did not apply in the youth detention centre.
The decision opens the way for the teenagers to claim damages for battery.
The group had previously been awarded limited damages for some aspects of their treatment on the night, including the use of spit-hoods and leg shackles.
But Northern Territory Supreme Court Judge Judith Kelly ruled that the tear-gassing was reasonable and necessary.
The High Court today sent the matter back to the Northern Territory Supreme Court for another judge to assess what damages should be awarded.
It has also ordered that the Northern Territory cover the legal costs of the detainees, who were represented by high-profile barrister Bret Walker SC.
More to come.
So what were the guards supposed to do?
bribe them with chocolates.
furious said:
Cymek said:
furious said:So what were the guards supposed to do?
Use harsh words
And all this going on about spit hoods… if they didn’t spit on the guards they wouldn’t need them…
Yes but they are poor kiddies who are misunderstood, the fact they are locked up more than likely means they are considered dangerous as they don’t like to imprison juveniles
furious said:
Cymek said:
furious said:So what were the guards supposed to do?
Use harsh words
And all this going on about spit hoods… if they didn’t spit on the guards they wouldn’t need them…
Yes that’s quite absurd as it would be considered a heath risk with spitting not to mention it’s just a disgusting act to be on the receiving end of
Cymek said:
furious said:
Cymek said:Use harsh words
And all this going on about spit hoods… if they didn’t spit on the guards they wouldn’t need them…
Yes but they are poor kiddies who are misunderstood, the fact they are locked up more than likely means they are considered dangerous as they don’t like to imprison juveniles
But then if they were white…
party_pants said:
furious said:
Arts said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-03/don-dale-tear-gassing-unlawful-high-court-rules/12315170The High Court has found the tear-gassing of four teenagers in Darwin’s Don Dale Youth Detention Centre was unlawful.
Lawyers for the teenagers had appealed against lower-court findings that adult prison officers were authorised to use the gas during a night of unrest in August 2014.
In a majority ruling, the High Court found exemptions allowing the guards’ use of the gas, which is classified as a prohibited weapon, did not apply in the youth detention centre.
The decision opens the way for the teenagers to claim damages for battery.
The group had previously been awarded limited damages for some aspects of their treatment on the night, including the use of spit-hoods and leg shackles.
But Northern Territory Supreme Court Judge Judith Kelly ruled that the tear-gassing was reasonable and necessary.
The High Court today sent the matter back to the Northern Territory Supreme Court for another judge to assess what damages should be awarded.
It has also ordered that the Northern Territory cover the legal costs of the detainees, who were represented by high-profile barrister Bret Walker SC.
More to come.
So what were the guards supposed to do?
bribe them with chocolates.
sarahs mum said:
Cymek said:
furious said:And all this going on about spit hoods… if they didn’t spit on the guards they wouldn’t need them…
Yes but they are poor kiddies who are misunderstood, the fact they are locked up more than likely means they are considered dangerous as they don’t like to imprison juveniles
But then if they were white…
That has got absolutely nothing to do with it. You just don’t spit on people. Period.
Tamb said:
party_pants said:
furious said:So what were the guards supposed to do?
bribe them with chocolates.
Switch off their wifi?
Probably could do that
the events leading up to the ‘riot’ (not a riot) were despicable… this is not a black person white person thing, this is a power thing. The guards were taunting the juveniles, denying human rights. That’s why it became a big thing in the first place.. The deprivation of liberty the violation of basic human rights as a juvenile and then the treatment after the tear gas was introduced is what is up for discussion. Grown adults on top of a handcuffed, tear gassed child.
Cymek said:
Tamb said:
party_pants said:bribe them with chocolates.
Switch off their wifi?Probably could do that
Arts said:
the events leading up to the ‘riot’ (not a riot) were despicable… this is not a black person white person thing, this is a power thing. The guards were taunting the juveniles, denying human rights. That’s why it became a big thing in the first place.. The deprivation of liberty the violation of basic human rights as a juvenile and then the treatment after the tear gas was introduced is what is up for discussion. Grown adults on top of a handcuffed, tear gassed child.
Fair enough then
Think I’ll go to Masters and check out their angle grinders.
I’ve got a good one up at the Redoubt but I need one at home to cut through an old metal sink drain, drains were all metal way back then.
Peak Warming Man said:
Think I’ll go to Masters and check out their angle grinders.
I’ve got a good one up at the Redoubt but I need one at home to cut through an old metal sink drain, drains were all metal way back then.
For a one off job like that, can’t you hire one?
Peak Warming Man said:
Think I’ll go to Masters and check out their angle grinders.
I’ve got a good one up at the Redoubt but I need one at home to cut through an old metal sink drain, drains were all metal way back then.
Good luck. They went bankrupt 4 years ago and closed all their stores.
party_pants said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Think I’ll go to Masters and check out their angle grinders.
I’ve got a good one up at the Redoubt but I need one at home to cut through an old metal sink drain, drains were all metal way back then.
Good luck. They went bankrupt 4 years ago and closed all their stores.

need get outdoors for a while, away from the computer, these numbers and notes i’m looking at, have a strong aversion response, all needs be 100% accurate which do, have done for ten years or more, but it’s like doing months of work again typing notes from notepad to email, you know i’ve already done all that work
lady’s just heading down to get the mail…distant voice you going to get missy out or what?
me – yeah I’ll do that before I head out farm
feels coffee entropy snuck up on that
Had a bit of a funny chess game yesterdee. I was down a pawn and a knight, which is a serious deficit.
When you’re up in material, exchanging is usually a good idea because it enhances your relative advantage, and this is what my opponent did with some alacrity. We got down to like KB versus KBNP. I offered him my bishop in exchange for a pawn which, again, normally would be a big bonus for my opponent.
What I was counting on was that he would not be able to effect a KBN mate in time. It is the most difficult mate on the books, can take 33 moves even with perfect play, and hardly anyone studies it. He would have been better off shunning my exchange, letting me keep my bishop (or forcing an exchange of bishops) so that he could promote his pawn.
dv said:
Had a bit of a funny chess game yesterdee. I was down a pawn and a knight, which is a serious deficit.When you’re up in material, exchanging is usually a good idea because it enhances your relative advantage, and this is what my opponent did with some alacrity. We got down to like KB versus KBNP. I offered him my bishop in exchange for a pawn which, again, normally would be a big bonus for my opponent.
What I was counting on was that he would not be able to effect a KBN mate in time. It is the most difficult mate on the books, can take 33 moves even with perfect play, and hardly anyone studies it. He would have been better off shunning my exchange, letting me keep my bishop (or forcing an exchange of bishops) so that he could promote his pawn.
Then what happened?
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
Had a bit of a funny chess game yesterdee. I was down a pawn and a knight, which is a serious deficit.When you’re up in material, exchanging is usually a good idea because it enhances your relative advantage, and this is what my opponent did with some alacrity. We got down to like KB versus KBNP. I offered him my bishop in exchange for a pawn which, again, normally would be a big bonus for my opponent.
What I was counting on was that he would not be able to effect a KBN mate in time. It is the most difficult mate on the books, can take 33 moves even with perfect play, and hardly anyone studies it. He would have been better off shunning my exchange, letting me keep my bishop (or forcing an exchange of bishops) so that he could promote his pawn.
Then what happened?
Then my opponent ran out of time and it was thus a draw.
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
Had a bit of a funny chess game yesterdee. I was down a pawn and a knight, which is a serious deficit.When you’re up in material, exchanging is usually a good idea because it enhances your relative advantage, and this is what my opponent did with some alacrity. We got down to like KB versus KBNP. I offered him my bishop in exchange for a pawn which, again, normally would be a big bonus for my opponent.
What I was counting on was that he would not be able to effect a KBN mate in time. It is the most difficult mate on the books, can take 33 moves even with perfect play, and hardly anyone studies it. He would have been better off shunning my exchange, letting me keep my bishop (or forcing an exchange of bishops) so that he could promote his pawn.
Then what happened?
Culling is my modus operandi, it brings the computer’s highly sophisticated AI algorithms down to my level pretty quickly and then I go in for the kill with barbaric rat cunning.
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
Had a bit of a funny chess game yesterdee. I was down a pawn and a knight, which is a serious deficit.When you’re up in material, exchanging is usually a good idea because it enhances your relative advantage, and this is what my opponent did with some alacrity. We got down to like KB versus KBNP. I offered him my bishop in exchange for a pawn which, again, normally would be a big bonus for my opponent.
What I was counting on was that he would not be able to effect a KBN mate in time. It is the most difficult mate on the books, can take 33 moves even with perfect play, and hardly anyone studies it. He would have been better off shunning my exchange, letting me keep my bishop (or forcing an exchange of bishops) so that he could promote his pawn.
Then what happened?
Culling is my modus operandi, it brings the computer’s highly sophisticated AI algorithms down to my level pretty quickly and then I go in for the kill with barbaric rat cunning.
I think if I’d been playing a computer in this game I’d‘ve been screwed. Computers don’t forget how to end a game.
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:Then what happened?
Culling is my modus operandi, it brings the computer’s highly sophisticated AI algorithms down to my level pretty quickly and then I go in for the kill with barbaric rat cunning.
I think if I’d been playing a computer in this game I’d‘ve been screwed. Computers don’t forget how to end a game.
And computers don’t need much think time.
Sputnik (Russian: Спутник) was a Soviet magazine published from 1967 until 1991 by the Soviet press agency Novosti in several languages, targeted at both Eastern Bloc countries and Western nations. It was intended to be a Soviet equivalent to Reader’s Digest, publishing news stories excerpted from the Soviet press in a similar size and paper.
Although already censored by the Soviet government, Sputnik was at times censored by the governments of countries at odds with the Kremlin as the magazine took a more independent tone during glasnost, the most noted examples being East Germany in November 1988 and Cuba in 1989.
-wiki
Mark me down as old and not of my right mind.
sarahs mum said:
Sputnik (Russian: Спутник) was a Soviet magazine published from 1967 until 1991 by the Soviet press agency Novosti in several languages, targeted at both Eastern Bloc countries and Western nations. It was intended to be a Soviet equivalent to Reader’s Digest, publishing news stories excerpted from the Soviet press in a similar size and paper.Although already censored by the Soviet government, Sputnik was at times censored by the governments of countries at odds with the Kremlin as the magazine took a more independent tone during glasnost, the most noted examples being East Germany in November 1988 and Cuba in 1989.
-wikiMark me down as old and not of my right mind.
Pravda let’s go,
Back after a lovely lunch at the Ross sister’s. She also gave me a very fine present (a beautifully embroidered sampler she made) but I can’t have it yet because she’s going to frame it.
Now relaxing with a glass of another present (elderflower gin liqueur).
Bubblecar said:
Back after a lovely lunch at the Ross sister’s. She also gave me a very fine present (a beautifully embroidered sampler she made) but I can’t have it yet because she’s going to frame it.Now relaxing with a glass of another present (elderflower gin liqueur).
Happy Birthday Bubblecar.
Bubblecar said:
Back after a lovely lunch at the Ross sister’s. She also gave me a very fine present (a beautifully embroidered sampler she made) but I can’t have it yet because she’s going to frame it.Now relaxing with a glass of another present (elderflower gin liqueur).
Those sound nice
Arts said:
Bubblecar said:
Back after a lovely lunch at the Ross sister’s. She also gave me a very fine present (a beautifully embroidered sampler she made) but I can’t have it yet because she’s going to frame it.Now relaxing with a glass of another present (elderflower gin liqueur).
Happy Birthday Bubblecar.
Ta :)
I can get a bit mellow tonight because my hairdresser won’t be here until 3:30 tomorrow, by which time any hangover will have faded.
Bubblecar said:
Back after a lovely lunch at the Ross sister’s. She also gave me a very fine present (a beautifully embroidered sampler she made) but I can’t have it yet because she’s going to frame it.Now relaxing with a glass of another present (elderflower gin liqueur).
:)
Sounds like a most pleasant day.
:)
Bubblecar said:
Arts said:
Bubblecar said:
Back after a lovely lunch at the Ross sister’s. She also gave me a very fine present (a beautifully embroidered sampler she made) but I can’t have it yet because she’s going to frame it.Now relaxing with a glass of another present (elderflower gin liqueur).
Happy Birthday Bubblecar.
Ta :)
I can get a bit mellow tonight because my hairdresser won’t be here until 3:30 tomorrow, by which time any hangover will have faded.
My hairdresser opens next week… she has over 1000 bookings pending… I think I’ll be waiting a while… so I will probably get mellow too, I have reached research saturation for today… got some good words down though, so pleased with that effort.
Bubblecar said:
Arts said:
Bubblecar said:
Back after a lovely lunch at the Ross sister’s. She also gave me a very fine present (a beautifully embroidered sampler she made) but I can’t have it yet because she’s going to frame it.Now relaxing with a glass of another present (elderflower gin liqueur).
Happy Birthday Bubblecar.
Ta :)
I can get a bit mellow tonight because my hairdresser won’t be here until 3:30 tomorrow, by which time any hangover will have faded.
Your sisters all good?
Arts said:
Bubblecar said:
Arts said:Happy Birthday Bubblecar.
Ta :)
I can get a bit mellow tonight because my hairdresser won’t be here until 3:30 tomorrow, by which time any hangover will have faded.
My hairdresser opens next week… she has over 1000 bookings pending… I think I’ll be waiting a while… so I will probably get mellow too, I have reached research saturation for today… got some good words down though, so pleased with that effort.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Arts said:Happy Birthday Bubblecar.
Ta :)
I can get a bit mellow tonight because my hairdresser won’t be here until 3:30 tomorrow, by which time any hangover will have faded.
Your sisters all good?
Not too bad. Older sister’s still having her daily radiation for a while.
The immediately younger sister has re-opened her shop.
Tamb said:
Arts said:
Bubblecar said:Ta :)
I can get a bit mellow tonight because my hairdresser won’t be here until 3:30 tomorrow, by which time any hangover will have faded.
My hairdresser opens next week… she has over 1000 bookings pending… I think I’ll be waiting a while… so I will probably get mellow too, I have reached research saturation for today… got some good words down though, so pleased with that effort.
More importantly. The library opens on Monday. The hair can wait.
You cant put it off much longer unless you want to look like cousin It.
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:Ta :)
I can get a bit mellow tonight because my hairdresser won’t be here until 3:30 tomorrow, by which time any hangover will have faded.
Your sisters all good?
Not too bad. Older sister’s still having her daily radiation for a while.
The immediately younger sister has re-opened her shop.
Jolly good.
I got a bit agitated a bit angry at those mullany……….millnanyial…………..those young’uns calling the Miley Cyrus a boomer remover.
It’s not right.
I think we could all do with a laugh..
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-03/quoll-caught-breaking-into-bottle-shop/12316334
A rare and unusual creature has been caught on camera, breaking into a bottle shop in Far North Queensland.
Key points:
A rare northern quoll has been caught on camera, breaking into a bottle shop
It is thought there are fewer than 100,000 left in the wild
The quoll will be removed by wildlife authorities and returned to the bush
The northern quoll has taken a shine to a bottle-o at the Bungalow Hotel in Cairns, tripping sensor alarms in the middle of the night.
Hotel director Stewart Gibson said he himself had “turned nocturnal” after being woken at all hours over the past week.
“Every night at two, three, four in the morning we’d be getting these calls from our alarm company so I’d drag myself out of bed, go to the bottle shop and no one was there, “ Mr Gibson said.
“I put it down to a faulty alarm system at first.
“On closer inspection, we found we’ve been having a little visitor each night.”
They are also known as the northern native cat, and are not normally seen in city areas.
Mr Gibson said it was only after reviewing security vision, where the quoll could be seen scurrying between shelves of alcohol, that the penny dropped.
“Clearly he likes having a drink at the hotel.”
Mr Gibson said he had contacted environment authorities, and the animal would be relocated to a more suitable place.
“I’m sure he’ll be much happier in the bush,” Mr Gibson said.
“There’s better food there than chips and gravy.”
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:Your sisters all good?
Not too bad. Older sister’s still having her daily radiation for a while.
The immediately younger sister has re-opened her shop.
Jolly good.
I got a bit agitated a bit angry at those mullany……….millnanyial…………..those young’uns calling the Miley Cyrus a boomer remover.
It’s not right.
It’s a bit funny, though.
Still, technically most of those lost seem to be from the previous generation: the so-called Silent Generation born between 1928 and 1945.
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:Not too bad. Older sister’s still having her daily radiation for a while.
The immediately younger sister has re-opened her shop.
Jolly good.
I got a bit agitated a bit angry at those mullany……….millnanyial…………..those young’uns calling the Miley Cyrus a boomer remover.
It’s not right.
It’s a bit funny, though.
Still, technically most of those lost seem to be from the previous generation: the so-called Silent Generation born between 1928 and 1945.
well we don’t hear anyone complaining about that now do we
someone’s got to ax stumps
Arts said:
I think we could all do with a laugh..https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-03/quoll-caught-breaking-into-bottle-shop/12316334
A rare and unusual creature has been caught on camera, breaking into a bottle shop in Far North Queensland.
Key points:
A rare northern quoll has been caught on camera, breaking into a bottle shop
It is thought there are fewer than 100,000 left in the wild
The quoll will be removed by wildlife authorities and returned to the bush
The northern quoll has taken a shine to a bottle-o at the Bungalow Hotel in Cairns, tripping sensor alarms in the middle of the night.Hotel director Stewart Gibson said he himself had “turned nocturnal” after being woken at all hours over the past week.
“Every night at two, three, four in the morning we’d be getting these calls from our alarm company so I’d drag myself out of bed, go to the bottle shop and no one was there, “ Mr Gibson said.
“I put it down to a faulty alarm system at first.
“On closer inspection, we found we’ve been having a little visitor each night.”
They are also known as the northern native cat, and are not normally seen in city areas.
Mr Gibson said it was only after reviewing security vision, where the quoll could be seen scurrying between shelves of alcohol, that the penny dropped.
“Clearly he likes having a drink at the hotel.”
Mr Gibson said he had contacted environment authorities, and the animal would be relocated to a more suitable place.
“I’m sure he’ll be much happier in the bush,” Mr Gibson said.
“There’s better food there than chips and gravy.”
According to Wiki.
………..The hair is singed, the gut is removed (but not the heart or liver) and the cavity packed with bush herbs. It is roasted on hot rocks in a hole.
transition said:
someone’s got to ax stumps
Going to get to -2 tonight but I’m too tired to go out there and prepare firewood, so I’ll rely on the eceltric heater.
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
someone’s got to ax stumps
Going to get to -2 tonight but I’m too tired to go out there and prepare firewood, so I’ll rely on the eceltric heater.
Wear a jumper ya wee bairn
HBBC.
:-)
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
someone’s got to ax stumps
Going to get to -2 tonight but I’m too tired to go out there and prepare firewood, so I’ll rely on the eceltric heater.
It’s not the same, it doesn’t have the primal crackle and flicker or the mild carbon monoxide induced snug feeling.
Peak Warming Man said:
Arts said:
I think we could all do with a laugh..https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-03/quoll-caught-breaking-into-bottle-shop/12316334
A rare and unusual creature has been caught on camera, breaking into a bottle shop in Far North Queensland.
Key points:
A rare northern quoll has been caught on camera, breaking into a bottle shop
It is thought there are fewer than 100,000 left in the wild
The quoll will be removed by wildlife authorities and returned to the bush
The northern quoll has taken a shine to a bottle-o at the Bungalow Hotel in Cairns, tripping sensor alarms in the middle of the night.Hotel director Stewart Gibson said he himself had “turned nocturnal” after being woken at all hours over the past week.
“Every night at two, three, four in the morning we’d be getting these calls from our alarm company so I’d drag myself out of bed, go to the bottle shop and no one was there, “ Mr Gibson said.
“I put it down to a faulty alarm system at first.
“On closer inspection, we found we’ve been having a little visitor each night.”
They are also known as the northern native cat, and are not normally seen in city areas.
Mr Gibson said it was only after reviewing security vision, where the quoll could be seen scurrying between shelves of alcohol, that the penny dropped.
“Clearly he likes having a drink at the hotel.”
Mr Gibson said he had contacted environment authorities, and the animal would be relocated to a more suitable place.
“I’m sure he’ll be much happier in the bush,” Mr Gibson said.
“There’s better food there than chips and gravy.”
According to Wiki.
………..The hair is singed, the gut is removed (but not the heart or liver) and the cavity packed with bush herbs. It is roasted on hot rocks in a hole.
sounds delicious
On a job I did at a mine site east of Darwin, there was a resident northern quoll. Another geologist though it was cute, until it bit him…
At the Hillgrove Gold mine there were lots of Tiger Quolls. One destroyed my lunch-box that I accidentally left overnight in a crib room.
We also had a Tiger quoll living in a hut we used on the Timbarra Gold Project. But the Antechinus’ in season were very annoying at night with their non-stop sexual activities.
Michael V said:
On a job I did at a mine site east of Darwin, there was a resident northern quoll. Another geologist though it was cute, until it bit him…At the Hillgrove Gold mine there were lots of Tiger Quolls. One destroyed my lunch-box that I accidentally left overnight in a crib room.
We also had a Tiger quoll living in a hut we used on the Timbarra Gold Project. But the Antechinus’ in season were very annoying at night with their non-stop sexual activities.
I don’t think I could sleep knowing a quoll or antechinus had access to my sleeping quarters. The pygmy possums in a hut in Tassie were off-putting enough.
Michael V said:
On a job I did at a mine site east of Darwin, there was a resident northern quoll. Another geologist though it was cute, until it bit him…At the Hillgrove Gold mine there were lots of Tiger Quolls. One destroyed my lunch-box that I accidentally left overnight in a crib room.
We also had a Tiger quoll living in a hut we used on the Timbarra Gold Project. But the Antechinus’ in season were very annoying at night with their non-stop sexual activities.
You may sometimes hear a female antechinus crying “Ouch!”
For although she’s a marsupial she’s hardly got a pouch.
Her young hang from her nipples, which is something of a strain,
And since they hang on with their teeth, they cause a bit of pain.
A baby antechinus’s existence isn’t fun:
They bounce along the ground whenever mother has to run.
And father’s life could not be said to be a bed of roses:
He mates when he is one year old, and then turns up his toeses.
In rating beasts I’d rather be, I find that antechinuses
Score not a single plus, and have a multitude of minuses.
btm said:
Michael V said:
On a job I did at a mine site east of Darwin, there was a resident northern quoll. Another geologist though it was cute, until it bit him…At the Hillgrove Gold mine there were lots of Tiger Quolls. One destroyed my lunch-box that I accidentally left overnight in a crib room.
We also had a Tiger quoll living in a hut we used on the Timbarra Gold Project. But the Antechinus’ in season were very annoying at night with their non-stop sexual activities.
You may sometimes hear a female antechinus crying “Ouch!”
For although she’s a marsupial she’s hardly got a pouch.
Her young hang from her nipples, which is something of a strain,
And since they hang on with their teeth, they cause a bit of pain.A baby antechinus’s existence isn’t fun:
They bounce along the ground whenever mother has to run.
And father’s life could not be said to be a bed of roses:
He mates when he is one year old, and then turns up his toeses.In rating beasts I’d rather be, I find that antechinuses
Score not a single plus, and have a multitude of minuses.
:)
Michael V said:
On a job I did at a mine site east of Darwin, there was a resident northern quoll. Another geologist though it was cute, until it bit him…At the Hillgrove Gold mine there were lots of Tiger Quolls. One destroyed my lunch-box that I accidentally left overnight in a crib room.
We also had a Tiger quoll living in a hut we used on the Timbarra Gold Project. But the Antechinus’ in season were very annoying at night with their non-stop sexual activities.
Yeah the Macpherson Ranges are full of them, you know that as soon as you make camp that the tiger quols will be watching (and waiting) ready to raid anything that is not stored away.
btm said:
Michael V said:
On a job I did at a mine site east of Darwin, there was a resident northern quoll. Another geologist though it was cute, until it bit him…At the Hillgrove Gold mine there were lots of Tiger Quolls. One destroyed my lunch-box that I accidentally left overnight in a crib room.
We also had a Tiger quoll living in a hut we used on the Timbarra Gold Project. But the Antechinus’ in season were very annoying at night with their non-stop sexual activities.
You may sometimes hear a female antechinus crying “Ouch!”
For although she’s a marsupial she’s hardly got a pouch.
Her young hang from her nipples, which is something of a strain,
And since they hang on with their teeth, they cause a bit of pain.A baby antechinus’s existence isn’t fun:
They bounce along the ground whenever mother has to run.
And father’s life could not be said to be a bed of roses:
He mates when he is one year old, and then turns up his toeses.In rating beasts I’d rather be, I find that antechinuses
Score not a single plus, and have a multitude of minuses.
Hehe.
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:
On a job I did at a mine site east of Darwin, there was a resident northern quoll. Another geologist though it was cute, until it bit him…At the Hillgrove Gold mine there were lots of Tiger Quolls. One destroyed my lunch-box that I accidentally left overnight in a crib room.
We also had a Tiger quoll living in a hut we used on the Timbarra Gold Project. But the Antechinus’ in season were very annoying at night with their non-stop sexual activities.
Yeah the Macpherson Ranges are full of them, you know that as soon as you make camp that the tiger quols will be watching (and waiting) ready to raid anything that is not stored away.
The Hillgrove mine and Timbarra are geographically similar to the Macpherson Range.
btm said:
Michael V said:
On a job I did at a mine site east of Darwin, there was a resident northern quoll. Another geologist though it was cute, until it bit him…At the Hillgrove Gold mine there were lots of Tiger Quolls. One destroyed my lunch-box that I accidentally left overnight in a crib room.
We also had a Tiger quoll living in a hut we used on the Timbarra Gold Project. But the Antechinus’ in season were very annoying at night with their non-stop sexual activities.
You may sometimes hear a female antechinus crying “Ouch!”
For although she’s a marsupial she’s hardly got a pouch.
Her young hang from her nipples, which is something of a strain,
And since they hang on with their teeth, they cause a bit of pain.A baby antechinus’s existence isn’t fun:
They bounce along the ground whenever mother has to run.
And father’s life could not be said to be a bed of roses:
He mates when he is one year old, and then turns up his toeses.In rating beasts I’d rather be, I find that antechinuses
Score not a single plus, and have a multitude of minuses.
ROFL … yours?
btm said:
Michael V said:
On a job I did at a mine site east of Darwin, there was a resident northern quoll. Another geologist though it was cute, until it bit him…At the Hillgrove Gold mine there were lots of Tiger Quolls. One destroyed my lunch-box that I accidentally left overnight in a crib room.
We also had a Tiger quoll living in a hut we used on the Timbarra Gold Project. But the Antechinus’ in season were very annoying at night with their non-stop sexual activities.
You may sometimes hear a female antechinus crying “Ouch!”
For although she’s a marsupial she’s hardly got a pouch.
Her young hang from her nipples, which is something of a strain,
And since they hang on with their teeth, they cause a bit of pain.A baby antechinus’s existence isn’t fun:
They bounce along the ground whenever mother has to run.
And father’s life could not be said to be a bed of roses:
He mates when he is one year old, and then turns up his toeses.In rating beasts I’d rather be, I find that antechinuses
Score not a single plus, and have a multitude of minuses.
no wonder they are so grumpy.
Someone should sort out Wikipedia wrt to biology, but the problem is that it would be difficult to obtain consensus. I would prefer a hardcore cladistic methodology but there’d be plenty of hippy dippy types telling me to chill out.
Maybe PermeateFree could help me out, he seems to know a fair bit about this.
dv said:
btm said:
Michael V said:
On a job I did at a mine site east of Darwin, there was a resident northern quoll. Another geologist though it was cute, until it bit him…At the Hillgrove Gold mine there were lots of Tiger Quolls. One destroyed my lunch-box that I accidentally left overnight in a crib room.
We also had a Tiger quoll living in a hut we used on the Timbarra Gold Project. But the Antechinus’ in season were very annoying at night with their non-stop sexual activities.
You may sometimes hear a female antechinus crying “Ouch!”
For although she’s a marsupial she’s hardly got a pouch.
Her young hang from her nipples, which is something of a strain,
And since they hang on with their teeth, they cause a bit of pain.A baby antechinus’s existence isn’t fun:
They bounce along the ground whenever mother has to run.
And father’s life could not be said to be a bed of roses:
He mates when he is one year old, and then turns up his toeses.In rating beasts I’d rather be, I find that antechinuses
Score not a single plus, and have a multitude of minuses.
ROFL … yours?

https://dailymammal.com/brown-antechinus-antechinus-stuartii/
dv said:
Someone should sort out Wikipedia wrt to biology, but the problem is that it would be difficult to obtain consensus. I would prefer a hardcore cladistic methodology but there’d be plenty of hippy dippy types telling me to chill out.Maybe PermeateFree could help me out, he seems to know a fair bit about this.
I could probably help out with some pro bono zoological nomenclature work, I’ve studied Latin and have a working knowledge of thistle funnels.
Tonight we’re having potato and leek soup. Never made it before but the Internet recipe says it’s easy.
Divine Angel said:
Tonight we’re having potato and leek soup. Never made it before but the Internet recipe says it’s easy.
And what libation will Madam be having with that?
Sounds fun.
:)
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:
On a job I did at a mine site east of Darwin, there was a resident northern quoll. Another geologist though it was cute, until it bit him…At the Hillgrove Gold mine there were lots of Tiger Quolls. One destroyed my lunch-box that I accidentally left overnight in a crib room.
We also had a Tiger quoll living in a hut we used on the Timbarra Gold Project. But the Antechinus’ in season were very annoying at night with their non-stop sexual activities.
Yeah the Macpherson Ranges are full of them, you know that as soon as you make camp that the tiger quols will be watching (and waiting) ready to raid anything that is not stored away.
The Hillgrove mine and Timbarra are geographically similar to the Macpherson Range.
Shares in Red River Resources look like a bargain.
I just looked up Hillgrove mine, possibly starting it up again.
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:Yeah the Macpherson Ranges are full of them, you know that as soon as you make camp that the tiger quols will be watching (and waiting) ready to raid anything that is not stored away.
The Hillgrove mine and Timbarra are geographically similar to the Macpherson Range.
Shares in Red River Resources look like a bargain.
I just looked up Hillgrove mine, possibly starting it up again.
Still plenty of gold, antimony and some tungsten there. At depth, the antimony and tungsten give out to dominantly gold-bearing lodes. I loved working there, because you could get to see the geology in three dimensions, and therefore work out much of what happened.
Bubblecar said:
Back after a lovely lunch at the Ross sister’s. She also gave me a very fine present (a beautifully embroidered sampler she made) but I can’t have it yet because she’s going to frame it.Now relaxing with a glass of another present (elderflower gin liqueur).
*waves.
no photos of the midlands then..?
Peak Warming Man said:
Divine Angel said:
Tonight we’re having potato and leek soup. Never made it before but the Internet recipe says it’s easy.
And what libation will Madam be having with that?
Sparkling water, sir.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Back after a lovely lunch at the Ross sister’s. She also gave me a very fine present (a beautifully embroidered sampler she made) but I can’t have it yet because she’s going to frame it.Now relaxing with a glass of another present (elderflower gin liqueur).
*waves.
no photos of the midlands then..?
Wasn’t really that kind of outing. Next time I visit Ross I’ll spend the day and go for a good walk around with the camera.
So there is a new medical centre within walking distance that does dental work that I’m legible for now.
My current dennis is at Carindale, quite aways away and he’s not cheap.
He doesn’t take bitcoin only Australian dollars, US dollars or kidneys.
I think I’ll book into the public system and see what happens.
Rule 303 said:
HBBC.:-)
Ta, and to everyone else :)
Poor PF. Will the persecution never end?!?
Witty Rejoinder said:
Poor PF. Will the persecution never end?!?
Questioning something in an article he posts he takes extremely personally…
Peak Warming Man said:
So there is a new medical centre within walking distance that does dental work that I’m legible for now.
My current dennis is at Carindale, quite aways away and he’s not cheap.He doesn’t take bitcoin only Australian dollars, US dollars or kidneys.
I think I’ll book into the public system and see what happens.
Good idea. Worst that can happen is that you go in for an extraction and come out with only one leg.
Peak Warming Man said:
So there is a new medical centre within walking distance that does dental work that I’m legible for now.
My current dennis is at Carindale, quite aways away and he’s not cheap.He doesn’t take bitcoin only Australian dollars, US dollars or kidneys.
I think I’ll book into the public system and see what happens.
Last dental work I had done I did in exchange for a new caricature of the dentist (the one on his surgery wall was from 1979)
Neophyte said:
Peak Warming Man said:
So there is a new medical centre within walking distance that does dental work that I’m legible for now.
My current dennis is at Carindale, quite aways away and he’s not cheap.He doesn’t take bitcoin only Australian dollars, US dollars or kidneys.
I think I’ll book into the public system and see what happens.
Last dental work I had done I did in exchange for a new caricature of the dentist (the one on his surgery wall was from 1979)
Nice deal.
furious said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Poor PF. Will the persecution never end?!?
Questioning something in an article he posts he takes extremely personally…
He’s trolling us all you know. He wields names like ‘arm-chair expert’ and ‘martyr’ as a example of supreme irony. Take that Alannis!
Witty Rejoinder said:
Poor PF. Will the persecution never end?!?
Must admit I do get very sad at the constant destruction of this beautiful country and its unique wildlife. And its done by people like you who accept the benefits and ignore the consequences. I see it every day from all quarters and know it will continue even when I am gone. I see it everyday and it is always painful.
Neo, English band with a French Fashion magazine for a name.
Peak Warming Man said:
Neo, English band with a French Fashion magazine for a name.
Neo is an anagram of one and in the matrix Neo was The One…
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Back after a lovely lunch at the Ross sister’s. She also gave me a very fine present (a beautifully embroidered sampler she made) but I can’t have it yet because she’s going to frame it.Now relaxing with a glass of another present (elderflower gin liqueur).
*waves.
no photos of the midlands then..?
Wasn’t really that kind of outing. Next time I visit Ross I’ll spend the day and go for a good walk around with the camera.
:) It seems like a long time since I have been in the Midlands.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Poor PF. Will the persecution never end?!?
Persecution Forum
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
So there is a new medical centre within walking distance that does dental work that I’m legible for now.
My current dennis is at Carindale, quite aways away and he’s not cheap.He doesn’t take bitcoin only Australian dollars, US dollars or kidneys.
I think I’ll book into the public system and see what happens.
Good idea. Worst that can happen is that you go in for an extraction and come out with only one leg.
LOLs
Neophyte said:
Peak Warming Man said:
So there is a new medical centre within walking distance that does dental work that I’m legible for now.
My current dennis is at Carindale, quite aways away and he’s not cheap.He doesn’t take bitcoin only Australian dollars, US dollars or kidneys.
I think I’ll book into the public system and see what happens.
Last dental work I had done I did in exchange for a new caricature of the dentist (the one on his surgery wall was from 1979)
I think my dentist gets paid too much. His toy is an MV Agusta…
SCIENCE said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Poor PF. Will the persecution never end?!?
Persecution Forum
SCIENCE, did you realise most organisation that have science as part of their name usually have little to do with science? In other words they are trying to look more important than they are.
PermeateFree said:
SCIENCE said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Poor PF. Will the persecution never end?!?
Persecution Forum
SCIENCE, did you realise most organisation that have science as part of their name usually have little to do with science? In other words they are trying to look more important than they are.
Do Or Do Knot
There Is No Tree
dv said:
I wonder if his mother still loves him.
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
I wonder if his mother still loves him.
Doubt it.
Rule 303 said:
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
I wonder if his mother still loves him.
Doubt it.
He’s probably already shot her.
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:
sarahs mum said:I wonder if his mother still loves him.
Doubt it.
He’s probably already shot her.
Umm..shot? yeah, we’ll go with shot…
https://www.bbc.co.uk/music/articles/d37a03cb-41e5-43c8-b88d-8e1f59fd9998
I lost interest halfway through.
Peak Warming Man said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/music/articles/d37a03cb-41e5-43c8-b88d-8e1f59fd9998I lost interest halfway through.
Some of your information will be collected when you play this quiz.
sarahs mum said:
Peak Warming Man said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/music/articles/d37a03cb-41e5-43c8-b88d-8e1f59fd9998I lost interest halfway through.
Some of your information will be collected when you play this quiz.
Ooohh.
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
Peak Warming Man said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/music/articles/d37a03cb-41e5-43c8-b88d-8e1f59fd9998I lost interest halfway through.
Some of your information will be collected when you play this quiz.
Ooohh.
Yeah. I know. everyone knows everything about e already.
Another offering from my sister:
https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/we-the-hard-working-newly-homeschooling-parents-of-america-have-rewritten-the-common-core-standards?fbclid=IwAR1SjCrxvDxeKb8Vnqhd-dVk2wBmPFuKBxXif5FKsf7P4TW39LKKxQGGYss
I think my favourite is the last one:
3-C. Students will learn exactly how irritating, boring, aggravating, and absurd it can be to live through history. They will also learn that attendance in History IRL is mandatory.
My sister thinks her daughter (who is childless) would like:
1-B. Students will learn to solve computer problems on their own, rather than yelling for a grown-up. This is called “inquiry-based learning.”
dv said:
LOLOLOLOL
Unexpected
https://i.imgur.com/3t5I1kM.mp4
PermeateFree said:
Unexpectedhttps://i.imgur.com/3t5I1kM.mp4
ha!
party_pants said:
PermeateFree said:
Unexpectedhttps://i.imgur.com/3t5I1kM.mp4
ha!
There’s been similar “frights” posted here before. They get me every time. If I’d‘ve been having coffee, similar would’ve happened…
Michael V said:
party_pants said:
PermeateFree said:
Unexpectedhttps://i.imgur.com/3t5I1kM.mp4
ha!
There’s been similar “frights” posted here before. They get me every time. If I’d‘ve been having coffee, similar would’ve happened…
If it is given the title “unexpected” it is kind of a warning :)
party_pants said:
Michael V said:
party_pants said:ha!
There’s been similar “frights” posted here before. They get me every time. If I’d‘ve been having coffee, similar would’ve happened…
If it is given the title “unexpected” it is kind of a warning :)
Yeah. But I’m such a sucker…
billy idol’s my work music, in the earphones, made a few cool tunes
watched some interviews with billy other day, on the tube
lady just finished a jumper for oldest grandson
showing off her new pyjama pants there too
wibble
transition said:
lady just finished a jumper for oldest grandson
![]()
showing off her new pyjama pants there too
Will it fit?
Good evening
sarahs mum said:
transition said:
lady just finished a jumper for oldest grandson
![]()
showing off her new pyjama pants there too
Will it fit?
sarahs mum asks will it fit?
mmm think so she says
monkey skipper said:
Good evening
Oh, FFS, what do you want now?
:)
what puzzles ya doing I ask
i’m entering a That’s Life competition because i’m a winner she responds
sibeen said:
monkey skipper said:
Good evening
Oh, FFS, what do you want now?
:)
Just relaxing.
I worked in the morning wearing one hat and then headed out to the other job for the afternoon , came back , caught up on the paperwork. I have been playing some music as well. How about you?
Feck … winter has arrived too!!!
monkey skipper said:
sibeen said:
monkey skipper said:
Good evening
Oh, FFS, what do you want now?
:)
Just relaxing.
I worked in the morning wearing one hat and then headed out to the other job for the afternoon , came back , caught up on the paperwork. I have been playing some music as well. How about you?
burp
It was 20th wedding anniversary so SWMBO and I went out for a nice dinner. Came home and shared some wine with the kids. She was tired so is now in bed snoring blissfully sleeping A good day all round :)
sibeen said:
monkey skipper said:
sibeen said:Oh, FFS, what do you want now?
:)
Just relaxing.
I worked in the morning wearing one hat and then headed out to the other job for the afternoon , came back , caught up on the paperwork. I have been playing some music as well. How about you?
burp
It was 20th wedding anniversary so SWMBO and I went out for a nice dinner. Came home and shared some wine with the kids. She was tired so is now in bed
snoringblissfully sleeping A good day all round :)
Congrats to both!
Glad your celebrations were satisfactory, sibeen.
Congrats to sibeen,
and happy birthday Mr Car.
transition said:
sarahs mum said:
transition said:
lady just finished a jumper for oldest grandson
![]()
showing off her new pyjama pants there too
Will it fit?
sarahs mum asks will it fit?
mmm think so she says
:)
transition said:
what puzzles ya doing I aski’m entering a That’s Life competition because i’m a winner she responds
got to be in it to win it.
I used to all the crossword and puzzle books at one stage. I did fast crosswords.
Now my eyes don’t do it and I just play on line words with friends.
party_pants said:
Congrats to sibeen,and happy birthday Mr Car.
Ta, I had a pleasant day. I’m now having a few drinks while watching The Woman Eater (1958), an atmospheric low-budget British chiller involving a mad scientist and a woman-eating plant.
sibeen said:
monkey skipper said:
sibeen said:Oh, FFS, what do you want now?
:)
Just relaxing.
I worked in the morning wearing one hat and then headed out to the other job for the afternoon , came back , caught up on the paperwork. I have been playing some music as well. How about you?
burp
It was 20th wedding anniversary so SWMBO and I went out for a nice dinner. Came home and shared some wine with the kids. She was tired so is now in bed
snoringblissfully sleeping A good day all round :)
I’m glad it was good. well done.
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
Congrats to sibeen,and happy birthday Mr Car.
Ta, I had a pleasant day. I’m now having a few drinks while watching The Woman Eater (1958), an atmospheric low-budget British chiller involving a mad scientist and a woman-eating plant.
I was going to start a thread, but I forgot. Glad you had a good day. I’m still eating the remains o f my birthday cake instead of lunch. I have one slice left.
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
Congrats to sibeen,and happy birthday Mr Car.
Ta, I had a pleasant day. I’m now having a few drinks while watching The Woman Eater (1958), an atmospheric low-budget British chiller involving a mad scientist and a woman-eating plant.
I was going to start a thread, but I forgot. Glad you had a good day. I’m still eating the remains o f my birthday cake instead of lunch. I have one slice left.
Goodo. I didn’t get a birthday cake cake as such but it was a fine lunch at the youngest sister’s place.
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:Ta, I had a pleasant day. I’m now having a few drinks while watching The Woman Eater (1958), an atmospheric low-budget British chiller involving a mad scientist and a woman-eating plant.
I was going to start a thread, but I forgot. Glad you had a good day. I’m still eating the remains o f my birthday cake instead of lunch. I have one slice left.
Goodo. I didn’t get a birthday cake cake as such but it was a fine lunch at the youngest sister’s place.
cake cake = cake
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:I was going to start a thread, but I forgot. Glad you had a good day. I’m still eating the remains o f my birthday cake instead of lunch. I have one slice left.
Goodo. I didn’t get a birthday cake cake as such but it was a fine lunch at the youngest sister’s place.
cake cake = cake
haha – I’m the biggest offender at double words here, so I’m nobody to complain.
party_pants said:
Congrats to sibeen,and happy birthday Mr Car.
Sorry, was off thrashing the children before they went to bed; they do so hate to wait.
I just played ‘pleather’ in words with friends and I feel bad about it.
sarahs mum said:
I just played ‘pleather’ in words with friends and I feel bad about it.
I had to look it up. I’d be…….
have another apple I reckon
sarahs mum said:
I just played ‘pleather’ in words with friends and I feel bad about it.
Ooh, slang term.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
I just played ‘pleather’ in words with friends and I feel bad about it.
Ooh, slang term.
It’s not my fault it was accepted.
Life saving tip.
A tap washer is the exact right size to fit snugly inside the neck of a wine bottle.
Well, it saved me.
Morning, dark and cold in the Styx
Poik wins…
Good morning Holidayers. Two degrees here and starting to get light. Forecast is for a sunny 13. That should be a really nice day.
Already 12 here, going for a sunny and dry top of 21.
Feel pretty crappy though, a mix of physical PMS symptoms + Mini Me’s cold.
mollwollfumble said:
Life saving tip.A tap washer is the exact right size to fit snugly inside the neck of a wine bottle.
Well, it saved me.
May we ask how this tip saved your life?
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
I just played ‘pleather’ in words with friends and I feel bad about it.
Ooh, slang term.
The Internet says its a proper word.
Very old too.
Been around since at least 1982.
The Rev Dodgson said:
mollwollfumble said:
Life saving tip.A tap washer is the exact right size to fit snugly inside the neck of a wine bottle.
Well, it saved me.
May we ask how this tip saved your life?
Reduced the amount of wine that could flow?
Arts said:
I think we could all do with a laugh..https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-03/quoll-caught-breaking-into-bottle-shop/12316334
A rare and unusual creature has been caught on camera, breaking into a bottle shop in Far North Queensland.
Key points:
A rare northern quoll has been caught on camera, breaking into a bottle shop
It is thought there are fewer than 100,000 left in the wild
The quoll will be removed by wildlife authorities and returned to the bush
The northern quoll has taken a shine to a bottle-o at the Bungalow Hotel in Cairns, tripping sensor alarms in the middle of the night.Hotel director Stewart Gibson said he himself had “turned nocturnal” after being woken at all hours over the past week.
“Every night at two, three, four in the morning we’d be getting these calls from our alarm company so I’d drag myself out of bed, go to the bottle shop and no one was there, “ Mr Gibson said.
“I put it down to a faulty alarm system at first.
“On closer inspection, we found we’ve been having a little visitor each night.”
They are also known as the northern native cat, and are not normally seen in city areas.
Mr Gibson said it was only after reviewing security vision, where the quoll could be seen scurrying between shelves of alcohol, that the penny dropped.
“Clearly he likes having a drink at the hotel.”
Mr Gibson said he had contacted environment authorities, and the animal would be relocated to a more suitable place.
“I’m sure he’ll be much happier in the bush,” Mr Gibson said.
“There’s better food there than chips and gravy.”
Well there would be if we hadn’t ruined the ecosystems everywhere.
Divine Angel said:
Already 12 here, going for a sunny and dry top of 21.Feel pretty crappy though, a mix of physical PMS symptoms + Mini Me’s cold.
Morning all.
20° > 24.
Cairns in winter.
I don’t understand people.
It’s not that cold in Brissy today. On the school drop off, there were people dressed like it was snowing, yet they wore thongs on their feet. Some parents were rugged up in thick coats, beanies and gloves while their kids were bare-legged and wearing a jumper.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
I just played ‘pleather’ in words with friends and I feel bad about it.
Ooh, slang term.
The Internet says its a proper word.
Very old too.
Been around since at least 1982.
Tamb said:
Divine Angel said:
Already 12 here, going for a sunny and dry top of 21.Feel pretty crappy though, a mix of physical PMS symptoms + Mini Me’s cold.
Morning all.
20° > 24.
Cairns in winter.
2.4˚> 16˚ here
Divine Angel said:
I don’t understand people.It’s not that cold in Brissy today. On the school drop off, there were people dressed like it was snowing, yet they wore thongs on their feet. Some parents were rugged up in thick coats, beanies and gloves while their kids were bare-legged and wearing a jumper.
it was like that in Melbourne in September too
Tamb said:
Divine Angel said:
Already 12 here, going for a sunny and dry top of 21.Feel pretty crappy though, a mix of physical PMS symptoms + Mini Me’s cold.
Morning all.
20° > 24.
Cairns in winter.
Mathematical conundrum?
Michael V said:
Tamb said:
Divine Angel said:
Already 12 here, going for a sunny and dry top of 21.Feel pretty crappy though, a mix of physical PMS symptoms + Mini Me’s cold.
Morning all.
20° > 24.
Cairns in winter.
Mathematical conundrum?
not if it’s absolutely 0 K
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
Tamb said:Morning all.
20° > 24.
Cairns in winter.
Mathematical conundrum?
not if it’s absolutely 0 K
In degrees Absolute it would be 293 > 297
Tamb said:
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:Mathematical conundrum?
not if it’s absolutely 0 K
In degrees Absolute it would be 293 > 297
Still a mathematical conundrum.
Michael V said:
Tamb said:
SCIENCE said:not if it’s absolutely 0 K
In degrees Absolute it would be 293 > 297
Still a mathematical conundrum.
It is due to the IT conundrum that if you use the correct character, it makes the text disappear.
This is the Australian police in action. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh7Dsj44UwM
roughbarked said:
This is the Australian police in action. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh7Dsj44UwM
Turns out is also the ABC interesting video channel.
Michael V said:
Tamb said:
SCIENCE said:not if it’s absolutely 0 K
In degrees Absolute it would be 293 > 297
Still a mathematical conundrum.
Because 293 is not greater than 297.
Michael V said:
Michael V said:
Tamb said:In degrees Absolute it would be 293 > 297
Still a mathematical conundrum.
Because 293 is not greater than 297.
Understood…
Michael V said:
Michael V said:
Tamb said:In degrees Absolute it would be 293 > 297
Still a mathematical conundrum.
Because 293 is not greater than 297.
now slow down egghead
Michael V said:
Michael V said:
Tamb said:In degrees Absolute it would be 293 > 297
Still a mathematical conundrum.
Because 293 is not greater than 297.
OK. I was being lazy. Should have said 293 → 297
Tamb said:
Michael V said:
Michael V said:Still a mathematical conundrum.
Because 293 is not greater than 297.
OK. I was being lazy. Should have said 293 → 297
:)
Hello
roughbarked said:
Arts said:
I think we could all do with a laugh..https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-03/quoll-caught-breaking-into-bottle-shop/12316334
A rare and unusual creature has been caught on camera, breaking into a bottle shop in Far North Queensland.
Key points:
A rare northern quoll has been caught on camera, breaking into a bottle shop
It is thought there are fewer than 100,000 left in the wild
The quoll will be removed by wildlife authorities and returned to the bush
The northern quoll has taken a shine to a bottle-o at the Bungalow Hotel in Cairns, tripping sensor alarms in the middle of the night.Hotel director Stewart Gibson said he himself had “turned nocturnal” after being woken at all hours over the past week.
“Every night at two, three, four in the morning we’d be getting these calls from our alarm company so I’d drag myself out of bed, go to the bottle shop and no one was there, “ Mr Gibson said.
“I put it down to a faulty alarm system at first.
“On closer inspection, we found we’ve been having a little visitor each night.”
They are also known as the northern native cat, and are not normally seen in city areas.
Mr Gibson said it was only after reviewing security vision, where the quoll could be seen scurrying between shelves of alcohol, that the penny dropped.
“Clearly he likes having a drink at the hotel.”
Mr Gibson said he had contacted environment authorities, and the animal would be relocated to a more suitable place.
“I’m sure he’ll be much happier in the bush,” Mr Gibson said.
“There’s better food there than chips and gravy.”
Well there would be if we hadn’t ruined the ecosystems everywhere.
I can see a new beverage being named after that
northern quoll
Cymek said:
Hello
>nods<
dv said:
Good call.
Tamb said:
Michael V said:
Michael V said:Still a mathematical conundrum.
Because 293 is not greater than 297.
OK. I was being lazy. Should have said 293 → 297
Looks like I just got here in time.
Michael V said:
Tamb said:
Michael V said:Because 293 is not greater than 297.
OK. I was being lazy. Should have said 293 → 297
:)
But 20° (C, F, R, N, D, etc — pick your favourite temperature scale) is > 24 kelvin.
Just watched this again, still raises a smile:
btm said:
Michael V said:
Tamb said:OK. I was being lazy. Should have said 293 → 297
:)
But 20° (C, F, R, N, D, etc — pick your favourite temperature scale) is > 24 kelvin.
K was not specified…
Michael V said:
btm said:
Michael V said::)
But 20° (C, F, R, N, D, etc — pick your favourite temperature scale) is > 24 kelvin.
K was not specified…
Then what are 293 and 197?
btm said:
Michael V said:
btm said:But 20° (C, F, R, N, D, etc — pick your favourite temperature scale) is > 24 kelvin.
K was not specified…
Then what are 293 and 297?
Fixed
The Rev Dodgson said:
Just watched this again, still raises a smile:
Absolutely.
btm said:
Michael V said:
btm said:But 20° (C, F, R, N, D, etc — pick your favourite temperature scale) is > 24 kelvin.
K was not specified…
Then what are 293 and 197?
490…
btm said:
btm said:
Michael V said:K was not specified…
Then what are 293 and 297?
Fixed
590…
Rule 303 said:
dv said:
Good call.
Absolutely.
Looks interesting, might watch it later:
Michael V said:
btm said:
Michael V said::)
But 20° (C, F, R, N, D, etc — pick your favourite temperature scale) is > 24 kelvin.
K was not specified…
Peak Warming Man said:
Rule 303 said:
dv said:
Good call.
Absolutely.
Paul stands tall.
Tamb said:
Michael V said:
btm said:But 20° (C, F, R, N, D, etc — pick your favourite temperature scale) is > 24 kelvin.
K was not specified…
I did mention degrees Absolute.
I saw that happen.
Michael V said:
btm said:
Michael V said::)
But 20° (C, F, R, N, D, etc — pick your favourite temperature scale) is > 24 kelvin.
K was not specified…
Absolutely.
Tamb said:
Michael V said:
btm said:But 20° (C, F, R, N, D, etc — pick your favourite temperature scale) is > 24 kelvin.
K was not specified…
I did mention degrees Absolute.
It’s all OK. I knew what you meant.
My joke seems to have failed.
dv said:
The difference is, Paul, that you can recover from the flu. A higher percentage of people who get the flu recover than do gunshot victims/
As well, when flu victims recover, they haven’t had parts of their anatomy blasted away forever.
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
The difference is, Paul, that you can recover from the flu. A higher percentage of people who get the flu recover than do gunshot victims/
As well, when flu victims recover, they haven’t had parts of their anatomy blasted away forever.
All good but you missed the sattire.
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
The difference is, Paul, that you can recover from the flu. A higher percentage of people who get the flu recover than do gunshot victims/
As well, when flu victims recover, they haven’t had parts of their anatomy blasted away forever.
And the riots will produce gunshot victims aplenty.
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
The difference is, Paul, that you can recover from the flu. A higher percentage of people who get the flu recover than do gunshot victims/
As well, when flu victims recover, they haven’t had parts of their anatomy blasted away forever.
Absolutely.
Michael V said:
Tamb said:
Michael V said:K was not specified…
I did mention degrees Absolute.It’s all OK. I knew what you meant.
My joke seems to have failed.
No, I got it from the very beginning. Do not be discouraged…
looks like a nice morning for a walk
captain_spalding said:
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
The difference is, Paul, that you can recover from the flu. A higher percentage of people who get the flu recover than do gunshot victims/
As well, when flu victims recover, they haven’t had parts of their anatomy blasted away forever.
And the riots will produce gunshot victims aplenty.
btm said:
Michael V said:
Tamb said:OK. I was being lazy. Should have said 293 → 297
:)
But 20° (C, F, R, N, D, etc — pick your favourite temperature scale) is > 24 kelvin.
cough
20° R = 11.1°K
cough
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-03/government-coronavirus-construction-stimulus-renovations-25k/12317786
No help for the poor. Again. Requiring $150,000 minimum project cost means this is no help at all for people who might want a bit of help with, for instance, upgrading a bathroom for minor disability, installing a ramp and verandah for similar reasons (or for a pram). This money could go a lot further in small amounts to more people.
furious said:
Michael V said:
Tamb said:I did mention degrees Absolute.
It’s all OK. I knew what you meant.
My joke seems to have failed.
No, I got it from the very beginning. Do not be discouraged…
:)
Ta.
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-03/government-coronavirus-construction-stimulus-renovations-25k/12317786No help for the poor. Again. Requiring $150,000 minimum project cost means this is no help at all for people who might want a bit of help with, for instance, upgrading a bathroom for minor disability, installing a ramp and verandah for similar reasons (or for a pram). This money could go a lot further in small amounts to more people.
Well, I could do a lot with $2,500 if only they’d lower the minimum spend ceiling.
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-03/government-coronavirus-construction-stimulus-renovations-25k/12317786No help for the poor. Again. Requiring $150,000 minimum project cost means this is no help at all for people who might want a bit of help with, for instance, upgrading a bathroom for minor disability, installing a ramp and verandah for similar reasons (or for a pram). This money could go a lot further in small amounts to more people.
There are agencies that already do the small disability independent living modifications.
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-03/government-coronavirus-construction-stimulus-renovations-25k/12317786No help for the poor. Again. Requiring $150,000 minimum project cost means this is no help at all for people who might want a bit of help with, for instance, upgrading a bathroom for minor disability, installing a ramp and verandah for similar reasons (or for a pram). This money could go a lot further in small amounts to more people.
Just looking at that. Seems like the government are trying to use the “trickle down” effect where the well to do provide the jobs and the poor provide the labour…
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-03/government-coronavirus-construction-stimulus-renovations-25k/12317786No help for the poor. Again. Requiring $150,000 minimum project cost means this is no help at all for people who might want a bit of help with, for instance, upgrading a bathroom for minor disability, installing a ramp and verandah for similar reasons (or for a pram). This money could go a lot further in small amounts to more people.
Well, I could do a lot with $2,500 if only they’d lower the minimum spend ceiling.
I knew there’d be a catch somewhere.
Arts said:
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-03/government-coronavirus-construction-stimulus-renovations-25k/12317786No help for the poor. Again. Requiring $150,000 minimum project cost means this is no help at all for people who might want a bit of help with, for instance, upgrading a bathroom for minor disability, installing a ramp and verandah for similar reasons (or for a pram). This money could go a lot further in small amounts to more people.
There are agencies that already do the small disability independent living modifications.
But I’m meaning people not disabled, but getting older. Or pregnant and thinking about getting in and out of the house with a baby. We have factored such things into our renovations over the years.
Michael V said:
furious said:
Michael V said:It’s all OK. I knew what you meant.
My joke seems to have failed.
No, I got it from the very beginning. Do not be discouraged…
:)
Ta.
I didn’t get it; sorry MV, I’m a bit thick today. (Just today?)
Also, sibeen pointed out the flaw in my argument anyway.
buffy said:
Arts said:
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-03/government-coronavirus-construction-stimulus-renovations-25k/12317786No help for the poor. Again. Requiring $150,000 minimum project cost means this is no help at all for people who might want a bit of help with, for instance, upgrading a bathroom for minor disability, installing a ramp and verandah for similar reasons (or for a pram). This money could go a lot further in small amounts to more people.
There are agencies that already do the small disability independent living modifications.
But I’m meaning people not disabled, but getting older. Or pregnant and thinking about getting in and out of the house with a baby. We have factored such things into our renovations over the years.
Again, for getting older there are agencies. As for pregnant women, What? Who needs to modify their house because they are pregnant? Jesus. People,work that shit out without modifying homes.
Something like changing a bathroom to a wetroom design would be a good idea for people, reducing their dependence on outside help, and promoting independence in ablutions, but you certainly wouldn’t be spending $175,000 to do that sort of thing. Or something simple like fixing all the floor coverings in the house to reduce trip hazards (rugs). Surely better for the government to help people help themselves than have to rely on charities and other organizations to take the load.
I may mix with too many poor people. I simply can’t see what is offered being a lot of use to anyone that I know
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-03/government-coronavirus-construction-stimulus-renovations-25k/12317786No help for the poor. Again. Requiring $150,000 minimum project cost means this is no help at all for people who might want a bit of help with, for instance, upgrading a bathroom for minor disability, installing a ramp and verandah for similar reasons (or for a pram). This money could go a lot further in small amounts to more people.
Arts said:
buffy said:
Arts said:There are agencies that already do the small disability independent living modifications.
But I’m meaning people not disabled, but getting older. Or pregnant and thinking about getting in and out of the house with a baby. We have factored such things into our renovations over the years.
Again, for getting older there are agencies. As for pregnant women, What? Who needs to modify their house because they are pregnant? Jesus. People,work that shit out without modifying homes.
Can you give me a link for these agencies that will pay for fixing our front steps for us?
Thanks.
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-03/government-coronavirus-construction-stimulus-renovations-25k/12317786No help for the poor. Again. Requiring $150,000 minimum project cost means this is no help at all for people who might want a bit of help with, for instance, upgrading a bathroom for minor disability, installing a ramp and verandah for similar reasons (or for a pram). This money could go a lot further in small amounts to more people.
Why? Plenty of money for the tradies in the small jobs.
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-03/government-coronavirus-construction-stimulus-renovations-25k/12317786No help for the poor. Again. Requiring $150,000 minimum project cost means this is no help at all for people who might want a bit of help with, for instance, upgrading a bathroom for minor disability, installing a ramp and verandah for similar reasons (or for a pram). This money could go a lot further in small amounts to more people.
Why? Plenty of money for the tradies in the small jobs.
If they did a 1 to 1 matching on a lower amount for more people you would get a lot more money into the hands of tradies…
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-03/government-coronavirus-construction-stimulus-renovations-25k/12317786No help for the poor. Again. Requiring $150,000 minimum project cost means this is no help at all for people who might want a bit of help with, for instance, upgrading a bathroom for minor disability, installing a ramp and verandah for similar reasons (or for a pram). This money could go a lot further in small amounts to more people.
Why? Plenty of money for the tradies in the small jobs.
Yeah, the whole thing looks like it’s just aimed to give a nice little bonus for Lib party supporters. I mean how many people are going to start a new house because of a 10% reduction.
More money into tech training and apprentices would be a better move.
buffy said:
Something like changing a bathroom to a wetroom design would be a good idea for people, reducing their dependence on outside help, and promoting independence in ablutions, but you certainly wouldn’t be spending $175,000 to do that sort of thing. Or something simple like fixing all the floor coverings in the house to reduce trip hazards (rugs). Surely better for the government to help people help themselves than have to rely on charities and other organizations to take the load.I may mix with too many poor people. I simply can’t see what is offered being a lot of use to anyone that I know
It seems to me to be a good way of winkling money out of people who can afford to spend (whether using borrowings or savings).
The Rev Dodgson said:
Arts said:
buffy said:But I’m meaning people not disabled, but getting older. Or pregnant and thinking about getting in and out of the house with a baby. We have factored such things into our renovations over the years.
Again, for getting older there are agencies. As for pregnant women, What? Who needs to modify their house because they are pregnant? Jesus. People,work that shit out without modifying homes.
Can you give me a link for these agencies that will pay for fixing our front steps for us?
Thanks.
It would depend on your state. Silver chain does a lot of stuff here. I don’t know if it’s state based or nationwide.
The Rev Dodgson said:
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Why? Plenty of money for the tradies in the small jobs.
Yeah, the whole thing looks like it’s just aimed to give a nice little bonus for Lib party supporters. I mean how many people are going to start a new house because of a 10% reduction.
More money into tech training and apprentices would be a better move.
SWMBO works in the raining and apprenticeship area and apprentice starts in Victoria for year to date are down about 50% on the corresponding time last year.
Arts said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Arts said:Again, for getting older there are agencies. As for pregnant women, What? Who needs to modify their house because they are pregnant? Jesus. People,work that shit out without modifying homes.
Can you give me a link for these agencies that will pay for fixing our front steps for us?
Thanks.
It would depend on your state. Silver chain does a lot of stuff here. I don’t know if it’s state based or nationwide.
Thanks.
I suspect we might be too filthy rich, but it’s worth looking into anyway.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Arts said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Can you give me a link for these agencies that will pay for fixing our front steps for us?
Thanks.
It would depend on your state. Silver chain does a lot of stuff here. I don’t know if it’s state based or nationwide.
Thanks.
I suspect we might be too filthy rich, but it’s worth looking into anyway.
Are you married to a weather girl?
The Rev Dodgson said:
Arts said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Can you give me a link for these agencies that will pay for fixing our front steps for us?
Thanks.
It would depend on your state. Silver chain does a lot of stuff here. I don’t know if it’s state based or nationwide.
Thanks.
I suspect we might be too filthy rich, but it’s worth looking into anyway.
Probably.
So, the coals and ash left in the fire pit… can/should I use that on my garden?
Arts said:
It would depend on your state.
I’m a bit wobbly
Arts said:
So, the coals and ash left in the fire pit… can/should I use that on my garden?
Absolutely.
Peak Warming Man said:
Arts said:
So, the coals and ash left in the fire pit… can/should I use that on my garden?
Absolutely.
Probably similar to bio char
Arts said:
So, the coals and ash left in the fire pit… can/should I use that on my garden?
Depends what you cremated.
Arts said:
So, the coals and ash left in the fire pit… can/should I use that on my garden?
Yes, you can and should (unless you were burning something containing arsenic, or lead or other heavy metals). The coals should be crushed (without breathing the dust). The finer the charcoal is divided, the better it is for the garden.
Divine Angel said:
Arts said:
So, the coals and ash left in the fire pit… can/should I use that on my garden?
Depends what you cremated.
Divine Angel said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Arts said:It would depend on your state. Silver chain does a lot of stuff here. I don’t know if it’s state based or nationwide.
Thanks.
I suspect we might be too filthy rich, but it’s worth looking into anyway.
Are you married to a weather girl?
Well she is to me :)
Michael V said:
Arts said:
So, the coals and ash left in the fire pit… can/should I use that on my garden?
Yes, you can and should (unless you were burning something containing arsenic, or lead or other heavy metals). The coals should be crushed (without breathing the dust). The finer the charcoal is divided, the better it is for the garden.
Michael V said:
Arts said:
So, the coals and ash left in the fire pit… can/should I use that on my garden?
Yes, you can and should (unless you were burning something containing arsenic, or lead or other heavy metals). The coals should be crushed (without breathing the dust). The finer the charcoal is divided, the better it is for the garden.
Re arsenic and similar. Fence palings and other outdoor timber (such as treated pine) contains nasties like that. Only use ashes from garden waste, kitchen waste, or timber that shows signs of rotting.
Divine Angel said:
Arts said:
So, the coals and ash left in the fire pit… can/should I use that on my garden?
Depends what you cremated.
Absolutely.
Just so you know.
A tap washer fits snugly into the neck of a wine bottle.
I really needed to discover that.
Arts said:
Michael V said:
Arts said:
So, the coals and ash left in the fire pit… can/should I use that on my garden?
Yes, you can and should (unless you were burning something containing arsenic, or lead or other heavy metals). The coals should be crushed (without breathing the dust). The finer the charcoal is divided, the better it is for the garden.
Thanks. There’s some google contention about the alkalinity of the soil we have.. apparently perth ranges are quite large. I will look into that further.
The ash contains potassium. (Potash…)
It would work even better if it were all (including the crushed coals) mixed into the compost for a while – at least a couple of weeks.
mollwollfumble said:
Just so you know.A tap washer fits snugly into the neck of a wine bottle.
I really needed to discover that.
Moll Moll……….over here…………..
it’s got a hole in it
Peak Warming Man said:
mollwollfumble said:
Just so you know.A tap washer fits snugly into the neck of a wine bottle.
I really needed to discover that.
Moll Moll……….over here…………..
it’s got a hole in it
I’m sure with some more research and discussion we can solve the mystery of the significance of the tap washer in wine bottle phenomenon.
mollwollfumble said:
Just so you know.A tap washer fits snugly into the neck of a wine bottle.
I really needed to discover that.
What the dickens are you up to?
Arts said:
So, the coals and ash left in the fire pit… can/should I use that on my garden?
Not on everything. Plants that prefer acidic soils probably not – things like potatoes, sweet potatoes.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:
mollwollfumble said:
Just so you know.A tap washer fits snugly into the neck of a wine bottle.
I really needed to discover that.
Moll Moll……….over here…………..
it’s got a hole in it
I’m sure with some more research and discussion we can solve the mystery of the significance of the tap washer in wine bottle phenomenon.
> What the dickens are you up to?
LOL, I bated you on that one. Thanks for responding.
mrs m has a wine bottle with a covering of mosaic that was bought as a lamp base about 40 years ago. The fittings died rather fast and this is my third attempt over 20 years of fixing it. The two previous attempts failed miserably. By drilling out the centre of a tap washer I was able (with a lot of effort, this is a tough rubber), to enlarge the hole enough to screw an electrical fitting through it.
Fingers crossed.
Michael V said:
Arts said:
So, the coals and ash left in the fire pit… can/should I use that on my garden?
Yes, you can and should (unless you were burning something containing arsenic, or lead or other heavy metals). The coals should be crushed (without breathing the dust). The finer the charcoal is divided, the better it is for the garden.
Or you could add water and sodium hydroxide and a little heat; that’d give you soap, though you’d need to filter out the dirt.
btm said:
Michael V said:
Arts said:
So, the coals and ash left in the fire pit… can/should I use that on my garden?
Yes, you can and should (unless you were burning something containing arsenic, or lead or other heavy metals). The coals should be crushed (without breathing the dust). The finer the charcoal is divided, the better it is for the garden.
Or you could add water and sodium hydroxide and a little heat; that’d give you soap, though you’d need to filter out the dirt.
Sorry, not HaOH, add animal fat or vegetable oil.
btm said:
Michael V said:
Arts said:
So, the coals and ash left in the fire pit… can/should I use that on my garden?
Yes, you can and should (unless you were burning something containing arsenic, or lead or other heavy metals). The coals should be crushed (without breathing the dust). The finer the charcoal is divided, the better it is for the garden.
Or you could add water and sodium hydroxide and a little heat; that’d give you soap, though you’d need to filter out the dirt.
Soap containing arsenic and heavy metals. That might be really effective at keeping hands clean.
mollwollfumble said:
> What the dickens are you up to?
LOL, I bated you on that one. Thanks for responding.
I live but to serve
thanks for the garden tips all… I will begin the experiments.
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-03/government-coronavirus-construction-stimulus-renovations-25k/12317786No help for the poor. Again. Requiring $150,000 minimum project cost means this is no help at all for people who might want a bit of help with, for instance, upgrading a bathroom for minor disability, installing a ramp and verandah for similar reasons (or for a pram). This money could go a lot further in small amounts to more people.
Well, I could do a lot with $2,500 if only they’d lower the minimum spend ceiling.
we thought similarly to both above when we read the article
Federal Liberal are fkwts
why does e everyone think I am burning something laced with arsenic? I need a much hotter and longer lasting fire to burn incriminating evidence if I don’t want to be caught… sheesh. I’m not an idiot.
Arts said:
why does e everyone think I am burning something laced with arsenic? I need a much hotter and longer lasting fire to burn incriminating evidence if I don’t want to be caught… sheesh. I’m not an idiot.
Sorry, missed the beginning of the discussion. Have no idea what you are burning.
Arts said:
why does e everyone think I am burning something laced with arsenic? I need a much hotter and longer lasting fire to burn incriminating evidence if I don’t want to be caught… sheesh. I’m not an idiot.
Absolutely.
Arts said:
why does e everyone think I am burning something laced with arsenic? I need a much hotter and longer lasting fire to burn incriminating evidence if I don’t want to be caught… sheesh. I’m not an idiot.
So clearly you’ve thought this through…
Arts said:
thanks for the garden tips all… I will begin the experiments.
I’ve been using (ash + coals) added to compost since the early 1980s.
Michael V said:
Arts said:
thanks for the garden tips all… I will begin the experiments.
I’ve been using (ash + coals) added to compost since the early 1980s.
Is ash from the wood stove/heater good for tomatoe plants?
mollwollfumble said:
btm said:
Michael V said:Yes, you can and should (unless you were burning something containing arsenic, or lead or other heavy metals). The coals should be crushed (without breathing the dust). The finer the charcoal is divided, the better it is for the garden.
Or you could add water and sodium hydroxide and a little heat; that’d give you soap, though you’d need to filter out the dirt.
Soap containing arsenic and heavy metals. That might be really effective at keeping hands clean.
try injecting it, they say it’s really good for the virus, really good
SCIENCE said:
mollwollfumble said:
btm said:Or you could add water and sodium hydroxide and a little heat; that’d give you soap, though you’d need to filter out the dirt.
Soap containing arsenic and heavy metals. That might be really effective at keeping hands clean.
try injecting it, they say it’s really good for the virus, really good
Absolutely.
also did anyone else point out already that absolute temperature units do not call “degrees”
Arts said:
So, the coals and ash left in the fire pit… can/should I use that on my garden?
I make my paths in the garden beds with the ash from the woodheater. In the veggie patch these paths move about as I change the beds and rotate crops. So the ash sits for a while and then gets dug in some months later. Seems to work quite well.
SCIENCE said:
also did anyone else point out already that absolute temperature units do not call “degrees”
buffy said:
Arts said:
So, the coals and ash left in the fire pit… can/should I use that on my garden?
I make my paths in the garden beds with the ash from the woodheater. In the veggie patch these paths move about as I change the beds and rotate crops. So the ash sits for a while and then gets dug in some months later. Seems to work quite well.
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:
Arts said:
thanks for the garden tips all… I will begin the experiments.
I’ve been using (ash + coals) added to compost since the early 1980s.
Is ash from the wood stove/heater good for tomatoe plants?
Yes. Apparently ash promotes flowering. I just use it for the pathways or chuck it into the compost bin (after it has cooled down).
I think I used to put it under the lemon tree at one stage too. But it doesn’t need encouragement now.
I should joosh up the roasted tomatoes/onion/garlic into soup for lunch.
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:
Arts said:
thanks for the garden tips all… I will begin the experiments.
I’ve been using (ash + coals) added to compost since the early 1980s.
Is ash from the wood stove/heater good for tomatoe plants?
I’m not sure of the requirements for tomatoes, nor you soil pH, so I can’t make a recommendation about your tomatoes.
As I suggested, mix the ash and remaining coals with compost, and give it at least a couple of weeks, before using it on the garden.
In Armidale, I used to dump the firebox remnants into the chook pen. The ash was used by the chooks to rid themselves of bird lice. All organic waste (kitchen waste, lawn clippings, weedings, prunings etc) was dumped in there too. It was spread around, pooed over and became a lovely organic garden addition.
Here, fire ash and coals go into the compost bins (as does all other organic waste). Ash: straight in and watered. I smash the coals in a polyweave bag, (drive the car over it a few times), empty them into a 25 L bucket of water and throw a handful of rooster booster in. I let that soak for a week or so, before mixing it into active compost. I let all that rot down before using it on the garden.
Arts said:
why does e everyone think I am burning something laced with arsenic? I need a much hotter and longer lasting fire to burn incriminating evidence if I don’t want to be caught… sheesh. I’m not an idiot.
Denser timber lasts longer, but mostly you need to stack your timber to create strong draw on the fuel where the material is going in. A chimney-type shape, where the inside of the chimney is burning timber, draws like a hurricane at the bottom, creating a furnace. I’ve built these things on camping trips, where a glass bottle introduced at the bottom is a molten blob within three seconds.
:-)
Rule 303 said:
Arts said:
why does e everyone think I am burning something laced with arsenic? I need a much hotter and longer lasting fire to burn incriminating evidence if I don’t want to be caught… sheesh. I’m not an idiot.
Denser timber lasts longer, but mostly you need to stack your timber to create strong draw on the fuel where the material is going in. A chimney-type shape, where the inside of the chimney is burning timber, draws like a hurricane at the bottom, creating a furnace. I’ve built these things on camping trips, where a glass bottle introduced at the bottom is a molten blob within three seconds.
:-)
Even with that technique, bones are quite difficult to destroy.
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:
Arts said:
why does e everyone think I am burning something laced with arsenic? I need a much hotter and longer lasting fire to burn incriminating evidence if I don’t want to be caught… sheesh. I’m not an idiot.
Denser timber lasts longer, but mostly you need to stack your timber to create strong draw on the fuel where the material is going in. A chimney-type shape, where the inside of the chimney is burning timber, draws like a hurricane at the bottom, creating a furnace. I’ve built these things on camping trips, where a glass bottle introduced at the bottom is a molten blob within three seconds.
:-)
Even with that technique, bones are quite difficult to destroy.
teeth even more so.. um.. so I’ve heard.
Arts said:
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:Denser timber lasts longer, but mostly you need to stack your timber to create strong draw on the fuel where the material is going in. A chimney-type shape, where the inside of the chimney is burning timber, draws like a hurricane at the bottom, creating a furnace. I’ve built these things on camping trips, where a glass bottle introduced at the bottom is a molten blob within three seconds.
:-)
Even with that technique, bones are quite difficult to destroy.
teeth even more so.. um.. so I’ve heard.
The teeth can be your trophy
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:
Arts said:
why does e everyone think I am burning something laced with arsenic? I need a much hotter and longer lasting fire to burn incriminating evidence if I don’t want to be caught… sheesh. I’m not an idiot.
Denser timber lasts longer, but mostly you need to stack your timber to create strong draw on the fuel where the material is going in. A chimney-type shape, where the inside of the chimney is burning timber, draws like a hurricane at the bottom, creating a furnace. I’ve built these things on camping trips, where a glass bottle introduced at the bottom is a molten blob within three seconds.
:-)
Even with that technique, bones are quite difficult to destroy.
Hence the need for a Cremulator Machine.
New York (CNN)Snapchat (SNAP) will no longer promote President Donald Trump’s account on its platform in the wake of his controversial comments on ongoing protests across the US, the company announced Wednesday.
Trump’s account is regularly spotlighted in Snapchat’s “Discover” feature, which also highlights content from celebrities and news organizations.
“We are not currently promoting the President’s content on Snapchat’s Discover platform. We will not amplify voices who incite racial violence and injustice by giving them free promotion on Discover,” Rachel Racusen, a spokesperson for Snap, Snapchat’s parent company, said in a statement Wednesday.
“Racial violence and injustice have no place in our society and we stand together with all who seek peace, love, equality, and justice in America,” Racusen said.
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/03/tech/snapchat-trump/index.html
Might be better to just hide it in concrete
dv said:
Might be better to just hide it in concrete
The discussion here often turns to the hiding of bodies. Just an observation…
dv said:
Might be better to just hide it in concrete
It would need to be big. Skyscraper foundation big.I’ve exhumed people from the normal shallow-grave-with-a-bag-of-rapid-set-over-the-top type concealment and the concrete makes SFA difference.
dv said:
Might be better to just hide it in concrete
and preserve? I very much doubt that..
furious said:
The discussion here often turns to the hiding of bodies. Just an observation…
Li scias tro multe
Rule 303 said:
dv said:
Might be better to just hide it in concrete
It would need to be big. Skyscraper foundation big.I’ve exhumed people from the normal shallow-grave-with-a-bag-of-rapid-set-over-the-top type concealment and the concrete makes SFA difference.
Well you must have had some clue where to look. If you hid it under some random location where concrete was being laid then you’d probably be okay.
although you can probably build a stadium over it.
One day all the concrete ever lain will wash away and one by one the hidden corpses shall emerge
dv said:
New York (CNN)Snapchat (SNAP) will no longer promote President Donald Trump’s account on its platform in the wake of his controversial comments on ongoing protests across the US, the company announced Wednesday.Trump’s account is regularly spotlighted in Snapchat’s “Discover” feature, which also highlights content from celebrities and news organizations.
“We are not currently promoting the President’s content on Snapchat’s Discover platform. We will not amplify voices who incite racial violence and injustice by giving them free promotion on Discover,” Rachel Racusen, a spokesperson for Snap, Snapchat’s parent company, said in a statement Wednesday.
“Racial violence and injustice have no place in our society and we stand together with all who seek peace, love, equality, and justice in America,” Racusen said.https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/03/tech/snapchat-trump/index.html
Mr. Ranger isn’t going to like that, Yogi.
dv said:
Rule 303 said:
dv said:
Might be better to just hide it in concrete
It would need to be big. Skyscraper foundation big.I’ve exhumed people from the normal shallow-grave-with-a-bag-of-rapid-set-over-the-top type concealment and the concrete makes SFA difference.
Well you must have had some clue where to look. If you hid it under some random location where concrete was being laid then you’d probably be okay.
Trump’s annual physical results are out, and I believe neither the height nor the weight.
Tamb said:
dv said:
Rule 303 said:It would need to be big. Skyscraper foundation big.I’ve exhumed people from the normal shallow-grave-with-a-bag-of-rapid-set-over-the-top type concealment and the concrete makes SFA difference.
Well you must have had some clue where to look. If you hid it under some random location where concrete was being laid then you’d probably be okay.
Crocs take care of the problem here.
Bricktop had it worked out.
Though you have to have faith that no one wants to go looking for teeth in pigshit.
The lack of ability to completely dispose of bodies seems to be the way most serial killers get caught or convicted
I remember Bubblecars bean patch, his back yard had a lot of trees, like sheoaks that were heavy on water and nutrient use so his back yard was not a particularly lush environ apart from his 7’ x 4’ bean patch. The bean patch was a rich dark green that you could see from the space station.
Cymek said:
The lack of ability to completely dispose of bodies seems to be the way most serial killers get caught or convicted
Elon Musk has the answer
Peak Warming Man said:
I remember Bubblecars bean patch, his back yard had a lot of trees, like sheoaks that were heavy on water and nutrient use so his back yard was not a particularly lush environ apart from his 7’ x 4’ bean patch. The bean patch was a rich dark green that you could see from the space station.
What kind of beans?
dv said:
Cymek said:
The lack of ability to completely dispose of bodies seems to be the way most serial killers get caught or convicted
Elon Musk has the answer
Put them in the boot of your car and fire your car into space?
furious said:
dv said:
Cymek said:
The lack of ability to completely dispose of bodies seems to be the way most serial killers get caught or convicted
Elon Musk has the answer
Put them in the boot of your car and fire your car into space?
quite
dv said:
Trump’s annual physical results are out, and I believe neither the height nor the weight.
has the height changed from last time?
Lunch: 2 x chicken & chive sausages, bread & butter.
Then I’ll wash up, run the hoover through the kitchen and hallway, have a shower and wait for Helen who’ll be here at 3:30 to cut my locks.
dv said:
One day all the concrete ever lain will wash away and one by one the hidden corpses shall emerge
If you find any singing frogs in tin boxes among the foundations, just walk away.
Cymek said:
The lack of ability to completely dispose of bodies seems to be the way most serial killers get caught or convicted
Marianas Trench… bottom of… concrete for the weights.
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I remember Bubblecars bean patch, his back yard had a lot of trees, like sheoaks that were heavy on water and nutrient use so his back yard was not a particularly lush environ apart from his 7’ x 4’ bean patch. The bean patch was a rich dark green that you could see from the space station.
What kind of beans?
Kidney beans perhaps?
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I remember Bubblecars bean patch, his back yard had a lot of trees, like sheoaks that were heavy on water and nutrient use so his back yard was not a particularly lush environ apart from his 7’ x 4’ bean patch. The bean patch was a rich dark green that you could see from the space station.
What kind of beans?
Rodney similar variety to Kidney
dv said:
Trump’s annual physical results are out, and I believe neither the height nor the weight.
What units?
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
One day all the concrete ever lain will wash away and one by one the hidden corpses shall emerge
If you find any singing frogs in tin boxes among the foundations, just walk away.
ROFL.
dear authority who is currently monitoring this forum… please note that I (Arts) am not taking part in this conversation. Thank You.
Arts said:
dv said:
Might be better to just hide it in concrete
and preserve? I very much doubt that..
Not to mention create a huge void and destroy the structural integrity of the crete.
I guess it’s possible to pack a body into the sand under a large slab, then cover it up and put the reo back in place before the pour, then hope nobody stumbles on it while they’re concreting. But you’ve still created a large void in the foundation….
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I remember Bubblecars bean patch, his back yard had a lot of trees, like sheoaks that were heavy on water and nutrient use so his back yard was not a particularly lush environ apart from his 7’ x 4’ bean patch. The bean patch was a rich dark green that you could see from the space station.
What kind of beans?
Various kinds of green climbing beans.
party_pants said:
dv said:
Trump’s annual physical results are out, and I believe neither the height nor the weight.
has the height changed from last time?
No. Still 6’3” (190 cm).
Here he is next to Justin Trudeau (188 cm)

Here he is next to Obama (185 cm)

dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I remember Bubblecars bean patch, his back yard had a lot of trees, like sheoaks that were heavy on water and nutrient use so his back yard was not a particularly lush environ apart from his 7’ x 4’ bean patch. The bean patch was a rich dark green that you could see from the space station.
What kind of beans?
I should remember. I supplied the bean seed.
party_pants said:
Cymek said:
The lack of ability to completely dispose of bodies seems to be the way most serial killers get caught or convicted
Marianas Trench… bottom of… concrete for the weights.
So between Elon Musk and James Cameron there should be heaps of answers
Tamb said:
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I remember Bubblecars bean patch, his back yard had a lot of trees, like sheoaks that were heavy on water and nutrient use so his back yard was not a particularly lush environ apart from his 7’ x 4’ bean patch. The bean patch was a rich dark green that you could see from the space station.
What kind of beans?
Kidney beans perhaps?
Fava beans…
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
One day all the concrete ever lain will wash away and one by one the hidden corpses shall emerge
If you find any singing frogs in tin boxes among the foundations, just walk away.
ROFL.
classic
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
Trump’s annual physical results are out, and I believe neither the height nor the weight.
What units?
Height in Trump feet. Tiny little Trump feet.
Arts said:
dear authority who is currently monitoring this forum… please note that I (Arts) am not taking part in this conversation. Thank You.
I’m pretty sure we’ll all blame sibeen
dv said:
Trump’s annual physical results are out, and I believe neither the height nor the weight.
Dude, you’re obsessed.
dv said:
party_pants said:
dv said:
Trump’s annual physical results are out, and I believe neither the height nor the weight.
has the height changed from last time?
No. Still 6’3” (190 cm).
Here he is next to Justin Trudeau (188 cm)
Here he is next to Obama (185 cm)
Such an odd thing to lie about.
Maybe they had to stretch the tape measure around his belly. Or Maybe Trudeau wears high heels.
Rule 303 said:
Arts said:
dv said:
Might be better to just hide it in concrete
and preserve? I very much doubt that..
Not to mention create a huge void and destroy the structural integrity of the crete.
I guess it’s possible to pack a body into the sand under a large slab, then cover it up and put the reo back in place before the pour, then hope nobody stumbles on it while they’re concreting. But you’ve still created a large void in the foundation….
You could probably pick it up with GPR or high res seismic
Arts said:
dear authority who is currently monitoring this forum… please note that I (Arts) am not taking part in this conversation. Thank You.
Hehe.
I’m safe here…. There’s waaayyyy better ways to dispose of a body.
Some of which I would in charge of searching for, soooo…..
dv said:
party_pants said:
Cymek said:
The lack of ability to completely dispose of bodies seems to be the way most serial killers get caught or convicted
Marianas Trench… bottom of… concrete for the weights.
So between Elon Musk and James Cameron there should be heaps of answers
Yes. Although I must concede Cymek’s point and agree these options are not always available to ordinary folks serial killers with ordinary means.
And if you want to get away with it…don’t do this:
>>Detective Inspector Smith said the girls filmed the incident, and that a number of videos were posted to social media.<<
From: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-04/gold-coast-balcony-death-cian-english-teen-girls-arrested/12319728
party_pants said:
dv said:
party_pants said:Marianas Trench… bottom of… concrete for the weights.
So between Elon Musk and James Cameron there should be heaps of answers
Yes. Although I must concede Cymek’s point and agree these options are not always available to
ordinary folksserial killers with ordinary means.
Then again people of means can just have people killed and not even worry about the body cough*epstein*cough
His wife is very tall, maybe he specified that on the form he sent to Russia.
party_pants said:
dv said:
party_pants said:has the height changed from last time?
No. Still 6’3” (190 cm).
Here he is next to Justin Trudeau (188 cm)
Here he is next to Obama (185 cm)
Such an odd thing to lie about.
Maybe they had to stretch the tape measure around his belly. Or Maybe Trudeau wears high heels.
You need to be taller to “fix” the BMI. So hence he must be taller…
dv said:
Arts said:
dear authority who is currently monitoring this forum… please note that I (Arts) am not taking part in this conversation. Thank You.
I’m pretty sure we’ll all blame sibeen
seems fair.
Rule 303 said:
Some of which I would in charge of searching for, soooo…..
In the future, doctors will be use apps that analyse decades of posts like this one to check for cognitive decline.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-04/magic-mushrooms-foraging-with-nannup-police/12317246
sibeen was going to the funeral today, wasn’t he? I think it’s at 2.30pm.
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-04/magic-mushrooms-foraging-with-nannup-police/12317246
‘“When we’re halfway out of town doing a highway patrol for road safety and they say ‘oh, someone’s at the coffee shop and they’re wearing just a pair of pants and a bra and they’re crying and laughing out the front sitting on a chair’ — they’re the sorts of things we don’t want,” said local officer-in-charge Sergeant Al McNevin.’
I thought that such behaviour was just a consequence of being a Sandgroper. Had no idea that drugs were involved.
I’m off to mow a friend’s grass for her.
buffy said:
I’m off to mow a friend’s grass for her.
If you must.
dv said:
party_pants said:
dv said:
Trump’s annual physical results are out, and I believe neither the height nor the weight.
has the height changed from last time?
No. Still 6’3” (190 cm).
Here he is next to Justin Trudeau (188 cm)
Here he is next to Obama (185 cm)
Both 1st ladies look pretty tall as well.
Although they are both cheating.
party_pants said:
dv said:
…/cut/…. annual physical results are out, and I believe neither the height nor the weight.
has the height changed from last time?
had couple vertebrae removed, makes it easier to pull socks on, tie shoelaces etc
transition said:
party_pants said:
dv said:
…/cut/…. annual physical results are out, and I believe neither the height nor the weight.
has the height changed from last time?
had couple vertebrae removed, makes it easier to pull socks on, tie shoelaces etc
Also mean you don’t need to get new trousers when you go for the Harry Highpants look.
Arts said:
although you can probably build a stadium over it.
Though in NSW we tear em down and rebuild em about every 5 years.
Ian said:
Arts said:
although you can probably build a stadium over it.
Though in NSW we tear em down and rebuild em about every 5 years.
Or whenever your construction-industry mates/donors need a big contract to boost their bottom line.
Ian said:
Arts said:
although you can probably build a stadium over it.
Though in NSW we tear em down and rebuild em about every 5 years.
Arts said:
dv said:
Arts said:
dear authority who is currently monitoring this forum… please note that I (Arts) am not taking part in this conversation. Thank You.
I’m pretty sure we’ll all blame sibeen
seems fair.
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-04/magic-mushrooms-foraging-with-nannup-police/12317246
‘“When we’re halfway out of town doing a highway patrol for road safety and they say ‘oh, someone’s at the coffee shop and they’re wearing just a pair of pants and a bra and they’re crying and laughing out the front sitting on a chair’ — they’re the sorts of things we don’t want,” said local officer-in-charge Sergeant Al McNevin.’
I thought that such behaviour was just a consequence of being a Sandgroper. Had no idea that drugs were involved.
Suspect that was a cleaned up version for the camera. There’s a few hallucinogenics that will make you do much, much more bizarre things than that.
party_pants said:
dv said:
party_pants said:has the height changed from last time?
No. Still 6’3” (190 cm).
Here he is next to Justin Trudeau (188 cm)
Here he is next to Obama (185 cm)
Such an odd thing to lie about.
Who wants a short-arsed tyrannical psychopath?
Ian said:
party_pants said:
dv said:No. Still 6’3” (190 cm).
Here he is next to Justin Trudeau (188 cm)
Here he is next to Obama (185 cm)
Such an odd thing to lie about.
Who wants a short-arsed tyrannical psychopath?
Pete Evans says George Floyd protests were ‘staged by the elites to divert attention from COVID-19’ – after fans turned on him for supporting Trump’s riot policy
Pete Evans has sparked further outrage on social media following his endorsement of President Donald Trump’s threats to use the military against Black Lives Matter protesters.
The celebrity chef, 47, shared a Facebook post on Wednesday stating that the riots across the U.S. in response to the death of George Floyd are part of a media conspiracy staged by ‘the elite’ to distract citizens from the coronavirus pandemic.
‘With the wave of a wand the media diverted your attention from a “deadly” pandemic to racial riots, and you didn’t even stop to notice,’ the post reads.
‘Stop taking the bait and being spoon fed by the media. They are here to misinform you. Think critically and research for yourself,’ it continues.
‘Do not mistake rioters with protesters. There is plenty of evidence showing you that the riots were instigated by organisations affiliated with the elite.
—-
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-8383493/Pete-Evans-says-George-Floyd-protests-staged-elites.html
—-
Tamb said:
Ian said:
Arts said:
although you can probably build a stadium over it.
Though in NSW we tear em down and rebuild em about every 5 years.
I wonder if new stadiums will be built since covid19 has pushed for more crowd free events.
It’s not a matter of ‘crowds’. Crowds or no crowds are irrelevant to the construction of stadia.
It’s the construction of stadia that rewards the building industry for its relationship with politics, and which incidentally provides the political world with tangible ‘gifts’ to a public which has to be reminded of how much they owe to the incumbent government.
captain_spalding said:
Tamb said:
Ian said:Though in NSW we tear em down and rebuild em about every 5 years.
I wonder if new stadiums will be built since covid19 has pushed for more crowd free events.It’s not a matter of ‘crowds’. Crowds or no crowds are irrelevant to the construction of stadia.
It’s the construction of stadia that rewards the building industry for its relationship with politics, and which incidentally provides the political world with tangible ‘gifts’ to a public which has to be reminded of how much they owe to the incumbent government.
Rule 303 said:
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-04/magic-mushrooms-foraging-with-nannup-police/12317246
‘“When we’re halfway out of town doing a highway patrol for road safety and they say ‘oh, someone’s at the coffee shop and they’re wearing just a pair of pants and a bra and they’re crying and laughing out the front sitting on a chair’ — they’re the sorts of things we don’t want,” said local officer-in-charge Sergeant Al McNevin.’
I thought that such behaviour was just a consequence of being a Sandgroper. Had no idea that drugs were involved.
Suspect that was a cleaned up version for the camera. There’s a few hallucinogenics that will make you do much, much more bizarre things than that.
>crying and laughing out the front sitting on a chair
Outrageous
Tamb said:
Will organisations pay for buildings which will never show a profit?
The building of sports facilities is such a ‘motherhood’ issue in Australia that it’s a guaranteed winner for any govt/local MP. As such, the public purse always stands ready to chip in in a decidedly hefty way, whether it’s for construction of or the continued operation of those facilities. Peak sporting bodies also enjoy comfortable relations with politics.
Tamb said:
captain_spalding said:
Tamb said:I wonder if new stadiums will be built since covid19 has pushed for more crowd free events.
It’s not a matter of ‘crowds’. Crowds or no crowds are irrelevant to the construction of stadia.
It’s the construction of stadia that rewards the building industry for its relationship with politics, and which incidentally provides the political world with tangible ‘gifts’ to a public which has to be reminded of how much they owe to the incumbent government.
Will organisations pay for buildings which will never show a profit?
I mean someone built Trump’s casinos so…
dv said:
Pete Evans says George Floyd protests were ‘staged by the elites to divert attention from COVID-19’ – after fans turned on him for supporting Trump’s riot policyPete Evans has sparked further outrage on social media following his endorsement of President Donald Trump’s threats to use the military against Black Lives Matter protesters.
The celebrity chef, 47, shared a Facebook post on Wednesday stating that the riots across the U.S. in response to the death of George Floyd are part of a media conspiracy staged by ‘the elite’ to distract citizens from the coronavirus pandemic.
‘With the wave of a wand the media diverted your attention from a “deadly” pandemic to racial riots, and you didn’t even stop to notice,’ the post reads.
‘Stop taking the bait and being spoon fed by the media. They are here to misinform you. Think critically and research for yourself,’ it continues.
‘Do not mistake rioters with protesters. There is plenty of evidence showing you that the riots were instigated by organisations affiliated with the elite.
—-
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-8383493/Pete-Evans-says-George-Floyd-protests-staged-elites.html
—-
I listened to the speech Trump gave from the church a day or so ago, it was pretty much spot on.
Said what happened to George was unacceptable – tick.
Said the people had a right to demonstrate – tick
Said the rioters were not on the side of George and would not be tolerated – tick.
There seems to be a media driven mass hysteria happening, sad.
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
Pete Evans says George Floyd protests were ‘staged by the elites to divert attention from COVID-19’ – after fans turned on him for supporting Trump’s riot policyPete Evans has sparked further outrage on social media following his endorsement of President Donald Trump’s threats to use the military against Black Lives Matter protesters.
The celebrity chef, 47, shared a Facebook post on Wednesday stating that the riots across the U.S. in response to the death of George Floyd are part of a media conspiracy staged by ‘the elite’ to distract citizens from the coronavirus pandemic.
‘With the wave of a wand the media diverted your attention from a “deadly” pandemic to racial riots, and you didn’t even stop to notice,’ the post reads.
‘Stop taking the bait and being spoon fed by the media. They are here to misinform you. Think critically and research for yourself,’ it continues.
‘Do not mistake rioters with protesters. There is plenty of evidence showing you that the riots were instigated by organisations affiliated with the elite.
—-
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-8383493/Pete-Evans-says-George-Floyd-protests-staged-elites.html
—-
I listened to the speech Trump gave from the church a day or so ago, it was pretty much spot on.
Said what happened to George was unacceptable – tick.
Said the people had a right to demonstrate – tick
Said the rioters were not on the side of George and would not be tolerated – tick.There seems to be a media driven mass hysteria happening, sad.
Trump is a man of the people and a hero
captain_spalding said:
Absolutely.
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
Pete Evans says George Floyd protests were ‘staged by the elites to divert attention from COVID-19’ – after fans turned on him for supporting Trump’s riot policyPete Evans has sparked further outrage on social media following his endorsement of President Donald Trump’s threats to use the military against Black Lives Matter protesters.
The celebrity chef, 47, shared a Facebook post on Wednesday stating that the riots across the U.S. in response to the death of George Floyd are part of a media conspiracy staged by ‘the elite’ to distract citizens from the coronavirus pandemic.
‘With the wave of a wand the media diverted your attention from a “deadly” pandemic to racial riots, and you didn’t even stop to notice,’ the post reads.
‘Stop taking the bait and being spoon fed by the media. They are here to misinform you. Think critically and research for yourself,’ it continues.
‘Do not mistake rioters with protesters. There is plenty of evidence showing you that the riots were instigated by organisations affiliated with the elite.
—-
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-8383493/Pete-Evans-says-George-Floyd-protests-staged-elites.html
—-
I listened to the speech Trump gave from the church a day or so ago, it was pretty much spot on.
Said what happened to George was unacceptable – tick.
Said the people had a right to demonstrate – tick
Said the rioters were not on the side of George and would not be tolerated – tick.There seems to be a media driven mass hysteria happening, sad.
Jesus.
He had law enforcement use teargas and stun grenades to disperse a peaceful protest outside a church that involved many parishioners of that church so that the could do a photo op.
What is wrong with you that you can’t understand why this is a problem? You are going to fracture something bending over backwards to defend that man.
Peak Warming Man said:
I listened to the speech Trump gave from the church a day or so ago, it was pretty much spot on.
Said what happened to George was unacceptable – tick.
Said the people had a right to demonstrate – tick
Said the rioters were not on the side of George and would not be tolerated – tick.There seems to be a media driven mass hysteria happening, sad.
There’s some things that even Trump can’t be wrong about.
There’s definitely a lot of opportunism in the actions of the arsonists and looters in the US. Any riot will do, as long as there’s a chance to grab a free TV.
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:Absolutely.
I say it a lot, but does anyone listen?
dv said:
Arts said:
dv said:I’m pretty sure we’ll all blame sibeen
seems fair.
everything I do is academic… in this arena… google search history is a wild ride.
dv said:
Pete Evans says George Floyd protests were ‘staged by the elites to divert attention from COVID-19’ – after fans turned on him for supporting Trump’s riot policyPete Evans has sparked further outrage on social media following his endorsement of President Donald Trump’s threats to use the military against Black Lives Matter protesters.
The celebrity chef, 47, shared a Facebook post on Wednesday stating that the riots across the U.S. in response to the death of George Floyd are part of a media conspiracy staged by ‘the elite’ to distract citizens from the coronavirus pandemic.
‘With the wave of a wand the media diverted your attention from a “deadly” pandemic to racial riots, and you didn’t even stop to notice,’ the post reads.
‘Stop taking the bait and being spoon fed by the media. They are here to misinform you. Think critically and research for yourself,’ it continues.
‘Do not mistake rioters with protesters. There is plenty of evidence showing you that the riots were instigated by organisations affiliated with the elite.
—-
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-8383493/Pete-Evans-says-George-Floyd-protests-staged-elites.html
—-
2IC douche nugget.
Arts said:
So, the coals and ash left in the fire pit… can/should I use that on my garden?
Yes.
dv said:
Tamb said:
captain_spalding said:It’s not a matter of ‘crowds’. Crowds or no crowds are irrelevant to the construction of stadia.
It’s the construction of stadia that rewards the building industry for its relationship with politics, and which incidentally provides the political world with tangible ‘gifts’ to a public which has to be reminded of how much they owe to the incumbent government.
Will organisations pay for buildings which will never show a profit?I mean someone built Trump’s casinos so…
Tamb said:
dv said:
Tamb said:Will organisations pay for buildings which will never show a profit?
I mean someone built Trump’s casinos so…
Pre covid. I see new TV only venues becoming the norm.
Sydney has too many stadiums anyway. Maybe they can be converted into cheap housing.
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:I listened to the speech Trump gave from the church a day or so ago, it was pretty much spot on.
Said what happened to George was unacceptable – tick.
Said the people had a right to demonstrate – tick
Said the rioters were not on the side of George and would not be tolerated – tick.There seems to be a media driven mass hysteria happening, sad.
There’s some things that even Trump can’t be wrong about.
There’s definitely a lot of opportunism in the actions of the arsonists and looters in the US. Any riot will do, as long as there’s a chance to grab a free TV.
There’s a mindless mob mentality, you can see it in the media, you can see it in here.
It’s this mentality that is the only thing keeping Trump in the game, they know not what they do.
dv said:
Tamb said:
dv said:I mean someone built Trump’s casinos so…
Pre covid. I see new TV only venues becoming the norm.Sydney has too many stadiums anyway. Maybe they can be converted into cheap housing.
or large swimming pools.
dv said:
Tamb said:
dv said:I mean someone built Trump’s casinos so…
Pre covid. I see new TV only venues becoming the norm.Sydney has too many stadiums anyway. Maybe they can be converted into cheap housing.
that and all that commercial floor space that won’t be necessary any more due to social distancing and working from home, maybe they can make more home
Arts said:
dv said:
Tamb said:Pre covid. I see new TV only venues becoming the norm.
Sydney has too many stadiums anyway. Maybe they can be converted into cheap housing.
or large swimming pools.
Can see nothing much went on while I was away adding to my pile of old clocks to sort out.
roughbarked said:
Arts said:
dv said:Sydney has too many stadiums anyway. Maybe they can be converted into cheap housing.
or large swimming pools.
Can see nothing much went on while I was away adding to my pile of old clocks to sort out.
what a load of old clock
roughbarked said:
Arts said:
dv said:Sydney has too many stadiums anyway. Maybe they can be converted into cheap housing.
or large swimming pools.
Can see nothing much went on while I was away adding to my pile of old clocks to sort out.
you’re holding on to the past, man!
dv said:
roughbarked said:
Arts said:or large swimming pools.
Can see nothing much went on while I was away adding to my pile of old clocks to sort out.
what a load of old clock
It is a farken big lot of old clock. I now have a carport full a shed full and two rooms of the house cluttered with the stuff.
Arts said:
roughbarked said:
Arts said:or large swimming pools.
Can see nothing much went on while I was away adding to my pile of old clocks to sort out.
you’re holding on to the past, man!
If I could turn back time.
roughbarked said:
dv said:
roughbarked said:Can see nothing much went on while I was away adding to my pile of old clocks to sort out.
what a load of old clock
It is a farken big lot of old clock. I now have a carport full a shed full and two rooms of the house cluttered with the stuff.
Oh good for a while there I thought you might be some kind of monomanic nutter
dv said:
roughbarked said:
dv said:what a load of old clock
It is a farken big lot of old clock. I now have a carport full a shed full and two rooms of the house cluttered with the stuff.
Oh good for a while there I thought you might be some kind of monomanic nutter
Nah, too stupid to say “no, I’m not taking away all your rubbish for no pay”.
dv said:
roughbarked said:
dv said:what a load of old clock
It is a farken big lot of old clock. I now have a carport full a shed full and two rooms of the house cluttered with the stuff.
Oh good for a while there I thought you might be some kind of monomanic nutter
He’s a country bumpkin not a metro gnome,
roughbarked said:
Arts said:
roughbarked said:Can see nothing much went on while I was away adding to my pile of old clocks to sort out.
you’re holding on to the past, man!
If I could turn back time.
roughbarked said:
Arts said:
roughbarked said:Can see nothing much went on while I was away adding to my pile of old clocks to sort out.
you’re holding on to the past, man!
If I could turn back time.
If I could keep time in a bottle
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
roughbarked said:It is a farken big lot of old clock. I now have a carport full a shed full and two rooms of the house cluttered with the stuff.
Oh good for a while there I thought you might be some kind of monomanic nutter
He’s a country bumpkin not a metro gnome,
He’s one of our cronies
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
Arts said:you’re holding on to the past, man!
If I could turn back time.
You’d need a big cannon to do that.
yeah ¿ what did we say about the water cannons and the flow of time ¿
roughbarked said:
Arts said:
So, the coals and ash left in the fire pit… can/should I use that on my garden?
Yes.
If you don’t mind fast-forwarding through the waffle, this guy explains things quite well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61ryiTNYneQ
What Happens When You Use Ash in the Garden?
dv said:
SCIENCE said:
dv said:Oh good for a while there I thought you might be some kind of monomanic nutter
He’s a country bumpkin not a metro gnome,
He’s one of our cronies
Some rate him as one of the deities.
Anyway, if I ever get it all tidied up… Then I’ll be having a sale to clock collectors.
roughbarked said:
Anyway, if I ever get it all tidied up… Then I’ll be having a sale to clock collectors.
Auction?
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:
Arts said:
So, the coals and ash left in the fire pit… can/should I use that on my garden?
Yes.
If you don’t mind fast-forwarding through the waffle, this guy explains things quite well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61ryiTNYneQ
What Happens When You Use Ash in the Garden?
He does waffle a lot but for the uninitated, it is a relatively useful lesson.
dv said:
roughbarked said:
Anyway, if I ever get it all tidied up… Then I’ll be having a sale to clock collectors.
Auction?
If that’s what it takes, yes. I’ll probably have to put it on ebay because if there were lock collectors in Australia they obviously didn’t want this lot.
Arts said:
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:Denser timber lasts longer, but mostly you need to stack your timber to create strong draw on the fuel where the material is going in. A chimney-type shape, where the inside of the chimney is burning timber, draws like a hurricane at the bottom, creating a furnace. I’ve built these things on camping trips, where a glass bottle introduced at the bottom is a molten blob within three seconds.
:-)
Even with that technique, bones are quite difficult to destroy.
teeth even more so.. um.. so I’ve heard.
Yes.
dv said:
New York (CNN)Snapchat (SNAP) will no longer promote President Donald Trump’s account on its platform in the wake of his controversial comments on ongoing protests across the US, the company announced Wednesday.Trump’s account is regularly spotlighted in Snapchat’s “Discover” feature, which also highlights content from celebrities and news organizations.
“We are not currently promoting the President’s content on Snapchat’s Discover platform. We will not amplify voices who incite racial violence and injustice by giving them free promotion on Discover,” Rachel Racusen, a spokesperson for Snap, Snapchat’s parent company, said in a statement Wednesday.
“Racial violence and injustice have no place in our society and we stand together with all who seek peace, love, equality, and justice in America,” Racusen said.https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/03/tech/snapchat-trump/index.html
good.
furious said:
The discussion here often turns to the hiding of bodies. Just an observation…
I blame Rodney.
dv said:
One day all the concrete ever lain will wash away and one by one the hidden corpses shall emerge
LOL
party_pants said:
Cymek said:
The lack of ability to completely dispose of bodies seems to be the way most serial killers get caught or convicted
Marianas Trench… bottom of… concrete for the weights.
Except that concrete dissolves at that depth. (Below the carbonate compensation depth.)
Michael V said:
party_pants said:
Cymek said:
The lack of ability to completely dispose of bodies seems to be the way most serial killers get caught or convicted
Marianas Trench… bottom of… concrete for the weights.
Except that concrete dissolves at that depth. (Below the carbonate compensation depth.)
Tungsten carbide manacles
dv said:
Michael V said:
party_pants said:Marianas Trench… bottom of… concrete for the weights.
Except that concrete dissolves at that depth. (Below the carbonate compensation depth.)
Tungsten carbide manacles
plastic, all you need is plastic, we all know that Plastic Lasts Forever And Is Worse Than Hitler Trump
Michael V said:
party_pants said:
Cymek said:
The lack of ability to completely dispose of bodies seems to be the way most serial killers get caught or convicted
Marianas Trench… bottom of… concrete for the weights.
Except that concrete dissolves at that depth. (Below the carbonate compensation depth.)
You’ve got a broad knowledge base MV.
roughbarked said:
dv said:
roughbarked said:
Anyway, if I ever get it all tidied up… Then I’ll be having a sale to clock collectors.
Auction?
If that’s what it takes, yes. I’ll probably have to put it on ebay because if there were lock collectors in Australia they obviously didn’t want this lot.
Here’s a small sample.
“Russia’s President Vladimir Putin has declared a state of emergency after 20,000 tonnes of oil leaked into a river within the Arctic Circle.
The spill happened when a fuel tank at a power plant near the Siberian city of Norilsk collapsed last Friday.
President Putin expressed anger after discovering officials only learnt about the incident two days later.
The plant is owned by a subsidiary of Norilsk Nickel, which is the world’s leading nickel and palladium producer.”
Poseidon shares BUY BUY BUY
Peak Warming Man said:
“Russia’s President Vladimir Putin has declared a state of emergency after 20,000 tonnes of oil leaked into a river within the Arctic Circle.
The spill happened when a fuel tank at a power plant near the Siberian city of Norilsk collapsed last Friday.
President Putin expressed anger after discovering officials only learnt about the incident two days later.
The plant is owned by a subsidiary of Norilsk Nickel, which is the world’s leading nickel and palladium producer.”Poseidon shares BUY BUY BUY
wilco
and TWO DAYS LATER seriously WTF this is a COVER UP AS BAD AS WEST TAIWAN AND THEIR CORONAVIRUS
Michael V said:
party_pants said:
Cymek said:
The lack of ability to completely dispose of bodies seems to be the way most serial killers get caught or convicted
Marianas Trench… bottom of… concrete for the weights.
Except that concrete dissolves at that depth. (Below the carbonate compensation depth.)
.. and what depth is a carbonate compensation level?
(asking for a friend)
Fun trip back from Fiona Stanley yesterday
https://thewest.com.au/news/traffic/perth-traffic-truck-stranded-on-train-tracks-after-veering-off-kwinana-freeway-southbound-ng-b881566974z
https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/wa/woman-killed-in-south-west-crash-near-bunbury-after-horror-wa-day-long-weekend-ng-b881567403z
another 4hr tour of the sw by-roads.
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-04/magic-mushrooms-foraging-with-nannup-police/12317246
‘“When we’re halfway out of town doing a highway patrol for road safety and they say ‘oh, someone’s at the coffee shop and they’re wearing just a pair of pants and a bra and they’re crying and laughing out the front sitting on a chair’ — they’re the sorts of things we don’t want,” said local officer-in-charge Sergeant Al McNevin.’
I thought that such behaviour was just a consequence of being a Sandgroper. Had no idea that drugs were involved.
LOL
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:
party_pants said:Marianas Trench… bottom of… concrete for the weights.
Except that concrete dissolves at that depth. (Below the carbonate compensation depth.)
You’ve got a broad knowledge base MV.
With MW’s booksmarts and Arts’s homicidal passion we’re home and hosed.
dv said:
Pete Evans says George Floyd protests were ‘staged by the elites to divert attention from COVID-19’ – after fans turned on him for supporting Trump’s riot policyPete Evans has sparked further outrage on social media following his endorsement of President Donald Trump’s threats to use the military against Black Lives Matter protesters.
The celebrity chef, 47, shared a Facebook post on Wednesday stating that the riots across the U.S. in response to the death of George Floyd are part of a media conspiracy staged by ‘the elite’ to distract citizens from the coronavirus pandemic.
‘With the wave of a wand the media diverted your attention from a “deadly” pandemic to racial riots, and you didn’t even stop to notice,’ the post reads.
‘Stop taking the bait and being spoon fed by the media. They are here to misinform you. Think critically and research for yourself,’ it continues.
‘Do not mistake rioters with protesters. There is plenty of evidence showing you that the riots were instigated by organisations affiliated with the elite.
—-
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-8383493/Pete-Evans-says-George-Floyd-protests-staged-elites.html
—-
sigh
Peak Warming Man said:
“Russia’s President Vladimir Putin has declared a state of emergency after 20,000 tonnes of oil leaked into a river within the Arctic Circle.
The spill happened when a fuel tank at a power plant near the Siberian city of Norilsk collapsed last Friday.
President Putin expressed anger after discovering officials only learnt about the incident two days later.
The plant is owned by a subsidiary of Norilsk Nickel, which is the world’s leading nickel and palladium producer.”Poseidon shares BUY BUY BUY
Hey don’t go blaming nickel
The-Spectator said:
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
Pete Evans says George Floyd protests were ‘staged by the elites to divert attention from COVID-19’ – after fans turned on him for supporting Trump’s riot policyPete Evans has sparked further outrage on social media following his endorsement of President Donald Trump’s threats to use the military against Black Lives Matter protesters.
The celebrity chef, 47, shared a Facebook post on Wednesday stating that the riots across the U.S. in response to the death of George Floyd are part of a media conspiracy staged by ‘the elite’ to distract citizens from the coronavirus pandemic.
‘With the wave of a wand the media diverted your attention from a “deadly” pandemic to racial riots, and you didn’t even stop to notice,’ the post reads.
‘Stop taking the bait and being spoon fed by the media. They are here to misinform you. Think critically and research for yourself,’ it continues.
‘Do not mistake rioters with protesters. There is plenty of evidence showing you that the riots were instigated by organisations affiliated with the elite.
—-
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-8383493/Pete-Evans-says-George-Floyd-protests-staged-elites.html
—-
I listened to the speech Trump gave from the church a day or so ago, it was pretty much spot on.
Said what happened to George was unacceptable – tick.
Said the people had a right to demonstrate – tick
Said the rioters were not on the side of George and would not be tolerated – tick.There seems to be a media driven mass hysteria happening, sad.
Trump is a man of the people and a hero
Well, there you go. And he tries so hard not to display those attributes.
Michael V said:
The-Spectator said:
Peak Warming Man said:I listened to the speech Trump gave from the church a day or so ago, it was pretty much spot on.
Said what happened to George was unacceptable – tick.
Said the people had a right to demonstrate – tick
Said the rioters were not on the side of George and would not be tolerated – tick.There seems to be a media driven mass hysteria happening, sad.
Trump is a man of the people and a hero
Well, there you go. And he tries so hard not to display those attributes.
Modestly, mostly. He’s not one to showboat.
dv said:
Michael V said:
The-Spectator said:Trump is a man of the people and a hero
Well, there you go. And he tries so hard not to display those attributes.
Modestly, mostly. He’s not one to showboat.
You cannot be serious!!!
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
Michael V said:Well, there you go. And he tries so hard not to display those attributes.
Modestly, mostly. He’s not one to showboat.
You cannot be serious!!!
There exists that possibility.
cheesy pasta be late lunch, shortly
transition said:
cheesy pasta be late lunch, shortly
dv said:
Michael V said:
party_pants said:Marianas Trench… bottom of… concrete for the weights.
Except that concrete dissolves at that depth. (Below the carbonate compensation depth.)
Tungsten carbide manacles
That’d work.
Michael V said:
dv said:
Michael V said:Except that concrete dissolves at that depth. (Below the carbonate compensation depth.)
Tungsten carbide manacles
That’d work.
They pulled Don Mackay’s teeth and fed him to the pigs. Probably sold his gold fillings.
No remains have ever been found.
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:
party_pants said:Marianas Trench… bottom of… concrete for the weights.
Except that concrete dissolves at that depth. (Below the carbonate compensation depth.)
You’ve got a broad knowledge base MV.
:)
Ta. It’s a geology thing. Radiolarian cherts form from siliceous oozes below the CCD. I did quite a bit of research on Radiolarian Cherts in eastern Australia and California. Rads can be useful for dating deep-sea marine rocks.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
dv said:Tungsten carbide manacles
That’d work.
They pulled Don Mackay’s teeth and fed him to the pigs. Probably sold his gold fillings.
No remains have ever been found.
Then how do you know he was fed to pigs (eyes roughbarked narrowly)
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
dv said:Tungsten carbide manacles
That’d work.
They pulled Don Mackay’s teeth and fed him to the pigs. Probably sold his gold fillings.
No remains have ever been found.
I was told he went to the blood and bone machine.
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:Except that concrete dissolves at that depth. (Below the carbonate compensation depth.)
You’ve got a broad knowledge base MV.
:)
Ta. It’s a geology thing. Radiolarian cherts form from siliceous oozes below the CCD. I did quite a bit of research on Radiolarian Cherts in eastern Australia and California. Rads can be useful for dating deep-sea marine rocks.
I’m sure you’d enjoy chatting with my SiL and her husband. Both geologists.
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:That’d work.
They pulled Don Mackay’s teeth and fed him to the pigs. Probably sold his gold fillings.
No remains have ever been found.
I was told he went to the blood and bone machine.
He did. Pigs are made of blood and bone.
dv said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:That’d work.
They pulled Don Mackay’s teeth and fed him to the pigs. Probably sold his gold fillings.
No remains have ever been found.
Then how do you know he was fed to pigs (eyes roughbarked narrowly)
Even the pigs toook excavators to a certain property and dug and dug under an old pig sty, looking for the teeth, to no avail.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:You’ve got a broad knowledge base MV.
:)
Ta. It’s a geology thing. Radiolarian cherts form from siliceous oozes below the CCD. I did quite a bit of research on Radiolarian Cherts in eastern Australia and California. Rads can be useful for dating deep-sea marine rocks.
I’m sure you’d enjoy chatting with my SiL and her husband. Both geologists.
It’d be quite a stony silence if they didn’t hit it off.
party_pants said:
Michael V said:
party_pants said:Marianas Trench… bottom of… concrete for the weights.
Except that concrete dissolves at that depth. (Below the carbonate compensation depth.)
.. and what depth is a carbonate compensation level?
(asking for a friend)
Approx 4,000 metres (IIRC), but it varies with water temperature.
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:They pulled Don Mackay’s teeth and fed him to the pigs. Probably sold his gold fillings.
No remains have ever been found.
I was told he went to the blood and bone machine.
He did. Pigs are machines made of blood and bone.
fixed
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said::)
Ta. It’s a geology thing. Radiolarian cherts form from siliceous oozes below the CCD. I did quite a bit of research on Radiolarian Cherts in eastern Australia and California. Rads can be useful for dating deep-sea marine rocks.
I’m sure you’d enjoy chatting with my SiL and her husband. Both geologists.
It’d be quite a stony silence if they didn’t hit it off.
Rock on.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-04/mp-troy-bell-accused-by-new-owners-of-house-he-sold/12317202
I’m not quite understanding this. It seems a permit was required and existed. So presumably a council person signed the thing off. Wouldn’t it be that person you would have to go for if it was unsound?
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:
“Russia’s President Vladimir Putin has declared a state of emergency after 20,000 tonnes of oil leaked into a river within the Arctic Circle.
The spill happened when a fuel tank at a power plant near the Siberian city of Norilsk collapsed last Friday.
President Putin expressed anger after discovering officials only learnt about the incident two days later.
The plant is owned by a subsidiary of Norilsk Nickel, which is the world’s leading nickel and palladium producer.”Poseidon shares BUY BUY BUY
Hey don’t go blaming nickel
But Alex does…
dv said:
Michael V said:
The-Spectator said:Trump is a man of the people and a hero
Well, there you go. And he tries so hard not to display those attributes.
Modestly, mostly. He’s not one to showboat.
Ah, I see. What a person.
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-04/mp-troy-bell-accused-by-new-owners-of-house-he-sold/12317202I’m not quite understanding this. It seems a permit was required and existed. So presumably a council person signed the thing off. Wouldn’t it be that person you would have to go for if it was unsound?
I recall a council inspector looking at the fondation trenches under my shed and saying, “these are good enough for a second storey”.
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-04/mp-troy-bell-accused-by-new-owners-of-house-he-sold/12317202I’m not quite understanding this. It seems a permit was required and existed. So presumably a council person signed the thing off. Wouldn’t it be that person you would have to go for if it was unsound?
Could have been a private certifier.
https://www.betootaadvocate.com/breaking-news/independent-sydney-building-certifier-accidentally-signs-off-on-his-kids-jenga-tower/
Some private certifiers have been known to balance the risk of ‘detection’ against the promise of ongoing business from a developer.
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said::)
Ta. It’s a geology thing. Radiolarian cherts form from siliceous oozes below the CCD. I did quite a bit of research on Radiolarian Cherts in eastern Australia and California. Rads can be useful for dating deep-sea marine rocks.
I’m sure you’d enjoy chatting with my SiL and her husband. Both geologists.
It’d be quite a stony silence if they didn’t hit it off.
LOLs.
dv said:
Michael V said:
The-Spectator said:Trump is a man of the people and a hero
Well, there you go. And he tries so hard not to display those attributes.
Modestly, mostly. He’s not one to showboat.
PMSL
Michael V said:
dv said:
Michael V said:Well, there you go. And he tries so hard not to display those attributes.
Modestly, mostly. He’s not one to showboat.
Ah, I see. What a person.
Watching him speak, he does these little shoulder jigs as if he is dancing with the stars at each expression but when he’s reading something he’s as flat as a board. I told my four year old grabddaughter that she had more expression than Trump and she got it straightway. She then demonstrated how much she knew about what expression meant.
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-04/magic-mushrooms-foraging-with-nannup-police/12317246
‘“When we’re halfway out of town doing a highway patrol for road safety and they say ‘oh, someone’s at the coffee shop and they’re wearing just a pair of pants and a bra and they’re crying and laughing out the front sitting on a chair’ — they’re the sorts of things we don’t want,” said local officer-in-charge Sergeant Al McNevin.’
I thought that such behaviour was just a consequence of being a Sandgroper. Had no idea that drugs were involved.
LOL
Savage
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-04/mp-troy-bell-accused-by-new-owners-of-house-he-sold/12317202I’m not quite understanding this. It seems a permit was required and existed. So presumably a council person signed the thing off. Wouldn’t it be that person you would have to go for if it was unsound?
Could have been a private certifier.
https://www.betootaadvocate.com/breaking-news/independent-sydney-building-certifier-accidentally-signs-off-on-his-kids-jenga-tower/
Some private certifiers have been known to balance the risk of ‘detection’ against the promise of ongoing business from a developer.
Same thing. Wouldn’t you go the certifier?
Arts said:
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:‘“When we’re halfway out of town doing a highway patrol for road safety and they say ‘oh, someone’s at the coffee shop and they’re wearing just a pair of pants and a bra and they’re crying and laughing out the front sitting on a chair’ — they’re the sorts of things we don’t want,” said local officer-in-charge Sergeant Al McNevin.’
I thought that such behaviour was just a consequence of being a Sandgroper. Had no idea that drugs were involved.
LOL
Savage
Was a bit.
Michael V said:
party_pants said:
Michael V said:Except that concrete dissolves at that depth. (Below the carbonate compensation depth.)
.. and what depth is a carbonate compensation level?
(asking for a friend)
Approx 4,000 metres (IIRC), but it varies with water temperature.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbonate_compensation_depth
buffy said:
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-04/mp-troy-bell-accused-by-new-owners-of-house-he-sold/12317202I’m not quite understanding this. It seems a permit was required and existed. So presumably a council person signed the thing off. Wouldn’t it be that person you would have to go for if it was unsound?
Could have been a private certifier.
https://www.betootaadvocate.com/breaking-news/independent-sydney-building-certifier-accidentally-signs-off-on-his-kids-jenga-tower/
Some private certifiers have been known to balance the risk of ‘detection’ against the promise of ongoing business from a developer.
Same thing. Wouldn’t you go the certifier?
Sorry, I should have looked at the link details. But there are private certifiers in some council areas.
Peak Warming Man said:
“Russia’s President Vladimir Putin has declared a state of emergency after 20,000 tonnes of oil leaked into a river within the Arctic Circle.
The spill happened when a fuel tank at a power plant near the Siberian city of Norilsk collapsed last Friday.
President Putin expressed anger after discovering officials only learnt about the incident two days later.
The plant is owned by a subsidiary of Norilsk Nickel, which is the world’s leading nickel and palladium producer.”Poseidon shares BUY BUY BUY
Hehe, there’s people around the world hanging on PWM’s every word.

buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-04/mp-troy-bell-accused-by-new-owners-of-house-he-sold/12317202I’m not quite understanding this. It seems a permit was required and existed. So presumably a council person signed the thing off. Wouldn’t it be that person you would have to go for if it was unsound?
You’d think so.
Michael V said:
Michael V said:
party_pants said:.. and what depth is a carbonate compensation level?
(asking for a friend)
Approx 4,000 metres (IIRC), but it varies with water temperature.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbonate_compensation_depth
My problem with geologists. I had four of them. They happened to be walking past when I was setting up to go down the opal mine and they asked to have a look. “Yair mates”, I said. As long as you don’t tell anyone I didn’t have enough helmets for you all.
Anyway, once down there I asked, what can you tell me about what we are looking at?
Answer was, “none of us know anything about opal ground”.
Michael V said:
Michael V said:
party_pants said:.. and what depth is a carbonate compensation level?
(asking for a friend)
Approx 4,000 metres (IIRC), but it varies with water temperature.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbonate_compensation_depth
Thanks. I did do a quick look at Wikipedia just a few minutes ago. Something I’ve never heard of before, I guess it opens up much more of the ocean as a dumping ground rather than just the deepest trenches.
buffy said:
buffy said:
captain_spalding said:Could have been a private certifier.
https://www.betootaadvocate.com/breaking-news/independent-sydney-building-certifier-accidentally-signs-off-on-his-kids-jenga-tower/
Some private certifiers have been known to balance the risk of ‘detection’ against the promise of ongoing business from a developer.
Same thing. Wouldn’t you go the certifier?
Sorry, I should have looked at the link details. But there are private certifiers in some council areas.
I had a certifier for the insurance co that covered the house loan. I asked was he satisfied that the house suited the requirements. His answer was, “you are the one who has to live in it”.
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-04/mp-troy-bell-accused-by-new-owners-of-house-he-sold/12317202I’m not quite understanding this. It seems a permit was required and existed. So presumably a council person signed the thing off. Wouldn’t it be that person you would have to go for if it was unsound?
Could have been a private certifier.
https://www.betootaadvocate.com/breaking-news/independent-sydney-building-certifier-accidentally-signs-off-on-his-kids-jenga-tower/
Some private certifiers have been known to balance the risk of ‘detection’ against the promise of ongoing business from a developer.
Some jurisdictions use private certifiers, some don’t. Gympie Regional council doesn’t. Brisbane city council does.
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:
“Russia’s President Vladimir Putin has declared a state of emergency after 20,000 tonnes of oil leaked into a river within the Arctic Circle.
The spill happened when a fuel tank at a power plant near the Siberian city of Norilsk collapsed last Friday.
President Putin expressed anger after discovering officials only learnt about the incident two days later.
The plant is owned by a subsidiary of Norilsk Nickel, which is the world’s leading nickel and palladium producer.”Poseidon shares BUY BUY BUY
Hehe, there’s people around the world hanging on PWM’s every word.
:)
:)
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
buffy said:Same thing. Wouldn’t you go the certifier?
Sorry, I should have looked at the link details. But there are private certifiers in some council areas.
I had a certifier for the insurance co that covered the house loan. I asked was he satisfied that the house suited the requirements. His answer was, “you are the one who has to live in it”.
See that chimney up there? Charm. Adds a bit of charm.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
Michael V said:Approx 4,000 metres (IIRC), but it varies with water temperature.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbonate_compensation_depth
My problem with geologists. I had four of them. They happened to be walking past when I was setting up to go down the opal mine and they asked to have a look. “Yair mates”, I said. As long as you don’t tell anyone I didn’t have enough helmets for you all.
Anyway, once down there I asked, what can you tell me about what we are looking at?
Answer was, “none of us know anything about opal ground”.
There’s quite a bit to know in order to know everything about rocks. You’d need a brain the size of a planet.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbonate_compensation_depth
My problem with geologists. I had four of them. They happened to be walking past when I was setting up to go down the opal mine and they asked to have a look. “Yair mates”, I said. As long as you don’t tell anyone I didn’t have enough helmets for you all.
Anyway, once down there I asked, what can you tell me about what we are looking at?
Answer was, “none of us know anything about opal ground”.
There’s quite a bit to know in order to know everything about rocks. You’d need a brain the size of a planet.
Anyway, they left with the small amount I added to their knowledge depth for them to go home and consider.
Helen arrived early and removed several kilos of my mane. Feeling much more human.
Time to do some shopping.
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:
“Russia’s President Vladimir Putin has declared a state of emergency after 20,000 tonnes of oil leaked into a river within the Arctic Circle.
The spill happened when a fuel tank at a power plant near the Siberian city of Norilsk collapsed last Friday.
President Putin expressed anger after discovering officials only learnt about the incident two days later.
The plant is owned by a subsidiary of Norilsk Nickel, which is the world’s leading nickel and palladium producer.”Poseidon shares BUY BUY BUY
Hehe, there’s people around the world hanging on PWM’s every word.
I predict it will rise, but then capsize and sink at midnight. I’ll let Shelley Winters know. But I’m sure there’s got to be a morning after.
buffy said:
Sorry, I should have looked at the link details. But there are private certifiers in some council areas.
I was working fora council when private certs. became a thing. The council certifiers (all qualified and experienced builders) predicted that there would be private certifiers who would bend to the customer’s will.
Woodie said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:
“Russia’s President Vladimir Putin has declared a state of emergency after 20,000 tonnes of oil leaked into a river within the Arctic Circle.
The spill happened when a fuel tank at a power plant near the Siberian city of Norilsk collapsed last Friday.
President Putin expressed anger after discovering officials only learnt about the incident two days later.
The plant is owned by a subsidiary of Norilsk Nickel, which is the world’s leading nickel and palladium producer.”Poseidon shares BUY BUY BUY
Hehe, there’s people around the world hanging on PWM’s every word.
I predict it will rise, but then capsize and sink at midnight. I’ll let Shelley Winters know. But I’m sure there’s got to be a morning after.
Sounds like quite the adventure…
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:Sorry, I should have looked at the link details. But there are private certifiers in some council areas.
I was working fora council when private certs. became a thing. The council certifiers (all qualified and experienced builders) predicted that there would be private certifiers who would bend to the customer’s will.
‘Private’, indicates that they are in it for the money.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-04/truck-driver-charged-after-allegedly-spitting-on-police-officer/12321200
I wonder why people do such repellent, illegal and foolish things?
Michael V said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-04/truck-driver-charged-after-allegedly-spitting-on-police-officer/12321200I wonder why people do such repellent, illegal and foolish things?
Because they think they can?
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:Sorry, I should have looked at the link details. But there are private certifiers in some council areas.
I was working fora council when private certs. became a thing. The council certifiers (all qualified and experienced builders) predicted that there would be private certifiers who would bend to the customer’s will.
‘Private’, indicates that they are in it for the money.
Yes, just in the same way that all private doctors care nothing for the well being of their patients.
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:I was working fora council when private certs. became a thing. The council certifiers (all qualified and experienced builders) predicted that there would be private certifiers who would bend to the customer’s will.
‘Private’, indicates that they are in it for the money.
Yes, just in the same way that all private doctors care nothing for the well being of their patients.
They cannot bulk bill. Though that isn’t the point you made.
dv said:
Was he sure it was an accident or is that just an afterthought?
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:‘Private’, indicates that they are in it for the money.
Yes, just in the same way that all private doctors care nothing for the well being of their patients.
They cannot bulk bill. Though that isn’t the point you made.
Indeed it isn’t.
In fact I’m not sure what that has to do with it.
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:I was working fora council when private certs. became a thing. The council certifiers (all qualified and experienced builders) predicted that there would be private certifiers who would bend to the customer’s will.
‘Private’, indicates that they are in it for the money.
Yes, just in the same way that all private doctors care nothing for the well being of their patients.
They didn’t think that all priv. certs. would be like that. They knew some of the people who were moving into the business, and regarded them well. But, they didn’t doubt that there’d be some.
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Yes, just in the same way that all private doctors care nothing for the well being of their patients.
They cannot bulk bill. Though that isn’t the point you made.
Indeed it isn’t.
In fact I’m not sure what that has to do with it.
I can be sure of that.
captain_spalding said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:‘Private’, indicates that they are in it for the money.
Yes, just in the same way that all private doctors care nothing for the well being of their patients.
They didn’t think that all priv. certs. would be like that. They knew some of the people who were moving into the business, and regarded them well. But, they didn’t doubt that there’d be some.
It wouldn’t beyond a public certifier to bend to the “customers” will. That is what bribes and kickbacks are for…
dv said:
LOL
dv said:
Light.
Porn in my letter box. porn in my in-tray. I’ve told hare and forbes to stop…
captain_spalding said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:‘Private’, indicates that they are in it for the money.
Yes, just in the same way that all private doctors care nothing for the well being of their patients.
They didn’t think that all priv. certs. would be like that. They knew some of the people who were moving into the business, and regarded them well. But, they didn’t doubt that there’d be some.
OK, that I agree with.
I do agree that having people who are supposed to be doing independent certification employed by the people responsible for the work being certified has inherent conflicts of interest that are not a good idea.
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
Light.
It wasn’t too bad.
dv said:
Back from chemo.
With a heater some energy is converted to light.
Those old wives sure knew somethin’ about sore throats. I have lemon & ginger tea from Aldi and stirred in a bit of honey. Really does wonders for a sore throat.
Michael V said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-04/truck-driver-charged-after-allegedly-spitting-on-police-officer/12321200I wonder why people do such repellent, illegal and foolish things?
People are jerks.
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-04/truck-driver-charged-after-allegedly-spitting-on-police-officer/12321200I wonder why people do such repellent, illegal and foolish things?
People are jerks.
Speaking of which… CommBank vows to stop people sending abusive messages through online banking.
People are sending multiple tiny amounts, less than a dollar, with abusive messages via the bank.
https://www.news.com.au/finance/business/breaking-news/cba-moves-to-curb-abusive-online-banking/news-story/5885dbd3b061a17a0ebf7accb409f238
dv said:
arguably it’s 0 efficiency despite being what one may want
Tamb said:
dv said:
Back from chemo.
With a heater some energy is converted to light.
But all the light is converted back to heat (and many heaters don’t produce any light anyway).
Divine Angel said:
Those old wives sure knew somethin’ about sore throats. I have lemon & ginger tea from Aldi and stirred in a bit of honey. Really does wonders for a sore throat.
RCT or lies
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
arguably it’s 0 efficiency despite being what one may want
You’d need a strange definition of efficiency to make that true.
Divine Angel said:
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-04/truck-driver-charged-after-allegedly-spitting-on-police-officer/12321200I wonder why people do such repellent, illegal and foolish things?
People are jerks.
Speaking of which… CommBank vows to stop people sending abusive messages through online banking.
People are sending multiple tiny amounts, less than a dollar, with abusive messages via the bank.
https://www.news.com.au/finance/business/breaking-news/cba-moves-to-curb-abusive-online-banking/news-story/5885dbd3b061a17a0ebf7accb409f238
Seems a strange pastime, even for a jerk.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Tamb said:
dv said:
Back from chemo.
With a heater some energy is converted to light.
But all the light is converted back to heat (and many heaters don’t produce any light anyway).
isn’t heat, light?
Divine Angel said:
Those old wives sure knew somethin’ about sore throats. I have lemon & ginger tea from Aldi and stirred in a bit of honey. Really does wonders for a sore throat.
The honey is what does it.
Bogsnorkler said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Tamb said:Back from chemo.
With a heater some energy is converted to light.
But all the light is converted back to heat (and many heaters don’t produce any light anyway).
isn’t heat, light?
No.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Divine Angel said:
Divine Angel said:People are jerks.
Speaking of which… CommBank vows to stop people sending abusive messages through online banking.
People are sending multiple tiny amounts, less than a dollar, with abusive messages via the bank.
https://www.news.com.au/finance/business/breaking-news/cba-moves-to-curb-abusive-online-banking/news-story/5885dbd3b061a17a0ebf7accb409f238
Seems a strange pastime, even for a jerk.
It does
The Rev Dodgson said:
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
arguably it’s 0 efficiency despite being what one may want
You’d need a strange definition of efficiency to make that true.
not really, just a definition of thermodynamic engineering that allows for a spectrum of efficiencies
Divine Angel said:
clever
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bogsnorkler said:
The Rev Dodgson said:But all the light is converted back to heat (and many heaters don’t produce any light anyway).
isn’t heat, light?
No.
but it is emr, right?
Cymek said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Divine Angel said:Speaking of which… CommBank vows to stop people sending abusive messages through online banking.
People are sending multiple tiny amounts, less than a dollar, with abusive messages via the bank.
https://www.news.com.au/finance/business/breaking-news/cba-moves-to-curb-abusive-online-banking/news-story/5885dbd3b061a17a0ebf7accb409f238
Seems a strange pastime, even for a jerk.
It does
I’m assuming these messages appear as “reasons” when you open the banking app. If, for example, mum sends me money for her grocery shopping, she writes “groceries” in the “reason” box, which I don’t see unless I log into my app.
Seems to be an easy solution… if you Even notice the small amount, thank them kindly for the cash and don’t read the message.
Bogsnorkler said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bogsnorkler said:isn’t heat, light?
No.
but it is emr, right?
I’m going to say no to that as well, sorry. Heat can be a transfer by conduction, for instance: not just radiation.
Bogsnorkler said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bogsnorkler said:isn’t heat, light?
No.
but it is emr, right?
Right
dv said:
Bogsnorkler said:
The Rev Dodgson said:No.
but it is emr, right?
I’m going to say no to that as well, sorry. Heat can be a transfer by conduction, for instance: not just radiation.
maybe they mean that blackbody radiation counts as heat, the transfer of energy due to temperature differences
SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
SCIENCE said:arguably it’s 0 efficiency despite being what one may want
You’d need a strange definition of efficiency to make that true.
not really, just a definition of thermodynamic engineering that allows for a spectrum of efficiencies
Some IR there too.
dv said:
Bogsnorkler said:
The Rev Dodgson said:No.
but it is emr, right?
I’m going to say no to that as well, sorry. Heat can be a transfer by conduction, for instance: not just radiation.
OK, fair point.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bogsnorkler said:
The Rev Dodgson said:No.
but it is emr, right?
Right
so in this instance it is light. just not visible to our eyes type of light.
dv said:
Bogsnorkler said:
The Rev Dodgson said:No.
but it is emr, right?
I’m going to say no to that as well, sorry. Heat can be a transfer by conduction, for instance: not just radiation.
I explicitly excluded conduction.
:-)
Tamb said:
SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:You’d need a strange definition of efficiency to make that true.
not really, just a definition of thermodynamic engineering that allows for a spectrum of efficiencies
Some IR there too.
IRgue that one could look at it like pure heater h=0 to pure engine h=1 with ideal not car cycle engine h=dT/Tc
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
Bogsnorkler said:but it is emr, right?
I’m going to say no to that as well, sorry. Heat can be a transfer by conduction, for instance: not just radiation.
I explicitly excluded conduction.
:-)
ah, case closed, get it
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bogsnorkler said:
The Rev Dodgson said:No.
but it is emr, right?
Right
nit picking.. Didn’t you mean correct?
Bogsnorkler said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bogsnorkler said:but it is emr, right?
Right
so in this instance it is light. just not visible to our eyes type of light.
Well to me light is EMR that can be seen, so invisible EMR isn’t light.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bogsnorkler said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Right
so in this instance it is light. just not visible to our eyes type of light.
Well to me light is EMR that can be seen, so invisible EMR isn’t light.
ahhhhh astronomers have a different definition. all emr is light.
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bogsnorkler said:but it is emr, right?
Right
nit picking.. Didn’t you mean correct?
Correct.
Bogsnorkler said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bogsnorkler said:so in this instance it is light. just not visible to our eyes type of light.
Well to me light is EMR that can be seen, so invisible EMR isn’t light.
ahhhhh astronomers have a different definition. all emr is light.
Bogsnorkler said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bogsnorkler said:so in this instance it is light. just not visible to our eyes type of light.
Well to me light is EMR that can be seen, so invisible EMR isn’t light.
ahhhhh astronomers have a different definition. all emr is light.
Well astronomers should change their silly definition then.
Tamb said:
Bogsnorkler said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Well to me light is EMR that can be seen, so invisible EMR isn’t light.
ahhhhh astronomers have a different definition. all emr is light.
They’re just clutching at stars.
they also reckon any element heavier than hydrogen is a metal, or something like that.
Bogsnorkler said:
Tamb said:
Bogsnorkler said:ahhhhh astronomers have a different definition. all emr is light.
They’re just clutching at stars.they also reckon any element heavier than hydrogen is a metal, or something like that.
though of course hydrogen also has a metallic phase…
Bogsnorkler said:
Tamb said:
Bogsnorkler said:ahhhhh astronomers have a different definition. all emr is light.
They’re just clutching at stars.they also reckon any element heavier than hydrogen is a metal, or something like that.
He, like other metals, ends in -ium.
dv said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Tamb said:They’re just clutching at stars.
they also reckon any element heavier than hydrogen is a metal, or something like that.
though of course hydrogen also has a metallic phase…
Heavy.
roughbarked said:
dv said:
Bogsnorkler said:they also reckon any element heavier than hydrogen is a metal, or something like that.
though of course hydrogen also has a metallic phase…
Heavy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metallic_hydrogen
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bogsnorkler said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Well to me light is EMR that can be seen, so invisible EMR isn’t light.
ahhhhh astronomers have a different definition. all emr is light.
Well astronomers should change their silly definition then.
we argue that in fact it’s even further the other way, and that all light is the em kind of radiation, but not all radiation is light
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:I listened to the speech Trump gave from the church a day or so ago, it was pretty much spot on.
Said what happened to George was unacceptable – tick.
Said the people had a right to demonstrate – tick
Said the rioters were not on the side of George and would not be tolerated – tick.There seems to be a media driven mass hysteria happening, sad.
There’s some things that even Trump can’t be wrong about.
There’s definitely a lot of opportunism in the actions of the arsonists and looters in the US. Any riot will do, as long as there’s a chance to grab a free TV.
There’s a mindless mob mentality, you can see it in the media, you can see it in here.
It’s this mentality that is the only thing keeping Trump in the game, they know not what they do.
It’s a peculiar conceit of those on the right to blame conservative behaviour on leftwing excesses. If only the left wouldn’t be trans friendly then we wouldn’t need to lower taxes on the the rich. I mean lefties don’t claim to pursue abortion rights because of weak gun-laws.
In the fullness of history it will be seen that all conservatives were complicit with Trump for their narrow ideological causes like disenfranchising the the poor and people of colour and tax breaks for the wealthy with all and any constitutional norms abandoned in the mean time.
With Democrats increasingly be becoming the fiscal conservatives what is the point of a right-wing party anyway?
dv said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Tamb said:They’re just clutching at stars.
they also reckon any element heavier than hydrogen is a metal, or something like that.
though of course hydrogen also has a metallic phase…
OK, serious question now, why do they say all the elements are metals?
Divine Angel said:
Those old wives sure knew somethin’ about sore throats. I have lemon & ginger tea from Aldi and stirred in a bit of honey. Really does wonders for a sore throat.
If you add Aspirin and gargle the mixture it works even better.
Also, sorry to hear about your throat.
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:Sorry, I should have looked at the link details. But there are private certifiers in some council areas.
I was working fora council when private certs. became a thing. The council certifiers (all qualified and experienced builders) predicted that there would be private certifiers who would bend to the customer’s will.
But ultimately they have to take the responsibility. And have good insurance.
(I’ve been away doing Other Things)
Divine Angel said:
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-04/truck-driver-charged-after-allegedly-spitting-on-police-officer/12321200I wonder why people do such repellent, illegal and foolish things?
People are jerks.
Speaking of which… CommBank vows to stop people sending abusive messages through online banking.
People are sending multiple tiny amounts, less than a dollar, with abusive messages via the bank.
https://www.news.com.au/finance/business/breaking-news/cba-moves-to-curb-abusive-online-banking/news-story/5885dbd3b061a17a0ebf7accb409f238
JFC. :-(
It’s a peculiar conceit of those on the right to blame conservative behaviour on leftwing excesses. If only the left wouldn’t be trans friendly then we wouldn’t need to lower taxes on the the rich. I mean lefties don’t claim to pursue abortion rights because of weak gun-laws.
It’s a very perverse admission to frailty. I mean if leftwing excesses, like black people asking not to be murdered, have driven them to the right, why didn’t rightwing excesses drive to them to the left?
With Democrats increasingly be becoming the fiscal conservatives what is the point of a right-wing party anyway?
I’m content to concede that there’s quite a bit of air between the Dem and Rep platforms this time around.
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
Those old wives sure knew somethin’ about sore throats. I have lemon & ginger tea from Aldi and stirred in a bit of honey. Really does wonders for a sore throat.
If you add Aspirin and gargle the mixture it works even better.
Also, sorry to hear about your throat.
Man this is getting close to the hydroxychloroquine bleach and very bright inefficient heater byproduct treatment, it’s magic.
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
Those old wives sure knew somethin’ about sore throats. I have lemon & ginger tea from Aldi and stirred in a bit of honey. Really does wonders for a sore throat.
If you add Aspirin and gargle the mixture it works even better.
Also, sorry to hear about your throat.
My mother used to crush an asprin on a teaspoon of honey.
SCIENCE said:
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
Those old wives sure knew somethin’ about sore throats. I have lemon & ginger tea from Aldi and stirred in a bit of honey. Really does wonders for a sore throat.
If you add Aspirin and gargle the mixture it works even better.
Also, sorry to hear about your throat.
Man this is getting close to the hydroxychloroquine bleach and very bright inefficient heater byproduct treatment, it’s magic.
…and if old wives told the kids of today that, they wouldn’t believe em…
roughbarked said:
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
Those old wives sure knew somethin’ about sore throats. I have lemon & ginger tea from Aldi and stirred in a bit of honey. Really does wonders for a sore throat.
If you add Aspirin and gargle the mixture it works even better.
Also, sorry to hear about your throat.
My mother used to crush an asprin on a teaspoon of honey.
Rather, she’d crush an asprin in a teaspoon with another teaspoon, then dip the clean spoon in honey and sprinkle the asprin on it.
buffy said:
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:Sorry, I should have looked at the link details. But there are private certifiers in some council areas.
I was working fora council when private certs. became a thing. The council certifiers (all qualified and experienced builders) predicted that there would be private certifiers who would bend to the customer’s will.
But ultimately they have to take the responsibility. And have good insurance.
(I’ve been away doing Other Things)
To be fair to the anti-private certifiers, there don’t seem to have been many cases of private certifiers being sued in proportion to the cost of observed building defects so far.
he had a face like a piece of unfolded origami…
The Rev Dodgson said:
buffy said:
captain_spalding said:I was working fora council when private certs. became a thing. The council certifiers (all qualified and experienced builders) predicted that there would be private certifiers who would bend to the customer’s will.
But ultimately they have to take the responsibility. And have good insurance.
(I’ve been away doing Other Things)
To be fair to the anti-private certifiers, there don’t seem to have been many cases of private certifiers being sued in proportion to the cost of observed building defects so far.
I’m not against private operators.
If they do their job the way that works properly.
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
buffy said:But ultimately they have to take the responsibility. And have good insurance.
(I’ve been away doing Other Things)
To be fair to the anti-private certifiers, there don’t seem to have been many cases of private certifiers being sued in proportion to the cost of observed building defects so far.
I’m not against private operators.
If they do their job the way that works properly.
Properly in this instance meaning that all stakeholders were happy with the outcome.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:To be fair to the anti-private certifiers, there don’t seem to have been many cases of private certifiers being sued in proportion to the cost of observed building defects so far.
I’m not against private operators.
If they do their job the way that works properly.
Properly in this instance meaning that all stakeholders were happy with the outcome.
Like vampire hunters
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
buffy said:But ultimately they have to take the responsibility. And have good insurance.
(I’ve been away doing Other Things)
To be fair to the anti-private certifiers, there don’t seem to have been many cases of private certifiers being sued in proportion to the cost of observed building defects so far.
I’m not against private operators.
If they do their job the way that works properly.
The problem is that most do, but some don’t.
Oh, and even those that do have been known to make mistakes occasionally.
SCIENCE said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Tamb said:They’re just clutching at stars.
they also reckon any element heavier than hydrogen is a metal, or something like that.
He, like other metals, ends in -ium.
Iron Y, like gold, silver mercury copper…
Cymek said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:I’m not against private operators.
If they do their job the way that works properly.
Properly in this instance meaning that all stakeholders were happy with the outcome.
Like vampire hunters
That could work.
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:To be fair to the anti-private certifiers, there don’t seem to have been many cases of private certifiers being sued in proportion to the cost of observed building defects so far.
I’m not against private operators.
If they do their job the way that works properly.
The problem is that most do, but some don’t.
Oh, and even those that do have been known to make mistakes occasionally.
Mistakes can be accounted for.
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
Bogsnorkler said:they also reckon any element heavier than hydrogen is a metal, or something like that.
He, like other metals, ends in -ium.
Iron Y, like gold, silver mercury copper…
-ium is off trolley.
The Rev Dodgson said:
buffy said:
captain_spalding said:I was working fora council when private certs. became a thing. The council certifiers (all qualified and experienced builders) predicted that there would be private certifiers who would bend to the customer’s will.
But ultimately they have to take the responsibility. And have good insurance.
(I’ve been away doing Other Things)
To be fair to the anti-private certifiers, there don’t seem to have been many cases of private certifiers being sued in proportion to the cost of observed building defects so far.
I don’t think we’ve addressed my point yet. Why is the law suit against the person who sold the house, rather than against the person who signed off that it was all above board? Even if the signer offer was paid by the owner, they are still taking the responsibility when signing off.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
Rule 303 said:If you add Aspirin and gargle the mixture it works even better.
Also, sorry to hear about your throat.
My mother used to crush an asprin on a teaspoon of honey.
Rather, she’d crush an asprin in a teaspoon with another teaspoon, then dip the clean spoon in honey and sprinkle the asprin on it.
I remember my mum doing that too
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
Those old wives sure knew somethin’ about sore throats. I have lemon & ginger tea from Aldi and stirred in a bit of honey. Really does wonders for a sore throat.
If you add Aspirin and gargle the mixture it works even better.
Also, sorry to hear about your throat.
It’s taken a whole week, but I’ve finally come down with Mini Me’s cold. I feel really crappy today.
This is Australia.
https://www.facebook.com/abcnews.au/videos/289804805383975/?t=18
Divine Angel said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:My mother used to crush an asprin on a teaspoon of honey.
Rather, she’d crush an asprin in a teaspoon with another teaspoon, then dip the clean spoon in honey and sprinkle the asprin on it.
I remember my mum doing that too
In my day we’d mainline laudanum except at night time when it was straight off to the opium house.
And we had an acoustic boogaloo.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:He, like other metals, ends in -ium.
Iron Y, like gold, silver mercury copper…
-ium is off trolley.
-um… but what about ferr, aur, argenti, hydragyr and cupr ¿
Divine Angel said:
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
Those old wives sure knew somethin’ about sore throats. I have lemon & ginger tea from Aldi and stirred in a bit of honey. Really does wonders for a sore throat.
If you add Aspirin and gargle the mixture it works even better.
Also, sorry to hear about your throat.
It’s taken a whole week, but I’ve finally come down with Mini Me’s cold. I feel really crappy today.
Just about the time she is over it and again full of beans?
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:Iron Y, like gold, silver mercury copper…
-ium is off trolley.
-um… but what about ferr, aur, argenti, hydragyr and cupr ¿
And what about the -on. Boron, carbon, iron, silicon, but also neon, krypton, argon.
dv said:
Divine Angel said:
roughbarked said:Rather, she’d crush an asprin in a teaspoon with another teaspoon, then dip the clean spoon in honey and sprinkle the asprin on it.
I remember my mum doing that too
In my day we’d mainline laudanum except at night time when it was straight off to the opium house.
And we had an acoustic boogaloo.
ah the good old opium wars, thebaine of West Taiwan in their Century of Humiliation
buffy said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
buffy said:But ultimately they have to take the responsibility. And have good insurance.
(I’ve been away doing Other Things)
To be fair to the anti-private certifiers, there don’t seem to have been many cases of private certifiers being sued in proportion to the cost of observed building defects so far.
I don’t think we’ve addressed my point yet. Why is the law suit against the person who sold the house, rather than against the person who signed off that it was all above board? Even if the signer offer was paid by the owner, they are still taking the responsibility when signing off.
Possibly because he contracted the inspections and the builders?
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
Bogsnorkler said:they also reckon any element heavier than hydrogen is a metal, or something like that.
though of course hydrogen also has a metallic phase…
OK, serious question now, why do they say all the elements are metals?
Bump.
answer me you bastards!!!
sarahs mum said:
This is Australia.https://www.facebook.com/abcnews.au/videos/289804805383975/?t=18
they need a bible and some tear gas
dv said:
Divine Angel said:
roughbarked said:Rather, she’d crush an asprin in a teaspoon with another teaspoon, then dip the clean spoon in honey and sprinkle the asprin on it.
I remember my mum doing that too
In my day we’d mainline laudanum except at night time when it was straight off to the opium house.
And we had an acoustic boogaloo.
we know you are talking shit.
Andrew Bolt’s column mocking Greta Thunberg breached standards, press watchdog finds
News Corp columnist accuses Australian Press Council of sabotaging debate and doubles down by repeating slurs about Thunberg’s autism
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/jun/04/andrew-bolts-column-mocking-greta-thunberg-breached-standards-press-watchdog-finds
dv said:
Divine Angel said:
roughbarked said:Rather, she’d crush an asprin in a teaspoon with another teaspoon, then dip the clean spoon in honey and sprinkle the asprin on it.
I remember my mum doing that too
In my day we’d mainline laudanum except at night time when it was straight off to the opium house.
And we had an acoustic boogaloo.
Loooooxury
roughbarked said:
dv said:
Divine Angel said:I remember my mum doing that too
In my day we’d mainline laudanum except at night time when it was straight off to the opium house.
And we had an acoustic boogaloo.
we know you are talking shit.
What gave it away?
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:Iron Y, like gold, silver mercury copper…
-ium is off trolley.
-um… but what about ferr, aur, argenti, hydragyr and cupr ¿
You claim absolutes and then cannot finnd a backdown?
buffy said:
Divine Angel said:
Rule 303 said:If you add Aspirin and gargle the mixture it works even better.
Also, sorry to hear about your throat.
It’s taken a whole week, but I’ve finally come down with Mini Me’s cold. I feel really crappy today.
Just about the time she is over it and again full of beans?
Bingo
Bogsnorkler said:
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:though of course hydrogen also has a metallic phase…
OK, serious question now, why do they say all the elements are metals?
Bump.
answer me you bastards!!!
Because they conduct electricity and heat
dv said:
roughbarked said:
dv said:In my day we’d mainline laudanum except at night time when it was straight off to the opium house.
And we had an acoustic boogaloo.
we know you are talking shit.
What gave it away?
I have a fair idea of your age. Way too young me laddie.
roughbarked said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Bogsnorkler said:OK, serious question now, why do they say all the elements are metals?
Bump.
answer me you bastards!!!
Because they conduct electricity and heat
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
Bogsnorkler said:Bump.
answer me you bastards!!!
Because they conduct electricity and heat
Lead doesn’t conduct electricity.
Then it is a dud.
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:-ium is off trolley.
-um… but what about ferr, aur, argenti, hydragyr and cupr ¿
You claim absolutes and then cannot finnd a backdown?
we mean if we wanted counterexamples there are even more exciting ones like tungsten and bismuth
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:-um… but what about ferr, aur, argenti, hydragyr and cupr ¿
You claim absolutes and then cannot finnd a backdown?
we mean if we wanted counterexamples there are even more exciting ones like tungsten and bismuth
My nickel is worth bismuth.
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
Bogsnorkler said:Bump.
answer me you bastards!!!
Because they conduct electricity and heat
Lead doesn’t conduct electricity.
Hmmmmmmmm
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:Iron Y, like gold, silver mercury copper…
-ium is off trolley.
-um… but what about ferr, aur, argenti, hydragyr and cupr ¿
You were all supposed to laugh. Second time today.
:(
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:You claim absolutes and then cannot finnd a backdown?
we mean if we wanted counterexamples there are even more exciting ones like tungsten and bismuth
My nickel is worth bismuth.
boring
but yes, good point
Bogsnorkler said:
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:though of course hydrogen also has a metallic phase…
OK, serious question now, why do they say all the elements are metals?
Bump.
answer me you bastards!!!
FIIK
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:-ium is off trolley.
-um… but what about ferr, aur, argenti, hydragyr and cupr ¿
You were all supposed to laugh. Second time today.
:(
Missed it. You’re too slick for me. :-)
sarahs mum said:
Andrew Bolt’s column mocking Greta Thunberg breached standards, press watchdog findsNews Corp columnist accuses Australian Press Council of sabotaging debate and doubles down by repeating slurs about Thunberg’s autism
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/jun/04/andrew-bolts-column-mocking-greta-thunberg-breached-standards-press-watchdog-finds
Is he up against the wall yet?
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:-ium is off trolley.
-um… but what about ferr, aur, argenti, hydragyr and cupr ¿
You were all supposed to laugh. Second time today.
:(
I did laugh. to myself.
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Bogsnorkler said:OK, serious question now, why do they say all the elements are metals?
Bump.
answer me you bastards!!!
FIIK
Join with me then in solidarity to get and answer from the pointy heads here who are withholding this nugget of knowledge from us.
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:we mean if we wanted counterexamples there are even more exciting ones like tungsten and bismuth
My nickel is worth bismuth.
boring
but yes, good point
At least you got it.
My kids call them dad jokes.
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:Bump.
answer me you bastards!!!
FIIK
Join with me then in solidarity to get and answer from the pointy heads here who are withholding this nugget of knowledge from us.
It is elementary, Watson.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:-um… but what about ferr, aur, argenti, hydragyr and cupr ¿
You were all supposed to laugh. Second time today.
:(
I did laugh. to myself.
apologies
but we did appreciate the contribution despite appearing silentSCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:You were all supposed to laugh. Second time today.
:(
I did laugh. to myself.
apologies
but we did appreciate the contribution despite appearing silent
I’d love to hear your dissertation on how silence actually appears.
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:I did laugh. to myself.
apologies
but we did appreciate the contribution despite appearing silentI’d love to hear your dissertation on how silence actually appears.
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:Bump.
answer me you bastards!!!
FIIK
Join with me then in solidarity to get and answer from the pointy heads here who are withholding this nugget of knowledge from us.
OK.
dv said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:apologies
but we did appreciate the contribution despite appearing silentI’d love to hear your dissertation on how silence actually appears.
I asked him, assuming that all SCIENtists are men.. ;)
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:You were all supposed to laugh. Second time today.
:(
I did laugh. to myself.
apologies
but we did appreciate the contribution despite appearing silent
:)
Ta.
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:Bump.
answer me you bastards!!!
FIIK
Join with me then in solidarity to get and answer from the pointy heads here who are withholding this nugget of knowledge from us.
Probably because ‘they’ don’t?
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:I did laugh. to myself.
apologies
but we did appreciate the contribution despite appearing silentI’d love to hear your dissertation on how silence actually appears.
Ask Simon & Garfunkel – The Sound of Silence
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:apologies
but we did appreciate the contribution despite appearing silentI’d love to hear your dissertation on how silence actually appears.
Ask Simon & Garfunkel – The Sound of Silence
Long been a fave.
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:I did laugh. to myself.
apologies
but we did appreciate the contribution despite appearing silentI’d love to hear your dissertation on how silence actually appears.
veil plaid
Friends came around to pick lemons and pomegranates. The four dogs stayed outside. It makes the Pug furious if they come inside, and Bruna really can’t manage four other dogs at once.
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:apologies
but we did appreciate the contribution despite appearing silentI’d love to hear your dissertation on how silence actually appears.
veil plaid
I’ve seen it like that, while on LSD.
buffy said:
Friends came around to pick lemons and pomegranates. The four dogs stayed outside. It makes the Pug furious if they come inside, and Bruna really can’t manage four other dogs at once.
Now there’s a nice dog photo.
buffy said:
Friends came around to pick lemons and pomegranates. The four dogs stayed outside. It makes the Pug furious if they come inside, and Bruna really can’t manage four other dogs at once.
Dogs with a height advantage? Oh No.
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
Friends came around to pick lemons and pomegranates. The four dogs stayed outside. It makes the Pug furious if they come inside, and Bruna really can’t manage four other dogs at once.
Now there’s a nice dog photo.
Agree.
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:I’d love to hear your dissertation on how silence actually appears.
veil plaid
I’ve seen it like that, while on LSD.
note of course in comics it is often depicted as a speech bubble containing ellipsis videlicet “…”
roughbarked said:
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
Friends came around to pick lemons and pomegranates. The four dogs stayed outside. It makes the Pug furious if they come inside, and Bruna really can’t manage four other dogs at once.
Now there’s a nice dog photo.
Agree.
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
Peak Warming Man said:Now there’s a nice dog photo.
Agree.
For that many dalmatians your friends need a fire truck
They do indeed. Usually they only have the two Dallys and the Pointer. The third Dally is their son’s – he is either visiting or has left it with them for the time being. I forgot to ask.
buffy said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
buffy said:But ultimately they have to take the responsibility. And have good insurance.
(I’ve been away doing Other Things)
To be fair to the anti-private certifiers, there don’t seem to have been many cases of private certifiers being sued in proportion to the cost of observed building defects so far.
I don’t think we’ve addressed my point yet. Why is the law suit against the person who sold the house, rather than against the person who signed off that it was all above board? Even if the signer offer was paid by the owner, they are still taking the responsibility when signing off.
Because the buyer has a contract with the seller, not with the certifier.
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:veil plaid
I’ve seen it like that, while on LSD.
note of course in comics it is often depicted as a speech bubble containing ellipsis videlicet “…”
Didn’t need LSD for that.
I’m just trying to work out how many emissions we’re allowed to have by 2030.
Peak Warming Man said:
I’m just trying to work out how many emissions we’re allowed to have by 2030.
7
party_pants said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I’m just trying to work out how many emissions we’re allowed to have by 2030.
7
sparrowfarts?
Peak Warming Man said:
I’m just trying to work out how many emissions we’re allowed to have by 2030.
Ewwwww.
I just listened to a musical comedy track that my father described to me some 40 years ago but which I’d not heard til now.
dv said:
I just listened to a musical comedy track that my father described to me some 40 years ago but which I’d not heard til now.
which one sir?
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
I just listened to a musical comedy track that my father described to me some 40 years ago but which I’d not heard til now.
which one sir?
dv said:
I just listened to a musical comedy track that my father described to me some 40 years ago but which I’d not heard til now.
Was it ‘Have You Ever Stepped in Dogshit’ to the tune of ‘Yellow Rose of Texas’?
dv said:
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
I just listened to a musical comedy track that my father described to me some 40 years ago but which I’d not heard til now.
which one sir?
Beetle-Bomb – The Exterminators
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzAsbshQpjQ
Agghh… Close.
dv said:
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
I just listened to a musical comedy track that my father described to me some 40 years ago but which I’d not heard til now.
which one sir?
Beetle-Bomb – The Exterminators
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzAsbshQpjQ
I have not heard of it. Did you enjoy it?
Not sure what made me think of it. The memory just popped into my brane.
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
sarahs mum said:which one sir?
Beetle-Bomb – The Exterminators
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzAsbshQpjQ
I have not heard of it. Did you enjoy it?
Not much to be honest.
dv said:
I just listened to a musical comedy track that my father described to me some 40 years ago but which I’d not heard til now.
I say I say
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-04/chang-lonely-fish-falls-hook-line-sinker-for-childrens-letters/12321964
I cried again.
I’m pretty pathetic.
https://cosmosmagazine.com/health/medicine/how-ferrets-can-help-in-a-pandemic/
sarahs mum said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-04/chang-lonely-fish-falls-hook-line-sinker-for-childrens-letters/12321964I cried again.
I’m pretty pathetic.
:( It is a sad story.
I cried too today after reading about an elephant that had died after a horrendous act of animal cruelty. My reaction took me by surprise, as the tears were preceded by an extreme physical discomfort that I had forgotten was a thing. The tears helped. I think I need to take a break from the news.
Speedy said:
sarahs mum said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-04/chang-lonely-fish-falls-hook-line-sinker-for-childrens-letters/12321964I cried again.
I’m pretty pathetic.:( It is a sad story.
I cried too today after reading about an elephant that had died after a horrendous act of animal cruelty. My reaction took me by surprise, as the tears were preceded by an extreme physical discomfort that I had forgotten was a thing. The tears helped. I think I need to take a break from the news.
I read that story too… I have a lot of difficulty with the expression of emotions, but the cruelty to animals stories alway always fuck me over a bit… I read some of the most horrendous accounts of the lowest acts of depravity by humans towards other humans that don’t stir as much in me as these acts towards animals… stupid animals and their helplessness….
Arts said:
Speedy said:
sarahs mum said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-04/chang-lonely-fish-falls-hook-line-sinker-for-childrens-letters/12321964I cried again.
I’m pretty pathetic.:( It is a sad story.
I cried too today after reading about an elephant that had died after a horrendous act of animal cruelty. My reaction took me by surprise, as the tears were preceded by an extreme physical discomfort that I had forgotten was a thing. The tears helped. I think I need to take a break from the news.
I read that story too… I have a lot of difficulty with the expression of emotions, but the cruelty to animals stories alway always fuck me over a bit… I read some of the most horrendous accounts of the lowest acts of depravity by humans towards other humans that don’t stir as much in me as these acts towards animals… stupid animals and their helplessness….
Chang’s heart sank when the Cairns Aquarium in the state’s far north closed its doors in March.
He even stopped eating in the initial weeks of the lockdown, his keepers said.
They said he missed the human interaction of seeing thousands of faces pass by his tank each day.
—
strange but fair enough, they’re the fish experts
Hello peoples
riot riot
SCIENCE said:
riot riot
what are we rioting about ? just so .. I know what to say to the passers-by?
monkey skipper said:
Hello peoples
Hello ms monkey.
Guess what? Mum will soon be having her heart checked as her GP, it seems, is not convinced that emphysema is her diagnosis. Thanks for the heads-up as even despite it, it has taken this long to get anywhere with it.
monkey skipper said:
SCIENCE said:
riot riot
what are we rioting about ? just so .. I know what to say to the passers-by?
we want earl grey tea declared a crime against humanity.
monkey skipper said:
SCIENCE said:
riot riot
what are we rioting about ? just so .. I know what to say to the passers-by?
Don’t know, but fuel free to come and join in!
http://a.msn.com/01/en-au/BB150QWR?ocid=scu2
Three more babies test positive for rare bacteria at Flinders Medical Centre
Speedy said:
monkey skipper said:
Hello peoples
Hello ms monkey.
Guess what? Mum will soon be having her heart checked as her GP, it seems, is not convinced that emphysema is her diagnosis. Thanks for the heads-up as even despite it, it has taken this long to get anywhere with it.
I hope it is something simple. Breathing and heart issues can go together as I understand things. Maybe one is affecting the other and visa versa.
Arts said:
Speedy said:
sarahs mum said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-04/chang-lonely-fish-falls-hook-line-sinker-for-childrens-letters/12321964I cried again.
I’m pretty pathetic.:( It is a sad story.
I cried too today after reading about an elephant that had died after a horrendous act of animal cruelty. My reaction took me by surprise, as the tears were preceded by an extreme physical discomfort that I had forgotten was a thing. The tears helped. I think I need to take a break from the news.
I read that story too… I have a lot of difficulty with the expression of emotions, but the cruelty to animals stories alway always fuck me over a bit… I read some of the most horrendous accounts of the lowest acts of depravity by humans towards other humans that don’t stir as much in me as these acts towards animals… stupid animals and their helplessness….
Allow me to regale you with the story of the job where a cop emptied his .38 into the head of a cow twice (12 rounds) while the cow just stood there mooing at him… and a dozen people stood around balling their eyes out.
:-(
monkey skipper said:
Speedy said:
monkey skipper said:
Hello peoples
Hello ms monkey.
Guess what? Mum will soon be having her heart checked as her GP, it seems, is not convinced that emphysema is her diagnosis. Thanks for the heads-up as even despite it, it has taken this long to get anywhere with it.
I hope it is something simple. Breathing and heart issues can go together as I understand things. Maybe one is affecting the other and visa versa.
I hope that is it, as then there is a possibility of treatment. A CT scan did not find too much wrong with her lungs, but did find some severe sinus issues. I think with the sinus issues, there’s certainly a possibility that, combined with a heart issue, the symptoms would be the same as emphysema. Not that a heart issue is necessarily preferable, but sometimes they are treatable.
Evening.
Happy in here tonight.
poikilotherm said:
Evening.Happy in here tonight.
don’t you start!!!
monkey skipper said:
http://a.msn.com/01/en-au/BB150QWR?ocid=scu2
Three more babies test positive for rare bacteria at Flinders Medical Centre
© Provided by ABC Health Eight cases have now occurred at Flinders Medical Centre. (ABC News: Leah MacLennan)
Three more babies at an Adelaide hospital have tested positive for a rare bacteria, after health authorities yesterday confirmed five had been infected
.
Southern Adelaide Local Health Network medical services director Diana Lawrence said the latest cases at Flinders Medical Centre had tested positive for the bacteria serratia marcescens but had “no symptoms of infection”.
The outbreak has been linked to a basin, and the bacteria can cause meningitis and other conditions including urinary and respiratory infections.
“Three additional babies have now been confirmed as colonised with serratia but have no symptoms of infection,” Dr Lawrence said in a statement.
“An active investigation is underway to determine any links between the confirmed cases and babies colonised and the hand basin.”
SA Health yesterday revealed one baby at the southern suburbs hospital was in a serious but stable condition after becoming infected with the bacteria.
Another of the infants is showing symptoms and three more had tested positive but were showing no symptoms, SA Health said.
Parents not initially told of outbreak
The bacteria was first detected in the unit two weeks ago but the outbreak was not publicly revealed until yesterday.
Dr Lawrence said antibiotics would be administered “only on a case-by-case basis, dependent on clinical need”.
The hospital is carrying out an investigation into how the bacteria entered the neonatal unit.
One of 200 environmental swabs taken of the unit, from a hand washing basin, came back positive for the bacteria.
The basin has since been removed and replaced.
The hospital is continuing to contact families of recently discharged babies who were directly cared for in the same bay as the basin.
Opposition health spokesman Chris Picton said the State Government should have notified parents sooner.
“Today it’s been revealed in Parliament that the Minister was told about these infections on Monday, but the parents weren’t told until yesterday,” he said.
“The question is, why weren’t those parents of these vulnerable children told immediately?”
Bogsnorkler said:
poikilotherm said:
Evening.Happy in here tonight.
don’t you start!!!
there’s flowers there, are you sure you didn’t mean hippy ¿
poikilotherm said:
Evening.Happy in here tonight.
Well, not too bad, just watch the chap with the 303 callsign, he’s now running around with a colt 38 now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyMggFe9WRQ&app=desktop
0 tonight, -2 tomorrow night, -3 the next night, with a daytime max of 9.
Winter’s here :)
Bubblecar said:
0 tonight, -2 tomorrow night, -3 the next night, with a daytime max of 9.Winter’s here :)
Sure is.
monkey skipper said:
Bubblecar said:
0 tonight, -2 tomorrow night, -3 the next night, with a daytime max of 9.Winter’s here :)
Sure is.
How’s everyone in the monkey skipper household?
Bubblecar said:
0 tonight, -2 tomorrow night, -3 the next night, with a daytime max of 9.Winter’s here :)
Absolutely.
Just had a glance outside and there’s an impressive ring around the 98% full moon.
MrsRule stumbled upon a Pete Evans frying pan heavily discounted today, so she brought it home for me. Disappointingly, it’s actually a pretty good pan, so it didn’t go in the bin when she wasn’t looking – It went into the shed, where a file, then a belt linisher, a drawn file, a nylon scourer, and finally a buffing wheel, turned it into something I can use in the kitchen.
Hooray for knowing about metal.
:-)
Mushroom paradise.
Rule 303 said:
MrsRule stumbled upon a Pete Evans frying pan heavily discounted today, so she brought it home for me. Disappointingly, it’s actually a pretty good pan, so it didn’t go in the bin when she wasn’t looking – It went into the shed, where a file, then a belt linisher, a drawn file, a nylon scourer, and finally a buffing wheel, turned it into something I can use in the kitchen.Hooray for knowing about metal.
:-)
Smarty pants!
Tau.Neutrino said:
Historic Tunnel Hill railway tunnel for lease, though owner says it ‘wouldn’t be a great place to live’Mushroom paradise.
:)
The Rev Dodgson said:
Looks interesting, might watch it later:
Watched/skimmed it.
A bit repetitive, but QI.
Would also be interesting to tie it in with what was happening in India and China at that time.
About to enjoy a fruit salad dessert consisting of: grapes, dates, diced pear, vanilla ice cream, splash of elderflower liqueur, chocolate Irish Cream sauce.
The Rev Dodgson said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Looks interesting, might watch it later:Watched/skimmed it.
A bit repetitive, but QI.
Would also be interesting to tie it in with what was happening in India and China at that time.
So how and why did civilization collapse in that particular year?
monkey skipper said:
Rule 303 said:
MrsRule stumbled upon a Pete Evans frying pan heavily discounted today, so she brought it home for me. Disappointingly, it’s actually a pretty good pan, so it didn’t go in the bin when she wasn’t looking – It went into the shed, where a file, then a belt linisher, a drawn file, a nylon scourer, and finally a buffing wheel, turned it into something I can use in the kitchen.Hooray for knowing about metal.
:-)
Smarty pants!
Three years of tech school – Came out both both scarred and polished.
:-)
Bubblecar said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Looks interesting, might watch it later:Watched/skimmed it.
A bit repetitive, but QI.
Would also be interesting to tie it in with what was happening in India and China at that time.
So how and why did civilization collapse in that particular year?
They don’t know, but probably a combination of things.
And it collapsed over a century, not in just one year.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Historic Tunnel Hill railway tunnel for lease, though owner says it ‘wouldn’t be a great place to live’Mushroom paradise.
Poik and I woud go crazy in there. What with our love of mushrooms and all. They seem to be pearl oyster mushrooms – Pleurotus ostreatus.
Bubblecar said:
About to enjoy a fruit salad dessert consisting of: grapes, dates, diced pear, vanilla ice cream, splash of elderflower liqueur, chocolate Irish Cream sauce.
Nice.
:)
Wish I could join you.
The Rev Dodgson said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Looks interesting, might watch it later:Watched/skimmed it.
A bit repetitive, but QI.
Would also be interesting to tie it in with what was happening in India and China at that time.
They were probably brewing up something in a lab when an accident happened and it got out into the wild and….
Michael V said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Historic Tunnel Hill railway tunnel for lease, though owner says it ‘wouldn’t be a great place to live’Mushroom paradise.
Poik and I woud go crazy in there. What with our love of mushrooms and all. They seem to be pearl oyster mushrooms – Pleurotus ostreatus.
I think the guy needs to work on his sales technique though :)
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Historic Tunnel Hill railway tunnel for lease, though owner says it ‘wouldn’t be a great place to live’Mushroom paradise.
Poik and I woud go crazy in there. What with our love of mushrooms and all. They seem to be pearl oyster mushrooms – Pleurotus ostreatus.
I think the guy needs to work on his sales technique though :)
Maybe more mushroom growers can join in the lease.
I have it on good advice that this image is authentic:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Historic Tunnel Hill railway tunnel for lease, though owner says it ‘wouldn’t be a great place to live’Mushroom paradise.
Poik and I woud go crazy in there. What with our love of mushrooms and all. They seem to be pearl oyster mushrooms – Pleurotus ostreatus.
I think the guy needs to work on his sales technique though :)
Maybe he is after a symbiotic partner in his mushroom-growing business.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Historic Tunnel Hill railway tunnel for lease, though owner says it ‘wouldn’t be a great place to live’Mushroom paradise.
Poik and I woud go crazy in there. What with our love of mushrooms and all. They seem to be pearl oyster mushrooms – Pleurotus ostreatus.
I think the guy needs to work on his sales technique though :)
I met a fellow who owned it but it was more than 20 years ago.
Bubblecar said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Looks interesting, might watch it later:Watched/skimmed it.
A bit repetitive, but QI.
Would also be interesting to tie it in with what was happening in India and China at that time.
So how and why did civilization collapse in that particular year?
I’ve watched this guy before, bu not this particular talk. He is unsure, he lists a few possibilities, mostly to do with natural disasters that caused a sort of “perfect storm” that cut trade routes and diplomatic relations. He reckons that during the bronze age tin was quite rare and was traded between kings and empires. The elites held power because they controlled the distribution of tin and thus bronze in their society. Without this trade it all went to pot and kingdoms collapsed due to over-reliance on rare goods only obtainable through foreign trade.
Rule 303 said:
I have it on good advice that this image is authentic:
Lang Lang. Holden test track.
Bubblecar said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Looks interesting, might watch it later:Watched/skimmed it.
A bit repetitive, but QI.
Would also be interesting to tie it in with what was happening in India and China at that time.
So how and why did civilization collapse in that particular year?
I think the title overstates the case somewhat…
Rule 303 said:
I have it on good advice that this image is authentic:
Well, given that Holden doesn’t (properly) exist any more, because their (constant) subsidies were refused,it doesn’t surprise me that their proving grounds are for sale. Taxpayers probably paid for the property,but General Motors will get the benefit.
Bogsnorkler said:
Rule 303 said:
I have it on good advice that this image is authentic:
Lang Lang. Holden test track.
It would make a nice horse property.
party_pants said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Rule 303 said:
I have it on good advice that this image is authentic:
Lang Lang. Holden test track.
It would make a nice horse property.
If one could be bothered with horses.
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Watched/skimmed it.
A bit repetitive, but QI.
Would also be interesting to tie it in with what was happening in India and China at that time.
So how and why did civilization collapse in that particular year?
I’ve watched this guy before, bu not this particular talk. He is unsure, he lists a few possibilities, mostly to do with natural disasters that caused a sort of “perfect storm” that cut trade routes and diplomatic relations. He reckons that during the bronze age tin was quite rare and was traded between kings and empires. The elites held power because they controlled the distribution of tin and thus bronze in their society. Without this trade it all went to pot and kingdoms collapsed due to over-reliance on rare goods only obtainable through foreign trade.
Good summary.
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:
I have it on good advice that this image is authentic:
Well, given that Holden doesn’t (properly) exist any more, because their (constant) subsidies were refused,it doesn’t surprise me that their proving grounds are for sale. Taxpayers probably paid for the property,but General Motors will get the benefit.
I would not be disappointed to learn that the federal government had seized it in lieu of….
As it stands, GM are now taking the money the feds have allocated to re-training their workforce as fees to their brand new training organisation, but not actually providing any training. The whole debacle is a sick joke told by psychopathic puppet-masters.
Michael V said:
party_pants said:
Bogsnorkler said:Lang Lang. Holden test track.
It would make a nice horse property.
If one could be bothered with horses.
Oh, I couldn’t be.
Rule 303 said:
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:
I have it on good advice that this image is authentic:
Well, given that Holden doesn’t (properly) exist any more, because their (constant) subsidies were refused,it doesn’t surprise me that their proving grounds are for sale. Taxpayers probably paid for the property,but General Motors will get the benefit.
I would not be disappointed to learn that the federal government had seized it in lieu of….
As it stands, GM are now taking the money the feds have allocated to re-training their workforce as fees to their brand new training organisation, but not actually providing any training. The whole debacle is a sick joke told by psychopathic puppet-masters.
Well that’s disappointing.
The Rev Dodgson said:
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:So how and why did civilization collapse in that particular year?
I’ve watched this guy before, bu not this particular talk. He is unsure, he lists a few possibilities, mostly to do with natural disasters that caused a sort of “perfect storm” that cut trade routes and diplomatic relations. He reckons that during the bronze age tin was quite rare and was traded between kings and empires. The elites held power because they controlled the distribution of tin and thus bronze in their society. Without this trade it all went to pot and kingdoms collapsed due to over-reliance on rare goods only obtainable through foreign trade.
Good summary.
Did the program mention the so-called Sea Peoples?
party_pants said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Rule 303 said:
I have it on good advice that this image is authentic:
Lang Lang. Holden test track.
It would make a nice horse property.
Could you imagine fencing that for horses? It’s too big to watch, too flat, to prone to flooding, and the horses would be forever injuring themselves in 100 years worth of improperly discarded industrial waste.
Michael V said:
party_pants said:
Bogsnorkler said:Lang Lang. Holden test track.
It would make a nice horse property.
If one could be bothered with horses.
Surely you have some recipes for horses to go with your cat and dog ones?
-p
Witty Rejoinder said:
Michael V said:
party_pants said:It would make a nice horse property.
If one could be bothered with horses.
Surely you have some recipes for horses to go with your cat and dog ones?
-p
Oops… :-P
Rule 303 said:
…100 years worth of improperly discarded industrial waste.
Hey, old holdens to you!!!
Witty Rejoinder said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
party_pants said:I’ve watched this guy before, bu not this particular talk. He is unsure, he lists a few possibilities, mostly to do with natural disasters that caused a sort of “perfect storm” that cut trade routes and diplomatic relations. He reckons that during the bronze age tin was quite rare and was traded between kings and empires. The elites held power because they controlled the distribution of tin and thus bronze in their society. Without this trade it all went to pot and kingdoms collapsed due to over-reliance on rare goods only obtainable through foreign trade.
Good summary.
Did the program mention the so-called Sea Peoples?
Yes. He does mention them quite a lot. They moved in more to take advantage of the weakened kingdoms and empires rather than being the cause of it. Possibly their migration was caused by the same set of natural disasters in their homelands, wherever they came from.
Bogsnorkler said:
Rule 303 said:…100 years worth of improperly discarded industrial waste.
Hey, old holdens to you!!!
Yes, except for the first 82 years they had no corrosion protection, so….
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:
Bogsnorkler said:Lang Lang. Holden test track.
It would make a nice horse property.
Could you imagine fencing that for horses? It’s too big to watch, too flat, to prone to flooding, and the horses would be forever injuring themselves in 100 years worth of improperly discarded industrial waste.
Sounds like quitter talk.
Rule 303 said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Rule 303 said:…100 years worth of improperly discarded industrial waste.
Hey, old holdens to you!!!
Yes, except for the first 82 years they had no corrosion protection, so….
they used thick metal, no need for any fancy corrosion protection.
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:It would make a nice horse property.
Could you imagine fencing that for horses? It’s too big to watch, too flat, to prone to flooding, and the horses would be forever injuring themselves in 100 years worth of improperly discarded industrial waste.
Sounds like quitter talk.
Have I mentioned that my parents bought an abandoned horse property, where I spent a large chunk of my childhood, for a bargain – for very similar reasons? They were importing Arabian, Egyptian, and Crabbet horses to Australia (back when those breeds were worth money) and learnt through the industry that a large holding was for sale just out of Robe, in SA: 10,000Ac, already under horses, best rainfall in the state. How could you go wrong? Well, you would have to be insane to put horses on it, is how.
I’m not sure exactly what happened, but I think it went tits-up growing sunflower, rape, phallaris, and clover, and running a few thousand sheep and maybe a couple of hundred cows. No horses.
Rule 303 said:
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:
I have it on good advice that this image is authentic:
Well, given that Holden doesn’t (properly) exist any more, because their (constant) subsidies were refused,it doesn’t surprise me that their proving grounds are for sale. Taxpayers probably paid for the property,but General Motors will get the benefit.
I would not be disappointed to learn that the federal government had seized it in lieu of….
As it stands, GM are now taking the money the feds have allocated to re-training their workforce as fees to their brand new training organisation, but not actually providing any training. The whole debacle is a sick joke told by psychopathic puppet-masters.
GM has been sucking the teat of subsidies since before the first Holden (48/215 = FX) was developed.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Michael V said:
party_pants said:It would make a nice horse property.
If one could be bothered with horses.
Surely you have some recipes for horses to go with your cat and dog ones?
-p
Oh, yes. If only people would donate me horses…
party_pants said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Good summary.
Did the program mention the so-called Sea Peoples?
Yes. He does mention them quite a lot. They moved in more to take advantage of the weakened kingdoms and empires rather than being the cause of it. Possibly their migration was caused by the same set of natural disasters in their homelands, wherever they came from.
Yeah. 50 good years and an population explosion and after a dozen poor harvests peaceful farmers can quickly turn into marauding invaders.
Witty Rejoinder said:
party_pants said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Did the program mention the so-called Sea Peoples?
Yes. He does mention them quite a lot. They moved in more to take advantage of the weakened kingdoms and empires rather than being the cause of it. Possibly their migration was caused by the same set of natural disasters in their homelands, wherever they came from.
Yeah. 50 good years and an population explosion and after a dozen poor harvests peaceful farmers can quickly turn into marauding invaders.
You could always watch the talk for yourself. It goes for about an hour. Maybe bookmark it for a rainy day. I find the topic quite interesting. This fellow has numerous talks on the subject which have been posted to YouTube.
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:Could you imagine fencing that for horses? It’s too big to watch, too flat, to prone to flooding, and the horses would be forever injuring themselves in 100 years worth of improperly discarded industrial waste.
Sounds like quitter talk.
Have I mentioned that my parents bought an abandoned horse property, where I spent a large chunk of my childhood, for a bargain – for very similar reasons? They were importing Arabian, Egyptian, and Crabbet horses to Australia (back when those breeds were worth money) and learnt through the industry that a large holding was for sale just out of Robe, in SA: 10,000Ac, already under horses, best rainfall in the state. How could you go wrong? Well, you would have to be insane to put horses on it, is how.
I’m not sure exactly what happened, but I think it went tits-up growing sunflower, rape, phallaris, and clover, and running a few thousand sheep and maybe a couple of hundred cows. No horses.
No, you haven’t mentioned that before.
We don’t take cash here any more
We don’t take customers here any more either.
So there.
Tau.Neutrino said:
We don’t take cash here any moreWe don’t take customers here any more either.
So there.
Retail is dead, man.
How about that corona virus eh?
Ive noticed on JJJ the word pussy is in a lot of songs by male singers groups etc.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Ive noticed on JJJ the word pussy is in a lot of songs by male singers groups etc.
It seems to be increasing.
Has anyone else noticed this.
Tau.Neutrino said:
How about that corona virus eh?
I will never look at Sweden the same way again.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Ive noticed on JJJ the word pussy is in a lot of songs by male singers groups etc.
the correct term is purulent…
SCIENCE said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Ive noticed on JJJ the word pussy is in a lot of songs by male singers groups etc.the correct term is purulent…
Purulent…
oh , discharge
:)
Fun Fact
Record holder for male ejaculation is 3.75 Meters (12 ft 4in) and female ejaculation it is 3.048 M (10 ft)
ref
https://www.cltampa.com/news-views/sex-love/article/20741211/bizarre-sex-world-records
Tomorrow night there’ll be a full moon, light winds.
I’ll see if I can coax myself to take the camera and tripod out to the cemetery around the corner, for some nocturnal snaps.
Bubblecar said:
Tomorrow night there’ll be a full moon, light winds.I’ll see if I can coax myself to take the camera and tripod out to the cemetery around the corner, for some nocturnal snaps.
Better take a cross, some garlic and a bag of onions for good measure.
kettle’s boiling, i’ll make my own coffee, one of the joys of internet relationships is there is no stampede over to the kettle, no arguments about who’s going to make it, no chance someone might secretly stir their discontents into it
i’ve drank a few perfunctory coffees, you can hear the spoon action, there’s no love in it. You need be very careful how you approach a perfunctory coffee, it looks like a coffee, smells like a coffee, tastes like a coffee
transition said:
kettle’s boiling, i’ll make my own coffee, one of the joys of internet relationships is there is no stampede over to the kettle, no arguments about who’s going to make it, no chance someone might secretly stir their discontents into iti’ve drank a few perfunctory coffees, you can hear the spoon action, there’s no love in it. You need be very careful how you approach a perfunctory coffee, it looks like a coffee, smells like a coffee, tastes like a coffee
Being a bit hypersensitive there.
;)
McLaren 650S Spider
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
kettle’s boiling, i’ll make my own coffee, one of the joys of internet relationships is there is no stampede over to the kettle, no arguments about who’s going to make it, no chance someone might secretly stir their discontents into iti’ve drank a few perfunctory coffees, you can hear the spoon action, there’s no love in it. You need be very careful how you approach a perfunctory coffee, it looks like a coffee, smells like a coffee, tastes like a coffee
Being a bit hypersensitive there.
;)
talking shit, I was, not even trying to take myself seriously, perhaps bordering giving up entirely
transition said:
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
kettle’s boiling, i’ll make my own coffee, one of the joys of internet relationships is there is no stampede over to the kettle, no arguments about who’s going to make it, no chance someone might secretly stir their discontents into iti’ve drank a few perfunctory coffees, you can hear the spoon action, there’s no love in it. You need be very careful how you approach a perfunctory coffee, it looks like a coffee, smells like a coffee, tastes like a coffee
Being a bit hypersensitive there.
;)
talking shit, I was, not even trying to take myself seriously, perhaps bordering giving up entirely
You were being humorous.
Pleasantly mellow this end and looking forward to a creative winter. The cold nights stir the dreams and the creative will.
This is how big a redwood is.

It was a dark windy night
https://i.imgur.com/qRwSljj.mp4
Tau.Neutrino said:
dry
Opera sung with passion
https://i.imgur.com/wKU9wSH.mp4
Discovery of Elusive ‘Black’ Nitrogen Structure Finally Solves Chemistry Mystery
https://www.sciencealert.com/a-new-kind-of-black-nitrogen-finally-resolves-a-periodic-table-mystery
Tau.Neutrino said:
Discovery of Elusive ‘Black’ Nitrogen Structure Finally Solves Chemistry Mystery
https://www.sciencealert.com/a-new-kind-of-black-nitrogen-finally-resolves-a-periodic-table-mystery
but is it metallic
PermeateFree said:
This is how big a redwood is.
There’s one you can drive a car through.
Good morning Holidayers. We have a minus one, very still, with both fog and frost. Feels cold.
:)
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. We have a minus one, very still, with both fog and frost. Feels cold.:)
-0.2°C here. feels like -2.3 they say.
I’m not sure what the temp is here but winter has certainly arrived.
monkey skipper said:
I’m not sure what the temp is here but winter has certainly arrived.
Frost on your lawn?
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. We have a minus one, very still, with both fog and frost. Feels cold.:)
Brrrrrrr.
We have 15.8°C, 75% RH, overcast with on-and-off drizzle, with light breezes. Not really winter weather at all. Were did this rain come from? It’s supposed to be sunny in winter!
Meals are planned, so that’s a good thing. Outside work kyboshed.
“Ms Belej was 31 years old when her partner Brandon Osborn killed her in their home on May 1, 2016.
Osborn held a revolver to her head and pulled the trigger, knowing there was one round in the cylinder.
Police initially charged Osborn with murder, but the former bikie gang member said he believed the firing chamber was empty and did not mean to fire the gun.
Prosecutors then downgraded the charge to manslaughter in a plea deal because they would not have been able to disprove Osborn’s claim.”
I would have thought this: Anyone holding a gun to anyones head, even if they actually know it isn’t loaded, should be locked away for the term of their natural life.
Got a bit bored last night, so, tired of soldering paperclips together for fun, I counted up all the people who are likely to drop in here in any given week – And arrived at the meaning of life.
Yep.
Rule 303 said:
Got a bit bored last night, so, tired of soldering paperclips together for fun, I counted up all the people who are likely to drop in here in any given week – And arrived at the meaning of life.Yep.
This is a skill I would like to learn about, this soldering paperclips thing. What type of paperclips?
roughbarked said:
Rule 303 said:
Got a bit bored last night, so, tired of soldering paperclips together for fun, I counted up all the people who are likely to drop in here in any given week – And arrived at the meaning of life.Yep.
This is a skill I would like to learn about, this soldering paperclips thing. What type of paperclips?
Solderable ones.
roughbarked said:
Rule 303 said:
Got a bit bored last night, so, tired of soldering paperclips together for fun, I counted up all the people who are likely to drop in here in any given week – And arrived at the meaning of life.Yep.
This is a skill I would like to learn about, this soldering paperclips thing. What type of paperclips?
The plastic coated ones for the full hallucinogenic effect.
Divine Angel said:
roughbarked said:
Rule 303 said:
Got a bit bored last night, so, tired of soldering paperclips together for fun, I counted up all the people who are likely to drop in here in any given week – And arrived at the meaning of life.Yep.
This is a skill I would like to learn about, this soldering paperclips thing. What type of paperclips?
Solderable ones.
That is why I asked.
roughbarked said:
Rule 303 said:
Got a bit bored last night, so, tired of soldering paperclips together for fun, I counted up all the people who are likely to drop in here in any given week – And arrived at the meaning of life.Yep.
This is a skill I would like to learn about, this soldering paperclips thing. What type of paperclips?
Office Choice, 50mm, bright.
Solder was 99.3% Tin, 0.7% Copper.
Iron set to 370°.
A mate lives in Thailand, working in an Elephant rescue centre (where ‘rescue’ usually means buy from slavery and rehome in a sanctuary). These two just arrived. You can clearly see the imprint of the chains of their previous life above the front right foot.
:-(
‘
Rule 303 said:
roughbarked said:
Rule 303 said:
Got a bit bored last night, so, tired of soldering paperclips together for fun, I counted up all the people who are likely to drop in here in any given week – And arrived at the meaning of life.Yep.
This is a skill I would like to learn about, this soldering paperclips thing. What type of paperclips?
Office Choice, 50mm, bright.
Solder was 99.3% Tin, 0.7% Copper.
Iron set to 370°.
Flux?
roughbarked said:
Rule 303 said:
roughbarked said:This is a skill I would like to learn about, this soldering paperclips thing. What type of paperclips?
Office Choice, 50mm, bright.
Solder was 99.3% Tin, 0.7% Copper.
Iron set to 370°.
Flux?
Core.
Rule 303 said:
roughbarked said:
Rule 303 said:Office Choice, 50mm, bright.
Solder was 99.3% Tin, 0.7% Copper.
Iron set to 370°.
Flux?
Core.
Ah.
Witty Rejoinder said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
party_pants said:I’ve watched this guy before, bu not this particular talk. He is unsure, he lists a few possibilities, mostly to do with natural disasters that caused a sort of “perfect storm” that cut trade routes and diplomatic relations. He reckons that during the bronze age tin was quite rare and was traded between kings and empires. The elites held power because they controlled the distribution of tin and thus bronze in their society. Without this trade it all went to pot and kingdoms collapsed due to over-reliance on rare goods only obtainable through foreign trade.
Good summary.
Did the program mention the so-called Sea Peoples?
Many times, and as “the so-called Sea Peoples”.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-05/news-quiz-for-june-5/12322746
Random guessing for most got me 4/10.
Rule 303 said:
Got a bit bored last night, so, tired of soldering paperclips together for fun, I counted up all the people who are likely to drop in here in any given week – And arrived at the meaning of life.Yep.
Nah.
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:
Got a bit bored last night, so, tired of soldering paperclips together for fun, I counted up all the people who are likely to drop in here in any given week – And arrived at the meaning of life.Yep.
Nah.
>nods<
Morning Pilgrims, nothing to report of any great moment.
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning Pilgrims, nothing to report of any great moment.
well, i’m off to bunnings. I may be a while.
Greetings
https://www.nps.gov/tps/how-to-preserve/briefs/34-composition-ornament.htm
Someone just shared this on FB.
I used to do these with my mum in the Townsville Daily Bulletin when I was a kid.
SO I took a day off yesterday and Netflix and chill’d. I watched a series called History 101.. it’s a pretty light look at some of history’s moments that people should probably know about. I would recommend kids watch it as an entry pack to things that shape the world around us.
dv said:
Someone just shared this on FB.
I used to do these with my mum in the Townsville Daily Bulletin when I was a kid.
Commonly also in the daily Telegraph.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-05/homebuilder-grants-scheme-callout-scott-morrison-politics/12324120
I would have thought in general renovations would average the $50,000 to $90,000 zone. And that would be fairly big ones. The thing about over capitalizing is also very, very valid for us regionals. Most houses are in the $150,000 to $300,000 range in Hamilton. Plunging another $150,000 into such a house is foolish.
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-05/homebuilder-grants-scheme-callout-scott-morrison-politics/12324120I would have thought in general renovations would average the $50,000 to $90,000 zone. And that would be fairly big ones. The thing about over capitalizing is also very, very valid for us regionals. Most houses are in the $150,000 to $300,000 range in Hamilton. Plunging another $150,000 into such a house is foolish.
There will probably be some backpedalling by next week.
another coffee or what, there are a few neurons resistant to participating in the group effort, yeah nah they’re like fuck you that thinking into conformity hurts, they’re forming a loose group of their own, unkept, not showering, swear a lot, some sort of democracy, anarchism, rejecting the global order of my mind. The executive voice is a tolerant business, accommodating, knows well there’s some apoptosis going around, everyone’s losing friends fast
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-05/homebuilder-grants-scheme-callout-scott-morrison-politics/12324120I would have thought in general renovations would average the $50,000 to $90,000 zone. And that would be fairly big ones. The thing about over capitalizing is also very, very valid for us regionals. Most houses are in the $150,000 to $300,000 range in Hamilton. Plunging another $150,000 into such a house is foolish.
There will probably be some backpedalling by next week.
Apparently the application process opened yesterday when it was announced.
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-05/homebuilder-grants-scheme-callout-scott-morrison-politics/12324120I would have thought in general renovations would average the $50,000 to $90,000 zone. And that would be fairly big ones. The thing about over capitalizing is also very, very valid for us regionals. Most houses are in the $150,000 to $300,000 range in Hamilton. Plunging another $150,000 into such a house is foolish.
Well, that’s the thing, it don’t suit everyone. Very few in fact. Presumably you already need to own a fairly expensive house in a capital city first, to make it worth spending $150K on doing renos. There is also an income limit of $200K for couples. I’m not sure how many people there are with this sort of income who own the sort of property that would qualify for such a major reno.

buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-05/homebuilder-grants-scheme-callout-scott-morrison-politics/12324120I would have thought in general renovations would average the $50,000 to $90,000 zone. And that would be fairly big ones. The thing about over capitalizing is also very, very valid for us regionals. Most houses are in the $150,000 to $300,000 range in Hamilton. Plunging another $150,000 into such a house is foolish.
It’s largely an exercise in window-dressing. Offer a scheme to show you’re trying to ‘stimulate’ things, but with the rules set to severely limit the number of eligible applicants, essentially restricting it to ‘the right sort of people’ who have homes where $150,000+ of renos wouldn’t look out of place, and who can afford to stump up the $150k stake in the first place. Dare i say ‘company executives’ and ‘MPs’?
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-05/homebuilder-grants-scheme-callout-scott-morrison-politics/12324120I would have thought in general renovations would average the $50,000 to $90,000 zone. And that would be fairly big ones. The thing about over capitalizing is also very, very valid for us regionals. Most houses are in the $150,000 to $300,000 range in Hamilton. Plunging another $150,000 into such a house is foolish.
It’s largely an exercise in window-dressing. Offer a scheme to show you’re trying to ‘stimulate’ things, but with the rules set to severely limit the number of eligible applicants, essentially restricting it to ‘the right sort of people’ who have homes where $150,000+ of renos wouldn’t look out of place, and who can afford to stump up the $150k stake in the first place. Dare i say ‘company executives’ and ‘MPs’?
It’s a long way for a building in each school and insulation in all the roofs.
Walking around out front I found some birds nest fungi. I’ve usually only found that out the back under the Casuarinas I planted.
roughbarked said:
Walking around out front I found some birds nest fungi. I’ve usually only found that out the back under the Casuarinas I planted.
Odd looking critters.
Lunch: a bowl of little dead fish* eaten with a teaspoon.
*brisling sardines
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-05/homebuilder-grants-scheme-callout-scott-morrison-politics/12324120I would have thought in general renovations would average the $50,000 to $90,000 zone. And that would be fairly big ones. The thing about over capitalizing is also very, very valid for us regionals. Most houses are in the $150,000 to $300,000 range in Hamilton. Plunging another $150,000 into such a house is foolish.
It’s largely an exercise in window-dressing. Offer a scheme to show you’re trying to ‘stimulate’ things, but with the rules set to severely limit the number of eligible applicants, essentially restricting it to ‘the right sort of people’ who have homes where $150,000+ of renos wouldn’t look out of place, and who can afford to stump up the $150k stake in the first place. Dare i say ‘company executives’ and ‘MPs’?


Lunch: microwaved potato pieces with Laoganma Black Bean Chilli Oil. Yummo.

captain_spalding said:
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-05/homebuilder-grants-scheme-callout-scott-morrison-politics/12324120I would have thought in general renovations would average the $50,000 to $90,000 zone. And that would be fairly big ones. The thing about over capitalizing is also very, very valid for us regionals. Most houses are in the $150,000 to $300,000 range in Hamilton. Plunging another $150,000 into such a house is foolish.
It’s largely an exercise in window-dressing. Offer a scheme to show you’re trying to ‘stimulate’ things, but with the rules set to severely limit the number of eligible applicants, essentially restricting it to ‘the right sort of people’ who have homes where $150,000+ of renos wouldn’t look out of place, and who can afford to stump up the $150k stake in the first place. Dare i say ‘company executives’ and ‘MPs’?
To be fair, it does help winkle some money from those who can afford it (savings or borrowings), and then spread that money around.
Bubblecar said:
roughbarked said:
Walking around out front I found some birds nest fungi. I’ve usually only found that out the back under the Casuarinas I planted.
Odd looking critters.
They are very pretty. The bird’s nest fungi we had in Brisbane were silver inside.
looked at ride-on mower parts, mostly all there, except seal for transmission input shaft, got bearing etc, but no seal, so look at that properly in couple days
engine parts all there, had to buy full camshaft with decompressor parts, decompressor is mounted on or part of camshaft, has a centrifugal arrangement to add an extra bump on camshaft, keeps a valve open for first half of compression stroke, at cranking RPM, so essentially if it was a 300cc engine(for example) it only compresses half the chamber, the last half, that’s the idea, then as engine goes up to idle speed or higher centrifugal arrangement returns normal cam profile on that lobe. The spring isn’t much, probably gets a lot of vibration, or whatever, they break. Get a picture of that later, as is a common problem, they are very difficult to crank when decompressor doesn’t work, even with two running vehicles connected with jumper leads
and there’s new valves with parts, lifters or whatever, full gasket kit, not sure use all them
bowl of pasta landed …lunch
Bubblecar said:
Lunch: a bowl of little dead fish* eaten with a teaspoon.*brisling sardines
Home at last. All is good.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-52885693
Take your time with this one, some tricky ones in it.
I pretty much nailed it second time through.
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
Lunch: a bowl of little dead fish* eaten with a teaspoon.*brisling sardines
Home at last. All is good.
Splendid.
Boris: thanks for posting about your tool porn having arrived.
I re-visited Hare & Forbes, and their specials cattle dog had something I was thinking about how to make yesterday. A welding table with removable legs. They had wheelable, fold-up welding table (WT-01). One has been purchased.
Thanks again.
:)
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
Lunch: a bowl of little dead fish* eaten with a teaspoon.*brisling sardines
Home at last. All is good.
No little mysteries, like a bottle knocked over in the pantry or chewed up nesting paper………..?
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
Lunch: a bowl of little dead fish* eaten with a teaspoon.*brisling sardines
Home at last. All is good.
Excellent!
:)
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
Lunch: a bowl of little dead fish* eaten with a teaspoon.*brisling sardines
Home at last. All is good.
Splendid.
Peak Warming Man said:
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
Lunch: a bowl of little dead fish* eaten with a teaspoon.*brisling sardines
Home at last. All is good.
No little mysteries, like a bottle knocked over in the pantry or chewed up nesting paper………..?
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:Home at last. All is good.
Splendid.
Nine days without a drink. Methinks the Crimson Cabernet might get a bit of a nudge.
9 days.
Tamb wins the Forum’s Camel Award.
captain_spalding said:
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:Splendid.
Nine days without a drink. Methinks the Crimson Cabernet might get a bit of a nudge.9 days.
Tamb wins the Forum’s Camel Award.
Tamb said:
captain_spalding said:
Tamb said:Nine days without a drink. Methinks the Crimson Cabernet might get a bit of a nudge.
9 days.
Tamb wins the Forum’s Camel Award.
And Friday is hump day. How fortuitous.
how is Friday hump day…
Bubblecar said:
Lunch: a bowl of little dead fish* eaten with a teaspoon.*brisling sardines
with some vinegar??
dv said:
Tamb said:
captain_spalding said:9 days.
Tamb wins the Forum’s Camel Award.
And Friday is hump day. How fortuitous.how is Friday hump day…
after the 2020 Year Of The Virus, it’s Bacterian Week
dv said:
Tamb said:
captain_spalding said:9 days.
Tamb wins the Forum’s Camel Award.
And Friday is hump day. How fortuitous.how is Friday hump day…
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
Tamb said:And Friday is hump day. How fortuitous.
how is Friday hump day…
after the 2020 Year Of The Virus, it’s Bacterian Week
They have two.
dv said:
Tamb said:
captain_spalding said:9 days.
Tamb wins the Forum’s Camel Award.
And Friday is hump day. How fortuitous.how is Friday hump day…
Friday is the new Wednesday.
The hump is now not officially passed until you’ve dodged both work and the boss all day on Friday, managed to clock off a few minutes early, made the top at the bottle shop, and arrived home, at which point you reef sails, lash the wheel in place, retire below deck, and let things steer themselves.
Tamb said:
dv said:
Tamb said:And Friday is hump day. How fortuitous.
how is Friday hump day…
I don’t know. Karen from facebook posted that it is & she is always right.
I guess it would make sense if the week is 11 days long so yeah why not.
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
Tamb said:And Friday is hump day. How fortuitous.
how is Friday hump day…
after the 2020 Year Of The Virus, it’s Bacterian Week
So double hump day?
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
Tamb said:And Friday is hump day. How fortuitous.
how is Friday hump day…
after the 2020 Year Of The Virus, it’s Bacterian Week
clever

Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:Home at last. All is good.
Splendid.
Nine days without a drink. Methinks the Crimson Cabernet might get a bit of a nudge.
:)
captain_spalding said:
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:Splendid.
Nine days without a drink. Methinks the Crimson Cabernet might get a bit of a nudge.9 days.
Tamb wins the Forum’s Camel Award.
LOL
transition said:
looked at ride-on mower parts, mostly all there, except seal for transmission input shaft, got bearing etc, but no seal, so look at that properly in couple daysengine parts all there, had to buy full camshaft with decompressor parts, decompressor is mounted on or part of camshaft, has a centrifugal arrangement to add an extra bump on camshaft, keeps a valve open for first half of compression stroke, at cranking RPM, so essentially if it was a 300cc engine(for example) it only compresses half the chamber, the last half, that’s the idea, then as engine goes up to idle speed or higher centrifugal arrangement returns normal cam profile on that lobe. The spring isn’t much, probably gets a lot of vibration, or whatever, they break. Get a picture of that later, as is a common problem, they are very difficult to crank when decompressor doesn’t work, even with two running vehicles connected with jumper leads
and there’s new valves with parts, lifters or whatever, full gasket kit, not sure use all them
bowl of pasta landed …lunch
Michael V said:
Boris: thanks for posting about your tool porn having arrived.I re-visited Hare & Forbes, and their specials cattle dog had something I was thinking about how to make yesterday. A welding table with removable legs. They had wheelable, fold-up welding table (WT-01). One has been purchased.
Thanks again.
:)
No probs.
:-)
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
Tamb said:Nine days without a drink. Methinks the Crimson Cabernet might get a bit of a nudge.
9 days.
Tamb wins the Forum’s Camel Award.
LOL
Porn star who makes penis candles arrested for murder after psychedelic toad venom ritual
https://boingboing.net/2020/06/04/porn-star-who-makes-penis-cand.html
party_pants said:
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-05/homebuilder-grants-scheme-callout-scott-morrison-politics/12324120I would have thought in general renovations would average the $50,000 to $90,000 zone. And that would be fairly big ones. The thing about over capitalizing is also very, very valid for us regionals. Most houses are in the $150,000 to $300,000 range in Hamilton. Plunging another $150,000 into such a house is foolish.
Well, that’s the thing, it don’t suit everyone. Very few in fact. Presumably you already need to own a fairly expensive house in a capital city first, to make it worth spending $150K on doing renos. There is also an income limit of $200K for couples. I’m not sure how many people there are with this sort of income who own the sort of property that would qualify for such a major reno.
At least in Sydney, almost everyone who owns a house and has a combined income less than $200K.
There would be quite a few of those.
That said, I agree this grant system is targeting the wrong people.
An excellent Wilcox cartoon in today’s SMH says it all.
The Rev Dodgson said:
party_pants said:
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-05/homebuilder-grants-scheme-callout-scott-morrison-politics/12324120I would have thought in general renovations would average the $50,000 to $90,000 zone. And that would be fairly big ones. The thing about over capitalizing is also very, very valid for us regionals. Most houses are in the $150,000 to $300,000 range in Hamilton. Plunging another $150,000 into such a house is foolish.
Well, that’s the thing, it don’t suit everyone. Very few in fact. Presumably you already need to own a fairly expensive house in a capital city first, to make it worth spending $150K on doing renos. There is also an income limit of $200K for couples. I’m not sure how many people there are with this sort of income who own the sort of property that would qualify for such a major reno.
At least in Sydney, almost everyone who owns a house and has a combined income less than $200K.
There would be quite a few of those.
That said, I agree this grant system is targeting the wrong people.
An excellent Wilcox cartoon in today’s SMH says it all.
sarahs mum said:
Porn star who makes penis candles arrested for murder after psychedelic toad venom ritualhttps://boingboing.net/2020/06/04/porn-star-who-makes-penis-cand.html
It’s got to get a prize for a surprising headline.
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
Porn star who makes penis candles arrested for murder after psychedelic toad venom ritualhttps://boingboing.net/2020/06/04/porn-star-who-makes-penis-cand.html
It’s got to get a prize for a surprising headline.
http://r33b.net/
I think the teacher means recognise, not remember.
sarahs mum said:
Porn star who makes penis candles arrested for murder after psychedelic toad venom ritualhttps://boingboing.net/2020/06/04/porn-star-who-makes-penis-cand.html
Are they penis-shaped or, in the vein of Gwyneth Paltrow’s candles, do they smell like his penis?
Divine Angel said:
I think the teacher means recognise, not remember.
Probably Grammarly told her to vary the wording.
Divine Angel said:
I think the teacher means recognise, not remember.
probably really means associate, of word-concepts, but words are pictures really, become, so you’d have a memory or template of the word shape, sort of a signature, which is in memory
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
Porn star who makes penis candles arrested for murder after psychedelic toad venom ritualhttps://boingboing.net/2020/06/04/porn-star-who-makes-penis-cand.html
It’s got to get a prize for a surprising headline.
There’s certainly a lot going on there.
The good news is that I’ve got by OED access back
dv said:
The good news is that I’ve got by OED access back
The bad news is that you have a stuffed-up nose.
transition said:
Divine Angel said:
I think the teacher means recognise, not remember.
probably really means associate, of word-concepts, but words are pictures really, become, so you’d have a memory or template of the word shape, sort of a signature, which is in memory
interesting in fact, as the feel-see sense tracks the emerging concept associated with the word viewed, the shape of the word, resolves both, simultaneously. Does my head in focusing on that, probably adds an extra layer of processing, or more of another type, certainly correction systems involved in that, I can feel them working
dv said:
The good news is that I’ve got by OED access back
What does it have to say about spelling “through” as “thru”?
(Just been reading a discussion in an engineering forum about whether that spelling should be allowed in public).
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
The good news is that I’ve got by OED access back
What does it have to say about spelling “through” as “thru”?
(Just been reading a discussion in an engineering forum about whether that spelling should be allowed in public).
“In the United States the form thru has long been a favourite of spelling reformers (compare quot. 1879 at ε. forms), but although it remains widely used, especially in signs and notices and in advertising and commercial contexts, it has not gained universal acceptance and is avoided in formal writing.”
Note though that it did have some currency in middle English.
“Þe sune beme Gas thru þe glas.” from the Cursor Mundi, circa 1300.
Bubblecar said:
Tomorrow night there’ll be a full moon, light winds.I’ll see if I can coax myself to take the camera and tripod out to the cemetery around the corner, for some nocturnal snaps.
Decided against it as it will not only be cold but exceedingly damp, after this drizzly afternoon.
The Rev Dodgson said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
party_pants said:Well, that’s the thing, it don’t suit everyone. Very few in fact. Presumably you already need to own a fairly expensive house in a capital city first, to make it worth spending $150K on doing renos. There is also an income limit of $200K for couples. I’m not sure how many people there are with this sort of income who own the sort of property that would qualify for such a major reno.
At least in Sydney, almost everyone who owns a house and has a combined income less than $200K.
There would be quite a few of those.
That said, I agree this grant system is targeting the wrong people.
An excellent Wilcox cartoon in today’s SMH says it all.
how do we get money into the hands of builders to spend, while only ultimately helping out our well to do mates, without looking like a blatant cash drop into the richest bracket (who being lawyers and doctors might not be our corrupt mates)
FNDC called and open, for those starting early.

Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Tomorrow night there’ll be a full moon, light winds.I’ll see if I can coax myself to take the camera and tripod out to the cemetery around the corner, for some nocturnal snaps.
Decided against it as it will not only be cold but exceedingly damp, after this drizzly afternoon.
We’ve had a lovely sunny afternoon. I have been in to Auntie Annie’s and earnt the petrol money for the month – her grass is all mowed. Then I did some massacre-ing in the sage bed. I now smell quite herbally, of ornamental sage and lemon balm. Then I found the rose in that bed. And was amused to find that the only rose I forgot to prune last year was called Remember Me. After amusing myself with that, I got out the cutting implements and fixed the problem.
I still need to do a bit more tidying up underneath and I need to put the prunings of the sage bush through the chipper. I forgot to do a “before” photo of that, it’s the thing left of the rose, and was about 4 or 5 times bigger before I started attacking it. But that can wait until tomorrow. Or whenever the next dry day happens.
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
The good news is that I’ve got by OED access back
What does it have to say about spelling “through” as “thru”?
(Just been reading a discussion in an engineering forum about whether that spelling should be allowed in public).
“In the United States the form thru has long been a favourite of spelling reformers (compare quot. 1879 at ε. forms), but although it remains widely used, especially in signs and notices and in advertising and commercial contexts, it has not gained universal acceptance and is avoided in formal writing.”
Note though that it did have some currency in middle English.
“Þe sune beme Gas thru þe glas.” from the Cursor Mundi, circa 1300.
Thanks DV, I’ll pass that on to my Merkin engineer mates.
Bubblecar said:
FNDC called and open, for those starting early.
We actually have got one of those glasses here. Someone gave it to Mr buffy for his 60th birthday. I’m always trying to work out where to put the thing.
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Tomorrow night there’ll be a full moon, light winds.I’ll see if I can coax myself to take the camera and tripod out to the cemetery around the corner, for some nocturnal snaps.
Decided against it as it will not only be cold but exceedingly damp, after this drizzly afternoon.
We’ve had a lovely sunny afternoon. I have been in to Auntie Annie’s and earnt the petrol money for the month – her grass is all mowed. Then I did some massacre-ing in the sage bed. I now smell quite herbally, of ornamental sage and lemon balm. Then I found the rose in that bed. And was amused to find that the only rose I forgot to prune last year was called Remember Me. After amusing myself with that, I got out the cutting implements and fixed the problem.
I still need to do a bit more tidying up underneath and I need to put the prunings of the sage bush through the chipper. I forgot to do a “before” photo of that, it’s the thing left of the rose, and was about 4 or 5 times bigger before I started attacking it. But that can wait until tomorrow. Or whenever the next dry day happens.
A busy and healthy sort of day.
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
FNDC called and open, for those starting early.
We actually have got one of those glasses here. Someone gave it to Mr buffy for his 60th birthday. I’m always trying to work out where to put the thing.
You could use it as a large vase.
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
FNDC called and open, for those starting early.
We actually have got one of those glasses here. Someone gave it to Mr buffy for his 60th birthday. I’m always trying to work out where to put the thing.
You could use it as a large vase.
It’s too big for that really. And not very stable. You’d have to have long stems and then the thing would be very tippable.
Anyway, I guess I’ll just keep moving it around for a few more years.
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:We actually have got one of those glasses here. Someone gave it to Mr buffy for his 60th birthday. I’m always trying to work out where to put the thing.
You could use it as a large vase.
It’s too big for that really. And not very stable. You’d have to have long stems and then the thing would be very tippable.
Anyway, I guess I’ll just keep moving it around for a few more years.
Maybe fill it with pleasing seashells or suchlike.
Perhaps I could break out a floating candle and burn it in there.
:)
(I have still got some floating candle from the 1980s, stashed away in a drawer somewhere)
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Tomorrow night there’ll be a full moon, light winds.I’ll see if I can coax myself to take the camera and tripod out to the cemetery around the corner, for some nocturnal snaps.
Decided against it as it will not only be cold but exceedingly damp, after this drizzly afternoon.
I’ve lit the fire. I’m having visitors tonight.( Yes. Amazing.) I’ll try to make the place toasty.
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:We actually have got one of those glasses here. Someone gave it to Mr buffy for his 60th birthday. I’m always trying to work out where to put the thing.
You could use it as a large vase.
It’s too big for that really. And not very stable. You’d have to have long stems and then the thing would be very tippable.
Anyway, I guess I’ll just keep moving it around for a few more years.
turn it into a water garden
Food report. I am eating butter chicken tonight and Mr buffy is eating chicken vindaloo. He’s ordered saffron rice to go with it. Normally I manage to eat half my serve of butter chicken. I’m very happy our local Indian lady is cooking for takeaway again.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Tomorrow night there’ll be a full moon, light winds.I’ll see if I can coax myself to take the camera and tripod out to the cemetery around the corner, for some nocturnal snaps.
Decided against it as it will not only be cold but exceedingly damp, after this drizzly afternoon.
I’ve lit the fire. I’m having visitors tonight.( Yes. Amazing.) I’ll try to make the place toasty.
:)
Who’s visiting?
SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
The Rev Dodgson said:At least in Sydney, almost everyone who owns a house and has a combined income less than $200K.
There would be quite a few of those.
That said, I agree this grant system is targeting the wrong people.
An excellent Wilcox cartoon in today’s SMH says it all.
how do we get money into the hands of builders to spend, while only ultimately helping out our well to do mates, without looking like a blatant cash drop into the richest bracket (who being lawyers and doctors might not be our corrupt mates)
I can see that they are flashing money in front of a demographic that hasn’t had a huge amount of relief.But there are some with fuck all that have got fuck all.
This isn’t new buildings for all schools or insulation in all roofs.
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:You could use it as a large vase.
It’s too big for that really. And not very stable. You’d have to have long stems and then the thing would be very tippable.
Anyway, I guess I’ll just keep moving it around for a few more years.
Maybe fill it with pleasing seashells or suchlike.
sarahs mum said:
SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
how do we get money into the hands of builders to spend, while only ultimately helping out our well to do mates, without looking like a blatant cash drop into the richest bracket (who being lawyers and doctors might not be our corrupt mates)
I can see that they are flashing money in front of a demographic that hasn’t had a huge amount of relief.But there are some with fuck all that have got fuck all.
This isn’t new buildings for all schools or insulation in all roofs.
At the state level, some might say that building more public housing would be a better target for stimulus than building a new airport.
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:We actually have got one of those glasses here. Someone gave it to Mr buffy for his 60th birthday. I’m always trying to work out where to put the thing.
You could use it as a large vase.
It’s too big for that really. And not very stable. You’d have to have long stems and then the thing would be very tippable.
Anyway, I guess I’ll just keep moving it around for a few more years.
regifting.
Tonight’s dinner will be a tasty but no-frills affair of tomato soup followed by beef, pepper & worcester bangers served with home-made chips and mixed greens (sprouts, broccoli, peas).
Dessert later will be a repeat of last night’s fruit salad with elderflower liqueur, ice cream and fine Irish Cream chocolate sauce.
The Rev Dodgson said:
sarahs mum said:
SCIENCE said:how do we get money into the hands of builders to spend, while only ultimately helping out our well to do mates, without looking like a blatant cash drop into the richest bracket (who being lawyers and doctors might not be our corrupt mates)
I can see that they are flashing money in front of a demographic that hasn’t had a huge amount of relief.But there are some with fuck all that have got fuck all.
This isn’t new buildings for all schools or insulation in all roofs.
At the state level, some might say that building more public housing would be a better target for stimulus than building a new airport.
How a bout a new stadium then?
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:We actually have got one of those glasses here. Someone gave it to Mr buffy for his 60th birthday. I’m always trying to work out where to put the thing.
You could use it as a large vase.
It’s too big for that really. And not very stable. You’d have to have long stems and then the thing would be very tippable.
Anyway, I guess I’ll just keep moving it around for a few more years.
regifting.
Fill it full of bikkies and give it to someone.
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:You could use it as a large vase.
It’s too big for that really. And not very stable. You’d have to have long stems and then the thing would be very tippable.
Anyway, I guess I’ll just keep moving it around for a few more years.
regifting.
Couple of gold fish in it perhaps
buffy said:
Perhaps I could break out a floating candle and burn it in there.:)
(I have still got some floating candle from the 1980s, stashed away in a drawer somewhere)
Oh did I sell thousands of those…
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:You could use it as a large vase.
It’s too big for that really. And not very stable. You’d have to have long stems and then the thing would be very tippable.
Anyway, I guess I’ll just keep moving it around for a few more years.
regifting.
Fill it full of bikkies and give it to someone.
Good idea.
HUNTINGTON BEACH, Calif. (KTLA/AP) — One person was arrested after eight homeless people were given poisoned food that sent several to the hospital in Huntington Beach over the course of about a week in mid-May, authorities said.
The victims were given food laced with oleoresin capsicum, “which is twice as strong as the pepper spray used by police, and their reactions to the poisoned food were filmed,” according to an advisory from the Orange County District Attorney’s Office.
“The victims suffered a variety of symptoms including seizure-like symptoms, difficulty breathing, vomiting, and intense mouth and stomach pain,” the announcement said. “Several of the victims required hospitalization.” No deaths were reported.
———-
TF is wrong with people?
buffy said:
Perhaps I could break out a floating candle and burn it in there.:)
(I have still got some floating candle from the 1980s, stashed away in a drawer somewhere)
Oh did I sell thousands of those…
Some people used them in the bath and got burnt and then bought more to do same.
party_pants said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
sarahs mum said:I can see that they are flashing money in front of a demographic that hasn’t had a huge amount of relief.But there are some with fuck all that have got fuck all.
This isn’t new buildings for all schools or insulation in all roofs.
At the state level, some might say that building more public housing would be a better target for stimulus than building a new airport.
How a bout a new stadium then?
Arts said:
HUNTINGTON BEACH, Calif. (KTLA/AP) — One person was arrested after eight homeless people were given poisoned food that sent several to the hospital in Huntington Beach over the course of about a week in mid-May, authorities said.The victims were given food laced with oleoresin capsicum, “which is twice as strong as the pepper spray used by police, and their reactions to the poisoned food were filmed,” according to an advisory from the Orange County District Attorney’s Office.
“The victims suffered a variety of symptoms including seizure-like symptoms, difficulty breathing, vomiting, and intense mouth and stomach pain,” the announcement said. “Several of the victims required hospitalization.” No deaths were reported.
———-
TF is wrong with people?
To make someone(s) internet infamous perhaps, but yeah
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:Decided against it as it will not only be cold but exceedingly damp, after this drizzly afternoon.
I’ve lit the fire. I’m having visitors tonight.( Yes. Amazing.) I’ll try to make the place toasty.
:)
Who’s visiting?
The engineer lady and her boyfriend that are building a humpy on a very very steep embankment down the road. Matt, also from down the road, who was recently fired by Rupert. And I think hes happy. And Oscar the dog that hunts and kills squeaky toys. I should pick up all the squeaky toys.
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:It’s too big for that really. And not very stable. You’d have to have long stems and then the thing would be very tippable.
Anyway, I guess I’ll just keep moving it around for a few more years.
Maybe fill it with pleasing seashells or suchlike.
A terrarium perhaps?
That works for me.
sarahs mum said:
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:Maybe fill it with pleasing seashells or suchlike.
A terrarium perhaps?That works for me.
Wouldn’t it need drainage holes?
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:I’ve lit the fire. I’m having visitors tonight.( Yes. Amazing.) I’ll try to make the place toasty.
:)
Who’s visiting?
The engineer lady and her boyfriend that are building a humpy on a very very steep embankment down the road. Matt, also from down the road, who was recently fired by Rupert. And I think hes happy. And Oscar the dog that hunts and kills squeaky toys. I should pick up all the squeaky toys.
:)
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Tamb said:A terrarium perhaps?
That works for me.
Wouldn’t it need drainage holes?
No, terrariums don’t normally have drainage holes.
The Rev Dodgson said:
sarahs mum said:
SCIENCE said:how do we get money into the hands of builders to spend, while only ultimately helping out our well to do mates, without looking like a blatant cash drop into the richest bracket (who being lawyers and doctors might not be our corrupt mates)
I can see that they are flashing money in front of a demographic that hasn’t had a huge amount of relief.But there are some with fuck all that have got fuck all.
This isn’t new buildings for all schools or insulation in all roofs.
At the state level, some might say that building more public housing would be a better target for stimulus than building a new airport.
Public and low cost housing. There are so many I know that are such good tenants.They can prove that they canpay $450 a week on time all the time.
On the subject of those who are missing out. Most of the uni staff these days are hired by the semester. They might be teaching the second week of semester by the time they know they are employed till week 13. They might have been doing this for years. But because they are hired in this manner they have to wait for the dole. They can’t get permanency.
Cymek said:
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:It’s too big for that really. And not very stable. You’d have to have long stems and then the thing would be very tippable.
Anyway, I guess I’ll just keep moving it around for a few more years.
regifting.
Couple of gold fish in it perhaps
That would be sad. even a male Siamese fighting fish would be a bit sad.
Arts said:
HUNTINGTON BEACH, Calif. (KTLA/AP) — One person was arrested after eight homeless people were given poisoned food that sent several to the hospital in Huntington Beach over the course of about a week in mid-May, authorities said.The victims were given food laced with oleoresin capsicum, “which is twice as strong as the pepper spray used by police, and their reactions to the poisoned food were filmed,” according to an advisory from the Orange County District Attorney’s Office.
“The victims suffered a variety of symptoms including seizure-like symptoms, difficulty breathing, vomiting, and intense mouth and stomach pain,” the announcement said. “Several of the victims required hospitalization.” No deaths were reported.
———-
TF is wrong with people?
:(
The Rev Dodgson said:
sarahs mum said:
SCIENCE said:how do we get money into the hands of builders to spend, while only ultimately helping out our well to do mates, without looking like a blatant cash drop into the richest bracket (who being lawyers and doctors might not be our corrupt mates)
I can see that they are flashing money in front of a demographic that hasn’t had a huge amount of relief.But there are some with fuck all that have got fuck all.
This isn’t new buildings for all schools or insulation in all roofs.
At the state level, some might say that building more public housing would be a better target for stimulus than building a new airport.
Hey here’s another idea if the point of this is to keep builders busy…
70000 school students in NSW are still in temporary demountable classrooms. Maybe build some classrooms?
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:
HUNTINGTON BEACH, Calif. (KTLA/AP) — One person was arrested after eight homeless people were given poisoned food that sent several to the hospital in Huntington Beach over the course of about a week in mid-May, authorities said.The victims were given food laced with oleoresin capsicum, “which is twice as strong as the pepper spray used by police, and their reactions to the poisoned food were filmed,” according to an advisory from the Orange County District Attorney’s Office.
“The victims suffered a variety of symptoms including seizure-like symptoms, difficulty breathing, vomiting, and intense mouth and stomach pain,” the announcement said. “Several of the victims required hospitalization.” No deaths were reported.
———-
TF is wrong with people?
:(
Crystal Ball tells me this dude is a future Republican House Speaker
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
sarahs mum said:I can see that they are flashing money in front of a demographic that hasn’t had a huge amount of relief.But there are some with fuck all that have got fuck all.
This isn’t new buildings for all schools or insulation in all roofs.
At the state level, some might say that building more public housing would be a better target for stimulus than building a new airport.
Hey here’s another idea if the point of this is to keep builders busy…
70000 school students in NSW are still in temporary demountable classrooms. Maybe build some classrooms?
Not cheap…but funding for a bunch of geriatric teaching hospitals with emergency facilities. The state hospitals complain about those patients choking facilities.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Tomorrow night there’ll be a full moon, light winds.I’ll see if I can coax myself to take the camera and tripod out to the cemetery around the corner, for some nocturnal snaps.
Decided against it as it will not only be cold but exceedingly damp, after this drizzly afternoon.
I’ve lit the fire. I’m having visitors tonight.( Yes. Amazing.) I’ll try to make the place toasty.
Nice.
:)
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:Decided against it as it will not only be cold but exceedingly damp, after this drizzly afternoon.
I’ve lit the fire. I’m having visitors tonight.( Yes. Amazing.) I’ll try to make the place toasty.
Nice.
:)
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:You could use it as a large vase.
It’s too big for that really. And not very stable. You’d have to have long stems and then the thing would be very tippable.
Anyway, I guess I’ll just keep moving it around for a few more years.
regifting.
Fill it full of bikkies and give it to someone.
That is a possibility. I like that one.
Tamb said:
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:I’ve lit the fire. I’m having visitors tonight.( Yes. Amazing.) I’ll try to make the place toasty.
Nice.
:)
I’m not having visitors but I’ve lit the fire anyway.
Quite warm in the Perth area
Arts said:
HUNTINGTON BEACH, Calif. (KTLA/AP) — One person was arrested after eight homeless people were given poisoned food that sent several to the hospital in Huntington Beach over the course of about a week in mid-May, authorities said.The victims were given food laced with oleoresin capsicum, “which is twice as strong as the pepper spray used by police, and their reactions to the poisoned food were filmed,” according to an advisory from the Orange County District Attorney’s Office.
“The victims suffered a variety of symptoms including seizure-like symptoms, difficulty breathing, vomiting, and intense mouth and stomach pain,” the announcement said. “Several of the victims required hospitalization.” No deaths were reported.
———-
TF is wrong with people?
Capsicum oleoresin is a legitimate food colouring, used in Tom Yum soup (Thai) and many other Asian red meals. It is usually only weakly chilli-flavoured and has to have chilli added to get the spicy flavour into food.
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:At the state level, some might say that building more public housing would be a better target for stimulus than building a new airport.
Hey here’s another idea if the point of this is to keep builders busy…
70000 school students in NSW are still in temporary demountable classrooms. Maybe build some classrooms?
Not cheap…but funding for a bunch of geriatric teaching hospitals with emergency facilities. The state hospitals complain about those patients choking facilities.
I mean we’d be talking about something like 3000 classrooms: perhaps 750 blocks. Should be achievable.
But I’m happy with your idea. :-)
Michael V said:
Arts said:
HUNTINGTON BEACH, Calif. (KTLA/AP) — One person was arrested after eight homeless people were given poisoned food that sent several to the hospital in Huntington Beach over the course of about a week in mid-May, authorities said.The victims were given food laced with oleoresin capsicum, “which is twice as strong as the pepper spray used by police, and their reactions to the poisoned food were filmed,” according to an advisory from the Orange County District Attorney’s Office.
“The victims suffered a variety of symptoms including seizure-like symptoms, difficulty breathing, vomiting, and intense mouth and stomach pain,” the announcement said. “Several of the victims required hospitalization.” No deaths were reported.
———-
TF is wrong with people?
Capsicum oleoresin is a legitimate food colouring, used in Tom Yum soup (Thai) and many other Asian red meals. It is usually only weakly chilli-flavoured and has to have chilli added to get the spicy flavour into food.
Filming in though would make it seem likely that something nefarious was planned
Cymek said:
Filming in though would make it seem likely that something nefarious was planned
“Capsicum oleoresin is contained in pepper sprays when suspended in water, and acts an active lachrymatory agent that induces irritation, lacrimation, pain, and temporary blindness when in contact with eyes. Due to its analgesic properties, capsicum oleoresin is used to temporarily relieve of minor aches and pains of muscles and joints as an active ingredient in topical OTC preparations and has been studied for management of different models of neuropathic pain 1. It is suggested that capsicum oleoresin is a rich source of phytochemicals that consist of phenolic compounds with antioxidant and antidiabetic activities 2.”
https://www.drugbank.ca/drugs/DB11131
Just heard a rumour that Henry Jones sold a piece. Let’s celebrate.
sarahs mum said:
Just heard a rumour that Henry Jones sold a piece. Let’s celebrate.
Well done, cheers:)
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Just heard a rumour that Henry Jones sold a piece. Let’s celebrate.
Well done, cheers:)
dv said:
sarahs mum said:
dv said:Hey here’s another idea if the point of this is to keep builders busy…
70000 school students in NSW are still in temporary demountable classrooms. Maybe build some classrooms?
Not cheap…but funding for a bunch of geriatric teaching hospitals with emergency facilities. The state hospitals complain about those patients choking facilities.
I mean we’d be talking about something like 3000 classrooms: perhaps 750 blocks. Should be achievable.
But I’m happy with your idea. :-)
what, a government funding public works for public services ¿ imagine that
SCIENCE has killed the forum!!!
Right. That’s tomorrow night’s dinner prepped and marinating. Tandoori chook legs.
Mrs V is cooking tonight: Skippy Bolognese with spiral pasta.
sarahs mum said:
Just heard a rumour that Henry Jones sold a piece. Let’s celebrate.
Wheeeeee-Hooooooo!
(I’ll raise a glass once I’ve filled one.)

Bogsnorkler said:
Also ^.
Bogsnorkler said:
Fair call.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/05/the-economy-is-going-to-hell-so-have-a-go-do-a-reno
1st Dog
HFNDC. Cheers to all and sundry
I have a bike rack that sits on a wall. The wall is brick. I had used one of those you beaut brick wall screws to hold it up but it has, over time, pulled out. Now I have a hole and a bike rack that I cant hang a bike on.
How do I fix this problem so I can hang the bike back up. Using a bigger screw won’t work because the rack has a limit to the size of bolt I can use.
Bogsnorkler said:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/05/the-economy-is-going-to-hell-so-have-a-go-do-a-reno1st Dog
it was the obvious interpretation the moment it was announced
what’s surprising is that it seems to fool anybody
or maybe it’s like the USSA, nobody is fooled except by an even longer standing delusion that there is equality and they too might one day become privileged
Arts said:
HFNDC. Cheers to all and sundryI have a bike rack that sits on a wall. The wall is brick. I had used one of those you beaut brick wall screws to hold it up but it has, over time, pulled out. Now I have a hole and a bike rack that I cant hang a bike on.
How do I fix this problem so I can hang the bike back up. Using a bigger screw won’t work because the rack has a limit to the size of bolt I can use.
have you considered doing a $150000 renovation
Arts said:
HFNDC. Cheers to all and sundryI have a bike rack that sits on a wall. The wall is brick. I had used one of those you beaut brick wall screws to hold it up but it has, over time, pulled out. Now I have a hole and a bike rack that I cant hang a bike on.
How do I fix this problem so I can hang the bike back up. Using a bigger screw won’t work because the rack has a limit to the size of bolt I can use.
Good question. My initial thought would be to use more fixings in the brick wall than the number specified. But that might entail making holes in the rack or adding extra support brackets of one kind or another.
party_pants said:
Arts said:
HFNDC. Cheers to all and sundryI have a bike rack that sits on a wall. The wall is brick. I had used one of those you beaut brick wall screws to hold it up but it has, over time, pulled out. Now I have a hole and a bike rack that I cant hang a bike on.
How do I fix this problem so I can hang the bike back up. Using a bigger screw won’t work because the rack has a limit to the size of bolt I can use.
Good question. My initial thought would be to use more fixings in the brick wall than the number specified. But that might entail making holes in the rack or adding extra support brackets of one kind or another.
I’m not a handyman in any way but can’t you get things that go in the hole and expand when you screw into them, thus locking the fixture in place.
Arts said:
HFNDC. Cheers to all and sundryI have a bike rack that sits on a wall. The wall is brick. I had used one of those you beaut brick wall screws to hold it up but it has, over time, pulled out. Now I have a hole and a bike rack that I cant hang a bike on.
How do I fix this problem so I can hang the bike back up. Using a bigger screw won’t work because the rack has a limit to the size of bolt I can use.
Drill a bigger hole in the rack. or. Use dynabolt fastener. or. use chemset chemical “glue” stuff.
![]()
https://ramset.com.au/Document/Section/114/Chemical-Anchoring
furious said:
party_pants said:
Arts said:
HFNDC. Cheers to all and sundryI have a bike rack that sits on a wall. The wall is brick. I had used one of those you beaut brick wall screws to hold it up but it has, over time, pulled out. Now I have a hole and a bike rack that I cant hang a bike on.
How do I fix this problem so I can hang the bike back up. Using a bigger screw won’t work because the rack has a limit to the size of bolt I can use.
Good question. My initial thought would be to use more fixings in the brick wall than the number specified. But that might entail making holes in the rack or adding extra support brackets of one kind or another.
I’m not a handyman in any way but can’t you get things that go in the hole and expand when you screw into them, thus locking the fixture in place.
They are more for concrete, not so good for brick as too much pressure can just crack the brick. Best use some type of plastic plug in brick that opens up and squeezes the inside of the hole when the screw is inserted.
Bogsnorkler said:
Arts said:
HFNDC. Cheers to all and sundryI have a bike rack that sits on a wall. The wall is brick. I had used one of those you beaut brick wall screws to hold it up but it has, over time, pulled out. Now I have a hole and a bike rack that I cant hang a bike on.
How do I fix this problem so I can hang the bike back up. Using a bigger screw won’t work because the rack has a limit to the size of bolt I can use.
Drill a bigger hole in the rack. or. Use dynabolt fastener. or. use chemset chemical “glue” stuff.
https://ramset.com.au/Document/Section/114/Chemical-Anchoring
+1. Chemset glue is used in construction for holding down bolts (bolts that hold buildings down.)
SCIENCE said:
Arts said:
HFNDC. Cheers to all and sundryI have a bike rack that sits on a wall. The wall is brick. I had used one of those you beaut brick wall screws to hold it up but it has, over time, pulled out. Now I have a hole and a bike rack that I cant hang a bike on.
How do I fix this problem so I can hang the bike back up. Using a bigger screw won’t work because the rack has a limit to the size of bolt I can use.
have you considered doing a $150000 renovation
Yes
party_pants said:
Arts said:
HFNDC. Cheers to all and sundryI have a bike rack that sits on a wall. The wall is brick. I had used one of those you beaut brick wall screws to hold it up but it has, over time, pulled out. Now I have a hole and a bike rack that I cant hang a bike on.
How do I fix this problem so I can hang the bike back up. Using a bigger screw won’t work because the rack has a limit to the size of bolt I can use.
Good question. My initial thought would be to use more fixings in the brick wall than the number specified. But that might entail making holes in the rack or adding extra support brackets of one kind or another.
Yes. Let’s call that plan X
furious said:
party_pants said:
Arts said:
HFNDC. Cheers to all and sundryI have a bike rack that sits on a wall. The wall is brick. I had used one of those you beaut brick wall screws to hold it up but it has, over time, pulled out. Now I have a hole and a bike rack that I cant hang a bike on.
How do I fix this problem so I can hang the bike back up. Using a bigger screw won’t work because the rack has a limit to the size of bolt I can use.
Good question. My initial thought would be to use more fixings in the brick wall than the number specified. But that might entail making holes in the rack or adding extra support brackets of one kind or another.
I’m not a handyman in any way but can’t you get things that go in the hole and expand when you screw into them, thus locking the fixture in place.
I don’t know
Bogsnorkler said:
Arts said:
HFNDC. Cheers to all and sundryI have a bike rack that sits on a wall. The wall is brick. I had used one of those you beaut brick wall screws to hold it up but it has, over time, pulled out. Now I have a hole and a bike rack that I cant hang a bike on.
How do I fix this problem so I can hang the bike back up. Using a bigger screw won’t work because the rack has a limit to the size of bolt I can use.
Drill a bigger hole in the rack. or. Use dynabolt fastener. or. use chemset chemical “glue” stuff.
https://ramset.com.au/Document/Section/114/Chemical-Anchoring
I have a Dino boot but it doesn’t fit in the hole in the rack or the wall. I suppose that can be plan five
or. drill right through the brick and use

btm said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Arts said:
HFNDC. Cheers to all and sundryI have a bike rack that sits on a wall. The wall is brick. I had used one of those you beaut brick wall screws to hold it up but it has, over time, pulled out. Now I have a hole and a bike rack that I cant hang a bike on.
How do I fix this problem so I can hang the bike back up. Using a bigger screw won’t work because the rack has a limit to the size of bolt I can use.
Drill a bigger hole in the rack. or. Use dynabolt fastener. or. use chemset chemical “glue” stuff.
https://ramset.com.au/Document/Section/114/Chemical-Anchoring
+1. Chemset glue is used in construction for holding down bolts (bolts that hold buildings down.)
Chem set. Got it. Trip to Bunnings on the weekend.
Thanks both
Bogsnorkler said:
or. drill right through the brick and use
That will be plan no.
Arts said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Arts said:
HFNDC. Cheers to all and sundryI have a bike rack that sits on a wall. The wall is brick. I had used one of those you beaut brick wall screws to hold it up but it has, over time, pulled out. Now I have a hole and a bike rack that I cant hang a bike on.
How do I fix this problem so I can hang the bike back up. Using a bigger screw won’t work because the rack has a limit to the size of bolt I can use.
Drill a bigger hole in the rack. or. Use dynabolt fastener. or. use chemset chemical “glue” stuff.
https://ramset.com.au/Document/Section/114/Chemical-Anchoring
I have a Dino boot but it doesn’t fit in the hole in the rack or the wall. I suppose that can be plan five
Dyna bolt. No boots for dinos.
Arts said:
btm said:
Bogsnorkler said:Drill a bigger hole in the rack. or. Use dynabolt fastener. or. use chemset chemical “glue” stuff.
https://ramset.com.au/Document/Section/114/Chemical-Anchoring
+1. Chemset glue is used in construction for holding down bolts (bolts that hold buildings down.)
Chem set. Got it. Trip to Bunnings on the weekend.
Thanks both
if you use that drill right through the brick so the chemset oozes a bit into the cavity. will make it stronger.
Bogsnorkler said:
Arts said:
btm said:+1. Chemset glue is used in construction for holding down bolts (bolts that hold buildings down.)
Chem set. Got it. Trip to Bunnings on the weekend.
Thanks both
if you use that drill right through the brick so the chemset oozes a bit into the cavity. will make it stronger.
annnnd, if you have a bike rack hanging on a brick wall then if the hole doesn’t go all the way through then you ain’t holding all that weight on a very secure anchor in the first place.
Bogsnorkler said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Arts said:Chem set. Got it. Trip to Bunnings on the weekend.
Thanks both
if you use that drill right through the brick so the chemset oozes a bit into the cavity. will make it stronger.
annnnd, if you have a bike rack hanging on a brick wall then if the hole doesn’t go all the way through then you ain’t holding all that weight on a very secure anchor in the first place.
It’s a faulty light bike… I think the action of putting it up and on (not in a careful placement way) is what has caused this issue in the first place.
btm said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Arts said:
HFNDC. Cheers to all and sundryI have a bike rack that sits on a wall. The wall is brick. I had used one of those you beaut brick wall screws to hold it up but it has, over time, pulled out. Now I have a hole and a bike rack that I cant hang a bike on.
How do I fix this problem so I can hang the bike back up. Using a bigger screw won’t work because the rack has a limit to the size of bolt I can use.
Drill a bigger hole in the rack. or. Use dynabolt fastener. or. use chemset chemical “glue” stuff.
https://ramset.com.au/Document/Section/114/Chemical-Anchoring
+1. Chemset glue is used in construction for holding down bolts (bolts that hold buildings down.)
Yep use chemset, dynabolts may crack your wall.
Peak Warming Man said:
btm said:
Bogsnorkler said:Drill a bigger hole in the rack. or. Use dynabolt fastener. or. use chemset chemical “glue” stuff.
https://ramset.com.au/Document/Section/114/Chemical-Anchoring
+1. Chemset glue is used in construction for holding down bolts (bolts that hold buildings down.)
Yep use chemset, dynabolts may crack your wall.
I don’t know, in my day we kept the bikes in the shed. None of this fancy wall hanging…
Full moon and -3 tonight. Then another night of -3 then two nights of -2.
party_pants said:
They are more for concrete, not so good for brick as too much pressure can just crack the brick. Best use some type of plastic plug in brick that opens up and squeezes the inside of the hole when the screw is inserted.
Dynabolts are fine. If too much pressure is a concern then just don’t use too much pressure.
When it feels tight enough and firm enough, then it’s quite likely to be tight enough and firm enough.
Stop there.
furious said:
I don’t know, in my day we
keptjust accepted that we’d trip over the bikes in the shed. None of this fancy wall hanging…
Arts said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Bogsnorkler said:if you use that drill right through the brick so the chemset oozes a bit into the cavity. will make it stronger.
annnnd, if you have a bike rack hanging on a brick wall then if the hole doesn’t go all the way through then you ain’t holding all that weight on a very secure anchor in the first place.
It’s a faulty light bike… I think the action of putting it up and on (not in a careful placement way) is what has caused this issue in the first place.
https://www.bunnings.com.au/ramset-chemset-chemical-anchor-nozzles-5-pack_p2266979
Bubblecar said:
Full moon and -3 tonight. Then another night of -3 then two nights of -2.
Just arrived at the Redoubt,
It’ll be minus something tonight.
Had the heater on in the car, still got shorts on, that aint going to last long.
furious said:
Peak Warming Man said:
btm said:+1. Chemset glue is used in construction for holding down bolts (bolts that hold buildings down.)
Yep use chemset, dynabolts may crack your wall.
I don’t know, in my day we kept the bikes in the shed. None of this fancy wall hanging…
I use one of these for the cross bike that I don’t use. Keeps it out of the way.
https://www.bunnings.com.au/zenith-24cm-zinc-plated-2-square-shed-hook_p3950878
Arts said:
It’s a faulty light bike… I think the action of putting it up and on (not in a careful placement way) is what has caused this issue in the first place.
There’s your problem. It’s a faulty light bike.
Probably not light at all. I bet it weighs tons and tons.
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:They are more for concrete, not so good for brick as too much pressure can just crack the brick. Best use some type of plastic plug in brick that opens up and squeezes the inside of the hole when the screw is inserted.
Dynabolts are fine. If too much pressure is a concern then just don’t use too much pressure.
When it feels tight enough and firm enough, then it’s quite likely to be tight enough and firm enough.
Stop there.
You cant stop, you just got to give it a little bit more.
Bogsnorkler said:
Arts said:
Bogsnorkler said:annnnd, if you have a bike rack hanging on a brick wall then if the hole doesn’t go all the way through then you ain’t holding all that weight on a very secure anchor in the first place.
It’s a faulty light bike… I think the action of putting it up and on (not in a careful placement way) is what has caused this issue in the first place.
https://www.bunnings.com.au/ramset-chemset-chemical-anchor-nozzles-5-pack_p2266979
Ta. They are the nozzles but the other stuff was at the bottom.
ABC News:
‘CommBank fined $5m for AgriAdvantage Plus Package that wrongly took $8m from Australian farmers
So, that’s how it works.
Do the wrong thing. Get caught doing the wrong thing. Get punished for doing the wrong thing. Come out $3 million in front.
captain_spalding said:
Arts said:It’s a faulty light bike… I think the action of putting it up and on (not in a careful placement way) is what has caused this issue in the first place.
There’s your problem. It’s a faulty light bike.
Probably not light at all. I bet it weighs tons and tons.
Stupid autocorrect.
The bike I use parks in a double one of something like this that I probably bought from Innovations mail order. I reckon I bought a second one that is still in the box. I’ll get around to putting it outside at some point.
I’m going to do an inventory of my veggie seed box. The new Diggers seed catalogue arrived today. I should do my annual order.
ABC News:
‘Cult leader James Salerno wins retrial over alleged sexual abuse of teenage member’

Anyone who wears that suit, that shirt, and that tie at the same time is definitely a deviate of some kind.
buffy said:
I’m going to do an inventory of my veggie seed box. The new Diggers seed catalogue arrived today. I should do my annual order.
But what about the perennials?
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘Cult leader James Salerno wins retrial over alleged sexual abuse of teenage member’
Anyone who wears that suit, that shirt, and that tie at the same time is definitely a deviate of some kind.
I mean, i wouldn’t mind if he tried.
I could have given him the name of tailor who could have shortened the jacket to his length, shortened the sleeves so it doesn’t look like he’s wearing his big brother’s suit, and got rid of those very-yesterday pocket flaps.
At the very least, he would have been shown how to take the coat hanger out before donning the jacket.
captain_spalding said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘Cult leader James Salerno wins retrial over alleged sexual abuse of teenage member’
Anyone who wears that suit, that shirt, and that tie at the same time is definitely a deviate of some kind.
I mean, i wouldn’t mind if he tried.
I could have given him the name of tailor who could have shortened the jacket to his length, shortened the sleeves so it doesn’t look like he’s wearing his big brother’s suit, and got rid of those very-yesterday pocket flaps.
At the very least, he would have been shown how to take the coat hanger out before donning the jacket.
very harsh.
Do you judge books by their cover too?
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘Cult leader James Salerno wins retrial over alleged sexual abuse of teenage member’
Anyone who wears that suit, that shirt, and that tie at the same time is definitely a deviate of some kind.
I mean, i wouldn’t mind if he tried.
I could have given him the name of tailor who could have shortened the jacket to his length, shortened the sleeves so it doesn’t look like he’s wearing his big brother’s suit, and got rid of those very-yesterday pocket flaps.
At the very least, he would have been shown how to take the coat hanger out before donning the jacket.
very harsh.
Do you judge books by their cover too?
https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/healthreport/what-influences-whether-we-trust-someone/12301342
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘Cult leader James Salerno wins retrial over alleged sexual abuse of teenage member’
Anyone who wears that suit, that shirt, and that tie at the same time is definitely a deviate of some kind.
I mean, i wouldn’t mind if he tried.
I could have given him the name of tailor who could have shortened the jacket to his length, shortened the sleeves so it doesn’t look like he’s wearing his big brother’s suit, and got rid of those very-yesterday pocket flaps.
At the very least, he would have been shown how to take the coat hanger out before donning the jacket.
very harsh.
Do you judge books by their cover too?
Depends. Does the book ocver refer to golf, cats or the Third Reich?
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘CommBank fined $5m for AgriAdvantage Plus Package that wrongly took $8m from Australian farmers
So, that’s how it works.
Do the wrong thing. Get caught doing the wrong thing. Get punished for doing the wrong thing. Come out $3 million in front.
we have some sporting club grant applications you may be interested in filing for
Fire lit, stubbie opened, footie on the wireless.
sits back
Peak Warming Man said:
Fire lit, stubbie opened, footie on the wireless.
sits back
So how about that Corby girl then ,hey.
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Fire lit, stubbie opened, footie on the wireless.
sits back
So how about that Corby girl then ,hey.
Does she know how to hang a bike on the wall?
Tonight’s motion picture is a re-watch of the 1958 sci-fi The Brain Eaters, which includes a rare early appearance by Leonard Nimoy, wrongly billed as Leonard Nemoy.
Southern Cross is pointing directly south so if I suddenly get lost I’ll know where south is without having to do the four and a half / drop to horizon thing with my fingers.
Southern Cross is pointing directly south so if I suddenly get lost I’ll know where south is without having to do the four and a half / drop to horizon thing with my fingers.
Peak Warming Man said:
Southern Cross is pointing directly south so if I suddenly get lost I’ll know where south is without having to do the four and a half / drop to horizon thing with my fingers.
Navigation skills do relate to what we know.
Peak Warming Man said:
Fire lit, stubbie opened, footie on the wireless.
sits back
I hope you put your trackie dacks on over your shorts.
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Fire lit, stubbie opened, footie on the wireless.
sits back
I hope you put your trackie dacks on over your shorts.
Not yet the fire is doing it’s thing.
honeycomb whirlz, oh yum
kettle’s boiling, stay seated
Blerghh. I thought I would be daring tonight and buy a bottle of gin, a bottle of lightly sparkling mineral water, some tonic water, and a couple of limes. I have never tried gin before.
It smelled like those mini perfume bottles my mum used to keep in the storage cupboard in the bathroom, in the ’70’s. You know, the one with the sliding mirror doors.
The lightly sparkling water simply increased the volume of perfume to be consumed. The addition of a lime slice seemed to make it even more bitter, so that first attempt was abandoned. A second attempt with the tonic water, tasted much the same as the first. Thankfully, Mr Speedy thought it was an OK drink and finished both those glasses himself. I have resorted to my usual FN glass (or two) of red wine.
transition said:
honeycomb whirlz, oh yumkettle’s boiling, stay seated
roughbarked said:
transition said:
honeycomb whirlz, oh yumkettle’s boiling, stay seated
while
you
are
at
it
…
I might prevail upon your generosity?
lands drink
there ya go
perfect, I make the best coffee in the entire universe
transition said:
roughbarked said:
transition said:
honeycomb whirlz, oh yumkettle’s boiling, stay seated
while
you
are
at
it
…
I might prevail upon your generosity?
lands drink
there ya go
perfect, I make the best coffee in the entire universe
No question. That hit the spot. :)
But it is a bit chilly. I mght have to put a shirt on.
Speedy said:
Blerghh. I thought I would be daring tonight and buy a bottle of gin, a bottle of lightly sparkling mineral water, some tonic water, and a couple of limes. I have never tried gin before.It smelled like those mini perfume bottles my mum used to keep in the storage cupboard in the bathroom, in the ’70’s. You know, the one with the sliding mirror doors.
The lightly sparkling water simply increased the volume of perfume to be consumed. The addition of a lime slice seemed to make it even more bitter, so that first attempt was abandoned. A second attempt with the tonic water, tasted much the same as the first. Thankfully, Mr Speedy thought it was an OK drink and finished both those glasses himself. I have resorted to my usual FN glass (or two) of red wine.
Gin is the ruin of women, apparently,
I’ve got a big log that will be the last on tonight but even if I bank the fire it wont last till morning when it will be very cold.
It’s 3 degrees already.
This Alice in Wonderland thingy on the tele. It’s a bloody horror movie. It woulda scared the bejeezus outa me when I was a kid.
Peak Warming Man said:
Speedy said:
Blerghh. I thought I would be daring tonight and buy a bottle of gin, a bottle of lightly sparkling mineral water, some tonic water, and a couple of limes. I have never tried gin before.It smelled like those mini perfume bottles my mum used to keep in the storage cupboard in the bathroom, in the ’70’s. You know, the one with the sliding mirror doors.
The lightly sparkling water simply increased the volume of perfume to be consumed. The addition of a lime slice seemed to make it even more bitter, so that first attempt was abandoned. A second attempt with the tonic water, tasted much the same as the first. Thankfully, Mr Speedy thought it was an OK drink and finished both those glasses himself. I have resorted to my usual FN glass (or two) of red wine.
Gin is the ruin of women, apparently,
I’ve got a big log that will be the last on tonight but even if I bank the fire it wont last till morning when it will be very cold.
It’s 3 degrees already.
The Queen Mother apparently ordered three cases of gin for an expected stay in hospital of three days when she was nigh on her five score of days.
Speedy said:
Blerghh. I thought I would be daring tonight and buy a bottle of gin, a bottle of lightly sparkling mineral water, some tonic water, and a couple of limes. I have never tried gin before.It smelled like those mini perfume bottles my mum used to keep in the storage cupboard in the bathroom, in the ’70’s. You know, the one with the sliding mirror doors.
The lightly sparkling water simply increased the volume of perfume to be consumed. The addition of a lime slice seemed to make it even more bitter, so that first attempt was abandoned. A second attempt with the tonic water, tasted much the same as the first. Thankfully, Mr Speedy thought it was an OK drink and finished both those glasses himself. I have resorted to my usual FN glass (or two) of red wine.
Perhaps you could try a pink gin, Ms Speedy. It’s Ms Mum’s favourite tipple.
You got the fire going Woodie?
Peak Warming Man said:
You got the fire going Woodie?
Why would he need one? No fires going here.
Woodie said:
Speedy said:
Blerghh. I thought I would be daring tonight and buy a bottle of gin, a bottle of lightly sparkling mineral water, some tonic water, and a couple of limes. I have never tried gin before.It smelled like those mini perfume bottles my mum used to keep in the storage cupboard in the bathroom, in the ’70’s. You know, the one with the sliding mirror doors.
The lightly sparkling water simply increased the volume of perfume to be consumed. The addition of a lime slice seemed to make it even more bitter, so that first attempt was abandoned. A second attempt with the tonic water, tasted much the same as the first. Thankfully, Mr Speedy thought it was an OK drink and finished both those glasses himself. I have resorted to my usual FN glass (or two) of red wine.
Perhaps you could try a pink gin, Ms Speedy. It’s Ms Mum’s favourite tipple.
Could it be much better? I mean, I really do like the flavour of lime, so if it wasn’t enough to even begin to improve the flavour, I think I’ll just quit while I’m ahead.
Visitors that came and sat around the fire and chatted was a good thing. It’s been years.
I looked at their tree survey and the suggested bit of ground for their dwelling. There are a lot of contour lines through the house site.
sarahs mum said:
Visitors that came and sat around the fire and chatted was a good thing. It’s been years.I looked at their tree survey and the suggested bit of ground for their dwelling. There are a lot of contour lines through the house site.
:) Sounds lovely.
Are they neighbours? Cutting and filling?
Speedy said:
sarahs mum said:
Visitors that came and sat around the fire and chatted was a good thing. It’s been years.I looked at their tree survey and the suggested bit of ground for their dwelling. There are a lot of contour lines through the house site.
:) Sounds lovely.
Are they neighbours? Cutting and filling?
They are about half way between here and snug,,a couple of mile away as the road winds. They have thrown up a humpy on the block. Getting a house on it is tricky but not impossible.
They got it for 20k.
sarahs mum said:
Visitors that came and sat around the fire and chatted was a good thing. It’s been years.I looked at their tree survey and the suggested bit of ground for their dwelling. There are a lot of contour lines through the house site.
Good to hear, sm. Hopefully it’s a long and fruitful friendship. Friend are good, apparently.
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
Visitors that came and sat around the fire and chatted was a good thing. It’s been years.I looked at their tree survey and the suggested bit of ground for their dwelling. There are a lot of contour lines through the house site.
Good to hear, sm. Hopefully it’s a long and fruitful friendship. Friend are good, apparently.
pfft.
Here’s the block.
https://www.squiiz.com.au/real-estate/property/sold/3768586-lot-2-33-sproules-road-snug-tas-7054/
sarahs mum said:
Speedy said:
sarahs mum said:
Visitors that came and sat around the fire and chatted was a good thing. It’s been years.I looked at their tree survey and the suggested bit of ground for their dwelling. There are a lot of contour lines through the house site.
:) Sounds lovely.
Are they neighbours? Cutting and filling?
They are about half way between here and snug,,a couple of mile away as the road winds. They have thrown up a humpy on the block. Getting a house on it is tricky but not impossible.
They got it for 20k.
I ask because some people a couple of blocks away are putting in a pool. There has been a non-stop jack-hammering-type noise for a month now, and although the noise is muffled at that distance, I have almost had enough. I think the owners may be regretting their decision as I don’t think they had realised that there is so much sandstone in this area. My understanding is that a quotation for earthworks of this kind is dependent on what is found underneath. It could be an unexpectedly expensive exercise.
Arts said:
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
Visitors that came and sat around the fire and chatted was a good thing. It’s been years.I looked at their tree survey and the suggested bit of ground for their dwelling. There are a lot of contour lines through the house site.
Good to hear, sm. Hopefully it’s a long and fruitful friendship. Friend are good, apparently.
pfft.
I was going to put in something about your take on it but I didn’t think you were around to have a dig at, so I couldn’t be arsed. If only I could go back in time five minutes, eh.
well, apparently I’m not cool enough to be a 14 yr old..
which is great, because 14 is a pretty shit age… but apparently we aren’t supposed to say that in front of 14 yr olds…
oops.
sibeen said:
Arts said:
sibeen said:Good to hear, sm. Hopefully it’s a long and fruitful friendship. Friend are good, apparently.
pfft.
I was going to put in something about your take on it but I didn’t think you were around to have a dig at, so I couldn’t be arsed. If only I could go back in time five minutes, eh.
I had to come in here to hide from the 14 yr old.
Arts said:
sibeen said:
Arts said:pfft.
I was going to put in something about your take on it but I didn’t think you were around to have a dig at, so I couldn’t be arsed. If only I could go back in time five minutes, eh.
I had to come in here to hide from the 14 yr old.
OK, you’re excused. You have a pass for the night. Can I suggest alcohol?
Speedy said:
sarahs mum said:
Speedy said::) Sounds lovely.
Are they neighbours? Cutting and filling?
They are about half way between here and snug,,a couple of mile away as the road winds. They have thrown up a humpy on the block. Getting a house on it is tricky but not impossible.
They got it for 20k.I ask because some people a couple of blocks away are putting in a pool. There has been a non-stop jack-hammering-type noise for a month now, and although the noise is muffled at that distance, I have almost had enough. I think the owners may be regretting their decision as I don’t think they had realised that there is so much sandstone in this area. My understanding is that a quotation for earthworks of this kind is dependent on what is found underneath. It could be an unexpectedly expensive exercise.
Their considerations are relaxation from the road and relaxation from the river. And then in the strip of land that is left clearing trees at a fee of $500 each to council…enough to make the fire people happy..and then then to work out how to pin the house on the hill.
sibeen said:
Arts said:
sibeen said:I was going to put in something about your take on it but I didn’t think you were around to have a dig at, so I couldn’t be arsed. If only I could go back in time five minutes, eh.
I had to come in here to hide from the 14 yr old.
OK, you’re excused. You have a pass for the night. Can I suggest alcohol?
it’s great that being a parent of a teenager unites even the most hardened of enemies…
Peak Warming Man said:
You got the fire going Woodie?
Cranked up and roaring, Mr Man. Cranked up and roaring.
…… and snug tootties in my new $20 Best & Less slip slips.
Arts said:
well, apparently I’m not cool enough to be a 14 yr old..which is great, because 14 is a pretty shit age… but apparently we aren’t supposed to say that in front of 14 yr olds…
oops.
Sounds like you need a basement to hide in. Although our house is older and not open-plan as we occasionally wish it was, it can be compartal, compartman, compartmet, compartmentalised. It’s a sanity-saver.
Speedy said:
Woodie said:
Speedy said:
Blerghh. I thought I would be daring tonight and buy a bottle of gin, a bottle of lightly sparkling mineral water, some tonic water, and a couple of limes. I have never tried gin before.It smelled like those mini perfume bottles my mum used to keep in the storage cupboard in the bathroom, in the ’70’s. You know, the one with the sliding mirror doors.
The lightly sparkling water simply increased the volume of perfume to be consumed. The addition of a lime slice seemed to make it even more bitter, so that first attempt was abandoned. A second attempt with the tonic water, tasted much the same as the first. Thankfully, Mr Speedy thought it was an OK drink and finished both those glasses himself. I have resorted to my usual FN glass (or two) of red wine.
Perhaps you could try a pink gin, Ms Speedy. It’s Ms Mum’s favourite tipple.
Could it be much better? I mean, I really do like the flavour of lime, so if it wasn’t enough to even begin to improve the flavour, I think I’ll just quit while I’m ahead.
Sounds like you’re just not a gin lady.
Speedy said:
Arts said:
well, apparently I’m not cool enough to be a 14 yr old..which is great, because 14 is a pretty shit age… but apparently we aren’t supposed to say that in front of 14 yr olds…
oops.
Sounds like you need a basement to hide in. Although our house is older and not open-plan as we occasionally wish it was, it can be
compartal,compartman,compartmet, compartmentalised. It’s a sanity-saver.
pretty much the main reason why I made sure I had an office of my own… then I had to do a degree to justify it.. but totally worth it now :)
sarahs mum said:
Visitors that came and sat around the fire and chatted was a good thing. It’s been years.I looked at their tree survey and the suggested bit of ground for their dwelling. There are a lot of contour lines through the house site.
Splendid :)
I’d visit too but you’re a long way away for a non-driver.
Arts said:
Speedy said:
Arts said:
well, apparently I’m not cool enough to be a 14 yr old..which is great, because 14 is a pretty shit age… but apparently we aren’t supposed to say that in front of 14 yr olds…
oops.
Sounds like you need a basement to hide in. Although our house is older and not open-plan as we occasionally wish it was, it can be
compartal,compartman,compartmet, compartmentalised. It’s a sanity-saver.
pretty much the main reason why I made sure I had an office of my own… then I had to do a degree to justify it.. but totally worth it now :)
:) lol.
Preparing a little quiche supper. Diced hen, leek, dill, garlic, parsley, 3 x eggs and a splash of milk, salt, pepper, nutmeg.
Hello – could it be that Pete Evans suffers from a mental illness?
monkey skipper said:
Hello – could it be that Pete Evans suffers from a mental illness?
yes. it’s called delusion.
monkey skipper said:
Hello – could it be that Pete Evans suffers from a mental illness?
b12 deficiency?
Bubblecar said:
Preparing a little quiche supper. Diced hen, leek, dill, garlic, parsley, 3 x eggs and a splash of milk, salt, pepper, nutmeg.
I had to think of what I had for dinner. I tossed some spinach into a saucepan wilted on the heat and put in some curried rice , little bit of milk , water , S&P and a small amount of grated cheese. Not too bad at all.
sarahs mum said:
monkey skipper said:
Hello – could it be that Pete Evans suffers from a mental illness?
b12 deficiency?
Not a silly question actually!
Woodie said:
This Alice in Wonderland thingy on the tele. It’s a bloody horror movie. It woulda scared the bejeezus outa me when I was a kid.
…… and I thought they are meant to have the handsome prince in these things.You know, that you’d get to kiss. Not some scar-faced mean randy old bastard of a prince like this one is.
Bubblecar said:
Preparing a little quiche supper. Diced hen, leek, dill, garlic, parsley, 3 x eggs and a splash of milk, salt, pepper, nutmeg.
We had quiche night before last. A simple one with fried bacon and onion, and fresh parsley from out the back. Little Speedy requested it, but Seedy Jnr won’t eat it. He decided to make himself bacon and eggs for dinner, because it’s not called quiche.
Arts said:
monkey skipper said:
Hello – could it be that Pete Evans suffers from a mental illness?
yes. it’s called delusion.
Yes but something a little bit extra than that too…
lady wants me to do the bookwork (emails) faster, says she’s going to give me adrenaline
I said oh no, dear God, i’d have a heart attack
then she went on to say straight in the heart, a big injection
monkey skipper said:
Hello – could it be that Pete Evans suffers from a mental illness?
There was some talk of this a couple of weeks ago. I’ll see if I can find it…
Speedy said:
Bubblecar said:
Preparing a little quiche supper. Diced hen, leek, dill, garlic, parsley, 3 x eggs and a splash of milk, salt, pepper, nutmeg.
We had quiche night before last. A simple one with fried bacon and onion, and fresh parsley from out the back. Little Speedy requested it, but Seedy Jnr won’t eat it. He decided to make himself bacon and eggs for dinner, because it’s not called quiche.
Hi Speedy , how is your mum doing?
sarahs mum said:
monkey skipper said:
Hello – could it be that Pete Evans suffers from a mental illness?
b12 deficiency?
Sorry. He is about being a carnivore?
Speedy said:
monkey skipper said:
Hello – could it be that Pete Evans suffers from a mental illness?
There was some talk of this a couple of weeks ago. I’ll see if I can find it…
He could be hiding a drug issue as well. The recent photos of him seems like he is actually unwell.
Speedy said:
Bubblecar said:
Preparing a little quiche supper. Diced hen, leek, dill, garlic, parsley, 3 x eggs and a splash of milk, salt, pepper, nutmeg.
We had quiche night before last. A simple one with fried bacon and onion, and fresh parsley from out the back. Little Speedy requested it, but Seedy Jnr won’t eat it. He decided to make himself bacon and eggs for dinner, because it’s not called quiche.
Someone musta told him that real men don’t eat quiche.
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
monkey skipper said:
Hello – could it be that Pete Evans suffers from a mental illness?
b12 deficiency?
Sorry. He is about being a carnivore?
I mean people might dismiss or be unaware of the importance of the bgroup vitamins and in particular b12
monkey skipper said:
Speedy said:
Bubblecar said:
Preparing a little quiche supper. Diced hen, leek, dill, garlic, parsley, 3 x eggs and a splash of milk, salt, pepper, nutmeg.
We had quiche night before last. A simple one with fried bacon and onion, and fresh parsley from out the back. Little Speedy requested it, but Seedy Jnr won’t eat it. He decided to make himself bacon and eggs for dinner, because it’s not called quiche.
Hi Speedy , how is your mum doing?
Hi ms. I spoke with her today and she actually sounded better than she has in a long time. She said she felt good too :) The reason I spoke with her was to explain to her that I think it may be a good idea if I visit her doctor with her next time. I had thought that she would not like this idea, but she seemed quite relieved that I had offered. She can never remember what happens as I think she has some anxiety issues, and her husband’s English isn’t too good, so trying to figure out what is happening has been difficult.
sarahs mum said:
monkey skipper said:
Hello – could it be that Pete Evans suffers from a mental illness?
b12 deficiency?
B1 – Korsakoff Wernicke Syndrome would explain most of it.
Speedy said:
monkey skipper said:
Speedy said:We had quiche night before last. A simple one with fried bacon and onion, and fresh parsley from out the back. Little Speedy requested it, but Seedy Jnr won’t eat it. He decided to make himself bacon and eggs for dinner, because it’s not called quiche.
Hi Speedy , how is your mum doing?
Hi ms. I spoke with her today and she actually sounded better than she has in a long time. She said she felt good too :) The reason I spoke with her was to explain to her that I think it may be a good idea if I visit her doctor with her next time. I had thought that she would not like this idea, but she seemed quite relieved that I had offered. She can never remember what happens as I think she has some anxiety issues, and her husband’s English isn’t too good, so trying to figure out what is happening has been difficult.
That’s sounds good. I save up my illnesses when I visit the doctor but then leave and think hmm..probably should have remembered to ask about that while I was there. It happens. :-) So having you there might help to ask about certain things she did not think of.
monkey skipper said:
Hello – could it be that Pete Evans suffers from a mental illness?
https://www.perthnow.com.au/entertainment/confidential/chef-pete-evans-says-hes-not-unwell-after-doctor-harry-nespolon-suggests-he-takes-time-off-after-bizarre-covid-19-conspiracy-posts-ng-b881546909z
“I have the most robust health (physical, emotional and spiritual) ever at the age of almost 47 years, and currently do not take any medications/pharmaceuticals,” Evans wrote.
“I send love and light to all the wonderful doctors and health workers out there, that are helping people achieve long term sustainable health.”
“I have some wonderful friends that are great integrative/functional medical doctors, so if I ever need any ‘help’, I know who to go and see.”
On Tuesday, Dr Harry Nespolon spoke to Ben Fordham’s 2GB radio program and said that Evans should seek help, referring to his bizarre social media posts suggesting COVID-19 was a conspiracy theory.
“I’d really be a little bit keen to make sure that Pete is actually with his family or with someone else,” Dr Nespolon said.
“If he really is in trouble, dare I say, he should make an appointment with his GP and I’m really quite serious about that.”
Dr Nespolon expressed his concern for this mental health after being sacked from his spot on Channel 7’s My Kitchen Rules after 10 years.
Oh. I don’t know If I mentioned this but I am expecting another little grandchild to arrive into the world at the end of the year. That might make Christmas a little bit exciting. :-)
monkey skipper said:
Oh. I don’t know If I mentioned this but I am expecting another little grandchild to arrive into the world at the end of the year. That might make Christmas a little bit exciting. :-)
ooo. :)
monkey skipper said:
Oh. I don’t know If I mentioned this but I am expecting another little grandchild to arrive into the world at the end of the year. That might make Christmas a little bit exciting. :-)
:)
Speedy said:
monkey skipper said:
Speedy said:We had quiche night before last. A simple one with fried bacon and onion, and fresh parsley from out the back. Little Speedy requested it, but Seedy Jnr won’t eat it. He decided to make himself bacon and eggs for dinner, because it’s not called quiche.
Hi Speedy , how is your mum doing?
Hi ms. I spoke with her today and she actually sounded better than she has in a long time. She said she felt good too :) The reason I spoke with her was to explain to her that I think it may be a good idea if I visit her doctor with her next time. I had thought that she would not like this idea, but she seemed quite relieved that I had offered. She can never remember what happens as I think she has some anxiety issues, and her husband’s English isn’t too good, so trying to figure out what is happening has been difficult.
Good idea.
I still haven’t had a flu shot this year. And I ought to have my annual multi-function blood test.
monkey skipper said:
Oh. I don’t know If I mentioned this but I am expecting another little grandchild to arrive into the world at the end of the year. That might make Christmas a little bit exciting. :-)
Jaysus, do your children know what’s causing this?

Arts said:
It’s certainly a challenge :/
sarahs mum said:
monkey skipper said:
Oh. I don’t know If I mentioned this but I am expecting another little grandchild to arrive into the world at the end of the year. That might make Christmas a little bit exciting. :-)
ooo. :)
And neither of them wanted to marry the father of their children. I did suggest to them as children growing I hope if your get married that you do because it is the right time , right person and the right reasons. I wouldn’t expect you to get married just because you are having a child if you don’t think the relationship is stable enough to go to that step. My guess is their paternal grandmother probably hoped they would get married.
sibeen said:
monkey skipper said:
Oh. I don’t know If I mentioned this but I am expecting another little grandchild to arrive into the world at the end of the year. That might make Christmas a little bit exciting. :-)
Jaysus, do your children know what’s causing this?
Kissing frogs?
Arts said:
lol :)
it’s true enough though.
Hey Dudes..
I don’t normally do stuff that is normal.. but I did do the flu shot..
Why.. because I’m in a place where I could be spat on..
It didn’t hurt :)
Arts, Arts, it’s worsererer than we thought!
It is too early to have firm data about the impact of COVID-19 on housing arrangements, but according to a survey compiled by online consumer comparison website Finder, an estimated 26 per cent of Australian households has a child over the age of 21 living at home, totalling more than 1.5 million families.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-05/adults-forced-to-move-back-home-with-parents-during-coronavirus/12284144
JFC!
Spider Lily said:
Hey Dudes..I don’t normally do stuff that is normal.. but I did do the flu shot..
Why.. because I’m in a place where I could be spat on..It didn’t hurt :)
But the autisms?
sibeen said:
Spider Lily said:
Hey Dudes..I don’t normally do stuff that is normal.. but I did do the flu shot..
Why.. because I’m in a place where I could be spat on..It didn’t hurt :)
But the autisms?
yeah and the mercury in the water or something like that!
sibeen said:
But the autisms?
Hmmm. F cough em
Spider Lily said:
Hey Dudes..I don’t normally do stuff that is normal.. but I did do the flu shot..
Why.. because I’m in a place where I could be spat on..It didn’t hurt :)
Hi Spider Lily :)
I hope they keep their spit to themselves.
I’m not worried about hurts, it’s just the general anxiety of lockdown conditions hasn’t encouraged me to venture to the GP.
I should make an appointment next week.
monkey skipper said:
Oh. I don’t know If I mentioned this but I am expecting another little grandchild to arrive into the world at the end of the year. That might make Christmas a little bit exciting. :-)
:) Are you a nan, or a grandma or something else?
Bubblecar said:
Spider Lily said:
Hey Dudes..I don’t normally do stuff that is normal.. but I did do the flu shot..
Why.. because I’m in a place where I could be spat on..It didn’t hurt :)
Hi Spider Lily :)
I hope they keep their spit to themselves.
I’m not worried about hurts, it’s just the general anxiety of lockdown conditions hasn’t encouraged me to venture to the GP.
I should make an appointment next week.
/Do a phone appt and get the flu jab booked from there?
Speedy said:
monkey skipper said:
Oh. I don’t know If I mentioned this but I am expecting another little grandchild to arrive into the world at the end of the year. That might make Christmas a little bit exciting. :-)
:) Are you a nan, or a grandma or something else?
Nana.
sibeen said:
Arts, Arts, it’s worsererer than we thought!It is too early to have firm data about the impact of COVID-19 on housing arrangements, but according to a survey compiled by online consumer comparison website Finder, an estimated 26 per cent of Australian households has a child over the age of 21 living at home, totalling more than 1.5 million families.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-05/adults-forced-to-move-back-home-with-parents-during-coronavirus/12284144
JFC!
My oldest nephew (who’s now in his 40s) is currently living with his parents. But that’s because he was here when the virus struck and when my sister had her unexpected operation etc.
He has a very flash apartment in Melbourne and probably millions in the bank.
monkey skipper said:
sarahs mum said:
monkey skipper said:
Oh. I don’t know If I mentioned this but I am expecting another little grandchild to arrive into the world at the end of the year. That might make Christmas a little bit exciting. :-)
ooo. :)
And neither of them wanted to marry the father of their children. I did suggest to them as children growing I hope if your get married that you do because it is the right time , right person and the right reasons. I wouldn’t expect you to get married just because you are having a child if you don’t think the relationship is stable enough to go to that step. My guess is their paternal grandmother probably hoped they would get married.
I wish someone had told me to never change my name.
monkey skipper said:
Bubblecar said:
Spider Lily said:
Hey Dudes..I don’t normally do stuff that is normal.. but I did do the flu shot..
Why.. because I’m in a place where I could be spat on..It didn’t hurt :)
Hi Spider Lily :)
I hope they keep their spit to themselves.
I’m not worried about hurts, it’s just the general anxiety of lockdown conditions hasn’t encouraged me to venture to the GP.
I should make an appointment next week.
/Do a phone appt and get the flu jab booked from there?
I’ll do that.
Apparently there’s been a shortage of the flu vaccine on the island because there’s only been one plane a week coming in, but that may have eased by now.
sibeen said:
Arts, Arts, it’s worsererer than we thought!It is too early to have firm data about the impact of COVID-19 on housing arrangements, but according to a survey compiled by online consumer comparison website Finder, an estimated 26 per cent of Australian households has a child over the age of 21 living at home, totalling more than 1.5 million families.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-05/adults-forced-to-move-back-home-with-parents-during-coronavirus/12284144
JFC!
shameful.
I am quite aware that children model what they observe. I generally keep my bedroom door closed because I have my laptop , work table and a low media storage unit that is at child height that I would prefer he doesn’t play with but occasionally he wanders into my room early mornings to say hello , investigate what he can or just sit there and engage in babble conversations with me. He does get glimpses of me working with my headsets on. Anyway he was too quiet yesterday and after a search and rescue mission he was discovered in my room , tapping on the laptop keys with the headsets on backwards pretending to be nanna work for the day!. Too funny.
Bubblecar said:
Hi Spider Lily :)I hope they keep their spit to themselves.
I’m not worried about hurts, it’s just the general anxiety of lockdown conditions hasn’t encouraged me to venture to the GP.
I should make an appointment next week.
Mr Car.. It is lovely to see that you are still alive and well… Yes I would agree that a visit to you GP may be good.. I have never felt that I needed a flu shot before. However I feel that times have changed.. I had one :)
monkey skipper said:
I am quite aware that children model what they observe. I generally keep my bedroom door closed because I have my laptop , work table and a low media storage unit that is at child height that I would prefer he doesn’t play with but occasionally he wanders into my room early mornings to say hello , investigate what he can or just sit there and engage in babble conversations with me. He does get glimpses of me working with my headsets on. Anyway he was too quiet yesterday and after a search and rescue mission he was discovered in my room , tapping on the laptop keys with the headsets on backwards pretending to be nanna work for the day!. Too funny.
:)
Should have taken a snap.
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:
Arts, Arts, it’s worsererer than we thought!It is too early to have firm data about the impact of COVID-19 on housing arrangements, but according to a survey compiled by online consumer comparison website Finder, an estimated 26 per cent of Australian households has a child over the age of 21 living at home, totalling more than 1.5 million families.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-05/adults-forced-to-move-back-home-with-parents-during-coronavirus/12284144
JFC!
shameful.
I agree, sm. They should have been down at the mine at 13 and only seen again at christmas.
Spider Lily said:
Bubblecar said:
Hi Spider Lily :)I hope they keep their spit to themselves.
I’m not worried about hurts, it’s just the general anxiety of lockdown conditions hasn’t encouraged me to venture to the GP.
I should make an appointment next week.
Mr Car.. It is lovely to see that you are still alive and well… Yes I would agree that a visit to you GP may be good.. I have never felt that I needed a flu shot before. However I feel that times have changed.. I had one :)
I think you should very year your dad lives. At some stage you might be thankful.
Spider Lily said:
Hey Dudes..I don’t normally do stuff that is normal.. but I did do the flu shot..
Why.. because I’m in a place where I could be spat on..It didn’t hurt :)
wait for the autisms to kick in
“As long as I made sure Dad has a whisky and Mum has her cup of tea at the end of the day, we are on a pretty good ticket.”
Ticket…ticket? I’d kick this bloke straight back to New bloody York if I had my druthers!
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-05/adults-forced-to-move-back-home-with-parents-during-coronavirus/12284144
Arts said:
Spider Lily said:
Hey Dudes..I don’t normally do stuff that is normal.. but I did do the flu shot..
Why.. because I’m in a place where I could be spat on..It didn’t hurt :)
wait for the autisms to kick in
waits………waits
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:
Arts, Arts, it’s worsererer than we thought!It is too early to have firm data about the impact of COVID-19 on housing arrangements, but according to a survey compiled by online consumer comparison website Finder, an estimated 26 per cent of Australian households has a child over the age of 21 living at home, totalling more than 1.5 million families.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-05/adults-forced-to-move-back-home-with-parents-during-coronavirus/12284144
JFC!
shameful.
I agree, sm. They should have been down at the mine at 13 and only seen again at christmas.
Scheeh… why did I look in…
sibeen said:
Arts, Arts, it’s worsererer than we thought!It is too early to have firm data about the impact of COVID-19 on housing arrangements, but according to a survey compiled by online consumer comparison website Finder, an estimated 26 per cent of Australian households has a child over the age of 21 living at home, totalling more than 1.5 million families.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-05/adults-forced-to-move-back-home-with-parents-during-coronavirus/12284144
JFC!
This isn’t going to happen… Mr Arts and I bought a house on the other side of the suburb to kick to kids into :)
Spider Lily said:
sibeen said:But the autisms?
Hmmm. F cough em
see Shebs… this is how you be classy about fucking swearing.
monkey skipper said:
Speedy said:
monkey skipper said:
Oh. I don’t know If I mentioned this but I am expecting another little grandchild to arrive into the world at the end of the year. That might make Christmas a little bit exciting. :-)
:) Are you a nan, or a grandma or something else?
Nana.
:)
You marriage comments are interesting. I always figured that the biggest commitment you could make to someone was starting a family with them. That child binds people together for a lifetime, whether they want it or not. Marriage is not the same.
I never wanted to be married, well, not since mum told me that, “If you invite your father to your wedding, I will not attend it!”_. That was when I was about 12 years old, so at least I had some time to get used to the idea. I never wanted children either, which helped, but I changed my mind at the age of 29, with a bit of FOMO.
Spider Lily said:
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:shameful.
I agree, sm. They should have been down at the mine at 13 and only seen again at christmas.
Scheeh… why did I look in…
I think he was kidding…a little bit
Arts said:
Spider Lily said:
Hey Dudes..I don’t normally do stuff that is normal.. but I did do the flu shot..
Why.. because I’m in a place where I could be spat on..It didn’t hurt :)
wait for the autisms to kick in
Ha.. funneee girl :*
Speedy said:
monkey skipper said:
Speedy said::) Are you a nan, or a grandma or something else?
Nana.
:)
You marriage comments are interesting. I always figured that the biggest commitment you could make to someone was starting a family with them. That child binds people together for a lifetime, whether they want it or not. Marriage is not the same.
I never wanted to be married, well, not since mum told me that, “If you invite your father to your wedding, I will not attend it!”_. That was when I was about 12 years old, so at least I had some time to get used to the idea. I never wanted children either, which helped, but I changed my mind at the age of 29, with a bit of FOMO.
FOMO?
Fear of marriage …
Spider Lily said:
Arts said:
Spider Lily said:
Hey Dudes..I don’t normally do stuff that is normal.. but I did do the flu shot..
Why.. because I’m in a place where I could be spat on..It didn’t hurt :)
wait for the autisms to kick in
Ha.. funneee girl :*
Hey…hey….hey, I said it first, damnit!
sibeen said:
Spider Lily said:
Arts said:wait for the autisms to kick in
Ha.. funneee girl :*
Hey…hey….hey, I said it first, damnit!
monkey skipper said:
Spider Lily said:
sibeen said:I agree, sm. They should have been down at the mine at 13 and only seen again at christmas.
Scheeh… why did I look in…
I think he was kidding…a little bit
Teenagers. I’ll let Arts explain :)
Speedy said:
monkey skipper said:
Speedy said::) Are you a nan, or a grandma or something else?
Nana.
:)
You marriage comments are interesting. I always figured that the biggest commitment you could make to someone was starting a family with them. That child binds people together for a lifetime, whether they want it or not. Marriage is not the same.
I never wanted to be married, well, not since mum told me that, “If you invite your father to your wedding, I will not attend it!”_. That was when I was about 12 years old, so at least I had some time to get used to the idea. I never wanted children either, which helped, but I changed my mind at the age of 29, with a bit of FOMO.
Yep , family come in different shapes and sizes…that is for sure. I think my marriage thing was more about feeling pressured to make something work in the marriage setting that they didn’t really and truly want to do. Parenting is different as you allluded to.
sibeen said:
monkey skipper said:
Spider Lily said:Scheeh… why did I look in…
I think he was kidding…a little bit
Teenagers. I’ll let Arts explain :)
Pfft.. no explanation needed.. we know :)
Spider Lily said:
sibeen said:
monkey skipper said:I think he was kidding…a little bit
Teenagers. I’ll let Arts explain :)
Pfft.. no explanation needed.. we know :)
don’t tell me, I’m gonna have to up my drinking game…
Supper quiche cooked and cooling a little.
sibeen said:
Speedy said:
monkey skipper said:Nana.
:)
You marriage comments are interesting. I always figured that the biggest commitment you could make to someone was starting a family with them. That child binds people together for a lifetime, whether they want it or not. Marriage is not the same.
I never wanted to be married, well, not since mum told me that, “If you invite your father to your wedding, I will not attend it!”_. That was when I was about 12 years old, so at least I had some time to get used to the idea. I never wanted children either, which helped, but I changed my mind at the age of 29, with a bit of FOMO.
FOMO?
Fear of marriage …
Yeah, that, and fear of missing out (on having kids).
In fact, I have such serious issues with the idea of marriage that the word “wife” makes me feel a little ill.
Bubblecar said:
Supper quiche cooked and cooling a little.
looks good!
Arts said:
Spider Lily said:
sibeen said:Teenagers. I’ll let Arts explain :)
Pfft.. no explanation needed.. we know :)
don’t tell me, I’m gonna have to up my drinking game…
Yup
Speedy said:
sibeen said:
Speedy said::)
You marriage comments are interesting. I always figured that the biggest commitment you could make to someone was starting a family with them. That child binds people together for a lifetime, whether they want it or not. Marriage is not the same.
I never wanted to be married, well, not since mum told me that, “If you invite your father to your wedding, I will not attend it!”_. That was when I was about 12 years old, so at least I had some time to get used to the idea. I never wanted children either, which helped, but I changed my mind at the age of 29, with a bit of FOMO.
FOMO?
Fear of marriage …
Yeah, that, and fear of missing out (on having kids).
In fact, I have such serious issues with the idea of marriage that the word “wife” makes me feel a little ill.
I didn’t get married until after two kids and we had paid the house off… I mean I fell like there are some things you really need to be sure about…
Speedy said:
sibeen said:
Speedy said::)
You marriage comments are interesting. I always figured that the biggest commitment you could make to someone was starting a family with them. That child binds people together for a lifetime, whether they want it or not. Marriage is not the same.
I never wanted to be married, well, not since mum told me that, “If you invite your father to your wedding, I will not attend it!”_. That was when I was about 12 years old, so at least I had some time to get used to the idea. I never wanted children either, which helped, but I changed my mind at the age of 29, with a bit of FOMO.
FOMO?
Fear of marriage …
Yeah, that, and fear of missing out (on having kids).
In fact, I have such serious issues with the idea of marriage that the word “wife” makes me feel a little ill.
fear of missing out
slaps forehead
Cheers :)
Spider Lily said:
Arts said:
Spider Lily said:Pfft.. no explanation needed.. we know :)
don’t tell me, I’m gonna have to up my drinking game…
Yup
I just didn’t respond to the obvious.
Speedy said:
sibeen said:
Speedy said::)
You marriage comments are interesting. I always figured that the biggest commitment you could make to someone was starting a family with them. That child binds people together for a lifetime, whether they want it or not. Marriage is not the same.
I never wanted to be married, well, not since mum told me that, “If you invite your father to your wedding, I will not attend it!”_. That was when I was about 12 years old, so at least I had some time to get used to the idea. I never wanted children either, which helped, but I changed my mind at the age of 29, with a bit of FOMO.
FOMO?
Fear of marriage …
Yeah, that, and fear of missing out (on having kids).
In fact, I have such serious issues with the idea of marriage that the word “wife” makes me feel a little ill.
sibeen said:
Speedy said:
sibeen said:FOMO?
Fear of marriage …
Yeah, that, and fear of missing out (on having kids).
In fact, I have such serious issues with the idea of marriage that the word “wife” makes me feel a little ill.
fear of missing out
slaps forehead
Cheers :)
tempted to add something there… funny and probably true but…I won’t this time!
sibeen said:
Spider Lily said:
Arts said:don’t tell me, I’m gonna have to up my drinking game…
Yup
I just didn’t respond to the obvious.
So.. come on
night night you lot!
Honest Government Ad | Economic Recovery
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CMUtKWubxg
—
Brutal.
Spider Lily said:
sibeen said:
Spider Lily said:Yup
I just didn’t respond to the obvious.
So.. come on
I already told her to drink heavily. I’m not in the habit of repeating myself.
Arts said:
Speedy said:
sibeen said:FOMO?
Fear of marriage …
Yeah, that, and fear of missing out (on having kids).
In fact, I have such serious issues with the idea of marriage that the word “wife” makes me feel a little ill.
I didn’t get married until after two kids and we had paid the house off… I mean I fell like there are some things you really need to be sure about…
Mr Speedy and I paid the house off in our late 20’s, before we decided to try to have kids. Our kids are now 15 and 16, but despite knowing he is my partner for life, I still don’t want to marry him.
sibeen said:
Spider Lily said:
sibeen said:I just didn’t respond to the obvious.
So.. come on
I already told her to drink heavily. I’m not in the habit of repeating myself.
:)
House in Norway with a view that’s possibly too lovely. You’d feel obliged to be staring at the vista all the time.
Spider Lily said:
sibeen said:
Spider Lily said:So.. come on
I already told her to drink heavily. I’m not in the habit of repeating myself.
:)
I’m looking forward to one of our local breweries that are brewing a red ale… OMG it is an amazing brew :)
2 weeks and Valentina will be available :)
Speedy said:
Arts said:
Speedy said:Yeah, that, and fear of missing out (on having kids).
In fact, I have such serious issues with the idea of marriage that the word “wife” makes me feel a little ill.
I didn’t get married until after two kids and we had paid the house off… I mean I fell like there are some things you really need to be sure about…
Mr Speedy and I paid the house off in our late 20’s, before we decided to try to have kids. Our kids are now 15 and 16, but despite knowing he is my partner for life, I still don’t want to marry him.
I just think it’s great that we live in a time when we can make these choices.
Bubblecar said:
House in Norway with a view that’s possibly too lovely. You’d feel obliged to be staring at the vista all the time.
:)
unfjordable.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
House in Norway with a view that’s possibly too lovely. You’d feel obliged to be staring at the vista all the time.
:)
unfjordable.
No doubt :)
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
House in Norway with a view that’s possibly too lovely. You’d feel obliged to be staring at the vista all the time.
:)
unfjordable.
ROFL
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
House in Norway with a view that’s possibly too lovely. You’d feel obliged to be staring at the vista all the time.
:)
unfjordable.
That’s very, very good, sm.
golf clap
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
House in Norway with a view that’s possibly too lovely. You’d feel obliged to be staring at the vista all the time.
:)
unfjordable.
That’s very, very good, sm.
golf clap
It was the week’s best humorous comment :)
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
House in Norway with a view that’s possibly too lovely. You’d feel obliged to be staring at the vista all the time.
:)
unfjordable.
Next time..
Bubblecar said:
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said::)
unfjordable.
That’s very, very good, sm.
golf clap
It was the week’s best humorous comment :)
It is my deceased brother’s joke. But I suppose it is mine now.
Arts said:
Speedy said:
Arts said:I didn’t get married until after two kids and we had paid the house off… I mean I fell like there are some things you really need to be sure about…
Mr Speedy and I paid the house off in our late 20’s, before we decided to try to have kids. Our kids are now 15 and 16, but despite knowing he is my partner for life, I still don’t want to marry him.
I just think it’s great that we live in a time when we can make these choices.
Indeed. Lucky for me, or I would have been burnt at the stake, or worse, by now.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sibeen said:That’s very, very good, sm.
golf clap
It was the week’s best humorous comment :)
It is my deceased brother’s joke. But I suppose it is mine now.
A worthwhile inheritance :)
Bubblecar said:
Supper quiche cooked and cooling a little.
passes plate How gracious of you to offer. But no thanks, I must resist. Not all of it, just half will be enough.
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:
Supper quiche cooked and cooling a little.
passes plate How gracious of you to offer. But no thanks, I must resist. Not all of it, just half will be enough.
Serves Woodie the single remaining small slice
How good is AWC? From their latest newsletter:
At sites where conservation activity has occurred, native mammal populations have increased by an average of 46%. In feral predator-free areas, such as Australian Wildlife Conservancy’s (AWC) network of safe havens, average abundance has increased by more than 500%.
Good night ever one :)
Speedy said:
How good is AWC? From their latest newsletter:At sites where conservation activity has occurred, native mammal populations have increased by an average of 46%. In feral predator-free areas, such as Australian Wildlife Conservancy’s (AWC) network of safe havens, average abundance has increased by more than 500%.
That’s heartening.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sibeen said:That’s very, very good, sm.
golf clap
It was the week’s best humorous comment :)
It is my deceased brother’s joke. But I suppose it is mine now.
Jokes can be passed down as a family tradition. In fact it’s almost mandatory.
Unfortunately sometimes others have to suffer the consequences. Olaf the Bland was known as a great teller of stories, all of them bad. In the longhouses around Norway they’d often offer poorer districts food if they would just take Olaf in for the winter. Olaf has passed on his jokes to his descendants, many of them actually becoming worse, believe it or not, through translation.
We now suffer the consequences.
Spider Lily said:
Good night ever one :)
Nighto :)
Spider Lily said:
Good night ever one :)
Goodnight Spider Lily.
I’ll be away too. Goodnight all.
Bubblecar said:
Speedy said:
How good is AWC? From their latest newsletter:At sites where conservation activity has occurred, native mammal populations have increased by an average of 46%. In feral predator-free areas, such as Australian Wildlife Conservancy’s (AWC) network of safe havens, average abundance has increased by more than 500%.
That’s heartening.
:)
sarahs mum said:
Honest Government Ad | Economic Recovery
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CMUtKWubxg—
Brutal.
Well the recovery round these parts is gunna be quick I’d reckon. Just a short trip out for a cuppa today and it was caravan after caravan after camper trailer after ute with camping bulge and truck with canoes and caravans and winnebagos and camper trailers. Took 5 caravans to go past before I could turn onto the highway. Down the highway a bit at the picnic area, there was another 6 parked there having lunch.
Coming back again, it wasn’t much different going the other way.
Most with QLD number plates too.
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:It was the week’s best humorous comment :)
It is my deceased brother’s joke. But I suppose it is mine now.
Jokes can be passed down as a family tradition. In fact it’s almost mandatory.
Unfortunately sometimes others have to suffer the consequences. Olaf the Bland was known as a great teller of stories, all of them bad. In the longhouses around Norway they’d often offer poorer districts food if they would just take Olaf in for the winter. Olaf has passed on his jokes to his descendants, many of them actually becoming worse, believe it or not, through translation.
We now suffer the consequences.
I miss my brother. He was an arsehole but mostly because he was overly clever and enjoyed the sport of mind gaming. I never wanted to live with him. But i do miss him.
Woodie said:
sarahs mum said:
Honest Government Ad | Economic Recovery
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CMUtKWubxg—
Brutal.
Well the recovery round these parts is gunna be quick I’d reckon. Just a short trip out for a cuppa today and it was caravan after caravan after camper trailer after ute with camping bulge and truck with canoes and caravans and winnebagos and camper trailers. Took 5 caravans to go past before I could turn onto the highway. Down the highway a bit at the picnic area, there was another 6 parked there having lunch.
Coming back again, it wasn’t much different going the other way.
Most with QLD number plates too.
Was in Dunnoly yesterday and stopped in for a coffee before the funeral. First thing someone said to me was “the caravans are back on the road”. I hadn’t paid any attention up till then but 10 or 15 minutes of observation confirmed the analysis.
Woodie said:
sarahs mum said:
Honest Government Ad | Economic Recovery
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CMUtKWubxg—
Brutal.
Well the recovery round these parts is gunna be quick I’d reckon. Just a short trip out for a cuppa today and it was caravan after caravan after camper trailer after ute with camping bulge and truck with canoes and caravans and winnebagos and camper trailers. Took 5 caravans to go past before I could turn onto the highway. Down the highway a bit at the picnic area, there was another 6 parked there having lunch.
Coming back again, it wasn’t much different going the other way.
Most with QLD number plates too.
Is the border open?
Bubblecar said:
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:
Supper quiche cooked and cooling a little.
passes plate How gracious of you to offer. But no thanks, I must resist. Not all of it, just half will be enough.
Serves Woodie the single remaining small slice
scoffs the lot Now….. what’s for dessert?
sibeen said:
Woodie said:
sarahs mum said:
Honest Government Ad | Economic Recovery
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CMUtKWubxg—
Brutal.
Well the recovery round these parts is gunna be quick I’d reckon. Just a short trip out for a cuppa today and it was caravan after caravan after camper trailer after ute with camping bulge and truck with canoes and caravans and winnebagos and camper trailers. Took 5 caravans to go past before I could turn onto the highway. Down the highway a bit at the picnic area, there was another 6 parked there having lunch.
Coming back again, it wasn’t much different going the other way.
Most with QLD number plates too.
Was in Dunnoly yesterday and stopped in for a coffee before the funeral. First thing someone said to me was “the caravans are back on the road”. I hadn’t paid any attention up till then but 10 or 15 minutes of observation confirmed the analysis.
There was a caravan in our caravan park today even though the entrances are still stringed off.
beef noodles and coffee done
looks up at clock
hard to believe it’s that late, my internal clock must have slowed down, perhaps it stopped for a while
sibeen said:
Woodie said:
sarahs mum said:
Honest Government Ad | Economic Recovery
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CMUtKWubxg—
Brutal.
Well the recovery round these parts is gunna be quick I’d reckon. Just a short trip out for a cuppa today and it was caravan after caravan after camper trailer after ute with camping bulge and truck with canoes and caravans and winnebagos and camper trailers. Took 5 caravans to go past before I could turn onto the highway. Down the highway a bit at the picnic area, there was another 6 parked there having lunch.
Coming back again, it wasn’t much different going the other way.
Most with QLD number plates too.
Was in Dunnoly yesterday and stopped in for a coffee before the funeral. First thing someone said to me was “the caravans are back on the road”. I hadn’t paid any attention up till then but 10 or 15 minutes of observation confirmed the analysis.
They’re bloody everywhere. Even the stop/go lady at the roadworks said something about it. And the roadworks weren’t even on the highway.
sarahs mum said:
Woodie said:
sarahs mum said:
Honest Government Ad | Economic Recovery
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CMUtKWubxg—
Brutal.
Well the recovery round these parts is gunna be quick I’d reckon. Just a short trip out for a cuppa today and it was caravan after caravan after camper trailer after ute with camping bulge and truck with canoes and caravans and winnebagos and camper trailers. Took 5 caravans to go past before I could turn onto the highway. Down the highway a bit at the picnic area, there was another 6 parked there having lunch.
Coming back again, it wasn’t much different going the other way.
Most with QLD number plates too.
Is the border open?
It was ever closed coming south.
earphones in, some music might help
JT Coldfire – she’s crazy
transition said:
earphones in, some music might helpJT Coldfire – she’s crazy
kickback blues, some nice piano in there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ugd-piPw-h8
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/04/covid-19-lancet-retracts-paper-that-halted-hydroxychloroquine-trials
Embarrassing.
I been a really good boy, done all my homework, can I go to bed now
Good morning Holidayers. Five degrees this morning. It’s pre-dawn out there.
Just checked – sunrise here is not for another half an hour. Almost to the shortest day.
I have got to get me one of these!
https://imgur.com/gallery/ShbPhrw
captain_spalding said:
I have got to get me one of these!https://imgur.com/gallery/ShbPhrw
and fill your house with salt?
Hey Poik,
Am reading a novel about a pharmaceutical company in South Africa, who are infecting HIV/AIDS patients with fungal meningococcus and pneumonia in order to sell more drugs. The patients are dying because the doctors believe they’re using the right meds. So not only is the company getting money from HIV/AIDS meds, but antibiotics as well.
Big Pharma indeed.
Today I am cleaning out the house and selling stuff.
That car that Mini Me begged us for? A whole year and she got one for Christmas? Used twice? Gonna be sold. Baby stuff like change table and high chair, gonna be sold.
Mini Me is under instruction to clean her bedroom and any books, toys or clothes that she’s too big for, are gonna be donated either to the clothing/toy bins at daycare or the op shop.
God morning Saturday.
Overcast and gloomy,16.6°C, 81% RH, with light breezes. BoM predicts a maximum of 22°C and a chance of rain.
Bread baking and other inside work (tidying and cleaning, perhaps hanging paintings) are on the agenda.
I’m back. Bruna and I went for a 3km walk. We went to the base of Mt Rouse and back. I didn’t try walking up and over. I need to work up to that again. We saw sheep and lambs and cows and calves. She had a very bouncy time – she was on a harness…my arms got a workout as well as my legs. She has to understand that when I walk her, she behaves like a Good Dog.
I’m about to go outside and set up the chipper to deal with the cuttings from the ornamental sage I chopped back yesterday. I still smell sagey, even after I showered last night.
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
I have got to get me one of these!https://imgur.com/gallery/ShbPhrw
and fill your house with salt?
salt’s not so bad. Vacuum cleaner would get a lot, rest would combine with floor-wash water to kill a few more bacteria.
I’m back in chat.
Michael V said:
God morning Saturday.Overcast and gloomy,16.6°C, 81% RH, with light breezes. BoM predicts a maximum of 22°C and a chance of rain.
Bread baking and other inside work (tidying and cleaning, perhaps hanging paintings) are on the agenda.
Overcast?? Not a cloud in the sky here.
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:
God morning Saturday.Overcast and gloomy,16.6°C, 81% RH, with light breezes. BoM predicts a maximum of 22°C and a chance of rain.
Bread baking and other inside work (tidying and cleaning, perhaps hanging paintings) are on the agenda.
Overcast?? Not a cloud in the sky here.
Yep, overcast and gloomy with the occasional bit of drizzle. There’s cloud off the coast from you, travelling just a bit west of north. Here’s where it lands…
Ha, someone wants to buy the possibly haunted TV which randomly changes channels and volume. I wrote it in the listing and again to the potential buyer. He still wants it.
Peak Warming Man said:
I’m back in chat.
morning all… the zoo has finally opened again. I will be taking the family, but I have to wait until the teenager has made crepes and the husband has had scrambled eggs and the boy teenager has found his bus pass .. I should have just gone myself.
Another morning of shutting the door to my office.. is it possible I have reached peak family time?
oh the boy has found his bus pass… it was right in front of his face… glory days.
I might be losing my shit.
Arts said:
morning all… the zoo has finally opened again. I will be taking the family, but I have to wait until the teenager has made crepes and the husband has had scrambled eggs and the boy teenager has found his bus pass .. I should have just gone myself.Another morning of shutting the door to my office.. is it possible I have reached peak family time?
oh the boy has found his bus pass… it was right in front of his face… glory days.
I might be losing my shit.
i think i heard that the ABC will be at the zoo this morning.
Bogsnorkler said:
Arts said:
morning all… the zoo has finally opened again. I will be taking the family, but I have to wait until the teenager has made crepes and the husband has had scrambled eggs and the boy teenager has found his bus pass .. I should have just gone myself.Another morning of shutting the door to my office.. is it possible I have reached peak family time?
oh the boy has found his bus pass… it was right in front of his face… glory days.
I might be losing my shit.
i think i heard that the ABC will be at the zoo this morning.
there have been a couple of radio show there in recent days… it was all over their socials.
I lost my shit a long time ago. Never really got it back…
Divine Angel said:
I lost my shit a long time ago. Never really got it back…
well maybe my shit has met with yours and they are enjoying a Pina colada on an island somewhere nice.
Tamb said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I’m back in chat.
So am I.
Micro blew up last night. Smoke, flames, noise.
Went to Atherton & bought a new one.115 km round trip.
Bummer.
Arts said:
morning all… the zoo has finally opened again. I will be taking the family, but I have to wait until the teenager has made crepes and the husband has had scrambled eggs and the boy teenager has found his bus pass .. I should have just gone myself.Another morning of shutting the door to my office.. is it possible I have reached peak family time?
oh the boy has found his bus pass… it was right in front of his face… glory days.
I might be losing my shit.
RUOK?
Michael V said:
Tamb said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I’m back in chat.
So am I.
Micro blew up last night. Smoke, flames, noise.
Went to Atherton & bought a new one.115 km round trip.Bummer.
Michael V said:
Arts said:
morning all… the zoo has finally opened again. I will be taking the family, but I have to wait until the teenager has made crepes and the husband has had scrambled eggs and the boy teenager has found his bus pass .. I should have just gone myself.Another morning of shutting the door to my office.. is it possible I have reached peak family time?
oh the boy has found his bus pass… it was right in front of his face… glory days.
I might be losing my shit.
RUOK?
(Formatting fixed.)
The head of Rio Tinto’s iron ore division said he has “taken accountability” for the destruction of a 46,000-year-old Aboriginal heritage site but refused to give a direct answer when asked if the company knew traditional owners did not want the rock shelter destroyed, saying: “clearly, there was a misunderstanding”.
and…
Salisbury said the company “regrettably … thought we had a shared understanding with the PKKP about the future of the sites” and would conduct a review to learn “how did this go wrong from our point of view”.
and…
“We can’t keep looking backwards,” Salisbury told interviewer Hamish Macdonald. “We want to repair our relationship with traditional owners.”
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/jun/05/rio-tinto-blames-misunderstanding-for-destruction-of-46000-year-old-aboriginal-site
sarahs mum said:
The head of Rio Tinto’s iron ore division said he has “taken accountability” for the destruction of a 46,000-year-old Aboriginal heritage site but refused to give a direct answer when asked if the company knew traditional owners did not want the rock shelter destroyed, saying: “clearly, there was a misunderstanding”.and…
Salisbury said the company “regrettably … thought we had a shared understanding with the PKKP about the future of the sites” and would conduct a review to learn “how did this go wrong from our point of view”.
and…
“We can’t keep looking backwards,” Salisbury told interviewer Hamish Macdonald. “We want to repair our relationship with traditional owners.”
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/jun/05/rio-tinto-blames-misunderstanding-for-destruction-of-46000-year-old-aboriginal-site
I’n pretty sure they are betting on a dead horse.There is no way reparations can be possible. The heritage has been wantonly destroyed.
Finally found the chat thread. Way down there.
An interesting morning was had. Firstly I had to hand grind a domed glass to fit a clock that the old boss wanted to give to his son as a momento. He’d aready given the other that my brother had done the signwriting of the shop name on to one son so of course the other son wanted one too. When he’d tried to take it down off the wall to get the dial signwritten, he dropped it and broke the glass.
Upon delivering it I was also given the task of cleaning the last of the rubbish from under the shop. This time a ute load of thick glass shelving and sliding doors from glass show cabinets.
During this time I had two calls from people wanting me to look at their clocks which resulted in me bringing home three clocks to repair. So it looks like I’m not about to retire after all.
37s ago 05:55
In breaking news, the Black Lives Matter protest in Sydney has been authorised by the NSW Court of Appeals. It is now legal (it was going ahead anyway).
I’m back. I’ve been crying (peeling onions and they turned out to be potent ones!). And now my lungs are full of curry smell because I made green tomato relish. There was more of it than I thought there would be. I thickened with arrowroot this time, because thickening with flour as the recipe says, makes the relish cloudy. I’m quite pleased with the look of the arrowroot version.
Divine Angel said:
Today I am cleaning out the house and selling stuff.That car that Mini Me begged us for? A whole year and she got one for Christmas? Used twice? Gonna be sold. Baby stuff like change table and high chair, gonna be sold.
Mini Me is under instruction to clean her bedroom and any books, toys or clothes that she’s too big for, are gonna be donated either to the clothing/toy bins at daycare or the op shop.
My mother did that with all the toys we had not been seen using for a short while.
buffy said:
I’m back. I’ve been crying (peeling onions and they turned out to be potent ones!). And now my lungs are full of curry smell because I made green tomato relish. There was more of it than I thought there would be. I thickened with arrowroot this time, because thickening with flour as the recipe says, makes the relish cloudy. I’m quite pleased with the look of the arrowroot version.
How long till the relish will be at it’s best.
And the white supremacists all lives matter mob is out…
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-06/arrests-at-sydney-black-lives-matter-protests/12329066
buffy said:
I’m back. I’ve been crying (peeling onions and they turned out to be potent ones!). And now my lungs are full of curry smell because I made green tomato relish. There was more of it than I thought there would be. I thickened with arrowroot this time, because thickening with flour as the recipe says, makes the relish cloudy. I’m quite pleased with the look of the arrowroot version.
i have read that you shouldn’t use flour to thicken pickles etc.
2. The word Economy, like a great many others, has, in its application, been very much abused. It is generally used as if it meant parsimony, stinginess, or niggardliness; and, at best, merely the refraining from expending money. Hence misers and close-fisted men disguise their propensity and conduct under the name of economy; whereas the most liberal disposition, a disposition precisely the contrary of that of the miser, is perfectly consistent with economy.
3. Economy means management, and nothing more; and it is generally applied to the affairs of a house and family, which affairs are an object of the greatest importance, whether as relating to individuals or to a nation. A nation is made powerful and to be honoured in the world, not so much by the number of its people as by the ability and character of that people; and the ability and character of a people depend, in a great measure, upon the economy of the several families, which, all taken together, make up the nation. There never yet was, and never will be, a nation permanently great, consisting, for the greater part, of wretched and miserable families.
4. In every view of the matter, therefore, it is desirable; that the families of which a nation consists should be happily off: and as this depends, in a great degree, upon the management of their concerns, the present work is intended to convey, to the families of the labouring classes in particular, such information as I think may be useful with regard to that management.
5. I lay it down as a maxim, that for a family to be happy, they must be well supplied with food and raiment. It is a sorry effort that people make to persuade others, or to persuade themselves, that they can be happy in a state of want of the necessaries of life. The doctrines which fanaticism preaches, and which teach men to be content with poverty, have a very pernicious tendency, and are calculated to favour tyrants by giving them passive slaves. To live well, to enjoy all things that make life pleasant, is the right of every man who constantly uses his strength judiciously and lawfully. It is to blaspheme God to suppose, that he created man to be miserable, to hunger, thirst, and perish with cold, in the midst of that abundance which is the fruit of their own labour. Instead, therefore, of applauding “happy poverty,” which applause is so much the fashion of the present day, I despise the man that is poor and contented; for, such content is a certain proof of a base disposition, a disposition which is the enemy of all industry, all exertion, all love of independence.
-Cobbett
Michael V said:
And thewhite supremacistsall lives matter mob is out…https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-06/arrests-at-sydney-black-lives-matter-protests/12329066
“But sometimes you have those moments when you have a win over the system.”
or over safety but hey
note of course the government being in a rush to reopen other gatherings so it’s all a bit inconsistent but hey
Michael V said:
And thewhite supremacistsall lives matter mob is out…https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-06/arrests-at-sydney-black-lives-matter-protests/12329066
It seems rather pointless to me to make protest marches in Australia in response to what is happening in the USA. They don’t give a fuck what their own people think, let alone us.
party_pants said:
Michael V said:
And thewhite supremacistsall lives matter mob is out…https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-06/arrests-at-sydney-black-lives-matter-protests/12329066
It seems rather pointless to me to make protest marches in Australia in response to what is happening in the USA. They don’t give a fuck what their own people think, let alone us.
But We Could Spread COVID-19 In Solidarity
party_pants said:
Michael V said:
And thewhite supremacistsall lives matter mob is out…https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-06/arrests-at-sydney-black-lives-matter-protests/12329066
It seems rather pointless to me to make protest marches in Australia in response to what is happening in the USA. They don’t give a fuck what their own people think, let alone us.
I think by calling it pointless you are missing the point.
party_pants said:
Michael V said:
And thewhite supremacistsall lives matter mob is out…https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-06/arrests-at-sydney-black-lives-matter-protests/12329066
It seems rather pointless to me to make protest marches in Australia in response to what is happening in the USA. They don’t give a fuck what their own people think, let alone us.
There are also black people in Australia who also suffer most of the disadvantages of those in the DSA.
SCIENCE said:
party_pants said:
Michael V said:
And thewhite supremacistsall lives matter mob is out…https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-06/arrests-at-sydney-black-lives-matter-protests/12329066
It seems rather pointless to me to make protest marches in Australia in response to what is happening in the USA. They don’t give a fuck what their own people think, let alone us.
But We Could Spread COVID-19 In Solidarity
That worries me.
SCIENCE said:
party_pants said:
Michael V said:
And thewhite supremacistsall lives matter mob is out…https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-06/arrests-at-sydney-black-lives-matter-protests/12329066
It seems rather pointless to me to make protest marches in Australia in response to what is happening in the USA. They don’t give a fuck what their own people think, let alone us.
But We Could Spread COVID-19 In Solidarity
That is not such a good idea. We’ve only just reopened the pubs.
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:
Michael V said:
And thewhite supremacistsall lives matter mob is out…https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-06/arrests-at-sydney-black-lives-matter-protests/12329066
It seems rather pointless to me to make protest marches in Australia in response to what is happening in the USA. They don’t give a fuck what their own people think, let alone us.
I think by calling it pointless you are missing the point.
What is the point? Trump doesn’t care.
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:
Michael V said:
And thewhite supremacistsall lives matter mob is out…https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-06/arrests-at-sydney-black-lives-matter-protests/12329066
It seems rather pointless to me to make protest marches in Australia in response to what is happening in the USA. They don’t give a fuck what their own people think, let alone us.
There are also black people in Australia who also suffer most of the disadvantages of those in the DSA.

party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:It seems rather pointless to me to make protest marches in Australia in response to what is happening in the USA. They don’t give a fuck what their own people think, let alone us.
I think by calling it pointless you are missing the point.
What is the point? Trump doesn’t care.
In this case it is not about Trump.
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
roughbarked said:
Walking around out front I found some birds nest fungi. I’ve usually only found that out the back under the Casuarinas I planted.
Odd looking critters.
They are very pretty. The bird’s nest fungi we had in Brisbane were silver inside.
These starrt off white then go silver, later darker. All depends on when rain comes to wash them out of the nest.
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:
Michael V said:
And thewhite supremacistsall lives matter mob is out…https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-06/arrests-at-sydney-black-lives-matter-protests/12329066
It seems rather pointless to me to make protest marches in Australia in response to what is happening in the USA. They don’t give a fuck what their own people think, let alone us.
There are also black people in Australia who also suffer most of the disadvantages of those in the DSA.
BWHAAAAAT?
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:
Michael V said:
And thewhite supremacistsall lives matter mob is out…https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-06/arrests-at-sydney-black-lives-matter-protests/12329066
It seems rather pointless to me to make protest marches in Australia in response to what is happening in the USA. They don’t give a fuck what their own people think, let alone us.
There are also black people in Australia who also suffer most of the disadvantages of those in the DSA.
Yes, but economic and social disadvantage is not the same as being killed by the sort of police brutality we are seeing over there.
My worry is that hot-heads are going to turn this into a confrontation with Australian police for no good reason. We can do without all the US race relations baggage being thrown into the mix in the Australian context. No good will come of it.
sarahs mum said:
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:It seems rather pointless to me to make protest marches in Australia in response to what is happening in the USA. They don’t give a fuck what their own people think, let alone us.
There are also black people in Australia who also suffer most of the disadvantages of those in the DSA.
And the other day after Trudeau’s long silence he refuesed to put shit on the USA and said that Canada had refection to be done in regards to their first nation peoples. He acknowledged. And I commented a few hours later that I could not imagine ScoMo doing the same. And then ScoMO came out in support of Trump and failed to acknowledge.
Bogsnorkler said:
buffy said:
I’m back. I’ve been crying (peeling onions and they turned out to be potent ones!). And now my lungs are full of curry smell because I made green tomato relish. There was more of it than I thought there would be. I thickened with arrowroot this time, because thickening with flour as the recipe says, makes the relish cloudy. I’m quite pleased with the look of the arrowroot version.
i have read that you shouldn’t use flour to thicken pickles etc.
Don’t you go disagreeing with Cookery the Australian Way now.
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:It seems rather pointless to me to make protest marches in Australia in response to what is happening in the USA. They don’t give a fuck what their own people think, let alone us.
There are also black people in Australia who also suffer most of the disadvantages of those in the DSA.
Yes, but economic and social disadvantage is not the same as being killed by the sort of police brutality we are seeing over there.
My worry is that hot-heads are going to turn this into a confrontation with Australian police for no good reason. We can do without all the US race relations baggage being thrown into the mix in the Australian context. No good will come of it.
Hopefully we don’t have the groups with those agenda in Australia.
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:It seems rather pointless to me to make protest marches in Australia in response to what is happening in the USA. They don’t give a fuck what their own people think, let alone us.
There are also black people in Australia who also suffer most of the disadvantages of those in the DSA.
Yes, but economic and social disadvantage is not the same as being killed by the sort of police brutality we are seeing over there.
My worry is that hot-heads are going to turn this into a confrontation with Australian police for no good reason. We can do without all the US race relations baggage being thrown into the mix in the Australian context. No good will come of it.
How militant do you want your Aborigines?
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:I think by calling it pointless you are missing the point.
What is the point? Trump doesn’t care.
In this case it is not about Trump.
If it is not about Trump then now is not the time to start organising protest marches. Not during COVID-19. There’s a lot of things to get sorted out post-COVID-19, this can go on the list for later.
“57 Buffalo police officers resign ‘in disgust’ over the standing down of two colleagues who pushed elderly man”.
Good riddance.
We do seem to have quite a different police system here. And instances of police going into houses and shooting people dead are rather rare. Even police shooting people on the street is rare.
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:What is the point? Trump doesn’t care.
In this case it is not about Trump.
If it is not about Trump then now is not the time to start organising protest marches. Not during COVID-19. There’s a lot of things to get sorted out post-COVID-19, this can go on the list for later.
I get you. True. But also..when is the time?
roughbarked said:
“57 Buffalo police officers resign ‘in disgust’ over the standing down of two colleagues who pushed elderly man”.Good riddance.
I’m good.
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:In this case it is not about Trump.
If it is not about Trump then now is not the time to start organising protest marches. Not during COVID-19. There’s a lot of things to get sorted out post-COVID-19, this can go on the list for later.
I get you. True. But also..when is the time?
Dunno. September or October when we’re back to something approaching normal.
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:It seems rather pointless to me to make protest marches in Australia in response to what is happening in the USA. They don’t give a fuck what their own people think, let alone us.
There are also black people in Australia who also suffer most of the disadvantages of those in the DSA.
Yes, but economic and social disadvantage is not the same as being killed by the sort of police brutality we are seeing over there.
My worry is that hot-heads are going to turn this into a confrontation with Australian police for no good reason. We can do without all the US race relations baggage being thrown into the mix in the Australian context. No good will come of it.
we don’t always agree with party_pants but
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:What is the point? Trump doesn’t care.
In this case it is not about Trump.
If it is not about Trump then now is not the time to start organising protest marches. Not during COVID-19. There’s a lot of things to get sorted out post-COVID-19, this can go on the list for later.
but we feel like we do today
I’m uncomfortable with some of the mob mentality happening here. I know what happened here in the early 1800s. Do many of these people actually know this stuff? I hope it leads at the very least to better general knowledge. I understand there is more taught in schools now than when I went to school, but we have a large migrant population who will not know, unless they have educated themselves.
buffy said:
I’m uncomfortable with some of the mob mentality happening here. I know what happened here in the early 1800s. Do many of these people actually know this stuff? I hope it leads at the very least to better general knowledge. I understand there is more taught in schools now than when I went to school, but we have a large migrant population who will not know, unless they have educated themselves.
we also blame systematic degradation of the education system by successive governments
Anyway, probably time to get on a bike and have a pedal.
party_pants said:
Anyway, probably time to get on a bike and have a pedal.
Bikes work better if you use both pedals.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/06/new-zealand-readers-tell-us-how-they-want-the-country-to-change-after-covid-19
sarahs mum said:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/06/new-zealand-readers-tell-us-how-they-want-the-country-to-change-after-covid-19
‘Why would I want to go back into the office?,
“Working from home can bring so many bonuses – flexibility, pleasant working environment, no early morning alarms, no stressful commuting, enjoying daily lunchtime walks, better home-prepared meals, better quality sleeping and less anxiety. Why would I want to go back into the office?”
Rachael, 57, librarian, Wellington
Many jobs can be performed from home, I just didn’t think that librarian would be one of them.
sarahs mum said:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/06/new-zealand-readers-tell-us-how-they-want-the-country-to-change-after-covid-19
They’re spending their time cherry picking!
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/06/new-zealand-readers-tell-us-how-they-want-the-country-to-change-after-covid-19
‘Why would I want to go back into the office?,
“Working from home can bring so many bonuses – flexibility, pleasant working environment, no early morning alarms, no stressful commuting, enjoying daily lunchtime walks, better home-prepared meals, better quality sleeping and less anxiety. Why would I want to go back into the office?”Rachael, 57, librarian, Wellington
Many jobs can be performed from home, I just didn’t think that librarian would be one of them.
what if you’re curator of the standard function library
roughbarked said:
“57 Buffalo police officers resign ‘in disgust’ over the standing down of two colleagues who pushed elderly man”.Good riddance.
Actually, they’ve only resigned from policing the protests, not from their Police Department.
Bread is cooked, out of the oven and cooling.
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/06/new-zealand-readers-tell-us-how-they-want-the-country-to-change-after-covid-19
‘Why would I want to go back into the office?,
“Working from home can bring so many bonuses – flexibility, pleasant working environment, no early morning alarms, no stressful commuting, enjoying daily lunchtime walks, better home-prepared meals, better quality sleeping and less anxiety. Why would I want to go back into the office?”Rachael, 57, librarian, Wellington
Many jobs can be performed from home, I just didn’t think that librarian would be one of them.
I also thought that when I got to there. I suppose she could be covering books and entering data.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
“57 Buffalo police officers resign ‘in disgust’ over the standing down of two colleagues who pushed elderly man”.Good riddance.
Actually, they’ve only resigned from policing the protests, not from their Police Department.
Lock em out.
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/06/new-zealand-readers-tell-us-how-they-want-the-country-to-change-after-covid-19
‘Why would I want to go back into the office?,
“Working from home can bring so many bonuses – flexibility, pleasant working environment, no early morning alarms, no stressful commuting, enjoying daily lunchtime walks, better home-prepared meals, better quality sleeping and less anxiety. Why would I want to go back into the office?”Rachael, 57, librarian, Wellington
Many jobs can be performed from home, I just didn’t think that librarian would be one of them.
What is the go with electricity, internet, phone etc when people are told to work from home. Do they generally get an allowance? And what is the go with workplace safety? Is the employer taking a really big risk because they cannot control the environment?
buffy said:
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/06/new-zealand-readers-tell-us-how-they-want-the-country-to-change-after-covid-19
‘Why would I want to go back into the office?,
“Working from home can bring so many bonuses – flexibility, pleasant working environment, no early morning alarms, no stressful commuting, enjoying daily lunchtime walks, better home-prepared meals, better quality sleeping and less anxiety. Why would I want to go back into the office?”Rachael, 57, librarian, Wellington
Many jobs can be performed from home, I just didn’t think that librarian would be one of them.
What is the go with electricity, internet, phone etc when people are told to work from home. Do they generally get an allowance? And what is the go with workplace safety? Is the employer taking a really big risk because they cannot control the environment?
Can’t remember the details but there was discussion of all this back when it started.
Food report. I have defrosted a bit of spanakopita which I’ll pop in the oven to heat through. Presently baking some potatoes and some wedges of a golden beetroot that I just pulled. I do like the golden beetroot. I just noticed when I prepared that one that the juice is yellow. Very yellow.
Divine Angel said:
party_pants said:
Anyway, probably time to get on a bike and have a pedal.
Bikes work better if you use both pedals.
Too late. I just got back from a long ride and I have one really sore and tired leg.
Went for a walk with Lady Scruffington. She enjoyed some hors d’oeuvres of kangaroo poo.
Mr Mutant is watching a movie called Bloodshot. Mini Me has gone to bed already. Jellybean is enjoying a game of after-dinner chase-the-tennis-ball.
Divine Angel said:
Went for a walk with Lady Scruffington. She enjoyed some hors d’oeuvres of kangaroo poo.Mr Mutant is watching a movie called Bloodshot. Mini Me has gone to bed already. Jellybean is enjoying a game of after-dinner chase-the-tennis-ball.
Is Mini Me still ill?
buffy said:
Food report. I have defrosted a bit of spanakopita which I’ll pop in the oven to heat through. Presently baking some potatoes and some wedges of a golden beetroot that I just pulled. I do like the golden beetroot. I just noticed when I prepared that one that the juice is yellow. Very yellow.
Looks good.
I’m just having a bumper serve of broccoli with a bit of butter, lemon pepper, peas and a couple eggs.
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Food report. I have defrosted a bit of spanakopita which I’ll pop in the oven to heat through. Presently baking some potatoes and some wedges of a golden beetroot that I just pulled. I do like the golden beetroot. I just noticed when I prepared that one that the juice is yellow. Very yellow.
Looks good.
I’m just having a bumper serve of broccoli with a bit of butter, lemon pepper, peas and a couple eggs.
I should cook something. I have a lot of things I could cook. I even have lamb mince.
I don’t mind Seinfeld but in Mt Lawley there is a big Seinfeld mural, about 3 metres high and 30 metres long, and I can’t help thinking that something better could have been done with this artistic space.
dv said:
I don’t mind Seinfeld but in Mt Lawley there is a big Seinfeld mural, about 3 metres high and 30 metres long, and I can’t help thinking that something better could have been done with this artistic space.
Yes, it seems a waste.
Bubblecar said:
Divine Angel said:
Went for a walk with Lady Scruffington. She enjoyed some hors d’oeuvres of kangaroo poo.Mr Mutant is watching a movie called Bloodshot. Mini Me has gone to bed already. Jellybean is enjoying a game of after-dinner chase-the-tennis-ball.
Is Mini Me still ill?
No, she’s over it now. She did expend a lot of energy throwing a tantrum when i told her to clean her room today though.
The Quiz
1. Which band, in a 2000 hit song, sang these lyrics: “I know that I can’t take no more/ It ain’t no lie. I want to see you out that door/ Baby bye bye bye”?
2. The Serpentine is a 16-hectare recreational lake in which British city?
3. The Māori term hongi refers to what?
4. In which ocean would you find the Walvis Ridge?
5. Which spy novelist’s birth name was David Cornwell?
6. Which Sydney-born woman has won four Academy Awards, more than any other Australian?
7. Linch, safety and bobby are all types of what?
8. Where in the human body is the femoral artery located? (Bonus point for naming the human body’s largest artery.)
9. Tim Brooke-Taylor was a member of which comedy trio?
10. The German government last month threw which troubled airline a $15 billion bailout lifeline?
Divine Angel said:
Bubblecar said:
Divine Angel said:
Went for a walk with Lady Scruffington. She enjoyed some hors d’oeuvres of kangaroo poo.Mr Mutant is watching a movie called Bloodshot. Mini Me has gone to bed already. Jellybean is enjoying a game of after-dinner chase-the-tennis-ball.
Is Mini Me still ill?
No, she’s over it now. She did expend a lot of energy throwing a tantrum when i told her to clean her room today though.
Ah.
“The protests have been going on because we’re being told they’re stopping visitations until the end of the year. It’s been tense. There’s been fights everywhere. ”
Mahmood Fazal A visitation ban in NSW prisons during the coronavirus crisis has cut off a key entry point for drugs into these facilities, but with so many inmates struggling with opioid dependence, tensions are rising.
—-
To not see anyone for 9 months…
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Food report. I have defrosted a bit of spanakopita which I’ll pop in the oven to heat through. Presently baking some potatoes and some wedges of a golden beetroot that I just pulled. I do like the golden beetroot. I just noticed when I prepared that one that the juice is yellow. Very yellow.
Looks good.
I’m just having a bumper serve of broccoli with a bit of butter, lemon pepper, peas and a couple eggs.
I should cook something. I have a lot of things I could cook. I even have lamb mince.
You could do those stuffed capsicums.
sarahs mum said:
The Quiz
1. Which band, in a 2000 hit song, sang these lyrics: “I know that I can’t take no more/ It ain’t no lie. I want to see you out that door/ Baby bye bye bye”?
2. The Serpentine is a 16-hectare recreational lake in which British city?
3. The Māori term hongi refers to what?
4. In which ocean would you find the Walvis Ridge?
5. Which spy novelist’s birth name was David Cornwell?
6. Which Sydney-born woman has won four Academy Awards, more than any other Australian?
7. Linch, safety and bobby are all types of what?
8. Where in the human body is the femoral artery located? (Bonus point for naming the human body’s largest artery.)
9. Tim Brooke-Taylor was a member of which comedy trio?
10. The German government last month threw which troubled airline a $15 billion bailout lifeline?
As if anyone here is gonna know the answer to #1 is N*Sync.
And who doesn’t know the femoral arty is in the leg, and the aorta is the largest artery?

sarahs mum said:
The Quiz
1. Which band, in a 2000 hit song, sang these lyrics: “I know that I can’t take no more/ It ain’t no lie. I want to see you out that door/ Baby bye bye bye”?
2. The Serpentine is a 16-hectare recreational lake in which British city?
3. The Māori term hongi refers to what?
4. In which ocean would you find the Walvis Ridge?
5. Which spy novelist’s birth name was David Cornwell?
6. Which Sydney-born woman has won four Academy Awards, more than any other Australian?
7. Linch, safety and bobby are all types of what?
8. Where in the human body is the femoral artery located? (Bonus point for naming the human body’s largest artery.)
9. Tim Brooke-Taylor was a member of which comedy trio?
10. The German government last month threw which troubled airline a $15 billion bailout lifeline?
1 BSB
2 London
3 nose to nose
4 dunno
5 dunno
6 dunno
7 pin
8 leg, aorta
9 goodies
10 lufthansa at a guess?
Is hongi the same as hungi/hangi, where food is cooked in a fire pit underground?
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:Looks good.
I’m just having a bumper serve of broccoli with a bit of butter, lemon pepper, peas and a couple eggs.
I should cook something. I have a lot of things I could cook. I even have lamb mince.
You could do those stuffed capsicums.
I gave sarah most of the capsicums. But I do have tomatoes and cucumber and yoghurt and honey and lemon. Still no basmati.
For 6, I’m gonna guess Cate Blanchett. Or the costume designer married to Baz Lurhman.
Divine Angel said:
Is hongi the same as hungi/hangi, where food is cooked in a fire pit underground?
NO. Dv is right. It is nose rubbing.
Here it is
dv said:
![]()
Here it is
It isn’t a bad mural.
The Quiz
1. Which band, in a 2000 hit song, sang these lyrics: “I know that I can’t take no more/ It ain’t no lie. I want to see you out that door/ Baby bye bye bye”?
Pass.
2. The Serpentine is a 16-hectare recreational lake in which British city?
London.
3. The Maori term hongi refers to what?
Nose-rubbing as a greeting.
4. In which ocean would you find the Walvis Ridge?
Atlantic.
5. Which spy novelist’s birth name was David Cornwell?
Probably John le Carre, since he’s the only spy novelist I can think of :)
6. Which Sydney-born woman has won four Academy Awards, more than any other Australian?
Dunno, maybe Nicole Kidman.
7. Linch, safety and bobby are all types of what?
Pins.
8. Where in the human body is the femoral artery located? (Bonus point for naming the human body’s largest artery.)
Thigh.
9. Tim Brooke-Taylor was a member of which comedy trio?
The Goodies.
10. The German government last month threw which troubled airline a $15 billion bailout lifeline?
Lufthansa.
sarahs mum said:
The Quiz
1. Which band, in a 2000 hit song, sang these lyrics: “I know that I can’t take no more/ It ain’t no lie. I want to see you out that door/ Baby bye bye bye”?
2. The Serpentine is a 16-hectare recreational lake in which British city?
3. The Māori term hongi refers to what?
4. In which ocean would you find the Walvis Ridge?
5. Which spy novelist’s birth name was David Cornwell?
6. Which Sydney-born woman has won four Academy Awards, more than any other Australian?
7. Linch, safety and bobby are all types of what?
8. Where in the human body is the femoral artery located? (Bonus point for naming the human body’s largest artery.)
9. Tim Brooke-Taylor was a member of which comedy trio?
10. The German government last month threw which troubled airline a $15 billion bailout lifeline?
1.
2. Londium
3. The nose kissing thing
4. guess – Pacific
5. guess – Ian FLeming
6. guess – Nicole Kidman
7. pin
8. upper leg
9. The Goodies
10. guess – Lufthansa.
Divine Angel said:
And who doesn’t know the femoral arty is in the leg, and the aorta is the largest artery?
Yeah, aorta know.
dv said:
![]()
Here it is
I’ve never even seen that show.
party_pants said:
2. Londium
Londinium.
a.k.a Swindle-Upon-Thames.
dv said:
![]()
Here it is
Good to see those cars socially distancing.
Michael V said:
dv said:
![]()
Here it is
Good to see those cars socially distancing.
urinal étiquette
1 Nsync
2 London.
3 A traditional Māori greeting, expressed by touching noses.
4(South) Atlantic Ocean.
5 John le Carré.
6 Catherine Martin. (I should have heard of her?)
7 Pins
8 The thigh. (Bonus point: The aorta.)
9 The Goodies.
10 Lufthansa.
sarahs mum said:
6 Catherine Martin. (I should have heard of her?)
Sure.
I hadn’t, but that’s no excuse.
sarahs mum said:
1 Nsync
2 London.
3 A traditional Māori greeting, expressed by touching noses.
4(South) Atlantic Ocean.
5 John le Carré.
6 Catherine Martin. (I should have heard of her?)
7 Pins
8 The thigh. (Bonus point: The aorta.)
9 The Goodies.
10 Lufthansa.
I’m giving myself 6/10. I am as hopeless at your quizzes as I am at the ABC one.
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
![]()
Here it is
I’ve never even seen that show.
Shock
FYI Nicole Kidman was born in Hawaii.
sarahs mum said:
1 Nsync
2 London.
3 A traditional Māori greeting, expressed by touching noses.
4(South) Atlantic Ocean.
5 John le Carré.
6 Catherine Martin. (I should have heard of her?)
7 Pins
8 The thigh. (Bonus point: The aorta.)
9 The Goodies.
10 Lufthansa.
ah well, I got 7
The Rev Dodgson said:
sarahs mum said:6 Catherine Martin. (I should have heard of her?)
Sure.
I hadn’t, but that’s no excuse.
Anyhoo, we’re having meatball soup for dinner and Mr Mutant is choosing a movie for us to watch.
Divine Angel said:
FYI Nicole Kidman was born in Hawaii.
I can feel my life changing already….
Divine Angel said:
FYI Nicole Kidman was born in Hawaii.
And her real names is Kailani Kameāloha.
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
1 Nsync
2 London.
3 A traditional Māori greeting, expressed by touching noses.
4(South) Atlantic Ocean.
5 John le Carré.
6 Catherine Martin. (I should have heard of her?)
7 Pins
8 The thigh. (Bonus point: The aorta.)
9 The Goodies.
10 Lufthansa.
I’m giving myself 6/10. I am as hopeless at your quizzes as I am at the ABC one.
Saturday Paper.So much I would like to read today.
i’m still here in case anyone was wondering.
Bogsnorkler said:
i’m still here in case anyone was wondering.
Thanks. I was wondering about opening the case to see what was inside.
party_pants said:
Bogsnorkler said:
i’m still here in case anyone was wondering.
Thanks. I was wondering about opening the case to see what was inside.
open the box. take the money. open the box…
Bogsnorkler said:
i’m still here in case anyone was wondering.
I’m watching the dog show on the teev and having a bit of a cry.
sarahs mum said:
Bogsnorkler said:
i’m still here in case anyone was wondering.
I’m watching the dog show on the teev and having a bit of a cry.
The Barely-Domesticated Wolf was very much like Kimmie the Border Collie when we first met him and brought him home.
He’s now convinced that he owns the place , and us, and runs us according to his schedule.
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
Bogsnorkler said:
i’m still here in case anyone was wondering.
I’m watching the dog show on the teev and having a bit of a cry.
The Barely-Domesticated Wolf was very much like Kimmie the Border Collie when we first met him and brought him home.
He’s now convinced that he owns the place , and us, and runs us according to his schedule.
Kimmie reminded me of an otter
sarahs mum said:
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:I’m watching the dog show on the teev and having a bit of a cry.
The Barely-Domesticated Wolf was very much like Kimmie the Border Collie when we first met him and brought him home.
He’s now convinced that he owns the place , and us, and runs us according to his schedule.
Kimmie reminded me of an otter
I hope she got a good home. All she wants to do is to please her ‘owner’.
9m ago 11:38
Reports coming in of police spraying protesters with pepper spray after a rally in Sydney.
One journalist who was at the scene in Central station filmed the incident, showing what looks like a man being arrested and some physical altercations between police and protesters, while people chant “black lives matter” in the background.
coffee and toast landed
lady wanted to know what that noisy bird was distant, wanted to name it, so told her it was a kespian ruttlesack, she wondered initially if I was making that up but I reassured her a few times by repeating it as if I was certain, she not long after had her phone out and started searching that, closest thing apparently was lesbian rutt in the suggestions
transition said:
coffee and toast landedlady wanted to know what that noisy bird was distant, wanted to name it, so told her it was a kespian ruttlesack, she wondered initially if I was making that up but I reassured her a few times by repeating it as if I was certain, she not long after had her phone out and started searching that, closest thing apparently was lesbian rutt in the suggestions
perfect, I searched it too
there are no results for kespian ruttlesack
sarahs mum said:
9m ago 11:38
Reports coming in of police spraying protesters with pepper spray after a rally in Sydney.
One journalist who was at the scene in Central station filmed the incident, showing what looks like a man being arrested and some physical altercations between police and protesters, while people chant “black lives matter” in the background.
don’t worry they won’t be fined / prosecuted, nobody said they wouldn’t be spicy
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-06/melbourne-black-lives-matter-protest-organisers-fined-by-police/12329514
I wouldn’t be surprised if at least some of those fines go to court. From the stuff shown on the ABC news last night, full and detailed briefings were to be given by the organizers to participants, including information about social distancing and groups. If that was what was actually done, it may be debateable if the organizers have themselves breached the corona virus guidelines.
sarahs mum said:
2. The word Economy, like a great many others, has, in its application, been very much abused. It is generally used as if it meant parsimony, stinginess, or niggardliness; and, at best, merely the refraining from expending money. Hence misers and close-fisted men disguise their propensity and conduct under the name of economy; whereas the most liberal disposition, a disposition precisely the contrary of that of the miser, is perfectly consistent with economy.3. Economy means management, and nothing more; and it is generally applied to the affairs of a house and family, which affairs are an object of the greatest importance, whether as relating to individuals or to a nation. A nation is made powerful and to be honoured in the world, not so much by the number of its people as by the ability and character of that people; and the ability and character of a people depend, in a great measure, upon the economy of the several families, which, all taken together, make up the nation. There never yet was, and never will be, a nation permanently great, consisting, for the greater part, of wretched and miserable families.
4. In every view of the matter, therefore, it is desirable; that the families of which a nation consists should be happily off: and as this depends, in a great degree, upon the management of their concerns, the present work is intended to convey, to the families of the labouring classes in particular, such information as I think may be useful with regard to that management.
5. I lay it down as a maxim, that for a family to be happy, they must be well supplied with food and raiment. It is a sorry effort that people make to persuade others, or to persuade themselves, that they can be happy in a state of want of the necessaries of life. The doctrines which fanaticism preaches, and which teach men to be content with poverty, have a very pernicious tendency, and are calculated to favour tyrants by giving them passive slaves. To live well, to enjoy all things that make life pleasant, is the right of every man who constantly uses his strength judiciously and lawfully. It is to blaspheme God to suppose, that he created man to be miserable, to hunger, thirst, and perish with cold, in the midst of that abundance which is the fruit of their own labour. Instead, therefore, of applauding “happy poverty,” which applause is so much the fashion of the present day, I despise the man that is poor and contented; for, such content is a certain proof of a base disposition, a disposition which is the enemy of all industry, all exertion, all love of independence.
-Cobbett
That’s one smart dog you have.
Witty Rejoinder said:
sarahs mum said:
2. The word Economy, like a great many others, has, in its application, been very much abused. It is generally used as if it meant parsimony, stinginess, or niggardliness; and, at best, merely the refraining from expending money. Hence misers and close-fisted men disguise their propensity and conduct under the name of economy; whereas the most liberal disposition, a disposition precisely the contrary of that of the miser, is perfectly consistent with economy.3. Economy means management, and nothing more; and it is generally applied to the affairs of a house and family, which affairs are an object of the greatest importance, whether as relating to individuals or to a nation. A nation is made powerful and to be honoured in the world, not so much by the number of its people as by the ability and character of that people; and the ability and character of a people depend, in a great measure, upon the economy of the several families, which, all taken together, make up the nation. There never yet was, and never will be, a nation permanently great, consisting, for the greater part, of wretched and miserable families.
4. In every view of the matter, therefore, it is desirable; that the families of which a nation consists should be happily off: and as this depends, in a great degree, upon the management of their concerns, the present work is intended to convey, to the families of the labouring classes in particular, such information as I think may be useful with regard to that management.
5. I lay it down as a maxim, that for a family to be happy, they must be well supplied with food and raiment. It is a sorry effort that people make to persuade others, or to persuade themselves, that they can be happy in a state of want of the necessaries of life. The doctrines which fanaticism preaches, and which teach men to be content with poverty, have a very pernicious tendency, and are calculated to favour tyrants by giving them passive slaves. To live well, to enjoy all things that make life pleasant, is the right of every man who constantly uses his strength judiciously and lawfully. It is to blaspheme God to suppose, that he created man to be miserable, to hunger, thirst, and perish with cold, in the midst of that abundance which is the fruit of their own labour. Instead, therefore, of applauding “happy poverty,” which applause is so much the fashion of the present day, I despise the man that is poor and contented; for, such content is a certain proof of a base disposition, a disposition which is the enemy of all industry, all exertion, all love of independence.
-Cobbett
That’s one smart dog you have.
Yeah.
sarahs mum said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
sarahs mum said:
2. The word Economy, like a great many others, has, in its application, been very much abused. It is generally used as if it meant parsimony, stinginess, or niggardliness; and, at best, merely the refraining from expending money. Hence misers and close-fisted men disguise their propensity and conduct under the name of economy; whereas the most liberal disposition, a disposition precisely the contrary of that of the miser, is perfectly consistent with economy.3. Economy means management, and nothing more; and it is generally applied to the affairs of a house and family, which affairs are an object of the greatest importance, whether as relating to individuals or to a nation. A nation is made powerful and to be honoured in the world, not so much by the number of its people as by the ability and character of that people; and the ability and character of a people depend, in a great measure, upon the economy of the several families, which, all taken together, make up the nation. There never yet was, and never will be, a nation permanently great, consisting, for the greater part, of wretched and miserable families.
4. In every view of the matter, therefore, it is desirable; that the families of which a nation consists should be happily off: and as this depends, in a great degree, upon the management of their concerns, the present work is intended to convey, to the families of the labouring classes in particular, such information as I think may be useful with regard to that management.
5. I lay it down as a maxim, that for a family to be happy, they must be well supplied with food and raiment. It is a sorry effort that people make to persuade others, or to persuade themselves, that they can be happy in a state of want of the necessaries of life. The doctrines which fanaticism preaches, and which teach men to be content with poverty, have a very pernicious tendency, and are calculated to favour tyrants by giving them passive slaves. To live well, to enjoy all things that make life pleasant, is the right of every man who constantly uses his strength judiciously and lawfully. It is to blaspheme God to suppose, that he created man to be miserable, to hunger, thirst, and perish with cold, in the midst of that abundance which is the fruit of their own labour. Instead, therefore, of applauding “happy poverty,” which applause is so much the fashion of the present day, I despise the man that is poor and contented; for, such content is a certain proof of a base disposition, a disposition which is the enemy of all industry, all exertion, all love of independence.
-Cobbett
That’s one smart dog you have.
Yeah.
Oh wait… is your dog Corbett?
Witty Rejoinder said:
sarahs mum said:
Witty Rejoinder said:That’s one smart dog you have.
Yeah.
Oh wait… is your dog Corbett?
Cobbett is named after Cobbett. And last night the guests were asking about Cobbett. And so we chatted about the Cottage Economy and chapter one, Beer.
I could be a better person if I stopped drinking tea and took up drinking beer. It’s not going to happen.
sarahs mum said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
sarahs mum said:Yeah.
Oh wait… is your dog Corbett?
Cobbett is named after Cobbett. And last night the guests were asking about Cobbett. And so we chatted about the Cottage Economy and chapter one, Beer.
I could be a better person if I stopped drinking tea and took up drinking beer. It’s not going to happen.
Goodo.
Lady gave me this today in a bag. She was in a hurry to get to town and texted me just as I turned up at her door to say she was leaving. I called her back and said I’m at your front gate. I didn’t look because I was also due to look at a ggrandfather clock a couple of blocks along in the same street. When I got it out of the bag I thought wow. Haven’t seen many such decorative clocks. Funny thing is, it also smelt of flowers. Expensive perfume she uses.
roughbarked said:
Lady gave me this today in a bag. She was in a hurry to get to town and texted me just as I turned up at her door to say she was leaving. I called her back and said I’m at your front gate. I didn’t look because I was also due to look at a ggrandfather clock a couple of blocks along in the same street. When I got it out of the bag I thought wow. Haven’t seen many such decorative clocks. Funny thing is, it also smelt of flowers. Expensive perfume she uses.
Oh good, you’ve always wanted a clock
dv said:
roughbarked said:
Lady gave me this today in a bag. She was in a hurry to get to town and texted me just as I turned up at her door to say she was leaving. I called her back and said I’m at your front gate. I didn’t look because I was also due to look at a ggrandfather clock a couple of blocks along in the same street. When I got it out of the bag I thought wow. Haven’t seen many such decorative clocks. Funny thing is, it also smelt of flowers. Expensive perfume she uses.
Oh good, you’ve always wanted a clock
Nah, she’s gettin back. I’ve got a farken shed full of the barstewards.
roughbarked said:
Lady gave me this today in a bag. She was in a hurry to get to town and texted me just as I turned up at her door to say she was leaving. I called her back and said I’m at your front gate. I didn’t look because I was also due to look at a ggrandfather clock a couple of blocks along in the same street. When I got it out of the bag I thought wow. Haven’t seen many such decorative clocks. Funny thing is, it also smelt of flowers. Expensive perfume she uses.
one of my bedrooms is painted that green colour.
dv said:
There’s a qikipedia? Nice. Ah, I see, no, it’s a twitter account.
“One thousand and one knights” – a story of the third crusade.
“Knights in white satin” – are they gay or just metrosexual?
I just noticed something. The label on the “s” key on my keyboard has completely worn off. But just now glancing down I saw it clearly. I must be seeing from memory.
mollwollfumble said:
dv said:
There’s a qikipedia? Nice. Ah, I see, no, it’s a twitter account.
“One thousand and one knights” – a story of the third crusade.
“Knights in white satin” – are they gay or just metrosexual?
I just noticed something. The label on the “s” key on my keyboard has completely worn off. But just now glancing down I saw it clearly. I must be seeing from memory.
I’ve got boxfulls of keyboards with letters worn off.
dv said:
we find the doubling of unaffiliated rate even more inspiring
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 5 degrees and dark. Our forecast today is for 11 and partly cloudy.
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 5 degrees and dark. Our forecast today is for 11 and partly cloudy.
ABC News:
‘Four teenagers have been killed in a single-vehicle crash in Townsville in North Queensland.
Police say emergency crews were called to the corner of Duckworth Street and Bayswater Road at Garbutt just before 4:30am today.
A Queensland Ambulance spokeswoman said one male teenager was taken to Townsville University Hospital in a stable condition with minor injuries.
The ABC understands the vehicle involved in the crash was stolen.’
If only young people could learn lesson. If only i’d learnt that one lesson.
That is, it’s not like it is in the moofies, kids. It’s never like it is in the moofies.
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
we find the doubling of unaffiliated rate even more inspiring
Maybe, but the move of “non-white” “Christians” to the Republican party seems unfortunate.
Back from the days when I used to read the Bible, I vaguely remember the top bod said something along the lines that it is easier for an elephant to squeeze through Donald Trumps arse-hole, than it is for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.
Presumably they are using a different version in the USA these days.
Been asked polite to make breakfast, right now. Later…
Michael V said:
Been asked polite to make breakfast, right now. Later…
Best not refuse then.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:
Been asked polite to make breakfast, right now. Later…
Best not refuse then.
Too nice a day to spend in the doghouse.
Just being looking for a technical publication published in 1896 by Oxford University Press, and I find that the only on-line copies (found so far) are for US viewing only.
I mean, WTF?
The Rev Dodgson said:
Just being looking for a technical publication published in 1896 by Oxford University Press, and I find that the only on-line copies (found so far) are for US viewing only.I mean, WTF?
The Rev Dodgson said:
Just being looking for a technical publication published in 1896 by Oxford University Press, and I find that the only on-line copies (found so far) are for US viewing only.I mean, WTF?
Y’all gotta watch out, y’know.
Let them durn furriners see our books, and they’ll be larnin’ all our ways, and then comin’ over here AN’ TAKIN’ OUR JOBS!
Got a link to those US-only copies?
I’ll see if an American VPN IP address gets around it.
captain_spalding said:
Got a link to those US-only copies?I’ll see if an American VPN IP address gets around it.
I found an open copy:
https://archive.org/details/treatiseonanalyt01routiala
The USA only links were at:
http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/webbin/book/lookupname?key=Routh%2c%20Edward%20John%2c%201831%2d1907
Yeah, i connected to a San Francisco server, and i had no trouble opening full copies of the books.
captain_spalding said:
Yeah, i connected to a San Francisco server, and i had no trouble opening full copies of the books.
Is that easy to do? (I probably should know that :))
The Rev Dodgson said:
captain_spalding said:
Got a link to those US-only copies?I’ll see if an American VPN IP address gets around it.
I found an open copy:
https://archive.org/details/treatiseonanalyt01routialaThe USA only links were at:
http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/webbin/book/lookupname?key=Routh%2c%20Edward%20John%2c%201831%2d1907
The reason for my interest was that the paper says that the first solution of the catenary equation was by Davies Gilbert in the early 19th Century, whereas TATE tells me:
“The mathematical properties of the catenary curve were first studied by Robert Hooke in the 1670s, and its equation was derived by Leibniz, Huygens and Johann Bernoulli in 1691. “
… and Hooke even pointed out that if you took a hanging catenary and inverted it you would get an arch in pure compression, which is also attributed to Gilbert in the paper.
The Rev Dodgson said:
captain_spalding said:
Yeah, i connected to a San Francisco server, and i had no trouble opening full copies of the books.
Is that easy to do? (I probably should know that :))
You have to sign up to a virtual private network (VPN). This allows you to connect to a network of servers around the world, and that makes it look like your IP address is in the country and city of your choice.
It gives an added level of privacy to your online presence. You can select a server located outside the 14 Eyes SIGINT sharing arrangement (e.g. Portugal).
It also helps to circumvent a lot of ‘this content not allowed in your country’ limits, but not all of them. Sometimes the IP address is recognised as belonging to a VPN.
My VPN costs about $40 p.a., and covers three devices being active at any one time.
There are free VPNs around, but i don’t know enough about their reliability.
captain_spalding said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
captain_spalding said:
Yeah, i connected to a San Francisco server, and i had no trouble opening full copies of the books.
Is that easy to do? (I probably should know that :))
You have to sign up to a virtual private network (VPN). This allows you to connect to a network of servers around the world, and that makes it look like your IP address is in the country and city of your choice.
It gives an added level of privacy to your online presence. You can select a server located outside the 14 Eyes SIGINT sharing arrangement (e.g. Portugal).
It also helps to circumvent a lot of ‘this content not allowed in your country’ limits, but not all of them. Sometimes the IP address is recognised as belonging to a VPN.
My VPN costs about $40 p.a., and covers three devices being active at any one time.
There are free VPNs around, but i don’t know enough about their reliability.
Thanks for that, exactly what I wanted to know :)
The Rev Dodgson said:
captain_spalding said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Is that easy to do? (I probably should know that :))
You have to sign up to a virtual private network (VPN). This allows you to connect to a network of servers around the world, and that makes it look like your IP address is in the country and city of your choice.
It gives an added level of privacy to your online presence. You can select a server located outside the 14 Eyes SIGINT sharing arrangement (e.g. Portugal).
It also helps to circumvent a lot of ‘this content not allowed in your country’ limits, but not all of them. Sometimes the IP address is recognised as belonging to a VPN.
My VPN costs about $40 p.a., and covers three devices being active at any one time.
There are free VPNs around, but i don’t know enough about their reliability.
Thanks for that, exactly what I wanted to know :)
Opera comes with a free VPN.
https://www.opera.com/features/free-vpn
Bogsnorkler said:
Opera comes with a free VPN.
https://www.opera.com/features/free-vpn
I should look at that.
Even if it doesn’t have all the features you might want, it could be a good introduction to VPNs.
Bogsnorkler said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
captain_spalding said:You have to sign up to a virtual private network (VPN). This allows you to connect to a network of servers around the world, and that makes it look like your IP address is in the country and city of your choice.
It gives an added level of privacy to your online presence. You can select a server located outside the 14 Eyes SIGINT sharing arrangement (e.g. Portugal).
It also helps to circumvent a lot of ‘this content not allowed in your country’ limits, but not all of them. Sometimes the IP address is recognised as belonging to a VPN.
My VPN costs about $40 p.a., and covers three devices being active at any one time.
There are free VPNs around, but i don’t know enough about their reliability.
Thanks for that, exactly what I wanted to know :)
Opera comes with a free VPN.
https://www.opera.com/features/free-vpn
Thanks for that.
Finally, a good reason to use something other that IE/Edge
maybe :)
The Rev Dodgson said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
captain_spalding said:
Got a link to those US-only copies?I’ll see if an American VPN IP address gets around it.
I found an open copy:
https://archive.org/details/treatiseonanalyt01routialaThe USA only links were at:
http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/webbin/book/lookupname?key=Routh%2c%20Edward%20John%2c%201831%2d1907The reason for my interest was that the paper says that the first solution of the catenary equation was by Davies Gilbert in the early 19th Century, whereas TATE tells me:
“The mathematical properties of the catenary curve were first studied by Robert Hooke in the 1670s, and its equation was derived by Leibniz, Huygens and Johann Bernoulli in 1691. “
… and Hooke even pointed out that if you took a hanging catenary and inverted it you would get an arch in pure compression, which is also attributed to Gilbert in the paper.
I don’t recall reading of Gilbert before. It seems he did a lot of good stuff in the promotion of science, but he also said stuff like:
““However specious in theory the project might be of giving education to the labouring classes of the poor, it would, in effect, be found to be prejudicial to their morals and happiness; it would teach them to despise their lot in life, instead of making them good servants in agriculture and other laborious employments to which their rank in society had destined them; instead of teaching them the virtue of subordination, it would render them factious and refractory, as is evident in the manufacturing counties; it would enable them to read seditious pamphlets, vicious books and publications against Christianity; it would render them insolent to their superiors; and, in a few years, the result would be that the legislature would find it necessary to direct the strong arm of power towards them and to furnish the executive magistrates with more vigorous powers than are now in force. Besides, if this Bill were to pass into law, it would go to burthen the country with a most enormous and incalculable expense, and to load the industrious orders with still heavier imposts.”
The Rev Dodgson said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
captain_spalding said:
Got a link to those US-only copies?I’ll see if an American VPN IP address gets around it.
I found an open copy:
https://archive.org/details/treatiseonanalyt01routialaThe USA only links were at:
http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/webbin/book/lookupname?key=Routh%2c%20Edward%20John%2c%201831%2d1907The reason for my interest was that the paper says that the first solution of the catenary equation was by Davies Gilbert in the early 19th Century, whereas TATE tells me:
“The mathematical properties of the catenary curve were first studied by Robert Hooke in the 1670s, and its equation was derived by Leibniz, Huygens and Johann Bernoulli in 1691. “
… and Hooke even pointed out that if you took a hanging catenary and inverted it you would get an arch in pure compression, which is also attributed to Gilbert in the paper.
Many researchers don’t really read the prior literature before embarking on their personal quest…
;)
captain_spalding said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:
Been asked polite to make breakfast, right now. Later…
Best not refuse then.
Too nice a day to spend in the doghouse.
Quite.
Morning Pilgrims, peace be with you.
buffy said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
The Rev Dodgson said:I found an open copy:
https://archive.org/details/treatiseonanalyt01routialaThe USA only links were at:
http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/webbin/book/lookupname?key=Routh%2c%20Edward%20John%2c%201831%2d1907The reason for my interest was that the paper says that the first solution of the catenary equation was by Davies Gilbert in the early 19th Century, whereas TATE tells me:
“The mathematical properties of the catenary curve were first studied by Robert Hooke in the 1670s, and its equation was derived by Leibniz, Huygens and Johann Bernoulli in 1691. “
… and Hooke even pointed out that if you took a hanging catenary and inverted it you would get an arch in pure compression, which is also attributed to Gilbert in the paper.
Many researchers don’t really read the prior literature before embarking on their personal quest…
;)
Indeed.
Stephen J Gould’s “fox-terrier fallacy” comes to mind.

