Sorry I’m late.
I’ll start with a query. We heard all about how the tracing app got used when they used it with the first person. I’ve seen nothing further about its usefulness. And nothing on how many downloads it is up to.
Ah, found this from a week ago.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/24/how-did-the-covidsafe-app-go-from-being-vital-to-almost-irrelevant
Rofl.
I just misread the thread title as Coronavirus Jane.
buffy said:
Sorry I’m late.I’ll start with a query. We heard all about how the tracing app got used when they used it with the first person. I’ve seen nothing further about its usefulness. And nothing on how many downloads it is up to.
Last I read on uploads was 6.1 million.
No further information on it’s usefulness, sorry.
sarahs mum said:
Rofl.I just misread the thread title as Coronavirus Jane.
I bet Doris Day could still sing about it.
Michael V said:
buffy said:
Sorry I’m late.I’ll start with a query. We heard all about how the tracing app got used when they used it with the first person. I’ve seen nothing further about its usefulness. And nothing on how many downloads it is up to.
Last I read on uploads was 6.1 million.
No further information on it’s usefulness, sorry.
probably because in all honesty it isn’t… but that’s our opinion
sarahs mum said:
Rofl.I just misread the thread title as Coronavirus Jane.
Ha!
And after the “Mary” mixup…
And it seems they are still mucking about with it:
https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2020/05/apple-google-update-covidsafe-contact-tracing/
Has anyone worked out the Singapore conundrum yet?
sibeen said:
Has anyone worked out the Singapore conundrum yet?
Ask moll – he’ll likely say they have the highly infections but mild strain…
sibeen said:
migrants
Has anyone worked out the Singapore conundrum yet?
And this:
https://which-50.com/cover-story-six-million-downloads-later-only-one-contact-traced/
Most of the stuff you get on a news Google search for “COVIDsafe” is older than those links I’ve put up.
sibeen said:
Has anyone worked out the Singapore conundrum yet?
Yes.
Michael V said:
buffy said:
Sorry I’m late.I’ll start with a query. We heard all about how the tracing app got used when they used it with the first person. I’ve seen nothing further about its usefulness. And nothing on how many downloads it is up to.
Last I read on uploads was 6.1 million.
No further information on it’s usefulness, sorry.
There’s currently five known active cases in Qld, with no new cases for the last three days. So… not a great chance for the app to be utilised.
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
Has anyone worked out the Singapore conundrum yet?
Ask moll – he’ll likely say they have the highly infections but mild strain…
The “Singapore conundrum”? Oh I see, huge number of cases and no deaths.
No more deadly than a common cold. All the recorded deaths would be people who were already dying from some other disease before they caught coronavirus.
Could be a completely different coronavirus. Good idea to market it as a live vaccine.
News reports are now saying that the man who died in Blackwater did not have COVID-19.
mollwollfumble said:
Michael V said:
sibeen said:
Has anyone worked out the Singapore conundrum yet?
Ask moll – he’ll likely say they have the highly infections but mild strain…
The “Singapore conundrum”? Oh I see, huge number of cases and no deaths.
No more deadly than a common cold. All the recorded deaths would be people who were already dying from some other disease before they caught coronavirus.
Could be a completely different coronavirus. Good idea to market it as a live vaccine.
Perfect, David Jones.
https://www.nature.com/articles/36467
Speedy said:
News reports are now saying that the man who died in Blackwater did not have COVID-19.
False positive?
(IIRC ~ 30%.)
Speedy said:
News reports are now saying that the man who died in Blackwater did not have COVID-19.
That is probably good new.
(I mean not the man’s death itself of course)
Speedy said:
News reports are now saying that the man who died in Blackwater did not have COVID-19.
Hmm, yes, I read that a few days ago. CONSPIRACY
Speedy said:
News reports are now saying that the man who died in Blackwater did not have COVID-19.
¿ref
Silly me. I only just found out why there’s no COVID-18. Do you know?
SCIENCE said:
Speedy said:
News reports are now saying that the man who died in Blackwater did not have COVID-19.
¿ref
7 news
poikilotherm said:
SCIENCE said:
Speedy said:
News reports are now saying that the man who died in Blackwater did not have COVID-19.
¿ref
7 news
well we were all wondering where tf it came from so yes we suppose it would make much more sense if it were some other cross reacting cov (of which we know there are many, common cold kind of thing)
mollwollfumble said:
Silly me. I only just found out why there’s no COVID-18. Do you know?
Yes.
mollwollfumble said:
Silly me. I only just found out why there’s no COVID-18. Do you know?
Does it blow your mind to discover that the name of the virus is pronounced sars co vee two rather than sars cov two?
esselte said:
mollwollfumble said:
Silly me. I only just found out why there’s no COVID-18. Do you know?
Does it blow your mind to discover that the name of the virus is pronounced sars co vee two rather than sars cov two?
Pronunciation depends on where in the world you live…
Michael V said:
mollwollfumble said:
Silly me. I only just found out why there’s no COVID-18. Do you know?
Yes.
Good.
> Does it blow your mind to discover that the name of the virus is pronounced sars co vee two rather than sars cov two?
No. That’s what I expected.
esselte said:
mollwollfumble said:
Silly me. I only just found out why there