The Rev Dodgson said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
The Rev Dodgson said:I found an open copy:
https://archive.org/details/treatiseonanalyt01routialaThe USA only links were at:
http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/webbin/book/lookupname?key=Routh%2c%20Edward%20John%2c%201831%2d1907The reason for my interest was that the paper says that the first solution of the catenary equation was by Davies Gilbert in the early 19th Century, whereas TATE tells me:
“The mathematical properties of the catenary curve were first studied by Robert Hooke in the 1670s, and its equation was derived by Leibniz, Huygens and Johann Bernoulli in 1691. “
… and Hooke even pointed out that if you took a hanging catenary and inverted it you would get an arch in pure compression, which is also attributed to Gilbert in the paper.
I don’t recall reading of Gilbert before. It seems he did a lot of good stuff in the promotion of science, but he also said stuff like:
““However specious in theory the project might be of giving education to the labouring classes of the poor, it would, in effect, be found to be prejudicial to their morals and happiness; it would teach them to despise their lot in life, instead of making them good servants in agriculture and other laborious employments to which their rank in society had destined them; instead of teaching them the virtue of subordination, it would render them factious and refractory, as is evident in the manufacturing counties; it would enable them to read seditious pamphlets, vicious books and publications against Christianity; it would render them insolent to their superiors; and, in a few years, the result would be that the legislature would find it necessary to direct the strong arm of power towards them and to furnish the executive magistrates with more vigorous powers than are now in force. Besides, if this Bill were to pass into law, it would go to burthen the country with a most enormous and incalculable expense, and to load the industrious orders with still heavier imposts.”
Gosh. Classy…
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning Pilgrims, peace be with you.
And also with you.
The Rev Dodgson said:
buffy said:
The Rev Dodgson said:The reason for my interest was that the paper says that the first solution of the catenary equation was by Davies Gilbert in the early 19th Century, whereas TATE tells me:
“The mathematical properties of the catenary curve were first studied by Robert Hooke in the 1670s, and its equation was derived by Leibniz, Huygens and Johann Bernoulli in 1691. “
… and Hooke even pointed out that if you took a hanging catenary and inverted it you would get an arch in pure compression, which is also attributed to Gilbert in the paper.
Many researchers don’t really read the prior literature before embarking on their personal quest…
;)
Indeed.
Stephen J Gould’s “fox-terrier fallacy” comes to mind.
Very little or no fox in them.
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning Pilgrims, peace be with you.
And also with you.

Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
The Rev Dodgson said:The reason for my interest was that the paper says that the first solution of the catenary equation was by Davies Gilbert in the early 19th Century, whereas TATE tells me:
“The mathematical properties of the catenary curve were first studied by Robert Hooke in the 1670s, and its equation was derived by Leibniz, Huygens and Johann Bernoulli in 1691. “
… and Hooke even pointed out that if you took a hanging catenary and inverted it you would get an arch in pure compression, which is also attributed to Gilbert in the paper.
I don’t recall reading of Gilbert before. It seems he did a lot of good stuff in the promotion of science, but he also said stuff like:
““However specious in theory the project might be of giving education to the labouring classes of the poor, it would, in effect, be found to be prejudicial to their morals and happiness; it would teach them to despise their lot in life, instead of making them good servants in agriculture and other laborious employments to which their rank in society had destined them; instead of teaching them the virtue of subordination, it would render them factious and refractory, as is evident in the manufacturing counties; it would enable them to read seditious pamphlets, vicious books and publications against Christianity; it would render them insolent to their superiors; and, in a few years, the result would be that the legislature would find it necessary to direct the strong arm of power towards them and to furnish the executive magistrates with more vigorous powers than are now in force. Besides, if this Bill were to pass into law, it would go to burthen the country with a most enormous and incalculable expense, and to load the industrious orders with still heavier imposts.”
Gosh. Classy…
If Trump had a reading list, I’m sure that guy would be on it.
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
The Rev Dodgson said:The reason for my interest was that the paper says that the first solution of the catenary equation was by Davies Gilbert in the early 19th Century, whereas TATE tells me:
“The mathematical properties of the catenary curve were first studied by Robert Hooke in the 1670s, and its equation was derived by Leibniz, Huygens and Johann Bernoulli in 1691. “
… and Hooke even pointed out that if you took a hanging catenary and inverted it you would get an arch in pure compression, which is also attributed to Gilbert in the paper.
I don’t recall reading of Gilbert before. It seems he did a lot of good stuff in the promotion of science, but he also said stuff like:
““However specious in theory the project might be of giving education to the labouring classes of the poor, it would, in effect, be found to be prejudicial to their morals and happiness; it would teach them to despise their lot in life, instead of making them good servants in agriculture and other laborious employments to which their rank in society had destined them; instead of teaching them the virtue of subordination, it would render them factious and refractory, as is evident in the manufacturing counties; it would enable them to read seditious pamphlets, vicious books and publications against Christianity; it would render them insolent to their superiors; and, in a few years, the result would be that the legislature would find it necessary to direct the strong arm of power towards them and to furnish the executive magistrates with more vigorous powers than are now in force. Besides, if this Bill were to pass into law, it would go to burthen the country with a most enormous and incalculable expense, and to load the industrious orders with still heavier imposts.”
Gosh. Classy…
Luckily views like this are no longer held…
The Rev Dodgson said:
buffy said:
The Rev Dodgson said:The reason for my interest was that the paper says that the first solution of the catenary equation was by Davies Gilbert in the early 19th Century, whereas TATE tells me:
“The mathematical properties of the catenary curve were first studied by Robert Hooke in the 1670s, and its equation was derived by Leibniz, Huygens and Johann Bernoulli in 1691. “
… and Hooke even pointed out that if you took a hanging catenary and inverted it you would get an arch in pure compression, which is also attributed to Gilbert in the paper.
Many researchers don’t really read the prior literature before embarking on their personal quest…
;)
Indeed.
Stephen J Gould’s “fox-terrier fallacy” comes to mind.
Witty Rejoinder said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
buffy said:Many researchers don’t really read the prior literature before embarking on their personal quest…
;)
Indeed.
Stephen J Gould’s “fox-terrier fallacy” comes to mind.
Google is no help. What fallacy is this?
the fox terrier fallacy.
Bogsnorkler said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Indeed.
Stephen J Gould’s “fox-terrier fallacy” comes to mind.
Google is no help. What fallacy is this?the fox terrier fallacy.
Stephen Jay Gould’s “Fox-terrier fallacy” where an erroneous statement becomes accepted through repeated copying.
Witty Rejoinder said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
buffy said:Many researchers don’t really read the prior literature before embarking on their personal quest…
;)
Indeed.
Stephen J Gould’s “fox-terrier fallacy” comes to mind.
Google is no help. What fallacy is this?
I got a couple of results but the site appears dodgy as fuck. I’ll post the link anyway
https://newtonexcelbach.com/2009/06/16/elegant-proofs-4-the-optimum-shape-of-an-arch/
Bogsnorkler said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Google is no help. What fallacy is this?
the fox terrier fallacy.
Stephen Jay Gould’s “Fox-terrier fallacy” where an erroneous statement becomes accepted through repeated copying.
Joseph Goebbels pretty much perfected that.
Stand down. Found this:
https://unbound.com/books/why-did-the-policeman-cross-the-road/updates/the-case-of-the-creeping-fox-terrier-clone
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning Pilgrims, peace be with you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uc80G6Yzu04
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-07/four-teenagers-killed-in-stolen-car-crash-in-townsville/12330172
Sad, but very Darwin Awards…
Michael V said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-07/four-teenagers-killed-in-stolen-car-crash-in-townsville/12330172Sad, but very Darwin Awards…
Bogsnorkler said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Indeed.
Stephen J Gould’s “fox-terrier fallacy” comes to mind.
Google is no help. What fallacy is this?I got a couple of results but the site appears dodgy as fuck. I’ll post the link anyway
https://newtonexcelbach.com/2009/06/16/elegant-proofs-4-the-optimum-shape-of-an-arch/
You are right to be wary of these random engineers setting themselves up as authorities on matters historical, but this one actually seems to be pretty good.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Google is no help. What fallacy is this?
I got a couple of results but the site appears dodgy as fuck. I’ll post the link anyway
https://newtonexcelbach.com/2009/06/16/elegant-proofs-4-the-optimum-shape-of-an-arch/
You are right to be wary of these random engineers setting themselves up as authorities on matters historical, but this one actually seems to be pretty good.
I also thought it a rather good circular argument.
Bogsnorkler said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Google is no help. What fallacy is this?
the fox terrier fallacy.
Stephen Jay Gould’s “Fox-terrier fallacy” where an erroneous statement becomes accepted through repeated copying.
Based on the oft-repeated statement that the early ancestors of the horse were the size of a fox-terrier, when they were actually much larger.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eohippus
The fact that the first (and almost only) hit on an exact search for “fox-terrier fallacy” is my blog seems to me quite extraordinary.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Bogsnorkler said:the fox terrier fallacy.
Stephen Jay Gould’s “Fox-terrier fallacy” where an erroneous statement becomes accepted through repeated copying.
Based on the oft-repeated statement that the early ancestors of the horse were the size of a fox-terrier, when they were actually much larger.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eohippus
The fact that the first (and almost only) hit on an exact search for “fox-terrier fallacy” is my blog seems to me quite extraordinary.
You have to remember that in the early Eocene period, fox-terriers were much larger than they are today.
captain_spalding said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bogsnorkler said:Stephen Jay Gould’s “Fox-terrier fallacy” where an erroneous statement becomes accepted through repeated copying.
Based on the oft-repeated statement that the early ancestors of the horse were the size of a fox-terrier, when they were actually much larger.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eohippus
The fact that the first (and almost only) hit on an exact search for “fox-terrier fallacy” is my blog seems to me quite extraordinary.
You have to remember that in the early Eocene period, fox-terriers were much larger than they are today.
Apparently increasingly larger.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Bogsnorkler said:the fox terrier fallacy.
Stephen Jay Gould’s “Fox-terrier fallacy” where an erroneous statement becomes accepted through repeated copying.
Based on the oft-repeated statement that the early ancestors of the horse were the size of a fox-terrier, when they were actually much larger.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eohippus
The fact that the first (and almost only) hit on an exact search for “fox-terrier fallacy” is my blog seems to me quite extraordinary.
fox terriers were also larger back then.
captain_spalding said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bogsnorkler said:Stephen Jay Gould’s “Fox-terrier fallacy” where an erroneous statement becomes accepted through repeated copying.
Based on the oft-repeated statement that the early ancestors of the horse were the size of a fox-terrier, when they were actually much larger.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eohippus
The fact that the first (and almost only) hit on an exact search for “fox-terrier fallacy” is my blog seems to me quite extraordinary.
You have to remember that in the early Eocene period, fox-terriers were much larger than they are today.
captain_spalding said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bogsnorkler said:Stephen Jay Gould’s “Fox-terrier fallacy” where an erroneous statement becomes accepted through repeated copying.
Based on the oft-repeated statement that the early ancestors of the horse were the size of a fox-terrier, when they were actually much larger.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eohippus
The fact that the first (and almost only) hit on an exact search for “fox-terrier fallacy” is my blog seems to me quite extraordinary.
You have to remember that in the early Eocene period, fox-terriers were much larger than they are today.
darn.
bit rainy today.
Bogsnorkler said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bogsnorkler said:I got a couple of results but the site appears dodgy as fuck. I’ll post the link anyway
https://newtonexcelbach.com/2009/06/16/elegant-proofs-4-the-optimum-shape-of-an-arch/
You are right to be wary of these random engineers setting themselves up as authorities on matters historical, but this one actually seems to be pretty good.
I also thought it a rather good circular argument.
Or a parabolic argument, anyway.
I’ve just found out there is a thing called piccalilli. I took Auntie Annie a jar of my green tomato relish. She was bemoaning not being able to buy her favourite brand of piccalilli. I had no idea what she was talking about.
buffy said:
I’ve just found out there is a thing called piccalilli. I took Auntie Annie a jar of my green tomato relish. She was bemoaning not being able to buy her favourite brand of piccalilli. I had no idea what she was talking about.
I knew about piccalilli.
buffy said:
I’ve just found out there is a thing called piccalilli. I took Auntie Annie a jar of my green tomato relish. She was bemoaning not being able to buy her favourite brand of piccalilli. I had no idea what she was talking about.
Interesting, the original recipe is still a secret, the Piccalilli family in Tuscany where it was first made also have the rights to the name.
Cold rissole sanger with T sauce, mug of tea (black and one)
Witty Rejoinder said:
Stand down. Found this:https://unbound.com/books/why-did-the-policeman-cross-the-road/updates/the-case-of-the-creeping-fox-terrier-clone
From that piece:
>>But when he actually came to think about it, he realised that he had absolutely no idea what a Fox Terrier looked like, nor how big a Fox Terrier is. Nor did anyone he knew. It wasn’t a common breed<<
Damn common breed around here. Foxies and Foxie crosses all over the place. And Jack Russells too.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Bogsnorkler said:the fox terrier fallacy.
Stephen Jay Gould’s “Fox-terrier fallacy” where an erroneous statement becomes accepted through repeated copying.
Based on the oft-repeated statement that the early ancestors of the horse were the size of a fox-terrier, when they were actually much larger.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eohippus
The fact that the first (and almost only) hit on an exact search for “fox-terrier fallacy” is my blog seems to me quite extraordinary.
Pffffft.
You paid for that position…
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Google is no help. What fallacy is this?
I got a couple of results but the site appears dodgy as fuck. I’ll post the link anyway
https://newtonexcelbach.com/2009/06/16/elegant-proofs-4-the-optimum-shape-of-an-arch/
You are right to be wary of these random engineers setting themselves up as authorities on matters historical, but this one actually seems to be pretty good.
I get nothing but Microsoft adds.
kettle’s boiling, you’re wasting gas
yawn, don’t inhale, i’ve released the uninspiration
buffy said:
I’ve just found out there is a thing called piccalilli. I took Auntie Annie a jar of my green tomato relish. She was bemoaning not being able to buy her favourite brand of piccalilli. I had no idea what she was talking about.
TIL piccalilli.
Ta.
buffy said:
I’ve just found out there is a thing called piccalilli. I took Auntie Annie a jar of my green tomato relish. She was bemoaning not being able to buy her favourite brand of piccalilli. I had no idea what she was talking about.
good grief, sweet or sour?
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
I’ve just found out there is a thing called piccalilli. I took Auntie Annie a jar of my green tomato relish. She was bemoaning not being able to buy her favourite brand of piccalilli. I had no idea what she was talking about.Interesting, the original recipe is still a secret, the Piccalilli family in Tuscany where it was first made also have the rights to the name.
Ref?
It’s not how wiki reports it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piccalilli
Michael V said:
buffy said:
I’ve just found out there is a thing called piccalilli. I took Auntie Annie a jar of my green tomato relish. She was bemoaning not being able to buy her favourite brand of piccalilli. I had no idea what she was talking about.TIL piccalilli.
Ta.
it is yellow. like Lego figures and the simpsons.
Michael V said:
Ref?
his arse…
Truth be told, it’s rather cold. Heading for a max of 10 today, then down to -2 tonight.
But up to a scorching 13 again by next weekend.
Bubblecar said:
Truth be told, it’s rather cold. Heading for a max of 10 today, then down to -2 tonight.But up to a scorching 13 again by next weekend.
Bit dreary here, but windless. At least the ponds are full. I only see the male swan so I presume the female is nesting or there’s been trouble in paradise.
buffy said:
I’ve just found out there is a thing called piccalilli. I took Auntie Annie a jar of my green tomato relish. She was bemoaning not being able to buy her favourite brand of piccalilli. I had no idea what she was talking about.
Bit surprising you’ve never heard of it.
But Australian versions are usually called mustard pickle these days.
She calls out to the man on the street “Sir, can you help me? It’s cold and I’ve nowhere to sleep Is there somewhere you can tell me?”
He walks on, doesn’t look back He pretends he can’t hear her Starts to whistle as he crosses the street Seems embarrassed to be there
Oh, think twice
Bubblecar said:
Truth be told, it’s rather cold. Heading for a max of 10 today, then down to -2 tonight.But up to a scorching 13 again by next weekend.
You’ll need a sun hat or at least a knotted hankie, you’ll need sensible shorts and comfortable sandals and socks.
SCIENCE said:
She calls out to the man on the street “Sir, can you help me? It’s cold and I’ve nowhere to sleep Is there somewhere you can tell me?”He walks on, doesn’t look back He pretends he can’t hear her Starts to whistle as he crosses the street Seems embarrassed to be there
Oh, think twice
it’s another day for human being parasites
I hear when the new Lego store opened people were lined up for blocks…
Talking of food, it’s time for a diet lunch of Brussels sprouts.
Bogsnorkler said:
I hear when the new Lego store opened people were lined up for blocks…
:-)
FWP I know but god damn the new Scrabble app is trash. There’s all kinds of nonsense on screen … prizes and baffling abstract rewards.
dv said:
Bogsnorkler said:
I hear when the new Lego store opened people were lined up for blocks…
:-)
but were police involved
dv said:
SCIENCE said:
She calls out to the man on the street “Sir, can you help me? It’s cold and I’ve nowhere to sleep Is there somewhere you can tell me?”He walks on, doesn’t look back He pretends he can’t hear her Starts to whistle as he crosses the street Seems embarrassed to be there
Oh, think twice
it’s another day for human being parasites
should have started a SSSF band when we had the chance
Bogsnorkler said:
buffy said:
I’ve just found out there is a thing called piccalilli. I took Auntie Annie a jar of my green tomato relish. She was bemoaning not being able to buy her favourite brand of piccalilli. I had no idea what she was talking about.good grief, sweet or sour?
I have no idea. I didn’t let on that I didn’t know what she was talking about. If she’d said cauli and zucchini mustard pickles, I’d have said “Yuck!”. The English must be too far back in my lineage to know about these things. She often comes out with stuff I’ve got no knowledge of.
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
buffy said:
I’ve just found out there is a thing called piccalilli. I took Auntie Annie a jar of my green tomato relish. She was bemoaning not being able to buy her favourite brand of piccalilli. I had no idea what she was talking about.TIL piccalilli.
Ta.
it is yellow. like Lego figures and the simpsons.
That’s the tumeric. It’s a very similar thing to the green tomato relish I made yesterday, but that had only green tomatoes and potent onions in it for the veg.
buffy said:
Bogsnorkler said:
buffy said:
I’ve just found out there is a thing called piccalilli. I took Auntie Annie a jar of my green tomato relish. She was bemoaning not being able to buy her favourite brand of piccalilli. I had no idea what she was talking about.good grief, sweet or sour?
I have no idea. I didn’t let on that I didn’t know what she was talking about. If she’d said cauli and zucchini mustard pickles, I’d have said “Yuck!”. The English must be too far back in my lineage to know about these things. She often comes out with stuff I’ve got no knowledge of.
Caulifower is good in mustard pickles. And I have put cauliflower into green tomato pickles before just cause I like it.
Bogsnorkler said:
I hear when the new Lego store opened people were lined up for blocks…
Ha!
You can get jar sized packaging from Australia Post these days, no need to wrap things yourself now.
SCIENCE said:
She calls out to the man on the street “Sir, can you help me? It’s cold and I’ve nowhere to sleep Is there somewhere you can tell me?”He walks on, doesn’t look back He pretends he can’t hear her Starts to whistle as he crosses the street Seems embarrassed to be there
Oh, think twice
I sang that when I read it…
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:
Bogsnorkler said:good grief, sweet or sour?
I have no idea. I didn’t let on that I didn’t know what she was talking about. If she’d said cauli and zucchini mustard pickles, I’d have said “Yuck!”. The English must be too far back in my lineage to know about these things. She often comes out with stuff I’ve got no knowledge of.
Caulifower is good in mustard pickles. And I have put cauliflower into green tomato pickles before just cause I like it.
No, no, no, no, no! Cauliflower should be lightly steamed, stirfried very quickly or done to death and doused in cheese sauce made with Mersey Valley Original.
:)
I think this might be the latest I’ve ever still been ripening tomatoes inside. The three or four frosts have done in the vines, but I’m picking off what is there and some is still ripening. The glass bowl has some measured out for making a spicy chutney. A couple are over on the other bench because I’m about to make a tomato and avocado salsa for our nachos tonight.
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:I have no idea. I didn’t let on that I didn’t know what she was talking about. If she’d said cauli and zucchini mustard pickles, I’d have said “Yuck!”. The English must be too far back in my lineage to know about these things. She often comes out with stuff I’ve got no knowledge of.
Caulifower is good in mustard pickles. And I have put cauliflower into green tomato pickles before just cause I like it.
No, no, no, no, no! Cauliflower should be lightly steamed, stirfried very quickly or done to death and doused in cheese sauce made with Mersey Valley Original.
:)
I was in Coles today and saw some dairy free cheese.
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:Caulifower is good in mustard pickles. And I have put cauliflower into green tomato pickles before just cause I like it.
No, no, no, no, no! Cauliflower should be lightly steamed, stirfried very quickly or done to death and doused in cheese sauce made with Mersey Valley Original.
:)
I was in Coles today and saw some dairy free cheese.
Just as well I was sitting down when I read that.
Peak Warming Man said:
You can get jar sized packaging from Australia Post these days, no need to wrap things yourself now.
what a time to be alive!
buffy said:
I think this might be the latest I’ve ever still been ripening tomatoes inside. The three or four frosts have done in the vines, but I’m picking off what is there and some is still ripening. The glass bowl has some measured out for making a spicy chutney. A couple are over on the other bench because I’m about to make a tomato and avocado salsa for our nachos tonight.
So it’s just the root vegetables that have been Chernobyled.
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
I think this might be the latest I’ve ever still been ripening tomatoes inside. The three or four frosts have done in the vines, but I’m picking off what is there and some is still ripening. The glass bowl has some measured out for making a spicy chutney. A couple are over on the other bench because I’m about to make a tomato and avocado salsa for our nachos tonight.
So it’s just the root vegetables that have been Chernobyled.
mmm, you may be right. Some King Edwards I grew in 2013…
PermeateFree said:
What a good doggie, protecting that woman from a flying purple disc!
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:No, no, no, no, no! Cauliflower should be lightly steamed, stirfried very quickly or done to death and doused in cheese sauce made with Mersey Valley Original.
:)
I was in Coles today and saw some dairy free cheese.
Just as well I was sitting down when I read that.
What is it, some kind of soy thing?
Wait, is it a dog? Looks like a baby werewolf.
dv said:
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:I was in Coles today and saw some dairy free cheese.
Just as well I was sitting down when I read that.
What is it, some kind of soy thing?
It’s China’s Fault
Ian said:
well fair it is a place you could get away with throwing some shade
Jane Margaret was inside Central Railway Station following Saturday’s largely peaceful protests, when she intervened between black protesters and police “getting quite handsy and aggressive”, she said in a video on Instagram filmed from a hospital bed.“I felt so scared for them, so I pushed forwards on my crutches. I held my hands out to create a shield, and I just said ‘Don’t touch’,” she said in the video.
She said that the protesters were “yelling and passionate”, but were not violent.
“One of the police officers put his hands around my throat… stepped forward with a Mace can and at point blank, 10cm from my face, just sprayed me with Mace.”
She said that she was given first aid at the scene, then eventually went to hospital.
Police said on Sunday morning that a 21-year-old man had been charged with resisting arrest and offensive behaviour following Saturday’s protest.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/woman-on-crutches-says-she-was-maced-in-the-face-two-others-charged-after-sydney-protest-20200607-p55082.html
St Vincent’s hospital has apologised and launched an investigation after a video surfaced of an Indigenous teenager lying unresponsive on the ground outside the emergency department with staff refusing to help.
Khaliyha McKellar, 18, went to the emergency department one week ago complaining of vomiting.
https://7news.com.au/news/vic/st-vincents-hospital-apologises-to-indigenous-teen-c-1083256
sarahs mum said:
St Vincent’s hospital has apologised and launched an investigation after a video surfaced of an Indigenous teenager lying unresponsive on the ground outside the emergency department with staff refusing to help.Khaliyha McKellar, 18, went to the emergency department one week ago complaining of vomiting.
https://7news.com.au/news/vic/st-vincents-hospital-apologises-to-indigenous-teen-c-1083256
Audrey Kearns
on Tuesday
READ and SHARE** VIDEO FOOTAGE OF ASSAULT AND NEGLECT**: On the 31st of May 2020 around 7:45 I came outside St Vincent’s Hospital (I was an inpatient there). A young Indigenous woman vomited and collapsed beside a concrete ledge and passed out on the ground and was completely unresponsive. Myself and two other patients as well as two other visitors came to her aid as she had been thrown out of the emergency department and deemed ‘treated.’
Both myself and my roommate at the hospital had words with security pleading that she be taken back inside as she was laying there with no blanket, no shoes and was possibly at risk of choking on her own vomit. We were simply told it wasn’t their problem and she had been seen by a medical professional.
After roughly an hour of sitting there by her side I began filming because this is a travesty and downright disgusting on behalf of St. Vincent’s and demonstrates a grave lack of duty of care. They wouldn’t let us even give her a blanket (I had to run up to my ward and take mine from my bed). One of the visitors walked half an hour to and back from her car to bring back a blanket for her too as it was absolutely freezing.
Once I began filming three security guards immediately appeared along with an ER nurse. I was assaulted by one of the security guards (he hit my arm suddenly while trying to grab my phone on the second attempt and it’s bruised). He also stamped my foot (I was in slippers and have cuts). I broke no laws filming this publicly and it is in the PUBLIC INTEREST to see how our public health system treats those most vulnerable. The ER nurse tried to say in this video she came out to check this young woman 3 times; this is a complete lie as myself and 4 others never saw her come out until I began filming.
It was about three hours of sitting in the cold waiting with the woman until we saw her taken safely. Left unattended in any other circumstance anyone could have come and dragged her away, right in front of this hospital. The nurse threatened me that this could have ramifications for my treatment at this hospital, and it did indeed.
When I tried to get back into the hospital I was stopped by security and told I was not allowed in until I handed over all my personal details and patient number. The security guard wrote it on a blank piece of paper and leaned in and said if I posted the footage on any social media I would be prosecuted for doing so. They all refused to give me their names.
When I returned finally to my ward my nurse told me I had a ‘black mark’ on my file
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
St Vincent’s hospital has apologised and launched an investigation after a video surfaced of an Indigenous teenager lying unresponsive on the ground outside the emergency department with staff refusing to help.Khaliyha McKellar, 18, went to the emergency department one week ago complaining of vomiting.
https://7news.com.au/news/vic/st-vincents-hospital-apologises-to-indigenous-teen-c-1083256
Audrey Kearns
on TuesdayREAD and SHARE** VIDEO FOOTAGE OF ASSAULT AND NEGLECT**: On the 31st of May 2020 around 7:45 I came outside St Vincent’s Hospital (I was an inpatient there). A young Indigenous woman vomited and collapsed beside a concrete ledge and passed out on the ground and was completely unresponsive. Myself and two other patients as well as two other visitors came to her aid as she had been thrown out of the emergency department and deemed ‘treated.’
Both myself and my roommate at the hospital had words with security pleading that she be taken back inside as she was laying there with no blanket, no shoes and was possibly at risk of choking on her own vomit. We were simply told it wasn’t their problem and she had been seen by a medical professional.
After roughly an hour of sitting there by her side I began filming because this is a travesty and downright disgusting on behalf of St. Vincent’s and demonstrates a grave lack of duty of care. They wouldn’t let us even give her a blanket (I had to run up to my ward and take mine from my bed). One of the visitors walked half an hour to and back from her car to bring back a blanket for her too as it was absolutely freezing.
Once I began filming three security guards immediately appeared along with an ER nurse. I was assaulted by one of the security guards (he hit my arm suddenly while trying to grab my phone on the second attempt and it’s bruised). He also stamped my foot (I was in slippers and have cuts). I broke no laws filming this publicly and it is in the PUBLIC INTEREST to see how our public health system treats those most vulnerable. The ER nurse tried to say in this video she came out to check this young woman 3 times; this is a complete lie as myself and 4 others never saw her come out until I began filming.
It was about three hours of sitting in the cold waiting with the woman until we saw her taken safely. Left unattended in any other circumstance anyone could have come and dragged her away, right in front of this hospital. The nurse threatened me that this could have ramifications for my treatment at this hospital, and it did indeed.
When I tried to get back into the hospital I was stopped by security and told I was not allowed in until I handed over all my personal details and patient number. The security guard wrote it on a blank piece of paper and leaned in and said if I posted the footage on any social media I would be prosecuted for doing so. They all refused to give me their names.
When I returned finally to my ward my nurse told me I had a ‘black mark’ on my file
fkn nurses and doctors
(CNN)A retired Chinese soccer star has openly called for the downfall of China’s ruling Communist Party, in what he says was the “biggest and most correct decision” of his life.
Hao Haidong, 50, was a household name among millions of soccer fans in China in the 1990s and 2000s, and briefly played for English club Sheffield United, but in recent years had been relatively low profile. On Thursday, however, he made a surprise appearance in two videos on the YouTube channel of Guo Wengui, an exiled Chinese tycoon and fierce critic of the Chinese government.
In the first video, Hao read out in Chinese a manifesto of the “Federal State of New China,” a government proposed by Guo as an alternative to the Chinese Communist regime.
“The Communist Party’s totalitarian rule in China has caused horrific atrocities against humanity,” he said, denouncing the party as a “terrorist organization” that has “trampled over democracy, violated the rule of law and dishonored lawful agreements.”
He also accused Beijing of violating its promise to Hong Kong to keep the “one country, two systems” principle unchanged for 50 years, and “brutally cracking down on Hong Kongers defending democracy and freedoms.”
It is extremely rare, if not unprecedented, for a successful Chinese sports star to unleash such a blistering public denunciation of the Communist Party and openly call for its downfall. Dissidents who publicly criticize the party or demand democratic reforms often face lengthy prison sentences.
Hao has been outspoken on social and sports issues, but had not directly challenged the Communist Party until Thursday.
On Friday, China’s Foreign Ministry spokesperson Geng Shuang said: “For such absurd remarks I am not interested in commenting at all.”
YouTube is banned in China, but news of Hao’s extraordinary public comments were fast spreading on Chinese social media by Thursday afternoon, catching many by surprise. His account on Weibo, China’s version of Twitter, appears to have since been deleted.
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/06/asia/chinese-soccer-star-intl-hnk/index.html
dv said:
(CNN)A retired Chinese soccer star has openly called for the downfall of China’s ruling Communist Party, in what he says was the “biggest and most correct decision” of his life.Hao Haidong, 50, was a household name among millions of soccer fans in China in the 1990s and 2000s, and briefly played for English club Sheffield United, but in recent years had been relatively low profile. On Thursday, however, he made a surprise appearance in two videos on the YouTube channel of Guo Wengui, an exiled Chinese tycoon and fierce critic of the Chinese government.
In the first video, Hao read out in Chinese a manifesto of the “Federal State of New China,” a government proposed by Guo as an alternative to the Chinese Communist regime.
“The Communist Party’s totalitarian rule in China has caused horrific atrocities against humanity,” he said, denouncing the party as a “terrorist organization” that has “trampled over democracy, violated the rule of law and dishonored lawful agreements.”
He also accused Beijing of violating its promise to Hong Kong to keep the “one country, two systems” principle unchanged for 50 years, and “brutally cracking down on Hong Kongers defending democracy and freedoms.”It is extremely rare, if not unprecedented, for a successful Chinese sports star to unleash such a blistering public denunciation of the Communist Party and openly call for its downfall. Dissidents who publicly criticize the party or demand democratic reforms often face lengthy prison sentences.
Hao has been outspoken on social and sports issues, but had not directly challenged the Communist Party until Thursday.
On Friday, China’s Foreign Ministry spokesperson Geng Shuang said: “For such absurd remarks I am not interested in commenting at all.”
YouTube is banned in China, but news of Hao’s extraordinary public comments were fast spreading on Chinese social media by Thursday afternoon, catching many by surprise. His account on Weibo, China’s version of Twitter, appears to have since been deleted.https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/06/asia/chinese-soccer-star-intl-hnk/index.html
Join The USSA In Democracy!
dv said:
(CNN)A retired Chinese soccer star has openly called for the downfall of China’s ruling Communist Party, in what he says was the “biggest and most correct decision” of his life.Hao Haidong, 50, was a household name among millions of soccer fans in China in the 1990s and 2000s, and briefly played for English club Sheffield United, but in recent years had been relatively low profile. On Thursday, however, he made a surprise appearance in two videos on the YouTube channel of Guo Wengui, an exiled Chinese tycoon and fierce critic of the Chinese government.
In the first video, Hao read out in Chinese a manifesto of the “Federal State of New China,” a government proposed by Guo as an alternative to the Chinese Communist regime.
“The Communist Party’s totalitarian rule in China has caused horrific atrocities against humanity,” he said, denouncing the party as a “terrorist organization” that has “trampled over democracy, violated the rule of law and dishonored lawful agreements.”
He also accused Beijing of violating its promise to Hong Kong to keep the “one country, two systems” principle unchanged for 50 years, and “brutally cracking down on Hong Kongers defending democracy and freedoms.”It is extremely rare, if not unprecedented, for a successful Chinese sports star to unleash such a blistering public denunciation of the Communist Party and openly call for its downfall. Dissidents who publicly criticize the party or demand democratic reforms often face lengthy prison sentences.
Hao has been outspoken on social and sports issues, but had not directly challenged the Communist Party until Thursday.
On Friday, China’s Foreign Ministry spokesperson Geng Shuang said: “For such absurd remarks I am not interested in commenting at all.”
YouTube is banned in China, but news of Hao’s extraordinary public comments were fast spreading on Chinese social media by Thursday afternoon, catching many by surprise. His account on Weibo, China’s version of Twitter, appears to have since been deleted.https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/06/asia/chinese-soccer-star-intl-hnk/index.html
I wish him good luck with that. I think his comments about the CCP are warranted.
party_pants said:
dv said:
(CNN)A retired Chinese soccer star has openly called for the downfall of China’s ruling Communist Party, in what he says was the “biggest and most correct decision” of his life.Hao Haidong, 50, was a household name among millions of soccer fans in China in the 1990s and 2000s, and briefly played for English club Sheffield United, but in recent years had been relatively low profile. On Thursday, however, he made a surprise appearance in two videos on the YouTube channel of Guo Wengui, an exiled Chinese tycoon and fierce critic of the Chinese government.
In the first video, Hao read out in Chinese a manifesto of the “Federal State of New China,” a government proposed by Guo as an alternative to the Chinese Communist regime.
“The Communist Party’s totalitarian rule in China has caused horrific atrocities against humanity,” he said, denouncing the party as a “terrorist organization” that has “trampled over democracy, violated the rule of law and dishonored lawful agreements.”
He also accused Beijing of violating its promise to Hong Kong to keep the “one country, two systems” principle unchanged for 50 years, and “brutally cracking down on Hong Kongers defending democracy and freedoms.”It is extremely rare, if not unprecedented, for a successful Chinese sports star to unleash such a blistering public denunciation of the Communist Party and openly call for its downfall. Dissidents who publicly criticize the party or demand democratic reforms often face lengthy prison sentences.
Hao has been outspoken on social and sports issues, but had not directly challenged the Communist Party until Thursday.
On Friday, China’s Foreign Ministry spokesperson Geng Shuang said: “For such absurd remarks I am not interested in commenting at all.”
YouTube is banned in China, but news of Hao’s extraordinary public comments were fast spreading on Chinese social media by Thursday afternoon, catching many by surprise. His account on Weibo, China’s version of Twitter, appears to have since been deleted.https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/06/asia/chinese-soccer-star-intl-hnk/index.html
I wish him good luck with that. I think his comments about the CCP are warranted.
Sure.
He’s a mainland China resident. So … best wishes.
dv said:
party_pants said:
dv said:
(CNN)A retired Chinese soccer star has openly called for the downfall of China’s ruling Communist Party, in what he says was the “biggest and most correct decision” of his life.Hao Haidong, 50, was a household name among millions of soccer fans in China in the 1990s and 2000s, and briefly played for English club Sheffield United, but in recent years had been relatively low profile. On Thursday, however, he made a surprise appearance in two videos on the YouTube channel of Guo Wengui, an exiled Chinese tycoon and fierce critic of the Chinese government.
In the first video, Hao read out in Chinese a manifesto of the “Federal State of New China,” a government proposed by Guo as an alternative to the Chinese Communist regime.
“The Communist Party’s totalitarian rule in China has caused horrific atrocities against humanity,” he said, denouncing the party as a “terrorist organization” that has “trampled over democracy, violated the rule of law and dishonored lawful agreements.”
He also accused Beijing of violating its promise to Hong Kong to keep the “one country, two systems” principle unchanged for 50 years, and “brutally cracking down on Hong Kongers defending democracy and freedoms.”It is extremely rare, if not unprecedented, for a successful Chinese sports star to unleash such a blistering public denunciation of the Communist Party and openly call for its downfall. Dissidents who publicly criticize the party or demand democratic reforms often face lengthy prison sentences.
Hao has been outspoken on social and sports issues, but had not directly challenged the Communist Party until Thursday.
On Friday, China’s Foreign Ministry spokesperson Geng Shuang said: “For such absurd remarks I am not interested in commenting at all.”
YouTube is banned in China, but news of Hao’s extraordinary public comments were fast spreading on Chinese social media by Thursday afternoon, catching many by surprise. His account on Weibo, China’s version of Twitter, appears to have since been deleted.https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/06/asia/chinese-soccer-star-intl-hnk/index.html
I wish him good luck with that. I think his comments about the CCP are warranted.
Sure.
He’s a mainland China resident. So … best wishes.
He’ll get recycled and put to good use…
dv said:
party_pants said:
dv said:
(CNN)A retired Chinese soccer star has openly called for the downfall of China’s ruling Communist Party, in what he says was the “biggest and most correct decision” of his life.Hao Haidong, 50, was a household name among millions of soccer fans in China in the 1990s and 2000s, and briefly played for English club Sheffield United, but in recent years had been relatively low profile. On Thursday, however, he made a surprise appearance in two videos on the YouTube channel of Guo Wengui, an exiled Chinese tycoon and fierce critic of the Chinese government.
In the first video, Hao read out in Chinese a manifesto of the “Federal State of New China,” a government proposed by Guo as an alternative to the Chinese Communist regime.
“The Communist Party’s totalitarian rule in China has caused horrific atrocities against humanity,” he said, denouncing the party as a “terrorist organization” that has “trampled over democracy, violated the rule of law and dishonored lawful agreements.”
He also accused Beijing of violating its promise to Hong Kong to keep the “one country, two systems” principle unchanged for 50 years, and “brutally cracking down on Hong Kongers defending democracy and freedoms.”It is extremely rare, if not unprecedented, for a successful Chinese sports star to unleash such a blistering public denunciation of the Communist Party and openly call for its downfall. Dissidents who publicly criticize the party or demand democratic reforms often face lengthy prison sentences.
Hao has been outspoken on social and sports issues, but had not directly challenged the Communist Party until Thursday.
On Friday, China’s Foreign Ministry spokesperson Geng Shuang said: “For such absurd remarks I am not interested in commenting at all.”
YouTube is banned in China, but news of Hao’s extraordinary public comments were fast spreading on Chinese social media by Thursday afternoon, catching many by surprise. His account on Weibo, China’s version of Twitter, appears to have since been deleted.https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/06/asia/chinese-soccer-star-intl-hnk/index.html
I wish him good luck with that. I think his comments about the CCP are warranted.
Sure.
He’s a mainland China resident. So … best wishes.
e might have to go and live in the Ecuadorian embassy for a few years.
party_pants said:
dv said:
party_pants said:I wish him good luck with that. I think his comments about the CCP are warranted.
Sure.
He’s a mainland China resident. So … best wishes.
e might have to go and live in the Ecuadorian embassy for a few years.
don’t worry they have an excellent history of extraditing known criminals terrorists
More on fox-terrier sized horses.
This site:
https://unbound.com/books/why-did-the-policeman-cross-the-road/updates/the-case-of-the-creeping-fox-terrier-clone
says that Gould found that the statement about the pre-horses being about the size of a fox terrier was actually correct.
That’s not how I remember it.
Anyone got the book handy so we can check?
The Rev Dodgson said:
More on fox-terrier sized horses.This site:
https://unbound.com/books/why-did-the-policeman-cross-the-road/updates/the-case-of-the-creeping-fox-terrier-clonesays that Gould found that the statement about the pre-horses being about the size of a fox terrier was actually correct.
That’s not how I remember it.
Anyone got the book handy so we can check?
It all began with an animal called Hyracotherium (or Eohippus as it was called in older textbooks)
—-
You learn stuff… and then they change it.
The Rev Dodgson said:
More on fox-terrier sized horses.This site:
https://unbound.com/books/why-did-the-policeman-cross-the-road/updates/the-case-of-the-creeping-fox-terrier-clonesays that Gould found that the statement about the pre-horses being about the size of a fox terrier was actually correct.
That’s not how I remember it.
Anyone got the book handy so we can check?
I’m not familiar with it.
But it does seem that Eohippus was about the size of a fox terrier.
Britannica has a picture that appears to show it around 40 cm high at the shoulder.
https://www.britannica.com/animal/dawn-horse
This resource says 12 – 14 inches at the shoulder (30 to 36 cm)
https://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjects/mammals/horse/Eohippuscoloring.shtml
This doggy reference says the Fox Terrier is “Up to 1 foot, 3 inches tall at the shoulder”, ie 38 cm.
https://dogtime.com/dog-breeds/fox-terrier

Just came back from Bunnings with one of these.
I got in via the stairs because both the down and up escalators were coming down.
Peak Warming Man said:
Just came back from Bunnings with one of these.
I got in via the stairs because both the down and up escalators were coming down.
Some form of pump or compressor?
barbara’s hungry, making all those new feathers
sibeen said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Just came back from Bunnings with one of these.
I got in via the stairs because both the down and up escalators were coming down.
Some form of pump or compressor?
compressor.
transition said:
barbara’s hungry, making all those new feathers
today’s good news, of avians, is that striated pardalotes came right into the yard here earlier, just before headed out farm
sibeen said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Just came back from Bunnings with one of these.
I got in via the stairs because both the down and up escalators were coming down.
Some form of pump or compressor?
Yeah, electric air compressor for pumping up tyres, 240/12v
You can set the pressure and then just walk away Renee.
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Just came back from Bunnings with one of these.
I got in via the stairs because both the down and up escalators were coming down.
Some form of pump or compressor?
compressor.
No, it’s a pump.
transition said:
barbara’s hungry, making all those new feathers
Give her some extra protein and tell her you expect her to start laying soon.
:)
party_pants said:
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:Some form of pump or compressor?
compressor.
No, it’s a pump.
How do you pump air without compressing it?
transition said:
transition said:
barbara’s hungry, making all those new feathers
today’s good news, of avians, is that striated pardalotes came right into the yard here earlier, just before headed out farm
and barbara’s done a poo in here lady just discovered
>Give her some extra protein and tell her you expect her to start laying soon :)
been mentioning that to her, encouraging-like, we’re looking forward to some eggs
Anyone here know of a sed library?
btm said:
Anyone here know of a sed library?
Never heard of him.
Roasting a load of pumpkin and carrot for tonight’s soup.
Peak Warming Man said:
btm said:
Anyone here know of a sed library?
Never heard of him.
Sounds like a New Zealander.
Bubblecar said:
Roasting a load of pumpkin and carrot for tonight’s soup.
Make note of it in the log, Mr Spock.
My question is:
is anyone here qualified to give financial advice?
Mr car…check out the last iso song I posted.
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
More on fox-terrier sized horses.This site:
https://unbound.com/books/why-did-the-policeman-cross-the-road/updates/the-case-of-the-creeping-fox-terrier-clonesays that Gould found that the statement about the pre-horses being about the size of a fox terrier was actually correct.
That’s not how I remember it.
Anyone got the book handy so we can check?
I’m not familiar with it.
But it does seem that Eohippus was about the size of a fox terrier.
Britannica has a picture that appears to show it around 40 cm high at the shoulder.
https://www.britannica.com/animal/dawn-horseThis resource says 12 – 14 inches at the shoulder (30 to 36 cm)
https://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjects/mammals/horse/Eohippuscoloring.shtmlThis doggy reference says the Fox Terrier is “Up to 1 foot, 3 inches tall at the shoulder”, ie 38 cm.
https://dogtime.com/dog-breeds/fox-terrier
Just checking back at TATE, it says eohippus was 12 in, and fox terriers are up to 13 in at the shoulder, so it does look like I mis-remembered.
captain_spalding said:
My question is:is anyone here qualified to give financial advice?
puts up hand
steps forward
I’m not.
captain_spalding said:
My question is:is anyone here qualified to give financial advice?
probably all of us.
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:
My question is:is anyone here qualified to give financial advice?
puts up hand
steps forwardI’m not.
Thank you. My search has been eased by a small but measurable degree.
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:
My question is:is anyone here qualified to give financial advice?
puts up hand
steps forwardI’m not.
I am allowed to give financial advice provided that I add a statement saying I am not qualified to give financial advice a the end.
Arts said:
captain_spalding said:
My question is:is anyone here qualified to give financial advice?
probably all of us.
Yes, we are all above average investors in here.
captain_spalding said:
My question is:is anyone here qualified to give financial advice?
Don’t spend it all in the one shop.
Bubblecar said:
captain_spalding said:
My question is:is anyone here qualified to give financial advice?
Don’t spend it all in the one shop.
Keep 5 bob in your back pocket, and you will never be without money.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Arts said:
captain_spalding said:
My question is:is anyone here qualified to give financial advice?
probably all of us.
Yes, we are all above average investors in here.
I’m not. I’m rather hopeless at calculating risk and reward.
Well, why i’m asking is:
retirement presents me with two options:
1. Stay there until the end of the 2020/2021 Fin Yr, and then cash in my long service leave (estimating $20,000 payout), and then stick all that into the super fund as a one-off.
2. Take the LSL some months before the EOFY, enjoy the time off while on full pay and super continues to accrue, and just never return to work.
I’ve heard people speak in favour of both.
Anyone here got opinions on/experience of this?
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCo4S-ThBT3KDDHAMvKw2SQg
The Hoof GP
SW Scotland. some nice scenery. He does cow hoofs.
sarahs mum said:
Mr car…check out the last iso song I posted.
That’s a rousing one :)
captain_spalding said:
Well, why i’m asking is:retirement presents me with two options:
1. Stay there until the end of the 2020/2021 Fin Yr, and then cash in my long service leave (estimating $20,000 payout), and then stick all that into the super fund as a one-off.
2. Take the LSL some months before the EOFY, enjoy the time off while on full pay and super continues to accrue, and just never return to work.
I’ve heard people speak in favour of both.
Anyone here got opinions on/experience of this?
can you still add to super if you are over a certain age?
Bogsnorkler said:
captain_spalding said:
Well, why i’m asking is:retirement presents me with two options:
1. Stay there until the end of the 2020/2021 Fin Yr, and then cash in my long service leave (estimating $20,000 payout), and then stick all that into the super fund as a one-off.
2. Take the LSL some months before the EOFY, enjoy the time off while on full pay and super continues to accrue, and just never return to work.
I’ve heard people speak in favour of both.
Anyone here got opinions on/experience of this?
can you still add to super if you are over a certain age?
AFAICR, you can continue to contribute to super up to age 75.
At which point a policeman will push you over, and obviate your need for super.
we’d vote for that
SCIENCE said:
we’d vote for that
I am a river to my people.
ABC News:
‘Police defend the use of pepper spray during ugly scenes between officers and protesters following yesterday’s Black Lives Matter rally in Sydney. ‘
Police should be more careful in their use of pepper spray. It may occur to some protesters to Google ‘pepper spray’, and they’ll discover just how piss-easy it is to make at home.
Hope the cops are ready for that.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Mr car…check out the last iso song I posted.
That’s a rousing one :)
I’m guessing you would like it more than the original. :)
captain_spalding said:
Well, why i’m asking is:retirement presents me with two options:
1. Stay there until the end of the 2020/2021 Fin Yr, and then cash in my long service leave (estimating $20,000 payout), and then stick all that into the super fund as a one-off.
2. Take the LSL some months before the EOFY, enjoy the time off while on full pay and super continues to accrue, and just never return to work.
I’ve heard people speak in favour of both.
Anyone here got opinions on/experience of this?
do you like work?
I’d take option two while thinking about how my father died when he was 60 after spending his last years taking out more units of super.
transition said:
transition said:
transition said:
barbara’s hungry, making all those new feathers
today’s good news, of avians, is that striated pardalotes came right into the yard here earlier, just before headed out farm
and barbara’s done a poo in here lady just discovered
>Give her some extra protein and tell her you expect her to start laying soon :)
been mentioning that to her, encouraging-like, we’re looking forward to some eggs
Yes, I’m trying to persuade Lizza the chook to get a move on. I’m going to use the last of the eggs in the fridge for a gugelhupf tomorrow. I might have to drive out of town and get some roadside eggs if she doesn’t hurry up.
captain_spalding said:
My question is:is anyone here qualified to give financial advice?
Not me sire, but the walk on the beach was nice.
captain_spalding said:
Well, why i’m asking is:retirement presents me with two options:
1. Stay there until the end of the 2020/2021 Fin Yr, and then cash in my long service leave (estimating $20,000 payout), and then stick all that into the super fund as a one-off.
2. Take the LSL some months before the EOFY, enjoy the time off while on full pay and super continues to accrue, and just never return to work.
I’ve heard people speak in favour of both.
Anyone here got opinions on/experience of this?
So if you keep working to the end, you will have an extra $20,000 cash.
Is not working over the LSL period worth 20,000 to you? It really depends how much you like/dislike doing your job.
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
My question is:is anyone here qualified to give financial advice?
Not me sire, but the walk on the beach was nice.
Peace be upon you.
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
My question is:is anyone here qualified to give financial advice?
Not me sire, but the walk on the beach was nice.
You’d be as qualified as anyone else, just add
*MV is not a financial adviser. You should consider seeking independent legal, financial, taxation or other advice to check how the website information relates to your unique circumstances.
MV is not liable for any loss caused, whether due to negligence or otherwise arising from the use of, or reliance on, the information provided directly or indirectly, by use of this information.
Take his money for advice then bear none of the consequences when it goes sour, it’s great lark.
striated pardalote, was two, one near ute as was walking out to go out farm, it thought I was too interested and left, it was talking to another over in road reserve…
https://www.flickr.com/photos/164337984@N08/
callin’t a day
buffy said:
transition said:
transition said:today’s good news, of avians, is that striated pardalotes came right into the yard here earlier, just before headed out farm
and barbara’s done a poo in here lady just discovered
>Give her some extra protein and tell her you expect her to start laying soon :)
been mentioning that to her, encouraging-like, we’re looking forward to some eggs
Yes, I’m trying to persuade Lizza the chook to get a move on. I’m going to use the last of the eggs in the fridge for a gugelhupf tomorrow. I might have to drive out of town and get some roadside eggs if she doesn’t hurry up.
Still a couple of weeks to the shortest day.
captain_spalding said:
At which point a policeman will push you over, and obviate your need for super.
A MONGREL policeman.
sarahs mum said:
do you like work?
I’d take option two while thinking about how my father died when he was 60 after spending his last years taking out more units of super.
Do i like work?
Someone asked me a while back who i worked for.
‘Oh’, i replied, ‘i’ve never worked for anyone.”
Serious – don’t care about it. I don’t know what it is that i’d like to be doing these days, but what i have sure ain’t it.
captain_spalding said:
Bogsnorkler said:
captain_spalding said:
Well, why i’m asking is:retirement presents me with two options:
1. Stay there until the end of the 2020/2021 Fin Yr, and then cash in my long service leave (estimating $20,000 payout), and then stick all that into the super fund as a one-off.
2. Take the LSL some months before the EOFY, enjoy the time off while on full pay and super continues to accrue, and just never return to work.
I’ve heard people speak in favour of both.
Anyone here got opinions on/experience of this?
can you still add to super if you are over a certain age?
AFAICR, you can continue to contribute to super up to age 75.
I think only if you are still working. I haven’t looked into it, but I’m pretty sure I can’t add to my super now. I idly wondered if the Casterton money should go into super, but decided just to keep it free.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Mr car…check out the last iso song I posted.
That’s a rousing one :)
I’m guessing you would like it more than the original. :)
It’s very clever.
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘Police defend the use of pepper spray during ugly scenes between officers and protesters following yesterday’s Black Lives Matter rally in Sydney. ‘
Police should be more careful in their use of pepper spray. It may occur to some protesters to Google ‘pepper spray’, and they’ll discover just how piss-easy it is to make at home.
Hope the cops are ready for that.
our colleagues grow Trinidad Scorpion and Carolina Reaper, both easily available from local hardware store
poikilotherm said:
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
My question is:is anyone here qualified to give financial advice?
Not me sire, but the walk on the beach was nice.
You’d be as qualified as anyone else, just add
*MV is not a financial adviser. You should consider seeking independent legal, financial, taxation or other advice to check how the website information relates to your unique circumstances.
MV is not liable for any loss caused, whether due to negligence or otherwise arising from the use of, or reliance on, the information provided directly or indirectly, by use of this information.
Take his money for advice then bear none of the consequences when it goes sour, it’s great lark.
LOLz
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
At which point a policeman will push you over, and obviate your need for super.
A MONGREL policeman.
Two of them have been charged. the rest of them stood outside in solidarity
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/two-buffalo-police-charged-with-assault-over-shoving-of-elderly-protester-20200607-p5508d.htmlSCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘Police defend the use of pepper spray during ugly scenes between officers and protesters following yesterday’s Black Lives Matter rally in Sydney. ‘
Police should be more careful in their use of pepper spray. It may occur to some protesters to Google ‘pepper spray’, and they’ll discover just how piss-easy it is to make at home.
Hope the cops are ready for that.
our colleagues grow Trinidad Scorpion and Carolina Reaper, both easily available from local hardware store
Well, that’s just it.
You can put whatever you like in your homemade mix.
Retaliation could conceivably be quite severe.
Arts said:
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
At which point a policeman will push you over, and obviate your need for super.
A MONGREL policeman.
Two of them have been charged. the rest of them stood outside in solidarity
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/two-buffalo-police-charged-with-assault-over-shoving-of-elderly-protester-20200607-p5508d.html
The blood spilling out on the pavement. I reckon it wasn’t far from a murder charge.
buffy said:
captain_spalding said:
Bogsnorkler said:can you still add to super if you are over a certain age?
AFAICR, you can continue to contribute to super up to age 75.
I think only if you are still working. I haven’t looked into it, but I’m pretty sure I can’t add to my super now. I idly wondered if the Casterton money should go into super, but decided just to keep it free.
We’ve added cash to Mrs V’s super in the last year. She’s not working, and hasn’t for 5 years or so.
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:
Michael V said:A MONGREL policeman.
Two of them have been charged. the rest of them stood outside in solidarity
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/two-buffalo-police-charged-with-assault-over-shoving-of-elderly-protester-20200607-p5508d.htmlThe blood spilling out on the pavement. I reckon it wasn’t far from a murder charge.
And all the poor bastard was trying to do was to return a police riot helmet to them.
Ning!
With apologies if this has been posted already.
Found this interesting (although now 36 hours old, so there’s probably stuff missing):
What have these protests accomplished so far?
5/26 – 4 officers fired for murdering George Floyd
5/28 Univ of Minn cancels contract with police
5/28 3rd precinct police station neutralized by protestors
5/28 ATU Local 1005 refuses to bring police officers to protests, or transport arrested protesters
5/29 Activists commander hotel to provide shelter to homeless
5/29 Officer Chauvin who killed Floyd arrested
5/29 Louisville Mayor suspends “no-knock” warrants in response to polices 3/12
5/30 US Embassies across Africa condemn police murder of Floyd
5/30 MN AG Ellison takes over prosecution of the murdering officer
5/30 TWU Local 100 bus operators refuse to transport arrests protestors
5/31 2 abusive officers fired for pulling a couple out of car and tasing them
6/1 Minn public schools end contract with police
6/1 Confederate Monument removed – Birmingham, AL
6/1 CA prosecutors launch campaign to stop DA’s from accepting police union money
6/1 Tulsa Mayor Bynum agrees to not renew Live PD contract
6/1 Louisville police chief fired after shooting of David Mcatee at BBQ joint
6/1 Dems and Reps begin push to shut down a Pentagon program that transfers military weaponry to cancels contract with police
6/2 Minn AFL-CIO calls for the resignation of Bob Kroll, the president of the Minn police union (Bob Kroll is a vocal white supremacist)
6/2 ATU Local 85 announces refusal to transport police officers or arrest protestors
6/2 Racist Ex-Mayor Rizzo statue removed
6/2 6 abusive officers charged for violence against residents and protestors – Atlanta, GA
6/2 Confederate soldier statue removed – Alexandire, VA
6/2 Robert Lee statue removed
6/2 Civil Rights investigation of Minn Police Dept launched
6/2 Resolution to prevent law enforcement from hiring officers with history of misconduct announced by San Fran DA Boudin and Supervisor Walton
6/2 Survey indicating 64% of polled sympathetic to protestors, and 47% disapprove of police handling + 54% think burning down of precinct fully or partially justified
6/2 NJ AG announces policing reforms
6/2 Minn City Council members publicly call for disbanding the police and replace safety and outreach capacity
6/3 1 officer fired for tweets promoting violence against protestors – Denver, Co
6/3 Minn Institute of Art, First Avenue, Walker Art Center end use of MPD for events
6/3 Officer Chauvin charged and taken into custody
6/3 Officer Chauvin charges upgraded to 2nd Murder, ad remaining 3 officers also charged and taken into custody
6/3 VA Gov announces removal of Robert E Lee statue
6/3 Richmond VA Mayor Stoney announces RPD reform measures: establish “Marcus” alert for folks experiencing mental health crisis, establish independent Citizen Review Board, an ordinance to remove Confederate monuments, and implement racial equity study
6/3 County commissioners deny proposal for $23 million expansion of Fulton County jail
6/3 Minn Parks and Rec cut ties with the Minn Police Dep.
6/3 US Army tells soldiers to disobey any orders to attack peaceful protestors – nationwide
6/3 LA Announces $100-150 million cut from LAPD budget, Reinvested into communities, moratorium on gang database, sharper discipline against abusive cops, in effect immediately
6/3 Seattle changes mind and withdraws request to end federal oversight/consent decree of police department
6/4 Breonna Taylor case reopened?
6/4 Portland schools superintendent ‘discontinues’ presence of armed police officers in schools
6/4 MBTA (Metro Boston) board orders that buses wont transport police to protests, or protestors to police
6/4 King County Labor Federation issue ultimatum to police unions, to admit to and address racism in Seattle PD, or be removed
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:do you like work?
I’d take option two while thinking about how my father died when he was 60 after spending his last years taking out more units of super.
Do i like work?
Someone asked me a while back who i worked for.
‘Oh’, i replied, ‘i’ve never worked for anyone.”
Serious – don’t care about it. I don’t know what it is that i’d like to be doing these days, but what i have sure ain’t it.
I’ve been quite comfortable about stopping, even though I did like my work. To my surprise I haven’t missed it. Although there was a lot going on with Dad having his stroke 3 weeks before I closed the practice, still thinking up to the day I closed that Mr Undecided might decide, then having to deal with the stock and the equipment, then Dad dying, then selling the shop, then making the decision that really I didn’t need the Casterton house and getting that all tidied up and emptied out. It will be a year since I retired at the end of this month. Mr buffy says I should count it as only 6 months, and most of that would be the long service leave I never took over the 38 years I was in practice.
I did have it planned out though. I knew from some years ago that I would stop at age 60. And I worked the days down, 4 day weeks then 3 day weeks.
ABC News:
‘Deputy Chief Medical Officer Paul Kelly says the COVIDSafe app was designed with mass gatherings in mind, but fears there has not been a big enough take-up for it to be effective following the Black Lives Matter protests.’
Well, if the government didn’t have an utterly and appallingly shithouse record on data security, maybe more people would have taken it up.
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:
Michael V said:A MONGREL policeman.
Two of them have been charged. the rest of them stood outside in solidarity
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/two-buffalo-police-charged-with-assault-over-shoving-of-elderly-protester-20200607-p5508d.htmlThe blood spilling out on the pavement. I reckon it wasn’t far from a murder charge.
Last I read, he was still in critical condition. (This was after the Police said he was just fine, but before the charged the 2 cops.)
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:Two of them have been charged. the rest of them stood outside in solidarity
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/two-buffalo-police-charged-with-assault-over-shoving-of-elderly-protester-20200607-p5508d.htmlThe blood spilling out on the pavement. I reckon it wasn’t far from a murder charge.
And all the poor bastard was trying to do was to return a police riot helmet to them.
Seems like that.
Michael V said:
buffy said:
captain_spalding said:AFAICR, you can continue to contribute to super up to age 75.
I think only if you are still working. I haven’t looked into it, but I’m pretty sure I can’t add to my super now. I idly wondered if the Casterton money should go into super, but decided just to keep it free.
We’ve added cash to Mrs V’s super in the last year. She’s not working, and hasn’t for 5 years or so.
Oh, I might look into it more then.
poikilotherm said:
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
My question is:is anyone here qualified to give financial advice?
Not me sire, but the walk on the beach was nice.
You’d be as qualified as anyone else, just add
*MV is not a financial adviser. You should consider seeking independent legal, financial, taxation or other advice to check how the website information relates to your unique circumstances.
MV is not liable for any loss caused, whether due to negligence or otherwise arising from the use of, or reliance on, the information provided directly or indirectly, by use of this information.
Take his money for advice then bear none of the consequences when it goes sour, it’s great lark.
Disclaimer-:
Peak Warming Man takes no responsibility for his comments real or implied on the financial health of those who read them.
Peak Warming Man’s legal team will vigorously defend any litigation resulting from financial loss, bankruptcy or debtors imprisonment.
Niece’s hubby’s new guard dog.

>>5/28 3rd precinct police station neutralized by protestors
Stops reading.
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘Deputy Chief Medical Officer Paul Kelly says the COVIDSafe app was designed with mass gatherings in mind, but fears there has not been a big enough take-up for it to be effective following the Black Lives Matter protests.’
Well, if the government didn’t have an utterly and appallingly shithouse record on data security, maybe more people would have taken it up.
I probably would have taken it up, but my 18 month old phone is too outdated to run the app. Designing it for the latest operating systems only, is a serious error.
Bogsnorkler said:
Niece’s hubby’s new guard dog.
Oh, that’ll do just fine and dandy…
Bogsnorkler said:
Niece’s hubby’s new guard dog.
Sad.
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:Two of them have been charged. the rest of them stood outside in solidarity
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/two-buffalo-police-charged-with-assault-over-shoving-of-elderly-protester-20200607-p5508d.htmlThe blood spilling out on the pavement. I reckon it wasn’t far from a murder charge.
Last I read, he was still in critical condition. (This was after the Police said he was just fine, but before the charged the 2 cops.)
Damn,
Bogsnorkler said:
Niece’s hubby’s new guard dog.
puppy…
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:
Michael V said:A MONGREL policeman.
Two of them have been charged. the rest of them stood outside in solidarity
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/two-buffalo-police-charged-with-assault-over-shoving-of-elderly-protester-20200607-p5508d.htmlThe blood spilling out on the pavement. I reckon it wasn’t far from a murder charge.
oh c’m‘on, cracking the skull of some old fella and making sure a previously independent chap now needs a nursing home, is nothing like murder, life is life
Peak Warming Man said:
>>5/28 3rd precinct police station neutralized by protestorsStops reading.
I don’t know what that means. What do you make of it?
Rule 303 said:
Peak Warming Man said:
>>5/28 3rd precinct police station neutralized by protestorsStops reading.
I don’t know what that means. What do you make of it?
I think it means that it was taken to the vet’s, and it had a little ‘operation’,
buffy said:
Michael V said:
buffy said:I think only if you are still working. I haven’t looked into it, but I’m pretty sure I can’t add to my super now. I idly wondered if the Casterton money should go into super, but decided just to keep it free.
We’ve added cash to Mrs V’s super in the last year. She’s not working, and hasn’t for 5 years or so.
Oh, I might look into it more then.
Thanks MV, I had thought I couldn’t do it. I’ll get advice now from my accountant. It might not be worthwhile.
“If you’re under 65 years of age, you can make personal after-tax contributions to your super fund if you’re not working.”
From: https://www.ato.gov.au/Individuals/Super/Growing-your-super/Adding-to-your-super/Personal-super-contributions/
Bogsnorkler said:
Niece’s hubby’s new guard dog.
That one has got a very well bred looking face.
:)
Peak Warming Man said:
>>5/28 3rd precinct police station neutralized by protestorsStops reading.
Yeah, got to that one and thought that’s it.
Rule 303 said:
Peak Warming Man said:
>>5/28 3rd precinct police station neutralized by protestorsStops reading.
I don’t know what that means. What do you make of it?
maybe it was burnt to the ground.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Niece’s hubby’s new guard dog.
Sad.
It knows what’s in store for it.
Killing, killing, and more killing. Oh, when can i cease this carnage, it’s thinking.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Arts said:
captain_spalding said:
My question is:is anyone here qualified to give financial advice?
probably all of us.
Yes, we are all above average investors in here.
One of my majors in my degree was finance, so qualified yes but not registered so I can’t
kryten said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Arts said:probably all of us.
Yes, we are all above average investors in here.
One of my majors in my degree was finance, so qualified yes but not registered so I can’t
I know what you mean. I can fly a helicopter but i don’t have license.
Note: i can fly one. Landing safely …another story.
So you have no retirement plans Captain?
sarahs mum said:
So you have no retirement plans Captain?
Take up chemical engineering.
Turning alcohol into urine.
Rule 303 said:
Peak Warming Man said:
>>5/28 3rd precinct police station neutralized by protestorsStops reading.
I don’t know what that means. What do you make of it?
It means if burning down a police station is one of their so called achievements then the rest of them are not worth reading.
I’ve been out in the countryside for the past couple of days, and discovered the battery needed topping up in the RuleMobile. Probably needs 50ml in each cell, so off I go to the supermarket and pick up a bottle (well, 5L) of de-ionised water.
For those not familiar with the process of de-ionising: Allow water to sit, then multi-stage filter, then reverse-osmosis filter, pour through strong positive ionic medium, then strong negative medium, and you have water that’s pretty much H20 and nothing else – Which looks, smells, and tastes identical to the stuff we get out of the tap in Melbourne. That’s a thing to be grateful for.
:-)
Peak Warming Man said:
Rule 303 said:
Peak Warming Man said:
>>5/28 3rd precinct police station neutralized by protestorsStops reading.
I don’t know what that means. What do you make of it?
It means if burning down a police station is one of their so called achievements then the rest of them are not worth reading.
Yeah, i mean, who hasn’t done that?
Rule 303 said:
That’s a thing to be grateful for.:-)
Heartily agree.
Not until you’ve been in places where the water supply can kill you do you appreciate what we have here.
Peak Warming Man said:
Rule 303 said:
Peak Warming Man said:
>>5/28 3rd precinct police station neutralized by protestorsStops reading.
I don’t know what that means. What do you make of it?
It means if burning down a police station is one of their so called achievements then the rest of them are not worth reading.
Ugh, they burnt down a police station? On the 28th of May? Yikes.
Cream of Chicken & Corn soup, with toast.
Probably have a light supper later.
Rule 303 said:
Peak Warming Man said:
>>5/28 3rd precinct police station neutralized by protestorsStops reading.
I don’t know what that means. What do you make of it?
Razed to the ground by fire.
Rule 303 said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Rule 303 said:I don’t know what that means. What do you make of it?
It means if burning down a police station is one of their so called achievements then the rest of them are not worth reading.
Ugh, they burnt down a police station? On the 28th of May? Yikes.
It’s no way to celebrate the anniversary of the premiere of the Goon Show.
buffy said:
buffy said:
Michael V said:We’ve added cash to Mrs V’s super in the last year. She’s not working, and hasn’t for 5 years or so.
Oh, I might look into it more then.
Thanks MV, I had thought I couldn’t do it. I’ll get advice now from my accountant. It might not be worthwhile.
“If you’re under 65 years of age, you can make personal after-tax contributions to your super fund if you’re not working.”
From: https://www.ato.gov.au/Individuals/Super/Growing-your-super/Adding-to-your-super/Personal-super-contributions/
:)
Mrs V was under 65 at the time…
:)
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
So you have no retirement plans Captain?Take up chemical engineering.
Turning alcohol into urine.
LOL
:)
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
So you have no retirement plans Captain?Take up chemical engineering.
Turning alcohol into urine.
Is that all there is? Are you going to brew beer?
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Rule 303 said:I don’t know what that means. What do you make of it?
It means if burning down a police station is one of their so called achievements then the rest of them are not worth reading.
Yeah, i mean, who hasn’t done that?
Why is the assumption burning down a police station? I read it to probably just mean surrounding it and not letting the police get out.
buffy said:
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:It means if burning down a police station is one of their so called achievements then the rest of them are not worth reading.
Yeah, i mean, who hasn’t done that?
Why is the assumption burning down a police station? I read it to probably just mean surrounding it and not letting the police get out.
because it was burnt down. but it is only property and not a life. some seem to think that property is more important. I reckon those sort of people are arseholes.
Well, preparing tea turned into fun. Cornchips into dishes. Start putting grated cheese across the top (from a packet of grated melty cheese that has been frozen for some time). Retrieve cornchips, dust off cheese and chuck out cheese – it’s mouldy! So I had to do my own grated mix of parmesan, edam and Warrnambool cheddar. It will probably be better anyway.
Bogsnorkler said:
buffy said:
captain_spalding said:Yeah, i mean, who hasn’t done that?
Why is the assumption burning down a police station? I read it to probably just mean surrounding it and not letting the police get out.
because it was burnt down. but it is only property and not a life. some seem to think that property is more important. I reckon those sort of people are arseholes.
I didn’t know a police station had been burnt down. Must have missed that one.
buffy said:
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:It means if burning down a police station is one of their so called achievements then the rest of them are not worth reading.
Yeah, i mean, who hasn’t done that?
Why is the assumption burning down a police station? I read it to probably just mean surrounding it and not letting the police get out.
Bogsnorkler said:
Niece’s hubby’s new guard dog.
I’m afraid it won’t stay small and ugly for long.
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:
Peak Warming Man said:
>>5/28 3rd precinct police station neutralized by protestorsStops reading.
I don’t know what that means. What do you make of it?
Razed to the ground by fire.
FRT, it is inconceivable to me that anybody would claim this as a positive change that has been achieved by protests.
buffy said:
Bogsnorkler said:
buffy said:Why is the assumption burning down a police station? I read it to probably just mean surrounding it and not letting the police get out.
because it was burnt down. but it is only property and not a life. some seem to think that property is more important. I reckon those sort of people are arseholes.
I didn’t know a police station had been burnt down. Must have missed that one.
To clarify a little, the claim of ‘neutralizing’ it was for the 28th – It was set alight after the police abandoned it (read: ran for their lives) on the 29th.
buffy said:
Bogsnorkler said:
buffy said:Why is the assumption burning down a police station? I read it to probably just mean surrounding it and not letting the police get out.
because it was burnt down. but it is only property and not a life. some seem to think that property is more important. I reckon those sort of people are arseholes.
I didn’t know a police station had been burnt down. Must have missed that one.
It was the precinct that the murderous police came from.
In fairness, arson in a city can lead to loss of life…
Rule 303 said:
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:I don’t know what that means. What do you make of it?
Razed to the ground by fire.
FRT, it is inconceivable to me that anybody would claim this as a positive change that has been achieved by protests.
so what about all the other buildings? aren’t they worth a mention?
dv said:
In fairness, arson in a city can lead to loss of life…
…yep, dresden comes to mind. and tokyo. but they were legal i guess. and for a good cause.
Bogsnorkler said:
buffy said:
captain_spalding said:Yeah, i mean, who hasn’t done that?
Why is the assumption burning down a police station? I read it to probably just mean surrounding it and not letting the police get out.
because it was burnt down. but it is only property and not a life. some seem to think that property is more important. I reckon those sort of people are arseholes.
Slaves Are Property
dv said:
In fairness, arson in a city can lead to loss of life…
And What Is Life But A Highly Evolved Form Of Fire
captain_spalding said:
Rule 303 said:
Peak Warming Man said:It means if burning down a police station is one of their so called achievements then the rest of them are not worth reading.
Ugh, they burnt down a police station? On the 28th of May? Yikes.
It’s no way to celebrate the anniversary of the premiere of the Goon Show.
I don’t wish to know that.
Roast pumpkin & carrots are now well mashed together with some caramelised onion and garlic, and simmering in chicken stock with a touch of cumin, lemon pepper and nutmeg.
Don’t have any cream but I’ll add some full cream milk when it’s nearly ready.
Bogsnorkler said:
Rule 303 said:
Michael V said:Razed to the ground by fire.
FRT, it is inconceivable to me that anybody would claim this as a positive change that has been achieved by protests.
so what about all the other buildings? aren’t they worth a mention?
Not my circus, not my monkeys, but yeah, I reckon that’s a fair question.
How many buildings will it take to eradicate white supremacists from the governments and police of the US?
Microsoft billed me for another subscription to Office.
In fairness they did give me fair warning and option to cancel but I missed the boat, now that I’m retired I hardly use their products anymore.
Anyway I see a thing in their spiel about 60 minutes of skipe per month
Is that free per month?
https://amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jun/07/australian-black-lives-matter-protests-incredibly-selfish-mathias-cormann-says
Students fear lost semester of learning as universities plan for campus return
(SMH article)
No surprises there.
There’s a shed load of rearview cameras out there.
I’m after one, I’ve asked a couple of fences from the local pub but they say they are currently out of stock and they don’t have a web site so I’ll have to buy a new one.
It will have to be wireless because I want to move it between vehicles, anyone had experience with these?
Verdict: delicious. More akin to pumpkin porridge than pumpkin soup, but that’s the way I like it.
Would be ideal with a bacon sandwich to dunk in, but I’m on a diet.
Peak Warming Man said:
There’s a shed load of rearview cameras out there.
I’m after one, I’ve asked a couple of fences from the local pub but they say they are currently out of stock and they don’t have a web site so I’ll have to buy a new one.
It will have to be wireless because I want to move it between vehicles, anyone had experience with these?
yeah. lots of people, but i’m not one of them.
Peak Warming Man said:
There’s a shed load of rearview cameras out there.
I’m after one, I’ve asked a couple of fences from the local pub but they say they are currently out of stock and they don’t have a web site so I’ll have to buy a new one.
It will have to be wireless because I want to move it between vehicles, anyone had experience with these?
A little, yeah. Bought one recently.
But first, when you say ‘rear view’ do you mean looking backward?
Bubblecar said:
Verdict: delicious. More akin to pumpkin porridge than pumpkin soup, but that’s the way I like it.Would be ideal with a bacon sandwich to dunk in, but I’m on a diet.
Lovely.
Bogsnorkler said:
https://amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jun/07/australian-black-lives-matter-protests-incredibly-selfish-mathias-cormann-says
not going to bother reading.
Peak Warming Man said:
There’s a shed load of rearview cameras out there.
I’m after one, I’ve asked a couple of fences from the local pub but they say they are currently out of stock and they don’t have a web site so I’ll have to buy a new one.
It will have to be wireless because I want to move it between vehicles, anyone had experience with these?
Yep wireless doesn’t work on utes, you also have to splice into revering light wire.
sarahs mum said:
Bogsnorkler said:
https://amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jun/07/australian-black-lives-matter-protests-incredibly-selfish-mathias-cormann-says
not going to bother reading.
But, he knows what he’s talking about. Matthias is an expert on selfishness.
Peak Warming Man said:
There’s a shed load of rearview cameras out there.
I’m after one, I’ve asked a couple of fences from the local pub but they say they are currently out of stock and they don’t have a web site so I’ll have to buy a new one.
It will have to be wireless because I want to move it between vehicles, anyone had experience with these?
Go on Aliexpress.
West Taiwan has shedloads on offer for a fraction of what you’ll pay to retailers here.
Rule 303 said:
Peak Warming Man said:
There’s a shed load of rearview cameras out there.
I’m after one, I’ve asked a couple of fences from the local pub but they say they are currently out of stock and they don’t have a web site so I’ll have to buy a new one.
It will have to be wireless because I want to move it between vehicles, anyone had experience with these?
A little, yeah. Bought one recently.
But first, when you say ‘rear view’ do you mean looking backward?
Yeah, I was hoping that a wireless system would include a battery powered camera but it looks like they get their power from the vehicles electrics. ie you have to tap in somewhere.
The display monitor are mostly ok as you can get the power off the cigarette lighter.
kryten said:
Peak Warming Man said:
There’s a shed load of rearview cameras out there.
I’m after one, I’ve asked a couple of fences from the local pub but they say they are currently out of stock and they don’t have a web site so I’ll have to buy a new one.
It will have to be wireless because I want to move it between vehicles, anyone had experience with these?
Yep wireless doesn’t work on utes, you also have to splice into revering light wire.
Ooohhh, utes too long?
Peak Warming Man said:
Rule 303 said:
Peak Warming Man said:
There’s a shed load of rearview cameras out there.
I’m after one, I’ve asked a couple of fences from the local pub but they say they are currently out of stock and they don’t have a web site so I’ll have to buy a new one.
It will have to be wireless because I want to move it between vehicles, anyone had experience with these?
A little, yeah. Bought one recently.
But first, when you say ‘rear view’ do you mean looking backward?
Yeah, I was hoping that a wireless system would include a battery powered camera but it looks like they get their power from the vehicles electrics. ie you have to tap in somewhere.
The display monitor are mostly ok as you can get the power off the cigarette lighter.
Or just splice it into the radio’s power supply, so that if the radio has power, so does the monitor.
Peak Warming Man said:
Rule 303 said:
Peak Warming Man said:
There’s a shed load of rearview cameras out there.
I’m after one, I’ve asked a couple of fences from the local pub but they say they are currently out of stock and they don’t have a web site so I’ll have to buy a new one.
It will have to be wireless because I want to move it between vehicles, anyone had experience with these?
A little, yeah. Bought one recently.
But first, when you say ‘rear view’ do you mean looking backward?
Yeah, I was hoping that a wireless system would include a battery powered camera but it looks like they get their power from the vehicles electrics. ie you have to tap in somewhere.
The display monitor are mostly ok as you can get the power off the cigarette lighter.
Ah, OK. Then no, I’m sorry, I don’t know things about them.
ABC News:
‘People heading into Tasmania’s remote areas to enjoy themselves following the lifting of coronavirus measures have been told to be better prepared, after a weekend of rescues.’
That’s our Taswegians.
As soon as it’s permitted, they run headlong into the bush until they’re winded, then spin around until they’re so dizzy they fall over, and then set off an EPIRB.
If you really need portability between vehicles (but can’t be bothered with wiring into a power supply), you can get 12V out of 4 CR 2032 batteries, stacked and taped or heat-shrinked together, and they have an extremely low self-discharge rate.
Do they still operate a casino at Wrest Point in Hobart, or is it just a hotel these days?
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘People heading into Tasmania’s remote areas to enjoy themselves following the lifting of coronavirus measures have been told to be better prepared, after a weekend of rescues.’
That’s our Taswegians.
As soon as it’s permitted, they run headlong into the bush until they’re winded, then spin around until they’re so dizzy they fall over, and then set off an EPIRB.
LOL
Rule 303 said:
If you really need portability between vehicles (but can’t be bothered with wiring into a power supply), you can get 12V out of 4 CR 2032 batteries, stacked and taped or heat-shrinked together, and they have an extremely low self-discharge rate.
Cheers.
Peak Warming Man said:
kryten said:
Peak Warming Man said:
There’s a shed load of rearview cameras out there.
I’m after one, I’ve asked a couple of fences from the local pub but they say they are currently out of stock and they don’t have a web site so I’ll have to buy a new one.
It will have to be wireless because I want to move it between vehicles, anyone had experience with these?
Yep wireless doesn’t work on utes, you also have to splice into revering light wire.
Ooohhh, utes too long?
Too much metal on the tray. I tried.
Mmm…dessert of one scoop of vanilla icecream with loganberry sauce on top.
Going to watch NITV in a minute for
1491: The Untold Story Of The Americas
Sunday, 7 Jun
7:35 PM – 8:30 PM
Indigeneous creation stories will be explored as well as key discoveries by archaeologists, anthropologists, geneticists and linguists on how and when Indigenous people first arrived in the Western Hemisphere.
and then over to ABC for Operation Buffalo.
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/pilot-uses-flight-path-to-create-powerful-tribute-to-george-floyd/news-story/813dcb4bdae8c7414df9babbddeff469

Stalybridge Cycling Club 1880
sarahs mum said:
![]()
Stalybridge Cycling Club 1880
Gees they dressed funny in those days.
Looks like Magwitch in the doorway.
Now if a few days ago someone had stopped me in the street and put a coronavirus to my head and asked me what year David Lean made Great Expectations I would have said 1948.
However I’ve just learnt that Wiki is saying 1946, so be it.
However on another Wiki page the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Science agrees with PWM.
Peak Warming Man said:
Now if a few days ago someone had stopped me in the street and put a coronavirus to my head and asked me what year David Lean made Great Expectations I would have said 1948.
However I’ve just learnt that Wiki is saying 1946, so be it.
However on another Wiki page the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Science agrees with PWM.
Shot in late 1946.
Screened in 1947.
Wins Academy Award early 1948.
Seems possible.
Pinched from the ‘I’m Pretty Sure That’s Not Science’ Facebook group:
It’s not the best standard of measurement, but it’s the yellowest.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/miracle-baby-dies-after-lotus-birth-at-melbourne-hospital-20200605-p54zvl.html
Queen’s Birthday honours recognises high-profile Australians including Tony Abbott, Bronwyn Bishop and Marcia Langton
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-07/tony-abbott-scores-queens-birthday-top-honour/12330492
And all I can say is “It’s about time”.
sibeen said:
Queen’s Birthday honours recognises high-profile Australians including Tony Abbott, Bronwyn Bishop and Marcia Langtonhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-07/tony-abbott-scores-queens-birthday-top-honour/12330492
And all I can say is “It’s about time”.
I’m not sure what tony has done that warrants an honour….
sibeen said:
Queen’s Birthday honours recognises high-profile Australians including Tony Abbott, Bronwyn Bishop and Marcia Langtonhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-07/tony-abbott-scores-queens-birthday-top-honour/12330492
And all I can say is “It’s about time”.
There’s nothing honourable about Tony Abbott and Bronwyn Bishop.
Marcia Langton is more honourable than both of those two put together.
furious said:
sibeen said:
Queen’s Birthday honours recognises high-profile Australians including Tony Abbott, Bronwyn Bishop and Marcia Langtonhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-07/tony-abbott-scores-queens-birthday-top-honour/12330492
And all I can say is “It’s about time”.
I’m not sure what tony has done that warrants an honour….
knighted the prince, gotta keep it in the family you know
furious said:
sibeen said:
Queen’s Birthday honours recognises high-profile Australians including Tony Abbott, Bronwyn Bishop and Marcia Langtonhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-07/tony-abbott-scores-queens-birthday-top-honour/12330492
And all I can say is “It’s about time”.
I’m not sure what tony has done that warrants an honour….
There’s a bunch of people in the list that do deserve.
SCIENCE said:
furious said:
sibeen said:
Queen’s Birthday honours recognises high-profile Australians including Tony Abbott, Bronwyn Bishop and Marcia Langtonhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-07/tony-abbott-scores-queens-birthday-top-honour/12330492
And all I can say is “It’s about time”.
I’m not sure what tony has done that warrants an honour….
knighted the prince, gotta keep it in the family you know
So, it is some exclusive game of tag?
SCIENCE said:
furious said:
sibeen said:
Queen’s Birthday honours recognises high-profile Australians including Tony Abbott, Bronwyn Bishop and Marcia Langtonhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-07/tony-abbott-scores-queens-birthday-top-honour/12330492
And all I can say is “It’s about time”.
I’m not sure what tony has done that warrants an honour….
knighted the prince, gotta keep it in the family you know
Not Sir Tony, I couldn’t stand it. His ago will get bigger, he will need 2 “over size” cars front and back when driving around.
Tau.Neutrino said:
sibeen said:
Queen’s Birthday honours recognises high-profile Australians including Tony Abbott, Bronwyn Bishop and Marcia Langtonhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-07/tony-abbott-scores-queens-birthday-top-honour/12330492
And all I can say is “It’s about time”.
There’s nothing honourable about Tony Abbott and Bronwyn Bishop.
Marcia Langton is more honourable than both of those two put together.
Never heard of her.
sibeen said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
sibeen said:
Queen’s Birthday honours recognises high-profile Australians including Tony Abbott, Bronwyn Bishop and Marcia Langtonhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-07/tony-abbott-scores-queens-birthday-top-honour/12330492
And all I can say is “It’s about time”.
There’s nothing honourable about Tony Abbott and Bronwyn Bishop.
Marcia Langton is more honourable than both of those two put together.
Never heard of her.
:(
sibeen said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
sibeen said:
Queen’s Birthday honours recognises high-profile Australians including Tony Abbott, Bronwyn Bishop and Marcia Langtonhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-07/tony-abbott-scores-queens-birthday-top-honour/12330492
And all I can say is “It’s about time”.
There’s nothing honourable about Tony Abbott and Bronwyn Bishop.
Marcia Langton is more honourable than both of those two put together.
Never heard of her.
Jesus fucking Christ
Yeah fuck it that might as well happen
dv said:
sibeen said:
Tau.Neutrino said:There’s nothing honourable about Tony Abbott and Bronwyn Bishop.
Marcia Langton is more honourable than both of those two put together.
Never heard of her.
Jesus fucking Christ
Yeah fuck it that might as well happen
shrug
I’ve just looked at her wiki page. Doesn’t ring a bell at all. I suspect that would be the case for >95% of Australians. The again I’d never heard of Tiffany Trump until today either.
sibeen said:
dv said:
sibeen said:Never heard of her.
Jesus fucking Christ
Yeah fuck it that might as well happen
shrug
I’ve just looked at her wiki page. Doesn’t ring a bell at all. I suspect that would be the case for >95% of Australians. The again I’d never heard of Tiffany Trump until today either.
All that Guardian reading for nothing…
Thanks god every day her father forgets she exists…
dv said:
sibeen said:
Tau.Neutrino said:There’s nothing honourable about Tony Abbott and Bronwyn Bishop.
Marcia Langton is more honourable than both of those two put together.
Never heard of her.
Jesus fucking Christ
Yeah fuck it that might as well happen
TBF, Aboriginal health is still absolutely shithouse, so….
Don’t hate me, I’m just doing a joke. My sense of humour is so dark the American police would kneel on its neck. I care.
Rule 303 said:
dv said:
sibeen said:Never heard of her.
Jesus fucking Christ
Yeah fuck it that might as well happen
TBF, Aboriginal health is still absolutely shithouse, so….
Don’t hate me, I’m just doing a joke. My sense of humour is so dark the American police would kneel on its neck. I care.
ah we must be one of those shithole countries the USSAoles talk about
SCIENCE said:
dv said:Jesus fucking Christ
Yeah fuck it that might as well happen
ah we must be one of those shithole countries the USSAoles talk about
I see the world has passed 400,000 deaths from Covid-19, with the daily case figures still climbing.
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:
dv said:Jesus fucking Christ
Yeah fuck it that might as well happen
shrug
I’ve just looked at her wiki page. Doesn’t ring a bell at all. I suspect that would be the case for >95% of Australians. The again I’d never heard of Tiffany Trump until today either.
All that Guardian reading for nothing…
My jfc call was not about Marcia
dv said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:shrug
I’ve just looked at her wiki page. Doesn’t ring a bell at all. I suspect that would be the case for >95% of Australians. The again I’d never heard of Tiffany Trump until today either.
All that Guardian reading for nothing…
My jfc call was not about Marcia
ROFL..
If you think I was serious about Tony and Brony then lordy, lordy, lordy, I don’t know what to think.
SCIENCE said:
ah we must be one of those shithole countries the USSAoles talk about
That’s what an American said when i posted a remark on another forum.
I was able to point out to him/her (with reference to more than one survey) that my country consistently rated in the top 5 for living standard, whereas the US rated 18th or 19th. Best rating for the US was 13th in one survey.
Tensegrity table
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 2 degrees, very still and getting light. We are forecast a partly cloudy 12 degrees and a -1 tomorrow morning with frost.
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:ah we must be one of those shithole countries the USSAoles talk about
That’s what an American said when i posted a remark on another forum.
I was able to point out to him/her (with reference to more than one survey) that my country consistently rated in the top 5 for living standard, whereas the US rated 18th or 19th. Best rating for the US was 13th in one survey.
Oh the arrogance.
furious said:
SCIENCE said:
furious said:I’m not sure what tony has done that warrants an honour….
knighted the prince, gotta keep it in the family you know
So, it is some exclusive game of tag?
When hasn’t it been?
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:
Tau.Neutrino said:There’s nothing honourable about Tony Abbott and Bronwyn Bishop.
Marcia Langton is more honourable than both of those two put together.
Never heard of her.
:(
Yes it is sad.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tensegrity table
Quite nice, but I wouldn’t want to stand on it.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tensegrity table
Quite nice, but I wouldn’t want to stand on it.
Looks like it should be hanging from the ceiling and called a mobile.
Tau.Neutrino said:
sibeen said:
Queen’s Birthday honours recognises high-profile Australians including Tony Abbott, Bronwyn Bishop and Marcia Langtonhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-07/tony-abbott-scores-queens-birthday-top-honour/12330492
And all I can say is “It’s about time”.
There’s nothing honourable about Tony Abbott and Bronwyn Bishop.
Marcia Langton is more honourable than both of those two put together.
Well even Tone and Bron are more honourable separately than when put together.
As for the rights and wrongs of it, Tone was a pm, and retired pms get honoured, but I see no excuses for Bron.
sibeen said:
dv said:
Witty Rejoinder said:All that Guardian reading for nothing…
My jfc call was not about Marcia
ROFL..
If you think I was serious about Tony and Brony then lordy, lordy, lordy, I don’t know what to think.
Well it’s hard times you know.
Maybe we should all club together and buy dv a new irony detector.
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:
dv said:My jfc call was not about Marcia
ROFL..
If you think I was serious about Tony and Brony then lordy, lordy, lordy, I don’t know what to think.
Well it’s hard times you know.
Maybe we should all club together and buy dv a new irony detector.
I’ve learned to take everything said here through my own irony detector.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
sibeen said:
Queen’s Birthday honours recognises high-profile Australians including Tony Abbott, Bronwyn Bishop and Marcia Langtonhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-07/tony-abbott-scores-queens-birthday-top-honour/12330492
And all I can say is “It’s about time”.
There’s nothing honourable about Tony Abbott and Bronwyn Bishop.
Marcia Langton is more honourable than both of those two put together.
Well even Tone and Bron are more honourable separately than when put together.
As for the rights and wrongs of it, Tone was a pm, and retired pms get honoured, but I see no excuses for Bron.
I was amused by the comment from the libs that Bron was a pioneer of women in politics.
Mitt Romney has marched with the protesters.
Picked up a couple of cans of Cachet cat food for 60 cents each.
Rubbish.
Don’t buy it for your cat.
roughbarked said:
Mitt Romney has marched with the protesters.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2020/06/07/dc-protests-sunday-george-floyd/
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
Mitt Romney has marched with the protesters.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2020/06/07/dc-protests-sunday-george-floyd/
We only need some of the republicans to move. In order to depose Trump ignominiously.
This isn’t me but it could easily be.
This man said; “I have no intention of posting a tutorial about this procedure; I can only say that it is REALLY dangerous and not for the faint of heart!”

roughbarked said:
This isn’t me but it could easily be.
This man said; “I have no intention of posting a tutorial about this procedure; I can only say that it is REALLY dangerous and not for the faint of heart!”
I used to make nitroglycerine to power my cracker gun. By comparison his procedure isn’t all that dangerous.
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
This isn’t me but it could easily be.
This man said; “I have no intention of posting a tutorial about this procedure; I can only say that it is REALLY dangerous and not for the faint of heart!”
I used to make nitroglycerine to power my cracker gun. By comparison his procedure isn’t all that dangerous.
This be true.
roughbarked said:
Picked up a couple of cans of Cachet cat food for 60 cents each.
Rubbish.
Don’t buy it for your cat.
Reasons?
All the cats that enter my yard avoid it like the plague.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
Picked up a couple of cans of Cachet cat food for 60 cents each.
Rubbish.
Don’t buy it for your cat.
Reasons?
All the cats that enter my yard avoid it like the plague.
Even the meat ants didn’t go for it.
Morning Pilgrims, nothing to report except………. nah wont mention that.
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning Pilgrims, nothing to report except………. nah wont mention that.
Assume we all have TMI moments.
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning Pilgrims, nothing to report except………. nah wont mention that.
Go on, you know you want to.
Greetings
roughbarked said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning Pilgrims, nothing to report except………. nah wont mention that.
Assume we all have TMI moments.
Well it’s just my disappointment in being overlooked again this year.
Peak Warming Man said:
roughbarked said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning Pilgrims, nothing to report except………. nah wont mention that.
Assume we all have TMI moments.
Well it’s just my disappointment in being overlooked again this year.
hopefully it wasn’t because of the file i gave the committee about you.
Bogsnorkler said:
Peak Warming Man said:
roughbarked said:Assume we all have TMI moments.
Well it’s just my disappointment in being overlooked again this year.
hopefully it wasn’t because of the file i gave the committee about you.
Bastard.
who’s putting the kettle on, nah i’ll do’t, stay seated
yawn
In other news I checked to see if it is a public holiday in Queensland but instead of using a hardcopy real calendar I decided to see if by using the internet that everybody is talking about could tell me.
Sure enough I got the answer immediately and it wasn’t too bad, it certainly got the month right.

We watched a documentary on SBS last night – 1491 The untold story of the Americas.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5957066/plotsummary?ref_=tt_ov_pl
I see it’s an 8 part series. As the first episode was on origins, migration waves and stuff, I was surprised to find no mention of the genetic similarities of some Amazon people to Australian Aborigines and New Guineans. I just checked. That stuff was written up in 2015 and the doco was made in 2017. Perhaps they will get to it in the second episode.
We also both noticed that our sense of timeline has changed. We don’t think 5,000 years is a long time in this household. We thought the same thing when we watched the Egypt documentaries. Every time they give information about “so long ago” and it turns out to be 5,000 to 10,000 years, we immediately think – and? What about 40,000 to 60,000? Such youngsters!
Peak Warming Man said:
In other news I checked to see if it is a public holiday in Queensland but instead of using a hardcopy real calendar I decided to see if by using the internet that everybody is talking about could tell me.
Sure enough I got the answer immediately and it wasn’t too bad, it certainly got the month right.
![]()
How many birthdays does the woman have altogether?
buffy said:
We watched a documentary on SBS last night – 1491 The untold story of the Americas.https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5957066/plotsummary?ref_=tt_ov_pl
I see it’s an 8 part series. As the first episode was on origins, migration waves and stuff, I was surprised to find no mention of the genetic similarities of some Amazon people to Australian Aborigines and New Guineans. I just checked. That stuff was written up in 2015 and the doco was made in 2017. Perhaps they will get to it in the second episode.
We also both noticed that our sense of timeline has changed. We don’t think 5,000 years is a long time in this household. We thought the same thing when we watched the Egypt documentaries. Every time they give information about “so long ago” and it turns out to be 5,000 to 10,000 years, we immediately think – and? What about 40,000 to 60,000? Such youngsters!
Its not that long ago even if you take into account the appearance of modern humans on the scene.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:
In other news I checked to see if it is a public holiday in Queensland but instead of using a hardcopy real calendar I decided to see if by using the internet that everybody is talking about could tell me.
Sure enough I got the answer immediately and it wasn’t too bad, it certainly got the month right.
![]()
How many birthdays does the woman have altogether?
Not as many as some.
Cymek said:
buffy said:
We watched a documentary on SBS last night – 1491 The untold story of the Americas.https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5957066/plotsummary?ref_=tt_ov_pl
I see it’s an 8 part series. As the first episode was on origins, migration waves and stuff, I was surprised to find no mention of the genetic similarities of some Amazon people to Australian Aborigines and New Guineans. I just checked. That stuff was written up in 2015 and the doco was made in 2017. Perhaps they will get to it in the second episode.
We also both noticed that our sense of timeline has changed. We don’t think 5,000 years is a long time in this household. We thought the same thing when we watched the Egypt documentaries. Every time they give information about “so long ago” and it turns out to be 5,000 to 10,000 years, we immediately think – and? What about 40,000 to 60,000? Such youngsters!
Its not that long ago even if you take into account the appearance of modern humans on the scene.
I was previously unaware of a genetic link between Amazon people and Aboriginal people. Can you provide a reference, please?
dv said:
Cymek said:
buffy said:
We watched a documentary on SBS last night – 1491 The untold story of the Americas.https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5957066/plotsummary?ref_=tt_ov_pl
I see it’s an 8 part series. As the first episode was on origins, migration waves and stuff, I was surprised to find no mention of the genetic similarities of some Amazon people to Australian Aborigines and New Guineans. I just checked. That stuff was written up in 2015 and the doco was made in 2017. Perhaps they will get to it in the second episode.
We also both noticed that our sense of timeline has changed. We don’t think 5,000 years is a long time in this household. We thought the same thing when we watched the Egypt documentaries. Every time they give information about “so long ago” and it turns out to be 5,000 to 10,000 years, we immediately think – and? What about 40,000 to 60,000? Such youngsters!
Its not that long ago even if you take into account the appearance of modern humans on the scene.
I was previously unaware of a genetic link between Amazon people and Aboriginal people. Can you provide a reference, please?
People have snu snu with each other and then migrating elsewhere it seems
dv said:
Cymek said:
buffy said:
We watched a documentary on SBS last night – 1491 The untold story of the Americas.https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5957066/plotsummary?ref_=tt_ov_pl
I see it’s an 8 part series. As the first episode was on origins, migration waves and stuff, I was surprised to find no mention of the genetic similarities of some Amazon people to Australian Aborigines and New Guineans. I just checked. That stuff was written up in 2015 and the doco was made in 2017. Perhaps they will get to it in the second episode.
We also both noticed that our sense of timeline has changed. We don’t think 5,000 years is a long time in this household. We thought the same thing when we watched the Egypt documentaries. Every time they give information about “so long ago” and it turns out to be 5,000 to 10,000 years, we immediately think – and? What about 40,000 to 60,000? Such youngsters!
Its not that long ago even if you take into account the appearance of modern humans on the scene.
I was previously unaware of a genetic link between Amazon people and Aboriginal people. Can you provide a reference, please?
And how are the adventures of Thor Heyerdahl viewed by those in the know these days?
Could the early inhabitants of the Pacific have done the same trick in reverse?
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
Cymek said:Its not that long ago even if you take into account the appearance of modern humans on the scene.
I was previously unaware of a genetic link between Amazon people and Aboriginal people. Can you provide a reference, please?
And how are the adventures of Thor Heyerdahl viewed by those in the know these days?
Could the early inhabitants of the Pacific have done the same trick in reverse?
and
This site:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oldest_known_surviving_buildings#By_continent
lists the oldest known building in Australia as built in 1629 AD (by ship-wrecked Europeans).
Are there really no indigenous structures that count as a “building”?
The Rev Dodgson said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:I was previously unaware of a genetic link between Amazon people and Aboriginal people. Can you provide a reference, please?
And how are the adventures of Thor Heyerdahl viewed by those in the know these days?
Could the early inhabitants of the Pacific have done the same trick in reverse?
and
This site:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oldest_known_surviving_buildings#By_continentlists the oldest known building in Australia as built in 1629 AD (by ship-wrecked Europeans).
Are there really no indigenous structures that count as a “building”?
of course not, we civilised them
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
Cymek said:Its not that long ago even if you take into account the appearance of modern humans on the scene.
I was previously unaware of a genetic link between Amazon people and Aboriginal people. Can you provide a reference, please?
And how are the adventures of Thor Heyerdahl viewed by those in the know these days?
Could the early inhabitants of the Pacific have done the same trick in reverse?
They did.
Snack time
The Rev Dodgson said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:I was previously unaware of a genetic link between Amazon people and Aboriginal people. Can you provide a reference, please?
And how are the adventures of Thor Heyerdahl viewed by those in the know these days?
Could the early inhabitants of the Pacific have done the same trick in reverse?
and
This site:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oldest_known_surviving_buildings#By_continentlists the oldest known building in Australia as built in 1629 AD (by ship-wrecked Europeans).
Are there really no indigenous structures that count as a “building”?
Stone huts they did build.
SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
The Rev Dodgson said:And how are the adventures of Thor Heyerdahl viewed by those in the know these days?
Could the early inhabitants of the Pacific have done the same trick in reverse?
and
This site:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oldest_known_surviving_buildings#By_continentlists the oldest known building in Australia as built in 1629 AD (by ship-wrecked Europeans).
Are there really no indigenous structures that count as a “building”?
of course not, we civilised them
Although there are renains/ruins of Aboriginal structures built prior to Janszplanation, none of them could be considered an intact building.
dv said:
SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:and
This site:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oldest_known_surviving_buildings#By_continentlists the oldest known building in Australia as built in 1629 AD (by ship-wrecked Europeans).
Are there really no indigenous structures that count as a “building”?
of course not, we civilised them
Although there are renains/ruins of Aboriginal structures built prior to Janszplanation, none of them could be considered an intact building.
http://ergo.slv.vic.gov.au/image/aboriginal-village-stone-houses
dv said:
Hi Matt.
George Washington owned black slaves.
It’s going to be a big job, I suppose we can start at Mount Rushmore.
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
Hi Matt.
George Washington owned black slaves.
It’s going to be a big job, I suppose we can start at Mount Rushmore.
Surely there are some minerals to be mined there?
roughbarked said:
dv said:
SCIENCE said:of course not, we civilised them
Although there are renains/ruins of Aboriginal structures built prior to Janszplanation, none of them could be considered an intact building.
http://ergo.slv.vic.gov.au/image/aboriginal-village-stone-houses
Mouse over that image embiggens a moveable window.
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
Hi Matt.
George Washington owned black slaves.
It’s going to be a big job, I suppose we can start at Mount Rushmore.
He later became troubled with the institution of slavery and freed his slaves in a 1799 will.
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning Pilgrims, nothing to report except………. nah wont mention that.
It’s to stop you rolling out of bed.
Cymek said:
![]()
Snack time
Aww! I love guinea pigs and rabbits!
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:I was previously unaware of a genetic link between Amazon people and Aboriginal people. Can you provide a reference, please?
And how are the adventures of Thor Heyerdahl viewed by those in the know these days?
Could the early inhabitants of the Pacific have done the same trick in reverse?
They did.
You seem awfully sure about that.
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:And how are the adventures of Thor Heyerdahl viewed by those in the know these days?
Could the early inhabitants of the Pacific have done the same trick in reverse?
They did.
You seem awfully sure about that.
Yep. They knew how to tack.
Good morning.
Been busy this morning. Donated Mini Me’s baby stuff to the op shop. The guy who owns it is very nice. He said people tell him horror stories about other op shops; having worked in a couple of them, I can relate. The ‘staff’ seem to think that they don’t have to do anything or be nice to people because they are volunteers, not getting paid to do things or be nice.
Also took some double-ups of Mini Me’s books to the street library at daycare, where I discovered people have adult fiction in there as well as kids’ books, so when my book is finally published I can stick a copy or two in there.
Updated at 10:50 EST
5.5°C
Gorgeous day out there for penguins.
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:They did.
You seem awfully sure about that.
Yep. They knew how to tack.
“Dr Erika Hagelberg, of the department of genetics at Cambridge University, has spent the past eight years studying the mitochondrial DNA – passed down through the maternal line – of Polynesians, who moved into the western Pacific about 1,500 years ago, and the Melanesians, who were the first to migrate there during the Pleistocene era about 60,000 years ago.
“There are two groups of populations which moved into the area, but both ultimately came from Asia,” Dr Hagelberg said yesterday. “The Melanesians could have been one of the first migrations of modern humans out of Africa.” They appear to have reached New Guinea, where they settled. The Polynesians then followed, and colonised New Zealand, Hawaii and Easter Island itself.
Determining the origins of populations by analysing mitochondrial DNA is done by first assuming that mutations in the sequence of the DNA arise at a specific rate but differently for different people. So two populations which evolve apart will have dissimilar sequences of mitochondrial DNA. That means you can distinguish where the DNA found in skeletons originated from, by comparing it with that from modern-day populations and also ancient DNA of known origins. And in the case of Easter Island’s original settlers, it turns out that their common ancestor comes from South-East Asia – not South America.
Professor Heyerdahl has counter-claimed that the real first settlers cremated their dead, which would destroy any potential evidence. But Dr Hagelberg disputes this. “I can look at the DNA in the bones. I’ve examined a couple of hundred skeletons. It just takes patience and attention to detail.”
Her work was done in collaboration with teams in Oxford, Holland and Australia and presented yesterday at a seminar at the Natural History Museum, organised by the Natural Environment Research Council, looking at “ancient biomolecules”.”
Divine Angel said:
Cymek said:
![]()
Snack time
Aww! I love guinea pigs and rabbits!
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
dv said:Although there are renains/ruins of Aboriginal structures built prior to Janszplanation, none of them could be considered an intact building.
http://ergo.slv.vic.gov.au/image/aboriginal-village-stone-houses
Mouse over that image embiggens a moveable window.
Nice link.
Anything similar for evidence of occupation of S America from the Pacific?
Cymek said:
Divine Angel said:
Cymek said:
![]()
Snack time
Aww! I love guinea pigs and rabbits!
They seem to be as capable as geckoes.
Divine Angel said:
Good morning.Been busy this morning. Donated Mini Me’s baby stuff to the op shop. The guy who owns it is very nice. He said people tell him horror stories about other op shops; having worked in a couple of them, I can relate. The ‘staff’ seem to think that they don’t have to do anything or be nice to people because they are volunteers, not getting paid to do things or be nice.
Also took some double-ups of Mini Me’s books to the street library at daycare, where I discovered people have adult fiction in there as well as kids’ books, so when my book is finally published I can stick a copy or two in there.
Nice. Is today a public holiday in Qunslnd?
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
Good morning.Been busy this morning. Donated Mini Me’s baby stuff to the op shop. The guy who owns it is very nice. He said people tell him horror stories about other op shops; having worked in a couple of them, I can relate. The ‘staff’ seem to think that they don’t have to do anything or be nice to people because they are volunteers, not getting paid to do things or be nice.
Also took some double-ups of Mini Me’s books to the street library at daycare, where I discovered people have adult fiction in there as well as kids’ books, so when my book is finally published I can stick a copy or two in there.
Nice. Is today a public holiday in Qunslnd?
No. We get our Queen’s Birthday in October.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:You seem awfully sure about that.
Yep. They knew how to tack.
“Dr Erika Hagelberg, of the department of genetics at Cambridge University, has spent the past eight years studying the mitochondrial DNA – passed down through the maternal line – of Polynesians, who moved into the western Pacific about 1,500 years ago, and the Melanesians, who were the first to migrate there during the Pleistocene era about 60,000 years ago.
“There are two groups of populations which moved into the area, but both ultimately came from Asia,” Dr Hagelberg said yesterday. “The Melanesians could have been one of the first migrations of modern humans out of Africa.” They appear to have reached New Guinea, where they settled. The Polynesians then followed, and colonised New Zealand, Hawaii and Easter Island itself.
Determining the origins of populations by analysing mitochondrial DNA is done by first assuming that mutations in the sequence of the DNA arise at a specific rate but differently for different people. So two populations which evolve apart will have dissimilar sequences of mitochondrial DNA. That means you can distinguish where the DNA found in skeletons originated from, by comparing it with that from modern-day populations and also ancient DNA of known origins. And in the case of Easter Island’s original settlers, it turns out that their common ancestor comes from South-East Asia – not South America.
Professor Heyerdahl has counter-claimed that the real first settlers cremated their dead, which would destroy any potential evidence. But Dr Hagelberg disputes this. “I can look at the DNA in the bones. I’ve examined a couple of hundred skeletons. It just takes patience and attention to detail.”
Her work was done in collaboration with teams in Oxford, Holland and Australia and presented yesterday at a seminar at the Natural History Museum, organised by the Natural Environment Research Council, looking at “ancient biomolecules”.”
Thanks, all good stuff.
But it doesn’t actually say anything about Polynesians occupying S America.
Let alone Melanesians.
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:Yep. They knew how to tack.
“Dr Erika Hagelberg, of the department of genetics at Cambridge University, has spent the past eight years studying the mitochondrial DNA – passed down through the maternal line – of Polynesians, who moved into the western Pacific about 1,500 years ago, and the Melanesians, who were the first to migrate there during the Pleistocene era about 60,000 years ago.
“There are two groups of populations which moved into the area, but both ultimately came from Asia,” Dr Hagelberg said yesterday. “The Melanesians could have been one of the first migrations of modern humans out of Africa.” They appear to have reached New Guinea, where they settled. The Polynesians then followed, and colonised New Zealand, Hawaii and Easter Island itself.
Determining the origins of populations by analysing mitochondrial DNA is done by first assuming that mutations in the sequence of the DNA arise at a specific rate but differently for different people. So two populations which evolve apart will have dissimilar sequences of mitochondrial DNA. That means you can distinguish where the DNA found in skeletons originated from, by comparing it with that from modern-day populations and also ancient DNA of known origins. And in the case of Easter Island’s original settlers, it turns out that their common ancestor comes from South-East Asia – not South America.
Professor Heyerdahl has counter-claimed that the real first settlers cremated their dead, which would destroy any potential evidence. But Dr Hagelberg disputes this. “I can look at the DNA in the bones. I’ve examined a couple of hundred skeletons. It just takes patience and attention to detail.”
Her work was done in collaboration with teams in Oxford, Holland and Australia and presented yesterday at a seminar at the Natural History Museum, organised by the Natural Environment Research Council, looking at “ancient biomolecules”.”
Thanks, all good stuff.
But it doesn’t actually say anything about Polynesians occupying S America.
Let alone Melanesians.
No.
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:Yep. They knew how to tack.
“Dr Erika Hagelberg, of the department of genetics at Cambridge University, has spent the past eight years studying the mitochondrial DNA – passed down through the maternal line – of Polynesians, who moved into the western Pacific about 1,500 years ago, and the Melanesians, who were the first to migrate there during the Pleistocene era about 60,000 years ago.
“There are two groups of populations which moved into the area, but both ultimately came from Asia,” Dr Hagelberg said yesterday. “The Melanesians could have been one of the first migrations of modern humans out of Africa.” They appear to have reached New Guinea, where they settled. The Polynesians then followed, and colonised New Zealand, Hawaii and Easter Island itself.
Determining the origins of populations by analysing mitochondrial DNA is done by first assuming that mutations in the sequence of the DNA arise at a specific rate but differently for different people. So two populations which evolve apart will have dissimilar sequences of mitochondrial DNA. That means you can distinguish where the DNA found in skeletons originated from, by comparing it with that from modern-day populations and also ancient DNA of known origins. And in the case of Easter Island’s original settlers, it turns out that their common ancestor comes from South-East Asia – not South America.
Professor Heyerdahl has counter-claimed that the real first settlers cremated their dead, which would destroy any potential evidence. But Dr Hagelberg disputes this. “I can look at the DNA in the bones. I’ve examined a couple of hundred skeletons. It just takes patience and attention to detail.”
Her work was done in collaboration with teams in Oxford, Holland and Australia and presented yesterday at a seminar at the Natural History Museum, organised by the Natural Environment Research Council, looking at “ancient biomolecules”.”
Thanks, all good stuff.
But it doesn’t actually say anything about Polynesians occupying S America.
Let alone Melanesians.
Could change the search phrase. I simply asked, was Thor Heyerdahl wrong?
Sorry Mrs Queen, but I have work to do.
Divine Angel said:
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
Good morning.Been busy this morning. Donated Mini Me’s baby stuff to the op shop. The guy who owns it is very nice. He said people tell him horror stories about other op shops; having worked in a couple of them, I can relate. The ‘staff’ seem to think that they don’t have to do anything or be nice to people because they are volunteers, not getting paid to do things or be nice.
Also took some double-ups of Mini Me’s books to the street library at daycare, where I discovered people have adult fiction in there as well as kids’ books, so when my book is finally published I can stick a copy or two in there.
Nice. Is today a public holiday in Qunslnd?
No. We get our Queen’s Birthday in October.
Interesting.
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
Rule 303 said:Nice. Is today a public holiday in Qunslnd?
No. We get our Queen’s Birthday in October.
Interesting.
She’s got almost as many birthdays as Boris.
roughbarked said:
Cymek said:
Divine Angel said:Aww! I love guinea pigs and rabbits!
![]()
![]()
They seem to be as capable as geckoes.
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:“Dr Erika Hagelberg, of the department of genetics at Cambridge University, has spent the past eight years studying the mitochondrial DNA – passed down through the maternal line – of Polynesians, who moved into the western Pacific about 1,500 years ago, and the Melanesians, who were the first to migrate there during the Pleistocene era about 60,000 years ago.
“There are two groups of populations which moved into the area, but both ultimately came from Asia,” Dr Hagelberg said yesterday. “The Melanesians could have been one of the first migrations of modern humans out of Africa.” They appear to have reached New Guinea, where they settled. The Polynesians then followed, and colonised New Zealand, Hawaii and Easter Island itself.
Determining the origins of populations by analysing mitochondrial DNA is done by first assuming that mutations in the sequence of the DNA arise at a specific rate but differently for different people. So two populations which evolve apart will have dissimilar sequences of mitochondrial DNA. That means you can distinguish where the DNA found in skeletons originated from, by comparing it with that from modern-day populations and also ancient DNA of known origins. And in the case of Easter Island’s original settlers, it turns out that their common ancestor comes from South-East Asia – not South America.
Professor Heyerdahl has counter-claimed that the real first settlers cremated their dead, which would destroy any potential evidence. But Dr Hagelberg disputes this. “I can look at the DNA in the bones. I’ve examined a couple of hundred skeletons. It just takes patience and attention to detail.”
Her work was done in collaboration with teams in Oxford, Holland and Australia and presented yesterday at a seminar at the Natural History Museum, organised by the Natural Environment Research Council, looking at “ancient biomolecules”.”
Thanks, all good stuff.
But it doesn’t actually say anything about Polynesians occupying S America.
Let alone Melanesians.
Could change the search phrase. I simply asked, was Thor Heyerdahl wrong?
I just checked on the original Thor Heyerdahl, and found he died in 2002 (age 87).
He had two sons, at least one of whom is also into his father’s explorations, but neither are considered wiki-worthy.
Divine Angel said:
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:No. We get our Queen’s Birthday in October.
Interesting.
She’s got almost as many birthdays as Boris.
She shares her real one with BigSisRule, so there’s that.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
sibeen said:
Queen’s Birthday honours recognises high-profile Australians including Tony Abbott, Bronwyn Bishop and Marcia Langtonhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-07/tony-abbott-scores-queens-birthday-top-honour/12330492
And all I can say is “It’s about time”.
There’s nothing honourable about Tony Abbott and Bronwyn Bishop.
Marcia Langton is more honourable than both of those two put together.
Well even Tone and Bron are more honourable separately than when put together.
As for the rights and wrongs of it, Tone was a pm, and retired pms get honoured, but I see no excuses for Bron.
One of my friends posted on facebook..
>An hour ago, the Queen’s Birthday honours list was released. This is my mum. One of the most incredible, influential and unassuming people I know. She receives one of the highest honours available and I know will be uncomfortable about it because all she’s ever done is things for other people and actively downplayed her work.
I know my mum for two things… This level of work, and her absolutely hilarious and blunt observations of the world around her.
I’ve learned both have come from growing up in post WW2 Poland, literally fleeing communism, teaching herself better English than we all know and quietly working on life changing research, seeking nothing in return.
I’m so proud of my mum for doing all the things she’s done. I can only be the self entitled sarcastic asshole I am because of all she’s done for me. I can only hope to create half of the positive impact she has. I’m also really happy they spelled her name correctly.

sarahs mum said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Tau.Neutrino said:There’s nothing honourable about Tony Abbott and Bronwyn Bishop.
Marcia Langton is more honourable than both of those two put together.
Well even Tone and Bron are more honourable separately than when put together.
As for the rights and wrongs of it, Tone was a pm, and retired pms get honoured, but I see no excuses for Bron.
One of my friends posted on facebook..
>An hour ago, the Queen’s Birthday honours list was released. This is my mum. One of the most incredible, influential and unassuming people I know. She receives one of the highest honours available and I know will be uncomfortable about it because all she’s ever done is things for other people and actively downplayed her work.
I know my mum for two things… This level of work, and her absolutely hilarious and blunt observations of the world around her.
I’ve learned both have come from growing up in post WW2 Poland, literally fleeing communism, teaching herself better English than we all know and quietly working on life changing research, seeking nothing in return.
I’m so proud of my mum for doing all the things she’s done. I can only be the self entitled sarcastic asshole I am because of all she’s done for me. I can only hope to create half of the positive impact she has. I’m also really happy they spelled her name correctly.
Good on her.
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:Yep. They knew how to tack.
“Dr Erika Hagelberg, of the department of genetics at Cambridge University, has spent the past eight years studying the mitochondrial DNA – passed down through the maternal line – of Polynesians, who moved into the western Pacific about 1,500 years ago, and the Melanesians, who were the first to migrate there during the Pleistocene era about 60,000 years ago.
“There are two groups of populations which moved into the area, but both ultimately came from Asia,” Dr Hagelberg said yesterday. “The Melanesians could have been one of the first migrations of modern humans out of Africa.” They appear to have reached New Guinea, where they settled. The Polynesians then followed, and colonised New Zealand, Hawaii and Easter Island itself.
Determining the origins of populations by analysing mitochondrial DNA is done by first assuming that mutations in the sequence of the DNA arise at a specific rate but differently for different people. So two populations which evolve apart will have dissimilar sequences of mitochondrial DNA. That means you can distinguish where the DNA found in skeletons originated from, by comparing it with that from modern-day populations and also ancient DNA of known origins. And in the case of Easter Island’s original settlers, it turns out that their common ancestor comes from South-East Asia – not South America.
Professor Heyerdahl has counter-claimed that the real first settlers cremated their dead, which would destroy any potential evidence. But Dr Hagelberg disputes this. “I can look at the DNA in the bones. I’ve examined a couple of hundred skeletons. It just takes patience and attention to detail.”
Her work was done in collaboration with teams in Oxford, Holland and Australia and presented yesterday at a seminar at the Natural History Museum, organised by the Natural Environment Research Council, looking at “ancient biomolecules”.”
Thanks, all good stuff.
But it doesn’t actually say anything about Polynesians occupying S America.
Let alone Melanesians.
I think we can knock that on the head. Other genetic studies have been done in South America and have found trace of Polynesian ancestry in the DNA patterns there. It is possible they may have sailed there and traded on a limited basis, but not enough to show up any genetic admixture.
sarahs mum said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Tau.Neutrino said:There’s nothing honourable about Tony Abbott and Bronwyn Bishop.
Marcia Langton is more honourable than both of those two put together.
Well even Tone and Bron are more honourable separately than when put together.
As for the rights and wrongs of it, Tone was a pm, and retired pms get honoured, but I see no excuses for Bron.
One of my friends posted on facebook..
>An hour ago, the Queen’s Birthday honours list was released. This is my mum. One of the most incredible, influential and unassuming people I know. She receives one of the highest honours available and I know will be uncomfortable about it because all she’s ever done is things for other people and actively downplayed her work.
I know my mum for two things… This level of work, and her absolutely hilarious and blunt observations of the world around her.
I’ve learned both have come from growing up in post WW2 Poland, literally fleeing communism, teaching herself better English than we all know and quietly working on life changing research, seeking nothing in return.
I’m so proud of my mum for doing all the things she’s done. I can only be the self entitled sarcastic asshole I am because of all she’s done for me. I can only hope to create half of the positive impact she has. I’m also really happy they spelled her name correctly.
:)
A lovely tribute to her mum.
The Rev Dodgson said:
sarahs mum said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Well even Tone and Bron are more honourable separately than when put together.
As for the rights and wrongs of it, Tone was a pm, and retired pms get honoured, but I see no excuses for Bron.
One of my friends posted on facebook..
>An hour ago, the Queen’s Birthday honours list was released. This is my mum. One of the most incredible, influential and unassuming people I know. She receives one of the highest honours available and I know will be uncomfortable about it because all she’s ever done is things for other people and actively downplayed her work.
I know my mum for two things… This level of work, and her absolutely hilarious and blunt observations of the world around her.
I’ve learned both have come from growing up in post WW2 Poland, literally fleeing communism, teaching herself better English than we all know and quietly working on life changing research, seeking nothing in return.
I’m so proud of my mum for doing all the things she’s done. I can only be the self entitled sarcastic asshole I am because of all she’s done for me. I can only hope to create half of the positive impact she has. I’m also really happy they spelled her name correctly.
:)
A lovely tribute to her mum.
Indeed. They made mums stronger in those days.
Minneapolis City Council members pledge to disband police force in wake of George Floyd death
Struth.
Rule 303 said:
Minneapolis City Council members pledge to disband police force in wake of George Floyd deathStruth.
Clearly something had to be done.
Rule 303 said:
Minneapolis City Council members pledge to disband police force in wake of George Floyd deathStruth.
I wish them all the best of luck with that. Can’t see how to handle such a transition myself, but good on them for giving it a go.
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:
Minneapolis City Council members pledge to disband police force in wake of George Floyd deathStruth.
I wish them all the best of luck with that. Can’t see how to handle such a transition myself, but good on them for giving it a go.
I’ve seen it done with emergency services in Australia. Not exactly sure what their structure is (in Minneapolis) so I would be guessing on their plan, but in most areas the authority will carve up the area and give it to the neighbouring agencies to look after until they’re back on their feet.
roughbarked said:
Indeed. They made mums stronger in those days.
Jesus fucking christ.
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:
Minneapolis City Council members pledge to disband police force in wake of George Floyd deathStruth.
I wish them all the best of luck with that. Can’t see how to handle such a transition myself, but good on them for giving it a go.
Will be an interesting experiment if it every can get past the ethics committee. I suspect the result would also be quite unsatisfying but I’ve been known to be wrong on occasion.
Arts said:
roughbarked said:Indeed. They made mums stronger in those days.
Jesus fucking christ.
Some people read and get depressed. Others say JFC.
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:
Minneapolis City Council members pledge to disband police force in wake of George Floyd deathStruth.
I wish them all the best of luck with that. Can’t see how to handle such a transition myself, but good on them for giving it a go.
I’ve seen it done with emergency services in Australia. Not exactly sure what their structure is (in Minneapolis) so I would be guessing on their plan, but in most areas the authority will carve up the area and give it to the neighbouring agencies to look after until they’re back on their feet.
Ok. So in the meantime they sack everybody and recruit and train a whole new set of officers?
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:
Minneapolis City Council members pledge to disband police force in wake of George Floyd deathStruth.
I wish them all the best of luck with that. Can’t see how to handle such a transition myself, but good on them for giving it a go.
Will be an interesting experiment if it every can get past the ethics committee. I suspect the result would also be quite unsatisfying but I’ve been known to be wrong on occasion.
It’s not as though there will be zero policing.
“Nine of the council’s 12 members appeared at a rally in a city park on Sunday afternoon local time and vowed to end the current system of policing in the city. They pledged to instead invest in a community-based public safety model, but did not provide specific details.”
Tear it down, start afresh. It’s an extreme option but sometimes the culture can’t be fixed incrementally.
sibeen said:
… but I’ve been known to be wrong on occasion.
surely not.
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:I wish them all the best of luck with that. Can’t see how to handle such a transition myself, but good on them for giving it a go.
I’ve seen it done with emergency services in Australia. Not exactly sure what their structure is (in Minneapolis) so I would be guessing on their plan, but in most areas the authority will carve up the area and give it to the neighbouring agencies to look after until they’re back on their feet.
Ok. So in the meantime they sack everybody and recruit and train a whole new set of officers?
Given the unemployment rate in the US, now’s the time.
party_pants said:
sibeen said:… but I’ve been known to be wrong on occasion.
surely not.
I mean, having posted this, he must have at least been wrong once, even if this is the only time.
Of course, that means he’s right this time.
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:
roughbarked said:Indeed. They made mums stronger in those days.
Jesus fucking christ.
Some people read and get depressed. Others say JFC.
since I had to revive Mr arts I have no fucks left to give.. so I am saying the things I need to say…
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:I wish them all the best of luck with that. Can’t see how to handle such a transition myself, but good on them for giving it a go.
I’ve seen it done with emergency services in Australia. Not exactly sure what their structure is (in Minneapolis) so I would be guessing on their plan, but in most areas the authority will carve up the area and give it to the neighbouring agencies to look after until they’re back on their feet.
Ok. So in the meantime they sack everybody and recruit and train a whole new set of officers?
On Friday, the council approved an agreement to ban the use of police chokeholds and neck restraints in response to the killing of Floyd with the state’s department of human rights, which also requires officers to intervene anytime they seen an unauthorized use of force.
When pressed by CNN for details on what a city with a defunded police department might look like, Bender told the network that funding would be shifted to other needs.
“The idea of having no police department is certainly not in the short term,” Bender said.
From the Gran.
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:I’ve seen it done with emergency services in Australia. Not exactly sure what their structure is (in Minneapolis) so I would be guessing on their plan, but in most areas the authority will carve up the area and give it to the neighbouring agencies to look after until they’re back on their feet.
Ok. So in the meantime they sack everybody and recruit and train a whole new set of officers?
On Friday, the council approved an agreement to ban the use of police chokeholds and neck restraints in response to the killing of Floyd with the state’s department of human rights, which also requires officers to intervene anytime they seen an unauthorized use of force.
When pressed by CNN for details on what a city with a defunded police department might look like, Bender told the network that funding would be shifted to other needs.
“The idea of having no police department is certainly not in the short term,” Bender said.
From the Gran.
This could be interesting to watch. I’m glad I’m at a safe distance.
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:Ok. So in the meantime they sack everybody and recruit and train a whole new set of officers?
On Friday, the council approved an agreement to ban the use of police chokeholds and neck restraints in response to the killing of Floyd with the state’s department of human rights, which also requires officers to intervene anytime they seen an unauthorized use of force.
When pressed by CNN for details on what a city with a defunded police department might look like, Bender told the network that funding would be shifted to other needs.
“The idea of having no police department is certainly not in the short term,” Bender said.
From the Gran.
This could be interesting to watch. I’m glad I’m at a safe distance.
Like those bystanders that got shot at by the National Guard in the other thread?
dv said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:I wish them all the best of luck with that. Can’t see how to handle such a transition myself, but good on them for giving it a go.
Will be an interesting experiment if it every can get past the ethics committee. I suspect the result would also be quite unsatisfying but I’ve been known to be wrong on occasion.
It’s not as though there will be zero policing.
“Nine of the council’s 12 members appeared at a rally in a city park on Sunday afternoon local time and vowed to end the current system of policing in the city. They pledged to instead invest in a community-based public safety model, but did not provide specific details.”Tear it down, start afresh. It’s an extreme option but sometimes the culture can’t be fixed incrementally.
maybe they could have a Social Credit system, take the human fallibilities out of it
poikilotherm said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:On Friday, the council approved an agreement to ban the use of police chokeholds and neck restraints in response to the killing of Floyd with the state’s department of human rights, which also requires officers to intervene anytime they seen an unauthorized use of force.
When pressed by CNN for details on what a city with a defunded police department might look like, Bender told the network that funding would be shifted to other needs.
“The idea of having no police department is certainly not in the short term,” Bender said.
From the Gran.
This could be interesting to watch. I’m glad I’m at a safe distance.
Like those bystanders that got shot at by the National Guard in the other thread?
No, not like them at all. Like…. something else.
But who knows, they might nail it and come up with a model that really works, which might be worth implementing in other places.
Arts said:
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:Jesus fucking christ.
Some people read and get depressed. Others say JFC.
since I had to revive Mr arts I have no fucks left to give.. so I am saying the things I need to say…
You’re a hero.
(I was reflecting about the abusive qualities of my ‘stronger’ mother. Again.)
George Floyd Independent Autopsy DRAMATICALLY Different from County’s Medical Examiner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhLXsMk3snk
—-
Arts…have you read of both autopsies by any chance?
sarahs mum said:
George Floyd Independent Autopsy DRAMATICALLY Different from County’s Medical Examiner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhLXsMk3snk—-
Arts…have you read of both autopsies by any chance?
I have not.. I’m knee deep in dick pics.
sarahs mum said:
George Floyd Independent Autopsy DRAMATICALLY Different from County’s Medical Examiner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhLXsMk3snk—-
Arts…have you read of both autopsies by any chance?
I have read that the coroners autopsy and the independent autopsy do not agree.
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:I wish them all the best of luck with that. Can’t see how to handle such a transition myself, but good on them for giving it a go.
I’ve seen it done with emergency services in Australia. Not exactly sure what their structure is (in Minneapolis) so I would be guessing on their plan, but in most areas the authority will carve up the area and give it to the neighbouring agencies to look after until they’re back on their feet.
Ok. So in the meantime they sack everybody and recruit and train a whole new set of officers?
Yeah, agencies (like all areas of human activity) fall over occasionally, so this stuff goes on all the time. If you look closely you will find many agencies are so under-equipped, under-funded, under-staffed, un-available, or simply incompetent that arrangements that should only be for unusual situations, are in fact permanent.
They can borrow people and assets, hand areas over to their neighbours, go into a ‘dual-response’ arrangement with another agency, have other people come in and babysit their area, hand some of their roles over to other agencies, split roles between agencies by time of day, or (depending on the role, obviously) simply stop providing service within the area. I am often involved in these things in Victoria, and occasionally in NSW, QLD and SA, which is part of how I get out to visit the countryside so often.
dv said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:I wish them all the best of luck with that. Can’t see how to handle such a transition myself, but good on them for giving it a go.
Will be an interesting experiment if it every can get past the ethics committee. I suspect the result would also be quite unsatisfying but I’ve been known to be wrong on occasion.
It’s not as though there will be zero policing.
“Nine of the council’s 12 members appeared at a rally in a city park on Sunday afternoon local time and vowed to end the current system of policing in the city. They pledged to instead invest in a community-based public safety model, but did not provide specific details.”Tear it down, start afresh. It’s an extreme option but sometimes the culture can’t be fixed incrementally.
Did the rioters burn down their shed?
Rule 303 said:
dv said:
sibeen said:Will be an interesting experiment if it every can get past the ethics committee. I suspect the result would also be quite unsatisfying but I’ve been known to be wrong on occasion.
It’s not as though there will be zero policing.
“Nine of the council’s 12 members appeared at a rally in a city park on Sunday afternoon local time and vowed to end the current system of policing in the city. They pledged to instead invest in a community-based public safety model, but did not provide specific details.”Tear it down, start afresh. It’s an extreme option but sometimes the culture can’t be fixed incrementally.
Did the rioters burn down their shed?
Shed?
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:I’ve seen it done with emergency services in Australia. Not exactly sure what their structure is (in Minneapolis) so I would be guessing on their plan, but in most areas the authority will carve up the area and give it to the neighbouring agencies to look after until they’re back on their feet.
Ok. So in the meantime they sack everybody and recruit and train a whole new set of officers?
On Friday, the council approved an agreement to ban the use of police chokeholds and neck restraints in response to the killing of Floyd with the state’s department of human rights, which also requires officers to intervene anytime they seen an unauthorized use of force.
When pressed by CNN for details on what a city with a defunded police department might look like, Bender told the network that funding would be shifted to other needs.
“The idea of having no police department is certainly not in the short term,” Bender said.
From the Gran.
I would not interpret that as withdrawing service.
Arts said:
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:Jesus fucking christ.
Some people read and get depressed. Others say JFC.
since I had to revive Mr arts I have no fucks left to give.. so I am saying the things I need to say…
>TwoThumbsUp<
Arts said:
sarahs mum said:
George Floyd Independent Autopsy DRAMATICALLY Different from County’s Medical Examiner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhLXsMk3snk—-
Arts…have you read of both autopsies by any chance?
I have not.. I’m knee deep in dick pics.
As usual. Ho-hum.
dv said:
Rule 303 said:
dv said:It’s not as though there will be zero policing.
“Nine of the council’s 12 members appeared at a rally in a city park on Sunday afternoon local time and vowed to end the current system of policing in the city. They pledged to instead invest in a community-based public safety model, but did not provide specific details.”Tear it down, start afresh. It’s an extreme option but sometimes the culture can’t be fixed incrementally.
Did the rioters burn down their shed?
Shed?
dv said:
Rule 303 said:
dv said:It’s not as though there will be zero policing.
“Nine of the council’s 12 members appeared at a rally in a city park on Sunday afternoon local time and vowed to end the current system of policing in the city. They pledged to instead invest in a community-based public safety model, but did not provide specific details.”Tear it down, start afresh. It’s an extreme option but sometimes the culture can’t be fixed incrementally.
Did the rioters burn down their shed?
Shed?
Base. Office. Camp… Whatever.
Rule 303 said:
dv said:
Rule 303 said:Did the rioters burn down their shed?
Shed?
Base. Office. Camp… Whatever.
Is ‘facility’ the word you’re searching for?
Rule 303 said:
dv said:
Rule 303 said:Did the rioters burn down their shed?
Shed?
Base. Office. Camp… Whatever.
It’s like that time we went burning down the fire-fighter homes while they’re out saving ours, made us all safer from bushfires in the future!
captain_spalding said:
Rule 303 said:
dv said:Shed?
Base. Office. Camp… Whatever.
Is ‘facility’ the word you’re searching for?
complex
SCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:
Rule 303 said:Base. Office. Camp… Whatever.
Is ‘facility’ the word you’re searching for?
complex
I thought it was rather easy.
captain_spalding said:
Rule 303 said:
dv said:Shed?
Base. Office. Camp… Whatever.
Is ‘facility’ the word you’re searching for?
Tamb said:
captain_spalding said:
Rule 303 said:Base. Office. Camp… Whatever.
Is ‘facility’ the word you’re searching for?
No. Too American.
How about ‘installation’?
SCIENCE said:
Rule 303 said:
dv said:Shed?
Base. Office. Camp… Whatever.
It’s like that time we went burning down the fire-fighter homes while they’re out saving ours, made us all safer from bushfires in the future!
No, it is like the fire brigade went around setting people’s houses on fire so we disbanded them.
captain_spalding said:
Tamb said:
captain_spalding said:Is ‘facility’ the word you’re searching for?
No. Too American.How about ‘installation’?
Too British.
:P
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:
Tamb said:No. Too American.
How about ‘installation’?
Too British.
:P
Kampong?
captain_spalding said:
Tamb said:
captain_spalding said:Is ‘facility’ the word you’re searching for?
No. Too American.How about ‘installation’?
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:How about ‘installation’?
Too British.
:P
Kampong?
Tamb said:
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:Too British.
:P
Kampong?
Presses “Like” button.
Kampong ladies sing their song, doodah, doodah
Kampong racists five miles long, oh doodah day
Tamb said:
captain_spalding said:
Tamb said:No. Too American.
How about ‘installation’?
Too arty.
“Police Officer Station “ Arlo Guthrie Alice’s Restaurant
kryten said:
Tamb said:
captain_spalding said:How about ‘installation’?
Too arty.“Police Officer Station “ Arlo Guthrie Alice’s Restaurant
Twenty-seven 8 times 10 colored glossy pictures.
Tamb said:
kryten said:
Tamb said:Too arty.
“Police Officer Station “ Arlo Guthrie Alice’s Restaurant
Twenty-seven 8 times 10 colored glossy pictures.
That’s it
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:
roughbarked said:Indeed. They made mums stronger in those days.
Jesus fucking christ.
Some people read and get depressed. Others say JFC.
Sorry for any pain that may have been caused.
party_pants said:
SCIENCE said:
Rule 303 said:Base. Office. Camp… Whatever.
It’s like that time we went burning down the fire-fighter homes while they’re out saving ours, made us all safer from bushfires in the future!
No, it is like the fire brigade went around setting people’s houses on fire so we disbanded them.
Ah yes we may have read a book about something like that once, can’t seem to find it again though, might have been the recent fires, something about drifters and rebuilding society and what was that again, drifting from the constitution or something.
kryten said:
Tamb said:
kryten said:“Police Officer Station “ Arlo Guthrie Alice’s Restaurant
Twenty-seven 8 times 10 colored glossy pictures.
That’s it
Police public call box
SCIENCE said:
party_pants said:
SCIENCE said:It’s like that time we went burning down the fire-fighter homes while they’re out saving ours, made us all safer from bushfires in the future!
No, it is like the fire brigade went around setting people’s houses on fire so we disbanded them.
Ah yes we may have read a book about something like that once, can’t seem to find it again though, might have been the recent fires, something about drifters and rebuilding society and what was that again, drifting from the constitution or something.
Five Get Into A Fix
dv said:
Cymek said:
buffy said:
We watched a documentary on SBS last night – 1491 The untold story of the Americas.https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5957066/plotsummary?ref_=tt_ov_pl
I see it’s an 8 part series. As the first episode was on origins, migration waves and stuff, I was surprised to find no mention of the genetic similarities of some Amazon people to Australian Aborigines and New Guineans. I just checked. That stuff was written up in 2015 and the doco was made in 2017. Perhaps they will get to it in the second episode.
We also both noticed that our sense of timeline has changed. We don’t think 5,000 years is a long time in this household. We thought the same thing when we watched the Egypt documentaries. Every time they give information about “so long ago” and it turns out to be 5,000 to 10,000 years, we immediately think – and? What about 40,000 to 60,000? Such youngsters!
Its not that long ago even if you take into account the appearance of modern humans on the scene.
I was previously unaware of a genetic link between Amazon people and Aboriginal people. Can you provide a reference, please?
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/dna-search-first-americans-links-amazon-indigenous-australians-180955976/
(Sorry, I’ve been mucking about outside in the chook pen and garden)
Arts said:
sarahs mum said:
George Floyd Independent Autopsy DRAMATICALLY Different from County’s Medical Examiner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhLXsMk3snk—-
Arts…have you read of both autopsies by any chance?
I have not.. I’m knee deep in dick pics.
What?
Eyes pop.
captain_spalding said:
Rule 303 said:
dv said:Shed?
Base. Office. Camp… Whatever.
Is ‘facility’ the word you’re searching for?
Sure. Whatever swizzles your stick.
Rule 303 said:
captain_spalding said:
Rule 303 said:Base. Office. Camp… Whatever.
Is ‘facility’ the word you’re searching for?
Sure. Whatever swizzles your stick.
Tamb said:
Rule 303 said:
captain_spalding said:Is ‘facility’ the word you’re searching for?
Sure. Whatever swizzles your stick.
Precinct.
FTR, I wasn’t searching for a word. “Shed” covers it just fine.
Rule 303 said:
Tamb said:
Rule 303 said:Sure. Whatever swizzles your stick.
Precinct.FTR, I wasn’t searching for a word. “Shed” covers it just fine.
Gunya.
roughbarked said:
Rule 303 said:
Tamb said:Precinct.
FTR, I wasn’t searching for a word. “Shed” covers it just fine.
Gunya.
or gunyah.
Rule 303 said:
Tamb said:
Rule 303 said:Sure. Whatever swizzles your stick.
Precinct.FTR, I wasn’t searching for a word. “Shed” covers it just fine.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
Rule 303 said:FTR, I wasn’t searching for a word. “Shed” covers it just fine.
Gunya.
or gunyah.
Unbelieveit, the worlds gone mad.
A once respected dealership is offering haircuts to get punters in.
Credibility -> zero.
Arts said:
That’s just terrible
I see Jacinta’s pulling out the chocks and sending NZ back into full flight from Tuesday, having apparently eradicated Covid-19 from the country.
Good on her.
I’ve spent the past two nights sleeping on the couch because of Mr Mutant’s snoring. He’s usually pretty bad but he has a cold right now so it’s unbearable.
I just sent him an email (although he’s at the opposite end of the house) with the subject title “I want to invite Nora into our bed”.
https://www.smartnora.com/
buffy said:
dv said:
Cymek said:Its not that long ago even if you take into account the appearance of modern humans on the scene.
I was previously unaware of a genetic link between Amazon people and Aboriginal people. Can you provide a reference, please?
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/dna-search-first-americans-links-amazon-indigenous-australians-180955976/
(Sorry, I’ve been mucking about outside in the chook pen and garden)
Nice one.
:)
Michael V said:
buffy said:
dv said:I was previously unaware of a genetic link between Amazon people and Aboriginal people. Can you provide a reference, please?
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/dna-search-first-americans-links-amazon-indigenous-australians-180955976/
(Sorry, I’ve been mucking about outside in the chook pen and garden)
Nice one.
:)
Thanks for the link. Interesting.
Divine Angel said:
I’ve spent the past two nights sleeping on the couch because of Mr Mutant’s snoring. He’s usually pretty bad but he has a cold right now so it’s unbearable.I just sent him an email (although he’s at the opposite end of the house) with the subject title “I want to invite Nora into our bed”.
https://www.smartnora.com/
$US359 !
8-/
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
I’ve spent the past two nights sleeping on the couch because of Mr Mutant’s snoring. He’s usually pretty bad but he has a cold right now so it’s unbearable.I just sent him an email (although he’s at the opposite end of the house) with the subject title “I want to invite Nora into our bed”.
https://www.smartnora.com/
$US359 !
8-/
I found an Australian site where you can get it for $359AUD
dv said:
Arts said:
That’s just terrible
on the up side.. NZ is now virus free… which is great for them.
Arts said:
LOLOLOLOL
Michael V said:
buffy said:
dv said:I was previously unaware of a genetic link between Amazon people and Aboriginal people. Can you provide a reference, please?
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/dna-search-first-americans-links-amazon-indigenous-australians-180955976/
(Sorry, I’ve been mucking about outside in the chook pen and garden)
Nice one.
:)
:)
Divine Angel said:
I’ve spent the past two nights sleeping on the couch because of Mr Mutant’s snoring. He’s usually pretty bad but he has a cold right now so it’s unbearable.I just sent him an email (although he’s at the opposite end of the house) with the subject title “I want to invite Nora into our bed”.
https://www.smartnora.com/
Is he overweight without being rude, I found my snoring has reduced a lot since some weight.
After having been on +- 2hr remaining for the past 3 hrs, while % downloaded went from 5% to 57%, the “time remaining” is finally starting to reduce.
It’s almost as if MS Windows doesn’t know how to divide MB remaining by MB/time to get time.
The Rev Dodgson said:
After having been on +- 2hr remaining for the past 3 hrs, while % downloaded went from 5% to 57%, the “time remaining” is finally starting to reduce.It’s almost as if MS Windows doesn’t know how to divide MB remaining by MB/time to get time.
What are you downloading?
Ntshingwayo kaMahole of the Khoza was a Zulu commander and the orchestrator of perhaps the largest defeat ever inflicted on British forces by an indigenous army, in the battle of Battle of Isandlwana.
Here he is at age 70 shortly before that battle.

He was ultimately killed by anti-royalists a few years later.
dv said:
Ntshingwayo kaMahole of the Khoza was a Zulu commander and the orchestrator of perhaps the largest defeat ever inflicted on British forces by an indigenous army, in the battle of Battle of Isandlwana.Here he is at age 70 shortly before that battle.
He was ultimately killed by anti-royalists a few years later.

Arts said:
They were constitutional experts the month before the ‘Rona virus.
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
After having been on +- 2hr remaining for the past 3 hrs, while % downloaded went from 5% to 57%, the “time remaining” is finally starting to reduce.It’s almost as if MS Windows doesn’t know how to divide MB remaining by MB/time to get time.
What are you downloading?
FreeCAD
Only 486 MB, but dead slow download for some reason.
party_pants said:
Arts said:
They were constitutional experts the month before the ‘Rona virus.
How quickly we forget the bushfires.
party_pants said:
Arts said:
They were constitutional experts the month before the ‘Rona virus.
I really think this is a stupid sentiment. It is extremely easy to become well-informed these days.
Speaking of which, WTF is the point of ‘Australia’ versions of spellcheck if they don’t recognise words like ‘bushfire’ and such?
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:
Arts said:
They were constitutional experts the month before the ‘Rona virus.
How quickly we forget the bushfires.
I was talking about the ‘merican context.
In Aus yes, the bushfire expert was probably more prominent than the US Constitutional expert, as was the Women’s cricket expert (remember the Cricket World Cup for women?)
dv said:
party_pants said:
Arts said:
They were constitutional experts the month before the ‘Rona virus.
I really think this is a stupid sentiment. It is extremely easy to become well-informed these days.
It is very easy, but few seemed to take that option before posting on social media.
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:They were constitutional experts the month before the ‘Rona virus.
How quickly we forget the bushfires.
I was talking about the ‘merican context.
In Aus yes, the bushfire expert was probably more prominent than the US Constitutional expert, as was the Women’s cricket expert (remember the Cricket World Cup for women?)
I would answer but I’m scared of Arts now. Can somebody find out if she’s a Cricket fan or not?
Rule 303 said:
Speaking of which, WTF is the point of ‘Australia’ versions of spellcheck if they don’t recognise words like ‘bushfire’ and such?
Does seem a little odd.
I’d like to know what genius at MS decided that the whole world has gone back to using “letter” sized paper, rather than A4.
Rule 303 said:
Speaking of which, WTF is the point of ‘Australia’ versions of spellcheck if they don’t recognise words like ‘bushfire’ and such?
It’s kind of baffling. You can include every word in the English language in any dialect and still come in under 5 MB.
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:They were constitutional experts the month before the ‘Rona virus.
How quickly we forget the bushfires.
I was talking about the ‘merican context.
In Aus yes, the bushfire expert was probably more prominent than the US Constitutional expert, as was the Women’s cricket expert (remember the Cricket World Cup for women?)
Yes. The last major sporting event before we were all told to go home and wait.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Rule 303 said:
Speaking of which, WTF is the point of ‘Australia’ versions of spellcheck if they don’t recognise words like ‘bushfire’ and such?
Does seem a little odd.
I’d like to know what genius at MS decided that the whole world has gone back to using “letter” sized paper, rather than A4.
>nods<
GMTS.
Michael V said:
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:How quickly we forget the bushfires.
I was talking about the ‘merican context.
In Aus yes, the bushfire expert was probably more prominent than the US Constitutional expert, as was the Women’s cricket expert (remember the Cricket World Cup for women?)
Yes. The last major sporting event before we were all told to go home and wait.
There was a Covid scare as a result of the final, someone in the members tested positive the following day.
The Rev Dodgson said:
After having been on +- 2hr remaining for the past 3 hrs, while % downloaded went from 5% to 57%, the “time remaining” is finally starting to reduce.It’s almost as if MS Windows doesn’t know how to divide MB remaining by MB/time to get time.
maybe instantaneous nor average rate turn out to be good estimators
dv said:
party_pants said:
Arts said:
They were constitutional experts the month before the ‘Rona virus.
I really think this is a stupid sentiment. It is extremely easy to become well-informed these days.
unless you’re actually the “experts” employed to advise ministry, and then it’s almost guaranteed you’re pouring out the bullshit
party_pants said:
Michael V said:
party_pants said:I was talking about the ‘merican context.
In Aus yes, the bushfire expert was probably more prominent than the US Constitutional expert, as was the Women’s cricket expert (remember the Cricket World Cup for women?)
Yes. The last major sporting event before we were all told to go home and wait.
There was a Covid scare as a result of the final, someone in the members tested positive the following day.
I was annoyed that they didn’t televise the whole thing. Only the games they felt we needed to know about…
Mind you, it’s a bit like that with women’s cricket…
dv said:
party_pants said:
Arts said:
They were constitutional experts the month before the ‘Rona virus.
I really think this is a stupid sentiment. It is extremely easy to become well-informed these days.
that’s what the antivaxxers think too.
I’ll be back soon, I’m making this:
https://www.cookwithmanali.com/sweet-spicy-tomato-chutney/
I’ve almost got the tomato step done.
Arts said:
dv said:
party_pants said:They were constitutional experts the month before the ‘Rona virus.
I really think this is a stupid sentiment. It is extremely easy to become well-informed these days.
that’s what the antivaxxers think too.
Speaking of which did any y’all catch Pete Evans on ’60 Minutes’ last night?
Witty Rejoinder said:
Arts said:
dv said:I really think this is a stupid sentiment. It is extremely easy to become well-informed these days.
that’s what the antivaxxers think too.
Speaking of which did any y’all catch Pete Evans on ’60 Minutes’ last night?
Oh hellaciously nay
dv said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Arts said:that’s what the antivaxxers think too.
Speaking of which did any y’all catch Pete Evans on ’60 Minutes’ last night?
Oh hellaciously nay
+1.
neither PE nor 60 mins is Worth watching these days.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Arts said:
dv said:I really think this is a stupid sentiment. It is extremely easy to become well-informed these days.
that’s what the antivaxxers think too.
Speaking of which did any y’all catch Pete Evans on ’60 Minutes’ last night?
Not me.
Rule 303 said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Rule 303 said:
Speaking of which, WTF is the point of ‘Australia’ versions of spellcheck if they don’t recognise words like ‘bushfire’ and such?
Does seem a little odd.
I’d like to know what genius at MS decided that the whole world has gone back to using “letter” sized paper, rather than A4.
>nods<
GMTS.
Utilisez le Système International d’Unités ou mourez, foutreurs des meres!
I’m finding it a bit difficult seeing lots of ads for tradies (hairdressers, chefs, building etc) because I think each ad probably means the person who vacated the position has been forced to walk away from their trade by the shut-down. That’s difficult shit…
:-(
Arts said:
dv said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Speaking of which did any y’all catch Pete Evans on ’60 Minutes’ last night?
Oh hellaciously nay
+1.
neither PE nor 60 mins is Worth watching these days.
IWA.
Arts said:
dv said:
party_pants said:They were constitutional experts the month before the ‘Rona virus.
I really think this is a stupid sentiment. It is extremely easy to become well-informed these days.
that’s what the antivaxxers think too.
Yes, unfortunately.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Arts said:
dv said:I really think this is a stupid sentiment. It is extremely easy to become well-informed these days.
that’s what the antivaxxers think too.
Speaking of which did any y’all catch Pete Evans on ’60 Minutes’ last night?
No.
Arts said:
dv said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Speaking of which did any y’all catch Pete Evans on ’60 Minutes’ last night?
Oh hellaciously nay
+1.
neither PE nor 60 mins is Worth watching these days.
I only caught the ad but PE warns that if he were to befall some accident it would be by nefarious means. Who knew that paleo seems to cause paranoia?.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Speaking of which did any y’all catch Pete Evans on ’60 Minutes’ last night?
nobody willing to admit it so far …. :)
Witty Rejoinder said:
Arts said:
dv said:Oh hellaciously nay
+1.
neither PE nor 60 mins is Worth watching these days.
I only caught the ad but PE warns that if he were to befall some accident it would be by nefarious means. Who knew that paleo seems to cause paranoia?.
everyone… I mean I haven’t done any formal studies on it, but anecdotally, every person that I know that is paleo or vegan is also a conspiracy theorist, antivaxxer, flatearther or any combination of them.
SCIENCE said:
Rule 303 said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Does seem a little odd.
I’d like to know what genius at MS decided that the whole world has gone back to using “letter” sized paper, rather than A4.
>nods<
GMTS.
Utilisez le Système International d’Unités ou mourez, foutreurs des meres!
Michael V said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Arts said:that’s what the antivaxxers think too.
Speaking of which did any y’all catch Pete Evans on ’60 Minutes’ last night?
No.
Arts said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Arts said:+1.
neither PE nor 60 mins is Worth watching these days.
I only caught the ad but PE warns that if he were to befall some accident it would be by nefarious means. Who knew that paleo seems to cause paranoia?.
everyone… I mean I haven’t done any formal studies on it, but anecdotally, every person that I know that is paleo or vegan is also a conspiracy theorist, antivaxxer, flatearther or any combination of them.
Tamb said:
Arts said:
Witty Rejoinder said:I only caught the ad but PE warns that if he were to befall some accident it would be by nefarious means. Who knew that paleo seems to cause paranoia?.
everyone… I mean I haven’t done any formal studies on it, but anecdotally, every person that I know that is paleo or vegan is also a conspiracy theorist, antivaxxer, flatearther or any combination of them.
A vegan I know drinks wine. He was peeved to find out it took the lives of countless yeast organisms to make it.
Animals are multicellular. Yeast are not animals.
party_pants said:
Tamb said:
Arts said:everyone… I mean I haven’t done any formal studies on it, but anecdotally, every person that I know that is paleo or vegan is also a conspiracy theorist, antivaxxer, flatearther or any combination of them.
A vegan I know drinks wine. He was peeved to find out it took the lives of countless yeast organisms to make it.Animals are multicellular. Yeast are not animals.
All Cells Matter.
party_pants said:
Tamb said:
Arts said:everyone… I mean I haven’t done any formal studies on it, but anecdotally, every person that I know that is paleo or vegan is also a conspiracy theorist, antivaxxer, flatearther or any combination of them.
A vegan I know drinks wine. He was peeved to find out it took the lives of countless yeast organisms to make it.Animals are multicellular. Yeast are not animals.
Tamb said:
Arts said:
Witty Rejoinder said:I only caught the ad but PE warns that if he were to befall some accident it would be by nefarious means. Who knew that paleo seems to cause paranoia?.
everyone… I mean I haven’t done any formal studies on it, but anecdotally, every person that I know that is paleo or vegan is also a conspiracy theorist, antivaxxer, flatearther or any combination of them.
A vegan I know drinks wine. He was peeved to find out it took the lives of countless yeast organisms to make it.
seriously though why is murdering blacks plants considered acceptable whereas the killing of cisgender white males other organisms is an absolute violation of human rights the constitution
Witty Rejoinder said:
party_pants said:
Tamb said:A vegan I know drinks wine. He was peeved to find out it took the lives of countless yeast organisms to make it.
Animals are multicellular. Yeast are not animals.
All Cells Matter.
No. They eat plants.
Tamb said:
SCIENCE said:
Rule 303 said:>nods<
GMTS.
Utilisez le Système International d’Unités ou mourez, foutreurs des meres!
pdf’s are in letter size until you tweak the printer program.
Depends who made them.
MS Office Aus version at one time had A4 as the default page size, but they have now gone back to “letter” size as the default.
party_pants said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
party_pants said:Animals are multicellular. Yeast are not animals.
All Cells Matter.
No. They eat plants.
Tamb said:
party_pants said:
Witty Rejoinder said:All Cells Matter.
No. They eat plants.
Cells is a bad choice of words in the present climate.
in cells
Tamb said:
party_pants said:
Tamb said:A vegan I know drinks wine. He was peeved to find out it took the lives of countless yeast organisms to make it.
Animals are multicellular. Yeast are not animals.
Vegans don’t drink milk so yeast is no stretch.
Vegans don’t drink milk because it comes from a cow or goat (or similar approved) kept by humans for the specific purpose.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Tamb said:
SCIENCE said:Utilisez le Système International d’Unités ou mourez, foutreurs des meres!
pdf’s are in letter size until you tweak the printer program.Depends who made them.
MS Office Aus version at one time had A4 as the default page size, but they have now gone back to “letter” size as the default.
LOL You mean people still use that junk?
Tamb said:
party_pants said:
Tamb said:A vegan I know drinks wine. He was peeved to find out it took the lives of countless yeast organisms to make it.
Animals are multicellular. Yeast are not animals.
Vegans don’t drink milk so yeast is no stretch.
They don’t drink milk because milk production involves the killing of cattle.
Veganism has a much sounder ethical basis than vegetarianism. It’s just less convenient.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Tamb said:
SCIENCE said:Utilisez le Système International d’Unités ou mourez, foutreurs des meres!
pdf’s are in letter size until you tweak the printer program.Depends who made them.
MS Office Aus version at one time had A4 as the default page size, but they have now gone back to “letter” size as the default.
btm said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Tamb said:pdf’s are in letter size until you tweak the printer program.
Depends who made them.
MS Office Aus version at one time had A4 as the default page size, but they have now gone back to “letter” size as the default.
LOL You mean people still use that junk?
What junk?
SCIENCE said:
Tamb said:
party_pants said:No. They eat plants.
Cells is a bad choice of words in the present climate.in cells
Being in cells is where the cops can get at you.
The Rev Dodgson said:
btm said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Depends who made them.
MS Office Aus version at one time had A4 as the default page size, but they have now gone back to “letter” size as the default.
LOL You mean people still use that junk?
What junk?
ms office
btm said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
btm said:LOL You mean people still use that junk?
What junk?
ms office
btm said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Tamb said:pdf’s are in letter size until you tweak the printer program.
Depends who made them.
MS Office Aus version at one time had A4 as the default page size, but they have now gone back to “letter” size as the default.
LOL You mean people still use that junk?
grabs popcorn
btm said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
btm said:LOL You mean people still use that junk?
What junk?
ms office
Yes, MS Office remains by far the most widely used office software package.
The Rev Dodgson said:
btm said:
The Rev Dodgson said:What junk?
ms office
Yes, MS Office remains by far the most widely used office software package.
Ref?
Tamb said:
btm said:
The Rev Dodgson said:What junk?
ms office
Is there a more convenient option?
Only in a similar way that Bing is a better option than Google for Internet search purposes.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Tamb said:
party_pants said:Animals are multicellular. Yeast are not animals.
Vegans don’t drink milk so yeast is no stretch.They don’t drink milk because milk production involves the killing of cattle.
wait, what? I thought it was because you are using cows for personal human gain… or taking the milk away from the calf or some such… who kills cattle to get milk?
btm said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
btm said:ms office
Yes, MS Office remains by far the most widely used office software package.
Ref?
The Internet.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Tamb said:
party_pants said:Animals are multicellular. Yeast are not animals.
Vegans don’t drink milk so yeast is no stretch.They don’t drink milk because milk production involves the killing of cattle.
Veganism has a much sounder ethical basis than vegetarianism. It’s just less convenient.
I think it is more that the animal is being exploited for human purposes which are “unnatural”, which does not necessarily require killing.
Arts said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Tamb said:Vegans don’t drink milk so yeast is no stretch.
They don’t drink milk because milk production involves the killing of cattle.
wait, what? I thought it was because you are using cows for personal human gain… or taking the milk away from the calf or some such… who kills cattle to get milk?
What dairy producer keeps feeding all bulls and old age cows until they die a natural death?
Incidentally, Rev, I just downloaded FreeCAD source, Linux appImage, Windows portable, and Windows installer, FC versions 0.18.4 and 0.19 prerelease (8 files) in parallel in a little (not much) less than 20 minutes. Is your internet connection working properly?
The Rev Dodgson said:
btm said:
The Rev Dodgson said:What junk?
ms office
Yes, MS Office remains by far the most widely used office software package.
My quadcore linux setup running 11 virtual machines emulating an old Amstrad word processor says NO!
party_pants said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Tamb said:Vegans don’t drink milk so yeast is no stretch.
They don’t drink milk because milk production involves the killing of cattle.
Veganism has a much sounder ethical basis than vegetarianism. It’s just less convenient.
I think it is more that the animal is being exploited for human purposes which are “unnatural”, which does not necessarily require killing.
No doubt different vegans have different reasons.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Tamb said:
btm said:ms office
Is there a more convenient option?Only in a similar way that Bing is a better option than Google for Internet search purposes.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Arts said:
The Rev Dodgson said:They don’t drink milk because milk production involves the killing of cattle.
wait, what? I thought it was because you are using cows for personal human gain… or taking the milk away from the calf or some such… who kills cattle to get milk?
What dairy producer keeps feeding all bulls and old age cows until they die a natural death?
I just thought they were slaughtered unless they won some first prize at the Ag Show.
The Rev Dodgson said:
party_pants said:
The Rev Dodgson said:They don’t drink milk because milk production involves the killing of cattle.
Veganism has a much sounder ethical basis than vegetarianism. It’s just less convenient.
I think it is more that the animal is being exploited for human purposes which are “unnatural”, which does not necessarily require killing.
No doubt different vegans have different reasons.
that is unacceptable… splinter vegan groups! what next?!
The Rev Dodgson said:
Tamb said:
party_pants said:Animals are multicellular. Yeast are not animals.
Vegans don’t drink milk so yeast is no stretch.They don’t drink milk because milk production involves the killing of cattle.
Veganism has a much sounder ethical basis than vegetarianism. It’s just less convenient.
They reckon there’s a lot more to it than just killing cattle:

Arts said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
party_pants said:I think it is more that the animal is being exploited for human purposes which are “unnatural”, which does not necessarily require killing.
No doubt different vegans have different reasons.
that is unacceptable… splinter vegan groups! what next?!
The Rev Dodgson said:
Arts said:
The Rev Dodgson said:They don’t drink milk because milk production involves the killing of cattle.
wait, what? I thought it was because you are using cows for personal human gain… or taking the milk away from the calf or some such… who kills cattle to get milk?
What dairy producer keeps feeding all bulls and old age cows until they die a natural death?
Many, many cultures around the world keep cows for milk, dung, work, and breeding for profit until they are very old, then take the meat / leather / bones etc after the animal dies.
This thing is on the surfcam at the end of my road.
Orca?

Rule 303 said:
This thing is on the surfcam at the end of my road.Orca?
‘Harold Holt: The Journey Home’.
Rule 303 said:
This thing is on the surfcam at the end of my road.Orca?
Witty Rejoinder said:
Arts said:
dv said:I really think this is a stupid sentiment. It is extremely easy to become well-informed these days.
that’s what the antivaxxers think too.
Speaking of which did any y’all catch Pete Evans on ’60 Minutes’ last night?
Only you, apparently.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Rule 303 said:
This thing is on the surfcam at the end of my road.Orca?
‘Harold Holt: The Journey Home’.
btm said:
Incidentally, Rev, I just downloaded FreeCAD source, Linux appImage, Windows portable, and Windows installer, FC versions 0.18.4 and 0.19 prerelease (8 files) in parallel in a little (not much) less than 20 minutes. Is your internet connection working properly?
Seems OK otherwise.
On 96% now, so I’ll just keep going.
Arts said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Arts said:+1.
neither PE nor 60 mins is Worth watching these days.
I only caught the ad but PE warns that if he were to befall some accident it would be by nefarious means. Who knew that paleo seems to cause paranoia?.
everyone… I mean I haven’t done any formal studies on it, but anecdotally, every person that I know that is paleo or vegan is also a conspiracy theorist, antivaxxer, flatearther or any combination of them.
And then there are the ketoists. Or perhaps it’s basically the same thing…
Tamb said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Rule 303 said:
This thing is on the surfcam at the end of my road.Orca?
‘Harold Holt: The Journey Home’.
Looking again it’s a different Gunnamatta.
Yeah, this one’s the surf beach.
Rule 303 said:
Tamb said:
Witty Rejoinder said:‘Harold Holt: The Journey Home’.
Looking again it’s a different Gunnamatta.Yeah, this one’s the surf beach.
Rule 303 said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Arts said:wait, what? I thought it was because you are using cows for personal human gain… or taking the milk away from the calf or some such… who kills cattle to get milk?
What dairy producer keeps feeding all bulls and old age cows until they die a natural death?
Many, many cultures around the world keep cows for milk, dung, work, and breeding for profit until they are very old, then take the meat / leather / bones etc after the animal dies.
I’m talking about dairy producers in Australia and similar countries.
Tamb said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Rule 303 said:
This thing is on the surfcam at the end of my road.Orca?
‘Harold Holt: The Journey Home’.
Looking again it’s a different Gunnamatta.
I don’t think it’s gunna matter now.
Arts said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Arts said:+1.
neither PE nor 60 mins is Worth watching these days.
I only caught the ad but PE warns that if he were to befall some accident it would be by nefarious means. Who knew that paleo seems to cause paranoia?.
everyone… I mean I haven’t done any formal studies on it, but anecdotally, every person that I know that is paleo or vegan is also a conspiracy theorist, antivaxxer, flatearther or any combination of them.
I have to admit I don’t personally know any paleo folks.
party_pants said:
Tamb said:
Witty Rejoinder said:‘Harold Holt: The Journey Home’.
Looking again it’s a different Gunnamatta.I don’t think it’s gunna matter now.
Rule 303 said:
Tamb said:
Witty Rejoinder said:‘Harold Holt: The Journey Home’.
Looking again it’s a different Gunnamatta.Yeah, this one’s the surf beach.
I got horribly sunburnt at Gunnamatta surf beach in the late 1970s.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Rule 303 said:
The Rev Dodgson said:What dairy producer keeps feeding all bulls and old age cows until they die a natural death?
Many, many cultures around the world keep cows for milk, dung, work, and breeding for profit until they are very old, then take the meat / leather / bones etc after the animal dies.
I’m talking about dairy producers in Australia and similar countries.
Yeah OK. I think I understand the question better now – You want to know what dairy producer keeps feeding all bulls and old age cows until they die a natural death in countries where no dairy producer keeps feeding all bulls and old age cows until they die a natural death.
Can I suggest a dairy producer in drought?
dv said:
Arts said:
Witty Rejoinder said:I only caught the ad but PE warns that if he were to befall some accident it would be by nefarious means. Who knew that paleo seems to cause paranoia?.
everyone… I mean I haven’t done any formal studies on it, but anecdotally, every person that I know that is paleo or vegan is also a conspiracy theorist, antivaxxer, flatearther or any combination of them.
I have to admit I don’t personally know any paleo folks.
Similar to Goths I think.
Rule 303 said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Rule 303 said:Many, many cultures around the world keep cows for milk, dung, work, and breeding for profit until they are very old, then take the meat / leather / bones etc after the animal dies.
I’m talking about dairy producers in Australia and similar countries.
Yeah OK. I think I understand the question better now – You want to know what dairy producer keeps feeding all bulls and old age cows until they die a natural death in countries where no dairy producer keeps feeding all bulls and old age cows until they die a natural death.
Can I suggest a dairy producer in drought?
eat more veal.
Bogsnorkler said:
Rule 303 said:
The Rev Dodgson said:I’m talking about dairy producers in Australia and similar countries.
Yeah OK. I think I understand the question better now – You want to know what dairy producer keeps feeding all bulls and old age cows until they die a natural death in countries where no dairy producer keeps feeding all bulls and old age cows until they die a natural death.
Can I suggest a dairy producer in drought?
eat more veal.
…you bastards.
Rule 303 said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Rule 303 said:Yeah OK. I think I understand the question better now – You want to know what dairy producer keeps feeding all bulls and old age cows until they die a natural death in countries where no dairy producer keeps feeding all bulls and old age cows until they die a natural death.
Can I suggest a dairy producer in drought?
eat more veal.
…you bastards.
Sam Kekovich won’t like that.
Rule 303 said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Rule 303 said:Many, many cultures around the world keep cows for milk, dung, work, and breeding for profit until they are very old, then take the meat / leather / bones etc after the animal dies.
I’m talking about dairy producers in Australia and similar countries.
Yeah OK. I think I understand the question better now – You want to know what dairy producer keeps feeding all bulls and old age cows until they die a natural death in countries where no dairy producer keeps feeding all bulls and old age cows until they die a natural death.
Can I suggest a dairy producer in drought?
It’s almost like you are being deliberately obtuse here.
I mean I don’t think there is anything wrong with killing healthy animals involved in food production, but for those that do it seems a bit of a double standard to accept it when the animals were part of the dairy food production process.
Food report: I feel like eating fish fingers tonight. I’ve got some Warrigal Greens to steam to have with them, and I’ve got a beetroot boiling at the moment. I am going to have a go at an Indian version of smashed potatoes as well.
https://www.cookwithmanali.com/masala-smashed-potatoes/
buffy said:
Food report: I feel like eating fish fingers tonight. I’ve got some Warrigal Greens to steam to have with them, and I’ve got a beetroot boiling at the moment. I am going to have a go at an Indian version of smashed potatoes as well.https://www.cookwithmanali.com/masala-smashed-potatoes/
buffy said:
Food report: I feel like eating fish fingers tonight. I’ve got some Warrigal Greens to steam to have with them, and I’ve got a beetroot boiling at the moment. I am going to have a go at an Indian version of smashed potatoes as well.https://www.cookwithmanali.com/masala-smashed-potatoes/
Brave.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Rule 303 said:
The Rev Dodgson said:I’m talking about dairy producers in Australia and similar countries.
Yeah OK. I think I understand the question better now – You want to know what dairy producer keeps feeding all bulls and old age cows until they die a natural death in countries where no dairy producer keeps feeding all bulls and old age cows until they die a natural death.
Can I suggest a dairy producer in drought?
It’s almost like you are being deliberately obtuse here.
I mean I don’t think there is anything wrong with killing healthy animals involved in food production, but for those that do it seems a bit of a double standard to accept it when the animals were part of the dairy food production process.
I feel like I’ve lost the thread of your point here, mate. I’m sorry.
Tamb said:
buffy said:
Food report: I feel like eating fish fingers tonight. I’ve got some Warrigal Greens to steam to have with them, and I’ve got a beetroot boiling at the moment. I am going to have a go at an Indian version of smashed potatoes as well.https://www.cookwithmanali.com/masala-smashed-potatoes/
Chicken & vegie pasta for me.
I’ve got some thin sliced scotch fillets and spuds and beans and popular cola.
buffy said:
Food report: I feel like eating fish fingers tonight. I’ve got some Warrigal Greens to steam to have with them, and I’ve got a beetroot boiling at the moment. I am going to have a go at an Indian version of smashed potatoes as well.https://www.cookwithmanali.com/masala-smashed-potatoes/
Excellent!
Beef curry here.
dv said:
party_pants said:
Arts said:
They were constitutional experts the month before the ‘Rona virus.
I really think this is a stupid sentiment. It is extremely easy to become well-informed these days.
Yep, there’s tons of YouTube videos on every conceivable topic. Without YouTube, I’d have never known Prince William is the third antichrist.
Rule 303 said:
buffy said:
Food report: I feel like eating fish fingers tonight. I’ve got some Warrigal Greens to steam to have with them, and I’ve got a beetroot boiling at the moment. I am going to have a go at an Indian version of smashed potatoes as well.https://www.cookwithmanali.com/masala-smashed-potatoes/
Excellent!
Beef curry here.
buffy said:
Food report: I feel like eating fish fingers tonight. I’ve got some Warrigal Greens to steam to have with them, and I’ve got a beetroot boiling at the moment. I am going to have a go at an Indian version of smashed potatoes as well.https://www.cookwithmanali.com/masala-smashed-potatoes/
are they ethically caught fish fingers?
Divine Angel said:
dv said:
party_pants said:They were constitutional experts the month before the ‘Rona virus.
I really think this is a stupid sentiment. It is extremely easy to become well-informed these days.
Yep, there’s tons of YouTube videos on every conceivable topic. Without YouTube, I’d have never known Prince William is the third antichrist.
is he the fat one that balances the two thin antichrists?
Tamb said:
Rule 303 said:
Bogsnorkler said:eat more veal.
…you bastards.
Sam Kekovich won’t like that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtWVJikNnx4
Nailed it.
Rule 303 said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Rule 303 said:Yeah OK. I think I understand the question better now – You want to know what dairy producer keeps feeding all bulls and old age cows until they die a natural death in countries where no dairy producer keeps feeding all bulls and old age cows until they die a natural death.
Can I suggest a dairy producer in drought?
It’s almost like you are being deliberately obtuse here.
I mean I don’t think there is anything wrong with killing healthy animals involved in food production, but for those that do it seems a bit of a double standard to accept it when the animals were part of the dairy food production process.
I feel like I’ve lost the thread of your point here, mate. I’m sorry.
It’s simple enough.
For those people who choose not to eat food that involves the killing of healthy animals, it makes sense not to eat dairy products, as well as not eating meat.
That’s all.
Two young people of some xyck or some such generation just came up the road bouncing a basketball, that’s right a foreign basketball, laughing and listening to American rap, that’s right talking repetitive faux music.
It’s not right.
how cold is it, brrrrr, arctic, motivation to swing the ax
The Rev Dodgson said:
Rule 303 said:
The Rev Dodgson said:It’s almost like you are being deliberately obtuse here.
I mean I don’t think there is anything wrong with killing healthy animals involved in food production, but for those that do it seems a bit of a double standard to accept it when the animals were part of the dairy food production process.
I feel like I’ve lost the thread of your point here, mate. I’m sorry.
It’s simple enough.
For those people who choose not to eat food that involves the killing of healthy animals, it makes sense not to eat dairy products, as well as not eating meat.
That’s all.
Ahh. Yeah OK.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Rule 303 said:
The Rev Dodgson said:It’s almost like you are being deliberately obtuse here.
I mean I don’t think there is anything wrong with killing healthy animals involved in food production, but for those that do it seems a bit of a double standard to accept it when the animals were part of the dairy food production process.
I feel like I’ve lost the thread of your point here, mate. I’m sorry.
It’s simple enough.
For those people who choose not to eat food that involves the killing of healthy animals, it makes sense not to eat dairy products, as well as not eating meat.
That’s all.
But soy milk in coffee is fnrkn orrible.
transition said:
how cold is it, brrrrr, arctic, motivation to swing the ax
You swing the axe to chop the wood to light the fire to heat the food to give you the strength to swing the axe.
transition said:
how cold is it, brrrrr, arctic, motivation to swing the ax
Heading for -3 again tonight this end, but I won’t get the wood fire going because I’ll be doing music here in the music room.
buffy said:
Food report: I feel like eating fish fingers tonight. I’ve got some Warrigal Greens to steam to have with them, and I’ve got a beetroot boiling at the moment. I am going to have a go at an Indian version of smashed potatoes as well.https://www.cookwithmanali.com/masala-smashed-potatoes/
I’m doing yet another small quiche to use up the last of the puff pastry.
Peak Warming Man said:
transition said:
how cold is it, brrrrr, arctic, motivation to swing the ax
You swing the axe to chop the wood to light the fire to heat the food to give you the strength to swing the axe.
Peak Warming Man said:
transition said:
how cold is it, brrrrr, arctic, motivation to swing the ax
You swing the axe to chop the wood to light the fire to heat the food to give you the strength to swing the axe.
bit like that, though the cooking’s done with gas
the more immediate thing is I find the cold punishing
Tamb said:
Peak Warming Man said:
transition said:
how cold is it, brrrrr, arctic, motivation to swing the ax
You swing the axe to chop the wood to light the fire to heat the food to give you the strength to swing the axe.
Wood warms you 3 times. Once when you gather it. Second when you cut it & third when you burn it.
but coal is monatomic gamma heat capacity ratio times better
once when protesters light up your mine
second when you burn it in the power plant
third when you use the electricity in your heater
fourth when the infrared window closes
fifth when extreme fire season burns down all the remaining national park
SCIENCE said:
Tamb said:
Peak Warming Man said:You swing the axe to chop the wood to light the fire to heat the food to give you the strength to swing the axe.
Wood warms you 3 times. Once when you gather it. Second when you cut it & third when you burn it.but coal is monatomic gamma heat capacity ratio times better
once when protesters light up your mine
second when you burn it in the power plant
third when you use the electricity in your heater
fourth when the infrared window closes
fifth when extreme fire season burns down all the remaining national park
Bogsnorkler said:
buffy said:
Food report: I feel like eating fish fingers tonight. I’ve got some Warrigal Greens to steam to have with them, and I’ve got a beetroot boiling at the moment. I am going to have a go at an Indian version of smashed potatoes as well.https://www.cookwithmanali.com/masala-smashed-potatoes/
are they ethically caught fish fingers?
Do you mean were the fish tortured before their fingers were cut off? (I have no idea. I’ve been buying and eating Birds Eye fish fingers for as long as I can remember)
(So I looked at the pack. Apparently they are made from Hoki and come from a properly managed fishery with some sort of certification)
buffy said:
Bogsnorkler said:
buffy said:
Food report: I feel like eating fish fingers tonight. I’ve got some Warrigal Greens to steam to have with them, and I’ve got a beetroot boiling at the moment. I am going to have a go at an Indian version of smashed potatoes as well.https://www.cookwithmanali.com/masala-smashed-potatoes/
are they ethically caught fish fingers?
Do you mean were the fish tortured before their fingers were cut off? (I have no idea. I’ve been buying and eating Birds Eye fish fingers for as long as I can remember)
(So I looked at the pack. Apparently they are made from Hoki and come from a properly managed fishery with some sort of certification)
murder
SCIENCE said:
buffy said:
Bogsnorkler said:are they ethically caught fish fingers?
Do you mean were the fish tortured before their fingers were cut off? (I have no idea. I’ve been buying and eating Birds Eye fish fingers for as long as I can remember)
(So I looked at the pack. Apparently they are made from Hoki and come from a properly managed fishery with some sort of certification)
murder
Only if you are a fish. You can’t murder something that is not your own species.
SCIENCE said:
buffy said:
Bogsnorkler said:are they ethically caught fish fingers?
Do you mean were the fish tortured before their fingers were cut off? (I have no idea. I’ve been buying and eating Birds Eye fish fingers for as long as I can remember)
(So I looked at the pack. Apparently they are made from Hoki and come from a properly managed fishery with some sort of certification)
murder
btm said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Tamb said:pdf’s are in letter size until you tweak the printer program.
Depends who made them.
MS Office Aus version at one time had A4 as the default page size, but they have now gone back to “letter” size as the default.
LOL You mean people still use that junk?
I don’t. OpenOffice here…
Rays of hope
Arab states are embracing solar power
The Middle East cannot rely on oil forever
Middle East & Africa
May 7th 2020 edition
Two millennia after the ancient Egyptians dropped their solar deity, Ra, their descendants are rediscovering the power of the sun. In the southern desert, half an hour’s drive from Aswan, Egypt is putting the finishing touches to Benban, one of the world’s largest solar farms (pictured). Its 6m panels produce 1.5 gigawatts (gw) of energy, enough to power over 1m homes. “In a decade we’ll still need oil for plastics and other petrochemicals, but not for energy,” says Rabeaa Fattal, a Dubai-based investor in Rising Sun, one of Benban’s 40 fields.
Much of the modern Middle East and north Africa was built on oil. It exports more of the black stuff than any other region. A quarter of Middle Eastern power comes from it, compared with 3% from renewable sources. But the recent collapse in oil prices is a reminder that it is risky to depend on a single source of revenue. And in the long run the global trend is towards cleaner energy sources. Renewable-energy capacity in the Middle East has doubled to 40 gigawatts (gw) over the past decade and is set to double again by 2024.
With its vast deserts, the Arab world’s most abundant clean-energy source is the sun. Non-oil economies were first to take advantage of it. More than a third of Morocco’s energy now comes from renewables (in the eu the average is 18%). Oil producers are catching up. A big project in Abu Dhabi, the capital of the United Arab Emirates (uae), recently received the world’s lowest tariff bid for solar power. Oman, Kuwait and Qatar have large projects, too. The Middle East as a whole generates 9gw of solar power, up from a paltry 91 megawatts a decade ago. Between 2008 and 2018 investment in the field increased 12-fold.
The growing competitiveness of renewables makes analysts optimistic that the trend will continue (see chart). Solar farms are cheaper, faster and safer to build and maintain than oil and gas plants. The uae’s new solar plant will generate electricity at roughly two-thirds the cost of gas and a third that of oil, even at today’s low prices. Several countries in the region speak of becoming renewable-energy exporters.
Investors, though, still have cause to hesitate. For a start, Arab autocrats often promise more than they deliver. Take Muhammad bin Salman, the de facto ruler of Saudi Arabia, who has made renewable energy a pillar of his economic-reform plan. In 2018 he and SoftBank, a Japanese conglomerate, announced the world’s biggest solar-power-generation project in the Saudi desert. It was shelved six months later.
Regional turmoil scares investors away, too. Iraq’s electricity minister blames protests for derailing his plans to meet 20% of demand with renewables by 2030. Conflicts in neighbouring countries have damned Jordan’s efforts to export solar power to Lebanon. Turbulent Egypt offered to buy solar power at above-market rates in order to attract investors to Benban.
There is also a risk that, in the short term, cheap oil dims countries’ ardour for solar power. Saudi Arabia, for example, might prefer to burn more oil for energy. Declining revenues could force oil-producing states to suspend new solar projects.
But such projects are largely driven by the private sector, and they continue to compare favourably with fossil fuels. “We have seen an acceleration in tenders during covid-19,” says Paddy Padmanathan of acwa Power, a Saudi firm that operates renewable-energy projects. “Why spend money taking fuel out of the ground and processing it rather than relying on God-given free sun and wind?”
https://www.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2020/05/07/arab-states-are-embracing-solar-power?
Arts said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Arts said:wait, what? I thought it was because you are using cows for personal human gain… or taking the milk away from the calf or some such… who kills cattle to get milk?
What dairy producer keeps feeding all bulls and old age cows until they die a natural death?
I just thought they were slaughtered unless they won some first prize at the Ag Show.
I’ve eaten steaks from an Ekka-winning calf: Best calf; and, Most Weight on the Hook.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Rays of hope
Arab states are embracing solar power
The Middle East cannot rely on oil foreverMiddle East & Africa
May 7th 2020 editionTwo millennia after the ancient Egyptians dropped their solar deity, Ra, their descendants are rediscovering the power of the sun. In the southern desert, half an hour’s drive from Aswan, Egypt is putting the finishing touches to Benban, one of the world’s largest solar farms (pictured). Its 6m panels produce 1.5 gigawatts (gw) of energy, enough to power over 1m homes. “In a decade we’ll still need oil for plastics and other petrochemicals, but not for energy,” says Rabeaa Fattal, a Dubai-based investor in Rising Sun, one of Benban’s 40 fields.
Much of the modern Middle East and north Africa was built on oil. It exports more of the black stuff than any other region. A quarter of Middle Eastern power comes from it, compared with 3% from renewable sources. But the recent collapse in oil prices is a reminder that it is risky to depend on a single source of revenue. And in the long run the global trend is towards cleaner energy sources. Renewable-energy capacity in the Middle East has doubled to 40 gigawatts (gw) over the past decade and is set to double again by 2024.
With its vast deserts, the Arab world’s most abundant clean-energy source is the sun. Non-oil economies were first to take advantage of it. More than a third of Morocco’s energy now comes from renewables (in the eu the average is 18%). Oil producers are catching up. A big project in Abu Dhabi, the capital of the United Arab Emirates (uae), recently received the world’s lowest tariff bid for solar power. Oman, Kuwait and Qatar have large projects, too. The Middle East as a whole generates 9gw of solar power, up from a paltry 91 megawatts a decade ago. Between 2008 and 2018 investment in the field increased 12-fold.
The growing competitiveness of renewables makes analysts optimistic that the trend will continue (see chart). Solar farms are cheaper, faster and safer to build and maintain than oil and gas plants. The uae’s new solar plant will generate electricity at roughly two-thirds the cost of gas and a third that of oil, even at today’s low prices. Several countries in the region speak of becoming renewable-energy exporters.
Investors, though, still have cause to hesitate. For a start, Arab autocrats often promise more than they deliver. Take Muhammad bin Salman, the de facto ruler of Saudi Arabia, who has made renewable energy a pillar of his economic-reform plan. In 2018 he and SoftBank, a Japanese conglomerate, announced the world’s biggest solar-power-generation project in the Saudi desert. It was shelved six months later.
Regional turmoil scares investors away, too. Iraq’s electricity minister blames protests for derailing his plans to meet 20% of demand with renewables by 2030. Conflicts in neighbouring countries have damned Jordan’s efforts to export solar power to Lebanon. Turbulent Egypt offered to buy solar power at above-market rates in order to attract investors to Benban.
There is also a risk that, in the short term, cheap oil dims countries’ ardour for solar power. Saudi Arabia, for example, might prefer to burn more oil for energy. Declining revenues could force oil-producing states to suspend new solar projects.
But such projects are largely driven by the private sector, and they continue to compare favourably with fossil fuels. “We have seen an acceleration in tenders during covid-19,” says Paddy Padmanathan of acwa Power, a Saudi firm that operates renewable-energy projects. “Why spend money taking fuel out of the ground and processing it rather than relying on God-given free sun and wind?”
https://www.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2020/05/07/arab-states-are-embracing-solar-power?
*Its 6m panels produce 1.5 gigawatts (gw) of energy, *
Oh, FFS, hire someone with a modicum of knowledge.
Rule 303 said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Tamb said:Vegans don’t drink milk so yeast is no stretch.
They don’t drink milk because milk production involves the killing of cattle.
Veganism has a much sounder ethical basis than vegetarianism. It’s just less convenient.
They reckon there’s a lot more to it than just killing cattle:
I like cheese and yoghurt. Never going to convince me.
Michael V said:
Arts said:
The Rev Dodgson said:What dairy producer keeps feeding all bulls and old age cows until they die a natural death?
I just thought they were slaughtered unless they won some first prize at the Ag Show.
I’ve eaten steaks from an Ekka-winning calf: Best calf; and, Most Weight on the Hook.
Dogs and cats are one thing but veal? You’re worse than Hitler!
Witty Rejoinder said:
Rays of hope
Arab states are embracing solar power
The Middle East cannot rely on oil foreverMiddle East & Africa
May 7th 2020 editionTwo millennia after the ancient Egyptians dropped their solar deity, Ra, their descendants are rediscovering the power of the sun. In the southern desert, half an hour’s drive from Aswan, Egypt is putting the finishing touches to Benban, one of the world’s largest solar farms (pictured). Its 6m panels produce 1.5 gigawatts (gw) of energy, enough to power over 1m homes. “In a decade we’ll still need oil for plastics and other petrochemicals, but not for energy,” says Rabeaa Fattal, a Dubai-based investor in Rising Sun, one of Benban’s 40 fields.
Much of the modern Middle East and north Africa was built on oil. It exports more of the black stuff than any other region. A quarter of Middle Eastern power comes from it, compared with 3% from renewable sources. But the recent collapse in oil prices is a reminder that it is risky to depend on a single source of revenue. And in the long run the global trend is towards cleaner energy sources. Renewable-energy capacity in the Middle East has doubled to 40 gigawatts (gw) over the past decade and is set to double again by 2024.
With its vast deserts, the Arab world’s most abundant clean-energy source is the sun. Non-oil economies were first to take advantage of it. More than a third of Morocco’s energy now comes from renewables (in the eu the average is 18%). Oil producers are catching up. A big project in Abu Dhabi, the capital of the United Arab Emirates (uae), recently received the world’s lowest tariff bid for solar power. Oman, Kuwait and Qatar have large projects, too. The Middle East as a whole generates 9gw of solar power, up from a paltry 91 megawatts a decade ago. Between 2008 and 2018 investment in the field increased 12-fold.
The growing competitiveness of renewables makes analysts optimistic that the trend will continue (see chart). Solar farms are cheaper, faster and safer to build and maintain than oil and gas plants. The uae’s new solar plant will generate electricity at roughly two-thirds the cost of gas and a third that of oil, even at today’s low prices. Several countries in the region speak of becoming renewable-energy exporters.
Investors, though, still have cause to hesitate. For a start, Arab autocrats often promise more than they deliver. Take Muhammad bin Salman, the de facto ruler of Saudi Arabia, who has made renewable energy a pillar of his economic-reform plan. In 2018 he and SoftBank, a Japanese conglomerate, announced the world’s biggest solar-power-generation project in the Saudi desert. It was shelved six months later.
Regional turmoil scares investors away, too. Iraq’s electricity minister blames protests for derailing his plans to meet 20% of demand with renewables by 2030. Conflicts in neighbouring countries have damned Jordan’s efforts to export solar power to Lebanon. Turbulent Egypt offered to buy solar power at above-market rates in order to attract investors to Benban.
There is also a risk that, in the short term, cheap oil dims countries’ ardour for solar power. Saudi Arabia, for example, might prefer to burn more oil for energy. Declining revenues could force oil-producing states to suspend new solar projects.
But such projects are largely driven by the private sector, and they continue to compare favourably with fossil fuels. “We have seen an acceleration in tenders during covid-19,” says Paddy Padmanathan of acwa Power, a Saudi firm that operates renewable-energy projects. “Why spend money taking fuel out of the ground and processing it rather than relying on God-given free sun and wind?”
https://www.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2020/05/07/arab-states-are-embracing-solar-power?
well what would you do if
the USSA started mass producing its own oil
coronavirus oil glut
you have lots of desert
My dad’s life sounds like a country song: he sprained his knee and his dog ran away.
party_pants said:
Tamb said:
Witty Rejoinder said:‘Harold Holt: The Journey Home’.
Looking again it’s a different Gunnamatta.I don’t think it’s gunna matter now.
Nice work.
:)
sibeen said:
*Its 6m panels produce 1.5 gigawatts (gw) of energy, *Oh, FFS, hire someone with a modicum of knowledge.
Strange. That article is 2 weeks old so they’ve had plenty of time to correct it. Maybe EEs don’t read the Economist.
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:
The Rev Dodgson said:They don’t drink milk because milk production involves the killing of cattle.
Veganism has a much sounder ethical basis than vegetarianism. It’s just less convenient.
They reckon there’s a lot more to it than just killing cattle:
I like cheese and yoghurt. Never going to convince me.
I love, love, love cheese and I also like milk, so they can GAGF.
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Food report: I feel like eating fish fingers tonight. I’ve got some Warrigal Greens to steam to have with them, and I’ve got a beetroot boiling at the moment. I am going to have a go at an Indian version of smashed potatoes as well.https://www.cookwithmanali.com/masala-smashed-potatoes/
I’m doing yet another small quiche to use up the last of the puff pastry.
Do you make your own puff pastry?
Divine Angel said:
My dad’s life sounds like a country song: he sprained his knee and his dog ran away.
wait until he flips his pick up truck off the interstate.
buffy said:
SCIENCE said:
buffy said:Do you mean were the fish tortured before their fingers were cut off? (I have no idea. I’ve been buying and eating Birds Eye fish fingers for as long as I can remember)
(So I looked at the pack. Apparently they are made from Hoki and come from a properly managed fishery with some sort of certification)
murder
Only if you are a fish. You can’t murder something that is not your own species.
well, that’s a can of, still alive, worms opened…
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:*Its 6m panels produce 1.5 gigawatts (gw) of energy, *Oh, FFS, hire someone with a modicum of knowledge.
Strange. That article is 2 weeks old so they’ve had plenty of time to correct it. Maybe EEs don’t read the Economist.
Gawd, I’d hope it wouldn’t take an EE to have to pick it up. An interested 5th former should be able to handle it.
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:
The Rev Dodgson said:They don’t drink milk because milk production involves the killing of cattle.
Veganism has a much sounder ethical basis than vegetarianism. It’s just less convenient.
They reckon there’s a lot more to it than just killing cattle:
I like cheese and yoghurt. Never going to convince me.
I wonder if those people have ever seen a cow, let alone been on an Australian farm.
sibeen said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:*Its 6m panels produce 1.5 gigawatts (gw) of energy, *Oh, FFS, hire someone with a modicum of knowledge.
Strange. That article is 2 weeks old so they’ve had plenty of time to correct it. Maybe EEs don’t read the Economist.
Gawd, I’d hope it wouldn’t take an EE to have to pick it up. An interested 5th former should be able to handle it.
at least they didn’t put in a superfluous apostrophe.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Michael V said:
Arts said:I just thought they were slaughtered unless they won some first prize at the Ag Show.
I’ve eaten steaks from an Ekka-winning calf: Best calf; and, Most Weight on the Hook.
Dogs and cats are one thing but veal? You’re worse than Hitler!
Gee, that escalated quickly!
Divine Angel said:
My dad’s life sounds like a country song: he sprained his knee and his dog ran away.
LOL
Peak Warming Man said:
Two young people of some xyck or some such generation just came up the road bouncing a basketball, that’s right a foreign basketball, laughing and listening to American rap, that’s right talking repetitive faux music.
It’s not right.
I believe some indigenous Australians are quite keen on that rap stuff too.
Whether that counts as cultural appropriation, I don’t know.
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
My dad’s life sounds like a country song: he sprained his knee and his dog ran away.
LOL
How’s his truck?
Arts said:
buffy said:
SCIENCE said:murder
Only if you are a fish. You can’t murder something that is not your own species.
well, that’s a can of, still alive, worms opened…
or their ability to breathe when taken out of water
Michael V said:
btm said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Depends who made them.
MS Office Aus version at one time had A4 as the default page size, but they have now gone back to “letter” size as the default.
LOL You mean people still use that junk?
I don’t. OpenOffice here…
I’m pretty sure that no-one claims that everybody uses MS Office.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:
btm said:LOL You mean people still use that junk?
I don’t. OpenOffice here…
I’m pretty sure that no-one claims that everybody uses MS Office.
no you do you just don’t know it, you’ve been brainwashed by the 5G activated coronavirus vaccine
btm said:
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:They reckon there’s a lot more to it than just killing cattle:
I like cheese and yoghurt. Never going to convince me.
I wonder if those people have ever seen a cow, let alone been on an Australian farm.
Why do you wonder that?
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Two young people of some xyck or some such generation just came up the road bouncing a basketball, that’s right a foreign basketball, laughing and listening to American rap, that’s right talking repetitive faux music.
It’s not right.
I believe some indigenous Australians are quite keen on that rap stuff too.
Whether that counts as cultural appropriation, I don’t know.
Thank goodness good old rock & roll has nothing to do with Black American musical styles.
how do blind people know when to stop wiping their bum after having a shit?
Bogsnorkler said:
how do blind people know when to stop wiping their bum after having a shit?
I mean, I don’t know about anyone else, but I don’t look to see when I need to stop.
btm said:
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:They reckon there’s a lot more to it than just killing cattle:
I like cheese and yoghurt. Never going to convince me.
I wonder if those people have ever seen a cow, let alone been on an Australian farm.
111. As to the use of milk and of that which proceeds from milk, in a family, very little need be said. At a certain age bread and milk are all that a child wants. At a later age they furnish one meal a day for children. Milk is, at all seasons, good to drink. In the making of puddings, and in the making of bread too, how useful is it! Let any one who has eaten none but baker’s bread for a good while, taste bread home-baked, mixed with milk instead of with water; and he will find what the difference is. There is this only to be observed, that in hot weather, bread mixed with milk will not keep so long as that mixed with water. It will of course turn sour sooner.
112. Whether the milk of a cow be to be consumed by a cottage family in the shape of milk, or whether it be to be made to yield butter, skim-milk, and buttermilk, must depend on circumstances. A woman that has no child, or only one, would, perhaps, find it best to make some butter at any rate. Besides, skim-milk and bread (the milk being boiled) is quite strong food enough for any children’s breakfast, even when they begin to go to work; a fact which I state upon the most ample and satisfactory experience, very seldom having ever had any other sort of breakfast myself till I was more than ten years old, and I was in the fields at work full four years before that. I will here mention that it gave me singular pleasure to see a boy, just turned of six, helping his father to reap, in Sussex, this last summer. He did little, to be sure; but it was something. His father set him into the ridge at a great distance before him; and when he came up to the place, he found a sheaf cut; and, those who know what it is to reap, know how pleasant it is to find now and then a sheaf cut ready to their hand. It was no small thing to see a boy fit to be trusted with so dangerous a thing as a reap-hook in his hands, at an age when “young masters” have nursery-maids to cut their victuals for them, and to see that they do not fall out of the window, tumble down stairs, or run under carriage-wheels or horses’ bellies. Was not this father discharging his duty by this boy much better than he would have been by sending him to a place called a school? The boy is in a school here; and an excellent school too: the school of useful labour. I must hear a great deal more than I ever have heard, to convince me, that teaching children to read tends so much to their happiness, their independence of spirit, their manliness of character, as teaching them to reap. The creature that is in want must be a slave; and to be habituated to labour cheerfully is the only means of preventing nineteen-twentieths of mankind from being in want. I have digressed here; but observations of this sort can, in my opinion, never be too often repeated; especially at a time when all sorts of mad projects are on foot, for what is falsely called educating the people, and when some would do this by a tax that would compel the single man to give part of his earnings to teach the married man’s children to read and write.
113. Before I quit the uses to which milk may be put, let me mention, that, as mere drink, it is, unless perhaps in case of heavy labour, better, in my opinion, than any beer, however good. I have drinked little else for the last five years, at any time of the day. Skim-milk I mean. If you have not milk enough to wet up your bread with (for a bushel of flour requires about 16 to 18 pints,) you make up the quantity with water, of course; or, which is a very good way, with water that has been put, boiling hot, upon bran, and then drained off. This takes the goodness out of the bran to be sure; but really good bread is a thing of so much importance, that it always ought to be the very first object in domestic economy.
-Cobbett
Arts said:
Bogsnorkler said:
how do blind people know when to stop wiping their bum after having a shit?
I mean, I don’t know about anyone else, but I don’t look to see when I need to stop.
why not use a bidet
Bogsnorkler said:
how do blind people know when to stop wiping their bum after having a shit?
ask one
dv said:
Bogsnorkler said:
how do blind people know when to stop wiping their bum after having a shit?
ask one
might see if i can find a blind persons FB page.
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
Bogsnorkler said:
how do blind people know when to stop wiping their bum after having a shit?
ask one
might see if i can find a blind persons FB page.
I mean I googled and here’s the first thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd9DLzmLxFc
dv said:
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:ask one
might see if i can find a blind persons FB page.
I mean I googled and here’s the first thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd9DLzmLxFc
well, that’s just youtube, not a real reliable source…
Thanks.
Hey buffy, got your letter today. Thanks.
Arts said:
Bogsnorkler said:
how do blind people know when to stop wiping their bum after having a shit?
I mean, I don’t know about anyone else, but I don’t look to see when I need to stop.
Sniff test?
Barking report: the hysterical dogs in the property opposite me were getting worse, so last Monday I called the council and asked what became of that barking survey thing I returned.
Tammy, the animal control officer, said that they were actually concerned about a different problem barker on this street, and that they’d sent a letter to the household involved.
But because I followed it up with a call and my problem’s getting worse (after having complained to the people involved a couple of times), she said she’d send them a letter too, that very day.
The barking continued daily up until Thursday, then suddenly….no more :)
There are other annoying barkers amongst the neighbours, but theirs were by far the worst.
Bogsnorkler said:
how do blind people know when to stop wiping their bum after having a shit?
Braille toilet paper.
Bubblecar said:
Barking report: the hysterical dogs in the property opposite me were getting worse, so last Monday I called the council and asked what became of that barking survey thing I returned.Tammy, the animal control officer, said that they were actually concerned about a different problem barker on this street, and that they’d sent a letter to the household involved.
But because I followed it up with a call and my problem’s getting worse (after having complained to the people involved a couple of times), she said she’d send them a letter too, that very day.
The barking continued daily up until Thursday, then suddenly….no more :)
There are other annoying barkers amongst the neighbours, but theirs were by far the worst.
No Woofing Here.
(I wonder how they stopped the woofing.)
Bubblecar said:
Bogsnorkler said:
how do blind people know when to stop wiping their bum after having a shit?
Braille toilet paper.
nice
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Barking report: the hysterical dogs in the property opposite me were getting worse, so last Monday I called the council and asked what became of that barking survey thing I returned.Tammy, the animal control officer, said that they were actually concerned about a different problem barker on this street, and that they’d sent a letter to the household involved.
But because I followed it up with a call and my problem’s getting worse (after having complained to the people involved a couple of times), she said she’d send them a letter too, that very day.
The barking continued daily up until Thursday, then suddenly….no more :)
There are other annoying barkers amongst the neighbours, but theirs were by far the worst.
No Woofing Here.
(I wonder how they stopped the woofing.)
Don’t know. There was so much noise, I could never tell if it was two dogs or three.
She seemed to put them all out at the same time to do their business and get some exercise etc, and they’d spend the whole time barking their heads off at nothing (or at each other) often quite early in the morning and sometimes for hours at a time. I get the impression that the bigger dog(s) are normally separated from the yappy little one because it does seem as though they’re aggressively barking at each other.
Maybe she’s letting them out one at a time now and taking them back in as soon as they’ve done their business. Or maybe she got rid of them.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Barking report: the hysterical dogs in the property opposite me were getting worse, so last Monday I called the council and asked what became of that barking survey thing I returned.Tammy, the animal control officer, said that they were actually concerned about a different problem barker on this street, and that they’d sent a letter to the household involved.
But because I followed it up with a call and my problem’s getting worse (after having complained to the people involved a couple of times), she said she’d send them a letter too, that very day.
The barking continued daily up until Thursday, then suddenly….no more :)
There are other annoying barkers amongst the neighbours, but theirs were by far the worst.
No Woofing Here.
(I wonder how they stopped the woofing.)
Don’t know. There was so much noise, I could never tell if it was two dogs or three.
She seemed to put them all out at the same time to do their business and get some exercise etc, and they’d spend the whole time barking their heads off at nothing (or at each other) often quite early in the morning and sometimes for hours at a time. I get the impression that the bigger dog(s) are normally separated from the yappy little one because it does seem as though they’re aggressively barking at each other.
Maybe she’s letting them out one at a time now and taking them back in as soon as they’ve done their business. Or maybe she got rid of them.
Maybe they weren’t registered and the council picked them up?
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Barking report: the hysterical dogs in the property opposite me were getting worse, so last Monday I called the council and asked what became of that barking survey thing I returned.Tammy, the animal control officer, said that they were actually concerned about a different problem barker on this street, and that they’d sent a letter to the household involved.
But because I followed it up with a call and my problem’s getting worse (after having complained to the people involved a couple of times), she said she’d send them a letter too, that very day.
The barking continued daily up until Thursday, then suddenly….no more :)
There are other annoying barkers amongst the neighbours, but theirs were by far the worst.
No Woofing Here.
(I wonder how they stopped the woofing.)
Don’t know. There was so much noise, I could never tell if it was two dogs or three.
She seemed to put them all out at the same time to do their business and get some exercise etc, and they’d spend the whole time barking their heads off at nothing (or at each other) often quite early in the morning and sometimes for hours at a time. I get the impression that the bigger dog(s) are normally separated from the yappy little one because it does seem as though they’re aggressively barking at each other.
Maybe she’s letting them out one at a time now and taking them back in as soon as they’ve done their business. Or maybe she got rid of them.
anti bark collars.
Divine Angel said:
Hey buffy, got your letter today. Thanks.
:)
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:No Woofing Here.
(I wonder how they stopped the woofing.)
Don’t know. There was so much noise, I could never tell if it was two dogs or three.
She seemed to put them all out at the same time to do their business and get some exercise etc, and they’d spend the whole time barking their heads off at nothing (or at each other) often quite early in the morning and sometimes for hours at a time. I get the impression that the bigger dog(s) are normally separated from the yappy little one because it does seem as though they’re aggressively barking at each other.
Maybe she’s letting them out one at a time now and taking them back in as soon as they’ve done their business. Or maybe she got rid of them.
anti bark collars.
Tammy said the letters they send out include information on how to control barking.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:Don’t know. There was so much noise, I could never tell if it was two dogs or three.
She seemed to put them all out at the same time to do their business and get some exercise etc, and they’d spend the whole time barking their heads off at nothing (or at each other) often quite early in the morning and sometimes for hours at a time. I get the impression that the bigger dog(s) are normally separated from the yappy little one because it does seem as though they’re aggressively barking at each other.
Maybe she’s letting them out one at a time now and taking them back in as soon as they’ve done their business. Or maybe she got rid of them.
anti bark collars.
Tammy said the letters they send out include information on how to control barking.
Excellent. Hope it is quiet for you then from now on.
buffy said:
SCIENCE said:
buffy said:Do you mean were the fish tortured before their fingers were cut off? (I have no idea. I’ve been buying and eating Birds Eye fish fingers for as long as I can remember)
(So I looked at the pack. Apparently they are made from Hoki and come from a properly managed fishery with some sort of certification)
murder
Only if you are a fish. You can’t murder something that is not your own species.
Heh. Got ‘im on a technicality.
:-)
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:
The Rev Dodgson said:They don’t drink milk because milk production involves the killing of cattle.
Veganism has a much sounder ethical basis than vegetarianism. It’s just less convenient.
They reckon there’s a lot more to it than just killing cattle:
I like cheese and yoghurt. Never going to convince me.
I like everything but eggplant, and we can hardly blame cows for them.
Divine Angel said:
My dad’s life sounds like a country song: he sprained his knee and his dog ran away.
LOL.
Willie Nelson would pay money for that.
Looks like I haven’t missed much.
DA’d dad has gone all country and Boris is going blind.
Rule 303 said:
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:They reckon there’s a lot more to it than just killing cattle:
I like cheese and yoghurt. Never going to convince me.
I like everything but eggplant, and we can hardly blame cows for them.
Rule 303 said:
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:They reckon there’s a lot more to it than just killing cattle:
I like cheese and yoghurt. Never going to convince me.
I like everything but eggplant, and we can hardly blame cows for them.
I can tolerate eggplant, but it’s a bit of a nothing veggie really.
That potato recipe was good, by the way. I’ll keep that one.
buffy said:
Rule 303 said:
Michael V said:I like cheese and yoghurt. Never going to convince me.
I like everything but eggplant, and we can hardly blame cows for them.
I can tolerate eggplant, but it’s a bit of a nothing veggie really.
That potato recipe was good, by the way. I’ll keep that one.
Not an eggplant fan here.
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
Rule 303 said:I like everything but eggplant, and we can hardly blame cows for them.
I can tolerate eggplant, but it’s a bit of a nothing veggie really.
That potato recipe was good, by the way. I’ll keep that one.
Not an eggplant fan here.
I like it in ratatouille and similar dishes where it can absorb the fine flavours of the other items.
buffy said:
Rule 303 said:
Michael V said:I like cheese and yoghurt. Never going to convince me.
I like everything but eggplant, and we can hardly blame cows for them.
I can tolerate eggplant, but it’s a bit of a nothing veggie really.
That potato recipe was good, by the way. I’ll keep that one.
MrsRule learnt how to cook it in India, but seems to have forgotten since.
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
Rule 303 said:I like everything but eggplant, and we can hardly blame cows for them.
I can tolerate eggplant, but it’s a bit of a nothing veggie really.
That potato recipe was good, by the way. I’ll keep that one.
Not an eggplant fan here.
Have you had a good moussaka?
hunting birds in the yard here at twilight, had a go at some crested pigeons, he’s a bit surprised there a oddly stealthy human snuck on him
https://newmatilda.com/2020/06/08/kettling-the-military-technique-nsw-police-used-to-force-a-black-lives-matter-showdown%ef%bb%bf/
Bogsnorkler said:
https://newmatilda.com/2020/06/08/kettling-the-military-technique-nsw-police-used-to-force-a-black-lives-matter-showdown%ef%bb%bf/

Rule 303 said:
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:They reckon there’s a lot more to it than just killing cattle:
I like cheese and yoghurt. Never going to convince me.
I like everything but eggplant, and we can hardly blame cows for them.
can we blame chickens?
Arts said:
Rule 303 said:
Michael V said:I like cheese and yoghurt. Never going to convince me.
I like everything but eggplant, and we can hardly blame cows for them.
can we blame chickens?
Blame West Taiwan
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Barking report: the hysterical dogs in the property opposite me were getting worse, so last Monday I called the council and asked what became of that barking survey thing I returned.Tammy, the animal control officer, said that they were actually concerned about a different problem barker on this street, and that they’d sent a letter to the household involved.
But because I followed it up with a call and my problem’s getting worse (after having complained to the people involved a couple of times), she said she’d send them a letter too, that very day.
The barking continued daily up until Thursday, then suddenly….no more :)
There are other annoying barkers amongst the neighbours, but theirs were by far the worst.
No Woofing Here.
(I wonder how they stopped the woofing.)
hopefully with a conscience.
SCIENCE said:
Arts said:
Rule 303 said:I like everything but eggplant, and we can hardly blame cows for them.
can we blame chickens?
Blame West Taiwan
West Taiwanese chickens?
sarahs mum said:
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:I can tolerate eggplant, but it’s a bit of a nothing veggie really.
That potato recipe was good, by the way. I’ll keep that one.
Not an eggplant fan here.
Have you had a good moussaka?
I’ve never had one….at all.
sarahs mum said:
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:I can tolerate eggplant, but it’s a bit of a nothing veggie really.
That potato recipe was good, by the way. I’ll keep that one.
Not an eggplant fan here.
Have you had a good moussaka?
yes. in greece. lovely.
Arts said:
Rule 303 said:
Michael V said:I like cheese and yoghurt. Never going to convince me.
I like everything but eggplant, and we can hardly blame cows for them.
can we blame chickens?
Sure. Why not.
http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/20200604-the-ancient-lost-city-teeming-with-life
Now just leave it alone, no tourists, no scientists, no tracking collars, just fuck off and leave it alone.
SCIENCE said:
Bogsnorkler said:
https://newmatilda.com/2020/06/08/kettling-the-military-technique-nsw-police-used-to-force-a-black-lives-matter-showdown%ef%bb%bf/
giggle
Arts said:
Rule 303 said:
Michael V said:I like cheese and yoghurt. Never going to convince me.
I like everything but eggplant, and we can hardly blame cows for them.
can we blame chickens?
Chickens with choppers
saving
Cow with guns.
Peak Warming Man said:
http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/20200604-the-ancient-lost-city-teeming-with-lifeNow just leave it alone, no tourists, no scientists, no tracking collars, just fuck off and leave it alone.
You reckon that will happen?
I just realised that my rubbish bins go out more often than i do.
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/20200604-the-ancient-lost-city-teeming-with-lifeNow just leave it alone, no tourists, no scientists, no tracking collars, just fuck off and leave it alone.
You reckon that will happen?
Nah. Excavate it, uncover the ruins, record and decipher the hieroglyphs and carvings. Publish, debate, document and blah. This will keep archaeologists employed for years.
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/20200604-the-ancient-lost-city-teeming-with-lifeNow just leave it alone, no tourists, no scientists, no tracking collars, just fuck off and leave it alone.
You reckon that will happen?
Wonder how the Sentinelese are going, someone tried to Bring God To Them but now we have COVID-19.
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
Peak Warming Man said:Not an eggplant fan here.
Have you had a good moussaka?
I’ve never had one….at all.
If you like lasagne there is a good chance you will like moussaka.
party_pants said:
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/20200604-the-ancient-lost-city-teeming-with-lifeNow just leave it alone, no tourists, no scientists, no tracking collars, just fuck off and leave it alone.
You reckon that will happen?
Nah. Excavate it, uncover the ruins, record and decipher the hieroglyphs and carvings. Publish, debate, document and blah. This will keep archaeologists employed for years.
And as sure as there’s shit in a cat Baldrick will show up with his bucket and spade.
Peak Warming Man said:
party_pants said:
Michael V said:You reckon that will happen?
Nah. Excavate it, uncover the ruins, record and decipher the hieroglyphs and carvings. Publish, debate, document and blah. This will keep archaeologists employed for years.
And as sure as there’s shit in a cat Baldrick will show up with his bucket and spade.
LOL
You mean Sir Baldrick, I presume.
party_pants said:
Tamb said:
Arts said:everyone… I mean I haven’t done any formal studies on it, but anecdotally, every person that I know that is paleo or vegan is also a conspiracy theorist, antivaxxer, flatearther or any combination of them.
A vegan I know drinks wine. He was peeved to find out it took the lives of countless yeast organisms to make it.Animals are multicellular. Yeast are not animals.
Yeasts are eukaryotic, single-celled microorganisms classified as members of the fungus kingdom. The first yeast originated hundreds of millions of years ago, and at least 1,500 species are currently recognized. They are estimated to constitute 1% of all described fungal species.
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
party_pants said:Nah. Excavate it, uncover the ruins, record and decipher the hieroglyphs and carvings. Publish, debate, document and blah. This will keep archaeologists employed for years.
And as sure as there’s shit in a cat Baldrick will show up with his bucket and spade.
LOL
You mean Sir Baldrick, I presume.
Ohh, he’s been gonged then.
party_pants said:
Tamb said:
party_pants said:Animals are multicellular. Yeast are not animals.
Vegans don’t drink milk so yeast is no stretch.Vegans don’t drink milk because it comes from a cow or goat (or similar approved) kept by humans for the specific purpose.
For cows to produce milk, they have to give birth to a calf. Most calves are separated from their mother within 24 hours of birth to reduce the risk of disease transmission to the calf, and most do not stay on the farm for long.
The term ‘bobby calves’ refers to newborn calves that are less than 30 days old and not with their mothers. Essentially, they are surplus to dairy industry requirements as they are not required for the milking herd. This applies to all bull calves (males) and about one quarter of heifer calves (females) born each year. And, each year, around 450,000 of these bobby calves are destined for slaughter.
https://kb.rspca.org.au/knowledge-base/what-happens-to-bobby-calves/
A Million-Mile Battery From China Could Power Your Electric Car
The Chinese behemoth that makes electric-car batteries for Tesla Inc. and Volkswagen AG developed a power pack that lasts more than a million miles — an industry landmark and a potential boon for automakers trying to sway drivers to their EV models.
Contemporary Amperex Technology Co. Ltd. is ready to produce a battery that lasts 16 years and 2 million kilometers (1.24 million miles), Chairman Zeng Yuqun said in an interview at company headquarters in Ningde, southeastern China. Warranties on batteries currently used in electric cars cover about 150,000 miles or eight years, according to BloombergNEF.
Extending that lifespan is viewed as a key advance because the pack could be reused in a second vehicle. That would lower the expense of owning an electric vehicle, a positive for an industry that’s seeking to recover sales momentum lost to the coronavirus outbreak and the slumping oil prices that made gas guzzlers more competitive.
Read More:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-06-07/a-million-mile-battery-from-china-could-power-your-electric-car?
Witty Rejoinder said:
A Million-Mile Battery From China Could Power Your Electric CarThe Chinese behemoth that makes electric-car batteries for Tesla Inc. and Volkswagen AG developed a power pack that lasts more than a million miles — an industry landmark and a potential boon for automakers trying to sway drivers to their EV models.
Contemporary Amperex Technology Co. Ltd. is ready to produce a battery that lasts 16 years and 2 million kilometers (1.24 million miles), Chairman Zeng Yuqun said in an interview at company headquarters in Ningde, southeastern China. Warranties on batteries currently used in electric cars cover about 150,000 miles or eight years, according to BloombergNEF.
Extending that lifespan is viewed as a key advance because the pack could be reused in a second vehicle. That would lower the expense of owning an electric vehicle, a positive for an industry that’s seeking to recover sales momentum lost to the coronavirus outbreak and the slumping oil prices that made gas guzzlers more competitive.
Read More:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-06-07/a-million-mile-battery-from-china-could-power-your-electric-car?
nup
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:And as sure as there’s shit in a cat Baldrick will show up with his bucket and spade.
LOL
You mean Sir Baldrick, I presume.
Ohh, he’s been gonged then.
Yes. Sir Anthony Robinson.
party_pants said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
A Million-Mile Battery From China Could Power Your Electric CarThe Chinese behemoth that makes electric-car batteries for Tesla Inc. and Volkswagen AG developed a power pack that lasts more than a million miles — an industry landmark and a potential boon for automakers trying to sway drivers to their EV models.
Contemporary Amperex Technology Co. Ltd. is ready to produce a battery that lasts 16 years and 2 million kilometers (1.24 million miles), Chairman Zeng Yuqun said in an interview at company headquarters in Ningde, southeastern China. Warranties on batteries currently used in electric cars cover about 150,000 miles or eight years, according to BloombergNEF.
Extending that lifespan is viewed as a key advance because the pack could be reused in a second vehicle. That would lower the expense of owning an electric vehicle, a positive for an industry that’s seeking to recover sales momentum lost to the coronavirus outbreak and the slumping oil prices that made gas guzzlers more competitive.
Read More:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-06-07/a-million-mile-battery-from-china-could-power-your-electric-car?
nup
imagine the amount of 5G surveillance you could do with that
PermeateFree said:
hey, I like that :)
SCIENCE said:
party_pants said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
A Million-Mile Battery From China Could Power Your Electric CarThe Chinese behemoth that makes electric-car batteries for Tesla Inc. and Volkswagen AG developed a power pack that lasts more than a million miles — an industry landmark and a potential boon for automakers trying to sway drivers to their EV models.
Contemporary Amperex Technology Co. Ltd. is ready to produce a battery that lasts 16 years and 2 million kilometers (1.24 million miles), Chairman Zeng Yuqun said in an interview at company headquarters in Ningde, southeastern China. Warranties on batteries currently used in electric cars cover about 150,000 miles or eight years, according to BloombergNEF.
Extending that lifespan is viewed as a key advance because the pack could be reused in a second vehicle. That would lower the expense of owning an electric vehicle, a positive for an industry that’s seeking to recover sales momentum lost to the coronavirus outbreak and the slumping oil prices that made gas guzzlers more competitive.
Read More:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-06-07/a-million-mile-battery-from-china-could-power-your-electric-car?
nup
imagine the amount of 5G surveillance you could do with that
nup
Tamb said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Rule 303 said:I feel like I’ve lost the thread of your point here, mate. I’m sorry.
It’s simple enough.
For those people who choose not to eat food that involves the killing of healthy animals, it makes sense not to eat dairy products, as well as not eating meat.
That’s all.
But soy milk in coffee is fnrkn orrible.
This be true.. Soy milk in coffee is ‘orrible.
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:
The Rev Dodgson said:It’s simple enough.
For those people who choose not to eat food that involves the killing of healthy animals, it makes sense not to eat dairy products, as well as not eating meat.
That’s all.
But soy milk in coffee is fnrkn orrible.
This be true.. Soy milk in coffee is ‘orrible.
Just wrong.
Fast dog
https://i.imgur.com/segwHPk.mp4
Anyway, continuing on from the archaeology comments earlier, I have to say I am in two minds on the whole archaeology thing.
I really love the science involved in it, the method, the technology, and the logical thinking and deductive reasoning.
But I am still unconvinced on its ultimate worth.
party_pants said:
Anyway, continuing on from the archaeology comments earlier, I have to say I am in two minds on the whole archaeology thing.I really love the science involved in it, the method, the technology, and the logical thinking and deductive reasoning.
But I am still unconvinced on its ultimate worth.
Makes a lot of money from tourism.
party_pants said:
Anyway, continuing on from the archaeology comments earlier, I have to say I am in two minds on the whole archaeology thing.I really love the science involved in it, the method, the technology, and the logical thinking and deductive reasoning.
But I am still unconvinced on its ultimate worth.
those who fail to learn from the past are doomed to repeat it??
Seems I’m part of a trend:
Northern Midlands Council receives increased number of dog complaints
https://www.examiner.com.au/story/6780501/dog-complaints-rises-at-northern-midlands/
Arts said:
party_pants said:
Anyway, continuing on from the archaeology comments earlier, I have to say I am in two minds on the whole archaeology thing.I really love the science involved in it, the method, the technology, and the logical thinking and deductive reasoning.
But I am still unconvinced on its ultimate worth.
those who fail to learn from the past are doomed to repeat it??
:) Isn’t this why we study history?
Bubblecar said:
Seems I’m part of a trend:Northern Midlands Council receives increased number of dog complaints
https://www.examiner.com.au/story/6780501/dog-complaints-rises-at-northern-midlands/
I’m in a kids on motorbikes trend.
party_pants said:
Anyway, continuing on from the archaeology comments earlier, I have to say I am in two minds on the whole archaeology thing.I really love the science involved in it, the method, the technology, and the logical thinking and deductive reasoning.
But I am still unconvinced on its ultimate worth.
The past is interesting to many people, so studying what remains of it is worthwhile.
watching Blade of the Immortal. Manga and rather gory. I mean some samurai is pretty gory but when two are immortal and can’t die, well they can but only under some special conditions, it is even more gory.
Bogsnorkler said:
watching Blade of the Immortal. Manga and rather gory. I mean some samurai is pretty gory but when two are immortal and can’t die, well they can but only under some special conditions, it is even more gory.
As long as you’re aware that it’s not real you should be OK.
Arts said:
party_pants said:
Anyway, continuing on from the archaeology comments earlier, I have to say I am in two minds on the whole archaeology thing.I really love the science involved in it, the method, the technology, and the logical thinking and deductive reasoning.
But I am still unconvinced on its ultimate worth.
those who fail to learn from the past are doomed to repeat it??
Yeah but, what lesson from the past are we missing out on if we dig up a bronze age burial mound that is just like the thousand other such mounds already dug up? What are we hoping to find, a bronze slide-rule?
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
Anyway, continuing on from the archaeology comments earlier, I have to say I am in two minds on the whole archaeology thing.I really love the science involved in it, the method, the technology, and the logical thinking and deductive reasoning.
But I am still unconvinced on its ultimate worth.
The past is interesting to many people, so studying what remains of it is worthwhile.
I could be an archaeologist. I find it immensely interesting. But I still don’t really grasp the importance of it. I think history is more important than just understanding the physical objects.
party_pants said:
Arts said:
party_pants said:
Anyway, continuing on from the archaeology comments earlier, I have to say I am in two minds on the whole archaeology thing.I really love the science involved in it, the method, the technology, and the logical thinking and deductive reasoning.
But I am still unconvinced on its ultimate worth.
those who fail to learn from the past are doomed to repeat it??
Yeah but, what lesson from the past are we missing out on if we dig up a bronze age burial mound that is just like the thousand other such mounds already dug up? What are we hoping to find, a bronze slide-rule?
Historical artifacts help confirm or bring into question our stories about where we came from, and that’s important to most people. We do have a pretty strong fetish for the past – There’s even mantra to promote the fetish.
;-)
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
Anyway, continuing on from the archaeology comments earlier, I have to say I am in two minds on the whole archaeology thing.I really love the science involved in it, the method, the technology, and the logical thinking and deductive reasoning.
But I am still unconvinced on its ultimate worth.
The past is interesting to many people, so studying what remains of it is worthwhile.
I could be an archaeologist. I find it immensely interesting. But I still don’t really grasp the importance of it. I think history is more important than just understanding the physical objects.
anyone can make up history… the proof is in the digging.
Arts said:
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:The past is interesting to many people, so studying what remains of it is worthwhile.
I could be an archaeologist. I find it immensely interesting. But I still don’t really grasp the importance of it. I think history is more important than just understanding the physical objects.
anyone can make up history… the proof is in the digging.
OK. I’ll pay that one. Disproving false histories and mythologies used for political propaganda purposes.
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
Anyway, continuing on from the archaeology comments earlier, I have to say I am in two minds on the whole archaeology thing.I really love the science involved in it, the method, the technology, and the logical thinking and deductive reasoning.
But I am still unconvinced on its ultimate worth.
The past is interesting to many people, so studying what remains of it is worthwhile.
I could be an archaeologist. I find it immensely interesting. But I still don’t really grasp the importance of it. I think history is more important than just understanding the physical objects.
For many periods and cultures, “history” is based pretty much entirely on the physical remains. This is obviously the case for preliterate cultures, but the documented writings from many periods are often sparse and full of gaps and errors.
Arts said:
party_pants said:
Anyway, continuing on from the archaeology comments earlier, I have to say I am in two minds on the whole archaeology thing.I really love the science involved in it, the method, the technology, and the logical thinking and deductive reasoning.
But I am still unconvinced on its ultimate worth.
those who fail to learn from the past are doomed to repeat it??
That was the motto of my high school history teacher.
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:The past is interesting to many people, so studying what remains of it is worthwhile.
I could be an archaeologist. I find it immensely interesting. But I still don’t really grasp the importance of it. I think history is more important than just understanding the physical objects.
For many periods and cultures, “history” is based pretty much entirely on the physical remains. This is obviously the case for preliterate cultures, but the documented writings from many periods are often sparse and full of gaps and errors.
For many cultures the artifacts support the oral histories, not vice-versa. Convincing Archeos of this is an interesting prospect, one that I never had much luck with across the foam at Uni, but the Anthrop case for the accuracy of oral history is strong.
If I can give you an example – The presence of a worked stick might suggest the presence of people in the place, but it might not tell you much about what the stick was for, who made it (when, where, how), or why it was there. You need story (oral, graphical, or symbolic) for that.
dear God the water out the tap is cold, really living up to its name, cold water, from the cold tap
btm said:
Arts said:
party_pants said:
Anyway, continuing on from the archaeology comments earlier, I have to say I am in two minds on the whole archaeology thing.I really love the science involved in it, the method, the technology, and the logical thinking and deductive reasoning.
But I am still unconvinced on its ultimate worth.
those who fail to learn from the past are doomed to repeat it??
That was the motto of my high school history teacher.
Some would call it self-justifying mantra, but OK, let’s suppose it’s true – Is there some point at which historians stop learning about the past, and start learning from it? Because unless you think we’re making brand new mistakes, we ain’t struck it yet.
Rule 303 said:
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:I could be an archaeologist. I find it immensely interesting. But I still don’t really grasp the importance of it. I think history is more important than just understanding the physical objects.
For many periods and cultures, “history” is based pretty much entirely on the physical remains. This is obviously the case for preliterate cultures, but the documented writings from many periods are often sparse and full of gaps and errors.
For many cultures the artifacts support the oral histories, not vice-versa. Convincing Archeos of this is an interesting prospect, one that I never had much luck with across the foam at Uni, but the Anthrop case for the accuracy of oral history is strong.
If I can give you an example – The presence of a worked stick might suggest the presence of people in the place, but it might not tell you much about what the stick was for, who made it (when, where, how), or why it was there. You need story (oral, graphical, or symbolic) for that.
Oral history is important in various instances, but many cultures are gone forever, leaving no written or oral history.
transition said:
dear God the water out the tap is cold, really living up to its name, cold water, from the cold tap
Getting your money’s worth then.
Currently -2 in this village but will get colder as the night progresses.
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
dear God the water out the tap is cold, really living up to its name, cold water, from the cold tap
Getting your money’s worth then.
lady’s still using the hot, or warm water, solar is struggling to keep up, so i’m using cold water for washing hands
weatherzone indicates might get down to 2C tonight, town just north from here anyway
I don’t like it, this cold without rain, heading for frosts, no water or very little moisture in the ground to hold the heat to keep the temperature up, keep things from frosting
Bubblecar said:
Rule 303 said:
Bubblecar said:For many periods and cultures, “history” is based pretty much entirely on the physical remains. This is obviously the case for preliterate cultures, but the documented writings from many periods are often sparse and full of gaps and errors.
For many cultures the artifacts support the oral histories, not vice-versa. Convincing Archeos of this is an interesting prospect, one that I never had much luck with across the foam at Uni, but the Anthrop case for the accuracy of oral history is strong.
If I can give you an example – The presence of a worked stick might suggest the presence of people in the place, but it might not tell you much about what the stick was for, who made it (when, where, how), or why it was there. You need story (oral, graphical, or symbolic) for that.
Oral history is important in various instances, but many cultures are gone forever, leaving no written or oral history.
So we’re left with the artifacts proving the presence of the people in the place. I get it. It’s a rather frail source of information, though. There’s no way a scientist would accept it with anything but very low confidence.
Rule 303 said:
Bubblecar said:
Rule 303 said:For many cultures the artifacts support the oral histories, not vice-versa. Convincing Archeos of this is an interesting prospect, one that I never had much luck with across the foam at Uni, but the Anthrop case for the accuracy of oral history is strong.
If I can give you an example – The presence of a worked stick might suggest the presence of people in the place, but it might not tell you much about what the stick was for, who made it (when, where, how), or why it was there. You need story (oral, graphical, or symbolic) for that.
Oral history is important in various instances, but many cultures are gone forever, leaving no written or oral history.
So we’re left with the artifacts proving the presence of the people in the place. I get it. It’s a rather frail source of information, though. There’s no way a scientist would accept it with anything but very low confidence.
Much of prehistory consists of examination of such finds :)
Obviously there’s a lot of speculation involved as the scientists who work in these fields generally make a point of emphasising.
let’s put it this way we don’t really need to know about the zero-curvature-planar earth on the back of elephants on a tortoise to consider a model of planetary dynamics where approximate spheres move in approximate ellipses
Talking about history, the Vikings won this battle in the town of my birth, but were defeated four days later at the Battle of Ashdown.
Battle of Reading (871)
The Battle of Reading was a victory for a Danish Viking army over a West Saxon force on about 4 January 871 at Reading in Berkshire. The Vikings were led by Bagsecg and Halfdan Ragnarsson and the West Saxons by King Æthelred and his brother, the future King Alfred the Great. It was the second of a series of battles that took place following an invasion of Wessex by the Danish army in December 870.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Reading_(871)
Bubblecar said:
Talking about history, the Vikings won this battle in the town of my birth, but were defeated four days later at the Battle of Ashdown.Battle of Reading (871)
The Battle of Reading was a victory for a Danish Viking army over a West Saxon force on about 4 January 871 at Reading in Berkshire. The Vikings were led by Bagsecg and Halfdan Ragnarsson and the West Saxons by King Æthelred and his brother, the future King Alfred the Great. It was the second of a series of battles that took place following an invasion of Wessex by the Danish army in December 870.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Reading_(871)
…even for this period, archaeological finds have caused history to be reinterpreted:
In 2015, two metal detectorists operating without landowner permission found a large hoard near Leominster consisting primarily of Saxon jewellery and silver ingots but also coins; the latter date to around 879. The hoard is believed to have been buried by a Viking during their raids of the area, while Wessex was ruled by Alfred and Mercia by Ceolwulf II. Coins recovered from the treasure hunters depict both kings, “indicating an alliance between the two kingdoms—at least, for a time—that was previously unknown to historians”.
According to Gareth Williams of the British Museum, “these coins enable us to re-interpret our history at a key moment in the creation of England as a single kingdom.” The Guardian suggested that the find “rewrites Anglo-Saxon history … The presence of both kings on the two emperor coins suggests some sort of pact between the pair. But the rarity of the coins also suggests that Alfred quickly dropped his ally, who was just about written out of history.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_the_Great
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Talking about history, the Vikings won this battle in the town of my birth, but were defeated four days later at the Battle of Ashdown.Battle of Reading (871)
The Battle of Reading was a victory for a Danish Viking army over a West Saxon force on about 4 January 871 at Reading in Berkshire. The Vikings were led by Bagsecg and Halfdan Ragnarsson and the West Saxons by King Æthelred and his brother, the future King Alfred the Great. It was the second of a series of battles that took place following an invasion of Wessex by the Danish army in December 870.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Reading_(871)
…even for this period, archaeological finds have caused history to be reinterpreted:
In 2015, two metal detectorists operating without landowner permission found a large hoard near Leominster consisting primarily of Saxon jewellery and silver ingots but also coins; the latter date to around 879. The hoard is believed to have been buried by a Viking during their raids of the area, while Wessex was ruled by Alfred and Mercia by Ceolwulf II. Coins recovered from the treasure hunters depict both kings, “indicating an alliance between the two kingdoms—at least, for a time—that was previously unknown to historians”.
According to Gareth Williams of the British Museum, “these coins enable us to re-interpret our history at a key moment in the creation of England as a single kingdom.” The Guardian suggested that the find “rewrites Anglo-Saxon history … The presence of both kings on the two emperor coins suggests some sort of pact between the pair. But the rarity of the coins also suggests that Alfred quickly dropped his ally, who was just about written out of history.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_the_Great
Hopefully the two metal detectorists looters operating without landowner permission were charged.
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Talking about history, the Vikings won this battle in the town of my birth, but were defeated four days later at the Battle of Ashdown.Battle of Reading (871)
The Battle of Reading was a victory for a Danish Viking army over a West Saxon force on about 4 January 871 at Reading in Berkshire. The Vikings were led by Bagsecg and Halfdan Ragnarsson and the West Saxons by King Æthelred and his brother, the future King Alfred the Great. It was the second of a series of battles that took place following an invasion of Wessex by the Danish army in December 870.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Reading_(871)
…even for this period, archaeological finds have caused history to be reinterpreted:
In 2015, two metal detectorists operating without landowner permission found a large hoard near Leominster consisting primarily of Saxon jewellery and silver ingots but also coins; the latter date to around 879. The hoard is believed to have been buried by a Viking during their raids of the area, while Wessex was ruled by Alfred and Mercia by Ceolwulf II. Coins recovered from the treasure hunters depict both kings, “indicating an alliance between the two kingdoms—at least, for a time—that was previously unknown to historians”.
According to Gareth Williams of the British Museum, “these coins enable us to re-interpret our history at a key moment in the creation of England as a single kingdom.” The Guardian suggested that the find “rewrites Anglo-Saxon history … The presence of both kings on the two emperor coins suggests some sort of pact between the pair. But the rarity of the coins also suggests that Alfred quickly dropped his ally, who was just about written out of history.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_the_Great
Hopefully the two
metal detectoristslooters operating without landowner permission were charged.
Those gadgets don’t work unless they’ve been adequately charged.
yawn
coffee landed
just packed some more carbonaceous material originated of the base of a the mallee tree into my bedroom dephlogisticater
properly such burnables probably don’t satisfy the definition of carbonaceous, but who’s going to quibble regard that
just reading an article sent me, suggesting covid-19 is a vascular disease, can become, infects endothelial cells, something to do with the virus cleaving with a protein called furin
party_pants said:
Arts said:
party_pants said:
Anyway, continuing on from the archaeology comments earlier, I have to say I am in two minds on the whole archaeology thing.I really love the science involved in it, the method, the technology, and the logical thinking and deductive reasoning.
But I am still unconvinced on its ultimate worth.
those who fail to learn from the past are doomed to repeat it??
Yeah but, what lesson from the past are we missing out on if we dig up a bronze age burial mound that is just like the thousand other such mounds already dug up? What are we hoping to find, a bronze slide-rule?
I also happen to agree that preservation of the past means that we can always dig it up later to see why it was preserved if we didn’t make a map of it and put it back the way it was the first time. People are curious.
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
Anyway, continuing on from the archaeology comments earlier, I have to say I am in two minds on the whole archaeology thing.I really love the science involved in it, the method, the technology, and the logical thinking and deductive reasoning.
But I am still unconvinced on its ultimate worth.
The past is interesting to many people, so studying what remains of it is worthwhile.
I could be an archaeologist. I find it immensely interesting. But I still don’t really grasp the importance of it. I think history is more important than just understanding the physical objects.
The physical objects often help to tie the threads of history together. Like forensic science is necessary to unravel the tangled lies.
Arts said:
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:The past is interesting to many people, so studying what remains of it is worthwhile.
I could be an archaeologist. I find it immensely interesting. But I still don’t really grasp the importance of it. I think history is more important than just understanding the physical objects.
anyone can make up history… the proof is in the digging.
My point exactly.
Rule 303 said:
btm said:
Arts said:those who fail to learn from the past are doomed to repeat it??
That was the motto of my high school history teacher.
Some would call it self-justifying mantra, but OK, let’s suppose it’s true – Is there some point at which historians stop learning about the past, and start learning from it? Because unless you think we’re making brand new mistakes, we ain’t struck it yet.
Yes.
transition said:
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
dear God the water out the tap is cold, really living up to its name, cold water, from the cold tap
Getting your money’s worth then.
lady’s still using the hot, or warm water, solar is struggling to keep up, so i’m using cold water for washing hands
weatherzone indicates might get down to 2C tonight, town just north from here anyway
I don’t like it, this cold without rain, heading for frosts, no water or very little moisture in the ground to hold the heat to keep the temperature up, keep things from frosting
Cold without rain is just as bad as 40 degrees without rain. For the plants that is.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Talking about history, the Vikings won this battle in the town of my birth, but were defeated four days later at the Battle of Ashdown.Battle of Reading (871)
The Battle of Reading was a victory for a Danish Viking army over a West Saxon force on about 4 January 871 at Reading in Berkshire. The Vikings were led by Bagsecg and Halfdan Ragnarsson and the West Saxons by King Æthelred and his brother, the future King Alfred the Great. It was the second of a series of battles that took place following an invasion of Wessex by the Danish army in December 870.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Reading_(871)
…even for this period, archaeological finds have caused history to be reinterpreted:
In 2015, two metal detectorists operating without landowner permission found a large hoard near Leominster consisting primarily of Saxon jewellery and silver ingots but also coins; the latter date to around 879. The hoard is believed to have been buried by a Viking during their raids of the area, while Wessex was ruled by Alfred and Mercia by Ceolwulf II. Coins recovered from the treasure hunters depict both kings, “indicating an alliance between the two kingdoms—at least, for a time—that was previously unknown to historians”.
According to Gareth Williams of the British Museum, “these coins enable us to re-interpret our history at a key moment in the creation of England as a single kingdom.” The Guardian suggested that the find “rewrites Anglo-Saxon history … The presence of both kings on the two emperor coins suggests some sort of pact between the pair. But the rarity of the coins also suggests that Alfred quickly dropped his ally, who was just about written out of history.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_the_Great
A snapshot of a small moment of history.
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Talking about history, the Vikings won this battle in the town of my birth, but were defeated four days later at the Battle of Ashdown.Battle of Reading (871)
The Battle of Reading was a victory for a Danish Viking army over a West Saxon force on about 4 January 871 at Reading in Berkshire. The Vikings were led by Bagsecg and Halfdan Ragnarsson and the West Saxons by King Æthelred and his brother, the future King Alfred the Great. It was the second of a series of battles that took place following an invasion of Wessex by the Danish army in December 870.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Reading_(871)
…even for this period, archaeological finds have caused history to be reinterpreted:
In 2015, two metal detectorists operating without landowner permission found a large hoard near Leominster consisting primarily of Saxon jewellery and silver ingots but also coins; the latter date to around 879. The hoard is believed to have been buried by a Viking during their raids of the area, while Wessex was ruled by Alfred and Mercia by Ceolwulf II. Coins recovered from the treasure hunters depict both kings, “indicating an alliance between the two kingdoms—at least, for a time—that was previously unknown to historians”.
According to Gareth Williams of the British Museum, “these coins enable us to re-interpret our history at a key moment in the creation of England as a single kingdom.” The Guardian suggested that the find “rewrites Anglo-Saxon history … The presence of both kings on the two emperor coins suggests some sort of pact between the pair. But the rarity of the coins also suggests that Alfred quickly dropped his ally, who was just about written out of history.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_the_Great
Hopefully the two
metal detectoristslooters operating without landowner permission were charged.
Clearly they didn’t loot it because otherwise it would still be unknown in history.
Not sure why Vikings would bury treasure on Britain when the objective was to take it home with them.
PermeateFree said:
Wow!
Michael V said:
PermeateFree said:
Wow!
Trees are such fascinating beings.
Good morning Holidayers. Presently minus one degrees and as sunup isn’t for nearly an hour it will go lower yet.
Just missed the garbage truck, I think. We are told to put the bins out the night before, but wandering dogs are a problem, so we generally put them out about 7.00am. The collection rarely happens before 10.30 – 11.00am. So today we heard the truck at 6.30am. Ah well, it’s both bins today, so we’ve only missed one pickup. Don’t know which one was being done first, so both are now out. We will either have a recycleable or a rubbish bin clear and the other still with stuff in it. I hope it was the recycle we missed, because the rubbish bin has rose prunings in it and I’d like them to go so I can do the next rose.
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently minus one degrees and as sunup isn’t for nearly an hour it will go lower yet.Just missed the garbage truck, I think. We are told to put the bins out the night before, but wandering dogs are a problem, so we generally put them out about 7.00am. The collection rarely happens before 10.30 – 11.00am. So today we heard the truck at 6.30am. Ah well, it’s both bins today, so we’ve only missed one pickup. Don’t know which one was being done first, so both are now out. We will either have a recycleable or a rubbish bin clear and the other still with stuff in it. I hope it was the recycle we missed, because the rubbish bin has rose prunings in it and I’d like them to go so I can do the next rose.
Around here it is the recycle truck that arrives earliest.
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently minus one degrees and as sunup isn’t for nearly an hour it will go lower yet.Just missed the garbage truck, I think. We are told to put the bins out the night before, but wandering dogs are a problem, so we generally put them out about 7.00am. The collection rarely happens before 10.30 – 11.00am. So today we heard the truck at 6.30am. Ah well, it’s both bins today, so we’ve only missed one pickup. Don’t know which one was being done first, so both are now out. We will either have a recycleable or a rubbish bin clear and the other still with stuff in it. I hope it was the recycle we missed, because the rubbish bin has rose prunings in it and I’d like them to go so I can do the next rose.
Around here it is the recycle truck that arrives earliest.
Yesterday was the other side of the street’s bin day. The garbage truck was right behind the recycling truck. Can’t recall that ever happening before.
Our street has two different bin days because, before amalgamation, the other side was a different council area.
Divine Angel said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently minus one degrees and as sunup isn’t for nearly an hour it will go lower yet.Just missed the garbage truck, I think. We are told to put the bins out the night before, but wandering dogs are a problem, so we generally put them out about 7.00am. The collection rarely happens before 10.30 – 11.00am. So today we heard the truck at 6.30am. Ah well, it’s both bins today, so we’ve only missed one pickup. Don’t know which one was being done first, so both are now out. We will either have a recycleable or a rubbish bin clear and the other still with stuff in it. I hope it was the recycle we missed, because the rubbish bin has rose prunings in it and I’d like them to go so I can do the next rose.
Around here it is the recycle truck that arrives earliest.
Yesterday was the other side of the street’s bin day. The garbage truck was right behind the recycling truck. Can’t recall that ever happening before.
Our street has two different bin days because, before amalgamation, the other side was a different council area.
Here it is the same truck, so in general I think the recycling is done first because it is less dirty.
Good morning everyone.
C…o…f…f…e…e…?
Done.
It’s a cool 14.3°C and 69% RH. The sun has risen above the coastal clouds, and it should be a lovely day. BoM tells me to expect a maximum of 22°C and that there’s a bit a a chance of rain. Doesn’t look like much yet, though.
I’m hoping my newly purchased Hare & Forbes welding table will arrive today. So I might get to continue work on the bamboo splitter. In the mean time, I’ll faff about in the shed, organising and cleaning stuff. And maybe cutting some glue-on pieces of plywood to help to hang a few more paintings. The MDF I cut the other day will not do the job. Or at least I don’t feel confident enough to rely on it.
Breakfast? Dunno what yet. Mrs V’s having sultana and oats milk porridge. Too sweet for me today. Lunch is apparently going to be steamed skippy and vegetable wontons, with some sort of dipping sauce. Luckily I have already made the wontons. I’ll have to make some more tomorrow, though.
I hope you all have a great day.
:)
Had an interesting afternoon yesterday. Mrs rb wanted to go for a walk and show me what the works along the canal bank were doing to the regeneration that had occurred on the banks since the canal was renovated. My opine was, “Technically, they are the owners of this bit of land and if you remember back in the 80’s when we were in discussions with the WRC regarding repplanting and regenerating canal banks, they advised us that they needed access area to the canal bank for continuation of works. In other words they don’t want trees or shrubs here and they’ll keep knocking them over as long as somebody wants water in a channel here”.
I said I might go home and get a bucket and shovel to dig up this Eutaxia microphylla because it is a very rare plant remnant of the local ecosystem.
Immediately prior to walking along the canal bank, Mrs rb had said, “Those kids on motorbikes are at it again and the police told me to take photos”. So she got her phone out. I did warn her not to let them see her taking photos.
Back to the chase, When I said I wanted to save the one plant, she said she wanted to keep walking over the hill while I did that.
Upon walking back past the kids on bikes, they charged towards me screaming abuse that I had been taking photos of children without permission. I do mean abuse. I was taught not to abuse my elders. So all I did was keep walking with only the reply that I did not take photos. These kids continued to scream abuse at me and call for their father at the same time. I kept walking. Their father took a short cut across country and he and his kids caught up. During this time I texted Mrs rb and told her to do the whole round trip. Don’t come back this way because I am being accosted.
Father wanted to accuse me of taking photos of his kids without permission and was like his kids, extremely irate and offensive. I maintained that I had not taken photos of his kids and that he could examine my phone if he wanted. That I had done nothing to his kids nor anything wrong.
Then I told him that everything he was teaching his children was illegal. That they were all under ten or twelve they all had motorbikes and though they had helmets, they had no licenses unregisterd vehicles they were contravening road rules and laws governing the use of crown lands.
He wanted a fight. I said you can try that but it will only make things worse. Then he said “I’ll call the police”. To which my reply was, “Go ahead, I’d like to see what they make of this”. I walked away. Got home and my phone rang, Mrs rb. I told her what went on and she said well you’d better come and pick me up in the car.
Couldn’t do that. His car was coming in my driveway blocking me.
I thought here we go.
He proceeded to tell me that his kids didn’t ride over my side of the village which I know is a lie even if it was what he believed. The good wife had called the cops the week before because not only did they expect her to get off the road(it is a narrow track but still a gazetted and signposted road) as they barrelled down it without care of her but they’d stashed one bike in the bushes, presumably out of fuel.
The cops did come three hours later but all the kids had vanished moments before I saw the bundy wagon. They’d also removed the stashed bike beforehand.
He also told me that all the people on his side of the village had given him permission to let the kids ride on the crown land behind him. The village comprises a main road a row of houses each side with crown land behind each side and another road each side behind the strip of crown land. The kids ride everywhere. Up and down all three roads and any crossings, they ride around in the local park and playground and they trash any of the remnant vegetation by basically bulldozing it out of their way. They are a hazard to elderly people walking for exercise as well as to legitimate traffic and themselves. The noise is maddening and if you were thinking of walking to get fresh air, it is coompromised by the fumes of motorbikes.
Anyway I tried to gently persuade the man that the people who give him permission to ride on crown land are also in breach of the law because it is not their land to control.
Eventually he left after trying to shake my hand in these coronavirus restriction times. Believing he had won me over because I was trying to be gentle and avoid conflict.
In truth he is obviously an ignoramus who gets want he wants by bullying and threatening and everyone else looks the other way.
Anyway, I’m over any attempts to involve the police. Though the good wife isn’t.
I’ll be sending a letter to the Natural Resource Management Project Officer
NSW Department of Primary Industries | Land & Natural Resources, whom I’ve met before and discussed the usage of this land, a large part of which I have personally planted up with natives grown by my own hand and have been the sole protector of the rare remnants which these kids brazenly chuck wheelies on top of.
As a consequence, I can hear the excavator riping the Eutaxia out about now. I never got to attempt to transplant it.
It is cold out there. Backyard frost and ice on the car.
Been to the bakery for bread and milk and a mocha. And a sausage roll for breakfast. The rest of today’s excitements include a haircut and some gardening. After a frosty morning, it should be a lovely day for weeding amongst the leaves of the bulbs which are starting to push up.
I was informed by the weather app that it would be sunny and dry today. It rained when I dropped Mini Me at school.
Divine Angel said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently minus one degrees and as sunup isn’t for nearly an hour it will go lower yet.Just missed the garbage truck, I think. We are told to put the bins out the night before, but wandering dogs are a problem, so we generally put them out about 7.00am. The collection rarely happens before 10.30 – 11.00am. So today we heard the truck at 6.30am. Ah well, it’s both bins today, so we’ve only missed one pickup. Don’t know which one was being done first, so both are now out. We will either have a recycleable or a rubbish bin clear and the other still with stuff in it. I hope it was the recycle we missed, because the rubbish bin has rose prunings in it and I’d like them to go so I can do the next rose.
Around here it is the recycle truck that arrives earliest.
Yesterday was the other side of the street’s bin day. The garbage truck was right behind the recycling truck. Can’t recall that ever happening before.
Our street has two different bin days because, before amalgamation, the other side was a different council area.
Every bin morning when I hear the truck, I wake up in a panic trying to remember whether the bins were taken out. Having that happen twice a week doesn’t sound like fun.
buffy said:
It is cold out there. Backyard frost and ice on the car.
Brrrrrrrrrr.
I’ve got the fire extinguisher hung near the kitchen door. A good job well jobbed.
:)
Divine Angel said:
I was informed by the weather app that it would be sunny and dry today. It rained when I dropped Mini Me at school.
Naughty weather app. Very naughty, tricking you that way…
;)
It actually got down to 0° in Essendon this morning. Been awhile since I remember that happening.
Morning punters and correctors.
I remember a famous person saying if it’s cold and you don’t need to get out of bed stay in bed if you want to.
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently minus one degrees and as sunup isn’t for nearly an hour it will go lower yet.Just missed the garbage truck, I think. We are told to put the bins out the night before, but wandering dogs are a problem, so we generally put them out about 7.00am. The collection rarely happens before 10.30 – 11.00am. So today we heard the truck at 6.30am. Ah well, it’s both bins today, so we’ve only missed one pickup. Don’t know which one was being done first, so both are now out. We will either have a recycleable or a rubbish bin clear and the other still with stuff in it. I hope it was the recycle we missed, because the rubbish bin has rose prunings in it and I’d like them to go so I can do the next rose.
Around here it is the recycle truck that arrives earliest.
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning punters and correctors.
I remember a famous person saying if it’s cold and you don’t need to get out of bed stay in bed if you want to.
The ancients had great wisdom.
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently minus one degrees and as sunup isn’t for nearly an hour it will go lower yet.Just missed the garbage truck, I think. We are told to put the bins out the night before, but wandering dogs are a problem, so we generally put them out about 7.00am. The collection rarely happens before 10.30 – 11.00am. So today we heard the truck at 6.30am. Ah well, it’s both bins today, so we’ve only missed one pickup. Don’t know which one was being done first, so both are now out. We will either have a recycleable or a rubbish bin clear and the other still with stuff in it. I hope it was the recycle we missed, because the rubbish bin has rose prunings in it and I’d like them to go so I can do the next rose.
Around here it is the recycle truck that arrives earliest.
Recycle here too.
Fortunately it goes down the other side of the road first & makes enough noise to wake me if it’s very early.
Rubbish bin very early, recycle bin (yellow top) not until about 10 or 11am.
Over.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning punters and correctors.
I remember a famous person saying if it’s cold and you don’t need to get out of bed stay in bed if you want to.
The ancients had great wisdom.
“If a soiled shirt is placed in the opening of a vessel containing grains of wheat,” he wrote, “the reaction of the leaven in the shirt with fumes from the wheat will, after approximately 21 days, transform the wheat into mice.”
Peak Warming Man said:
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:Around here it is the recycle truck that arrives earliest.
Recycle here too.
Fortunately it goes down the other side of the road first & makes enough noise to wake me if it’s very early.Rubbish bin very early, recycle bin (yellow top) not until about 10 or 11am.
Over.
bin day here too. yellow top done. green top waits patiently for its turn.
Bogsnorkler said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning punters and correctors.
I remember a famous person saying if it’s cold and you don’t need to get out of bed stay in bed if you want to.
The ancients had great wisdom.
“If a soiled shirt is placed in the opening of a vessel containing grains of wheat,” he wrote, “the reaction of the leaven in the shirt with fumes from the wheat will, after approximately 21 days, transform the wheat into mice.”
https://www.wired.com/2014/06/fantastically-wrong-how-to-grow-a-mouse-out-of-wheat-and-sweaty-shirts/
Bogsnorkler said:
Bogsnorkler said:
The Rev Dodgson said:The ancients had great wisdom.
“If a soiled shirt is placed in the opening of a vessel containing grains of wheat,” he wrote, “the reaction of the leaven in the shirt with fumes from the wheat will, after approximately 21 days, transform the wheat into mice.”
https://www.wired.com/2014/06/fantastically-wrong-how-to-grow-a-mouse-out-of-wheat-and-sweaty-shirts/
You can’t know that that’s false until you have carried out a double blind study with randomised controls to confirm it first hand.
Greetings
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-09/australia-can-learn-from-swedens-move-to-a-cashless-society/12282764
And as I’ve said before…we have experienced 2 weeks without eftpos or internet in this district. Because one telephone exchange burnt down. I’m not sure how that would work in a city. Knock out your power and or telephone and nobody can participate in commerce. I suspect it could take one good solar storm.
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-09/australia-can-learn-from-swedens-move-to-a-cashless-society/12282764And as I’ve said before…we have experienced 2 weeks without eftpos or internet in this district. Because one telephone exchange burnt down. I’m not sure how that would work in a city. Knock out your power and or telephone and nobody can participate in commerce. I suspect it could take one good solar storm.
Could shut down modern society
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-09/australia-can-learn-from-swedens-move-to-a-cashless-society/12282764And as I’ve said before…we have experienced 2 weeks without eftpos or internet in this district. Because one telephone exchange burnt down. I’m not sure how that would work in a city. Knock out your power and or telephone and nobody can participate in commerce. I suspect it could take one good solar storm.
I have a vague recollection that somewhere in Canada was knocked out by a solar storm for a while.
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-09/australia-can-learn-from-swedens-move-to-a-cashless-society/12282764And as I’ve said before…we have experienced 2 weeks without eftpos or internet in this district. Because one telephone exchange burnt down. I’m not sure how that would work in a city. Knock out your power and or telephone and nobody can participate in commerce. I suspect it could take one good solar storm.
The dishwasher repair bloke tells me the computer network at Fischer & Paykel has been down for four weeks and they can’t provide any parts within Australia. He also tells me that the parts for our dishwasher took six weeks because everybody is working from home. I don’t know about any of this.
Bit of an EMERGENCY here, not an 000 one, out of tea, but yeah.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bit of an EMERGENCY here, not an 000 one, out of tea, but yeah.
try 112 then
Peak Warming Man said:
Bit of an EMERGENCY here, not an 000 one, out of tea, but yeah.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8400267/American-woman-viral-hot-tea-recipe-shares-British-tea-technique.html
She has to be taking the piss.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bit of an EMERGENCY here, not an 000 one, out of tea, but yeah.
Out of TEA! Jesus!
>radios the pilot to warm up the helicopter<
Can you smoke some banana leaves or boil up a golden top or chew some peyote or lick a toad or something until we can get there?
DA our sooky bunny
Cymek said:
DA our sooky bunny
aren’t you just asking for trouble having a rabbit and a ferret?
Bogsnorkler said:
Cymek said:
DA our sooky bunny
aren’t you just asking for trouble having a rabbit and a ferret?
Plus 4 guinea pigs, they don’t met each other
Cymek said:
DA our sooky bunny
Awwww
Novel word counting
Rule 303 said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bit of an EMERGENCY here, not an 000 one, out of tea, but yeah.
Out of TEA! Jesus!
>radios the pilot to warm up the helicopter<
Can you smoke some banana leaves or boil up a golden top or chew some peyote or lick a toad or something until we can get there?
Peak Warming Man said:
Bit of an EMERGENCY here, not an 000 one, out of tea, but yeah.
Well that’s bad
Peak Warming Man said:
Bit of an EMERGENCY here, not an 000 one, out of tea, but yeah.
water, clear with one.
over.
second cat in the yard lastnight, a black one, lady heard a commotion from barbara, ran out to look up the tree and the cat was up in barbara’s spot and barbara had gone, so lady hissed at the cat, it took off, we did a couple looks around the yard with torches and larry, he’s good on a scent trail the larry, you can see him reading a map on the ground, anyway cat seemed to have got the message
barbara’s home this morn, returned from her secret alternate emergency hideaway, which is so secret even lady and I don’t know where it is, and there’s a rumor barbara kills anyone or any creature that finds it, so we’re just happy we don’t know, and she’s home safe
Peak Warming Man said:
Bit of an EMERGENCY here, not an 000 one, out of tea, but yeah.
Call the cavalry!
(CNN)The US Department of Justice has requested an interview with Prince Andrew as part of its criminal investigation into the alleged sex trafficking ring once operated by Jeffrey Epstein, according to a person familiar with the matter.
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/08/uk/prince-andrew-us-doj-epstein-investigation-gbr-intl/index.html
dv said:
(CNN)The US Department of Justice has requested an interview with Prince Andrew as part of its criminal investigation into the alleged sex trafficking ring once operated by Jeffrey Epstein, according to a person familiar with the matter.
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/08/uk/prince-andrew-us-doj-epstein-investigation-gbr-intl/index.html
I wonder what would happen if he was charged and found guilty (assuming that’s allowed)
dv said:
(CNN)The US Department of Justice has requested an interview with Prince Andrew as part of its criminal investigation into the alleged sex trafficking ring once operated by Jeffrey Epstein, according to a person familiar with the matter.
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/08/uk/prince-andrew-us-doj-epstein-investigation-gbr-intl/index.html
Ooo.
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bit of an EMERGENCY here, not an 000 one, out of tea, but yeah.
Call the cavalry!
Better still, call Kamahl.
dv said:
(CNN)The US Department of Justice has requested an interview with Prince Andrew as part of its criminal investigation into the alleged sex trafficking ring once operated by Jeffrey Epstein, according to a person familiar with the matter.
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/08/uk/prince-andrew-us-doj-epstein-investigation-gbr-intl/index.html
they are really going from the top down, eh? there is a passenger list floating around of people who took rides on scumbag epsteins plane to his island…
Looks like I’m going searching.
If you see an 8yo kid wandering aimlessly around the Mt. Disappointment State Forest, point him my way, will you please?
Rule 303 said:
Looks like I’m going searching.If you see an 8yo kid wandering aimlessly around the Mt. Disappointment State Forest, point him my way, will you please?
My guess is that he will be huddled somewhere, maybe even hiding. It would have been a cold night :(
Rule 303 said:
Looks like I’m going searching.If you see an 8yo kid wandering aimlessly around the Mt. Disappointment State Forest, point him my way, will you please?
Hope you find him..
Speedy said:
Rule 303 said:
Looks like I’m going searching.If you see an 8yo kid wandering aimlessly around the Mt. Disappointment State Forest, point him my way, will you please?
My guess is that he will be huddled somewhere, maybe even hiding. It would have been a cold night :(
14. I’m sorry, he’s 14.
Highly unpredictable. Highly mobile. (Autistic, non-verbal, energetic, likely to avoid people, 24-hour head start, very rugged country.)
The odds are against him at this point, but the weather should give him a long likely survival time. I dare say you’ll hear about the outcome.
Rule 303 said:
Speedy said:
Rule 303 said:
Looks like I’m going searching.If you see an 8yo kid wandering aimlessly around the Mt. Disappointment State Forest, point him my way, will you please?
My guess is that he will be huddled somewhere, maybe even hiding. It would have been a cold night :(
14. I’m sorry, he’s 14.
Highly unpredictable. Highly mobile. (Autistic, non-verbal, energetic, likely to avoid people, 24-hour head start, very rugged country.)
The odds are against him at this point, but the weather should give him a long likely survival time. I dare say you’ll hear about the outcome.
It was on the wireless while I was driving to meet my tea dealer.
Rule 303 said:
Looks like I’m going searching.If you see an 8yo kid wandering aimlessly around the Mt. Disappointment State Forest, point him my way, will you please?
Good luck!
Perils of working from home #37
SWMBO is working from home so she has set up in the family room which is open plan and next to the kitchen.
I go in to start preparing and cooking some lunch. It’s a cold day so she requested that I do Buffy’s famous soup. So I’ve gone into the kitchen, turned on the oven, taken chicken stock out of the freezer and I begin to chop up onions and tomatoes.
SWMBO has a phone to her ear and starts yammering away. There’s a short break and then yammering. The yammering starts to get louder. Eventuaklly she comes up and asks why I’m not listening to her.
Me: bemused look “you’re on the phone”
SWMBO: “I’m on hold and have been asking you a question”.
ME: …….
One of my girlfriends still has her young son at home from school…
‘just when I’m about to tell him to get off that screen and do something useful I realise he’s teaching himself another language… 🙄’
I finally got around to watching Nannette last night…
now I see what people are talking about… it was not at all what I expected. But I think it also needed to be said.
sibeen said:
Perils of working from home #37SWMBO is working from home so she has set up in the family room which is open plan and next to the kitchen.
I go in to start preparing and cooking some lunch. It’s a cold day so she requested that I do Buffy’s famous soup. So I’ve gone into the kitchen, turned on the oven, taken chicken stock out of the freezer and I begin to chop up onions and tomatoes.
SWMBO has a phone to her ear and starts yammering away. There’s a short break and then yammering. The yammering starts to get louder. Eventuaklly she comes up and asks why I’m not listening to her.
Me: bemused look “you’re on the phone”
SWMBO: “I’m on hold and have been asking you a question”.
ME: …….
you should listen to your wife more.
Back again.
Deployment to search cancelled. Too many people to manage already. Uncertain why they requested more.
Over.
Rule 303 said:
Back again.Deployment to search cancelled. Too many people to manage already. Uncertain why they requested more.
Over.
have they tried Ctrl-F or just F3
Arts said:
I finally got around to watching Nannette last night…now I see what people are talking about… it was not at all what I expected. But I think it also needed to be said.
Yeah, she did a hell of a good job of that.
She’s just released the follow-up, ‘Douglas’, which is also good.
Halfway through the roast and I’ve added some garlic and basil.
sibeen said:
![]()
Halfway through the roast and I’ve added some garlic and basil.
Then what happens?
now that COVID-19 terror is over despite actually not being safe yet especially after mass weekend gatherings
we had the fluoride 5G immunisation crowd and here’s the next step
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-06/a-toddler-died-after-drinking-it-now-raw-milk-advocates-want-it/12311668
Rule 303 said:
Arts said:
I finally got around to watching Nannette last night…now I see what people are talking about… it was not at all what I expected. But I think it also needed to be said.
Yeah, she did a hell of a good job of that.
She’s just released the follow-up, ‘Douglas’, which is also good.
yes I watched that one last week, which was the prompt I like Douglas in the stand up comedy way.. nanette was not so much, but still important probably more importanter
SCIENCE said:
now that COVID-19 terror is over despite actually not being safe yet especially after mass weekend gatheringswe had the fluoride 5G immunisation crowd and here’s the next step
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-06/a-toddler-died-after-drinking-it-now-raw-milk-advocates-want-it/12311668
Fine. Great. Go ahead, guzzle all the ‘raw milks’ you want. Pour it into your children by the hogshead.
As long as, when you or your kids become seriously ill, you don’t mind having it plastered across the media that the illness was due to your dickheaded desire to be seen as trendy.
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
now that COVID-19 terror is over despite actually not being safe yet especially after mass weekend gatheringswe had the fluoride 5G immunisation crowd and here’s the next step
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-06/a-toddler-died-after-drinking-it-now-raw-milk-advocates-want-it/12311668
Fine. Great. Go ahead, guzzle all the ‘raw milks’ you want. Pour it into your children by the hogshead.
As long as, when you or your kids become seriously ill, you don’t mind having it plastered across the media that the illness was due to your dickheaded desire to be seen as trendy.
I have never heard of bath milk before… certainly never seen it on the shelves.
sarahs mum said:
One of my girlfriends still has her young son at home from school…‘just when I’m about to tell him to get off that screen and do something useful I realise he’s teaching himself another language… 🙄’
LOLOLOLOL.
Arts said:
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
now that COVID-19 terror is over despite actually not being safe yet especially after mass weekend gatheringswe had the fluoride 5G immunisation crowd and here’s the next step
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-06/a-toddler-died-after-drinking-it-now-raw-milk-advocates-want-it/12311668
Fine. Great. Go ahead, guzzle all the ‘raw milks’ you want. Pour it into your children by the hogshead.
As long as, when you or your kids become seriously ill, you don’t mind having it plastered across the media that the illness was due to your dickheaded desire to be seen as trendy.
I have never heard of bath milk before… certainly never seen it on the shelves.
You get goat milk from goats, camel milk from camels, reindeer milk from reindeer.
Bath milk?
captain_spalding said:
Arts said:
captain_spalding said:Fine. Great. Go ahead, guzzle all the ‘raw milks’ you want. Pour it into your children by the hogshead.
As long as, when you or your kids become seriously ill, you don’t mind having it plastered across the media that the illness was due to your dickheaded desire to be seen as trendy.
I have never heard of bath milk before… certainly never seen it on the shelves.
You get goat milk from goats, camel milk from camels, reindeer milk from reindeer.
Bath milk?
oh, it’s like baby oil… gotcha.
captain_spalding said:
Arts said:
captain_spalding said:Fine. Great. Go ahead, guzzle all the ‘raw milks’ you want. Pour it into your children by the hogshead.
As long as, when you or your kids become seriously ill, you don’t mind having it plastered across the media that the illness was due to your dickheaded desire to be seen as trendy.
I have never heard of bath milk before… certainly never seen it on the shelves.
You get goat milk from goats, camel milk from camels, reindeer milk from reindeer.
Bath milk?
You don’t want to know :)
SCIENCE said:
now that COVID-19 terror is over despite actually not being safe yet especially after mass weekend gatheringswe had the fluoride 5G immunisation crowd and here’s the next step
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-06/a-toddler-died-after-drinking-it-now-raw-milk-advocates-want-it/12311668
No thanks. More Darwin Awards to be had by those that do…
Arts said:
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
now that COVID-19 terror is over despite actually not being safe yet especially after mass weekend gatheringswe had the fluoride 5G immunisation crowd and here’s the next step
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-06/a-toddler-died-after-drinking-it-now-raw-milk-advocates-want-it/12311668
Fine. Great. Go ahead, guzzle all the ‘raw milks’ you want. Pour it into your children by the hogshead.
As long as, when you or your kids become seriously ill, you don’t mind having it plastered across the media that the illness was due to your dickheaded desire to be seen as trendy.
I have never heard of bath milk before… certainly never seen it on the shelves.
I think it is a silly description.
Raw milk means something.
I had a house cow for years. There were never stomach upsets. I did get cow pox once.
None of us really liked warm milk from the cow. Yesterday’s milk or the skim milk went to the pigs. We weren’t stockpiling milk to go off.
Arts said:
captain_spalding said:
Arts said:I have never heard of bath milk before… certainly never seen it on the shelves.
You get goat milk from goats, camel milk from camels, reindeer milk from reindeer.
Bath milk?
oh, it’s like baby oil… gotcha.
I think it says on the bottle not for consumption but people did anyway
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
One of my girlfriends still has her young son at home from school…‘just when I’m about to tell him to get off that screen and do something useful I realise he’s teaching himself another language… 🙄’
LOLOLOLOL.
It (sadly) reminds me of Brendan. Before he killed himself, he wouldn’t elaborate on where his (considerably excess) money came from. He had a business at school, writing essays for year 10, 11 and 12 kids. Study without doing study, and being paid for it…
Arts said:
captain_spalding said:
Arts said:I have never heard of bath milk before… certainly never seen it on the shelves.
You get goat milk from goats, camel milk from camels, reindeer milk from reindeer.
Bath milk?
oh, it’s like baby oil… gotcha.
LOL
Michael V said:
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
One of my girlfriends still has her young son at home from school…‘just when I’m about to tell him to get off that screen and do something useful I realise he’s teaching himself another language… 🙄’
LOLOLOLOL.
It (sadly) reminds me of Brendan. Before he killed himself, he wouldn’t elaborate on where his (considerably excess) money came from. He had a business at school, writing essays for year 10, 11 and 12 kids. Study without doing study, and being paid for it…
:(
It was one of those great fishing days when you wished you had a bigger beak.

captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bit of an EMERGENCY here, not an 000 one, out of tea, but yeah.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8400267/American-woman-viral-hot-tea-recipe-shares-British-tea-technique.html
She has to be taking the piss.
OK, I don’t want to watch the videos. Do they actually drink the concoctions?
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:
Michael V said:LOLOLOLOL.
It (sadly) reminds me of Brendan. Before he killed himself, he wouldn’t elaborate on where his (considerably excess) money came from. He had a business at school, writing essays for year 10, 11 and 12 kids. Study without doing study, and being paid for it…
:(
Brendan from SSSF ?
PermeateFree said:
It was one of those great fishing days when you wished you had a bigger beak.
Lucky puff.
Cymek said:
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:It (sadly) reminds me of Brendan. Before he killed himself, he wouldn’t elaborate on where his (considerably excess) money came from. He had a business at school, writing essays for year 10, 11 and 12 kids. Study without doing study, and being paid for it…
:(
Brendan from SSSF ?
No. that Brendon is alive and well and lecturing in NZ. Married with a little one.
PermeateFree said:
It was one of those great fishing days when you wished you had a bigger beak.
Nice photo.
I loved your tree photo last night, also.
African Americans make up 12% of the adult population, but 33% of the US prison population; in Australia the ratio for Indigenous people is 3% of the population and 29% of the prisoners.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2020/jun/07/no-australia-is-not-the-us-our-shocking-racial-injustice-is-all-our-own
sarahs mum said:
Cymek said:
sarahs mum said::(
Brendan from SSSF ?
No. that Brendon is alive and well and lecturing in NZ. Married with a little one.
OK that’s good
PermeateFree said:
It was one of those great fishing days when you wished you had a bigger beak.
Funny bird
Cymek said:
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:It (sadly) reminds me of Brendan. Before he killed himself, he wouldn’t elaborate on where his (considerably excess) money came from. He had a business at school, writing essays for year 10, 11 and 12 kids. Study without doing study, and being paid for it…
:(
Brendan from SSSF ?
No. Our son.
Brendon from SSSF is a senior lecturer in astrostatistics at University of Auckland.
https://unidirectory.auckland.ac.nz/profile/bj-brewer
sibeen said:
Perils of working from home #37SWMBO is working from home so she has set up in the family room which is open plan and next to the kitchen.
I go in to start preparing and cooking some lunch. It’s a cold day so she requested that I do Buffy’s famous soup. So I’ve gone into the kitchen, turned on the oven, taken chicken stock out of the freezer and I begin to chop up onions and tomatoes.
SWMBO has a phone to her ear and starts yammering away. There’s a short break and then yammering. The yammering starts to get louder. Eventuaklly she comes up and asks why I’m not listening to her.
Me: bemused look “you’re on the phone”
SWMBO: “I’m on hold and have been asking you a question”.
ME: …….
if swmbo had been asking you if you’d like a beer you would have heard her!
Michael V said:
Cymek said:
sarahs mum said::(
Brendan from SSSF ?
No. Our son.
Brendon from SSSF is a senior lecturer in astrostatistics at University of Auckland.
https://unidirectory.auckland.ac.nz/profile/bj-brewer
Sorry for the misunderstanding
Arts said:
I finally got around to watching Nannette last night…now I see what people are talking about… it was not at all what I expected. But I think it also needed to be said.
I wracked my brain to think what you were talking about. Then I Googled. And then I went..“of course!” Must have been idling my brain.
buffy said:
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bit of an EMERGENCY here, not an 000 one, out of tea, but yeah.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8400267/American-woman-viral-hot-tea-recipe-shares-British-tea-technique.html
She has to be taking the piss.
OK, I don’t want to watch the videos. Do they actually drink the concoctions?


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-09/jobkeeper-changes-post-covid-infections-decreasing/12335342
I’d say there has been misleading advertising going on. If you signed up and it said September, changing the contract is morally corrupt, even if there is a line in the legislation that hadn’t been passed at the time you signed initially.
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-09/jobkeeper-changes-post-covid-infections-decreasing/12335342I’d say there has been misleading advertising going on. If you signed up and it said September, changing the contract is morally corrupt, even if there is a line in the legislation that hadn’t been passed at the time you signed initially.
Never mind the contract, the whole lot are morally corrupt.
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-09/jobkeeper-changes-post-covid-infections-decreasing/12335342I’d say there has been misleading advertising going on. If you signed up and it said September, changing the contract is morally corrupt, even if there is a line in the legislation that hadn’t been passed at the time you signed initially.
well you know how it is, Morrison and the Liberals are the great Saviours of the Nation, they did good, they did great, nobody could have done it better
I think the dam panic is just about over.
Peak Warming Man said:
I think the dam panic is just about over.
Panic because there is too much water? Or not enough water?
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-09/jobkeeper-changes-post-covid-infections-decreasing/12335342I’d say there has been misleading advertising going on. If you signed up and it said September, changing the contract is morally corrupt, even if there is a line in the legislation that hadn’t been passed at the time you signed initially.
I always assumed it was more a facility subject to reevaluation depending how, or subject to situational dynamics, or system dynamics
it (the rollback) certainly will motivate people to consider work, any sort of work, and to large extent people wanting work drives the system, drives it to diversify, and presently diversification is needed, very much so, into the future
Peak Warming Man said:
I think the dam panic is just about over.

buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-09/jobkeeper-changes-post-covid-infections-decreasing/12335342I’d say there has been misleading advertising going on. If you signed up and it said September, changing the contract is morally corrupt, even if there is a line in the legislation that hadn’t been passed at the time you signed initially.
I agree. Some would have made financial promises based on that. And it is fair to say that all businesses are not equal in how they are coping in these times.
furious said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I think the dam panic is just about over.
Panic because there is too much water? Or not enough water?
Oh the dam panic, not the damn panic.
Well I’m glad about the dam panic.
The Rev Dodgson said:
furious said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I think the dam panic is just about over.
Panic because there is too much water? Or not enough water?
Oh the dam panic, not the damn panic.
Well I’m glad about the dam panic.
furious said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I think the dam panic is just about over.
Panic because there is too much water? Or not enough water?
Sometimes when you are authoring a witty bon mott you need to make a judgement call.
Would it work better with the n or without the n,
Given some license and the target demographic I decided to publish sans n.
Does anyone know where I put my jar of thumb drives?
*keeps looking.
sarahs mum said:
Does anyone know where I put my jar of thumb drives?*keeps looking.
Tamb said:
sarahs mum said:
Does anyone know where I put my jar of thumb drives?*keeps looking.
It will be the last place you look.
You should always keep looking after you find something, so that statement is no longer true.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Tamb said:
sarahs mum said:
Does anyone know where I put my jar of thumb drives?*keeps looking.
It will be the last place you look.You should always keep looking after you find something, so that statement is no longer true.
The winter cold is turning my olive oil into olive paste.
Bubblecar said:
The winter cold is turning my olive oil into olive paste.
transition said:
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-09/jobkeeper-changes-post-covid-infections-decreasing/12335342I’d say there has been misleading advertising going on. If you signed up and it said September, changing the contract is morally corrupt, even if there is a line in the legislation that hadn’t been passed at the time you signed initially.
I always assumed it was more a facility subject to reevaluation depending how, or subject to situational dynamics, or system dynamics
it (the rollback) certainly will motivate people to consider work, any sort of work, and to large extent people wanting work drives the system, drives it to diversify, and presently diversification is needed, very much so, into the future
This change only relates to the child care sector, which if it is not back up and running as it was pre-COVID, is particularly problematic for economic recovery. Child-care employers were given special provisions to ensure they became eligible for JobKeeper despite the fact that most did not experience a drop in revenue of 30%. These special provisions are being removed but they are being compensated with an extension of the relief package that is being paid to them. Most child-care providers will be better off under this new system.
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
The winter cold is turning my olive oil into olive paste.
Thanks for reminding me. Must go & set the fire for tonight.
Going to be somewhat warmer tonight this end, 2 instead of -3.
Sibeen will (hopefully) recognise these: Chinese Hamburger.
Spicy vegetable pattie, slice of potato on each side, spiced tempura batter.
Rule 303 said:
Sibeen will (hopefully) recognise these: Chinese Hamburger.Spicy vegetable pattie, slice of potato on each side, spiced tempura batter.
Been awhile.
Rule 303 said:
Sibeen will (hopefully) recognise these: Chinese Hamburger.Spicy vegetable pattie, slice of potato on each side, spiced tempura batter.
careful with those looks like you could catch a new Wuhan-Laboratory-Invented-Herpesvirus or something from putting that in the oral cavity
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
Sibeen will (hopefully) recognise these: Chinese Hamburger.Spicy vegetable pattie, slice of potato on each side, spiced tempura batter.
Been awhile.
Also, theirs were a lot neater than mine.
dv said:
By the end, they’re all dead. The only one left is the caretaker playing a sad harmonica.
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
By the end, they’re all dead. The only one left is the caretaker playing a sad harmonica.
So? Music does not soothe the savage beast.
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
By the end, they’re all dead. The only one left is the caretaker playing a sad harmonica.
So? Music does not soothe the savage beast.
Breast
dv said:
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:By the end, they’re all dead. The only one left is the caretaker playing a sad harmonica.
So? Music does not soothe the savage beast.
Breast
Little parcel arrived today, a Polish safety razor + 10 blades. Traditional stainless steel design in a zip-up pouch.
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
By the end, they’re all dead. The only one left is the caretaker playing a sad harmonica.
So? Music does not soothe the savage beast.
With apologies for the public correction – Breast. Music has charms to soothes the savage breast.
You’re welcome.
Rule 303 said:
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:By the end, they’re all dead. The only one left is the caretaker playing a sad harmonica.
So? Music does not soothe the savage beast.
With apologies for the public correction – Breast. Music has charms to soothes the savage breast.
You’re welcome.
The full quote:
Musick has Charms to sooth a savage Breast.
‘The Mourning Bride’, William Congreve, 1697.
Rule 303 said:
… William Congreve, 1697.
great rocket designer to boot.
Is it photo time? Must be close enough…
MrsRule and her Samsung S10 phone, beach at the end of the street, last night.
I was so excited. My new welding table arrived just before lunch.
After lunch, I checked and laid out the package contents. Much assembly to be done. I started on it. And then, my second bolt (a countersunk head M 6×1.0 screw) was difficult, so I removed it looked at it. Seeing some thread damage, thought that there must be a burr on either it or the nut. Then the fifth bolt was difficult, so I didn’t force it and put the sixth in. I cleaned up the end of the fifth bolt with a file, and needle-filed the thread to try and get it started. Several times. And then I discovered that they’d supplied me with two dual-start M 6×1.0 bolts, that otherwise look identical to the other four bolts.
So disappointing.
sigh
Rule 303 said:
Is it photo time? Must be close enough…MrsRule and her Samsung S10 phone, beach at the end of the street, last night.
A walk to the end of that and back each evening would be pleasant exercise.
Michael V said:
I first read that as my new wedding table.
I was so excited. My new welding table arrived just before lunch.After lunch, I checked and laid out the package contents. Much assembly to be done. I started on it. And then, my second bolt (a countersunk head M 6×1.0 screw) was difficult, so I removed it looked at it. Seeing some thread damage, thought that there must be a burr on either it or the nut. Then the fifth bolt was difficult, so I didn’t force it and put the sixth in. I cleaned up the end of the fifth bolt with a file, and needle-filed the thread to try and get it started. Several times. And then I discovered that they’d supplied me with two dual-start M 6×1.0 bolts, that otherwise look identical to the other four bolts.
So disappointing.
sigh
Anyway, sympathies.
Rule 303 said:
Is it photo time? Must be close enough…MrsRule and her Samsung S10 phone, beach at the end of the street, last night.
Noice!
:)
Michael V said:
I was so excited. My new welding table arrived just before lunch.After lunch, I checked and laid out the package contents. Much assembly to be done. I started on it. And then, my second bolt (a countersunk head M 6×1.0 screw) was difficult, so I removed it looked at it. Seeing some thread damage, thought that there must be a burr on either it or the nut. Then the fifth bolt was difficult, so I didn’t force it and put the sixth in. I cleaned up the end of the fifth bolt with a file, and needle-filed the thread to try and get it started. Several times. And then I discovered that they’d supplied me with two dual-start M 6×1.0 bolts, that otherwise look identical to the other four bolts.
So disappointing.
sigh
Bastards!
Michael V said:
I was so excited. My new welding table arrived just before lunch.After lunch, I checked and laid out the package contents. Much assembly to be done. I started on it. And then, my second bolt (a countersunk head M 6×1.0 screw) was difficult, so I removed it looked at it. Seeing some thread damage, thought that there must be a burr on either it or the nut. Then the fifth bolt was difficult, so I didn’t force it and put the sixth in. I cleaned up the end of the fifth bolt with a file, and needle-filed the thread to try and get it started. Several times. And then I discovered that they’d supplied me with two dual-start M 6×1.0 bolts, that otherwise look identical to the other four bolts.
So disappointing.
sigh
Except for milk bottles, other plastic containers and glass jars, I haven’t seen multi-start threads for ages. Particularly in the ISO format.
Rule 303 said:
Is it photo time? Must be close enough…MrsRule and her Samsung S10 phone, beach at the end of the street, last night.
Sunsets always work better with water and silhouettes. :)
Nicely captured.
Bubblecar said:
Rule 303 said:
Is it photo time? Must be close enough…MrsRule and her Samsung S10 phone, beach at the end of the street, last night.
A walk to the end of that and back each evening would be pleasant exercise.
It is – And the pier is right on the point where the shipping channel changes direction from N-S to E-W, which is the closest they come to land (without docking). Some of them come so close they look like they’re going to touch the end of the pier.
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:I first read that as my new wedding table.
I was so excited. My new welding table arrived just before lunch.After lunch, I checked and laid out the package contents. Much assembly to be done. I started on it. And then, my second bolt (a countersunk head M 6×1.0 screw) was difficult, so I removed it looked at it. Seeing some thread damage, thought that there must be a burr on either it or the nut. Then the fifth bolt was difficult, so I didn’t force it and put the sixth in. I cleaned up the end of the fifth bolt with a file, and needle-filed the thread to try and get it started. Several times. And then I discovered that they’d supplied me with two dual-start M 6×1.0 bolts, that otherwise look identical to the other four bolts.
So disappointing.
sigh
Anyway, sympathies.
Wedding table! Ha!
Bubblecar said:
Rule 303 said:
Is it photo time? Must be close enough…MrsRule and her Samsung S10 phone, beach at the end of the street, last night.
A walk to the end of that and back each evening would be pleasant exercise.
Especially if there was a nice place to sit for a few minutes.
Tamb said:
dv said:
Tamb said:So? Music does not soothe the savage beast.
Breast
I’ve never met a savage breast so am unqualified to comment.
“Musick has Charms to sooth a savage Breast, To soften Rocks, or bend a knotted Oak.”
The Mourning Bride by William Congreve
Or “Calm your tits” as we say these days
https://www.smh.com.au/national/default-setting-stuck-on-destroy-fmg-s-plan-to-blast-60-000-year-old-site-20200608-p550ld.html
Rule 303 said:
Is it photo time? Must be close enough…MrsRule and her Samsung S10 phone, beach at the end of the street, last night.
Rye Pier?
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
Is it photo time? Must be close enough…MrsRule and her Samsung S10 phone, beach at the end of the street, last night.
Rye Pier?
Rosebud.
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
Is it photo time? Must be close enough…MrsRule and her Samsung S10 phone, beach at the end of the street, last night.
Rye Pier?
Rosebud.
It’s all changed a bit since I lived down that way in 79 – 81.
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:Rye Pier?
Rosebud.
It’s all changed a bit since I lived down that way in 79 – 81.
Yeah, it’s a suburb now.
I just remembered, I saw a lyrebird in the bushland underneath the Mooney Mooney bridge on Sunday. Also saw a man who’d parked his car to block the traffic, who was trying to move a large snake from the road with a stick. The snake was not happy about it and was lashing out repeatedly. I think it was a python and in that area, probably a diamond python.
Speedy said:
I just remembered, I saw a lyrebird in the bushland underneath the Mooney Mooney bridge on Sunday. Also saw a man who’d parked his car to block the traffic, who was trying to move a large snake from the road with a stick. The snake was not happy about it and was lashing out repeatedly. I think it was a python and in that area, probably a diamond python.
The only time I have ever seen a lyrebird was at Adelaide zoo… I’d love to see a wild one…
the best way to move a snake on is to throw water at it.

Dunno if he is serious or not

I went to ikea… I didn’t actually buy anything but some of their meatballs (frozen for a meal sometime in the future) and some of the lollies I like that are like a can of coke in a smaller package..
I cam home, I ate some soup then treated myself to some of the cola goodness… when I say some I actually mean too many.. now I have a stomach ache… stupid lack of self control.
we like maths here right?

dinner’s landed, packet rice, on toast, with added parsley
one of my avian friends, way home from farm shortly ago..
Arts said:
we like maths here right?
i notice they only use the white meat for those biscuits.
transition said:
dinner’s landed, packet rice, on toast, with added parsleyone of my avian friends, way home from farm shortly ago..
![]()
Birdy looks well-groomed.
Packet rice on toast makes a change from packet pasta on toast.
Arts said:
we like maths here right?
Working it out in kJ might be more meaningful.
Bogsnorkler said:
Dunno if he is serious or not
It seems he writes for the Daily Telegraph, so may not be entirely reliable.
Doing a vat of beef stew this end, as befits the weather.
Bubblecar said:
Doing a vat of beef stew this end, as befits the weather.
I’ve put together chicken and veg soup. It has to simmer now for about 15 minutes and then it can be served.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-09/apollo-bay-distillery-recalls-gin-bottles-filled-hand-sanitiser/12336860
Took SWMBO out for dinner last Wednesday for our anniversary. She ordered a G&T. I have no idea what gin they used by it should have been included in this recall. It was paint stripper.
sibeen said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-09/apollo-bay-distillery-recalls-gin-bottles-filled-hand-sanitiser/12336860Took SWMBO out for dinner last Wednesday for our anniversary. She ordered a G&T. I have no idea what gin they used by it should have been included in this recall. It was paint stripper.
still, hopefully killed any covid.
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-09/apollo-bay-distillery-recalls-gin-bottles-filled-hand-sanitiser/12336860Took SWMBO out for dinner last Wednesday for our anniversary. She ordered a G&T. I have no idea what gin they used by it should have been included in this recall. It was paint stripper.
still, hopefully killed any covid.
shoot it up
sibeen said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-09/apollo-bay-distillery-recalls-gin-bottles-filled-hand-sanitiser/12336860Took SWMBO out for dinner last Wednesday for our anniversary. She ordered a G&T. I have no idea what gin they used by it should have been included in this recall. It was paint stripper.
My gin dilemma was solved, as I had some friends over on Saturday night who told me they would have no problem helping me to get rid of it. A good night was had and the gin is now gone.
The welding table is now assembles, minus the two errant dual-start M 6 screws.
I’ll see whether the hardware store here has the correct screws. If not, I’ll have to contact the Hare & Forbes…
Speedy said:
sibeen said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-09/apollo-bay-distillery-recalls-gin-bottles-filled-hand-sanitiser/12336860Took SWMBO out for dinner last Wednesday for our anniversary. She ordered a G&T. I have no idea what gin they used by it should have been included in this recall. It was paint stripper.
My gin dilemma was solved, as I had some friends over on Saturday night who told me they would have no problem helping me to get rid of it. A good night was had and the gin is now gone.
Nice.
:)
Arts said:
I went to ikea… I didn’t actually buy anything but some of their meatballs (frozen for a meal sometime in the future) and some of the lollies I like that are like a can of coke in a smaller package..I cam home, I ate some soup then treated myself to some of the cola goodness… when I say some I actually mean too many.. now I have a stomach ache… stupid lack of self control.
Ha!
Arts said:
we like maths here right?
LOL.
(No, I haven’t checked the arithmetic.)
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Dunno if he is serious or not
It seems he writes for the Daily Telegraph, so may not be entirely reliable.
Yeah he’s employed by Murdoch. Editor in chief of news.com.au.
We had sausages, pasta and veg for dinner, as requested by Mini Me.
TIL “the ripe blackberry murmurs to the wall” in French is “la mûre mûre murmure au mur”.
And if you’re looking for decorating ideas…
Divine Angel said:
We had sausages, pasta and veg for dinner, as requested by Mini Me.TIL “the ripe blackberry murmurs to the wall” in French is “la mûre mûre murmure au mur”.
It’s good that she requested the veg.
We’re having a rosemary and garlic chicken dish that we would usually have with rice, but tonight instead of rice, I am baking potatoes and am steaming some carrots and broccoli. Mr Speedy is not yet home so when the steaming is done the boys and I will eat. He is not a fan of lemony dishes, and unfortunately for him they are my favourite, so he can add that he needed to eat alone to his standard grumble about this meal.
It will be interesting to see whether Speedy Jnr eats the steamed carrot, as he does not usually eat it. He has recently decided to begin weight training and is taking an interest in nutrition.
I am glad she never has had any of my money in her bank account.
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/jun/08/daniel-radcliffe-jk-rowling-transgender-tweets
sarahs mum said:
I am glad she never has had any of my money in her bank account.
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/jun/08/daniel-radcliffe-jk-rowling-transgender-tweets
semantics
sarahs mum said:
I am glad she never has had any of my money in her bank account.
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/jun/08/daniel-radcliffe-jk-rowling-transgender-tweets
Calling someone who menstruates a woman doesn’t appear to be a stretch to me. Rowling states that she’d march to support trans rights so I cannot see the outrage.
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
I am glad she never has had any of my money in her bank account.
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/jun/08/daniel-radcliffe-jk-rowling-transgender-tweets
Calling someone who menstruates a woman doesn’t appear to be a stretch to me. Rowling states that she’d march to support trans rights so I cannot see the outrage.
But there’s a bus to get on…
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
I am glad she never has had any of my money in her bank account.
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/jun/08/daniel-radcliffe-jk-rowling-transgender-tweets
Calling someone who menstruates a woman doesn’t appear to be a stretch to me. Rowling states that she’d march to support trans rights so I cannot see the outrage.
I remember when I was menopausal Brett sold the cow because she was old and unproductive. I don’t suppose that means much but I still feel like a woman when I have not menstruated for more than a decade.
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
I am glad she never has had any of my money in her bank account.
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/jun/08/daniel-radcliffe-jk-rowling-transgender-tweets
Calling someone who menstruates a woman doesn’t appear to be a stretch to me. Rowling states that she’d march to support trans rights so I cannot see the outrage.
I remember when I was menopausal Brett sold the cow because she was old and unproductive. I don’t suppose that means much but I still feel like a woman when I have not menstruated for more than a decade.
And where does Rowling even begin to allude to that? That’s just a real stretch.
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:Calling someone who menstruates a woman doesn’t appear to be a stretch to me. Rowling states that she’d march to support trans rights so I cannot see the outrage.
I remember when I was menopausal Brett sold the cow because she was old and unproductive. I don’t suppose that means much but I still feel like a woman when I have not menstruated for more than a decade.
And where does Rowling even begin to allude to that? That’s just a real stretch.
I’m sorry if I am stretching.
‘Rowling took issue with a headline on an online article discussing “people who menstruate” and said: “I’m sure there used to be a word for those people. Someone help me out. Wumben? Wimpund? Woomud?”
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:I remember when I was menopausal Brett sold the cow because she was old and unproductive. I don’t suppose that means much but I still feel like a woman when I have not menstruated for more than a decade.
And where does Rowling even begin to allude to that? That’s just a real stretch.
I’m sorry if I am stretching.
‘Rowling took issue with a headline on an online article discussing “people who menstruate” and said: “I’m sure there used to be a word for those people. Someone help me out. Wumben? Wimpund? Woomud?”
Yes, she’s saying that people who menstruate are called women. She doesn’t then go onto state that once they stop menstruating they stop being women. That’s just a ridiculous position.
Hmm…I just popped in. I’ll just pop out again for a bit, I think.
:)
buffy said:
Hmm…I just popped in. I’ll just pop out again for a bit, I think.:)
sorry. I’ll go away instead.
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:
Hmm…I just popped in. I’ll just pop out again for a bit, I think.:)
sorry. I’ll go away instead.
Nah, I’ve got patient reports to write. I don’t need to procrastinate. I want to deliver them tomorrow.
(Two down, four to go)
And by the way – cut Joe Hildebrand a little slack right at the moment.
https://www.kidspot.com.au/parenting/real-life/in-the-news/when-joe-hildebrand-was-11-his-9yearold-brother-vanished-without-a-trace/news-story/3f1d25aa00588578a327184505b3a056
I don’t know Joe, I know his father. Fortunately his father has a level of dementia which means the present news here in Victoria is probably (I hope) not sinking in. I understand Joe doesn’t get on with his father. But his father has a deep sadness about him. As well as being a fascinating person. Folk singer, linguist, draft dodger, dope smoker…I’ve sat around listening in his loungeroom while he sang really strange American songs.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/work/24361233?q&versionId=29420391
buffy said:
And by the way – cut Joe Hildebrand a little slack right at the moment.https://www.kidspot.com.au/parenting/real-life/in-the-news/when-joe-hildebrand-was-11-his-9yearold-brother-vanished-without-a-trace/news-story/3f1d25aa00588578a327184505b3a056
I don’t know Joe, I know his father. Fortunately his father has a level of dementia which means the present news here in Victoria is probably (I hope) not sinking in. I understand Joe doesn’t get on with his father. But his father has a deep sadness about him. As well as being a fascinating person. Folk singer, linguist, draft dodger, dope smoker…I’ve sat around listening in his loungeroom while he sang really strange American songs.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/work/24361233?q&versionId=29420391
Very sad and strange case.
buffy said:
And by the way – cut Joe Hildebrand a little slack right at the moment.https://www.kidspot.com.au/parenting/real-life/in-the-news/when-joe-hildebrand-was-11-his-9yearold-brother-vanished-without-a-trace/news-story/3f1d25aa00588578a327184505b3a056
I don’t know Joe, I know his father. Fortunately his father has a level of dementia which means the present news here in Victoria is probably (I hope) not sinking in. I understand Joe doesn’t get on with his father. But his father has a deep sadness about him. As well as being a fascinating person. Folk singer, linguist, draft dodger, dope smoker…I’ve sat around listening in his loungeroom while he sang really strange American songs.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/work/24361233?q&versionId=29420391
I’ve read about that boy’s disappearance before, but didn’t realise he was Hildebrand’s brother. Those circumstances, and what they would do to a family, are unimaginable :(
Speedy said:
Divine Angel said:
We had sausages, pasta and veg for dinner, as requested by Mini Me.TIL “the ripe blackberry murmurs to the wall” in French is “la mûre mûre murmure au mur”.
It’s good that she requested the veg.
We’re having a rosemary and garlic chicken dish that we would usually have with rice, but tonight instead of rice, I am baking potatoes and am steaming some carrots and broccoli. Mr Speedy is not yet home so when the steaming is done the boys and I will eat. He is not a fan of lemony dishes, and unfortunately for him they are my favourite, so he can add that he needed to eat alone to his standard grumble about this meal.
It will be interesting to see whether Speedy Jnr eats the steamed carrot, as he does not usually eat it. He has recently decided to begin weight training and is taking an interest in nutrition.
Dinner was a success. Speedy Jnr ate the steamed carrots without my prompting and Mr Speedy gave it a thumbs-up. They have now both gone for a jog.
Speedy said:
buffy said:
And by the way – cut Joe Hildebrand a little slack right at the moment.https://www.kidspot.com.au/parenting/real-life/in-the-news/when-joe-hildebrand-was-11-his-9yearold-brother-vanished-without-a-trace/news-story/3f1d25aa00588578a327184505b3a056
I don’t know Joe, I know his father. Fortunately his father has a level of dementia which means the present news here in Victoria is probably (I hope) not sinking in. I understand Joe doesn’t get on with his father. But his father has a deep sadness about him. As well as being a fascinating person. Folk singer, linguist, draft dodger, dope smoker…I’ve sat around listening in his loungeroom while he sang really strange American songs.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/work/24361233?q&versionId=29420391
I’ve read about that boy’s disappearance before, but didn’t realise he was Hildebrand’s brother. Those circumstances, and what they would do to a family, are unimaginable :(
I didn’t know about it when I met Hildebrand and Joy. They live in this district and we met them maybe 30 years ago now. He’s never spoken to me about it and I wouldn’t ever bring it up. My mother knew about it and when she knew we’d met Hildebrand she told me about it. There was some connection to my Great Aunt Mollie. I think my mother had a talk to Hildebrand many years ago when she was here for a holiday. To be honest, when there were fires on the Prom some years ago I half hoped they might find something. Just so they could know. They never found anything.
Speedy said:
Speedy said:
Divine Angel said:
We had sausages, pasta and veg for dinner, as requested by Mini Me.TIL “the ripe blackberry murmurs to the wall” in French is “la mûre mûre murmure au mur”.
It’s good that she requested the veg.
We’re having a rosemary and garlic chicken dish that we would usually have with rice, but tonight instead of rice, I am baking potatoes and am steaming some carrots and broccoli. Mr Speedy is not yet home so when the steaming is done the boys and I will eat. He is not a fan of lemony dishes, and unfortunately for him they are my favourite, so he can add that he needed to eat alone to his standard grumble about this meal.
It will be interesting to see whether Speedy Jnr eats the steamed carrot, as he does not usually eat it. He has recently decided to begin weight training and is taking an interest in nutrition.
Dinner was a success. Speedy Jnr ate the steamed carrots without my prompting and Mr Speedy gave it a thumbs-up. They have now both gone for a jog.
Jolly good, although an odd hour to be going jogging.
My beef stew hit the spot and was followed by a modest splurge of work in the (heated) art studio.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Entire Roman city revealed without any digging
quick, there’s probably some iron ore under there, blow it up
Tau.Neutrino said:
Entire Roman city revealed without any digging
Well John from Time Team was right. Geophys is making diggers redundant.
I’m guessing that when the first trans Atlantic wireless broadcast was made people were saying ‘what a world we live in’
Peak Warming Man said:
I’m guessing that when the first trans Atlantic wireless broadcast was made people were saying ‘what a world we live in’
Ditto when they watched their first TV advert, jiggled their first teabag and scoffed their first fish finger.
Things are not looking good for the boy lost in Victoria.
I suppose they are using those body heat seeking helicopters.
The ones the US military use to find bad people are very impressive.
Peak Warming Man said:
I’m guessing that when the first trans Atlantic wireless broadcast was made people were saying ‘what a world we live in’
The Letter “S” was all that was sent
They were so drunk they forgot the rest of the message.
it was originally going to be
See what a world we live in.
Peak Warming Man said:
I’m guessing that when the first trans Atlantic wireless broadcast was made people were saying ‘what a world we live in’
Doubtful. I think they just doffed their caps and then shuffled off home for tea.
Peak Warming Man said:
I’m guessing that when the first trans Atlantic wireless broadcast was made people were saying ‘what a world we live in’
Say what, Mr Man. “Will modern wonders ever cease”, my mother used to say. I’m a modern wonder, ya know. I never cease to wonder about everything modern.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Entire Roman city revealed without any digging
https://phys.org/news/2020-06-deadly-superbug-vigorous-foe-repurposed.html
read that, then read this above^ on that site, quite interesting
Bubblecar said:
Speedy said:
Speedy said:It’s good that she requested the veg.
We’re having a rosemary and garlic chicken dish that we would usually have with rice, but tonight instead of rice, I am baking potatoes and am steaming some carrots and broccoli. Mr Speedy is not yet home so when the steaming is done the boys and I will eat. He is not a fan of lemony dishes, and unfortunately for him they are my favourite, so he can add that he needed to eat alone to his standard grumble about this meal.
It will be interesting to see whether Speedy Jnr eats the steamed carrot, as he does not usually eat it. He has recently decided to begin weight training and is taking an interest in nutrition.
Dinner was a success. Speedy Jnr ate the steamed carrots without my prompting and Mr Speedy gave it a thumbs-up. They have now both gone for a jog.
Jolly good, although an odd hour to be going jogging.
My beef stew hit the spot and was followed by a modest splurge of work in the (heated) art studio.
Lots of people run her late at night. As long as they’re in reasonable running attire and not wearing balaclavas, I don’t think it’s an issue.
What are you working on Mr Car?
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:And where does Rowling even begin to allude to that? That’s just a real stretch.
I’m sorry if I am stretching.
‘Rowling took issue with a headline on an online article discussing “people who menstruate” and said: “I’m sure there used to be a word for those people. Someone help me out. Wumben? Wimpund? Woomud?”
Yes, she’s saying that people who menstruate are called women. She doesn’t then go onto state that once they stop menstruating they stop being women. That’s just a ridiculous position.
The argument is not that women who have stopped menstruating are not women, it is whether trans-women should be considered women. Some people consider JK Rowling to be transphobic, more specifically they consider her to be a “trans-exclusionary feminist.” Their general idea being that both gender and sex are entirely cultural constructs which are assigned at birth rather than descriptions of any biological or psychological reality. Under this ideology, a person who is born with a penis and testes and XY chromosomes (and hence, has no possibility of menstruating at any time in their life) should be considered a “woman” in all respects should they mature to be trans-gender. To suggest that “people who menstruate” are synonymous with “women” excludes trans-women from the category of women and so is considered to be transphobic, and this is what Rowling is being criticized for.
Speedy said:
Bubblecar said:
Speedy said:Dinner was a success. Speedy Jnr ate the steamed carrots without my prompting and Mr Speedy gave it a thumbs-up. They have now both gone for a jog.
Jolly good, although an odd hour to be going jogging.
My beef stew hit the spot and was followed by a modest splurge of work in the (heated) art studio.
Lots of people run her late at night. As long as they’re in reasonable running attire and not wearing balaclavas, I don’t think it’s an issue.
What are you working on Mr Car?
Just finishing a work I started a couple years ago :)
Bubblecar said:
Speedy said:
Bubblecar said:Jolly good, although an odd hour to be going jogging.
My beef stew hit the spot and was followed by a modest splurge of work in the (heated) art studio.
Lots of people run her late at night. As long as they’re in reasonable running attire and not wearing balaclavas, I don’t think it’s an issue.
What are you working on Mr Car?
Just finishing a work I started a couple years ago :)
Progress! Well done :)
esselte said:
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:I’m sorry if I am stretching.
‘Rowling took issue with a headline on an online article discussing “people who menstruate” and said: “I’m sure there used to be a word for those people. Someone help me out. Wumben? Wimpund? Woomud?”
Yes, she’s saying that people who menstruate are called women. She doesn’t then go onto state that once they stop menstruating they stop being women. That’s just a ridiculous position.
The argument is not that women who have stopped menstruating are not women, it is whether trans-women should be considered women. Some people consider JK Rowling to be transphobic, more specifically they consider her to be a “trans-exclusionary feminist.” Their general idea being that both gender and sex are entirely cultural constructs which are assigned at birth rather than descriptions of any biological or psychological reality. Under this ideology, a person who is born with a penis and testes and XY chromosomes (and hence, has no possibility of menstruating at any time in their life) should be considered a “woman” in all respects should they mature to be trans-gender. To suggest that “people who menstruate” are synonymous with “women” excludes trans-women from the category of women and so is considered to be transphobic, and this is what Rowling is being criticized for.
One can be accepting of transgender people without confusing their preferred gender status with biological sex.
People like Rowling prefer to use terms like “men and women” to refer to sex categories, not gender categories.
My hands have now warmed up sufficiently to do a bit of lute practice.
esselte said:
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:I’m sorry if I am stretching.
‘Rowling took issue with a headline on an online article discussing “people who menstruate” and said: “I’m sure there used to be a word for those people. Someone help me out. Wumben? Wimpund? Woomud?”
Yes, she’s saying that people who menstruate are called women. She doesn’t then go onto state that once they stop menstruating they stop being women. That’s just a ridiculous position.
The argument is not that women who have stopped menstruating are not women, it is whether trans-women should be considered women. Some people consider JK Rowling to be transphobic, more specifically they consider her to be a “trans-exclusionary feminist.” Their general idea being that both gender and sex are entirely cultural constructs which are assigned at birth rather than descriptions of any biological or psychological reality. Under this ideology, a person who is born with a penis and testes and XY chromosomes (and hence, has no possibility of menstruating at any time in their life) should be considered a “woman” in all respects should they mature to be trans-gender. To suggest that “people who menstruate” are synonymous with “women” excludes trans-women from the category of women and so is considered to be transphobic, and this is what Rowling is being criticized for.
When I was a part of hysterectomy fb groups, some were offended that they were being referred to as women (or “ladies”) when they identified as male.
Bubblecar said:
esselte said:
sibeen said:Yes, she’s saying that people who menstruate are called women. She doesn’t then go onto state that once they stop menstruating they stop being women. That’s just a ridiculous position.
The argument is not that women who have stopped menstruating are not women, it is whether trans-women should be considered women. Some people consider JK Rowling to be transphobic, more specifically they consider her to be a “trans-exclusionary feminist.” Their general idea being that both gender and sex are entirely cultural constructs which are assigned at birth rather than descriptions of any biological or psychological reality. Under this ideology, a person who is born with a penis and testes and XY chromosomes (and hence, has no possibility of menstruating at any time in their life) should be considered a “woman” in all respects should they mature to be trans-gender. To suggest that “people who menstruate” are synonymous with “women” excludes trans-women from the category of women and so is considered to be transphobic, and this is what Rowling is being criticized for.
One can be accepting of transgender people without confusing their preferred gender status with biological sex.
People like Rowling prefer to use terms like “men and women” to refer to sex categories, not gender categories.
Yes. It is a bit too hard to get the language right to reflect every preference and offend none.
Bubblecar said:
esselte said:
sibeen said:Yes, she’s saying that people who menstruate are called women. She doesn’t then go onto state that once they stop menstruating they stop being women. That’s just a ridiculous position.
The argument is not that women who have stopped menstruating are not women, it is whether trans-women should be considered women. Some people consider JK Rowling to be transphobic, more specifically they consider her to be a “trans-exclusionary feminist.” Their general idea being that both gender and sex are entirely cultural constructs which are assigned at birth rather than descriptions of any biological or psychological reality. Under this ideology, a person who is born with a penis and testes and XY chromosomes (and hence, has no possibility of menstruating at any time in their life) should be considered a “woman” in all respects should they mature to be trans-gender. To suggest that “people who menstruate” are synonymous with “women” excludes trans-women from the category of women and so is considered to be transphobic, and this is what Rowling is being criticized for.
One can be accepting of transgender people without confusing their preferred gender status with biological sex.
People like Rowling prefer to use terms like “men and women” to refer to sex categories, not gender categories.
There is an ideology which considers the differentiation between sex and gender to be anathema and morally offensive. Their argument is often succinctly stated by them as “trans-women are women”,(less often, “trans-men are men” as they are greatly influenced by Intersectional Feminism and so tend to be female-centric in their outlooks) a statement they consider as absolute without any regard for the distinction between sex and gender. Primarily it is these people and those adjacent to them who criticise Rowling for her opinions on these matters.
imagine semantics
Speedy said:
esselte said:
sibeen said:Yes, she’s saying that people who menstruate are called women. She doesn’t then go onto state that once they stop menstruating they stop being women. That’s just a ridiculous position.
The argument is not that women who have stopped menstruating are not women, it is whether trans-women should be considered women. Some people consider JK Rowling to be transphobic, more specifically they consider her to be a “trans-exclusionary feminist.” Their general idea being that both gender and sex are entirely cultural constructs which are assigned at birth rather than descriptions of any biological or psychological reality. Under this ideology, a person who is born with a penis and testes and XY chromosomes (and hence, has no possibility of menstruating at any time in their life) should be considered a “woman” in all respects should they mature to be trans-gender. To suggest that “people who menstruate” are synonymous with “women” excludes trans-women from the category of women and so is considered to be transphobic, and this is what Rowling is being criticized for.
When I was a part of hysterectomy fb groups, some were offended that they were being referred to as women (or “ladies”) when they identified as male.
maybe we can be done with all this needless foolishness and just refer to all concepts as “concepts”, then there’dn’t be any bias would there, if you wanted to say (women) (have) (uterus) then you could just say “concept concept concept” and the meaning would be crystal clear
esselte said:
Bubblecar said:
esselte said:The argument is not that women who have stopped menstruating are not women, it is whether trans-women should be considered women. Some people consider JK Rowling to be transphobic, more specifically they consider her to be a “trans-exclusionary feminist.” Their general idea being that both gender and sex are entirely cultural constructs which are assigned at birth rather than descriptions of any biological or psychological reality. Under this ideology, a person who is born with a penis and testes and XY chromosomes (and hence, has no possibility of menstruating at any time in their life) should be considered a “woman” in all respects should they mature to be trans-gender. To suggest that “people who menstruate” are synonymous with “women” excludes trans-women from the category of women and so is considered to be transphobic, and this is what Rowling is being criticized for.
One can be accepting of transgender people without confusing their preferred gender status with biological sex.
People like Rowling prefer to use terms like “men and women” to refer to sex categories, not gender categories.
There is an ideology which considers the differentiation between sex and gender to be anathema and morally offensive. Their argument is often succinctly stated by them as “trans-women are women”,(less often, “trans-men are men” as they are greatly influenced by Intersectional Feminism and so tend to be female-centric in their outlooks) a statement they consider as absolute without any regard for the distinction between sex and gender. Primarily it is these people and those adjacent to them who criticise Rowling for her opinions on these matters.
reminds us of the time they actually looked into whether autistic people with autism preferred being called “autistic people” or “people with autism” and it turned out that some preferred one, some preferred the other, and nobody realised the conclusion was we should all just toughen up a bit and worry more about major problems that do need solving rather than bask in the privilege of having a choice
esselte said:
Bubblecar said:
esselte said:The argument is not that women who have stopped menstruating are not women, it is whether trans-women should be considered women. Some people consider JK Rowling to be transphobic, more specifically they consider her to be a “trans-exclusionary feminist.” Their general idea being that both gender and sex are entirely cultural constructs which are assigned at birth rather than descriptions of any biological or psychological reality. Under this ideology, a person who is born with a penis and testes and XY chromosomes (and hence, has no possibility of menstruating at any time in their life) should be considered a “woman” in all respects should they mature to be trans-gender. To suggest that “people who menstruate” are synonymous with “women” excludes trans-women from the category of women and so is considered to be transphobic, and this is what Rowling is being criticized for.
One can be accepting of transgender people without confusing their preferred gender status with biological sex.
People like Rowling prefer to use terms like “men and women” to refer to sex categories, not gender categories.
There is an ideology which considers the differentiation between sex and gender to be anathema and morally offensive. Their argument is often succinctly stated by them as “trans-women are women”,(less often, “trans-men are men” as they are greatly influenced by Intersectional Feminism and so tend to be female-centric in their outlooks) a statement they consider as absolute without any regard for the distinction between sex and gender. Primarily it is these people and those adjacent to them who criticise Rowling for her opinions on these matters.
Yes, their stance is pretty much the opposite of traditional feminist positions, hence the ongoing ideological warfare between the two groups.
Physicists Think They’ve Figured Out a Way to Save Schrödinger’s Cat
The famous cat-in-a-box thought experiment by Austrian physicist Erwin Schrödinger is an illustration of one of the defining characteristics of quantum mechanics – the unpredictable behaviour of particles at the quantum level.
more…
The gull who eats pigeons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRPTBhmcyXY
Popped up in my youtube suggestions. Quite fascinating.
sibeen said:
The gull who eats pigeonshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRPTBhmcyXY
Popped up in my youtube suggestions. Quite fascinating.
I read that as “the girl who eats pigeons”.
esselte said:
Bubblecar said:
esselte said:The argument is not that women who have stopped menstruating are not women, it is whether trans-women should be considered women. Some people consider JK Rowling to be transphobic, more specifically they consider her to be a “trans-exclusionary feminist.” Their general idea being that both gender and sex are entirely cultural constructs which are assigned at birth rather than descriptions of any biological or psychological reality. Under this ideology, a person who is born with a penis and testes and XY chromosomes (and hence, has no possibility of menstruating at any time in their life) should be considered a “woman” in all respects should they mature to be trans-gender. To suggest that “people who menstruate” are synonymous with “women” excludes trans-women from the category of women and so is considered to be transphobic, and this is what Rowling is being criticized for.
One can be accepting of transgender people without confusing their preferred gender status with biological sex.
People like Rowling prefer to use terms like “men and women” to refer to sex categories, not gender categories.
There is an ideology which considers the differentiation between sex and gender to be anathema and morally offensive. Their argument is often succinctly stated by them as “trans-women are women”,(less often, “trans-men are men” as they are greatly influenced by Intersectional Feminism and so tend to be female-centric in their outlooks) a statement they consider as absolute without any regard for the distinction between sex and gender. Primarily it is these people and those adjacent to them who criticise Rowling for her opinions on these matters.
yeah I reckon there’s an argument in there somewhere people ought be able to call themselves what they like, to self identify, if anything at all
people probably use language in different ways, the force of mental tools operates differently, resolves ideas differently
some maybe use categories, definitions etc, to mean this is this because it’s not that, can’t be this and that, it excludes those other things, further such people may resist the boundaries, fuzzy areas if you like, and there’s probably a tendency to reject flipsides that aren’t sort of obvious opposites, even native opposites, meaning minds do tend to exhibit natural categories, if I can say that without making too much out of natural
the truth, or something nearer the truth, is a lot of the structure of thoughts emerges courtesy noise, from a background of noise, if I can call variability noise, but I mean it in a more fundamental way, as if the structure we observe from doesn’t make apparent the noise that contributes greatly to that structure
i’m thinking now, reminded, that there would be no life on earth, or thought, the possibility of life or thought (that exists and further possibility of) would be zero if organic replicators had 100% fidelity, of replication
Saw one of the electric Auspost vehicles … driving on the footpath and the road
dv said:
Saw one of the electric Auspost vehicles … driving on the footpath and the road
I didn’t know they used electric tricycles. I do now, thanks. Note that AusPost has had an Australia-wide exemption for driving mail-box delivery motorcycles on the footpath.
I hope the new tricycles don’t go too fast. Three wheeled vehicles tip over easily. Surprisingly – easier than two wheeled vehicles.
https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap200608.html
http://www.w7ftt.net/venus1.html
There should be more astronomical images taken like this, during the day. “hard to capture”.

mollwollfumble said:
https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap200608.html
http://www.w7ftt.net/venus1.htmlThere should be more astronomical images taken like this, during the day. “hard to capture”.
:)
It has graduated from pot plants.
More than $1.2 million spent on indoor plants for new NSW Government office.

roughbarked said:
It has graduated from pot plants.More than $1.2 million spent on indoor plants for new NSW Government office.
Wookie will be pleased.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
It has graduated from pot plants.More than $1.2 million spent on indoor plants for new NSW Government office.
Wookie will be pleased.
Have to admit though that including plants and water in building designs would cause extra expense.
Good morning Holidayers. Presently zero outside and getting light slowly. About 20 minutes to sunrise.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
It has graduated from pot plants.More than $1.2 million spent on indoor plants for new NSW Government office.
Wookie will be pleased.
Have to admit though that including plants and water in building designs would cause extra expense.
If it makes the staff more productive and “customers” less liable to be agitated, it may well be worth the money.
Morning.
It’s wet.
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently zero outside and getting light slowly. About 20 minutes to sunrise.
Brrrrr.
17.7°C in this office, and similar outside. Sun is shining through the scattered cloud, which has dropped some rain earlier this morning. 79% RH and calm.
Better do an email to Hare & Forbes to see whether I can get the errant dual-start screws replaced.
Morning.
Looks out window.
Jack Frost is outside.
Brrr.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Morning.Looks out window.
Jack Frost is outside.
Brrr.
He is here too. And still increasing the whiteness as the sun came up. But you are near Ballarat. And everyone knows it’s always colder in Ballarat…
No frost in the Styx, overcast and almost raining.
poikilotherm said:
No frost in the Styx, overcast and almost raining.
Been gently raining all night at the redoubt so no fire required.
Looks like the sun may not make an appearance this morning.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:Wookie will be pleased.
Have to admit though that including plants and water in building designs would cause extra expense.
If it makes the staff more productive and “customers” less liable to be agitated, it may well be worth the money.
I don’t have any problems with that aspect.
Peak Warming Man said:
poikilotherm said:
No frost in the Styx, overcast and almost raining.
Been gently raining all night at the redoubt so no fire required.
Looks like the sun may not make an appearance this morning.
Sun’s out here. Even had a rainbow!
Tau.Neutrino said:
Morning.Looks out window.
Jack Frost is outside.
Brrr.
He’s left here for this week. See if you can keep him there, wherever you are.
Divine Angel said:
Peak Warming Man said:
poikilotherm said:
No frost in the Styx, overcast and almost raining.
Been gently raining all night at the redoubt so no fire required.
Looks like the sun may not make an appearance this morning.
Sun’s out here. Even had a rainbow!
:)
8.7°C here, heading for around 17.
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently zero outside and getting light slowly. About 20 minutes to sunrise.
roughbarked said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Morning.Looks out window.
Jack Frost is outside.
Brrr.
He’s left here for this week. See if you can keep him there, wherever you are.
Divine Angel said:
Peak Warming Man said:
poikilotherm said:
No frost in the Styx, overcast and almost raining.
Been gently raining all night at the redoubt so no fire required.
Looks like the sun may not make an appearance this morning.
Sun’s out here. Even had a rainbow!
Rainbow in the morning, shepherd* take warning;
Rainbow at night, shepherd’s delight.
* or sailor.
A forumer, whose handle I can’t remember, has been posting YouTube videos of a cook on Facebook.
I thought I was a terrible cook, until I saw this woman…
https://youtu.be/CtVtyc31J50
I’ll be back later. I’m off to Casterton to bring the meat back for the bakery.
Wow! It is as big as a normal house cat.

“I’m assuming it was a really large feral cat.”
No lady, it wasn’t. I’ve seen and despatched a lot of large feral cats and this isn’t.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-10/otways-big-black-cat-caught-on-film/12335606
The flat earth society are reporting that the 1.5m social distancing measures are pushing some of their members over the edge.
roughbarked said:
Wow! It is as big as a normal house cat.
“I’m assuming it was a really large feral cat.”
No lady, it wasn’t. I’ve seen and despatched a lot of large feral cats and this isn’t.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-10/otways-big-black-cat-caught-on-film/12335606
Lol
Greetings
Bogsnorkler said:
The flat earth society are reporting that the 1.5m social distancing measures are pushing some of their members over the edge.
That’s terrible enough to be funny
someone asked me to describe myself in three words. I replied, lazy.
bandicoot came for its morning visit into the computer room for a sniff around.
Bogsnorkler said:
The flat earth society are reporting that the 1.5m social distancing measures are pushing some of their members over the edge.
LOLOL
:)
dv said:
roughbarked said:
Wow! It is as big as a normal house cat.
“I’m assuming it was a really large feral cat.”
No lady, it wasn’t. I’ve seen and despatched a lot of large feral cats and this isn’t.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-10/otways-big-black-cat-caught-on-film/12335606
Lol
Now this could be argued as being a large feral cat. It has mouthed a goanna.

Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
The flat earth society are reporting that the 1.5m social distancing measures are pushing some of their members over the edge.
LOLOL
:)
It works.
Protests by a coalition of traditional owners and environmentalists have forced a halt to native timber logging at seven coupes in Victoria’s Gippsland and the Central Highlands.
Key points:
The protesters are calling for the Victorian Government to announce an immediate end to native timber logging across the state.

roughbarked said:
Protests by a coalition of traditional owners and environmentalists have forced a halt to native timber logging at seven coupes in Victoria’s Gippsland and the Central Highlands.
Key points: Protestors want an immediate end to native timber logging in Victoria A former Greens MP and Gunnai/Gunditjmara woman says the Indigenous community never consented to the logging A fortnight ago, the Federal Court ruled VicForests breached environmental laws by logging areas inhabited by the endangered Leadbeater’s possumThe protesters are calling for the Victorian Government to announce an immediate end to native timber logging across the state.
Any logging being stopped sounds like a good idea
Cymek said:
roughbarked said:
Protests by a coalition of traditional owners and environmentalists have forced a halt to native timber logging at seven coupes in Victoria’s Gippsland and the Central Highlands.
Key points: Protestors want an immediate end to native timber logging in Victoria A former Greens MP and Gunnai/Gunditjmara woman says the Indigenous community never consented to the logging A fortnight ago, the Federal Court ruled VicForests breached environmental laws by logging areas inhabited by the endangered Leadbeater’s possumThe protesters are calling for the Victorian Government to announce an immediate end to native timber logging across the state.
Any logging being stopped sounds like a good idea
They’re Just Trying To Fuel The Next Mega Bush Fire To Make Morrison Look Bad
SCIENCE said:
Cymek said:
roughbarked said:
Protests by a coalition of traditional owners and environmentalists have forced a halt to native timber logging at seven coupes in Victoria’s Gippsland and the Central Highlands.
Key points: Protestors want an immediate end to native timber logging in Victoria A former Greens MP and Gunnai/Gunditjmara woman says the Indigenous community never consented to the logging A fortnight ago, the Federal Court ruled VicForests breached environmental laws by logging areas inhabited by the endangered Leadbeater’s possumThe protesters are calling for the Victorian Government to announce an immediate end to native timber logging across the state.
Any logging being stopped sounds like a good idea
They’re Just Trying To Fuel The Next Mega Bush Fire To Make Morrison Look Bad
There doesn’t appear to be a coalition against fire management.
anyway, on heroes or despots.. https://www.timecapsule-watch.com/
Lost kid with autism…turns up at school… hundreds of klicks away.
roughbarked said:
anyway, on heroes or despots.. https://www.timecapsule-watch.com/
Has anyone checked D. Trump and his choice of watches?
Surprisingly, he has yet to be photographed wearing one of his own watches.
https://www.thewatchindex.com/Most-Popular-Watches/Presidential-Watches-Donald-Trumps-Watch-Collection
sarahs mum said:
Lost kid with autism…turns up at school… hundreds of klicks away.
singular focus?
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:
Lost kid with autism…turns up at school… hundreds of klicks away.singular focus?
Hitched to sydney. Got a train.
My similarly aged nephew with autism, who is also non vocal, could not have achieved this.
sarahs mum said:
Lost kid with autism…turns up at school… hundreds of klicks away.
Where did you hear this? Not on the news sites yet…
sarahs mum said:
Lost kid with autism…turns up at school… hundreds of klicks away.
Sya what?
I guess it is good news he was found.
So it isn’t the one lost in Victoria?
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
Lost kid with autism…turns up at school… hundreds of klicks away.Sya what?
I guess it is good news he was found.
Different kids.
furious said:
sarahs mum said:
Lost kid with autism…turns up at school… hundreds of klicks away.Where did you hear this? Not on the news sites yet…
Abc News. It is a different kid with autism.. Not the Vic one.
Witty Rejoinder said:
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
Lost kid with autism…turns up at school… hundreds of klicks away.Sya what?
I guess it is good news he was found.
Different kids.
AH. Not as good as I thought then. I mean good that this kids is no longer missing of course, but still feel a bit dreadful about the VIC one.
furious said:
sarahs mum said:
Lost kid with autism…turns up at school… hundreds of klicks away.Where did you hear this? Not on the news sites yet…
That’s what I found as well.
sarahs mum said:
Lost kid with autism…turns up at school… hundreds of klicks away.
Which one? NSW kid or Victorian kid?
sarahs mum said:
My similarly aged nephew with autism, who is also non vocal, could not have achieved this.
“Teenager with autism found after wandering away from mum during rest stop in HeatherbraeL”
Seems they don’t know how he travelled but I assume it was public transport
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
Lost kid with autism…turns up at school… hundreds of klicks away.Which one? NSW kid or Victorian kid?
Nsw Kid. He hadnt been missing as long.
dv said:
sarahs mum said:
My similarly aged nephew with autism, who is also non vocal, could not have achieved this.“Teenager with autism found after wandering away from mum during rest stop in HeatherbraeL”
Seems they don’t know how he travelled but I assume it was public transport
the police are looking for the person who gave him a lift between Port Stephens and Pymble.
The boy in Vic is being searched out with added Thomas the tank engine music and the smell of BBQ onions and bacon.
sarahs mum said:
The boy in Vic is being searched out with added Thomas the tank engine music and the smell of BBQ onions and bacon.
We’ve got him. Alive.
:-)
Rule 303 said:
sarahs mum said:
The boy in Vic is being searched out with added Thomas the tank engine music and the smell of BBQ onions and bacon.We’ve got him. Alive.
:-)
Wow!
Rule 303 said:
sarahs mum said:
The boy in Vic is being searched out with added Thomas the tank engine music and the smell of BBQ onions and bacon.We’ve got him. Alive.
:-)
Excellent news!
:)
:)
:)
Rule 303 said:
:)
sarahs mum said:
The boy in Vic is being searched out with added Thomas the tank engine music and the smell of BBQ onions and bacon.We’ve got him. Alive.
:-)
roughbarked said:
Rule 303 said:
sarahs mum said:
The boy in Vic is being searched out with added Thomas the tank engine music and the smell of BBQ onions and bacon.We’ve got him. Alive.
:-)
Wow!
sarahs mum said:
The boy in Vic is being searched out with added Thomas the tank engine music and the smell of BBQ onions and bacon.
He’d have to be quick to beat me to the source of those lures.
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
The boy in Vic is being searched out with added Thomas the tank engine music and the smell of BBQ onions and bacon.He’d have to be quick to beat me to the source of those lures.
My nephew likes the Status quo/Coles ‘Down down prices are down’ song and cheese and apples. His major skill set is pointing at company logos.
a personal aside.
Remember my big hand?
Well I dutifully went through the antibiotics course and the swelling did subside and it is now a week afterwards. This morning I found one lump under the arm in question and just now, I have two lumps.
sarahs mum said:
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
The boy in Vic is being searched out with added Thomas the tank engine music and the smell of BBQ onions and bacon.He’d have to be quick to beat me to the source of those lures.
My nephew likes the Status quo/Coles ‘Down down prices are down’ song and cheese and apples. His major skill set is pointing at company logos.
I see a great future for him in corporate management.
roughbarked said:
a personal aside.
Remember my big hand?Well I dutifully went through the antibiotics course and the swelling did subside and it is now a week afterwards. This morning I found one lump under the arm in question and just now, I have two lumps.
That doesn’t sound good.
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:
a personal aside.
Remember my big hand?Well I dutifully went through the antibiotics course and the swelling did subside and it is now a week afterwards. This morning I found one lump under the arm in question and just now, I have two lumps.
That doesn’t sound good.
Called the doctor and after waiting until a call could get through was told even with the above story that I could get an appointment on Monday.
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:
a personal aside.
Remember my big hand?Well I dutifully went through the antibiotics course and the swelling did subside and it is now a week afterwards. This morning I found one lump under the arm in question and just now, I have two lumps.
That doesn’t sound good.
Called the doctor and after waiting until a call could get through was told even with the above story that I could get an appointment on Monday.
Though the intern at the ‘lopital initially told me that if this happened, to call again.
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:
a personal aside.
Remember my big hand?Well I dutifully went through the antibiotics course and the swelling did subside and it is now a week afterwards. This morning I found one lump under the arm in question and just now, I have two lumps.
That doesn’t sound good.
Called the doctor and after waiting until a call could get through was told even with the above story that I could get an appointment on Monday.
Bugger.
camped on Mt Disappointment. Australia Day w/e. was doing a mammal survey. it snowed.
Bogsnorkler said:
camped on Mt Disappointment. Australia Day w/e. was doing a mammal survey. it snowed.
It can be a freezing bastard of a place. Lucky kid. I’d love to be able to hear his story.
roughbarked said:
Bogsnorkler said:
camped on Mt Disappointment. Australia Day w/e. was doing a mammal survey. it snowed.
It can be a freezing bastard of a place. Lucky kid. I’d love to be able to hear his story.
I wouldn’t call him lucky, especially when his condition endangers his life in this way. It’s likely that even if he does survive this, no-one will ever know his story.

I’m back. Did we see this?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-10/william-callaghan-found-safe-and-alive-on-mount-disappointment/12335618
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:
Bogsnorkler said:
camped on Mt Disappointment. Australia Day w/e. was doing a mammal survey. it snowed.
It can be a freezing bastard of a place. Lucky kid. I’d love to be able to hear his story.
I wouldn’t call him lucky, especially when his condition endangers his life in this way. It’s likely that even if he does survive this, no-one will ever know his story.
To be sure. Yes.
cold water out the tap’s so cold it’s painful, even briefest wash of hands
buffy said:
I’m back. Did we see this?https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-10/william-callaghan-found-safe-and-alive-on-mount-disappointment/12335618
Heard his mum on the ABC this morning. Good news.
Bogsnorkler said:
buffy said:
I’m back. Did we see this?https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-10/william-callaghan-found-safe-and-alive-on-mount-disappointment/12335618
Heard his mum on the ABC this morning. Good news.
Apparently we did but wrong thread yes.
roughbarked said:
Speedy said:
roughbarked said:It can be a freezing bastard of a place. Lucky kid. I’d love to be able to hear his story.
I wouldn’t call him lucky, especially when his condition endangers his life in this way. It’s likely that even if he does survive this, no-one will ever know his story.
To be sure. Yes.
maybe autistic means even if you have trouble in the high pressure modern society you might not do as badly in a natural environment
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
Speedy said:I wouldn’t call him lucky, especially when his condition endangers his life in this way. It’s likely that even if he does survive this, no-one will ever know his story.
To be sure. Yes.
maybe autistic means even if you have trouble in the high pressure modern society you might not do as badly in a natural environment
Do study up on autism.
New Zealand has lifted all of its domestic restrictions on social distancing and mass gatherings, after more than a fortnight without any new cases of the virus being recorded.
Mr Peters has been a vocal advocate for a rapid resumption of business and tourism, backing the idea of direct flights between New Zealand and Tasmania.
Coronavirus update: Follow all the latest news in our daily wrap.
“It’s very clear that Tasmania is set to go and we should start, frankly,” he said.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-10/nz-travel-bubble-delayed-coronavirus-state-border-restrictions/12338458
William Pointon called police to a Tennant Creek property to report that a young person had broken into his residence and stolen some of his cannabis plants.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-10/cannabis-theft-man-pleads-guilty-in-alice-springs/12338590
sarahs mum said:
New Zealand has lifted all of its domestic restrictions on social distancing and mass gatherings, after more than a fortnight without any new cases of the virus being recorded.Mr Peters has been a vocal advocate for a rapid resumption of business and tourism, backing the idea of direct flights between New Zealand and Tasmania.
Coronavirus update: Follow all the latest news in our daily wrap.“It’s very clear that Tasmania is set to go and we should start, frankly,” he said.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-10/nz-travel-bubble-delayed-coronavirus-state-border-restrictions/12338458
Tasmania? Nothing against Tasmania but why there? It would be similar in winter coldness and I would think the obvious would be Qld, or NT, because, well, warmer…
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:To be sure. Yes.
maybe autistic means even if you have trouble in the high pressure modern society you might not do as badly in a natural environment
Do study up on autism.
we know as much about it as any educator but what part of it exactly is your point
furious said:
sarahs mum said:
New Zealand has lifted all of its domestic restrictions on social distancing and mass gatherings, after more than a fortnight without any new cases of the virus being recorded.Mr Peters has been a vocal advocate for a rapid resumption of business and tourism, backing the idea of direct flights between New Zealand and Tasmania.
Coronavirus update: Follow all the latest news in our daily wrap.“It’s very clear that Tasmania is set to go and we should start, frankly,” he said.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-10/nz-travel-bubble-delayed-coronavirus-state-border-restrictions/12338458
Tasmania? Nothing against Tasmania but why there? It would be similar in winter coldness and I would think the obvious would be Qld, or NT, because, well, warmer…
So the people from the small islands can swap complaints about the people on the Big Island.
sarahs mum said:
William Pointon called police to a Tennant Creek property to report that a young person had broken into his residence and stolen some of his cannabis plants.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-10/cannabis-theft-man-pleads-guilty-in-alice-springs/12338590
Hey, at least no one got shot…
sarahs mum said:
New Zealand has lifted all of its domestic restrictions on social distancing and mass gatherings, after more than a fortnight without any new cases of the virus being recorded.Mr Peters has been a vocal advocate for a rapid resumption of business and tourism, backing the idea of direct flights between New Zealand and Tasmania.
Coronavirus update: Follow all the latest news in our daily wrap.“It’s very clear that Tasmania is set to go and we should start, frankly,” he said.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-10/nz-travel-bubble-delayed-coronavirus-state-border-restrictions/12338458
ROFL
The other day in the news it was NZ is going to be very careful about their dealings with Oz and weren’t going to let us rush them into anything. I suspect having restricted travel between the two countries hurts them more than it hurts us. Here’s hoping that we can get back to ‘normal’ very soon and can also include many of the small pacific nations whose economy has been absolutely hosed over in the last few months.
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
Speedy said:I wouldn’t call him lucky, especially when his condition endangers his life in this way. It’s likely that even if he does survive this, no-one will ever know his story.
To be sure. Yes.
maybe autistic means even if you have trouble in the high pressure modern society you might not do as badly in a natural environment
Listening to his Mum he seems a quite capable lad.
sarahs mum said:
William Pointon called police to a Tennant Creek property to report that a young person had broken into his residence and stolen some of his cannabis plants.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-10/cannabis-theft-man-pleads-guilty-in-alice-springs/12338590
The reason he got caught. red beard handed.
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:maybe autistic means even if you have trouble in the high pressure modern society you might not do as badly in a natural environment
Do study up on autism.
we know as much about it as any educator but what part of it exactly is your point
Each autistic person may focus on a different point.
furious said:
sarahs mum said:
William Pointon called police to a Tennant Creek property to report that a young person had broken into his residence and stolen some of his cannabis plants.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-10/cannabis-theft-man-pleads-guilty-in-alice-springs/12338590
Hey, at least no one got shot…
Yes, if this was the US he’d be thoroughly perforated by now.
Bogsnorkler said:
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:To be sure. Yes.
maybe autistic means even if you have trouble in the high pressure modern society you might not do as badly in a natural environment
Listening to his Mum he seems a quite capable lad.
Which is why they felt OK taking him up Mt Disappointment.
captain_spalding said:
furious said:
sarahs mum said:
William Pointon called police to a Tennant Creek property to report that a young person had broken into his residence and stolen some of his cannabis plants.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-10/cannabis-theft-man-pleads-guilty-in-alice-springs/12338590
Hey, at least no one got shot…
Yes, if this was the US he’d be thoroughly perforated by now.
Anyway, theft is still a crime in Australia if proven.
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
New Zealand has lifted all of its domestic restrictions on social distancing and mass gatherings, after more than a fortnight without any new cases of the virus being recorded.Mr Peters has been a vocal advocate for a rapid resumption of business and tourism, backing the idea of direct flights between New Zealand and Tasmania.
Coronavirus update: Follow all the latest news in our daily wrap.“It’s very clear that Tasmania is set to go and we should start, frankly,” he said.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-10/nz-travel-bubble-delayed-coronavirus-state-border-restrictions/12338458
ROFL
The other day in the news it was NZ is going to be very careful about their dealings with Oz and weren’t going to let us rush them into anything. I suspect having restricted travel between the two countries hurts them more than it hurts us. Here’s hoping that we can get back to ‘normal’ very soon and can also include many of the small pacific nations whose economy has been absolutely hosed over in the last few months.
Tassie is coming up to a month with no new cases.
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:Do study up on autism.
we know as much about it as any educator but what part of it exactly is your point
Each autistic person may focus on a different point.
fair
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:we know as much about it as any educator but what part of it exactly is your point
Each autistic person may focus on a different point.
fair
Thank you.
transition said:
cold water out the tap’s so cold it’s painful, even briefest wash of hands
Solution: use the hot tap.
I’d better get out there and prepare the firewood for tomorrow evening, when we’ll be back down to -2 and I’ll be wanting an evening in the living room.
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:maybe autistic means even if you have trouble in the high pressure modern society you might not do as badly in a natural environment
Do study up on autism.
we know as much about it as any educator but what part of it exactly is your point
when I go somewhere I generally tell the lady where I am going, saves her wondering where I am, she knows where I am, or where i’ve gone, and I know she knows, and she knows I know she knows
in that is some depth of orders of intentionality, requires thinking about thinking (own and others), involves I believe you believe sort of thing, and of the real world and its diverse creatures that type of capacity is not entirely uniform
Bubblecar said:
I’d better get out there and prepare the firewood for tomorrow evening, when we’ll be back down to -2 and I’ll be wanting an evening in the living room.
I was just thinking that it is too early to light the fire. But it may be lit soon anyway.
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
roughbarked said:Do study up on autism.
we know as much about it as any educator but what part of it exactly is your point
when I go somewhere I generally tell the lady where I am going, saves her wondering where I am, she knows where I am, or where i’ve gone, and I know she knows, and she knows I know she knows
in that is some depth of orders of intentionality, requires thinking about thinking (own and others), involves I believe you believe sort of thing, and of the real world and its diverse creatures that type of capacity is not entirely uniform
So you are verbal then?
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
cold water out the tap’s so cold it’s painful, even briefest wash of hands
Solution: use the hot tap.
Y’know, that’s so crazy that it just might work!
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
cold water out the tap’s so cold it’s painful, even briefest wash of hands
Solution: use the hot tap.
Y’know, that’s so crazy that it just might work!
Know a bloke who filled the kettle from the hot tap. Reckoned it saved money and time because it was already warm.
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
cold water out the tap’s so cold it’s painful, even briefest wash of hands
Solution: use the hot tap.
Y’know, that’s so crazy that it just might work!
chuckle
trying to save hot water presently, solar only
transition said:
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:Solution: use the hot tap.
Y’know, that’s so crazy that it just might work!
chuckle
trying to save hot water presently, solar only
You can do that with a long length of black poly, just give it a gradient.
meanwhile in summer the water out of the cold tap starts hotter than the regular of the hot tap
roughbarked said:
transition said:
SCIENCE said:we know as much about it as any educator but what part of it exactly is your point
when I go somewhere I generally tell the lady where I am going, saves her wondering where I am, she knows where I am, or where i’ve gone, and I know she knows, and she knows I know she knows
in that is some depth of orders of intentionality, requires thinking about thinking (own and others), involves I believe you believe sort of thing, and of the real world and its diverse creatures that type of capacity is not entirely uniform
So you are verbal then?
there may have been something educational in what I said above, but like I said whatever’s not entirely uniform
I wonder when clothing sizes will become standardized?
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
I’d better get out there and prepare the firewood for tomorrow evening, when we’ll be back down to -2 and I’ll be wanting an evening in the living room.
I was just thinking that it is too early to light the fire. But it may be lit soon anyway.
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:Solution: use the hot tap.
Y’know, that’s so crazy that it just might work!
Know a bloke who filled the kettle from the hot tap. Reckoned it saved money and time because it was already warm.
roughbarked said:
transition said:
captain_spalding said:Y’know, that’s so crazy that it just might work!
chuckle
trying to save hot water presently, solar only
You can do that with a long length of black poly, just give it a gradient.
I got a monster solar HW system, large enough for big family, just angle’s not optimum for winter, I mean it’s warm enough now to shower in, and joy of solar is you could have two long showers and water temp stays fairly much the same
just we save, suffer the cold water out the tap for washing hands, well, I do, the lady’s arthritic fingers, knuckles etc ache fairly much instantly when put under very cold water
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:Y’know, that’s so crazy that it just might work!
Know a bloke who filled the kettle from the hot tap. Reckoned it saved money and time because it was already warm.
Bad idea. Sacrificial anodes.
Ooh, there’s my new exclamation.
‘Sacrificial anodes!’.
Bogsnorkler said:
I wonder when clothing sizes will become standardized?
When/if the US goes metric.
captain_spalding said:
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:Know a bloke who filled the kettle from the hot tap. Reckoned it saved money and time because it was already warm.
Bad idea. Sacrificial anodes.Ooh, there’s my new exclamation.
‘Sacrificial anodes!’.
Bogsnorkler said:
I wonder when clothing sizes will become standardized?
Should be easily done if they are based on objective measurements using the metric system. Could eaily be adopted worldwide save for a few stubborn hold-outs.
Bogsnorkler said:
I wonder when clothing sizes will become standardized?
When people start calling is standardised
buffy said:
I’m back. Did we see this?https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-10/william-callaghan-found-safe-and-alive-on-mount-disappointment/12335618
Some good news for a change :)
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:
I wonder when clothing sizes will become standardized?
When people start calling is standardised
it
Tamb said:
Bogsnorkler said:
I wonder when clothing sizes will become standardized?
When/if the US goes metric.
nowt to do with that.
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:
I wonder when clothing sizes will become standardized?
When people start calling is standardised
nowt wrong with a zee.
sibeen said:
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:
I wonder when clothing sizes will become standardized?
When people start calling is standardised
it
recursive pedantry strike again!
Bogsnorkler said:
Tamb said:
Bogsnorkler said:
I wonder when clothing sizes will become standardized?
When/if the US goes metric.
nowt to do with that.
Bogsnorkler said:
Tamb said:
Bogsnorkler said:
I wonder when clothing sizes will become standardized?
When/if the US goes metric.
nowt to do with that.
How about ‘ when it ceases to be a marketing ploy to mislabel clothing so as to make the customer feel better e.g. make a size 16, but label it as 14 so that the customer doesn’t feel like ‘a big fat slob’ in their own mind?
this standardisation of which i talk is the xl, 2xl, 3xl variety. where those numbers and letters can translate into various actual measurement, imperial of metric, of a size.
Bogsnorkler said:
I wonder when clothing sizes will become standardized?
Have you had a look in Revelations?
Peak Warming Man said:
Bogsnorkler said:
I wonder when clothing sizes will become standardized?
Have you had a look in Revelations?
They don’t have a store near me. do they do online orders?
SCIENCE said:
meanwhile in summer the water out of the cold tap starts hotter than the regular of the hot tap
Bogsnorkler said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bogsnorkler said:
I wonder when clothing sizes will become standardized?
Have you had a look in Revelations?
They don’t have a store near me. do they do online orders?
Now, they do have a catalogue.
Bogsnorkler said:
this standardisation of which i talk is the xl, 2xl, 3xl variety. where those numbers and letters can translate into various actual measurement, imperial of metric, of a size.
I get many of my clothes from Johnny Bigg, who have size tables telling you exactly what they mean:
https://www.johnnybigg.com.au/au/
party_pants said:
Bogsnorkler said:
I wonder when clothing sizes will become standardized?
Should be easily done if they are based on objective measurements using the metric system. Could eaily be adopted worldwide save for a few stubborn hold-outs.
I can assure you that 31cm is where I am at waistband size.
captain_spalding said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Tamb said:When/if the US goes metric.
nowt to do with that.
How about ‘ when it ceases to be a marketing ploy to mislabel clothing so as to make the customer feel better e.g. make a size 16, but label it as 14 so that the customer doesn’t feel like ‘a big fat slob’ in their own mind?
Bogsnorkler said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bogsnorkler said:
I wonder when clothing sizes will become standardized?
Have you had a look in Revelations?
They don’t have a store near me. do they do online orders?
You may need to know the seven trumpets code?
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
meanwhile in summer the water out of the cold tap starts hotter than the regular of the hot tap
I could neither make beer or develop photos because the water from the tap was too warm but this was primarily because the water had been drawn from an irrigation canal and been stored in a shallow dam. Despite the shallow pipes from the dam. Same in reverse for the rainwater pipes when it frosted. However to dive into the canal water was always a challenge because it was snow melt water.
On a hot day the water out of the hot tap is always colder because it is usually insulated.
roughbarked said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Peak Warming Man said:Have you had a look in Revelations?
They don’t have a store near me. do they do online orders?
You may need to know the seven trumpets code?
Peak Warming Man said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
meanwhile in summer the water out of the cold tap starts hotter than the regular of the hot tap
I could neither make beer or develop photos because the water from the tap was too warm but this was primarily because the water had been drawn from an irrigation canal and been stored in a shallow dam. Despite the shallow pipes from the dam. Same in reverse for the rainwater pipes when it frosted. However to dive into the canal water was always a challenge because it was snow melt water.
On a hot day the water out of the hot tap is always colder because it is usually insulated.
You don’t seem to have ever lived in the bush where stuff was done sixty years before you got there and if it wasn’t broke it never needed looking at.
Bubblecar said:
Bogsnorkler said:
this standardisation of which i talk is the xl, 2xl, 3xl variety. where those numbers and letters can translate into various actual measurement, imperial of metric, of a size.
I get many of my clothes from Johnny Bigg, who have size tables telling you exactly what they mean:
https://www.johnnybigg.com.au/au/
Our model is wearing a size XL, he is 6’2” (187cm) tall, 110kg with a 43” (110 cm) chest and a 36” (91cm) waist.
XL 65cm chest
This is the crap I mean. How can the model be wearing that size when it fucking wouldn’t fit him?
Bogsnorkler said:
Bubblecar said:
Bogsnorkler said:
this standardisation of which i talk is the xl, 2xl, 3xl variety. where those numbers and letters can translate into various actual measurement, imperial of metric, of a size.
I get many of my clothes from Johnny Bigg, who have size tables telling you exactly what they mean:
https://www.johnnybigg.com.au/au/
Our model is wearing a size XL, he is 6’2” (187cm) tall, 110kg with a 43” (110 cm) chest and a 36” (91cm) waist.
XL 65cm chest
This is the crap I mean. How can the model be wearing that size when it fucking wouldn’t fit him?
Over shoulder boulder holder?
roughbarked said:
party_pants said:
Bogsnorkler said:
I wonder when clothing sizes will become standardized?
Should be easily done if they are based on objective measurements using the metric system. Could eaily be adopted worldwide save for a few stubborn hold-outs.
I can assure you that 31cm is where I am at waistband size.
Which means my gut is bigger than my arse and my pants are always at my ankles.
Bogsnorkler said:
Bubblecar said:
Bogsnorkler said:
this standardisation of which i talk is the xl, 2xl, 3xl variety. where those numbers and letters can translate into various actual measurement, imperial of metric, of a size.
I get many of my clothes from Johnny Bigg, who have size tables telling you exactly what they mean:
https://www.johnnybigg.com.au/au/
Our model is wearing a size XL, he is 6’2” (187cm) tall, 110kg with a 43” (110 cm) chest and a 36” (91cm) waist.
XL 65cm chest
This is the crap I mean. How can the model be wearing that size when it fucking wouldn’t fit him?
Ignore their model descriptions and just go by the table sizes, they seem to be reliable.
Bubblecar said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Bubblecar said:I get many of my clothes from Johnny Bigg, who have size tables telling you exactly what they mean:
https://www.johnnybigg.com.au/au/
Our model is wearing a size XL, he is 6’2” (187cm) tall, 110kg with a 43” (110 cm) chest and a 36” (91cm) waist.
XL 65cm chest
This is the crap I mean. How can the model be wearing that size when it fucking wouldn’t fit him?
Ignore their model descriptions and just go by the table sizes, they seem to be reliable.
If he has a 110cm chest then no size listed will fit. The largest is 9XL 95cm !
Bubblecar said:
Ignore their model descriptions and just go by the table sizes, they seem to be reliable.
I had to have the sleeve length of one of their jackets shortened by a local tailor, but that’s because I insisted on ordering the “long” size and you can’t get a longer jacket without longer sleeves as well.
Bogsnorkler said:
Bubblecar said:
Bogsnorkler said:Our model is wearing a size XL, he is 6’2” (187cm) tall, 110kg with a 43” (110 cm) chest and a 36” (91cm) waist.
XL 65cm chest
This is the crap I mean. How can the model be wearing that size when it fucking wouldn’t fit him?
Ignore their model descriptions and just go by the table sizes, they seem to be reliable.
If he has a 110cm chest then no size listed will fit. The largest is 9XL 95cm !
Maybe he’s lying :)
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
party_pants said:Should be easily done if they are based on objective measurements using the metric system. Could eaily be adopted worldwide save for a few stubborn hold-outs.
I can assure you that 31cm is where I am at waistband size.
Which means my gut is bigger than my arse and my pants are always at my ankles.
Bogsnorkler said:
I wonder when clothing sizes will become standardized?
There already is an Australian/NZ standard, but it’s not enforced.
Rule 303 said:
Bogsnorkler said:
I wonder when clothing sizes will become standardized?
There already is an Australian/NZ standard, but it’s not enforced.
captain_spalding said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Tamb said:When/if the US goes metric.
nowt to do with that.
How about ‘ when it ceases to be a marketing ploy to mislabel clothing so as to make the customer feel better e.g. make a size 16, but label it as 14 so that the customer doesn’t feel like ‘a big fat slob’ in their own mind?
The manipulations follow fashion. Some sizes are shifted left, some right, on the tape measure.
Rule 303 said:
captain_spalding said:
Bogsnorkler said:nowt to do with that.
How about ‘ when it ceases to be a marketing ploy to mislabel clothing so as to make the customer feel better e.g. make a size 16, but label it as 14 so that the customer doesn’t feel like ‘a big fat slob’ in their own mind?
The manipulations follow fashion. Some sizes are shifted left, some right, on the tape measure.
maybe it should go to volume, ie this shirt will encase a volume of such-n-such.
If you’re looking at shirts, it’s usually neck size that is the relevant measurement.
My chest size is about 122cm but plenty of their ordinary dress or long-sleeved shirts fit me, from around 5XL up.
Bogsnorkler said:
Rule 303 said:
captain_spalding said:How about ‘ when it ceases to be a marketing ploy to mislabel clothing so as to make the customer feel better e.g. make a size 16, but label it as 14 so that the customer doesn’t feel like ‘a big fat slob’ in their own mind?
The manipulations follow fashion. Some sizes are shifted left, some right, on the tape measure.
maybe it should go to volume, ie this shirt will encase a volume of such-n-such.
Tamb said:
Rule 303 said:
Bogsnorkler said:
I wonder when clothing sizes will become standardized?
There already is an Australian/NZ standard, but it’s not enforced.
What sort of figures cm, Xs or unrelated numbers?
It’s immaterial. The standards are widely ignored.
For waistcoats, it’s definitely belly size that matters :)
Rule 303 said:
Tamb said:
Rule 303 said:There already is an Australian/NZ standard, but it’s not enforced.
What sort of figures cm, Xs or unrelated numbers?It’s immaterial. The standards are widely ignored.
This be more true since we offshored manufacture.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Ignore their model descriptions and just go by the table sizes, they seem to be reliable.
I had to have the sleeve length of one of their jackets shortened by a local tailor, but that’s because I insisted on ordering the “long” size and you can’t get a longer jacket without longer sleeves as well.
Used to get uniform items from the stores on repayment.
Then, take them to a tailor. Shorten/lengthen sleeves as needed, turn lapels in/out as needed, take in waist, lengthen vents etc. etc.
Much less expensive than bespoke tailoring, but a much better fit and look than straight from issue.
I bought a jumper from Harris Scarf once.
One sleeve was shorter than the other and the head hole was off centre.
I threw it in the bin, couldn’t be arsed taking it back.
I think it must have been from their Circus Collection.
Bubblecar said:
For waistcoats, it’s definitely belly size that matters :)
I definitely don’t want to step out looking like Poirót.
Rule 303 said:
Tamb said:
Rule 303 said:There already is an Australian/NZ standard, but it’s not enforced.
What sort of figures cm, Xs or unrelated numbers?It’s immaterial. The standards are widely ignored.
Fairy nuff.
Still looking at the shoe: Men’s US = 10 = women’s US =12 = UK men’s 9 = UK women’s = 10 = 28.5cm
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
For waistcoats, it’s definitely belly size that matters :)
I definitely don’t want to step out looking like Poirót.
Maybe I can get a photoshopped looking waistcoat?
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
For waistcoats, it’s definitely belly size that matters :)
I definitely don’t want to step out looking like Poirót.
Maybe I can get a photoshopped looking waistcoat?
Things like waistcoats definitely need to be individually tailored.
Here ya go: Standards Australia have given up and chucked in the towel.
No, I don’t know what size the towel was.
Standards Australia Sizing Systems for Clothing
To my knowledge, the following have moved left: Waist, hips, chest (w), shoe (w) & dress sizes (w).
The following have moved right: bra cup, shoe (m), leg, chest (m).
Make of that what ye will.
Peak Warming Man said:
I bought a jumper from Harris Scarf once.
One sleeve was shorter than the other and the head hole was off centre.
I threw it in the bin, couldn’t be arsed taking it back.
I think it must have been from their Circus Collection.
Sounds freaky.
roughbarked said:
Read and Listen there may be links with sounds.
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:I can assure you that 31cm is where I am at waistband size.
Which means my gut is bigger than my arse and my pants are always at my ankles.
Having now had 270+ needles in my midriff I have a permanent bulge there. The only way to keep my pants up is with bracers. Very comfortable & no pressure on my tender belly.
Good.
Michael V said:
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:Which means my gut is bigger than my arse and my pants are always at my ankles.
Having now had 270+ needles in my midriff I have a permanent bulge there. The only way to keep my pants up is with bracers. Very comfortable & no pressure on my tender belly.Good.
Now that’s what I need. A set of braces.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
I’d better get out there and prepare the firewood for tomorrow evening, when we’ll be back down to -2 and I’ll be wanting an evening in the living room.
I was just thinking that it is too early to light the fire. But it may be lit soon anyway.
I’ve just lit ours. I had the house wide open to change over the air. But it will get cold soon. And mr buffy will be home and complain if it’s cold. (I just put on a jumper…)
I mentioned this time capsule and I wonder .. re-read. https://mb.nawcc.org/threads/time-capsule-lt-nelson-bumps-ww1-cyma-trench-watch.170162/#post-1376008
Read the remarks. http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-db.cgi?10&ranfft&2&2uswk&Cyma_370
re: date of manufacture.
Tamb said:
Rule 303 said:
Tamb said:What sort of figures cm, Xs or unrelated numbers?
It’s immaterial. The standards are widely ignored.
Fairy nuff.
Still looking at the shoe: Men’s US = 10 = women’s US =12 = UK men’s 9 = UK women’s = 10 = 28.5cm
28.5cm, that’s nearly a foot!
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
I’d better get out there and prepare the firewood for tomorrow evening, when we’ll be back down to -2 and I’ll be wanting an evening in the living room.
I was just thinking that it is too early to light the fire. But it may be lit soon anyway.
I’ve just lit ours. I had the house wide open to change over the air. But it will get cold soon. And mr buffy will be home and complain if it’s cold. (I just put on a jumper…)
I purchased another bag of fatwood. Despite the fact that I cut the chimney off when I redid the ceiling.
I simply want to look like a clever grandad when we are using the firepit.
Bogsnorkler said:
Tamb said:
Rule 303 said:It’s immaterial. The standards are widely ignored.
Fairy nuff.
Still looking at the shoe: Men’s US = 10 = women’s US =12 = UK men’s 9 = UK women’s = 10 = 28.5cm
28.5cm, that’s nearly a foot!
and all feet shall fit within?
roughbarked said:
party_pants said:
Bogsnorkler said:
I wonder when clothing sizes will become standardized?
Should be easily done if they are based on objective measurements using the metric system. Could eaily be adopted worldwide save for a few stubborn hold-outs.
I can assure you that 31cm is where I am at waistband size.
I would be very surprised if that is correct.
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
party_pants said:Should be easily done if they are based on objective measurements using the metric system. Could eaily be adopted worldwide save for a few stubborn hold-outs.
I can assure you that 31cm is where I am at waistband size.
I would be very surprised if that is correct.
maybe that is that half measure they do?
Bogsnorkler said:
buffy said:
roughbarked said:I can assure you that 31cm is where I am at waistband size.
I would be very surprised if that is correct.
maybe that is that half measure they do?
What is “that half measure”?
buffy said:
Bogsnorkler said:
buffy said:I would be very surprised if that is correct.
maybe that is that half measure they do?
What is “that half measure”?
Just measuring across the front of the flat garment.
buffy said:
Bogsnorkler said:
buffy said:I would be very surprised if that is correct.
maybe that is that half measure they do?
What is “that half measure”?
hip to hip then double it. or maybe that is for shoulder width.
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Bogsnorkler said:maybe that is that half measure they do?
What is “that half measure”?
Just measuring across the front of the flat garment.
I found some stuff online about half chest. But what you describe seems to be an odd way of measuring, and I’d never heard of it before.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-09/radar-reveals-ancient-roman-city-without-excavation/12336954
And the full paper, with many more pictures and a great explanation about how they joined several different geophysical techniques into one data set:
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/antiquity/article/groundpenetrating-radar-survey-at-falerii-novi-a-new-approach-to-the-study-of-roman-cities/BE7B8E3AE55DB6E03225B01C54CDD09B/core-reader#
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-10/massive-mushrooms-popping-up-across-victoria/12338596
Ah, the Phlebopus are up. I saw some on the side of the road out near Digby about 3 weeks ago. Now they are making the news.
:)
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:What is “that half measure”?
Just measuring across the front of the flat garment.
I found some stuff online about half chest. But what you describe seems to be an odd way of measuring, and I’d never heard of it before.
It is just one of those bits of info that you remember from long ago but don’t really know its veracity.
A helicopter is doing low circles. Not PolAir, not a traffic chopper, might be Coastguard. Not showing up on flight radar.
Divine Angel said:
A helicopter is doing low circles. Not PolAir, not a traffic chopper, might be Coastguard. Not showing up on flight radar.
Is it black with no markings?
furious said:
Divine Angel said:
A helicopter is doing low circles. Not PolAir, not a traffic chopper, might be Coastguard. Not showing up on flight radar.
Is it black with no markings?
Ooh the secret service!
Bogsnorkler said:
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:Just measuring across the front of the flat garment.
I found some stuff online about half chest. But what you describe seems to be an odd way of measuring, and I’d never heard of it before.
It is just one of those bits of info that you remember from long ago but don’t really know its veracity.
I’ve been dressmaking for about 45 years, and I’ve always thought people were 3D…
:)
dinner done, packet chicken curry pasta on toast, with homegrown parsley on top, and lots of pepper
missy’s in a cuddly mood today, she has days like that, leans up against me as walking with, turns in front of to stop me, insists on attention, rub behind the ears, rub the cheeks, a pat too
Divine Angel said:
furious said:
Divine Angel said:
A helicopter is doing low circles. Not PolAir, not a traffic chopper, might be Coastguard. Not showing up on flight radar.
Is it black with no markings?
Ooh the secret service!
Tell them nothing, admit nothing.
buffy said:
Bogsnorkler said:
buffy said:I found some stuff online about half chest. But what you describe seems to be an odd way of measuring, and I’d never heard of it before.
It is just one of those bits of info that you remember from long ago but don’t really know its veracity.
I’ve been dressmaking for about 45 years, and I’ve always thought people were 3D…
:)
Johnny Bigg uses the flat garment front measurement for various items.
Presumably because it’s easy for people to measure a shirt or jacket etc that they already have that fits properly, and order that size.
Peak Warming Man said:
Divine Angel said:
furious said:Is it black with no markings?
Ooh the secret service!
Tell them nothing, admit nothing.
and tell em they can’t prove it anyway!
transition said:
dinner done, packet chicken curry pasta on toast, with homegrown parsley on top, and lots of peppermissy’s in a cuddly mood today, she has days like that, leans up against me as walking with, turns in front of to stop me, insists on attention, rub behind the ears, rub the cheeks, a pat too
:)
Leftover beef stew with extra vegetables tonight. And I’m having it early ‘cos I skipped lunch.
Bogsnorkler said:
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:Just measuring across the front of the flat garment.
I found some stuff online about half chest. But what you describe seems to be an odd way of measuring, and I’d never heard of it before.
It is just one of those bits of info that you remember from long ago but don’t really know its veracity.
strokes chin
a friend posted this video on FB, Igave this explanation
They do that because the rapid beating of their wings uses a lot of energy and they supply this by diverting more blood to those parts. This has the consequence of depriving their brain of blood and oxygen so they tumble to correct this.
:-)
Bogsnorkler said:
a friend posted this video on FB, I gave this explanationhttps://gfycat.com/fastashamedharrierhawk
They do that because the rapid beating of their wings uses a lot of energy and they supply this by diverting more blood to those parts. This has the consequence of depriving their brain of blood and oxygen so they tumble to correct this.
:-)
Divine Angel said:
A helicopter is doing low circles. Not PolAir, not a traffic chopper, might be Coastguard. Not showing up on flight radar.
They check out questions pertaining to the need for crime scene clean-up on social media.
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Bogsnorkler said:It is just one of those bits of info that you remember from long ago but don’t really know its veracity.
I’ve been dressmaking for about 45 years, and I’ve always thought people were 3D…
:)
Johnny Bigg uses the flat garment front measurement for various items.
Presumably because it’s easy for people to measure a shirt or jacket etc that they already have that fits properly, and order that size.
MumRule bought me a couple of shirts for Christmas last year. Some catalogue thing that involved taking about thirty measurements (each by a prescribed method) and submitting them with your choice of cloth, colour, pattern, cut, sea….
I haven’t got around to it yet.
don’t expect stumps will ax themselves into heater friendly size…
Rule 303 said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:I’ve been dressmaking for about 45 years, and I’ve always thought people were 3D…
:)
Johnny Bigg uses the flat garment front measurement for various items.
Presumably because it’s easy for people to measure a shirt or jacket etc that they already have that fits properly, and order that size.
MumRule bought me a couple of shirts for Christmas last year. Some catalogue thing that involved taking about thirty measurements (each by a prescribed method) and submitting them with your choice of cloth, colour, pattern, cut, sea….
I haven’t got around to it yet.
I have considered sending them a nude full length pic of me, 3 views, with a banana for size comparison.
Rule 303 said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:I’ve been dressmaking for about 45 years, and I’ve always thought people were 3D…
:)
Johnny Bigg uses the flat garment front measurement for various items.
Presumably because it’s easy for people to measure a shirt or jacket etc that they already have that fits properly, and order that size.
MumRule bought me a couple of shirts for Christmas last year. Some catalogue thing that involved taking about thirty measurements (each by a prescribed method) and submitting them with your choice of cloth, colour, pattern, cut, sea….
I haven’t got around to it yet.
The company’s probably pocketed the money and closed.
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:
buffy said:I found some stuff online about half chest. But what you describe seems to be an odd way of measuring, and I’d never heard of it before.
It is just one of those bits of info that you remember from long ago but don’t really know its veracity.
strokes chin
Everybody needs his memories. They keep the wolf of insignificance from the door
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:
Bubblecar said:Johnny Bigg uses the flat garment front measurement for various items.
Presumably because it’s easy for people to measure a shirt or jacket etc that they already have that fits properly, and order that size.
MumRule bought me a couple of shirts for Christmas last year. Some catalogue thing that involved taking about thirty measurements (each by a prescribed method) and submitting them with your choice of cloth, colour, pattern, cut, sea….
I haven’t got around to it yet.
The company’s probably pocketed the money and closed.
I understand she send them a cheque, so who knows….
there’s a little thunderstorm heading the coast right where I am. Looks as black as the inside of a cat to the NW.
http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR704.loop.shtml#skip
Divine Angel said:
A helicopter is doing low circles. Not PolAir, not a traffic chopper, might be Coastguard. Not showing up on flight radar.
Try ADS-B Exchange.
https://tar1090.adsbexchange.com/?icao=7c39f7
I think it’s better than Flightradar.
Mr buffy is home from the bush with large lumps of firewood. They bogged the tractor. The big tractor
Winch on ute plus snatch straps plus digging plus logs – got it out, apparently. They did not take photos…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRs7SUFfZM4
Oh how I wish I had the skills to make stuff like this. (A replica veteran motorcycle.)
party_pants said:
there’s a little thunderstorm heading the coast right where I am. Looks as black as the inside of a cat to the NW.http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR704.loop.shtml#skip
You could get a little teensy bit wet.
party_pants said:
there’s a little thunderstorm heading the coast right where I am. Looks as black as the inside of a cat to the NW.http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR704.loop.shtml#skip
Usual SE Qld weather.
All mouth and no trousers.
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:
there’s a little thunderstorm heading the coast right where I am. Looks as black as the inside of a cat to the NW.http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR704.loop.shtml#skip
Usual SE Qld weather.
All mouth and no trousers.
not even….the wrong trousers???
There will be some work to be done tomorrow…
…
buffy said:
There will be some work to be done tomorrow…
…
nice
buffy said:
There will be some work to be done tomorrow…
…
Yes. I’d say so.
party_pants said:
buffy said:
There will be some work to be done tomorrow…
…
Yes. I’d say so.
Thank goodness for fit strong friends. He will bring the docking saw around and cut to length and then Mr buffy and I can use the hydraulic splitter. Then I guess we get to stack it. I suspect it is going to turn out to be more than we think it is.
Food report. Pork rashers have had garlic salt sprinkled on them and they are in the vertical grill. I’ll quickly toss together some onion, carrot and Warrigal greens in the wok and dress with Hoisin. Nice and easy.
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:
there’s a little thunderstorm heading the coast right where I am. Looks as black as the inside of a cat to the NW.http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR704.loop.shtml#skip
Usual SE Qld weather.
All mouth and no trousers.
Seems to have been a bit of a fizzer. A moderate shower for a few minutes. Certainly not what it was looking like on the radar.
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
party_pants said:Should be easily done if they are based on objective measurements using the metric system. Could eaily be adopted worldwide save for a few stubborn hold-outs.
I can assure you that 31cm is where I am at waistband size.
I would be very surprised if that is correct.
Shheessh… don’t we all know Roughy is about 4 ft tall?
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
party_pants said:Should be easily done if they are based on objective measurements using the metric system. Could eaily be adopted worldwide save for a few stubborn hold-outs.
I can assure you that 31cm is where I am at waistband size.
I would be very surprised if that is correct.
Well 32 cm is easier to do the button up but they are about my ankles within five minutes.
Bogsnorkler said:
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:Just measuring across the front of the flat garment.
I found some stuff online about half chest. But what you describe seems to be an odd way of measuring, and I’d never heard of it before.
It is just one of those bits of info that you remember from long ago but don’t really know its veracity.
No I got it wrong I was talking in inches with the cm at the end..
roughbarked said:
Bogsnorkler said:
buffy said:I found some stuff online about half chest. But what you describe seems to be an odd way of measuring, and I’d never heard of it before.
It is just one of those bits of info that you remember from long ago but don’t really know its veracity.
No I got it wrong I was talking in inches with the cm at the end..
so 30 inches is 77, 32 is 82.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
Bogsnorkler said:It is just one of those bits of info that you remember from long ago but don’t really know its veracity.
No I got it wrong I was talking in inches with the cm at the end..
so 30 inches is 77, 32 is 82.
thus my ideal would be if they made an 80cm pair.
I usually see something unusual on my walk. Perhaps an insect.
Today the unusual thing I saw on my walk was an oil rig.
A great hulking big oil drilling rig in the middle of Port Phillip Bay.
mollwollfumble said:
I usually see something unusual on my walk. Perhaps an insect.Today the unusual thing I saw on my walk was an oil rig.
A great hulking big oil drilling rig in the middle of Port Phillip Bay.
This one?

mollwollfumble said:
I usually see something unusual on my walk. Perhaps an insect.Today the unusual thing I saw on my walk was an oil rig.
A great hulking big oil drilling rig in the middle of Port Phillip Bay.
Ah, I see, this thing. Positioning of the oil drilling rig in Bass Strait was delayed by the coronavirus so it’s holed up here. Another Covid-19 economic casualty.
https://www.vicports.vic.gov.au/News/Pages/blue-marlin-entry-to-the-bay.aspx

mollwollfumble said:
I usually see something unusual on my walk. Perhaps an insect.Today the unusual thing I saw on my walk was an oil rig.
A great hulking big oil drilling rig in the middle of Port Phillip Bay.
Interesting sight.
:)
mollwollfumble said:
mollwollfumble said:
I usually see something unusual on my walk. Perhaps an insect.Today the unusual thing I saw on my walk was an oil rig.
A great hulking big oil drilling rig in the middle of Port Phillip Bay.
Ah, I see, this thing. Positioning of the oil drilling rig in Bass Strait was delayed by the coronavirus so it’s holed up here. Another Covid-19 economic casualty.
https://www.vicports.vic.gov.au/News/Pages/blue-marlin-entry-to-the-bay.aspx
aren’t they glad, they might have ended up with negative prices and having to pay for the storage
Bubblecar said:
mollwollfumble said:
I usually see something unusual on my walk. Perhaps an insect.Today the unusual thing I saw on my walk was an oil rig.
A great hulking big oil drilling rig in the middle of Port Phillip Bay.
This one?
No, that one was heading to Bass Strait late last year. Video here:
CarbonNet’s drilling rig prepared in Port Phillip Bay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWZwoo7xyiU
dv said:
ROFL
sibeen said:
dv said:
ROFL
hmm we wonder if this softens the message or in contrast draws more attention to it
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/10/surgisphere-sapan-desai-lancet-study-hydroxychloroquine-mass-audit-scientific-papers
God damn it I just messed up two chess games in a row … one of them I mucked up a pawn advantage to let the dude get away with a stalemate. The other I had a Q versus two knights and I just couldn’t close.
dv said:
God damn it I just messed up two chess games in a row … one of them I mucked up a pawn advantage to let the dude get away with a stalemate. The other I had a Q versus two knights and I just couldn’t close.
Live & learn.
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
God damn it I just messed up two chess games in a row … one of them I mucked up a pawn advantage to let the dude get away with a stalemate. The other I had a Q versus two knights and I just couldn’t close.
Live & learn.
well sheikh met doesn’t really mean live
I did not know the word rort is an Australian and New Zealand thing.
sarahs mum said:
I did not know the word rort is an Australian and New Zealand thing.
something that should be tort in school
sarahs mum said:
I did not know the word rort is an Australian and New Zealand thing.
Huh!
Now I do too, thanks.
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
I did not know the word rort is an Australian and New Zealand thing.
Huh!
Now I do too, thanks.
this is news to me too.
some porn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94mINLDSWlk
Bogsnorkler said:
some pornhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94mINLDSWlk
Ha!
:)
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
some pornhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94mINLDSWlk
Ha!
:)
Sounds nice and positive, pragmatic

shopped!!!
Ever notice how Oscar Wilde looks like Stephen Fry?
dv said:
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
some pornhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94mINLDSWlk
Ha!
:)
Sounds nice and positive, pragmatic
they have a series on different online problems etc.
Do doctors still recommend for people to move to warmer climes to cure certain ailments?
Bogsnorkler said:
![]()
shopped!!!
LOLOLOLOL.
MAGA!
Divine Angel said:
Ever notice how Oscar Wilde looks like Stephen Fry?
never seen in the same room together…
Divine Angel said:
Ever notice how Oscar Wilde looks like Stephen Fry?
Well, no, I hadn’t. Until now.
Do they both look like Dorian Grey?
party_pants said:
Do doctors still recommend for people to move to warmer climes to cure certain ailments?
Chillblains probably.
Bogsnorkler said:
![]()
shopped!!!
There’s three big dicks in that picture.
But what are those things that they’re holding?
party_pants said:
Do doctors still recommend for people to move to warmer climes to cure certain ailments?
Dunno. Do they?
Divine Angel said:
Ever notice how Oscar Wilde looks like Stephen Fry?
Fry played him in the movie
Let’s see who really knows their poo
https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2020-01-02/quiz-what-scat/11775586
6/8 for me
Speedy said:
Let’s see who really knows their poohttps://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2020-01-02/quiz-what-scat/11775586
6/8 for me
7. I mostly know my shit.
sarahs mum said:
Speedy said:
Let’s see who really knows their poohttps://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2020-01-02/quiz-what-scat/11775586
6/8 for me
7. I mostly know my shit.
surprised look
I also got 7. In matters scatalogical Im more knowledgeable than I thought.
dv said:
Divine Angel said:
Ever notice how Oscar Wilde looks like Stephen Fry?
Fry played him in the movie
So did Michael Gambon, in another movie.
Speedy said:
Let’s see who really knows their poohttps://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2020-01-02/quiz-what-scat/11775586
6/8 for me
5

Speedy said:
Let’s see who really knows their poohttps://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2020-01-02/quiz-what-scat/11775586
6/8 for me
Same.
Wonder how big their poo was.

Neophyte said:
dv said:
Divine Angel said:
Ever notice how Oscar Wilde looks like Stephen Fry?
Fry played him in the movie
So did Michael Gambon, in another movie.
You’ve inspired me to take a look at who else has played him. It’s quite a distinguished bunch.
Robert Morley played him in the 1960 film Oscar Wilde, and Australian Peter Finch in the other 1960 film The Trials of Oscar Wilde. Morley was an Oscar nominee and Finch of course won a posthumous Oscar for Network. Nickolas Grace played him in Salome’s Last Dance, and Peter Egan also played him on TV.
Rupert Everett played him in the 2018 film The Happy Prince and I’m sorry to say I’ve never even ‘eard of it.
dv said:
Neophyte said:
dv said:Fry played him in the movie
So did Michael Gambon, in another movie.
You’ve inspired me to take a look at who else has played him. It’s quite a distinguished bunch.
Robert Morley played him in the 1960 film Oscar Wilde, and Australian Peter Finch in the other 1960 film The Trials of Oscar Wilde. Morley was an Oscar nominee and Finch of course won a posthumous Oscar for Network. Nickolas Grace played him in Salome’s Last Dance, and Peter Egan also played him on TV.
Rupert Everett played him in the 2018 film The Happy Prince and I’m sorry to say I’ve never even ‘eard of it.
Would be interesting to see some completely unsuitable actor playing him, like John Wayne or Sylvester Stallone.
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Neophyte said:So did Michael Gambon, in another movie.
You’ve inspired me to take a look at who else has played him. It’s quite a distinguished bunch.
Robert Morley played him in the 1960 film Oscar Wilde, and Australian Peter Finch in the other 1960 film The Trials of Oscar Wilde. Morley was an Oscar nominee and Finch of course won a posthumous Oscar for Network. Nickolas Grace played him in Salome’s Last Dance, and Peter Egan also played him on TV.
Rupert Everett played him in the 2018 film The Happy Prince and I’m sorry to say I’ve never even ‘eard of it.
Would be interesting to see some completely unsuitable actor playing him, like John Wayne or Sylvester Stallone.
Andie Mcdowell.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
dv said:You’ve inspired me to take a look at who else has played him. It’s quite a distinguished bunch.
Robert Morley played him in the 1960 film Oscar Wilde, and Australian Peter Finch in the other 1960 film The Trials of Oscar Wilde. Morley was an Oscar nominee and Finch of course won a posthumous Oscar for Network. Nickolas Grace played him in Salome’s Last Dance, and Peter Egan also played him on TV.
Rupert Everett played him in the 2018 film The Happy Prince and I’m sorry to say I’ve never even ‘eard of it.
Would be interesting to see some completely unsuitable actor playing him, like John Wayne or Sylvester Stallone.
Andie Mcdowell.
Cate blanchett.
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:Would be interesting to see some completely unsuitable actor playing him, like John Wayne or Sylvester Stallone.
Andie Mcdowell.
Cate blanchett.
Dolly Parton.
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:Would be interesting to see some completely unsuitable actor playing him, like John Wayne or Sylvester Stallone.
Andie Mcdowell.
Cate blanchett.
chuckle
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:Andie Mcdowell.
Cate blanchett.
Dolly Parton.
Give Dolly the right wig…
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Neophyte said:So did Michael Gambon, in another movie.
You’ve inspired me to take a look at who else has played him. It’s quite a distinguished bunch.
Robert Morley played him in the 1960 film Oscar Wilde, and Australian Peter Finch in the other 1960 film The Trials of Oscar Wilde. Morley was an Oscar nominee and Finch of course won a posthumous Oscar for Network. Nickolas Grace played him in Salome’s Last Dance, and Peter Egan also played him on TV.
Rupert Everett played him in the 2018 film The Happy Prince and I’m sorry to say I’ve never even ‘eard of it.
Would be interesting to see some completely unsuitable actor playing him, like John Wayne or Sylvester Stallone.
“Truly, this man wuz the Marquess of Queensbury”
Neophyte said:
Bubblecar said:
dv said:You’ve inspired me to take a look at who else has played him. It’s quite a distinguished bunch.
Robert Morley played him in the 1960 film Oscar Wilde, and Australian Peter Finch in the other 1960 film The Trials of Oscar Wilde. Morley was an Oscar nominee and Finch of course won a posthumous Oscar for Network. Nickolas Grace played him in Salome’s Last Dance, and Peter Egan also played him on TV.
Rupert Everett played him in the 2018 film The Happy Prince and I’m sorry to say I’ve never even ‘eard of it.
Would be interesting to see some completely unsuitable actor playing him, like John Wayne or Sylvester Stallone.
“Truly, this man wuz the Marquess of Queensbury”
You’ve reminded me that Robert De Niro, in the otherwise splendid movie Ronin, kind of messed up a scene by mispronouncing Hereford. I’m surprised they didn’t get him to have another go.
dv said:
Neophyte said:
Bubblecar said:Would be interesting to see some completely unsuitable actor playing him, like John Wayne or Sylvester Stallone.
“Truly, this man wuz the Marquess of Queensbury”
You’ve reminded me that Robert De Niro, in the otherwise splendid movie Ronin, kind of messed up a scene by mispronouncing Hereford. I’m surprised they didn’t get him to have another go.
Sure he didn’t mispronounce it on purpose to catch out Sean Bean?
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:
Neophyte said:“Truly, this man wuz the Marquess of Queensbury”
You’ve reminded me that Robert De Niro, in the otherwise splendid movie Ronin, kind of messed up a scene by mispronouncing Hereford. I’m surprised they didn’t get him to have another go.
Sure he didn’t mispronounce it on purpose to catch out Sean Bean?
(breathes in through teeth) that would be a risky ploy. I mean an Englishmen would almost certainly know how Hereford is pronounced, regardless of whether they are SAS
dv said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:You’ve reminded me that Robert De Niro, in the otherwise splendid movie Ronin, kind of messed up a scene by mispronouncing Hereford. I’m surprised they didn’t get him to have another go.
Sure he didn’t mispronounce it on purpose to catch out Sean Bean?
(breathes in through teeth) that would be a risky ploy. I mean an Englishmen would almost certainly know how Hereford is pronounced, regardless of whether they are SAS
True.

barbara’s new roosting place, late today, after being flushed by a cat couple nights before, she’s now very near my bedroom, in a cedar tree, up high
here she is investigating the branches etc as she ascends, so was possibly first time she been up there
transition said:
barbara’s new roosting place, late today, after being flushed by a cat couple nights before, she’s now very near my bedroom, in a cedar tree, up highhere she is investigating the branches etc as she ascends, so was possibly first time she been up there
:)
one of the youngsters of family of lizards around here, he seems to pull up anywhere when gets cold, so lady put something over it so doesn’t get trodden on
transition said:
one of the youngsters of family of lizards around here, he seems to pull up anywhere when gets cold, so lady put something over it so doesn’t get trodden on
Looks like a lady, narrower and less butch head than the male.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/09/boris-johnson-trade-deal-us-chlorinated-chicken
sarahs mum said:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/09/boris-johnson-trade-deal-us-chlorinated-chicken
Wonder what chlorinated chicken tastes like?
That’s a lot of clones. 
roughbarked said:
That’s a lot of clones.
and there were 20 of these grow houses.
roughbarked said:
That’s a lot of clones.
That would smell a bit.
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:
That’s a lot of clones.
That would smell a bit.
Reek is the word.
Good morning Holidayers. Two degrees and getting light. The air has a bite to it.
Friend is coming down from Hamilton for our weekly walk to the bakery for his supplies and breakfast to then be consumed in our kitchen by the woodheater.
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Two degrees and getting light. The air has a bite to it.Friend is coming down from Hamilton for our weekly walk to the bakery for his supplies and breakfast to then be consumed in our kitchen by the woodheater.
‘I refuse to bow down’: J.K. Rowling takes on trans activists in essay
London: J.K. Rowling has revealed she is a victim of domestic violence and sexual assault in a lengthy essay in which she defended her views over the transgender movement and concerns about allowing men who identify as women to use female bathrooms.
Rowling said she had stepped back from using social media as a result of the harassment she has received since she began questioning trans activists in December last
But the Harry Potter author said she refused to “bow down” to a movement that was seeking to erode women and offering “cover to predators.”
“Everywhere, women are being told to shut up and sit down, or else,” Rowling said.
“I’ve read all the arguments about femaleness not residing in the sexed body, and the assertions that biological women don’t have common experiences, and I find them, too, deeply misogynistic and regressive.”
Rowling’s 3640-word piece was in response to the most recent social media backlash she sparked on Saturday when she criticised the phrase “people who menstruate” to describe women.
“‘People who menstruate.’” Rowling wrote on Twitter. “I’m sure there used to be a word for those people. Someone help me out. Wumben? Wimpund? Woomud?”
“If sex isn’t real, there’s no same-sex attraction,” Rowling continued.
“If sex isn’t real, the lived reality of women globally is erased”
Rowling was linking to an article written by three academics calling for more access to water and sanitation, education as well as cloths, pads and cups for the some 500 million of the 1.8 billion girls, women and “gender non-binary persons” who menstruate but have had their ability to practise good hygiene during their periods further compromised by the pandemic.
One of those academics, Marni Sommer from Columbia University, told The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age that the phrase was developed by the “menstrual community” comprising activists, NGOs, researchers, UN agencies and governments.
“It’s not us, the authors, who introduced that terminology,” Sommer said.
“It emerged from some careful work that has been done in recent years in the menstrual community to be more inclusive of everyone who menstruates.”
In her essay, Rowling said the so-called inclusive language that trans activists demand, calling females “menstruators” or as “people with vulvas” was “dehumanising and demeaning” to many women.
“I understand why trans activists consider this language to be appropriate and kind, but for those of us who’ve had degrading slurs spat at us by violent men, it’s not neutral, it’s hostile and alienating.”
The post generated more than 30,000 responses on Twitter, most of which were critical and urged her to keep silent, accusing her of being a misogynist, transphobic and a TERF – the acronym widely used by trans activists that stands for Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminist.
“I decided not to kill myself because I wanted to know how Harry’s story ended,” a US-based account named Kate Beetle wrote in response, referring to Rowling’s bestselling books.
“For a long time, that was all that kept me alive. Until I met my husband who helped me learn to love myself and to want to live. You just insulted him to my face.
“I hate you,” she said. That response was liked by more than 50,000 Twitter accounts.
On Wednesday, Rowling listed five reasons for why she had decided to keep speaking out despite being harassed for her “wrongthink.”
She said she had been researching trans issues and the subject of gender identity for two years, partly to help inform a character she is writing and also out of personal concern.
She said when she returned to Twitter on the weekend to share a free children’s book during the pandemic, she was “swarmed” by activists “who clearly believe themselves to be good, kind and progressive people assuming a right to police my speech.”
Since her charitable trust focuses on fighting social deprivation amongst Scottish women and children, supports female prisoners and survivors of domestic and sexual abuse, as well as funding research into Multiple Sclerosis, which affects men and women differently, Rowling had reasons for her interest in preserving the definition of man and woman based on their sex.
She said also, that as an ex-teacher, she held “deep concerns” about the effect the trans rights movement is having on the education and safety of children.
She said a third reason for speaking up was that as a much-banned author, she would always promote free speech, even for US President Donald Trump, to whom she is politically opposed.
Rowling, a mother of two, said her fourth reason was “truly personal” and centred on the “huge explosion” or 4400 per cent increase in young women being referred for transitioning treatment.
Rowling said there were “increasing numbers” of people regretting their choice and wanting to return to their original sex, but in some cases after altering their bodies irreversibly and removing their fertility.
“The more I’ve wondered whether, if I’d been born 30 years later, I too might have tried to transition,” she said, revealed she struggled with severe Obsessive Compulsive Disorder as a teenager.
“If I’d found community and sympathy online that I couldn’t find in my immediate environment, I believe I could have been persuaded to turn myself into the son my father had openly said he’d have preferred.”
Rowling said her fifth and final reason was prompted by the violence and sexual assault she suffered during her first marriage.
She said defending separate male and women toilet blocks for example, as opposed to gender-neutral facilities demanded by trans activists, was out of solidarity for other domestic violence victims who have been “slurred as bigots” for holding concerns around single-sex spaces.
“When you throw open the doors of bathrooms and changing rooms to any man who believes or feels he’s a woman – and, as I’ve said, gender confirmation certificates may now be granted without any need for surgery or hormones – then you open the door to any and all men who wish to come inside.
“That is the simple truth.”
Rowling used a new Twitter function that disables replies aimed at preventing online pile-ons when posting her latest comments on the social media platform.
But that didn’t stop a flood of criticism. “I honestly don’t even understand the logic of J.K Rowling’s argument,” wrote actress Felicia Day.
“All I know is that it feels steeped in fear and hate and it makes me so so sad.”
https://www.theage.com.au/world/europe/i-refuse-to-bow-down-j-k-rowling-takes-on-trans-activists-in-essay-20200611-p551g3.html
Witty Rejoinder said:
‘I refuse to bow down’: J.K. Rowling takes on trans activists in essayLondon: J.K. Rowling has revealed she is a victim of domestic violence and sexual assault in a lengthy essay in which she defended her views over the transgender movement and concerns about allowing men who identify as women to use female bathrooms.
Rowling said she had stepped back from using social media as a result of the harassment she has received since she began questioning trans activists in December last
But the Harry Potter author said she refused to “bow down” to a movement that was seeking to erode women and offering “cover to predators.”
“Everywhere, women are being told to shut up and sit down, or else,” Rowling said.
“I’ve read all the arguments about femaleness not residing in the sexed body, and the assertions that biological women don’t have common experiences, and I find them, too, deeply misogynistic and regressive.”
Rowling’s 3640-word piece was in response to the most recent social media backlash she sparked on Saturday when she criticised the phrase “people who menstruate” to describe women.
“‘People who menstruate.’” Rowling wrote on Twitter. “I’m sure there used to be a word for those people. Someone help me out. Wumben? Wimpund? Woomud?”
“If sex isn’t real, there’s no same-sex attraction,” Rowling continued.
“If sex isn’t real, the lived reality of women globally is erased”
Rowling was linking to an article written by three academics calling for more access to water and sanitation, education as well as cloths, pads and cups for the some 500 million of the 1.8 billion girls, women and “gender non-binary persons” who menstruate but have had their ability to practise good hygiene during their periods further compromised by the pandemic.
One of those academics, Marni Sommer from Columbia University, told The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age that the phrase was developed by the “menstrual community” comprising activists, NGOs, researchers, UN agencies and governments.
“It’s not us, the authors, who introduced that terminology,” Sommer said.
“It emerged from some careful work that has been done in recent years in the menstrual community to be more inclusive of everyone who menstruates.”
In her essay, Rowling said the so-called inclusive language that trans activists demand, calling females “menstruators” or as “people with vulvas” was “dehumanising and demeaning” to many women.
“I understand why trans activists consider this language to be appropriate and kind, but for those of us who’ve had degrading slurs spat at us by violent men, it’s not neutral, it’s hostile and alienating.”
The post generated more than 30,000 responses on Twitter, most of which were critical and urged her to keep silent, accusing her of being a misogynist, transphobic and a TERF – the acronym widely used by trans activists that stands for Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminist.
“I decided not to kill myself because I wanted to know how Harry’s story ended,” a US-based account named Kate Beetle wrote in response, referring to Rowling’s bestselling books.
“For a long time, that was all that kept me alive. Until I met my husband who helped me learn to love myself and to want to live. You just insulted him to my face.
“I hate you,” she said. That response was liked by more than 50,000 Twitter accounts.
On Wednesday, Rowling listed five reasons for why she had decided to keep speaking out despite being harassed for her “wrongthink.”
She said she had been researching trans issues and the subject of gender identity for two years, partly to help inform a character she is writing and also out of personal concern.
She said when she returned to Twitter on the weekend to share a free children’s book during the pandemic, she was “swarmed” by activists “who clearly believe themselves to be good, kind and progressive people assuming a right to police my speech.”
Since her charitable trust focuses on fighting social deprivation amongst Scottish women and children, supports female prisoners and survivors of domestic and sexual abuse, as well as funding research into Multiple Sclerosis, which affects men and women differently, Rowling had reasons for her interest in preserving the definition of man and woman based on their sex.
She said also, that as an ex-teacher, she held “deep concerns” about the effect the trans rights movement is having on the education and safety of children.
She said a third reason for speaking up was that as a much-banned author, she would always promote free speech, even for US President Donald Trump, to whom she is politically opposed.
Rowling, a mother of two, said her fourth reason was “truly personal” and centred on the “huge explosion” or 4400 per cent increase in young women being referred for transitioning treatment.
Rowling said there were “increasing numbers” of people regretting their choice and wanting to return to their original sex, but in some cases after altering their bodies irreversibly and removing their fertility.
“The more I’ve wondered whether, if I’d been born 30 years later, I too might have tried to transition,” she said, revealed she struggled with severe Obsessive Compulsive Disorder as a teenager.
“If I’d found community and sympathy online that I couldn’t find in my immediate environment, I believe I could have been persuaded to turn myself into the son my father had openly said he’d have preferred.”
Rowling said her fifth and final reason was prompted by the violence and sexual assault she suffered during her first marriage.
She said defending separate male and women toilet blocks for example, as opposed to gender-neutral facilities demanded by trans activists, was out of solidarity for other domestic violence victims who have been “slurred as bigots” for holding concerns around single-sex spaces.
“When you throw open the doors of bathrooms and changing rooms to any man who believes or feels he’s a woman – and, as I’ve said, gender confirmation certificates may now be granted without any need for surgery or hormones – then you open the door to any and all men who wish to come inside.
“That is the simple truth.”
Rowling used a new Twitter function that disables replies aimed at preventing online pile-ons when posting her latest comments on the social media platform.
But that didn’t stop a flood of criticism. “I honestly don’t even understand the logic of J.K Rowling’s argument,” wrote actress Felicia Day.
“All I know is that it feels steeped in fear and hate and it makes me so so sad.”
https://www.theage.com.au/world/europe/i-refuse-to-bow-down-j-k-rowling-takes-on-trans-activists-in-essay-20200611-p551g3.html
This argument would disappear if all public dunnies were gender-less. The new public dunnies in the park above the beach here are gender-less and wheel-chair accessible.
JK Rowling: PR fail. A ~3400 word essay defending your comments is not the right way to win support.
However it does cement her position as a supporter of free speech, in yet another case of separating art from the artist.
Even Adam Lambert called her out on Twitter, something he rarely does.
I dunno about unisex public toilets… I’ve smelled the men’s loos and they are disgusting.
Some years ago, when I worked at the doughnut place, there was a young boy who was sexually assaulted in the men’s toilets at work. I wasn’t there at the time, it happened after I’d closed up and gone home. A friend who worked at the all-night cafe told me what happened.
The police locked down the loos to do their forensic investigation. The literal crap that was all over the walls made the job quite difficult. (Friend overheard the cops talking.) Also has something to do with the cleaners at the time… they were terrible cleaners. But that’s another story.
In general I think that they are a bad idea…
Michael V said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
‘I refuse to bow down’: J.K. Rowling takes on trans activists in essayLondon: J.K. Rowling has revealed she is a victim of domestic violence and sexual assault in a lengthy essay in which she defended her views over the transgender movement and concerns about allowing men who identify as women to use female bathrooms.
Rowling said she had stepped back from using social media as a result of the harassment she has received since she began questioning trans activists in December last
But the Harry Potter author said she refused to “bow down” to a movement that was seeking to erode women and offering “cover to predators.”
“Everywhere, women are being told to shut up and sit down, or else,” Rowling said.
“I’ve read all the arguments about femaleness not residing in the sexed body, and the assertions that biological women don’t have common experiences, and I find them, too, deeply misogynistic and regressive.”
Rowling’s 3640-word piece was in response to the most recent social media backlash she sparked on Saturday when she criticised the phrase “people who menstruate” to describe women.
“‘People who menstruate.’” Rowling wrote on Twitter. “I’m sure there used to be a word for those people. Someone help me out. Wumben? Wimpund? Woomud?”
“If sex isn’t real, there’s no same-sex attraction,” Rowling continued.
“If sex isn’t real, the lived reality of women globally is erased”
Rowling was linking to an article written by three academics calling for more access to water and sanitation, education as well as cloths, pads and cups for the some 500 million of the 1.8 billion girls, women and “gender non-binary persons” who menstruate but have had their ability to practise good hygiene during their periods further compromised by the pandemic.
One of those academics, Marni Sommer from Columbia University, told The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age that the phrase was developed by the “menstrual community” comprising activists, NGOs, researchers, UN agencies and governments.
“It’s not us, the authors, who introduced that terminology,” Sommer said.
“It emerged from some careful work that has been done in recent years in the menstrual community to be more inclusive of everyone who menstruates.”
In her essay, Rowling said the so-called inclusive language that trans activists demand, calling females “menstruators” or as “people with vulvas” was “dehumanising and demeaning” to many women.
“I understand why trans activists consider this language to be appropriate and kind, but for those of us who’ve had degrading slurs spat at us by violent men, it’s not neutral, it’s hostile and alienating.”
The post generated more than 30,000 responses on Twitter, most of which were critical and urged her to keep silent, accusing her of being a misogynist, transphobic and a TERF – the acronym widely used by trans activists that stands for Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminist.
“I decided not to kill myself because I wanted to know how Harry’s story ended,” a US-based account named Kate Beetle wrote in response, referring to Rowling’s bestselling books.
“For a long time, that was all that kept me alive. Until I met my husband who helped me learn to love myself and to want to live. You just insulted him to my face.
“I hate you,” she said. That response was liked by more than 50,000 Twitter accounts.
On Wednesday, Rowling listed five reasons for why she had decided to keep speaking out despite being harassed for her “wrongthink.”
She said she had been researching trans issues and the subject of gender identity for two years, partly to help inform a character she is writing and also out of personal concern.
She said when she returned to Twitter on the weekend to share a free children’s book during the pandemic, she was “swarmed” by activists “who clearly believe themselves to be good, kind and progressive people assuming a right to police my speech.”
Since her charitable trust focuses on fighting social deprivation amongst Scottish women and children, supports female prisoners and survivors of domestic and sexual abuse, as well as funding research into Multiple Sclerosis, which affects men and women differently, Rowling had reasons for her interest in preserving the definition of man and woman based on their sex.
She said also, that as an ex-teacher, she held “deep concerns” about the effect the trans rights movement is having on the education and safety of children.
She said a third reason for speaking up was that as a much-banned author, she would always promote free speech, even for US President Donald Trump, to whom she is politically opposed.
Rowling, a mother of two, said her fourth reason was “truly personal” and centred on the “huge explosion” or 4400 per cent increase in young women being referred for transitioning treatment.
Rowling said there were “increasing numbers” of people regretting their choice and wanting to return to their original sex, but in some cases after altering their bodies irreversibly and removing their fertility.
“The more I’ve wondered whether, if I’d been born 30 years later, I too might have tried to transition,” she said, revealed she struggled with severe Obsessive Compulsive Disorder as a teenager.
“If I’d found community and sympathy online that I couldn’t find in my immediate environment, I believe I could have been persuaded to turn myself into the son my father had openly said he’d have preferred.”
Rowling said her fifth and final reason was prompted by the violence and sexual assault she suffered during her first marriage.
She said defending separate male and women toilet blocks for example, as opposed to gender-neutral facilities demanded by trans activists, was out of solidarity for other domestic violence victims who have been “slurred as bigots” for holding concerns around single-sex spaces.
“When you throw open the doors of bathrooms and changing rooms to any man who believes or feels he’s a woman – and, as I’ve said, gender confirmation certificates may now be granted without any need for surgery or hormones – then you open the door to any and all men who wish to come inside.
“That is the simple truth.”
Rowling used a new Twitter function that disables replies aimed at preventing online pile-ons when posting her latest comments on the social media platform.
But that didn’t stop a flood of criticism. “I honestly don’t even understand the logic of J.K Rowling’s argument,” wrote actress Felicia Day.
“All I know is that it feels steeped in fear and hate and it makes me so so sad.”
https://www.theage.com.au/world/europe/i-refuse-to-bow-down-j-k-rowling-takes-on-trans-activists-in-essay-20200611-p551g3.html
This argument would disappear if all public dunnies were gender-less. The new public dunnies in the park above the beach here are gender-less and wheel-chair accessible.
It’s all semantics anyway. If we redefine ‘women’ based on gender identity we’ll just change the terminology for toilets to be those ‘with vulvas’ and those ‘with penises’.
Divine Angel said:
I dunno about unisex public toilets… I’ve smelled the men’s loos and they are disgusting.Some years ago, when I worked at the doughnut place, there was a young boy who was sexually assaulted in the men’s toilets at work. I wasn’t there at the time, it happened after I’d closed up and gone home. A friend who worked at the all-night cafe told me what happened.
The police locked down the loos to do their forensic investigation. The literal crap that was all over the walls made the job quite difficult. (Friend overheard the cops talking.) Also has something to do with the cleaners at the time… they were terrible cleaners. But that’s another story.
Ours here are just fine. Each dunny opens onto a public contact-less hand-basin area. They are cleaned regularly and seem to remain clean.
Divine Angel said:
JK Rowling: PR fail. A ~3400 word essay defending your comments is not the right way to win support.However it does cement her position as a supporter of free speech, in yet another case of separating art from the artist.
Even Adam Lambert called her out on Twitter, something he rarely does.
Is supporting “free speech” (whatever that means) something that needs to be called out then?
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
I dunno about unisex public toilets… I’ve smelled the men’s loos and they are disgusting.Some years ago, when I worked at the doughnut place, there was a young boy who was sexually assaulted in the men’s toilets at work. I wasn’t there at the time, it happened after I’d closed up and gone home. A friend who worked at the all-night cafe told me what happened.
The police locked down the loos to do their forensic investigation. The literal crap that was all over the walls made the job quite difficult. (Friend overheard the cops talking.) Also has something to do with the cleaners at the time… they were terrible cleaners. But that’s another story.
Ours here are just fine. Each dunny opens onto a public contact-less hand-basin area. They are cleaned regularly and seem to remain clean.
Never had any probs with, or heard comments about probs with, unisex toilets in some of the hospital areas i’ve worked in.
I remarked to a cleaner in one place that some of the blokes who used the mens’ toilets could take a bit more care and be less messy. She said that womens’ toilets generally way outstripped mens’ dunnies for messiness.
Michael V said:
This argument would disappear if all public dunnies were gender-less. The new public dunnies in the park above the beach here are gender-less and wheel-chair accessible.
Sydney train stations have had gender-less public loos for some time.
They work OK, but tend to be all full most of the time during the day.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Divine Angel said:
JK Rowling: PR fail. A ~3400 word essay defending your comments is not the right way to win support.However it does cement her position as a supporter of free speech, in yet another case of separating art from the artist.
Even Adam Lambert called her out on Twitter, something he rarely does.
Is supporting “free speech” (whatever that means) something that needs to be called out then?
in fairness she probably doesn’t feel like she needs support. She’s rich as Croesus, she’s not running for office or anything, she doesn’t need to convince anyone.
so is anyone else seeing a green and yellow forum?
The Rev Dodgson said:
Divine Angel said:
JK Rowling: PR fail. A ~3400 word essay defending your comments is not the right way to win support.However it does cement her position as a supporter of free speech, in yet another case of separating art from the artist.
Even Adam Lambert called her out on Twitter, something he rarely does.
Is supporting “free speech” (whatever that means) something that needs to be called out then?
To me, the term ‘calling out’ implies that the person being is pointed to for having done something wrong. Wrong, by the definition of the people pointing.
‘Look here, see the sinner, see the wrong-doer, cast your stones, make them suffer for what i believe is their error!’.
Some people said some things. Rowling said something about that.
Now, a lot of people want warm fuzzies from joining in the politically-correct slanging at her.
She may be wrong, but it’s her right to be wrong. And people can make up their own minds about that.
dv said:
so is anyone else seeing a green and yellow forum?
Not me…
Green/yellow? Nope.
Cable properly connected between PC and monitor?
captain_spalding said:
Green/yellow? Nope.Cable properly connected between PC and monitor?
DV is probably is having a stroke.
dv said:
so is anyone else seeing a green and yellow forum?
Are you in the gardening section?
Witty Rejoinder said:
captain_spalding said:
Green/yellow? Nope.Cable properly connected between PC and monitor?
DV is probably is having a stroke.
Or he accidentally set his PC to Patriot (Aus)…
Morning punters and correctors, windless, cool, some sun in the Pearl of the South Specific.
Greetings
Witty Rejoinder said:
captain_spalding said:
Green/yellow? Nope.Cable properly connected between PC and monitor?
DV is probably is having a stroke.
phew
dv said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
captain_spalding said:
Green/yellow? Nope.Cable properly connected between PC and monitor?
DV is probably is having a stroke.
phew
DV has finished having a stroke…
Blueberries are expensive now, $6.50 a punnet.
Before the dam panic they were like $3.5 or there abouts.
I wonder why the jump.
Peak Warming Man said:
Blueberries are expensive now, $6.50 a punnet.
Before the dam panic they were like $3.5 or there abouts.
I wonder why the jump.
They are a cure for everything?
Peak Warming Man said:
Blueberries are expensive now, $6.50 a punnet.
Before the dam panic they were like $3.5 or there abouts.
I wonder why the jump.
Seasonal?
dv said:
so is anyone else seeing a green and yellow forum?
Here? No.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Blueberries are expensive now, $6.50 a punnet.
Before the dam panic they were like $3.5 or there abouts.
I wonder why the jump.
They are a cure for everything?
Pretty much, certainly good for coughs, colds and sore holes.
Peak Warming Man said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Blueberries are expensive now, $6.50 a punnet.
Before the dam panic they were like $3.5 or there abouts.
I wonder why the jump.
They are a cure for everything?
Pretty much, certainly good for coughs, colds and sore holes.
Not good for depression though
roughbarked said:
Quite different here.

captain_spalding said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Divine Angel said:
JK Rowling: PR fail. A ~3400 word essay defending your comments is not the right way to win support.However it does cement her position as a supporter of free speech, in yet another case of separating art from the artist.
Even Adam Lambert called her out on Twitter, something he rarely does.
Is supporting “free speech” (whatever that means) something that needs to be called out then?
To me, the term ‘calling out’ implies that the person being is pointed to for having done something wrong. Wrong, by the definition of the people pointing.
‘Look here, see the sinner, see the wrong-doer, cast your stones, make them suffer for what i believe is their error!’.
Some people said some things. Rowling said something about that.
Now, a lot of people want warm fuzzies from joining in the politically-correct slanging at her.
She may be wrong, but it’s her right to be wrong. And people can make up their own minds about that.
Nothing quite like the fury of social media…
Cymek said:
Greetings
G’day Cymek et al.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Blueberries are expensive now, $6.50 a punnet.
Before the dam panic they were like $3.5 or there abouts.
I wonder why the jump.
They are a cure for everything?
Sometimes they come with free hypodermic needles.
furious said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Blueberries are expensive now, $6.50 a punnet.
Before the dam panic they were like $3.5 or there abouts.
I wonder why the jump.
Seasonal?
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Is supporting “free speech” (whatever that means) something that needs to be called out then?
in fairness she probably doesn’t feel like she needs support. She’s rich as Croesus, she’s not running for office or anything, she doesn’t need to convince anyone.
Re: Rev
When you’re making transphobic comments, yes.
Re: DV
If we’re going to get technical, she’s damaging her “brand”, although the lines between brand and person are increasingly becoming blurred. I’d say most people following her on social media do so because of Harry Potter, and not her political views.
Lately the lines are even more blurred because people are being called out for remaining silent about racism. If you’re a well-known person, you’re somehow expected to make a public comment on the race riots in America. If you’ve ever worked with a person of colour, you’re expected to leap to their defence, join their cause, add your support to BLM.
Actress Alyssa Milano approaches this in an interesting way. On her Twitter bio, she says that her personal account contains political views. If you’re only there for her work, she advises to follow @AlyssaMilanoNews instead.
People are usually forgiving after a while. After people block JK Rowling, ban her, mock her, burn her books, they’ll come back. It’s not the first time she’s gotten backlash from social media because of something she’s said. She took an extended break from Twitter for about a year due to backlash. She’ll disappear for a while, come back with something to promote, and people will love her again.
Divine Angel said:
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Is supporting “free speech” (whatever that means) something that needs to be called out then?
in fairness she probably doesn’t feel like she needs support. She’s rich as Croesus, she’s not running for office or anything, she doesn’t need to convince anyone.
Re: Rev
When you’re making transphobic comments, yes.
Well, no. What should be criticised is the comments that are considered worthy of criticism, not “support for free speech”.
Rude. I was going to propose the word “mugwump” to mean a shitty period of time, but I see it’s already a word.
In my context, “I’ve had a mugwump of a morning”.
ABC News:
‘Prime Minister Scott Morrison demands an end to further Black Lives Matter protests, saying action planned for coming days is “completely unacceptable” and demonstrators at future events should be charged.
I can dig the coronavirus-transmission side of the argument, and Sooty undoubtedly has an earnest desire to see that respected.
I suspect that there’s also a possibly-unconscious resentment of the fact that, having promoted a set of rules which said what people can and can’t do in their personal lives, and governments having enjoyed that exciting new power, the population now insist on defying what government says they ought to do.
Forum looks like this for me:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘Prime Minister Scott Morrison demands an end to further Black Lives Matter protests, saying action planned for coming days is “completely unacceptable” and demonstrators at future events should be charged.
I can dig the coronavirus-transmission side of the argument, and Sooty undoubtedly has an earnest desire to see that respected.
I suspect that there’s also a possibly-unconscious resentment of the fact that, having promoted a set of rules which said what people can and can’t do in their personal lives, and governments having enjoyed that exciting new power, the population now insist on defying what government says they ought to do.
Are the promoters of these gatherings encouraging attendees to download the COVIDSafe App?
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘Prime Minister Scott Morrison demands an end to further Black Lives Matter protests, saying action planned for coming days is “completely unacceptable” and demonstrators at future events should be charged.
I can dig the coronavirus-transmission side of the argument, and Sooty undoubtedly has an earnest desire to see that respected.
I suspect that there’s also a possibly-unconscious resentment of the fact that, having promoted a set of rules which said what people can and can’t do in their personal lives, and governments having enjoyed that exciting new power, the population now insist on defying what government says they ought to do.
God told him so.
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘Prime Minister Scott Morrison demands an end to further Black Lives Matter protests, saying action planned for coming days is “completely unacceptable” and demonstrators at future events should be charged.
I can dig the coronavirus-transmission side of the argument, and Sooty undoubtedly has an earnest desire to see that respected.
I suspect that there’s also a possibly-unconscious resentment of the fact that, having promoted a set of rules which said what people can and can’t do in their personal lives, and governments having enjoyed that exciting new power, the population now insist on defying what government says they ought to do.
Australia actually has far less risk of coronavirus transmission via crowds protesting
Michael V said:
Forum looks like this for me:
Ubkess you change the view settings to basic, Yes.
Divine Angel said:
Rude. I was going to propose the word “mugwump” to mean a shitty period of time, but I see it’s already a word.In my context, “I’ve had a mugwump of a morning”.
LOL.
What brought on this mugwumperific misfortune?
unless?
furious said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘Prime Minister Scott Morrison demands an end to further Black Lives Matter protests, saying action planned for coming days is “completely unacceptable” and demonstrators at future events should be charged.
I can dig the coronavirus-transmission side of the argument, and Sooty undoubtedly has an earnest desire to see that respected.
I suspect that there’s also a possibly-unconscious resentment of the fact that, having promoted a set of rules which said what people can and can’t do in their personal lives, and governments having enjoyed that exciting new power, the population now insist on defying what government says they ought to do.
Are the promoters of these gatherings encouraging attendees to download the COVIDSafe App?
I don’t know.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
Forum looks like this for me:
Ubkess you change the view settings to basic, Yes.
How does one do that?
Cymek said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘Prime Minister Scott Morrison demands an end to further Black Lives Matter protests, saying action planned for coming days is “completely unacceptable” and demonstrators at future events should be charged.
I can dig the coronavirus-transmission side of the argument, and Sooty undoubtedly has an earnest desire to see that respected.
I suspect that there’s also a possibly-unconscious resentment of the fact that, having promoted a set of rules which said what people can and can’t do in their personal lives, and governments having enjoyed that exciting new power, the population now insist on defying what government says they ought to do.
Australia actually has far less risk of coronavirus transmission via crowds protesting
And they’re trying to keep it that way.
Most here had a nice laugh at the right wing idiots congregating in the USA during this period, rightly (sic) calling them morons for putting others in danger during this time. Just because the politics now suits your sensibilities the argument doesn’t change.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
Forum looks like this for me:
Ubkess you change the view settings to basic, Yes.
How does one do that?
Ctrl +
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
Forum looks like this for me:
Ubkess you change the view settings to basic, Yes.
How does one do that?
Go to your menu bar, under View, select basic page style.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
Forum looks like this for me:
Ubkess you change the view settings to basic, Yes.
How does one do that?
Straight after watching Inception.
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Rude. I was going to propose the word “mugwump” to mean a shitty period of time, but I see it’s already a word.In my context, “I’ve had a mugwump of a morning”.
LOL.
What brought on this mugwumperific misfortune?
Mini Me was being a PITA this morning, I’m a bit blocked as to the next bit of my novel, and I find out mugwump is already a word.
sibeen said:
Cymek said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘Prime Minister Scott Morrison demands an end to further Black Lives Matter protests, saying action planned for coming days is “completely unacceptable” and demonstrators at future events should be charged.
I can dig the coronavirus-transmission side of the argument, and Sooty undoubtedly has an earnest desire to see that respected.
I suspect that there’s also a possibly-unconscious resentment of the fact that, having promoted a set of rules which said what people can and can’t do in their personal lives, and governments having enjoyed that exciting new power, the population now insist on defying what government says they ought to do.
Australia actually has far less risk of coronavirus transmission via crowds protesting
And they’re trying to keep it that way.
Most here had a nice laugh at the right wing idiots congregating in the USA during this period, rightly (sic) calling them morons for putting others in danger during this time. Just because the politics now suits your sensibilities the argument doesn’t change.
Hmmmmm maybe a false equivalence argument there.
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:
Cymek said:Australia actually has far less risk of coronavirus transmission via crowds protesting
And they’re trying to keep it that way.
Most here had a nice laugh at the right wing idiots congregating in the USA during this period, rightly (sic) calling them morons for putting others in danger during this time. Just because the politics now suits your sensibilities the argument doesn’t change.
Hmmmmm maybe a false equivalence argument there.
How so?
Both will be putting others at danger.
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Rude. I was going to propose the word “mugwump” to mean a shitty period of time, but I see it’s already a word.In my context, “I’ve had a mugwump of a morning”.
LOL.
What brought on this mugwumperific misfortune?
Mini Me was being a PITA this morning, I’m a bit blocked as to the next bit of my novel, and I find out mugwump is already a word.
Ask the youngling to come up with a word to describe a sh!tty less than ideal period of time. Keep her occupied for a while. Probably wouldn’t hurt to ask her what she thinks should happen next in the story either. Kids have wonderful imaginations, apparently…
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:And they’re trying to keep it that way.
Most here had a nice laugh at the right wing idiots congregating in the USA during this period, rightly (sic) calling them morons for putting others in danger during this time. Just because the politics now suits your sensibilities the argument doesn’t change.
Hmmmmm maybe a false equivalence argument there.
How so?
Both will be putting others at danger.
USA was in the middle of a lot of deaths. They were protesting about lockdown. Their actions were for selfish reasons. Aus protests are totally the opposite. We are not in the middle of a period of hundreds of deaths a day.
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:Hmmmmm maybe a false equivalence argument there.
How so?
Both will be putting others at danger.
USA was in the middle of a lot of deaths. They were protesting about lockdown. Their actions were for selfish reasons. Aus protests are totally the opposite. We are not in the middle of a period of hundreds of deaths a day.
It doesn’t matter what they were protesting about, which is my point. We’ve got close to containing the virus in this country. Mass gatherings of people may completely fuck that up.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/10/the-coalition-dishes-out-jobs-for-the-boys-while-women-carry-coronavirus-economic-burden
Tau.Neutrino said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:Ubkess you change the view settings to basic, Yes.
How does one do that?
Straight after watching Inception.
sibeen said:
Cymek said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘Prime Minister Scott Morrison demands an end to further Black Lives Matter protests, saying action planned for coming days is “completely unacceptable” and demonstrators at future events should be charged.
I can dig the coronavirus-transmission side of the argument, and Sooty undoubtedly has an earnest desire to see that respected.
I suspect that there’s also a possibly-unconscious resentment of the fact that, having promoted a set of rules which said what people can and can’t do in their personal lives, and governments having enjoyed that exciting new power, the population now insist on defying what government says they ought to do.
Australia actually has far less risk of coronavirus transmission via crowds protesting
And they’re trying to keep it that way.
Most here had a nice laugh at the right wing idiots congregating in the USA during this period, rightly (sic) calling them morons for putting others in danger during this time. Just because the politics now suits your sensibilities the argument doesn’t change.
OTOH, with the differing risk of virus spread, and differing degree of relaxation of the lock-down laws, and differing degree of significance of the thing being protested about, the argument does change.
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:How so?
Both will be putting others at danger.
USA was in the middle of a lot of deaths. They were protesting about lockdown. Their actions were for selfish reasons. Aus protests are totally the opposite. We are not in the middle of a period of hundreds of deaths a day.
It doesn’t matter what they were protesting about, which is my point. We’ve got close to containing the virus in this country. Mass gatherings of people may completely fuck that up.
You should have stuck to just that bit without the other bit of commentary.
:-)
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:USA was in the middle of a lot of deaths. They were protesting about lockdown. Their actions were for selfish reasons. Aus protests are totally the opposite. We are not in the middle of a period of hundreds of deaths a day.
It doesn’t matter what they were protesting about, which is my point. We’ve got close to containing the virus in this country. Mass gatherings of people may completely fuck that up.
You should have stuck to just that bit without the other bit of commentary.
:-)
Nah, fuck that.
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:
Cymek said:Australia actually has far less risk of coronavirus transmission via crowds protesting
And they’re trying to keep it that way.
Most here had a nice laugh at the right wing idiots congregating in the USA during this period, rightly (sic) calling them morons for putting others in danger during this time. Just because the politics now suits your sensibilities the argument doesn’t change.
OTOH, with the differing risk of virus spread, and differing degree of relaxation of the lock-down laws, and differing degree of significance of the thing being protested about, the argument does change.
People dying is possibly the only way changes can occur it’s not like its a new problem
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/10/guatemalan-maya-spiritual-guide-tortured-burned-alive
Tesla has passed $1000 USD a share. Sibeen must be as rich as a weather-girl now.
Bogsnorkler said:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/10/guatemalan-maya-spiritual-guide-tortured-burned-alive
His certainly spiritual now.
Cymek said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:And they’re trying to keep it that way.
Most here had a nice laugh at the right wing idiots congregating in the USA during this period, rightly (sic) calling them morons for putting others in danger during this time. Just because the politics now suits your sensibilities the argument doesn’t change.
OTOH, with the differing risk of virus spread, and differing degree of relaxation of the lock-down laws, and differing degree of significance of the thing being protested about, the argument does change.
People dying is possibly the only way changes can occur it’s not like its a new problem
The fact it is an old problem does not mean that people suffering unnecessary deaths is the only way to change.
On this day 52 years ago the Boris Family made landfall in Fremantle. We had sailed on the good ship Castel Felice, a tub by anyone’s standard. We had a day in WA. We thought Mosman Park and other suburbs along the train line were the shanty town because of the outside dunnies and rusty tin rooves. Mum picked a nice Banksia flower in Kings Park.
I got an urge to buy something.

Peak Warming Man said:
I got an urge to buy something.
Bunnings are selling an item that usually costs as much as $200 for just $3.75
dv said:
a fig tree? Do people realize how invasive and big these things can grow? I have one.
furious said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I got an urge to buy something.
Bunnings are selling an item that usually costs as much as $200 for just $3.75
I wonder how much Bunnings paid News for that “news story”.
The Rev Dodgson said:
furious said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I got an urge to buy something.
Bunnings are selling an item that usually costs as much as $200 for just $3.75
I wonder how much Bunnings paid News for that “news story”.
Free sausage ?
The Rev Dodgson said:
furious said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I got an urge to buy something.
Bunnings are selling an item that usually costs as much as $200 for just $3.75
I wonder how much Bunnings paid News for that “news story”.
need to check the page, online and paper version, for the number of Bunnings ads.
annnnnnnnnnnnnd we’re off…
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-11/victorian-black-lives-matter-protester-diagnosed-coronavirus/12343130
Bogsnorkler said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
furious said:Bunnings are selling an item that usually costs as much as $200 for just $3.75
I wonder how much Bunnings paid News for that “news story”.
need to check the page, online and paper version, for the number of Bunnings ads.
in small print next to the article it says “advertisement” and in the “trending” section there is a link to itself and under that it says “advertisement”. Although, there might be other advertisements there that have been blocked and I can’t see them…
I was thinking of putting all my music files on One Drive but then I thought that One Drive is a subset of Office for which you have to subscribe yearly, if you cancel your Office subscription you could lose access to One Drive and anyway Uploading data costs money as does downloading data so whats the point when you can safely put it on a stick and tie it in a corner of your hankie.
furious said:
Bogsnorkler said:
The Rev Dodgson said:I wonder how much Bunnings paid News for that “news story”.
need to check the page, online and paper version, for the number of Bunnings ads.
in small print next to the article it says “advertisement” and in the “trending” section there is a link to itself and under that it says “advertisement”. Although, there might be other advertisements there that have been blocked and I can’t see them…
Oh, that’s alright then …
Peak Warming Man said:
I was thinking of putting all my music files on One Drive but then I thought that One Drive is a subset of Office for which you have to subscribe yearly, if you cancel your Office subscription you could lose access to One Drive and anyway Uploading data costs money as does downloading data so whats the point when you can safely put it on a stick and tie it in a corner of your hankie.
Why not do both?
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I was thinking of putting all my music files on One Drive but then I thought that One Drive is a subset of Office for which you have to subscribe yearly, if you cancel your Office subscription you could lose access to One Drive and anyway Uploading data costs money as does downloading data so whats the point when you can safely put it on a stick and tie it in a corner of your hankie.
Why not do both?
You can also have all your music etched into PVC discs…
Bogsnorkler said:
annnnnnnnnnnnnd we’re off…https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-11/victorian-black-lives-matter-protester-diagnosed-coronavirus/12343130
Bugger.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I was thinking of putting all my music files on One Drive but then I thought that One Drive is a subset of Office for which you have to subscribe yearly, if you cancel your Office subscription you could lose access to One Drive and anyway Uploading data costs money as does downloading data so whats the point when you can safely put it on a stick and tie it in a corner of your hankie.
Why not do both?
There is a free OneDrive of course, but what happens to your big paid for OneDrive if you stop paying, I don’t know.
I believe Gargoyle (or whatever their name is) have a free equivalent as well (but also with limited capacity).
furious said:
Bogsnorkler said:
The Rev Dodgson said:I wonder how much Bunnings paid News for that “news story”.
need to check the page, online and paper version, for the number of Bunnings ads.
in small print next to the article it says “advertisement” and in the “trending” section there is a link to itself and under that it says “advertisement”. Although, there might be other advertisements there that have been blocked and I can’t see them…
I don’t see any of that.
Tamb said:
dv said:
Neither doctors or Romans spoke English.
Romans spoke Greek, so a lot of what doctors say would be somewhat comprehensible to them.
furious said:
Bogsnorkler said:
The Rev Dodgson said:I wonder how much Bunnings paid News for that “news story”.
need to check the page, online and paper version, for the number of Bunnings ads.
in small print next to the article it says “advertisement” and in the “trending” section there is a link to itself and under that it says “advertisement”. Although, there might be other advertisements there that have been blocked and I can’t see them…
Nothing like those on my version of the page.
captain_spalding said:
Tamb said:
dv said:
Neither doctors or Romans spoke English.Romans spoke Greek, so a lot of what doctors say would be somewhat comprehensible to them.
True, although the accent might be a problem.
Tamb said:
dv said:
Neither doctors or Romans spoke English.
So … you’re saying that you get the joke
Bogsnorkler said:
furious said:
Bogsnorkler said:need to check the page, online and paper version, for the number of Bunnings ads.
in small print next to the article it says “advertisement” and in the “trending” section there is a link to itself and under that it says “advertisement”. Although, there might be other advertisements there that have been blocked and I can’t see them…
I don’t see any of that.
I think it must be very small print.
Bogsnorkler said:
furious said:
Bogsnorkler said:need to check the page, online and paper version, for the number of Bunnings ads.
in small print next to the article it says “advertisement” and in the “trending” section there is a link to itself and under that it says “advertisement”. Although, there might be other advertisements there that have been blocked and I can’t see them…
I don’t see any of that.
You use opera, yes? That probably blocks it for you…
captain_spalding said:
Tamb said:
dv said:
Neither doctors or Romans spoke English.Romans spoke Greek, so a lot of what doctors say would be somewhat comprehensible to them.
Which Romans spoke Greek?
captain_spalding said:
Tamb said:
dv said:
Neither doctors or Romans spoke English.Romans spoke Greek, so a lot of what doctors say would be somewhat comprehensible to them.
Oh, it’s all Greek to me.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bogsnorkler said:
furious said:in small print next to the article it says “advertisement” and in the “trending” section there is a link to itself and under that it says “advertisement”. Although, there might be other advertisements there that have been blocked and I can’t see them…
I don’t see any of that.
I think it must be very small print.
In IE it probably takes a couple of hours for the adverts to load.
Has anyone else noticed this on Moccona lids?
Michael V said:
furious said:
Bogsnorkler said:need to check the page, online and paper version, for the number of Bunnings ads.
in small print next to the article it says “advertisement” and in the “trending” section there is a link to itself and under that it says “advertisement”. Although, there might be other advertisements there that have been blocked and I can’t see them…
Nothing like those on my version of the page.
I’m using some version of chrome on a work computer. We also have IE, for some reason, and that shows it too…
Witty Rejoinder said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bogsnorkler said:I don’t see any of that.
I think it must be very small print.
In IE it probably takes a couple of hours for the adverts to load.
I think you are confusing me with PWM.
I use that modern and up-to-date Edge browser these days.
Witty Rejoinder said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bogsnorkler said:I don’t see any of that.
I think it must be very small print.
In IE it probably takes a couple of hours for the adverts to load.
Funny you should say that, when I opened IE to check, it froze but it did load enough to show the word advertisement under the date/time for the article…
furious said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
The Rev Dodgson said:I think it must be very small print.
In IE it probably takes a couple of hours for the adverts to load.
Funny you should say that, when I opened IE to check, it froze but it did load enough to show the word advertisement under the date/time for the article…
On Edge it says advertisement under the side-bar advertisements.
On Chrome it didn’t say advertisement at all (as far as I can see).
Tamb said:
Has anyone else noticed this on Moccona lids?
Been around for ages.
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:
Has anyone else noticed this on Moccona lids?
Been around for ages.
The Rev Dodgson said:
furious said:
Witty Rejoinder said:In IE it probably takes a couple of hours for the adverts to load.
Funny you should say that, when I opened IE to check, it froze but it did load enough to show the word advertisement under the date/time for the article…
On Edge it says advertisement under the side-bar advertisements.
On Chrome it didn’t say advertisement at all (as far as I can see).
Well, it is fair to say that it is bordering on being an advertisement and I only originally linked it because of someone expressing the desire to buy something and an apparent fondness for bunnings in these parts…
furious said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
furious said:Funny you should say that, when I opened IE to check, it froze but it did load enough to show the word advertisement under the date/time for the article…
On Edge it says advertisement under the side-bar advertisements.
On Chrome it didn’t say advertisement at all (as far as I can see).
Well, it is fair to say that it is bordering on being an advertisement and I only originally linked it because of someone expressing the desire to buy something and an apparent fondness for bunnings in these parts…
furious said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
furious said:Funny you should say that, when I opened IE to check, it froze but it did load enough to show the word advertisement under the date/time for the article…
On Edge it says advertisement under the side-bar advertisements.
On Chrome it didn’t say advertisement at all (as far as I can see).
Well, it is fair to say that it is bordering on being an advertisement and I only originally linked it because of someone expressing the desire to buy something and an apparent fondness for bunnings in these parts…
It’s every man’s right to shoot the messenger if he wants to.
furious said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
furious said:Funny you should say that, when I opened IE to check, it froze but it did load enough to show the word advertisement under the date/time for the article…
On Edge it says advertisement under the side-bar advertisements.
On Chrome it didn’t say advertisement at all (as far as I can see).
Well, it is fair to say that it is bordering on being an advertisement and I only originally linked it because of someone expressing the desire to buy something and an apparent fondness for bunnings in these parts…
Figs can be grown in pots for quite a while as the pot restricts their growth. However, if you keep potting them up as per instructions on the above page, It won’t be long before you’ll need a Backhoe to fill it.
Puts on protective clothing:
furious said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I got an urge to buy something.
Bunnings are selling an item that usually costs as much as $200 for just $3.75
roughbarked said:
furious said:
The Rev Dodgson said:On Edge it says advertisement under the side-bar advertisements.
On Chrome it didn’t say advertisement at all (as far as I can see).
Well, it is fair to say that it is bordering on being an advertisement and I only originally linked it because of someone expressing the desire to buy something and an apparent fondness for bunnings in these parts…
Figs can be grown in pots for quite a while as the pot restricts their growth. However, if you keep potting them up as per instructions on the above page, It won’t be long before you’ll need a Backhoe to fill it.
Figs. Natural enemy to the drainage system.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Puts on protective clothing:furious said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I got an urge to buy something.
Bunnings are selling an item that usually costs as much as $200 for just $3.75
In Edge, Chrome and Firefox, there is nothing to indicate that this article is an advertisement, or even a “sponsored news” piece.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Puts on protective clothing:furious said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I got an urge to buy something.
Bunnings are selling an item that usually costs as much as $200 for just $3.75
Thanks
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Puts on protective clothing:furious said:
Bunnings are selling an item that usually costs as much as $200 for just $3.75
In Edge, Chrome and Firefox, there is nothing to indicate that this article is an advertisement, or even a “sponsored news” piece.
Then my browser is doing something weird…
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning punters and correctors, windless, cool, some sun in the Pearl of the South Specific.
Yes, lovely to sit in the sun on a Winter morning, isn’t it.
:)
furious said:
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Puts on protective clothing:In Edge, Chrome and Firefox, there is nothing to indicate that this article is an advertisement, or even a “sponsored news” piece.
Then my browser is doing something weird…
Can you snap it?
And as a Dementor Pug in his late middleage, finding the most in the way place to sit is paramount. And then he insists this is what a Supervisor does.
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning punters and correctors, windless, cool, some sun in the Pearl of the South Specific.
Yes, lovely to sit in the sun on a Winter morning, isn’t it.
:)
Do my eyes deceive me or has The Pug gained some kgs.
It was supposed to be a celebratory bodysurf, a chance to train together again the night before the official start of the summer season. But a month ago in The Hague, five gregarious, athletic young surfers lost their lives in freak sea conditions, on their first return to the water since coronavirus restrictions had forced them apart.
Joost, Sander, Pim, Max and Mathijs fell victim to a thick wall of metres-high foam and rough seas. The bodies of four were recovered within 24 hours.
Then last week I watched as firefighters extended a ladder to recover 23-year-old Matthijs’s body from boulders beneath the lighthouse at the end of Scheveningen pier.
———————————
Foam I guess, similar to falling in to an aerated water treatment pond.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52920048
Tamb said:
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning punters and correctors, windless, cool, some sun in the Pearl of the South Specific.
Yes, lovely to sit in the sun on a Winter morning, isn’t it.
:)
Do my eyes deceive me or has The Pug gained some kgs.
It’s the Pug Slouch. Standing in show stance, he’s pretty good, still got a waist. But when you want to warm your belly in the sun you have to slouch. And if anyone can slouch, it’s a Pug.
Peak Warming Man said:
It was supposed to be a celebratory bodysurf, a chance to train together again the night before the official start of the summer season. But a month ago in The Hague, five gregarious, athletic young surfers lost their lives in freak sea conditions, on their first return to the water since coronavirus restrictions had forced them apart.
Joost, Sander, Pim, Max and Mathijs fell victim to a thick wall of metres-high foam and rough seas. The bodies of four were recovered within 24 hours.
Then last week I watched as firefighters extended a ladder to recover 23-year-old Matthijs’s body from boulders beneath the lighthouse at the end of Scheveningen pier.
———————————Foam I guess, similar to falling in to an aerated water treatment pond.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52920048
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning punters and correctors, windless, cool, some sun in the Pearl of the South Specific.
Yes, lovely to sit in the sun on a Winter morning, isn’t it.
:)
FMD can’t see it running at Dapto any time soon.
Every now and again I see an invention so simple and useful that I wish I’d thought of it myself.
In this case, an air conditioning system for hard hats, cools the air space under the hard hat. From 2008.
I can see umpteen uses for that, from work in the desert to deep mining to all physically demanding work.
Witty Rejoinder said:
captain_spalding said:
Tamb said:Neither doctors or Romans spoke English.
Romans spoke Greek, so a lot of what doctors say would be somewhat comprehensible to them.
Which Romans spoke Greek?
The average blue-collar Roman.
Greek was the everyday language of ancient Rome.
Latin was the language of government, law, and officialdom. A lot of Romans could muster some Latin if need be, but Greek was what they shouted to their mates in the street.
dv said:
furious said:
dv said:In Edge, Chrome and Firefox, there is nothing to indicate that this article is an advertisement, or even a “sponsored news” piece.
Then my browser is doing something weird…
Can you snap it?
It could just be that the word “advertisement” appears but the advertisement it refers to is not displayed due to ad blocking by my organisation…
furious said:
dv said:
furious said:Then my browser is doing something weird…
Can you snap it?
It could just be that the word “advertisement” appears but the advertisement it refers to is not displayed due to ad blocking by my organisation…
That’s what I think
Tamb said:
Has anyone else noticed this on Moccona lids?
Yes. On the latest breed of lids.
captain_spalding said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
captain_spalding said:Romans spoke Greek, so a lot of what doctors say would be somewhat comprehensible to them.
Which Romans spoke Greek?
The average blue-collar Roman.
Greek was the everyday language of ancient Rome.
Latin was the language of government, law, and officialdom. A lot of Romans could muster some Latin if need be, but Greek was what they shouted to their mates in the street.
Well there you go.
buffy said:
Tamb said:
buffy said:
Yes, lovely to sit in the sun on a Winter morning, isn’t it.
:)
Do my eyes deceive me or has The Pug gained some kgs.
It’s the Pug Slouch. Standing in show stance, he’s pretty good, still got a waist. But when you want to warm your belly in the sun you have to slouch. And if anyone can slouch, it’s a Pug.
Tamb said:
furious said:
The Rev Dodgson said:On Edge it says advertisement under the side-bar advertisements.
On Chrome it didn’t say advertisement at all (as far as I can see).
Well, it is fair to say that it is bordering on being an advertisement and I only originally linked it because of someone expressing the desire to buy something and an apparent fondness for bunnings in these parts…
Would someone please post the link again I seem to have lost it.
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/home/bunnings-launches-range-of-house-plants-for-under-5/news-story/e98febf3c92228b41e8003783ed7f661
Michael V said:
Tamb said:
furious said:Well, it is fair to say that it is bordering on being an advertisement and I only originally linked it because of someone expressing the desire to buy something and an apparent fondness for bunnings in these parts…
Would someone please post the link again I seem to have lost it.https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/home/bunnings-launches-range-of-house-plants-for-under-5/news-story/e98febf3c92228b41e8003783ed7f661
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning punters and correctors, windless, cool, some sun in the Pearl of the South Specific.
Yes, lovely to sit in the sun on a Winter morning, isn’t it.
:)
FMD can’t see it running at Dapto any time soon.
LOL
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Which Romans spoke Greek?
The average blue-collar Roman.
Greek was the everyday language of ancient Rome.
Latin was the language of government, law, and officialdom. A lot of Romans could muster some Latin if need be, but Greek was what they shouted to their mates in the street.
Well there you go.
So you see, a Roman listening to a modern English speaking doctor would only be able to understand certain words and phrases. Prostalgia, contusus, otitis etc. All of the English words would just be “blah blah blah” because Romans didn’t speak English. That’s … that’s literally the joke.
captain_spalding said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
captain_spalding said:Romans spoke Greek, so a lot of what doctors say would be somewhat comprehensible to them.
Which Romans spoke Greek?
The average blue-collar Roman.
Greek was the everyday language of ancient Rome.
Latin was the language of government, law, and officialdom. A lot of Romans could muster some Latin if need be, but Greek was what they shouted to their mates in the street.
Witty Rejoinder said:
captain_spalding said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Which Romans spoke Greek?
The average blue-collar Roman.
Greek was the everyday language of ancient Rome.
Latin was the language of government, law, and officialdom. A lot of Romans could muster some Latin if need be, but Greek was what they shouted to their mates in the street.
Ref?
It certainly was in the latter part of the Roman Empire. :)
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
Yes, lovely to sit in the sun on a Winter morning, isn’t it.
:)
FMD can’t see it running at Dapto any time soon.
LOL
Run, maybe.
Win, no.
sibeen said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
captain_spalding said:The average blue-collar Roman.
Greek was the everyday language of ancient Rome.
Latin was the language of government, law, and officialdom. A lot of Romans could muster some Latin if need be, but Greek was what they shouted to their mates in the street.
Ref?
It certainly was in the latter part of the Roman Empire. :)
A bit like Norman French spoken by the conquerors V Anglo-Saxon spoken by the natives.
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:The average blue-collar Roman.
Greek was the everyday language of ancient Rome.
Latin was the language of government, law, and officialdom. A lot of Romans could muster some Latin if need be, but Greek was what they shouted to their mates in the street.
Well there you go.
So you see, a Roman listening to a modern English speaking doctor would only be able to understand certain words and phrases. Prostalgia, contusus, otitis etc. All of the English words would just be “blah blah blah” because Romans didn’t speak English. That’s … that’s literally the joke.
Yeah, i got that.
I was just showing off about how erudite i am.
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:FMD can’t see it running at Dapto any time soon.
LOL
Run, maybe.
Win, no.
For Tamb…here is one I prepared earlier. This Pug is Trixie. She was the same age as me in that photo.
Tamb said:
sibeen said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Ref?
It certainly was in the latter part of the Roman Empire. :)
A bit like Norman French spoken by the conquerors V Anglo-Saxon spoken by the natives.
sibeen’s joke is that after “The Fall”, “Rome” set up in Constantinople, where indeed the common language was Greek.
There was never a time when actual Roman Romans mostly used Greek in their daily lives, though some Roman officials and academics used it when it was fashionable.
Tamb said:
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:LOL
Run, maybe.
Win, no.
Even run is questionable.
Oh, you wouldn’t believe how fast he can run when he wants to. Little black bullet. For about 20-30m when the adrenaline is up.
sibeen said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
captain_spalding said:The average blue-collar Roman.
Greek was the everyday language of ancient Rome.
Latin was the language of government, law, and officialdom. A lot of Romans could muster some Latin if need be, but Greek was what they shouted to their mates in the street.
Ref?
It certainly was in the latter part of the Roman Empire. :)
In the Hellenistic part of the Roman empire Greek was certainly the language of the elites but on the Italian peninsula they did and continue to speak languages derived from Latin. In outlying provinces like North Africa, France, Britain and the near East the common folk spoke local languages.
Stone Age bird figurine uncovered in China could be a “missing link” in our understanding of prehistoric art, according to research published Wednesday.
Dating back almost 13,500 years, the sculpture is now the oldest known example of three-dimensional art in East Asia, preceding other discoveries in the region by nearly 8,500 years.
https://edition.cnn.com/style/article/ancient-bird-lingjing-scn/index.html
buffy said:
For Tamb…here is one I prepared earlier. This Pug is Trixie. She was the same age as me in that photo.
dv said:
Tamb said:
sibeen said:It certainly was in the latter part of the Roman Empire. :)
A bit like Norman French spoken by the conquerors V Anglo-Saxon spoken by the natives.
sibeen’s joke is that after “The Fall”, “Rome” set up in Constantinople, where indeed the common language was Greek.
There was never a time when actual Roman Romans mostly used Greek in their daily lives, though some Roman officials and academics used it when it was fashionable.
Michael V said:
furious said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘Prime Minister Scott Morrison demands an end to further Black Lives Matter protests, saying action planned for coming days is “completely unacceptable” and demonstrators at future events should be charged.
I can dig the coronavirus-transmission side of the argument, and Sooty undoubtedly has an earnest desire to see that respected.
I suspect that there’s also a possibly-unconscious resentment of the fact that, having promoted a set of rules which said what people can and can’t do in their personal lives, and governments having enjoyed that exciting new power, the population now insist on defying what government says they ought to do.
Are the promoters of these gatherings encouraging attendees to download the COVIDSafe App?
I don’t know.
it doesn’t prevent spread
Tamb said:
dv said:
Tamb said:A bit like Norman French spoken by the conquerors V Anglo-Saxon spoken by the natives.
sibeen’s joke is that after “The Fall”, “Rome” set up in Constantinople, where indeed the common language was Greek.
There was never a time when actual Roman Romans mostly used Greek in their daily lives, though some Roman officials and academics used it when it was fashionable.
As did the Brits in later times.
Boris (not our Boris ) likes to drop Ancient Greek bon mots.
dv said:
Stone Age bird figurine uncovered in China could be a “missing link” in our understanding of prehistoric art, according to research published Wednesday.
Dating back almost 13,500 years, the sculpture is now the oldest known example of three-dimensional art in East Asia, preceding other discoveries in the region by nearly 8,500 years.
https://edition.cnn.com/style/article/ancient-bird-lingjing-scn/index.html
Thanks.
Michael V said:
dv said:
Stone Age bird figurine uncovered in China could be a “missing link” in our understanding of prehistoric art, according to research published Wednesday.
Dating back almost 13,500 years, the sculpture is now the oldest known example of three-dimensional art in East Asia, preceding other discoveries in the region by nearly 8,500 years.
https://edition.cnn.com/style/article/ancient-bird-lingjing-scn/index.html
Thanks.
Probably just door handles or some such.
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:
dv said:
Stone Age bird figurine uncovered in China could be a “missing link” in our understanding of prehistoric art, according to research published Wednesday.
Dating back almost 13,500 years, the sculpture is now the oldest known example of three-dimensional art in East Asia, preceding other discoveries in the region by nearly 8,500 years.
https://edition.cnn.com/style/article/ancient-bird-lingjing-scn/index.html
Thanks.
Probably just door handles or some such.
Napkin holders
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:Thanks.
Probably just door handles or some such.
Napkin holders
things to be blown up In The Name Of Economic Growth
Tamb said:
buffy said:
For Tamb…here is one I prepared earlier. This Pug is Trixie. She was the same age as me in that photo.
Thanks.
Here’s one I mind. His name is Bentley.![]()
Bentley appears to be a well bred fellow.
Off to do more splitting and stacking of wood now it is all in the backyard and ready to go.
buffy said:
Tamb said:
buffy said:
For Tamb…here is one I prepared earlier. This Pug is Trixie. She was the same age as me in that photo.
Thanks.
Here’s one I mind. His name is Bentley.![]()
Bentley appears to be a well bred fellow.
Off to do more splitting and stacking of wood now it is all in the backyard and ready to go.
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:dv said:
Stone Age bird figurine uncovered in China could be a “missing link” in our understanding of prehistoric art, according to research published Wednesday.
Dating back almost 13,500 years, the sculpture is now the oldest known example of three-dimensional art in East Asia, preceding other discoveries in the region by nearly 8,500 years.
https://edition.cnn.com/style/article/ancient-bird-lingjing-scn/index.html
Thanks.
Probably just door handles or some such.
Napkin holders
things to be blown up In The Name Of Economic Growth
Although really, if they had said “walking stick handles” it would have been completely plausible.
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘Prime Minister Scott Morrison demands an end to further Black Lives Matter protests, saying action planned for coming days is “completely unacceptable” and demonstrators at future events should be charged.
I can dig the coronavirus-transmission side of the argument, and Sooty undoubtedly has an earnest desire to see that respected.
I suspect that there’s also a possibly-unconscious resentment of the fact that, having promoted a set of rules which said what people can and can’t do in their personal lives, and governments having enjoyed that exciting new power, the population now insist on defying what government says they ought to do.
truth is Sco is very uncomfortable about talking about Aborigines and he wishes they would just go away. Especially from land with economic potential.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Tamb said:
dv said:sibeen’s joke is that after “The Fall”, “Rome” set up in Constantinople, where indeed the common language was Greek.
There was never a time when actual Roman Romans mostly used Greek in their daily lives, though some Roman officials and academics used it when it was fashionable.
As did the Brits in later times.Boris (not our Boris ) likes to drop Ancient Greek bon mots.
celebrating his Byzantian ancestors
sarahs mum said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘Prime Minister Scott Morrison demands an end to further Black Lives Matter protests, saying action planned for coming days is “completely unacceptable” and demonstrators at future events should be charged.
I can dig the coronavirus-transmission side of the argument, and Sooty undoubtedly has an earnest desire to see that respected.
I suspect that there’s also a possibly-unconscious resentment of the fact that, having promoted a set of rules which said what people can and can’t do in their personal lives, and governments having enjoyed that exciting new power, the population now insist on defying what government says they ought to do.
truth is Sco is very uncomfortable about talking about Aborigines and he wishes they would just go away. Especially from land with economic potential.
Aboriginals can always sell the land if that is their wish
We were discussing whether there are any similar demo-geographic cases to the Syd-Mel line that have implemented high speed rail.
Probably one that is close is the Moroccan Al-Boraq line. Currently only runs from Tangier to Casablanca but the final stage will expand to Agadir. It’s approximately 800 km covering a population of 13 million.
In describing modern efforts to tackle the hegemony Western institutions have built on the back of racism, scholar Walter Mignolo has called for “epistemic delinking,” which turns our attention to how knowledge is generated. This is not just an academic struggle, but one deeply linked to public space as well. Museums, street names, parks and yes, even statues, are equally valid sites of contestation.
Statues are rarely about preserving history, and more often about memorializing individuals. Destroying Colston’s was not criminal; erecting it in 1895, more than 60 years after the British Emancipation Act, was.
In one day, a peaceful, multi-racial protest achieved what a two-year-long equivocating council campaign could not. The image of Black men kneeling on the neck of a slave trader for just over eight minutes was a profoundly moving one that echoed Olympian Jesse Owens’s defiant fist; Nelson Mandela’s triumphant release from prison; and Colin Kaepernick taking a knee.
In two days, the British public have received more education about slavery than the entirety of their secondary school curriculum. The ripples of the statue being tossed into the Bristol canal have political consequences too. Sadiq Khan, the Mayor of London, recently announced a review into all of the capital’s landmarks with links to slavery.
from..
https://hyperallergic.com/570444/toppled-statue-in-bristol-limited-understanding-of-decolonizing/
Cymek said:
sarahs mum said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘Prime Minister Scott Morrison demands an end to further Black Lives Matter protests, saying action planned for coming days is “completely unacceptable” and demonstrators at future events should be charged.
I can dig the coronavirus-transmission side of the argument, and Sooty undoubtedly has an earnest desire to see that respected.
I suspect that there’s also a possibly-unconscious resentment of the fact that, having promoted a set of rules which said what people can and can’t do in their personal lives, and governments having enjoyed that exciting new power, the population now insist on defying what government says they ought to do.
truth is Sco is very uncomfortable about talking about Aborigines and he wishes they would just go away. Especially from land with economic potential.
Aboriginals can always sell the land if that is their wish
They can shut up and be happy with an INdue card.
sarahs mum said:
Cymek said:
sarahs mum said:truth is Sco is very uncomfortable about talking about Aborigines and he wishes they would just go away. Especially from land with economic potential.
Aboriginals can always sell the land if that is their wish
They can shut up and be happy with an INdue card.
Autonomy within reality and control of their destiny is what is needed and a blending of cultures, everyone still has live, work and play in the modern world regardless of culture otherwise you are always on the fringe and disadvantaged
dv said:
We were discussing whether there are any similar demo-geographic cases to the Syd-Mel line that have implemented high speed rail.Probably one that is close is the Moroccan Al-Boraq line. Currently only runs from Tangier to Casablanca but the final stage will expand to Agadir. It’s approximately 800 km covering a population of 13 million.
High-speed rail is the current equivalent of the Springfield Monorail from The Simpson.
We don’t really need trains that run at 300kmh.
We need safe, AFFORDABLE, comfortable trains that run reasonably fast, and which can more or less adhere to a schedule.
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
We were discussing whether there are any similar demo-geographic cases to the Syd-Mel line that have implemented high speed rail.Probably one that is close is the Moroccan Al-Boraq line. Currently only runs from Tangier to Casablanca but the final stage will expand to Agadir. It’s approximately 800 km covering a population of 13 million.
High-speed rail is the current equivalent of the Springfield Monorail from The Simpson.
We don’t really need trains that run at 300kmh.
We need safe, AFFORDABLE, comfortable trains that run reasonably fast, and which can more or less adhere to a schedule.
Affordable to buy or use ?
Transperth trains are good, I’ve never had a problem with them and can only think of handful of occasions I was stuck somewhere and they did the best to fix that anyway
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
We were discussing whether there are any similar demo-geographic cases to the Syd-Mel line that have implemented high speed rail.Probably one that is close is the Moroccan Al-Boraq line. Currently only runs from Tangier to Casablanca but the final stage will expand to Agadir. It’s approximately 800 km covering a population of 13 million.
High-speed rail is the current equivalent of the Springfield Monorail from The Simpson.
We don’t really need trains that run at 300kmh.
We need safe, AFFORDABLE, comfortable trains that run reasonably fast, and which can more or less adhere to a schedule.
High speed rail replaces (or rather seeks to replace) air travel, not conventional rail, so that’s not a useful comparison.
Affordable to buy or use?
Both.
As well as affordable to maintain – both the trains themselves, and the railways that they run on.
The faster that rains run, the more ‘perfectly’ the track has to be engineered and maintained. That can be VERY expensive.
dv said:
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
We were discussing whether there are any similar demo-geographic cases to the Syd-Mel line that have implemented high speed rail.Probably one that is close is the Moroccan Al-Boraq line. Currently only runs from Tangier to Casablanca but the final stage will expand to Agadir. It’s approximately 800 km covering a population of 13 million.
High-speed rail is the current equivalent of the Springfield Monorail from The Simpson.
We don’t really need trains that run at 300kmh.
We need safe, AFFORDABLE, comfortable trains that run reasonably fast, and which can more or less adhere to a schedule.
High speed rail replaces (or rather seeks to replace) air travel, not conventional rail, so that’s not a useful comparison.
+1
If we want to replace modes of transport with high GHG emissions with something with much lower emissions, wherever that is practicable, then we need high speed rail between Australia’s East Coast cities.
dv said:
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
We were discussing whether there are any similar demo-geographic cases to the Syd-Mel line that have implemented high speed rail.Probably one that is close is the Moroccan Al-Boraq line. Currently only runs from Tangier to Casablanca but the final stage will expand to Agadir. It’s approximately 800 km covering a population of 13 million.
High-speed rail is the current equivalent of the Springfield Monorail from The Simpson.
We don’t really need trains that run at 300kmh.
We need safe, AFFORDABLE, comfortable trains that run reasonably fast, and which can more or less adhere to a schedule.
High speed rail replaces (or rather seeks to replace) air travel, not conventional rail, so that’s not a useful comparison.
If rail can be made reasonably fast (let’s say 150 kmh), and fares reflect that difference between air and rail travel, then it would make travel much more affordable for a wider range of people. There’s bound to be some willingness to trade some time for saving some money.
As well, trains rarely crash into the ground at hundreds of kilometres an hour from a great height. They have the advantage that, if something goes wrong withth operation of the train, they just stop. They don’t have to look for a suitable place to crash. That’s going to appeal to some of the market.
Bacon and tomato and egg sandwich, mug of tea (black and one)
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
We were discussing whether there are any similar demo-geographic cases to the Syd-Mel line that have implemented high speed rail.Probably one that is close is the Moroccan Al-Boraq line. Currently only runs from Tangier to Casablanca but the final stage will expand to Agadir. It’s approximately 800 km covering a population of 13 million.
High-speed rail is the current equivalent of the Springfield Monorail from The Simpson.
We don’t really need trains that run at 300kmh.
We need safe, AFFORDABLE, comfortable trains that run reasonably fast, and which can more or less adhere to a schedule.
Slower speeds are not necessarily more affordable. For a journey twice as long you need twice as many crew or they need to work longer hours, which you have to pay.
If you make the journey 6-8 hours you need to provide 2 meals for passengers, which adds to the cost, of you need to make it an overnighter but then you have to provide space for passengers to sleep. Both of which make the cost unaffordable. Why pay $100 for an overnight train when you fly it about 1 hour.
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
captain_spalding said:High-speed rail is the current equivalent of the Springfield Monorail from The Simpson.
We don’t really need trains that run at 300kmh.
We need safe, AFFORDABLE, comfortable trains that run reasonably fast, and which can more or less adhere to a schedule.
High speed rail replaces (or rather seeks to replace) air travel, not conventional rail, so that’s not a useful comparison.
+1
If we want to replace modes of transport with high GHG emissions with something with much lower emissions, wherever that is practicable, then we need high speed rail between Australia’s East Coast cities.
Well, at least the two that count.
:)
sibeen said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:High speed rail replaces (or rather seeks to replace) air travel, not conventional rail, so that’s not a useful comparison.
+1
If we want to replace modes of transport with high GHG emissions with something with much lower emissions, wherever that is practicable, then we need high speed rail between Australia’s East Coast cities.
Well, at least the two that count.
:)
Newcastle and Geelong?
Lunch: corned beef, lettuce & pickled onion in a rye & spelt sandwich, washed down with a pint of hard cider.
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
captain_spalding said:High-speed rail is the current equivalent of the Springfield Monorail from The Simpson.
We don’t really need trains that run at 300kmh.
We need safe, AFFORDABLE, comfortable trains that run reasonably fast, and which can more or less adhere to a schedule.
High speed rail replaces (or rather seeks to replace) air travel, not conventional rail, so that’s not a useful comparison.
If rail can be made reasonably fast (let’s say 150 kmh), and fares reflect that difference between air and rail travel, then it would make travel much more affordable for a wider range of people. There’s bound to be some willingness to trade some time for saving some money.
As well, trains rarely crash into the ground at hundreds of kilometres an hour from a great height. They have the advantage that, if something goes wrong withth operation of the train, they just stop. They don’t have to look for a suitable place to crash. That’s going to appeal to some of the market.
Ya reckon, train travel is like 10 times higher than air travel and takes much longer.
Mind you I much prefer train travel myself.
Bubblecar said:
Lunch: corned beef, lettuce & pickled onion in a rye & spelt sandwich, washed down with a pint of hard cider.
Almost a ploughmans.
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:
dv said:High speed rail replaces (or rather seeks to replace) air travel, not conventional rail, so that’s not a useful comparison.
If rail can be made reasonably fast (let’s say 150 kmh), and fares reflect that difference between air and rail travel, then it would make travel much more affordable for a wider range of people. There’s bound to be some willingness to trade some time for saving some money.
As well, trains rarely crash into the ground at hundreds of kilometres an hour from a great height. They have the advantage that, if something goes wrong withth operation of the train, they just stop. They don’t have to look for a suitable place to crash. That’s going to appeal to some of the market.
Ya reckon, train travel is like 10 times higher than air travel and takes much longer.
Mind you I much prefer train travel myself.
Revive coastal shipping!
sibeen said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:High speed rail replaces (or rather seeks to replace) air travel, not conventional rail, so that’s not a useful comparison.
+1
If we want to replace modes of transport with high GHG emissions with something with much lower emissions, wherever that is practicable, then we need high speed rail between Australia’s East Coast cities.
Well, at least the two that count.
:)
And one that thinks it counts on the way, maybe.
Look I guess we’ve been over all of this but I just thought of an example that is comparable to the Australian Mel-Syd case. Similar length, similar population served. I mean I realise Australia can’t afford everything that fancy countries like Morocco can but it’s something to aspire to eventually.
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
captain_spalding said:High-speed rail is the current equivalent of the Springfield Monorail from The Simpson.
We don’t really need trains that run at 300kmh.
We need safe, AFFORDABLE, comfortable trains that run reasonably fast, and which can more or less adhere to a schedule.
High speed rail replaces (or rather seeks to replace) air travel, not conventional rail, so that’s not a useful comparison.
If rail can be made reasonably fast (let’s say 150 kmh), and fares reflect that difference between air and rail travel, then it would make travel much more affordable for a wider range of people. There’s bound to be some willingness to trade some time for saving some money.
As well, trains rarely crash into the ground at hundreds of kilometres an hour from a great height. They have the advantage that, if something goes wrong withth operation of the train, they just stop. They don’t have to look for a suitable place to crash. That’s going to appeal to some of the market.
I reckon anything less than 250 km/h you end up with the worst of both worlds. It is going to be a long journey, and probably not cost competitive with air travel. It will be most tourists and sightseers only, not ordinary folks who want to get from A to B.
Bubblecar said:
Lunch: corned beef, lettuce & pickled onion in a rye & spelt sandwich, washed down with a pint of hard cider.
I had buttered bread and a glass of Milo. I had a chicken foccacia for breakfast, didn’t need much lunch.
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:
dv said:High speed rail replaces (or rather seeks to replace) air travel, not conventional rail, so that’s not a useful comparison.
If rail can be made reasonably fast (let’s say 150 kmh), and fares reflect that difference between air and rail travel, then it would make travel much more affordable for a wider range of people. There’s bound to be some willingness to trade some time for saving some money.
As well, trains rarely crash into the ground at hundreds of kilometres an hour from a great height. They have the advantage that, if something goes wrong withth operation of the train, they just stop. They don’t have to look for a suitable place to crash. That’s going to appeal to some of the market.
Ya reckon, train travel is like 10 times higher than air travel and takes much longer.
Mind you I much prefer train travel myself.
See this bit here “train travel is like 10 times higher than air travel “ it’s garbled and fucked but those who haven’t been vaccinated can probably still glean the intent so I wont change it.
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:If rail can be made reasonably fast (let’s say 150 kmh), and fares reflect that difference between air and rail travel, then it would make travel much more affordable for a wider range of people. There’s bound to be some willingness to trade some time for saving some money.
As well, trains rarely crash into the ground at hundreds of kilometres an hour from a great height. They have the advantage that, if something goes wrong withth operation of the train, they just stop. They don’t have to look for a suitable place to crash. That’s going to appeal to some of the market.
Ya reckon, train travel is like 10 times higher than air travel and takes much longer.
Mind you I much prefer train travel myself.
See this bit here “train travel is like 10 times higher than air travel “ it’s garbled and fucked but those who haven’t been vaccinated can probably still glean the intent so I wont change it.
I mean if it was 10 times higher than air travel then it would be above the Karman line right?
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:Ya reckon, train travel is like 10 times higher than air travel and takes much longer.
Mind you I much prefer train travel myself.
See this bit here “train travel is like 10 times higher than air travel “ it’s garbled and fucked but those who haven’t been vaccinated can probably still glean the intent so I wont change it.
I mean if it was 10 times higher than air travel then it would be above the Karman line right?

captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:If rail can be made reasonably fast (let’s say 150 kmh), and fares reflect that difference between air and rail travel, then it would make travel much more affordable for a wider range of people. There’s bound to be some willingness to trade some time for saving some money.
As well, trains rarely crash into the ground at hundreds of kilometres an hour from a great height. They have the advantage that, if something goes wrong withth operation of the train, they just stop. They don’t have to look for a suitable place to crash. That’s going to appeal to some of the market.
Ya reckon, train travel is like 10 times higher than air travel and takes much longer.
Mind you I much prefer train travel myself.
Revive coastal shipping!
Yep, a good businessman could make that work I’d reckon.
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:If rail can be made reasonably fast (let’s say 150 kmh), and fares reflect that difference between air and rail travel, then it would make travel much more affordable for a wider range of people. There’s bound to be some willingness to trade some time for saving some money.
As well, trains rarely crash into the ground at hundreds of kilometres an hour from a great height. They have the advantage that, if something goes wrong withth operation of the train, they just stop. They don’t have to look for a suitable place to crash. That’s going to appeal to some of the market.
Ya reckon, train travel is like 10 times higher than air travel and takes much longer.
Mind you I much prefer train travel myself.
Revive coastal shipping!
… and inland canals and paddleboats.
dv said:
sibeen said:
The Rev Dodgson said:+1
If we want to replace modes of transport with high GHG emissions with something with much lower emissions, wherever that is practicable, then we need high speed rail between Australia’s East Coast cities.
Well, at least the two that count.
:)
And one that thinks it counts on the way, maybe.
Look I guess we’ve been over all of this but I just thought of an example that is comparable to the Australian Mel-Syd case. Similar length, similar population served. I mean I realise Australia can’t afford everything that fancy countries like Morocco can but it’s something to aspire to eventually.
but it might be built by CHINA and then they’ll spy on us and infect us with 5G and eradicate COVID-19 and we don’t want that
https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2020/02/294277/high-speed-battle-france-china-fight-to-build-new-train-line-in-morocco/
wandering conversation here over snack and coffee
something something inconsequential chat
lady – don’t think missy’s very hungry
me – nah she’s caught up fairly well (meaning has had plenty dry feed and green grass for days now)
lady – she just wants to come out for mental health reasons followed by a chuckle
so’ll get her out to graze in a moment
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
sibeen said:Well, at least the two that count.
:)
And one that thinks it counts on the way, maybe.
Look I guess we’ve been over all of this but I just thought of an example that is comparable to the Australian Mel-Syd case. Similar length, similar population served. I mean I realise Australia can’t afford everything that fancy countries like Morocco can but it’s something to aspire to eventually.
but it might be built by CHINA and then they’ll spy on us and infect us with 5G and eradicate COVID-19 and we don’t want that
https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2020/02/294277/high-speed-battle-france-china-fight-to-build-new-train-line-in-morocco/
Better still, we could get the FRENCH to build it. They’re pretty good at HSR. The Morroco HSR is pretty much the French TGV system with different seat upholstery.
party_pants said:
SCIENCE said:
dv said:And one that thinks it counts on the way, maybe.
Look I guess we’ve been over all of this but I just thought of an example that is comparable to the Australian Mel-Syd case. Similar length, similar population served. I mean I realise Australia can’t afford everything that fancy countries like Morocco can but it’s something to aspire to eventually.
but it might be built by CHINA and then they’ll spy on us and infect us with 5G and eradicate COVID-19 and we don’t want that
https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2020/02/294277/high-speed-battle-france-china-fight-to-build-new-train-line-in-morocco/
Better still, we could get the FRENCH to build it. They’re pretty good at HSR. The Morroco HSR is pretty much the French TGV system with different seat upholstery.
get them to fight it out, à little bit of competition is good for low prices and efficient markets*
*: and we’ll know whose corrupt mates are benefiting from those dirty trade deals by that Chinese Shill Danny from VIC
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:See this bit here “train travel is like 10 times higher than air travel “ it’s garbled and fucked but those who haven’t been vaccinated can probably still glean the intent so I wont change it.
I mean if it was 10 times higher than air travel then it would be above the Karman line right?
high in altitude not high on mescaline even if it’s the only way to fly
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:Ya reckon, train travel is like 10 times higher than air travel and takes much longer.
Mind you I much prefer train travel myself.
Revive coastal shipping!
… and inland canals and paddleboats.
Zeppelins.
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:Revive coastal shipping!
… and inland canals and paddleboats.
Zeppelins.
horse carts
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:Revive coastal shipping!
… and inland canals and paddleboats.
Zeppelins.
We could used them to transport hydrogen in the new energy economy. They’d be deflated and sent back empty by ship.
>>The Prime Minister has declared Australia will not surrender its values in response to “coercion” from China,<<
From here:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-11/australia-morrison-china-respond-coercion-on-universities/12342924
I suspect the Chinese might say they won’t surrender their values in response to “coercion” from Australia with respect to the finger pointing about COVID 19.
It all sounds like he said she said stuff.
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:… and inland canals and paddleboats.
Zeppelins.
We could used them to transport hydrogen in the new energy economy. They’d be deflated and sent back empty by ship.
buffy said:
>>The Prime Minister has declared Australia will not surrender its values in response to “coercion” from China,<<From here:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-11/australia-morrison-china-respond-coercion-on-universities/12342924
I suspect the Chinese might say they won’t surrender their values in response to “coercion” from Australia with respect to the finger pointing about COVID 19.
It all sounds like he said she said stuff.
^
also they probably say that kind of thing about all kinds of places all the time, sounds like media beating up a non story
except it’s even less of a story because we didn’t hear Australia opening up its borders to ASIANS any time soon now did we
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:… and inland canals and paddleboats.
Zeppelins.
We could used them to transport hydrogen in the new energy economy. They’d be deflated and sent back empty by ship.
We have the ships run on hydrogen.
The zeppelins transport the hydrogen to where the ships are, and the ships bring back the deflated zeppelins.
I call that ‘elegant’.
buffy said:
>>The Prime Minister has declared Australia will not surrender its values in response to “coercion” from China,<<From here:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-11/australia-morrison-china-respond-coercion-on-universities/12342924
I suspect the Chinese might say they won’t surrender their values in response to “coercion” from Australia with respect to the finger pointing about COVID 19.
It all sounds like he said she said stuff.
I’ve listened to enough episodes of Charlie Chan and his inscrutable son to know what’s going on.
buffy said:
>>The Prime Minister has declared Australia will not surrender its values in response to “coercion” from China,<<From here:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-11/australia-morrison-china-respond-coercion-on-universities/12342924
I suspect the Chinese might say they won’t surrender their values in response to “coercion” from Australia with respect to the finger pointing about COVID 19.
It all sounds like he said she said stuff.
Australia’s values are good and wholesome, China are just a bunch of arseholes.
Morrison talks about double standards lolwtf¿
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-11/black-lives-matter-protests-morrison-calls-for-charges/12342762
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:… and inland canals and paddleboats.
Zeppelins.
We could used them to transport hydrogen in the new energy economy. They’d be deflated and sent back empty by ship.
We’re a think tank here.
SCIENCE said:
Morrison talks about double standards lolwtf¿https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-11/black-lives-matter-protests-morrison-calls-for-charges/12342762
Mr Morrison said while the issue of Indigenous incarceration was one worthy of protest, it was not appropriate for advocates to gather en masse during a pandemic.
—-
He could say or do something positive. But he doesn’t want to. Because that would mean ratting on your really right wing friends.
IMO the more he shuts it down the more necessary it is to have.
sarahs mum said:
SCIENCE said:
Morrison talks about double standards lolwtf¿https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-11/black-lives-matter-protests-morrison-calls-for-charges/12342762
Mr Morrison said while the issue of Indigenous incarceration was one worthy of protest, it was not appropriate for advocates to gather en masse during a pandemic.
—-He could say or do something positive. But he doesn’t want to. Because that would mean ratting on your really right wing friends.
IMO the more he shuts it down the more necessary it is to have.
State ALP premiers are saying exactly the same thing.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-11/wa-premier-pleads-for-black-lives-matter-rally-to-be-postponed/12340292
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
SCIENCE said:
Morrison talks about double standards lolwtf¿https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-11/black-lives-matter-protests-morrison-calls-for-charges/12342762
Mr Morrison said while the issue of Indigenous incarceration was one worthy of protest, it was not appropriate for advocates to gather en masse during a pandemic.
—-He could say or do something positive. But he doesn’t want to. Because that would mean ratting on your really right wing friends.
IMO the more he shuts it down the more necessary it is to have.
State ALP premiers are saying exactly the same thing.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-11/wa-premier-pleads-for-black-lives-matter-rally-to-be-postponed/12340292
search on page “double” or “standard” results 0 guess some other same thing
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:… and inland canals and paddleboats.
Zeppelins.
We could used them to transport hydrogen in the new energy economy. They’d be deflated and sent back empty by ship.
Tamb said:
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:Zeppelins.
We could used them to transport hydrogen in the new energy economy. They’d be deflated and sent back empty by ship.
You’d need a non rigid airship to do that.
True.
You’d have to send back the control gondolas and the engines, too.
Tamb said:
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:Zeppelins.
We could used them to transport hydrogen in the new energy economy. They’d be deflated and sent back empty by ship.
You’d need a non rigid airship to do that.
Yes.Technically a Zepplin has a rigid frame type construction. But I thought I’d let it slip for the sake of comic licence.
party_pants said:
Tamb said:
party_pants said:We could used them to transport hydrogen in the new energy economy. They’d be deflated and sent back empty by ship.
You’d need a non rigid airship to do that.Yes.Technically a Zepplin has a rigid frame type construction. But I thought I’d let it slip for the sake of comic licence.
Handsome Mercedes, 1930.
last night I watched “Behind the Curve”. it’s a Netflix doco about flat earthers… Flat Earthers are my all time favourite conspiracy theorists because they are fairly harmless and so committed to their thing.
1. the earth is not only flat but also covered in a dome
2. 1 is only true if you are part of that branch of flat earth theorists… yes there are branches, they don’t all agree.
3. the line “Scientists use all this maths to confuse you but I can see with my own eyes Seattle over there, if the earth wasn’t flat I wouldn’t be able to”
4. they hold conventions.. they are weird and not very informative (it seems)
5. one of the characters says that flat earthers are intelligent people with lives and not all of them live in their mums basement.
6. the main character lives with his mum.. but in the attic
6a at the end they talk about all the people in their lives (family) who they no longer speak to because they called bullshit on their flat earth theory.
7. there is a guy who makes a shit load of money on building flat earth models.
8. they like to make their own t-shirts
9. watch it, it’s entertaining .. also the scientists end with a great note about education.
10. /end of list
Bubblecar said:
Handsome Mercedes, 1930.
not a bad looking car, car, be ideal for spotlighting
Bubblecar said:
Handsome Mercedes, 1930.
Arts said:
last night I watched “Behind the Curve”. it’s a Netflix doco about flat earthers… Flat Earthers are my all time favourite conspiracy theorists because they are fairly harmless and so committed to their thing.1. the earth is not only flat but also covered in a dome
2. 1 is only true if you are part of that branch of flat earth theorists… yes there are branches, they don’t all agree.
3. the line “Scientists use all this maths to confuse you but I can see with my own eyes Seattle over there, if the earth wasn’t flat I wouldn’t be able to”
4. they hold conventions.. they are weird and not very informative (it seems)
5. one of the characters says that flat earthers are intelligent people with lives and not all of them live in their mums basement.
6. the main character lives with his mum.. but in the attic
6a at the end they talk about all the people in their lives (family) who they no longer speak to because they called bullshit on their flat earth theory.
7. there is a guy who makes a shit load of money on building flat earth models.
8. they like to make their own t-shirts
9. watch it, it’s entertaining .. also the scientists end with a great note about education.
10. /end of list
I suppose it is fairly harmless in its own right but I do lump it in with a troubling celebration of ignorance.
Arts said:
last night I watched “Behind the Curve”. it’s a Netflix doco about flat earthers… Flat Earthers are my all time favourite conspiracy theorists because they are fairly harmless and so committed to their thing.1. the earth is not only flat but also covered in a dome
2. 1 is only true if you are part of that branch of flat earth theorists… yes there are branches, they don’t all agree.
3. the line “Scientists use all this maths to confuse you but I can see with my own eyes Seattle over there, if the earth wasn’t flat I wouldn’t be able to”
4. they hold conventions.. they are weird and not very informative (it seems)
5. one of the characters says that flat earthers are intelligent people with lives and not all of them live in their mums basement.
6. the main character lives with his mum.. but in the attic
6a at the end they talk about all the people in their lives (family) who they no longer speak to because they called bullshit on their flat earth theory.
7. there is a guy who makes a shit load of money on building flat earth models.
8. they like to make their own t-shirts
9. watch it, it’s entertaining .. also the scientists end with a great note about education.
10. /end of list
10.a. oh I forgot to mention the experiments that flat earthers did to prove the earth was flat and how they consistently proved otherwise… but they say things like “well, we musn’t be doing it right”.
Arts said:
last night I watched “Behind the Curve”. it’s a Netflix doco about flat earthers… Flat Earthers are my all time favourite conspiracy theorists because they are fairly harmless and so committed to their thing.1. the earth is not only flat but also covered in a dome
2. 1 is only true if you are part of that branch of flat earth theorists… yes there are branches, they don’t all agree.
3. the line “Scientists use all this maths to confuse you but I can see with my own eyes Seattle over there, if the earth wasn’t flat I wouldn’t be able to”
4. they hold conventions.. they are weird and not very informative (it seems)
5. one of the characters says that flat earthers are intelligent people with lives and not all of them live in their mums basement.
6. the main character lives with his mum.. but in the attic
6a at the end they talk about all the people in their lives (family) who they no longer speak to because they called bullshit on their flat earth theory.
7. there is a guy who makes a shit load of money on building flat earth models.
8. they like to make their own t-shirts
9. watch it, it’s entertaining .. also the scientists end with a great note about education.
10. /end of list
Terry Pratchett had an interesting take on flat Earth.
transition said:
Bubblecar said:
Handsome Mercedes, 1930.
not a bad looking car, car, be ideal for spotlighting
and taking a ride down a busy street in Texas..
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
Handsome Mercedes, 1930.
This one was popular at the time![]()
Yes, it’s drawn quite a crowd to gawk at it cruising down the street.
Arts said:
Arts said:
last night I watched “Behind the Curve”. it’s a Netflix doco about flat earthers… Flat Earthers are my all time favourite conspiracy theorists because they are fairly harmless and so committed to their thing.1. the earth is not only flat but also covered in a dome
2. 1 is only true if you are part of that branch of flat earth theorists… yes there are branches, they don’t all agree.
3. the line “Scientists use all this maths to confuse you but I can see with my own eyes Seattle over there, if the earth wasn’t flat I wouldn’t be able to”
4. they hold conventions.. they are weird and not very informative (it seems)
5. one of the characters says that flat earthers are intelligent people with lives and not all of them live in their mums basement.
6. the main character lives with his mum.. but in the attic
6a at the end they talk about all the people in their lives (family) who they no longer speak to because they called bullshit on their flat earth theory.
7. there is a guy who makes a shit load of money on building flat earth models.
8. they like to make their own t-shirts
9. watch it, it’s entertaining .. also the scientists end with a great note about education.
10. /end of list
10.a. oh I forgot to mention the experiments that flat earthers did to prove the earth was flat and how they consistently proved otherwise… but they say things like “well, we musn’t be doing it right”.
Does the steam rocket guy get a mention?
Arts said:
Arts said:
last night I watched “Behind the Curve”. it’s a Netflix doco about flat earthers… Flat Earthers are my all time favourite conspiracy theorists because they are fairly harmless and so committed to their thing.1. the earth is not only flat but also covered in a dome
2. 1 is only true if you are part of that branch of flat earth theorists… yes there are branches, they don’t all agree.
3. the line “Scientists use all this maths to confuse you but I can see with my own eyes Seattle over there, if the earth wasn’t flat I wouldn’t be able to”
4. they hold conventions.. they are weird and not very informative (it seems)
5. one of the characters says that flat earthers are intelligent people with lives and not all of them live in their mums basement.
6. the main character lives with his mum.. but in the attic
6a at the end they talk about all the people in their lives (family) who they no longer speak to because they called bullshit on their flat earth theory.
7. there is a guy who makes a shit load of money on building flat earth models.
8. they like to make their own t-shirts
9. watch it, it’s entertaining .. also the scientists end with a great note about education.
10. /end of list
10.a. oh I forgot to mention the experiments that flat earthers did to prove the earth was flat and how they consistently proved otherwise… but they say things like “well, we musn’t be doing it right”.
Jake Byrd went to one of the conventions…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcNKIGAodj8
dv said:
Arts said:
last night I watched “Behind the Curve”. it’s a Netflix doco about flat earthers… Flat Earthers are my all time favourite conspiracy theorists because they are fairly harmless and so committed to their thing.1. the earth is not only flat but also covered in a dome
2. 1 is only true if you are part of that branch of flat earth theorists… yes there are branches, they don’t all agree.
3. the line “Scientists use all this maths to confuse you but I can see with my own eyes Seattle over there, if the earth wasn’t flat I wouldn’t be able to”
4. they hold conventions.. they are weird and not very informative (it seems)
5. one of the characters says that flat earthers are intelligent people with lives and not all of them live in their mums basement.
6. the main character lives with his mum.. but in the attic
6a at the end they talk about all the people in their lives (family) who they no longer speak to because they called bullshit on their flat earth theory.
7. there is a guy who makes a shit load of money on building flat earth models.
8. they like to make their own t-shirts
9. watch it, it’s entertaining .. also the scientists end with a great note about education.
10. /end of list
I suppose it is fairly harmless in its own right but I do lump it in with a troubling celebration of ignorance.
unfortunately it turns out to be not as harmless as I fist imagined.. they also teach their children this, to a point where the children argue with their teachers in school and then get in trouble… I don’t like that aspect of it…
party_pants said:
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
Handsome Mercedes, 1930.
This one was popular at the time![]()
Yes, it’s drawn quite a crowd to gawk at it cruising down the street.
That Hitler one is a bigger four-door model.
furious said:
Arts said:
Arts said:
last night I watched “Behind the Curve”. it’s a Netflix doco about flat earthers… Flat Earthers are my all time favourite conspiracy theorists because they are fairly harmless and so committed to their thing.1. the earth is not only flat but also covered in a dome
2. 1 is only true if you are part of that branch of flat earth theorists… yes there are branches, they don’t all agree.
3. the line “Scientists use all this maths to confuse you but I can see with my own eyes Seattle over there, if the earth wasn’t flat I wouldn’t be able to”
4. they hold conventions.. they are weird and not very informative (it seems)
5. one of the characters says that flat earthers are intelligent people with lives and not all of them live in their mums basement.
6. the main character lives with his mum.. but in the attic
6a at the end they talk about all the people in their lives (family) who they no longer speak to because they called bullshit on their flat earth theory.
7. there is a guy who makes a shit load of money on building flat earth models.
8. they like to make their own t-shirts
9. watch it, it’s entertaining .. also the scientists end with a great note about education.
10. /end of list
10.a. oh I forgot to mention the experiments that flat earthers did to prove the earth was flat and how they consistently proved otherwise… but they say things like “well, we musn’t be doing it right”.
Does the steam rocket guy get a mention?
I don’t remember him getting a mention or maybe he was being referred to in passing, but her certainly didn’t feature int he doco. this was made in 2018 ..
Arts said:
last night I watched “Behind the Curve”. it’s a Netflix doco about flat earthers… Flat Earthers are my all time favourite conspiracy theorists because they are fairly harmless and so committed to their thing.1. the earth is not only flat but also covered in a dome
2. 1 is only true if you are part of that branch of flat earth theorists… yes there are branches, they don’t all agree.
3. the line “Scientists use all this maths to confuse you but I can see with my own eyes Seattle over there, if the earth wasn’t flat I wouldn’t be able to”
4. they hold conventions.. they are weird and not very informative (it seems)
5. one of the characters says that flat earthers are intelligent people with lives and not all of them live in their mums basement.
6. the main character lives with his mum.. but in the attic
6a at the end they talk about all the people in their lives (family) who they no longer speak to because they called bullshit on their flat earth theory.
7. there is a guy who makes a shit load of money on building flat earth models.
8. they like to make their own t-shirts
9. watch it, it’s entertaining .. also the scientists end with a great note about education.
10. /end of list
what is the note about education
(we don’t have Netflix)
dv said:
Arts said:
Arts said:
last night I watched “Behind the Curve”. it’s a Netflix doco about flat earthers… Flat Earthers are my all time favourite conspiracy theorists because they are fairly harmless and so committed to their thing.1. the earth is not only flat but also covered in a dome
2. 1 is only true if you are part of that branch of flat earth theorists… yes there are branches, they don’t all agree.
3. the line “Scientists use all this maths to confuse you but I can see with my own eyes Seattle over there, if the earth wasn’t flat I wouldn’t be able to”
4. they hold conventions.. they are weird and not very informative (it seems)
5. one of the characters says that flat earthers are intelligent people with lives and not all of them live in their mums basement.
6. the main character lives with his mum.. but in the attic
6a at the end they talk about all the people in their lives (family) who they no longer speak to because they called bullshit on their flat earth theory.
7. there is a guy who makes a shit load of money on building flat earth models.
8. they like to make their own t-shirts
9. watch it, it’s entertaining .. also the scientists end with a great note about education.
10. /end of list
10.a. oh I forgot to mention the experiments that flat earthers did to prove the earth was flat and how they consistently proved otherwise… but they say things like “well, we musn’t be doing it right”.
Jake Byrd went to one of the conventions…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcNKIGAodj8
Mark Sargeant was the main character in this doco.
SCIENCE said:
Arts said:
last night I watched “Behind the Curve”. it’s a Netflix doco about flat earthers… Flat Earthers are my all time favourite conspiracy theorists because they are fairly harmless and so committed to their thing.1. the earth is not only flat but also covered in a dome
2. 1 is only true if you are part of that branch of flat earth theorists… yes there are branches, they don’t all agree.
3. the line “Scientists use all this maths to confuse you but I can see with my own eyes Seattle over there, if the earth wasn’t flat I wouldn’t be able to”
4. they hold conventions.. they are weird and not very informative (it seems)
5. one of the characters says that flat earthers are intelligent people with lives and not all of them live in their mums basement.
6. the main character lives with his mum.. but in the attic
6a at the end they talk about all the people in their lives (family) who they no longer speak to because they called bullshit on their flat earth theory.
7. there is a guy who makes a shit load of money on building flat earth models.
8. they like to make their own t-shirts
9. watch it, it’s entertaining .. also the scientists end with a great note about education.
10. /end of list
what is the note about education
(we don’t have Netflix)
from the scientists, they spoke about how easy it is to laugh people like this off, but it’s better to (take the high road) basically… listen, converse, discuss and educate. the old LCDE trick.
Arts said:
transition said:
Bubblecar said:
Handsome Mercedes, 1930.
not a bad looking car, car, be ideal for spotlighting
and taking a ride down a busy street in Texas..
At the age of 37.
Arts said:
SCIENCE said:
Arts said:
last night I watched “Behind the Curve”. it’s a Netflix doco about flat earthers… Flat Earthers are my all time favourite conspiracy theorists because they are fairly harmless and so committed to their thing.1. the earth is not only flat but also covered in a dome
2. 1 is only true if you are part of that branch of flat earth theorists… yes there are branches, they don’t all agree.
3. the line “Scientists use all this maths to confuse you but I can see with my own eyes Seattle over there, if the earth wasn’t flat I wouldn’t be able to”
4. they hold conventions.. they are weird and not very informative (it seems)
5. one of the characters says that flat earthers are intelligent people with lives and not all of them live in their mums basement.
6. the main character lives with his mum.. but in the attic
6a at the end they talk about all the people in their lives (family) who they no longer speak to because they called bullshit on their flat earth theory.
7. there is a guy who makes a shit load of money on building flat earth models.
8. they like to make their own t-shirts
9. watch it, it’s entertaining .. also the scientists end with a great note about education.
10. /end of list
what is the note about education
(we don’t have Netflix)
from the scientists, they spoke about how easy it is to laugh people like this off, but it’s better to (take the high road) basically… listen, converse, discuss and educate. the old LCDE trick.
What did the Flat Earth people say was the motivation behind the Flat Earth conspiracy?
dv said:
Arts said:
SCIENCE said:what is the note about education
(we don’t have Netflix)
from the scientists, they spoke about how easy it is to laugh people like this off, but it’s better to (take the high road) basically… listen, converse, discuss and educate. the old LCDE trick.
What did the Flat Earth people say was the motivation behind the Flat Earth conspiracy?
Basically it’s the round earth conspiracy that we worry about.
Arts said:
SCIENCE said:
Arts said:
last night I watched “Behind the Curve”. it’s a Netflix doco about flat earthers… Flat Earthers are my all time favourite conspiracy theorists because they are fairly harmless and so committed to their thing.1. the earth is not only flat but also covered in a dome
2. 1 is only true if you are part of that branch of flat earth theorists… yes there are branches, they don’t all agree.
3. the line “Scientists use all this maths to confuse you but I can see with my own eyes Seattle over there, if the earth wasn’t flat I wouldn’t be able to”
4. they hold conventions.. they are weird and not very informative (it seems)
5. one of the characters says that flat earthers are intelligent people with lives and not all of them live in their mums basement.
6. the main character lives with his mum.. but in the attic
6a at the end they talk about all the people in their lives (family) who they no longer speak to because they called bullshit on their flat earth theory.
7. there is a guy who makes a shit load of money on building flat earth models.
8. they like to make their own t-shirts
9. watch it, it’s entertaining .. also the scientists end with a great note about education.
10. /end of list
what is the note about education
(we don’t have Netflix)
from the scientists, they spoke about how easy it is to laugh people like this off, but it’s better to (take the high road) basically… listen, converse, discuss and educate. the old LCDE trick.
And I wonder just how often that works?
Arts said:
SCIENCE said:
Arts said:
last night I watched “Behind the Curve”. it’s a Netflix doco about flat earthers… Flat Earthers are my all time favourite conspiracy theorists because they are fairly harmless and so committed to their thing.1. the earth is not only flat but also covered in a dome
2. 1 is only true if you are part of that branch of flat earth theorists… yes there are branches, they don’t all agree.
3. the line “Scientists use all this maths to confuse you but I can see with my own eyes Seattle over there, if the earth wasn’t flat I wouldn’t be able to”
4. they hold conventions.. they are weird and not very informative (it seems)
5. one of the characters says that flat earthers are intelligent people with lives and not all of them live in their mums basement.
6. the main character lives with his mum.. but in the attic
6a at the end they talk about all the people in their lives (family) who they no longer speak to because they called bullshit on their flat earth theory.
7. there is a guy who makes a shit load of money on building flat earth models.
8. they like to make their own t-shirts
9. watch it, it’s entertaining .. also the scientists end with a great note about education.
10. /end of list
what is the note about education
(we don’t have Netflix)
from the scientists, they spoke about how easy it is to laugh people like this off, but it’s better to (take the high road) basically… listen, converse, discuss and educate. the old LCDE trick.
thanks
we wonder if it keeps working given that often it feels like smashing head into wall but we’ll keep engaging for now
btm said:
Arts said:
transition said:not a bad looking car, car, be ideal for spotlighting
and taking a ride down a busy street in Texas..
At the age of 37.
With the warm wind in her hair
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
Arts said:from the scientists, they spoke about how easy it is to laugh people like this off, but it’s better to (take the high road) basically… listen, converse, discuss and educate. the old LCDE trick.
What did the Flat Earth people say was the motivation behind the Flat Earth conspiracy?
Basically it’s the round earth conspiracy that we worry about.
sibeen said:
btm said:
Arts said:and taking a ride down a busy street in Texas..
At the age of 37.
With the warm wind in her hair
Tamb said:
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:What did the Flat Earth people say was the motivation behind the Flat Earth conspiracy?
Basically it’s the round earth conspiracy that we worry about.
The flat earthers say it’s not a conspiracy it’s an as yet unproven fact.
Given the number of images of the round earth in space, it would have to be a conspiracy.
Tamb said:
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:What did the Flat Earth people say was the motivation behind the Flat Earth conspiracy?
Basically it’s the round earth conspiracy that we worry about.
The flat earthers say it’s not a conspiracy it’s an as yet unproven fact.
Now, I think he might be asking, what do the flat earthers say is the motivation behind “scientists” saying the world isn’t flat…
dv said:
Arts said:
SCIENCE said:what is the note about education
(we don’t have Netflix)
from the scientists, they spoke about how easy it is to laugh people like this off, but it’s better to (take the high road) basically… listen, converse, discuss and educate. the old LCDE trick.
What did the Flat Earth people say was the motivation behind the Flat Earth conspiracy?
varied.. but mostly NASA are liars and trying to fool the world… then one flat earther accused another of being a NASA plant and actor put there by the CIA… I mean, the paranoia of these individuals is concerning.
SCIENCE said:
Arts said:
SCIENCE said:what is the note about education
(we don’t have Netflix)
from the scientists, they spoke about how easy it is to laugh people like this off, but it’s better to (take the high road) basically… listen, converse, discuss and educate. the old LCDE trick.
thanks
we wonder if it keeps working given that often it feels like smashing head into wall but we’ll keep engaging for now
I agree.. I would probably give up and sigh a lot and walk away… but if there are some people willing to take on that fight, I’ll buy them refreshments in support.
furious said:
Tamb said:
Peak Warming Man said:Basically it’s the round earth conspiracy that we worry about.
The flat earthers say it’s not a conspiracy it’s an as yet unproven fact.Now, I think he might be asking, what do the flat earthers say is the motivation behind “scientists” saying the world isn’t flat…
Perhaps they hope some rich person will give them a ride of a commercial rocket to prove to them its round
If you ever want to feel smart, follow #flatearth or #nasalies on Twitter. Holy hell.
Arts said:
dv said:
Arts said:from the scientists, they spoke about how easy it is to laugh people like this off, but it’s better to (take the high road) basically… listen, converse, discuss and educate. the old LCDE trick.
What did the Flat Earth people say was the motivation behind the Flat Earth conspiracy?
varied.. but mostly NASA are liars and trying to fool the world… t
Yeah but … why? To what end? I mean it’s a conspiracy that would have to involve tens of millions of people in relevant professions, plus everyone who ever even looked into the matter closely on an amateur basis. Qui bono?
Arts said:
dv said:
Arts said:from the scientists, they spoke about how easy it is to laugh people like this off, but it’s better to (take the high road) basically… listen, converse, discuss and educate. the old LCDE trick.
What did the Flat Earth people say was the motivation behind the Flat Earth conspiracy?
varied.. but mostly NASA are liars and trying to fool the world… then one flat earther accused another of being a NASA plant and actor put there by the CIA… I mean, the paranoia of these individuals is concerning.
It would be a conspiracy that grows in numbers all the time you’d have to get every spacefaring nation to be part of it including North Korea
Divine Angel said:
If you ever want to feel smart, follow #flatearth or #nasalies on Twitter. Holy hell.
Nasal Ies
btm said:
At the age of 37.
I don’t get the reference
at the convention a 12 yr old kid asked Mark Sargeant how high he thought the dome was… there was no answer (shown in the doco) the speaker just asked the kid how old he was and said that he loves that kids are starting to catch on to this truth…
this also concerns me… but I would have also liked to know the answer
dv said:
Arts said:
dv said:What did the Flat Earth people say was the motivation behind the Flat Earth conspiracy?
varied.. but mostly NASA are liars and trying to fool the world… t
Yeah but … why? To what end? I mean it’s a conspiracy that would have to involve tens of millions of people in relevant professions, plus everyone who ever even looked into the matter closely on an amateur basis. Qui bono?
yes yes.. I am on your side.. you don’t need to convince me… “it’s a way to keep people dumb so you can control them” was one quote
Cymek said:
Arts said:
dv said:What did the Flat Earth people say was the motivation behind the Flat Earth conspiracy?
varied.. but mostly NASA are liars and trying to fool the world… then one flat earther accused another of being a NASA plant and actor put there by the CIA… I mean, the paranoia of these individuals is concerning.
It would be a conspiracy that grows in numbers all the time you’d have to get every spacefaring nation to be part of it including North Korea
dude.. the flat earth you tube videos have over 1 MILLION SUBSCRIBERS!!!!!!!
Arts said:
last night I watched “Behind the Curve”. it’s a Netflix doco about flat earthers… Flat Earthers are my all time favourite conspiracy theorists because they are fairly harmless and so committed to their thing.1. the earth is not only flat but also covered in a dome
2. 1 is only true if you are part of that branch of flat earth theorists… yes there are branches, they don’t all agree.
3. the line “Scientists use all this maths to confuse you but I can see with my own eyes Seattle over there, if the earth wasn’t flat I wouldn’t be able to”
4. they hold conventions.. they are weird and not very informative (it seems)
5. one of the characters says that flat earthers are intelligent people with lives and not all of them live in their mums basement.
6. the main character lives with his mum.. but in the attic
6a at the end they talk about all the people in their lives (family) who they no longer speak to because they called bullshit on their flat earth theory.
7. there is a guy who makes a shit load of money on building flat earth models.
8. they like to make their own t-shirts
9. watch it, it’s entertaining .. also the scientists end with a great note about education.
10. /end of list
Might give it a miss.
I get my flat-earth fix from Quora.
And, and, where is the edge? Do they have ideas where that might be? I might have to watch it, if I can bear it, how long is it?
Arts said:
SCIENCE said:
Arts said:
last night I watched “Behind the Curve”. it’s a Netflix doco about flat earthers… Flat Earthers are my all time favourite conspiracy theorists because they are fairly harmless and so committed to their thing.1. the earth is not only flat but also covered in a dome
2. 1 is only true if you are part of that branch of flat earth theorists… yes there are branches, they don’t all agree.
3. the line “Scientists use all this maths to confuse you but I can see with my own eyes Seattle over there, if the earth wasn’t flat I wouldn’t be able to”
4. they hold conventions.. they are weird and not very informative (it seems)
5. one of the characters says that flat earthers are intelligent people with lives and not all of them live in their mums basement.
6. the main character lives with his mum.. but in the attic
6a at the end they talk about all the people in their lives (family) who they no longer speak to because they called bullshit on their flat earth theory.
7. there is a guy who makes a shit load of money on building flat earth models.
8. they like to make their own t-shirts
9. watch it, it’s entertaining .. also the scientists end with a great note about education.
10. /end of list
what is the note about education
(we don’t have Netflix)
from the scientists, they spoke about how easy it is to laugh people like this off, but it’s better to (take the high road) basically… listen, converse, discuss and educate. the old LCDE trick.
Quite honestly I can’t see the point. Just write them off and ignore them.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Arts said:
last night I watched “Behind the Curve”. it’s a Netflix doco about flat earthers… Flat Earthers are my all time favourite conspiracy theorists because they are fairly harmless and so committed to their thing.1. the earth is not only flat but also covered in a dome
2. 1 is only true if you are part of that branch of flat earth theorists… yes there are branches, they don’t all agree.
3. the line “Scientists use all this maths to confuse you but I can see with my own eyes Seattle over there, if the earth wasn’t flat I wouldn’t be able to”
4. they hold conventions.. they are weird and not very informative (it seems)
5. one of the characters says that flat earthers are intelligent people with lives and not all of them live in their mums basement.
6. the main character lives with his mum.. but in the attic
6a at the end they talk about all the people in their lives (family) who they no longer speak to because they called bullshit on their flat earth theory.
7. there is a guy who makes a shit load of money on building flat earth models.
8. they like to make their own t-shirts
9. watch it, it’s entertaining .. also the scientists end with a great note about education.
10. /end of list
Might give it a miss.
I get my flat-earth fix from Quora.
I have told you that quora is a terrible place to be.
furious said:
And, and, where is the edge? Do they have ideas where that might be? I might have to watch it, if I can bear it, how long is it?
Normally they represent Antarctica as being kind of a big frosty frisbee.
dv said:
btm said:
At the age of 37.
I don’t get the reference
Isadora Duncan perhaps.
furious said:
And, and, where is the edge? Do they have ideas where that might be? I might have to watch it, if I can bear it, how long is it?
the edges are massive ice sheets no-one can get over. (I know I know). watch it.. it’s 1.5 hours.
dv said:
btm said:
At the age of 37.
I don’t get the reference
The Ballad of Lucy Jordan.
party_pants said:
Arts said:
SCIENCE said:what is the note about education
(we don’t have Netflix)
from the scientists, they spoke about how easy it is to laugh people like this off, but it’s better to (take the high road) basically… listen, converse, discuss and educate. the old LCDE trick.
Quite honestly I can’t see the point. Just write them off and ignore them.
except that ignoring them spreads the misinformation.
dv said:
btm said:
At the age of 37.
I don’t get the reference
Arts said:
furious said:
And, and, where is the edge? Do they have ideas where that might be? I might have to watch it, if I can bear it, how long is it?
the edges are massive ice sheets no-one can get over. (I know I know). watch it.. it’s 1.5 hours.
Could not a zombie ice dragon breach the walls
Cymek said:
Arts said:
furious said:
And, and, where is the edge? Do they have ideas where that might be? I might have to watch it, if I can bear it, how long is it?
the edges are massive ice sheets no-one can get over. (I know I know). watch it.. it’s 1.5 hours.
Could not a zombie ice dragon breach the walls
I mean, they probably would if NASA wasn’t keeping them all locked in underground dungeons to milk them for vaccines.
sibeen said:
dv said:btm said:
At the age of 37.
I don’t get the reference
The Ballad of Lucy Jordan.
Featured in the movie Thelma and Louise. https://youtu.be/d0NxhFn0szc
Arts said:
party_pants said:
Arts said:from the scientists, they spoke about how easy it is to laugh people like this off, but it’s better to (take the high road) basically… listen, converse, discuss and educate. the old LCDE trick.
Quite honestly I can’t see the point. Just write them off and ignore them.
except that ignoring them spreads the misinformation.
You invest your resources in educating the rest of the population so that they don’t fall victim to it, thus limiting the further spread.
Arts said:
Cymek said:
Arts said:the edges are massive ice sheets no-one can get over. (I know I know). watch it.. it’s 1.5 hours.
Could not a zombie ice dragon breach the walls
I mean, they probably would if NASA wasn’t keeping them all locked in underground dungeons to milk them for vaccines.
I didn’t think about that
Cymek said:
Arts said:
furious said:
And, and, where is the edge? Do they have ideas where that might be? I might have to watch it, if I can bear it, how long is it?
the edges are massive ice sheets no-one can get over. (I know I know). watch it.. it’s 1.5 hours.
Could not a zombie ice dragon breach the walls
sibeen said:
dv said:btm said:
At the age of 37.
I don’t get the reference
The Ballad of Lucy Jordan.
It seems I have avoided hearing this song up ‘till now.
party_pants said:
Arts said:
party_pants said:Quite honestly I can’t see the point. Just write them off and ignore them.
except that ignoring them spreads the misinformation.
You invest your resources in educating the rest of the population so that they don’t fall victim to it, thus limiting the further spread.
most of today’s flat earthers went through the same system.
Cymek said:
Arts said:
furious said:
And, and, where is the edge? Do they have ideas where that might be? I might have to watch it, if I can bear it, how long is it?
the edges are massive ice sheets no-one can get over. (I know I know). watch it.. it’s 1.5 hours.
Could not a zombie ice dragon breach the walls
Please refer to him by his correct title which is Senate Majority Leader.
dv said:
Cymek said:
Arts said:the edges are massive ice sheets no-one can get over. (I know I know). watch it.. it’s 1.5 hours.
Could not a zombie ice dragon breach the walls
Please refer to him by his correct title which is Senate Majority Leader.
Very good…
dv said:
Cymek said:
Arts said:the edges are massive ice sheets no-one can get over. (I know I know). watch it.. it’s 1.5 hours.
Could not a zombie ice dragon breach the walls
Please refer to him by his correct title which is Senate Majority Leader.
Arts said:
party_pants said:
Arts said:except that ignoring them spreads the misinformation.
You invest your resources in educating the rest of the population so that they don’t fall victim to it, thus limiting the further spread.
most of today’s flat earthers went through the same system.
Reform the system. You don’t get anywhere with these people by treating them seriously or listening respectfully to their bullshit. This is what they want, to be taken seriously. The more seriously you take them the more tenaciously they will cling to their bullshit because it is all they have. Stop treating them seriously and they’ll drop it and move on.
party_pants said:
Arts said:
party_pants said:You invest your resources in educating the rest of the population so that they don’t fall victim to it, thus limiting the further spread.
most of today’s flat earthers went through the same system.
Reform the system. You don’t get anywhere with these people by treating them seriously or listening respectfully to their bullshit. This is what they want, to be taken seriously. The more seriously you take them the more tenaciously they will cling to their bullshit because it is all they have. Stop treating them seriously and they’ll drop it and move on.
I don’t agree that they will drop it and move on…
Arts said:
party_pants said:
Arts said:most of today’s flat earthers went through the same system.
Reform the system. You don’t get anywhere with these people by treating them seriously or listening respectfully to their bullshit. This is what they want, to be taken seriously. The more seriously you take them the more tenaciously they will cling to their bullshit because it is all they have. Stop treating them seriously and they’ll drop it and move on.
I don’t agree that they will drop it and move on…
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:
dv said:I don’t get the reference
The Ballad of Lucy Jordan.
It seems I have avoided hearing this song up ‘till now.
I do find that surprising.
Arts said:
party_pants said:
Arts said:most of today’s flat earthers went through the same system.
Reform the system. You don’t get anywhere with these people by treating them seriously or listening respectfully to their bullshit. This is what they want, to be taken seriously. The more seriously you take them the more tenaciously they will cling to their bullshit because it is all they have. Stop treating them seriously and they’ll drop it and move on.
I don’t agree that they will drop it and move on…
Probably only onto the next conspiracy theory, sadly. But what motivates these people is the attention they get. Even making a Netflix doco about them is probably counter-productive.
Arts said:
party_pants said:
Arts said:most of today’s flat earthers went through the same system.
Reform the system. You don’t get anywhere with these people by treating them seriously or listening respectfully to their bullshit. This is what they want, to be taken seriously. The more seriously you take them the more tenaciously they will cling to their bullshit because it is all they have. Stop treating them seriously and they’ll drop it and move on.
I don’t agree that they will drop it and move on…
but the point is to rebuke their efforts with real science… maybe teach them skills for robust research instead of siding with confirmation bias.. those whose belief system is the strongest can handle looking at opposing points of view.. isn’t that what science is? accepting that in proof we can change our beliefs… I hope so, otherwise I have to side with the flat earthers and think that Galileo was a knucklehead.
party_pants said:
Arts said:
party_pants said:Reform the system. You don’t get anywhere with these people by treating them seriously or listening respectfully to their bullshit. This is what they want, to be taken seriously. The more seriously you take them the more tenaciously they will cling to their bullshit because it is all they have. Stop treating them seriously and they’ll drop it and move on.
I don’t agree that they will drop it and move on…
Probably only onto the next conspiracy theory, sadly. But what motivates these people is the attention they get. Even making a Netflix doco about them is probably counter-productive.
definitely agree that the attention is a massive motivator for them.. The Mark Sargeant guy was alway on about how popular he is and how much people (his people, the flat earthers) love and adore him… totally attention motivated.
I was drawn to the ones who were doing some actual science… their techniques seemed robust enough, even if they didn’t accept the data in the end…
Arts said:
Arts said:
party_pants said:Reform the system. You don’t get anywhere with these people by treating them seriously or listening respectfully to their bullshit. This is what they want, to be taken seriously. The more seriously you take them the more tenaciously they will cling to their bullshit because it is all they have. Stop treating them seriously and they’ll drop it and move on.
I don’t agree that they will drop it and move on…
but the point is to rebuke their efforts with real science… maybe teach them skills for robust research instead of siding with confirmation bias.. those whose belief system is the strongest can handle looking at opposing points of view.. isn’t that what science is? accepting that in proof we can change our beliefs… I hope so, otherwise I have to side with the flat earthers and think that Galileo was a knucklehead.
These people know they are wrong and are just doing it for the attention.
party_pants said:
Arts said:
Arts said:I don’t agree that they will drop it and move on…
but the point is to rebuke their efforts with real science… maybe teach them skills for robust research instead of siding with confirmation bias.. those whose belief system is the strongest can handle looking at opposing points of view.. isn’t that what science is? accepting that in proof we can change our beliefs… I hope so, otherwise I have to side with the flat earthers and think that Galileo was a knucklehead.
These people know they are wrong and are just doing it for the attention.
I presume so. Might also be money in it. There’s plenty of money in religious bullshit so this might be the same sort of game.
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
Arts said:but the point is to rebuke their efforts with real science… maybe teach them skills for robust research instead of siding with confirmation bias.. those whose belief system is the strongest can handle looking at opposing points of view.. isn’t that what science is? accepting that in proof we can change our beliefs… I hope so, otherwise I have to side with the flat earthers and think that Galileo was a knucklehead.
These people know they are wrong and are just doing it for the attention.
I presume so. Might also be money in it. There’s plenty of money in religious bullshit so this might be the same sort of game.
Yeah I mean a flat globe or tshirt would good for LOL’s
party_pants said:
Arts said:
Arts said:I don’t agree that they will drop it and move on…
but the point is to rebuke their efforts with real science… maybe teach them skills for robust research instead of siding with confirmation bias.. those whose belief system is the strongest can handle looking at opposing points of view.. isn’t that what science is? accepting that in proof we can change our beliefs… I hope so, otherwise I have to side with the flat earthers and think that Galileo was a knucklehead.
These people know they are wrong and are just doing it for the attention.
I like your confidence…
At the Flat Earth Research Facility they use a specially developed application to project the earth onto a globe.
Peak Warming Man said:
At the Flat Earth Research Facility they use a specially developed application to project the earth onto a globe.
FERF?
Arts said:
party_pants said:
Arts said:but the point is to rebuke their efforts with real science… maybe teach them skills for robust research instead of siding with confirmation bias.. those whose belief system is the strongest can handle looking at opposing points of view.. isn’t that what science is? accepting that in proof we can change our beliefs… I hope so, otherwise I have to side with the flat earthers and think that Galileo was a knucklehead.
These people know they are wrong and are just doing it for the attention.
I like your confidence…
I just find it impossible that anyone born in a developed country and given a normal upbringing and education could genuinely in their heart-of-hearts believe that planet Earth is any shape other than an oblate spheroid. Unless they had a profound intellectual disability. That leaves only psychological reasons as the motivation.
Arts said:
Peak Warming Man said:
At the Flat Earth Research Facility they use a specially developed application to project the earth onto a globe.
FERF?
Tamb said:
Arts said:
Peak Warming Man said:
At the Flat Earth Research Facility they use a specially developed application to project the earth onto a globe.
FERF?
I’m confused.
Some years ago I flew West to the UK then more West to the US then more West to Honolulu and finally even more West to Australia. Did I somehow reverse direction at the international date line?
There are literally tens of thousands of people like you who have a done a round-the-world trip.
party_pants said:
Tamb said:
Arts said:FERF?
I’m confused.
Some years ago I flew West to the UK then more West to the US then more West to Honolulu and finally even more West to Australia. Did I somehow reverse direction at the international date line?There are literally tens of thousands of people like you who have a done a round-the-world trip.
Paid shills.
party_pants said:
Tamb said:
Arts said:FERF?
I’m confused.
Some years ago I flew West to the UK then more West to the US then more West to Honolulu and finally even more West to Australia. Did I somehow reverse direction at the international date line?There are literally tens of thousands of people like you who have a done a round-the-world trip.
There is no subject connected with New South Wales, or Australia, less understood in England than the character and condition of the aboriginal natives. They have been described as the lowest in the scale of humanity, yet I found those who accompanied me superior in penetration and judgment to the white men composing my party. Their means of subsistence and their habits, are both extremely simple; but they are adjusted with admirable fitness to the few resources afforded by such a country, in its wild state. What these resources are, and how they are economised by the natives, can only be learnt by an extensive acquaintance with the interior; and the knowledge of a few simple facts, bearing on this subject, may not be wholly devoid of interest. Fire, grass, kangaroos, and human inhabitants, seem all dependent on each other for existence in Australia; for any one of these being wanting, the others could no longer continue. Fire is necessary to burn the grass, and form those open forests, in which we find the large forest-kangaroo; the native applies that fire to the grass at certain seasons, in order that a young green crop may subsequently spring up, and so attract and enable him to kill or take the kangaroo with nets. In summer, the burning of long grass also discloses vermin, birds’ nests, etc., on which the females and children, who chiefly burn the grass, feed. But for this simple process, the Australian woods had probably contained as thick a jungle as those of New Zealand or America, instead of the open forests in which the white men now find grass for their cattle, to the exclusion of the kangaroo, which is well-known to forsake all those parts of the colony where cattle run. The intrusion therefore of cattle is by itself sufficient to produce the extirpation of the native race, by limiting their means of existence; and this must work such extensive changes in Australia as never entered into the contemplation of the local authorities. The squatters, it is true, have also been obliged to burn the old grass occasionally on their runs; but so little has this been understood by the Imperial Government that an order against the burning of the grass was once sent out, on the representations of a traveller in the south. The omission of the annual periodical burning by natives, of the grass and young saplings, has already produced in the open forest lands nearest to Sydney, thick forests of young trees, where, formerly, a man might gallop without impediment, and see whole miles before him. Kangaroos are no longer to be seen there; the grass is choked by underwood; neither are there natives to burn the grass, nor is fire longer desirable there amongst the fences of the settler. The occupation of the territory by the white race seems thus to involve, as an inevitable result, the extirpation of the aborigines; and it may well be pleaded, in extenuation of any adverse feelings these may show towards the white men, that these consequences, although so little considered by the intruders, must be obvious to the natives, with their usual acuteness, as soon as cattle enter on their territory. The foregoing journal affords instances of the habits of the natives in these respects. Silently, but surely, that extirpation of aborigines is going forward in grazing districts, even where protectors of aborigines have been most active; and in Van Diemen’s Land, the race has been extirpated, even before that of the kangaroos, under an agency still more destructive.
Major Thomas Mitchell 1846.
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
Tamb said:I’m confused.
Some years ago I flew West to the UK then more West to the US then more West to Honolulu and finally even more West to Australia. Did I somehow reverse direction at the international date line?There are literally tens of thousands of people like you who have a done a round-the-world trip.
Paid shills.
Our friendly FE’er said that one of his reasons to not believe in the sphere is that one day he watched a flight path tracker and sad he sat for hours and did not see one plane coming from the so called Southern Hemisphere… this is a clearly ridiculous claim because in the next scene one of the scientists was on the flight tracker and pointed out all the planes.. crossing the equator and heading back again… I mean confirmation bias is an incredible thing… we see it in the Trumpians (may his force remain strong) who fail to see or acknowledge the incompetence… they aren’t doing it because of attention, they truly believe.
anyway… someone else needs to watch the show so you don’t have to rely on my one viewing for info.
Peak Warming Man said:
There is no subject connected with New South Wales, or Australia, less understood in England than the character and condition of the aboriginal natives. They have been described as the lowest in the scale of humanity, yet I found those who accompanied me superior in penetration and judgment to the white men composing my party. Their means of subsistence and their habits, are both extremely simple; but they are adjusted with admirable fitness to the few resources afforded by such a country, in its wild state. What these resources are, and how they are economised by the natives, can only be learnt by an extensive acquaintance with the interior; and the knowledge of a few simple facts, bearing on this subject, may not be wholly devoid of interest. Fire, grass, kangaroos, and human inhabitants, seem all dependent on each other for existence in Australia; for any one of these being wanting, the others could no longer continue. Fire is necessary to burn the grass, and form those open forests, in which we find the large forest-kangaroo; the native applies that fire to the grass at certain seasons, in order that a young green crop may subsequently spring up, and so attract and enable him to kill or take the kangaroo with nets. In summer, the burning of long grass also discloses vermin, birds’ nests, etc., on which the females and children, who chiefly burn the grass, feed. But for this simple process, the Australian woods had probably contained as thick a jungle as those of New Zealand or America, instead of the open forests in which the white men now find grass for their cattle, to the exclusion of the kangaroo, which is well-known to forsake all those parts of the colony where cattle run. The intrusion therefore of cattle is by itself sufficient to produce the extirpation of the native race, by limiting their means of existence; and this must work such extensive changes in Australia as never entered into the contemplation of the local authorities. The squatters, it is true, have also been obliged to burn the old grass occasionally on their runs; but so little has this been understood by the Imperial Government that an order against the burning of the grass was once sent out, on the representations of a traveller in the south. The omission of the annual periodical burning by natives, of the grass and young saplings, has already produced in the open forest lands nearest to Sydney, thick forests of young trees, where, formerly, a man might gallop without impediment, and see whole miles before him. Kangaroos are no longer to be seen there; the grass is choked by underwood; neither are there natives to burn the grass, nor is fire longer desirable there amongst the fences of the settler. The occupation of the territory by the white race seems thus to involve, as an inevitable result, the extirpation of the aborigines; and it may well be pleaded, in extenuation of any adverse feelings these may show towards the white men, that these consequences, although so little considered by the intruders, must be obvious to the natives, with their usual acuteness, as soon as cattle enter on their territory. The foregoing journal affords instances of the habits of the natives in these respects. Silently, but surely, that extirpation of aborigines is going forward in grazing districts, even where protectors of aborigines have been most active; and in Van Diemen’s Land, the race has been extirpated, even before that of the kangaroos, under an agency still more destructive.Major Thomas Mitchell 1846.
Hmmmm.
Major Mitchell wrote some good stuff in his diaries.
Tonight’s dinner will be 1 x large loin pork chop, cooked with my usual Russo-Germanic sauerkraut mixture (fermented cabbage, carrot & horseradish + onion, garlic and a few caraway seeds), to be served with halved baby spuds, baked with a little olive oil, butter & lemon juice and a good shake of lemon pepper.
I think they should leave the Robert Towns statue up as a dreadful reminder of the ignorant and backward era when it was built which was (checks notes) 2005.
Bubblecar said:
Tonight’s dinner will be 1 x large loin pork chop, cooked with my usual Russo-Germanic sauerkraut mixture (fermented cabbage, carrot & horseradish + onion, garlic and a few caraway seeds), to be served with halved baby spuds, baked with a little olive oil, butter & lemon juice and a good shake of lemon pepper.
We are having tinned tomato soup with spaghetti and a sausage roll each. It’s all class here tonight.
Arts said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:There are literally tens of thousands of people like you who have a done a round-the-world trip.
Paid shills.
Our friendly FE’er said that one of his reasons to not believe in the sphere is that one day he watched a flight path tracker and sad he sat for hours and did not see one plane coming from the so called Southern Hemisphere… this is a clearly ridiculous claim because in the next scene one of the scientists was on the flight tracker and pointed out all the planes.. crossing the equator and heading back again… I mean confirmation bias is an incredible thing… we see it in the Trumpians (may his force remain strong) who fail to see or acknowledge the incompetence… they aren’t doing it because of attention, they truly believe.
How do they explain Australians and Kiwis and South Africans etc?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-11/bhp-halts-aboriginal-site-destruction-after-rio-tinto-protests/12345566
Good.
sibeen said:
Arts said:
sibeen said:Paid shills.
Our friendly FE’er said that one of his reasons to not believe in the sphere is that one day he watched a flight path tracker and sad he sat for hours and did not see one plane coming from the so called Southern Hemisphere… this is a clearly ridiculous claim because in the next scene one of the scientists was on the flight tracker and pointed out all the planes.. crossing the equator and heading back again… I mean confirmation bias is an incredible thing… we see it in the Trumpians (may his force remain strong) who fail to see or acknowledge the incompetence… they aren’t doing it because of attention, they truly believe.
How do they explain Australians and Kiwis and South Africans etc?
Gods.
That is all.
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
Tonight’s dinner will be 1 x large loin pork chop, cooked with my usual Russo-Germanic sauerkraut mixture (fermented cabbage, carrot & horseradish + onion, garlic and a few caraway seeds), to be served with halved baby spuds, baked with a little olive oil, butter & lemon juice and a good shake of lemon pepper.We are having tinned tomato soup with spaghetti and a sausage roll each. It’s all class here tonight.
:)
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
Tonight’s dinner will be 1 x large loin pork chop, cooked with my usual Russo-Germanic sauerkraut mixture (fermented cabbage, carrot & horseradish + onion, garlic and a few caraway seeds), to be served with halved baby spuds, baked with a little olive oil, butter & lemon juice and a good shake of lemon pepper.We are having tinned tomato soup with spaghetti and a sausage roll each. It’s all class here tonight.
We’ll be having sour soup: vegetables (cabbage, carrot, celery, fennel) with ground skippy wontons (kangaroo mince, lard, fennel, celery, spring onion, wonton wrapper), Chinese vegetable soup base, light soy sauce, chiankiang black vinegar and a few chopped chillies in my bowl.
Arts said:
anyway… someone else needs to watch the show so you don’t have to rely on my one viewing for info.
I’ve watched it. Said many of the same things here too.
“A court in Thailand has sentenced two owners of a restaurant to 1,446 years in prison each for defrauding the public.
Last year, Laemgate seafood restaurant launched a pay-in-advance food promotion online.
Up to 20,000 people purchased 50 million Thai baht (£1.2m; $1.6m) worth of vouchers, said broadcaster Thai PBS.
But the company later said it could not keep up with demand and shut down the restaurant.
Apichart Bowornbancharak and Prapassorn Bowornbancha were arrested after hundreds of people complained. “
Due for release in 3466 or sooner with good behaviour.
Peak Warming Man said:
“A court in Thailand has sentenced two owners of a restaurant to 1,446 years in prison each for defrauding the public.
Last year, Laemgate seafood restaurant launched a pay-in-advance food promotion online.
Up to 20,000 people purchased 50 million Thai baht (£1.2m; $1.6m) worth of vouchers, said broadcaster Thai PBS.
But the company later said it could not keep up with demand and shut down the restaurant.
Apichart Bowornbancharak and Prapassorn Bowornbancha were arrested after hundreds of people complained. “Due for release in 3466 or sooner with good behaviour.
Release?
Lock ‘em up and throw away the key, i says.
Peak Warming Man said:
“A court in Thailand has sentenced two owners of a restaurant to 1,446 years in prison each for defrauding the public.
Last year, Laemgate seafood restaurant launched a pay-in-advance food promotion online.
Up to 20,000 people purchased 50 million Thai baht (£1.2m; $1.6m) worth of vouchers, said broadcaster Thai PBS.
But the company later said it could not keep up with demand and shut down the restaurant.
Apichart Bowornbancharak and Prapassorn Bowornbancha were arrested after hundreds of people complained. “Due for release in 3466 or sooner with good behaviour.
This seems excessive
dv said:
I think they should leave the Robert Towns statue up as a dreadful reminder of the ignorant and backward era when it was built which was (checks notes) 2005.
all the statues that people have an issue with should be reinstalled upside down.
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
There is no subject connected with New South Wales, or Australia, less understood in England than the character and condition of the aboriginal natives. They have been described as the lowest in the scale of humanity, yet I found those who accompanied me superior in penetration and judgment to the white men composing my party. Their means of subsistence and their habits, are both extremely simple; but they are adjusted with admirable fitness to the few resources afforded by such a country, in its wild state. What these resources are, and how they are economised by the natives, can only be learnt by an extensive acquaintance with the interior; and the knowledge of a few simple facts, bearing on this subject, may not be wholly devoid of interest. Fire, grass, kangaroos, and human inhabitants, seem all dependent on each other for existence in Australia; for any one of these being wanting, the others could no longer continue. Fire is necessary to burn the grass, and form those open forests, in which we find the large forest-kangaroo; the native applies that fire to the grass at certain seasons, in order that a young green crop may subsequently spring up, and so attract and enable him to kill or take the kangaroo with nets. In summer, the burning of long grass also discloses vermin, birds’ nests, etc., on which the females and children, who chiefly burn the grass, feed. But for this simple process, the Australian woods had probably contained as thick a jungle as those of New Zealand or America, instead of the open forests in which the white men now find grass for their cattle, to the exclusion of the kangaroo, which is well-known to forsake all those parts of the colony where cattle run. The intrusion therefore of cattle is by itself sufficient to produce the extirpation of the native race, by limiting their means of existence; and this must work such extensive changes in Australia as never entered into the contemplation of the local authorities. The squatters, it is true, have also been obliged to burn the old grass occasionally on their runs; but so little has this been understood by the Imperial Government that an order against the burning of the grass was once sent out, on the representations of a traveller in the south. The omission of the annual periodical burning by natives, of the grass and young saplings, has already produced in the open forest lands nearest to Sydney, thick forests of young trees, where, formerly, a man might gallop without impediment, and see whole miles before him. Kangaroos are no longer to be seen there; the grass is choked by underwood; neither are there natives to burn the grass, nor is fire longer desirable there amongst the fences of the settler. The occupation of the territory by the white race seems thus to involve, as an inevitable result, the extirpation of the aborigines; and it may well be pleaded, in extenuation of any adverse feelings these may show towards the white men, that these consequences, although so little considered by the intruders, must be obvious to the natives, with their usual acuteness, as soon as cattle enter on their territory. The foregoing journal affords instances of the habits of the natives in these respects. Silently, but surely, that extirpation of aborigines is going forward in grazing districts, even where protectors of aborigines have been most active; and in Van Diemen’s Land, the race has been extirpated, even before that of the kangaroos, under an agency still more destructive.Major Thomas Mitchell 1846.
Hmmmm.
Major Mitchell wrote some good stuff in his diaries.
He was no galah
sibeen said:
Arts said:
sibeen said:Paid shills.
Our friendly FE’er said that one of his reasons to not believe in the sphere is that one day he watched a flight path tracker and sad he sat for hours and did not see one plane coming from the so called Southern Hemisphere… this is a clearly ridiculous claim because in the next scene one of the scientists was on the flight tracker and pointed out all the planes.. crossing the equator and heading back again… I mean confirmation bias is an incredible thing… we see it in the Trumpians (may his force remain strong) who fail to see or acknowledge the incompetence… they aren’t doing it because of attention, they truly believe.
How do they explain Australians and Kiwis and South Africans etc?
oh, that’s easy. they don’t.
Arts said:
dv said:
I think they should leave the Robert Towns statue up as a dreadful reminder of the ignorant and backward era when it was built which was (checks notes) 2005.
all the statues that people have an issue with should be reinstalled upside down.
And with an explanatory plaque as to why it is upside down.
Divine Angel said:
Arts said:
anyway… someone else needs to watch the show so you don’t have to rely on my one viewing for info.
I’ve watched it. Said many of the same things here too.
we really should coordinate our viewing better… and then we can do a podcast together
Peak Warming Man said:
There is no subject connected with New South Wales, or Australia, less understood in England than the character and condition of the aboriginal natives. They have been described as the lowest in the scale of humanity, yet I found those who accompanied me superior in penetration and judgment to the white men composing my party. Their means of subsistence and their habits, are both extremely simple; but they are adjusted with admirable fitness to the few resources afforded by such a country, in its wild state. What these resources are, and how they are economised by the natives, can only be learnt by an extensive acquaintance with the interior; and the knowledge of a few simple facts, bearing on this subject, may not be wholly devoid of interest. Fire, grass, kangaroos, and human inhabitants, seem all dependent on each other for existence in Australia; for any one of these being wanting, the others could no longer continue. Fire is necessary to burn the grass, and form those open forests, in which we find the large forest-kangaroo; the native applies that fire to the grass at certain seasons, in order that a young green crop may subsequently spring up, and so attract and enable him to kill or take the kangaroo with nets. In summer, the burning of long grass also discloses vermin, birds’ nests, etc., on which the females and children, who chiefly burn the grass, feed. But for this simple process, the Australian woods had probably contained as thick a jungle as those of New Zealand or America, instead of the open forests in which the white men now find grass for their cattle, to the exclusion of the kangaroo, which is well-known to forsake all those parts of the colony where cattle run. The intrusion therefore of cattle is by itself sufficient to produce the extirpation of the native race, by limiting their means of existence; and this must work such extensive changes in Australia as never entered into the contemplation of the local authorities. The squatters, it is true, have also been obliged to burn the old grass occasionally on their runs; but so little has this been understood by the Imperial Government that an order against the burning of the grass was once sent out, on the representations of a traveller in the south. The omission of the annual periodical burning by natives, of the grass and young saplings, has already produced in the open forest lands nearest to Sydney, thick forests of young trees, where, formerly, a man might gallop without impediment, and see whole miles before him. Kangaroos are no longer to be seen there; the grass is choked by underwood; neither are there natives to burn the grass, nor is fire longer desirable there amongst the fences of the settler. The occupation of the territory by the white race seems thus to involve, as an inevitable result, the extirpation of the aborigines; and it may well be pleaded, in extenuation of any adverse feelings these may show towards the white men, that these consequences, although so little considered by the intruders, must be obvious to the natives, with their usual acuteness, as soon as cattle enter on their territory. The foregoing journal affords instances of the habits of the natives in these respects. Silently, but surely, that extirpation of aborigines is going forward in grazing districts, even where protectors of aborigines have been most active; and in Van Diemen’s Land, the race has been extirpated, even before that of the kangaroos, under an agency still more destructive.Major Thomas Mitchell 1846.
Paragraphs are your friends.
Arts said:
sibeen said:
Arts said:Our friendly FE’er said that one of his reasons to not believe in the sphere is that one day he watched a flight path tracker and sad he sat for hours and did not see one plane coming from the so called Southern Hemisphere… this is a clearly ridiculous claim because in the next scene one of the scientists was on the flight tracker and pointed out all the planes.. crossing the equator and heading back again… I mean confirmation bias is an incredible thing… we see it in the Trumpians (may his force remain strong) who fail to see or acknowledge the incompetence… they aren’t doing it because of attention, they truly believe.
How do they explain Australians and Kiwis and South Africans etc?
oh, that’s easy. they don’t.
One conspiracy claims Australia doesn’t exist, not sure if it taking a laugh though
Arts said:
dv said:
I think they should leave the Robert Towns statue up as a dreadful reminder of the ignorant and backward era when it was built which was (checks notes) 2005.
all the statues that people have an issue with should be reinstalled upside down.
Birds would nest in their crotches.
Especially Pheasants.
Fire now going invitingly, so I’ll retire to the living room. But I’ll peep back in here at various moments as the evening unfolds.
Cymek said:
Arts said:
sibeen said:How do they explain Australians and Kiwis and South Africans etc?
oh, that’s easy. they don’t.
One conspiracy claims Australia doesn’t exist, not sure if it taking a laugh though
in the doco they include Australia in the flat earth model.
Rule 303 said:
Arts said:
dv said:
I think they should leave the Robert Towns statue up as a dreadful reminder of the ignorant and backward era when it was built which was (checks notes) 2005.
all the statues that people have an issue with should be reinstalled upside down.
Birds would nest in their crotches.
Especially Pheasants.
I have no problem with that
buffy said:
Arts said:
dv said:
I think they should leave the Robert Towns statue up as a dreadful reminder of the ignorant and backward era when it was built which was (checks notes) 2005.
all the statues that people have an issue with should be reinstalled upside down.
And with an explanatory plaque as to why it is upside down.
I suggest that the statues be left as they are, but additional plaques with information about the subjects’ less worthy history be added.
People can then weigh the information for themselves. The statues would serve a dual purpose of commemorating the subject’s positive achievements, but also pointing out that sometimes the road to those achievements was built on abhorrent practices.
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:
Arts said:all the statues that people have an issue with should be reinstalled upside down.
And with an explanatory plaque as to why it is upside down.
I suggest that the statues be left as they are, but additional plaques with information about the subjects’ less worthy history be added.
People can then weigh the information for themselves. The statues would serve a dual purpose of commemorating the subject’s positive achievements, but also pointing out that sometimes the road to those achievements was built on abhorrent practices.
+1.
Trying to erase history, anyone’s history, is not an ideal way to move forward.
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
There is no subject connected with New South Wales, or Australia, less understood in England than the character and condition of the aboriginal natives. They have been described as the lowest in the scale of humanity, yet I found those who accompanied me superior in penetration and judgment to the white men composing my party. Their means of subsistence and their habits, are both extremely simple; but they are adjusted with admirable fitness to the few resources afforded by such a country, in its wild state. What these resources are, and how they are economised by the natives, can only be learnt by an extensive acquaintance with the interior; and the knowledge of a few simple facts, bearing on this subject, may not be wholly devoid of interest. Fire, grass, kangaroos, and human inhabitants, seem all dependent on each other for existence in Australia; for any one of these being wanting, the others could no longer continue. Fire is necessary to burn the grass, and form those open forests, in which we find the large forest-kangaroo; the native applies that fire to the grass at certain seasons, in order that a young green crop may subsequently spring up, and so attract and enable him to kill or take the kangaroo with nets. In summer, the burning of long grass also discloses vermin, birds’ nests, etc., on which the females and children, who chiefly burn the grass, feed. But for this simple process, the Australian woods had probably contained as thick a jungle as those of New Zealand or America, instead of the open forests in which the white men now find grass for their cattle, to the exclusion of the kangaroo, which is well-known to forsake all those parts of the colony where cattle run. The intrusion therefore of cattle is by itself sufficient to produce the extirpation of the native race, by limiting their means of existence; and this must work such extensive changes in Australia as never entered into the contemplation of the local authorities. The squatters, it is true, have also been obliged to burn the old grass occasionally on their runs; but so little has this been understood by the Imperial Government that an order against the burning of the grass was once sent out, on the representations of a traveller in the south. The omission of the annual periodical burning by natives, of the grass and young saplings, has already produced in the open forest lands nearest to Sydney, thick forests of young trees, where, formerly, a man might gallop without impediment, and see whole miles before him. Kangaroos are no longer to be seen there; the grass is choked by underwood; neither are there natives to burn the grass, nor is fire longer desirable there amongst the fences of the settler. The occupation of the territory by the white race seems thus to involve, as an inevitable result, the extirpation of the aborigines; and it may well be pleaded, in extenuation of any adverse feelings these may show towards the white men, that these consequences, although so little considered by the intruders, must be obvious to the natives, with their usual acuteness, as soon as cattle enter on their territory. The foregoing journal affords instances of the habits of the natives in these respects. Silently, but surely, that extirpation of aborigines is going forward in grazing districts, even where protectors of aborigines have been most active; and in Van Diemen’s Land, the race has been extirpated, even before that of the kangaroos, under an agency still more destructive.Major Thomas Mitchell 1846.
Hmmmm.
Major Mitchell wrote some good stuff in his diaries.
I’m reading his journal.
The party consisted of – Note second in command.
SIR T. L. MITCHELL, Kt., Surveyor General, Chief of the Expedition.
EDMUND B. KENNEDY, Esq. Assistant Surveyor, Second in command.
W. STEPHENSON, M.R.C.S.L. Surgeon and Collector of objects of Natural History.
PETER M’AVOY, Mounted Videttes.
Charles Niblett,
William Graham,
ANTHONY BROWN, Tent-keeper.
WILLIAM BALDOCK, In charge of the horses.
John Waugh Drysdale, Store-keeper.
Allan Bond, Bullock-drivers.
Edward Taylor,
William Bond,
William Mortimer,
George Allcot,
John Slater,
Richard Horton,
Felix Maguire,
James Stephens, Carpenters.
Job Stanley,
Edward Wilson, Blacksmith.
George Fowkes, Shoemaker.
John Douglas, Barometer carrier.
Isaac Reid, Sailor and Chainman.
Andrew Higgs, Chainman.
William Hunter, With the horses.
Thomas Smith,
Patrick Travers, Carter and Pioneer.
Douglas Arnott, Shepherd and Butcher.
Arthur Bristol, Sailmaker and Sailor.
8 drays, drawn by 80 bullocks; 2 boats; 13 horses; 4 private do.; and 3
light carts, comprised the means of conveyance; and the party was
provided with provisions for a year:—250 sheep (to travel with the
party), constituting the chief part of the animal food. The rest consisted
of gelatine, and a small quantity of pork.
Speedy said:
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:And with an explanatory plaque as to why it is upside down.
I suggest that the statues be left as they are, but additional plaques with information about the subjects’ less worthy history be added.
People can then weigh the information for themselves. The statues would serve a dual purpose of commemorating the subject’s positive achievements, but also pointing out that sometimes the road to those achievements was built on abhorrent practices.
+1.
Trying to erase history, anyone’s history, is not an ideal way to move forward.
Yes. Obliterating people who made some progress for us is a path to ignorance and denial.
I see the real problem as being that only part of the stories of some of them has been promoted. There’s no reason why that part of their history can’t be acknowledged, but with their story expanded to give a better picture of them, warts and all if necessary.
Speedy said:
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:And with an explanatory plaque as to why it is upside down.
I suggest that the statues be left as they are, but additional plaques with information about the subjects’ less worthy history be added.
People can then weigh the information for themselves. The statues would serve a dual purpose of commemorating the subject’s positive achievements, but also pointing out that sometimes the road to those achievements was built on abhorrent practices.
+1.
Trying to erase history, anyone’s history, is not an ideal way to move forward.
Right but no one would argue that removing a statue erases history
dv said:
Speedy said:
captain_spalding said:I suggest that the statues be left as they are, but additional plaques with information about the subjects’ less worthy history be added.
People can then weigh the information for themselves. The statues would serve a dual purpose of commemorating the subject’s positive achievements, but also pointing out that sometimes the road to those achievements was built on abhorrent practices.
+1.
Trying to erase history, anyone’s history, is not an ideal way to move forward.
Right but no one would argue that removing a statue erases history
It’s not a great step from there to claiming that any mention of those people’s achievements is an affront, and to demands that they be erased from the historical record.
‘Airbrushed out’, just as people were removed from photos when they fell out of favour in Stalin’s Russia.
Footy’s back tonight.
Pies Vs Tigers, Hawks Vs Cats.
I’ve got a training webinar in the middle of the first game: Drones.
F’n drones…
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:
Arts said:all the statues that people have an issue with should be reinstalled upside down.
And with an explanatory plaque as to why it is upside down.
I suggest that the statues be left as they are, but additional plaques with information about the subjects’ less worthy history be added.
People can then weigh the information for themselves. The statues would serve a dual purpose of commemorating the subject’s positive achievements, but also pointing out that sometimes the road to those achievements was built on abhorrent practices.
I wonder which plaque would be bigger
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
Speedy said:+1.
Trying to erase history, anyone’s history, is not an ideal way to move forward.
Right but no one would argue that removing a statue erases history
It’s not a great step from there to claiming that any mention of those people’s achievements is an affront, and to demands that they be erased from the historical record.
‘Airbrushed out’, just as people were removed from photos when they fell out of favour in Stalin’s Russia.
funnily enough somehow we know there were people there before it
dv said:
Speedy said:
captain_spalding said:I suggest that the statues be left as they are, but additional plaques with information about the subjects’ less worthy history be added.
People can then weigh the information for themselves. The statues would serve a dual purpose of commemorating the subject’s positive achievements, but also pointing out that sometimes the road to those achievements was built on abhorrent practices.
+1.
Trying to erase history, anyone’s history, is not an ideal way to move forward.
Right but no one would argue that removing a statue erases history
It might, if the statue misrepresented the facts.
Speedy said:
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:And with an explanatory plaque as to why it is upside down.
I suggest that the statues be left as they are, but additional plaques with information about the subjects’ less worthy history be added.
People can then weigh the information for themselves. The statues would serve a dual purpose of commemorating the subject’s positive achievements, but also pointing out that sometimes the road to those achievements was built on abhorrent practices.
+1.
Trying to erase history, anyone’s history, is not an ideal way to move forward.
they are still there.. just upside down… and, apparently, nesting sites for pheasants.
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
Speedy said:+1.
Trying to erase history, anyone’s history, is not an ideal way to move forward.
Right but no one would argue that removing a statue erases history
It’s not a great step from there to claiming that any mention of those people’s achievements is an affront, and to demands that they be erased from the historical record.
‘Airbrushed out’, just as people were removed from photos when they fell out of favour in Stalin’s Russia.
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
Speedy said:+1.
Trying to erase history, anyone’s history, is not an ideal way to move forward.
Right but no one would argue that removing a statue erases history
It’s not a great step from there to claiming that any mention of those people’s achievements is an affront, and to demands that they be erased from the historical record.
‘Airbrushed out’, just as people were removed from photos when they fell out of favour in Stalin’s Russia.
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
Speedy said:+1.
Trying to erase history, anyone’s history, is not an ideal way to move forward.
Right but no one would argue that removing a statue erases history
It’s not a great step from there to claiming that any mention of those people’s achievements is an affront, and to demands that they be erased from the historical record.
‘Airbrushed out’, just as people were removed from photos when they fell out of favour in Stalin’s Russia.
That’s my issue with it. PWM mentioned Washington the other day. Arts replied that he freed his slave but that was after his death. So someone will eventually be after him and Mt Rushmore gets a chiseling.
Anyone want to watch a Webinar about Drones and take notes?
I’ll pay money….
sibeen said:
captain_spalding said:
dv said:Right but no one would argue that removing a statue erases history
It’s not a great step from there to claiming that any mention of those people’s achievements is an affront, and to demands that they be erased from the historical record.
‘Airbrushed out’, just as people were removed from photos when they fell out of favour in Stalin’s Russia.
That’s my issue with it. PWM mentioned Washington the other day. Arts replied that he freed his slave but that was after his death. So someone will eventually be after him and Mt Rushmore gets a chiseling.
they should reinstall Mt Rushmore upside down.
Arts said:
Cymek said:
Arts said:oh, that’s easy. they don’t.
One conspiracy claims Australia doesn’t exist, not sure if it taking a laugh though
in the doco they include Australia in the flat earth model.
SPLITTERS!
Rule 303 said:
Anyone want to watch a Webinar about Drones and take notes?I’ll pay money….
Oh I’ll take your money, but I’m NOT watching the Webinar.
sibeen said:
captain_spalding said:
dv said:Right but no one would argue that removing a statue erases history
It’s not a great step from there to claiming that any mention of those people’s achievements is an affront, and to demands that they be erased from the historical record.
‘Airbrushed out’, just as people were removed from photos when they fell out of favour in Stalin’s Russia.
That’s my issue with it. PWM mentioned Washington the other day. Arts replied that he freed his slave but that was after his death. So someone will eventually be after him and Mt Rushmore gets a chiseling.
I’m surprised Trump hasn’t had it re-made in his own hatefulness already.
dv said:
captain_spalding said:
dv said:Right but no one would argue that removing a statue erases history
It’s not a great step from there to claiming that any mention of those people’s achievements is an affront, and to demands that they be erased from the historical record.
‘Airbrushed out’, just as people were removed from photos when they fell out of favour in Stalin’s Russia.
Well yeah, it is a great step, one that’s never ever happened. No one forgot Hitler or Stalin just because they took their statues down.
apparently they have, isn’t that how we ended up in the world situation we have
dv said:
Rule 303 said:
Anyone want to watch a Webinar about Drones and take notes?I’ll pay money….
Oh I’ll take your money, but I’m NOT watching the Webinar.
But Aerosondes!
C’mon man…
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:
captain_spalding said:It’s not a great step from there to claiming that any mention of those people’s achievements is an affront, and to demands that they be erased from the historical record.
‘Airbrushed out’, just as people were removed from photos when they fell out of favour in Stalin’s Russia.
That’s my issue with it. PWM mentioned Washington the other day. Arts replied that he freed his slave but that was after his death. So someone will eventually be after him and Mt Rushmore gets a chiseling.
I’m surprised Trump hasn’t had it re-made in his own hatefulness already.
all you need to do is wait another 40000 years and someone will want the ore underneath it
The Colston statue has already been retrieved from Bristol Harbour and will be set up in a museum somewhere, bearing all the marks of its history, including its recent satisfying dunking.
Rule 303 said:
dv said:
Rule 303 said:
Anyone want to watch a Webinar about Drones and take notes?I’ll pay money….
Oh I’ll take your money, but I’m NOT watching the Webinar.
But Aerosondes!
C’mon man…
I suggest you watch it for the greater good of PWM, I want one with a range of say 2k plus a time over target of say 5 minutes and a auto return to base when limit of flight metrics indicate it must return.
Oh an a ceiling of say 300 feet.
Could you also get a price for one that meets those specs.
You can watch the football on replay tomorrow.
That’ll be great thanks.
rubs hands
Arts said:
Divine Angel said:
Arts said:
anyway… someone else needs to watch the show so you don’t have to rely on my one viewing for info.
I’ve watched it. Said many of the same things here too.
we really should coordinate our viewing better… and then we can do a podcast together
I have a feeling our podcast would tangent onto cocktail recipes…
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:
dv said:I don’t get the reference
The Ballad of Lucy Jordan.
It seems I have avoided hearing this song up ‘till now.
strange.
dv said:
captain_spalding said:
dv said:Right but no one would argue that removing a statue erases history
It’s not a great step from there to claiming that any mention of those people’s achievements is an affront, and to demands that they be erased from the historical record.
‘Airbrushed out’, just as people were removed from photos when they fell out of favour in Stalin’s Russia.
Well yeah, it is a great step, one that’s never ever happened. No one forgot Hitler or Stalin just because they took their statues down.
Or the Colossus of Rhodes.
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
There is no subject connected with New South Wales, or Australia, less understood in England than the character and condition of the aboriginal natives. They have been described as the lowest in the scale of humanity, yet I found those who accompanied me superior in penetration and judgment to the white men composing my party. Their means of subsistence and their habits, are both extremely simple; but they are adjusted with admirable fitness to the few resources afforded by such a country, in its wild state. What these resources are, and how they are economised by the natives, can only be learnt by an extensive acquaintance with the interior; and the knowledge of a few simple facts, bearing on this subject, may not be wholly devoid of interest. Fire, grass, kangaroos, and human inhabitants, seem all dependent on each other for existence in Australia; for any one of these being wanting, the others could no longer continue. Fire is necessary to burn the grass, and form those open forests, in which we find the large forest-kangaroo; the native applies that fire to the grass at certain seasons, in order that a young green crop may subsequently spring up, and so attract and enable him to kill or take the kangaroo with nets. In summer, the burning of long grass also discloses vermin, birds’ nests, etc., on which the females and children, who chiefly burn the grass, feed. But for this simple process, the Australian woods had probably contained as thick a jungle as those of New Zealand or America, instead of the open forests in which the white men now find grass for their cattle, to the exclusion of the kangaroo, which is well-known to forsake all those parts of the colony where cattle run. The intrusion therefore of cattle is by itself sufficient to produce the extirpation of the native race, by limiting their means of existence; and this must work such extensive changes in Australia as never entered into the contemplation of the local authorities. The squatters, it is true, have also been obliged to burn the old grass occasionally on their runs; but so little has this been understood by the Imperial Government that an order against the burning of the grass was once sent out, on the representations of a traveller in the south. The omission of the annual periodical burning by natives, of the grass and young saplings, has already produced in the open forest lands nearest to Sydney, thick forests of young trees, where, formerly, a man might gallop without impediment, and see whole miles before him. Kangaroos are no longer to be seen there; the grass is choked by underwood; neither are there natives to burn the grass, nor is fire longer desirable there amongst the fences of the settler. The occupation of the territory by the white race seems thus to involve, as an inevitable result, the extirpation of the aborigines; and it may well be pleaded, in extenuation of any adverse feelings these may show towards the white men, that these consequences, although so little considered by the intruders, must be obvious to the natives, with their usual acuteness, as soon as cattle enter on their territory. The foregoing journal affords instances of the habits of the natives in these respects. Silently, but surely, that extirpation of aborigines is going forward in grazing districts, even where protectors of aborigines have been most active; and in Van Diemen’s Land, the race has been extirpated, even before that of the kangaroos, under an agency still more destructive.Major Thomas Mitchell 1846.
Hmmmm.
Major Mitchell wrote some good stuff in his diaries.
I’m reading his journal.
The party consisted of – Note second in command.
SIR T. L. MITCHELL, Kt., Surveyor General, Chief of the Expedition.
EDMUND B. KENNEDY, Esq. Assistant Surveyor, Second in command.
W. STEPHENSON, M.R.C.S.L. Surgeon and Collector of objects of Natural History.
PETER M’AVOY, Mounted Videttes.
Charles Niblett,
William Graham,
ANTHONY BROWN, Tent-keeper.
WILLIAM BALDOCK, In charge of the horses.
John Waugh Drysdale, Store-keeper.
Allan Bond, Bullock-drivers.
Edward Taylor,
William Bond,
William Mortimer,
George Allcot,
John Slater,
Richard Horton,
Felix Maguire,
James Stephens, Carpenters.
Job Stanley,
Edward Wilson, Blacksmith.
George Fowkes, Shoemaker.
John Douglas, Barometer carrier.
Isaac Reid, Sailor and Chainman.
Andrew Higgs, Chainman.
William Hunter, With the horses.
Thomas Smith,
Patrick Travers, Carter and Pioneer.
Douglas Arnott, Shepherd and Butcher.
Arthur Bristol, Sailmaker and Sailor.8 drays, drawn by 80 bullocks; 2 boats; 13 horses; 4 private do.; and 3
light carts, comprised the means of conveyance; and the party was
provided with provisions for a year:—250 sheep (to travel with the
party), constituting the chief part of the animal food. The rest consisted
of gelatine, and a small quantity of pork.
The party consisted of – Note second in command.
EDMUND B. KENNEDY, Esq. Assistant Surveyor, Second in command.
Noted. But why?
sibeen said:
captain_spalding said:
dv said:Right but no one would argue that removing a statue erases history
It’s not a great step from there to claiming that any mention of those people’s achievements is an affront, and to demands that they be erased from the historical record.
‘Airbrushed out’, just as people were removed from photos when they fell out of favour in Stalin’s Russia.
That’s my issue with it. PWM mentioned Washington the other day. Arts replied that he freed his slave but that was after his death. So someone will eventually be after him and Mt Rushmore gets a chiseling.
Imagine the riots then! How dare someone desecrate ye lord Washington!
Divine Angel said:
sibeen said:
captain_spalding said:It’s not a great step from there to claiming that any mention of those people’s achievements is an affront, and to demands that they be erased from the historical record.
‘Airbrushed out’, just as people were removed from photos when they fell out of favour in Stalin’s Russia.
That’s my issue with it. PWM mentioned Washington the other day. Arts replied that he freed his slave but that was after his death. So someone will eventually be after him and Mt Rushmore gets a chiseling.
Imagine the riots then! How dare someone desecrate ye lord Washington!
I thought it was Jefferson that was the moral dilemma.
sarahs mum said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:The Ballad of Lucy Jordan.
It seems I have avoided hearing this song up ‘till now.
strange.
I’ve never heard it either. IIRC.
Divine Angel said:
Arts said:
Divine Angel said:I’ve watched it. Said many of the same things here too.
we really should coordinate our viewing better… and then we can do a podcast together
I have a feeling our podcast would tangent onto cocktail recipes…
we could call it docos and cocktails.
sarahs mum said:
Divine Angel said:
sibeen said:That’s my issue with it. PWM mentioned Washington the other day. Arts replied that he freed his slave but that was after his death. So someone will eventually be after him and Mt Rushmore gets a chiseling.
Imagine the riots then! How dare someone desecrate ye lord Washington!
I thought it was Jefferson that was the moral dilemma.
I admit I’m not up on the lives and politics of early American presidents. Ask me about how they died though.
Divine Angel said:
dv said:
captain_spalding said:It’s not a great step from there to claiming that any mention of those people’s achievements is an affront, and to demands that they be erased from the historical record.
‘Airbrushed out’, just as people were removed from photos when they fell out of favour in Stalin’s Russia.
Well yeah, it is a great step, one that’s never ever happened. No one forgot Hitler or Stalin just because they took their statues down.
Or the Colossus of Rhodes.
!! but we did forget to include it until your suggestion
SCIENCE said:
Divine Angel said:
dv said:Well yeah, it is a great step, one that’s never ever happened. No one forgot Hitler or Stalin just because they took their statues down.
Or the Colossus of Rhodes.
!! but we did forget to include it until your suggestion
Lucky I was here then.
Divine Angel said:
SCIENCE said:
Divine Angel said:Or the Colossus of Rhodes.
!! but we did forget to include it until your suggestion
Lucky I was here then.
true
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
I think the next Doctor Who audio play I’ll hear is The Home Guard. It’s a 2nd Doctor story with Jamie, Ben, Polly, and The Master, set in WW2. Polly and Jamie are played by their original players (Anneke Wills and Frazer Hines). The actor who originally played Ben (Michael Craze) has died so that’s been recast. Obviously Patrick Troughton is also dead, but surprisingly Frazer Hines is also voicing the 2nd Doctor. This seemed like a ridiculous idea but having heard the trailer, Hines does quite a good Troughton impersonation.
Ha. I do quite a good Patrick Troughton when I’m in the mood.
Hard to imagine Jamie doing him but he’s a very seasoned actor.
Quite a decent story, it was.
One of the supporting characters was voiced by Brian Murphy of George and Mildred fame so there you go.
SCIENCE said:
Divine Angel said:
dv said:Well yeah, it is a great step, one that’s never ever happened. No one forgot Hitler or Stalin just because they took their statues down.
Or the Colossus of Rhodes.
!! but we did forget to include it until your suggestion
And who will remember the aboriginal pre-colonial inhabitants after mining companies blow up their long buried rubbish dumps?
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
The Rev Dodgson said:It seems I have avoided hearing this song up ‘till now.
strange.
I’ve never heard it either. IIRC.
How is this possible? It was on ‘Ab Fab’!
I could understand if you’d never heard The Infanticide of Marie Ferrar though.
sarahs mum said:
Divine Angel said:
sibeen said:That’s my issue with it. PWM mentioned Washington the other day. Arts replied that he freed his slave but that was after his death. So someone will eventually be after him and Mt Rushmore gets a chiseling.
Imagine the riots then! How dare someone desecrate ye lord Washington!
I thought it was Jefferson that was the moral dilemma.
Issue being that nearly everyone has feet of clay if you dig down deeply enough and you can be guaranteed that someone will be able to find offense at even the purest of souls.
Shape-wear that has been shaped with photoshop!

Good Evening…
monkey skipper said:
Shape-wear that has been shaped with photoshop!
are you sure?
dv said:
monkey skipper said:
Shape-wear that has been shaped with photoshop!
are you sure?
There hip transition is odd
dv said:
monkey skipper said:
Shape-wear that has been shaped with photoshop!
are you sure?
Well if it isn’t, she sure puts Kim Kardashian’s backside to shame and that ain’t easy.
It is getting closer to being Sunday.
dv said:
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
I think the next Doctor Who audio play I’ll hear is The Home Guard. It’s a 2nd Doctor story with Jamie, Ben, Polly, and The Master, set in WW2. Polly and Jamie are played by their original players (Anneke Wills and Frazer Hines). The actor who originally played Ben (Michael Craze) has died so that’s been recast. Obviously Patrick Troughton is also dead, but surprisingly Frazer Hines is also voicing the 2nd Doctor. This seemed like a ridiculous idea but having heard the trailer, Hines does quite a good Troughton impersonation.
Ha. I do quite a good Patrick Troughton when I’m in the mood.
Hard to imagine Jamie doing him but he’s a very seasoned actor.
Quite a decent story, it was.
One of the supporting characters was voiced by Brian Murphy of George and Mildred fame so there you go.
He’s even older than Tom Baker :)
monkey skipper said:
It is getting closer to being Sunday.
What do you have lined up for Sunday?
Bubblecar said:
monkey skipper said:
It is getting closer to being Sunday.
What do you have lined up for Sunday?
Day of R&R…oh…and…I get to pick up a new work desk as well. I compact size that will fit well with the adjustable desktop.
The nook is small so.. I had to search for a while to find the correct size
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Bubblecar said:Ha. I do quite a good Patrick Troughton when I’m in the mood.
Hard to imagine Jamie doing him but he’s a very seasoned actor.
Quite a decent story, it was.
One of the supporting characters was voiced by Brian Murphy of George and Mildred fame so there you go.
He’s even older than Tom Baker :)
And a very good actor, unfairly tarred by his TV sitcom work.
monkey skipper said:
Bubblecar said:
monkey skipper said:
It is getting closer to being Sunday.
What do you have lined up for Sunday?
Day of R&R…oh…and…I get to pick up a new work desk as well. I compact size that will fit well with the adjustable desktop.
Jolly good.
I have a new reading lamp on its way, to illuminate the living room reading armchair from above.
Neophyte said:
Bubblecar said:
dv said:Quite a decent story, it was.
One of the supporting characters was voiced by Brian Murphy of George and Mildred fame so there you go.
He’s even older than Tom Baker :)
And a very good actor, unfairly tarred by his TV sitcom work.
But he was good in the sitcom work, too.
Woman Convinces Merriam-Webster To Update Definition Of Racism | Rachel Maddow | MSNBC
6:49
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XTlrufsrOI
Bubblecar said:
monkey skipper said:
Bubblecar said:What do you have lined up for Sunday?
Day of R&R…oh…and…I get to pick up a new work desk as well. I compact size that will fit well with the adjustable desktop.
Jolly good.
I have a new reading lamp on its way, to illuminate the living room reading armchair from above.
Leadlight style?
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Bubblecar said:Ha. I do quite a good Patrick Troughton when I’m in the mood.
Hard to imagine Jamie doing him but he’s a very seasoned actor.
Quite a decent story, it was.
One of the supporting characters was voiced by Brian Murphy of George and Mildred fame so there you go.
He’s even older than Tom Baker :)
I mean he looked old as fuck in Man About The House when I was 5 years old so he’s seriously eyeing the ton by now
Talking of 1970s Britcoms, here’s Richard O’Sullivan (right) of Man About the House & Robin’s Nest etc, snapped last year with George Layton who appeared in It Ain’t Half Hot Mum amongst other stuff.
Richard (now 76) is actually looking a bit perkier than he did in snaps from earlier this century. He suffered a stroke in 2003 and has lived in an actors’ retirement home since then.

dv said:
Bubblecar said:
dv said:Quite a decent story, it was.
One of the supporting characters was voiced by Brian Murphy of George and Mildred fame so there you go.
He’s even older than Tom Baker :)
I mean he looked old as fuck in Man About The House when I was 5 years old so he’s seriously eyeing the ton by now
He was 41 when Man About The House began.
sarahs mum said:
Woman Convinces Merriam-Webster To Update Definition Of Racism | Rachel Maddow | MSNBC6:49
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XTlrufsrOI
Yeah, there is nothing wrong with demanding definition changes to suit political views, at all…
Bubblecar said:
Talking of 1970s Britcoms, here’s Richard O’Sullivan (right) of Man About the House & Robin’s Nest etc, snapped last year with George Layton who appeared in It Ain’t Half Hot Mum amongst other stuff.Richard (now 76) is actually looking a bit perkier than he did in snaps from earlier this century. He suffered a stroke in 2003 and has lived in an actors’ retirement home since then.
Well there it is.
The Home Guard was somewhat influenced by Dad’s Army.
monkey skipper said:
Bubblecar said:
monkey skipper said:Day of R&R…oh…and…I get to pick up a new work desk as well. I compact size that will fit well with the adjustable desktop.
Jolly good.
I have a new reading lamp on its way, to illuminate the living room reading armchair from above.
Leadlight style?
Aye. It will sit on the big old dresser above the reading armchair.

Bubblecar said:
Talking of 1970s Britcoms, here’s Richard O’Sullivan (right) of Man About the House & Robin’s Nest etc, snapped last year with George Layton who appeared in It Ain’t Half Hot Mum amongst other stuff.Richard (now 76) is actually looking a bit perkier than he did in snaps from earlier this century. He suffered a stroke in 2003 and has lived in an actors’ retirement home since then.
Speaking of which, Paul Mercurio is running for election to the local shire here.
I believe his current plan is to hold public meetings to find out whether he’s got any policies or not.
furious said:
sarahs mum said:
Woman Convinces Merriam-Webster To Update Definition Of Racism | Rachel Maddow | MSNBC6:49
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XTlrufsrOI
Yeah, there is nothing wrong with demanding definition changes to suit political views, at all…
I’m sure they bowed their will to a young female black American so she could readily justify her arguments.
Rule 303 said:
Bubblecar said:
Talking of 1970s Britcoms, here’s Richard O’Sullivan (right) of Man About the House & Robin’s Nest etc, snapped last year with George Layton who appeared in It Ain’t Half Hot Mum amongst other stuff.Richard (now 76) is actually looking a bit perkier than he did in snaps from earlier this century. He suffered a stroke in 2003 and has lived in an actors’ retirement home since then.
Speaking of which, Paul Mercurio is running for election to the local shire here.
I believe his current plan is to hold public meetings to find out whether he’s got any policies or not.
You don’t need to have policies of your own to successfully represent your community.
Imagine finding this shedding gecko :)
Speedy said:
Imagine finding this shedding gecko :)
:)
Looks like he’s wearing an expensive ski suit.
Peak Warming Man said:
Rule 303 said:
But Aerosondes!C’mon man…
I suggest you watch it for the greater good of PWM, I want one with a range of say 2k plus a time over target of say 5 minutes and a auto return to base when limit of flight metrics indicate it must return.
Oh an a ceiling of say 300 feet.
Could you also get a price for one that meets those specs.
You can watch the football on replay tomorrow.
That’ll be great thanks.
rubs hands
FTR, I think those capacities sound pretty normal for a high-end toy drone, but you wont be able to fly it like that because it’s gotta be within visual range.
Hooray, somebody stuffed up the link for the LiveStream thing!
Woooo!
sarahs mum said:
furious said:
sarahs mum said:
Woman Convinces Merriam-Webster To Update Definition Of Racism | Rachel Maddow | MSNBC6:49
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XTlrufsrOI
Yeah, there is nothing wrong with demanding definition changes to suit political views, at all…
I’m sure they bowed their will to a young female black American so she could readily justify her arguments.
To be clear: dictionaries update their entries because of changes in meaning. The concept of systemic racism is a common one now: it’s reasonable that their entry reflects current usage.
Canberra public servants charged with conspiring to defraud Australian Government
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-11/public-servants-charged-with-conspiring-to-defraud-government/12344164
What if Canberra public servants are behind cash injections of hundreds of millions of dollars to previously unheard of conservation groups?
What if Canberra public servants are behind cash injections of another hundred million dollars to sports clubs run by their mates?
Rule 303 said:
Hooray, somebody stuffed up the link for the LiveStream thing!Woooo!
Aaaahhhh… They’ve fixed it.
:-(
dv said:
sarahs mum said:
furious said:Yeah, there is nothing wrong with demanding definition changes to suit political views, at all…
I’m sure they bowed their will to a young female black American so she could readily justify her arguments.
To be clear: dictionaries update their entries because of changes in meaning. The concept of systemic racism is a common one now: it’s reasonable that their entry reflects current usage.
Thank you for the clarity.
Speedy said:
Imagine finding this shedding gecko :)
I posted that weeks ago, captain weeks ago. :)
Netflix has also pulled a number of Chris Lilley shows overnight because of racial depictions, according to Aunty.
I’ve never really enjoyed Lilley’s stuff. I just don’t find him funny. Never really been comfortable with his ethnic stereotyping, either. Reminds me of black-face.
Hmmmm… Dunno.
Rule 303 said:
Netflix has also pulled a number of Chris Lilley shows overnight because of racial depictions, according to Aunty.I’ve never really enjoyed Lilley’s stuff. I just don’t find him funny. Never really been comfortable with his ethnic stereotyping, either. Reminds me of black-face.
Hmmmm… Dunno.
I enjoyed his Mr D character from Summer Height High, but I think that’s because I could totally relate to the teacher stereotype having suffered almost a decade as a high school teacher with people just like that… but I thought Ja’mae (whatever) and the other characters were terrible. I also watched we can be heroes, enjoyed the concept more than the delivery… I actually think he has a great deal of talent, but it’s misdirected.. which is a shame…
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Bubblecar said:Ha. I do quite a good Patrick Troughton when I’m in the mood.
Hard to imagine Jamie doing him but he’s a very seasoned actor.
Quite a decent story, it was.
One of the supporting characters was voiced by Brian Murphy of George and Mildred fame so there you go.
He’s even older than Tom Baker :)
The Master was voiced by James Dreyfus whom you might know from The Thin Blue Line and Gimme Gimme Gimme. This is an early Master incarnation, some time before the Delgado jobby.
I’m watching youtubes about Huxley. He was adopted by youtubers and from the time the idea was formed to adopt a kid from China his life has been blogged and monetised. They knew he was autistic. But after a few years he was deemed too hard and so they sent him back to be rehomed but kept the money.
sarahs mum said:
I’m watching youtubes about Huxley. He was adopted by youtubers and from the time the idea was formed to adopt a kid from China his life has been blogged and monetised. They knew he was autistic. But after a few years he was deemed too hard and so they sent him back to be rehomed but kept the money.
yeah.. that’s fucked up in so many ways… I got mad at my sister once many years ago for rehoming a dog they considered ‘too hard to train’…
sarahs mum said:
I’m watching youtubes about Huxley. He was adopted by youtubers and from the time the idea was formed to adopt a kid from China his life has been blogged and monetised. They knew he was autistic. But after a few years he was deemed too hard and so they sent him back to be rehomed but kept the money.
what’s all this then?
though, legal aside, the consumers cannot be held blameless surely
dv said:
sarahs mum said:
I’m watching youtubes about Huxley. He was adopted by youtubers and from the time the idea was formed to adopt a kid from China his life has been blogged and monetised. They knew he was autistic. But after a few years he was deemed too hard and so they sent him back to be rehomed but kept the money.
what’s all this then?
i’ll tell you more as I work it out.
sarahs mum said:
I’m watching youtubes about Huxley. He was adopted by youtubers and from the time the idea was formed to adopt a kid from China his life has been blogged and monetised. They knew he was autistic. But after a few years he was deemed too hard and so they sent him back to be rehomed but kept the money.
Oh I read about that. M-fkers.
Divine Angel said:
sarahs mum said:
I’m watching youtubes about Huxley. He was adopted by youtubers and from the time the idea was formed to adopt a kid from China his life has been blogged and monetised. They knew he was autistic. But after a few years he was deemed too hard and so they sent him back to be rehomed but kept the money.
Oh I read about that. M-fkers.
Okay I’ve caught up.
(Adds names to list)
Finally got a chance to redeem a birthday present (voucher) today, so I’m test-driving this for FNDC:

Conclusion – Extra good. Worth a crack.
dv said:
Divine Angel said:
sarahs mum said:
I’m watching youtubes about Huxley. He was adopted by youtubers and from the time the idea was formed to adopt a kid from China his life has been blogged and monetised. They knew he was autistic. But after a few years he was deemed too hard and so they sent him back to be rehomed but kept the money.
Oh I read about that. M-fkers.
Okay I’ve caught up.
(Adds names to list)
short v version is that some influencers (whatever that means) adopted a child who has autism.. this won them many followers. and they now are ‘rehoming’ the child because they say that it’s the best thing for everyone… although the child is kind of young and probably not up for a conversation about the rest of his life… however they say the child is ‘totally on board with the situation’.
Rule 303 said:
Finally got a chance to redeem a birthday present (voucher) today, so I’m test-driving this for FNDC:
Conclusion – Extra good. Worth a crack.
does this mean you have to drink again tomorrow?
Arts said:
Rule 303 said:
Finally got a chance to redeem a birthday present (voucher) today, so I’m test-driving this for FNDC:
Conclusion – Extra good. Worth a crack.
does this mean you have to drink again tomorrow?
It does.
Rule 303 said:
Arts said:
Rule 303 said:
Finally got a chance to redeem a birthday present (voucher) today, so I’m test-driving this for FNDC:
Conclusion – Extra good. Worth a crack.
does this mean you have to drink again tomorrow?
It does.
carry on then.
dv said:
yeah it should.
I finished watching scumbag Epstein last night. the flight list for people who went to his island is like a Forbes magazine… I Mena sure not all of them probably did terrible stuff.. but fuck…
dv said:
‘Three strike’ mandatory sentencing laws have seen hundreds of Aboriginal people put in gaol for ridiculous crimes – Because how could a Baseball-based justice system not work?
Arts said:
I finished watching scumbag Epstein last night. the flight list for people who went to his island is like a Forbes magazine… I Mena sure not all of them probably did terrible stuff.. but fuck…
Is that the Netflix one?
Arts said:
I finished watching scumbag Epstein last night. the flight list for people who went to his island is like a Forbes magazine… I Mena sure not all of them probably did terrible stuff.. but fuck…
I’m still unsure I want to watch it.
Arts said:
I finished watching scumbag Epstein last night. the flight list for people who went to his island is like a Forbes magazine… I Mena sure not all of them probably did terrible stuff.. but fuck…
Still, they should think about taking his statue down
Arts said:
I finished watching scumbag Epstein last night. the flight list for people who went to his island is like a Forbes magazine… I Mena sure not all of them probably did terrible stuff.. but fuck…
I like to think Andrew is somewhat innocent because otherwise his wife and kids visiting without himself seems reckless.
I know the crowd noise is faked on the footy, and I usually hate canned laughter, but this is so much better than silence.
poikilotherm said:
Arts said:
I finished watching scumbag Epstein last night. the flight list for people who went to his island is like a Forbes magazine… I Mena sure not all of them probably did terrible stuff.. but fuck…
Is that the Netflix one?
yes
dv said:
Arts said:
I finished watching scumbag Epstein last night. the flight list for people who went to his island is like a Forbes magazine… I Mena sure not all of them probably did terrible stuff.. but fuck…
Still, they should think about taking his statue down
upside down it.
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:
I finished watching scumbag Epstein last night. the flight list for people who went to his island is like a Forbes magazine… I Mena sure not all of them probably did terrible stuff.. but fuck…
I like to think Andrew is somewhat innocent because otherwise his wife and kids visiting without himself seems reckless.
Well there are photos of him with a pretty young girl, who makes the allegation that he did.
dv said:
Appalling.
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:
I finished watching scumbag Epstein last night. the flight list for people who went to his island is like a Forbes magazine… I Mena sure not all of them probably did terrible stuff.. but fuck…
I like to think Andrew is somewhat innocent because otherwise his wife and kids visiting without himself seems reckless.
Well there are photos of him with a pretty young girl, who makes the allegation that he did.
:(
dv said:
Arts said:
I finished watching scumbag Epstein last night. the flight list for people who went to his island is like a Forbes magazine… I Mena sure not all of them probably did terrible stuff.. but fuck…
Still, they should think about taking his statue down
so what do we think about taking down the “statues” that the Christchurch Mosque Massacre fella erected on social media for himself ¿ All those videos those people post, all those manifestos, if we take them down away from casual public view then we deny it ever happened hey
dv said:
Be careful, kids.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/tanya-mcdowell-felicity-huffman/
What’s True
Tanya McDowell, an African American woman who was purportedly homeless, was given five years in prison for sending her son to the wrong school district as part of a plea deal involving the school incident and several other charges, while Felicity Huffman, a wealthy, white Hollywood celebrity, was given 14 days in prison in the U.S. college-admissions scandal.
What’s False
However, McDowell and Huffman’s criminal cases make poor direct comparisons because they involve different criminal charges, different circumstances and different criminal jurisdictions.
The criminal case of Tanya McDowell was resolved in 2012 when she was sentenced to five years in prison for a number of charges, including larceny relating to sending her child to the wrong school district. But McDowell’s case continues to be re-litigated in the public eye in comparison to other cases involving schools and perceptions of privilege.
McDowell’s five-year sentence was recently raised in comparison to that of actress Felicity Huffman, who was sentenced to 14 days in federal prison for paying to have her daughter’s SAT scores inflated in what has become known as the college-admissions cheating scandal. Many shared a meme sowing outrage over the notion that a wealthy, white woman was given preferential treatment over a homeless, African American woman….
In sum, it’s true that McDowell and Huffman faced drastically different punishments for their crimes, and it is also true that inequity in the criminal-justice system continues to be a pressing social issue. However, the two criminal cases serve as poor comparisons because they involve different types of crimes, circumstances, and jurisdictions. Therefore we rate this claim “Mixture.”
Just started watching Thalu on SBS on demand. I meant to start it when it premiered a few weeks ago, but didn’t get around to it. I like it. Kids TV is sometimes excellent stuff. Really liked Grace Beside Me last year.
Well, I’m not saying he didn’t do it, but being photographed with someone is not evidence of guilt of anything. Unless, of course, the photograph is of you doing the thing…
Michael V said:
dv said:
Appalling.
Putting the racism thing aside just for a moment (which is not to diminish or distract from what is obviously an enormous problem) I recall posting to SiSSyFuss about a survey I did comparing sentence lengths in the Australia and the US: Of the people who got custodial sentences*, their sentences were ten times longer than ours.
*they were many times (I forget how many) more likely to get custodial sentences.
Michael V said:
dv said:
Appalling.
Don’t forget that was back in 2012 for McDowell, Mr DV. and that 5 years included the school bizzo, but also included numerous drug, prostitution and other charges, and a previous criminal record of armed robbery.
furious said:
- Well there are photos of him with a pretty young girl, who makes the allegation that he did.
Well, I’m not saying he didn’t do it, but being photographed with someone is not evidence of guilt of anything. Unless, of course, the photograph is of you doing the thing…
True, whgich is why I said “allegation”.
AFAIK he is still denying ever meeting her. Which is a bit odd given that there is a photo.
First American Woman to Walk in Space Reaches Deepest Spot in the Ocean
The astronaut Kathy Sullivan, 68, is now also the first woman to reach the Challenger Deep, about seven miles below the ocean’s surface.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/08/science/challenger-deep-kathy-sullivan-astronaut.html
Overachiever
esselte said:
dv said:
Be careful, kids.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/tanya-mcdowell-felicity-huffman/
What’s True
Tanya McDowell, an African American woman who was purportedly homeless, was given five years in prison for sending her son to the wrong school district as part of a plea deal involving the school incident and several other charges, while Felicity Huffman, a wealthy, white Hollywood celebrity, was given 14 days in prison in the U.S. college-admissions scandal.What’s False
However, McDowell and Huffman’s criminal cases make poor direct comparisons because they involve different criminal charges, different circumstances and different criminal jurisdictions.The criminal case of Tanya McDowell was resolved in 2012 when she was sentenced to five years in prison for a number of charges, including larceny relating to sending her child to the wrong school district. But McDowell’s case continues to be re-litigated in the public eye in comparison to other cases involving schools and perceptions of privilege.
McDowell’s five-year sentence was recently raised in comparison to that of actress Felicity Huffman, who was sentenced to 14 days in federal prison for paying to have her daughter’s SAT scores inflated in what has become known as the college-admissions cheating scandal. Many shared a meme sowing outrage over the notion that a wealthy, white woman was given preferential treatment over a homeless, African American woman….
In sum, it’s true that McDowell and Huffman faced drastically different punishments for their crimes, and it is also true that inequity in the criminal-justice system continues to be a pressing social issue. However, the two criminal cases serve as poor comparisons because they involve different types of crimes, circumstances, and jurisdictions. Therefore we rate this claim “Mixture.”
Oh bullshit. Snopes insults their audience with the standard of this response.
party_pants said:
furious said:
- Well there are photos of him with a pretty young girl, who makes the allegation that he did.
Well, I’m not saying he didn’t do it, but being photographed with someone is not evidence of guilt of anything. Unless, of course, the photograph is of you doing the thing…
True, whgich is why I said “allegation”.
AFAIK he is still denying ever meeting her. Which is a bit odd given that there is a photo.
It is possible to be photographed with someone and not remember them. He is, after all, “famous” and famous people pose with “fans” all the time and forget them almost immediately. Though, claiming it was faked was a bit over the top…
Rule 303 said:
Netflix has also pulled a number of Chris Lilley shows overnight because of racial depictions, according to Aunty.I’ve never really enjoyed Lilley’s stuff. I just don’t find him funny. Never really been comfortable with his ethnic stereotyping, either. Reminds me of black-face.
Hmmmm… Dunno.
Don’t like any of his stuff. I don’t care what character he does, it’s cringe-worthy.
Woodie said:
Michael V said:
dv said:
Appalling.
Don’t forget that was back in 2012 for McDowell, Mr DV. and that 5 years included the school bizzo, but also included numerous drug, prostitution and other charges, and a previous criminal record of armed robbery.
Alright. That’s appalling on face value.
It seems that in reality the comparison is between oranges and apples.
buffy said:
Rule 303 said:
Netflix has also pulled a number of Chris Lilley shows overnight because of racial depictions, according to Aunty.I’ve never really enjoyed Lilley’s stuff. I just don’t find him funny. Never really been comfortable with his ethnic stereotyping, either. Reminds me of black-face.
Hmmmm… Dunno.
Don’t like any of his stuff. I don’t care what character he does, it’s cringe-worthy.
I agree with this…
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:
I finished watching scumbag Epstein last night. the flight list for people who went to his island is like a Forbes magazine… I Mena sure not all of them probably did terrible stuff.. but fuck…
I like to think Andrew is somewhat innocent because otherwise his wife and kids visiting without himself seems reckless.
the doco has a witness that says he was not ‘innocent’.
Arts said:
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:
I finished watching scumbag Epstein last night. the flight list for people who went to his island is like a Forbes magazine… I Mena sure not all of them probably did terrible stuff.. but fuck…
I like to think Andrew is somewhat innocent because otherwise his wife and kids visiting without himself seems reckless.
the doco has a witness that says he was not ‘innocent’.
In that case my mind races straight to a Blues Brothers scene.
How much for the little princesses?
Rule 303 said:
dv said:
‘Three strike’ mandatory sentencing laws have seen hundreds of Aboriginal people put in gaol for ridiculous crimes – Because how could a Baseball-based justice system not work?
Does any jurisdiction in Australia have a three strike law?
party_pants said:
furious said:
- Well there are photos of him with a pretty young girl, who makes the allegation that he did.
Well, I’m not saying he didn’t do it, but being photographed with someone is not evidence of guilt of anything. Unless, of course, the photograph is of you doing the thing…
True, whgich is why I said “allegation”.
AFAIK he is still denying ever meeting her. Which is a bit odd given that there is a photo.
he insinuates that the photo is shopped.
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
dv said:
‘Three strike’ mandatory sentencing laws have seen hundreds of Aboriginal people put in gaol for ridiculous crimes – Because how could a Baseball-based justice system not work?
Does any jurisdiction in Australia have a three strike law?
WA used to, may still have.
Arts said:
party_pants said:
furious said:
- Well there are photos of him with a pretty young girl, who makes the allegation that he did.
Well, I’m not saying he didn’t do it, but being photographed with someone is not evidence of guilt of anything. Unless, of course, the photograph is of you doing the thing…
True, whgich is why I said “allegation”.
AFAIK he is still denying ever meeting her. Which is a bit odd given that there is a photo.
he insinuates that the photo is shopped.
OK. I’ll leave that to the experts to decide.
furious said:
buffy said:
Rule 303 said:
Netflix has also pulled a number of Chris Lilley shows overnight because of racial depictions, according to Aunty.I’ve never really enjoyed Lilley’s stuff. I just don’t find him funny. Never really been comfortable with his ethnic stereotyping, either. Reminds me of black-face.
Hmmmm… Dunno.
Don’t like any of his stuff. I don’t care what character he does, it’s cringe-worthy.
I agree with this…
+1
At least cheap beer and cash registers are now safer…
Under Section 78A
of the Sentencing Act persons found guilty of certain property offences
shall be subject to a mandatory minimum term of imprisonment of 14 days
for a first offence. For a second property offence the mandatory minimum
sentence is 90 days. For a third property offence the period of imprisonment
is one year.
Adults
A 24 year old Indigenous mother was sentenced to 14 days in prison for receiving a stolen $2.50 can of beer. A 27 year old white teacher disputed the quality of a hotdog at a Darwin fast food bar and poured water onto the till. She paid in full for the damage she caused. She was sentenced to 14 days in prison. An 18 year old Indigenous man obeyed his father and admitted to police that he stole a $2.50 cigarette lighter. He was sentenced to 14 days in prison. A 29 year old homeless Indigenous man wandered into a backyard when drunk and took a $15 towel. It was his third minor property offence. He was imprisoned for one year.Rule 303 said:
esselte said:
dv said:
Be careful, kids.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/tanya-mcdowell-felicity-huffman/
What’s True
Tanya McDowell, an African American woman who was purportedly homeless, was given five years in prison for sending her son to the wrong school district as part of a plea deal involving the school incident and several other charges, while Felicity Huffman, a wealthy, white Hollywood celebrity, was given 14 days in prison in the U.S. college-admissions scandal.What’s False
However, McDowell and Huffman’s criminal cases make poor direct comparisons because they involve different criminal charges, different circumstances and different criminal jurisdictions.The criminal case of Tanya McDowell was resolved in 2012 when she was sentenced to five years in prison for a number of charges, including larceny relating to sending her child to the wrong school district. But McDowell’s case continues to be re-litigated in the public eye in comparison to other cases involving schools and perceptions of privilege.
McDowell’s five-year sentence was recently raised in comparison to that of actress Felicity Huffman, who was sentenced to 14 days in federal prison for paying to have her daughter’s SAT scores inflated in what has become known as the college-admissions cheating scandal. Many shared a meme sowing outrage over the notion that a wealthy, white woman was given preferential treatment over a homeless, African American woman….
In sum, it’s true that McDowell and Huffman faced drastically different punishments for their crimes, and it is also true that inequity in the criminal-justice system continues to be a pressing social issue. However, the two criminal cases serve as poor comparisons because they involve different types of crimes, circumstances, and jurisdictions. Therefore we rate this claim “Mixture.”
Oh bullshit. Snopes insults their audience with the standard of this response.
Why do you say that?
Woodie said:
Michael V said:
dv said:
Appalling.
Don’t forget that was back in 2012 for McDowell, Mr DV. and that 5 years included the school bizzo, but also included numerous drug, prostitution and other charges, and a previous criminal record of armed robbery.
Pretty sure you get those charges for free when you’re poor. Comes with the territory.
Australian police use the ‘big three’ when they’ve got nothing: Resist arrest, assault police, profane, indecent, or obscene language.
If you haven’t got a solicitor and barrister, each charge comes with a free set of steak knives and the promise of future convictions.
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
dv said:
‘Three strike’ mandatory sentencing laws have seen hundreds of Aboriginal people put in gaol for ridiculous crimes – Because how could a Baseball-based justice system not work?
Does any jurisdiction in Australia have a three strike law?
Dunno about the current status, but they did for a while in the NT.
https://vm.tiktok.com/ovSbK1/
Watch this instructional video on how to make tea.
look, it’s like the whole of NASA keeping a secret… one person making an allogation against a rich and powerful person might be an anomaly or vendetta.. many people doing the same (not in collusion) is pretty clear… especially when not one ‘victim’ says ‘thats not what happened’. they all say the same thing in different ways.. that’s not a coincidence or a conspiracy.
Rule 303 said:
Woodie said:
Michael V said:Appalling.
Don’t forget that was back in 2012 for McDowell, Mr DV. and that 5 years included the school bizzo, but also included numerous drug, prostitution and other charges, and a previous criminal record of armed robbery.
Pretty sure you get those charges for free when you’re poor. Comes with the territory.
Australian police use the ‘big three’ when they’ve got nothing: Resist arrest, assault police, profane, indecent, or obscene language.
If you haven’t got a solicitor and barrister, each charge comes with a free set of steak knives and the promise of future convictions.
If you plead guilty to something else they will often drop the resist arrest.
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:‘Three strike’ mandatory sentencing laws have seen hundreds of Aboriginal people put in gaol for ridiculous crimes – Because how could a Baseball-based justice system not work?
Does any jurisdiction in Australia have a three strike law?
Dunno about the current status, but they did for a while in the NT.
I think , not positive, the three strikes in the US means third time means something like life, 15 to 20 years, long time in prison. Not sure any place in Australia is going to give you 15 years for a mars bar…
esselte said:
dv said:
Be careful, kids.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/tanya-mcdowell-felicity-huffman/
What’s True
Tanya McDowell, an African American woman who was purportedly homeless, was given five years in prison for sending her son to the wrong school district as part of a plea deal involving the school incident and several other charges, while Felicity Huffman, a wealthy, white Hollywood celebrity, was given 14 days in prison in the U.S. college-admissions scandal.What’s False
However, McDowell and Huffman’s criminal cases make poor direct comparisons because they involve different criminal charges, different circumstances and different criminal jurisdictions.The criminal case of Tanya McDowell was resolved in 2012 when she was sentenced to five years in prison for a number of charges, including larceny relating to sending her child to the wrong school district. But McDowell’s case continues to be re-litigated in the public eye in comparison to other cases involving schools and perceptions of privilege.
McDowell’s five-year sentence was recently raised in comparison to that of actress Felicity Huffman, who was sentenced to 14 days in federal prison for paying to have her daughter’s SAT scores inflated in what has become known as the college-admissions cheating scandal. Many shared a meme sowing outrage over the notion that a wealthy, white woman was given preferential treatment over a homeless, African American woman….
In sum, it’s true that McDowell and Huffman faced drastically different punishments for their crimes, and it is also true that inequity in the criminal-justice system continues to be a pressing social issue. However, the two criminal cases serve as poor comparisons because they involve different types of crimes, circumstances, and jurisdictions. Therefore we rate this claim “Mixture.”
fair
dv said:
https://vm.tiktok.com/ovSbK1/Watch this instructional video on how to make tea.
no.
sibeen said:
furious said:
buffy said:Don’t like any of his stuff. I don’t care what character he does, it’s cringe-worthy.
I agree with this…
+1
But if you want truly amusing political incorrectness, and yes I do love this series, try Seven Periods with Mr Gormsby.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0471059/
furious said:
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:Does any jurisdiction in Australia have a three strike law?
Dunno about the current status, but they did for a while in the NT.
I think , not positive, the three strikes in the US means third time means something like life, 15 to 20 years, long time in prison. Not sure any place in Australia is going to give you 15 years for a mars bar…
Just a year for a Mars in WA
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
https://vm.tiktok.com/ovSbK1/Watch this instructional video on how to make tea.
no.
Im sure its been posted here before…
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
https://vm.tiktok.com/ovSbK1/Watch this instructional video on how to make tea.
no.
not a big tea fan eh?
furious said:
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
https://vm.tiktok.com/ovSbK1/Watch this instructional video on how to make tea.
no.
Im sure its been posted here before…
It’s only a couple of days old
poikilotherm said:
furious said:
Rule 303 said:Dunno about the current status, but they did for a while in the NT.
I think , not positive, the three strikes in the US means third time means something like life, 15 to 20 years, long time in prison. Not sure any place in Australia is going to give you 15 years for a mars bar…
Just a year for a Mars in WA
Still not great…
dv said:
furious said:
sarahs mum said:no.
Im sure its been posted here before…
It’s only a couple of days old
Is that the American making highly sugared “English” tea? Someone put it here, I think.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Rule 303 said:
esselte said:Be careful, kids.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/tanya-mcdowell-felicity-huffman/
What’s True
Tanya McDowell, an African American woman who was purportedly homeless, was given five years in prison for sending her son to the wrong school district as part of a plea deal involving the school incident and several other charges, while Felicity Huffman, a wealthy, white Hollywood celebrity, was given 14 days in prison in the U.S. college-admissions scandal.What’s False
However, McDowell and Huffman’s criminal cases make poor direct comparisons because they involve different criminal charges, different circumstances and different criminal jurisdictions.The criminal case of Tanya McDowell was resolved in 2012 when she was sentenced to five years in prison for a number of charges, including larceny relating to sending her child to the wrong school district. But McDowell’s case continues to be re-litigated in the public eye in comparison to other cases involving schools and perceptions of privilege.
McDowell’s five-year sentence was recently raised in comparison to that of actress Felicity Huffman, who was sentenced to 14 days in federal prison for paying to have her daughter’s SAT scores inflated in what has become known as the college-admissions cheating scandal. Many shared a meme sowing outrage over the notion that a wealthy, white woman was given preferential treatment over a homeless, African American woman….
In sum, it’s true that McDowell and Huffman faced drastically different punishments for their crimes, and it is also true that inequity in the criminal-justice system continues to be a pressing social issue. However, the two criminal cases serve as poor comparisons because they involve different types of crimes, circumstances, and jurisdictions. Therefore we rate this claim “Mixture.”
Oh bullshit. Snopes insults their audience with the standard of this response.
Why do you say that?
I think they’re trying to make the cases sound less similar than they are, pointing to irrelevant factors to create the impression of difference, and adding nothing that wasn’t obvious from the meme.
dv said:
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
https://vm.tiktok.com/ovSbK1/Watch this instructional video on how to make tea.
no.
not a big tea fan eh?
Perhaps I am a tea fan..
something mildly interesting, it seems grief maybe considered discrète variable in some circles* but that’s all
Speaking after Question Time, Mr Shorten said the scheme caused “countless grief” and “trauma” for many people issued with debt notices.
*: π = 4
BHP agrees not to damage 40 Aboriginal heritage sites without consulting traditional owners
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jun/11/bhp-agrees-not-damage-40-aboriginal-heritage-sites-without-consulting-traditional-owners-pilbara?CMP=soc_567

Arts said:
I finished watching scumbag Epstein last night. the flight list for people who went to his island is like a Forbes magazine… I Mena sure not all of them probably did terrible stuff.. but fuck…
I was gonna ask you about that. Is it worth the viewing?

We had a bit of a discussion about why Americans tend not to have kettles. A main reason was that they take a long time. US power points are limited to 1800 W (compared to 3000 W in the UK and 2500 W here) so kettles sold there are limited to 1500 W. So Americans were saying it is quicker to just buzz a cup of water in the microwave for a minute.
The thing is, microwave ovens have an efficiency of around 50%. There isn’t any way a 1500 W microwave oven can bring a cup of water to boiling point in a minute. Probably more like 70 deg C.
Which might be fine for some purposes but not for making tea.

Rule 303 said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Rule 303 said:Oh bullshit. Snopes insults their audience with the standard of this response.
Why do you say that?
I think they’re trying to make the cases sound less similar than they are, pointing to irrelevant factors to create the impression of difference, and adding nothing that wasn’t obvious from the meme.
It wasn’t mentioned in the meme that the charges included larceny. That seems a pretty significant difference to me.
dv said:
We had a bit of a discussion about why Americans tend not to have kettles. A main reason was that they take a long time. US power points are limited to 1800 W (compared to 3000 W in the UK and 2500 W here) so kettles sold there are limited to 1500 W. So Americans were saying it is quicker to just buzz a cup of water in the microwave for a minute.The thing is, microwave ovens have an efficiency of around 50%. There isn’t any way a 1500 W microwave oven can bring a cup of water to boiling point in a minute. Probably more like 70 deg C.
Which might be fine for some purposes but not for making tea.
Oh. Is that the reason?
The Rev Dodgson said:
Rule 303 said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Why do you say that?
I think they’re trying to make the cases sound less similar than they are, pointing to irrelevant factors to create the impression of difference, and adding nothing that wasn’t obvious from the meme.
It wasn’t mentioned in the meme that the charges included larceny. That seems a pretty significant difference to me.
The charge of larceny was related to the inaccurate school application.
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
We had a bit of a discussion about why Americans tend not to have kettles. A main reason was that they take a long time. US power points are limited to 1800 W (compared to 3000 W in the UK and 2500 W here) so kettles sold there are limited to 1500 W. So Americans were saying it is quicker to just buzz a cup of water in the microwave for a minute.The thing is, microwave ovens have an efficiency of around 50%. There isn’t any way a 1500 W microwave oven can bring a cup of water to boiling point in a minute. Probably more like 70 deg C.
Which might be fine for some purposes but not for making tea.
Oh. Is that the reason?
pfft just connect 2 power points to the kettle in parallel
The Rev Dodgson said:
Rule 303 said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Why do you say that?
I think they’re trying to make the cases sound less similar than they are, pointing to irrelevant factors to create the impression of difference, and adding nothing that wasn’t obvious from the meme.
It wasn’t mentioned in the meme that the charges included larceny. That seems a pretty significant difference to me.
Let’s just ignore for a moment that they’ve charged a homeless woman with sending her six year-old child to the wrong school – Who knows what ‘larceny’ means, in this context? It’s an old word for ‘theft’. What is she accused of stealing?
SCIENCE said:
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
We had a bit of a discussion about why Americans tend not to have kettles. A main reason was that they take a long time. US power points are limited to 1800 W (compared to 3000 W in the UK and 2500 W here) so kettles sold there are limited to 1500 W. So Americans were saying it is quicker to just buzz a cup of water in the microwave for a minute.The thing is, microwave ovens have an efficiency of around 50%. There isn’t any way a 1500 W microwave oven can bring a cup of water to boiling point in a minute. Probably more like 70 deg C.
Which might be fine for some purposes but not for making tea.
Oh. Is that the reason?
pfft just connect 2 power points to the kettle in parallel
Just boil water on the stove top, mix it with tea bag in a cup, steep for appropriate time, discard tea bag, discard tea, easy…
SCIENCE said:
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
We had a bit of a discussion about why Americans tend not to have kettles. A main reason was that they take a long time. US power points are limited to 1800 W (compared to 3000 W in the UK and 2500 W here) so kettles sold there are limited to 1500 W. So Americans were saying it is quicker to just buzz a cup of water in the microwave for a minute.The thing is, microwave ovens have an efficiency of around 50%. There isn’t any way a 1500 W microwave oven can bring a cup of water to boiling point in a minute. Probably more like 70 deg C.
Which might be fine for some purposes but not for making tea.
Oh. Is that the reason?
pfft just connect 2 power points to the kettle in parallel
Aunty Barbara in Santa Rosa had a little plastic box thing on the counter. You poured a cup of water in it and very quickly a light came on and you could pour out a cup of hot water from a little spigot. I don’t know how it worked.
Not yet ten of the clock and my wood basket is already empty. Mind you, the wood heater is full.
But I ought to take the basket and venture to the woodpile in the workshop by torchlight, and grab a few adequately sized pieces to see me through.
Bubblecar said:
But I ought to take the basket and venture to the woodpile in the workshop by torchlight, and grab a few adequately sized pieces to see me through.
Yes. You should.
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Rule 303 said:I think they’re trying to make the cases sound less similar than they are, pointing to irrelevant factors to create the impression of difference, and adding nothing that wasn’t obvious from the meme.
It wasn’t mentioned in the meme that the charges included larceny. That seems a pretty significant difference to me.
The charge of larceny was related to the inaccurate school application.
OK, I misread that.
From Snopes:
“McDowell in 2012 received five years in state prison in Connecticut in a plea agreement reached with prosecutors over numerous charges, one of which included felony larceny. The larceny charge resulted from sending her son to a school district in which she did not not live, and it drew a public outcry. But she was arrested again, after the school incident, on charges that she offered drugs and prostitutes to undercover police officers. Her attorney, Darnell Crosland, argued at the time that he believed police had entrapped McDowell in retaliation for the public support she received in the school case, but prosecutors stated police were following up on a complaint that McDowell was dealing drugs on the street. “
So the “larceny” does relate to getting her son into the wrong school, which is without question ridiculous.
But there were other charges, which were not mentioned in the meme, so Snopes account still seems reasonable to me.
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:But I ought to take the basket and venture to the woodpile in the workshop by torchlight, and grab a few adequately sized pieces to see me through.
Yes. You should.
Done, if not dusted.
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
sarahs mum said:no.
not a big tea fan eh?
Perhaps I am a tea fan..
puts up hand and steps for
I’m a tea fan.
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
dv said:not a big tea fan eh?
Perhaps I am a tea fan..
puts up hand and steps for
I’m a tea fan.
Any day of the week, you both can have my ration…
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
dv said:not a big tea fan eh?
Perhaps I am a tea fan..
puts up hand and steps for
I’m a tea fan.
For what are you putting up your hand and steps?
After doing some research the DJI Mavic Mini is what I’m after.
Range of 4k flight time 30 minutes with plenty of service ceiling.
They want 550 dorrah
It’s very light however and the winds at the Redoubt are legend, the folks up there call the wind Mariah.
was just thinking, i’m descended of people that must have destroyed a lot of native egalitarianism
transition said:
was just thinking, i’m descended of people that must have destroyed a lot of native egalitarianism
well look maybe they were wrong to interpret it as “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”, and rather simply people should learn lessons from the past, but let go of it, and then we might find a better future
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
was just thinking, i’m descended of people that must have destroyed a lot of native egalitarianismwell look maybe they were wrong to interpret it as “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”, and rather simply people should learn lessons from the past, but let go of it, and then we might find a better future
You could also say that those who cling the past are condemned to repeat it.
transition said:
was just thinking, i’m descended of people that must have destroyed a lot of native egalitarianism
Solution: paint a fine portrait of John Howard being sick out of his mouth, nose, eyes and ears*, and enter it into the Archibald.
*what he’d rather do than say “sorry”.
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
was just thinking, i’m descended of people that must have destroyed a lot of native egalitarianism
Solution: paint a fine portrait of John Howard being sick out of his mouth, nose, eyes and ears*, and enter it into the Archibald.
*what he’d rather do than say “sorry”.
john Howard would have to sit for it. So that aint going to happen.
Capybara with mandarin orange on head in the open-air bath
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUqCWkPlLLc&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR09-po5fg8mOEV7Dl8Bz58KT5pbAtMkf7FLs1DNW7RzCrfoX7fMaxDS9rE
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
was just thinking, i’m descended of people that must have destroyed a lot of native egalitarianism
Solution: paint a fine portrait of John Howard being sick out of his mouth, nose, eyes and ears*, and enter it into the Archibald.
*what he’d rather do than say “sorry”.
john Howard would have to sit for it. So that aint going to happen.
You could say he sat for it in Bennelong for 33 years, before the voting public wised up.
sarahs mum said:
Capybara with mandarin orange on head in the open-air bathhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUqCWkPlLLc&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR09-po5fg8mOEV7Dl8Bz58KT5pbAtMkf7FLs1DNW7RzCrfoX7fMaxDS9rE
Big & chunky cosy rodents. He seemed to realise that people were laughing at him.
Bubblecar said:
Big & chunky cosy rodents.
Some nice cadence there.
party_pants said:
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
was just thinking, i’m descended of people that must have destroyed a lot of native egalitarianismwell look maybe they were wrong to interpret it as “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”, and rather simply people should learn lessons from the past, but let go of it, and then we might find a better future
You could also say that those who cling the past are condemned to repeat it.
I was more getting at the diverse groups of the world, previous to James Cook here locally, must have been enjoying an egalitarian bliss before colonization, and the trajectory must have been, well, something better than it is today
Hanson said she could not believe that her motion – “that the Senate notes that all lives matter” – was being denied formality. She told the Senate people were “too bloody gutless to stand up for the people of this nation that all lives matter”.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jun/11/senators-unite-to-block-pauline-hansons-all-lives-matter-motion
sarahs mum said:
Hanson said she could not believe that her motion – “that the Senate notes that all lives matter” – was being denied formality. She told the Senate people were “too bloody gutless to stand up for the people of this nation that all lives matter”.https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jun/11/senators-unite-to-block-pauline-hansons-all-lives-matter-motion
good
Morning.
The sun slept in this morning, only peeping above the horizon just after 6.30am.
Mostly sunny with a top of 24 and 50% chance of showers today.
Divine Angel said:
Morning.The sun slept in this morning, only peeping above the horizon just after 6.30am.
Mostly sunny with a top of 24 and 50% chance of showers today.
A warm 0.3 in the Styx , clear and sunny.
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 2 degrees, very still and very minor light cloud in some of the sky. Our forecast for today is for a partly cloudy 13. There is rain forecast for tomorrow afternoon.
poikilotherm said:
Divine Angel said:
Morning.The sun slept in this morning, only peeping above the horizon just after 6.30am.
Mostly sunny with a top of 24 and 50% chance of showers today.
A warm 0.3 in the Styx , clear and sunny.
Currently it’s 16.8°C and 91% RH and partly cloudy with a light air. Covering the spectrum from white to dark grey, the clouds are moving quite fast from the southeast and changing shapes rapidly. It’s rather pretty, really. BoM reckons we’ll get to 23°C and that we have a chance of rain all day. According to the radar there’s a band of heavy rain just north of us, where the darkest clouds are.
Today: make bread, make wontons (veal this time) and clean stuff.
Michael V said:
poikilotherm said:
Divine Angel said:
Morning.The sun slept in this morning, only peeping above the horizon just after 6.30am.
Mostly sunny with a top of 24 and 50% chance of showers today.
A warm 0.3 in the Styx , clear and sunny.
Currently it’s 16.8°C and 91% RH and partly cloudy with a light air. Covering the spectrum from white to dark grey, the clouds are moving quite fast from the southeast and changing shapes rapidly. It’s rather pretty, really. BoM reckons we’ll get to 23°C and that we have a chance of rain all day. According to the radar there’s a band of heavy rain just north of us, where the darkest clouds are.
Today: make bread, make wontons (veal this time) and clean stuff.
Drizzly dreary here again (though yesterday had sunshine at last and sunshine will be back tomorrow for another brief appearance).
MV’s dumpling/wonton advertising finally made me attempt them last night. I did the fried and steamed version as I have watched the process at the markets. An older Chinese couple had a dumpling stall next door to the one I work at the farmers markets for years, very popular. There was a small outcry when they didn’t come during lockdown.
I’m pleased to say that my dumplings were really really yummy, and I will also be making them very regularly from now on. Thanks MV for the inspiration!
poikilotherm said:
Divine Angel said:
Morning.The sun slept in this morning, only peeping above the horizon just after 6.30am.
Mostly sunny with a top of 24 and 50% chance of showers today.
A warm 0.3 in the Styx , clear and sunny.
OK, off to Hamilton. Drop in papers to accountant’s dropbox (they still aren’t open at the office), buy sports shoes ordered last week and now in the shop for me, faff about in the local bits and pieces shop for some stuff for an idea I’ve got for the chook pen, and pick up Mr buffy’s Tattslotto winnings. He has actually won more than $100 this time.
:)
buffy said:
OK, off to Hamilton. Drop in papers to accountant’s dropbox (they still aren’t open at the office), buy sports shoes ordered last week and now in the shop for me, faff about in the local bits and pieces shop for some stuff for an idea I’ve got for the chook pen, and pick up Mr buffy’s Tattslotto winnings. He has actually won more than $100 this time.:)
dv said:
Boris, give dv his handle back!
_ “Gay Nature girl gambols Down Under”_
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-12/terrie-ridgway-girl-robinson-crusoe-great-barrier-reef-qld/12340474
‘nings!
I have woken after the shittest night’s sleep I’ve had in years, to the realisation that drinking four beers after an aggressive deep-tissue massage (seriously, the dude walked on me) is a really bad idea. Blood chemistry all over the shop.
>sigh<
dv said:
Nice.
Rule 303 said:
‘nings!I have woken after the shittest night’s sleep I’ve had in years, to the realisation that drinking four beers after an aggressive deep-tissue massage (seriously, the dude walked on me) is a really bad idea. Blood chemistry all over the shop.
>sigh<
Ha, I could have told you that.
buffy said:
OK, off to Hamilton. Drop in papers to accountant’s dropbox (they still aren’t open at the office), buy sports shoes ordered last week and now in the shop for me, faff about in the local bits and pieces shop for some stuff for an idea I’ve got for the chook pen, and pick up Mr buffy’s Tattslotto winnings. He has actually won more than $100 this time.:)
Probably be wise to put some of that on the plate on Sunday.
sibeen said:
_ “Gay Nature girl gambols Down Under”_https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-12/terrie-ridgway-girl-robinson-crusoe-great-barrier-reef-qld/12340474
That is a good read. I do like the dig at click bait headlines.
Rule 303 said:
dv said:
Nice.
ruby said:
sibeen said:
_ “Gay Nature girl gambols Down Under”_https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-12/terrie-ridgway-girl-robinson-crusoe-great-barrier-reef-qld/12340474
That is a good read. I do like the dig at click bait headlines.
I just found it funny that 60 years ago that could be a headline in a newspaper and no-one would blink an eye. :)
Michael V said:
poikilotherm said:
Divine Angel said:
Morning.The sun slept in this morning, only peeping above the horizon just after 6.30am.
Mostly sunny with a top of 24 and 50% chance of showers today.
A warm 0.3 in the Styx , clear and sunny.
Currently it’s 16.8°C and 91% RH and partly cloudy with a light air. Covering the spectrum from white to dark grey, the clouds are moving quite fast from the southeast and changing shapes rapidly. It’s rather pretty, really. BoM reckons we’ll get to 23°C and that we have a chance of rain all day. According to the radar there’s a band of heavy rain just north of us, where the darkest clouds are.
Today: make bread, make wontons (veal this time) and clean stuff.
Bread’s in the oven at <50°C, to prove for the next 4 to 5 hours – checking temperature and rise hourly for 4 hours, then every 15 mins.
Breakfast (sausage and vegetable stir-fry (thanks Mrs V).
Then wonton-making.
:)
ruby said:
Michael V said:
poikilotherm said:A warm 0.3 in the Styx , clear and sunny.
Currently it’s 16.8°C and 91% RH and partly cloudy with a light air. Covering the spectrum from white to dark grey, the clouds are moving quite fast from the southeast and changing shapes rapidly. It’s rather pretty, really. BoM reckons we’ll get to 23°C and that we have a chance of rain all day. According to the radar there’s a band of heavy rain just north of us, where the darkest clouds are.
Today: make bread, make wontons (veal this time) and clean stuff.
Drizzly dreary here again (though yesterday had sunshine at last and sunshine will be back tomorrow for another brief appearance).
MV’s dumpling/wonton advertising finally made me attempt them last night. I did the fried and steamed version as I have watched the process at the markets. An older Chinese couple had a dumpling stall next door to the one I work at the farmers markets for years, very popular. There was a small outcry when they didn’t come during lockdown.
I’m pleased to say that my dumplings were really really yummy, and I will also be making them very regularly from now on. Thanks MV for the inspiration!
No worries.
:)
Divine Angel said:
Rule 303 said:
‘nings!I have woken after the shittest night’s sleep I’ve had in years, to the realisation that drinking four beers after an aggressive deep-tissue massage (seriously, the dude walked on me) is a really bad idea. Blood chemistry all over the shop.
>sigh<
Ha, I could have told you that.
Yeah thanks.
In other news, I now have personal experience of what it must surely feel like to get CPR. To replicate this experience for yourself, have a 55kg Thai bloke jump on your thoracic spine a few times.
dv said:
LOL
Listened to todays astrology results being read on the wireless.
Apparently for most signs there is a strong connection between Uranus and the sun, very strong.
Arts needs one of these in the backyard;
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-06-11/studio-nucleo-terra-is-the-greatest-lawn-chair-of-all-time?

Peak Warming Man said:
Listened to todays astrology results being read on the wireless.
Apparently for most signs there is a strong connection between Uranus and the sun, very strong.
Mercury retrograde starts next week. All sorts of hell lets loose when that happens, apparently. Hey, has anyone worked out an astrological link to COVID’s spread and the planetary positions?
Witty Rejoinder said:
Arts needs one of these in the backyard;https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-06-11/studio-nucleo-terra-is-the-greatest-lawn-chair-of-all-time?
Caption says lawn chair, my mind says “you didn’t dig a deep enough hole to bury the body”
sibeen said:
ruby said:
sibeen said:
_ “Gay Nature girl gambols Down Under”_https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-12/terrie-ridgway-girl-robinson-crusoe-great-barrier-reef-qld/12340474
That is a good read. I do like the dig at click bait headlines.
I just found it funny that 60 years ago that could be a headline in a newspaper and no-one would blink an eye. :)
In the last town I lived in in England they had a shop called “Gay Young Fashions” which survived well into the 1990’s.
Peak Warming Man said:
Listened to todays astrology results being read on the wireless.
Apparently for most signs there is a strong connection between Uranus and the sun, very strong.
I fell down into the burning ring of fire.
sibeen said:
ruby said:
sibeen said:
_ “Gay Nature girl gambols Down Under”_https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-12/terrie-ridgway-girl-robinson-crusoe-great-barrier-reef-qld/12340474
That is a good read. I do like the dig at click bait headlines.
I just found it funny that 60 years ago that could be a headline in a newspaper and no-one would blink an eye. :)
A bit of a frolic. eh?
Tamb said:
Rule 303 said:
dv said:
Nice.
Bit of spit will fix it.
I use soap. Rub a bar of soap all over the lens, then polish off with a tissue. Make sure the mask is sealed around the nose, get a mask with an exhaust valve, and keep your chin up (literally).
Peak Warming Man said:
Listened to todays astrology results being read on the wireless.
Apparently for most signs there is a strong connection between Uranus and the sun, very strong.
When you get an SMS that says ‘Do not reply by SMS’, what happens if you reply by SMS?
A lot of people tell me these days that they don’t remember the sixties and when I LOL they say “no I really don’t remember the sixties”
The Rev Dodgson said:
In Brighton?
sibeen said:
ruby said:That is a good read. I do like the dig at click bait headlines.
I just found it funny that 60 years ago that could be a headline in a newspaper and no-one would blink an eye. :)
In the last town I lived in in England they had a shop called “Gay Young Fashions” which survived well into the 1990’s.
Michael V said:
ruby said:
Michael V said:Currently it’s 16.8°C and 91% RH and partly cloudy with a light air. Covering the spectrum from white to dark grey, the clouds are moving quite fast from the southeast and changing shapes rapidly. It’s rather pretty, really. BoM reckons we’ll get to 23°C and that we have a chance of rain all day. According to the radar there’s a band of heavy rain just north of us, where the darkest clouds are.
Today: make bread, make wontons (veal this time) and clean stuff.
Drizzly dreary here again (though yesterday had sunshine at last and sunshine will be back tomorrow for another brief appearance).
MV’s dumpling/wonton advertising finally made me attempt them last night. I did the fried and steamed version as I have watched the process at the markets. An older Chinese couple had a dumpling stall next door to the one I work at the farmers markets for years, very popular. There was a small outcry when they didn’t come during lockdown.
I’m pleased to say that my dumplings were really really yummy, and I will also be making them very regularly from now on. Thanks MV for the inspiration!
No worries.
:)
We too have been making these little dumplings often, as your hint of buying the little pastries from Woolies rather than making them from scratch has made it much more attractive. I have, however, morphed 2 recipes together to make another, so our little dumplings have more of a Russian influence, with the addition of shredded cabbage and soy sauce. Quite in keeping with me not owning a recipe that is not altered in some way.
I must admit that I am a very slow dumpling assembler and would not bother with it myself if I didn’t have speedier assistants. Our batch last weekend was doubled and half of these were frozen raw, then bagged in lots of 20, which is enough for both the boys for their after school snack.
Anyway I came here researching probate and now I have to get back to killing people in my novel.
Divine Angel said:
Anyway I came here researching probate and now I have to get back to killing people in my novel.
When is this one set?
Divine Angel said:
Anyway I came here researching probate and now I have to get back to killing people in my novel.
I take it your main character didn’t bother asking for that loan afterall.
Rule 303 said:
When you get an SMS that says ‘Do not reply by SMS’, what happens if you reply by SMS?
Your phone will be pretty much unusable for 24 hours as it keeps trying to send the sms that keeps being rebuffed.
It goes into a loop, you can only break the loop by turning it off and on.
Peak Warming Man said:
A lot of people tell me these days that they don’t remember the sixties and when I LOL they say “no I really don’t remember the sixties”
A lot of people tell me that if you remember the sixties you weren’t really there.
I see my observation of scomo’s lack of knowledge on slavery in australia has gone viral.
Witty Rejoinder said:
The Rev Dodgson said:In Brighton?
sibeen said:I just found it funny that 60 years ago that could be a headline in a newspaper and no-one would blink an eye. :)
In the last town I lived in in England they had a shop called “Gay Young Fashions” which survived well into the 1990’s.
Maybe Hove Albion.
Speedy said:
Michael V said:
ruby said:Drizzly dreary here again (though yesterday had sunshine at last and sunshine will be back tomorrow for another brief appearance).
MV’s dumpling/wonton advertising finally made me attempt them last night. I did the fried and steamed version as I have watched the process at the markets. An older Chinese couple had a dumpling stall next door to the one I work at the farmers markets for years, very popular. There was a small outcry when they didn’t come during lockdown.
I’m pleased to say that my dumplings were really really yummy, and I will also be making them very regularly from now on. Thanks MV for the inspiration!
No worries.
:)
We too have been making these little dumplings often, as your hint of buying the little pastries from Woolies rather than making them from scratch has made it much more attractive. I have, however, morphed 2 recipes together to make another, so our little dumplings have more of a Russian influence, with the addition of shredded cabbage and soy sauce. Quite in keeping with me not owning a recipe that is not altered in some way.
I must admit that I am a very slow dumpling assembler and would not bother with it myself if I didn’t have speedier assistants. Our batch last weekend was doubled and half of these were frozen raw, then bagged in lots of 20, which is enough for both the boys for their after school snack.
Their after school ‘snack’ is ten wontons each? How big and strapping are these lads?
Bogsnorkler said:
I see my observation of scomo’s lack of knowledge on slavery in australia has gone viral.
Did you compose a 15 second rap and post it on tiktok?
Peak Warming Man said:
Rule 303 said:
When you get an SMS that says ‘Do not reply by SMS’, what happens if you reply by SMS?
Your phone will be pretty much unusable for 24 hours as it keeps trying to send the sms that keeps being rebuffed.
It goes into a loop, you can only break the loop by turning it off and on.
That does sound duller than I was hoping for.
Rule 303 said:
Peak Warming Man said:
A lot of people tell me these days that they don’t remember the sixties and when I LOL they say “no I really don’t remember the sixties”
A lot of people tell me that if you remember the sixties you weren’t really there.
I don’t remember the sixties so I must have been there somehow.
Peak Warming Man said:
A lot of people tell me these days that they don’t remember the sixties and when I LOL they say “no I really don’t remember the sixties”
They are bullshitting you.
Bogsnorkler said:
I see my observation of scomo’s lack of knowledge on slavery in australia has gone viral.
I didn’t see your observation but I’m sure that the rest of the world maybe didn’t need any assistance on that.
Witty Rejoinder said:
The Rev Dodgson said:In Brighton?
sibeen said:I just found it funny that 60 years ago that could be a headline in a newspaper and no-one would blink an eye. :)
In the last town I lived in in England they had a shop called “Gay Young Fashions” which survived well into the 1990’s.
Camberley
Witty Rejoinder said:
Bogsnorkler said:
I see my observation of scomo’s lack of knowledge on slavery in australia has gone viral.
Did you compose a 15 second rap and post it on tiktok?
you know me soooo well.
sibeen said:
Speedy said:
Michael V said:No worries.
:)
We too have been making these little dumplings often, as your hint of buying the little pastries from Woolies rather than making them from scratch has made it much more attractive. I have, however, morphed 2 recipes together to make another, so our little dumplings have more of a Russian influence, with the addition of shredded cabbage and soy sauce. Quite in keeping with me not owning a recipe that is not altered in some way.
I must admit that I am a very slow dumpling assembler and would not bother with it myself if I didn’t have speedier assistants. Our batch last weekend was doubled and half of these were frozen raw, then bagged in lots of 20, which is enough for both the boys for their after school snack.
Their after school ‘snack’ is ten wontons each? How big and strapping are these lads?
I’m not sure whether to take that as being too meager a meal or not, but the afternoons are typically spend telling them that they cannot eat a large meal before dinnertime. They are both quite tall and of healthy weight.
Speedy said:
sibeen said:
Speedy said:We too have been making these little dumplings often, as your hint of buying the little pastries from Woolies rather than making them from scratch has made it much more attractive. I have, however, morphed 2 recipes together to make another, so our little dumplings have more of a Russian influence, with the addition of shredded cabbage and soy sauce. Quite in keeping with me not owning a recipe that is not altered in some way.
I must admit that I am a very slow dumpling assembler and would not bother with it myself if I didn’t have speedier assistants. Our batch last weekend was doubled and half of these were frozen raw, then bagged in lots of 20, which is enough for both the boys for their after school snack.
Their after school ‘snack’ is ten wontons each? How big and strapping are these lads?
I’m not sure whether to take that as being too meager a meal or not, but the afternoons are typically spend telling them that they cannot eat a large meal before dinnertime. They are both quite tall and of healthy weight.
I was sort of suggesting that ten wontons could normally be considered a fairly hefty meal rather than a snack.
‘Pray for him’: Man crushed while pulling down Confederate statue”
Sometimes you need to know the limitations of a statue.
Rule 303 said:
Peak Warming Man said:
A lot of people tell me these days that they don’t remember the sixties and when I LOL they say “no I really don’t remember the sixties”
A lot of people tell me that if you remember the sixties you weren’t really there.
Tamb said:
Rule 303 said:
Peak Warming Man said:
A lot of people tell me these days that they don’t remember the sixties and when I LOL they say “no I really don’t remember the sixties”
A lot of people tell me that if you remember the sixties you weren’t really there.
The 60s were the most interesting part of my life. I remember a lot of it quite vividly.
Did you take a metric SydHarb of drugs?
Bogsnorkler said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Bogsnorkler said:
I see my observation of scomo’s lack of knowledge on slavery in australia has gone viral.
Did you compose a 15 second rap and post it on tiktok?
you know me soooo well.
Peak Warming Man said:
‘Pray for him’: Man crushed while pulling down Confederate statue”Sometimes you need to know the limitations of a statue.
nice work there
Rule 303 said:
Tamb said:
Rule 303 said:A lot of people tell me that if you remember the sixties you weren’t really there.
The 60s were the most interesting part of my life. I remember a lot of it quite vividly.Did you take a metric SydHarb of drugs?
dv said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Did you compose a 15 second rap and post it on tiktok?
you know me soooo well.
What publication was that?
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:
Bogsnorkler said:you know me soooo well.
What publication was that?
sibeen said:
Speedy said:
sibeen said:Their after school ‘snack’ is ten wontons each? How big and strapping are these lads?
I’m not sure whether to take that as being too meager a meal or not, but the afternoons are typically spend telling them that they cannot eat a large meal before dinnertime. They are both quite tall and of healthy weight.
I was sort of suggesting that ten wontons could normally be considered a fairly hefty meal rather than a snack.
Oh OK. You had me questioning my parenting there for a bit.
To put that into perspective, we caught up with some friends on the weekend who also have boys the same age as ours. The mother insisted that when the boys were little, one time after a weekend away we all found ourselves quite far from home late at night. Her version of the story was that it was 11pm and I declared that I would just feed my boys white bread, butter and tomato sauce for “dinner”, as there was no other food available. Now this is something I know would never have happened but she insisted it was true. I then encouraged her to ask Mr Speedy, who also insisted that this was something we would never have fed our boys. Needless to say, after this episode I am feeling a little defensive :)
Tamb said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:
What publication was that?
In one part they say slavery in another they sat tantamount to slavery. A bit wavery IMO.
LOL, you need to read it again.
Speedy said:
sibeen said:
Speedy said:I’m not sure whether to take that as being too meager a meal or not, but the afternoons are typically spend telling them that they cannot eat a large meal before dinnertime. They are both quite tall and of healthy weight.
I was sort of suggesting that ten wontons could normally be considered a fairly hefty meal rather than a snack.
Oh OK. You had me questioning my parenting there for a bit.
To put that into perspective, we caught up with some friends on the weekend who also have boys the same age as ours. The mother insisted that when the boys were little, one time after a weekend away we all found ourselves quite far from home late at night. Her version of the story was that it was 11pm and I declared that I would just feed my boys white bread, butter and tomato sauce for “dinner”, as there was no other food available. Now this is something I know would never have happened but she insisted it was true. I then encouraged her to ask Mr Speedy, who also insisted that this was something we would never have fed our boys. Needless to say, after this episode I am feeling a little defensive :)
bread and dripping in our house.
Bogsnorkler said:
Tamb said:
Witty Rejoinder said:What publication was that?
In one part they say slavery in another they sat tantamount to slavery. A bit wavery IMO.LOL, you need to read it again.
Bogsnorkler said:
Speedy said:
sibeen said:I was sort of suggesting that ten wontons could normally be considered a fairly hefty meal rather than a snack.
Oh OK. You had me questioning my parenting there for a bit.
To put that into perspective, we caught up with some friends on the weekend who also have boys the same age as ours. The mother insisted that when the boys were little, one time after a weekend away we all found ourselves quite far from home late at night. Her version of the story was that it was 11pm and I declared that I would just feed my boys white bread, butter and tomato sauce for “dinner”, as there was no other food available. Now this is something I know would never have happened but she insisted it was true. I then encouraged her to ask Mr Speedy, who also insisted that this was something we would never have fed our boys. Needless to say, after this episode I am feeling a little defensive :)
bread and dripping in our house.
Probably stunted your growth.
dv said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Did you compose a 15 second rap and post it on tiktok?
you know me soooo well.
Most forced work conditions are worse (for the victim) than slavery because slaves have a cash value. They’re business assets. Serfs in feudal systems, for example, or dispossessed workers in ‘early’ industrialised countries, have no intrinsic value other than their labour or ability to produce offspring.
Tamb said:
Rule 303 said:
Tamb said:The 60s were the most interesting part of my life. I remember a lot of it quite vividly.
Did you take a metric SydHarb of drugs?
Not a single one. Maybe that’s why I can remember them.
Sounds like it.
Rule 303 said:
Tamb said:
Rule 303 said:Did you take a metric SydHarb of drugs?
Not a single one. Maybe that’s why I can remember them.Sounds like it.
Amongst the general population, I doubt that consumption of harmful drugs was greater in the 60’s than it is now.
Rule 303 said:
dv said:
Bogsnorkler said:you know me soooo well.
Most forced work conditions are worse (for the victim) than slavery because slaves have a cash value. They’re business assets. Serfs in feudal systems, for example, or dispossessed workers in ‘early’ industrialised countries, have no intrinsic value other than their labour or ability to produce offspring.
serfs had a bit more value than that.
Bogsnorkler said:
Rule 303 said:
dv said:
Most forced work conditions are worse (for the victim) than slavery because slaves have a cash value. They’re business assets. Serfs in feudal systems, for example, or dispossessed workers in ‘early’ industrialised countries, have no intrinsic value other than their labour or ability to produce offspring.
serfs had a bit more value than that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serfdom
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:
Bogsnorkler said:you know me soooo well.
What publication was that?
Neither Bingeing nor Googling gives any results for an exact search on “june 3 incorrectly stated australia did not”.
Bogsnorkler said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Rule 303 said:Most forced work conditions are worse (for the victim) than slavery because slaves have a cash value. They’re business assets. Serfs in feudal systems, for example, or dispossessed workers in ‘early’ industrialised countries, have no intrinsic value other than their labour or ability to produce offspring.
serfs had a bit more value than that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serfdom
Bogsnorkler said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Rule 303 said:Most forced work conditions are worse (for the victim) than slavery because slaves have a cash value. They’re business assets. Serfs in feudal systems, for example, or dispossessed workers in ‘early’ industrialised countries, have no intrinsic value other than their labour or ability to produce offspring.
serfs had a bit more value than that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serfdom
I’m sure it was glorious.
Peak Warming Man said:
Listened to todays astrology results being read on the wireless.
Apparently for most signs there is a strong connection between Uranus and the sun, very strong.
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Rule 303 said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Bogsnorkler said:serfs had a bit more value than that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serfdom
I’m sure it was glorious.
it was what it was. they got protection from marauders in return for doing the lord’s works.
Tamb said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Bogsnorkler said:serfs had a bit more value than that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serfdom
The song Sixteen tons describes a relative modern version of debt bondage.
Now the best version was Tennessee Ernie Ford a much underrated singer, actor and entertainer.
Peak Warming Man said:
Tamb said:
Bogsnorkler said:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serfdom
The song Sixteen tons describes a relative modern version of debt bondage.Now the best version was Tennessee Ernie Ford a much underrated singer, actor and entertainer.
Bogsnorkler said:
Rule 303 said:
Bogsnorkler said:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serfdom
I’m sure it was glorious.
it was what it was. they got protection from marauders in return for doing the lord’s works.
Yeah wow. That’s a perspective.
Rule 303 said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Rule 303 said:I’m sure it was glorious.
it was what it was. they got protection from marauders in return for doing the lord’s works.
Yeah wow. That’s a perspective.
Kinda like how you pay taxes and get protection from marauders. welcome to serfdom.
Tamb said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Listened to todays astrology results being read on the wireless.
Apparently for most signs there is a strong connection between Uranus and the sun, very strong.
It is an area which doesn’t get much sun.
I think the sun shies out of mine.
Michael V said:
Tamb said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Listened to todays astrology results being read on the wireless.
Apparently for most signs there is a strong connection between Uranus and the sun, very strong.
It is an area which doesn’t get much sun.I think the sun shies out of mine.
Speedy said:
Michael V said:
ruby said:Drizzly dreary here again (though yesterday had sunshine at last and sunshine will be back tomorrow for another brief appearance).
MV’s dumpling/wonton advertising finally made me attempt them last night. I did the fried and steamed version as I have watched the process at the markets. An older Chinese couple had a dumpling stall next door to the one I work at the farmers markets for years, very popular. There was a small outcry when they didn’t come during lockdown.
I’m pleased to say that my dumplings were really really yummy, and I will also be making them very regularly from now on. Thanks MV for the inspiration!
No worries.
:)
We too have been making these little dumplings often, as your hint of buying the little pastries from Woolies rather than making them from scratch has made it much more attractive. I have, however, morphed 2 recipes together to make another, so our little dumplings have more of a Russian influence, with the addition of shredded cabbage and soy sauce. Quite in keeping with me not owning a recipe that is not altered in some way.
I must admit that I am a very slow dumpling assembler and would not bother with it myself if I didn’t have speedier assistants. Our batch last weekend was doubled and half of these were frozen raw, then bagged in lots of 20, which is enough for both the boys for their after school snack.
Fantastic!
:)
Divine Angel said:
Anyway I came here researching probate and now I have to get back to killing people in my novel.
:)
Tamb said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Tamb said:The song Sixteen tons describes a relative modern version of debt bondage.
Now the best version was Tennessee Ernie Ford a much underrated singer, actor and entertainer.
Indeed. That was the version I had playing in my head.
Whatever version was in Joe vs the Volcano is the one playing in my head.
Bogsnorkler said:
I see my observation of scomo’s lack of knowledge on slavery in australia has gone viral.
Nice.
BTW if you’re into medical thrillers, I recommend Cry of the Firebird by TM Clark.
sibeen said:
Speedy said:
Michael V said:No worries.
:)
We too have been making these little dumplings often, as your hint of buying the little pastries from Woolies rather than making them from scratch has made it much more attractive. I have, however, morphed 2 recipes together to make another, so our little dumplings have more of a Russian influence, with the addition of shredded cabbage and soy sauce. Quite in keeping with me not owning a recipe that is not altered in some way.
I must admit that I am a very slow dumpling assembler and would not bother with it myself if I didn’t have speedier assistants. Our batch last weekend was doubled and half of these were frozen raw, then bagged in lots of 20, which is enough for both the boys for their after school snack.
Their after school ‘snack’ is ten wontons each? How big and strapping are these lads?
That’s around 1100 kJ. Not much energy for growing lads, really.
(One Wonton with meat and veges is 105 -120 kJ. I haven’t been able to get plump wontons below 103 kJ. That’s not surprising, given that one Wonton wrapper is 81 kJ.)
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
Speedy said:We too have been making these little dumplings often, as your hint of buying the little pastries from Woolies rather than making them from scratch has made it much more attractive. I have, however, morphed 2 recipes together to make another, so our little dumplings have more of a Russian influence, with the addition of shredded cabbage and soy sauce. Quite in keeping with me not owning a recipe that is not altered in some way.
I must admit that I am a very slow dumpling assembler and would not bother with it myself if I didn’t have speedier assistants. Our batch last weekend was doubled and half of these were frozen raw, then bagged in lots of 20, which is enough for both the boys for their after school snack.
Their after school ‘snack’ is ten wontons each? How big and strapping are these lads?
That’s around 1100 kJ. Not much energy for growing lads, really.
(One Wonton with meat and veges is 105 -120 kJ. I haven’t been able to get plump wontons below 103 kJ. That’s not surprising, given that one Wonton wrapper is 81 kJ.)
Tamb said:
Michael V said:
sibeen said:Their after school ‘snack’ is ten wontons each? How big and strapping are these lads?
That’s around 1100 kJ. Not much energy for growing lads, really.
(One Wonton with meat and veges is 105 -120 kJ. I haven’t been able to get plump wontons below 103 kJ. That’s not surprising, given that one Wonton wrapper is 81 kJ.)
A wonton rapper. How unusual.
Calls you a mutherfucker just as you’re about to bite into it.
sibeen said:
Tamb said:
Michael V said:That’s around 1100 kJ. Not much energy for growing lads, really.
(One Wonton with meat and veges is 105 -120 kJ. I haven’t been able to get plump wontons below 103 kJ. That’s not surprising, given that one Wonton wrapper is 81 kJ.)
A wonton rapper. How unusual.Calls you a mutherfucker just as you’re about to bite into it.
Tamb said:
Michael V said:
Tamb said:It is an area which doesn’t get much sun.
I think the sun shies out of mine.
You’re DT in disguise?
I think. I don’t know.
sibeen said:
Tamb said:
Michael V said:That’s around 1100 kJ. Not much energy for growing lads, really.
(One Wonton with meat and veges is 105 -120 kJ. I haven’t been able to get plump wontons below 103 kJ. That’s not surprising, given that one Wonton wrapper is 81 kJ.)
A wonton rapper. How unusual.Calls you a mutherfucker just as you’re about to bite into it.
LOLs.
sibeen said:
Tamb said:
Michael V said:That’s around 1100 kJ. Not much energy for growing lads, really.
(One Wonton with meat and veges is 105 -120 kJ. I haven’t been able to get plump wontons below 103 kJ. That’s not surprising, given that one Wonton wrapper is 81 kJ.)
A wonton rapper. How unusual.Calls you a mutherfucker just as you’re about to bite into it.
LOL
Michael V said:
Tamb said:
Michael V said:I think the sun shies out of mine.
You’re DT in disguise?I think. I don’t know.
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
Tamb said:You’re DT in disguise?
I think. I don’t know.
LOL.
A peribumoscope.
I’m back. In case anyone needs to know.
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
Rule 303 said:
‘nings!I have woken after the shittest night’s sleep I’ve had in years, to the realisation that drinking four beers after an aggressive deep-tissue massage (seriously, the dude walked on me) is a really bad idea. Blood chemistry all over the shop.
>sigh<
Ha, I could have told you that.
Yeah thanks.
In other news, I now have personal experience of what it must surely feel like to get CPR. To replicate this experience for yourself, have a 55kg Thai bloke jump on your thoracic spine a few times.
But make sure you are not osteoporotic first.
buffy said:
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:Ha, I could have told you that.
Yeah thanks.
In other news, I now have personal experience of what it must surely feel like to get CPR. To replicate this experience for yourself, have a 55kg Thai bloke jump on your thoracic spine a few times.
But make sure you are not osteoporotic first.
I wonder if they have guidelines about that? Surely they must… (he says, with no confidence at all)
sibeen said:
_ “Gay Nature girl gambols Down Under”_https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-12/terrie-ridgway-girl-robinson-crusoe-great-barrier-reef-qld/12340474
read that
kettle on the flame, i’ll make my own coffee
sibeen said:
Tamb said:
Michael V said:That’s around 1100 kJ. Not much energy for growing lads, really.
(One Wonton with meat and veges is 105 -120 kJ. I haven’t been able to get plump wontons below 103 kJ. That’s not surprising, given that one Wonton wrapper is 81 kJ.)
A wonton rapper. How unusual.Calls you a mutherfucker just as you’re about to bite into it.
LOL
Peak Warming Man said:
sibeen said:
Tamb said:A wonton rapper. How unusual.
Calls you a mutherfucker just as you’re about to bite into it.
LOL
OTOH wanton rappers are common. Indeed Common is one.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-12/fawlty-towers-episode-removed-by-uktv-overracial-slur/12348070
bangs head on desk
sibeen said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-12/fawlty-towers-episode-removed-by-uktv-overracial-slur/12348070bangs head on desk
Crazy virtue signalling.
Peak Warming Man said:
sibeen said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-12/fawlty-towers-episode-removed-by-uktv-overracial-slur/12348070bangs head on desk
Crazy virtue signalling.
So now we should worry that Manuel wasn’t played by a real Spanish person too? (Andrew Sachs is German born)
sibeen said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-12/fawlty-towers-episode-removed-by-uktv-overracial-slur/12348070bangs head on desk
At least the Major didn’t mention the war.
sibeen said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-12/fawlty-towers-episode-removed-by-uktv-overracial-slur/12348070bangs head on desk
damn, those niggers are revolting.
Oh we can’t say the N word anymore. Damn PC!!!!!
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
sibeen said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-12/fawlty-towers-episode-removed-by-uktv-overracial-slur/12348070bangs head on desk
Crazy virtue signalling.
So now we should worry that Manuel wasn’t played by a real Spanish person too? (Andrew Sachs is German born)
Was.
Andrew passed away a whie ago.
You pose a conundrum.
Who would be more offended?
The Spanish for his portrayal of one of them?
Or the Germans for criticising his portrayal of a Spaniard?
Or does it matter, what with Brexit etc?
captain_spalding said:
sibeen said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-12/fawlty-towers-episode-removed-by-uktv-overracial-slur/12348070bangs head on desk
At least the Major didn’t mention the war.
I can’t even remember what the Major said. Does he say “darkies” or something like that?
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-12/fawlty-towers-episode-removed-by-uktv-overracial-slur/12348070bangs head on desk
damn, those niggers are revolting.
Oh we can’t say the N word anymore. Damn PC!!!!!
We can’t say ‘nitrogen’?
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:Crazy virtue signalling.
So now we should worry that Manuel wasn’t played by a real Spanish person too? (Andrew Sachs is German born)
Was.
Andrew passed away a whie ago.
You pose a conundrum.
Who would be more offended?
The Spanish for his portrayal of one of them?
Or the Germans for criticising his portrayal of a Spaniard?
Or does it matter, what with Brexit etc?
In the Spanish dubbed version of Fawlty Towers, Manuel was said to be Italian.
captain_spalding said:
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-12/fawlty-towers-episode-removed-by-uktv-overracial-slur/12348070bangs head on desk
damn, those niggers are revolting.
Oh we can’t say the N word anymore. Damn PC!!!!!
We can’t say ‘nitrogen’?
No, and you can’t call people Ninjas either.
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:
Bogsnorkler said:damn, those niggers are revolting.
Oh we can’t say the N word anymore. Damn PC!!!!!
We can’t say ‘nitrogen’?
No, and you can’t call people Ninjas either.
Or mutants, or teenagers, or turtles.
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:We can’t say ‘nitrogen’?
No, and you can’t call people Ninjas either.
Or mutants, or teenagers, or turtles.
teenagers is still permissible.
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:No, and you can’t call people Ninjas either.
Or mutants, or teenagers, or turtles.
teenagers is still permissible.
“People of teen” is preferable.
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:Or mutants, or teenagers, or turtles.
teenagers is still permissible.
“People of teen” is preferable.
what about the word “women”
Lunch report. Diced mushrooms and garlic in olive oil, heated through, spinach added and wilted, corn kernels added, cooked white rice added. Mixed and cooked together. Little bit cream, little bit grated cheese, mixed. Salt and pepper. Turned out quite nice.
(I used Warrigal greens instead of spinach)
buffy said:
Lunch report. Diced mushrooms and garlic in olive oil, heated through, spinach added and wilted, corn kernels added, cooked white rice added. Mixed and cooked together. Little bit cream, little bit grated cheese, mixed. Salt and pepper. Turned out quite nice.(I used Warrigal greens instead of spinach)
Sounds a tasty enough mixture.
I’ll probably have a cheese toastie.
sibeen said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-12/fawlty-towers-episode-removed-by-uktv-overracial-slur/12348070bangs head on desk
Thought it would be The Germans. They’ve gone too far!
Listen, don’t mention the war. I mentioned it once, but I think I got away with it, all right.
SCIENCE said:
Bubblecar said:
party_pants said:teenagers is still permissible.
“People of teen” is preferable.
what about the word “women”
He said it! He said it!
Erect the guillotine! Put him in the tumbrel! Throw excrement at him!
buffy said:
Lunch report. Diced mushrooms and garlic in olive oil, heated through, spinach added and wilted, corn kernels added, cooked white rice added. Mixed and cooked together. Little bit cream, little bit grated cheese, mixed. Salt and pepper. Turned out quite nice.(I used Warrigal greens instead of spinach)
I’m having a couple of leftover honey-soy chicken wings, with a heap of baby spinach, baby roma tomatoes and an ugly splodge of cooked lentils that mum made. The lentils are delicious and I asked mum for the recipe, which she recounted to me. Not sure if she was just forgetful or becoming one of those weird recipe-guarding people, as I just found half a clove of garlic in there. She didn’t tell me it had garlic in it.
https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/breakfast/australia-once-again-trying-to-pivot-towards-india/12347840
don’t want to wait and see how the COVID-19 is going first ¿
OK, I have to put my “gardening” clothes on and help Mr buffy with some more wood splitting. It’s lovely and sunny outside.
I bought shoes this morning. But I shouldn’t think Spider Lily would be interested in these ones – a bit utilitarian.
https://www.rebelsport.com.au/p/asics-gt-1000-le-d-womens-running-shoes-M58434401.html?dwvar_M58434401_color=Black&dwvar_M58434401_size=US%2011&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIw_Sew5v76QIVy38rCh1uLgcmEAQYAiABEgJ4S_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
Food report: I’m sure we all remember the Scallops episode?
Scallop curry is the answer.
June 1941. “Tuning in radio in trailer at FSA camp. Erie, Pennsylvania.” Medium format acetate negative by John Vachon for the Farm Security Administration.
https://www.pedestrian.tv/news/pauline-hanson-all-lives-matter-motion-defeated/
buffy said:
OK, I have to put my “gardening” clothes on and help Mr buffy with some more wood splitting. It’s lovely and sunny outside.I bought shoes this morning. But I shouldn’t think Spider Lily would be interested in these ones – a bit utilitarian.
https://www.rebelsport.com.au/p/asics-gt-1000-le-d-womens-running-shoes-M58434401.html?dwvar_M58434401_color=Black&dwvar_M58434401_size=US%2011&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIw_Sew5v76QIVy38rCh1uLgcmEAQYAiABEgJ4S_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
Ha! They’re similar to the shoes I live in.
https://www.mountaindesigns.com/womens-clothing/womens-footwear/womens-hiking-shoes/salomon-womens-xa-pro-3d-gtx-shoes/BP90128611-black-black-mineral-grey
My vege garden has grown some strange things. I will post some photos later to try to have these little plants identified.
Bubblecar said:
June 1941. “Tuning in radio in trailer at FSA camp. Erie, Pennsylvania.” Medium format acetate negative by John Vachon for the Farm Security Administration.
My grandmother had a special listening-to-the-radio hat, too.
Bogsnorkler said:
https://www.pedestrian.tv/news/pauline-hanson-all-lives-matter-motion-defeated/
How has she remained alive this long? Seriously, how did she survive childhood?
Bogsnorkler said:
https://www.pedestrian.tv/news/pauline-hanson-all-lives-matter-motion-defeated/
She’s still horrid after all these years.
The galah is trying to kill the dog again. As usual, I leave tiny portions of the things the bird might like to eat. This time it was a little of everything except for the tomatoes. Immediately after I placed the food into his feeder, he threw the chicken wing with bone to the dog.
Ian said:
sibeen said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-12/fawlty-towers-episode-removed-by-uktv-overracial-slur/12348070bangs head on desk
Thought it would be The Germans. They’ve gone too far!
Listen, don’t mention the war. I mentioned it once, but I think I got away with it, all right.
The Major calls the West Indies cricket team niggers in the episode.
Speedy said:
The galah is trying to kill the dog again. As usual, I leave tiny portions of the things the bird might like to eat. This time it was a little of everything except for the tomatoes. Immediately after I placed the food into his feeder, he threw the chicken wing with bone to the dog.
Sure he didn’t accidentally drop it?
Bubblecar said:
June 1941. “Tuning in radio in trailer at FSA camp. Erie, Pennsylvania.” Medium format acetate negative by John Vachon for the Farm Security Administration.
What a world, hey.
December 1940. “Radford, Virginia. Crowd at bar of Busy Bee Restaurant.” Medium format acetate negative by John Vachon for the Farm Security Administration.
Bubblecar said:
December 1940. “Radford, Virginia. Crowd at bar of Busy Bee Restaurant.” Medium format acetate negative by John Vachon for the Farm Security Administration.
Is that bloke in the middle swigging Tabasco Sauce?
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
December 1940. “Radford, Virginia. Crowd at bar of Busy Bee Restaurant.” Medium format acetate negative by John Vachon for the Farm Security Administration.
Is that bloke in the middle swigging Tabasco Sauce?
That’s what I thought too.
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
December 1940. “Radford, Virginia. Crowd at bar of Busy Bee Restaurant.” Medium format acetate negative by John Vachon for the Farm Security Administration.
Is that bloke in the middle swigging Tabasco Sauce?
That’s what I thought too.
Bubblecar said:
Speedy said:
The galah is trying to kill the dog again. As usual, I leave tiny portions of the things the bird might like to eat. This time it was a little of everything except for the tomatoes. Immediately after I placed the food into his feeder, he threw the chicken wing with bone to the dog.
Sure he didn’t accidentally drop it?
This pink beast doesn’t accidentally do anything. In this case, he was so impatient to get to the lentils that, when he found the chicken wing on top blocking his way, it had to go. It landed at the bottom of the cage as these things usually do, where the dog can, if she’s being skillful on the day, reach in and get it out. He has been observed in the past luring the dog in this way and pouncing to bite when she comes near. Needless to say, the kelpie is very respectful of the bird now.
Bubblecar said:
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
December 1940. “Radford, Virginia. Crowd at bar of Busy Bee Restaurant.” Medium format acetate negative by John Vachon for the Farm Security Administration.
Is that bloke in the middle swigging Tabasco Sauce?
That’s what I thought too.
Hardcore, man.
Bubblecar said:
muy caliente
Bubblecar said:
December 1940. “Radford, Virginia. Crowd at bar of Busy Bee Restaurant.” Medium format acetate negative by John Vachon for the Farm Security Administration.
What’s with all the pies and no way to eat them?
I bet he gave the Nips all kinds of hell on Tarawa and Iwo a couple of years later. He ain’t afeared o’ nuthin’.
Rule 303 said:
Bogsnorkler said:
https://www.pedestrian.tv/news/pauline-hanson-all-lives-matter-motion-defeated/
How has she remained alive this long? Seriously, how did she survive childhood?
I’ve never been happy with the Black Lives Matter slogan right from the get go.
Surly they could have come up with something that wasn’t as divisive and racist.
It’s along the same line as gender protest signs saying Believe Woman, that’s just nuts.
Peak Warming Man said:
Rule 303 said:
Bogsnorkler said:
https://www.pedestrian.tv/news/pauline-hanson-all-lives-matter-motion-defeated/
How has she remained alive this long? Seriously, how did she survive childhood?
I’ve never been happy with the Black Lives Matter slogan right from the get go.
Surly they could have come up with something that wasn’t as divisive and racist.
It’s along the same line as gender protest signs saying Believe Woman, that’s just nuts.
Um, the casual killing of black people by police etc is what is actually divisive and racist.
Peak Warming Man said:
Rule 303 said:
Bogsnorkler said:
https://www.pedestrian.tv/news/pauline-hanson-all-lives-matter-motion-defeated/
How has she remained alive this long? Seriously, how did she survive childhood?
I’ve never been happy with the Black Lives Matter slogan right from the get go.
Surly they could have come up with something that wasn’t as divisive and racist.
It’s along the same line as gender protest signs saying Believe Woman, that’s just nuts.
Believe woman…until one accuses the Democratic party nominee, then it’s “shut the fuck up”.
Speedy said:
Bubblecar said:
December 1940. “Radford, Virginia. Crowd at bar of Busy Bee Restaurant.” Medium format acetate negative by John Vachon for the Farm Security Administration.
What’s with all the pies and no way to eat them?
Could be just waiting for someone to order a slice.
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
December 1940. “Radford, Virginia. Crowd at bar of Busy Bee Restaurant.” Medium format acetate negative by John Vachon for the Farm Security Administration.
Is that bloke in the middle swigging Tabasco Sauce?
They were hard men in those days except that they needed to wear a suit to go and have a pie at a three bit diner.
Peak Warming Man said:
Rule 303 said:
Bogsnorkler said:
https://www.pedestrian.tv/news/pauline-hanson-all-lives-matter-motion-defeated/
How has she remained alive this long? Seriously, how did she survive childhood?
I’ve never been happy with the Black Lives Matter slogan right from the get go.
Surly they could have come up with something that wasn’t as divisive and racist.
It’s along the same line as gender protest signs saying Believe Woman, that’s just nuts.
It has always been about you.
Bubblecar said:
Speedy said:
Bubblecar said:
December 1940. “Radford, Virginia. Crowd at bar of Busy Bee Restaurant.” Medium format acetate negative by John Vachon for the Farm Security Administration.
What’s with all the pies and no way to eat them?
Could be just waiting for someone to order a slice.
Probably. The Tabasco guzzling might be an effective appetite suppressant.
Peak Warming Man said:
Rule 303 said:
Bogsnorkler said:
https://www.pedestrian.tv/news/pauline-hanson-all-lives-matter-motion-defeated/
How has she remained alive this long? Seriously, how did she survive childhood?
I’ve never been happy with the Black Lives Matter slogan right from the get go.
Surly they could have come up with something that wasn’t as divisive and racist.
It’s along the same line as gender protest signs saying Believe Woman, that’s just nuts.


Speedy said:
Bubblecar said:
Speedy said:What’s with all the pies and no way to eat them?
Could be just waiting for someone to order a slice.
Probably. The Tabasco guzzling might be an effective appetite suppressant.
Bubblecar said:
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
December 1940. “Radford, Virginia. Crowd at bar of Busy Bee Restaurant.” Medium format acetate negative by John Vachon for the Farm Security Administration.
Is that bloke in the middle swigging Tabasco Sauce?
That’s what I thought too.
Bitters?
Rule 303 said:
Food report: I’m sure we all remember the Scallops episode?Scallop curry is the answer.
What episode?
Chicken noodles washed down with a popular cola.
Rule 303 said:
Bogsnorkler said:
https://www.pedestrian.tv/news/pauline-hanson-all-lives-matter-motion-defeated/
How has she remained alive this long? Seriously, how did she survive childhood?
easy
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-41118417/we-only-kill-black-people
Rule 303 said:
Bubblecar said:
captain_spalding said:Is that bloke in the middle swigging Tabasco Sauce?
That’s what I thought too.
Bitters?
Hardly less of a feat.
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:
Food report: I’m sure we all remember the Scallops episode?Scallop curry is the answer.
What episode?
The one where I bought a whole kg of Scallops (roe off) and made several different dishes out of them.
Rule 303 said:
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:
Food report: I’m sure we all remember the Scallops episode?Scallop curry is the answer.
What episode?
The one where I bought a whole kg of Scallops (roe off) and made several different dishes out of them.
Ah. I thought that maybe you’d had a spectacular failure…
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
December 1940. “Radford, Virginia. Crowd at bar of Busy Bee Restaurant.” Medium format acetate negative by John Vachon for the Farm Security Administration.
Is that bloke in the middle swigging Tabasco Sauce?
They were hard men in those days except that they needed to wear a suit to go and have a pie at a three bit diner.
That’s just a load of fedora, Mr Man and you know it.
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:
Michael V said:What episode?
The one where I bought a whole kg of Scallops (roe off) and made several different dishes out of them.
Ah. I thought that maybe you’d had a spectacular failure…
Spending $38 on Scallops (which I’ve never cooked before) had that potential, but the curry was a smash hit.
Peak Warming Man said:
Chicken noodles washed down with a popular cola.
sings Won’t you come home pearl barley, won’t you come home……………
In goes the pearl barley, along with the swede, turnip, parsnip, celery, leeks, carrots and TWO lamb shanks, and veggie stock, a smidge of chilli flakes and a tad of mixed Italian ‘erbs..
clicks to “low” on the slow cooker.
Just have to wait 6 hours now.
Bogsnorkler said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Rule 303 said:How has she remained alive this long? Seriously, how did she survive childhood?
I’ve never been happy with the Black Lives Matter slogan right from the get go.
Surly they could have come up with something that wasn’t as divisive and racist.
It’s along the same line as gender protest signs saying Believe Woman, that’s just nuts.
And nobody can disagree with or qualify ,i>that without being a utter shit.
Woodie said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Chicken noodles washed down with a popular cola.
sings Won’t you come home pearl barley, won’t you come home……………
In goes the pearl barley, along with the swede, turnip, parsnip, celery, leeks, carrots and TWO lamb shanks, and veggie stock, a smidge of chilli flakes and a tad of mixed Italian ‘erbs..
clicks to “low” on the slow cooker.
Just have to wait 6 hours now.
Woodie said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Chicken noodles washed down with a popular cola.
sings Won’t you come home pearl barley, won’t you come home……………
In goes the pearl barley, along with the swede, turnip, parsnip, celery, leeks, carrots and TWO lamb shanks, and veggie stock, a smidge of chilli flakes and a tad of mixed Italian ‘erbs..
clicks to “low” on the slow cooker.
Just have to wait 6 hours now.
>>swede, turnip, parsnip
Aren’t they all the same thing just spelt differently.
captain_spalding said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Peak Warming Man said:I’ve never been happy with the Black Lives Matter slogan right from the get go.
Surly they could have come up with something that wasn’t as divisive and racist.
It’s along the same line as gender protest signs saying Believe Woman, that’s just nuts.
And nobody can disagree with or qualify ,i>that without being a utter shit.
Black Lives Matter? It’s a helluva lot better and right up there, as opposed to Blacky McBlack Face.
sibeen said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-12/fawlty-towers-episode-removed-by-uktv-overracial-slur/12348070bangs head on desk
The “don’t mention the war” sketch?
Saw that on news this morning, with the sound down.
So what was the racial slur?
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-12/fawlty-towers-episode-removed-by-uktv-overracial-slur/12348070bangs head on desk
The “don’t mention the war” sketch?
Saw that on news this morning, with the sound down.
So what was the racial slur?
The Major said that some black people were made of nitrogen.
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-12/fawlty-towers-episode-removed-by-uktv-overracial-slur/12348070bangs head on desk
The “don’t mention the war” sketch?
Saw that on news this morning, with the sound down.
So what was the racial slur?
Tamb said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-12/fawlty-towers-episode-removed-by-uktv-overracial-slur/12348070bangs head on desk
The “don’t mention the war” sketch?
Saw that on news this morning, with the sound down.
So what was the racial slur?
I think the Major referred to someone as a nigger which was not OK. Even though Germans were called krauts with no backlash.
OTOH, it is perfectly reasonable to regard the word “nigger” as being more offensive than the word “kraut”.
OTOH, I’m not sure that treating the use of the term by a character who is himself intended to be a figure worthy of ridicule and contempt should be regarded as offensive.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Tamb said:
The Rev Dodgson said:The “don’t mention the war” sketch?
Saw that on news this morning, with the sound down.
So what was the racial slur?
I think the Major referred to someone as a nigger which was not OK. Even though Germans were called krauts with no backlash.OTOH, it is perfectly reasonable to regard the word “nigger” as being more offensive than the word “kraut”.
OTOH, I’m not sure that treating the use of the term by a character who is himself intended to be a figure worthy of ridicule and contempt should be regarded as offensive.
That was pretty much to whole ‘vibe’ of the sketch. The major was a buffoon and his use of the term was showing him to be ridiculous and anachronistic.
>staggers in, clutching stomach, laughing helplessly<
A mate’s just re-assigned the people of every postcode in Australia to a single case manager.
That’s gotta be the fuck-up of the day.
Crashed my ROFLcopter into a LOLcano!
The Rev Dodgson said:
Tamb said:
The Rev Dodgson said:The “don’t mention the war” sketch?
Saw that on news this morning, with the sound down.
So what was the racial slur?
I think the Major referred to someone as a nigger which was not OK. Even though Germans were called krauts with no backlash.OTOH, it is perfectly reasonable to regard the word “nigger” as being more offensive than the word “kraut”.
OTOH, I’m not sure that treating the use of the term by a character who is himself intended to be a figure worthy of ridicule and contempt should be regarded as offensive.
Back on the other hand we shouldn’t have a nanny state: companies should be free to decide for themselves what content they find appropriate to host, and perhaps UKTV Plc feel their audience isn’t sophisticated enough to appreciate the nuance.
Disney Plus made a similar call recently in deciding not to host some of their more, um, outdated material such as Song Of The South. The movie still exists, anyone who really wants to see it can still do so, but it’s just not going to be hosted on that particular platform.
Greetings, internet at work has only just started working
Rule 303 said:
>staggers in, clutching stomach, laughing helplessly<A mate’s just re-assigned the people of every postcode in Australia to a single case manager.
That’s gotta be the fuck-up of the day.
Crashed my ROFLcopter into a LOLcano!
:)
Cymek said:
Greetings, internet at work has only just started working
Come in Western Australia- Over
This is Queensland calling – Over.
Cymek said:
Greetings, internet at work has only just started working
>nods<
Nice timing.
sibeen said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Tamb said:I think the Major referred to someone as a nigger which was not OK. Even though Germans were called krauts with no backlash.
OTOH, it is perfectly reasonable to regard the word “nigger” as being more offensive than the word “kraut”.
OTOH, I’m not sure that treating the use of the term by a character who is himself intended to be a figure worthy of ridicule and contempt should be regarded as offensive.
That was pretty much to whole ‘vibe’ of the sketch. The major was a buffoon and his use of the term was showing him to be ridiculous and anachronistic.
Lenny Bruce argued that we should use the word “nigger” for anything: “I’ve had a nigger of a day!” (which could be good or bad), “That’s a nigger of a haircut!” etc. The word would soon lose its meaning and any connotations, and would quickly stop being offensive to anyone.
btm said:
sibeen said:
The Rev Dodgson said:OTOH, it is perfectly reasonable to regard the word “nigger” as being more offensive than the word “kraut”.
OTOH, I’m not sure that treating the use of the term by a character who is himself intended to be a figure worthy of ridicule and contempt should be regarded as offensive.
That was pretty much to whole ‘vibe’ of the sketch. The major was a buffoon and his use of the term was showing him to be ridiculous and anachronistic.
Lenny Bruce argued that we should use the word “nigger” for anything: “I’ve had a nigger of a day!” (which could be good or bad), “That’s a nigger of a haircut!” etc. The word would soon lose its meaning and any connotations, and would quickly stop being offensive to anyone.
What a terrible take.
Cymek said:
Greetings, internet at work has only just started working
Does that qualify you for some form of hardship pay?
So yesterday:
And today:
I’ve moved some of it to the stack, but the rest can wait until tomorrow and I’ll barrow it up to the woodshed.
And where is Tamb? We were talking about the Pug Slouch yesterday. Well, Boxers can do it too!
It’s all about getting your belly warmed by the sun without the indignity of actually rolling on your back with your legs in the air to achieve it. Although she is not averse to the full wriggle on your back thing to scratch it, with added belly benefits.
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Tamb said:I think the Major referred to someone as a nigger which was not OK. Even though Germans were called krauts with no backlash.
OTOH, it is perfectly reasonable to regard the word “nigger” as being more offensive than the word “kraut”.
OTOH, I’m not sure that treating the use of the term by a character who is himself intended to be a figure worthy of ridicule and contempt should be regarded as offensive.
Back on the other hand we shouldn’t have a nanny state: companies should be free to decide for themselves what content they find appropriate to host, and perhaps UKTV Plc feel their audience isn’t sophisticated enough to appreciate the nuance.
Disney Plus made a similar call recently in deciding not to host some of their more, um, outdated material such as Song Of The South. The movie still exists, anyone who really wants to see it can still do so, but it’s just not going to be hosted on that particular platform.
UKTV Pic?
Oh, I thought it was ABC.
Presumably the BBC wiped it from their records long ago, to save buying new recording tape.
buffy said:
So yesterday:
And today:
I’ve moved some of it to the stack, but the rest can wait until tomorrow and I’ll barrow it up to the woodshed.
Splitters!
Speedy said:
The galah is trying to kill the dog again. As usual, I leave tiny portions of the things the bird might like to eat. This time it was a little of everything except for the tomatoes. Immediately after I placed the food into his feeder, he threw the chicken wing with bone to the dog.
Um…we feed the dogs raw chicken wings most nights. What is wrong with chicken wings?
btm said:
sibeen said:
The Rev Dodgson said:OTOH, it is perfectly reasonable to regard the word “nigger” as being more offensive than the word “kraut”.
OTOH, I’m not sure that treating the use of the term by a character who is himself intended to be a figure worthy of ridicule and contempt should be regarded as offensive.
That was pretty much to whole ‘vibe’ of the sketch. The major was a buffoon and his use of the term was showing him to be ridiculous and anachronistic.
Lenny Bruce argued that we should use the word “nigger” for anything: “I’ve had a nigger of a day!” (which could be good or bad), “That’s a nigger of a haircut!” etc. The word would soon lose its meaning and any connotations, and would quickly stop being offensive to anyone.
He’s allowed to say that of course.
To quote some whitey guy from WA, only a ginger can call another ginger ginger.
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:OTOH, it is perfectly reasonable to regard the word “nigger” as being more offensive than the word “kraut”.
OTOH, I’m not sure that treating the use of the term by a character who is himself intended to be a figure worthy of ridicule and contempt should be regarded as offensive.
Back on the other hand we shouldn’t have a nanny state: companies should be free to decide for themselves what content they find appropriate to host, and perhaps UKTV Plc feel their audience isn’t sophisticated enough to appreciate the nuance.
Disney Plus made a similar call recently in deciding not to host some of their more, um, outdated material such as Song Of The South. The movie still exists, anyone who really wants to see it can still do so, but it’s just not going to be hosted on that particular platform.
UKTV Pic?
Oh, I thought it was ABC.
Presumably the BBC wiped it from their records long ago, to save buying new recording tape.
it seems that this has been an ongoing subject of complaints for years. This is not some new thing that has just sprung up. Like some people in Bristol have been campaigning for years to get rid of that statue.
sibeen said:
Cymek said:
Greetings, internet at work has only just started working
Does that qualify you for some form of hardship pay?
Unlikely
dv said:
btm said:
sibeen said:That was pretty much to whole ‘vibe’ of the sketch. The major was a buffoon and his use of the term was showing him to be ridiculous and anachronistic.
Lenny Bruce argued that we should use the word “nigger” for anything: “I’ve had a nigger of a day!” (which could be good or bad), “That’s a nigger of a haircut!” etc. The word would soon lose its meaning and any connotations, and would quickly stop being offensive to anyone.
What a terrible take.
What about “queer”?
Was repossessing that word a terrible take too?
buffy said:
Speedy said:
The galah is trying to kill the dog again. As usual, I leave tiny portions of the things the bird might like to eat. This time it was a little of everything except for the tomatoes. Immediately after I placed the food into his feeder, he threw the chicken wing with bone to the dog.
Um…we feed the dogs raw chicken wings most nights. What is wrong with chicken wings?
It was cooked :)
The Rev Dodgson said:
btm said:
sibeen said:That was pretty much to whole ‘vibe’ of the sketch. The major was a buffoon and his use of the term was showing him to be ridiculous and anachronistic.
Lenny Bruce argued that we should use the word “nigger” for anything: “I’ve had a nigger of a day!” (which could be good or bad), “That’s a nigger of a haircut!” etc. The word would soon lose its meaning and any connotations, and would quickly stop being offensive to anyone.
He’s allowed to say that of course.
To quote some whitey guy from WA, only a ginger can call another ginger ginger.
Lenny Bruce was white
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
btm said:Lenny Bruce argued that we should use the word “nigger” for anything: “I’ve had a nigger of a day!” (which could be good or bad), “That’s a nigger of a haircut!” etc. The word would soon lose its meaning and any connotations, and would quickly stop being offensive to anyone.
He’s allowed to say that of course.
To quote some whitey guy from WA, only a ginger can call another ginger ginger.
Lenny Bruce was white
Sorry, I was thinking of Lenny Henry.
Speedy said:
buffy said:
Speedy said:
The galah is trying to kill the dog again. As usual, I leave tiny portions of the things the bird might like to eat. This time it was a little of everything except for the tomatoes. Immediately after I placed the food into his feeder, he threw the chicken wing with bone to the dog.
Um…we feed the dogs raw chicken wings most nights. What is wrong with chicken wings?
It was cooked :)
Ah, OK, so possible splinteries.
The Rev Dodgson said:
btm said:
sibeen said:That was pretty much to whole ‘vibe’ of the sketch. The major was a buffoon and his use of the term was showing him to be ridiculous and anachronistic.
Lenny Bruce argued that we should use the word “nigger” for anything: “I’ve had a nigger of a day!” (which could be good or bad), “That’s a nigger of a haircut!” etc. The word would soon lose its meaning and any connotations, and would quickly stop being offensive to anyone.
He’s allowed to say that of course.
To quote some whitey guy from WA, only a ginger can call another ginger ginger.
I’ve never said that!!!
buffy said:
Speedy said:
The galah is trying to kill the dog again. As usual, I leave tiny portions of the things the bird might like to eat. This time it was a little of everything except for the tomatoes. Immediately after I placed the food into his feeder, he threw the chicken wing with bone to the dog.
Um…we feed the dogs raw chicken wings most nights. What is wrong with chicken wings?
From an aerodynamic perspective, lots of things.

1934. Santa Claus handing out toys to children on the barges of Brentford, Essex.
![]()
Rule 303 said:
>staggers in, clutching stomach, laughing helplessly<A mate’s just re-assigned the people of every postcode in Australia to a single case manager.
That’s gotta be the fuck-up of the day.
Crashed my ROFLcopter into a LOLcano!
Ha!
Bubblecar said:
1934. Santa Claus handing out toys to children on the barges of Brentford, Essex.
How to bring up a family in a space the size of 2.5 phone boxes.
The Rev Dodgson said:
btm said:
sibeen said:That was pretty much to whole ‘vibe’ of the sketch. The major was a buffoon and his use of the term was showing him to be ridiculous and anachronistic.
Lenny Bruce argued that we should use the word “nigger” for anything: “I’ve had a nigger of a day!” (which could be good or bad), “That’s a nigger of a haircut!” etc. The word would soon lose its meaning and any connotations, and would quickly stop being offensive to anyone.
He’s allowed to say that of course.
To quote some whitey guy from WA, only a ginger can call another ginger ginger.
‘Do some soul-searching’: China says Australia should protect Chinese nationals
By Tracey Shelton and Kai Feng
China says Australia should “face up to its problems” and protect the safety and rights of Chinese nationals after earlier warning its citizens it was not safe to travel or study in Australia due to “racist incidents” during the coronavirus pandemic.
‘Yoo-hoo, Kettle! Hi, it’s Pot here. Guess what, i’m calling you a particular colour, or absence thereof. Y’know what i mean, hmm?’
I’m so fed up with these ticks.
Just got one out of the web between little & ring finger.
Roll on the first frost.
Tamb said:
I’m so fed up with these ticks.
Just got one out of the web between little & ring finger.
Roll on the first frost.
Damn. Bigguns?
Thinking we’ll give Baptiste a go on ABC at 8.30 tonight.
dv said:
Tamb said:
I’m so fed up with these ticks.
Just got one out of the web between little & ring finger.
Roll on the first frost.
Damn. Bigguns?
Tamb said:
dv said:
Tamb said:
I’m so fed up with these ticks.
Just got one out of the web between little & ring finger.
Roll on the first frost.
Damn. Bigguns?
Only a scrubby this time. 3 days ago I got a paralysis one in my neck.
Nasty.
buffy said:
Thinking we’ll give Baptiste a go on ABC at 8.30 tonight.
Just talking to the older sister on the phone and she mentioned she’ll be watching that.
She had her final radiation treatment today and is very relieved that’s over and done with.
Xmas 1935: People having a party on LMS train.
![]()
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Thinking we’ll give Baptiste a go on ABC at 8.30 tonight.
Just talking to the older sister on the phone and she mentioned she’ll be watching that.
She had her final radiation treatment today and is very relieved that’s over and done with.
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Thinking we’ll give Baptiste a go on ABC at 8.30 tonight.
Just talking to the older sister on the phone and she mentioned she’ll be watching that.
She had her final radiation treatment today and is very relieved that’s over and done with.
She has my sympathy. Did she ring the bell?
Yep :)
She was quite surprised at all the special festive touches for her last treatment. The nursing staff were all wearing party hats and gave her a laser light show on the ceiling.
I’d better call FNDC since I’m enjoying a nice fruity shiraz with a little tub of marinated “Mediterranean mix” (cubed feta, dried tomatoes, black olives etc) from the IGA deli.
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:Just talking to the older sister on the phone and she mentioned she’ll be watching that.
She had her final radiation treatment today and is very relieved that’s over and done with.
She has my sympathy. Did she ring the bell?
Yep :)
She was quite surprised at all the special festive touches for her last treatment. The nursing staff were all wearing party hats and gave her a laser light show on the ceiling.
:)
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:Just talking to the older sister on the phone and she mentioned she’ll be watching that.
She had her final radiation treatment today and is very relieved that’s over and done with.
She has my sympathy. Did she ring the bell?
Yep :)
She was quite surprised at all the special festive touches for her last treatment. The nursing staff were all wearing party hats and gave her a laser light show on the ceiling.
1936. Chef Morsien Huber puts the final touches to his 1200lb Christmas cake, which he has modelled on Tower Bridge. It will be cut by Father Christmas and sold.
![]()
I love this FB group
Scott Morrison says slavery comments were about New South Wales colony, apologises for causing offence
…..Yesterday, in defending the legacy of Captain James Cook, Scott Morrison told radio station 2GB Australia was not founded as a slave colony and that “there was no slavery in Australia”.
“Australia, when it was founded as a settlement, as NSW, was on the basis that there be no slavery, while slave ships continued to travel around the world,” he said.
“Yeah sure, it was a pretty brutal settlement, my forefathers and foremothers were on the first and second fleets, it was a pretty brutal place, but there was no slavery in Australia.”
Speaking after National Cabinet today he clarified the remarks.
“The comments I was referring to was how the New South Wales settlement was first established and the views that were communicated at the time in forming the New South Wales colony,” Mr Morrison said.
“One of the principles was to be that Australia, or in that case NSW, was not to have lawful slavery. And that was indeed the case, there was not the laws that have ever approved of slavery in this country.
“My comments were not intended to give offence and if they did I deeply regret that and apologise for that.”
The Prime Minister said Federal Parliament had acknowledged the historical mistreatment of Indigenous people and South Sea Islanders, and that ensuring reconciliation and progress on recognition for First Nations peoples was something he was “heavily invested” in.
“I think anyone who has seen my commentary from the very first speech I made in this place, I have had an enduring and committed passion to closing the gap,” Mr Morrison said.
“I genuinely don’t think there are large divisions when it comes to the issue of acknowledging the treatment of Indigenous Australians in this country.”
more..
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-12/pm-apologises-offence-caused-slavery-comments-clarifies-remarks/12348716
Hey poindexter, what is the “closed hold” of a ship?
dv said:
Hey poindexter, what is the “closed hold” of a ship?
I think it means the lowest hold which is not usually ventilated.
sarahs mum said:
Scott Morrison says slavery comments were about New South Wales colony, apologises for causing offence…..Yesterday, in defending the legacy of Captain James Cook, Scott Morrison told radio station 2GB Australia was not founded as a slave colony and that “there was no slavery in Australia”.
“Australia, when it was founded as a settlement, as NSW, was on the basis that there be no slavery, while slave ships continued to travel around the world,” he said.
“Yeah sure, it was a pretty brutal settlement, my forefathers and foremothers were on the first and second fleets, it was a pretty brutal place, but there was no slavery in Australia.”
Speaking after National Cabinet today he clarified the remarks.
“The comments I was referring to was how the New South Wales settlement was first established and the views that were communicated at the time in forming the New South Wales colony,” Mr Morrison said.
“One of the principles was to be that Australia, or in that case NSW, was not to have lawful slavery. And that was indeed the case, there was not the laws that have ever approved of slavery in this country.
“My comments were not intended to give offence and if they did I deeply regret that and apologise for that.”
The Prime Minister said Federal Parliament had acknowledged the historical mistreatment of Indigenous people and South Sea Islanders, and that ensuring reconciliation and progress on recognition for First Nations peoples was something he was “heavily invested” in.
“I think anyone who has seen my commentary from the very first speech I made in this place, I have had an enduring and committed passion to closing the gap,” Mr Morrison said.
“I genuinely don’t think there are large divisions when it comes to the issue of acknowledging the treatment of Indigenous Australians in this country.”
more..
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-12/pm-apologises-offence-caused-slavery-comments-clarifies-remarks/12348716
We need the press to start interjecting and asking him whether this is in reference to NSW or Australia. (Are we expected to know when a Prime Minister is talking about NSW ?)
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Hey poindexter, what is the “closed hold” of a ship?
I think it means the lowest hold which is not usually ventilated.
I would guess it was the centre storage bit but in this context it had a roof.
Isn’t there a diagram to be had?
“I genuinely don’t think there are large divisions when it comes to the issue of acknowledging the treatment of Indigenous Australians in this country.”
hmmm
The Rev Dodgson said:
“I genuinely don’t think there are large divisions when it comes to the issue of acknowledging the treatment of Indigenous Australians in this country.”hmmm
I mean I guess I must have imagined all those people going on about the “black armband view”.
The Rev Dodgson said:
“I genuinely don’t think there are large divisions when it comes to the issue of acknowledging the treatment of Indigenous Australians in this country.”hmmm
Nothing happening here.
It’s not really acknowledgement.
Bubblecar said:
I’d better call FNDC since I’m enjoying a nice fruity shiraz with a little tub of marinated “Mediterranean mix” (cubed feta, dried tomatoes, black olives etc) from the IGA deli.
Here’s to a temperance supper,
With water in glasses tall,
With coffee and tea to end with.
And me not there at all.
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Hey poindexter, what is the “closed hold” of a ship?
I think it means the lowest hold which is not usually ventilated.
cheers, makes sense
I have a chilblain.
The Rev Dodgson said:
“I genuinely don’t think there are large divisions when it comes to the issue of acknowledging the treatment of Indigenous Australians in this country.”hmmm
I think you should ask Janina, sm’s neighbour about that. But I might have her all wrong.
sarahs mum said:
I have a chilblain.
Ooh. Foot or hand?
Tonight’s dinner will just be a carbon copy of last night’s, I’m thinking.
Tamb said:
I’m so fed up with these ticks.
Just got one out of the web between little & ring finger.
Roll on the first frost.
Can you use a repellent?
Bubblecar said:
Tonight’s dinner will just be a carbon copy of last night’s, I’m thinking.
Spuds are on the boil large piece of smoked cod is in the pan ready for poaching in milk and the spinach has been destalked and ready to be lightly fried in butter.
White sauce ingredients strategically placed in readiness.
This all becomes very busy at the end, a lot happening at once.
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Hey poindexter, what is the “closed hold” of a ship?
I think it means the lowest hold which is not usually ventilated.
ah, the chokehold
buffy said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
“I genuinely don’t think there are large divisions when it comes to the issue of acknowledging the treatment of Indigenous Australians in this country.”hmmm
I think you should ask Janina, sm’s neighbour about that. But I might have her all wrong.
I think she likes Aboriginals more than Sudanese. She was upset about BHP wiping out the cave. But she does think that aboriginals destroy their housing and so don’t deserve housing.Today’s conversation did include ‘why aborigine get drunk’ and genetics. Not my specialty but I tried.
captain_spalding said:
‘Do some soul-searching’: China says Australia should protect Chinese nationalsBy Tracey Shelton and Kai Feng
China says Australia should “face up to its problems” and protect the safety and rights of Chinese nationals after earlier warning its citizens it was not safe to travel or study in Australia due to “racist incidents” during the coronavirus pandemic.‘Yoo-hoo, Kettle! Hi, it’s Pot here. Guess what, i’m calling you a particular colour, or absence thereof. Y’know what i mean, hmm?’
so what colour is that now eh, what colour is that
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
I have a chilblain.
Ooh. Foot or hand?
left foot. Second toe.
I’m going to have find the explorers.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Tonight’s dinner will just be a carbon copy of last night’s, I’m thinking.
Spuds are on the boil large piece of smoked cod is in the pan ready for poaching in milk and the spinach has been destalked and ready to be lightly fried in butter.
White sauce ingredients strategically placed in readiness.
This all becomes very busy at the end, a lot happening at once.
Did we do the ABC quiz this week? 6/10. Lots of bad guessing.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-12/news-quiz-friday-june-12/12340954
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Tonight’s dinner will just be a carbon copy of last night’s, I’m thinking.
Spuds are on the boil large piece of smoked cod is in the pan ready for poaching in milk and the spinach has been destalked and ready to be lightly fried in butter.
White sauce ingredients strategically placed in readiness.
This all becomes very busy at the end, a lot happening at once.
Sounds good.
sarahs mum said:
She was upset about BHP wiping out the cave. But she does think that aboriginals destroy their housing and so don’t deserve housing.
hmm yeah speaking of housing and destroy
Bubblecar said:
Tonight’s dinner will just be a carbon copy of last night’s, I’m thinking.
Pizza from the pub here tonight. In about 20 minutes, I should think. Mr buffy will get a text when it is ready.
SCIENCE said:
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Hey poindexter, what is the “closed hold” of a ship?
I think it means the lowest hold which is not usually ventilated.
ah, the chokehold
Dark, but well done.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
I have a chilblain.
Ooh. Foot or hand?
left foot. Second toe.
I’m going to have find the explorers.
Who/what are the explorers?
buffy said:
Did we do the ABC quiz this week? 6/10. Lots of bad guessing.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-12/news-quiz-friday-june-12/12340954
It doesn’t format properly in IE anymore.
I don’t know what they’ve done.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:Ooh. Foot or hand?
left foot. Second toe.
I’m going to have find the explorers.
Who/what are the explorers?
Socks. I’ve got my woollen Explorers on now.
SCIENCE said:
sarahs mum said:She was upset about BHP wiping out the cave. But she does think that aboriginals destroy their housing and so don’t deserve housing.
hmm yeah speaking of housing and destroy
yeah.
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:left foot. Second toe.
I’m going to have find the explorers.
Who/what are the explorers?
Socks. I’ve got my woollen Explorers on now.
Ah, of course.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:Ooh. Foot or hand?
left foot. Second toe.
I’m going to have find the explorers.
Who/what are the explorers?
socks.Have you never had explorers?
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:left foot. Second toe.
I’m going to have find the explorers.
Who/what are the explorers?
socks.Have you never had explorers?
Aye, I’m wearing their equivalent right now.
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
btm said:Lenny Bruce argued that we should use the word “nigger” for anything: “I’ve had a nigger of a day!” (which could be good or bad), “That’s a nigger of a haircut!” etc. The word would soon lose its meaning and any connotations, and would quickly stop being offensive to anyone.
What a terrible take.
What about “queer”?
Was repossessing that word a terrible take too?
intention is everything (sentiments behind, even slights of casual indifference I guess), whether whatever is discernibly denigrating, or lends to denigration
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:left foot. Second toe.
I’m going to have find the explorers.
Who/what are the explorers?
Socks. I’ve got my woollen Explorers on now.
They are really good socks, last for many years, I have them for work so are on my feet for about 10 hours a day
transition said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:What a terrible take.
What about “queer”?
Was repossessing that word a terrible take too?
intention is everything (sentiments behind, even slights of casual indifference I guess), whether whatever is discernibly denigrating, or lends to denigration
Language Evolves, Like Humans
transition said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:What a terrible take.
What about “queer”?
Was repossessing that word a terrible take too?
intention is everything (sentiments behind, even slights of casual indifference I guess), whether whatever is discernibly denigrating, or lends to denigration
latter goes to adverse attention, undeserved
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:Who/what are the explorers?
socks.Have you never had explorers?
Aye, I’m wearing their equivalent right now.
I’m trying to make my woollen boys’ Explorers last as long as possible. I haven’t been able to get any for years now. I should look up woollen boys’ socks. My foot is too small for the small men’s sizes and the women’s socks aren’t wool. Or they weren’t last time I looked.
transition said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:What a terrible take.
What about “queer”?
Was repossessing that word a terrible take too?
intention is everything (sentiments behind, even slights of casual indifference I guess), whether whatever is discernibly denigrating, or lends to denigration
Blacks attempt/attempted to make the world nigger/nigga less offence by using it amongst themselves and it media/music
sarahs mum said:
I have a chilblain.
Bugger. Not good.
:(
Cymek said:
transition said:
The Rev Dodgson said:What about “queer”?
Was repossessing that word a terrible take too?
intention is everything (sentiments behind, even slights of casual indifference I guess), whether whatever is discernibly denigrating, or lends to denigration
Blacks attempt/attempted to make the world nigger/nigga less offence by using it amongst themselves and it media/music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsJIUJjQ4OA
transition said:
transition said:
The Rev Dodgson said:What about “queer”?
Was repossessing that word a terrible take too?
intention is everything (sentiments behind, even slights of casual indifference I guess), whether whatever is discernibly denigrating, or lends to denigration
latter goes to adverse attention, undeserved
inviting, inciting etc, appealing to
Cymek said:
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:Who/what are the explorers?
Socks. I’ve got my woollen Explorers on now.
They are really good socks, last for many years, I have them for work so are on my feet for about 10 hours a day
I have a polished slab. And now the floor in the kitchen and the other end of the living room/bedrooms is cold. I need to be slipping on the slippers more and wearing soxes.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Tonight’s dinner will just be a carbon copy of last night’s, I’m thinking.
Spuds are on the boil large piece of smoked cod is in the pan ready for poaching in milk and the spinach has been destalked and ready to be lightly fried in butter.
White sauce ingredients strategically placed in readiness.
This all becomes very busy at the end, a lot happening at once.
I prefer smoked cod either pan-fried or oven baked, and served with steamed vegetables.
SCIENCE said:
Cymek said:
transition said:intention is everything (sentiments behind, even slights of casual indifference I guess), whether whatever is discernibly denigrating, or lends to denigration
Blacks attempt/attempted to make the world nigger/nigga less offence by using it amongst themselves and it media/music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsJIUJjQ4OA
Something I found amusing was “fans” of Rage Against The Machine were upset the band suddenly became political in this instance about Black Lives Matter
I mean c’mon did they listen to any lyrics to any songs at all and the band name says a lot
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Tonight’s dinner will just be a carbon copy of last night’s, I’m thinking.
Spuds are on the boil large piece of smoked cod is in the pan ready for poaching in milk and the spinach has been destalked and ready to be lightly fried in butter.
White sauce ingredients strategically placed in readiness.
This all becomes very busy at the end, a lot happening at once.I prefer smoked cod either pan-fried or oven baked, and served with steamed vegetables.
I usually bake it and serve in a kedgeree.
Cymek said:
transition said:
The Rev Dodgson said:What about “queer”?
Was repossessing that word a terrible take too?
intention is everything (sentiments behind, even slights of casual indifference I guess), whether whatever is discernibly denigrating, or lends to denigration
Blacks attempt/attempted to make the world nigger/nigga less offence by using it amongst themselves and it media/music
what’s wrong with a given name, first name, whatever
I’ve just returned from the shops as Speedy Jnr wanted a few more plain white T-shirts to wear underneath his school shirt. We bought some sushi on special, as it was late in the day, and now it’s all been devoured by the boys. I was going to make a lasagne tonight, but I’m unsure whether they will be hungry once I make it. Mr Speedy is on his way down from Newcastle so I might wait until he gets home and we can discuss what to do then. Besides, he has left a huge mess in the kitchen and I don’t want to cook in it until he cleans it up. So I am here, sipping a glass of red, waiting.
transition said:
Cymek said:
transition said:intention is everything (sentiments behind, even slights of casual indifference I guess), whether whatever is discernibly denigrating, or lends to denigration
Blacks attempt/attempted to make the world nigger/nigga less offence by using it amongst themselves and it media/music
what’s wrong with a given name, first name, whatever
Nothing but the more you react to an insult the more people will continue it, you can appropriate it and disarm the word so its almost a badge of pride instead of a slur
Speedy said:
I’ve just returned from the shops as Speedy Jnr wanted a few more plain white T-shirts to wear underneath his school shirt. We bought some sushi on special, as it was late in the day, and now it’s all been devoured by the boys. I was going to make a lasagne tonight, but I’m unsure whether they will be hungry once I make it. Mr Speedy is on his way down from Newcastle so I might wait until he gets home and we can discuss what to do then. Besides, he has left a huge mess in the kitchen and I don’t want to cook in it until he cleans it up. So I am here, sipping a glass of red, waiting.
Sounds like a plan.
Cymek said:
SCIENCE said:
Cymek said:Blacks attempt/attempted to make the world nigger/nigga less offence by using it amongst themselves and it media/music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsJIUJjQ4OA
Something I found amusing was “fans” of Rage Against The Machine were upset the band suddenly became political in this instance about Black Lives Matter
I mean c’mon did they listen to any lyrics to any songs at all and the band name says a lot
fuck you
Speedy said:
I’ve just returned from the shops as Speedy Jnr wanted a few more plain white T-shirts to wear underneath his school shirt. We bought some sushi on special, as it was late in the day, and now it’s all been devoured by the boys. I was going to make a lasagne tonight, but I’m unsure whether they will be hungry once I make it. Mr Speedy is on his way down from Newcastle so I might wait until he gets home and we can discuss what to do then. Besides, he has left a huge mess in the kitchen and I don’t want to cook in it until he cleans it up. So I am here, sipping a glass of red, waiting.
:)
I’m sipping a glass of red too, waiting for my one-baking-tin meal to cook.
At one end are the halved baby potatoes (already parboiled) nestled in their olive oil, butter and lemon pepper. I’ll add a squeeze of lemon to them shortly.
In the middle is a large loin pork chop, and at the end is a heap of chopped onion and garlic cooking in more olive oil, waiting for the sauerkraut and caraway to be added.
transition said:
Cymek said:
transition said:intention is everything (sentiments behind, even slights of casual indifference I guess), whether whatever is discernibly denigrating, or lends to denigration
Blacks attempt/attempted to make the world nigger/nigga less offence by using it amongst themselves and it media/music
what’s wrong with a given name, first name, whatever
for all the talk on the subject, intellectual effort cough, and interest cough, you know a first name, a friendly grunt that’s accepted by a person, that points to a person respectfully might be, well, good manners
i’m not much into the tribal thing, doesn’t matter what it is, even Australians
Cymek said:
transition said:
Cymek said:Blacks attempt/attempted to make the world nigger/nigga less offence by using it amongst themselves and it media/music
what’s wrong with a given name, first name, whatever
Nothing but the more you react to an insult the more people will continue it, you can appropriate it and disarm the word so its almost a badge of pride instead of a slur

We also bumped into an old schoolmate of Speedy Jnr at the shops. They were very good friends for a while before they went their separate ways. He lived with his grandparents as, he told me years ago, his own parents lost custody of him when he was a baby. His grandmother died suddenly only a couple of years ago and his grandfather has been raising him on his own. Recently, the boy had left school, and he told me today that he was studying for his HSC elsewhere as he was being bullied at school. He also added that just before Christmas, his mum had committed suicide :( I had met her once and it was obvious that there was a serious mental health issue there, but gee, this boy has had a hard start to life.
Speedy Jnr asked him for his mobile no. (which surprised me as he is not the assertive kind) and suggested they go for a bike ride. We’ll see if that eventuates.
sibeen said:
Cymek said:
SCIENCE said:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsJIUJjQ4OA
Something I found amusing was “fans” of Rage Against The Machine were upset the band suddenly became political in this instance about Black Lives Matter
I mean c’mon did they listen to any lyrics to any songs at all and the band name says a lot
fuck you
Which machine did they think was being raged against?
Cymek said:
transition said:
The Rev Dodgson said:What about “queer”?
Was repossessing that word a terrible take too?
intention is everything (sentiments behind, even slights of casual indifference I guess), whether whatever is discernibly denigrating, or lends to denigration
Blacks attempt/attempted to make the world nigger/nigga less offence by using it amongst themselves and it media/music
For Sibeen:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Epw0J45X-FIQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw2ss_ohUiHzjCb8bha-3uJ5
SCIENCE said:
Cymek said:
transition said:what’s wrong with a given name, first name, whatever
Nothing but the more you react to an insult the more people will continue it, you can appropriate it and disarm the word so its almost a badge of pride instead of a slur
DA
Neophyte said:
sibeen said:
Cymek said:Something I found amusing was “fans” of Rage Against The Machine were upset the band suddenly became political in this instance about Black Lives Matter
I mean c’mon did they listen to any lyrics to any songs at all and the band name says a lot
fuck you
Which machine did they think was being raged against?
Don’t know but it was pretty obvious they were against the status quo
Bubblecar said:
Speedy said:
I’ve just returned from the shops as Speedy Jnr wanted a few more plain white T-shirts to wear underneath his school shirt. We bought some sushi on special, as it was late in the day, and now it’s all been devoured by the boys. I was going to make a lasagne tonight, but I’m unsure whether they will be hungry once I make it. Mr Speedy is on his way down from Newcastle so I might wait until he gets home and we can discuss what to do then. Besides, he has left a huge mess in the kitchen and I don’t want to cook in it until he cleans it up. So I am here, sipping a glass of red, waiting.
:)
I’m sipping a glass of red too, waiting for my one-baking-tin meal to cook.
At one end are the halved baby potatoes (already parboiled) nestled in their olive oil, butter and lemon pepper. I’ll add a squeeze of lemon to them shortly.
In the middle is a large loin pork chop, and at the end is a heap of chopped onion and garlic cooking in more olive oil, waiting for the sauerkraut and caraway to be added.
That sounds like a yummy meal. Do you make a sweeter or saltier sauerkraut?
UKTV removes Fawlty Towers episode The Germans from streaming service over racist slurs
Why not just warn people the Episodes contain racial slurs, and let the people decide if they want to watch it or not.
Radio stations warn people music contain bad language. What the problem the tv or streaming doing the same thing?
Witty Rejoinder said:
Cymek said:
transition said:intention is everything (sentiments behind, even slights of casual indifference I guess), whether whatever is discernibly denigrating, or lends to denigration
Blacks attempt/attempted to make the world nigger/nigga less offence by using it amongst themselves and it media/music
For Sibeen:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Epw0J45X-FIQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw2ss_ohUiHzjCb8bha-3uJ5
raises eyebrows
Tau.Neutrino said:
UKTV removes Fawlty Towers episode The Germans from streaming service over racist slursWhy not just warn people the Episodes contain racial slurs, and let the people decide if they want to watch it or not.
Radio stations warn people music contain bad language. What the problem the tv or streaming doing the same thing?
I wonder if the world Cracka is allowed
Speedy said:
Bubblecar said:
Speedy said:
I’ve just returned from the shops as Speedy Jnr wanted a few more plain white T-shirts to wear underneath his school shirt. We bought some sushi on special, as it was late in the day, and now it’s all been devoured by the boys. I was going to make a lasagne tonight, but I’m unsure whether they will be hungry once I make it. Mr Speedy is on his way down from Newcastle so I might wait until he gets home and we can discuss what to do then. Besides, he has left a huge mess in the kitchen and I don’t want to cook in it until he cleans it up. So I am here, sipping a glass of red, waiting.
:)
I’m sipping a glass of red too, waiting for my one-baking-tin meal to cook.
At one end are the halved baby potatoes (already parboiled) nestled in their olive oil, butter and lemon pepper. I’ll add a squeeze of lemon to them shortly.
In the middle is a large loin pork chop, and at the end is a heap of chopped onion and garlic cooking in more olive oil, waiting for the sauerkraut and caraway to be added.
That sounds like a yummy meal. Do you make a sweeter or saltier sauerkraut?
This is imported Russian sauerkraut (which includes fermented carrot and horseradish) which is sour but not face-pullingly so. I mix it with onion, garlic and a judicious sprinkle of caraway seeds and heat in a little oil.
I’ve been threatening to ferment my own jars of sauerkraut and will probably do so soon.
And while I’m at it:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j8TCU7qPmp8
sibeen said:
Cymek said:
SCIENCE said:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsJIUJjQ4OA
Something I found amusing was “fans” of Rage Against The Machine were upset the band suddenly became political in this instance about Black Lives Matter
I mean c’mon did they listen to any lyrics to any songs at all and the band name says a lot
fuck you
Sibeen seems unlikely to do anything you tell him to.
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:
Cymek said:Something I found amusing was “fans” of Rage Against The Machine were upset the band suddenly became political in this instance about Black Lives Matter
I mean c’mon did they listen to any lyrics to any songs at all and the band name says a lot
fuck you
Sibeen seems unlikely to do anything you tell him to.
Tell him to open an invalid stout.
Tau.Neutrino said:
UKTV removes Fawlty Towers episode The Germans from streaming service over racist slursWhy not just warn people the Episodes contain racial slurs, and let the people decide if they want to watch it or not.
Radio stations warn people music contain bad language. What the problem the tv or streaming doing the same thing?
That does sound sensible
It could apply to movies about slaves, Roots, Django Unchained and books considered classics Tom Sawyer for example
Witty Rejoinder said:
And while I’m at it:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j8TCU7qPmp8
Seen that one before. Actually I think it was the only sketch that I’d ever seen of Chappelle’s prior to this evening.
Bubblecar said:
Speedy said:
Bubblecar said::)
I’m sipping a glass of red too, waiting for my one-baking-tin meal to cook.
At one end are the halved baby potatoes (already parboiled) nestled in their olive oil, butter and lemon pepper. I’ll add a squeeze of lemon to them shortly.
In the middle is a large loin pork chop, and at the end is a heap of chopped onion and garlic cooking in more olive oil, waiting for the sauerkraut and caraway to be added.
That sounds like a yummy meal. Do you make a sweeter or saltier sauerkraut?
This is imported Russian sauerkraut (which includes fermented carrot and horseradish) which is sour but not face-pullingly so. I mix it with onion, garlic and a judicious sprinkle of caraway seeds and heat in a little oil.
I’ve been threatening to ferment my own jars of sauerkraut and will probably do so soon.
The carrot would give it some sweetness, I guess, so probably a perfectly balanced sauerkraut. My mum makes it using shredded cabbage and a jar of bought stuff, then adds the onion, garlic, caraway and other stuff (like….and she would never admit to it….but I’ve seen her add it with my own eyes……..sugar) too, to make my preferred sauerkraut the sweeter style.
Bubblecar said:
Speedy said:
Bubblecar said::)
I’m sipping a glass of red too, waiting for my one-baking-tin meal to cook.
At one end are the halved baby potatoes (already parboiled) nestled in their olive oil, butter and lemon pepper. I’ll add a squeeze of lemon to them shortly.
In the middle is a large loin pork chop, and at the end is a heap of chopped onion and garlic cooking in more olive oil, waiting for the sauerkraut and caraway to be added.
That sounds like a yummy meal. Do you make a sweeter or saltier sauerkraut?
This is imported Russian sauerkraut (which includes fermented carrot and horseradish) which is sour but not face-pullingly so. I mix it with onion, garlic and a judicious sprinkle of caraway seeds and heat in a little oil.
I’ve been threatening to ferment my own jars of sauerkraut and will probably do so soon.
The carrot would give it some sweetness, I guess, so probably a perfectly balanced sauerkraut. My mum makes it using shredded cabbage and a jar of bought stuff, then adds the onion, garlic, caraway and other stuff (like….and she would never admit to it….but I’ve seen her add it with my own eyes……..sugar) too, to make my preferred sauerkraut the sweeter style.
Bubblecar said:
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:fuck you
Sibeen seems unlikely to do anything you tell him to.
Tell him to open an invalid stout.
I have to go buy some. The last few visits to the bottle shop have resulted in me bringing home Coopers Extra Stout and before that Guinness Extra Stout as my local was sans invalids.
Cymek said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
UKTV removes Fawlty Towers episode The Germans from streaming service over racist slursWhy not just warn people the Episodes contain racial slurs, and let the people decide if they want to watch it or not.
Radio stations warn people music contain bad language. What the problem the tv or streaming doing the same thing?
Pass me the oar N-word Jim
That does sound sensible
It could apply to movies about slaves, Roots, Django Unchained and books considered classics Tom Sawyer for example
Speedy said:
Bubblecar said:
Speedy said:That sounds like a yummy meal. Do you make a sweeter or saltier sauerkraut?
This is imported Russian sauerkraut (which includes fermented carrot and horseradish) which is sour but not face-pullingly so. I mix it with onion, garlic and a judicious sprinkle of caraway seeds and heat in a little oil.
I’ve been threatening to ferment my own jars of sauerkraut and will probably do so soon.
The carrot would give it some sweetness, I guess, so probably a perfectly balanced sauerkraut. My mum makes it using shredded cabbage and a jar of bought stuff, then adds the onion, garlic, caraway and other stuff (like….and she would never admit to it….but I’ve seen her add it with my own eyes……..sugar) too, to make my preferred sauerkraut the sweeter style.
I sometimes buy a German red cabbage sauerkraut (Rotkohl) which is quite sweet and very pleasant with pork sausages etc.

This t-shirt is perfect

dv said:
![]()
This t-shirt is perfect
What does the cuneiform say?
Rule 303 said:
Sacred sewage.
Speedy said:
Bubblecar said:
Speedy said:That sounds like a yummy meal. Do you make a sweeter or saltier sauerkraut?
This is imported Russian sauerkraut (which includes fermented carrot and horseradish) which is sour but not face-pullingly so. I mix it with onion, garlic and a judicious sprinkle of caraway seeds and heat in a little oil.
I’ve been threatening to ferment my own jars of sauerkraut and will probably do so soon.
The carrot would give it some sweetness, I guess, so probably a perfectly balanced sauerkraut. My mum makes it using shredded cabbage and a jar of bought stuff, then adds the onion, garlic, caraway and other stuff (like….and she would never admit to it….but I’ve seen her add it with my own eyes……..sugar) too, to make my preferred sauerkraut the sweeter style.
How long does it ferment for? And is that at room temperature?
Bubblecar said:
Rule 303 said:
Sacred sewage.
eternal effluent.
Rule 303 said:
LOL. Just great.
:)
Bubblecar said:
SCIENCE said:
Cymek said:Nothing but the more you react to an insult the more people will continue it, you can appropriate it and disarm the word so its almost a badge of pride instead of a slur
DA
could be FC we suppose
Speedy said:
Bubblecar said:
Speedy said:That sounds like a yummy meal. Do you make a sweeter or saltier sauerkraut?
This is imported Russian sauerkraut (which includes fermented carrot and horseradish) which is sour but not face-pullingly so. I mix it with onion, garlic and a judicious sprinkle of caraway seeds and heat in a little oil.
I’ve been threatening to ferment my own jars of sauerkraut and will probably do so soon.
The carrot would give it some sweetness, I guess, so probably a perfectly balanced sauerkraut. My mum makes it using shredded cabbage and a jar of bought stuff, then adds the onion, garlic, caraway and other stuff (like….and she would never admit to it….but I’ve seen her add it with my own eyes……..sugar) too, to make my preferred sauerkraut the sweeter style.
I’ll have no truck with carrot in sauerkraut.
SCIENCE said:
Bubblecar said:
SCIENCE said:
DA
could be FC we suppose
Could indeed.
This seems pretty unlikely as a transmission vector, but I guess it’s possible:
This Week in Asia said:
A church in South Korea sprayed salt water inside the mouths of followers out of a false belief it would help prevent the spread of the coronavirus, but by using the same spray bottle without disinfecting the nozzle, it resulted in 46 church-goers infected, authorities said on Monday.
(on-line article from 16/3/20)
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-12/24000-community-sport-clubs-might-not-survive-covid19-pandemic/12344156
maybe the federal could find a couple of dollars in grants to throw at these essential workers
Bubblecar said:
SCIENCE said:
Bubblecar said:DA
could be FC we suppose
Could indeed.
Or a range of notes following a Tenor Clef.
Rule 303 said:
Bubblecar said:
SCIENCE said:could be FC we suppose
Could indeed.
Or a range of notes following a Tenor Clef.
(by which I mean the movable symbol, in case that’s not obvious)
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
![]()
This t-shirt is perfect
What does the cuneiform say?
Ea Nasir
Rule 303 said:
This seems pretty unlikely as a transmission vector, but I guess it’s possible:This Week in Asia said:
A church in South Korea sprayed salt water inside the mouths of followers out of a false belief it would help prevent the spread of the coronavirus, but by using the same spray bottle without disinfecting the nozzle, it resulted in 46 church-goers infected, authorities said on Monday.
(on-line article from 16/3/20)
I don’t see that as an unlikely transmission vector. Why do you?
Bubblecar said:
Speedy said:
Bubblecar said:This is imported Russian sauerkraut (which includes fermented carrot and horseradish) which is sour but not face-pullingly so. I mix it with onion, garlic and a judicious sprinkle of caraway seeds and heat in a little oil.
I’ve been threatening to ferment my own jars of sauerkraut and will probably do so soon.
The carrot would give it some sweetness, I guess, so probably a perfectly balanced sauerkraut. My mum makes it using shredded cabbage and a jar of bought stuff, then adds the onion, garlic, caraway and other stuff (like….and she would never admit to it….but I’ve seen her add it with my own eyes……..sugar) too, to make my preferred sauerkraut the sweeter style.
I sometimes buy a German red cabbage sauerkraut (Rotkohl) which is quite sweet and very pleasant with pork sausages etc.
Sounds like something that could go well with a mild German sausage, some cheddar cheese, some French bread, a plate of Greek olives and a pint of English ale.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Tonight’s dinner will just be a carbon copy of last night’s, I’m thinking.
Spuds are on the boil large piece of smoked cod is in the pan ready for poaching in milk and the spinach has been destalked and ready to be lightly fried in butter.
White sauce ingredients strategically placed in readiness.
This all becomes very busy at the end, a lot happening at once.
Very nice, scoffed the lot.
dv said:
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
![]()
This t-shirt is perfect
What does the cuneiform say?
Ea Nasir
We will hear no complaints.
Michael V said:
dv said:
Bubblecar said:What does the cuneiform say?
Ea Nasir
We will hear no complaints.
Contemptuous.
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Tonight’s dinner will just be a carbon copy of last night’s, I’m thinking.
Spuds are on the boil large piece of smoked cod is in the pan ready for poaching in milk and the spinach has been destalked and ready to be lightly fried in butter.
White sauce ingredients strategically placed in readiness.
This all becomes very busy at the end, a lot happening at once.Very nice, scoffed the lot.
Roast chook and roast veges this end. I will have to flavour the gravy. Mrs V does the rest.
Rule 303 said:
This seems pretty unlikely as a transmission vector, but I guess it’s possible:This Week in Asia said:
A church in South Korea sprayed salt water inside the mouths of followers out of a false belief it would help prevent the spread of the coronavirus, but by using the same spray bottle without disinfecting the nozzle, it resulted in 46 church-goers infected, authorities said on Monday.
(on-line article from 16/3/20)
Why are fuckwits given to such fuckwittery?
shakes head
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:
This seems pretty unlikely as a transmission vector, but I guess it’s possible:This Week in Asia said:
A church in South Korea sprayed salt water inside the mouths of followers out of a false belief it would help prevent the spread of the coronavirus, but by using the same spray bottle without disinfecting the nozzle, it resulted in 46 church-goers infected, authorities said on Monday.
(on-line article from 16/3/20)
I don’t see that as an unlikely transmission vector. Why do you?
The need to inhale droplets carrying the infection, mostly, or introduce it to the body through an ‘open’ (to the bloodstream) site. Unless the mouth or upper GI has cuts or open sores, it should be a lot harder to transmit through a liquid in the mouth.
(Exploits Cunningham’s Law and clicks Submit)
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:
This seems pretty unlikely as a transmission vector, but I guess it’s possible:This Week in Asia said:
A church in South Korea sprayed salt water inside the mouths of followers out of a false belief it would help prevent the spread of the coronavirus, but by using the same spray bottle without disinfecting the nozzle, it resulted in 46 church-goers infected, authorities said on Monday.
(on-line article from 16/3/20)
Why are fuckwits given to such fuckwittery?
shakes head
Yeah, weird stuff.
Scott Morrison sorry for ‘no slavery in Australia’ claim and acknowledges ‘hideous practices’
The prime minister said comments ‘that there was no slavery in Australia’ related particularly to founding principles of NSW
Scott Morrison has walked back his incorrect observation that there was no slavery in Australia, and acknowledged that “all sorts of hideous practices” have taken place during our history.
The prime minister on Friday said the observation he made on Thursday that there was no slavery in this country related to the principles that existed when the colony of New South Wales was founded – that there was to be no lawful slavery in Australia.
—-
Okay, good.
Home with some Guinness Extra Stout as the bottle shop was still missing invalid. I may need to resort to a stern glare in the managers direction next time I’m there.
sibeen said:
Home with some Guinness Extra Stout as the bottle shop was still missing invalid. I may need to resort to a stern glare in the managers direction next time I’m there.
FWP
Guinness will get you there.
Time for an hour of post-dinner lay-me-down.
Michael V said:
Speedy said:
Bubblecar said:This is imported Russian sauerkraut (which includes fermented carrot and horseradish) which is sour but not face-pullingly so. I mix it with onion, garlic and a judicious sprinkle of caraway seeds and heat in a little oil.
I’ve been threatening to ferment my own jars of sauerkraut and will probably do so soon.
The carrot would give it some sweetness, I guess, so probably a perfectly balanced sauerkraut. My mum makes it using shredded cabbage and a jar of bought stuff, then adds the onion, garlic, caraway and other stuff (like….and she would never admit to it….but I’ve seen her add it with my own eyes……..sugar) too, to make my preferred sauerkraut the sweeter style.
How long does it ferment for? And is that at room temperature?
No, it’s not fermented. The stuff in the jar, I guess, is fermented, and the rest is made up on the day.
My goodness this loganberry sauce is delicious on a scoop of vanilla icecream.
:)
buffy said:
My goodness this loganberry sauce is delicious on a scoop of vanilla icecream.:)
oh. loganberries…
Rule 303 said:
God works in mysterious ways, his gastro-intestinal wonders to perform.
ABC News:
‘Demons pair join list of players banned for COVID-19 breaches
The number of AFL players banned for breaching COVID-19 protocols rises to four after Melbourne pair Charlie Spargo and Kysaiah Pickett travelled to a non-essential gathering.’
Sorry boys, the days of being a fuckwit footballer giving you some sort of exemption from the rules that apply to everyone else are over, and the sooner the rest of your wooden-headed colleagues learn that, the better off they’ll be.
Welcome to Planet Earth.
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:
My goodness this loganberry sauce is delicious on a scoop of vanilla icecream.:)
oh. loganberries…
I hoard them. Last week I defrosted about 300g and made a tart and some sauce.
ABC News
Mystery surrounds discovery of human jawbone at Umina Beach on NSW Central Coast

Gosh, i know that coastline profile in the background.
On another note, I’m just hoping they don’t dig too much more to the southward.
captain_spalding said:
ABC NewsMystery surrounds discovery of human jawbone at Umina Beach on NSW Central Coast
Gosh, i know that coastline profile in the background.
On another note, I’m just hoping they don’t dig too much more to the southward.
Heh.
People still get lost at sea (from the coast) all the time. Just in my little patch we average a couple per year, and it’s not unusual for us to find nothing, or only very small bits. Whole bodies or large bits are rare.
Rule 303 said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC NewsMystery surrounds discovery of human jawbone at Umina Beach on NSW Central Coast
Gosh, i know that coastline profile in the background.
On another note, I’m just hoping they don’t dig too much more to the southward.
Heh.
People still get lost at sea (from the coast) all the time. Just in my little patch we average a couple per year, and it’s not unusual for us to find nothing, or only very small bits. Whole bodies or large bits are rare.
Whole bodies, and even large bits, are not pleasant after birds, fish, and decomposition have had their goes.
Joke:
Crab fisherman’s wife fell over the side. Lost.
Five days later, cops report ‘Jack, we found your wife’s body. There were six blue swimmer crabs attached’to her. What do you want us to do with her remains?’
‘Get those crabs off her and set her again’.
Fire roaring, tracky dackys and slip slips on. Footy on the tele and lamb shank broth bubbling away in readiness for half time. What more could a grown man want?
Woodie said:
Fire roaring, tracky dackys and slip slips on. Footy on the tele and lamb shank broth bubbling away in readiness for half time. What more could a grown man want?
Supermodel and two suitcases full of $100 notes?
Tamb said:
I’m so fed up with these ticks.
Just got one out of the web between little & ring finger.
Roll on the first frost.
I have a lot of ticks too, but most can be control by slashing/mowing tall grasses and sedges where I walk, makes them move off the track to seek higher vegetation.
Eh oop I’ve just seen the cast lists for the last two Crown series. Imelda Staunton is going to play QE2 in season 5. Great choice.
Gillian Anderson as Thatcher. Huh.
dv said:
Eh oop I’ve just seen the cast lists for the last two Crown series. Imelda Staunton is going to play QE2 in season 5. Great choice.Gillian Anderson as Thatcher. Huh.
Who’d be a good Thatcher though?
PermeateFree said:
Tamb said:
I’m so fed up with these ticks.
Just got one out of the web between little & ring finger.
Roll on the first frost.
I have a lot of ticks too, but most can be control by slashing/mowing tall grasses and sedges where I walk, makes them move off the track to seek higher vegetation.
Animals can get an injection that keeps them tick free for a while, can’t they? Can humans get that, or similar?
The Rev Dodgson said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
“I genuinely don’t think there are large divisions when it comes to the issue of acknowledging the treatment of Indigenous Australians in this country.”hmmm
I mean I guess I must have imagined all those people going on about the “black armband view”.
Blackbirding is the slaving activity, they just shot the Aborigines as they were not considered good workers, other than for stock work where they were paid in basic foods and given a place to live on their country.
dv said:
Gillian Anderson as Thatcher. Huh.
I’m sure she’ll do just fine. Her agent has worked very hard to get her this gig.
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
Eh oop I’ve just seen the cast lists for the last two Crown series. Imelda Staunton is going to play QE2 in season 5. Great choice.Gillian Anderson as Thatcher. Huh.
Who’d be a good Thatcher though?
Julie Bishop?
I mean, she was one of the lawyers who worked so hard to try to ensure that the asbesteosis victims got as little as possible (preferably nothing).
I think she could channel Thatcher quite easily.
captain_spalding said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
Eh oop I’ve just seen the cast lists for the last two Crown series. Imelda Staunton is going to play QE2 in season 5. Great choice.Gillian Anderson as Thatcher. Huh.
Who’d be a good Thatcher though?
Julie Bishop?
I mean, she was one of the lawyers who worked so hard to try to ensure that the asbesteosis victims got as little as possible (preferably nothing).
I think she could channel Thatcher quite easily.
I think the choice should be restricted to actors.
ABC News:
‘King Leopold Ranges renamed by WA Government amid global Black Lives Matter protests’
I can dig this one.
King Leopold was an A-grade, first-rate, top-shelf arsehole.
furious said:
PermeateFree said:
Tamb said:
I’m so fed up with these ticks.
Just got one out of the web between little & ring finger.
Roll on the first frost.
I have a lot of ticks too, but most can be control by slashing/mowing tall grasses and sedges where I walk, makes them move off the track to seek higher vegetation.
Animals can get an injection that keeps them tick free for a while, can’t they? Can humans get that, or similar?
You can use flea shampoo, but very short lived unless you have a lot of fur.
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
Eh oop I’ve just seen the cast lists for the last two Crown series. Imelda Staunton is going to play QE2 in season 5. Great choice.Gillian Anderson as Thatcher. Huh.
Who’d be a good Thatcher though?
Well Streep was amazing.
I do expect Anderson will do okay.
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Who’d be a good Thatcher though?
Julie Bishop?
I mean, she was one of the lawyers who worked so hard to try to ensure that the asbesteosis victims got as little as possible (preferably nothing).
I think she could channel Thatcher quite easily.
I think the choice should be restricted to actors.
She was a politician. Like, there’s a difference?
PermeateFree said:
furious said:
PermeateFree said:I have a lot of ticks too, but most can be control by slashing/mowing tall grasses and sedges where I walk, makes them move off the track to seek higher vegetation.
Animals can get an injection that keeps them tick free for a while, can’t they? Can humans get that, or similar?
You can use flea shampoo, but very short lived unless you have a lot of fur.
Yeah, but, that injection? How does that work?
buffy said:
My goodness this loganberry sauce is delicious on a scoop of vanilla icecream.:)
that was nasty, unforgivable
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
Eh oop I’ve just seen the cast lists for the last two Crown series. Imelda Staunton is going to play QE2 in season 5. Great choice.Gillian Anderson as Thatcher. Huh.
Who’d be a good Thatcher though?
Adam Sandler.
Yep.
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘King Leopold Ranges renamed by WA Government amid global Black Lives Matter protests’
I can dig this one.
King Leopold was an A-grade, first-rate, top-shelf arsehole.
Seems reasonable.
furious said:
PermeateFree said:
furious said:Animals can get an injection that keeps them tick free for a while, can’t they? Can humans get that, or similar?
You can use flea shampoo, but very short lived unless you have a lot of fur.
Yeah, but, that injection? How does that work?
I would imagine like a systemic pesticide.
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘King Leopold Ranges renamed by WA Government amid global Black Lives Matter protests’
I can dig this one.
King Leopold was an A-grade, first-rate, top-shelf arsehole.
We started on again to-day, steering N.W. and came to another good-sized stream a short distance from our camp. Five miles farther on a large sized river barred our way, running fast and strong. We crossed it, and camped a mile beyond in a grassy flat at the foot of the great dividing range. A high peak towers above us, which Hicks and I this afternoon attempted to ascend ; but when within 200 feet of the summit we found it impossible to proceed, a wall of rock rising up so precipitously as to make it altogether inaccessible. This was particularly annoying, for it had given us an hour’s hard work to make our way as far as the point we reached. The height of this peak is about 2,000 feet above the level of the sea. I named this range King Leopold Range, after King
Leopold of Belgium, for the great interest taken by His Majesty in exploration. My eyes are rather better to-day, and Carey’s health has greatly improved. Marked tree F 101. Lat. of camp, 17 deg. 23 min. 12 sec.
Was he a sponsor of the expedition or something?
dv said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘King Leopold Ranges renamed by WA Government amid global Black Lives Matter protests’
I can dig this one.
King Leopold was an A-grade, first-rate, top-shelf arsehole.
We started on again to-day, steering N.W. and came to another good-sized stream a short distance from our camp. Five miles farther on a large sized river barred our way, running fast and strong. We crossed it, and camped a mile beyond in a grassy flat at the foot of the great dividing range. A high peak towers above us, which Hicks and I this afternoon attempted to ascend ; but when within 200 feet of the summit we found it impossible to proceed, a wall of rock rising up so precipitously as to make it altogether inaccessible. This was particularly annoying, for it had given us an hour’s hard work to make our way as far as the point we reached. The height of this peak is about 2,000 feet above the level of the sea. I named this range King Leopold Range, after King
Leopold of Belgium, for the great interest taken by His Majesty in exploration. My eyes are rather better to-day, and Carey’s health has greatly improved. Marked tree F 101. Lat. of camp, 17 deg. 23 min. 12 sec.Was he a sponsor of the expedition or something?
No. Maybe Forrest just ran out of mates to name things after.
dv said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘King Leopold Ranges renamed by WA Government amid global Black Lives Matter protests’
I can dig this one.
King Leopold was an A-grade, first-rate, top-shelf arsehole.
We started on again to-day, steering N.W. and came to another good-sized stream a short distance from our camp. Five miles farther on a large sized river barred our way, running fast and strong. We crossed it, and camped a mile beyond in a grassy flat at the foot of the great dividing range. A high peak towers above us, which Hicks and I this afternoon attempted to ascend ; but when within 200 feet of the summit we found it impossible to proceed, a wall of rock rising up so precipitously as to make it altogether inaccessible. This was particularly annoying, for it had given us an hour’s hard work to make our way as far as the point we reached. The height of this peak is about 2,000 feet above the level of the sea. I named this range King Leopold Range, after King
Leopold of Belgium, for the great interest taken by His Majesty in exploration. My eyes are rather better to-day, and Carey’s health has greatly improved. Marked tree F 101. Lat. of camp, 17 deg. 23 min. 12 sec.Was he a sponsor of the expedition or something?
Maybe, but unlikely.
Most likely another example of sucking up to royalty.
‘I named a mountain range after you, majesty.’
‘Did you really, my boy? Here, have a knighthood or something.’
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
Eh oop I’ve just seen the cast lists for the last two Crown series. Imelda Staunton is going to play QE2 in season 5. Great choice.Gillian Anderson as Thatcher. Huh.
Who’d be a good Thatcher though?
Well Streep was amazing.
I do expect Anderson will do okay.
I thought the “huh” indicated otherwise.
I didn’t see the Streep Thatcher, although I can imagine her doing a good job.
Although I think Streep’s a much better actor than Thatcher was a PM.
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘King Leopold Ranges renamed by WA Government amid global Black Lives Matter protests’
I can dig this one.
King Leopold was an A-grade, first-rate, top-shelf arsehole.
We started on again to-day, steering N.W. and came to another good-sized stream a short distance from our camp. Five miles farther on a large sized river barred our way, running fast and strong. We crossed it, and camped a mile beyond in a grassy flat at the foot of the great dividing range. A high peak towers above us, which Hicks and I this afternoon attempted to ascend ; but when within 200 feet of the summit we found it impossible to proceed, a wall of rock rising up so precipitously as to make it altogether inaccessible. This was particularly annoying, for it had given us an hour’s hard work to make our way as far as the point we reached. The height of this peak is about 2,000 feet above the level of the sea. I named this range King Leopold Range, after King
Leopold of Belgium, for the great interest taken by His Majesty in exploration. My eyes are rather better to-day, and Carey’s health has greatly improved. Marked tree F 101. Lat. of camp, 17 deg. 23 min. 12 sec.Was he a sponsor of the expedition or something?
Maybe, but unlikely.
Most likely another example of sucking up to royalty.
‘I named a mountain range after you, majesty.’
‘Did you really, my boy? Here, have a knighthood or something.’
worked for Tony and Phillip now didn’t it
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘King Leopold Ranges renamed by WA Government amid global Black Lives Matter protests’
I can dig this one.
King Leopold was an A-grade, first-rate, top-shelf arsehole.
We started on again to-day, steering N.W. and came to another good-sized stream a short distance from our camp. Five miles farther on a large sized river barred our way, running fast and strong. We crossed it, and camped a mile beyond in a grassy flat at the foot of the great dividing range. A high peak towers above us, which Hicks and I this afternoon attempted to ascend ; but when within 200 feet of the summit we found it impossible to proceed, a wall of rock rising up so precipitously as to make it altogether inaccessible. This was particularly annoying, for it had given us an hour’s hard work to make our way as far as the point we reached. The height of this peak is about 2,000 feet above the level of the sea. I named this range King Leopold Range, after King
Leopold of Belgium, for the great interest taken by His Majesty in exploration. My eyes are rather better to-day, and Carey’s health has greatly improved. Marked tree F 101. Lat. of camp, 17 deg. 23 min. 12 sec.Was he a sponsor of the expedition or something?
Maybe, but unlikely.
Most likely another example of sucking up to royalty.
‘I named a mountain range after you, majesty.’
‘Did you really, my boy? Here, have a knighthood or something.’
But it’s fkn Belgium. Who’d even want a Belgian knighthood.
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Who’d be a good Thatcher though?
Well Streep was amazing.
I do expect Anderson will do okay.
I thought the “huh” indicated otherwise.
I didn’t see the Streep Thatcher, although I can imagine her doing a good job.
Although I think Streep’s a much better actor than Thatcher was a PM.
More a “huh” meaning “well I wouldn’t have thought of that”.
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘King Leopold Ranges renamed by WA Government amid global Black Lives Matter protests’
I can dig this one.
King Leopold was an A-grade, first-rate, top-shelf arsehole.
We started on again to-day, steering N.W. and came to another good-sized stream a short distance from our camp. Five miles farther on a large sized river barred our way, running fast and strong. We crossed it, and camped a mile beyond in a grassy flat at the foot of the great dividing range. A high peak towers above us, which Hicks and I this afternoon attempted to ascend ; but when within 200 feet of the summit we found it impossible to proceed, a wall of rock rising up so precipitously as to make it altogether inaccessible. This was particularly annoying, for it had given us an hour’s hard work to make our way as far as the point we reached. The height of this peak is about 2,000 feet above the level of the sea. I named this range King Leopold Range, after King
Leopold of Belgium, for the great interest taken by His Majesty in exploration. My eyes are rather better to-day, and Carey’s health has greatly improved. Marked tree F 101. Lat. of camp, 17 deg. 23 min. 12 sec.Was he a sponsor of the expedition or something?
Maybe, but unlikely.
Most likely another example of sucking up to royalty.
‘I named a mountain range after you, majesty.’
‘Did you really, my boy? Here, have a knighthood or something.’
A lot of self-promotion done in those days with Leopold regarded as a saviour of the poor ignorant savages of Africa, who without personal gain, tried to educate improve their lot in the name of Christianity.
SCIENCE said:
worked for Tony and Phillip now didn’t it
Ton\y Abbott getting an ‘honour’ is quite reassuring.
When a ‘former politician’ gets one of those, it’s the bullet in the head to his /her career.
It says ‘it’s over, it’s done, you’re not coming back, we don’t want you, we don’t need you, and, after this, we won’t even answer the phone if you call. You’re finished, you’re history, you are dead to us’.
dv said:
captain_spalding said:
dv said:Was he a sponsor of the expedition or something?
Maybe, but unlikely.
Most likely another example of sucking up to royalty.
‘I named a mountain range after you, majesty.’
‘Did you really, my boy? Here, have a knighthood or something.’
But it’s fkn Belgium. Who’d even want a Belgian knighthood.
If it gets me a better table at the restaurant….
PermeateFree said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
“I genuinely don’t think there are large divisions when it comes to the issue of acknowledging the treatment of Indigenous Australians in this country.”hmmm
I mean I guess I must have imagined all those people going on about the “black armband view”.
Blackbirding is the slaving activity, they just shot the Aborigines as they were not considered good workers, other than for stock work where they were paid in basic foods and given a place to live on their country.
I occasionally have a look at Trove and the old newspapers for a bit of history….I looked up my grandfather’s name and found a letter he wrote about his time in WW1…..nice.
I have spent the last half hour reading the results of a search on aboriginal slavery. Now I feel a bit sick and have to stop reading.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/result?q=aboriginal+slavery
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘King Leopold Ranges renamed by WA Government amid global Black Lives Matter protests’
I can dig this one.
King Leopold was an A-grade, first-rate, top-shelf arsehole.
There’s two sides to this.
On one side, having Ranges named after King Leopold captures a snapshot of the times in which those Ranges were named. We can gain an understanding of the social mores of those times by recognizing the character of the people that were honored and recognized back then, how the world of our ancestors looked to them. On the other, changing the name is a snapshot of our times… lessons to those who will come after us. The immediate seems less profound than the history, but we are all living history as it evolves, and there is a profundity in that realization.
PermeateFree said:
captain_spalding said:
dv said:Was he a sponsor of the expedition or something?
Maybe, but unlikely.
Most likely another example of sucking up to royalty.
‘I named a mountain range after you, majesty.’
‘Did you really, my boy? Here, have a knighthood or something.’
A lot of self-promotion done in those days with Leopold regarded as a saviour of the poor ignorant savages of Africa, who without personal gain, tried to educate improve their lot in the name of Christianity.
https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1268943209889173505
esselte said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘King Leopold Ranges renamed by WA Government amid global Black Lives Matter protests’
I can dig this one.
King Leopold was an A-grade, first-rate, top-shelf arsehole.
There’s two sides to this.
On one side, having Ranges named after King Leopold captures a snapshot of the times in which those Ranges were named. We can gain an understanding of the social mores of those times by recognizing the character of the people that were honored and recognized back then, how the world of our ancestors looked to them. On the other, changing the name is a snapshot of our times… lessons to those who will come after us. The immediate seems less profound than the history, but we are all living history as it evolves, and there is a profundity in that realization.
Acknowledged.
But still, he was a dick.
esselte said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘King Leopold Ranges renamed by WA Government amid global Black Lives Matter protests’
I can dig this one.
King Leopold was an A-grade, first-rate, top-shelf arsehole.
There’s two sides to this.
On one side, having Ranges named after King Leopold captures a snapshot of the times in which those Ranges were named. We can gain an understanding of the social mores of those times by recognizing the character of the people that were honored and recognized back then, how the world of our ancestors looked to them. On the other, changing the name is a snapshot of our times… lessons to those who will come after us. The immediate seems less profound than the history, but we are all living history as it evolves, and there is a profundity in that realization.
it’s a nice neck of the country up there as well.
PermeateFree said:
captain_spalding said:
dv said:Was he a sponsor of the expedition or something?
Maybe, but unlikely.
Most likely another example of sucking up to royalty.
‘I named a mountain range after you, majesty.’
‘Did you really, my boy? Here, have a knighthood or something.’
A lot of self-promotion done in those days with Leopold regarded as a saviour of the poor ignorant savages of Africa, who without personal gain, tried to educate improve their lot in the name of Christianity.
It was the biggest scandal of the age when people found out what was really going on there. Belgium should really have been abolished there and then.
King Leopold took the Congo as his personal property.
That meant that everything and everyone in it belonged to him. He owned it/them.
The Belgians then proceeded to exploit the country on the basis that everything and everyone in it was an asset to be used for the personal enrichment of King Leopold, without consideration to any cost, human or material.
The Belgians did things that i suspect even ardent Nazis would have balked at.
captain_spalding said:
King Leopold took the Congo as his personal property.That meant that everything and everyone in it belonged to him. He owned it/them.
The Belgians then proceeded to exploit the country on the basis that everything and everyone in it was an asset to be used for the personal enrichment of King Leopold, without consideration to any cost, human or material.
The Belgians did things that i suspect even ardent Nazis would have balked at.
I mean comparisons with Hitler are all too easy but yeah … he’s up there.
dv said:
captain_spalding said:
dv said:Was he a sponsor of the expedition or something?
Maybe, but unlikely.
Most likely another example of sucking up to royalty.
‘I named a mountain range after you, majesty.’
‘Did you really, my boy? Here, have a knighthood or something.’
But it’s fkn Belgium. Who’d even want a Belgian knighthood.
Not big on Belgian waffle?
Neophyte said:
dv said:
captain_spalding said:Maybe, but unlikely.
Most likely another example of sucking up to royalty.
‘I named a mountain range after you, majesty.’
‘Did you really, my boy? Here, have a knighthood or something.’
But it’s fkn Belgium. Who’d even want a Belgian knighthood.
Not big on Belgian waffle?
Belgian chocolate though…
Bogsnorkler said:
Neophyte said:
dv said:But it’s fkn Belgium. Who’d even want a Belgian knighthood.
Not big on Belgian waffle?
Belgian chocolate though…
beer
dv said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Neophyte said:Not big on Belgian waffle?
Belgian chocolate though…
beer
I think that Wife Beater is ok, but over-rated by people who don’t know better.
Rule 303 said:
Its ok Jesus purified the water.
Only lasted 20 minutes with “Baptiste”. Pictures not good for Mr buffy, and I’m not really into violence.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Rule 303 said:
Its ok Jesus purified the water.
no but really what do people think the water cycle is
dv said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Neophyte said:Not big on Belgian waffle?
Belgian chocolate though…
beer
+ quadrizzillions
dv said:
captain_spalding said:
King Leopold took the Congo as his personal property.That meant that everything and everyone in it belonged to him. He owned it/them.
The Belgians then proceeded to exploit the country on the basis that everything and everyone in it was an asset to be used for the personal enrichment of King Leopold, without consideration to any cost, human or material.
The Belgians did things that i suspect even ardent Nazis would have balked at.
I mean comparisons with Hitler are all too easy but yeah … he’s up there.
not sure the Balkans fought in Belgium but certainly many were with the Nazis
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
Bogsnorkler said:Belgian chocolate though…
beer
I think that Wife Beater is ok, but over-rated by people who don’t know better.
Duchesse De Bourgogne or Tripel Karmeliet
Bogsnorkler said:
esselte said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘King Leopold Ranges renamed by WA Government amid global Black Lives Matter protests’
I can dig this one.
King Leopold was an A-grade, first-rate, top-shelf arsehole.
There’s two sides to this.
On one side, having Ranges named after King Leopold captures a snapshot of the times in which those Ranges were named. We can gain an understanding of the social mores of those times by recognizing the character of the people that were honored and recognized back then, how the world of our ancestors looked to them. On the other, changing the name is a snapshot of our times… lessons to those who will come after us. The immediate seems less profound than the history, but we are all living history as it evolves, and there is a profundity in that realization.
it’s a nice neck of the country up there as well.
Imagine how much Students In The Future Of The Past could learn if it were the case that changes in names did not merely not-erase-history, but in fact added to history, such that there would be lessons on the meaning of name changes, as well as lessons on the reasons for name changes, and lessons on the background of the reasons for the name changes!
buffy said:
Only lasted 20 minutes with “Baptiste”. Pictures not good for Mr buffy, and I’m not really into violence.
I thought it sounded too depressing so didn’t bother.
It feels to me as if the current equivalent of book burning is going on to some extent. It doesn’t matter exactly what the medium is, it’s destruction or revision of the literature of the time. I like this quote about the library of Alexandria:
>>The real tragedy of course is not the uncertainty of knowing who to blame for the Library’s destruction but that so much of ancient history, literature and learning was lost forever.<<
https://ehistory.osu.edu/articles/burning-library-alexandria
I don’t think eradication of evidence of what is no longer considered acceptable is useful, because someone sometime is going to have a wonderful idea, and not know how badly it went last time.
dv said:
captain_spalding said:
dv said:beer
I think that Wife Beater is ok, but over-rated by people who don’t know better.
Duchesse De Bourgogne or Tripel Karmeliet
Any of the Trappist brews will do me fine. A Westvleteren 12, OK I’ve only ever had it once but bloody hell it was good or a Chimay Grand Reserve. Either of those at a pinch.
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
captain_spalding said:
King Leopold took the Congo as his personal property.That meant that everything and everyone in it belonged to him. He owned it/them.
The Belgians then proceeded to exploit the country on the basis that everything and everyone in it was an asset to be used for the personal enrichment of King Leopold, without consideration to any cost, human or material.
The Belgians did things that i suspect even ardent Nazis would have balked at.
I mean comparisons with Hitler are all too easy but yeah … he’s up there.
not sure the Balkans fought in Belgium but certainly many were with the Nazis
Balkans…?
Fighting…in Belgium…?
buffy said:
It feels to me as if the current equivalent of book burning is going on to some extent. It doesn’t matter exactly what the medium is, it’s destruction or revision of the literature of the time. I like this quote about the library of Alexandria:>>The real tragedy of course is not the uncertainty of knowing who to blame for the Library’s destruction but that so much of ancient history, literature and learning was lost forever.<<
https://ehistory.osu.edu/articles/burning-library-alexandria
I don’t think eradication of evidence of what is no longer considered acceptable is useful, because someone sometime is going to have a wonderful idea, and not know how badly it went last time.
I don’t agree. The reason we want to change this or that name or remove this or that statue is because we have a better of grasp of history than the previous generations.
buffy said:
It feels to me as if the current equivalent of book burning is going on to some extent. It doesn’t matter exactly what the medium is, it’s destruction or revision of the literature of the time. I like this quote about the library of Alexandria:>>The real tragedy of course is not the uncertainty of knowing who to blame for the Library’s destruction but that so much of ancient history, literature and learning was lost forever.<<
https://ehistory.osu.edu/articles/burning-library-alexandria
I don’t think eradication of evidence of what is no longer considered acceptable is useful, because someone sometime is going to have a wonderful idea, and not know how badly it went last time.
Well, Belgium shouldn’t exist IMHO, so I’m happy to un-name anything named after the cunt they called King.
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
It feels to me as if the current equivalent of book burning is going on to some extent. It doesn’t matter exactly what the medium is, it’s destruction or revision of the literature of the time. I like this quote about the library of Alexandria:>>The real tragedy of course is not the uncertainty of knowing who to blame for the Library’s destruction but that so much of ancient history, literature and learning was lost forever.<<
https://ehistory.osu.edu/articles/burning-library-alexandria
I don’t think eradication of evidence of what is no longer considered acceptable is useful, because someone sometime is going to have a wonderful idea, and not know how badly it went last time.
I don’t agree. The reason we want to change this or that name or remove this or that statue is because we have a better of grasp of history than the previous generations.
Nup. You need to be able to show your workings. How society came to it’s current “enlightened” view.
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
It feels to me as if the current equivalent of book burning is going on to some extent. It doesn’t matter exactly what the medium is, it’s destruction or revision of the literature of the time. I like this quote about the library of Alexandria:>>The real tragedy of course is not the uncertainty of knowing who to blame for the Library’s destruction but that so much of ancient history, literature and learning was lost forever.<<
https://ehistory.osu.edu/articles/burning-library-alexandria
I don’t think eradication of evidence of what is no longer considered acceptable is useful, because someone sometime is going to have a wonderful idea, and not know how badly it went last time.
I don’t agree. The reason we want to change this or that name or remove this or that statue is because we have a better of grasp of history than the previous generations.
Every generation thinks like this. It’s unlikely that we here today are special… more likely that we are average.
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
It feels to me as if the current equivalent of book burning is going on to some extent. It doesn’t matter exactly what the medium is, it’s destruction or revision of the literature of the time. I like this quote about the library of Alexandria:>>The real tragedy of course is not the uncertainty of knowing who to blame for the Library’s destruction but that so much of ancient history, literature and learning was lost forever.<<
https://ehistory.osu.edu/articles/burning-library-alexandria
I don’t think eradication of evidence of what is no longer considered acceptable is useful, because someone sometime is going to have a wonderful idea, and not know how badly it went last time.
I don’t agree. The reason we want to change this or that name or remove this or that statue is because we have a better of grasp of history than the previous generations.
Nup. You need to be able to show your workings. How society came to it’s current “enlightened” view.
I wouldn’t have thought you’d side with the racists.
buffy said:
Only lasted 20 minutes with “Baptiste”. Pictures not good for Mr buffy, and I’m not really into violence.
I poked my fingers in my ears, shut my eyes, then had to leave the room, and here I am
esselte said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
It feels to me as if the current equivalent of book burning is going on to some extent. It doesn’t matter exactly what the medium is, it’s destruction or revision of the literature of the time. I like this quote about the library of Alexandria:>>The real tragedy of course is not the uncertainty of knowing who to blame for the Library’s destruction but that so much of ancient history, literature and learning was lost forever.<<
https://ehistory.osu.edu/articles/burning-library-alexandria
I don’t think eradication of evidence of what is no longer considered acceptable is useful, because someone sometime is going to have a wonderful idea, and not know how badly it went last time.
I don’t agree. The reason we want to change this or that name or remove this or that statue is because we have a better of grasp of history than the previous generations.
Every generation thinks like this. It’s unlikely that we here today are special… more likely that we are average.
I believe the word might be hubris.
buffy said:
It feels to me as if the current equivalent of book burning is going on to some extent. It doesn’t matter exactly what the medium is, it’s destruction or revision of the literature of the time. I like this quote about the library of Alexandria:>>The real tragedy of course is not the uncertainty of knowing who to blame for the Library’s destruction but that so much of ancient history, literature and learning was lost forever.<<
https://ehistory.osu.edu/articles/burning-library-alexandria
I don’t think eradication of evidence of what is no longer considered acceptable is useful, because someone sometime is going to have a wonderful idea, and not know how badly it went last time.
Fortunately evidence is not in general being eradicated, it is being archived.
Bubblecar said:
I don’t agree. The reason we want to change this or that name or remove this or that statue is because we have a better of grasp of history than the previous generations.
I understand that.
My fear is that, if people are effectively erased from the record because we now disagree with their actions in line with the precepts of their times, then vast holes in the chronology and histories can be created, which can be exploited by interest groups e.g. science deniers.
There’s nothing wrong with pointing out that people had their ‘darker’ sides by our interpretation, but record of their achievements shouldn’t be entirely erased in the service of correctness, either.
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:I don’t agree. The reason we want to change this or that name or remove this or that statue is because we have a better of grasp of history than the previous generations.
Nup. You need to be able to show your workings. How society came to it’s current “enlightened” view.
I wouldn’t have thought you’d side with the racists.
That’s a bit of a long bow…
esselte said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
It feels to me as if the current equivalent of book burning is going on to some extent. It doesn’t matter exactly what the medium is, it’s destruction or revision of the literature of the time. I like this quote about the library of Alexandria:>>The real tragedy of course is not the uncertainty of knowing who to blame for the Library’s destruction but that so much of ancient history, literature and learning was lost forever.<<
https://ehistory.osu.edu/articles/burning-library-alexandria
I don’t think eradication of evidence of what is no longer considered acceptable is useful, because someone sometime is going to have a wonderful idea, and not know how badly it went last time.
I don’t agree. The reason we want to change this or that name or remove this or that statue is because we have a better of grasp of history than the previous generations.
Every generation thinks like this. It’s unlikely that we here today are special… more likely that we are average.
I don’t think we’re special at all. We’re just less likely to find reasons to excuse the bad behaviour of a past with which we’re less personally connected than previous peoples.
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:I don’t agree. The reason we want to change this or that name or remove this or that statue is because we have a better of grasp of history than the previous generations.
Nup. You need to be able to show your workings. How society came to it’s current “enlightened” view.
I wouldn’t have thought you’d side with the racists.
not necessarily, it’s just a conservative view in the sense of “conservative” = “no change”
buffy said:
esselte said:
Bubblecar said:I don’t agree. The reason we want to change this or that name or remove this or that statue is because we have a better of grasp of history than the previous generations.
Every generation thinks like this. It’s unlikely that we here today are special… more likely that we are average.
I believe the word might be hubris.
or something else beginning with “hu”, as “human development” although it’s true, we probably have a standard of living that is as good as { {the time-integral of all previous hominids} divided by {the time-integral of time itself} }
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:I don’t agree. The reason we want to change this or that name or remove this or that statue is because we have a better of grasp of history than the previous generations.
Nup. You need to be able to show your workings. How society came to it’s current “enlightened” view.
I wouldn’t have thought you’d side with the racists.
I don’t.
esselte said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
It feels to me as if the current equivalent of book burning is going on to some extent. It doesn’t matter exactly what the medium is, it’s destruction or revision of the literature of the time. I like this quote about the library of Alexandria:>>The real tragedy of course is not the uncertainty of knowing who to blame for the Library’s destruction but that so much of ancient history, literature and learning was lost forever.<<
https://ehistory.osu.edu/articles/burning-library-alexandria
I don’t think eradication of evidence of what is no longer considered acceptable is useful, because someone sometime is going to have a wonderful idea, and not know how badly it went last time.
I don’t agree. The reason we want to change this or that name or remove this or that statue is because we have a better of grasp of history than the previous generations.
Every generation thinks like this. It’s unlikely that we here today are special… more likely that we are average.
Consider, for example, that it’s likely genocide is occurring in China today against the Uyghurs, now, as we speak. Actual genocide. Do we talk more about that, or about what we are cooking for dinner?
Future generations are unlikely to look kindly on our indifference.
SCIENCE said:
buffy said:
It feels to me as if the current equivalent of book burning is going on to some extent. It doesn’t matter exactly what the medium is, it’s destruction or revision of the literature of the time. I like this quote about the library of Alexandria:>>The real tragedy of course is not the uncertainty of knowing who to blame for the Library’s destruction but that so much of ancient history, literature and learning was lost forever.<<
https://ehistory.osu.edu/articles/burning-library-alexandria
I don’t think eradication of evidence of what is no longer considered acceptable is useful, because someone sometime is going to have a wonderful idea, and not know how badly it went last time.
Fortunately evidence is not in general being eradicated, it is being archived.
And the reasons for the changes are being discussed very loudly. And will be taught to the next generation in history lessons.
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:I don’t agree. The reason we want to change this or that name or remove this or that statue is because we have a better of grasp of history than the previous generations.
I understand that.
My fear is that, if people are effectively erased from the record because we now disagree with their actions in line with the precepts of their times, then vast holes in the chronology and histories can be created, which can be exploited by interest groups e.g. science deniers.
There’s nothing wrong with pointing out that people had their ‘darker’ sides by our interpretation, but record of their achievements shouldn’t be entirely erased in the service of correctness, either.
Agree. Hence it is a good idea to not only rename / reposition / reorient things to reflect a better present and future, but to also keep in mind the reasons for rename / reposition / reorient and recognise the value of doing so and of doing so.
Bubblecar said:
SCIENCE said:
buffy said:
It feels to me as if the current equivalent of book burning is going on to some extent. It doesn’t matter exactly what the medium is, it’s destruction or revision of the literature of the time. I like this quote about the library of Alexandria:>>The real tragedy of course is not the uncertainty of knowing who to blame for the Library’s destruction but that so much of ancient history, literature and learning was lost forever.<<
https://ehistory.osu.edu/articles/burning-library-alexandria
I don’t think eradication of evidence of what is no longer considered acceptable is useful, because someone sometime is going to have a wonderful idea, and not know how badly it went last time.
Fortunately evidence is not in general being eradicated, it is being archived.
And the reasons for the changes are being discussed very loudly. And will be taught to the next generation in history lessons.
…as someone pointed out, the British learnt far more about the English history of slavery from the dumping of that statue, than they did in the whole 125 years it stood there.
Bubblecar said:
esselte said:
Bubblecar said:I don’t agree. The reason we want to change this or that name or remove this or that statue is because we have a better of grasp of history than the previous generations.
Every generation thinks like this. It’s unlikely that we here today are special… more likely that we are average.
I don’t think we’re special at all. We’re just less likely to find reasons to excuse the bad behaviour of a past with which we’re less personally connected than previous peoples.
Imagine A System Of Record Keeping Whereby We Correct The Mistakes Of The Past Without Pretending They Did Not Happen And Continue To Improve On The Present !
esselte said:
esselte said:
Bubblecar said:I don’t agree. The reason we want to change this or that name or remove this or that statue is because we have a better of grasp of history than the previous generations.
Every generation thinks like this. It’s unlikely that we here today are special… more likely that we are average.
Consider, for example, that it’s likely genocide is occurring in China today against the Uyghurs, now, as we speak. Actual genocide. Do we talk more about that, or about what we are cooking for dinner?
Future generations are unlikely to look kindly on our indifference.
Sorry we thought they were locking them up by the million, much as the blacks do to USSAoles, wait, do they have capital punishment as well, oh, we see.
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:I don’t agree. The reason we want to change this or that name or remove this or that statue is because we have a better of grasp of history than the previous generations.
I understand that.
My fear is that, if people are effectively erased from the record because we now disagree with their actions in line with the precepts of their times, then vast holes in the chronology and histories can be created, which can be exploited by interest groups e.g. science deniers.
There’s nothing wrong with pointing out that people had their ‘darker’ sides by our interpretation, but record of their achievements shouldn’t be entirely erased in the service of correctness, either.
I am quite happy for people to be remembered principally for their dark deeds and not erased from history nor forgotten.
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:I don’t agree. The reason we want to change this or that name or remove this or that statue is because we have a better of grasp of history than the previous generations.
Nup. You need to be able to show your workings. How society came to it’s current “enlightened” view.
I wouldn’t have thought you’d side with the racists.
ROFL
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
SCIENCE said:Fortunately evidence is not in general being eradicated, it is being archived.
And the reasons for the changes are being discussed very loudly. And will be taught to the next generation in history lessons.
…as someone pointed out, the British learnt far more about the English history of slavery from the dumping of that statue, than they did in the whole 125 years it stood there.
Look, we don’t always agree with Bubblecar, but tonight we’re reclining in our own glow of a 7 W * 45 lm/W lamp and enjoying a good steamed dish, and it’s a fine evening here.
Bubblecar said:
esselte said:
Bubblecar said:I don’t agree. The reason we want to change this or that name or remove this or that statue is because we have a better of grasp of history than the previous generations.
Every generation thinks like this. It’s unlikely that we here today are special… more likely that we are average.
I don’t think we’re special at all. We’re just less likely to find reasons to excuse the bad behaviour of a past with which we’re less personally connected than previous peoples.
Poor old Wagner, he must have a few statues to pull down.
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:I don’t agree. The reason we want to change this or that name or remove this or that statue is because we have a better of grasp of history than the previous generations.
I understand that.
My fear is that, if people are effectively erased from the record because we now disagree with their actions in line with the precepts of their times, then vast holes in the chronology and histories can be created, which can be exploited by interest groups e.g. science deniers.
There’s nothing wrong with pointing out that people had their ‘darker’ sides by our interpretation, but record of their achievements shouldn’t be entirely erased in the service of correctness, either.
It isn’t perfect atm.
party_pants said:
I am quite happy for people to be remembered principally for their dark deeds and not erased from history nor forgotten.
OK, remember them principally for their ‘dark deeds’, but don’t forget to mention, that oh, by the way, they also made this important discovery or change, just for information and all that.
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:I don’t agree. The reason we want to change this or that name or remove this or that statue is because we have a better of grasp of history than the previous generations.
I understand that.
My fear is that, if people are effectively erased from the record because we now disagree with their actions in line with the precepts of their times, then vast holes in the chronology and histories can be created, which can be exploited by interest groups e.g. science deniers.
There’s nothing wrong with pointing out that people had their ‘darker’ sides by our interpretation, but record of their achievements shouldn’t be entirely erased in the service of correctness, either.
But they’re not being erased from the record. Their place in the record is being changed from one of unjustified celebration to one of critical reproval.
And Just Like That, We Had Agreement, And Peace Was With The World
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:I am quite happy for people to be remembered principally for their dark deeds and not erased from history nor forgotten.
OK, remember them principally for their ‘dark deeds’, but don’t forget to mention, that oh, by the way, they also made this important discovery or change, just for information and all that.
OK.. What else did old mate Leopold do that is worthy of fond remembrance?
>I don’t agree. The reason we want to change this or that name or remove this or that statue is because we have a better of grasp of history than the previous generations
an expansionist inclusive we happening there
I could put stuff away etc, before the rain gets here, save running around madly, in the rain
transition said:
I could put stuff away etc, before the rain gets here, save running around madly, in the rain
Oh, yeah, you’re in for a bit of second hand wind and rain. We had some here the last 2 days.
transition said:
>I don’t agree. The reason we want to change this or that name or remove this or that statue is because we have a better of grasp of history than the previous generationsan expansionist inclusive we happening there
I’m talking about those of us who want to change the names and dump the statues.
Obviously many people disagree with us.
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:I am quite happy for people to be remembered principally for their dark deeds and not erased from history nor forgotten.
OK, remember them principally for their ‘dark deeds’, but don’t forget to mention, that oh, by the way, they also made this important discovery or change, just for information and all that.
OK.. What else did old mate Leopold do that is worthy of fond remembrance?
He was king of a country that a recalcitrant West Australian thinks shouldn’t exist. This will be preserved for the ages in an obscure Australian forum. :-)
transition said:
>I don’t agree. The reason we want to change this or that name or remove this or that statue is because we have a better of grasp of history than the previous generationsan expansionist inclusive we happening there
lol you [accusative*; 2nd person] troll
*: ye ye technically it’s nominative these days
Bubblecar said:
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:I don’t agree. The reason we want to change this or that name or remove this or that statue is because we have a better of grasp of history than the previous generations.
I understand that.
My fear is that, if people are effectively erased from the record because we now disagree with their actions in line with the precepts of their times, then vast holes in the chronology and histories can be created, which can be exploited by interest groups e.g. science deniers.
There’s nothing wrong with pointing out that people had their ‘darker’ sides by our interpretation, but record of their achievements shouldn’t be entirely erased in the service of correctness, either.
But they’re not being erased from the record. Their place in the record is being changed from one of unjustified celebration to one of critical reproval.
I don’t think these statues should be torn down and destroyed. Perhaps move them somewhere appropriate. Like an Avenue of Dishonour.
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
>I don’t agree. The reason we want to change this or that name or remove this or that statue is because we have a better of grasp of history than the previous generationsan expansionist inclusive we happening there
I’m talking about those of us who want to change the names and dump the statues.
Obviously many people disagree with us.
where’s master car, bring him back
Witty Rejoinder said:
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:OK, remember them principally for their ‘dark deeds’, but don’t forget to mention, that oh, by the way, they also made this important discovery or change, just for information and all that.
OK.. What else did old mate Leopold do that is worthy of fond remembrance?
He was king of a country that a recalcitrant West Australian thinks shouldn’t exist. This will be preserved for the ages in an obscure Australian forum. :-)
I curious about the reasons behind the wish to wipe the Belgians off the map…
transition said:
I could put stuff away etc, before the rain gets here, save running around madly, in the rain
bad idea someone might think you’re erasing history or trying to
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:I am quite happy for people to be remembered principally for their dark deeds and not erased from history nor forgotten.
OK, remember them principally for their ‘dark deeds’, but don’t forget to mention, that oh, by the way, they also made this important discovery or change, just for information and all that.
OK.. What else did old mate Leopold do that is worthy of fond remembrance?
Oh, him. Nothing. Total twat.
By all means, rename the mountain range. What a bunch of rocks is named means nothing at all.
I’m thinking of people who did come up with some good ideas. Like Thomas Jefferson. Great thinker, but owned slaves.
Good bloke for his ideas, not so hot by today’s ideas because he owned slaves, to whom he presumably thought his ideas didn’t apply.
If we obliterate Jefferson entirely, then the history of principles is left perforated.
Acknowledge his shortcomings, but don’t deny his achievements.
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
>I don’t agree. The reason we want to change this or that name or remove this or that statue is because we have a better of grasp of history than the previous generationsan expansionist inclusive we happening there
lol you [accusative*; 2nd person] troll
*: ye ye technically it’s nominative these days
I was talking to car, he knew what I meant
Witty Rejoinder said:
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:OK, remember them principally for their ‘dark deeds’, but don’t forget to mention, that oh, by the way, they also made this important discovery or change, just for information and all that.
OK.. What else did old mate Leopold do that is worthy of fond remembrance?
He was king of a country that a recalcitrant West Australian thinks shouldn’t exist. This will be preserved for the ages in an obscure Australian forum. :-)
Oh yeah. Belgium was invented solely for the purpose of preventing France having a secure northern border. That policy resulted in countless deaths over two world wars as foreign powers exploited this strategic weakness.
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
>I don’t agree. The reason we want to change this or that name or remove this or that statue is because we have a better of grasp of history than the previous generationsan expansionist inclusive we happening there
I’m talking about those of us who want to change the names and dump the statues.
Obviously many people disagree with us.
I’ll put my hand up as one who disagrees. Where does it stop? At what misdeed can we say, “oh, that one’s ok”. As an example Ghandi was quite a racist, apparently. Should we tear down any statues that have been put up in his honour? Should we sully his name for all time or should we accept that most (all) people have feet of clay if you dig deep enough?
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:
captain_spalding said:I understand that.
My fear is that, if people are effectively erased from the record because we now disagree with their actions in line with the precepts of their times, then vast holes in the chronology and histories can be created, which can be exploited by interest groups e.g. science deniers.
There’s nothing wrong with pointing out that people had their ‘darker’ sides by our interpretation, but record of their achievements shouldn’t be entirely erased in the service of correctness, either.
But they’re not being erased from the record. Their place in the record is being changed from one of unjustified celebration to one of critical reproval.
I don’t think these statues should be torn down and destroyed. Perhaps move them somewhere appropriate. Like an Avenue of Dishonour.
Aye. But I think that’s what happens in most cases, they’re put in a museum or whatever.
That statue that was dumped in Bristol Harbour has already been retrieved and will be housed in a museum.
Bubblecar said:
But they’re not being erased from the record. Their place in the record is being changed from one of unjustified celebration to one of critical reproval.
In a hundred years their place on the record will shift again. We don’t celebrate these assholes today through statues or ever-shifting Wikipedia articles. We recognize that they were celebrated, at that time in those places, just as we recognize those who were reviled in past times… and we attempt to understand why they were celebrated and reviled, how that contrasts to our present morality, how this relates to that which we celebrate and revile today – not to some state where we think ourselves as we are today are better than those who came before us, or worse, but rather to a state where we recognize how little different we are and how profound those little differences are… we try to learn lessons from history, not erase it from memory like like some embarrassing childhood psuedo-trauma. The present only exists for 8 seconds. Everything else is past or future. Those 8 seconds that we continually experience as a continual experience… it’s foolish to think some special understanding has suddenly come to exist in that time.
furious said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
party_pants said:OK.. What else did old mate Leopold do that is worthy of fond remembrance?
He was king of a country that a recalcitrant West Australian thinks shouldn’t exist. This will be preserved for the ages in an obscure Australian forum. :-)
I curious about the reasons behind the wish to wipe the Belgians off the map…
PP is of Dutch heritage so he is not to be trusted. :-)
Probably something about a country being created after Waterloo with half speaking French and the other half speaking Dutch. What could go wrong???
Woodie said:
Bubblecar said:
captain_spalding said:I understand that.
My fear is that, if people are effectively erased from the record because we now disagree with their actions in line with the precepts of their times, then vast holes in the chronology and histories can be created, which can be exploited by interest groups e.g. science deniers.
There’s nothing wrong with pointing out that people had their ‘darker’ sides by our interpretation, but record of their achievements shouldn’t be entirely erased in the service of correctness, either.
But they’re not being erased from the record. Their place in the record is being changed from one of unjustified celebration to one of critical reproval.
I don’t think these statues should be torn down and destroyed. Perhaps move them somewhere appropriate. Like an Avenue of Dishonour.
…
The statue of 17th-century slave trader Edward Colston that was toppled by anti-racism protesters in Bristol, England, has been fished out of the harbour by city authorities.
Bristol City Council says the statue was recovered early on Thursday morning (local time) to avoid drawing a crowd. The council says it has been taken to a “secure location” and will end up in a museum alongside Black Lives Matter placards.
transition said:
SCIENCE said:
transition said:
>I don’t agree. The reason we want to change this or that name or remove this or that statue is because we have a better of grasp of history than the previous generationsan expansionist inclusive we happening there
lol you [accusative*; 2nd person] troll
*: ye ye technically it’s nominative these days
I was talking to car, he knew what I meant
tough crowd
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
>I don’t agree. The reason we want to change this or that name or remove this or that statue is because we have a better of grasp of history than the previous generationsan expansionist inclusive we happening there
I’m talking about those of us who want to change the names and dump the statues.
Obviously many people disagree with us.
I’ll put my hand up as one who disagrees. Where does it stop? At what misdeed can we say, “oh, that one’s ok”. As an example Ghandi was quite a racist, apparently. Should we tear down any statues that have been put up in his honour? Should we sully his name for all time or should we accept that most (all) people have feet of clay if you dig deep enough?
We agree with both disagreements. We think idolising people and / or naming distantly related or unrelated things after them is at best passé. Recognise people for what they do. Full. Stop.
it’s all just a fad. people are bored because of lockdowns and businesses closing. once everything is back to normal people will have more important things to occupy themselves with.
esselte said:
Bubblecar said:But they’re not being erased from the record. Their place in the record is being changed from one of unjustified celebration to one of critical reproval.
In a hundred years their place on the record will shift again. We don’t celebrate these assholes today through statues or ever-shifting Wikipedia articles. We recognize that they were celebrated, at that time in those places, just as we recognize those who were reviled in past times… and we attempt to understand why they were celebrated and reviled, how that contrasts to our present morality, how this relates to that which we celebrate and revile today – not to some state where we think ourselves as we are today are better than those who came before us, or worse, but rather to a state where we recognize how little different we are and how profound those little differences are… we try to learn lessons from history, not erase it from memory like like some embarrassing childhood psuedo-trauma. The present only exists for 8 seconds. Everything else is past or future. Those 8 seconds that we continually experience as a continual experience… it’s foolish to think some special understanding has suddenly come to exist in that time.
Or repurpose them:
Witty Rejoinder said:
furious said:
Witty Rejoinder said:He was king of a country that a recalcitrant West Australian thinks shouldn’t exist. This will be preserved for the ages in an obscure Australian forum. :-)
I curious about the reasons behind the wish to wipe the Belgians off the map…
PP is of Dutch heritage so he is not to be trusted. :-)
Probably something about a country being created after Waterloo with half speaking French and the other half speaking Dutch. What could go wrong???
It was a good idea at the time, but a hundred years later when France was not the aggressor it became a bit of a liability.
Bogsnorkler said:
it’s all just a fad. people are bored because of lockdowns and businesses closing. once everything is back to normal people will have more important things to occupy themselves with.
The Economy Must Grow
Witty Rejoinder said:
furious said:
Witty Rejoinder said:He was king of a country that a recalcitrant West Australian thinks shouldn’t exist. This will be preserved for the ages in an obscure Australian forum. :-)
I curious about the reasons behind the wish to wipe the Belgians off the map…
PP is of Dutch heritage so he is not to be trusted. :-)
Probably something about a country being created after Waterloo with half speaking French and the other half speaking Dutch. What could go wrong???
Thought it might be about Brussels sprouts or some such…
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
transition said:
>I don’t agree. The reason we want to change this or that name or remove this or that statue is because we have a better of grasp of history than the previous generationsan expansionist inclusive we happening there
I’m talking about those of us who want to change the names and dump the statues.
Obviously many people disagree with us.
I’ll put my hand up as one who disagrees. Where does it stop? At what misdeed can we say, “oh, that one’s ok”. As an example Ghandi was quite a racist, apparently. Should we tear down any statues that have been put up in his honour? Should we sully his name for all time or should we accept that most (all) people have feet of clay if you dig deep enough?
there’s that, to keep everyone (and everything/anything) constantly in a state of negotiation, apparently everything is political these days, that belief, or something like it, is like religion, seems to pervade both sides of politics (the extremes, frankly some of it’s damaging). The varied creatures of the world are having their political consciousness raised, awakened, apparently
behind the bullshit is something like everything is a negotiation in power relations, something like that
not sure how anyone’s meant to rest, or sleep at night
party_pants said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
furious said:I curious about the reasons behind the wish to wipe the Belgians off the map…
PP is of Dutch heritage so he is not to be trusted. :-)
Probably something about a country being created after Waterloo with half speaking French and the other half speaking Dutch. What could go wrong???
It was a good idea at the time, but a hundred years later when France was not the aggressor it became a bit of a liability.
So we should actually rename PP as party_poffertjes?
> The reason we want to change this or that name or remove this or that statue is because we have a better of grasp of history than the previous generations
PMSL. ROFL.
Neophyte said:
party_pants said:
Witty Rejoinder said:PP is of Dutch heritage so he is not to be trusted. :-)
Probably something about a country being created after Waterloo with half speaking French and the other half speaking Dutch. What could go wrong???
It was a good idea at the time, but a hundred years later when France was not the aggressor it became a bit of a liability.
So we should actually rename PP as party_poffertjes?
Whatever you like, it was not my real name to start with :p
twitter has suspended Mark Steele’s account. hahahahaha.
Bogsnorkler said:
twitter has suspended Mark Steele’s account. hahahahaha.
Never heard of him…
furious said:
Bogsnorkler said:
twitter has suspended Mark Steele’s account. hahahahaha.
Never heard of him…
5G conspiracy theorist.
Bogsnorkler said:
twitter has suspended Mark Steele’s account. hahahahaha.
Never ‘eard of him.
But I see he was born in Swanley, so he must be OK (my gran used to live there).
Bogsnorkler said:
furious said:
Bogsnorkler said:
twitter has suspended Mark Steele’s account. hahahahaha.
Never heard of him…
5G conspiracy theorist.
Well, good on Twitter then…
furious said:
Bogsnorkler said:
furious said:Never heard of him…
5G conspiracy theorist.
Well, good on Twitter then…
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanhatesthis/coronavirus-5g-conspiracy-profit
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bogsnorkler said:
twitter has suspended Mark Steele’s account. hahahahaha.
Never ‘eard of him.
But I see he was born in Swanley, so he must be OK (my gran used to live there).
Forget that, it seems that Mark Steel and Mark Steele are two different Marks.
Esselte, if you don’t mind me asking; what do you do for a living?
Witty Rejoinder said:
Esselte, if you don’t mind me asking; what do you do for a living?
Former member for Warringah…
Witty Rejoinder said:
Esselte, if you don’t mind me asking; what do you do for a living?
I’m in construction. 15 years on the tools, the last 12 in management.
I’ve also worked intermittently as a pilot, mostly flying sightseeing tourists.
Rewatching Alien. I know it’s supposed to be more dreamlike and atmospheric than realistic, but you do have to wonder why they bother with a human crew at all, if the robots are so efficient.
Never send a human to do a machine’s job.
Bubblecar said:
Rewatching Alien. I know it’s supposed to be more dreamlike and atmospheric than realistic, but you do have to wonder why they bother with a human crew at all, if the robots are so efficient.
I’ve never watched Alien.
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
Rewatching Alien. I know it’s supposed to be more dreamlike and atmospheric than realistic, but you do have to wonder why they bother with a human crew at all, if the robots are so efficient.
I’ve never watched Alien.
You ought to, it’s a good film.
Bubblecar said:
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
Rewatching Alien. I know it’s supposed to be more dreamlike and atmospheric than realistic, but you do have to wonder why they bother with a human crew at all, if the robots are so efficient.
I’ve never watched Alien.
You ought to, it’s a good film.
…in its way :)
esselte said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Esselte, if you don’t mind me asking; what do you do for a living?
I’m in construction. 15 years on the tools, the last 12 in management.
I’ve also worked intermittently as a pilot, mostly flying sightseeing tourists.
Thanks.
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
Rewatching Alien. I know it’s supposed to be more dreamlike and atmospheric than realistic, but you do have to wonder why they bother with a human crew at all, if the robots are so efficient.
I’ve never watched Alien.
Why am I not surprised?!? :-)
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
Rewatching Alien. I know it’s supposed to be more dreamlike and atmospheric than realistic, but you do have to wonder why they bother with a human crew at all, if the robots are so efficient.
I’ve never watched Alien.
Why am I not surprised?!? :-)
I watched Animal House on innumerable occasions, although not for a long, long time.
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
Rewatching Alien. I know it’s supposed to be more dreamlike and atmospheric than realistic, but you do have to wonder why they bother with a human crew at all, if the robots are so efficient.
I’ve never watched Alien.
Has there been some kind of Sibeen/Bubblecar mind swap?
Neophyte said:
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
Rewatching Alien. I know it’s supposed to be more dreamlike and atmospheric than realistic, but you do have to wonder why they bother with a human crew at all, if the robots are so efficient.
I’ve never watched Alien.
Has there been some kind of Sibeen/Bubblecar mind swap?
Freaky Friday…
Neophyte said:
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
Rewatching Alien. I know it’s supposed to be more dreamlike and atmospheric than realistic, but you do have to wonder why they bother with a human crew at all, if the robots are so efficient.
I’ve never watched Alien.
Has there been some kind of Sibeen/Bubblecar mind swap?
I’m now watching Alien for the third time, but I must admit I still haven’t seen 2001: A Space Odyssey.
Bubblecar said:
Rewatching Alien. I know it’s supposed to be more dreamlike and atmospheric than realistic, but you do have to wonder why they bother with a human crew at all, if the robots are so efficient.
If you mean the 1979 Alien directed by Ridley Scott, I don’t remember any robots in it.
btm said:
Bubblecar said:
Rewatching Alien. I know it’s supposed to be more dreamlike and atmospheric than realistic, but you do have to wonder why they bother with a human crew at all, if the robots are so efficient.
If you mean the 1979 Alien directed by Ridley Scott, I don’t remember any robots in it.
I prefer the term “artificial human”…
btm said:
Bubblecar said:
Rewatching Alien. I know it’s supposed to be more dreamlike and atmospheric than realistic, but you do have to wonder why they bother with a human crew at all, if the robots are so efficient.
If you mean the 1979 Alien directed by Ridley Scott, I don’t remember any robots in it.
Well I won’t reveal the key spoiler, ‘cos sibeen hasn’t seen it yet :)
I must admit, the second time I saw it (many years after the first) I too had forgotten the robot.
furious said:
btm said:
Bubblecar said:
Rewatching Alien. I know it’s supposed to be more dreamlike and atmospheric than realistic, but you do have to wonder why they bother with a human crew at all, if the robots are so efficient.
If you mean the 1979 Alien directed by Ridley Scott, I don’t remember any robots in it.
I prefer the term “artificial human”…
Ah, of course. I’d forgotten that robot. Thank you.
btm said:
furious said:
btm said:If you mean the 1979 Alien directed by Ridley Scott, I don’t remember any robots in it.
I prefer the term “artificial human”…
Ah, of course. I’d forgotten that robot. Thank you.
Dearie me. It’s one of the main plotlines.
Witty Rejoinder said:
btm said:
furious said:I prefer the term “artificial human”…
Ah, of course. I’d forgotten that robot. Thank you.
Dearie me. It’s one of the main plotlines.
The A2s always were a bit twitchy…
Anyway I’ll now leave that thread for the weekend, and concentrate on enjoying a few more drinks while I return to tonight’s film :)
Morning
Off to Gundaroo for a week.
Will report back.
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 9 degrees, a few clouds about and gusty. It’s been very gusty overnight. The forecast for today is for a windy 15 degrees and showers developing.
I should go and get the clothes off the line that I put out late yesterday.
Ooh, looks like I set something off in here last night. I’ll have to catch up with that later.
Pain in my mouse hand. Possibly Authorwriters.
Good morning everybody.
Partly cloudy, light breezes 18.5°C and 89% RH here BoM predicts 24°C maximum and a good chance of rain throughout most of the day.
The replacement parts arrived for my welding table, and I got its assembly completed yesterday, so I intend to finish making the bamboo splitting tool today.
But first, you guessed it:
C…o…f…f…e…e…
Morning punters and correctors, nothing of any great import or gravity to relate today at this early stage.
On today’s agenda shall be a curried sausages and leek pie.
Witty Rejoinder said:
On today’s agenda shall be a curried sausages and leek pie.
Sounds interesting and unusual.
I’m confused by this sentence:
“This adaptation deterred herbivores, but in response plant-eaters evolved stronger jaws or more resilient digestive systems.”
I feel like there’s something missing, like a “then” or “at first”.
Bogsnorkler said:
Nice one.
Michael V said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
On today’s agenda shall be a curried sausages and leek pie.
Sounds interesting and unusual.
Slow cooked stew to be started when I can raise sufficient enthusiasm.
Tamb said:
Michael V said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
On today’s agenda shall be a curried sausages and leek pie.
Sounds interesting and unusual.
Slow cooked stew to be started when I can raise sufficient enthusiasm.
I’m socialising for lunch, probably be a cooked chook.
The Holiday Forum can reveal that Ricky Valance has died at the age of 84, he was born in Ynysddu, in Caerphilly county.
Not to be with Ritchie Valens who was already on the other side.
be confuse.
Peak Warming Man said:
The Holiday Forum can reveal that Ricky Valance has died at the age of 84, he was born in Ynysddu, in Caerphilly county.
Not to be with Ritchie Valens who was already on the other side.
so it is curtains for Valance eh?
Peak Warming Man said:
The Holiday Forum can reveal that Ricky Valance has died at the age of 84, he was born in Ynysddu, in Caerphilly county.
Not to be confused with Ritchie Valens who was already on the other side.
Nor Liberty Valance.
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
The Holiday Forum can reveal that Ricky Valance has died at the age of 84, he was born in Ynysddu, in Caerphilly county.
Not to be confused with Ritchie Valens who was already on the other side.Nor Liberty Valance.
Valence
Chemistry
Valence
In chemistry, the valence or valency of an element is a measure of its combining power with other atoms when it forms chemical compounds or molecules.
Bogsnorkler said:
Peak Warming Man said:
The Holiday Forum can reveal that Ricky Valance has died at the age of 84, he was born in Ynysddu, in Caerphilly county.
Not to be with Ritchie Valens who was already on the other side.so it is curtains for Valance eh?
LOL
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
The Holiday Forum can reveal that Ricky Valance has died at the age of 84, he was born in Ynysddu, in Caerphilly county.
Not to be confused with Ritchie Valens who was already on the other side.Nor Liberty Valance.
Surely Jack is in there somewhere too.
Hmm, Chat got swamped about 11.00am. Anyway, in case you need to know, I brought in the washing from the line about half an hour ago because it looked and felt like the rain was almost here. Put it on the airer. Now the sun is out. I guess the rain has stopped over in Mount Gambier for lunch or something.
Ah, it’s on the move again now.
http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR142.loop.shtml#skip
buffy said:
Hmm, Chat got swamped about 11.00am. Anyway, in case you need to know, I brought in the washing from the line about half an hour ago because it looked and felt like the rain was almost here. Put it on the airer. Now the sun is out. I guess the rain has stopped over in Mount Gambier for lunch or something.Ah, it’s on the move again now.
http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR142.loop.shtml#skip
… and how is the firewood stacking going?
party_pants said:
buffy said:
Hmm, Chat got swamped about 11.00am. Anyway, in case you need to know, I brought in the washing from the line about half an hour ago because it looked and felt like the rain was almost here. Put it on the airer. Now the sun is out. I guess the rain has stopped over in Mount Gambier for lunch or something.Ah, it’s on the move again now.
http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR142.loop.shtml#skip
… and how is the firewood stacking going?
Mr buffy moved the firewood to the shed just after lunch. I had stacked some of it yesterday. I spent the morning mowing the backyard and doing a couple of loads of washing. I wanted to beat the rain. I won’t need to mow again for a month now. But it was particularly messy where I had weeded out a garden bed and chucked the weeds out to be mown in. Nothing from this garden other than rose prunings goes to the tip. It is all put back into the soil. I also wanted that all chopped up when the rain came so that it will decompose back into the ground better.
:)
homemade pizza thingies on bread, done under the grill, shortly
yawn
sound of coffee stirring… landed
Here you go p_p, this is the wood I stacked. It’s a double row at the back there. The basket is full to the brim with little bits. I decided not to stack higher because I can’t reach much higher.
Mr buffy barrowed this lot up to the woodshed today:
I think it was about 3 barrowloads. Not sure.
buffy said:
Here you go p_p, this is the wood I stacked. It’s a double row at the back there. The basket is full to the brim with little bits. I decided not to stack higher because I can’t reach much higher.
Mr buffy barrowed this lot up to the woodshed today:
I think it was about 3 barrowloads. Not sure.
Excellent work :)
party_pants said:
buffy said:
Here you go p_p, this is the wood I stacked. It’s a double row at the back there. The basket is full to the brim with little bits. I decided not to stack higher because I can’t reach much higher.
Mr buffy barrowed this lot up to the woodshed today:
I think it was about 3 barrowloads. Not sure.
Excellent work :)
Certainly don’t need a gym membership. Lots of squats to lift the rounds up onto the splitter yesterday. Bum muscles and top of legs were, shall we say, a bit tired last night.
buffy said:
Here you go p_p, this is the wood I stacked. It’s a double row at the back there. The basket is full to the brim with little bits. I decided not to stack higher because I can’t reach much higher.
Mr buffy barrowed this lot up to the woodshed today:
I think it was about 3 barrowloads. Not sure.
Looks like nice wood.
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:
Here you go p_p, this is the wood I stacked. It’s a double row at the back there. The basket is full to the brim with little bits. I decided not to stack higher because I can’t reach much higher.
Mr buffy barrowed this lot up to the woodshed today:
I think it was about 3 barrowloads. Not sure.
Looks like nice wood.
It’s very, very dry. And the messy splintery bits burn really hot – I assume because of the larger surface area.
Tom Pemberton installs a new brush in the paddock for his cows.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OFJgsEzEZs
sarahs mum said:
Tom Pemberton installs a new brush in the paddock for his cows.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OFJgsEzEZs
I think we need something like that for Bruna. She loves that sort of thing.
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:
Tom Pemberton installs a new brush in the paddock for his cows.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OFJgsEzEZs
I think we need something like that for Bruna. She loves that sort of thing.
I’m sure it could scaled down. I loved watching the cows watching the installation.
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:
Tom Pemberton installs a new brush in the paddock for his cows.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OFJgsEzEZs
I think we need something like that for Bruna. She loves that sort of thing.
I’m sure it could scaled down. I loved watching the cows watching the installation.
Thought bubbles over their heads, ‘this is gonna be great!’
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:I think we need something like that for Bruna. She loves that sort of thing.
I’m sure it could scaled down. I loved watching the cows watching the installation.
Thought bubbles over their heads, ‘this is gonna be great!’
I’m not sure they knew what was happening when they got together to find out what was happening. I think the bubbles might be..‘What’s going on here and will it involve cow cakes.’
sarahs mum said:
Tom Pemberton installs a new brush in the paddock for his cows.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OFJgsEzEZs
I have watched quite a few of his videos in the past.
JudgeMental said:
sarahs mum said:
Tom Pemberton installs a new brush in the paddock for his cows.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OFJgsEzEZs
I have watched quite a few of his videos in the past.
I like coos.
Henry and I watched Tom spreading muck the other day. Henry likes tractors and diggers more than cows.
God damn Kevin Smith has lost a heap of weight. Bloody born again vegans.
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:
Tom Pemberton installs a new brush in the paddock for his cows.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OFJgsEzEZs
I think we need something like that for Bruna. She loves that sort of thing.
I’m sure it could scaled down. I loved watching the cows watching the installation.
They are always such inquisitive critters. When we walk the dogs they often come to the fence. Bruna is quite interested in talking to cows. There is a small horse down the other end of town that wanted to play with her last week. We should walk that way again.
Food report. Today we are having meat pie accompanied by roast potatoes, some steamed carrots and steamed broccoli. I’ve finally made the gugelhupf, which is presently in the oven.
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:
Tom Pemberton installs a new brush in the paddock for his cows.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OFJgsEzEZs
I think we need something like that for Bruna. She loves that sort of thing.
stiff yard broom or two fixed to a frame of some sort.
shall i drive into town to get some alcohol?
buffy said:
Food report. Today we are having meat pie accompanied by roast potatoes, some steamed carrots and steamed broccoli. I’ve finally made the gugelhupf, which is presently in the oven.
Good luck with the gugelhupf.
I’m doing a hen casserole involving 1 x maryland cut, 1 x diced boob, baby taters, carrots, broccoli, artichoke hearts, tarragon, hen stock, white wine, lemon juice, cream etc.
JudgeMental said:
shall i drive into town to get some alcohol?
Of course.
buffy said:
Food report. Today we are having meat pie accompanied by roast potatoes, some steamed carrots and steamed broccoli. I’ve finally made the gugelhupf, which is presently in the oven.
I haven’t been doing a good job of nutrition. Tonight I have a piece of blade roast. I’ve got some kennebecs. Ive got a parsnip. And some onions. And I can find some freezer greens. I may cut my pumpkin. But that would be a commitment.
JudgeMental said:
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:
Tom Pemberton installs a new brush in the paddock for his cows.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OFJgsEzEZs
I think we need something like that for Bruna. She loves that sort of thing.
stiff yard broom or two fixed to a frame of some sort.
Installed into a great dane sized doggy door.
JudgeMental said:
shall i drive into town to get some alcohol?
You’ll probably have to put on some clothes.
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Food report. Today we are having meat pie accompanied by roast potatoes, some steamed carrots and steamed broccoli. I’ve finally made the gugelhupf, which is presently in the oven.
Good luck with the gugelhupf.
I’m doing a hen casserole involving 1 x maryland cut, 1 x diced boob, baby taters, carrots, broccoli, artichoke hearts, tarragon, hen stock, white wine, lemon juice, cream etc.
If you added some mustard to that you would be chicken dijonning.
sarahs mum said:
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:I’m sure it could scaled down. I loved watching the cows watching the installation.
Thought bubbles over their heads, ‘this is gonna be great!’
I’m not sure they knew what was happening when they got together to find out what was happening. I think the bubbles might be..‘What’s going on here and will it involve cow cakes.’
You under-rate bovine smarts, you species-racist.
Witty Rejoinder said:
JudgeMental said:
shall i drive into town to get some alcohol?
You’ll probably have to put on some clothes.
Pffft they know me. even the horses are used to me.
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:
Food report. Today we are having meat pie accompanied by roast potatoes, some steamed carrots and steamed broccoli. I’ve finally made the gugelhupf, which is presently in the oven.
I haven’t been doing a good job of nutrition. Tonight I have a piece of blade roast. I’ve got some kennebecs. Ive got a parsnip. And some onions. And I can find some freezer greens. I may cut my pumpkin. But that would be a commitment.
Good solid roast. Don;t forget the gravy :)
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Food report. Today we are having meat pie accompanied by roast potatoes, some steamed carrots and steamed broccoli. I’ve finally made the gugelhupf, which is presently in the oven.
Good luck with the gugelhupf.
I’m doing a hen casserole involving 1 x maryland cut, 1 x diced boob, baby taters, carrots, broccoli, artichoke hearts, tarragon, hen stock, white wine, lemon juice, cream etc.
Ta, I have made it before. The first one I made was given to friends. How do I know this? I made a heap of food for a family lunch in Melbourne about two and a half years ago and then spent the night before going with a bushfire about 5km out the road. So we didn’t go to Melbourne. Various people around town helped me out with the sweet stuff I had made.
:)
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Food report. Today we are having meat pie accompanied by roast potatoes, some steamed carrots and steamed broccoli. I’ve finally made the gugelhupf, which is presently in the oven.
Good luck with the gugelhupf.
I’m doing a hen casserole involving 1 x maryland cut, 1 x diced boob, baby taters, carrots, broccoli, artichoke hearts, tarragon, hen stock, white wine, lemon juice, cream etc.
If you added some mustard to that you would be chicken dijonning.
I possibly will. And some capers.
JudgeMental said:
shall i drive into town to get some alcohol?
No.
sibeen said:
JudgeMental said:
shall i drive into town to get some alcohol?
No.
I wouldn’t, if I were you.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:
Food report. Today we are having meat pie accompanied by roast potatoes, some steamed carrots and steamed broccoli. I’ve finally made the gugelhupf, which is presently in the oven.
I haven’t been doing a good job of nutrition. Tonight I have a piece of blade roast. I’ve got some kennebecs. Ive got a parsnip. And some onions. And I can find some freezer greens. I may cut my pumpkin. But that would be a commitment.
Good solid roast. Don;t forget the gravy :)
Roast is on. I think I will make enough to bubble and squeak. I should do pumpkin.
sibeen said:
JudgeMental said:
shall i drive into town to get some alcohol?
No.
bit fucking late to tell me!!!
JudgeMental said:
sibeen said:
JudgeMental said:
shall i drive into town to get some alcohol?
No.
bit fucking late to tell me!!!
Did you put some clothes on?
captain_spalding said:
JudgeMental said:
sibeen said:No.
bit fucking late to tell me!!!
Did you put some clothes on?
No.
JudgeMental said:
sibeen said:
JudgeMental said:
shall i drive into town to get some alcohol?
No.
bit fucking late to tell me!!!
Should have asked earlier.
JudgeMental said:
sibeen said:
JudgeMental said:
shall i drive into town to get some alcohol?
No.
bit fucking late to tell me!!!
Sheesh, you try to help some people and all they do is abuse you for it. I’m over it!
Gugelhupf. Who is joining us for dessert/supper?
sibeen said:
JudgeMental said:
sibeen said:No.
bit fucking late to tell me!!!
Sheesh, you try to help some people and all they do is abuse you for it. I’m over it!
got a bottle of guinness and some carlsburg.
and i’m drinking the Guinness from a Kilkenny glass.
buffy said:
Gugelhupf. Who is joining us for dessert/supper?
looks like it sunk a bit in the middle.
JudgeMental said:
buffy said:
Gugelhupf. Who is joining us for dessert/supper?
looks like it sunk a bit in the middle.
A guglehupf tin is a ring tin. I have previously filled the middle with strawberries or cherries. Tonight not going to bother.
buffy said:
JudgeMental said:
buffy said:
Gugelhupf. Who is joining us for dessert/supper?
looks like it sunk a bit in the middle.
A guglehupf tin is a ring tin. I have previously filled the middle with strawberries or cherries. Tonight not going to bother.
I was stirring you. :-)
JudgeMental said:
and i’m drinking the Guinness from a Kilkenny glass.
I’ll let that slide.
party_pants said:
JudgeMental said:
and i’m drinking the Guinness from a Kilkenny glass.
I’ll let that slide.
You’re far more lenient than I am.
buffy said:
Gugelhupf. Who is joining us for dessert/supper?
Ein wunderbarer Ringkuchen.
buffy said:
Gugelhupf. Who is joining us for dessert/supper?
:)
My casserole’s in the oven but will take quite a while, so right now I’m going to have a toasted muffin with strawberry jam.
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Gugelhupf. Who is joining us for dessert/supper?
Ein wunderbarer Ringkuchen.
Bundt.
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
JudgeMental said:
and i’m drinking the Guinness from a Kilkenny glass.
I’ll let that slide.
You’re far more lenient than I am.
No need to harp on
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
JudgeMental said:
and i’m drinking the Guinness from a Kilkenny glass.
I’ll let that slide.
You’re far more lenient than I am.
any sort of glass is better than drinking it out of the can or bottle.
dv said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:I’ll let that slide.
You’re far more lenient than I am.
No need to harp on
very dark and lively comment from the extra stout.
Vegies on. The pumpkin is still uncut.
party_pants said:
JudgeMental said:
and i’m drinking the Guinness from a Kilkenny glass.
I’ll let that slide.
Say two Hail Marys and an Our Father.
Ego te absolvo.
sarahs mum said:
Vegies on. The pumpkin is still uncut.
pumpkin needs another drink.
sarahs mum said:
Vegies on. The pumpkin is still uncut.
I’m going to do another vat of pumpkin soup next week and add some flesh from some slow-cooked bacon bones.
JudgeMental said:
buffy said:
JudgeMental said:looks like it sunk a bit in the middle.
A guglehupf tin is a ring tin. I have previously filled the middle with strawberries or cherries. Tonight not going to bother.
I was stirring you. :-)
Yep, I got that. But I have an image to maintain.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Vegies on. The pumpkin is still uncut.
I’m going to do another vat of pumpkin soup next week and add some flesh from some slow-cooked bacon bones.
I might think about that.
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:
JudgeMental said:
and i’m drinking the Guinness from a Kilkenny glass.
I’ll let that slide.
Say two Hail Marys and an Our Father.
Ego te absolvo.
Absolutely!
Listening to Martucci’s piano trio No.1 in C major, a fine romantic work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqXDzsRbpJU
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=5w7kwtLJtVc
This is an ad by the Lincoln Project, a political action group made up of prominent Republicans.
Cheers!
(Raises Coopers Pale Ale. Mrs V bought some, and suggested I have one.)
Bamboo splitting tool, progress report: I’ve welded the main cutting bars together and straightened them to remove the welding distortions. I’ve ground the cutting edges and centre point. I’ve cut the four outer safety-retainers for welding on tomorrow.
Having a welding table is fabulous.
My welding requires more practice, that’s for sure…
Michael V said:
Cheers!(Raises Coopers Pale Ale. Mrs V bought some, and suggested I have one.)
Bamboo splitting tool, progress report: I’ve welded the main cutting bars together and straightened them to remove the welding distortions. I’ve ground the cutting edges and centre point. I’ve cut the four outer safety-retainers for welding on tomorrow.
Having a welding table is fabulous.
My welding requires more practice, that’s for sure…
Sounds an industrious day.
dv said:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=5w7kwtLJtVcThis is an ad by the Lincoln Project, a political action group made up of prominent Republicans.
Nice ad.
sibeen said:
dv said:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=5w7kwtLJtVcThis is an ad by the Lincoln Project, a political action group made up of prominent Republicans.
Nice ad.
I found out today that the confederacy was really only for 5 years. so much for “heritage”.
dv said:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=5w7kwtLJtVcThis is an ad by the Lincoln Project, a political action group made up of prominent Republicans.
Good!
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:
Cheers!(Raises Coopers Pale Ale. Mrs V bought some, and suggested I have one.)
Bamboo splitting tool, progress report: I’ve welded the main cutting bars together and straightened them to remove the welding distortions. I’ve ground the cutting edges and centre point. I’ve cut the four outer safety-retainers for welding on tomorrow.
Having a welding table is fabulous.
My welding requires more practice, that’s for sure…
Sounds an industrious day.
Ta.
dv said:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=5w7kwtLJtVcThis is an ad by the Lincoln Project, a political action group made up of prominent Republicans.
The dinner table conversation in the Conway household must be interesting.
dv said:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=5w7kwtLJtVcThis is an ad by the Lincoln Project, a political action group made up of prominent Republicans.
I hope things become more sane sometime. November or January seem so far away.
Michael V said:
Cheers!(Raises Coopers Pale Ale. Mrs V bought some, and suggested I have one.)
Bamboo splitting tool, progress report: I’ve welded the main cutting bars together and straightened them to remove the welding distortions. I’ve ground the cutting edges and centre point. I’ve cut the four outer safety-retainers for welding on tomorrow.
Having a welding table is fabulous.
My welding requires more practice, that’s for sure…
Excellent!
I reckon the bloke who invented welding invented the angle grinder very shortly afterwards.
:-)
Rule 303 said:
Michael V said:
Cheers!(Raises Coopers Pale Ale. Mrs V bought some, and suggested I have one.)
Bamboo splitting tool, progress report: I’ve welded the main cutting bars together and straightened them to remove the welding distortions. I’ve ground the cutting edges and centre point. I’ve cut the four outer safety-retainers for welding on tomorrow.
Having a welding table is fabulous.
My welding requires more practice, that’s for sure…
Excellent!
I reckon the bloke who invented welding invented the angle grinder very shortly afterwards.
:-)
Angle grinders are fantastic tools. I can even sharpen drill bits with a hand-held angle grinder.
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:
Michael V said:
Cheers!(Raises Coopers Pale Ale. Mrs V bought some, and suggested I have one.)
Bamboo splitting tool, progress report: I’ve welded the main cutting bars together and straightened them to remove the welding distortions. I’ve ground the cutting edges and centre point. I’ve cut the four outer safety-retainers for welding on tomorrow.
Having a welding table is fabulous.
My welding requires more practice, that’s for sure…
Excellent!
I reckon the bloke who invented welding invented the angle grinder very shortly afterwards.
:-)
Angle grinders are fantastic tools. I can even sharpen drill bits with a hand-held angle grinder.
Mate…. If the answer is not angle grinder, you’re asking the wrong question.
Rule 303 said:
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:Excellent!
I reckon the bloke who invented welding invented the angle grinder very shortly afterwards.
:-)
Angle grinders are fantastic tools. I can even sharpen drill bits with a hand-held angle grinder.
Mate…. If the answer is not angle grinder, you’re asking the wrong question.
Priest: The traditional response is “I do”.
Might watch some Saint tonight.

Bubblecar said:
Might watch some Saint tonight.
Going with Stargate SG-1 and then Shakespeare and Hathaway on iView.
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:
Michael V said:
Cheers!(Raises Coopers Pale Ale. Mrs V bought some, and suggested I have one.)
Bamboo splitting tool, progress report: I’ve welded the main cutting bars together and straightened them to remove the welding distortions. I’ve ground the cutting edges and centre point. I’ve cut the four outer safety-retainers for welding on tomorrow.
Having a welding table is fabulous.
My welding requires more practice, that’s for sure…
Excellent!
I reckon the bloke who invented welding invented the angle grinder very shortly afterwards.
:-)
Angle grinders are fantastic tools. I can even sharpen drill bits with a hand-held angle grinder.
6 inch is delightful. 9 inch is just plain scary.
Oh, wait… grinder, not Grindr
esselte said:
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:Excellent!
I reckon the bloke who invented welding invented the angle grinder very shortly afterwards.
:-)
Angle grinders are fantastic tools. I can even sharpen drill bits with a hand-held angle grinder.
6 inch is delightful. 9 inch is just plain scary.
Oh, wait… grinder, not Grindr
Only like 3 people here will get that.
We had Chinese take away fro dinner, took almost an hour. While I waited I went into the adult store next door. Interesting… also got some apple cider which neither me nor mr muatnt like. It’s too beery for me but it’s 8% alco so I’m trying to finish it.
We’re child free tonight, she’s having a sleepover at Oma’s.
It’s called Three Oaks cider. Not recommended.
Witty Rejoinder said:
esselte said:
Michael V said:Angle grinders are fantastic tools. I can even sharpen drill bits with a hand-held angle grinder.
6 inch is delightful. 9 inch is just plain scary.
Oh, wait… grinder, not Grindr
Only like 3 people here will get that.
pick me! pick me!
It’s much more palatable with some sugar stirred in,
Divine Angel said:
It’s called Three Oaks cider. Not recommended.
The $64,000 question:
Why did you get cider if neither of you like it?
Witty Rejoinder said:
esselte said:
Michael V said:Angle grinders are fantastic tools. I can even sharpen drill bits with a hand-held angle grinder.
6 inch is delightful. 9 inch is just plain scary.
Oh, wait… grinder, not Grindr
Only like 3 people here will get that.
It’s actually true for both cases though. A 6 inch angle grinder is a thing of beauty, but you haven’t experienced real fear if you’ve never used a 9 inch angle grinder up top a 20 foot ladder one handed whilst trying to maintain three points of contact. That really sucks….
Divine Angel said:
We had Chinese take away fro dinner, took almost an hour. While I waited I went into the adult store next door. Interesting… also got some apple cider which neither me nor mr muatnt like. It’s too beery for me but it’s 8% alco so I’m trying to finish it.We’re child free tonight, she’s having a sleepover at Oma’s.
Can’t say you’re not putting in the effort…
;-)
Witty Rejoinder said:
esselte said:
Michael V said:Angle grinders are fantastic tools. I can even sharpen drill bits with a hand-held angle grinder.
6 inch is delightful. 9 inch is just plain scary.
Oh, wait… grinder, not Grindr
Only like 3 people here will get that.
I could do with a good grinding.
esselte said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
esselte said:6 inch is delightful. 9 inch is just plain scary.
Oh, wait… grinder, not Grindr
Only like 3 people here will get that.
It’s actually true for both cases though. A 6 inch angle grinder is a thing of beauty, but you haven’t experienced real fear if you’ve never used a 9 inch angle grinder up top a 20 foot ladder one handed whilst trying to maintain three points of contact. That really sucks….
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a 6” angle grinder. I’ve seen 4, 5, 9, and 12(2-stroke demo saw), but not 6.
I had an aluminium-bodied 9” go live on me on a roof when I was about 17. I was grinding the tops off the screws on an Asbestos roof and the bloody thing earthed to the casing (that is, me). Somehow I didn’t die.
Woodie said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
esselte said:6 inch is delightful. 9 inch is just plain scary.
Oh, wait… grinder, not Grindr
Only like 3 people here will get that.
I could do with a good grinding.
Bunnings have a wide range of grinders at affordable prices. Highly recommended.
Woodie said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
esselte said:6 inch is delightful. 9 inch is just plain scary.
Oh, wait… grinder, not Grindr
Only like 3 people here will get that.
I could do with a good grinding.
I prefer linishing and buffing these days. So much gentler than reaming, boring, or hammering.
Anyone know what I’ve done with my router? Can’t find it anywhere. (The woodworking type, not the computer networking thingo.)
Bubblecar said:
Divine Angel said:
It’s called Three Oaks cider. Not recommended.
The $64,000 question:
Why did you get cider if neither of you like it?
We like cider, just not this brand.
esselte said:
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:Excellent!
I reckon the bloke who invented welding invented the angle grinder very shortly afterwards.
:-)
Angle grinders are fantastic tools. I can even sharpen drill bits with a hand-held angle grinder.
6 inch is delightful. 9 inch is just plain scary.
Oh, wait… grinder, not Grindr
idgi
btm said:
Anyone know what I’ve done with my router? Can’t find it anywhere. (The woodworking type, not the computer networking thingo.)
Sorry, no. But if you need a new one, Bunnings has a wide range of routers all at affordable prices.
btm said:
Anyone know what I’ve done with my router? Can’t find it anywhere. (The woodworking type, not the computer networking thingo.)
Don’t you have a spare?
Or one loose and one attached to a routing table.
btm said:
esselte said:
Michael V said:Angle grinders are fantastic tools. I can even sharpen drill bits with a hand-held angle grinder.
6 inch is delightful. 9 inch is just plain scary.
Oh, wait… grinder, not Grindr
idgi
Sorry, I can’t explain. It’s typically at around this point I go from making mildly amusing jokes to actually accidently insulting people I have no desire to insult. They get offended and tear down my statue…. which mumbles mumbles stone hard erection.
party_pants said:
btm said:
Anyone know what I’ve done with my router? Can’t find it anywhere. (The woodworking type, not the computer networking thingo.)
Don’t you have a spare?
Or one loose and one attached to a routing table.
No, I haven’t got a spare yet. Can I borrow yours?
btm said:
party_pants said:
btm said:
Anyone know what I’ve done with my router? Can’t find it anywhere. (The woodworking type, not the computer networking thingo.)
Don’t you have a spare?
Or one loose and one attached to a routing table.
No, I haven’t got a spare yet. Can I borrow yours?
What ya routing?
Divine Angel said:
Bubblecar said:
Divine Angel said:
It’s called Three Oaks cider. Not recommended.
The $64,000 question:
Why did you get cider if neither of you like it?
We like cider, just not this brand.
Question still stands. Why buy a brand of cider you don’t like?
btm said:
esselte said:
Michael V said:Angle grinders are fantastic tools. I can even sharpen drill bits with a hand-held angle grinder.
6 inch is delightful. 9 inch is just plain scary.
Oh, wait… grinder, not Grindr
idgi
Grindr is a relationship app where homosexuals men can meet up to have sex make friends…
btm said:
esselte said:
Michael V said:Angle grinders are fantastic tools. I can even sharpen drill bits with a hand-held angle grinder.
6 inch is delightful. 9 inch is just plain scary.
Oh, wait… grinder, not Grindr
idgi
Grindr is an online dating site.
esselte said:
btm said:
Anyone know what I’ve done with my router? Can’t find it anywhere. (The woodworking type, not the computer networking thingo.)
Sorry, no. But if you need a new one, Bunnings has a wide range of routers all at affordable prices.
Just sent Bunnings a query as to why, when all other COVID-panic items are again in adequate supply, it’s still impossible to buy metho at Bunnings.
Wouldn’t have anything to do with them flogging ethanol hand sanitiser at $13 -$14 per litre, i suppose.
Rule 303 said:
btm said:
party_pants said:Don’t you have a spare?
Or one loose and one attached to a routing table.
No, I haven’t got a spare yet. Can I borrow yours?
What ya routing?
Nothing. I can’t find my router.
Witty Rejoinder said:
btm said:
esselte said:6 inch is delightful. 9 inch is just plain scary.
Oh, wait… grinder, not Grindr
idgi
Grindr is a relationship app where homosexuals men can meet up to
have sexmake friends…
Ah. Thanks. Is there an equivalent for lesbians? (Asking for a friend.)
btm said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
btm said:idgi
Grindr is a relationship app where homosexuals men can meet up to
have sexmake friends…
Ah. Thanks. Is there an equivalent for lesbians? (Asking for a friend.)
Sandr?
captain_spalding said:
btm said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Grindr is a relationship app where homosexuals men can meet up to
have sexmake friends…
Ah. Thanks. Is there an equivalent for lesbians? (Asking for a friend.)
Sandr?
lol
captain_spalding said:
btm said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Grindr is a relationship app where homosexuals men can meet up to
have sexmake friends…
Ah. Thanks. Is there an equivalent for lesbians? (Asking for a friend.)
Sandr?
Aahhh… I shouldn’t laugh, but….
LOL.
Rule 303 said:
captain_spalding said:
btm said:Ah. Thanks. Is there an equivalent for lesbians? (Asking for a friend.)
Sandr?
Aahhh… I shouldn’t laugh, but….
LOL.
there is one called scissr
I have been exploring all the dating aps lately… now all I get is ads for dating aps.
Arts said:
Rule 303 said:
captain_spalding said:Sandr?
Aahhh… I shouldn’t laugh, but….
LOL.
there is one called scissr
And i suppose its user are called ‘scissr sistrs’?
captain_spalding said:
Arts said:
Rule 303 said:Aahhh… I shouldn’t laugh, but….
LOL.
there is one called scissr
And i suppose its user are called ‘scissr sistrs’?
I don’t know it didn’t match my criteria so I didn’t explore it more.
captain_spalding said:
Divine Angel said:
Bubblecar said:The $64,000 question:
Why did you get cider if neither of you like it?
We like cider, just not this brand.
Question still stands. Why buy a brand of cider you don’t like?
Got to try it once otherwise how would you know if you liked it or not?. I often buy new beers just to try. Especially if they are on special.
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:
Divine Angel said:We like cider, just not this brand.
Question still stands. Why buy a brand of cider you don’t like?
Got to try it once otherwise how would you know if you liked it or not?. I often buy new beers just to try. Especially if they are on special.
yes.. though, as a rule I have found that 8% anything isn’t ever really tasty.
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:
Divine Angel said:We like cider, just not this brand.
Question still stands. Why buy a brand of cider you don’t like?
Got to try it once otherwise how would you know if you liked it or not?. I often buy new beers just to try. Especially if they are on special.
OK, didn’t know you hadn’t had that brand before. Understand now.
Arts said:
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:Question still stands. Why buy a brand of cider you don’t like?
Got to try it once otherwise how would you know if you liked it or not?. I often buy new beers just to try. Especially if they are on special.
yes.. though, as a rule I have found that 8% anything isn’t ever really tasty.
I usually don’t have my reading glasses on at the time of making the selection.
Now that is being smart.
https://i.imgur.com/MFNuWDw.mp4
I’m sure I’ve mentioned before that I help out with the moderation of a Facebook group that’s mostly concerned with an AFL footy club. And I really do mean ‘help out’ – I don’t know much about the subject.
Anyway, the AFL, the club, and the admin team at the page have recently taken a strong stance on racism. This is a new idea for them. The admin statements about this on the page have been met with open hostility from a small group of the members. It seems that racism is so deeply embedded into Australian society that when you attack it, people think you’re attacking their national identity.
And the responses! The privilege, the stupidity, the arrogance, the entitlement, the expectation, the gormless dumbfuckery… it’s enough to turn your stomach.
>sigh<
Arts said:
Rule 303 said:
captain_spalding said:Sandr?
Aahhh… I shouldn’t laugh, but….
LOL.
there is one called scissr
Heh.
Arts said:
I have been exploring all the dating aps lately… now all I get is ads for dating aps.
MumRule did her Honours thesis on their precursor – ‘Singles’ ads.
PermeateFree said:
Now that is being smart.https://i.imgur.com/MFNuWDw.mp4
You can tell that he’s done that before.
Rule 303 said:
I’m sure I’ve mentioned before that I help out with the moderation of a Facebook group that’s mostly concerned with an AFL footy club. And I really do mean ‘help out’ – I don’t know much about the subject.Anyway, the AFL, the club, and the admin team at the page have recently taken a strong stance on racism. This is a new idea for them. The admin statements about this on the page have been met with open hostility from a small group of the members. It seems that racism is so deeply embedded into Australian society that when you attack it, people think you’re attacking their national identity.
And the responses! The privilege, the stupidity, the arrogance, the entitlement, the expectation, the gormless dumbfuckery… it’s enough to turn your stomach.
>sigh<
I was impressed when the Dockers made a public stand against someone who wanted a refund on thier membership because of the players that might kneel during th NA.
PermeateFree said:
Man sleeps on couch a lot these nights.
Arts said:
Rule 303 said:
I’m sure I’ve mentioned before that I help out with the moderation of a Facebook group that’s mostly concerned with an AFL footy club. And I really do mean ‘help out’ – I don’t know much about the subject.Anyway, the AFL, the club, and the admin team at the page have recently taken a strong stance on racism. This is a new idea for them. The admin statements about this on the page have been met with open hostility from a small group of the members. It seems that racism is so deeply embedded into Australian society that when you attack it, people think you’re attacking their national identity.
And the responses! The privilege, the stupidity, the arrogance, the entitlement, the expectation, the gormless dumbfuckery… it’s enough to turn your stomach.
>sigh<
I was impressed when the Dockers made a public stand against someone who wanted a refund on thier membership because of the players that might kneel during th NA.
their.
Rule 303 said:
Arts said:
I have been exploring all the dating aps lately… now all I get is ads for dating aps.
MumRule did her Honours thesis on their precursor – ‘Singles’ ads.
yeah, but they didn’t have an algorithm that interrupts your daily life.
Arts said:
Rule 303 said:
I’m sure I’ve mentioned before that I help out with the moderation of a Facebook group that’s mostly concerned with an AFL footy club. And I really do mean ‘help out’ – I don’t know much about the subject.Anyway, the AFL, the club, and the admin team at the page have recently taken a strong stance on racism. This is a new idea for them. The admin statements about this on the page have been met with open hostility from a small group of the members. It seems that racism is so deeply embedded into Australian society that when you attack it, people think you’re attacking their national identity.
And the responses! The privilege, the stupidity, the arrogance, the entitlement, the expectation, the gormless dumbfuckery… it’s enough to turn your stomach.
>sigh<
I was impressed when the Dockers made a public stand against someone who wanted a refund on thier membership because of the players that might kneel during th NA.
It was very principled of them.
Also, they needed the money.
Arts said:
Rule 303 said:
I’m sure I’ve mentioned before that I help out with the moderation of a Facebook group that’s mostly concerned with an AFL footy club. And I really do mean ‘help out’ – I don’t know much about the subject.Anyway, the AFL, the club, and the admin team at the page have recently taken a strong stance on racism. This is a new idea for them. The admin statements about this on the page have been met with open hostility from a small group of the members. It seems that racism is so deeply embedded into Australian society that when you attack it, people think you’re attacking their national identity.
And the responses! The privilege, the stupidity, the arrogance, the entitlement, the expectation, the gormless dumbfuckery… it’s enough to turn your stomach.
>sigh<
I was impressed when the Dockers made a public stand against someone who wanted a refund on thier membership because of the players that might kneel during th NA.
Ah, we’ve gone in a bit harder than that. I’ve been booting people for three days.
Obviously, it’s only the slow learners still whining at this stage.
Yeh… Tell me about your freedom of speech agin, mate.
captain_spalding said:
btm said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Grindr is a relationship app where homosexuals men can meet up to
have sexmake friends…
Ah. Thanks. Is there an equivalent for lesbians? (Asking for a friend.)
Sandr?
ROFLROFLROFL
Arts said:
Rule 303 said:
Arts said:
I have been exploring all the dating aps lately… now all I get is ads for dating aps.
MumRule did her Honours thesis on their precursor – ‘Singles’ ads.
yeah, but they didn’t have an algorithm that interrupts your daily life.
Sure, but she could (and did!) compose adds to illicit any response she wanted. I think she might have enjoyed it more than a little, actually.
:-)
Rule 303 said:
I’m sure I’ve mentioned before that I help out with the moderation of a Facebook group that’s mostly concerned with an AFL footy club. And I really do mean ‘help out’ – I don’t know much about the subject.Anyway, the AFL, the club, and the admin team at the page have recently taken a strong stance on racism. This is a new idea for them. The admin statements about this on the page have been met with open hostility from a small group of the members. It seems that racism is so deeply embedded into Australian society that when you attack it, people think you’re attacking their national identity.
And the responses! The privilege, the stupidity, the arrogance, the entitlement, the expectation, the gormless dumbfuckery… it’s enough to turn your stomach.
>sigh<
Hostility from a small group is probably expected. I don’t think it means that racism is deeply embedded in wider society as you suggest.
I super exciting news I am back on duty at the zoo tomorrow! I went last week the first day it opened up again… but tomorrow I am back docenting…. huzzah!
Arts said:
Rule 303 said:
I’m sure I’ve mentioned before that I help out with the moderation of a Facebook group that’s mostly concerned with an AFL footy club. And I really do mean ‘help out’ – I don’t know much about the subject.Anyway, the AFL, the club, and the admin team at the page have recently taken a strong stance on racism. This is a new idea for them. The admin statements about this on the page have been met with open hostility from a small group of the members. It seems that racism is so deeply embedded into Australian society that when you attack it, people think you’re attacking their national identity.
And the responses! The privilege, the stupidity, the arrogance, the entitlement, the expectation, the gormless dumbfuckery… it’s enough to turn your stomach.
>sigh<
I was impressed when the Dockers made a public stand against someone who wanted a refund on thier membership because of the players that might kneel during th NA.
The NA is only played before finals. Hasn’t been a problem for the Dockers for a while.
Arts said:
I super exciting news I am back on duty at the zoo tomorrow! I went last week the first day it opened up again… but tomorrow I am back docenting…. huzzah!
hope the animals haven’t forgotten you.
Rule 303 said:
Arts said:
Rule 303 said:MumRule did her Honours thesis on their precursor – ‘Singles’ ads.
yeah, but they didn’t have an algorithm that interrupts your daily life.
Sure, but she could (and did!) compose adds to illicit any response she wanted. I think she might have enjoyed it more than a little, actually.
:-)
Elicit. Illicit means something completely different.
party_pants said:
Arts said:
Rule 303 said:
I’m sure I’ve mentioned before that I help out with the moderation of a Facebook group that’s mostly concerned with an AFL footy club. And I really do mean ‘help out’ – I don’t know much about the subject.Anyway, the AFL, the club, and the admin team at the page have recently taken a strong stance on racism. This is a new idea for them. The admin statements about this on the page have been met with open hostility from a small group of the members. It seems that racism is so deeply embedded into Australian society that when you attack it, people think you’re attacking their national identity.
And the responses! The privilege, the stupidity, the arrogance, the entitlement, the expectation, the gormless dumbfuckery… it’s enough to turn your stomach.
>sigh<
I was impressed when the Dockers made a public stand against someone who wanted a refund on thier membership because of the players that might kneel during th NA.
The NA is only played before finals. Hasn’t been a problem for the Dockers for a while.
Oh, and ANZAC day weekend.
Arts said:
I super exciting news I am back on duty at the zoo tomorrow! I went last week the first day it opened up again… but tomorrow I am back docenting…. huzzah!
Docenting?
Witty Rejoinder said:
Rule 303 said:
I’m sure I’ve mentioned before that I help out with the moderation of a Facebook group that’s mostly concerned with an AFL footy club. And I really do mean ‘help out’ – I don’t know much about the subject.Anyway, the AFL, the club, and the admin team at the page have recently taken a strong stance on racism. This is a new idea for them. The admin statements about this on the page have been met with open hostility from a small group of the members. It seems that racism is so deeply embedded into Australian society that when you attack it, people think you’re attacking their national identity.
And the responses! The privilege, the stupidity, the arrogance, the entitlement, the expectation, the gormless dumbfuckery… it’s enough to turn your stomach.
>sigh<
Hostility from a small group is probably expected. I don’t think it means that racism is deeply embedded in wider society as you suggest.
I admire your hopefulness, Witty. Sadly I am compelled by evidence to disagree.
party_pants said:
Arts said:
Rule 303 said:
I’m sure I’ve mentioned before that I help out with the moderation of a Facebook group that’s mostly concerned with an AFL footy club. And I really do mean ‘help out’ – I don’t know much about the subject.Anyway, the AFL, the club, and the admin team at the page have recently taken a strong stance on racism. This is a new idea for them. The admin statements about this on the page have been met with open hostility from a small group of the members. It seems that racism is so deeply embedded into Australian society that when you attack it, people think you’re attacking their national identity.
And the responses! The privilege, the stupidity, the arrogance, the entitlement, the expectation, the gormless dumbfuckery… it’s enough to turn your stomach.
>sigh<
I was impressed when the Dockers made a public stand against someone who wanted a refund on thier membership because of the players that might kneel during th NA.
The NA is only played before finals. Hasn’t been a problem for the Dockers for a while.
oh.. then what was it about?
JudgeMental said:
Arts said:
I super exciting news I am back on duty at the zoo tomorrow! I went last week the first day it opened up again… but tomorrow I am back docenting…. huzzah!hope the animals haven’t forgotten you.
me too
poikilotherm said:
Arts said:
I super exciting news I am back on duty at the zoo tomorrow! I went last week the first day it opened up again… but tomorrow I am back docenting…. huzzah!Docenting?
it’s a word… shut up.
Arts said:
I super exciting news I am back on duty at the zoo tomorrow! I went last week the first day it opened up again… but tomorrow I am back docenting…. huzzah!
Huzzah!
Arts said:
poikilotherm said:
Arts said:
I super exciting news I am back on duty at the zoo tomorrow! I went last week the first day it opened up again… but tomorrow I am back docenting…. huzzah!Docenting?
it’s a word… shut up.
What was it meant to be?
Have fun at the zoo. Our local one opened last week.
btm said:
Rule 303 said:
Arts said:yeah, but they didn’t have an algorithm that interrupts your daily life.
Sure, but she could (and did!) compose adds to illicit any response she wanted. I think she might have enjoyed it more than a little, actually.
:-)
Elicit. Illicit means something completely different.
Feel better now?
Rule 303 said:
btm said:
Rule 303 said:Sure, but she could (and did!) compose adds to illicit any response she wanted. I think she might have enjoyed it more than a little, actually.
:-)
Elicit. Illicit means something completely different.
Feel better now?
Alice T
Rule 303 said:
btm said:
Rule 303 said:Sure, but she could (and did!) compose adds to illicit any response she wanted. I think she might have enjoyed it more than a little, actually.
:-)
Elicit. Illicit means something completely different.
Feel better now?
being an ex printer and having done lots of proofreading it is hard to not say things sometimes.
:-)
poikilotherm said:
Arts said:
poikilotherm said:Docenting?
it’s a word… shut up.
What was it meant to be?
Have fun at the zoo. Our local one opened last week.
it’s the verbised form of docent.
Boobs
Arts said:
poikilotherm said:
Arts said:it’s a word… shut up.
What was it meant to be?
Have fun at the zoo. Our local one opened last week.
it’s the verbised form of docent.
Wouldn’t docent already be a verb?
Anyway, enjoy giving the plebs some learnings at the zoo.
In environment news.
The status of the Superb lyrebird has just been changed from Least Concern to Threatened, because about half its habitat was lost in the summer bushfires.
Rule 303 said:
I’m sure I’ve mentioned before that I help out with the moderation of a Facebook group that’s mostly concerned with an AFL footy club. And I really do mean ‘help out’ – I don’t know much about the subject.Anyway, the AFL, the club, and the admin team at the page have recently taken a strong stance on racism. This is a new idea for them. The admin statements about this on the page have been met with open hostility from a small group of the members. It seems that racism is so deeply embedded into Australian society that when you attack it, people think you’re attacking their national identity.
And the responses! The privilege, the stupidity, the arrogance, the entitlement, the expectation, the gormless dumbfuckery… it’s enough to turn your stomach.
>sigh<
Thing is, racism means different things to different people.
These days, online, there’s a lot of people who think they are progressives who subscribe to an ideology derived (poorly) from a scoiological discipline known as Critical Theory.
People who misunderstand Critcal Theory and incorporate that misunderstanding in to their world-view will posit that all “white” people are racist, without exception, because they benefit systemically from post-Colonial advantages which are beneficial to the descendants of European colonists. They will tell you that racism= prejudice+power, and because white people have excessive power they are necessarily prejudiced, therefore racist.
Most other people think of racism in terms of the dictionary definition. And when these two groups meet, this inevitably leads to clashes. And these clashes can lead to people who are otherwise perfectly nice and not racist in any traditional sense of the word taking offence at being labelled racist and then verbalizing their displeasure in ways which seem extreme and come across particularly badly in written formats, which then feeds back in to the sense that the “progressives” have that anyone not as “progressive” as they are is some kind of bigoted, sexist, racist arsehole neo-Nazi white supremacist mofo.
I don’t know the specifics of the privilege, the stupidity, the arrogance, the entitlement, the expectation, the gormless dumbfuckery that you have seen, but I would urge you to consider it with a charitable view before dismissing the people you feel have exhibited those traits.
JudgeMental said:
Rule 303 said:
btm said:Elicit. Illicit means something completely different.
Feel better now?
being an ex printer and having done lots of proofreading it is hard to not say things sometimes.
:-)
I know we have a high rate of autism and the crushingly dull pedantry that goes with it, but I encourage you to resist that urge, Boris. We have much, much better uses for our brains.
poikilotherm said:
Arts said:
poikilotherm said:What was it meant to be?
Have fun at the zoo. Our local one opened last week.
it’s the verbised form of docent.
Wouldn’t docent already be a verb?
Anyway, enjoy giving the plebs some learnings at the zoo.
if I am a docent… then it’s a noun
if I am doing a docent duty then it’s a verb
if I am docenting then it’s also a verb
in Latin it means ‘to teach’ so its a latin verb…
so yes… and also no… but mainly yes.
Rule 303 said:
JudgeMental said:
Rule 303 said:Feel better now?
being an ex printer and having done lots of proofreading it is hard to not say things sometimes.
:-)
I know we have a high rate of autism and the crushingly dull pedantry that goes with it, but I encourage you to resist that urge, Boris. We have much, much better uses for our brains.
I shall ignore the niggle.
esselte said:
Rule 303 said:
I’m sure I’ve mentioned before that I help out with the moderation of a Facebook group that’s mostly concerned with an AFL footy club. And I really do mean ‘help out’ – I don’t know much about the subject.Anyway, the AFL, the club, and the admin team at the page have recently taken a strong stance on racism. This is a new idea for them. The admin statements about this on the page have been met with open hostility from a small group of the members. It seems that racism is so deeply embedded into Australian society that when you attack it, people think you’re attacking their national identity.
And the responses! The privilege, the stupidity, the arrogance, the entitlement, the expectation, the gormless dumbfuckery… it’s enough to turn your stomach.
>sigh<
Thing is, racism means different things to different people.
These days, online, there’s a lot of people who think they are progressives who subscribe to an ideology derived (poorly) from a scoiological discipline known as Critical Theory.
People who misunderstand Critcal Theory and incorporate that misunderstanding in to their world-view will posit that all “white” people are racist, without exception, because they benefit systemically from post-Colonial advantages which are beneficial to the descendants of European colonists. They will tell you that racism= prejudice+power, and because white people have excessive power they are necessarily prejudiced, therefore racist.
Most other people think of racism in terms of the dictionary definition. And when these two groups meet, this inevitably leads to clashes. And these clashes can lead to people who are otherwise perfectly nice and not racist in any traditional sense of the word taking offence at being labelled racist and then verbalizing their displeasure in ways which seem extreme and come across particularly badly in written formats, which then feeds back in to the sense that the “progressives” have that anyone not as “progressive” as they are is some kind of bigoted, sexist, racist arsehole neo-Nazi white supremacist mofo.
I don’t know the specifics of the privilege, the stupidity, the arrogance, the entitlement, the expectation, the gormless dumbfuckery that you have seen, but I would urge you to consider it with a charitable view before dismissing the people you feel have exhibited those traits.
It’s much less subtle than that, I’m afraid. I’m talking about actual white supremacists applying maximum force about being restricted in what they’re allowed to say.
Arts said:
poikilotherm said:
Arts said:it’s the verbised form of docent.
Wouldn’t docent already be a verb?
Anyway, enjoy giving the plebs some learnings at the zoo.
if I am a docent… then it’s a noun
if I am doing a docent duty then it’s a verb
if I am docenting then it’s also a verb
in Latin it means ‘to teach’ so its a latin verb…
so yes… and also no… but mainly yes.
bloody romans!
Divine Angel said:
Boobs
Hey drunk BUGF. Are you having a good night?
Rule 303 said:
esselte said:
Rule 303 said:
I’m sure I’ve mentioned before that I help out with the moderation of a Facebook group that’s mostly concerned with an AFL footy club. And I really do mean ‘help out’ – I don’t know much about the subject.Anyway, the AFL, the club, and the admin team at the page have recently taken a strong stance on racism. This is a new idea for them. The admin statements about this on the page have been met with open hostility from a small group of the members. It seems that racism is so deeply embedded into Australian society that when you attack it, people think you’re attacking their national identity.
And the responses! The privilege, the stupidity, the arrogance, the entitlement, the expectation, the gormless dumbfuckery… it’s enough to turn your stomach.
>sigh<
Thing is, racism means different things to different people.
These days, online, there’s a lot of people who think they are progressives who subscribe to an ideology derived (poorly) from a scoiological discipline known as Critical Theory.
People who misunderstand Critcal Theory and incorporate that misunderstanding in to their world-view will posit that all “white” people are racist, without exception, because they benefit systemically from post-Colonial advantages which are beneficial to the descendants of European colonists. They will tell you that racism= prejudice+power, and because white people have excessive power they are necessarily prejudiced, therefore racist.
Most other people think of racism in terms of the dictionary definition. And when these two groups meet, this inevitably leads to clashes. And these clashes can lead to people who are otherwise perfectly nice and not racist in any traditional sense of the word taking offence at being labelled racist and then verbalizing their displeasure in ways which seem extreme and come across particularly badly in written formats, which then feeds back in to the sense that the “progressives” have that anyone not as “progressive” as they are is some kind of bigoted, sexist, racist arsehole neo-Nazi white supremacist mofo.
I don’t know the specifics of the privilege, the stupidity, the arrogance, the entitlement, the expectation, the gormless dumbfuckery that you have seen, but I would urge you to consider it with a charitable view before dismissing the people you feel have exhibited those traits.
It’s much less subtle than that, I’m afraid. I’m talking about actual white supremacists applying maximum force about being restricted in what they’re allowed to say.
what FB is this? I would like a read.
JudgeMental said:
Rule 303 said:
JudgeMental said:being an ex printer and having done lots of proofreading it is hard to not say things sometimes.
:-)
I know we have a high rate of autism and the crushingly dull pedantry that goes with it, but I encourage you to resist that urge, Boris. We have much, much better uses for our brains.
I shall ignore the niggle.
I knew you could do it. Good work.
:-)
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
Boobs
Hey drunk BUGF. Are you having a good night?
Can’t be too good if drinks and a trip to the sex shop result in more foruming…
poikilotherm said:
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
Boobs
Hey drunk BUGF. Are you having a good night?
Can’t be too good if drinks and a trip to the sex shop result in more foruming…
Maybe we’re in the interregnum of an alcohol fueled sex-romp.
JudgeMental said:
Rule 303 said:
esselte said:Thing is, racism means different things to different people.
These days, online, there’s a lot of people who think they are progressives who subscribe to an ideology derived (poorly) from a scoiological discipline known as Critical Theory.
People who misunderstand Critcal Theory and incorporate that misunderstanding in to their world-view will posit that all “white” people are racist, without exception, because they benefit systemically from post-Colonial advantages which are beneficial to the descendants of European colonists. They will tell you that racism= prejudice+power, and because white people have excessive power they are necessarily prejudiced, therefore racist.
Most other people think of racism in terms of the dictionary definition. And when these two groups meet, this inevitably leads to clashes. And these clashes can lead to people who are otherwise perfectly nice and not racist in any traditional sense of the word taking offence at being labelled racist and then verbalizing their displeasure in ways which seem extreme and come across particularly badly in written formats, which then feeds back in to the sense that the “progressives” have that anyone not as “progressive” as they are is some kind of bigoted, sexist, racist arsehole neo-Nazi white supremacist mofo.
I don’t know the specifics of the privilege, the stupidity, the arrogance, the entitlement, the expectation, the gormless dumbfuckery that you have seen, but I would urge you to consider it with a charitable view before dismissing the people you feel have exhibited those traits.
It’s much less subtle than that, I’m afraid. I’m talking about actual white supremacists applying maximum force about being restricted in what they’re allowed to say.
what FB is this? I would like a read.
It’s been removed as it happened, mate.
There’s another thing the slow learner group don’t seem to grok – Admins and mods can see everything and do anything on the page. It’s not a democracy. In fact, it’s dangerously autocratic.
Rule 303 said:
JudgeMental said:
Rule 303 said:It’s much less subtle than that, I’m afraid. I’m talking about actual white supremacists applying maximum force about being restricted in what they’re allowed to say.
what FB is this? I would like a read.
It’s been removed as it happened, mate.
There’s another thing the slow learner group don’t seem to grok – Admins and mods can see everything and do anything on the page. It’s not a democracy. In fact, it’s dangerously autocratic.
Yeah. I tell the arguers that on this page , sssf fb, i am god.
JudgeMental said:
Rule 303 said:
JudgeMental said:what FB is this? I would like a read.
It’s been removed as it happened, mate.
There’s another thing the slow learner group don’t seem to grok – Admins and mods can see everything and do anything on the page. It’s not a democracy. In fact, it’s dangerously autocratic.
Yeah. I tell the arguers that on this page , sssf fb, i am god.
hope you say a god and not the god.
Arts said:
poikilotherm said:
Arts said:it’s the verbised form of docent.
Wouldn’t docent already be a verb?
Anyway, enjoy giving the plebs some learnings at the zoo.
if I am a docent… then it’s a noun
if I am doing a docent duty then it’s a verb
if I am docenting then it’s also a verb
in Latin it means ‘to teach’ so its a latin verb…
so yes… and also no… but mainly yes.
Ahhh… So you are docentivated.
poikilotherm said:
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
Boobs
Hey drunk BUGF. Are you having a good night?
Can’t be too good if drinks and a trip to the sex shop result in more foruming…
OK, I’m tipping there’s not too much exploring boundaries going on in the Poik household.
:-))
Rule 303 said:
esselte said:
Rule 303 said:
I’m sure I’ve mentioned before that I help out with the moderation of a Facebook group that’s mostly concerned with an AFL footy club. And I really do mean ‘help out’ – I don’t know much about the subject.Anyway, the AFL, the club, and the admin team at the page have recently taken a strong stance on racism. This is a new idea for them. The admin statements about this on the page have been met with open hostility from a small group of the members. It seems that racism is so deeply embedded into Australian society that when you attack it, people think you’re attacking their national identity.
And the responses! The privilege, the stupidity, the arrogance, the entitlement, the expectation, the gormless dumbfuckery… it’s enough to turn your stomach.
>sigh<
Thing is, racism means different things to different people.
These days, online, there’s a lot of people who think they are progressives who subscribe to an ideology derived (poorly) from a scoiological discipline known as Critical Theory.
People who misunderstand Critcal Theory and incorporate that misunderstanding in to their world-view will posit that all “white” people are racist, without exception, because they benefit systemically from post-Colonial advantages which are beneficial to the descendants of European colonists. They will tell you that racism= prejudice+power, and because white people have excessive power they are necessarily prejudiced, therefore racist.
Most other people think of racism in terms of the dictionary definition. And when these two groups meet, this inevitably leads to clashes. And these clashes can lead to people who are otherwise perfectly nice and not racist in any traditional sense of the word taking offence at being labelled racist and then verbalizing their displeasure in ways which seem extreme and come across particularly badly in written formats, which then feeds back in to the sense that the “progressives” have that anyone not as “progressive” as they are is some kind of bigoted, sexist, racist arsehole neo-Nazi white supremacist mofo.
I don’t know the specifics of the privilege, the stupidity, the arrogance, the entitlement, the expectation, the gormless dumbfuckery that you have seen, but I would urge you to consider it with a charitable view before dismissing the people you feel have exhibited those traits.
It’s much less subtle than that, I’m afraid. I’m talking about actual white supremacists applying maximum force about being restricted in what they’re allowed to say.
We do subscribe the the principal of freedom of expression. It’s Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
“Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.”
Some times people respond to attempted suppression (or perceived attempted suppression) of their Human Rights by espousing ideas which they don’t necessarily personally subscribe to but which are demonstrations of the extremity of what they believe is and should be permissible. It’s a way of enshrining their rights. “Hey look, I can say whatever I damned well please” is different to “the things I’m saying right now are things I truly believe.”
Upping the ante a little
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-13/australian-sentenced-to-death-in-china-for-drug-smuggling/12352374
I’m glad I’ve already seen the Terracotta Warriors and Great Wall. Not that it was all that safe back in 2012, but safer than it will be for tourists in the years to come.
Speedy said:
Upping the ante a littlehttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-13/australian-sentenced-to-death-in-china-for-drug-smuggling/12352374
I’m glad I’ve already seen the Terracotta Warriors and Great Wall. Not that it was all that safe back in 2012, but safer than it will be for tourists in the years to come.
Maybe their authorities think that the smuggling of methamphetamine makes it less safe for tourists, you never know.
SCIENCE said:
Speedy said:
Upping the ante a littlehttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-13/australian-sentenced-to-death-in-china-for-drug-smuggling/12352374
I’m glad I’ve already seen the Terracotta Warriors and Great Wall. Not that it was all that safe back in 2012, but safer than it will be for tourists in the years to come.
Maybe their authorities think that the smuggling of methamphetamine makes it less safe for tourists, you never know.
Hmmm. Could be :)
Speedy said:
Upping the ante a littlehttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-13/australian-sentenced-to-death-in-china-for-drug-smuggling/12352374
I’m glad I’ve already seen the Terracotta Warriors and Great Wall. Not that it was all that safe back in 2012, but safer than it will be for tourists in the years to come.
In continuing retaliations, China has announced that it will no longer be buying Australian politicians.
esselte said:
Rule 303 said:
It’s much less subtle than that, I’m afraid. I’m talking about actual white supremacists applying maximum force about being restricted in what they’re allowed to say.
We do subscribe the the principal of freedom of expression. It’s Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
“Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.”
Some times people respond to attempted suppression (or perceived attempted suppression) of their Human Rights by espousing ideas which they don’t necessarily personally subscribe to but which are demonstrations of the extremity of what they believe is and should be permissible. It’s a way of enshrining their rights. “Hey look, I can say whatever I damned well please” is different to “the things I’m saying right now are things I truly believe.”
Good story.
Needs more Dinosaurs.
Speedy said:
btm said:
esselte said:6 inch is delightful. 9 inch is just plain scary.
Oh, wait… grinder, not Grindr
idgi
Grindr is an online dating site.
Obviously more than 3 people here knew the joke. And even I knew that one. The end is nigh when I get the jokes.
Rule 303 said:
esselte said:
Rule 303 said:
It’s much less subtle than that, I’m afraid. I’m talking about actual white supremacists applying maximum force about being restricted in what they’re allowed to say.
We do subscribe the the principal of freedom of expression. It’s Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
“Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.”
Some times people respond to attempted suppression (or perceived attempted suppression) of their Human Rights by espousing ideas which they don’t necessarily personally subscribe to but which are demonstrations of the extremity of what they believe is and should be permissible. It’s a way of enshrining their rights. “Hey look, I can say whatever I damned well please” is different to “the things I’m saying right now are things I truly believe.”
Good story.
Needs more Dinosaurs.
It’s awfully convenient for you that you can’t actually link to these comments so that others may scrutinize your interpretation of the things said. Good stories all round.
esselte said:
Rule 303 said:
esselte said:We do subscribe the the principal of freedom of expression. It’s Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
“Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.”
Some times people respond to attempted suppression (or perceived attempted suppression) of their Human Rights by espousing ideas which they don’t necessarily personally subscribe to but which are demonstrations of the extremity of what they believe is and should be permissible. It’s a way of enshrining their rights. “Hey look, I can say whatever I damned well please” is different to “the things I’m saying right now are things I truly believe.”
Good story.
Needs more Dinosaurs.
It’s awfully convenient for you that you can’t actually link to these comments so that others may scrutinize your interpretation of the things said. Good stories all round.
Get a room you two!
esselte said:
Rule 303 said:
esselte said:Thing is, racism means different things to different people.
These days, online, there’s a lot of people who think they are progressives who subscribe to an ideology derived (poorly) from a scoiological discipline known as Critical Theory.
People who misunderstand Critcal Theory and incorporate that misunderstanding in to their world-view will posit that all “white” people are racist, without exception, because they benefit systemically from post-Colonial advantages which are beneficial to the descendants of European colonists. They will tell you that racism= prejudice+power, and because white people have excessive power they are necessarily prejudiced, therefore racist.
Most other people think of racism in terms of the dictionary definition. And when these two groups meet, this inevitably leads to clashes. And these clashes can lead to people who are otherwise perfectly nice and not racist in any traditional sense of the word taking offence at being labelled racist and then verbalizing their displeasure in ways which seem extreme and come across particularly badly in written formats, which then feeds back in to the sense that the “progressives” have that anyone not as “progressive” as they are is some kind of bigoted, sexist, racist arsehole neo-Nazi white supremacist mofo.
I don’t know the specifics of the privilege, the stupidity, the arrogance, the entitlement, the expectation, the gormless dumbfuckery that you have seen, but I would urge you to consider it with a charitable view before dismissing the people you feel have exhibited those traits.
It’s much less subtle than that, I’m afraid. I’m talking about actual white supremacists applying maximum force about being restricted in what they’re allowed to say.
We do subscribe the the principal of freedom of expression. It’s Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
“Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.”
Some times people respond to attempted suppression (or perceived attempted suppression) of their Human Rights by espousing ideas which they don’t necessarily personally subscribe to but which are demonstrations of the extremity of what they believe is and should be permissible. It’s a way of enshrining their rights. “Hey look, I can say whatever I damned well please” is different to “the things I’m saying right now are things I truly believe.”
there is also the scope of limitations on freedom of expression when it involves defamation and fails to protect certain groups.
But then I remembered something and had to look it up, it wasn’t as I had first thought, but interesting all the same…
The Australian Constitution does not explicitly protect freedom of expression. However, the High Court has held that an implied freedom of political communication exists as an indispensible part of the system of representative and responsible government created by the Constitution. It operates as a freedom from government restraint, rather than a right conferred directly on individuals.
Witty Rejoinder said:
esselte said:
Rule 303 said:Good story.
Needs more Dinosaurs.
It’s awfully convenient for you that you can’t actually link to these comments so that others may scrutinize your interpretation of the things said. Good stories all round.
Get a room you two!
OK, but I’m gunna need beer.
Rule 303 said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
esselte said:It’s awfully convenient for you that you can’t actually link to these comments so that others may scrutinize your interpretation of the things said. Good stories all round.
Get a room you two!
OK, but I’m gunna need beer.
Fortunately, I have beer!
esselte said:
Rule 303 said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Get a room you two!
OK, but I’m gunna need beer.
Fortunately, I have beer!

Speedy said:
Upping the ante a littlehttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-13/australian-sentenced-to-death-in-china-for-drug-smuggling/12352374
I’m glad I’ve already seen the Terracotta Warriors and Great Wall. Not that it was all that safe back in 2012, but safer than it will be for tourists in the years to come.
Did you carry 7.5kg drugs in your luggage? I suspect that made it less safe.
JudgeMental said:
esselte said:
Rule 303 said:OK, but I’m gunna need beer.
Fortunately, I have beer!
How did you access my web cam like that?
Arts said:
esselte said:
Rule 303 said:It’s much less subtle than that, I’m afraid. I’m talking about actual white supremacists applying maximum force about being restricted in what they’re allowed to say.
We do subscribe the the principal of freedom of expression. It’s Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
“Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.”
Some times people respond to attempted suppression (or perceived attempted suppression) of their Human Rights by espousing ideas which they don’t necessarily personally subscribe to but which are demonstrations of the extremity of what they believe is and should be permissible. It’s a way of enshrining their rights. “Hey look, I can say whatever I damned well please” is different to “the things I’m saying right now are things I truly believe.”
there is also the scope of limitations on freedom of expression when it involves defamation and fails to protect certain groups.
But then I remembered something and had to look it up, it wasn’t as I had first thought, but interesting all the same…
The Australian Constitution does not explicitly protect freedom of expression. However, the High Court has held that an implied freedom of political communication exists as an indispensible part of the system of representative and responsible government created by the Constitution. It operates as a freedom from government restraint, rather than a right conferred directly on individuals.
But in no sense does it operate to allow freedom to vilify, nor to cause panic, fear, humiliation or promote hatred. It does not allow for the making of false, misleading, or slanderous statements. There are further laws that apply to expression across telecommunication devices.
As I set off a discussion last night that raged through the night and into today, should I try to think of something for you lot to discuss tonight?
buffy said:
Speedy said:
Upping the ante a littlehttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-13/australian-sentenced-to-death-in-china-for-drug-smuggling/12352374
I’m glad I’ve already seen the Terracotta Warriors and Great Wall. Not that it was all that safe back in 2012, but safer than it will be for tourists in the years to come.
Did you carry 7.5kg drugs in your luggage? I suspect that made it less safe.
All I am saying is that I would no longer feel safe travelling in China. Even back then I thought it safer than it actually was, almost getting run over by an army truck which apparently had right of way when pedestrians were crossing on a green walk symbol.
Rule 303 said:
Arts said:
esselte said:We do subscribe the the principal of freedom of expression. It’s Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
“Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.”
Some times people respond to attempted suppression (or perceived attempted suppression) of their Human Rights by espousing ideas which they don’t necessarily personally subscribe to but which are demonstrations of the extremity of what they believe is and should be permissible. It’s a way of enshrining their rights. “Hey look, I can say whatever I damned well please” is different to “the things I’m saying right now are things I truly believe.”
there is also the scope of limitations on freedom of expression when it involves defamation and fails to protect certain groups.
But then I remembered something and had to look it up, it wasn’t as I had first thought, but interesting all the same…
The Australian Constitution does not explicitly protect freedom of expression. However, the High Court has held that an implied freedom of political communication exists as an indispensible part of the system of representative and responsible government created by the Constitution. It operates as a freedom from government restraint, rather than a right conferred directly on individuals.
But in no sense does it operate to allow freedom to vilify, nor to cause panic, fear, humiliation or promote hatred. It does not allow for the making of false, misleading, or slanderous statements. There are further laws that apply to expression across telecommunication devices.
Forgot sedition. Pretty sure that’s still not allowed, either.
buffy said:
As I set off a discussion last night that raged through the night and into today, should I try to think of something for you lot to discuss tonight?
Rule 303 said:
Arts said:
esselte said:We do subscribe the the principal of freedom of expression. It’s Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
“Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.”
Some times people respond to attempted suppression (or perceived attempted suppression) of their Human Rights by espousing ideas which they don’t necessarily personally subscribe to but which are demonstrations of the extremity of what they believe is and should be permissible. It’s a way of enshrining their rights. “Hey look, I can say whatever I damned well please” is different to “the things I’m saying right now are things I truly believe.”
there is also the scope of limitations on freedom of expression when it involves defamation and fails to protect certain groups.
But then I remembered something and had to look it up, it wasn’t as I had first thought, but interesting all the same…
The Australian Constitution does not explicitly protect freedom of expression. However, the High Court has held that an implied freedom of political communication exists as an indispensible part of the system of representative and responsible government created by the Constitution. It operates as a freedom from government restraint, rather than a right conferred directly on individuals.
But in no sense does it operate to allow freedom to vilify, nor to cause panic, fear, humiliation or promote hatred. It does not allow for the making of false, misleading, or slanderous statements. There are further laws that apply to expression across telecommunication devices.
yes, that was my point.
Rule 303 said:
Arts said:
esselte said:We do subscribe the the principal of freedom of expression. It’s Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
“Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.”
Some times people respond to attempted suppression (or perceived attempted suppression) of their Human Rights by espousing ideas which they don’t necessarily personally subscribe to but which are demonstrations of the extremity of what they believe is and should be permissible. It’s a way of enshrining their rights. “Hey look, I can say whatever I damned well please” is different to “the things I’m saying right now are things I truly believe.”
there is also the scope of limitations on freedom of expression when it involves defamation and fails to protect certain groups.
But then I remembered something and had to look it up, it wasn’t as I had first thought, but interesting all the same…
The Australian Constitution does not explicitly protect freedom of expression. However, the High Court has held that an implied freedom of political communication exists as an indispensible part of the system of representative and responsible government created by the Constitution. It operates as a freedom from government restraint, rather than a right conferred directly on individuals.
But in no sense does it operate to allow freedom to vilify, nor to cause panic, fear, humiliation or promote hatred. It does not allow for the making of false, misleading, or slanderous statements. There are further laws that apply to expression across telecommunication devices.
It’s not law and it’s not a treaty, it’s just a deceleration of the highest principals of conduct. The Australian Constitution falls short, for sure. Maybe justifiably so… maybe people are not deserving… I can dig that.
“Now, Therefore THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY proclaims THIS UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS as a common standard of achievement for all peoples and all nations, to the end that every individual and every organ of society, keeping this Declaration constantly in mind, shall strive by teaching and education to promote respect for these rights and freedoms and by progressive measures, national and international, to secure their universal and effective recognition and observance, both among the peoples of Member States themselves and among the peoples of territories under their jurisdiction. “
Witty Rejoinder said:
buffy said:
As I set off a discussion last night that raged through the night and into today, should I try to think of something for you lot to discuss tonight?
Umm it was Bubblecar that instigated that discussion.
Nup, he started the thread after some sharpish words between him and me in Chat.
Arts said:
Rule 303 said:
Arts said:there is also the scope of limitations on freedom of expression when it involves defamation and fails to protect certain groups.
But then I remembered something and had to look it up, it wasn’t as I had first thought, but interesting all the same…
The Australian Constitution does not explicitly protect freedom of expression. However, the High Court has held that an implied freedom of political communication exists as an indispensible part of the system of representative and responsible government created by the Constitution. It operates as a freedom from government restraint, rather than a right conferred directly on individuals.
But in no sense does it operate to allow freedom to vilify, nor to cause panic, fear, humiliation or promote hatred. It does not allow for the making of false, misleading, or slanderous statements. There are further laws that apply to expression across telecommunication devices.
yes, that was my point.
Needed more detail.
Rule 303 said:
Arts said:
Rule 303 said:But in no sense does it operate to allow freedom to vilify, nor to cause panic, fear, humiliation or promote hatred. It does not allow for the making of false, misleading, or slanderous statements. There are further laws that apply to expression across telecommunication devices.
yes, that was my point.
Needed more detail.
next time please write up parameters and word count
esselte said:
Rule 303 said:
Arts said:there is also the scope of limitations on freedom of expression when it involves defamation and fails to protect certain groups.
But then I remembered something and had to look it up, it wasn’t as I had first thought, but interesting all the same…
The Australian Constitution does not explicitly protect freedom of expression. However, the High Court has held that an implied freedom of political communication exists as an indispensible part of the system of representative and responsible government created by the Constitution. It operates as a freedom from government restraint, rather than a right conferred directly on individuals.
But in no sense does it operate to allow freedom to vilify, nor to cause panic, fear, humiliation or promote hatred. It does not allow for the making of false, misleading, or slanderous statements. There are further laws that apply to expression across telecommunication devices.
It’s not law and it’s not a treaty, it’s just a deceleration of the highest principals of conduct. The Australian Constitution falls short, for sure. Maybe justifiably so… maybe people are not deserving… I can dig that.
“Now, Therefore THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY proclaims THIS UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS as a common standard of achievement for all peoples and all nations, to the end that every individual and every organ of society, keeping this Declaration constantly in mind, shall strive by teaching and education to promote respect for these rights and freedoms and by progressive measures, national and international, to secure their universal and effective recognition and observance, both among the peoples of Member States themselves and among the peoples of territories under their jurisdiction. “
There’s an easy way to find out whether it’s law or not – Try it on your local DPP.
Arts said:
Rule 303 said:
Arts said:yes, that was my point.
Needed more detail.
next time please write up parameters and word count
OK, but I’ll need beer.
Rule 303 said:
Arts said:
Rule 303 said:Needed more detail.
next time please write up parameters and word count
OK, but I’ll need beer.
Hey, I don’t run a chicken farm here you know!
there was a BLM march in Perth today… I did not go, not because I don’t think BLM but because I think covid is still a thing and also it was cold and raining…
If I did go though I would have made a kick arse sign.
Arts said:
there was a BLM march in Perth today… I did not go, not because I don’t think BLM but because I think covid is still a thing and also it was cold and raining…If I did go though I would have made a kick arse sign.
Do tell…
Arts said:
there was a BLM march in Perth today… I did not go, not because I don’t think BLM but because I think covid is still a thing and also it was cold and raining…If I did go though I would have made a kick arse sign.
I’m thinking “BLM, Bitches!”
probably something like
“I should be at home binge drinking and watching Netflix but instead I have to be mad at racists.”
Arts said:
probably something like“I should be at home binge drinking and watching Netflix but instead I have to be mad at racists.”
Have you got a large enough sheet of cardboard for that?
party_pants said:
Arts said:
probably something like“I should be at home binge drinking and watching Netflix but instead I have to be mad at racists.”
Have you got a large enough sheet of cardboard for that?
what are you? the sign police?
Arts said:
probably something like“I should be at home binge drinking and watching Netflix but instead I have to be mad at racists.”
Decent.
there were a lot of people there.
Arts said:
party_pants said:
Arts said:
probably something like“I should be at home binge drinking and watching Netflix but instead I have to be mad at racists.”
Have you got a large enough sheet of cardboard for that?
what are you? the sign police?
I’d like to be able to read the sign whilst maintaining the Covid-appropriate distancing. Bear in mind my eyesight isn’t great. A certain minimum font size applies. Otherwise I’d have to just ignore your sign as “meh – can’t read it”.
party_pants said:
Arts said:
party_pants said:Have you got a large enough sheet of cardboard for that?
what are you? the sign police?
I’d like to be able to read the sign whilst maintaining the Covid-appropriate distancing. Bear in mind my eyesight isn’t great. A certain minimum font size applies. Otherwise I’d have to just ignore your sign as “meh – can’t read it”.
I’d do a sign in old english or gothic with caps lock on.
JudgeMental said:
party_pants said:
Arts said:what are you? the sign police?
I’d like to be able to read the sign whilst maintaining the Covid-appropriate distancing. Bear in mind my eyesight isn’t great. A certain minimum font size applies. Otherwise I’d have to just ignore your sign as “meh – can’t read it”.
I’d do a sign in old english or gothic with caps lock on.
or comic sans.
Arts said:
there were a lot of people there.
How much are the right whingers stacking on about the protests?!!
Same people who were stacking on about the ‘Climate Strike’ protests, I can’t help but notice….
‘sif there was ever a protest that didn’t involve some level of risk.
JudgeMental said:
JudgeMental said:
party_pants said:I’d like to be able to read the sign whilst maintaining the Covid-appropriate distancing. Bear in mind my eyesight isn’t great. A certain minimum font size applies. Otherwise I’d have to just ignore your sign as “meh – can’t read it”.
I’d do a sign in old english or gothic with caps lock on.
or comic sans.
You wouldn’t be allowed to join with that.
JudgeMental said:
JudgeMental said:
party_pants said:I’d like to be able to read the sign whilst maintaining the Covid-appropriate distancing. Bear in mind my eyesight isn’t great. A certain minimum font size applies. Otherwise I’d have to just ignore your sign as “meh – can’t read it”.
I’d do a sign in old english or gothic with caps lock on.
or comic sans.
That’s a more ‘confirming the existence of the Higgs Boson’ sort of font.
JudgeMental said:
JudgeMental said:
party_pants said:I’d like to be able to read the sign whilst maintaining the Covid-appropriate distancing. Bear in mind my eyesight isn’t great. A certain minimum font size applies. Otherwise I’d have to just ignore your sign as “meh – can’t read it”.
I’d do a sign in old english or gothic with caps lock on.
or comic sans.
You’re a monster!
JudgeMental said:
JudgeMental said:
party_pants said:I’d like to be able to read the sign whilst maintaining the Covid-appropriate distancing. Bear in mind my eyesight isn’t great. A certain minimum font size applies. Otherwise I’d have to just ignore your sign as “meh – can’t read it”.
I’d do a sign in old english or gothic with caps lock on.
or comic sans.
Jesus fuck he’s mad enough at the world as it is.
party_pants said:
JudgeMental said:
JudgeMental said:I’d do a sign in old english or gothic with caps lock on.
or comic sans.
You wouldn’t be allowed to join with that.
I’d just hold my own protest. I’d be the outlier.
Rule 303 said:
Arts said:
there were a lot of people there.
How much are the right whingers stacking on about the protests?!!
Same people who were stacking on about the ‘Climate Strike’ protests, I can’t help but notice….
‘sif there was ever a protest that didn’t involve some level of risk.
I dunno…I was just looking at photos.
JudgeMental said:
party_pants said:
JudgeMental said:or comic sans.
You wouldn’t be allowed to join with that.
I’d just hold my own protest. I’d be the outlier.
“Hey Johnny, what are you rebelling against?”
JudgeMental said:
Rule 303 said:
JudgeMental said:what FB is this? I would like a read.
It’s been removed as it happened, mate.
There’s another thing the slow learner group don’t seem to grok – Admins and mods can see everything and do anything on the page. It’s not a democracy. In fact, it’s dangerously autocratic.
Yeah. I tell the arguers that on this page , sssf fb, i am god.
One particularly good reason that I would never, never join. I hate cults.
sibeen said:
JudgeMental said:
Rule 303 said:It’s been removed as it happened, mate.
There’s another thing the slow learner group don’t seem to grok – Admins and mods can see everything and do anything on the page. It’s not a democracy. In fact, it’s dangerously autocratic.
Yeah. I tell the arguers that on this page , sssf fb, i am god.
One particularly good reason that I would never, never join. I hate cults.
There you go – Bringing the working classes into it again!
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:
JudgeMental said:Yeah. I tell the arguers that on this page , sssf fb, i am god.
One particularly good reason that I would never, never join. I hate cults.
There you go – Bringing the working classes into it again!
blinks
_Reads again. _
I really have nfi how you get from one to the other.
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:One particularly good reason that I would never, never join. I hate cults.
There you go – Bringing the working classes into it again!
blinks
_Reads again. _
I really have nfi how you get from one to the other.
Python.
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:There you go – Bringing the working classes into it again!
blinks
_Reads again. _
I really have nfi how you get from one to the other.
Python.
I do realise that Python is the answer to many of the world’s ills but I must confess that this reference does escape me.
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:blinks
_Reads again. _
I really have nfi how you get from one to the other.
Python.
I do realise that Python is the answer to many of the world’s ills but I must confess that this reference does escape me.
You’re thinking of bicycles. Bicycles are the solution to most of the world’s ills. This solution, however, is:
Arthur: Well we all are! We are all Britons! And I am your king.
Woman: I didn’t know we ‘ad a king! I thought we were autonomous collective.
Man: (mad) You’re fooling yourself! We’re living in a dictatorship! A self-perpetuating autocracy in which the working classes—
Woman: There you go, bringing class into it again…
Is this a cheese shop?
Bubblecar said:
Is this a cheese shop?
No, sir.
Alexei Sayle: Well that’s that sketch knackered then isn’t it?
dv said:
Bubblecar said:
Is this a cheese shop?
No, sir.
Alexei Sayle: Well that’s that sketch knackered then isn’t it?
Ha, that’s exactly the one I was thinking of.
dv said:
Bubblecar said:
Is this a cheese shop?
No, sir.
Alexei Sayle: Well that’s that sketch knackered then isn’t it?
Sayle’s was always shit at humour and if it wasn’t for the Young Ones no-one out side of a small part of the British Isles would ever have heard of the wanker.

sibeen said:
dv said:
Bubblecar said:
Is this a cheese shop?
No, sir.
Alexei Sayle: Well that’s that sketch knackered then isn’t it?
Sayle’s was always shit at humour and if it wasn’t for the Young Ones no-one out side of a small part of the British Isles would ever have heard of the wanker.
Rolls-Royce Phantom two. 4.3 litre, 30 horsepower, six cylinder engine, with Stromberg downdraft carburetor, can go from zero to 100 kilometres an hour in 12.5 seconds. And I even like the color.
sibeen said:
dv said:
Bubblecar said:
Is this a cheese shop?
No, sir.
Alexei Sayle: Well that’s that sketch knackered then isn’t it?
Sayle’s was always shit at humour and if it wasn’t for the Young Ones no-one out side of a small part of the British Isles would ever have heard of the wanker.
Rubbbbbbbish, he was always good for a grin.
furious said:
sibeen said:
dv said:No, sir.
Alexei Sayle: Well that’s that sketch knackered then isn’t it?
Sayle’s was always shit at humour and if it wasn’t for the Young Ones no-one out side of a small part of the British Isles would ever have heard of the wanker.
Rolls-Royce Phantom two. 4.3 litre, 30 horsepower, six cylinder engine, with Stromberg downdraft carburetor, can go from zero to 100 kilometres an hour in 12.5 seconds. And I even like the color.
Didn’t you kill my brother?
A high point of humour. I was laughing for weeks. Literally busted a gut.
Bubblecar said:
sibeen said:
dv said:No, sir.
Alexei Sayle: Well that’s that sketch knackered then isn’t it?
Sayle’s was always shit at humour and if it wasn’t for the Young Ones no-one out side of a small part of the British Isles would ever have heard of the wanker.
Rubbbbbbbish, he was always good for a grin.
Watch the first sketch of this episode and I defy you to not emit at least one reluctant chuckle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aglun7Xrgw
sibeen said:
furious said:
sibeen said:Sayle’s was always shit at humour and if it wasn’t for the Young Ones no-one out side of a small part of the British Isles would ever have heard of the wanker.
Rolls-Royce Phantom two. 4.3 litre, 30 horsepower, six cylinder engine, with Stromberg downdraft carburetor, can go from zero to 100 kilometres an hour in 12.5 seconds. And I even like the color.
Didn’t you kill my brother?
A high point of humour. I was laughing for weeks. Literally busted a gut.
It’s alright for you to say things will get better – You haven’t lost your brand new sweater.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
sibeen said:Sayle’s was always shit at humour and if it wasn’t for the Young Ones no-one out side of a small part of the British Isles would ever have heard of the wanker.
Rubbbbbbbish, he was always good for a grin.
Watch the first sketch of this episode and I defy you to not emit at least one reluctant chuckle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aglun7Xrgw
I watched it when it was first brought out. I won’t put myself through the tedium again.
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:Rubbbbbbbish, he was always good for a grin.
Watch the first sketch of this episode and I defy you to not emit at least one reluctant chuckle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aglun7Xrgw
I watched it when it was first brought out. I won’t put myself through the tedium again.
Do you find anything funny?
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:Rubbbbbbbish, he was always good for a grin.
Watch the first sketch of this episode and I defy you to not emit at least one reluctant chuckle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aglun7Xrgw
I watched it when it was first brought out. I won’t put myself through the tedium again.
OK, I did put myself through at least a few minutes. It hasn’t aged well and I thought it was merde right from the start.
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:Watch the first sketch of this episode and I defy you to not emit at least one reluctant chuckle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aglun7Xrgw
I watched it when it was first brought out. I won’t put myself through the tedium again.
Do you find anything funny?
The baggage retrieval system at Heathrow.
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:blinks
_Reads again. _
I really have nfi how you get from one to the other.
Python.
I do realise that Python is the answer to many of the world’s ills but I must confess that this reference does escape me.
Ya don’t vote for kings!
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:Watch the first sketch of this episode and I defy you to not emit at least one reluctant chuckle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aglun7Xrgw
I watched it when it was first brought out. I won’t put myself through the tedium again.
Do you find anything funny?
Serious answer.
I didn’t mind the Young Ones when it was out, but even then as a pimply faced youth of about 19 I found the Alexei parts to be a good time to go to the toilet.
sibeen said:
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:Watch the first sketch of this episode and I defy you to not emit at least one reluctant chuckle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aglun7Xrgw
I watched it when it was first brought out. I won’t put myself through the tedium again.
OK, I did put myself through at least a few minutes. It hasn’t aged well and I thought it was merde right from the start.
That’s ingrained intractable prejudice at work there.
sibeen said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:I watched it when it was first brought out. I won’t put myself through the tedium again.
Do you find anything funny?
Serious answer.
I didn’t mind the Young Ones when it was out, but even then as a pimply faced youth of about 19 I found the Alexei parts to be a good time to go to the toilet.
Well, if you were in the toilet how do you know if they were any good or not?
Bubblecar said:
sibeen said:
sibeen said:I watched it when it was first brought out. I won’t put myself through the tedium again.
OK, I did put myself through at least a few minutes. It hasn’t aged well and I thought it was merde right from the start.
That’s ingrained intractable prejudice at work there.
You are an incorrigible Irish drunkard I’m afraid Sibeen. He’s got you there.
sibeen said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:I watched it when it was first brought out. I won’t put myself through the tedium again.
Do you find anything funny?
Serious answer.
I didn’t mind the Young Ones when it was out, but even then as a pimply faced youth of about 19 I found the Alexei parts to be a good time to go to the toilet.
+1. I have the DVD box set somewhere, always hit the FF during his segments.
I like the Madness musical interludes though. Still can’t work out how such a non heavy-metal band got such a reputation for bad crowds and violence.
sibeen said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:I watched it when it was first brought out. I won’t put myself through the tedium again.
Do you find anything funny?
Serious answer.
I didn’t mind the Young Ones when it was out, but even then as a pimply faced youth of about 19 I found the Alexei parts to be a good time to go to the toilet.
How about the Goodies when you were a wee lad?
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Do you find anything funny?
Serious answer.
I didn’t mind the Young Ones when it was out, but even then as a pimply faced youth of about 19 I found the Alexei parts to be a good time to go to the toilet.
How about the Goodies when you were a wee lad?
They had black face, and Rolf Harris face, all goodies episodes have been expunged …
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Do you find anything funny?
Serious answer.
I didn’t mind the Young Ones when it was out, but even then as a pimply faced youth of about 19 I found the Alexei parts to be a good time to go to the toilet.
How about the Goodies when you were a wee lad?
Yep, was definitely a fan. I must admit that a re-watch isn’t that great.
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Do you find anything funny?
Serious answer.
I didn’t mind the Young Ones when it was out, but even then as a pimply faced youth of about 19 I found the Alexei parts to be a good time to go to the toilet.
+1. I have the DVD box set somewhere, always hit the FF during his segments.
I like the Madness musical interludes though. Still can’t work out how such a non heavy-metal band got such a reputation for bad crowds and violence.
Box set? There were 12 episodes,not much of a box. Madness was on twice, I didn’t mind them but my favourite was Motorhead…
Witty Rejoinder said:
Bubblecar said:
sibeen said:OK, I did put myself through at least a few minutes. It hasn’t aged well and I thought it was merde right from the start.
That’s ingrained intractable prejudice at work there.
You are an incorrigible Irish drunkard I’m afraid Sibeen. He’s got you there.
Nah, you saw one bit and you just knew the rest was cringeworthy.
As to what I find funny…Black Books. Now that is grouse.
M.A.S.H. The pinnacle of American humour.
sibeen said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Bubblecar said:That’s ingrained intractable prejudice at work there.
You are an incorrigible Irish drunkard I’m afraid Sibeen. He’s got you there.
Nah, you saw one bit and you just knew the rest was cringeworthy.
As to what I find funny…Black Books. Now that is grouse.
M.A.S.H. The pinnacle of American humour.
‘Black Books’ is good. Hate ‘M.A.S.H’ with a fiery vengeance from the gates of hell.
Fancy that, a show about an incorrigible Irish drunkard…
furious said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:Serious answer.
I didn’t mind the Young Ones when it was out, but even then as a pimply faced youth of about 19 I found the Alexei parts to be a good time to go to the toilet.
+1. I have the DVD box set somewhere, always hit the FF during his segments.
I like the Madness musical interludes though. Still can’t work out how such a non heavy-metal band got such a reputation for bad crowds and violence.
Box set? There were 12 episodes,not much of a box. Madness was on twice, I didn’t mind them but my favourite was Motorhead…
OK, 2 DVDs which were wrapped in plastic as sold as a set. Not boxed, as such.
furious said:
- As to what I find funny…Black Books. Now that is grouse.
Fancy that, a show about an incorrigible Irish drunkard…
Bernard was my younger, stabler, brother. Bit of a do gooder to tell the truth.
party_pants said:
furious said:
party_pants said:+1. I have the DVD box set somewhere, always hit the FF during his segments.
I like the Madness musical interludes though. Still can’t work out how such a non heavy-metal band got such a reputation for bad crowds and violence.
Box set? There were 12 episodes,not much of a box. Madness was on twice, I didn’t mind them but my favourite was Motorhead…
OK, 2 DVDs which were wrapped in plastic as sold as a set. Not boxed, as such.
But you would still wish that the Alexei bit were expunged from, just so they didn’t feel so sullied.
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:
Witty Rejoinder said:You are an incorrigible Irish drunkard I’m afraid Sibeen. He’s got you there.
Nah, you saw one bit and you just knew the rest was cringeworthy.
As to what I find funny…Black Books. Now that is grouse.
M.A.S.H. The pinnacle of American humour.
‘Black Books’ is good. Hate ‘M.A.S.H’ with a fiery vengeance from the gates of hell.
Still like M.A.S.H. It could mix humour with pathos in a way that not many shows have ever pulled off.
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
furious said:Box set? There were 12 episodes,not much of a box. Madness was on twice, I didn’t mind them but my favourite was Motorhead…
OK, 2 DVDs which were wrapped in plastic as sold as a set. Not boxed, as such.
But you would still wish that the Alexei bit were expunged from, just so they didn’t feel so sullied.
Yes. Haven’t watched them for ages, but I would still skip his parts. except there was one where he is part of the story where he drinks the potion and becomes a homicidal axe-wielding maniac.
sibeen said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:Nah, you saw one bit and you just knew the rest was cringeworthy.
As to what I find funny…Black Books. Now that is grouse.
M.A.S.H. The pinnacle of American humour.
‘Black Books’ is good. Hate ‘M.A.S.H’ with a fiery vengeance from the gates of hell.
Still like M.A.S.H. It could mix humour with pathos in a way that not many shows have ever pulled off.
vomit
It takes itself so seriously. Humour in a war-zone; how maudlin. Oh fey…
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:OK, 2 DVDs which were wrapped in plastic as sold as a set. Not boxed, as such.
But you would still wish that the Alexei bit were expunged from, just so they didn’t feel so sullied.
Yes. Haven’t watched them for ages, but I would still skip his parts. except there was one where he is part of the story where he drinks the potion and becomes a homicidal axe-wielding maniac.
It was basically a cure…
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:
Witty Rejoinder said:‘Black Books’ is good. Hate ‘M.A.S.H’ with a fiery vengeance from the gates of hell.
Still like M.A.S.H. It could mix humour with pathos in a way that not many shows have ever pulled off.
vomit
It takes itself so seriously. Humour in a war-zone; how maudlin. Oh fey…
It wasnt a chicken! It was a baby!
furious said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:Still like M.A.S.H. It could mix humour with pathos in a way that not many shows have ever pulled off.
vomit
It takes itself so seriously. Humour in a war-zone; how maudlin. Oh fey…
It wasnt a chicken! It was a baby!
Yeah, that was so twee. It was almost as if the show was anti-war. Jaysus.
furious said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:Still like M.A.S.H. It could mix humour with pathos in a way that not many shows have ever pulled off.
vomit
It takes itself so seriously. Humour in a war-zone; how maudlin. Oh fey…
It wasnt a chicken! It was a baby!
I’ve only seen about 5 episodes of ‘MA.S.H’ so I don’t know any lines from it I’m afraid.
Witty Rejoinder said:
furious said:
Witty Rejoinder said:vomit
It takes itself so seriously. Humour in a war-zone; how maudlin. Oh fey…
It wasnt a chicken! It was a baby!
I’ve only seen about 5 episodes of ‘MA.S.H’ so I don’t know any lines from it I’m afraid.
That wasn’t a direct quote, more a bookend spoiler…
sibeen said:
furious said:
Witty Rejoinder said:vomit
It takes itself so seriously. Humour in a war-zone; how maudlin. Oh fey…
It wasnt a chicken! It was a baby!
Yeah, that was so twee. It was almost as if the show was anti-war. Jaysus.
The jolly old time had by all as they sent innumerable dead bodies back stateside didn’t leave me with that impression.
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:
furious said:It wasnt a chicken! It was a baby!
Yeah, that was so twee. It was almost as if the show was anti-war. Jaysus.
The jolly old time had by all as they sent innumerable dead bodies back stateside didn’t leave me with that impression.
For the last four years of the show I was actually a soldier and I certainly saw it as completely anti-war. Then again, the vast, vast, majority of soldiers that I knew during the time I spent wearing funny dress ups were also very anti-war.
sibeen said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:Yeah, that was so twee. It was almost as if the show was anti-war. Jaysus.
The jolly old time had by all as they sent innumerable dead bodies back stateside didn’t leave me with that impression.
For the last four years of the show I was actually a soldier and I certainly saw it as completely anti-war. Then again, the vast, vast, majority of soldiers that I knew during the time I spent wearing funny dress ups were also very anti-war.
I’m not saying it didn’t intend to be anti-war. Just that it didn’t succeed in doing so.
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:
Witty Rejoinder said:The jolly old time had by all as they sent innumerable dead bodies back stateside didn’t leave me with that impression.
For the last four years of the show I was actually a soldier and I certainly saw it as completely anti-war. Then again, the vast, vast, majority of soldiers that I knew during the time I spent wearing funny dress ups were also very anti-war.
I’m not saying it didn’t intend to be anti-war. Just that it didn’t succeed in doing so.
I thought it was. You, by your own admission, watched less than 2% of the shows.
There ya go, we may have a first; people have disagreed on the Holiday Forum.
We should order some drinks and fireworks.
:)
sibeen said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:Yeah, that was so twee. It was almost as if the show was anti-war. Jaysus.
The jolly old time had by all as they sent innumerable dead bodies back stateside didn’t leave me with that impression.
For the last four years of the show I was actually a soldier and I certainly saw it as completely anti-war. Then again, the vast, vast, majority of soldiers that I knew during the time I spent wearing funny dress ups were also very anti-war.
Very sensible in their shoes.
nice apple that was, really nice, totally enjoyed it, gave a me a happy tummy, that’s the message I got from tummy brain
TRUMP: I think I’ve done more for the black community than any other president. And let’s take a pass on Abraham Lincoln, because he did good. Although it’s always questionable, you know, in other words, the end result.
HARRIS: Well, we are free, Mr. President. He did pretty well.
TRUMP: We are free. Well, you understand what I mean? You know, I got to take a pass on a Honest Abe, as we call it.
Fingers crossed. I’m getting fed up with spam on my email that i can’t avoid. I’ve been using Firefox to view iinet email and it doesn’t have any spam filters.
So just installing Mozilla Thunderbird. Now it’s frozen for ten minutes already on the “checking password” installation step.
Fingers crossed. I’m getting fed up with spam on my email that i can’t avoid. I’ve been using Firefox to view iinet email and it doesn’t have any spam filters.
So just installing Mozilla Thunderbird. Now it’s frozen for ten minutes already on the “checking password” installation step.
Oh shit. “Thunderbird failed to find the setting for your email account”. Had that problem once before, five years ago, with another email program.
What’s so startling about the following apod image is that it was captured by an amateur astronomer. Full size at https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/2006/ThorsHelmet.jpg
That said, the image is a composite from three telescopes, the largest of which is 400 mm in diameter, see below, a bit large for most amateurs but not out of reach of some amateurs. This amateur does sell telescope time.

Morning Pilgrims, a bit of a wet start to Sunday Morning.
sibeen said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:Nah, you saw one bit and you just knew the rest was cringeworthy.
As to what I find funny…Black Books. Now that is grouse.
M.A.S.H. The pinnacle of American humour.
‘Black Books’ is good. Hate ‘M.A.S.H’ with a fiery vengeance from the gates of hell.
Still like M.A.S.H. It could mix humour with pathos in a way that not many shows have ever pulled off.
The original MASH movie was good.
It managed to convey the atmosphere that the Korean War was ‘the war-surplus war’ (which is how people who were there described it) and it was more about a group of people who didn’t want to be there trying to make the best of the situation in which they found themselves. It was about how they used pranks to relieve their tension, how they reacted to things they didn’t like, and how they tried to defy some of the absurdities of ‘the organisation’.
There was pathos in there, and sadness, and it dwelt too long on some things (e.g. the football game). But, it was a good picture.
PermeateFree said:
sibeen said:
Witty Rejoinder said:The jolly old time had by all as they sent innumerable dead bodies back stateside didn’t leave me with that impression.
For the last four years of the show I was actually a soldier and I certainly saw it as completely anti-war. Then again, the vast, vast, majority of soldiers that I knew during the time I spent wearing funny dress ups were also very anti-war.
Very sensible in their shoes.
Yes, it’s funny how a lot of the people who are likely to be the first into battle aren’t all that keen on wars. :)
dv said:
TRUMP: I think I’ve done more for the black community than any other president. And let’s take a pass on Abraham Lincoln, because he did good. Although it’s always questionable, you know, in other words, the end result.
HARRIS: Well, we are free, Mr. President. He did pretty well.
TRUMP: We are free. Well, you understand what I mean? You know, I got to take a pass on a Honest Abe, as we call it.
I wish she’d asked him to list some of his achievements for the black community. That would have thrown him completely.
I like MASH. The show wasn’t the same after Radar left though.
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 5 degrees, forecast is for 13 and showers. The overnight “rain” might have amounted to 1 to 2 mm if we were lucky.
mollwollfumble said:
Fingers crossed. I’m getting fed up with spam on my email that i can’t avoid. I’ve been using Firefox to view iinet email and it doesn’t have any spam filters.So just installing Mozilla Thunderbird. Now it’s frozen for ten minutes already on the “checking password” installation step.
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning Pilgrims, a bit of a wet start to Sunday Morning.
There seems to have been some significant precipitation here too. It must have happened whilst I was asleep. I’ll check the ORB (Official Rain Bucket) when I have my – you guessed it:
C…o…f…f…e…e…
Good morning everyone.
It’s 19.6°C, 99%RH, (fogged up windows as well) and scattered light high cloud with a light air here. BoM reckons we’ll top out at 24°C and that there’s a good to high chance of rain all day.
More work on the bamboo-splitting tool today. Hopefully I’ll get it finished and tested today.
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning Pilgrims, a bit of a wet start to Sunday Morning.
There seems to have been some significant precipitation here too. It must have happened whilst I was asleep. I’ll check the ORB (Official Rain Bucket) when I have my – you guessed it:
C…o…f…f…e…e…
Good morning everyone.
It’s 19.6°C, 99%RH, (fogged up windows as well) and scattered light high cloud with a light air here. BoM reckons we’ll top out at 24°C and that there’s a good to high chance of rain all day.
More work on the bamboo-splitting tool today. Hopefully I’ll get it finished and tested today.
Tamb said:
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning Pilgrims, a bit of a wet start to Sunday Morning.
There seems to have been some significant precipitation here too. It must have happened whilst I was asleep. I’ll check the ORB (Official Rain Bucket) when I have my – you guessed it:
C…o…f…f…e…e…
Good morning everyone.
It’s 19.6°C, 99%RH, (fogged up windows as well) and scattered light high cloud with a light air here. BoM reckons we’ll top out at 24°C and that there’s a good to high chance of rain all day.
More work on the bamboo-splitting tool today. Hopefully I’ll get it finished and tested today.
Ticks are still too numerous to risk much outside work.
I haven’t had one tick since I moved to Rainbow Beach. I suspect there are none here.
Ticks really go for me and can make me ill quite quickly. On one job, I was nicknamed “Tick Magnet” because I got so many on me.
Divine Angel said:
I like MASH. The show wasn’t the same after Radar left though.
Cheers was the best US comedy IMO.
MASH was good.
It’s bucketing down at the Redoubt, hope I can get out later today.
Peak Warming Man said:
It’s bucketing down at the Redoubt, hope I can get out later today.
Do you need to get out, or can you wait until the gullies and rivers go down a bit?
ORB had 22 mm in it. No need for garden watering today…
Peak Warming Man said:
Divine Angel said:
I like MASH. The show wasn’t the same after Radar left though.
Cheers was the best US comedy IMO.
MASH was good.
I don’t like much American comedy. But I did like “Soap”. Enough to buy the discs a few years ago. It’s aged a bit, but still funny.
When I was mowing yesterday I noticed some mushrooms coming up, so I’ve not mowed over them. I’m taking a series of photos. Here is yesterday PM.
And this morning:
Not a lot of growing yet, although subjectively I think they do look bigger. I should have measured diameter, I suppose.
buffy said:
When I was mowing yesterday I noticed some mushrooms coming up, so I’ve not mowed over them. I’m taking a series of photos. Here is yesterday PM.
And this morning:
Not a lot of growing yet, although subjectively I think they do look bigger. I should have measured diameter, I suppose.
:)
“Australians used humerous language to deal with the effects of the Great Depression.(Supplied: State Library Of Western Australia)”
Is that the funny bone, Auntie?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-14/miley-cyrus-coronavirus-covid19-cockney-rhyming-slang/12324930
dv said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Do you find anything funny?
Serious answer.
I didn’t mind the Young Ones when it was out, but even then as a pimply faced youth of about 19 I found the Alexei parts to be a good time to go to the toilet.
+1. I have the DVD box set somewhere, always hit the FF during his segments.
I like the Madness musical interludes though. Still can’t work out how such a non heavy-metal band got such a reputation for bad crowds and violence.
skinheads like them.
You getting some rain Woodie?
Peak Warming Man said:
You getting some rain Woodie?
Rain,we have, yes.
Peak Warming Man said:
You getting some rain Woodie?
As we speak, Mr Man. As we speak. Is there no doubt at the redoubt?
Woodie said:
Peak Warming Man said:
You getting some rain Woodie?
As we speak, Mr Man. As we speak. Is there no doubt at the redoubt?
It’s hammering, I doubt I’ll get out.
I have food and two stubbies.
dv said:
What am I missing?
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:
What am I missing?
Tamb said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:
What am I missing?
Rotate the pic.
Still at a loss…
dv said:
I didn’t get it until after rotation either.
With rotation, it was indeed head messing.
Okay I see it now.
Ian said:
https://chaser.com.au/general-news/man-spends-entire-camping-trip-trying-to-get-phone-reception/#popular
That’s totally believable.
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
I didn’t get it until after rotation either.
With rotation, it was indeed head messing.
You mean where its nose turned into its ear?
Tamb said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
I didn’t get it until after rotation either.
With rotation, it was indeed head messing.
You mean where its nose turned into its ear?
Yeah.
You didn’t find that head messing?
The Rev Dodgson said:
Tamb said:
The Rev Dodgson said:I didn’t get it until after rotation either.
With rotation, it was indeed head messing.
You mean where its nose turned into its ear?
Yeah.
You didn’t find that head messing?

And it’s still bucketing.
Peak Warming Man said:
And it’s still bucketing.
administers CPR to the forum
Witty Rejoinder said:
administers CPR to the forum
You may have left it too long. Brain death is only a few minutes…
Peak Warming Man said:
I also enjoy Cheers.
Divine Angel said:
I like MASH. The show wasn’t the same after Radar left though.
Cheers was the best US comedy IMO.
MASH was good.
Bamboo-splitting tool all stuck together now. I tested it tentatively before welding the final four pieces on. Seemed to work OK. I’ll do a proper test when it’s cooled down. Now I must go clean up the welding area before rain starts happening.
Michael V said:
Bamboo-splitting tool all stuck together now. I tested it tentatively before welding the final four pieces on. Seemed to work OK. I’ll do a proper test when it’s cooled down. Now I must go clean up the welding area before rain starts happening.
I came in late on this one.
Why are you splitting bamboo, MV?
buffy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
administers CPR to the forum
You may have left it too long. Brain death is only a few minutes…
It seems that SSSF brains have an above average brain death time.
The Great Pyramid and its shadow.
Yesterday Mr Mutant and I found a track through the bushland. Leads from the bike path near our house to the back of the Catholic school. Who knew??
Anyway this is the setting sun through the mangroves.
Divine Angel said:
Yesterday Mr Mutant and I found a track through the bushland. Leads from the bike path near our house to the back of the Catholic school. Who knew??Anyway this is the setting sun through the mangroves.
Mangroves?
Divine Angel said:
Yesterday Mr Mutant and I found a track through the bushland. Leads from the bike path near our house to the back of the Catholic school. Who knew??Anyway this is the setting sun through the mangroves.
A lovely pic.
But, for reasons i won’t elaborate on, it gives me the willies.
Reading a piece about cafes etc collecting names and contact numbers.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-14/covid-confusion-as-cafes-warned-about-privacy-dangers/12351314
I looked up the Victorian guidelines and it reads as if name and number are only required for dine in. Which would make sense as we’ve spent the last 3 months getting takeaway without any requirements for name and number. That piece seems to be Queensland based. In it it says:
>>The OAIC said ID checks were not required, unless ordered by the chief health officer.<<
I reckon a pseudonym and fake number is going to happen. A lot.
buffy said:
Reading a piece about cafes etc collecting names and contact numbers.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-14/covid-confusion-as-cafes-warned-about-privacy-dangers/12351314
I looked up the Victorian guidelines and it reads as if name and number are only required for dine in. Which would make sense as we’ve spent the last 3 months getting takeaway without any requirements for name and number. That piece seems to be Queensland based. In it it says:
>>The OAIC said ID checks were not required, unless ordered by the chief health officer.<<
I reckon a pseudonym and fake number is going to happen. A lot.
Paranoid people never make much sense.
Witty Rejoinder said:
buffy said:
Reading a piece about cafes etc collecting names and contact numbers.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-14/covid-confusion-as-cafes-warned-about-privacy-dangers/12351314
I looked up the Victorian guidelines and it reads as if name and number are only required for dine in. Which would make sense as we’ve spent the last 3 months getting takeaway without any requirements for name and number. That piece seems to be Queensland based. In it it says:
>>The OAIC said ID checks were not required, unless ordered by the chief health officer.<<
I reckon a pseudonym and fake number is going to happen. A lot.
Paranoid people never make much sense.
Actually the most interesting thing I noticed about that piece was that pen and paper seem to be the way most places are doing it. I didn’t expect that.
sibeen said:
Peak Warming Man said:I also enjoy Cheers.
Divine Angel said:
I like MASH. The show wasn’t the same after Radar left though.
Cheers was the best US comedy IMO.
MASH was good.
good grief.
Witty Rejoinder said:
buffy said:
Reading a piece about cafes etc collecting names and contact numbers.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-14/covid-confusion-as-cafes-warned-about-privacy-dangers/12351314
I looked up the Victorian guidelines and it reads as if name and number are only required for dine in. Which would make sense as we’ve spent the last 3 months getting takeaway without any requirements for name and number. That piece seems to be Queensland based. In it it says:
>>The OAIC said ID checks were not required, unless ordered by the chief health officer.<<
I reckon a pseudonym and fake number is going to happen. A lot.
Paranoid people never make much sense.
I can be lucid on my good days,
Oh, and this bit:
>>To the north however, Gaye Williams, from The Shop cafe in Coolum, said Queensland Health had visited her business and told her the book she was using was an “invasion of privacy”.
“We did have a book and had it ruled up. We thought that was a great thing to do,” she said.
“Now we put their name and address on the back of the order and we put the details in a brown paper bag.”<<
Fabulous to be the contact tracer who gets a brown paper bag of orders and has to go through them (presumably only for a particular day, I would think there would be a new paper bag each day). If the place was a busy food outlet, that could be quite a big bag.
buffy said:
Reading a piece about cafes etc collecting names and contact numbers.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-14/covid-confusion-as-cafes-warned-about-privacy-dangers/12351314
I looked up the Victorian guidelines and it reads as if name and number are only required for dine in. Which would make sense as we’ve spent the last 3 months getting takeaway without any requirements for name and number. That piece seems to be Queensland based. In it it says:
>>The OAIC said ID checks were not required, unless ordered by the chief health officer.<<
I reckon a pseudonym and fake number is going to happen. A lot.
In the days of NSW pubs being open on Sundays only to ‘bona fide travellers’, you had to sign the ‘guest book’ with your name and address to show that you’d travelled at least 50 kms to be there.
You’d go to the pub on Sunday afternoon, see all your neighbours and acquaintances there, and (oddly enough) none of the names in the book matched their names and local addresses.
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:
Reading a piece about cafes etc collecting names and contact numbers.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-14/covid-confusion-as-cafes-warned-about-privacy-dangers/12351314
I looked up the Victorian guidelines and it reads as if name and number are only required for dine in. Which would make sense as we’ve spent the last 3 months getting takeaway without any requirements for name and number. That piece seems to be Queensland based. In it it says:
>>The OAIC said ID checks were not required, unless ordered by the chief health officer.<<
I reckon a pseudonym and fake number is going to happen. A lot.
In the days of NSW pubs being open on Sundays only to ‘bona fide travellers’, you had to sign the ‘guest book’ with your name and address to show that you’d travelled at least 50 kms to be there.
You’d go to the pub on Sunday afternoon, see all your neighbours and acquaintances there, and (oddly enough) none of the names in the book matched their names and local addresses.
Mz Tamb was a barmaid in a similar pub.
The city boundary ran along the street & the pub was built on the “Country” side of the road,
There’s the story of the POW camp run by the Japanese where they found that they had no proper record of the Allied prisoners in the camp.
Prisoners were required to supply their names. Prisoners were assembled, one by one approached the table, bowed, wrote their name in the book, bowed, returned to ranks.
The Japanese were astonished to find that a great many prisoners were named ‘Mickey Mouse’ and ‘Donald Duck’.
Statues fight back:
!!
Going to watch a movie this afternoon. I was thinking of going with Manganinnie, but maybe we’ll go with “Dingo”.
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
Bamboo-splitting tool all stuck together now. I tested it tentatively before welding the final four pieces on. Seemed to work OK. I’ll do a proper test when it’s cooled down. Now I must go clean up the welding area before rain starts happening.
I came in late on this one.
Why are you splitting bamboo, MV?
So the stems can go through the shredder for the compost. We regularly thin the bamboo clumps and remove 10 metre long stems. I was chopping it into half metre lengths and splitting those with a tomahawk and small sledge hammer, but it was slow and dangerous. The splitter I’ve made is modelled on this (40 sec video).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgqJ4Gk1ae4
Divine Angel said:
The Great Pyramid and its shadow.
Interesting perspective.
:)
Last I heard from roughbarked was thet he had some lumps under his arm and was planning to see a doctor. Anyone else heard anything?
btm said:
Last I heard from roughbarked was thet he had some lumps under his arm and was planning to see a doctor. Anyone else heard anything?
Nup.
Tamb said:
Statues fight back:
!!
:)
Nice work.
:)
Role up Role up.
Watch the Amazing PWM attempt a daring feet, to drive out of a Redoubt armed with nothing but a 2WD Colorado and a tonne of spunk.
Peak Warming Man said:
Role up Role up.
Watch the Amazing PWM attempt a daring feet, to drive out of a Redoubt armed with nothing but a 2WD Colorado and a tonne of spunk.
Peak Warming Man said:
Role up Role up.
Watch the Amazing PWM attempt a daring feet, to drive out of a Redoubt armed with nothing but a 2WD Colorado and a tonne of spunk.
Roll?
Tamb said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Role up Role up.
Watch the Amazing PWM attempt a daring feet, to drive out of a Redoubt armed with nothing but a 2WD Colorado and a tonne of spunk.
Sensible to be making your farewells now.
She’s a keeper.

Don’t go the raw prawn with Pakistanis.
Tribal People Try Sashimi For The First Time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vX9DfRdjcs
Peak Warming Man said:
Role up Role up.
Watch the Amazing PWM attempt a daring feet, to drive out of a Redoubt armed with nothing but a 2WD Colorado and a tonne of spunk.
Momentum is your friend. Stab it.
captain_spalding said:
She’s a keeper.
Heh!
:)
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
She’s a keeper.
Heh!
:)
https://www.cricket.com.au/news/alyssa-healy-mitchell-starc-wedding-sydney-nsw-teammates-lyon-abbot-maddinson-cummins/2016-04-15?mode=amp

Peak Warming Man said:
Role up Role up.
Watch the Amazing PWM attempt a daring feet, to drive out of a Redoubt armed with nothing but a 2WD Colorado and a tonne of spunk.
ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.
JudgeMental said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Role up Role up.
Watch the Amazing PWM attempt a daring feet, to drive out of a Redoubt armed with nothing but a 2WD Colorado and a tonne of spunk.
ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.
I was going to mention something about biohazard transport permits but I thought that would be too gross.
party_pants said:
JudgeMental said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Role up Role up.
Watch the Amazing PWM attempt a daring feet, to drive out of a Redoubt armed with nothing but a 2WD Colorado and a tonne of spunk.
ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.
I was going to mention something about biohazard transport permits but I thought that would be too gross.
Nothing is too gross for me.
Corona Virus claims a black belt. Chuck Norris, Dead at 77.
Carlos Ray “Chuck” Norris, famous actor and fighter, died yesterday afternoon at his home in Northwood Hills, TX at the age of 77.
Chuck Starred in dozens of movies and Tv series which have, and continue to entertain millions of people.
He was also a master of martial arts, which was the cause of his initial fame in the movie industry.
However, after his minor inconvenience of death, Chuck has made a full recovery, and is reported to be doing quite well.
It has also been reported that the Corona virus is in self isolation for 14 days due to being exposed to Chuck Norris.
JudgeMental said:
Corona Virus claims a black belt. Chuck Norris, Dead at 77.Carlos Ray “Chuck” Norris, famous actor and fighter, died yesterday afternoon at his home in Northwood Hills, TX at the age of 77.
Chuck Starred in dozens of movies and Tv series which have, and continue to entertain millions of people.
He was also a master of martial arts, which was the cause of his initial fame in the movie industry.
However, after his minor inconvenience of death, Chuck has made a full recovery, and is reported to be doing quite well.
It has also been reported that the Corona virus is in self isolation for 14 days due to being exposed to Chuck Norris.
I didn’t even like Chuck Norris but I still find this really sad. He was an icon.
sarahs mum said:
JudgeMental said:
Corona Virus claims a black belt. Chuck Norris, Dead at 77.Carlos Ray “Chuck” Norris, famous actor and fighter, died yesterday afternoon at his home in Northwood Hills, TX at the age of 77.
Chuck Starred in dozens of movies and Tv series which have, and continue to entertain millions of people.
He was also a master of martial arts, which was the cause of his initial fame in the movie industry.
However, after his minor inconvenience of death, Chuck has made a full recovery, and is reported to be doing quite well.
It has also been reported that the Corona virus is in self isolation for 14 days due to being exposed to Chuck Norris.
I didn’t even like Chuck Norris but I still find this really sad. He was an icon.
It was joke then?
party_pants said:
JudgeMental said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Role up Role up.
Watch the Amazing PWM attempt a daring feet, to drive out of a Redoubt armed with nothing but a 2WD Colorado and a tonne of spunk.
ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.
I was going to mention something about biohazard transport permits but I thought that would be too gross.
Has pwm been milking the wrong cattle?
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
JudgeMental said:
Corona Virus claims a black belt. Chuck Norris, Dead at 77.Carlos Ray “Chuck” Norris, famous actor and fighter, died yesterday afternoon at his home in Northwood Hills, TX at the age of 77.
Chuck Starred in dozens of movies and Tv series which have, and continue to entertain millions of people.
He was also a master of martial arts, which was the cause of his initial fame in the movie industry.
However, after his minor inconvenience of death, Chuck has made a full recovery, and is reported to be doing quite well.
It has also been reported that the Corona virus is in self isolation for 14 days due to being exposed to Chuck Norris.
I didn’t even like Chuck Norris but I still find this really sad. He was an icon.
It was joke then?
yes. he has died before, apparently.
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
JudgeMental said:
Corona Virus claims a black belt. Chuck Norris, Dead at 77.Carlos Ray “Chuck” Norris, famous actor and fighter, died yesterday afternoon at his home in Northwood Hills, TX at the age of 77.
Chuck Starred in dozens of movies and Tv series which have, and continue to entertain millions of people.
He was also a master of martial arts, which was the cause of his initial fame in the movie industry.
However, after his minor inconvenience of death, Chuck has made a full recovery, and is reported to be doing quite well.
It has also been reported that the Corona virus is in self isolation for 14 days due to being exposed to Chuck Norris.
I didn’t even like Chuck Norris but I still find this really sad. He was an icon.
It was joke then?
Aye.
Eight+ hours of rain in the pond, quite soothing.
연못에 내리는 빗소리 8시간 raining sounds in the pond
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymFIjrV-usM
JudgeMental said:
Corona Virus claims a black belt. Chuck Norris, Dead at 77.Carlos Ray “Chuck” Norris, famous actor and fighter, died yesterday afternoon at his home in Northwood Hills, TX at the age of 77.
Chuck Starred in dozens of movies and Tv series which have, and continue to entertain millions of people.
He was also a master of martial arts, which was the cause of his initial fame in the movie industry.
However, after his minor inconvenience of death, Chuck has made a full recovery, and is reported to be doing quite well.
It has also been reported that the Corona virus is in self isolation for 14 days due to being exposed to Chuck Norris.
This is not entirely true, as it appears that this brush with COVID has aged Chuck by 3 years. He is 80.
poikilotherm said:
party_pants said:
JudgeMental said:ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.
I was going to mention something about biohazard transport permits but I thought that would be too gross.
Has pwm been milking the wrong cattle?
hanging out at the redoubt
Looking through my Rain folder while listening to the rain and finishing the last couple glasses of wine.
Tonight’s dinner will be leftover hen casserole with an extra maryland chucked in with some more diced taters.
Bubblecar said:
Looking through my Rain folder while listening to the rain and finishing the last couple glasses of wine.Tonight’s dinner will be leftover hen casserole with an extra maryland chucked in with some more diced taters.
Where is that?
JudgeMental said:
Corona Virus claims a black belt. Chuck Norris, Dead at 77.Carlos Ray “Chuck” Norris, famous actor and fighter, died yesterday afternoon at his home in Northwood Hills, TX at the age of 77.
Chuck Starred in dozens of movies and Tv series which have, and continue to entertain millions of people.
He was also a master of martial arts, which was the cause of his initial fame in the movie industry.
However, after his minor inconvenience of death, Chuck has made a full recovery, and is reported to be doing quite well.
It has also been reported that the Corona virus is in self isolation for 14 days due to being exposed to Chuck Norris.
LOLs
:)
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
Looking through my Rain folder while listening to the rain and finishing the last couple glasses of wine.Tonight’s dinner will be leftover hen casserole with an extra maryland chucked in with some more diced taters.
Where is that?
chicago.
JudgeMental said:
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
Looking through my Rain folder while listening to the rain and finishing the last couple glasses of wine.Tonight’s dinner will be leftover hen casserole with an extra maryland chucked in with some more diced taters.
Where is that?
chicago.
actually times square.
JudgeMental said:
JudgeMental said:
sibeen said:Where is that?
chicago.
actually times square.
or chicago.
JudgeMental said:
JudgeMental said:
sibeen said:Where is that?
chicago.
actually times square.
or chicago.

JudgeMental said:
JudgeMental said:
JudgeMental said:chicago.
actually times square.
or chicago.
It’s not 1060 West Addison.
JudgeMental said:
JudgeMental said:
JudgeMental said:chicago.
actually times square.
or chicago.
The tram lines were confusing me but it appears Chicago had trams (streetcars) up until 1947.
JudgeMental said:
JudgeMental said:
JudgeMental said:chicago.
actually times square.
or chicago.
chicago. 190 N state street. photo taken from the rail bridge.
He Walked by Night is a 1948 American police procedural film noir directed by Alfred L. Werker and an uncredited Anthony Mann. The film, shot in semidocumentary tone, was loosely based on newspaper accounts of the real-life actions of Erwin “Machine-Gun” Walker, a former Glendale, California, police department employee and World War II veteran who unleashed a crime spree of burglaries, robberies, and shootouts in the Los Angeles area during 1945 and 1946.
During production, one of the actors, Jack Webb, struck up a friendship with the police technical advisor, Detective Sergeant Marty Wynn, and was inspired by a conversation with Wynn to create the radio and later television program Dragnet.
He Walked by Night was released by Eagle-Lion Films and is notable for the camera work by renowned noir cinematographer John Alton. Today the film is in the public domain.
Watched the movie “Dingo”. You have to like slow movies and jazz, but it was quite acceptable. It’s one of Rolf de Heer’s, so you have to expect atmospherics really.
I’ve made chicken based lasagna for tea. And cauliflower cheese. And there will be steamed Brussels sprouts. We are in for wind, I think.
Bubblecar said:
Looks like the work of a young Stanley Kubrick.
Ian said:
Bubblecar said:
Looks like the work of a young Stanley Kubrick.
it is.
buffy said:
Watched the movie “Dingo”. You have to like slow movies and jazz, but it was quite acceptable. It’s one of Rolf de Heer’s, so you have to expect atmospherics really.I’ve made chicken based lasagna for tea. And cauliflower cheese. And there will be steamed Brussels sprouts. We are in for wind, I think.
If only we could harness that energy
JudgeMental said:
He Walked by Night is a 1948 American police procedural film noir directed by Alfred L. Werker and an uncredited Anthony Mann. The film, shot in semidocumentary tone, was loosely based on newspaper accounts of the real-life actions of Erwin “Machine-Gun” Walker, a former Glendale, California, police department employee and World War II veteran who unleashed a crime spree of burglaries, robberies, and shootouts in the Los Angeles area during 1945 and 1946.During production, one of the actors, Jack Webb, struck up a friendship with the police technical advisor, Detective Sergeant Marty Wynn, and was inspired by a conversation with Wynn to create the radio and later television program Dragnet.
He Walked by Night was released by Eagle-Lion Films and is notable for the camera work by renowned noir cinematographer John Alton. Today the film is in the public domain.
You can listen to the 368 (!) episodes of the Dragnet radio series here.
http://www.radioechoes.com/?page=series&genre=OTR-Detective&series=Dragnet
You’ll hear a lot of actors in them in bit parts, who we got to know better later on e.g. Harry Morgan (who went on the be Jack Webb’s offsider in the Dragnet TV series), and William Conrad, the big man who was in the old ‘Cannon’ detective TV series. Conrad had been a fighter pilot in WW2: i’m thinking P-47s – he would have needed a roomy cockpit.
buffy said:
Watched the movie “Dingo”. You have to like slow movies and jazz, but it was quite acceptable. It’s one of Rolf de Heer’s, so you have to expect atmospherics really.I’ve made chicken based lasagna for tea. And cauliflower cheese. And there will be steamed Brussels sprouts. We are in for wind, I think.
“It’s one of Rolf de Heer’s,”
Social commentary shoehorned in?
Decided to brave the wind and rain and venture out for a little more wine.
Might dare myself to watch one of the Alien sequels I haven’t yet seen tonight.
Neophyte said:
buffy said:
Watched the movie “Dingo”. You have to like slow movies and jazz, but it was quite acceptable. It’s one of Rolf de Heer’s, so you have to expect atmospherics really.I’ve made chicken based lasagna for tea. And cauliflower cheese. And there will be steamed Brussels sprouts. We are in for wind, I think.
“It’s one of Rolf de Heer’s,”
Social commentary shoehorned in?
Not really, no. Miles Davis died fairly soon after he made the movie.
“Years after meeting a jazzman (Miles Davis) in Australia, an outback trumpeter (Colin Friels) goes to Paris and meets him again.”
Bubblecar said:
Decided to brave the wind and rain and venture out for a little more wine.Might dare myself to watch one of the Alien sequels I haven’t yet seen tonight.
We plan to watch the doco about the early people in America and then the next episode of Operation Buffalo.
Bubblecar said:
Decided to brave the wind and rain and venture out for a little more wine.Might dare myself to watch one of the Alien sequels I haven’t yet seen tonight.
They mostly come at night…
Some idiot just turned the corner too quickly, aquaplaned and almost fishtailed a car parked opposite, then came up onto my gutter before tearing down the street and going too fast around the next corner. Didn’t hear a crash; there’s some lovely telegraph poles at the next corner. Wouldn’t be the first time someone’s wrapped their car around them.
Holy gosh! Some extraordinary dash-cam footage:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-14/fuel-truck-flies-into-air-after-exploding-in-china/12354048
Well that was quick :)
Rather gruelling walk there with the umbrella leading the way, but a nice local lady gave me a lift back.
Bubblecar said:
Decided to brave the wind and rain and venture out for a little more wine.Might dare myself to watch one of the Alien sequels I haven’t yet seen tonight.
Aliens was good.
I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit…it’s the only way to be sure.I’ve just watched another episode of portrait artist of the week that each week shows the paintings that people did at home while the invited artist poses and paints the sitter. Last week was Noel Fielding. It made me think about some time in the future when Noel Fielding paintings will turn up at op shops. 2200 were submitted but there mist be more than that out there..
sarahs mum said:
I’ve just watched another episode of portrait artist of the week that each week shows the paintings that people did at home while the invited artist poses and paints the sitter. Last week was Noel Fielding. It made me think about some time in the future when Noel Fielding paintings will turn up at op shops. 2200 were submitted but there mist be more than that out there..
must.
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
I’ve just watched another episode of portrait artist of the week that each week shows the paintings that people did at home while the invited artist poses and paints the sitter. Last week was Noel Fielding. It made me think about some time in the future when Noel Fielding paintings will turn up at op shops. 2200 were submitted but there mist be more than that out there..must.
I’ve got 150 that i’ve done, stored out in the shed.

ABC News:
‘Australia’s response to coronavirus could pave the way to us becoming global research leaders’
For a short while, at least.
Until someone works out a way to ‘outsource/offshore’ it. To boost the dividends and, hence, the value of their stock options.
JudgeMental said:
Copycat from the US a few days back.
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
I’ve just watched another episode of portrait artist of the week that each week shows the paintings that people did at home while the invited artist poses and paints the sitter. Last week was Noel Fielding. It made me think about some time in the future when Noel Fielding paintings will turn up at op shops. 2200 were submitted but there mist be more than that out there..must.
I’ve got 150 that i’ve done, stored out in the shed.
Better to leave them on the nature strip to get them ‘out’ there.
ABC News:
‘A-League players are set to receive coronavirus tests and return to training this week, with the league shooting for a July 16 restart — but significant obstacles remain to be cleared.’
Biggest hurdle: trying to find someone in the entire continent who cares.
Witty Rejoinder said:
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:must.
I’ve got 150 that i’ve done, stored out in the shed.
Better to leave them on the nature strip to get them ‘out’ there.
Woo-hoo! My first exhibition!
JudgeMental said:
Love.
sarahs mum said:
JudgeMental said:
Love.
Fools.
They’re not biting.
Everyone know that if you’re after Canadian cops, you must put maple syrup on the bait.
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
JudgeMental said:
Love.
Fools.
They’re not biting.
Everyone know that if you’re after Canadian cops, you must put maple syrup on the bait.
KFC with chokecherry jelly.
JudgeMental said:
:)
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘A-League players are set to receive coronavirus tests and return to training this week, with the league shooting for a July 16 restart — but significant obstacles remain to be cleared.’
Biggest hurdle: trying to find someone in the entire continent who cares.
Now, now, don’t be cruel
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘Australia’s response to coronavirus could pave the way to us becoming global research leaders’
For a short while, at least.
Until someone works out a way to ‘outsource/offshore’ it. To boost the dividends and, hence, the value of their stock options.
that’s depressing
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘Australia’s response to coronavirus could pave the way to us becoming global research leaders’
For a short while, at least.
Until someone works out a way to ‘outsource/offshore’ it. To boost the dividends and, hence, the value of their stock options.
that’s depressing
It’s how it works.
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘Australia’s response to coronavirus could pave the way to us becoming global research leaders’
For a short while, at least.
Until someone works out a way to ‘outsource/offshore’ it. To boost the dividends and, hence, the value of their stock options.
that’s depressing
It’s how it works.
We’re creating a brave new post-Covid world where everything will be a bit less grey and miserable.
ABC News:
‘Friends of Karm Gilespie, the Australian sentenced to death in China, are organising a public appeal, with some saying they had no idea he was locked in a Chinese prison for the past six-and-a-half years.’
“Heard from Karm lately?”
“No, not since….ooh, 2012”.
“I suppose he’s all right.”
“Yeah, i suppose so.”
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:that’s depressing
It’s how it works.
We’re creating a brave new post-Covid world where everything will be a bit less grey and miserable.
Broad, sunlit uplands and all that.
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘Friends of Karm Gilespie, the Australian sentenced to death in China, are organising a public appeal, with some saying they had no idea he was locked in a Chinese prison for the past six-and-a-half years.’
“Heard from Karm lately?”
“No, not since….ooh, 2012”.
“I suppose he’s all right.”
“Yeah, i suppose so.”
I read that piece. Apparently they decided he must have decided to start a new life or something. There doesn’t seem to be any mention of family.
Perhaps the Chinese objected to him wanting to run wealth seminars or something.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Bubblecar said:
Decided to brave the wind and rain and venture out for a little more wine.Might dare myself to watch one of the Alien sequels I haven’t yet seen tonight.
They mostly come at night…
You know I’ve only seen Michael Biehn in four movies and they’ve all been kind of iconic
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘Australia’s response to coronavirus could pave the way to us becoming global research leaders’
For a short while, at least.
Until someone works out a way to ‘outsource/offshore’ it. To boost the dividends and, hence, the value of their stock options.
It’s not like that doesn’t happen to all first-world nations.
dv said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Bubblecar said:
Decided to brave the wind and rain and venture out for a little more wine.Might dare myself to watch one of the Alien sequels I haven’t yet seen tonight.
They mostly come at night…
You know I’ve only seen Michael Biehn in four movies and they’ve all been kind of iconic
‘The Terminator’, ‘Aliens’, maybe ‘The Abyss’ and?
buffy said:
Perhaps the Chinese objected to him wanting to run wealth seminars or something.
If the seminars included anything about ecological/social/political responsibility, then yeah, death sentence would be pretty much mandatory.
So where is everyone tonight? Off watching Big Brother or sumifn’?
Woodie said:
So where is everyone tonight? Off watching Big Brother or sumifn’?
Not watching BB.
Bloke whose job it is to come around and hold a gun to my head so i watch it called in sick.
ABC News:
‘Sweet relief for Dragons and coach McGregor in win over Sharks
A number of pivotal tweaks to the team sheet help the Dragons to a 30-16 win over the Sharks, ending a tumultuous week and somewhat easing the pressure on coach Paul McGregor.’
Do they play the fake crowd noises over the loudspeakers at non-televised games, so the players’ general autism isn’t dislocated by the absence of the familiar noise?
Woodie said:
So where is everyone tonight? Off watching Big Brother or sumifn’?
Oh you know, hiding.
I visited my Dad this afternoon just to pick up a couple of old packing crates, ended up staying for 2 hours and talking religion and politics. So unless there is something else interesting here to talk about I’m all out of energy for R & P today.
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:
Witty Rejoinder said:They mostly come at night…
You know I’ve only seen Michael Biehn in four movies and they’ve all been kind of iconic
‘The Terminator’, ‘Aliens’, maybe ‘The Abyss’ and?
He’s in T2 as well, but my fourth is Tombstone, not having seen Abyss.
party_pants said:
Woodie said:
So where is everyone tonight? Off watching Big Brother or sumifn’?
Oh you know, hiding.
I visited my Dad this afternoon just to pick up a couple of old packing crates, ended up staying for 2 hours and talking religion and politics. So unless there is something else interesting here to talk about I’m all out of energy for R & P today.
Is your father still religious?
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘Sweet relief for Dragons and coach McGregor in win over Sharks
A number of pivotal tweaks to the team sheet help the Dragons to a 30-16 win over the Sharks, ending a tumultuous week and somewhat easing the pressure on coach Paul McGregor.’Do they play the fake crowd noises over the loudspeakers at non-televised games, so the players’ general autism isn’t dislocated by the absence of the familiar noise?
All games are televised.
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘Sweet relief for Dragons and coach McGregor in win over Sharks
A number of pivotal tweaks to the team sheet help the Dragons to a 30-16 win over the Sharks, ending a tumultuous week and somewhat easing the pressure on coach Paul McGregor.’Do they play the fake crowd noises over the loudspeakers at non-televised games, so the players’ general autism isn’t dislocated by the absence of the familiar noise?
I don’t think they’re playing the crown noise live at the ground. I think it’s added in the broadcast suite.
Woodie said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘Sweet relief for Dragons and coach McGregor in win over Sharks
A number of pivotal tweaks to the team sheet help the Dragons to a 30-16 win over the Sharks, ending a tumultuous week and somewhat easing the pressure on coach Paul McGregor.’Do they play the fake crowd noises over the loudspeakers at non-televised games, so the players’ general autism isn’t dislocated by the absence of the familiar noise?
All games are televised.
That also must be a reassurance to them.
Rule 303 said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘Sweet relief for Dragons and coach McGregor in win over Sharks
A number of pivotal tweaks to the team sheet help the Dragons to a 30-16 win over the Sharks, ending a tumultuous week and somewhat easing the pressure on coach Paul McGregor.’Do they play the fake crowd noises over the loudspeakers at non-televised games, so the players’ general autism isn’t dislocated by the absence of the familiar noise?
I don’t think they’re playing the crown noise live at the ground. I think it’s added in the broadcast suite.
That must be weird for them, then.
They’d feel like two teams of totally deaf people playing in normal times.
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
Woodie said:
So where is everyone tonight? Off watching Big Brother or sumifn’?
Oh you know, hiding.
I visited my Dad this afternoon just to pick up a couple of old packing crates, ended up staying for 2 hours and talking religion and politics. So unless there is something else interesting here to talk about I’m all out of energy for R & P today.
Is your father still religious?
No. But he won’t admit to being an atheist and just being into some Christian values that are in accord with humanity.
There was that match the other day where they had cardboard-cut-out spectators in approx the first ten rows of seating.
Presumably to try to make it look more ‘normal’.
I’ve never seen anything so pathetic in all my born days.
Woodie said:
So where is everyone tonight? Off watching Big Brother or sumifn’?
I’m off with the faeries.
captain_spalding said:
There was that match the other day where they had cardboard-cut-out spectators in approx the first ten rows of seating.Presumably to try to make it look more ‘normal’.
I’ve never seen anything so pathetic in all my born days.
There were infamous bay covers at Football Park in Adelaide which made the spectators all sit together in full bays just behind the best camera angles rather than spread out thinly over the whole place, The empty bays were covered with big tarps painted up in the club logos.
captain_spalding said:
There was that match the other day where they had cardboard-cut-out spectators in approx the first ten rows of seating.Presumably to try to make it look more ‘normal’.
I’ve never seen anything so pathetic in all my born days.
They’re life-sized photos of club members.
A mate reckons his cut-out copped a 2-week ban for the abuse it dished out to the goal umpire after a very poor decision that caused the draw in the Collingwood – Richmond game.
:-)
captain_spalding said:
I’ve never seen anything so pathetic in all my born days.
you haven’t seen me naked…
JudgeMental said:
captain_spalding said:I’ve never seen anything so pathetic in all my born days.
you haven’t seen me naked…
…and i plan on it remaining so.
JudgeMental said:
captain_spalding said:I’ve never seen anything so pathetic in all my born days.
you haven’t seen me naked…
sometimes I have to hit submit really quick before i chicken out posting …
Okay …
It’s not a big deal, in the scheme of things. I just don’t understand. Why is he boasting about walking down a ramp?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FTvuVxUmnZ4

dv said:
Okay …
It’s not a big deal, in the scheme of things. I just don’t understand. Why is he boasting about walking down a ramp?https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FTvuVxUmnZ4
Most two year olds can confidently walk down a long, steep ramp. What a good boy Trump is!
dv said:
Okay …
It’s not a big deal, in the scheme of things. I just don’t understand. Why is he boasting about walking down a ramp?https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FTvuVxUmnZ4
baby steps…
dv said:
Okay …
It’s not a big deal, in the scheme of things. I just don’t understand. Why is he boasting about walking down a ramp?https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FTvuVxUmnZ4
The lifts make it treacherous.
dv said:
Okay …
It’s not a big deal, in the scheme of things. I just don’t understand. Why is he boasting about walking down a ramp?https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FTvuVxUmnZ4
If you can’t blame someone else for it, boast about it.
dv said:
Okay …
It’s not a big deal, in the scheme of things. I just don’t understand. Why is he boasting about walking down a ramp?https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FTvuVxUmnZ4
Was probably chewing gum.
There are three kinds of people
dv said:
There are three kinds of people
See, this is why i always preferred older women.
dv said:
There are three kinds of people
teeth in or out?
dv said:
There are three kinds of people
LOL.
JudgeMental said:
dv said:
There are three kinds of people
teeth in or out?
Now you’re getting fussy.
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
There are three kinds of people
See, this is why i always preferred older women.
Last night we had Chinese takeaway. While I was waiting for the food, I wandered into the adult store next door. No, I didn’t buy anything. There’s a wall of messages, where people offer services. One was a naked male house cleaner. Several were older guys, 55-70, looking for some erotic massage work for da ladeez.
Divine Angel said:
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
There are three kinds of people
See, this is why i always preferred older women.
Last night we had Chinese takeaway. While I was waiting for the food, I wandered into the adult store next door. No, I didn’t buy anything. There’s a wall of messages, where people offer services. One was a naked male house cleaner. Several were older guys, 55-70, looking for some erotic massage work for da ladeez.
eeeeww.
Divine Angel said:
Oh dear… I shouldn’t laugh… but sometimes it is involuntary.
Woodie said:
So where is everyone tonight? Off watching Big Brother or sumifn’?
Cleaning a clogged gutter, digging a trench and sweeping water out of the shed. Happy?!
It wasn’t on the agenda, but I heard the water going over the edge and knew exactly what I’d find when I turned the light on. I should have checked that downpipe today. But it’s not that long since I cleaned it out. It was completely clogged again.
There is no way on this green Earth that i would have a naked male house cleaner roaming about my premises without me being there.
There is far less chance that i’d permit it with me being there.
buffy said:
Woodie said:
So where is everyone tonight? Off watching Big Brother or sumifn’?
Cleaning a clogged gutter, digging a trench and sweeping water out of the shed. Happy?!
It wasn’t on the agenda, but I heard the water going over the edge and knew exactly what I’d find when I turned the light on. I should have checked that downpipe today. But it’s not that long since I cleaned it out. It was completely clogged again.
DA knows where there’s a notice board with details of a lot of chaps who offer various services.
Perhaps drain-clearing is within the range of one of them.
buffy said:
Woodie said:
So where is everyone tonight? Off watching Big Brother or sumifn’?
Cleaning a clogged gutter, digging a trench and sweeping water out of the shed. Happy?!
It wasn’t on the agenda, but I heard the water going over the edge and knew exactly what I’d find when I turned the light on. I should have checked that downpipe today. But it’s not that long since I cleaned it out. It was completely clogged again.
Don’t act like you didn’t enjoy it.
captain_spalding said:
There is no way on this green Earth that i would have a naked male house cleaner roaming about my premises without me being there.There is far less chance that i’d permit it with me being there.
what is it with you and naked men???
Witty Rejoinder said:
buffy said:
Woodie said:
So where is everyone tonight? Off watching Big Brother or sumifn’?
Cleaning a clogged gutter, digging a trench and sweeping water out of the shed. Happy?!
It wasn’t on the agenda, but I heard the water going over the edge and knew exactly what I’d find when I turned the light on. I should have checked that downpipe today. But it’s not that long since I cleaned it out. It was completely clogged again.
Don’t act like you didn’t enjoy it.
It’s better in daylight…
JudgeMental said:
captain_spalding said:
There is no way on this green Earth that i would have a naked male house cleaner roaming about my premises without me being there.There is far less chance that i’d permit it with me being there.
what is it with you and naked men???
I’m fine with naked men. As long as it’s me.
So anyway, we will have to find the doco on early American people on the SBS on demand thingy and watch it some other time.
captain_spalding said:
There is no way on this green Earth that i would have a naked male house cleaner roaming about my premises without me being there.There is far less chance that i’d permit it with me being there.
He specified “lady’s only” so I think you’re safe.
Divine Angel said:
captain_spalding said:
There is no way on this green Earth that i would have a naked male house cleaner roaming about my premises without me being there.There is far less chance that i’d permit it with me being there.
He specified “lady’s only” so I think you’re safe.
Divine Angel said:
captain_spalding said:
There is no way on this green Earth that i would have a naked male house cleaner roaming about my premises without me being there.There is far less chance that i’d permit it with me being there.
He specified “lady’s only” so I think you’re safe.
Probably good money in it if he is a fit young man, say a uni student or some such. Better than working shifts at McDonalds flippin burgers. Good luck to him.
party_pants said:
Divine Angel said:
captain_spalding said:
There is no way on this green Earth that i would have a naked male house cleaner roaming about my premises without me being there.There is far less chance that i’d permit it with me being there.
He specified “lady’s only” so I think you’re safe.
Probably good money in it if he is a fit young man, say a uni student or some such. Better than working shifts at McDonalds flippin burgers. Good luck to him.
I was picturing him in the 55-70 age bracket that DA also mentioned.
Money be goin’ the other way, were that the case.
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:
Divine Angel said:He specified “lady’s only” so I think you’re safe.
Probably good money in it if he is a fit young man, say a uni student or some such. Better than working shifts at McDonalds flippin burgers. Good luck to him.
I was picturing him in the 55-70 age bracket that DA also mentioned.
Money be goin’ the other way, were that the case.
I don’t recall if he gave his age, but his name was James.
I saw many, many disturbing things in that store.
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:
Divine Angel said:He specified “lady’s only” so I think you’re safe.
Probably good money in it if he is a fit young man, say a uni student or some such. Better than working shifts at McDonalds flippin burgers. Good luck to him.
I was picturing him in the 55-70 age bracket that DA also mentioned.
Money be goin’ the other way, were that the case.
I read that as two separate ads.
Divine Angel said:
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:Probably good money in it if he is a fit young man, say a uni student or some such. Better than working shifts at McDonalds flippin burgers. Good luck to him.
I was picturing him in the 55-70 age bracket that DA also mentioned.
Money be goin’ the other way, were that the case.
I don’t recall if he gave his age, but his name was James.
I saw many, many disturbing things in that store.
but you don’t know if you’ve never tried … etc
Divine Angel said:
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:Probably good money in it if he is a fit young man, say a uni student or some such. Better than working shifts at McDonalds flippin burgers. Good luck to him.
I was picturing him in the 55-70 age bracket that DA also mentioned.
Money be goin’ the other way, were that the case.
I don’t recall if he gave his age, but his name was James.
I saw many, many disturbing things in that store.
I worked in the field of ‘innovative military technology’ i.e. newer and better ways to kill people.
People in that business have nuthin’ when it comes to imagination, compared to whoever cooks up some of the things you see in sex shops.
Divine Angel said:
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:Probably good money in it if he is a fit young man, say a uni student or some such. Better than working shifts at McDonalds flippin burgers. Good luck to him.
I was picturing him in the 55-70 age bracket that DA also mentioned.
Money be goin’ the other way, were that the case.
I don’t recall if he gave his age, but his name was James.
I saw many, many disturbing things in that store.
>looks quizzical<
If this is not a terribly personal question – Was this your first time visiting an Adult store?
OK I’m watching Aliens. I have actually seen this one before but not since the 1980s.
I have the other two sequels (neither of which I’ve seen) on DVD too, but I think I’d better do them in order.
party_pants said:
Divine Angel said:
captain_spalding said:I was picturing him in the 55-70 age bracket that DA also mentioned.
Money be goin’ the other way, were that the case.
I don’t recall if he gave his age, but his name was James.
I saw many, many disturbing things in that store.
but you don’t know if you’ve never tried … etc
There was a dildo as long as my forearm and literally twice as thick.
Divine Angel said:
party_pants said:
Divine Angel said:I don’t recall if he gave his age, but his name was James.
I saw many, many disturbing things in that store.
but you don’t know if you’ve never tried … etc
There was a dildo as long as my forearm and literally twice as thick.
Probably just ornamental.
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
captain_spalding said:I was picturing him in the 55-70 age bracket that DA also mentioned.
Money be goin’ the other way, were that the case.
I don’t recall if he gave his age, but his name was James.
I saw many, many disturbing things in that store.
>looks quizzical<
If this is not a terribly personal question – Was this your first time visiting an Adult store?
Yes. I’ve been in an erotic bookstore (with Brendon, actually) and I’ve browsed online, but until last night had never stepped instore.
Bubblecar said:
Divine Angel said:
party_pants said:but you don’t know if you’ve never tried … etc
There was a dildo as long as my forearm and literally twice as thick.
Probably just ornamental.
you ain’t been ‘round the internet much, have ya, boy?
Divine Angel said:
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:I don’t recall if he gave his age, but his name was James.
I saw many, many disturbing things in that store.
>looks quizzical<
If this is not a terribly personal question – Was this your first time visiting an Adult store?
Yes. I’ve been in an erotic bookstore (with Brendon, actually) and I’ve browsed online, but until last night had never stepped instore.
Ah, well, that would explain your surprise.
I don’t know if anyone’s really comfortable in an Adult store.
democrats started the vietnam war!
prove me wrong.
Life expectancy for a rough sleeper in Australia is 49.
JudgeMental said:
Well France did really but Democrats started the US component
democrats started the vietnam war!prove me wrong.
dv said:
JudgeMental said:Well France did really but Democrats started the US component
democrats started the vietnam war!prove me wrong.
they can blame the Japs.
captain_spalding said:
Divine Angel said:
captain_spalding said:I was picturing him in the 55-70 age bracket that DA also mentioned.
Money be goin’ the other way, were that the case.
I don’t recall if he gave his age, but his name was James.
I saw many, many disturbing things in that store.
I worked in the field of ‘innovative military technology’ i.e. newer and better ways to kill people.
People in that business have nuthin’ when it comes to imagination, compared to whoever cooks up some of the things you see in sex shops.
That was an interesting post to click on right after watching Operation Buffalo.
sarahs mum said:
Life expectancy for a rough sleeper in Australia is 49.
Damn
dv said:
JudgeMental said:Well France did really but Democrats started the US component
democrats started the vietnam war!prove me wrong.
wasn’t it started under eisenhower?
JudgeMental said:
dv said:
JudgeMental said:Well France did really but Democrats started the US component
democrats started the vietnam war!prove me wrong.
wasn’t it started under eisenhower?
I’n‘t think there was any serious number of American forces in place until the Kennedy era
dv said:
JudgeMental said:
dv said:Well France did really but Democrats started the US componentwasn’t it started under eisenhower?
I’n‘t think there was any serious number of American forces in place until the Kennedy era
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Role_of_the_United_States_in_the_Vietnam_War#Dwight_D._Eisenhower_(1953–61)
November 1, 1955 — President Eisenhower deploys the Military Assistance Advisory Group to train the Army of the Republic of Vietnam. This marks the official beginning of American involvement in the war as recognized by the Vietnam Veterans Memorial.
JudgeMental said:
dv said:
JudgeMental said:wasn’t it started under eisenhower?
I’n‘t think there was any serious number of American forces in place until the Kennedy era
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Role_of_the_United_States_in_the_Vietnam_War#Dwight_D._Eisenhower_(1953–61)
November 1, 1955 — President Eisenhower deploys the Military Assistance Advisory Group to train the Army of the Republic of Vietnam. This marks the official beginning of American involvement in the war as recognized by the Vietnam Veterans Memorial.
Very well then but note
U.S. involvement escalated under President John F. Kennedy through the MAAG program from just under a thousand military advisors in 1959 to 16,000 in 1963.:131 By 1963, the North Vietnamese had sent 40,000 soldiers to fight in South Vietnam.:16North Vietnam was heavily backed by the USSR and the People’s Republic of China. China also sent hundreds of PLA servicemen to North Vietnam to serve in air-defense and support roles.:371–4By 1964, there were 23,000 US advisors in South Vietnam.
dv said:
JudgeMental said:
dv said:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Role_of_the_United_States_in_the_Vietnam_War#Dwight_D._Eisenhower_(1953–61)
November 1, 1955 — President Eisenhower deploys the Military Assistance Advisory Group to train the Army of the Republic of Vietnam. This marks the official beginning of American involvement in the war as recognized by the Vietnam Veterans Memorial.
Very well then but note
U.S. involvement escalated under President John F. Kennedy through the MAAG program from just under a thousand military advisors in 1959 to 16,000 in 1963.:131 By 1963, the North Vietnamese had sent 40,000 soldiers to fight in South Vietnam.:16North Vietnam was heavily backed by the USSR and the People’s Republic of China. China also sent hundreds of PLA servicemen to North Vietnam to serve in air-defense and support roles.:371–4By 1964, there were 23,000 US advisors in South Vietnam.
yep. I was more about when it officially started. just stirring some reps on youtube really.
:-)
https://www.chess.com/live/game/4998844086
Had a bit of a weird chess game. I got into a bit of trouble by around move 35. By 43 I’d managed to gnaw my way to a position where I was only down KBPP v KRPP. The pawns were stuck in pairs: my king guarded one pawn and my bishop the other. I snarfled one pawn as my opponent sent his king to aid his rook, then he swapped his rook for a bishop and pawn, so we were level on material. I converted the move immediately before he did but that was enough for me to control the situation. It’s a game of trifles.
dv said:
https://www.chess.com/live/game/4998844086Had a bit of a weird chess game. I got into a bit of trouble by around move 35. By 43 I’d managed to gnaw my way to a position where I was only down KBPP v KRPP. The pawns were stuck in pairs: my king guarded one pawn and my bishop the other. I snarfled one pawn as my opponent sent his king to aid his rook, then he swapped his rook for a bishop and pawn, so we were level on material. I converted the move immediately before he did but that was enough for me to control the situation. It’s a game of trifles.
so you mopped the floor with him like a sponge, he turned to jelly and ran like cowardly custard. have a sherry to celebrate.
JudgeMental said:
dv said:
https://www.chess.com/live/game/4998844086Had a bit of a weird chess game. I got into a bit of trouble by around move 35. By 43 I’d managed to gnaw my way to a position where I was only down KBPP v KRPP. The pawns were stuck in pairs: my king guarded one pawn and my bishop the other. I snarfled one pawn as my opponent sent his king to aid his rook, then he swapped his rook for a bishop and pawn, so we were level on material. I converted the move immediately before he did but that was enough for me to control the situation. It’s a game of trifles.
so you mopped the floor with him like a sponge, he turned to jelly and ran like cowardly custard. have a sherry to celebrate.
JudgeMental said:
dv said:
https://www.chess.com/live/game/4998844086Had a bit of a weird chess game. I got into a bit of trouble by around move 35. By 43 I’d managed to gnaw my way to a position where I was only down KBPP v KRPP. The pawns were stuck in pairs: my king guarded one pawn and my bishop the other. I snarfled one pawn as my opponent sent his king to aid his rook, then he swapped his rook for a bishop and pawn, so we were level on material. I converted the move immediately before he did but that was enough for me to control the situation. It’s a game of trifles.
so you mopped the floor with him like a sponge, he turned to jelly and ran like cowardly custard. have a sherry to celebrate.
Dear lord.
sibeen said:
JudgeMental said:
dv said:
https://www.chess.com/live/game/4998844086Had a bit of a weird chess game. I got into a bit of trouble by around move 35. By 43 I’d managed to gnaw my way to a position where I was only down KBPP v KRPP. The pawns were stuck in pairs: my king guarded one pawn and my bishop the other. I snarfled one pawn as my opponent sent his king to aid his rook, then he swapped his rook for a bishop and pawn, so we were level on material. I converted the move immediately before he did but that was enough for me to control the situation. It’s a game of trifles.
so you mopped the floor with him like a sponge, he turned to jelly and ran like cowardly custard. have a sherry to celebrate.
Dear lord.
you’re just puddin on this show of disdain!
JudgeMental said:
sibeen said:
JudgeMental said:so you mopped the floor with him like a sponge, he turned to jelly and ran like cowardly custard. have a sherry to celebrate.
Dear lord.
you’re just puddin on this show of disdain!
Right now I’m wishing I was stuck, alone, on a dessert island.
sibeen said:
JudgeMental said:
dv said:
https://www.chess.com/live/game/4998844086Had a bit of a weird chess game. I got into a bit of trouble by around move 35. By 43 I’d managed to gnaw my way to a position where I was only down KBPP v KRPP. The pawns were stuck in pairs: my king guarded one pawn and my bishop the other. I snarfled one pawn as my opponent sent his king to aid his rook, then he swapped his rook for a bishop and pawn, so we were level on material. I converted the move immediately before he did but that was enough for me to control the situation. It’s a game of trifles.
so you mopped the floor with him like a sponge, he turned to jelly and ran like cowardly custard. have a sherry to celebrate.
Dear lord.
Well I’ve done enough of Aliens (1986) as I can expect to do in one night, so it’s now going to be music etc until the wee hours.
Might to do a little pasta supper in an hour or so.
dv said:
Okay …
It’s not a big deal, in the scheme of things. I just don’t understand. Why is he boasting about walking down a ramp?https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FTvuVxUmnZ4
sporting people do it all the time, it’s far more honourable to retire injured than to get beaten in a fair match
Bubblecar said:
Well I’ve done enough of Aliens (1986) as I can expect to do in one night, so it’s now going to be music etc until the wee hours.Might to do a little pasta supper in an hour or so.
But without the superfluous “to”.
party_pants said:
Woodie said:
So where is everyone tonight? Off watching Big Brother or sumifn’?
Oh you know, hiding.
I visited my Dad this afternoon just to pick up a couple of old packing crates, ended up staying for 2 hours and talking religion and politics. So unless there is something else interesting here to talk about I’m all out of energy for R & P today.
we were teaching SCIENCE
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
Okay …
It’s not a big deal, in the scheme of things. I just don’t understand. Why is he boasting about walking down a ramp?https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FTvuVxUmnZ4
sporting people do it all the time, it’s far more honourable to retire injured than to get beaten in a fair match
When I think of Trump I think of the Leonard Cohen lyrics:
… That’s right, it’s come to this,
Yes it’s come to this,
And wasn’t it a long way down,
Wasn’t it a strange way down?
Bubblecar said:
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
Okay …
It’s not a big deal, in the scheme of things. I just don’t understand. Why is he boasting about walking down a ramp?https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FTvuVxUmnZ4
sporting people do it all the time, it’s far more honourable to retire injured than to get beaten in a fair match
When I think of Trump I think of the Leonard Cohen lyrics:
… That’s right, it’s come to this,
Yes it’s come to this,
And wasn’t it a long way down,
Wasn’t it a strange way down?
It’s a horrid song, but here it is:
Leonard Cohen – Dress Rehearsal Rag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhVW0vMljP8
SCIENCE said:
party_pants said:
Woodie said:
So where is everyone tonight? Off watching Big Brother or sumifn’?
Oh you know, hiding.
I visited my Dad this afternoon just to pick up a couple of old packing crates, ended up staying for 2 hours and talking religion and politics. So unless there is something else interesting here to talk about I’m all out of energy for R & P today.
we were teaching SCIENCE
bullshit. I’ve read back.
How to Make Devonshire Squab Pie – The Victorian Way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkt31n7Jp_o
Possibly from Devonshire. Contains no squab.
sarahs mum said:
How to Make Devonshire Squab Pie – The Victorian Way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkt31n7Jp_oPossibly from Devonshire. Contains no squab.
Bit like Welsh rabbit and Scotch woodcock.
Looks good though, wish we could get proper mutton around here.
I love her kitchen.
I’ve never eaten goose.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
How to Make Devonshire Squab Pie – The Victorian Way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkt31n7Jp_oPossibly from Devonshire. Contains no squab.
Bit like Welsh rabbit and Scotch woodcock.
Looks good though, wish we could get proper mutton around here.
I love her kitchen.
I love her pronunciation. I might find myself watching more of them.
Sister sent me this photo tonight. She has upgraded the chairs to what was the formal table when I was growing up. They are blackwood. There has never been the right chairs. I think the ones growing up were oak.
party_pants said:
I’ve never eaten goose.
I’ve eaten a lot of goose.
There was a time when I was almost force fed goose.
party_pants said:
I’ve never eaten goose.
If you’ve eaten duck, it’s similar but stronger tasting and richer.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
How to Make Devonshire Squab Pie – The Victorian Way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkt31n7Jp_oPossibly from Devonshire. Contains no squab.
Bit like Welsh rabbit and Scotch woodcock.
Looks good though, wish we could get proper mutton around here.
I love her kitchen.
I love her pronunciation. I might find myself watching more of them.
Sister sent me this photo tonight. She has upgraded the chairs to what was the formal table when I was growing up. They are blackwood. There has never been the right chairs. I think the ones growing up were oak.
![]()
They match reasonably well.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jun/14/tony-abbott-claims-no-evidence-indigenous-australians-face-justice-system-discrimination
Tony Abbott incorrectly claims ‘no evidence’ Indigenous Australians face justice system discrimination
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:Bit like Welsh rabbit and Scotch woodcock.
Looks good though, wish we could get proper mutton around here.
I love her kitchen.
I love her pronunciation. I might find myself watching more of them.
Sister sent me this photo tonight. She has upgraded the chairs to what was the formal table when I was growing up. They are blackwood. There has never been the right chairs. I think the ones growing up were oak.
![]()
They match reasonably well.
Grandfather bought that table second hand in 1912.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:I love her pronunciation. I might find myself watching more of them.
Sister sent me this photo tonight. She has upgraded the chairs to what was the formal table when I was growing up. They are blackwood. There has never been the right chairs. I think the ones growing up were oak.
![]()
They match reasonably well.
Grandfather bought that table second hand in 1912.
Good to see it’s still in the family.
dv said:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jun/14/tony-abbott-claims-no-evidence-indigenous-australians-face-justice-system-discriminationTony Abbott incorrectly claims ‘no evidence’ Indigenous Australians face justice system discrimination
He’s fn shameful.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:They match reasonably well.
Grandfather bought that table second hand in 1912.
Good to see it’s still in the family.
I’ve got the wardrobe. Narnia is not at the back of it.
sarahs mum said:
I love her pronunciation. I might find myself watching more of them.
Sister sent me this photo tonight. She has upgraded the chairs to what was the formal table when I was growing up. They are blackwood. There has never been the right chairs. I think the ones growing up were oak.
Nice.
Some chairs to go with my table has always been a project to get around to one day. Chairs are sort of the big challenge for woodworking. Need to abandon straight lines and go for more organic forms.
make another coffee I reckon
few from today, surfing way distant down other end of beach
https://www.flickr.com/photos/164337984@N08/
wasn’t really any waves, but good for a paddle
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
I love her pronunciation. I might find myself watching more of them.
Sister sent me this photo tonight. She has upgraded the chairs to what was the formal table when I was growing up. They are blackwood. There has never been the right chairs. I think the ones growing up were oak.
![]()
Nice.
Some chairs to go with my table has always been a project to get around to one day. Chairs are sort of the big challenge for woodworking. Need to abandon straight lines and go for more organic forms.
I suppose a bunch of matching ones makes it harder again.
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jun/14/tony-abbott-claims-no-evidence-indigenous-australians-face-justice-system-discriminationTony Abbott incorrectly claims ‘no evidence’ Indigenous Australians face justice system discrimination
He’s fn shameful.
Why do news outlets give relevance to creeps like this and the vermin who desecrated the memorial to Eurydice Dixon?
sarahs mum said:
I suppose a bunch of matching ones makes it harder again.
Once you got the plans drawn up, even the templates, you cut and shape all the pieces at once.
https://www-forbes-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/www.forbes.com/sites/carlieporterfield/2020/06/10/twitter-begins-asking-users-to-actually-read-articles-before-sharing-them/amp/
Twitter Begins Asking Users To Actually Read Articles Before Sharing Them
Simple but delicious pasta supper now ready. Farfalle. Small chopped onion, some finely chopped broccoli stem, 5 x chopped cloves garlic, cooked in olive oil with mixed Italian herbs, sat, pepper.
When cooked, the whole lot mixed together with a load of freshly grated parmesan.
party_pants said:
SCIENCE said:
party_pants said:
JudgeMental said:
Woodie said:
So where is everyone tonight? Off watching Big Brother or sumifn’?
I’m off with the faeries.
Oh you know, hiding.
I visited my Dad this afternoon just to pick up a couple of old packing crates, ended up staying for 2 hours and talking religion and politics. So unless there is something else interesting here to talk about I’m all out of energy for R & P today.
we were teaching SCIENCE
bullshit. I’ve read back.
nah legit’ here’s some if y’ll’ll excuse the messy

dv said:
https://www-forbes-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/www.forbes.com/sites/carlieporterfield/2020/06/10/twitter-begins-asking-users-to-actually-read-articles-before-sharing-them/amp/Twitter Begins Asking Users To Actually Read Articles Before Sharing Them
another Culture Wars Divergence Between Social Mediums ah
Michael V said:
Holy gosh! Some extraordinary dash-cam footage:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-14/fuel-truck-flies-into-air-after-exploding-in-china/12354048
how the fk did they manage to cause that
dv said:
can’t stop gigging :)))
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
Holy gosh! Some extraordinary dash-cam footage:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-14/fuel-truck-flies-into-air-after-exploding-in-china/12354048
how the fk did they manage to cause that
https://youtu.be/1Ntgcr7HwuE
Good morning Holidayers. A tropical 9 degrees this morning, overcast and just starting to get light. Our forecast is for 15 and showery. I might do a little sewing and crochet today. Haven’t decided yet.
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. A tropical 9 degrees this morning, overcast and just starting to get light. Our forecast is for 15 and showery. I might do a little sewing and crochet today. Haven’t decided yet.
Westall, Victoria 1966, a suburban UFO mystery.
https://vimeo.com/160834396
Tamb said:
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. A tropical 9 degrees this morning, overcast and just starting to get light. Our forecast is for 15 and showery. I might do a little sewing and crochet today. Haven’t decided yet.
Morning Buffy et al.
20°→ 23. Maybe a little rain.
Ticks still bad. Removed another two last night.
Don’t go outside without a flamethrower.
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. A tropical 9 degrees this morning, overcast and just starting to get light. Our forecast is for 15 and showery. I might do a little sewing and crochet today. Haven’t decided yet.
Morning Buffy et al.
20°→ 23. Maybe a little rain.
Ticks still bad. Removed another two last night.
Don’t go outside without a flamethrower.
dv said:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jun/14/tony-abbott-claims-no-evidence-indigenous-australians-face-justice-system-discriminationTony Abbott incorrectly claims ‘no evidence’ Indigenous Australians face justice system discrimination
Hang on. Didn’t he just get a gong for services to Indigenous Australians? I thought he knew about these things…
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:Morning Buffy et al.
20°→ 23. Maybe a little rain.
Ticks still bad. Removed another two last night.
Don’t go outside without a flamethrower.
It’s getting that way. So far only one paralysis tick, the rest are scrub ticks.
We get them here too. A lot of people are surprised by the ticks and leeches when they venture into the forests.
buffy said:
dv said:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jun/14/tony-abbott-claims-no-evidence-indigenous-australians-face-justice-system-discriminationTony Abbott incorrectly claims ‘no evidence’ Indigenous Australians face justice system discrimination
Hang on. Didn’t he just get a gong for services to Indigenous Australians? I thought he knew about these things…
He’s been accused of both never turning up or if he did, to fall asleep and hence achieve little in the position.
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:Don’t go outside without a flamethrower.
It’s getting that way. So far only one paralysis tick, the rest are scrub ticks.
We get them here too. A lot of people are surprised by the ticks and leeches when they venture into the forests.
Most people fear forests and wish them to be laid bare.
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:Don’t go outside without a flamethrower.
It’s getting that way. So far only one paralysis tick, the rest are scrub ticks.
We get them here too. A lot of people are surprised by the ticks and leeches when they venture into the forests.
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:It’s getting that way. So far only one paralysis tick, the rest are scrub ticks.
We get them here too. A lot of people are surprised by the ticks and leeches when they venture into the forests.
All creatures, great and small.
Our blood attracts them all.
At least we exist for something.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-15/pension-payment-could-halve-july-because-covid-19-changes/12348612
Did you end up watching Aliens bubblecar?
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:It’s getting that way. So far only one paralysis tick, the rest are scrub ticks.
We get them here too. A lot of people are surprised by the ticks and leeches when they venture into the forests.
Most people fear forests and wish them to be laid bare.
Nonsense.
poikilotherm said:
Did you end up watching Aliens bubblecar?
I watched a big lump of it and will continue over the course of the week.
I tend to take my time with these tense films :)
(Also this is the director’s cut, which is quite long).
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:We get them here too. A lot of people are surprised by the ticks and leeches when they venture into the forests.
Most people fear forests and wish them to be laid bare.
Nonsense.
ref?
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:Most people fear forests and wish them to be laid bare.
Nonsense.
ref?
You need the ref, you’re making the statement.
roughbarked said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-15/pension-payment-could-halve-july-because-covid-19-changes/12348612
Poor linking. That is about superannuation pensions, not pensions in general. A bit of explanation would go a long way roughy.
Bubblecar said:
poikilotherm said:
Did you end up watching Aliens bubblecar?
I watched a big lump of it and will continue over the course of the week.
I tend to take my time with these tense films :)
(Also this is the director’s cut, which is quite long).
Nice. Quite liked that one. Can’t usually go wrong with Ridley Scott.
poikilotherm said:
Bubblecar said:
poikilotherm said:
Did you end up watching Aliens bubblecar?
I watched a big lump of it and will continue over the course of the week.
I tend to take my time with these tense films :)
(Also this is the director’s cut, which is quite long).
Nice. Quite liked that one. Can’t usually go wrong with Ridley Scott.
Actually Aliens was written and directed by James Cameron, but continues the paranoid atmosphere of the original.
Bubblecar said:
poikilotherm said:
Did you end up watching Aliens bubblecar?
I watched a big lump of it and will continue over the course of the week.
I tend to take my time with these tense films :)
(Also this is the director’s cut, which is quite long).
More like a director’s insert then?
Bubblecar said:
poikilotherm said:
Bubblecar said:I watched a big lump of it and will continue over the course of the week.
I tend to take my time with these tense films :)
(Also this is the director’s cut, which is quite long).
Nice. Quite liked that one. Can’t usually go wrong with Ridley Scott.
Actually Aliens was written and directed by James Cameron, but continues the paranoid atmosphere of the original.
Ah, always mix em up. Good too, mostly.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Bubblecar said:
poikilotherm said:
Did you end up watching Aliens bubblecar?
I watched a big lump of it and will continue over the course of the week.
I tend to take my time with these tense films :)
(Also this is the director’s cut, which is quite long).
More like a director’s insert then?
Yes.
Ridley Scott was perfectly happy with the original Alien film and actually preferred it to his “director’s cut”, which was only a few minutes longer, so I watched the original.
But James Cameron thinks his director’s version of the sequel is better than the commercial release, so I’m watching that.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:Most people fear forests and wish them to be laid bare.
Nonsense.
ref?
My assertion:
Most people do not fear forests.
Most people do not wish them laid bare.
We would not have National Parks, nor planted pseudo-forests in cities (called parks) if that were the case.
poikilotherm said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:Nonsense.
ref?
You need the ref, you’re making the statement.
Just look around you. Forests have to be protected from people and in many cases, governments.
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-15/pension-payment-could-halve-july-because-covid-19-changes/12348612
Poor linking. That is about superannuation pensions, not pensions in general. A bit of explanation would go a long way roughy.
Sorry. The headline was the problem there. Indeed I should have explained.
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-15/pension-payment-could-halve-july-because-covid-19-changes/12348612
Poor linking. That is about superannuation pensions, not pensions in general. A bit of explanation would go a long way roughy.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:Nonsense.
ref?
My assertion:
Most people do not fear forests.
Most people do not wish them laid bare.
We would not have National Parks, nor planted pseudo-forests in cities (called parks) if that were the case.
Everywhere, unless policed, people trash forests and national parks. Why have we cleared more in the past 20 years than since the first settlement?
roughbarked said:
poikilotherm said:
roughbarked said:ref?
You need the ref, you’re making the statement.
Just look around you. Forests have to be protected from people and in many cases, governments.
That’s not a ref, please try again.
poikilotherm said:
roughbarked said:
poikilotherm said:You need the ref, you’re making the statement.
Just look around you. Forests have to be protected from people and in many cases, governments.
That’s not a ref, please try again.
What I need to be told is, why they don’t fear forests.
I have just had a horrible fright.
My phone rang & as I answered it a message appeared for half a second. It said “Terrible news. Jane died” & it appeared to come from my neighbour whose wife is Jane.
Then the neighbour phoned & I fearfully answered it. All good, no one dead.
Checking back it was a message I’d sent to him informing him of MkIIs death last year. I’m still shaking.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:ref?
My assertion:
Most people do not fear forests.
Most people do not wish them laid bare.
We would not have National Parks, nor planted pseudo-forests in cities (called parks) if that were the case.
Everywhere, unless policed, people trash forests and national parks. Why have we cleared more in the past 20 years than since the first settlement?
I take issue with “most”, applied to “fear” and “laid bare”. “Some” or “a few” would be far more appropriate.
By the way, btm was asking after you yesterday, and sounded concerned about your lumps.
Tamb said:
I have just had a horrible fright.
My phone rang & as I answered it a message appeared for half a second. It said “Terrible news. Jane died” & it appeared to come from my neighbour whose wife is Jane.
Then the neighbour phoned & I fearfully answered it. All good, no one dead.
Checking back it was a message I’d sent to him informing him of MkIIs death last year. I’m still shaking.
Weird.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:My assertion:
Most people do not fear forests.
Most people do not wish them laid bare.
We would not have National Parks, nor planted pseudo-forests in cities (called parks) if that were the case.
Everywhere, unless policed, people trash forests and national parks. Why have we cleared more in the past 20 years than since the first settlement?
I take issue with “most”, applied to “fear” and “laid bare”. “Some” or “a few” would be far more appropriate.
By the way, btm was asking after you yesterday, and sounded concerned about your lumps.
most = more than 50%
Some or a few relates to those who have attempted to understand forests and make the links.
Tamb said:
I have just had a horrible fright.
My phone rang & as I answered it a message appeared for half a second. It said “Terrible news. Jane died” & it appeared to come from my neighbour whose wife is Jane.
Then the neighbour phoned & I fearfully answered it. All good, no one dead.
Checking back it was a message I’d sent to him informing him of MkIIs death last year. I’m still shaking.
Shit. Here, sit down and use your laughing gear to take some sips from this virtual:
c…o…f…f…e…e…
What a bugger. How did that happen?
Michael V said:
Tamb said:
I have just had a horrible fright.
My phone rang & as I answered it a message appeared for half a second. It said “Terrible news. Jane died” & it appeared to come from my neighbour whose wife is Jane.
Then the neighbour phoned & I fearfully answered it. All good, no one dead.
Checking back it was a message I’d sent to him informing him of MkIIs death last year. I’m still shaking.
Shit. Here, sit down and use your laughing gear to take some sips from this virtual:
c…o…f…f…e…e…
What a bugger. How did that happen?
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:Everywhere, unless policed, people trash forests and national parks. Why have we cleared more in the past 20 years than since the first settlement?
I take issue with “most”, applied to “fear” and “laid bare”. “Some” or “a few” would be far more appropriate.
By the way, btm was asking after you yesterday, and sounded concerned about your lumps.
most = more than 50%
Some or a few relates to those who have attempted to understand forests and make the links.
Your turn: provide a reference. You have made an extraordinary pair of claims.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:I take issue with “most”, applied to “fear” and “laid bare”. “Some” or “a few” would be far more appropriate.
By the way, btm was asking after you yesterday, and sounded concerned about your lumps.
most = more than 50%
Some or a few relates to those who have attempted to understand forests and make the links.
Your turn: provide a reference. You have made an extraordinary pair of claims.
All right I’ll make another one. Most forests have been decimated with very little attempt to comprehend them.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:most = more than 50%
Some or a few relates to those who have attempted to understand forests and make the links.
Your turn: provide a reference. You have made an extraordinary pair of claims.
All right I’ll make another one. Most forests have been decimated with very little attempt to comprehend them.
I take no issue with that statement.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:Your turn: provide a reference. You have made an extraordinary pair of claims.
All right I’ll make another one. Most forests have been decimated with very little attempt to comprehend them.
I take no issue with that statement.
Good but I’m still waiting for world wide protests about ‘forests matter’. It does relate to ‘I can’t breathe’.
Did btm make any comments about his worries re; lumps?
roughbarked said:
Did btm make any comments about his worries re; lumps?
Only wondering if anyone here had heard from you since you posted about going to the dr for lumps.
Divine Angel said:
roughbarked said:
Did btm make any comments about his worries re; lumps?
Only wondering if anyone here had heard from you since you posted about going to the dr for lumps.
OK. Well Mrs rb reacted alarmingly but that can be comprehended because she lives in constant fear of her lymphoma which is in remission.
The doctor showed me alarming photographs.
Nobody has given me a fully satisfactory answer with what is going on with my skin or what this is a result of.
yawn
who’s making me a coffee
transition said:
yawnwho’s making me a coffee
Perks up.

JudgeMental said:
LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Morning pilgrims., warmish and sunny in the Pearl of the South Specific.
So you made it out ok, pwm.
Greetings
The live media conference where Daniel Andrews is going to address the issue of Somurek branch stacking started 25 minutes ago – Andrews hasn’t shown up yet.
;-/
Posts are loading very slowly for me here at the moment. Then it will speed up for a bit, and then lag again. Is it just here, or are any of you having that?
buffy said:
Posts are loading very slowly for me here at the moment. Then it will speed up for a bit, and then lag again. Is it just here, or are any of you having that?
Looks OK here.
buffy said:
Posts are loading very slowly for me here at the moment. Then it will speed up for a bit, and then lag again. Is it just here, or are any of you having that?
all aok here.
Ian said:
I can’t remember seeing a bump on the nose of a 747. Is it normal?
roughbarked said:
OK. Well Mrs rb reacted alarmingly but that can be comprehended because she lives in constant fear of her lymphoma which is in remission.The doctor showed me alarming photographs.
Nobody has given me a fully satisfactory answer with what is going on with my skin or what this is a result of.
That sounds worrisome. What happens next?
buffy said:
Posts are loading very slowly for me here at the moment. Then it will speed up for a bit, and then lag again. Is it just here, or are any of you having that?
Rule 303 said:
roughbarked said:
OK. Well Mrs rb reacted alarmingly but that can be comprehended because she lives in constant fear of her lymphoma which is in remission.The doctor showed me alarming photographs.
Nobody has given me a fully satisfactory answer with what is going on with my skin or what this is a result of.
That sounds worrisome. What happens next?
Amputation.

Rule 303 said:
roughbarked said:
OK. Well Mrs rb reacted alarmingly but that can be comprehended because she lives in constant fear of her lymphoma which is in remission.The doctor showed me alarming photographs.
Nobody has given me a fully satisfactory answer with what is going on with my skin or what this is a result of.
That sounds worrisome. What happens next?
Probably have to start really looking after myself for a change?
I’m thinking about precedent. It seems to me that sometimes it is just accumulated bad practice. In the recent Atlanta shooting, the lawyer of the perp indicated that he thought there would not be a murder charge because there had not been murder charges in other similar homicides by police.
buffy said:
Posts are loading very slowly for me here at the moment. Then it will speed up for a bit, and then lag again. Is it just here, or are any of you having that?
OK here.
roughbarked said:
Rule 303 said:
roughbarked said:
OK. Well Mrs rb reacted alarmingly but that can be comprehended because she lives in constant fear of her lymphoma which is in remission.The doctor showed me alarming photographs.
Nobody has given me a fully satisfactory answer with what is going on with my skin or what this is a result of.
That sounds worrisome. What happens next?
Probably have to start really looking after myself for a change?
I mean what is the plan of action, from your medicoes?
dv said:
Seriously he’s in total control and is getting full suppport from the Nationals. I heard him say it on TV just now.
Support Aussie CopsLike Page
tS24potSSen mdOcsotemobedrShesdor 2f018uu ·
It’s not the police who need to be retrained, it’s the public. We have grown into a mouthy, mobile phone wielding, vulgar, uncivil society with no personal responsibility and the attitude of ‘it’s the other person’s fault’, ‘you owe me’. A society where children grow up with no boundaries or knowledge or concern for civil society and personal responsibility.
When an officer says “Put your hands up,” then put your hands up! Don’t reach for something in your pocket, your lap, your seat. There’s plenty of reason for a police officer to feel threatened, there have been multiple assaults and ambushes on police officers lately. Comply with requests from the officer, have your day in court. Don’t mouth off, or fight, or refuse to comply… that escalates the situation.
Police officers are our sons and daughters, fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters. They’re black, white, brown, all colours, all ethnicities, all faiths, male and female, they are us. They see the worst side of humanity… the raped children, the bloody mangled bodies of traffic victims, the bruised and battered victims of domestic violence, homicide victims, body parts… day after day.
They work holidays while we have festive meals with our families. They miss school events with their kids, birthdays, anniversaries, all those special occasions that we take for granted. They work in all types of weather, under dangerous conditions, for relatively low pay.
They have extensive training, but they are human. When there are numerous attacks on them, they become hyper vigilant for a reason, they have become targets. When a police officer encounters any person… any person, whether at a traffic stop, a street confrontation, an arrest, whatever… that situation has the potential to become life threatening. You, Mr & Mrs/Miss Civilian, also have the responsibility of keeping the situation from getting out of control.
Many law enforcement officers are Veterans. They’ve been in service to this nation most of their lives, whether on the battlefield or protecting us here at home. They are the only thing that stands between us and anarchy in the streets.
If you want to protect your child, teach them respect.
-Author unknown
sibeen said:
So you made it out ok, pwm.
Yeah, the back way through two other properties, it wasn’t too bad or as bad as I’d imagined.
Tamb said:
Ian said:
I can’t remember seeing a bump on the nose of a 747. Is it normal?
Nothing is normal in that photo.
Peak Warming Man said:
sibeen said:
So you made it out ok, pwm.
Yeah, the back way through two other properties, it wasn’t too bad or as bad as I’d imagined.
any videos up on youtube?
Tamb said:
Ian said:
I can’t remember seeing a bump on the nose of a 747. Is it normal?
Usually the fuel tank cap.. although Trump’s had his planes modified for extra special sauce.
Rule 303 said:
roughbarked said:
Rule 303 said:That sounds worrisome. What happens next?
Probably have to start really looking after myself for a change?
I mean what is the plan of action, from your medicoes?
Only asked the one medico about the armpit. Though she shook her head when I asked could it be in relation to my questions; is it related to my infected hand? or a result of the antibiotics?
Said it was a type of folliculitis and showed me photos of really horrific examples.
I’ll be asking her about cortisoids next week because she wants to see me again.
She gave me a topical acne treatment. ClindaTech Clindamycin Hydrochloride.
As for the skin falling off the palms of my hands, she gave me a Fatty ointment Methylpredisolone aceponate.
Tamb said:
Ian said:
I can’t remember seeing a bump on the nose of a 747. Is it normal?
probably only on airforce 1. it is a refuelling nozzle.
JudgeMental said:
Peak Warming Man said:
sibeen said:
So you made it out ok, pwm.
Yeah, the back way through two other properties, it wasn’t too bad or as bad as I’d imagined.
any videos up on youtube?
Probably.
JudgeMental said:
Support Aussie CopsLike Page
tS24potSSen mdOcsotemobedrShesdor 2f018uu ·
It’s not the police who need to be retrained, it’s the public. We have grown into a mouthy, mobile phone wielding, vulgar, uncivil society with no personal responsibility and the attitude of ‘it’s the other person’s fault’, ‘you owe me’. A society where children grow up with no boundaries or knowledge or concern for civil society and personal responsibility.When an officer says “Put your hands up,” then put your hands up! Don’t reach for something in your pocket, your lap, your seat. There’s plenty of reason for a police officer to feel threatened, there have been multiple assaults and ambushes on police officers lately. Comply with requests from the officer, have your day in court. Don’t mouth off, or fight, or refuse to comply… that escalates the situation.
Police officers are our sons and daughters, fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters. They’re black, white, brown, all colours, all ethnicities, all faiths, male and female, they are us. They see the worst side of humanity… the raped children, the bloody mangled bodies of traffic victims, the bruised and battered victims of domestic violence, homicide victims, body parts… day after day.
They work holidays while we have festive meals with our families. They miss school events with their kids, birthdays, anniversaries, all those special occasions that we take for granted. They work in all types of weather, under dangerous conditions, for relatively low pay.
They have extensive training, but they are human. When there are numerous attacks on them, they become hyper vigilant for a reason, they have become targets. When a police officer encounters any person… any person, whether at a traffic stop, a street confrontation, an arrest, whatever… that situation has the potential to become life threatening. You, Mr & Mrs/Miss Civilian, also have the responsibility of keeping the situation from getting out of control.
Many law enforcement officers are Veterans. They’ve been in service to this nation most of their lives, whether on the battlefield or protecting us here at home. They are the only thing that stands between us and anarchy in the streets.
If you want to protect your child, teach them respect.
-Author unknown
half full of bullshit that is, the sentiment’s perhaps well intentioned though
JudgeMental said:
Tamb said:
Ian said:
I can’t remember seeing a bump on the nose of a 747. Is it normal?
probably only on airforce 1. it is a refuelling nozzle.

Peak Warming Man said:
JudgeMental said:
Peak Warming Man said:Yeah, the back way through two other properties, it wasn’t too bad or as bad as I’d imagined.
any videos up on youtube?
Probably.
well????
JudgeMental said:
JudgeMental said:
Tamb said:I can’t remember seeing a bump on the nose of a 747. Is it normal?
probably only on airforce 1. it is a refuelling nozzle.
It’s where they load the chemtrails.
Hey Arts, you might be interested in this:
https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B086Z123MP?_bbid=16174957
JudgeMental said:
Support Aussie CopsLike Page
tS24potSSen mdOcsotemobedrShesdor 2f018uu ·
It’s not the police who need to be retrained, it’s the public. We have grown into a mouthy, mobile phone wielding, vulgar, uncivil society with no personal responsibility and the attitude of ‘it’s the other person’s fault’, ‘you owe me’. A society where children grow up with no boundaries or knowledge or concern for civil society and personal responsibility.When an officer says “Put your hands up,” then put your hands up! Don’t reach for something in your pocket, your lap, your seat. There’s plenty of reason for a police officer to feel threatened, there have been multiple assaults and ambushes on police officers lately. Comply with requests from the officer, have your day in court. Don’t mouth off, or fight, or refuse to comply… that escalates the situation.
Police officers are our sons and daughters, fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters. They’re black, white, brown, all colours, all ethnicities, all faiths, male and female, they are us. They see the worst side of humanity… the raped children, the bloody mangled bodies of traffic victims, the bruised and battered victims of domestic violence, homicide victims, body parts… day after day.
They work holidays while we have festive meals with our families. They miss school events with their kids, birthdays, anniversaries, all those special occasions that we take for granted. They work in all types of weather, under dangerous conditions, for relatively low pay.
They have extensive training, but they are human. When there are numerous attacks on them, they become hyper vigilant for a reason, they have become targets. When a police officer encounters any person… any person, whether at a traffic stop, a street confrontation, an arrest, whatever… that situation has the potential to become life threatening. You, Mr & Mrs/Miss Civilian, also have the responsibility of keeping the situation from getting out of control.
Many law enforcement officers are Veterans. They’ve been in service to this nation most of their lives, whether on the battlefield or protecting us here at home. They are the only thing that stands between us and anarchy in the streets.
If you want to protect your child, teach them respect.
-Author unknown
To be fair, kicking the feet out from under a lippy teenager is hardly going to teach that kid respect, either.
Michael V said:
JudgeMental said:
Support Aussie CopsLike Page
tS24potSSen mdOcsotemobedrShesdor 2f018uu ·
It’s not the police who need to be retrained, it’s the public. We have grown into a mouthy, mobile phone wielding, vulgar, uncivil society with no personal responsibility and the attitude of ‘it’s the other person’s fault’, ‘you owe me’. A society where children grow up with no boundaries or knowledge or concern for civil society and personal responsibility.When an officer says “Put your hands up,” then put your hands up! Don’t reach for something in your pocket, your lap, your seat. There’s plenty of reason for a police officer to feel threatened, there have been multiple assaults and ambushes on police officers lately. Comply with requests from the officer, have your day in court. Don’t mouth off, or fight, or refuse to comply… that escalates the situation.
Police officers are our sons and daughters, fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters. They’re black, white, brown, all colours, all ethnicities, all faiths, male and female, they are us. They see the worst side of humanity… the raped children, the bloody mangled bodies of traffic victims, the bruised and battered victims of domestic violence, homicide victims, body parts… day after day.
They work holidays while we have festive meals with our families. They miss school events with their kids, birthdays, anniversaries, all those special occasions that we take for granted. They work in all types of weather, under dangerous conditions, for relatively low pay.
They have extensive training, but they are human. When there are numerous attacks on them, they become hyper vigilant for a reason, they have become targets. When a police officer encounters any person… any person, whether at a traffic stop, a street confrontation, an arrest, whatever… that situation has the potential to become life threatening. You, Mr & Mrs/Miss Civilian, also have the responsibility of keeping the situation from getting out of control.
Many law enforcement officers are Veterans. They’ve been in service to this nation most of their lives, whether on the battlefield or protecting us here at home. They are the only thing that stands between us and anarchy in the streets.
If you want to protect your child, teach them respect.
-Author unknown
To be fair, kicking the feet out from under a lippy teenager is hardly going to teach that kid respect, either.
plus i would say this is a US piece reposted to an aussie site.
JudgeMental said:
Peak Warming Man said:
JudgeMental said:any videos up on youtube?
Probably.
well????
No my little canon does do video but I’ve never tried using it.
However my tablet does video so I’ll have a play with it and see what I can record, it’s very good battery wise and can be charged from a cigarette lighter.
Then I’ll investigate what you have to do to upload something to YouTube, just for you.
Divine Angel said:
Hey Arts, you might be interested in this:
https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B086Z123MP?_bbid=16174957
Thank you
Michael V said:
JudgeMental said:
Support Aussie CopsLike Page
tS24potSSen mdOcsotemobedrShesdor 2f018uu ·
It’s not the police who need to be retrained, it’s the public. We have grown into a mouthy, mobile phone wielding, vulgar, uncivil society with no personal responsibility and the attitude of ‘it’s the other person’s fault’, ‘you owe me’. A society where children grow up with no boundaries or knowledge or concern for civil society and personal responsibility.When an officer says “Put your hands up,” then put your hands up! Don’t reach for something in your pocket, your lap, your seat. There’s plenty of reason for a police officer to feel threatened, there have been multiple assaults and ambushes on police officers lately. Comply with requests from the officer, have your day in court. Don’t mouth off, or fight, or refuse to comply… that escalates the situation.
Police officers are our sons and daughters, fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters. They’re black, white, brown, all colours, all ethnicities, all faiths, male and female, they are us. They see the worst side of humanity… the raped children, the bloody mangled bodies of traffic victims, the bruised and battered victims of domestic violence, homicide victims, body parts… day after day.
They work holidays while we have festive meals with our families. They miss school events with their kids, birthdays, anniversaries, all those special occasions that we take for granted. They work in all types of weather, under dangerous conditions, for relatively low pay.
They have extensive training, but they are human. When there are numerous attacks on them, they become hyper vigilant for a reason, they have become targets. When a police officer encounters any person… any person, whether at a traffic stop, a street confrontation, an arrest, whatever… that situation has the potential to become life threatening. You, Mr & Mrs/Miss Civilian, also have the responsibility of keeping the situation from getting out of control.
Many law enforcement officers are Veterans. They’ve been in service to this nation most of their lives, whether on the battlefield or protecting us here at home. They are the only thing that stands between us and anarchy in the streets.
If you want to protect your child, teach them respect.
-Author unknown
To be fair, kicking the feet out from under a lippy teenager is hardly going to teach that kid respect, either.
Strongly suspect a US source for this.
JudgeMental said:
buffy said:
Posts are loading very slowly for me here at the moment. Then it will speed up for a bit, and then lag again. Is it just here, or are any of you having that?all aok here.
Thanks, it seems to be OK on Mr buffy’s computer. And sending a document to the printer is also slow. So I can’t blame the tower on Mt Rouse. I’ll turn my computer off and then on again and see if that fixes it. After this printer decides to do its thing.
JudgeMental said:
Michael V said:
JudgeMental said:
Support Aussie CopsLike Page
tS24potSSen mdOcsotemobedrShesdor 2f018uu ·
It’s not the police who need to be retrained, it’s the public. We have grown into a mouthy, mobile phone wielding, vulgar, uncivil society with no personal responsibility and the attitude of ‘it’s the other person’s fault’, ‘you owe me’. A society where children grow up with no boundaries or knowledge or concern for civil society and personal responsibility.When an officer says “Put your hands up,” then put your hands up! Don’t reach for something in your pocket, your lap, your seat. There’s plenty of reason for a police officer to feel threatened, there have been multiple assaults and ambushes on police officers lately. Comply with requests from the officer, have your day in court. Don’t mouth off, or fight, or refuse to comply… that escalates the situation.
Police officers are our sons and daughters, fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters. They’re black, white, brown, all colours, all ethnicities, all faiths, male and female, they are us. They see the worst side of humanity… the raped children, the bloody mangled bodies of traffic victims, the bruised and battered victims of domestic violence, homicide victims, body parts… day after day.
They work holidays while we have festive meals with our families. They miss school events with their kids, birthdays, anniversaries, all those special occasions that we take for granted. They work in all types of weather, under dangerous conditions, for relatively low pay.
They have extensive training, but they are human. When there are numerous attacks on them, they become hyper vigilant for a reason, they have become targets. When a police officer encounters any person… any person, whether at a traffic stop, a street confrontation, an arrest, whatever… that situation has the potential to become life threatening. You, Mr & Mrs/Miss Civilian, also have the responsibility of keeping the situation from getting out of control.
Many law enforcement officers are Veterans. They’ve been in service to this nation most of their lives, whether on the battlefield or protecting us here at home. They are the only thing that stands between us and anarchy in the streets.
If you want to protect your child, teach them respect.
-Author unknown
To be fair, kicking the feet out from under a lippy teenager is hardly going to teach that kid respect, either.
plus i would say this is a US piece reposted to an aussie site.
No one says “fuck the firemen”. In an aggressive manner.
Michael V said:
JudgeMental said:
Support Aussie CopsLike Page
tS24potSSen mdOcsotemobedrShesdor 2f018uu ·
It’s not the police who need to be retrained, it’s the public. We have grown into a mouthy, mobile phone wielding, vulgar, uncivil society with no personal responsibility and the attitude of ‘it’s the other person’s fault’, ‘you owe me’. A society where children grow up with no boundaries or knowledge or concern for civil society and personal responsibility.When an officer says “Put your hands up,” then put your hands up! Don’t reach for something in your pocket, your lap, your seat. There’s plenty of reason for a police officer to feel threatened, there have been multiple assaults and ambushes on police officers lately. Comply with requests from the officer, have your day in court. Don’t mouth off, or fight, or refuse to comply… that escalates the situation.
Police officers are our sons and daughters, fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters. They’re black, white, brown, all colours, all ethnicities, all faiths, male and female, they are us. They see the worst side of humanity… the raped children, the bloody mangled bodies of traffic victims, the bruised and battered victims of domestic violence, homicide victims, body parts… day after day.
They work holidays while we have festive meals with our families. They miss school events with their kids, birthdays, anniversaries, all those special occasions that we take for granted. They work in all types of weather, under dangerous conditions, for relatively low pay.
They have extensive training, but they are human. When there are numerous attacks on them, they become hyper vigilant for a reason, they have become targets. When a police officer encounters any person… any person, whether at a traffic stop, a street confrontation, an arrest, whatever… that situation has the potential to become life threatening. You, Mr & Mrs/Miss Civilian, also have the responsibility of keeping the situation from getting out of control.
Many law enforcement officers are Veterans. They’ve been in service to this nation most of their lives, whether on the battlefield or protecting us here at home. They are the only thing that stands between us and anarchy in the streets.
If you want to protect your child, teach them respect.
-Author unknown
To be fair, kicking the feet out from under a lippy teenager is hardly going to teach that kid respect, either.
My mum got one of those class action letters And was all worried about what to do… thanks to the information on this forum I was able to tell her not to worry and do nothing. I also read the letter but it was the initial knowledge that allowed a calmer response to her.
Give yourselves a pat on the back.
Arts said:
My mum got one of those class action letters And was all worried about what to do… thanks to the information on this forum I was able to tell her not to worry and do nothing. I also read the letter but it was the initial knowledge that allowed a calmer response to her.Give yourselves a pat on the back.
No worries.
Arts said:
My mum got one of those class action letters And was all worried about what to do… thanks to the information on this forum I was able to tell her not to worry and do nothing. I also read the letter but it was the initial knowledge that allowed a calmer response to her.Give yourselves a pat on the back.
:) The legalese says you don’t have to actually do anything but do infer that it may help them if you do register, without saying if it will really.
Arts said:
JudgeMental said:
Michael V said:To be fair, kicking the feet out from under a lippy teenager is hardly going to teach that kid respect, either.
plus i would say this is a US piece reposted to an aussie site.
No one says “fuck the firemen”. In an aggressive manner.
It doesn’t matter if it is US or Australian source. Our police are apparently more carefully recruited than in the US and I understand do considerably more training. But pretty much all of the quote applies to ours too. Yes, I’m touchy about this. Because a lot of it applies also to the ambos. And I know many police/ambos who have PTSD and a number who have suicided. Hypervigilance is not a good way to live your life. I appreciate that there are individuals prepared to do that work. I couldn’t do it.
Arts said:
JudgeMental said:
Michael V said:To be fair, kicking the feet out from under a lippy teenager is hardly going to teach that kid respect, either.
plus i would say this is a US piece reposted to an aussie site.
No one says “fuck the firemen”. In an aggressive manner.
Heh.
I’ve seen Firemen do some pretty bad shit. Like… Wildly inappropriate, gross misconduct, and stupid shit. Perhaps the difference is that the public don’t know?
buffy said:
Arts said:
JudgeMental said:plus i would say this is a US piece reposted to an aussie site.
No one says “fuck the firemen”. In an aggressive manner.
It doesn’t matter if it is US or Australian source. Our police are apparently more carefully recruited than in the US and I understand do considerably more training. But pretty much all of the quote applies to ours too. Yes, I’m touchy about this. Because a lot of it applies also to the ambos. And I know many police/ambos who have PTSD and a number who have suicided. Hypervigilance is not a good way to live your life. I appreciate that there are individuals prepared to do that work. I couldn’t do it.
True. They are both difficult jobs to do.
buffy said:
Arts said:
JudgeMental said:plus i would say this is a US piece reposted to an aussie site.
No one says “fuck the firemen”. In an aggressive manner.
It doesn’t matter if it is US or Australian source. Our police are apparently more carefully recruited than in the US and I understand do considerably more training. But pretty much all of the quote applies to ours too. Yes, I’m touchy about this. Because a lot of it applies also to the ambos. And I know many police/ambos who have PTSD and a number who have suicided. Hypervigilance is not a good way to live your life. I appreciate that there are individuals prepared to do that work. I couldn’t do it.
I don’t believe it is a matter of the amount of training more to do with the type f training. warrior kind isn’t it. How many hours do they spend on firearm drill and shooting ranges? Kettling, strip search of under age people, random use of pepper spray etc, shows that training is lacking.
JudgeMental said:
buffy said:
Arts said:No one says “fuck the firemen”. In an aggressive manner.
It doesn’t matter if it is US or Australian source. Our police are apparently more carefully recruited than in the US and I understand do considerably more training. But pretty much all of the quote applies to ours too. Yes, I’m touchy about this. Because a lot of it applies also to the ambos. And I know many police/ambos who have PTSD and a number who have suicided. Hypervigilance is not a good way to live your life. I appreciate that there are individuals prepared to do that work. I couldn’t do it.
I don’t believe it is a matter of the amount of training more to do with the type f training. warrior kind isn’t it. How many hours do they spend on firearm drill and shooting ranges? Kettling, strip search of under age people, random use of pepper spray etc, shows that training is lacking.
is the answer to psychopathy more training though
Ah, there you are. Back to normal. Just a turn off and turn on again thing. The networking must not have hooked in properly. Or something.
Rule 303 said:
Michael V said:
JudgeMental said:
Support Aussie CopsLike Page
tS24potSSen mdOcsotemobedrShesdor 2f018uu ·
It’s not the police who need to be retrained, it’s the public. We have grown into a mouthy, mobile phone wielding, vulgar, uncivil society with no personal responsibility and the attitude of ‘it’s the other person’s fault’, ‘you owe me’. A society where children grow up with no boundaries or knowledge or concern for civil society and personal responsibility.When an officer says “Put your hands up,” then put your hands up! Don’t reach for something in your pocket, your lap, your seat. There’s plenty of reason for a police officer to feel threatened, there have been multiple assaults and ambushes on police officers lately. Comply with requests from the officer, have your day in court. Don’t mouth off, or fight, or refuse to comply… that escalates the situation.
Police officers are our sons and daughters, fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters. They’re black, white, brown, all colours, all ethnicities, all faiths, male and female, they are us. They see the worst side of humanity… the raped children, the bloody mangled bodies of traffic victims, the bruised and battered victims of domestic violence, homicide victims, body parts… day after day.
They work holidays while we have festive meals with our families. They miss school events with their kids, birthdays, anniversaries, all those special occasions that we take for granted. They work in all types of weather, under dangerous conditions, for relatively low pay.
They have extensive training, but they are human. When there are numerous attacks on them, they become hyper vigilant for a reason, they have become targets. When a police officer encounters any person… any person, whether at a traffic stop, a street confrontation, an arrest, whatever… that situation has the potential to become life threatening. You, Mr & Mrs/Miss Civilian, also have the responsibility of keeping the situation from getting out of control.
Many law enforcement officers are Veterans. They’ve been in service to this nation most of their lives, whether on the battlefield or protecting us here at home. They are the only thing that stands between us and anarchy in the streets.
If you want to protect your child, teach them respect.
-Author unknown
To be fair, kicking the feet out from under a lippy teenager is hardly going to teach that kid respect, either.
Strongly suspect a US source for this.
or USSR given all their bots
SCIENCE said:
JudgeMental said:
buffy said:It doesn’t matter if it is US or Australian source. Our police are apparently more carefully recruited than in the US and I understand do considerably more training. But pretty much all of the quote applies to ours too. Yes, I’m touchy about this. Because a lot of it applies also to the ambos. And I know many police/ambos who have PTSD and a number who have suicided. Hypervigilance is not a good way to live your life. I appreciate that there are individuals prepared to do that work. I couldn’t do it.
I don’t believe it is a matter of the amount of training more to do with the type f training. warrior kind isn’t it. How many hours do they spend on firearm drill and shooting ranges? Kettling, strip search of under age people, random use of pepper spray etc, shows that training is lacking.
is the answer to psychopathy more training though
Yes, of the people responsible for recruitment.
Rule 303 said:
SCIENCE said:
JudgeMental said:I don’t believe it is a matter of the amount of training more to do with the type f training. warrior kind isn’t it. How many hours do they spend on firearm drill and shooting ranges? Kettling, strip search of under age people, random use of pepper spray etc, shows that training is lacking.
is the answer to psychopathy more training though
Yes, of the people responsible for recruitment.
I agree. weed em out before they get in.
Rule 303 said:
SCIENCE said:
JudgeMental said:I don’t believe it is a matter of the amount of training more to do with the type f training. warrior kind isn’t it. How many hours do they spend on firearm drill and shooting ranges? Kettling, strip search of under age people, random use of pepper spray etc, shows that training is lacking.
is the answer to psychopathy more training though
Yes, of the people responsible for recruitment.
I think fire NSW has been doing this recently, the recruitment process seems to be selecting vastly different personalities to be fire fighters than previously…so im told anyway.
JudgeMental said:
Rule 303 said:
SCIENCE said:is the answer to psychopathy more training though
Yes, of the people responsible for recruitment.
I agree. weed em out before they get in.
we discussed this at great length in class once. There was a senior officer who was presenting and he said that typically police applicants are the ones who ‘want action’. this was said in the context of discussing community policing, and how difficult it is to find officers who want to take on community policing, because of this expectation that policing is all about chasing down bad guys (The ads for police recruitment do not help this idea). Clearly, it would be a great start to create recruitment ads that show the side of policing that is most practiced, but filling out paperwork and engaging with the public in a non-combative manner does not make for great advertising, I guess..
Arts said:
JudgeMental said:
Rule 303 said:Yes, of the people responsible for recruitment.
I agree. weed em out before they get in.
we discussed this at great length in class once. There was a senior officer who was presenting and he said that typically police applicants are the ones who ‘want action’. this was said in the context of discussing community policing, and how difficult it is to find officers who want to take on community policing, because of this expectation that policing is all about chasing down bad guys (The ads for police recruitment do not help this idea). Clearly, it would be a great start to create recruitment ads that show the side of policing that is most practiced, but filling out paperwork and engaging with the public in a non-combative manner does not make for great advertising, I guess..
I wonder how a paramedic ad would go if done along police recruitment lines?
:-)
Arts said:
JudgeMental said:
Rule 303 said:Yes, of the people responsible for recruitment.
I agree. weed em out before they get in.
we discussed this at great length in class once. There was a senior officer who was presenting and he said that typically police applicants are the ones who ‘want action’. this was said in the context of discussing community policing, and how difficult it is to find officers who want to take on community policing, because of this expectation that policing is all about chasing down bad guys (The ads for police recruitment do not help this idea). Clearly, it would be a great start to create recruitment ads that show the side of policing that is most practiced, but filling out paperwork and engaging with the public in a non-combative manner does not make for great advertising, I guess..
We have just lost our wonderful young policeman to another town. He wanted a promotion. He was really, really good at just fitting in to the community. We are a one policeman/woman town. Most people knew him. He wasn’t averse to handing out deserved speeding tickets or checking the drunks. Our previous guy had already trained the local drunks to walk home from the pub. Because of his style, he got information without asking for it. Slowly, slowly, collect the info and then bust the drug dealers. I hope we get someone equally as good.
Arts said:
JudgeMental said:
Rule 303 said:Yes, of the people responsible for recruitment.
I agree. weed em out before they get in.
we discussed this at great length in class once. There was a senior officer who was presenting and he said that typically police applicants are the ones who ‘want action’. this was said in the context of discussing community policing, and how difficult it is to find officers who want to take on community policing, because of this expectation that policing is all about chasing down bad guys (The ads for police recruitment do not help this idea). Clearly, it would be a great start to create recruitment ads that show the side of policing that is most practiced, but filling out paperwork and engaging with the public in a non-combative manner does not make for great advertising, I guess..
In Vic they seem to weed out quite a few at the Psych interview stage, which is very difficult for the unsuccessful candidates because the Psych people don’t give them any feedback about why they were considered not suitable. Passing or failing the other testing (Language, literacy, numeracy, learning, fitness, background etc ) is much easier to explain.
Rule 303 said:
Arts said:
JudgeMental said:I agree. weed em out before they get in.
we discussed this at great length in class once. There was a senior officer who was presenting and he said that typically police applicants are the ones who ‘want action’. this was said in the context of discussing community policing, and how difficult it is to find officers who want to take on community policing, because of this expectation that policing is all about chasing down bad guys (The ads for police recruitment do not help this idea). Clearly, it would be a great start to create recruitment ads that show the side of policing that is most practiced, but filling out paperwork and engaging with the public in a non-combative manner does not make for great advertising, I guess..
In Vic they seem to weed out quite a few at the Psych interview stage, which is very difficult for the unsuccessful candidates because the Psych people don’t give them any feedback about why they were considered not suitable. Passing or failing the other testing (Language, literacy, numeracy, learning, fitness, background etc ) is much easier to explain.
It shouldn’t be too hard to give sanitized psych feedback. Simply suggesting other careers which would be more suitable to what your psych testing suggests. or something.
buffy said:
Arts said:
JudgeMental said:I agree. weed em out before they get in.
we discussed this at great length in class once. There was a senior officer who was presenting and he said that typically police applicants are the ones who ‘want action’. this was said in the context of discussing community policing, and how difficult it is to find officers who want to take on community policing, because of this expectation that policing is all about chasing down bad guys (The ads for police recruitment do not help this idea). Clearly, it would be a great start to create recruitment ads that show the side of policing that is most practiced, but filling out paperwork and engaging with the public in a non-combative manner does not make for great advertising, I guess..
We have just lost our wonderful young policeman to another town. He wanted a promotion. He was really, really good at just fitting in to the community. We are a one policeman/woman town. Most people knew him. He wasn’t averse to handing out deserved speeding tickets or checking the drunks. Our previous guy had already trained the local drunks to walk home from the pub. Because of his style, he got information without asking for it. Slowly, slowly, collect the info and then bust the drug dealers. I hope we get someone equally as good.
>nods<
I’m sure the successful country town cops have a distinct personality type. I have known three (Kilmore, Sorrento, Clunes) who are very effective, but also very well liked in their communities.
I don’t really think the psych tests are that great… too many variables and far too short to assess properly over any period of time.
Rule 303 said:
buffy said:
Arts said:we discussed this at great length in class once. There was a senior officer who was presenting and he said that typically police applicants are the ones who ‘want action’. this was said in the context of discussing community policing, and how difficult it is to find officers who want to take on community policing, because of this expectation that policing is all about chasing down bad guys (The ads for police recruitment do not help this idea). Clearly, it would be a great start to create recruitment ads that show the side of policing that is most practiced, but filling out paperwork and engaging with the public in a non-combative manner does not make for great advertising, I guess..
We have just lost our wonderful young policeman to another town. He wanted a promotion. He was really, really good at just fitting in to the community. We are a one policeman/woman town. Most people knew him. He wasn’t averse to handing out deserved speeding tickets or checking the drunks. Our previous guy had already trained the local drunks to walk home from the pub. Because of his style, he got information without asking for it. Slowly, slowly, collect the info and then bust the drug dealers. I hope we get someone equally as good.
>nods<
I’m sure the successful country town cops have a distinct personality type. I have known three (Kilmore, Sorrento, Clunes) who are very effective, but also very well liked in their communities.
buffy said:
Rule 303 said:
Arts said:we discussed this at great length in class once. There was a senior officer who was presenting and he said that typically police applicants are the ones who ‘want action’. this was said in the context of discussing community policing, and how difficult it is to find officers who want to take on community policing, because of this expectation that policing is all about chasing down bad guys (The ads for police recruitment do not help this idea). Clearly, it would be a great start to create recruitment ads that show the side of policing that is most practiced, but filling out paperwork and engaging with the public in a non-combative manner does not make for great advertising, I guess..
In Vic they seem to weed out quite a few at the Psych interview stage, which is very difficult for the unsuccessful candidates because the Psych people don’t give them any feedback about why they were considered not suitable. Passing or failing the other testing (Language, literacy, numeracy, learning, fitness, background etc ) is much easier to explain.
It shouldn’t be too hard to give sanitized psych feedback. Simply suggesting other careers which would be more suitable to what your psych testing suggests. or something.
I fear they would be immediately and forever bogged down in appeals and other legal actions. No Psych would touch the job with a barge pole. The organisation would have to divert very significant resources to the section.
I’ve seen a couple of cases where government Psychs have made recommendations / reports that affected emergency people and the bloody things go thermo-nuclear in the blink of an eye.
Rule 303 said:
buffy said:
Rule 303 said:In Vic they seem to weed out quite a few at the Psych interview stage, which is very difficult for the unsuccessful candidates because the Psych people don’t give them any feedback about why they were considered not suitable. Passing or failing the other testing (Language, literacy, numeracy, learning, fitness, background etc ) is much easier to explain.
It shouldn’t be too hard to give sanitized psych feedback. Simply suggesting other careers which would be more suitable to what your psych testing suggests. or something.
I fear they would be immediately and forever bogged down in appeals and other legal actions. No Psych would touch the job with a barge pole. The organisation would have to divert very significant resources to the section.
I’ve seen a couple of cases where government Psychs have made recommendations / reports that affected emergency people and the bloody things go thermo-nuclear in the blink of an eye.
Tell them to join well regulated militias.
Arts said:
I don’t really think the psych tests are that great… too many variables and far too short to assess properly over any period of time.
And people like me can perform well in those tests.
I’m off outside to do some more digging. I need to tidy up where I did the emergency trenching last night when the downpipe was blocked. I’ve been up the ladder this morning and finished clearing it out. Now to put things to rights on the ground and actually finish the swale arrangement I kept intending to sort out and didn’t.
This has gone past me twice on Facebook today. It seems to be making people feel okay about aboriginals and history. But It does seem to be missing.
Jacinta Nampijinpa Price
11 June at 23:00 ·
Given we are continually being denigrated as a nation and bombarded by accusations of racism and bigotry, I felt it wasn’t only necessary to defend my home and the country I love but to also provide the overwhelming evidence that demonstrates these accusations are lies. If we can’t have pride in our own nation how are we expected to evolve successfully? If we keep telling a particular demographic they are victims of others of a certain skin colour we are effectively removing that demographic’s agency and that, to me, is completely un-Australian.
Here is a list of our nation’s achievements toward Aboriginal Australia and dare I say there’s very likely a whole lot that I have missed but we have to start somewhere right?
1856 – In South Australia all Men including Aboriginal Men were given the right to vote.
1896 – In South Australia all Women including Aboriginal Women were given the right to vote, 32 years before Women in England were given that right.
1948 – It is not well understood but no one in Australia was an Australian Citizen up until this year. We were regarded as British Subjects until the Citizenship Act was passed. Citizenship Rights were being extended to Aboriginal Australians gradually throughout the 1950’s and 1960’s by Coalition Governments’.
1962 – Aboriginal Australians were granted the Right to Vote by a Coalition Government.
1964 – Aboriginal Australians were virtually granted full Citizenship Rights under a Coalition Government when the Aboriginal Ordinance was repealed.
1967 – The Referendum went through with overwhelming support of well over 90% of Australians voting to allow Aboriginal Australians to be included in the Census and for Aboriginal Affairs to become a Commonwealth responsibility. Another successful Coalition Government initiative.
1968 – The Equal Pay decision was applied by a Coalition Government.
1970 – A state Coalition Government in Victoria handed back the Lake Tyers reserve to the Aboriginal community.
1971 – Senator Neville Bonner, a Liberal, became our first Aboriginal Parliamentarian. Since then there have been 43 Aboriginal MP’s throughout state and federal Parliaments in Australia. To add to this 8 MP’s have recorded Aboriginal Ancestry but have not been identified as Aboriginal. The Northern Territory gave us the first and only Government, at any level, led by an Indigenous Australian. This is not widely known or celebrated because Chief Minister Adam Giles was with the Country Liberal Party.
1976 – The NT Land Rights Act was passed by a Coalition Government. Under this Act around 45% of the land and 80% of the coastline of the NT has been handed back to traditional owners, I’m one of them.
1992 – The High Court overturned the Principal of Terra Nullius with the Mabo Decision.
1993 – A Labor Government passed the Native Title Act.
In Australia today we have experienced historically significant acts of symbolism that include the 1991 Reconciliation Walk Across Sydney Harbour Bridge. For six hours 250,000 Australians of all backgrounds walked together to demonstrate the fact we are not racist but are overwhelmingly in support of Aboriginal Australia. We have spent a week every year since commemorating this event and what it means.
A Labor Prime Minister said ‘Sorry’ on May 26th 1998 in recognition of the impact of the policies of forcible removal of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children from their families. These days and others are commemorated every year to recognise historical injustices and to demonstrate that everyday Australians DO care for the plight of Indigenous Australians.
We spend days and weeks each year recognising Aboriginal Australia in the following ways:
National Apology Day
National Sorry Day
National Close the Gap Day
Anniversary of the Referendum
Reconciliation week
Mabo Day
Coming of the Light
NAIDOC Week
National Aboriginal and Islander Childrens’ Day
International Day of the worlds Indigenous Peoples
Indigenous Literacy Day
Anniversary of the UN Declaration of Human Rights of Indigenous People
Throughout Australia ‘Welcome to Country’ or ‘Recognition of Country’ is applied as standard ritual practice before events, meetings and social gatherings by governments, corporates, institutions, primary schools, kindergartens, high schools, universities, work places, music festivals, gallery openings, conferences, and so on and so forth.
Aboriginal Australia is a part of the daily life of us all in some way shape or form and yet we are still facing accusations of racism in our nation. We have been hoodwinked into believing that somehow reconciliation means appeasing the aggrieved, those who refuse to forgive, and we are held to ransom every time the goal posts are shifted.
The good will and support of the Australian people is always on display and it has only gathered momentum along the way.
It’s time now to recognise the efforts of thousands of Australians throughout our history who have done what was in their power to support Aboriginal Australia including those who are not Aboriginal but who call us family. It’s time to recognise that we cannot possibly be a racist country if over 87% of people who identify as Aboriginal in non-remote areas of Australia are in fact married to non-Aboriginal Australians.
We must also remember that our nation is not only simply black and white. We are rich with the contribution of Australians of many backgrounds and this is one of our greatest strengths as a nation. What of the 30% of Australians who were born overseas, from every country on earth. Are they all racist too?
It’s time to stop feeding into a narrative that promotes racial divide, a narrative that claims to try to stamp out racism but applies racism in doing so and encourages a racist over reaction. Yes, it is time for some truth telling.
We should be celebrating what we have achieved together before the good will of the nation runs out.
sarahs mum said:
This has gone past me twice on Facebook today. It seems to be making people feel okay about aboriginals and history. But It does seem to be missing.Jacinta Nampijinpa Price
might want to google her.
JudgeMental said:
sarahs mum said:
This has gone past me twice on Facebook today. It seems to be making people feel okay about aboriginals and history. But It does seem to be missing.Jacinta Nampijinpa Price
might want to google her.
Oh yeah. She’s Andrew Bolt’s token Aboriginal.
sarahs mum said:
This has gone past me twice on Facebook today. It seems to be making people feel okay about aboriginals and history. But It does seem to be missing.Jacinta Nampijinpa Price
11 June at 23:00 ·Given we are continually being denigrated as a nation and bombarded by accusations of racism and bigotry, I felt it wasn’t only necessary to defend my home and the country I love but to also provide the overwhelming evidence that demonstrates these accusations are lies. If we can’t have pride in our own nation how are we expected to evolve successfully? If we keep telling a particular demographic they are victims of others of a certain skin colour we are effectively removing that demographic’s agency and that, to me, is completely un-Australian.
Here is a list of our nation’s achievements toward Aboriginal Australia and dare I say there’s very likely a whole lot that I have missed but we have to start somewhere right?
1856 – In South Australia all Men including Aboriginal Men were given the right to vote.
1896 – In South Australia all Women including Aboriginal Women were given the right to vote, 32 years before Women in England were given that right.
1948 – It is not well understood but no one in Australia was an Australian Citizen up until this year. We were regarded as British Subjects until the Citizenship Act was passed. Citizenship Rights were being extended to Aboriginal Australians gradually throughout the 1950’s and 1960’s by Coalition Governments’.
1962 – Aboriginal Australians were granted the Right to Vote by a Coalition Government.
1964 – Aboriginal Australians were virtually granted full Citizenship Rights under a Coalition Government when the Aboriginal Ordinance was repealed.
1967 – The Referendum went through with overwhelming support of well over 90% of Australians voting to allow Aboriginal Australians to be included in the Census and for Aboriginal Affairs to become a Commonwealth responsibility. Another successful Coalition Government initiative.
1968 – The Equal Pay decision was applied by a Coalition Government.
1970 – A state Coalition Government in Victoria handed back the Lake Tyers reserve to the Aboriginal community.
1971 – Senator Neville Bonner, a Liberal, became our first Aboriginal Parliamentarian. Since then there have been 43 Aboriginal MP’s throughout state and federal Parliaments in Australia. To add to this 8 MP’s have recorded Aboriginal Ancestry but have not been identified as Aboriginal. The Northern Territory gave us the first and only Government, at any level, led by an Indigenous Australian. This is not widely known or celebrated because Chief Minister Adam Giles was with the Country Liberal Party.
1976 – The NT Land Rights Act was passed by a Coalition Government. Under this Act around 45% of the land and 80% of the coastline of the NT has been handed back to traditional owners, I’m one of them.
1992 – The High Court overturned the Principal of Terra Nullius with the Mabo Decision.
1993 – A Labor Government passed the Native Title Act.
In Australia today we have experienced historically significant acts of symbolism that include the 1991 Reconciliation Walk Across Sydney Harbour Bridge. For six hours 250,000 Australians of all backgrounds walked together to demonstrate the fact we are not racist but are overwhelmingly in support of Aboriginal Australia. We have spent a week every year since commemorating this event and what it means.
A Labor Prime Minister said ‘Sorry’ on May 26th 1998 in recognition of the impact of the policies of forcible removal of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children from their families. These days and others are commemorated every year to recognise historical injustices and to demonstrate that everyday Australians DO care for the plight of Indigenous Australians.
We spend days and weeks each year recognising Aboriginal Australia in the following ways:
National Apology Day
National Sorry Day
National Close the Gap Day
Anniversary of the Referendum
Reconciliation week
Mabo Day
Coming of the Light
NAIDOC Week
National Aboriginal and Islander Childrens’ Day
International Day of the worlds Indigenous Peoples
Indigenous Literacy Day
Anniversary of the UN Declaration of Human Rights of Indigenous PeopleThroughout Australia ‘Welcome to Country’ or ‘Recognition of Country’ is applied as standard ritual practice before events, meetings and social gatherings by governments, corporates, institutions, primary schools, kindergartens, high schools, universities, work places, music festivals, gallery openings, conferences, and so on and so forth.
Aboriginal Australia is a part of the daily life of us all in some way shape or form and yet we are still facing accusations of racism in our nation. We have been hoodwinked into believing that somehow reconciliation means appeasing the aggrieved, those who refuse to forgive, and we are held to ransom every time the goal posts are shifted.
The good will and support of the Australian people is always on display and it has only gathered momentum along the way.
It’s time now to recognise the efforts of thousands of Australians throughout our history who have done what was in their power to support Aboriginal Australia including those who are not Aboriginal but who call us family. It’s time to recognise that we cannot possibly be a racist country if over 87% of people who identify as Aboriginal in non-remote areas of Australia are in fact married to non-Aboriginal Australians.
We must also remember that our nation is not only simply black and white. We are rich with the contribution of Australians of many backgrounds and this is one of our greatest strengths as a nation. What of the 30% of Australians who were born overseas, from every country on earth. Are they all racist too?
It’s time to stop feeding into a narrative that promotes racial divide, a narrative that claims to try to stamp out racism but applies racism in doing so and encourages a racist over reaction. Yes, it is time for some truth telling.
We should be celebrating what we have achieved together before the good will of the nation runs out.
She’s not everyone’s flavour of the month, Ms Mum.
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:
I don’t really think the psych tests are that great… too many variables and far too short to assess properly over any period of time.And people like me can perform well in those tests.
I mean this is all well and good but it seems a major issue is that there’s often no way to remove an officer from the force even once it is obvious they don’t have the right temperament. Chauvin had 18 complaints against him, including involvement in a suspicious homicide, and it took kneeling on a dude’s head on high quality video until he passed away for anything to be done about it.
JudgeMental said:
sarahs mum said:
This has gone past me twice on Facebook today. It seems to be making people feel okay about aboriginals and history. But It does seem to be missing.Jacinta Nampijinpa Price
might want to google her.
When I saw which of my fb friends (the usual suspects) follow her, I didn’t need to google.
JudgeMental said:
sarahs mum said:
This has gone past me twice on Facebook today. It seems to be making people feel okay about aboriginals and history. But It does seem to be missing.Jacinta Nampijinpa Price
might want to google her.
I did have a look. Mark Latham thinks she’s cool.
Witty Rejoinder said:
JudgeMental said:
sarahs mum said:
This has gone past me twice on Facebook today. It seems to be making people feel okay about aboriginals and history. But It does seem to be missing.Jacinta Nampijinpa Price
might want to google her.
Oh yeah. She’s Andrew Bolt’s token Aboriginal.
Damn.
Woodie said:
sarahs mum said:
This has gone past me twice on Facebook today. It seems to be making people feel okay about aboriginals and history. But It does seem to be missing.Jacinta Nampijinpa Price
11 June at 23:00 ·Given we are continually being denigrated as a nation and bombarded by accusations of racism and bigotry, I felt it wasn’t only necessary to defend my home and the country I love but to also provide the overwhelming evidence that demonstrates these accusations are lies. If we can’t have pride in our own nation how are we expected to evolve successfully? If we keep telling a particular demographic they are victims of others of a certain skin colour we are effectively removing that demographic’s agency and that, to me, is completely un-Australian.
Here is a list of our nation’s achievements toward Aboriginal Australia and dare I say there’s very likely a whole lot that I have missed but we have to start somewhere right?
1856 – In South Australia all Men including Aboriginal Men were given the right to vote.
1896 – In South Australia all Women including Aboriginal Women were given the right to vote, 32 years before Women in England were given that right.
1948 – It is not well understood but no one in Australia was an Australian Citizen up until this year. We were regarded as British Subjects until the Citizenship Act was passed. Citizenship Rights were being extended to Aboriginal Australians gradually throughout the 1950’s and 1960’s by Coalition Governments’.
1962 – Aboriginal Australians were granted the Right to Vote by a Coalition Government.
1964 – Aboriginal Australians were virtually granted full Citizenship Rights under a Coalition Government when the Aboriginal Ordinance was repealed.
1967 – The Referendum went through with overwhelming support of well over 90% of Australians voting to allow Aboriginal Australians to be included in the Census and for Aboriginal Affairs to become a Commonwealth responsibility. Another successful Coalition Government initiative.
1968 – The Equal Pay decision was applied by a Coalition Government.
1970 – A state Coalition Government in Victoria handed back the Lake Tyers reserve to the Aboriginal community.
1971 – Senator Neville Bonner, a Liberal, became our first Aboriginal Parliamentarian. Since then there have been 43 Aboriginal MP’s throughout state and federal Parliaments in Australia. To add to this 8 MP’s have recorded Aboriginal Ancestry but have not been identified as Aboriginal. The Northern Territory gave us the first and only Government, at any level, led by an Indigenous Australian. This is not widely known or celebrated because Chief Minister Adam Giles was with the Country Liberal Party.
1976 – The NT Land Rights Act was passed by a Coalition Government. Under this Act around 45% of the land and 80% of the coastline of the NT has been handed back to traditional owners, I’m one of them.
1992 – The High Court overturned the Principal of Terra Nullius with the Mabo Decision.
1993 – A Labor Government passed the Native Title Act.
In Australia today we have experienced historically significant acts of symbolism that include the 1991 Reconciliation Walk Across Sydney Harbour Bridge. For six hours 250,000 Australians of all backgrounds walked together to demonstrate the fact we are not racist but are overwhelmingly in support of Aboriginal Australia. We have spent a week every year since commemorating this event and what it means.
A Labor Prime Minister said ‘Sorry’ on May 26th 1998 in recognition of the impact of the policies of forcible removal of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children from their families. These days and others are commemorated every year to recognise historical injustices and to demonstrate that everyday Australians DO care for the plight of Indigenous Australians.
We spend days and weeks each year recognising Aboriginal Australia in the following ways:
National Apology Day
National Sorry Day
National Close the Gap Day
Anniversary of the Referendum
Reconciliation week
Mabo Day
Coming of the Light
NAIDOC Week
National Aboriginal and Islander Childrens’ Day
International Day of the worlds Indigenous Peoples
Indigenous Literacy Day
Anniversary of the UN Declaration of Human Rights of Indigenous PeopleThroughout Australia ‘Welcome to Country’ or ‘Recognition of Country’ is applied as standard ritual practice before events, meetings and social gatherings by governments, corporates, institutions, primary schools, kindergartens, high schools, universities, work places, music festivals, gallery openings, conferences, and so on and so forth.
Aboriginal Australia is a part of the daily life of us all in some way shape or form and yet we are still facing accusations of racism in our nation. We have been hoodwinked into believing that somehow reconciliation means appeasing the aggrieved, those who refuse to forgive, and we are held to ransom every time the goal posts are shifted.
The good will and support of the Australian people is always on display and it has only gathered momentum along the way.
It’s time now to recognise the efforts of thousands of Australians throughout our history who have done what was in their power to support Aboriginal Australia including those who are not Aboriginal but who call us family. It’s time to recognise that we cannot possibly be a racist country if over 87% of people who identify as Aboriginal in non-remote areas of Australia are in fact married to non-Aboriginal Australians.
We must also remember that our nation is not only simply black and white. We are rich with the contribution of Australians of many backgrounds and this is one of our greatest strengths as a nation. What of the 30% of Australians who were born overseas, from every country on earth. Are they all racist too?
It’s time to stop feeding into a narrative that promotes racial divide, a narrative that claims to try to stamp out racism but applies racism in doing so and encourages a racist over reaction. Yes, it is time for some truth telling.
We should be celebrating what we have achieved together before the good will of the nation runs out.
She’s not everyone’s flavour of the month, Ms Mum.
Thanks Woodie. :)
Second Melb. BLM protester has tested positive.
Moral of the story: Don’t be a dick.
JudgeMental said:
sarahs mum said:
This has gone past me twice on Facebook today. It seems to be making people feel okay about aboriginals and history. But It does seem to be missing.Jacinta Nampijinpa Price
might want to google her.
Hard right whinger.
Speedy said:
JudgeMental said:
sarahs mum said:
This has gone past me twice on Facebook today. It seems to be making people feel okay about aboriginals and history. But It does seem to be missing.Jacinta Nampijinpa Price
might want to google her.
When I saw which of my fb friends (the usual suspects) follow her, I didn’t need to google.
I might get blocked by a cousin today.
sarahs mum said:
I might get blocked by a cousin today.
Don’t need them anyway. I got unfriended last week. Fine with me, I don’t need their toxicity in my life.
dv said:
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:
I don’t really think the psych tests are that great… too many variables and far too short to assess properly over any period of time.And people like me can perform well in those tests.
I mean this is all well and good but it seems a major issue is that there’s often no way to remove an officer from the force even once it is obvious they don’t have the right temperament. Chauvin had 18 complaints against him, including involvement in a suspicious homicide, and it took kneeling on a dude’s head on high quality video until he passed away for anything to be done about it.
Good indicator of under-resourcing.
Divine Angel said:
sarahs mum said:I might get blocked by a cousin today.
Don’t need them anyway. I got unfriended last week. Fine with me, I don’t need their toxicity in my life.
We only just made friends again after 40 years or so. I’ll see if I can reason.
Trayvon Martin’s Mother, Sybrina Fulton, Qualifies To Run For Office In Florida
https://www.npr.org/sections/live-updates-protests-for-racial-justice/2020/06/11/874683557/trayvon-martins-mother-sybrina-fulton-qualifies-to-run-for-office-in-florida
donald just had a birthday and we didn’t wish him well.
Woodie said:
sarahs mum said:
This has gone past me twice on Facebook today. It seems to be making people feel okay about aboriginals and history. But It does seem to be missing.Jacinta Nampijinpa Price
11 June at 23:00 ·Given we are continually being denigrated as a nation and bombarded by accusations of racism and bigotry, I felt it wasn’t only necessary to defend my home and the country I love but to also provide the overwhelming evidence that demonstrates these accusations are lies. If we can’t have pride in our own nation how are we expected to evolve successfully? If we keep telling a particular demographic they are victims of others of a certain skin colour we are effectively removing that demographic’s agency and that, to me, is completely un-Australian.
Here is a list of our nation’s achievements toward Aboriginal Australia and dare I say there’s very likely a whole lot that I have missed but we have to start somewhere right?
1856 – In South Australia all Men including Aboriginal Men were given the right to vote.
1896 – In South Australia all Women including Aboriginal Women were given the right to vote, 32 years before Women in England were given that right.
1948 – It is not well understood but no one in Australia was an Australian Citizen up until this year. We were regarded as British Subjects until the Citizenship Act was passed. Citizenship Rights were being extended to Aboriginal Australians gradually throughout the 1950’s and 1960’s by Coalition Governments’.
1962 – Aboriginal Australians were granted the Right to Vote by a Coalition Government.
1964 – Aboriginal Australians were virtually granted full Citizenship Rights under a Coalition Government when the Aboriginal Ordinance was repealed.
1967 – The Referendum went through with overwhelming support of well over 90% of Australians voting to allow Aboriginal Australians to be included in the Census and for Aboriginal Affairs to become a Commonwealth responsibility. Another successful Coalition Government initiative.
1968 – The Equal Pay decision was applied by a Coalition Government.
1970 – A state Coalition Government in Victoria handed back the Lake Tyers reserve to the Aboriginal community.
1971 – Senator Neville Bonner, a Liberal, became our first Aboriginal Parliamentarian. Since then there have been 43 Aboriginal MP’s throughout state and federal Parliaments in Australia. To add to this 8 MP’s have recorded Aboriginal Ancestry but have not been identified as Aboriginal. The Northern Territory gave us the first and only Government, at any level, led by an Indigenous Australian. This is not widely known or celebrated because Chief Minister Adam Giles was with the Country Liberal Party.
1976 – The NT Land Rights Act was passed by a Coalition Government. Under this Act around 45% of the land and 80% of the coastline of the NT has been handed back to traditional owners, I’m one of them.
1992 – The High Court overturned the Principal of Terra Nullius with the Mabo Decision.
1993 – A Labor Government passed the Native Title Act.
In Australia today we have experienced historically significant acts of symbolism that include the 1991 Reconciliation Walk Across Sydney Harbour Bridge. For six hours 250,000 Australians of all backgrounds walked together to demonstrate the fact we are not racist but are overwhelmingly in support of Aboriginal Australia. We have spent a week every year since commemorating this event and what it means.
A Labor Prime Minister said ‘Sorry’ on May 26th 1998 in recognition of the impact of the policies of forcible removal of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children from their families. These days and others are commemorated every year to recognise historical injustices and to demonstrate that everyday Australians DO care for the plight of Indigenous Australians.
We spend days and weeks each year recognising Aboriginal Australia in the following ways:
National Apology Day
National Sorry Day
National Close the Gap Day
Anniversary of the Referendum
Reconciliation week
Mabo Day
Coming of the Light
NAIDOC Week
National Aboriginal and Islander Childrens’ Day
International Day of the worlds Indigenous Peoples
Indigenous Literacy Day
Anniversary of the UN Declaration of Human Rights of Indigenous PeopleThroughout Australia ‘Welcome to Country’ or ‘Recognition of Country’ is applied as standard ritual practice before events, meetings and social gatherings by governments, corporates, institutions, primary schools, kindergartens, high schools, universities, work places, music festivals, gallery openings, conferences, and so on and so forth.
Aboriginal Australia is a part of the daily life of us all in some way shape or form and yet we are still facing accusations of racism in our nation. We have been hoodwinked into believing that somehow reconciliation means appeasing the aggrieved, those who refuse to forgive, and we are held to ransom every time the goal posts are shifted.
The good will and support of the Australian people is always on display and it has only gathered momentum along the way.
It’s time now to recognise the efforts of thousands of Australians throughout our history who have done what was in their power to support Aboriginal Australia including those who are not Aboriginal but who call us family. It’s time to recognise that we cannot possibly be a racist country if over 87% of people who identify as Aboriginal in non-remote areas of Australia are in fact married to non-Aboriginal Australians.
We must also remember that our nation is not only simply black and white. We are rich with the contribution of Australians of many backgrounds and this is one of our greatest strengths as a nation. What of the 30% of Australians who were born overseas, from every country on earth. Are they all racist too?
It’s time to stop feeding into a narrative that promotes racial divide, a narrative that claims to try to stamp out racism but applies racism in doing so and encourages a racist over reaction. Yes, it is time for some truth telling.
We should be celebrating what we have achieved together before the good will of the nation runs out.
She’s not everyone’s flavour of the month, Ms Mum.
there is the question of the effect of understating the extent an environment is already egalitarian
that’s how i’d put it
my impression is it’s highly corrosive
JudgeMental said:
donald just had a birthday and we didn’t wish him well.
Duck?
JudgeMental said:
donald just had a birthday and we didn’t wish him well.
I wish he falls down a well
dv said:
JudgeMental said:
donald just had a birthday and we didn’t wish him well.
I wish he falls down a well
I’m sure we all join you in your well-wishes.
ABC News:
‘Hydrogen vehicles are set to be manufactured in the New South Wales Illawarra region, with Australian company H2X aiming to produce 20,000 hybrid vehicles from a plant at Port Kembla by 2025.
Oh, yeah. Right.
A visionary scheme, or just another flash-in-the-pan grab for subsidies?

captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘Hydrogen vehicles are set to be manufactured in the New South Wales Illawarra region, with Australian company H2X aiming to produce 20,000 hybrid vehicles from a plant at Port Kembla by 2025.
Oh, yeah. Right.
A visionary scheme, or just another flash-in-the-pan grab for subsidies?
It would appear they are not eligible for any subsidies.
I mean … good luck to them but it’s hard to imagine it will be a commercial success by 2025. There’s no hydrogen infrastructure, there’s no government support for it, there isn’t even carbon pricing that might provide an incentive. Heck, conventional electric cars can’t even make inroads in to the Australian market.
Divine Angel said:
Moral of the story: Don’t be a dick.
That don’t add up.
Rule 303 said:
JudgeMental said:
sarahs mum said:
This has gone past me twice on Facebook today. It seems to be making people feel okay about aboriginals and history. But It does seem to be missing.Jacinta Nampijinpa Price
might want to google her.
Hard right whinger.
Yep, she’s not afraid to say what she thinks.
Peak Warming Man said:
Rule 303 said:
JudgeMental said:might want to google her.
Hard right whinger.
Yep, she’s not afraid to say what she thinks.
I think ‘think’ might be over-stating her involvement here, mate. She parroting rhetoric from the Institute of Public Affairs.
Peak Warming Man said:
Divine Angel said:
Moral of the story: Don’t be a dick.
That don’t add up.
So does.
Rule 303 said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Rule 303 said:Hard right whinger.
Yep, she’s not afraid to say what she thinks.
I think ‘think’ might be over-stating her involvement here, mate. She parroting rhetoric from the Institute of Public Affairs.
Yep…those last two lines. Classic stuff-
It’s time to stop feeding into a narrative that promotes racial divide, a narrative that claims to try to stamp out racism but applies racism in doing so and encourages a racist over reaction. Yes, it is time for some truth telling.
We should be celebrating what we have achieved together before the good will of the nation runs out.
Before the goodwill of the nation runs out. Well, some of us have goodwill. The rest have a jolly good whinge about how much we give them. ‘Free houses and cars and money for nothing’
Rule 303 said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Divine Angel said:
Moral of the story: Don’t be a dick.
That don’t add up.
So does.
dv said:
we’re not happy ‘til you’re not happy.
might be a schadenfreude shop.
dv said:
Yeah, dunno but it’s good to see you’re walking on that knee a lot more.
ruby said:
Rule 303 said:
Peak Warming Man said:Yep, she’s not afraid to say what she thinks.
I think ‘think’ might be over-stating her involvement here, mate. She parroting rhetoric from the Institute of Public Affairs.
Yep…those last two lines. Classic stuff-
It’s time to stop feeding into a narrative that promotes racial divide, a narrative that claims to try to stamp out racism but applies racism in doing so and encourages a racist over reaction. Yes, it is time for some truth telling.We should be celebrating what we have achieved together before the good will of the nation runs out.
Before the goodwill of the nation runs out. Well, some of us have goodwill. The rest have a jolly good whinge about how much we give them. ‘Free houses and cars and money for nothing’
Plus for someone who doesn’t want to divide she has a lot to say about muslims.
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
Yeah, dunno but it’s good to see you’re walking on that knee a lot more.
i think DV walks on his feet.
JudgeMental said:
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
Yeah, dunno but it’s good to see you’re walking on that knee a lot more.
i think DV walks on his feet.
dv said:
“We’re not happy ‘til you’re happy.”
Don’t you speak signwriter?
ruby said:
Rule 303 said:
Peak Warming Man said:Yep, she’s not afraid to say what she thinks.
I think ‘think’ might be over-stating her involvement here, mate. She parroting rhetoric from the Institute of Public Affairs.
Yep…those last two lines. Classic stuff-
It’s time to stop feeding into a narrative that promotes racial divide, a narrative that claims to try to stamp out racism but applies racism in doing so and encourages a racist over reaction. Yes, it is time for some truth telling.We should be celebrating what we have achieved together before the good will of the nation runs out.
Before the goodwill of the nation runs out. Well, some of us have goodwill. The rest have a jolly good whinge about how much we give them. ‘Free houses and cars and money for nothing’
free cars for everyone but Janina.
dv said:
JudgeMental said:
Peak Warming Man said:Yeah, dunno but it’s good to see you’re walking on that knee a lot more.
i think DV walks on his feet.
don’t strain yourself…
Rule 303 said:
dv said:
“We’re not happy ‘til you’re happy.”
Don’t you speak signwriter?
what about the other “not”? and the ellipsis after the “‘til”
sarahs mum said:
ruby said:
Rule 303 said:I think ‘think’ might be over-stating her involvement here, mate. She parroting rhetoric from the Institute of Public Affairs.
Yep…those last two lines. Classic stuff-
It’s time to stop feeding into a narrative that promotes racial divide, a narrative that claims to try to stamp out racism but applies racism in doing so and encourages a racist over reaction. Yes, it is time for some truth telling.We should be celebrating what we have achieved together before the good will of the nation runs out.
Before the goodwill of the nation runs out. Well, some of us have goodwill. The rest have a jolly good whinge about how much we give them. ‘Free houses and cars and money for nothing’
free cars for everyone but Janina.
So you get free cars too? Shopping spree coming up!
JudgeMental said:
Rule 303 said:
dv said:
“We’re not happy ‘til you’re happy.”
Don’t you speak signwriter?
what about the other “not”? and the ellipsis after the “‘til”
Maybe it is a shop that sells sadness.
https://www.sciencealert.com/a-stone-found-wedged-in-a-gum-tree-reveal-australia-s-aboriginal-history
Whereabouts is this scar tree, poik?
Today was meant to be Day 8 of a 17-day cruise from Perth to Sydney with family and friends. Right now I’m supposed to be hanging out the side of a tender cruising the inlets of Cape Leveque.
F’n Virus!
>:-(
JudgeMental said:
Rule 303 said:
dv said:
“We’re not happy ‘til you’re happy.”
Don’t you speak signwriter?
what about the other “not”? and the ellipsis after the “‘til”
Classic signwriter misdirection.
JudgeMental said:
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
Yeah, dunno but it’s good to see you’re walking on that knee a lot more.
i think DV walks on his feet.
Pastrami on fresh bread with a mug of tea.
Last time I got bogged the chap down the road pulled me out and was telling me he was selling up and moving closer to a town, he’s getting on a bit. I think he’s dreaming with that price though.
https://www.realestate.com.au/property-livestock-nsw-tenterfield-700088594
In other news, RuleKid2 has, as of today, departed her job with a well know chicken franchise and commenced a traineeship in aged care, which she hops will allow her to work and train toward her eventual goal, community care nursing. That seems all good to me.
Rule 303 said:
In other news, RuleKid2 has, as of today, departed her job with a well know chicken franchise and commenced a traineeship in aged care, which she hops will allow her to work and train toward her eventual goal, community care nursing. That seems all good to me.
:)
Peak Warming Man said:
Pastrami on fresh bread with a mug of tea.Last time I got bogged the chap down the road pulled me out and was telling me he was selling up and moving closer to a town, he’s getting on a bit. I think he’s dreaming with that price though.
https://www.realestate.com.au/property-livestock-nsw-tenterfield-700088594
5000 acres, that’s a fair size.
Peak Warming Man said:
Pastrami on fresh bread with a mug of tea.Last time I got bogged the chap down the road pulled me out and was telling me he was selling up and moving closer to a town, he’s getting on a bit. I think he’s dreaming with that price though.
https://www.realestate.com.au/property-livestock-nsw-tenterfield-700088594
LARGE BEEF GRAZING PROPERTY
How large are these beefs?
This poor not even yet born baby, mother is using meth whilst pregnant, so most likely born withdrawing and possible damage from using said substance.
Mother is also quite likely looking at imprisonment and having baby taken away
Rule 303 said:
Chianinas perhaps.
Peak Warming Man said:
Pastrami on fresh bread with a mug of tea.Last time I got bogged the chap down the road pulled me out and was telling me he was selling up and moving closer to a town, he’s getting on a bit. I think he’s dreaming with that price though.
https://www.realestate.com.au/property-livestock-nsw-tenterfield-700088594
LARGE BEEF GRAZING PROPERTY
How large are these beefs?
sibeen said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Pastrami on fresh bread with a mug of tea.Last time I got bogged the chap down the road pulled me out and was telling me he was selling up and moving closer to a town, he’s getting on a bit. I think he’s dreaming with that price though.
https://www.realestate.com.au/property-livestock-nsw-tenterfield-700088594
5000 acres, that’s a fair size.
There are 3 countries smaller than that.
Peak Warming Man said:
Pastrami on fresh bread with a mug of tea.Last time I got bogged the chap down the road pulled me out and was telling me he was selling up and moving closer to a town, he’s getting on a bit. I think he’s dreaming with that price though.
https://www.realestate.com.au/property-livestock-nsw-tenterfield-700088594
If it includes the tractor it’s a bargain :)
Tamb said:
Rule 303 said:Chianinas perhaps.
Peak Warming Man said:
Pastrami on fresh bread with a mug of tea.Last time I got bogged the chap down the road pulled me out and was telling me he was selling up and moving closer to a town, he’s getting on a bit. I think he’s dreaming with that price though.
https://www.realestate.com.au/property-livestock-nsw-tenterfield-700088594
LARGE BEEF GRAZING PROPERTY
How large are these beefs?
Straight bred herefords.
Rule 303 said:
In other news, RuleKid2 has, as of today, departed her job with a well know chicken franchise and commenced a traineeship in aged care, which she hops will allow her to work and train toward her eventual goal, community care nursing. That seems all good to me.
Hat’s off to here, hats off to all carers.
They could not pay me enough to do that work.
Peak Warming Man said:
Pastrami on fresh bread with a mug of tea.Last time I got bogged the chap down the road pulled me out and was telling me he was selling up and moving closer to a town, he’s getting on a bit. I think he’s dreaming with that price though.
https://www.realestate.com.au/property-livestock-nsw-tenterfield-700088594
ugh, hobby farmers…
From the MFB Facebook page: “Clothes dryer sparks blaze in Sunshine”
Faaaarrrrkkk! That’s HOT!
Michael V said:
https://www.sciencealert.com/a-stone-found-wedged-in-a-gum-tree-reveal-australia-s-aboriginal-historyWhereabouts is this scar tree, poik?
If you want to talk a bit more about aboriginal history….hardly anyone knows about the beautiful engraved trees that were here once-
https://www.australiangeographic.com.au/topics/history-culture/2011/06/carved-trees-bring-indigenous-history-to-life/
Peak Warming Man said:
Pastrami on fresh bread with a mug of tea.Last time I got bogged the chap down the road pulled me out and was telling me he was selling up and moving closer to a town, he’s getting on a bit. I think he’s dreaming with that price though.
https://www.realestate.com.au/property-livestock-nsw-tenterfield-700088594
Yeah.
ruby said:
Michael V said:
https://www.sciencealert.com/a-stone-found-wedged-in-a-gum-tree-reveal-australia-s-aboriginal-historyWhereabouts is this scar tree, poik?
If you want to talk a bit more about aboriginal history….hardly anyone knows about the beautiful engraved trees that were here once-
https://www.australiangeographic.com.au/topics/history-culture/2011/06/carved-trees-bring-indigenous-history-to-life/
Ta.
:)
Michael V said:
ruby said:
Michael V said:
https://www.sciencealert.com/a-stone-found-wedged-in-a-gum-tree-reveal-australia-s-aboriginal-historyWhereabouts is this scar tree, poik?
If you want to talk a bit more about aboriginal history….hardly anyone knows about the beautiful engraved trees that were here once-
https://www.australiangeographic.com.au/topics/history-culture/2011/06/carved-trees-bring-indigenous-history-to-life/
Ta.
:)
I have read about carved trees being in Sydney too, back in the early days of settlement. More about them, with more pictures (beautiful stuff)-
https://www.anbg.gov.au/aboriginal-resources/Carved-Trees-Guide-State-Library-NSW-3449.pdf
Good on Daniel Andrews-
https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-15/victorian-labor-minister-adem-somyurek-sacked/12354870
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Pastrami on fresh bread with a mug of tea.Last time I got bogged the chap down the road pulled me out and was telling me he was selling up and moving closer to a town, he’s getting on a bit. I think he’s dreaming with that price though.
https://www.realestate.com.au/property-livestock-nsw-tenterfield-700088594
Yeah.
I can’t see the “beautiful silky oak fixtures” in the house. Is it the window frames?
ruby said:
Michael V said:
ruby said:If you want to talk a bit more about aboriginal history….hardly anyone knows about the beautiful engraved trees that were here once-
https://www.australiangeographic.com.au/topics/history-culture/2011/06/carved-trees-bring-indigenous-history-to-life/
Ta.
:)
I have read about carved trees being in Sydney too, back in the early days of settlement. More about them, with more pictures (beautiful stuff)-
https://www.anbg.gov.au/aboriginal-resources/Carved-Trees-Guide-State-Library-NSW-3449.pdf
Thank you people. I’d not heard of these tree carvings. Although most of my reading has been about this area where I live, eel traps and stone houses etc.
mollwollfumble said:
They’re giving honours to dead people now? That’s not much use to them.
neither are statues
buffy said:
ruby said:
Michael V said:Ta.
:)
I have read about carved trees being in Sydney too, back in the early days of settlement. More about them, with more pictures (beautiful stuff)-
https://www.anbg.gov.au/aboriginal-resources/Carved-Trees-Guide-State-Library-NSW-3449.pdf
Thank you people. I’d not heard of these tree carvings. Although most of my reading has been about this area where I live, eel traps and stone houses etc.
Yuranigh has a few nearby here, still standing too.
Get a lot of rain there
PermeateFree said:
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:
ruby said:I have read about carved trees being in Sydney too, back in the early days of settlement. More about them, with more pictures (beautiful stuff)-
https://www.anbg.gov.au/aboriginal-resources/Carved-Trees-Guide-State-Library-NSW-3449.pdf
Thank you people. I’d not heard of these tree carvings. Although most of my reading has been about this area where I live, eel traps and stone houses etc.
Yuranigh has a few nearby here, still standing too.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-15/patrick-hutchinson-black-lives-matter-protester-photo-london/12354776
I was going to comment that it would be good if the person carried out said thank you. But apparently he hasn’t been identified, according to that piece. It would be very good if he made sure he thanked that man.
New type of jumping robot able to traverse uneven country including going up and down stairs.
While legged robots are able to perform feats such as climbing stairs, their wheeled counterparts are faster and less complex. The Ascento robot offers the best of both worlds, as it has two jumping legs – each one with a wheel on the bottom.
Along with giving it the ability to jump, though, Ascento’s legs also allow it to stay upright on uneven terrain. They do so by bending at their linkage points independently of one another, keeping the robot’s main body level at all times. With the latest version’s new-and-improved “brain,” this leg-bending feature additionally lets the robot keep from falling over when struck from the side.
https://youtu.be/1yvoZhRTX-U
I think some of our ravens are about to make babies. They have been ripping apart the stringybark pieces off the firewood for a few days now.
……….
buffy said:
I think some of our ravens are about to make babies. They have been ripping apart the stringybark pieces off the firewood for a few days now.
……….
:)
buffy said:
I think some of our ravens are about to make babies. They have been ripping apart the stringybark pieces off the firewood for a few days now.
……….
They native?
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
I think some of our ravens are about to make babies. They have been ripping apart the stringybark pieces off the firewood for a few days now.
……….
They native?
Certainly are. I think those ones are Little Ravens (no apparent “beard” under the chin) We also have Australian Ravens and Forest Ravens listed for this area. I have seen larger birds, but I don’t know if they are the Australian or the Forest ones. Lots of ravens around here.
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
I think some of our ravens are about to make babies. They have been ripping apart the stringybark pieces off the firewood for a few days now.
……….
They native?
Certainly are. I think those ones are Little Ravens (no apparent “beard” under the chin) We also have Australian Ravens and Forest Ravens listed for this area. I have seen larger birds, but I don’t know if they are the Australian or the Forest ones. Lots of ravens around here.
Can we quote you on that
If Arts is around our office has been sent a PDF on the motivations of female child sex offenders if you are interested I can forward it to you.
Cymek said:
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:They native?
Certainly are. I think those ones are Little Ravens (no apparent “beard” under the chin) We also have Australian Ravens and Forest Ravens listed for this area. I have seen larger birds, but I don’t know if they are the Australian or the Forest ones. Lots of ravens around here.
Can we quote you on that
19 CORVIDS
SCIENCE said:
Cymek said:
buffy said:Certainly are. I think those ones are Little Ravens (no apparent “beard” under the chin) We also have Australian Ravens and Forest Ravens listed for this area. I have seen larger birds, but I don’t know if they are the Australian or the Forest ones. Lots of ravens around here.
Can we quote you on that
19 CORVIDS
Only two in the backyard at the moment. A lot more than 19 around the place though. (No, I didn’t miss your point)
SCIENCE said:
Cymek said:
buffy said:Certainly are. I think those ones are Little Ravens (no apparent “beard” under the chin) We also have Australian Ravens and Forest Ravens listed for this area. I have seen larger birds, but I don’t know if they are the Australian or the Forest ones. Lots of ravens around here.
Can we quote you on that
19 CORVIDS
Not another conspiracy
Cymek said:
If Arts is around our office has been sent a PDF on the motivations of female child sex offenders if you are interested I can forward it to you.
yes please.. do you know my email?
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
I think some of our ravens are about to make babies. They have been ripping apart the stringybark pieces off the firewood for a few days now.
……….
They native?
Certainly are. I think those ones are Little Ravens (no apparent “beard” under the chin) We also have Australian Ravens and Forest Ravens listed for this area. I have seen larger birds, but I don’t know if they are the Australian or the Forest ones. Lots of ravens around here.
I thought the difference was the Pinion feather?
Speedy said:
SCIENCE said:
Cymek said:Can we quote you on that
19 CORVIDS
Not another conspiracy
a murder
SCIENCE said:
Cymek said:
buffy said:Certainly are. I think those ones are Little Ravens (no apparent “beard” under the chin) We also have Australian Ravens and Forest Ravens listed for this area. I have seen larger birds, but I don’t know if they are the Australian or the Forest ones. Lots of ravens around here.
Can we quote you on that
19 CORVIDS
Very clever.
Arts said:
Cymek said:
If Arts is around our office has been sent a PDF on the motivations of female child sex offenders if you are interested I can forward it to you.
yes please.. do you know my email?
Not anymore
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
I think some of our ravens are about to make babies. They have been ripping apart the stringybark pieces off the firewood for a few days now.
……….
They native?
Certainly are. I think those ones are Little Ravens (no apparent “beard” under the chin) We also have Australian Ravens and Forest Ravens listed for this area. I have seen larger birds, but I don’t know if they are the Australian or the Forest ones. Lots of ravens around here.
We have the Torresian Crow here. They were also in Brisbane. In Armidale, we had the Forest Raven (also called a crow there). They have quite different calls.
home sweet home, coffee now then head out get some stumps, check sheep water etc while
drizzling some out there
go for a drive and cop these fellas instead, not corvids
Cymek said:
Arts said:
Cymek said:
If Arts is around our office has been sent a PDF on the motivations of female child sex offenders if you are interested I can forward it to you.
yes please.. do you know my email?
Not anymore
heinzdesigns at the hotplace.
Cymek said:
Arts said:
Cymek said:
If Arts is around our office has been sent a PDF on the motivations of female child sex offenders if you are interested I can forward it to you.
yes please.. do you know my email?
Not anymore
Actually I think I still so is, it heinzdesigns at the hot place
Cymek said:
Cymek said:
Arts said:yes please.. do you know my email?
Not anymore
Actually I think I still so is, it heinzdesigns at the hot place
yes.
Arts said:
Cymek said:
Cymek said:Not anymore
Actually I think I still so is, it heinzdesigns at the hot place
yes.
Cool sending it now
Peak Warming Man said:
SCIENCE said:
Cymek said:Can we quote you on that
19 CORVIDS
Very clever.
yes it was our best moment
SCIENCE said:
go for a drive and cop these fellas instead, not corvids
We have lots of White Cockatoos, too. Very noisy buggers at times.
Cymek said:
Arts said:
Cymek said:Actually I think I still so is, it heinzdesigns at the hot place
yes.
Cool sending it now
received. thank you
Arts said:
Cymek said:
Arts said:yes.
Cool sending it now
received. thank you
No problem
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
go for a drive and cop these fellas instead, not corvids
We have lots of White Cockatoos, too. Very noisy buggers at times.
Yep, they get on the piss (eat/drink fermented stuff) and then get on the telegraph lines and yell at each other with screeches and squawks and do loop the loops and fly off into sides of houses and trees.
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
go for a drive and cop these fellas instead, not corvids
We have lots of White Cockatoos, too. Very noisy buggers at times.
The nest in the tree near the local shop, the do make a lot of noise, I can imagine the flocks of centuries ago before any forests were cut down
SCIENCE said:
Speedy said:
SCIENCE said:19 CORVIDS
Not another conspiracy
a murder
With the number around here it’s probably a Midsomer. Does a murder apply to all corvids, or only crows?
(These are ravens here, not crows)
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-15/environmental-activist-who-allegedly-moved-garden-mulch-arrested/12356210
buffy said:
SCIENCE said:
Speedy said:Not another conspiracy
a murder
With the number around here it’s probably a Midsomer. Does a murder apply to all corvids, or only crows?
(These are ravens here, not crows)
I looked it up. It is apparently an “unkindness”, “treachery” or a “conspiracy” of ravens.
SCIENCE said:
Speedy said:
SCIENCE said:19 CORVIDS
Not another conspiracy
a murder
there are only two.. it’s attempted murder.
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
go for a drive and cop these fellas instead, not corvids
We have lots of White Cockatoos, too. Very noisy buggers at times.
Yep, they get on the piss (eat/drink fermented stuff) and then get on the telegraph lines and yell at each other with screeches and squawks and do loop the loops and fly off into sides of houses and trees.
They can be cheeky. When they are eating palm nuts, sitting on a power line, they wait until you are underneath to drop a nut onto you, just for the reaction. If you look at them before you get to them, and say something to them, they won’t attempt it.
Arts said:
SCIENCE said:
Speedy said:Not another conspiracy
a murder
there are only two.. it’s attempted murder.
ROFL
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:We have lots of White Cockatoos, too. Very noisy buggers at times.
Yep, they get on the piss (eat/drink fermented stuff) and then get on the telegraph lines and yell at each other with screeches and squawks and do loop the loops and fly off into sides of houses and trees.
They can be cheeky. When they are eating palm nuts, sitting on a power line, they wait until you are underneath to drop a nut onto you, just for the reaction. If you look at them before you get to them, and say something to them, they won’t attempt it.
Parrots certainly have the face for it, always look like they are up to something
The first laws in Australia to make the deliberate underpayment of wages a crime appear likely to pass Victoria’s upper house as early as this week.
The Andrews government’s Wage Theft Bill includes hefty fines and up to 10 years’ jail for rogue employers, with a team of new inspectors empowered to police the laws.
—
Oh so theft is a crime now? IPCGM
so what is the green fireball that streaked across the skies in the Pilbara?
Arts said:
so what is the green fireball that streaked across the skies in the Pilbara?
stand down it’s just a meteor.
dv said:
The first laws in Australia to make the deliberate underpayment of wages a crime appear likely to pass Victoria’s upper house as early as this week.The Andrews government’s Wage Theft Bill includes hefty fines and up to 10 years’ jail for rogue employers, with a team of new inspectors empowered to police the laws.
—
Oh so theft is a crime now? IPCGM
don’t worry it’s nothing compared to a few million to the Great Sports Club Conservation programme
Arts said:
so what is the green fireball that streaked across the skies in the Pilbara?
A meteor.
Arts said:
Arts said:
so what is the green fireball that streaked across the skies in the Pilbara?stand down it’s just a meteor.
preparation for triffids
dv said:
The first laws in Australia to make the deliberate underpayment of wages a crime appear likely to pass Victoria’s upper house as early as this week.The Andrews government’s Wage Theft Bill includes hefty fines and up to 10 years’ jail for rogue employers, with a team of new inspectors empowered to police the laws.
—
Oh so theft is a crime now? IPCGM
Dominos has a pop-up mentioning a surcharge on Sundays and Public Holidays so they can pay staff more and you the customer obviously understand and support that by ordering.
They were fined lately for underpaying staff and I always wondered if they did pass on the extra money
Arts said:
Arts said:
so what is the green fireball that streaked across the skies in the Pilbara?stand down it’s just a meteor.
and not the end of the world as the Mayans predicted… stupid Mayans.. what would they know?
Michael V said:
Arts said:
so what is the green fireball that streaked across the skies in the Pilbara?A meteor.
The Colour Out Of Space I reckon
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-15/environmental-activist-who-allegedly-moved-garden-mulch-arrested/12356210
I didn’t know Melaleucas lived that long. Around here they seem to fall apart much quicker than 400 years.
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-15/environmental-activist-who-allegedly-moved-garden-mulch-arrested/12356210I didn’t know Melaleucas lived that long. Around here they seem to fall apart much quicker than 400 years.
If the report is accurate it looks like it is the council that should have been arrested, for obstructing the course of justice.
Tonight just a wholesome mix of broccoli, green beans, garlic, couscous, grated parmesan, olive oil, lemon juice, seasonings.
Bubblecar said:
Tonight just a wholesome mix of broccoli, green beans, garlic, couscous, grated parmesan, olive oil, lemon juice, seasonings.
Copy that.
Home made steak sandwich here, washed down with a glass popular cola.
Over.
Bubblecar said:
Tonight just a wholesome mix of broccoli, green beans, garlic, couscous, grated parmesan, olive oil, lemon juice, seasonings.
Meatball soup here. I should get started making toast fingers.
Divine Angel said:
Bubblecar said:
Tonight just a wholesome mix of broccoli, green beans, garlic, couscous, grated parmesan, olive oil, lemon juice, seasonings.
Meatball soup here. I should get started making toast fingers.

New Horizons’ Extreme Close-Up of Pluto’s Surface (no audio)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEdvyrKokX4
We et sausages inna bun and steamed carrots and broccoli and some fried mushrooms.Kind of bits and pieces.
TIL:


This is something everyone should see.
When you get your 8/10 week old puppies, please keep this image in mind. Their bones do not even touch yet. They plod around so cutely with big floppy paws and wobbly movement because their joints are entirely made up of muscle, tendons, ligaments with skin covering. Nothing is fitting tightly together or has a true socket yet.
When you run them excessively or don’t restrict their exercise to stop them from overdoing it during this period you don’t give them a chance to grow properly. Every big jump or excited bouncing run causes impacts between the bones. In reasonable amounts this is not problematic and is the normal wear and tear that every animal will engage in.
But when you’re letting puppy jump up and down off the lounge or bed, take them for long walks/hikes, you are damaging that forming joint. When you let the puppy scramble on tile with no traction you are damaging the joint.
You only get the chance to grow them once. A well built body is something that comes from excellent breeding and a great upbringing-BOTH, not just one.
Once grown you will have the rest of their life to spend playing and engaging in higher impact exercise. So keep it calm while they’re still little baby puppies and give the gift that can only be given once.
A bit of back-story: This is a baby puppy who had a knock to his elbow and wasn’t using it properly, so he was taken to the vet. There is nothing wrong in these x-rays, thankfully it is a soft tissue injury and he is expected to be fine.
From Pound Patrol Facebook page.
Rule 303 said:
TIL:
This is something everyone should see.
When you get your 8/10 week old puppies, please keep this image in mind. Their bones do not even touch yet. They plod around so cutely with big floppy paws and wobbly movement because their joints are entirely made up of muscle, tendons, ligaments with skin covering. Nothing is fitting tightly together or has a true socket yet.
When you run them excessively or don’t restrict their exercise to stop them from overdoing it during this period you don’t give them a chance to grow properly. Every big jump or excited bouncing run causes impacts between the bones. In reasonable amounts this is not problematic and is the normal wear and tear that every animal will engage in.
But when you’re letting puppy jump up and down off the lounge or bed, take them for long walks/hikes, you are damaging that forming joint. When you let the puppy scramble on tile with no traction you are damaging the joint.
You only get the chance to grow them once. A well built body is something that comes from excellent breeding and a great upbringing-BOTH, not just one.
Once grown you will have the rest of their life to spend playing and engaging in higher impact exercise. So keep it calm while they’re still little baby puppies and give the gift that can only be given once.
A bit of back-story: This is a baby puppy who had a knock to his elbow and wasn’t using it properly, so he was taken to the vet. There is nothing wrong in these x-rays, thankfully it is a soft tissue injury and he is expected to be fine.
From Pound Patrol Facebook page.
Puppies are not allowed to do Agility classes until they are 18 months old.
kryten said:
Rule 303 said:
TIL:
This is something everyone should see.
When you get your 8/10 week old puppies, please keep this image in mind. Their bones do not even touch yet. They plod around so cutely with big floppy paws and wobbly movement because their joints are entirely made up of muscle, tendons, ligaments with skin covering. Nothing is fitting tightly together or has a true socket yet.
When you run them excessively or don’t restrict their exercise to stop them from overdoing it during this period you don’t give them a chance to grow properly. Every big jump or excited bouncing run causes impacts between the bones. In reasonable amounts this is not problematic and is the normal wear and tear that every animal will engage in.
But when you’re letting puppy jump up and down off the lounge or bed, take them for long walks/hikes, you are damaging that forming joint. When you let the puppy scramble on tile with no traction you are damaging the joint.
You only get the chance to grow them once. A well built body is something that comes from excellent breeding and a great upbringing-BOTH, not just one.
Once grown you will have the rest of their life to spend playing and engaging in higher impact exercise. So keep it calm while they’re still little baby puppies and give the gift that can only be given once.
A bit of back-story: This is a baby puppy who had a knock to his elbow and wasn’t using it properly, so he was taken to the vet. There is nothing wrong in these x-rays, thankfully it is a soft tissue injury and he is expected to be fine.
From Pound Patrol Facebook page.
Puppies are not allowed to do Agility classes until they are 18 months old.
Wow. I had no idea they were so slow to develop.
Bubblecar said:
New Horizons’ Extreme Close-Up of Pluto’s Surface (no audio)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEdvyrKokX4
looks a bit cold Frozen nitrogen.
Rule 303 said:
kryten said:
Rule 303 said:
TIL:
This is something everyone should see.
When you get your 8/10 week old puppies, please keep this image in mind. Their bones do not even touch yet. They plod around so cutely with big floppy paws and wobbly movement because their joints are entirely made up of muscle, tendons, ligaments with skin covering. Nothing is fitting tightly together or has a true socket yet.
When you run them excessively or don’t restrict their exercise to stop them from overdoing it during this period you don’t give them a chance to grow properly. Every big jump or excited bouncing run causes impacts between the bones. In reasonable amounts this is not problematic and is the normal wear and tear that every animal will engage in.
But when you’re letting puppy jump up and down off the lounge or bed, take them for long walks/hikes, you are damaging that forming joint. When you let the puppy scramble on tile with no traction you are damaging the joint.
You only get the chance to grow them once. A well built body is something that comes from excellent breeding and a great upbringing-BOTH, not just one.
Once grown you will have the rest of their life to spend playing and engaging in higher impact exercise. So keep it calm while they’re still little baby puppies and give the gift that can only be given once.
A bit of back-story: This is a baby puppy who had a knock to his elbow and wasn’t using it properly, so he was taken to the vet. There is nothing wrong in these x-rays, thankfully it is a soft tissue injury and he is expected to be fine.
From Pound Patrol Facebook page.
Puppies are not allowed to do Agility classes until they are 18 months old.
Wow. I had no idea they were so slow to develop.
https://adaa.com.au/faqs/
dog agility association
Do we know whether the Wage Theft Bill passed the upper house today?
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Tonight just a wholesome mix of broccoli, green beans, garlic, couscous, grated parmesan, olive oil, lemon juice, seasonings.
Copy that.
Home made steak sandwich here, washed down with a glass popular cola.
Over.
Vegetable (wombok, carrot, celery) soup with vegetable and veal wontons is going to happen here.
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
New Horizons’ Extreme Close-Up of Pluto’s Surface (no audio)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEdvyrKokX4
looks a bit cold Frozen nitrogen.
buffy said:
Rule 303 said:
kryten said:Puppies are not allowed to do Agility classes until they are 18 months old.
Wow. I had no idea they were so slow to develop.
https://adaa.com.au/faqs/
dog agility association
Interesting. Thank you. Forwarded to RuleKid1, who has a young Kelpie.
Rule 303 said:
buffy said:
Rule 303 said:Wow. I had no idea they were so slow to develop.
https://adaa.com.au/faqs/
dog agility association
Interesting. Thank you. Forwarded to RuleKid1, who has a young Kelpie.
That is going to need work in an urban environment. They run all day. But they are very trainable. I’d recommend an obedience club first. Many also have agility groups. There are also other dog sports these days that I’m not really up on.
Rule 303 said:
Do we know whether the Wage Theft Bill passed the upper house today?
Not I said the little red hen.
Rule 303 said:
kryten said:
Rule 303 said:
TIL:
This is something everyone should see.
When you get your 8/10 week old puppies, please keep this image in mind. Their bones do not even touch yet. They plod around so cutely with big floppy paws and wobbly movement because their joints are entirely made up of muscle, tendons, ligaments with skin covering. Nothing is fitting tightly together or has a true socket yet.
When you run them excessively or don’t restrict their exercise to stop them from overdoing it during this period you don’t give them a chance to grow properly. Every big jump or excited bouncing run causes impacts between the bones. In reasonable amounts this is not problematic and is the normal wear and tear that every animal will engage in.
But when you’re letting puppy jump up and down off the lounge or bed, take them for long walks/hikes, you are damaging that forming joint. When you let the puppy scramble on tile with no traction you are damaging the joint.
You only get the chance to grow them once. A well built body is something that comes from excellent breeding and a great upbringing-BOTH, not just one.
Once grown you will have the rest of their life to spend playing and engaging in higher impact exercise. So keep it calm while they’re still little baby puppies and give the gift that can only be given once.
A bit of back-story: This is a baby puppy who had a knock to his elbow and wasn’t using it properly, so he was taken to the vet. There is nothing wrong in these x-rays, thankfully it is a soft tissue injury and he is expected to be fine.
From Pound Patrol Facebook page.
Puppies are not allowed to do Agility classes until they are 18 months old.
Wow. I had no idea they were so slow to develop.
so ah when did cartilage evolve, was it with the primates, or with the mammals, with the vertebrates perhaps, do puppies have cartilage
Rule 303 said:
buffy said:
Rule 303 said:Wow. I had no idea they were so slow to develop.
https://adaa.com.au/faqs/
dog agility association
Interesting. Thank you. Forwarded to RuleKid1, who has a young Kelpie.
Classes are on hold at the moment, but:
https://www.peninsulaobediencedogclub.org.au/
The Rev Dodgson said:
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-15/environmental-activist-who-allegedly-moved-garden-mulch-arrested/12356210I didn’t know Melaleucas lived that long. Around here they seem to fall apart much quicker than 400 years.
If the report is accurate it looks like it is the council that should have been arrested, for obstructing the course of justice.
For anyone wondering what the punishment would be, the environmental activist had this to offer.
“It’s a complete cover-up,” Mr Holland said.
More seriously, consider how people are in fact supportive of other councils around the world who are allegedly destroying history, tearing / pulling / cutting / blowing down statues, so what’s this to anyone anyway? It’s not like statues can grow back, but LIFE, well, it can.
kryten said:
Rule 303 said:
TIL:
This is something everyone should see.
When you get your 8/10 week old puppies, please keep this image in mind. Their bones do not even touch yet. They plod around so cutely with big floppy paws and wobbly movement because their joints are entirely made up of muscle, tendons, ligaments with skin covering. Nothing is fitting tightly together or has a true socket yet.
When you run them excessively or don’t restrict their exercise to stop them from overdoing it during this period you don’t give them a chance to grow properly. Every big jump or excited bouncing run causes impacts between the bones. In reasonable amounts this is not problematic and is the normal wear and tear that every animal will engage in.
But when you’re letting puppy jump up and down off the lounge or bed, take them for long walks/hikes, you are damaging that forming joint. When you let the puppy scramble on tile with no traction you are damaging the joint.
You only get the chance to grow them once. A well built body is something that comes from excellent breeding and a great upbringing-BOTH, not just one.
Once grown you will have the rest of their life to spend playing and engaging in higher impact exercise. So keep it calm while they’re still little baby puppies and give the gift that can only be given once.
A bit of back-story: This is a baby puppy who had a knock to his elbow and wasn’t using it properly, so he was taken to the vet. There is nothing wrong in these x-rays, thankfully it is a soft tissue injury and he is expected to be fine.
From Pound Patrol Facebook page.
Puppies are not allowed to do Agility classes until they are 18 months old.
Yeah, this.
There’s a sign at our local dog park saying “due to bone growth, dogs under a year old should not use the agility equipment”.
buffy said:
Rule 303 said:
buffy said:https://adaa.com.au/faqs/
dog agility association
Interesting. Thank you. Forwarded to RuleKid1, who has a young Kelpie.
That is going to need work in an urban environment. They run all day. But they are very trainable. I’d recommend an obedience club first. Many also have agility groups. There are also other dog sports these days that I’m not really up on.
He wont do any of that, I can assure you. I did my best to impress all that upon him, but to no avail.
Bloody kids….
Rule 303 said:
buffy said:
Rule 303 said:Interesting. Thank you. Forwarded to RuleKid1, who has a young Kelpie.
That is going to need work in an urban environment. They run all day. But they are very trainable. I’d recommend an obedience club first. Many also have agility groups. There are also other dog sports these days that I’m not really up on.
He wont do any of that, I can assure you. I did my best to impress all that upon him, but to no avail.
Bloody kids….
Is this dog at your place? It’s likely to be destructive if bored…
Dad’s kelpie has 5 acres to run around on, but loved to jump the fence and play across the road.
When dad fell last week while walking the dog, the dog ran off and made himself a new home 2 kms away.
Divine Angel said:
Dad’s kelpie has 5 acres to run around on, but loved to jump the fence and play across the road.When dad fell last week while walking the dog, the dog ran off and made himself a new home 2 kms away.
So much for loyalty.
buffy said:
Rule 303 said:
buffy said:That is going to need work in an urban environment. They run all day. But they are very trainable. I’d recommend an obedience club first. Many also have agility groups. There are also other dog sports these days that I’m not really up on.
He wont do any of that, I can assure you. I did my best to impress all that upon him, but to no avail.
Bloody kids….
Is this dog at your place? It’s likely to be destructive if bored…
No, he moved out (so that he could get a dog) into a unit(!) about 18 months ago. The dog was indeed very destructive to the unit, so he moved to a small farm, from which the dog kept escaping, so now he’s moved to a house with a small yard, where the dog has nothing to destroy but the sanity of their neighbours.
Rule 303 said:
buffy said:
Rule 303 said:He wont do any of that, I can assure you. I did my best to impress all that upon him, but to no avail.
Bloody kids….
Is this dog at your place? It’s likely to be destructive if bored…
No, he moved out (so that he could get a dog) into a unit(!) about 18 months ago. The dog was indeed very destructive to the unit, so he moved to a small farm, from which the dog kept escaping, so now he’s moved to a house with a small yard, where the dog has nothing to destroy but the sanity of their neighbours.
Sounds similar to my next doors. They have some kind of staffie with a loud growly sort of bark. Small courtyard backyards about 5 × 10m are the norm here. Not really much room for a medium size dog.
Bubblecar said:
Divine Angel said:
Dad’s kelpie has 5 acres to run around on, but loved to jump the fence and play across the road.When dad fell last week while walking the dog, the dog ran off and made himself a new home 2 kms away.
So much for loyalty.
Divine Angel said:
Dad’s kelpie has 5 acres to run around on, but loved to jump the fence and play across the road.When dad fell last week while walking the dog, the dog ran off and made himself a new home 2 kms away.
Brett said when he was younger he got rid of his sheep and his kelpie went to a neighbour’s house and got him a bunch and put them in the garden for him to find at breakfast..
Dad was taking Remy for 2 × 1.5hr walks every day, about 10-12 kms all up. Still not enough for Remy.
When Jasmine escapes here, she always ran down to the dog park. Jellybean runs to my neighbour and sits at their front door.
Rule 303 said:
TIL:
This is something everyone should see.
When you get your 8/10 week old puppies, please keep this image in mind. Their bones do not even touch yet. They plod around so cutely with big floppy paws and wobbly movement because their joints are entirely made up of muscle, tendons, ligaments with skin covering. Nothing is fitting tightly together or has a true socket yet.
When you run them excessively or don’t restrict their exercise to stop them from overdoing it during this period you don’t give them a chance to grow properly. Every big jump or excited bouncing run causes impacts between the bones. In reasonable amounts this is not problematic and is the normal wear and tear that every animal will engage in.
But when you’re letting puppy jump up and down off the lounge or bed, take them for long walks/hikes, you are damaging that forming joint. When you let the puppy scramble on tile with no traction you are damaging the joint.
You only get the chance to grow them once. A well built body is something that comes from excellent breeding and a great upbringing-BOTH, not just one.
Once grown you will have the rest of their life to spend playing and engaging in higher impact exercise. So keep it calm while they’re still little baby puppies and give the gift that can only be given once.
A bit of back-story: This is a baby puppy who had a knock to his elbow and wasn’t using it properly, so he was taken to the vet. There is nothing wrong in these x-rays, thankfully it is a soft tissue injury and he is expected to be fine.
From Pound Patrol Facebook page.
TIL +1
Cobbett never leaves my side. He never goes anywhere.
Divine Angel said:
Dad was taking Remy for 2 × 1.5hr walks every day, about 10-12 kms all up. Still not enough for Remy.
This is what I was trying to tell the kid – They’re bred for hard work and high intelligence. A good one will run 10 hours a day and respond to 50 or 60 different commands. It’s no more appropriate to keep them in a suburban back yard than it would be to keep a Giraffe.
Kid1’s dog and its sister were surrendered to the RSPCA at 6 months, I think, and he got the male and his girlfriend got the female.
>sigh<
Divine Angel said:
Bubblecar said:
Divine Angel said:
Dad’s kelpie has 5 acres to run around on, but loved to jump the fence and play across the road.When dad fell last week while walking the dog, the dog ran off and made himself a new home 2 kms away.
So much for loyalty.
Well, the reason dad ended up with the dog was because Remy (the dog) kept running away from his owners to my aunt’s place. My aunt kept returning the dog, only to witness Remy being beaten by his owner. Dad visited my aunt, who said, “hey, you want a dog?” The former owner hasn’t missed Remy.
Ah. Good job he was rescued.
sarahs mum said:
Divine Angel said:
Dad’s kelpie has 5 acres to run around on, but loved to jump the fence and play across the road.When dad fell last week while walking the dog, the dog ran off and made himself a new home 2 kms away.
Brett said when he was younger he got rid of his sheep and his kelpie went to a neighbour’s house and got him a bunch and put them in the garden for him to find at breakfast..
LOL
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
Dad was taking Remy for 2 × 1.5hr walks every day, about 10-12 kms all up. Still not enough for Remy.
This is what I was trying to tell the kid – They’re bred for hard work and high intelligence. A good one will run 10 hours a day and respond to 50 or 60 different commands. It’s no more appropriate to keep them in a suburban back yard than it would be to keep a Giraffe.
Kid1’s dog and its sister were surrendered to the RSPCA at 6 months, I think, and he got the male and his girlfriend got the female.
>sigh<
According to the mob we adopted Jells from, kelpies are the most surrendered breed. Staffies are the most abandoned breed.
I had a red cloud kelpie. knew the basic commands and obeyed at will. was quite content to laze around. well behaved.
Divine Angel said:
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
Dad was taking Remy for 2 × 1.5hr walks every day, about 10-12 kms all up. Still not enough for Remy.
This is what I was trying to tell the kid – They’re bred for hard work and high intelligence. A good one will run 10 hours a day and respond to 50 or 60 different commands. It’s no more appropriate to keep them in a suburban back yard than it would be to keep a Giraffe.
Kid1’s dog and its sister were surrendered to the RSPCA at 6 months, I think, and he got the male and his girlfriend got the female.
>sigh<
According to the mob we adopted Jells from, kelpies are the most surrendered breed. Staffies are the most abandoned breed.
what’s the distinction between surrendered and abandoned?
party_pants said:
Divine Angel said:
Rule 303 said:This is what I was trying to tell the kid – They’re bred for hard work and high intelligence. A good one will run 10 hours a day and respond to 50 or 60 different commands. It’s no more appropriate to keep them in a suburban back yard than it would be to keep a Giraffe.
Kid1’s dog and its sister were surrendered to the RSPCA at 6 months, I think, and he got the male and his girlfriend got the female.
>sigh<
According to the mob we adopted Jells from, kelpies are the most surrendered breed. Staffies are the most abandoned breed.
what’s the distinction between surrendered and abandoned?
surrendered to the pound. abandoned to the streets.
A lot of animals have it pretty good these days, some even get to go on cruses to exotic and foreign destinations.
Rule 303 said:
buffy said:
Rule 303 said:He wont do any of that, I can assure you. I did my best to impress all that upon him, but to no avail.
Bloody kids….
Is this dog at your place? It’s likely to be destructive if bored…
No, he moved out (so that he could get a dog) into a unit(!) about 18 months ago. The dog was indeed very destructive to the unit, so he moved to a small farm, from which the dog kept escaping, so now he’s moved to a house with a small yard, where the dog has nothing to destroy but the sanity of their neighbours.
Neighbours may well complain if it’s a barking dog.
JudgeMental said:
party_pants said:
Divine Angel said:According to the mob we adopted Jells from, kelpies are the most surrendered breed. Staffies are the most abandoned breed.
what’s the distinction between surrendered and abandoned?
surrendered to the pound. abandoned to the streets.
Surrendered to either the pound or a rehoming mob. Abandoned along the side of a road, or in the case of one particular litter, in a McDonald’s carpark.
Jellybean, her two sisters, and their mum were all surrendered to a pound.
Peak Warming Man said:
A lot of animals have it pretty good these days, some even get to go on cruses to exotic and foreign destinations.
When you put it like that…
Peak Warming Man said:
A lot of animals have it pretty good these days, some even get to go on cruses to exotic and foreign destinations.
pangolins love china apparently…
Divine Angel said:
JudgeMental said:
party_pants said:what’s the distinction between surrendered and abandoned?
surrendered to the pound. abandoned to the streets.
Surrendered to either the pound or a rehoming mob. Abandoned along the side of a road, or in the case of one particular litter, in a McDonald’s carpark.
Jellybean, her two sisters, and their mum were all surrendered to a pound.
OK. Makes sense. Staffies being the most popular bogan breed around here I’m not surprised. Probably on the point of getting evicted if they don’t get rid of the dog, so they just get rid of it.
LOL, so much wrong with this.

party_pants said:
Divine Angel said:
JudgeMental said:surrendered to the pound. abandoned to the streets.
Surrendered to either the pound or a rehoming mob. Abandoned along the side of a road, or in the case of one particular litter, in a McDonald’s carpark.
Jellybean, her two sisters, and their mum were all surrendered to a pound.
OK. Makes sense. Staffies being the most popular bogan breed around here I’m not surprised. Probably on the point of getting evicted if they don’t get rid of the dog, so they just get rid of it.
staffies are lovely dogs.
Full rotation of asteroid Vesta.

party_pants said:
Divine Angel said:
Rule 303 said:This is what I was trying to tell the kid – They’re bred for hard work and high intelligence. A good one will run 10 hours a day and respond to 50 or 60 different commands. It’s no more appropriate to keep them in a suburban back yard than it would be to keep a Giraffe.
Kid1’s dog and its sister were surrendered to the RSPCA at 6 months, I think, and he got the male and his girlfriend got the female.
>sigh<
According to the mob we adopted Jells from, kelpies are the most surrendered breed. Staffies are the most abandoned breed.
what’s the distinction between surrendered and abandoned?
This reminds my of the time I saw a Husky or Malamute digging for foot in a rubbish bin on the side of the road in the middle of the Nullarbor. Nothing around for several hundred kilometres in any direction.
:-(
buffy said:
Rule 303 said:
buffy said:Is this dog at your place? It’s likely to be destructive if bored…
No, he moved out (so that he could get a dog) into a unit(!) about 18 months ago. The dog was indeed very destructive to the unit, so he moved to a small farm, from which the dog kept escaping, so now he’s moved to a house with a small yard, where the dog has nothing to destroy but the sanity of their neighbours.
Neighbours may well complain if it’s a barking dog.
Yep. Wouldn’t surprise me.
JudgeMental said:
party_pants said:
Divine Angel said:Surrendered to either the pound or a rehoming mob. Abandoned along the side of a road, or in the case of one particular litter, in a McDonald’s carpark.
Jellybean, her two sisters, and their mum were all surrendered to a pound.
OK. Makes sense. Staffies being the most popular bogan breed around here I’m not surprised. Probably on the point of getting evicted if they don’t get rid of the dog, so they just get rid of it.
staffies are lovely dogs.
Some/most staffies are lovely dogs. Although when they barrel into your legs with enthusiasm, it hurts your shins. Heads like stones. But…like many breeds, they can be taught badly.
JudgeMental said:
party_pants said:
Divine Angel said:Surrendered to either the pound or a rehoming mob. Abandoned along the side of a road, or in the case of one particular litter, in a McDonald’s carpark.
Jellybean, her two sisters, and their mum were all surrendered to a pound.
OK. Makes sense. Staffies being the most popular bogan breed around here I’m not surprised. Probably on the point of getting evicted if they don’t get rid of the dog, so they just get rid of it.
staffies are lovely dogs.
there’s probably one lovely one, somewhere. Yes.
party_pants said:
JudgeMental said:
party_pants said:OK. Makes sense. Staffies being the most popular bogan breed around here I’m not surprised. Probably on the point of getting evicted if they don’t get rid of the dog, so they just get rid of it.
staffies are lovely dogs.
there’s probably one lovely one, somewhere. Yes.
I am breedist against staffies. Ever since that one that was trained to attack, and Jasmine grabbed its throat. Neither she nor I ever trusted staffies ever again.
party_pants said:
JudgeMental said:
party_pants said:OK. Makes sense. Staffies being the most popular bogan breed around here I’m not surprised. Probably on the point of getting evicted if they don’t get rid of the dog, so they just get rid of it.
staffies are lovely dogs.
there’s probably one lovely one, somewhere. Yes.
I guess I have been fortunate to have only known good ones.
dv said:
we dig
party_pants said:
JudgeMental said:
party_pants said:OK. Makes sense. Staffies being the most popular bogan breed around here I’m not surprised. Probably on the point of getting evicted if they don’t get rid of the dog, so they just get rid of it.
staffies are lovely dogs.
there’s probably one lovely one, somewhere. Yes.
Staffies are not pit bulls.
I’m not keen on Sharpeis either. Often not trained properly.
>>Most adult Shar-Pei puppies need early socialization with children, strangers, and other mammals. The Shar-Pei is often suspicious of strangers, which pertains to their origin as a guard dog. It is a very independent and reserved breed.<<
Wikipedia
(As I write this, The Pug is behind me “killing” a floppy dog toy. He destroyed the 5 squeakers in it within an hour of getting it)
dv said:
Did I or did I not see that Abbott bust with a crown of onions the other day on the news?
https://www.thecourier.com.au/story/4722032/abbott-onion-crown-causes-a-stir/
It was a few years ago. It must have been mentioned with the current statue stuff.
JudgeMental said:
LOL, so much wrong with this.
what about when skilled space agents landed a probe on a comet and then had to apologise for James Bond, then what
buffy said:
dv said:
Did I or did I not see that Abbott bust with a crown of onions the other day on the news?
What’s worse is that they go on and complain about a bit of paint on them, not like we can just wash some blown up caves and voilà back to the way they were right ¿
buffy said:
dv said:
Did I or did I not see that Abbott bust with a crown of onions the other day on the news?
People did all sorts of hilarious things to it when it was first installed. I dropped in to see it with MrsRule at the time and found it had been decorated with Budgie Smugglers and an onion.
https://www.crikey.com.au/2020/06/09/nine-liberal-war-on-industry-super/
party_pants said:
JudgeMental said:
party_pants said:OK. Makes sense. Staffies being the most popular bogan breed around here I’m not surprised. Probably on the point of getting evicted if they don’t get rid of the dog, so they just get rid of it.
staffies are lovely dogs.
there’s probably one lovely one, somewhere. Yes.
There are two good ones here. I’m also wearing a flanno atm…
I’ve known a couple of really good staffies. A couple of useless staffies. And one really suspect one.
poikilotherm said:
party_pants said:
JudgeMental said:staffies are lovely dogs.
there’s probably one lovely one, somewhere. Yes.
There are two good ones here. I’m also wearing a flanno atm…
me too. no dogs though.
Who owns them toes?
PermeateFree said:
![]()
Who owns them toes?
I don’t know but it’s not Party Pants.
Peak Warming Man said:
PermeateFree said:
![]()
Who owns them toes?
I don’t know but it’s not Party Pants.
way too pretty to be mine
CLOSEUP ON INA
A close view of the unusual Ina formation from the powerful Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter Camera. It can be hard to see which parts of the terrain rise and which fall. It may help to point out that the darker areas in this image are generally higher than the light areas, the lower part of the picture is closer to the camera than the top part, and the light is coming from the lower left.

Bubblecar said:
CLOSEUP ON INAA close view of the unusual Ina formation from the powerful Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter Camera. It can be hard to see which parts of the terrain rise and which fall. It may help to point out that the darker areas in this image are generally higher than the light areas, the lower part of the picture is closer to the camera than the top part, and the light is coming from the lower left.
nice
For three days, Facebook has been blocking an article from The Guardian from being shared on their platform, and even banned users for up to 30 days for sharing it. So we wrote this story about it, and now people are being blocked from sharing this story as well. As one reader – who was banned for 24 hours for sharing the first story on Saturday, and then banned again tonight for sharing this story – commented: “I’m blocked for posting an article about people being blocked for posting an article about an article that Facebook blocked.”
Facebook blocks and bans users for sharing Guardian article showing Aboriginal men in chains
Social media site incorrectly removed historical photo on grounds of nudity, then for three days blocked and even banned users who posted link to article
Facebook has blocked and in some cases banned users who tried to share a Guardian article about the site incorrectly blocking an image of Aboriginal men in chains.
On Saturday, Guardian Australia reported that Facebook had apologised for incorrectly preventing an Australian user from sharing the photo from the 1890s.
The post was made in the context of the Australian prime minister, Scott Morrison, claiming there was no slavery in Australia, before he backed down on those comments a day later.
The post was removed by Facebook and the man had his account restricted, with Facebook claiming the photo contained nudity and was in breach of the social media site’s community standards.
The post was restored after Guardian Australia asked Facebook whether the photo had been flagged in error. Facebook apologised to the user late on Friday and restored the post.
A spokeswoman for Facebook said the photo was removed by the automated system in error.
“We apologise for this mistake,” she said.
However, dozens of Guardian readers have since reported that when they tried to post a link to the article on their profiles they received message that the post violated the same community standards.
The man who first posted the image to his profile was among those unable to share the news article.
Several readers were even banned from posting on Facebook for up to 30 days for attempting to share the article.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/jun/15/facebook-blocks-bans-users-sharing-guardian-article-showing-aboriginal-men-in-chains

Strange-shaped Ryder Crater on the moon.

Boulders, slopes, and shadows inside Ryder Crater. Distance across base of shadow is about 1800 meters.
![]()
dv said:
For three days, Facebook has been blocking an article from The Guardian from being shared on their platform, and even banned users for up to 30 days for sharing it. So we wrote this story about it, and now people are being blocked from sharing this story as well.
As one reader – who was banned for 24 hours for sharing the first story on Saturday, and then banned again tonight for sharing this story – commented: “I’m blocked for posting an article about people being blocked for posting an article about an article that Facebook blocked.”
Facebook blocks and bans users for sharing Guardian article showing Aboriginal men in chains
Social media site incorrectly removed historical photo on grounds of nudity, then for three days blocked and even banned users who posted link to articleFacebook has blocked and in some cases banned users who tried to share a Guardian article about the site incorrectly blocking an image of Aboriginal men in chains.
On Saturday, Guardian Australia reported that Facebook had apologised for incorrectly preventing an Australian user from sharing the photo from the 1890s.
The post was made in the context of the Australian prime minister, Scott Morrison, claiming there was no slavery in Australia, before he backed down on those comments a day later.
The post was removed by Facebook and the man had his account restricted, with Facebook claiming the photo contained nudity and was in breach of the social media site’s community standards.
The post was restored after Guardian Australia asked Facebook whether the photo had been flagged in error. Facebook apologised to the user late on Friday and restored the post.
A spokeswoman for Facebook said the photo was removed by the automated system in error.
“We apologise for this mistake,” she said.
However, dozens of Guardian readers have since reported that when they tried to post a link to the article on their profiles they received message that the post violated the same community standards.
The man who first posted the image to his profile was among those unable to share the news article.
Several readers were even banned from posting on Facebook for up to 30 days for attempting to share the article.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/jun/15/facebook-blocks-bans-users-sharing-guardian-article-showing-aboriginal-men-in-chains
maybe post a pic of a group of white men wearing speedos and see if that violates and rules.
JudgeMental said:
dv said:
For three days, Facebook has been blocking an article from The Guardian from being shared on their platform, and even banned users for up to 30 days for sharing it. So we wrote this story about it, and now people are being blocked from sharing this story as well.
As one reader – who was banned for 24 hours for sharing the first story on Saturday, and then banned again tonight for sharing this story – commented: “I’m blocked for posting an article about people being blocked for posting an article about an article that Facebook blocked.”
Facebook blocks and bans users for sharing Guardian article showing Aboriginal men in chains
Social media site incorrectly removed historical photo on grounds of nudity, then for three days blocked and even banned users who posted link to articleFacebook has blocked and in some cases banned users who tried to share a Guardian article about the site incorrectly blocking an image of Aboriginal men in chains.
On Saturday, Guardian Australia reported that Facebook had apologised for incorrectly preventing an Australian user from sharing the photo from the 1890s.
The post was made in the context of the Australian prime minister, Scott Morrison, claiming there was no slavery in Australia, before he backed down on those comments a day later.
The post was removed by Facebook and the man had his account restricted, with Facebook claiming the photo contained nudity and was in breach of the social media site’s community standards.
The post was restored after Guardian Australia asked Facebook whether the photo had been flagged in error. Facebook apologised to the user late on Friday and restored the post.
A spokeswoman for Facebook said the photo was removed by the automated system in error.
“We apologise for this mistake,” she said.
However, dozens of Guardian readers have since reported that when they tried to post a link to the article on their profiles they received message that the post violated the same community standards.
The man who first posted the image to his profile was among those unable to share the news article.
Several readers were even banned from posting on Facebook for up to 30 days for attempting to share the article.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/jun/15/facebook-blocks-bans-users-sharing-guardian-article-showing-aboriginal-men-in-chains
maybe post a pic of a group of white men wearing speedos and see if that violates and rules.
any
Ryder crater is rather oddly shaped; is it two craters or one? It is 17 km in the long direction and 13 km in its shortest dimension. The western floor of the crater is about 1500 meters below the western rim, while the eastern rim is 3000 meters above the same floor. The eastern shelf, seen in the previous image, is 5000 meters above the western rim! Central crater in this image.

http://lroc.sese.asu.edu/posts/503
JudgeMental said:
dv said:
For three days, Facebook has been blocking an article from The Guardian from being shared on their platform, and even banned users for up to 30 days for sharing it. So we wrote this story about it, and now people are being blocked from sharing this story as well.
As one reader – who was banned for 24 hours for sharing the first story on Saturday, and then banned again tonight for sharing this story – commented: “I’m blocked for posting an article about people being blocked for posting an article about an article that Facebook blocked.”
Facebook blocks and bans users for sharing Guardian article showing Aboriginal men in chains
Social media site incorrectly removed historical photo on grounds of nudity, then for three days blocked and even banned users who posted link to articleFacebook has blocked and in some cases banned users who tried to share a Guardian article about the site incorrectly blocking an image of Aboriginal men in chains.
On Saturday, Guardian Australia reported that Facebook had apologised for incorrectly preventing an Australian user from sharing the photo from the 1890s.
The post was made in the context of the Australian prime minister, Scott Morrison, claiming there was no slavery in Australia, before he backed down on those comments a day later.
The post was removed by Facebook and the man had his account restricted, with Facebook claiming the photo contained nudity and was in breach of the social media site’s community standards.
The post was restored after Guardian Australia asked Facebook whether the photo had been flagged in error. Facebook apologised to the user late on Friday and restored the post.
A spokeswoman for Facebook said the photo was removed by the automated system in error.
“We apologise for this mistake,” she said.
However, dozens of Guardian readers have since reported that when they tried to post a link to the article on their profiles they received message that the post violated the same community standards.
The man who first posted the image to his profile was among those unable to share the news article.
Several readers were even banned from posting on Facebook for up to 30 days for attempting to share the article.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/jun/15/facebook-blocks-bans-users-sharing-guardian-article-showing-aboriginal-men-in-chains
maybe post a pic of a group of white men wearing speedos and see if that violates and rules.
dv said:
For three days, Facebook has been blocking an article from The Guardian from being shared on their platform, and even banned users for up to 30 days for sharing it. So we wrote this story about it, and now people are being blocked from sharing this story as well.
As one reader – who was banned for 24 hours for sharing the first story on Saturday, and then banned again tonight for sharing this story – commented: “I’m blocked for posting an article about people being blocked for posting an article about an article that Facebook blocked.”
Facebook blocks and bans users for sharing Guardian article showing Aboriginal men in chains
Social media site incorrectly removed historical photo on grounds of nudity, then for three days blocked and even banned users who posted link to articleFacebook has blocked and in some cases banned users who tried to share a Guardian article about the site incorrectly blocking an image of Aboriginal men in chains.
On Saturday, Guardian Australia reported that Facebook had apologised for incorrectly preventing an Australian user from sharing the photo from the 1890s.
The post was made in the context of the Australian prime minister, Scott Morrison, claiming there was no slavery in Australia, before he backed down on those comments a day later.
The post was removed by Facebook and the man had his account restricted, with Facebook claiming the photo contained nudity and was in breach of the social media site’s community standards.
The post was restored after Guardian Australia asked Facebook whether the photo had been flagged in error. Facebook apologised to the user late on Friday and restored the post.
A spokeswoman for Facebook said the photo was removed by the automated system in error.
“We apologise for this mistake,” she said.
However, dozens of Guardian readers have since reported that when they tried to post a link to the article on their profiles they received message that the post violated the same community standards.
The man who first posted the image to his profile was among those unable to share the news article.
Several readers were even banned from posting on Facebook for up to 30 days for attempting to share the article.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/jun/15/facebook-blocks-bans-users-sharing-guardian-article-showing-aboriginal-men-in-chains
I bet there’s a bunch of people who feel strongly enough about their pet political cause to learn how the major social media automated restriction, review, and decision processes work. Anyone capable of drawing up a decision table would have that sussed out with a couple of hours of work. I wonder if there’s any penalty for vexatious complaint? You could seriously manipulate the media.
I’ve heard news reports that the major social media sites have trapped thousand of political propaganda pages that (they believe) are run by governments.
Does anyone remember me jumping up and down about the RM Williams ads that were being replaced faster than Facebook could shut them down? Went on for months? These, and the number of people who fall for the ‘Like and Share’ Giveaway scams makes me think serious cyber vulnerabilities.
JudgeMental said:
dv said:
For three days, Facebook has been blocking an article from The Guardian from being shared on their platform, and even banned users for up to 30 days for sharing it. So we wrote this story about it, and now people are being blocked from sharing this story as well.
As one reader – who was banned for 24 hours for sharing the first story on Saturday, and then banned again tonight for sharing this story – commented: “I’m blocked for posting an article about people being blocked for posting an article about an article that Facebook blocked.”
Facebook blocks and bans users for sharing Guardian article showing Aboriginal men in chains
Social media site incorrectly removed historical photo on grounds of nudity, then for three days blocked and even banned users who posted link to articleFacebook has blocked and in some cases banned users who tried to share a Guardian article about the site incorrectly blocking an image of Aboriginal men in chains.
On Saturday, Guardian Australia reported that Facebook had apologised for incorrectly preventing an Australian user from sharing the photo from the 1890s.
The post was made in the context of the Australian prime minister, Scott Morrison, claiming there was no slavery in Australia, before he backed down on those comments a day later.
The post was removed by Facebook and the man had his account restricted, with Facebook claiming the photo contained nudity and was in breach of the social media site’s community standards.
The post was restored after Guardian Australia asked Facebook whether the photo had been flagged in error. Facebook apologised to the user late on Friday and restored the post.
A spokeswoman for Facebook said the photo was removed by the automated system in error.
“We apologise for this mistake,” she said.
However, dozens of Guardian readers have since reported that when they tried to post a link to the article on their profiles they received message that the post violated the same community standards.
The man who first posted the image to his profile was among those unable to share the news article.
Several readers were even banned from posting on Facebook for up to 30 days for attempting to share the article.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/jun/15/facebook-blocks-bans-users-sharing-guardian-article-showing-aboriginal-men-in-chains
maybe post a pic of a group of white men wearing speedos and see if that violates and rules.
That bust of Tony Abbott was flying pretty close to the limit.
:-)
dv said:
For three days, Facebook has been blocking an article from The Guardian from being shared on their platform, and even banned users for up to 30 days for sharing it. So we wrote this story about it, and now people are being blocked from sharing this story as well.
As one reader – who was banned for 24 hours for sharing the first story on Saturday, and then banned again tonight for sharing this story – commented: “I’m blocked for posting an article about people being blocked for posting an article about an article that Facebook blocked.”
Facebook blocks and bans users for sharing Guardian article showing Aboriginal men in chains
Social media site incorrectly removed historical photo on grounds of nudity, then for three days blocked and even banned users who posted link to articleFacebook has blocked and in some cases banned users who tried to share a Guardian article about the site incorrectly blocking an image of Aboriginal men in chains.
On Saturday, Guardian Australia reported that Facebook had apologised for incorrectly preventing an Australian user from sharing the photo from the 1890s.
The post was made in the context of the Australian prime minister, Scott Morrison, claiming there was no slavery in Australia, before he backed down on those comments a day later.
The post was removed by Facebook and the man had his account restricted, with Facebook claiming the photo contained nudity and was in breach of the social media site’s community standards.
The post was restored after Guardian Australia asked Facebook whether the photo had been flagged in error. Facebook apologised to the user late on Friday and restored the post.
A spokeswoman for Facebook said the photo was removed by the automated system in error.
“We apologise for this mistake,” she said.
However, dozens of Guardian readers have since reported that when they tried to post a link to the article on their profiles they received message that the post violated the same community standards.
The man who first posted the image to his profile was among those unable to share the news article.
Several readers were even banned from posting on Facebook for up to 30 days for attempting to share the article.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/jun/15/facebook-blocks-bans-users-sharing-guardian-article-showing-aboriginal-men-in-chains
https://www.newsweek.com/facebook-donald-trump-suspendthepres-experiement-post-tweet-flagged-inciting-violence-1510418
For the first time in my life, I can’t go for a holiday because of COVID-19.
Previously it was because I couldn’t afford it.
Minerals council of Australia is advertising themselves on the TV again. Destroying ancient relics must be bad for PR.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-15/marinus-undersea-cable-national-recovery-project/12354842
Basslink 2 plan. I’m not sure it adds up.
sarahs mum said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-15/marinus-undersea-cable-national-recovery-project/12354842Basslink 2 plan. I’m not sure it adds up.
Tassie Hydro have been planning this for a few years and it’s the only major project they are currently even vaguely interested in. I did some work with them last year on a different project that I thought may have some legs but they lost interest and shut it down.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jun/15/liberal-senators-knee-on-the-throat-comment-about-queensland-premier-abhorrent-labor-says
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-15/marinus-undersea-cable-national-recovery-project/12354842Basslink 2 plan. I’m not sure it adds up.
Tassie Hydro have been planning this for a few years and it’s the only major project they are currently even vaguely interested in. I did some work with them last year on a different project that I thought may have some legs but they lost interest and shut it down.
Last time I heard a rumour it was going to leave from Smithton. And head Geelongish.
But the lakes have been low lots in recent times. It feels like it doesnt add up.
How many people have really died from covid-19 so far?
Looking at how many more people are dying than usual gives an idea of the coronavirus pandemic’s true effect – and suggests a far higher death toll in many countries
HEALTH 29 April 2020
By Michael Le Page
New Scientist Default Image
Michael Dantas/Afp Via Getty Images
WITH few countries doing enough testing to identify anywhere near all the deaths caused by the coronavirus, looking at how many more people are dying than usual is a better way of assessing the pandemic’s effect.
Why are the covid-19 death counts underestimates?
Reported coronavirus deaths are typically severely ill people who have tested positive for the coronavirus in a hospital. However, many people who have died may not have been tested – especially those who died at home or in a care home. Looking at the number of excess deaths suggests the true death toll has been higher than the number reported in many places, including Italy, Spain, Sweden, and England and Wales.
What are “excess deaths”?
It is how many more people are dying than would be expected. For instance, at this time of year, normally around 50,000 people die each week in the 24 European countries that report deaths to the EuroMOMO monitoring scheme. This has shot up to about 90,000, according to the latest numbers, which aren’t yet complete.
How big is the disparity with official counts?
It varies. One study estimates that the coronavirus had caused the deaths of 52,000 people in Italy by 18 April (medRxiv, doi.org/ds6s) – more than double the reported figure. Similarly, a Financial Times analysis suggests the virus had led to 45,000 deaths in the UK by 21 April, more than twice the official figure then of 17,000.
Are all the excess deaths due to the coronavirus?
Figures from the UK’s Office for National Statistics indicate that the coronavirus is to blame for more than two-thirds of the excess deaths in England and Wales, based on the number of confirmed or suspected cases of covid-19 reported on death certificates.
That leaves roughly a third of excess deaths unexplained. Some of these may have been coronavirus cases without obvious symptoms, or cases where doctors weren’t confident enough to mention covid-19 on the death certificate. However, some of the unexplained excess deaths could be a result of more people dying of other causes, such as heart attack or stroke, because some are avoiding going to hospital due to the coronavirus. Emergency admissions figures from Public Health England suggest that attendance at hospital emergency departments in England was down about 50 per cent in April.
What about the crisis’s impact on hospitals?
It is certainly possible that some of the unexplained deaths may be indirect coronavirus deaths: people receiving less than the usual standard of medical care for a non-coronavirus condition due to the strain the virus is placing on healthcare systems.
Will we ever know the true toll of the virus?
Not exactly. But we will be able to get a much clearer picture once the crisis eventually ends and the overall number of deaths in 2020 and 2021 can be compared with other years.
What we do know for now is that most countries’ death tolls are undoubtedly underestimates – and for places including the US and Europe, many more deaths are still expected.
Read more: https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg24632804-100-how-many-people-have-really-died-from-covid-19-so-far/#ixzz6PRErGaci
Exotic fifth state of matter made on the International Space Station
SPACE 11 June 2020
By Jonathan O’Callaghan
New Scientist Default Image
Astronaut Christina Koch installing the Cold Atom Laboratory on the ISS
NASA/JSC
AN EXOTIC fifth type of matter has been created in one of the coldest places in the universe – a device on board the International Space Station (ISS).
The Cold Atom Laboratory (CAL) was launched to the ISS in 2018 to investigate a strange kind of matter, known as a Bose-Einstein condensate (BEC). This suitcase-sized device chills atoms of rubidium and potassium in a vacuum chamber, using laser light to slow their movement. Magnetic fields then contain the resulting cloud of atoms, which is cooled to nearly absolute zero at -273°C, producing a BEC.
This chilly substance was initially theorised by Albert Einstein and Satyendra Nath Bose in the early 1920s as the fifth state of matter, following solids, liquids, gases and plasma. It is a supercooled gas that no longer behaves as individual atoms and particles, but rather an entity in a single quantum state.
“This is pretty remarkable because this gives you a macroscopic-sized quantum mechanical object,” says Maike Lachmann at Leibniz University Hannover in Germany.
BECs have been produced in a variety of experiments on Earth since 1995, but these are hindered by gravity, which collapses the clouds in a split second. The microgravity environment of the ISS keeps them stable for multiple seconds, allowing them to be studied in more detail.
Robert Thompson at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory and his colleagues have been operating the CAL remotely and have published their first results. While mostly just a demonstration that the machine works, there are some tantalising glimpses of what might be possible one day.
“It’s more of a technological achievement,” says Thompson. “But in the future, it will enable a wide spectrum of science.”
The initial results show that BECs behave differently in orbit. The team found that about half of the atoms form into a halo-like cloud around the main body of the BEC. On the ground, these atoms would simply fall due to gravity, but in microgravity on the ISS, the cloud remains suspended (Nature, s41586-020-2346-1 DOI: 10.1038/s41586-020-2346-1).
In the near future, the researchers hope to use the experiment to watch atoms collide on a quantum level. They also want to probe ripples in space-time called gravitational waves by monitoring disturbances in the movement of the atoms.
Looking further ahead, the experiment could also tackle ideas like Einstein’s equivalence principle, which says that all masses in a given gravitational field accelerate in the same way. Tests in microgravity could reveal whether there are any violations of the principle. “It’s usually unwise to bet against Einstein,” says Thompson. “But it’s always important to test these things.”
Read more: https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg24632862-300-exotic-fifth-state-of-matter-made-on-the-international-space-station/#ixzz6PRFexDsM
Good Evening.
HomeBuilder might be the most-complex least-equitable construction jobs program ever devised
https://www.architectureanddesign.com.au/features/features-articles/homebuilder-might-be-the-most-complex
sarahs mum said:
HomeBuilder might be the most-complex least-equitable construction jobs program ever devisedhttps://www.architectureanddesign.com.au/features/features-articles/homebuilder-might-be-the-most-complex
Yeah, sounds like it. If you’re looking to add a marble bathroom to the west wing of your house you might get it, but not many others qualify.
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
HomeBuilder might be the most-complex least-equitable construction jobs program ever devisedhttps://www.architectureanddesign.com.au/features/features-articles/homebuilder-might-be-the-most-complex
Yeah, sounds like it. If you’re looking to add a marble bathroom to the west wing of your house you might get it, but not many others qualify.
It’s almost like they are preplanning not to have to spend the money.
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
HomeBuilder might be the most-complex least-equitable construction jobs program ever devisedhttps://www.architectureanddesign.com.au/features/features-articles/homebuilder-might-be-the-most-complex
Yeah, sounds like it. If you’re looking to add a marble bathroom to the west wing of your house you might get it, but not many others qualify.
It’s almost like they are preplanning not to have to spend the money.
Or that they’ve been scrambling for ideas to keep the economy afloat and the wolf away from peoples doors. They’ve down quite well so far and I can forgive the occasional stumble.
sm, you posted a graph today that came from the Gran and I’ve been looking for the article it came from without success. Can you please give me a hint :)
well look they have made noises like there might be some infrastructure spending so who knows
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:Yeah, sounds like it. If you’re looking to add a marble bathroom to the west wing of your house you might get it, but not many others qualify.
It’s almost like they are preplanning not to have to spend the money.
Or that they’ve been scrambling for ideas to keep the economy afloat and the wolf away from peoples doors. They’ve down quite well so far and I can forgive the occasional stumble.
Well yes. Not everything done in response to these unusual times will be done perfectly.
sibeen said:
sm, you posted a graph today that came from the Gran and I’ve been looking for the article it came from without success. Can you please give me a hint :)
My friend Yvette posted the meme. It links to one of her friends.
getting bit cold now, second fire going, won’t be far off shuteyes
extended yawn
btm said:
For the first time in my life, I can’t go for a holiday because of COVID-19.
Previously it was because I couldn’t afford it.
chuckle
monkey skipper said:
How many people have really died from covid-19 so far?
Looking at how many more people are dying than usual gives an idea of the coronavirus pandemic’s true effect – and suggests a far higher death toll in many countriesHEALTH 29 April 2020
By Michael Le PageNew Scientist Default Image
Michael Dantas/Afp Via Getty ImagesWITH few countries doing enough testing to identify anywhere near all the deaths caused by the coronavirus, looking at how many more people are dying than usual is a better way of assessing the pandemic’s effect.
Why are the covid-19 death counts underestimates?
Reported coronavirus deaths are typically severely ill people who have tested positive for the coronavirus in a hospital. However, many people who have died may not have been tested – especially those who died at home or in a care home. Looking at the number of excess deaths suggests the true death toll has been higher than the number reported in many places, including Italy, Spain, Sweden, and England and Wales.
What are “excess deaths”?
It is how many more people are dying than would be expected. For instance, at this time of year, normally around 50,000 people die each week in the 24 European countries that report deaths to the EuroMOMO monitoring scheme. This has shot up to about 90,000, according to the latest numbers, which aren’t yet complete.
How big is the disparity with official counts?
It varies. One study estimates that the coronavirus had caused the deaths of 52,000 people in Italy by 18 April (medRxiv, doi.org/ds6s) – more than double the reported figure. Similarly, a Financial Times analysis suggests the virus had led to 45,000 deaths in the UK by 21 April, more than twice the official figure then of 17,000.
Are all the excess deaths due to the coronavirus?
Figures from the UK’s Office for National Statistics indicate that the coronavirus is to blame for more than two-thirds of the excess deaths in England and Wales, based on the number of confirmed or suspected cases of covid-19 reported on death certificates.
That leaves roughly a third of excess deaths unexplained. Some of these may have been coronavirus cases without obvious symptoms, or cases where doctors weren’t confident enough to mention covid-19 on the death certificate. However, some of the unexplained excess deaths could be a result of more people dying of other causes, such as heart attack or stroke, because some are avoiding going to hospital due to the coronavirus. Emergency admissions figures from Public Health England suggest that attendance at hospital emergency departments in England was down about 50 per cent in April.
What about the crisis’s impact on hospitals?
It is certainly possible that some of the unexplained deaths may be indirect coronavirus deaths: people receiving less than the usual standard of medical care for a non-coronavirus condition due to the strain the virus is placing on healthcare systems.
Will we ever know the true toll of the virus?
Not exactly. But we will be able to get a much clearer picture once the crisis eventually ends and the overall number of deaths in 2020 and 2021 can be compared with other years.
What we do know for now is that most countries’ death tolls are undoubtedly underestimates – and for places including the US and Europe, many more deaths are still expected.
Read more: https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg24632804-100-how-many-people-have-really-died-from-covid-19-so-far/#ixzz6PRErGaci
not only a stretched healthcare system and people perhaps not getting treatment for other things, but also the extra stress many people endured, are enduring
Trying to get to sleep but the possums on the roof can’t seem to get away from home tonight. They have a few dreys at ours and our neighbour’s place and usually leave just after dusk to do their thing in the neighbouring bushland during the night. It’s as though one forgot to bring their jumper, so back home again, then mum got paranoid that she’d left the stove on etc. They don’t sound like cute little possums on the roof at this hour.
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 9 degrees, dark and gently raining.
Overcast and heading for 22 here. Currently 16, “feels like” 14.
Sunny and 13. Heading for maybe 19.
China reports progress in ultra-secure satellite transmission
By William J. Broad
June 16, 2020 — 6.55am
New York: The world of artificial satellites, silent in the void of space, might seem pacific. In fact it’s a high-flying battlefield rife with jamming, snooping, blinding, spoofing, hacking and hostility among the planet’s growing array of spacecraft and space powers.
Now, Chinese scientists report new progress in building what appears to be the first unbreakable information link between an orbiting craft and its terrestrial controllers, raising the odds that Beijing may one day possess a super-secure global communications network.
Read more:
https://www.theage.com.au/world/asia/china-reports-progress-in-ultra-secure-satellite-transmission-20200616-p552×0.html
Good morning everyone.
It’s 18.0°C and 85% RH and mostly cloudy with variable light breezes here. The large, very black cloud to the south contrasts well with other white fluffy clouds, the bits of bright blue sky, and sunlight reflecting off house roofs.
Michael V said:
Good morning everyone.It’s 18.0°C and 85% RH and mostly cloudy with variable light breezes here. The large, very black cloud to the south contrasts well with other white fluffy clouds, the bits of bright blue sky, and sunlight reflecting off house roofs.
Sounds like good light for photos.
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 9 degrees, dark and gently raining.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
Good morning everyone.It’s 18.0°C and 85% RH and mostly cloudy with variable light breezes here. The large, very black cloud to the south contrasts well with other white fluffy clouds, the bits of bright blue sky, and sunlight reflecting off house roofs.
Sounds like good light for photos.
It probably would be, but I don’t have a working camera.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
Good morning everyone.It’s 18.0°C and 85% RH and mostly cloudy with variable light breezes here. The large, very black cloud to the south contrasts well with other white fluffy clouds, the bits of bright blue sky, and sunlight reflecting off house roofs.
Sounds like good light for photos.
It probably would be, but I don’t have a working camera.
That’s right. You told me that.
get the kitchen fire going need to, grab last last of hot coals from my bedroom
honeyeater out there saying good morn, sparrows too
all of seen of the sun, briefly, then clouds did what clouds do
When talking temperature, is the “feels like” temp arrived at by some sort of algorithm?
transition said:
get the kitchen fire going need to, grab last last of hot coals from my bedroomhoneyeater out there saying good morn, sparrows too
all of seen of the sun, briefly, then clouds did what clouds do
What you burnt the bedroom down? :)
kryten said:
transition said:
get the kitchen fire going need to, grab last last of hot coals from my bedroomhoneyeater out there saying good morn, sparrows too
all of seen of the sun, briefly, then clouds did what clouds do
What you burnt the bedroom down? :)
He moves the fires from room to room.
In other news, this morning on the radio they were talking about a vigilante group on the Gold Coast. Apparently there’s a gang of thieves targeting a specific neighbourhood on the GC. The men of the neighbourhood have formed a Dads Army and they patrol the streets with baseball bats. One of the guys is quoted as saying that if there are intruders, they will get beaten up.
Divine Angel said:
In other news, this morning on the radio they were talking about a vigilante group on the Gold Coast. Apparently there’s a gang of thieves targeting a specific neighbourhood on the GC. The men of the neighbourhood have formed a Dads Army and they patrol the streets with baseball bats. One of the guys is quoted as saying that if there are intruders, they will get beaten up.
So moonlight walks or trysts are out of the question?
Divine Angel said:
When talking temperature, is the “feels like” temp arrived at by some sort of algorithm?
Yes. Temperature, humidity and wind.
https://planetcalc.com/2089/
Seeyas…off on the meat collection run. Also need to get a spark plug and an air filter for my mower while we are out. It’s running chuggy and throwing some black smoke.
buffy said:
Seeyas…off on the meat collection run. Also need to get a spark plug and an air filter for my mower while we are out. It’s running chuggy and throwing some black smoke.
Get an air filter while you are at it.
Divine Angel said:
In other news, this morning on the radio they were talking about a vigilante group on the Gold Coast. Apparently there’s a gang of thieves targeting a specific neighbourhood on the GC. The men of the neighbourhood have formed a Dads Army and they patrol the streets with baseball bats. One of the guys is quoted as saying that if there are intruders, they will get beaten up.
sigh
I popped into the library yesterday to return some books and see if the one I placed a reservation on before COVID is available*. The library looks a lot different now! There’s tape on the floors segmenting queues depending on what you want to do eg computer use, browsing, etc. A librarian takes your details from your library card for contact tracing. You’re only allowed half an hour browsing, and they’ll come in and tell you to leave (as what happened to the guy socially-distanced next to me). Only 20 people allowed in the library at a time, and there’s markers all the way down the stairs and through the carpark as to where you should stand. All the seating Has been taped off and put away. You place your returned books on the trolley and a librarian disinfects them before the books are returned to the shelves. The self-serve counters are regularly sanitised and there’s hand sanitiser before you enter the library.
*They’re no longer advising when your reservation is available. At the beginning of lockdown, the library placed a due date of 30 June across all borrowed books, so who knows when my reservation will actually come in. I’m the next in line though.
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
Seeyas…off on the meat collection run. Also need to get a spark plug and an air filter for my mower while we are out. It’s running chuggy and throwing some black smoke.Get an air filter while you are at it.
Another one?
Anyhoo, I am off to write the thrilling conclusion to my second novel. Well, the first draft of it anyway. I wrote over 5000 words yesterday, and am up to a smidge over 70,000. May not get the whole denouement done today, but I will start. I’m aiming for about 80,000 words in the first draft. I already know the parts that need fixing.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
Seeyas…off on the meat collection run. Also need to get a spark plug and an air filter for my mower while we are out. It’s running chuggy and throwing some black smoke.Get an air filter while you are at it.
Another one?
Did she already get one?
Divine Angel said:
Anyhoo, I am off to write the thrilling conclusion to my second novel. Well, the first draft of it anyway. I wrote over 5000 words yesterday, and am up to a smidge over 70,000. May not get the whole denouement done today, but I will start. I’m aiming for about 80,000 words in the first draft. I already know the parts that need fixing.
Haven’t read your first one yet. Don’t know it’s title.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:Get an air filter while you are at it.
Another one?
Did she already get one?
buffy said she was getting a spark plug and an air filter.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:Get an air filter while you are at it.
Another one?
Did she already get one?
Funny how I can completely miss bits of sentences? Strange indeed.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:Another one?
Did she already get one?
buffy said she was getting a spark plug and an air filter.
I just noticed. ;)
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:Did she already get one?
buffy said she was getting a spark plug and an air filter.
I just noticed. ;)
Although, I’ll quote this anecdote froom my father in law.
Took the EH in for a service. The mechanic asked, “don’t you believe in changing spark plugs?” FiL said, “Only if they are dead, why?”
Mechanic replied, “these still have the original paiint on them. They have done 100,000 miles”.
“Passionfruit growers are pleading with supermarkets to more than halve the price of single pieces of fruit, to give consumers incentive to help them move a ‘tsunami’ of product.”
I’ve been doing my share. Regularly buy about $20 worth a week from Aldi. The cheapest and the best in my town.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:Another one?
Did she already get one?
Funny how I can completely miss bits of sentences? Strange indeed.
the ghost in the machine, rb, it’s a thief
transition said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:Did she already get one?
Funny how I can completely miss bits of sentences? Strange indeed.
the ghost in the machine, rb, it’s a thief
lurking memory nicker.
Can anyone ID the shark in this video? https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-16/shark-video-teenagers-bulli-thirroul-austinmer-nsw-south-coast/12355972
roughbarked said:
Can anyone ID the shark in this video? https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-16/shark-video-teenagers-bulli-thirroul-austinmer-nsw-south-coast/12355972
Maybe, maybe not. I certainly can’t.
Greetings
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Can anyone ID the shark in this video? https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-16/shark-video-teenagers-bulli-thirroul-austinmer-nsw-south-coast/12355972
Maybe, maybe not. I certainly can’t.
Could it be a grey nurse, would be my question. It certainly looks a bit like one.
Cymek said:
Greetings
Come in planet earth.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Can anyone ID the shark in this video? https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-16/shark-video-teenagers-bulli-thirroul-austinmer-nsw-south-coast/12355972
Maybe, maybe not. I certainly can’t.
Could it be a grey nurse, would be my question. It certainly looks a bit like one.
https://www.environment.gov.au/biodiversity/threatened/publications/factsheet-grey-nurse-shark-carcharias-taurus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_nurse_shark_conservation
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:Maybe, maybe not. I certainly can’t.
Could it be a grey nurse, would be my question. It certainly looks a bit like one.
https://www.environment.gov.au/biodiversity/threatened/publications/factsheet-grey-nurse-shark-carcharias-taurus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_nurse_shark_conservation
My first thought was bronze whaler.
Peak Warming Man said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:Could it be a grey nurse, would be my question. It certainly looks a bit like one.
https://www.environment.gov.au/biodiversity/threatened/publications/factsheet-grey-nurse-shark-carcharias-taurus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_nurse_shark_conservation
My first thought was bronze whaler.
It is too fleeting a glimpse and I’m no shark officionado.
Steve Backshall swims with all species as did Steve Irwiin and it wasn’t a shark that took him down.
My daughter and I went for a walk around the block last night, took the ferret with us, she walked a decent amount but had to be redirected on task as she want to go onto peoples property and sniff around
Divine Angel said:
Aren’t red cars an extension of penis?
Divine Angel said:
Cymek said:
My daughter and I went for a walk around the block last night, took the ferret with us, she walked a decent amount but had to be redirected on task as she want to go onto peoples property and sniff around
Cymek & Ferret’s Excellent Adventure
roughbarked said:
Divine Angel said:
Aren’t red cars an extension of penis?
swallowed the red peel
Unsure if satire or not:
Rule 303 said:
Unsure if satire or not:
that’s not math that’s meth
SCIENCE said:
Rule 303 said:
Unsure if satire or not:
that’s not math that’s meth
SCIENCE said:
Rule 303 said:
Unsure if satire or not:
that’s not math that’s meth
And don’t get me started on pi, the only pie is the sort ma makes from the varmints and road kill I give her, possum is my favourite
Cymek said:
SCIENCE said:
Rule 303 said:
Unsure if satire or not:
that’s not math that’s meth
And don’t get me started on pi, the only pie is the sort ma makes from the varmints and road kill I give her, possum is my favourite
Rule 303 said:
Unsure if satire or not:
It may be, or may not be.
Either way it is arrant nonsense, and shouldn’t be shared.
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:
Unsure if satire or not:
It may be, or may not be.
Either way it is arrant nonsense, and shouldn’t be shared.
The finger thing wouldn’t always work, what happens if say a possum bit off a finger or gator took your whole hand(s)
Cymek said:
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:
Unsure if satire or not:
It may be, or may not be.
Either way it is arrant nonsense, and shouldn’t be shared.
The finger thing wouldn’t always work, what happens if say a possum bit off a finger or gator took your whole hand(s)
I recall one of these methamaticians clapping a circular saw blade to stop it wobbling. He always gets zero when he counts his fingers these days.
Rule 303 said:
Unsure if satire or not:
‘Stop Doing Maths’
captain_spalding said:
Rule 303 said:
Unsure if satire or not:
‘Stop Doing Maths’
Tamb said:
captain_spalding said:
Rule 303 said:
Unsure if satire or not:
‘Stop Doing Maths’
Beware. There maybe an african-american connection to the word math as there is to the word ho.
ah metho something else the wise ones in the USSA suggest
I love old Hollywood. Am watching a show on Netflix called Hollywood. A guy who wants to be an actor has taken a job as a gas station attendant/gigolo. One of the customers is a young Rock Hudson, using his real name, Roy Fitzgerald. I wouldn’t have known that had I not been currently reading a biography of him.
He had some very handsome boyfriends.
I should do something about lunch, or else my stomach will be grumbling when I pick up mini me
woman, she left a large pack of family assorted arnott’s biscuits on the table, open, right alongside my hot coffee
totally irresponsible thing to do, i’m feeling fragile, weak-willed today
transition said:
woman, she left a large pack of family assorted arnott’s biscuits on the table, open, right alongside my hot coffeetotally irresponsible thing to do, i’m feeling fragile, weak-willed today
knock off the chocolate round ones.
Sharpen those pencils and get set for ‘Life Drawing Live.’ Saturday 4 July on SBS and On Demand.
https://www.sbs.com.au/guide/article/2020/06/15/were-baring-all-biggest-live-life-drawing-class-australia-rove-mcmanus
‘Tenet’s release date has been pushed back two weeks.
Don’t watch this if you’re easily scared. Turn up the sound.
https://vm.tiktok.com/J1sFbva/
Divine Angel said:
I love old Hollywood. Am watching a show on Netflix called Hollywood. A guy who wants to be an actor has taken a job as a gas station attendant/gigolo. One of the customers is a young Rock Hudson, using his real name, Roy Fitzgerald. I wouldn’t have known that had I not been currently reading a biography of him.He had some very handsome boyfriends.
Meh…it’s 1940s Hollywood shot through a 2020s filter.
I’m back. Got a bit of reading to do to catch up.
Mushrooms are lifting their skirts now:
13th June:
15th June:
This afternoon:
But up enough to start seeing underneath too:
buffy said:
Mushrooms are lifting their skirts now:
13th June:
15th June:
This afternoon:
But up enough to start seeing underneath too:
Looks like you can’t wait to eat them.
PermeateFree said:
buffy said:
Mushrooms are lifting their skirts now:
13th June:
15th June:
This afternoon:
But up enough to start seeing underneath too:
Looks like you can’t wait to eat them.
I don’t intend to eat them. I’m almost certain they are ordinary field/forest agaricus, they are in the grass in the backyard under a couple of bluegums and a E. camaldulensis. They haven’t got the straight sides of the yellow stainers, which are all over town at the moment. Never the less, I’ll just keep photographing them as they go through their cycle because Mum used to go mushrooming when she was young and I try to put things in my letters to her that she might have some chance of remembering about.
Neophyte said:
Divine Angel said:
I love old Hollywood. Am watching a show on Netflix called Hollywood. A guy who wants to be an actor has taken a job as a gas station attendant/gigolo. One of the customers is a young Rock Hudson, using his real name, Roy Fitzgerald. I wouldn’t have known that had I not been currently reading a biography of him.He had some very handsome boyfriends.
Meh…it’s 1940s Hollywood shot through a 2020s filter.
Somewhat fictionalised too.
bump
Tonight: a nice batch of pumpkin, carrot & potato soup with smoked bacon off the bone in it.
Food report. I am roasting some chicken drumsticks, potato and pumpkin. To be accompanied by a quick stirfry of onion/celery/carrot. Gugelhupf for dessert. Last night for that for now. I’ve frozen more of it but not really interested in eating it every day for a week.
buffy said:
I’ve frozen more of it but not really interested in eating it every day for a week.
that’s quitter talk.
have a touch of aischrolatreia today.
JudgeMental said:
have a touch of aischrolatreia today.
You mud-wallowing pig.
JudgeMental said:
have a touch of aischrolatreia today.
There’s probably an ointment and patented applicator available for that.
Woodie said:
JudgeMental said:
have a touch of aischrolatreia today.
There’s probably an ointment and patented applicator available for that.
:)
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-16/kangaroo-island-dunnart-found-in-bushfire-ravaged-area/12360300
Michael V said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-16/kangaroo-island-dunnart-found-in-bushfire-ravaged-area/12360300
sooo it was the dunnart that dunnit?
I’m currently watching episodes of “F Troop”. In today’s atmosphere, it’s possibly the most un-woke, un-PC TV show ever….still funny, though.
JudgeMental said:
Michael V said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-16/kangaroo-island-dunnart-found-in-bushfire-ravaged-area/12360300
sooo it was the dunnart that dunnit?
They could get some tobacco sponsorship and be the House Of Dunnart.
Neophyte said:
JudgeMental said:
Michael V said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-16/kangaroo-island-dunnart-found-in-bushfire-ravaged-area/12360300
sooo it was the dunnart that dunnit?
They could get some tobacco sponsorship and be the House Of Dunnart.
when only the beast will do.
Woodie said:
JudgeMental said:
have a touch of aischrolatreia today.
There’s probably an ointment and patented applicator available for that.
Ask poik about it…
Neophyte said:
I’m currently watching episodes of “F Troop”. In today’s atmosphere, it’s possibly the most un-woke, un-PC TV show ever….still funny, though.
I don’t believe you.
Arts said:
Neophyte said:
I’m currently watching episodes of “F Troop”. In today’s atmosphere, it’s possibly the most un-woke, un-PC TV show ever….still funny, though.
I don’t believe you.
I’ve never watched it. It never struck me as something I would find funny.
Neophyte said:
JudgeMental said:
Michael V said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-16/kangaroo-island-dunnart-found-in-bushfire-ravaged-area/12360300
sooo it was the dunnart that dunnit?
They could get some tobacco sponsorship and be the House Of Dunnart.
There was probably some weird-looking UK military plane of the 1950s called the Fairey Dunnart.
New lamp for the living room arrived today. I’ll set it up later.
buffy said:
Arts said:
Neophyte said:
I’m currently watching episodes of “F Troop”. In today’s atmosphere, it’s possibly the most un-woke, un-PC TV show ever….still funny, though.
I don’t believe you.
I’ve never watched it. It never struck me as something I would find funny.
I’m easily amused :-)
Bubblecar said:
New lamp for the living room arrived today. I’ll set it up later.
Should be easy light work
I’ve done my books. So much easier than when I was running the business. I have to keep careful records this year because I will have to put in a tax return. There has been money into my account from selling Casterton etc, so it will all have to be accounted for. I don’t think I will have capital gains to pay on that. I had it valued when I stopped using it for work in mid 2017 and what I got for it was not quite what the valuation was. The accountant said that was when the clock would start for capital gains. And I will have to be able to account for deposits from a refund on the insurance on it. And a refund from a health fund because we changed providers. Just silly little stuff. After this year, it will be very, very straight forward.
Neophyte said:
buffy said:
Arts said:I don’t believe you.
I’ve never watched it. It never struck me as something I would find funny.
I’m easily amused :-)
my parents loved Kingswood country… I found it terrible, even as a small child… and so many others… fucking classic shows my arse..
the NDIS finally caught up with Mr Arts today… let’s see where this rollercoaster takes us..
Michael V said:
bump
lol
you have a bit of weather heading your way Boris. better get one of those jumpers out.
Arts said:
Neophyte said:
buffy said:I’ve never watched it. It never struck me as something I would find funny.
I’m easily amused :-)
my parents loved Kingswood country… I found it terrible, even as a small child… and so many others… fucking classic shows my arse..
That would be a classic show.
Michael V said:
Arts said:
Neophyte said:I’m easily amused :-)
my parents loved Kingswood country… I found it terrible, even as a small child… and so many others… fucking classic shows my arse..
That would be a classic show.
Hmm. I always thought the ‘classic’ meant great or outstanding.. but perhaps it just means dated.
Arts said:
Michael V said:
Arts said:my parents loved Kingswood country… I found it terrible, even as a small child… and so many others… fucking classic shows my arse..
That would be a classic show.
Hmm. I always thought the ‘classic’ meant great or outstanding.. but perhaps it just means dated.
although we do also use the term ‘classic Trump’ to describe something he does that is typical… so classic means typical … typical shows… makes more sense.
Arts said:
you have a bit of weather heading your way Boris. better get one of those jumpers out.
all clear atm. tomorrow sometime.


sarahs mum said:
they’ll be sorry when they need to replace all the statues with something.
sarahs mum said:
Social media manager as well? FMD.
if i were to become a superhero i’d call myself The Green Meteor.
Arts said:
the NDIS finally caught up with Mr Arts today… let’s see where this rollercoaster takes us..
How much time is he going to do?
Arts said:
Michael V said:
Arts said:my parents loved Kingswood country… I found it terrible, even as a small child… and so many others… fucking classic shows my arse..
That would be a classic show.
Hmm. I always thought the ‘classic’ meant great or outstanding.. but perhaps it just means dated.
Whoosh. That one went through to the keeper…
I’m on my high horse again. This time about the school’s inability to know the difference between where/were and affect/effect. I offered my paid services to proofread their fortnightly newsletters.
Divine Angel said:
sarahs mum said:
Social media manager as well? FMD.
as long as there are hawkers.
Michael V said:
Arts said:
Neophyte said:I’m easily amused :-)
my parents loved Kingswood country… I found it terrible, even as a small child… and so many others… fucking classic shows my arse..
That would be a classic show.
Kingswood Country is sooooo non-PC. Example:
Ted: All actors are poofs
Son (I forget his name): You can’t call Steve McQueen a poof!
Ted: He is too! Otherwise he’d be Steve McKing.
JudgeMental said:
if i were to become a superhero i’d call myself The Green Meteor.
I’d be Tunguska Superbollide
dv said:
Arts said:
the NDIS finally caught up with Mr Arts today… let’s see where this rollercoaster takes us..
How much time is he going to do?
we’ll see.
How menopause affects the brain | Lisa Mosconi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJZ8z_nTCZQ
dv said:
Arts said:
the NDIS finally caught up with Mr Arts today… let’s see where this rollercoaster takes us..
How much time is he going to do?
They’ll probably say he’s not disabled enough.
sarahs mum said:
Divine Angel said:
sarahs mum said:
Social media manager as well? FMD.
as long as there are hawkers.
And those hawkers treat their birds with love and respect.
dv said:
JudgeMental said:
if i were to become a superhero i’d call myself The Green Meteor.
I’d be Tunguska Superbollide
one hit wonder.
Michael V said:
Arts said:
Michael V said:That would be a classic show.
Hmm. I always thought the ‘classic’ meant great or outstanding.. but perhaps it just means dated.
Whoosh. That one went through to the keeper…
you should work on your delivery
Michael V said:
Arts said:
Michael V said:That would be a classic show.
Hmm. I always thought the ‘classic’ meant great or outstanding.. but perhaps it just means dated.
Whoosh. That one went through to the keeper…
Just as well :-)
Divine Angel said:
dv said:
Arts said:
the NDIS finally caught up with Mr Arts today… let’s see where this rollercoaster takes us..
How much time is he going to do?
They’ll probably say he’s not disabled enough.
or that he’s likely to recover
JudgeMental said:
dv said:
JudgeMental said:
if i were to become a superhero i’d call myself The Green Meteor.
I’d be Tunguska Superbollide
one hit wonder.
LOL
I am a superhero. I’m the Spellinator.
Arts said:
Divine Angel said:
dv said:How much time is he going to do?
They’ll probably say he’s not disabled enough.
or that he’s likely to recover
FWIW Spocky has a brother with Down Syndrome. His mother has to take him to the doctor once a year to confirm that it hasn’t magically cleared-up and send the paperwork to the government.
No, I’m not making that up.
Arts said:
Divine Angel said:
dv said:How much time is he going to do?
They’ll probably say he’s not disabled enough.
or that he’s likely to recover
FWIW Spocky has a brother with Down Syndrome. His mother has to take him to the doctor once a year to confirm that it hasn’t magically cleared-up and send the paperwork to the government.
No, I’m not making that up.
if people can get better after being turned into a newt then there is hope for all disabled people.
JudgeMental said:
dv said:
JudgeMental said:
if i were to become a superhero i’d call myself The Green Meteor.
I’d be Tunguska Superbollide
one hit wonder.
But everybody knows it was an exploding alien ship.
Probably caused by ET 5G
Coronavirus: Petition calls on UK to declare war on New Zealand ‘then immediately surrender’
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12340019
Spiny Norman said:
Arts said:
Divine Angel said:They’ll probably say he’s not disabled enough.
or that he’s likely to recover
FWIW Spocky has a brother with Down Syndrome. His mother has to take him to the doctor once a year to confirm that it hasn’t magically cleared-up and send the paperwork to the government.
No, I’m not making that up.
Hey-Zeuss!
Spiny Norman said:
Arts said:
Divine Angel said:They’ll probably say he’s not disabled enough.
or that he’s likely to recover
FWIW Spocky has a brother with Down Syndrome. His mother has to take him to the doctor once a year to confirm that it hasn’t magically cleared-up and send the paperwork to the government.
No, I’m not making that up.
I totally believe you.. we have to get a doctors report that Mr Arts is still paralysed every couple of years for the parking permit…
Mr Arts often jokes that he can stand up and walk around and does so when I am not there… but I know he’s lying because I put all the chocolate on the high shelves and it’s all still there as I left it every time.
Arts said:
Mr Arts often jokes that he can stand up and walk around and does so when I am not there… but I know he’s lying because I put all the chocolate on the high shelves and it’s all still there as I left it every time.
are they the same chocolates though?
Neophyte said:
Coronavirus: Petition calls on UK to declare war on New Zealand ‘then immediately surrender’https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12340019
LOLz
:)
JudgeMental said:
Arts said:
Mr Arts often jokes that he can stand up and walk around and does so when I am not there… but I know he’s lying because I put all the chocolate on the high shelves and it’s all still there as I left it every time.
are they the same chocolates though?
dammit.
Michael V said:
Neophyte said:
Coronavirus: Petition calls on UK to declare war on New Zealand ‘then immediately surrender’https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12340019
LOLz
:)
OK, having read the report I now understand the purpose of this strategy, and fully support it.
It would be an idea for Australia to do the same, but perhaps wait and see how it goes in the UK first.
After all, their need is greater.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:
Neophyte said:
Coronavirus: Petition calls on UK to declare war on New Zealand ‘then immediately surrender’https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12340019
LOLz
:)
OK, having read the report I now understand the purpose of this strategy, and fully support it.
It would be an idea for Australia to do the same, but perhaps wait and see how it goes in the UK first.
After all, their need is greater.
and has the highest death rate per head of population in the world,” the petition states.
—-
They should be doing better than that. They have a health system. Many of them are literate.
I think SM posted this earlier.
Divine Angel said:
I think SM posted this earlier.
:) Sarah passed it on to me.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-16/colonial-brewing-banned-from-eastern-state-liquor-store/12360122
Up until today I had never heard of this brewery.
party_pants said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-16/colonial-brewing-banned-from-eastern-state-liquor-store/12360122Up until today I had never heard of this brewery.
… and I am not shy when it comes to trying new beers. If I see something on the shelves which I have not tried before I’m one for buying a 6-pack just to test it out. There;s a few I wouldn’t buy again but at least I have tried them.
I almost understand this.

party_pants said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-16/colonial-brewing-banned-from-eastern-state-liquor-store/12360122Up until today I had never heard of this brewery.
Banning beer is un-Australian.
Peak Warming Man said:
party_pants said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-16/colonial-brewing-banned-from-eastern-state-liquor-store/12360122Up until today I had never heard of this brewery.
Banning beer is un-Australian.
it should have been invalid…
those bilbies are trouble
lady went to restock clothing etc, couple day ago, couldn’t get my usual boots, singlets, or work pants, and of the limited shop (just for essentials) she noticed couldn’t get her normal brand leggings
cause to wonder when and if supply will normalize from that country, which I won’t mention, you know prejudice against native peoples fills our TVs and media, seems to be an expanding import locally, but I sense more prejudice directed somewhere else, distorting things, globally, which personally I think is a bigger problem for this country
>>those bilbies are trouble
They’ve got a new generation in NSW, they are not using the King James bilbie any more.
Peak Warming Man said:
>>those bilbies are troubleThey’ve got a new generation in NSW, they are not using the King James bilbie any more.
chuckle
Divine Angel said:
I think SM posted this earlier.
unfortunately I think rove is a bit of a douche so I’ll take a hard pass.
Arts said:
Divine Angel said:
I think SM posted this earlier.
unfortunately I think rove is a bit of a douche so I’ll take a hard pass.
Haven’t seen whasisname all day.
JudgeMental said:
Arts said:
Divine Angel said:
I think SM posted this earlier.
unfortunately I think rove is a bit of a douche so I’ll take a hard pass.
Haven’t seen whasisname all day.
Trevor?
JudgeMental said:
Peak Warming Man said:
party_pants said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-16/colonial-brewing-banned-from-eastern-state-liquor-store/12360122Up until today I had never heard of this brewery.
Banning beer is un-Australian.
it should have been invalid…
I wonder if post-colonial beer is palatable.
Arts said:
Divine Angel said:
I think SM posted this earlier.
unfortunately I think rove is a bit of a douche so I’ll take a hard pass.
I didn’t know he went to art school.
The new reading lamp in position. Unfortunately I can’t turn it on yet as it requires a strange size of bulb that I don’t have.
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:
Divine Angel said:
I think SM posted this earlier.
unfortunately I think rove is a bit of a douche so I’ll take a hard pass.
I didn’t know he went to art school.
Just like Hitler.
Hmm. The optometrist has asked for information about a patient I haven’t seen since 1997. She must have said she had seen me before when she made an appointment. I shredded the record in 2012. I have to keep records for 7 years after last contact or until the patient reaches the age of 25 years. When I shred (or on a computer record, delete) I have to keep a note of patient name, date of birth and time period the record covered. I’ve always thought it’s pretty useless information really. I can tell you I saw that person but nothing at all about their eyes.
Buffy, did the roasted tomato soup today and decided to add a capsicum to the tray.
I will not be doing that again. It just didn’t work. Gave it a strange taste.
sarahs mum said:
JudgeMental said:
Peak Warming Man said:Banning beer is un-Australian.
it should have been invalid…
I wonder if post-colonial beer is palatable.
Well, German derived lager style beer is much more popular and suitable to the climate than old English style beers.
Bubblecar said:
The new reading lamp in position. Unfortunately I can’t turn it on yet as it requires a strange size of bulb that I don’t have.
Do you mean it takes an Edison (screw in) type buld?
Bubblecar said:
The new reading lamp in position. Unfortunately I can’t turn it on yet as it requires a strange size of bulb that I don’t have.
There’s some plates missing.
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
The new reading lamp in position. Unfortunately I can’t turn it on yet as it requires a strange size of bulb that I don’t have.
Do you mean it takes an Edison (screw in) type buld?
No, those lamps have an odd size globe that’s smaller than the standard ones for rooms etc. can be either screw in or the bayonet ones, just smaller.
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
The new reading lamp in position. Unfortunately I can’t turn it on yet as it requires a strange size of bulb that I don’t have.
Do you mean it takes an Edison (screw in) type buld?
No it’s a bayonet fitting but of smaller size than usual. I’ve come across them before, shouldn’t be hard to find an appropriate bulb.
poikilotherm said:
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
The new reading lamp in position. Unfortunately I can’t turn it on yet as it requires a strange size of bulb that I don’t have.
Do you mean it takes an Edison (screw in) type buld?
No, those lamps have an odd size globe that’s smaller than the standard ones for rooms etc. can be either screw in or the bayonet ones, just smaller.
E5
sibeen said:
Buffy, did the roasted tomato soup today and decided to add a capsicum to the tray.I will not be doing that again. It just didn’t work. Gave it a strange taste.
Red or green? Red should work because it bakes sweet. Green would be bitter, I think.
I just put the microwave on to heat up the dinner to take to the children as I picked them up from their various sports.. except I didn’t actually put the dinner in… I preheated the microwave.
poikilotherm said:
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
The new reading lamp in position. Unfortunately I can’t turn it on yet as it requires a strange size of bulb that I don’t have.
Do you mean it takes an Edison (screw in) type buld?
No, those lamps have an odd size globe that’s smaller than the standard ones for rooms etc. can be either screw in or the bayonet ones, just smaller.
I have plenty of Tiffany-style lamps but this is the first one I’ve encountered with the smaller fitting.
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
JudgeMental said:it should have been invalid…
I wonder if post-colonial beer is palatable.
Well, German derived lager style beer is much more popular and suitable to the climate than old English style beers.
And they had a lid on their beer glass.
buffy said:
sibeen said:
Buffy, did the roasted tomato soup today and decided to add a capsicum to the tray.I will not be doing that again. It just didn’t work. Gave it a strange taste.
Red or green? Red should work because it bakes sweet. Green would be bitter, I think.
It was red.
sibeen said:
buffy said:
sibeen said:
Buffy, did the roasted tomato soup today and decided to add a capsicum to the tray.I will not be doing that again. It just didn’t work. Gave it a strange taste.
Red or green? Red should work because it bakes sweet. Green would be bitter, I think.
It was red.
I see, red.
Arts said:
I just put the microwave on to heat up the dinner to take to the children as I picked them up from their various sports.. except I didn’t actually put the dinner in… I preheated the microwave.
Still on the plus side you found the chat thread alright.
sibeen said:
buffy said:
sibeen said:
Buffy, did the roasted tomato soup today and decided to add a capsicum to the tray.I will not be doing that again. It just didn’t work. Gave it a strange taste.
Red or green? Red should work because it bakes sweet. Green would be bitter, I think.
It was red.
Oh, that’s a shame. Red capsicum bakes well usually. Perhaps that recipe doesn’t bake it long enough.
Arts said:
the NDIS finally caught up with Mr Arts today… let’s see where this rollercoaster takes us..
Quite good for handrails, apparently. MumRule got handrails so a friend who walks with a stick can visit.
Hello.
monkey skipper said:
Hello.
*waves
Arts said:
Michael V said:
Arts said:my parents loved Kingswood country… I found it terrible, even as a small child… and so many others… fucking classic shows my arse..
That would be a classic show.
Hmm. I always thought the ‘classic’ meant great or outstanding.. but perhaps it just means dated.
It was the ‘The Castle’ of the 70s, but less PC, not as funny or generous, and without a narrative.
sarahs mum said:
monkey skipper said:
Hello.
*waves
Hello Sarah’s mum. How for art thou?
Arts said:
the NDIS finally caught up with Mr Arts today… let’s see where this rollercoaster takes us..
Hopefully on a high level. Nice bit of extra money for any help.
Divine Angel said:
I’m on my high horse again. This time about the school’s inability to know the difference between where/were and affect/effect. I offered my paid services to proofread their fortnightly newsletters.
Jesus.
Do it for free. MiniMe will thank you when she picks up the major awards at the Christmas carols.
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
I’m on my high horse again. This time about the school’s inability to know the difference between where/were and affect/effect. I offered my paid services to proofread their fortnightly newsletters.
Jesus.
Do it for free. MiniMe will thank you when she picks up the major awards at the Christmas carols.
Get involved with the P&C as that may help to get that connection with helping with the newsletter?
monkey skipper said:
sarahs mum said:
monkey skipper said:
Hello.
*waves
Hello Sarah’s mum. How for art thou?
It’s pretty grim in my brain but everything seems fine. You good?
monkey skipper said:
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
I’m on my high horse again. This time about the school’s inability to know the difference between where/were and affect/effect. I offered my paid services to proofread their fortnightly newsletters.
Jesus.
Do it for free. MiniMe will thank you when she picks up the major awards at the Christmas carols.
Get involved with the P&C as that may help to get that connection with helping with the newsletter?
DA would probably march in there in a mini skirt and tell widow Jones to keep her window shades all pulled completely down.
sarahs mum said:
monkey skipper said:
sarahs mum said:*waves
Hello Sarah’s mum. How for art thou?
It’s pretty grim in my brain but everything seems fine. You good?
I posted a link back there for a TED talk about Menopause and brains and why women are more susceptible to altzheimers.
During that I did realise that I am nowhere near as stressed out as I have been in the past. So that’s good.
monkey skipper said:
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
I’m on my high horse again. This time about the school’s inability to know the difference between where/were and affect/effect. I offered my paid services to proofread their fortnightly newsletters.
Jesus.
Do it for free. MiniMe will thank you when she picks up the major awards at the Christmas carols.
Get involved with the P&C as that may help to get that connection with helping with the newsletter?
personally i’m not for alienating dyslexics, and otherwise poor spellers, somewhere I got the idea that thoughts don’t originate with tidy spelling, or grammar, in fact, eventually I got around to wondering if a new thought, ones own thought, was really even possible with perfect spelling and grammar, that sort of level of alphabet compliance
Peak Warming Man said:
monkey skipper said:
Rule 303 said:Jesus.
Do it for free. MiniMe will thank you when she picks up the major awards at the Christmas carols.
Get involved with the P&C as that may help to get that connection with helping with the newsletter?
DA would probably march in there in a mini skirt and tell widow Jones to keep her window shades all pulled completely down.
P&C are currently not happening due to COVID restrictions.
sarahs mum said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:LOLz
:)
OK, having read the report I now understand the purpose of this strategy, and fully support it.
It would be an idea for Australia to do the same, but perhaps wait and see how it goes in the UK first.
After all, their need is greater.
and has the highest death rate per head of population in the world,” the petition states.
—-
They should be doing better than that. They have a health system. Many of them are literate.
They’ve got neo-Nazis goose-stepping around in London giving the Hitler Salute to a statue of Churchill, as a sign of respect, because they are their to protect the statue from anti-racism protestors.
This country is utterly, utterly, lost.
Rule 303 said:
They’ve got neo-Nazis goose-stepping around in London giving the Hitler Salute to a statue of Churchill, as a sign of respect, because they are their to protect the statue from anti-racism protestors.
This country is utterly, utterly, lost.
That country….
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:They’ve got neo-Nazis goose-stepping around in London giving the Hitler Salute to a statue of Churchill, as a sign of respect, because they are their to protect the statue from anti-racism protestors.
This country is utterly, utterly, lost.
That country….
Also, there.
There.
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:They’ve got neo-Nazis goose-stepping around in London giving the Hitler Salute to a statue of Churchill, as a sign of respect, because they are their to protect the statue from anti-racism protestors.
This country is utterly, utterly, lost.
That country….
Also, there.
There.
I think idea mentioned earlier about a declaration of war and immediate surrender to NZ has some merit.
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:That country….
Also, there.
There.
I think idea mentioned earlier about a declaration of war and immediate surrender to NZ has some merit.
Scotty for Marketing acknowledges advice only from… well, Marketing, probably God, and maybe Josh. So unless you’re his wife and you’re telling him that the only way you can ignore his last infidelity is a lengthy family trip to Hawaii, forget it.
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:Also, there.
There.
I think idea mentioned earlier about a declaration of war and immediate surrender to NZ has some merit.
Scotty for Marketing acknowledges advice only from… well, Marketing, probably God, and maybe Josh. So unless you’re his wife and you’re telling him that the only way you can ignore his last infidelity is a lengthy family trip to Hawaii, forget it.
No. For the UK.Not for us. We are not connected to the UK nor form any part of it.
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:I think idea mentioned earlier about a declaration of war and immediate surrender to NZ has some merit.
Scotty for Marketing acknowledges advice only from… well, Marketing, probably God, and maybe Josh. So unless you’re his wife and you’re telling him that the only way you can ignore his last infidelity is a lengthy family trip to Hawaii, forget it.
No. For the UK.Not for us. We are not connected to the UK nor form any part of it.
Ugh, alright, but can we send all our criminals over there, or something?
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:Scotty for Marketing acknowledges advice only from… well, Marketing, probably God, and maybe Josh. So unless you’re his wife and you’re telling him that the only way you can ignore his last infidelity is a lengthy family trip to Hawaii, forget it.
No. For the UK.Not for us. We are not connected to the UK nor form any part of it.
Ugh, alright, but can we send all our criminals over there, or something?
Sure. I think we already do this with both NZ and the UK.
Prominent figures including the former prime minister, Tony Abbott, have incorrectly suggested there is “no evidence” the justice system discriminates against Indigenous Australians. On Sunday Abbott was quoted as attributing disproportionate rates of incarceration of Indigenous people to a “higher offending rate”.
But despite poor data transparency among police agencies in Australia, there is significant evidence to suggest widespread over-policing of the Indigenous population.
Last week, the Guardian revealed a stark disparity in the use of the NSW cannabis cautioning scheme by police between Indigenous and non-Indigenous Australians.
Data obtained by the Guardian showed that between 2013 and 2017 only 11.41% of Indigenous Australians caught by police with small amounts of cannabis were issued cautions, compared with 40.03% of the non-Indigenous population.
There are widespread reports of over-policing of public order offences in Indigenous communities, and over-representation in charges for use of offensive language and imprisonment for failure to pay fines.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jun/16/nsw-police-disproportionately-target-indigenous-people-in-strip-searches
Arts said:
I just put the microwave on to heat up the dinner to take to the children as I picked them up from their various sports.. except I didn’t actually put the dinner in… I preheated the microwave.
You’re falling apart… is it the covid?
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:I think idea mentioned earlier about a declaration of war and immediate surrender to NZ has some merit.
Scotty for Marketing acknowledges advice only from… well, Marketing, probably God, and maybe Josh. So unless you’re his wife and you’re telling him that the only way you can ignore his last infidelity is a lengthy family trip to Hawaii, forget it.
No. For the UK.Not for us. We are not connected to the UK nor form any part of it.
Some might argue that having the same woman as head of state is a connection of sorts, but that’s beside the point.
If the NZ take-over is a good idea for UK, why wouldn’t it be for Oz?
The Rev Dodgson said:
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:Scotty for Marketing acknowledges advice only from… well, Marketing, probably God, and maybe Josh. So unless you’re his wife and you’re telling him that the only way you can ignore his last infidelity is a lengthy family trip to Hawaii, forget it.
No. For the UK.Not for us. We are not connected to the UK nor form any part of it.
Some might argue that having the same woman as head of state is a connection of sorts, but that’s beside the point.
If the NZ take-over is a good idea for UK, why wouldn’t it be for Oz?
The strictly legal situation is that we are separate.
We don’t (yet) have mobs of angry fascists giving nazi salutes to statues of Churchill. So we are not quite so far gone as the UK.
Spiny Norman said:
Arts said:
Divine Angel said:They’ll probably say he’s not disabled enough.
or that he’s likely to recover
FWIW Spocky has a brother with Down Syndrome. His mother has to take him to the doctor once a year to confirm that it hasn’t magically cleared-up and send the paperwork to the government.
No, I’m not making that up.
What happens when if his mother dies?
sarahs mum said:
Prominent figures including the former prime minister, Tony Abbott, have incorrectly suggested there is “no evidence” the justice system discriminates against Indigenous Australians. On Sunday Abbott was quoted as attributing disproportionate rates of incarceration of Indigenous people to a “higher offending rate”.But despite poor data transparency among police agencies in Australia, there is significant evidence to suggest widespread over-policing of the Indigenous population.
Last week, the Guardian revealed a stark disparity in the use of the NSW cannabis cautioning scheme by police between Indigenous and non-Indigenous Australians.
Data obtained by the Guardian showed that between 2013 and 2017 only 11.41% of Indigenous Australians caught by police with small amounts of cannabis were issued cautions, compared with 40.03% of the non-Indigenous population.
There are widespread reports of over-policing of public order offences in Indigenous communities, and over-representation in charges for use of offensive language and imprisonment for failure to pay fines.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jun/16/nsw-police-disproportionately-target-indigenous-people-in-strip-searches
And on top of that, to the extent that higher rates of incarceration (etc) are related to financial circumstances, rather than ancestry, that is still something that disproportionately affects indigenous people.
Just watching ABC thing on the East Coast of OZ.
Some pretty scary weeding going on!
esselte said:
Spiny Norman said:
Arts said:or that he’s likely to recover
FWIW Spocky has a brother with Down Syndrome. His mother has to take him to the doctor once a year to confirm that it hasn’t magically cleared-up and send the paperwork to the government.
No, I’m not making that up.
What happens when if his mother dies?
They go into a ‘care’ or ‘group home’ run by a myriad of church and other groups.
party_pants said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
party_pants said:No. For the UK.Not for us. We are not connected to the UK nor form any part of it.
Some might argue that having the same woman as head of state is a connection of sorts, but that’s beside the point.
If the NZ take-over is a good idea for UK, why wouldn’t it be for Oz?
The strictly legal situation is that we are separate.
We don’t (yet) have mobs of angry fascists giving nazi salutes to statues of Churchill. So we are not quite so far gone as the UK.
Hmmmmm they did come out of the woodwork when abbott was PM.
Rule 303 said:
Arts said:
the NDIS finally caught up with Mr Arts today… let’s see where this rollercoaster takes us..
Quite good for handrails, apparently. MumRule got handrails so a friend who walks with a stick can visit.
fuck handrails
poikilotherm said:
esselte said:
Spiny Norman said:FWIW Spocky has a brother with Down Syndrome. His mother has to take him to the doctor once a year to confirm that it hasn’t magically cleared-up and send the paperwork to the government.
No, I’m not making that up.
What happens when if his mother dies?
They go into a ‘care’ or ‘group home’ run by a myriad of church and other groups.
Does the care or group home have to have him assessed yearly?
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/crime-news/2020/06/16/golden-state-killer-guilty/
Rule 303 said:
Arts said:
Michael V said:That would be a classic show.
Hmm. I always thought the ‘classic’ meant great or outstanding.. but perhaps it just means dated.
It was the ‘The Castle’ of the 70s, but less PC, not as funny or generous, and without a narrative.
so, not really the castle.
Is anyone here familiar with Export Declaration Forms? We have previously sent products of high value overseas to the US and South Africa, but this customer in Armenia insists we need to complete one of these forms. What is this all about?
JudgeMental said:
Arts said:
the NDIS finally caught up with Mr Arts today… let’s see where this rollercoaster takes us..
Hopefully on a high level. Nice bit of extra money for any help.
He has been funded by the WA gov since his accident… but now they are outsourcing too… so it’s not extra money it’s independent living money that helps pay for the carers, drugs and equipment.. like he has for the last 24 years.
party_pants said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
party_pants said:No. For the UK.Not for us. We are not connected to the UK nor form any part of it.
Some might argue that having the same woman as head of state is a connection of sorts, but that’s beside the point.
If the NZ take-over is a good idea for UK, why wouldn’t it be for Oz?
The strictly legal situation is that we are separate.
We don’t (yet) have mobs of angry fascists giving nazi salutes to statues of Churchill. So we are not quite so far gone as the UK.
It’s going down in New Mexico.
Armed men arrested in shooting at New Mexico statue protest
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-16/man-shot-as-people-try-to-pull-down-statue-in-new-mexico/12361696
Speedy said:
Is anyone here familiar with Export Declaration Forms? We have previously sent products of high value overseas to the US and South Africa, but this customer in Armenia insists we need to complete one of these forms. What is this all about?
Not really. Every country seems to have some peculiar document required. Best thing is to ask the customer for a sample copy or proforma of what they are after and then just copy it as best you can. The problem arises when you have to do stuff in their language, I had massive problems trying to send stuff to Russia. I did all the paperwork very carefully, but it was all in English and so not acceptable.
esselte said:
poikilotherm said:
esselte said:What happens when if his mother dies?
They go into a ‘care’ or ‘group home’ run by a myriad of church and other groups.
Does the care or group home have to have him assessed yearly?
Yes.
Arts said:
JudgeMental said:
Arts said:
the NDIS finally caught up with Mr Arts today… let’s see where this rollercoaster takes us..
Hopefully on a high level. Nice bit of extra money for any help.
He has been funded by the WA gov since his accident… but now they are outsourcing too… so it’s not extra money it’s independent living money that helps pay for the carers, drugs and equipment.. like he has for the last 24 years.
ahhh. good thing about NDIS money is the unused portion rollsover. depending on the level he gets it could be more money for him. level 1, the lowest, is about $15000 a year from memory.
Speedy said:
Is anyone here familiar with Export Declaration Forms? We have previously sent products of high value overseas to the US and South Africa, but this customer in Armenia insists we need to complete one of these forms. What is this all about?
It’s a requirement of the EAEU harmonized tariffs (CET).
According to EAEU requirements customs clearance, as a general rule, should be performed in the jurisdiction of the respective participants in foreign economic operations. For example, goods transiting to Armenia and/or Kazakhstan from foreign suppliers through Russia are customs cleared at the EAEU’s external frontier in Russia. This is the same procedure for items entering Armenia and Kazakhstan destined for other countries within the EAEU. Armenia does not have common border with and EAEU members, all goods must transit through Georgia, adding complications which have yet to be fully resolved.
Customs requires importers to present a customs declaration form with a commercial invoice indicating the specifications, quantity, and value of goods being imported. In addition, to ensure that imports will be valued by the transaction method of valuation, documentation must meet the requirements enumerated in the Import Tariffs section of this guide. The State Customs Committee has implemented an on-line declaration process (Direct Trader Input or “DTI”) which reduces personal contact between customs officials and importers.
Armenia’s accession to the Russian-led Eurasian Customs Union and the EAEU on January 2, 2015 has resulted in increased customs tariffs for the majority of imports. Armenia was required to harmonize its customs tariffs with those of the EAEU, with temporary exemptions for up to five years, for around 500 key imported goods (including foodstuffs). The common external tariff (CET) for the EAEU largely corresponds with Russian tariff rates. The Eurasian Economic Commission (EAEC) is the multilateral entity established by EAEU member countries to manage the Union. The EAEC handles the harmonization of all issues such as tariffs, tariff rate quotas, and licensing and certification between the member countries. However, implementation so far has been uneven and national governments still retain some discretion.
JudgeMental said:
Arts said:
JudgeMental said:Hopefully on a high level. Nice bit of extra money for any help.
He has been funded by the WA gov since his accident… but now they are outsourcing too… so it’s not extra money it’s independent living money that helps pay for the carers, drugs and equipment.. like he has for the last 24 years.
ahhh. good thing about NDIS money is the unused portion rollsover. depending on the level he gets it could be more money for him. level 1, the lowest, is about $15000 a year from memory.
well, I hope he gets more than that….
Arts said:
JudgeMental said:
Arts said:He has been funded by the WA gov since his accident… but now they are outsourcing too… so it’s not extra money it’s independent living money that helps pay for the carers, drugs and equipment.. like he has for the last 24 years.
ahhh. good thing about NDIS money is the unused portion rollsover. depending on the level he gets it could be more money for him. level 1, the lowest, is about $15000 a year from memory.
well, I hope he gets more than that….
to be fair, I have heard good and terrible stories about the NDIS.. things like it taking over six months for a new chair to being able to go on holiday more often… it probably, being a government department thing, just needs good planning.
Arts said:
Arts said:
JudgeMental said:ahhh. good thing about NDIS money is the unused portion rollsover. depending on the level he gets it could be more money for him. level 1, the lowest, is about $15000 a year from memory.
well, I hope he gets more than that….
to be fair, I have heard good and terrible stories about the NDIS.. things like it taking over six months for a new chair to being able to go on holiday more often… it probably, being a government department thing, just needs good planning.
We’ve almost got our NDIS certification and it was a colossal amount of bureaucracy claptrap. But that’s from a provider POV. No idea what it’s like for those that need to access it.
Arts said:
Arts said:
JudgeMental said:ahhh. good thing about NDIS money is the unused portion rollsover. depending on the level he gets it could be more money for him. level 1, the lowest, is about $15000 a year from memory.
well, I hope he gets more than that….
to be fair, I have heard good and terrible stories about the NDIS.. things like it taking over six months for a new chair to being able to go on holiday more often… it probably, being a government department thing, just needs good planning.
yeah, bit of a backlog in the aged care side of it. seems to depend on funding being released. when that happens a whole lot come on and others who are already on get bumped up a level if the are eligible.
party_pants said:
Speedy said:
Is anyone here familiar with Export Declaration Forms? We have previously sent products of high value overseas to the US and South Africa, but this customer in Armenia insists we need to complete one of these forms. What is this all about?
Not really. Every country seems to have some peculiar document required. Best thing is to ask the customer for a sample copy or proforma of what they are after and then just copy it as best you can. The problem arises when you have to do stuff in their language, I had massive problems trying to send stuff to Russia. I did all the paperwork very carefully, but it was all in English and so not acceptable.
Thanks Mr Pants. The form is a standard one provided by Australian Border Force. I will print one and complete it tomorrow, but then I don’t know what exactly to do with it.
FWIW, we have a customer in Russia also who has placed an order, but for them everything is on hold due to COVID. Their contract terms were written in both Russian and English. I presume they will require this same form when we ship.
Speedy said:
party_pants said:
Speedy said:
Is anyone here familiar with Export Declaration Forms? We have previously sent products of high value overseas to the US and South Africa, but this customer in Armenia insists we need to complete one of these forms. What is this all about?
Not really. Every country seems to have some peculiar document required. Best thing is to ask the customer for a sample copy or proforma of what they are after and then just copy it as best you can. The problem arises when you have to do stuff in their language, I had massive problems trying to send stuff to Russia. I did all the paperwork very carefully, but it was all in English and so not acceptable.
Thanks Mr Pants. The form is a standard one provided by Australian Border Force. I will print one and complete it tomorrow, but then I don’t know what exactly to do with it.
FWIW, we have a customer in Russia also who has placed an order, but for them everything is on hold due to COVID. Their contract terms were written in both Russian and English. I presume they will require this same form when we ship.
I presume you found this – tells you what to do with the form. If it’s the one you are talking about.
https://www.abf.gov.au/importing-exporting-and-manufacturing/exporting/how-to-export/export-declaration
:)
Speedy said:
party_pants said:
Speedy said:
Is anyone here familiar with Export Declaration Forms? We have previously sent products of high value overseas to the US and South Africa, but this customer in Armenia insists we need to complete one of these forms. What is this all about?
Not really. Every country seems to have some peculiar document required. Best thing is to ask the customer for a sample copy or proforma of what they are after and then just copy it as best you can. The problem arises when you have to do stuff in their language, I had massive problems trying to send stuff to Russia. I did all the paperwork very carefully, but it was all in English and so not acceptable.
Thanks Mr Pants. The form is a standard one provided by Australian Border Force. I will print one and complete it tomorrow, but then I don’t know what exactly to do with it.
FWIW, we have a customer in Russia also who has placed an order, but for them everything is on hold due to COVID. Their contract terms were written in both Russian and English. I presume they will require this same form when we ship.
If you have a customs broker, give them a call. They are usually happy to explain things to you before you do it rather than after.
Good luck with Russia.
esselte said:
Speedy said:
Is anyone here familiar with Export Declaration Forms? We have previously sent products of high value overseas to the US and South Africa, but this customer in Armenia insists we need to complete one of these forms. What is this all about?
It’s a requirement of the EAEU harmonized tariffs (CET).
According to EAEU requirements customs clearance, as a general rule, should be performed in the jurisdiction of the respective participants in foreign economic operations. For example, goods transiting to Armenia and/or Kazakhstan from foreign suppliers through Russia are customs cleared at the EAEU’s external frontier in Russia. This is the same procedure for items entering Armenia and Kazakhstan destined for other countries within the EAEU. Armenia does not have common border with and EAEU members, all goods must transit through Georgia, adding complications which have yet to be fully resolved.
Customs requires importers to present a customs declaration form with a commercial invoice indicating the specifications, quantity, and value of goods being imported. In addition, to ensure that imports will be valued by the transaction method of valuation, documentation must meet the requirements enumerated in the Import Tariffs section of this guide. The State Customs Committee has implemented an on-line declaration process (Direct Trader Input or “DTI”) which reduces personal contact between customs officials and importers.
Armenia’s accession to the Russian-led Eurasian Customs Union and the EAEU on January 2, 2015 has resulted in increased customs tariffs for the majority of imports. Armenia was required to harmonize its customs tariffs with those of the EAEU, with temporary exemptions for up to five years, for around 500 key imported goods (including foodstuffs). The common external tariff (CET) for the EAEU largely corresponds with Russian tariff rates. The Eurasian Economic Commission (EAEC) is the multilateral entity established by EAEU member countries to manage the Union. The EAEC handles the harmonization of all issues such as tariffs, tariff rate quotas, and licensing and certification between the member countries. However, implementation so far has been uneven and national governments still retain some discretion.
Thanks esselte. I think I will read that again in the morning :)
buffy said:
Speedy said:
party_pants said:Not really. Every country seems to have some peculiar document required. Best thing is to ask the customer for a sample copy or proforma of what they are after and then just copy it as best you can. The problem arises when you have to do stuff in their language, I had massive problems trying to send stuff to Russia. I did all the paperwork very carefully, but it was all in English and so not acceptable.
Thanks Mr Pants. The form is a standard one provided by Australian Border Force. I will print one and complete it tomorrow, but then I don’t know what exactly to do with it.
FWIW, we have a customer in Russia also who has placed an order, but for them everything is on hold due to COVID. Their contract terms were written in both Russian and English. I presume they will require this same form when we ship.
I presume you found this – tells you what to do with the form. If it’s the one you are talking about.
https://www.abf.gov.au/importing-exporting-and-manufacturing/exporting/how-to-export/export-declaration
:)
this must be quite a new thing.
buffy said:
Speedy said:
party_pants said:Not really. Every country seems to have some peculiar document required. Best thing is to ask the customer for a sample copy or proforma of what they are after and then just copy it as best you can. The problem arises when you have to do stuff in their language, I had massive problems trying to send stuff to Russia. I did all the paperwork very carefully, but it was all in English and so not acceptable.
Thanks Mr Pants. The form is a standard one provided by Australian Border Force. I will print one and complete it tomorrow, but then I don’t know what exactly to do with it.
FWIW, we have a customer in Russia also who has placed an order, but for them everything is on hold due to COVID. Their contract terms were written in both Russian and English. I presume they will require this same form when we ship.
I presume you found this – tells you what to do with the form. If it’s the one you are talking about.
https://www.abf.gov.au/importing-exporting-and-manufacturing/exporting/how-to-export/export-declaration
:)
Yes, that’s all the information I have too. I was hoping to just complete it and send it with the goods, but a closer look tells me this may not be possible.
poikilotherm said:
Arts said:
Arts said:well, I hope he gets more than that….
to be fair, I have heard good and terrible stories about the NDIS.. things like it taking over six months for a new chair to being able to go on holiday more often… it probably, being a government department thing, just needs good planning.
We’ve almost got our NDIS certification and it was a colossal amount of bureaucracy claptrap. But that’s from a provider POV. No idea what it’s like for those that need to access it.
yeah.. it’s that bureaucracy clap trap that I’m worried about… I just hope the state funding doesn’t stop before the NDIS begins because someone says the assessment has been done. etc. we know how at three pm on a Friday no gov worker is doing anything, anywhere, for anyone…
party_pants said:
Speedy said:
party_pants said:Not really. Every country seems to have some peculiar document required. Best thing is to ask the customer for a sample copy or proforma of what they are after and then just copy it as best you can. The problem arises when you have to do stuff in their language, I had massive problems trying to send stuff to Russia. I did all the paperwork very carefully, but it was all in English and so not acceptable.
Thanks Mr Pants. The form is a standard one provided by Australian Border Force. I will print one and complete it tomorrow, but then I don’t know what exactly to do with it.
FWIW, we have a customer in Russia also who has placed an order, but for them everything is on hold due to COVID. Their contract terms were written in both Russian and English. I presume they will require this same form when we ship.
If you have a customs broker, give them a call. They are usually happy to explain things to you before you do it rather than after.
Good luck with Russia.
With previous orders overseas, we have used either DHL or UPS and as long as we provided a commercial invoice and a few other things, they arranged the rest. This time, the customer has arranged their own transport, and dealing with the agents in Australia has been … difficult. It has been a week of no answers so far, despite me asking whether an EDF is actually required numerous times. I should have just asked here.
Arts said:
poikilotherm said:
Arts said:to be fair, I have heard good and terrible stories about the NDIS.. things like it taking over six months for a new chair to being able to go on holiday more often… it probably, being a government department thing, just needs good planning.
We’ve almost got our NDIS certification and it was a colossal amount of bureaucracy claptrap. But that’s from a provider POV. No idea what it’s like for those that need to access it.
yeah.. it’s that bureaucracy clap trap that I’m worried about… I just hope the state funding doesn’t stop before the NDIS begins because someone says the assessment has been done. etc. we know how at three pm on a Friday no gov worker is doing anything, anywhere, for anyone…
do you have a provider of these services already. I’m not sure if it is the same procedure as in aged care.
Speedy said:
party_pants said:
Speedy said:Thanks Mr Pants. The form is a standard one provided by Australian Border Force. I will print one and complete it tomorrow, but then I don’t know what exactly to do with it.
FWIW, we have a customer in Russia also who has placed an order, but for them everything is on hold due to COVID. Their contract terms were written in both Russian and English. I presume they will require this same form when we ship.
If you have a customs broker, give them a call. They are usually happy to explain things to you before you do it rather than after.
Good luck with Russia.
With previous orders overseas, we have used either DHL or UPS and as long as we provided a commercial invoice and a few other things, they arranged the rest. This time, the customer has arranged their own transport, and dealing with the agents in Australia has been … difficult. It has been a week of no answers so far, despite me asking whether an EDF is actually required numerous times. I should have just asked here.
I’ve always dealt with freight forwarders/brokers. Usually they just wanted a commercial invoice and a detailed packing list. They did all the rest. If there was anything missing they’d just email you and ask if you could add some extra detail, usually they even gave the exact wording and you just c&p it, print, sign, scan and send.
Arts said:
Rule 303 said:
Arts said:
the NDIS finally caught up with Mr Arts today… let’s see where this rollercoaster takes us..
Quite good for handrails, apparently. MumRule got handrails so a friend who walks with a stick can visit.
fuck handrails
Yeah! Fuck the handrails!
I dunno… I advocated for Level 4, complex home modifications & support because the bugger wouldn’t stop collecting wood to light a fire (the only form of heating she would accept, despite it being waaayyy past her capabilities) and got it. It seems like they just pay for whatever she waives her hand at now.
Arts said:
Rule 303 said:
Arts said:Hmm. I always thought the ‘classic’ meant great or outstanding.. but perhaps it just means dated.
It was the ‘The Castle’ of the 70s, but less PC, not as funny or generous, and without a narrative.
so, not really the castle.
Not even close, but it had catchy phrases.
JudgeMental said:
Arts said:
poikilotherm said:We’ve almost got our NDIS certification and it was a colossal amount of bureaucracy claptrap. But that’s from a provider POV. No idea what it’s like for those that need to access it.
yeah.. it’s that bureaucracy clap trap that I’m worried about… I just hope the state funding doesn’t stop before the NDIS begins because someone says the assessment has been done. etc. we know how at three pm on a Friday no gov worker is doing anything, anywhere, for anyone…
do you have a provider of these services already. I’m not sure if it is the same procedure as in aged care.
we do.. and they have said they will also funnel (I don’t know it that is the right word) the NDIS.. Mr Arts has to decide to self manage or allow them to manage… I think self manage is probably the go… but I don’t know what he ultimately decided in todays phone call.
Rule 303 said:
Arts said:
Rule 303 said:It was the ‘The Castle’ of the 70s, but less PC, not as funny or generous, and without a narrative.
so, not really the castle.
Not even close, but it had catchy phrases.
bloody catch phrases, what did they ever do for us?
Rule 303 said:
Arts said:
Rule 303 said:Quite good for handrails, apparently. MumRule got handrails so a friend who walks with a stick can visit.
fuck handrails
Yeah! Fuck the handrails!
I dunno… I advocated for Level 4, complex home modifications & support because the bugger wouldn’t stop collecting wood to light a fire (the only form of heating she would accept, despite it being waaayyy past her capabilities) and got it. It seems like they just pay for whatever she waives her hand at now.
well, up to a point. level 4 is the highest i think so quite a bit of care available.
Arts said:
Rule 303 said:
Arts said:so, not really the castle.
Not even close, but it had catchy phrases.
bloody catch phrases, what did they ever do for us?
Nothing any more, not since Burgo took them all.
Arts said:
JudgeMental said:
Arts said:yeah.. it’s that bureaucracy clap trap that I’m worried about… I just hope the state funding doesn’t stop before the NDIS begins because someone says the assessment has been done. etc. we know how at three pm on a Friday no gov worker is doing anything, anywhere, for anyone…
do you have a provider of these services already. I’m not sure if it is the same procedure as in aged care.
we do.. and they have said they will also funnel (I don’t know it that is the right word) the NDIS.. Mr Arts has to decide to self manage or allow them to manage… I think self manage is probably the go… but I don’t know what he ultimately decided in todays phone call.
the provider has the access to the funds. the client can choose what they want those funds to go to. as long as those items are covered.
Arts said:
Rule 303 said:
Arts said:so, not really the castle.
Not even close, but it had catchy phrases.
bloody catch phrases, what did they ever do for us?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLWodzcZb-s
The Castle (1997) Where was it Filmed?
JudgeMental said:
Arts said:
Rule 303 said:Not even close, but it had catchy phrases.
bloody catch phrases, what did they ever do for us?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLWodzcZb-s
The Castle (1997) Where was it Filmed?
Next to Essendon airport. The land was developed a few years back IIRC.
Witty Rejoinder said:
JudgeMental said:
Arts said:bloody catch phrases, what did they ever do for us?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLWodzcZb-s
The Castle (1997) Where was it Filmed?
Next to Essendon airport. The land was developed a few years back IIRC.
redeveloped
party_pants said:
Speedy said:
party_pants said:If you have a customs broker, give them a call. They are usually happy to explain things to you before you do it rather than after.
Good luck with Russia.
With previous orders overseas, we have used either DHL or UPS and as long as we provided a commercial invoice and a few other things, they arranged the rest. This time, the customer has arranged their own transport, and dealing with the agents in Australia has been … difficult. It has been a week of no answers so far, despite me asking whether an EDF is actually required numerous times. I should have just asked here.
I’ve always dealt with freight forwarders/brokers. Usually they just wanted a commercial invoice and a detailed packing list. They did all the rest. If there was anything missing they’d just email you and ask if you could add some extra detail, usually they even gave the exact wording and you just c&p it, print, sign, scan and send.
That’s what I was hoping for. Despite them not providing the information I requested about the form, the agent emailed to me a consignment note early this morning, stating that they would collect today. I prepared the consignment but didn’t expect them to collect before confirming details with me first. I went to the shops with Little Speedy after school, and Speedy Jnr phoned me to say the driver was there at home but didn’t have the correct info. I spoke with the driver, who told me that there was no barcode to scan on the parcels. On returning home I found that the Con. Note that was attached did have a barcode, so I don’t know what up with that. Since then, I have received panicked emails from the customer and their transport company in Armenia, which I have responded to. I have a headache :(
JudgeMental said:
Arts said:
JudgeMental said:do you have a provider of these services already. I’m not sure if it is the same procedure as in aged care.
we do.. and they have said they will also funnel (I don’t know it that is the right word) the NDIS.. Mr Arts has to decide to self manage or allow them to manage… I think self manage is probably the go… but I don’t know what he ultimately decided in todays phone call.
the provider has the access to the funds. the client can choose what they want those funds to go to. as long as those items are covered.
his ‘provider’ has allowed these options.. self manage or they manage… some of their clients are mentally challenged as well as physically.. I guess that might change things.. stop carers or family from perpetrating any sort of financial abuse perhaps.. anyway.. this is what I have been told… we are on the train now… I just have to be along for the ride I guess.
JudgeMental said:
Rule 303 said:
Arts said:fuck handrails
Yeah! Fuck the handrails!
I dunno… I advocated for Level 4, complex home modifications & support because the bugger wouldn’t stop collecting wood to light a fire (the only form of heating she would accept, despite it being waaayyy past her capabilities) and got it. It seems like they just pay for whatever she waives her hand at now.
well, up to a point. level 4 is the highest i think so quite a bit of care available.
The package is wildly in excess of her needs, but it was (as I say) the only way she would accept any other form of heating. We are doing what we can to support her strong preference for living at home.
Arts said:
JudgeMental said:
Arts said:we do.. and they have said they will also funnel (I don’t know it that is the right word) the NDIS.. Mr Arts has to decide to self manage or allow them to manage… I think self manage is probably the go… but I don’t know what he ultimately decided in todays phone call.
the provider has the access to the funds. the client can choose what they want those funds to go to. as long as those items are covered.
his ‘provider’ has allowed these options.. self manage or they manage… some of their clients are mentally challenged as well as physically.. I guess that might change things.. stop carers or family from perpetrating any sort of financial abuse perhaps.. anyway.. this is what I have been told… we are on the train now… I just have to be along for the ride I guess.
It is a better scheme than the old one.
Speedy said:
party_pants said:
Speedy said:With previous orders overseas, we have used either DHL or UPS and as long as we provided a commercial invoice and a few other things, they arranged the rest. This time, the customer has arranged their own transport, and dealing with the agents in Australia has been … difficult. It has been a week of no answers so far, despite me asking whether an EDF is actually required numerous times. I should have just asked here.
I’ve always dealt with freight forwarders/brokers. Usually they just wanted a commercial invoice and a detailed packing list. They did all the rest. If there was anything missing they’d just email you and ask if you could add some extra detail, usually they even gave the exact wording and you just c&p it, print, sign, scan and send.
That’s what I was hoping for. Despite them not providing the information I requested about the form, the agent emailed to me a consignment note early this morning, stating that they would collect today. I prepared the consignment but didn’t expect them to collect before confirming details with me first. I went to the shops with Little Speedy after school, and Speedy Jnr phoned me to say the driver was there at home but didn’t have the correct info. I spoke with the driver, who told me that there was no barcode to scan on the parcels. On returning home I found that the Con. Note that was attached did have a barcode, so I don’t know what up with that. Since then, I have received panicked emails from the customer and their transport company in Armenia, which I have responded to. I have a headache :(
Me too now :/
party_pants said:
Speedy said:
party_pants said:I’ve always dealt with freight forwarders/brokers. Usually they just wanted a commercial invoice and a detailed packing list. They did all the rest. If there was anything missing they’d just email you and ask if you could add some extra detail, usually they even gave the exact wording and you just c&p it, print, sign, scan and send.
That’s what I was hoping for. Despite them not providing the information I requested about the form, the agent emailed to me a consignment note early this morning, stating that they would collect today. I prepared the consignment but didn’t expect them to collect before confirming details with me first. I went to the shops with Little Speedy after school, and Speedy Jnr phoned me to say the driver was there at home but didn’t have the correct info. I spoke with the driver, who told me that there was no barcode to scan on the parcels. On returning home I found that the Con. Note that was attached did have a barcode, so I don’t know what up with that. Since then, I have received panicked emails from the customer and their transport company in Armenia, which I have responded to. I have a headache :(
Me too now :/
Sorry about that :(
I guess that’s my record right there of what actually happened. Hopefully I won’t need to refer to it again, as from tomorrow this order will be smooth sailing all the way to where it’s going :)
Anyone here ever tried making vegetable oil lamps of the wick style?
Are they safe? Safe-ish for household use? Instead of candles.
JudgeMental said:
Arts said:
JudgeMental said:the provider has the access to the funds. the client can choose what they want those funds to go to. as long as those items are covered.
his ‘provider’ has allowed these options.. self manage or they manage… some of their clients are mentally challenged as well as physically.. I guess that might change things.. stop carers or family from perpetrating any sort of financial abuse perhaps.. anyway.. this is what I have been told… we are on the train now… I just have to be along for the ride I guess.
It is a better scheme than the old one.
again, it depends who I ask.. I suspect it’s a better scheme than some old ones.. but what we had going was pretty good, and give us some autonomy on what we spent it on… it was a lump sum that a surplus on could be used for other supportive big ticket items like cars and/or wheelchair and/or respite etc… without applying for funding for said big ticket items… I’m not saying that once we adapt to change it’s not going to be fine.. but some people have been frustrated with the change in our wheelie set.
Also wheelies are quite fucking stubborn too.. and like things the way they like them, so adapting to change is probably not their strong suit…
Ketamine Experiment Reveals Brain Phenomenon
Peter Dockrill 3 hrs ago
© Nicol & Morton, Scientific Reports, 2020
Doses of the drug ketamine administered to sheep during research into Huntington’s disease have revealed new insights into how the anaesthetic works on the brain to create its pain-numbing and dissociative effects.
Most strikingly, when the animals were given high doses at one stage of the experiment, electroencephalography (EEG) readings of their cortical activity appeared to show brain activity turning off completely, in an instant.
This complete cessation of cortical EEG activity – a phenomenon that the team says has never previously been described – lasted for up to several minutes in the test subjects, before their brain activity roused once more.
“This wasn’t just reduced brain activity. After the high dose of ketamine the brains of these sheep completely stopped. We’ve never seen that before,” says neurobiologist Jenny Morton from the University of Cambridge.
“A few minutes later their brains were functioning normally again – it was as though they had just been switched off and on.”
The findings underscore how much we have yet to learn about the effects of ketamine on brain activity. The neuroactive drug was first synthesised in the 1960s, and has been used in the decades since as a pain-relief medication and sedative for both human patients and animals.
In recent years, ketamine has also shown promise in treating a range of other conditions, including depression, post-traumatic stress disorder, and migraines.
More notoriously, in high doses the substance has long been popular as a recreational drug that induces a strong dissociative and sometimes catatonic state, often called the ‘K-hole’ – a “state of oblivion likened to a near death experience”, as Morton and fellow researcher Alister Nicol write in their new study.
“Subjective effects include perceptual distortions, sensations of floating, vivid dreams or illusions, distortion of sense of time and space, and alterations in mood state and body awareness,” the researchers explain
.
“At a sufficiently high dose, both awareness of self and surroundings, and interactions with others become profoundly impaired.”
While the primary aim of the team’s larger research project is to explore how therapeutic drugs act on the brain in a sheep model of Huntington’s disease, the findings reported here come from experiments using only healthy sheep – albeit animals with EEG devices surgically implanted onto their skulls, for the purposes of recording the brain’s electrical activity.
“Our purpose wasn’t really to look at the effects of ketamine, but to use it as a tool to probe the brain activity in sheep with and without the Huntington’s disease gene,” says Morton. “But our surprising findings could help explain how ketamine works.”
In the study, which lasted a number of months, the sheep were given different levels of ketamine doses, ranging from very low (3 milligrams per kilogram of body weight) up to the highest dose given of 24 mg/kg (which is at the high end of the anaesthetic range, and the low end of when the drug is used for recreational purposes).
Regardless of the dose, the sheep’s readings generally followed three distinct sequential phases of activity: a period of sedation from the anaesthetic, followed by a period of dissociative consciousness without voluntary movement, followed by a period of basically full alertness, although still no voluntary movement.
During the second phase, as the animals emerged from sedation, the researchers identified an alternating oscillatory state in the brain readings, where the output of the whole cortex switched between bursts of low and high frequency oscillations.
“While the subjective experience of sheep cannot be determined,” the authors write, “the clinical and psychic profile of ketamine administration is very well described in humans, and the timing makes it likely that this ‘oscillation of oscillations’ underlies the dissociative state caused by ketamine.”
That’s not all. At the highest doses given (24 mg/kg), the researchers observed an even more remarkable response, with EEG activity ceasing completely in five of the six sheep tested – a phenomenon the researchers called the ‘EEG hole’, occurring two minutes after the drug was delivered.
“To our knowledge, this is the first report of such an effect,” the team explains. “It seems likely that the total cessation of cortical activity underpins the phenomenon known as the ‘K-hole’.”
As Morton explained to Inverse, the EEG hole doesn’t necessarily mean that all brain activity had stopped. If so, the animals might have stopped breathing. Instead, the plummeting EEG reading just reflects a very strange cessation of the usual electrical activity we can detect in the brain during normal circumstances.
“The activity in the cortex in some of the sheep stops completely for a short time,” Morton told Inverse. “But the brain is not dead or damaged.”
Within a few minutes, the EEG hole lifted, and the sheep displayed brain activity otherwise consistent with the phases of the drug seen at lower doses.
While we still don’t know how ketamine exerts these unusual effects on the brain, the researchers say exploring the drug’s physiological mechanisms could help us learn more about how the brain works as a whole – which is especially important in the context of brain disorders, such as schizophrenia.
“Understanding how different brain regions engage and disengage is key to understanding the function of neural networks,” the authors write.
“Ketamine-evoked changes in the EEG provide an interesting tool for studying such networks, not only in the normal brain but also in neurological diseases in which cognitive and psychiatric disorder are prominent.”
The findings are reported in Scientific Reports.
I see Covid-19 and Dexamethasone are not friends.
monkey skipper said:
Ketamine Experiment Reveals Brain Phenomenon
Peter Dockrill 3 hrs ago
© Nicol & Morton, Scientific Reports, 2020
Doses of the drug ketamine administered to sheep during research into Huntington’s disease have revealed new insights into how the anaesthetic works on the brain to create its pain-numbing and dissociative effects.
Most strikingly, when the animals were given high doses at one stage of the experiment, electroencephalography (EEG) readings of their cortical activity appeared to show brain activity turning off completely, in an instant.
This complete cessation of cortical EEG activity – a phenomenon that the team says has never previously been described – lasted for up to several minutes in the test subjects, before their brain activity roused once more.
“This wasn’t just reduced brain activity. After the high dose of ketamine the brains of these sheep completely stopped. We’ve never seen that before,” says neurobiologist Jenny Morton from the University of Cambridge.
“A few minutes later their brains were functioning normally again – it was as though they had just been switched off and on.”
The findings underscore how much we have yet to learn about the effects of ketamine on brain activity. The neuroactive drug was first synthesised in the 1960s, and has been used in the decades since as a pain-relief medication and sedative for both human patients and animals.
In recent years, ketamine has also shown promise in treating a range of other conditions, including depression, post-traumatic stress disorder, and migraines.
More notoriously, in high doses the substance has long been popular as a recreational drug that induces a strong dissociative and sometimes catatonic state, often called the ‘K-hole’ – a “state of oblivion likened to a near death experience”, as Morton and fellow researcher Alister Nicol write in their new study.
“Subjective effects include perceptual distortions, sensations of floating, vivid dreams or illusions, distortion of sense of time and space, and alterations in mood state and body awareness,” the researchers explain
.
“At a sufficiently high dose, both awareness of self and surroundings, and interactions with others become profoundly impaired.”
While the primary aim of the team’s larger research project is to explore how therapeutic drugs act on the brain in a sheep model of Huntington’s disease, the findings reported here come from experiments using only healthy sheep – albeit animals with EEG devices surgically implanted onto their skulls, for the purposes of recording the brain’s electrical activity.“Our purpose wasn’t really to look at the effects of ketamine, but to use it as a tool to probe the brain activity in sheep with and without the Huntington’s disease gene,” says Morton. “But our surprising findings could help explain how ketamine works.”
In the study, which lasted a number of months, the sheep were given different levels of ketamine doses, ranging from very low (3 milligrams per kilogram of body weight) up to the highest dose given of 24 mg/kg (which is at the high end of the anaesthetic range, and the low end of when the drug is used for recreational purposes).Regardless of the dose, the sheep’s readings generally followed three distinct sequential phases of activity: a period of sedation from the anaesthetic, followed by a period of dissociative consciousness without voluntary movement, followed by a period of basically full alertness, although still no voluntary movement.
During the second phase, as the animals emerged from sedation, the researchers identified an alternating oscillatory state in the brain readings, where the output of the whole cortex switched between bursts of low and high frequency oscillations.
“While the subjective experience of sheep cannot be determined,” the authors write, “the clinical and psychic profile of ketamine administration is very well described in humans, and the timing makes it likely that this ‘oscillation of oscillations’ underlies the dissociative state caused by ketamine.”That’s not all. At the highest doses given (24 mg/kg), the researchers observed an even more remarkable response, with EEG activity ceasing completely in five of the six sheep tested – a phenomenon the researchers called the ‘EEG hole’, occurring two minutes after the drug was delivered.
“To our knowledge, this is the first report of such an effect,” the team explains. “It seems likely that the total cessation of cortical activity underpins the phenomenon known as the ‘K-hole’.”
As Morton explained to Inverse, the EEG hole doesn’t necessarily mean that all brain activity had stopped. If so, the animals might have stopped breathing. Instead, the plummeting EEG reading just reflects a very strange cessation of the usual electrical activity we can detect in the brain during normal circumstances.“The activity in the cortex in some of the sheep stops completely for a short time,” Morton told Inverse. “But the brain is not dead or damaged.”
Within a few minutes, the EEG hole lifted, and the sheep displayed brain activity otherwise consistent with the phases of the drug seen at lower doses.While we still don’t know how ketamine exerts these unusual effects on the brain, the researchers say exploring the drug’s physiological mechanisms could help us learn more about how the brain works as a whole – which is especially important in the context of brain disorders, such as schizophrenia.
“Understanding how different brain regions engage and disengage is key to understanding the function of neural networks,” the authors write.
“Ketamine-evoked changes in the EEG provide an interesting tool for studying such networks, not only in the normal brain but also in neurological diseases in which cognitive and psychiatric disorder are prominent.”
The findings are reported in Scientific Reports.
Based on my observations of sheep, it doesn’t take much to stop their brains working: Walking past a stick on the ground, seeing a fence post, hearing literally any noise, grass, hills, other sheep…
party_pants said:
Anyone here ever tried making vegetable oil lamps of the wick style?Are they safe? Safe-ish for household use? Instead of candles.
My dad had this oil lamp made by a blacksmith in the Czech Republic. It hangs above the fruit bowl on the kitchen bench. I don’t believe it is safe to use, but this is simply because it is sometimes bumped. Thankfully it has never been bumped when lit. We buy lamp oil for it. Does that burn differently from vegetable oil?
Rule 303 said:
monkey skipper said:Ketamine Experiment Reveals Brain Phenomenon
Peter Dockrill 3 hrs ago
© Nicol & Morton, Scientific Reports, 2020
Doses of the drug ketamine administered to sheep during research into Huntington’s disease have revealed new insights into how the anaesthetic works on the brain to create its pain-numbing and dissociative effects.
Most strikingly, when the animals were given high doses at one stage of the experiment, electroencephalography (EEG) readings of their cortical activity appeared to show brain activity turning off completely, in an instant.
This complete cessation of cortical EEG activity – a phenomenon that the team says has never previously been described – lasted for up to several minutes in the test subjects, before their brain activity roused once more.
“This wasn’t just reduced brain activity. After the high dose of ketamine the brains of these sheep completely stopped. We’ve never seen that before,” says neurobiologist Jenny Morton from the University of Cambridge.
“A few minutes later their brains were functioning normally again – it was as though they had just been switched off and on.”
The findings underscore how much we have yet to learn about the effects of ketamine on brain activity. The neuroactive drug was first synthesised in the 1960s, and has been used in the decades since as a pain-relief medication and sedative for both human patients and animals.
In recent years, ketamine has also shown promise in treating a range of other conditions, including depression, post-traumatic stress disorder, and migraines.
More notoriously, in high doses the substance has long been popular as a recreational drug that induces a strong dissociative and sometimes catatonic state, often called the ‘K-hole’ – a “state of oblivion likened to a near death experience”, as Morton and fellow researcher Alister Nicol write in their new study.
“Subjective effects include perceptual distortions, sensations of floating, vivid dreams or illusions, distortion of sense of time and space, and alterations in mood state and body awareness,” the researchers explain
.
“At a sufficiently high dose, both awareness of self and surroundings, and interactions with others become profoundly impaired.”
While the primary aim of the team’s larger research project is to explore how therapeutic drugs act on the brain in a sheep model of Huntington’s disease, the findings reported here come from experiments using only healthy sheep – albeit animals with EEG devices surgically implanted onto their skulls, for the purposes of recording the brain’s electrical activity.“Our purpose wasn’t really to look at the effects of ketamine, but to use it as a tool to probe the brain activity in sheep with and without the Huntington’s disease gene,” says Morton. “But our surprising findings could help explain how ketamine works.”
In the study, which lasted a number of months, the sheep were given different levels of ketamine doses, ranging from very low (3 milligrams per kilogram of body weight) up to the highest dose given of 24 mg/kg (which is at the high end of the anaesthetic range, and the low end of when the drug is used for recreational purposes).Regardless of the dose, the sheep’s readings generally followed three distinct sequential phases of activity: a period of sedation from the anaesthetic, followed by a period of dissociative consciousness without voluntary movement, followed by a period of basically full alertness, although still no voluntary movement.
During the second phase, as the animals emerged from sedation, the researchers identified an alternating oscillatory state in the brain readings, where the output of the whole cortex switched between bursts of low and high frequency oscillations.
“While the subjective experience of sheep cannot be determined,” the authors write, “the clinical and psychic profile of ketamine administration is very well described in humans, and the timing makes it likely that this ‘oscillation of oscillations’ underlies the dissociative state caused by ketamine.”That’s not all. At the highest doses given (24 mg/kg), the researchers observed an even more remarkable response, with EEG activity ceasing completely in five of the six sheep tested – a phenomenon the researchers called the ‘EEG hole’, occurring two minutes after the drug was delivered.
“To our knowledge, this is the first report of such an effect,” the team explains. “It seems likely that the total cessation of cortical activity underpins the phenomenon known as the ‘K-hole’.”
As Morton explained to Inverse, the EEG hole doesn’t necessarily mean that all brain activity had stopped. If so, the animals might have stopped breathing. Instead, the plummeting EEG reading just reflects a very strange cessation of the usual electrical activity we can detect in the brain during normal circumstances.“The activity in the cortex in some of the sheep stops completely for a short time,” Morton told Inverse. “But the brain is not dead or damaged.”
Within a few minutes, the EEG hole lifted, and the sheep displayed brain activity otherwise consistent with the phases of the drug seen at lower doses.While we still don’t know how ketamine exerts these unusual effects on the brain, the researchers say exploring the drug’s physiological mechanisms could help us learn more about how the brain works as a whole – which is especially important in the context of brain disorders, such as schizophrenia.
“Understanding how different brain regions engage and disengage is key to understanding the function of neural networks,” the authors write.
“Ketamine-evoked changes in the EEG provide an interesting tool for studying such networks, not only in the normal brain but also in neurological diseases in which cognitive and psychiatric disorder are prominent.”
The findings are reported in Scientific Reports.Based on my observations of sheep, it doesn’t take much to stop their brains working: Walking past a stick on the ground, seeing a fence post, hearing literally any noise, grass, hills, other sheep…
hehe.
Rule 303 said:
monkey skipper said:Ketamine Experiment Reveals Brain Phenomenon
Peter Dockrill 3 hrs ago
© Nicol & Morton, Scientific Reports, 2020
Doses of the drug ketamine administered to sheep during research into Huntington’s disease have revealed new insights into how the anaesthetic works on the brain to create its pain-numbing and dissociative effects.
Most strikingly, when the animals were given high doses at one stage of the experiment, electroencephalography (EEG) readings of their cortical activity appeared to show brain activity turning off completely, in an instant.
This complete cessation of cortical EEG activity – a phenomenon that the team says has never previously been described – lasted for up to several minutes in the test subjects, before their brain activity roused once more.
“This wasn’t just reduced brain activity. After the high dose of ketamine the brains of these sheep completely stopped. We’ve never seen that before,” says neurobiologist Jenny Morton from the University of Cambridge.
“A few minutes later their brains were functioning normally again – it was as though they had just been switched off and on.”
The findings underscore how much we have yet to learn about the effects of ketamine on brain activity. The neuroactive drug was first synthesised in the 1960s, and has been used in the decades since as a pain-relief medication and sedative for both human patients and animals.
In recent years, ketamine has also shown promise in treating a range of other conditions, including depression, post-traumatic stress disorder, and migraines.
More notoriously, in high doses the substance has long been popular as a recreational drug that induces a strong dissociative and sometimes catatonic state, often called the ‘K-hole’ – a “state of oblivion likened to a near death experience”, as Morton and fellow researcher Alister Nicol write in their new study.
“Subjective effects include perceptual distortions, sensations of floating, vivid dreams or illusions, distortion of sense of time and space, and alterations in mood state and body awareness,” the researchers explain
.
“At a sufficiently high dose, both awareness of self and surroundings, and interactions with others become profoundly impaired.”
While the primary aim of the team’s larger research project is to explore how therapeutic drugs act on the brain in a sheep model of Huntington’s disease, the findings reported here come from experiments using only healthy sheep – albeit animals with EEG devices surgically implanted onto their skulls, for the purposes of recording the brain’s electrical activity.“Our purpose wasn’t really to look at the effects of ketamine, but to use it as a tool to probe the brain activity in sheep with and without the Huntington’s disease gene,” says Morton. “But our surprising findings could help explain how ketamine works.”
In the study, which lasted a number of months, the sheep were given different levels of ketamine doses, ranging from very low (3 milligrams per kilogram of body weight) up to the highest dose given of 24 mg/kg (which is at the high end of the anaesthetic range, and the low end of when the drug is used for recreational purposes).Regardless of the dose, the sheep’s readings generally followed three distinct sequential phases of activity: a period of sedation from the anaesthetic, followed by a period of dissociative consciousness without voluntary movement, followed by a period of basically full alertness, although still no voluntary movement.
During the second phase, as the animals emerged from sedation, the researchers identified an alternating oscillatory state in the brain readings, where the output of the whole cortex switched between bursts of low and high frequency oscillations.
“While the subjective experience of sheep cannot be determined,” the authors write, “the clinical and psychic profile of ketamine administration is very well described in humans, and the timing makes it likely that this ‘oscillation of oscillations’ underlies the dissociative state caused by ketamine.”That’s not all. At the highest doses given (24 mg/kg), the researchers observed an even more remarkable response, with EEG activity ceasing completely in five of the six sheep tested – a phenomenon the researchers called the ‘EEG hole’, occurring two minutes after the drug was delivered.
“To our knowledge, this is the first report of such an effect,” the team explains. “It seems likely that the total cessation of cortical activity underpins the phenomenon known as the ‘K-hole’.”
As Morton explained to Inverse, the EEG hole doesn’t necessarily mean that all brain activity had stopped. If so, the animals might have stopped breathing. Instead, the plummeting EEG reading just reflects a very strange cessation of the usual electrical activity we can detect in the brain during normal circumstances.“The activity in the cortex in some of the sheep stops completely for a short time,” Morton told Inverse. “But the brain is not dead or damaged.”
Within a few minutes, the EEG hole lifted, and the sheep displayed brain activity otherwise consistent with the phases of the drug seen at lower doses.While we still don’t know how ketamine exerts these unusual effects on the brain, the researchers say exploring the drug’s physiological mechanisms could help us learn more about how the brain works as a whole – which is especially important in the context of brain disorders, such as schizophrenia.
“Understanding how different brain regions engage and disengage is key to understanding the function of neural networks,” the authors write.
“Ketamine-evoked changes in the EEG provide an interesting tool for studying such networks, not only in the normal brain but also in neurological diseases in which cognitive and psychiatric disorder are prominent.”
The findings are reported in Scientific Reports.Based on my observations of sheep, it doesn’t take much to stop their brains working: Walking past a stick on the ground, seeing a fence post, hearing literally any noise, grass, hills, other sheep…
My farming uncle once told me the only thing dumber than sheep are the farmers who run them.
I remember being taught about Ben Boyd in Grade 6. Doesn’t seem like I got the same story. Somehow in the 60s slaughtering whales at sea was pretty romantic and nation building. Boyd doesn’t have much going for him these days.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-16/blackbirder-ben-boyd-renaming-push-renewed/12358978
Rule 303 said:
monkey skipper said:Ketamine Experiment Reveals Brain Phenomenon
Peter Dockrill 3 hrs ago
© Nicol & Morton, Scientific Reports, 2020
Doses of the drug ketamine administered to sheep during research into Huntington’s disease have revealed new insights into how the anaesthetic works on the brain to create its pain-numbing and dissociative effects.
Most strikingly, when the animals were given high doses at one stage of the experiment, electroencephalography (EEG) readings of their cortical activity appeared to show brain activity turning off completely, in an instant.
This complete cessation of cortical EEG activity – a phenomenon that the team says has never previously been described – lasted for up to several minutes in the test subjects, before their brain activity roused once more.
“This wasn’t just reduced brain activity. After the high dose of ketamine the brains of these sheep completely stopped. We’ve never seen that before,” says neurobiologist Jenny Morton from the University of Cambridge.
“A few minutes later their brains were functioning normally again – it was as though they had just been switched off and on.”
The findings underscore how much we have yet to learn about the effects of ketamine on brain activity. The neuroactive drug was first synthesised in the 1960s, and has been used in the decades since as a pain-relief medication and sedative for both human patients and animals.
In recent years, ketamine has also shown promise in treating a range of other conditions, including depression, post-traumatic stress disorder, and migraines.
More notoriously, in high doses the substance has long been popular as a recreational drug that induces a strong dissociative and sometimes catatonic state, often called the ‘K-hole’ – a “state of oblivion likened to a near death experience”, as Morton and fellow researcher Alister Nicol write in their new study.
“Subjective effects include perceptual distortions, sensations of floating, vivid dreams or illusions, distortion of sense of time and space, and alterations in mood state and body awareness,” the researchers explain
.
“At a sufficiently high dose, both awareness of self and surroundings, and interactions with others become profoundly impaired.”
While the primary aim of the team’s larger research project is to explore how therapeutic drugs act on the brain in a sheep model of Huntington’s disease, the findings reported here come from experiments using only healthy sheep – albeit animals with EEG devices surgically implanted onto their skulls, for the purposes of recording the brain’s electrical activity.“Our purpose wasn’t really to look at the effects of ketamine, but to use it as a tool to probe the brain activity in sheep with and without the Huntington’s disease gene,” says Morton. “But our surprising findings could help explain how ketamine works.”
In the study, which lasted a number of months, the sheep were given different levels of ketamine doses, ranging from very low (3 milligrams per kilogram of body weight) up to the highest dose given of 24 mg/kg (which is at the high end of the anaesthetic range, and the low end of when the drug is used for recreational purposes).Regardless of the dose, the sheep’s readings generally followed three distinct sequential phases of activity: a period of sedation from the anaesthetic, followed by a period of dissociative consciousness without voluntary movement, followed by a period of basically full alertness, although still no voluntary movement.
During the second phase, as the animals emerged from sedation, the researchers identified an alternating oscillatory state in the brain readings, where the output of the whole cortex switched between bursts of low and high frequency oscillations.
“While the subjective experience of sheep cannot be determined,” the authors write, “the clinical and psychic profile of ketamine administration is very well described in humans, and the timing makes it likely that this ‘oscillation of oscillations’ underlies the dissociative state caused by ketamine.”That’s not all. At the highest doses given (24 mg/kg), the researchers observed an even more remarkable response, with EEG activity ceasing completely in five of the six sheep tested – a phenomenon the researchers called the ‘EEG hole’, occurring two minutes after the drug was delivered.
“To our knowledge, this is the first report of such an effect,” the team explains. “It seems likely that the total cessation of cortical activity underpins the phenomenon known as the ‘K-hole’.”
As Morton explained to Inverse, the EEG hole doesn’t necessarily mean that all brain activity had stopped. If so, the animals might have stopped breathing. Instead, the plummeting EEG reading just reflects a very strange cessation of the usual electrical activity we can detect in the brain during normal circumstances.“The activity in the cortex in some of the sheep stops completely for a short time,” Morton told Inverse. “But the brain is not dead or damaged.”
Within a few minutes, the EEG hole lifted, and the sheep displayed brain activity otherwise consistent with the phases of the drug seen at lower doses.While we still don’t know how ketamine exerts these unusual effects on the brain, the researchers say exploring the drug’s physiological mechanisms could help us learn more about how the brain works as a whole – which is especially important in the context of brain disorders, such as schizophrenia.
“Understanding how different brain regions engage and disengage is key to understanding the function of neural networks,” the authors write.
“Ketamine-evoked changes in the EEG provide an interesting tool for studying such networks, not only in the normal brain but also in neurological diseases in which cognitive and psychiatric disorder are prominent.”
The findings are reported in Scientific Reports.Based on my observations of sheep, it doesn’t take much to stop their brains working: Walking past a stick on the ground, seeing a fence post, hearing literally any noise, grass, hills, other sheep…
“the trubble is, sheep are very dim!”
Witty Rejoinder said:
Rule 303 said:
monkey skipper said:Ketamine Experiment Reveals Brain Phenomenon
Peter Dockrill 3 hrs ago
© Nicol & Morton, Scientific Reports, 2020
Doses of the drug ketamine administered to sheep during research into Huntington’s disease have revealed new insights into how the anaesthetic works on the brain to create its pain-numbing and dissociative effects.
Most strikingly, when the animals were given high doses at one stage of the experiment, electroencephalography (EEG) readings of their cortical activity appeared to show brain activity turning off completely, in an instant.
This complete cessation of cortical EEG activity – a phenomenon that the team says has never previously been described – lasted for up to several minutes in the test subjects, before their brain activity roused once more.
“This wasn’t just reduced brain activity. After the high dose of ketamine the brains of these sheep completely stopped. We’ve never seen that before,” says neurobiologist Jenny Morton from the University of Cambridge.
“A few minutes later their brains were functioning normally again – it was as though they had just been switched off and on.”
The findings underscore how much we have yet to learn about the effects of ketamine on brain activity. The neuroactive drug was first synthesised in the 1960s, and has been used in the decades since as a pain-relief medication and sedative for both human patients and animals.
In recent years, ketamine has also shown promise in treating a range of other conditions, including depression, post-traumatic stress disorder, and migraines.
More notoriously, in high doses the substance has long been popular as a recreational drug that induces a strong dissociative and sometimes catatonic state, often called the ‘K-hole’ – a “state of oblivion likened to a near death experience”, as Morton and fellow researcher Alister Nicol write in their new study.
“Subjective effects include perceptual distortions, sensations of floating, vivid dreams or illusions, distortion of sense of time and space, and alterations in mood state and body awareness,” the researchers explain
.
“At a sufficiently high dose, both awareness of self and surroundings, and interactions with others become profoundly impaired.”
While the primary aim of the team’s larger research project is to explore how therapeutic drugs act on the brain in a sheep model of Huntington’s disease, the findings reported here come from experiments using only healthy sheep – albeit animals with EEG devices surgically implanted onto their skulls, for the purposes of recording the brain’s electrical activity.“Our purpose wasn’t really to look at the effects of ketamine, but to use it as a tool to probe the brain activity in sheep with and without the Huntington’s disease gene,” says Morton. “But our surprising findings could help explain how ketamine works.”
In the study, which lasted a number of months, the sheep were given different levels of ketamine doses, ranging from very low (3 milligrams per kilogram of body weight) up to the highest dose given of 24 mg/kg (which is at the high end of the anaesthetic range, and the low end of when the drug is used for recreational purposes).Regardless of the dose, the sheep’s readings generally followed three distinct sequential phases of activity: a period of sedation from the anaesthetic, followed by a period of dissociative consciousness without voluntary movement, followed by a period of basically full alertness, although still no voluntary movement.
During the second phase, as the animals emerged from sedation, the researchers identified an alternating oscillatory state in the brain readings, where the output of the whole cortex switched between bursts of low and high frequency oscillations.
“While the subjective experience of sheep cannot be determined,” the authors write, “the clinical and psychic profile of ketamine administration is very well described in humans, and the timing makes it likely that this ‘oscillation of oscillations’ underlies the dissociative state caused by ketamine.”That’s not all. At the highest doses given (24 mg/kg), the researchers observed an even more remarkable response, with EEG activity ceasing completely in five of the six sheep tested – a phenomenon the researchers called the ‘EEG hole’, occurring two minutes after the drug was delivered.
“To our knowledge, this is the first report of such an effect,” the team explains. “It seems likely that the total cessation of cortical activity underpins the phenomenon known as the ‘K-hole’.”
As Morton explained to Inverse, the EEG hole doesn’t necessarily mean that all brain activity had stopped. If so, the animals might have stopped breathing. Instead, the plummeting EEG reading just reflects a very strange cessation of the usual electrical activity we can detect in the brain during normal circumstances.“The activity in the cortex in some of the sheep stops completely for a short time,” Morton told Inverse. “But the brain is not dead or damaged.”
Within a few minutes, the EEG hole lifted, and the sheep displayed brain activity otherwise consistent with the phases of the drug seen at lower doses.While we still don’t know how ketamine exerts these unusual effects on the brain, the researchers say exploring the drug’s physiological mechanisms could help us learn more about how the brain works as a whole – which is especially important in the context of brain disorders, such as schizophrenia.
“Understanding how different brain regions engage and disengage is key to understanding the function of neural networks,” the authors write.
“Ketamine-evoked changes in the EEG provide an interesting tool for studying such networks, not only in the normal brain but also in neurological diseases in which cognitive and psychiatric disorder are prominent.”
The findings are reported in Scientific Reports.Based on my observations of sheep, it doesn’t take much to stop their brains working: Walking past a stick on the ground, seeing a fence post, hearing literally any noise, grass, hills, other sheep…
My farming uncle once told me the only thing dumber than sheep are the farmers who run them.
harsh …they’re a lot of maintenance as I understand things
Witty Rejoinder said:
Rule 303 said:
monkey skipper said:Ketamine Experiment Reveals Brain Phenomenon
Peter Dockrill 3 hrs ago
© Nicol & Morton, Scientific Reports, 2020
Doses of the drug ketamine administered to sheep during research into Huntington’s disease have revealed new insights into how the anaesthetic works on the brain to create its pain-numbing and dissociative effects.
Most strikingly, when the animals were given high doses at one stage of the experiment, electroencephalography (EEG) readings of their cortical activity appeared to show brain activity turning off completely, in an instant.
This complete cessation of cortical EEG activity – a phenomenon that the team says has never previously been described – lasted for up to several minutes in the test subjects, before their brain activity roused once more.
“This wasn’t just reduced brain activity. After the high dose of ketamine the brains of these sheep completely stopped. We’ve never seen that before,” says neurobiologist Jenny Morton from the University of Cambridge.
“A few minutes later their brains were functioning normally again – it was as though they had just been switched off and on.”
The findings underscore how much we have yet to learn about the effects of ketamine on brain activity. The neuroactive drug was first synthesised in the 1960s, and has been used in the decades since as a pain-relief medication and sedative for both human patients and animals.
In recent years, ketamine has also shown promise in treating a range of other conditions, including depression, post-traumatic stress disorder, and migraines.
More notoriously, in high doses the substance has long been popular as a recreational drug that induces a strong dissociative and sometimes catatonic state, often called the ‘K-hole’ – a “state of oblivion likened to a near death experience”, as Morton and fellow researcher Alister Nicol write in their new study.
“Subjective effects include perceptual distortions, sensations of floating, vivid dreams or illusions, distortion of sense of time and space, and alterations in mood state and body awareness,” the researchers explain
.
“At a sufficiently high dose, both awareness of self and surroundings, and interactions with others become profoundly impaired.”
While the primary aim of the team’s larger research project is to explore how therapeutic drugs act on the brain in a sheep model of Huntington’s disease, the findings reported here come from experiments using only healthy sheep – albeit animals with EEG devices surgically implanted onto their skulls, for the purposes of recording the brain’s electrical activity.“Our purpose wasn’t really to look at the effects of ketamine, but to use it as a tool to probe the brain activity in sheep with and without the Huntington’s disease gene,” says Morton. “But our surprising findings could help explain how ketamine works.”
In the study, which lasted a number of months, the sheep were given different levels of ketamine doses, ranging from very low (3 milligrams per kilogram of body weight) up to the highest dose given of 24 mg/kg (which is at the high end of the anaesthetic range, and the low end of when the drug is used for recreational purposes).Regardless of the dose, the sheep’s readings generally followed three distinct sequential phases of activity: a period of sedation from the anaesthetic, followed by a period of dissociative consciousness without voluntary movement, followed by a period of basically full alertness, although still no voluntary movement.
During the second phase, as the animals emerged from sedation, the researchers identified an alternating oscillatory state in the brain readings, where the output of the whole cortex switched between bursts of low and high frequency oscillations.
“While the subjective experience of sheep cannot be determined,” the authors write, “the clinical and psychic profile of ketamine administration is very well described in humans, and the timing makes it likely that this ‘oscillation of oscillations’ underlies the dissociative state caused by ketamine.”That’s not all. At the highest doses given (24 mg/kg), the researchers observed an even more remarkable response, with EEG activity ceasing completely in five of the six sheep tested – a phenomenon the researchers called the ‘EEG hole’, occurring two minutes after the drug was delivered.
“To our knowledge, this is the first report of such an effect,” the team explains. “It seems likely that the total cessation of cortical activity underpins the phenomenon known as the ‘K-hole’.”
As Morton explained to Inverse, the EEG hole doesn’t necessarily mean that all brain activity had stopped. If so, the animals might have stopped breathing. Instead, the plummeting EEG reading just reflects a very strange cessation of the usual electrical activity we can detect in the brain during normal circumstances.“The activity in the cortex in some of the sheep stops completely for a short time,” Morton told Inverse. “But the brain is not dead or damaged.”
Within a few minutes, the EEG hole lifted, and the sheep displayed brain activity otherwise consistent with the phases of the drug seen at lower doses.While we still don’t know how ketamine exerts these unusual effects on the brain, the researchers say exploring the drug’s physiological mechanisms could help us learn more about how the brain works as a whole – which is especially important in the context of brain disorders, such as schizophrenia.
“Understanding how different brain regions engage and disengage is key to understanding the function of neural networks,” the authors write.
“Ketamine-evoked changes in the EEG provide an interesting tool for studying such networks, not only in the normal brain but also in neurological diseases in which cognitive and psychiatric disorder are prominent.”
The findings are reported in Scientific Reports.Based on my observations of sheep, it doesn’t take much to stop their brains working: Walking past a stick on the ground, seeing a fence post, hearing literally any noise, grass, hills, other sheep…
My farming uncle once told me the only thing dumber than sheep are the farmers who run them.
Guinea fowl: Hahahahahahahahaha
JudgeMental said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Rule 303 said:Based on my observations of sheep, it doesn’t take much to stop their brains working: Walking past a stick on the ground, seeing a fence post, hearing literally any noise, grass, hills, other sheep…
My farming uncle once told me the only thing dumber than sheep are the farmers who run them.
Guinea fowl: Hahahahahahahahaha
True. I used to call our guineas..‘the aliens.’
I’ve heard turkeys are not bright.
WENDELL HUSSEY | Cadet | CONTACT
The AFL has confirmed this morning that it is currently working around the clock to fix the issue of crowdless stadiums.
This followed a weekend of empty stadiums, with the slight exception of a thousand or so at the Adelaide Oval, which left the games players directionless and wayward.
Begrudgingly speaking to The Advocate this morning, AFL boss Gillon McLachlan told us that getting some people into the ground is priority number one.
“Everyone could see the boys were a bit all over the shop. I mean it was like taking the training wheels off not having obese blokes drinking Carlton Draft screaming at them,” he said.
“When you learn to play in that environment where you are constantly being told how to kick, how to handball, how to tackle, where to be and then all of a sudden it’s gone, it’s quite a shock to the system,” he said.
“It would be like talking Daniel Riccardo’s radio away during a race.”
McLachlan explained that if worst comes to worst they will just have to blast that kind of crowd noise over the stadium speakers.
“Probably without the booing of Indigenous players, but we’ve gotta try and keep it realistic.”
What about alpacas are they bright?
JudgeMental said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Rule 303 said:Based on my observations of sheep, it doesn’t take much to stop their brains working: Walking past a stick on the ground, seeing a fence post, hearing literally any noise, grass, hills, other sheep…
My farming uncle once told me the only thing dumber than sheep are the farmers who run them.
Guinea fowl: Hahahahahahahahaha
At least Guinea Fowl will run away from danger! Sheep will stand in flooding water until they drown because they can’t see any reason to walk up a slight hill.
Rule 303 said:
JudgeMental said:
Witty Rejoinder said:My farming uncle once told me the only thing dumber than sheep are the farmers who run them.
Guinea fowl: Hahahahahahahahaha
At least Guinea Fowl will run away from danger! Sheep will stand in flooding water until they drown because they can’t see any reason to walk up a slight hill.
IM(L)E sheep tend to run for the nearest open ground and outrun the danger, rather than heading sideways for the scrub. I get the odd few straying onto the bicycle path and they are a PITA. They won’t get off the damn path they’ll just run ahead of you. You don’t want to risk overtaking them in case they take a sudden turn and knock you off the bike. So you just pedal behind and after a hundred metres or so they just give up, then you can overtake them. Not amount of yelling at them will make them get off the path and into the scrub.
monkey skipper said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Rule 303 said:Based on my observations of sheep, it doesn’t take much to stop their brains working: Walking past a stick on the ground, seeing a fence post, hearing literally any noise, grass, hills, other sheep…
My farming uncle once told me the only thing dumber than sheep are the farmers who run them.
harsh …they’re a lot of maintenance as I understand things
As a sheep farmer himself he was no doubt speaking from experience. :-)
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:
JudgeMental said:Guinea fowl: Hahahahahahahahaha
At least Guinea Fowl will run away from danger! Sheep will stand in flooding water until they drown because they can’t see any reason to walk up a slight hill.
IM(L)E sheep tend to run for the nearest open ground and outrun the danger, rather than heading sideways for the scrub. I get the odd few straying onto the bicycle path and they are a PITA. They won’t get off the damn path they’ll just run ahead of you. You don’t want to risk overtaking them in case they take a sudden turn and knock you off the bike. So you just pedal behind and after a hundred metres or so they just give up, then you can overtake them. Not amount of yelling at them will make them get off the path and into the scrub.
Oh yeah, they’re dumber than shit. Dumber even than Hanson supporters.
If Trump had a spirit animal, it would be a sheep.
Witty Rejoinder said:
monkey skipper said:
Witty Rejoinder said:My farming uncle once told me the only thing dumber than sheep are the farmers who run them.
harsh …they’re a lot of maintenance as I understand things
As a sheep farmer himself he was no doubt speaking from experience. :-)
It is interesting as there is a rivalry between sheep farmers and cattle farmers even if playfully so.
monkey skipper said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
monkey skipper said:harsh …they’re a lot of maintenance as I understand things
As a sheep farmer himself he was no doubt speaking from experience. :-)
It is interesting as there is a rivalry between sheep farmers and cattle farmers even if playfully so.
My grandfather was a cattle farmer, poll shorthorn, and looked askance at anyone who smelt of mutton.
sibeen said:
My grandfather was a cattle farmer, poll shorthorn,
Nup, NHOH.
party_pants said:
sibeen said:My grandfather was a cattle farmer, poll shorthorn,
Nup, NHOH.
I only can remember three letter acronyms (TLA). I have no idea what you just said.
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:My grandfather was a cattle farmer, poll shorthorn,
Nup, NHOH.
I only can remember three letter acronyms (TLA). I have no idea what you just said.
never heard of him
North Korea blows up joint liaison office with South in Kaesong
North Korea has blown up a joint liaison office with the South near the North’s border town of Kaesong.
The move comes just hours after the North renewed threats of military action at the Korean border.
The site was opened in 2018 to help the Koreas – officially in a state of war – to communicate. It had been empty since January due to Covid-19 restrictions.
In a statement, South Korea warned it would “respond strongly” if the North “continues to worsen the situation”.
The destruction of the office, it said, “abandons the hopes of everyone who wanted the development of inter-Korean relations and peace settlement in the Korean Peninsula”.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-53060620

Spectacular jelly
https://i.imgur.com/eGPpipm.mp4
Another country with British heritage.
Senator Rachel Siewert
5 hrs ·
#BREAKING – the WA Upper House has just passed the Fines, Penalties and Infringement Notices Bill. Once this bill passes the Lower House, people will no longer be put in jail due to an inability to pay a fine in WA.
This is an absolutely essential piece of legislation that is just the beginning of urgently needed reforms to fight systemic racism and inequality in WA’s justice system.
Congratulations to Social Reinvestment WA for running an incredibly community campaign.
—-
That saves some lives.
possibly they mean sex rather than gender but there you go, even that is almost a cultural construct without skincare or haircare impact
https://www.abc.net.au/life/do-men-and-women-need-different-skin-and-haircare-products/12251728
Good morning Holidayers. Five degrees, overcast and light fog. Forecast is for a partly cloudy 13. Apparently the sun is planning a performance without cloud tomorrow.
5 degrees in the Styx and clear, I thin there was a fog earlier while I was running but I couldn’t tell…it was dark.
poikilotherm said:
5 degrees in the Styx and clear, I thin there was a fog earlier while I was running but I couldn’t tell…it was dark.
When you start running in the morning alone in the dark in the middle of winter you know you’ve got a running problem.
Mornin’. It’s all happening here today, it’s car service day AND bin/recycling day.
Divine Angel said:
Mornin’. It’s all happening here today, it’s car service day AND bin/recycling day.
Splendid.
Scoffing a substantial hot breakfast this end (bow-tie pasta with diced hen boob, onion, garlic, stock & seasonings etc).
Grappled with insomnia again last night, so today I’m staying awake as long as I can while washing bedding and towels etc.
Divine Angel said:
Mornin’. It’s all happening here today, it’s car service day AND bin/recycling day.
Bread-making day and remove tall ladder from bathroom day here.
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Mornin’. It’s all happening here today, it’s car service day AND bin/recycling day.
Bread-making day and remove tall ladder from bathroom day here.
Ooh, I should make some bread too. Our starter, Rapunzel, is all nice and stinky.
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Mornin’. It’s all happening here today, it’s car service day AND bin/recycling day.
Bread-making day and remove tall ladder from bathroom day here.
Town today for essential food shopping.
Bubblecar said:
Divine Angel said:
Mornin’. It’s all happening here today, it’s car service day AND bin/recycling day.
Splendid.
Scoffing a substantial hot breakfast this end (bow-tie pasta with diced hen boob, onion, garlic, stock & seasonings etc).
Grappled with insomnia again last night, so today I’m staying awake as long as I can while washing bedding and towels etc.
I didn’t sleep terribly well. Combination of having to use the loo a lot, the earplug in my right ear causing pain (it’s the side I sleep on), Jellybean hogging my blanket, and bizarre dreams.
I have a recurring dream that I am unprepared for my HSC exams. Last night I dreamed I finally finished year 12, and there was a waterslide thing happening, but there were more and more slides. Not just water slides, but promotional slides so while you were sliding, you could grab merchandise and claim it at the bottom of the slide. I got a new hair colour, some Disney tote bags, and some children’s books. Then the police breath tested me to see if I was able to drive Mini Me’s little car home.
The other dream involved my nose bleeding profusely as I followed CGI spiders to a bathroom in order to kill an evil witch.
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Mornin’. It’s all happening here today, it’s car service day AND bin/recycling day.
Bread-making day and remove tall ladder from bathroom day here.
Ooh, I should make some bread too. Our starter, Rapunzel, is all nice and stinky.
Ours – unnamed – has a mild sour smell. It’s certainly not stinky.
Divine Angel said:
Bubblecar said:
Divine Angel said:
Mornin’. It’s all happening here today, it’s car service day AND bin/recycling day.
Splendid.
Scoffing a substantial hot breakfast this end (bow-tie pasta with diced hen boob, onion, garlic, stock & seasonings etc).
Grappled with insomnia again last night, so today I’m staying awake as long as I can while washing bedding and towels etc.
I didn’t sleep terribly well. Combination of having to use the loo a lot, the earplug in my right ear causing pain (it’s the side I sleep on), Jellybean hogging my blanket, and bizarre dreams.
I have a recurring dream that I am unprepared for my HSC exams. Last night I dreamed I finally finished year 12, and there was a waterslide thing happening, but there were more and more slides. Not just water slides, but promotional slides so while you were sliding, you could grab merchandise and claim it at the bottom of the slide. I got a new hair colour, some Disney tote bags, and some children’s books. Then the police breath tested me to see if I was able to drive Mini Me’s little car home.
The other dream involved my nose bleeding profusely as I followed CGI spiders to a bathroom in order to kill an evil witch.
LOLs.
Divine Angel said:
Bubblecar said:
Divine Angel said:
Mornin’. It’s all happening here today, it’s car service day AND bin/recycling day.
Splendid.
Scoffing a substantial hot breakfast this end (bow-tie pasta with diced hen boob, onion, garlic, stock & seasonings etc).
Grappled with insomnia again last night, so today I’m staying awake as long as I can while washing bedding and towels etc.
I didn’t sleep terribly well. Combination of having to use the loo a lot, the earplug in my right ear causing pain (it’s the side I sleep on), Jellybean hogging my blanket, and bizarre dreams.
I have a recurring dream that I am unprepared for my HSC exams. Last night I dreamed I finally finished year 12, and there was a waterslide thing happening, but there were more and more slides. Not just water slides, but promotional slides so while you were sliding, you could grab merchandise and claim it at the bottom of the slide. I got a new hair colour, some Disney tote bags, and some children’s books. Then the police breath tested me to see if I was able to drive Mini Me’s little car home.
The other dream involved my nose bleeding profusely as I followed CGI spiders to a bathroom in order to kill an evil witch.
:)
You certainly get an interesting show with that lot.
I usually love my dreams but last night there was a very sad one (I can’t remember much about it except the sorrow and fear of further sorrow) which is not what I’m normally looking for in a dream.
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Bubblecar said:Splendid.
Scoffing a substantial hot breakfast this end (bow-tie pasta with diced hen boob, onion, garlic, stock & seasonings etc).
Grappled with insomnia again last night, so today I’m staying awake as long as I can while washing bedding and towels etc.
I didn’t sleep terribly well. Combination of having to use the loo a lot, the earplug in my right ear causing pain (it’s the side I sleep on), Jellybean hogging my blanket, and bizarre dreams.
I have a recurring dream that I am unprepared for my HSC exams. Last night I dreamed I finally finished year 12, and there was a waterslide thing happening, but there were more and more slides. Not just water slides, but promotional slides so while you were sliding, you could grab merchandise and claim it at the bottom of the slide. I got a new hair colour, some Disney tote bags, and some children’s books. Then the police breath tested me to see if I was able to drive Mini Me’s little car home.
The other dream involved my nose bleeding profusely as I followed CGI spiders to a bathroom in order to kill an evil witch.
LOLs.
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Mornin’. It’s all happening here today, it’s car service day AND bin/recycling day.
Bread-making day and remove tall ladder from bathroom day here.
I have to divide my day up into part garden part cleaning organising cataloguing and throwing away all manner of Jewellery store left overs. Set up watch and clock workshop again.
Anybody want their leather briefcase or wallet gold stamped?
Their rings stretched rolled or squeezed down?
Tamb said:
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:I didn’t sleep terribly well. Combination of having to use the loo a lot, the earplug in my right ear causing pain (it’s the side I sleep on), Jellybean hogging my blanket, and bizarre dreams.
I have a recurring dream that I am unprepared for my HSC exams. Last night I dreamed I finally finished year 12, and there was a waterslide thing happening, but there were more and more slides. Not just water slides, but promotional slides so while you were sliding, you could grab merchandise and claim it at the bottom of the slide. I got a new hair colour, some Disney tote bags, and some children’s books. Then the police breath tested me to see if I was able to drive Mini Me’s little car home.
The other dream involved my nose bleeding profusely as I followed CGI spiders to a bathroom in order to kill an evil witch.
LOLs.
You really need to buy better quality drugs.
or grow your own.
https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2020/06/13/who-morrison-looking-after/15919704009961
Greetings
I’m not saying this is a good cartoon but I like the twists. In panel 2 we are led to think it is going to be salacious, then in pnael 3 we are “phew he just meant he needs the oil to literally get him in the car”, and then in panel 4 okay back to step-porn
dv said:
would say your tolerance level is quite high .. or your entertainment satiation rate quite low.
![]()
I’m not saying this is a good cartoon but I like the twists. In panel 2 we are led to think it is going to be salacious, then in pnael 3 we are “phew he just meant he needs the oil to literally get him in the car”, and then in panel 4 okay back to step-porn
Arts said:
dv said:would say your tolerance level is quite high .. or your entertainment satiation rate quite low.
![]()
I’m not saying this is a good cartoon but I like the twists. In panel 2 we are led to think it is going to be salacious, then in pnael 3 we are “phew he just meant he needs the oil to literally get him in the car”, and then in panel 4 okay back to step-porn
He could be a Trump fan as well
Arts said:
dv said:would say your tolerance level is quite high .. or your entertainment satiation rate quite low.
![]()
I’m not saying this is a good cartoon but I like the twists. In panel 2 we are led to think it is going to be salacious, then in pnael 3 we are “phew he just meant he needs the oil to literally get him in the car”, and then in panel 4 okay back to step-porn
I try to see the up side
Our office is actually at risk of running out of work to do.
We don’t generate our own work we rely on what is sent to us by Community Corrections through out the state.
Myself, and three others (one whom is working from home) actually have nothing to do and there is not much waiting to be processed.
It makes the day extremely long and tedious as it is we’ve had to slow down our pace so we have things to do each day.
dv said:
Arts said:
dv said:would say your tolerance level is quite high .. or your entertainment satiation rate quite low.
![]()
I’m not saying this is a good cartoon but I like the twists. In panel 2 we are led to think it is going to be salacious, then in pnael 3 we are “phew he just meant he needs the oil to literally get him in the car”, and then in panel 4 okay back to step-porn
I try to see the up side
Is that a panel 3 type comment, or a panel 4 type comment?
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
Arts said:would say your tolerance level is quite high .. or your entertainment satiation rate quite low.I try to see the up side
Is that a panel 3 type comment, or a panel 4 type comment?
Panel 5 could have the words “You’re the best step brother ever”
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Mornin’. It’s all happening here today, it’s car service day AND bin/recycling day.
Bread-making day and remove tall ladder from bathroom day here.
I have to divide my day up into part garden part cleaning organising cataloguing and throwing away all manner of Jewellery store left overs. Set up watch and clock workshop again.
Anybody want their leather briefcase or wallet gold stamped?
Their rings stretched rolled or squeezed down?
I have a fob watch that needs (at least) a service.
dv said:
Arts said:
dv said:would say your tolerance level is quite high .. or your entertainment satiation rate quite low.
![]()
I’m not saying this is a good cartoon but I like the twists. In panel 2 we are led to think it is going to be salacious, then in pnael 3 we are “phew he just meant he needs the oil to literally get him in the car”, and then in panel 4 okay back to step-porn
I try to see the up side
you are a beacon of brightness.
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/16/asia/china-india-border-clash-intl-hnk/index.html
(CNN)At least 20 Indian soldiers have died after a “violent face-off” with Chinese troops along the countries’ de facto border in the Himalayas late Monday, the Indian army has said.
The incident occurred during a “deescalation process” underway in the Galwan Valley in the disputed Aksai Chin-Ladakh area, where a large troop build-up has reportedly been taking place for weeks now on both sides of the border, before senior military commanders began talks earlier this month.
—-
Deescalation
dv said:
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/16/asia/china-india-border-clash-intl-hnk/index.html(CNN)At least 20 Indian soldiers have died after a “violent face-off” with Chinese troops along the countries’ de facto border in the Himalayas late Monday, the Indian army has said.
The incident occurred during a “deescalation process” underway in the Galwan Valley in the disputed Aksai Chin-Ladakh area, where a large troop build-up has reportedly been taking place for weeks now on both sides of the border, before senior military commanders began talks earlier this month.
—-
Deescalation
Indian soldiers were “beaten to death” doesn’t sound deescalated at all, you could perhaps understand bullets flying if some trigger happy person fired shots and set it off
i’ll make my own coffee
how demanding is boiling kettle
Wage theft to become a crime as Victoria’s parliament passes new laws
This would be a bad time to be running a shady small business in Victoria: Shut down, lost your staff, and now you’re going to gaol.
LOL.
Rule 303 said:
Wage theft to become a crime as Victoria’s parliament passes new lawsThis would be a bad time to be running a shady small business in Victoria: Shut down, lost your staff, and now you’re going to gaol.
LOL.
Good.
In the circumstances, the purely hypothetical billion is hardly life-threatening. But for the Murdoch press, that was entirely irrelevant. Next day the mouldering mogul’s mercenary minions mobilised to invent a revolt, an outpouring of popular outrage about what the increasingly Duttonesque Matthias Corman characterised as the selfish and self-indulgent protests.
https://www.echo.net.au/2020/06/thus-spake-mungo-the-revolt/
there I was thinking that the maroon five song lyrics was ‘dreams bring back all the memories’. only to find out today that it’s drinks.. the drinks bring back all the memories.
I think both work as a one liner, but only drinks work in the context of the rest of the song..
Lunch: microwave “roasted” potatoes with butter, a homemade slaw and cheese. Washed down with sparkling water.
But two Indian security officials familiar with latest developments said that soldiers from the two sides engaged in fistfights and stone-throwing, which led to the casualties. Both said that no shots were fired by either side. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity in keeping with government regulations.
https://www.theage.com.au/world/asia/india-says-20-soldiers-killed-in-clash-with-chinese-troops-20200617-p553ag.html
…
India and China are engaged in WWIV. Did i miss WWIII?
Witty Rejoinder said:
But two Indian security officials familiar with latest developments said that soldiers from the two sides engaged in fistfights and stone-throwing, which led to the casualties. Both said that no shots were fired by either side. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity in keeping with government regulations.https://www.theage.com.au/world/asia/india-says-20-soldiers-killed-in-clash-with-chinese-troops-20200617-p553ag.html
…
India and China are engaged in WWIV. Did i miss WWIII?
They have been involved in border clashes for years.
Witty Rejoinder said:
But two Indian security officials familiar with latest developments said that soldiers from the two sides engaged in fistfights and stone-throwing, which led to the casualties. Both said that no shots were fired by either side. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity in keeping with government regulations.https://www.theage.com.au/world/asia/india-says-20-soldiers-killed-in-clash-with-chinese-troops-20200617-p553ag.html
…
India and China are engaged in WWIV. Did i miss WWIII?
:)
Heard a thump from the back yard and immediately thought “Oh oh, a bird’s hit a window”.
Looked out and down, and sure enough feathers flying everywhere and a pigeon on the ground with what looked like a broken wing.
Then realised that it wasn’t a broken wing, it was two birds. Why two pigeons?
Top bird turned its head to look up at me, a hawk, same grey as a pigeon and same size.
Then hawk turned away and flew off with the pigeon in its talons. A hawk had killed a pigeon in my back yard :-)
Possibly a sparrowhawk or goshawk?
That’s enough time off for lunch. Back out into the garden. I need to hedge back the rosemary, mulch the ginger and galangal (they seem to be “resting” but not dead, so I’ll give them time). And it’s just about time to cut down the asparagus and feed and mulch that too. So I might get onto that this afternoon.
mollwollfumble said:
Heard a thump from the back yard and immediately thought “Oh oh, a bird’s hit a window”.Looked out and down, and sure enough feathers flying everywhere and a pigeon on the ground with what looked like a broken wing.
Then realised that it wasn’t a broken wing, it was two birds. Why two pigeons?
Top bird turned its head to look up at me, a hawk, same grey as a pigeon and same size.
Then hawk turned away and flew off with the pigeon in its talons. A hawk had killed a pigeon in my back yard :-)
Possibly a sparrowhawk or goshawk?
Mrs V’s brother has just been diagnosed with brain cancer, likely metastatic melanoma. He’s had several melanomas removed in the past few years. Apparently he’s been offered radiotherapy.
Michael V said:
Mrs V’s brother has just been diagnosed with brain cancer, likely metastatic melanoma. He’s had several melanomas removed in the past few years. Apparently he’s been offered radiotherapy.
Damn. How are the odds?
Michael V said:
Mrs V’s brother has just been diagnosed with brain cancer, likely metastatic melanoma. He’s had several melanomas removed in the past few years. Apparently he’s been offered radiotherapy.
:(
dv said:
Michael V said:
Mrs V’s brother has just been diagnosed with brain cancer, likely metastatic melanoma. He’s had several melanomas removed in the past few years. Apparently he’s been offered radiotherapy.
Damn. How are the odds?
According to the electric internet, not all that good. eg:
https://bmccancer.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12885-018-4374-x
Michael V said:
dv said:
Michael V said:
Mrs V’s brother has just been diagnosed with brain cancer, likely metastatic melanoma. He’s had several melanomas removed in the past few years. Apparently he’s been offered radiotherapy.
Damn. How are the odds?
According to the electric internet, not all that good. eg:
https://bmccancer.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12885-018-4374-x
:(
Michael V said:
dv said:
Michael V said:
Mrs V’s brother has just been diagnosed with brain cancer, likely metastatic melanoma. He’s had several melanomas removed in the past few years. Apparently he’s been offered radiotherapy.
Damn. How are the odds?
According to the electric internet, not all that good. eg:
https://bmccancer.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12885-018-4374-x
Tamb said:
Michael V said:
dv said:Damn. How are the odds?
According to the electric internet, not all that good. eg:
https://bmccancer.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12885-018-4374-x
Looks like a get your affairs in order scenario.
Yes it does look like that.
Tamb said:
mollwollfumble said:
Heard a thump from the back yard and immediately thought “Oh oh, a bird’s hit a window”.Looked out and down, and sure enough feathers flying everywhere and a pigeon on the ground with what looked like a broken wing.
Then realised that it wasn’t a broken wing, it was two birds. Why two pigeons?
Top bird turned its head to look up at me, a hawk, same grey as a pigeon and same size.
Then hawk turned away and flew off with the pigeon in its talons. A hawk had killed a pigeon in my back yard :-)
Possibly a sparrowhawk or goshawk?
Obviously a pigeonhawk.
Mrs m not happy at all, cleaning up all the blood and feathers. She estimates 500 feathers, I think more like 1000.
A few of the feathers, some three or so, came off the hawk, so I could get a DNA analysis to find out which hawk it is. I’m not going to.
To Michael V, sorry to hear that.
In other news, I slept in my coronavirus mask last night and am glad I did. I think it stopped mrs m from catching my cold. Right now I’m hoping the mask can help me social distance from the refrigerator.
Michael V said:
Mrs V’s brother has just been diagnosed with brain cancer, likely metastatic melanoma. He’s had several melanomas removed in the past few years. Apparently he’s been offered radiotherapy.
I’m sorry to hear that. Please give Mrs V a hug from me.
Michael V said:
Mrs V’s brother has just been diagnosed with brain cancer, likely metastatic melanoma. He’s had several melanomas removed in the past few years. Apparently he’s been offered radiotherapy.
Buggerit.
:-(
mollwollfumble said:
Tamb said:
mollwollfumble said:
Heard a thump from the back yard and immediately thought “Oh oh, a bird’s hit a window”.Looked out and down, and sure enough feathers flying everywhere and a pigeon on the ground with what looked like a broken wing.
Then realised that it wasn’t a broken wing, it was two birds. Why two pigeons?
Top bird turned its head to look up at me, a hawk, same grey as a pigeon and same size.
Then hawk turned away and flew off with the pigeon in its talons. A hawk had killed a pigeon in my back yard :-)
Possibly a sparrowhawk or goshawk?
Obviously a pigeonhawk.Mrs m not happy at all, cleaning up all the blood and feathers. She estimates 500 feathers, I think more like 1000.
A few of the feathers, some three or so, came off the hawk, so I could get a DNA analysis to find out which hawk it is. I’m not going to.
To Michael V, sorry to hear that.
In other news, I slept in my coronavirus mask last night and am glad I did. I think it stopped mrs m from catching my cold. Right now I’m hoping the mask can help me social distance from the refrigerator.
Um…we just sleep in separate beds in separate rooms if one of us has got a cold. This was important when we were both working and still important when Mr buffy had retired and I had not. Both of us spent many years getting very close to lots of people.
few there top the page from walk earlier, there were birds everywhere, conspiring they were to overwhelm me with multiple targets simultaneously, and hiding mostly
https://www.flickr.com/photos/164337984@N08/
transition said:
few there top the page from walk earlier, there were birds everywhere, conspiring they were to overwhelm me with multiple targets simultaneously, and hiding mostly
https://www.flickr.com/photos/164337984@N08/
You’ve missed your calling.
This offender attempted to attack someone with a hammer, rock and scissors, now if only the hammer with replaced with paper
While our car is having its service, we have a loan car. The screen has a message when you turn it on:
My favourite part is the “actual” road rules, as opposed the ones you just made up.
For those who don’t read sideways…
Cymek said:
This offender attempted to attack someone with a hammer, rock and scissors, now if only the hammer with replaced with paper
Paper cuts are the worst, man!
Divine Angel said:
While our car is having its service, we have a loan car. The screen has a message when you turn it on:
My favourite part is the “actual” road rules, as opposed the ones you just made up.
I suspect it was originally “fucking” but they had to tone it down because wowsers.
mollwollfumble said:
Tamb said:
mollwollfumble said:
Heard a thump from the back yard and immediately thought “Oh oh, a bird’s hit a window”.Looked out and down, and sure enough feathers flying everywhere and a pigeon on the ground with what looked like a broken wing.
Then realised that it wasn’t a broken wing, it was two birds. Why two pigeons?
Top bird turned its head to look up at me, a hawk, same grey as a pigeon and same size.
Then hawk turned away and flew off with the pigeon in its talons. A hawk had killed a pigeon in my back yard :-)
Possibly a sparrowhawk or goshawk?
Obviously a pigeonhawk.Mrs m not happy at all, cleaning up all the blood and feathers. She estimates 500 feathers, I think more like 1000.
A few of the feathers, some three or so, came off the hawk, so I could get a DNA analysis to find out which hawk it is. I’m not going to.
To Michael V, sorry to hear that.
In other news, I slept in my coronavirus mask last night and am glad I did. I think it stopped mrs m from catching my cold. Right now I’m hoping the mask can help me social distance from the refrigerator.
Cold? Have you had (or going to have) the COVID-19 test? Remember they recommend a test for even the mildest of symptoms.
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:
Mrs V’s brother has just been diagnosed with brain cancer, likely metastatic melanoma. He’s had several melanomas removed in the past few years. Apparently he’s been offered radiotherapy.
I’m sorry to hear that. Please give Mrs V a hug from me.
I will.
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:
Mrs V’s brother has just been diagnosed with brain cancer, likely metastatic melanoma. He’s had several melanomas removed in the past few years. Apparently he’s been offered radiotherapy.
I’m sorry to hear that. Please give Mrs V a hug from me.
damn..
I got my ethics approval today… so now I can start torturing people…
Arts said:
I got my ethics approval today… so now I can start torturing people…
So long as you’re torturing them ethically.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Arts said:
I got my ethics approval today… so now I can start torturing people…
So long as you’re torturing them ethically.
approved and sanctioned.
Arts said:
I got my ethics approval today… so now I can start torturing people…
Speaking of which… do you happen to k ow anything about self harm? I promise this is research only. I have no intention nor fantasies about doing it.
Arts said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Arts said:
I got my ethics approval today… so now I can start torturing people…
So long as you’re torturing them ethically.
approved and sanctioned.
Electric shocks ?
Looking at my home via the cameras, rain has come in
Cymek said:
Looking at my home via the cameras, rain has come in
I just got caught out in the worst of it. Bit scary, headlights on and wipers going as fast as they can and I still could barely see where I was going. Visibility down to less than 100 m.
Divine Angel said:
Arts said:
I got my ethics approval today… so now I can start torturing people…
Speaking of which… do you happen to k ow anything about self harm? I promise this is research only. I have no intention nor fantasies about doing it.
I know almost nothing about self harm apart from the release of pain through pain infliction… some people say they felt like the only way they can let go of pain is by cutting… but I suspect that in some cases the self harm is due to self hatred rather than pain release. I say this with only passing knowledge gained through watching juvenile prisoner studies.
party_pants said:
Cymek said:
Looking at my home via the cameras, rain has come in
I just got caught out in the worst of it. Bit scary, headlights on and wipers going as fast as they can and I still could barely see where I was going. Visibility down to less than 100 m.
just pelted down here.. very grey outside and the temp just dropped..
party_pants said:
Cymek said:
Looking at my home via the cameras, rain has come in
I just got caught out in the worst of it. Bit scary, headlights on and wipers going as fast as they can and I still could barely see where I was going. Visibility down to less than 100 m.
Yes I can see water pouring out the down pipes for the water tanks
Arts said:
I got my ethics approval today… so now I can start torturing people…
Spill it then.
Cymek said:
party_pants said:
Cymek said:
Looking at my home via the cameras, rain has come in
I just got caught out in the worst of it. Bit scary, headlights on and wipers going as fast as they can and I still could barely see where I was going. Visibility down to less than 100 m.
Yes I can see water pouring out the down pipes for the water tanks
the great thing is that the kids are going to be soaked on the ride home.
Arts said:
Cymek said:
party_pants said:I just got caught out in the worst of it. Bit scary, headlights on and wipers going as fast as they can and I still could barely see where I was going. Visibility down to less than 100 m.
Yes I can see water pouring out the down pipes for the water tanks
the great thing is that the kids are going to be soaked on the ride home.
Hopefully it will clear up a bit by then.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Arts said:
I got my ethics approval today… so now I can start torturing people…
Spill it then.
it’s a longitudinal study on how a person responds to a multitude of characters on a little known forum..
Arts said:
Cymek said:
party_pants said:I just got caught out in the worst of it. Bit scary, headlights on and wipers going as fast as they can and I still could barely see where I was going. Visibility down to less than 100 m.
Yes I can see water pouring out the down pipes for the water tanks
the great thing is that the kids are going to be soaked on the ride home.
Just have a sympathetic face when they come through the door
Arts said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Arts said:
I got my ethics approval today… so now I can start torturing people…
Spill it then.
it’s a longitudinal study on how a person responds to a multitude of characters on a little known forum..
All of which are just the split personalities of one person
Arts said:
party_pants said:
Cymek said:
Looking at my home via the cameras, rain has come in
I just got caught out in the worst of it. Bit scary, headlights on and wipers going as fast as they can and I still could barely see where I was going. Visibility down to less than 100 m.
just pelted down here.. very grey outside and the temp just dropped..
over here, but teemed down.
Arts said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Arts said:
I got my ethics approval today… so now I can start torturing people…
Spill it then.
it’s a longitudinal study on how a person responds to a multitude of characters on a little known forum..
Peter Carey already wrote about it: The Fat Man in History.
Cymek said:
Arts said:
Cymek said:Yes I can see water pouring out the down pipes for the water tanks
the great thing is that the kids are going to be soaked on the ride home.
Just have a sympathetic face when they come through the door
LOL, s’if.
JudgeMental said:
Cymek said:
Arts said:the great thing is that the kids are going to be soaked on the ride home.
Just have a sympathetic face when they come through the door
LOL, s’if.
I mean, I’ll try.
JudgeMental said:
Cymek said:
Arts said:the great thing is that the kids are going to be soaked on the ride home.
Just have a sympathetic face when they come through the door
LOL, s’if.
She studies human behavior should be able to fake it
Arts said:
I got my ethics approval today… so now I can start torturing people…
Use of unnecessary violence HAS been approved
Arts said:
JudgeMental said:
Cymek said:Just have a sympathetic face when they come through the door
LOL, s’if.
I mean, I’ll try.
here

HTH
JudgeMental said:
Arts said:
I got my ethics approval today… so now I can start torturing people…
Use of unnecessary violence HAS been approved
Electric shocks
I’m studying the effect of negative reinforcement on ESP ability.
JudgeMental said:
Arts said:
JudgeMental said:LOL, s’if.
I mean, I’ll try.
here
HTH
do I have to do my hair all Karen like that?
Arts said:
JudgeMental said:
Arts said:I mean, I’ll try.
here
HTH
do I have to do my hair all Karen like that?
What about Granny from The Addams Family
esselte said:
Speedy said:
Is anyone here familiar with Export Declaration Forms? We have previously sent products of high value overseas to the US and South Africa, but this customer in Armenia insists we need to complete one of these forms. What is this all about?
It’s a requirement of the EAEU harmonized tariffs (CET).
According to EAEU requirements customs clearance, as a general rule, should be performed in the jurisdiction of the respective participants in foreign economic operations. For example, goods transiting to Armenia and/or Kazakhstan from foreign suppliers through Russia are customs cleared at the EAEU’s external frontier in Russia. This is the same procedure for items entering Armenia and Kazakhstan destined for other countries within the EAEU. Armenia does not have common border with and EAEU members, all goods must transit through Georgia, adding complications which have yet to be fully resolved.
Customs requires importers to present a customs declaration form with a commercial invoice indicating the specifications, quantity, and value of goods being imported. In addition, to ensure that imports will be valued by the transaction method of valuation, documentation must meet the requirements enumerated in the Import Tariffs section of this guide. The State Customs Committee has implemented an on-line declaration process (Direct Trader Input or “DTI”) which reduces personal contact between customs officials and importers.
Armenia’s accession to the Russian-led Eurasian Customs Union and the EAEU on January 2, 2015 has resulted in increased customs tariffs for the majority of imports. Armenia was required to harmonize its customs tariffs with those of the EAEU, with temporary exemptions for up to five years, for around 500 key imported goods (including foodstuffs). The common external tariff (CET) for the EAEU largely corresponds with Russian tariff rates. The Eurasian Economic Commission (EAEC) is the multilateral entity established by EAEU member countries to manage the Union. The EAEC handles the harmonization of all issues such as tariffs, tariff rate quotas, and licensing and certification between the member countries. However, implementation so far has been uneven and national governments still retain some discretion.
I’m sure you will all be pleased to know that this has now been sorted. The Australian Border Force people told me this morning that it is the agent, Aramex, who needs to complete this form, not us. Aramex (formerly Fastway Couriers) had no idea how this process works, but have collected the consignment and will figure it out. They also sent me a new barcode as the original one they supplied couldn’t be scanned by the driver.
Arts said:
Divine Angel said:
Arts said:
I got my ethics approval today… so now I can start torturing people…
Speaking of which… do you happen to k ow anything about self harm? I promise this is research only. I have no intention nor fantasies about doing it.
I know almost nothing about self harm apart from the release of pain through pain infliction… some people say they felt like the only way they can let go of pain is by cutting… but I suspect that in some cases the self harm is due to self hatred rather than pain release. I say this with only passing knowledge gained through watching juvenile prisoner studies.
I had never heard of self harm until I was perhaps in my late 20s. I thought it was an issue unique to teenagers of that time. A new craze, perhaps.
Was it really a new thing then, or was I just naive?
Speedy said:
Arts said:
Divine Angel said:Speaking of which… do you happen to k ow anything about self harm? I promise this is research only. I have no intention nor fantasies about doing it.
I know almost nothing about self harm apart from the release of pain through pain infliction… some people say they felt like the only way they can let go of pain is by cutting… but I suspect that in some cases the self harm is due to self hatred rather than pain release. I say this with only passing knowledge gained through watching juvenile prisoner studies.
I had never heard of self harm until I was perhaps in my late 20s. I thought it was an issue unique to teenagers of that time. A new craze, perhaps.
Was it really a new thing then, or was I just naive?
I think the action of harming oneself (so as not to kill but to create some sort of psychological release) has been around for a long time, the naming of it leaking into the mainstream seems to be a novel thing.. perhaps around the same time as discussion boards specific to certain subgroups…
Arts said:
Speedy said:
Arts said:I know almost nothing about self harm apart from the release of pain through pain infliction… some people say they felt like the only way they can let go of pain is by cutting… but I suspect that in some cases the self harm is due to self hatred rather than pain release. I say this with only passing knowledge gained through watching juvenile prisoner studies.
I had never heard of self harm until I was perhaps in my late 20s. I thought it was an issue unique to teenagers of that time. A new craze, perhaps.
Was it really a new thing then, or was I just naive?
I think the action of harming oneself (so as not to kill but to create some sort of psychological release) has been around for a long time, the naming of it leaking into the mainstream seems to be a novel thing.. perhaps around the same time as discussion boards specific to certain subgroups…
Scarification you do to yourself whilst a cultural/event specific would border on self harm perhaps
Arts said:
Speedy said:
Arts said:I know almost nothing about self harm apart from the release of pain through pain infliction… some people say they felt like the only way they can let go of pain is by cutting… but I suspect that in some cases the self harm is due to self hatred rather than pain release. I say this with only passing knowledge gained through watching juvenile prisoner studies.
I had never heard of self harm until I was perhaps in my late 20s. I thought it was an issue unique to teenagers of that time. A new craze, perhaps.
Was it really a new thing then, or was I just naive?
I think the action of harming oneself (so as not to kill but to create some sort of psychological release) has been around for a long time, the naming of it leaking into the mainstream seems to be a novel thing.. perhaps around the same time as discussion boards specific to certain subgroups…
So then once it had a name, and once more people became aware of it, it became more common?
Cymek said:
Arts said:
Speedy said:I had never heard of self harm until I was perhaps in my late 20s. I thought it was an issue unique to teenagers of that time. A new craze, perhaps.
Was it really a new thing then, or was I just naive?
I think the action of harming oneself (so as not to kill but to create some sort of psychological release) has been around for a long time, the naming of it leaking into the mainstream seems to be a novel thing.. perhaps around the same time as discussion boards specific to certain subgroups…
Scarification you do to yourself whilst a cultural/event specific would border on self harm perhaps
I think we need to look at motivations… I don’t think there is a spectrum of self harm that starts at scarification (for decorative purposes) and ends at cutting for psychological relief through physical pain… the motivations would determine the label.
Speedy said:
Arts said:
Speedy said:I had never heard of self harm until I was perhaps in my late 20s. I thought it was an issue unique to teenagers of that time. A new craze, perhaps.
Was it really a new thing then, or was I just naive?
I think the action of harming oneself (so as not to kill but to create some sort of psychological release) has been around for a long time, the naming of it leaking into the mainstream seems to be a novel thing.. perhaps around the same time as discussion boards specific to certain subgroups…
So then once it had a name, and once more people became aware of it, it became more common?
I don’t know…. perhaps it just became more talked about.
Cymek said:
Arts said:
Speedy said:I had never heard of self harm until I was perhaps in my late 20s. I thought it was an issue unique to teenagers of that time. A new craze, perhaps.
Was it really a new thing then, or was I just naive?
I think the action of harming oneself (so as not to kill but to create some sort of psychological release) has been around for a long time, the naming of it leaking into the mainstream seems to be a novel thing.. perhaps around the same time as discussion boards specific to certain subgroups…
Scarification you do to yourself whilst a cultural/event specific would border on self harm perhaps
I had thought of this, but I think it’s the purpose that makes all the difference.
Arts said:
Speedy said:
Arts said:I think the action of harming oneself (so as not to kill but to create some sort of psychological release) has been around for a long time, the naming of it leaking into the mainstream seems to be a novel thing.. perhaps around the same time as discussion boards specific to certain subgroups…
So then once it had a name, and once more people became aware of it, it became more common?
I don’t know…. perhaps it just became more talked about.
OK, so I was just naive :)
Speedy said:
Arts said:
Speedy said:So then once it had a name, and once more people became aware of it, it became more common?
I don’t know…. perhaps it just became more talked about.
OK, so I was just naive :)
I think there are many things that happen in commonality in this world that we (in our bubble of living) are unaware of… if that makes us naive then we are all that in some way.. the more we know the more we realise we don’t know…
Arts said:
Speedy said:
Arts said:I don’t know…. perhaps it just became more talked about.
OK, so I was just naive :)
I think there are many things that happen in commonality in this world that we (in our bubble of living) are unaware of… if that makes us naive then we are all that in some way.. the more we know the more we realise we don’t know…
not knowing is probably better termed ignorant than naive but what would we know
Speedy said:
Cymek said:
Arts said:I think the action of harming oneself (so as not to kill but to create some sort of psychological release) has been around for a long time, the naming of it leaking into the mainstream seems to be a novel thing.. perhaps around the same time as discussion boards specific to certain subgroups…
Scarification you do to yourself whilst a cultural/event specific would border on self harm perhaps
I had thought of this, but I think it’s the purpose that makes all the difference.
Race as well perhaps, tribesperson OK, some teenager in the burbs no even if the purpose is decoration
Arts said:
Speedy said:
Arts said:I don’t know…. perhaps it just became more talked about.
OK, so I was just naive :)
I think there are many things that happen in commonality in this world that we (in our bubble of living) are unaware of… if that makes us naive then we are all that in some way.. the more we know the more we realise we don’t know…
Especially living in Australia which is isolated and for the most part decent standard of living,
Food report: Mr buffy is cooking a leg of lamb with roast veggies tonight. We will select dessert from the box in the fridge. Our payment this week for the meat collection from Casterton was a box of assorted slices and cakes. So far we have each eaten half a neenish tart and half a lemon tart.
Mushroom report:

Arts said:
It looks a bread cutle. For some reason bread cutles make me angry.
SCIENCE said:
Arts said:
Speedy said:OK, so I was just naive :)
I think there are many things that happen in commonality in this world that we (in our bubble of living) are unaware of… if that makes us naive then we are all that in some way.. the more we know the more we realise we don’t know…
not knowing is probably better termed ignorant than naive but what would we know
I don’t agree. If someone doesn’t know something because they have never been exposed to it, or are too young, for example, to understand what is going on around them, they are naive. If they have had the opportunity to learn and have chosen to ignore it, they are ignorant.
Arts said:
:)
Fucking corona.
Just opened up a new package of Madura tea bags to find that there’s no tag, just a loop of string. Bastards!
https://www.maduratea.com.au/_c/talking-tea/tea-tag/
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jun/17/judge-says-peter-dutton-could-go-to-jail-if-he-defies-orders-in-immigration-case
JudgeMental said:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jun/17/judge-says-peter-dutton-could-go-to-jail-if-he-defies-orders-in-immigration-case
Maybe he’ll meet some mates from the good old days
dv said:
JudgeMental said:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jun/17/judge-says-peter-dutton-could-go-to-jail-if-he-defies-orders-in-immigration-case
Maybe he’ll meet some mates from the good old days
Oh my.
Anyway, I’m off to eat.
JudgeMental said:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jun/17/judge-says-peter-dutton-could-go-to-jail-if-he-defies-orders-in-immigration-case

coffee, and an apple, my tummy brain communicated to my bulbous brain on my shoulders that it would like an apple, there were threats of punishment, the exact message wasn’t eat an apple, the big brain had to work that out, decode the tummyese, the language my tummy speaks, fortunately they have a long association, a familiarity in this life, and there’s co-evolution too, their ancestors spoke to each other
funny thing isn’t, chewing food, then it gets started proper with an acid bath when it lands, then when it’s all done, well everyone mostly has an other end, and for what, that trip, energy for thought and physical activity
transition said:
coffee, and an apple, my tummy brain communicated to my bulbous brain on my shoulders that it would like an apple, there were threats of punishment, the exact message wasn’t eat an apple, the big brain had to work that out, decode the tummyese, the language my tummy speaks, fortunately they have a long association, a familiarity in this life, and there’s co-evolution too, their ancestors spoke to each otherfunny thing isn’t, chewing food, then it gets started proper with an acid bath when it lands, then when it’s all done, well everyone mostly has an other end, and for what, that trip, energy for thought and physical activity
:)
excellent
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-17/facial-surveillance-slowly-being-trialled-around-the-country/12308282
new DMZ idea
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-17/what-is-behind-the-india-china-border-dispute-lac/12363348
nice trade war
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/australia-could-partner-with-china-on-belt-and-road-initiative-projects-20200617-p553j9.html
sibeen said:
Fucking corona.Just opened up a new package of Madura tea bags to find that there’s no tag, just a loop of string. Bastards!
https://www.maduratea.com.au/_c/talking-tea/tea-tag/
Wait, are we just blaming corona for everything that goes wrong now?
Arts said:
sibeen said:
Fucking corona.Just opened up a new package of Madura tea bags to find that there’s no tag, just a loop of string. Bastards!
https://www.maduratea.com.au/_c/talking-tea/tea-tag/
Wait, are we just blaming corona for everything that goes wrong now?
Oh, FFS, do I have to do bloody everything. From the first line in the link – the first line!!
With the current global upheaval, we are experiencing a short supply of tea tags – sadly a matter outside of our control.
So yes, I am blaming corona in this instnace!
mumbles
stomps off
Arts said:
sibeen said:
Fucking corona.Just opened up a new package of Madura tea bags to find that there’s no tag, just a loop of string. Bastards!
https://www.maduratea.com.au/_c/talking-tea/tea-tag/
Wait, are we just blaming corona for everything that goes wrong now?
“With the current global upheaval … “
Yeah…which one?
sibeen said:
Arts said:
sibeen said:
Fucking corona.Just opened up a new package of Madura tea bags to find that there’s no tag, just a loop of string. Bastards!
https://www.maduratea.com.au/_c/talking-tea/tea-tag/
Wait, are we just blaming corona for everything that goes wrong now?
Oh, FFS, do I have to do bloody everything. From the first line in the link – the first line!!
With the current global upheaval, we are experiencing a short supply of tea tags – sadly a matter outside of our control.
So yes, I am blaming corona in this instnace!
mumbles
stomps off
oh yeah, in true forum style, I DIDN’T READ THE LINK.
TIL that in some parts of the USA they call night leg cramps Charlie horse…
Seems Harvey Weinstein’s deformed genitals are due to Fournier’s Gangrene. Sounds very nasty. Luckily my abscess infection missed the genitals etc completely (it was an upper thigh thing but they got to it via a groin incision). And I’m not diabetic.
What Is Fournier’s Gangrene?
When many people hear the term “gangrene,” they may think of toes or fingers being affected by loss of blood flow, infection, or hypothermia, which means the person’s body temperature has dropped, and remained, below 95 degrees. But with Fournier’s gangrene, your genitals and the area around them are affected. And hypothermia or circularion problems don’t cause it.
Gangrene happens when body tissue is dead or is dying (known as necrosis) because of a lack of blood flow or a bacterial infection.
Fournier’s gangrene involves an infection in the scrotum (which includes the testicles), penis, or perineum. The perineum is the area between the scrotum and anus for a man; or the area between the anus and vulva for a woman. The dead or dying tissue in people with this type of gangrene is often found in the genitals and can stretch to the thighs, stomach, and chest.
https://www.webmd.com/diabetes/what-is-fourniers-gangrene
Arts said:
sibeen said:
Arts said:Wait, are we just blaming corona for everything that goes wrong now?
Oh, FFS, do I have to do bloody everything. From the first line in the link – the first line!!
With the current global upheaval, we are experiencing a short supply of tea tags – sadly a matter outside of our control.
So yes, I am blaming corona in this instnace!
mumbles
stomps off
oh yeah, in true forum style, I DIDN’T READ THE LINK.
www.snopes.com/articles/was_corona_responsible_for_no_tag_on_madura_tea
I’m laid up in bed. Banged the patellar tendon of my right knee pretty hard. Even though I’ve taken painkillers and RICEd it, it’s still Bunnings sore.
Send drugs.
Bubblecar said:
Seems Harvey Weinstein’s deformed genitals are due to Fournier’s Gangrene. Sounds very nasty. Luckily my abscess infection missed the genitals etc completely (it was an upper thigh thing but they got to it via a groin incision). And I’m not diabetic.What Is Fournier’s Gangrene?
When many people hear the term “gangrene,” they may think of toes or fingers being affected by loss of blood flow, infection, or hypothermia, which means the person’s body temperature has dropped, and remained, below 95 degrees. But with Fournier’s gangrene, your genitals and the area around them are affected. And hypothermia or circularion problems don’t cause it.
Gangrene happens when body tissue is dead or is dying (known as necrosis) because of a lack of blood flow or a bacterial infection.
Fournier’s gangrene involves an infection in the scrotum (which includes the testicles), penis, or perineum. The perineum is the area between the scrotum and anus for a man; or the area between the anus and vulva for a woman. The dead or dying tissue in people with this type of gangrene is often found in the genitals and can stretch to the thighs, stomach, and chest.
https://www.webmd.com/diabetes/what-is-fourniers-gangrene
that doesn’t sound good.
Divine Angel said:
I’m laid up in bed. Banged the patellar tendon of my right knee pretty hard. Even though I’ve taken painkillers and RICEd it, it’s still Bunnings sore.Send drugs.
The best I can do is thoughts and prayers. I may be able to back that up with some placebo if it is really serious.
But I just borrowed an ebook from the liberry called Dorothy Must Die. Inspired by the Oz novels.
Divine Angel said:
I’m laid up in bed. Banged the patellar tendon of my right knee pretty hard. Even though I’ve taken painkillers and RICEd it, it’s still Bunnings sore.Send drugs.
That doesn’t sound good either. :(
Divine Angel said:
I’m laid up in bed. Banged the patellar tendon of my right knee pretty hard. Even though I’ve taken painkillers and RICEd it, it’s still Bunnings sore.Send drugs.
Ooh. Sympathies, what did you bang it on?
>RICED it
You’ve over-modified it with oversized or ill-matched exterior appointments?
sarahs mum said:
Divine Angel said:
I’m laid up in bed. Banged the patellar tendon of my right knee pretty hard. Even though I’ve taken painkillers and RICEd it, it’s still Bunnings sore.Send drugs.
That doesn’t sound good either. :(
Well I walked from the lounge room to the toilet to the bed, so that’s good.
Bubblecar said:
Divine Angel said:
I’m laid up in bed. Banged the patellar tendon of my right knee pretty hard. Even though I’ve taken painkillers and RICEd it, it’s still Bunnings sore.Send drugs.
Ooh. Sympathies, what did you bang it on?
>RICED it
You’ve over-modified it with oversized or ill-matched exterior appointments?
The corner of the coffee table.
RICE= rest, ice, compression, elevation. Cornerstone of injury treatment.
Divine Angel said:
Bubblecar said:
Divine Angel said:
I’m laid up in bed. Banged the patellar tendon of my right knee pretty hard. Even though I’ve taken painkillers and RICEd it, it’s still Bunnings sore.Send drugs.
Ooh. Sympathies, what did you bang it on?
>RICED it
You’ve over-modified it with oversized or ill-matched exterior appointments?
The corner of the coffee table.
RICE= rest, ice, compression, elevation. Cornerstone of injury treatment.
Ah. Google just gibbered about souped-up cars.
Bubblecar said:
Divine Angel said:
Bubblecar said:Ooh. Sympathies, what did you bang it on?
>RICED it
You’ve over-modified it with oversized or ill-matched exterior appointments?
The corner of the coffee table.
RICE= rest, ice, compression, elevation. Cornerstone of injury treatment.
Ah. Google just gibbered about souped-up cars.
Rule would be so disappointed in you 😛
JudgeMental said:
Arts said:
sibeen said:Oh, FFS, do I have to do bloody everything. From the first line in the link – the first line!!
With the current global upheaval, we are experiencing a short supply of tea tags – sadly a matter outside of our control.
So yes, I am blaming corona in this instnace!
mumbles
stomps off
oh yeah, in true forum style, I DIDN’T READ THE LINK.
www.snopes.com/articles/was_corona_responsible_for_no_tag_on_madura_tea
I tried to read that link but it’s dead
Divine Angel said:
I’m laid up in bed. Banged the patellar tendon of my right knee pretty hard. Even though I’ve taken painkillers and RICEd it, it’s still Bunnings sore.Send drugs.
I’ve got some oxycontin you’re welcome to. Can I send it through the internet?
Divine Angel said:
I’m laid up in bed. Banged the patellar tendon of my right knee pretty hard. Even though I’ve taken painkillers and RICEd it, it’s still Bunnings sore.Send drugs.
that’s roughy’s department
Arts said:
JudgeMental said:
Arts said:oh yeah, in true forum style, I DIDN’T READ THE LINK.
www.snopes.com/articles/was_corona_responsible_for_no_tag_on_madura_tea
I tried to read that link but it’s dead
must have taken it down.
:-)
btm said:
Divine Angel said:
I’m laid up in bed. Banged the patellar tendon of my right knee pretty hard. Even though I’ve taken painkillers and RICEd it, it’s still Bunnings sore.Send drugs.
I’ve got some oxycontin you’re welcome to. Can I send it through the internet?
Jaysus, you trying to make me an addict or sumfink?
JudgeMental said:
Arts said:
JudgeMental said:www.snopes.com/articles/was_corona_responsible_for_no_tag_on_madura_tea
I tried to read that link but it’s dead
must have taken it down.
:-)
but at least I tried to read the link… hmm. maybe it’s just who puts up the link as opposed to forum style.
this woman on our local ‘buy nothing’ page just ut on a toy light sabre and Called it a ‘Star Wars thingy’. it’s the best thing I have read all day
Arts said:
TIL that in some parts of the USA they call night leg cramps Charlie horse…
I remember reading that some time ago. And forgetting it again. I thought it referred to all sorts of cramp. I couldn’t fathom why you would call it that. So it got consigned to information I didn’t need to retain.
Arts said:
this woman on our local ‘buy nothing’ page just ut on a toy light sabre and Called it a ‘Star Wars thingy’. it’s the best thing I have read all day
Arts said:
Arts said:
this woman on our local ‘buy nothing’ page just ut on a toy light sabre and Called it a ‘Star Wars thingy’. it’s the best thing I have read all day
IDGI.
buffy said:
Arts said:
TIL that in some parts of the USA they call night leg cramps Charlie horse…I remember reading that some time ago. And forgetting it again. I thought it referred to all sorts of cramp. I couldn’t fathom why you would call it that. So it got consigned to information I didn’t need to retain.
It is likely that using “charley horse” to describe a muscle cramp comes from informal American sporting talk, dating back to the 1880s.
One theory is that the term comes from a baseball player who was talking about a lame horse. Horses used to help with groundskeeper jobs in baseball.
Another story, which appeared in the Washington Post in 1907, claimed that the name came from a baseball pitcher called Charley, who had muscle cramps during games in 1880.
Charley horses are not specifically related to the sport of baseball, and they can occur during any type of exercise.
JudgeMental said:
buffy said:
Arts said:
TIL that in some parts of the USA they call night leg cramps Charlie horse…I remember reading that some time ago. And forgetting it again. I thought it referred to all sorts of cramp. I couldn’t fathom why you would call it that. So it got consigned to information I didn’t need to retain.
It is likely that using “charley horse” to describe a muscle cramp comes from informal American sporting talk, dating back to the 1880s.
One theory is that the term comes from a baseball player who was talking about a lame horse. Horses used to help with groundskeeper jobs in baseball.
Another story, which appeared in the Washington Post in 1907, claimed that the name came from a baseball pitcher called Charley, who had muscle cramps during games in 1880.
Charley horses are not specifically related to the sport of baseball, and they can occur during any type of exercise.
I needed to ask for clarification on a hysterectomy page last year, when a woman claimed hers disappeared after her procedure. Surprisingly, the same happened for me, and mine were bad, “see a neurologist” bad. The term Charlie horses is even worse though. Americans are weird, different species “weird”.
Planes wedged together after collision at Aberdeen Airport
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-53076806

party_pants said:
Arts said:
Arts said:
this woman on our local ‘buy nothing’ page just ut on a toy light sabre and Called it a ‘Star Wars thingy’. it’s the best thing I have read all day
IDGI.
It’s just quietly amusing that she didn’t know what they’re called.
Arts said:
JudgeMental said:
Arts said:I tried to read that link but it’s dead
must have taken it down.
:-)
but at least I tried to read the link… hmm. maybe it’s just who puts up the link as opposed to forum style.
Stop that link reading, it’s not correct forum etiquette.
poikilotherm said:
Arts said:
JudgeMental said:must have taken it down.
:-)
but at least I tried to read the link… hmm. maybe it’s just who puts up the link as opposed to forum style.
Stop that link reading, it’s not correct forum etiquette.
I have been suitably chastised. now send DA some drugs please, she’s in pain
Arts said:
poikilotherm said:
Arts said:but at least I tried to read the link… hmm. maybe it’s just who puts up the link as opposed to forum style.
Stop that link reading, it’s not correct forum etiquette.
I have been suitably chastised. now send DA some drugs please, she’s in pain
especially dodgy links.
pancakes shortly, explore your envy
transition said:
pancakes shortly, explore your envy
bastard :p
get another fire going
listening joe satriani, some really wild music
transition said:
get another fire goinglistening joe satriani, some really wild music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_0khAAItqg
Divine Angel said:
btm said:
Divine Angel said:
I’m laid up in bed. Banged the patellar tendon of my right knee pretty hard. Even though I’ve taken painkillers and RICEd it, it’s still Bunnings sore.Send drugs.
I’ve got some oxycontin you’re welcome to. Can I send it through the internet?
Jaysus, you trying to make me an addict or sumfink?
There’s a couple of pretty fragile bursas in there (four). I would keep it cool and gently compress it and follow up with a GP tomorrow.
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
btm said:I’ve got some oxycontin you’re welcome to. Can I send it through the internet?
Jaysus, you trying to make me an addict or sumfink?
There’s a couple of pretty fragile bursas in there (four). I would keep it cool and gently compress it and follow up with a GP tomorrow.
pfft. if everyone just sent her drugs she wouldn’t need a gp.
Coalition MPs have helped install One Nation MP Rod Roberts to the coveted position of assistant president of the Legislative Council, entitling him to an extra $57,525 per year on top of his base salary of $169,192.
Mr Roberts secured the position by one vote after two rounds of voting, despite the Liberals initially backing Christian Democrat Fred Nile.
Mr Roberts, a former NSW policeman from Goulburn, was promoted after he told the upper house on Tuesday of his planned motion around Aboriginal deaths in custody, urging the chamber to note “the truth matters”.
“n NSW between 1995 and 2019, there were 923 deaths is custody, including 112 deaths of Aboriginal persons,” the motion says.
“Only 12 per cent of deaths in custody between 1995 and 2019 are attributed to Aboriginal persons.”
The motion passed unanimously on Wednesday after it was amended by Labor to include a reference to the over-representation of Aboriginal people in custody as “a national tragedy”, noting that “29 per cent of the total prison population are Aboriginal despite being only three per cent of the state’s population.”
Mr Roberts was elected assistant president in a secret ballot of upper house MPs, beating Labor’s Courtney Houssos by 21 votes to 20. The vote began as a three-way contest, with the government nominating Reverend Nile.
In response to Mr Roberts’ appointment, Labor upper house MP Rose Jackson tweeted: “This is a party that has bigotry and racism at its core. And now they have a senior position in our Parliament.”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/one-nation-mp-secures-role-after-planned-motion-around-aboriginal-deaths-in-custody-20200617-p553e1.html
Dribs and drabs.
I just learned that I have been saying this the wrong way for all my years.
dv said:
Coalition MPs have helped install One Nation MP Rod Roberts to the coveted position of assistant president of the Legislative Council, entitling him to an extra $57,525 per year on top of his base salary of $169,192.Mr Roberts secured the position by one vote after two rounds of voting, despite the Liberals initially backing Christian Democrat Fred Nile.
Mr Roberts, a former NSW policeman from Goulburn, was promoted after he told the upper house on Tuesday of his planned motion around Aboriginal deaths in custody, urging the chamber to note “the truth matters”.
“n NSW between 1995 and 2019, there were 923 deaths is custody, including 112 deaths of Aboriginal persons,” the motion says.
“Only 12 per cent of deaths in custody between 1995 and 2019 are attributed to Aboriginal persons.”
The motion passed unanimously on Wednesday after it was amended by Labor to include a reference to the over-representation of Aboriginal people in custody as “a national tragedy”, noting that “29 per cent of the total prison population are Aboriginal despite being only three per cent of the state’s population.”
Mr Roberts was elected assistant president in a secret ballot of upper house MPs, beating Labor’s Courtney Houssos by 21 votes to 20. The vote began as a three-way contest, with the government nominating Reverend Nile.
In response to Mr Roberts’ appointment, Labor upper house MP Rose Jackson tweeted: “This is a party that has bigotry and racism at its core. And now they have a senior position in our Parliament.”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/one-nation-mp-secures-role-after-planned-motion-around-aboriginal-deaths-in-custody-20200617-p553e1.html
;(
‘
‘
So much wrong. extensive and endemic wrong.
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
Coalition MPs have helped install One Nation MP Rod Roberts to the coveted position of assistant president of the Legislative Council, entitling him to an extra $57,525 per year on top of his base salary of $169,192.Mr Roberts secured the position by one vote after two rounds of voting, despite the Liberals initially backing Christian Democrat Fred Nile.
Mr Roberts, a former NSW policeman from Goulburn, was promoted after he told the upper house on Tuesday of his planned motion around Aboriginal deaths in custody, urging the chamber to note “the truth matters”.
“n NSW between 1995 and 2019, there were 923 deaths is custody, including 112 deaths of Aboriginal persons,” the motion says.
“Only 12 per cent of deaths in custody between 1995 and 2019 are attributed to Aboriginal persons.”
The motion passed unanimously on Wednesday after it was amended by Labor to include a reference to the over-representation of Aboriginal people in custody as “a national tragedy”, noting that “29 per cent of the total prison population are Aboriginal despite being only three per cent of the state’s population.”
Mr Roberts was elected assistant president in a secret ballot of upper house MPs, beating Labor’s Courtney Houssos by 21 votes to 20. The vote began as a three-way contest, with the government nominating Reverend Nile.
In response to Mr Roberts’ appointment, Labor upper house MP Rose Jackson tweeted: “This is a party that has bigotry and racism at its core. And now they have a senior position in our Parliament.”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/one-nation-mp-secures-role-after-planned-motion-around-aboriginal-deaths-in-custody-20200617-p553e1.html
;(
‘
‘So much wrong. extensive and endemic wrong.
JFC. :-(
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
Coalition MPs have helped install One Nation MP Rod Roberts to the coveted position of assistant president of the Legislative Council, entitling him to an extra $57,525 per year on top of his base salary of $169,192.Mr Roberts secured the position by one vote after two rounds of voting, despite the Liberals initially backing Christian Democrat Fred Nile.
Mr Roberts, a former NSW policeman from Goulburn, was promoted after he told the upper house on Tuesday of his planned motion around Aboriginal deaths in custody, urging the chamber to note “the truth matters”.
“n NSW between 1995 and 2019, there were 923 deaths is custody, including 112 deaths of Aboriginal persons,” the motion says.
“Only 12 per cent of deaths in custody between 1995 and 2019 are attributed to Aboriginal persons.”
The motion passed unanimously on Wednesday after it was amended by Labor to include a reference to the over-representation of Aboriginal people in custody as “a national tragedy”, noting that “29 per cent of the total prison population are Aboriginal despite being only three per cent of the state’s population.”
Mr Roberts was elected assistant president in a secret ballot of upper house MPs, beating Labor’s Courtney Houssos by 21 votes to 20. The vote began as a three-way contest, with the government nominating Reverend Nile.
In response to Mr Roberts’ appointment, Labor upper house MP Rose Jackson tweeted: “This is a party that has bigotry and racism at its core. And now they have a senior position in our Parliament.”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/one-nation-mp-secures-role-after-planned-motion-around-aboriginal-deaths-in-custody-20200617-p553e1.html
;(
‘
‘So much wrong. extensive and endemic wrong.
Yeah, They first back Fred Nile, and then the ON person. Neither of these seem a great choice.
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:;(
‘
‘So much wrong. extensive and endemic wrong.
Yeah, They first back Fred Nile, and then the ON person. Neither of these seem a great choice.
I can’t believe Fred Nile is still alive!
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:;(
‘
‘So much wrong. extensive and endemic wrong.
Yeah, They first back Fred Nile, and then the ON person. Neither of these seem a great choice.
I can’t believe Fred Nile is still alive!
yeah.He is in his 80s now. You’d think he’d retire and enjoy his generous parliamentary pension at some stage.
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:;(
‘
‘So much wrong. extensive and endemic wrong.
Yeah, They first back Fred Nile, and then the ON person. Neither of these seem a great choice.
I can’t believe Fred Nile is still alive!
The power of prayer. It cannot be denied. Praise the Lord.
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:Yeah, They first back Fred Nile, and then the ON person. Neither of these seem a great choice.
I can’t believe Fred Nile is still alive!
The power of prayer. It cannot be denied. Praise the Lord.
Maybe the good Lord is not so keen on having Fred join him.
(to paraphrase Yes Prime Minister)
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:I can’t believe Fred Nile is still alive!
The power of prayer. It cannot be denied. Praise the Lord.
Maybe the good Lord is not so keen on having Fred join him.
(to paraphrase Yes Prime Minister)
:)
I remember that episode. Such a great show.
me and the larry had some play, then a walk saw couple cats, he was keen for some latenight fun, standing on back legs end of the lead, few yaps
kettle’s boiling
and coffee landed
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:The power of prayer. It cannot be denied. Praise the Lord.
Maybe the good Lord is not so keen on having Fred join him.
(to paraphrase Yes Prime Minister)
:)
I remember that episode. Such a great show.
I approve.
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:Maybe the good Lord is not so keen on having Fred join him.
(to paraphrase Yes Prime Minister)
:)
I remember that episode. Such a great show.
I approve.
Damn. I didn’t mean to let slip that I find something funny :)
sibeen said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said::)
I remember that episode. Such a great show.
I approve.
Damn. I didn’t mean to let slip that I find something funny :)
Pretty soon you’ll be enjoying life
dv said:
sibeen said:
Witty Rejoinder said:I approve.
Damn. I didn’t mean to let slip that I find something funny :)
Pretty soon you’ll be enjoying life
what could possibly better than this?
Arts said:
dv said:
sibeen said:Damn. I didn’t mean to let slip that I find something funny :)
Pretty soon you’ll be enjoying life
what could possibly better than this?
*be
Arts said:
Arts said:
dv said:Pretty soon you’ll be enjoying life
what could possibly better than this?
*be
corrupt democracy that achieves One Nation, it’s better than everything
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:I can’t believe Fred Nile is still alive!
The power of prayer. It cannot be denied. Praise the Lord.
Maybe the good Lord is not so keen on having Fred join him.
(to paraphrase Yes Prime Minister)
Only the good die young?
Good morning. Currently 7.6°C heading for 19.
Relative Humidity 97%, wind at E 22kmh.
Back to see the doctor at 8AM.
roughbarked said:
Good morning. Currently 7.6°C heading for 19.Relative Humidity 97%, wind at E 22kmh.
Back to see the doctor at 8AM.
Hmm, well that was weird. Try this.
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 3 degrees and starting to get light. Our forecast is for a “mostly sunny” 15 today. Friend is coming for breakfast here this morning. I need to get dressed.
Mornin’.
Mr Mutant is getting the child ready for school today as I can barely walk. There’s some decent swelling in my knee today. Every time I moved last night I had a shot of pain throughout my knee. Yee har!
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 3 degrees and starting to get light. Our forecast is for a “mostly sunny” 15 today. Friend is coming for breakfast here this morning. I need to get dressed.
“But that really started playing on my mind — in good conscience, could I continue to be taking people’s licences off them in those circumstances?”
Under NSW laws people who are caught drink driving or driving with drugs in their system lose their licence for at least three months on a first offence. Subsequent offences start at six months.
But Mr Heilpern says with drugs such as cannabis there’s not such a clear link between a positive test and adverse driving, given minute levels of the drug can be detected.
“An enormous number, the vast majority of people who are brought before the courts on this charge, are not affected ,” he says.
“It’s a historical or relatively benign impact on their driving ability, days, or even weeks after their use.”
Police officers testing drivers for cannabis near Nimbin
NSW’s transport department says people who’ve used illegal drugs should be conservative when deciding to resume driving.(ABC North Coast: Gemma Sapwell)
Mr Heilpern says he doesn’t see evidence the laws are working.
“When they introduced random breath testing, the road toll decreased massively. When they introduced seatbelt laws, there was a reduction in the road toll,” he says.
“I have seen nothing to show that there is any reduction in the road toll as a result of the thousands and thousands of people who are appearing before courts for historic use of cannabis.” https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-18/drug-driving-laws-cannabis-nsw-unfair-magistrate-david-heilpern/12361312
roughbarked said:
“But that really started playing on my mind — in good conscience, could I continue to be taking people’s licences off them in those circumstances?”Under NSW laws people who are caught drink driving or driving with drugs in their system lose their licence for at least three months on a first offence. Subsequent offences start at six months.
But Mr Heilpern says with drugs such as cannabis there’s not such a clear link between a positive test and adverse driving, given minute levels of the drug can be detected.
“An enormous number, the vast majority of people who are brought before the courts on this charge, are not affected ,” he says.
“It’s a historical or relatively benign impact on their driving ability, days, or even weeks after their use.”
Police officers testing drivers for cannabis near Nimbin
NSW’s transport department says people who’ve used illegal drugs should be conservative when deciding to resume driving.(ABC North Coast: Gemma Sapwell)Mr Heilpern says he doesn’t see evidence the laws are working.
“When they introduced random breath testing, the road toll decreased massively. When they introduced seatbelt laws, there was a reduction in the road toll,” he says.
“I have seen nothing to show that there is any reduction in the road toll as a result of the thousands and thousands of people who are appearing before courts for historic use of cannabis.” https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-18/drug-driving-laws-cannabis-nsw-unfair-magistrate-david-heilpern/12361312
Divine Angel said:
Mornin’.Mr Mutant is getting the child ready for school today as I can barely walk. There’s some decent swelling in my knee today. Every time I moved last night I had a shot of pain throughout my knee. Yee har!
Why did the knee-swelling occur?
wet night.

JudgeMental said:
wet night.
:)
And more ore.
Michael V said:
JudgeMental said:
wet night.
:)
And more ore.
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Mornin’.Mr Mutant is getting the child ready for school today as I can barely walk. There’s some decent swelling in my knee today. Every time I moved last night I had a shot of pain throughout my knee. Yee har!
Why did the knee-swelling occur?
Banged it pretty hard on the corner of the coffee table. So hard that instead of immediate pain, I felt cold. When I got up, I was light-headed from the pain.
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Mornin’.Mr Mutant is getting the child ready for school today as I can barely walk. There’s some decent swelling in my knee today. Every time I moved last night I had a shot of pain throughout my knee. Yee har!
Why did the knee-swelling occur?
Banged it pretty hard on the corner of the coffee table. So hard that instead of immediate pain, I felt cold. When I got up, I was light-headed from the pain.
:(
Bugger. Hope it fixes itself quickly.
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:Why did the knee-swelling occur?
Banged it pretty hard on the corner of the coffee table. So hard that instead of immediate pain, I felt cold. When I got up, I was light-headed from the pain.
:(
Bugger. Hope it fixes itself quickly.
She’ll be right, mate.
Mini Me grazed her knee yesterday at the park. This morning she’s limping more than I am lol. Little drama queen.
I’ve managed to get myself dressed and make some breakfast. Also put on my old knee brace. Mum bought it for me years ago. It’s got magnets in it because that was the thing back then, but it’s also a really good brace. It’s sturdy, and has a gel in it so you can pop it in the fridge and have some cool relief on the knee.
Divine Angel said:
I’ve managed to get myself dressed and make some breakfast. Also put on my old knee brace. Mum bought it for me years ago. It’s got magnets in it because that was the thing back then, but it’s also a really good brace. It’s sturdy, and has a gel in it so you can pop it in the fridge and have some cool relief on the knee.
Cool!
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Mornin’.Mr Mutant is getting the child ready for school today as I can barely walk. There’s some decent swelling in my knee today. Every time I moved last night I had a shot of pain throughout my knee. Yee har!
Why did the knee-swelling occur?
Banged it pretty hard on the corner of the coffee table. So hard that instead of immediate pain, I felt cold. When I got up, I was light-headed from the pain.
I did that once, went all shivery, cracked the patella.
roughbarked said:
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:Why did the knee-swelling occur?
Banged it pretty hard on the corner of the coffee table. So hard that instead of immediate pain, I felt cold. When I got up, I was light-headed from the pain.
I did that once, went all shivery, cracked the patella.
I don’t recall ever feeling cold when I’ve hurt myself before. I definitely hit below the patella, on the tendon. Although the patella is sore, I’ve just poked it, but I assume that’s from the tendon.
Divine Angel said:
Mornin’.Mr Mutant is getting the child ready for school today as I can barely walk. There’s some decent swelling in my knee today. Every time I moved last night I had a shot of pain throughout my knee. Yee har!
Total sensory deprivation and backup drugs.
Divine Angel said:
roughbarked said:
Divine Angel said:Banged it pretty hard on the corner of the coffee table. So hard that instead of immediate pain, I felt cold. When I got up, I was light-headed from the pain.
I did that once, went all shivery, cracked the patella.
I don’t recall ever feeling cold when I’ve hurt myself before. I definitely hit below the patella, on the tendon. Although the patella is sore, I’ve just poked it, but I assume that’s from the tendon.
There’s bursas above, on, below, and next to the knee. From your description you might have damaged one, or two. Get thee to a GP.
Hey Bill – You might be interested in this:
The ANCAP RESCUE app brings together Rescue Sheets for a broad range of makes and models into one accessible platform. Each sheet provides first responders with a colour-coded illustration highlighting the location of potentially dangerous features such high-voltage batteries, fuel tanks, airbag inflators and seatbelt pretensioners.
https://www.ancap.com.au/apps
NCAP Euro have just released European versions of the App that have a lot more data in them:
Android – https://play.google.com/store/apps/details…
Apple – https://apps.apple.com/us/app/euro-rescue/id1516807765?ls=1
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
roughbarked said:I did that once, went all shivery, cracked the patella.
I don’t recall ever feeling cold when I’ve hurt myself before. I definitely hit below the patella, on the tendon. Although the patella is sore, I’ve just poked it, but I assume that’s from the tendon.
There’s bursas above, on, below, and next to the knee. From your description you might have damaged one, or two. Get thee to a GP.
Yes.
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
roughbarked said:I did that once, went all shivery, cracked the patella.
I don’t recall ever feeling cold when I’ve hurt myself before. I definitely hit below the patella, on the tendon. Although the patella is sore, I’ve just poked it, but I assume that’s from the tendon.
There’s bursas above, on, below, and next to the knee. From your description you might have damaged one, or two. Get thee to a GP.
My motto is, if you’re gonna do something, do it properly. How bad is it if I have damaged a couple of bursa?
The GP is only doing phone calls right now. Difficult to assess damage over the phone, so he’ll likely fax over a referral for a MRI, I suppose.
Divine Angel said:
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:I don’t recall ever feeling cold when I’ve hurt myself before. I definitely hit below the patella, on the tendon. Although the patella is sore, I’ve just poked it, but I assume that’s from the tendon.
There’s bursas above, on, below, and next to the knee. From your description you might have damaged one, or two. Get thee to a GP.
My motto is, if you’re gonna do something, do it properly. How bad is it if I have damaged a couple of bursa?
The GP is only doing phone calls right now. Difficult to assess damage over the phone, so he’ll likely fax over a referral for a MRI, I suppose.
I can’t tell you how much I tried to get everyone to send you the required drugs last night…
Arts said:
Divine Angel said:
Rule 303 said:There’s bursas above, on, below, and next to the knee. From your description you might have damaged one, or two. Get thee to a GP.
My motto is, if you’re gonna do something, do it properly. How bad is it if I have damaged a couple of bursa?
The GP is only doing phone calls right now. Difficult to assess damage over the phone, so he’ll likely fax over a referral for a MRI, I suppose.
I can’t tell you how much I tried to get everyone to send you the required drugs last night…
damn that technology has evolved fast, they can now do MRI assessments by telephone
Divine Angel said:
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:I don’t recall ever feeling cold when I’ve hurt myself before. I definitely hit below the patella, on the tendon. Although the patella is sore, I’ve just poked it, but I assume that’s from the tendon.
There’s bursas above, on, below, and next to the knee. From your description you might have damaged one, or two. Get thee to a GP.
My motto is, if you’re gonna do something, do it properly. How bad is it if I have damaged a couple of bursa?
The GP is only doing phone calls right now. Difficult to assess damage over the phone, so he’ll likely fax over a referral for a MRI, I suppose.
Could take many months to heal if ever.
roughbarked said:
Divine Angel said:
Rule 303 said:There’s bursas above, on, below, and next to the knee. From your description you might have damaged one, or two. Get thee to a GP.
My motto is, if you’re gonna do something, do it properly. How bad is it if I have damaged a couple of bursa?
The GP is only doing phone calls right now. Difficult to assess damage over the phone, so he’ll likely fax over a referral for a MRI, I suppose.
Could take many months to heal if ever.
probably just amputate
Arts said:
Divine Angel said:
Rule 303 said:There’s bursas above, on, below, and next to the knee. From your description you might have damaged one, or two. Get thee to a GP.
My motto is, if you’re gonna do something, do it properly. How bad is it if I have damaged a couple of bursa?
The GP is only doing phone calls right now. Difficult to assess damage over the phone, so he’ll likely fax over a referral for a MRI, I suppose.
I can’t tell you how much I tried to get everyone to send you the required drugs last night…
Drugs just aren’t good enough for this type of thing. Cortisone injections are also hit and miss. Even when guided with ultrasound.
Meanwhile, I managed to complete the first draft of my second novel on exactly 76,000 words.
Divine Angel said:
Meanwhile, I managed to complete the first draft of my second novel on exactly 76,000 words.
that’s why you should have more than one child.
Divine Angel said:
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:I don’t recall ever feeling cold when I’ve hurt myself before. I definitely hit below the patella, on the tendon. Although the patella is sore, I’ve just poked it, but I assume that’s from the tendon.
There’s bursas above, on, below, and next to the knee. From your description you might have damaged one, or two. Get thee to a GP.
My motto is, if you’re gonna do something, do it properly. How bad is it if I have damaged a couple of bursa?
The GP is only doing phone calls right now. Difficult to assess damage over the phone, so he’ll likely fax over a referral for a MRI, I suppose.
They stay swollen and hurt when you move. Might heal over a few months, night not.
Who was it who told me about The Trauma Cleaner book when I was googling crime scene cleaners? Anyhoo, the author of the book is doing a talk online next Monday night, so I’ve booked in for that.
Divine Angel said:
Who was it who told me about The Trauma Cleaner book when I was googling crime scene cleaners? Anyhoo, the author of the book is doing a talk online next Monday night, so I’ve booked in for that.
what time Monday?
Divine Angel said:
Meanwhile, I managed to complete the first draft of my second novel on exactly 76,000 words.
Can you reveal the gist of this one yet?
Arts said:
Divine Angel said:
Who was it who told me about The Trauma Cleaner book when I was googling crime scene cleaners? Anyhoo, the author of the book is doing a talk online next Monday night, so I’ve booked in for that.
what time Monday?
7-8pm EST. Want me to tag you in the link? Bookings are essential.
Divine Angel said:
Arts said:
Divine Angel said:
Who was it who told me about The Trauma Cleaner book when I was googling crime scene cleaners? Anyhoo, the author of the book is doing a talk online next Monday night, so I’ve booked in for that.
what time Monday?
7-8pm EST. Want me to tag you in the link? Bookings are essential.
Is it Harvey Keitel? Because that would be awesome!
Witty Rejoinder said:
Divine Angel said:
Meanwhile, I managed to complete the first draft of my second novel on exactly 76,000 words.
Can you reveal the gist of this one yet?
When their friend Jeri dies, sisters Kate and Chyler Harris find themselves entangled in a web of mysteries. What secrets does their father hold? Who can the sisters trust? And what really happened to Jeri?
Divine Angel said:
Arts said:
Divine Angel said:
Who was it who told me about The Trauma Cleaner book when I was googling crime scene cleaners? Anyhoo, the author of the book is doing a talk online next Monday night, so I’ve booked in for that.
what time Monday?
7-8pm EST. Want me to tag you in the link? Bookings are essential.
Hmm, it won’t let me rage you but here’s the link anyway.
https://library.gleneira.vic.gov.au/whats-on/events-calendar/the-trauma-cleaner-sandra-pankhurst-in-conversation-with-claire-halliday
Divine Angel said:
Divine Angel said:
Arts said:what time Monday?
7-8pm EST. Want me to tag you in the link? Bookings are essential.
Hmm, it won’t let me rage you but here’s the link anyway.
https://library.gleneira.vic.gov.au/whats-on/events-calendar/the-trauma-cleaner-sandra-pankhurst-in-conversation-with-claire-halliday
*tag, not rage.
Divine Angel said:
Who was it who told me about The Trauma Cleaner book when I was googling crime scene cleaners? Anyhoo, the author of the book is doing a talk online next Monday night, so I’ve booked in for that.
I don’t want to give away the ending but…
..rotten potatoes make the worst smell
Divine Angel said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Divine Angel said:
Meanwhile, I managed to complete the first draft of my second novel on exactly 76,000 words.
Can you reveal the gist of this one yet?
When their friend Jeri dies, sisters Kate and Chyler Harris find themselves entangled in a web of mysteries. What secrets does their father hold? Who can the sisters trust? And what really happened to Jeri?
Cool cool.
Divine Angel said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Divine Angel said:
Meanwhile, I managed to complete the first draft of my second novel on exactly 76,000 words.
Can you reveal the gist of this one yet?
When their friend Jeri dies, sisters Kate and Chyler Harris find themselves entangled in a web of mysteries. What secrets does their father hold? Who can the sisters trust? And what really happened to Jeri?
How do you come up with names? Never heard Chyler nor seen Jeri before… Is Jeri a girl or boy name?
Divine Angel said:
Arts said:
Divine Angel said:
Who was it who told me about The Trauma Cleaner book when I was googling crime scene cleaners? Anyhoo, the author of the book is doing a talk online next Monday night, so I’ve booked in for that.
what time Monday?
7-8pm EST. Want me to tag you in the link? Bookings are essential.
five pm here… I should be back by then… would love to. thanks.
Divine Angel said:
Divine Angel said:
Arts said:what time Monday?
7-8pm EST. Want me to tag you in the link? Bookings are essential.
Hmm, it won’t let me rage you but here’s the link anyway.
https://library.gleneira.vic.gov.au/whats-on/events-calendar/the-trauma-cleaner-sandra-pankhurst-in-conversation-with-claire-halliday
thanks done. :)
furious said:
Divine Angel said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Can you reveal the gist of this one yet?
When their friend Jeri dies, sisters Kate and Chyler Harris find themselves entangled in a web of mysteries. What secrets does their father hold? Who can the sisters trust? And what really happened to Jeri?
How do you come up with names? Never heard Chyler nor seen Jeri before… Is Jeri a girl or boy name?
Jeri Ryan is an actress in Star Trek Voyager. Chyler Leigh is also an actress, she was in Grey’s Anatomy (pronounced Kyler). Kate Harris is actually the name of a school mum I see every day lol.
I like unusual names.
The premise of the novel, a girl named Jeri found dead at school, has been swimming around my head for years, but whenever I sat down to write it, it just never came together.
Morning Pilgrims, what news?
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning Pilgrims, what news?
It’s nearly tax time. Anticipating large return.
dv said:
Coalition MPs have helped install One Nation MP Rod Roberts to the coveted position of assistant president of the Legislative Council, entitling him to an extra $57,525 per year on top of his base salary of $169,192.Mr Roberts secured the position by one vote after two rounds of voting, despite the Liberals initially backing Christian Democrat Fred Nile.
Mr Roberts, a former NSW policeman from Goulburn, was promoted after he told the upper house on Tuesday of his planned motion around Aboriginal deaths in custody, urging the chamber to note “the truth matters”.
“n NSW between 1995 and 2019, there were 923 deaths is custody, including 112 deaths of Aboriginal persons,” the motion says.
“Only 12 per cent of deaths in custody between 1995 and 2019 are attributed to Aboriginal persons.”
The motion passed unanimously on Wednesday after it was amended by Labor to include a reference to the over-representation of Aboriginal people in custody as “a national tragedy”, noting that “29 per cent of the total prison population are Aboriginal despite being only three per cent of the state’s population.”
Mr Roberts was elected assistant president in a secret ballot of upper house MPs, beating Labor’s Courtney Houssos by 21 votes to 20. The vote began as a three-way contest, with the government nominating Reverend Nile.
In response to Mr Roberts’ appointment, Labor upper house MP Rose Jackson tweeted: “This is a party that has bigotry and racism at its core. And now they have a senior position in our Parliament.”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/one-nation-mp-secures-role-after-planned-motion-around-aboriginal-deaths-in-custody-20200617-p553e1.html
He’s 85. What is he still doing in parliament. I thought he was dead.
Rule 303 said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning Pilgrims, what news?
It’s nearly tax time. Anticipating large return.
Well don’t blow it on super models and cocaine like you did last year.
sibeen said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said::)
I remember that episode. Such a great show.
I approve.
Damn. I didn’t mean to let slip that I find something funny :)
You didn’t say it was funny. You said it was great. But it was a near thing.
(Yes, I’m catching up. I’ll be up to the minute soon)
Peak Warming Man said:
Rule 303 said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning Pilgrims, what news?
It’s nearly tax time. Anticipating large return.
Well don’t blow it on super models and cocaine like you did last year.
I spend most of my money on beer and loose women – The rest of it is just wasted.
Rule 303 said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Rule 303 said:It’s nearly tax time. Anticipating large return.
Well don’t blow it on super models and cocaine like you did last year.
I spend most of my money on beer and loose women – The rest of it is just wasted.
I dunno. I don’t seem to meet any loose women.
roughbarked said:
Rule 303 said:
Peak Warming Man said:Well don’t blow it on super models and cocaine like you did last year.
I spend most of my money on beer and loose women – The rest of it is just wasted.
I dunno. I don’t seem to meet any loose women.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-18/lnp-president-dave-hutchinson-peter-dutton/12368470
When the Victorian government stuff broke the other day and we heard it on the car radio and the Victorian opposition leader – whose name I never manage to remember – was commenting about how terrible it was…Mr buffy and I looked at each other and said “be very, very careful what you say. There is something going on with your lot in Queensland”
Just read a real shitty joke.
Why does the Swedish navy have barcodes on their ships?
dv said:
Just read a real shitty joke.I say I say why does the Swedish navy have barcodes on their ships?
I don’t know, why does the Swedish navy have barcodes on their ships?
roughbarked said:
Rule 303 said:
Peak Warming Man said:Well don’t blow it on super models and cocaine like you did last year.
I spend most of my money on beer and loose women – The rest of it is just wasted.
I dunno. I don’t seem to meet any loose women.
We get a few at the hospital.
Usually the result of various limb dislocations. They never seem to be keen on socialising.
dv said:
Just read a real shitty joke.Why does the Swedish navy have barcodes on their ships?
pantomime voice
I don’t know, why does the Swedish navy have barcodes on their ships?
dv said:
Just read a real shitty joke.Why does the Swedish navy have barcodes on their ships?
Something something something rutabaga.
dv said:
Just read a real shitty joke.Why does the Swedish navy have barcodes on their ships?
Tamb said:
dv said:
Just read a real shitty joke.Why does the Swedish navy have barcodes on their ships?
Be a better joke if it was the Finnish navy,
Nah, they’re both scandanavian.
dv said:
Just read a real shitty joke.Why does the Swedish navy have barcodes on their ships?
Automatic payment of fthe toll when the pass through the strait between Denmark and Norway.
Rule is on to it.
Question: is onto a real word?
dv said:
Rule is on to it.Question: is onto a real word?
dv said:
Rule is on to it.Question: is onto a real word?
It’s a real word alright.
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
Rule is on to it.Question: is onto a real word?
It’s a real word alright.
Cheers. I originally typed onto then chickened out.
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
Rule is on to it.Question: is onto a real word?
It’s a real word alright.
Homophone.
dv said:
Rule is on to it.Question: is onto a real word?
Yes. it is an awecellent word.
I didn’t know Blundstones made gumboots. I stopped buying their elastic sided work boots when they offshored them over 10 years ago. I wear Rossi boots.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-18/blundstone-boots-150-year-anniversary/12366284
buffy said:
I didn’t know Blundstones made gumboots. I stopped buying their elastic sided work boots when they offshored them over 10 years ago. I wear Rossi boots.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-18/blundstone-boots-150-year-anniversary/12366284
wonder what rescue RSCU208 ‘copter was doing at Forbes?
dv said:
Rule is on to it.Question: is onto a real word?
In mathematics, a function f from a set X to a set Y is surjective, or onto, if, for every element y in the codomain Y of f there exists at least one element x in the domain X of f, such that f(x) = y. An onto mapping is the converse of a one-to-one mapping.
back from the farm, windy, sandhills starting to move, some grit in my eyes
sky out there just now, old timers be forecasting a drought looking at that
looking at rain forecast 80% chance 1-5mm for friday, ~same for saturday
coffee landed
dv said:
Rule is on to it.Question: is onto a real word?
As in the phrase “Moving onto the …”?
Sure. Why wouldn’t it be?
transition said:
back from the farm, windy, sandhills starting to move, some grit in my eyessky out there just now, old timers be forecasting a drought looking at that
looking at rain forecast 80% chance 1-5mm for friday, ~same for saturday
coffee landed
transition said:
looking at rain forecast 80% chance 1-5mm for friday, ~same for saturday
coffee landed
It was good and wet here yesterday, and raining on and off today. Traditional winter cold front. You should get it in the next day or two.
party_pants said:
transition said:looking at rain forecast 80% chance 1-5mm for friday, ~same for saturday
coffee landed
It was good and wet here yesterday, and raining on and off today. Traditional winter cold front. You should get it in the next day or two.
hope so, not looking entirely pretty out there
btm said:
dv said:
Rule is on to it.Question: is onto a real word?
In mathematics, a function f from a set X to a set Y is surjective, or onto, if, for every element y in the codomain Y of f there exists at least one element x in the domain X of f, such that f(x) = y. An onto mapping is the converse of a one-to-one mapping.
That’s shittier than dv’s effort
Anyway the answer is “When the ships come back to port they Scandinavian”
dv said:
Anyway the answer is “When the ships come back to port they Scandinavian”
Straight to the Big Book of Dad Jokes.
dv said:
Anyway the answer is “When the ships come back to port they Scandinavian”
You’re funny but not funny haha.
dv said:
Anyway the answer is “When the ships come back to port they Scandinavian”
I think plane mating season must be getting close.
Rule 303 said:
I think plane mating season must be getting close.
Somebody will get shouted at very loudly as a result of this mishap.
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:
Anyway the answer is “When the ships come back to port they Scandinavian”
You’re funny but not funny haha.
How can you recognise a submarine from Helsinki?
When it surfaces, you count the Finns on its back.
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:
I think plane mating season must be getting close.
Somebody will get shouted at very loudly as a result of this mishap.
I wonder if Louis asked for permission before moving in…
dv said:
Anyway the answer is “When the ships come back to port they Scandinavian”
you should work on your timing.
captain_spalding said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:
Anyway the answer is “When the ships come back to port they Scandinavian”
You’re funny but not funny haha.
How can you recognise a submarine from Helsinki?
When it surfaces, you count the Finns on its back.
Rule 303 said:
I think plane mating season must be getting close.
nature is healing.
I think I just mansplained statistics to a man….
33m ago 12:54
Indigenous communities disproportionately impacted by bushfires
Calla Wahlquist
Calla Wahlquist
Ninety-six thousand Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples were directly impacted by the 2019-2020 bushfires, the royal commission into national natural disaster resilience has heard.
The figures come from research done by a group that included Bhiamie Eckford-Williamson, an Euahlayi man and academic from Australian National University. He said the fires affected 29% of the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander populations of the Indigenous populations in the states and territories in which they burned, and 12% of the total Indigenous population in Australia.
The Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander population in fire-affected areas was also twice as high as the national average, or 4.6% of the population compared to 2.3%. And 9% of all children in fire-affected areas – totalling 35,000 kids, 12,000 of whom were aged four or younger – were Indigenous.
Eckford-Williamson:
“It is clear that Indigenous people have been disproportionately impacted by the Black Summer bushfires and I believe it’s very important to engage with those statistics.”
He said that despite those disproportionate statistics, there had been an “extraordinary absence of Aboriginal people” in post-fire commissions and inquiries.
Associate Professor Michael-Shawn Fletcher, an Aboriginal man and palaeoecologist from the University of Melbourne, said that researchers have been studying the geological record after the 2019-2020 fires to discover if there has been any equivalent bushfire event, stretching from Queensland to Victoria. According to the geological record, there has not.
“In that sense these fires are unprecedented in the geological record.”
Eckford-Williamson and Fletcher are among 15 witnesses talking to the royal commission today about cultural burning.
Also giving evidence is Vanessa Cavanagh, a Bundjalung and Wonnarua woman doing a PhD in Aboriginal women and cultural burning in New South Wales. Cavanagh is a former parks and wildlife firefighter, one of those who got lowered via helicopter into hot zones, and her own property was destroyed in the Gospers Mountain fire. She says they need a system that “supports us as Boriginal women and doesn’t expect us to moult into a western framework or methodology”.
Meanwhile..
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-09/bushfire-donations-red-cross-unspent-money/12332604
Arts said:
I think I just mansplained statistics to a man….
It’s the only language we understand.
captain_spalding said:
Arts said:
I think I just mansplained statistics to a man….It’s the only language we understand.
can you please make sure you all know it, because this guy didn’t seem to get the memo.
actually I take it back, I didn’t mansplain it… I explained it.
Rule 303 said:
I think plane mating season must be getting close.
Luckily, that’ll buff out.

Politician desperately needing attention.
https://www.pedestrian.tv/news/bob-katter-grim-reaper/
sarahs mum said:
![]()
Politician desperately needing attention.
https://www.pedestrian.tv/news/bob-katter-grim-reaper/
Damn those crocs in PH swamp
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:
I think plane mating season must be getting close.
Somebody will get shouted at very loudly as a result of this mishap.
Oh well they weren’t using them anyway.
sarahs mum said:
![]()
Politician desperately needing attention.
https://www.pedestrian.tv/news/bob-katter-grim-reaper/
Quite Odd.
roughbarked said:
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:
I think plane mating season must be getting close.
Somebody will get shouted at very loudly as a result of this mishap.
Oh well they weren’t using them anyway.
They may have been getting some taxiiing practice.
More practice needed.
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
![]()
Politician desperately needing attention.
https://www.pedestrian.tv/news/bob-katter-grim-reaper/
Quite Odd.
Wouldn’t his sixgun work better?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-18/act-police-mistakenly-arrest-man-with-disability-advocates-say/12366022
:(
Kii just brought this to my attention. For some reason even though we shared 40 friends this did not pop up on my feed at a time where it would be noticed.
>>
Dave Challis
to
Richard Challis
3 June at 14:20 ·
It is with great sadness that I must announce that, after a courageous fight with illness, dad has passed away. He didn’t linger but passed peacefully early on the second of June. While his passing will bring us sadness his memory will bring us comfort and his time with us will be marked by many as the most exciting, interesting, informative, challenging and joyfully of their lives. We are all a little better for having known you Forever in our thoughts. Rest In Peace Dad.
Funeral arrangements TBA
Michael V said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-18/act-police-mistakenly-arrest-man-with-disability-advocates-say/12366022:(
Usually, people who are drunk enough to be unsteady, actually reek of alcohol.
Michael V said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-18/act-police-mistakenly-arrest-man-with-disability-advocates-say/12366022:(
He’s lucky this isn’t America.
sarahs mum said:
Kii just brought this to my attention. For some reason even though we shared 40 friends this did not pop up on my feed at a time where it would be noticed.>>
Dave Challis
to Richard Challis
3 June at 14:20 ·It is with great sadness that I must announce that, after a courageous fight with illness, dad has passed away. He didn’t linger but passed peacefully early on the second of June. While his passing will bring us sadness his memory will bring us comfort and his time with us will be marked by many as the most exciting, interesting, informative, challenging and joyfully of their lives. We are all a little better for having known you Forever in our thoughts. Rest In Peace Dad.
Funeral arrangements TBA
Oh. Bummer :(
sarahs mum said:
Kii just brought this to my attention. For some reason even though we shared 40 friends this did not pop up on my feed at a time where it would be noticed.>>
Dave Challis
to Richard Challis
3 June at 14:20 ·It is with great sadness that I must announce that, after a courageous fight with illness, dad has passed away. He didn’t linger but passed peacefully early on the second of June. While his passing will bring us sadness his memory will bring us comfort and his time with us will be marked by many as the most exciting, interesting, informative, challenging and joyfully of their lives. We are all a little better for having known you Forever in our thoughts. Rest In Peace Dad.
Funeral arrangements TBA
Bugger.
Vale Richard C.
:-(
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
Kii just brought this to my attention. For some reason even though we shared 40 friends this did not pop up on my feed at a time where it would be noticed.>>
Dave Challis
to Richard Challis
3 June at 14:20 ·It is with great sadness that I must announce that, after a courageous fight with illness, dad has passed away. He didn’t linger but passed peacefully early on the second of June. While his passing will bring us sadness his memory will bring us comfort and his time with us will be marked by many as the most exciting, interesting, informative, challenging and joyfully of their lives. We are all a little better for having known you Forever in our thoughts. Rest In Peace Dad.
Funeral arrangements TBA
Oh. Bummer :(
And there was an online funeral.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-18/act-police-mistakenly-arrest-man-with-disability-advocates-say/12366022:(
Usually, people who are drunk enough to be unsteady, actually reek of alcohol.
I mean, people with disabilities still drinks nd can be intoxicated.. but there is no word about any tests performed or anything to confirm intoxication… so on the face of it this is poor work by the police.
sarahs mum said:
Kii just brought this to my attention. For some reason even though we shared 40 friends this did not pop up on my feed at a time where it would be noticed.>>
Dave Challis
to Richard Challis
3 June at 14:20 ·It is with great sadness that I must announce that, after a courageous fight with illness, dad has passed away. He didn’t linger but passed peacefully early on the second of June. While his passing will bring us sadness his memory will bring us comfort and his time with us will be marked by many as the most exciting, interesting, informative, challenging and joyfully of their lives. We are all a little better for having known you Forever in our thoughts. Rest In Peace Dad.
Funeral arrangements TBA
oh
Arts said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-18/act-police-mistakenly-arrest-man-with-disability-advocates-say/12366022:(
Usually, people who are drunk enough to be unsteady, actually reek of alcohol.
I mean, people with disabilities still drinks nd can be intoxicated.. but there is no word about any tests performed or anything to confirm intoxication… so on the face of it this is poor work by the police.
True
Rule 303 said:
sarahs mum said:
Kii just brought this to my attention. For some reason even though we shared 40 friends this did not pop up on my feed at a time where it would be noticed.>>
Dave Challis
to Richard Challis
3 June at 14:20 ·It is with great sadness that I must announce that, after a courageous fight with illness, dad has passed away. He didn’t linger but passed peacefully early on the second of June. While his passing will bring us sadness his memory will bring us comfort and his time with us will be marked by many as the most exciting, interesting, informative, challenging and joyfully of their lives. We are all a little better for having known you Forever in our thoughts. Rest In Peace Dad.
Funeral arrangements TBA
Bugger.
Vale Richard C.
:-(
:-(
sarahs mum said:
Kii just brought this to my attention. For some reason even though we shared 40 friends this did not pop up on my feed at a time where it would be noticed.>>
Dave Challis
to Richard Challis
3 June at 14:20 ·It is with great sadness that I must announce that, after a courageous fight with illness, dad has passed away. He didn’t linger but passed peacefully early on the second of June. While his passing will bring us sadness his memory will bring us comfort and his time with us will be marked by many as the most exciting, interesting, informative, challenging and joyfully of their lives. We are all a little better for having known you Forever in our thoughts. Rest In Peace Dad.
Funeral arrangements TBA
Bugger he was a very knowledgeable chap and friends with Stumpy.
From memory he got in the last post on the SSSF forum on the day that it shut down, a day that will live in infamy.
roughbarked said:
Rule 303 said:
sarahs mum said:
Kii just brought this to my attention. For some reason even though we shared 40 friends this did not pop up on my feed at a time where it would be noticed.>>
Dave Challis
to Richard Challis
3 June at 14:20 ·It is with great sadness that I must announce that, after a courageous fight with illness, dad has passed away. He didn’t linger but passed peacefully early on the second of June. While his passing will bring us sadness his memory will bring us comfort and his time with us will be marked by many as the most exciting, interesting, informative, challenging and joyfully of their lives. We are all a little better for having known you Forever in our thoughts. Rest In Peace Dad.
Funeral arrangements TBA
Bugger.
Vale Richard C.
:-(
:-(
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
Kii just brought this to my attention. For some reason even though we shared 40 friends this did not pop up on my feed at a time where it would be noticed.>>
Dave Challis
to Richard Challis
3 June at 14:20 ·It is with great sadness that I must announce that, after a courageous fight with illness, dad has passed away. He didn’t linger but passed peacefully early on the second of June. While his passing will bring us sadness his memory will bring us comfort and his time with us will be marked by many as the most exciting, interesting, informative, challenging and joyfully of their lives. We are all a little better for having known you Forever in our thoughts. Rest In Peace Dad.
Funeral arrangements TBA
Bugger he was a very knowledgeable chap and friends with Stumpy.
From memory he got in the last post on the SSSF forum on the day that it shut down, a day that will live in infamy.
Yes. He did. He was always a gentleman.
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
Rule 303 said:Bugger.
Vale Richard C.
:-(
:-(
Was he on this forum or SSSF?
Both.
Rule 303 said:
sarahs mum said:
Kii just brought this to my attention. For some reason even though we shared 40 friends this did not pop up on my feed at a time where it would be noticed.>>
Dave Challis
to Richard Challis
3 June at 14:20 ·It is with great sadness that I must announce that, after a courageous fight with illness, dad has passed away. He didn’t linger but passed peacefully early on the second of June. While his passing will bring us sadness his memory will bring us comfort and his time with us will be marked by many as the most exciting, interesting, informative, challenging and joyfully of their lives. We are all a little better for having known you Forever in our thoughts. Rest In Peace Dad.
Funeral arrangements TBA
Bugger.
Vale Richard C.
:-(
Oh, OK. I was wondering. Ta.
Rule 303 said:
Tamb said:
roughbarked said::-(
Was he on this forum or SSSF?Both.
Relax people, they got him.
I think he was an aircraft crash investigator at one time.
Enthusiasm
https://i.imgur.com/AQGafVB.mp4
125-160 meters
Description. The eucalyptus tree is a large, fast-growing evergreen that is native to Australia and Tasmania. The tree can grow to 375-480 feet (125-160 meters).
I googled “height of gum trees” and got the above.
First thing that came to mind was does Tasmania have a navy, you would think so but probably not a standing army.
Peak Warming Man said:
I think he was an aircraft crash investigator at one time.
Air Traffic Controller mostly, I think. Might have been a prang investigator as well….
Peak Warming Man said:
125-160 meters
Description. The eucalyptus tree is a large, fast-growing evergreen that is native to Australia and Tasmania. The tree can grow to 375-480 feet (125-160 meters).I googled “height of gum trees” and got the above.
First thing that came to mind was does Tasmania have a navy, you would think so but probably not a standing army.
Not sure what the latter has to do with googling the height of Eucalyptus.
roughbarked said:
Peak Warming Man said:
125-160 meters
Description. The eucalyptus tree is a large, fast-growing evergreen that is native to Australia and Tasmania. The tree can grow to 375-480 feet (125-160 meters).I googled “height of gum trees” and got the above.
First thing that came to mind was does Tasmania have a navy, you would think so but probably not a standing army.
Not sure what the latter has to do with googling the height of Eucalyptus.
Mr buffy has been listening to parliament on the car radio. He says both ScoMo and Dutton were forced to withdraw statements today.
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
Peak Warming Man said:
125-160 meters
Description. The eucalyptus tree is a large, fast-growing evergreen that is native to Australia and Tasmania. The tree can grow to 375-480 feet (125-160 meters).I googled “height of gum trees” and got the above.
First thing that came to mind was does Tasmania have a navy, you would think so but probably not a standing army.
Not sure what the latter has to do with googling the height of Eucalyptus.
No State has armed forces they are all Federal.
That too has little to do with the height of Eucalypts.
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:Not sure what the latter has to do with googling the height of Eucalyptus.
No State has armed forces they are all Federal.That too has little to do with the height of Eucalypts.
just eating last of pancakes
they’re horrible
oh look another one turned up, ready for sugar and lemon
Regular visitors.
Rule 303 said:
sarahs mum said:
Kii just brought this to my attention. For some reason even though we shared 40 friends this did not pop up on my feed at a time where it would be noticed.>>
Dave Challis
to Richard Challis
3 June at 14:20 ·It is with great sadness that I must announce that, after a courageous fight with illness, dad has passed away. He didn’t linger but passed peacefully early on the second of June. While his passing will bring us sadness his memory will bring us comfort and his time with us will be marked by many as the most exciting, interesting, informative, challenging and joyfully of their lives. We are all a little better for having known you Forever in our thoughts. Rest In Peace Dad.
Funeral arrangements TBA
Bugger.
Vale Richard C.
:-(
:(
When wood was important to navies Huon pine, celery top pine and the Norfolk island pine from over there were important.
Nowadays…Incat does use Tassie Oak for decking.
sarahs mum said:
When wood was important to navies Huon pine, celery top pine and the Norfolk island pine from over there were important.Nowadays…Incat does use Tassie Oak for decking.
But Incat mostly makes ferries and passenger ships. When it does make navy ships it is for some one else’s navy.
sarahs mum said:
When wood was important to navies Huon pine, celery top pine and the Norfolk island pine from over there were important.Nowadays…Incat does use Tassie Oak for decking.
Many call Blackwood, Acacia melanoxylon, Tassie Oak?
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:
When wood was important to navies Huon pine, celery top pine and the Norfolk island pine from over there were important.Nowadays…Incat does use Tassie Oak for decking.
Many call Blackwood, Acacia melanoxylon, Tassie Oak?
Yes to the blackwood.
Tasmanian oak
Tasmanian oak refers to the hardwood produced by three trees: Eucalyptus regnans, Eucalyptus obliqua or Eucalyptus delegatensis, when it is sourced from the Australian state of Tasmania. Despite the common name ‘oak’, none of the species are in the genus Quercus.
Reading an ad for a guitar:
“Comes with original hard case and paperwork. The sound of this guitar is literally out out of this worl…”
>stops reading<
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:
When wood was important to navies Huon pine, celery top pine and the Norfolk island pine from over there were important.Nowadays…Incat does use Tassie Oak for decking.
Many call Blackwood, Acacia melanoxylon, Tassie Oak?
Yes to the blackwood.
Tasmanian oak
Wikipedia
Tasmanian oak refers to the hardwood produced by three trees: Eucalyptus regnans, Eucalyptus obliqua or Eucalyptus delegatensis, when it is sourced from the Australian state of Tasmania. Despite the common name ‘oak’, none of the species are in the genus Quercus.
Isn’t E.regnans usually known as mountain ash?
Rule 303 said:
Reading an ad for a guitar:“Comes with original hard case and paperwork. The sound of this guitar is literally out out of this worl…”
>stops reading<
Tunes in the key of Seti?
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:Many call Blackwood, Acacia melanoxylon, Tassie Oak?
Yes to the blackwood.
Tasmanian oak
Wikipedia
Tasmanian oak refers to the hardwood produced by three trees: Eucalyptus regnans, Eucalyptus obliqua or Eucalyptus delegatensis, when it is sourced from the Australian state of Tasmania. Despite the common name ‘oak’, none of the species are in the genus Quercus.Isn’t E.regnans usually known as mountain ash?
My kitchen cupboards are supposed to be Tasmanian Oak but they look like blackwood to me.
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:Many call Blackwood, Acacia melanoxylon, Tassie Oak?
Yes to the blackwood.
Tasmanian oak
Wikipedia
Tasmanian oak refers to the hardwood produced by three trees: Eucalyptus regnans, Eucalyptus obliqua or Eucalyptus delegatensis, when it is sourced from the Australian state of Tasmania. Despite the common name ‘oak’, none of the species are in the genus Quercus.Isn’t E.regnans usually known as mountain ash?
Yes. Too.
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
When wood was important to navies Huon pine, celery top pine and the Norfolk island pine from over there were important.Nowadays…Incat does use Tassie Oak for decking.
But Incat mostly makes ferries and passenger ships. When it does make navy ships it is for some one else’s navy.
Interestingly, the ferries we used to go to and from the Isle of Man were made in Tasmania.
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:
When wood was important to navies Huon pine, celery top pine and the Norfolk island pine from over there were important.Nowadays…Incat does use Tassie Oak for decking.
Many call Blackwood, Acacia melanoxylon, Tassie Oak?
Nobody that I know. Not that I know many…
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
When wood was important to navies Huon pine, celery top pine and the Norfolk island pine from over there were important.Nowadays…Incat does use Tassie Oak for decking.
But Incat mostly makes ferries and passenger ships. When it does make navy ships it is for some one else’s navy.
Interestingly, the ferries we used to go to and from the Isle of Man were made in Tasmania.
Probably made from Huon pine as well.
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
When wood was important to navies Huon pine, celery top pine and the Norfolk island pine from over there were important.Nowadays…Incat does use Tassie Oak for decking.
But Incat mostly makes ferries and passenger ships. When it does make navy ships it is for some one else’s navy.
Interestingly, the ferries we used to go to and from the Isle of Man were made in Tasmania.
That’s an Incat.
I caught one from Troon to Belfast.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:But Incat mostly makes ferries and passenger ships. When it does make navy ships it is for some one else’s navy.
Interestingly, the ferries we used to go to and from the Isle of Man were made in Tasmania.
Probably made from Huon pine as well.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:
When wood was important to navies Huon pine, celery top pine and the Norfolk island pine from over there were important.Nowadays…Incat does use Tassie Oak for decking.
Many call Blackwood, Acacia melanoxylon, Tassie Oak?
Nobody that I know. Not that I know many…
When I go to buy wood, names interest me. Sold as Maple is Maranti. Stuff like that. None of the Casuarinas are Quercus either but many have the common name oak.
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:Interestingly, the ferries we used to go to and from the Isle of Man were made in Tasmania.
Probably made from Huon pine as well.
Huon is precious these days. What there is is mostly salvage.
True but in its day was premium boat building stuff.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:Many call Blackwood, Acacia melanoxylon, Tassie Oak?
Nobody that I know. Not that I know many…
When I go to buy wood, names interest me. Sold as Maple is Maranti. Stuff like that. None of the Casuarinas are Quercus either but many have the common name oak.
So many names to learn. It isn’t uncommon for there to be a stack of common names.
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:Nobody that I know. Not that I know many…
When I go to buy wood, names interest me. Sold as Maple is Maranti. Stuff like that. None of the Casuarinas are Quercus either but many have the common name oak.
So many names to learn. It isn’t uncommon for there to be a stack of common names.
Usually what the wood resembles in appearance or usage. ie: box trees are named after boxwood.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incat
roughbarked said:
Rule 303 said:
Reading an ad for a guitar:“Comes with original hard case and paperwork. The sound of this guitar is literally out out of this worl…”
>stops reading<
Tunes in the key of Seti?
Might be a good investment for when space travel becomes more affordable.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:Many call Blackwood, Acacia melanoxylon, Tassie Oak?
Nobody that I know. Not that I know many…
When I go to buy wood, names interest me. Sold as Maple is Maranti. Stuff like that. None of the Casuarinas are Quercus either but many have the common name oak.
Yes, well, Meranti, Pacific Maple, Philipines Mahogany are just timber names.
In the case of Casuarinas, their timber is quite similar looking to oak, in terms of grain and hardness.
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:But Incat mostly makes ferries and passenger ships. When it does make navy ships it is for some one else’s navy.
Interestingly, the ferries we used to go to and from the Isle of Man were made in Tasmania.
That’s an Incat.
I caught one from Troon to Belfast.
Did you see the Giant’s Causeway?
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:Nobody that I know. Not that I know many…
When I go to buy wood, names interest me. Sold as Maple is Maranti. Stuff like that. None of the Casuarinas are Quercus either but many have the common name oak.
Yes, well, Meranti, Pacific Maple, Philipines Mahogany are just timber names.
In the case of Casuarinas, their timber is quite similar looking to oak, in terms of grain and hardness.
Yeh. Something like that.
been reminded I need ax wood, you think I feel like that
not really
me – another coffee or what
lady – yeah I might do that in a minute hang on heads out the door purposefully
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:Interestingly, the ferries we used to go to and from the Isle of Man were made in Tasmania.
That’s an Incat.
I caught one from Troon to Belfast.
Did you see the Giant’s Causeway?
sure did. And I saw the other end of it at Staffa.
sarahs mum said:
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:That’s an Incat.
I caught one from Troon to Belfast.
Did you see the Giant’s Causeway?
sure did. And I saw the other end of it at Staffa.
Haven’t seen the Giant’s Causeway but I watched the Open at Royal Troon in 97.
sarahs mum said:
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:That’s an Incat.
I caught one from Troon to Belfast.
Did you see the Giant’s Causeway?
sure did. And I saw the other end of it at Staffa.
Nice. Columnar basalt can sure be spectacular.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-18/australias-largest-meat-eating-theropod-identified-southern-qld/12366880
Likely 3 metres tall, according to the 80 cm footprints.
Haven’t had braised steak and onions for ages, it wont be tonight but definatly next week.
How the Prime Minister responded to an issue affecting pregnant women in Question Time today:
(PREGNANT) MEMBER FOR CANBERRA: Women from the Yass Valley are currently being forced to travel an hour to Canberra or Goulburn to give birth. As a result, a number of women have been forced to give birth on the side of the highway. Does the Prime Minister agree that that is unacceptable?
SCOTT MORRISON: Well, I’m pleased to let the member know that’s why we have committed $150 million to upgrade the Barton Highway.
- with Alicia Payne – Labor for Canberra
JudgeMental said:
How the Prime Minister responded to an issue affecting pregnant women in Question Time today:(PREGNANT) MEMBER FOR CANBERRA: Women from the Yass Valley are currently being forced to travel an hour to Canberra or Goulburn to give birth. As a result, a number of women have been forced to give birth on the side of the highway. Does the Prime Minister agree that that is unacceptable?
SCOTT MORRISON: Well, I’m pleased to let the member know that’s why we have committed $150 million to upgrade the Barton Highway.
- with Alicia Payne – Labor for Canberra
I suppose it makes for faster journey times between Yass and Goulburn. Maybe they might make it to the carpark rather than the side of the highway.
party_pants said:
JudgeMental said:
How the Prime Minister responded to an issue affecting pregnant women in Question Time today:(PREGNANT) MEMBER FOR CANBERRA: Women from the Yass Valley are currently being forced to travel an hour to Canberra or Goulburn to give birth. As a result, a number of women have been forced to give birth on the side of the highway. Does the Prime Minister agree that that is unacceptable?
SCOTT MORRISON: Well, I’m pleased to let the member know that’s why we have committed $150 million to upgrade the Barton Highway.
- with Alicia Payne – Labor for Canberra
I suppose it makes for faster journey times between Yass and Goulburn. Maybe they might make it to the carpark rather than the side of the highway.
The Hume Highway from Yass to Goulburn is already a 4-lane motorway. it’d take a lot of money to improve that journey by 2 minutes.
Most of the Barton Highway (Yass to Canberra) is not dual carriageway, and needs upgrading.
But I don’t think that’s the real point; to offer highway upgrades to solve poor hospital infrastructure (no maternity ward) is neither helpful nor decent.
JudgeMental said:
How the Prime Minister responded to an issue affecting pregnant women in Question Time today:(PREGNANT) MEMBER FOR CANBERRA: Women from the Yass Valley are currently being forced to travel an hour to Canberra or Goulburn to give birth. As a result, a number of women have been forced to give birth on the side of the highway. Does the Prime Minister agree that that is unacceptable?
SCOTT MORRISON: Well, I’m pleased to let the member know that’s why we have committed $150 million to upgrade the Barton Highway.
- with Alicia Payne – Labor for Canberra
Look, I know scotty is a bit of a moron but asking him a question in the national parliament about what is surely a state based issue is also a bit on the moronic side. His answer was stupid but how is he expected to know what is going on. He should have just stated that it was unacceptable and he’ll have someone look into it.
Michael V said:
party_pants said:
JudgeMental said:
How the Prime Minister responded to an issue affecting pregnant women in Question Time today:(PREGNANT) MEMBER FOR CANBERRA: Women from the Yass Valley are currently being forced to travel an hour to Canberra or Goulburn to give birth. As a result, a number of women have been forced to give birth on the side of the highway. Does the Prime Minister agree that that is unacceptable?
SCOTT MORRISON: Well, I’m pleased to let the member know that’s why we have committed $150 million to upgrade the Barton Highway.
- with Alicia Payne – Labor for Canberra
I suppose it makes for faster journey times between Yass and Goulburn. Maybe they might make it to the carpark rather than the side of the highway.
The Hume Highway from Yass to Goulburn is already a 4-lane motorway. it’d take a lot of money to improve that journey by 2 minutes.
Most of the Barton Highway (Yass to Canberra) is not dual carriageway, and needs upgrading.
But I don’t think that’s the real point; to offer highway upgrades to solve poor hospital infrastructure (no maternity ward) is neither helpful nor decent.
Yass to Canberra has needed doing since I lived in Canberra and I left there in ’94.
Michael V said:
But I don’t think that’s the real point; to offer highway upgrades to solve poor hospital infrastructure (no maternity ward) is neither helpful nor decent.
Yes. A hospital upgrade in Yass would be just bonza, rather than better roads.
sibeen said:
JudgeMental said:
How the Prime Minister responded to an issue affecting pregnant women in Question Time today:(PREGNANT) MEMBER FOR CANBERRA: Women from the Yass Valley are currently being forced to travel an hour to Canberra or Goulburn to give birth. As a result, a number of women have been forced to give birth on the side of the highway. Does the Prime Minister agree that that is unacceptable?
SCOTT MORRISON: Well, I’m pleased to let the member know that’s why we have committed $150 million to upgrade the Barton Highway.
- with Alicia Payne – Labor for Canberra
Look, I know scotty is a bit of a moron but asking him a question in the national parliament about what is surely a state based issue is also a bit on the moronic side. His answer was stupid but how is he expected to know what is going on. He should have just stated that it was unacceptable and he’ll have someone look into it.
well, the question was only whether he thought it an unacceptable situation. That’s pretty easy to answer.
party_pants said:
Michael V said:But I don’t think that’s the real point; to offer highway upgrades to solve poor hospital infrastructure (no maternity ward) is neither helpful nor decent.
Yes. A hospital upgrade in Yass would be just bonza, rather than better roads.
The Barton Highway needs an upgrade (and it’s already been slated). Several people a year get killed on it’s short length. A significant proportion of Yass Valley residents commute to Canberra daily, you see.
sibeen said:
JudgeMental said:
How the Prime Minister responded to an issue affecting pregnant women in Question Time today:(PREGNANT) MEMBER FOR CANBERRA: Women from the Yass Valley are currently being forced to travel an hour to Canberra or Goulburn to give birth. As a result, a number of women have been forced to give birth on the side of the highway. Does the Prime Minister agree that that is unacceptable?
SCOTT MORRISON: Well, I’m pleased to let the member know that’s why we have committed $150 million to upgrade the Barton Highway.
- with Alicia Payne – Labor for Canberra
Look, I know scotty is a bit of a moron but asking him a question in the national parliament about what is surely a state based issue is also a bit on the moronic side. His answer was stupid but how is he expected to know what is going on. He should have just stated that it was unacceptable and he’ll have someone look into it.
He should have just stated that it was unacceptable and he’ll have someone look into it.
Yes.
snags. potato. broccoli. leek. tonight’s repast.
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
When wood was important to navies Huon pine, celery top pine and the Norfolk island pine from over there were important.Nowadays…Incat does use Tassie Oak for decking.
But Incat mostly makes ferries and passenger ships. When it does make navy ships it is for some one else’s navy.
The RAN did operate an Incat ship 1999-2001 as HMAS Jervis Bay.
It was most useful in supporting INTERFET operations in East Timor.
Slightly worrying.
My bank card was declined.
So I went along to the bank. The teller looked puzzled then called in the manager.
The teller and manager looked at my account details on their screen and both burst out laughing.
Slightly worrying.
Peak Warming Man said:
sarahs mum said:
Peak Warming Man said:Did you see the Giant’s Causeway?
sure did. And I saw the other end of it at Staffa.
Haven’t seen the Giant’s Causeway but I watched the Open at Royal Troon in 97.
I drove past Royal Troon a few years ago. It looked like you could invest millions into the neighbourhood. Lots of stately Victorian buildings in sad condition.
mollwollfumble said:
Slightly worrying.My bank card was declined.
So I went along to the bank. The teller looked puzzled then called in the manager.
The teller and manager looked at my account details on their screen and both burst out laughing.
Slightly worrying.
And the upshot?
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
JudgeMental said:
How the Prime Minister responded to an issue affecting pregnant women in Question Time today:(PREGNANT) MEMBER FOR CANBERRA: Women from the Yass Valley are currently being forced to travel an hour to Canberra or Goulburn to give birth. As a result, a number of women have been forced to give birth on the side of the highway. Does the Prime Minister agree that that is unacceptable?
SCOTT MORRISON: Well, I’m pleased to let the member know that’s why we have committed $150 million to upgrade the Barton Highway.
- with Alicia Payne – Labor for Canberra
Look, I know scotty is a bit of a moron but asking him a question in the national parliament about what is surely a state based issue is also a bit on the moronic side. His answer was stupid but how is he expected to know what is going on. He should have just stated that it was unacceptable and he’ll have someone look into it.
He should have just stated that it was unacceptable and he’ll have someone look into it.
Yes.
It’s the fear of being seen to be ignorant of the issue.
By saying that he’s funded a highway upgrade, he thinks that he’s showing that he’s ‘across the issue’ and aware of the region’s needs.
It may be a ‘positive’ statement that’s irrelevant to the question, but it’s a positive.
You never say (or suggest) that ‘i don’t know’.
JudgeMental said:
How the Prime Minister responded to an issue affecting pregnant women in Question Time today:(PREGNANT) MEMBER FOR CANBERRA: Women from the Yass Valley are currently being forced to travel an hour to Canberra or Goulburn to give birth. As a result, a number of women have been forced to give birth on the side of the highway. Does the Prime Minister agree that that is unacceptable?
SCOTT MORRISON: Well, I’m pleased to let the member know that’s why we have committed $150 million to upgrade the Barton Highway.
- with Alicia Payne – Labor for Canberra
Janina says..‘He is stupid. He does not understand.’
Michael V said:
mollwollfumble said:
Slightly worrying.My bank card was declined.
So I went along to the bank. The teller looked puzzled then called in the manager.
The teller and manager looked at my account details on their screen and both burst out laughing.
Slightly worrying.
And the upshot?
They wouldn’t tell me why.
I ended up walking away without making any changes.
mollwollfumble said:
Michael V said:
mollwollfumble said:
Slightly worrying.My bank card was declined.
So I went along to the bank. The teller looked puzzled then called in the manager.
The teller and manager looked at my account details on their screen and both burst out laughing.
Slightly worrying.
And the upshot?
They wouldn’t tell me why.
I ended up walking away without making any changes.
Time to change banks.
And make sure they know why.
mollwollfumble said:
Slightly worrying.My bank card was declined.
So I went along to the bank. The teller looked puzzled then called in the manager.
The teller and manager looked at my account details on their screen and both burst out laughing.
Slightly worrying.
I hate that.
mollwollfumble said:
Michael V said:
mollwollfumble said:
Slightly worrying.My bank card was declined.
So I went along to the bank. The teller looked puzzled then called in the manager.
The teller and manager looked at my account details on their screen and both burst out laughing.
Slightly worrying.
And the upshot?
They wouldn’t tell me why.
I ended up walking away without making any changes.
You should have demanded an answer.
sibeen said:
JudgeMental said:
How the Prime Minister responded to an issue affecting pregnant women in Question Time today:(PREGNANT) MEMBER FOR CANBERRA: Women from the Yass Valley are currently being forced to travel an hour to Canberra or Goulburn to give birth. As a result, a number of women have been forced to give birth on the side of the highway. Does the Prime Minister agree that that is unacceptable?
SCOTT MORRISON: Well, I’m pleased to let the member know that’s why we have committed $150 million to upgrade the Barton Highway.
- with Alicia Payne – Labor for Canberra
Look, I know scotty is a bit of a moron but asking him a question in the national parliament about what is surely a state based issue is also a bit on the moronic side. His answer was stupid but how is he expected to know what is going on. He should have just stated that it was unacceptable and he’ll have someone look into it.
but he didn’t, he chose to make a stupid comment.
Arts said:
sibeen said:
JudgeMental said:
How the Prime Minister responded to an issue affecting pregnant women in Question Time today:(PREGNANT) MEMBER FOR CANBERRA: Women from the Yass Valley are currently being forced to travel an hour to Canberra or Goulburn to give birth. As a result, a number of women have been forced to give birth on the side of the highway. Does the Prime Minister agree that that is unacceptable?
SCOTT MORRISON: Well, I’m pleased to let the member know that’s why we have committed $150 million to upgrade the Barton Highway.
- with Alicia Payne – Labor for Canberra
Look, I know scotty is a bit of a moron but asking him a question in the national parliament about what is surely a state based issue is also a bit on the moronic side. His answer was stupid but how is he expected to know what is going on. He should have just stated that it was unacceptable and he’ll have someone look into it.
but he didn’t, he chose to make a stupid comment.
and probably with that smirk
captain_spalding said:
mollwollfumble said:
Michael V said:And the upshot?
They wouldn’t tell me why.
I ended up walking away without making any changes.
Time to change banks.
And make sure they know why.
Nods.
Arts said:
sibeen said:
JudgeMental said:
How the Prime Minister responded to an issue affecting pregnant women in Question Time today:(PREGNANT) MEMBER FOR CANBERRA: Women from the Yass Valley are currently being forced to travel an hour to Canberra or Goulburn to give birth. As a result, a number of women have been forced to give birth on the side of the highway. Does the Prime Minister agree that that is unacceptable?
SCOTT MORRISON: Well, I’m pleased to let the member know that’s why we have committed $150 million to upgrade the Barton Highway.
- with Alicia Payne – Labor for Canberra
Look, I know scotty is a bit of a moron but asking him a question in the national parliament about what is surely a state based issue is also a bit on the moronic side. His answer was stupid but how is he expected to know what is going on. He should have just stated that it was unacceptable and he’ll have someone look into it.
but he didn’t, he chose to make a stupid comment.
Yes, I think I pointed that out, thank you very much.
sibeen said:
Arts said:
sibeen said:Look, I know scotty is a bit of a moron but asking him a question in the national parliament about what is surely a state based issue is also a bit on the moronic side. His answer was stupid but how is he expected to know what is going on. He should have just stated that it was unacceptable and he’ll have someone look into it.
but he didn’t, he chose to make a stupid comment.
Yes, I think I pointed that out, thank you very much.
well, it wasn’t clear because of the superfluous verbiage that preceded that detail.
and pumpkin.
Michael V said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-18/australias-largest-meat-eating-theropod-identified-southern-qld/12366880Likely 3 metres tall, according to the 80 cm footprints.
Nice. Looks like some sort of allosaur.
Boris..was Richard C’s death mentioned on the SSSF group?
sarahs mum said:
Boris..was Richard C’s death mentioned on the SSSF group?
Haven’t seen it.
mollwollfumble said:
Michael V said:
mollwollfumble said:
Slightly worrying.My bank card was declined.
So I went along to the bank. The teller looked puzzled then called in the manager.
The teller and manager looked at my account details on their screen and both burst out laughing.
Slightly worrying.
And the upshot?
They wouldn’t tell me why.
I ended up walking away without making any changes.
you’d better login to your bank and check recent transactions
JudgeMental said:
sarahs mum said:
Boris..was Richard C’s death mentioned on the SSSF group?Haven’t seen it.
have now.
:-)
sibeen said:
JudgeMental said:
How the Prime Minister responded to an issue affecting pregnant women in Question Time today:(PREGNANT) MEMBER FOR CANBERRA: Women from the Yass Valley are currently being forced to travel an hour to Canberra or Goulburn to give birth. As a result, a number of women have been forced to give birth on the side of the highway. Does the Prime Minister agree that that is unacceptable?
SCOTT MORRISON: Well, I’m pleased to let the member know that’s why we have committed $150 million to upgrade the Barton Highway.
- with Alicia Payne – Labor for Canberra
Look, I know scotty is a bit of a moron but asking him a question in the national parliament about what is surely a state based issue is also a bit on the moronic side. His answer was stupid but how is he expected to know what is going on. He should have just stated that it was unacceptable and he’ll have someone look into it.
Sooty also got into a dust-up with the speaker.
sibeen said:
Arts said:
sibeen said:Look, I know scotty is a bit of a moron but asking him a question in the national parliament about what is surely a state based issue is also a bit on the moronic side. His answer was stupid but how is he expected to know what is going on. He should have just stated that it was unacceptable and he’ll have someone look into it.
but he didn’t, he chose to make a stupid comment.
Yes, I think I pointed that out, thank you very much.
You’re welcome
looked up after MV maybe it was used the word today, thought i’d post it here, evidence I live under a rock
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing
Astroturfing is the practice of masking the sponsors of a message or organization (e.g., political, advertising, religious or public relations) to make it appear as though it originates from and is supported by grassroots participants. It is a practice intended to give the statements or organizations credibility by withholding information about the source’s financial connection. The term astroturfing is derived from AstroTurf, a brand of synthetic carpeting designed to resemble natural grass, as a play on the word “grassroots”.
sarahs mum said:
As in rower from SA Richard C?
Boris..was Richard C’s death mentioned on the SSSF group?
Woodie said:
sarahs mum said:As in rower from SA Richard C?
Boris..was Richard C’s death mentioned on the SSSF group?
Yep. R.C.
Woodie said:
sarahs mum said:As in rower from SA Richard C?
Boris..was Richard C’s death mentioned on the SSSF group?
uh huh. :(
Ian said:
sibeen said:
JudgeMental said:
How the Prime Minister responded to an issue affecting pregnant women in Question Time today:(PREGNANT) MEMBER FOR CANBERRA: Women from the Yass Valley are currently being forced to travel an hour to Canberra or Goulburn to give birth. As a result, a number of women have been forced to give birth on the side of the highway. Does the Prime Minister agree that that is unacceptable?
SCOTT MORRISON: Well, I’m pleased to let the member know that’s why we have committed $150 million to upgrade the Barton Highway.
- with Alicia Payne – Labor for Canberra
Look, I know scotty is a bit of a moron but asking him a question in the national parliament about what is surely a state based issue is also a bit on the moronic side. His answer was stupid but how is he expected to know what is going on. He should have just stated that it was unacceptable and he’ll have someone look into it.
Sooty also got into a dust-up with the speaker.
Pollies, eh – SNAFU.
ok, I have a birthday lunch to attend tomorrow and I have to rehearse my liver… so I am having a cider or two tonight, both in the interest of rehearsal and for Richard C, who I didn’t really know apart form posts on sssf, but will have a drink for in the spirit of community. cheers
A bucolic stew with lashings of buttered fresh bread washed down with a glass of tap water.
I’m replete and relaxing with a cuppa.
Over.
JudgeMental said:
Woodie said:
sarahs mum said:As in rower from SA Richard C?
Boris..was Richard C’s death mentioned on the SSSF group?Yep. R.C.
FMD. I knew he had health issues, but this comes as sad news. I knew Richard very well, both on and off the forums. RIP Mr C. Is the casue known?
Woodie said:
JudgeMental said:
Woodie said:As in rower from SA Richard C?Yep. R.C.
FMD. I knew he had health issues, but this comes as sad news. I knew Richard very well, both on and off the forums. RIP Mr C. Is the casue known?
https://www.facebook.com/richard.challis.14
I think I am going to have to learn how to make kumquat marmalade.
I suppose I should be open to new learning experiences.
party_pants said:
I think I am going to have to learn how to make kumquat marmalade.I suppose I should be open to new learning experiences.
What a small world, I got marmalade today.
I couldn’t get Rose’s Lime marmalade so I had to do with Coles Breakfast marmalade.
Peak Warming Man said:
party_pants said:
I think I am going to have to learn how to make kumquat marmalade.I suppose I should be open to new learning experiences.
What a small world, I got marmalade today.
I couldn’t get Rose’s Lime marmalade so I had to do with Coles Breakfast marmalade.
a poor substitute. The Berenberg stuff is pretty good.
JudgeMental said:
Woodie said:
JudgeMental said:Yep. R.C.
FMD. I knew he had health issues, but this comes as sad news. I knew Richard very well, both on and off the forums. RIP Mr C. Is the casue known?
https://www.facebook.com/richard.challis.14
Yes, he is on my Facebook, but my feed didn’t pick anything up.
Woodie said:
JudgeMental said:
Woodie said:FMD. I knew he had health issues, but this comes as sad news. I knew Richard very well, both on and off the forums. RIP Mr C. Is the casue known?
https://www.facebook.com/richard.challis.14
Yes, he is on my Facebook, but my feed didn’t pick anything up.
His funeral was livestreamed and still online
There are days when I know I married the right woman. Today was one of those days.
We agreed on every single aspect of the fifty or so independent decisions in the buying of a new side gate and front fence. Colours, styles, manufacturer, steel profile, ground fixing, hand hole, lengths, heights, etc., etc. We even agreed to postpone the letterbox problem.
Absolutely amazing, especially as I’m colourblind and she isn’t, and she has trouble counting to ten.
Finger crossed that everything is ready to begin demolition of the existing brick fence and timber gate.
Neophyte said:
Woodie said:
JudgeMental said:https://www.facebook.com/richard.challis.14
Yes, he is on my Facebook, but my feed didn’t pick anything up.
His funeral was livestreamed and still online
Taa. I’ll go look.
Woodie said:
JudgeMental said:
Woodie said:FMD. I knew he had health issues, but this comes as sad news. I knew Richard very well, both on and off the forums. RIP Mr C. Is the casue known?
https://www.facebook.com/richard.challis.14
Yes, he is on my Facebook, but my feed didn’t pick anything up.
mine neither.
Woodie said:
Neophyte said:
Woodie said:Yes, he is on my Facebook, but my feed didn’t pick anything up.
His funeral was livestreamed and still online
Taa. I’ll go look.
https://vimeo.com/425481633
party_pants said:
I think I am going to have to learn how to make kumquat marmalade.I suppose I should be open to new learning experiences.
I can tell you how to make Kumquat beer, which is just about the best thing you could ever put in your mouth.
8-)
I was planning a moussaka. So I also planned a bit of greek salad. Woe is me. they substituted my marinated olives with Thai olives.How are Thai olives a thing? I might have tolerated the lemongrass but the coriander…Nup.
My first visitor gets Thai olives.
Neophyte said:
Woodie said:
Neophyte said:His funeral was livestreamed and still online
Taa. I’ll go look.
https://vimeo.com/425481633
Thank you Neo.
Neophyte said:
Woodie said:
Neophyte said:His funeral was livestreamed and still online
Taa. I’ll go look.
https://vimeo.com/425481633
Taa.
“This event ended at 9:35 PM on June 14, 2020”
“This Funeral Service will remain available here for many years to come”
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:
I think I am going to have to learn how to make kumquat marmalade.I suppose I should be open to new learning experiences.
I can tell you how to make Kumquat beer, which is just about the best thing you could ever put in your mouth.
8-)
STOP LYING!
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:
I think I am going to have to learn how to make kumquat marmalade.I suppose I should be open to new learning experiences.
I can tell you how to make Kumquat beer, which is just about the best thing you could ever put in your mouth.
8-)
STOP LYING!
You can bite the fattest part of my arse, battery sniffer.
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:
I think I am going to have to learn how to make kumquat marmalade.I suppose I should be open to new learning experiences.
I can tell you how to make Kumquat beer, which is just about the best thing you could ever put in your mouth.
8-)
STOP LYING!
That might be an option.
(although strictly speaking it is not a beer because it is not fermented grain)
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:I can tell you how to make Kumquat beer, which is just about the best thing you could ever put in your mouth.
8-)
STOP LYING!
That might be an option.
(although strictly speaking it is not a beer because it is not fermented grain)
Well strictly speaking there was more than enough grain to qualify it as beer, for your fucken information.
Mushroom report. Now I can see underneath, I’m not sure these are Agaricus. The stem is clean, no ring. Might be a Cortinarius sp. It’s probably not important. I’m still not going to eat them. I’ll knock one over either tomorrow or Saturday and see what the bottom of the stem looks like.
Neophyte said:
Woodie said:
Neophyte said:His funeral was livestreamed and still online
Taa. I’ll go look.
https://vimeo.com/425481633
Very good.
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:STOP LYING!
That might be an option.
(although strictly speaking it is not a beer because it is not fermented grain)
Well strictly speaking there was more than enough grain to qualify it as beer, for your fucken information.
I don’t have a surplus of grain, just kumquats.
Vera Lynn wont be meeting anyone again.
buffy said:
Mushroom report. Now I can see underneath, I’m not sure these are Agaricus. The stem is clean, no ring. Might be a Cortinarius sp. It’s probably not important. I’m still not going to eat them. I’ll knock one over either tomorrow or Saturday and see what the bottom of the stem looks like.
Doesn’t seem like a Cortinarius.
party_pants said:
I think I am going to have to learn how to make kumquat marmalade.I suppose I should be open to new learning experiences.
They can also be eaten (skin and pulp) apparently. As well, they are useful as flavouring for silver beet and similar.
Worth a smile or more
https://i.imgur.com/VPqeRwa.mp4
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:I can tell you how to make Kumquat beer, which is just about the best thing you could ever put in your mouth.
8-)
STOP LYING!
You can bite the fattest part of my arse, battery sniffer.
PMSL
We had home made souvlaki for tea tonight. I made the pita bread. I’d never done that before. It’s basically just white bread, rolled thin and either fried or baked. I baked one at a time. You only bake for 2 minutes, flip and another 2 minutes. Worked fine, but thinner than the shop stuff. We were using up some of the leftover roast lamb from last night.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-18/aec-cracks-down-on-signage-in-eden-monaro-by-election/12370874
JudgeMental said:
Vera Lynn wont be meeting anyone again.
RIP dame Vera.
I saw Dame Vera live in concert.
…………… and no. It wasn’t during the war.
I want a pair
https://i.imgur.com/Vkp2cV5.mp4
I believe this is the video they were trying to show at Richards funeral.
His description: Star trails around the south celestial pole. This clip was built up using Startrails software from 832 images taken with a Canon 1100D camera with a Sigma 10-20mm wide angle lens. Each image was a 30 second exposure and there’s less than a second between the end of one exposure and the beginning of the next one so the whole period was about 7 hours.
https://www.aph.gov.au/petition_sign?id=EN1600
“Petition EN1600 – Ban facial recognition technology
Petition Reason
The citizens of Australia have never authorised the use of our tax payer dollars to fund “facial recognition technology” to track our children and our own face, gender, race and even the colour of our clothes. The propensity for facial recognition technology (encompassing all biometric data) to endanger civil rights and liberties outweighs its apparent benefits, exacerbating racial injustice and threatening the ability of free, law abiding citizens to live free of continuous government monitoring.
Petition Request
We therefore ask the House to ensure: 1) Facial recognition technology in all its’ forms (including Briefcam or similar tech that tracks licence plates, and in all public areas that categorises and monetises the population) is banned within Australia 2) Any existing databases that are being held on Australian citizens relating to their facial or biometric data are deleted immediately 3) All Australian cities sign the coalition of cities for Digital Rights (aiming to protect, promote and monitor residents’ and visitors’ rights) 4) Local Councils and policing bodies commit to engaging the community in real evidence based methods of crime control, such as increasing police presence in areas of serious concern, giving real consultation pathways to community leaders and consulting with community groups as to their wants and needs – methods proven to reduce crime and boost community morale and cohesion. 5) Create a truly independent National body to monitor and champion privacy and digital rights. We can have security without being a Security State.
Number of signatures: 1207
Closing date for signatures: 08 July 2020 (11.59pm AEST)”
Hey Rule, do you still see Tony M?
JudgeMental said:
Vera Lynn wont be meeting anyone again.
:(
sibeen said:
Hey Rule, do you still see Tony M?
Yep, all the time.
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:
Hey Rule, do you still see Tony M?
Yep, all the time.
Can you tell him that Dario C just had his first child 6 weeks ago, a boy called Alek.
I don’t know whether Tony still catches up with Dario but I imagine he’ll have a chuckle if not as Dario turned 50 last year :)
Michael V said:
https://www.aph.gov.au/petition_sign?id=EN1600“Petition EN1600 – Ban facial recognition technology
Petition Reason
The citizens of Australia have never authorised the use of our tax payer dollars to fund “facial recognition technology” to track our children and our own face, gender, race and even the colour of our clothes. The propensity for facial recognition technology (encompassing all biometric data) to endanger civil rights and liberties outweighs its apparent benefits, exacerbating racial injustice and threatening the ability of free, law abiding citizens to live free of continuous government monitoring.
Petition Request
We therefore ask the House to ensure: 1) Facial recognition technology in all its’ forms (including Briefcam or similar tech that tracks licence plates, and in all public areas that categorises and monetises the population) is banned within Australia 2) Any existing databases that are being held on Australian citizens relating to their facial or biometric data are deleted immediately 3) All Australian cities sign the coalition of cities for Digital Rights (aiming to protect, promote and monitor residents’ and visitors’ rights) 4) Local Councils and policing bodies commit to engaging the community in real evidence based methods of crime control, such as increasing police presence in areas of serious concern, giving real consultation pathways to community leaders and consulting with community groups as to their wants and needs – methods proven to reduce crime and boost community morale and cohesion. 5) Create a truly independent National body to monitor and champion privacy and digital rights. We can have security without being a Security State.
Number of signatures: 1207
Closing date for signatures: 08 July 2020 (11.59pm AEST)”
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:
Hey Rule, do you still see Tony M?
Yep, all the time.
Can you tell him that Dario C just had his first child 6 weeks ago, a boy called Alek.
I don’t know whether Tony still catches up with Dario but I imagine he’ll have a chuckle if not as Dario turned 50 last year :)
Sure. Shall do.
Most of the Melbourne kids I talk to about reproductive age (yes, believe it or not, that happens all the time) think the normal age range for childbearing is 25-50. Not even kidding.
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:
https://www.aph.gov.au/petition_sign?id=EN1600“Petition EN1600 – Ban facial recognition technology
Petition Reason
The citizens of Australia have never authorised the use of our tax payer dollars to fund “facial recognition technology” to track our children and our own face, gender, race and even the colour of our clothes. The propensity for facial recognition technology (encompassing all biometric data) to endanger civil rights and liberties outweighs its apparent benefits, exacerbating racial injustice and threatening the ability of free, law abiding citizens to live free of continuous government monitoring.
Petition Request
We therefore ask the House to ensure: 1) Facial recognition technology in all its’ forms (including Briefcam or similar tech that tracks licence plates, and in all public areas that categorises and monetises the population) is banned within Australia 2) Any existing databases that are being held on Australian citizens relating to their facial or biometric data are deleted immediately 3) All Australian cities sign the coalition of cities for Digital Rights (aiming to protect, promote and monitor residents’ and visitors’ rights) 4) Local Councils and policing bodies commit to engaging the community in real evidence based methods of crime control, such as increasing police presence in areas of serious concern, giving real consultation pathways to community leaders and consulting with community groups as to their wants and needs – methods proven to reduce crime and boost community morale and cohesion. 5) Create a truly independent National body to monitor and champion privacy and digital rights. We can have security without being a Security State.
Number of signatures: 1207
Closing date for signatures: 08 July 2020 (11.59pm AEST)”
It was nice for the states to hand all the vehicle license photos to the Commonwealth without asking anyone.
Did they? When was this? How has it been documented?
Did we all hear about Ernie Dingo belting a bloke for calling him a ‘Fucken Abo’ at a train station in Perth?
There would be less racism if more people did that.
Rule 303 said:
Did we all hear about Ernie Dingo belting a bloke for calling him a ‘Fucken Abo’ at a train station in Perth?There would be less racism if more people did that.
Yeah, I read about that. I note the racist hasn’t made a Police complaint…
I’m not sure violence is the best antidote to anything, really.
Rule 303 said:
Did we all hear about Ernie Dingo belting a bloke for calling him a ‘Fucken Abo’ at a train station in Perth?There would be less racism if more people did that.
No, I had not heard.
On the second point, there would still be racism, but less often publicly expressed.
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:
https://www.aph.gov.au/petition_sign?id=EN1600“Petition EN1600 – Ban facial recognition technology
Petition Reason
The citizens of Australia have never authorised the use of our tax payer dollars to fund “facial recognition technology” to track our children and our own face, gender, race and even the colour of our clothes. The propensity for facial recognition technology (encompassing all biometric data) to endanger civil rights and liberties outweighs its apparent benefits, exacerbating racial injustice and threatening the ability of free, law abiding citizens to live free of continuous government monitoring.
Petition Request
We therefore ask the House to ensure: 1) Facial recognition technology in all its’ forms (including Briefcam or similar tech that tracks licence plates, and in all public areas that categorises and monetises the population) is banned within Australia 2) Any existing databases that are being held on Australian citizens relating to their facial or biometric data are deleted immediately 3) All Australian cities sign the coalition of cities for Digital Rights (aiming to protect, promote and monitor residents’ and visitors’ rights) 4) Local Councils and policing bodies commit to engaging the community in real evidence based methods of crime control, such as increasing police presence in areas of serious concern, giving real consultation pathways to community leaders and consulting with community groups as to their wants and needs – methods proven to reduce crime and boost community morale and cohesion. 5) Create a truly independent National body to monitor and champion privacy and digital rights. We can have security without being a Security State.
Number of signatures: 1207
Closing date for signatures: 08 July 2020 (11.59pm AEST)”
It was nice for the states to hand all the vehicle license photos to the Commonwealth without asking anyone.Did they? When was this? How has it been documented?
In October 2017, all federal, state and territory leaders agreed to establish the NDLFRS in order for law enforcement agencies to share and access identity information in real-time.
https://www.itnews.com.au/news/first-states-upload-data-to-national-facial-recognition-system-531084
did you know that purple is a hyponym of colour?
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:It was nice for the states to hand all the vehicle license photos to the Commonwealth without asking anyone.
Did they? When was this? How has it been documented?
This story is nine months old.In October 2017, all federal, state and territory leaders agreed to establish the NDLFRS in order for law enforcement agencies to share and access identity information in real-time.
https://www.itnews.com.au/news/first-states-upload-data-to-national-facial-recognition-system-531084
Ta.
I’m ambivalent about this personal data aggregation by government. I see some good could come of it, but then I’m not sure if I trust everyone to have pure-as-the-driven-snow motives for use.
JudgeMental said:
did you know that purple is a hyponym of colour?
I didn’t, but I do now. As basalt is a hyponym of rock.
Michael V said:
JudgeMental said:
did you know that purple is a hyponym of colour?
I didn’t, but I do now. As basalt is a hyponym of rock.
Me too.
… and rock is a hyponym of music.
I’ve been entertaining myself by watching Antartica webcams.
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:Did they? When was this? How has it been documented?
This story is nine months old.In October 2017, all federal, state and territory leaders agreed to establish the NDLFRS in order for law enforcement agencies to share and access identity information in real-time.
https://www.itnews.com.au/news/first-states-upload-data-to-national-facial-recognition-system-531084
Ta.
I’m ambivalent about this personal data aggregation by government. I see some good could come of it, but then I’m not sure if I trust everyone to have pure-as-the-driven-snow motives for use.
I understand. I fluctuate from I don’t care to wondering if the govt isn’t recommending facial masks because they want all the facial recognition data they can get.From ambivalence to paranoia.
JudgeMental said:
did you know that purple is a hyponym of colour?
who, me?
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:
Did we all hear about Ernie Dingo belting a bloke for calling him a ‘Fucken Abo’ at a train station in Perth?There would be less racism if more people did that.
Yeah, I read about that. I note the racist hasn’t made a Police complaint…
I’m not sure violence is the best antidote to anything, really.
It’s one of many possible responses to a perceived attack, I suppose. You weigh the odds and place your bets.
Divine Angel said:
I’ve been entertaining myself by watching Antartica webcams.

sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:This story is nine months old.
In October 2017, all federal, state and territory leaders agreed to establish the NDLFRS in order for law enforcement agencies to share and access identity information in real-time.
https://www.itnews.com.au/news/first-states-upload-data-to-national-facial-recognition-system-531084
Ta.
I’m ambivalent about this personal data aggregation by government. I see some good could come of it, but then I’m not sure if I trust everyone to have pure-as-the-driven-snow motives for use.
I understand. I fluctuate from I don’t care to wondering if the govt isn’t recommending facial masks because they want all the facial recognition data they can get.From ambivalence to paranoia.
Ouch.
JudgeMental said:
Divine Angel said:
I’ve been entertaining myself by watching Antartica webcams.
That’s brings back memories….
Divine Angel said:
I’ve been entertaining myself by watching Antartica webcams.
Isn’t it a bit dark there??
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:
JudgeMental said:
did you know that purple is a hyponym of colour?
I didn’t, but I do now. As basalt is a hyponym of rock.
Me too.
… and rock is a hyponym of music.
:)
Rocks do sing their songs to me.
sarahs mum said:
Divine Angel said:
I’ve been entertaining myself by watching Antartica webcams.
Isn’t it a bit dark there??
Not at the stations. They’re getting up to six hours of daylight.
Divine Angel said:
I’ve been entertaining myself by watching Antartica webcams.
Sounds about as entertaining as watching ice melt.
I’ve also been reading a library ebook called Dorothy Must Die. It’s about a teenage girl from Kansas who ends up in Oz, only to find Dorothy has royally fucked it all up.
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:
https://www.aph.gov.au/petition_sign?id=EN1600“Petition EN1600 – Ban facial recognition technology
Petition Reason
The citizens of Australia have never authorised the use of our tax payer dollars to fund “facial recognition technology” to track our children and our own face, gender, race and even the colour of our clothes. The propensity for facial recognition technology (encompassing all biometric data) to endanger civil rights and liberties outweighs its apparent benefits, exacerbating racial injustice and threatening the ability of free, law abiding citizens to live free of continuous government monitoring.
Petition Request
We therefore ask the House to ensure: 1) Facial recognition technology in all its’ forms (including Briefcam or similar tech that tracks licence plates, and in all public areas that categorises and monetises the population) is banned within Australia 2) Any existing databases that are being held on Australian citizens relating to their facial or biometric data are deleted immediately 3) All Australian cities sign the coalition of cities for Digital Rights (aiming to protect, promote and monitor residents’ and visitors’ rights) 4) Local Councils and policing bodies commit to engaging the community in real evidence based methods of crime control, such as increasing police presence in areas of serious concern, giving real consultation pathways to community leaders and consulting with community groups as to their wants and needs – methods proven to reduce crime and boost community morale and cohesion. 5) Create a truly independent National body to monitor and champion privacy and digital rights. We can have security without being a Security State.
Number of signatures: 1207
Closing date for signatures: 08 July 2020 (11.59pm AEST)”
It was nice for the states to hand all the vehicle license photos to the Commonwealth without asking anyone.
I’m not keen on facial recognition software but I do take issue with the opening statement of the petition:
The citizens of Australia have never authorised the use of our tax payer dollars to fund “facial recognition technology”….
That’s a really stupid argument as it could be used for every bit of legislation ever put forward, or at least the vast, vast majority of it.
Divine Angel said:
sarahs mum said:
Divine Angel said:
I’ve been entertaining myself by watching Antartica webcams.
Isn’t it a bit dark there??
Not at the stations. They’re getting up to six hours of daylight.
I just had a quick look and the 2-day time-lapse video. There seems to be lots of activity at the station during those 6 hours. I guess they have the whole night to plan it, then document it.
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:
https://www.aph.gov.au/petition_sign?id=EN1600“Petition EN1600 – Ban facial recognition technology
Petition Reason
The citizens of Australia have never authorised the use of our tax payer dollars to fund “facial recognition technology” to track our children and our own face, gender, race and even the colour of our clothes. The propensity for facial recognition technology (encompassing all biometric data) to endanger civil rights and liberties outweighs its apparent benefits, exacerbating racial injustice and threatening the ability of free, law abiding citizens to live free of continuous government monitoring.
Petition Request
We therefore ask the House to ensure: 1) Facial recognition technology in all its’ forms (including Briefcam or similar tech that tracks licence plates, and in all public areas that categorises and monetises the population) is banned within Australia 2) Any existing databases that are being held on Australian citizens relating to their facial or biometric data are deleted immediately 3) All Australian cities sign the coalition of cities for Digital Rights (aiming to protect, promote and monitor residents’ and visitors’ rights) 4) Local Councils and policing bodies commit to engaging the community in real evidence based methods of crime control, such as increasing police presence in areas of serious concern, giving real consultation pathways to community leaders and consulting with community groups as to their wants and needs – methods proven to reduce crime and boost community morale and cohesion. 5) Create a truly independent National body to monitor and champion privacy and digital rights. We can have security without being a Security State.
Number of signatures: 1207
Closing date for signatures: 08 July 2020 (11.59pm AEST)”
It was nice for the states to hand all the vehicle license photos to the Commonwealth without asking anyone.I’m not keen on facial recognition software but I do take issue with the opening statement of the petition:
The citizens of Australia have never authorised the use of our tax payer dollars to fund “facial recognition technology”….
That’s a really stupid argument as it could be used for every bit of legislation ever put forward, or at least the vast, vast majority of it.
I was going to mention that. We have a system where we elect governments to do the governing without needing a vote on every single issue.
JudgeMental said:
Divine Angel said:
I’ve been entertaining myself by watching Antartica webcams.
LOL
JudgeMental said:
Divine Angel said:
I’ve been entertaining myself by watching Antartica webcams.
:)
The Panama Canal webcam is interesting at times.
I hear the NBN is finished.
so what do we think of the passport checks at immigration on arrival
Peak Warming Man said:
JudgeMental said:
Divine Angel said:
I’ve been entertaining myself by watching Antartica webcams.
LOL
JudgeMental said:
I hear the NBN is finished.
Just in time to start on a massive upgrade program :/
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:Ta.
I’m ambivalent about this personal data aggregation by government. I see some good could come of it, but then I’m not sure if I trust everyone to have pure-as-the-driven-snow motives for use.
I understand. I fluctuate from I don’t care to wondering if the govt isn’t recommending facial masks because they want all the facial recognition data they can get.From ambivalence to paranoia.
Ouch.
It’s sort of holistic.
Divine Angel said:
I’ve been entertaining myself by watching Antartica webcams.
Antarctica.
:-)
Peak Warming Man said:
JudgeMental said:
Divine Angel said:
I’ve been entertaining myself by watching Antartica webcams.
LOL
This time of year it’s more like
Hello.
Today was a very productive day. It started with a visit to the dentist, then I worked through a bunch of tricky bookkeeping issues that I had been avoiding for months. This resulted in a deep cardboard cut on the tip of my middle finger which really hurt and bled a lot at the time, but isn’t too bad now.
Michael V said:
https://www.aph.gov.au/petition_sign?id=EN1600“Petition EN1600 – Ban facial recognition technology
Petition Reason
The citizens of Australia have never authorised the use of our tax payer dollars to fund “facial recognition technology” to track our children and our own face, gender, race and even the colour of our clothes. The propensity for facial recognition technology (encompassing all biometric data) to endanger civil rights and liberties outweighs its apparent benefits, exacerbating racial injustice and threatening the ability of free, law abiding citizens to live free of continuous government monitoring.
Petition Request
We therefore ask the House to ensure: 1) Facial recognition technology in all its’ forms (including Briefcam or similar tech that tracks licence plates, and in all public areas that categorises and monetises the population) is banned within Australia 2) Any existing databases that are being held on Australian citizens relating to their facial or biometric data are deleted immediately 3) All Australian cities sign the coalition of cities for Digital Rights (aiming to protect, promote and monitor residents’ and visitors’ rights) 4) Local Councils and policing bodies commit to engaging the community in real evidence based methods of crime control, such as increasing police presence in areas of serious concern, giving real consultation pathways to community leaders and consulting with community groups as to their wants and needs – methods proven to reduce crime and boost community morale and cohesion. 5) Create a truly independent National body to monitor and champion privacy and digital rights. We can have security without being a Security State.
Number of signatures: 1207
Closing date for signatures: 08 July 2020 (11.59pm AEST)”
I don’t agree with banning licence plate tracking technologies. With the advent of driverless cars it will probably be necessary and useful by forcing cars to always drive under the speed limit and catch unlicenced drivers etc.
JudgeMental said:
I hear the NBN is finished.
It was finished before it even started.
How is your mum Speedy?
JudgeMental said:
I hear the NBN is finished.
I never really liked channel 9 anyway. Good riddance, I say.
SCIENCE said:
so what do we think of the passport checks at immigration on arrival
What aspect?
party_pants said:
JudgeMental said:
Divine Angel said:
I’ve been entertaining myself by watching Antartica webcams.
:)
The Panama Canal webcam is interesting at times.
I check on Mt wellington summit cam sometimes. I have been known to watch tourists getting off buses at Edinburgh castle.
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:I understand. I fluctuate from I don’t care to wondering if the govt isn’t recommending facial masks because they want all the facial recognition data they can get.From ambivalence to paranoia.
Ouch.
It’s sort of holistic.
LOL
I suppose so.
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
so what do we think of the passport checks at immigration on arrival
What aspect?
Portrait.
monkey skipper said:
Hello.
Hello.
JudgeMental said:
I hear the NBN is finished.
no that was the other wired copper after ‘e got filmed killing black Americans
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
so what do we think of the passport checks at immigration on arrival
What aspect?
the facial recognition part
JudgeMental said:
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
so what do we think of the passport checks at immigration on arrival
What aspect?
Portrait.
OK. Got me.
:)
JudgeMental said:
Divine Angel said:
I’ve been entertaining myself by watching Antartica webcams.
Antarctica.
:-)
See, I had that written first, but the red line showed up and when I highlighted it, it changed to the version I submitted. Even now there’s no red line under either version.
But whatever, I’m going to bed.
monkey skipper said:
How is your mum Speedy?
Hi ms skipper :)
Mum is going very well. She has seen a lung specialist who sent her for many tests, then concluded that he couldn’t find anything wrong with her lungs and could not explain why her lung infections were as bad as they were. She has also seen a cardiologist who doubts very much that she has an issue with her heart, but he has sent her for the proper tests just in case. She will have those done next week.
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
so what do we think of the passport checks at immigration on arrival
What aspect?
the facial recognition part
Just one immigration official looking at me and the picture in the passport?
No problem. Good idea. Works well, I think.
I feel like we can probably stop paying for inner-city hotel accommodation to quarantine new arrivals unless they’re Australian citizens now. It’s costing us $2k per person for the 14 days, and filling up so many rooms (well, in Melbourne…) the empty rooms have jumped 40% across the board.
There are some terrific driverless car plots to be had.
JudgeMental said:
Divine Angel said:
I’ve been entertaining myself by watching Antartica webcams.
I’ve read that that painting (by Alphonse Allais, called “Première communion de jeunes filles chlorotiques par un temps de neige” (“First Communion of Anaemic Young Girls in the Snow”), 1883; it was part of a series) inspired John Cage to write 4’33”.
Michael V said:
monkey skipper said:
Hello.
Hello.
Rule 303 said:
I feel like we can probably stop paying for inner-city hotel accommodation to quarantine new arrivals unless they’re Australian citizens now. It’s costing us $2k per person for the 14 days, and filling up so many rooms (well, in Melbourne…) the empty rooms have jumped 40% across the board.
Christmas Island Was The Correct And Final Solution
Rule 303 said:
I feel like we can probably stop paying for inner-city hotel accommodation to quarantine new arrivals unless they’re Australian citizens now. It’s costing us $2k per person for the 14 days, and filling up so many rooms (well, in Melbourne…) the empty rooms have jumped 40% across the board.
Oooooh. A new piece on a chess board that can jump 40% across it. Nice. Now we can’t call it a Bishop, or a Rook etc. What about a Quarant?
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:What aspect?
the facial recognition part
Just one immigration official looking at me and the picture in the passport?
No problem. Good idea. Works well, I think.
uh we mean this
https://www.futuretravelexperience.com/2016/09/egates-rollout-complete-in-australia/
Peak Warming Man said:
There are some terrific driverless car plots to be had.
I can see airport bookshops full of best-sellers called ‘Crash!’ and ‘Prang!’ and ‘Stack!’ and the mysterious ‘Motor Vehicle Accident’.
btm said:
JudgeMental said:
Divine Angel said:
I’ve been entertaining myself by watching Antartica webcams.
I’ve read that that painting (by Alphonse Allais, called “Première communion de jeunes filles chlorotiques par un temps de neige” (“First Communion of Anaemic Young Girls in the Snow”), 1883; it was part of a series) inspired John Cage to write 4’33”.
I suppose the original painting would be worth a lot of money now.
btm said:
JudgeMental said:
Divine Angel said:
I’ve been entertaining myself by watching Antartica webcams.
I’ve read that that painting (by Alphonse Allais, called “Première communion de jeunes filles chlorotiques par un temps de neige” (“First Communion of Anaemic Young Girls in the Snow”), 1883; it was part of a series) inspired John Cage to write 4’33”.
Art, eh?
monkey skipper said:
Michael V said:
monkey skipper said:
Hello.
Hello.
Hey MV!
What’s happening?
Michael V said:
btm said:
JudgeMental said:
I’ve read that that painting (by Alphonse Allais, called “Première communion de jeunes filles chlorotiques par un temps de neige” (“First Communion of Anaemic Young Girls in the Snow”), 1883; it was part of a series) inspired John Cage to write 4’33”.
Art, eh?
not an essential service, eh sm?
Speedy said:
monkey skipper said:
How is your mum Speedy?
Hi ms skipper :)
Mum is going very well. She has seen a lung specialist who sent her for many tests, then concluded that he couldn’t find anything wrong with her lungs and could not explain why her lung infections were as bad as they were. She has also seen a cardiologist who doubts very much that she has an issue with her heart, but he has sent her for the proper tests just in case. She will have those done next week.
Just as long as she is on the mend. Then it will be less stressful for her and the family/
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:the facial recognition part
Just one immigration official looking at me and the picture in the passport?
No problem. Good idea. Works well, I think.
uh we mean this
https://www.futuretravelexperience.com/2016/09/egates-rollout-complete-in-australia/
I didn’t notice. But then, I was tired…
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:
I feel like we can probably stop paying for inner-city hotel accommodation to quarantine new arrivals unless they’re Australian citizens now. It’s costing us $2k per person for the 14 days, and filling up so many rooms (well, in Melbourne…) the empty rooms have jumped 40% across the board.
Oooooh. A new piece on a chess board that can jump 40% across it. Nice. Now we can’t call it a Bishop, or a Rook etc. What about a Quarant?
You couldn’t call it ‘Bishop’ unless it had already displayed considerable talent in the game of ‘Hide the Sausage’ with small children. Perhaps reserving Quatant for Arch Bishops who had got away with it at least forty times?
we’ve talked about covids and rooks before
Well the only cams I watch are Snow Cams at Perisher and Thredbo, as well as the sea eagle cam at Homebush. The female actually laid an egg today, one of two eggs that should hatch in August. The juveniles should fledge in about March next year. The purpose of the cam is to monitor the eagles in that environment, as there were concerns that they would suffer from pollution in the Parramatta River. I’ve been watching this cam since 2011 and there has been major drama every single year e.g. swallowed fishing line and hooks, eggs not hatching, eagles falling from nest, attack by other eagles, disease, disappearance of one parent, chicks killing each other. It’s a wonder this species survives at all.
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:Just one immigration official looking at me and the picture in the passport?
No problem. Good idea. Works well, I think.
uh we mean this
https://www.futuretravelexperience.com/2016/09/egates-rollout-complete-in-australia/
I didn’t notice. But then, I was tired…
https://www.arnnet.com.au/article/625353/vision-box-hunts-new-talent-amid-22-7m-govt-contract-win/
btm said:
JudgeMental said:
Divine Angel said:
I’ve been entertaining myself by watching Antartica webcams.
I’ve read that that painting (by Alphonse Allais, called “Première communion de jeunes filles chlorotiques par un temps de neige” (“First Communion of Anaemic Young Girls in the Snow”), 1883; it was part of a series) inspired John Cage to write 4’33”.
Here’s the original.
I like this guy, he also composed music for the profoundly deaf.
Speedy said:
Well the only cams I watch are Snow Cams at Perisher and Thredbo, as well as the sea eagle cam at Homebush. The female actually laid an egg today, one of two eggs that should hatch in August. The juveniles should fledge in about March next year. The purpose of the cam is to monitor the eagles in that environment, as there were concerns that they would suffer from pollution in the Parramatta River. I’ve been watching this cam since 2011 and there has been major drama every single year e.g. swallowed fishing line and hooks, eggs not hatching, eagles falling from nest, attack by other eagles, disease, disappearance of one parent, chicks killing each other. It’s a wonder this species survives at all.
Oooh there’s an egg in the nest, I’ll have to pop in there from time to time now.
monkey skipper said:
Speedy said:
monkey skipper said:
How is your mum Speedy?
Hi ms skipper :)
Mum is going very well. She has seen a lung specialist who sent her for many tests, then concluded that he couldn’t find anything wrong with her lungs and could not explain why her lung infections were as bad as they were. She has also seen a cardiologist who doubts very much that she has an issue with her heart, but he has sent her for the proper tests just in case. She will have those done next week.
Just as long as she is on the mend. Then it will be less stressful for her and the family/
It sure has been a rollercoaster so far, as she was actually diagnosed with emphysema there for a little while. Not many are miraculously “cured” of that one :)
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:Ouch.
It’s sort of holistic.
LOL
I suppose so.
I feel all the stuff.
Peak Warming Man said:
btm said:
JudgeMental said:
I’ve read that that painting (by Alphonse Allais, called “Première communion de jeunes filles chlorotiques par un temps de neige” (“First Communion of Anaemic Young Girls in the Snow”), 1883; it was part of a series) inspired John Cage to write 4’33”.
Here’s the original.
I like this guy, he also composed music for the profoundly deaf.
I have a print of it.
Peak Warming Man said:
Speedy said:
Well the only cams I watch are Snow Cams at Perisher and Thredbo, as well as the sea eagle cam at Homebush. The female actually laid an egg today, one of two eggs that should hatch in August. The juveniles should fledge in about March next year. The purpose of the cam is to monitor the eagles in that environment, as there were concerns that they would suffer from pollution in the Parramatta River. I’ve been watching this cam since 2011 and there has been major drama every single year e.g. swallowed fishing line and hooks, eggs not hatching, eagles falling from nest, attack by other eagles, disease, disappearance of one parent, chicks killing each other. It’s a wonder this species survives at all.
Oooh there’s an egg in the nest, I’ll have to pop in there from time to time now.
Yes, I got the email. Aren’t you on the email list? :)
Speedy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Speedy said:
Well the only cams I watch are Snow Cams at Perisher and Thredbo, as well as the sea eagle cam at Homebush. The female actually laid an egg today, one of two eggs that should hatch in August. The juveniles should fledge in about March next year. The purpose of the cam is to monitor the eagles in that environment, as there were concerns that they would suffer from pollution in the Parramatta River. I’ve been watching this cam since 2011 and there has been major drama every single year e.g. swallowed fishing line and hooks, eggs not hatching, eagles falling from nest, attack by other eagles, disease, disappearance of one parent, chicks killing each other. It’s a wonder this species survives at all.
Oooh there’s an egg in the nest, I’ll have to pop in there from time to time now.
Yes, I got the email. Aren’t you on the email list? :)
No or I used a long dead email.
Arts said:
Michael V said:
btm said:I’ve read that that painting (by Alphonse Allais, called “Première communion de jeunes filles chlorotiques par un temps de neige” (“First Communion of Anaemic Young Girls in the Snow”), 1883; it was part of a series) inspired John Cage to write 4’33”.
Art, eh?
not an essential service, eh sm?
Art and culture is so 70s.
Our present government is more football and speaking in tongues.
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:
Michael V said:Art, eh?
not an essential service, eh sm?
Art and culture is so 70s.
Our present government is more football and speaking in tongues.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Speaking of Incat, earlier…
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-18/elon-musk-names-incat-as-potential-launch-pad-builder/12368032
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:
Michael V said:Art, eh?
not an essential service, eh sm?
Art and culture is so 70s.
Our present government is more football and speaking in tongues.
Or speaking with forked tongue.
Neophyte said:
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:not an essential service, eh sm?
Art and culture is so 70s.
Our present government is more football and speaking in tongues.
Or speaking with forked tongue.
It’s a shame Hillsong don’t do the dancing with snakes thing.
sarahs mum said:
Art and culture is so 70s.
Our present government is more football and speaking in tongues.
Our government today approved a Mirvac development which had previously been refused due to environmental concerns. It is for housing adjacent to Cumberland State Forest at Pennant Hills and will involve the removal of remnant Blue Gum forest which supports threatened species. It’s a part of the NSW Libs’ push to fast-track “shovel-ready” projects, but this was never one of them. The environmental concerns have still not been addressed. The local community including all council representatives in both Hornsby and The Hills shires have been against this development for years. I’ve seen some terrible things happen in these areas but this takes the cake for a complete lack of regard for community sentiment.
Speedy said:
sarahs mum said:Art and culture is so 70s.
Our present government is more football and speaking in tongues.
Our government today approved a Mirvac development which had previously been refused due to environmental concerns. It is for housing adjacent to Cumberland State Forest at Pennant Hills and will involve the removal of remnant Blue Gum forest which supports threatened species. It’s a part of the NSW Libs’ push to fast-track “shovel-ready” projects, but this was never one of them. The environmental concerns have still not been addressed. The local community including all council representatives in both Hornsby and The Hills shires have been against this development for years. I’ve seen some terrible things happen in these areas but this takes the cake for a complete lack of regard for community sentiment.
:(
Oh….
wench’s walking the larry, and i’ve put the kettle on the flame, after I put enough water in it, didn’t last time apparently
https://amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jun/16/rio-tinto-repeats-apology-for-blasting-46000-year-old-rock-shelter-to-expand-mine
Rio Tinto has repeated its apology to traditional owners for the destruction of a rock shelter that had been occupied for more than 46,000 years, after its iron ore chief executive, Chris Salisbury, reportedly told a staff meeting that the apology was for any distress caused, not an admission the company had done wrong.
According to the Australian Financial Review, which says it heard a recording of a Rio Tinto staff meeting held last Wednesday, Salisbury described the events leading up to the detonation of the site, then said: “That’s why we haven’t apologised for the event itself, per se, but apologised for the distress the event caused.”
‘Heritage of all Australians’: Rio Tinto and BHP in damage control after call for mining halt
He also reassured staff the company maintained the backing of “political leaders of both sides” (despite the federal Labor party forming a Senate inquiry), saying he had “engaged with lots and lots of stakeholders and … quietly, there is still support for us out there”.
sarahs mum said:
https://amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jun/16/rio-tinto-repeats-apology-for-blasting-46000-year-old-rock-shelter-to-expand-mineRio Tinto has repeated its apology to traditional owners for the destruction of a rock shelter that had been occupied for more than 46,000 years, after its iron ore chief executive, Chris Salisbury, reportedly told a staff meeting that the apology was for any distress caused, not an admission the company had done wrong.
According to the Australian Financial Review, which says it heard a recording of a Rio Tinto staff meeting held last Wednesday, Salisbury described the events leading up to the detonation of the site, then said: “That’s why we haven’t apologised for the event itself, per se, but apologised for the distress the event caused.”
‘Heritage of all Australians’: Rio Tinto and BHP in damage control after call for mining haltHe also reassured staff the company maintained the backing of “political leaders of both sides” (despite the federal Labor party forming a Senate inquiry), saying he had “engaged with lots and lots of stakeholders and … quietly, there is still support for us out there”.
would’ve been a few race out to that site in their toyotas for an inspection. Doubt a lot of reporters bother to scratch the paint off their cars for a look either, or their bicycles, all powered by wind or solar I bet too
this country would turn into a backward shithole quickly without mining
transition said:
sarahs mum said:
https://amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jun/16/rio-tinto-repeats-apology-for-blasting-46000-year-old-rock-shelter-to-expand-mineRio Tinto has repeated its apology to traditional owners for the destruction of a rock shelter that had been occupied for more than 46,000 years, after its iron ore chief executive, Chris Salisbury, reportedly told a staff meeting that the apology was for any distress caused, not an admission the company had done wrong.
According to the Australian Financial Review, which says it heard a recording of a Rio Tinto staff meeting held last Wednesday, Salisbury described the events leading up to the detonation of the site, then said: “That’s why we haven’t apologised for the event itself, per se, but apologised for the distress the event caused.”
‘Heritage of all Australians’: Rio Tinto and BHP in damage control after call for mining haltHe also reassured staff the company maintained the backing of “political leaders of both sides” (despite the federal Labor party forming a Senate inquiry), saying he had “engaged with lots and lots of stakeholders and … quietly, there is still support for us out there”.
would’ve been a few race out to that site in their toyotas for an inspection. Doubt a lot of reporters bother to scratch the paint off their cars for a look either, or their bicycles, all powered by wind or solar I bet too
this country would turn into a backward shithole quickly without mining
I like metal.I’m not sure I need it this desperately.
sarahs mum said:
transition said:
sarahs mum said:
https://amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jun/16/rio-tinto-repeats-apology-for-blasting-46000-year-old-rock-shelter-to-expand-mineRio Tinto has repeated its apology to traditional owners for the destruction of a rock shelter that had been occupied for more than 46,000 years, after its iron ore chief executive, Chris Salisbury, reportedly told a staff meeting that the apology was for any distress caused, not an admission the company had done wrong.
According to the Australian Financial Review, which says it heard a recording of a Rio Tinto staff meeting held last Wednesday, Salisbury described the events leading up to the detonation of the site, then said: “That’s why we haven’t apologised for the event itself, per se, but apologised for the distress the event caused.”
‘Heritage of all Australians’: Rio Tinto and BHP in damage control after call for mining haltHe also reassured staff the company maintained the backing of “political leaders of both sides” (despite the federal Labor party forming a Senate inquiry), saying he had “engaged with lots and lots of stakeholders and … quietly, there is still support for us out there”.
would’ve been a few race out to that site in their toyotas for an inspection. Doubt a lot of reporters bother to scratch the paint off their cars for a look either, or their bicycles, all powered by wind or solar I bet too
this country would turn into a backward shithole quickly without mining
I like metal.I’m not sure I need it this desperately.
It’s turning into a shithole because of mining, only a richer shithole with toilet paper.
sarahs mum said:
transition said:
sarahs mum said:
https://amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jun/16/rio-tinto-repeats-apology-for-blasting-46000-year-old-rock-shelter-to-expand-mineRio Tinto has repeated its apology to traditional owners for the destruction of a rock shelter that had been occupied for more than 46,000 years, after its iron ore chief executive, Chris Salisbury, reportedly told a staff meeting that the apology was for any distress caused, not an admission the company had done wrong.
According to the Australian Financial Review, which says it heard a recording of a Rio Tinto staff meeting held last Wednesday, Salisbury described the events leading up to the detonation of the site, then said: “That’s why we haven’t apologised for the event itself, per se, but apologised for the distress the event caused.”
‘Heritage of all Australians’: Rio Tinto and BHP in damage control after call for mining haltHe also reassured staff the company maintained the backing of “political leaders of both sides” (despite the federal Labor party forming a Senate inquiry), saying he had “engaged with lots and lots of stakeholders and … quietly, there is still support for us out there”.
would’ve been a few race out to that site in their toyotas for an inspection. Doubt a lot of reporters bother to scratch the paint off their cars for a look either, or their bicycles, all powered by wind or solar I bet too
this country would turn into a backward shithole quickly without mining
I like metal.I’m not sure I need it this desperately.
iron’s used everywhere, often got a coat of paint on it, if it’s not painted it’s otherwise hidden, in a building structure or whatever for example, it’s in concrete reinforcing, large part of civilization is built with it, supporting the vast expanding population of the earth
point being it’s easy to forget how important it is, who scratches the paint off (the gloss) for a look
so, you know, a person could be saving the world, examining the accidents, or perhaps misdeeds, of those in mining, while surrounded by all the civilizing benefits of the structure it provides
all good, that things are looked at properly by the various interests, those with an interest
the immediate future for Australia, involves mining being even more important, the economy may have to diversify some and do more with the raw product domestically too, so i’m there, that’s where I am
I reckon it’s time to look under the gloss, under the paint, behind the wall, pour some concrete, weld something together
presently news is a like an adverse attention machine, largely repressive
accidents happen, especially with explosives they can, blasting, there are worse types of explosions though, like global overpopulation for example, particularly of some regions, or countries
transition said:
sarahs mum said:
transition said:would’ve been a few race out to that site in their toyotas for an inspection. Doubt a lot of reporters bother to scratch the paint off their cars for a look either, or their bicycles, all powered by wind or solar I bet too
this country would turn into a backward shithole quickly without mining
I like metal.I’m not sure I need it this desperately.
iron’s used everywhere, often got a coat of paint on it, if it’s not painted it’s otherwise hidden, in a building structure or whatever for example, it’s in concrete reinforcing, large part of civilization is built with it, supporting the vast expanding population of the earth
point being it’s easy to forget how important it is, who scratches the paint off (the gloss) for a look
so, you know, a person could be saving the world, examining the accidents, or perhaps misdeeds, of those in mining, while surrounded by all the civilizing benefits of the structure it provides
all good, that things are looked at properly by the various interests, those with an interest
the immediate future for Australia, involves mining being even more important, the economy may have to diversify some and do more with the raw product domestically too, so i’m there, that’s where I am
I reckon it’s time to look under the gloss, under the paint, behind the wall, pour some concrete, weld something together
presently news is a like an adverse attention machine, largely repressive
accidents happen, especially with explosives they can, blasting, there are worse types of explosions though, like global overpopulation for example, particularly of some regions, or countries
not an accident.
sarahs mum said:
transition said:
sarahs mum said:I like metal.I’m not sure I need it this desperately.
iron’s used everywhere, often got a coat of paint on it, if it’s not painted it’s otherwise hidden, in a building structure or whatever for example, it’s in concrete reinforcing, large part of civilization is built with it, supporting the vast expanding population of the earth
point being it’s easy to forget how important it is, who scratches the paint off (the gloss) for a look
so, you know, a person could be saving the world, examining the accidents, or perhaps misdeeds, of those in mining, while surrounded by all the civilizing benefits of the structure it provides
all good, that things are looked at properly by the various interests, those with an interest
the immediate future for Australia, involves mining being even more important, the economy may have to diversify some and do more with the raw product domestically too, so i’m there, that’s where I am
I reckon it’s time to look under the gloss, under the paint, behind the wall, pour some concrete, weld something together
presently news is a like an adverse attention machine, largely repressive
accidents happen, especially with explosives they can, blasting, there are worse types of explosions though, like global overpopulation for example, particularly of some regions, or countries
not an accident.
certainly breeding isn’t, well, mostly
transition said:
sarahs mum said:
transition said:would’ve been a few race out to that site in their toyotas for an inspection. Doubt a lot of reporters bother to scratch the paint off their cars for a look either, or their bicycles, all powered by wind or solar I bet too
this country would turn into a backward shithole quickly without mining
I like metal.I’m not sure I need it this desperately.
iron’s used everywhere, often got a coat of paint on it, if it’s not painted it’s otherwise hidden, in a building structure or whatever for example, it’s in concrete reinforcing, large part of civilization is built with it, supporting the vast expanding population of the earth
point being it’s easy to forget how important it is, who scratches the paint off (the gloss) for a look
so, you know, a person could be saving the world, examining the accidents, or perhaps misdeeds, of those in mining, while surrounded by all the civilizing benefits of the structure it provides
all good, that things are looked at properly by the various interests, those with an interest
the immediate future for Australia, involves mining being even more important, the economy may have to diversify some and do more with the raw product domestically too, so i’m there, that’s where I am
I reckon it’s time to look under the gloss, under the paint, behind the wall, pour some concrete, weld something together
presently news is a like an adverse attention machine, largely repressive
accidents happen, especially with explosives they can, blasting, there are worse types of explosions though, like global overpopulation for example, particularly of some regions, or countries
There is a hell of a lot of iron ore without going anywhere near sacred sites whether Aboriginal or anything else. The dirty word used by all the destroyers of important environmental sites is their “entitlement.” Rio is not Australian and BHP is mostly owned by overseas interests. Given the chance they would strip out everything of value, then go off and do the same thing elsewhere.
Hope you are grateful that we have such a big country to exploit with rich resources that will keep them in the money for years to come. However the even bigger villeins are the state governments that could restrict their vandalism, but don’t in case it means less revenue for them. There are so many arseholes around when it comes to money.
PermeateFree said:
transition said:
sarahs mum said:I like metal.I’m not sure I need it this desperately.
iron’s used everywhere, often got a coat of paint on it, if it’s not painted it’s otherwise hidden, in a building structure or whatever for example, it’s in concrete reinforcing, large part of civilization is built with it, supporting the vast expanding population of the earth
point being it’s easy to forget how important it is, who scratches the paint off (the gloss) for a look
so, you know, a person could be saving the world, examining the accidents, or perhaps misdeeds, of those in mining, while surrounded by all the civilizing benefits of the structure it provides
all good, that things are looked at properly by the various interests, those with an interest
the immediate future for Australia, involves mining being even more important, the economy may have to diversify some and do more with the raw product domestically too, so i’m there, that’s where I am
I reckon it’s time to look under the gloss, under the paint, behind the wall, pour some concrete, weld something together
presently news is a like an adverse attention machine, largely repressive
accidents happen, especially with explosives they can, blasting, there are worse types of explosions though, like global overpopulation for example, particularly of some regions, or countries
There is a hell of a lot of iron ore without going anywhere near sacred sites whether Aboriginal or anything else. The dirty word used by all the destroyers of important environmental sites is their “entitlement.” Rio is not Australian and BHP is mostly owned by overseas interests. Given the chance they would strip out everything of value, then go off and do the same thing elsewhere.
Hope you are grateful that we have such a big country to exploit with rich resources that will keep them in the money for years to come. However the even bigger villeins are the state governments that could restrict their vandalism, but don’t in case it means less revenue for them. There are so many arseholes around when it comes to money.
my view is, that producing things on large scales, is largely alien to many people, perhaps the average person, lot of people have worse than NFI
half the bullshit distortions in the air these days are more to do with a failure to address human overpopulation, dumbest species on the planet when it comes to sensibly limiting its own kind
transition said:
PermeateFree said:
transition said:iron’s used everywhere, often got a coat of paint on it, if it’s not painted it’s otherwise hidden, in a building structure or whatever for example, it’s in concrete reinforcing, large part of civilization is built with it, supporting the vast expanding population of the earth
point being it’s easy to forget how important it is, who scratches the paint off (the gloss) for a look
so, you know, a person could be saving the world, examining the accidents, or perhaps misdeeds, of those in mining, while surrounded by all the civilizing benefits of the structure it provides
all good, that things are looked at properly by the various interests, those with an interest
the immediate future for Australia, involves mining being even more important, the economy may have to diversify some and do more with the raw product domestically too, so i’m there, that’s where I am
I reckon it’s time to look under the gloss, under the paint, behind the wall, pour some concrete, weld something together
presently news is a like an adverse attention machine, largely repressive
accidents happen, especially with explosives they can, blasting, there are worse types of explosions though, like global overpopulation for example, particularly of some regions, or countries
There is a hell of a lot of iron ore without going anywhere near sacred sites whether Aboriginal or anything else. The dirty word used by all the destroyers of important environmental sites is their “entitlement.” Rio is not Australian and BHP is mostly owned by overseas interests. Given the chance they would strip out everything of value, then go off and do the same thing elsewhere.
Hope you are grateful that we have such a big country to exploit with rich resources that will keep them in the money for years to come. However the even bigger villeins are the state governments that could restrict their vandalism, but don’t in case it means less revenue for them. There are so many arseholes around when it comes to money.
my view is, that producing things on large scales, is largely alien to many people, perhaps the average person, lot of people have worse than NFI
half the bullshit distortions in the air these days are more to do with a failure to address human overpopulation, dumbest species on the planet when it comes to sensibly limiting its own kind
Or anything else. If something is there for the taking, regardless of any other value, it will be promptly taken.
PermeateFree said:
transition said:
PermeateFree said:There is a hell of a lot of iron ore without going anywhere near sacred sites whether Aboriginal or anything else. The dirty word used by all the destroyers of important environmental sites is their “entitlement.” Rio is not Australian and BHP is mostly owned by overseas interests. Given the chance they would strip out everything of value, then go off and do the same thing elsewhere.
Hope you are grateful that we have such a big country to exploit with rich resources that will keep them in the money for years to come. However the even bigger villeins are the state governments that could restrict their vandalism, but don’t in case it means less revenue for them. There are so many arseholes around when it comes to money.
my view is, that producing things on large scales, is largely alien to many people, perhaps the average person, lot of people have worse than NFI
half the bullshit distortions in the air these days are more to do with a failure to address human overpopulation, dumbest species on the planet when it comes to sensibly limiting its own kind
Or anything else. If something is there for the taking, regardless of any other value, it will be promptly taken.
well, I (and you possibly) have ideas about what’s good, nice ways, nice environment, like we’re good guys, good people, but my message, if there is one, is that Australia is really going to need optimism into the future, native optimism, not to be endlessly crushed by the adverse attention machine
oneday it could be an asteroid, there are worse things out there, point being you may as well enjoy things, contribute some, optimism
Have we had a conversation here about Richard C?
transition said:
PermeateFree said:
transition said:my view is, that producing things on large scales, is largely alien to many people, perhaps the average person, lot of people have worse than NFI
half the bullshit distortions in the air these days are more to do with a failure to address human overpopulation, dumbest species on the planet when it comes to sensibly limiting its own kind
Or anything else. If something is there for the taking, regardless of any other value, it will be promptly taken.
well, I (and you possibly) have ideas about what’s good, nice ways, nice environment, like we’re good guys, good people, but my message, if there is one, is that Australia is really going to need optimism into the future, native optimism, not to be endlessly crushed by the adverse attention machine
oneday it could be an asteroid, there are worse things out there, point being you may as well enjoy things, contribute some, optimism
What suffices for optimism is pure and simple greed and if enough people can enjoy another moment of pleasure, then it doesn’t matter what else gets fucked up. It’s the Australian way, or didn’t you realise?
Something to laugh at
https://i.imgur.com/FaN7EGm.mp4
dv said:
Have we had a conversation here about Richard C?
they did it seems
dv said:
Have we had a conversation here about Richard C?
Yes.
JudgeMental said:
How the Prime Minister responded to an issue affecting pregnant women in Question Time today:(PREGNANT) MEMBER FOR CANBERRA: Women from the Yass Valley are currently being forced to travel an hour to Canberra or Goulburn to give birth. As a result, a number of women have been forced to give birth on the side of the highway. Does the Prime Minister agree that that is unacceptable?
SCOTT MORRISON: Well, I’m pleased to let the member know that’s why we have committed $150 million to upgrade the Barton Highway.
- with Alicia Payne – Labor for Canberra
Barton who founded the white Australia policy with the immigration restriction act?
transition said:
this country would turn into a backward shithole quickly without mining
Only because we aren’t capable of leading the world because it is easier to dig up stuff that never belonged to us.
transition said:
sarahs mum said:
transition said:would’ve been a few race out to that site in their toyotas for an inspection. Doubt a lot of reporters bother to scratch the paint off their cars for a look either, or their bicycles, all powered by wind or solar I bet too
this country would turn into a backward shithole quickly without mining
I like metal.I’m not sure I need it this desperately.
iron’s used everywhere, often got a coat of paint on it, if it’s not painted it’s otherwise hidden, in a building structure or whatever for example, it’s in concrete reinforcing, large part of civilization is built with it, supporting the vast expanding population of the earth
point being it’s easy to forget how important it is, who scratches the paint off (the gloss) for a look
so, you know, a person could be saving the world, examining the accidents, or perhaps misdeeds, of those in mining, while surrounded by all the civilizing benefits of the structure it provides
all good, that things are looked at properly by the various interests, those with an interest
the immediate future for Australia, involves mining being even more important, the economy may have to diversify some and do more with the raw product domestically too, so i’m there, that’s where I am
I reckon it’s time to look under the gloss, under the paint, behind the wall, pour some concrete, weld something together
presently news is a like an adverse attention machine, largely repressive
accidents happen, especially with explosives they can, blasting, there are worse types of explosions though, like global overpopulation for example, particularly of some regions, or countries
At the same time as we can scratch up iron ore anywhere over most of the country, why do we need to destroy our heritage?
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 6 degrees and getting light. No wind. Our forecast for today is for a sunny morning with rain developing and 16 degrees.
Mr buffy changed over the air filter and the spark plug on my mower yesterday afternoon. We’ll see how it goes soon. He came in and showed me the old spark plug. “Look at that!” Possibly more useful if I had known it shouldn’t have a black tip on the end. For all I knew the tip might be made of something black. So I guess I learned something – mower spark plugs should be silver coloured all over.
dv said:
Have we had a conversation here about Richard C?
Just looked back and found it :(
Richard C was a witty and erudite contributor on the old forum, always enjoyed his company.
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Have we had a conversation here about Richard C?
Just looked back and found it :(
Richard C was a witty and erudite contributor on the old forum, always enjoyed his company.
Yes.
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 6 degrees and getting light. No wind. Our forecast for today is for a sunny morning with rain developing and 16 degrees.Mr buffy changed over the air filter and the spark plug on my mower yesterday afternoon. We’ll see how it goes soon. He came in and showed me the old spark plug. “Look at that!” Possibly more useful if I had known it shouldn’t have a black tip on the end. For all I knew the tip might be made of something black. So I guess I learned something – mower spark plugs should be silver coloured all over.
Nothing a nail file cannot fix.
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 6 degrees and getting light. No wind. Our forecast for today is for a sunny morning with rain developing and 16 degrees.Mr buffy changed over the air filter and the spark plug on my mower yesterday afternoon. We’ll see how it goes soon. He came in and showed me the old spark plug. “Look at that!” Possibly more useful if I had known it shouldn’t have a black tip on the end. For all I knew the tip might be made of something black. So I guess I learned something – mower spark plugs should be silver coloured all over.
Nothing a nail file cannot fix.
Pfft. It was an antique. Replacement is wiser.
Mornin’.
Since I finished the first draft of my novel yesterday, I am giving myself the day off.
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Have we had a conversation here about Richard C?
Just looked back and found it :(
Richard C was a witty and erudite contributor on the old forum, always enjoyed his company.
Yes.
Must have been quite old. He stood for the Dignity Party in the 2018 SA election. Here’s a publicity snap from then:
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 6 degrees and getting light. No wind. Our forecast for today is for a sunny morning with rain developing and 16 degrees.Mr buffy changed over the air filter and the spark plug on my mower yesterday afternoon. We’ll see how it goes soon. He came in and showed me the old spark plug. “Look at that!” Possibly more useful if I had known it shouldn’t have a black tip on the end. For all I knew the tip might be made of something black. So I guess I learned something – mower spark plugs should be silver coloured all over.
Nothing a nail file cannot fix.
Pfft. It was an antique. Replacement is wiser.
By antique, is it 100 years old?
Divine Angel said:
Mornin’.Since I finished the first draft of my novel yesterday, I am giving myself the day off.
Jolly good.
I’ve just scoffed a breakfast of chicken & chips (actually lunch, as I’ve been up since midnight).
Bubblecar said:
Divine Angel said:
Mornin’.Since I finished the first draft of my novel yesterday, I am giving myself the day off.
Jolly good.
I’ve just scoffed a breakfast of chicken & chips (actually lunch, as I’ve been up since midnight).
We slept in til after 7 but luckily Mini Me isn’t in an argumentative mood so we’ve actually got some time to watch TV before school. In one of her usual moods, she would argue with me that she needs breakfast before getting dressed, and hair is last. Today she got dressed while waiting for breakfast, so that’s helpful.
I’m not sure why the govt thinks Communications is an unemployable profession, but whatever. There are still plenty of opportunities for freelance journalism, PR, and social media managers.
Divine Angel said:
Bubblecar said:
Divine Angel said:
Mornin’.Since I finished the first draft of my novel yesterday, I am giving myself the day off.
Jolly good.
I’ve just scoffed a breakfast of chicken & chips (actually lunch, as I’ve been up since midnight).
We slept in til after 7 but luckily Mini Me isn’t in an argumentative mood so we’ve actually got some time to watch TV before school. In one of her usual moods, she would argue with me that she needs breakfast before getting dressed, and hair is last. Today she got dressed while waiting for breakfast, so that’s helpful.
Good to hear, hopefully it’s a trend.
Bubblecar said:
Divine Angel said:
Bubblecar said:Jolly good.
I’ve just scoffed a breakfast of chicken & chips (actually lunch, as I’ve been up since midnight).
We slept in til after 7 but luckily Mini Me isn’t in an argumentative mood so we’ve actually got some time to watch TV before school. In one of her usual moods, she would argue with me that she needs breakfast before getting dressed, and hair is last. Today she got dressed while waiting for breakfast, so that’s helpful.
Good to hear, hopefully it’s a trend.
I like your optimism.
Mr Mutant is also having the day off as his US colleagues are celebrating Juneteenth. He says it’s weird to celebrate an American holiday, but since the company is pushing for people to have long weekends, why not?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juneteenth
Divine Angel said:
Mr Mutant is also having the day off as his US colleagues are celebrating Juneteenth. He says it’s weird to celebrate an American holiday, but since the company is pushing for people to have long weekends, why not?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juneteenth
Texas slaves free day?
I have a proposal.
We’ve lost several forumers and instead of having individual remembrance threads every year, I propose we choose an arbitrary day in which to remember, reflect, and raise a glass to deceased forumers.
I was thinking middle of the year, July 1.
Divine Angel said:
I have a proposal.We’ve lost several forumers and instead of having individual remembrance threads every year, I propose we choose an arbitrary day in which to remember, reflect, and raise a glass to deceased forumers.
I was thinking middle of the year, July 1.
Call it Vera Lynn day if you wish.
Because; We’ll meet again don’t know where don’t know when..
Divine Angel said:
I have a proposal.We’ve lost several forumers and instead of having individual remembrance threads every year, I propose we choose an arbitrary day in which to remember, reflect, and raise a glass to deceased forumers.
I was thinking middle of the year, July 1.
Good idea.
And FNDC, too, etc.
roughbarked said:
Divine Angel said:
Mr Mutant is also having the day off as his US colleagues are celebrating Juneteenth. He says it’s weird to celebrate an American holiday, but since the company is pushing for people to have long weekends, why not?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juneteenth
Texas slaves free day?
Trump Tulsa Ok massacre celebration and campaign day.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Divine Angel said:
Mr Mutant is also having the day off as his US colleagues are celebrating Juneteenth. He says it’s weird to celebrate an American holiday, but since the company is pushing for people to have long weekends, why not?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juneteenth
Texas slaves free day?
Trump Tulsa Ok massacre celebration and campaign day.
So he’s corralled his supporters like Jim Jones of Jonestown?
I was impressed by what Anthony Scaramucci said this morning on ABC news breakfast.
Divine Angel said:
I have a proposal.We’ve lost several forumers and instead of having individual remembrance threads every year, I propose we choose an arbitrary day in which to remember, reflect, and raise a glass to deceased forumers.
I was thinking middle of the year, July 1.
anyone got a running list ¿
On August 24, 1985 Hawkwind were top of the bill at a show raising awareness for the Anti-Heroin Campaign, which was founded by The Who’s Pete Townshend. Also on the line-up were Doctor and the Medics, Spear of Destiny and a bunch of other rock and prog leaning bands and, excitingly, a secret special guest. Though a big hairy man – of which there were many knocking around the 1980s guitar scene – would have been the expected surprise star, forces sweetheart Vera Lynn, who was by then 68 years old, was almost certainly bottom of the list.
So when former Hawkwind member Lemmy – then the legendary frontman of Motörhead – came out to play Brainstorm with the band and their topless dancer Stacia, it was a welcome but hardly shocking event. Mystery headliner Vera Lynn however, was a different matter entirely. But tottering out and bursting into rousing wartime anthem We’ll Meet Again at a heavy rock show might have been the most punk rock thing Vera Lynn ever did.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:Texas slaves free day?
Trump Tulsa Ok massacre celebration and campaign day.
So he’s corralled his supporters like Jim Jones of Jonestown?
DRINK THE KOOL-AID! DRINK THE KOOL-AID!
Righto, I’ve caught up on last night. Had my mocha and bacon sandwich. Better take the dogs for a walk. I met some friends at the bakery and they told me they have bought 2 acres of land up the other side of town. In the rocky bit. They want to run a goat or two and make their own cheese. He is a “retired” market gardener. I told him the land up there is very rocky. He said they were told a portion had been used for potatoes – I’m not sure when that would have been. Anyway, they are happy. They’ve got a gazillion garlics in and lots and lots of broccoli and cabbage at the block where their house is. He is intending to sell his produce, so it looks like he is easing himself out of his market gardening by just growing lots, instead of commercial quantities.
:)
SCIENCE said:
Divine Angel said:
I have a proposal.We’ve lost several forumers and instead of having individual remembrance threads every year, I propose we choose an arbitrary day in which to remember, reflect, and raise a glass to deceased forumers.
I was thinking middle of the year, July 1.
anyone got a running list ¿
OTTOMH Artemis, Geoff D, Stumpy, Richard C, Curve.
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:Trump Tulsa Ok massacre celebration and campaign day.
So he’s corralled his supporters like Jim Jones of Jonestown?
DRINK THE KOOL-AID! DRINK THE KOOL-AID!
:)
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:Trump Tulsa Ok massacre celebration and campaign day.
So he’s corralled his supporters like Jim Jones of Jonestown?
DRINK THE KOOL-AID! DRINK THE KOOL-AID!
Behind the scenes photos of Trump’s cronies mixing bleach and chloroquinine into the kool aid.
Prime Minister Scott Morrison is addressing the media after a government security briefing was held this morning:
“There is a thing happening but we’re not going to tell you how long it has been happening, who is doing it or even what exactly they are doing. Thanks for coming.”
furious said:
Prime Minister Scott Morrison is addressing the media after a government security briefing was held this morning:“There is a thing happening but we’re not going to tell you how long it has been happening, who is doing it or even what exactly they are doing. Thanks for coming.”
He’s always wanted to keep everything secret.
furious said:
Prime Minister Scott Morrison is addressing the media after a government security briefing was held this morning:“There is a thing happening but we’re not going to tell you how long it has been happening, who is doing it or even what exactly they are doing. Thanks for coming.”
This stuff happens all the time so this must be a big one
Divine Angel said:
furious said:
Prime Minister Scott Morrison is addressing the media after a government security briefing was held this morning:“There is a thing happening but we’re not going to tell you how long it has been happening, who is doing it or even what exactly they are doing. Thanks for coming.”
This stuff happens all the time so this must be a big one
I got the vibe the press conference was for the benefit of the “state based actor” i.e. we know you’re doing it. Without having to talk to them directly about it…
furious said:
Divine Angel said:
furious said:
Prime Minister Scott Morrison is addressing the media after a government security briefing was held this morning:“There is a thing happening but we’re not going to tell you how long it has been happening, who is doing it or even what exactly they are doing. Thanks for coming.”
This stuff happens all the time so this must be a big one
I got the vibe the press conference was for the benefit of the “state based actor” i.e. we know you’re doing it. Without having to talk to them directly about it…
Does he think that they’ll stop because of his vague denouncement?
furious said:
Prime Minister Scott Morrison is addressing the media after a government security briefing was held this morning:“There is a thing happening but we’re not going to tell you how long it has been happening, who is doing it or even what exactly they are doing. Thanks for coming.”
captain_spalding said:
furious said:
Divine Angel said:This stuff happens all the time so this must be a big one
I got the vibe the press conference was for the benefit of the “state based actor” i.e. we know you’re doing it. Without having to talk to them directly about it…
Does he think that they’ll stop because of his vague denouncement?
Probably not but the the standard you walk past is the standard you accept…
furious said:
captain_spalding said:
furious said:I got the vibe the press conference was for the benefit of the “state based actor” i.e. we know you’re doing it. Without having to talk to them directly about it…
Does he think that they’ll stop because of his vague denouncement?
Probably not but the the standard you walk past is the standard you accept…
Round up the evidence, Sooty, get it double-checked, and then go public.
Show us the info. Name names.
Bubblecar said:
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:Just looked back and found it :(
Richard C was a witty and erudite contributor on the old forum, always enjoyed his company.
Yes.
Must have been quite old. He stood for the Dignity Party in the 2018 SA election. Here’s a publicity snap from then:
Nice photo, and event to remember him by.
I didn’t even know there was a Dignity party, but it seems most appropriate for Richard C.
furious said:
Prime Minister Scott Morrison is addressing the media after a government security briefing was held this morning:“There is a thing happening but we’re not going to tell you how long it has been happening, who is doing it or even what exactly they are doing. Thanks for coming.”
¿réf
SCIENCE said:
furious said:
Prime Minister Scott Morrison is addressing the media after a government security briefing was held this morning:“There is a thing happening but we’re not going to tell you how long it has been happening, who is doing it or even what exactly they are doing. Thanks for coming.”
¿réf
Umm.. the media conference…
furious said:
SCIENCE said:
furious said:
Prime Minister Scott Morrison is addressing the media after a government security briefing was held this morning:“There is a thing happening but we’re not going to tell you how long it has been happening, who is doing it or even what exactly they are doing. Thanks for coming.”
¿réf
Umm.. the media conference…
we weren’t there, how do we view
SCIENCE said:
furious said:
SCIENCE said:¿réf
Umm.. the media conference…
we weren’t there, how do we view
I watched (most of) it on ABC News via iView…
ok give us a bit to get up to speed
Divine Angel said:
SCIENCE said:
Divine Angel said:
I have a proposal.We’ve lost several forumers and instead of having individual remembrance threads every year, I propose we choose an arbitrary day in which to remember, reflect, and raise a glass to deceased forumers.
I was thinking middle of the year, July 1.
anyone got a running list ¿
OTTOMH Artemis, Geoff D, Stumpy, Richard C, Curve.
so you want to take our five designated drinking days down to one…
what sort of monster are you?
Arts said:
Divine Angel said:
SCIENCE said:anyone got a running list ¿
OTTOMH Artemis, Geoff D, Stumpy, Richard C, Curve.
so you want to take our five designated drinking days down to one…
what sort of monster are you?
Well, she said to start it on July 1, not when to finish it…
Arts said:
Divine Angel said:
SCIENCE said:anyone got a running list ¿
OTTOMH Artemis, Geoff D, Stumpy, Richard C, Curve.
so you want to take our five designated drinking days down to one…
what sort of monster are you?
Dry July?
Morning pilgrims, I’ve been out mingling with the community, normal folk who don’t seem outraged about much at all.
Anyway I’m in here now.
Arts said:
Divine Angel said:
SCIENCE said:anyone got a running list ¿
OTTOMH Artemis, Geoff D, Stumpy, Richard C, Curve.
so you want to take our five designated drinking days down to one…
what sort of monster are you?
Divine Angel said:
this just gets worse..
Arts said:
Divine Angel said:OTTOMH Artemis, Geoff D, Stumpy, Richard C, Curve.
so you want to take our five designated drinking days down to one…
what sort of monster are you?
Dry July?
Tamb said:
Arts said:
Divine Angel said:OTTOMH Artemis, Geoff D, Stumpy, Richard C, Curve.
so you want to take our five designated drinking days down to one…
what sort of monster are you?
I’d prefer to keep individual days These are individual friends not just a job lot.
actually I quite like the idea of a HFMemorial Day.. I just wanted to pour some outrage out there so everyone would be happier.
Arts said:
Tamb said:
Arts said:so you want to take our five designated drinking days down to one…
what sort of monster are you?
I’d prefer to keep individual days These are individual friends not just a job lot.actually I quite like the idea of a HFMemorial Day.. I just wanted to pour some outrage out there so everyone would be happier.
What was the date the original forum died? Should make it that day…
Arts said:
Tamb said:
Arts said:so you want to take our five designated drinking days down to one…
what sort of monster are you?
I’d prefer to keep individual days These are individual friends not just a job lot.actually I quite like the idea of a HFMemorial Day.. I just wanted to pour some outrage out there so everyone would be happier.
furious said:
Arts said:
Tamb said:I’d prefer to keep individual days These are individual friends not just a job lot.
actually I quite like the idea of a HFMemorial Day.. I just wanted to pour some outrage out there so everyone would be happier.
What was the date the original forum died? Should make it that day…
yes… the day the forum died…
Tamb said:
Arts said:
Tamb said:I’d prefer to keep individual days These are individual friends not just a job lot.
actually I quite like the idea of a HFMemorial Day.. I just wanted to pour some outrage out there so everyone would be happier.
Whatever happened to Outrage Bus?
curve.
Arts said:
furious said:
Arts said:actually I quite like the idea of a HFMemorial Day.. I just wanted to pour some outrage out there so everyone would be happier.
What was the date the original forum died? Should make it that day…
yes… the day the forum died…
Arts said:
furious said:
Arts said:actually I quite like the idea of a HFMemorial Day.. I just wanted to pour some outrage out there so everyone would be happier.
What was the date the original forum died? Should make it that day…
yes… the day the forum died…
+1
furious said:
Arts said:
Tamb said:I’d prefer to keep individual days These are individual friends not just a job lot.
actually I quite like the idea of a HFMemorial Day.. I just wanted to pour some outrage out there so everyone would be happier.
What was the date the original forum died? Should make it that day…
We should be pulling down statues of Nick Ross.
Arts said:
Tamb said:
Arts said:actually I quite like the idea of a HFMemorial Day.. I just wanted to pour some outrage out there so everyone would be happier.
Whatever happened to Outrage Bus?curve.
Thanks. I’d forgotten
Tamb said:
Arts said:
Tamb said:Whatever happened to Outrage Bus?
curve.
Thanks. I’d forgotten
I thought Outrage Bus was The Colonel?
Divine Angel said:
Tamb said:
Arts said:curve.
Thanks. I’d forgotten
I thought Outrage Bus was The Colonel?
actually I think you are correct.
I laughed…
So, uh, does anyone know The Day The Forum Died?
Divine Angel said:
So, uh, does anyone know The Day The Forum Died?
If you hum a few bars I’ll fake it
dv said:
Divine Angel said:
So, uh, does anyone know The Day The Forum Died?
If you hum a few bars I’ll fake it
We can’t drive Holdens to the Levee anyway.
dv said:
Divine Angel said:
So, uh, does anyone know The Day The Forum Died?
If you hum a few bars I’ll fake it
All I know is that the levee was dry.
Granddaughter did a three point landing. Face and hands. Split lip and broken arm.
Divine Angel said:
dv said:
Divine Angel said:
So, uh, does anyone know The Day The Forum Died?
If you hum a few bars I’ll fake it
All I know is that the levee was dry.
In July?
They only took down the SSSF forum link last year I think, you could still visit the forums and read the threads.
roughbarked said:
Divine Angel said:
dv said:If you hum a few bars I’ll fake it
All I know is that the levee was dry.
In July?
roughbarked said:
Granddaughter did a three point landing. Face and hands. Split lip and broken arm.
Oh no!
Divine Angel said:
roughbarked said:
Granddaughter did a three point landing. Face and hands. Split lip and broken arm.
Oh no!
Tried to tell her that scars are awesome. They tell stories and add character.
Divine Angel said:
So, uh, does anyone know The Day The Forum Died?
August 12
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning pilgrims, I’ve been out mingling with the community, normal folk who don’t seem outraged about much at all.
Anyway I’m in here now.
phew
After mingling, please keep your distance. Any symptoms, even the mildest of symptoms, pleas go get the COVID-19 test.
Divine Angel said:
roughbarked said:
Granddaughter did a three point landing. Face and hands. Split lip and broken arm.
Oh no!
Damn, that’s rough
Arts said:
Tamb said:
Arts said:actually I quite like the idea of a HFMemorial Day.. I just wanted to pour some outrage out there so everyone would be happier.
Whatever happened to Outrage Bus?curve.
TOB was the last handle of a SSSF poster. Was also The Colonel before my time.
roughbarked said:
Granddaughter did a three point landing. Face and hands. Split lip and broken arm.
Hopie did that and became famous.
roughbarked said:
Granddaughter did a three point landing. Face and hands. Split lip and broken arm.
Nasty.
Tamb said:
Arts said:
Tamb said:I’d prefer to keep individual days These are individual friends not just a job lot.
actually I quite like the idea of a HFMemorial Day.. I just wanted to pour some outrage out there so everyone would be happier.
Whatever happened to Outrage Bus?
Unfortunately, he is on the list. AwesomeO/Curve.
roughbarked said:
Divine Angel said:
roughbarked said:
Granddaughter did a three point landing. Face and hands. Split lip and broken arm.
Oh no!
Tried to tell her that scars are awesome. They tell stories and add character.
so when she was five my daughter fell and split her lip on the corner of her mouth.. the doctor took one look at it and went “I’m not touching that, it has gone past the lip line.. to the hospital with you”. at the children’s hospital they operated at 2am… they called in the plastic surgery team who did an amazing job, you can barely tell she even hurt herself… but it took about 21 stitches, they explain the layers of stitching they had to do.. I guess what I am trying to say is.. unless you want the horrible scarring, she should probably be seen by experts…
Divine Angel said:
Arts said:
furious said:What was the date the original forum died? Should make it that day…
yes… the day the forum died…
+1
Don McLean day…
Michael V said:
Tamb said:
Arts said:actually I quite like the idea of a HFMemorial Day.. I just wanted to pour some outrage out there so everyone would be happier.
Whatever happened to Outrage Bus?Unfortunately, he is on the list. AwesomeO/Curve.
Was his name IRLGarth?
Witty Rejoinder said:
Michael V said:
Tamb said:Whatever happened to Outrage Bus?
Unfortunately, he is on the list. AwesomeO/Curve.
Was his name IRLGarth?
I was mistaken the Outrage Bus handle belonged to the colonel .. but I believe Curve had something to do with starting the meme in sssf.
Arts said:
roughbarked said:
Divine Angel said:Oh no!
Tried to tell her that scars are awesome. They tell stories and add character.
so when she was five my daughter fell and split her lip on the corner of her mouth.. the doctor took one look at it and went “I’m not touching that, it has gone past the lip line.. to the hospital with you”. at the children’s hospital they operated at 2am… they called in the plastic surgery team who did an amazing job, you can barely tell she even hurt herself… but it took about 21 stitches, they explain the layers of stitching they had to do.. I guess what I am trying to say is.. unless you want the horrible scarring, she should probably be seen by experts…
This photo is from the hospital where she is awaiting the plastic surgeon on a dry fast. She complained of being hungry.
roughbarked said:
Arts said:
roughbarked said:Tried to tell her that scars are awesome. They tell stories and add character.
so when she was five my daughter fell and split her lip on the corner of her mouth.. the doctor took one look at it and went “I’m not touching that, it has gone past the lip line.. to the hospital with you”. at the children’s hospital they operated at 2am… they called in the plastic surgery team who did an amazing job, you can barely tell she even hurt herself… but it took about 21 stitches, they explain the layers of stitching they had to do.. I guess what I am trying to say is.. unless you want the horrible scarring, she should probably be seen by experts…
This photo is from the hospital where she is awaiting the plastic surgeon on a dry fast. She complained of being hungry.
excellent. hope she recovers quickly.
Peak Warming Man said:
furious said:
Arts said:actually I quite like the idea of a HFMemorial Day.. I just wanted to pour some outrage out there so everyone would be happier.
What was the date the original forum died? Should make it that day…
We should be pulling down statues of Nick Ross.
Yes!
Arts said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Michael V said:Unfortunately, he is on the list. AwesomeO/Curve.
Was his name IRLGarth?
I was mistaken the Outrage Bus handle belonged to the colonel .. but I believe Curve had something to do with starting the meme in sssf.
He revealed his real name to the forum during his last ditch ramblings.
Arts said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Michael V said:Unfortunately, he is on the list. AwesomeO/Curve.
Was his name IRLGarth?
I was mistaken the Outrage Bus handle belonged to the colonel .. but I believe Curve had something to do with starting the meme in sssf.
Yeah Curve invented it as a phrase.
roughbarked said:
Arts said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Was his name IRLGarth?
I was mistaken the Outrage Bus handle belonged to the colonel .. but I believe Curve had something to do with starting the meme in sssf.
He revealed his real name to the forum during his last ditch ramblings.
that’s not … sigh
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
furious said:What was the date the original forum died? Should make it that day…
We should be pulling down statues of Nick Ross.
Yes!
I really don’t understand the vitriol about NR. He was just trying to do his best about a bad situation IMO.
roughbarked said:
Divine Angel said:
roughbarked said:
Granddaughter did a three point landing. Face and hands. Split lip and broken arm.
Oh no!
Tried to tell her that scars are awesome. They tell stories and add character.
Kids heal remarkably well. She my not have any scars, or, at least, any that are easily noticed.
roughbarked said:
Granddaughter did a three point landing. Face and hands. Split lip and broken arm.
Ouch. Bugger.
:(
Witty Rejoinder said:
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:We should be pulling down statues of Nick Ross.
Yes!
I really don’t understand the vitriol about NR. He was just trying to do his best about a bad situation IMO.
I agree…
Witty Rejoinder said:
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:We should be pulling down statues of Nick Ross.
Yes!
I really don’t understand the vitriol about NR. He was just trying to do his best about a bad situation IMO.
Yes.
Arts said:
roughbarked said:
Divine Angel said:Oh no!
Tried to tell her that scars are awesome. They tell stories and add character.
so when she was five my daughter fell and split her lip on the corner of her mouth.. the doctor took one look at it and went “I’m not touching that, it has gone past the lip line.. to the hospital with you”. at the children’s hospital they operated at 2am… they called in the plastic surgery team who did an amazing job, you can barely tell she even hurt herself… but it took about 21 stitches, they explain the layers of stitching they had to do.. I guess what I am trying to say is.. unless you want the horrible scarring, she should probably be seen by experts…
I was assuming that experts had been called in.
roughbarked said:
Arts said:
roughbarked said:Tried to tell her that scars are awesome. They tell stories and add character.
so when she was five my daughter fell and split her lip on the corner of her mouth.. the doctor took one look at it and went “I’m not touching that, it has gone past the lip line.. to the hospital with you”. at the children’s hospital they operated at 2am… they called in the plastic surgery team who did an amazing job, you can barely tell she even hurt herself… but it took about 21 stitches, they explain the layers of stitching they had to do.. I guess what I am trying to say is.. unless you want the horrible scarring, she should probably be seen by experts…
This photo is from the hospital where she is awaiting the plastic surgeon on a dry fast. She complained of being hungry.
Whew. Experts are involved.
Michael V said:
Tamb said:
Arts said:actually I quite like the idea of a HFMemorial Day.. I just wanted to pour some outrage out there so everyone would be happier.
Whatever happened to Outrage Bus?Unfortunately, he is on the list. AwesomeO/Curve.
OK, I am wrong. Curve just invented the notion of “all aboard the Outrage Bus”.
captain_spalding said:
Arts said:
roughbarked said:Tried to tell her that scars are awesome. They tell stories and add character.
so when she was five my daughter fell and split her lip on the corner of her mouth.. the doctor took one look at it and went “I’m not touching that, it has gone past the lip line.. to the hospital with you”. at the children’s hospital they operated at 2am… they called in the plastic surgery team who did an amazing job, you can barely tell she even hurt herself… but it took about 21 stitches, they explain the layers of stitching they had to do.. I guess what I am trying to say is.. unless you want the horrible scarring, she should probably be seen by experts…
I was assuming that experts had been called in.
yes, I assumed, from roughy comment, that they hadn’t.. this is National Assumption day.. so strap yourself in and get ready to be mad.
roughbarked said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Michael V said:Yes!
I really don’t understand the vitriol about NR. He was just trying to do his best about a bad situation IMO.
Yes.
What is the Nick Ross news?
Found it:
23rd April 2012 and, apart from a filthy moderator, Richard C was indeed the last to post:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-19/nsw-police-arrest-landlord-who-allegedly-held-tenant-hostage/12372482
Arts said:
roughbarked said:Tried to tell her that scars are awesome. They tell stories and add character.
so when she was five my daughter fell and split her lip on the corner of her mouth.. the doctor took one look at it and went “I’m not touching that, it has gone past the lip line.. to the hospital with you”. at the children’s hospital they operated at 2am… they called in the plastic surgery team who did an amazing job, you can barely tell she even hurt herself… but it took about 21 stitches, they explain the layers of stitching they had to do.. I guess what I am trying to say is.. unless you want the horrible scarring, she should probably be seen by experts…
I copped something similar when I was about ten. Opened the lip & about 15mm of chin below it. I fell asleep in the waiting room at the hospital so the plastic sewed it up without anaesthesia. I can just see the scar now, because I know exactly where to look, but it’s effectively invisible.
>sigh<
Fuck. I thought it was Saturday.
:-(
Arts said:
Divine Angel said:
Tamb said:Thanks. I’d forgotten
I thought Outrage Bus was The Colonel?
actually I think you are correct.
Also my memory of it.
Rule 303 said:
I was a member of SSSF for a long time but I don’t remember The Colonel. Was he SSSF?
Arts said:
Divine Angel said:I thought Outrage Bus was The Colonel?
actually I think you are correct.
Also my memory of it.
Tamb said:
Rule 303 said:I was a member of SSSF for a long time but I don’t remember The Colonel. Was he SSSF?
Arts said:actually I think you are correct.
Also my memory of it.
yes, for a long time
Tamb said:
Rule 303 said:I was a member of SSSF for a long time but I don’t remember The Colonel. Was he SSSF?
Arts said:actually I think you are correct.
Also my memory of it.
Yes.
Arts said:
Tamb said:
Rule 303 said:I was a member of SSSF for a long time but I don’t remember The Colonel. Was he SSSF?Also my memory of it.
yes, for a long time
Dunno if this has already been done, by I would like to express my admiration to Arts for being offered a Rhodes Scholar position. I have never even heard of it being offered to a non-male person before.
Whether you take it up or not, please accept my hearty congratulations.
Rule 303 said:
Dunno if this has already been done, by I would like to express my admiration to Arts for being offered a Rhodes Scholar position. I have never even heard of it being offered to a non-male person before.Whether you take it up or not, please accept my hearty congratulations.
Hear hear.
roughbarked said:
Rule 303 said:
Dunno if this has already been done, by I would like to express my admiration to Arts for being offered a Rhodes Scholar position. I have never even heard of it being offered to a non-male person before.Whether you take it up or not, please accept my hearty congratulations.
Hear hear.
+1
Rule 303 said:
Dunno if this has already been done, by I would like to express my admiration to Arts for being offered a Rhodes Scholar position. I have never even heard of it being offered to a non-male person before.Whether you take it up or not, please accept my hearty congratulations.
+1
Rule 303 said:
Dunno if this has already been done, by I would like to express my admiration to Arts for being offered a Rhodes Scholar position. I have never even heard of it being offered to a non-male person before.Whether you take it up or not, please accept my hearty congratulations.
seriously? I think they just hand them out to anyone these days.. there have been plenty of female Rhodes scholars.
Arts said:
In 1977, women were finally admitted to the full scholarship. To a large degree, this change was the result of the advances of the feminist movement as well as the importance of Title IX legislation in the United States that made illegal sex discrimination in colleges that received federal financial assistance.
Rule 303 said:
Dunno if this has already been done, by I would like to express my admiration to Arts for being offered a Rhodes Scholar position. I have never even heard of it being offered to a non-male person before.Whether you take it up or not, please accept my hearty congratulations.
seriously? I think they just hand them out to anyone these days.. there have been plenty of female Rhodes scholars.
Arts said:
Rule 303 said:
Dunno if this has already been done, by I would like to express my admiration to Arts for being offered a Rhodes Scholar position. I have never even heard of it being offered to a non-male person before.Whether you take it up or not, please accept my hearty congratulations.
seriously? I think they just hand them out to anyone these days.. there have been plenty of female Rhodes scholars.
In 1977, twenty-four women arrived in Oxford as the first female Rhodes Scholars. Thirty years later, 878 more have made this same journey.
Tamb said:
Arts said:
Rule 303 said:
Dunno if this has already been done, by I would like to express my admiration to Arts for being offered a Rhodes Scholar position. I have never even heard of it being offered to a non-male person before.Whether you take it up or not, please accept my hearty congratulations.
seriously? I think they just hand them out to anyone these days.. there have been plenty of female Rhodes scholars.
In 1977, twenty-four women arrived in Oxford as the first female Rhodes Scholars. Thirty years later, 878 more have made this same journey.
Yeah, but how many of them could drink a yard of ale in 11 seconds?!
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
Rule 303 said:
Dunno if this has already been done, by I would like to express my admiration to Arts for being offered a Rhodes Scholar position. I have never even heard of it being offered to a non-male person before.Whether you take it up or not, please accept my hearty congratulations.
Hear hear.
+1
Well done.
barbara’s had breakfast, eats as much as a person, where’s she put it
coffee done
few spots of precipitation, didn’t qualify as rain, drops didn’t join up on the ground
transition said:
barbara’s had breakfast, eats as much as a person, where’s she put itcoffee done
few spots of precipitation, didn’t qualify as rain, drops didn’t join up on the ground
16.4mm here
Tamb said:
transition said:
barbara’s had breakfast, eats as much as a person, where’s she put itcoffee done
few spots of precipitation, didn’t qualify as rain, drops didn’t join up on the ground
16.4mm here
We got 1 mm in the 24 hours to 9 am today.

Michael V said:
Tamb said:
transition said:
barbara’s had breakfast, eats as much as a person, where’s she put itcoffee done
few spots of precipitation, didn’t qualify as rain, drops didn’t join up on the ground
16.4mm here
We got 1 mm in the 24 hours to 9 am today.
I average 32.1mm for June. So far I have 28.6 so it looks like a slightly above average month.
Today’s trivia.
Get-up want me to join them in their outrage that my tax money is being donated to Pauline Hanson so she can eat fish and chips.
Now whilst I don’t particularly want to pay for Pauline’s fish and chips, surely there are more serious things to be outraged about?
Michael V said:
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:Hear hear.
+1
Well done.
WOO HOO!
Arts said:
:(
The Rev Dodgson said:
Today’s trivia.Get-up want me to join them in their outrage that my tax money is being donated to Pauline Hanson so she can eat fish and chips.
Now whilst I don’t particularly want to pay for Pauline’s fish and chips, surely there are more serious things to be outraged about?
Things to be outraged about? Yes there is. Incovenience being one of them.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Today’s trivia.Get-up want me to join them in their outrage that my tax money is being donated to Pauline Hanson so she can eat fish and chips.
Now whilst I don’t particularly want to pay for Pauline’s fish and chips, surely there are more serious things to be outraged about?
My email says it is because of who she was eating the fish and chips with but does not suggest who it was she ate with.
sarahs mum said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Today’s trivia.Get-up want me to join them in their outrage that my tax money is being donated to Pauline Hanson so she can eat fish and chips.
Now whilst I don’t particularly want to pay for Pauline’s fish and chips, surely there are more serious things to be outraged about?
My email says it is because of who she was eating the fish and chips with but does not suggest who it was she ate with.
Was it this?
Pauline Hanson charged taxpayers for three-day Perth fundraising spree
“Exclusive: the One Nation leader held a ‘fish and chip’ fundraiser, which attracted the support of far-right extremist group the Proud Boys”
Dame Vera Lynn has died
The Rev Dodgson said:
Today’s trivia.Get-up want me to join them in their outrage that my tax money is being donated to Pauline Hanson so she can eat fish and chips.
Now whilst I don’t particularly want to pay for Pauline’s fish and chips, surely there are more serious things to be outraged about?
What kind of fish was it? Did it come from a sustainable fishery….
was it whiting or orange roughy perhaps?
The Rev Dodgson said:
Today’s trivia.Get-up want me to join them in their outrage that my tax money is being donated to Pauline Hanson so she can eat fish and chips.
Now whilst I don’t particularly want to pay for Pauline’s fish and chips, surely there are more serious things to be outraged about?
I am unaware of this campaign. Got a link?
According to Mr Bolton, intelligence briefings were not “terribly useful” since during most of them “he spoke at greater length than the briefers, often on matters completely unrelated to the subjects at hand”.
—-
That sounds about right
I’m lying on the couch watching a movie called How to Plan an Orgy In a Small Town and Jellybean decided I look like a comfortable pillow.
700 million men and boys: China builds mega DNA surveillance database
By Sui-Lee Wee
June 18, 2020 — 2.33pm
Beijing: Police are collecting blood samples from men and boys from across China to build a genetic map of its roughly 700 million males, giving authorities a powerful new tool for an emerging high-tech surveillance state.
Police have swept across the country since late 2017 to collect enough samples to build a vast DNA database, according to a new study published on Wednesday by the Australian Strategic Policy Institute, a research organisation, based on documents also reviewed by The New York Times. With this database, authorities would be able to track down a man’s male relatives using his blood, saliva or other genetic material.
https://www.theage.com.au/world/asia/700-million-men-and-boys-china-builds-mega-dna-surveillance-database-20200618-p553vz.html
Tamb said:
Arts said:
Rule 303 said:
Dunno if this has already been done, by I would like to express my admiration to Arts for being offered a Rhodes Scholar position. I have never even heard of it being offered to a non-male person before.Whether you take it up or not, please accept my hearty congratulations.
seriously? I think they just hand them out to anyone these days.. there have been plenty of female Rhodes scholars.
In 1977, twenty-four women arrived in Oxford as the first female Rhodes Scholars. Thirty years later, 878 more have made this same journey.
and yet only 51 women have been awarded Nobel prizes.
Witty Rejoinder said:
700 million men and boys: China builds mega DNA surveillance database
By Sui-Lee Wee
June 18, 2020 — 2.33pmBeijing: Police are collecting blood samples from men and boys from across China to build a genetic map of its roughly 700 million males, giving authorities a powerful new tool for an emerging high-tech surveillance state.
Police have swept across the country since late 2017 to collect enough samples to build a vast DNA database, according to a new study published on Wednesday by the Australian Strategic Policy Institute, a research organisation, based on documents also reviewed by The New York Times. With this database, authorities would be able to track down a man’s male relatives using his blood, saliva or other genetic material.
https://www.theage.com.au/world/asia/700-million-men-and-boys-china-builds-mega-dna-surveillance-database-20200618-p553vz.html
The Chinese government’s promise to its people:
We will give you the chance to be prosperous.
In exchange, you will not seek to be free.
Ever.
sarahs mum said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Today’s trivia.Get-up want me to join them in their outrage that my tax money is being donated to Pauline Hanson so she can eat fish and chips.
Now whilst I don’t particularly want to pay for Pauline’s fish and chips, surely there are more serious things to be outraged about?
My email says it is because of who she was eating the fish and chips with but does not suggest who it was she ate with.
I confess to not actually reading the e-mail.
Greetings
furious said:
- We should be pulling down statues of Nick Ross.
I laughed…
So did I.
buffy said:
furious said:
- We should be pulling down statues of Nick Ross.
I laughed…
So did I.
If we cannot laugh, life would only be duller.
I’ve been doing a spot of mowing, now I’ll have some lunch and might head up the great dividing range.
People are different at the top of the range although Spalding C is an outlier.
Peak Warming Man said:
I’ve been doing a spot of mowing, now I’ll have some lunch and might head up the great dividing range.
People are different at the top of the range although Spalding C is an outlier.
Copycat. Although some of what I was doing was Earthworks by Mower. I have tidied up this:
Now looks like this:
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I’ve been doing a spot of mowing, now I’ll have some lunch and might head up the great dividing range.
People are different at the top of the range although Spalding C is an outlier.
Copycat. Although some of what I was doing was Earthworks by Mower. I have tidied up this:
Now looks like this:
>>Earthworks by Mower
hits head on desk
If you draw/painted the planets of the solar system would you still include Pluto
Cymek said:
If you draw/painted the planets of the solar system would you still include Pluto
Cymek said:
If you draw/painted the planets of the solar system would you still include Pluto
Not in its own right with the other planets, no. Only if I was trying to include other non-planet objects – it would be lumped in with them.
BTW, I heard a new planets mnemonic on QI: Mary’s Virgin Explanation made Joseph suspect upstairs neighbour.
For people who know what Everesting is, the young Australian bloke (Lachlan Morton) who just smashed the world record has had it stripped because of a discrepancy in the Strava file Vs actual altitude gain.
And now it’s too close to the European season for him to try again this year.
He’ll be spewing.
I found out yesterday this about the watch company name Movado:
1905 The Swiss watch company L.A.I. Ditesheim registers the term “Movado ‘(Esperanto: always in motion) as company name.
Wonder how many other Esperanto terms were used outside Esperantujo ?
Now they are shooting cops in Aukland?
Another scare campaign?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-19/cyber-attack-no-australian-government-organisations-explained/12373190
As i see someone here mentioned earlier…a press conference about shadows. Which might or might not be there. Pointless.
buffy said:
Another scare campaign?https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-19/cyber-attack-no-australian-government-organisations-explained/12373190
As i see someone here mentioned earlier…a press conference about shadows. Which might or might not be there. Pointless.
The government agencies are starting to send out internal warnings like this:
What do I need to do?
Be extremely vigilant to anything out of the ordinary:
• If you receive an email that you’re not expecting or you are suspicious of (even from somebody within the organisation):
o DON’T action the email. This means:
DON’T click on any links
DON’T forward the email
DON’T reply to the email
• If you receive a phone call from a number you don’t recognise:
o DON’T answer it. Let it go through to voicemail so you can then determine if it is a legitimate phone call or not.
o DON’T provide any user credentials such login or password details.
• If you receive a text message from a number you don’t recognise:
o DON’T click on any links
o DON’T forward the message
o DON’T reply to the message
Not that anybody in a government department would be trying to use a computer on a Friday, anyway….
buffy said:
Another scare campaign?https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-19/cyber-attack-no-australian-government-organisations-explained/12373190
As i see someone here mentioned earlier…a press conference about shadows. Which might or might not be there. Pointless.
I wonder if we’d be better off creating our own cyberwarfare unit (probably already have one but if not) than spending money on actual weapons that are likely to not be used
It’s local employment and not subject to much maintenance or becoming obsolete in a decades time
Rule 303 said:
buffy said:
Another scare campaign?https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-19/cyber-attack-no-australian-government-organisations-explained/12373190
As i see someone here mentioned earlier…a press conference about shadows. Which might or might not be there. Pointless.
The government agencies are starting to send out internal warnings like this:
What do I need to do?
Be extremely vigilant to anything out of the ordinary:
• If you receive an email that you’re not expecting or you are suspicious of (even from somebody within the organisation):
o DON’T action the email. This means:
DON’T click on any links
DON’T forward the email
DON’T reply to the email• If you receive a phone call from a number you don’t recognise:
o DON’T answer it. Let it go through to voicemail so you can then determine if it is a legitimate phone call or not.
o DON’T provide any user credentials such login or password details.• If you receive a text message from a number you don’t recognise:
o DON’T click on any links
o DON’T forward the message
o DON’T reply to the message
Yes we got one about 30 minutes a go
Rule 303 said:
buffy said:
Another scare campaign?https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-19/cyber-attack-no-australian-government-organisations-explained/12373190
As i see someone here mentioned earlier…a press conference about shadows. Which might or might not be there. Pointless.
The government agencies are starting to send out internal warnings like this:
What do I need to do?
Be extremely vigilant to anything out of the ordinary:
• If you receive an email that you’re not expecting or you are suspicious of (even from somebody within the organisation):
o DON’T action the email. This means:
DON’T click on any links
DON’T forward the email
DON’T reply to the email• If you receive a phone call from a number you don’t recognise:
o DON’T answer it. Let it go through to voicemail so you can then determine if it is a legitimate phone call or not.
o DON’T provide any user credentials such login or password details.• If you receive a text message from a number you don’t recognise:
o DON’T click on any links
o DON’T forward the message
o DON’T reply to the message
Accidentally answered a call. Realised it wasn’t for me, disconnected & blocked. Duration of call 12 seconds. Hope I’m OK.
Cymek said:
Rule 303 said:
buffy said:
Another scare campaign?https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-19/cyber-attack-no-australian-government-organisations-explained/12373190
As i see someone here mentioned earlier…a press conference about shadows. Which might or might not be there. Pointless.
The government agencies are starting to send out internal warnings like this:
What do I need to do?
Be extremely vigilant to anything out of the ordinary:
• If you receive an email that you’re not expecting or you are suspicious of (even from somebody within the organisation):
o DON’T action the email. This means:
DON’T click on any links
DON’T forward the email
DON’T reply to the email• If you receive a phone call from a number you don’t recognise:
o DON’T answer it. Let it go through to voicemail so you can then determine if it is a legitimate phone call or not.
o DON’T provide any user credentials such login or password details.• If you receive a text message from a number you don’t recognise:
o DON’T click on any links
o DON’T forward the message
o DON’T reply to the messageYes we got one about 30 minutes a go
I have been sending E-mails to a couple of departments and not getting any response, and I can’t see them in the ‘Sent’ section of either my mail software or web-based mail server. That is, from my end I can’t tell that the E-mails have been sent.
I just rang one of the blokes I’m E-mailing and he assures me he’s got three messages from me in the last 24 hours, and answers the question I was E-mailing about, then wants to chin-wag for five minutes.
Yeoup…
Round and round and round we go. I think new mothers in the 1960s were advised to give their babies half an hour outside every day. In the Summer it was done in the morning, with only a nappy on. I’m a bit hazy. I was a child in the 1960s.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-19/allergies-trial-to-test-vitamin-d-on-children-and-infants/12372224
Tamb said:
Rule 303 said:
buffy said:
Another scare campaign?https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-19/cyber-attack-no-australian-government-organisations-explained/12373190
As i see someone here mentioned earlier…a press conference about shadows. Which might or might not be there. Pointless.
The government agencies are starting to send out internal warnings like this:
What do I need to do?
Be extremely vigilant to anything out of the ordinary:
• If you receive an email that you’re not expecting or you are suspicious of (even from somebody within the organisation):
o DON’T action the email. This means:
DON’T click on any links
DON’T forward the email
DON’T reply to the email• If you receive a phone call from a number you don’t recognise:
o DON’T answer it. Let it go through to voicemail so you can then determine if it is a legitimate phone call or not.
o DON’T provide any user credentials such login or password details.• If you receive a text message from a number you don’t recognise:
o DON’T click on any links
o DON’T forward the message
o DON’T reply to the messageAccidentally answered a call. Realised it wasn’t for me, disconnected & blocked. Duration of call 12 seconds. Hope I’m OK.
Drone possibly on it way, may have gotten a partial location lock, wear tin foil hat to be sure
Cymek said:
Tamb said:
Rule 303 said:The government agencies are starting to send out internal warnings like this:
What do I need to do?
Be extremely vigilant to anything out of the ordinary:
• If you receive an email that you’re not expecting or you are suspicious of (even from somebody within the organisation):
o DON’T action the email. This means:
DON’T click on any links
DON’T forward the email
DON’T reply to the email• If you receive a phone call from a number you don’t recognise:
o DON’T answer it. Let it go through to voicemail so you can then determine if it is a legitimate phone call or not.
o DON’T provide any user credentials such login or password details.• If you receive a text message from a number you don’t recognise:
o DON’T click on any links
o DON’T forward the message
o DON’T reply to the messageAccidentally answered a call. Realised it wasn’t for me, disconnected & blocked. Duration of call 12 seconds. Hope I’m OK.
Drone possibly on it way, may have gotten a partial location lock, wear tin foil hat to be sure
https://youtu.be/f-hDNNn49zU
Joe Scarborough: Mark Zuckerberg is lying to the American people
Tamb said:
Cymek said:
Tamb said:Accidentally answered a call. Realised it wasn’t for me, disconnected & blocked. Duration of call 12 seconds. Hope I’m OK.
Drone possibly on it way, may have gotten a partial location lock, wear tin foil hat to be sure
Too prone to infiltration. Will use lead hat to be sure.
Sounds like a good plan
buffy said:
Round and round and round we go. I think new mothers in the 1960s were advised to give their babies half an hour outside every day. In the Summer it was done in the morning, with only a nappy on. I’m a bit hazy. I was a child in the 1960s.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-19/allergies-trial-to-test-vitamin-d-on-children-and-infants/12372224
That’s been a long running one, yes.
5/10 this week.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-19/news-quiz-for-june-19/12371058
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
Round and round and round we go. I think new mothers in the 1960s were advised to give their babies half an hour outside every day. In the Summer it was done in the morning, with only a nappy on. I’m a bit hazy. I was a child in the 1960s.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-19/allergies-trial-to-test-vitamin-d-on-children-and-infants/12372224
That’s been a long running one, yes.
Probably originated in Pongolia. Constant grey skies.
buffy said:
5/10 this week.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-19/news-quiz-for-june-19/12371058
6
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-19/dominic-raab-black-lives-matter-game-of-thrones/12372076
I looked it up last week because I knew the current usage, but was curious. It’s a lot older. It’s something done in American football originally:
>>In American football, a quarterback kneel, also called taking a knee, genuflect offense, kneel-down offense, or victory formation occurs when the quarterback immediately kneels to the ground, ending the play on contact, after receiving the snap.<<
Wikipedia
dv said:
https://youtu.be/f-hDNNn49zUJoe Scarborough: Mark Zuckerberg is lying to the American people
I would be really lonely without facebook.
sibeen said:
buffy said:
5/10 this week.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-19/news-quiz-for-june-19/12371058
6
I didn’t know the place names for North/South Korea or the India/China one. I knew what had happened. I knew what was blown up and I knew that rocks were thrown. I’m not sure I’d even seen the place names.
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
https://youtu.be/f-hDNNn49zUJoe Scarborough: Mark Zuckerberg is lying to the American people
I would be really lonely without facebook.
PermeateFree said:
It is big, are they the ones once mistaken for aliens by a family in the USA back in the 1950’s
Tamb said:
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
https://youtu.be/f-hDNNn49zUJoe Scarborough: Mark Zuckerberg is lying to the American people
I would be really lonely without facebook.
It keeps me in touch with far flung rellies & friends.
Family.
Friends.
Neighbours.
SSSFers that don’t come here.
The Art world and uni peoples.
Words with friends peoples.
sarahs mum said:
Tamb said:
sarahs mum said:I would be really lonely without facebook.
It keeps me in touch with far flung rellies & friends.Family.
Friends.
Neighbours.
SSSFers that don’t come here.
The Art world and uni peoples.
Words with friends peoples.
Captured in 2019, this photograph shows a a white-bellied sea-eagle grasping a feral pig in the Cromarty wetlands, south of Townsville in Queensland, Australia.
Tamb said:
sarahs mum said:
Tamb said:It keeps me in touch with far flung rellies & friends.
Family.
Friends.
Neighbours.
SSSFers that don’t come here.
The Art world and uni peoples.
Words with friends peoples.
That too.
It’s also part of my fire on the mountain plan.
PermeateFree said:
![]()
Captured in 2019, this photograph shows a a white-bellied sea-eagle grasping a feral pig in the Cromarty wetlands, south of Townsville in Queensland, Australia.
that’s a good feed.
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Have we had a conversation here about Richard C?
Just looked back and found it :(
Richard C was a witty and erudite contributor on the old forum, always enjoyed his company.
Big shame. He was great.
sarahs mum said:
PermeateFree said:
![]()
Captured in 2019, this photograph shows a a white-bellied sea-eagle grasping a feral pig in the Cromarty wetlands, south of Townsville in Queensland, Australia.
that’s a good feed.
PermeateFree said:
![]()
Captured in 2019, this photograph shows a a white-bellied sea-eagle grasping a feral pig in the Cromarty wetlands, south of Townsville in Queensland, Australia.
reckon he got away with it?
dv said:
PermeateFree said:
![]()
Captured in 2019, this photograph shows a a white-bellied sea-eagle grasping a feral pig in the Cromarty wetlands, south of Townsville in Queensland, Australia.
reckon he got away with it?
Either he did, or the piglet drowned.
It’s settlement on Mum and Dad’s house today.
PermeateFree said:
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-largest-eagles-in-the-world.html Though the Tasmanian wedge-tail is even larger than the mainland wedge-tail
This chap is four times stronger than most humans
buffy said:
dv said:
PermeateFree said:
![]()
Captured in 2019, this photograph shows a a white-bellied sea-eagle grasping a feral pig in the Cromarty wetlands, south of Townsville in Queensland, Australia.
reckon he got away with it?
Either he did, or the piglet drowned.
I need a ruling on that. How are pigs at swimming? You’d think they’d be pretty buoyant…
PermeateFree said:
This chap is four times stronger than most humans
He looks like solid muscle
PermeateFree said:
This chap is four times stronger than most humans
dv said:
buffy said:
dv said:reckon he got away with it?
Either he did, or the piglet drowned.
I need a ruling on that. How are pigs at swimming? You’d think they’d be pretty buoyant…
dv said:
buffy said:
dv said:reckon he got away with it?
Either he did, or the piglet drowned.
I need a ruling on that. How are pigs at swimming? You’d think they’d be pretty buoyant…
I’ve seen my pigs playing in the dam and swimming. But pigs get puffed out faster than you might think they would.
PermeateFree said:
Has that Siberian look?
PermeateFree said:
not
happy
A country road in Northern Ireland
PermeateFree said:
A country road in Northern Ireland
Mirkwood.
According to Reader’s Digest a prospector who rescued a group of timber wolf cubs from Coho Creek in Alaska and returned them to their mother and helped nurse them back to health the animals remembered him years after the fact. After returning from World War II he saw a dark shape moving across a meadow. He said:
I could see it was a timber wolf. A chill spread through my whole body. I knew at once that familiar shape, even after four years. ‘Hello, old girl,’ I called gently. The wolf edged closer, ears erect, body tense, and stopped a few yards off, her bushy tail wagging slightly.
Jerry Ventouras, told the Guardian what happened when his friend Ken found himself on the receiving end of a shark attack in Perth:
I turned around and saw this enormous fin travelling on the inside of Ken. It came in behind him. It was surreal. This damn big shark – somewhere between five metres and six metres – head up out of the water, its jaws wide open surging towards Ken. Without even stopping, seemed to grab him across the lower half of his body, lift him out of the water and give him a couple of shakes like a dog would shake at a bone, dropped him in the middle of the pool in a great cloud of blood. There was no sound
roughbarked said:
PermeateFree said:
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-largest-eagles-in-the-world.html Though the Tasmanian wedge-tail is even larger than the mainland wedge-tail
A female killed in Tasmania in 1931 had a wingspan of 284 cm (9 ft 4 in), and another female measured barely smaller at 279 cm (9 ft 2 in). Similar claims, however, have been made for the Steller’s sea eagle, which has also been said to reach or exceed 274 cm (9 ft) in wingspan. Reported claims of eagles spanning 312 cm (10 ft 3 in) and 340 cm (11 ft 2 in) were deemed to be unreliable. This eagle’s great length and wingspan place it among the largest eagles in the world, but its wings, at more than 65 cm (26 in), and tail, at 45 cm (18 in), are both unusually elongated for its body weight, and eight or nine other eagle species regularly outweigh it.
Mr Mutant and I went out for lunch. We had to check in using a QR code for COVID contact tracing. I enjoyed my hillbilly burger, Mr Mutant didn’t enjoy his nachos.
Miss Crankypants is cranky.
Divine Angel said:
Mr Mutant and I went out for lunch. We had to check in using a QR code for COVID contact tracing. I enjoyed my hillbilly burger, Mr Mutant didn’t enjoy his nachos.Miss Crankypants is cranky.
Is Miss Crankypants a picture book yet?
A comedian applies to be an astronaut. It goes as well as might be expected.
https://imgur.com/gallery/XdsNRvj
captain_spalding said:
A comedian applies to be an astronaut. It goes as well as might be expected.https://imgur.com/gallery/XdsNRvj
Nicely written. Gave me a few smiles.
I am so tired. All I want to do is kick mrs m out of bed and crawl into it. But no can do.
And there go Mr buffy’s resusc mannequins, into friend’s car for their trip to their new home.
mollwollfumble said:
I am so tired. All I want to do is kick mrs m out of bed and crawl into it. But no can do.
Maybe you need to invest in having a bed each.
captain_spalding said:
A comedian applies to be an astronaut. It goes as well as might be expected.https://imgur.com/gallery/XdsNRvj
I got to “even still…” and stopped reading. Can’t abide that term.
I did not know that Liam Neeson is Vanessa Redgrave’s son in law.
dv said:
I did not know that Liam Neeson is Vanessa Redgrave’s son in law.
… and Vanessa is still going (age 83), but her daughter who was married to LN is dead.
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
I did not know that Liam Neeson is Vanessa Redgrave’s son in law.
… and Vanessa is still going (age 83), but her daughter who was married to LN is dead.
Also found out that Lynn Redgrave’s husband fathered a secret child with a woman who later became their daughter in law.
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
I did not know that Liam Neeson is Vanessa Redgrave’s son in law.
… and Vanessa is still going (age 83), but her daughter who was married to LN is dead.
Also found out that Lynn Redgrave’s husband fathered a secret child with a woman who later became their daughter in law.
I remember her in Southpark
buffy said:
And there go Mr buffy’s resusc mannequins, into friend’s car for their trip to their new home.
Hopefully they’ve gone somewhere they’ll get used.
TwoThumbsUp.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-19/zombie-fires-and-fire-thunderstorms-hit-arctic/12369818
Positive Feedback Success !!
Hello. What’s a “weather eye” when used in the context but always with a weather eye on good communication?
Speedy said:
Hello. What’s a “weather eye” when used in the context but always with a weather eye on good communication?
alert to changes in the weather and thus used as to describe someone alert to change.
buffy said:
And there go Mr buffy’s resusc mannequins, into friend’s car for their trip to their new home.
Are they sitting upright and buckled in? Could get a few curious looks on the drive home.
Speedy said:
Hello. What’s a “weather eye” when used in the context but always with a weather eye on good communication?
Sailing jargon. Constantly monitor the situation and be alert for any change or deterioration.
JudgeMental said:
Speedy said:
Hello. What’s a “weather eye” when used in the context but always with a weather eye on good communication?
alert to changes in the weather and thus used as to describe someone alert to change.
Thanks. I think it’s a strange thing to say. Here it is again, with a little more text from the school’s newsletter…
Adaptability is the key these days. And so subject selection for Year 10 for the senior years needs to be done differently but always with a weather eye on good communication.
Speedy said:
JudgeMental said:
Speedy said:
Hello. What’s a “weather eye” when used in the context but always with a weather eye on good communication?
alert to changes in the weather and thus used as to describe someone alert to change.
Thanks. I think it’s a strange thing to say. Here it is again, with a little more text from the school’s newsletter…
Adaptability is the key these days. And so subject selection for Year 10 for the senior years needs to be done differently but always with a weather eye on good communication.
Yeah, that’s a perverse way to put it.
party_pants said:
Speedy said:
Hello. What’s a “weather eye” when used in the context but always with a weather eye on good communication?
Sailing jargon. Constantly monitor the situation and be alert for any change or deterioration.
OK, that makes a little more sense. Still, I’ve never heard the term, and I was born here, so I’m not at all sure that using it in a Sydney school’s newsletter was appropriate.
party_pants said:
buffy said:
And there go Mr buffy’s resusc mannequins, into friend’s car for their trip to their new home.Are they sitting upright and buckled in? Could get a few curious looks on the drive home.
Always good for a laugh. Especially if you decorate them.
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
I did not know that Liam Neeson is Vanessa Redgrave’s son in law.
… and Vanessa is still going (age 83), but her daughter who was married to LN is dead.
Also found out that Lynn Redgrave’s husband fathered a secret child with a woman who later became their daughter in law.
You don’t say. Well, i always said he was no better than he ought to be. The whole family is a bunch of no-hopers, if you ask me. I’m not one to talk, but as i was saying to Mrs McGillicuddy just the other day…
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:
buffy said:
And there go Mr buffy’s resusc mannequins, into friend’s car for their trip to their new home.Are they sitting upright and buckled in? Could get a few curious looks on the drive home.
Always good for a laugh. Especially if you decorate them.
Michael Jackson lives!
Speedy said:
party_pants said:
Speedy said:
Hello. What’s a “weather eye” when used in the context but always with a weather eye on good communication?
Sailing jargon. Constantly monitor the situation and be alert for any change or deterioration.
OK, that makes a little more sense. Still, I’ve never heard the term, and I was born here, so I’m not at all sure that using it in a Sydney school’s newsletter was appropriate.
I think it a good thing™ to embiggen one’s vocabulary.
I reckon Unis are on a safe bet doubling the cost of Arts degrees – Nobody ever pays off their HELP debt.
:-)
captain_spalding said:
Michael Jackson lives!
And considerably more ‘armless than he used to be.
Rule 303 said:
I reckon Unis are on a safe bet doubling the cost of Arts degrees – Nobody ever pays off their HELP debt.:-)
I thought that you got a BA if you managed to fill out the enrolment form neatly.
captain_spalding said:
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:Are they sitting upright and buckled in? Could get a few curious looks on the drive home.
Always good for a laugh. Especially if you decorate them.
Michael Jackson lives!

captain_spalding said:
Rule 303 said:
I reckon Unis are on a safe bet doubling the cost of Arts degrees – Nobody ever pays off their HELP debt.:-)
I thought that you got a BA if you managed to fill out the enrolment form neatly.
Have you seen those f’n enrollment forms?! Nobody gets a BA that way because nobody can fill them out!
Far easier to just turn up to the lectures and tutes and do the work.
dv said:
Just as well.
The ungrateful peasantry can be so critical in their thinking sometimes.
Better to price them out of those sorts of fields.
captain_spalding said:
captain_spalding said:Michael Jackson lives!
And considerably more ‘armless than he used to be.
She’s a dead ringer for this clown if you pop her ears out.
Poor bugger….
captain_spalding said:
captain_spalding said:Michael Jackson lives!
And considerably more ‘armless than he used to be.
She’s a dead ringer for this clown if you pop her ears out.

Poor bugger….
dv said:
:)
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
Just as well.
The ungrateful peasantry can be so critical in their thinking sometimes.
Better to price them out of those sorts of fields.
Dumbecation?
Rule 303 said:
captain_spalding said:
Rule 303 said:Always good for a laugh. Especially if you decorate them.
Michael Jackson lives!
looks more like MJ Fox
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
Just as well.
The ungrateful peasantry can be so critical in their thinking sometimes.
Better to price them out of those sorts of fields.
Dumbecation?
(taps side of nose with forefinger)
JudgeMental said:
Rule 303 said:
captain_spalding said:Michael Jackson lives!
looks more like MJ Fox
I don’t have an opinion even though I seem to be voicing it.
captain_spalding said:
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:Just as well.
The ungrateful peasantry can be so critical in their thinking sometimes.
Better to price them out of those sorts of fields.
Dumbecation?
(taps side of nose with forefinger)
Scomo gave himself away when he tried to force a handshake from an unwilling participant.
SCIENCE said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-19/zombie-fires-and-fire-thunderstorms-hit-arctic/12369818Positive Feedback Success !!
Shit eh
SCIENCE said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-19/zombie-fires-and-fire-thunderstorms-hit-arctic/12369818Positive Feedback Success !!
Nobody reads my posts.
roughbarked said:
JudgeMental said:
Rule 303 said:
looks more like MJ Fox
I don’t have an opinion even though I seem to be voicing it.
The face is meant to be feminine, FTR, and there’s a bloody interesting involved. L’inconnue de la Seine
(open Wiki page)
party_pants said:
Speedy said:
Hello. What’s a “weather eye” when used in the context but always with a weather eye on good communication?
Sailing jargon. Constantly monitor the situation and be alert for any change or deterioration.
Applicable in other situations.
Ian said:
SCIENCE said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-19/zombie-fires-and-fire-thunderstorms-hit-arctic/12369818Positive Feedback Success !!
Shit eh
Hey-Zeuss!
That’s a lot.
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-19/zombie-fires-and-fire-thunderstorms-hit-arctic/12369818Positive Feedback Success !!
Nobody reads my posts.
https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/posts/1575859/
Rule 303 said:
roughbarked said:
JudgeMental said:looks more like MJ Fox
I don’t have an opinion even though I seem to be voicing it.
The face is meant to be feminine, FTR, and there’s a bloody interesting involved. L’inconnue de la Seine
(open Wiki page)
Ta. Interesting.
Well that’s disappointing. I went to the Scientology COVID page and they have actual helpful advice on how to stay well. I wanted dodgy advice, weird chants, dianetic Healing!!
https://www.scientology.org/staywell/
CLANCY OVERELL | Editor | CONTACT
The Government has this week ordered an overhaul of tertiary education, in an effort to stop universities from pumping out open-minded thinkers who might take issue with
The cost of studying humanities at university is set to double, but “job-relevant” course fees will be slashed, in an effort to maintain a focus on the type of employment held by people more likely to vote for the current government.
This comes after months of our government subtly accusing China of creating the COVID-19 virus to damage the global economy, which has surprisingly resulted in Australian universities no longer being able to prop themselves up by selling degrees to the teenage sons and daughters of Beijing billionaires.
Inconveniently, at the same time as China deciding to no longer buy our beef, barley, iron ore or university degrees – the government has also been criticised for their alleged involvement in blatant electoral fraud.
In an effort to keep the Australian voter thinking that our current economic recession is the fault of China, and not the incompetency of our current leaders, the Prime Minister has today also insinuated that all government computers have been compromised by cyber attacks.
However, before the fourth estate could report further on this arguably made up claim, the government also announced plans to double the cost of Humanities Degrees – which include the likes of arts, communications, history and philosophy.
The same degrees that generate voters who question our government’s motives are now going to cost twice as much as they once did, while it will now be even cheaper to study how to blow up Indigenous artefacts in the search for that beautiful gotdam coal.
Universities say that while they appreciate the government offering them to fill the holes left by the foreign student cash cow, there is growing concern that this new restructure is just going to turn stoner artists into ice-addict FIFO miners who never get to see their kids and develop mental health problems while they spend 30% of their life underground making hundreds of thousands of dollars that they never get to spend on their loved ones.
However, the Prime Minister has said anyone who criticises the plans to double the cost of humanities degrees are just snowflakes who probably studied humanities degrees, and are a good example of why we should weed out humanities degrees.
“Back in my day, we used to study stuff that actually equipped you for the workforce, like my degree in political geography.”
“I’d have never been able to get a job as a marketing executive if I learnt how to think critically”
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:
roughbarked said:I don’t have an opinion even though I seem to be voicing it.
The face is meant to be feminine, FTR, and there’s a bloody interesting involved. L’inconnue de la Seine
(open Wiki page)
Ta. Interesting.
If not just a little morbid.
Divine Angel said:
Well that’s disappointing. I went to the Scientology COVID page and they have actual helpful advice on how to stay well. I wanted dodgy advice, weird chants, dianetic Healing!!https://www.scientology.org/staywell/
Is there a chiropractic site you can visit?
party_pants said:
buffy said:
And there go Mr buffy’s resusc mannequins, into friend’s car for their trip to their new home.Are they sitting upright and buckled in? Could get a few curious looks on the drive home.
It’s worse than that…they are bodies in cases, like luggage. And the only ones with all limbs are the babies – who are crammed in together in their case. The others are sans legs and arms…
dv said:
Divine Angel said:
Well that’s disappointing. I went to the Scientology COVID page and they have actual helpful advice on how to stay well. I wanted dodgy advice, weird chants, dianetic Healing!!https://www.scientology.org/staywell/
Is there a chiropractic site you can visit?
Are chiros open now?
The chiro I worked for believed chiro could cure colds and flu so I imagine he also thinks it can cure COVID.
Divine Angel said:
dv said:
Divine Angel said:
Well that’s disappointing. I went to the Scientology COVID page and they have actual helpful advice on how to stay well. I wanted dodgy advice, weird chants, dianetic Healing!!https://www.scientology.org/staywell/
Is there a chiropractic site you can visit?
Are chiros open now?
The chiro I worked for believed chiro could cure colds and flu so I imagine he also thinks it can cure COVID.
It burns like a fire
Rule 303 said:
I reckon Unis are on a safe bet doubling the cost of Arts degrees – Nobody ever pays off their HELP debt.:-)
It has been making sad. I know I will never pay mine off but I don’t want to feel like it was a totally unworthy endeavour.
Mine cost a lot of money. Etching paper starts at $5 a sheet but I guarantee better examiner’s response with $15 a sheet paper. I can go a long way on a tin of cool portland black for thirty something dollars. But the colour inks vary from $30 to quite unaffordable under most circumstances. And there was still the theory books and all that.
(Note: collecting cardboard out of dumpsters on the way to art school and screenprinting it with work about transience, waste, urban architecture and the way people pass through space, gazumps quality materials and finesse.)
sarahs mum said:
Rule 303 said:
I reckon Unis are on a safe bet doubling the cost of Arts degrees – Nobody ever pays off their HELP debt.:-)
It has been making sad. I know I will never pay mine off but I don’t want to feel like it was a totally unworthy endeavour.
Mine cost a lot of money. Etching paper starts at $5 a sheet but I guarantee better examiner’s response with $15 a sheet paper. I can go a long way on a tin of cool portland black for thirty something dollars. But the colour inks vary from $30 to quite unaffordable under most circumstances. And there was still the theory books and all that.
(Note: collecting cardboard out of dumpsters on the way to art school and screenprinting it with work about transience, waste, urban architecture and the way people pass through space, gazumps quality materials and finesse.)
If I’d not left school early and gone to uni straight after school, there would have been no fees. Starting uni later in life meant TEAS, then Austudy, which I eventually got paid off. As extra expenses for our courses, we had field trips for up to 2 weeks – vast distances covered in hired buses and staying at caravan parks. One was to go to New Zealand to study rocks and geologic processes there for a fortnight. Not cheap.
sarahs mum said:
(Note: collecting cardboard out of dumpsters on the way to art school and screenprinting it with work about transience, waste, urban architecture and the way people pass through space, gazumps quality materials and finesse.)
Art serves politics.
Universities serve politics.
That’s how they like it.
I haven’t seen Bubblecar all day, and nobody else seems keen to do it, so I’ll just hold up a Toohey’s Old and declare FNDC open for business, shall I?
Cheers.
Rule 303 said:
I haven’t seen Bubblecar all day, and nobody else seems keen to do it, so I’ll just hold up a Toohey’s Old and declare FNDC open for business, shall I?Cheers.
I’m two sherries and a cab sauv ahead of you
buffy said:
party_pants said:
buffy said:
And there go Mr buffy’s resusc mannequins, into friend’s car for their trip to their new home.Are they sitting upright and buckled in? Could get a few curious looks on the drive home.
It’s worse than that…they are bodies in cases, like luggage. And the only ones with all limbs are the babies – who are crammed in together in their case. The others are sans legs and arms…
Arts knows all about that sort of thing.
captain_spalding said:
Rule 303 said:
I haven’t seen Bubblecar all day, and nobody else seems keen to do it, so I’ll just hold up a Toohey’s Old and declare FNDC open for business, shall I?Cheers.
I’m two sherries and a cab sauv ahead of you
I’m designated chef tonight, so I won’t be having cooks nips until I’ve finished with the sharp knife…
Speaking of which I’d better go start preparations.
Later…
Rule 303 said:
I haven’t seen Bubblecar all day, and nobody else seems keen to do it, so I’ll just hold up a Toohey’s Old and declare FNDC open for business, shall I?Cheers.
Cheers, relaxing with a XXXX Bitter.
Peak Warming Man said:
Rule 303 said:
I haven’t seen Bubblecar all day, and nobody else seems keen to do it, so I’ll just hold up a Toohey’s Old and declare FNDC open for business, shall I?Cheers.
Cheers, relaxing with a XXXX Bitter.
I’ve also got cheese, Danish salami, pickled onions and cheddar shapes.
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Rule 303 said:
I haven’t seen Bubblecar all day, and nobody else seems keen to do it, so I’ll just hold up a Toohey’s Old and declare FNDC open for business, shall I?Cheers.
Cheers, relaxing with a XXXX Bitter.
I’ve also got cheese, Danish salami, pickled onions and cheddar shapes.
And footie on the wireless.
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
Rule 303 said:
I reckon Unis are on a safe bet doubling the cost of Arts degrees – Nobody ever pays off their HELP debt.:-)
It has been making sad. I know I will never pay mine off but I don’t want to feel like it was a totally unworthy endeavour.
Mine cost a lot of money. Etching paper starts at $5 a sheet but I guarantee better examiner’s response with $15 a sheet paper. I can go a long way on a tin of cool portland black for thirty something dollars. But the colour inks vary from $30 to quite unaffordable under most circumstances. And there was still the theory books and all that.
(Note: collecting cardboard out of dumpsters on the way to art school and screenprinting it with work about transience, waste, urban architecture and the way people pass through space, gazumps quality materials and finesse.)
If I’d not left school early and gone to uni straight after school, there would have been no fees. Starting uni later in life meant TEAS, then Austudy, which I eventually got paid off. As extra expenses for our courses, we had field trips for up to 2 weeks – vast distances covered in hired buses and staying at caravan parks. One was to go to New Zealand to study rocks and geologic processes there for a fortnight. Not cheap.
I only did the landscape theory courses. The field courses were not cheap. And then you had to add art materials to that again. Most of the arty people I know have spent time on Maria Island. Perhaps one day I will get there.
I was making pretty good money and paying taxes while the present day pollies were getting their uni free.
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Rule 303 said:
I haven’t seen Bubblecar all day, and nobody else seems keen to do it, so I’ll just hold up a Toohey’s Old and declare FNDC open for business, shall I?Cheers.
Cheers, relaxing with a XXXX Bitter.
I’ve also got cheese, Danish salami, pickled onions and cheddar shapes.
I’ve got a lovely bunch of coconuts.
Rule 303 said:
I haven’t seen Bubblecar all day, and nobody else seems keen to do it, so I’ll just hold up a Toohey’s Old and declare FNDC open for business, shall I?Cheers.
Raises Abbotsford Invalid Stout.
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:(Note: collecting cardboard out of dumpsters on the way to art school and screenprinting it with work about transience, waste, urban architecture and the way people pass through space, gazumps quality materials and finesse.)
Art serves politics.
Universities serve politics.
That’s how they like it.
If it was all about drawing and painting then you should have all gone to TAFE.
*tap *tap *tap
Paging a Mr Car to the Friday night drinks bar.
sarahs mum said:
*tap *tap *tapPaging a Mr Car to the Friday night drinks bar.
Wasn’t he eating a main meal about breakfast time this morning and saying he’d been up since mid night?
sarahs mum said:
*tap *tap *tapPaging a Mr Car to the Friday night drinks bar.
Didn’t he say he had lunch at breakfast on account of having been up since midnight? He could be having a kip at the moment…
Oh, my food report: Fish and chips from the pub. One bit of the 4 bits of fish (you get 2 bits of fish, some chips and some salad in a serve) fell out of the basket as it came past Auntie Annie’s on the way back. Some chips fell off there too. But she had to make her own salad. I find two bits of fish too much to eat, so it’s quite convenient that she wants a bit too. When we eat in the bistro I order just one piece of fish.
We’ve got a line of rain entering Vic from the west.
Rule 303 said:
We’ve got a line of rain entering Vic from the west.
Just checked the weather observations map and it’s just starting to rain in Casterton.
furious said:
sarahs mum said:*tap *tap *tapPaging a Mr Car to the Friday night drinks bar.
Didn’t he say he had lunch at breakfast on account of having been up since midnight? He could be having a kip at the moment…
That he was.
Chicken and chips, IIRC.
captain_spalding said:
furious said:
sarahs mum said:*tap *tap *tapPaging a Mr Car to the Friday night drinks bar.
Didn’t he say he had lunch at breakfast on account of having been up since midnight? He could be having a kip at the moment…
That he was.
Chicken and chips, IIRC.
Hang on…isn’t he on a diet at the moment?
captain_spalding said:
furious said:
sarahs mum said:*tap *tap *tapPaging a Mr Car to the Friday night drinks bar.
Didn’t he say he had lunch at breakfast on account of having been up since midnight? He could be having a kip at the moment…
That he was.
Chicken and chips, IIRC.
When he said chicken he probably meant turkey.
buffy said:
captain_spalding said:
furious said:Didn’t he say he had lunch at breakfast on account of having been up since midnight? He could be having a kip at the moment…
That he was.
Chicken and chips, IIRC.
Hang on…isn’t he on a diet at the moment?
Did he say what kind of diet?
I should report that my mower has responded well to a new spark plug, a new air filter and a change of oil.
:)
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:
captain_spalding said:That he was.
Chicken and chips, IIRC.
Hang on…isn’t he on a diet at the moment?
Did he say what kind of diet?
the 4:3 diet. 4 meals in the morning and 3 meals after noon
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:
furious said:Didn’t he say he had lunch at breakfast on account of having been up since midnight? He could be having a kip at the moment…
That he was.
Chicken and chips, IIRC.
When he said chicken he probably meant turkey.
Probably a turducken.
buffy said:
Rule 303 said:
We’ve got a line of rain entering Vic from the west.
Just checked the weather observations map and it’s just starting to rain in Casterton.
Light rain here at the redoubt, wont need the fire tonight, it’s cold but I’ll just rug up and get some stubbies into me.
sibeen said:
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:That he was.
Chicken and chips, IIRC.
When he said chicken he probably meant turkey.
Probably a turducken.
Chips were probably roast potatoes cooked in goose fat…
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
Rule 303 said:
We’ve got a line of rain entering Vic from the west.
Just checked the weather observations map and it’s just starting to rain in Casterton.
Light rain here at the redoubt, wont need the fire tonight, it’s cold but I’ll just rug up and get some stubbies into me.
Alcohol: the cause of, and solution to, most of life’s problems.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-19/zombie-fires-and-fire-thunderstorms-hit-arctic/12369818Positive Feedback Success !!
Nobody reads my posts.
https://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/posts/1575859/
sorry we get uninvited to some threads
ABC News:
‘A pastor accused of forcing a parishioner to have sex with him during a “prayer of deliverance” has been found not guilty by the ACT Supreme Court, despite the judge ruling the offences had been “proven beyond a reasonable doubt”.
Prosecutor Skye Jerome told the court the woman had told police she only agreed to the sexual acts because she genuinely believed she would be cursed if she did not comply.’
Chalk up another point for religion
And one for the arseholes who run religions,
And one for being sufficiently shitheaded-dumb enough to believe what they say.
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘A pastor accused of forcing a parishioner to have sex with him during a “prayer of deliverance” has been found not guilty by the ACT Supreme Court, despite the judge ruling the offences had been “proven beyond a reasonable doubt”.
Prosecutor Skye Jerome told the court the woman had told police she only agreed to the sexual acts because she genuinely believed she would be cursed if she did not comply.’
Chalk up another point for religion
And one for the arseholes who run religions,
And one for being sufficiently shitheaded-dumb enough to believe what they say.
well what is informed consent really
It’s called learning on the job
https://i.imgur.com/GFffcqt.mp4
PermeateFree said:
It’s called learning on the jobhttps://i.imgur.com/GFffcqt.mp4
It saves so much time when the apprentice plays the pranks on himself.
Live action
https://i.imgur.com/hLqPr5N.mp4
I hearing rain on the tin roof, be nice if it did that all night
Haven’t seen CN in a few days.
I may have to go warm my bones front the fire, talk to the larry, maybe he’ll give me a cuddle
Witty Rejoinder said:
Haven’t seen CN in a few days.
quick check the April 23… TDTHD list
Quick survey. Asking because on a scale of 1 to 10, tonight’s supermarket pizza ranked 1.
What brand of pizza do you eat?
mollwollfumble said:
Quick survey. Asking because on a scale of 1 to 10, tonight’s supermarket pizza ranked 1.What brand of pizza do you eat?
Homemade.
Divine Angel said:
mollwollfumble said:
Quick survey. Asking because on a scale of 1 to 10, tonight’s supermarket pizza ranked 1.What brand of pizza do you eat?
Homemade.
Had Pizza tonight.
McCains Supreme from the supermarket.
Added anchovies, pepperoni, olives, mozzarella.
Divine Angel said:
mollwollfumble said:
Quick survey. Asking because on a scale of 1 to 10, tonight’s supermarket pizza ranked 1.What brand of pizza do you eat?
Homemade.
+1
mollwollfumble said:
Quick survey. Asking because on a scale of 1 to 10, tonight’s supermarket pizza ranked 1.What brand of pizza do you eat?
Home made. Pita bread, sauce, whateveryoulike (I have pepperoni, 3 veges, cheese.)
Divine Angel said:
mollwollfumble said:
Quick survey. Asking because on a scale of 1 to 10, tonight’s supermarket pizza ranked 1.What brand of pizza do you eat?
Homemade.
Look, I make some awesome home made pizzas, including base from scratch, but there are some non chain pizza shops out there that make pizzas 100x better than me…
I get mine from here
https://www.manlyvillagepizzeria.com.au/
Proper Italian ones, top shelf.
sibeen said:
Divine Angel said:
mollwollfumble said:
Quick survey. Asking because on a scale of 1 to 10, tonight’s supermarket pizza ranked 1.What brand of pizza do you eat?
Homemade.
+3
You’re kidding? – four votes for home made pizza and a further one for home-modified McCains pizza. I thought only Italians and those who had lived for years in Italy made home-made pizza.
The previous pizza we had was McCains. I found it not too bad (perhaps 4/10) but mrs m said we must never have it again.
“Non-chain stores”. I can well believe that. “I get mine from here https://www.manlyvillagepizzeria.com.au/ Proper Italian ones, top shelf.”
Is that proper Italian as in delicious or proper Italian as in bread, tomato sauce and practically nothing else?
mollwollfumble said:
sibeen said:
Divine Angel said:Homemade.
+3
You’re kidding? – four votes for home made pizza and a further one for home-modified McCains pizza. I thought only Italians and those who had lived for years in Italy made home-made pizza.
The previous pizza we had was McCains. I found it not too bad (perhaps 4/10) but mrs m said we must never have it again.
“Non-chain stores”. I can well believe that. “I get mine from here https://www.manlyvillagepizzeria.com.au/ Proper Italian ones, top shelf.”
Is that proper Italian as in delicious or proper Italian as in bread, tomato sauce and practically nothing else?
Yep. Maximum of three ingredients.
You can make them 1/2-1/2 or even 1/3-1/3-1/3.
mollwollfumble said:
sibeen said:
Divine Angel said:Homemade.
+3
You’re kidding? – four votes for home made pizza and a further one for home-modified McCains pizza. I thought only Italians and those who had lived for years in Italy made home-made pizza.
The previous pizza we had was McCains. I found it not too bad (perhaps 4/10) but mrs m said we must never have it again.
“Non-chain stores”. I can well believe that. “I get mine from here https://www.manlyvillagepizzeria.com.au/ Proper Italian ones, top shelf.”
Is that proper Italian as in delicious or proper Italian as in bread, tomato sauce and practically nothing else?
Mr Speedy makes home-made pizza often. He makes one each for the boys and one for him and me to share. The boys’ pizzas are topped with passata, onion, bacon, salami and cheese, and ours with all of that as well as olives, mushrooms, anchovies (on his half) and green capsicum.
Neither are proper Italian pizzas as the toppings are too heavy, but a good pizza is whatever you’d like it to be.
mollwollfumble said:
sibeen said:
Divine Angel said:Homemade.
+3
You’re kidding? – four votes for home made pizza and a further one for home-modified McCains pizza. I thought only Italians and those who had lived for years in Italy made home-made pizza.
The previous pizza we had was McCains. I found it not too bad (perhaps 4/10) but mrs m said we must never have it again.
“Non-chain stores”. I can well believe that. “I get mine from here https://www.manlyvillagepizzeria.com.au/ Proper Italian ones, top shelf.”
Is that proper Italian as in delicious or proper Italian as in bread, tomato sauce and practically nothing else?
Mr Speedy makes home-made pizza often. He makes one each for the boys and one for him and me to share. The boys’ pizzas are topped with passata, onion, bacon, salami and cheese, and ours with all of that as well as olives, mushrooms, anchovies (on his half) and green capsicum.
Neither are proper Italian pizzas as the toppings are too heavy, but a good pizza is whatever you’d like it to be.
That double post has finally confirmed what I have suspected for a few days. It’s time for a new mouse.
Speedy said:
mollwollfumble said:
sibeen said:+3
You’re kidding? – four votes for home made pizza and a further one for home-modified McCains pizza. I thought only Italians and those who had lived for years in Italy made home-made pizza.
The previous pizza we had was McCains. I found it not too bad (perhaps 4/10) but mrs m said we must never have it again.
“Non-chain stores”. I can well believe that. “I get mine from here https://www.manlyvillagepizzeria.com.au/ Proper Italian ones, top shelf.”
Is that proper Italian as in delicious or proper Italian as in bread, tomato sauce and practically nothing else?
Mr Speedy makes home-made pizza often. He makes one each for the boys and one for him and me to share. The boys’ pizzas are topped with passata, onion, bacon, salami and cheese, and ours with all of that as well as olives, mushrooms, anchovies (on his half) and green capsicum.
Neither are proper Italian pizzas as the toppings are too heavy, but a good pizza is whatever you’d like it to be.
^ what Speedy said.
How bored would you have to be to watch a YouTube video on advanced multimeter use?
I am that bored….
Rule 303 said:
How bored would you have to be to watch a YouTube video on advanced multimeter use?I am that bored….
Try searching for amazing farm machinery. You’ll get some doozies.
Rule 303 said:
How bored would you have to be to watch a YouTube video on advanced multimeter use?I am that bored….
??
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
How bored would you have to be to watch a YouTube video on advanced multimeter use?I am that bored….
??
He;s drinking Toohey’s Old. He out of his mind!!!
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:
How bored would you have to be to watch a YouTube video on advanced multimeter use?I am that bored….
Try searching for amazing farm machinery. You’ll get some doozies.
…… or lancing the world’s biggest boils.
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:
How bored would you have to be to watch a YouTube video on advanced multimeter use?I am that bored….
Try searching for amazing farm machinery. You’ll get some doozies.
…… or lancing the world’s biggest boils.
Woodie said:
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:
How bored would you have to be to watch a YouTube video on advanced multimeter use?I am that bored….
Try searching for amazing farm machinery. You’ll get some doozies.
…… or lancing the world’s biggest boils.
Or boiling the world’s biggest lances…
Woodie said:
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:
How bored would you have to be to watch a YouTube video on advanced multimeter use?I am that bored….
Try searching for amazing farm machinery. You’ll get some doozies.
…… or lancing the world’s biggest boils.
no
Rule 303 said:
How bored would you have to be to watch a YouTube video on advanced multimeter use?I am that bored….
I was once bored enough to watch a three hour YouTube about Prince William being the third Antichrist…
Divine Angel said:
Rule 303 said:
How bored would you have to be to watch a YouTube video on advanced multimeter use?I am that bored….
I was once bored enough to watch a three hour YouTube about Prince William being the third Antichrist…
who were the first and second?
Divine Angel said:
Rule 303 said:
How bored would you have to be to watch a YouTube video on advanced multimeter use?I am that bored….
I was once bored enough to watch a three hour YouTube about Prince William being the third Antichrist…
That’s impressive.
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
How bored would you have to be to watch a YouTube video on advanced multimeter use?I am that bored….
??
IDK.
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
How bored would you have to be to watch a YouTube video on advanced multimeter use?I am that bored….
??
IDK.
I’ve never been bored enough to watch ewetube at all. My ultimate in boredom is attempting to play a musical instrument.
Maybe we should start a thread as boring Youtube Challenge. Aim of the competition is to find the most boring video.
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
How bored would you have to be to watch a YouTube video on advanced multimeter use?I am that bored….
??
He;s drinking Toohey’s Old. He out of his mind!!!
I don’t mind an old and many times when working in NSW that’s what I’d be drinking.
party_pants said:
Maybe we should start a thread as boring Youtube Challenge. Aim of the competition is to find the most boring video.
ASMR…
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
How bored would you have to be to watch a YouTube video on advanced multimeter use?I am that bored….
??
He;s drinking Toohey’s Old. He out of his mind!!!
You’re not helping.
On the wagon this week, going to be doing some studio work tonight.
Next weekend the family will be converging on The Sheiling for a birthday do for the immediately younger sister and myself.
party_pants said:
Maybe we should start a thread as boring Youtube Challenge. Aim of the competition is to find the most boring video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x36_F1g6Mdc
Rule 303 said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:??
He;s drinking Toohey’s Old. He out of his mind!!!
You’re not helping.
What better way to alleviate boredom than to pick a fight on the internet?
party_pants said:
Maybe we should start a thread as boring Youtube Challenge. Aim of the competition is to find the most boring video.
10 Hours of Watching Grass Grow
Woodie said:
party_pants said:
Maybe we should start a thread as boring Youtube Challenge. Aim of the competition is to find the most boring video.
10 Hours of Watching Grass Grow
Stop tempting Mr Car!!! He has art to do.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Woodie said:
party_pants said:
Maybe we should start a thread as boring Youtube Challenge. Aim of the competition is to find the most boring video.
10 Hours of Watching Grass Grow
Stop tempting Mr Car!!! He has art to do.
Watching Paint Dry Is Art
party_pants said:
Divine Angel said:
Rule 303 said:
How bored would you have to be to watch a YouTube video on advanced multimeter use?I am that bored….
I was once bored enough to watch a three hour YouTube about Prince William being the third Antichrist…
who were the first and second?
Hitler was one, I think the second was Stalin? Not sure, and I’m not about to go watch it again to find out.
Divine Angel said:
party_pants said:
Divine Angel said:I was once bored enough to watch a three hour YouTube about Prince William being the third Antichrist…
who were the first and second?
Hitler was one, I think the second was Stalin? Not sure, and I’m not about to go watch it again to find out.
I thought Obama was the anti Christ, it is hard to keep up…
Divine Angel said:
party_pants said:
Divine Angel said:I was once bored enough to watch a three hour YouTube about Prince William being the third Antichrist…
who were the first and second?
Hitler was one, I think the second was Stalin? Not sure, and I’m not about to go watch it again to find out.
Don’t you read Nostradamus. Napoleon was number 1 and Hitler number 2.
sibeen said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:??
He;s drinking Toohey’s Old. He out of his mind!!!
I don’t mind an old and many times when working in NSW that’s what I’d be drinking.
Sibeen, I dragged my good (but faulty) multi out of the shed and fixed it, so now I’m re-learning the fine detail of the functions. I take back what I said about it being boring – I was temporarily stunned by a barrage of nerdiness.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Divine Angel said:
party_pants said:who were the first and second?
Hitler was one, I think the second was Stalin? Not sure, and I’m not about to go watch it again to find out.
Don’t you read Nostradamus. Napoleon was number 1 and Hitler number 2.
thought the pope was one.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Divine Angel said:
party_pants said:who were the first and second?
Hitler was one, I think the second was Stalin? Not sure, and I’m not about to go watch it again to find out.
Don’t you read Nostradamus. Napoleon was number 1 and Hitler number 2.
How many of these blighters has there been?!
JudgeMental said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Divine Angel said:Hitler was one, I think the second was Stalin? Not sure, and I’m not about to go watch it again to find out.
Don’t you read Nostradamus. Napoleon was number 1 and Hitler number 2.
thought the pope was one.
Benedict XVI was a Star Wars baddie.
furious said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Divine Angel said:Hitler was one, I think the second was Stalin? Not sure, and I’m not about to go watch it again to find out.
Don’t you read Nostradamus. Napoleon was number 1 and Hitler number 2.
How many of these blighters has there been?!
.. and is there a club I can apply to join?
party_pants said:
furious said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Don’t you read Nostradamus. Napoleon was number 1 and Hitler number 2.
How many of these blighters has there been?!
.. and is there a club I can apply to join?
And how do these clubs get by now that no one is allowed to shake hands?
party_pants said:
Maybe we should start a thread as boring Youtube Challenge. Aim of the competition is to find the most boring video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xlvWOGu_nA
Relaxing birdsong by the ocean – sleep music (2.5 hours) | Nature Track
Now I want a temperature probe.
Rule 303 said:
Now I want a temperature probe.
TMI
Rule 303 said:
Now I want a temperature probe.
ROFL.
I haven’t had one for over twenty years. I do have an infrared one though. A Fluke. Cost me a bloody fortune. Can nowdays get the equivalent on ebay for $10.
I took out a Bloomberg subscription for a few dollars for three months and promptly cancelled it when the special was over but now they are sending me daily emails asking me to reconsider. When did big corporates get so needy?
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
Now I want a temperature probe.
ROFL.
I haven’t had one for over twenty years. I do have an infrared one though. A Fluke. Cost me a bloody fortune. Can nowdays get the equivalent on ebay for $10.
I think I got one with the DMM but chucked it out years ago because I didn’t know about using them in cooking. I have a good infrared one but it’s only accurate in the 20-42° range.
Witty Rejoinder said:
I took out a Bloomberg subscription for a few dollars for three months and promptly cancelled it when the special was over but now they are sending me daily emails asking me to reconsider. When did big corporates get so needy?
Keysight which is a test equipment manufacturer, of which I own a few pieces, used to send me an email about once every two or three weeks with a ‘seminar’ on test equipment usage. Some of them are actually quite interesting and taught me a few quirks of some gear I own that I hadn’t realised. Over the last month or so the emails have increased substantially. Every second day or so. Funnily enough the major competitor in their marketplace, Tektronix, has also started to send me emails. I inquired about one of their new oscilloscopes about 4 years ago.
I think everyone s scrambling for the lose change at the back of the couch.
Rule 303 said:
Now I want a temperature probe.
I’d be demanding a Royal Commision.
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
Now I want a temperature probe.
ROFL.
I haven’t had one for over twenty years. I do have an infrared one though. A Fluke. Cost me a bloody fortune. Can nowdays get the equivalent on ebay for $10.
I think I got one with the DMM but chucked it out years ago because I didn’t know about using them in cooking. I have a good infrared one but it’s only accurate in the 20-42° range.
You could probably pick one up from bangood or equivalent for about 4$.
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:ROFL.
I haven’t had one for over twenty years. I do have an infrared one though. A Fluke. Cost me a bloody fortune. Can nowdays get the equivalent on ebay for $10.
I think I got one with the DMM but chucked it out years ago because I didn’t know about using them in cooking. I have a good infrared one but it’s only accurate in the 20-42° range.
You could probably pick one up from bangood or equivalent for about 4$.
>nods<
Now he’s talking about removing components to isolate for continuity checking. I know this is probably bread-and-butter stuff for some of us, but I would have scratched my head for a long time before I though of that.
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:ROFL.
I haven’t had one for over twenty years. I do have an infrared one though. A Fluke. Cost me a bloody fortune. Can nowdays get the equivalent on ebay for $10.
I think I got one with the DMM but chucked it out years ago because I didn’t know about using them in cooking. I have a good infrared one but it’s only accurate in the 20-42° range.
You could probably pick one up from bangood or equivalent for about 4$.
Bangood, they’ve got a terrible web site, well in IE it is.
And it will take a year to get here.
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:ROFL.
I haven’t had one for over twenty years. I do have an infrared one though. A Fluke. Cost me a bloody fortune. Can nowdays get the equivalent on ebay for $10.
I think I got one with the DMM but chucked it out years ago because I didn’t know about using them in cooking. I have a good infrared one but it’s only accurate in the 20-42° range.
You could probably pick one up from bangood or equivalent for about 4$.
I LIED
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/5PCS-K-Type-Probe-Thermocouple-Temperature-Sensor-Cable-with-1M-Wire/184065390078?hash=item2adb26f5fe:g:w5cAAOSwTrZefgkj
Five of them for $15.41 or or 4 payments of AU $3.85 with Afterpay.
sibeen said:
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:I think I got one with the DMM but chucked it out years ago because I didn’t know about using them in cooking. I have a good infrared one but it’s only accurate in the 20-42° range.
You could probably pick one up from bangood or equivalent for about 4$.
I LIED
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/5PCS-K-Type-Probe-Thermocouple-Temperature-Sensor-Cable-with-1M-Wire/184065390078?hash=item2adb26f5fe:g:w5cAAOSwTrZefgkj
Five of them for $15.41 or or 4 payments of AU $3.85 with Afterpay.
I actually just looked at those figures and did a bit of a blink.
I could save myself a cent by going the afterpay route.
rubs hands together vigourously
sibeen said:
sibeen said:
sibeen said:You could probably pick one up from bangood or equivalent for about 4$.
I LIED
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/5PCS-K-Type-Probe-Thermocouple-Temperature-Sensor-Cable-with-1M-Wire/184065390078?hash=item2adb26f5fe:g:w5cAAOSwTrZefgkj
Five of them for $15.41 or or 4 payments of AU $3.85 with Afterpay.
I actually just looked at those figures and did a bit of a blink.
I could save myself a cent by going the afterpay route.
rubs hands together vigourously
You’re a monster!
You’ve just cost some Chinese kid an hours pay.
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:
sibeen said:I LIED
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/5PCS-K-Type-Probe-Thermocouple-Temperature-Sensor-Cable-with-1M-Wire/184065390078?hash=item2adb26f5fe:g:w5cAAOSwTrZefgkj
Five of them for $15.41 or or 4 payments of AU $3.85 with Afterpay.
I actually just looked at those figures and did a bit of a blink.
I could save myself a cent by going the afterpay route.
rubs hands together vigourously
You’re a monster!
You’ve just cost some Chinese kid an hours pay.
It was her choice to live in a shitty country, Don’t be blaming me.
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:I actually just looked at those figures and did a bit of a blink.
I could save myself a cent by going the afterpay route.
rubs hands together vigourously
You’re a monster!
You’ve just cost some Chinese kid an hours pay.
It was her choice to live in a shitty country, Don’t be blaming me.
And she’s female! There’s only, like, eleven of them in the whole country!
You bastard!
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:You’re a monster!
You’ve just cost some Chinese kid an hours pay.
It was her choice to live in a shitty country, Don’t be blaming me.
And she’s female! There’s only, like, eleven of them in the whole country!
You bastard!
She chose to live in a patriarchal society, again, not my fault.
Did Bubblecar show up in the end?
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:It was her choice to live in a shitty country, Don’t be blaming me.
And she’s female! There’s only, like, eleven of them in the whole country!
You bastard!
She chose to live in a patriarchal society, again, not my fault.
That’s fair, I guess. Her fault.
Neophyte said:
Did Bubblecar show up in the end?
He did peep in.
sibeen said:
Neophyte said:
Did Bubblecar show up in the end?
He did peep in.
Phew….too many Forum types expiring around here as it is
Neophyte said:
sibeen said:
Neophyte said:
Did Bubblecar show up in the end?
He did peep in.
Phew….too many Forum types expiring around here as it is
Yes. Trev’s list was scary but this is one you really don’t want to be on.

Why is Robert Zerfing not feeling a-okay?
dv said:
![]()
Why is Robert Zerfing not feeling a-okay?
:(
I think I am becoming scared. ie more scared than normal.
dv said:
![]()
Why is Robert Zerfing not feeling a-okay?
Maybe he doesn’t understand the question?
dv said:
![]()
Why is Robert Zerfing not feeling a-okay?
Christ. It was 2017, Was this even a thing back then?
sibeen said:
dv said:
![]()
Why is Robert Zerfing not feeling a-okay?
Christ. It was 2017, Was this even a thing back then?
That guy’s a house negro.
sibeen said:
Christ. It was 2017, Was this even a thing back then?
It’s not a thing now, outside a small number of zealots and SCUBA divers.
esselte said:
sibeen said:Christ. It was 2017, Was this even a thing back then?
It’s not a thing now, outside a small number of zealots and SCUBA divers.
It is in the eye of the beholder…
esselte said:
sibeen said:Christ. It was 2017, Was this even a thing back then?
It’s not a thing now, outside a small number of zealots and SCUBA divers.
I’ve just looked it up. This is according to wiki:
In 2017, users on the message-board site 4chan aimed to convince the media that the OK gesture, or the upside-down version of it, was being used as a white power movement symbol. According to The Boston Globe, users on 4chan’s /pol/ (“Politically Incorrect”) board were instructed in February 2017 to “flood Twitter and other social media websites…claiming that the OK hand sign is a symbol of white supremacy,” as part of a campaign dubbed “Operation O-KKK”.
So the people in the photo were really, really, really early adopters of the meme on the third of March 2017, or they were just making an OK sign.
I’m torn on which way to go here. Really torn. I reckon Matteo looks particularly racist. The cunt.
sibeen said:
esselte said:
sibeen said:Christ. It was 2017, Was this even a thing back then?
It’s not a thing now, outside a small number of zealots and SCUBA divers.
I’ve just looked it up. This is according to wiki:
In 2017, users on the message-board site 4chan aimed to convince the media that the OK gesture, or the upside-down version of it, was being used as a white power movement symbol. According to The Boston Globe, users on 4chan’s /pol/ (“Politically Incorrect”) board were instructed in February 2017 to “flood Twitter and other social media websites…claiming that the OK hand sign is a symbol of white supremacy,” as part of a campaign dubbed “Operation O-KKK”.
So the people in the photo were really, really, really early adopters of the meme on the third of March 2017, or they were just making an OK sign.
I’m torn on which way to go here. Really torn. I reckon Matteo looks particularly racist. The cunt.
Closer examination leads to further speculation. Philip Arola, the bloke on the right, is using his left hand. Does this make him an anti-racist? Was he an infiltrator? Did he survive the meeting or was he sacrificed in an evil satanic ritual? So many questions.
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:
dv said:
![]()
Why is Robert Zerfing not feeling a-okay?
Christ. It was 2017, Was this even a thing back then?
That guy’s a house negro.
I think Obama’s talking about trying to get to Mordor.
sarahs mum said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:Christ. It was 2017, Was this even a thing back then?
That guy’s a house negro.
I think Obama’s talking about trying to get to Mordor.
I mean this is ridiculous. A finger sign has gone from being OK (sic) to evil in the span of three years. People have been hung out to dry for making it.
This is 1984.
dv said:
![]()
Why is Robert Zerfing not feeling a-okay?
I’ve just noticed. Derick’s tie is exactly the same as Roger’s. What an absolute suck up, and let’s face it, it doesn’t work with the brown shirt.
He’s probably (likely) a racist.
Ian Holm has died
dv said:
Ian Holm has died
seems ridiculous, someone is alive 3 years ago and now someone is not alive
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
Ian Holm has died
seems ridiculous, someone is alive 3 years ago and now someone is not alive
Probably made the OK sign at some stage as well.
burp
finished that cup of tea, ought stoke my fire in a moment
foggy night, not too cold, walked the larry I did, checked barbara way past, she’s up in her tree, and checked missy too, she’s fine
all the animal pets are fine, 11:49 and all is well
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
Witty Rejoinder said:That guy’s a house negro.
I think Obama’s talking about trying to get to Mordor.
I mean this is ridiculous. A finger sign has gone from being OK (sic) to evil in the span of three years. People have been hung out to dry for making it.
This is 1984.
No- this is the proud boys/8 chan/ 4 chan/grab em by the pussy people. They will own all the symbols soon.
dv said:
Ian Holm has died
:(
it seems like people are dropping like flies.
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:I think Obama’s talking about trying to get to Mordor.
I mean this is ridiculous. A finger sign has gone from being OK (sic) to evil in the span of three years. People have been hung out to dry for making it.
This is 1984.
No- this is the proud boys/8 chan/ 4 chan/grab em by the pussy people. They will own all the symbols soon.
fair, it’sn’t too difficult to see a way to interpret this as

grab em by the pussy
SCIENCE said:
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:I mean this is ridiculous. A finger sign has gone from being OK (sic) to evil in the span of three years. People have been hung out to dry for making it.
This is 1984.
No- this is the proud boys/8 chan/ 4 chan/grab em by the pussy people. They will own all the symbols soon.
fair, it’sn’t too difficult to see a way to interpret this as
grab em by the pussy
sorry our bad fixed
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:I think Obama’s talking about trying to get to Mordor.
I mean this is ridiculous. A finger sign has gone from being OK (sic) to evil in the span of three years. People have been hung out to dry for making it.
This is 1984.
No- this is the proud boys/8 chan/ 4 chan/grab em by the pussy people. They will own all the symbols soon.
No. Deevs has put up a photo of a group of people from March 97, if the tag on the photo can be believed, and the suggestion is that these are all racist motherfuckers because they are making a racist sign. It’s either that or it’s his family snap.
How can you blame people for making a racist sign when the month before the same thing was called the OK sign? That is what I’m calling out because I could nearly guarantee that there’s photos of me making that sign. They may be thirty years old but that won’t make a difference.
Ever made the OK sign, sm? Ever had a photo of the same?SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
sarahs mum said:No- this is the proud boys/8 chan/ 4 chan/grab em by the pussy people. They will own all the symbols soon.
fair, it’sn’t too difficult to see a way to interpret this as
grab em by the pussy
sorry our bad fixed
ROFL
fucking nazis
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:I mean this is ridiculous. A finger sign has gone from being OK (sic) to evil in the span of three years. People have been hung out to dry for making it.
This is 1984.
No- this is the proud boys/8 chan/ 4 chan/grab em by the pussy people. They will own all the symbols soon.
No. Deevs has put up a photo of a group of people from March 97, if the tag on the photo can be believed, and the suggestion is that these are all racist motherfuckers because they are making a racist sign. It’s either that or it’s his family snap.
How can you blame people for making a racist sign when the month before the same thing was called the OK sign? That is what I’m calling out because I could nearly guarantee that there’s photos of me making that sign. They may be thirty years old but that won’t make a difference.
Ever made the OK sign, sm? Ever had a photo of the same?
But when we made okay signs we were making okay signs.
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:No- this is the proud boys/8 chan/ 4 chan/grab em by the pussy people. They will own all the symbols soon.
No. Deevs has put up a photo of a group of people from March 97, if the tag on the photo can be believed, and the suggestion is that these are all racist motherfuckers because they are making a racist sign. It’s either that or it’s his family snap.
How can you blame people for making a racist sign when the month before the same thing was called the OK sign? That is what I’m calling out because I could nearly guarantee that there’s photos of me making that sign. They may be thirty years old but that won’t make a difference.
Ever made the OK sign, sm? Ever had a photo of the same?But when we made okay signs we were making okay signs.
And so where these people.
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:I mean this is ridiculous. A finger sign has gone from being OK (sic) to evil in the span of three years. People have been hung out to dry for making it.
This is 1984.
No- this is the proud boys/8 chan/ 4 chan/grab em by the pussy people. They will own all the symbols soon.
No. Deevs has put up a photo of a group of people from March 97, if the tag on the photo can be believed, and the suggestion is that these are all racist motherfuckers because they are making a racist sign. It’s either that or it’s his family snap.
How can you blame people for making a racist sign when the month before the same thing was called the OK sign? That is what I’m calling out because I could nearly guarantee that there’s photos of me making that sign. They may be thirty years old but that won’t make a difference.
Ever made the OK sign, sm? Ever had a photo of the same?
I’ll fix this up.
I meant 17 and not 97.
he Liberal Party’s proposal makes the study of Foreign languages and English much cheaper (from $6,800 now to $3,700 proposed), Creative arts, where many art history courses reside (from $6,804 up to $11,300) and the Humanities, where some art history, history and philosophy courses reside (from $6,804 to to a staggering $14,500) in an attempt to breed historical cultural amnesia.
That’s a lot of money to discuss Heidegger.
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:I think Obama’s talking about trying to get to Mordor.
I mean this is ridiculous. A finger sign has gone from being OK (sic) to evil in the span of three years. People have been hung out to dry for making it.
This is 1984.
No- this is the proud boys/8 chan/ 4 chan/grab em by the pussy people. They will own all the symbols soon.
Ownership implies exclusive rights or control. Deny them this and you deny them ownership.
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:No. Deevs has put up a photo of a group of people from March 97, if the tag on the photo can be believed, and the suggestion is that these are all racist motherfuckers because they are making a racist sign. It’s either that or it’s his family snap.
How can you blame people for making a racist sign when the month before the same thing was called the OK sign? That is what I’m calling out because I could nearly guarantee that there’s photos of me making that sign. They may be thirty years old but that won’t make a difference.
Ever made the OK sign, sm? Ever had a photo of the same?But when we made okay signs we were making okay signs.
And so where these people.
were
In fairness though we already knew Roger Stone was a racist cunt without this picture. Derrick Lancaster is a prominent Proud Boy.
dv said:
In fairness though we already knew Roger Stone was a racist cunt without this picture. Derrick Lancaster is a prominent Proud Boy.
Without this picture?
This is what is shitting me. Roger be a racist cunt. So may Derrick, shit they all may be, but someone is backstorying this photo big time with the OK sign and its implications.
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:I mean this is ridiculous. A finger sign has gone from being OK (sic) to evil in the span of three years. People have been hung out to dry for making it.
This is 1984.
No- this is the proud boys/8 chan/ 4 chan/grab em by the pussy people. They will own all the symbols soon.
No. Deevs has put up a photo of a group of people from March 97, if the tag on the photo can be believed, and the suggestion is that these are all racist motherfuckers because they are making a racist sign. It’s either that or it’s his family snap.
How can you blame people for making a racist sign when the month before the same thing was called the OK sign? That is what I’m calling out because I could nearly guarantee that there’s photos of me making that sign. They may be thirty years old but that won’t make a difference.
Ever made the OK sign, sm? Ever had a photo of the same?
This isn’t a picture from March 1997. Lancaster would have been a child 23 years ago.
Rage has got some good golden oldies on it tonight.
I didn’t mean to set you off, sobeen, I just wanted to do a joke about that Zerfing guy whoever he is. Like “wait this isn’t the Mason’s lodge!!”
Woodie said:
Rage has got some good golden oldies on it tonight.
……..while I sit here doing two job applications.
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
Ian Holm has died
seems ridiculous, someone is alive 3 years ago and now someone is not alive
Shit happens.
hey poindexter what is that piece of music that sounds a bit like the Alfred Hitchcock theme but a bit more upbeat?
dv said:
I didn’t mean to set you off, sobeen, I just wanted to do a joke about that Zerfing guy whoever he is. Like “wait this isn’t the Mason’s lodge!!”
It isn’t my fault. I didn’t start this.
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
I didn’t mean to set you off, sobeen, I just wanted to do a joke about that Zerfing guy whoever he is. Like “wait this isn’t the Mason’s lodge!!”
It isn’t my fault. I didn’t start this.
I started it but I didn’t mean to
dv said:
hey poindexter what is that piece of music that sounds a bit like the Alfred Hitchcock theme but a bit more upbeat?
danse macabre?
dv said:
I didn’t mean to set you off, sobeen, I just wanted to do a joke about that Zerfing guy whoever he is. Like “wait this isn’t the Mason’s lodge!!”
Deevs, the problem is that too many people see this as a pure left or right, right or wrong, completely disparate world views. I try to take it as both sides, whatever you call that, try to take it.
As an example, in the USA many on the left are crying out to “defund the police”. IDIOTS They should be crying out to icrease police funding by 100%. Better people, better ingraining, more time off, better interaction with the community…better results.Defund…ROFL
dv said:
hey poindexter what is that piece of music that sounds a bit like the Alfred Hitchcock theme but a bit more upbeat?
Funeral March of a Marionette is a short piece by Charles Gounod. They played it on ABC Classic FM earlier this week.
Woodie said:
Rage has got some good golden oldies on it tonight.
i’m not into the Sweet.
dv said:
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
I didn’t mean to set you off, sobeen, I just wanted to do a joke about that Zerfing guy whoever he is. Like “wait this isn’t the Mason’s lodge!!”
It isn’t my fault. I didn’t start this.
I started it but I didn’t mean to
Bullshit!
:)
dv said:
hey poindexter what is that piece of music that sounds a bit like the Alfred Hitchcock theme but a bit more upbeat?
In the Hall of the Mountain King?
sarahs mum said:
Woodie said:
Rage has got some good golden oldies on it tonight.
i’m not into the Sweet.
You weren’t a Hellraiser?
esselte said:
dv said:
hey poindexter what is that piece of music that sounds a bit like the Alfred Hitchcock theme but a bit more upbeat?
In the Hall of the Mountain King?
Gynt off, surely it can’t be that.
sibeen said:
dv said:
I didn’t mean to set you off, sobeen, I just wanted to do a joke about that Zerfing guy whoever he is. Like “wait this isn’t the Mason’s lodge!!”
Deevs, the problem is that too many people see this as a pure left or right, right or wrong, completely disparate world views. I try to take it as both sides, whatever you call that, try to take it.
As an example, in the USA many on the left are crying out to “defund the police”. IDIOTS They should be crying out to icrease police funding by 100%. Better people, better ingraining, more time off, better interaction with the community…better results.Defund…ROFL
they meant defund the corrupt and bigoted police, but you know, black all lives matter so defund corrupt and bigoted all police
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
Woodie said:
Rage has got some good golden oldies on it tonight.
i’m not into the Sweet.
You weren’t a Hellraiser?
no.
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:i’m not into the Sweet.
You weren’t a Hellraiser?
no.
Not even at the ballroom blitz?
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:You weren’t a Hellraiser?
no.
Not even at the ballroom blitz?
It deserves its place in a history of rock and roll but it isn’t on my play list.
It’s still this early in the night. I only went to bed two hours ago.
dv said:
I didn’t mean to set you off, sobeen, I just wanted to do a joke about that Zerfing guy whoever he is. Like “wait this isn’t the Mason’s lodge!!”
Daz, what sets me off about this sort of shit is that I know I’ve probably been caught making that sign a few times on camera in my life. It means fuck all as it will never see the light of day. Some poor schmuck makes it now-days and it can be NEWS. I mean NEWS. An Australian cop was on the ABC news-site a few days ago for making the gesture.
That is just insane. That is feeding into the maelstrom. That is just feeding into the madness.
That’s why I posted the Obama photo.
Woodie said:
dv said:
hey poindexter what is that piece of music that sounds a bit like the Alfred Hitchcock theme but a bit more upbeat?
Funeral March of a Marionette is a short piece by Charles Gounod. They played it on ABC Classic FM earlier this week.
Yes bit that actually IS the theme from Hitchcock.
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
hey poindexter what is that piece of music that sounds a bit like the Alfred Hitchcock theme but a bit more upbeat?
danse macabre?
Mmm not that.
sibeen said:
dv said:
I didn’t mean to set you off, sobeen, I just wanted to do a joke about that Zerfing guy whoever he is. Like “wait this isn’t the Mason’s lodge!!”
Daz, what sets me off about this sort of shit is that I know I’ve probably been caught making that sign a few times on camera in my life. It means fuck all as it will never see the light of day. Some poor schmuck makes it now-days and it can be NEWS. I mean NEWS. An Australian cop was on the ABC news-site a few days ago for making the gesture.
That is just insane. That is feeding into the maelstrom. That is just feeding into the madness.
That’s why I posted the Obama photo.
So are you at all concerned that far right racist types can be found in the services?
esselte said:
dv said:
hey poindexter what is that piece of music that sounds a bit like the Alfred Hitchcock theme but a bit more upbeat?
In the Hall of the Mountain King?
These are all good answers and I’m grateful for the efforts but no
sibeen said:
dv said:
I didn’t mean to set you off, sobeen, I just wanted to do a joke about that Zerfing guy whoever he is. Like “wait this isn’t the Mason’s lodge!!”
Daz, what sets me off about this sort of shit is that I know I’ve probably been caught making that sign a few times on camera in my life. It means fuck all as it will never see the light of day. Some poor schmuck makes it now-days and it can be NEWS. I mean NEWS. An Australian cop was on the ABC news-site a few days ago for making the gesture.
That is just insane. That is feeding into the maelstrom. That is just feeding into the madness.
That’s why I posted the Obama photo.
okay
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:
dv said:
I didn’t mean to set you off, sobeen, I just wanted to do a joke about that Zerfing guy whoever he is. Like “wait this isn’t the Mason’s lodge!!”
Daz, what sets me off about this sort of shit is that I know I’ve probably been caught making that sign a few times on camera in my life. It means fuck all as it will never see the light of day. Some poor schmuck makes it now-days and it can be NEWS. I mean NEWS. An Australian cop was on the ABC news-site a few days ago for making the gesture.
That is just insane. That is feeding into the maelstrom. That is just feeding into the madness.
That’s why I posted the Obama photo.
So are you at all concerned that far right racist types can be found in the services?
I’m assuming that you mean Police services there. Racist fuckers can be found everywhere. As I stated in an earlier post, defunding the police is idiotic, increasing the funding is what the protesters in the USA should be asking for.
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:Daz, what sets me off about this sort of shit is that I know I’ve probably been caught making that sign a few times on camera in my life. It means fuck all as it will never see the light of day. Some poor schmuck makes it now-days and it can be NEWS. I mean NEWS. An Australian cop was on the ABC news-site a few days ago for making the gesture.
That is just insane. That is feeding into the maelstrom. That is just feeding into the madness.
That’s why I posted the Obama photo.
So are you at all concerned that far right racist types can be found in the services?
I’m assuming that you mean Police services there. Racist fuckers can be found everywhere. As I stated in an earlier post, defunding the police is idiotic, increasing the funding is what the protesters in the USA should be asking for.
It does seem that the Vic police have more than their share.
dv said:
Woodie said:
dv said:
hey poindexter what is that piece of music that sounds a bit like the Alfred Hitchcock theme but a bit more upbeat?
Funeral March of a Marionette is a short piece by Charles Gounod. They played it on ABC Classic FM earlier this week.
Yes bit that actually IS the theme from Hitchcock.
Baby Elephant walk then.
Woodie said:
dv said:
Woodie said:Funeral March of a Marionette is a short piece by Charles Gounod. They played it on ABC Classic FM earlier this week.
Yes bit that actually IS the theme from Hitchcock.
Baby Elephant walk then.
Now, now, no need to bring up your weight, young Nige.
burp
There’s a fair chance that I’m rather pissed.
dv said:
esselte said:
dv said:
hey poindexter what is that piece of music that sounds a bit like the Alfred Hitchcock theme but a bit more upbeat?
In the Hall of the Mountain King?
These are all good answers and I’m grateful for the efforts but no
Laurel & Hardy theme?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwhxc3OCBjc
Aw, saw him just last week in Alien:
Ian Holm, star of Rings, Hobbit and Chariots, dies
https://www.smh.com.au/culture/celebrity/ian-holm-star-of-rings-hobbit-and-chariots-dies-20200619-p554gk.html
dv said:
hey poindexter what is that piece of music that sounds a bit like the Alfred Hitchcock theme but a bit more upbeat?
Can you be a bit more specific?
mollwollfumble said:
dv said:
hey poindexter what is that piece of music that sounds a bit like the Alfred Hitchcock theme but a bit more upbeat?
Can you be a bit more specific?
It’s OK, it was all sorted.
We worked out that it was a song called “Hey Jude”. The band was an insects name that doesn’t come to mind.
sibeen said:
mollwollfumble said:
dv said:
hey poindexter what is that piece of music that sounds a bit like the Alfred Hitchcock theme but a bit more upbeat?
Can you be a bit more specific?
It’s OK, it was all sorted.
We worked out that it was a song called “Hey Jude”. The band was an insects name that doesn’t come to mind.
So let it out. And let it in.
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:
mollwollfumble said:Can you be a bit more specific?
It’s OK, it was all sorted.
We worked out that it was a song called “Hey Jude”. The band was an insects name that doesn’t come to mind.
So let it out. And let it in.
Na na na na.
dv said:
![]()
Why is Robert Zerfing not feeling a-okay?
aren’t these guys members of the Portland Proud Boys?
Mornin’.
I’m still in bed. Mini me is watching Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. Jellybean is sleeping in her nest between me n mr mutant. Mr mutant is reading news on his phone.
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 8 degrees. Forecast is for showers and 13 degrees. At the moment there isn’t much cloud about though and the radar is fairly clear.
I was affronted this morn.
roughbarked said:
I was affronted this morn.
Hardly had time to photograph it though as it came through at great speed.
Hmm, I see I am in furious agreement with sibeen over something. Although I did realize earlier in the week that the OK sign I pictured, which uses middle finger and thumb, is actually a bit of yoga that must have infiltrated my child brain in the 1960s. I checked with Mr buffy and the thumb and first finger is the one used by a diver/can’t hear you over this deafening noise/my deaf patients in a consultation. Although the deaf patients also used thumbs up.
roughbarked said:
I was affronted this morn.
Looks cold.
Just been having a look at Jupiter. Can see 3 moons. Bit cold outside atm.

Bellamy salute. US school kids 1941 saluting the flag.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellamy_salute
I guess neo nazis are just saluting the flag .
something about ducks.
JudgeMental said:
![]()
Bellamy salute. US school kids 1941 saluting the flag.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellamy_salute
I guess neo nazis are just saluting the flag .
something about ducks.
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/history-of-the-swastika
Maybe neo nazis are just history buffs.
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 8 degrees. Forecast is for showers and 13 degrees. At the moment there isn’t much cloud about though and the radar is fairly clear.
16° Misty drizzle. 8/8ths cloud.
With the OK sign, I have a bit of trouble with the implication that everyone here would know all bits of American “culture”. It’s a well established sign, and widely used in the country areas here. I have no idea if it’s as widely used in America. Perhaps it is not, and these people think it can be their “secret sign”.
Divine Angel said:
roughbarked said:
I was affronted this morn.
Looks cold.
13.7°C heels like 11, heading apparently for 17.
Woodie said:
Woodie said:
Rage has got some good golden oldies on it tonight.
……..while I sit here doing two job applications.
Wait, what?


JudgeMental said:
![]()
Bellamy salute. US school kids 1941 saluting the flag.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellamy_salute
I guess neo nazis are just saluting the flag .
something about ducks.
Ta.
TIL…
JudgeMental said:
Tamb said:
JudgeMental said:
![]()
Pretty bad form not proofreading his post.
Ha!
:)
Michael V said:
JudgeMental said:
![]()
Bellamy salute. US school kids 1941 saluting the flag.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellamy_salute
I guess neo nazis are just saluting the flag .
something about ducks.
Ta.
TIL…
I’m surprised you didn’t know about that MV. Although I don’t really know why I know about that. I couldn’t have brought the name to mind, but I did know that salute existed.
Mr Mutant: “I need to replace the toilet today. Should take about 15 minutes for a pro, so I guess about an hour for me.”
Me: “I put $10 on half a day.”
buffy said:
Hmm, I see I am in furious agreement with sibeen over something. Although I did realize earlier in the week that the OK sign I pictured, which uses middle finger and thumb, is actually a bit of yoga that must have infiltrated my child brain in the 1960s. I checked with Mr buffy and the thumb and first finger is the one used by a diver/can’t hear you over this deafening noise/my deaf patients in a consultation. Although the deaf patients also used thumbs up.
Not going to read all of last night’s chat, but my question is, how come racists have been allowed to hijack the OK sign anyway?
Why can’t non-racists take it back?
Divine Angel said:
Mr Mutant: “I need to replace the toilet today. Should take about 15 minutes for a pro, so I guess about an hour for me.”Me: “I put $10 on half a day.”
I’d say half a day would be pretty good going.
The Rev Dodgson said:
buffy said:
Hmm, I see I am in furious agreement with sibeen over something. Although I did realize earlier in the week that the OK sign I pictured, which uses middle finger and thumb, is actually a bit of yoga that must have infiltrated my child brain in the 1960s. I checked with Mr buffy and the thumb and first finger is the one used by a diver/can’t hear you over this deafening noise/my deaf patients in a consultation. Although the deaf patients also used thumbs up.
Not going to read all of last night’s chat, but my question is, how come racists have been allowed to hijack the OK sign anyway?
Why can’t non-racists take it back?
why can’t non-gays take gay back?
buffy said:
Michael V said:
JudgeMental said:
![]()
Bellamy salute. US school kids 1941 saluting the flag.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellamy_salute
I guess neo nazis are just saluting the flag .
something about ducks.
Ta.
TIL…
I’m surprised you didn’t know about that MV. Although I don’t really know why I know about that. I couldn’t have brought the name to mind, but I did know that salute existed.
I didn’t.
Although I do know the swastika was (and is) widely used in India from long before Nazi times.
JudgeMental said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
buffy said:
Hmm, I see I am in furious agreement with sibeen over something. Although I did realize earlier in the week that the OK sign I pictured, which uses middle finger and thumb, is actually a bit of yoga that must have infiltrated my child brain in the 1960s. I checked with Mr buffy and the thumb and first finger is the one used by a diver/can’t hear you over this deafening noise/my deaf patients in a consultation. Although the deaf patients also used thumbs up.
Not going to read all of last night’s chat, but my question is, how come racists have been allowed to hijack the OK sign anyway?
Why can’t non-racists take it back?
why can’t non-gays take gay back?
They can if they want to. I don’t recall hearing of non-gay people being criticised for using the word gay.
The Rev Dodgson said:
JudgeMental said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Not going to read all of last night’s chat, but my question is, how come racists have been allowed to hijack the OK sign anyway?
Why can’t non-racists take it back?
why can’t non-gays take gay back?
They can if they want to. I don’t recall hearing of non-gay people being criticised for using the word gay.
LOL, point missed. oh well.
JudgeMental said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
JudgeMental said:why can’t non-gays take gay back?
They can if they want to. I don’t recall hearing of non-gay people being criticised for using the word gay.
LOL, point missed. oh well.
Please explain. I think I missed the point, too.
JudgeMental said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
JudgeMental said:why can’t non-gays take gay back?
They can if they want to. I don’t recall hearing of non-gay people being criticised for using the word gay.
LOL, point missed. oh well.
So what was your point, my gay friend JudgeMental?
Divine Angel said:
Mr Mutant: “I need to replace the toilet today. Should take about 15 minutes for a pro, so I guess about an hour for me.”Me: “I put $10 on half a day.”
Is this just the pan, or the pan and cistern? Is the pan identical to the original? And why does it need replacing anyway?
Michael V said:
JudgeMental said:
The Rev Dodgson said:They can if they want to. I don’t recall hearing of non-gay people being criticised for using the word gay.
LOL, point missed. oh well.
Please explain. I think I missed the point, too.
it is about change through common usage. the OK sign is common usage for WP, just as gay is common usage for homosexuality. nothing to do with taking it back. the OK/WP sign was started as a joke on 4Chan and caught on. and if a bunch of supremacists use it you can be pretty sure it isn’t OK.
Indiana Bones, the Melbourne archaeology students and the fossil ‘jigsaw puzzle’ that wowed the world
Gluing together the delicate fragments of a fossilised skull in South Africa – and trying hard not to sneeze – two Melbourne students were astonished at what they saw. Could it be a direct ancestor from two million years ago?
https://www.theage.com.au/national/indiana-bones-the-melbourne-archaeology-students-and-the-fossil-jigsaw-puzzle-that-wowed-the-world-20200514-p54t22.html
The Rev Dodgson said:
JudgeMental said:
The Rev Dodgson said:They can if they want to. I don’t recall hearing of non-gay people being criticised for using the word gay.
LOL, point missed. oh well.
So what was your point, my gay friend JudgeMental?
go up to a stranger and say that.
:-)
JudgeMental said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
JudgeMental said:LOL, point missed. oh well.
So what was your point, my gay friend JudgeMental?
go up to a stranger and say that.
:-)
Rev is in Sydney. He may have a gay old time indeed.
town. shops. spend. visit. home.
JudgeMental said:
town. shops. spend. visit. home.
Can’t do that, it’s Sunday.
JudgeMental said:
Michael V said:
JudgeMental said:LOL, point missed. oh well.
Please explain. I think I missed the point, too.
it is about change through common usage. the OK sign is common usage for WP, just as gay is common usage for homosexuality. nothing to do with taking it back. the OK/WP sign was started as a joke on 4Chan and caught on. and if a bunch of supremacists use it you can be pretty sure it isn’t OK.
If that was your point, you seem to have missed my point.
Witty Rejoinder said:
JudgeMental said:
The Rev Dodgson said:So what was your point, my gay friend JudgeMental?
go up to a stranger and say that.
:-)
Rev is in Sydney. He may have a gay old time indeed.
i’ve had an old gaytime.
The Rev Dodgson said:
JudgeMental said:
Michael V said:Please explain. I think I missed the point, too.
it is about change through common usage. the OK sign is common usage for WP, just as gay is common usage for homosexuality. nothing to do with taking it back. the OK/WP sign was started as a joke on 4Chan and caught on. and if a bunch of supremacists use it you can be pretty sure it isn’t OK.
If that was your point, you seem to have missed my point.
No.
JudgeMental said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
JudgeMental said:go up to a stranger and say that.
:-)
Rev is in Sydney. He may have a gay old time indeed.
i’ve had an old gaytime.
JudgeMental said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
JudgeMental said:it is about change through common usage. the OK sign is common usage for WP, just as gay is common usage for homosexuality. nothing to do with taking it back. the OK/WP sign was started as a joke on 4Chan and caught on. and if a bunch of supremacists use it you can be pretty sure it isn’t OK.
If that was your point, you seem to have missed my point.
No.
But if you missed the point, you wouldn’t know that you had missed the point, so I’d say you did miss the point.
Tamb said:
JudgeMental said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Rev is in Sydney. He may have a gay old time indeed.
i’ve had an old gaytime.
Past its use-by date?
:-)
Haven’t really. don’t think i have ever had a gaytime.
Morning punters and correctors.
I’ll put up the scratchings for Eagle Farm shortly
Anyway, must go off and have a gay old time catching up with work.
I’ll leave you with this song, which raised some eyebrows amongst my non-gay mates, even back in the early 70’s:
TIL my local horse piddle is a teaching horse piddle.
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Mr Mutant: “I need to replace the toilet today. Should take about 15 minutes for a pro, so I guess about an hour for me.”Me: “I put $10 on half a day.”
Is this just the pan, or the pan and cistern? Is the pan identical to the original? And why does it need replacing anyway?
It’s the whole kit and kaboodle. It leaks and Mr Mutant broke it the first 12 times he tried to fix it. He’s not born for DIY, bless ‘im.
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Mr Mutant: “I need to replace the toilet today. Should take about 15 minutes for a pro, so I guess about an hour for me.”Me: “I put $10 on half a day.”
Is this just the pan, or the pan and cistern? Is the pan identical to the original? And why does it need replacing anyway?
It’s the whole kit and kaboodle. It leaks and Mr Mutant broke it the first 12 times he tried to fix it. He’s not born for DIY, bless ‘im.
I think it might be cheaper to just get a plumber in to do the job…
buffy said:
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:Is this just the pan, or the pan and cistern? Is the pan identical to the original? And why does it need replacing anyway?
It’s the whole kit and kaboodle. It leaks and Mr Mutant broke it the first 12 times he tried to fix it. He’s not born for DIY, bless ‘im.
I think it might be cheaper to just get a plumber in to do the job…
+100
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
Divine Angel said:It’s the whole kit and kaboodle. It leaks and Mr Mutant broke it the first 12 times he tried to fix it. He’s not born for DIY, bless ‘im.
I think it might be cheaper to just get a plumber in to do the job…
+100
Oh, it is. He won’t give in. We’ve been through this before, most notably when he broke the shower wall with a hammer… I thought that kid of thing only happened in sitcoms.
Divine Angel said:
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:I think it might be cheaper to just get a plumber in to do the job…
+100
Oh, it is. He won’t give in. We’ve been through this before, most notably when he broke the shower wall with a hammer… I thought that kid of thing only happened in sitcoms.
I should be filming this. Time lapse it, and put it on YouTube.
Right now Mini Me is mopping up water.
Dogs here would like to go for a walk. For the moment the sun is out. We’d better take the opportunity.
Divine Angel said:
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:I think it might be cheaper to just get a plumber in to do the job…
+100
Oh, it is. He won’t give in. We’ve been through this before, most notably when he broke the shower wall with a hammer… I thought that kid of thing only happened in sitcoms.
Well, I’d say you can buy all the flour you want…
;)
Divine Angel said:
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:I think it might be cheaper to just get a plumber in to do the job…
+100
Oh, it is. He won’t give in. We’ve been through this before, most notably when he broke the shower wall with a hammer… I thought that kid of thing only happened in sitcoms.
Some mothers do ‘ave ‘em.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Anyway, must go off and have a gay old time catching up with work.I’ll leave you with this song, which raised some eyebrows amongst my non-gay mates, even back in the early 70’s:
Ta, haven’t heard that for a while.
JudgeMental said:
Michael V said:
JudgeMental said:LOL, point missed. oh well.
Please explain. I think I missed the point, too.
it is about change through common usage. the OK sign is common usage for WP, just as gay is common usage for homosexuality. nothing to do with taking it back. the OK/WP sign was started as a joke on 4Chan and caught on. and if a bunch of supremacists use it you can be pretty sure it isn’t OK.
OK
mollwollfumble said:
JudgeMental said:
town. shops. spend. visit. home.
Can’t do that, it’s Sunday.
Really? Where?
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Mr Mutant: “I need to replace the toilet today. Should take about 15 minutes for a pro, so I guess about an hour for me.”Me: “I put $10 on half a day.”
Is this just the pan, or the pan and cistern? Is the pan identical to the original? And why does it need replacing anyway?
It’s the whole kit and kaboodle. It leaks and Mr Mutant broke it the first 12 times he tried to fix it. He’s not born for DIY, bless ‘im.
If he can do it properly in half a day, it’d be absolutely amazing.
Michael V said:
mollwollfumble said:
JudgeMental said:
town. shops. spend. visit. home.
Can’t do that, it’s Sunday.
Really? Where?
Moll still thinks it’s 1992.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Michael V said:
mollwollfumble said:Can’t do that, it’s Sunday.
Really? Where?
Moll still thinks it’s 1992.
In inconvenient, though possibly interesting, thing has happened overnight: The Anatomy posters have slid down the wall of my office.
The only explanation I have for this is that an unusual pairing of moisture and temperature has conspired to soften the Blu-Tac enough for it to release.
Sample poster included for sample:
Rule 303 said:
In inconvenient, though possibly interesting, thing has happened overnight: The Anatomy posters have slid down the wall of my office.The only explanation I have for this is that an unusual pairing of moisture and temperature has conspired to soften the Blu-Tac enough for it to release.
Sample poster included for sample:
dv said:
Wasn’t he supposed to marry his mother? If so IDGI.
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:
Wasn’t he supposed to marry his mother? If so IDGI.
IDGIE
The Rev Dodgson said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
dv said:
Wasn’t he supposed to marry his mother? If so IDGI.
IDGIE
OK, so his mum’s name was Jocasta.
I guess that has something to do with it.
Joe momma
The Rev Dodgson said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Wasn’t he supposed to marry his mother? If so IDGI.
IDGIE
OK, so his mum’s name was Jocasta.
I guess that has something to do with it.
Did he put his eye out so he couldn’t look lustfully on his mother?
Lidia Thorpe will be the next Greens senator for Victoria, the party has announced.
Victorian Greens members pre-selected Ms Thorpe with with what the party says was a historic 65 per cent voter turnout.
Ms Thorpe, a Gunai Kurnai woman, will replace former Greens Leader, Richard Di Natale, who announced his resignation from politics earlier this year.
Ms Thorpe was previously the first Aboriginal woman elected to the Parliament of Victoria, and served as the member for Northcote.
![]()
Old article but this may interest you Buffy:
Rediscovered rock art reveals an ancient monster
By Joe Hinchliffe
January 13, 2019 — 12.06am
Grampians rock art reveals ancient bunyip story
As Parks Victoria’s Aboriginal Heritage coordinator, Jake Goodes tells the story behind an ancient rock painting of a mythical Bunyip. Vision courtesy Justin McManus.
During the 1800s a beast unknown to science haunted the waterways of southern Australia. Like the saltwater crocodile of the north, the creature was said to ambush and devour its victims.
A few years before he became the first lieutenant-governor of Victoria in 1851, Charles La Trobe wrote of being “long convinced” of the bunyip’s existence, and lamented he didn’t have to time to hunt for proof.
None ever emerged. That is, nothing credible. The beast, it seemed, was apocryphal.
But now the bunyip has been found – or ancient rock drawings of it at least – in a shallow cave atop a cliff in the Mt Difficult Range. Four bunyips, to be precise, lurking in a sandstone shelter on an outcrop that commands sweeping views of the plains of north-western Victoria
Read more:
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/rediscovered-rock-art-reveals-an-ancient-monster-20190106-p50pu1.html
Witty Rejoinder said:
Old article but this may interest you Buffy:Rediscovered rock art reveals an ancient monster
By Joe Hinchliffe
January 13, 2019 — 12.06amGrampians rock art reveals ancient bunyip story
As Parks Victoria’s Aboriginal Heritage coordinator, Jake Goodes tells the story behind an ancient rock painting of a mythical Bunyip. Vision courtesy Justin McManus.
During the 1800s a beast unknown to science haunted the waterways of southern Australia. Like the saltwater crocodile of the north, the creature was said to ambush and devour its victims.
A few years before he became the first lieutenant-governor of Victoria in 1851, Charles La Trobe wrote of being “long convinced” of the bunyip’s existence, and lamented he didn’t have to time to hunt for proof.
None ever emerged. That is, nothing credible. The beast, it seemed, was apocryphal.
But now the bunyip has been found – or ancient rock drawings of it at least – in a shallow cave atop a cliff in the Mt Difficult Range. Four bunyips, to be precise, lurking in a sandstone shelter on an outcrop that commands sweeping views of the plains of north-western Victoria
Read more:
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/rediscovered-rock-art-reveals-an-ancient-monster-20190106-p50pu1.html
What’s that rumbling we hear, we think there’s some iron ore to be had in them there hills, can we get a couple of barrels of ANFO out there right now thanks.
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:Is this just the pan, or the pan and cistern? Is the pan identical to the original? And why does it need replacing anyway?
It’s the whole kit and kaboodle. It leaks and Mr Mutant broke it the first 12 times he tried to fix it. He’s not born for DIY, bless ‘im.
If he can do it properly in half a day, it’d be absolutely amazing.
I dunno.
I had to replace a couple of the screws that held the toilet bowl to the floor (nothing worse than a wobbly dunny). Removal of the toilet bowl, replace screws and fittings, replace bowl, connect everything up again – about two hours.
Which i thought wasn’t bad for a job of a type i’d never done before.
Divine Angel said:
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:I think it might be cheaper to just get a plumber in to do the job…
+100
Oh, it is. He won’t give in. We’ve been through this before, most notably when he broke the shower wall with a hammer… I thought that kid of thing only happened in sitcoms.
It’s like préjudice and stéréotype though isn’t it, they don’t generally arise out of zero evidence, just not necessarily good évidence.
SCIENCE said:
Divine Angel said:
Peak Warming Man said:+100
Oh, it is. He won’t give in. We’ve been through this before, most notably when he broke the shower wall with a hammer… I thought that kid of thing only happened in sitcoms.
It’s like préjudice and stéréotype though isn’t it, they don’t generally arise out of zero evidence, just not necessarily good évidence.
You just say that because you’re a shitty driver.
Who’s our software-defined radio guru again?
I have some questions…
11.5mm rain lastnight, some beautiful sunshine this more for while, now raining again
the good Lord provides
Rule 303 said:
In inconvenient, though possibly interesting, thing has happened overnight: The Anatomy posters have slid down the wall of my office.The only explanation I have for this is that an unusual pairing of moisture and temperature has conspired to soften the Blu-Tac enough for it to release.
Sample poster included for sample:
Mine only fell off the consulting room wall on really hot days. That was melted blutack, I’m pretty sure.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Old article but this may interest you Buffy:Rediscovered rock art reveals an ancient monster
By Joe Hinchliffe
January 13, 2019 — 12.06amGrampians rock art reveals ancient bunyip story
As Parks Victoria’s Aboriginal Heritage coordinator, Jake Goodes tells the story behind an ancient rock painting of a mythical Bunyip. Vision courtesy Justin McManus.
During the 1800s a beast unknown to science haunted the waterways of southern Australia. Like the saltwater crocodile of the north, the creature was said to ambush and devour its victims.
A few years before he became the first lieutenant-governor of Victoria in 1851, Charles La Trobe wrote of being “long convinced” of the bunyip’s existence, and lamented he didn’t have to time to hunt for proof.
None ever emerged. That is, nothing credible. The beast, it seemed, was apocryphal.
But now the bunyip has been found – or ancient rock drawings of it at least – in a shallow cave atop a cliff in the Mt Difficult Range. Four bunyips, to be precise, lurking in a sandstone shelter on an outcrop that commands sweeping views of the plains of north-western Victoria
Read more:
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/rediscovered-rock-art-reveals-an-ancient-monster-20190106-p50pu1.html
Thanks, hadn’t seen that one.
transition said:
11.5mm rain lastnight, some beautiful sunshine thismoremorn for while, now raining againthe good Lord provides
buffy said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Old article but this may interest you Buffy:Rediscovered rock art reveals an ancient monster
By Joe Hinchliffe
January 13, 2019 — 12.06amGrampians rock art reveals ancient bunyip story
As Parks Victoria’s Aboriginal Heritage coordinator, Jake Goodes tells the story behind an ancient rock painting of a mythical Bunyip. Vision courtesy Justin McManus.
During the 1800s a beast unknown to science haunted the waterways of southern Australia. Like the saltwater crocodile of the north, the creature was said to ambush and devour its victims.
A few years before he became the first lieutenant-governor of Victoria in 1851, Charles La Trobe wrote of being “long convinced” of the bunyip’s existence, and lamented he didn’t have to time to hunt for proof.
None ever emerged. That is, nothing credible. The beast, it seemed, was apocryphal.
But now the bunyip has been found – or ancient rock drawings of it at least – in a shallow cave atop a cliff in the Mt Difficult Range. Four bunyips, to be precise, lurking in a sandstone shelter on an outcrop that commands sweeping views of the plains of north-western Victoria
Read more:
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/rediscovered-rock-art-reveals-an-ancient-monster-20190106-p50pu1.html
Thanks, hadn’t seen that one.
So this rock art would probably be from the Old People. Those were the ones here 20,000 to 30,000 years ago, and during the last Ice Age when the weather wasn’t so good. The people of this district are, relatively speaking, younger. Linguists say the local language is around 5,000 years old and the mechanism for a new language is usually a new people. Probably arising out of the aftermath of the Ice Age. (paraphrased from The People of Gariwerd by Gib Wettenhall)
The Rev Dodgson said:
buffy said:
Hmm, I see I am in furious agreement with sibeen over something. Although I did realize earlier in the week that the OK sign I pictured, which uses middle finger and thumb, is actually a bit of yoga that must have infiltrated my child brain in the 1960s. I checked with Mr buffy and the thumb and first finger is the one used by a diver/can’t hear you over this deafening noise/my deaf patients in a consultation. Although the deaf patients also used thumbs up.
Not going to read all of last night’s chat, but my question is, how come racists have been allowed to hijack the OK sign anyway?
Why can’t non-racists take it back?
it’s largely bullshit trying to re-calibrate racism back to something neutral with anti-racism, because that becomes anti-racism racism
I refuse to buy into it, much better if the force of ideas recedes, fades even
cyclical fade of immediacy of ideas is quite normal of the constant effort of rebuilding memories, and people do every moment, reconstruct memories of mostly everything, (re)make it up, opportunity to drop useless ideas, unhelpful ideas, silly, and stupid
Poor Boris Johnson has been self- isolating from his barber. His hair is getting increasingly unruly.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Poor Boris Johnson has been self- isolating from his barber. His hair is getting increasingly unruly.
Or his barber is from Eastern Europe and has gone back home to avoid neonazi violence, Brexit and Covid.
transition said:
cyclical fade of immediacy of ideas is quite normal of the constant effort of rebuilding memories, and people do every moment, reconstruct memories of mostly everything, (re)make it up, opportunity to drop useless ideas, unhelpful ideas, silly, and stupid
I think I may be missing your point there.
Am I the only one here who had never heard of Juneteenth before?
sibeen said:
Am I the only one here who had never heard of Juneteenth before?
No.
sibeen said:
Am I the only one here who had never heard of Juneteenth before?
No, I’d never heard of it. I had to look it up. I presume my sister knows about it, having lived in Texas for well over 20 years, but somehow I hadn’t read her mind.
buffy said:
sibeen said:
Am I the only one here who had never heard of Juneteenth before?
No, I’d never heard of it. I had to look it up. I presume my sister knows about it, having lived in Texas for well over 20 years, but somehow I hadn’t read her mind.
Nope, hadn’t heard of it until the recent kerfuffle.
And I’ll bet most Americans would struggle to have heard of our Apology. Or Reconciliation Week. It’s just one of those cultural things.
Lunch: Ham and green tomato relish sammich.
sibeen said:
Am I the only one here who had never heard of Juneteenth before?
No. I am also sufficiently culturally disconnected and disengaged with US culture to have remained ignorant of it for the last 48 years and 3 weeks.
Hmm.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-20/us-navy-uss-theodore-roosevelt-captain-brett-crozier-coronavirus/12376440
The Rev Dodgson said:
transition said:
cyclical fade of immediacy of ideas is quite normal of the constant effort of rebuilding memories, and people do every moment, reconstruct memories of mostly everything, (re)make it up, opportunity to drop useless ideas, unhelpful ideas, silly, and stupid
I think I may be missing your point there.
I don’t really have a point, more pondering aloud the possibility that fade is as important as the force of ideas, perhaps more important when the force of ideas displaces the former
buffy said:
And I’ll bet most Americans would struggle to have heard of our Apology. Or Reconciliation Week. It’s just one of those cultural things.
You’re on a pretty safe bet there. Most Americans have got shit for brains, as far as I can tell.
captain_spalding said:
Who’s our software-defined radio guru again?I have some questions…
Mr neutrino.
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
Who’s our software-defined radio guru again?I have some questions…
Mr neutrino.
He’s gone AWOL.
buffy said:
Hmm.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-20/us-navy-uss-theodore-roosevelt-captain-brett-crozier-coronavirus/12376440
The USN can be real shits when it comes to things like this. It’s rarely about working out what actually happened, or what was/needed to be done, but about making sure that someone gets the blame so that people higher up the ladder aren’t embarrassed.
They do it to their own people, and they’ve done it to us. And our Navy has done it, too.
Read ‘In The Wake Of’ by Jo Stevenson, the story of the Melbourne/Evans collision and its aftermath, and be gobsmacked at the travesty that passed for an inquiry and the injustice done to a good man.
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
Who’s our software-defined radio guru again?I have some questions…
Mr neutrino.
Thank you.
I’ll await his arrival.
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
Am I the only one here who had never heard of Juneteenth before?
No. I am also sufficiently culturally disconnected and disengaged with US culture to have remained ignorant of it for the last 48 years and 3 weeks.
sibeen said:
Am I the only one here who had never heard of Juneteenth before?
They mentioned it in Black-ish but I didn’t really know what it was about. Seems, not unsurprisingly, to be bigger news among black Americans than among white Australians.
sibeen said:
Am I the only one here who had never heard of Juneteenth before?
No. I only learnt about it the other day, from a news article, Ok?
OK, talking about terminology we might have missed out on knowing about. I’m reading a Laura Tingle piece and she mentions the “Shoppies Union”. I heard it the other day too. Prior to that, I’d not heard it. Is it a long standing name for the Shop, Distributive and Allied Employees Association?
buffy said:
Hmm.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-20/us-navy-uss-theodore-roosevelt-captain-brett-crozier-coronavirus/12376440
Yeah. It’s called “shooting the messenger”.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
Who’s our software-defined radio guru again?I have some questions…
Mr neutrino.
He’s gone AWOL.
I had noticed that. I wonder why?
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
Am I the only one here who had never heard of Juneteenth before?
No. I only learnt about it the other day, from a news article, Ok?
Yep.
I suspect it may be something that has only taken traction in the last few years but if anything deserves a holiday and national celebration I’d say that this one should be high on the list.
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:
Hmm.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-20/us-navy-uss-theodore-roosevelt-captain-brett-crozier-coronavirus/12376440
The USN can be real shits when it comes to things like this. It’s rarely about working out what actually happened, or what was/needed to be done, but about making sure that someone gets the blame so that people higher up the ladder aren’t embarrassed.
They do it to their own people, and they’ve done it to us. And our Navy has done it, too.
Read ‘In The Wake Of’ by Jo Stevenson, the story of the Melbourne/Evans collision and its aftermath, and be gobsmacked at the travesty that passed for an inquiry and the injustice done to a good man.
>>making sure that someone gets the blame so that people higher up the ladder aren’t embarrassed.<<
To the uninitiated like me, it certainly reads that way. Wasn’t the bloke asking for help from the beginning and not getting it?
buffy said:
OK, talking about terminology we might have missed out on knowing about. I’m reading a Laura Tingle piece and she mentions the “Shoppies Union”. I heard it the other day too. Prior to that, I’d not heard it. Is it a long standing name for the Shop, Distributive and Allied Employees Association?
Yeah.
Michael V said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Michael V said:Mr neutrino.
He’s gone AWOL.
I had noticed that. I wonder why?
Hopefully he’s okay.
buffy said:
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:
Hmm.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-20/us-navy-uss-theodore-roosevelt-captain-brett-crozier-coronavirus/12376440
The USN can be real shits when it comes to things like this. It’s rarely about working out what actually happened, or what was/needed to be done, but about making sure that someone gets the blame so that people higher up the ladder aren’t embarrassed.
They do it to their own people, and they’ve done it to us. And our Navy has done it, too.
Read ‘In The Wake Of’ by Jo Stevenson, the story of the Melbourne/Evans collision and its aftermath, and be gobsmacked at the travesty that passed for an inquiry and the injustice done to a good man.
>>making sure that someone gets the blame so that people higher up the ladder aren’t embarrassed.<<
To the uninitiated like me, it certainly reads that way. Wasn’t the bloke asking for help from the beginning and not getting it?
NO, IT’S ALL HIS FAULT! HE DIDN’T ASK! IF HE DID, WE DIDN’T KNOW ABOUT IT! HE’S TO BLAME! GOT IT?
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
Am I the only one here who had never heard of Juneteenth before?
No. I only learnt about it the other day, from a news article, Ok?
Yep.
I suspect it may be something that has only taken traction in the last few years but if anything deserves a holiday and national celebration I’d say that this one should be high on the list.
It’s apparently a holiday in 47 states, and the District of Columbia. But Trump had forgotten about it
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:
Am I the only one here who had never heard of Juneteenth before?
No.
Yes, you are not.
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:
captain_spalding said:The USN can be real shits when it comes to things like this. It’s rarely about working out what actually happened, or what was/needed to be done, but about making sure that someone gets the blame so that people higher up the ladder aren’t embarrassed.
They do it to their own people, and they’ve done it to us. And our Navy has done it, too.
Read ‘In The Wake Of’ by Jo Stevenson, the story of the Melbourne/Evans collision and its aftermath, and be gobsmacked at the travesty that passed for an inquiry and the injustice done to a good man.
>>making sure that someone gets the blame so that people higher up the ladder aren’t embarrassed.<<
To the uninitiated like me, it certainly reads that way. Wasn’t the bloke asking for help from the beginning and not getting it?
NO, IT’S ALL HIS FAULT! HE DIDN’T ASK! IF HE DID, WE DIDN’T KNOW ABOUT IT! HE’S TO BLAME! GOT IT?
Oh, and further…how does rostered quarantine work? I don’t understand. Do you test the entire ship and send the ones who test positive onshore for quarantine and then do another round of testing after two weeks or something? Makes little sense to me. You’d need to be testing the remaining folk each day to pick up the positives as they came out. And then sending them off.
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
Am I the only one here who had never heard of Juneteenth before?
No. I only learnt about it the other day, from a news article, Ok?
Yep.
I suspect it may be something that has only taken traction in the last few years but if anything deserves a holiday and national celebration I’d say that this one should be high on the list.
I dunno about it only gaining traction in the past few years. More likely it has simply never been reported so widely until an ill-timed election campaign event.
buffy said:
OK, talking about terminology we might have missed out on knowing about. I’m reading a Laura Tingle piece and she mentions the “Shoppies Union”. I heard it the other day too. Prior to that, I’d not heard it. Is it a long standing name for the Shop, Distributive and Allied Employees Association?
I’ve heard it before
I didn’t know about Juneteenth until this week, and only because of Mr Mutant.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Michael V said:
Witty Rejoinder said:He’s gone AWOL.
I had noticed that. I wonder why?
Hopefully he’s okay.
Everyone needs a backup person with their forum details so if you die, we know about it.
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:
Michael V said:No. I only learnt about it the other day, from a news article, Ok?
Yep.
I suspect it may be something that has only taken traction in the last few years but if anything deserves a holiday and national celebration I’d say that this one should be high on the list.
I dunno about it only gaining traction in the past few years. More likely it has simply never been reported so widely until an ill-timed election campaign event.
It was well known enough for the WH to send a message out about it last year…
He then “paused the interview to ask an aide if she had heard of Juneteenth, and she pointed out that the White House had issued a statement last year commemorating the day”.Trump responded: “Oh really? We put out a statement? The Trump White House put out a statement? OK, OK. Good.”
dv said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:I dunno about it only gaining traction in the past few years. More likely it has simply never been reported so widely until an ill-timed election campaign event.
It was well known enough for the WH to send a message out about it last year…
He then “paused the interview to ask an aide if she had heard of Juneteenth, and she pointed out that the White House had issued a statement last year commemorating the day”.Trump responded: “Oh really? We put out a statement? The Trump White House put out a statement? OK, OK. Good.”
For that matter it is a paid public holiday in Texas, NY, and Virginia. You’d think people in those states would at least have heard of it.
From an Internet discussion forum that shall not be named:
“The fact that many of the smartest people in history – Einstein, Newton, Galilei, Hawking – have been physicists only supports that viewpoint.
And then there’s Musk.”
Just for sibeen :)
The Rev Dodgson said:
From an Internet discussion forum that shall not be named:“The fact that many of the smartest people in history – Einstein, Newton, Galilei, Hawking – have been physicists only supports that viewpoint.
And then there’s Musk.”Just for sibeen :)
ROFL
The Rev Dodgson said:
From an Internet discussion forum that shall not be named:“The fact that many of the smartest people in history – Einstein, Newton, Galilei, Hawking – have been physicists only supports that viewpoint.
And then there’s Musk.”Just for sibeen :)
Musk, sibeen, Osama bin Laden, it’s noble tradition
Divine Angel said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Michael V said:I had noticed that. I wonder why?
Hopefully he’s okay.
Everyone needs a backup person with their forum details so if you die, we know about it.
Mrs V has promised to let Woodie know and he will inform you all, should I cark it.
https://www.facebook.com/7976226799/posts/10158814812286800/?sfnsn=mo&d=n&vh=e
Play: what was Trump asked about?
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Hopefully he’s okay.
Everyone needs a backup person with their forum details so if you die, we know about it.
Mrs V has promised to let Woodie know and he will inform you all, should I cark it.
See, now there’s a spouse who knows how important the forum is to us!
The Vic cops are live on their Facebook page saying they’re going to enforce protestors and organisers if they’re not following the Chief Health Officer’s instructions: Observing social distancing and no more than 20 in a public gathering.
Divine Angel said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Michael V said:I had noticed that. I wonder why?
Hopefully he’s okay.
Everyone needs a backup person with their forum details so if you die, we know about it.
sibeen is my wingman.
Rule 303 said:
The Vic cops are live on their Facebook page saying they’re going to enforce protestors and organisers if they’re not following the Chief Health Officer’s instructions: Observing social distancing and no more than 20 in a public gathering.
Good.
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
The Vic cops are live on their Facebook page saying they’re going to enforce protestors and organisers if they’re not following the Chief Health Officer’s instructions: Observing social distancing and no more than 20 in a public gathering.
Good.
imagine if free speech meant that it was acceptable to use firearms to spell out death across someone’s chest
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
The Vic cops are live on their Facebook page saying they’re going to enforce protestors and organisers if they’re not following the Chief Health Officer’s instructions: Observing social distancing and no more than 20 in a public gathering.
Good.
Go on…?
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
The Vic cops are live on their Facebook page saying they’re going to enforce protestors and organisers if they’re not following the Chief Health Officer’s instructions: Observing social distancing and no more than 20 in a public gathering.
Good.
Go on…?
imagine if freedom of association meant it was acceptable to stack it all on some branch
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Hopefully he’s okay.
Everyone needs a backup person with their forum details so if you die, we know about it.
Mrs V has promised to let Woodie know and he will inform you all, should I cark it.
something of a deterrent or prophylaxis against death, whoever, anyone, here, wherever, licensed to talk about a person afterward
a question that visits me occasionally, who i’d want around when I departed the living (or to know, related) the list is in fact very short, barbara for sure, larry, and missy, any native birds, humans though i’m not overwhelmingly encouraged by, that thought, the prospect, but the reality is a person loses control over the situation when they depart
and dinner’s done, beef strips, mash spud, onion, diced carrot, rosemary, gravy all over, pepper, soy sauce
larry had some, might’ve got a little bit of onion too, not a life threatening amount, not sure what the LD50 of onion is for a dog
late lunch, whatever, that should have read
transition said:
late lunch, whatever, that should have read
we’re just breaking the fast, an iftar of sorts if you like
Toilet update: Mr Mutant is muttering to himself and watching YouTube videos on how to remove pipes from walls.
Lunch break for him.
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
The Vic cops are live on their Facebook page saying they’re going to enforce protestors and organisers if they’re not following the Chief Health Officer’s instructions: Observing social distancing and no more than 20 in a public gathering.
Good.
Go on…?
We’re in the midst of a pandemic.
I’m going to lie down and read. I could blame age. Or I could remind myself that I’m not as young as I used to be and moving very heavy large pots a couple of days ago was always going to be a Bad Idea. My lower back and bum muscles are not happy. Damn that 48 hours after thing that muscles do…
Tamb said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
Am I the only one here who had never heard of Juneteenth before?
No. I am also sufficiently culturally disconnected and disengaged with US culture to have remained ignorant of it for the last 48 years and 3 weeks.
Didn’t know. Don’t care.
Not surprising.
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:Good.
Go on…?
We’re in the midst of a pandemic.
FMD.
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:Go on…?
We’re in the midst of a pandemic.
FMD.
I really don’t know where you’re going with this.
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:We’re in the midst of a pandemic.
FMD.
I really don’t know where you’re going with this.
He’s asked you to “forgive my doubt”.
Surely that should be enough.
From another thread:
“Adult giant squids can grow as long as a school bus “
what’s that in Sydney Harbours?

A near-infrared, color image taken by NASA’s Cassini spacecraft shows the sun glinting off of north polar seas on Saturn’s largest moon, Titan. Similar glints were spotted from Earth in 2000 at Titan’s equator but Cassini found no evidence of liquid there. (NASA / JPL-Caltech / Univ. Arizona / Univ. Idaho)
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:Good.
Go on…?
We’re in the midst of a pandemic.
imagine if freedom of movement meant that CHINESE HACKERS should be able to access any and all devices connected to the INTERNET, 5G,VACCINES OR CHEMTRAILS !!!
Witty Rejoinder said:
Tamb said:
party_pants said:No. I am also sufficiently culturally disconnected and disengaged with US culture to have remained ignorant of it for the last 48 years and 3 weeks.
Didn’t know. Don’t care.Not surprising.
It is my fundamental right as a bipedal humanoid to disengage myself from US culture if I so wish.
party_pants said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Tamb said:Didn’t know. Don’t care.
Not surprising.
It is my fundamental right as a bipedal humanoid to disengage myself from US culture if I so wish.
I was referring to Tamb the forum’s unrepentant old racist.
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:Good.
Go on…?
We’re in the midst of a pandemic.
pfft. is that old thing still around?
Toilet update: he’s broken it so well that’s he will be calling a plumber.
I am trying so very hard not to laugh.
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:
We’re in the midst of a pandemic.
FMD.
I really don’t know where you’re going with this.
Nowhere. I thought there might have been more to your approval of the enforcement of the CHO’s restrictions.
I do hold the opinion that the protests seem much lower risk than other things we’re doing (shopping, for example), but that’s an argument for monitoring those activities more closely, not for allowing more protesting.
This would be a whole different conversation if we were in a country with a much higher current case load.
Divine Angel said:
Toilet update: he’s broken it so well that’s he will be calling a plumber.I am trying so very hard not to laugh.
at least he had a go
Divine Angel said:
Toilet update: he’s broken it so well that’s he will be calling a plumber.I am trying so very hard not to laugh.
I am about to start (trying) to make some dining chairs. This will test me.
Arts said:
Divine Angel said:
Toilet update: he’s broken it so well that’s he will be calling a plumber.I am trying so very hard not to laugh.
at least he had a go
My favourite quote: “…probably shouldn’t have sawn off the bit at the end though.”
Arts said:
Divine Angel said:
Toilet update: he’s broken it so well that’s he will be calling a plumber.I am trying so very hard not to laugh.
at least he had a go
Divine Angel said:
Toilet update: he’s broken it so well that’s he will be calling a plumber.I am trying so very hard not to laugh.
I might be able to help you out here. I train plumbers, y’know…
1. Never lick your fingers.
2. Minimum fall is 1:100
There you go. All done.
Ugh, shit. It would appear that an Essendon AFL player might have tested positive for Covid-10 (not drugs, this time…) and the boss is holding a press conference at 16:00 today. Could be all over…
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
Toilet update: he’s broken it so well that’s he will be calling a plumber.I am trying so very hard not to laugh.
I might be able to help you out here. I train plumbers, y’know…
1. Never lick your fingers.
2. Minimum fall is 1:100There you go. All done.
*takes notes
Witty Rejoinder said:
Arts said:
Divine Angel said:
Toilet update: he’s broken it so well that’s he will be calling a plumber.I am trying so very hard not to laugh.
at least he had a go
did you say “i told you so”
Witty Rejoinder said:
party_pants said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Not surprising.
It is my fundamental right as a bipedal humanoid to disengage myself from US culture if I so wish.
I was referring to Tamb the forum’s unrepentant old racist.
Rule 303 said:
Ugh, shit. It would appear that an Essendon AFL player might have tested positive for Covid-10 (not drugs, this time…) and the boss is holding a press conference at 16:00 today. Could be all over…
imagine if instead of congregating in masses densely around a city centre people used their freedom to speak associatively and movingly in more sensible and less disease-transmissive ways
Tamb said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
party_pants said:It is my fundamental right as a bipedal humanoid to disengage myself from US culture if I so wish.
I was referring to Tamb the forum’s unrepentant old racist.
Racist? Try realist or truthful.
I really no longer care about the problems in the US. They seem to be incapable of change.
like most people
Divine Angel said:
Arts said:
Divine Angel said:
Toilet update: he’s broken it so well that’s he will be calling a plumber.I am trying so very hard not to laugh.
at least he had a go
My favourite quote: “…probably shouldn’t have sawn off the bit at the end though.”
SCIENCE said:
Tamb said:
Witty Rejoinder said:I was referring to Tamb the forum’s unrepentant old racist.
Racist? Try realist or truthful.
I really no longer care about the problems in the US. They seem to be incapable of change.like most people
Tamb said:
SCIENCE said:
Tamb said:Racist? Try realist or truthful.
I really no longer care about the problems in the US. They seem to be incapable of change.like most people
As a nation they seem to have more problems than most.
populist democracy
Tamb said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
party_pants said:It is my fundamental right as a bipedal humanoid to disengage myself from US culture if I so wish.
I was referring to Tamb the forum’s unrepentant old racist.
Racist? Try realist or truthful.
I really no longer care about the problems in the US. They seem to be incapable of change.
Isn’t wider knowledge of Juneteenth a positive change that you care not to hear about?
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Hopefully he’s okay.
Everyone needs a backup person with their forum details so if you die, we know about it.
Mrs V has promised to let Woodie know and he will inform you all, should I cark it.
I’ll probably just slip away unnoticed.
Sam Newman has left Channel Nine following some more dingdong comments
Rule 303 said:
Ugh, shit. It would appear that an Essendon AFL player might have tested positive for Covid-10 (not drugs, this time…) and the boss is holding a press conference at 16:00 today. Could be all over…
Jesus, they’ve named the bloke!
Errrrmmm… Really?
;-/
Witty Rejoinder said:
Tamb said:
Witty Rejoinder said:I was referring to Tamb the forum’s unrepentant old racist.
Racist? Try realist or truthful.
I really no longer care about the problems in the US. They seem to be incapable of change.Isn’t wider knowledge of Juneteenth a positive change that you care not to hear about?
on the other hand we still have invasion day problems
Witty Rejoinder said:
Tamb said:
Witty Rejoinder said:I was referring to Tamb the forum’s unrepentant old racist.
Racist? Try realist or truthful.
I really no longer care about the problems in the US. They seem to be incapable of change.Isn’t wider knowledge of Juneteenth a positive change that you care not to hear about?
Tamb said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Tamb said:Racist? Try realist or truthful.
I really no longer care about the problems in the US. They seem to be incapable of change.Isn’t wider knowledge of Juneteenth a positive change that you care not to hear about?
The end of slavery but not the end of racism. Black people are still being shot.
And as you said you don’t care.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Tamb said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Isn’t wider knowledge of Juneteenth a positive change that you care not to hear about?
The end of slavery but not the end of racism. Black people are still being shot.And as you said you don’t care.
https://www.reverseaustralia.com/lookup/0284128250/
Caller: My Health Care
These people are scammers using the COVID-19 crisis to try to con the elderly into buying their wares. Their name makes them sound like a government agency, but they are actually a health supplements company trying to profiteer from the crisis. They rang me trying to sound like a government agency and saying that they were contacting all seniors in my suburb to make sure that they were safe in the crisis. God knows how they got my details, but it was definitely without my knowledge or consent. On NO ACCOUNT should you give them your health or other details.
Tamb said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Tamb said:The end of slavery but not the end of racism. Black people are still being shot.
And as you said you don’t care.
That’s true in a way. Of course I care about the murders but until the US does something positive I am no longer interested in their barbarism.
or as Tom Gleeson would say, “they are dead to me”.
coffee, + caramel biscuits, second now of biscuits, and lady’s taking them away from me, pointed to them only having .5 of a star of healthiness, I had two biscuits so that’s the equivalent of one star, I might’ve done better if she was a little slower, cared less
larry and I have been for a long walk
getting windy out there now, some rain, bit of a squall. Some cloud masses seem to have a lot of energy don’t they
PermeateFree said:
A near-infrared, color image taken by NASA’s Cassini spacecraft shows the sun glinting off of north polar seas on Saturn’s largest moon, Titan. Similar glints were spotted from Earth in 2000 at Titan’s equator but Cassini found no evidence of liquid there. (NASA / JPL-Caltech / Univ. Arizona / Univ. Idaho)
Nice.
transition said:
coffee, + caramel biscuits, second now of biscuits, and lady’s taking them away from me, pointed to them only having .5 of a star of healthiness, I had two biscuits so that’s the equivalent of one star, I might’ve done better if she was a little slower, cared lesslarry and I have been for a long walk
getting windy out there now, some rain, bit of a squall. Some cloud masses seem to have a lot of energy don’t they
Have had passing low flying storm cells.
Michael V said:
PermeateFree said:
A near-infrared, color image taken by NASA’s Cassini spacecraft shows the sun glinting off of north polar seas on Saturn’s largest moon, Titan. Similar glints were spotted from Earth in 2000 at Titan’s equator but Cassini found no evidence of liquid there. (NASA / JPL-Caltech / Univ. Arizona / Univ. Idaho)
Nice.
Great word, “glint”.
dv said:
Michael V said:
PermeateFree said:
A near-infrared, color image taken by NASA’s Cassini spacecraft shows the sun glinting off of north polar seas on Saturn’s largest moon, Titan. Similar glints were spotted from Earth in 2000 at Titan’s equator but Cassini found no evidence of liquid there. (NASA / JPL-Caltech / Univ. Arizona / Univ. Idaho)
Nice.
Great word, “glint”.
Glean a glint of evidence?
The lint utility attempts to detect features of the named C program files that are likely to be bugs, to be non-portable, or to be wasteful. It also performs stricter type checking than does the C compiler. The lint utility runs the C preprocessor as its first phase, with the preprocessor symbol “lint” defined to allow certain questionable code to be altered or skipped by lint. Therefore, this symbol should be thought of as a re- served word for all code that is to be checked by lint.
China’s answer to Rambo:
https://www.economist.com/china/2020/05/28/chinas-wolf-warrior-diplomacy-gamble?
China’s “Wolf Warrior” diplomacy gamble
Foreign policy is not like an action film
May 28th 2020 edition
Late one night this week, Chaguan brewed strong green tea and rewatched the highest-grossing film in Chinese history, “Wolf Warrior 2”. This action flick is both preposterous and oddly compelling, offering clues about the sort of China that modern-day patriots yearn to see on screen. That China is formidable. At one point the film’s hero, Leng Feng, a retired Chinese commando, uses a home-made crossbow to take on African mercenaries armed with tanks. Then he kills their American boss, a murderous racist who—moments before Leng punches him to death—sneers: “People like you will always be inferior to people like me.” The China of the film is self-confident. A crowd-pleasing scene shows warships of the People’s Liberation Army steaming towards a war-torn, pandemic-stricken corner of Africa to evacuate Chinese citizens, past American warships fleeing in the opposite direction.
The China of the movie is respected. A climactic scene sees the hero halt a battle by sticking a Chinese flag on his arm and holding it aloft. He then leads a convoy of Chinese and African refugees to safety between two rival armies, as awestruck commanders bellow: “Hold your fire! It’s the Chinese!”
Three years after its release, this noisy fantasy is back in the news. In an era of crises, from a global pandemic to an ever sharper contest between China and America, Chinese envoys and state media have gone on the attack. Ambassadors and official mouthpieces have threatened and insulted governments and elected politicians on every continent. Some have promoted conspiracy theories that America’s army spread covid-19. In China, this trend is being dubbed “Wolf Warrior diplomacy” by fans and critics alike. Actually, that is an insult to wolf warriors.
It is not hard to find Chinese who cheer the foreign ministry’s pugnacious new style. Against that, some members of China’s foreign-policy establishment express alarm over this assertiveness, calling it a mistake born of inexperience. That is letting foreign ministry hotheads off too easily. A well-travelled bunch, China’s quarrel-picking diplomats know how they sound. They are using aggression as a signal that China has grown strong, and is tired of waiting for the world to show respect and deference. To diplomatic and national-security hawks in Beijing, if some countries have to feel pain in order to understand that China’s rise is inevitable and that resistance is futile (and that no help is coming from an America consumed with its own problems), then that pain is itself a useful education. Nor is this approach about to stop. Reporters at the annual meeting of China’s legislature, the National People’s Congress, asked the foreign minister, Wang Yi, about “Wolf Warrior diplomacy”. He did not endorse the term but embraced its spirit. China’s diplomats “never pick a fight or bully others, but we have principles and guts”, he said. “We will push back against any deliberate insult to resolutely defend our national honour and dignity.”
Leng the wolf warrior would only half approve. His China is not merely feared. It is admired because it is generous, in deed and in spirit. In the film, doctors at a Chinese-funded hospital have given their lives to develop a vaccine for a deadly virus. Tasked with rescuing Chinese workers from a remote factory, Leng brings their African wives and colleagues too, even lying that a local boy is his son to sneak him aboard a Chinese ship. The film is strikingly respectful of international law. A lantern-jawed naval commander launches missiles to save the day only when a radio operator shouts news from the Chinese ambassador: “Sir, we have received authorisation from the United Nations!” The film ends with a giant passport filling the screen, and a promise that China will use its strength to protect citizens in danger abroad. Some Chinese audiences so liked this magnanimous, self-confident vision of their country that they sang the national anthem in their cinema seats.
The real-world China of 2020 is not magnanimous. Start with notions of brotherhood with Africa. In April thousands of African traders living in the southern city of Guangzhou were tested for covid and forced into quarantine, regardless of their travel histories. Some Africans were left to sleep on the streets after being evicted by landlords. Others were told by Chinese police to delete social-media posts complaining about mistreatment. Rather than apologise, Chinese diplomats and state media went on the offensive, declaring that “so-called discrimination against Africans” never happened and blaming anti-China forces for spreading “fake news”.
Cinematic promises to protect Chinese worldwide are not being kept, either. With officials desperate to avoid importing covid cases from America or elsewhere, flights to China remain severely limited, stranding hundreds of thousands of students abroad. Their fate divides netizens on Chinese social media, with many scorning overseas students as spoiled, unpatriotic rich kids.
Over the long run, being obnoxious has costs
This pandemic is that rare event: a crisis that frightens every country on Earth. Alas, the moment finds China in an exhaustingly narcissistic mood. Mr Wang, the foreign minister, declares covid-19 an “all-round test” of China’s social system and governance, which China has comprehensively passed. Such swagger offends plenty of foreign governments, especially when they are told to thank and praise China before they are allowed to buy Chinese medical kit. As for rising geopolitical tensions, Chinese officials deny any connection with their assertiveness. Instead they place all blame on established powers sulking about relative decline.
China is not the only large country consumed with its own grievances. America First is a narcissistic slogan, too. But there is at least a bleak candour to President Donald Trump’s pitch to the world. Unblushing self-interest is his brand. In contrast Chinese envoys talk of being a responsible, globally minded major power. Then they turn round and stoke nationalism at home, and play the obnoxious bully abroad. Fighting as a lone wolf is dangerous in an action film. It is even riskier as a foreign policy.
one of the cats around here, happened upon down the silos while walking the larry. Larry and I stalked it, stalked the stalker. Lady reckons it’s the one that flushed barbara from her roost couple weeks ago
roughbarked said:
https://www.reverseaustralia.com/lookup/0284128250/Caller: My Health Care
These people are scammers using the COVID-19 crisis to try to con the elderly into buying their wares. Their name makes them sound like a government agency, but they are actually a health supplements company trying to profiteer from the crisis. They rang me trying to sound like a government agency and saying that they were contacting all seniors in my suburb to make sure that they were safe in the crisis. God knows how they got my details, but it was definitely without my knowledge or consent. On NO ACCOUNT should you give them your health or other details.
That mob has rung here a few times, too. Latest being today. I am quite rude to them now.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-20/aspi-denies-sole-org-blaming-china-for-hacking/12376478
No Spoofs Here
Return of the paranoid style
Fake news is fooling more conservatives than liberals. Why?
As with the coronavirus itself, some people seem to be more vulnerable than others to the infodemic
International
Jun 3rd 2020 edition
“Doctors need three qualifications: to be able to lie and not get caught; to pretend to be honest; and to cause death without guilt.” So wrote Jean Froissart, a diarist of the Middle Ages, after an outbreak of bubonic plague in the 14th century. Fake news then meant rumours that the plague could be cured by sitting in a sewer, eating decade-old treacle or ingesting arsenic.
The “infodemic” around covid-19, declared by the World Health Organisation (who) in February, is not the world’s first outbreak of misinformation. This time the myths include the notion that the disease can be cured by drinking methanol, which has led to more than 700 deaths in Iran, and that it is spread by 5g transmitters, which has convinced arsonists in Britain to carry out more than 90 attacks on phone towers. Just as the virus lodges in people’s lungs, dangerous ideas are infecting their minds.
One big difference between the infodemics of the 1300s and 2020 is the rapid worldwide transmission of today’s nonsense, enabled by the internet. In March a poll by Gallup International of 28 countries in four continents found that in all of them, at least 16%—and as many as 58%—of people thought covid-19 was being deliberately spread (see chart 1). A clip of a film called “Plandemic”, which claims that a shadowy elite started the outbreak for profit, was uploaded on May 4th; within a week it had been seen 8m times and its star, Judy Mikovits, had topped Amazon’s bestseller list.
Social media enable people to share true news as well as the fake sort. But the fabulists seem to be winning. A study published in Nature in May found that, although pro-vaccine Facebook users outnumber anti-vaccine ones, the anti-vaxxers are better at forging links with non-aligned groups like school parents’ associations, so their number is growing faster. Among Americans, exposure to social media is associated with a greater likelihood of believing that the government created the virus or that officials exaggerate its seriousness, according to a recent paper in the Harvard Kennedy School’s Misinformation Review.
Broadcasters in many countries need a licence and must convince regulators that they try to report the news truthfully. Few such constraints apply to the internet. In April Britain’s broadcasting watchdog, Ofcom, censured a tiny tv station called London Live for airing part of an interview with David Icke, a conspiracy theorist who believes the pandemic is a hoax. The broadcast had been watched by only 80,000 people. Yet at the time of Ofcom’s ruling 6m had viewed the full interview on YouTube, which is outside Ofcom’s jurisdiction.
YouTube has since taken the video down, along with many others. Section 230 of America’s Communications Decency Act absolves tech firms of responsibility in that country for fact-checking uploaded content. But President Donald Trump wants to change this (see article). Even if he is blocked by the courts, public opinion favours more intervention. In America 84% say social networks should delete posts that they suspect contain inaccurate information about covid-19. Half that number say they should do so without confirming the posts are false. Tech firms have thus begun to add warnings to false information and signposts to reliable sources.
Covid-19 may seem a relatively straightforward subject on which to play censor. Compared with, say, politics, “it’s easier to set policies that are a little more black and white and take a much harder line,” Mark Zuckerberg, Facebook’s boss, told the New York Times in March. Yet it is proving tricky. The science is changing rapidly. In February America’s surgeon-general tweeted that facemasks were “NOT effective in preventing general public from catching coronavirus”. Now he says they are.
Worse, any hope that the pandemic would be politically uncontentious has evaporated. In March Mr Zuckerberg said Facebook had no problem taking down “things like ‘You can cure this by drinking bleach.’ I mean, that’s just in a different class”. Yet weeks later Mr Trump suggested it might help to inject disinfectant. Facebook, Twitter and YouTube have removed videos posted by Brazil’s president, Jair Bolsonaro, declaring hydroxychloroquine an effective treatment. So far clips of Mr Trump praising (and even claiming to take) “the hydroxy” remain up. The firms say the difference is that Mr Trump stopped short of saying that the drug was a proven cure.
Left v right v wrong
Just as misinformation is not new, nor is its political use. In 1964 an essay by a historian, Richard Hofstadter, on the “paranoid style” in American politics described “the sense of heated exaggeration, suspiciousness, and conspiratorial fantasy” running through everything from 18th-century protests against the Illuminati to the anti-Masonic movement. Yet whereas Hofstadter argued that the paranoid style came as easily to those on the left as on the right—for instance, he cited the rumours of a slave-owners’ plot that were propagated by some abolitionists—today’s infodemic appears to be spreading more easily among the world’s conservatives than its liberals.
In America the Pew Research Centre found in March that 30% of Republicans believed the virus was created intentionally, nearly twice the share of Democrats. Last month a poll by YouGov found that 44% of Republicans think Bill Gates wants to use covid-19 vaccines to implant microchips in people; 19% of Democrats agree. In France a poll by Ifop found that 40% of those who support Marine Le Pen’s National Rally (once the National Front) believed that the virus was made by design, twice the share among backers of the far-left Unsubmissive France party. Supporters of the Dutch right-populist Freedom Party and the Forum for Democracy (fvd) are 40% more likely than backers of the far-left Socialist Party to say covid-19 is a biological weapon.
Wilder conspiracy theories aside, conservatives also seem more likely than liberals to question the official line on the pandemic. In late March, with Britain freshly locked down, a quarter of Tories but only 15% of Labour supporters believed that covid-19 was “just like the flu”.
The reluctance of so many conservatives to believe the conventional narrative of covid-19 is part of a more general suspicion of mainstream sources of information in some places. In America there is a yawning partisan gap in trust (see chart 2). The widest gulf concerns journalists, the next academics. These professions have long been conservative targets. Rush Limbaugh, an American talk-show host, speaks of the “four corners of deceit”: the media, scientists, academia and the government.
Such language is echoed by European populists of the right. Thierry Baudet, leader of the fvd, declared last year that “we’re being destroyed by the people who should protect us and undermined by our universities, by our journalists.” He has set up a “hotline” to report left-wing academics, and scoffs that the Dutch public broadcaster “obediently nods for the powers that be”. In France Ms Le Pen claims that “the government has been the biggest provider of fake news since the start of this crisis.” And in Britain, Brexiteers have questioned the impartiality of journalists, academics and civil servants, their attitude summed up by then justice secretary Michael Gove’s remark that people “have had enough of experts from organisations with acronyms saying that they know what is best and getting it consistently wrong”. British Conservatives have less faith than others in most of the media, as well as in international institutions. In April an Opinium poll found they were twice as likely as Labour voters to mistrust Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, the head of the who.
Elite-bashing is hardly unique to conservatives. Andrés Manuel López Obrador, Mexico’s populist left-wing president, continually lays into the media. So did Labour’s former leader, Jeremy Corbyn, who talked darkly about an “establishment” that mysteriously kept causing him to lose elections. Democrats are likelier than Republicans to believe that 9/11 was an inside job. And the left is partial to corporate conspiracies, including the myth that aids was invented by Big Pharma and the cia. One prominent peddler of covid-19 myths, according to NewsGuard, which vets sites for accuracy, is @OrganicLife, whose tweets combine vegan nut-milk recipes with paranoia about 5g transmitters.
Conspiracy beliefs are associated with ideological extremism of any variety, argues Karen Douglas, an expert on conspiracy theories at the University of Kent. Yet she says there is an “asymmetry”. People on the right believe in them more often, and entertain a broader range of theories, particularly those that accuse the other “side” of plotting, whether that be left-wingers, foreigners or other groups.
Structural shifts may explain why conservative voters seem to be more prone to the infodemic, and why conservative leaders have more reason—and are more likely—to undermine reliable sources. For one thing, conservatives’ complaints that elites are not on their side have become more plausible. In many countries the old left-right political divide, based on economics, has been replaced by a liberal-conservative split, based on culture. This largely pits liberal graduates against conservative school-leavers. And elites—whether in the media, the civil service, science or academia—are dominated by graduates. This doesn’t necessarily make them partial. But when Brexiteers complain that the civil service is a nest of Remainers, or Republicans growl that America’s universities are stuffed with liberals, they are right.
Conservatives have responded by tuning in to their own media sources, which have found that there is money to be made in amplifying their fears. American talk-radio punctuates paranoid chat with ads for dubious health remedies (Alex Jones, a Texas-based radio host, was recently ordered to stop selling toothpaste which he claimed “kills the whole sars-corona family at point-blank range”). Cable channels such as Fox News and websites like Breitbart have drawn audiences by bringing fringe theories into the mainstream.
Most recently, social networks’ algorithms have steered people towards polarising content, which is more likely to provoke “engagement” and thus generate ad impressions. In 2018 an internal report at Facebook warned that users were being pointed to divisive material. Yet plans to highlight less controversial posts—a project dubbed “Eat Your Veggies”—were sidelined, partly because of concerns that the changes would affect conservative users more than others, according to the Wall Street Journal. Some 16% of Americans get their covid-19 news directly from the White House; three-quarters of those who do so think the media have exaggerated the seriousness of the pandemic.
Another cause of conservative mistrust is that, in some countries, the electoral system gives conservative politicians a particular incentive to encourage polarisation. Liberals tend to be concentrated in cities; conservatives are more spread out. In winner-takes-all systems, this puts liberal parties at a disadvantage, as they pile up huge majorities in cities while conservative parties win more seats by lower margins elsewhere. In America this means the Republicans can win the electoral college with a minority of the popular vote (as they did in 2000 and 2016). In Britain it means Brexit supporters are in the majority in nearly two-thirds of constituencies but make up only about half of voters. The upshot, argues Ezra Klein in a new book on America, “Why We’re Polarised”, is that ultra-partisanship works better for conservatives. Liberals have to win votes from moderates; conservatives can prevail by just getting out their base. As politics becomes more polarised, energising the base gets easier, and winning over moderates harder.
The lessons from history are gloomy. Hofstadter believed that political paranoia “may be a persistent psychic phenomenon, more or less constantly affecting a modest minority of the population.” But, he warned, “certain historical catastrophes or frustrations may be conducive to the release of such psychic energies, and to situations in which they can more readily be built into mass movements or political parties.” Like the Iraq war and the global financial crisis, the pandemic may prove to be exactly that kind of catastrophe.
https://www.economist.com/international/2020/06/03/fake-news-is-fooling-more-conservatives-than-liberals-why
Witty Rejoinder said:
Return of the paranoid style
Fake news is fooling more conservatives than liberals. Why?
As with the coronavirus itself, some people seem to be more vulnerable than others to the infodemic“Doctors need three qualifications: to be able to lie and not get caught; to pretend to be honest; and to cause death without guilt.” So wrote Jean Froissart, a diarist of the Middle Ages, after an outbreak of bubonic plague in the 14th century. Fake news then meant rumours that the plague could be cured by sitting in a sewer, eating decade-old treacle or ingesting arsenic.
can we safely conclude that doctors are the source of fake news
Food report. Now eating salad of fetta, red onion and homegrown lettuce tomato and beetroot. In about 3/4 hour we’ll eat beef canneloni which I made a couple of days ago and has been maturing in the fridge. Got a cake in the oven now, the canneloni will go in to heat through when the cake comes out.
I had a nice surprise this afternoon. Earlier in the week I ordered a dog beanbag from the people we have been getting them from for over 20 years. They are so well made we’ve only ever had to get two big ones (when we had two Boxers) and one smaller one for The Pug. When Victoria the Pug stayed here earlier in the year she loved the beanbags but I haven’t been able to convince my sister in law to get her one of her own. She keeps buying cheap beds for her “because she just chews them up”. I decided to buy her one. This afternoon I got a phone call from the beanbag bed makers, just touching base, how old is Long now, chat, chat, chat. Now that is the way to run a business and keep people coming back.
:)
Witty Rejoinder said:
Return of the paranoid style
Fake news is fooling more conservatives than liberals. Why?
As with the coronavirus itself, some people seem to be more vulnerable than others to the infodemic
.
.
.
.
.https://www.economist.com/international/2020/06/03/fake-news-is-fooling-more-conservatives-than-liberals-why
Interesting read, thanks.
buffy said:
I had a nice surprise this afternoon. Earlier in the week I ordered a dog beanbag from the people we have been getting them from for over 20 years. They are so well made we’ve only ever had to get two big ones (when we had two Boxers) and one smaller one for The Pug. When Victoria the Pug stayed here earlier in the year she loved the beanbags but I haven’t been able to convince my sister in law to get her one of her own. She keeps buying cheap beds for her “because she just chews them up”. I decided to buy her one. This afternoon I got a phone call from the beanbag bed makers, just touching base, how old is Long now, chat, chat, chat. Now that is the way to run a business and keep people coming back.:)
Probably sell more if the beds broke more often (:
buffy said:
I had a nice surprise this afternoon. Earlier in the week I ordered a dog beanbag from the people we have been getting them from for over 20 years. They are so well made we’ve only ever had to get two big ones (when we had two Boxers) and one smaller one for The Pug. When Victoria the Pug stayed here earlier in the year she loved the beanbags but I haven’t been able to convince my sister in law to get her one of her own. She keeps buying cheap beds for her “because she just chews them up”. I decided to buy her one. This afternoon I got a phone call from the beanbag bed makers, just touching base, how old is Long now, chat, chat, chat. Now that is the way to run a business and keep people coming back.:)
Dogs do that when their bed doesn’t work for them – tear it into smaller pieces to make it more comfy.
poikilotherm said:
buffy said:
I had a nice surprise this afternoon. Earlier in the week I ordered a dog beanbag from the people we have been getting them from for over 20 years. They are so well made we’ve only ever had to get two big ones (when we had two Boxers) and one smaller one for The Pug. When Victoria the Pug stayed here earlier in the year she loved the beanbags but I haven’t been able to convince my sister in law to get her one of her own. She keeps buying cheap beds for her “because she just chews them up”. I decided to buy her one. This afternoon I got a phone call from the beanbag bed makers, just touching base, how old is Long now, chat, chat, chat. Now that is the way to run a business and keep people coming back.:)
Probably sell more if the beds broke more often (:
I did think of that. But I’m perfectly happy that they don’t.
Michael V said:
buffy said:
I had a nice surprise this afternoon. Earlier in the week I ordered a dog beanbag from the people we have been getting them from for over 20 years. They are so well made we’ve only ever had to get two big ones (when we had two Boxers) and one smaller one for The Pug. When Victoria the Pug stayed here earlier in the year she loved the beanbags but I haven’t been able to convince my sister in law to get her one of her own. She keeps buying cheap beds for her “because she just chews them up”. I decided to buy her one. This afternoon I got a phone call from the beanbag bed makers, just touching base, how old is Long now, chat, chat, chat. Now that is the way to run a business and keep people coming back.:)
Dogs do that when their bed doesn’t work for them – tear it into smaller pieces to make it more comfy.
That is pretty much what Simon said today. A couple of our dogs are in the dog gallery at Barka Parka. Bess (in the Large Dogs) and Long (in the puppies).
https://barkaparka.com.au/pet-gallery-categories
No wonder the Netherlands is fucked.
dv said:
No wonder the Netherlands is fucked.
There are only two things I can’t stand in this world: People who are intolerant of other people’s cultures, and the Dutch.
dv said:
No wonder the Netherlands is fucked.
What brought that on?
SCIENCE said:
can we safely conclude that doctors are the source of fake news
On an individual scale: perhaps.
I had an infection from a cut on my hand (1980s)
Red lines of infection crept up my arm, following the vascular system.
Saw the doc, got some antibiotics.
He said, “y’know, fifty years back, all i could have done was kid you along and make you more comfortable while i watched you slowly die. Things have come on a bit since then.”
On a broader, public health sized scale: no. They go for the greater good. Truth is best.
ABC News:
‘The missing details behind Morrison’s urgent warning shot to China
By political editor Andrew Probyn and political reporter Stephen Dziedzic
The Government believes the nation is facing political and economic coercion. Its assessment is that there can be no backdown; retreat under pressure, and that pressure will only intensify, write Andrew Probyn and Stephen Dziedzic.’
They’re right, you know.
Michael V said:
dv said:
No wonder the Netherlands is fucked.
What brought that on?
WR’s statistics about Herd Credulity.
I wonder why Trump is kicking off in Oklahoma anyway. If there is anywhere that is in the tank for Trump, it’s Oklahoma. Why not focus on battleground states? But w/e I’m not his advisor.
We have what Chief Stokers used to call ‘a good burn’ going on in the wood burning heater at the moment.
The Barely-Domesticated Wolf has signified his approval by situating himself broadside on to said heater.
dv said:
Michael V said:
dv said:
No wonder the Netherlands is fucked.
What brought that on?
WR’s statistics about Herd Credulity.
yeah it was surprising until we realised that the question was “Do you believe that a foreign power or other force is deliberately spreading coronavirus?”, and then it made sense that USSAoles didn’t, because they knew full well it was their own domestic power or other force that was deliberately spreading it
dv said:
I wonder why Trump is kicking off in Oklahoma anyway. If there is anywhere that is in the tank for Trump, it’s Oklahoma. Why not focus on battleground states? But w/e I’m not his advisor.
Hey, didn’t an antifa protestor blow up a federal building in Oklahoma City some years back, killing a lot of people including a crowd of little kids?
Maybe that’s why.
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
Michael V said:What brought that on?
WR’s statistics about Herd Credulity.
yeah it was surprising until we realised that the question was “Do you believe that a foreign power or other force is deliberately spreading coronavirus?”, and then it made sense that USSAoles didn’t, because they knew full well it was their own domestic power or other force that was deliberately spreading it
Goldurn gubmint.
dv said:
Michael V said:
dv said:
No wonder the Netherlands is fucked.
What brought that on?
WR’s statistics about Herd Credulity.
Ah. I saw that there and contrasted it with Pakistan. And wondered why?
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
I wonder why Trump is kicking off in Oklahoma anyway. If there is anywhere that is in the tank for Trump, it’s Oklahoma. Why not focus on battleground states? But w/e I’m not his advisor.
Hey, didn’t an antifa protestor blow up a federal building in Oklahoma City some years back, killing a lot of people including a crowd of little kids?
Maybe that’s why.
Trump would likely say that, but the perpetrators were ultra-right nutters.
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
I wonder why Trump is kicking off in Oklahoma anyway. If there is anywhere that is in the tank for Trump, it’s Oklahoma. Why not focus on battleground states? But w/e I’m not his advisor.
Hey, didn’t an antifa protestor blow up a federal building in Oklahoma City some years back, killing a lot of people including a crowd of little kids?
Maybe that’s why.
That was a profa protester.
Michael V said:
dv said:
Michael V said:What brought that on?
WR’s statistics about Herd Credulity.
Ah. I saw that there and contrasted it with Pakistan. And wondered why?
It wasn’t that long ago that I considered the Netherlands and Sweden to be hyperrational countries
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:can we safely conclude that doctors are the source of fake news
On an individual scale: perhaps.
I had an infection from a cut on my hand (1980s)
Red lines of infection crept up my arm, following the vascular system.
Saw the doc, got some antibiotics.
He said, “y’know, fifty years back, all i could have done was kid you along and make you more comfortable while i watched you slowly die. Things have come on a bit since then.”
On a broader, public health sized scale: no. They go for the greater good. Truth is best.
You ever see The Unforgiven? I thought it was a nice and realistic touch how Bunting died. He was shot in the abdomen with a single round from a pistol and even if the bleeding were controlled this would mean a slow but certain death, back then.
dv said:
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:can we safely conclude that doctors are the source of fake news
On an individual scale: perhaps.
I had an infection from a cut on my hand (1980s)
Red lines of infection crept up my arm, following the vascular system.
Saw the doc, got some antibiotics.
He said, “y’know, fifty years back, all i could have done was kid you along and make you more comfortable while i watched you slowly die. Things have come on a bit since then.”
On a broader, public health sized scale: no. They go for the greater good. Truth is best.
You ever see The Unforgiven? I thought it was a nice and realistic touch how Bunting died. He was shot in the abdomen with a single round from a pistol and even if the bleeding were controlled this would mean a slow but certain death, back then.
Depends what it hit.
So this bio I’m reading gives Rock Hudson’s address. I Google Earthed it. It is indeed a magnificent looking mansion. The studio bought it for him for $167,000, currently valued at over $13 million.
Divine Angel said:
So this bio I’m reading gives Rock Hudson’s address. I Google Earthed it. It is indeed a magnificent looking mansion. The studio bought it for him for $167,000, currently valued at over $13 million.
Big Hollywood stars these days can easily afford a $13m pad.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Divine Angel said:
So this bio I’m reading gives Rock Hudson’s address. I Google Earthed it. It is indeed a magnificent looking mansion. The studio bought it for him for $167,000, currently valued at over $13 million.
Big Hollywood stars these days can easily afford a $13m pad.
I bet Chris Hemsworth’s bathroom alone cost that.
(Not quite)
Is this Rock Hudson bio full of salacious details about his love-life? Apparently he was a fan of gay bath-houses in his old age where any young buck could service him.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Is this Rock Hudson bio full of salacious details about his love-life? Apparently he was a fan of gay bath-houses in his old age where any young buck could service him.
I’ve just read a chapter where he was reportedly servicing a whole football team on a regular basis.
Why is it that when a footy player tests positive for Covid-19 his club and the league publicly announce it and his name, but when a GP tests positive and the state health minister criticises him, the medical community and politicians go bananas?
Divine Angel said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Is this Rock Hudson bio full of salacious details about his love-life? Apparently he was a fan of gay bath-houses in his old age where any young buck could service him.
I’ve just read a chapter where he was reportedly servicing a whole football team on a regular basis.
Any port in a storm.
Rule 303 said:
Why is it that when a footy player tests positive for Covid-19 his club and the league publicly announce it and his name, but when a GP tests positive and the state health minister criticises him, the medical community and politicians go bananas?
Because (standard response in my family. You don’t have to because anything, the answer is just because)
So tonight’s viewing will be ABC – Shakespeare and Hathaway and then the start of an Agatha Christie set. Mr buffy has set Stargate SG-1 to record for tomorrow.
Hello everybody. Today I made a bent stick.
buffy said:
Rule 303 said:
Why is it that when a footy player tests positive for Covid-19 his club and the league publicly announce it and his name, but when a GP tests positive and the state health minister criticises him, the medical community and politicians go bananas?
Because (standard response in my family. You don’t have to because anything, the answer is just because)
pretty sure the sensible part of the medical community agree with the criticism, and disagree with announcing people by name
of course, in Australia, footy players and GP-daughter-singers are both considered celebrities and we all know what that means for privacy
Rule 303 said:
Why is it that when a footy player tests positive for Covid-19 his club and the league publicly announce it and his name, but when a GP tests positive and the state health minister criticises him, the medical community and politicians go bananas?
Because the press and the medical community and the politicians will go bananas and criticise him if he was named.
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:
Why is it that when a footy player tests positive for Covid-19 his club and the league publicly announce it and his name, but when a GP tests positive and the state health minister criticises him, the medical community and politicians go bananas?
Because the press and the medical community and the politicians will go bananas and criticise him if he was named.
is going bananas a reference to lower primates and no longer considered acceptable
SCIENCE said:
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:
Why is it that when a footy player tests positive for Covid-19 his club and the league publicly announce it and his name, but when a GP tests positive and the state health minister criticises him, the medical community and politicians go bananas?
Because the press and the medical community and the politicians will go bananas and criticise him if he was named.
is going bananas a reference to lower primates and no longer considered acceptable
It is perfectly acceptable.
party_pants said:
SCIENCE said:
party_pants said:Because the press and the medical community and the politicians will go bananas and criticise him if he was named.
is going bananas a reference to lower primates and no longer considered acceptable
It is perfectly acceptable.
https://grammarist.com/idiom/going-bananas/
Going bananas is an idiom that was originally coined in the United States. An idiom is a word, group of words or phrase that has a figurative meaning that is not easily deduced from its literal meaning. We will examine the meaning of the idiom going bananas, where it came from and some examples of its use in sentences.
Going bananas means going crazy, becoming insane. It may als0 mean to go wild with anger, or to erupt with enthusiasm with accompanying cheering. The term going bananas is not as old as one may think, it has its roots on American college campuses in the 1960s. It is believed that the term going bananas is a term that evolved from the idiom going ape, which also means to go crazy, to explode with anger or to erupt with enthusiasm. The close association of apes and monkeys with bananas in the Western imagination probably gave rise to the term going bananas. For a brief time in the 1930s the term going bananas referred to someone who was sexually perverted, but that meaning has long fallen by the wayside. Related phrases are go bananas, goes bananas, went bananas.
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
I wonder why Trump is kicking off in Oklahoma anyway. If there is anywhere that is in the tank for Trump, it’s Oklahoma. Why not focus on battleground states? But w/e I’m not his advisor.
Hey, didn’t an antifa protestor blow up a federal building in Oklahoma City some years back, killing a lot of people including a crowd of little kids?
Maybe that’s why.
Trump would likely say that, but the perpetrators were ultra-right nutters.
Yer, i knew dat, really. T. McVeigh etc.
But, i wonder if Trump will somehow put his foot in his mouth with a reference (possibly unscripted rambling) to the mass murder.
Rule 303 said:
dv said:
captain_spalding said:On an individual scale: perhaps.
I had an infection from a cut on my hand (1980s)
Red lines of infection crept up my arm, following the vascular system.
Saw the doc, got some antibiotics.
He said, “y’know, fifty years back, all i could have done was kid you along and make you more comfortable while i watched you slowly die. Things have come on a bit since then.”
On a broader, public health sized scale: no. They go for the greater good. Truth is best.
You ever see The Unforgiven? I thought it was a nice and realistic touch how Bunting died. He was shot in the abdomen with a single round from a pistol and even if the bleeding were controlled this would mean a slow but certain death, back then.
Depends what it hit.
Well let’s suppose it tore the intestines and nothing more vital. There’s no way back from that in the 1880s, but you wouldn’t expect anyone to die from such a wound in a modern city.
Rule 303 said:
Why is it that when a footy player tests positive for Covid-19 his club and the league publicly announce it and his name, but when a GP tests positive and the state health minister criticises him, the medical community and politicians go bananas?
Because doctors don’t have germs.
dv said:
Rule 303 said:
dv said:You ever see The Unforgiven? I thought it was a nice and realistic touch how Bunting died. He was shot in the abdomen with a single round from a pistol and even if the bleeding were controlled this would mean a slow but certain death, back then.
Depends what it hit.
Well let’s suppose it tore the intestines and nothing more vital. There’s no way back from that in the 1880s, but you wouldn’t expect anyone to die from such a wound in a modern city.
It was, and still is, practice for sailors to change into clean clothes and underwear if time permits before going to action stations.
It’s not exactly ‘prescribed’ but, just as in the 18th century, should a projectile wound force fragments of fabric into a wound, then the chances of infection are much reduced if the clothes are relatively clean.
They may not have known of ‘germ theory’ in the 1700s, but they knew what killed people.
party_pants said:
Hello everybody. Today I made a bent stick.
11 to go. gotta jig?
JudgeMental said:
party_pants said:
Hello everybody. Today I made a bent stick.
11 to go. gotta jig?
I’ve made a template from plywood. I cut this one with the battery jigsaw and then finished it with the belt sanders. Took about 45 minutes to do one. A bandsaw would be good but I don’t have room for that.
DV:
https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2020/06/05/a-nine-year-old-aims-to-be-the-youngest-chess-grandmaster-ever?
party_pants said:
JudgeMental said:
party_pants said:
Hello everybody. Today I made a bent stick.
11 to go. gotta jig?
I’ve made a template from plywood. I cut this one with the battery jigsaw and then finished it with the belt sanders. Took about 45 minutes to do one. A bandsaw would be good but I don’t have room for that.
I make a template from ply too. A little longer than the finished length. cut to 5mm of the line with the bandsaw. Then use a flush cut router bit to take it down to finished size.
JudgeMental said:
party_pants said:
JudgeMental said:11 to go. gotta jig?
I’ve made a template from plywood. I cut this one with the battery jigsaw and then finished it with the belt sanders. Took about 45 minutes to do one. A bandsaw would be good but I don’t have room for that.
I make a template from ply too. A little longer than the finished length. cut to 5mm of the line with the bandsaw. Then use a flush cut router bit to take it down to finished size.
How do you guide the router?
party_pants said:
JudgeMental said:
party_pants said:I’ve made a template from plywood. I cut this one with the battery jigsaw and then finished it with the belt sanders. Took about 45 minutes to do one. A bandsaw would be good but I don’t have room for that.
I make a template from ply too. A little longer than the finished length. cut to 5mm of the line with the bandsaw. Then use a flush cut router bit to take it down to finished size.
How do you guide the router?
flush cutters have a bearing guide.
JudgeMental said:
party_pants said:
JudgeMental said:I make a template from ply too. A little longer than the finished length. cut to 5mm of the line with the bandsaw. Then use a flush cut router bit to take it down to finished size.
How do you guide the router?
flush cutters have a bearing guide.
I have a homemade router table. use double sided tape to hold the jig to the wood.
If Carlton aren’t careful they are in some danger of winning a game of football.
JudgeMental said:
JudgeMental said:
party_pants said:How do you guide the router?
flush cutters have a bearing guide.
I have a homemade router table. use double sided tape to hold the jig to the wood.
So the plywood template becomes the guide for the flush cutter bearing wheel?
party_pants said:
A bandsaw would be good but I don’t have room for that.
I hear you, brudder.
JudgeMental said:
JudgeMental said:
party_pants said:How do you guide the router?
flush cutters have a bearing guide.
I have a homemade router table. use double sided tape to hold the jig to the wood.
takes note
party_pants said:
JudgeMental said:
JudgeMental said:flush cutters have a bearing guide.
I have a homemade router table. use double sided tape to hold the jig to the wood.
So the plywood template becomes the guide for the flush cutter bearing wheel?
Yep. so it needs to be pretty accurate. but then, the objects are easy.
sibeen said:
If Carlton aren’t careful they are in some danger of winning a game of football.
Drug test ‘em!
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:
If Carlton aren’t careful they are in some danger of winning a game of football.
Drug test ‘em!
Don’t understand AFL, never have. But, even i know that a Carlton win is always valid grounds for suspicion.
sibeen said:
If Carlton aren’t careful they are in some danger of winning a game of football.
I reckon the season will get canned again shortly. A player has tested positive for the Covids.
I’ll take some pics tomorrow if i remember.
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
If Carlton aren’t careful they are in some danger of winning a game of football.
I reckon the season will get canned again shortly. A player has tested positive for the Covids.
But..but…money…
JudgeMental said:
party_pants said:
JudgeMental said:I have a homemade router table. use double sided tape to hold the jig to the wood.
So the plywood template becomes the guide for the flush cutter bearing wheel?
Yep. so it needs to be pretty accurate. but then, the objects are easy.
OK. Thanks. I hadn’t thought of doing it that way. Might be worth a few practice runs.
party_pants said:
JudgeMental said:
party_pants said:So the plywood template becomes the guide for the flush cutter bearing wheel?
Yep. so it needs to be pretty accurate. but then, the objects are easy.
OK. Thanks. I hadn’t thought of doing it that way. Might be worth a few practice runs.
(thinks: wise words)
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:
JudgeMental said:Yep. so it needs to be pretty accurate. but then, the objects are easy.
OK. Thanks. I hadn’t thought of doing it that way. Might be worth a few practice runs.
(thinks: wise words)
Oh, I always keep a tub of scrap for practice runs. Whenever I set up the router for anything it gets tested on a bit of scrap to make sure it is set up just as I like it.
do statue defenders take issue with nuptial name changes
SCIENCE said:
do statue defenders take issue with nuptial name changes
Buffy will be back shortly.
ABC News:
‘‘If the situation doesn’t change, the borders are not opening’: SA Health Minister reconsiders timeline
South Australia’s Health Minister says the state’s remaining border restrictions will not lift on July 20 unless Victoria can bring its coronavirus case numbers under control.’
So, who is he threatening here:
the rest of Australia, or SA residents?
I predict a few of us will be expecting ripper tax returns this year. Anyone got anything picked out to spend it on yet?
Rule 303 said:
I predict a few of us will be expecting ripper tax returns this year. Anyone got anything picked out to spend it on yet?
Packet of Wrigleys Spearmint.
Rule 303 said:
I predict a few of us will be expecting ripper tax returns this year. Anyone got anything picked out to spend it on yet?
I’ll get a small fortune, probably spend it on Hydroxychloroquine…
furious said:
Rule 303 said:
I predict a few of us will be expecting ripper tax returns this year. Anyone got anything picked out to spend it on yet?
I’ll get a small fortune, probably spend it on Hydroxychloroquine…
Smart.
Few Amazon ads on the telly atm. I’ve chosen to not buy from them and a few others here have said the same. Anyone of y’all here who will?
Witty Rejoinder said:
Few Amazon ads on the telly atm. I’ve chosen to not buy from them and a few others here have said the same. Anyone of y’all here who will?
I get ebooks from Amazon.
Rule 303 said:
I predict a few of us will be expecting ripper tax returns this year. Anyone got anything picked out to spend it on yet?
Probably stock up on another 6 months worth of bog roll. All good Australian made bog roll of course, to support local jobs.
Divine Angel said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Few Amazon ads on the telly atm. I’ve chosen to not buy from them and a few others here have said the same. Anyone of y’all here who will?
I get ebooks from Amazon.
Same. What’ve they done for the boycotting?
Divine Angel said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Few Amazon ads on the telly atm. I’ve chosen to not buy from them and a few others here have said the same. Anyone of y’all here who will?
I get ebooks from Amazon.
I use Australia-based Booktopia for my real books.
poikilotherm said:
Divine Angel said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Few Amazon ads on the telly atm. I’ve chosen to not buy from them and a few others here have said the same. Anyone of y’all here who will?
I get ebooks from Amazon.
Same. What’ve they done for the boycotting?
Just prefer to use local mobs. Also don’t like Amazon’s anti-union stance in the US and their reported poor workplace practices
I use the library for real books.
Divine Angel said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Few Amazon ads on the telly atm. I’ve chosen to not buy from them and a few others here have said the same. Anyone of y’all here who will?
I get ebooks from Amazon.
I think I’ve bought a couple of books, years ago.
Witty Rejoinder said:
poikilotherm said:
Divine Angel said:I get ebooks from Amazon.
Same. What’ve they done for the boycotting?
Just prefer to use local mobs. Also don’t like Amazon’s anti-union stance in the US and their reported poor workplace practices
My LGA fought hard to get an Amazon warehouse here. They lost.
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:
I predict a few of us will be expecting ripper tax returns this year. Anyone got anything picked out to spend it on yet?
Probably stock up on another 6 months worth of bog roll. All good Australian made bog roll of course, to support local jobs.
You’re a patriot.
poikilotherm said:
Divine Angel said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Few Amazon ads on the telly atm. I’ve chosen to not buy from them and a few others here have said the same. Anyone of y’all here who will?
I get ebooks from Amazon.
Same. What’ve they done for the boycotting?
I don’t buy from them. They’re just another multinational using their size and influence to screw people. Low wages and poor working conditions for their employees. Screwing suppliers and small businesses that supply to them.
I can live without them. A supplier of last resort for mine.
Witty Rejoinder said:
poikilotherm said:
Divine Angel said:I get ebooks from Amazon.
Same. What’ve they done for the boycotting?
Just prefer to use local mobs. Also don’t like Amazon’s anti-union stance in the US and their reported poor workplace practices
Fair enough.
Had an amazon firestick, replaced with an Nvidia shield tv, much better…
Witty Rejoinder said:
poikilotherm said:
Divine Angel said:I get ebooks from Amazon.
Same. What’ve they done for the boycotting?
Just prefer to use local mobs. Also don’t like Amazon’s anti-union stance in the US and their reported poor workplace practices
>nods< I’m going to be running out of places to buy stuff if I keep adding people to the list.
Witty Rejoinder said:
poikilotherm said:
Divine Angel said:I get ebooks from Amazon.
Same. What’ve they done for the boycotting?
Just prefer to use local mobs. Also don’t like Amazon’s anti-union stance in the US and their reported poor workplace practices
Same here.
For e-books, try http://www.freebookspot.es/default.aspx Afew hoops to jump through, and it’s a bit pot-luck, but it’s fun.
Someone worked out the other day that if the US IRS could squeeze a 4.7% tax out of Jeff Bezos’s annual earnings, the US govt could fund every single student at every US university, 100%.
I can’t badmouth Amazon too much, I’ll be listing my book there. Like it or not, Kindle is the biggest ebook marketplace in the world.
But I’ll also have it for sale on my website for all the Amazon haters.
captain_spalding said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
poikilotherm said:Same. What’ve they done for the boycotting?
Just prefer to use local mobs. Also don’t like Amazon’s anti-union stance in the US and their reported poor workplace practices
Same here.
For e-books, try http://www.freebookspot.es/default.aspx Afew hoops to jump through, and it’s a bit pot-luck, but it’s fun.
Someone worked out the other day that if the US IRS could squeeze a 4.7% tax out of Jeff Bezos’s annual earnings, the US govt could fund every single student at every US university, 100%.
What definition of earnings are they using?
Divine Angel said:
I can’t badmouth Amazon too much, I’ll be listing my book there. Like it or not, Kindle is the biggest ebook marketplace in the world.But I’ll also have it for sale on my website for all the Amazon haters.
Amazon is more than just books these days.
I’ll take a hard cover….
poikilotherm said:
captain_spalding said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Just prefer to use local mobs. Also don’t like Amazon’s anti-union stance in the US and their reported poor workplace practices
Same here.
For e-books, try http://www.freebookspot.es/default.aspx Afew hoops to jump through, and it’s a bit pot-luck, but it’s fun.
Someone worked out the other day that if the US IRS could squeeze a 4.7% tax out of Jeff Bezos’s annual earnings, the US govt could fund every single student at every US university, 100%.
What definition of earnings are they using?
Can’t remember, and i plead alcoholic haze, m’lud.
furious said:
- But I’ll also have it for sale on my website for all the Amazon haters.
I’ll take a hard cover….

MrsRule is watching the scene in ‘Gone with the Wind’ where it’s raining heavily and not that windy – So, it’s more ‘Gone with the Rain’, really.
You Fucking Beauty
sibeen said:
You Fucking Beauty
For you, any time.
sibeen said:
You Fucking Beauty
Lotto numbers come up?
sibeen said:
You Fucking Beauty
settle
Rule 303 said:
MrsRule is watching the scene in ‘Gone with the Wind’ where it’s raining heavily and not that windy – So, it’s more ‘Gone with the Rain’, really.
Thought tbat movie was banned ….
captain_spalding said:
sibeen said:
You Fucking Beauty
Lotto numbers come up?
Something else that doesn’t happen often. Carlton won a game.
First time they’ve won at Kardinia Park since 1996.
captain_spalding said:
sibeen said:
You Fucking Beauty
Lotto numbers come up?
That game you know nothing about that involves Carlton.
furious said:
Rule 303 said:
MrsRule is watching the scene in ‘Gone with the Wind’ where it’s raining heavily and not that windy – So, it’s more ‘Gone with the Rain’, really.
Thought tbat movie was banned ….
It’s ok. It’s the edited version. No black folks in it. Now it’s all about white Southern twits.
sibeen said:
You Fucking Beauty
It nearly wasn’t, Beeny Boy.
sibeen said:
captain_spalding said:
sibeen said:
You Fucking Beauty
Lotto numbers come up?
Something else that doesn’t happen often. Carlton won a game.
First time they’ve won at Kardinia Park since 1996.
I’m the biggest AFL ignoramus there is, but even i know that Carlton are duds.
Is this some kind of marketing ploy?
Woodie said:
sibeen said:
You Fucking Beauty
It nearly wasn’t, Beeny Boy.
Bloody near on heart attack time, Woodie :)
sibeen said:
captain_spalding said:
sibeen said:
You Fucking Beauty
Lotto numbers come up?
Something else that doesn’t happen often. Carlton won a game.
First time they’ve won at Kardinia Park since 1996.
Be the first time they’ve played there since 1996, wouldn’t it?
captain_spalding said:
furious said:
Rule 303 said:
MrsRule is watching the scene in ‘Gone with the Wind’ where it’s raining heavily and not that windy – So, it’s more ‘Gone with the Rain’, really.
Thought tbat movie was banned ….
It’s ok. It’s the edited version. No black folks in it. Now it’s all about white Southern twits.
Yankees in Georgia!! How did they ever get in.
sibeen said:
Woodie said:
sibeen said:
You Fucking Beauty
It nearly wasn’t, Beeny Boy.
Bloody near on heart attack time, Woodie :)
Saved by the shortened quarters ya reckon?
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘‘If the situation doesn’t change, the borders are not opening’: SA Health Minister reconsiders timeline
South Australia’s Health Minister says the state’s remaining border restrictions will not lift on July 20 unless Victoria can bring its coronavirus case numbers under control.’
So, who is he threatening here:
the rest of Australia, or SA residents?
might not be a threat, sometimes even Liberal premiers can make simple statements of fact
Woodie said:
captain_spalding said:
furious said:Thought tbat movie was banned ….
It’s ok. It’s the edited version. No black folks in it. Now it’s all about white Southern twits.
Yankees in Georgia!! How did they ever get in.
That confounded fool Johnny Hood left the gate open at Atlanta!
SCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘‘If the situation doesn’t change, the borders are not opening’: SA Health Minister reconsiders timeline
South Australia’s Health Minister says the state’s remaining border restrictions will not lift on July 20 unless Victoria can bring its coronavirus case numbers under control.’
So, who is he threatening here:
the rest of Australia, or SA residents?
might not be a threat, sometimes even Liberal premiers can make simple statements of fact
But, think of all those SA residents.
Cooped up in the bottom right corner of SA all these months.
They must be mad with le cafard.
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘‘If the situation doesn’t change, the borders are not opening’: SA Health Minister reconsiders timeline
South Australia’s Health Minister says the state’s remaining border restrictions will not lift on July 20 unless Victoria can bring its coronavirus case numbers under control.’
So, who is he threatening here:
the rest of Australia, or SA residents?
might not be a threat, sometimes even Liberal premiers can make simple statements of fact
But, think of all those SA residents.
Cooped up in the bottom right corner of SA all these months.
They must be mad with le cafard.
yes but possibly better than the covid
we know some family are wanting to get out so yeah
Woodie said:
sibeen said:
Woodie said:It nearly wasn’t, Beeny Boy.
Bloody near on heart attack time, Woodie :)
Saved by the shortened quarters ya reckon?
No. In the first three quarters we were shitting it in and therefore would have had an insurmountable lead if they’d had been of normal length.
Is the arse likely to drop out of the American dollar in the next week? It would help me if it did.
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘‘If the situation doesn’t change, the borders are not opening’: SA Health Minister reconsiders timeline
South Australia’s Health Minister says the state’s remaining border restrictions will not lift on July 20 unless Victoria can bring its coronavirus case numbers under control.’
So, who is he threatening here:
the rest of Australia, or SA residents?
might not be a threat, sometimes even Liberal premiers can make simple statements of fact
But, think of all those SA residents.
Cooped up in the bottom right corner of SA all these months.
They must be mad with le cafard.
haven’t seen that word since i read The Wages of Virtue.
Rule 303 said:
Is the arse likely to drop out of the American dollar in the next week? It would help me if it did.
No.
furious said:
Rule 303 said:
MrsRule is watching the scene in ‘Gone with the Wind’ where it’s raining heavily and not that windy – So, it’s more ‘Gone with the Rain’, really.
Thought tbat movie was banned ….
Finding that out would require a level of interest that I don’t have. Sorry.
sibeen said:
Woodie said:
sibeen said:
You Fucking Beauty
It nearly wasn’t, Beeny Boy.
Bloody near on heart attack time, Woodie :)
Steady on.
sibeen said:
Woodie said:
sibeen said:Bloody near on heart attack time, Woodie :)
Saved by the shortened quarters ya reckon?
No. In the first three quarters we were shitting it in and therefore would have had an insurmountable lead if they’d had been of normal length.
A win is a win, Beeny Boy. You’d better put your defibrilator in for a service. It probably needs it.
dv said:
ROFL
Mustafa would say “We grow better Nutella in our village”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djMmFopOmx0
was reading up about maralinga nuclear test dates, then got around to soviet espionage, what else does a boy do on a quiet saturday evening..anyway down a bit is about the stolen suspension design used in the T-34 tanks
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_nuclear_tests_at_Maralinga
“British nuclear tests at Maralinga were conducted between 1956 and 1963 at the Maralinga site..”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_espionage_in_the_United_States
“….By the end of 1936 at least four mid-level State Department officials were delivering information to Soviet intelligence: Alger Hiss, assistant to Assistant Secretary of State Francis Sayre; Julian Wadleigh, economist in the Trade Agreements Section; Laurence Duggan, Latin American division; and Noel Field, West European division. Whittaker Chambers later testified that the plans for a tank design with a revolutionary new suspension invented by J. Walter Christie (then being tested in the U.S.A.) were procured and put into production in the Soviet Union as the Mark BT, later developed into the famous Soviet T-34 tank…”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Walter_Christie
“…John Walter Christie (May 6, 1865 – January 11, 1944) was an American engineer and inventor. He is best known for developing the Christie suspension system used in a number of World War II-era tank designs, most notably the Soviet BT and T-34 series, and the British Covenanter and Crusader Cruiser tanks, as well as the Comet heavy cruiser tank…”
transition said:
was reading up about maralinga nuclear test dates, then got around to soviet espionage, what else does a boy do on a quiet saturday evening..anyway down a bit is about the stolen suspension design used in the T-34 tankshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_nuclear_tests_at_Maralinga
“British nuclear tests at Maralinga were conducted between 1956 and 1963 at the Maralinga site..”https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_espionage_in_the_United_States
“….By the end of 1936 at least four mid-level State Department officials were delivering information to Soviet intelligence: Alger Hiss, assistant to Assistant Secretary of State Francis Sayre; Julian Wadleigh, economist in the Trade Agreements Section; Laurence Duggan, Latin American division; and Noel Field, West European division. Whittaker Chambers later testified that the plans for a tank design with a revolutionary new suspension invented by J. Walter Christie (then being tested in the U.S.A.) were procured and put into production in the Soviet Union as the Mark BT, later developed into the famous Soviet T-34 tank…”https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Walter_Christie
“…John Walter Christie (May 6, 1865 – January 11, 1944) was an American engineer and inventor. He is best known for developing the Christie suspension system used in a number of World War II-era tank designs, most notably the Soviet BT and T-34 series, and the British Covenanter and Crusader Cruiser tanks, as well as the Comet heavy cruiser tank…”
Christie’s company sold two turretless tanks to the Soviets, falsely labelling them as farm tractors.
The Arts Party
6 hrs ·
This is a fail in so many ways… here’s another: “In the midst of all that, the government plans to make students studying in areas like arts, law and commerce pay more to do so. These are some of the few disciplines in which government subsidies per student are only marginally less than the cost of teaching them. Unlike in the very disciplines it wants to see student numbers swell.
In other words, it is putting in place a price barrier, which if its goal is achieved will deter students from studying in the humanities. But these are the disciplines in which universities can actually make money.
Why? Because the overheads are far lower than in the sciences. No labs, no expensive equipment. All that arts, law and commerce students require are the internet, PowerPoint, a basic lecture theatre and the occasional book.
These students are already subsidising the students doing STEM degrees. The more of these students universities have, the more spare cash per student they can use to subsidise those in the more expensive disciplines such as medicine and nursing.
However, this policy deters students from studying in the humanities, encouraging them instead to take up STEM subjects. Costing universities more at the very same time as imposing price-point disincentives for students wishing to study in the areas that generally help subsidise such disciplines.
It is a massive fiscal fail by the government — a sure sign this policy has been crafted on the back of an envelope, and without adequate sector-wide consultation. Or thought through for the unintended consequences it might provoke. Basic ingredients of good public policy-making.”
Getting damp down your way sarahs mum? Rain expected here for the next 5-6 days.
It’s still wet and muddy everywhere from the last lot.
Witty Rejoinder said:
China’s answer to Rambo:https://www.economist.com/china/2020/05/28/chinas-wolf-warrior-diplomacy-gamble?
China’s “Wolf Warrior” diplomacy gamble
Foreign policy is not like an action filmMay 28th 2020 edition
Late one night this week, Chaguan brewed strong green tea and rewatched the highest-grossing film in Chinese history, “Wolf Warrior 2”. This action flick is both preposterous and oddly compelling, offering clues about the sort of China that modern-day patriots yearn to see on screen. That China is formidable. At one point the film’s hero, Leng Feng, a retired Chinese commando, uses a home-made crossbow to take on African mercenaries armed with tanks. Then he kills their American boss, a murderous racist who—moments before Leng punches him to death—sneers: “People like you will always be inferior to people like me.” The China of the film is self-confident. A crowd-pleasing scene shows warships of the People’s Liberation Army steaming towards a war-torn, pandemic-stricken corner of Africa to evacuate Chinese citizens, past American warships fleeing in the opposite direction.
The China of the movie is respected. A climactic scene sees the hero halt a battle by sticking a Chinese flag on his arm and holding it aloft. He then leads a convoy of Chinese and African refugees to safety between two rival armies, as awestruck commanders bellow: “Hold your fire! It’s the Chinese!”
Three years after its release, this noisy fantasy is back in the news. In an era of crises, from a global pandemic to an ever sharper contest between China and America, Chinese envoys and state media have gone on the attack. Ambassadors and official mouthpieces have threatened and insulted governments and elected politicians on every continent. Some have promoted conspiracy theories that America’s army spread covid-19. In China, this trend is being dubbed “Wolf Warrior diplomacy” by fans and critics alike. Actually, that is an insult to wolf warriors.
It is not hard to find Chinese who cheer the foreign ministry’s pugnacious new style. Against that, some members of China’s foreign-policy establishment express alarm over this assertiveness, calling it a mistake born of inexperience. That is letting foreign ministry hotheads off too easily. A well-travelled bunch, China’s quarrel-picking diplomats know how they sound. They are using aggression as a signal that China has grown strong, and is tired of waiting for the world to show respect and deference. To diplomatic and national-security hawks in Beijing, if some countries have to feel pain in order to understand that China’s rise is inevitable and that resistance is futile (and that no help is coming from an America consumed with its own problems), then that pain is itself a useful education. Nor is this approach about to stop. Reporters at the annual meeting of China’s legislature, the National People’s Congress, asked the foreign minister, Wang Yi, about “Wolf Warrior diplomacy”. He did not endorse the term but embraced its spirit. China’s diplomats “never pick a fight or bully others, but we have principles and guts”, he said. “We will push back against any deliberate insult to resolutely defend our national honour and dignity.”
Leng the wolf warrior would only half approve. His China is not merely feared. It is admired because it is generous, in deed and in spirit. In the film, doctors at a Chinese-funded hospital have given their lives to develop a vaccine for a deadly virus. Tasked with rescuing Chinese workers from a remote factory, Leng brings their African wives and colleagues too, even lying that a local boy is his son to sneak him aboard a Chinese ship. The film is strikingly respectful of international law. A lantern-jawed naval commander launches missiles to save the day only when a radio operator shouts news from the Chinese ambassador: “Sir, we have received authorisation from the United Nations!” The film ends with a giant passport filling the screen, and a promise that China will use its strength to protect citizens in danger abroad. Some Chinese audiences so liked this magnanimous, self-confident vision of their country that they sang the national anthem in their cinema seats.
The real-world China of 2020 is not magnanimous. Start with notions of brotherhood with Africa. In April thousands of African traders living in the southern city of Guangzhou were tested for covid and forced into quarantine, regardless of their travel histories. Some Africans were left to sleep on the streets after being evicted by landlords. Others were told by Chinese police to delete social-media posts complaining about mistreatment. Rather than apologise, Chinese diplomats and state media went on the offensive, declaring that “so-called discrimination against Africans” never happened and blaming anti-China forces for spreading “fake news”.
Cinematic promises to protect Chinese worldwide are not being kept, either. With officials desperate to avoid importing covid cases from America or elsewhere, flights to China remain severely limited, stranding hundreds of thousands of students abroad. Their fate divides netizens on Chinese social media, with many scorning overseas students as spoiled, unpatriotic rich kids.
Over the long run, being obnoxious has costs
This pandemic is that rare event: a crisis that frightens every country on Earth. Alas, the moment finds China in an exhaustingly narcissistic mood. Mr Wang, the foreign minister, declares covid-19 an “all-round test” of China’s social system and governance, which China has comprehensively passed. Such swagger offends plenty of foreign governments, especially when they are told to thank and praise China before they are allowed to buy Chinese medical kit. As for rising geopolitical tensions, Chinese officials deny any connection with their assertiveness. Instead they place all blame on established powers sulking about relative decline.China is not the only large country consumed with its own grievances. America First is a narcissistic slogan, too. But there is at least a bleak candour to President Donald Trump’s pitch to the world. Unblushing self-interest is his brand. In contrast Chinese envoys talk of being a responsible, globally minded major power. Then they turn round and stoke nationalism at home, and play the obnoxious bully abroad. Fighting as a lone wolf is dangerous in an action film. It is even riskier as a foreign policy.
bump this to the top for tomorrow, half interesting read, has it’s own propaganda is my view, but some interesting elements
sarahs mum said:
The Arts Party
6 hrs ·This is a fail in so many ways… here’s another: “In the midst of all that, the government plans to make students studying in areas like arts, law and commerce pay more to do so. These are some of the few disciplines in which government subsidies per student are only marginally less than the cost of teaching them. Unlike in the very disciplines it wants to see student numbers swell.
In other words, it is putting in place a price barrier, which if its goal is achieved will deter students from studying in the humanities. But these are the disciplines in which universities can actually make money.
Why? Because the overheads are far lower than in the sciences. No labs, no expensive equipment. All that arts, law and commerce students require are the internet, PowerPoint, a basic lecture theatre and the occasional book.
These students are already subsidising the students doing STEM degrees. The more of these students universities have, the more spare cash per student they can use to subsidise those in the more expensive disciplines such as medicine and nursing.
However, this policy deters students from studying in the humanities, encouraging them instead to take up STEM subjects. Costing universities more at the very same time as imposing price-point disincentives for students wishing to study in the areas that generally help subsidise such disciplines.
It is a massive fiscal fail by the government — a sure sign this policy has been crafted on the back of an envelope, and without adequate sector-wide consultation. Or thought through for the unintended consequences it might provoke. Basic ingredients of good public policy-making.”
I wonder how much knee-jerk “ideology” was involved in these decisions.
Bubblecar said:
Getting damp down your way sarahs mum? Rain expected here for the next 5-6 days.It’s still wet and muddy everywhere from the last lot.
Damp but not wet.
I don’t know what happened to my system then. One minute I was watching live calf branding in Idaho next thing..nothing. All seem okay after reboot.
Why were you watching live calf branding in Idaho ?
sibeen said:
Why were you watching live calf branding in Idaho ?
She might have been watching Idaho potatoes being packed, and it was the next in the feed.
Packing Idaho Potatoes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdgWB5L5KEI
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
The Arts Party
6 hrs ·This is a fail in so many ways… here’s another: “In the midst of all that, the government plans to make students studying in areas like arts, law and commerce pay more to do so. These are some of the few disciplines in which government subsidies per student are only marginally less than the cost of teaching them. Unlike in the very disciplines it wants to see student numbers swell.
In other words, it is putting in place a price barrier, which if its goal is achieved will deter students from studying in the humanities. But these are the disciplines in which universities can actually make money.
Why? Because the overheads are far lower than in the sciences. No labs, no expensive equipment. All that arts, law and commerce students require are the internet, PowerPoint, a basic lecture theatre and the occasional book.
These students are already subsidising the students doing STEM degrees. The more of these students universities have, the more spare cash per student they can use to subsidise those in the more expensive disciplines such as medicine and nursing.
However, this policy deters students from studying in the humanities, encouraging them instead to take up STEM subjects. Costing universities more at the very same time as imposing price-point disincentives for students wishing to study in the areas that generally help subsidise such disciplines.
It is a massive fiscal fail by the government — a sure sign this policy has been crafted on the back of an envelope, and without adequate sector-wide consultation. Or thought through for the unintended consequences it might provoke. Basic ingredients of good public policy-making.”
I wonder how much knee-jerk “ideology” was involved in these decisions.
It’s just culture wars.
Brindabellas was lamenting this stuff in regards to her son. He was planning a gap year I think and then planning to do music at uni. He should probably do a plumbing apprenticeship and sit in on a jazz band on Saturday nights. Who needs composition studies?
Bubblecar said:
sibeen said:
Why were you watching live calf branding in Idaho ?
She might have been watching Idaho potatoes being packed, and it was the next in the feed.
Packing Idaho Potatoes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdgWB5L5KEI
Damn, no sound on that :/
They would be making a good rumble & chooker-chooker din.
sibeen said:
Why were you watching live calf branding in Idaho ?
To tell you the truth it wasn’t being pleasant. I did watch most of the calves being born and tagged.
They are trialling a set of Australian yards and crushes. The system was working well.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
The Arts Party
6 hrs ·This is a fail in so many ways… here’s another: “In the midst of all that, the government plans to make students studying in areas like arts, law and commerce pay more to do so. These are some of the few disciplines in which government subsidies per student are only marginally less than the cost of teaching them. Unlike in the very disciplines it wants to see student numbers swell.
In other words, it is putting in place a price barrier, which if its goal is achieved will deter students from studying in the humanities. But these are the disciplines in which universities can actually make money.
Why? Because the overheads are far lower than in the sciences. No labs, no expensive equipment. All that arts, law and commerce students require are the internet, PowerPoint, a basic lecture theatre and the occasional book.
These students are already subsidising the students doing STEM degrees. The more of these students universities have, the more spare cash per student they can use to subsidise those in the more expensive disciplines such as medicine and nursing.
However, this policy deters students from studying in the humanities, encouraging them instead to take up STEM subjects. Costing universities more at the very same time as imposing price-point disincentives for students wishing to study in the areas that generally help subsidise such disciplines.
It is a massive fiscal fail by the government — a sure sign this policy has been crafted on the back of an envelope, and without adequate sector-wide consultation. Or thought through for the unintended consequences it might provoke. Basic ingredients of good public policy-making.”
I wonder how much knee-jerk “ideology” was involved in these decisions.
It’s just culture wars.
Brindabellas was lamenting this stuff in regards to her son. He was planning a gap year I think and then planning to do music at uni. He should probably do a plumbing apprenticeship and sit in on a jazz band on Saturday nights. Who needs composition studies?
Ooo, Ooo, I know this one as one of my cousins kids is in his final year doing this at Melbourne Uni.
It’s people who want to be composers.
smug look
Bubblecar said:
sibeen said:
Why were you watching live calf branding in Idaho ?
She might have been watching Idaho potatoes being packed, and it was the next in the feed.
Packing Idaho Potatoes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdgWB5L5KEI
I did see pockets of kennebecs for sale this week.
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:
Why were you watching live calf branding in Idaho ?
To tell you the truth it wasn’t being pleasant. I did watch most of the calves being born and tagged.
They are trialling a set of Australian yards and crushes. The system was working well.
Australian yards and crushes? Are these a thing?
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
sibeen said:
Why were you watching live calf branding in Idaho ?
She might have been watching Idaho potatoes being packed, and it was the next in the feed.
Packing Idaho Potatoes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdgWB5L5KEI
Damn, no sound on that :/
They would be making a good rumble & chooker-chooker din.
Good sized spuds. Even crop. But yes, it would be better with a sound track.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
The Arts Party
6 hrs ·This is a fail in so many ways… here’s another: “In the midst of all that, the government plans to make students studying in areas like arts, law and commerce pay more to do so. These are some of the few disciplines in which government subsidies per student are only marginally less than the cost of teaching them. Unlike in the very disciplines it wants to see student numbers swell.
In other words, it is putting in place a price barrier, which if its goal is achieved will deter students from studying in the humanities. But these are the disciplines in which universities can actually make money.
Why? Because the overheads are far lower than in the sciences. No labs, no expensive equipment. All that arts, law and commerce students require are the internet, PowerPoint, a basic lecture theatre and the occasional book.
These students are already subsidising the students doing STEM degrees. The more of these students universities have, the more spare cash per student they can use to subsidise those in the more expensive disciplines such as medicine and nursing.
However, this policy deters students from studying in the humanities, encouraging them instead to take up STEM subjects. Costing universities more at the very same time as imposing price-point disincentives for students wishing to study in the areas that generally help subsidise such disciplines.
It is a massive fiscal fail by the government — a sure sign this policy has been crafted on the back of an envelope, and without adequate sector-wide consultation. Or thought through for the unintended consequences it might provoke. Basic ingredients of good public policy-making.”
I wonder how much knee-jerk “ideology” was involved in these decisions.
It’s just culture wars.
Brindabellas was lamenting this stuff in regards to her son. He was planning a gap year I think and then planning to do music at uni. He should probably do a plumbing apprenticeship and sit in on a jazz band on Saturday nights. Who needs composition studies?
:(
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:
Why were you watching live calf branding in Idaho ?
To tell you the truth it wasn’t being pleasant. I did watch most of the calves being born and tagged.
They are trialling a set of Australian yards and crushes. The system was working well.
Australian yards and crushes? Are these a thing?
Apparently. It’s some graziers who have welded themselves into a future during a drought.
The calf table is not released in the states yet. They have the old calf table bolted into the system and it’s pretty on calves.
Anyway, I’m off to the studio to do some useless unprofitable art.
It’s nice and quiet working in there at this time of night.
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:To tell you the truth it wasn’t being pleasant. I did watch most of the calves being born and tagged.
They are trialling a set of Australian yards and crushes. The system was working well.
Australian yards and crushes? Are these a thing?
Apparently. It’s some graziers who have welded themselves into a future during a drought.
The calf table is not released in the states yet. They have the old calf table bolted into the system and it’s pretty on calves.
I just assumed that any country that has cattle has a form of the crush.
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:To tell you the truth it wasn’t being pleasant. I did watch most of the calves being born and tagged.
They are trialling a set of Australian yards and crushes. The system was working well.
Australian yards and crushes? Are these a thing?
Apparently. It’s some graziers who have welded themselves into a future during a drought.
The calf table is not released in the states yet. They have the old calf table bolted into the system and it’s pretty on calves.
I just assumed that any country that has cattle has a form of the crush.
Bubblecar said:
Anyway, I’m off to the studio to do some useless unprofitable art.It’s nice and quiet working in there at this time of night.
I’m still contemplating art. I have a few google images of Mt Anne. It has good form. I think I can do something with Mt Anne.
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:Australian yards and crushes? Are these a thing?
Apparently. It’s some graziers who have welded themselves into a future during a drought.
The calf table is not released in the states yet. They have the old calf table bolted into the system and it’s pretty on calves.
I just assumed that any country that has cattle has a form of the crush.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Livestock_crush
Appears to be fairly well known.
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:To tell you the truth it wasn’t being pleasant. I did watch most of the calves being born and tagged.
They are trialling a set of Australian yards and crushes. The system was working well.
Australian yards and crushes? Are these a thing?
Apparently. It’s some graziers who have welded themselves into a future during a drought.
The calf table is not released in the states yet. They have the old calf table bolted into the system and it’s pretty on calves.
I’ll admit the calf table is a new one on me. When I was a kid and helping my grandfather we just held on real tight :)
sibeen said:
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:Apparently. It’s some graziers who have welded themselves into a future during a drought.
The calf table is not released in the states yet. They have the old calf table bolted into the system and it’s pretty on calves.
I just assumed that any country that has cattle has a form of the crush.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Livestock_crush
Appears to be fairly well known.
I know. I know.
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:Australian yards and crushes? Are these a thing?
Apparently. It’s some graziers who have welded themselves into a future during a drought.
The calf table is not released in the states yet. They have the old calf table bolted into the system and it’s pretty on calves.
I’ll admit the calf table is a new one on me. When I was a kid and helping my grandfather we just held on real tight :)
I have seen calving tables before.
But yards have been changing. These ones are designed to move cows in curves and circles because we are told that cows prefer that way to straight chutes. Circular yards with sweeps. The system came as a kit and he put it together with a forklift and a power tool for the bolts all by himself in two days. Although they said it would take one. Like my kit kitchen. They said it would take one person two days and it took two people two days and one of them was a carpenter.sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:Apparently. It’s some graziers who have welded themselves into a future during a drought.
The calf table is not released in the states yet. They have the old calf table bolted into the system and it’s pretty on calves.
I’ll admit the calf table is a new one on me. When I was a kid and helping my grandfather we just held on real tight :)
I have seen calving tables before.
But yards have been changing. These ones are designed to move cows in curves and circles because we are told that cows prefer that way to straight chutes. Circular yards with sweeps. The system came as a kit and he put it together with a forklift and a power tool for the bolts all by himself in two days. Although they said it would take one. Like my kit kitchen. They said it would take one person two days and it took two people two days and one of them was a carpenter.
He did get the site bulldozed and laser levelled before installation. That’s a bit of work.
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:Australian yards and crushes? Are these a thing?
Apparently. It’s some graziers who have welded themselves into a future during a drought.
The calf table is not released in the states yet. They have the old calf table bolted into the system and it’s pretty on calves.
I just assumed that any country that has cattle has a form of the crush.
Not since Temple Grandin involved herself. She’s completely re-written the book. A crush ain’t a crush by a long shot any more.
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:Apparently. It’s some graziers who have welded themselves into a future during a drought.
The calf table is not released in the states yet. They have the old calf table bolted into the system and it’s pretty on calves.
I’ll admit the calf table is a new one on me. When I was a kid and helping my grandfather we just held on real tight :)
I have seen calving tables before.
But yards have been changing. These ones are designed to move cows in curves and circles because we are told that cows prefer that way to straight chutes. Circular yards with sweeps. The system came as a kit and he put it together with a forklift and a power tool for the bolts all by himself in two days. Although they said it would take one. Like my kit kitchen. They said it would take one person two days and it took two people two days and one of them was a carpenter.
Twenty years ago, I was reasonably well off and SWMBO and I had gone to Harvey Norman and ordered a quite expensive outdoor setting. The next day I fly off for work to Italy for six weeks. A fortnight later the setting turns up on the truck and they off load about 20 flat-packs.
SWMBO: “What’s this?”
Delivery bloke: “ “The garden setting you ordered.”
SWMBO: “No, I ordered a completely assembled set”
Delivery bloke: “ “This is what we were told to deliver.”
SWMBO: “Take it away, right now”
SWMBO then rings the store and explains what is going on. The store manager tries to fob her off and tell her that she doesn’t understand how these things work. That was a mistake :)
SWMBO manages $M dollar contracts. She eats contract resolution for breakfast.
Two days later the garden set arrives still in boxes but accompanying itwas two blokes to put it together. Took them the whole day.
A week later all Harvey Norman stores have a sign on their flat pack delivered furniture to explain that you need to put it together yourself :)
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:I’ll admit the calf table is a new one on me. When I was a kid and helping my grandfather we just held on real tight :)
I have seen calving tables before.
But yards have been changing. These ones are designed to move cows in curves and circles because we are told that cows prefer that way to straight chutes. Circular yards with sweeps. The system came as a kit and he put it together with a forklift and a power tool for the bolts all by himself in two days. Although they said it would take one. Like my kit kitchen. They said it would take one person two days and it took two people two days and one of them was a carpenter.Twenty years ago, I was reasonably well off and SWMBO and I had gone to Harvey Norman and ordered a quite expensive outdoor setting. The next day I fly off for work to Italy for six weeks. A fortnight later the setting turns up on the truck and they off load about 20 flat-packs.
SWMBO: “What’s this?”
Delivery bloke: “ “The garden setting you ordered.”
SWMBO: “No, I ordered a completely assembled set”
Delivery bloke: “ “This is what we were told to deliver.”
SWMBO: “Take it away, right now”SWMBO then rings the store and explains what is going on. The store manager tries to fob her off and tell her that she doesn’t understand how these things work. That was a mistake :)
SWMBO manages $M dollar contracts. She eats contract resolution for breakfast.
Two days later the garden set arrives still in boxes but accompanying itwas two blokes to put it together. Took them the whole day.
A week later all Harvey Norman stores have a sign on their flat pack delivered furniture to explain that you need to put it together yourself :)
Trail blazing.
I am thinking of trying a flat pack day bed. I should be able to cope. Perhaps.
sibeen said:
SWMBO manages $M dollar contracts. She eats contract resolution for breakfast.
Hope you’ve read the fine print on your marriage contract?
Good morning Holidayers. Three degrees and light overcast. Our forecast for today is for a shower or two and 11 degrees. I think I should probably light the woodheater.
Damn. Apparent terror attack in Reading, the town of my birth, in the Forbury Gardens where we used to play:
Three people feared dead as police respond to mass stabbing in Britain
Three people are feared dead and two others critically wounded in a mass stabbing in Britain that is reportedly being treated as a terror attack.
The incident occurred at 7pm on Saturday at Forbury Gardens in Reading, a city about 70 kilometres to the west of London.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/police-respond-to-mass-stabbing-in-britain-20200621-p554m1.html
Hey Bubblecar, do you know what that piece of music, a waltz, that sounds a bit like the Hitchcock theme is?
dv said:
Hey Bubblecar, do you know what that piece of music, a waltz, that sounds a bit like the Hitchcock theme is?
Can’t think of a waltz that reminds me much of the Hitchcock theme.
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:
I predict a few of us will be expecting ripper tax returns this year. Anyone got anything picked out to spend it on yet?
Probably stock up on another 6 months worth of bog roll. All good Australian made bog roll of course, to support local jobs.
No need.
roughbarked said:
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:
I predict a few of us will be expecting ripper tax returns this year. Anyone got anything picked out to spend it on yet?
Probably stock up on another 6 months worth of bog roll. All good Australian made bog roll of course, to support local jobs.
No need.
dv said:
Hey Bubblecar, do you know what that piece of music, a waltz, that sounds a bit like the Hitchcock theme is?
I thought Poindexter was the expert on these things?
I can’t even think how the Hoitchcock theme goes at the moment so don’t ask me.
(If you want some information on alt. British folk/jazz/rock, 1965-72, I’m your man though.)
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
party_pants said:Probably stock up on another 6 months worth of bog roll. All good Australian made bog roll of course, to support local jobs.
No need.
Too old. Too poor. Don’t pay tax.
So what are the changes that will benefit not-old, not-poor people anyway?
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
Hey Bubblecar, do you know what that piece of music, a waltz, that sounds a bit like the Hitchcock theme is?
I thought Poindexter was the expert on these things?
I can’t even think how the Hoitchcock theme goes at the moment so don’t ask me.
(If you want some information on alt. British folk/jazz/rock, 1965-72, I’m your man though.)
Which Hitchcock theme? Was there one for all of his movies?
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
Hey Bubblecar, do you know what that piece of music, a waltz, that sounds a bit like the Hitchcock theme is?
I thought Poindexter was the expert on these things?
I can’t even think how the Hoitchcock theme goes at the moment so don’t ask me.
(If you want some information on alt. British folk/jazz/rock, 1965-72, I’m your man though.)
Which Hitchcock theme? Was there one for all of his movies?
“Alfred Hitchcock Presents?“https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funeral_March_of_a_Marionette
The Rev Dodgson said:
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:No need.
Too old. Too poor. Don’t pay tax.So what are the changes that will benefit not-old, not-poor people anyway?
They’ve plenty of life and money left to play with.
Bubblecar said:
Damn. Apparent terror attack in Reading, the town of my birth, in the Forbury Gardens where we used to play:Three people feared dead as police respond to mass stabbing in Britain
Three people are feared dead and two others critically wounded in a mass stabbing in Britain that is reportedly being treated as a terror attack.
The incident occurred at 7pm on Saturday at Forbury Gardens in Reading, a city about 70 kilometres to the west of London.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/police-respond-to-mass-stabbing-in-britain-20200621-p554m1.html
Didn’t know/ had forgotten you were from Reading.
Not far from where I spent most of my older growing up years (Camberley).
This sort of attack in early evening at a public garden in Reading is indeed disturbing.
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Tamb said:Too old. Too poor. Don’t pay tax.
So what are the changes that will benefit not-old, not-poor people anyway?
They’ve plenty of life and money left to play with.
OK, but I’d missed the announcement there was a tax rebate for that.
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
Hey Bubblecar, do you know what that piece of music, a waltz, that sounds a bit like the Hitchcock theme is?
I thought Poindexter was the expert on these things?
I can’t even think how the Hoitchcock theme goes at the moment so don’t ask me.
(If you want some information on alt. British folk/jazz/rock, 1965-72, I’m your man though.)
Which Hitchcock theme? Was there one for all of his movies?
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
Hey Bubblecar, do you know what that piece of music, a waltz, that sounds a bit like the Hitchcock theme is?
I thought Poindexter was the expert on these things?
I can’t even think how the Hoitchcock theme goes at the moment so don’t ask me.
(If you want some information on alt. British folk/jazz/rock, 1965-72, I’m your man though.)
Which Hitchcock theme? Was there one for all of his movies?
I mean the one from his TV show, ie the March of the Marionettes
dv said:
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:I thought Poindexter was the expert on these things?
I can’t even think how the Hoitchcock theme goes at the moment so don’t ask me.
(If you want some information on alt. British folk/jazz/rock, 1965-72, I’m your man though.)
Which Hitchcock theme? Was there one for all of his movies?
I mean the one from his TV show, ie the March of the Marionettes
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=hitchcock+theme+tv&docid=608047427623913550&mid=2B0F154AE55C79BF99492B0F154AE55C79BF9949&view=detail&FORM=VIRE
I’d completely forgotten the music, remember the animation though.
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
roughbarked said:Which Hitchcock theme? Was there one for all of his movies?
I mean the one from his TV show, ie the March of the Marionettes
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=hitchcock+theme+tv&docid=608047427623913550&mid=2B0F154AE55C79BF99492B0F154AE55C79BF9949&view=detail&FORM=VIRE
I’d completely forgotten the music, remember the animation though.
dv said:
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:I thought Poindexter was the expert on these things?
I can’t even think how the Hoitchcock theme goes at the moment so don’t ask me.
(If you want some information on alt. British folk/jazz/rock, 1965-72, I’m your man though.)
Which Hitchcock theme? Was there one for all of his movies?
I mean the one from his TV show, ie the March of the Marionettes
Here are a few notes of the tune I’m thinking of. In the real deal the oboe is in charge, back by a full orchestra.
http://dazvoz.com/sounds_hitchy.mp3
dv said:
dv said:
roughbarked said:Which Hitchcock theme? Was there one for all of his movies?
I mean the one from his TV show, ie the March of the Marionettes
Here are a few notes of the tune I’m thinking of. In the real deal the oboe is in charge, back by a full orchestra.
http://dazvoz.com/sounds_hitchy.mp3
Tamb said:
dv said:
dv said:I mean the one from his TV show, ie the March of the Marionettes
Here are a few notes of the tune I’m thinking of. In the real deal the oboe is in charge, back by a full orchestra.
http://dazvoz.com/sounds_hitchy.mp3
That’s the one I’m thinking of too.
Right. What’s it called? Sounds a bit like March of the Marionettes but not enough to be mistaken for it.
dv said:
dv said:
roughbarked said:Which Hitchcock theme? Was there one for all of his movies?
I mean the one from his TV show, ie the March of the Marionettes
Here are a few notes of the tune I’m thinking of. In the real deal the oboe is in charge, back by a full orchestra.
http://dazvoz.com/sounds_hitchy.mp3
That’s easy enough.
If you go out to the woods today
You’re in for a big surpise.
For today is the day of the Teddy Bear’s Picnic.
roughbarked said:
dv said:
dv said:I mean the one from his TV show, ie the March of the Marionettes
Here are a few notes of the tune I’m thinking of. In the real deal the oboe is in charge, back by a full orchestra.
http://dazvoz.com/sounds_hitchy.mp3
That’s easy enough.
If you go out to the woods today
You’re in for a big surpise.For today is the day of the Teddy Bear’s Picnic.
Similar but not the same.
Also similar to the Marionettes choon but not the same.
They’ve played it on Classic FM a couple of times but I never catch the title.
roughbarked said:
dv said:
dv said:I mean the one from his TV show, ie the March of the Marionettes
Here are a few notes of the tune I’m thinking of. In the real deal the oboe is in charge, back by a full orchestra.
http://dazvoz.com/sounds_hitchy.mp3
That’s easy enough.
If you go out to the woods today
You’re in for a big surpise.For today is the day of the Teddy Bear’s Picnic.
Bubblecar said:
roughbarked said:
dv said:Here are a few notes of the tune I’m thinking of. In the real deal the oboe is in charge, back by a full orchestra.
http://dazvoz.com/sounds_hitchy.mp3
That’s easy enough.
If you go out to the woods today
You’re in for a big surpise.For today is the day of the Teddy Bear’s Picnic.
Similar but not the same.
Also similar to the Marionettes choon but not the same.
By coincidence, I’ve just been playing one of my dances on cittern & rebec in which the first two bars sound very similar to Teddy Bears’ Picnic :)
dv said:
They’ve played it on Classic FM a couple of times but I never catch the title.
Yes, it’s a well known one but my memory for names etc is often stumped even by quite well known pieces.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
roughbarked said:That’s easy enough.
If you go out to the woods today
You’re in for a big surpise.For today is the day of the Teddy Bear’s Picnic.
Similar but not the same.
Also similar to the Marionettes choon but not the same.
By coincidence, I’ve just been playing one of my dances on cittern & rebec in which the first two bars sound very similar to Teddy Bears’ Picnic :)
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
party_pants said:Probably stock up on another 6 months worth of bog roll. All good Australian made bog roll of course, to support local jobs.
No need.
Too old. Too poor. Don’t pay tax.
This here, too.
Michael V said:
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:No need.
Too old. Too poor. Don’t pay tax.This here, too.
Michael V said:
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:No need.
Too old. Too poor. Don’t pay tax.This here, too.
OK, but I want to hear from the rich youngsters!
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:
Tamb said:Too old. Too poor. Don’t pay tax.
This here, too.
OK, but I want to hear from the rich youngsters!
They’re all living with their parents …
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:
Tamb said:Too old. Too poor. Don’t pay tax.
This here, too.
OK, but I want to hear from the rich youngsters!
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:
Tamb said:Too old. Too poor. Don’t pay tax.
This here, too.
OK, but I want to hear from the rich youngsters!
wish i were young and rich instead of just good looking.
I say “Waltz”, I just mean it is in 3/4 time, I don’t know whether waltz is in the title.
dv said:
They’ve played it on Classic FM a couple of times but I never catch the title.
Have a read of these two pages, dv.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funeral_March_of_a_Marionette#Use_in_films_and_television
https://web.archive.org/web/20080221144330/http://www.classicthemes.com/50sTVThemes/themePages/alfredHitchcock.html
Tamb said:
Michael V said:
Tamb said:Too old. Too poor. Don’t pay tax.
This here, too.
Misery loves company.
Ha!
Morning pilgrims, sorry I’m late.
Just been listening to Trumps speech in front of a massive crowd, one of the bigliest crowds ever.
And like DV he’s right onto fox News.
Terrific stuff.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:
Tamb said:Too old. Too poor. Don’t pay tax.
This here, too.
OK, but I want to hear from the rich youngsters!
How can I help, Boomer?
Peak Warming Man said:
Morning pilgrims, sorry I’m late.
Just been listening to Trumps speech in front of a massive crowd, one of the bigliest crowds ever.
And like DV he’s right onto fox News.
Terrific stuff.
Michael V said:
dv said:
They’ve played it on Classic FM a couple of times but I never catch the title.
Have a read of these two pages, dv.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funeral_March_of_a_Marionette#Use_in_films_and_television
https://web.archive.org/web/20080221144330/http://www.classicthemes.com/50sTVThemes/themePages/alfredHitchcock.html
Michael V, thank you, but we’re discussing a different piece of music. One that is a bit similar to FMOAM, but not enough to be mistaken for it.
Peak Warming Man said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:This here, too.
OK, but I want to hear from the rich youngsters!
How can I help, Boomer?
At last.
Please tell us how to get untold riches from our tax returns young man.
Speaking of music, I don’t agree much with Adams P apart from his choice of music for Late Night Live.
Peak Warming Man said:
Speaking of music, I don’t agree much with Adams P .
Probably too old for you.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Speaking of music, I don’t agree much with Adams P .
Probably too old for you.
The current theme is the first movement of Brescianello’s violin concerto no. 4 in e-minor, Op. 1.
It’s excellent.
It’s a beautiful day in the Pearl of the South Specific today.
Warm and sunny with just a zephyr of a breeze.
The sort of day that would turn a young girls fancy to mowing.
Peak Warming Man said:
It’s a beautiful day in the Pearl of the South Specific today.
Warm and sunny with just a zephyr of a breeze.
The sort of day that would turn a young girls fancy to mowing.
Bit cold here
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:
It’s a beautiful day in the Pearl of the South Specific today.
Warm and sunny with just a zephyr of a breeze.
The sort of day that would turn a young girls fancy to mowing.
Bit cold here
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:
It’s a beautiful day in the Pearl of the South Specific today.
Warm and sunny with just a zephyr of a breeze.
The sort of day that would turn a young girls fancy to mowing.
Bit cold here
yeah, a tad daffer.
Tamb said:
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:
It’s a beautiful day in the Pearl of the South Specific today.
Warm and sunny with just a zephyr of a breeze.
The sort of day that would turn a young girls fancy to mowing.
Bit cold here
Too damp for mowing. Rained 13 of the 21 days this month.
You’ve had a cyclone free summer so I guess your overall rainfall would be down, yeah?
JudgeMental said:
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:
It’s a beautiful day in the Pearl of the South Specific today.
Warm and sunny with just a zephyr of a breeze.
The sort of day that would turn a young girls fancy to mowing.
Bit cold here
yeah, a tad daffer.
Is daffer a thing?
dv said:
JudgeMental said:
dv said:Bit cold here
yeah, a tad daffer.
Is daffer a thing?
daffer dilly = chilly.
Peak Warming Man said:
Tamb said:
dv said:Bit cold here
Too damp for mowing. Rained 13 of the 21 days this month.You’ve had a cyclone free summer so I guess your overall rainfall would be down, yeah?
DA..
https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/a-forensic-cleaner-explains-how-he-tackles-death-cleans-sewage-and-hoarders-homes/news-story/2d1107016b708626b48600870dccd48a
JudgeMental said:
dv said:
JudgeMental said:yeah, a tad daffer.
Is daffer a thing?
daffer dilly = chilly.
Search Results
Web results
Yakov Dzhugashvili = chilly
Arts said:
DA..https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/a-forensic-cleaner-explains-how-he-tackles-death-cleans-sewage-and-hoarders-homes/news-story/2d1107016b708626b48600870dccd48a
Ooh fanks
Tamb said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Tamb said:Too damp for mowing. Rained 13 of the 21 days this month.
You’ve had a cyclone free summer so I guess your overall rainfall would be down, yeah?
Just did the sums. Jan to May only 5mm under average.
Well 5mm is nothing really.
We need to get Zarkov to write a book called The Death of Cyclones.
Peak Warming Man said:
Tamb said:
Peak Warming Man said:You’ve had a cyclone free summer so I guess your overall rainfall would be down, yeah?
Just did the sums. Jan to May only 5mm under average.Well 5mm is nothing really.
We need to get Zarkov to write a book called The Death of Cyclones.
Arts said:
DA..https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/a-forensic-cleaner-explains-how-he-tackles-death-cleans-sewage-and-hoarders-homes/news-story/2d1107016b708626b48600870dccd48a
I can’t deal with vomit. Just eww.
Interesting g that he doesn’t mention enzyme cleaning agents. I thought they were standard for those kinds of cleans.
Tamb said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Tamb said:Just did the sums. Jan to May only 5mm under average.
Well 5mm is nothing really.
We need to get Zarkov to write a book called The Death of Cyclones.
Is he still around?
Well not here, he may even qualify for the TDTHD thread.
Peak Warming Man said:
Tamb said:
Peak Warming Man said:Well 5mm is nothing really.
We need to get Zarkov to write a book called The Death of Cyclones.
Is he still around?Well not here, he may even qualify for the TDTHD thread.
Peak Warming Man said:
Tamb said:
Peak Warming Man said:Well 5mm is nothing really.
We need to get Zarkov to write a book called The Death of Cyclones.
Is he still around?Well not here, he may even qualify for the TDTHD thread.
Last FB entry aug 18 2015.
Divine Angel said:
Arts said:
DA..https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/a-forensic-cleaner-explains-how-he-tackles-death-cleans-sewage-and-hoarders-homes/news-story/2d1107016b708626b48600870dccd48a
I can’t deal with vomit. Just eww.
Interesting g that he doesn’t mention enzyme cleaning agents. I thought they were standard for those kinds of cleans.
something tells me that most of the cleaning agents used are a sort of a trade secret because if that information was readily at hand, it might inhibit investigations. /guess.
TDTHD almost looks like thud thud.. which is symbolic.
JudgeMental said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Tamb said:Is he still around?
Well not here, he may even qualify for the TDTHD thread.
Last FB entry aug 18 2015.
Didn’t he have another handle? Greek or something like that.
JudgeMental said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Tamb said:Is he still around?
Well not here, he may even qualify for the TDTHD thread.
Last FB entry aug 18 2015.
He had a new book placed in the National Library in 2015. The armageddon factor / John Caley B.Sc, B.Ed
Hillsong Church is trying to proselytise their religion in Australian Schools. We say NO
https://www.change.org/p/federal-minister-for-education-hillsong-church-is-trying-to-proselytise-their-religion-in-australian-schools-we-say-no
I’m thinking of a substantial cooked lunch, yes I’m looking at you bacon.
Anybody else from the forums got a science book placed in the National Library besides Zarkov, he’s got two
Peak Warming Man said:
I’m thinking of a substantial cooked lunch, yes I’m looking at you bacon.
I’m currently using some flour to cook pikelets for Mini Me’s school snacks this week.
She and Mr Mutant have gone to cash in some drink bottles for cash.

sarahs mum said:
🤦♀️
Peak Warming Man said:
Anybody else from the forums got a science book placed in the National Library besides Zarkov, he’s got two
sarahs mum said:
surprised this wasn’t developed earlier
Peak Warming Man said:
Anybody else from the forums got a science book placed in the National Library besides Zarkov, he’s got two
I’m sure the erotic poetry guy’s works could be regarded as science, when observed from the right angle through half closed eyes.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Anybody else from the forums got a science book placed in the National Library besides Zarkov, he’s got two
I’m sure the erotic poetry guy’s works could be regarded as science, when observed from the right angle through half closed eyes.
Good point, C L Dean could have a few
sarahs mum said:
Hillsong Church is trying to proselytise their religion in Australian Schools. We say NOhttps://www.change.org/p/federal-minister-for-education-hillsong-church-is-trying-to-proselytise-their-religion-in-australian-schools-we-say-no
Signed it.
Peak Warming Man said:
It’s a beautiful day in the Pearl of the South Specific today.
Warm and sunny with just a zephyr of a breeze.
The sort of day that would turn a young girls fancy to mowing.
Too bad for us old chooks then…
(and it is overcast, damp underfoot and I’ve been sorting out the blanket storage)
Divine Angel said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I’m thinking of a substantial cooked lunch, yes I’m looking at you bacon.
I’m currently using some flour to cook pikelets for Mini Me’s school snacks this week.
She and Mr Mutant have gone to cash in some drink bottles for cash.
So while Good Parent is out doing something worthwhile and noble Bad Parent is at home indulging her flour habit.
sarahs mum said:
:)
Peak Warming Man said:
Divine Angel said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I’m thinking of a substantial cooked lunch, yes I’m looking at you bacon.
I’m currently using some flour to cook pikelets for Mini Me’s school snacks this week.
She and Mr Mutant have gone to cash in some drink bottles for cash.
So while Good Parent is out doing something worthwhile and noble Bad Parent is at home indulging her flour habit.
~ indulging her flour habit fetish. Fixed,
Peak Warming Man said:
I’m thinking of a substantial cooked lunch, yes I’m looking at you bacon.
I et reheated roast lamb with a white parsley sauce. Yum. Hot cocoa for drinking. Now I think a slice of lemon & lime cake would be in order.
… and how does 5D chess work?
The Rev Dodgson said:
… and how does 5D chess work?
Perhaps explained here:
https://eraoflight.com/2020/01/08/trumps-5d-chess-strategy/
Peak Warming Man said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Anybody else from the forums got a science book placed in the National Library besides Zarkov, he’s got two
I’m sure the erotic poetry guy’s works could be regarded as science, when observed from the right angle through half closed eyes.
Good point, C L Dean could have a few
Jesus wept, these are just a few.

The Rev Dodgson said:
… and how does 5D chess work?
You set up the chess board as usual.
Then, you know those red-and-blue 3D glasses? You put on a pair of those.
Now, you still need another two dimensions, but you don’t want another pair of glasses, because that’ll give you 6D. You’re not ready for that, bucko!
So, you take a pair of scissors and chop 1/3 off the second pair of glasses.
Put them on over the top of the first pair, and make your opening move.
“Science book”
The Rev Dodgson said:
… and how does 5D chess work?
Drongo Dumbshit Dickhead Donald Dump Chess
SCIENCE said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
… and how does 5D chess work?
Drongo Dumbshit Dickhead Donald Dump Chess
It’ll be under every Christmas tree, mark my words.
I’ll bet the book on pre-contact Victorian Aborigines had a lot of branch stacking in it.
Peak Warming Man said:
I’ll bet the book on pre-contact Victorian Aborigines had a lot of branch stacking in it.
it’s all written in the ships log
best tidy my self up for church, outdoor service again today, weather looks good for it
transition said:
best tidy my self up for church, outdoor service again today, weather looks good for it
They probably wont recognise you with California Poppy and matching thongs.
Peak Warming Man said:
transition said:
best tidy my self up for church, outdoor service again today, weather looks good for itThey probably wont recognise you with California Poppy and matching thongs.
Best black thongs?
OK trend setters…
Measuring tape
Tape measure
which one is correct? which do you use? Or do you use both interchangeably?
party_pants said:
OK trend setters…Measuring tape
Tape measurewhich one is correct? which do you use? Or do you use both interchangeably?
tape measure. or just tape.
party_pants said:
OK trend setters…Measuring tape
Tape measurewhich one is correct? which do you use? Or do you use both interchangeably?
Tape measure here, or just tape.
Sometimes steel tape and cloth tape (sewing).
Sometimes 3 metre tape, 5 metre tape, 8 metre tape, 50 metre tape and 100 metre tape.
Michael V said:
party_pants said:
OK trend setters…Measuring tape
Tape measurewhich one is correct? which do you use? Or do you use both interchangeably?
Tape measure here, or just tape.
Sometimes steel tape and cloth tape (sewing).
Sometimes 3 metre tape, 5 metre tape, 8 metre tape, 50 metre tape and 100 metre tape.
Now you made me think, I think I interchange.
I use tape measure too.
I was just wondering if it was an Australian thing. Been watching a few programs and podcasts from the UK and Canada in recent times, and they seem to say measuring tape.
put missy out, she’s power grazing, got an appetite
yawn take the rubbish to the place where the rubbish goes shortly, after second coffee
and it must be music day, cause some seismic activity, remind the mice who’s boss, though not seen any them for a while, seemed to enjoy the anticoagulants I put out last time
onetime out the farm I put bait under the house, and in the house, the population inside was already substantial, and there was a bit of highway through a hole in the floor where a TV coax once was, anyway reckon was funeral and other business away for better part of week (not entirely a happy time), came back to find quite a few bled out and dead in my bed
so now, here, having learnt my lesson, the murder starts early, first sightings, mostly external, perimeter baiting, yeah I read the instructions on the container, and thought gee that’s a good idea
I just looked…my little tape measure that I had in my consulting room and for home visits (to measure out testing distances) is a Lufkin 3m PeeWee. But I’d not call it a Peewee…still say, I’ll get the tape measure or measuring tape.
buffy said:
Michael V said:
party_pants said:
OK trend setters…Measuring tape
Tape measurewhich one is correct? which do you use? Or do you use both interchangeably?
Tape measure here, or just tape.
Sometimes steel tape and cloth tape (sewing).
Sometimes 3 metre tape, 5 metre tape, 8 metre tape, 50 metre tape and 100 metre tape.
Now you made me think, I think I interchange.
I use both but favour the first.
My Dean fibreglass ones from England for sewing aren’t labelled either way. One of them says “Tape”. I lke the one with both metric and imperial on it. I do seam allowances as 5/8”, although I have converted that in my brain to 1.5cm, but I like to do hems in inches. I suspect that is because when I learnt to sew in the 1970s we did 2” hems on dresses.
Anyone gonna watch the eclipse happening soon?
https://youtu.be/du1JNrFD0M0
Or this one
https://youtu.be/5juhJCPBFYc
buffy said:
My Dean fibreglass ones from England for sewing aren’t labelled either way. One of them says “Tape”. I lke the one with both metric and imperial on it. I do seam allowances as 5/8”, although I have converted that in my brain to 1.5cm, but I like to do hems in inches. I suspect that is because when I learnt to sew in the 1970s we did 2” hems on dresses.
I’m completely native metric, everything at school was done in metric. I don’t think we even learned anything in imperial units nor how to convert them, you kind of had to pick that up for yourself. The only real use for imperial units was for talking to old people.
party_pants said:
buffy said:
My Dean fibreglass ones from England for sewing aren’t labelled either way. One of them says “Tape”. I lke the one with both metric and imperial on it. I do seam allowances as 5/8”, although I have converted that in my brain to 1.5cm, but I like to do hems in inches. I suspect that is because when I learnt to sew in the 1970s we did 2” hems on dresses.I’m completely native metric, everything at school was done in metric. I don’t think we even learned anything in imperial units nor how to convert them, you kind of had to pick that up for yourself. The only real use for imperial units was for talking to old people.
I was learning units as they were about to convert to metric. Thusly I have imperial and metric and some conversion in my brain. Yesterday I was discussing Fiona’s house plans and as we spoke I was converting it into imperial. I still measure rooms in feet.
OK, going to watch Stargate from last night now. I’ve made myself some popcorn.
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:
buffy said:
My Dean fibreglass ones from England for sewing aren’t labelled either way. One of them says “Tape”. I lke the one with both metric and imperial on it. I do seam allowances as 5/8”, although I have converted that in my brain to 1.5cm, but I like to do hems in inches. I suspect that is because when I learnt to sew in the 1970s we did 2” hems on dresses.I’m completely native metric, everything at school was done in metric. I don’t think we even learned anything in imperial units nor how to convert them, you kind of had to pick that up for yourself. The only real use for imperial units was for talking to old people.
I was learning units as they were about to convert to metric. Thusly I have imperial and metric and some conversion in my brain. Yesterday I was discussing Fiona’s house plans and as we spoke I was converting it into imperial. I still measure rooms in feet.
I can understand inches up to about 12 inches (because we had school rulers of 30 cm marked out in both), and I can understand feet up to about 10 feet. Anything larger than that like 42 inches or 42 feet I have no idea, I have to convert them to metric. Miles or pounds, I’ve got no hope.
Tasmania and Victoria have been chosen, but for what?
https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-216.72,-35.34,1821
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:I’m completely native metric, everything at school was done in metric. I don’t think we even learned anything in imperial units nor how to convert them, you kind of had to pick that up for yourself. The only real use for imperial units was for talking to old people.
I was learning units as they were about to convert to metric. Thusly I have imperial and metric and some conversion in my brain. Yesterday I was discussing Fiona’s house plans and as we spoke I was converting it into imperial. I still measure rooms in feet.
I can understand inches up to about 12 inches (because we had school rulers of 30 cm marked out in both), and I can understand feet up to about 10 feet. Anything larger than that like 42 inches or 42 feet I have no idea, I have to convert them to metric. Miles or pounds, I’ve got no hope.
miles per gallon still mean something to me. As a kid filling in the EH log books was one of the things I was trusted with. Kilometres per litre does not mean anything to me.
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:I was learning units as they were about to convert to metric. Thusly I have imperial and metric and some conversion in my brain. Yesterday I was discussing Fiona’s house plans and as we spoke I was converting it into imperial. I still measure rooms in feet.
I can understand inches up to about 12 inches (because we had school rulers of 30 cm marked out in both), and I can understand feet up to about 10 feet. Anything larger than that like 42 inches or 42 feet I have no idea, I have to convert them to metric. Miles or pounds, I’ve got no hope.
miles per gallon still mean something to me. As a kid filling in the EH log books was one of the things I was trusted with. Kilometres per litre does not mean anything to me.
All I know is that my car gets ~600 kms to a full tank of petrol.
The eclipse has started!
https://youtu.be/5juhJCPBFYc
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:I was learning units as they were about to convert to metric. Thusly I have imperial and metric and some conversion in my brain. Yesterday I was discussing Fiona’s house plans and as we spoke I was converting it into imperial. I still measure rooms in feet.
I can understand inches up to about 12 inches (because we had school rulers of 30 cm marked out in both), and I can understand feet up to about 10 feet. Anything larger than that like 42 inches or 42 feet I have no idea, I have to convert them to metric. Miles or pounds, I’ve got no hope.
miles per gallon still mean something to me. As a kid filling in the EH log books was one of the things I was trusted with. Kilometres per litre does not mean anything to me.
Fuel economy (mpg) is something I was unable to metricate as the metric standard is an inverse ratio (L/100 km). I still convert km to miles and litres to gallons and do the long divisions in my head whilst driving, after refuelling the car.
PermeateFree said:
Tasmania and Victoria have been chosen, but for what?https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-216.72,-35.34,1821
Some wind forecast. Lots of rain forecast.
Michael V said:
:)
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:I can understand inches up to about 12 inches (because we had school rulers of 30 cm marked out in both), and I can understand feet up to about 10 feet. Anything larger than that like 42 inches or 42 feet I have no idea, I have to convert them to metric. Miles or pounds, I’ve got no hope.
miles per gallon still mean something to me. As a kid filling in the EH log books was one of the things I was trusted with. Kilometres per litre does not mean anything to me.
Fuel economy (mpg) is something I was unable to metricate as the metric standard is an inverse ratio (L/100 km). I still convert km to miles and litres to gallons and do the long divisions in my head whilst driving, after refuelling the car.
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:I was learning units as they were about to convert to metric. Thusly I have imperial and metric and some conversion in my brain. Yesterday I was discussing Fiona’s house plans and as we spoke I was converting it into imperial. I still measure rooms in feet.
I can understand inches up to about 12 inches (because we had school rulers of 30 cm marked out in both), and I can understand feet up to about 10 feet. Anything larger than that like 42 inches or 42 feet I have no idea, I have to convert them to metric. Miles or pounds, I’ve got no hope.
miles per gallon still mean something to me. As a kid filling in the EH log books was one of the things I was trusted with. Kilometres per litre does not mean anything to me.
I think about the only imperial units I use are pints when ordering beer, and psi when inflating car tyres. I czn’t tink of many others right now. I have no idea about stones or calories.
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:I can understand inches up to about 12 inches (because we had school rulers of 30 cm marked out in both), and I can understand feet up to about 10 feet. Anything larger than that like 42 inches or 42 feet I have no idea, I have to convert them to metric. Miles or pounds, I’ve got no hope.
miles per gallon still mean something to me. As a kid filling in the EH log books was one of the things I was trusted with. Kilometres per litre does not mean anything to me.
Fuel economy (mpg) is something I was unable to metricate as the metric standard is an inverse ratio (L/100 km). I still convert km to miles and litres to gallons and do the long divisions in my head whilst driving, after refuelling the car.
Crikey, I can barely do long division on a calculator!
At school, by the time I actually learned and understood long division, we didn’t have to do it anymore.
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said::)
sarahs mum said:miles per gallon still mean something to me. As a kid filling in the EH log books was one of the things I was trusted with. Kilometres per litre does not mean anything to me.
Fuel economy (mpg) is something I was unable to metricate as the metric standard is an inverse ratio (L/100 km). I still convert km to miles and litres to gallons and do the long divisions in my head whilst driving, after refuelling the car.
But even having said that the Americans you hear or read proclaiming the rest of the world should dump metrics because metrics are stupid are really amusing.
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:I can understand inches up to about 12 inches (because we had school rulers of 30 cm marked out in both), and I can understand feet up to about 10 feet. Anything larger than that like 42 inches or 42 feet I have no idea, I have to convert them to metric. Miles or pounds, I’ve got no hope.
miles per gallon still mean something to me. As a kid filling in the EH log books was one of the things I was trusted with. Kilometres per litre does not mean anything to me.
I think about the only imperial units I use are pints when ordering beer, and psi when inflating car tyres. I czn’t tink of many others right now. I have no idea about stones or calories.
I convert pints in my head a bit. I still think in stones. I still think in calories. I never learned the conversion for calories and joules.
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:miles per gallon still mean something to me. As a kid filling in the EH log books was one of the things I was trusted with. Kilometres per litre does not mean anything to me.
Fuel economy (mpg) is something I was unable to metricate as the metric standard is an inverse ratio (L/100 km). I still convert km to miles and litres to gallons and do the long divisions in my head whilst driving, after refuelling the car.
Crikey, I can barely do long division on a calculator!
At school, by the time I actually learned and understood long division, we didn’t have to do it anymore.
long division is not a thing anymore!?
sarahs mum said:
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:Fuel economy (mpg) is something I was unable to metricate as the metric standard is an inverse ratio (L/100 km). I still convert km to miles and litres to gallons and do the long divisions in my head whilst driving, after refuelling the car.
Crikey, I can barely do long division on a calculator!
At school, by the time I actually learned and understood long division, we didn’t have to do it anymore.
long division is not a thing anymore!?
I was in the dummy maths class. We learned how to do it, but by the time I finally did it properly, we’d moved on to something else.
Remember when schoolteachers said you needed maths because you wouldn’t always be carrying a calculator? Welcome to smart phones with calculator apps.
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said::)Fuel economy (mpg) is something I was unable to metricate as the metric standard is an inverse ratio (L/100 km). I still convert km to miles and litres to gallons and do the long divisions in my head whilst driving, after refuelling the car.
But even having said that the Americans you hear or read proclaiming the rest of the world should dump metrics because metrics are stupid are really amusing.
And the US have a different gallon to the Imperial Gallon, as well other different volume measures with the same names. Metric is easier and standardised.
Divine Angel said:
Remember when schoolteachers said you needed maths because you wouldn’t always be carrying a calculator? Welcome to smart phones with calculator apps.
I don’t have a phone.
By golly gosh, eclipses are cool. I didn’t even know there was one happening today until dad texted me to ask if I was watching it.
Divine Angel said:
Remember when schoolteachers said you needed maths because you wouldn’t always be carrying a calculator? Welcome to smart phones with calculator apps.
Nope, I don’t remember that, because it never happened to me. Calculators arrived well after I left school.
Divine Angel said:
By golly gosh, eclipses are cool. I didn’t even know there was one happening today until dad texted me to ask if I was watching it.
If you can, go see a solar eclipse live. It’s quite extraordinary.
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said::)
But even having said that the Americans you hear or read proclaiming the rest of the world should dump metrics because metrics are stupid are really amusing.
And the US have a different gallon to the Imperial Gallon, as well other different volume measures with the same names. Metric is easier and standardised.
It’s almost like ‘America is the greatest’ is their biggest downfall. Refusing to change is bad for evolution. Take in point their bank notes. They still love their bank notes even though they are readily counterfeited and they could take up or reinvent the Australian notes that are being taken up by other shithole countries.
Divine Angel said:
Remember when schoolteachers said you needed maths because you wouldn’t always be carrying a calculator? Welcome to smart phones with calculator apps.
My teacher in grade 4 was a technology enthusiast. He said that one day in the future we would all carry computers in our pockets, and we’d all have radio telephones. I guess he was proved right.
~16.5mm rain, last couple day, still some around, spitting now, maybe crop on some parts of sandhills might germinate, been banged around, not all wind damage, cut off, too dry for seed to germinate I reckon. Wasn’t really any good window for getting crop in, a comfortable period, then got dry after, fourth consecutive year like that, I think, much as inclined to count them, recall it
i’d reckon maybe ~50% cropped area looks promising, trying to be optimistic there, encouraging, help it along
but does bounce back quick, chirps up with a rain, has chirped up, grass paddocks too
The sun doesn’t look very spotty today.
party_pants said:
Divine Angel said:
Remember when schoolteachers said you needed maths because you wouldn’t always be carrying a calculator? Welcome to smart phones with calculator apps.
My teacher in grade 4 was a technology enthusiast. He said that one day in the future we would all carry computers in our pockets, and we’d all have radio telephones. I guess he was proved right.
It always amuses me that Douglas Adams correctly predicted that we’d all be carrying a guide to the universe in our pockets, but he missed that we would also use them as communications devices.
Divine Angel said:
The sun doesn’t look very spotty today.
there’s a little black spot on the sun today
party_pants said:
Divine Angel said:
Remember when schoolteachers said you needed maths because you wouldn’t always be carrying a calculator? Welcome to smart phones with calculator apps.
My teacher in grade 4 was a technology enthusiast. He said that one day in the future we would all carry computers in our pockets, and we’d all have radio telephones. I guess he was proved right.
We are so close to Dick Tracy’s 2-way wrist TV.
:)
Divine Angel said:
The eclipse has started!https://youtu.be/5juhJCPBFYc
That’s moving quickly :)
Michael V said:
party_pants said:
Divine Angel said:
Remember when schoolteachers said you needed maths because you wouldn’t always be carrying a calculator? Welcome to smart phones with calculator apps.
My teacher in grade 4 was a technology enthusiast. He said that one day in the future we would all carry computers in our pockets, and we’d all have radio telephones. I guess he was proved right.
We are so close to Dick Tracy’s 2-way wrist TV.
:)
Mr Mutant and I were talking this morning about wearables. FitBit devices record your pulse, oxygen saturation etc, but apparently the new Apple smart watches will call someone on your emergency contacts list if you fall over.
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Remember when schoolteachers said you needed maths because you wouldn’t always be carrying a calculator? Welcome to smart phones with calculator apps.
Nope, I don’t remember that, because it never happened to me. Calculators arrived well after I left school.
our mathematics teachers taught us how to live in a world where electronics allowed us to do Real Mathematics, not just arithmetic
Divine Angel said:
By golly gosh, eclipses are cool. I didn’t even know there was one happening today until dad texted me to ask if I was watching it.
Australia gets two soon.
2028 – total eclipse, righover Sydney.
2030 – total eclipse over Chinchilla, SE Qld.
Divine Angel said:
where is bahrian?
JudgeMental said:
Divine Angel said:
where is bahrian?
Just down the coast from Dubia.
captain_spalding said:
Divine Angel said:
By golly gosh, eclipses are cool. I didn’t even know there was one happening today until dad texted me to ask if I was watching it.
Australia gets two soon.
2028 – total eclipse, righover Sydney.
2030 – total eclipse over Chinchilla, SE Qld.
NASA runs a JSEX service for this kind of thing.
Speedy said:
I should save that one.
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Remember when schoolteachers said you needed maths because you wouldn’t always be carrying a calculator? Welcome to smart phones with calculator apps.
Nope, I don’t remember that, because it never happened to me. Calculators arrived well after I left school.
our mathematics teachers taught us how to live in a world where electronics allowed us to do Real Mathematics, not just arithmetic
We had calculators, but we still had to learn how to do navigation the old fashioned paper-and-pencil way. That’s mathematics.
You should have heard some of the groans and howls when people were told they couldn’t use calculators!
Navstar/GPS was available, too, but you still did the old-school thing, then compared it to what the satellites told you.
party_pants said:
Divine Angel said:
Remember when schoolteachers said you needed maths because you wouldn’t always be carrying a calculator? Welcome to smart phones with calculator apps.
My teacher in grade 4 was a technology enthusiast. He said that one day in the future we would all carry computers in our pockets, and we’d all have radio telephones. I guess he was proved right.
We almost have Dick Tracy’s 2 way wrist radio.
The Rev Dodgson said:
JudgeMental said:
Divine Angel said:
where is bahrian?
Just down the coast from Dubia.
george w?
captain_spalding said:
Divine Angel said:
By golly gosh, eclipses are cool. I didn’t even know there was one happening today until dad texted me to ask if I was watching it.
Australia gets two soon.
2028 – total eclipse, righover Sydney.
2030 – total eclipse over Chinchilla, SE Qld.
As there have been no catastrophes with past eclipses, people have lost interest and are now more concerned with other disasters.
captain_spalding said:
Divine Angel said:
By golly gosh, eclipses are cool. I didn’t even know there was one happening today until dad texted me to ask if I was watching it.
Australia gets two soon.
2028 – total eclipse, righover Sydney.
2030 – total eclipse over Chinchilla, SE Qld.
Does every eclipse have to be better than the last one?
The Rev Dodgson said:
JudgeMental said:
Divine Angel said:
where is bahrian?
Just down the coast from Dubia.
Dubious.
Michael V said:
party_pants said:
Divine Angel said:
Remember when schoolteachers said you needed maths because you wouldn’t always be carrying a calculator? Welcome to smart phones with calculator apps.
My teacher in grade 4 was a technology enthusiast. He said that one day in the future we would all carry computers in our pockets, and we’d all have radio telephones. I guess he was proved right.
We are so close to Dick Tracy’s 2-way wrist TV.
:)
Beat me by that > < much.
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:
Divine Angel said:
By golly gosh, eclipses are cool. I didn’t even know there was one happening today until dad texted me to ask if I was watching it.
Australia gets two soon.
2028 – total eclipse, righover Sydney.
2030 – total eclipse over Chinchilla, SE Qld.
Does every eclipse have to be better than the last one?
It’s like ‘economic growth’.
If it doesn’t constantly improve, the world will come to an end. Or something like that.
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Remember when schoolteachers said you needed maths because you wouldn’t always be carrying a calculator? Welcome to smart phones with calculator apps.
Nope, I don’t remember that, because it never happened to me. Calculators arrived well after I left school.
our mathematics teachers taught us how to live in a world where electronics allowed us to do Real Mathematics, not just arithmetic
Tamb said:
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:Nope, I don’t remember that, because it never happened to me. Calculators arrived well after I left school.
our mathematics teachers taught us how to live in a world where electronics allowed us to do Real Mathematics, not just arithmetic
I still have my Hemi Japanese bamboo slide rule.
I have a slide rule in the drawer in the shed.
I have not used trig since I left school. But outside school I learned octal and hexidecimal.
sarahs mum said:
I have not used trig since I left school. But outside school I learned octal and hexidecimal.
It is a long time since I booted in octal.
captain_spalding said:
Tamb said:
SCIENCE said:our mathematics teachers taught us how to live in a world where electronics allowed us to do Real Mathematics, not just arithmetic
I still have my Hemi Japanese bamboo slide rule.I have a slide rule in the drawer in the shed.

sarahs mum said:
I have not used trig since I left school. But outside school I learned octal and hexidecimal.
Tamb said:
sarahs mum said:
I have not used trig since I left school. But outside school I learned octal and hexidecimal.
I used hex to crack someones password.
no that’s mathemagic when you hex a decimal
SCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:
Tamb said:I still have my Hemi Japanese bamboo slide rule.
I have a slide rule in the drawer in the shed.
Tamb said:
SCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:I have a slide rule in the drawer in the shed.
They forgot Burn Bum.
went on a playground slide made of rôllers once, it doesn’t burn as much but when you’re adult size the bumps are quite uncomfortable
and the lower friction makes it scary fast
Tamb said:
Michael V said:
party_pants said:My teacher in grade 4 was a technology enthusiast. He said that one day in the future we would all carry computers in our pockets, and we’d all have radio telephones. I guess he was proved right.
We are so close to Dick Tracy’s 2-way wrist TV.
:)
Beat me by that > < much.
:)
Tamb said:
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:Nope, I don’t remember that, because it never happened to me. Calculators arrived well after I left school.
our mathematics teachers taught us how to live in a world where electronics allowed us to do Real Mathematics, not just arithmetic
I still have my Hemi Japanese bamboo slide rule.
My slide rule is hard white plastic. I couldn’t afford a fancy one.
Michael V said:
Tamb said:
SCIENCE said:our mathematics teachers taught us how to live in a world where electronics allowed us to do Real Mathematics, not just arithmetic
I still have my Hemi Japanese bamboo slide rule.My slide rule is hard white plastic. I couldn’t afford a fancy one.
Mine is plastic, too.
Things was hard in them days. We had to make do.
Michael V said:
Tamb said:
SCIENCE said:our mathematics teachers taught us how to live in a world where electronics allowed us to do Real Mathematics, not just arithmetic
I still have my Hemi Japanese bamboo slide rule.My slide rule is hard white plastic. I couldn’t afford a fancy one.
Can you believe it?
Solar eclipse on the brink of totality, and they cut to vision from India, where the bloody thing has barely started.
And it’s a shithouse image.
Tamb said:
Michael V said:
Tamb said:I still have my Hemi Japanese bamboo slide rule.
My slide rule is hard white plastic. I couldn’t afford a fancy one.
I used my telegram boy earnings to buy it.
Ha! I used my Telegram Boy earnings to buy lunches. My round was on Saturdays at Mosman. The PMG bikes were rubbish, so with the agreement of the Postmaster I used my own (well maintained and much lighter) bike.
Michael V said:
Tamb said:
Michael V said:My slide rule is hard white plastic. I couldn’t afford a fancy one.
I used my telegram boy earnings to buy it.Ha! I used my Telegram Boy earnings to buy lunches. My round was on Saturdays at Mosman. The PMG bikes were rubbish, so with the agreement of the Postmaster I used my own (well maintained and much lighter) bike.
The old PMG single speed bikes were horrors.
At Sylvania there were only two flat roads, all the rest were steep hills.
Tamb said:
Michael V said:
Tamb said:I used my telegram boy earnings to buy it.
Ha! I used my Telegram Boy earnings to buy lunches. My round was on Saturdays at Mosman. The PMG bikes were rubbish, so with the agreement of the Postmaster I used my own (well maintained and much lighter) bike.
The old PMG single speed bikes were horrors.
At Sylvania there were only two flat roads, all the rest were steep hills.
Pretty much like Mosman, then.
It was a good job for me, because I was racing bicycles at that time. I was paid for training. And because I was fast, I got a fair bit more done than others.
Michael V said:
Tamb said:
Michael V said:Ha! I used my Telegram Boy earnings to buy lunches. My round was on Saturdays at Mosman. The PMG bikes were rubbish, so with the agreement of the Postmaster I used my own (well maintained and much lighter) bike.
The old PMG single speed bikes were horrors.
At Sylvania there were only two flat roads, all the rest were steep hills.
Pretty much like Mosman, then.
It was a good job for me, because I was racing bicycles at that time. I was paid for training. And because I was fast, I got a fair bit more done than others.
When I got my motorcycle and motorcycle Ls I did a few hours a day couriering when my shiftwork allowed. I figured I was being paid to learn.
Michael V said:
Tamb said:
Michael V said:Ha! I used my Telegram Boy earnings to buy lunches. My round was on Saturdays at Mosman. The PMG bikes were rubbish, so with the agreement of the Postmaster I used my own (well maintained and much lighter) bike.
The old PMG single speed bikes were horrors.
At Sylvania there were only two flat roads, all the rest were steep hills.
Pretty much like Mosman, then.
It was a good job for me, because I was racing bicycles at that time. I was paid for training. And because I was fast, I got a fair bit more done than others.
I helped print 13 million urgent telegram envelopes way back.
I’ve got a set of scales; they’re inside a draught-proof box with a glass-filled wooden door. A few weeks ago I carefully calibrated the scales to be exactly balanced, but somehow the balance point has shifted and now there’s a slight imbalance, and one pan is slightly lower than the other. I know that there are some variations in gravity, but not so much over such a short distance in such a short time.
btm said:
I’ve got a set of scales; they’re inside a draught-proof box with a glass-filled wooden door. A few weeks ago I carefully calibrated the scales to be exactly balanced, but somehow the balance point has shifted and now there’s a slight imbalance, and one pan is slightly lower than the other. I know that there are some variations in gravity, but not so much over such a short distance in such a short time.
frictional stickiness when adjusted, you need some vibration (dither) when setting them
some history for you..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dither
“…ne of the earliest of dither came in World War II. Airplane bombers used mechanical computers to perform navigation and bomb trajectory calculations. Curiously, these computers (boxes filled with hundreds of gears and cogs) performed more accurately when flying on board the aircraft, and less well on ground. Engineers realized that the vibration from the aircraft reduced the error from sticky moving parts. Instead of moving in short jerks, they moved more continuously. Small vibrating motors were built into the computers, and their vibration was called dither from the Middle English verb “didderen,” meaning “to tremble.” Today, when you tap a mechanical meter to increase its accuracy, you are applying dither, and modern dictionaries define dither as a highly nervous, confused, or agitated state. In minute quantities, dither successfully makes a digitization system a little more analog in the good sense of the word.
— Ken Pohlmann, Principles of Digital Audio”
Food report. Peas and corn and carrots, nuked. Fish fingers, shallow fried. Piece of lemon & lime cake.
buffy said:
Food report. Peas and corn and carrots, nuked. Fish fingers, shallow fried. Piece of lemon & lime cake.
And what libation will Madam be having with that?
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
Food report. Peas and corn and carrots, nuked. Fish fingers, shallow fried. Piece of lemon & lime cake.And what libation will Madam be having with that?
May we suggest something from our list of popular colas?
(Gosh, can’t we be catty?!)
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
Food report. Peas and corn and carrots, nuked. Fish fingers, shallow fried. Piece of lemon & lime cake.And what libation will Madam be having with that?
The usual large glass of cold Milo.
:)
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
Food report. Peas and corn and carrots, nuked. Fish fingers, shallow fried. Piece of lemon & lime cake.And what libation will Madam be having with that?
May we suggest something from our list of popular colas?
(Gosh, can’t we be catty?!)
I’ve never drunk a Cola drink of any sort. I don’t drink anything that fizzes.
buffy said:
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:And what libation will Madam be having with that?
May we suggest something from our list of popular colas?
(Gosh, can’t we be catty?!)
I’ve never drunk a Cola drink of any sort. I don’t drink anything that fizzes.
blinks
We’re having homemade burgers washed down with a glass of sparkling water.
Divine Angel said:
We’re having homemade burgers washed down with a glass of sparkling water.
And some pikelets and maple syrup for dessert?
Divine Angel said:
buffy said:
captain_spalding said:May we suggest something from our list of popular colas?
(Gosh, can’t we be catty?!)
I’ve never drunk a Cola drink of any sort. I don’t drink anything that fizzes.
blinks
Yeah it’s strange but I have a girl friend who never ever drinks hot drinks. Which I think is one of the markers of insanity.
buffy said:
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:And what libation will Madam be having with that?
May we suggest something from our list of popular colas?
(Gosh, can’t we be catty?!)
I’ve never drunk a Cola drink of any sort. I don’t drink anything that fizzes.
Great Caesar’s Ghost, woman, have you never heard of champagne?!
The fact that you wake up in the morning is worthy of champagne! Life good, bad, ugly and beautiful, is a reason for champagne!
I was in the shopping centre today.. it was fucking busy… people were attempting physical distancing but really only as a matter of token gestures.. it’s a good thing we have a fairly low rate of community transfer and if the numbers start climbing we can just stop testing people.
Arts said:
Divine Angel said:
buffy said:I’ve never drunk a Cola drink of any sort. I don’t drink anything that fizzes.
blinks
Yeah it’s strange but I have a girl friend who never ever drinks hot drinks. Which I think is one of the markers of insanity.
My siblings all drink fizzy drinks. I never have.
I never ever drink anything caffeinated.
I don’t drink anything green coloured.
JudgeMental said:
I don’t drink anything green coloured.
or blue. it’s unnatural.
Divine Angel said:
I never ever drink anything caffeinated.
momentarily dumbstruck
You mean that, when you wake up in the morning, that’s as good as you’re going to feel all morning?
captain_spalding said:
Divine Angel said:
I never ever drink anything caffeinated.
momentarily dumbstruck
You mean that, when you wake up in the morning, that’s as good as you’re going to feel all morning?
Oh no, I have my antidepressant and an Aldi-brand Berocca.
Caffeine triggers my PMDD, which makes me suicidal. Sooo I kinda prefer going without.
JudgeMental said:
JudgeMental said:
I don’t drink anything green coloured.
or blue. it’s unnatural.
You would not have made it to the first hurdle when me and a few mates tried to drink the colours of the flags of all nations.
That was memorable.
Or, at least i think it was.
Divine Angel said:
captain_spalding said:
Divine Angel said:
I never ever drink anything caffeinated.
momentarily dumbstruck
You mean that, when you wake up in the morning, that’s as good as you’re going to feel all morning?
Oh no, I have my antidepressant and an Aldi-brand Berocca.
Caffeine triggers my PMDD, which makes me suicidal. Sooo I kinda prefer going without.
Waking up in the morning makes me suicidal. That’s why i have caffeine.
captain_spalding said:
Divine Angel said:
captain_spalding said:momentarily dumbstruck
You mean that, when you wake up in the morning, that’s as good as you’re going to feel all morning?
Oh no, I have my antidepressant and an Aldi-brand Berocca.
Caffeine triggers my PMDD, which makes me suicidal. Sooo I kinda prefer going without.
Waking up in the morning makes me suicidal. That’s why i have caffeine.
And champagne.
Divine Angel said:
I never ever drink anything caffeinated.
Yes but not because you don’t like it.. I’m yet to see a person go postal on a hot drink injestion
JudgeMental said:
JudgeMental said:
I don’t drink anything green coloured.
or blue. it’s unnatural.
Yeah but you probably go nuts on red cordial.
Oh, I started watching Jeffrey Epstein on Netflix.
Hope he’s got his own special corner of hell to rot in.
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:
captain_spalding said:May we suggest something from our list of popular colas?
(Gosh, can’t we be catty?!)
I’ve never drunk a Cola drink of any sort. I don’t drink anything that fizzes.
Great Caesar’s Ghost, woman, have you never heard of champagne?!
The fact that you wake up in the morning is worthy of champagne! Life good, bad, ugly and beautiful, is a reason for champagne!
Good grief..now you want me to combine wine (which I don’t really like) and fizz (which I don’t like).
:)
Divine Angel said:
Oh, I started watching Jeffrey Epstein on Netflix.Hope he’s got his own special corner of hell to rot in.
It’s a great series. But apparently people on this forum think that it’s ok because. In some countries it’s not illegal to fuck with 14 yr olds.
Arts said:
Divine Angel said:
Oh, I started watching Jeffrey Epstein on Netflix.Hope he’s got his own special corner of hell to rot in.
It’s a great series. But apparently people on this forum think that it’s ok because. In some countries it’s not illegal to fuck with 14 yr olds.
well should we go over to those countries and blow up their culture
There have been some comments on one of the true crime pages that Epstein wasn’t even murdered but was whisked away and is hiding somewhere… also to shits me that his female piece of shit person has somehow managed to slip the net.
There have been some comments on one of the true crime pages that Epstein wasn’t even murdered but was whisked away and is hiding somewhere… also to shits me that his female piece of shit person has somehow managed to slip the net.
Peak Warming Man said:
JudgeMental said:
JudgeMental said:
I don’t drink anything green coloured.
or blue. it’s unnatural.
Yeah but you probably go nuts on red cordial.
Hey, i might use that as an excuse…
SCIENCE said:
Arts said:
Divine Angel said:
Oh, I started watching Jeffrey Epstein on Netflix.Hope he’s got his own special corner of hell to rot in.
It’s a great series. But apparently people on this forum think that it’s ok because. In some countries it’s not illegal to fuck with 14 yr olds.
well should we go over to those countries and blow up their culture
It’s not even cultural it’s a fucking social inclusion. And if the 14 yr olds don’t want o be fucked then one of the men gets to kill her. I can’t even believe that people here can even think it’s close to ok.
Arts said:
SCIENCE said:
Arts said:It’s a great series. But apparently people on this forum think that it’s ok because. In some countries it’s not illegal to fuck with 14 yr olds.
well should we go over to those countries and blow up their culture
It’s not even cultural it’s a fucking social inclusion. And if the 14 yr olds don’t want o be fucked then one of the men gets to kill her. I can’t even believe that people here can even think it’s close to ok.
Or even shrug shoulders with a “week it’s the way it is”. This is the sort of shit that should be changed, fought against and intruded upon… for fucks sake. It makes me mad.
Arts said:
SCIENCE said:
Arts said:It’s a great series. But apparently people on this forum think that it’s ok because. In some countries it’s not illegal to fuck with 14 yr olds.
well should we go over to those countries and blow up their culture
It’s not even cultural it’s a fucking social inclusion. And if the 14 yr olds don’t want o be fucked then one of the men gets to kill her. I can’t even believe that people here can even think it’s close to ok.
Some people here have all sorts of uncool beliefs.
Arts said:
Arts said:
SCIENCE said:well should we go over to those countries and blow up their culture
It’s not even cultural it’s a fucking social inclusion. And if the 14 yr olds don’t want o be fucked then one of the men gets to kill her. I can’t even believe that people here can even think it’s close to ok.
Or even shrug shoulders with a “week it’s the way it is”. This is the sort of shit that should be changed, fought against and intruded upon… for fucks sake. It makes me mad.
Divine Angel said:
Arts said:
SCIENCE said:well should we go over to those countries and blow up their culture
It’s not even cultural it’s a fucking social inclusion. And if the 14 yr olds don’t want o be fucked then one of the men gets to kill her. I can’t even believe that people here can even think it’s close to ok.
Some people here have all sorts of uncool beliefs.
Ok, I’m sorry. I shouldn’t judge.
Arts said:
Divine Angel said:
Arts said:It’s not even cultural it’s a fucking social inclusion. And if the 14 yr olds don’t want o be fucked then one of the men gets to kill her. I can’t even believe that people here can even think it’s close to ok.
Some people here have all sorts of uncool beliefs.
Ok, I’m sorry. I shouldn’t judge.
we guess the UN has something to say about it all, though it may also be considered a USSA/Eurocentric kind of thing so who knows
Arts said:
SCIENCE said:
Arts said:It’s a great series. But apparently people on this forum think that it’s ok because. In some countries it’s not illegal to fuck with 14 yr olds.
well should we go over to those countries and blow up their culture
It’s not even cultural it’s a fucking social inclusion. And if the 14 yr olds don’t want o be fucked then one of the men gets to kill her. I can’t even believe that people here can even think it’s close to ok.
Do they? I must have missed a discussion somewhere along the line.
Divine Angel said:
buffy said:
captain_spalding said:May we suggest something from our list of popular colas?
(Gosh, can’t we be catty?!)
I’ve never drunk a Cola drink of any sort. I don’t drink anything that fizzes.
blinks
News Flash! Buffy is weird!
Witty Rejoinder said:
Divine Angel said:
buffy said:I’ve never drunk a Cola drink of any sort. I don’t drink anything that fizzes.
blinks
News Flash! Buffy is weird!
Hello Mr Last Decade or more…
:)
Arts said:
Divine Angel said:
Arts said:It’s not even cultural it’s a fucking social inclusion. And if the 14 yr olds don’t want o be fucked then one of the men gets to kill her. I can’t even believe that people here can even think it’s close to ok.
Some people here have all sorts of uncool beliefs.
Ok, I’m sorry. I shouldn’t judge.
That’s my job.
Arts said:
SCIENCE said:
Arts said:It’s a great series. But apparently people on this forum think that it’s ok because. In some countries it’s not illegal to fuck with 14 yr olds.
well should we go over to those countries and blow up their culture
It’s not even cultural it’s a fucking social inclusion. And if the 14 yr olds don’t want o be fucked then one of the men gets to kill her. I can’t even believe that people here can even think it’s close to ok.
‘People here’ where?
Witty Rejoinder said:
Arts said:
SCIENCE said:well should we go over to those countries and blow up their culture
It’s not even cultural it’s a fucking social inclusion. And if the 14 yr olds don’t want o be fucked then one of the men gets to kill her. I can’t even believe that people here can even think it’s close to ok.
‘People here’ where?
As in if you mean the HF i must have missed the discussion.
Arts said:
Divine Angel said:
Arts said:It’s not even cultural it’s a fucking social inclusion. And if the 14 yr olds don’t want o be fucked then one of the men gets to kill her. I can’t even believe that people here can even think it’s close to ok.
Some people here have all sorts of uncool beliefs.
Ok, I’m sorry. I shouldn’t judge.
Why on earth not??
how chips landed
transition said:
how chips landed
Sounds like a children’s book.
transition said:
howchips landed
hot
nice too, last two lots potatoes made good chips
Peak Warming Man said:
transition said:
how chips landedSounds like a children’s book.
chuckle
I’m off to watch TV. The early peoples of the Americas (NITV), then Operation Buffalo (ABC) and the Mao’s Last Dancer (ABC)
kryten said:
I’m off to watch TV. The early peoples of the Americas (NITV), then Operation Buffalo (ABC) and the Mao’s Last Dancer (ABC)
What’s your wife going to do?
:)
Arts said:
Divine Angel said:
Oh, I started watching Jeffrey Epstein on Netflix.Hope he’s got his own special corner of hell to rot in.
It’s a great series. But apparently people on this forum think that it’s ok because. In some countries it’s not illegal to fuck with 14 yr olds.
That’s a bit of a misunderstanding.
The charges he had pleaded guilty to and served time for were related to girls aged 17 at the time. Part of a plea deal and all that. They were still minors under Florida law, which sets the age of consent at 18. So those charges would probably not have held up in jurisdictions where the minimum age is 16. It is a rather convoluted legal process they have over there that charges against 14-16 year olds were dropped as part of the plea deal, He only ended up pleading guilty to the charges involving the 17 year old. He also pleased guilty to conspiracy to solicit prostitutes – again a charge which does not apply in other jurisdictions where prostitution is legal. I was commenting on the absurdity of their whole legal system, where he pleads guilty to lesser offences which would not be offences in many other places, and the real offences get dropped as part of plea deal. They had to jump through some extraordinary legal hoops to revisit this and charge him again.
Arts said:
Divine Angel said:
buffy said:I’ve never drunk a Cola drink of any sort. I don’t drink anything that fizzes.
blinks
Yeah it’s strange but I have a girl friend who never ever drinks hot drinks. Which I think is one of the markers of insanity.
Slightly late to the party, but I never drink hot drinks.
Neophyte said:
Arts said:
Divine Angel said:blinks
Yeah it’s strange but I have a girl friend who never ever drinks hot drinks. Which I think is one of the markers of insanity.
Slightly late to the party, but I never drink hot drinks.
How have you people made it this far?
Neophyte said:
Arts said:
Divine Angel said:blinks
Yeah it’s strange but I have a girl friend who never ever drinks hot drinks. Which I think is one of the markers of insanity.
Slightly late to the party, but I never drink hot drinks.
You could almost state that Arts’s theory is close to proven.
Just out of curiosity, how old were any of you when you first began drinking tea or coffee?
I must have been busy that day.
Neophyte said:
Just out of curiosity, how old were any of you when you first began drinking tea or coffee?I must have been busy that day.
that information is lost in the midst of time.
Neophyte said:
Just out of curiosity, how old were any of you when you first began drinking tea or coffee?I must have been busy that day.
Umm..eight?
captain_spalding said:
Neophyte said:
Just out of curiosity, how old were any of you when you first began drinking tea or coffee?I must have been busy that day.
Umm..eight?
Yeah, about then.
JudgeMental said:
Neophyte said:
Just out of curiosity, how old were any of you when you first began drinking tea or coffee?I must have been busy that day.
that information is lost in the midst of time.
my license for coffee started when maybe eleven, as got to stay up later, privileges of age, and staying sweet with M&D by offering to make them a coffee of course, and, well, while I was making theirs it wouldn’t have been right not to make myself one
fortunate thing they weren’t on meth, just coffee
Just don’t ask me about absinthe.
Neophyte said:
Just out of curiosity, how old were any of you when you first began drinking tea or coffee?I must have been busy that day.
I was drinking tea in primary school.
Neophyte said:
Just out of curiosity, how old were any of you when you first began drinking tea or coffee?I must have been busy that day.
I drank the cold dregs from my mum’s coffee, but I never got the taste for it nor tea. I do drink herbal and fruit teas though. Current favourite: Aldi’s lemon and ginger tea.
I also drink hot Milo.
Neophyte said:
Just out of curiosity, how old were any of you when you first began drinking tea or coffee?I must have been busy that day.
Kids can start on hot milo and/or babycinos at around 5yo way before they are allowed caffeine.
Peak Warming Man said:
Neophyte said:
Just out of curiosity, how old were any of you when you first began drinking tea or coffee?I must have been busy that day.
I was drinking tea in primary school.
We used to just get a little bottle of milk.
captain_spalding said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Neophyte said:
Just out of curiosity, how old were any of you when you first began drinking tea or coffee?I must have been busy that day.
I was drinking tea in primary school.
We used to just get a little bottle of milk.
Do hot drinks include school milk left out in the sun?
Only lasted one of them…never drunk plain milk since.
Now here’s a thing, Joanna Lamond Lumley was born on 1 May 1946 in Srinagar, Jammu and Kashmir.
I’m guessing it was a long labour on a train.
Peak Warming Man said:
Now here’s a thing, Joanna Lamond Lumley was born on 1 May 1946 in Srinagar, Jammu and Kashmir.
I’m guessing it was a long labour on a train.
‘Jammu and Kashmir’ is the name of the ‘union territory’. Srinigar is the largest city in the territory.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Neophyte said:
Just out of curiosity, how old were any of you when you first began drinking tea or coffee?I must have been busy that day.
Kids can start on hot milo and/or babycinos at around 5yo way before they are allowed caffeine.
Yes, this is how it started for me. My parents of course drank coffee. The children would get a warm Milo at the same time. After a while the Milo was replaced with tea, and then that was replaced with coffee. Somewhere in my mid to late teens I was drinking coffee daily.
party_pants said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Neophyte said:
Just out of curiosity, how old were any of you when you first began drinking tea or coffee?I must have been busy that day.
Kids can start on hot milo and/or babycinos at around 5yo way before they are allowed caffeine.
Yes, this is how it started for me. My parents of course drank coffee. The children would get a warm Milo at the same time. After a while the Milo was replaced with tea, and then that was replaced with coffee. Somewhere in my mid to late teens I was drinking coffee daily.
warm milo, the gateway drug.
Hey Sibeen, you lurking?
Rule 303 said:
Hey Sibeen, you lurking?
Am now.
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
Hey Sibeen, you lurking?
Am now.
I passed your message on to Tony. Apparently he and Dario are still in touch, because he already knew.
Also, the 2019 Bleasdale Wild Fig is out and still selling at $20. In case you don’t know, the 2018 picked up the Jimmy Watson award last year. The vintage will sell out like….
You’re welcome.
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
Hey Sibeen, you lurking?
Am now.
I passed your message on to Tony. Apparently he and Dario are still in touch, because he already knew.
Also, the 2019 Bleasdale Wild Fig is out and still selling at $20. In case you don’t know, the 2018 picked up the Jimmy Watson award last year. The vintage will sell out like….
You’re welcome.
Thank you :)
Sibeen, I’ve put my hand up for a dozen of the wild Fig, so if you just want a few, let me know.
Rule 303 said:
Sibeen, I’ve put my hand up for a dozen of the wild Fig, so if you just want a few, let me know.
I’ll take a pass, but thanks for the offer.
I have never liked a wine that has included Grenache. IMHO it should be declared a noxious weed and be banned, root and stock, from this hallowed land we live on.
:)
Rule 303 said:
Sibeen, I’ve put my hand up for a dozen of the wild Fig, so if you just want a few, let me know.
I’ll take a pass, but thanks for the offer.
I have never liked a wine that has included Grenache. IMHO it should be declared a noxious weed and be banned, root and stock, from this hallowed land we live on.
:)
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
Sibeen, I’ve put my hand up for a dozen of the wild Fig, so if you just want a few, let me know.
I’ll take a pass, but thanks for the offer.
I have never liked a wine that has included Grenache. IMHO it should be declared a noxious weed and be banned, root and stock, from this hallowed land we live on.
:)
Pffft.
GSM is the new black. Have you tried the Henschke ‘Henry’s Seven’?
Rule 303 said:
Sibeen, I’ve put my hand up for a dozen of the wild Fig, so if you just want a few, let me know.
That’s awfully generous of you, Rule.
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
Sibeen, I’ve put my hand up for a dozen of the wild Fig, so if you just want a few, let me know.
I’ll take a pass, but thanks for the offer.
I have never liked a wine that has included Grenache. IMHO it should be declared a noxious weed and be banned, root and stock, from this hallowed land we live on.
:)
Pffft.
GSM is the new black. Have you tried the Henschke ‘Henry’s Seven’?
GSM was the new black 25 years ago. It was shit then and it’ll be crap now.
I’ve already disavowed hot beverages…should I add I don’t drink alcohol as well?
btm said:
Rule 303 said:
Sibeen, I’ve put my hand up for a dozen of the wild Fig, so if you just want a few, let me know.
That’s awfully generous of you, Rule.
IKR?
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:I’ll take a pass, but thanks for the offer.
I have never liked a wine that has included Grenache. IMHO it should be declared a noxious weed and be banned, root and stock, from this hallowed land we live on.
:)
Pffft.
GSM is the new black. Have you tried the Henschke ‘Henry’s Seven’?
GSM was the new black 25 years ago. It was shit then and it’ll be crap now.
Aight.
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:Pffft.
GSM is the new black. Have you tried the Henschke ‘Henry’s Seven’?
GSM was the new black 25 years ago. It was shit then and it’ll be crap now.
Aight.
Might give this a go…

Someone should be buying a lottery ticket
https://i.imgur.com/9QFmvrR.mp4
Everyone going for a ride
https://i.imgur.com/ds7GTTN.mp4
Good morning Holidayers. PResently 3 degrees and very foggy. Our forecast for today is for showers and 12 degrees. I have resurrected the woodheater coals.
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. PResently 3 degrees and very foggy. Our forecast for today is for showers and 12 degrees. I have resurrected the woodheater coals.
Tamb said:
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. PResently 3 degrees and very foggy. Our forecast for today is for showers and 12 degrees. I have resurrected the woodheater coals.
Morning all.
16° → 23 1/8 th cloud.
Beef stew on slow cook. Washing machine running. Nothing to report.
Morning Tamb. 7° and rain here, with a stiff breeze whistling to the east. Slow cooker sounds like a good idea. Might cook up some beans.
Rule 303 said:
Tamb said:
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. PResently 3 degrees and very foggy. Our forecast for today is for showers and 12 degrees. I have resurrected the woodheater coals.
Morning all.
16° → 23 1/8 th cloud.
Beef stew on slow cook. Washing machine running. Nothing to report.Morning Tamb. 7° and rain here, with a stiff breeze whistling to the east. Slow cooker sounds like a good idea. Might cook up some beans.
Sunny top of 21 here, forecast for lows of 6 & 7 later in the week though.
Breakfast today is an scrambled egg and bacon sandwich, washed down with juice of a popular citrus fruit.
Have been to the liberry to pick up my reservation: Acid for the Children by Flea. He is bassist for band Red Hot Chili Peppers. I read Anthony Kiedis’ autobiography years ago and enjoyed it, have heard good reviews about this one.
Today I am going back to my original novel in order to get that polished up, ready for publication.
so there is a twitter account that is called @suspendthepres and it posts exactly the same tweets as DT does.. it has been suspended twice. I don’t know how long this experiment has been running for, but there is allegedly a similar one on Facebook and it gets the suspensions too… meanwhile DT keeps posting with impunity.
This is the latest DT tweet that still stands but got the other twitter handle suspended. (And before anyone asks, yes you can use the same name, or any other name and use an account to parody someone, twitter is full of parody handles (which is why the real/authenticated people get a little blue tick next to their name).

Good Morning everybody.
17.0°C, 81% RH, gusty light to moderate breezes and clear. BoM reckons we’ll have a maximum of 23°C and that there’s no chance of rain.
I have been given notice that I must volunteer to clean up and half-empty the worm farm. After
c…o…f…f…e…e…
of course.
;)
Michael V said:
Good Morning everybody.17.0°C, 81% RH, gusty light to moderate breezes and clear. BoM reckons we’ll have a maximum of 23°C and that there’s no chance of rain.
I have been given notice that I must volunteer to clean up and half-empty the worm farm. After
c…o…f…f…e…e…
of course.
;)
Even as we speak: c…o…f…f…e…e…
ok fine.. it’s cold and rainy here today. top of 21
Arts said:
ok fine.. it’s cold and rainy here today. top of 21
funnily enough it is warmer today than the last couple of days here. not raining yet.
Arts said:
ok fine.. it’s cold and rainy here today. top of 21
Odd. Fine and rainy at the same time. How can that happen?
Michael V said:
Arts said:
ok fine.. it’s cold and rainy here today. top of 21
Odd. Fine and rainy at the same time. How can that happen?
OK, caught up. We enjoyed watching Mao’s Last Dancer last night. I was going to come in and report, but the interwebs were off/on/off/on. So I gave up.
Another working week, le sigh
Hello
Tamb said:
Michael V said:
Arts said:
ok fine.. it’s cold and rainy here today. top of 21
Odd. Fine and rainy at the same time. How can that happen?
Fine rain of course.
Ah!
Take 2…….and action
Morning punters and correctors, it’s the shortest day today I believe.
Peak Warming Man said:
Take 2…….and actionMorning punters and correctors, it’s the shortest day today I believe.
Longest night.
Peak Warming Man said:
Take 2…….and actionMorning punters and correctors, it’s the shortest day today I believe.
Damn, and I slept in.
I believe the correct PC term is light challenged.
Arts said:
I believe the correct PC term is light challenged.
that’s what short people would say.
JudgeMental said:
Arts said:
I believe the correct PC term is light challenged.
that’s what short people would say.
isn’t everyone short to you?
Arts said:
I believe the correct PC term is light challenged.
“Differently lit” is more appropriate.
Arts said:
JudgeMental said:
Arts said:
I believe the correct PC term is light challenged.
that’s what short people would say.
isn’t everyone short to you?
on average, yes.
JudgeMental said:
Arts said:
JudgeMental said:that’s what short people would say.
isn’t everyone short to you?
on average, yes.
Speedy said:
Arts said:
I believe the correct PC term is light challenged.
“Differently lit” is more appropriate.
Individually illuminated.
Belated pictures of my weather report this morning. It’s quite pretty, if cold and very damp. Everything on the verandah is wet. And water is dripping off all the trees and shrubs and, well, everything. These photos are from the front door.
And Bruna found me another fungus to photograph. She put her foot beside it to show how small and delicate it is.
Gosh, that army is at it today. House-rattling explosions every second or two for the last half hour. Before that it’s been the same thing every few minutes since 6:30 am.
The were at it on and off yesterday from 6:30 am until around 9 pm.

Michael V said:
Gosh, that army is at it today. House-rattling explosions every second or two for the last half hour. Before that it’s been the same thing every few minutes since 6:30 am.The were at it on and off yesterday from 6:30 am until around 9 pm.
Exercise at Tin Can Bay?
Arts said:
You know its not an actual moon just a wheel of cheese
Arts said:
:)
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
Gosh, that army is at it today. House-rattling explosions every second or two for the last half hour. Before that it’s been the same thing every few minutes since 6:30 am.The were at it on and off yesterday from 6:30 am until around 9 pm.
Exercise at Tin Can Bay?
Yes.
For lunch I’m thinking chicken noodles.
Over.
done breakfast
twiddles thumbs
Peak Warming Man said:
For lunch I’m thinking chicken noodles.
Over.
Ham and green tomato relish in fresh white bread sammich. Large cold Milo.
I considered pancakes, but I haven’t got any eggs. Perhaps I’ll drive out the road again later. Last week there weren’t any eggs at the roadside stall.
Those two minute noodles were good, the second one was really nice.
OK…so I read right through this…
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-22/history-of-yoga-in-west-1800s-gurus-to-adriene-mishler/12356558
What have they done with Swami Sarasvati? Why is she not mentioned in the bit about Australia? I’ve got her book here on my shelf. She had a TV series here in Australia. She doesn’t rate a mention in that piece. I thought she was fairly well known at the time.
https://www.theage.com.au/national/it-s-surreal-the-swami-is-back-20030915-gdwcch.html
buffy said:
OK…so I read right through this…https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-22/history-of-yoga-in-west-1800s-gurus-to-adriene-mishler/12356558
What have they done with Swami Sarasvati? Why is she not mentioned in the bit about Australia? I’ve got her book here on my shelf. She had a TV series here in Australia. She doesn’t rate a mention in that piece. I thought she was fairly well known at the time.
https://www.theage.com.au/national/it-s-surreal-the-swami-is-back-20030915-gdwcch.html
oh I’m glad they mentioned Bikram.
Arts said:
buffy said:
OK…so I read right through this…https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-22/history-of-yoga-in-west-1800s-gurus-to-adriene-mishler/12356558
What have they done with Swami Sarasvati? Why is she not mentioned in the bit about Australia? I’ve got her book here on my shelf. She had a TV series here in Australia. She doesn’t rate a mention in that piece. I thought she was fairly well known at the time.
https://www.theage.com.au/national/it-s-surreal-the-swami-is-back-20030915-gdwcch.html
oh I’m glad they mentioned Bikram.
I watched Hurricane last night. Quite interesting.
Arts said:
buffy said:
OK…so I read right through this…https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-22/history-of-yoga-in-west-1800s-gurus-to-adriene-mishler/12356558
What have they done with Swami Sarasvati? Why is she not mentioned in the bit about Australia? I’ve got her book here on my shelf. She had a TV series here in Australia. She doesn’t rate a mention in that piece. I thought she was fairly well known at the time.
https://www.theage.com.au/national/it-s-surreal-the-swami-is-back-20030915-gdwcch.html
oh I’m glad they mentioned Bikram.
That name wasn’t familiar to me. But I suppose I stopped thinking about yoga in the 1970s.
Tamb said:
Arts said:
buffy said:
OK…so I read right through this…https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-22/history-of-yoga-in-west-1800s-gurus-to-adriene-mishler/12356558
What have they done with Swami Sarasvati? Why is she not mentioned in the bit about Australia? I’ve got her book here on my shelf. She had a TV series here in Australia. She doesn’t rate a mention in that piece. I thought she was fairly well known at the time.
https://www.theage.com.au/national/it-s-surreal-the-swami-is-back-20030915-gdwcch.html
oh I’m glad they mentioned Bikram.
I watched Hurricane last night. Quite interesting.
the Ruben Carter thing?

It’s a shame Tim Blair is now behind a paywall, I enjoyed his body of work from time to time.
buffy said:
Arts said:
buffy said:
OK…so I read right through this…https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-22/history-of-yoga-in-west-1800s-gurus-to-adriene-mishler/12356558
What have they done with Swami Sarasvati? Why is she not mentioned in the bit about Australia? I’ve got her book here on my shelf. She had a TV series here in Australia. She doesn’t rate a mention in that piece. I thought she was fairly well known at the time.
https://www.theage.com.au/national/it-s-surreal-the-swami-is-back-20030915-gdwcch.html
oh I’m glad they mentioned Bikram.
That name wasn’t familiar to me. But I suppose I stopped thinking about yoga in the 1970s.
I only know it because of the charges laid against him… there was a doco on Netflix about it and one of the podcasts I listen to covered it.. so, of course, I went down that rabbit hole…

Arts said:
Well quite.
Arts said:
shit!
I think it would be a better look if i went to the shed and procrastinated.
I just sent this to my supervisor..

I’m awaiting approval.
Arts said:
Tamb said:
Arts said:oh I’m glad they mentioned Bikram.
I watched Hurricane last night. Quite interesting.
the Ruben Carter thing?
JudgeMental said:
Arts said:
shit!
Arts said:
I just sent this to my supervisor..
I’m awaiting approval.
Heh. In an essay, I used the word “shit” but quoted the source. I hoped the tutor got a giggle out of it.
Arts said:
I just sent this to my supervisor..
I’m awaiting approval.
Yeah but no
Tamb said:
Arts said:
Tamb said:I watched Hurricane last night. Quite interesting.
the Ruben Carter thing?
No it was a doco about a hurricane which wrecked the Caribbean, Cuba & some of southern USA.
oh
Arts said:
I just sent this to my supervisor..
I’m awaiting approval.
It might have to go to the Ethics Committee first…
Arts said:
Tamb said:
Arts said:the Ruben Carter thing?
No it was a doco about a hurricane which wrecked the Caribbean, Cuba & some of southern USA.oh
sue is back in court today Arts.
Tamb said:
Arts said:
Tamb said:No it was a doco about a hurricane which wrecked the Caribbean, Cuba & some of southern USA.
oh
I was so caught up in it that I can’t remember the hurricane’s name.
wait. was it Katrina?
sarahs mum said:
sue is back in court today Arts.
oh.. on appeal?
Arts said:
sarahs mum said:
sue is back in court today Arts.oh.. on appeal?
We did get past appealing for an appeal, didn’t we?
Arts said:
Tamb said:
Arts said:oh
I was so caught up in it that I can’t remember the hurricane’s name.wait. was it Katrina?
no looks like Dorian.
Arts said:
Tamb said:
Arts said:oh
I was so caught up in it that I can’t remember the hurricane’s name.wait. was it Katrina?
party_pants said:
Arts said:
I just sent this to my supervisor..
I’m awaiting approval.
It might have to go to the Ethics Committee first…
bloody ethnics!
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:
sarahs mum said:
sue is back in court today Arts.oh.. on appeal?
We did get past appealing for an appeal, didn’t we?
hmmm. I thought there was new and compelling evidence.. so she could open up a new line… I could be wrong.. do you have any more info on it?
party_pants said:
Arts said:
I just sent this to my supervisor..
I’m awaiting approval.
It might have to go to the Ethics Committee first…
I have ethics approval now… so I can say what I like…
Arts said:
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:oh.. on appeal?
We did get past appealing for an appeal, didn’t we?
hmmm. I thought there was new and compelling evidence.. so she could open up a new line… I could be wrong.. do you have any more info on it?
There will be some press this afternoon I reckon. I just saw her get wheeled past on the TV news.
Tamb said:
Arts said:
Tamb said:I was so caught up in it that I can’t remember the hurricane’s name.
wait. was it Katrina?
I don’t think so unless the US renamed it. It was a Spanish name I think.
ok, well as long as it was enjoyable to watch… though it was an odd segue.
Arts said:
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
:)
Good one!
:)
Tamb said:
JudgeMental said:
Arts said:
shit!
That’s another word which can receive similar treatment.
https://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs/hack/science-behind-why-swearing-feels-good/12375196
Arts said:
Tamb said:
Arts said:wait. was it Katrina?
I don’t think so unless the US renamed it. It was a Spanish name I think.ok, well as long as it was enjoyable to watch… though it was an odd segue.
Tamb said:
Arts said:
Tamb said:I watched Hurricane last night. Quite interesting.
the Ruben Carter thing?
No it was a doco about a hurricane which wrecked the Caribbean, Cuba & some of southern USA.
Which hurricane?
Forecast for the rest of Monday
Summary Max 13 Rain. Becoming windy. Possible rainfall: 30 to 50 mm Chance of any rain: 100%
Hobart area
Cloudy. Very high (near 100%) chance of rain. Light winds becoming southeasterly 30 to 45 km/h in the middle of the day.
Tuesday 23 June
Summary Min 10 Max 14 Rain. Wind easing. Possible rainfall: 8 to 25 mm Chance of any rain: 95%
Hobart area
Cloudy. Very high (95%) chance of rain. Winds southeasterly 30 to 45 km/h tending south to southeasterl
Michael V said:
Tamb said:
Arts said:the Ruben Carter thing?
No it was a doco about a hurricane which wrecked the Caribbean, Cuba & some of southern USA.Which hurricane?
Not rueben Carter.
Not Katrina.
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:
sarahs mum said:We did get past appealing for an appeal, didn’t we?
hmmm. I thought there was new and compelling evidence.. so she could open up a new line… I could be wrong.. do you have any more info on it?
There will be some press this afternoon I reckon. I just saw her get wheeled past on the TV news.
coolcoolcoolcool cool. I will keep an eye on the news
Michael V said:
Tamb said:
Arts said:the Ruben Carter thing?
No it was a doco about a hurricane which wrecked the Caribbean, Cuba & some of southern USA.Which hurricane?
Tamb said:
Michael V said:
Tamb said:No it was a doco about a hurricane which wrecked the Caribbean, Cuba & some of southern USA.
Which hurricane?
Can’t remember. Maybe short Spanish name. It started East of Santo Domingo & was named in that region.
What was the name of the documentary?
Michael V said:
Tamb said:
Michael V said:Which hurricane?
Can’t remember. Maybe short Spanish name. It started East of Santo Domingo & was named in that region.What was the name of the documentary?
The Liberal MP Rowan Ramsey has proposed maintaining jobseeker at a level higher than $40 a day as an incentive for recipients to take up the cashless debit card.
Ramsey’s call comes as the Coalition debates whether the coronavirus supplement, doubling jobseeker to $1,100 a fortnight, should continue past September, with Llew O’Brien warning he will argue for it to continue if unemployment persists in his electorate of Wide Bay.
Ramsey says the debate about jobseeker (formerly Newstart) “is not going away” and he is “on record previously that Newstart is pretty low”.
“I think there are other reforms we can make in the welfare sector that can make a difference – a lot of us are discussing ideas,” he said, citing simplification of the welfare system and amalgamation of payments.
‘Time to click reset’: coronavirus offers chance to end Australia’s welfare wars
Read more
“I think there should be an incentive to get onto the cashless debit card.”
Asked if this incentive could include a higher rate of jobseeker for those who signed up to the card, Ramsey confirmed this was “under discussion” and that “the old Newstart rate is pretty tough to get ready for work, on that allowance”.
more..
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jun/12/coalition-mps-push-to-keep-jobkeeper-higher-than-40-a-day-after-september
sarahs mum said:
The Liberal MP Rowan Ramsey has proposed maintaining jobseeker at a level higher than $40 a day as an incentive for recipients to take up the cashless debit card.Ramsey’s call comes as the Coalition debates whether the coronavirus supplement, doubling jobseeker to $1,100 a fortnight, should continue past September, with Llew O’Brien warning he will argue for it to continue if unemployment persists in his electorate of Wide Bay.
Ramsey says the debate about jobseeker (formerly Newstart) “is not going away” and he is “on record previously that Newstart is pretty low”.
“I think there are other reforms we can make in the welfare sector that can make a difference – a lot of us are discussing ideas,” he said, citing simplification of the welfare system and amalgamation of payments.
‘Time to click reset’: coronavirus offers chance to end Australia’s welfare wars
Read more“I think there should be an incentive to get onto the cashless debit card.”
Asked if this incentive could include a higher rate of jobseeker for those who signed up to the card, Ramsey confirmed this was “under discussion” and that “the old Newstart rate is pretty tough to get ready for work, on that allowance”.
more..
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jun/12/coalition-mps-push-to-keep-jobkeeper-higher-than-40-a-day-after-september
Senator Rachel Siewert
· 2 hrs ·
Data released yesterday showed that only 12% of #CashlessDebitCard opt out applications have been processed; more than a third of them were rejected.
It’s been almost 12 months since this process started. It’s not good enough.

Jodie McNally— Mine was rejected after 9 months. I got a “courtesy call” on the 22nd April informing me of the decision. I got the e-mail telling me their reasons on the 24th (but dated the 14th). I then had a stress-induced heart attack at the age of 33 on the 30th April.
I was told that in the review they can only look at evidence regarding events before their decision of the 14th April. This means that to just tell them I had a heart attack as a result of their decision, I would have to submit an entirely new exit application from scratch. I’ve had to instead start another well-being exemption request just to be able to submit evidence of it.
I was only given 14 days to submit my evidence. I asked if i could get an extension if i was unable to see a doctor within that time, and was told “no, it’s a firm time frame to ensure a speedy turnaround”. So they can take 9 months to process my application, but i can’t get a few extra days! I bet they take longer than 14 days this time around, too!
Arts said:
I just sent this to my supervisor..
I’m awaiting approval.
Also need ‘Dealy’ for technological paraphernalia that no reasonable person would expect you to know the name of.
I thought I was having a rather unproductive day. But apparently it’s what is the go around here today…at least I have written a letter, posted it, picked Warrigal greens and pulled carrots and prepared them for tea tonight. And read the news. This is what Long has done (apart from eating breakfast)…
Oh, and I made some chocolate custard.
Rule 303 said:
Arts said:
I just sent this to my supervisor..
I’m awaiting approval.
Also need ‘Dealy’ for technological paraphernalia that no reasonable person would expect you to know the name of.
And ‘…because reasons.’ would be handy for situations where giving reasons would be unnecessarily burdensome and time wasting because the conclusion is not under question.
Rule 303 said:
Rule 303 said:
Arts said:
I just sent this to my supervisor..
I’m awaiting approval.
Also need ‘Dealy’ for technological paraphernalia that no reasonable person would expect you to know the name of.
And ‘…because reasons.’ would be handy for situations where giving reasons would be unnecessarily burdensome and time wasting because the conclusion is not under question.
all valid. when will the journal editors get on board?
Mad Fucking Witches
6 mins ·
He retired on doctor’s orders, witches.
Or so he said.
Yeah … nah.
Barely a month after “retiring” in disgrace after we cost his employer 24 million dollars, he’s back on air on #NewsCorpse’s Sky News. Four nights a week, too: hardly a commitment a sick man forced to retire from his contracted radio career would ever likely contemplate:
“Jones had already co-anchored a program on Sky two nights a week, but the decision to expand his role adds to an already cluttered roster of conservative pundits on Sky. The network also hosts News Corp columnists Andrew Bolt and Chris Kenny, former Tony Abbott adviser Peta Credlin, and a slew of lesser-known rightwing commentators including the editor of the Australian edition of Spectator magazine, Rowan Dean. ‘It’s a privilege to be asked to work with such a strong and committed team. I am sure that through the engagement with my viewing audience, we will be able to make a difference’ Jones said in a statement. ‘There are real issues facing Australians today. We will be addressing them.’ Jones, 79, has suffered numerous health issues of late – he was forced off the air in late 2018 due to painful back spasms – and cited doctor’s orders when he announced his decision to quit radio station 2GB in May.”
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/jun/21/retired-radio-shock-jock-alan-jones-to-host-new-show-on-sky-news
sarahs mum said:
Mad Fucking Witches
6 mins ·He retired on doctor’s orders, witches.
Or so he said.
Yeah … nah.
Barely a month after “retiring” in disgrace after we cost his employer 24 million dollars, he’s back on air on #NewsCorpse’s Sky News. Four nights a week, too: hardly a commitment a sick man forced to retire from his contracted radio career would ever likely contemplate:
“Jones had already co-anchored a program on Sky two nights a week, but the decision to expand his role adds to an already cluttered roster of conservative pundits on Sky. The network also hosts News Corp columnists Andrew Bolt and Chris Kenny, former Tony Abbott adviser Peta Credlin, and a slew of lesser-known rightwing commentators including the editor of the Australian edition of Spectator magazine, Rowan Dean. ‘It’s a privilege to be asked to work with such a strong and committed team. I am sure that through the engagement with my viewing audience, we will be able to make a difference’ Jones said in a statement. ‘There are real issues facing Australians today. We will be addressing them.’ Jones, 79, has suffered numerous health issues of late – he was forced off the air in late 2018 due to painful back spasms – and cited doctor’s orders when he announced his decision to quit radio station 2GB in May.”https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/jun/21/retired-radio-shock-jock-alan-jones-to-host-new-show-on-sky-news
and bone spurs, couldn’t fight ‘nam because of bone spurs
SCIENCE said:
sarahs mum said:
Mad Fucking Witches
6 mins ·He retired on doctor’s orders, witches.
Or so he said.
Yeah … nah.
Barely a month after “retiring” in disgrace after we cost his employer 24 million dollars, he’s back on air on #NewsCorpse’s Sky News. Four nights a week, too: hardly a commitment a sick man forced to retire from his contracted radio career would ever likely contemplate:
“Jones had already co-anchored a program on Sky two nights a week, but the decision to expand his role adds to an already cluttered roster of conservative pundits on Sky. The network also hosts News Corp columnists Andrew Bolt and Chris Kenny, former Tony Abbott adviser Peta Credlin, and a slew of lesser-known rightwing commentators including the editor of the Australian edition of Spectator magazine, Rowan Dean. ‘It’s a privilege to be asked to work with such a strong and committed team. I am sure that through the engagement with my viewing audience, we will be able to make a difference’ Jones said in a statement. ‘There are real issues facing Australians today. We will be addressing them.’ Jones, 79, has suffered numerous health issues of late – he was forced off the air in late 2018 due to painful back spasms – and cited doctor’s orders when he announced his decision to quit radio station 2GB in May.”https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/jun/21/retired-radio-shock-jock-alan-jones-to-host-new-show-on-sky-news
and bone spurs, couldn’t fight ‘nam because of bone spurs
Trump and alan jones?
Finally found the hurricane doco. It was Lucy. Hurricane – 21 June 2020 – 21/6/2020 – June 21 – Sunday – SBS
This film is the story of the birth, life, and death of one storm – Lucy. Beginning its tumultuous journey as an ominous sandstorm in Senegal, heading west across the Atlantic to toss enormous ships and waves topsyturvy, then crashing into the jungles of the Caribbean, we live inside this hurricane, and it is truly awesome, scary and incredible.
Tamb said:
Finally found the hurricane doco. It was Lucy. Hurricane – 21 June 2020 – 21/6/2020 – June 21 – Sunday – SBSThis film is the story of the birth, life, and death of one storm – Lucy. Beginning its tumultuous journey as an ominous sandstorm in Senegal, heading west across the Atlantic to toss enormous ships and waves topsyturvy, then crashing into the jungles of the Caribbean, we live inside this hurricane, and it is truly awesome, scary and incredible.
Interestingly, Lucy has never been used as an Atlantic hurricane name.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTAqxIhsyHE
https://en.unifrance.org/movie/36201/hurricane
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_historical_tropical_cyclone_names
You wish you were here.
Tamb said:
Finally found the hurricane doco. It was Lucy. Hurricane – 21 June 2020 – 21/6/2020 – June 21 – Sunday – SBSThis film is the story of the birth, life, and death of one storm – Lucy. Beginning its tumultuous journey as an ominous sandstorm in Senegal, heading west across the Atlantic to toss enormous ships and waves topsyturvy, then crashing into the jungles of the Caribbean, we live inside this hurricane, and it is truly awesome, scary and incredible.
Very good doco, really shows what being under the influence of a strong hurricane is like.
sarahs mum said:
SCIENCE said:
sarahs mum said:
Mad Fucking Witches
6 mins ·He retired on doctor’s orders, witches.
Or so he said.
Yeah … nah.
Barely a month after “retiring” in disgrace after we cost his employer 24 million dollars, he’s back on air on #NewsCorpse’s Sky News. Four nights a week, too: hardly a commitment a sick man forced to retire from his contracted radio career would ever likely contemplate:
“Jones had already co-anchored a program on Sky two nights a week, but the decision to expand his role adds to an already cluttered roster of conservative pundits on Sky. The network also hosts News Corp columnists Andrew Bolt and Chris Kenny, former Tony Abbott adviser Peta Credlin, and a slew of lesser-known rightwing commentators including the editor of the Australian edition of Spectator magazine, Rowan Dean. ‘It’s a privilege to be asked to work with such a strong and committed team. I am sure that through the engagement with my viewing audience, we will be able to make a difference’ Jones said in a statement. ‘There are real issues facing Australians today. We will be addressing them.’ Jones, 79, has suffered numerous health issues of late – he was forced off the air in late 2018 due to painful back spasms – and cited doctor’s orders when he announced his decision to quit radio station 2GB in May.”https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/jun/21/retired-radio-shock-jock-alan-jones-to-host-new-show-on-sky-news
and bone spurs, couldn’t fight ‘nam because of bone spurs
Trump and alan jones?
just commenting on how, legitimate medical problems aside and without meaning to throw shame on those*, “HEALTH ISSUE” is such a cop out in terms of justifying any course of [in]action and preventing any further pushback
*: we are well aware of legit’ med’ issues so anyone about to, please chill the outrage
Divine Angel said:
You wish you were here.
https://www.hobartcity.com.au/Community/kunanyi-Mt-Wellington/kunanyi-Mount-Wellington-webcams
PermeateFree said:
Tamb said:
Finally found the hurricane doco. It was Lucy. Hurricane – 21 June 2020 – 21/6/2020 – June 21 – Sunday – SBSThis film is the story of the birth, life, and death of one storm – Lucy. Beginning its tumultuous journey as an ominous sandstorm in Senegal, heading west across the Atlantic to toss enormous ships and waves topsyturvy, then crashing into the jungles of the Caribbean, we live inside this hurricane, and it is truly awesome, scary and incredible.
Very good doco, really shows what being under the influence of a strong hurricane is like.
sarahs mum said:
Divine Angel said:
You wish you were here.
https://www.hobartcity.com.au/Community/kunanyi-Mt-Wellington/kunanyi-Mount-Wellington-webcams
sarahs mum said:
https://www.hobartcity.com.au/Community/kunanyi-Mt-Wellington/kunanyi-Mount-Wellington-webcams
Yeah you can keep that.
Tamb said:
PermeateFree said:
Tamb said:
Finally found the hurricane doco. It was Lucy. Hurricane – 21 June 2020 – 21/6/2020 – June 21 – Sunday – SBSThis film is the story of the birth, life, and death of one storm – Lucy. Beginning its tumultuous journey as an ominous sandstorm in Senegal, heading west across the Atlantic to toss enormous ships and waves topsyturvy, then crashing into the jungles of the Caribbean, we live inside this hurricane, and it is truly awesome, scary and incredible.
Very good doco, really shows what being under the influence of a strong hurricane is like.
They didn’t get the cyclone roar quite right. I’ve been in a few cyclones, including Yasi, and the roar is scary-making to the inexperienced.
Probably good to be a little bit scared in a cyclone
Divine Angel said:
sarahs mum said:
https://www.hobartcity.com.au/Community/kunanyi-Mt-Wellington/kunanyi-Mount-Wellington-webcams
Yeah you can keep that.
It’s wet like it hasn’t been wet for a long time. It is historical wet. Hmm. *goes to check flood warnings…
Cymek said:
Tamb said:
PermeateFree said:Very good doco, really shows what being under the influence of a strong hurricane is like.
They didn’t get the cyclone roar quite right. I’ve been in a few cyclones, including Yasi, and the roar is scary-making to the inexperienced.Probably good to be a little bit scared in a cyclone
Tamb said:
Cymek said:
Tamb said:They didn’t get the cyclone roar quite right. I’ve been in a few cyclones, including Yasi, and the roar is scary-making to the inexperienced.
Probably good to be a little bit scared in a cyclone
The more precautions you take the less scared you are.
Storms are always good to watch I imagine a cyclone from a reasonable distance would be similar
Cymek said:
Tamb said:
Cymek said:Probably good to be a little bit scared in a cyclone
The more precautions you take the less scared you are.Storms are always good to watch I imagine a cyclone from a reasonable distance would be similar
I was on a cruise ship 300kms behind a cyclone. Not fun.
Cymek said:
Tamb said:
Cymek said:Probably good to be a little bit scared in a cyclone
The more precautions you take the less scared you are.Storms are always good to watch I imagine a cyclone from a reasonable distance would be similar
Tonight we dine on beef and mushroom pie, accompanied by steamed carrots and Warrigal greens. I made chocolate custard for dessert.
Did we suddenly turn into Conspiracy Central?
buffy said:
Did we suddenly turn into Conspiracy Central?
Simple extrapolation.
PermeateFree said:
buffy said:
Did we suddenly turn into Conspiracy Central?Simple extrapolation.
But this is the most intense and widespread testing and recording ever, I think, for a particular organism. If you tested for the various flus on this level each year, you would find a lot higher numbers than have been historically recorded. It’s the science. And the ability to manipulate the numbers. We haven’t done it at this level before.
buffy said:
PermeateFree said:
buffy said:
Did we suddenly turn into Conspiracy Central?Simple extrapolation.
But this is the most intense and widespread testing and recording ever, I think, for a particular organism. If you tested for the various flus on this level each year, you would find a lot higher numbers than have been historically recorded. It’s the science. And the ability to manipulate the numbers. We haven’t done it at this level before.
Quite, and if that was all there was to it, but the economy is also bearing down, people will be losing their homes, with no jobs, and probably worse. We have here a multi-level attack, none of which we can easily side-step. There will be a limit to handouts.
An interesting autoimmune disease experiment that may pave the way for fixing autoimmune diseases.
https://www.sciencealert.com/researchers-switched-rogue-white-blood-cells-from-attacking-the-body-to-protecting-it
humans eh?
According to NASA, along with 96 bags of urine and vomit, there are old boots, towels, backpacks, and wet wipes on the moon. With no garbage cans at hand, astronauts have left behind magazines, cameras, blankets, and shovels.
https://www.wired.com/story/curious-history-crap-human-animal-chemical/?mbid=social_twitter&utm_brand=wired&utm_campaign=falcon&utm_medium=social&utm_social-type=owned&utm_source=twitter
Multi-image of the recent annular solar eclipse.

Arts said:
humans eh?According to NASA, along with 96 bags of urine and vomit, there are old boots, towels, backpacks, and wet wipes on the moon. With no garbage cans at hand, astronauts have left behind magazines, cameras, blankets, and shovels.
https://www.wired.com/story/curious-history-crap-human-animal-chemical/?mbid=social_twitter&utm_brand=wired&utm_campaign=falcon&utm_medium=social&utm_social-type=owned&utm_source=twitter
You gotta go a long way to find a bit of wilderness these days.
itsa coming.
http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR702.loop.shtml#skip
JudgeMental said:
itsa coming.http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR702.loop.shtml#skip
Thoughts and prayers.
JudgeMental said:
itsa coming.http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR702.loop.shtml#skip
Been and gone here…
http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR142.loop.shtml#skip
Michael V said:
Multi-image of the recent annular solar eclipse.
China’s fault
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
Multi-image of the recent annular solar eclipse.
China’s fault
They built the moon?
China is part of the specific rim.
Peak Warming Man said:
China is part of the specific rim.
but not the ring of fire, I think that’s India.
Come on you lot. You are supposed to be entertaining me. I’m shredding documentation from the 2013-14 tax year, and records of patients who died and I haven’t seen for > 7 years. I need entertaining. (Apart from reading the patient’s names and remembering them)
the writing on the wall
SCIENCE said:
the writing on the wall
Dammit, have those kids been in here with their crayons again?
buffy said:
Come on you lot. You are supposed to be entertaining me. I’m shredding documentation from the 2013-14 tax year, and records of patients who died and I haven’t seen for > 7 years. I need entertaining. (Apart from reading the patient’s names and remembering them)
Me n Arts are listening to a trauma cleaner, although there are several tangents.
She’d be a hoot when drunk.
Michael V said:
Multi-image of the recent annular solar eclipse.
That is very cool.
Evening. It’s a warm 3.3 in the Styx. Nothing of entertaining value here, we have a dedicated wheelie bin for shredding.
Divine Angel said:
buffy said:
Come on you lot. You are supposed to be entertaining me. I’m shredding documentation from the 2013-14 tax year, and records of patients who died and I haven’t seen for > 7 years. I need entertaining. (Apart from reading the patient’s names and remembering them)Me n Arts are listening to a trauma cleaner, although there are several tangents.
She’d be a hoot when drunk.
I take it you mean the trauma cleaner, rather than Arts.
:)
(I just shredded the records of one of my favourite old blokes. This really is a memory trip)
I think Arts would also be a hoot when drunk.
Divine Angel said:
buffy said:
Come on you lot. You are supposed to be entertaining me. I’m shredding documentation from the 2013-14 tax year, and records of patients who died and I haven’t seen for > 7 years. I need entertaining. (Apart from reading the patient’s names and remembering them)Me n Arts are listening to a trauma cleaner, although there are several tangents.
She’d be a hoot when drunk.
meh. I gave up when she started getting political. No way I would vote for her.
Divine Angel said:
I think Arts would also be a hoot when drunk.
I’ve been drunk on here several times.. I tend just to lose my filter and say fuck a lot more…. no ok I can see why no one notices.
Divine Angel said:
I think Arts would also be a hoot when drunk.
Nice save
Arts said:
Divine Angel said:
buffy said:
Come on you lot. You are supposed to be entertaining me. I’m shredding documentation from the 2013-14 tax year, and records of patients who died and I haven’t seen for > 7 years. I need entertaining. (Apart from reading the patient’s names and remembering them)Me n Arts are listening to a trauma cleaner, although there are several tangents.
She’d be a hoot when drunk.
meh. I gave up when she started getting political. No way I would vote for her.
Same.
Interesting turn of phrase when she told the family of the deceased parents, “disobey my staff and you won’t get out of here alive…”
Divine Angel said:
Arts said:
Divine Angel said:Me n Arts are listening to a trauma cleaner, although there are several tangents.
She’d be a hoot when drunk.
meh. I gave up when she started getting political. No way I would vote for her.
Same.
Interesting turn of phrase when she told the family of the deceased parents, “disobey my staff and you won’t get out of here alive…”
yeah I found her to be brash and a little more condescending than I had expected.. but I totally respect her for her outlook of moving on/forward/ always learning and doing things to the best of her ability… I admired that and am happy enough for her comfort in her life. … but I probably wouldn’t want to hang with her for too long and I definitely won’t be buying the book…
also I thought the person asking the questions was a bit Rove about it.. cutting her off at important moments and ploughing forward. (I get that she has a timeline, but still.. she was no Denton…)
Arts said:
also I thought the person asking the questions was a bit Rove about it.. cutting her off at important moments and ploughing forward. (I get that she has a timeline, but still.. she was no Denton…)
The interviewer needs better internet.
I got the book from the library last week, haven’t read it yet.
Did anyone notice the days getting longer today?
Happy Solstice for yesterday if you did.
Le Tour starts Saturday! Wooo!
Divine Angel said:
Arts said:
also I thought the person asking the questions was a bit Rove about it.. cutting her off at important moments and ploughing forward. (I get that she has a timeline, but still.. she was no Denton…)
The interviewer needs better internet.
Was this on radio or TV?
Neophyte said:
Divine Angel said:
Arts said:
also I thought the person asking the questions was a bit Rove about it.. cutting her off at important moments and ploughing forward. (I get that she has a timeline, but still.. she was no Denton…)
The interviewer needs better internet.
Was this on radio or TV?
it was a zoom meeting that you registered for.
Arts said:
Neophyte said:
Divine Angel said:The interviewer needs better internet.
Was this on radio or TV?
it was a zoom meeting that you registered for.
it had the ‘I can’t hear you”. “You cut out there for a minute” and the one lady who kept making noise so her video would be the one to come on the screen .. classic zoom.
From point to point
https://i.imgur.com/gFyWErJ.mp4


I liked her passion.
“China is not our friend!” She got a bit Pauline Hanson there for a minute.
sarahs mum said:
that’s a good one
sarahs mum said:
That’s no threat – I’ve been to TAFE!
(Training for All Futile Endeavours)
sarahs mum said:
One of the school mums was having a whinge that anything under 25 degrees is cold. Since we’re forecast for lows in single digits later this week, I look forward for her dressing in snow gear.
Divine Angel said:
I liked her passion.“China is not our friend!” She got a bit Pauline Hanson there for a minute.
A few of us here have been saying this for a while now.
poikilotherm said:
Evening. It’s a warm 3.3 in the Styx. Nothing of entertaining value here, we have a dedicated wheelie bin for shredding.
My shreds go into garbage bags and then become chook nesting material. Because of Dad dying and leaving a lot of multiple paperwork, and me closing the practice, and the normal attrition of patient records after 7 years of no contact…I’ve got a lot of bags of shreds in the shed.
Just culled the cards from the cabinet of records for people who I know have died. They live out in the garage. It was getting very squashy in there, I couldn’t put the newly deceased ones in. So those who I hadn’t seen since 2013 are now sitting in a basket waiting for the end of the year. Then they will be recorded – name, D.O.B, period of attendance at the practice – and then the records will be shredded.
I’ve had some lovely patients. Going through the records is not such a sad thing. One amused me…after discussion, he refused referral to see about his cataracts because “it’s a race between the cataract and the leukemia”. He died the next month. He was quite at peace with it.
buffy said:
poikilotherm said:
Evening. It’s a warm 3.3 in the Styx. Nothing of entertaining value here, we have a dedicated wheelie bin for shredding.
My shreds go into garbage bags and then become chook nesting material. Because of Dad dying and leaving a lot of multiple paperwork, and me closing the practice, and the normal attrition of patient records after 7 years of no contact…I’ve got a lot of bags of shreds in the shed.
Just culled the cards from the cabinet of records for people who I know have died. They live out in the garage. It was getting very squashy in there, I couldn’t put the newly deceased ones in. So those who I hadn’t seen since 2013 are now sitting in a basket waiting for the end of the year. Then they will be recorded – name, D.O.B, period of attendance at the practice – and then the records will be shredded.
I’ve had some lovely patients. Going through the records is not such a sad thing. One amused me…after discussion, he refused referral to see about his cataracts because “it’s a race between the cataract and the leukemia”. He died the next month. He was quite at peace with it.
oh.
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:
poikilotherm said:
Evening. It’s a warm 3.3 in the Styx. Nothing of entertaining value here, we have a dedicated wheelie bin for shredding.
My shreds go into garbage bags and then become chook nesting material. Because of Dad dying and leaving a lot of multiple paperwork, and me closing the practice, and the normal attrition of patient records after 7 years of no contact…I’ve got a lot of bags of shreds in the shed.
Just culled the cards from the cabinet of records for people who I know have died. They live out in the garage. It was getting very squashy in there, I couldn’t put the newly deceased ones in. So those who I hadn’t seen since 2013 are now sitting in a basket waiting for the end of the year. Then they will be recorded – name, D.O.B, period of attendance at the practice – and then the records will be shredded.
I’ve had some lovely patients. Going through the records is not such a sad thing. One amused me…after discussion, he refused referral to see about his cataracts because “it’s a race between the cataract and the leukemia”. He died the next month. He was quite at peace with it.
oh.
It’s just the rhythm and cycle of life.
Rule 303 said:
Le Tour starts Saturday! Wooo!
Err, what tour is this?
Another winter cold front has arrived.
http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR703.loop.shtml#skip
party_pants said:
Another winter cold front has arrived.http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR703.loop.shtml#skip
That looks fun.
PermeateFree said:
or Australia
wait
Divine Angel said:
party_pants said:
Another winter cold front has arrived.http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR703.loop.shtml#skip
That looks fun.
I’ve had to turn up the volume on the TV.
Divine Angel said:
sarahs mum said:
One of the school mums was having a whinge that anything under 25 degrees is cold. Since we’re forecast for lows in single digits later this week, I look forward for her dressing in snow gear.
in fairness we took a stroll around Toronto in t-shirt and shorts and the locals pulled up next to us and shouted at us “are you fkn crazy” before we got to the castle museum
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
Le Tour starts Saturday! Wooo!
Err, what tour is this?
L’Etape Classique!
(the classic stages)
On SBS, starting Saturday night.
PermeateFree said:
I think my blood sugars went up just looking at that picture.
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
Le Tour starts Saturday! Wooo!
Err, what tour is this?
L’Etape Classique!
(the classic stages)
On SBS, starting Saturday night.
Yeah, OK. I doubt Phil Liggett will be getting out of bed :)
party_pants said:
Another winter cold front has arrived.http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR703.loop.shtml#skip
I got home just in time for it to only sprinkle on my car… coming down now…
buffy said:
It’s just the rhythm and cycle of life.
Maybe it’s an optometrist thing :)
I’ve had some great conversations with my optometrist, but the one I remember most was when I next saw her soon after my father had died in an accident. Her words were so well chosen, so appropriate for where I was at that stage, yet so easily spoken. They helped me more to move forward than any other single thing that I can identify.
Speedy said:
buffy said:It’s just the rhythm and cycle of life.
Maybe it’s an optometrist thing :)
I’ve had some great conversations with my optometrist, but the one I remember most was when I next saw her soon after my father had died in an accident. Her words were so well chosen, so appropriate for where I was at that stage, yet so easily spoken. They helped me more to move forward than any other single thing that I can identify.
You can’t just post that and then not tell us what she said.
Rule 303 said:
Speedy said:
buffy said:It’s just the rhythm and cycle of life.
Maybe it’s an optometrist thing :)
I’ve had some great conversations with my optometrist, but the one I remember most was when I next saw her soon after my father had died in an accident. Her words were so well chosen, so appropriate for where I was at that stage, yet so easily spoken. They helped me more to move forward than any other single thing that I can identify.
You can’t just post that and then not tell us what she said.
Maybe I need an optometrist.
sarahs mum said:
Rule 303 said:
Speedy said:Maybe it’s an optometrist thing :)
I’ve had some great conversations with my optometrist, but the one I remember most was when I next saw her soon after my father had died in an accident. Her words were so well chosen, so appropriate for where I was at that stage, yet so easily spoken. They helped me more to move forward than any other single thing that I can identify.
You can’t just post that and then not tell us what she said.
Maybe I need an optometrist.
Speedy, did you mean ‘Optometrist’ or ‘Optimist’? Because they would be pretty easy to mix up.
>sigh<
That’s a stupid question. Just entertaining myself…
Please ignore.
:-)
In its guide to the bidding process, FIFA emphasised its commitment to “conduct an open, ethical and thorough bidding process” to select the host, which includes an open vote.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-22/japan-withdraws-womens-world-cup-bid/12381812
So they’re basically saying we’ve got Buckley’s.
sibeen said:
In its guide to the bidding process, FIFA emphasised its commitment to “conduct an open, ethical and thorough bidding process” to select the host, which includes an open vote.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-22/japan-withdraws-womens-world-cup-bid/12381812
So they’re basically saying we’ve got Buckley’s.
I wonder what brought about such a novel approach. This is not how FIFA usually do things.
Rule 303 said:
Speedy said:
buffy said:It’s just the rhythm and cycle of life.
Maybe it’s an optometrist thing :)
I’ve had some great conversations with my optometrist, but the one I remember most was when I next saw her soon after my father had died in an accident. Her words were so well chosen, so appropriate for where I was at that stage, yet so easily spoken. They helped me more to move forward than any other single thing that I can identify.
You can’t just post that and then not tell us what she said.
Oh yeah. She said something like, “Oh well, too bad, hey? It’s your time now and time for your kids”.
It really was something that harsh, and I probably would have found it offensive a few weeks before she said it, but it was perfect :)
So, I came here to ask what a tank room is, in a house.
What is a tank room? In a house.
So, I came here to ask what a tank room is, in a house.
What is a tank room? In a house.
Rule 303 said:
sarahs mum said:
Rule 303 said:You can’t just post that and then not tell us what she said.
Maybe I need an optometrist.
Speedy, did you mean ‘Optometrist’ or ‘Optimist’? Because they would be pretty easy to mix up.
>sigh<
That’s a stupid question. Just entertaining myself…
Please ignore.
:-)
:)
Speedy said:
So, I came here to ask what a tank room is, in a house.What is a tank room? In a house.
aquarium.
Speedy said:
So, I came here to ask what a tank room is, in a house.What is a tank room? In a house.
Where in the house is it?
My guess is that it would be a water tank somewhere to provide a supply for the house.
party_pants said:
Speedy said:
So, I came here to ask what a tank room is, in a house.What is a tank room? In a house.
Where in the house is it?
My guess is that it would be a water tank somewhere to provide a supply for the house.
https://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/community/threads/tank-room.17692/
party_pants said:
Speedy said:
So, I came here to ask what a tank room is, in a house.What is a tank room? In a house.
Where in the house is it?
My guess is that it would be a water tank somewhere to provide a supply for the house.
It is accessed via the workshop
Speedy said:
party_pants said:
Speedy said:
So, I came here to ask what a tank room is, in a house.What is a tank room? In a house.
Where in the house is it?
My guess is that it would be a water tank somewhere to provide a supply for the house.
It is accessed via the workshop
I can only assume it is some kind of internal rainwater tanks in the space.
party_pants said:
Speedy said:
party_pants said:Where in the house is it?
My guess is that it would be a water tank somewhere to provide a supply for the house.
It is accessed via the workshop
I can only assume it is some kind of internal rainwater tanks in the space.
It’s strange as they would have water piped in. After reading some of the posts on sm’s link, I was thinking that the house may have been built over something that was previously on that site, such as a brewery.
Speedy said:
party_pants said:
Speedy said:It is accessed via the workshop
I can only assume it is some kind of internal rainwater tanks in the space.
It’s strange as they would have water piped in. After reading some of the posts on sm’s link, I was thinking that the house may have been built over something that was previously on that site, such as a brewery.
Dunno. Is it in a bushfire prone area perhaps, they want a reserve of water for firefighting independent of scheme water??
I don’t know. I’m guessing. Maybe email the real estate agent and aask.
party_pants said:
Speedy said:
party_pants said:I can only assume it is some kind of internal rainwater tanks in the space.
It’s strange as they would have water piped in. After reading some of the posts on sm’s link, I was thinking that the house may have been built over something that was previously on that site, such as a brewery.
Dunno. Is it in a bushfire prone area perhaps, they want a reserve of water for firefighting independent of scheme water??
I don’t know. I’m guessing. Maybe email the real estate agent and aask.
I could do a Mrs Bucket, but I won’t :)
Speedy said:
party_pants said:
Speedy said:It is accessed via the workshop
I can only assume it is some kind of internal rainwater tanks in the space.
It’s strange as they would have water piped in. After reading some of the posts on sm’s link, I was thinking that the house may have been built over something that was previously on that site, such as a brewery.
At 5 × 13.8 it’s just a fraction shy of the size of two semi-trailers parked side-by-side. If it were full of water it would hold 156,000L.
Hope that helps.
can’t stop eating
party_pants said:
Speedy said:
party_pants said:I can only assume it is some kind of internal rainwater tanks in the space.
It’s strange as they would have water piped in. After reading some of the posts on sm’s link, I was thinking that the house may have been built over something that was previously on that site, such as a brewery.
Dunno. Is it in a bushfire prone area perhaps, they want a reserve of water for firefighting independent of scheme water??
I don’t know. I’m guessing. Maybe email the real estate agent and aask.
I just found this https://www.news.com.au/finance/real-estate/sydney-nsw/awardwinning-bayview-property-for-sale-might-have-some-of-the-best-views-of-pittwater/news-story/ee77a0b64a15ca87ef1e1b4cbd7e0814
The home has a Japanese style garden with a waterfall, pond and water features. There is also two aviaries, six caged vegetable gardens, an orchard and three compost binds. These are irrigated from eight water tanks with 125,000l capacity.
Rule 303 said:
Speedy said:
party_pants said:I can only assume it is some kind of internal rainwater tanks in the space.
It’s strange as they would have water piped in. After reading some of the posts on sm’s link, I was thinking that the house may have been built over something that was previously on that site, such as a brewery.
At 5 × 13.8 it’s just a fraction shy of the size of two semi-trailers parked side-by-side. If it were full of water it would hold 156,000L.
Hope that helps.
Not far off the 125,000L.
Speedy said:
party_pants said:
Speedy said:It’s strange as they would have water piped in. After reading some of the posts on sm’s link, I was thinking that the house may have been built over something that was previously on that site, such as a brewery.
Dunno. Is it in a bushfire prone area perhaps, they want a reserve of water for firefighting independent of scheme water??
I don’t know. I’m guessing. Maybe email the real estate agent and aask.
I just found this https://www.news.com.au/finance/real-estate/sydney-nsw/awardwinning-bayview-property-for-sale-might-have-some-of-the-best-views-of-pittwater/news-story/ee77a0b64a15ca87ef1e1b4cbd7e0814
The home has a Japanese style garden with a waterfall, pond and water features. There is also two aviaries, six caged vegetable gardens, an orchard and three compost binds. These are irrigated from eight water tanks with 125,000l capacity.
OK. Seems odd to have them indoors. Tanks are not so unsightly IMHO.
party_pants said:
Speedy said:
party_pants said:Dunno. Is it in a bushfire prone area perhaps, they want a reserve of water for firefighting independent of scheme water??
I don’t know. I’m guessing. Maybe email the real estate agent and aask.
I just found this https://www.news.com.au/finance/real-estate/sydney-nsw/awardwinning-bayview-property-for-sale-might-have-some-of-the-best-views-of-pittwater/news-story/ee77a0b64a15ca87ef1e1b4cbd7e0814
The home has a Japanese style garden with a waterfall, pond and water features. There is also two aviaries, six caged vegetable gardens, an orchard and three compost binds. These are irrigated from eight water tanks with 125,000l capacity.
OK. Seems odd to have them indoors. Tanks are not so unsightly IMHO.
i suppose the system would be less likely to fail in bushfire.
party_pants said:
Speedy said:
party_pants said:Dunno. Is it in a bushfire prone area perhaps, they want a reserve of water for firefighting independent of scheme water??
I don’t know. I’m guessing. Maybe email the real estate agent and aask.
I just found this https://www.news.com.au/finance/real-estate/sydney-nsw/awardwinning-bayview-property-for-sale-might-have-some-of-the-best-views-of-pittwater/news-story/ee77a0b64a15ca87ef1e1b4cbd7e0814
The home has a Japanese style garden with a waterfall, pond and water features. There is also two aviaries, six caged vegetable gardens, an orchard and three compost binds. These are irrigated from eight water tanks with 125,000l capacity.
OK. Seems odd to have them indoors. Tanks are not so unsightly IMHO.
Without speculating on this particular case, and aside from being stored water, water tanks are a huge thermal mass. They are increasingly being incorporated into the house to stabilise the internal temperature through active and passive cooling methods.
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:
Speedy said:I just found this https://www.news.com.au/finance/real-estate/sydney-nsw/awardwinning-bayview-property-for-sale-might-have-some-of-the-best-views-of-pittwater/news-story/ee77a0b64a15ca87ef1e1b4cbd7e0814
The home has a Japanese style garden with a waterfall, pond and water features. There is also two aviaries, six caged vegetable gardens, an orchard and three compost binds. These are irrigated from eight water tanks with 125,000l capacity.
OK. Seems odd to have them indoors. Tanks are not so unsightly IMHO.
Without speculating on this particular case, and aside from being stored water, water tanks are a huge thermal mass. They are increasingly being incorporated into the house to stabilise the internal temperature through active and passive cooling methods.
makes sense.
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:
Speedy said:I just found this https://www.news.com.au/finance/real-estate/sydney-nsw/awardwinning-bayview-property-for-sale-might-have-some-of-the-best-views-of-pittwater/news-story/ee77a0b64a15ca87ef1e1b4cbd7e0814
The home has a Japanese style garden with a waterfall, pond and water features. There is also two aviaries, six caged vegetable gardens, an orchard and three compost binds. These are irrigated from eight water tanks with 125,000l capacity.
OK. Seems odd to have them indoors. Tanks are not so unsightly IMHO.
Without speculating on this particular case, and aside from being stored water, water tanks are a huge thermal mass. They are increasingly being incorporated into the house to stabilise the internal temperature through active and passive cooling methods.
Speculating is good :)
sarahs mum said:
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:OK. Seems odd to have them indoors. Tanks are not so unsightly IMHO.
Without speculating on this particular case, and aside from being stored water, water tanks are a huge thermal mass. They are increasingly being incorporated into the house to stabilise the internal temperature through active and passive cooling methods.
makes sense.
When you look at the money and energy and destructive effects involved with heating and cooling houses, I have never understood why we ever started building above ground. I mean, I know the obvious answer is that we have largely imported the building practices of people who lived in cold places with lots of trees to burn, but we don’t, and there’s been several dramatic improvements in efficiency since then.
Rule 303 said:
sarahs mum said:
Rule 303 said:Without speculating on this particular case, and aside from being stored water, water tanks are a huge thermal mass. They are increasingly being incorporated into the house to stabilise the internal temperature through active and passive cooling methods.
makes sense.
When you look at the money and energy and destructive effects involved with heating and cooling houses, I have never understood why we ever started building above ground. I mean, I know the obvious answer is that we have largely imported the building practices of people who lived in cold places with lots of trees to burn, but we don’t, and there’s been several dramatic improvements in efficiency since then.
(Exemptions from the above statements apply for people who live on the Snug tiers, for obvious reasons)
Rule 303 said:
sarahs mum said:
Rule 303 said:Without speculating on this particular case, and aside from being stored water, water tanks are a huge thermal mass. They are increasingly being incorporated into the house to stabilise the internal temperature through active and passive cooling methods.
makes sense.
When you look at the money and energy and destructive effects involved with heating and cooling houses, I have never understood why we ever started building above ground. I mean, I know the obvious answer is that we have largely imported the building practices of people who lived in cold places with lots of trees to burn, but we don’t, and there’s been several dramatic improvements in efficiency since then.
I have imagined building a house that floated on a water tank. That went down in summer and rose back up in winter.
Rule 303 said:
Rule 303 said:
sarahs mum said:makes sense.
When you look at the money and energy and destructive effects involved with heating and cooling houses, I have never understood why we ever started building above ground. I mean, I know the obvious answer is that we have largely imported the building practices of people who lived in cold places with lots of trees to burn, but we don’t, and there’s been several dramatic improvements in efficiency since then.
(Exemptions from the above statements apply for people who live on the Snug tiers, for obvious reasons)
It’s wet here. I think we have had four inches since last night. I didn’t burn too much carbon.
Rule 303 said:
sarahs mum said:
Rule 303 said:Without speculating on this particular case, and aside from being stored water, water tanks are a huge thermal mass. They are increasingly being incorporated into the house to stabilise the internal temperature through active and passive cooling methods.
makes sense.
When you look at the money and energy and destructive effects involved with heating and cooling houses, I have never understood why we ever started building above ground. I mean, I know the obvious answer is that we have largely imported the building practices of people who lived in cold places with lots of trees to burn, but we don’t, and there’s been several dramatic improvements in efficiency since then.
Rising damp.
sarahs mum said:
Rule 303 said:
sarahs mum said:makes sense.
When you look at the money and energy and destructive effects involved with heating and cooling houses, I have never understood why we ever started building above ground. I mean, I know the obvious answer is that we have largely imported the building practices of people who lived in cold places with lots of trees to burn, but we don’t, and there’s been several dramatic improvements in efficiency since then.
I have imagined building a house that floated on a water tank. That went down in summer and rose back up in winter.
If you felt like a different view, you could just turn it around.
Depending on how flexible the plumbing and wiring was, of course.
Neophyte said:
sarahs mum said:
Rule 303 said:When you look at the money and energy and destructive effects involved with heating and cooling houses, I have never understood why we ever started building above ground. I mean, I know the obvious answer is that we have largely imported the building practices of people who lived in cold places with lots of trees to burn, but we don’t, and there’s been several dramatic improvements in efficiency since then.
I have imagined building a house that floated on a water tank. That went down in summer and rose back up in winter.
If you felt like a different view, you could just turn it around.
Having it turn around is probably the easy bit.
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:
sarahs mum said:makes sense.
When you look at the money and energy and destructive effects involved with heating and cooling houses, I have never understood why we ever started building above ground. I mean, I know the obvious answer is that we have largely imported the building practices of people who lived in cold places with lots of trees to burn, but we don’t, and there’s been several dramatic improvements in efficiency since then.
Rising damp.
Rising damp is just damp without a slope leaning up against a porous structure. We’ve known about water and gravity ever since Og watched a steam flow down a hill. We’ve had water lifting devices for millennia. The work inputs required to heat a house in a cold climate are two fifths of three eights of fuck all compared to controlling the movement of ground water.
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:When you look at the money and energy and destructive effects involved with heating and cooling houses, I have never understood why we ever started building above ground. I mean, I know the obvious answer is that we have largely imported the building practices of people who lived in cold places with lots of trees to burn, but we don’t, and there’s been several dramatic improvements in efficiency since then.
Rising damp.
Rising damp is just damp without a slope leaning up against a porous structure. We’ve known about water and gravity ever since Og watched a steam flow down a hill. We’ve had water lifting devices for millennia. The work inputs required to heat a house in a cold climate are two fifths of three eights of fuck all compared to controlling the movement of ground water.
Wait, WTF happened to Cunningham’s law? I got those around the wrong way.
Is it bed time yet?
I’ve drawn a chicken. I am still ratty and not fully engaged with my practice. But there is a drawing of a chicken. With any luck it will be transferred to a plate tomorrow.
sarahs mum said:
I’ve drawn a chicken. I am still ratty and not fully engaged with my practice. But there is a drawing of a chicken. With any luck it will be transferred to a plate tomorrow.
:)
I’m going to do a session in the studio shortly. Adjusting a gown and outlining the last foreground details.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
I’ve drawn a chicken. I am still ratty and not fully engaged with my practice. But there is a drawing of a chicken. With any luck it will be transferred to a plate tomorrow.
:)
I’m going to do a session in the studio shortly. Adjusting a gown and outlining the last foreground details.
:)
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
I’ve drawn a chicken. I am still ratty and not fully engaged with my practice. But there is a drawing of a chicken. With any luck it will be transferred to a plate tomorrow.
:)
I’m going to do a session in the studio shortly. Adjusting a gown and outlining the last foreground details.
You’ve transferred so many chickens to plates before…
Neophyte said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
I’ve drawn a chicken. I am still ratty and not fully engaged with my practice. But there is a drawing of a chicken. With any luck it will be transferred to a plate tomorrow.
:)
I’m going to do a session in the studio shortly. Adjusting a gown and outlining the last foreground details.
You’ve transferred so many chickens to plates before…
true.
This I found hard to believe, but …

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2019/10/search-dark-matter-depends-ancient-shipwrecks/600718/
“Why the Search for Dark Matter Depends on Ancient Shipwrecks. Lead is mined and refined all over the world, but that centuries-old lead, sitting in a shipwreck, has a rare quality. Having sat deep underwater since before the United States of America was born, its natural radioactivity has decayed to a point where it’s no longer spitting out particles. For particle physicists, that makes it exceptionally valuable. Just a few inches of lead can shield detectors from all kinds of rogue radiation, and one of the best ways to block sneaky, unwanted particles is to surround them with lead that itself is barely radioactive. The best source of such lead just so happens to be sunken ships”.
Now mined lead is absolutely chock full of other elements, not just silver and zinc, and some of these are radioactive.
But this radioactivity would have decayed wherever it was situated, underground for example, not just underwater. So I don’t quite get it.
mollwollfumble said:
This I found hard to believe, but …
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2019/10/search-dark-matter-depends-ancient-shipwrecks/600718/
“Why the Search for Dark Matter Depends on Ancient Shipwrecks. Lead is mined and refined all over the world, but that centuries-old lead, sitting in a shipwreck, has a rare quality. Having sat deep underwater since before the United States of America was born, its natural radioactivity has decayed to a point where it’s no longer spitting out particles. For particle physicists, that makes it exceptionally valuable. Just a few inches of lead can shield detectors from all kinds of rogue radiation, and one of the best ways to block sneaky, unwanted particles is to surround them with lead that itself is barely radioactive. The best source of such lead just so happens to be sunken ships”.
Now mined lead is absolutely chock full of other elements, not just silver and zinc, and some of these are radioactive.
But this radioactivity would have decayed wherever it was situated, underground for example, not just underwater. So I don’t quite get it.
Adsorbtion -> absorbtion chemistry? They’re migrating to the surface and getting dragged away by the highly electrolytic sea water?
Rule 303 said:
mollwollfumble said:
This I found hard to believe, but …
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2019/10/search-dark-matter-depends-ancient-shipwrecks/600718/
“Why the Search for Dark Matter Depends on Ancient Shipwrecks. Lead is mined and refined all over the world, but that centuries-old lead, sitting in a shipwreck, has a rare quality. Having sat deep underwater since before the United States of America was born, its natural radioactivity has decayed to a point where it’s no longer spitting out particles. For particle physicists, that makes it exceptionally valuable. Just a few inches of lead can shield detectors from all kinds of rogue radiation, and one of the best ways to block sneaky, unwanted particles is to surround them with lead that itself is barely radioactive. The best source of such lead just so happens to be sunken ships”.
Now mined lead is absolutely chock full of other elements, not just silver and zinc, and some of these are radioactive.
But this radioactivity would have decayed wherever it was situated, underground for example, not just underwater. So I don’t quite get it.
Adsorbtion -> absorbtion chemistry? They’re migrating to the surface and getting dragged away by the highly electrolytic sea water?
Oh, I hadn’t thought of that. Radon would build up underground but dissipate underwater, for example.
Oh, this is cute. I was wondering how many objects in the solar system have more than a trace atmosphere. eg. Mercury doesn’t, Pluto does. So that gives planets V,E,M,J,S,U,N, as well as four Jupiter and one Saturn moon. And Pluto makes thirteen. Triton only has a trace atmosphere.
Which got me wondering if Eris has an atmosphere. The answer is amusing, it’s yes and no, depending on the distance from the Sun. Close to the Sun it has an atmosphere, but that freezes solid as it approaches its furthest distance from the Sun.
Mornin’.
Currently 10 degrees, heading for a sunny 20.
Dreamed I was live tweeting with the hashtag #MyDinnerWithThePres because I was seated next to Trump for dinner. He had Southern fried chicken. Dream didn’t explain how or why I was having dinner with him, but Poh from Masterchef was also there.
Morning, overcast and cold at 2.2 . Nil dreams here, just the nothingness of sleep.
Good morning Holidayers. It’s practically tropical here at 9 degrees. It’s still dark. Been a very gusty sort of night out there. Probably gusting 50-60km/hr by the sound of it and a quick look at surrounding BoM observations. Forecast or today is for a morning shower or two and 15 degrees.
I see there is an initial minor flood warning for the Yarra River.
Today is the meat collecting day from Casterton. On the way we will stop in Hamilton for Mr buffy to have fasting blood tests and pick up some scripts from the doctor. We’ve taken to describing this as our Old Farts Go For a Drive Day.
13mm so far from this system. May get more today? If we are lucky.
Divine Angel said:
Mornin’.Currently 10 degrees, heading for a sunny 20.
Dreamed I was live tweeting with the hashtag #MyDinnerWithThePres because I was seated next to Trump for dinner. He had Southern fried chicken. Dream didn’t explain how or why I was having dinner with him, but Poh from Masterchef was also there.
Poh isn’t from masterchef.
roughbarked said:
Divine Angel said:
Mornin’.Currently 10 degrees, heading for a sunny 20.
Dreamed I was live tweeting with the hashtag #MyDinnerWithThePres because I was seated next to Trump for dinner. He had Southern fried chicken. Dream didn’t explain how or why I was having dinner with him, but Poh from Masterchef was also there.
Poh isn’t from masterchef.
I think you might find she is these days. I think I’ve seen ads.
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
Divine Angel said:
Mornin’.Currently 10 degrees, heading for a sunny 20.
Dreamed I was live tweeting with the hashtag #MyDinnerWithThePres because I was seated next to Trump for dinner. He had Southern fried chicken. Dream didn’t explain how or why I was having dinner with him, but Poh from Masterchef was also there.
Poh isn’t from masterchef.
I think you might find she is these days. I think I’ve seen ads.
Well, she’s milking it now.
Day three.
Speedy said:
Rule 303 said:
Speedy said:Maybe it’s an optometrist thing :)
I’ve had some great conversations with my optometrist, but the one I remember most was when I next saw her soon after my father had died in an accident. Her words were so well chosen, so appropriate for where I was at that stage, yet so easily spoken. They helped me more to move forward than any other single thing that I can identify.
You can’t just post that and then not tell us what she said.
Oh yeah. She said something like, “Oh well, too bad, hey? It’s your time now and time for your kids”.
It really was something that harsh, and I probably would have found it offensive a few weeks before she said it, but it was perfect :)
That actually sounds like an Arts aphorism. I agree with it. But I would add that I think I learnt that way of thinking from my patients and Mr buffy (who had to deal with those actually dying). When you have a lot of contact with the old, you find that a great many of them are quite content to let the universe do its thing in its own time. Some will fight, or are afraid. It took some years, but I understand about Old Souls.
Good morning everyone.
It’s brrrrrr. I feel cold. I have socks on my feet! I didn’t even do that in Armidale.
My instrument tells me it’s 11.5°C and 63% RH in this office. Outside it’s clear and almost calm. BoM tells me it got down to 5.4°C earlier, to expect it to get to 20°C and to expect no rain.
Bread-baking day today. I’ll split more bamboo in between checks. I might even cut some small strips of timber for re-hanging pictures.
Nick the hairdresser is probably coming around this morning. He rang up yesterday to come give us free haircuts in exchange for a cup of coffee. I cut our hair recently, so now he’s just coming around for a cup of coffee and a yack.
Hopefully some time we might be able to fit in a small bicycle ride.
roughbarked said:
Divine Angel said:
Mornin’.Currently 10 degrees, heading for a sunny 20.
Dreamed I was live tweeting with the hashtag #MyDinnerWithThePres because I was seated next to Trump for dinner. He had Southern fried chicken. Dream didn’t explain how or why I was having dinner with him, but Poh from Masterchef was also there.
Poh isn’t from masterchef.
IIRC, she was runner-up in the first series. That’s where Poh originally made her name. She capitalised on that. This year she is competing again – against a whole bunch of other previous non-winners of Masterchef.
And off we go. See you lot later.
buffy said:
And off we go. See you lot later.
Have fun.
:)
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Divine Angel said:
Mornin’.Currently 10 degrees, heading for a sunny 20.
Dreamed I was live tweeting with the hashtag #MyDinnerWithThePres because I was seated next to Trump for dinner. He had Southern fried chicken. Dream didn’t explain how or why I was having dinner with him, but Poh from Masterchef was also there.
Poh isn’t from masterchef.
IIRC, she was runner-up in the first series. That’s where Poh originally made her name. She capitalised on that. This year she is competing again – against a whole bunch of other previous non-winners of Masterchef.
Wikipedia has a page on her:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poh_Ling_Yeow
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
roughbarked said:Poh isn’t from masterchef.
I think you might find she is these days. I think I’ve seen ads.
Well, she’s milking it now.
Huh? She was runner-up in season 1 of Masterchef. This season features contestants who didn’t win, and are back to claim the title.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Divine Angel said:
Mornin’.Currently 10 degrees, heading for a sunny 20.
Dreamed I was live tweeting with the hashtag #MyDinnerWithThePres because I was seated next to Trump for dinner. He had Southern fried chicken. Dream didn’t explain how or why I was having dinner with him, but Poh from Masterchef was also there.
Poh isn’t from masterchef.
IIRC, she was runner-up in the first series. That’s where Poh originally made her name. She capitalised on that. This year she is competing again – against a whole bunch of other previous non-winners of Masterchef.
I’ve no idea how long masterchef has been running. It has never interested me.
Michael V said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:Poh isn’t from masterchef.
IIRC, she was runner-up in the first series. That’s where Poh originally made her name. She capitalised on that. This year she is competing again – against a whole bunch of other previous non-winners of Masterchef.
Wikipedia has a page on her:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poh_Ling_Yeow
Ta.
I am experimenting with sourdough today. I’m going to make Parmesan and onion sourdough. Might be a disaster, might be delicious. Who knows?
Divine Angel said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:I think you might find she is these days. I think I’ve seen ads.
Well, she’s milking it now.
Huh? She was runner-up in season 1 of Masterchef. This season features contestants who didn’t win, and are back to claim the title.
Yeow first appeared on the ABC television program Beat The Chef on 13 April 2005. Her auntie Kim Thoo assisted her in the studio kitchen, where she prepared Ying Yang Prawns. She returned to the program on 15 June 2005, assisted by her friend Felicity Electricity. This time she prepared Basil Thai Fried Rice and Deep-Fried Dory Fillets with Green Mango.
MasterChef Australia
Yeow was selected in the top 20 contestants for the first series of MasterChef Australia from over 7000 applicants. Competition and eliminations began in May 2009.
Divine Angel said:
I am experimenting with sourdough today. I’m going to make Parmesan and onion sourdough. Might be a disaster, might be delicious. Who knows?
Could end up being masterchef class.
roughbarked said:
Divine Angel said:
I am experimenting with sourdough today. I’m going to make Parmesan and onion sourdough. Might be a disaster, might be delicious. Who knows?
Could end up being masterchef class.
I reckon I could have a career in cooking for people who have lost their senses of taste and smell.
Divine Angel said:
roughbarked said:
Divine Angel said:
I am experimenting with sourdough today. I’m going to make Parmesan and onion sourdough. Might be a disaster, might be delicious. Who knows?
Could end up being masterchef class.
I reckon I could have a career in cooking for people who have lost their senses of taste and smell.
There also exists many possibilities.
roughbarked said:
Divine Angel said:
roughbarked said:Could end up being masterchef class.
I reckon I could have a career in cooking for people who have lost their senses of taste and smell.
There also exists many possibilities.
My son was a minor celebrity with his beer bread recipe.
One of my Facebook friends was tagged in a woo post that not only was there a solar eclipse on the weekend, there was also a new moon!!
Whoa.
Sigh.
Here I am concerned that motorbikes damage fragile ecosystems… https://www.abc.net.au/gardening/factsheets/peel-and-reveal—-citrus-gall-wasp/12368048
roughbarked said:
Here I am concerned that motorbikes damage fragile ecosystems… https://www.abc.net.au/gardening/factsheets/peel-and-reveal—-citrus-gall-wasp/12368048
mollwollfumble said:
Rule 303 said:
mollwollfumble said:
This I found hard to believe, but …
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2019/10/search-dark-matter-depends-ancient-shipwrecks/600718/
“Why the Search for Dark Matter Depends on Ancient Shipwrecks. Lead is mined and refined all over the world, but that centuries-old lead, sitting in a shipwreck, has a rare quality. Having sat deep underwater since before the United States of America was born, its natural radioactivity has decayed to a point where it’s no longer spitting out particles. For particle physicists, that makes it exceptionally valuable. Just a few inches of lead can shield detectors from all kinds of rogue radiation, and one of the best ways to block sneaky, unwanted particles is to surround them with lead that itself is barely radioactive. The best source of such lead just so happens to be sunken ships”.
Now mined lead is absolutely chock full of other elements, not just silver and zinc, and some of these are radioactive.
But this radioactivity would have decayed wherever it was situated, underground for example, not just underwater. So I don’t quite get it.
Adsorbtion -> absorbtion chemistry? They’re migrating to the surface and getting dragged away by the highly electrolytic sea water?
Oh, I hadn’t thought of that. Radon would build up underground but dissipate underwater, for example.
Do we have a definite answer for this?
I knew about steel etc being a problem due to nuclear testing but the leas thing surprises me.
Greetings
sibeen said:
mollwollfumble said:
Rule 303 said:Adsorbtion -> absorbtion chemistry? They’re migrating to the surface and getting dragged away by the highly electrolytic sea water?
Oh, I hadn’t thought of that. Radon would build up underground but dissipate underwater, for example.
Do we have a definite answer for this?
I knew about steel etc being a problem due to nuclear testing but the leas thing surprises me.
https://www.gns.cri.nz/Home/Services/Laboratories-Facilities/Cosmogenic-Isotope-and-Radiochemistry-Laboratory/About-Isotopes/What-is-210Pb
I found this mildly interesting:

Rule 303 said:
I found this mildly interesting:
When I watch the news it’s SBS, I like the idea that things happen outside the sphere of our own nation, commercial station news tends to mostly forget that
Wonder how Brexit is going…
poikilotherm said:
Wonder how Brexit is going…
Seems to be working well for them so far.
One day, the last SSSF regular will die.
dv said:
One day, the last SSSF regular will die.
Who will mourn them
Cymek said:
dv said:
One day, the last SSSF regular will die.
Who will mourn them
Their loved ones.
dv said:
One day, the last SSSF regular will die.
How are you so confident of this? There’s a non-zero possibility that one of our regulars will invent the technology that will end human death.
JudgeMental said:
sibeen said:
mollwollfumble said:Oh, I hadn’t thought of that. Radon would build up underground but dissipate underwater, for example.
Do we have a definite answer for this?
I knew about steel etc being a problem due to nuclear testing but the leas thing surprises me.
https://www.gns.cri.nz/Home/Services/Laboratories-Facilities/Cosmogenic-Isotope-and-Radiochemistry-Laboratory/About-Isotopes/What-is-210Pb
Thank you.
sibeen said:
JudgeMental said:
sibeen said:Do we have a definite answer for this?
I knew about steel etc being a problem due to nuclear testing but the leas thing surprises me.
https://www.gns.cri.nz/Home/Services/Laboratories-Facilities/Cosmogenic-Isotope-and-Radiochemistry-Laboratory/About-Isotopes/What-is-210Pb
Thank you.
glad it shed some light.
dv said:
One day, the last SSSF regular will die.
Not if all those with children indoctrinate them into the cult…
dv said:
One day, the last SSSF regular will die.
Thought bubble of the day.
JudgeMental said:
sibeen said:
JudgeMental said:https://www.gns.cri.nz/Home/Services/Laboratories-Facilities/Cosmogenic-Isotope-and-Radiochemistry-Laboratory/About-Isotopes/What-is-210Pb
Thank you.
glad it shed some light.
It did. :)
furious said:
dv said:
One day, the last SSSF regular will die.
Not if all those with children indoctrinate them into the cult…
It will still be on the computer when I die and I’m sure one of my children or indeed Mrs rb herself will let any left, know of my passing.
dv said:
One day, the last SSSF regular will die.
A bittersweet symphony, that’s life.
My ears are cold.
Divine Angel said:
My ears are cold.
No body is talking about you?
I wonder what happens to the name ‘Eskimo Pie” in Australia?
I wonder if anyone in the world still darns their socks.
sibeen said:
I wonder what happens to the name ‘Eskimo Pie” in Australia?
I don’t think I’ve ever seen Eskimo Pie here. Not since Maxibon came out, anyway.
Bubblecar said:
I wonder if anyone in the world still darns their socks.
I have never darned socks.
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
I wonder if anyone in the world still darns their socks.
I have never darned socks.
Neither have I but it used to be a common practice.
Divine Angel said:
sibeen said:
I wonder what happens to the name ‘Eskimo Pie” in Australia?
I don’t think I’ve ever seen Eskimo Pie here. Not since Maxibon came out, anyway.
They are still available, apparently.
http://www.peters.com.au/brands/eskimo-pie/
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
sibeen said:
I wonder what happens to the name ‘Eskimo Pie” in Australia?
I don’t think I’ve ever seen Eskimo Pie here. Not since Maxibon came out, anyway.
They are still available, apparently.
http://www.peters.com.au/brands/eskimo-pie/
Well there you go.
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
I wonder if anyone in the world still darns their socks.
I have never darned socks.
Neither have I but it used to be a common practice.
Well there are various sock-darning videos on Choob with many thousands of views, so it seems some are still bothering.
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
I wonder if anyone in the world still darns their socks.
I have never darned socks.
Neither have I but it used to be a common practice.
Nor I.
Sourdough bread still has twenty minutes to go but I’m hungryyyyyyy. Smells nice. This is the Parmesan & onion sourdough.
I’ll have some for lunch with and tomato and maybe grilled cheese.
Divine Angel said:
Sourdough bread still has twenty minutes to go but I’m hungryyyyyyy. Smells nice. This is the Parmesan & onion sourdough.I’ll have some for lunch with and tomato and maybe grilled cheese.
Sounds gratifying indeed.
I was feeling peckish so just had a ham and cheese croissant.
BTW, I love my air fryer :)
sibeen said:
I was feeling peckish so just had a ham and cheese croissant.BTW, I love my air fryer :)
…how have I never thought to do a croissant in the air fryer?!?
Bubblecar said:
I wonder if anyone in the world still darns their socks.
Interesting question. I haven’t done it for quite a while.
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
I wonder if anyone in the world still darns their socks.
Interesting question. I haven’t done it for quite a while.
Most socks probably aren’t worth it as they fall apart all over and just get binned/repurposed.
Divine Angel said:
sibeen said:
I was feeling peckish so just had a ham and cheese croissant.BTW, I love my air fryer :)
…how have I never thought to do a croissant in the air fryer?!?
3 minutes @ 150°.


Heidi’s photos from the bridge over Snug River further down the mountain.
6 inches on the mountain last night. Still raining.
sarahs mum said:
![]()
Heidi’s photos from the bridge over Snug River further down the mountain.
6 inches on the mountain last night. Still raining.
Divine Angel said:
sarahs mum said:
![]()
Heidi’s photos from the bridge over Snug River further down the mountain.
6 inches on the mountain last night. Still raining.
HOLY MOTHER OF GOD
ok. I finally got coffee.. I shouldn’t internet before coffee probably.
Arts said:
ok. I finally got coffee.. I shouldn’t internet before coffee probably.
Shop bought or home ?
sibeen said:
I was feeling peckish so just had a ham and cheese croissant.BTW, I love my air fryer :)
I have a questions about that… is is big enough for a family of four? because my people tell me that it’s not really but they don’t have a family of four.. or is there a particular brand I should think about?
sarahs mum said:
![]()
Heidi’s photos from the bridge over Snug River further down the mountain.
6 inches on the mountain last night. Still raining.
nature is healing
sarahs mum said:
Divine Angel said:
sarahs mum said:
![]()
Heidi’s photos from the bridge over Snug River further down the mountain.
6 inches on the mountain last night. Still raining.
HOLY MOTHER OF GOD
It’s been higher before. But it hasn’t been this high for a long time.
Note bubbles caused by saponins from the wattles.
Arts said:
sibeen said:
I was feeling peckish so just had a ham and cheese croissant.BTW, I love my air fryer :)
I have a questions about that… is is big enough for a family of four? because my people tell me that it’s not really but they don’t have a family of four.. or is there a particular brand I should think about?
Mine’s not big enough. It’s 3L. Aldi recently had 8L for the same price as 3L from say, Target etc.
Cymek said:
Arts said:
ok. I finally got coffee.. I shouldn’t internet before coffee probably.
Shop bought or home ?
home but I had to fast this morning for a blood test.. and my Nespresso is better than shop bought.
Arts said:
sibeen said:
I was feeling peckish so just had a ham and cheese croissant.BTW, I love my air fryer :)
I have a questions about that… is is big enough for a family of four? because my people tell me that it’s not really but they don’t have a family of four.. or is there a particular brand I should think about?
This was a cheapy. I think SWMBO lashed out and was profligate and spent about $70. We bought it as a ‘try and see what it is like’ type deal. We don’t cook family meals in it but it’s grouse for individual snacks.
Just had somebody call me said her name was Judy and a local, asked if I was all right. Told me that during covid, we are calling to see how people are. After a bit of questioning she finaly revealled that she wanted to give me solace by reading from the Bible.
I said thanks but I’ll be OK.
Divine Angel said:
Arts said:
sibeen said:
I was feeling peckish so just had a ham and cheese croissant.BTW, I love my air fryer :)
I have a questions about that… is is big enough for a family of four? because my people tell me that it’s not really but they don’t have a family of four.. or is there a particular brand I should think about?
Mine’s not big enough. It’s 3L. Aldi recently had 8L for the same price as 3L from say, Target etc.
would an 8L one be big enough?
Arts said:
Cymek said:
Arts said:
ok. I finally got coffee.. I shouldn’t internet before coffee probably.
Shop bought or home ?
home but I had to fast this morning for a blood test.. and my Nespresso is better than shop bought.
Wondering, has anybody tried the pod type coffee?
Would milk drip through a filter designed for water.
I’m thinking probably not but haven’t actually tried
roughbarked said:
Just had somebody call me said her name was Judy and a local, asked if I was all right. Told me that during covid, we are calling to see how people are. After a bit of questioning she finaly revealled that she wanted to give me solace by reading from the Bible.
I said thanks but I’ll be OK.
You idiot, you should have requested some real saucy bits from Leviticus. :)
So I was watching the Adam Lambert + Queen Tour Watch Party on YouTube and one of the songs featured the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders. I thought they had strict weight guidelines, but it seems they don’t. Or at least, they pretend they don’t.
https://www.dallascowboys.com/cheerleaders/faq
Arts said:
Divine Angel said:
Arts said:I have a questions about that… is is big enough for a family of four? because my people tell me that it’s not really but they don’t have a family of four.. or is there a particular brand I should think about?
Mine’s not big enough. It’s 3L. Aldi recently had 8L for the same price as 3L from say, Target etc.
would an 8L one be big enough?
Yes
roughbarked said:
Just had somebody call me said her name was Judy and a local, asked if I was all right. Told me that during covid, we are calling to see how people are. After a bit of questioning she finaly revealled that she wanted to give me solace by reading from the Bible.
I said thanks but I’ll be OK.
Judy “And god sent plague and pestilence to ravage the land cause he was mighty ticked off with some group of humans”
roughbarked “Thanks Judy that’s much better”
roughbarked said:
Arts said:
Cymek said:Shop bought or home ?
home but I had to fast this morning for a blood test.. and my Nespresso is better than shop bought.
Wondering, has anybody tried the pod type coffee?
like Nespresso is. yes
Song of Solomon, baby!
sarahs mum said:
![]()
Heidi’s photos from the bridge over Snug River further down the mountain.
6 inches on the mountain last night. Still raining.
Impressive.
We were promised a day and night of rain but got hardly any.
Divine Angel said:
Arts said:
Divine Angel said:Mine’s not big enough. It’s 3L. Aldi recently had 8L for the same price as 3L from say, Target etc.
would an 8L one be big enough?
Yes
ta.. I should look into it
sibeen said:
:) A pity, the thought didn’t cross my mind.
roughbarked said:
Just had somebody call me said her name was Judy and a local, asked if I was all right. Told me that during covid, we are calling to see how people are. After a bit of questioning she finaly revealled that she wanted to give me solace by reading from the Bible.
I said thanks but I’ll be OK.
You idiot, you should have requested some real saucy bits from Leviticus. :)
Cymek said:
Would milk drip through a filter designed for water.
I’m thinking probably not but haven’t actually tried
To make Latte?
Arts said:
roughbarked said:
Arts said:home but I had to fast this morning for a blood test.. and my Nespresso is better than shop bought.
Wondering, has anybody tried the pod type coffee?
like Nespresso is. yes
A friend gave me a machine. So I need to try the recommended pods. 1 vote Nespresso.
Rule 303 said:
Cymek said:
Would milk drip through a filter designed for water.
I’m thinking probably not but haven’t actually tried
To make Latte?
Would it not drip through a coffee filter?
roughbarked said:
Arts said:
Cymek said:Shop bought or home ?
home but I had to fast this morning for a blood test.. and my Nespresso is better than shop bought.
Wondering, has anybody tried the pod type coffee?
Yes.
roughbarked said:
Arts said:
Cymek said:Shop bought or home ?
home but I had to fast this morning for a blood test.. and my Nespresso is better than shop bought.
Wondering, has anybody tried the pod type coffee?
Only weather girls.
roughbarked said:
Arts said:
roughbarked said:Wondering, has anybody tried the pod type coffee?
like Nespresso is. yes
A friend gave me a machine. So I need to try the recommended pods. 1 vote Nespresso.
You need to get pods that are compatible with your machine. Nespresso is just one brand on the market. I have a different brand and their pods wont fit in mine.
Aren’t used coffee pods supposed to be environmentally iffy – take a zillion years to decompose or somesuch.
Cymek said:
Would milk drip through a filter designed for water.
I’m thinking probably not but haven’t actually tried
roughbarked said:
Arts said:
roughbarked said:Wondering, has anybody tried the pod type coffee?
like Nespresso is. yes
A friend gave me a machine. So I need to try the recommended pods. 1 vote Nespresso.
what sort of machine is it? brand
Rule 303 said:
Cymek said:
Would milk drip through a filter designed for water.
I’m thinking probably not but haven’t actually tried
To make Latte?
Cold drip coffee
The water sits in the top section and drips through a metal filter into the coffee grounds and then into another filter and then into the collection chamber
I normally mix it with milk but was wondering if you could do it straight into milk
Neophyte said:
Aren’t used coffee pods supposed to be environmentally iffy – take a zillion years to decompose or somesuch.
yes.. Nespresso has a recycling program going on… you put all the used pods into a bag they give you and return them to a store.. then they recycle them… I don’t know how, or in what capacity and I have never looked it up… but it’s in their company policy .. and if you can’t trust a huge corporation, then who can you trust?
party_pants said:
roughbarked said:
Arts said:like Nespresso is. yes
A friend gave me a machine. So I need to try the recommended pods. 1 vote Nespresso.
You need to get pods that are compatible with your machine. Nespresso is just one brand on the market. I have a different brand and their pods wont fit in mine.
Says that Vittoroio fits. https://www.espressotoria.com.au/how-to-guide/capino/
Neophyte said:
Aren’t used coffee pods supposed to be environmentally iffy – take a zillion years to decompose or somesuch.
That’s my main issue.
Arts said:
Neophyte said:
Aren’t used coffee pods supposed to be environmentally iffy – take a zillion years to decompose or somesuch.
yes.. Nespresso has a recycling program going on… you put all the used pods into a bag they give you and return them to a store.. then they recycle them… I don’t know how, or in what capacity and I have never looked it up… but it’s in their company policy .. and if you can’t trust a huge corporation, then who can you trust?
:) Like Woollies and Coles are tracked to landfill on War on Waste?
roughbarked said:
party_pants said:
roughbarked said:A friend gave me a machine. So I need to try the recommended pods. 1 vote Nespresso.
You need to get pods that are compatible with your machine. Nespresso is just one brand on the market. I have a different brand and their pods wont fit in mine.
Says that Vittoroio fits. https://www.espressotoria.com.au/how-to-guide/capino/
oh you just get them from he supermarket… there are ‘sustainable’ pods around too.. ones that allegedly decompose and you can add them to your compost or something… I have tried them, but my Nespresso machine did not like them at all and I think using the non compatible pods contributed to the machine breaking (that was a tough few hours). But Nepresso are a bit precious and my current machine reads something on the pod that tells it how much water to dispense for the different size pods… so I suspect that any generic pod will also show up and head office will implode the machine remotely.
But for yours isn’t at all like that, so perhaps get one box of brand so you can see the size and shape of the pods, then give it a goog and see what you come up with.
roughbarked said:
party_pants said:
roughbarked said:A friend gave me a machine. So I need to try the recommended pods. 1 vote Nespresso.
You need to get pods that are compatible with your machine. Nespresso is just one brand on the market. I have a different brand and their pods wont fit in mine.
Says that Vittoroio fits. https://www.espressotoria.com.au/how-to-guide/capino/
These are relatively easily available. Most supermarkets (at least in the cities) stock them. They come a few different flavours.
Arts said:
roughbarked said:
party_pants said:You need to get pods that are compatible with your machine. Nespresso is just one brand on the market. I have a different brand and their pods wont fit in mine.
Says that Vittoroio fits. https://www.espressotoria.com.au/how-to-guide/capino/
oh you just get them from he supermarket… there are ‘sustainable’ pods around too.. ones that allegedly decompose and you can add them to your compost or something… I have tried them, but my Nespresso machine did not like them at all and I think using the non compatible pods contributed to the machine breaking (that was a tough few hours). But Nepresso are a bit precious and my current machine reads something on the pod that tells it how much water to dispense for the different size pods… so I suspect that any generic pod will also show up and head office will implode the machine remotely.
But for yours isn’t at all like that, so perhaps get one box of brand so you can see the size and shape of the pods, then give it a goog and see what you come up with.
I got a new machine last week as my old one was giving up the ghost after about 8 years. The new machine is a Nepresso and I’ve put generic pods through without an issue.

https://medium.com/@antonyeagle/changes-to-australian-higher-education-funding-an-attack-on-expertise-89b1659e845
sibeen said:
Arts said:
roughbarked said:Says that Vittoroio fits. https://www.espressotoria.com.au/how-to-guide/capino/
oh you just get them from he supermarket… there are ‘sustainable’ pods around too.. ones that allegedly decompose and you can add them to your compost or something… I have tried them, but my Nespresso machine did not like them at all and I think using the non compatible pods contributed to the machine breaking (that was a tough few hours). But Nepresso are a bit precious and my current machine reads something on the pod that tells it how much water to dispense for the different size pods… so I suspect that any generic pod will also show up and head office will implode the machine remotely.
But for yours isn’t at all like that, so perhaps get one box of brand so you can see the size and shape of the pods, then give it a goog and see what you come up with.
I got a new machine last week as my old one was giving up the ghost after about 8 years. The new machine is a Nepresso and I’ve put generic pods through without an issue.
you monster.

dv said:
Probably got patchouli in it.
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
sibeen said:
I wonder what happens to the name ‘Eskimo Pie” in Australia?
I don’t think I’ve ever seen Eskimo Pie here. Not since Maxibon came out, anyway.
They are still available, apparently.
http://www.peters.com.au/brands/eskimo-pie/
Ooh, l like Eskimo Pies. Haven’t had one for a very long time though. You can still get Hearts too. I have had one of those in the last few months.
sarahs mum said:
![]()
Heidi’s photos from the bridge over Snug River further down the mountain.
6 inches on the mountain last night. Still raining.
Hmm, the river at Neika will be up and rumbling too then.
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:
Divine Angel said:HOLY MOTHER OF GOD
It’s been higher before. But it hasn’t been this high for a long time.
Note bubbles caused by saponins from the wattles.
I’ve got gum trees that make bubblebaths at their feet.
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:
![]()
Heidi’s photos from the bridge over Snug River further down the mountain.
6 inches on the mountain last night. Still raining.
Hmm, the river at Neika will be up and rumbling too then.
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:
sarahs mum said:It’s been higher before. But it hasn’t been this high for a long time.
Note bubbles caused by saponins from the wattles.
I’ve got gum trees that make bubblebaths at their feet.
:) I suppose some of ours do too. The big soapy one is the blackwood. But there isnt any of them in this valley.
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:Note bubbles caused by saponins from the wattles.
I’ve got gum trees that make bubblebaths at their feet.
:) I suppose some of ours do too. The big soapy one is the blackwood. But there isnt any of them in this valley.
The gums here are the bluegums. I think they are Tassie bluegums, but I’m not sure.
Rule 303 said:
dv said:
One day, the last SSSF regular will die.
How are you so confident of this? There’s a non-zero possibility that one of our regulars will invent the technology that will end human death.
I think that it would be difficult to surviving the decay of all baryons so I do not anticipate any forummers suriving 10 200 years.
North West Bay River at Margate is on its way back down again by the look of this:
https://portal.wrt.tas.gov.au/Data/DataSet/Interval/Latest
Not sure if you can get in there straight from that link. I had to accept disclaimers about them not taking responsibility for my stupidity etc.
dv said:
Rule 303 said:
dv said:
One day, the last SSSF regular will die.
How are you so confident of this? There’s a non-zero possibility that one of our regulars will invent the technology that will end human death.
I think that it would be difficult to surviving the decay of all baryons so I do not anticipate any forummers suriving 10 200 years.
Quitter talk.
dv said:
Rule 303 said:
dv said:
One day, the last SSSF regular will die.
How are you so confident of this? There’s a non-zero possibility that one of our regulars will invent the technology that will end human death.
I think that it would be difficult to surviving the decay of all baryons so I do not anticipate any forummers suriving 10 200 years.
I’d go so far as suggesting that the time period where there is at least one regular at this forum might well be a good bit less than that.
Neophyte said:
Aren’t used coffee pods supposed to be environmentally iffy – take a zillion years to decompose or somesuch.
yep, though i think there is some recycling scheme. don’t use them myself. buy beans. grind beans. put them into the group head. whack the hot water through.
dv said:
Rule 303 said:
dv said:
One day, the last SSSF regular will die.
How are you so confident of this? There’s a non-zero possibility that one of our regulars will invent the technology that will end human death.
I think that it would be difficult to surviving the decay of all baryons so I do not anticipate any forummers suriving 10 200 years.
that’s a lot of birthdays!
the word “maze” comes from the german mazenwackeliguntergang. Meaning Prison of squiggly doom.
JudgeMental said:
Neophyte said:
Aren’t used coffee pods supposed to be environmentally iffy – take a zillion years to decompose or somesuch.
yep, though i think there is some recycling scheme. don’t use them myself. buy beans. grind beans. put them into the group head. whack the hot water through.
Group head?
I smell like a two-stroke exhaust mixed with cut grass, that time of year
sarahs mum said:
![]()
Heidi’s photos from the bridge over Snug River further down the mountain.
6 inches on the mountain last night. Still raining.
:)
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
![]()
Heidi’s photos from the bridge over Snug River further down the mountain.
6 inches on the mountain last night. Still raining.
:)
12 inches for me baby
roughbarked said:
JudgeMental said:
Neophyte said:
Aren’t used coffee pods supposed to be environmentally iffy – take a zillion years to decompose or somesuch.
yep, though i think there is some recycling scheme. don’t use them myself. buy beans. grind beans. put them into the group head. whack the hot water through.
Group head?

JudgeMental said:
Neophyte said:
Aren’t used coffee pods supposed to be environmentally iffy – take a zillion years to decompose or somesuch.
yep, though i think there is some recycling scheme. don’t use them myself. buy beans. grind beans. put them into the group head. whack the hot water through.
According to Vittorio;
Recycling Coffee Capsules & Pods
Our Espressotoria capsule range is completely recyclable after you remove the coffee and lid. Once capsules have been used, remove the lid of the capsule and empty the coffee grind into a compost bin. The capsule lid must be discarded and the capsule shell can be placed in the recycle bin.JudgeMental said:
roughbarked said:
JudgeMental said:yep, though i think there is some recycling scheme. don’t use them myself. buy beans. grind beans. put them into the group head. whack the hot water through.
Group head?
Yar. OK I put it in a stove top percolator.
roughbarked said:
JudgeMental said:
Neophyte said:
Aren’t used coffee pods supposed to be environmentally iffy – take a zillion years to decompose or somesuch.
yep, though i think there is some recycling scheme. don’t use them myself. buy beans. grind beans. put them into the group head. whack the hot water through.
According to Vittorio;
Recycling Coffee Capsules & Pods
Our Espressotoria capsule range is completely recyclable after you remove the coffee and lid. Once capsules have been used, remove the lid of the capsule and empty the coffee grind into a compost bin. The capsule lid must be discarded and the capsule shell can be placed in the recycle bin.
I thought everything that went into the ‘Recycling’ bins of Australia went to land fill?
dv said:
:)
Far would work even better, I think.
Rule 303 said:
roughbarked said:
JudgeMental said:yep, though i think there is some recycling scheme. don’t use them myself. buy beans. grind beans. put them into the group head. whack the hot water through.
According to Vittorio;
Recycling Coffee Capsules & Pods
Our Espressotoria capsule range is completely recyclable after you remove the coffee and lid. Once capsules have been used, remove the lid of the capsule and empty the coffee grind into a compost bin. The capsule lid must be discarded and the capsule shell can be placed in the recycle bin.I thought everything that went into the ‘Recycling’ bins of Australia went to land fill?
The aluminium doesn’t.
JudgeMental said:
the word “maze” comes from the german mazenwackeliguntergang. Meaning Prison of squiggly doom.
Factoid…

ABC Hobart
· 1 hr ·
It’s back! ❤️ 🌧️
The crystal clear waters of the Disappearing Tarn on Hobart’s kunanyi/Mount Wellington are back after the heavy rainfall.
Jemina Stuart-Smith walked in at 7am from The Springs this morning to get this incredible shot … will you go exploring soon to see it?
sarahs mum said:
![]()
ABC Hobart
· 1 hr ·It’s back! ❤️ 🌧️
The crystal clear waters of the Disappearing Tarn on Hobart’s kunanyi/Mount Wellington are back after the heavy rainfall.
Jemina Stuart-Smith walked in at 7am from The Springs this morning to get this incredible shot … will you go exploring soon to see it?
Pretty.
No I won’t, sorry.
Michael V said:
JudgeMental said:
the word “maze” comes from the german mazenwackeliguntergang. Meaning Prison of squiggly doom.
Factoid…
It would be Gefängniswackeluntergang. Actually the wackel should come first and the Gefängnis last. With an s after the Untergang hehe to clarify the relationship to the Gefängnis…says Heidi.
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:
JudgeMental said:
the word “maze” comes from the german mazenwackeliguntergang. Meaning Prison of squiggly doom.
Factoid…
It would be Gefängniswackeluntergang. Actually the wackel should come first and the Gefängnis last. With an s after the Untergang hehe to clarify the relationship to the Gefängnis…says Heidi.
But…it did make her laff.
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
![]()
ABC Hobart
· 1 hr ·It’s back! ❤️ 🌧️
The crystal clear waters of the Disappearing Tarn on Hobart’s kunanyi/Mount Wellington are back after the heavy rainfall.
Jemina Stuart-Smith walked in at 7am from The Springs this morning to get this incredible shot … will you go exploring soon to see it?
Pretty.
No I won’t, sorry.
Me neither.
JudgeMental said:
the word “maze” comes from the german mazenwackeliguntergang. Meaning Prison of squiggly doom.
It would be amazing if that were true.
The Rev Dodgson said:
JudgeMental said:
the word “maze” comes from the german mazenwackeliguntergang. Meaning Prison of squiggly doom.
It would be amazing if that were true.
But to be fair, the Internet confirms that the word mazenwackeliguntergang has actually been used by Germans.
sarahs mum said:
![]()
ABC Hobart
· 1 hr ·It’s back! ❤️ 🌧️
The crystal clear waters of the Disappearing Tarn on Hobart’s kunanyi/Mount Wellington are back after the heavy rainfall.
Jemina Stuart-Smith walked in at 7am from The Springs this morning to get this incredible shot … will you go exploring soon to see it?
I would expect that to be murkier with fresh runoff.
The Rev Dodgson said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
JudgeMental said:
the word “maze” comes from the german mazenwackeliguntergang. Meaning Prison of squiggly doom.
It would be amazing if that were true.
But to be fair, the Internet confirms that the word mazenwackeliguntergang has actually been used by Germans.
Germans, you can’t trust Germans.
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:
![]()
ABC Hobart
· 1 hr ·It’s back! ❤️ 🌧️
The crystal clear waters of the Disappearing Tarn on Hobart’s kunanyi/Mount Wellington are back after the heavy rainfall.
Jemina Stuart-Smith walked in at 7am from The Springs this morning to get this incredible shot … will you go exploring soon to see it?
I would expect that to be murkier with fresh runoff.
I reckon it is a spring.
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:
![]()
ABC Hobart
· 1 hr ·It’s back! ❤️ 🌧️
The crystal clear waters of the Disappearing Tarn on Hobart’s kunanyi/Mount Wellington are back after the heavy rainfall.
Jemina Stuart-Smith walked in at 7am from The Springs this morning to get this incredible shot … will you go exploring soon to see it?
I would expect that to be murkier with fresh runoff.
Probably fills from the bottom up?
sarahs mum said:
![]()
ABC Hobart
· 1 hr ·It’s back! ❤️ 🌧️
The crystal clear waters of the Disappearing Tarn on Hobart’s kunanyi/Mount Wellington are back after the heavy rainfall.
Jemina Stuart-Smith walked in at 7am from The Springs this morning to get this incredible shot … will you go exploring soon to see it?
Lovely.
Peak Warming Man said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
The Rev Dodgson said:It would be amazing if that were true.
But to be fair, the Internet confirms that the word mazenwackeliguntergang has actually been used by Germans.
Germans, you can’t trust Germans.
we used to keep a gerry under the bed when we lived in england.
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:
![]()
ABC Hobart
· 1 hr ·It’s back! ❤️ 🌧️
The crystal clear waters of the Disappearing Tarn on Hobart’s kunanyi/Mount Wellington are back after the heavy rainfall.
Jemina Stuart-Smith walked in at 7am from The Springs this morning to get this incredible shot … will you go exploring soon to see it?
I would expect that to be murkier with fresh runoff.
I reckon it is a spring.
Yes, but there was soooo much rain, there has to have been runoff as well to murkify it?
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:I would expect that to be murkier with fresh runoff.
I reckon it is a spring.
Yes, but there was soooo much rain, there has to have been runoff as well to murkify it?
no bubbles there.
Just got up to the Redoubt and whiled driving up to the shack I got bailed up by three blokes on horseback.
Not locals they were from miles away up Vinegar Hill way, they were looking for lost cattle.
I asked them about Lucky and son and they hadn’t seen her but there are rumours of her and son up that way.
That’s horse country, might have to get me one of them.
JudgeMental said:
the word “maze” comes from the german mazenwackeliguntergang. Meaning Prison of squiggly doom.
it comes from the Old English mæs
dv said:
JudgeMental said:
the word “maze” comes from the german mazenwackeliguntergang. Meaning Prison of squiggly doom.
it comes from the Old English mæs
Maybe.
(At least The Internet said maybe. It does seem pretty likely to me).
The Internet seemed very quiet yesterday.
Was it a holiday somewhere?
On this day in 1949, American film actress Meryl Streep was born in Summit, New Jersey. Streep holds the record for the most Academy Award nominations (21) of any actor and has won three Oscars over the course of her 40-year career.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-23/dyson-heydon-sexual-harassment-complainants-seek-compensation/12383978
Has anyone got any idea what form the harassment took? I’ve not seen or heard any inkling.
The Rev Dodgson said:
The Internet seemed very quiet yesterday.Was it a holiday somewhere?
OK, the World was celebrating this guy:
Aaron of Aleth
The Rev Dodgson said:
The Internet seemed very quiet yesterday.Was it a holiday somewhere?
It Was The China Hackers Breaking Australia Again
dv said:
JudgeMental said:
the word “maze” comes from the german mazenwackeliguntergang. Meaning Prison of squiggly doom.
it comes from the Old English mæs
german is old english.
;-)
JudgeMental said:
dv said:
JudgeMental said:
the word “maze” comes from the german mazenwackeliguntergang. Meaning Prison of squiggly doom.
it comes from the Old English mæs
german is old english.
;-)
sounds corny
Finally, some good news.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-23/nsw-education-curriculum-overhaul-within-four-years/12381754
It comes after a two-year review conducted by Professor Geoff Masters, which was highly critical of the current syllabus and its “crowded nature”.
The new curriculum will involve kindergarten to Year 12 and is proposing a “back to basics” approach, focusing on the fundamentals of maths, English and science.
Professor Master’s [fully sic[k]] report said the new syllabuses are designed to address concerns raised with the review about the need to prioritise depth rather than breadth of learning, to better integrate knowledge and skills, and to provide greater flexibility for teachers.
SCIENCE said:
Finally, some good news.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-23/nsw-education-curriculum-overhaul-within-four-years/12381754
It comes after a two-year review conducted by Professor Geoff Masters, which was highly critical of the current syllabus and its “crowded nature”.
The new curriculum will involve kindergarten to Year 12 and is proposing a “back to basics” approach, focusing on the fundamentals of maths, English and science.
Professor Master’s [fully sic[k]] report said the new syllabuses are designed to address concerns raised with the review about the need to prioritise depth rather than breadth of learning, to better integrate knowledge and skills, and to provide greater flexibility for teachers.
He’ll probably want to make tennis compulsory in schools.
Just chainsawed a stack of wood, it’s going to be a cold one tonight, flurries of snow, apparently.
Peak Warming Man said:
Just chainsawed a stack of wood, it’s going to be a cold one tonight, flurries of snow, apparently.
I thought your redoubt was one the warm sunlit uplands.
https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2020/jun/22/experts-call-for-regulation-after-latest-botched-art-restoration-in-spain
party_pants said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Just chainsawed a stack of wood, it’s going to be a cold one tonight, flurries of snow, apparently.
I thought your redoubt was one the warm sunlit uplands.
When the sun shines, yeah.
party_pants said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Just chainsawed a stack of wood, it’s going to be a cold one tonight, flurries of snow, apparently.
I thought your redoubt was one the warm sunlit uplands.
e
on the warm sunlit uplands.
party_pants said:
party_pants said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Just chainsawed a stack of wood, it’s going to be a cold one tonight, flurries of snow, apparently.
I thought your redoubt was one the warm sunlit uplands.
eon the warm sunlit uplands.
and that was supposed to be an e with a line through it,
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/jun/22/vast-neolithic-circle-of-deep-shafts-found-near-stonehenge
I’ve got an egg. Gytha has laid her first egg of the season. I thought Lizza would be first, as she moulted well ahead of Gytha.
sarahs mum said:
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/jun/22/vast-neolithic-circle-of-deep-shafts-found-near-stonehenge
Take That You Statue Pulling Revisionists History Will Never Disappear
buffy said:
I’ve got an egg. Gytha has laid her first egg of the season. I thought Lizza would be first, as she moulted well ahead of Gytha.
She was the mother of King Harold Godwinson ?
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
I’ve got an egg. Gytha has laid her first egg of the season. I thought Lizza would be first, as she moulted well ahead of Gytha.She was the mother of King Harold Godwinson ?
She is Gytha Ogg. One of the Discworld witches. The one who enjoys a bit of fun and has red boots.
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:
![]()
ABC Hobart
· 1 hr ·It’s back! ❤️ 🌧️
The crystal clear waters of the Disappearing Tarn on Hobart’s kunanyi/Mount Wellington are back after the heavy rainfall.
Jemina Stuart-Smith walked in at 7am from The Springs this morning to get this incredible shot … will you go exploring soon to see it?
I would expect that to be murkier with fresh runoff.
I reckon it is a spring.
Effectively a short-term spring.
A rise in the water table due to rainwater percolating through rocks with lots of vertical cracks.
sarahs mum said:
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/jun/22/vast-neolithic-circle-of-deep-shafts-found-near-stonehenge
Very interesting.
The Rev Dodgson said:
sarahs mum said:
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/jun/22/vast-neolithic-circle-of-deep-shafts-found-near-stonehenge
Very interesting.
Yes. I’d just read this beforehand.
Thanks for reminding me. I heard this on the car radio and meant to read a bit more.
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:I would expect that to be murkier with fresh runoff.
I reckon it is a spring.
Effectively a short-term spring.
A rise in the water table due to rainwater percolating through rocks with lots of vertical cracks.
But Buffy is right about the surprising colour. It does look like the colour of glacial runoff.
sarahs mum said:
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/jun/22/vast-neolithic-circle-of-deep-shafts-found-near-stonehenge
Interesting, thanks.

Mrs Ohio just travelled through 5 states and says she has never seen so many pro Trump messages. She bought this souvenir for herself in Indiana.
sarahs mum said:
![]()
Mrs Ohio just travelled through 5 states and says she has never seen so many pro Trump messages. She bought this souvenir for herself in Indiana.
My kind of people, smart and patriotic
I watched an interesting doco last night about the Miami Showband massacre.. I had no idea it was even a thing.. it was very interesting in terms of their (forced) role in the conflict in Ireland. Of which my knowledge extends from some short news reports that my dad used to watch back in the day when I was a young child to some light conversations with an Irish friend in school to whatever they referenced about it in the TV show Derry Girls. I can’t afford the time to take a deep dive into google yet, but it’s now on the list.
some of mower decompressor (goes on camshaft, new one shown inset), recovered from bottom of crankcase
hardly worth mentioning maybe, except very likely lots of them junked around the country with problems starting, a person could easily mistake it for engine seizure
The-Spectator said:
sarahs mum said:
![]()
Mrs Ohio just travelled through 5 states and says she has never seen so many pro Trump messages. She bought this souvenir for herself in Indiana.
My kind of people, smart and patriotic
I have forgotten where I heard or read it lately but it went something like that Trump supporters will ignore mostly anything Trum pdoes or what effect it has on them as long as the ‘others’ get hurt.
Arts said:
I watched an interesting doco last night about the Miami Showband massacre.. I had no idea it was even a thing.. it was very interesting in terms of their (forced) role in the conflict in Ireland. Of which my knowledge extends from some short news reports that my dad used to watch back in the day when I was a young child to some light conversations with an Irish friend in school to whatever they referenced about it in the TV show Derry Girls. I can’t afford the time to take a deep dive into google yet, but it’s now on the list.
Nup, hadn’t heard of that one. Just skimmed the Wikipedia piece about it.
I’ve been jumping through hoops and running in circles. Setting up an account to publish/print my novel, which means TFNs and ABNs and BSBs. But then I discovered my ABN had been cancelled, so I had to reapply.
That’s before the fun of uploading and designing the book and its cover. I’m currently going through for a final edit/format, but I hear KDP has issues with Mac so I might have to wait until I have more than half an hour computer use at the library. Sigh.
Arts said:
I watched an interesting doco last night about the Miami Showband massacre.. I had no idea it was even a thing.. it was very interesting in terms of their (forced) role in the conflict in Ireland. Of which my knowledge extends from some short news reports that my dad used to watch back in the day when I was a young child to some light conversations with an Irish friend in school to whatever they referenced about it in the TV show Derry Girls. I can’t afford the time to take a deep dive into google yet, but it’s now on the list.
A very fucked time.
buffy said:
Arts said:
I watched an interesting doco last night about the Miami Showband massacre.. I had no idea it was even a thing.. it was very interesting in terms of their (forced) role in the conflict in Ireland. Of which my knowledge extends from some short news reports that my dad used to watch back in the day when I was a young child to some light conversations with an Irish friend in school to whatever they referenced about it in the TV show Derry Girls. I can’t afford the time to take a deep dive into google yet, but it’s now on the list.
Nup, hadn’t heard of that one. Just skimmed the Wikipedia piece about it.
Me neither and I just did the same. Sounds dreadful.
Oh, and we got a key in the letterbox. Doesn’t belong to our front door. Wonder how long it’s been in there? It was pushed into the far corner.
lady’s got chocolate biscuits from the fridge, in her hand, heading back to the fridge
looks at me very briefly and says don’t want one
no there was no question mark on the end of it, not even a muted one
both chuckled, I got my biscuit
Divine Angel said:
Oh, and we got a key in the letterbox. Doesn’t belong to our front door. Wonder how long it’s been in there? It was pushed into the far corner.
Someone told the mum about key parties.
sibeen said:
Arts said:
I watched an interesting doco last night about the Miami Showband massacre.. I had no idea it was even a thing.. it was very interesting in terms of their (forced) role in the conflict in Ireland. Of which my knowledge extends from some short news reports that my dad used to watch back in the day when I was a young child to some light conversations with an Irish friend in school to whatever they referenced about it in the TV show Derry Girls. I can’t afford the time to take a deep dive into google yet, but it’s now on the list.
A very fucked time.
seems so… I mean it seems like there were no clear lines on anything… agents, double agents, triple agents. I’m kind of looking forward to reading more about it.
WA pubs to fully reopen on Saturday. But interstate borders remain restricted.
A pub is Rockingham is offering a free meal on Saturday to anyone named Mark, in honour of Mark McGowan the premier, who also happens to be the local MP for that district.
Arts said:
sibeen said:
Arts said:
I watched an interesting doco last night about the Miami Showband massacre.. I had no idea it was even a thing.. it was very interesting in terms of their (forced) role in the conflict in Ireland. Of which my knowledge extends from some short news reports that my dad used to watch back in the day when I was a young child to some light conversations with an Irish friend in school to whatever they referenced about it in the TV show Derry Girls. I can’t afford the time to take a deep dive into google yet, but it’s now on the list.
A very fucked time.
seems so… I mean it seems like there were no clear lines on anything… agents, double agents, triple agents. I’m kind of looking forward to reading more about it.
I find this sort of stuff too depressing to read up on in too much detail.
party_pants said:
WA pubs to fully reopen on Saturday. But interstate borders remain restricted.A pub is Rockingham is offering a free meal on Saturday to anyone named Mark, in honour of Mark McGowan the premier, who also happens to be the local MP for that district.
that popular eh, it’s almost as if getting good pandemic control is a boon for political capital
SCIENCE said:
party_pants said:
WA pubs to fully reopen on Saturday. But interstate borders remain restricted.A pub is Rockingham is offering a free meal on Saturday to anyone named Mark, in honour of Mark McGowan the premier, who also happens to be the local MP for that district.
that popular eh, it’s almost as if getting good pandemic control is a boon for political capital
The opposition leader over here is a very poor performer. She has made a few “captain’s calls” without telling the rest of her party about it. Which have gone down badly with the public and her own party.
It seems that there is quite strong local support for keeping the borders closed/restricted as they are.
Hmmmmm….

in breaking news
Blame China The Hackers Have Crashed NSW Health
party_pants said:
SCIENCE said:
party_pants said:
WA pubs to fully reopen on Saturday. But interstate borders remain restricted.A pub is Rockingham is offering a free meal on Saturday to anyone named Mark, in honour of Mark McGowan the premier, who also happens to be the local MP for that district.
that popular eh, it’s almost as if getting good pandemic control is a boon for political capital
The opposition leader over here is a very poor performer. She has made a few “captain’s calls” without telling the rest of her party about it. Which have gone down badly with the public and her own party.
It seems that there is quite strong local support for keeping the borders closed/restricted as they are.
I think there fairly strong support in Qld for keeping the borders closed for a while longer, too. I know a few people who are touring around, deliberately spending money in places hard-hit economically (as they assess it).
SCIENCE said:
in breaking newsBlame China The Hackers Have Crashed NSW Health
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/nsw-hospitals-electronic-systems-and-patient-records-knocked-out-20200623-p555br.html
JudgeMental said:
Hmmmmm….
the lady who repainted the Christ sculpture does hairdressing.
Arts said:
sibeen said:
Arts said:
I watched an interesting doco last night about the Miami Showband massacre.. I had no idea it was even a thing.. it was very interesting in terms of their (forced) role in the conflict in Ireland. Of which my knowledge extends from some short news reports that my dad used to watch back in the day when I was a young child to some light conversations with an Irish friend in school to whatever they referenced about it in the TV show Derry Girls. I can’t afford the time to take a deep dive into google yet, but it’s now on the list.
A very fucked time.
seems so… I mean it seems like there were no clear lines on anything… agents, double agents, triple agents. I’m kind of looking forward to reading more about it.
I think it was a very big mess.
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
in breaking newsBlame China The Hackers Have Crashed NSW Health
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/nsw-hospitals-electronic-systems-and-patient-records-knocked-out-20200623-p555br.html
I wonder with a large concerted effort involving thousands of hackers could you crash most of our systems.
It seems to be small scale attacks for the most part, is it just to retaliate when we liken Chinese leaders to Winnie The Poo or a prelude to a full scale attack one day.
We know they are doing it, they know we know its them but we can’t actually do anything except accuse and then they act all indignant.
Food report. I had a very good looking leek ready to pull. So I pulled it and potato and leek soup is presently simmering. There will be a grilled pork chop each as well. It’s perhaps an odd sort of meal, but it’s got meat and veg.
And there is some chocolate custard left for dessert.
Cymek said:
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
in breaking newsBlame China The Hackers Have Crashed NSW Health
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/nsw-hospitals-electronic-systems-and-patient-records-knocked-out-20200623-p555br.html
I wonder with a large concerted effort involving thousands of hackers could you crash most of our systems.
It seems to be small scale attacks for the most part, is it just to retaliate when we liken Chinese leaders to Winnie The Poo or a prelude to a full scale attack one day.
We know they are doing it, they know we know its them but we can’t actually do anything except accuse and then they act all indignant.
It reads like a putting all ones eggs in one basket type problem to me. Backup, people, backup. I’m the luddite around here, and I know about backup.
buffy said:
Cymek said:
SCIENCE said:https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/nsw-hospitals-electronic-systems-and-patient-records-knocked-out-20200623-p555br.html
I wonder with a large concerted effort involving thousands of hackers could you crash most of our systems.
It seems to be small scale attacks for the most part, is it just to retaliate when we liken Chinese leaders to Winnie The Poo or a prelude to a full scale attack one day.
We know they are doing it, they know we know its them but we can’t actually do anything except accuse and then they act all indignant.
It reads like a putting all ones eggs in one basket type problem to me. Backup, people, backup. I’m the luddite around here, and I know about backup.
That info would be backed up.
JudgeMental said:
buffy said:
Cymek said:I wonder with a large concerted effort involving thousands of hackers could you crash most of our systems.
It seems to be small scale attacks for the most part, is it just to retaliate when we liken Chinese leaders to Winnie The Poo or a prelude to a full scale attack one day.
We know they are doing it, they know we know its them but we can’t actually do anything except accuse and then they act all indignant.
It reads like a putting all ones eggs in one basket type problem to me. Backup, people, backup. I’m the luddite around here, and I know about backup.
That info would be backed up.
Yup. And the systems need backup too. Redundancy in the system for just such a situation.
buffy said:
JudgeMental said:
buffy said:It reads like a putting all ones eggs in one basket type problem to me. Backup, people, backup. I’m the luddite around here, and I know about backup.
That info would be backed up.
Yup. And the systems need backup too. Redundancy in the system for just such a situation.
the use of that would depend on how easy it is to switch in a whole new lot of servers i guess.
JudgeMental said:
buffy said:
JudgeMental said:That info would be backed up.
Yup. And the systems need backup too. Redundancy in the system for just such a situation.
the use of that would depend on how easy it is to switch in a whole new lot of servers i guess.
That would help for DDOS attacks as well as general hacking for information gain/destruction
JudgeMental said:
buffy said:
JudgeMental said:That info would be backed up.
Yup. And the systems need backup too. Redundancy in the system for just such a situation.
the use of that would depend on how easy it is to switch in a whole new lot of servers i guess.
And I guess that depends on how much you value the information. For patients in hospital, I’d say it’s pretty important for the doctors to be able to access.
Went to the dog park. Lots of other dogs there, some of which Jellybean already knew. One lady had a little fluffy thing, dunno what it was. Cute as a button, reddish eyes, soft orangey fur. Lady asked how old Mini Me is, so I told her. She then asks why I didn’t have another, then says there’s no point having another at this stage because the age gap means they won’t play. I politely tell her to mind her own business. Moments later, a boxer dog attacks her dog. We’d already established that this boxer was 11 years old.
The boxer had been growling at this puppy (12 months old) and lost its temper when puppy wouldn’t stop jumping on him. Puppy ends up with a cut nose and teeth marks in its shoulder. Lady goes berserk, telling the owner that her dog needs to be put to sleep, it’s a dangerous dog, it could have attacked my child, she should really think about her choices for this dog.
Lady then scoops up her pup and leaves, shouting behind her that this dangerous dog probably has cancer and is in pain and needs to be put to sleep.
So that was fun.
Divine Angel said:
Went to the dog park. Lots of other dogs there, some of which Jellybean already knew. One lady had a little fluffy thing, dunno what it was. Cute as a button, reddish eyes, soft orangey fur. Lady asked how old Mini Me is, so I told her. She then asks why I didn’t have another, then says there’s no point having another at this stage because the age gap means they won’t play. I politely tell her to mind her own business. Moments later, a boxer dog attacks her dog. We’d already established that this boxer was 11 years old.The boxer had been growling at this puppy (12 months old) and lost its temper when puppy wouldn’t stop jumping on him. Puppy ends up with a cut nose and teeth marks in its shoulder. Lady goes berserk, telling the owner that her dog needs to be put to sleep, it’s a dangerous dog, it could have attacked my child, she should really think about her choices for this dog.
Lady then scoops up her pup and leaves, shouting behind her that this dangerous dog probably has cancer and is in pain and needs to be put to sleep.
So that was fun.
Needs more character development.
sarahs mum said:
Divine Angel said:
Went to the dog park. Lots of other dogs there, some of which Jellybean already knew. One lady had a little fluffy thing, dunno what it was. Cute as a button, reddish eyes, soft orangey fur. Lady asked how old Mini Me is, so I told her. She then asks why I didn’t have another, then says there’s no point having another at this stage because the age gap means they won’t play. I politely tell her to mind her own business. Moments later, a boxer dog attacks her dog. We’d already established that this boxer was 11 years old.The boxer had been growling at this puppy (12 months old) and lost its temper when puppy wouldn’t stop jumping on him. Puppy ends up with a cut nose and teeth marks in its shoulder. Lady goes berserk, telling the owner that her dog needs to be put to sleep, it’s a dangerous dog, it could have attacked my child, she should really think about her choices for this dog.
Lady then scoops up her pup and leaves, shouting behind her that this dangerous dog probably has cancer and is in pain and needs to be put to sleep.
So that was fun.
Needs more character development.
Oh we thought it was a story about age gaps not playing!
Divine Angel said:
Went to the dog park. Lots of other dogs there, some of which Jellybean already knew. One lady had a little fluffy thing, dunno what it was. Cute as a button, reddish eyes, soft orangey fur. Lady asked how old Mini Me is, so I told her. She then asks why I didn’t have another, then says there’s no point having another at this stage because the age gap means they won’t play. I politely tell her to mind her own business. Moments later, a boxer dog attacks her dog. We’d already established that this boxer was 11 years old.The boxer had been growling at this puppy (12 months old) and lost its temper when puppy wouldn’t stop jumping on him. Puppy ends up with a cut nose and teeth marks in its shoulder. Lady goes berserk, telling the owner that her dog needs to be put to sleep, it’s a dangerous dog, it could have attacked my child, she should really think about her choices for this dog.
Lady then scoops up her pup and leaves, shouting behind her that this dangerous dog probably has cancer and is in pain and needs to be put to sleep.
So that was fun.
You’ve been having a good old day.
Nick the hairdresser came around and had coffee. And invited himself around for drinks and dinner Friday night, so that’s nice. He also works on the shark nets and drum lines. He extracted two very large tiger sharks this morning apparently. The bread is all good. I got some more bamboo split with my new homemade bamboo-splitting tool. We didn’t go for a bicycle ride.
buffy said:
JudgeMental said:
buffy said:Yup. And the systems need backup too. Redundancy in the system for just such a situation.
the use of that would depend on how easy it is to switch in a whole new lot of servers i guess.
And I guess that depends on how much you value the information. For patients in hospital, I’d say it’s pretty important for the doctors to be able to access.
it was a power failure so even if they had redundant systems are they on the same power supply? sibeen is the man for this as it is his bread and butter. it isn’t always about cost but how easy technically it is to swap over.
Cymek said:
SCIENCE said:
SCIENCE said:
in breaking newsBlame China The Hackers Have Crashed NSW Health
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/nsw-hospitals-electronic-systems-and-patient-records-knocked-out-20200623-p555br.html
I wonder with a large concerted effort involving thousands of hackers could you crash most of our systems.
It seems to be small scale attacks for the most part, is it just to retaliate when we liken Chinese leaders to Winnie The Poo or a prelude to a full scale attack one day.
We know they are doing it, they know we know its them but we can’t actually do anything except accuse and then they act all indignant.
It was the Chinese themselved who came up with the WtP meme.
Unexpected side effect of COVID-19 lockdown in Delhi; more light gets to solar panels due to lower pollution levels:
https://www.sciencealert.com/cleaner-air-from-coronavirus-lockdowns-is-making-solar-panels-more-efficient-in-highly-polluted-areas
Cymek said:
JudgeMental said:
buffy said:Yup. And the systems need backup too. Redundancy in the system for just such a situation.
the use of that would depend on how easy it is to switch in a whole new lot of servers i guess.
That would help for DDOS attacks as well as general hacking for information gain/destruction
i dunno, the new servers would have the same address as the attacked ones i presume so they would be targeted as well. i dunno how all this works really.
sarahs mum said:
Divine Angel said:
Went to the dog park. Lots of other dogs there, some of which Jellybean already knew. One lady had a little fluffy thing, dunno what it was. Cute as a button, reddish eyes, soft orangey fur. Lady asked how old Mini Me is, so I told her. She then asks why I didn’t have another, then says there’s no point having another at this stage because the age gap means they won’t play. I politely tell her to mind her own business. Moments later, a boxer dog attacks her dog. We’d already established that this boxer was 11 years old.The boxer had been growling at this puppy (12 months old) and lost its temper when puppy wouldn’t stop jumping on him. Puppy ends up with a cut nose and teeth marks in its shoulder. Lady goes berserk, telling the owner that her dog needs to be put to sleep, it’s a dangerous dog, it could have attacked my child, she should really think about her choices for this dog.
Lady then scoops up her pup and leaves, shouting behind her that this dangerous dog probably has cancer and is in pain and needs to be put to sleep.
So that was fun.
Needs more character development.
Stay tuned for the sequel
Divine Angel said:
Lady goes berserk, telling the owner that her dog needs to be put to sleep, it’s a dangerous dog, it could have attacked my child,
I hate people that do that, dragging you into their argument.
I was waiting for a medical appointment, and it turned out to be a long wait. So I was just gunna patiently sit it out. Anyway, some other bloke starts having a go at the receptionist about how long he’s been waiting, he points at me and says “… and he’s been waiting even longer” as part of his rant. I’m like don’t drag me into your complaint.
party_pants said:
Divine Angel said:Lady goes berserk, telling the owner that her dog needs to be put to sleep, it’s a dangerous dog, it could have attacked my child,I hate people that do that, dragging you into their argument.
I was waiting for a medical appointment, and it turned out to be a long wait. So I was just gunna patiently sit it out. Anyway, some other bloke starts having a go at the receptionist about how long he’s been waiting, he points at me and says “… and he’s been waiting even longer” as part of his rant. I’m like don’t drag me into your complaint.
but you could easily have defused the situation by suggesting that you didn’t really mind
Divine Angel said:
sarahs mum said:
Divine Angel said:
Went to the dog park. Lots of other dogs there, some of which Jellybean already knew. One lady had a little fluffy thing, dunno what it was. Cute as a button, reddish eyes, soft orangey fur. Lady asked how old Mini Me is, so I told her. She then asks why I didn’t have another, then says there’s no point having another at this stage because the age gap means they won’t play. I politely tell her to mind her own business. Moments later, a boxer dog attacks her dog. We’d already established that this boxer was 11 years old.The boxer had been growling at this puppy (12 months old) and lost its temper when puppy wouldn’t stop jumping on him. Puppy ends up with a cut nose and teeth marks in its shoulder. Lady goes berserk, telling the owner that her dog needs to be put to sleep, it’s a dangerous dog, it could have attacked my child, she should really think about her choices for this dog.
Lady then scoops up her pup and leaves, shouting behind her that this dangerous dog probably has cancer and is in pain and needs to be put to sleep.
So that was fun.
Needs more character development.
Stay tuned for the sequel
Righto.
SCIENCE said:
party_pants said:
Divine Angel said:Lady goes berserk, telling the owner that her dog needs to be put to sleep, it’s a dangerous dog, it could have attacked my child,I hate people that do that, dragging you into their argument.
I was waiting for a medical appointment, and it turned out to be a long wait. So I was just gunna patiently sit it out. Anyway, some other bloke starts having a go at the receptionist about how long he’s been waiting, he points at me and says “… and he’s been waiting even longer” as part of his rant. I’m like don’t drag me into your complaint.
but you could easily have defused the situation by suggesting that you didn’t really mind
I’m not always for defusing situations.
Does anyone know anything about Irish indentured servants in colonial aus?
party_pants said:
SCIENCE said:
party_pants said:I hate people that do that, dragging you into their argument.
I was waiting for a medical appointment, and it turned out to be a long wait. So I was just gunna patiently sit it out. Anyway, some other bloke starts having a go at the receptionist about how long he’s been waiting, he points at me and says “… and he’s been waiting even longer” as part of his rant. I’m like don’t drag me into your complaint.
but you could easily have defused the situation by suggesting that you didn’t really mind
I’m not always for defusing situations.
fair, for example we too come and read forum for entertainment sometimes
Woolworths warehouse automation set to eliminate 700 jobs in Sydney and Melbourne
damn West Taiwan and their technology
SCIENCE said:
Woolworths warehouse automation set to eliminate 700 jobs in Sydney and Melbournedamn West Taiwan and their technology
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-03/how-artificial-intelligence-will-reshape-our-lives/8674576
bankers don’t add value, replace them with robots, what a damn surprise
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-23/essendon-player-conor-mckenna-tests-negative-to-coronavirus/12385906
So, 5 negatives, an equivocal, a positive and another negative. This poor bloke’s nose! Mr buffy says when they did the swab that came back positive they must have picked up all the inoculating viruses and removed them.
:)
SCIENCE said:
Woolworths warehouse automation set to eliminate 700 jobs in Sydney and Melbournedamn West Taiwan and their technology
More like Germany :)
sibeen said:
SCIENCE said:
Woolworths warehouse automation set to eliminate 700 jobs in Sydney and Melbournedamn West Taiwan and their technology
More like Germany :)
Ve haf vays off making you redundant…
My best mate, second from left – top row just sent me this, my kindergarten photo. God knows where he dug it up from. I’m top row – third from right.
Anyone recognise the bloke middle row – second from left?
sibeen said:
![]()
My best mate, second from left – top row just sent me this, my kindergarten photo. God knows where he dug it up from. I’m top row – third from right.
Anyone recognise the bloke middle row – second from left?
Should I?
buffy said:
sibeen said:
![]()
My best mate, second from left – top row just sent me this, my kindergarten photo. God knows where he dug it up from. I’m top row – third from right.
Anyone recognise the bloke middle row – second from left?
Should I?
He was quite famous :)
The kindergarten I attended was Parkside in Elgar Road, next to Hagenauers Reserve. It’s still there. We didn’t have a photo taken.
https://www.bestchance.org.au/kindergartens/box-hill-north/parkside-preschool/
My siblings didn’t go to kindergarten. Mum decided it wasn’t necessary.
sibeen said:
buffy said:
sibeen said:
![]()
My best mate, second from left – top row just sent me this, my kindergarten photo. God knows where he dug it up from. I’m top row – third from right.
Anyone recognise the bloke middle row – second from left?
Should I?
He was quite famous :)
Quite famous at kindergarten?
sibeen said:
![]()
My best mate, second from left – top row just sent me this, my kindergarten photo. God knows where he dug it up from. I’m top row – third from right.
Anyone recognise the bloke middle row – second from left?
are you wearing a bow tie?
sibeen said:
![]()
My best mate, second from left – top row just sent me this, my kindergarten photo. God knows where he dug it up from. I’m top row – third from right.
Anyone recognise the bloke middle row – second from left?
You’re looking very dapper there
buffy said:
The kindergarten I attended was Parkside in Elgar Road, next to Hagenauers Reserve. It’s still there. We didn’t have a photo taken.https://www.bestchance.org.au/kindergartens/box-hill-north/parkside-preschool/
My siblings didn’t go to kindergarten. Mum decided it wasn’t necessary.
what about prep
JudgeMental said:
sibeen said:
![]()
My best mate, second from left – top row just sent me this, my kindergarten photo. God knows where he dug it up from. I’m top row – third from right.
Anyone recognise the bloke middle row – second from left?
are you wearing a bow tie?
I was very dapper, even in those days. A bit of a lady killer to be truthful :)
sibeen said:
JudgeMental said:
sibeen said:
![]()
My best mate, second from left – top row just sent me this, my kindergarten photo. God knows where he dug it up from. I’m top row – third from right.
Anyone recognise the bloke middle row – second from left?
are you wearing a bow tie?
I was very dapper, even in those days. A bit of a lady killer to be truthful :)
Kindy killer… catchy.
Divine Angel said:
sibeen said:
JudgeMental said:are you wearing a bow tie?
I was very dapper, even in those days. A bit of a lady killer to be truthful :)
Kindy killer… catchy.
Swingin’ Sibeen
buffy said:
sibeen said:
buffy said:Should I?
He was quite famous :)
Quite famous at kindergarten?
No, but he did become quite famous later in life. A bit of an international celeb.
SCIENCE said:
buffy said:
The kindergarten I attended was Parkside in Elgar Road, next to Hagenauers Reserve. It’s still there. We didn’t have a photo taken.https://www.bestchance.org.au/kindergartens/box-hill-north/parkside-preschool/
My siblings didn’t go to kindergarten. Mum decided it wasn’t necessary.
what about prep
You didn’t have a choice about prep. Kids had to go to school at the age of four and a half or five. The cutoff date was 30th June. As my birthday is early in July, I was one of the oldest kids in my year, right through school. My brothers are second half of the year birthdays. My sister is an April birthday, so she was always younger than the others in her grade level.
sibeen said:
Anyone recognise the bloke middle row – second from left?
NFI.
sibeen said:
buffy said:
sibeen said:He was quite famous :)
Quite famous at kindergarten?
No, but he did become quite famous later in life. A bit of an international celeb.
Probably I’ve never heard of him then…
buffy said:
sibeen said:
buffy said:Quite famous at kindergarten?
No, but he did become quite famous later in life. A bit of an international celeb.
Probably I’ve never heard of him then…
pfft.
Steve Irwin.
sibeen said:
buffy said:
sibeen said:He was quite famous :)
Quite famous at kindergarten?
No, but he did become quite famous later in life. A bit of an international celeb.
steve irwin
JudgeMental said:
sibeen said:
buffy said:Quite famous at kindergarten?
No, but he did become quite famous later in life. A bit of an international celeb.
steve irwin
Snap.
sibeen said:
buffy said:
sibeen said:No, but he did become quite famous later in life. A bit of an international celeb.
Probably I’ve never heard of him then…
pfft.
Steve Irwin.
Did he bring crocodiles to school?
Divine Angel said:
sibeen said:
buffy said:Probably I’ve never heard of him then…
pfft.
Steve Irwin.
Did he bring crocodiles to school?
No need..sibeen was there for him to wrestle.
Divine Angel said:
sibeen said:
buffy said:Probably I’ve never heard of him then…
pfft.
Steve Irwin.
Did he bring crocodiles to school?
We all lived next to the creek so there was lots of tadpoles, frogs, blue tongues etc. His house was full of snakes as it was his father who started up Australia zoo and was the snake fanatic. Was always up at his place when a python needed to be fed :)
sibeen said:
JudgeMental said:
sibeen said:
![]()
My best mate, second from left – top row just sent me this, my kindergarten photo. God knows where he dug it up from. I’m top row – third from right.
Anyone recognise the bloke middle row – second from left?
are you wearing a bow tie?
I was very dapper, even in those days. A bit of a lady killer to be truthful :)
A real Beeny Boy. :)
sibeen said:
buffy said:
sibeen said:No, but he did become quite famous later in life. A bit of an international celeb.
Probably I’ve never heard of him then…
pfft.
Steve Irwin.
JudgeMental said:
JudgeMental said:
sibeen said:No, but he did become quite famous later in life. A bit of an international celeb.
steve irwin
Snap.
That’s what the stingray said.
SCIENCE said:
JudgeMental said:
JudgeMental said:steve irwin
Snap.
That’s what the stingray said.
i think that is a bit of anthropomorphising there.

This morning Microsoft informed me that they had replaced their aged Edge browser with an exciting brand new product going by the name of Edge.
It was then quite keen that I should change all my settings to something more new and exciting.
Fortunately it finally took the hint and pissed off, and nothing much seems to have changed.
It does seem to start up a bit quicker though.
This petition ust went past on facebook.

petition to UK Parliament
This award is used to honour individuals who have rendered important services in relation to Commonwealth or foreign nations. People are appointed to the Order rather than awarded it. British Ambassadors to foreign nations are regularly appointed as KCMGs or CMGs.
The image on the Honorary Knights/Dames Commander (KCMG/DCMG) star is a white skinned angel stood on the head/neck of a black skinned devil.
This is a highly offensive image, it is also reminiscent of the recent murder of George Floyd by the white policeman in the same manner presented here in this medal.
We the undersigned are calling for this medal to completely redesigned in a more appropriate way and for an official apology to be given for the offence it has given!
sarahs mum said:
This petition ust went past on facebook.
petition to UK Parliament
This award is used to honour individuals who have rendered important services in relation to Commonwealth or foreign nations. People are appointed to the Order rather than awarded it. British Ambassadors to foreign nations are regularly appointed as KCMGs or CMGs.
The image on the Honorary Knights/Dames Commander (KCMG/DCMG) star is a white skinned angel stood on the head/neck of a black skinned devil.
This is a highly offensive image, it is also reminiscent of the recent murder of George Floyd by the white policeman in the same manner presented here in this medal.
We the undersigned are calling for this medal to completely redesigned in a more appropriate way and for an official apology to be given for the offence it has given!
It’s a bit strong.
sarahs mum said:
This petition ust went past on facebook.
petition to UK Parliament
This award is used to honour individuals who have rendered important services in relation to Commonwealth or foreign nations. People are appointed to the Order rather than awarded it. British Ambassadors to foreign nations are regularly appointed as KCMGs or CMGs.
The image on the Honorary Knights/Dames Commander (KCMG/DCMG) star is a white skinned angel stood on the head/neck of a black skinned devil.
This is a highly offensive image, it is also reminiscent of the recent murder of George Floyd by the white policeman in the same manner presented here in this medal.
We the undersigned are calling for this medal to completely redesigned in a more appropriate way and for an official apology to be given for the offence it has given!
Hmmm. Founded in 1818. Can’t say they should have foreseen the George Floyd case back in those days, but the symbology is very British colonial.
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
This petition ust went past on facebook.
petition to UK Parliament
This award is used to honour individuals who have rendered important services in relation to Commonwealth or foreign nations. People are appointed to the Order rather than awarded it. British Ambassadors to foreign nations are regularly appointed as KCMGs or CMGs.
The image on the Honorary Knights/Dames Commander (KCMG/DCMG) star is a white skinned angel stood on the head/neck of a black skinned devil.
This is a highly offensive image, it is also reminiscent of the recent murder of George Floyd by the white policeman in the same manner presented here in this medal.
We the undersigned are calling for this medal to completely redesigned in a more appropriate way and for an official apology to be given for the offence it has given!
Hmmm. Founded in 1818. Can’t say they should have foreseen the George Floyd case back in those days, but the symbology is very British colonial.
It’s the archangel gabriel standing on the head of satan, apparently.
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
This petition ust went past on facebook.
petition to UK Parliament
This award is used to honour individuals who have rendered important services in relation to Commonwealth or foreign nations. People are appointed to the Order rather than awarded it. British Ambassadors to foreign nations are regularly appointed as KCMGs or CMGs.
The image on the Honorary Knights/Dames Commander (KCMG/DCMG) star is a white skinned angel stood on the head/neck of a black skinned devil.
This is a highly offensive image, it is also reminiscent of the recent murder of George Floyd by the white policeman in the same manner presented here in this medal.
We the undersigned are calling for this medal to completely redesigned in a more appropriate way and for an official apology to be given for the offence it has given!
Hmmm. Founded in 1818. Can’t say they should have foreseen the George Floyd case back in those days, but the symbology is very British colonial.
It’s the archangel gabriel standing on the head of satan, apparently.
It looks like the image has been slightly doctored, too; the angel in the above image is holding a chain in its left hand, but on the actual star it’s something else (though it’s hard to tell what it is, and it could be a stylised chain.)
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
This petition ust went past on facebook.
petition to UK Parliament
This award is used to honour individuals who have rendered important services in relation to Commonwealth or foreign nations. People are appointed to the Order rather than awarded it. British Ambassadors to foreign nations are regularly appointed as KCMGs or CMGs.
The image on the Honorary Knights/Dames Commander (KCMG/DCMG) star is a white skinned angel stood on the head/neck of a black skinned devil.
This is a highly offensive image, it is also reminiscent of the recent murder of George Floyd by the white policeman in the same manner presented here in this medal.
We the undersigned are calling for this medal to completely redesigned in a more appropriate way and for an official apology to be given for the offence it has given!
Hmmm. Founded in 1818. Can’t say they should have foreseen the George Floyd case back in those days, but the symbology is very British colonial.
if a confectionary company can rename some lollies then this can be redesigned. Once we know better we should do better.
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
This petition ust went past on facebook.
petition to UK Parliament
This award is used to honour individuals who have rendered important services in relation to Commonwealth or foreign nations. People are appointed to the Order rather than awarded it. British Ambassadors to foreign nations are regularly appointed as KCMGs or CMGs.
The image on the Honorary Knights/Dames Commander (KCMG/DCMG) star is a white skinned angel stood on the head/neck of a black skinned devil.
This is a highly offensive image, it is also reminiscent of the recent murder of George Floyd by the white policeman in the same manner presented here in this medal.
We the undersigned are calling for this medal to completely redesigned in a more appropriate way and for an official apology to be given for the offence it has given!
Hmmm. Founded in 1818. Can’t say they should have foreseen the George Floyd case back in those days, but the symbology is very British colonial.
It’s the archangel gabriel standing on the head of satan, apparently.
That’s what they tell the children.
btm said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:Hmmm. Founded in 1818. Can’t say they should have foreseen the George Floyd case back in those days, but the symbology is very British colonial.
It’s the archangel gabriel standing on the head of satan, apparently.
It looks like the image has been slightly doctored, too; the angel in the above image is holding a chain in its left hand, but on the actual star it’s something else (though it’s hard to tell what it is, and it could be a stylised chain.)
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
This petition ust went past on facebook.
petition to UK Parliament
This award is used to honour individuals who have rendered important services in relation to Commonwealth or foreign nations. People are appointed to the Order rather than awarded it. British Ambassadors to foreign nations are regularly appointed as KCMGs or CMGs.
The image on the Honorary Knights/Dames Commander (KCMG/DCMG) star is a white skinned angel stood on the head/neck of a black skinned devil.
This is a highly offensive image, it is also reminiscent of the recent murder of George Floyd by the white policeman in the same manner presented here in this medal.
We the undersigned are calling for this medal to completely redesigned in a more appropriate way and for an official apology to be given for the offence it has given!
Hmmm. Founded in 1818. Can’t say they should have foreseen the George Floyd case back in those days, but the symbology is very British colonial.
It’s the archangel gabriel standing on the head of satan, apparently.
I thought satan and god were brothers… wouldn’t that make god black also?
Arts said:
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
This petition ust went past on facebook.
petition to UK Parliament
This award is used to honour individuals who have rendered important services in relation to Commonwealth or foreign nations. People are appointed to the Order rather than awarded it. British Ambassadors to foreign nations are regularly appointed as KCMGs or CMGs.
The image on the Honorary Knights/Dames Commander (KCMG/DCMG) star is a white skinned angel stood on the head/neck of a black skinned devil.
This is a highly offensive image, it is also reminiscent of the recent murder of George Floyd by the white policeman in the same manner presented here in this medal.
We the undersigned are calling for this medal to completely redesigned in a more appropriate way and for an official apology to be given for the offence it has given!
Hmmm. Founded in 1818. Can’t say they should have foreseen the George Floyd case back in those days, but the symbology is very British colonial.
if a confectionary company can rename some lollies then this can be redesigned. Once we know better we should do better.
^
Arts said:
I thought satan and god were brothers… wouldn’t that make god black also?
Someone wasn’t listening in Sunday School…
Arts said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:Hmmm. Founded in 1818. Can’t say they should have foreseen the George Floyd case back in those days, but the symbology is very British colonial.
It’s the archangel gabriel standing on the head of satan, apparently.
I thought satan and god were brothers… wouldn’t that make god black also?
in that movie he was
Witty Rejoinder said:
Arts said:I thought satan and god were brothers… wouldn’t that make god black also?
Someone wasn’t listening in Sunday School…
if I was enrolled I wagged every class.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Arts said:I thought satan and god were brothers… wouldn’t that make god black also?
Someone wasn’t listening in Sunday School…
they don’t teach that in Sunday School.
Well….. wipes and sanitises hands
That’s that job application submitted.
Woodie said:
Well….. wipes and sanitises handsThat’s that job application submitted.
closer to home than the current one?
party_pants said:
Woodie said:
Well….. wipes and sanitises handsThat’s that job application submitted.
closer to home than the current one?
ummmmmm possibly not. It’s with the same mob. Couple of levels up. Management role. It’s nominated as a role at Tweed/Gold Coast, but are open to it being located at other offices in the footprint. I’m not going to the Gold Coast everyday and not moving. Not a role that you can use a generic resume and generic covering letter for. Has taken me 6 hours to do the application. But those that don’t ask………….. don’t get. So we’ll see.
Woodie said:
party_pants said:
Woodie said:
Well….. wipes and sanitises handsThat’s that job application submitted.
closer to home than the current one?
ummmmmm possibly not. It’s with the same mob. Couple of levels up. Management role. It’s nominated as a role at Tweed/Gold Coast, but are open to it being located at other offices in the footprint. I’m not going to the Gold Coast everyday and not moving. Not a role that you can use a generic resume and generic covering letter for. Has taken me 6 hours to do the application. But those that don’t ask………….. don’t get. So we’ll see.
So…. now to de-addle the brain for an hour or so after all that brain addling and half a packet of smokes.
Woodie said:
party_pants said:
Woodie said:
Well….. wipes and sanitises handsThat’s that job application submitted.
closer to home than the current one?
ummmmmm possibly not. It’s with the same mob. Couple of levels up. Management role. It’s nominated as a role at Tweed/Gold Coast, but are open to it being located at other offices in the footprint. I’m not going to the Gold Coast everyday and not moving. Not a role that you can use a generic resume and generic covering letter for. Has taken me 6 hours to do the application. But those that don’t ask………….. don’t get. So we’ll see.
I hope that it works out how you want it to work out.
Woodie said:
Woodie said:
party_pants said:closer to home than the current one?
ummmmmm possibly not. It’s with the same mob. Couple of levels up. Management role. It’s nominated as a role at Tweed/Gold Coast, but are open to it being located at other offices in the footprint. I’m not going to the Gold Coast everyday and not moving. Not a role that you can use a generic resume and generic covering letter for. Has taken me 6 hours to do the application. But those that don’t ask………….. don’t get. So we’ll see.
So…. now to de-addle the brain for an hour or so after all that brain addling and half a packet of smokes.
If you get a raise you will be able to afford to keep smoking.
Woodie said:
party_pants said:
Woodie said:
Well….. wipes and sanitises handsThat’s that job application submitted.
closer to home than the current one?
ummmmmm possibly not. It’s with the same mob. Couple of levels up. Management role. It’s nominated as a role at Tweed/Gold Coast, but are open to it being located at other offices in the footprint. I’m not going to the Gold Coast everyday and not moving. Not a role that you can use a generic resume and generic covering letter for. Has taken me 6 hours to do the application. But those that don’t ask………….. don’t get. So we’ll see.
insist on a company helicopter.
sarahs mum said:
Woodie said:
party_pants said:closer to home than the current one?
ummmmmm possibly not. It’s with the same mob. Couple of levels up. Management role. It’s nominated as a role at Tweed/Gold Coast, but are open to it being located at other offices in the footprint. I’m not going to the Gold Coast everyday and not moving. Not a role that you can use a generic resume and generic covering letter for. Has taken me 6 hours to do the application. But those that don’t ask………….. don’t get. So we’ll see.
I hope that it works out how you want it to work out.
It’s open only internally. I think I’m too remote from the power bases involved in these things and decisions. I should know more by the end of the week. I won’t be holding my breath.
sarahs mum said:
Woodie said:
Woodie said:ummmmmm possibly not. It’s with the same mob. Couple of levels up. Management role. It’s nominated as a role at Tweed/Gold Coast, but are open to it being located at other offices in the footprint. I’m not going to the Gold Coast everyday and not moving. Not a role that you can use a generic resume and generic covering letter for. Has taken me 6 hours to do the application. But those that don’t ask………….. don’t get. So we’ll see.
So…. now to de-addle the brain for an hour or so after all that brain addling and half a packet of smokes.
If you get a raise you will be able to afford to keep smoking.
Well, it’s full time, and I currently do 4 days a week. So that’s at least 25% plus another couple of levels up (say 15%) and probably plus car.
party_pants said:
Woodie said:
party_pants said:closer to home than the current one?
ummmmmm possibly not. It’s with the same mob. Couple of levels up. Management role. It’s nominated as a role at Tweed/Gold Coast, but are open to it being located at other offices in the footprint. I’m not going to the Gold Coast everyday and not moving. Not a role that you can use a generic resume and generic covering letter for. Has taken me 6 hours to do the application. But those that don’t ask………….. don’t get. So we’ll see.
insist on a company helicopter.
chop chop chop chop chop chop chop chop chop chop chop chop……………… I’d rather free chop chop.
party_pants said:
Woodie said:
party_pants said:closer to home than the current one?
ummmmmm possibly not. It’s with the same mob. Couple of levels up. Management role. It’s nominated as a role at Tweed/Gold Coast, but are open to it being located at other offices in the footprint. I’m not going to the Gold Coast everyday and not moving. Not a role that you can use a generic resume and generic covering letter for. Has taken me 6 hours to do the application. But those that don’t ask………….. don’t get. So we’ll see.
insist on a company helicopter.
Or free cigarettes. OK, they’ll offer you the chopper, it’ll be cheaper.
goes and puts lecky blanket on in readiness for a night of nice snug tooties
The power went off some time in the night last night, which meant the lecky blanket went off as well. It’s an automagic pooterised lecky blanket, and if the power goes off, you’ve got the reset it and turn it back on.
If you put it on flat chat, it goes for an hour, then drops to level 1 (of 10) automagically, then goes off completely after 8 hours, unless you crank it up manually and reset the hours to how many hours you want. If power goes off, it resets its little pooter box to level 0 and 0 hours.
I woke up with cold tooties.
Looks like Van Gogh was right. Or perhaps ESA just chose a similar colour palette.

Magnetic Streamlines of the Milky Way. Observations by ESA’s Planck satellite. The huge arches above the plane are likely remnants of past explosive events from our Galaxy’s core.
From https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap200617.html
Planck was observing at wavelengths, 300 µm – 11.1 mm, frequencies between 27 GHz and 1 THz.
Well I have scratched the image of a chook onto a plate. I’ll probably do a bit more detail tomorrow when the light is better. But this will be the first new work since January.
sarahs mum said:
Well I have scratched the image of a chook onto a plate. I’ll probably do a bit more detail tomorrow when the light is better. But this will be the first new work since January.
Post us a a photo. Of the chook scratchings.
mollwollfumble said:
sarahs mum said:
Well I have scratched the image of a chook onto a plate. I’ll probably do a bit more detail tomorrow when the light is better. But this will be the first new work since January.
Post us a a photo. Of the chook scratchings.
I will in a day or three. I’ll pick up the fine needle tomorrow and work a bit more into the plate. I checked the acid bath the other day and it has evaporated some..which means it will be more aciddy…but it is also really cold and the slows down things. So it will all be guesswork as far as the etching bit goes.
There is a large plate on the table. I have a gridded up image of Mt Anne.
And that is the reason I did a small chook. I needed to not be overwhelmed at starting something.

Nick Monk Photography
Like This Page · 5 hrs ·
Disappearing Tarn
kunanyi/Mt Wellington
Tasmania
Taken today, 23/6, in very wet conditions. Unfortunately for me it was either today or not at all, due to commitments. Taking any sort of photo in today’s weather was very challenging indeed.
sibeen said:
![]()
My best mate, second from left – top row just sent me this, my kindergarten photo. God knows where he dug it up from. I’m top row – third from right.
Anyone recognise the bloke middle row – second from left?
Well it aint Steve Smith.
roughbarked said:
sibeen said:
![]()
My best mate, second from left – top row just sent me this, my kindergarten photo. God knows where he dug it up from. I’m top row – third from right.
Anyone recognise the bloke middle row – second from left?
Well it aint Steve Smith.
Donald Trump?
Woodie said:
goes and puts lecky blanket on in readiness for a night of nice snug tootiesThe power went off some time in the night last night, which meant the lecky blanket went off as well. It’s an automagic pooterised lecky blanket, and if the power goes off, you’ve got the reset it and turn it back on.
If you put it on flat chat, it goes for an hour, then drops to level 1 (of 10) automagically, then goes off completely after 8 hours, unless you crank it up manually and reset the hours to how many hours you want. If power goes off, it resets its little pooter box to level 0 and 0 hours.
I woke up with cold tooties.
This is why. https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-226.24,-30.69,1447
Apparently it is a good idea to avoid private security cameras.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-24/security-cameras-hacked-streamed-on-russian-website/12380606
Good morning Holidayers. Seven degrees and overcast. Just getting light.
We have archery back in action this evening. Social distancing etc. Use only your own equipment. One person per butt unless it’s family group. Not a lot different really, except we usually have 4 per butt if we have enough people. Usually two, sometimes three. We are a small club. No tournaments – but that isn’t a problem to me.
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Seven degrees and overcast. Just getting light.We have archery back in action this evening. Social distancing etc. Use only your own equipment. One person per butt unless it’s family group. Not a lot different really, except we usually have 4 per butt if we have enough people. Usually two, sometimes three. We are a small club. No tournaments – but that isn’t a problem to me.
If anyone gets too close, give them a warning shot through their hat.
Housework day this end, although at this rate I’ll have it immaculate within a couple hours. Already hoovered half the rooms.
Bubblecar said:
Housework day this end, although at this rate I’ll have it immaculate within a couple hours. Already hoovered half the rooms.
I’ll have to get into my housework too. Should have done it yesterday but on any day that is cool moist and drippy, I’m prone to make the house dirty because I do much of my gardening on shady moist days. Shady = cloudy. I trek dirt in and out of the house often on such days.
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
This petition ust went past on facebook.
petition to UK Parliament
This award is used to honour individuals who have rendered important services in relation to Commonwealth or foreign nations. People are appointed to the Order rather than awarded it. British Ambassadors to foreign nations are regularly appointed as KCMGs or CMGs.
The image on the Honorary Knights/Dames Commander (KCMG/DCMG) star is a white skinned angel stood on the head/neck of a black skinned devil.
This is a highly offensive image, it is also reminiscent of the recent murder of George Floyd by the white policeman in the same manner presented here in this medal.
We the undersigned are calling for this medal to completely redesigned in a more appropriate way and for an official apology to be given for the offence it has given!
Hmmm. Founded in 1818. Can’t say they should have foreseen the George Floyd case back in those days, but the symbology is very British colonial.
It’s the archangel gabriel standing on the head of satan, apparently.
Whatever it is, if I was given that as an award for services, it certainly wouldn’t make me feel good about the award. Goodness knows how people who identified more with the guy on the ground would feel about it.
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:Hmmm. Founded in 1818. Can’t say they should have foreseen the George Floyd case back in those days, but the symbology is very British colonial.
It’s the archangel gabriel standing on the head of satan, apparently.
Whatever it is, if I was given that as an award for services, it certainly wouldn’t make me feel good about the award. Goodness knows how people who identified more with the guy on the ground would feel about it.
+1
Mornin’.
Some idiot drivers out there this morning.
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
Housework day this end, although at this rate I’ll have it immaculate within a couple hours. Already hoovered half the rooms.
I’ll have to get into my housework too. Should have done it yesterday but on any day that is cool moist and drippy, I’m prone to make the house dirty because I do much of my gardening on shady moist days. Shady = cloudy. I trek dirt in and out of the house often on such days.
The answer to that is a pair of these at the back door. Slip on as you go out, slip off as you come in. And an old towel on the floor at the door.
https://www.gardenware.com.au/product/sloggers-mens-premium-clogs/
I’ve been using Sloggers for many, many years. Now I don’t have the Casterton house, I’ve got a pair at the front door here too. The pair that used to be at the back door there.
:)
(I’ve got ladies ones…a red pair and a purple pair)
That’s interesting…Sloggers seem only to be stocked in places in SA now. I got mine from Diggers, at least 20 years ago.
https://www.sloggers.com.au/store-finder/
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:
party_pants said:Hmmm. Founded in 1818. Can’t say they should have foreseen the George Floyd case back in those days, but the symbology is very British colonial.
if a confectionary company can rename some lollies then this can be redesigned. Once we know better we should do better.
^
I can only think of redskins. And fags. Are there others?
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
Housework day this end, although at this rate I’ll have it immaculate within a couple hours. Already hoovered half the rooms.
I’ll have to get into my housework too. Should have done it yesterday but on any day that is cool moist and drippy, I’m prone to make the house dirty because I do much of my gardening on shady moist days. Shady = cloudy. I trek dirt in and out of the house often on such days.
The answer to that is a pair of these at the back door. Slip on as you go out, slip off as you come in. And an old towel on the floor at the door.
https://www.gardenware.com.au/product/sloggers-mens-premium-clogs/
I’ve been using Sloggers for many, many years. Now I don’t have the Casterton house, I’ve got a pair at the front door here too. The pair that used to be at the back door there.
:)
(I’ve got ladies ones…a red pair and a purple pair)
Ta. :)
buffy said:
That’s interesting…Sloggers seem only to be stocked in places in SA now. I got mine from Diggers, at least 20 years ago.https://www.sloggers.com.au/store-finder/
Maybe on their last legs?
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:if a confectionary company can rename some lollies then this can be redesigned. Once we know better we should do better.
^
I can only think of redskins. And fags. Are there others?
what were those chocolatey simulant that looked like golliwogs?
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:
Arts said:if a confectionary company can rename some lollies then this can be redesigned. Once we know better we should do better.
^
I can only think of redskins. And fags. Are there others?
Fags got rebranded to Fads about 30 years ago.
My question re: Redskins is, why has it taken them so long?
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:^
I can only think of redskins. And fags. Are there others?
what were those chocolatey simulant that looked like golliwogs?
Chicos? Chocolate flavoured jelly babies. Apparently they’re being rebranded too.
Divine Angel said:
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:^
I can only think of redskins. And fags. Are there others?
Fags got rebranded to Fads about 30 years ago.
My question re: Redskins is, why has it taken them so long?
Are they still on the shelves?
Divine Angel said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:I can only think of redskins. And fags. Are there others?
what were those chocolatey simulant that looked like golliwogs?
Chicos? Chocolate flavoured jelly babies. Apparently they’re being rebranded too.
That’s them.
Divine Angel said:
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:^
I can only think of redskins. And fags. Are there others?
Fags got rebranded to Fads about 30 years ago.
My question re: Redskins is, why has it taken them so long?
I thought they either disappeared or were renamed many years ago. Of course, White Knights wouldn’t be renamed. And wasn’t there a licorice thing too?
roughbarked said:
Divine Angel said:
buffy said:I can only think of redskins. And fags. Are there others?
Fags got rebranded to Fads about 30 years ago.
My question re: Redskins is, why has it taken them so long?
Are they still on the shelves?
Yes. There’s also Redskin flavoured milk which has been recently released too.
buffy said:
Divine Angel said:
buffy said:I can only think of redskins. And fags. Are there others?
Fags got rebranded to Fads about 30 years ago.
My question re: Redskins is, why has it taken them so long?
I thought they either disappeared or were renamed many years ago. Of course, White Knights wouldn’t be renamed. And wasn’t there a licorice thing too?
Oh, that would be the chicos.
Divine Angel said:
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:^
I can only think of redskins. And fags. Are there others?
Fags got rebranded to Fads about 30 years ago.
My question re: Redskins is, why has it taken them so long?
Redskin peanuts have a problem as their skins, are in fact, red.
Divine Angel said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:I can only think of redskins. And fags. Are there others?
what were those chocolatey simulant that looked like golliwogs?
Chicos? Chocolate flavoured jelly babies. Apparently they’re being rebranded too.
Divine Angel said:
roughbarked said:
Divine Angel said:Fags got rebranded to Fads about 30 years ago.
My question re: Redskins is, why has it taken them so long?
Are they still on the shelves?
Yes. There’s also Redskin flavoured milk which has been recently released too.
Really? Perhaps they disappeared and then came back. Or something.
I didn’t know Coon was a derogatory term until I read Bryce Courtenay’s April Fool’s Day.
His son Damon had AIDS from a contaminated blood transfusion, and his stomach could only tolerate Coon cheese. He was overseas, and said too loudly in a supermarket, “This tastes exactly like Coon!” A second too late, he realised the cashier was black.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nestle-to-change-names-of-red-skins-and-chicos-lollies-20200623-p555ed.html
I really thought they had been changed many years ago. Possibly before the Fags=Fads change.
Tamb said:
Divine Angel said:
roughbarked said:what were those chocolatey simulant that looked like golliwogs?
Chicos? Chocolate flavoured jelly babies. Apparently they’re being rebranded too.
Gaytimes might be a bit problematical.
‘specially if you frolicked with one in your gob.
buffy said:
Divine Angel said:
roughbarked said:Are they still on the shelves?
Yes. There’s also Redskin flavoured milk which has been recently released too.
Really? Perhaps they disappeared and then came back. Or something.
Only place I’ve seen them is the watch battery bloke used to toss lollies in as a bonus for ordering. Very very occasionally, probably only the once because I recall I scored three of them about 2015.
Divine Angel said:
I didn’t know Coon was a derogatory term until I read Bryce Courtenay’s April Fool’s Day.His son Damon had AIDS from a contaminated blood transfusion, and his stomach could only tolerate Coon cheese. He was overseas, and said too loudly in a supermarket, “This tastes exactly like Coon!” A second too late, he realised the cashier was black.
And you are a researching author?
buffy said:
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nestle-to-change-names-of-red-skins-and-chicos-lollies-20200623-p555ed.htmlI really thought they had been changed many years ago. Possibly before the Fags=Fads change.
Maybe old stock.
roughbarked said:
Divine Angel said:
I didn’t know Coon was a derogatory term until I read Bryce Courtenay’s April Fool’s Day.His son Damon had AIDS from a contaminated blood transfusion, and his stomach could only tolerate Coon cheese. He was overseas, and said too loudly in a supermarket, “This tastes exactly like Coon!” A second too late, he realised the cashier was black.
And you are a researching author?
https://www.news.com.au/finance/business/retail/renewed-push-to-rename-coon-cheese-hits-stumbling-block-due-to-historic-detail/news-story/2ae1fc28984ec37093d70959837562e0
No matter what something is called there will be an action collective somewhere who will be outraged by it.
It could become never ending so that eventually nothing has a name just a number.
roughbarked said:
Divine Angel said:
I didn’t know Coon was a derogatory term until I read Bryce Courtenay’s April Fool’s Day.His son Damon had AIDS from a contaminated blood transfusion, and his stomach could only tolerate Coon cheese. He was overseas, and said too loudly in a supermarket, “This tastes exactly like Coon!” A second too late, he realised the cashier was black.
And you are a researching author?
Not in 1998 I wasn’t, which is about when I first read the book.
Peak Warming Man said:
No matter what something is called there will be an action collective somewhere who will be outraged by it.
It could become never ending so that eventually nothing has a name just a number.
triskaidekaphobia
Peak Warming Man said:
No matter what something is called there will be an action collective somewhere who will be outraged by it.
It could become never ending so that eventually nothing has a name just a number.
Tamb said:
Peak Warming Man said:
No matter what something is called there will be an action collective somewhere who will be outraged by it.
It could become never ending so that eventually nothing has a name just a number.
Then we must stop speaking of prime numbers. All numbers must be equal.
Unpossible.
Divine Angel said:
roughbarked said:
Divine Angel said:
I didn’t know Coon was a derogatory term until I read Bryce Courtenay’s April Fool’s Day.His son Damon had AIDS from a contaminated blood transfusion, and his stomach could only tolerate Coon cheese. He was overseas, and said too loudly in a supermarket, “This tastes exactly like Coon!” A second too late, he realised the cashier was black.
And you are a researching author?
Not in 1998 I wasn’t, which is about when I first read the book.
The word coon has been in use in Australia for as long as I can remember. Which is probably less than the actual usage.
Tamb said:
Peak Warming Man said:
No matter what something is called there will be an action collective somewhere who will be outraged by it.
It could become never ending so that eventually nothing has a name just a number.
Then we must stop speaking of prime numbers. All numbers must be equal.
heh.
roughbarked said:
Divine Angel said:
roughbarked said:And you are a researching author?
Not in 1998 I wasn’t, which is about when I first read the book.
The word coon has been in use in Australia for as long as I can remember. Which is probably less than the actual usage.
And I grew up in white privilege. There were two non-white kids at my school, Chinese sisters whose parents ran the local Chinese takeaway. There was no racism because there wasn’t anyone to be racist to or about. So I remained ignorant; that’s one of the beautiful things about reading. You get to experience a world previously unknown to you.
Peak Warming Man said:
No matter what something is called there will be an action collective somewhere who will be outraged by it.
It could become never ending so that eventually nothing has a name just a number.
You better watch out PWM.
That slippery slope argument is a bit of a slippery slope.
Divine Angel said:
roughbarked said:
Divine Angel said:Not in 1998 I wasn’t, which is about when I first read the book.
The word coon has been in use in Australia for as long as I can remember. Which is probably less than the actual usage.
And I grew up in white privilege. There were two non-white kids at my school, Chinese sisters whose parents ran the local Chinese takeaway. There was no racism because there wasn’t anyone to be racist to or about. So I remained ignorant; that’s one of the beautiful things about reading. You get to experience a world previously unknown to you.
True. So very true.
My early memories were of aborigiinal kids throwing clods and rocks at me, calling me a gubba cunt. So I had to ask my parents WTF? Thankfully, my mother being a teacher, there were lots of reading resources at home not available to other kids because they were not on the curriculum reading list.Divine Angel said:
I didn’t know Coon was a derogatory term until I read Bryce Courtenay’s April Fool’s Day.His son Damon had AIDS from a contaminated blood transfusion, and his stomach could only tolerate Coon cheese. He was overseas, and said too loudly in a supermarket, “This tastes exactly like Coon!” A second too late, he realised the cashier was black.
I don’t remember when I found that out, but it was certainly after I was an adult. I had a family of patients whose surname is Coon.
Hello
Hospital just phoned. Off to Cairns tomorrow until Friday 04/07.
Taking the lappie so I’ll still be able to pop in here.
Tamb said:
Hospital just phoned. Off to Cairns tomorrow until Friday 04/07.
Taking the lappie so I’ll still be able to pop in here.
Just more chemo?
Peak Warming Man said:
Tamb said:
Hospital just phoned. Off to Cairns tomorrow until Friday 04/07.
Taking the lappie so I’ll still be able to pop in here.
Just more chemo?
nah, just for fun.
Peak Warming Man said:
Tamb said:
Hospital just phoned. Off to Cairns tomorrow until Friday 04/07.
Taking the lappie so I’ll still be able to pop in here.
Just more chemo?
Tamb said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Tamb said:
Hospital just phoned. Off to Cairns tomorrow until Friday 04/07.
Taking the lappie so I’ll still be able to pop in here.
Just more chemo?
Yes. 21st time.
Don’t know what the record is but I must be getting close.
You gettin’ addicted to the stuff or sumpin’?
captain_spalding said:
Tamb said:
Peak Warming Man said:Just more chemo?
Yes. 21st time.
Don’t know what the record is but I must be getting close.You gettin’ addicted to the stuff or sumpin’?
Tamb said:
captain_spalding said:
Tamb said:Yes. 21st time.
Don’t know what the record is but I must be getting close.You gettin’ addicted to the stuff or sumpin’?
For a needle phobic like me 14 needles per month in the abdomen is not fun.
I’m up to a bit over 280 now,
You should earn yourself a voucher for a McDonalds Happy meal say for every 50
Cymek said:
Tamb said:
captain_spalding said:You gettin’ addicted to the stuff or sumpin’?
For a needle phobic like me 14 needles per month in the abdomen is not fun.
I’m up to a bit over 280 now,You should earn yourself a voucher for a McDonalds Happy meal say for every 50
Tamb said:
captain_spalding said:
Tamb said:Yes. 21st time.
Don’t know what the record is but I must be getting close.You gettin’ addicted to the stuff or sumpin’?
For a needle phobic like me 14 needles per month in the abdomen is not fun.
I’m up to a bit over 280 now,
Doesn’t sound like fun at all.
On the other hand, with all those holes i you, i reckon that if you stand shirtless in a strong wind, you should produce a nice musical sound.

JudgeMental said:
Damn right. Per day production cost can be astronomical.
JudgeMental said:
I’m guessing the two spares each were stunt doubles, probably gymnasts. The sepia/mud is interesting.
captain_spalding said:
Tamb said:
captain_spalding said:You gettin’ addicted to the stuff or sumpin’?
For a needle phobic like me 14 needles per month in the abdomen is not fun.
I’m up to a bit over 280 now,Doesn’t sound like fun at all.
On the other hand, with all those holes i you, i reckon that if you stand shirtless in a strong wind, you should produce a nice musical sound.
LOL
Doesn’t sound like fun at all.
I agree. It certainly doesn’t.
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
Tamb said:For a needle phobic like me 14 needles per month in the abdomen is not fun.
I’m up to a bit over 280 now,Doesn’t sound like fun at all.
On the other hand, with all those holes i you, i reckon that if you stand shirtless in a strong wind, you should produce a nice musical sound.
LOL
Doesn’t sound like fun at all.
I agree. It certainly doesn’t.
Djokivic is apparently an anti-vaxer.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Djokivic is apparently an anti-vaxer.
what better way to get immune then than trying as hard as possible to catch the Real Thing
SCIENCE said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Djokivic is apparently an anti-vaxer.
what better way to get immune then than trying as hard as possible to catch the Real Thing
Hold a Covid party?
Hey who wants to buy a $10 note? Bargain, you save a whole fifty dollars!!
Divine Angel said:
Hey who wants to buy a $10 note? Bargain, you save a whole fifty dollars!!
I’ve got the original plastic one. The first issued plastic note.
roughbarked said:
Divine Angel said:
Hey who wants to buy a $10 note? Bargain, you save a whole fifty dollars!!
I’ve got the original plastic one. The first issued plastic note.
Divine Angel said:
Hey who wants to buy a $10 note? Bargain, you save a whole fifty dollars!!
same deal, they might give you $450 if you grant us one of these
roughbarked said:
SCIENCE said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Djokivic is apparently an anti-vaxer.
what better way to get immune then than trying as hard as possible to catch the Real Thing
Hold a Covid party?
Called a tennis tournament these days.
roughbarked said:
Divine Angel said:
Hey who wants to buy a $10 note? Bargain, you save a whole fifty dollars!!
I’ve got the original plastic one. The first issued plastic note.
The faulty one?
looks like a nice day, go check few troughs and do meter reads shortly, after eat my toast with vegemite on, got a crust today, how lucky am I, a reminder I need go get bread from the shared freezer at M&D’s later, yes, it was the last crust, the final end crust of a loaf no more
and just remembered need get load stumps while out farm, so be some walking, there are in no nice heaps, to park near, convenient, requires looking, finding, walking, driving, looking, that’s the theme
Witty Rejoinder said:
Djokivic is apparently an anti-vaxer.
yep.
Smoked salmon, gouda & dill on white sourdough, toastified.
I seem to have hit a limit on playing the computer on Chess.com.
It only lets me move kings pawn once, so I can get into a game and thrn try and move it and it wont let me.
So I’ve just put chess.com on my list of things that can get fucked.
Peak Warming Man said:
I seem to have hit a limit on playing the computer on Chess.com.
It only lets me move kings pawn once, so I can get into a game and thrn try and move it and it wont let me.
So I’ve just put chess.com on my list of things that can get fucked.
must be a long list.
Arts said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I seem to have hit a limit on playing the computer on Chess.com.
It only lets me move kings pawn once, so I can get into a game and thrn try and move it and it wont let me.
So I’ve just put chess.com on my list of things that can get fucked.
must be a long list.
it is also on the list.
Peak Warming Man said:
I seem to have hit a limit on playing the computer on Chess.com.
It only lets me move kings pawn once, so I can get into a game and thrn try and move it and it wont let me.
So I’ve just put chess.com on my list of things that can get fucked.
It sounds a bit like the nought-and-crosses game at the old Sydney Tech Museum
Supposedly, you could not beat the computer.
More than once, i saw the situation where the human player had only to touch the panel and add a ‘nought’ to win the game.
But the computer would instead show a cross when the touch was made, and declare the game a draw.
It wasn’t that you couldn’t beat it; it just wouldn’t admit it.
Hey Arts, I was thinking about the air fryer. We can cook a whole chook in ours although I can’t fit veg in at the same time. So if you’re looking to feed a family a four, a chook will fit. Depends what you’re wanting to serve with it.
Divine Angel said:
Hey Arts, I was thinking about the air fryer. We can cook a whole chook in ours although I can’t fit veg in at the same time. So if you’re looking to feed a family a four, a chook will fit. Depends what you’re wanting to serve with it.
Does the food taste any different
Divine Angel said:
Hey Arts, I was thinking about the air fryer. We can cook a whole chook in ours although I can’t fit veg in at the same time. So if you’re looking to feed a family a four, a chook will fit. Depends what you’re wanting to serve with it.
thanks for that. I loathe to get kitchen appliances that only do one thing, but I can see the value in an air fryer.. but not just for snacks.. I also love a one pot meal, so to have something that will do it all would be great.. I’ll add that info to the list
Bubblecar said:
Smoked salmon, gouda & dill on white sourdough, toastified.
Actual dill or dill pickles?
I have a plan to live forever by not having any more birthdays.
JudgeMental said:
I have a plan to live forever by not having any more birthdays.
I can stop buying you presents then. That’s a load off.
Cymek said:
Divine Angel said:
Hey Arts, I was thinking about the air fryer. We can cook a whole chook in ours although I can’t fit veg in at the same time. So if you’re looking to feed a family a four, a chook will fit. Depends what you’re wanting to serve with it.
Does the food taste any different
Tastes like chicken…
sibeen said:
JudgeMental said:
I have a plan to live forever by not having any more birthdays.
I can stop buying you presents then. That’s a load off.
ta, I have enough ties and soap-on-a-rope now.
furious said:
Cymek said:
Divine Angel said:
Hey Arts, I was thinking about the air fryer. We can cook a whole chook in ours although I can’t fit veg in at the same time. So if you’re looking to feed a family a four, a chook will fit. Depends what you’re wanting to serve with it.
Does the food taste any different
Tastes like chicken…
Thanks
furious said:
Cymek said:
Divine Angel said:
Hey Arts, I was thinking about the air fryer. We can cook a whole chook in ours although I can’t fit veg in at the same time. So if you’re looking to feed a family a four, a chook will fit. Depends what you’re wanting to serve with it.
Does the food taste any different
Tastes like chicken…
even the white bits are dark.
JudgeMental said:
I have a plan to live forever by not having any more birthdays.
JudgeMental said:
I have a plan to live forever by not having any more birthdays.
No, it just means that you’ll die at the age you are now, no matter how long you live.
captain_spalding said:
JudgeMental said:
I have a plan to live forever by not having any more birthdays.
No, it just means that you’ll die at the age you are now, no matter how long you live.
ahhh live young and die fast.
JudgeMental said:
I have a plan to live forever by not having any more birthdays.
You only need to make it to 2050, then you can exist as either a real Frankenstein’s monster or a sex doll who has multiple orgasms.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/5587710/how-to-live-forever/
JudgeMental said:
captain_spalding said:
JudgeMental said:
I have a plan to live forever by not having any more birthdays.
No, it just means that you’ll die at the age you are now, no matter how long you live.
ahhh live young and die fast.
If you live ‘at this age’ for a long time to come, then it sounds more like ‘live young and die slowly’.
Speedy said:
JudgeMental said:
I have a plan to live forever by not having any more birthdays.
You only need to make it to 2050, then you can exist as either a real Frankenstein’s monster or a sex doll who has multiple orgasms.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/5587710/how-to-live-forever/
How about a Frankenstein’s monster who has multiple orgasms?
Speedy said:
JudgeMental said:
I have a plan to live forever by not having any more birthdays.
You only need to make it to 2050, then you can exist as either a real Frankenstein’s monster or a sex doll who has multiple orgasms.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/5587710/how-to-live-forever/
lock in B eddie.
I got a gift from the universe yesterday
Was walking home from the train station when the rain came down, sheltered at a bus stop I never normally use and a really large packet of unopened chips were on the seat
ABC News:
‘Hundreds more Adelaide bus stops targeted than 500 set to be scrapped
Adelaide bus users will be deprived of access to hundreds more stops than the 500 already set to be axed by the State Government, because many will be converted into school stops.’
Clever thinking.
The buses will find it very much more easy to keep to the schedule if they can cut out all that time-wasting stopping and starting.
Cymek said:
I got a gift from the universe yesterday
Was walking home from the train station when the rain came down, sheltered at a bus stop I never normally use and a really large packet of unopened chips were on the seat
Did you check the bag for hypodermic punctures?
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘Hundreds more Adelaide bus stops targeted than 500 set to be scrapped
Adelaide bus users will be deprived of access to hundreds more stops than the 500 already set to be axed by the State Government, because many will be converted into school stops.’Clever thinking.
The buses will find it very much more easy to keep to the schedule if they can cut out all that time-wasting stopping and starting.
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘Hundreds more Adelaide bus stops targeted than 500 set to be scrapped
Adelaide bus users will be deprived of access to hundreds more stops than the 500 already set to be axed by the State Government, because many will be converted into school stops.’Clever thinking.
The buses will find it very much more easy to keep to the schedule if they can cut out all that time-wasting stopping and starting.
Yes, good way of enforcing the social distancing as well.
Tamb said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘Hundreds more Adelaide bus stops targeted than 500 set to be scrapped
Adelaide bus users will be deprived of access to hundreds more stops than the 500 already set to be axed by the State Government, because many will be converted into school stops.’Clever thinking.
The buses will find it very much more easy to keep to the schedule if they can cut out all that time-wasting stopping and starting.
Like the hospital with no patients on Yes Minister.
It was the most efficient hospital in the whole of the UK, and the unions loved it.
captain_spalding said:
Cymek said:
I got a gift from the universe yesterday
Was walking home from the train station when the rain came down, sheltered at a bus stop I never normally use and a really large packet of unopened chips were on the seat
Did you check the bag for hypodermic punctures?
Yes
https://mobile.twitter.com/HearnStephen/status/1275294006856093697
Witty Rejoinder said:
https://mobile.twitter.com/HearnStephen/status/1275294006856093697
shopped.
I see the Vic cops have just commissioned a new chopper – An AW139, for the enthusiasts.
1,000km range, 310km/hr, 4,000kg total weight.
You do not want this thing landing on your oval.
Cymek said:
captain_spalding said:
Cymek said:
I got a gift from the universe yesterday
Was walking home from the train station when the rain came down, sheltered at a bus stop I never normally use and a really large packet of unopened chips were on the seat
Did you check the bag for hypodermic punctures?
Yes
Not one of The Programme’s dosed bags then
No results to be gathered here…
Rule 303 said:
I see the Vic cops have just commissioned a new chopper – An AW139, for the enthusiasts.1,000km range, 310km/hr, 4,000kg total weight.
You do not want this thing landing on your oval.
LifeFlight up here runs anAW139. In and out of the hospital, home base about 2.5 km from my house.
Rule 303 said:
I see the Vic cops have just commissioned a new chopper – An AW139, for the enthusiasts.1,000km range, 310km/hr, 4,000kg total weight.
You do not want this thing landing on your oval.
The owners of ovals might not get a say in it. I’d say it will most likely land wherever it damn well pleases.
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:
I see the Vic cops have just commissioned a new chopper – An AW139, for the enthusiasts.1,000km range, 310km/hr, 4,000kg total weight.
You do not want this thing landing on your oval.
The owners of ovals might not get a say in it. I’d say it will most likely land wherever it damn well pleases.
Was shown by a former US Army helicopter pilot how they assess landing spaces. Flight path in, flight path out, space on the ground, treelines, obstructions, likely ground surface (firm? swampy? rocky?), ground visibility (long grass?), all sorts of things. Idea being: don’t land yourself in a space that you can’t get out of.
Which is not to say that i didn’t see him get it out of some spaces where i wouldn’t have thought it possible.
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:
I see the Vic cops have just commissioned a new chopper – An AW139, for the enthusiasts.1,000km range, 310km/hr, 4,000kg total weight.
You do not want this thing landing on your oval.
The owners of ovals might not get a say in it. I’d say it will most likely land wherever it damn well pleases.
Was shown by a former US Army helicopter pilot how they assess landing spaces. Flight path in, flight path out, space on the ground, treelines, obstructions, likely ground surface (firm? swampy? rocky?), ground visibility (long grass?), all sorts of things. Idea being: don’t land yourself in a space that you can’t get out of.
Which is not to say that i didn’t see him get it out of some spaces where i wouldn’t have thought it possible.
A sports oval probably ticks all the boxes. Just mind the goal posts at either end, but they are usually painted a nice highly visible white.
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:The owners of ovals might not get a say in it. I’d say it will most likely land wherever it damn well pleases.
Was shown by a former US Army helicopter pilot how they assess landing spaces. Flight path in, flight path out, space on the ground, treelines, obstructions, likely ground surface (firm? swampy? rocky?), ground visibility (long grass?), all sorts of things. Idea being: don’t land yourself in a space that you can’t get out of.
Which is not to say that i didn’t see him get it out of some spaces where i wouldn’t have thought it possible.
A sports oval probably ticks all the boxes. Just mind the goal posts at either end, but they are usually painted a nice highly visible white.
If they can’t land it on a sport field then I dare say they have no business flying a helicopter…
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:The owners of ovals might not get a say in it. I’d say it will most likely land wherever it damn well pleases.
Was shown by a former US Army helicopter pilot how they assess landing spaces. Flight path in, flight path out, space on the ground, treelines, obstructions, likely ground surface (firm? swampy? rocky?), ground visibility (long grass?), all sorts of things. Idea being: don’t land yourself in a space that you can’t get out of.
Which is not to say that i didn’t see him get it out of some spaces where i wouldn’t have thought it possible.
A sports oval probably ticks all the boxes. Just mind the goal posts at either end, but they are usually painted a nice highly visible white.
Power lines and light towers. Gotta look for them.
dv said:
so android HUAWEI have already been spying on us for years ¿ zOMG
So one thing about Perth for astronomy is that winter is the rainy season. What would otherwise be a good opportunity for evening stargazing is messed up by clouds. At least in Qld the winters are dry.
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
so
androidHUAWEI have already been spying on us for years ¿ zOMG
What makes you think that they, and other agencies haven’t been spying on us for years? (because they have been.)
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
so
androidHUAWEI have already been spying on us for years ¿ zOMG
What makes you think that they, and other agencies haven’t been spying on us for years? (because they have been.)
but if you ask the media then the only ones we should be afraid of are the bloody West Taiwanese, we only hear about USSA spying on Australia once a year quietly
personally we share the minimum personal information required with unlikes of Google Apple Huawei Whatever
Hearing on the news last night that people are panic buying again, Mum has stocked up on toilet paper, rice, tissues, and other stuff that sold out the first time round. She offered to get some for me but I’m willing to take my chances.
SCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:so
androidHUAWEI have already been spying on us for years ¿ zOMG
What makes you think that they, and other agencies haven’t been spying on us for years? (because they have been.)
but if you ask the media then the only ones we should be afraid of are the bloody West Taiwanese, we only hear about USSA spying on Australia once a year quietly
personally we share the minimum personal information required with unlikes of Google Apple Huawei Whatever
Whatevs. Russian hackers have been spying on us for their own version of The Truman Show.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-24/security-cameras-hacked-streamed-on-russian-website/12380606
SCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:so
androidHUAWEI have already been spying on us for years ¿ zOMG
What makes you think that they, and other agencies haven’t been spying on us for years? (because they have been.)
but if you ask the media then the only ones we should be afraid of are the bloody West Taiwanese, we only hear about USSA spying on Australia once a year quietly
personally we share the minimum personal information required with unlikes of Google Apple Huawei Whatever
The difference is that the West Taiwanese aren’t as easily able to make life uncomfortable for the Australian media as our own and ‘friendly’ government agencies.
So, they have no compunction about speaking in of the WTs, but hesitate to do so about our own agencies. Unless they have a grievance of their own against said agencies.
Divine Angel said:
SCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:What makes you think that they, and other agencies haven’t been spying on us for years? (because they have been.)
but if you ask the media then the only ones we should be afraid of are the bloody West Taiwanese, we only hear about USSA spying on Australia once a year quietly
personally we share the minimum personal information required with unlikes of Google Apple Huawei Whatever
Whatevs. Russian hackers have been spying on us for their own version of The Truman Show.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-24/security-cameras-hacked-streamed-on-russian-website/12380606
probably didn’t read the EULAs that’s all
SCIENCE said:
Divine Angel said:
SCIENCE said:but if you ask the media then the only ones we should be afraid of are the bloody West Taiwanese, we only hear about USSA spying on Australia once a year quietly
personally we share the minimum personal information required with unlikes of Google Apple Huawei Whatever
Whatevs. Russian hackers have been spying on us for their own version of The Truman Show.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-24/security-cameras-hacked-streamed-on-russian-website/12380606
probably didn’t read the EULAs that’s all
Hacking warfare would be relatively cheap and danger free, surprised a lot more money isn’t dedicated to it (that we know of anyway)
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
captain_spalding said:What makes you think that they, and other agencies haven’t been spying on us for years? (because they have been.)
but if you ask the media then the only ones we should be afraid of are the bloody West Taiwanese, we only hear about USSA spying on Australia once a year quietly
personally we share the minimum personal information required with unlikes of Google Apple Huawei Whatever
The difference is that the West Taiwanese aren’t as easily able to make life uncomfortable for the Australian media as our own and ‘friendly’ government agencies.
So, they have no compunction about speaking in of the WTs, but hesitate to do so about our own agencies. Unless they have a grievance of their own against said agencies.
indeed we hear many of them have quite healthy skepticism of their own governmental capabilities and claims, we guess these ideas on our end are just a timely reminder that we should have appropriate skepticism on our end
(but if it’s done by a corporation, then no worries, give them everything!)
(… wait… our governments can pressure our own corporate entities as well?)
wait
SCIENCE said:
Divine Angel said:
SCIENCE said:but if you ask the media then the only ones we should be afraid of are the bloody West Taiwanese, we only hear about USSA spying on Australia once a year quietly
personally we share the minimum personal information required with unlikes of Google Apple Huawei Whatever
Whatevs. Russian hackers have been spying on us for their own version of The Truman Show.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-24/security-cameras-hacked-streamed-on-russian-website/12380606
probably didn’t read the EULAs that’s all
Russia is the shruggiest nation on Earth.
‘So we violate agreement/rules/copyright law.’ (shrug)’Send us letter from your lawyer. We see you in court.’ (howls of derisive laughter)
Cymek said:
SCIENCE said:
Divine Angel said:Whatevs. Russian hackers have been spying on us for their own version of The Truman Show.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-24/security-cameras-hacked-streamed-on-russian-website/12380606
probably didn’t read the EULAs that’s all
Hacking warfare would be relatively cheap and danger free, surprised a lot more money isn’t dedicated to it (that we know of anyway)
sure they do
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:
I see the Vic cops have just commissioned a new chopper – An AW139, for the enthusiasts.1,000km range, 310km/hr, 4,000kg total weight.
You do not want this thing landing on your oval.
The owners of ovals might not get a say in it. I’d say it will most likely land wherever it damn well pleases.
Was shown by a former US Army helicopter pilot how they assess landing spaces. Flight path in, flight path out, space on the ground, treelines, obstructions, likely ground surface (firm? swampy? rocky?), ground visibility (long grass?), all sorts of things. Idea being: don’t land yourself in a space that you can’t get out of.
Which is not to say that i didn’t see him get it out of some spaces where i wouldn’t have thought it possible.
Yeah, it wouldn’t take much to make your oval just a tiny bit less than ideal….
The Ambos have a few down here, but they need them for their carrying capacity. The damage they do to the ground and everything around the landing site is significant.
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:The owners of ovals might not get a say in it. I’d say it will most likely land wherever it damn well pleases.
Was shown by a former US Army helicopter pilot how they assess landing spaces. Flight path in, flight path out, space on the ground, treelines, obstructions, likely ground surface (firm? swampy? rocky?), ground visibility (long grass?), all sorts of things. Idea being: don’t land yourself in a space that you can’t get out of.
Which is not to say that i didn’t see him get it out of some spaces where i wouldn’t have thought it possible.
A sports oval probably ticks all the boxes. Just mind the goal posts at either end, but they are usually painted a nice highly visible white.
You can’t just put 4,000kg on an oval (sitting on three small wheels) without causing a heap of damage to the surface.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-24/cold-war-william-diver-dobson-and-the-ferry-plot/12372540
f’n’ comm’i‘s
So all day yesterday I was quite convinced that I had an infection happening in one of my salivary glands in the palate. I was imagining it to be like a giant pimple with icky stuff in it. Feeling it with my tongue..it seemed to have a head on it like a pimple.
This morning I tried to feel it with my finger and it felt like it had a scabby top. Picked scabby top. And it was a rock. An itty bitty rock.
It was a salivary duct stone. Only a little one. I just read that they can be 2cm. And that would fucking hurt I reckon.
https://www.healthline.com/health/salivary-duct-stones#diagnosis
sarahs mum said:
So all day yesterday I was quite convinced that I had an infection happening in one of my salivary glands in the palate. I was imagining it to be like a giant pimple with icky stuff in it. Feeling it with my tongue..it seemed to have a head on it like a pimple.This morning I tried to feel it with my finger and it felt like it had a scabby top. Picked scabby top. And it was a rock. An itty bitty rock.
It was a salivary duct stone. Only a little one. I just read that they can be 2cm. And that would fucking hurt I reckon.
https://www.healthline.com/health/salivary-duct-stones#diagnosis
Huh!
Never heard of such a thing before. TIL…
:)
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
So all day yesterday I was quite convinced that I had an infection happening in one of my salivary glands in the palate. I was imagining it to be like a giant pimple with icky stuff in it. Feeling it with my tongue..it seemed to have a head on it like a pimple.This morning I tried to feel it with my finger and it felt like it had a scabby top. Picked scabby top. And it was a rock. An itty bitty rock.
It was a salivary duct stone. Only a little one. I just read that they can be 2cm. And that would fucking hurt I reckon.
https://www.healthline.com/health/salivary-duct-stones#diagnosis
Huh!
Never heard of such a thing before. TIL…
:)
I googled salivary duct stone to see if it was a thing. I hadn’t finished typing duct and stone came up on the auto.
In a resolution on the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination, adopted by a vote of 43 in favour, 2 against and 2 abstentions, the Council called upon all States to ensure their obligations of non-recognition, non-aid or assistance with regard to the serious breaches of peremptory norms of international law by Israel. The Council further urged all States to adopt measures as required to promote the realization of the right to self-determination of the Palestinian people, and to render assistance to the United Nations in carrying out the responsibilities entrusted to it by the Charter regarding the implementation of this right.
https://reliefweb.int/report/libya/human-rights-council-adopts-13-resolutions-requests-establishment-and-dispatch-fact
https://www.un.org/unispal/document/right-of-palestinian-people-to-self-determination-unhrc-34th-session-draft-resolution/
dv said:
In a resolution on the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination, adopted by a vote of 43 in favour, 2 against and 2 abstentions, the Council called upon all States to ensure their obligations of non-recognition, non-aid or assistance with regard to the serious breaches of peremptory norms of international law by Israel. The Council further urged all States to adopt measures as required to promote the realization of the right to self-determination of the Palestinian people, and to render assistance to the United Nations in carrying out the responsibilities entrusted to it by the Charter regarding the implementation of this right.
https://reliefweb.int/report/libya/human-rights-council-adopts-13-resolutions-requests-establishment-and-dispatch-fact
https://www.un.org/unispal/document/right-of-palestinian-people-to-self-determination-unhrc-34th-session-draft-resolution/
Seems odd.
dv said:
In a resolution on the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination, adopted by a vote of 43 in favour, 2 against and 2 abstentions, the Council called upon all States to ensure their obligations of non-recognition, non-aid or assistance with regard to the serious breaches of peremptory norms of international law by Israel. The Council further urged all States to adopt measures as required to promote the realization of the right to self-determination of the Palestinian people, and to render assistance to the United Nations in carrying out the responsibilities entrusted to it by the Charter regarding the implementation of this right.
https://reliefweb.int/report/libya/human-rights-council-adopts-13-resolutions-requests-establishment-and-dispatch-fact
https://www.un.org/unispal/document/right-of-palestinian-people-to-self-determination-unhrc-34th-session-draft-resolution/
IS that an example of me being represented? Cause it fails
.
party_pants said:
dv said:In a resolution on the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination, adopted by a vote of 43 in favour, 2 against and 2 abstentions, the Council called upon all States to ensure their obligations of non-recognition, non-aid or assistance with regard to the serious breaches of peremptory norms of international law by Israel. The Council further urged all States to adopt measures as required to promote the realization of the right to self-determination of the Palestinian people, and to render assistance to the United Nations in carrying out the responsibilities entrusted to it by the Charter regarding the implementation of this right.
https://reliefweb.int/report/libya/human-rights-council-adopts-13-resolutions-requests-establishment-and-dispatch-fact
https://www.un.org/unispal/document/right-of-palestinian-people-to-self-determination-unhrc-34th-session-draft-resolution/
Seems odd.
No. We are awful people.
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:
dv said:In a resolution on the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination, adopted by a vote of 43 in favour, 2 against and 2 abstentions, the Council called upon all States to ensure their obligations of non-recognition, non-aid or assistance with regard to the serious breaches of peremptory norms of international law by Israel. The Council further urged all States to adopt measures as required to promote the realization of the right to self-determination of the Palestinian people, and to render assistance to the United Nations in carrying out the responsibilities entrusted to it by the Charter regarding the implementation of this right.
https://reliefweb.int/report/libya/human-rights-council-adopts-13-resolutions-requests-establishment-and-dispatch-fact
https://www.un.org/unispal/document/right-of-palestinian-people-to-self-determination-unhrc-34th-session-draft-resolution/
Seems odd.
No. We are awful people.
What do we buy off Israel that we can’t get from anyone else?
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:Seems odd.
No. We are awful people.
What do we buy off Israel that we can’t get from anyone else?
Both sides really need to stop killing each other before any sort of equality and self determination can work
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:Seems odd.
No. We are awful people.
What do we buy off Israel that we can’t get from anyone else?
Military support from the USA.
Cymek said:
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:No. We are awful people.
What do we buy off Israel that we can’t get from anyone else?
Both sides really need to stop killing each other before any sort of equality and self determination can work
And this could be an argument if it wasn’t for the fact that Palestine has been butchered and robbed and pushed and destroyed and deleted from the map.
Cymek said:
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:No. We are awful people.
What do we buy off Israel that we can’t get from anyone else?
Both sides really need to stop killing each other before any sort of equality and self determination can work
They need to abandon all three religions, tear down every mosque, every church and every synagogue, a rebuild completely from scratch a new secular and humanistic society. But they’ll never do it so we should just write them off as a lost cause and not get involved.
Michael V said:
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:No. We are awful people.
What do we buy off Israel that we can’t get from anyone else?
Military support from the USA.
We need to become more independent from the US too, and their various political lobby groups.
dv said:
In a resolution on the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination, adopted by a vote of 43 in favour, 2 against and 2 abstentions, the Council called upon all States to ensure their obligations of non-recognition, non-aid or assistance with regard to the serious breaches of peremptory norms of international law by Israel. The Council further urged all States to adopt measures as required to promote the realization of the right to self-determination of the Palestinian people, and to render assistance to the United Nations in carrying out the responsibilities entrusted to it by the Charter regarding the implementation of this right.
https://reliefweb.int/report/libya/human-rights-council-adopts-13-resolutions-requests-establishment-and-dispatch-fact
https://www.un.org/unispal/document/right-of-palestinian-people-to-self-determination-unhrc-34th-session-draft-resolution/
The full text:
Resolution on the Right of the Palestinian People to Self-Determination
In a resolution (A/HRC/43/L.39) on right of the Palestinian people to self-determination, adopted by a vote of 43 in favour, 2 against and 2 abstentions, the Council confirms that the right of the Palestinian people to permanent sovereignty over their natural wealth and resources must be used in the interest of their national development, the well-being of the Palestinian people and as part of the realization of their right to self-determination. The Council calls upon all States to ensure their obligations of non-recognition, non-aid or assistance with regard to the serious breaches of peremptory norms of international law by Israel, in particular of the prohibition of the acquisition of territory by force, in order to ensure the exercise of the right to self-determination, and also calls upon them to cooperate further to bring, through lawful means, an end to these serious breaches and a reversal of Israel’s illegal policies and practices. The Council further urges all States to adopt measures as required to promote the realization of the right to self-determination of the Palestinian people, and to render assistance to the United Nations in carrying out the responsibilities entrusted to it by the Charter regarding the implementation of this right.
party_pants said:
Cymek said:
party_pants said:What do we buy off Israel that we can’t get from anyone else?
Both sides really need to stop killing each other before any sort of equality and self determination can work
They need to abandon all three religions, tear down every mosque, every church and every synagogue, a rebuild completely from scratch a new secular and humanistic society. But they’ll never do it so we should just write them off as a lost cause and not get involved.
One does wonder about blocking access to shared holy sites until they can get along.
Cymek said:
party_pants said:
Cymek said:Both sides really need to stop killing each other before any sort of equality and self determination can work
They need to abandon all three religions, tear down every mosque, every church and every synagogue, a rebuild completely from scratch a new secular and humanistic society. But they’ll never do it so we should just write them off as a lost cause and not get involved.
One does wonder about blocking access to shared holy sites until they can get along.
Or Jerusalem could become a pocket country. Like the Vatican.
But we have all seen the maps of Israel’s takeover of Palestine. It isnt just about Jerusalem. they want it all.
I mean this is a pretty basic premise, indeed it was basically just an affirmation of standing UN policy on self-determination that is applied universally, effectively asking whether the UN Charter applies to Palestinians.
Australian answer: no.
Cymek said:
party_pants said:
Cymek said:Both sides really need to stop killing each other before any sort of equality and self determination can work
They need to abandon all three religions, tear down every mosque, every church and every synagogue, a rebuild completely from scratch a new secular and humanistic society. But they’ll never do it so we should just write them off as a lost cause and not get involved.
One does wonder about blocking access to shared holy sites until they can get along.
That will need quite a big army…
dv said:
I mean this is a pretty basic premise, indeed it was basically just an affirmation of standing UN policy on self-determination that is applied universally, effectively asking whether the UN Charter applies to Palestinians.Australian answer: no.
Except they had to throw in some stuff about Israel acquiring territory by force which dates back to 1973.
sibeen said:
dv said:
I mean this is a pretty basic premise, indeed it was basically just an affirmation of standing UN policy on self-determination that is applied universally, effectively asking whether the UN Charter applies to Palestinians.Australian answer: no.
Except they had to throw in some stuff about Israel acquiring territory by force which dates back to 1973.
Everyone else seems to have accepted that, even Germany and Japan, and they know a thing or two about acquiring territory by force.
dv said:
In a resolution on the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination, adopted by a vote of 43 in favour, 2 against and 2 abstentions, the Council called upon all States to ensure their obligations of non-recognition, non-aid or assistance with regard to the serious breaches of peremptory norms of international law by Israel. The Council further urged all States to adopt measures as required to promote the realization of the right to self-determination of the Palestinian people, and to render assistance to the United Nations in carrying out the responsibilities entrusted to it by the Charter regarding the implementation of this right.
https://reliefweb.int/report/libya/human-rights-council-adopts-13-resolutions-requests-establishment-and-dispatch-fact
https://www.un.org/unispal/document/right-of-palestinian-people-to-self-determination-unhrc-34th-session-draft-resolution/
Is this from 3 years ago, or something new?
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
dv said:
I mean this is a pretty basic premise, indeed it was basically just an affirmation of standing UN policy on self-determination that is applied universally, effectively asking whether the UN Charter applies to Palestinians.Australian answer: no.
Except they had to throw in some stuff about Israel acquiring territory by force which dates back to 1973.
Everyone else seems to have accepted that, even Germany and Japan, and they know a thing or two about acquiring territory by force.
You don’t see the Germans asking the UN for East Prussia back.
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:In a resolution on the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination, adopted by a vote of 43 in favour, 2 against and 2 abstentions, the Council called upon all States to ensure their obligations of non-recognition, non-aid or assistance with regard to the serious breaches of peremptory norms of international law by Israel. The Council further urged all States to adopt measures as required to promote the realization of the right to self-determination of the Palestinian people, and to render assistance to the United Nations in carrying out the responsibilities entrusted to it by the Charter regarding the implementation of this right.
https://reliefweb.int/report/libya/human-rights-council-adopts-13-resolutions-requests-establishment-and-dispatch-fact
https://www.un.org/unispal/document/right-of-palestinian-people-to-self-determination-unhrc-34th-session-draft-resolution/
Is this from 3 years ago, or something new?
Vote was two days ago.
sibeen said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:In a resolution on the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination, adopted by a vote of 43 in favour, 2 against and 2 abstentions, the Council called upon all States to ensure their obligations of non-recognition, non-aid or assistance with regard to the serious breaches of peremptory norms of international law by Israel. The Council further urged all States to adopt measures as required to promote the realization of the right to self-determination of the Palestinian people, and to render assistance to the United Nations in carrying out the responsibilities entrusted to it by the Charter regarding the implementation of this right.
https://reliefweb.int/report/libya/human-rights-council-adopts-13-resolutions-requests-establishment-and-dispatch-fact
https://www.un.org/unispal/document/right-of-palestinian-people-to-self-determination-unhrc-34th-session-draft-resolution/
Is this from 3 years ago, or something new?
Vote was two days ago.
Didn’t find anything on Google or even Bing.
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Is this from 3 years ago, or something new?
Vote was two days ago.
Didn’t find anything on Google or even Bing.
The first link suggests it was two days ago.
There were four resolutions voted on which had Israel as a central player. One of them mentioned East Jerusalem and surprise, surprise, whilst teh vote got across the line there were 9 abstentions. Oz voted against that one as well.
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:Except they had to throw in some stuff about Israel acquiring territory by force which dates back to 1973.
Everyone else seems to have accepted that, even Germany and Japan, and they know a thing or two about acquiring territory by force.
You don’t see the Germans asking the UN for East Prussia back.
Most German communities in Eastern Europe high-tailed it to the nations that now constitute Germany after the war. If the German speaking minorities still lived in Eastern Europe and indeed constituted a majority in some states perhaps there would be a case for what you questioned. However the Palestinian people in the West Bank never left so it is not an analogous situation.
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:Everyone else seems to have accepted that, even Germany and Japan, and they know a thing or two about acquiring territory by force.
You don’t see the Germans asking the UN for East Prussia back.
Most German communities in Eastern Europe high-tailed it to the nations that now constitute Germany after the war. If the German speaking minorities still lived in Eastern Europe and indeed constituted a majority in some states perhaps there would be a case for what you questioned. However the Palestinian people in the West Bank never left so it is not an analogous situation.
If by hightailed it you meant were forcibly removed, especially from East Prussia, then yep.
sibeen said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:Vote was two days ago.
Didn’t find anything on Google or even Bing.
The first link suggests it was two days ago.
There were four resolutions voted on which had Israel as a central player. One of them mentioned East Jerusalem and surprise, surprise, whilst teh vote got across the line there were 9 abstentions. Oz voted against that one as well.
Oh, we’re supposed to click links now are we?
So how come no USA for any of these votes?
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Didn’t find anything on Google or even Bing.
The first link suggests it was two days ago.
There were four resolutions voted on which had Israel as a central player. One of them mentioned East Jerusalem and surprise, surprise, whilst teh vote got across the line there were 9 abstentions. Oz voted against that one as well.
Oh, we’re supposed to click links now are we?
So how come no USA for any of these votes?
Off the top of my head, the United Nations Human Rights Council (UNHRC) is a United Nations body whose mission is to promote and protect human rights around the world. The UNHRC has 47 members elected for staggered three-year terms on a regional group basis. The headquarters of UNHRC is in Geneva, Switzerland. The USA is currently a member of the committee.
sibeen said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:The first link suggests it was two days ago.
There were four resolutions voted on which had Israel as a central player. One of them mentioned East Jerusalem and surprise, surprise, whilst teh vote got across the line there were 9 abstentions. Oz voted against that one as well.
Oh, we’re supposed to click links now are we?
So how come no USA for any of these votes?
Off the top of my head, the United Nations Human Rights Council (UNHRC) is a United Nations body whose mission is to promote and protect human rights around the world. The UNHRC has 47 members elected for staggered three-year terms on a regional group basis. The headquarters of UNHRC is in Geneva, Switzerland. The USA is currently a member of the committee.
The USA withdrew from the UNHCR in 2018. See https://www.npr.org/2018/06/19/621435225/u-s-announces-its-withdrawal-from-u-n-s-human-rights-council
sibeen said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:The first link suggests it was two days ago.
There were four resolutions voted on which had Israel as a central player. One of them mentioned East Jerusalem and surprise, surprise, whilst teh vote got across the line there were 9 abstentions. Oz voted against that one as well.
Oh, we’re supposed to click links now are we?
So how come no USA for any of these votes?
Off the top of my head, the United Nations Human Rights Council (UNHRC) is a United Nations body whose mission is to promote and protect human rights around the world. The UNHRC has 47 members elected for staggered three-year terms on a regional group basis. The headquarters of UNHRC is in Geneva, Switzerland. The USA is currently a member of the committee.
The USA is currently NOT a member of the committee.
btm said:
sibeen said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Oh, we’re supposed to click links now are we?
So how come no USA for any of these votes?
Off the top of my head, the United Nations Human Rights Council (UNHRC) is a United Nations body whose mission is to promote and protect human rights around the world. The UNHRC has 47 members elected for staggered three-year terms on a regional group basis. The headquarters of UNHRC is in Geneva, Switzerland. The USA is currently a member of the committee.
The USA withdrew from the UNHCR in 2018. See https://www.npr.org/2018/06/19/621435225/u-s-announces-its-withdrawal-from-u-n-s-human-rights-council
Just watched a Beau ..at much the same time the USA Chicago Law school studied 20 cities to see if they were in basic minimum compliance with standard human rights law.The upshot is that there are no requirements for such.
Let’s talk about a study about American law enforcement….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3bFJ0FOtjA
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-24/flatback-turtle-fitness-app-research-murdoch-university/12384484?fbclid=IwAR1OSu-fbNlOs7_0fjZ5KoyAFJGsSN5AgyxIkrYTa8lZKhNXwzHS-EJWnCI
A camera attached to a flatback turtle has recorded it successfully fighting off a tiger shark
I always thought it was curtains for a turtle who’d been identifies as a potential prey item, so this footage would be interesting to see.
identifies = identified
I just heard a large tree fall in a forest.
sarahs mum said:
I just heard a large tree fall in a forest.
was it a dull thunk or a sharp crack?
sarahs mum said:
I just heard a large tree fall in a forest.
Well that answers a question that was raised many years ago by Bruce Cockburn.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErS9HCh8GfE
dv said:
So one thing about Perth for astronomy is that winter is the rainy season. What would otherwise be a good opportunity for evening stargazing is messed up by clouds. At least in Qld the winters are dry.
What have you got against Summer skies?
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
I just heard a large tree fall in a forest.
was it a dull thunk or a sharp crack?
It was some cracking and then rumbling boom.
buffy said:
dv said:
So one thing about Perth for astronomy is that winter is the rainy season. What would otherwise be a good opportunity for evening stargazing is messed up by clouds. At least in Qld the winters are dry.
What have you got against Summer skies?
scintillation gets really bad. plus smoke. winter night after rain is best.
JudgeMental said:
buffy said:
dv said:
So one thing about Perth for astronomy is that winter is the rainy season. What would otherwise be a good opportunity for evening stargazing is messed up by clouds. At least in Qld the winters are dry.
What have you got against Summer skies?
scintillation gets really bad. plus smoke. winter night after rain is best.
You get the odd clear winter night, but they’re as cold as Alfolk.
party_pants said:
JudgeMental said:
buffy said:What have you got against Summer skies?
scintillation gets really bad. plus smoke. winter night after rain is best.
You get the odd clear winter night, but they’re as cold as Alfolk.
can’t have everything.
smashed that coffee + toast, couple slices bread before that with butter on, snuck a sweet biscuit in too
power eating, i’m king
Been to archery tonight.
Somewhat out of practice, although I should have photographed earlier before we were starting to get a bit tired.
………
Our bows
And Mr buffy’s trick shot. No rope was injured in this shot.
buffy said:
Been to archery tonight.
Somewhat out of practice, although I should have photographed earlier before we were starting to get a bit tired.
………
Our bows
And Mr buffy’s trick shot. No rope was injured in this shot.
I feel like these will great pictures for the police at any point in the future.
I’ve tried a few times to read that post you made earlier about the Irish Buffy. There is a waving woman to the left of screen and she is stopping me from reading. I wish she would go away because I did want to read.
Arts said:
buffy said:
Been to archery tonight.
Somewhat out of practice, although I should have photographed earlier before we were starting to get a bit tired.
………
Our bows
And Mr buffy’s trick shot. No rope was injured in this shot.
I feel like these will great pictures for the police at any point in the future.
They will show how poorly I shoot, so I couldn’t possibly have done it…
:)
I do shoot better if I bother to concentrate.
sarahs mum said:
I’ve tried a few times to read that post you made earlier about the Irish Buffy. There is a waving woman to the left of screen and she is stopping me from reading. I wish she would go away because I did want to read.
Yes, I had to put my hand over her. She is quite distracting.
buffy said:
sarahs mum said:
I’ve tried a few times to read that post you made earlier about the Irish Buffy. There is a waving woman to the left of screen and she is stopping me from reading. I wish she would go away because I did want to read.Yes, I had to put my hand over her. She is quite distracting.
Oh good. It isn’t just me.
buffy said:
Been to archery tonight.
Somewhat out of practice, although I should have photographed earlier before we were starting to get a bit tired.
………
Our bows
And Mr buffy’s trick shot. No rope was injured in this shot.
Oh these photos make me feel at home as somehow they have brought back memories. Not sure whether I actually have some kind of affinity with this place, or whether the history I have with archery ranges* is somehow coming back to me.
Speedy said:
buffy said:
Been to archery tonight.
Somewhat out of practice, although I should have photographed earlier before we were starting to get a bit tired.
………
Our bows
And Mr buffy’s trick shot. No rope was injured in this shot.
Oh these photos make me feel at home as somehow they have brought back memories. Not sure whether I actually have some kind of affinity with this place, or whether the history I have with archery ranges* is somehow coming back to me.
- As teenagers, my friends and I trespassed onto our local archery range and defiantly pushed over some of their targets. That showed them, to … um, get out of our neighbourhood! Yeah!
It’s the sheep pavillion at the Hamilton Showgrounds.
buffy said:
Speedy said:
buffy said:
Been to archery tonight.
Somewhat out of practice, although I should have photographed earlier before we were starting to get a bit tired.
………
Our bows
And Mr buffy’s trick shot. No rope was injured in this shot.
Oh these photos make me feel at home as somehow they have brought back memories. Not sure whether I actually have some kind of affinity with this place, or whether the history I have with archery ranges* is somehow coming back to me.
- As teenagers, my friends and I trespassed onto our local archery range and defiantly pushed over some of their targets. That showed them, to … um, get out of our neighbourhood! Yeah!
It’s the sheep pavillion at the Hamilton Showgrounds.
I think they reminded me a little of the Sovereign Hill Bowling Alley
dv said:
i didn’t think neutrons would have a polarity?
sarahs mum said:
I just heard a large tree fall in a forest.
Existentialist!
sarahs mum said:
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
I just heard a large tree fall in a forest.
was it a dull thunk or a sharp crack?
It was some cracking and then rumbling boom.
We’ve got lots of house-shaking booms at the moment (army practising 8 km away). We also have bush stone curlews calling.
they seem to have been a bit frightened, because their calls are unusual.
sibeen said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
sibeen said:You don’t see the Germans asking the UN for East Prussia back.
Most German communities in Eastern Europe high-tailed it to the nations that now constitute Germany after the war. If the German speaking minorities still lived in Eastern Europe and indeed constituted a majority in some states perhaps there would be a case for what you questioned. However the Palestinian people in the West Bank never left so it is not an analogous situation.
If by hightailed it you meant were forcibly removed, especially from East Prussia, then yep.
Not all Germans were expelled:
The removals occurred in three overlapping phases, the first of which was the organized evacuation of ethnic Germans by the Nazi government in the face of the advancing Red Army, from mid-1944 to early 1945. The second phase was the disorganised fleeing of ethnic Germans immediately following the Wehrmacht’s defeat. The third phase was a more organised expulsion following the Allied leaders’ Potsdam Agreement, which redefined the Central European borders and approved expulsions of ethnic Germans from the former German territories transferred to Poland, Russia and Czechoslovakia. Many German civilians were sent to internment and labour camps where they were used as forced labour as part of German reparations to countries in eastern Europe. The major expulsions were complete in 1950. Estimates for the total number of people of German ancestry still living in Central and Eastern Europe in 1950 range from 700,000 to 2.7 million.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_(1944–1950)
Speedy said:
I think they reminded me a little of the Sovereign Hill Bowling Alley
I worked there for a while in my late teens. It’s the only 9 pin bowling alley I’ve seen.
sarahs mum said:
I’ve tried a few times to read that post you made earlier about the Irish Buffy. There is a waving woman to the left of screen and she is stopping me from reading. I wish she would go away because I did want to read.
Yeah, that was very annoying.
The paper was unreferenced, so I don’t know what to make of it, but it seem substantial.
PermeateFree said:
:)
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
I’ve tried a few times to read that post you made earlier about the Irish Buffy. There is a waving woman to the left of screen and she is stopping me from reading. I wish she would go away because I did want to read.Yeah, that was very annoying.
The paper was unreferenced, so I don’t know what to make of it, but it seem substantial.
If you turn off automatic image downloading (exactly how to do it is different for different browsers, and even for the same browser between versions) the image doesn’t appear.
dv said:
nfi, sorry.
…it is not unknawin how the Franchmen hes begun mair nor 20 dayis to fortifie the toun of Leyth, tending thairthrow to expell the inhabitantis thairoff and plant thame selffis, thair wyffis and bairnis thairintill suppressing the libertie of this realme
written in 1559. Almost readable.
btm said:
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
I’ve tried a few times to read that post you made earlier about the Irish Buffy. There is a waving woman to the left of screen and she is stopping me from reading. I wish she would go away because I did want to read.Yeah, that was very annoying.
The paper was unreferenced, so I don’t know what to make of it, but it seem substantial.
If you turn off automatic image downloading (exactly how to do it is different for different browsers, and even for the same browser between versions) the image doesn’t appear.
Thanks. Just checked. I have to specify sites. I’ll check how, next time I use SciHub.
I suppose they’ve got to fund their efforts somehow…
buffy said:
dv said:
So one thing about Perth for astronomy is that winter is the rainy season. What would otherwise be a good opportunity for evening stargazing is messed up by clouds. At least in Qld the winters are dry.
What have you got against Summer skies?
The period of time during which they are quite dark is briefer. Indeed, Astronomical twilight in a Perth midsummer ends at 9:06pm, which is after my son’s bedtime.
Michael V said:
btm said:
Michael V said:Yeah, that was very annoying.
The paper was unreferenced, so I don’t know what to make of it, but it seem substantial.
If you turn off automatic image downloading (exactly how to do it is different for different browsers, and even for the same browser between versions) the image doesn’t appear.
Thanks. Just checked. I have to specify sites. I’ll check how, next time I use SciHub.
I suppose they’ve got to fund their efforts somehow…
just download it and read it whenever.
sarahs mum said:
…it is not unknawin how the Franchmen hes begun mair nor 20 dayis to fortifie the toun of Leyth, tending thairthrow to expell the inhabitantis thairoff and plant thame selffis, thair wyffis and bairnis thairintill suppressing the libertie of this realmewritten in 1559. Almost readable.
The language seems to have changed somewhat in my lifetime. I expect another 400-odd years would do that…
JudgeMental said:
Michael V said:
btm said:If you turn off automatic image downloading (exactly how to do it is different for different browsers, and even for the same browser between versions) the image doesn’t appear.
Thanks. Just checked. I have to specify sites. I’ll check how, next time I use SciHub.
I suppose they’ve got to fund their efforts somehow…
just download it and read it whenever.
What link has this annoying woman?
JudgeMental said:
Michael V said:
btm said:If you turn off automatic image downloading (exactly how to do it is different for different browsers, and even for the same browser between versions) the image doesn’t appear.
Thanks. Just checked. I have to specify sites. I’ll check how, next time I use SciHub.
I suppose they’ve got to fund their efforts somehow…
just download it and read it whenever.
Thanks. I didn’t see that I could do that. I’ll try. Cheers.
Witty Rejoinder said:
JudgeMental said:
Michael V said:Thanks. Just checked. I have to specify sites. I’ll check how, next time I use SciHub.
I suppose they’ve got to fund their efforts somehow…
just download it and read it whenever.
What link has this annoying woman?
https://www.pewresearch.org/methods/u-s-survey-research/our-survey-methodology-in-detail/
Michael V said:
JudgeMental said:
Michael V said:Thanks. Just checked. I have to specify sites. I’ll check how, next time I use SciHub.
I suppose they’ve got to fund their efforts somehow…
just download it and read it whenever.
Thanks. I didn’t see that I could do that. I’ll try. Cheers.
mine will go to download automatically. Right folder. Just have to OK it.
“Hereupon they grewe very short in strength of men, and no lesse short in provision of foode for those men which they had; the one happeninge to tress for them by the force of their enimies, the other either by disabilitie or negligence of their freinds; so, their old stoore beinge spent, they were inforced to make use of every thinge out of which hunger was able to drawe nourishement. The fleshe of horses was then more daintie then ever they esteemed venison before; doggs, catts, and vermine of more vile nature were highelie valued; vines were striped of their leaves and tender stalkes; grasse and weedes were picked up, and, beinge well seasoned with hunger, were reputed amonge (them) for dainties and dilicate dishes.”
Holinshed mentions Hayward’s source, Scattergood, as a spy who entered Leith pretending to be a fugitive or deserter. Peter Carew reported on 28 May 1560 that the French had no meat or drink except water for three weeks. There was only bread and salted salmon. These were rationed with 126 ounces of bread for a man each day and a salmon between six men each week. There were 2,300 French soldiers in Leith and more than 2,000 others.
After Mary of Guise died, a week’s truce was declared on Monday 17 June. On 20 June, French and English soldiers ate together on the beach. Captain Vaughan, Andrew Corbett, Edward Fitton and their men brought beef, bacon, poultry, wine and beer: the French brought cold roast capon, a horse pie and six roast rats.
Rule 303 said:
Excellent!
;)
Michael V said:
dv said:
nfi, sorry.
Wilhelmina Hartnell, Patricia Troughton, Joanna Pertwee etc.
sarahs mum said:
“Hereupon they grewe very short in strength of men, and no lesse short in provision of foode for those men which they had; the one happeninge to tress for them by the force of their enimies, the other either by disabilitie or negligence of their freinds; so, their old stoore beinge spent, they were inforced to make use of every thinge out of which hunger was able to drawe nourishement. The fleshe of horses was then more daintie then ever they esteemed venison before; doggs, catts, and vermine of more vile nature were highelie valued; vines were striped of their leaves and tender stalkes; grasse and weedes were picked up, and, beinge well seasoned with hunger, were reputed amonge (them) for dainties and dilicate dishes.”Holinshed mentions Hayward’s source, Scattergood, as a spy who entered Leith pretending to be a fugitive or deserter. Peter Carew reported on 28 May 1560 that the French had no meat or drink except water for three weeks. There was only bread and salted salmon. These were rationed with 126 ounces of bread for a man each day and a salmon between six men each week. There were 2,300 French soldiers in Leith and more than 2,000 others.
After Mary of Guise died, a week’s truce was declared on Monday 17 June. On 20 June, French and English soldiers ate together on the beach. Captain Vaughan, Andrew Corbett, Edward Fitton and their men brought beef, bacon, poultry, wine and beer: the French brought cold roast capon, a horse pie and six roast rats.
126 ounces of bread must be wrong.
dv said:
Michael V said:
dv said:
nfi, sorry.
Wilhelmina Hartnell, Patricia Troughton, Joanna Pertwee etc.
that was a bit obscure.
Witty Rejoinder said:
JudgeMental said:
Michael V said:Thanks. Just checked. I have to specify sites. I’ll check how, next time I use SciHub.
I suppose they’ve got to fund their efforts somehow…
just download it and read it whenever.
What link has this annoying woman?
But I don’t wanna search all the way back down there….
storms out in tears
sarahs mum said:
“Hereupon they grewe very short in strength of men, and no lesse short in provision of foode for those men which they had; the one happeninge to tress for them by the force of their enimies, the other either by disabilitie or negligence of their freinds; so, their old stoore beinge spent, they were inforced to make use of every thinge out of which hunger was able to drawe nourishement. The fleshe of horses was then more daintie then ever they esteemed venison before; doggs, catts, and vermine of more vile nature were highelie valued; vines were striped of their leaves and tender stalkes; grasse and weedes were picked up, and, beinge well seasoned with hunger, were reputed amonge (them) for dainties and dilicate dishes.”Holinshed mentions Hayward’s source, Scattergood, as a spy who entered Leith pretending to be a fugitive or deserter. Peter Carew reported on 28 May 1560 that the French had no meat or drink except water for three weeks. There was only bread and salted salmon. These were rationed with 126 ounces of bread for a man each day and a salmon between six men each week. There were 2,300 French soldiers in Leith and more than 2,000 others.
After Mary of Guise died, a week’s truce was declared on Monday 17 June. On 20 June, French and English soldiers ate together on the beach. Captain Vaughan, Andrew Corbett, Edward Fitton and their men brought beef, bacon, poultry, wine and beer: the French brought cold roast capon, a horse pie and six roast rats.
Well, there you go. Our privations are minimal.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
JudgeMental said:just download it and read it whenever.
What link has this annoying woman?
But I don’t wanna search all the way back down there….
storms out in tears
https://sci-hub.tw/https://doi.org/10.1016/0191-6599(94)90043-4
dv said:
Michael V said:
dv said:
nfi, sorry.
Wilhelmina Hartnell, Patricia Troughton, Joanna Pertwee etc.
It still makes no sense to me. But I do see your Dr. Who players references -once removed.
JudgeMental said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Witty Rejoinder said:What link has this annoying woman?
But I don’t wanna search all the way back down there….
storms out in tears
https://sci-hub.tw/https://doi.org/10.1016/0191-6599(94)90043-4
You’re a gentleman and a scholar.
Witty Rejoinder said:
JudgeMental said:
Witty Rejoinder said:But I don’t wanna search all the way back down there….
storms out in tears
https://sci-hub.tw/https://doi.org/10.1016/0191-6599(94)90043-4
You’re a gentleman and a scholar.
no worries. I have a new mouse and keyboard so still getting used to its quirks. hence the anomalous link in the last post.
PermeateFree said:
Hangover etymology? Really?
History revision, I suspect.
Big surprise
https://i.imgur.com/xJEyal3.mp4
Michael V said:
PermeateFree said:
Hangover etymology? Really?
History revision, I suspect.
Folk etymology; in Balzac’s The Magic Skin (1895) one of the characters says, “We … made it a point of honour to find out whether you were roosting in a tree in the Champs-Elyses, or in one of those philanthropic abodes where the beggars sleep on a twopenny rope.” but the word for the after-effects of overindulgence in alcohol come from the idea of things being left over.
PermeateFree said:
It defies reason and explanation that they would not just collapse on the ground. Are we expected to believe that, even though they were intoxicated to a stupor, their legs held them up while they slept?
I don’t know what’s going on in the photo, but this explanation is bullshit.
Michael V said:
PermeateFree said:
Hangover etymology? Really?
History revision, I suspect.
The four penny coffin or coffin house was one of the first homeless shelters created for the people of central London. It was operated by the Salvation Army during the late 19th and early 20th centuries to provide comfort and aid to its destitute clients.
The Salvation Army operated other homeless shelters in the area. These shelters charged the clients different amounts depending on the amenities offered. At the low end was a penny sit-up, where a homeless client could get food and shelter from the cold in exchange for a penny. He was allowed to sit on a bench all night, but was not allowed to sleep. For an additional penny, there was the “two penny hangover”. It was like a penny sit-up except that a rope was placed in front of the bench. The client was allowed to sleep when he leaned on (or hung over) the rope during the night. He was not allowed to lie down flat on his back and sleep.
For four pennies, a homeless client could stay at a coffin house. He received food and shelter. Moreover, he was allowed to lie down flat on his back and sleep in a coffin-shaped wooden box. The client was given a tarpaulin for covering. What made this unique is that it was the cheapest homeless shelter in London at that time that allowed its clients to lie down on their back and sleep. The Salvation Army also offered shelters that allowed its clients to sleep on a bed for a much higher price. Hence, the coffin house was popular because it offered an economical and mid-range solution for homeless clients looking for relief from the cold.
Compared with modern examples, this shelter is considered inadequate. It was, however, considered an inexpensive and compassionate attempt to deal with the relatively new problem of homelessness. This shelter provided relief from the harsh London winters and was viewed by many at the time as having the benefit of attracting new followers to Christianity.
Wikipedia
Rule 303 said:
PermeateFree said:
It defies reason and explanation that they would not just collapse on the ground. Are we expected to believe that, even though they were intoxicated to a stupor, their legs held them up while they slept?
I don’t know what’s going on in the photo, but this explanation is bullshit.
That really was a way destitute and impecunious people slept; it’s mentioned in at least one of the Sherlock Holmes stories, and was used in England at least until the 1950s. It’s not the etymology of the word hungover, though.
PermeateFree said:
Michael V said:
PermeateFree said:
Hangover etymology? Really?
History revision, I suspect.
The four penny coffin or coffin house was one of the first homeless shelters created for the people of central London. It was operated by the Salvation Army during the late 19th and early 20th centuries to provide comfort and aid to its destitute clients.
The Salvation Army operated other homeless shelters in the area. These shelters charged the clients different amounts depending on the amenities offered. At the low end was a penny sit-up, where a homeless client could get food and shelter from the cold in exchange for a penny. He was allowed to sit on a bench all night, but was not allowed to sleep. For an additional penny, there was the “two penny hangover”. It was like a penny sit-up except that a rope was placed in front of the bench. The client was allowed to sleep when he leaned on (or hung over) the rope during the night. He was not allowed to lie down flat on his back and sleep.
For four pennies, a homeless client could stay at a coffin house. He received food and shelter. Moreover, he was allowed to lie down flat on his back and sleep in a coffin-shaped wooden box. The client was given a tarpaulin for covering. What made this unique is that it was the cheapest homeless shelter in London at that time that allowed its clients to lie down on their back and sleep. The Salvation Army also offered shelters that allowed its clients to sleep on a bed for a much higher price. Hence, the coffin house was popular because it offered an economical and mid-range solution for homeless clients looking for relief from the cold.
Compared with modern examples, this shelter is considered inadequate. It was, however, considered an inexpensive and compassionate attempt to deal with the relatively new problem of homelessness. This shelter provided relief from the harsh London winters and was viewed by many at the time as having the benefit of attracting new followers to Christianity.
Wikipedia
I think the phrase ‘a rope was placed in front of the bench’ describes something completely different to this photo – If it’s true.
Rule 303 said:
PermeateFree said:
It defies reason and explanation that they would not just collapse on the ground. Are we expected to believe that, even though they were intoxicated to a stupor, their legs held them up while they slept?
I don’t know what’s going on in the photo, but this explanation is bullshit.
Apparently they were supposed to be seated on benches and the rope strung above the table. Not standing.
I did a little googling.
btm said:
Rule 303 said:
PermeateFree said:
It defies reason and explanation that they would not just collapse on the ground. Are we expected to believe that, even though they were intoxicated to a stupor, their legs held them up while they slept?
I don’t know what’s going on in the photo, but this explanation is bullshit.
That really was a way destitute and impecunious people slept; it’s mentioned in at least one of the Sherlock Holmes stories, and was used in England at least until the 1950s. It’s not the etymology of the word hungover, though.
Why (and how) would they not just collapse onto the ground?
Mate, I read the whole book* and I don’t remember anything about this bullshittery.
And, the photo. Thinking about the technology at the time – How was that taken?
*The condition of the working class in England in 1844 by Friedrich Engels
Just returned from a walk around the block with the dog. We found another little dog roaming around lost, so called the number on its tag. The lady I spoke with came running from a nearby house, astounded that her Poppy was outside, but relieved that she had been found. We have since been texted blessings and a wishes that good karma follows us everywhere, so with that, I’ll be off to bed. Goodnight :)
Rule 303 said:
btm said:
Rule 303 said:It defies reason and explanation that they would not just collapse on the ground. Are we expected to believe that, even though they were intoxicated to a stupor, their legs held them up while they slept?
I don’t know what’s going on in the photo, but this explanation is bullshit.
That really was a way destitute and impecunious people slept; it’s mentioned in at least one of the Sherlock Holmes stories, and was used in England at least until the 1950s. It’s not the etymology of the word hungover, though.
Why (and how) would they not just collapse onto the ground?
Mate, I read the whole book* and I don’t remember anything about this bullshittery.
And, the photo. Thinking about the technology at the time – How was that taken?
*The condition of the working class in England in 1844 by Friedrich Engels
late 1800 they had pretty good photography.
What a shot
https://i.imgur.com/GT9sJZY.mp4
Speedy said:
Just returned from a walk around the block with the dog. We found another little dog roaming around lost, so called the number on its tag. The lady I spoke with came running from a nearby house, astounded that her Poppy was outside, but relieved that she had been found. We have since been texted blessings and a wishes that good karma follows us everywhere, so with that, I’ll be off to bed. Goodnight :)
Go home Poppy.
Sleep well Speedy.

JudgeMental said:
Rule 303 said:
btm said:That really was a way destitute and impecunious people slept; it’s mentioned in at least one of the Sherlock Holmes stories, and was used in England at least until the 1950s. It’s not the etymology of the word hungover, though.
Why (and how) would they not just collapse onto the ground?
Mate, I read the whole book* and I don’t remember anything about this bullshittery.
And, the photo. Thinking about the technology at the time – How was that taken?
*The condition of the working class in England in 1844 by Friedrich Engels
late 1800 they had pretty good photography.
Orright. They decided to light this scene, of a bunch of drunks sleeping standing up, from the left, for no apparent reason. I wonder how they synchronised the flash to the camera over a distance of 25 feet?
Rule 303 said:
btm said:
Rule 303 said:It defies reason and explanation that they would not just collapse on the ground. Are we expected to believe that, even though they were intoxicated to a stupor, their legs held them up while they slept?
I don’t know what’s going on in the photo, but this explanation is bullshit.
That really was a way destitute and impecunious people slept; it’s mentioned in at least one of the Sherlock Holmes stories, and was used in England at least until the 1950s. It’s not the etymology of the word hungover, though.
Why (and how) would they not just collapse onto the ground?
Mate, I read the whole book* and I don’t remember anything about this bullshittery.
And, the photo. Thinking about the technology at the time – How was that taken?
*The condition of the working class in England in 1844 by Friedrich Engels
Have things changed that much?
Rule 303 said:
JudgeMental said:
Rule 303 said:Why (and how) would they not just collapse onto the ground?
Mate, I read the whole book* and I don’t remember anything about this bullshittery.
And, the photo. Thinking about the technology at the time – How was that taken?
*The condition of the working class in England in 1844 by Friedrich Engels
late 1800 they had pretty good photography.
Orright. They decided to light this scene, of a bunch of drunks sleeping standing up, from the left, for no apparent reason. I wonder how they synchronised the flash to the camera over a distance of 25 feet?
what? It could have been staged. didn’t have to synchronise the flash in those days. Open shutter, set off flash, close shutter. plus it is the caption only that says Victorian we have know real knowledge of when it was actually taken.
JudgeMental said:
Sleeping on a rope
Ahh yes, now I understand the strong sense of De Ja Moo. I have dismissed this as bullshit before.
Building houses, keeping warm, fertilising your veges and your conversations. These are the uses for bullshit. Re-constructing history not so much.
Neophyte said:
JudgeMental said:
Sleeping on a rope
Soap on a rope was popular about 50 years ago.
It’s what I keep buying Boris for his birthday. He’s decided he’s not going to have any more so I’m off the hook.
Neophyte said:
JudgeMental said:
Sleeping on a rope
Soap on a rope was popular about 50 years ago.
after sliced bread the greatest invention.
Rule 303 said:
JudgeMental said:
Sleeping on a rope
Ahh yes, now I understand the strong sense of De Ja Moo. I have dismissed this as bullshit before.
Building houses, keeping warm, fertilising your veges and your conversations. These are the uses for bullshit. Re-constructing history not so much.
wtf are you on about?
sibeen said:
Neophyte said:
JudgeMental said:
Sleeping on a rope
Soap on a rope was popular about 50 years ago.
It’s what I keep buying Boris for his birthday. He’s decided he’s not going to have any more so I’m off the hook.
being a pom I have about 10 lifetimes worth.
JudgeMental said:
sibeen said:
Neophyte said:Soap on a rope was popular about 50 years ago.
It’s what I keep buying Boris for his birthday. He’s decided he’s not going to have any more so I’m off the hook.
being a pom I have about 10 lifetimes worth.
Yeah, well I’ve got two rooms in this house just filled with the shit. You better come over and get your presents some day or I’m going to start charging you storage fees.
JudgeMental said:
Rule 303 said:
JudgeMental said:
Sleeping on a rope
Ahh yes, now I understand the strong sense of De Ja Moo. I have dismissed this as bullshit before.
Building houses, keeping warm, fertilising your veges and your conversations. These are the uses for bullshit. Re-constructing history not so much.
wtf are you on about?
You want it louder or slower?
Are you there DV? Do you an arctic update? Facebook is saying to me that the arctic circle is having 45 degrees!
sarahs mum said:
Are you there DV? Do you an arctic update? Facebook is saying to me that the arctic circle is having 45 degrees!
I read the other day that somewhere within the arctic circle did get to 100°F.
°
°
sarahs mum said:
Are you there DV? Do you an arctic update? Facebook is saying to me that the arctic circle is having 45 degrees!
Yes I’ve rather been waiting on the next report from NSIDC, planning on a thread then. There’s rather a heat wave underway in Siberia.
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
Are you there DV? Do you an arctic update? Facebook is saying to me that the arctic circle is having 45 degrees!
I read the other day that somewhere within the arctic circle did get to 100°F.
°°
I heard 38 C, but then I prefer metric sources :)
dv said:
sarahs mum said:
Are you there DV? Do you an arctic update? Facebook is saying to me that the arctic circle is having 45 degrees!
Yes I’ve rather been waiting on the next report from NSIDC, planning on a thread then. There’s rather a heat wave underway in Siberia.
I’ll wait with you then.
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
Are you there DV? Do you an arctic update? Facebook is saying to me that the arctic circle is having 45 degrees!
I read the other day that somewhere within the arctic circle did get to 100°F.
°°
I heard 38 C, but then I prefer metric sources :)
It was a USA news operation. They’re ignorant but I’m forgiving and make allowances. I’m good like that.
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:I read the other day that somewhere within the arctic circle did get to 100°F.
°°
I heard 38 C, but then I prefer metric sources :)
It was a USA news operation. They’re ignorant but I’m forgiving and make allowances. I’m good like that.
Everyday I feel more that someone should say put that USA down and back away from it.
sarahs mum said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:I heard 38 C, but then I prefer metric sources :)
It was a USA news operation. They’re ignorant but I’m forgiving and make allowances. I’m good like that.
Everyday I feel more that someone should say put that USA down and back away from it.
Lay it over and dig it in. It’ll be right in a couple of years.
Aaaanndd now the muppets are stockpiling poo tickets again in Victoria.
God helps us all.
Rule 303 said:
Aaaanndd now the muppets are stockpiling poo tickets again in Victoria.God helps us all.
And it’s not even BS.
PermeateFree said:
Rule 303 said:
Aaaanndd now the muppets are stockpiling poo tickets again in Victoria.God helps us all.
And it’s not even BS.
the real question is, why the fuck do people not learn, and have reserve, it’s not like bushfire didn’t happen, it’s not like first wave didn’t happen
She came from Providence, the one in Rhode Island
Where the old world shadows hang heavy in the air
She packed her hopes and dreams like a refugee,
Just as her father came across the sea
Answers never clear again
This turning of the page
This turn look away
There I took a left turning
Before I came of age
I agreed to let it out
I agreed to let it go
I agreed to turn around
I agreed to turn my face away
Danger is the most important
Fear you’ll ever know
The transporting of refugees
The silent night is cold
And all the time
We looked around
As we were never told
But we agreed to let it out
We agreed to let it go
We agreed to turn our backs
We agreed to turn our face away, away
Thousands to the million
Sisters, grandmothers and more
It’s not the feast we throw away
It’s the way we close the door
Their silence deafens every sound
We try just to ignore
To waste their future freedom
We’ll regret forever more
I believe in
I believe in
These are the days that we will talk about
I believe in
I believe in
One understanding what is real
If we are one
Then we are refugees
We are the prisoners of our own design
If we are one
Seen through the eyes of a child
We will perpetuate this song of love
If we are one
Seen through the eyes of a child
We will perpetuate this song of love
If we are one
Seen through the eyes of a child
We will perpetuate this song
Perpetuate this song of love
We Agree, Yes. 10/Sept/2001
I’ve decided. I’m no fan of the pod style coffee machine.
Reasons;
The instructions on this site
Do not tell me that I have to insert the pod down and towards the outlet. Dropping the pod in sees it go straighht to the bottom tray.
No matter, solved that.
The long coffee barely holds a thimble full. It isn’t piping hot, which may be why they gave it to the Salvos.
Conclusion; This isn’t the kind of coffee I’m used to.

Morning.
Good morning Holidayers. Five degrees, clearish sky and about half light so far. Sunrise in about half an hour. Our forecast for today is for a few showers and 14 degrees.
Our Thursday Breakfast Friend will be here in half an hour for our walk to the bakery and bring back food to eat at the kitchen table in front of the woodheater. We’d been hoping to be able to eat in at the bakery soon, but that’s not going to happen for a while yet. Food gets cold carrying it home.
Morning buffy. Few showers expected here from late morning.
I was hoping to do some shopping early to avoid the rain, but it’s so foggy out there I’d end up soaked anyway.
Might have cleared somewhat in an hour or so.
Morning’.
Eight degrees here, going for a sunny top of 21.
Today’s activities include doing a mystery shop and working on my first novel readying it for publication.
Yesterday the mystery shop people sent me a text, they’re desperate for a shop to be done by the end of this week. I don’t have to buy anything for it. But I do have to give them a very specific address and I wonder if they know it’s a mystery shop just by that address? Each state has a different specific address but I have to give the one suitable for my state.
Oh and Jellybean is in trouble for nicking some of Mini Me’s pikelets.
Divine Angel said:
Oh and Jellybean is in trouble for nicking some of Mini Me’s pikelets.
Mini Me needs to learn to keep the dog in control.
Divine Angel said:
Morning’.Eight degrees here, going for a sunny top of 21.
Today’s activities include doing a mystery shop and working on my first novel readying it for publication.
Yesterday the mystery shop people sent me a text, they’re desperate for a shop to be done by the end of this week. I don’t have to buy anything for it. But I do have to give them a very specific address and I wonder if they know it’s a mystery shop just by that address? Each state has a different specific address but I have to give the one suitable for my state.
What kind of shop?
Bubblecar said:
Divine Angel said:
Morning’.Eight degrees here, going for a sunny top of 21.
Today’s activities include doing a mystery shop and working on my first novel readying it for publication.
Yesterday the mystery shop people sent me a text, they’re desperate for a shop to be done by the end of this week. I don’t have to buy anything for it. But I do have to give them a very specific address and I wonder if they know it’s a mystery shop just by that address? Each state has a different specific address but I have to give the one suitable for my state.
What kind of shop?
Telecommunications. I’m searching for new internet connection.
Bubblecar said:
Divine Angel said:
Morning’.Eight degrees here, going for a sunny top of 21.
Today’s activities include doing a mystery shop and working on my first novel readying it for publication.
Yesterday the mystery shop people sent me a text, they’re desperate for a shop to be done by the end of this week. I don’t have to buy anything for it. But I do have to give them a very specific address and I wonder if they know it’s a mystery shop just by that address? Each state has a different specific address but I have to give the one suitable for my state.
What kind of shop?
It is a mystery.
(CNN)She’s officially the fastest woman on Earth.
Race car driver Jessi Combs was posthumously awarded the fastest land speed record by a female this week when Guinness World Records posted it that it counted her speed, meaning she officially broke the record.
Combs, 39, died last year in an accident on the day of the attempt in the Alvord Desert in southeast Oregon.
Combs broke the record by clocking a speed of 522.783 mph in a jet-powered car. She’s the first person to break the record in more than 40 years, Guinness said.
—-
Rule 303 said:
Building houses, keeping warm, fertilising your veges and your conversations. These are the uses for bullshit. Re-constructing history not so much.
Very profound :)
dv said:
(CNN)She’s officially the fastest woman on Earth.Race car driver Jessi Combs was posthumously awarded the fastest land speed record by a female this week when Guinness World Records posted it that it counted her speed, meaning she officially broke the record.
Combs, 39, died last year in an accident on the day of the attempt in the Alvord Desert in southeast Oregon.
Combs broke the record by clocking a speed of 522.783 mph in a jet-powered car. She’s the first person to break the record in more than 40 years, Guinness said.
—-
It’s pretty sad that driving a car so fast that you are likely to die is still seen as an activity to be admired and promoted.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Rule 303 said:Building houses, keeping warm, fertilising your veges and your conversations. These are the uses for bullshit. Re-constructing history not so much.
Very profound :)
Bullshit grows new feed and ends up being back at the bullshit stage before long.
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
(CNN)She’s officially the fastest woman on Earth.Race car driver Jessi Combs was posthumously awarded the fastest land speed record by a female this week when Guinness World Records posted it that it counted her speed, meaning she officially broke the record.
Combs, 39, died last year in an accident on the day of the attempt in the Alvord Desert in southeast Oregon.
Combs broke the record by clocking a speed of 522.783 mph in a jet-powered car. She’s the first person to break the record in more than 40 years, Guinness said.
—-It’s pretty sad that driving a car so fast that you are likely to die is still seen as an activity to be admired and promoted.
Isn’t it in the pursuit of science?
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
(CNN)She’s officially the fastest woman on Earth.Race car driver Jessi Combs was posthumously awarded the fastest land speed record by a female this week when Guinness World Records posted it that it counted her speed, meaning she officially broke the record.
Combs, 39, died last year in an accident on the day of the attempt in the Alvord Desert in southeast Oregon.
Combs broke the record by clocking a speed of 522.783 mph in a jet-powered car. She’s the first person to break the record in more than 40 years, Guinness said.
—-It’s pretty sad that driving a car so fast that you are likely to die is still seen as an activity to be admired and promoted.
Isn’t it in the pursuit of science?
Marie Curie was a pioneer who gave her life to the pursuit of science?
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Rule 303 said:Building houses, keeping warm, fertilising your veges and your conversations. These are the uses for bullshit. Re-constructing history not so much.
Very profound :)
Bullshit grows new feed and ends up being back at the bullshit stage before long.
Sorry, The Dodgson Award for Great Profundity can only be awarded once in any 24 hour period.
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:It’s pretty sad that driving a car so fast that you are likely to die is still seen as an activity to be admired and promoted.
Isn’t it in the pursuit of science?
Marie Curie was a pioneer who gave her life to the pursuit of science?
I don’t really see how driving a car at speeds where at least the designers know it is inherently unstable is advancing science.
Not comparable to Marie Curie at all.
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Very profound :)
Bullshit grows new feed and ends up being back at the bullshit stage before long.
Sorry, The Dodgson Award for Great Profundity can only be awarded once in any 24 hour period.
That’s no worries mate. ;)
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:Isn’t it in the pursuit of science?
Marie Curie was a pioneer who gave her life to the pursuit of science?
I don’t really see how driving a car at speeds where at least the designers know it is inherently unstable is advancing science.
Not comparable to Marie Curie at all.
Fair assessment. I do agree that it seems an unnecessary waste of intelligence.
dv said:
Pfft snowflakes
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:Isn’t it in the pursuit of science?
Marie Curie was a pioneer who gave her life to the pursuit of science?
I don’t really see how driving a car at speeds where at least the designers know it is inherently unstable is advancing science.
Not comparable to Marie Curie at all.
True, more like flying a ceramic jar at 30000 km/h knowing that the icing would really bake the cake when you’re coming in to land the next time.
Comparable to Lady Godiva.
Difficult to get photographer and subject to remain still while leaning full stretch to avoid standing on newly transplanted everlastings. A slight and unpredictable breeze strength not helping.
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
(CNN)She’s officially the fastest woman on Earth.Race car driver Jessi Combs was posthumously awarded the fastest land speed record by a female this week when Guinness World Records posted it that it counted her speed, meaning she officially broke the record.
Combs, 39, died last year in an accident on the day of the attempt in the Alvord Desert in southeast Oregon.
Combs broke the record by clocking a speed of 522.783 mph in a jet-powered car. She’s the first person to break the record in more than 40 years, Guinness said.
—-It’s pretty sad that driving a car so fast that you are likely to die is still seen as an activity to be admired and promoted.
up there (NPI) with climbing Everest
sibeen said:
JudgeMental said:
sibeen said:It’s what I keep buying Boris for his birthday. He’s decided he’s not going to have any more so I’m off the hook.
being a pom I have about 10 lifetimes worth.
Yeah, well I’ve got two rooms in this house just filled with the shit. You better come over and get your presents some day or I’m going to start charging you storage fees.
let me know when you’re in yarrabloodywonga and I be there.
JudgeMental said:
sibeen said:
JudgeMental said:being a pom I have about 10 lifetimes worth.
Yeah, well I’ve got two rooms in this house just filled with the shit. You better come over and get your presents some day or I’m going to start charging you storage fees.
let me know when you’re in yarrabloodywonga and I be there.
I’d reckon Yarrabloodywonga is close enough for me to deliver my presents to you.
I’ll bet that many don’t grow this bit of bush tucker n thir gardens deliberately.
As seawater freezes in the polar oceans, salt brine concentrates are expelled from the sea ice, creating a downward flow of dense, extremely cold and saline water with a lower freezing point than the surrounding water. When this plume comes into contact with the neighboring ocean water, its extremely cold temperature causes ice to instantly form around the flow. This creates a hollow stalactite, or icicle, referred to as a brinicle.
Finger of Death https://9gag.com/gag/a5Wo3ZG
Back. Got what I thought was the right bulb for the new lamp, but it’s still too big :(
Bubblecar said:
Back. Got what I thought was the right bulb for the new lamp, but it’s still too big :(
Damn
dv said:
Bubblecar said:
Back. Got what I thought was the right bulb for the new lamp, but it’s still too big :(
Damn
What happened to measure thrice?
roughbarked said:
dv said:
Bubblecar said:
Back. Got what I thought was the right bulb for the new lamp, but it’s still too big :(
Damn
What happened to measure thrice?
What?
When did it escalate to thrice?
1941, Norfolk Virginia. Odd assortment of junk in that window.
Bubblecar said:
1941, Norfolk Virginia. Odd assortment of junk in that window.
Greetings
Cymek said:
Greetings
Buenos días.
Dog & cat showdown unfolding in the background there.
March 1941. “Sailor’s wife living in trailer camp for construction workers near Navy yard. Portsmouth, Virginia.”
Bubblecar said:
Dog & cat showdown unfolding in the background there.March 1941. “Sailor’s wife living in trailer camp for construction workers near Navy yard. Portsmouth, Virginia.”
Same lady inside her trailer.
Bubblecar said:
Dog & cat showdown unfolding in the background there.March 1941. “Sailor’s wife living in trailer camp for construction workers near Navy yard. Portsmouth, Virginia.”
The cat and dog in the background is amusing
Brought the wrong glasses with me to work, they aren’t good for close up work, nothing is better
Cymek said:
Brought the wrong glasses with me to work, they aren’t good for close up work, nothing is better
Ah well, take the day off.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Dog & cat showdown unfolding in the background there.March 1941. “Sailor’s wife living in trailer camp for construction workers near Navy yard. Portsmouth, Virginia.”
Same lady inside her trailer.
A sailor’s wife,
She is a merry wife.
(To misquote my favourite Fairport Convention song)
1941. “Negro children standing in front of half-mile concrete wall, Detroit, Michigan. This wall was built in August 1941 to separate the Negro section from a white housing development going up on the other side.” Acetate negative by John Vachon.
Cymek said:
nothing is better
high praise
Bubblecar said:
Cymek said:
Brought the wrong glasses with me to work, they aren’t good for close up work, nothing is better
Ah well, take the day off.
I’ve got tomorrow off already
Bubblecar said:
1941. “Negro children standing in front of half-mile concrete wall, Detroit, Michigan. This wall was built in August 1941 to separate the Negro section from a white housing development going up on the other side.” Acetate negative by John Vachon.
They’d be happy with the progress the USA has made with race relations
I just downloaded a text book, published 2007, from Academia.com.
Is that site actually legal?
Cymek said:
Bubblecar said:
1941. “Negro children standing in front of half-mile concrete wall, Detroit, Michigan. This wall was built in August 1941 to separate the Negro section from a white housing development going up on the other side.” Acetate negative by John Vachon.
They’d be happy with the progress the USA has made with race relations
Now the walls are invisible.
The Rev Dodgson said:
I just downloaded a text book, published 2007, from Academia.com.Is that site actually legal?
Do the have the latest editions as well?
Witty Rejoinder said:
Cymek said:
Bubblecar said:
1941. “Negro children standing in front of half-mile concrete wall, Detroit, Michigan. This wall was built in August 1941 to separate the Negro section from a white housing development going up on the other side.” Acetate negative by John Vachon.
They’d be happy with the progress the USA has made with race relations
Now the walls are invisible.
Is it okay for a white person to use that particular variation of the N word?
Witty Rejoinder said:
Cymek said:
Bubblecar said:
1941. “Negro children standing in front of half-mile concrete wall, Detroit, Michigan. This wall was built in August 1941 to separate the Negro section from a white housing development going up on the other side.” Acetate negative by John Vachon.
They’d be happy with the progress the USA has made with race relations
Now the walls are invisible.
My first reaction was: so much for the land of the free.
Then I thought, Australia too has “gated communities”.
“Negro children standing in front of half-mile concrete wall, Detroit, Michigan. “
They must be several hundred metres tall
Witty Rejoinder said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
I just downloaded a text book, published 2007, from Academia.com.Is that site actually legal?
Do the have the latest editions as well?
Presumably not, although I didn’t actually go looking.
furious said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Cymek said:They’d be happy with the progress the USA has made with race relations
Now the walls are invisible.
Is it okay for a white person to use that particular variation of the N word?
Depends on the context I think but it is generally frowned upon.
Witty Rejoinder said:
furious said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Now the walls are invisible.
Is it okay for a white person to use that particular variation of the N word?
Depends on the context I think but it is generally frowned upon.
I think we can allow Mr. Car to quote from 1941.
Victims of white race rioters, 1921.
“Disaster Relief. Interior, American Red Cross hospital, Tulsa, Oklahoma. Nov. 1, 1921. Patients recovering from effects of race riot of June 1, 1921.”
The Rev Dodgson said:
I just downloaded a text book, published 2007, from Academia.com.Is that site actually legal?
Do you mean Academia.edu?
Witty Rejoinder said:
furious said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Now the walls are invisible.
Is it okay for a white person to use that particular variation of the N word?
Depends on the context I think but it is generally frowned upon.
The caption is from the time.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
furious said:Is it okay for a white person to use that particular variation of the N word?
Depends on the context I think but it is generally frowned upon.
I think we can allow Mr. Car to quote from 1941.
I think, with all the renaming of things at the moment to remove historical racist connotations I think it would have been more appropriate for Mr Car to edit the text…
Ian said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
I just downloaded a text book, published 2007, from Academia.com.Is that site actually legal?
Do you mean Academia.edu?
Yes, I did mean that.
Bubblecar said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
furious said:Is it okay for a white person to use that particular variation of the N word?
Depends on the context I think but it is generally frowned upon.
The caption is from the time.
I know.
furious said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Depends on the context I think but it is generally frowned upon.
I think we can allow Mr. Car to quote from 1941.
I think, with all the renaming of things at the moment to remove historical racist connotations I think it would have been more appropriate for Mr Car to edit the text…
But to present the image in context, surely the original words should remain.
The Rev Dodgson said:
furious said:
The Rev Dodgson said:I think we can allow Mr. Car to quote from 1941.
I think, with all the renaming of things at the moment to remove historical racist connotations I think it would have been more appropriate for Mr Car to edit the text…
But to present the image in context, surely the original words should remain.
The implied segregation is the context, that would have remained if you used a different word to describe the individuals…
furious said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
furious said:I think, with all the renaming of things at the moment to remove historical racist connotations I think it would have been more appropriate for Mr Car to edit the text…
But to present the image in context, surely the original words should remain.
The implied segregation is the context, that would have remained if you used a different word to describe the individuals…
Partly.
furious said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
furious said:I think, with all the renaming of things at the moment to remove historical racist connotations I think it would have been more appropriate for Mr Car to edit the text…
But to present the image in context, surely the original words should remain.
The implied segregation is the context, that would have remained if you used a different word to describe the individuals…
Shorpy is a historical photography site that includes the contemporary captions, where they survive, for historical reasons.
furious said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
furious said:I think, with all the renaming of things at the moment to remove historical racist connotations I think it would have been more appropriate for Mr Car to edit the text…
But to present the image in context, surely the original words should remain.
The implied segregation is the context, that would have remained if you used a different word to describe the individuals…
Nah, it’s bad form to alter direct quotes.
The Rev Dodgson said:
furious said:
The Rev Dodgson said:But to present the image in context, surely the original words should remain.
The implied segregation is the context, that would have remained if you used a different word to describe the individuals…
Partly.
The originally wording does show the attitude at the time
Hypocrisy…
furious said:
Hypocrisy…
Where?
dv said:
furious said:
Hypocrisy…
Where?
Everywhere…
furious said:
dv said:
furious said:
Hypocrisy…
Where?
Everywhere…
Nah.
Ian said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
I just downloaded a text book, published 2007, from Academia.com.Is that site actually legal?
Do you mean Academia.edu?
This doesn’t answer my specific question, but it does suggest the site is a bit dodgy:
“This question is asked often is because Academia.edu engages in what some seem to feel are deceptive practices to obtain paid members, also in the guise of trust as a bona fide academic institution using a .edu domain. I’m still not sure why they warranted such special treatment, but that’s another question and appreciate why some find it disconcerting.
I have seen often comments that they are also noticeably more aggressive than competing sites and using tricky baiting tactics. Repeated attempts to induce joining at a cost to see people who supposedly cited your work with the flimsiest of algorithms to ascertain whether the email recipient is actually the person cited. They also use hidden or camouflaged navigation to induce users to think content is locked behind a paywall. this allows the content to be seen in search engines because technically it’s not behind the payroll but it’s hard to realize this.
What also feels wrong in general are sites that are distributing content that was not meant to be downloaded and redistributed, especially not behind the paywall where someone else is getting compensated for your work. Another sites you can contact the author and get a copy of the paper. I don’t recall an option at academia other than joining for access or finding the way to view the document via the subtle navigation if available.”
(I don’t pay them anything BTW)
The Rev Dodgson said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
I just downloaded a text book, published 2007, from Academia.com.Is that site actually legal?
Do the have the latest editions as well?
Presumably not, although I didn’t actually go looking.
be prepared for a shit load of fucking emails from them.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Cymek said:They’d be happy with the progress the USA has made with race relations
Now the walls are invisible.
My first reaction was: so much for the land of the free.
Then I thought, Australia too has “gated communities”.
It’s not just the crude and obvious physical barriers that segregate communities. Other community design elements like public transport, school type, retail and community facilities, house size and construction type, and employment types can all powerfully influence demographics.
Arts said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Do the have the latest editions as well?
Presumably not, although I didn’t actually go looking.
be prepared for a shit load of fucking emails from them.
That’s OK, I’ve been getting those for ages. They often have interesting downloads (such as free text books).
The Rev Dodgson said:
Arts said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Presumably not, although I didn’t actually go looking.
be prepared for a shit load of fucking emails from them.
That’s OK, I’ve been getting those for ages. They often have interesting downloads (such as free text books).
every fucking day two or three times is far too much.. I am about to unsubscribe
Rule 303 said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Now the walls are invisible.
My first reaction was: so much for the land of the free.
Then I thought, Australia too has “gated communities”.
It’s not just the crude and obvious physical barriers that segregate communities. Other community design elements like public transport, school type, retail and community facilities, house size and construction type, and employment types can all powerfully influence demographics.
Aye. Food deserts for one.
I can relate to the first panel…

Arts said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Arts said:be prepared for a shit load of fucking emails from them.
That’s OK, I’ve been getting those for ages. They often have interesting downloads (such as free text books).
every fucking day two or three times is far too much.. I am about to unsubscribe
It just goes to my junk Gmail address, so I don’t have a problem with it.
Good luck unsubscribing :)
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-25/victoria-records-33-new-coronavirus-infections-testing-hotspots/12390870
You see, this is what happens when you test more! I think yesterday was one of the biggest testing days in Victoria to date.
;)
The Rev Dodgson said:
furious said:
The Rev Dodgson said:But to present the image in context, surely the original words should remain.
The implied segregation is the context, that would have remained if you used a different word to describe the individuals…
Partly.
I think this is QI:
“It started its decline in 1966 and was totally uncouth by the mid-1980s. The turning point came when Stokely Carmichael coined the phrase black power at a 1966 rally in Mississippi. Until then, Negro was how most black Americans described themselves. But in Carmichael’s speeches and in his landmark 1967 book, Black Power: The Politics of Liberation in America, he persuasively argued that the term implied black inferiority. Among black activists, Negro soon became shorthand for a member of the establishment. Prominent black publications like Ebony switched from Negro to black at the end of the decade, and the masses soon followed. According to a 1968 Newsweek poll, more than two-thirds of black Americans still preferred Negro, but black had become the majority preference by 1974. Both the Associated Press and the New York Times abandoned Negro in the 1970s, and by the mid-1980s, even the most hidebound institutions, like the U.S. Supreme Court, had largely stopped using Negro.
Had Sen. Reid chosen to defend his word choice, he could have cited some formidable authorities. Colored was the preferred term for black Americans until W.E.B. Du Bois, following the lead of Booker T. Washington, advocated for a switch to Negro in the 1920s. (Du Bois also used black in his writings, but it wasn’t his term of choice.) Despite claims that Negro was a white-coined word intended to marginalize black people, Du Bois argued that the term was “etymologically and phonetically” preferable to colored or “various hyphenated circumlocutions.” Most importantly, the new terminology — chosen by black leaders themselves-symbolized a rising tide of black intellectual, artistic, and political assertiveness. (After achieving the shift in vocabulary, Du Bois spearheaded a letter-writing campaign to capitalize his preferred term. In 1930 — nine years before Harry Reid was born — the New York Times Style Book made the change.) Black supplanted Negro when the energy of this movement waned.”
https://www.ferris.edu/HTMLS/news/jimcrow/question/2010/october.htm
I’ll address furious’s unspoken point: that it is hypocrisy to present direct quotes unaltered, while at the same time disapproving of statues adulating slavers and genocidal maniacs. A statue in a public place is not a historical note: it is a mark of respect. Removing statues of people who are unworthy of that respect isn’t an alteration of history, indeed it is casting history in its proper light.
Rule 303 said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Now the walls are invisible.
My first reaction was: so much for the land of the free.
Then I thought, Australia too has “gated communities”.
It’s not just the crude and obvious physical barriers that segregate communities. Other community design elements like public transport, school type, retail and community facilities, house size and construction type, and employment types can all powerfully influence demographics.
Suburban development and urban renewal in the US has a long dark history of entrenching racism. Add to all the other things you listed that most banks wouldn’t give mortgages to people of colour to buy into the new suburban dream. I was doing some reading on urban planning a while back and this kept popping up in US contexts.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Rule 303 said:
The Rev Dodgson said:My first reaction was: so much for the land of the free.
Then I thought, Australia too has “gated communities”.
It’s not just the crude and obvious physical barriers that segregate communities. Other community design elements like public transport, school type, retail and community facilities, house size and construction type, and employment types can all powerfully influence demographics.
Aye. Food deserts for one.
It’s widely believed a new development near New York was designed (by a bloke well known to be extremely racist) with bridges much lower than normal to prevent buses getting access to the area – Excluding the poor, black, and Hispanic.
dv said:
I’ll address furious’s unspoken point: that it is hypocrisy to present direct quotes unaltered, while at the same time disapproving of statues adulating slavers and genocidal maniacs. A statue in a public place is not a historical note: it is a mark of respect. Removing statues of people who are unworthy of that respect isn’t an alteration of history, indeed it is casting history in its proper light.
I didn’t mention statues. I mentioned renaming of things…
1940. “The stage which daily brings in mail, freight, express and passengers to Pie Town, New Mexico.” Medium format acetate negative by Russell Lee.
“Stage in front of the post office at Pie Town, New Mexico. This stage comes through daily except Sunday. It takes in cream for the Pie Town farmers to Magdalena and Socorro and then returns the empty cans.”
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
(CNN)She’s officially the fastest woman on Earth.Race car driver Jessi Combs was posthumously awarded the fastest land speed record by a female this week when Guinness World Records posted it that it counted her speed, meaning she officially broke the record.
Combs, 39, died last year in an accident on the day of the attempt in the Alvord Desert in southeast Oregon.
Combs broke the record by clocking a speed of 522.783 mph in a jet-powered car. She’s the first person to break the record in more than 40 years, Guinness said.
—-It’s pretty sad that driving a car so fast that you are likely to die is still seen as an activity to be admired and promoted.
Sorry, in late on this.
It’s part of the century+ of setting records in the many different types of motorsport. But it’s certainly not for everyone, nor would it likely interest the majority of people.
Okay the other small part of that tragedy that I played a part in – Something like ten years ago I was chatting via email with one of the engineers on that project, and I told him that I didn’t think it was a very good way of chasing the record, as “it just seems like an expensive & complicated way of killing someone”.
Gulp ….
JudgeMental said:
I can relate to the first panel…
:)
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:
The Rev Dodgson said:My first reaction was: so much for the land of the free.
Then I thought, Australia too has “gated communities”.
It’s not just the crude and obvious physical barriers that segregate communities. Other community design elements like public transport, school type, retail and community facilities, house size and construction type, and employment types can all powerfully influence demographics.
Suburban development and urban renewal in the US has a long dark history of entrenching racism. Add to all the other things you listed that most banks wouldn’t give mortgages to people of colour to buy into the new suburban dream. I was doing some reading on urban planning a while back and this kept popping up in US contexts.
It’s strange that they had a black president, some black people are or were extremely famous and influential in the media and they still have all this racist nonsense
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-25/victoria-records-33-new-coronavirus-infections-testing-hotspots/12390870You see, this is what happens when you test more! I think yesterday was one of the biggest testing days in Victoria to date.
;)
Thanks Don.
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:
The Rev Dodgson said:My first reaction was: so much for the land of the free.
Then I thought, Australia too has “gated communities”.
It’s not just the crude and obvious physical barriers that segregate communities. Other community design elements like public transport, school type, retail and community facilities, house size and construction type, and employment types can all powerfully influence demographics.
Suburban development and urban renewal in the US has a long dark history of entrenching racism. Add to all the other things you listed that most banks wouldn’t give mortgages to people of colour to buy into the new suburban dream. I was doing some reading on urban planning a while back and this kept popping up in US contexts.
It wasn’t that long ago (2015 ish) that white supremacists from all over Australia flocked to a satellite city called Bendigo, about an hour north west of Melbourne, to hold a protest against the construction of a Mosque. I shit you not.
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:It’s not just the crude and obvious physical barriers that segregate communities. Other community design elements like public transport, school type, retail and community facilities, house size and construction type, and employment types can all powerfully influence demographics.
Suburban development and urban renewal in the US has a long dark history of entrenching racism. Add to all the other things you listed that most banks wouldn’t give mortgages to people of colour to buy into the new suburban dream. I was doing some reading on urban planning a while back and this kept popping up in US contexts.
It wasn’t that long ago (2015 ish) that white supremacists from all over Australia flocked to a satellite city called Bendigo, about an hour north west of Melbourne, to hold a protest against the construction of a Mosque. I shit you not.
I remember that but what was the turnout?
Michael V said:
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-25/victoria-records-33-new-coronavirus-infections-testing-hotspots/12390870You see, this is what happens when you test more! I think yesterday was one of the biggest testing days in Victoria to date.
;)
Thanks Don.
So testing causes infections, hopefully testing doesn’t cause autisms as we are in trouble if it does
The Rev Dodgson said:
Ian said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
I just downloaded a text book, published 2007, from Academia.com.Is that site actually legal?
Do you mean Academia.edu?
Yes, I did mean that.
Ah. In that case NFI
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:It’s not just the crude and obvious physical barriers that segregate communities. Other community design elements like public transport, school type, retail and community facilities, house size and construction type, and employment types can all powerfully influence demographics.
Suburban development and urban renewal in the US has a long dark history of entrenching racism. Add to all the other things you listed that most banks wouldn’t give mortgages to people of colour to buy into the new suburban dream. I was doing some reading on urban planning a while back and this kept popping up in US contexts.
It wasn’t that long ago (2015 ish) that white supremacists from all over Australia flocked to a satellite city called Bendigo, about an hour north west of Melbourne, to hold a protest against the construction of a Mosque. I shit you not.
I’ve never seen any discussion of this, but I suspect that in many cases aboriginal people might have a very different experience buying into a “gated community” in Australia, compared with Europeans or even Asians.
Cymek said:
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:It’s not just the crude and obvious physical barriers that segregate communities. Other community design elements like public transport, school type, retail and community facilities, house size and construction type, and employment types can all powerfully influence demographics.
Suburban development and urban renewal in the US has a long dark history of entrenching racism. Add to all the other things you listed that most banks wouldn’t give mortgages to people of colour to buy into the new suburban dream. I was doing some reading on urban planning a while back and this kept popping up in US contexts.
It’s strange that they had a black president, some black people are or were extremely famous and influential in the media and they still have all this racist nonsense
The American dream never included blacks or native peoples. In many minds it probably still doesn’t.
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:It’s not just the crude and obvious physical barriers that segregate communities. Other community design elements like public transport, school type, retail and community facilities, house size and construction type, and employment types can all powerfully influence demographics.
Suburban development and urban renewal in the US has a long dark history of entrenching racism. Add to all the other things you listed that most banks wouldn’t give mortgages to people of colour to buy into the new suburban dream. I was doing some reading on urban planning a while back and this kept popping up in US contexts.
It wasn’t that long ago (2015 ish) that white supremacists from all over Australia flocked to a satellite city called Bendigo, about an hour north west of Melbourne, to hold a protest against the construction of a Mosque. I shit you not.
Possibly true, but not really relevant to the American context.
Ian said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Ian said:Do you mean Academia.edu?
Yes, I did mean that.
Ah. In that case NFI
It could be the PDF version of the actual text book and available to people that buy it and uploaded so people get it for free
The bulb socket in the new lamp. Can anyone here identify the type of bulb needed?
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:It’s not just the crude and obvious physical barriers that segregate communities. Other community design elements like public transport, school type, retail and community facilities, house size and construction type, and employment types can all powerfully influence demographics.
Suburban development and urban renewal in the US has a long dark history of entrenching racism. Add to all the other things you listed that most banks wouldn’t give mortgages to people of colour to buy into the new suburban dream. I was doing some reading on urban planning a while back and this kept popping up in US contexts.
It wasn’t that long ago (2015 ish) that white supremacists from all over Australia flocked to a satellite city called Bendigo, about an hour north west of Melbourne, to hold a protest against the construction of a Mosque. I shit you not.
and one of our dear old forum members was very vocal in this issue.
Bubblecar said:
1940. “The stage which daily brings in mail, freight, express and passengers to Pie Town, New Mexico.” Medium format acetate negative by Russell Lee.
The town looks quite similar today. 186 residents.
Cymek said:
Ian said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Yes, I did mean that.
Ah. In that case NFI
It could be the PDF version of the actual text book and available to people that buy it and uploaded so people get it for free
It is a pdf of the actual text book.
The Rev Dodgson said:
I just downloaded a text book, published 2007, from Academia.com.Is that site actually legal?
Your inbox will never be the same again.
furious said:
dv said:
I’ll address furious’s unspoken point: that it is hypocrisy to present direct quotes unaltered, while at the same time disapproving of statues adulating slavers and genocidal maniacs. A statue in a public place is not a historical note: it is a mark of respect. Removing statues of people who are unworthy of that respect isn’t an alteration of history, indeed it is casting history in its proper light.
I didn’t mention statues. I mentioned renaming of things…
(shrugs) same answer. The standard we walk past is the standard we accept: no one is perfect, even the best people have a mixed record, but prominent things shouldn’t be named after people who on balance ought to be deplored.
Bubblecar said:
The bulb socket in the new lamp. Can anyone here identify the type of bulb needed?
I didn’t think it was threaded but looking at it more closely it does seem to be.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Cymek said:
Ian said:Ah. In that case NFI
It could be the PDF version of the actual text book and available to people that buy it and uploaded so people get it for free
It is a pdf of the actual text book.
Yes. and they assail your inbox with other downloads by the hundreds. All of them related to the choice you clicked on.
furious said:
dv said:
I’ll address furious’s unspoken point: that it is hypocrisy to present direct quotes unaltered, while at the same time disapproving of statues adulating slavers and genocidal maniacs. A statue in a public place is not a historical note: it is a mark of respect. Removing statues of people who are unworthy of that respect isn’t an alteration of history, indeed it is casting history in its proper light.
I didn’t mention statues. I mentioned renaming of things…
Suppose in 80 years, the term “people of colour” has become a term of abuse.
Should people then quoting text from now change all usage of “people of colour” to whatever the accepted term is?
Bubblecar said:
The bulb socket in the new lamp. Can anyone here identify the type of bulb needed?
Not from that photo, sorry.
roughbarked said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
I just downloaded a text book, published 2007, from Academia.com.Is that site actually legal?
Your inbox will never be the same again.
We’ve already been through that :)
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
The bulb socket in the new lamp. Can anyone here identify the type of bulb needed?
I didn’t think it was threaded but looking at it more closely it does seem to be.
Central threaded circle is only about 1 cm across.
Bubblecar said:
1940. “The stage which daily brings in mail, freight, express and passengers to Pie Town, New Mexico.” Medium format acetate negative by Russell Lee.
“Fill ‘er up Clyde.”
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
The bulb socket in the new lamp. Can anyone here identify the type of bulb needed?
I didn’t think it was threaded but looking at it more closely it does seem to be.
Central threaded circle is only about 1 cm across.
This is the size of an oven light/ fridge light and yes some of them are threaded as in Edison screw rather than bayonet. They are usually less than 40W on that old scale.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
The bulb socket in the new lamp. Can anyone here identify the type of bulb needed?
I didn’t think it was threaded but looking at it more closely it does seem to be.
Central threaded circle is only about 1 cm across.
Got a photo of the bulb? That is likely to be more helpful.
dv said:
furious said:
dv said:
I’ll address furious’s unspoken point: that it is hypocrisy to present direct quotes unaltered, while at the same time disapproving of statues adulating slavers and genocidal maniacs. A statue in a public place is not a historical note: it is a mark of respect. Removing statues of people who are unworthy of that respect isn’t an alteration of history, indeed it is casting history in its proper light.
I didn’t mention statues. I mentioned renaming of things…
(shrugs) same answer. The standard we walk past is the standard we accept: no one is perfect, even the best people have a mixed record, but prominent things shouldn’t be named after people who on balance ought to be deplored.
I don’t object to renaming of food stuffs, for example, that may have racist connotations because their inherent nature remains unchanged. Same as re-titling that photo to “Black children standing in front of half-mile concrete wall, Detroit, Michigan. This wall was built in August 1941 to separate the Black section from a white housing development going up on the other side.” preserves the inherent segregation illustrated in the photo…
Another view.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:Suburban development and urban renewal in the US has a long dark history of entrenching racism. Add to all the other things you listed that most banks wouldn’t give mortgages to people of colour to buy into the new suburban dream. I was doing some reading on urban planning a while back and this kept popping up in US contexts.
It wasn’t that long ago (2015 ish) that white supremacists from all over Australia flocked to a satellite city called Bendigo, about an hour north west of Melbourne, to hold a protest against the construction of a Mosque. I shit you not.
I remember that but what was the turnout?
I think there was several protests and other actions (attendance at council meetings etc) but the biggest one I can find on-line was independently reported to be about a thousand protestors, 350 cops, and about 500 anti-racism protestors.
Spiny Norman said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:I didn’t think it was threaded but looking at it more closely it does seem to be.
Central threaded circle is only about 1 cm across.
Got a photo of the bulb? That is likely to be more helpful.
I don’t have a bulb for it.
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:I didn’t think it was threaded but looking at it more closely it does seem to be.
Central threaded circle is only about 1 cm across.
This is the size of an oven light/ fridge light and yes some of them are threaded as in Edison screw rather than bayonet. They are usually less than 40W on that old scale.
They have various bulb sizes and types of bulb. Something like this. https://www.bunnings.com.au/philips-12w-cool-day-small-edison-screw-cfl-t2-spiral-tornado-globe_p4320495
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
The bulb socket in the new lamp. Can anyone here identify the type of bulb needed?
I didn’t think it was threaded but looking at it more closely it does seem to be.
Central threaded circle is only about 1 cm across.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edison_screw#Fittings
JudgeMental said:
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:Suburban development and urban renewal in the US has a long dark history of entrenching racism. Add to all the other things you listed that most banks wouldn’t give mortgages to people of colour to buy into the new suburban dream. I was doing some reading on urban planning a while back and this kept popping up in US contexts.
It wasn’t that long ago (2015 ish) that white supremacists from all over Australia flocked to a satellite city called Bendigo, about an hour north west of Melbourne, to hold a protest against the construction of a Mosque. I shit you not.
and one of our dear old forum members was very vocal in this issue.
I don’t remember…. was it me?
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:I didn’t think it was threaded but looking at it more closely it does seem to be.
Central threaded circle is only about 1 cm across.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edison_screw#Fittings
Beat you by, alf a smidgin. the term is small eddison screw.
Bubblecar…does the website where you bought it give details of the relevent bulb under Specifications?
Bubblecar said:
The bulb socket in the new lamp. Can anyone here identify the type of bulb needed?
My guess would be E14 size, also called Small Edison Screw.
Bubblecar said:
Another view.
I think, what you have got there is a missing piece…
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:Central threaded circle is only about 1 cm across.
This is the size of an oven light/ fridge light and yes some of them are threaded as in Edison screw rather than bayonet. They are usually less than 40W on that old scale.
They have various bulb sizes and types of bulb. Something like this. https://www.bunnings.com.au/philips-12w-cool-day-small-edison-screw-cfl-t2-spiral-tornado-globe_p4320495
It’s supposed to be a 40W bulb and hopefully not something sci-fi looking, since it’s an antique-style lamp.
buffy said:
Bubblecar…does the website where you bought it give details of the relevent bulb under Specifications?
No :(
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
The bulb socket in the new lamp. Can anyone here identify the type of bulb needed?
I didn’t think it was threaded but looking at it more closely it does seem to be.
Central threaded circle is only about 1 cm across.
Small screw?
Rule 303 said:
JudgeMental said:
Rule 303 said:It wasn’t that long ago (2015 ish) that white supremacists from all over Australia flocked to a satellite city called Bendigo, about an hour north west of Melbourne, to hold a protest against the construction of a Mosque. I shit you not.
and one of our dear old forum members was very vocal in this issue.
I don’t remember…. was it me?
Barb, she was posting all sorts of bigoted crap.
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:I didn’t think it was threaded but looking at it more closely it does seem to be.
Central threaded circle is only about 1 cm across.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edison_screw#Fittings
Ta. Looks like I need an E14.
Seems it turned out okay
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/jul/30/a-blessing-in-disguise-bendigo-at-peace-with-its-mosque-after-years-of-far-right-protest
A high court challenge to stop the mosque failed, and the extremists Neil Erikson and Blair Cottrell were convicted for racial vilification in 2017 over a mock beheading video outside the council chambers.
But local Muslims say in some ways the controversy has been a blessing in disguise.
“The whole experience has been really good for us,” says the president of the Bendigo Islamic Association, Sameer Syed. “We’ve made so many friends.”
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Bubblecar…does the website where you bought it give details of the relevent bulb under Specifications?
No :(
I’d suggest a quick email to ask them might be not a complete waste of time.
furious said:
Bubblecar said:
Another view.
I think, what you have got there is a missing piece…
Yes it looks like something screws onto it for bulb to sit it
Is the lamp small enough to take to the shops?
JudgeMental said:
Rule 303 said:
JudgeMental said:and one of our dear old forum members was very vocal in this issue.
I don’t remember…. was it me?
Barb, she was posting all sorts of bigoted crap.
Ugh, Jesus….
She’s still doing it, on Facebook.
Bubblecar said:
Another view.
Decidedly odd-looking.
dv said:
Is the lamp small enough to take to the shops?
Look, they already think he is eccentric as it is…
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:Central threaded circle is only about 1 cm across.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edison_screw#Fittings
Ta. Looks like I need an E14.
…or maybe E10 :/
Why they couldn’t just give it an ordinary standard size fitting like my other lamps, I don’t know.
Bubblecar said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:This is the size of an oven light/ fridge light and yes some of them are threaded as in Edison screw rather than bayonet. They are usually less than 40W on that old scale.
They have various bulb sizes and types of bulb. Something like this. https://www.bunnings.com.au/philips-12w-cool-day-small-edison-screw-cfl-t2-spiral-tornado-globe_p4320495
It’s supposed to be a 40W bulb and hopefully not something sci-fi looking, since it’s an antique-style lamp.
Unfortunately, Bunnings refularly remove such stock and concentrate on new stuff.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
Michael V said:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edison_screw#Fittings
Ta. Looks like I need an E14.
…or maybe E10 :/
Why they couldn’t just give it an ordinary standard size fitting like my other lamps, I don’t know.
You wanted antique look.
What you need is a lighting specialist shop.
Mr buffy has gone to Hamilton. He’s decided we don’t need three cars. He is not allowed to dispose of my manual Suzuki. So he is going to sell off the Mazda CX5. And keep the ute. He chatted to a dealer yesterday and he’s going to look at it.
Mystery shop done. It was pretty quick, I assume due to COVID restrictions. I wrote all that in the survey.
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:
Rule 303 said:It’s not just the crude and obvious physical barriers that segregate communities. Other community design elements like public transport, school type, retail and community facilities, house size and construction type, and employment types can all powerfully influence demographics.
Suburban development and urban renewal in the US has a long dark history of entrenching racism. Add to all the other things you listed that most banks wouldn’t give mortgages to people of colour to buy into the new suburban dream. I was doing some reading on urban planning a while back and this kept popping up in US contexts.
It wasn’t that long ago (2015 ish) that white supremacists from all over Australia flocked to a satellite city called Bendigo, about an hour north west of Melbourne, to hold a protest against the construction of a Mosque. I shit you not.
It’s still happening in my own community where the locals have banded together to oppose a development application for a mosque in a rural street backing bushland. Never before have they been so united, despite other developments being bigger, uglier, more damaging and creating more traffic. It was rejected by Council as well as the NSW planning panel, but the Muslim community are just warming up.
A few weeks ago we were invited to dinner by friends who strongly oppose this development and it came up in conversation. I was not the one to bring it up. I’m sure it was bad manners on my part, as guest, but I stated that I hoped the development was successful as it was no worse than any other. I blurted out that anyone who has an issue with it is a hypocrite, and that I am embarrassed to be a part of this community who have behaved the way that they have, feigning concern about ancillary issues for fear of being labelled racists if their true motives are exposed. I also added that other local groups who have tried to gather community support for these same ancillary issues, for example to try to prevent much larger areas of bushland from being cleared, have never found that level of support. It was quite the lecture actually, and I’m not sorry!
dv said:
Seems it turned out okayhttps://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/jul/30/a-blessing-in-disguise-bendigo-at-peace-with-its-mosque-after-years-of-far-right-protest
A high court challenge to stop the mosque failed, and the extremists Neil Erikson and Blair Cottrell were convicted for racial vilification in 2017 over a mock beheading video outside the council chambers.
But local Muslims say in some ways the controversy has been a blessing in disguise.
“The whole experience has been really good for us,” says the president of the Bendigo Islamic Association, Sameer Syed. “We’ve made so many friends.”
Similar happened here.
Someone tried (unsuccessfuly) to burn down the timber-and-brick building that housed the local mosque.
Really raised the profile of muslims in the community, gave them a lot of media time to explain their part in the society, etc.
Also gave them the impetus to build new and better mosque.
dv said:
Seems it turned out okayhttps://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/jul/30/a-blessing-in-disguise-bendigo-at-peace-with-its-mosque-after-years-of-far-right-protest
A high court challenge to stop the mosque failed, and the extremists Neil Erikson and Blair Cottrell were convicted for racial vilification in 2017 over a mock beheading video outside the council chambers.
But local Muslims say in some ways the controversy has been a blessing in disguise.
“The whole experience has been really good for us,” says the president of the Bendigo Islamic Association, Sameer Syed. “We’ve made so many friends.”
Good.
I don’t recall any fuss being made about the Great Stupa of Universal Compassion which is close to completion. Perhaps fuckwits don’t know about Buddhists?
I dropped in for a look when we were in Benders a few weeks ago – Interesting joint.
Rule 303 said:
JudgeMental said:
Rule 303 said:I don’t remember…. was it me?
Barb, she was posting all sorts of bigoted crap.
Ugh, Jesus….
She’s still doing it, on Facebook.
yep, but her shite is easily countered cos she’s brainless and doesn’t check her stories that she posts..
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Bubblecar…does the website where you bought it give details of the relevent bulb under Specifications?
No :(
I’d suggest a quick email to ask them might be not a complete waste of time.
I got it from Temple & Webster but I’ve just looked up the same lamp at another supplier, and they do specify the bulb needed – E14 :)
Speedy said:
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:Suburban development and urban renewal in the US has a long dark history of entrenching racism. Add to all the other things you listed that most banks wouldn’t give mortgages to people of colour to buy into the new suburban dream. I was doing some reading on urban planning a while back and this kept popping up in US contexts.
It wasn’t that long ago (2015 ish) that white supremacists from all over Australia flocked to a satellite city called Bendigo, about an hour north west of Melbourne, to hold a protest against the construction of a Mosque. I shit you not.
It’s still happening in my own community where the locals have banded together to oppose a development application for a mosque in a rural street backing bushland. Never before have they been so united, despite other developments being bigger, uglier, more damaging and creating more traffic. It was rejected by Council as well as the NSW planning panel, but the Muslim community are just warming up.
A few weeks ago we were invited to dinner by friends who strongly oppose this development and it came up in conversation. I was not the one to bring it up. I’m sure it was bad manners on my part, as guest, but I stated that I hoped the development was successful as it was no worse than any other. I blurted out that anyone who has an issue with it is a hypocrite, and that I am embarrassed to be a part of this community who have behaved the way that they have, feigning concern about ancillary issues for fear of being labelled racists if their true motives are exposed. I also added that other local groups who have tried to gather community support for these same ancillary issues, for example to try to prevent much larger areas of bushland from being cleared, have never found that level of support. It was quite the lecture actually, and I’m not sorry!
Excellent. Well done.
:-)
Divine Angel said:
Mystery shop done. It was pretty quick, I assume due to COVID restrictions. I wrote all that in the survey.
Did you have trouble finding an E10 light bulb?
Speedy said:
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:Suburban development and urban renewal in the US has a long dark history of entrenching racism. Add to all the other things you listed that most banks wouldn’t give mortgages to people of colour to buy into the new suburban dream. I was doing some reading on urban planning a while back and this kept popping up in US contexts.
It wasn’t that long ago (2015 ish) that white supremacists from all over Australia flocked to a satellite city called Bendigo, about an hour north west of Melbourne, to hold a protest against the construction of a Mosque. I shit you not.
It’s still happening in my own community where the locals have banded together to oppose a development application for a mosque in a rural street backing bushland. Never before have they been so united, despite other developments being bigger, uglier, more damaging and creating more traffic. It was rejected by Council as well as the NSW planning panel, but the Muslim community are just warming up.
A few weeks ago we were invited to dinner by friends who strongly oppose this development and it came up in conversation. I was not the one to bring it up. I’m sure it was bad manners on my part, as guest, but I stated that I hoped the development was successful as it was no worse than any other. I blurted out that anyone who has an issue with it is a hypocrite, and that I am embarrassed to be a part of this community who have behaved the way that they have, feigning concern about ancillary issues for fear of being labelled racists if their true motives are exposed. I also added that other local groups who have tried to gather community support for these same ancillary issues, for example to try to prevent much larger areas of bushland from being cleared, have never found that level of support. It was quite the lecture actually, and I’m not sorry!
I have no probs with bad manners.
:-)
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Bubblecar said:No :(
I’d suggest a quick email to ask them might be not a complete waste of time.
I got it from Temple & Webster but I’ve just looked up the same lamp at another supplier, and they do specify the bulb needed – E14 :)
look like this with an eddison screw rather than bayonet?
Bubblecar said:
Spiny Norman said:
Bubblecar said:Central threaded circle is only about 1 cm across.
Got a photo of the bulb? That is likely to be more helpful.
I don’t have a bulb for it.
Apologies, I thought you might have a blown bulb for it.
JudgeMental said:
Speedy said:
Rule 303 said:It wasn’t that long ago (2015 ish) that white supremacists from all over Australia flocked to a satellite city called Bendigo, about an hour north west of Melbourne, to hold a protest against the construction of a Mosque. I shit you not.
It’s still happening in my own community where the locals have banded together to oppose a development application for a mosque in a rural street backing bushland. Never before have they been so united, despite other developments being bigger, uglier, more damaging and creating more traffic. It was rejected by Council as well as the NSW planning panel, but the Muslim community are just warming up.
A few weeks ago we were invited to dinner by friends who strongly oppose this development and it came up in conversation. I was not the one to bring it up. I’m sure it was bad manners on my part, as guest, but I stated that I hoped the development was successful as it was no worse than any other. I blurted out that anyone who has an issue with it is a hypocrite, and that I am embarrassed to be a part of this community who have behaved the way that they have, feigning concern about ancillary issues for fear of being labelled racists if their true motives are exposed. I also added that other local groups who have tried to gather community support for these same ancillary issues, for example to try to prevent much larger areas of bushland from being cleared, have never found that level of support. It was quite the lecture actually, and I’m not sorry!
I have no probs with bad manners.
:-)
It’s not bad manners. Whoever brought it up wanted to talk about it.
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:I’d suggest a quick email to ask them might be not a complete waste of time.
I got it from Temple & Webster but I’ve just looked up the same lamp at another supplier, and they do specify the bulb needed – E14 :)
look like this with an eddison screw rather than bayonet?
E14 base can have various bulb shapes
I’ll have a look in our IGA this afternoon and if no go, there are plenty available on eBay.
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
roughbarked said:They have various bulb sizes and types of bulb. Something like this. https://www.bunnings.com.au/philips-12w-cool-day-small-edison-screw-cfl-t2-spiral-tornado-globe_p4320495
It’s supposed to be a 40W bulb and hopefully not something sci-fi looking, since it’s an antique-style lamp.
Unfortunately, Bunnings refularly remove such stock and concentrate on new stuff.
As part of Wesfarmers, they appear to follow the Coles strategy.
Which is, when there’s a popular item that people seem to buy all the time, cease stocking it so that they’re compelled to buy the rubbish that wasn’t shifting while the good item was available.
Rule 303 said:
dv said:
Seems it turned out okayhttps://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/jul/30/a-blessing-in-disguise-bendigo-at-peace-with-its-mosque-after-years-of-far-right-protest
A high court challenge to stop the mosque failed, and the extremists Neil Erikson and Blair Cottrell were convicted for racial vilification in 2017 over a mock beheading video outside the council chambers.
But local Muslims say in some ways the controversy has been a blessing in disguise.
“The whole experience has been really good for us,” says the president of the Bendigo Islamic Association, Sameer Syed. “We’ve made so many friends.”Good.
I don’t recall any fuss being made about the Great Stupa of Universal Compassion which is close to completion. Perhaps fuckwits don’t know about Buddhists?
I dropped in for a look when we were in Benders a few weeks ago – Interesting joint.
What about opposing these super churches were the thousands of happy clappers could produce a sonic boom that destroys the local area
Bubblecar said:
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:I got it from Temple & Webster but I’ve just looked up the same lamp at another supplier, and they do specify the bulb needed – E14 :)
look like this with an eddison screw rather than bayonet?
E14 base can have various bulb shapes
I’ll have a look in our IGA this afternoon and if no go, there are plenty available on eBay.
Good luck. I bought a lamp which needed one of these a few years ago and had trouble finding the right size light bulb to go with it. I ended up going to a shop a couple of suburbs away to find it.
buffy said:
JudgeMental said:
Speedy said:It’s still happening in my own community where the locals have banded together to oppose a development application for a mosque in a rural street backing bushland. Never before have they been so united, despite other developments being bigger, uglier, more damaging and creating more traffic. It was rejected by Council as well as the NSW planning panel, but the Muslim community are just warming up.
A few weeks ago we were invited to dinner by friends who strongly oppose this development and it came up in conversation. I was not the one to bring it up. I’m sure it was bad manners on my part, as guest, but I stated that I hoped the development was successful as it was no worse than any other. I blurted out that anyone who has an issue with it is a hypocrite, and that I am embarrassed to be a part of this community who have behaved the way that they have, feigning concern about ancillary issues for fear of being labelled racists if their true motives are exposed. I also added that other local groups who have tried to gather community support for these same ancillary issues, for example to try to prevent much larger areas of bushland from being cleared, have never found that level of support. It was quite the lecture actually, and I’m not sorry!
I have no probs with bad manners.
:-)
It’s not bad manners. Whoever brought it up wanted to talk about it.
Yes, but I’m sure this was not the conversation she was hoping for, as almost everyone she speaks with would reaffirm her views. She took it well though, asking why the muslim community is persisting despite such a community backlash. Would they really want to be in an area where they are not welcome?
Anyhow, she is still speaking with me, it seems, as she phoned this morning to warn me that Channel 9 were outside of our boys’ school interviewing people about the asbestos that was sealed a few weeks ago. News is not new.
Cymek said:
Rule 303 said:
dv said:
Seems it turned out okayhttps://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/jul/30/a-blessing-in-disguise-bendigo-at-peace-with-its-mosque-after-years-of-far-right-protest
A high court challenge to stop the mosque failed, and the extremists Neil Erikson and Blair Cottrell were convicted for racial vilification in 2017 over a mock beheading video outside the council chambers.
But local Muslims say in some ways the controversy has been a blessing in disguise.
“The whole experience has been really good for us,” says the president of the Bendigo Islamic Association, Sameer Syed. “We’ve made so many friends.”Good.
I don’t recall any fuss being made about the Great Stupa of Universal Compassion which is close to completion. Perhaps fuckwits don’t know about Buddhists?
I dropped in for a look when we were in Benders a few weeks ago – Interesting joint.
What about opposing these super churches were the thousands of happy clappers could produce a sonic boom that destroys the local area
Wha ?!
Why is this the first I’m hearing about this?
Holy snappin’ clappin’ boom, Batman!
Whoops… guy is trying to reverse his Ute with boat trailer (and boat) into the driveway opposite me. Just reversed into the signpost.
Speedy said:
buffy said:
JudgeMental said:I have no probs with bad manners.
:-)
It’s not bad manners. Whoever brought it up wanted to talk about it.
Yes, but I’m sure this was not the conversation she was hoping for, as almost everyone she speaks with would reaffirm her views. She took it well though, asking why the muslim community is persisting despite such a community backlash. Would they really want to be in an area where they are not welcome?
Anyhow, she is still speaking with me, it seems, as she phoned this morning to warn me that Channel 9 were outside of our boys’ school interviewing people about the asbestos that was sealed a few weeks ago. News is not new.
It would be an interesting study to see if mosques had any effect on the local area besides the actual existence of the building.
I imagine they keep to themselves and don’t bother others
Divine Angel said:
Whoops… guy is trying to reverse his Ute with boat trailer (and boat) into the driveway opposite me. Just reversed into the signpost.
Blokes backing boat trailers is the best!
The locals here sometimes just go hang out at the boat ramps when they’re busy with tourists for the hilarity.
:-)
Divine Angel said:
Whoops… guy is trying to reverse his Ute with boat trailer (and boat) into the driveway opposite me. Just reversed into the signpost.
I hope the signpost is undamaged.
Speedy said:
Rule 303 said:
party_pants said:Suburban development and urban renewal in the US has a long dark history of entrenching racism. Add to all the other things you listed that most banks wouldn’t give mortgages to people of colour to buy into the new suburban dream. I was doing some reading on urban planning a while back and this kept popping up in US contexts.
It wasn’t that long ago (2015 ish) that white supremacists from all over Australia flocked to a satellite city called Bendigo, about an hour north west of Melbourne, to hold a protest against the construction of a Mosque. I shit you not.
It’s still happening in my own community where the locals have banded together to oppose a development application for a mosque in a rural street backing bushland. Never before have they been so united, despite other developments being bigger, uglier, more damaging and creating more traffic. It was rejected by Council as well as the NSW planning panel, but the Muslim community are just warming up.
A few weeks ago we were invited to dinner by friends who strongly oppose this development and it came up in conversation. I was not the one to bring it up. I’m sure it was bad manners on my part, as guest, but I stated that I hoped the development was successful as it was no worse than any other. I blurted out that anyone who has an issue with it is a hypocrite, and that I am embarrassed to be a part of this community who have behaved the way that they have, feigning concern about ancillary issues for fear of being labelled racists if their true motives are exposed. I also added that other local groups who have tried to gather community support for these same ancillary issues, for example to try to prevent much larger areas of bushland from being cleared, have never found that level of support. It was quite the lecture actually, and I’m not sorry!
Good on you!
:)
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
Whoops… guy is trying to reverse his Ute with boat trailer (and boat) into the driveway opposite me. Just reversed into the signpost.
Blokes backing boat trailers is the best!
The locals here sometimes just go hang out at the boat ramps when they’re busy with tourists for the hilarity.
:-)
Boat ramp YouTube compilations are addictive. Do not, I repeat, do not start watching them.
I wonder how long the troops will have to be in Victoria to enforce the curfew and guard the Premiers palace?
Speedy said:
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
Whoops… guy is trying to reverse his Ute with boat trailer (and boat) into the driveway opposite me. Just reversed into the signpost.
Blokes backing boat trailers is the best!
The locals here sometimes just go hang out at the boat ramps when they’re busy with tourists for the hilarity.
:-)
Boat ramp YouTube compilations are addictive. Do not, I repeat, do not start watching them.
Nooooo!
Why did you tell me about them?!
Aaaaggghhhh!
Speedy said:
buffy said:
JudgeMental said:I have no probs with bad manners.
:-)
It’s not bad manners. Whoever brought it up wanted to talk about it.
Yes, but I’m sure this was not the conversation she was hoping for, as almost everyone she speaks with would reaffirm her views. She took it well though, asking why the muslim community is persisting despite such a community backlash. Would they really want to be in an area where they are not welcome?
Anyhow, she is still speaking with me, it seems, as she phoned this morning to warn me that Channel 9 were outside of our boys’ school interviewing people about the asbestos that was sealed a few weeks ago. News is not new.
If it was not the conversation she was hoping for, it was definitely one she needed to have.
Peak Warming Man said:
I wonder how long the troops will have to be in Victoria to enforce the curfew and guard the Premiers palace?
at least fortnight.
I pity the poor bastards, no pubs to go to after a long shift.
party_pants said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I wonder how long the troops will have to be in Victoria to enforce the curfew and guard the Premiers palace?
at least fortnight.
I pity the poor bastards, no pubs to go to after a long shift.
And then another fortnight in the Eastern suburbs to see if there is the same proportion of “silent” cases there.
buffy said:
party_pants said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I wonder how long the troops will have to be in Victoria to enforce the curfew and guard the Premiers palace?
at least fortnight.
I pity the poor bastards, no pubs to go to after a long shift.
And then another fortnight in the Eastern suburbs to see if there is the same proportion of “silent” cases there.
Poor bastards x 2.
There’s bound to be silent cases there too I’d reckon.
party_pants said:
buffy said:
party_pants said:at least fortnight.
I pity the poor bastards, no pubs to go to after a long shift.
And then another fortnight in the Eastern suburbs to see if there is the same proportion of “silent” cases there.
Poor bastards x 2.
There’s bound to be silent cases there too I’d reckon.
I was making it up…but it would be the proper scientific way to do it.
:)
party_pants said:
buffy said:
party_pants said:at least fortnight.
I pity the poor bastards, no pubs to go to after a long shift.
And then another fortnight in the Eastern suburbs to see if there is the same proportion of “silent” cases there.
Poor bastards x 2.
There’s bound to be silent cases there too I’d reckon.
Didn’t China test all of Wuhan in that kind of time period? And we can only manage half of a handful of suburbs in Melbourne?
party_pants said:
buffy said:
party_pants said:at least fortnight.
I pity the poor bastards, no pubs to go to after a long shift.
And then another fortnight in the Eastern suburbs to see if there is the same proportion of “silent” cases there.
Poor bastards x 2.
There’s bound to be silent cases there too I’d reckon.
I was playing with the numbers a couple of weeks ago, based on the first few days of test results after we started testing people in supermarket car parks. The maths was simple and the algorithm was full of assumptions, but I projected 1250 cases already in the community at that stage.
furious said:
party_pants said:
buffy said:And then another fortnight in the Eastern suburbs to see if there is the same proportion of “silent” cases there.
Poor bastards x 2.
There’s bound to be silent cases there too I’d reckon.
Didn’t China test all of Wuhan in that kind of time period? And we can only manage half of a handful of suburbs in Melbourne?
Dunno mate, I’m only holding the pig…
Peak Warming Man said:
I wonder how long the troops will have to be in Victoria to enforce the curfew and guard the Premiers palace?
Until the peasantry learn their place.
furious said:
Didn’t China test all of Wuhan in that kind of time period?
That’s what the government of our good friend and greatest trading partner tells us.
It would be churlish of us to harbour any doubt about it.
party_pants said:
furious said:
party_pants said:Poor bastards x 2.
There’s bound to be silent cases there too I’d reckon.
Didn’t China test all of Wuhan in that kind of time period? And we can only manage half of a handful of suburbs in Melbourne?
Dunno mate, I’m only holding the pig…
This is an idiom that I am not familiar with…
Going to make some toast and honey for lunch. I think Himself is rather warm and comfy on his sheepskin in front of the woodheater…
furious said:
party_pants said:
furious said:Didn’t China test all of Wuhan in that kind of time period? And we can only manage half of a handful of suburbs in Melbourne?
Dunno mate, I’m only holding the pig…
This is an idiom that I am not familiar with…
dates back to David Cameron days. an anecdote said he put a certain piece of his anatomy into a pigs mouth. he reckons he was “…only holding the pig”. the pig was dead btw.
JudgeMental said:
furious said:
party_pants said:Dunno mate, I’m only holding the pig…
This is an idiom that I am not familiar with…
dates back to David Cameron days. an anecdote said he put a certain piece of his anatomy into a pigs mouth. he reckons he was “…only holding the pig”. the pig was dead btw.
Aaah, thanks for that. I recall hearing about the pig…
furious said:
party_pants said:
furious said:Didn’t China test all of Wuhan in that kind of time period? And we can only manage half of a handful of suburbs in Melbourne?
Dunno mate, I’m only holding the pig…
This is an idiom that I am not familiar with…
.. I’m not the one fucking it.
i.e. I am not the principle participant in this matter, you should not direct your criticisms at me.
party_pants said:
furious said:
party_pants said:Dunno mate, I’m only holding the pig…
This is an idiom that I am not familiar with…
.. I’m not the one fucking it.
i.e. I am not the principle participant in this matter, you should not direct your criticisms at me.
Sorry, didn’t mean to sound like I was criticising you…
furious said:
party_pants said:
furious said:This is an idiom that I am not familiar with…
.. I’m not the one fucking it.
i.e. I am not the principle participant in this matter, you should not direct your criticisms at me.
Sorry, didn’t mean to sound like I was criticising you…
nah, that was just part of the explanation. not criticising you.
We’re not here to fuck spiderpigs
Back, with an E14 40W that fits perfectly and casts just the right amount of reading light :)
Bubblecar said:
Back, with an E14 40W that fits perfectly and casts just the right amount of reading light :)
AWTEW
Bubblecar said:
Back, with an E14 40W that fits perfectly and casts just the right amount of reading light :)
From whence did you obtain the item?
Bubblecar said:
Back, with an E14 40W that fits perfectly and casts just the right amount of reading light :)
Do you know watts what, is it old watts, new watts or what?
Divine Angel said:
Bubblecar said:
Back, with an E14 40W that fits perfectly and casts just the right amount of reading light :)
From whence did you obtain the item?
The IGA.
dv said:
We’re not here to fuck spiderpigs
I wish there were circumstances in which I could use that phrase on a daily basis.
Divine Angel said:
dv said:
We’re not here to fuck spiderpigs
I wish there were circumstances in which I could use that phrase on a daily basis.
You should have used it at your mystery shop earlier…
Divine Angel said:
dv said:
We’re not here to fuck spiderpigs
I wish there were circumstances in which I could use that phrase on a daily basis.
It’s normally we’re not here to fuck spiders. I don’t know where dv gets off adding pigs into the mix. It’s disgusting.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Back, with an E14 40W that fits perfectly and casts just the right amount of reading light :)
Do you know watts what, is it old watts, new watts or what?
It’s 28W halogen which equates to 40W old style.
But there are plenty of these vintage style E14 filament types available. I’ll order some soon.

sibeen said:
Divine Angel said:
dv said:
We’re not here to fuck spiderpigs
I wish there were circumstances in which I could use that phrase on a daily basis.
It’s normally we’re not here to fuck spiders. I don’t know where dv gets off adding pigs into the mix. It’s disgusting.
spiderpig was from The Simpsons Movie
sibeen said:
Divine Angel said:
dv said:
We’re not here to fuck spiderpigs
I wish there were circumstances in which I could use that phrase on a daily basis.
It’s normally we’re not here to fuck spiders. I don’t know where dv gets off adding pigs into the mix. It’s disgusting.
Well you’re the ones who brought up that other expression about holding the pig. I’m just doing a mashup, and also introducing a Simpsons ref.
Cymek said:
sibeen said:
Divine Angel said:I wish there were circumstances in which I could use that phrase on a daily basis.
It’s normally we’re not here to fuck spiders. I don’t know where dv gets off adding pigs into the mix. It’s disgusting.
spiderpig was from The Simpsons Movie
Based off spider-ham?
Lets speak of plugs, electrical plugs.
I’m guessing EU plugs aren’t going to work in Queensland and it looks like there’s is only the EU option.
Peak Warming Man said:
Lets speak of plugs, electrical plugs.
I’m guessing EU plugs aren’t going to work in Queensland and it looks like there’s is only the EU option.
![]()
What about buying a plug adapter
Bubblecar said:
Back, with an E14 40W that fits perfectly and casts just the right amount of reading light :)
Saints be praised!
Peak Warming Man said:
Lets speak of plugs, electrical plugs.
I’m guessing EU plugs aren’t going to work in Queensland and it looks like there’s is only the EU option.
![]()
Well once upon a time, when people used to travel to distant parts of the globe, you used to be able to get something known as an “adaptor”, but goodness knows what people do these days.
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
Back, with an E14 40W that fits perfectly and casts just the right amount of reading light :)
Saints be praised!
I didn’t think you protestants did that sort of thing.
Peak Warming Man said:
Lets speak of plugs, electrical plugs.
I’m guessing EU plugs aren’t going to work in Queensland and it looks like there’s is only the EU option.
![]()
If it is in the 230-250V range you should be able to use it with an AU adaptor.
Peak Warming Man said:
Lets speak of plugs, electrical plugs.
I’m guessing EU plugs aren’t going to work in Queensland and it looks like there’s is only the EU option.
![]()
just cut it off and put an aussie one on. or just get a wallwart of similar specs here and use that.
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:
Back, with an E14 40W that fits perfectly and casts just the right amount of reading light :)
Saints be praised!
I didn’t think you protestants did that sort of thing.
I no longer identify as a protestant. Haven’t done so for all my adult life.
Bubblecar said:
Back, with an E14 40W that fits perfectly and casts just the right amount of reading light :)
Well done you!
:)
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:Saints be praised!
I didn’t think you protestants did that sort of thing.
I no longer identify as a protestant. Haven’t done so for all my adult life.
Pfft, you’re a protestant atheist, just like I’m a catholic atheist.
spits
Spider pig, spider pig, does whatever a spider pig does.
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:I didn’t think you protestants did that sort of thing.
I no longer identify as a protestant. Haven’t done so for all my adult life.
Pfft, you’re a protestant atheist, just like I’m a catholic atheist.
spits
i’m an atheist atheist.
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:I didn’t think you protestants did that sort of thing.
I no longer identify as a protestant. Haven’t done so for all my adult life.
Pfft, you’re a protestant atheist, just like I’m a catholic atheist.
spits
So even atheism isn’t free from sectarian rivalry.
JudgeMental said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:I no longer identify as a protestant. Haven’t done so for all my adult life.
Pfft, you’re a protestant atheist, just like I’m a catholic atheist.
spits
i’m an atheist atheist.
Only a church of englander atheist could get away with that shit.
Tau’s been gone a long time.
I assume he’s visiting his sister again or suchlike.
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:I no longer identify as a protestant. Haven’t done so for all my adult life.
Pfft, you’re a protestant atheist, just like I’m a catholic atheist.
spits
So even atheism isn’t free from sectarian rivalry.
Mate, there’s sections of the bible that I don’t believe in that you haven’t even heard of.
:)
party_pants said:
sibeen said:
party_pants said:Saints be praised!
I didn’t think you protestants did that sort of thing.
I no longer identify as a protestant. Haven’t done so for all my adult life.
I no longer identify as a hindu. Haven’t done so for all of this life.
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:Pfft, you’re a protestant atheist, just like I’m a catholic atheist.
spits
So even atheism isn’t free from sectarian rivalry.
Mate, there’s sections of the bible that I don’t believe in that you haven’t even heard of.
:)
lol :)
true dat
Anyhoo, I only popped in to see if Arts was here. I’m watching that Epstein thing on Netflix and it is all sorts of horrifying.
Speedy said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:I didn’t think you protestants did that sort of thing.
I no longer identify as a protestant. Haven’t done so for all my adult life.
I no longer identify as a hindu. Haven’t done so for all of this life.
Golf clap.
Speedy said:
party_pants said:
sibeen said:I didn’t think you protestants did that sort of thing.
I no longer identify as a protestant. Haven’t done so for all my adult life.
I no longer identify as a hindu. Haven’t done so for all of this life.
:)
sibeen said:
JudgeMental said:
sibeen said:Pfft, you’re a protestant atheist, just like I’m a catholic atheist.
spits
i’m an atheist atheist.
Only a church of englander atheist could get away with that shit.
ahhhhhh it’s hereditary
Cymek said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Lets speak of plugs, electrical plugs.
I’m guessing EU plugs aren’t going to work in Queensland and it looks like there’s is only the EU option.
![]()
What about buying a plug adapter
This.
dv said:
Cymek said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Lets speak of plugs, electrical plugs.
I’m guessing EU plugs aren’t going to work in Queensland and it looks like there’s is only the EU option.
![]()
What about buying a plug adapter
This.
Can probably get it from the same website and shipped together
buffy said:
Going to make some toast and honey for lunch. I think Himself is rather warm and comfy on his sheepskin in front of the woodheater…
:)
Skipped lunch this end as I’m still full up from breakfast.
For dinner, an eye fillet steak fillet steak is soaking in stout and spices. Will be served with mushroom gravy, roast spuds and broccoli.
eye fillet steak fillet steak = eye fillet steak
Bubblecar said:
eye fillet steak fillet steak = eye fillet steak
Aye..
furious said:
Bubblecar said:
eye fillet steak fillet steak = eye fillet steak
Aye..
a can opener can open a can
Can it?
I’d just like to say…that purple Vax vacuum cleaner is mighty impressive now I’ve unglugged the brushes and they work! There was Quite a Lot of dust in this room.
English is funny sometimes in how it uses words for something that are already taken.
sibeen said:
Can it?
Can it…
furious said:
sibeen said:
Can it?
Can it…
No.
sibeen said:
furious said:
sibeen said:
Can it?
Can it…
No.
canny
dv said:
sibeen said:
furious said:Can it…
No.
canny
Enough with the cant.
party_pants said:
English is funny sometimes in how it uses words for something that are already taken.
It’s kneads to end. We must have a registrar who cheques any knew words before they are aloud. I mite just start an anti-homonym petition to peak sum interest and take it from their.
Speedy said:
party_pants said:
English is funny sometimes in how it uses words for something that are already taken.
It’s kneads to end. We must have a registrar who cheques any knew words before they are aloud. I mite just start an anti-homonym petition to peak sum interest and take it from their.
Eye halve a spelling chequer
It came with my pea sea
It plainly marques four my revue
Miss steaks eye kin knot sea.
Eye strike a quay and type a word
And weight four it two say
Weather eye am wrong oar write
It shows me strait a weigh.
As soon as a mist ache is maid
It nose bee fore two long
And eye can put the error rite
It’s rare lea ever wrong.
Eye have run this poem threw it
I am shore your pleased two no
It’s letter perfect awl the weigh
My chequer tolled me sew.
Woodie said:
Speedy said:
party_pants said:
English is funny sometimes in how it uses words for something that are already taken.
It’s kneads to end. We must have a registrar who cheques any knew words before they are aloud. I mite just start an anti-homonym petition to peak sum interest and take it from their.
Eye halve a spelling chequer
It came with my pea sea
It plainly marques four my revue
Miss steaks eye kin knot sea.Eye strike a quay and type a word
And weight four it two say
Weather eye am wrong oar write
It shows me strait a weigh.As soon as a mist ache is maid
It nose bee fore two long
And eye can put the error rite
It’s rare lea ever wrong.Eye have run this poem threw it
I am shore your pleased two no
It’s letter perfect awl the weigh
My chequer tolled me sew.
:) lol
Speedy said:
party_pants said:
English is funny sometimes in how it uses words for something that are already taken.
It’s kneads to end. We must have a registrar who cheques any knew words before they are aloud. I mite just start an anti-homonym petition to peak sum interest and take it from their.
applause
Woodie said:
Speedy said:
party_pants said:
English is funny sometimes in how it uses words for something that are already taken.
It’s kneads to end. We must have a registrar who cheques any knew words before they are aloud. I mite just start an anti-homonym petition to peak sum interest and take it from their.
Eye halve a spelling chequer
It came with my pea sea
It plainly marques four my revue
Miss steaks eye kin knot sea.Eye strike a quay and type a word
And weight four it two say
Weather eye am wrong oar write
It shows me strait a weigh.As soon as a mist ache is maid
It nose bee fore two long
And eye can put the error rite
It’s rare lea ever wrong.Eye have run this poem threw it
I am shore your pleased two no
It’s letter perfect awl the weigh
My chequer tolled me sew.
chuckle, good one
: Cam Blake Photography
: @mattdavis_photography
: Nick Monk Photography
more Disappearing tarn.
Speedy said:
party_pants said:
English is funny sometimes in how it uses words for something that are already taken.
It’s kneads to end. We must have a registrar who cheques any knew words before they are aloud. I mite just start an anti-homonym petition to peak sum interest and take it from their.
Dad’s girlfriend is French and they talk endlessly about how there aren’t any homonyms in French, and the differences in collective terms.
Woodie said:
Speedy said:
party_pants said:
English is funny sometimes in how it uses words for something that are already taken.
It’s kneads to end. We must have a registrar who cheques any knew words before they are aloud. I mite just start an anti-homonym petition to peak sum interest and take it from their.
Eye halve a spelling chequer
It came with my pea sea
It plainly marques four my revue
Miss steaks eye kin knot sea.Eye strike a quay and type a word
And weight four it two say
Weather eye am wrong oar write
It shows me strait a weigh.As soon as a mist ache is maid
It nose bee fore two long
And eye can put the error rite
It’s rare lea ever wrong.Eye have run this poem threw it
I am shore your pleased two no
It’s letter perfect awl the weigh
My chequer tolled me sew.
Hahahahahahahaha!
:)
sarahs mum said:
: Cam Blake Photography
: @mattdavis_photography
: Nick Monk Photography
more Disappearing tarn.
Gorgeous.
sarahs mum said:
: Cam Blake Photography
: @mattdavis_photography
: Nick Monk Photography
more Disappearing tarn.
It’s a lovely spot when it’s there.
Must have been a lot of rain upstream from here as the river’s swollen and moving fast. When I went out this morning there were islands of ice and snow in it. Shame I didn’t have the camera.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-25/giant-shark-stalks-unsuspecting-surfers-plettenberg-bay/12391682
If the water is clear enough to see the shark, then the shark is no threat to you.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
: Cam Blake Photography
: @mattdavis_photography
: Nick Monk Photography
more Disappearing tarn.
It’s a lovely spot when it’s there.
Must have been a lot of rain upstream from here as the river’s swollen and moving fast. When I went out this morning there were islands of ice and snow in it. Shame I didn’t have the camera.
It’s very grey and wet here. Still.
Heidi said her footage of Snug River made the ABC news in WA.
roughbarked said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-25/giant-shark-stalks-unsuspecting-surfers-plettenberg-bay/12391682If the water is clear enough to see the shark, then the shark is no threat to you.
As it can see you aren’t food ?
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
: Cam Blake Photography
: @mattdavis_photography
: Nick Monk Photography
more Disappearing tarn.
It’s a lovely spot when it’s there.
Must have been a lot of rain upstream from here as the river’s swollen and moving fast. When I went out this morning there were islands of ice and snow in it. Shame I didn’t have the camera.
It’s very grey and wet here. Still.
Heidi said her footage of Snug River made the ABC news in WA.
Has been overcast and misty all week here but still only 15mm.

Cymek said:
roughbarked said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-25/giant-shark-stalks-unsuspecting-surfers-plettenberg-bay/12391682If the water is clear enough to see the shark, then the shark is no threat to you.
As it can see you aren’t food ?
Sharks prefer to attack by stealth and usually hunt at night or when the water is murky.
Generally they sometimes may mistake a wetsuit for a seal or a surfboard paddler as a struggling turtle.
roughbarked said:
Cymek said:
roughbarked said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-25/giant-shark-stalks-unsuspecting-surfers-plettenberg-bay/12391682If the water is clear enough to see the shark, then the shark is no threat to you.
As it can see you aren’t food ?
Sharks prefer to attack by stealth and usually hunt at night or when the water is murky.
Generally they sometimes may mistake a wetsuit for a seal or a surfboard paddler as a struggling turtle.
That’s what I meant, they usually bite us by mistake and who knows how hungry they maybe due to lack of food from overfishing
Cymek said:
roughbarked said:
Cymek said:As it can see you aren’t food ?
Sharks prefer to attack by stealth and usually hunt at night or when the water is murky.
Generally they sometimes may mistake a wetsuit for a seal or a surfboard paddler as a struggling turtle.
That’s what I meant, they usually bite us by mistake and who knows how hungry they maybe due to lack of food from overfishing
If it thinks you are a seal then you are never going to survive unless you get a little crazy…
furious said:
Cymek said:
roughbarked said:Sharks prefer to attack by stealth and usually hunt at night or when the water is murky.
Generally they sometimes may mistake a wetsuit for a seal or a surfboard paddler as a struggling turtle.
That’s what I meant, they usually bite us by mistake and who knows how hungry they maybe due to lack of food from overfishing
If it thinks you are a seal then you are never going to survive unless you get a little crazy…
golf clap
Time for a pre-dinner lay-me-down.
Hoping to have my sleeping hours sorted and stable before long. I’m getting too old for these pointless rotations and accompanying jet lag.
Bubblecar said:
Time for a pre-dinner lay-me-down.Hoping to have my sleeping hours sorted and stable before long. I’m getting too old for these pointless rotations and accompanying jet lag.
I have woken up in the afternoon the last few days. and considering how much natural light isn’t available this time of year it is not working for me.
Bubblecar said:
Time for a pre-dinner lay-me-down.Hoping to have my sleeping hours sorted and stable before long. I’m getting too old for these pointless rotations and accompanying jet lag.
Maybe napping during the day isn’t helping.
To back up sm’s notice last night:
https://www.sciencealert.com/un-is-verifying-reports-arctic-summer-temperatures-have-just-hit-a-blazing-new-high
Witty Rejoinder said:
ROFL
Witty Rejoinder said:
giggle
Witty Rejoinder said:
lol :)
Good old parochialism in the face of a national crisis.
So do we have any thoughts about which one of us is logging in as The-Spectator ever more frequently?
The Rev Dodgson said:
So do we have any thoughts about which one of us is logging in as The-Spectator ever more frequently?
Yes…
The Rev Dodgson said:
So do we have any thoughts about which one of us is logging in as The-Spectator ever more frequently?
It’s not me this time
furious said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
So do we have any thoughts about which one of us is logging in as The-Spectator ever more frequently?
Yes…
Not me.
Michael V said:
furious said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
So do we have any thoughts about which one of us is logging in as The-Spectator ever more frequently?
Yes…
Not me.
:-)
Michael V said:
furious said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
So do we have any thoughts about which one of us is logging in as The-Spectator ever more frequently?
Yes…
Not me.
ahhh… The Expectorator?
Woodie said:
Michael V said:
furious said:Yes…
Not me.
ahhh… The Expectorator?
spits
Michael V said:
Woodie said:
Michael V said:Not me.
ahhh… The Expectorator?
spits

party_pants said:
Michael V said:
Woodie said:ahhh… The Expectorator?
spits
Ha!
:)
Tonight I’m thinking pizza, proper Italian pizza.
Over
Peak Warming Man said:
Tonight I’m thinking pizza, proper Italian pizza.
Over
Mr buffy bought a cooked chook in Hamilton…
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Tonight I’m thinking pizza, proper Italian pizza.
Over
Mr buffy bought a cooked chook in Hamilton…
Watch him.
Michael V said:
furious said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
So do we have any thoughts about which one of us is logging in as The-Spectator ever more frequently?
Yes…
Not me.
That’s just what The Spectator would say…
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Tonight I’m thinking pizza, proper Italian pizza.
Over
Mr buffy bought a cooked chook in Hamilton…
Watch him.
Far too little an offer I think
Here is a nifty use of a cable tie. These two published a patient’s idea. But I like it.
https://sci-hub.tw/10.1111/aos.14301
“Improving eye drop adherence: a simple technique using a cable tie”
(That waving woman is in the bottom corner at SciHub again)
Oops.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-25/protesters-pull-down-wrong-us-statue/12390702
This is probably why education would be a Good Thing.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Oh, so you can catch Coronavirus up the arse? Or is it a special anal COVID?
Cymek said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
So do we have any thoughts about which one of us is logging in as The-Spectator ever more frequently?
It’s not me this time
Can we just blame you anyway?
Divine Angel said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Oh, so you can catch Coronavirus up the arse? Or is it a special anal COVID?
See my coronavirus post. You, too, can prevent corona-up-the-arse.
buffy said:
Here is a nifty use of a cable tie. These two published a patient’s idea. But I like it.https://sci-hub.tw/10.1111/aos.14301
“Improving eye drop adherence: a simple technique using a cable tie”
(That waving woman is in the bottom corner at SciHub again)
I think she is there to annoy people and make them go away.
buffy said:
Oops.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-25/protesters-pull-down-wrong-us-statue/12390702
This is probably why education would be a Good Thing.
A statue of Ulysses S. Grant was pulled down the other day. The stupid is strong.
Today at the dog park we had Louie the boxer, Trooper the Australian Shepherd, Luna and Stella the Dalmatians, and Jellybean the bitzer.
Divine Angel said:
Today at the dog park we had Louie the boxer, Trooper the Australian Shepherd, Luna and Stella the Dalmatians, and Jellybean the bitzer.
that is a good cast.
screenplay coming?
Divine Angel said:
Today at the dog park we had Louie the boxer, Trooper the Australian Shepherd, Luna and Stella the Dalmatians, and Jellybean the bitzer.
Bitzer Malone all skinny and boney
Divine Angel said:
Today at the dog park we had Louie the boxer, Trooper the Australian Shepherd, Luna and Stella the Dalmatians, and Jellybean the bitzer.
She keeps good company.
:)
buffy said:
Oops.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-25/protesters-pull-down-wrong-us-statue/12390702
This is probably why education would be a Good Thing.
too bad the term collateral damage is monopolized elsewhere, sullied, though’d be fitting, I won’t go looking for the intellectual arguments, what passes for, justifying that, i’ve read a few, heard a few, and they seem to migrate through the eather courtesy influencers, not sure if it’s marx, gramsci or whatever, maybe theories migrating from the humanities, or perhaps it’s more the repressed excitability from toddler age, finds expression later in grownup ideas
transition said:
buffy said:
Oops.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-25/protesters-pull-down-wrong-us-statue/12390702
This is probably why education would be a Good Thing.
too bad the term collateral damage is monopolized elsewhere, sullied, though’d be fitting, I won’t go looking for the intellectual arguments, what passes for, justifying that, i’ve read a few, heard a few, and they seem to migrate through the eather courtesy influencers, not sure if it’s marx, gramsci or whatever, maybe theories migrating from the humanities, or perhaps it’s more the repressed excitability from toddler age, finds expression later in grownup ideas
aether even, or ether, or aither

“A statue of one of America’s fiercest anti-slavery activists has been decapitated and dragged into a lake after being wrongly targeted by anti-racism protesters during a night of violence in the country’s Midwest.”
ROFL
Peak Warming Man said:
“A statue of one of America’s fiercest anti-slavery activists has been decapitated and dragged into a lake after being wrongly targeted by anti-racism protesters during a night of violence in the country’s Midwest.”ROFL
legit’ we thought having statues there was meant to be the greatest way to make sure people learn history
Peak Warming Man said:
“A statue of one of America’s fiercest anti-slavery activists has been decapitated and dragged into a lake after being wrongly targeted by anti-racism protesters during a night of violence in the country’s Midwest.”ROFL
They may not be smart…but they can lift heavy things.
Peak Warming Man said:
“A statue of one of America’s fiercest anti-slavery activists has been decapitated and dragged into a lake after being wrongly targeted by anti-racism protesters during a night of violence in the country’s Midwest.”ROFL
Oh America. let me count the ways I can laugh at you!
This bloke is a magician, watch how many times he puts his hands into his pockets and sleeves and his assistant looks dodgy.
He also shows how magnetic travel is nothing more than a Archimedes screw.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OI_HFnNTfyU
Peak Warming Man said:
This bloke is a magician, watch how many times he puts his hands into his pockets and sleeves and his assistant looks dodgy.
He also shows how magnetic travel is nothing more than a Archimedes screw.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OI_HFnNTfyU
when I was about 16 or so I got a book of his out of the library. didn’t understand much but did learn a bit of maglev. probably Experiments with a Linear Induction Motor
JudgeMental said:
Peak Warming Man said:
This bloke is a magician, watch how many times he puts his hands into his pockets and sleeves and his assistant looks dodgy.
He also shows how magnetic travel is nothing more than a Archimedes screw.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OI_HFnNTfyU
when I was about 16 or so I got a book of his out of the library. didn’t understand much but did learn a bit of maglev. probably Experiments with a Linear Induction Motor
some of the woo merchants have got into the picture
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAckjYtdig0
Finished watching Thalu. I really enjoyed that. I know it’s kids TV. Don’t care.
https://tvtonight.com.au/2020/04/thalu.html
Top of 31 deg C in London today
dv said:
Top of 31 deg C in London today
The whinging would have been legion.
sibeen said:
dv said:
Top of 31 deg C in London today
The whinging would have been legion.
most poms these days are from hot countries…
National broadcaster The ABC will axe up to 250 jobs, including sub-editors and proof readers, as it deals with bigger than expected cunts from the Coalition Government.
“We’ve been dealing with these cunts for years now, but they seem to be getting worse,” an un-checked statement from the ABC read.
The Government defended the cuts, saying they were necessary to get the budget back in balance. “We’ve been wanking really hard to find budget savings,” a Liberal Party MP who shits on the front bench said.
“And look, this is going to affect a lot of people personally – up to 250 staff. I know that having a blowjob is really important – I wish I could personally give one to everyone. But the fact is we need to find savings.
“This isn’t just about the ABC. This government to date has cocked up over $60 billion in savings – there are cunts across the board”.
One sub-editor, who was asked for her opinion on the government’s decision, said she doesn’t comment on the policy decision of fuckheads.
-Shovel
Hei Long is writing to his cousin, Victoria…
“On my particular advice and recommendation I have persuaded buffy that you would feel a most joyful alacrity and be properly overjoyed to receive a tasteful beanbag for indoor use. She recognized your high animal spirits but feels you may be persuaded to occasionally emulate an elegant female. I was so much delighted when I saw that my pleas had been heeded”
My sister in law and I used to write letters to each other in the Jane Austen style over 10 years ago, and I found my lists of quotes the other day. So as I’ve ordered a dog beanbag for her dog Victoria, I decided to compose a letter. It’s quite good fun to do.
:)
buffy said:
Hei Long is writing to his cousin, Victoria…“On my particular advice and recommendation I have persuaded buffy that you would feel a most joyful alacrity and be properly overjoyed to receive a tasteful beanbag for indoor use. She recognized your high animal spirits but feels you may be persuaded to occasionally emulate an elegant female. I was so much delighted when I saw that my pleas had been heeded”
My sister in law and I used to write letters to each other in the Jane Austen style over 10 years ago, and I found my lists of quotes the other day. So as I’ve ordered a dog beanbag for her dog Victoria, I decided to compose a letter. It’s quite good fun to do.
:)
LOL
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-25/giant-shark-stalks-unsuspecting-surfers-plettenberg-bay/12391682
Quite a big shark. Looks like it wants to join the gang.
JudgeMental said:
sibeen said:
dv said:
Top of 31 deg C in London today
The whinging would have been legion.
most poms these days are from hot countries…
Well if you include England in hot countries, yes.
buffy said:
Hei Long is writing to his cousin, Victoria…“On my particular advice and recommendation I have persuaded buffy that you would feel a most joyful alacrity and be properly overjoyed to receive a tasteful beanbag for indoor use. She recognized your high animal spirits but feels you may be persuaded to occasionally emulate an elegant female. I was so much delighted when I saw that my pleas had been heeded”
My sister in law and I used to write letters to each other in the Jane Austen style over 10 years ago, and I found my lists of quotes the other day. So as I’ve ordered a dog beanbag for her dog Victoria, I decided to compose a letter. It’s quite good fun to do.
:)
:)
https://www.theage.com.au/business/companies/google-to-pay-publishers-under-new-licensing-deal-20200625-p55694.html
late and little but better than nothing or never we guess
Well that’s it. They’re fucked.
Woodie said:
Well that’s it. They’re fucked.
Who are “they”?
Michael V said:
Woodie said:
Well that’s it. They’re fucked.
Who are “they”?
After all these years knowing him you should have a fair idea.
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
Woodie said:
Well that’s it. They’re fucked.
Who are “they”?
After all these years knowing him you should have a fair idea.
His beloved Swannies?
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
Michael V said:Who are “they”?
After all these years knowing him you should have a fair idea.
His beloved Swannies?
They may not be beloved right at this moment :)
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
sibeen said:After all these years knowing him you should have a fair idea.
His beloved Swannies?
They may not be beloved right at this moment :)
I didn’t know there was a match on.
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
Michael V said:Who are “they”?
After all these years knowing him you should have a fair idea.
His beloved Swannies?
Who? Never ‘eard of ‘em. Just have a look at the crowd on the tele. Everyone, yep, everyone went home at half time.
Woodie said:
Michael V said:
sibeen said:After all these years knowing him you should have a fair idea.
His beloved Swannies?
Who? Never ‘eard of ‘em. Just have a look at the crowd on the tele. Everyone, yep, everyone went home at half time.
Score?
(Thursday is Mrs V’s TV soaps night. I don’t like those soaps…)
Reading in the living room tonight, with the new reading lamp and a fine and warming Taylors cab sauv.
Still haven’t had dinner, I’ll get it going in an hour or so.
Michael V said:
Woodie said:
Michael V said:His beloved Swannies?
Who? Never ‘eard of ‘em. Just have a look at the crowd on the tele. Everyone, yep, everyone went home at half time.
Score?
(Thursday is Mrs V’s TV soaps night. I don’t like those soaps…)
you prefer the HF Soapie?
Michael V said:
Woodie said:
Michael V said:His beloved Swannies?
Who? Never ‘eard of ‘em. Just have a look at the crowd on the tele. Everyone, yep, everyone went home at half time.
Score?
(Thursday is Mrs V’s TV soaps night. I don’t like those soaps…)
Woodie said:
Michael V said:
Woodie said:Who? Never ‘eard of ‘em. Just have a look at the crowd on the tele. Everyone, yep, everyone went home at half time.
Score?
(Thursday is Mrs V’s TV soaps night. I don’t like those soaps…)
You don’t win football games by kicking two goals in three quarters of football. Even the seaguls have left.
JudgeMental said:
Michael V said:
Woodie said:Who? Never ‘eard of ‘em. Just have a look at the crowd on the tele. Everyone, yep, everyone went home at half time.
Score?
(Thursday is Mrs V’s TV soaps night. I don’t like those soaps…)
you prefer the HF Soapie?
Yeah.
Woodie said:
Michael V said:
Woodie said:Who? Never ‘eard of ‘em. Just have a look at the crowd on the tele. Everyone, yep, everyone went home at half time.
Score?
(Thursday is Mrs V’s TV soaps night. I don’t like those soaps…)
Oh dear…
Woodie said:
Woodie said:
Michael V said:Score?
(Thursday is Mrs V’s TV soaps night. I don’t like those soaps…)
You don’t win football games by kicking two goals in three quarters of football. Even the seaguls have left.
steve’n‘seagulls?

A Tanzanian subsistence miner has hit the jackpot after the government handed him a cheque for 7.74bn Tanzanian shillings ($3.35m) for the two largest tanzanite gemstones ever found.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/25/small-scale-miner-finds-biggest-tanzanite-gems-in-history-worth-33m
sarahs mum said:
![]()
A Tanzanian subsistence miner has hit the jackpot after the government handed him a cheque for 7.74bn Tanzanian shillings ($3.35m) for the two largest tanzanite gemstones ever found.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/25/small-scale-miner-finds-biggest-tanzanite-gems-in-history-worth-33m
Good luck to him, I wish him well.
sarahs mum said:
![]()
A Tanzanian subsistence miner has hit the jackpot after the government handed him a cheque for 7.74bn Tanzanian shillings ($3.35m) for the two largest tanzanite gemstones ever found.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/25/small-scale-miner-finds-biggest-tanzanite-gems-in-history-worth-33m
Hey-Zeuss!
Tanzanite only occurs over a small area (a few sqare kilometres). I have a few non-gem-quality specimens that I bought in a market in Arusha, Tanzania.
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
![]()
A Tanzanian subsistence miner has hit the jackpot after the government handed him a cheque for 7.74bn Tanzanian shillings ($3.35m) for the two largest tanzanite gemstones ever found.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/25/small-scale-miner-finds-biggest-tanzanite-gems-in-history-worth-33m
Hey-Zeuss!
Tanzanite only occurs over a small area (a few sqare kilometres). I have a few non-gem-quality specimens that I bought in a market in Arusha, Tanzania.
I thought you would be interested.
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
![]()
A Tanzanian subsistence miner has hit the jackpot after the government handed him a cheque for 7.74bn Tanzanian shillings ($3.35m) for the two largest tanzanite gemstones ever found.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/25/small-scale-miner-finds-biggest-tanzanite-gems-in-history-worth-33m
Good luck to him, I wish him well.
Interesting, the term “subsistence mining” really does enjoy some use but it is somewhat different to the usual sense of subsistence, anyway
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
![]()
A Tanzanian subsistence miner has hit the jackpot after the government handed him a cheque for 7.74bn Tanzanian shillings ($3.35m) for the two largest tanzanite gemstones ever found.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/25/small-scale-miner-finds-biggest-tanzanite-gems-in-history-worth-33m
Hey-Zeuss!
Tanzanite only occurs over a small area (a few square kilometres). I have a few non-gem-quality specimens that I bought in a market in Arusha, Tanzania.
For more info:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanzanite
sarahs mum said:
![]()
A Tanzanian subsistence miner has hit the jackpot after the government handed him a cheque for 7.74bn Tanzanian shillings ($3.35m) for the two largest tanzanite gemstones ever found.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/25/small-scale-miner-finds-biggest-tanzanite-gems-in-history-worth-33m
He broke it in half!!
Woodie said:
sarahs mum said:
![]()
A Tanzanian subsistence miner has hit the jackpot after the government handed him a cheque for 7.74bn Tanzanian shillings ($3.35m) for the two largest tanzanite gemstones ever found.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/25/small-scale-miner-finds-biggest-tanzanite-gems-in-history-worth-33m
He broke it in half!!
And still got a shit-load of money for it. In a country where the majority of people live for under $1.50(USD, price parity) per day…
Taters roasting. About to start the mushroom gravy (chopped Swiss browns + chopped garlic cooked in butter with a little thyme, add a splash of red wine, pan juices when ready, then some Gravox to make it gravier).
sarahs mum said:
![]()
A Tanzanian subsistence miner has hit the jackpot after the government handed him a cheque for 7.74bn Tanzanian shillings ($3.35m) for the two largest tanzanite gemstones ever found.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/25/small-scale-miner-finds-biggest-tanzanite-gems-in-history-worth-33m
thanx for that just looked it up
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanzanite
“Tanzanite is the blue and violet variety of the mineral zoisite (a calcium aluminium hydroxyl sorosilicate), caused by small amounts of vanadium. Tanzanite belongs to the epidote mineral group. Tanzanite is only found in Tanzania, in a very small mining area (approximately 7 km (4.3 mi) long and 2 km (1.2 mi) wide) near the Mererani Hills.
Tanzanite is noted for its remarkably strong trichroism, appearing alternately blue, violet and burgundy depending on crystal orientation. Tanzanite can also appear differently when viewed under different lighting conditions. The blues appear more evident when subjected to fluorescent light and the violet hues can be seen readily when viewed under incandescent illumination. In its rough state tanzanite is colored a reddish brown to clear, and it requires heat treatment to remove the brownish “veil” and bring out the blue violet of the stone.
The gemstone was given the name ‘tanzanite’ by Tiffany & Co. after Tanzania, the country in which it was discovered….”
Bubblecar said:
Taters roasting. About to start the mushroom gravy (chopped Swiss browns + chopped garlic cooked in butter with a little thyme, add a splash of red wine, pan juices when ready, then some Gravox to make it gravier).
looks away ignoring you, making me hungry
hopeless at the moment, i’m just an eating machine with this cold weather
Michael V said:
Woodie said:
sarahs mum said:
![]()
A Tanzanian subsistence miner has hit the jackpot after the government handed him a cheque for 7.74bn Tanzanian shillings ($3.35m) for the two largest tanzanite gemstones ever found.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/25/small-scale-miner-finds-biggest-tanzanite-gems-in-history-worth-33m
He broke it in half!!
And still got a shit-load of money for it. In a country where the majority of people live for under $1.50(USD, price parity) per day…
I don’t think he will be able to afford the shopping mall and the school. Maybe.
transition said:
Bubblecar said:
Taters roasting. About to start the mushroom gravy (chopped Swiss browns + chopped garlic cooked in butter with a little thyme, add a splash of red wine, pan juices when ready, then some Gravox to make it gravier).
looks away ignoring you, making me hungry
hopeless at the moment, i’m just an eating machine with this cold weather
It’s actually a good time of year for losing weight. I’ll be semi-fasting next week after this festive weekend (birthday party at the sister’s place in Pontville on Sunday. Everyone will be bringing food. I’m going to do one of my apple+ pies).
sarahs mum said:
Michael V said:
Woodie said:He broke it in half!!
And still got a shit-load of money for it. In a country where the majority of people live for under $1.50(USD, price parity) per day…
I don’t think he will be able to afford the shopping mall and the school. Maybe.
He could buy pretty much anything there with that amount of money.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amIMdUYEIJU
Fuck All The Perfect People – Chip’Taylor & The New Ukrainians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chip_Taylor
gees has anyone else died since I last stuck my head in the door?
dv said:
isle.
diddly-squat said:
gees has anyone else died since I last stuck my head in the door?
we’re dropping like flies.
did you hear about Richard C?
dv said:
I’m gonna take “Things that never happened” for $200 please…
sarahs mum said:
diddly-squat said:gees has anyone else died since I last stuck my head in the door?
we’re dropping like flies.
did you hear about Richard C?
no.. but didn’t really frequent here, did he
diddly-squat said:
sarahs mum said:
diddly-squat said:gees has anyone else died since I last stuck my head in the door?
we’re dropping like flies.
did you hear about Richard C?
no.. but didn’t really frequent here, did he
It’s been a long time. but we occasionally chatted on fbook.
The output and storage of South Australia’s big Tesla battery will increase by 50 per cent within weeks if the project’s final tests run smoothly.
Key points:
The State Government says the expansion at Jamestown, in the state’s Mid North, will make an extra 50 megawatts of power available to the market.
Energy Minister Dan Van Holst Pelekaan said the boost would further stabilise the state’s grid, which relies heavily on renewables.
“We’re making the biggest battery in the world 50 percent bigger, but we’re also making it do more for consumers,” he said.
The Minister said the expansion would allow massive amounts of energy to enter the grid almost instantaneously.
more..
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-25/final-testing-underway-on-tesla-battery-expansion/12393046
sarahs mum said:
diddly-squat said:
sarahs mum said:we’re dropping like flies.
did you hear about Richard C?
no.. but didn’t really frequent here, did he
It’s been a long time. but we occasionally chatted on fbook.
He didn’t post here, but I have fond memories of Richard C in SSSF.
Verdict: steak was both melt-in-the-mouth and tasty, gravy was sublime, potatoes were perfect.
Didn’t do any greens in the end so I’ll OD on them tomorrow.
JudgeMental said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amIMdUYEIJUFuck All The Perfect People – Chip’Taylor & The New Ukrainians
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chip_Taylor
dv said:
Hehehehe
‘Stop at Nothing’ the Lance Armstrong thing has just started on SBS.
Jonathan Pie
634K subscribers
Pie visits Glastonbury on the eve of the cancelled festival to interview some bloke from the Theatre & Circus area and ponder the significance of arts and entertainment amidst Covid19.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOVvJwNnouM
Good mornning. Currently 3.0°C no wind at all and 97%r/h.
Just set up PayPal to buy some clock parts from Canada. Suddenly I feel the need for another hour of sleep.
Good morning Holidayers. We have a zero and light frost. Forecast is for mostly sunny and 13. I should be able to do gardening again today. It’s been too wet the last 4 or 5 days.
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. We have a zero and light frost. Forecast is for mostly sunny and 13. I should be able to do gardening again today. It’s been too wet the last 4 or 5 days.
Currently
2.0°C here. Still no wind and r/h is up to 98%.Yay for the Women’s Soccer World Cup bid win.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Yay for the Women’s Soccer World Cup bid win.
Best chance for a win. On local ground.

Mornin’.
Was 8 when I got up but is now 12, heading for a sunny and dry 21.
It’s the last day of term. A kid in Mini Me’s class was handing out birthday party invitations but Mini Me didn’t get one although her best friend did. I hope Mini Me isn’t too upset. So far I’ve organised a few play dates for over the holidays with her friends. School holiday library events are still cancelled.
JudgeMental said:
2nd time here.
But is it true?
The Rev Dodgson said:
JudgeMental said:
2nd time here.
But is it true?
well, one can fact check it via the internet as long as one knows what to look for. i doubt it is accurate. maybe an all up cost of reopening Xmas Is and the ongoing cost.

Michael V said:
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
![]()
A Tanzanian subsistence miner has hit the jackpot after the government handed him a cheque for 7.74bn Tanzanian shillings ($3.35m) for the two largest tanzanite gemstones ever found.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/25/small-scale-miner-finds-biggest-tanzanite-gems-in-history-worth-33m
Hey-Zeuss!
Tanzanite only occurs over a small area (a few square kilometres). I have a few non-gem-quality specimens that I bought in a market in Arusha, Tanzania.
For more info:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanzanite
Thanks. So it’s marginally softer than quartz?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-26/brendan-murphy-last-day-cmo-borders-coronavirus-vaccine/12380456
OK, I know he’s been shouldering a lot for the past few months, but I would have thought you should keep him in the position a few months longer yet. He’s the one with the overview in his head.
buffy said:
Michael V said:
Michael V said:Hey-Zeuss!
Tanzanite only occurs over a small area (a few square kilometres). I have a few non-gem-quality specimens that I bought in a market in Arusha, Tanzania.
For more info:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanzanite
Thanks. So it’s marginally softer than quartz?
Well, it’s between Orthoclase Feldspar and Quartz, (as is a metalworker’s file). This means Tanzanite would scratch Orthoclase, and in turn be scratched by Quartz.
Michael V said:
buffy said:
Michael V said:For more info:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanzanite
Thanks. So it’s marginally softer than quartz?
Well, it’s between Orthoclase Feldspar and Quartz, (as is a metalworker’s file). This means Tanzanite would scratch Orthoclase, and in turn be scratched by Quartz.
You would have to be careful with your rings then?
(Not that I bother wearing jewellery much, but some people do.)
Going outside for a bit. I want to put in some poppy seed.
buffy said:
Michael V said:
buffy said:Thanks. So it’s marginally softer than quartz?
Well, it’s between Orthoclase Feldspar and Quartz, (as is a metalworker’s file). This means Tanzanite would scratch Orthoclase, and in turn be scratched by Quartz.
You would have to be careful with your rings then?
(Not that I bother wearing jewellery much, but some people do.)
I’d think so. Might be better as a brooch.
coffee landed
honey on my toast this morn, what them bees make yeah
Todays quote comes from Fred Dag Hammarskjöld a former UN general secretary and sheep worrier.
He said the United Nations was not formed to deliver mankind to heaven but rather to save it from hell.
buffy said:
Michael V said:
buffy said:Thanks. So it’s marginally softer than quartz?
Well, it’s between Orthoclase Feldspar and Quartz, (as is a metalworker’s file). This means Tanzanite would scratch Orthoclase, and in turn be scratched by Quartz.
You would have to be careful with your rings then?
(Not that I bother wearing jewellery much, but some people do.)
Rings always wear out. Though they wear more quickly if rubbing on anything.
Chores done, breakfast eaten, plots plotted and schemes schemed.
Might need to make an early trip to the shops before all the f’n tourists turn up for another school holidays.
buffy said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-26/brendan-murphy-last-day-cmo-borders-coronavirus-vaccine/12380456
OK, I know he’s been shouldering a lot for the past few months, but I would have thought you should keep him in the position a few months longer yet. He’s the one with the overview in his head.
He’s been all over it, a very smart bloke.
You can tell he’s brainy by his big bushy eyebrows and the way he dresses himself.
twice I have submitted a job application through the jobs wa website (once last night and once this morning) and twice it says “We’re sorry, something went wrong.. yada yada yada
it’s like the economy doesn’t even want me to be gainfully employed.
Rule 303 said:
Chores done, breakfast eaten, plots plotted and schemes schemed.Might need to make an early trip to the shops before all the f’n tourists turn up for another school holidays.
Well having done all your jobs so early you deserve a spot of retail therapy.
Any idea what you are going to buy or just play it by ear? A stroll through K-Mart could see you come away with a nice pair of new rubber thongs at a reasonable price.
Arts said:
twice I have submitted a job application through the jobs wa website (once last night and once this morning) and twice it says “We’re sorry, something went wrong.. yada yada yadait’s like the economy doesn’t even want me to be gainfully employed.
It goes rong right at the end too I bet, hey.
Peak Warming Man said:
Rule 303 said:
Chores done, breakfast eaten, plots plotted and schemes schemed.Might need to make an early trip to the shops before all the f’n tourists turn up for another school holidays.
Well having done all your jobs so early you deserve a spot of retail therapy.
Any idea what you are going to buy or just play it by ear? A stroll through K-Mart could see you come away with a nice pair of new rubber thongs at a reasonable price.
Are you a Kmart tragic now that Crazy Clark’s have shut down?
Peak Warming Man said:
Arts said:
twice I have submitted a job application through the jobs wa website (once last night and once this morning) and twice it says “We’re sorry, something went wrong.. yada yada yadait’s like the economy doesn’t even want me to be gainfully employed.
It goes rong right at the end too I bet, hey.
obviously
Amazon to Rename Seattle’s KeyArena ‘Climate Pledge Arena’
://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-06-25/amazon-to-rename-seattle-s-keyarena-climate-pledge-arena?
Witty Rejoinder said:
Amazon to Rename Seattle’s KeyArena ‘Climate Pledge Arena’://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-06-25/amazon-to-rename-seattle-s-keyarena-climate-pledge-arena?
I’m not anticlimate but that’s not a great name
Arts, sent you a DM on Facebook. You should go look.
Peak Warming Man said:
Rule 303 said:
Chores done, breakfast eaten, plots plotted and schemes schemed.Might need to make an early trip to the shops before all the f’n tourists turn up for another school holidays.
Well having done all your jobs so early you deserve a spot of retail therapy.
Any idea what you are going to buy or just play it by ear? A stroll through K-Mart could see you come away with a nice pair of new rubber thongs at a reasonable price.
And, being Winter, this would be the time to buy thongs to get the off-season savings. Smart.
The current ‘hot spot’ areas of Melbourne are where most of our tourists seem to come from, and you can bet your arse they wont be following the instructions to stay home, so I’ll be doing my best to stay away from supermarkets for a while.
Ah fuck … I’m a third of the way to my weight loss goal. Which … ah … it’s not even half. Still, it’s more than three tenths.
dv said:
Ah fuck … I’m a third of the way to my weight loss goal. Which … ah … it’s not even half. Still, it’s more than three tenths.
Have you yet reached the state of one over pie.
Rule 303 said:
Chores done, breakfast eaten, plots plotted and schemes schemed.Might need to make an early trip to the shops before all the f’n tourists turn up for another school holidays.
Don’t worry, my brother from Ivanhoe has his house over the other side from you. At Somers. He’s the rich brother.
:)
Looks like that’s it, you can no longer click to go back to the old format as of today.
Well it’s no better than the old format that worked just fine.
And where did the ABC find the money to change something that didn’t need changing except to give a contract to some IT mob that drink at the same pub in Ultimo.
It’s not right.
sibeen said:
dv said:
Ah fuck … I’m a third of the way to my weight loss goal. Which … ah … it’s not even half. Still, it’s more than three tenths.
Have you yet reached the state of one over pie.
pie, I miss pie…
Peak Warming Man said:
Looks like that’s it, you can no longer click to go back to the old format as of today.
Well it’s no better than the old format that worked just fine.
And where did the ABC find the money to change something that didn’t need changing except to give a contract to some IT mob that drink at the same pub in Ultimo.
It’s not right.
Maybe they could hire a part time spelling and grammar checker.
Peak Warming Man said:
Looks like that’s it, you can no longer click to go back to the old format as of today.
Well it’s no better than the old format that worked just fine.
And where did the ABC find the money to change something that didn’t need changing except to give a contract to some IT mob that drink at the same pub in Ultimo.
It’s not right.
Well if it’s not worse than the old format they deserve congratulations for doing a bloody good job, and probably achieving a first in the history of computing.
Which reminds me, this new Edge thing has apparently decided I want to spell like a Merkin.
Anyone know how to fix that?
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Looks like that’s it, you can no longer click to go back to the old format as of today.
Well it’s no better than the old format that worked just fine.
And where did the ABC find the money to change something that didn’t need changing except to give a contract to some IT mob that drink at the same pub in Ultimo.
It’s not right.
Well if it’s not worse than the old format they deserve congratulations for doing a bloody good job, and probably achieving a first in the history of computing.
Which reminds me, this new Edge thing has apparently decided I want to spell like a Merkin.
Anyone know how to fix that?
Go to settings and change the language?
Hmm, I was going to put in some poppy seed, wasn’t I. Did some weeding and tidying instead. Some of it had to be done before the seeding. But it sort of expanded. I’ll do it now and then make a toasted cheese sammich for lunch to eat with a bit of cold roast chook.
Supposed to be having Indian food for tea tonight. But our supermarket cook might be going to Sydney for the weekend. I don’t think that’s a good idea. Anyway, if she is not going we get fed. If she is going, I’ve got the makings for nachos on standby.
buffy said:
Hmm, I was going to put in some poppy seed, wasn’t I. Did some weeding and tidying instead. Some of it had to be done before the seeding. But it sort of expanded. I’ll do it now and then make a toasted cheese sammich for lunch to eat with a bit of cold roast chook.Supposed to be having Indian food for tea tonight. But our supermarket cook might be going to Sydney for the weekend. I don’t think that’s a good idea. Anyway, if she is not going we get fed. If she is going, I’ve got the makings for nachos on standby.
I’ve got a killer Scallop curry recipe, if you’re keen.
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Looks like that’s it, you can no longer click to go back to the old format as of today.
Well it’s no better than the old format that worked just fine.
And where did the ABC find the money to change something that didn’t need changing except to give a contract to some IT mob that drink at the same pub in Ultimo.
It’s not right.
Well if it’s not worse than the old format they deserve congratulations for doing a bloody good job, and probably achieving a first in the history of computing.
Which reminds me, this new Edge thing has apparently decided I want to spell like a Merkin.
Anyone know how to fix that?
Go to settings and change the language?
Let’s see if it recognises some colourful words now.
Nope.
Maybe restart.
You seen this SM, if you’re about.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-20/keeping-alive-the-history-of-hobarts-art-nouveau-mountain-huts/12335222
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Well if it’s not worse than the old format they deserve congratulations for doing a bloody good job, and probably achieving a first in the history of computing.
Which reminds me, this new Edge thing has apparently decided I want to spell like a Merkin.
Anyone know how to fix that?
Go to settings and change the language?
Let’s see if it recognises some colourful words now.
Nope.
Maybe restart.
Now recognises colourful.
Had to change the settings in Edge, it doesn’t look at the Windows settings any more, apparently.
I mean the very best their marketing people, proper marketing people with pony tails and worry beads, could come up with is “Clean new look”
I mean really, they are talking to PWM now, someone who is nearly an intellectual, as if I’m going to be impressed with that jabawocky.
buffy said:
Rule 303 said:
Chores done, breakfast eaten, plots plotted and schemes schemed.Might need to make an early trip to the shops before all the f’n tourists turn up for another school holidays.
Don’t worry, my brother from Ivanhoe has his house over the other side from you. At Somers. He’s the rich brother.
:)
We used to go family caravan holiday at Somers every year for Chrissy at the caravan park in the 60s.
Rule 303 said:
buffy said:
Hmm, I was going to put in some poppy seed, wasn’t I. Did some weeding and tidying instead. Some of it had to be done before the seeding. But it sort of expanded. I’ll do it now and then make a toasted cheese sammich for lunch to eat with a bit of cold roast chook.Supposed to be having Indian food for tea tonight. But our supermarket cook might be going to Sydney for the weekend. I don’t think that’s a good idea. Anyway, if she is not going we get fed. If she is going, I’ve got the makings for nachos on standby.
I’ve got a killer Scallop curry recipe, if you’re keen.
Sounds good to me unfortunately Buffy refuses to try shell fish of any kind

Okay so I set English Australia as “Display Edge in This Language”
Then removed all the other languages.
Clicked on the doovy to spell check in that language
A little Restart button showed up so I clicked on that.
It restarted the browser and now it is working.
colour colour color
kryten said:
Rule 303 said:
buffy said:
Hmm, I was going to put in some poppy seed, wasn’t I. Did some weeding and tidying instead. Some of it had to be done before the seeding. But it sort of expanded. I’ll do it now and then make a toasted cheese sammich for lunch to eat with a bit of cold roast chook.Supposed to be having Indian food for tea tonight. But our supermarket cook might be going to Sydney for the weekend. I don’t think that’s a good idea. Anyway, if she is not going we get fed. If she is going, I’ve got the makings for nachos on standby.
I’ve got a killer Scallop curry recipe, if you’re keen.
Sounds good to me unfortunately Buffy refuses to try shell fish of any kind
They’re not shell fish – You buy them inna bag from the supermarket.
:-)
kryten said:
Rule 303 said:
buffy said:
Hmm, I was going to put in some poppy seed, wasn’t I. Did some weeding and tidying instead. Some of it had to be done before the seeding. But it sort of expanded. I’ll do it now and then make a toasted cheese sammich for lunch to eat with a bit of cold roast chook.Supposed to be having Indian food for tea tonight. But our supermarket cook might be going to Sydney for the weekend. I don’t think that’s a good idea. Anyway, if she is not going we get fed. If she is going, I’ve got the makings for nachos on standby.
I’ve got a killer Scallop curry recipe, if you’re keen.
Sounds good to me unfortunately Buffy refuses to try shell fish of any kind
Curiouser and curiouser!
dv said:
![]()
Okay so I set English Australia as “Display Edge in This Language”
Then removed all the other languages.Clicked on the doovy to spell check in that language
A little Restart button showed up so I clicked on that.
It restarted the browser and now it is working.
colour colour color
Yeah, fixed it now.
I assumed that Edge would know about the default languages set in Windows, rather than have its very own settings.
Silly of me I know.
Rule 303 said:
buffy said:
Hmm, I was going to put in some poppy seed, wasn’t I. Did some weeding and tidying instead. Some of it had to be done before the seeding. But it sort of expanded. I’ll do it now and then make a toasted cheese sammich for lunch to eat with a bit of cold roast chook.Supposed to be having Indian food for tea tonight. But our supermarket cook might be going to Sydney for the weekend. I don’t think that’s a good idea. Anyway, if she is not going we get fed. If she is going, I’ve got the makings for nachos on standby.
I’ve got a killer Scallop curry recipe, if you’re keen.
Thanks, but me no eat shellfish.
Oh, and the Indian food is on. They’ve decided to stay put.
Speaking of fish, on the beeb last night they did a thing on how good the pandemic is going to be for fish stocks.
Since the restaurants have shut down the demand for fish has fallen sharply and the boats aren’t going out much now so fish stocks are getting a breather.
They went back to WW2 when most of the fishing fleets in the UK were used for other purposes and anyway it was pretty dangerous to drag a fishing net over the dogger banks.
However after the war there was a few decades that were the golden years of fishing because the fish stock cup runneth over.
Rule 303 said:
kryten said:
Rule 303 said:I’ve got a killer Scallop curry recipe, if you’re keen.
Sounds good to me unfortunately Buffy refuses to try shell fish of any kind
They’re not shell fish – You buy them inna bag from the supermarket.
:-)
Here is me thinking that they grow in the shells that the scallop fishermen rake up
:)
kryten said:
Rule 303 said:
buffy said:
Hmm, I was going to put in some poppy seed, wasn’t I. Did some weeding and tidying instead. Some of it had to be done before the seeding. But it sort of expanded. I’ll do it now and then make a toasted cheese sammich for lunch to eat with a bit of cold roast chook.Supposed to be having Indian food for tea tonight. But our supermarket cook might be going to Sydney for the weekend. I don’t think that’s a good idea. Anyway, if she is not going we get fed. If she is going, I’ve got the makings for nachos on standby.
I’ve got a killer Scallop curry recipe, if you’re keen.
Sounds good to me unfortunately Buffy refuses to try shell fish of any kind
You are welcome to cook them for yourself. On condition I can eat smoked fish when you are at home…
Peak Warming Man said:
Speaking of fish, on the beeb last night they did a thing on how good the pandemic is going to be for fish stocks.
Since the restaurants have shut down the demand for fish has fallen sharply and the boats aren’t going out much now so fish stocks are getting a breather.
They went back to WW2 when most of the fishing fleets in the UK were used for other purposes and anyway it was pretty dangerous to drag a fishing net over the dogger banks.
However after the war there was a few decades that were the golden years of fishing because the fish stock cup runneth over.
The sea is healing!
kryten said:
Rule 303 said:
kryten said:Sounds good to me unfortunately Buffy refuses to try shell fish of any kind
They’re not shell fish – You buy them inna bag from the supermarket.
:-)
Here is me thinking that they grow in the shells that the scallop fishermen rake up
:)
Nah.
Apparently there are more American meanings to words that I’ve never heard of.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-26/the-dixie-chick-change-band-name-to-the-chicks/12395730
Peak Warming Man said:
Looks like that’s it, you can no longer click to go back to the old format as of today.
Well it’s no better than the old format that worked just fine.
And where did the ABC find the money to change something that didn’t need changing except to give a contract to some IT mob that drink at the same pub in Ultimo.
It’s not right.
I agree and told them so.
Fruit muffin filled with gouda and toasted.
buffy said:
kryten said:
Rule 303 said:I’ve got a killer Scallop curry recipe, if you’re keen.
Sounds good to me unfortunately Buffy refuses to try shell fish of any kind
You are welcome to cook them for yourself. On condition I can eat smoked fish when you are at home…
yes yes yes NO!!!
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-26/news-quiz-friday-june-26/12394816
Whoohoo! The ones I guessed were right – 9/10
kryten said:
buffy said:
kryten said:Sounds good to me unfortunately Buffy refuses to try shell fish of any kind
You are welcome to cook them for yourself. On condition I can eat smoked fish when you are at home…
yes yes yes NO!!!
I love shellfish and smoked fish.
Rule 303 said:
Arts, sent you a DM on Facebook. You should go look.
ok… just got back form a walk
>>Responding to the changes earlier in the week, Prime Minister Scott Morrison said the ABC had the most stable funding base of any media company in the country.<<
From: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-26/abc-news-cuts-ita-buttrose-letter-communications-minister/12395280
My immediate response to the PM’s comment is “of course. Because they are the emergency broadcaster I’d damn well hope they have a stable funding base”
Oh, and go Ita!
buffy said:
Oh, and go Ita!
Yes.
buffy said:
>>Responding to the changes earlier in the week, Prime Minister Scott Morrison said the ABC had the most stable funding base of any media company in the country.<<From: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-26/abc-news-cuts-ita-buttrose-letter-communications-minister/12395280
My immediate response to the PM’s comment is “of course. Because they are the emergency broadcaster I’d damn well hope they have a stable funding base”
They’ve just sacked the head of emergency broadcasting.
So are we at war with China yet?
NSW Labor MP Shaoquett Moselmane’s home, office raided by police
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-26/nsw-labor-mp-shaoquett-moselmane-home-raided-by-police/12395712
OK I’m having a shower then going to purchase the ingredients for tomorrow’s apple pie making.
And some booze for FNDC.
ABC to cut national head of emergency broadcasting position despite bushfires success
Link opens Guardian newspaper article.
I’ve encountered a new initialism. HOM = horny on main.
You seen this SM.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-20/keeping-alive-the-history-of-hobarts-art-nouveau-mountain-huts/12335222
Bubblecar said:
OK I’m having a shower then going to purchase the ingredients for tomorrow’s apple pie making.And some booze for FNDC.
Don’t forget to get those black things that go in apple pies.
Just ask the grocer, he’ll know what you mean.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
OK I’m having a shower then going to purchase the ingredients for tomorrow’s apple pie making.And some booze for FNDC.
Don’t forget to get those black things that go in apple pies.
Just ask the grocer, he’ll know what you mean.
olives?
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
OK I’m having a shower then going to purchase the ingredients for tomorrow’s apple pie making.And some booze for FNDC.
Don’t forget to get those black things that go in apple pies.
Just ask the grocer, he’ll know what you mean.
Yeah. Them bits that get stuck in ya teeth.
Peak Warming Man said:
You seen this SM.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-20/keeping-alive-the-history-of-hobarts-art-nouveau-mountain-huts/12335222
Yep. I thought I had posted it. Although I am sure the one I posted had Captain cook’s axe in it…
Woodie said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
OK I’m having a shower then going to purchase the ingredients for tomorrow’s apple pie making.And some booze for FNDC.
Don’t forget to get those black things that go in apple pies.
Just ask the grocer, he’ll know what you mean.
Yeah. Them bits that get stuck in ya teeth.
That’s them.
Which one is more likely to be correct? Cheryl or Sheryl?
Speedy said:
Which one is more likely to be correct? Cheryl or Sheryl?
just use shazza and you can’t go wrong.
JudgeMental said:
Speedy said:
Which one is more likely to be correct? Cheryl or Sheryl?
just use shazza and you can’t go wrong.
Nah, Shazza is Sharon when her mother wants her to know she’s done wrong.
I know people with both spellings. It’s whatever the parent put down for the birth certificate.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Looks like that’s it, you can no longer click to go back to the old format as of today.
Well it’s no better than the old format that worked just fine.
And where did the ABC find the money to change something that didn’t need changing except to give a contract to some IT mob that drink at the same pub in Ultimo.
It’s not right.
Well if it’s not worse than the old format they deserve congratulations for doing a bloody good job, and probably achieving a first in the history of computing.
Which reminds me, this new Edge thing has apparently decided I want to spell like a Merkin.
Anyone know how to fix that?
I don’t.
buffy said:
JudgeMental said:
Speedy said:
Which one is more likely to be correct? Cheryl or Sheryl?
just use shazza and you can’t go wrong.
Nah, Shazza is Sharon when her mother wants her to know she’s done wrong.
I know people with both spellings. It’s whatever the parent put down for the birth certificate.
chezza then.
I bought a mini submersible pump with a solar patch on a “lily pad”. Just for fun. The Winter sun isn’t really strong enough, but it does actually work.
JudgeMental said:
buffy said:
JudgeMental said:just use shazza and you can’t go wrong.
Nah, Shazza is Sharon when her mother wants her to know she’s done wrong.
I know people with both spellings. It’s whatever the parent put down for the birth certificate.
chezza then.
One of my Cheryls answers to Cherry. If that helps.
buffy said:
JudgeMental said:
Speedy said:
Which one is more likely to be correct? Cheryl or Sheryl?
just use shazza and you can’t go wrong.
Nah, Shazza is Sharon when her mother wants her to know she’s done wrong.
I know people with both spellings. It’s whatever the parent put down for the birth certificate.
I used to always spell it Cheryl, but have seen more Sheryls around lately. I just sent my text to Sheryl and am guessing she’ll respond with a casual correction if I’m wrong.
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Looks like that’s it, you can no longer click to go back to the old format as of today.
Well it’s no better than the old format that worked just fine.
And where did the ABC find the money to change something that didn’t need changing except to give a contract to some IT mob that drink at the same pub in Ultimo.
It’s not right.
Well if it’s not worse than the old format they deserve congratulations for doing a bloody good job, and probably achieving a first in the history of computing.
Which reminds me, this new Edge thing has apparently decided I want to spell like a Merkin.
Anyone know how to fix that?
I don’t.
click on the three dots top right. settings. languages. do it there.
JudgeMental said:
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Well if it’s not worse than the old format they deserve congratulations for doing a bloody good job, and probably achieving a first in the history of computing.
Which reminds me, this new Edge thing has apparently decided I want to spell like a Merkin.
Anyone know how to fix that?
I don’t.
click on the three dots top right. settings. languages. do it there.
and i don’t even. use edge.
JudgeMental said:
JudgeMental said:
Michael V said:I don’t.
click on the three dots top right. settings. languages. do it there.
and i don’t even. use edge.
maybe I’m just an edgelord.
Back, and relaxing with a chilled sauv blanc and a little bowl of crisps (sour cream & onion).
So I’d better call an early FNDC.
Dinner tonight will be a slab of salmon served with a mountain of greens.
buffy said:
I bought a mini submersible pump with a solar patch on a “lily pad”. Just for fun. The Winter sun isn’t really strong enough, but it does actually work.
Looks a relaxing feature.
NSW Labor MP Shaoquett Moselmane is being questioned at his Parliament office after the Australian Federal Police (AFP) and ASIO raided his home and office in Sydney this morning.
NSW Labor leader Jodi McKay confirmed she was aware of the raids, and that the party would suspend Mr Moselmane’s membership.
Ms McKay described reports that Mr Moselmane’s office had allegedly been infiltrated by Chinese government agents as “dreadfully concerning”.
———————————-
Dear oh dear.
Mini Me got an award from school, the LEAF award. Learning, effort, attendance and following rules.
Divine Angel said:
Mini Me got an award from school, the LEAF award. Learning, effort, attendance and following rules.
You’re a good mother.
buffy said:
I bought a mini submersible pump with a solar patch on a “lily pad”. Just for fun. The Winter sun isn’t really strong enough, but it does actually work.
me – see this mini solar pump fountain thing…oah
lady – that’s cute
wouldn’t mind one of them
Peak Warming Man said:
Divine Angel said:
Mini Me got an award from school, the LEAF award. Learning, effort, attendance and following rules.
You’re a good mother.
Yeah right. She’s only an angel at school. If her teachers saw what she’s really like, they’d call a priest and hang a crucifix at the door.
Divine Angel said:
Mini Me got an award from school, the LEAF award. Learning, effort, attendance and following rules.
Splendid.
Was she upset about not being invited to that party?
Bubblecar said:
Divine Angel said:
Mini Me got an award from school, the LEAF award. Learning, effort, attendance and following rules.
Splendid.
Was she upset about not being invited to that party?
She hasn’t said anything about it.
transition said:
buffy said:
I bought a mini submersible pump with a solar patch on a “lily pad”. Just for fun. The Winter sun isn’t really strong enough, but it does actually work.
me – see this mini solar pump fountain thing…oah
lady – that’s cutewouldn’t mind one of them
Apparently they have sold out:
https://www.innovations.com.au/p/outdoor/solar-powered/lily-solar-lily-fountain
(I really did buy it on a whim. But I don’t drink alcohol and I don’t smoke, so I figure I can occasionally go for a folly)
transition said:
buffy said:
I bought a mini submersible pump with a solar patch on a “lily pad”. Just for fun. The Winter sun isn’t really strong enough, but it does actually work.
me – see this mini solar pump fountain thing…oah
lady – that’s cutewouldn’t mind one of them
I was thinking so too. Until I thought that the dog would use it and the snakes and wobblies would use it too.
sarahs mum said:
transition said:
buffy said:
I bought a mini submersible pump with a solar patch on a “lily pad”. Just for fun. The Winter sun isn’t really strong enough, but it does actually work.
me – see this mini solar pump fountain thing…oah
lady – that’s cutewouldn’t mind one of them
I was thinking so too. Until I thought that the dog would use it and the snakes and wobblies would use it too.
Bruna hasn’t seen it yet. Right now the sky has clouded over, so it’s not working anyway. Mr buffy has gone in to Hamilton to use the pool for his rehab exercises, so the gates are open. Can’t let Bruna out the front at the moment.
I’d love a pond feature. But it would just breed cane toads.
Divine Angel said:
Bubblecar said:
Divine Angel said:
Mini Me got an award from school, the LEAF award. Learning, effort, attendance and following rules.
Splendid.
Was she upset about not being invited to that party?
She hasn’t said anything about it.
My boy got the STFU award.
dv said:
Divine Angel said:
Bubblecar said:Splendid.
Was she upset about not being invited to that party?
She hasn’t said anything about it.
My boy got the STFU award.
How old is Deevs Jr now?
Divine Angel said:
dv said:
Divine Angel said:She hasn’t said anything about it.
My boy got the STFU award.
How old is Deevs Jr now?
12 tomoz
dv said:
Divine Angel said:
dv said:My boy got the STFU award.
How old is Deevs Jr now?
12 tomoz
Raises glass to the boy’s birthday tomorrow
dv said:
Divine Angel said:
dv said:My boy got the STFU award.
How old is Deevs Jr now?
12 tomoz
Have you sat him down for a father and son talk to explain to him the facts about….chess?
buffy said:
transition said:
buffy said:
I bought a mini submersible pump with a solar patch on a “lily pad”. Just for fun. The Winter sun isn’t really strong enough, but it does actually work.
me – see this mini solar pump fountain thing…oah
lady – that’s cutewouldn’t mind one of them
Apparently they have sold out:
https://www.innovations.com.au/p/outdoor/solar-powered/lily-solar-lily-fountain
(I really did buy it on a whim. But I don’t drink alcohol and I don’t smoke, so I figure I can occasionally go for a folly)
$55 here (cheapest I could find).
https://www.cetsolar.com/lillysolarfountain.htm
Neophyte said:
dv said:
Divine Angel said:How old is Deevs Jr now?
12 tomoz
Have you sat him down for a father and son talk to explain to him the facts about….chess?
“So listen, son, so if you learn about this, and study really well, you will never need to worry about girls ever again…”
:-)
https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/it-hasn-t-taken-scott-morrison-long-to-start-playing-friends-and-enemies-20200623-p555am.html
Fri Jun 26 1.9 °C to 13.4 °C. Wonder why I was sweating all day then?
Doubt I was working very hard.
roughbarked said:
Fri Jun 26 1.9 °C to 13.4 °C. Wonder why I was sweating all day then?
Doubt I was working very hard.
From what I can remember you said you don’t have a boat, yeah?
Sheryl was a Cheryl :)
Speedy said:
Sheryl was a Cheryl :)
Did she vow to exact retribution for your egregious misuse of her name?
roughbarked said:
Fri Jun 26 1.9 °C to 13.4 °C. Wonder why I was sweating all day then?
Doubt I was working very hard.
Remember – even the slightest of symptoms, get tested.
Peak Warming Man said:
roughbarked said:
Fri Jun 26 1.9 °C to 13.4 °C. Wonder why I was sweating all day then?
Doubt I was working very hard.
From what I can remember you said you don’t have a boat, yeah?
Landlubber me.
Speedy said:
Sheryl was a Cheryl :)
phew
Glad that’s sorted…
;)
Early dinner tonight. Salmon already treated to a good shake of lemon pepper, wrapped in puff pastry with fresh dill and ovened.
Brocolli, Brussels, green capsicum & onion to accompany, with butter and lemon juice.
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Fri Jun 26 1.9 °C to 13.4 °C. Wonder why I was sweating all day then?
Doubt I was working very hard.
Remember – even the slightest of symptoms, get tested.
Nah. It is more because I was cleaning up in the sun at first and then moving several logs out of the way, a rainwater tank and trailer, carrying batteries and Aluminium collection to take to recycler and then mowing the waist waist high grass about 50m x 10m today. Stopped because that’s all the fuel I had.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
roughbarked said:
Fri Jun 26 1.9 °C to 13.4 °C. Wonder why I was sweating all day then?
Doubt I was working very hard.
Remember – even the slightest of symptoms, get tested.
Nah. It is more because I was cleaning up in the sun at first and then moving several logs out of the way, a rainwater tank and trailer, carrying batteries and Aluminium collection to take to recycler and then mowing the waist waist high grass about 50m x 10m today. Stopped because that’s all the fuel I had.
I think, prior to this moment, I didn’t know how Shirl Strachan’s last name was spelt.
dv said:
I think, prior to this moment, I didn’t know how Shirl Strachan’s last name was spelt.
You’ve been living in the 70s.
dv said:
I think, prior to this moment, I didn’t know how Shirl Strachan’s last name was spelt.
There was an influential Melbourne optometrist by the name of John Strachan. He lectured to us when I was training. His son, Greg, was an AFL (might have still been VFL then) footballer and also an optometrist. I did reception for Greg on Saturday mornings when I was a student. So I’ve known that surname for a long time. Although probably I learnt it with Shirl.
Gosh – Greg even has a Wikipedia entry.
Speedy said:
Sheryl was a Cheryl :)
Isn’t that from a Lou Reed song?
Back from Gundaroo.
Had a good rest.
Reading a book – Creation: Artists, Gods and Origins. 2007 by Peter Conrad
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Creation-Artists-Gods-and-Origins-/283754652593?_trksid=p2349526.m4383.l4275.c10#viTabs_0
Throughout history artists, writers and musicians – ‘creative’ people – have tried to outdo God or the Gods in the acts of creation. This extraordinarily wide-ranging study traces the different concepts of creation in Western civilization, following the struggle between man and god for the right to create, and even the right to create gods. Along the way it becomes what is in essence a new history of Western civilization, a series of thirty-three chapters brimming with ideas, insights and erudition. It touches upon religion, art and artistry, alchemy, mystical traditions, opera, film, literature, linguistics, psychoanalysis, psychology and physics, among many other things, exploring what it means to create, as well as the popular myths of creation from every conceivable angle. The result is a breathtaking overview of man’s uncrushable impulse to create, and his endless rivalry with the gods.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Back from Gundaroo.Had a good rest.
Reading a book – Creation: Artists, Gods and Origins. 2007 by Peter Conrad
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Creation-Artists-Gods-and-Origins-/283754652593?_trksid=p2349526.m4383.l4275.c10#viTabs_0
Throughout history artists, writers and musicians – ‘creative’ people – have tried to outdo God or the Gods in the acts of creation. This extraordinarily wide-ranging study traces the different concepts of creation in Western civilization, following the struggle between man and god for the right to create, and even the right to create gods. Along the way it becomes what is in essence a new history of Western civilization, a series of thirty-three chapters brimming with ideas, insights and erudition. It touches upon religion, art and artistry, alchemy, mystical traditions, opera, film, literature, linguistics, psychoanalysis, psychology and physics, among many other things, exploring what it means to create, as well as the popular myths of creation from every conceivable angle. The result is a breathtaking overview of man’s uncrushable impulse to create, and his endless rivalry with the gods.
Is that the Pete Conrad who was commander of Apollo 12?
Hey Tau, good to read you again. Hope you’re well.
captain_spalding said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Back from Gundaroo.Had a good rest.
Reading a book – Creation: Artists, Gods and Origins. 2007 by Peter Conrad
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Creation-Artists-Gods-and-Origins-/283754652593?_trksid=p2349526.m4383.l4275.c10#viTabs_0
Throughout history artists, writers and musicians – ‘creative’ people – have tried to outdo God or the Gods in the acts of creation. This extraordinarily wide-ranging study traces the different concepts of creation in Western civilization, following the struggle between man and god for the right to create, and even the right to create gods. Along the way it becomes what is in essence a new history of Western civilization, a series of thirty-three chapters brimming with ideas, insights and erudition. It touches upon religion, art and artistry, alchemy, mystical traditions, opera, film, literature, linguistics, psychoanalysis, psychology and physics, among many other things, exploring what it means to create, as well as the popular myths of creation from every conceivable angle. The result is a breathtaking overview of man’s uncrushable impulse to create, and his endless rivalry with the gods.
Is that the Pete Conrad who was commander of Apollo 12?
Considering the book was published 8 years after his death, I’m gonna say there’s a high probability it’s not.
Divine Angel said:
Hey Tau, good to read you again. Hope you’re well.
OH, Yeah!
Hi, Tau!
Where you been?
Commented Wed/Thu on your absence.
captain_spalding said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Back from Gundaroo.Had a good rest.
Reading a book – Creation: Artists, Gods and Origins. 2007 by Peter Conrad
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Creation-Artists-Gods-and-Origins-/283754652593?_trksid=p2349526.m4383.l4275.c10#viTabs_0
Throughout history artists, writers and musicians – ‘creative’ people – have tried to outdo God or the Gods in the acts of creation. This extraordinarily wide-ranging study traces the different concepts of creation in Western civilization, following the struggle between man and god for the right to create, and even the right to create gods. Along the way it becomes what is in essence a new history of Western civilization, a series of thirty-three chapters brimming with ideas, insights and erudition. It touches upon religion, art and artistry, alchemy, mystical traditions, opera, film, literature, linguistics, psychoanalysis, psychology and physics, among many other things, exploring what it means to create, as well as the popular myths of creation from every conceivable angle. The result is a breathtaking overview of man’s uncrushable impulse to create, and his endless rivalry with the gods.
Is that the Pete Conrad who was commander of Apollo 12?
Peter Conrad – Author
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Conrad_(academic)
https://www.amazon.com/Peter-Conrad/e/B001HMRWT2/ref=dp_byline_cont_pop_book_1
Divine Angel said:
captain_spalding said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Back from Gundaroo.Had a good rest.
Reading a book – Creation: Artists, Gods and Origins. 2007 by Peter Conrad
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Creation-Artists-Gods-and-Origins-/283754652593?_trksid=p2349526.m4383.l4275.c10#viTabs_0
Throughout history artists, writers and musicians – ‘creative’ people – have tried to outdo God or the Gods in the acts of creation. This extraordinarily wide-ranging study traces the different concepts of creation in Western civilization, following the struggle between man and god for the right to create, and even the right to create gods. Along the way it becomes what is in essence a new history of Western civilization, a series of thirty-three chapters brimming with ideas, insights and erudition. It touches upon religion, art and artistry, alchemy, mystical traditions, opera, film, literature, linguistics, psychoanalysis, psychology and physics, among many other things, exploring what it means to create, as well as the popular myths of creation from every conceivable angle. The result is a breathtaking overview of man’s uncrushable impulse to create, and his endless rivalry with the gods.
Is that the Pete Conrad who was commander of Apollo 12?
Considering the book was published 8 years after his death, I’m gonna say there’s a high probability it’s not.
Medical science can do wonders these days, y’know.
Divine Angel said:
Hey Tau, good to read you again. Hope you’re well.
All Good.
captain_spalding said:
Divine Angel said:
captain_spalding said:Is that the Pete Conrad who was commander of Apollo 12?
Considering the book was published 8 years after his death, I’m gonna say there’s a high probability it’s not.
Medical science can do wonders these days, y’know.
A true ghostwriter.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Divine Angel said:
Hey Tau, good to read you again. Hope you’re well.
All Good.
Welcome back :)
captain_spalding said:
Divine Angel said:
Hey Tau, good to read you again. Hope you’re well.
OH, Yeah!
Hi, Tau!
Where you been?
Commented Wed/Thu on your absence.
Ive been in Gundaroo for the last 12 days
I did leave a message before I departed
Did some more work
Back now
Bubblecar said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Divine Angel said:
Hey Tau, good to read you again. Hope you’re well.
All Good.
Welcome back :)
Thanks
Nothing of interest on offer on TV tonight, so we’ll go SBS on demand and watch Blackfellas. 1993 – Jack Charles and Kelton Pell are going to look young in this one.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackfellas
My dinner was delicious and now it’s time for an hour or so of kip.
captain_spalding said:
Divine Angel said:
Hey Tau, good to read you again. Hope you’re well.
OH, Yeah!
Hi, Tau!
Where you been?
Commented Wed/Thu on your absence.
I think he’s had it lanced.
buffy said:
Nothing of interest on offer on TV tonight, so we’ll go SBS on demand and watch Blackfellas. 1993 – Jack Charles and Kelton Pell are going to look young in this one.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackfellas
Jack Charles was a bit of a lad, bit of a lad.
dv said:
I love Obvious Plant.
Divine Angel said:
Hey Tau, good to read you again. Hope you’re well.
+1
Tau.Neutrino said:
700-km Brazil ‘megaflash’ sets lightning record: UN700 km long lighting flash
Zapped…
… a new world record for the duration of a lightning flash, with a single flash that developed continuously over northern Argentina on March 4, 2019 lasting for a full 16.73 seconds.
The previous record for the longest detected distance for a single lightning flash was 321 kilometers (199 miles), measured on June 20, 2007 in the US state of Oklahoma, WMO said.
The previous duration record was 7.74 seconds, measured on August 30, 2012 in southern France, it said.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
700-km Brazil ‘megaflash’ sets lightning record: UN700 km long lighting flash
Zapped…
… a new world record for the duration of a lightning flash, with a single flash that developed continuously over northern Argentina on March 4, 2019 lasting for a full 16.73 seconds.
The previous record for the longest detected distance for a single lightning flash was 321 kilometers (199 miles), measured on June 20, 2007 in the US state of Oklahoma, WMO said.
The previous duration record was 7.74 seconds, measured on August 30, 2012 in southern France, it said.
What
dv said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
700-km Brazil ‘megaflash’ sets lightning record: UN700 km long lighting flash
Zapped…
… a new world record for the duration of a lightning flash, with a single flash that developed continuously over northern Argentina on March 4, 2019 lasting for a full 16.73 seconds.
The previous record for the longest detected distance for a single lightning flash was 321 kilometers (199 miles), measured on June 20, 2007 in the US state of Oklahoma, WMO said.
The previous duration record was 7.74 seconds, measured on August 30, 2012 in southern France, it said.
What
Lota watts
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
Nothing of interest on offer on TV tonight, so we’ll go SBS on demand and watch Blackfellas. 1993 – Jack Charles and Kelton Pell are going to look young in this one.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackfellas
Jack Charles was a bit of a lad, bit of a lad.
Which bit?
Tau.Neutrino said:
dv said:
Tau.Neutrino said:… a new world record for the duration of a lightning flash, with a single flash that developed continuously over northern Argentina on March 4, 2019 lasting for a full 16.73 seconds.
The previous record for the longest detected distance for a single lightning flash was 321 kilometers (199 miles), measured on June 20, 2007 in the US state of Oklahoma, WMO said.
The previous duration record was 7.74 seconds, measured on August 30, 2012 in southern France, it said.
What
Lota watts
I wonder which bolt has the record for the most energy ?
Just a heads up to let youse know that nominations are now open for Australian of the year.
You can nominate anyone, anyone at all…………best if it’s someone who’s been through a bit of privation………….someone who’s recovered from wounds………….that sort of thing…………………..maybe leg wounds…………… anyway I thought youse would like to know.
Yours in Anticipation
Peak Warming Man (KBM KBG PMT with bar)
dv said:
Wow!
Thanks for my new exclamation:
‘Throbbing justice!’
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
Wow!
Thanks for my new exclamation:
‘Throbbing justice!’
Sounds like a typo for dildo.
dv said:
I’m Am Throbbing with Justice
maybe they couldn’t decide which one to go with so just went with both ?
:)
Peak Warming Man said:
Just a heads up to let youse know that nominations are now open for Australian of the year.
You can nominate anyone, anyone at all…………best if it’s someone who’s been through a bit of privation………….someone who’s recovered from wounds………….that sort of thing…………………..maybe leg wounds…………… anyway I thought youse would like to know.Yours in Anticipation
Peak Warming Man (KBM KBG PMT with bar)
And obviously your stellar work with PeterT Ministries.
Divine Angel said:
Mini Me got an award from school, the LEAF award. Learning, effort, attendance and following rules.
And you say she’s a terror. Shows what you know! :-)
Divine Angel said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Just a heads up to let youse know that nominations are now open for Australian of the year.
You can nominate anyone, anyone at all…………best if it’s someone who’s been through a bit of privation………….someone who’s recovered from wounds………….that sort of thing…………………..maybe leg wounds…………… anyway I thought youse would like to know.Yours in Anticipation
Peak Warming Man (KBM KBG PMT with bar)
And obviously your stellar work with PeterT Ministries.
Donate much to the L/NP?
Witty Rejoinder said:
Divine Angel said:
Mini Me got an award from school, the LEAF award. Learning, effort, attendance and following rules.
And you say she’s a terror. Shows what you know! :-)
We had a LEAF award in one of my former workplaces.
Persons who was keenest to knock off: Leaves Early As F***.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Divine Angel said:
Mini Me got an award from school, the LEAF award. Learning, effort, attendance and following rules.
And you say she’s a terror. Shows what you know! :-)
No one believes me!
Divine Angel said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Divine Angel said:
Mini Me got an award from school, the LEAF award. Learning, effort, attendance and following rules.
And you say she’s a terror. Shows what you know! :-)
No one believes me!
That’s what Robert Thorn said.
Mmmm..butter chicken, rogan josh, saffron rice. Forget the veggies for tonight!
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
Nothing of interest on offer on TV tonight, so we’ll go SBS on demand and watch Blackfellas. 1993 – Jack Charles and Kelton Pell are going to look young in this one.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackfellas
Jack Charles was a bit of a lad, bit of a lad.
I read his autobiography recently.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
dv said:What
Lota watts
I wonder which bolt has the record for the most energy ?
what you sayin’
Do we have any Tech Talk people here? I’m trying to buy a laptop but I think the Dell man is not being entirely honest with me.
Speedy said:
Do we have any Tech Talk people here? I’m trying to buy a laptop but I think the Dell man is not being entirely honest with me.
So for those who know more than me, is the new i5 processor “so much faster” than the old one?
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/compare.html?productIds=68316,195436
Speedy said:
Do we have any Tech Talk people here? I’m trying to buy a laptop but I think the Dell man is not being entirely honest with me.
Dell is a good trusted brand.
Speedy said:
Speedy said:
Do we have any Tech Talk people here? I’m trying to buy a laptop but I think the Dell man is not being entirely honest with me.
So for those who know more than me, is the new i5 processor “so much faster” than the old one?
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/compare.html?productIds=68316,195436
Yes, current i5s are zippy.
let’s be honest hardly anything is faster these days…
Tau.Neutrino said:
Speedy said:
Do we have any Tech Talk people here? I’m trying to buy a laptop but I think the Dell man is not being entirely honest with me.
Dell is a good trusted brand.
Yes. We have had only Dells since about 2002 when we started our own business. Usually we buy the Precision laptops but I had trouble with my last desktop, trying to get dual monitors to work. Dell was not very helpful then.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Speedy said:
Speedy said:
Do we have any Tech Talk people here? I’m trying to buy a laptop but I think the Dell man is not being entirely honest with me.
So for those who know more than me, is the new i5 processor “so much faster” than the old one?
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/compare.html?productIds=68316,195436
Yes, current i5s are zippy.
How do you think it compares to the old one on the chart?
I have a dell Inspiron 1525 from 2008
Still going after 12 years.
Tau.Neutrino said:
I have a dell Inspiron 1525 from 2008Still going after 12 years.
Fantastic!
We get 4 years out of our laptops on average, though we still have an old Precision M70 from about 2006. The Precision M90 died just after its warranty expired.
This new laptop is to replace my desktop and I’m currently looking at a Latitude 5510 with a 1TB SSD and the i5 processor that was on that link.
Speedy said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Speedy said:So for those who know more than me, is the new i5 processor “so much faster” than the old one?
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/compare.html?productIds=68316,195436
Yes, current i5s are zippy.
How do you think it compares to the old one on the chart?
For a comparison, cpu bench mark is the place to go.
Here they are here at cpu bench mark, scroll down a bit for charts.
Intel Core i5-10210U @ 1.60GHz
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-10210U+%40+1.60GHz&id=3542
Intel Core i5-3470 @ 3.20GHz
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-3470+%40+3.20GHz&id=822
Tau.Neutrino said:
Speedy said:
Tau.Neutrino said:Yes, current i5s are zippy.
How do you think it compares to the old one on the chart?
For a comparison, cpu bench mark is the place to go.
Here they are here at cpu bench mark, scroll down a bit for charts.
Intel Core i5-10210U @ 1.60GHz
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-10210U+%40+1.60GHz&id=3542Intel Core i5-3470 @ 3.20GHz
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-3470+%40+3.20GHz&id=822
Thanks Tau, but this still does not tell me whether the laptop will perform any better than my old desktop. The numbers make no sense :)
Tau.Neutrino said:
Speedy said:
Tau.Neutrino said:Yes, current i5s are zippy.
How do you think it compares to the old one on the chart?
For a comparison, cpu bench mark is the place to go.
Here they are here at cpu bench mark, scroll down a bit for charts.
Intel Core i5-10210U @ 1.60GHz
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-10210U+%40+1.60GHz&id=3542Intel Core i5-3470 @ 3.20GHz
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-3470+%40+3.20GHz&id=822
Intel Core i5-3470 scores 4,660
Intel Core i5-10210U scores 6,520
average cpu test
so the Intel Core i5-10210U is faster
Tau.Neutrino said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Speedy said:How do you think it compares to the old one on the chart?
For a comparison, cpu bench mark is the place to go.
Here they are here at cpu bench mark, scroll down a bit for charts.
Intel Core i5-10210U @ 1.60GHz
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-10210U+%40+1.60GHz&id=3542Intel Core i5-3470 @ 3.20GHz
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-3470+%40+3.20GHz&id=822
Intel Core i5-3470 scores 4,660
Intel Core i5-10210U scores 6,520average cpu test
so the Intel Core i5-10210U is faster
Thanks! :)
Speedy said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Speedy said:How do you think it compares to the old one on the chart?
For a comparison, cpu bench mark is the place to go.
Here they are here at cpu bench mark, scroll down a bit for charts.
Intel Core i5-10210U @ 1.60GHz
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-10210U+%40+1.60GHz&id=3542Intel Core i5-3470 @ 3.20GHz
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-3470+%40+3.20GHz&id=822
Thanks Tau, but this still does not tell me whether the laptop will perform any better than my old desktop. The numbers make no sense :)
Intel Core i5-3470 scores 4,660
Intel Core i5-10210U scores 6,520
average cpu test
The Intel Core i5-10210U is faster than the 3470
Put your old desktop processor in and see what number it has,
if the number is lower its performance is lower.
Unless you are performing very intensive CPU processing, then you will not notice a difference. The SSD will be the main contributing factor to the responsiveness of the computer.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Speedy said:
Tau.Neutrino said:For a comparison, cpu bench mark is the place to go.
Here they are here at cpu bench mark, scroll down a bit for charts.
Intel Core i5-10210U @ 1.60GHz
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-10210U+%40+1.60GHz&id=3542Intel Core i5-3470 @ 3.20GHz
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-3470+%40+3.20GHz&id=822
Thanks Tau, but this still does not tell me whether the laptop will perform any better than my old desktop. The numbers make no sense :)
Intel Core i5-3470 scores 4,660
Intel Core i5-10210U scores 6,520average cpu test
The Intel Core i5-10210U is faster than the 3470
Put your old desktop processor in and see what number it has,
if the number is lower its performance is lower.
The old desktop processor is the i5-3470.
fsm said:
Unless you are performing very intensive CPU processing, then you will not notice a difference. The SSD will be the main contributing factor to the responsiveness of the computer.
That’s what Dell man said, but I didn’t believe him. Thanks :)
Speedy said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Speedy said:Thanks Tau, but this still does not tell me whether the laptop will perform any better than my old desktop. The numbers make no sense :)
Intel Core i5-3470 scores 4,660
Intel Core i5-10210U scores 6,520average cpu test
The Intel Core i5-10210U is faster than the 3470
Put your old desktop processor in and see what number it has,
if the number is lower its performance is lower.
The old desktop processor is the i5-3470.
ok. A desktop
One way to speed it up would be to add two drives (or more) in raid configuration if the mother board supports it.
Raid drives allow windows to read and write from and to memory to 2 drives or more simultaneously (up to 8 drives I think) speeding things up that way.
Tip, always keep a normal configured drive around just in case.
All i5 processors are fast. Some are more fasterer than others. The bottleneck is not the CPU, but the things attached to the CPU eg: Mechanical hard disk drives, network connections, etc.
An SSD will alleviate many computer speed/response problems. But the CPU and SSD do not have any affect on external connection speeds eg: the internet, downloading images from your camera, etc. Many people consider their computer to be slow when the problem is actually somewhere else.
Tau.Neutrino said:
Speedy said:
Tau.Neutrino said:Intel Core i5-3470 scores 4,660
Intel Core i5-10210U scores 6,520average cpu test
The Intel Core i5-10210U is faster than the 3470
Put your old desktop processor in and see what number it has,
if the number is lower its performance is lower.
The old desktop processor is the i5-3470.
ok. A desktop
One way to speed it up would be to add two drives (or more) in raid configuration if the mother board supports it.
Raid drives allow windows to read and write from and to memory to 2 drives or more simultaneously (up to 8 drives I think) speeding things up that way.
Tip, always keep a normal configured drive around just in case.
I don’t actually have a problem with the speed of my desktop. The problem is that it is not portable and we have had some glorious sunny days here recently, with a couple of outdoor areas that are very inviting (with power and tables and chairs and umbrellas), and an indoor dining area with a very nice view of bushland that I am unable to use. It is coming up to end of financial year also, so not a bad time to make a change. I’ve never owned a laptop before.
fsm said:
All i5 processors are fast. Some are more fasterer than others. The bottleneck is not the CPU, but the things attached to the CPU eg: Mechanical hard disk drives, network connections, etc.An SSD will alleviate many computer speed/response problems. But the CPU and SSD do not have any affect on external connection speeds eg: the internet, downloading images from your camera, etc. Many people consider their computer to be slow when the problem is actually somewhere else.
Thanks fsm. I don’t use my desktop for anything that’s too challenging for it, so I think I’ll be content with the laptop processor that has been suggested.
Speedy said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Speedy said:The old desktop processor is the i5-3470.
ok. A desktop
One way to speed it up would be to add two drives (or more) in raid configuration if the mother board supports it.
Raid drives allow windows to read and write from and to memory to 2 drives or more simultaneously (up to 8 drives I think) speeding things up that way.
Tip, always keep a normal configured drive around just in case.
I don’t actually have a problem with the speed of my desktop. The problem is that it is not portable and we have had some glorious sunny days here recently, with a couple of outdoor areas that are very inviting (with power and tables and chairs and umbrellas), and an indoor dining area with a very nice view of bushland that I am unable to use. It is coming up to end of financial year also, so not a bad time to make a change. I’ve never owned a laptop before.
Id grab a second battery if you use it a lot, charge one up and take it out and charge up the other one
or get a separate charger for it if you can.
fsm said:
Unless you are performing very intensive CPU processing, then you will not notice a difference. The SSD will be the main contributing factor to the responsiveness of the computer.
IWFSM.
The speed you perceive will be the result of faster SSD, RAM, and GPU.
Leather carry bags for laptops will make them last longer.
Good for the charger, bluetooth mouse, second battery etc
Tau.Neutrino said:
Speedy said:
Tau.Neutrino said:ok. A desktop
One way to speed it up would be to add two drives (or more) in raid configuration if the mother board supports it.
Raid drives allow windows to read and write from and to memory to 2 drives or more simultaneously (up to 8 drives I think) speeding things up that way.
Tip, always keep a normal configured drive around just in case.
I don’t actually have a problem with the speed of my desktop. The problem is that it is not portable and we have had some glorious sunny days here recently, with a couple of outdoor areas that are very inviting (with power and tables and chairs and umbrellas), and an indoor dining area with a very nice view of bushland that I am unable to use. It is coming up to end of financial year also, so not a bad time to make a change. I’ve never owned a laptop before.
Id grab a second battery if you use it a lot, charge one up and take it out and charge up the other one
or get a separate charger for it if you can.
Good point.
Rule 303 said:
fsm said:
Unless you are performing very intensive CPU processing, then you will not notice a difference. The SSD will be the main contributing factor to the responsiveness of the computer.
IWFSM.
The speed you perceive will be the result of faster SSD, RAM, and GPU.
I’m not buying a separate graphics card for it. The RAM will be 16GB vs 8GB on the old desktop, and the old desktop had its old graphics card removed following the issues with the dueal monitors that I mentioned earlier.
If the laptop has a touchscreen then you should invest in a microfibre cloth.
fsm said:
If the laptop has a touchscreen then you should invest in a microfibre cloth.
No touchscreens!

Speedy said:
I’m not buying a separate graphics card for it. The RAM will be 16GB vs 8GB on the old desktop, and the old desktop had its old graphics card removed following the issues with the dueal monitors that I mentioned earlier.
Any i5 with 16GB RAM and an SSD will be stupid fast anyway that you use it!
fsm said:
Speedy said:
I’m not buying a separate graphics card for it. The RAM will be 16GB vs 8GB on the old desktop, and the old desktop had its old graphics card removed following the issues with the dueal monitors that I mentioned earlier.
Any i5 with 16GB RAM and an SSD will be stupid fast anyway that you use it!
I’ve got an i7.
Goes off looking smug.
fsm said:
Speedy said:
I’m not buying a separate graphics card for it. The RAM will be 16GB vs 8GB on the old desktop, and the old desktop had its old graphics card removed following the issues with the dueal monitors that I mentioned earlier.
Any i5 with 16GB RAM and an SSD will be stupid fast anyway that you use it!
Excellent! I will call Dell man back on Monday morning and place an order then.
Speedy said:
fsm said:
Speedy said:
I’m not buying a separate graphics card for it. The RAM will be 16GB vs 8GB on the old desktop, and the old desktop had its old graphics card removed following the issues with the dueal monitors that I mentioned earlier.
Any i5 with 16GB RAM and an SSD will be stupid fast anyway that you use it!
Excellent! I will call Dell man back on Monday morning and place an order then.
:)
The Rev Dodgson said:
fsm said:
Speedy said:
I’m not buying a separate graphics card for it. The RAM will be 16GB vs 8GB on the old desktop, and the old desktop had its old graphics card removed following the issues with the dueal monitors that I mentioned earlier.
Any i5 with 16GB RAM and an SSD will be stupid fast anyway that you use it!
I’ve got an i7.
Goes off looking smug.
:) The boys each have laptops with i7 processors and it’s funny to see the difference in their approach with helping me with this. Speedy Jnr is adamant that I should just use his old Surface Pro 4 instead, as he seems quite concerned that I may just land a laptop better that his. Little Speedy doesn’t care either way and has been genuinely helpful.
Tau.Neutrino said:
captain_spalding said:
Divine Angel said:
Hey Tau, good to read you again. Hope you’re well.
OH, Yeah!
Hi, Tau!
Where you been?
Commented Wed/Thu on your absence.
Ive been in Gundaroo for the last 12 days
I did leave a message before I departed
Did some more work
Back now
So is your family in Gundaroo?
roughbarked said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
captain_spalding said:OH, Yeah!
Hi, Tau!
Where you been?
Commented Wed/Thu on your absence.
Ive been in Gundaroo for the last 12 days
I did leave a message before I departed
Did some more work
Back now
So is your family in Gundaroo?
2 sisters and 2 brothers
All in Ballarat execpt one sister in Gundaroo
The Rev Dodgson said:
fsm said:
Speedy said:
I’m not buying a separate graphics card for it. The RAM will be 16GB vs 8GB on the old desktop, and the old desktop had its old graphics card removed following the issues with the dueal monitors that I mentioned earlier.
Any i5 with 16GB RAM and an SSD will be stupid fast anyway that you use it!
I’ve got an i7.
Goes off looking smug.
You feel smug about using Edge. Just sayin’… :-)
Hey CN. Good to see you back. How come you don’t forum when you’re away?
Tau.Neutrino said:
roughbarked said:
Tau.Neutrino said:Ive been in Gundaroo for the last 12 days
I did leave a message before I departed
Did some more work
Back now
So is your family in Gundaroo?
2 sisters and 2 brothers
All in Ballarat execpt one sister in Gundaroo
I drove through the outskirts of Ballarat last weekend. That’s becoming a very big town.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Hey CN. Good to see you back. How come you don’t forum when you’re away?
I could have if I remembered my laptop.
I’ll take it next time, Ill put a year of data on its sim.
sibeen said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
roughbarked said:So is your family in Gundaroo?
2 sisters and 2 brothers
All in Ballarat execpt one sister in Gundaroo
I drove through the outskirts of Ballarat last weekend. That’s becoming a very big town.
Yes. It is growing.
Witty Rejoinder said:
You feel smug about using Edge. Just sayin’… :-)
The new Microsoft Edge is based on Chromium and for many people will be a better choice than Google Chrome. Microsoft have finally done something right in the browser world.
Speedy said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
fsm said:Any i5 with 16GB RAM and an SSD will be stupid fast anyway that you use it!
I’ve got an i7.
Goes off looking smug.
:) The boys each have laptops with i7 processors and it’s funny to see the difference in their approach with helping me with this. Speedy Jnr is adamant that I should just use his old Surface Pro 4 instead, as he seems quite concerned that I may just land a laptop better that his. Little Speedy doesn’t care either way and has been genuinely helpful.
:)
Kids ay?
I should add that for most purposes the i7 and 8 cores is not noticeably faster than the previous lap-top with an i5 and 4 cores.
Witty Rejoinder said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
fsm said:Any i5 with 16GB RAM and an SSD will be stupid fast anyway that you use it!
I’ve got an i7.
Goes off looking smug.
You feel smug about using Edge. Just sayin’… :-)
Actually the new Edge is bloody fast :)
The Rev Dodgson said:
Speedy said:
The Rev Dodgson said:I’ve got an i7.
Goes off looking smug.
:) The boys each have laptops with i7 processors and it’s funny to see the difference in their approach with helping me with this. Speedy Jnr is adamant that I should just use his old Surface Pro 4 instead, as he seems quite concerned that I may just land a laptop better that his. Little Speedy doesn’t care either way and has been genuinely helpful.
:)
Kids ay?
I should add that for most purposes the i7 and 8 cores is not noticeably faster than the previous lap-top with an i5 and 4 cores.
Not much good for calculating the weight of the universe then.
fsm said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
You feel smug about using Edge. Just sayin’… :-)
The new Microsoft Edge is based on Chromium and for many people will be a better choice than Google Chrome. Microsoft have finally done something right in the browser world.
So what is this Chromium thing of which you speak?
Has anybody called FNDC to order?
>Holds up dark purple stuff inna glass<
Cheers, ‘rona survivors.
Say cheese!
Next time you catch the bus.
PermeateFree said:
Say cheese!
Smoked cheese.
The Rev Dodgson said:
fsm said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
You feel smug about using Edge. Just sayin’… :-)
The new Microsoft Edge is based on Chromium and for many people will be a better choice than Google Chrome. Microsoft have finally done something right in the browser world.
So what is this Chromium thing of which you speak?
Google Chrome web browser and Microsoft Edge web browser are both based on the open source browser called Chromium. Microsoft have removed the Google stuff and added some extra security stuff (and Bing search engine (which can be changed to Google search engine (or other search engine) if you wish)). The old Edge and Internet Explorer are now dead.
Careful, you could take someone’s eye out throwing stones.
fsm said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
fsm said:The new Microsoft Edge is based on Chromium and for many people will be a better choice than Google Chrome. Microsoft have finally done something right in the browser world.
So what is this Chromium thing of which you speak?
Google Chrome web browser and Microsoft Edge web browser are both based on the open source browser called Chromium. Microsoft have removed the Google stuff and added some extra security stuff (and Bing search engine (which can be changed to Google search engine (or other search engine) if you wish)). The old Edge and Internet Explorer are now dead.
IE is not dead, it’s resting.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
The Rev Dodgson said:I’ve got an i7.
Goes off looking smug.
You feel smug about using Edge. Just sayin’… :-)
Actually the new Edge is bloody fast :)
OK, I’m just using it now. It seems to have brought across all my links etc over from chrome.
Peak Warming Man said:
fsm said:
The Rev Dodgson said:So what is this Chromium thing of which you speak?
Google Chrome web browser and Microsoft Edge web browser are both based on the open source browser called Chromium. Microsoft have removed the Google stuff and added some extra security stuff (and Bing search engine (which can be changed to Google search engine (or other search engine) if you wish)). The old Edge and Internet Explorer are now dead.
IE is not dead, it’s resting.
If you want to escape the Google biosphere then the new Edge is probably the best way out at the moment.
Peak Warming Man said:
fsm said:
The Rev Dodgson said:So what is this Chromium thing of which you speak?
Google Chrome web browser and Microsoft Edge web browser are both based on the open source browser called Chromium. Microsoft have removed the Google stuff and added some extra security stuff (and Bing search engine (which can be changed to Google search engine (or other search engine) if you wish)). The old Edge and Internet Explorer are now dead.
IE is not dead, it’s resting.
Resting in peace
fsm said:
Peak Warming Man said:
fsm said:Google Chrome web browser and Microsoft Edge web browser are both based on the open source browser called Chromium. Microsoft have removed the Google stuff and added some extra security stuff (and Bing search engine (which can be changed to Google search engine (or other search engine) if you wish)). The old Edge and Internet Explorer are now dead.
IE is not dead, it’s resting.
If you want to escape the Google biosphere then the new Edge is probably the best way out at the moment.
It does feel to be a bit faster. Saying that I think I’ll stick with what I know and love…Netscape.
Rule 303 said:
Has anybody called FNDC to order?>Holds up dark purple stuff inna glass<
Cheers, ‘rona survivors.
Cheers.
sibeen said:
fsm said:
Peak Warming Man said:IE is not dead, it’s resting.
If you want to escape the Google biosphere then the new Edge is probably the best way out at the moment.
It does feel to be a bit faster. Saying that I think I’ll stick with what I know and love…Netscape.
You actually made me laugh out loud!
fsm said:
sibeen said:
fsm said:If you want to escape the Google biosphere then the new Edge is probably the best way out at the moment.
It does feel to be a bit faster. Saying that I think I’ll stick with what I know and love…Netscape.
You actually made me laugh out loud!
:)
What’s the best ad blocker to use with edge then?
sibeen said:
fsm said:
sibeen said:It does feel to be a bit faster. Saying that I think I’ll stick with what I know and love…Netscape.
You actually made me laugh out loud!
:)
What’s the best ad blocker to use with edge then?
Best Ad Blockers for Microsoft Edge in 2020
https://www.windowscentral.com/best-adblockers-microsoft-edge
Covid Beach
sibeen said:
fsm said:
sibeen said:It does feel to be a bit faster. Saying that I think I’ll stick with what I know and love…Netscape.
You actually made me laugh out loud!
:)
What’s the best ad blocker to use with edge then?
That question is very subjective. But you could try Adblock form Microsoft.
fsm said:
sibeen said:
fsm said:You actually made me laugh out loud!
:)
What’s the best ad blocker to use with edge then?
That question is very subjective. But you could try Adblock form Microsoft.
ta
fsm said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
fsm said:The new Microsoft Edge is based on Chromium and for many people will be a better choice than Google Chrome. Microsoft have finally done something right in the browser world.
So what is this Chromium thing of which you speak?
Google Chrome web browser and Microsoft Edge web browser are both based on the open source browser called Chromium. Microsoft have removed the Google stuff and added some extra security stuff (and Bing search engine (which can be changed to Google search engine (or other search engine) if you wish)). The old Edge and Internet Explorer are now dead.
Thanks fsm.
Seems a bit odd Microsoft using Google software to write a program in competition with one of Google’s core products, but it seems to work OK.
But it’s just a browser anyway :)
Tau.Neutrino said:
roughbarked said:
Tau.Neutrino said:Ive been in Gundaroo for the last 12 days
I did leave a message before I departed
Did some more work
Back now
So is your family in Gundaroo?
2 sisters and 2 brothers
All in Ballarat execpt one sister in Gundaroo
Are you in Ballarat too?
ABC News:
‘Melbourne Storm hand out 50-6 NRL thumping to struggling Warriors’

Are we all watching the live spacewalk?
https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?v=692741321574855
Rule 303 said:
Are we all watching the live spacewalk?https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?v=692741321574855
Hasn’t it been done like about a billion times by now.
The Rev Dodgson said:
fsm said:
The Rev Dodgson said:So what is this Chromium thing of which you speak?
Google Chrome web browser and Microsoft Edge web browser are both based on the open source browser called Chromium. Microsoft have removed the Google stuff and added some extra security stuff (and Bing search engine (which can be changed to Google search engine (or other search engine) if you wish)). The old Edge and Internet Explorer are now dead.
Thanks fsm.
Seems a bit odd Microsoft using Google software to write a program in competition with one of Google’s core products, but it seems to work OK.
But it’s just a browser anyway :)
Why Microsoft embraced Chromium, and what the new Edge says about the state of web browsers…
https://www.geekwire.com/2020/microsoft-embraced-chromium-new-edge-says-state-web-browsers/
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
Are we all watching the live spacewalk?https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?v=692741321574855
Hasn’t it been done like about a billion times by now.
every one is different.
Rule 303 said:
Are we all watching the live spacewalk?https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?v=692741321574855
https://www.nasa.gov/nasalive
This guy belongs in the trees
https://i.imgur.com/TDwpl03.mp4
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
Are we all watching the live spacewalk?https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?v=692741321574855
Hasn’t it been done like about a billion times by now.
Still haven’t got Facebook, mate?
roughbarked said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
roughbarked said:So is your family in Gundaroo?
2 sisters and 2 brothers
All in Ballarat execpt one sister in Gundaroo
Are you in Ballarat too?
No, a bit further north in Creswick.
I just saw a picture of the Disappearing Tarn go past on my Facebook. There was at least 80 people in the photo. Some were swimming.
Why are the astronauts on the ISS wearing belts in their shorts when gravity is not trying to pull their pants down?
https://www.nasa.gov/nasalive
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
Are we all watching the live spacewalk?https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?v=692741321574855
Hasn’t it been done like about a billion times by now.
JudgeMental said:
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
Are we all watching the live spacewalk?https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?v=692741321574855
Hasn’t it been done like about a billion times by now.
every one is different.
Each spacewalk
Is different
From any before it
Each spacewalk
Is different
It is now.
fsm said:
Why are the astronauts on the ISS wearing belts in their shorts when gravity is not trying to pull their pants down?https://www.nasa.gov/nasalive
5.11 probably make them wear the belt as part of the supply contract.
(guess)
Rule 303 said:
fsm said:
Why are the astronauts on the ISS wearing belts in their shorts when gravity is not trying to pull their pants down?https://www.nasa.gov/nasalive
5.11 probably make them wear the belt as part of the supply contract.
(guess)
Should mention, they have elastic auto-adjusting waistbands in the crease at the top of the front pockets. If they’re not hooking gear to the belt, it’s just for looks.
sarahs mum said:
I just saw a picture of the Disappearing Tarn go past on my Facebook. There was at least 80 people in the photo. Some were swimming.
Mad craze people swimming in Tasmania in winter, don’t make eye contact.
fsm said:
Why are the astronauts on the ISS wearing belts in their shorts when gravity is not trying to pull their pants down?https://www.nasa.gov/nasalive
The belt didn’t stop the astronaut from spending five minutes pulling his pants up. The carabina on his belt loop is the most interesting thing so far.
Rule 303 said:
fsm said:
Why are the astronauts on the ISS wearing belts in their shorts when gravity is not trying to pull their pants down?https://www.nasa.gov/nasalive
5.11 probably make them wear the belt as part of the supply contract.
(guess)
Well, I hope they have decent belt buckles…
fsm said:
Rule 303 said:
fsm said:
Why are the astronauts on the ISS wearing belts in their shorts when gravity is not trying to pull their pants down?https://www.nasa.gov/nasalive
5.11 probably make them wear the belt as part of the supply contract.
(guess)
Well, I hope they have decent belt buckles…
I reckon!
Well, buffy’s choice of movie was a bit depressing. We watched Blackfellas. Also seems odd seeing Kelton Pell in a role where he is irresponsible. We’ve seen him more in roles in his mature years.

buffy said:
Well, buffy’s choice of movie was a bit depressing. We watched Blackfellas. Also seems odd seeing Kelton Pell in a role where he is irresponsible. We’ve seen him more in roles in his mature years.
Im watching ‘the Best of Me.’ It’s being okay.
I’ll peep in occasionally but now I’m returning to my book in the living room.
Bubblecar said:
I’ll peep in occasionally but now I’m returning to my book in the living room.
Whatcha reading?
Speedy said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
Speedy said:The old desktop processor is the i5-3470.
ok. A desktop
One way to speed it up would be to add two drives (or more) in raid configuration if the mother board supports it.
Raid drives allow windows to read and write from and to memory to 2 drives or more simultaneously (up to 8 drives I think) speeding things up that way.
Tip, always keep a normal configured drive around just in case.
I don’t actually have a problem with the speed of my desktop. The problem is that it is not portable and we have had some glorious sunny days here recently, with a couple of outdoor areas that are very inviting (with power and tables and chairs and umbrellas), and an indoor dining area with a very nice view of bushland that I am unable to use. It is coming up to end of financial year also, so not a bad time to make a change. I’ve never owned a laptop before.
If you are used to using a keyboard, how will you go with a lappy keyboard? I find the different hand positions annoying. I have a wireless keyboard and mouse combo to go with the lappy if I am going to be typing to the forum a lot or something.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Bubblecar said:
I’ll peep in occasionally but now I’m returning to my book in the living room.
Whatcha reading?
Short story The Yellow Sign from The King in Yellow by Robert Chambers, 1895.
Speedy said:
The belt didn’t stop the astronaut from spending five minutes pulling his pants up. The carabina on his belt loop is the most interesting thing so far.
That’s known as a BRT (Body Restraint Tether).
buffy said:
Speedy said:
Tau.Neutrino said:ok. A desktop
One way to speed it up would be to add two drives (or more) in raid configuration if the mother board supports it.
Raid drives allow windows to read and write from and to memory to 2 drives or more simultaneously (up to 8 drives I think) speeding things up that way.
Tip, always keep a normal configured drive around just in case.
I don’t actually have a problem with the speed of my desktop. The problem is that it is not portable and we have had some glorious sunny days here recently, with a couple of outdoor areas that are very inviting (with power and tables and chairs and umbrellas), and an indoor dining area with a very nice view of bushland that I am unable to use. It is coming up to end of financial year also, so not a bad time to make a change. I’ve never owned a laptop before.
If you are used to using a keyboard, how will you go with a lappy keyboard? I find the different hand positions annoying. I have a wireless keyboard and mouse combo to go with the lappy if I am going to be typing to the forum a lot or something.
I’m sure I’ll get used to it, but if not, I will still have my desktop or can use the wireless keyboard thingy I use for the desktop now. I still like to use a wired mouse though, as the weight of the batteries in a wireless mouse annoys me, as does the fact that they are always flat. Speaking of which, I should check the number of ports on the Latitude laptop.
Appreciation
https://i.imgur.com/BBy5C5O.mp4
Speedy said:
buffy said:
Speedy said:I don’t actually have a problem with the speed of my desktop. The problem is that it is not portable and we have had some glorious sunny days here recently, with a couple of outdoor areas that are very inviting (with power and tables and chairs and umbrellas), and an indoor dining area with a very nice view of bushland that I am unable to use. It is coming up to end of financial year also, so not a bad time to make a change. I’ve never owned a laptop before.
If you are used to using a keyboard, how will you go with a lappy keyboard? I find the different hand positions annoying. I have a wireless keyboard and mouse combo to go with the lappy if I am going to be typing to the forum a lot or something.
I’m sure I’ll get used to it, but if not, I will still have my desktop or can use the wireless keyboard thingy I use for the desktop now. I still like to use a wired mouse though, as the weight of the batteries in a wireless mouse annoys me, as does the fact that they are always flat. Speaking of which, I should check the number of ports on the Latitude laptop.
3 x USBs and 1 x USB Type C. That should be more than enough to do everything I need it to do, even if I need to use the the wireless keyboard thingy and a wired mouse in a separate port..
Speedy said:
buffy said:
Speedy said:I don’t actually have a problem with the speed of my desktop. The problem is that it is not portable and we have had some glorious sunny days here recently, with a couple of outdoor areas that are very inviting (with power and tables and chairs and umbrellas), and an indoor dining area with a very nice view of bushland that I am unable to use. It is coming up to end of financial year also, so not a bad time to make a change. I’ve never owned a laptop before.
If you are used to using a keyboard, how will you go with a lappy keyboard? I find the different hand positions annoying. I have a wireless keyboard and mouse combo to go with the lappy if I am going to be typing to the forum a lot or something.
I’m sure I’ll get used to it, but if not, I will still have my desktop or can use the wireless keyboard thingy I use for the desktop now. I still like to use a wired mouse though, as the weight of the batteries in a wireless mouse annoys me, as does the fact that they are always flat. Speaking of which, I should check the number of ports on the Latitude laptop.
The mouse thing is interesting. I prefer a wireless mouse. But I like the slightly heavier one. On this computer I’m presently using a little red Logitech which is very twitchy. I really should get out the slightly heavier one that I can control better. Might do that tomorrow, actually.
Speedy said:
buffy said:
Speedy said:I don’t actually have a problem with the speed of my desktop. The problem is that it is not portable and we have had some glorious sunny days here recently, with a couple of outdoor areas that are very inviting (with power and tables and chairs and umbrellas), and an indoor dining area with a very nice view of bushland that I am unable to use. It is coming up to end of financial year also, so not a bad time to make a change. I’ve never owned a laptop before.
If you are used to using a keyboard, how will you go with a lappy keyboard? I find the different hand positions annoying. I have a wireless keyboard and mouse combo to go with the lappy if I am going to be typing to the forum a lot or something.
I’m sure I’ll get used to it, but if not, I will still have my desktop or can use the wireless keyboard thingy I use for the desktop now. I still like to use a wired mouse though, as the weight of the batteries in a wireless mouse annoys me, as does the fact that they are always flat. Speaking of which, I should check the number of ports on the Latitude laptop.
I have a foldable mouse to use with my laptop. These are very light and unmouselike…
https://www.microsoft.com/accessories/en-us/products/mice/arc-touch-mouse/rvf-00052
fsm said:
Speedy said:
buffy said:If you are used to using a keyboard, how will you go with a lappy keyboard? I find the different hand positions annoying. I have a wireless keyboard and mouse combo to go with the lappy if I am going to be typing to the forum a lot or something.
I’m sure I’ll get used to it, but if not, I will still have my desktop or can use the wireless keyboard thingy I use for the desktop now. I still like to use a wired mouse though, as the weight of the batteries in a wireless mouse annoys me, as does the fact that they are always flat. Speaking of which, I should check the number of ports on the Latitude laptop.
I have a foldable mouse to use with my laptop. These are very light and unmouselike…
https://www.microsoft.com/accessories/en-us/products/mice/arc-touch-mouse/rvf-00052
Ooh, that looks interesting. I know very little about Inside the Black Box, but I know what I like the feel of for keyboards and mouse.
buffy said:
Speedy said:
buffy said:If you are used to using a keyboard, how will you go with a lappy keyboard? I find the different hand positions annoying. I have a wireless keyboard and mouse combo to go with the lappy if I am going to be typing to the forum a lot or something.
I’m sure I’ll get used to it, but if not, I will still have my desktop or can use the wireless keyboard thingy I use for the desktop now. I still like to use a wired mouse though, as the weight of the batteries in a wireless mouse annoys me, as does the fact that they are always flat. Speaking of which, I should check the number of ports on the Latitude laptop.
The mouse thing is interesting. I prefer a wireless mouse. But I like the slightly heavier one. On this computer I’m presently using a little red Logitech which is very twitchy. I really should get out the slightly heavier one that I can control better. Might do that tomorrow, actually.
I just had a closer look at the mouse I’m using. It is a Dell branded one, but mysteriously has a white label underneath with the name “Hannah” written on it in biro. I have no idea who Hannah is, unless it was the surname of someone I once worked with. All I know is that this mouse must be an old one that has likely risen from the depths of the spare computer stuff drawer.
fsm said:
Speedy said:
buffy said:If you are used to using a keyboard, how will you go with a lappy keyboard? I find the different hand positions annoying. I have a wireless keyboard and mouse combo to go with the lappy if I am going to be typing to the forum a lot or something.
I’m sure I’ll get used to it, but if not, I will still have my desktop or can use the wireless keyboard thingy I use for the desktop now. I still like to use a wired mouse though, as the weight of the batteries in a wireless mouse annoys me, as does the fact that they are always flat. Speaking of which, I should check the number of ports on the Latitude laptop.
I have a foldable mouse to use with my laptop. These are very light and unmouselike…
https://www.microsoft.com/accessories/en-us/products/mice/arc-touch-mouse/rvf-00052
I like the look of that :)
buffy said:
fsm said:
Speedy said:I’m sure I’ll get used to it, but if not, I will still have my desktop or can use the wireless keyboard thingy I use for the desktop now. I still like to use a wired mouse though, as the weight of the batteries in a wireless mouse annoys me, as does the fact that they are always flat. Speaking of which, I should check the number of ports on the Latitude laptop.
I have a foldable mouse to use with my laptop. These are very light and unmouselike…
https://www.microsoft.com/accessories/en-us/products/mice/arc-touch-mouse/rvf-00052
Ooh, that looks interesting. I know very little about Inside the Black Box, but I know what I like the feel of for keyboards and mouse.
They are great for traveling as it folds flat. When you need it, just crick its back and you’re sweet to go.
Oh dear, Collingwood got beaten. That’s…disappointing.
sibeen said:
Oh dear, Collingwood got beaten. That’s…disappointing.
Did you see Howe’s knee go? Holy fuck. He’s done.
:-(
fsm said:
buffy said:
fsm said:I have a foldable mouse to use with my laptop. These are very light and unmouselike…
https://www.microsoft.com/accessories/en-us/products/mice/arc-touch-mouse/rvf-00052
Ooh, that looks interesting. I know very little about Inside the Black Box, but I know what I like the feel of for keyboards and mouse.
They are great for traveling as it folds flat. When you need it, just crick its back and you’re sweet to go.
$120 is well exxy, tho.
sibeen said:
Oh dear, Collingwood got beaten. That’s…disappointing.
By two points, Beeny Boy. The only way to beat Collingwood. One point would have been better, but I’m happy to settle for two point LOSERS!!!!.
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:
Oh dear, Collingwood got beaten. That’s…disappointing.
Did you see Howe’s knee go? Holy fuck. He’s done.
:-(
I said “OUCH” at the time.
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:
Oh dear, Collingwood got beaten. That’s…disappointing.
Did you see Howe’s knee go? Holy fuck. He’s done.
:-(
I did miss that bit.
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:
Oh dear, Collingwood got beaten. That’s…disappointing.
Did you see Howe’s knee go? Holy fuck. He’s done.
:-(
I did miss that bit.
DO NOT scroll down unless you’re ready to see a knee joint getting torn to pieces.
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:Did you see Howe’s knee go? Holy fuck. He’s done.
:-(
I did miss that bit.
DO NOT scroll down unless you’re ready to see a knee joint getting torn to pieces.
His knee probably feels a bit like mine does.
sarahs mum said:
buffy said:
Well, buffy’s choice of movie was a bit depressing. We watched Blackfellas. Also seems odd seeing Kelton Pell in a role where he is irresponsible. We’ve seen him more in roles in his mature years.Im watching ‘the Best of Me.’ It’s being okay.
I didn’t like that ending. That was just wrong.
sibeen said:
His knee probably feels a bit like mine does.
What’s wrong with yours?
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:
His knee probably feels a bit like mine does.
What’s wrong with yours?
Arthfuckingritis.
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:
His knee probably feels a bit like mine does.
What’s wrong with yours?
Arthfuckingritis.
Bugger.
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:What’s wrong with yours?
Arthfuckingritis.
Bugger.
Yep :)
The Debussy string quartet now on Classic FM, sublime piece.
should have brought trusty windows HP with me, i’m not ready for this other business
Hello.
monkey skipper said:
Hello.
peers over glasses
Shouldn’t you be in bed, young lady?
:)
monkey skipper said:
Hello.
*waves
Well the wine’s all gone but I’m pleasantly plastered, so what more could one decently ask?
There’ll be a little supper once I’ve decided what to serve.
> so what more could one decently ask?
One could ask for a grand old house on the shore of a beautiful lake, surrounded by dark and twiggety woods.
sibeen said:
monkey skipper said:
Hello.
peers over glasses
Shouldn’t you be in bed, young lady?
:)
I am and on my computer at the same time!
sarahs mum said:
monkey skipper said:
Hello.
*waves
hey sm!
monkey skipper said:
sibeen said:
monkey skipper said:
Hello.
peers over glasses
Shouldn’t you be in bed, young lady?
:)
I am and on my computer at the same time!
Luxury.
Bubblecar said:
> so what more could one decently ask?One could ask for a grand old house on the shore of a beautiful lake, surrounded by dark and twiggety woods.
And one could further ask for joyful immortality, for oneself, one’s loved ones and all the good people in all the worlds where life is normally a fleeting peep.
Bubblecar said:
> so what more could one decently ask?One could ask for a grand old house on the shore of a beautiful lake, surrounded by dark and twiggety woods.
Would be a bugger to keep clean.
Bubblecar said:
Well the wine’s all gone but I’m pleasantly plastered, so what more could one decently ask?There’ll be a little supper once I’ve decided what to serve.
Iced coffee with an overload of valhalla chocolate icecream. Perhaps it is iced moccha. Don’t care. It’s good.
dv said:
Bubblecar said:
> so what more could one decently ask?One could ask for a grand old house on the shore of a beautiful lake, surrounded by dark and twiggety woods.
Would be a bugger to keep clean.
You’d have one of those automatic hoovers. That would sort you out, and keep the mice down at the same time .
dv said:
Bubblecar said:
> so what more could one decently ask?One could ask for a grand old house on the shore of a beautiful lake, surrounded by dark and twiggety woods.
Would be a bugger to keep clean.
Enthusiastic and well-treated servants, but they’d have their own fine cottage at some distance from the main property.
I don’t like the idea of live-in servants.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Well the wine’s all gone but I’m pleasantly plastered, so what more could one decently ask?There’ll be a little supper once I’ve decided what to serve.
Iced coffee with an overload of valhalla chocolate icecream. Perhaps it is iced moccha. Don’t care. It’s good.
I et some yoghurt with berry syrup and some slice banana not too bad.
Bubblecar said:
> so what more could one decently ask?One could ask for a grand old house on the shore of a beautiful lake, surrounded by dark and twiggety woods.
That would be decent. Could there be a walled garden with glass house and cloches and a longborder of perennials…and.. and ..a gardener?
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Bubblecar said:
> so what more could one decently ask?One could ask for a grand old house on the shore of a beautiful lake, surrounded by dark and twiggety woods.
Would be a bugger to keep clean.
Enthusiastic and well-treated servants, but they’d have their own fine cottage at some distance from the main property.
I don’t like the idea of live-in servants.
When I lived in Mosman the lady that behind our yard had a home with maid’s accommodation as a separate dwelling at the rear of the property. The house had iron lacework and was heritage listed some timearound the time of the bi-centenary.
That neighbour had grown up in the house herself and was probably in her 80’s at that time.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Well the wine’s all gone but I’m pleasantly plastered, so what more could one decently ask?There’ll be a little supper once I’ve decided what to serve.
Iced coffee with an overload of valhalla chocolate icecream. Perhaps it is iced moccha. Don’t care. It’s good.
That sounds a pleasant sweet treat.
But I’m in a savoury mood so I’ll probably just grill or bake another little eye fillet steak. With a few mushrooms.
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Bubblecar said:
> so what more could one decently ask?One could ask for a grand old house on the shore of a beautiful lake, surrounded by dark and twiggety woods.
Would be a bugger to keep clean.
Enthusiastic and well-treated servants, but they’d have their own fine cottage at some distance from the main property.
I don’t like the idea of live-in servants.
In the gate house and the carriage house.
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
> so what more could one decently ask?One could ask for a grand old house on the shore of a beautiful lake, surrounded by dark and twiggety woods.
That would be decent. Could there be a walled garden with glass house and cloches and a longborder of perennials…and.. and ..a gardener?
There would be a gardening family with their own cottage. And they’d be wholeheartedly devoted to maintaining the beauty of the grounds and the vegetable and herb gardens and orchards.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Well the wine’s all gone but I’m pleasantly plastered, so what more could one decently ask?There’ll be a little supper once I’ve decided what to serve.
Iced coffee with an overload of valhalla chocolate icecream. Perhaps it is iced moccha. Don’t care. It’s good.
That sounds a pleasant sweet treat.
But I’m in a savoury mood so I’ll probably just grill or bake another little eye fillet steak. With a few mushrooms.
It would be very good with a shot of baileys. If you were so inclined.
I might have a savoury snack later.
![]()
Gardeners cottage in West Princess street Garden, Edinburgh.
Making a fine apple (+date, walnut, sultana, vintage cheddar & spices) pie tomorrow, to take to the birthday party on Sunday.
I purchased a bottle of this for my immediately younger sister’s present (she’s a whisky buff) and will also print her a card. She’s now 60 but looks about 45.

sarahs mum said:
Gardeners cottage in West Princess street Garden, Edinburgh.
:)
You need to look after them well.
sarahs mum said:
Gardeners cottage in West Princess street Garden, Edinburgh.

There’s been a stabbing event in Glasgow with some loon killing three people according to press reports.
Within the hour you had tweets from the Brit PM, the Scotch head honcho, and no doubt every other political chancer that owns a phone.
I just find that really pathetic and sad. STFU
Bubblecar said:
Making a fine apple (+date, walnut, sultana, vintage cheddar & spices) pie tomorrow, to take to the birthday party on Sunday.I purchased a bottle of this for my immediately younger sister’s present (she’s a whisky buff) and will also print her a card. She’s now 60 but looks about 45.
She’s a whisky buff and yet you bought her a whiskey. You bastard.
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
Making a fine apple (+date, walnut, sultana, vintage cheddar & spices) pie tomorrow, to take to the birthday party on Sunday.I purchased a bottle of this for my immediately younger sister’s present (she’s a whisky buff) and will also print her a card. She’s now 60 but looks about 45.
She’s a whisky buff and yet you bought her a whiskey. You bastard.
She’ll enjoy it. We’re entering Irish coffee weather.
Goodnight you lot!
monkey skipper said:
Goodnight you lot!
We do have a perfectly good “goodnight” thread for these parting gestures. Just so you know :)
Dads finding the easy way since the beginning of time.
https://i.imgur.com/hI7GEX2.mp4
The news on political issues. You pat my back and I’ll pat yours is actually how most of these so called dodgy ministers get into office. Some may get there due to their gift of the gab but the money comes from supporters who have an agenda. It is no surprise that China wants in on this. It is when one gets caught that the others all feign outrage and innocence.
We have now announced that we have found more ways to appease the money hungry farmer lobbyists who want more and more water from dying river systems.
When what we really need is to stop exporting all our water. If anyone is going to be nationalistic, let it be about keeping our water here and in healthy river systems. We are a smart country, we could find other things to export.
The morning is good and…
Updated at 05:00 EST4.7°C
Feels like 3.4 °C
Dew Point
4.3 °C
Gusts
0km/h
Relative Humidity
97%
Pressure
1027.2hPa
Wind
N 0km/h
Rainfall
0.0mm
Stop drinking coffee and go and do something Peter. Even if you do have to turn lights on for that to happen.
Morning.
Currently 10 degrees, heading for a sunny top of 21.
Some excitement at 2am: our bed broke. Scared the bejesus out of Jellybean. She had been sleeping near my legs but after the break she slept on my pillow.
Then at 4am I dreamed my phone rang, it was George Clinton Skyping me because he was running for mayor of New York.
One of the things I’ve never managed to do, is to break a bed.
Divine Angel said:
Morning.Currently 10 degrees, heading for a sunny top of 21.
Some excitement at 2am: our bed broke. Scared the bejesus out of Jellybean. She had been sleeping near my legs but after the break she slept on my pillow.
Then at 4am I dreamed my phone rang, it was George Clinton Skyping me because he was running for mayor of New York.
2am hanky-panky?
Witty Rejoinder said:
Divine Angel said:
Morning.Currently 10 degrees, heading for a sunny top of 21.
Some excitement at 2am: our bed broke. Scared the bejesus out of Jellybean. She had been sleeping near my legs but after the break she slept on my pillow.
Then at 4am I dreamed my phone rang, it was George Clinton Skyping me because he was running for mayor of New York.
2am hanky-panky?
She’s not telling or she would have said it.
DJT is becoming more incoherent every time he opens his mouth.
He’s totally lost the plot.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Divine Angel said:
Morning.Currently 10 degrees, heading for a sunny top of 21.
Some excitement at 2am: our bed broke. Scared the bejesus out of Jellybean. She had been sleeping near my legs but after the break she slept on my pillow.
Then at 4am I dreamed my phone rang, it was George Clinton Skyping me because he was running for mayor of New York.
2am hanky-panky?
Sif. I was dreaming about visiting my mum’s aunt and uncle.
The middle part of the bed.
Here’s an old document. For those who are interested in old documents.
The artificial clock-maker : a treatise of watch and clock-work, wherein the art of calculating numbers for most sorts of movements is explained to the capacity of the unlearned : also the history of clock-work, both ancient and modern, with other useful matters never before published : Derham, W. (William), 1657-1735 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
Divine Angel said:
The middle part of the bed.
Bunnings?
Good morning Holidayers. We have a zero, with frost. Forecast is for partly cloudy 12.
I’ve been squashed between two dogs in the unheated back room for the past couple of hours. Not feeling cold, but the squashing eventually gets a bit much.
:)
1 x bird’s egg on toast.
Bubblecar said:
1 x bird’s egg on toast.
Now that’s something i haven’t had in a while.
By the way, did you check if it came from Victoria?
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
1 x bird’s egg on toast.
Now that’s something i haven’t had in a while.
By the way, did you check if it came from Victoria?
It’s a local egg.
I’d better have another one as there’s plenty of butter left in the frying pan.
Bubblecar said:
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
1 x bird’s egg on toast.
Now that’s something i haven’t had in a while.
By the way, did you check if it came from Victoria?
It’s a local egg.
I’d better have another one as there’s plenty of butter left in the frying pan.
Divine Angel said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Divine Angel said:
Morning.Currently 10 degrees, heading for a sunny top of 21.
Some excitement at 2am: our bed broke. Scared the bejesus out of Jellybean. She had been sleeping near my legs but after the break she slept on my pillow.
Then at 4am I dreamed my phone rang, it was George Clinton Skyping me because he was running for mayor of New York.
2am hanky-panky?
Sif. I was dreaming about visiting my mum’s aunt and uncle.
Reminds me of the time one of my bed legs broke through the floor, threatening to take the entire bed & me with it.
I dreamt I was in Launceston for some reason, smartly dressed but not wearing any shoes. But I told myself “it’s just a dream, you can magic some shoes upon your feet,” and it worked.
House approves statehood for DC in 232-180 vote
The vote is also largely symbolic, since Senate Republicans oppose D.C. statehood — and are certain to ignore Norton’s bill — while President Trump has promised to veto the proposal if it somehow makes it as far as his desk.
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/504746-house-approves-statehood-for-dc-in-232-180-vote
Bubblecar said:
I dreamt I was in Launceston for some reason, smartly dressed but not wearing any shoes. But I told myself “it’s just a dream, you can magic some shoes upon your feet,” and it worked.
what kind of shoes?
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
roughbarked said:Now that’s something i haven’t had in a while.
By the way, did you check if it came from Victoria?
It’s a local egg.
I’d better have another one as there’s plenty of butter left in the frying pan.
Just had a mug of flat white. The coffee shop is about 3 metres from where I’m staying in Cairns. Very convenient.
Well placed.
dv said:
Bubblecar said:
I dreamt I was in Launceston for some reason, smartly dressed but not wearing any shoes. But I told myself “it’s just a dream, you can magic some shoes upon your feet,” and it worked.
what kind of shoes?
Just shiny black leather lace-ups.
Bubblecar said:
Divine Angel said:
Witty Rejoinder said:2am hanky-panky?
Sif. I was dreaming about visiting my mum’s aunt and uncle.
Reminds me of the time one of my bed legs broke through the floor, threatening to take the entire bed & me with it.
roughbarked said:
Divine Angel said:
The middle part of the bed.
Bunnings?
I’d reckon.
Needs some angle iron. Those mending plates just aren’t up to it.
dv said:
Bubblecar said:
I dreamt I was in Launceston for some reason, smartly dressed but not wearing any shoes. But I told myself “it’s just a dream, you can magic some shoes upon your feet,” and it worked.
what kind of shoes?
Bubblecar said:
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:It’s a local egg.
I’d better have another one as there’s plenty of butter left in the frying pan.
Just had a mug of flat white. The coffee shop is about 3 metres from where I’m staying in Cairns. Very convenient.
Well placed.
Very popular with the hospital staff too.
Tamb said:
dv said:
Bubblecar said:
I dreamt I was in Launceston for some reason, smartly dressed but not wearing any shoes. But I told myself “it’s just a dream, you can magic some shoes upon your feet,” and it worked.
what kind of shoes?
An Abbey Road dream?
Hang on, they’re not mending plates.
They’re some bits of gang-nail plate! Probably building site scraps, i’d bet.
Werl, ya get what ya pay for.
captain_spalding said:
Hang on, they’re not mending plates.They’re some bits of gang-nail plate! Probably building site scraps, i’d bet.
Werl, ya get what ya pay for.
perzackerly.
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
Hang on, they’re not mending plates.They’re some bits of gang-nail plate! Probably building site scraps, i’d bet.
Werl, ya get what ya pay for.
perzackerly.
or, you get your whole sixpenneth worth.
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
Divine Angel said:Sif. I was dreaming about visiting my mum’s aunt and uncle.
Reminds me of the time one of my bed legs broke through the floor, threatening to take the entire bed & me with it.
Happened to us in a pub in the UK.
They did have an excuse. The building was 800 years old.
This house was only about 130 years old (the old cottage) but the floor was well-eaten by borers.
ABC News:
‘‘Outrageous but innocent fun’: Club owners bemoan loss of Gold Coast’s 80s charm’
I remember the Gold Coast in the 80s.
If there was such a thing as ‘ GC charm’ in the 80s, and it was lost, then i suggest that it was lost in transit from the manufacturer to the GC.
It’s probably still wedged down the back of the bench in the factory dispatch office.
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘‘Outrageous but innocent fun’: Club owners bemoan loss of Gold Coast’s 80s charm’
I remember the Gold Coast in the 80s.
If there was such a thing as ‘ GC charm’ in the 80s, and it was lost, then i suggest that it was lost in transit from the manufacturer to the GC.
It’s probably still wedged down the back of the bench in the factory dispatch office.
Do the meter maids still wear gold bikinis?
roughbarked said:
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:‘‘Outrageous but innocent fun’: Club owners bemoan loss of Gold Coast’s 80s charm’
I remember the Gold Coast in the 80s.
If there was such a thing as ‘ GC charm’ in the 80s, and it was lost, then i suggest that it was lost in transit from the manufacturer to the GC.
It’s probably still wedged down the back of the bench in the factory dispatch office.
Do the meter maids still wear gold bikinis?
Yes. But you’re more likely to see a dodo on the streets of Surfers.
They only come out for tourist industry photo opps.
Ho-hum, woman with difficult name blames everyone else:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-27/abc-my-employer-spelled-my-name-wrong-twice-why-it-matters/12384678
My name is frequently misspelt and nearly always mispronounced. Why? Because I live in an English-speaking country and have a Ukrainian name spelt in Polish.
I could change the spelling to phonetic English but I’ve never bothered, so all these “difficulties” are my own fault.
Bubblecar said:
Ho-hum, woman with difficult name blames everyone else:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-27/abc-my-employer-spelled-my-name-wrong-twice-why-it-matters/12384678
My name is frequently misspelt and nearly always mispronounced. Why? Because I live in an English-speaking country and have a Ukrainian name spelt in Polish.
I could change the spelling to phonetic English but I’ve never bothered, so all these “difficulties” are my own fault.
I have an Irish name and it is most often misspelled or mispronounced as well as being mistaken for Scottish. By people of all languages including English.
I worked with a girl named Shirley at picking grapes for an Italian farmer who wrote her name down as Skirli.
according to the BOM, who are da bomb btw, we are to be visited by the two reindeer of the apocalypse today.
Bubblecar said:
Ho-hum, woman with difficult name blames everyone else:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-27/abc-my-employer-spelled-my-name-wrong-twice-why-it-matters/12384678
My name is frequently misspelt and nearly always mispronounced. Why? Because I live in an English-speaking country and have a Ukrainian name spelt in Polish.
I could change the spelling to phonetic English but I’ve never bothered, so all these “difficulties” are my own fault.
JudgeMental said:
according to the BOM, who are da bomb btw, we are to be visited by the two reindeer of the apocalypse today.
Looks like the apocalypse will last a few days.
JudgeMental said:
according to the BOM, who are da bomb btw, we are to be visited by the two reindeer of the apocalypse today.
my name is stephen but everyone pronounces it, boris.
JudgeMental said:
my name is stephen but everyone pronounces it, boris.
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Bubblecar said:
> so what more could one decently ask?One could ask for a grand old house on the shore of a beautiful lake, surrounded by dark and twiggety woods.
Would be a bugger to keep clean.
Enthusiastic and well-treated servants, but they’d have their own fine cottage at some distance from the main property.
I don’t like the idea of live-in servants.
They would never reach your standard of houseworkiness.
Installing a solar-powered torch in the garden yesterday reminded me that all three of the “irish inventions” actually exist.
The
Tamb said:
JudgeMental said:
my name is stephen but everyone pronounces it, boris.
Instead of Stefan?
There’s a song about that:
Her name was Magill,
she called herself Lil,
but Everyone Knew Her as Nancy.
(If you want to see some depressingly stupid discussions, just do a search on that song).
mollwollfumble said:
Installing a solar-powered torch in the garden yesterday reminded me that all three of the “irish inventions” actually exist.The
- solar-powered torch
- ejector seat for helicopters
- spacecraft to the Sun
Ay the very least you didn’t save your own bacon.
https://www.thinkbusiness.ie/articles/10-world-changing-irish-inventions/
roughbarked said:
mollwollfumble said:
Installing a solar-powered torch in the garden yesterday reminded me that all three of the “irish inventions” actually exist.The
- solar-powered torch
- ejector seat for helicopters
- spacecraft to the Sun
Ay the very least you didn’t save your own bacon.
https://www.thinkbusiness.ie/articles/10-world-changing-irish-inventions/
Well we could do without guided torpedos and flavoured chips, but the rest are OK.
The Irish do pretty well in the spheres of maths, science and literature as well.
Bubblecar said:
Ho-hum, woman with difficult name blames everyone else:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-27/abc-my-employer-spelled-my-name-wrong-twice-why-it-matters/12384678
’I could change the spelling to phonetic English…’
Yes, you could, but there’s no real reason why should.
’‘…but I’ve never bothered…’
Fair enough.
…so all these “difficulties” are my own fault.’
No, they’re not your fault. And, they’re not the fault of the people who make the errors, either.
A type of name that they’re unfamiliar with, with spelling (and possibly pronunciation) of a kind that they’ve not encountered before, is likely to confuse some people.
Regrettably, people with names that are novel to a social milieu (hate that word) will find errors made with their names, and learn to live with it.
My own surname could be spelt with any one of four out of five of the vowels in one particular place, but it would sound the same. ‘Misspellings’ are not uncommon. I accept them, correct them where needed, and move on.
The Rev Dodgson said:
roughbarked said:
mollwollfumble said:
Installing a solar-powered torch in the garden yesterday reminded me that all three of the “irish inventions” actually exist.The
- solar-powered torch
- ejector seat for helicopters
- spacecraft to the Sun
Ay the very least you didn’t save your own bacon.
https://www.thinkbusiness.ie/articles/10-world-changing-irish-inventions/
Well we could do without guided torpedos and flavoured chips, but the rest are OK.
The Irish do pretty well in the spheres of maths, science and literature as well.
Brendan Behan comes to mind.
captain_spalding said:
‘Misspellings’ are not uncommon. I accept them, correct them where needed, and move on.
As one does.
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
Ho-hum, woman with difficult name blames everyone else:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-27/abc-my-employer-spelled-my-name-wrong-twice-why-it-matters/12384678
’I could change the spelling to phonetic English…’
Yes, you could, but there’s no real reason why should.
’‘…but I’ve never bothered…’
Fair enough.
…so all these “difficulties” are my own fault.’
No, they’re not your fault. And, they’re not the fault of the people who make the errors, either.
A type of name that they’re unfamiliar with, with spelling (and possibly pronunciation) of a kind that they’ve not encountered before, is likely to confuse some people.
Regrettably, people with names that are novel to a social milieu (hate that word) will find errors made with their names, and learn to live with it.
My own surname could be spelt with any one of four out of five of the vowels in one particular place, but it would sound the same. ‘Misspellings’ are not uncommon. I accept them, correct them where needed, and move on.
What I mean is that the mispronunciations are inevitable given the spelling of my name, so there’s no point feeling hard done by.
Any of y’all know Paul Poynton?
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
Ho-hum, woman with difficult name blames everyone else:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-27/abc-my-employer-spelled-my-name-wrong-twice-why-it-matters/12384678
’I could change the spelling to phonetic English…’
Yes, you could, but there’s no real reason why should.
’‘…but I’ve never bothered…’
Fair enough.
…so all these “difficulties” are my own fault.’
No, they’re not your fault. And, they’re not the fault of the people who make the errors, either.
A type of name that they’re unfamiliar with, with spelling (and possibly pronunciation) of a kind that they’ve not encountered before, is likely to confuse some people.
Regrettably, people with names that are novel to a social milieu (hate that word) will find errors made with their names, and learn to live with it.
My own surname could be spelt with any one of four out of five of the vowels in one particular place, but it would sound the same. ‘Misspellings’ are not uncommon. I accept them, correct them where needed, and move on.
Ejector seat for helicopters.
I’ve seen the video of testing that.
Big CH-53Sea Stallion helicopter. Remote controlled (which is itself pretty impressive).
Flying along, and the rotor blades get blown off by explosives, quickly followed by dummies in ejector seats blasting out of the roof of the cockpit.
Wouldn’t care to be the second bloke out.
dv said:
Any of y’all know Paul Poynton?
Bing knows quite a few of them, but none seem to be of any great fame.
Bubblecar said:
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
Ho-hum, woman with difficult name blames everyone else:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-27/abc-my-employer-spelled-my-name-wrong-twice-why-it-matters/12384678
’I could change the spelling to phonetic English…’
Yes, you could, but there’s no real reason why should.
’‘…but I’ve never bothered…’
Fair enough.
…so all these “difficulties” are my own fault.’
No, they’re not your fault. And, they’re not the fault of the people who make the errors, either.
A type of name that they’re unfamiliar with, with spelling (and possibly pronunciation) of a kind that they’ve not encountered before, is likely to confuse some people.
Regrettably, people with names that are novel to a social milieu (hate that word) will find errors made with their names, and learn to live with it.
My own surname could be spelt with any one of four out of five of the vowels in one particular place, but it would sound the same. ‘Misspellings’ are not uncommon. I accept them, correct them where needed, and move on.
What I mean is that the mispronunciations are inevitable given the spelling of my name, so there’s no point feeling hard done by.
For sure. I have no idea how to pronounce your family name.
Bubblecar suffices.
dv said:
Any of y’all know Paul Poynton?
I don’t.
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
Ho-hum, woman with difficult name blames everyone else:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-27/abc-my-employer-spelled-my-name-wrong-twice-why-it-matters/12384678
’I could change the spelling to phonetic English…’
Yes, you could, but there’s no real reason why should.
’‘…but I’ve never bothered…’
Fair enough.
…so all these “difficulties” are my own fault.’
No, they’re not your fault. And, they’re not the fault of the people who make the errors, either.
A type of name that they’re unfamiliar with, with spelling (and possibly pronunciation) of a kind that they’ve not encountered before, is likely to confuse some people.
Regrettably, people with names that are novel to a social milieu (hate that word) will find errors made with their names, and learn to live with it.
My own surname could be spelt with any one of four out of five of the vowels in one particular place, but it would sound the same. ‘Misspellings’ are not uncommon. I accept them, correct them where needed, and move on.
And then there is a lot of gangplank spelling in the European families who have been here longest. Different arms of the same family can have different spellings of the same name as some corrected and some didn’t.
captain_spalding said:
Ejector seat for helicopters.I’ve seen the video of testing that.
Big CH-53Sea Stallion helicopter. Remote controlled (which is itself pretty impressive).
Flying along, and the rotor blades get blown off by explosives, quickly followed by dummies in ejector seats blasting out of the roof of the cockpit.
Wouldn’t care to be the second bloke out.
B52s had downward facing ejector seats.
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:
captain_spalding said:’I could change the spelling to phonetic English…’
Yes, you could, but there’s no real reason why should.
’‘…but I’ve never bothered…’
Fair enough.
…so all these “difficulties” are my own fault.’
No, they’re not your fault. And, they’re not the fault of the people who make the errors, either.
A type of name that they’re unfamiliar with, with spelling (and possibly pronunciation) of a kind that they’ve not encountered before, is likely to confuse some people.
Regrettably, people with names that are novel to a social milieu (hate that word) will find errors made with their names, and learn to live with it.
My own surname could be spelt with any one of four out of five of the vowels in one particular place, but it would sound the same. ‘Misspellings’ are not uncommon. I accept them, correct them where needed, and move on.
What I mean is that the mispronunciations are inevitable given the spelling of my name, so there’s no point feeling hard done by.
For sure. I have no idea how to pronounce your family name.
Bubblecar suffices.
In my head I hear Bubblecar’s family name basically phonetically, except for the ch ending.
buffy said:
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
Ho-hum, woman with difficult name blames everyone else:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-27/abc-my-employer-spelled-my-name-wrong-twice-why-it-matters/12384678
’I could change the spelling to phonetic English…’
Yes, you could, but there’s no real reason why should.
’‘…but I’ve never bothered…’
Fair enough.
…so all these “difficulties” are my own fault.’
No, they’re not your fault. And, they’re not the fault of the people who make the errors, either.
A type of name that they’re unfamiliar with, with spelling (and possibly pronunciation) of a kind that they’ve not encountered before, is likely to confuse some people.
Regrettably, people with names that are novel to a social milieu (hate that word) will find errors made with their names, and learn to live with it.
My own surname could be spelt with any one of four out of five of the vowels in one particular place, but it would sound the same. ‘Misspellings’ are not uncommon. I accept them, correct them where needed, and move on.
And then there is a lot of gangplank spelling in the European families who have been here longest. Different arms of the same family can have different spellings of the same name as some corrected and some didn’t.
Daziel pron DL
being english we don’t care how you think your name is pronounced…
mollwollfumble said:
Installing a solar-powered torch in the garden yesterday reminded me that all three of the “irish inventions” actually exist.The
- solar-powered torch
- ejector seat for helicopters
- spacecraft to the Sun
dad enthusiatically swapped his solar powered multimeter with my regular battery powered one, former has maybe a gold cap type storage, anyway I can’t emphasise how infuriating it is, the solar powered meter, nearly as frustrating as using this particular brand of not-windows computer, totally unnatural business, feeling like I need a strong sedative, or just smashing it would probably help
some say violence is a bad thing, mostly I do too, but frankly smashing this would be cathartic
transition said:
mollwollfumble said:
Installing a solar-powered torch in the garden yesterday reminded me that all three of the “irish inventions” actually exist.The
- solar-powered torch
- ejector seat for helicopters
- spacecraft to the Sun
dad enthusiatically swapped his solar powered multimeter with my regular battery powered one, former has maybe a gold cap type storage, anyway I can’t emphasise enough how infuriating it is, the solar powered meter, nearly as frustrating as using this particular brand of not-windows computer, totally unnatural business, feeling like I need a strong sedative, or just smashing it would probably help
some say violence is a bad thing, mostly I do too, but frankly smashing this would be cathartic
Tamb said:
captain_spalding said:
Ejector seat for helicopters.I’ve seen the video of testing that.
Big CH-53Sea Stallion helicopter. Remote controlled (which is itself pretty impressive).
Flying along, and the rotor blades get blown off by explosives, quickly followed by dummies in ejector seats blasting out of the roof of the cockpit.
Wouldn’t care to be the second bloke out.
B52s had downward facing ejector seats.
So did the F-104A.
Designers thought it was cool, because it got the pilot clear of the T-shape tail.
Pilots hated the idea. Plus, you couldn’t eject if something disastrous happened while you were still on the ground, or at very low altitude (e.g coming in to land).
Later F-104s had upward seats.
The B-52’s downward seats were for the crew ‘downstairs’. They couldn’t blast up through the cockpit deck above.
captain_spalding said:
Tamb said:
captain_spalding said:
Ejector seat for helicopters.I’ve seen the video of testing that.
Big CH-53Sea Stallion helicopter. Remote controlled (which is itself pretty impressive).
Flying along, and the rotor blades get blown off by explosives, quickly followed by dummies in ejector seats blasting out of the roof of the cockpit.
Wouldn’t care to be the second bloke out.
B52s had downward facing ejector seats.
So did the F-104A.
Designers thought it was cool, because it got the pilot clear of the T-shape tail.
Pilots hated the idea. Plus, you couldn’t eject if something disastrous happened while you were still on the ground, or at very low altitude (e.g coming in to land).
Later F-104s had upward seats.
The B-52’s downward seats were for the crew ‘downstairs’. They couldn’t blast up through the cockpit deck above.
Any side ejectors?
helicopter ejection seats are no good for the passengers.
dv said:
captain_spalding said:
Tamb said:B52s had downward facing ejector seats.
So did the F-104A.
Designers thought it was cool, because it got the pilot clear of the T-shape tail.
Pilots hated the idea. Plus, you couldn’t eject if something disastrous happened while you were still on the ground, or at very low altitude (e.g coming in to land).
Later F-104s had upward seats.
The B-52’s downward seats were for the crew ‘downstairs’. They couldn’t blast up through the cockpit deck above.
Any side ejectors?
dv said:
Any of y’all know Paul Poynton?
Paul, Paul Poynton?
No.
dv said:
Any side ejectors?
The American Cheyenne attack helicopter, which got canned because it was never going to be ready and the cost escalated hugely, was supposed to have them.
The Russian Mil Mi-28
has them.
Downward ejection is also not so well tolerated by human bodies.
buffy said:
Michael V said:
Bubblecar said:What I mean is that the mispronunciations are inevitable given the spelling of my name, so there’s no point feeling hard done by.
For sure. I have no idea how to pronounce your family name.
Bubblecar suffices.
In my head I hear Bubblecar’s family name basically phonetically, except for the ch ending.
What “ch” ending? :)
It has a “ski” ending (actually more like “tski”, as in “Trotsky”).
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:
Michael V said:For sure. I have no idea how to pronounce your family name.
Bubblecar suffices.
In my head I hear Bubblecar’s family name basically phonetically, except for the ch ending.
What “ch” ending? :)
It has a “ski” ending (actually more like “tski”, as in “Trotsky”).
With your name the ending has the accent on the c with a sharp a that tails away, it’s like kah, Bubblekah.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:In my head I hear Bubblecar’s family name basically phonetically, except for the ch ending.
What “ch” ending? :)
It has a “ski” ending (actually more like “tski”, as in “Trotsky”).
With your name the ending has the accent on the c with a sharp a that tails away, it’s like kah, Bubblekah.
like a raven’s call? kah, kah, kaaaaaaaahhh
I was just recalling what i was told about ejection from an aircraft:
the ejection seat will get you out alive. It probably won’t get you out uninjured.
Pretty nearly no-one, except Chuck Yeager, blasts out of an aircraft on top of a rocket and doesn’t suffer some kind of injury from the ride.
Even Yeager got his face burnt by launch rocket fragments after separating from the seat.
captain_spalding said:
I was just recalling what i was told about ejection from an aircraft:the ejection seat will get you out alive. It probably won’t get you out uninjured.
Pretty nearly no-one, except Chuck Yeager, blasts out of an aircraft on top of a rocket and doesn’t suffer some kind of injury from the ride.
Even Yeager got his face burnt by launch rocket fragments after separating from the seat.
He’s damn lucky to be alive.
JudgeMental said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:What “ch” ending? :)
It has a “ski” ending (actually more like “tski”, as in “Trotsky”).
With your name the ending has the accent on the c with a sharp a that tails away, it’s like kah, Bubblekah.
like a raven’s call? kah, kah, kaaaaaaaahhh
Just like that.
Peak Warming Man said:
captain_spalding said:
I was just recalling what i was told about ejection from an aircraft:the ejection seat will get you out alive. It probably won’t get you out uninjured.
Pretty nearly no-one, except Chuck Yeager, blasts out of an aircraft on top of a rocket and doesn’t suffer some kind of injury from the ride.
Even Yeager got his face burnt by launch rocket fragments after separating from the seat.
He’s damn lucky to be alive.
Not many test pilots make it to 97.
captain_spalding said:
I was just recalling what i was told about ejection from an aircraft:the ejection seat will get you out alive. It probably won’t get you out uninjured.
Pretty nearly no-one, except Chuck Yeager, blasts out of an aircraft on top of a rocket and doesn’t suffer some kind of injury from the ride.
Even Yeager got his face burnt by launch rocket fragments after separating from the seat.
James May (of Top Gear fame) tells a story about getting to go for a flight in the back seat of a fighter. They strapped him in his seat and then ran a tape measure over him, after a few curious looks between the ground staff the plane was given the all clear to go for the flight. After the flight he learned that because of his height if he had to eject he would have lost at least his kneecaps if not the whole lower part of his legs on the way out.
party_pants said:
James May (of Top Gear fame) tells a story about getting to go for a flight in the back seat of a fighter. They strapped him in his seat and then ran a tape measure over him, after a few curious looks between the ground staff the plane was given the all clear to go for the flight. After the flight he learned that because of his height if he had to eject he would have lost at least his kneecaps if not the whole lower part of his legs on the way out.
Ejection seats are clever.
They strap you in pretty firmly, but if you have to grab the handle and leave, the restraints instantly and automatically retract and clamp you very firmly indeed back in the seat, including your legs.
Then, it’s out you go.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:In my head I hear Bubblecar’s family name basically phonetically, except for the ch ending.
What “ch” ending? :)
It has a “ski” ending (actually more like “tski”, as in “Trotsky”).
With your name the ending has the accent on the c with a sharp a that tails away, it’s like kah, Bubblekah.
But does “Bubble” rhyme with rubble, or is it more like boob-lay?
Bubblecar said:
captain_spalding said:
Bubblecar said:
Ho-hum, woman with difficult name blames everyone else:https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-27/abc-my-employer-spelled-my-name-wrong-twice-why-it-matters/12384678
’I could change the spelling to phonetic English…’
Yes, you could, but there’s no real reason why should.
’‘…but I’ve never bothered…’
Fair enough.
…so all these “difficulties” are my own fault.’
No, they’re not your fault. And, they’re not the fault of the people who make the errors, either.
A type of name that they’re unfamiliar with, with spelling (and possibly pronunciation) of a kind that they’ve not encountered before, is likely to confuse some people.
Regrettably, people with names that are novel to a social milieu (hate that word) will find errors made with their names, and learn to live with it.
My own surname could be spelt with any one of four out of five of the vowels in one particular place, but it would sound the same. ‘Misspellings’ are not uncommon. I accept them, correct them where needed, and move on.
What I mean is that the mispronunciations are inevitable given the spelling of my name, so there’s no point feeling hard done by.
My surname is pronounced exactly how it is spelled, yet people always mess it up.
Also… I’m child-free For the next 24ish hours.
Divine Angel said:
Bubblecar said:
captain_spalding said:’I could change the spelling to phonetic English…’
Yes, you could, but there’s no real reason why should.
’‘…but I’ve never bothered…’
Fair enough.
…so all these “difficulties” are my own fault.’
No, they’re not your fault. And, they’re not the fault of the people who make the errors, either.
A type of name that they’re unfamiliar with, with spelling (and possibly pronunciation) of a kind that they’ve not encountered before, is likely to confuse some people.
Regrettably, people with names that are novel to a social milieu (hate that word) will find errors made with their names, and learn to live with it.
My own surname could be spelt with any one of four out of five of the vowels in one particular place, but it would sound the same. ‘Misspellings’ are not uncommon. I accept them, correct them where needed, and move on.
What I mean is that the mispronunciations are inevitable given the spelling of my name, so there’s no point feeling hard done by.
My surname is pronounced exactly how it is spelled, yet people always mess it up.
Well Howitzpeld is an unusual surname in Australia.
Tamb said:
dv said:
captain_spalding said:So did the F-104A.
Designers thought it was cool, because it got the pilot clear of the T-shape tail.
Pilots hated the idea. Plus, you couldn’t eject if something disastrous happened while you were still on the ground, or at very low altitude (e.g coming in to land).
Later F-104s had upward seats.
The B-52’s downward seats were for the crew ‘downstairs’. They couldn’t blast up through the cockpit deck above.
Any side ejectors?
F104s were very dangerous aircraft & needed ejector seats way more often then B52s.
I got to sit in a Starfighter at a USAF base in Germany when I was just 11 years old. I remember being told in no uncertain terms not to touch or fiddle with ejector seat lever. I thought I was very cool indeed.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Divine Angel said:
Bubblecar said:What I mean is that the mispronunciations are inevitable given the spelling of my name, so there’s no point feeling hard done by.
My surname is pronounced exactly how it is spelled, yet people always mess it up.
Well Howitzpeld is an unusual surname in Australia.
Or should that be Zactly-Howitzpeld?
Michael V said:
Tamb said:
dv said:Any side ejectors?
F104s were very dangerous aircraft & needed ejector seats way more often then B52s.I got to sit in a Starfighter at a USAF base in Germany when I was just 11 years old. I remember being told in no uncertain terms not to touch or fiddle with ejector seat lever. I thought I was very cool indeed.
Telling a cool 11 year old not to do something seems like asking for trouble :)
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
buffy said:In my head I hear Bubblecar’s family name basically phonetically, except for the ch ending.
What “ch” ending? :)
It has a “ski” ending (actually more like “tski”, as in “Trotsky”).
With your name the ending has the accent on the c with a sharp a that tails away, it’s like kah, Bubblekah.
:)
Michael V said:
Tamb said:
dv said:Any side ejectors?
F104s were very dangerous aircraft & needed ejector seats way more often then B52s.I got to sit in a Starfighter at a USAF base in Germany when I was just 11 years old. I remember being told in no uncertain terms not to touch or fiddle with ejector seat lever. I thought I was very cool indeed.
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:James May (of Top Gear fame) tells a story about getting to go for a flight in the back seat of a fighter. They strapped him in his seat and then ran a tape measure over him, after a few curious looks between the ground staff the plane was given the all clear to go for the flight. After the flight he learned that because of his height if he had to eject he would have lost at least his kneecaps if not the whole lower part of his legs on the way out.
Ejection seats are clever.
They strap you in pretty firmly, but if you have to grab the handle and leave, the restraints instantly and automatically retract and clamp you very firmly indeed back in the seat, including your legs.
Then, it’s out you go.
In which case he might not have “lost” his legs, they would have remained strapped to the seat.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:
Tamb said:F104s were very dangerous aircraft & needed ejector seats way more often then B52s.
I got to sit in a Starfighter at a USAF base in Germany when I was just 11 years old. I remember being told in no uncertain terms not to touch or fiddle with ejector seat lever. I thought I was very cool indeed.
Telling a cool 11 year old not to do something seems like asking for trouble :)
Psychology?
You tell them not to fiddle with the lever.
They’re thus distracted, looking for the lever they were told to not fiddle with, ignoring the middle-of-seat pull-handle or the overhead face-shield/launch pull handle.
Although some earlier seat did have levers to the side.
The Rev Dodgson said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Divine Angel said:My surname is pronounced exactly how it is spelled, yet people always mess it up.
Well Howitzpeld is an unusual surname in Australia.
Or should that be Zactly-Howitzpeld?
Sounds Polish.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:What “ch” ending? :)
It has a “ski” ending (actually more like “tski”, as in “Trotsky”).
With your name the ending has the accent on the c with a sharp a that tails away, it’s like kah, Bubblekah.
But does “Bubble” rhyme with rubble, or is it more like boob-lay?
Surely you know the rule: double consonant follows a short vowel.
Divine Angel said:
Also… I’m child-free For the next 24ish hours.
How’d that happen?
Is she in jail?
In any case, you can play up all you want for the next little while.
:)
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:With your name the ending has the accent on the c with a sharp a that tails away, it’s like kah, Bubblekah.
But does “Bubble” rhyme with rubble, or is it more like boob-lay?
Surely you know the rule: double consonant follows a short vowel.
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Also… I’m child-free For the next 24ish hours.
How’d that happen?
Is she in jail?
In any case, you can play up all you want for the next little while.
:)
Just try not to break the bed…………… again.
Ejection seats are usually pretty safe on the ground.
The Martin-Baker ones i knew had seven safety pins, with bright red ends on them. If any one of those pins was in its place in the seat, it couldn’t fire. One of the checks before flying was that there was seven pins in the little rack on the cockpit side.
Which is not to say that ‘unauthorised’ firings of seats on the ground have not happened.
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Also… I’m child-free For the next 24ish hours.
How’d that happen?
Is she in jail?
In any case, you can play up all you want for the next little while.
:)
I don’t think 5 year olds get thrown in jail, but if I’m wrong I’d love to know how…
Nah, Oma came over to give me some more crap I don’t need or want, and took home my child for a sleepover.
Plans today Now include a nap.
Divine Angel said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Well Howitzpeld is an unusual surname in Australia.
Or should that be Zactly-Howitzpeld?
Sounds Polish.
gilly stephenson is polish.
tossing up whether it’s time for a second breakfast.
JudgeMental said:
tossing up whether it’s time for a second breakfast.
Looks like it’s going to be a cold winter this year.
JudgeMental said:
Divine Angel said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Or should that be Zactly-Howitzpeld?
Sounds Polish.
gilly stephenson is polish.
and some poles go by the name of stobie.
Peak Warming Man said:
JudgeMental said:
tossing up whether it’s time for a second breakfast.
Looks like it’s going to be a cold winter this year.
winter in america is cold…
captain_spalding said:
JudgeMental said:
Divine Angel said:Sounds Polish.
gilly stephenson is polish.
and some poles go by the name of stobie.
wasn’t that a song?
…old stobies I have found, short, but not too big around…
JudgeMental said:
captain_spalding said:
JudgeMental said:gilly stephenson is polish.
and some poles go by the name of stobie.
wasn’t that a song?
…old stobies I have found, short, but not too big around…
Good luck smoking one of them.
captain_spalding said:
JudgeMental said:
captain_spalding said:and some poles go by the name of stobie.
wasn’t that a song?
…old stobies I have found, short, but not too big around…
Good luck smoking one of them.
the gerrys smoked a few 70 odd years ago…
Message to Cricket Australia:
sign this lady up NOW!
https://imgur.com/gallery/Ky004B0
captain_spalding said:
Message to Cricket Australia:sign this lady up NOW!
https://imgur.com/gallery/Ky004B0
:)
And in stilettos as well!
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2020/jun/27/the-simpsons-stops-using-white-actors-to-voice-non-white-characters
My take, that’s stupid.
sibeen said:
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2020/jun/27/the-simpsons-stops-using-white-actors-to-voice-non-white-charactersMy take, that’s stupid.
The logical extension of this will be that only non-white writers can write the dialogue for non-white characters.
captain_spalding said:
sibeen said:
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2020/jun/27/the-simpsons-stops-using-white-actors-to-voice-non-white-charactersMy take, that’s stupid.
The logical extension of this will be that only non-white writers can write the dialogue for non-white characters.
in ten years time we wont realise that things are different to what they were ten years ago.
OK a brief sit-me-down, then it’s heavy duty apple+ pie making.
My standard pie involving apples, dates, walnuts, sultanas, brown sugar, cheddar cheese, butter, cinnamon, nutmeg, cloves.
captain_spalding said:
sibeen said:
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2020/jun/27/the-simpsons-stops-using-white-actors-to-voice-non-white-charactersMy take, that’s stupid.
The logical extension of this will be that only non-white writers can write the dialogue for non-white characters.
Who gets to voice the purple aliens?
JudgeMental said:
captain_spalding said:
sibeen said:
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2020/jun/27/the-simpsons-stops-using-white-actors-to-voice-non-white-charactersMy take, that’s stupid.
The logical extension of this will be that only non-white writers can write the dialogue for non-white characters.
in ten years time we wont realise that things are different to what they were ten years ago.
Don’t try any of your Jedi mind tricks on me.
sibeen said:
captain_spalding said:
sibeen said:
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2020/jun/27/the-simpsons-stops-using-white-actors-to-voice-non-white-charactersMy take, that’s stupid.
The logical extension of this will be that only non-white writers can write the dialogue for non-white characters.
Who gets to voice the purple aliens?
the person who identifies as one.
sibeen said:
captain_spalding said:
sibeen said:
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2020/jun/27/the-simpsons-stops-using-white-actors-to-voice-non-white-charactersMy take, that’s stupid.
The logical extension of this will be that only non-white writers can write the dialogue for non-white characters.
Who gets to voice the purple aliens?
There’s a pop culture show on Radio National called Take This which will explain it all to you.
Neophyte said:
sibeen said:
captain_spalding said:The logical extension of this will be that only non-white writers can write the dialogue for non-white characters.
Who gets to voice the purple aliens?
There’s a pop culture show on Radio National called Take This which will explain it all to you.
i don’t have a radio.
JudgeMental said:
sibeen said:
captain_spalding said:The logical extension of this will be that only non-white writers can write the dialogue for non-white characters.
Who gets to voice the purple aliens?
the person who identifies as one.
What about those idiots who overload on colloidal silver?
Oh, that’s right, they’re blue.
JudgeMental said:
Neophyte said:
sibeen said:Who gets to voice the purple aliens?
There’s a pop culture show on Radio National called Take This which will explain it all to you.
i don’t have a radio.
You could rent one from Radio Rentals.
JudgeMental said:
Neophyte said:
sibeen said:Who gets to voice the purple aliens?
There’s a pop culture show on Radio National called Take This which will explain it all to you.
i don’t have a radio.
I have a radio.
Tau.Neutrino said:
JudgeMental said:
Neophyte said:There’s a pop culture show on Radio National called Take This which will explain it all to you.
i don’t have a radio.
I have a radio.
Yeah, i’ve been wanting to talk to you about that.
My mistake – it’s called Stop Everything.
Hosted by two folk who seem quite woke.
captain_spalding said:
Tau.Neutrino said:
JudgeMental said:i don’t have a radio.
I have a radio.
Yeah, i’ve been wanting to talk to you about that.
It has an antenna that picks up things.
Including purple alien radio messages from space.
Neophyte said:
My mistake – it’s called Stop Everything.Hosted by two folk who seem quite woke.
Are their names Tim and Debbie?
Neophyte said:
My mistake – it’s called Stop Everything.Hosted by two folk who seem quite woke.
I listen to it.
captain_spalding said:
Neophyte said:
My mistake – it’s called Stop Everything.Hosted by two folk who seem quite woke.
Are their names Tim and Debbie?
They are a 21st century equivalent.
Speaking of the wireless Pastor Chuck Swindoll is getting closer to the Lord, getting on a bit, starting to laugh in the wrong places.
They are the sort of folk who would describe The Beatles “She Loves You’ as a group of white cis-male singers with their typically-privileged patriarchal account of an incident, where a vagina-owner’s emotional attitude is being assumed on their behalf…over music and vocal stylings culturally appropriated from POC performers and musicians.
Neophyte said:
They are the sort of folk who would describe The Beatles “She Loves You’ as a group of white cis-male singers with their typically-privileged patriarchal account of an incident, where a vagina-owner’s emotional attitude is being assumed on their behalf…over music and vocal stylings culturally appropriated from POC performers and musicians.
LOL, yes.
Lunch: pancakes with butter and maple syrup.
Neophyte said:
They are the sort of folk who would describe The Beatles “She Loves You’ as a group of white cis-male singers with their typically-privileged patriarchal account of an incident, where a vagina-owner’s emotional attitude is being assumed on their behalf…over music and vocal stylings culturally appropriated from POC performers and musicians.
Yep, very ‘Brainspace’.
Neophyte said:
They are the sort of folk who would describe The Beatles “She Loves You’ as a group of white cis-male singers with their typically-privileged patriarchal account of an incident, where a vagina-owner’s emotional attitude is being assumed on their behalf…over music and vocal stylings culturally appropriated from POC performers and musicians.
ROFL.
Pure gold, Neo :)
Tau.Neutrino said:
captain_spalding said:
Tau.Neutrino said:I have a radio.
Yeah, i’ve been wanting to talk to you about that.
It has an antenna that picks up things.
Including purple alien radio messages from space.
I’ve got my SDR dongle, set it up, and it seems to work.
Local FM radio stations come in quite ok, but i can get nothing else.
I’m blaming the pissy little antenna supplied with the SDR, and i have set of MCX adapter cables coming, to connect to something better.
Do you reckon that’s it, or do i need to tweak the set-up?
sibeen said:
Neophyte said:
They are the sort of folk who would describe The Beatles “She Loves You’ as a group of white cis-male singers with their typically-privileged patriarchal account of an incident, where a vagina-owner’s emotional attitude is being assumed on their behalf…over music and vocal stylings culturally appropriated from POC performers and musicians.
ROFL.
Pure gold, Neo :)
I just think it’s a shitty song…
dv said:
sibeen said:
Neophyte said:
They are the sort of folk who would describe The Beatles “She Loves You’ as a group of white cis-male singers with their typically-privileged patriarchal account of an incident, where a vagina-owner’s emotional attitude is being assumed on their behalf…over music and vocal stylings culturally appropriated from POC performers and musicians.
ROFL.
Pure gold, Neo :)
I just think it’s a shitty song…
Yeah yeah.
dv said:
sibeen said:
Neophyte said:
They are the sort of folk who would describe The Beatles “She Loves You’ as a group of white cis-male singers with their typically-privileged patriarchal account of an incident, where a vagina-owner’s emotional attitude is being assumed on their behalf…over music and vocal stylings culturally appropriated from POC performers and musicians.
ROFL.
Pure gold, Neo :)
I just think it’s a shitty song…
We’re well aware that your love for The Beatles knows no bounds.
sibeen said:
dv said:
sibeen said:ROFL.
Pure gold, Neo :)
I just think it’s a shitty song…
We’re well aware that your love for The Beatles knows no bounds.
no one could take that bad song and make it better.
JudgeMental said:
sibeen said:
dv said:I just think it’s a shitty song…
We’re well aware that your love for The Beatles knows no bounds.
no one could take that bad song and make it better.
He has been hiding his love away.
sibeen said:
dv said:
sibeen said:ROFL.
Pure gold, Neo :)
I just think it’s a shitty song…
We’re well aware that your love for The Beatles knows no bounds.
Certainly, no lower bounds
sibeen said:
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2020/jun/27/the-simpsons-stops-using-white-actors-to-voice-non-white-charactersMy take, that’s stupid.
Hand on heart, I don’t understand your objection. If this were an external edict, it would be a bad idea, but this is a production house voluntarily changing their practices. It might be an overreaction, but its a reaction to a genuine historical problem.
dv said:
sibeen said:
dv said:I just think it’s a shitty song…
We’re well aware that your love for The Beatles knows no bounds.
Certainly, no lower bounds
Tamb said:
dv said:
sibeen said:We’re well aware that your love for The Beatles knows no bounds.
Certainly, no lower bounds
Would a lower bound be a hop?
it’s what the cow did over the moon.
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
sibeen said:ROFL.
Pure gold, Neo :)
I just think it’s a shitty song…
Yeah yeah.
The Rutles were better
JudgeMental said:
Tamb said:
dv said:Certainly, no lower bounds
Would a lower bound be a hop?it’s what the cow did over the moon.
Laika Bos
JudgeMental said:
Tamb said:
dv said:Certainly, no lower bounds
Would a lower bound be a hop?it’s what the cow did over the moon.
I went outside to prune a rose. Instead the lemon tree got more pruning. It must cringe when it sees me coming with secateurs and loppers. But if I keep it opened up, we get lots and lots of beautiful lemons.
Tamb said:
dv said:
JudgeMental said:
Tamb said:Would a lower bound be a hop?
it’s what the cow did over the moon.
Laika Bos
Was she on Apollo VIII?
no that was a chicken
SCIENCE said:
Tamb said:
dv said:Laika Bos
Was she on Apollo VIII?
no that was a chicken
ah … I love you people.
I’m going to watch an episode of Murdoch Mysteries. Back later.
buffy said:
I’m going to watch an episode of Murdoch Mysteries. Back later.
“How is Rupert still alive?”
sibeen said:
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2020/jun/27/the-simpsons-stops-using-white-actors-to-voice-non-white-charactersMy take, that’s stupid.
Well if there were about proportionate numbers of non-white actors voicing white parts, I’d agree, but since there aren’t, I don’t.
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2020/jun/27/the-simpsons-stops-using-white-actors-to-voice-non-white-charactersMy take, that’s stupid.
Well if there were about proportionate numbers of non-white actors voicing white parts, I’d agree, but since there aren’t, I don’t.
In fairness there are no white people on the show…
dv said:
sibeen said:
Neophyte said:
They are the sort of folk who would describe The Beatles “She Loves You’ as a group of white cis-male singers with their typically-privileged patriarchal account of an incident, where a vagina-owner’s emotional attitude is being assumed on their behalf…over music and vocal stylings culturally appropriated from POC performers and musicians.
ROFL.
Pure gold, Neo :)
I just think it’s a shitty song…
You had to be there at the time.
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
sibeen said:ROFL.
Pure gold, Neo :)
I just think it’s a shitty song…
You had to be there at the time.
(grits teeth) I admit they also have some good songs.
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:I just think it’s a shitty song…
You had to be there at the time.
(grits teeth) I admit they also have some good songs.
falls off chair
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2020/jun/27/the-simpsons-stops-using-white-actors-to-voice-non-white-charactersMy take, that’s stupid.
Well if there were about proportionate numbers of non-white actors voicing white parts, I’d agree, but since there aren’t, I don’t.
In fairness there are no white people on the show…
OK, good point, but I meant across the industry, rather than in just one eccentric little segment of it.
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2020/jun/27/the-simpsons-stops-using-white-actors-to-voice-non-white-charactersMy take, that’s stupid.
Well if there were about proportionate numbers of non-white actors voicing white parts, I’d agree, but since there aren’t, I don’t.
In fairness there are no white people on the show…
Sure there is. They just jaundiced AF.
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:I just think it’s a shitty song…
You had to be there at the time.
(grits teeth) I admit they also have some good songs.
And I have to admit I’m not a big Beatles fan :)
Rule 303 said:
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Well if there were about proportionate numbers of non-white actors voicing white parts, I’d agree, but since there aren’t, I don’t.
In fairness there are no white people on the show…
Sure there is. They just jaundiced AF.
aren’t we all dear
Neophyte said:
captain_spalding said:
Neophyte said:
My mistake – it’s called Stop Everything.Hosted by two folk who seem quite woke.
Are their names Tim and Debbie?
They are a 21st century equivalent.
But surely Tim and Debbie were taking the piss out of themselves.
I don’t think you could accuse the Stop Everything pair of doing that.
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:You had to be there at the time.
(grits teeth) I admit they also have some good songs.
And I have to admit I’m not a big Beatles fan :)
My wife says I am worse than a vegan.
The Rev Dodgson said:
But surely Tim and Debbie were taking the piss out of themselves.
I don’t think you could accuse the Stop Everything pair of doing that.
If they are, in fact, like Tim and Debbie, then that’d be exactly what they’re doing.
They just may not be aware that that’s what they’re doing.
dv said:
My wife says I am worse than a vegan.
I just found a comment about Trump that he doesn’t like dogs.
If that’s the case, then i’ll be declaring him to be officially worse than Hitler.
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2020/jun/27/the-simpsons-stops-using-white-actors-to-voice-non-white-charactersMy take, that’s stupid.
Well if there were about proportionate numbers of non-white actors voicing white parts, I’d agree, but since there aren’t, I don’t.
In fairness there are no white people on the show…
apparently yellow is the new white.
dv said:
Rule 303 said:
dv said:In fairness there are no white people on the show…
Sure there is. They just jaundiced AF.
aren’t we all dear
Nah.
JudgeMental said:
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Well if there were about proportionate numbers of non-white actors voicing white parts, I’d agree, but since there aren’t, I don’t.
In fairness there are no white people on the show…
apparently yellow is the new white.
dv said:
My wife says I am worse than a vegan.
Ouch!
captain_spalding said:
The Rev Dodgson said:But surely Tim and Debbie were taking the piss out of themselves.
I don’t think you could accuse the Stop Everything pair of doing that.
If they are, in fact, like Tim and Debbie, then that’d be exactly what they’re doing.
They just may not be aware that that’s what they’re doing.
Who knows, maybe they are and their just better at playing it straight than T&D.
https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2020/06/27/exclusive-new-govt-report-targets-abc/159318000010021
JudgeMental said:
https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2020/06/27/exclusive-new-govt-report-targets-abc/159318000010021
shock

JudgeMental said:
https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2020/06/27/exclusive-new-govt-report-targets-abc/159318000010021
“This is the argument News Corp makes against the ABC: that it is cutting into the audiences of commercial enterprises such as Rupert Murdoch’s newspapers, websites and pay television business.”
But surely in the eyes of those who approve of open market economics that would be a good thing, since the competition will force the commercial operators to improve their efficiency, and provide products better suited to their target markets, to the benefit of everybody.
The Rev Dodgson said:
JudgeMental said:
https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2020/06/27/exclusive-new-govt-report-targets-abc/159318000010021
“This is the argument News Corp makes against the ABC: that it is cutting into the audiences of commercial enterprises such as Rupert Murdoch’s newspapers, websites and pay television business.”
But surely in the eyes of those who approve of open market economics that would be a good thing, since the competition will force the commercial operators to improve their efficiency, and provide products better suited to their target markets, to the benefit of everybody.
Right but the Coalition prefers the private monopoly model.
Fine pie made & ovened, washing up done, time to relax.
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
JudgeMental said:
https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2020/06/27/exclusive-new-govt-report-targets-abc/159318000010021
“This is the argument News Corp makes against the ABC: that it is cutting into the audiences of commercial enterprises such as Rupert Murdoch’s newspapers, websites and pay television business.”
But surely in the eyes of those who approve of open market economics that would be a good thing, since the competition will force the commercial operators to improve their efficiency, and provide products better suited to their target markets, to the benefit of everybody.
Right but the Coalition prefers the private monopoly model.
Mostly because the ABC isn’t allowed to skew the stories/facts/numbers to be favourable to the incumbent government, whereas Murdoch etc. are free to be as biased as they like, and to do or withhold favours for/from the government as their owners please.
A media source which is forbidden from doing the same can sometimes provide an alternative source of more factual information, which the government just might find to be embarrassing.
Get rid of the ABC, and all news will be good news for the government, as long as people like Murdoch are kept on side.
The NSW Govt has purchased Narriearra.
The purchase adds important ecosystems not yet in the national parks estate, particularly the intermittent wetlands fed by the Bulloo River that are currently getting their best drink since 2013. The property also hosts about 90 per cent of all known grey grasswren, one of at least 27 threatened species.
https://www.smh.com.au/environment/conservation/nsw-lands-biggest-conservation-purchase-in-state-s-history-20200622-p554ut.html
Speedy said:
The NSW Govt has purchased Narriearra.The purchase adds important ecosystems not yet in the national parks estate, particularly the intermittent wetlands fed by the Bulloo River that are currently getting their best drink since 2013. The property also hosts about 90 per cent of all known grey grasswren, one of at least 27 threatened species.
https://www.smh.com.au/environment/conservation/nsw-lands-biggest-conservation-purchase-in-state-s-history-20200622-p554ut.html
I wonder if there’s any Qld cops at Cameron Corner, to stop those germ-laden NSW people from sneaking into Qld via SA?
Little Speedy has been complaining of a sore since yesterday. I called the medical centre who told us the next available doctor would call us back as a telephone consultation. Within 5 minutes that was done, and we were instructed to collect a referral from the medical centre’s desk, then drive directly to the pathology place in North Ryde for drive-through testing. There were 2 cars before us but someone approached us right away with a form to add a mobile phone number to, then sign, then they stuck a swab up Little Speedy’s nose and we were away again. Results could be available by the end of day.
Speedy said:
The NSW Govt has purchased Narriearra.The purchase adds important ecosystems not yet in the national parks estate, particularly the intermittent wetlands fed by the Bulloo River that are currently getting their best drink since 2013. The property also hosts about 90 per cent of all known grey grasswren, one of at least 27 threatened species.
https://www.smh.com.au/environment/conservation/nsw-lands-biggest-conservation-purchase-in-state-s-history-20200622-p554ut.html
Well I think that is good news.
captain_spalding said:
Speedy said:
The NSW Govt has purchased Narriearra.The purchase adds important ecosystems not yet in the national parks estate, particularly the intermittent wetlands fed by the Bulloo River that are currently getting their best drink since 2013. The property also hosts about 90 per cent of all known grey grasswren, one of at least 27 threatened species.
https://www.smh.com.au/environment/conservation/nsw-lands-biggest-conservation-purchase-in-state-s-history-20200622-p554ut.html
I wonder if there’s any Qld cops at Cameron Corner, to stop those germ-laden NSW people from sneaking into Qld via SA?
They’d probably have more luck just doing RBT at the gate. The pub at Cameron Corner is feral.
Speedy said:
Little Speedy has been complaining of a sore since yesterday. I called the medical centre who told us the next available doctor would call us back as a telephone consultation. Within 5 minutes that was done, and we were instructed to collect a referral from the medical centre’s desk, then drive directly to the pathology place in North Ryde for drive-through testing. There were 2 cars before us but someone approached us right away with a form to add a mobile phone number to, then sign, then they stuck a swab up Little Speedy’s nose and we were away again. Results could be available by the end of day.
Efficient.
Should be tasty enough.
party_pants said:
Speedy said:
The NSW Govt has purchased Narriearra.The purchase adds important ecosystems not yet in the national parks estate, particularly the intermittent wetlands fed by the Bulloo River that are currently getting their best drink since 2013. The property also hosts about 90 per cent of all known grey grasswren, one of at least 27 threatened species.
https://www.smh.com.au/environment/conservation/nsw-lands-biggest-conservation-purchase-in-state-s-history-20200622-p554ut.html
Well I think that is good news.
Yes, it’s something, and is the best thing that can happen for the species that live there.
Speedy said:
captain_spalding said:
Speedy said:
The NSW Govt has purchased Narriearra.The purchase adds important ecosystems not yet in the national parks estate, particularly the intermittent wetlands fed by the Bulloo River that are currently getting their best drink since 2013. The property also hosts about 90 per cent of all known grey grasswren, one of at least 27 threatened species.
https://www.smh.com.au/environment/conservation/nsw-lands-biggest-conservation-purchase-in-state-s-history-20200622-p554ut.html
I wonder if there’s any Qld cops at Cameron Corner, to stop those germ-laden NSW people from sneaking into Qld via SA?
They’d probably have more luck just doing RBT at the gate. The pub at Cameron Corner is feral.
eyes pop
There’s a pub at Cameron Corner now?
Michael V said:
eyes pop
There’s a pub at Cameron Corner now?
Always has been.
We just weren’t telling you.
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:eyes pop
There’s a pub at Cameron Corner now?
Always has been.
We just weren’t telling you.
Sssshut-up!
Bubblecar said:
Should be tasty enough.
What are you having with it?
Speedy said:
The NSW Govt has purchased Narriearra.The purchase adds important ecosystems not yet in the national parks estate, particularly the intermittent wetlands fed by the Bulloo River that are currently getting their best drink since 2013. The property also hosts about 90 per cent of all known grey grasswren, one of at least 27 threatened species.
https://www.smh.com.au/environment/conservation/nsw-lands-biggest-conservation-purchase-in-state-s-history-20200622-p554ut.html
I looked at that and had to re-orientate myself because I was thinking Ned’s Corner. Wrong state…
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:eyes pop
There’s a pub at Cameron Corner now?
Always has been.
We just weren’t telling you.
There was nothing other than a trig station when I went there. Mind, that was May 1978. In my 1968 Holden Panelvan
Speedy said:
Bubblecar said:
Should be tasty enough.
What are you having with it?
It’s my contribution to the birthday party at my immediately younger sister’s place tomorrow. Everyone’s bringing food, should be about 16 people there.
Bubblecar said:
Should be tasty enough.
Marie claire ladida
Bubblecar said:
Speedy said:
Bubblecar said:
Should be tasty enough.
What are you having with it?
It’s my contribution to the birthday party at my immediately younger sister’s place tomorrow. Everyone’s bringing food, should be about 16 people there.
Well it looks delicious. Hopefully it is enjoyed by all.
IMHO, apple pie goes best with plain, freshly whipped cream. So much better than on its own or with ice-cream.
buffy said:
Speedy said:
The NSW Govt has purchased Narriearra.The purchase adds important ecosystems not yet in the national parks estate, particularly the intermittent wetlands fed by the Bulloo River that are currently getting their best drink since 2013. The property also hosts about 90 per cent of all known grey grasswren, one of at least 27 threatened species.
https://www.smh.com.au/environment/conservation/nsw-lands-biggest-conservation-purchase-in-state-s-history-20200622-p554ut.html
I looked at that and had to re-orientate myself because I was thinking Ned’s Corner. Wrong state…
Certainly nothing at Ned’s Corner.
The Beatles first recorded as The Beat Brothers.
Ian said:
The Beatles first recorded as The Beat Brothers.
Michael V said:
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:eyes pop
There’s a pub at Cameron Corner now?
Always has been.
We just weren’t telling you.
There was nothing other than a trig station when I went there. Mind, that was May 1978. In my 1968 Holden Panelvan
Store/pub established 1990.
Speedy said:
Bubblecar said:
Speedy said:What are you having with it?
It’s my contribution to the birthday party at my immediately younger sister’s place tomorrow. Everyone’s bringing food, should be about 16 people there.
Well it looks delicious. Hopefully it is enjoyed by all.
IMHO, apple pie goes best with plain, freshly whipped cream. So much better than on its own or with ice-cream.
Ta.
All I now about other foods at this stage is that there’ll be chickens, pizzas, sushi, smoked fish, cakes, cheeses of all nations etc.
Bubblecar said:
Speedy said:
Bubblecar said:It’s my contribution to the birthday party at my immediately younger sister’s place tomorrow. Everyone’s bringing food, should be about 16 people there.
Well it looks delicious. Hopefully it is enjoyed by all.
IMHO, apple pie goes best with plain, freshly whipped cream. So much better than on its own or with ice-cream.
Ta.
All I now about other foods at this stage is that there’ll be chickens, pizzas, sushi, smoked fish, cakes, cheeses of all nations etc.
now = know
English chap i worked with in Bundaberg said he used to regularly go to the Cavern Club in Liverpool.
One night, the regular band was off the bill, and a new band substituted.
‘They were shite’, he said, ‘we booed them off the stage. A few weeks later, they were back with a reworked show and better songs.’
You can guess the name of the band.
Bubblecar said:
Speedy said:
Bubblecar said:It’s my contribution to the birthday party at my immediately younger sister’s place tomorrow. Everyone’s bringing food, should be about 16 people there.
Well it looks delicious. Hopefully it is enjoyed by all.
IMHO, apple pie goes best with plain, freshly whipped cream. So much better than on its own or with ice-cream.
Ta.
All I now about other foods at this stage is that there’ll be chickens, pizzas, sushi, smoked fish, cakes, cheeses of all nations etc.
All the necessary food groups :)
captain_spalding said:
English chap i worked with in Bundaberg said he used to regularly go to the Cavern Club in Liverpool.One night, the regular band was off the bill, and a new band substituted.
‘They were shite’, he said, ‘we booed them off the stage. A few weeks later, they were back with a reworked show and better songs.’
You can guess the name of the band.
I was once in a crowd who boo-ed off a supporting band, as we just wanted to hear Rat Cat. The following morning I saw that stupid band again with their same stupid song, this time on Video Hits. It was The Screaming Jets with Better. I still don’t like them or their song. Rat Cat any day :)
Tamb said:
Ian said:
The Beatles first recorded as The Beat Brothers.
Was that before they became The Quarrymen?
Nah. It was a one-off name they used when backing Tony Sheridan on “My Bonnie”.
I thought dv would like to add it to his Beatles factoids.
Janina..Italy is awful I tell you. Lots of rocks and stones everywhere and it is dirty everywhere. And people will steal off you. You have to hold your bag like this wherever you go. Italy is bad I tell you.
sarahs mum said:
Janina..Italy is awful I tell you. Lots of rocks and stones everywhere and it is dirty everywhere. And people will steal off you. You have to hold your bag like this wherever you go. Italy is bad I tell you.
I have never been, so I do not know if this is truthful or not.
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
Janina..Italy is awful I tell you. Lots of rocks and stones everywhere and it is dirty everywhere. And people will steal off you. You have to hold your bag like this wherever you go. Italy is bad I tell you.I have never been, so I do not know if this is truthful or not.
Some people are interested in rocks and stones everywhere I say.
party_pants said:
sarahs mum said:
Janina..Italy is awful I tell you. Lots of rocks and stones everywhere and it is dirty everywhere. And people will steal off you. You have to hold your bag like this wherever you go. Italy is bad I tell you.I have never been, so I do not know if this is truthful or not.
In certain parts it certainly is.
Here’s a chess problem for dv.
Consider the following position:

After 1. h8=R, the position is

The white king hasn’t been moved all game, but the rook on a1 has. After black’s move, can white castle with the newly promoted rook? The FIDE rules on castling are:
FIDE said:
3.8.2 by castling. This is a move of the king and either rook of the same colour along the players first rank, counting as a single move of the king and executed as follows: the king is transferred from its original square two squares towards the rook on its original square, then that rook is transferred to the square the king has just crossed.
3.8.2.1 The right to castle has been lost: 3.8.2.1.1 if the king has already moved, or 3.8.2.1.2 with a rook that has already moved.
The rook on e8 hasn’t moved all game (because it hasn’t existed until now.) So according to the official FIDE rules, the king can move to a7, then the rook from h8 to a6.
FIDE said:
3.8.2.2 Castling is prevented temporarily: 3.8.2.2.1 if the square on which the king stands, or the square which it must cross, or the square which it is to occupy, is attacked by one or more of the opponent’s pieces, or 3.8.2.2.2 if there is any piece between the king and the rook with which castling is to be effected.
btm said:
Here’s a chess problem for dv.Consider the following position:
After 1. h8=R, the position is
The white king hasn’t been moved all game, but the rook on a1 has. After black’s move, can white castle with the newly promoted rook? The FIDE rules on castling are:
FIDE said:
3.8.2 by castling. This is a move of the king and either rook of the same colour along the players first rank, counting as a single move of the king and executed as follows: the king is transferred from its original square two squares towards the rook on its original square, then that rook is transferred to the square the king has just crossed.
3.8.2.1 The right to castle has been lost: 3.8.2.1.1 if the king has already moved, or 3.8.2.1.2 with a rook that has already moved.
The rook on e8 hasn’t moved all game (because it hasn’t existed until now.) So according to the official FIDE rules, the king can move to a7, then the rook from h8 to a6.
FIDE said:
3.8.2.2 Castling is prevented temporarily: 3.8.2.2.1 if the square on which the king stands, or the square which it must cross, or the square which it is to occupy, is attacked by one or more of the opponent’s pieces, or 3.8.2.2.2 if there is any piece between the king and the rook with which castling is to be effected.
This rule doesn’t apply, because no pieces block the paths of either the king or the rook, and nor will the king moves out, through, or into check.
For the king to castle like that the king would have to be on E8 no matter how temporarily. It can’t be on E8 due to the black king being on E7.
Saying that, even if the black king was on B4 they’d be a riot if anyone tried to castles as you’re suggesting :)
btm said:
Well, no, the king can’t castle with the rook on the opposite rank. You make an amusing point about the wording but it’s not a controversial point.
Here’s a chess problem for dv.Consider the following position:
After 1. h8=R, the position is
The white king hasn’t been moved all game, but the rook on a1 has. After black’s move, can white castle with the newly promoted rook? The FIDE rules on castling are:
FIDE said:
3.8.2 by castling. This is a move of the king and either rook of the same colour along the players first rank, counting as a single move of the king and executed as follows: the king is transferred from its original square two squares towards the rook on its original square, then that rook is transferred to the square the king has just crossed.
3.8.2.1 The right to castle has been lost: 3.8.2.1.1 if the king has already moved, or 3.8.2.1.2 with a rook that has already moved.
The rook on e8 hasn’t moved all game (because it hasn’t existed until now.) So according to the official FIDE rules, the king can move to a7, then the rook from h8 to a6.
FIDE said:
3.8.2.2 Castling is prevented temporarily: 3.8.2.2.1 if the square on which the king stands, or the square which it must cross, or the square which it is to occupy, is attacked by one or more of the opponent’s pieces, or 3.8.2.2.2 if there is any piece between the king and the rook with which castling is to be effected.
This rule doesn’t apply, because no pieces block the paths of either the king or the rook, and nor will the king moves out, through, or into check.
7. Which word meaning in reality or truth is an anagram of a word that describes having asserted something to be not true?
sibeen said:
buffy said:
Speedy said:
The NSW Govt has purchased Narriearra.The purchase adds important ecosystems not yet in the national parks estate, particularly the intermittent wetlands fed by the Bulloo River that are currently getting their best drink since 2013. The property also hosts about 90 per cent of all known grey grasswren, one of at least 27 threatened species.
https://www.smh.com.au/environment/conservation/nsw-lands-biggest-conservation-purchase-in-state-s-history-20200622-p554ut.html
I looked at that and had to re-orientate myself because I was thinking Ned’s Corner. Wrong state…
Certainly nothing at Ned’s Corner.
I know of it because…
https://www.trustfornature.org.au/neds-corner-station
And our bush block is a Trust for Nature block. And we get the newsletters.
sarahs mum said:
7. Which word meaning in reality or truth is an anagram of a word that describes having asserted something to be not true?
“a word that describes having asserted something to be not true”
So I take it this part is a past form of a verb.
sarahs mum said:
7. Which word meaning in reality or truth is an anagram of a word that describes having asserted something to be not true?
indeed, denied
Hello – is it better to bury garbage given the methane gas the leaching of chemicals into the soil the plastics compared with burning it off and those carbon emissions but not leaving a mass of a rotting mess for someone else to deal with?
Ideally no rubbish would be the best results but not likely.
I think about those mounds of artificial hills overseas and out landfill piles in Australia.
sibeen said:
For the king to castle like that the king would have to be on E8 no matter how temporarily. It can’t be on E8 due to the black king being on E7.
Why would the white king have to be on e8? The official rules don’t seem to require the rook to be on the same rank as the king, only that the rook hasn’t moved until castling (which of course was the point of the problem.)
Life
https://i.imgur.com/1OekWlB.mp4
dv said:
Well, no, the king can’t castle with the rook on the opposite rank. You make an amusing point about the wording but it’s not a controversial point.
Why not? As noted in my reply to sibeen, there doesn’t seem to be any prohibition in the rules.
dv said:
sarahs mum said:
7. Which word meaning in reality or truth is an anagram of a word that describes having asserted something to be not true?
indeed, denied
I knew you’d get it.
monkey skipper said:
Hello – is it better to bury garbage given the methane gas the leaching of chemicals into the soil the plastics compared with burning it off and those carbon emissions but not leaving a mass of a rotting mess for someone else to deal with?Ideally no rubbish would be the best results but not likely.
I think about those mounds of artificial hills overseas and out landfill piles in Australia.
What kind of chemicals? Environmentally dangerous compounds usually have distinct management methods.
btm said:
dv said:Well, no, the king can’t castle with the rook on the opposite rank. You make an amusing point about the wording but it’s not a controversial point.
Why not? As noted in my reply to sibeen, there doesn’t seem to be any prohibition in the rules.
Perhaps because everyone interprets the rules in another way.
dv said:
monkey skipper said:
Hello – is it better to bury garbage given the methane gas the leaching of chemicals into the soil the plastics compared with burning it off and those carbon emissions but not leaving a mass of a rotting mess for someone else to deal with?Ideally no rubbish would be the best results but not likely.
I think about those mounds of artificial hills overseas and out landfill piles in Australia.
What kind of chemicals? Environmentally dangerous compounds usually have distinct management methods.
In Australia – yes (if people comply with the rules). Is there a phosphate issue from green waste at landfil sites? weed seed spreading from the green waste etc etc?
btm said:
sibeen said:
For the king to castle like that the king would have to be on E8 no matter how temporarily. It can’t be on E8 due to the black king being on E7.
Why would the white king have to be on e8? The official rules don’t seem to require the rook to be on the same rank as the king, only that the rook hasn’t moved until castling (which of course was the point of the problem.)
3.8.2 by castling. This is a move of the king and either rook of the same colour along the players first rank
The king and the rook have to be on the same rank.
“This is a move of the king and either rook of the same colour along the players first rank, “
This is fairly unambiguous.
sarahs mum said:
dv said:
sarahs mum said:
7. Which word meaning in reality or truth is an anagram of a word that describes having asserted something to be not true?
indeed, denied
I knew you’d get it.
Too bloody quick for my liking.
I was still working my way through anagrams of bullshit.
monkey skipper said:
dv said:
monkey skipper said:
Hello – is it better to bury garbage given the methane gas the leaching of chemicals into the soil the plastics compared with burning it off and those carbon emissions but not leaving a mass of a rotting mess for someone else to deal with?Ideally no rubbish would be the best results but not likely.
I think about those mounds of artificial hills overseas and out landfill piles in Australia.
What kind of chemicals? Environmentally dangerous compounds usually have distinct management methods.
In Australia – yes (if people comply with the rules). Is there a phosphate issue from green waste at landfil sites? weed seed spreading from the green waste etc etc?
AFAIK green waste is composted and sold for garden or agricultural use.
The Rev Dodgson said:
sarahs mum said:
dv said:indeed, denied
I knew you’d get it.
Too bloody quick for my liking.
I was still working my way through anagrams of bullshit.
LOL.
The Rev Dodgson said:
sarahs mum said:
dv said:indeed, denied
I knew you’d get it.
Too bloody quick for my liking.
I was still working my way through anagrams of bullshit.
lol :)

party_pants said:
monkey skipper said:
dv said:What kind of chemicals? Environmentally dangerous compounds usually have distinct management methods.
In Australia – yes (if people comply with the rules). Is there a phosphate issue from green waste at landfil sites? weed seed spreading from the green waste etc etc?
AFAIK green waste is composted and sold for garden or agricultural use.
And it has weed seeds in it usually.
dv said:
“This is a move of the king and either rook of the same colour along the players first rank, “This is fairly unambiguous.
A little research suggests that I’m not the first to think of it; there’s a problem relating to it from 1918. See https://www.ecforum.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10857
The Rev Dodgson said:
sarahs mum said:
dv said:indeed, denied
I knew you’d get it.
Too bloody quick for my liking.
I was still working my way through anagrams of bullshit.
I’m not really happy with the word denied being as good as telling a lie.
party_pants said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
sarahs mum said:I knew you’d get it.
Too bloody quick for my liking.
I was still working my way through anagrams of bullshit.
I’m not really happy with the word denied being as good as telling a lie.
Denial. lying to ones self
party_pants said:
I’m not really happy with the word denied being as good as telling a lie.
That’s not what the riddle said. It said “having asserted something to be not true”.
dv said:
party_pants said:
I’m not really happy with the word denied being as good as telling a lie.
That’s not what the riddle said. It said “having asserted something to be not true”.
sorry p_p, objection denied.
monkey skipper said:
party_pants said:
monkey skipper said:In Australia – yes (if people comply with the rules). Is there a phosphate issue from green waste at landfil sites? weed seed spreading from the green waste etc etc?
AFAIK green waste is composted and sold for garden or agricultural use.
And it has weed seeds in it usually.
I thought the heat of composting was supposed to kill weeds and pathogens. Supposed to maintatin a temp of 60C or something like that. But I’ve never done it myself. Commercial scale establishments should know what they are doing and have large enough piles of stuff to maintain the right temps.
dv said:
party_pants said:
I’m not really happy with the word denied being as good as telling a lie.
That’s not what the riddle said. It said “having asserted something to be not true”.
where’s my bloody glasses…..
Unusual tuition method
https://i.imgur.com/5FCPgso.mp4
lahlia’s got me an ice pop, after I mentioned the, or one of the inventors of the fridge
she’s made a dolls house, fully made it out of cardboard, and made a toilet and other things from clay, between watching episodes of wallace and gromit
in other news lady cut my hair and trimmed my beard, followed up by lahlia styling my hair
oh’s been numerous games of hangman, the girl put a full stop on one word to hang me, conscience didn’t seem to bother her at all
transition said:
lahlia’s got me an ice pop, after I mentioned the, or one of the inventors of the fridgeshe’s made a dolls house, fully made it out of cardboard, and made a toilet and other things from clay, between watching episodes of wallace and gromit
in other news lady cut my hair and trimmed my beard, followed up by lahlia styling my hair
oh’s been numerous games of hangman, the girl put a full stop on one word to hang me, conscience didn’t seem to bother her at all
:)
transition said:
oh’s been numerous games of hangman, the girl put a full stop on one word to hang me, conscience didn’t seem to bother her at all
I would have protested most vociferously!
btm said:
Here’s a chess problem for dv.
Been many a long year since i played a game of chess.
I’ve now decided that the game is absurdly overlong.
Instead of going through all that time and effort to eliminate most of the 32 pieces you start with, just pick 4 or 5 at random (like in this problem) set ‘em up in a similar way, and, as they say ‘cut to the chase’.
transition said:
oh’s been numerous games of hangman, the girl put a full stop on one word to hang me, conscience didn’t seem to bother her at all
A born politician.
party_pants said:
dv said:party_pants said:
I’m not really happy with the word denied being as good as telling a lie.
That’s not what the riddle said. It said “having asserted something to be not true”.
where’s my bloody glasses…..
under the sofa pillow.
captain_spalding said:
btm said:
Here’s a chess problem for dv.Been many a long year since i played a game of chess.
I’ve now decided that the game is absurdly overlong.
Instead of going through all that time and effort to eliminate most of the 32 pieces you start with, just pick 4 or 5 at random (like in this problem) set ‘em up in a similar way, and, as they say ‘cut to the chase’.
the last game I played took days. The closer I came to winning the longer it was taking. Then I started having nightmares about chess. And then I stopped playing chess.
monkey skipper said:
party_pants said:
dv said:That’s not what the riddle said. It said “having asserted something to be not true”.
where’s my bloody glasses…..
under the sofa pillow.
you were right!
I’d better turn off the webcam.
PermeateFree said:
:)
party_pants said:
monkey skipper said:
party_pants said:where’s my bloody glasses…..
under the sofa pillow.
you were right!
I’d better turn off the webcam.
At least put on some pants.
party_pants said:
monkey skipper said:
party_pants said:where’s my bloody glasses…..
under the sofa pillow.
you were right!
I’d better turn off the webcam.
Too funny!
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:
monkey skipper said:under the sofa pillow.
you were right!
I’d better turn off the webcam.
At least put on some pants.
trakkie daks are just fine for a lazy winter’s afternoon indoors.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jun/27/postcode-lottery-hindered-bushfire-aid-for-residents-on-nsw-victorian-border-inquiry-hears
I have been thinking some of late about how DV thinks we should get rid of the states. This points to some reasons.
(I have been comparing how Aus states reacted to Covid vs the US ones recently. )
sarahs mum said:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jun/27/postcode-lottery-hindered-bushfire-aid-for-residents-on-nsw-victorian-border-inquiry-hearsI have been thinking some of late about how DV thinks we should get rid of the states. This points to some reasons.
(I have been comparing how Aus states reacted to Covid vs the US ones recently. )
Actually this pandemic has highlighted for me one of the only decent things that states can do.
sibeen said:
Actually this pandemic has highlighted for me one of the only decent things that states can do.
I’ve thought that State govts were unnecessary myself.
Can you imagine where we’d be if all decisions on this pandemic were up to the Daggy Dad Govt in Canberra?
I have visions of a small and unpleasant waterway, and a craft bereft of instruments manual propulsion.
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jun/27/postcode-lottery-hindered-bushfire-aid-for-residents-on-nsw-victorian-border-inquiry-hearsI have been thinking some of late about how DV thinks we should get rid of the states. This points to some reasons.
(I have been comparing how Aus states reacted to Covid vs the US ones recently. )
Actually this pandemic has highlighted for me one of the only decent things that states can do.
+1
‘…instruments of manual propulsion…’
when we got to this sunlit land we could not believe that 12 million people needed so many governments. I also thought australian comedy shows naff until aunty jack came along.
Bogsnorkler said:
when we got to this sunlit land we could not believe that 12 million people needed so many governments. I also thought australian comedy shows naff until aunty jack came along.
More than one was naff after that, too.
M’lud, the prosecution tenders ‘Last of the Australians’ as evidence.
Bogsnorkler said:
when we got to this sunlit land we could not believe that 12 million people needed so many governments. I also thought australian comedy shows naff until aunty jack came along.
It was 12.5 mill when I was taught at school how to draw around a plastic stencil of the shape of Australia.
sarahs mum said:
Bogsnorkler said:
when we got to this sunlit land we could not believe that 12 million people needed so many governments. I also thought australian comedy shows naff until aunty jack came along.
It was 12.5 mill when I was taught at school how to draw around a plastic stencil of the shape of Australia.
What puzzles me is, that while we’ve pretty much doubled the population since then, we seem to have at least tripled the number of dickheads in that population.
captain_spalding said:
sarahs mum said:
Bogsnorkler said:
when we got to this sunlit land we could not believe that 12 million people needed so many governments. I also thought australian comedy shows naff until aunty jack came along.
It was 12.5 mill when I was taught at school how to draw around a plastic stencil of the shape of Australia.
What puzzles me is, that while we’ve pretty much doubled the population since then, we seem to have at least tripled the number of dickheads in that population.
Probably not on the second point, it may be just a case of you becoming older and wiser and more easily able to spot them.

https://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/video/1744621123821/the-machinist
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Machinist#Plot
captain_spalding said:
‘…instruments of manual propulsion…’
Inspectors failed to find any IMPs
dv said:
They kind of look like frilled neck lizards in that position.
captain_spalding said:
transition said:oh’s been numerous games of hangman, the girl put a full stop on one word to hang me, conscience didn’t seem to bother her at all
A born politician.
girl asked what a politician was after reading that, I started with you may not have a high opinion of them, followed by they steer the ship for everyone, are elected to do that, represent the people, help make decisions for, to hopefully improve the lives of everyone, mentioned taxes, health, education and a few other things
dv said:
I don’t get it.
I’m back. I’ll have to do a catch up.
Food report. Cam’s lamb and potato pie accompanied by assorted veggies from the garden including carrot/snap peas/celery/asparagus/capsicum. Dessert is lemon self saucing pudding. Because when I pruned the lemon tree today, there were lemons. Unfortunately this recipe only used up one of them…
Major Brendan Nottle says The Salvation Army has seen “a tripling of demand for our emergency relief programs right across the country”.
“We’re seeing people come to us that we’ve never seen before, these are often people who’ve donated in the past and now you see them come in and their heads are down and they’re really embarrassed about being there,” he said.
Major Nottle said the generosity people showed since the beginning of the coronavirus crisis made him “proud to be Australian”.
“Australians are generous at the best of times and when we’re going through periods of great wealth, they’re wonderful,” he said.
“But when you see them at incredibly uncertain times just dip in and do what they can, it’s incredibly moving.”
Major Nottle said The Salvation Army was expecting “a tsunami of need” when JobKeeper payments came to an end and called on Australians to donate what they could.
transition said:
captain_spalding said:
transition said:oh’s been numerous games of hangman, the girl put a full stop on one word to hang me, conscience didn’t seem to bother her at all
A born politician.
girl asked what a politician was after reading that, I started with you may not have a high opinion of them, followed by they steer the ship for everyone, are elected to do that, represent the people, help make decisions for, to hopefully improve the lives of everyone, mentioned taxes, health, education and a few other things
Oh.
I fear that you’ve set her up for disappointment.
But, let that not stand in her way. She may be the saviour we so desperately need.
Michael V said:
dv said:
I don’t get it.
They killed Steve
dv said:
Michael V said:
dv said:
I don’t get it.
They killed Steve
Right.
dv said:
Michael V said:
dv said:
I don’t get it.
They killed Steve
Bastards!
buffy said:
I’m back. I’ll have to do a catch up.Food report. Cam’s lamb and potato pie accompanied by assorted veggies from the garden including carrot/snap peas/celery/asparagus/capsicum. Dessert is lemon self saucing pudding. Because when I pruned the lemon tree today, there were lemons. Unfortunately this recipe only used up one of them…
I could go a lemon self saucing pud.
captain_spalding said:
transition said:
captain_spalding said:A born politician.
girl asked what a politician was after reading that, I started with you may not have a high opinion of them, followed by they steer the ship for everyone, are elected to do that, represent the people, help make decisions for, to hopefully improve the lives of everyone, mentioned taxes, health, education and a few other things
Oh.
I fear that you’ve set her up for disappointment.
But, let that not stand in her way. She may be the saviour we so desperately need.
telling me she likes long division today, explaining it to me, how to do it, in grade three, natural as a walk in the park, so taxes must be going to good things, good teachers and all
sibeen said:
dv said:
Michael V said:I don’t get it.
They killed Steve
Bastards!
fuck in hell, i guess we are doomed to sibeen name-dropping that he went to school with steve irwin for ever now.
buffy said:
I’m back. I’ll have to do a catch up.Food report. Cam’s lamb and potato pie accompanied by assorted veggies from the garden including carrot/snap peas/celery/asparagus/capsicum. Dessert is lemon self saucing pudding. Because when I pruned the lemon tree today, there were lemons. Unfortunately this recipe only used up one of them…
Can you put them through a juice extractor and freeze the juice in ice cube trays?
I’ve had a generic meat sauce in the slow cooker for a few hours – Half of which has received Italian herb mix and gone into plastic containers as bolognase sauce, half has gone into a pot with red beans and potatoes and Mexican spice mix (+ curry powder). That’ll be dinner, served with sour cream.
Rule 303 said:
buffy said:
I’m back. I’ll have to do a catch up.Food report. Cam’s lamb and potato pie accompanied by assorted veggies from the garden including carrot/snap peas/celery/asparagus/capsicum. Dessert is lemon self saucing pudding. Because when I pruned the lemon tree today, there were lemons. Unfortunately this recipe only used up one of them…
Can you put them through a juice extractor and freeze the juice in ice cube trays?
I’ve had a generic meat sauce in the slow cooker for a few hours – Half of which has received Italian herb mix and gone into plastic containers as bolognase sauce, half has gone into a pot with red beans and potatoes and Mexican spice mix (+ curry powder). That’ll be dinner, served with sour cream.
>>Can you put them through a juice extractor and freeze the juice in ice cube trays?<<
If I could be bothered. We always have too many lemons these days, even after supplying the local pub and the baker. Some inevitably become compost. When you can just wander outside and pick one when cooking, you don’t bother preserving. I might make some lemon cordial.
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:
dv said:They killed Steve
Bastards!
fuck in hell, i guess we are doomed to sibeen name-dropping that he went to school with steve irwin for ever now.
Heh, heh, heh, I didn’t bring him up now, did I.
Estonia’s population growth is stagnant and expected to continue a decline. Its population today is about 1.28 million, which is expected to drop to 1.1 million by 2030 and 860,000 by 2060. Estonia was recently ranked as the 23rd fastest-shrinking country in the world with a 2050 population forecast at 1.22 million, a decline of more than 8%.
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:
dv said:They killed Steve
Bastards!
fuck in hell, i guess we are doomed to sibeen name-dropping that he went to school with steve irwin for ever now.
Probably not, after all the baryons are all meant to decay before 10 100 years from now.
monkey skipper said:
Estonia’s population growth is stagnant and expected to continue a decline. Its population today is about 1.28 million, which is expected to drop to 1.1 million by 2030 and 860,000 by 2060. Estonia was recently ranked as the 23rd fastest-shrinking country in the world with a 2050 population forecast at 1.22 million, a decline of more than 8%.
They really need to stop eating each other.
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:
dv said:They killed Steve
Bastards!
fuck in hell, i guess we are doomed to sibeen name-dropping that he went to school with steve irwin for ever now.
And I never claimed I went to school with Steve Irwin.
party_pants said:
monkey skipper said:
Estonia’s population growth is stagnant and expected to continue a decline. Its population today is about 1.28 million, which is expected to drop to 1.1 million by 2030 and 860,000 by 2060. Estonia was recently ranked as the 23rd fastest-shrinking country in the world with a 2050 population forecast at 1.22 million, a decline of more than 8%.
They really need to stop eating each other.
There was a huge drop in the population during WW2 for obvious reasons. There isn’t that many Estonians outside of Estonia as far as I know. Although my aunt suggests there is larger population in Victoria an specifically Melbourne compared with Sydney. I don’t know why she thinks that or knows that.
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:
Bastards!
fuck in hell, i guess we are doomed to sibeen name-dropping that he went to school with steve irwin for ever now.
Heh, heh, heh, I didn’t bring him up now, did I.
Did you go to school with Steve Irwin?
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:
Bastards!
fuck in hell, i guess we are doomed to sibeen name-dropping that he went to school with steve irwin for ever now.
Heh, heh, heh, I didn’t bring him up now, did I.
You really did.
I have never seen the point of the narcissistic celebrity association name drop, because what you’re really saying is that you were closely associated with someone who became famous, and you didn’t.
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:
Bastards!
fuck in hell, i guess we are doomed to sibeen name-dropping that he went to school with steve irwin for ever now.
And I never claimed I went to school with Steve Irwin.
You did, however, claim to have visited his parent’s house, for python feeding, I think it was…
I reckon I should start stirfrying those veggies.
monkey skipper said:
party_pants said:
monkey skipper said:
Estonia’s population growth is stagnant and expected to continue a decline. Its population today is about 1.28 million, which is expected to drop to 1.1 million by 2030 and 860,000 by 2060. Estonia was recently ranked as the 23rd fastest-shrinking country in the world with a 2050 population forecast at 1.22 million, a decline of more than 8%.
They really need to stop eating each other.
There was a huge drop in the population during WW2 for obvious reasons. There isn’t that many Estonians outside of Estonia as far as I know. Although my aunt suggests there is larger population in Victoria an specifically Melbourne compared with Sydney. I don’t know why she thinks that or knows that.
I’m from Sydney and the only Estonian I have ever met I met in Victoria.
monkey skipper said:
party_pants said:
monkey skipper said:
Estonia’s population growth is stagnant and expected to continue a decline. Its population today is about 1.28 million, which is expected to drop to 1.1 million by 2030 and 860,000 by 2060. Estonia was recently ranked as the 23rd fastest-shrinking country in the world with a 2050 population forecast at 1.22 million, a decline of more than 8%.
They really need to stop eating each other.
There was a huge drop in the population during WW2 for obvious reasons. There isn’t that many Estonians outside of Estonia as far as I know. Although my aunt suggests there is larger population in Victoria an specifically Melbourne compared with Sydney. I don’t know why she thinks that or knows that.
One of my girlfriend’s at school in Sydney was Estonian. Her Dad was a newspaper editor>Snowy Mountain’s worker.
Mum said there is a photo of her sitting on Resh’s beer magnates knee as a baby.
Speedy said:
monkey skipper said:
party_pants said:They really need to stop eating each other.
There was a huge drop in the population during WW2 for obvious reasons. There isn’t that many Estonians outside of Estonia as far as I know. Although my aunt suggests there is larger population in Victoria an specifically Melbourne compared with Sydney. I don’t know why she thinks that or knows that.
I’m from Sydney and the only Estonian I have ever met I met in Victoria.
I have met a few of them but almost all of them are my own relatives with that heritage (born in Australia) and some of my grandparent’s friends just a handful of people.
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:fuck in hell, i guess we are doomed to sibeen name-dropping that he went to school with steve irwin for ever now.
Heh, heh, heh, I didn’t bring him up now, did I.
Did you go to school with Steve Irwin?
No :)
monkey skipper said:
Mum said there is a photo of her sitting on Resh’s beer magnates knee as a baby.
Used to be a pub near where I worked that sold their dark ale on tap. Bloody nice drop it was too. Haven’t seen it for sale for ages.
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:fuck in hell, i guess we are doomed to sibeen name-dropping that he went to school with steve irwin for ever now.
Heh, heh, heh, I didn’t bring him up now, did I.
Did you go to school with Steve Irwin?
That photo is from kindergarten.
buffy said:
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:fuck in hell, i guess we are doomed to sibeen name-dropping that he went to school with steve irwin for ever now.
And I never claimed I went to school with Steve Irwin.
You did, however, claim to have visited his parent’s house, for python feeding, I think it was…
Yeppers :)
We were good friends for quite a few years.
sarahs mum said:
monkey skipper said:
party_pants said:They really need to stop eating each other.
There was a huge drop in the population during WW2 for obvious reasons. There isn’t that many Estonians outside of Estonia as far as I know. Although my aunt suggests there is larger population in Victoria an specifically Melbourne compared with Sydney. I don’t know why she thinks that or knows that.
One of my girlfriend’s at school in Sydney was Estonian. Her Dad was a newspaper editor>Snowy Mountain’s worker.
One of my sister’s girlfriends from school is Lithuanian and my cousin’s wife is Latvian .. I suppose they are close but really their languages are not.
monkey skipper said:
Mum said there is a photo of her sitting on Resh’s beer magnates knee as a baby.
Reschs Pilsner.
My dad used to drink it when I was little, but almost every time he opened a can he would remark that it wasn’t a real Pilsner, as a real one was made using the water from a river in the town of Plzen.
Speedy said:
monkey skipper said:
Mum said there is a photo of her sitting on Resh’s beer magnates knee as a baby.
Reschs Pilsner.
My dad used to drink it when I was little, but almost every time he opened a can he would remark that it wasn’t a real Pilsner, as a real one was made using the water from a river in the town of Plzen.
:-)
freezer food tonight. chicken curry was the lucky mystery choice. i also need to make me some more hot lime pickles. down to the last half jar.
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
sibeen said:Heh, heh, heh, I didn’t bring him up now, did I.
Did you go to school with Steve Irwin?
No :)
If it’s any help, neither did i.
Speedy said:
monkey skipper said:
Mum said there is a photo of her sitting on Resh’s beer magnates knee as a baby.
Reschs Pilsner.
My dad used to drink it when I was little, but almost every time he opened a can he would remark that it wasn’t a real Pilsner, as a real one was made using the water from a river in the town of Plzen.
Oh, picky, picky, picky…
Bogsnorkler said:
freezer food tonight. chicken curry was the lucky mystery choice. i also need to make me some more hot lime pickles. down to the last half jar.
While you’re at it, i could do with three or four jars.
sibeen said:
Michael V said:
sibeen said:Heh, heh, heh, I didn’t bring him up now, did I.
Did you go to school with Steve Irwin?
That photo is from kindergarten.
I thought kindergarten was the first year at school. At least it was for me.
So who was the mysterious Steve. I thought it looked remarkably like a very young Smith.
Apparently the majority of the population of Estonians are atheists or non-religious
Well… on that note I am off to ponder my future gene pool. :P
captain_spalding said:
Bogsnorkler said:
freezer food tonight. chicken curry was the lucky mystery choice. i also need to make me some more hot lime pickles. down to the last half jar.
While you’re at it, i could do with three or four jars.
So could I.
One of my very favourite snacks is cracker biscuits with cheese and hot lime pickles.
monkey skipper said:
Apparently the majority of the population of Estonians are atheists or non-religious
Not surprising. A lot of former Eastern bloc countries are, with religion having been official suppressed for a couple of generations.
Speedy said:
monkey skipper said:
Mum said there is a photo of her sitting on Resh’s beer magnates knee as a baby.
Reschs Pilsner.
My dad used to drink it when I was little, but almost every time he opened a can he would remark that it wasn’t a real Pilsner, as a real one was made using the water from a river in the town of Plzen.
I had a uncle who was a floor manager at Reschs.
monkey skipper said:
Apparently the majority of the population of Estonians are atheists or non-religious
Well, when you’ve been overrun by this country, and then that country, and then this country, and your prayers for salvation have obviously gone unanswered…
captain_spalding said:
Speedy said:
monkey skipper said:
Mum said there is a photo of her sitting on Resh’s beer magnates knee as a baby.
Reschs Pilsner.
My dad used to drink it when I was little, but almost every time he opened a can he would remark that it wasn’t a real Pilsner, as a real one was made using the water from a river in the town of Plzen.
Oh, picky, picky, picky…
There was a bit of OCD there, yes, but being from Prague I think he may have found that the disloyalty, once acknowledged, excused it.
Speedy said:
captain_spalding said:
Speedy said:Reschs Pilsner.
My dad used to drink it when I was little, but almost every time he opened a can he would remark that it wasn’t a real Pilsner, as a real one was made using the water from a river in the town of Plzen.
Oh, picky, picky, picky…
There was a bit of OCD there, yes, but being from Prague I think he may have found that the disloyalty, once acknowledged, excused it.
I miss Resch’s beer.
sarahs mum said:
Speedy said:
monkey skipper said:
Mum said there is a photo of her sitting on Resh’s beer magnates knee as a baby.
Reschs Pilsner.
My dad used to drink it when I was little, but almost every time he opened a can he would remark that it wasn’t a real Pilsner, as a real one was made using the water from a river in the town of Plzen.
I had a uncle who was a floor manager at Reschs.
Still available:
https://www.danmurphys.com.au/product/DM_91014/reschs-pilsener-375ml
Michael V said:
sarahs mum said:
Speedy said:Reschs Pilsner.
My dad used to drink it when I was little, but almost every time he opened a can he would remark that it wasn’t a real Pilsner, as a real one was made using the water from a river in the town of Plzen.
I had a uncle who was a floor manager at Reschs.
Still available:
https://www.danmurphys.com.au/product/DM_91014/reschs-pilsener-375ml
I may have to ask them to get some for me.
party_pants said:
monkey skipper said:
Mum said there is a photo of her sitting on Resh’s beer magnates knee as a baby.
Used to be a pub near where I worked that sold their dark ale on tap. Bloody nice drop it was too. Haven’t seen it for sale for ages.
Their dark ale was a fine drop. Their pilsener not so much.
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
monkey skipper said:
Mum said there is a photo of her sitting on Resh’s beer magnates knee as a baby.
Used to be a pub near where I worked that sold their dark ale on tap. Bloody nice drop it was too. Haven’t seen it for sale for ages.
Their dark ale was a fine drop. Their pilsener not so much.
Oh, yeah…Resch’s dark….
(sigh)
Anyone here use Tik-Tok?
https://www.boredpanda.com/tik-tok-reverse-engineered-data-information-collecting/?utm_source=smartnews&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=organic
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
monkey skipper said:
Mum said there is a photo of her sitting on Resh’s beer magnates knee as a baby.
Used to be a pub near where I worked that sold their dark ale on tap. Bloody nice drop it was too. Haven’t seen it for sale for ages.
Their dark ale was a fine drop. Their pilsener not so much.
I don’t think I ever had the pleasure of the latter.
My dad drank DA.
sarahs mum said:
My dad drank DA.
A man of good taste and virtue.
sarahs mum said:
My dad drank DA.
Resch’s DA
Dinner Ale.
Or was it ‘Direct Action’?
Here’s the question:
Who remembers Miller’s?
sarahs mum said:
My dad drank DA.
He did what now?
captain_spalding said:
Here’s the question:Who remembers Miller’s?
The American Millers?
Used to be aggressively marketed and frequently on special here for a while in the early 2000s. I bought it every now and again when it was on special, they used to sell dozen in a box which nobody else much did. It was inoffensive but nothing really great. When it went up to premium prices people stopped buying it.
Mrs m and I arrived home today to find a live wattlebird flying around our lounge room.
I found it amusing. Mrs m was totally pissed off.
So now two hours later she’s just got back at me by emptying half a can of Glen 20 in my face.
Cough cough splutter splutter gag gag. That stuff is foul.
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:
Here’s the question:Who remembers Miller’s?
The American Millers?
Used to be aggressively marketed and frequently on special here for a while in the early 2000s. I bought it every now and again when it was on special, they used to sell dozen in a box which nobody else much did. It was inoffensive but nothing really great. When it went up to premium prices people stopped buying it.
Remember the day they tried to foist Budweiser off on us?
:)
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:
Here’s the question:Who remembers Miller’s?
The American Millers?
Used to be aggressively marketed and frequently on special here for a while in the early 2000s. I bought it every now and again when it was on special, they used to sell dozen in a box which nobody else much did. It was inoffensive but nothing really great. When it went up to premium prices people stopped buying it.
Remember the day they tried to foist Budweiser off on us?
:)
I arrived late, as I recall. You bastards didn’t save me one.
captain_spalding said:
Anyone here use Tik-Tok?https://www.boredpanda.com/tik-tok-reverse-engineered-data-information-collecting/?utm_source=smartnews&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=organic
Never ‘eard of it.
Tonight’s imbibement is alcoholic ginger beer, as recommended by one of Mr Mutant’s workmates. It’s quite good, not at all like the cat’s piss I chose last time.
I see Zuck has finally grown a pair and agreed to stamp on disinformation in the prodrome of the US presidential election. I wonder if they’ll be doing the same for other countries?
No exceptions – Facebook finally caves to pressure over Trump posts
(link opens SMH article)
We’re about to watch a horror movie starring Kevin Bacon (61) and Amanda Seyfried (34). That’s not the horror part, apparently.
Divine Angel said:
Tonight’s imbibement is alcoholic ginger beer, as recommended by one of Mr Mutant’s workmates. It’s quite good, not at all like the cat’s piss I chose last time.
Hard Ginger Beer is nice.
Bloody Mary here, because why not get some vegies with your booze?
Divine Angel said:
We’re about to watch a horror movie starring Kevin Bacon (61) and Amanda Seyfried (34). That’s not the horror part, apparently.
Easily fails the Age/2+7 rule.
https://www.facebook.com/208537923265/posts/10159814840303266/?sfnsn=mo&d=n&vh=e
Sarah Cooper is a treasure
captain_spalding said:
Here’s the question:Who remembers Miller’s?
Can you be more specific?
sarahs mum said:
My dad drank DA.
was he a vampire?
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
We’re about to watch a horror movie starring Kevin Bacon (61) and Amanda Seyfried (34). That’s not the horror part, apparently.
Easily fails the Age/2+7 rule.
Should be more movies about child brides.
dv said:
captain_spalding said:
Here’s the question:Who remembers Miller’s?
Can you be more specific?
I’m tipping he doesn’t mean the tale.
Divine Angel said:
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
We’re about to watch a horror movie starring Kevin Bacon (61) and Amanda Seyfried (34). That’s not the horror part, apparently.
Easily fails the Age/2+7 rule.
Should be more movies about child brides.
>Looks alarmed, but not alert<
Go on…?
Is it legal or appropriate for the employees of government agencies to apply to join social media pages by pretending that they’re not employees of said agencies?
I have read the public servant’s code of conduct and I don’t recall anything specific about it. Certainly there’s statements about misrepresentation and such, but….
The Rev Dodgson said:
captain_spalding said:
Anyone here use Tik-Tok?https://www.boredpanda.com/tik-tok-reverse-engineered-data-information-collecting/?utm_source=smartnews&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=organic
Never ‘eard of it.
Oh, it’s a phone app. That explains a lot.
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:
Here’s the question:Who remembers Miller’s?
The American Millers?
Used to be aggressively marketed and frequently on special here for a while in the early 2000s. I bought it every now and again when it was on special, they used to sell dozen in a box which nobody else much did. It was inoffensive but nothing really great. When it went up to premium prices people stopped buying it.
I like because it is a light refreshing beer, but on a hot day can consume more than I should.
Divine Angel said:
We’re about to watch a horror movie starring Kevin Bacon (61) and Amanda Seyfried (34). That’s not the horror part, apparently.
Amanda Seyfried was in Jennifer’s Body, a 2009 horror film that wasn’t bad (as horror films go.)
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
Rule 303 said:Easily fails the Age/2+7 rule.
Should be more movies about child brides.
>Looks alarmed, but not alert<
Go on…?
You mean, a movie about aborigines?
mollwollfumble said:
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:Should be more movies about child brides.
>Looks alarmed, but not alert<
Go on…?
You mean, a movie about
aboriginesmost societies, who allow marriage under 18?
Maria called it tarn porn.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-27/hobart-disappearing-tarn-popularity-on-social-media/12399072
Rule 303 said:
dv said:
captain_spalding said:
Here’s the question:Who remembers Miller’s?
Can you be more specific?
I’m tipping he doesn’t mean the tale.
It was a Sydney beer until the late 60s.
Before my drinking age, but it was the brewery to which the pub across the road from my grandma’s house was linked.
To think, i could have bought her house for the price of a kitchen renovation these days, and had a pub across the road. I could have fallen out of the door of the pub, and landed on my own doorstep.
mollwollfumble said:
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:Should be more movies about child brides.
>Looks alarmed, but not alert<
Go on…?
You mean, a movie about aborigines?
We have a number of cultures living in Australia these days who think child brides are a good thing and some even favour female genital mutilation. Think about it moll, because when it comes to Australia’s indigenous people, your comments can be very offensive.
general
The Kevin Bacon movie was dumb. Now watching a classic, Apollo 13.
SCIENCE said:
general
broadly
Divine Angel said:
The Kevin Bacon movie was dumb. Now watching a classic, Apollo 13.
Now, THAT is a shit-hot picture.
The Apollo blast-off is models and CGI, i know, but it makes my knees tremble.
Really says ’7.5 million pounds of thrust’.
Divine Angel said:
The Kevin Bacon movie was dumb. Now watching a classic, Apollo 13.
What’s that one about?
sibeen said:
Divine Angel said:
The Kevin Bacon movie was dumb. Now watching a classic, Apollo 13.
What’s that one about?
Does the hero and heroine ratio meet or exceed the age/2+7 rule?
sibeen said:
Divine Angel said:
The Kevin Bacon movie was dumb. Now watching a classic, Apollo 13.
What’s that one about?
The first KB movie was about a family who rent a house in Wales and think its haunted. It’s supposed to be a psychological thriller but it never really went anywhere. At least it was self-reflexive and mentioned Kevin and Amanda’s age difference every 5 minutes.
I’m gonna assume you know what Apollo 13 is about.
Divine Angel said:
sibeen said:
Divine Angel said:
The Kevin Bacon movie was dumb. Now watching a classic, Apollo 13.
What’s that one about?
The first KB movie was about a family who rent a house in Wales and think its haunted. It’s supposed to be a psychological thriller but it never really went anywhere. At least it was self-reflexive and mentioned Kevin and Amanda’s age difference every 5 minutes.
I’m gonna assume you know what Apollo 13 is about.
Some Greek god thing I suppose.
Just finished the second (last) episode of The Pale Horse. I’ve never read the Agatha Christie book it’s based on, but I gather it’s nothing like the book anyway. I found the miniseries confusing and garbled.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pale_Horse_(2020_miniseries)
I have a pathological fear of hallways. My childhood home had one, my bedroom was at the end of it. The carpet made a sound when someone walked on it. One night, when my parents and sister were asleep, I swear to god I heard someone walking up the hallway.
The hallway was long and dark, and the light switch was at the bedroom end, not the living room end. I used to pay my sister 20 cents to run up and turn on the light before I went to the toilet, which was halfway up the hallway.
The Kevin Bacon movie about the Welsh house had a lot of frigging hallways. Other than that, I score it zero on the scare scale.
sibeen said:
Divine Angel said:
sibeen said:What’s that one about?
The first KB movie was about a family who rent a house in Wales and think its haunted. It’s supposed to be a psychological thriller but it never really went anywhere. At least it was self-reflexive and mentioned Kevin and Amanda’s age difference every 5 minutes.
I’m gonna assume you know what Apollo 13 is about.
Some Greek god thing I suppose.
From memory, it’s Tom Hanks on a space mission that went wrong. When he finally gets home, he discovers that his wife had married someone else in his absence.
buffy said:
Just finished the second (last) episode of The Pale Horse. I’ve never read the Agatha Christie book it’s based on, but I gather it’s nothing like the book anyway. I found the miniseries confusing and garbled.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pale_Horse_(2020_miniseries)
Good
Not just me then.
Speedy said:
sibeen said:
Divine Angel said:The first KB movie was about a family who rent a house in Wales and think its haunted. It’s supposed to be a psychological thriller but it never really went anywhere. At least it was self-reflexive and mentioned Kevin and Amanda’s age difference every 5 minutes.
I’m gonna assume you know what Apollo 13 is about.
Some Greek god thing I suppose.
From memory, it’s Tom Hanks on a space mission that went wrong. When he finally gets home, he discovers that his wife had married someone else in his absence.
Wasn’t there some apes in there as well?
Speedy said:
sibeen said:
Divine Angel said:The first KB movie was about a family who rent a house in Wales and think its haunted. It’s supposed to be a psychological thriller but it never really went anywhere. At least it was self-reflexive and mentioned Kevin and Amanda’s age difference every 5 minutes.
I’m gonna assume you know what Apollo 13 is about.
Some Greek god thing I suppose.
From memory, it’s Tom Hanks on a space mission that went wrong. When he finally gets home, he discovers that his wife had married someone else in his absence.
but he hooked up with a nut called wilson. happy ending.
Divine Angel said:
I have a pathological fear of hallways. My childhood home had one, my bedroom was at the end of it. The carpet made a sound when someone walked on it. One night, when my parents and sister were asleep, I swear to god I heard someone walking up the hallway.The hallway was long and dark, and the light switch was at the bedroom end, not the living room end. I used to pay my sister 20 cents to run up and turn on the light before I went to the toilet, which was halfway up the hallway.
The Kevin Bacon movie about the Welsh house had a lot of frigging hallways. Other than that, I score it zero on the scare scale.
I read a thing about hallways and psychogeography once. I don’t remember the author.
sibeen said:
Speedy said:
sibeen said:Some Greek god thing I suppose.
From memory, it’s Tom Hanks on a space mission that went wrong. When he finally gets home, he discovers that his wife had married someone else in his absence.
Wasn’t there some apes in there as well?
And aliens with towels?
Speedy said:
sibeen said:
Divine Angel said:The first KB movie was about a family who rent a house in Wales and think its haunted. It’s supposed to be a psychological thriller but it never really went anywhere. At least it was self-reflexive and mentioned Kevin and Amanda’s age difference every 5 minutes.
I’m gonna assume you know what Apollo 13 is about.
Some Greek god thing I suppose.
From memory, it’s Tom Hanks on a space mission that went wrong. When he finally gets home, he discovers that his wife had married someone else in his absence.
The first wife then went on a jaunt to a colony of axe-wielding mutants living in hills with eyes.
YOU FUCKING BEAUTY!!!!!
Got any anti faint pills left, Mr Beeny Boy?
I’m not sure my heart can handle too much more of this, Woodie :)
sibeen said:
YOU FUCKING BEAUTY!!!!!
Won it by ——>.<———— that much!
Last three games:
Lost by a point
Won by two points
Won by a point
Don’t they realise I’ve already had a heart attack.
sibeen said:
Last three games:Lost by a point
Won by two points
Won by a pointDon’t they realise I’ve already had a heart attack.
Perhaps you could email them.
Never mind, Mr Panty Parts. There’s always next week…….. or the week after ……….. or the week after that..
Gold Coast second on the ladder. I doubt many picked that at the start of the season.
Woodie said:
Never mind, Mr Panty Parts. There’s always next week…….. or the week after ……….. or the week after that..
Hey what?
I haven’t watched a single game since they restarted the season. I’m on furlough till next year already. Some handy practice matches for the new coach, that’s about it.
sibeen said:
Gold Coast second on the ladder. I doubt many picked that at the start of the season.
I picked ‘em in me footy tips.
Woodie said:
Never mind, Mr Panty Parts. There’s always next week…….. or the week after ……….. or the week after that..
baryons will be dead in 10100 years.
Bogsnorkler said:
Woodie said:
Never mind, Mr Panty Parts. There’s always next week…….. or the week after ……….. or the week after that..
baryons will be dead in 10100 years.
Just after that I’ll probably manage to slip in that I went to kindergarten with Steve Irwin.
Rule 303 said:
‘Nude porn’ ? There’s clothed porn?
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Woodie said:
Never mind, Mr Panty Parts. There’s always next week…….. or the week after ……….. or the week after that..
baryons will be dead in 10100 years.
Just after that I’ll probably manage to slip in that I went to kindergarten with Steve Irwin.
did you? wow. did you feed his python?
poikilotherm said:
Rule 303 said:
‘Nude porn’ ? There’s clothed porn?
there is every type of porn. what kind are you particularly interested in?
poikilotherm said:
Rule 303 said:
‘Nude porn’ ? There’s clothed porn?
I was going to question this one. Are nude model photographs the same as porn? I though porn was more about depicting sexual acts.
party_pants said:
poikilotherm said:
Rule 303 said:
‘Nude porn’ ? There’s clothed porn?
I was going to question this one. Are nude model photographs the same as porn? I though porn was more about depicting sexual acts.
Nah, It’s bullshit and the person who put it together would know that. But hey, who cares, right.
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
poikilotherm said:‘Nude porn’ ? There’s clothed porn?
I was going to question this one. Are nude model photographs the same as porn? I though porn was more about depicting sexual acts.
Nah, It’s bullshit and the person who put it together would know that. But hey, who cares, right.
This could have been made any time within the last 3 years. I think I’ve seen it before.
And now MrsRule’s watching a movie that she describes as ‘A piss-take on Eurovision’, which is… ugh, I don’t know… Difficult?
I always thought Eurovision was pretty much a piss-take on the music industry?
poikilotherm said:
Rule 303 said:
‘Nude porn’ ? There’s clothed porn?
Sure. I guess.
They say if you can imagine it, there’s porn of it.

Fiddler from St Nonna’s Church, Cornwall, early 16th century. The square fiddle he plays is very similar to those found on the wreck of the Mary Rose.

Bubblecar said:
Fiddler from St Nonna’s Church, Cornwall, early 16th century. The square fiddle he plays is very similar to those found on the wreck of the Mary Rose.
nice
Bubblecar said:
Fiddler from St Nonna’s Church, Cornwall, early 16th century. The square fiddle he plays is very similar to those found on the wreck of the Mary Rose.
Bagpiper from the same church. Both carved by Robert Daye, c. 1530.

There are 80 or more such carvings in St Nonna’s, all reputedly by Daye. Carved on panels at the end of each pew.

Bubblecar said:
There are 80 or more such carvings in St Nonna’s, all reputedly by Daye. Carved on panels at the end of each pew.
Is she the patron saint of all grandmothers?
sibeen said:
Bubblecar said:
There are 80 or more such carvings in St Nonna’s, all reputedly by Daye. Carved on panels at the end of each pew.
Is she the patron saint of all grandmothers?
Only in Italy.
Bubblecar said:
There are 80 or more such carvings in St Nonna’s, all reputedly by Daye. Carved on panels at the end of each pew.
So much more tasteful than what was rocking on the continent.
Early midnight snack. A chip butty. Its been a long time. the dog ate a quarter of it. He approved.
sarahs mum said:
Early midnight snack. A chip butty. Its been a long time. the dog ate a quarter of it. He approved.
:)
I scoffed a toasted English fruit muffin with vintage cheddar about half an hour ago.
Just been recording some rebec improvisations.
Pretty cold here, heading for -2 tonight. I’ll be in bed shortly.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Early midnight snack. A chip butty. Its been a long time. the dog ate a quarter of it. He approved.
:)
I scoffed a toasted English fruit muffin with vintage cheddar about half an hour ago.
Just been recording some rebec improvisations.
Pretty cold here, heading for -2 tonight. I’ll be in bed shortly.
My fire is just going out. It will be warm for another hour or two.
I built a guitar out of a shelf during lockdown !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXdKAwHSe6M
sarahs mum said:
I built a guitar out of a shelf during lockdown !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXdKAwHSe6M
Who uses furniture grade 290“x42” kiln-dried hardwood to build a shelf?! That’s like $250 worth of timber.
Rule 303 said:
sarahs mum said:
I built a guitar out of a shelf during lockdown !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXdKAwHSe6M
Who uses furniture grade 290“x42” kiln-dried hardwood to build a shelf?! That’s like $250 worth of timber.
Doesn’t everybody?
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
sarahs mum said:
I built a guitar out of a shelf during lockdown !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXdKAwHSe6M
Who uses furniture grade 290“x42” kiln-dried hardwood to build a shelf?! That’s like $250 worth of timber.
Doesn’t everybody?
Nah.
Rule 303 said:
sarahs mum said:
I built a guitar out of a shelf during lockdown !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXdKAwHSe6M
Who uses furniture grade 290“x42” kiln-dried hardwood to build a shelf?! That’s like $250 worth of timber.
I can imagine at some stage some Tasmanians will pull out their slab kitchens and do something with them.
sarahs mum said:
Rule 303 said:
sarahs mum said:
I built a guitar out of a shelf during lockdown !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXdKAwHSe6M
Who uses furniture grade 290“x42” kiln-dried hardwood to build a shelf?! That’s like $250 worth of timber.
I can imagine at some stage some Tasmanians will pull out their slab kitchens and do something with them.
The timberwork in the video is extremely technical, from a fastidious craftsman who has spent decades refining his craft, and has thousands and thousands of dollars worth of machinery. This guy’s a professional guitar builder. People might try that with their kitchen, but it will sound like a $50 Chinese copy of a cheap guitar, it will be untunable, unplayable, and unsellable.
Rule 303 said:
sarahs mum said:
Rule 303 said:Who uses furniture grade 290“x42” kiln-dried hardwood to build a shelf?! That’s like $250 worth of timber.
I can imagine at some stage some Tasmanians will pull out their slab kitchens and do something with them.
The timberwork in the video is extremely technical, from a fastidious craftsman who has spent decades refining his craft, and has thousands and thousands of dollars worth of machinery. This guy’s a professional guitar builder. People might try that with their kitchen, but it will sound like a $50 Chinese copy of a cheap guitar, it will be untunable, unplayable, and unsellable.
I posted it because I thought he was doing a beautiful job.
But the who uses that sort of timber for a shelf? made me think of certain kitchens with what was thousands of dollars of timber slabs a couple of decades ago. At some stage it will be economical to mine those kitchens.
sarahs mum said:
Rule 303 said:
sarahs mum said:I can imagine at some stage some Tasmanians will pull out their slab kitchens and do something with them.
The timberwork in the video is extremely technical, from a fastidious craftsman who has spent decades refining his craft, and has thousands and thousands of dollars worth of machinery. This guy’s a professional guitar builder. People might try that with their kitchen, but it will sound like a $50 Chinese copy of a cheap guitar, it will be untunable, unplayable, and unsellable.
I posted it because I thought he was doing a beautiful job.
But the who uses that sort of timber for a shelf? made me think of certain kitchens with what was thousands of dollars of timber slabs a couple of decades ago. At some stage it will be economical to mine those kitchens.
Nobody will put second-hand timber through a large thicknesser unless you’re willing to run a good metal detector over it while they watch. Even then, you’re still at risk. Your timber buggers one blade and you might have well bought yourself a Gibson gold top -The cost would be about the same. It’s never just one blade….
I’ve been down this road (with furniture timbers). I’ve got mates who build guitars in their sheds. It’s a good passtime and they get a lot of satisfaction out of producing unplayable junk.
Morning.
14 at the moment, heading for a showery top of 19.
MIL is coming over today. Partly to see us and partly to have a shower because her bathroom is currently undergoing a renovation. No toilet or shower for a few days.
Divine Angel said:
Morning.14 at the moment, heading for a showery top of 19.
MIL is coming over today. Partly to see us and partly to have a shower because her bathroom is currently undergoing a renovation. No toilet or shower for a few days.
A nice pleasant -1.5° here. At various times I’ve had no power, no gas, and no water; the first two are easily accommodated — even both at once — but I was surprised at how much impact a lack of running water has.
Good morning Holidayers. Presently about 1 outside the back door, but looking across at the park, which is lower down, I can see frost. The sun is kind of trying to come above the horizon at the moment. Our forecast for today is for a sunny 14.
I plan to cut down the asparagus and prune the fruit trees today. And chip the resulting prunings. That should be enough to do for one day. And as I had my jumper off yesterday, I expect the same will be the case today while I am working. Fourteen is definitely not cold.
btm said:
Divine Angel said:
Morning.14 at the moment, heading for a showery top of 19.
MIL is coming over today. Partly to see us and partly to have a shower because her bathroom is currently undergoing a renovation. No toilet or shower for a few days.
A nice pleasant -1.5° here. At various times I’ve had no power, no gas, and no water; the first two are easily accommodated — even both at once — but I was surprised at how much impact a lack of running water has.
got plenty of all three here, though you’ll need a bucket for the running water. been rain all night and still a happening thing.
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently about 1 outside the back door, but looking across at the park, which is lower down, I can see frost. The sun is kind of trying to come above the horizon at the moment. Our forecast for today is for a sunny 14.I plan to cut down the asparagus and prune the fruit trees today. And chip the resulting prunings. That should be enough to do for one day. And as I had my jumper off yesterday, I expect the same will be the case today while I am working. Fourteen is definitely not cold.
Brass monkeys here, too.
Did you catch my chat about us discovering a bird flying around our lounge room yesterday arvo? Wattlebird.
buffy said:
Fourteen is definitely not cold.
I beg to differ 😛
It’s still -1 here, that’s a bit nippy.
Be making a hot breakfast shortly.
mollwollfumble said:
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently about 1 outside the back door, but looking across at the park, which is lower down, I can see frost. The sun is kind of trying to come above the horizon at the moment. Our forecast for today is for a sunny 14.I plan to cut down the asparagus and prune the fruit trees today. And chip the resulting prunings. That should be enough to do for one day. And as I had my jumper off yesterday, I expect the same will be the case today while I am working. Fourteen is definitely not cold.
Brass monkeys here, too.
Did you catch my chat about us discovering a bird flying around our lounge room yesterday arvo? Wattlebird.
Yes. How did it get in there? We used to get birds down the flue of the woodheater in Hawkesdale during Summer. So they arrived in the kitchen. You had to shut the door, open a window and then let them out of the firebox. Usually they headed straight for the window, but sometimes you had to herd them. Sometimes we had to chase them around with the birdnet that we had for the budgies, cockatiels and caged small parrots. But as the ceilings were 12’ high, that was rather comical.
Bubblecar said:
It’s still -1 here, that’s a bit nippy.Be making a hot breakfast shortly.
Morning all.
21° here in Cairns with RH of 78%. It’s hell in the tropics.
buffy said:
Good morning Holidayers. Presently about 1 outside the back door, but looking across at the park, which is lower down, I can see frost. The sun is kind of trying to come above the horizon at the moment. Our forecast for today is for a sunny 14.I plan to cut down the asparagus and prune the fruit trees today. And chip the resulting prunings. That should be enough to do for one day. And as I had my jumper off yesterday, I expect the same will be the case today while I am working. Fourteen is definitely not cold.
Good morning everyone.
Fourteen is quite cold enough for here, thank you very much.
It’s currently 15.7°C, 78% RH and clear with gusty strong breezes. It feels chilly. BoM tells me to expect a top of 20°C, and that there’s a 60% chance of rain, right throughout the day. The radar is certainly showing some rain around. But it’s not happening here.
Wontons and dumplings to be made today. Trying chicken mince this time.
Morning pilgrims.
It’s overcast and cold at the redoubt.
Ross people will be here at 1 to take me to the Pontville party.
In the meantime I’ll have a shower, do the washing up and undertake some arse-sitting.
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
It’s still -1 here, that’s a bit nippy.Be making a hot breakfast shortly.
Morning all.
21° here in Cairns with RH of 78%. It’s hell in the tropics.
Actually night temps that don’t go under 20 are a type of hell for me. I was quite comfy in the unheated back room snuggled under a light doona. I did have a light weight merino jumper on with my t-shirt and jogger pants, and some woollen Explorer socks.
Eating reheated butter chicken from Friday night for brunch now. Bruna and I went for a walk to the base of Mt Rouse and back. It’s only about 3km round trip. I’m not up to fast walking or over the mountain at the moment – damn moving over heavy plant pots about 10 days ago. My lower back is not impressed. At least I must have lifted them evenly, both sides of my lower back muscles are complaining.
buffy said:
Tamb said:
Bubblecar said:
It’s still -1 here, that’s a bit nippy.Be making a hot breakfast shortly.
Morning all.
21° here in Cairns with RH of 78%. It’s hell in the tropics.
Actually night temps that don’t go under 20 are a type of hell for me. I was quite comfy in the unheated back room snuggled under a light doona. I did have a light weight merino jumper on with my t-shirt and jogger pants, and some woollen Explorer socks.
24° is when I stop wearing shorts.
The Rev Dodgson said:
buffy said:
Just finished the second (last) episode of The Pale Horse. I’ve never read the Agatha Christie book it’s based on, but I gather it’s nothing like the book anyway. I found the miniseries confusing and garbled.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pale_Horse_(2020_miniseries)
Good
Not just me then.
Thank you. That’s at least 3 of us…you, me and Mr buffy. I suspect it was just being too clever by half and in the process lost the plot.
NSW buys outback station in state’s largest single property purchase for a national park.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-27/narriearra-station-sold-to-become-national-park-in-nsw/12400344
Well there’s some good news for today.
Morning, mildly warm in the Styx at 5.1.
Ow. That stings.

captain_spalding said:
Ow. That stings.
harsh
It’s now 8 degrees. I’m about to remove my jumper because pruning the apple tree was starting to make me sweat. I’ll hang out the sheets now and then get out the chipper for the prunings. I think I enjoy pruning the citrus better than pruning the apple. Smells nicer.
buffy said:
It’s now 8 degrees. I’m about to remove my jumper because pruning the apple tree was starting to make me sweat. I’ll hang out the sheets now and then get out the chipper for the prunings. I think I enjoy pruning the citrus better than pruning the apple. Smells nicer.
You should be livestreaming this on tiktok
dv said:
buffy said:
It’s now 8 degrees. I’m about to remove my jumper because pruning the apple tree was starting to make me sweat. I’ll hang out the sheets now and then get out the chipper for the prunings. I think I enjoy pruning the citrus better than pruning the apple. Smells nicer.You should be livestreaming this on tiktok
Oh no, I only supply a running commentary for the privileged here.
:)
buffy said:
It’s now 8 degrees. I’m about to remove my jumper because pruning the apple tree was starting to make me sweat. I’ll hang out the sheets now and then get out the chipper for the prunings. I think I enjoy pruning the citrus better than pruning the apple. Smells nicer.
Still only 3 degrees here. Heading for a max of 9, supposedly.
buffy said:
dv said:
buffy said:
It’s now 8 degrees. I’m about to remove my jumper because pruning the apple tree was starting to make me sweat. I’ll hang out the sheets now and then get out the chipper for the prunings. I think I enjoy pruning the citrus better than pruning the apple. Smells nicer.You should be livestreaming this on tiktok
Oh no, I only supply a running commentary for the privileged here.
:)
Thank you. :)
buffy said:
dv said:
buffy said:
It’s now 8 degrees. I’m about to remove my jumper because pruning the apple tree was starting to make me sweat. I’ll hang out the sheets now and then get out the chipper for the prunings. I think I enjoy pruning the citrus better than pruning the apple. Smells nicer.You should be livestreaming this on tiktok
Oh no, I only supply a running commentary for the privileged here.
:)
DV is not worthy!
Screendump from facebook.

mollwollfumble said:
Screendump from facebook.
I have questions
mollwollfumble said:
Screendump from facebook.
I want one.
Not the launcher
Just the rocket powered chainsaw
Tau.Neutrino said:
mollwollfumble said:
Screendump from facebook.
I want one.
Not the launcher
Just the rocket powered chainsaw
I can put on my “jet pack” and fly around prune the trees more easily with the rocket chainsaw.
dv said:
mollwollfumble said:
Screendump from facebook.
I have questions
I’m not sure I can find the questions to which this is the answer.
mollwollfumble said:
Screendump from facebook.
Well I for one like it.
mollwollfumble said:
Screendump from facebook.
Its a good idea.
I suppose I’d better get dressed for the party.
Spiny Norman said:
mollwollfumble said:
Screendump from facebook.
Well I for one like it.
Except you put the chain on back-to-front…
Michael V said:
Spiny Norman said:
mollwollfumble said:
Screendump from facebook.
Well I for one like it.
Except you put the chain on back-to-front…
That has been mentioned.
Bubblecar said:
I suppose I’d better get dressed for the party.
Done. Blue & white floral shirt, navy blue trousers, navy blue waistcoat, royal blue jacket, shiny black shoes.
Spiny Norman said:
Michael V said:
Spiny Norman said:Well I for one like it.
Except you put the chain on back-to-front…
That has been mentioned.
Is it completely safe? Seems like someone could get hurt.
dv said:
Spiny Norman said:
Michael V said:Except you put the chain on back-to-front…
That has been mentioned.
Is it completely safe? Seems like someone could get hurt.
Only with the safety switch off.
dv said:
Spiny Norman said:
Michael V said:Except you put the chain on back-to-front…
That has been mentioned.
Is it completely safe? Seems like someone could get hurt.
It’s been tested on rabbits and can cause a rash on susceptible skin types.
dv said:
Spiny Norman said:
Michael V said:Except you put the chain on back-to-front…
That has been mentioned.
Is it completely safe? Seems like someone could get hurt.
It’s this sort of mollycoddling that is bound to lead to the demise of western civilisation.
MIL, Mr Mutant, and Mini Me have gone to Bunnings. I’m not a fan of Bunnings, I get my kicks from going to Officeworks.
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
I suppose I’d better get dressed for the party.
Done. Blue & white floral shirt, navy blue trousers, navy blue waistcoat, royal blue jacket, shiny black shoes.
Sounds dapper.
Wish your sis a happy birthday from us at the HF and don’t forget to take the pie!
In other news, I learned that Mrs Kennedy’s pink suit with JFK’s blood on it is in storage and won’t be seen by the public until at least 2103.
https://edition.cnn.com/2013/11/21/us/jacqueline-kennedy-pink-suit/index.html
Perhaps by then they can clone him and call it JFK Park.
The World’s Greatest Gallery of Seductive Radishes
https://www.sadanduseless.com/radish-hotness/
sarahs mum said:
The World’s Greatest Gallery of Seductive Radishes
https://www.sadanduseless.com/radish-hotness/
Just radishing
dv said:
dv said:
Maths.
captain_spalding said:
dv said:
Maths.
dv said:
Well it’s possible the guy who wrote the headline was joking.
Isn’t it?
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
Well it’s possible the guy who wrote the headline was joking.
Isn’t it?
Let’s go with that
Tamb said:
dv said:
It shows in their preference for fractions instead of decimals.
LOL
Anyway, the chicken and vegetable Wontons (21) and dumplings (24) are now made.
I think I might go make a soup for lunch.
PermeateFree said:
Nice one.
:)
sarahs mum said:
The World’s Greatest Gallery of Seductive Radishes
https://www.sadanduseless.com/radish-hotness/
LOLOL
Tamb said:
dv said:
Tamb said:Looks like bs to me.
They still have a huge gun problem & Afghanistan is still at war so I don’t see the health care system being given the overhaul it needs.Christ, man …
That’s the point of the tweet.
Oh Duh. Brain fade. Lack of alcohol.
I’d be blaming the Cairns humidity :)
How’s it going up there?
Academia just recommended a paper for me
Manure and middens in English place-names, by Paul Cullen and Richard Jones
I mean I have to admit I am a bit curious
Speedy said:
Tamb said:
dv said:Christ, man …
That’s the point of the tweet.
Oh Duh. Brain fade. Lack of alcohol.I’d be blaming the Cairns humidity :)
How’s it going up there?
dv said:
Academia just recommended a paper for meManure and middens in English place-names, by Paul Cullen and Richard Jones
I mean I have to admit I am a bit curious
Sounds like a pile of bullshit to me.
dv said:
Academia just recommended a paper for meManure and middens in English place-names, by Paul Cullen and Richard Jones
I mean I have to admit I am a bit curious
Like Dungeness.
Tamb said:
dv said:
Academia just recommended a paper for meManure and middens in English place-names, by Paul Cullen and Richard Jones
I mean I have to admit I am a bit curious
Like Dungeness.
What’s that county name?
Middensex.
That sounds a bit kinky.
Tamb said:
Speedy said:
Tamb said:Oh Duh. Brain fade. Lack of alcohol.
I’d be blaming the Cairns humidity :)
How’s it going up there?
Very pleasant. 26° & 59% RH. Cairns in winter has a great climate.
Cairns: A winter wonderland :)
I spent 3 weeks there in December 1994 and we were not allowed to swim because of the stingers. It was hot and I was sunburnt for much of that time, so to imagine that it can be a pleasant place is a stretch. Same for Darwin.
Tamb said:
Speedy said:
Tamb said:Oh Duh. Brain fade. Lack of alcohol.
I’d be blaming the Cairns humidity :)
How’s it going up there?
Very pleasant. 26° & 59% RH. Cairns in winter has a great climate.
Cairns: A winter wonderland :)
I spent 3 weeks there in December 1994 and we were not allowed to swim because of the stingers. It was hot and I was sunburnt for much of that time, so to imagine that it can be a pleasant place is a stretch. Same for Darwin.
Speedy said:
Tamb said:
Speedy said:I’d be blaming the Cairns humidity :)
How’s it going up there?
Very pleasant. 26° & 59% RH. Cairns in winter has a great climate.Cairns: A winter wonderland :)
I spent 3 weeks there in December 1994 and we were not allowed to swim because of the stingers. It was hot and I was sunburnt for much of that time, so to imagine that it can be a pleasant place is a stretch. Same for Darwin.
Speedy said:
Tamb said:
Speedy said:I’d be blaming the Cairns humidity :)
How’s it going up there?
Very pleasant. 26° & 59% RH. Cairns in winter has a great climate.Cairns: A winter wonderland :)
I spent 3 weeks there in December 1994 and we were not allowed to swim because of the stingers. It was hot and I was sunburnt for much of that time, so to imagine that it can be a pleasant place is a stretch. Same for Darwin.
I’m blame Hannah for that double post.
Tamb said:
Speedy said:
Tamb said:Very pleasant. 26° & 59% RH. Cairns in winter has a great climate.
Cairns: A winter wonderland :)
I spent 3 weeks there in December 1994 and we were not allowed to swim because of the stingers. It was hot and I was sunburnt for much of that time, so to imagine that it can be a pleasant place is a stretch. Same for Darwin.
December is summer. June/July is winter.
Now slow down egghead

I must say I really enjoyed my luncheon clear soup. Wombok, mixed mushrooms, mung-bean glass noodles, Chinese vegetable broth stock and various spices.
Afternoon tea: leek and potato and golden beetroot soup. The beetroot has definitely given an earth tone in the flavour. It’s not as yellow as I thought it would come out though.
Michael V said:
I must say I really enjoyed my luncheon clear soup. Wombok, mixed mushrooms, mung-bean glass noodles, Chinese vegetable broth stock and various spices.
i got some laksa stock the other day. haven’t tried it yet.
buffy said:
Afternoon tea: leek and potato and golden beetroot soup. The beetroot has definitely given an earth tone in the flavour. It’s not as yellow as I thought it would come out though.
Hot or cold?
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
I must say I really enjoyed my luncheon clear soup. Wombok, mixed mushrooms, mung-bean glass noodles, Chinese vegetable broth stock and various spices.
i got some laksa stock the other day. haven’t tried it yet.
Let us know how it goes.
Rule 303 said:
buffy said:
Afternoon tea: leek and potato and golden beetroot soup. The beetroot has definitely given an earth tone in the flavour. It’s not as yellow as I thought it would come out though.Hot or cold?
Hot.
I’ve had a bulk pack of chicken thighs in the slow cooker for about six hours, with Passata and garlic. I’m goin to split them between a simple Italian chicken tomato pasta for tonight, and two meals of spicy chicken curry to go in the freezer.
Nom nom nom….
We are having nachos tonight. I made the tomato/avocado/onion salsa a few hours ago. It’s melding on the bench. I haven’t bothered making proper guacamole for years. We are just as happy with the salsa. Hmm, just looked at a guacamole recipe – lime juice sounds like a good thing to drizzle in. I’ll do that. I’ve got limes.
buffy said:
We are having nachos tonight. I made the tomato/avocado/onion salsa a few hours ago. It’s melding on the bench. I haven’t bothered making proper guacamole for years. We are just as happy with the salsa. Hmm, just looked at a guacamole recipe – lime juice sounds like a good thing to drizzle in. I’ll do that. I’ve got limes.
>nods<
Definitely needs the lime.
HIIT for someone with dodgy knees (so can’t run), no bicycle skills and no year-round access to a pool.
Any ideas?
Michael V said:
HIIT for someone with dodgy knees (so can’t run), no bicycle skills and no year-round access to a pool.Any ideas?
alcohol.
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
HIIT for someone with dodgy knees (so can’t run), no bicycle skills and no year-round access to a pool.Any ideas?
alcohol.
Helpful, thanks.
Michael V said:
HIIT for someone with dodgy knees (so can’t run), no bicycle skills and no year-round access to a pool.Any ideas?
Exercise bike.
Low impact weight training or bodyweight training exercises.
party_pants said:
Michael V said:
HIIT for someone with dodgy knees (so can’t run), no bicycle skills and no year-round access to a pool.Any ideas?
Exercise bike.
Low impact weight training or bodyweight training exercises.
Ta.
party_pants said:
Michael V said:
HIIT for someone with dodgy knees (so can’t run), no bicycle skills and no year-round access to a pool.Any ideas?
Exercise bike.
Low impact weight training or bodyweight training exercises.
Yeppers with the exercise bike. I put on a video or youtube some crap on the ipad and trundle away for ages.
Rule 303 said:
buffy said:
We are having nachos tonight. I made the tomato/avocado/onion salsa a few hours ago. It’s melding on the bench. I haven’t bothered making proper guacamole for years. We are just as happy with the salsa. Hmm, just looked at a guacamole recipe – lime juice sounds like a good thing to drizzle in. I’ll do that. I’ve got limes.>nods<
Definitely needs the lime.
and the tequila and salt :)
I’m thinking something experimental for dinner. We haven’t done a grocery shop yet; Mr Mutant wants to wait til Wednesday.
Why Wednesday? Aldi has their American “candy” sale on then. I love Junior Mints.
kryten said:
Rule 303 said:
buffy said:
We are having nachos tonight. I made the tomato/avocado/onion salsa a few hours ago. It’s melding on the bench. I haven’t bothered making proper guacamole for years. We are just as happy with the salsa. Hmm, just looked at a guacamole recipe – lime juice sounds like a good thing to drizzle in. I’ll do that. I’ve got limes.>nods<
Definitely needs the lime.
and the tequila and salt :)
no, no, you put de lime in de coconut…
Michael V said:
HIIT for someone with dodgy knees (so can’t run), no bicycle skills and no year-round access to a pool.Any ideas?
Rowing ergometer when you can’t get to the pool, deep water running & beach walking when you can.
kryten said:
Rule 303 said:
buffy said:
We are having nachos tonight. I made the tomato/avocado/onion salsa a few hours ago. It’s melding on the bench. I haven’t bothered making proper guacamole for years. We are just as happy with the salsa. Hmm, just looked at a guacamole recipe – lime juice sounds like a good thing to drizzle in. I’ll do that. I’ve got limes.>nods<
Definitely needs the lime.
and the tequila and salt :)
And Sangria?
sibeen said:
party_pants said:
Michael V said:
HIIT for someone with dodgy knees (so can’t run), no bicycle skills and no year-round access to a pool.Any ideas?
Exercise bike.
Low impact weight training or bodyweight training exercises.
Yeppers with the exercise bike. I put on a video or youtube some crap on the ipad and trundle away for ages.
^
Michael V said:
party_pants said:
Michael V said:
HIIT for someone with dodgy knees (so can’t run), no bicycle skills and no year-round access to a pool.Any ideas?
Exercise bike.
Low impact weight training or bodyweight training exercises.
Ta.
Preferably with at least a 1,000 cc engine.
Rule 303 said:
Michael V said:
HIIT for someone with dodgy knees (so can’t run), no bicycle skills and no year-round access to a pool.Any ideas?
Rowing ergometer when you can’t get to the pool, deep water running & beach walking when you can.
Ta.
I’m inquiring for Mrs V. I should’ve mentioned this. Her knees are dodgy so she can’t run without inducing considerable pain.
Beach walking happens regularly – usually daily, a few km. 1 km to the beach 1 km home, plus 2- 4 km each way along and back on the beach. It doesn’t get her heart rate up enough, and her resting blood pressure is a bit elevated. She doesn’t want to go onto medication. Hence the notion of a bit of HIIT.
She has no bicycle confidence. We’ve tried a bit of re-learning on the grass common in town, but panic sets in. Not good for re-learning. Beach riding would’ve been a good thing, but 4WDs use the beach, which is a concern for a wobbly rider.
She also has no water confidence, and doesn’t like pools anyway. And the pool here is closed for the duration. She’ll get in the water at the beach, if the surf is not rough, and the water is not too deep. Perhaps she can try the deep water running in water to belly depth?
Maybe I can convert one of the bikes into an exercise bike.
Spiny Norman said:
Michael V said:
party_pants said:Exercise bike.
Low impact weight training or bodyweight training exercises.
Ta.
Preferably with at least a 1,000 cc engine.
:)
I hear ya!
:)
Michael V said:
Spiny Norman said:
Michael V said:Ta.
Preferably with at least a 1,000 cc engine.
:)
I hear ya!
:)
she can go pillion, that’ll get her heart rate up!
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
Spiny Norman said:Preferably with at least a 1,000 cc engine.
:)
I hear ya!
:)
she can go pillion, that’ll get her heart rate up!
She only ever goes pillion. She can’t ride a motorbike. Unfortunately, my body is not yet recovered enough to get my leg over a motorbike yet. Much as I’d love to.
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said::)
I hear ya!
:)
she can go pillion, that’ll get her heart rate up!
She only ever goes pillion. She can’t ride a motorbike. Unfortunately, my body is not yet recovered enough to get my leg over a motorbike yet. Much as I’d love to.
things are bad when you can’t get your leg over.
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said::)
I hear ya!
:)
she can go pillion, that’ll get her heart rate up!
She only ever goes pillion. She can’t ride a motorbike. Unfortunately, my body is not yet recovered enough to get my leg over a motorbike yet. Much as I’d love to.
Me or Bill will take her out on it for you.
You’d trust us with both your wife and your motorbike, wouldn’t you?
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:she can go pillion, that’ll get her heart rate up!
She only ever goes pillion. She can’t ride a motorbike. Unfortunately, my body is not yet recovered enough to get my leg over a motorbike yet. Much as I’d love to.
things are bad when you can’t get your leg over.
Tell me about it!
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:she can go pillion, that’ll get her heart rate up!
She only ever goes pillion. She can’t ride a motorbike. Unfortunately, my body is not yet recovered enough to get my leg over a motorbike yet. Much as I’d love to.
Me or Bill will take her out on it for you.
You’d trust us with both your wife and your motorbike, wouldn’t you?
Interesting notion.
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:she can go pillion, that’ll get her heart rate up!
She only ever goes pillion. She can’t ride a motorbike. Unfortunately, my body is not yet recovered enough to get my leg over a motorbike yet. Much as I’d love to.
Me or Bill will take her out on it for you.
You’d trust us with both your wife and your motorbike, wouldn’t you?
Mrs V has actually been on the back seat of my motorbike, for about 400 metres I think.
Spiny Norman said:
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:She only ever goes pillion. She can’t ride a motorbike. Unfortunately, my body is not yet recovered enough to get my leg over a motorbike yet. Much as I’d love to.
Me or Bill will take her out on it for you.
You’d trust us with both your wife and your motorbike, wouldn’t you?
Mrs V has actually been on the back seat of my motorbike, for about 400 metres I think.
What caused her to fall off?
Or did she jump?
captain_spalding said:
Spiny Norman said:
captain_spalding said:Me or Bill will take her out on it for you.
You’d trust us with both your wife and your motorbike, wouldn’t you?
Mrs V has actually been on the back seat of my motorbike, for about 400 metres I think.
What caused her to fall off?
Or did she jump?
LOLs
:)
captain_spalding said:
Spiny Norman said:
captain_spalding said:Me or Bill will take her out on it for you.
You’d trust us with both your wife and your motorbike, wouldn’t you?
Mrs V has actually been on the back seat of my motorbike, for about 400 metres I think.
What caused her to fall off?
Or did she jump?
What happens on the bike stays on the bike.
(or not ….!)
You can get your heart rate up by pushing the walking faster. She could leave you behind…
Or maybe by putting some weight in a pack and carrying that at normal pace?
buffy said:
You can get your heart rate up by pushing the walking faster. She could leave you behind…
Hey….
….no,l

buffy said:
You can get your heart rate up by pushing the walking faster. She could leave you behind…
She does that anyway. But it doesn’t seem to be getting her heart rate up enough. Not enough to be considered HIIT, anyway.
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:
You can get your heart rate up by pushing the walking faster. She could leave you behind…Hey….
….no,l
Whoosh
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:
Michael V said:
HIIT for someone with dodgy knees (so can’t run), no bicycle skills and no year-round access to a pool.Any ideas?
Rowing ergometer when you can’t get to the pool, deep water running & beach walking when you can.
Ta.
I’m inquiring for Mrs V. I should’ve mentioned this. Her knees are dodgy so she can’t run without inducing considerable pain.
Beach walking happens regularly – usually daily, a few km. 1 km to the beach 1 km home, plus 2- 4 km each way along and back on the beach. It doesn’t get her heart rate up enough, and her resting blood pressure is a bit elevated. She doesn’t want to go onto medication. Hence the notion of a bit of HIIT.
She has no bicycle confidence. We’ve tried a bit of re-learning on the grass common in town, but panic sets in. Not good for re-learning. Beach riding would’ve been a good thing, but 4WDs use the beach, which is a concern for a wobbly rider.
She also has no water confidence, and doesn’t like pools anyway. And the pool here is closed for the duration. She’ll get in the water at the beach, if the surf is not rough, and the water is not too deep. Perhaps she can try the deep water running in water to belly depth?
Maybe I can convert one of the bikes into an exercise bike.
The rowing movement has lots of advantages that I wont bore you with, but it’s much better for what you’re describing than a stationary bike, and a lot safer than a normal bike converted to stationary, which can be pretty dangerous if you don’t know what you’re doing.
You will find there’s a steady trade of this gear on Facebook Marketplace and Gumtree and such.
Deep water running is usually done with a flotation vest in a constant-depth swimming pool, where the feet don’t touch the floor, and is ideal for joint recovery in people with good mobility but low joint integrity – but running efforts in waist-deep water at the beach could have some pretty good advantages, too, if she’s up for that.
Rule 303 said:
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:Rowing ergometer when you can’t get to the pool, deep water running & beach walking when you can.
Ta.
I’m inquiring for Mrs V. I should’ve mentioned this. Her knees are dodgy so she can’t run without inducing considerable pain.
Beach walking happens regularly – usually daily, a few km. 1 km to the beach 1 km home, plus 2- 4 km each way along and back on the beach. It doesn’t get her heart rate up enough, and her resting blood pressure is a bit elevated. She doesn’t want to go onto medication. Hence the notion of a bit of HIIT.
She has no bicycle confidence. We’ve tried a bit of re-learning on the grass common in town, but panic sets in. Not good for re-learning. Beach riding would’ve been a good thing, but 4WDs use the beach, which is a concern for a wobbly rider.
She also has no water confidence, and doesn’t like pools anyway. And the pool here is closed for the duration. She’ll get in the water at the beach, if the surf is not rough, and the water is not too deep. Perhaps she can try the deep water running in water to belly depth?
Maybe I can convert one of the bikes into an exercise bike.
The rowing movement has lots of advantages that I wont bore you with, but it’s much better for what you’re describing than a stationary bike, and a lot safer than a normal bike converted to stationary, which can be pretty dangerous if you don’t know what you’re doing.
You will find there’s a steady trade of this gear on Facebook Marketplace and Gumtree and such.
Deep water running is usually done with a flotation vest in a constant-depth swimming pool, where the feet don’t touch the floor, and is ideal for joint recovery in people with good mobility but low joint integrity – but running efforts in waist-deep water at the beach could have some pretty good advantages, too, if she’s up for that.
Ta.
I’d love to have a “Human Gyroscope”. One of those gives a huge low-impact workout. And they’re fun, too.
Rule 303 said:
Deep water running is usually done with a flotation vest in a constant-depth swimming pool, where the feet don’t touch the floor, and is ideal for joint recovery in people with good mobility but low joint integrity – but running efforts in waist-deep water at the beach could have some pretty good advantages, too, if she’s up for that.
How about polishing my car?
You know: ‘Wax on. Wax off. Wax on. Wax off’.
Worked for Ralph Macchio.
Michael V said:
I’d love to have a “Human Gyroscope”. One of those gives a huge low-impact workout. And they’re fun, too.
Just don’t carbo-load beforehand.
captain_spalding said:
Rule 303 said:Deep water running is usually done with a flotation vest in a constant-depth swimming pool, where the feet don’t touch the floor, and is ideal for joint recovery in people with good mobility but low joint integrity – but running efforts in waist-deep water at the beach could have some pretty good advantages, too, if she’s up for that.
How about polishing my car?
You know: ‘Wax on. Wax off. Wax on. Wax off’.
Worked for Ralph Macchio.
Yeah, sounds good.
I thought about suggesting tap dancing. Surprisingly good at getting heart rate up, even at low levels. Also excellent for balance. Not sure about the dodgy knees though. I did some classes, but then I got hold of a book – Inside Tap by Anita Feldman – and picked out the stuff that wasn’t too bouncy or stompy. I treasure my knee joints too. There are also some great YouTubes that I haven’t yet really worked with, but they are simple and interesting. I’ll just have to go to the other computer to find the links.
freezer food tonight. chicken curry, rice and plain dahl.
buffy said:
I thought about suggesting tap dancing. Surprisingly good at getting heart rate up, even at low levels. Also excellent for balance. Not sure about the dodgy knees though. I did some classes, but then I got hold of a book – Inside Tap by Anita Feldman – and picked out the stuff that wasn’t too bouncy or stompy. I treasure my knee joints too. There are also some great YouTubes that I haven’t yet really worked with, but they are simple and interesting. I’ll just have to go to the other computer to find the links.
NOOOOO!
Murder on the knees!
Mrs S. will testify!
She LOVED tap dancing. Can’t do it any more.
Drury Lane Tap.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9LkbY73Wxo
That one is a warmup. There are quite a lot of them, but mostly the warmups are pretty innocuous but get the blood pumping.
kryten said:
Drury Lane Tap.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9LkbY73Wxo
That one is a warmup. There are quite a lot of them, but mostly the warmups are pretty innocuous but get the blood pumping.
Note to self…change computer, change login name…
Obviously that was me, not Mr buffy. No way could he tap.
buffy said:
I thought about suggesting tap dancing. Surprisingly good at getting heart rate up, even at low levels. Also excellent for balance. Not sure about the dodgy knees though. I did some classes, but then I got hold of a book – Inside Tap by Anita Feldman – and picked out the stuff that wasn’t too bouncy or stompy. I treasure my knee joints too. There are also some great YouTubes that I haven’t yet really worked with, but they are simple and interesting. I’ll just have to go to the other computer to find the links.
Mrs V used to do tap dancing in Armidale, and has performed publicly. I haven’t seen her taps for ages.
buffy said:
kryten said:
Drury Lane Tap.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9LkbY73Wxo
That one is a warmup. There are quite a lot of them, but mostly the warmups are pretty innocuous but get the blood pumping.
Note to self…change computer, change login name…
Obviously that was me, not Mr buffy. No way could he tap.
Oh, even i can do single time step.
Michael V said:
buffy said:
I thought about suggesting tap dancing. Surprisingly good at getting heart rate up, even at low levels. Also excellent for balance. Not sure about the dodgy knees though. I did some classes, but then I got hold of a book – Inside Tap by Anita Feldman – and picked out the stuff that wasn’t too bouncy or stompy. I treasure my knee joints too. There are also some great YouTubes that I haven’t yet really worked with, but they are simple and interesting. I’ll just have to go to the other computer to find the links.Mrs V used to do tap dancing in Armidale, and has performed publicly. I haven’t seen her taps for ages.
Oh, and I do have tap shoes, with taps on them, but you don’t have to. You can do tap in workboots if you want. Or just street shoes. Some of the people in the Drury Lane Tap classes wear street shoes.
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:
kryten said:
Drury Lane Tap.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9LkbY73Wxo
That one is a warmup. There are quite a lot of them, but mostly the warmups are pretty innocuous but get the blood pumping.
Note to self…change computer, change login name…
Obviously that was me, not Mr buffy. No way could he tap.
Oh, even i can do single time step.
can you do the double tap though?
Bogsnorkler said:
captain_spalding said:
buffy said:Note to self…change computer, change login name…
Obviously that was me, not Mr buffy. No way could he tap.
Oh, even i can do single time step.
can you do the double tap though?
Two bullets to the head?
That’s first-day stuff.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-28/longley-hotel-prepares-ritual-cleansing-by-burning-coronavirus/12401066
Not far from you, sm.
sibeen said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-28/longley-hotel-prepares-ritual-cleansing-by-burning-coronavirus/12401066Not far from you, sm.
Other side of the mountain – just down the road from my brother at Neika.
:)
drinking a berrecas cab merlot 2018. local winery. not bad.
Bogsnorkler said:
drinking a berrecas cab merlot 2018. local winery. not bad.
Local to where?
buffy said:
sibeen said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-28/longley-hotel-prepares-ritual-cleansing-by-burning-coronavirus/12401066Not far from you, sm.
Other side of the mountain – just down the road from my brother at Neika.
:)
A good chance to vent: shake fist, shout ‘take that, you bastard!’.
captain_spalding said:
Bogsnorkler said:
drinking a berrecas cab merlot 2018. local winery. not bad.
Local to where?
me. they are just over the hill and not far away.
Bogsnorkler said:
captain_spalding said:
Bogsnorkler said:
drinking a berrecas cab merlot 2018. local winery. not bad.
Local to where?
me. they are just over the hill and not far away.
Roger. Position fixed.
You know when you make lemon self saucing pudding and it “serves 4”, and there are only two of you….you get to eat it again for a second night!
:)
dv said:
should have a red flag.
Bogsnorkler said:
dv said:
should have a red flag.
It’s a big red flag
got soaked in a brief yet powerful and chilly squall. Would not recommend.
Rule 303 said:
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:Rowing ergometer when you can’t get to the pool, deep water running & beach walking when you can.
Ta.
I’m inquiring for Mrs V. I should’ve mentioned this. Her knees are dodgy so she can’t run without inducing considerable pain.
Beach walking happens regularly – usually daily, a few km. 1 km to the beach 1 km home, plus 2- 4 km each way along and back on the beach. It doesn’t get her heart rate up enough, and her resting blood pressure is a bit elevated. She doesn’t want to go onto medication. Hence the notion of a bit of HIIT.
She has no bicycle confidence. We’ve tried a bit of re-learning on the grass common in town, but panic sets in. Not good for re-learning. Beach riding would’ve been a good thing, but 4WDs use the beach, which is a concern for a wobbly rider.
She also has no water confidence, and doesn’t like pools anyway. And the pool here is closed for the duration. She’ll get in the water at the beach, if the surf is not rough, and the water is not too deep. Perhaps she can try the deep water running in water to belly depth?
Maybe I can convert one of the bikes into an exercise bike.
The rowing movement has lots of advantages that I wont bore you with, but it’s much better for what you’re describing than a stationary bike, and a lot safer than a normal bike converted to stationary, which can be pretty dangerous if you don’t know what you’re doing.
You will find there’s a steady trade of this gear on Facebook Marketplace and Gumtree and such.
Deep water running is usually done with a flotation vest in a constant-depth swimming pool, where the feet don’t touch the floor, and is ideal for joint recovery in people with good mobility but low joint integrity – but running efforts in waist-deep water at the beach could have some pretty good advantages, too, if she’s up for that.
Look up exercises on YouTube. Use search words like “HIIT no knees”.
Dinner experiment was okay. Mini Me loved it, Mr mutant and I thought it was meh.
Mince, lots of veg, garlic and seasoning. Topped with cooked pasta and grated cheese. 25 mins in oven.
Divine Angel said:
Dinner experiment was okay. Mini Me loved it, Mr mutant and I thought it was meh.Mince, lots of veg, garlic and seasoning. Topped with cooked pasta and grated cheese. 25 mins in oven.
Moar seasoning, or something.
dv said:
got soaked in a brief yet powerful and chilly squall. Would not recommend.
I know all about that. I got caught in one a while back in a supermarket carpark. Walked out with my trolley full of goodies towards the car without really paying any great eye on the clouds that were just about to burst.
I remember it being cold. So cold it is almost painful and makes you cringe, like someone just tipped a jug of water from the fridge over you.
Went for a walk today, view was ok.
Divine Angel said:
Dinner experiment was okay. Mini Me loved it, Mr mutant and I thought it was meh.Mince, lots of veg, garlic and seasoning. Topped with cooked pasta and grated cheese. 25 mins in oven.
Pastisto sounds like it would be a goer.
Big Clive, Scottish Army ration pack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ry4QBQejFU
sarahs mum said:
Divine Angel said:
Dinner experiment was okay. Mini Me loved it, Mr mutant and I thought it was meh.Mince, lots of veg, garlic and seasoning. Topped with cooked pasta and grated cheese. 25 mins in oven.
Pastisto sounds like it would be a goer.
Consult the Car.
Bogsnorkler said:
drinking a berrecas cab merlot 2018. local winery. not bad.
Ooh, that reminds me – The Bleasdale arrived!
I haven’t tried it yet. Apparently the perfect flavour match for it is Margherita pizza, so I’ll give it a go on home-made pizza night.
Wait, over.
poikilotherm said:
Went for a walk today, view was ok.
Yeah, that looks nice.
Divine Angel said:
Rule 303 said:
Michael V said:Ta.
I’m inquiring for Mrs V. I should’ve mentioned this. Her knees are dodgy so she can’t run without inducing considerable pain.
Beach walking happens regularly – usually daily, a few km. 1 km to the beach 1 km home, plus 2- 4 km each way along and back on the beach. It doesn’t get her heart rate up enough, and her resting blood pressure is a bit elevated. She doesn’t want to go onto medication. Hence the notion of a bit of HIIT.
She has no bicycle confidence. We’ve tried a bit of re-learning on the grass common in town, but panic sets in. Not good for re-learning. Beach riding would’ve been a good thing, but 4WDs use the beach, which is a concern for a wobbly rider.
She also has no water confidence, and doesn’t like pools anyway. And the pool here is closed for the duration. She’ll get in the water at the beach, if the surf is not rough, and the water is not too deep. Perhaps she can try the deep water running in water to belly depth?
Maybe I can convert one of the bikes into an exercise bike.
The rowing movement has lots of advantages that I wont bore you with, but it’s much better for what you’re describing than a stationary bike, and a lot safer than a normal bike converted to stationary, which can be pretty dangerous if you don’t know what you’re doing.
You will find there’s a steady trade of this gear on Facebook Marketplace and Gumtree and such.
Deep water running is usually done with a flotation vest in a constant-depth swimming pool, where the feet don’t touch the floor, and is ideal for joint recovery in people with good mobility but low joint integrity – but running efforts in waist-deep water at the beach could have some pretty good advantages, too, if she’s up for that.
Look up exercises on YouTube. Use search words like “HIIT no knees”.
Thanks.
Can’t wait til Mini Me is a teenager. She’s just stormed off to her bedroom yelling that me n daddy are ruining her life.
The problem? I put tomato in her dinner.
poikilotherm said:
Went for a walk today, view was ok.
:)
Nice.
Divine Angel said:
Can’t wait til Mini Me is a teenager. She’s just stormed off to her bedroom yelling that me n daddy are ruining her life.The problem? I put tomato in her dinner.
She’s got a bit to learn about her mother, hasn’t she, if she thinks that is going to worry you.
:)
Divine Angel said:
Can’t wait til Mini Me is a teenager. She’s just stormed off to her bedroom yelling that me n daddy are ruining her life.The problem? I put tomato in her dinner.
I thought teenagers only get angrier over more petty things as they age…
good luck.
DA: did you see the eclipse photo I put up the other evening?
buffy said:
Divine Angel said:
Can’t wait til Mini Me is a teenager. She’s just stormed off to her bedroom yelling that me n daddy are ruining her life.The problem? I put tomato in her dinner.
She’s got a bit to learn about her mother, hasn’t she, if she thinks that is going to worry you.
:)
Then she yelled at me n daddy for laughing at her.
Michael V said:
DA: did you see the eclipse photo I put up the other evening?
No, I missed it
Divine Angel said:
buffy said:
Divine Angel said:
Can’t wait til Mini Me is a teenager. She’s just stormed off to her bedroom yelling that me n daddy are ruining her life.The problem? I put tomato in her dinner.
She’s got a bit to learn about her mother, hasn’t she, if she thinks that is going to worry you.
:)
Then she yelled at me n daddy for laughing at her.
:)
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:
DA: did you see the eclipse photo I put up the other evening?
No, I missed it
Here ‘tis:

Divine Angel said:
Can’t wait til Mini Me is a teenager. She’s just stormed off to her bedroom yelling that me n daddy are ruining her life.The problem? I put tomato in her dinner.
ROFL
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:
DA: did you see the eclipse photo I put up the other evening?
No, I missed it
Here ‘tis:
That is so freaking cool!
Divine Angel said:
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:No, I missed it
Here ‘tis:
That is so freaking cool!
Thought you’d like it.
:)
Back from the party. It was all very pleasant.
Bubblecar said:
Back from the party. It was all very pleasant.
Was there cake?
Bogsnorkler said:
Big Clive, Scottish Army ration packhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ry4QBQejFU
Yeah, i could live on that.
Kit-E-Kat and canned cheese was good, but the Tunnocks and whisky could keep your energy and your spirits up.
Certainly something to look forward to.
:)Divine Angel said:
Bubblecar said:
Back from the party. It was all very pleasant.
Was there cake?
There were two superb chocolate cakes.
Bubblecar said:
Back from the party. It was all very pleasant.
Did you take any photos from the car as you were driving down?
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Back from the party. It was all very pleasant.
Did you take any photos from the car as you were driving down?
No I forgot to take the camera. All looking beautifully green and damp through the midlands at the moment.
Divine Angel said:
Can’t wait til Mini Me is a teenager. She’s just stormed off to her bedroom yelling that me n daddy are ruining her life.The problem? I put tomato in her dinner.
You monster.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
Back from the party. It was all very pleasant.
Did you take any photos from the car as you were driving down?
No I forgot to take the camera. All looking beautifully green and damp through the midlands at the moment.
You forget to take the camera too too often. :)
sarahs mum said:
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:Did you take any photos from the car as you were driving down?
No I forgot to take the camera. All looking beautifully green and damp through the midlands at the moment.
You forget to take the camera too too often. :)
Too true.
This was Halyna’s lovely present from her partner, Luke.
>This was my lovely birthday surprise waiting for me when I got home yesterday – Luke (@raven_wood_hobart ) had installed his amazing and HUGE candle lantern! He’d been secretly working on this piece for weeks, putting salvaged and hand worked objects together in his unique darkly enchanting and rusty style. Somehow, everything he makes looks like it’s always been there!

Daylight views:


ABC’s Fake ‘Anonymous Youth Worker’ Promoted To High Commissioner To Ghana
An infamous federal government bureaucrat at the centre of one of the biggest scandals in the ABC’s history – a fraudulent storywhich sparked the multi-billion dollar Northern Territory intervention – has been promoted to serve as Australia’s High Commissioner to Ghana.
Gregory Andrews was working as a senior adviser to Indigenous affairs minister Mal Brough in 2006 when he appeared as the star witness in an ABC Lateline story which falsely described him as an ‘anonymous youth worker’.
Andrews – whose face was filmed in shadow and his voice digitized to hide his identity – wept openly on camera as he described how, in the mid-2000s, he reported incidents of sexual violence against women and children in Mutitjulu to police, but withdrew his statements after being threatened by powerful men in the community.
It subsequently emerged the entire story was a fiction – Andrews had never made a single report of violence against women or children to police.
Andrews was also forced to apologise to the Federal Senate for providing misleading testimony, and later became the first public servant in history to avoid appearing before a Senate Inquiry on the grounds of stress.
The day after the ABC story was broadcast, the Northern Territory government announced a high-level inquiry into the claims. Almost a year later, the resulting reporting – Little Children Are Sacred – was used by the Howard Government as the basis for launching the Northern Territory intervention.
Reporting by Fairfax revealed that shortly before Prime Minister John Howard announced the NT intervention, it received a report from Liberal Party polling firm Crosby Textor advising it that its best chance of winning the 2007 election was to intervene in the affairs of the state and territory governments, to try and make them look incompetent (all state and territory governments at the time were controlled by Labor).
The strategy failed – the Howard government lost the election, with former Foreign Affairs minister Alexander Downer lamenting afterwards that despite the loss, the policy proved popular with Australian voters.
Andrews worked in the community of Mutitjulu for a short period in 2005 as a project manager for the Northern Territory government. He subsequently joined the Department of Families and Community Services, Housing and Indigenous Affairs, and was providing advice directly to Minister Brough when the ABC falsely described him as an ‘anonymous youth worker’.
Talking points which had been prepared by Andrews for the minister prior to his appearance on Lateline were subsequently leaked – they revealed that once Andrews was provided anonymity by Lateline, he grossly embellished his story.
Andrews claimed children were being traded between Aboriginal communities in Central Australia as “sex slaves”. A lengthy investigation by Northern Territory police found “no evidence whatsoever” to support the claims. An Australian Crime Commission investigation also found the allegations to be false.
It also emerged that a doctor who appeared in the ABC Lateline report, Geoff Stewart, had been prescribing Viagra to the alleged elderly paedophile at the centre of the Lateline story, including for eight months after he wrote in the man’s health records, “…is using Viagra to have sex with young females”.
The ABC was leaked a report which revealed Mutitjulu residents were concerned about a doctor in the community prescribing Viagra to the elderly man, however Lateline suppressed that information and instead broadcast testimony from Dr Stewart alleging that Aboriginal men in the community had created an environment where children were being sexually abused.
The ABC launched an investigation into the story, but ultimately found in Lateline’s favour. The complaints review process which cleared the program was subsequently abolished by the ABC.
Mr Andrews, who was pursued by the Labor Party while in Opposition and reportedly became the first government bureaucrat in history to avoid appearing before a Senate Inquiry on the grounds of stress, left the Commonwealth public service when Labor gained office in 2007. However, he returned in 2012*, and in mid-2014 was appointed by the Abbott Government to the role of Threatened Species Commissioner by Environment Minister Greg Hunt, despite having no expertise in the area.
Mr Andrews returned to the Department of Foreign Affairs when his term as Commissioner expired, and was moved to the Australian embassy in Beijing as First Secretary.
On Friday afternoon, Minister for Foreign Affairs, Marise Payne announced Andrews had been promoted to the role of High Commissioner to Ghana, noting it was an important location given Australian companies’ interests in the “extractive sector.
“Australia’s relations with Ghana are underpinned by our shared democratic and Commonwealth traditions, and by the strong linkages between our people. The thousands of Ghanaians who have made Australia their home and similarly, the growing community of Australians living and working in Ghana, help to enrich both nations.
“Australian companies working in the extractives sector also add significant value to Ghana’s economy. Australia has been pleased to support Ghana through development programs aimed at building capacity in mining, health, education and food security. Australia Awards scholarships and courses are a key part of this support and help to reinforce bilateral ties.”
Minister Payne noted: “In Australia Mr Andrews has served as the Threatened Species Commissioner, Department of Environment and Energy; Senior Adviser, Office of the Minister for the Environment; Assistant Secretary, Department of Climate Change and Energy; CEO, Indigenous Community Volunteers; and Assistant Secretary, Department of Families, Housing, Community Services and Indigenous Affairs.”
The ABC journalist who concocted the story, Suzanne Smith, is now a consulting editor for Crikey.com.au. The producer of the article, Brett Evans, was promoted to Executive Producer of ABC’s Media Watch program, and now works for Inside Edition as a contributing editor.
The Aboriginal people in the story, targetted as whistleblowers by the Commonwealth Government, had vastly different experiences.
Tjanara Goreng Goreng, an Aboriginal woman working for the government at the time had her Canberra home raided by the Australian Federal Police. She was subsequently prosecuted for unrelated leaks of Commonwealth information, and bankrupted by the court proceedings.
Ms Goreng Goreng bounced back from the government assault, winning election onto the ACT’s Indigenous advisory body in 2015. She recently announced she is running in the August elections in the ACT for the Greens.
Two other Aboriginal people in Mutitjulu also had their homes raided by Federal Police.
You can read a detailed feature on the ABC Lateline scandal here. This writer was one of the journalists who worked on the original investigation published by the National Indigenous Times.
—-
https://newmatilda.com/2020/06/28/abcs-fake-anonymous-youth-worker-promoted-to-high-commissioner-of-ghana/
they have to make sure the babies get the hep B shot or they get rogered and ultimately get hep B
heard that from a nurse that worked in those “communities”
i’ve passed through the aboriginal communities – you get hostile looks, everything looks fucked and you feel like you’ve stepped back in time 10,000 years. dogs roam the streets with terrible injuries, missing legs. in one place older dogs will be physically attacked by the natives and they seek refuge where the white man exists normally an airport. the white man calls the dog catchers (normally the natives ) and they will be dead within hours. in general animals cop it sweet – beaten to death for fun/ tortured etc.
animals/ children cop the brunt of the savagery, when the kids grow up they become the abusers.
first hand experience has made me the man i am today.
Bubblecar said:
Daylight views:
That looks grouse.
cold enough or what….brrrr
ventured into the warm room to thaw
dv said:
ABC’s Fake ‘Anonymous Youth Worker’ Promoted To High Commissioner To GhanaAn infamous federal government bureaucrat at the centre of one of the biggest scandals in the ABC’s history – a fraudulent storywhich sparked the multi-billion dollar Northern Territory intervention – has been promoted to serve as Australia’s High Commissioner to Ghana.
Gregory Andrews was working as a senior adviser to Indigenous affairs minister Mal Brough in 2006 when he appeared as the star witness in an ABC Lateline story which falsely described him as an ‘anonymous youth worker’.
Andrews – whose face was filmed in shadow and his voice digitized to hide his identity – wept openly on camera as he described how, in the mid-2000s, he reported incidents of sexual violence against women and children in Mutitjulu to police, but withdrew his statements after being threatened by powerful men in the community.
It subsequently emerged the entire story was a fiction – Andrews had never made a single report of violence against women or children to police.
Andrews was also forced to apologise to the Federal Senate for providing misleading testimony, and later became the first public servant in history to avoid appearing before a Senate Inquiry on the grounds of stress.
The day after the ABC story was broadcast, the Northern Territory government announced a high-level inquiry into the claims. Almost a year later, the resulting reporting – Little Children Are Sacred – was used by the Howard Government as the basis for launching the Northern Territory intervention.
Reporting by Fairfax revealed that shortly before Prime Minister John Howard announced the NT intervention, it received a report from Liberal Party polling firm Crosby Textor advising it that its best chance of winning the 2007 election was to intervene in the affairs of the state and territory governments, to try and make them look incompetent (all state and territory governments at the time were controlled by Labor).
The strategy failed – the Howard government lost the election, with former Foreign Affairs minister Alexander Downer lamenting afterwards that despite the loss, the policy proved popular with Australian voters.
Andrews worked in the community of Mutitjulu for a short period in 2005 as a project manager for the Northern Territory government. He subsequently joined the Department of Families and Community Services, Housing and Indigenous Affairs, and was providing advice directly to Minister Brough when the ABC falsely described him as an ‘anonymous youth worker’.
Talking points which had been prepared by Andrews for the minister prior to his appearance on Lateline were subsequently leaked – they revealed that once Andrews was provided anonymity by Lateline, he grossly embellished his story.
Andrews claimed children were being traded between Aboriginal communities in Central Australia as “sex slaves”. A lengthy investigation by Northern Territory police found “no evidence whatsoever” to support the claims. An Australian Crime Commission investigation also found the allegations to be false.
It also emerged that a doctor who appeared in the ABC Lateline report, Geoff Stewart, had been prescribing Viagra to the alleged elderly paedophile at the centre of the Lateline story, including for eight months after he wrote in the man’s health records, “…is using Viagra to have sex with young females”.
The ABC was leaked a report which revealed Mutitjulu residents were concerned about a doctor in the community prescribing Viagra to the elderly man, however Lateline suppressed that information and instead broadcast testimony from Dr Stewart alleging that Aboriginal men in the community had created an environment where children were being sexually abused.
The ABC launched an investigation into the story, but ultimately found in Lateline’s favour. The complaints review process which cleared the program was subsequently abolished by the ABC.
Mr Andrews, who was pursued by the Labor Party while in Opposition and reportedly became the first government bureaucrat in history to avoid appearing before a Senate Inquiry on the grounds of stress, left the Commonwealth public service when Labor gained office in 2007. However, he returned in 2012*, and in mid-2014 was appointed by the Abbott Government to the role of Threatened Species Commissioner by Environment Minister Greg Hunt, despite having no expertise in the area.
Mr Andrews returned to the Department of Foreign Affairs when his term as Commissioner expired, and was moved to the Australian embassy in Beijing as First Secretary.
On Friday afternoon, Minister for Foreign Affairs, Marise Payne announced Andrews had been promoted to the role of High Commissioner to Ghana, noting it was an important location given Australian companies’ interests in the “extractive sector.
“Australia’s relations with Ghana are underpinned by our shared democratic and Commonwealth traditions, and by the strong linkages between our people. The thousands of Ghanaians who have made Australia their home and similarly, the growing community of Australians living and working in Ghana, help to enrich both nations.
“Australian companies working in the extractives sector also add significant value to Ghana’s economy. Australia has been pleased to support Ghana through development programs aimed at building capacity in mining, health, education and food security. Australia Awards scholarships and courses are a key part of this support and help to reinforce bilateral ties.”
Minister Payne noted: “In Australia Mr Andrews has served as the Threatened Species Commissioner, Department of Environment and Energy; Senior Adviser, Office of the Minister for the Environment; Assistant Secretary, Department of Climate Change and Energy; CEO, Indigenous Community Volunteers; and Assistant Secretary, Department of Families, Housing, Community Services and Indigenous Affairs.”
The ABC journalist who concocted the story, Suzanne Smith, is now a consulting editor for Crikey.com.au. The producer of the article, Brett Evans, was promoted to Executive Producer of ABC’s Media Watch program, and now works for Inside Edition as a contributing editor.
The Aboriginal people in the story, targetted as whistleblowers by the Commonwealth Government, had vastly different experiences.
Tjanara Goreng Goreng, an Aboriginal woman working for the government at the time had her Canberra home raided by the Australian Federal Police. She was subsequently prosecuted for unrelated leaks of Commonwealth information, and bankrupted by the court proceedings.
Ms Goreng Goreng bounced back from the government assault, winning election onto the ACT’s Indigenous advisory body in 2015. She recently announced she is running in the August elections in the ACT for the Greens.
Two other Aboriginal people in Mutitjulu also had their homes raided by Federal Police.
You can read a detailed feature on the ABC Lateline scandal here. This writer was one of the journalists who worked on the original investigation published by the National Indigenous Times.
—-
https://newmatilda.com/2020/06/28/abcs-fake-anonymous-youth-worker-promoted-to-high-commissioner-of-ghana/
And there is a straight line between that at the asics card and the Indue card. And It is all lies.
Thank goodness Wookie’s here.
Wookie Moll wants to climb a ladder with a 36” high powered chainsaw to chop down a 40 foot gum tree.
He’s old, suffers from vertigo and he’s never used a chainsaw before.
Can you talk some fucking sense into him, he wont listen to us.
Bubblecar said:
This was Halyna’s lovely present from her partner, Luke.>This was my lovely birthday surprise waiting for me when I got home yesterday – Luke (@raven_wood_hobart ) had installed his amazing and HUGE candle lantern! He’d been secretly working on this piece for weeks, putting salvaged and hand worked objects together in his unique darkly enchanting and rusty style. Somehow, everything he makes looks like it’s always been there!
Gorgeous.
Peak Warming Man said:
Thank goodness Wookie’s here.
Wookie Moll wants to climb a ladder with a 36” high powered chainsaw to chop down a 40 foot gum tree.
He’s old, suffers from vertigo and he’s never used a chainsaw before.
Can you talk some fucking sense into him, he wont listen to us.
wookiemeister said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Thank goodness Wookie’s here.
Wookie Moll wants to climb a ladder with a 36” high powered chainsaw to chop down a 40 foot gum tree.
He’s old, suffers from vertigo and he’s never used a chainsaw before.
Can you talk some fucking sense into him, he wont listen to us.
maybe we should just have a sweepstakes?
i’ve suggested a sweepstakes on someone at work on how long they have to live and how they will go.
wookiemeister said:
wookiemeister said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Thank goodness Wookie’s here.
Wookie Moll wants to climb a ladder with a 36” high powered chainsaw to chop down a 40 foot gum tree.
He’s old, suffers from vertigo and he’s never used a chainsaw before.
Can you talk some fucking sense into him, he wont listen to us.
maybe we should just have a sweepstakes?i’ve suggested a sweepstakes on someone at work on how long they have to live and how they will go.
he showed me how he isolated an appliance by switching off an anonymous light switch on the wall, didn’t identify the circuit, didn’t isolate from the breaker, didn’t even have a working multimeter to check for 240. he then told me of his surprise when he got a belt from a live part. i wasted my breath explaining to him how he could do things safely.
Bubblecar said:
Daylight views:
You would think he would have cleaned it.
Bubblecar said:
Daylight views:
You would think he would have cleaned it.
wookiemeister said:
wookiemeister said:
wookiemeister said:maybe we should just have a sweepstakes?
i’ve suggested a sweepstakes on someone at work on how long they have to live and how they will go.
my guess is electrocution in the next maybe 5 yearshe showed me how he isolated an appliance by switching off an anonymous light switch on the wall, didn’t identify the circuit, didn’t isolate from the breaker, didn’t even have a working multimeter to check for 240. he then told me of his surprise when he got a belt from a live part. i wasted my breath explaining to him how he could do things safely.
Bubblecar said:
Daylight views:
Love.
Also love the stone balls. Grandfather had stone balls on his gates.
my guesses with moll is death by falling out the tree.
if he falls from anything above 4m say its certain death, the body tends to tumble and you end up hitting your head, upper torso or maybe hitting the lower spine. my guesses? cracked ribs punctured lung, skull fracture, bleeding on the brain.
watching The Machinist.
when i was trimming i decided not to go beyond my limitations. you tend to wobble on the top of step ladders.
wookiemeister said:
my guesses with moll is death by falling out the tree.if he falls from anything above 4m say its certain death, the body tends to tumble and you end up hitting your head, upper torso or maybe hitting the lower spine. my guesses? cracked ribs punctured lung, skull fracture, bleeding on the brain.
Don’t forget the chainsaw piercing his torso and disemboweling himself.
Bogsnorkler said:
watching The Machinist.
It’s a tough watch.
falling off ladders is something electricians suffer from , even falling awkwardly from a lower height can do a fair amount of damage.
i slipped off an guarded walkway a few years ago and ended up with a ringing head and a gash to the back of the head. the work place incident dug up the fact that other people had also fallen off it, it was one of the two last places never assessed. after my fall they redid the entire thing so no one could ever fall off again.
PermeateFree said:
wookiemeister said:
my guesses with moll is death by falling out the tree.if he falls from anything above 4m say its certain death, the body tends to tumble and you end up hitting your head, upper torso or maybe hitting the lower spine. my guesses? cracked ribs punctured lung, skull fracture, bleeding on the brain.
Don’t forget the chainsaw piercing his torso and disemboweling himself.
Divine Angel said:
Bogsnorkler said:
watching The Machinist.
It’s a tough watch.
mr bale is sure skinny.
dv said:
ABC’s Fake ‘Anonymous Youth Worker’ Promoted To High Commissioner To GhanaAn infamous federal government bureaucrat at the centre of one of the biggest scandals in the ABC’s history – a fraudulent storywhich sparked the multi-billion dollar Northern Territory intervention – has been promoted to serve as Australia’s High Commissioner to Ghana.
Gregory Andrews was working as a senior adviser to Indigenous affairs minister Mal Brough in 2006 when he appeared as the star witness in an ABC Lateline story which falsely described him as an ‘anonymous youth worker’.
Andrews – whose face was filmed in shadow and his voice digitized to hide his identity – wept openly on camera as he described how, in the mid-2000s, he reported incidents of sexual violence against women and children in Mutitjulu to police, but withdrew his statements after being threatened by powerful men in the community.
It subsequently emerged the entire story was a fiction – Andrews had never made a single report of violence against women or children to police.
Andrews was also forced to apologise to the Federal Senate for providing misleading testimony, and later became the first public servant in history to avoid appearing before a Senate Inquiry on the grounds of stress.
The day after the ABC story was broadcast, the Northern Territory government announced a high-level inquiry into the claims. Almost a year later, the resulting reporting – Little Children Are Sacred – was used by the Howard Government as the basis for launching the Northern Territory intervention.
Reporting by Fairfax revealed that shortly before Prime Minister John Howard announced the NT intervention, it received a report from Liberal Party polling firm Crosby Textor advising it that its best chance of winning the 2007 election was to intervene in the affairs of the state and territory governments, to try and make them look incompetent (all state and territory governments at the time were controlled by Labor).
The strategy failed – the Howard government lost the election, with former Foreign Affairs minister Alexander Downer lamenting afterwards that despite the loss, the policy proved popular with Australian voters.
Andrews worked in the community of Mutitjulu for a short period in 2005 as a project manager for the Northern Territory government. He subsequently joined the Department of Families and Community Services, Housing and Indigenous Affairs, and was providing advice directly to Minister Brough when the ABC falsely described him as an ‘anonymous youth worker’.
Talking points which had been prepared by Andrews for the minister prior to his appearance on Lateline were subsequently leaked – they revealed that once Andrews was provided anonymity by Lateline, he grossly embellished his story.
Andrews claimed children were being traded between Aboriginal communities in Central Australia as “sex slaves”. A lengthy investigation by Northern Territory police found “no evidence whatsoever” to support the claims. An Australian Crime Commission investigation also found the allegations to be false.
It also emerged that a doctor who appeared in the ABC Lateline report, Geoff Stewart, had been prescribing Viagra to the alleged elderly paedophile at the centre of the Lateline story, including for eight months after he wrote in the man’s health records, “…is using Viagra to have sex with young females”.
The ABC was leaked a report which revealed Mutitjulu residents were concerned about a doctor in the community prescribing Viagra to the elderly man, however Lateline suppressed that information and instead broadcast testimony from Dr Stewart alleging that Aboriginal men in the community had created an environment where children were being sexually abused.
The ABC launched an investigation into the story, but ultimately found in Lateline’s favour. The complaints review process which cleared the program was subsequently abolished by the ABC.
Mr Andrews, who was pursued by the Labor Party while in Opposition and reportedly became the first government bureaucrat in history to avoid appearing before a Senate Inquiry on the grounds of stress, left the Commonwealth public service when Labor gained office in 2007. However, he returned in 2012*, and in mid-2014 was appointed by the Abbott Government to the role of Threatened Species Commissioner by Environment Minister Greg Hunt, despite having no expertise in the area.
Mr Andrews returned to the Department of Foreign Affairs when his term as Commissioner expired, and was moved to the Australian embassy in Beijing as First Secretary.
On Friday afternoon, Minister for Foreign Affairs, Marise Payne announced Andrews had been promoted to the role of High Commissioner to Ghana, noting it was an important location given Australian companies’ interests in the “extractive sector.
“Australia’s relations with Ghana are underpinned by our shared democratic and Commonwealth traditions, and by the strong linkages between our people. The thousands of Ghanaians who have made Australia their home and similarly, the growing community of Australians living and working in Ghana, help to enrich both nations.
“Australian companies working in the extractives sector also add significant value to Ghana’s economy. Australia has been pleased to support Ghana through development programs aimed at building capacity in mining, health, education and food security. Australia Awards scholarships and courses are a key part of this support and help to reinforce bilateral ties.”
Minister Payne noted: “In Australia Mr Andrews has served as the Threatened Species Commissioner, Department of Environment and Energy; Senior Adviser, Office of the Minister for the Environment; Assistant Secretary, Department of Climate Change and Energy; CEO, Indigenous Community Volunteers; and Assistant Secretary, Department of Families, Housing, Community Services and Indigenous Affairs.”
The ABC journalist who concocted the story, Suzanne Smith, is now a consulting editor for Crikey.com.au. The producer of the article, Brett Evans, was promoted to Executive Producer of ABC’s Media Watch program, and now works for Inside Edition as a contributing editor.
The Aboriginal people in the story, targetted as whistleblowers by the Commonwealth Government, had vastly different experiences.
Tjanara Goreng Goreng, an Aboriginal woman working for the government at the time had her Canberra home raided by the Australian Federal Police. She was subsequently prosecuted for unrelated leaks of Commonwealth information, and bankrupted by the court proceedings.
Ms Goreng Goreng bounced back from the government assault, winning election onto the ACT’s Indigenous advisory body in 2015. She recently announced she is running in the August elections in the ACT for the Greens.
Two other Aboriginal people in Mutitjulu also had their homes raided by Federal Police.
You can read a detailed feature on the ABC Lateline scandal here. This writer was one of the journalists who worked on the original investigation published by the National Indigenous Times.
—-
https://newmatilda.com/2020/06/28/abcs-fake-anonymous-youth-worker-promoted-to-high-commissioner-of-ghana/
So am I right in thinking that the ABC have kept pretty quiet about all this?
I don’t remember hearing anything about it.
wookiemeister said:
PermeateFree said:
wookiemeister said:
my guesses with moll is death by falling out the tree.if he falls from anything above 4m say its certain death, the body tends to tumble and you end up hitting your head, upper torso or maybe hitting the lower spine. my guesses? cracked ribs punctured lung, skull fracture, bleeding on the brain.
Don’t forget the chainsaw piercing his torso and disemboweling himself.
its possible, though i’m seeing a passing blow as it falls on him as hes laying on the floor
So he just lops off an arm or a leg. Could be worse.
PermeateFree said:
wookiemeister said:
my guesses with moll is death by falling out the tree.if he falls from anything above 4m say its certain death, the body tends to tumble and you end up hitting your head, upper torso or maybe hitting the lower spine. my guesses? cracked ribs punctured lung, skull fracture, bleeding on the brain.
Don’t forget the chainsaw piercing his torso and disemboweling himself.
I have seen a couple of people who have been hit in the nose.
sarahs mum said:
PermeateFree said:
wookiemeister said:
my guesses with moll is death by falling out the tree.if he falls from anything above 4m say its certain death, the body tends to tumble and you end up hitting your head, upper torso or maybe hitting the lower spine. my guesses? cracked ribs punctured lung, skull fracture, bleeding on the brain.
Don’t forget the chainsaw piercing his torso and disemboweling himself.
I have seen a couple of people who have been hit in the nose.
If you don’t mind me saying, but that sounds a little lame in comparison.
PermeateFree said:
wookiemeister said:
PermeateFree said:Don’t forget the chainsaw piercing his torso and disemboweling himself.
its possible, though i’m seeing a passing blow as it falls on him as hes laying on the floorSo he just lops off an arm or a leg. Could be worse.
as a non expert i’d say you’d have it bite through muscle and hit the bone. its 50/50 if you hit an artery
wookiemeister said:
PermeateFree said:
wookiemeister said:its possible, though i’m seeing a passing blow as it falls on him as hes laying on the floor
So he just lops off an arm or a leg. Could be worse.
i reckon its hard to hack off a limb, a chainsaw would need consistent pressure to chew through boneas a non expert i’d say you’d have it bite through muscle and hit the bone. its 50/50 if you hit an artery
Nothing like a lucky break.
wookiemeister said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Thank goodness Wookie’s here.
Wookie Moll wants to climb a ladder with a 36” high powered chainsaw to chop down a 40 foot gum tree.
He’s old, suffers from vertigo and he’s never used a chainsaw before.
Can you talk some fucking sense into him, he wont listen to us.
maybe we should just have a sweepstakes?
What’s the action on the ladder?
given molls situation he’d be better off paying someone to deal with it
people who do that , do it all the time. anyone that doesn’t know what they are doing would already be dead.
I had a chainsaw-tooth wheel on my angle grinder.
I was using it , and just thinking ‘it’d be a good idea to fit the right-angled grip handle to the grinder, when i dropped it.
Took a bite out of the inside of my left knee.
Things got rather messy very quickly. Clamped my hand over it, and asked Mrs S to please come and assist.
She looked at it, patched me up, and took me to a 7-day medical clinic (i knew it was a smart move to marry a RN).
Deep gash, severed a small artery, that sort of thing.
Stitches, and an interesting conversation with the doc about anaesthetics.
They’re Dead Jim.
Dead?
Yes Jim, they’re dead all of them.
Dead? All of them?
Yes Jim They’re all dead.
But how Bones?
It was the the red shirts all the time Jim, turns out there was something in the red dye that made the shirts red which interacted with the teleport.
What Bones?
A life form living in the red dye, that become hostile when the red dye was subjected to the teleport system.
Why didn’t we find this out sooner Bones?
No one thought to study the red shirts Jim.
Tau.Neutrino said:
No one thought to study the red shirts Jim.
I thought the red shirts just made them obvious first targets.
captain_spalding said:
Tau.Neutrino said:No one thought to study the red shirts Jim.
I thought the red shirts just made them obvious first targets.
There was that too.
Hey, Tau, i have some SDR questions, but it’s getting late, and they can wait.
Basically, i have my SDR dongle, set it up, local FM broadcast stations are fine, but that’s all i get.
Anyway, we can let it go until an earlier hour some evening.
captain_spalding said:
I had a chainsaw-tooth wheel on my angle grinder.I was using it , and just thinking ‘it’d be a good idea to fit the right-angled grip handle to the grinder, when i dropped it.
Took a bite out of the inside of my left knee.
Things got rather messy very quickly. Clamped my hand over it, and asked Mrs S to please come and assist.
She looked at it, patched me up, and took me to a 7-day medical clinic (i knew it was a smart move to marry a RN).
Deep gash, severed a small artery, that sort of thing.
Stitches, and an interesting conversation with the doc about anaesthetics.
i try to move and work slowly when handling dangerous situations
if you are working with people you don’t know very well they will always try to injure you. direct them/ watch them like a hawk.
captain_spalding said:
Hey, Tau, i have some SDR questions, but it’s getting late, and they can wait.Basically, i have my SDR dongle, set it up, local FM broadcast stations are fine, but that’s all i get.
Anyway, we can let it go until an earlier hour some evening.
ok.
wookiemeister said:
captain_spalding said:
I had a chainsaw-tooth wheel on my angle grinder.I was using it , and just thinking ‘it’d be a good idea to fit the right-angled grip handle to the grinder, when i dropped it.
Took a bite out of the inside of my left knee.
Things got rather messy very quickly. Clamped my hand over it, and asked Mrs S to please come and assist.
She looked at it, patched me up, and took me to a 7-day medical clinic (i knew it was a smart move to marry a RN).
Deep gash, severed a small artery, that sort of thing.
Stitches, and an interesting conversation with the doc about anaesthetics.
things happen real quicki try to move and work slowly when handling dangerous situations
if you are working with people you don’t know very well they will always try to injure you. direct them/ watch them like a hawk.
Yes, i know what you mean.
I was working with this idiot who i’d met in a shaving mirror just that morning.
PermeateFree said:
sarahs mum said:
PermeateFree said:Don’t forget the chainsaw piercing his torso and disemboweling himself.
I have seen a couple of people who have been hit in the nose.
If you don’t mind me saying, but that sounds a little lame in comparison.
one of them looked like he cut his nose into two equal halves and it was put back together in a third world country..
Saw a heat engine on a stove and thought about it a bit.
One of these
Heat Self-Powered Fan Wood Stove 5 Blade Top Burner Fireplace Silent Eco Fan
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Heat-Self-Powered-Fan-Wood-Stove-5-Blade-Top-Burner-Fireplace-Silent-Eco-Fan/174323984483
captain_spalding said:
wookiemeister said:
captain_spalding said:
I had a chainsaw-tooth wheel on my angle grinder.I was using it , and just thinking ‘it’d be a good idea to fit the right-angled grip handle to the grinder, when i dropped it.
Took a bite out of the inside of my left knee.
Things got rather messy very quickly. Clamped my hand over it, and asked Mrs S to please come and assist.
She looked at it, patched me up, and took me to a 7-day medical clinic (i knew it was a smart move to marry a RN).
Deep gash, severed a small artery, that sort of thing.
Stitches, and an interesting conversation with the doc about anaesthetics.
things happen real quicki try to move and work slowly when handling dangerous situations
if you are working with people you don’t know very well they will always try to injure you. direct them/ watch them like a hawk.
Yes, i know what you mean.
I was working with this idiot who i’d met in a shaving mirror just that morning.
sarahs mum said:
PermeateFree said:
sarahs mum said:I have seen a couple of people who have been hit in the nose.
If you don’t mind me saying, but that sounds a little lame in comparison.
one of them looked like he cut his nose into two equal halves and it was put back together in a third world country..
i’ve met a fellah that stood on a landmine
everything below the knee gone
blast marks on one side of the face
If you think it’s cold here at the moment, have a peep at Mars.
Here’s cold-trap crater Korolev: 80 km across, it’s permanently filled with ice, around 1.8km thick.

Bogsnorkler said:
watching The Machinist.
Good film that.
Bubblecar said:
If you think it’s cold here at the moment, have a peep at Mars.Here’s cold-trap crater Korolev: 80 km across, it’s permanently filled with ice, around 1.8km thick.
Bloody Mars always has to go one better.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Bogsnorkler said:
watching The Machinist.
Good film that.
Is that on sbs on demand?
btm said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Bogsnorkler said:
watching The Machinist.
Good film that.
Is that on sbs on demand?
Yep.
Bogsnorkler said:
btm said:
Witty Rejoinder said:Good film that.
Is that on sbs on demand?
Yep.
Thanks
Art That Was Never Finished
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VDVo9akCiQ
Mr buffy’s a good man. He told me Bran Nue Day was on tonight. Just finished watching it. Love it. I suspect the last time we watched it was when it first came out over 10 years ago.
Kryten, give buffy her handle back.
sibeen said:
Kryten, give buffy her handle back.
Yes yes yes no. she usually steals my handle, and in this case for once I am in the good books
pissing down.
Bogsnorkler said:
pissing down.
Yeah. Here too
Bogsnorkler said:
pissing down.
Been off and on here, but heavy when on
dv said:
Bogsnorkler said:
pissing down.
Been off and on here, but heavy when on
Just had a quick look at the radar and we’re gunna cope what Boris got very soon.
I’m off to bed anyway.

This is a paragraph font size 1 pixel.
This is a paragraph font size 2 pixels.
This is a paragraph. font size 3 pixels
This is a paragraph. font size 4 pixels
This is a paragraph. font size 5 pixels
This is a paragraph. font size 6 pixels
This is a paragraph. font size 7 pixels
This is a paragraph. font size 8 pixels
This is a paragraph. font size 9 pixels
This is a paragraph. font size 10 pixels
This is a paragraph. font size 11 pixels
This is a paragraph. font size 12 pixels
This is a paragraph. font size 13 pixels
This is a paragraph. font size 14 pixels
This is a paragraph. font size 15 pixels
This is a paragraph. font size 16 pixels
This is a paragraph. font size 17 pixels
This is a paragraph. font size 18 pixels
This is a paragraph. font size 19 pixels
This is a paragraph. font size 20 pixels
This is a paragraph. font size 30 pixels
This is a paragraph. font size 40 pixels
This is a paragraph. font size 50 pixels
This is a paragraph. font size 60 pixels
This is a paragraph. font size 70 pixels
This is a paragraph. font size 80 pixels
This is a paragraph. font size 90 pixels
This is a paragraph. font size 100 pixels
This is a paragraph. font size 200 pixels
This is a paragraph. font size 300 pixels
This is a paragraph. font size 400 pixels
This is a paragraph. font size 500 pixels
This is a paragraph. font size 600 pixels
This is a paragraph. font size 700 pixels
This is a paragraph. font size 800 pixels
This is a paragraph. font size 900 pixels
This is a paragraph. font size 1000 pixels
:)
sarahs mum said:
Art That Was Never Finished
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VDVo9akCiQ
The unfinished work I find very appealing. When making jewelry (hobby) I always preferred the rough textured finish compared to the precision, worked finish of what is regarded as gem quality. Very interesting video..
dv said:
Bogsnorkler said:
pissing down.
Been off and on here, but heavy when on
https://i.imgur.com/C3VLjII.mp4
must grow
Andy Goldsworthy is a British artist who has been making stunning artworks out of natural materials for decades. Most of them are by their very nature short lived, like petals drifting down a river current or lines carved into beach sand during low tide. Most of the time, all that’s left are his photographs.
PermeateFree said:
![]()
Andy Goldsworthy is a British artist who has been making stunning artworks out of natural materials for decades. Most of them are by their very nature short lived, like petals drifting down a river current or lines carved into beach sand during low tide. Most of the time, all that’s left are his photographs.
PermeateFree said:
PermeateFree said:
![]()
Andy Goldsworthy is a British artist who has been making stunning artworks out of natural materials for decades. Most of them are by their very nature short lived, like petals drifting down a river current or lines carved into beach sand during low tide. Most of the time, all that’s left are his photographs.
PermeateFree said:
PermeateFree said:
PermeateFree said:
![]()
Andy Goldsworthy is a British artist who has been making stunning artworks out of natural materials for decades. Most of them are by their very nature short lived, like petals drifting down a river current or lines carved into beach sand during low tide. Most of the time, all that’s left are his photographs.
PermeateFree said:
PermeateFree said:
PermeateFree said:
PermeateFree said:
PermeateFree said:
PermeateFree said:
Updated at 06:00 EST

Good morning everybody.
It’s 15.2°C and 80% RH in this office. Outside is a little cooler. There’s a light air and while much of the sky is pale blue, there’s significant cloud on all horizons. BoM tells me to expect a top of 21°C and that there is a decreasing chance of rain as the day goes on.
No real plans yet. I’ll see how the day pans out – rain or shine – and I’ll wing it.
Morning!
Today is Jellybean’s adoptaversary. To celebrate, she’s having her vaccinations.
Mini Me had a rough night, lots of nightmares. I expect her to sleep in today but it’s school hols so she’s allowed to.
Heading for a sunny top of 21.
Divine Angel said:
Morning!Today is Jellybean’s adoptaversary. To celebrate, she’s having her vaccinations.
Mini Me had a rough night, lots of nightmares. I expect her to sleep in today but it’s school hols so she’s allowed to.
Heading for a sunny top of 21.
Morning.
:)
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Morning!Today is Jellybean’s adoptaversary. To celebrate, she’s having her vaccinations.
Mini Me had a rough night, lots of nightmares. I expect her to sleep in today but it’s school hols so she’s allowed to.
Heading for a sunny top of 21.
Morning.
:)
Currently
4.1°C
Feels like -2.1 °C
Probably will get to
16 °C later.
Good morning Holidayers. One degree going on out there, but I can’t see any frost today. The forecast is for 13 and sunny.
Going to follow Mr buffy into Hamilton this morning to bring him back after he hands in the red Mazda CX5 to the dealer who is buying it. We will then just have my Suzuki S cross manual and the BT50 ute. I think we can manage.
:)
Apes controlling a drone. Screenshot below, follow link for video.
https://twitter.com/shuttlecock/status/1276782014683770880?s=21
Oh dear, done it again…
kryten said:
Good morning Holidayers. One degree going on out there, but I can’t see any frost today. The forecast is for 13 and sunny.Going to follow Mr buffy into Hamilton this morning to bring him back after he hands in the red Mazda CX5 to the dealer who is buying it. We will then just have my Suzuki S cross manual and the BT50 ute. I think we can manage.
:)
buffy said:
Oh dear, done it again…
Morning Tamb. Still in Cairns?
Michael V said:
Morning Tamb. Still in Cairns?
She’s looking at me like I’m gonna feed her.
Tamb said:
Michael V said:
Morning Tamb. Still in Cairns?
Yes mate. Until Friday morning.
More beetroot sourdough or similar?
Divine Angel said:
She’s looking at me like I’m gonna feed her.
Well, it is her adoptaversary…
Michael V said:
Tamb said:
Michael V said:
Morning Tamb. Still in Cairns?
Yes mate. Until Friday morning.More beetroot sourdough or similar?
Tamb said:
Michael V said:
Tamb said:Yes mate. Until Friday morning.
More beetroot sourdough or similar?
McGinty’s Irish bar is open again so I might walk down & have a Guinness after today’s chemo.
Nice.
:)
Fun fact.
John Tyler, 10th US President, born in 1790, has two living grandchildren.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-two-of-president-john-tylers-grandsons-are-still-alive/#app
dv said:
Fun fact.John Tyler, 10th US President, born in 1790, has two living grandchildren.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-two-of-president-john-tylers-grandsons-are-still-alive/#app
What are the chances of that?!
Must be some sort of conspiracy going on here.
(I wonder what the longest ever time-span between birth of grandfather and death of grandson is. Could be up around 250 years I guess).
dv said:
Fun fact.John Tyler, 10th US President, born in 1790, has two living grandchildren.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-two-of-president-john-tylers-grandsons-are-still-alive/#app
Amazing!
Thanks for that.
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
Fun fact.John Tyler, 10th US President, born in 1790, has two living grandchildren.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-two-of-president-john-tylers-grandsons-are-still-alive/#app
What are the chances of that?!
Must be some sort of conspiracy going on here.
(I wonder what the longest ever time-span between birth of grandfather and death of grandson is. Could be up around 250 years I guess).
Well, my father was 51 when I was born. Sure I did it much younger. A father at 23 but it has been known that the next generation may also not father children until later in life.
The simple fact easily noticeable is the grandmother of the father (me) and the great grandmother of my wife (Mrs rb), were both born in 1876 and went to school together in Hill End.
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
Fun fact.John Tyler, 10th US President, born in 1790, has two living grandchildren.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-two-of-president-john-tylers-grandsons-are-still-alive/#app
What are the chances of that?!
Must be some sort of conspiracy going on here.
(I wonder what the longest ever time-span between birth of grandfather and death of grandson is. Could be up around 250 years I guess).
There have been proven cases of paternity by people in their early 90s. If we say that the two fathers were 92 at the time of the son’s birth, and the grandson lived to be 116, then we’re at a neat 300.
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
Fun fact.John Tyler, 10th US President, born in 1790, has two living grandchildren.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-two-of-president-john-tylers-grandsons-are-still-alive/#app
What are the chances of that?!
Must be some sort of conspiracy going on here.
(I wonder what the longest ever time-span between birth of grandfather and death of grandson is. Could be up around 250 years I guess).
There have been proven cases of paternity by people in their early 90s. If we say that the two fathers were 92 at the time of the son’s birth, and the grandson lived to be 116, then we’re at a neat 300.
Yep.
pp
Morning punters and correctors, it cool, sunny and bright in the Pearl of the South Specific today.
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
Fun fact.John Tyler, 10th US President, born in 1790, has two living grandchildren.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-two-of-president-john-tylers-grandsons-are-still-alive/#app
What are the chances of that?!
Must be some sort of conspiracy going on here.
(I wonder what the longest ever time-span between birth of grandfather and death of grandson is. Could be up around 250 years I guess).
There have been proven cases of paternity by people in their early 90s. If we say that the two fathers were 92 at the time of the son’s birth, and the grandson lived to be 116, then we’re at a neat 300.
When you say proven, you mean they have actually checked the DNA?
Getting to the 300 seems a little unlikely, but it’s certainly a nice target to aim for.
Can’t wait till I get to 92 to give it a go.
dv said:
pp
idgi
Greetings, another week
I’m back. And logged in correctly this time. I walked up and over Mt Rouse. It’s nearly a 5km walk. It took me an hour and 10 minutes. I used to do it in an hour. I hadn’t done it for months. A quick Google suggests the up and over is about 100m above the plain. And this morning my calf muscles certainly thought so. They will submit…eventually.
buffy said:
I’m back. And logged in correctly this time. I walked up and over Mt Rouse. It’s nearly a 5km walk. It took me an hour and 10 minutes. I used to do it in an hour. I hadn’t done it for months. A quick Google suggests the up and over is about 100m above the plain. And this morning my calf muscles certainly thought so. They will submit…eventually.
Well done. I need to get out and do that sort of thig every morning.
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:What are the chances of that?!
Must be some sort of conspiracy going on here.
(I wonder what the longest ever time-span between birth of grandfather and death of grandson is. Could be up around 250 years I guess).
There have been proven cases of paternity by people in their early 90s. If we say that the two fathers were 92 at the time of the son’s birth, and the grandson lived to be 116, then we’re at a neat 300.
When you say proven, you mean they have actually checked the DNA?
Getting to the 300 seems a little unlikely, but it’s certainly a nice target to aim for.
Can’t wait till I get to 92 to give it a go.
I guess 300 would be the upper bound
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:There have been proven cases of paternity by people in their early 90s. If we say that the two fathers were 92 at the time of the son’s birth, and the grandson lived to be 116, then we’re at a neat 300.
When you say proven, you mean they have actually checked the DNA?
Getting to the 300 seems a little unlikely, but it’s certainly a nice target to aim for.
Can’t wait till I get to 92 to give it a go.
I guess 300 would be the upper bound
A bit of a stretch, yes.
roughbarked said:
dv said:
The Rev Dodgson said:When you say proven, you mean they have actually checked the DNA?
Getting to the 300 seems a little unlikely, but it’s certainly a nice target to aim for.
Can’t wait till I get to 92 to give it a go.
I guess 300 would be the upper bound
A bit of a stretch, yes.
Then again, with sperm freezing these days, the sky is the limit
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
I’m back. And logged in correctly this time. I walked up and over Mt Rouse. It’s nearly a 5km walk. It took me an hour and 10 minutes. I used to do it in an hour. I hadn’t done it for months. A quick Google suggests the up and over is about 100m above the plain. And this morning my calf muscles certainly thought so. They will submit…eventually.Well done. I need to get out and do that sort of thig every morning.
I think once a week should be enough. My plan for my retirement (which has been rather ragged so far, and is now 12 months on!) was to walk the mountain on Monday, do some tap dancing on Tuesday, do archery on Wednesday. And the rest of the week was not defined. I’m going to try to get it going now.
buffy said:
dv said:
pp
idgi
+1
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
I’m back. And logged in correctly this time. I walked up and over Mt Rouse. It’s nearly a 5km walk. It took me an hour and 10 minutes. I used to do it in an hour. I hadn’t done it for months. A quick Google suggests the up and over is about 100m above the plain. And this morning my calf muscles certainly thought so. They will submit…eventually.Well done. I need to get out and do that sort of thig every morning.
I think once a week should be enough. My plan for my retirement (which has been rather ragged so far, and is now 12 months on!) was to walk the mountain on Monday, do some tap dancing on Tuesday, do archery on Wednesday. And the rest of the week was not defined. I’m going to try to get it going now.
Don’t take the keg on legs on that walk it could kil…………..yeah it might be alright.
sibeen said:
buffy said:
dv said:
pp
idgi
+1
Popular culture ref
dv said:
sibeen said:
buffy said:idgi
+1
Popular culture ref
Nup, that doesn’t help :)
dv said:
sibeen said:
buffy said:idgi
+1
Popular culture ref
How popular?
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
sibeen said:+1
Popular culture ref
How popular?
Fairly?
sibeen said:
dv said:
sibeen said:+1
Popular culture ref
Nup, that doesn’t help :)
I’m guessing:
buffy said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
I’m back. And logged in correctly this time. I walked up and over Mt Rouse. It’s nearly a 5km walk. It took me an hour and 10 minutes. I used to do it in an hour. I hadn’t done it for months. A quick Google suggests the up and over is about 100m above the plain. And this morning my calf muscles certainly thought so. They will submit…eventually.Well done. I need to get out and do that sort of thig every morning.
I think once a week should be enough. My plan for my retirement (which has been rather ragged so far, and is now 12 months on!) was to walk the mountain on Monday, do some tap dancing on Tuesday, do archery on Wednesday. And the rest of the week was not defined. I’m going to try to get it going now.
roughbarked said:
buffy said:
roughbarked said:Well done. I need to get out and do that sort of thig every morning.
I think once a week should be enough. My plan for my retirement (which has been rather ragged so far, and is now 12 months on!) was to walk the mountain on Monday, do some tap dancing on Tuesday, do archery on Wednesday. And the rest of the week was not defined. I’m going to try to get it going now.
You are making a good start. :) Keep on keeping on is the go.
Walks when nature is around are pleasant, works in the city amongst people and traffic and noise much less so
OK my next move is to make another cup of tea and have some toast with lashings of butter topped with marmalade jam.
dv said:
sibeen said:
buffy said:idgi
+1
Popular culture ref
Can’t be all that popular.
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:
roughbarked said:Well done. I need to get out and do that sort of thig every morning.
I think once a week should be enough. My plan for my retirement (which has been rather ragged so far, and is now 12 months on!) was to walk the mountain on Monday, do some tap dancing on Tuesday, do archery on Wednesday. And the rest of the week was not defined. I’m going to try to get it going now.
Don’t take the keg on legs on that walk it could kil…………..yeah it might be alright.
You asked for it…he did it when he was younger. Here he is at the top of Mt Rouse, with Babuschka, in 2013. He was a puppy. He’s now heading for 8 years old in November.
buffy said:
Peak Warming Man said:
buffy said:I think once a week should be enough. My plan for my retirement (which has been rather ragged so far, and is now 12 months on!) was to walk the mountain on Monday, do some tap dancing on Tuesday, do archery on Wednesday. And the rest of the week was not defined. I’m going to try to get it going now.
Don’t take the keg on legs on that walk it could kil…………..yeah it might be alright.
You asked for it…he did it when he was younger. Here he is at the top of Mt Rouse, with Babuschka, in 2013. He was a puppy. He’s now heading for 8 years old in November.
He could walk as far as he can and then you could get him a little red wagon to pull him in
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:Popular culture ref
How popular?
Fairly?
According to the straw poll held here recently its popularity may have been over-stated.
Cymek said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:I think once a week should be enough. My plan for my retirement (which has been rather ragged so far, and is now 12 months on!) was to walk the mountain on Monday, do some tap dancing on Tuesday, do archery on Wednesday. And the rest of the week was not defined. I’m going to try to get it going now.
You are making a good start. :) Keep on keeping on is the go.
Walks when nature is around are pleasant, works in the city amongst people and traffic and noise much less so
That’s why the closest I get to civilisation is a village with 50 houses.
Cymek said:
roughbarked said:
buffy said:I think once a week should be enough. My plan for my retirement (which has been rather ragged so far, and is now 12 months on!) was to walk the mountain on Monday, do some tap dancing on Tuesday, do archery on Wednesday. And the rest of the week was not defined. I’m going to try to get it going now.
You are making a good start. :) Keep on keeping on is the go.
Walks when nature is around are pleasant, works in the city amongst people and traffic and noise much less so
I only sw one wallaby today. Lots of maggies. I was serenaded up part of the walk by a shrikethrush. It was cold, but by the time I was halfway I had taken off my coat and gloves. Certainly bumps up your core temperature. Pulse was 88 when I walked back in the door here. I need to wear a watch with a second hand next time and take my pulse at the top of the climb. By the time I got home I’d come down the mountain and walked a couple of km on the flat. I was pleased with how quickly my breathing came back to normal though, probably inside 5 minutes of the steepest part of the climb. I must still have some fitness.
buffy said:
Cymek said:
roughbarked said:You are making a good start. :) Keep on keeping on is the go.
Walks when nature is around are pleasant, works in the city amongst people and traffic and noise much less so
I only sw one wallaby today. Lots of maggies. I was serenaded up part of the walk by a shrikethrush. It was cold, but by the time I was halfway I had taken off my coat and gloves. Certainly bumps up your core temperature. Pulse was 88 when I walked back in the door here. I need to wear a watch with a second hand next time and take my pulse at the top of the climb. By the time I got home I’d come down the mountain and walked a couple of km on the flat. I was pleased with how quickly my breathing came back to normal though, probably inside 5 minutes of the steepest part of the climb. I must still have some fitness.
I’m going to have to go somewhere else or further up my backyard at least. They are jackhammering two concrete bridges out of the canal that runs past the village. At present, they are working on the bridge around the other side of the sandhill which has a hundred acres of orange orchard on it. My hearing isn’t enjoying it now. Not looking forward to when they come around this side of the hill. About six weeks of it. I’d rather be doing my own lighter jackhammering in an opal mine.
sibeen said:
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:How popular?
Fairly?
According to the straw poll held here recently its popularity may have been over-stated.
Sure, not everyone likes straw

Grilled cheese toasties for lunch. Mini Me had a mini pizza from the air fryer. Only 2 minutes in there compared with 10-12 in the oven plus warming up time (and energy).
There’ll be a chicken kiev this end, 20 minutes in the oven.
Bubblecar said:
There’ll be a chicken kiev this end, 20 minutes in the oven.
A No. 12 chicken?
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
There’ll be a chicken kiev this end, 20 minutes in the oven.
A No. 12 chicken?
with 4 Camembert rounds stuck up its clacker.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
There’ll be a chicken kiev this end, 20 minutes in the oven.
A No. 12 chicken?
A single crumbed kiev fillet with the traditional butter & garlic etc.
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
There’ll be a chicken kiev this end, 20 minutes in the oven.
A No. 12 chicken?
A single crumbed kiev fillet with the traditional butter & garlic etc.
You’ve changed man.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bubblecar said:
Peak Warming Man said:A No. 12 chicken?
A single crumbed kiev fillet with the traditional butter & garlic etc.
You’ve changed man.
That’s the filling it’s wrapped in bacon
Anyway, enough of this flimflam. There’s a heap of sweet and sour weed needs pulling out. I’d better go and do that.
It’s lovely and sunny outside. I think the jumper can come off before I go out the door.
The whole reason that we evolved as humans is because we started cooking our food,” says Jenna Macciochi, firmly. “When we only had a raw diet, we had to be eating constantly, because our bodies struggled to get the nutrients out of raw food.”
Biologists have long agreed with Macciochi, who studies how a person’s nutrition and lifestyle interact with their immune system at the University of Sussex. In fact, there’s a substantial back catalogue of evidence that suggests that human evolution is directly linked to the use of fire.
——————————————-
And there you have it, cook it well, cook it with fire.
Peak Warming Man said:
Biologists have long agreed with Macciochi, who studies how a person’s nutrition and lifestyle interact with their immune system at the University of Sussex.
Presumably the way this happens at the University of Sussex is applicable to the wider world..?
Peak Warming Man said:
The whole reason that we evolved as humans is because we started cooking our food,” says Jenna Macciochi, firmly. “When we only had a raw diet, we had to be eating constantly, because our bodies struggled to get the nutrients out of raw food.”
Biologists have long agreed with Macciochi, who studies how a person’s nutrition and lifestyle interact with their immune system at the University of Sussex. In fact, there’s a substantial back catalogue of evidence that suggests that human evolution is directly linked to the use of fire.
——————————————-And there you have it, cook it well, cook it with fire.
Tamb said:
Peak Warming Man said:
The whole reason that we evolved as humans is because we started cooking our food,” says Jenna Macciochi, firmly. “When we only had a raw diet, we had to be eating constantly, because our bodies struggled to get the nutrients out of raw food.”
Biologists have long agreed with Macciochi, who studies how a person’s nutrition and lifestyle interact with their immune system at the University of Sussex. In fact, there’s a substantial back catalogue of evidence that suggests that human evolution is directly linked to the use of fire.
——————————————-And there you have it, cook it well, cook it with fire.
This explains men’s love of BBQs.
And this current wankery with serving up your steak rare, it’s against nature. A well done steak is food for the brane.
sibeen said:
Tamb said:
Peak Warming Man said:
The whole reason that we evolved as humans is because we started cooking our food,” says Jenna Macciochi, firmly. “When we only had a raw diet, we had to be eating constantly, because our bodies struggled to get the nutrients out of raw food.”
Biologists have long agreed with Macciochi, who studies how a person’s nutrition and lifestyle interact with their immune system at the University of Sussex. In fact, there’s a substantial back catalogue of evidence that suggests that human evolution is directly linked to the use of fire.
——————————————-And there you have it, cook it well, cook it with fire.
This explains men’s love of BBQs.And this current wankery with serving up your steak rare, it’s against nature. A well done steak is food for the brane.
the better the steak the less you need to cook it.
sibeen said:
Tamb said:
Peak Warming Man said:
The whole reason that we evolved as humans is because we started cooking our food,” says Jenna Macciochi, firmly. “When we only had a raw diet, we had to be eating constantly, because our bodies struggled to get the nutrients out of raw food.”
Biologists have long agreed with Macciochi, who studies how a person’s nutrition and lifestyle interact with their immune system at the University of Sussex. In fact, there’s a substantial back catalogue of evidence that suggests that human evolution is directly linked to the use of fire.
——————————————-And there you have it, cook it well, cook it with fire.
This explains men’s love of BBQs.And this current wankery with serving up your steak rare, it’s against nature. A well done steak is food for the brane.
Tamb said:
sibeen said:
Tamb said:This explains men’s love of BBQs.
And this current wankery with serving up your steak rare, it’s against nature. A well done steak is food for the brane.
The wankers say “If it’s over-cooked it spoils the taste of the Chardonnay.”
LOL
Tamb said:
sibeen said:
Tamb said:This explains men’s love of BBQs.
And this current wankery with serving up your steak rare, it’s against nature. A well done steak is food for the brane.
The wankers say “If it’s over-cooked it spoils the taste of the Chardonnay.”
:)
Peak Warming Man said:
The whole reason that we evolved as humans is because we started cooking our food,” says Jenna Macciochi, firmly. “When we only had a raw diet, we had to be eating constantly, because our bodies struggled to get the nutrients out of raw food.”
Biologists have long agreed with Macciochi, who studies how a person’s nutrition and lifestyle interact with their immune system at the University of Sussex. In fact, there’s a substantial back catalogue of evidence that suggests that human evolution is directly linked to the use of fire.
——————————————-And there you have it, cook it well, cook it with fire.
good idea to cook the worms out, kills bacteria etc also, slows down decomposition too
infections from food, whatever parasite, or bacterial, latter results in tummy problems or throwing up or and the shits, so’s a wasted meal really, pre-refridgeration, was a good way of extending the safe eatability (life) of food, you could heat it again, probably the origins of dried meat in there, cook or heat dry it well and add salt, keeps for longer again
sibeen said:
Tamb said:
Peak Warming Man said:
The whole reason that we evolved as humans is because we started cooking our food,” says Jenna Macciochi, firmly. “When we only had a raw diet, we had to be eating constantly, because our bodies struggled to get the nutrients out of raw food.”
Biologists have long agreed with Macciochi, who studies how a person’s nutrition and lifestyle interact with their immune system at the University of Sussex. In fact, there’s a substantial back catalogue of evidence that suggests that human evolution is directly linked to the use of fire.
——————————————-And there you have it, cook it well, cook it with fire.
This explains men’s love of BBQs.And this current wankery with serving up your steak rare, it’s against nature. A well done steak is food for the brane.
Pffft. Haven’t you heard of the Barossa Dreaming?
Barbequeing was invented when a mob of Pitjantjatjara blokes chased some ‘Roos into a patch of scrub and set it alight. They left the Roos in there just long enough to burn the hair off them, dragged them out and chopped them up, seasoned them with Lemon Myrlte, and served them with a nice Shiraz – Because they invented that, too.
Only the slowest and sickest blokes had to endure burnt meat and un-masculine horse piss like Pino Grigio.
Rule 303 said:
sibeen said:
Tamb said:This explains men’s love of BBQs.
And this current wankery with serving up your steak rare, it’s against nature. A well done steak is food for the brane.
Pffft. Haven’t you heard of the Barossa Dreaming?
Barbequeing was invented when a mob of Pitjantjatjara blokes chased some ‘Roos into a patch of scrub and set it alight. They left the Roos in there just long enough to burn the hair off them, dragged them out and chopped them up, seasoned them with Lemon Myrlte, and served them with a nice Shiraz – Because they invented that, too.
Only the slowest and sickest blokes had to endure burnt meat and un-masculine horse piss like Pino Grigio.
What’s the correct pronunciation of Kotvojs? I’ve heard a couple of versions.
dv said:
What’s the correct pronunciation of Kotvojs? I’ve heard a couple of versions.
Silent J? No idea…
furious said:
dv said:
What’s the correct pronunciation of Kotvojs? I’ve heard a couple of versions.
Silent J? No idea…
My bank wont let me buy something from China.
Peak Warming Man said:
My bank wont let me buy something from China.
Is it a child?
Rule 303 said:
Peak Warming Man said:
My bank wont let me buy something from China.
Is it a child?
Pangolin…
furious said:
Rule 303 said:
Peak Warming Man said:
My bank wont let me buy something from China.
Is it a child?
Pangolin…
that once belonged to captain corelli.
furious said:
Rule 303 said:
Peak Warming Man said:
My bank wont let me buy something from China.
Is it a child?
Pangolin…
Winnie The Poo toy
Bogsnorkler said:
furious said:
Rule 303 said:Is it a child?
Pangolin…
that once belonged to captain corelli.
No, silly, he had a mandarin.
Divine Angel said:
Bogsnorkler said:
furious said:Pangolin…
that once belonged to captain corelli.
No, silly, he had a mandarin.
I thought he was a Manderin
It’s a drone, my bank intervenes in the transaction and asks what my mothers maiden name is, I give it that but it says it’s wrong and cancels the transaction. If it hasn’t cancelled the transactions I’ve got 5 drones on the way.
friendly quiet clucking
barbara’s wandered in for hello
you better not shit in here lady says
just ate part my onion sandwich so doubtful’s hungry
Peak Warming Man said:
It’s a drone, my bank intervenes in the transaction and asks what my mothers maiden name is, I give it that but it says it’s wrong and cancels the transaction. If it hasn’t cancelled the transactions I’ve got 5 drones on the way.
It is the bank’s way of telling you that you were adopted…
Peak Warming Man said:
It’s a drone, my bank intervenes in the transaction and asks what my mothers maiden name is, I give it that but it says it’s wrong and cancels the transaction. If it hasn’t cancelled the transactions I’ve got 5 drones on the way.
You’d get order tracking telling you how many are being shipped
Peak Warming Man said:
It’s a drone, my bank intervenes in the transaction and asks what my mothers maiden name is, I give it that but it says it’s wrong and cancels the transaction. If it hasn’t cancelled the transactions I’ve got 5 drones on the way.
LOL.
Peak Warming Man said:
My bank wont let me buy something from China.
Why is that?
Peak Warming Man said:
It’s a drone, my bank intervenes in the transaction and asks what my mothers maiden name is, I give it that but it says it’s wrong and cancels the transaction. If it hasn’t cancelled the transactions I’ve got 5 drones on the way.
Peak Warming Man said:
It’s a drone, my bank intervenes in the transaction and asks what my mothers maiden name is, I give it that but it says it’s wrong and cancels the transaction. If it hasn’t cancelled the transactions I’ve got 5 drones on the way.
Be careful. The Chinese have got drones now that they can turn against their owners….
Divine Angel said:
Peak Warming Man said:
It’s a drone, my bank intervenes in the transaction and asks what my mothers maiden name is, I give it that but it says it’s wrong and cancels the transaction. If it hasn’t cancelled the transactions I’ve got 5 drones on the way.
chuckle
Peak Warming Man said:
It’s a drone, my bank intervenes in the transaction and asks what my mothers maiden name is, I give it that but it says it’s wrong and cancels the transaction. If it hasn’t cancelled the transactions I’ve got 5 drones on the way.
5 drones. Why?
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
It’s a drone, my bank intervenes in the transaction and asks what my mothers maiden name is, I give it that but it says it’s wrong and cancels the transaction. If it hasn’t cancelled the transactions I’ve got 5 drones on the way.
5 drones. Why?
to take over the world of course.
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
It’s a drone, my bank intervenes in the transaction and asks what my mothers maiden name is, I give it that but it says it’s wrong and cancels the transaction. If it hasn’t cancelled the transactions I’ve got 5 drones on the way.
5 drones. Why?
Well I’ve tried to buy the drone 5 times.
I reckon 5 drones is enough to lift a pug. Anyone got one we can practise on?
Divine Angel said:
I reckon 5 drones is enough to lift a pug. Anyone got one we can practise on?
With five drones you could pick up a normal dog and bang it into a wall at high speed so it looks like a pug.
Divine Angel said:
I reckon 5 drones is enough to lift a pug. Anyone got one we can practise on?
Here is one I prepared earlier. He is Bushpugging.
Anyway, I’m back inside to get some pea seeds. I somehow didn’t weed the bit of garden I intended to weed. But the asparagus beds, which I cut back yesterday, are now sheep pooed and mulched with old pea straw. And a different bit of garden is weeded out. Hence time to plant some snap and snow pea seeds along the fence between us and Auntie Annie’s. I looooove snap peas.
Peak Warming Man said:
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
It’s a drone, my bank intervenes in the transaction and asks what my mothers maiden name is, I give it that but it says it’s wrong and cancels the transaction. If it hasn’t cancelled the transactions I’ve got 5 drones on the way.
5 drones. Why?
Well I’ve tried to buy the drone 5 times.
Oh, I see. Have you remembered your mother’s maiden name yet?
buffy said:
Divine Angel said:
I reckon 5 drones is enough to lift a pug. Anyone got one we can practise on?
Here is one I prepared earlier. He is Bushpugging.
Aww look at him! 😍
Divine Angel said:
I reckon 5 drones is enough to lift a pug. Anyone got one we can practise on?
LOL
Rule 303 said:
Divine Angel said:
I reckon 5 drones is enough to lift a pug. Anyone got one we can practise on?
With five drones you could pick up a normal dog and bang it into a wall at high speed so it looks like a pug.
PMSL again.
:)
Divine Angel said:
I reckon 5 drones is enough to lift a pug. Anyone got one we can practise on?
I’ve got one that can lift about 5 kg or so.
Transport of the mails, transport of the human voice, transport of flickering pictures, the internet — in this century, as in others, our highest accomplishments still have the single aim of bringing men together. -Antoine de Saint-Exupery, author and aviator (29 Jun 1900-1944)
Bogsnorkler said:
Transport of the mails, transport of the human voice, transport of flickering pictures, the internet — in this century, as in others, our highest accomplishments still have the single aim of bringing men together. -Antoine de Saint-Exupery, author and aviator (29 Jun 1900-1944)
the internet?
Bogsnorkler said:
Transport of the mails, transport of the human voice, transport of flickering pictures, the internet — in this century, as in others, our highest accomplishments still have the single aim of bringing men together. -Antoine de Saint-Exupery, author and aviator (29 Jun 1900-1944)
Scratches head.
the internet?
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Transport of the mails, transport of the human voice, transport of flickering pictures, the internet — in this century, as in others, our highest accomplishments still have the single aim of bringing men together. -Antoine de Saint-Exupery, author and aviator (29 Jun 1900-1944)
Scratches head.
the internet?
well, poetic license on my part. just to see who reads my posts.
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
It’s a drone, my bank intervenes in the transaction and asks what my mothers maiden name is, I give it that but it says it’s wrong and cancels the transaction. If it hasn’t cancelled the transactions I’ve got 5 drones on the way.
5 drones. Why?
Armed with AK47s and a couple of small thermo nuclear devices. Chinese you know. They reckon we’re spies tryin’ to hack their stuff, and Mr Man is now prime suspect.
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Transport of the mails, transport of the human voice, transport of flickering pictures, the internet — in this century, as in others, our highest accomplishments still have the single aim of bringing men together. -Antoine de Saint-Exupery, author and aviator (29 Jun 1900-1944)
Scratches head.
the internet?
well, poetic license on my part. just to see who reads my posts.
Just me an Michael.
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Transport of the mails, transport of the human voice, transport of flickering pictures, the internet — in this century, as in others, our highest accomplishments still have the single aim of bringing men together. -Antoine de Saint-Exupery, author and aviator (29 Jun 1900-1944)
Scratches head.
the internet?
well, poetic license on my part. just to see who reads my posts.
Ah.
Woodie said:
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
It’s a drone, my bank intervenes in the transaction and asks what my mothers maiden name is, I give it that but it says it’s wrong and cancels the transaction. If it hasn’t cancelled the transactions I’ve got 5 drones on the way.
5 drones. Why?
Armed with AK47s and a couple of small thermo nuclear devices. Chinese you know. They reckon we’re spies tryin’ to hack their stuff, and Mr Man is now prime suspect.
Oh dear…
I’m thinking of a small roast for tea, I’ll go down to Coles and see what they have.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:Scratches head.
the internet?
well, poetic license on my part. just to see who reads my posts.
Just me an Michael.
and eventually, Buffy
Peak Warming Man said:
I’m thinking of a small roast for tea, I’ll go down to Coles and see what they have.
you suck and so does your hat..
Arts said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I’m thinking of a small roast for tea, I’ll go down to Coles and see what they have.
you suck and so does your hat..
Well that escalated quickly.
sibeen said:
Arts said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I’m thinking of a small roast for tea, I’ll go down to Coles and see what they have.
you suck and so does your hat..
Well that escalated quickly.
he said a small roast.
Arts said:
Peak Warming Man said:
I’m thinking of a small roast for tea, I’ll go down to Coles and see what they have.
you suck and so does your hat..
Oh, nice…
Arts said:
sibeen said:
Arts said:you suck and so does your hat..
Well that escalated quickly.
he said a small roast.
From Coles apparently, not from you.
Michael V said:
Arts said:
sibeen said:Well that escalated quickly.
he said a small roast.
From Coles apparently, not from you.
I was trying to save him the trip
Arts said:
Michael V said:
Arts said:he said a small roast.
From Coles apparently, not from you.
I was trying to save him the trip
Ah!
A generous small roast.
;)
Peak Warming Man said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:Scratches head.
the internet?
well, poetic license on my part. just to see who reads my posts.
Just me an Michael.
Yeah. Not me.
Arts said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Bogsnorkler said:well, poetic license on my part. just to see who reads my posts.
Just me an Michael.
and eventually, Buffy
Yes, you are right.
:)
https://www.sciencealert.com/a-vast-garden-of-soft-corals-has-been-found-off-the-coast-of-greenland
Food report: Dunno. Mr buffy is cook. There are pork sausages on the bench and he said something about mashed potato and peas.
Michael V said:
https://www.sciencealert.com/a-vast-garden-of-soft-corals-has-been-found-off-the-coast-of-greenland
I wonder if we could sell what’s left of the GBR to Denmark.
Ian said:
Michael V said:
https://www.sciencealert.com/a-vast-garden-of-soft-corals-has-been-found-off-the-coast-of-greenland
I wonder if we could sell what’s left of the GBR to Denmark.
Two trillion dollars (to balance the budget, of course).
buffy said:
Food report: Dunno. Mr buffy is cook. There are pork sausages on the bench and he said something about mashed potato and peas.
We’re probably having leftovers unless Mr Mutant wants to cook something.
Michael V said:
Ian said:
Michael V said:
https://www.sciencealert.com/a-vast-garden-of-soft-corals-has-been-found-off-the-coast-of-greenland
I wonder if we could sell what’s left of the GBR to Denmark.
Two trillion dollars (to balance the budget, of course).
But…but…where’s the Surplus?
There was supposed to be a Surplus. A Holy Sacred Surplus.
For a long time, it was all about the Surplus.
Get a Surplus going and it’d all be ok.
The economy would hum along, international relations would be hunky-dory, the electorate would adore the government, and Tinkerbell would be OK.
Balancing isn’t enough.
We need the Surplus.
New laptop has been ordered and I have cleared up almost all of the odds-and-ends for EOFY.
We will have leftovers for dinner tonight, a choice between roast chicken, veg and baked cauliflower, or lasagne with make-your-own salad.
Then I think I will finally get to the ironing, which has become mountainous. My brother and his partner are likely to visit tomorrow afternoon, as she has a specialist appointment in Sydney tomorrow. Getting some of that ironing done at least makes me feel a little better when we have visitors, although I don’t think anyone really notices or cares.
Speedy said:
New laptop has been ordered and I have cleared up almost all of the odds-and-ends for EOFY.We will have leftovers for dinner tonight, a choice between roast chicken, veg and baked cauliflower, or lasagne with make-your-own salad.
Then I think I will finally get to the ironing, which has become mountainous. My brother and his partner are likely to visit tomorrow afternoon, as she has a specialist appointment in Sydney tomorrow. Getting some of that ironing done at least makes me feel a little better when we have visitors, although I don’t think anyone really notices or cares.
I’d secretly judge you for having not done it ;)

captain_spalding said:
:)
well, the laksa turned out ok. going for a second bowl.
some brocolli
some chillies
some leek
some bok choy
1 clove garlic
ginger
2 pork medallions finely sliced
coat pork in cornflour. wok pork in peanut oil. when brownish add chillies. add broc and leek and bok choy. add garlic. add some of the laksa stock to deglaze wok.
heat laksa stock and add a laksa paste. when hot add egg noodles and some sesame oil.
when everything is cooked proper, combine.
poikilotherm said:
Speedy said:
New laptop has been ordered and I have cleared up almost all of the odds-and-ends for EOFY.We will have leftovers for dinner tonight, a choice between roast chicken, veg and baked cauliflower, or lasagne with make-your-own salad.
Then I think I will finally get to the ironing, which has become mountainous. My brother and his partner are likely to visit tomorrow afternoon, as she has a specialist appointment in Sydney tomorrow. Getting some of that ironing done at least makes me feel a little better when we have visitors, although I don’t think anyone really notices or cares.
I’d secretly judge you for having not done it ;)
:)
I think I once saved a friend’s sanity when our kids were little. She asked me how I kept my house so clean and tidy, as hers was always a mess, and I explained that it’s a simple case of panic whenever we have visitors.
* Makes note to meet poik far from home if we ever get to meet, as that ironing is visible from a great distanceSpeedy said:
poikilotherm said:
Speedy said:
New laptop has been ordered and I have cleared up almost all of the odds-and-ends for EOFY.We will have leftovers for dinner tonight, a choice between roast chicken, veg and baked cauliflower, or lasagne with make-your-own salad.
Then I think I will finally get to the ironing, which has become mountainous. My brother and his partner are likely to visit tomorrow afternoon, as she has a specialist appointment in Sydney tomorrow. Getting some of that ironing done at least makes me feel a little better when we have visitors, although I don’t think anyone really notices or cares.
I’d secretly judge you for having not done it ;)
:)
I think I once saved a friend’s sanity when our kids were little. She asked me how I kept my house so clean and tidy, as hers was always a mess, and I explained that it’s a simple case of panic whenever we have visitors.
* Makes note to meet poik far from home if we ever get to meet, as that ironing is visible from a great distance
Haha.
Seems to be fairly common the panic clean, and not just among those with children.
poikilotherm said:
Speedy said:
poikilotherm said:I’d secretly judge you for having not done it ;)
:)
I think I once saved a friend’s sanity when our kids were little. She asked me how I kept my house so clean and tidy, as hers was always a mess, and I explained that it’s a simple case of panic whenever we have visitors.
* Makes note to meet poik far from home if we ever get to meet, as that ironing is visible from a great distanceHaha.
Seems to be fairly common the panic clean, and not just among those with children.
There’s a term for it that I can’t remember. I’ll post it here when I do :)
Did we know that Neil Young married Daryl Hannah about 18 months ago?
Rule 303 said:
Did we know that Neil Young married Daryl Hannah about 18 months ago?
I did not. Surprising really as my knowledge of events like these is above the ordinary.
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
Did we know that Neil Young married Daryl Hannah about 18 months ago?
I did not. Surprising really as my knowledge of events like these is above the ordinary.
I’d be surprised if anyone here knew who Neil Young and Daryl Hannah were.
Divine Angel said:
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
Did we know that Neil Young married Daryl Hannah about 18 months ago?
I did not. Surprising really as my knowledge of events like these is above the ordinary.
I’d be surprised if anyone here knew who Neil Young and Daryl Hannah were.
Played in Buffalo Springfield.
Divine Angel said:
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
Did we know that Neil Young married Daryl Hannah about 18 months ago?
I did not. Surprising really as my knowledge of events like these is above the ordinary.
I’d be surprised if anyone here knew who Neil Young and Daryl Hannah were.
I was a little pleased to find out that Chris Hayes is married to Kate Shaw.
Divine Angel said:
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
Did we know that Neil Young married Daryl Hannah about 18 months ago?
I did not. Surprising really as my knowledge of events like these is above the ordinary.
I’d be surprised if anyone here knew who Neil Young and Daryl Hannah were.
>Waits for ten people to proudly announce that they have never heard of either<
Cue Bubblecar in 3, 2, 1…
Divine Angel said:
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
Did we know that Neil Young married Daryl Hannah about 18 months ago?
I did not. Surprising really as my knowledge of events like these is above the ordinary.
I’d be surprised if anyone here knew who Neil Young and Daryl Hannah were.
Wasn’t Daryl Hannah the one who missed out on the Apollo 13 mission?
Divine Angel said:
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
Did we know that Neil Young married Daryl Hannah about 18 months ago?
I did not. Surprising really as my knowledge of events like these is above the ordinary.
I’d be surprised if anyone here knew who Neil Young and Daryl Hannah were.
I would think that even this set knows who Neil Young is. He’s only slightly after their time.
dv said:
Divine Angel said:
sibeen said:I did not. Surprising really as my knowledge of events like these is above the ordinary.
I’d be surprised if anyone here knew who Neil Young and Daryl Hannah were.
I was a little pleased to find out that Chris Hayes is married to Kate Shaw.
These two I have never heard of :)
Speedy said:
Divine Angel said:
sibeen said:I did not. Surprising really as my knowledge of events like these is above the ordinary.
I’d be surprised if anyone here knew who Neil Young and Daryl Hannah were.
Wasn’t Daryl Hannah the one who missed out on the Apollo 13 mission?
well, they couldn’t hold enough water on the craft for her.
Divine Angel said:
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
Did we know that Neil Young married Daryl Hannah about 18 months ago?
I did not. Surprising really as my knowledge of events like these is above the ordinary.
I’d be surprised if anyone here knew who Neil Young and Daryl Hannah were.
Well I know who Neil is, he’s mates with Crosby Stills and Nash.
I don’t know who the other bloke is.
sibeen said:
dv said:
Divine Angel said:I’d be surprised if anyone here knew who Neil Young and Daryl Hannah were.
I was a little pleased to find out that Chris Hayes is married to Kate Shaw.
These two I have never heard of :)
chris hayes is isaac hayes son.
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:
dv said:I was a little pleased to find out that Chris Hayes is married to Kate Shaw.
These two I have never heard of :)
chris hayes is isaac hayes son.
And Kate Shaw is Liz Shaw’s cousin
dv said:
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:These two I have never heard of :)
chris hayes is isaac hayes son.
And Kate Shaw is Liz Shaw’s cousin
Not helping :)
sibeen said:
dv said:
Bogsnorkler said:chris hayes is isaac hayes son.
And Kate Shaw is Liz Shaw’s cousin
Not helping :)
liz was in dr who.
isaac hayes had a big hit in the seventies, pretty much a one off I think.
Rule 303 said:
Did we know that Neil Young married Daryl Hannah about 18 months ago?
Neil and Daryl, hey. Nice to see some same sex marraiges happening.
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:
dv said:And Kate Shaw is Liz Shaw’s cousin
Not helping :)
liz was in dr who.
Bloke on Mastermind had his special subject as the 9th and 10th Dr Whos.
He knew fuck all.
Peak Warming Man said:
isaac hayes had a big hit in the seventies, pretty much a one off I think.
He was a complicated man, but no one understood him but his woman.
Peak Warming Man said:
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:Not helping :)
liz was in dr who.
Bloke on Mastermind had his special subject as the 9th and 10th Dr Whos.
He knew fuck all.
Disgraceful.
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:
dv said:And Kate Shaw is Liz Shaw’s cousin
Not helping :)
liz was in dr who.
I gave up Dr Who when Tom Baker left. Wouldn’t have a clue who was in it after that.
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:Not helping :)
liz was in dr who.
I gave up Dr Who when Tom Baker left. Wouldn’t have a clue who was in it after that.
You should go on Mastermind.
Peak Warming Man said:
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:liz was in dr who.
I gave up Dr Who when Tom Baker left. Wouldn’t have a clue who was in it after that.
You should go on Mastermind.
ROFL
Peak Warming Man said:
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:liz was in dr who.
I gave up Dr Who when Tom Baker left. Wouldn’t have a clue who was in it after that.
You should go on Mastermind.
the irish mastermind?
isaac hayes hit was the theme from Shaft.
Also the theme from Car Wash was sung by Rose Royce.
(another Booker T moment)
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:
sibeen said:Not helping :)
liz was in dr who.
I gave up Dr Who when Tom Baker left. Wouldn’t have a clue who was in it after that.
Hang on…are you Bubblecar in disguise?
Peak Warming Man said:
isaac hayes hit was the theme from Shaft.
Also the theme from Car Wash was sung by Rose Royce.
(another Booker T moment)
booker t and the mgs
So… did moll end up cutting down that tree?
https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/man-51-amputates-own-leg-in-horror-workplace-accident/news-story/73d22196b2f609d8bb315db543bd6794
Speedy said:
Divine Angel said:
sibeen said:I did not. Surprising really as my knowledge of events like these is above the ordinary.
I’d be surprised if anyone here knew who Neil Young and Daryl Hannah were.
Wasn’t Daryl Hannah the one who missed out on the Apollo 13 mission?
I’m pretty sure that Neil Young was on Apollo 11.
captain_spalding said:
Speedy said:
Divine Angel said:I’d be surprised if anyone here knew who Neil Young and Daryl Hannah were.
Wasn’t Daryl Hannah the one who missed out on the Apollo 13 mission?
I’m pretty sure that Neil Young was on Apollo 11.
Nah, that was Lance Armstrong with Buzz Lightyear and Phil Collins.
captain_spalding said:
Speedy said:
Divine Angel said:I’d be surprised if anyone here knew who Neil Young and Daryl Hannah were.
Wasn’t Daryl Hannah the one who missed out on the Apollo 13 mission?
I’m pretty sure that Neil Young was on Apollo 11.
yeah, Buzz was the second man on the moon, neil before him,.
Well, i know that that Captain Phillips bloke was aboard Apollo13. Must have been before he took up being a sea captain, but you’d have thought he’d learn his lesson after being stuck on that island.
Bogsnorkler said:
captain_spalding said:
Speedy said:Wasn’t Daryl Hannah the one who missed out on the Apollo 13 mission?
I’m pretty sure that Neil Young was on Apollo 11.
yeah, Buzz was the second man on the moon, neil before him,.
Dude.
captain_spalding said:
Well, i know that that Captain Phillips bloke was aboard Apollo13. Must have been before he took up being a sea captain, but you’d have thought he’d learn his lesson after being stuck on that island.
With Wilson, fer gawd’s sake.
captain_spalding said:
Well, i know that that Captain Phillips bloke was aboard Apollo13. Must have been before he took up being a sea captain, but you’d have thought he’d learn his lesson after being stuck on that island.
Yeah well you’d think Liam Neeson would’ve learned to protect his family better yet they were Taken 3 times.
Peak Warming Man said:
Divine Angel said:
sibeen said:I did not. Surprising really as my knowledge of events like these is above the ordinary.
I’d be surprised if anyone here knew who Neil Young and Daryl Hannah were.
Well I know who Neil is, he’s mates with Crosby Stills and Nash.
I don’t know who the other bloke is.
Same here.
I didn’t even know that Neil Young was gay.
Divine Angel said:
captain_spalding said:
Well, i know that that Captain Phillips bloke was aboard Apollo13. Must have been before he took up being a sea captain, but you’d have thought he’d learn his lesson after being stuck on that island.
Yeah well you’d think Liam Neeson would’ve learned to protect his family better yet they were Taken 3 times.
That’s what i was thinking.
Lock the buggers in a cellar, Liam. They’d be vastly less trouble to you that way.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Divine Angel said:I’d be surprised if anyone here knew who Neil Young and Daryl Hannah were.
Well I know who Neil is, he’s mates with Crosby Stills and Nash.
I don’t know who the other bloke is.
Same here.
I didn’t even know that Neil Young was gay.
If he is, i bet he got a big surprise.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:
Divine Angel said:I’d be surprised if anyone here knew who Neil Young and Daryl Hannah were.
Well I know who Neil is, he’s mates with Crosby Stills and Nash.
I don’t know who the other bloke is.
Same here.
I didn’t even know that Neil Young was gay.
Just noticed DA’s comment there.
Little does she know that Neil Young almost matches the legendary status of the people like Davy Graham and Richard Thompson.
The Rev Dodgson said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Peak Warming Man said:Well I know who Neil is, he’s mates with Crosby Stills and Nash.
I don’t know who the other bloke is.
Same here.
I didn’t even know that Neil Young was gay.
Just noticed DA’s comment there.
Little does she know that Neil Young almost matches the legendary status of the people like Davy Graham and Richard Thompson.
I see your popular reference and raise you a, “Are you makin’ fun of me, Riz?”
Divine Angel said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
The Rev Dodgson said:Same here.
I didn’t even know that Neil Young was gay.
Just noticed DA’s comment there.
Little does she know that Neil Young almost matches the legendary status of the people like Davy Graham and Richard Thompson.
I see your popular reference and raise you a, “Are you makin’ fun of me, Riz?”
OK, you win :)
captain_spalding said:
Well, i know that that Captain Phillips bloke was aboard Apollo13. Must have been before he took up being a sea captain, but you’d have thought he’d learn his lesson after being stuck on that island.
Before tragically succumbing to AIDS
Just took the rubbish bin out. Don’t trust that collector. Although it seems it is only the recycle bin they do at ungodly hour.
It’s 5 degrees out there and there is a bite in the air. The sky is clear, but the moon is blinding out a lot of stars. I can see a couple of planets just come up just South of East. And I can find the Southern Cross where is usually is to be found. Can’t sort out any other constellations. I’ve never really been able to see the patterns.
buffy said:
Just took the rubbish bin out. Don’t trust that collector. Although it seems it is only the recycle bin they do at ungodly hour.It’s 5 degrees out there and there is a bite in the air. The sky is clear, but the moon is blinding out a lot of stars. I can see a couple of planets just come up just South of East. And I can find the Southern Cross where is usually is to be found. Can’t sort out any other constellations. I’ve never really been able to see the patterns.
Not even Orion or Scorpius? At least Scorpius looks like a scorpion.
Divine Angel said:
buffy said:
Just took the rubbish bin out. Don’t trust that collector. Although it seems it is only the recycle bin they do at ungodly hour.It’s 5 degrees out there and there is a bite in the air. The sky is clear, but the moon is blinding out a lot of stars. I can see a couple of planets just come up just South of East. And I can find the Southern Cross where is usually is to be found. Can’t sort out any other constellations. I’ve never really been able to see the patterns.
Not even Orion or Scorpius? At least Scorpius looks like a scorpion.
I can generally find Orion’s belt. He seems to be hunting somewhere else at the moment. Here is what we’ve got out there:
https://www.heavens-above.com/skychart2.aspx?lat=-37.8749&lng=142.3004&loc=Gazette+VIC+3289%2c+Australia&alt=232&tz=AEST
dv said:
captain_spalding said:
Well, i know that that Captain Phillips bloke was aboard Apollo13. Must have been before he took up being a sea captain, but you’d have thought he’d learn his lesson after being stuck on that island.
Before tragically succumbing to AIDS
He did fight in the Vietnam war, run all the way across America, and start a large shrimping business, of course.
buffy said:
Divine Angel said:
buffy said:
Just took the rubbish bin out. Don’t trust that collector. Although it seems it is only the recycle bin they do at ungodly hour.It’s 5 degrees out there and there is a bite in the air. The sky is clear, but the moon is blinding out a lot of stars. I can see a couple of planets just come up just South of East. And I can find the Southern Cross where is usually is to be found. Can’t sort out any other constellations. I’ve never really been able to see the patterns.
Not even Orion or Scorpius? At least Scorpius looks like a scorpion.
I can generally find Orion’s belt. He seems to be hunting somewhere else at the moment. Here is what we’ve got out there:
https://www.heavens-above.com/skychart2.aspx?lat=-37.8749&lng=142.3004&loc=Gazette+VIC+3289%2c+Australia&alt=232&tz=AEST
I cheat and use an app.
Current western sky.
Divine Angel said:
Current western sky.
(I rotated the image so the compass is off)
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-29/dog-revived-after-mouth-to-mouth-on-adelaide-beach/12402082
Gradual renal failure can do this to a dog. Our ephemeral Lady Sybil who lived with us for only 8 weeks loved to run. But would then collapse unconscious. And you just sat with her for a few moments and she would come round. The vet told us it was part of the deal. Quite confronting the first time it happened.
Divine Angel said:
Divine Angel said:
Current western sky.
(I rotated the image so the compass is off)
I tend to look South. Fewer street lights in that direction. And looking West presently has a lot of moonshine in the way.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-29/coronavirus-multilingual-australia-missing-out-covid-19-info/12403510
There is a problem with this reasoning. Apparently the messages were getting through prior to the beginning of restriction easing. Because it all went very well. Why would things now be any different. I don’t know what TV people watch, but we watch quite a bit of SBS, so I’ve seen stuff in many languages for months now. The ads were pretty repetitious. Fewer of them now though, I guess.
Our house faces west so we tend to look there. Streetlights around everywhere.
Out at dad’s place it’s very dark, can see the Milky Way if it’s high enough. He has some very tall trees around his place.
Divine Angel said:
Our house faces west so we tend to look there. Streetlights around everywhere.Out at dad’s place it’s very dark, can see the Milky Way if it’s high enough. He has some very tall trees around his place.
It’s funny…we can pretty much always see the Milky Way. I just assume everyone can.
:)
An engineering question that Speedy Jnr is stuck on …
A man of mass 75kg sits on a sled being pulled by a mule. The mule exerts a constant horizontal pull of 250N and the sled moves with a constant velocity of 0.5m/s. At what rate is:
i. the man working
ii the mule working
He knows how to calculate work (I have no idea what the term means in this context) but doesn’t know how to calculate the rate.
Speedy said:
An engineering question that Speedy Jnr is stuck on …A man of mass 75kg sits on a sled being pulled by a mule. The mule exerts a constant horizontal pull of 250N and the sled moves with a constant velocity of 0.5m/s. At what rate is:
i. the man working
ii the mule workingHe knows how to calculate work (I have no idea what the term means in this context) but doesn’t know how to calculate the rate.
Power is the rate at which work is done. It should be a unit of work divided by a unit of time.
Speedy said:
An engineering question that Speedy Jnr is stuck on …A man of mass 75kg sits on a sled being pulled by a mule. The mule exerts a constant horizontal pull of 250N and the sled moves with a constant velocity of 0.5m/s. At what rate is:
i. the man working
ii the mule workingHe knows how to calculate work (I have no idea what the term means in this context) but doesn’t know how to calculate the rate.
The rate is just work/time, so multiply the mass by the distance moved in one second to get work/second.
BTW, since we don’t know the mass of the sled, we can’t work out the work done by the mule, even ignoring its own mass.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Speedy said:
An engineering question that Speedy Jnr is stuck on …A man of mass 75kg sits on a sled being pulled by a mule. The mule exerts a constant horizontal pull of 250N and the sled moves with a constant velocity of 0.5m/s. At what rate is:
i. the man working
ii the mule workingHe knows how to calculate work (I have no idea what the term means in this context) but doesn’t know how to calculate the rate.
The rate is just work/time, so multiply the mass by the distance moved in one second to get work/second.
BTW, since we don’t know the mass of the sled, we can’t work out the work done by the mule, even ignoring its own mass.
Sorry, force x distance, not mass, so ignore the second bit too, the mass of the sled (and the man) is not needed.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Speedy said:
An engineering question that Speedy Jnr is stuck on …A man of mass 75kg sits on a sled being pulled by a mule. The mule exerts a constant horizontal pull of 250N and the sled moves with a constant velocity of 0.5m/s. At what rate is:
i. the man working
ii the mule workingHe knows how to calculate work (I have no idea what the term means in this context) but doesn’t know how to calculate the rate.
The rate is just work/time, so multiply the mass by the distance moved in one second to get work/second.
BTW, since we don’t know the mass of the sled, we can’t work out the work done by the mule, even ignoring its own mass.
substitute a spherical cow for the mule and assume a frictionless sled.
Bogsnorkler said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Speedy said:
An engineering question that Speedy Jnr is stuck on …A man of mass 75kg sits on a sled being pulled by a mule. The mule exerts a constant horizontal pull of 250N and the sled moves with a constant velocity of 0.5m/s. At what rate is:
i. the man working
ii the mule workingHe knows how to calculate work (I have no idea what the term means in this context) but doesn’t know how to calculate the rate.
The rate is just work/time, so multiply the mass by the distance moved in one second to get work/second.
BTW, since we don’t know the mass of the sled, we can’t work out the work done by the mule, even ignoring its own mass.
substitute a spherical cow for the mule and assume a frictionless sled.
I think I’ve confused things enough already, without you joining in :)
party_pants said:
Speedy said:
An engineering question that Speedy Jnr is stuck on …A man of mass 75kg sits on a sled being pulled by a mule. The mule exerts a constant horizontal pull of 250N and the sled moves with a constant velocity of 0.5m/s. At what rate is:
i. the man working
ii the mule workingHe knows how to calculate work (I have no idea what the term means in this context) but doesn’t know how to calculate the rate.
Power is the rate at which work is done. It should be a unit of work divided by a unit of time.
Force times velocity is time. 125 W is the work exerted by the beast. The man is not working.
dv said:
party_pants said:
Speedy said:
An engineering question that Speedy Jnr is stuck on …A man of mass 75kg sits on a sled being pulled by a mule. The mule exerts a constant horizontal pull of 250N and the sled moves with a constant velocity of 0.5m/s. At what rate is:
i. the man working
ii the mule workingHe knows how to calculate work (I have no idea what the term means in this context) but doesn’t know how to calculate the rate.
Power is the rate at which work is done. It should be a unit of work divided by a unit of time.
Force times velocity is time. 125 W is the work exerted by the beast. The man is not working.
What the fuck
Force times velocity is POWER. 125 W is the work exerted by the beast. The man is not working.
dv said:
dv said:
party_pants said:Power is the rate at which work is done. It should be a unit of work divided by a unit of time.
Force times velocity is time. 125 W is the work exerted by the beast. The man is not working.
What the fuck
Force times velocity is POWER. 125 W is the work exerted by the beast. The man is not working.
you’ve definitely come to the right place for help speedy. we just need sibeen to convert to electrical units and the circle of confusion will be replete.
I decline to participate further in helpful activities.
party_pants said:
I decline to participate further in helpful activities.
in the circumstances that is helpful.
Speedy said:
An engineering question that Speedy Jnr is stuck on …A man of mass 75kg sits on a sled being pulled by a mule. The mule exerts a constant horizontal pull of 250N and the sled moves with a constant velocity of 0.5m/s. At what rate is:
i. the man working
ii the mule workingHe knows how to calculate work (I have no idea what the term means in this context) but doesn’t know how to calculate the rate.
Oh that’s easy, the answer is yellow
dv said:
dv said:
party_pants said:Power is the rate at which work is done. It should be a unit of work divided by a unit of time.
Force times velocity is time. 125 W is the work exerted by the beast. The man is not working.
What the fuck
Force times velocity is POWER. 125 W is the work exerted by the beast. The man is not working.
You’re falling apart man!!!
dv said:
dv said:
party_pants said:Power is the rate at which work is done. It should be a unit of work divided by a unit of time.
Force times velocity is time. 125 W is the work exerted by the beast. The man is not working.
What the fuck
Force times velocity is POWER. 125 W is the work exerted by the beast. The man is not working.
Okay thanks. I think he has it now as this post finally made some sense to him. He had already drawn a circle for the first part, which I didn’t realise was his actual answer, zero.
dv said:
dv said:
party_pants said:Power is the rate at which work is done. It should be a unit of work divided by a unit of time.
Force times velocity is time. 125 W is the work exerted by the beast. The man is not working.
What the fuck
Force times velocity is POWER. 125 W is the work exerted by the beast. The man is not working.
You are going to have to do way better than that if you want to better my confusion efforts.
Speedy said:
dv said:
dv said:Force times velocity is time. 125 W is the work exerted by the beast. The man is not working.
What the fuck
Force times velocity is POWER. 125 W is the work exerted by the beast. The man is not working.
Okay thanks. I think he has it now as this post finally made some sense to him. He had already drawn a circle for the first part, which I didn’t realise was his actual answer, zero.
No worries.
Hello.
monkey skipper said:
Hello.
Greetin’s
monkey skipper said:
Hello.
*waves
dv said:
monkey skipper said:
Hello.
Greetin’s
I thought you typed gremlins for a moment there…!
sarahs mum said:
monkey skipper said:
Hello.
*waves
hey sarah’s mum.
it is a tad cold in qld…and I don’t like it!
I should be grateful it is most likely frostbite temp in tassie about now…
Brisbane, Queensland
Updated a few minutes ago
11°C
Precipitation: 20%
Wind: 2 KMPH
Humidity: 83%
ClearMon 29, 11:15 PM
monkey skipper said:
sarahs mum said:
monkey skipper said:
Hello.
*waves
hey sarah’s mum.
it is a tad cold in qld…and I don’t like it!
I should be grateful it is most likely frostbite temp in tassie about now…
It has been cold here. It’s okay when you are putting carbon into the atmosphere.
Launceston, Tasmania
Updated a few minutes ago
5°C
Precipitation: 10%
Wind: 5 KMPH
Humidity: 93%
CloudyMon 29, 11:18 PM
sarahs mum said:
monkey skipper said:
sarahs mum said:*waves
hey sarah’s mum.
it is a tad cold in qld…and I don’t like it!
I should be grateful it is most likely frostbite temp in tassie about now…
It has been cold here. It’s okay when you are putting carbon into the atmosphere.
that’s the spirit!
:-)
dv said:
dv said:
party_pants said:Power is the rate at which work is done. It should be a unit of work divided by a unit of time.
Force times velocity is time. 125 W is the work exerted by the beast. The man is not working.
What the fuck
Force times velocity is POWER. 125 W is the work exerted by the beast. The man is not working.
No, no… You were right the first time. Force times velocity is time.
I brought the chart.
Hehe.
dv said:
monkey skipper said:
Hello.
Greetin’s
Alright. Who are you and what have you done with the real DV?
Rule 303 said:
dv said:
monkey skipper said:
Hello.
Greetin’s
Alright. Who are you and what have you done with the real DV?
He is usually social to me once a year or less. This is about typical! laughs. Meh. Life goes on..
Rule 303 said:
dv said:
monkey skipper said:
Hello.
Greetin’s
Alright. Who are you and what have you done with the real DV?
Is that you Kii?
https://youtu.be/6kOesPt7iBY
The latest from Randy
monkey skipper said:
Rule 303 said:
dv said:Greetin’s
Alright. Who are you and what have you done with the real DV?
He is usually social to me once a year or less. This is about typical! laughs. Meh. Life goes on..
I’m not much of a greeter usually.
sarahs mum said:
Rule 303 said:
dv said:Greetin’s
Alright. Who are you and what have you done with the real DV?
Is that you Kii?
Heh
dv said:
monkey skipper said:
Rule 303 said:Alright. Who are you and what have you done with the real DV?
He is usually social to me once a year or less. This is about typical! laughs. Meh. Life goes on..
I’m not much of a greeter usually.
You don’t have to be. I wasn’t offended.
What on earth are they building here?
https://i.imgur.com/idYYjeA.mp4
I wonder if I should give a greyhound a home. Apparently Covid has put more greyhounds on the surrender file with animal shelters.

PermeateFree said:
What on earth are they building here?https://i.imgur.com/idYYjeA.mp4
Interesting.
I have no idea. I can only guess.
My best guess is they are trying to model something artistic or sculptural on the rock face.
dv said:
sarahs mum said:
Rule 303 said:Alright. Who are you and what have you done with the real DV?
Is that you Kii?
Heh
:)
dv said:
https://youtu.be/6kOesPt7iBY
The latest from Randy
You were posting this while I was watching it load.
As interesting as you all are. I’m off to do something else.
ta ta for now!
few spots of rain, covered stuff up
kettle’s boiling, stay seated, don’t want a rush over the kettle, someone might get hurt
Wouldn’t know where to start planing for one of those.
https://i.imgur.com/xze5j6A.mp4
dv said:
party_pants said:
Speedy said:
An engineering question that Speedy Jnr is stuck on …A man of mass 75kg sits on a sled being pulled by a mule. The mule exerts a constant horizontal pull of 250N and the sled moves with a constant velocity of 0.5m/s. At what rate is:
i. the man working
ii the mule workingHe knows how to calculate work (I have no idea what the term means in this context) but doesn’t know how to calculate the rate.
Power is the rate at which work is done. It should be a unit of work divided by a unit of time.
Force times velocity is time. 125 W is the work exerted by the beast. The man is not working.
I would have thought, it could be said, the man on the sled is providing the weight to the sled for the frictional forces, like a braking force, no deceleration though (or acceleration), so there’s an equal force in opposition to that pulling the sled, any difference in the forces goes into the work of maintaining steady velocity
but it’s late, says the physics dunce
PermeateFree said:
Wouldn’t know where to start planing for one of those.https://i.imgur.com/xze5j6A.mp4
Now, that’s just showing off.
Morning. Currently 5 heading for 11, cloudy, light winds.
Fancy a substantial hot breakfast so I’m cooking up some high fibre penne to serve with chopped olives, onion, garlic, grated cheddar etc.
Bubblecar said:
Morning. Currently 5 heading for 11, cloudy, light winds.Fancy a substantial hot breakfast so I’m cooking up some high fibre penne to serve with chopped olives, onion, garlic, grated cheddar etc.
Which brand makes high fibre penne?
nnrlng
Clear skies. 9 heading for 21C
I don’t know what I’m doing out of bed.. could be the annoying cough when I lie flat
captain_spalding said:
PermeateFree said:
Wouldn’t know where to start planing for one of those.https://i.imgur.com/xze5j6A.mp4
Now, that’s just showing off.
Amazing. How’s it done? Some sort of poota trickery?
Ian said:
nnrlngClear skies. 9 heading for 21C
I don’t know what I’m doing out of bed.. could be the annoying cough when I lie flat
I can rarely lie flat these days which is annoying because I’ve slept flat on my back most of my life. I’m flat out sleeping a couple of hours at a time now.
Ian said:
captain_spalding said:
PermeateFree said:
Wouldn’t know where to start planing for one of those.https://i.imgur.com/xze5j6A.mp4
Now, that’s just showing off.
Amazing. How’s it done? Some sort of poota trickery?
laser? Those cuts are fn.
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
Morning. Currently 5 heading for 11, cloudy, light winds.Fancy a substantial hot breakfast so I’m cooking up some high fibre penne to serve with chopped olives, onion, garlic, grated cheddar etc.
Which brand makes high fibre penne?
Vetta.

It’s like Murdoch has 5 yr olds writing his “news”. Surely no one except kids are interested in great farts of the world.
Divine Angel said:
It’s like Murdoch has 5 yr olds writing his “news”. Surely no one except kids are interested in great farts of the world.
“What story does Rupert want us to lead with?”
“Run this, it should please the old fart.”
roughbarked said:
Ian said:
nnrlngClear skies. 9 heading for 21C
I don’t know what I’m doing out of bed.. could be the annoying cough when I lie flat
I can rarely lie flat these days which is annoying because I’ve slept flat on my back most of my life. I’m flat out sleeping a couple of hours at a time now.
That’s no good. I do 2, 3hr sleep doses.. more with luck. But that’s mainly down to lifestyle/bad habits.
Divine Angel said:
It’s like Murdoch has 5 yr olds writing his “news”. Surely no one except kids are interested in great farts of the world.
Ha.
I don’t think Chalmers will knock off Djokovic as favourite for the annual Verstappen award for biggest arseclown in sport.
:)
Good morning Holidayers. Presently 2 degrees, going for a 12 with possible showers.
“Hey Mini Me, what do you think daddy does for work?”
“He has meetings and prints out stuff I want.”
Bubblecar said:
roughbarked said:
Bubblecar said:
Morning. Currently 5 heading for 11, cloudy, light winds.Fancy a substantial hot breakfast so I’m cooking up some high fibre penne to serve with chopped olives, onion, garlic, grated cheddar etc.
Which brand makes high fibre penne?
Vetta.
Why not just buy the wholemeal pasta?
dv said:
dv said:
party_pants said:Power is the rate at which work is done. It should be a unit of work divided by a unit of time.
Force times velocity is time. 125 W is the work exerted by the beast. The man is not working.
What the fuck
Force times velocity is POWER. 125 W is the work exerted by the beast. The man is not working.
I remember doing these. It’s a long time ago. I’ve completely forgotten the formulae. I do remember working them out by knowing what units I was looking for. I also looked at that and went “the man is not working” but being unable to go further.
Ian said:
roughbarked said:
Ian said:
nnrlngClear skies. 9 heading for 21C
I don’t know what I’m doing out of bed.. could be the annoying cough when I lie flat
I can rarely lie flat these days which is annoying because I’ve slept flat on my back most of my life. I’m flat out sleeping a couple of hours at a time now.
That’s no good. I do 2, 3hr sleep doses.. more with luck. But that’s mainly down to lifestyle/bad habits.
My lifestyle habits aren’t the best either but my problems in this instance stem from all the top end or C section of the spinal column having degenerated or buggered discs, combined with torn bursa in shoulder.
monkey skipper said:
I wonder if I should give a greyhound a home. Apparently Covid has put more greyhounds on the surrender file with animal shelters.
We plan to do this. But not until The Pug dies of old age. You can’t rehouse a greyhound to a house with a small dog.
buffy said:
monkey skipper said:
I wonder if I should give a greyhound a home. Apparently Covid has put more greyhounds on the surrender file with animal shelters.
We plan to do this. But not until The Pug dies of old age. You can’t rehouse a greyhound to a house with a small dog.
Lady next door gave a greyhound a home and it shared with a corgi. Beautifully quiet animals are greyhounds. Much erroneously maligned. Sadly it died recently from liver failure.
This may be of interest/ https://www.australiansiloarttrail.com/siloart
Good morning everyone.
Bread baking day today. And paint-drip cleaning.
Michael V said:
Good morning everyone.Bread baking day today. And paint-drip cleaning.
But first:
C…o…f…f…e…e…
Divine Angel said:
It’s like Murdoch has 5 yr olds writing his “news”. Surely no one except kids are interested in great farts of the world.
Well, you were interested enough to re-post it! :)
roughbarked said:
Ian said:
roughbarked said:I can rarely lie flat these days which is annoying because I’ve slept flat on my back most of my life. I’m flat out sleeping a couple of hours at a time now.
That’s no good. I do 2, 3hr sleep doses.. more with luck. But that’s mainly down to lifestyle/bad habits.
My lifestyle habits aren’t the best either but my problems in this instance stem from all the top end or C section of the spinal column having degenerated or buggered discs, combined with torn bursa in shoulder.
Hmm. My spine has problems with nearly every level through multiple injuries, having scoliosis. I keep things loose these days by hanging around upside down, like a bat, often.
Michael V said:
Michael V said:
Good morning everyone.Bread baking day today. And paint-drip cleaning.
But first:
C…o…f…f…e…e…
Have already had four or five of those. Can’t do a lot at the moment, even take photos one left handed with phone.
Ian said:
roughbarked said:
Ian said:That’s no good. I do 2, 3hr sleep doses.. more with luck. But that’s mainly down to lifestyle/bad habits.
My lifestyle habits aren’t the best either but my problems in this instance stem from all the top end or C section of the spinal column having degenerated or buggered discs, combined with torn bursa in shoulder.
Hmm. My spine has problems with nearly every level through multiple injuries, having scoliosis. I keep things loose these days by hanging around upside down, like a bat, often.
Yeah. I’ve got to set up a hanging space. A stretching place. Maybe should look for used rack for sale ads? ;)
roughbarked said:
Ian said:
roughbarked said:My lifestyle habits aren’t the best either but my problems in this instance stem from all the top end or C section of the spinal column having degenerated or buggered discs, combined with torn bursa in shoulder.
Hmm. My spine has problems with nearly every level through multiple injuries, having scoliosis. I keep things loose these days by hanging around upside down, like a bat, often.
Yeah. I’ve got to set up a hanging space. A stretching place. Maybe should look for used rack for sale ads? ;)
Yep. If you can find used. I like my inverter.
:)
Ian said:
roughbarked said:
Ian said:Hmm. My spine has problems with nearly every level through multiple injuries, having scoliosis. I keep things loose these days by hanging around upside down, like a bat, often.
Yeah. I’ve got to set up a hanging space. A stretching place. Maybe should look for used rack for sale ads? ;)
Yep. If you can find used. I like my inverter.
:)
With eight previously fractured vertebrae and compressed discs everywhere, it is probably a wonder I can stand up at all.
https://twitter.com/weatherzone/status/1277499354404712450
Swirly stuff in the southwest
Make a good screen saver.. esp if out of head
roughbarked said:
Ian said:
roughbarked said:Yeah. I’ve got to set up a hanging space. A stretching place. Maybe should look for used rack for sale ads? ;)
Yep. If you can find used. I like my inverter.
:)
With eight previously fractured vertebrae and compressed discs everywhere, it is probably a wonder I can stand up at all.
How did you fracture your vertebrae?
dv said:
https://youtu.be/6kOesPt7iBY
The latest from Randy
Good one.
Divine Angel said:
“Hey Mini Me, what do you think daddy does for work?”
“He has meetings and prints out stuff I want.”
OK, so how does she get this insight into what goes on at the modern office at such a young age?
Ian said:
roughbarked said:
Ian said:Yep. If you can find used. I like my inverter.
:)
With eight previously fractured vertebrae and compressed discs everywhere, it is probably a wonder I can stand up at all.
How did you fracture your vertebrae?
By head butting the gutter and head standing before being wrapped backwards around a tree which was next in line of flight off the back of a motorbike piloted by an inebriated rider in 1972.
dv said:
LOL
roughbarked said:
Ian said:
roughbarked said:With eight previously fractured vertebrae and compressed discs everywhere, it is probably a wonder I can stand up at all.
How did you fracture your vertebrae?
By head butting the gutter and head standing before being wrapped backwards around a tree which was next in line of flight off the back of a motorbike piloted by an inebriated rider in 1972.
Ouch
dv said:
:)
dv said:
TATE on “The Art of the Deal”:
“Trump: The Art of the Deal is a 1987 book credited to Donald J. Trump and journalist Tony Schwartz. Part memoir and part business-advice book, it was the first book credited to Trump, and helped to make him a “household name”. It reached number 1 on The New York Times Best Seller list, stayed there for 13 weeks, and altogether held a position on the list for 48 weeks. The book received additional attention during Trump’s 2016 campaign for the presidency of the United States. He cited it as one of his proudest accomplishments and his second-favorite book after the Bible.
Schwartz called writing the book his “greatest regret in life, without question,” and both he and the book’s publisher, Howard Kaminsky, said that Trump had played no role in the actual writing of the book. Trump has personally given conflicting accounts on the question of authorship. Schwartz later suggested that the work be “recategorized as fiction”.”
Ian said:
roughbarked said:
Ian said:How did you fracture your vertebrae?
By head butting the gutter and head standing before being wrapped backwards around a tree which was next in line of flight off the back of a motorbike piloted by an inebriated rider in 1972.
Ouch
I’d say it was lucky I was handed a helmet by another friend before I got on the bike Otherwise…, well one could only be guessing but I could have gone to the other side.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Divine Angel said:
“Hey Mini Me, what do you think daddy does for work?”
“He has meetings and prints out stuff I want.”
OK, so how does she get this insight into what goes on at the modern office at such a young age?
What do people who do meaningless gobbledegook tell their children? People who have jobs that are not real, or have zero expectation of productivity, or exist as a matter of compliance with something else that doesn’t exist – What do they tell their kids?
barbara’s had breakfast, she sprinted after me as was heading for the kitchen, got her rolled oats, sometimes it’s broken up bread, sometimes a broken up salada, today it’s rolled oats, eats quite a heap in the morn
coffee landed, genius needs go out farm shortly check a few thing
breakfast for me, yours truly, was a little tub of yogurt, lady’s, she can’t eat them because going in for medical stuff later in the week
dv said:
ROFL
Rule 303 said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Divine Angel said:
“Hey Mini Me, what do you think daddy does for work?”
“He has meetings and prints out stuff I want.”
OK, so how does she get this insight into what goes on at the modern office at such a young age?
What do people who do meaningless gobbledegook tell their children? People who have jobs that are not real, or have zero expectation of productivity, or exist as a matter of compliance with something else that doesn’t exist – What do they tell their kids?
They tell their kids that they are a senator…
The Rev Dodgson said:
Divine Angel said:
“Hey Mini Me, what do you think daddy does for work?”
“He has meetings and prints out stuff I want.”
OK, so how does she get this insight into what goes on at the modern office at such a young age?
Mr Mutant has been working from home for as long as she can remember.
Rule 303 said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Divine Angel said:
“Hey Mini Me, what do you think daddy does for work?”
“He has meetings and prints out stuff I want.”
OK, so how does she get this insight into what goes on at the modern office at such a young age?
What do people who do meaningless gobbledegook tell their children? People who have jobs that are not real, or have zero expectation of productivity, or exist as a matter of compliance with something else that doesn’t exist – What do they tell their kids?
I drive a Hilux.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Rule 303 said:
The Rev Dodgson said:OK, so how does she get this insight into what goes on at the modern office at such a young age?
What do people who do meaningless gobbledegook tell their children? People who have jobs that are not real, or have zero expectation of productivity, or exist as a matter of compliance with something else that doesn’t exist – What do they tell their kids?
I drive a Hilux.
Ha!
furious said:
Rule 303 said:
The Rev Dodgson said:OK, so how does she get this insight into what goes on at the modern office at such a young age?
What do people who do meaningless gobbledegook tell their children? People who have jobs that are not real, or have zero expectation of productivity, or exist as a matter of compliance with something else that doesn’t exist – What do they tell their kids?
They tell their kids that they are a senator…
Yeah, I guess I should have anticipated that.
I was thinking more “I receive and process complaints under section 354 of the Corporations Act, which ceased being in effect three years ago, but under Section 181 (b) we are still required to have a complaints process.” That kind of crap. What do they tell their kids?
Rule 303 said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Divine Angel said:
“Hey Mini Me, what do you think daddy does for work?”
“He has meetings and prints out stuff I want.”
OK, so how does she get this insight into what goes on at the modern office at such a young age?
What do people who do meaningless gobbledegook tell their children? People who have jobs that are not real, or have zero expectation of productivity, or exist as a matter of compliance with something else that doesn’t exist – What do they tell their kids?
what do you consider meaningless gobbledegook?
Hello
Arts said:
Rule 303 said:
The Rev Dodgson said:OK, so how does she get this insight into what goes on at the modern office at such a young age?
What do people who do meaningless gobbledegook tell their children? People who have jobs that are not real, or have zero expectation of productivity, or exist as a matter of compliance with something else that doesn’t exist – What do they tell their kids?
what do you consider meaningless gobbledegook?
hang on, i’ll find a post by our favourite butt of jokes.
Arts said:
Rule 303 said:
The Rev Dodgson said:OK, so how does she get this insight into what goes on at the modern office at such a young age?
What do people who do meaningless gobbledegook tell their children? People who have jobs that are not real, or have zero expectation of productivity, or exist as a matter of compliance with something else that doesn’t exist – What do they tell their kids?
what do you consider meaningless gobbledegook?
Arts said:
Rule 303 said:
The Rev Dodgson said:OK, so how does she get this insight into what goes on at the modern office at such a young age?
What do people who do meaningless gobbledegook tell their children? People who have jobs that are not real, or have zero expectation of productivity, or exist as a matter of compliance with something else that doesn’t exist – What do they tell their kids?
what do you consider meaningless gobbledegook?
I personally wonder about the honesty of jobs (not saying people aren’t skilled or work hard) that are a result of the complicatedness of society and help to maintain that, but don’t actually matter a damn outside of that small area. I think of my job like that, paper and information shuffling
Cymek said:
Arts said:
Rule 303 said:What do people who do meaningless gobbledegook tell their children? People who have jobs that are not real, or have zero expectation of productivity, or exist as a matter of compliance with something else that doesn’t exist – What do they tell their kids?
what do you consider meaningless gobbledegook?
I personally wonder about the honesty of jobs (not saying people aren’t skilled or work hard) that are a result of the complicatedness of society and help to maintain that, but don’t actually matter a damn outside of that small area. I think of my job like that, paper and information shuffling
Cymek said:
Arts said:
Rule 303 said:What do people who do meaningless gobbledegook tell their children? People who have jobs that are not real, or have zero expectation of productivity, or exist as a matter of compliance with something else that doesn’t exist – What do they tell their kids?
what do you consider meaningless gobbledegook?
I personally wonder about the honesty of jobs (not saying people aren’t skilled or work hard) that are a result of the complicatedness of society and help to maintain that, but don’t actually matter a damn outside of that small area. I think of my job like that, paper and information shuffling
The legal system is one of the pivotal functions of any government.
Tamb said:
Cymek said:
Arts said:what do you consider meaningless gobbledegook?
I personally wonder about the honesty of jobs (not saying people aren’t skilled or work hard) that are a result of the complicatedness of society and help to maintain that, but don’t actually matter a damn outside of that small area. I think of my job like that, paper and information shuffling
Most of my jobs have been of value.
and this is my point, most jobs are of some value.. so I’m interested to hear which ones people think are of little value.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Cymek said:
Arts said:what do you consider meaningless gobbledegook?
I personally wonder about the honesty of jobs (not saying people aren’t skilled or work hard) that are a result of the complicatedness of society and help to maintain that, but don’t actually matter a damn outside of that small area. I think of my job like that, paper and information shuffling
The legal system is one of the pivotal functions of any government.
Perhaps but outside of that area the jobs have little value, if society fell many of the valued jobs would be useless
Tamb said:
Cymek said:
Arts said:what do you consider meaningless gobbledegook?
I personally wonder about the honesty of jobs (not saying people aren’t skilled or work hard) that are a result of the complicatedness of society and help to maintain that, but don’t actually matter a damn outside of that small area. I think of my job like that, paper and information shuffling
Most of my jobs have been of value.
For example making cables for microwave transmission.
Problem is, these days, even jobs with value are encumbered by a lot of this “gobbledegook”…
Arts said:
Tamb said:
Cymek said:I personally wonder about the honesty of jobs (not saying people aren’t skilled or work hard) that are a result of the complicatedness of society and help to maintain that, but don’t actually matter a damn outside of that small area. I think of my job like that, paper and information shuffling
Most of my jobs have been of value.and this is my point, most jobs are of some value.. so I’m interested to hear which ones people think are of little value.
That is true but society devalues some quite essential jobs, for example if all the rubbish collectors, cleaners, etc went on strike for months it would be unpleasant for all but if say lawyers did they same who would notice beside those appearing in court.
furious said:
Tamb said:
Cymek said:I personally wonder about the honesty of jobs (not saying people aren’t skilled or work hard) that are a result of the complicatedness of society and help to maintain that, but don’t actually matter a damn outside of that small area. I think of my job like that, paper and information shuffling
Most of my jobs have been of value.
For example making cables for microwave transmission.Problem is, these days, even jobs with value are encumbered by a lot of this “gobbledegook”…
Yes JDF’s use this over complicated self important description of skills and tasks required when the reality is much less so.
Cymek said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
Cymek said:I personally wonder about the honesty of jobs (not saying people aren’t skilled or work hard) that are a result of the complicatedness of society and help to maintain that, but don’t actually matter a damn outside of that small area. I think of my job like that, paper and information shuffling
The legal system is one of the pivotal functions of any government.
Perhaps but outside of that area the jobs have little value, if society fell many of the valued jobs would be useless
well sure, then other jobs will become valuable. I mean a farrier used to be a highly valued job, but it isn’t so much anymore apart from a small subset of people who have horses… just because historically a job has some value doesn’t mean that it does now and so on…
Cymek said:
Arts said:
Tamb said:Most of my jobs have been of value.
and this is my point, most jobs are of some value.. so I’m interested to hear which ones people think are of little value.
That is true but society devalues some quite essential jobs, for example if all the rubbish collectors, cleaners, etc went on strike for months it would be unpleasant for all but if say lawyers did they same who would notice beside those appearing in court.
ok, so do we need to establish value on a scale of one group to the whole of society?
Arts said:
Cymek said:
Arts said:and this is my point, most jobs are of some value.. so I’m interested to hear which ones people think are of little value.
That is true but society devalues some quite essential jobs, for example if all the rubbish collectors, cleaners, etc went on strike for months it would be unpleasant for all but if say lawyers did they same who would notice beside those appearing in court.
ok, so do we need to establish value on a scale of one group to the whole of society?
I think it is some of the tasks that have little value, not the person performing the tasks…
Arts said:
Cymek said:
Arts said:and this is my point, most jobs are of some value.. so I’m interested to hear which ones people think are of little value.
That is true but society devalues some quite essential jobs, for example if all the rubbish collectors, cleaners, etc went on strike for months it would be unpleasant for all but if say lawyers did they same who would notice beside those appearing in court.
ok, so do we need to establish value on a scale of one group to the whole of society?
and who are we trying to be valuable to? I would argue that even if someone hates their job and thinks that it shouldn’t be a job then the value is reduced to an income, which in itself is valuable.
as a printer my job used to be important. today, with the internet, not so much.
Arts said:
Cymek said:
Arts said:and this is my point, most jobs are of some value.. so I’m interested to hear which ones people think are of little value.
That is true but society devalues some quite essential jobs, for example if all the rubbish collectors, cleaners, etc went on strike for months it would be unpleasant for all but if say lawyers did they same who would notice beside those appearing in court.
ok, so do we need to establish value on a scale of one group to the whole of society?
As long as engineers are at the top I have no issue with this.
furious said:
Arts said:
Cymek said:That is true but society devalues some quite essential jobs, for example if all the rubbish collectors, cleaners, etc went on strike for months it would be unpleasant for all but if say lawyers did they same who would notice beside those appearing in court.
ok, so do we need to establish value on a scale of one group to the whole of society?
I think it is some of the tasks that have little value, not the person performing the tasks…
can you give me an example?
sibeen said:
Arts said:
Cymek said:That is true but society devalues some quite essential jobs, for example if all the rubbish collectors, cleaners, etc went on strike for months it would be unpleasant for all but if say lawyers did they same who would notice beside those appearing in court.
ok, so do we need to establish value on a scale of one group to the whole of society?
As long as engineers are at the top I have no issue with this.
pfft… those old things? are they still around?
sibeen said:
Arts said:
Cymek said:That is true but society devalues some quite essential jobs, for example if all the rubbish collectors, cleaners, etc went on strike for months it would be unpleasant for all but if say lawyers did they same who would notice beside those appearing in court.
ok, so do we need to establish value on a scale of one group to the whole of society?
As long as engineers are at the top I have no issue with this.
That’s quite reasonable though, that skill would be useful now and even if our entire civilisation collapsed you’d have the skill and knowledge to help rebuild it.
Enough of this negativity!
How do you describe jobs that people take for granted. Here’s what I do:
The art of modelling materials we do not wholly understand, into shapes we cannot precisely analyse, so as to withstand forces we cannot properly assess, in such a way that the public has no reason to suspect the extent of our ignorance.
If a device used a 9v battery the power adapter would also need this output wouldn’t it.
I can’t find the original power adapter for something and found another that fits but only has a lower output I tried it and it keeps turning off.
Cymek said:
If a device used a 9v battery the power adapter would also need this output wouldn’t it.
I can’t find the original power adapter for something and found another that fits but only has a lower output I tried it and it keeps turning off.
the output amps of the power adaptor have to be capable of powering the device. eg that have to be equal to or greater.
Arts said:
furious said:
Arts said:ok, so do we need to establish value on a scale of one group to the whole of society?
I think it is some of the tasks that have little value, not the person performing the tasks…
can you give me an example?
I was just reading this morning of a guy who sued his employer for excessive boredom due to not being given any meaningful work to do.
He won the case and was awarded 50,000 Euros.
Cymek said:
If a device used a 9v battery the power adapter would also need this output wouldn’t it.
I can’t find the original power adapter for something and found another that fits but only has a lower output I tried it and it keeps turning off.
Just because the battery is 9V does not mean that the original power supply was 9V. It should be written at the plug entry point what the voltage required is, or look up the item on the internet – if you have that resource available.
From the post that prompted the discussion:
“I receive and process complaints under section 354 of the Corporations Act, which ceased being in effect three years ago, but under Section 181 (b) we are still required to have a complaints process.”
Not quite the same but where I work there a lot of tasks done that are company mandated that make no difference to everyday work, in fact they can hinder it, that only exist to tick a box on the KPIs for someone, somewhere…
dv said:
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Arts said:
Cymek said:
Arts said:and this is my point, most jobs are of some value.. so I’m interested to hear which ones people think are of little value.
That is true but society devalues some quite essential jobs, for example if all the rubbish collectors, cleaners, etc went on strike for months it would be unpleasant for all but if say lawyers did they same who would notice beside those appearing in court.
ok, so do we need to establish value on a scale of one group to the whole of society?
Nah, I’m not talking about silly buggers who do useless stuff, like a process worker who makes toys that invariably break on first use – I mean people who have jobs to which there is no purpose and no expectation of outcome. A Dairy farmer with no farm and no cows, a teacher with no school and no students, an administrator working a system that doesn’t achieve anything at all, a pilot with no plane, no airport, and no passengers.
Arts said:
furious said:
Arts said:ok, so do we need to establish value on a scale of one group to the whole of society?
I think it is some of the tasks that have little value, not the person performing the tasks…
can you give me an example?
I gave this example a little while ago: I was thinking more “I receive and process complaints under section 354 of the Corporations Act, which ceased being in effect three years ago, but under Section 181 (b) we are still required to have a complaints process.” That kind of crap. What do they tell their kids?
The Rev Dodgson said:
Enough of this negativity!How do you describe jobs that people take for granted. Here’s what I do:
The art of modelling materials we do not wholly understand, into shapes we cannot precisely analyse, so as to withstand forces we cannot properly assess, in such a way that the public has no reason to suspect the extent of our ignorance.
Nice.
sibeen said:
Cymek said:
If a device used a 9v battery the power adapter would also need this output wouldn’t it.
I can’t find the original power adapter for something and found another that fits but only has a lower output I tried it and it keeps turning off.
Just because the battery is 9V does not mean that the original power supply was 9V. It should be written at the plug entry point what the voltage required is, or look up the item on the internet – if you have that resource available.
Yes I did that just then they sell replacement power adapters, I was just looking for something spare I had around the house
Witty Rejoinder said:
Rule 303 said:
The Rev Dodgson said:OK, so how does she get this insight into what goes on at the modern office at such a young age?
What do people who do meaningless gobbledegook tell their children? People who have jobs that are not real, or have zero expectation of productivity, or exist as a matter of compliance with something else that doesn’t exist – What do they tell their kids?
I drive a Hilux.
:)
>5000 members on the SSSF FB page now.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Arts said:
furious said:I think it is some of the tasks that have little value, not the person performing the tasks…
can you give me an example?
I was just reading this morning of a guy who sued his employer for excessive boredom due to not being given any meaningful work to do.
He won the case and was awarded 50,000 Euros.
lol.
Witty Rejoinder said:
Rule 303 said:
The Rev Dodgson said:OK, so how does she get this insight into what goes on at the modern office at such a young age?
What do people who do meaningless gobbledegook tell their children? People who have jobs that are not real, or have zero expectation of productivity, or exist as a matter of compliance with something else that doesn’t exist – What do they tell their kids?
I drive a Hilux.
I want one.
furious said:
- can you give me an example?
From the post that prompted the discussion:
“I receive and process complaints under section 354 of the Corporations Act, which ceased being in effect three years ago, but under Section 181 (b) we are still required to have a complaints process.”
Not quite the same but where I work there a lot of tasks done that are company mandated that make no difference to everyday work, in fact they can hinder it, that only exist to tick a box on the KPIs for someone, somewhere…
so industry’s need reform on a regular basis.. I suppose that could be someone’s job.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Arts said:
furious said:I think it is some of the tasks that have little value, not the person performing the tasks…
can you give me an example?
I was just reading this morning of a guy who sued his employer for excessive boredom due to not being given any meaningful work to do.
He won the case and was awarded 50,000 Euros.
One of my mates from school is working for an agency that was combined with two others such that he is no longer able to do his job, but it still exists. There is no current plan to address the situation. It’s been 18 months.
He doesn’t have kids, so no need to explain, but…
Cymek said:
sibeen said:
Cymek said:
If a device used a 9v battery the power adapter would also need this output wouldn’t it.
I can’t find the original power adapter for something and found another that fits but only has a lower output I tried it and it keeps turning off.
Just because the battery is 9V does not mean that the original power supply was 9V. It should be written at the plug entry point what the voltage required is, or look up the item on the internet – if you have that resource available.
Yes I did that just then they sell replacement power adapters, I was just looking for something spare I had around the house
The replacement should tell you what voltage it is.
for MV
well, the laksa turned out ok. going for a second bowl.
some brocolli
some chillies
some leek
some bok choy
1 clove garlic
ginger
2 pork medallions finely sliced
coat pork in cornflour. wok pork in peanut oil. when brownish add chillies. add broc and leek and bok choy. add garlic. add some of the laksa stock to deglaze wok.
heat laksa stock and add a laksa paste. when hot add egg noodles and some sesame oil.
when everything is cooked proper, combine.
sibeen said:
Cymek said:
sibeen said:Just because the battery is 9V does not mean that the original power supply was 9V. It should be written at the plug entry point what the voltage required is, or look up the item on the internet – if you have that resource available.
Yes I did that just then they sell replacement power adapters, I was just looking for something spare I had around the house
The replacement should tell you what voltage it is.
Yes it says 9V, I was trying something on hand but it didn’t work
Bogsnorkler said:
>5000 members on the SSSF FB page now.
>Looks impressed<
I don’t understand the obsession with explaining things to the kids though…
Arts said:
I don’t understand the obsession with explaining things to the kids though…
It is just a plot device…
Rule 303 said:
Bogsnorkler said:
>5000 members on the SSSF FB page now.
>Looks impressed<
i know, a milestone. some good discussions now. must be a critical mass of some sort.
Cymek said:
sibeen said:
Cymek said:Yes I did that just then they sell replacement power adapters, I was just looking for something spare I had around the house
The replacement should tell you what voltage it is.
Yes it says 9V, I was trying something on hand but it didn’t work
Ahh, then Boris was probably correct, an outlandish thought, and the power supply your using doesn’t have enough grunt to do the job.
Arts said:
furious said:
- can you give me an example?
From the post that prompted the discussion:
“I receive and process complaints under section 354 of the Corporations Act, which ceased being in effect three years ago, but under Section 181 (b) we are still required to have a complaints process.”
Not quite the same but where I work there a lot of tasks done that are company mandated that make no difference to everyday work, in fact they can hinder it, that only exist to tick a box on the KPIs for someone, somewhere…
so industry’s need reform on a regular basis.. I suppose that could be someone’s job.
Aaaannnnddd bam! You just got yourself black-balled from every office of the agency in the state.
SRSLY, you might as well go home.
(there’s some pretty sick work cultures out there)
Rule 303 said:
Bogsnorkler said:
>5000 members on the SSSF FB page now.
>Looks impressed<
meh
The Rev Dodgson said:
Enough of this negativity!How do you describe jobs that people take for granted. Here’s what I do:
The art of modelling materials we do not wholly understand, into shapes we cannot precisely analyse, so as to withstand forces we cannot properly assess, in such a way that the public has no reason to suspect the extent of our ignorance.
“Fake it until you make it.”
Bogsnorkler said:
Rule 303 said:
Bogsnorkler said:
>5000 members on the SSSF FB page now.
>Looks impressed<
i know, a milestone. some good discussions now. must be a critical mass of some sort.
And as a moderator, how would you describe your job to your children? If you had any…
sibeen said:
Cymek said:
sibeen said:The replacement should tell you what voltage it is.
Yes it says 9V, I was trying something on hand but it didn’t work
Ahh, then Boris was probably correct, an outlandish thought, and the power supply
yourusing doesn’t have enough grunt to do the job.
you’re
furious said:
Tamb said:
Cymek said:I personally wonder about the honesty of jobs (not saying people aren’t skilled or work hard) that are a result of the complicatedness of society and help to maintain that, but don’t actually matter a damn outside of that small area. I think of my job like that, paper and information shuffling
Most of my jobs have been of value.
For example making cables for microwave transmission.Problem is, these days, even jobs with value are encumbered by a lot of this “gobbledegook”…
When I was a manufacturing chemist we were plagued by the ethics people whom we regarded as surplus to requirements & thus useless. On reflection, maybe they were necessary.
sibeen said:
Cymek said:
sibeen said:The replacement should tell you what voltage it is.
Yes it says 9V, I was trying something on hand but it didn’t work
Ahh, then Boris was probably correct, an outlandish thought, and the power supply your using doesn’t have enough grunt to do the job.
does happy dance.
Arts said:
I don’t understand the obsession with explaining things to the kids though…
It’s more a question than an obsession, but it serves to prompt the reader to explain a thing in simple terms.
furious said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Rule 303 said:>Looks impressed<
i know, a milestone. some good discussions now. must be a critical mass of some sort.
And as a moderator, how would you describe your job to your children? If you had any…
I’m like a god. I have total power over lesser mortals. I can smite with impunity. I am also fair.
Rule 303 said:
Arts said:
Cymek said:That is true but society devalues some quite essential jobs, for example if all the rubbish collectors, cleaners, etc went on strike for months it would be unpleasant for all but if say lawyers did they same who would notice beside those appearing in court.
ok, so do we need to establish value on a scale of one group to the whole of society?
Nah, I’m not talking about silly buggers who do useless stuff, like a process worker who makes toys that invariably break on first use – I mean people who have jobs to which there is no purpose and no expectation of outcome. A Dairy farmer with no farm and no cows, a teacher with no school and no students, an administrator working a system that doesn’t achieve anything at all, a pilot with no plane, no airport, and no passengers.
Seems like unemployment to me. Send-em to the dole queue!
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
Bogsnorkler said:
>5000 members on the SSSF FB page now.
>Looks impressed<
meh
Shh.
Rule 303 said:
Arts said:
furious said:
- can you give me an example?
From the post that prompted the discussion:
“I receive and process complaints under section 354 of the Corporations Act, which ceased being in effect three years ago, but under Section 181 (b) we are still required to have a complaints process.”
Not quite the same but where I work there a lot of tasks done that are company mandated that make no difference to everyday work, in fact they can hinder it, that only exist to tick a box on the KPIs for someone, somewhere…
so industry’s need reform on a regular basis.. I suppose that could be someone’s job.
Aaaannnnddd bam! You just got yourself black-balled from every office of the agency in the state.
SRSLY, you might as well go home.
(there’s some pretty sick work cultures out there)
I reckon your view is pretty glass half empty. My job is literally to create reform through research.
Arts said:
sibeen said:
Arts said:ok, so do we need to establish value on a scale of one group to the whole of society?
As long as engineers are at the top I have no issue with this.
pfft… those old things? are they still around?
Bogsnorkler said:
>5000 members on the SSSF FB page now.
It’s a worry
Tamb said:
Arts said:
sibeen said:As long as engineers are at the top I have no issue with this.
pfft… those old things? are they still around?
Aircraft engineers maybe.
Brother in law was an aircraft engineer with Virgin up until 3 months ago. He turns 50 next year. Chance of ever working in the industry again ≅ 0.
Tamb said:
furious said:
Tamb said:Most of my jobs have been of value.
For example making cables for microwave transmission.Problem is, these days, even jobs with value are encumbered by a lot of this “gobbledegook”…
When I was a manufacturing chemist we were plagued by the ethics people whom we regarded as surplus to requirements & thus useless. On reflection, maybe they were necessary.
ok. ethics committees may be actually the closest we have come. Though they serve a purpose, they themselves think that the purpose is to make sure no one can come back to them and say “why did you allow this to happen?”
Bogsnorkler said:
for MVwell, the laksa turned out ok. going for a second bowl.
some brocolli
some chillies
some leek
some bok choy
1 clove garlic
ginger2 pork medallions finely sliced
coat pork in cornflour. wok pork in peanut oil. when brownish add chillies. add broc and leek and bok choy. add garlic. add some of the laksa stock to deglaze wok.
heat laksa stock and add a laksa paste. when hot add egg noodles and some sesame oil.
when everything is cooked proper, combine.
What brand stock and paste?
Arts said:
Tamb said:
furious said:Problem is, these days, even jobs with value are encumbered by a lot of this “gobbledegook”…
When I was a manufacturing chemist we were plagued by the ethics people whom we regarded as surplus to requirements & thus useless. On reflection, maybe they were necessary.
ok. ethics committees may be actually the closest we have come. Though they serve a purpose, they themselves think that the purpose is to make sure no one can come back to them and say “why did you allow this to happen?”
I’ve had tasks where someone decided they wanted to change the format of documents so all documents needed to be updated to reflect the new format. The contents of the documents did not change…
sibeen said:
Tamb said:
Arts said:pfft… those old things? are they still around?
Aircraft engineers maybe.Brother in law was an aircraft engineer with Virgin up until 3 months ago. He turns 50 next year. Chance of ever working in the industry again ≅ 0.
years ago my son was talking about being a pilot.. we have a fairly local high school that does an aviation program, so we started looking into entry etc.. a couple of months ago (on the last school holidays) Virgin died and we happened to be passing the school whose electronic sign was telling us all that Virgin Australia was a proud sponsor of their aviation program… ouch.
Arts said:
Rule 303 said:
Arts said:so industry’s need reform on a regular basis.. I suppose that could be someone’s job.
Aaaannnnddd bam! You just got yourself black-balled from every office of the agency in the state.
SRSLY, you might as well go home.
(there’s some pretty sick work cultures out there)
I reckon your view is pretty glass half empty. My job is literally to create reform through research.
Your type of job is not what I’m talking about.
If I can give you another example, one of the trade training organisations I work for has seven full time trainers for subjects they have no students of, but the government says they offer the course, so they have trainers and rooms and resources and equipment and administrative support. This might be a temporary state (just this year) or it might be permanent.
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
for MVwell, the laksa turned out ok. going for a second bowl.
some brocolli
some chillies
some leek
some bok choy
1 clove garlic
ginger2 pork medallions finely sliced
coat pork in cornflour. wok pork in peanut oil. when brownish add chillies. add broc and leek and bok choy. add garlic. add some of the laksa stock to deglaze wok.
heat laksa stock and add a laksa paste. when hot add egg noodles and some sesame oil.
when everything is cooked proper, combine.
What brand stock and paste?
Campbell’s stock, IGA
Five Tastes Laksa paste, IGA, made in Thailand.
Arts said:
sibeen said:
Tamb said:Aircraft engineers maybe.
Brother in law was an aircraft engineer with Virgin up until 3 months ago. He turns 50 next year. Chance of ever working in the industry again ≅ 0.
years ago my son was talking about being a pilot.. we have a fairly local high school that does an aviation program, so we started looking into entry etc.. a couple of months ago (on the last school holidays) Virgin died and we happened to be passing the school whose electronic sign was telling us all that Virgin Australia was a proud sponsor of their aviation program… ouch.
I worked with someone who’s son wanted to be a pilot and was looking to get into, possibly, that school. I suggested he should go to ADFA. Don’t know what happened in the end…
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
for MVwell, the laksa turned out ok. going for a second bowl.
some brocolli
some chillies
some leek
some bok choy
1 clove garlic
ginger2 pork medallions finely sliced
coat pork in cornflour. wok pork in peanut oil. when brownish add chillies. add broc and leek and bok choy. add garlic. add some of the laksa stock to deglaze wok.
heat laksa stock and add a laksa paste. when hot add egg noodles and some sesame oil.
when everything is cooked proper, combine.
What brand stock and paste?
Campbell’s stock, IGA
Five Tastes Laksa paste, IGA, made in Thailand.
Where was the noodles?
Feels like coffee time.
sibeen said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:What brand stock and paste?
Campbell’s stock, IGA
Five Tastes Laksa paste, IGA, made in Thailand.
Where was the noodles?
Not in the pasta shelf but down on the bottom shelf of the asian section of IGA.
furious said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Rule 303 said:>Looks impressed<
i know, a milestone. some good discussions now. must be a critical mass of some sort.
And as a moderator, how would you describe your job to your children? If you had any…
I tell mine it’s a boring dead end job and a decent tertiary education hopefully gives you more options
The Rev Dodgson said:
The art of modelling materials we do not wholly understand, into shapes we cannot precisely analyse, so as to withstand forces we cannot properly assess, in such a way that the public has no reason to suspect the extent of our ignorance.
I bet you don’t start your engineering lectures like that.
Rule 303 said:
Arts said:
Rule 303 said:Aaaannnnddd bam! You just got yourself black-balled from every office of the agency in the state.
SRSLY, you might as well go home.
(there’s some pretty sick work cultures out there)
I reckon your view is pretty glass half empty. My job is literally to create reform through research.
Your type of job is not what I’m talking about.
If I can give you another example, one of the trade training organisations I work for has seven full time trainers for subjects they have no students of, but the government says they offer the course, so they have trainers and rooms and resources and equipment and administrative support. This might be a temporary state (just this year) or it might be permanent.
but the infrastructure and training was already there it wasn’t build for the maybe they will come.. but the maybe they will come back (surely?) … and it would be a sensible thing to start to filter off the availability if people don’t use the resources… so while their ‘redundancy’ might be temporary, if it isn’t then repurpose will occur eventually.
I have been keeping an eye on office space use in the city over this time period and will be interested to see how it changes.. given that I think there will be companies who will be happy to have their people work remotely and not retake up leases etc.. or at least reduce their floor space in light of five day fortnights on the floor. Then what happens to the rest of the office space? it will be repurposed for something not considered in the future…
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
for MVwell, the laksa turned out ok. going for a second bowl.
some brocolli
some chillies
some leek
some bok choy
1 clove garlic
ginger2 pork medallions finely sliced
coat pork in cornflour. wok pork in peanut oil. when brownish add chillies. add broc and leek and bok choy. add garlic. add some of the laksa stock to deglaze wok.
heat laksa stock and add a laksa paste. when hot add egg noodles and some sesame oil.
when everything is cooked proper, combine.
What brand stock and paste?
Campbell’s stock, IGA
Five Tastes Laksa paste, IGA, made in Thailand.
Thank you.
:)
furious said:
Arts said:
sibeen said:Brother in law was an aircraft engineer with Virgin up until 3 months ago. He turns 50 next year. Chance of ever working in the industry again ≅ 0.
years ago my son was talking about being a pilot.. we have a fairly local high school that does an aviation program, so we started looking into entry etc.. a couple of months ago (on the last school holidays) Virgin died and we happened to be passing the school whose electronic sign was telling us all that Virgin Australia was a proud sponsor of their aviation program… ouch.
I worked with someone who’s son wanted to be a pilot and was looking to get into, possibly, that school. I suggested he should go to ADFA. Don’t know what happened in the end…
it will be interesting to see what happens with their program now… I don’t know how much they rely on the sponsorship but I suspect it’s a big thing…
Michael V said:
Bogsnorkler said:
Michael V said:What brand stock and paste?
Campbell’s stock, IGA
Five Tastes Laksa paste, IGA, made in Thailand.
Thank you.
:)
I’m sure you will improve upon it.
(there’s some pretty sick work cultures out there)
—
Yes. I just had to them away after about 12 months.
Arts said:
Rule 303 said:
Arts said:I reckon your view is pretty glass half empty. My job is literally to create reform through research.
Your type of job is not what I’m talking about.
If I can give you another example, one of the trade training organisations I work for has seven full time trainers for subjects they have no students of, but the government says they offer the course, so they have trainers and rooms and resources and equipment and administrative support. This might be a temporary state (just this year) or it might be permanent.
but the infrastructure and training was already there it wasn’t build for the maybe they will come.. but the maybe they will come back (surely?) … and it would be a sensible thing to start to filter off the availability if people don’t use the resources… so while their ‘redundancy’ might be temporary, if it isn’t then repurpose will occur eventually.
I have been keeping an eye on office space use in the city over this time period and will be interested to see how it changes.. given that I think there will be companies who will be happy to have their people work remotely and not retake up leases etc.. or at least reduce their floor space in light of five day fortnights on the floor. Then what happens to the rest of the office space? it will be repurposed for something not considered in the future…
In some ways the military is a useless job. It exists to protect one military from another military.
Arts said:
furious said:
Arts said:years ago my son was talking about being a pilot.. we have a fairly local high school that does an aviation program, so we started looking into entry etc.. a couple of months ago (on the last school holidays) Virgin died and we happened to be passing the school whose electronic sign was telling us all that Virgin Australia was a proud sponsor of their aviation program… ouch.
I worked with someone who’s son wanted to be a pilot and was looking to get into, possibly, that school. I suggested he should go to ADFA. Don’t know what happened in the end…
it will be interesting to see what happens with their program now… I don’t know how much they rely on the sponsorship but I suspect it’s a big thing…
Looks like it was more than money too, with work experience opportunities and things like that…
Cymek said:
furious said:
Bogsnorkler said:i know, a milestone. some good discussions now. must be a critical mass of some sort.
And as a moderator, how would you describe your job to your children? If you had any…
I tell mine it’s a boring dead end job and a decent tertiary education hopefully gives you more options
we have a unique situation in this house.. I have a couple of degrees and have the luxury of picking my roles.. Mr Arts did not go to uni and just worked his way up to the role he is in now… both decent pathways using individual strengths.
Arts said:
Rule 303 said:
Arts said:I reckon your view is pretty glass half empty. My job is literally to create reform through research.
Your type of job is not what I’m talking about.
If I can give you another example, one of the trade training organisations I work for has seven full time trainers for subjects they have no students of, but the government says they offer the course, so they have trainers and rooms and resources and equipment and administrative support. This might be a temporary state (just this year) or it might be permanent.
but the infrastructure and training was already there it wasn’t build for the maybe they will come.. but the maybe they will come back (surely?) … and it would be a sensible thing to start to filter off the availability if people don’t use the resources… so while their ‘redundancy’ might be temporary, if it isn’t then repurpose will occur eventually.
I have been keeping an eye on office space use in the city over this time period and will be interested to see how it changes.. given that I think there will be companies who will be happy to have their people work remotely and not retake up leases etc.. or at least reduce their floor space in light of five day fortnights on the floor. Then what happens to the rest of the office space? it will be repurposed for something not considered in the future…
I suspect, at least in a city like Melbourne, that quite a bit of the existing office space will get repurposed as residential.
Arts said:
Cymek said:
furious said:And as a moderator, how would you describe your job to your children? If you had any…
I tell mine it’s a boring dead end job and a decent tertiary education hopefully gives you more options
we have a unique situation in this house.. I have a couple of degrees and have the luxury of picking my roles.. Mr Arts did not go to uni and just worked his way up to the role he is in now… both decent pathways using individual strengths.
Yeah, you don’t need qualifications to work your way into a job you are good at and enjoy…
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-supreme-court-struck-down-a-louisiana-abortion-law-heres-where-the-fight-could-head-next/
On Monday morning, Chief Justice John Roberts joined the court’s liberals yet again to strike down a restrictive Louisiana abortion law that could have left the state with a single clinic.
This case was one of the most-watched items on the docket this term for a reason. It was the first ruling on abortion since President Trump appointed two new justices to the court, which meant abortion-rights opponents were optimistic that a new conservative majority might be willing to undo past decisions on abortion rights — even though the Louisiana law was basically identical to a Texas restriction that was struck down by the court in 2016. The laws banned doctors from providing abortions unless they had admitting privileges at a local hospital.
It turned out this was a bad bet. Roberts ultimately wasn’t willing to backtrack on what the court had so recently decided. “The Louisiana law imposes a burden on access to abortion just as severe as that imposed by the Texas law, for the same reasons,” he wrote in a separate opinion from the majority. “Therefore Louisiana’s law cannot stand under our precedents.”
But this could turn out to be only a temporary setback for anti-abortion activists. Roberts made it clear that he still thinks the 2016 ruling was incorrect. This means abortion rights will likely be back on the Supreme Court’s docket soon, and it’s very possible that in a future case, Roberts will be willing to uphold other restrictions that could severely limit access to the procedure.
furious said:
Arts said:
furious said:I worked with someone who’s son wanted to be a pilot and was looking to get into, possibly, that school. I suggested he should go to ADFA. Don’t know what happened in the end…
it will be interesting to see what happens with their program now… I don’t know how much they rely on the sponsorship but I suspect it’s a big thing…
Looks like it was more than money too, with work experience opportunities and things like that…
ah yes. Damn, luckily my son became obsessed with Minecraft and is now programming shit. IT is probably a decent industry to go to
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:Nah, I’m not talking about silly buggers who do useless stuff, like a process worker who makes toys that invariably break on first use – I mean people who have jobs to which there is no purpose and no expectation of outcome. A Dairy farmer with no farm and no cows, a teacher with no school and no students, an administrator working a system that doesn’t achieve anything at all, a pilot with no plane, no airport, and no passengers.
Seems like unemployment to me. Send-em to the dole queue!
We have a railway line through Toowoomba.
We have a magnificent railway station.
We have railway staff at the station.
We have no passenger trains. None at all. No rail delivery of goods. None.
I understand that the railway staff take bookings for rail travel elsewhere in the State.
That must keep them busy for 15 or 20 mins per month.

Arts said:
sibeen said:
Tamb said:Aircraft engineers maybe.
Brother in law was an aircraft engineer with Virgin up until 3 months ago. He turns 50 next year. Chance of ever working in the industry again ≅ 0.
years ago my son was talking about being a pilot.. we have a fairly local high school that does an aviation program, so we started looking into entry etc.. a couple of months ago (on the last school holidays) Virgin died and we happened to be passing the school whose electronic sign was telling us all that Virgin Australia was a proud sponsor of their aviation program… ouch.
Someone I used to work with left to become a pilot, trained in the Virgin program. She gained her wings two weeks before the company collapsed.
Divine Angel said:
Arts said:
sibeen said:Brother in law was an aircraft engineer with Virgin up until 3 months ago. He turns 50 next year. Chance of ever working in the industry again ≅ 0.
years ago my son was talking about being a pilot.. we have a fairly local high school that does an aviation program, so we started looking into entry etc.. a couple of months ago (on the last school holidays) Virgin died and we happened to be passing the school whose electronic sign was telling us all that Virgin Australia was a proud sponsor of their aviation program… ouch.
Someone I used to work with left to become a pilot, trained in the Virgin program. She gained her wings two weeks before the company collapsed.
I don’t mean “died and gained her angel wings”…
furious said:
Arts said:
Cymek said:I tell mine it’s a boring dead end job and a decent tertiary education hopefully gives you more options
we have a unique situation in this house.. I have a couple of degrees and have the luxury of picking my roles.. Mr Arts did not go to uni and just worked his way up to the role he is in now… both decent pathways using individual strengths.
Yeah, you don’t need qualifications to work your way into a job you are good at and enjoy…
Mr Mutant has two degrees, IT and physics. My sister dropped out of school in year 10 and works as a project manager, different contracts every 6 months. She has a million dollar house mortgage and room for a pony.
Oh jesus. MrsRule has started saying ‘correct’ when she means ‘yes’.
I may have to smother her in her sleep.
Ian said:
The Rev Dodgson said:The art of modelling materials we do not wholly understand, into shapes we cannot precisely analyse, so as to withstand forces we cannot properly assess, in such a way that the public has no reason to suspect the extent of our ignorance.
I bet you don’t start your engineering lectures like that.
Well I didn’t (I’ve given up lecturing), but in retrospect I think I should have.
Rule 303 said:
Oh jesus. MrsRule has started saying ‘correct’ when she means ‘yes’.I may have to smother her in her sleep.
Show her the Rake video – stat!
Rule 303 said:
Oh jesus. MrsRule has started saying ‘correct’ when she means ‘yes’.I may have to smother her in her sleep.
I need to start using ‘correct’ when Speedy Jnr is driving, as ‘right’ seems to be an issue.
sibeen said:
Rule 303 said:
Oh jesus. MrsRule has started saying ‘correct’ when she means ‘yes’.I may have to smother her in her sleep.
Show her the Rake video – stat!
It’s our only hope.
Rule 303 said:
Oh jesus. MrsRule has started saying ‘correct’ when she means ‘yes’.I may have to smother her in her sleep.
I’m sure that referring her to the appropriate Rake clip will correct I mean cure this terrible habit without such extreme measures.
Speedy said:
Rule 303 said:
Oh jesus. MrsRule has started saying ‘correct’ when she means ‘yes’.I may have to smother her in her sleep.
I need to start using ‘correct’ when Speedy Jnr is driving, as ‘right’ seems to be an issue.
Tamb said:
Speedy said:
Rule 303 said:
Oh jesus. MrsRule has started saying ‘correct’ when she means ‘yes’.I may have to smother her in her sleep.
I need to start using ‘correct’ when Speedy Jnr is driving, as ‘right’ seems to be an issue.
We learned that when rallying. Saying right at the wrong time can be messy.
Were you driver or navigator?
Speedy said:
Tamb said:
Speedy said:I need to start using ‘correct’ when Speedy Jnr is driving, as ‘right’ seems to be an issue.
We learned that when rallying. Saying right at the wrong time can be messy.Were you driver or navigator?
Originally driver but I wasn’t good enough so became a navigator.
captain_spalding said:
Michael V said:
Rule 303 said:Nah, I’m not talking about silly buggers who do useless stuff, like a process worker who makes toys that invariably break on first use – I mean people who have jobs to which there is no purpose and no expectation of outcome. A Dairy farmer with no farm and no cows, a teacher with no school and no students, an administrator working a system that doesn’t achieve anything at all, a pilot with no plane, no airport, and no passengers.
Seems like unemployment to me. Send-em to the dole queue!
We have a railway line through Toowoomba.
We have a magnificent railway station.
We have railway staff at the station.
We have no passenger trains. None at all. No rail delivery of goods. None.
I understand that the railway staff take bookings for rail travel elsewhere in the State.
That must keep them busy for 15 or 20 mins per month.
Yeah, the railways were always good at making “work” out of nothing.
Tamb said:
Speedy said:
Tamb said:We learned that when rallying. Saying right at the wrong time can be messy.
Were you driver or navigator?
Originally driver but I wasn’t good enough so became a navigator.
Did you get car sick? I don’t know how they can do it.
Speedy said:
Tamb said:
Speedy said:Were you driver or navigator?
Originally driver but I wasn’t good enough so became a navigator.
Did you get car sick? I don’t know how they can do it.
Adrenaline.
Tamb said:
Speedy said:
Tamb said:We learned that when rallying. Saying right at the wrong time can be messy.
Were you driver or navigator?
Originally driver but I wasn’t good enough so became a navigator.
Hold on! You weren’t a good driver?
What are you doing on this forum?
sibeen said:
Tamb said:
Speedy said:Were you driver or navigator?
Originally driver but I wasn’t good enough so became a navigator.
Hold on! You weren’t a good driver?
What are you doing on this forum?
Speedy said:
Tamb said:
Speedy said:Were you driver or navigator?
Originally driver but I wasn’t good enough so became a navigator.
Did you get car sick? I don’t know how they can do it.
That’s what you learn working at raly checkpoints: don’t brush up against the car, as there’s often a big streak of spew along the navigator’s door.
captain_spalding said:
Speedy said:
Tamb said:Originally driver but I wasn’t good enough so became a navigator.
Did you get car sick? I don’t know how they can do it.
That’s what you learn working at raly checkpoints: don’t brush up against the car, as there’s often a big streak of spew along the navigator’s door.
Tamb said:
captain_spalding said:
Speedy said:Did you get car sick? I don’t know how they can do it.
That’s what you learn working at raly checkpoints: don’t brush up against the car, as there’s often a big streak of spew along the navigator’s door.
What you find on the driver’s seat is even worse.
LOL
Tamb said:
Speedy said:
Rule 303 said:
Oh jesus. MrsRule has started saying ‘correct’ when she means ‘yes’.I may have to smother her in her sleep.
I need to start using ‘correct’ when Speedy Jnr is driving, as ‘right’ seems to be an issue.
We learned that when rallying. Saying right at the wrong time can be messy.
Maybe you need another word for “turn right”.
party_pants said:
Tamb said:
Speedy said:I need to start using ‘correct’ when Speedy Jnr is driving, as ‘right’ seems to be an issue.
We learned that when rallying. Saying right at the wrong time can be messy.Maybe you need another word for “turn right”.
Yeah….. “Turn left right here”
Woodie said:
party_pants said:
Tamb said:We learned that when rallying. Saying right at the wrong time can be messy.
Maybe you need another word for “turn right”.
Yeah….. “Turn left right here”
My childhood football player’s position: left right out.
Woodie said:
party_pants said:
Tamb said:We learned that when rallying. Saying right at the wrong time can be messy.
Maybe you need another word for “turn right”.
Yeah….. “Turn left right here”
Tamb said:
Woodie said:
party_pants said:Maybe you need another word for “turn right”.
Yeah….. “Turn left right here”
The word turn is generally not used.
Easy right, hard left, or some such…
furious said:
Tamb said:
Woodie said:Yeah….. “Turn left right here”
The word turn is generally not used.Easy right, hard left, or some such…
left six tightens. That’s a scary one.

party_pants said:
Tamb said:
Speedy said:I need to start using ‘correct’ when Speedy Jnr is driving, as ‘right’ seems to be an issue.
We learned that when rallying. Saying right at the wrong time can be messy.Maybe you need another word for “turn right”.
Use French: a droit!
Bogsnorkler said:
Ha!
Bogsnorkler said:
Well, that may be satire but there is probably some truth to it…
captain_spalding said:
party_pants said:
Tamb said:We learned that when rallying. Saying right at the wrong time can be messy.
Maybe you need another word for “turn right”.
Use French: a droit!
I’d never make a good rally driver or navigator because there are times when I have to pause just for a split-second to figure out if it is left or right and make sure I say the correct one. It doesn’t always come instinctively. The same with naming colours. Not enough to interrupt the flow of my speech but enough to interrupt my flow of thoughts.
drink ya coffee, you gotta get lambie out, she’d be hungry
i’d better do that
nice day out there
I had a nice healthy lunch, tuna and salad.
SWMBO just took the kids out for take-away and brought me back some hot chips.
It’s cold and looking like it might rain – don’t judge me!
sibeen said:
I had a nice healthy lunch, tuna and salad.SWMBO just took the kids out for take-away and brought me back some hot chips.
It’s cold and looking like it might rain – don’t judge me!
isn’t it always looking like rain in Melbourne tho?
sibeen said:
I had a nice healthy lunch, tuna and salad.SWMBO just took the kids out for take-away and brought me back some hot chips.
It’s cold and looking like it might rain – don’t judge me!
Does someone need a judging?
JudgeMental said:
sibeen said:
I had a nice healthy lunch, tuna and salad.SWMBO just took the kids out for take-away and brought me back some hot chips.
It’s cold and looking like it might rain – don’t judge me!
Does someone need a judging?
Do we stll have Judge Mental?
party_pants said:
I’d never make a good rally driver or navigator because there are times when I have to pause just for a split-second to figure out if it is left or right and make sure I say the correct one. It doesn’t always come instinctively. The same with naming colours. Not enough to interrupt the flow of my speech but enough to interrupt my flow of thoughts.
the correct way is to hold up both hands in front of you but separate, palms away, fingers together pointed up, and thumbs out
L for left, the other hand is right
SCIENCE said:
party_pants said:
I’d never make a good rally driver or navigator because there are times when I have to pause just for a split-second to figure out if it is left or right and make sure I say the correct one. It doesn’t always come instinctively. The same with naming colours. Not enough to interrupt the flow of my speech but enough to interrupt my flow of thoughts.
the correct way is to hold up both hands in front of you but separate, palms away, fingers together pointed up, and thumbs out
L for left, the other hand is right
You can draw it on the dash or on the pace notes.
Arts said:
sibeen said:
I had a nice healthy lunch, tuna and salad.SWMBO just took the kids out for take-away and brought me back some hot chips.
It’s cold and looking like it might rain – don’t judge me!
isn’t it always looking like rain in Melbourne tho?
May be why I’m such a fat bastard :)
Tamb said:
Woodie said:
party_pants said:Maybe you need another word for “turn right”.
Yeah….. “Turn left right here”
The word turn is generally not used.
But can you make a U turn?
No…. but I can make it’s eyes pop!
party_pants said:
I’d never make a good rally driver or navigator because there are times when I have to pause just for a split-second to figure out if it is left or right and make sure I say the correct one. It doesn’t always come instinctively. The same with naming colours. Not enough to interrupt the flow of my speech but enough to interrupt my flow of thoughts.
not my idea of fun anyway, doing 160km/h+ down dirt tracks not much wider than the vehicle
only did it once, forgot i’d organized it, had a very big late night on the turps, knock on the door early following morn, shouldn’t have gone out, worst hangover ever
half way into the experience the car launched across a dry creek and speared into the other side, I thought thank fucken God the vehicle’s broken, the front wheel’s bent right around, but no the crazy bastards fixed it, and off we all went again. Never again, they’re insane
The nationalistic paper also posted pictures of items which it said had been seized, including cash, a compass and a map of Shanghai.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-30/china-step-up-attacks-on-australia-accuses-government-of-spying/12405842
A compass and a map – ROFL. It’s like the smart phone revolution never happed.
better open email and start doing end of month business
lady’s making pasta
sibeen said:
The nationalistic paper also posted pictures of items which it said had been seized, including cash, a compass and a map of Shanghai.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-30/china-step-up-attacks-on-australia-accuses-government-of-spying/12405842
A compass and a map – ROFL. It’s like the smart phone revolution never happed.
yeah I saw that, muttered something about jesus that’s old school, no GPS
sibeen said:
The nationalistic paper also posted pictures of items which it said had been seized, including cash, a compass and a map of Shanghai.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-30/china-step-up-attacks-on-australia-accuses-government-of-spying/12405842
A compass and a map – ROFL. It’s like the smart phone revolution never happed.
What, no code-book?
transition said:
sibeen said:
The nationalistic paper also posted pictures of items which it said had been seized, including cash, a compass and a map of Shanghai.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-30/china-step-up-attacks-on-australia-accuses-government-of-spying/12405842
A compass and a map – ROFL. It’s like the smart phone revolution never happed.
yeah I saw that, muttered something about jesus that’s old school, no GPS
To use a phone map you need to have GPS on and if GPS is on, you can be tracked. The bizarre thing here is the compass because if you have a street map, you don’t need a compass…
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
The nationalistic paper also posted pictures of items which it said had been seized, including cash, a compass and a map of Shanghai.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-30/china-step-up-attacks-on-australia-accuses-government-of-spying/12405842
A compass and a map – ROFL. It’s like the smart phone revolution never happed.
What, no code-book?
That was concealed in the microdot.
furious said:
transition said:
sibeen said:
The nationalistic paper also posted pictures of items which it said had been seized, including cash, a compass and a map of Shanghai.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-30/china-step-up-attacks-on-australia-accuses-government-of-spying/12405842
A compass and a map – ROFL. It’s like the smart phone revolution never happed.
yeah I saw that, muttered something about jesus that’s old school, no GPS
To use a phone map you need to have GPS on and if GPS is on, you can be tracked. The bizarre thing here is the compass because if you have a street map, you don’t need a compass…
I sensed a very stereotypical spy, that oddly wanted to be on the international news
furious said:
transition said:
sibeen said:
The nationalistic paper also posted pictures of items which it said had been seized, including cash, a compass and a map of Shanghai.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-30/china-step-up-attacks-on-australia-accuses-government-of-spying/12405842
A compass and a map – ROFL. It’s like the smart phone revolution never happed.
yeah I saw that, muttered something about jesus that’s old school, no GPS
To use a phone map you need to have GPS on and if GPS is on, you can be tracked. The bizarre thing here is the compass because if you have a street map, you don’t need a compass…
I doubt that the powers that be who run the GPS satellites let the chinese espionage services much access.
cheese is grated, and tin of tomato soup out, ready to go in the pasta
pasta being washed
i’m yaaawwn hungry
sibeen said:
I doubt that the powers that be who run the GPS satellites let the chinese espionage services much access.
Arts said:
Rule 303 said:
Arts said:I reckon your view is pretty glass half empty. My job is literally to create reform through research.
Your type of job is not what I’m talking about.
If I can give you another example, one of the trade training organisations I work for has seven full time trainers for subjects they have no students of, but the government says they offer the course, so they have trainers and rooms and resources and equipment and administrative support. This might be a temporary state (just this year) or it might be permanent.
but the infrastructure and training was already there it wasn’t build for the maybe they will come.. but the maybe they will come back (surely?) … and it would be a sensible thing to start to filter off the availability if people don’t use the resources… so while their ‘redundancy’ might be temporary, if it isn’t then repurpose will occur eventually.
I have been keeping an eye on office space use in the city over this time period and will be interested to see how it changes.. given that I think there will be companies who will be happy to have their people work remotely and not retake up leases etc.. or at least reduce their floor space in light of five day fortnights on the floor. Then what happens to the rest of the office space? it will be repurposed for something not considered in the future…
More social housing?
Are there any countries around the world that offer an official second-class citizenship?
Should the Frame Be Recognized as an Art Form?
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/it-time-recognize-frames-independent-artform-180975184/
buffy said:
Arts said:
Rule 303 said:Your type of job is not what I’m talking about.
If I can give you another example, one of the trade training organisations I work for has seven full time trainers for subjects they have no students of, but the government says they offer the course, so they have trainers and rooms and resources and equipment and administrative support. This might be a temporary state (just this year) or it might be permanent.
but the infrastructure and training was already there it wasn’t build for the maybe they will come.. but the maybe they will come back (surely?) … and it would be a sensible thing to start to filter off the availability if people don’t use the resources… so while their ‘redundancy’ might be temporary, if it isn’t then repurpose will occur eventually.
I have been keeping an eye on office space use in the city over this time period and will be interested to see how it changes.. given that I think there will be companies who will be happy to have their people work remotely and not retake up leases etc.. or at least reduce their floor space in light of five day fortnights on the floor. Then what happens to the rest of the office space? it will be repurposed for something not considered in the future…
More social housing?
I would guess that ideally it would turn into some sort of temporary stay accomodation.. perhaps for DV victims and such. But I suspect that long term accommodation isn’t ideal in an office building… the lack of facilities would mean a HUGE overhaul that is probably not worth anyones time or money… but it could certainly be utilised or emergency accomodation. Like a hostel type situation.
OK, caught up. Now I’m going to make some yoyo biscuits. I’m going to make a batch of vanilla, and a batch of chocolate. And join them with orange flavoured buttercream. So it will be a pale biscuit and a dark biscuit and buttercream filling. I haven’t thought of a name for them yet. I just think the combination should be good. And I’ve got a couple of oranges ripe on the tree.
Went to the dog beach. Jellybean discovered there are fish! She chased after them, ending up almost a kilometre away at the other end of the dog beach. I’d left Mini Me playing in the mud, but still within sight. When I got back, she was about two seconds away from a bluebottle sting. She hadn’t seen it because she was too busy making mud pies.
On the way back to the car after washing our feet, a guy (I’m presuming ASD) stopped dead in when he saw Jells. The scooter he was using made a screeching noise, which startled Jellybean so she barked, which scared the guy. His mum came up and explained he’s scared of dogs. (When I say guy, I’m guessing late teens.)
Also met a baby named Islalita (?). His mum said it was a mix of two names. Mini Me introduced herself and the mum said she’d never heard that name before.
party_pants said:
Are there any countries around the world that offer an official second-class citizenship?
I mean I doubt that they call it that. Obviously any number of countries offer permanent residency which in many cases is tantamount to 2CC.
HALLELUJAH MR MUTANT HAS CALLED A PLUMBER!
I assume he waited so long so the expense goes into next month’s budget.
Divine Angel said:
Went to the dog beach. Jellybean discovered there are fish! She chased after them, ending up almost a kilometre away at the other end of the dog beach. I’d left Mini Me playing in the mud, but still within sight. When I got back, she was about two seconds away from a bluebottle sting. She hadn’t seen it because she was too busy making mud pies.On the way back to the car after washing our feet, a guy (I’m presuming ASD) stopped dead in when he saw Jells. The scooter he was using made a screeching noise, which startled Jellybean so she barked, which scared the guy. His mum came up and explained he’s scared of dogs. (When I say guy, I’m guessing late teens.)
Also met a baby named Islalita (?). His mum said it was a mix of two names. Mini Me introduced herself and the mum said she’d never heard that name before.
Mini Me is an odd name.
Divine Angel said:
HALLELUJAH MR MUTANT HAS CALLED A PLUMBER!I assume he waited so long so the expense goes into next month’s budget.
and he shall drain for ever and e-e-ver
FOR EVER AND EVER
HALLELUJAH!
HALLELUJAH!
Divine Angel said:
Went to the dog beach. Jellybean discovered there are fish! She chased after them, ending up almost a kilometre away at the other end of the dog beach. I’d left Mini Me playing in the mud, but still within sight. When I got back, she was about two seconds away from a bluebottle sting. She hadn’t seen it because she was too busy making mud pies.On the way back to the car after washing our feet, a guy (I’m presuming ASD) stopped dead in when he saw Jells. The scooter he was using made a screeching noise, which startled Jellybean so she barked, which scared the guy. His mum came up and explained he’s scared of dogs. (When I say guy, I’m guessing late teens.)
Also met a baby named Islalita (?). His mum said it was a mix of two names. Mini Me introduced herself and the mum said she’d never heard that name before.
one of my friends prides herself on her ‘uniqueness’ and she named her daughter a mix of her dad and her father in law. it actually is a nice name but then one day, we were out at a park and she heard another parent calling the name and so she asked the woman why she was calling her daughter, to which, of course, the woman said that it was her daughters name.. spelled different but sounding the same… I think my friend got a little put out that day…
There has been some rain. I think my chip eating has been vindicated.
sibeen said:
furious said:
transition said:yeah I saw that, muttered something about jesus that’s old school, no GPS
To use a phone map you need to have GPS on and if GPS is on, you can be tracked. The bizarre thing here is the compass because if you have a street map, you don’t need a compass…
I doubt that the powers that be who run the GPS satellites let the chinese espionage services much access.
They already have their own or will do so soon iirc. The EU is also implementing their own.
My yoyo biscuits are weird. I used the recipe I’ve always used. I had to keep adding more butter to make the mixture come together. The only thing different is the butter I am using, because I can’t get my favourite Warrnambool butter at the moment. So I’m using Devondale. Which previously has been OK. I wonder what is going on. It’s not like I’ve never made yoyos before.
party_pants said:
Divine Angel said:
HALLELUJAH MR MUTANT HAS CALLED A PLUMBER!I assume he waited so long so the expense goes into next month’s budget.
and he shall drain for ever and e-e-ver
FOR EVER AND EVER
HALLELUJAH!
HALLELUJAH!
Bugger you – I sang that! (Yes, I’ve been in a choir that sang The Messiah)
Green bans are back. CFMEU won’t allow work to tear down two Victorian buildings to relocate the Power House museum.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-30/powerhouse-museum-union-supports-campaign-to-save-buildings/12405690
buffy said:
party_pants said:
Divine Angel said:
HALLELUJAH MR MUTANT HAS CALLED A PLUMBER!I assume he waited so long so the expense goes into next month’s budget.
and he shall drain for ever and e-e-ver
FOR EVER AND EVER
HALLELUJAH!
HALLELUJAH!
Bugger you – I sang that! (Yes, I’ve been in a choir that sang The Messiah)
sorry, I was feeling all whimsical, just for a brief moment.
buffy said:
My yoyo biscuits are weird. I used the recipe I’ve always used. I had to keep adding more butter to make the mixture come together. The only thing different is the butter I am using, because I can’t get my favourite Warrnambool butter at the moment. So I’m using Devondale. Which previously has been OK. I wonder what is going on. It’s not like I’ve never made yoyos before.
Is it pretend butter with added vegetable oils?
Michael V said:
Green bans are back. CFMEU won’t allow work to tear down two Victorian buildings to relocate the Power House museum.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-30/powerhouse-museum-union-supports-campaign-to-save-buildings/12405690
Victorian era private houses should not count as heritage-anything IMHO.
Michael V said:
buffy said:
My yoyo biscuits are weird. I used the recipe I’ve always used. I had to keep adding more butter to make the mixture come together. The only thing different is the butter I am using, because I can’t get my favourite Warrnambool butter at the moment. So I’m using Devondale. Which previously has been OK. I wonder what is going on. It’s not like I’ve never made yoyos before.Is it pretend butter with added vegetable oils?
No.
https://www.devondale.com.au/en/products/butter/salted-butter
Anyway, I’ll see how the buttercream filling goes.
buffy said:
Anyway, I’ll see how the buttercream filling goes.
OK, that worked fine. Now got jaffa yoyos on the bench.
party_pants said:
Michael V said:
Green bans are back. CFMEU won’t allow work to tear down two Victorian buildings to relocate the Power House museum.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-30/powerhouse-museum-union-supports-campaign-to-save-buildings/12405690
Victorian era private houses should not count as heritage-anything IMHO.
The real issue here is that the old Powerhouse Museum is being demolished regardless. Today was supposed to be its last day open, but this was extended only yesterday.
Food report. Tonight’s repast will be fried rice made with brown rice and whatever veggies I can find about the place.
That’s how you utilies what you have around you.
https://i.imgur.com/YPiADdz.mp4
party_pants said:
Victorian era private houses should not count as heritage-anything IMHO.
Seems a bit general
Speedy said:
party_pants said:
Michael V said:
Green bans are back. CFMEU won’t allow work to tear down two Victorian buildings to relocate the Power House museum.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-30/powerhouse-museum-union-supports-campaign-to-save-buildings/12405690
Victorian era private houses should not count as heritage-anything IMHO.
The real issue here is that the old Powerhouse Museum is being demolished regardless. Today was supposed to be its last day open, but this was extended only yesterday.
I think that an amazing thing about the Powerhouse Museum is the conserved and running Boulton & Watt steam engine. It was donated and shipped to NSW for the centenary of the colony.
“The oldest extant rotative steam engine, the Whitbread Engine , is located in the Powerhouse Museum in Sydney, Australia.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watt_steam_engine#Preserved_Watt_engines
See also:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitbread_Engine
dv said:
party_pants said:
Victorian era private houses should not count as heritage-anything IMHO.
Seems a bit general
Houses should be semi-permanent. They should be put up, used, then taken down again and replaced in the fullness of time, or the land reused or repurposed for something else. Terraced housing in particular is an abomination.
Michael V said:
Speedy said:
party_pants said:Victorian era private houses should not count as heritage-anything IMHO.
The real issue here is that the old Powerhouse Museum is being demolished regardless. Today was supposed to be its last day open, but this was extended only yesterday.
I think that an amazing thing about the Powerhouse Museum is the conserved and running Boulton & Watt steam engine. It was donated and shipped to NSW for the centenary of the colony.
“The oldest extant rotative steam engine, the Whitbread Engine, from 1785, the third rotative engine ever built, is located in the Powerhouse Museum in Sydney, Australia.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watt_steam_engine#Preserved_Watt_engines
See also:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitbread_Engine
Formatting fixed…
party_pants said:
dv said:
party_pants said:
Victorian era private houses should not count as heritage-anything IMHO.
Seems a bit general
Houses should be semi-permanent. They should be put up, used, then taken down again and replaced in the fullness of time, or the land reused or repurposed for something else. Terraced housing in particular is an abomination.
Broadly I agree
Speedy said:
The real issue here is that the old Powerhouse Museum is being demolished regardless. Today was supposed to be its last day open, but this was extended only yesterday.
Let me guess: the Darling Harbour site will be graced with inner-city dwellings for the discerning classes?
https://gablok.be/en/
Consider building your house out of big lego blocks
So I’ve ordered and paid for this drone, the transaction went through Patpal somehow but I’m not a member.
I got this one because the price is right and it has an 8k range.
Gunna be a while before it gets here.
rubs hands
https://au.banggood.com/Xiaomi-FIMI-X8-SE-2020-8KM-FPV-With-3-axis-Gimbal-4K-Camera-HDR-Video-GPS-35mins-Flight-Time-RC-Quadcopter-RTF-One-Battery-Version-p-1658676.html?gmcCountry=AU¤cy=AUD&cur_warehouse=CN&createTmp=1&ID=6288102&utm_source=googleshopping&utm_medium=cpc_bgcs&utm_content=frank&utm_campaign=frank-ssc-aug-toys-spa-0522&ad_id=437137107032&gclid=CjwKCAjwxev3BRBBEiwAiB_PWLXvKb4BjhTA7349wcJXXQeaVk-xe0oPyFuoUwTHj3-Ubv3URkr7bRoC8lcQAvD_BwE
Tunguska day today
party_pants said:
dv said:
party_pants said:
Victorian era private houses should not count as heritage-anything IMHO.
Seems a bit general
Houses should be semi-permanent. They should be put up, used, then taken down again and replaced in the fullness of time, or the land reused or repurposed for something else. Terraced housing in particular is an abomination.
If that were to be done, then amazing places like Landshut, Germany would no longer exist.
Cymek said:
Tunguska day today
Already?
Where does a year go?
dv said:
https://gablok.be/en/Consider building your house out of big lego blocks
Nice, but I prefer corrugated iron.
Peak Warming Man said:
So I’ve ordered and paid for this drone, the transaction went through Patpal somehow but I’m not a member.
I got this one because the price is right and it has an 8k range.
Gunna be a while before it gets here.
rubs handshttps://au.banggood.com/Xiaomi-FIMI-X8-SE-2020-8KM-FPV-With-3-axis-Gimbal-4K-Camera-HDR-Video-GPS-35mins-Flight-Time-RC-Quadcopter-RTF-One-Battery-Version-p-1658676.html?gmcCountry=AU¤cy=AUD&cur_warehouse=CN&createTmp=1&ID=6288102&utm_source=googleshopping&utm_medium=cpc_bgcs&utm_content=frank&utm_campaign=frank-ssc-aug-toys-spa-0522&ad_id=437137107032&gclid=CjwKCAjwxev3BRBBEiwAiB_PWLXvKb4BjhTA7349wcJXXQeaVk-xe0oPyFuoUwTHj3-Ubv3URkr7bRoC8lcQAvD_BwE
So you going to use this to hunt for the wayward cattle?
buffy said:
Food report. Tonight’s repast will be fried rice made with brown rice and whatever veggies I can find about the place.
This end it’s bangers & mash with Brussels and onion gravy.
Peak Warming Man said:
So I’ve ordered and paid for this drone, the transaction went through Patpal somehow but I’m not a member.
I got this one because the price is right and it has an 8k range.
Gunna be a while before it gets here.
rubs handshttps://au.banggood.com/Xiaomi-FIMI-X8-SE-2020-8KM-FPV-With-3-axis-Gimbal-4K-Camera-HDR-Video-GPS-35mins-Flight-Time-RC-Quadcopter-RTF-One-Battery-Version-p-1658676.html?gmcCountry=AU¤cy=AUD&cur_warehouse=CN&createTmp=1&ID=6288102&utm_source=googleshopping&utm_medium=cpc_bgcs&utm_content=frank&utm_campaign=frank-ssc-aug-toys-spa-0522&ad_id=437137107032&gclid=CjwKCAjwxev3BRBBEiwAiB_PWLXvKb4BjhTA7349wcJXXQeaVk-xe0oPyFuoUwTHj3-Ubv3URkr7bRoC8lcQAvD_BwE
You going to find out where your cattle were rustled to?
Peak Warming Man said:
So I’ve ordered and paid for this drone, the transaction went through Patpal somehow but I’m not a member.
I got this one because the price is right and it has an 8k range.
Gunna be a while before it gets here.
rubs handshttps://au.banggood.com/Xiaomi-FIMI-X8-SE-2020-8KM-FPV-With-3-axis-Gimbal-4K-Camera-HDR-Video-GPS-35mins-Flight-Time-RC-Quadcopter-RTF-One-Battery-Version-p-1658676.html?gmcCountry=AU¤cy=AUD&cur_warehouse=CN&createTmp=1&ID=6288102&utm_source=googleshopping&utm_medium=cpc_bgcs&utm_content=frank&utm_campaign=frank-ssc-aug-toys-spa-0522&ad_id=437137107032&gclid=CjwKCAjwxev3BRBBEiwAiB_PWLXvKb4BjhTA7349wcJXXQeaVk-xe0oPyFuoUwTHj3-Ubv3URkr7bRoC8lcQAvD_BwE
They sent me an email about shipping, the dates don’t fill me with confidence.

Michael V said:
party_pants said:
dv said:Seems a bit general
Houses should be semi-permanent. They should be put up, used, then taken down again and replaced in the fullness of time, or the land reused or repurposed for something else. Terraced housing in particular is an abomination.
If that were to be done, then amazing places like Landshut, Germany would no longer exist.
Or replaced with something nicer and better. You can make local ordinances about the height and styles of buildings to create human spaces with interesting shapes and details. Preserving the actual timbers and bricks used in old constructions is sometimes going a bit too far, it can create spaces that are just as dead and sterile as any early-modern concrete and glass monolith. I don’t like non human-scale mass concrete and glass monotony either.
sibeen said:
Peak Warming Man said:
So I’ve ordered and paid for this drone, the transaction went through Patpal somehow but I’m not a member.
I got this one because the price is right and it has an 8k range.
Gunna be a while before it gets here.
rubs handshttps://au.banggood.com/Xiaomi-FIMI-X8-SE-2020-8KM-FPV-With-3-axis-Gimbal-4K-Camera-HDR-Video-GPS-35mins-Flight-Time-RC-Quadcopter-RTF-One-Battery-Version-p-1658676.html?gmcCountry=AU¤cy=AUD&cur_warehouse=CN&createTmp=1&ID=6288102&utm_source=googleshopping&utm_medium=cpc_bgcs&utm_content=frank&utm_campaign=frank-ssc-aug-toys-spa-0522&ad_id=437137107032&gclid=CjwKCAjwxev3BRBBEiwAiB_PWLXvKb4BjhTA7349wcJXXQeaVk-xe0oPyFuoUwTHj3-Ubv3URkr7bRoC8lcQAvD_BwE
So you going to use this to hunt for the wayward cattle?
Yeah and check fencing.
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:
So I’ve ordered and paid for this drone, the transaction went through Patpal somehow but I’m not a member.
I got this one because the price is right and it has an 8k range.
Gunna be a while before it gets here.
rubs handshttps://au.banggood.com/Xiaomi-FIMI-X8-SE-2020-8KM-FPV-With-3-axis-Gimbal-4K-Camera-HDR-Video-GPS-35mins-Flight-Time-RC-Quadcopter-RTF-One-Battery-Version-p-1658676.html?gmcCountry=AU¤cy=AUD&cur_warehouse=CN&createTmp=1&ID=6288102&utm_source=googleshopping&utm_medium=cpc_bgcs&utm_content=frank&utm_campaign=frank-ssc-aug-toys-spa-0522&ad_id=437137107032&gclid=CjwKCAjwxev3BRBBEiwAiB_PWLXvKb4BjhTA7349wcJXXQeaVk-xe0oPyFuoUwTHj3-Ubv3URkr7bRoC8lcQAvD_BwE
They sent me an email about shipping, the dates don’t fill me with confidence.
ROFL
Peak Warming Man said:
Peak Warming Man said:
So I’ve ordered and paid for this drone, the transaction went through Patpal somehow but I’m not a member.
I got this one because the price is right and it has an 8k range.
Gunna be a while before it gets here.
rubs handshttps://au.banggood.com/Xiaomi-FIMI-X8-SE-2020-8KM-FPV-With-3-axis-Gimbal-4K-Camera-HDR-Video-GPS-35mins-Flight-Time-RC-Quadcopter-RTF-One-Battery-Version-p-1658676.html?gmcCountry=AU¤cy=AUD&cur_warehouse=CN&createTmp=1&ID=6288102&utm_source=googleshopping&utm_medium=cpc_bgcs&utm_content=frank&utm_campaign=frank-ssc-aug-toys-spa-0522&ad_id=437137107032&gclid=CjwKCAjwxev3BRBBEiwAiB_PWLXvKb4BjhTA7349wcJXXQeaVk-xe0oPyFuoUwTHj3-Ubv3URkr7bRoC8lcQAvD_BwE
They sent me an email about shipping, the dates don’t fill me with confidence.
You might be dealing with a defunct company.
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
So I’ve ordered and paid for this drone, the transaction went through Patpal somehow but I’m not a member.
I got this one because the price is right and it has an 8k range.
Gunna be a while before it gets here.
rubs handshttps://au.banggood.com/Xiaomi-FIMI-X8-SE-2020-8KM-FPV-With-3-axis-Gimbal-4K-Camera-HDR-Video-GPS-35mins-Flight-Time-RC-Quadcopter-RTF-One-Battery-Version-p-1658676.html?gmcCountry=AU¤cy=AUD&cur_warehouse=CN&createTmp=1&ID=6288102&utm_source=googleshopping&utm_medium=cpc_bgcs&utm_content=frank&utm_campaign=frank-ssc-aug-toys-spa-0522&ad_id=437137107032&gclid=CjwKCAjwxev3BRBBEiwAiB_PWLXvKb4BjhTA7349wcJXXQeaVk-xe0oPyFuoUwTHj3-Ubv3URkr7bRoC8lcQAvD_BwE
You going to find out where your cattle were rustled to?
duffed in australia,
Peak Warming Man said:
sibeen said:
Peak Warming Man said:
So I’ve ordered and paid for this drone, the transaction went through Patpal somehow but I’m not a member.
I got this one because the price is right and it has an 8k range.
Gunna be a while before it gets here.
rubs handshttps://au.banggood.com/Xiaomi-FIMI-X8-SE-2020-8KM-FPV-With-3-axis-Gimbal-4K-Camera-HDR-Video-GPS-35mins-Flight-Time-RC-Quadcopter-RTF-One-Battery-Version-p-1658676.html?gmcCountry=AU¤cy=AUD&cur_warehouse=CN&createTmp=1&ID=6288102&utm_source=googleshopping&utm_medium=cpc_bgcs&utm_content=frank&utm_campaign=frank-ssc-aug-toys-spa-0522&ad_id=437137107032&gclid=CjwKCAjwxev3BRBBEiwAiB_PWLXvKb4BjhTA7349wcJXXQeaVk-xe0oPyFuoUwTHj3-Ubv3URkr7bRoC8lcQAvD_BwE
So you going to use this to hunt for the wayward cattle?
Yeah and check fencing.
What a world we live in.
Peak Warming Man said:
sibeen said:
Peak Warming Man said:
So I’ve ordered and paid for this drone, the transaction went through Patpal somehow but I’m not a member.
I got this one because the price is right and it has an 8k range.
Gunna be a while before it gets here.
rubs handshttps://au.banggood.com/Xiaomi-FIMI-X8-SE-2020-8KM-FPV-With-3-axis-Gimbal-4K-Camera-HDR-Video-GPS-35mins-Flight-Time-RC-Quadcopter-RTF-One-Battery-Version-p-1658676.html?gmcCountry=AU¤cy=AUD&cur_warehouse=CN&createTmp=1&ID=6288102&utm_source=googleshopping&utm_medium=cpc_bgcs&utm_content=frank&utm_campaign=frank-ssc-aug-toys-spa-0522&ad_id=437137107032&gclid=CjwKCAjwxev3BRBBEiwAiB_PWLXvKb4BjhTA7349wcJXXQeaVk-xe0oPyFuoUwTHj3-Ubv3URkr7bRoC8lcQAvD_BwE
So you going to use this to hunt for the wayward cattle?
Yeah and check fencing.
And saves bogging the triton ….. again :)
Michael V said:
Speedy said:
party_pants said:Victorian era private houses should not count as heritage-anything IMHO.
The real issue here is that the old Powerhouse Museum is being demolished regardless. Today was supposed to be its last day open, but this was extended only yesterday.
I think that an amazing thing about the Powerhouse Museum is the conserved and running Boulton & Watt steam engine. It was donated and shipped to NSW for the centenary of the colony.
“The oldest extant rotative steam engine, the Whitbread Engine , is located in the Powerhouse Museum in Sydney, Australia.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watt_steam_engine#Preserved_Watt_engines
See also:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitbread_Engine
I took some photos when we were there last time, in January, but will only post this one unless I can find how to fix the orientation on here.
JudgeMental said:
Michael V said:
Peak Warming Man said:
So I’ve ordered and paid for this drone, the transaction went through Patpal somehow but I’m not a member.
I got this one because the price is right and it has an 8k range.
Gunna be a while before it gets here.
rubs handshttps://au.banggood.com/Xiaomi-FIMI-X8-SE-2020-8KM-FPV-With-3-axis-Gimbal-4K-Camera-HDR-Video-GPS-35mins-Flight-Time-RC-Quadcopter-RTF-One-Battery-Version-p-1658676.html?gmcCountry=AU¤cy=AUD&cur_warehouse=CN&createTmp=1&ID=6288102&utm_source=googleshopping&utm_medium=cpc_bgcs&utm_content=frank&utm_campaign=frank-ssc-aug-toys-spa-0522&ad_id=437137107032&gclid=CjwKCAjwxev3BRBBEiwAiB_PWLXvKb4BjhTA7349wcJXXQeaVk-xe0oPyFuoUwTHj3-Ubv3URkr7bRoC8lcQAvD_BwE
You going to find out where your cattle were rustled to?
duffed in australia,
Maybe in Western parts…
Michael V said:
JudgeMental said:
Michael V said:You going to find out where your cattle were rustled to?
duffed in australia,
Maybe in Western parts…
Looks like a pretty reasonable drone.
Speedy said:
Michael V said:
Speedy said:The real issue here is that the old Powerhouse Museum is being demolished regardless. Today was supposed to be its last day open, but this was extended only yesterday.
I think that an amazing thing about the Powerhouse Museum is the conserved and running Boulton & Watt steam engine. It was donated and shipped to NSW for the centenary of the colony.
“The oldest extant rotative steam engine, the Whitbread Engine , is located in the Powerhouse Museum in Sydney, Australia.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watt_steam_engine#Preserved_Watt_engines
See also:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitbread_Engine
I took some photos when we were there last time, in January, but will only post this one unless I can find how to fix the orientation on here.
Ta.
Try Irfanview.
Michael V said:
JudgeMental said:
Michael V said:You going to find out where your cattle were rustled to?
duffed in australia,
Maybe in Western parts…
No.
https://www.queenslandcountrylife.com.au/story/5743258/what-next-cattle-duffing-cripples-queensland-graziers/
sibeen said:
Peak Warming Man said:
sibeen said:So you going to use this to hunt for the wayward cattle?
Yeah and check fencing.
What a world we live in.
But where is the fun in that? Surely the gentry would ride the boundaries on a thoroughbred horse, perhaps glamping along the way if necessary. Of course, the servants would need to be sent on ahead.
JudgeMental said:
Michael V said:
JudgeMental said:duffed in australia,
Maybe in Western parts…
No.
https://www.queenslandcountrylife.com.au/story/5743258/what-next-cattle-duffing-cripples-queensland-graziers/
p30:
https://www.parliament.qld.gov.au/documents/explore/researchpublications/researchbriefs/2002/2002008.pdf
Macquarie Dictionary of Australian Slang is the best bet for those
in need of a dictionary of this kind.
In his introduction, Wilkes notes that the first edition came out in 1978 and was
the culmination of ten years’ work. The fifth edition, therefore, is the product
of four decades of work. The span of this constructive effort is patently clear.
To begin with, the dictionary has a wonderful spread of colloquialisms, both
183
current and obsolete and from all walks of Australian life. The browser will
learn that poddy-dodging is a kind of cattle rustling, that noodling consists of
fossicking in the rubble of old claims for opals, that poached eggs and silent
cops are the raised round metal disks (often painted yellow) that are sometimes
used at corners to divide the sides of the road.
http://press-files.anu.edu.au/downloads/press/p39271/pdf/review06.pdf
Michael V said:
Speedy said:
Michael V said:I think that an amazing thing about the Powerhouse Museum is the conserved and running Boulton & Watt steam engine. It was donated and shipped to NSW for the centenary of the colony.
“The oldest extant rotative steam engine, the Whitbread Engine , is located in the Powerhouse Museum in Sydney, Australia.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watt_steam_engine#Preserved_Watt_engines
See also:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitbread_Engine
I took some photos when we were there last time, in January, but will only post this one unless I can find how to fix the orientation on here.
Ta.
Try Irfanview.
Thanks. I already have an image editor, but the photos are the right way around on my computer. Not sure why, when I upload them here, they then turn sideways.
Nice try
https://i.imgur.com/d2aSxGY.mp4
Michael V said:
JudgeMental said:
Michael V said:Maybe in Western parts…
No.
https://www.queenslandcountrylife.com.au/story/5743258/what-next-cattle-duffing-cripples-queensland-graziers/
p30:
https://www.parliament.qld.gov.au/documents/explore/researchpublications/researchbriefs/2002/2002008.pdf
Macquarie Dictionary of Australian Slang is the best bet for those
in need of a dictionary of this kind.
In his introduction, Wilkes notes that the first edition came out in 1978 and was
the culmination of ten years’ work. The fifth edition, therefore, is the product
of four decades of work. The span of this constructive effort is patently clear.
To begin with, the dictionary has a wonderful spread of colloquialisms, both
183
current and obsolete and from all walks of Australian life. The browser will
learn that poddy-dodging is a kind of cattle rustling, that noodling consists of
fossicking in the rubble of old claims for opals, that poached eggs and silent
cops are the raised round metal disks (often painted yellow) that are sometimes
used at corners to divide the sides of the road.http://press-files.anu.edu.au/downloads/press/p39271/pdf/review06.pdf
in victoria i knew them as dumb cops. so it seems the macquarie misses stuff.
https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/trio-charged-with-cunnamulla-cattle-duffing-20160408-go1c2x.html
https://www.thechronicle.com.au/news/state-acts-with-cattle-duffing-laws/2058312/
heaps of references to duffing.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2006-09-01/cattle-industry-prefers-duffing-to-rustling/1253162
JudgeMental said:
Michael V said:
JudgeMental said:No.
https://www.queenslandcountrylife.com.au/story/5743258/what-next-cattle-duffing-cripples-queensland-graziers/
p30:
https://www.parliament.qld.gov.au/documents/explore/researchpublications/researchbriefs/2002/2002008.pdf
Macquarie Dictionary of Australian Slang is the best bet for those
in need of a dictionary of this kind.
In his introduction, Wilkes notes that the first edition came out in 1978 and was
the culmination of ten years’ work. The fifth edition, therefore, is the product
of four decades of work. The span of this constructive effort is patently clear.
To begin with, the dictionary has a wonderful spread of colloquialisms, both
183
current and obsolete and from all walks of Australian life. The browser will
learn that poddy-dodging is a kind of cattle rustling, that noodling consists of
fossicking in the rubble of old claims for opals, that poached eggs and silent
cops are the raised round metal disks (often painted yellow) that are sometimes
used at corners to divide the sides of the road.http://press-files.anu.edu.au/downloads/press/p39271/pdf/review06.pdf
in victoria i knew them as dumb cops. so it seems the macquarie misses stuff.
https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/trio-charged-with-cunnamulla-cattle-duffing-20160408-go1c2x.html
https://www.thechronicle.com.au/news/state-acts-with-cattle-duffing-laws/2058312/
heaps of references to duffing.
I know rustling is used in the NSW highlands and western NSW, (as is duffing). They seem to be interchangeable in those areas.
The first reference to rustling in my submission above (the p30 ref) comes from the Courier Mail, but was in a report to parliament.
duffing is an australianism. lets keep our heritage alive.
:-)
Michael V said:
JudgeMental said:
Michael V said:p30:
https://www.parliament.qld.gov.au/documents/explore/researchpublications/researchbriefs/2002/2002008.pdf
Macquarie Dictionary of Australian Slang is the best bet for those
in need of a dictionary of this kind.
In his introduction, Wilkes notes that the first edition came out in 1978 and was
the culmination of ten years’ work. The fifth edition, therefore, is the product
of four decades of work. The span of this constructive effort is patently clear.
To begin with, the dictionary has a wonderful spread of colloquialisms, both
183
current and obsolete and from all walks of Australian life. The browser will
learn that poddy-dodging is a kind of cattle rustling, that noodling consists of
fossicking in the rubble of old claims for opals, that poached eggs and silent
cops are the raised round metal disks (often painted yellow) that are sometimes
used at corners to divide the sides of the road.http://press-files.anu.edu.au/downloads/press/p39271/pdf/review06.pdf
in victoria i knew them as dumb cops. so it seems the macquarie misses stuff.
https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/trio-charged-with-cunnamulla-cattle-duffing-20160408-go1c2x.html
https://www.thechronicle.com.au/news/state-acts-with-cattle-duffing-laws/2058312/
heaps of references to duffing.
I know rustling is used in the NSW highlands and western NSW, (as is duffing). They seem to be interchangeable in those areas.
The first reference to rustling in my submission above (the p30 ref) comes from the Courier Mail, but was in a report to parliament.
Oh, and I should point out that in those regions (in the time I lived in those places – before 2006) it was always sheep duffing. “Cattle” was used with either the d or r suffixed “stealing” or “theft” word.
JudgeMental said:
duffing is an australianism. lets keep our heritage alive.:-)
You old duffer, you.
Michael V said:
JudgeMental said:
duffing is an australianism. lets keep our heritage alive.:-)
You old duffer, you.
It also confuses those foreigners.
They said I was mad to build a museum in a swamp…
Short excerpt from Thin Blue Line. I’d forgotten how well written some of this show was.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7ThhuIUll8
buffy said:
sibeen said:
Peak Warming Man said:Yeah and check fencing.
What a world we live in.
But where is the fun in that? Surely the gentry would ride the boundaries on a thoroughbred horse, perhaps glamping along the way if necessary. Of course, the servants would need to be sent on ahead.
Yes – when was anyone known as the Singing Drone Man?
party_pants said:
Short excerpt from Thin Blue Line. I’d forgotten how well written some of this show was.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7ThhuIUll8
Chief todger :)
Another engineering question, anyone?
Speedy said:
Another engineering question, anyone?
I’m good for now. I’ll let you know when I have any.
Speedy said:
Another engineering question, anyone?
dv wants to work on his dimensional analysis :)
Speedy said:
Another engineering question, anyone?
I’m not an engineer, nor do I drink like one, but I’ll have a look at it for you.
JudgeMental said:
Speedy said:
Another engineering question, anyone?
I’m not an engineer, nor do I drink like one, but I’ll have a look at it for you.
If you can be wrong by an order of magnitude you should be fine…
JudgeMental said:
Speedy said:
Another engineering question, anyone?
I’m not an engineer, nor do I drink like one, but I’ll have a look at it for you.
slurps on cup tea
What’s that?
sibeen said:
JudgeMental said:
Speedy said:
Another engineering question, anyone?
I’m not an engineer, nor do I drink like one, but I’ll have a look at it for you.
slurps on cup tea
What’s that?
I don’t slurp my tea. i’m refined.
sibeen said:
Speedy said:
Another engineering question, anyone?
dv wants to work on his dimensional analysis :)
JudgeMental said:
Speedy said:
Another engineering question, anyone?
I’m not an engineer, nor do I drink like one, but I’ll have a look at it for you.
Okay thanks. Here it is …
A boat of mass 2 tonnes rests on a slip which is inclined at 20 degrees to the horizontal. The coefficient of static friction between the slip rails and the boat being 0.3. Determine the least force (F) needed in the winch cable to move the boat a) up the slip, and b) down the slip with constant velocity, given the cable is parallel to the rails.
Speedy said:
JudgeMental said:
Speedy said:
Another engineering question, anyone?
I’m not an engineer, nor do I drink like one, but I’ll have a look at it for you.
Okay thanks. Here it is …
A boat of mass 2 tonnes rests on a slip which is inclined at 20 degrees to the horizontal. The coefficient of static friction between the slip rails and the boat being 0.3. Determine the least force (F) needed in the winch cable to move the boat a) up the slip, and b) down the slip with constant velocity, given the cable is parallel to the rails.
a)
The forces in the plane of the slip are
F =sin20 * 9.8 * 2000 + 2000 * 0.3
F = 7303 N
Speedy said:
JudgeMental said:
Speedy said:
Another engineering question, anyone?
I’m not an engineer, nor do I drink like one, but I’ll have a look at it for you.
Okay thanks. Here it is …
A boat of mass 2 tonnes rests on a slip which is inclined at 20 degrees to the horizontal. The coefficient of static friction between the slip rails and the boat being 0.3. Determine the least force (F) needed in the winch cable to move the boat a) up the slip, and b) down the slip with constant velocity, given the cable is parallel to the rails.
Actually I think this video explains it.
Minimum Force to Overcome Friction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WldiRFIhqYU
Speedy said:
JudgeMental said:
Speedy said:
Another engineering question, anyone?
I’m not an engineer, nor do I drink like one, but I’ll have a look at it for you.
Okay thanks. Here it is …
A boat of mass 2 tonnes rests on a slip which is inclined at 20 degrees to the horizontal. The coefficient of static friction between the slip rails and the boat being 0.3. Determine the least force (F) needed in the winch cable to move the boat a) up the slip, and b) down the slip with constant velocity, given the cable is parallel to the rails.
First draw up a triangle and use that to calculate the reactive force ®. You know the mass, and gravity.
Then apply the equation:
F = uR. (where u = coefficient of static friction)
dv said:
Speedy said:
JudgeMental said:I’m not an engineer, nor do I drink like one, but I’ll have a look at it for you.
Okay thanks. Here it is …
A boat of mass 2 tonnes rests on a slip which is inclined at 20 degrees to the horizontal. The coefficient of static friction between the slip rails and the boat being 0.3. Determine the least force (F) needed in the winch cable to move the boat a) up the slip, and b) down the slip with constant velocity, given the cable is parallel to the rails.
a)
The forces in the plane of the slip are
F =sin20 * 9.8 * 2000 + 2000 * 0.3
F = 7303 N
That was quick, dv. I was still trying to work out whether you needed sin or cos and was drawing it out :)
An English person, a French person, a Spanish person and a German person log in to a Zoom meeting. Their boss also logs in and says, “Can you see me?”
They respond:
“Yes.”
“Oui.”
“Si.”
“Ja.”
Divine Angel said:
An English person, a French person, a Spanish person and a German person log in to a Zoom meeting. Their boss also logs in and says, “Can you see me?”They respond:
“Yes.”
“Oui.”
“Si.”
“Ja.”
:)
sibeen said:
dv said:
Speedy said:Okay thanks. Here it is …
A boat of mass 2 tonnes rests on a slip which is inclined at 20 degrees to the horizontal. The coefficient of static friction between the slip rails and the boat being 0.3. Determine the least force (F) needed in the winch cable to move the boat a) up the slip, and b) down the slip with constant velocity, given the cable is parallel to the rails.
a)
The forces in the plane of the slip are
F =sin20 * 9.8 * 2000 + 2000 * 0.3
F = 7303 N
That was quick, dv. I was still trying to work out whether you needed sin or cos and was drawing it out :)
I might even be right.
I had to have a bit of a think about b. Left to its own devices this boat will just slide down the ramp accelerating. But in this case, the F will be in the same direction as the frictional force, both opposing the gravitational force (or rather the component thereof in the plane of the slip).
F = sin20*9.8 * 2000 – 2000 * 0.3 = 6104 N
Divine Angel said:
An English person, a French person, a Spanish person and a German person log in to a Zoom meeting. Their boss also logs in and says, “Can you see me?”They respond:
“Yes.”
“Oui.”
“Si.”
“Ja.”
Amusing
dv said:
Speedy said:
JudgeMental said:I’m not an engineer, nor do I drink like one, but I’ll have a look at it for you.
Okay thanks. Here it is …
A boat of mass 2 tonnes rests on a slip which is inclined at 20 degrees to the horizontal. The coefficient of static friction between the slip rails and the boat being 0.3. Determine the least force (F) needed in the winch cable to move the boat a) up the slip, and b) down the slip with constant velocity, given the cable is parallel to the rails.
a)
The forces in the plane of the slip are
F =sin20 * 9.8 * 2000 + 2000 * 0.3
F = 7303 N
Thanks dv. With b), is there even any force required, or is that like yesterday’s man working question?
Michael V said:
Speedy said:
JudgeMental said:I’m not an engineer, nor do I drink like one, but I’ll have a look at it for you.
Okay thanks. Here it is …
A boat of mass 2 tonnes rests on a slip which is inclined at 20 degrees to the horizontal. The coefficient of static friction between the slip rails and the boat being 0.3. Determine the least force (F) needed in the winch cable to move the boat a) up the slip, and b) down the slip with constant velocity, given the cable is parallel to the rails.
First draw up a triangle and use that to calculate the reactive force ®. You know the mass, and gravity.
Then apply the equation:
F = uR. (where u = coefficient of static friction)
Thanks MV.
Speedy said:
Michael V said:
Speedy said:Okay thanks. Here it is …
A boat of mass 2 tonnes rests on a slip which is inclined at 20 degrees to the horizontal. The coefficient of static friction between the slip rails and the boat being 0.3. Determine the least force (F) needed in the winch cable to move the boat a) up the slip, and b) down the slip with constant velocity, given the cable is parallel to the rails.
First draw up a triangle and use that to calculate the reactive force ®. You know the mass, and gravity.
Then apply the equation:
F = uR. (where u = coefficient of static friction)
Thanks MV.
Hey, I was drawing it out, you know!
:)
sibeen said:
Speedy said:
Michael V said:First draw up a triangle and use that to calculate the reactive force ®. You know the mass, and gravity.
Then apply the equation:
F = uR. (where u = coefficient of static friction)
Thanks MV.
Hey, I was drawing it out, you know!
:)
Thanks sibeen :)
Speedy said:
sibeen said:
Speedy said:Thanks MV.
Hey, I was drawing it out, you know!
:)
Thanks sibeen :)
:)
God I’ve fucked it up.
Far out.
Sorry.
sibeen said:
Speedy said:
Michael V said:First draw up a triangle and use that to calculate the reactive force ®. You know the mass, and gravity.
Then apply the equation:
F = uR. (where u = coefficient of static friction)
Thanks MV.
Hey, I was drawing it out, you know!
:)
:)
I was hoping Speedy Jr would be encouraged to draw the triangle and work it out for himself.
And I don’t know how to insert the character for mu.
And I now know that ( R ) probably needs spaces instead of ®…
Speedy said:
sibeen said:
Speedy said:Thanks MV.
Hey, I was drawing it out, you know!
:)
Thanks sibeen :)
no worries.
Like I was saying:
a)
The forces in the plane of the slip are
F =sin20 * 9.8 * 2000 + 2000 * 0.3 * 9.8
F = 12584 N
——
b)
F = sin20 * 9.8 * 2000 – 2000 * 0.3 * 9.8
= 823 N
dv said:
God I’ve fucked it up.Far out.
Sorry.
sigh
:)
ROFL
You’d think I’d‘ve taken some care right after that crack about dimensional analysis.
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
Speedy said:Thanks MV.
Hey, I was drawing it out, you know!
:)
:)
I was hoping Speedy Jr would be encouraged to draw the triangle and work it out for himself.
And I don’t know how to insert the character for mu.
And I now know that ( R ) probably needs spaces instead of ®…
Yes, he had already drawn the triangle, but doesn’t know where to begin with this one. He has moved on to other questions now. I’ll post again later if he’s still stuck.
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
An English person, a French person, a Spanish person and a German person log in to a Zoom meeting. Their boss also logs in and says, “Can you see me?”They respond:
“Yes.”
“Oui.”
“Si.”
“Ja.”
:)
polite applause at best I woulda giv’n it.
dv said:
Like I was saying:a)
The forces in the plane of the slip are
F =sin20 * 9.8 * 2000 + 2000 * 0.3 * 9.8
F = 12584 N
——
b)
F = sin20 * 9.8 * 2000 – 2000 * 0.3 * 9.8
= 823 N
Damn, I was just about to announce your error to a shocked audience.

JudgeMental said:
I reckon that is an unrealistic portrayal of Trump’s relationship with Barron.
Witty Rejoinder said:
JudgeMental said:
I reckon that is an unrealistic portrayal of Trump’s relationship with Barron.
‘arsh
Witty Rejoinder said:
JudgeMental said:
I reckon that is an unrealistic portrayal of Trump’s relationship with Barron.
that would have been deleted if posted on the SSSF FB page.
JudgeMental said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
JudgeMental said:
I reckon that is an unrealistic portrayal of Trump’s relationship with Barron.
that would have been deleted if posted on the SSSF FB page.
That place is like a benevolent dictatorship without the benevolence.
Witty Rejoinder said:
JudgeMental said:
Witty Rejoinder said:I reckon that is an unrealistic portrayal of Trump’s relationship with Barron.
that would have been deleted if posted on the SSSF FB page.
That place is like a benevolent dictatorship without the benevolence.
Pfffft nobody complains. twice.
JudgeMental said:

Here are some Powerhouse Museum photos from January that I mentioned earlier.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toast_sandwich
dv said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toast_sandwich
a toasted toast sandwich
Ed is missing from that toast sandwich.
Speedy said:
Ed is missing from that toast sandwich.
Sadly no.
Where would cuisine be without England?
Speedy said:
Ed is missing from that toast sandwich.
He can talk and eats like a horse.
JudgeMental said:
Speedy said:
Ed is missing from that toast sandwich.
He can talk and eats like a horse.
someone heard this song for Satan
dv said:
Speedy said:
Ed is missing from that toast sandwich.
Sadly no.
Where would cuisine be without England?
Funny you should say that. a few of the meals we had as kids, cheap and tasty and some ideal for a cold climate, have now become artisanal on cooking shows. titivated up.
JudgeMental said:
dv said:
Speedy said:
Ed is missing from that toast sandwich.
Sadly no.
Where would cuisine be without England?
Funny you should say that. a few of the meals we had as kids, cheap and tasty and some ideal for a cold climate, have now become artisanal on cooking shows. titivated up.
https://asteroidday.org
Live stream from Luxembourg. astronomers and other sciencey types talking.
JudgeMental said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
JudgeMental said:
I reckon that is an unrealistic portrayal of Trump’s relationship with Barron.
that would have been deleted if posted on the SSSF FB page.
Why?
Speedy said:
JudgeMental said:
dv said:Sadly no.
Where would cuisine be without England?
Funny you should say that. a few of the meals we had as kids, cheap and tasty and some ideal for a cold climate, have now become artisanal on cooking shows. titivated up.
ROFL
That’s grouse, Speedy :)
About bloody time: is cinema finally going with the flow of period sex?
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/jun/30/about-bloody-time-is-cinema-finally-going-with-the-flow-of-period-sex
You have to give the sub editor some dibs for that headline with that article.
best get another fire going, wench be out here nagging me in a moment
itchy left ear reciprocating action with pointer finger in ear
been told need put stuff away tonight, windy and showers tomorrow
put music equipment away, did have a music session today, not that could hear much, since my cranium couple year ago started to exhibit expansionist tendencies over my auditory canals. Joy
I tried stealing other people’s drinks at Starbucks.
Not my cup of tea.
A very smart rat
https://i.imgur.com/qPHK4TN.mp4
My sleep pattern is now not only all over the place…but stuffed.
sarahs mum said:
My sleep pattern is now not only all over the place…but stuffed.
Welcone to the club.
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:
My sleep pattern is now not only all over the place…but stuffed.
Welcone to the club.
I was okay about being tired at 11. I was miffed about being awake at 12.30. Laid awake for ages. I’ve had about three hours sleep.
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:
My sleep pattern is now not only all over the place…but stuffed.
Welcone to the club.
I was okay about being tired at 11. I was miffed about being awake at 12.30. Laid awake for ages. I’ve had about three hours sleep.
Same same.
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:Welcone to the club.
I was okay about being tired at 11. I was miffed about being awake at 12.30. Laid awake for ages. I’ve had about three hours sleep.
Same same.
May as well coffee.
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:I was okay about being tired at 11. I was miffed about being awake at 12.30. Laid awake for ages. I’ve had about three hours sleep.
Same same.
May as well coffee.
On my second cup.
Facebook Just Labeled the Boogaloos a ‘Dangerous Organization’ and Banned 500 Groups and Pages
The large network of the anti-government movement, deemed a national security threat, has exploded on the platform since February.
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/v7g7k9/facebook-just-labeled-the-boogaloos-a-dangerous-organization-and-banned-500-groups-and-pages?utm_source=vicenewsfacebook
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:
sarahs mum said:
My sleep pattern is now not only all over the place…but stuffed.
Welcone to the club.
I was okay about being tired at 11. I was miffed about being awake at 12.30. Laid awake for ages. I’ve had about three hours sleep.
:(
I had a good solid 7.5 hours. Now about to scoff a scrambled egg breakfast.
Doing some art and music today but at some stage there’ll be a two hour electricity outage while they upgrade the meter.
Bubblecar said:
sarahs mum said:
roughbarked said:Welcone to the club.
I was okay about being tired at 11. I was miffed about being awake at 12.30. Laid awake for ages. I’ve had about three hours sleep.
:(
I had a good solid 7.5 hours. Now about to scoff a scrambled egg breakfast.
Doing some art and music today but at some stage there’ll be a two hour electricity outage while they upgrade the meter.
They’ll be jackhammering concrete bridges for weeks here. I should probably go bush.
Good morning Holidayers. Two degrees at the moment and getting light. We are forecast 16 with showers increasing and windy. It’s not windy at the moment, but it was yesterday, gusting up round the 60s.
My plans for today include some rearranging in the Big Shed/Garage. Now the red car has gone (it’s already on the car lot in Hamilton) there is more room in there despite the “stuff” that I haven’t sorted yet and the “stuff” that is going to different homes. Portable aircon and rolled big rug for a friend. A “selection” of electrical stuff for the sheltered workshop (where they strip things down for components). They are closed for the duration. I might do a bit more weeding, depending on how the “showers” part of the forecast pans out.
sibeen said:
JudgeMental said:
Witty Rejoinder said:I reckon that is an unrealistic portrayal of Trump’s relationship with Barron.
that would have been deleted if posted on the SSSF FB page.
Why?
We have started to get more trump and 5G meme crap in good threads. executive decision to delete them. some are allowed if they are genuinely funny or relevant to the topic. most are just repeats of ones you’ve seen a thousand times.
sibeen said:
About bloody time: is cinema finally going with the flow of period sex?https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/jun/30/about-bloody-time-is-cinema-finally-going-with-the-flow-of-period-sex
You have to give the sub editor some dibs for that headline with that article.
As click-bait goes, it was pretty effective.
At least in one case.
dv said:
hey poindexter what is that piece of music that sounds a bit like the Alfred Hitchcock theme but a bit more upbeat?
For those who were playing at home:
The answer is most surprising: The Sorcerer’s Apprentice, by Paul Dukas, 1897.
An adapted version was included in the soundtrack of the Disney film Fantasia in 1940.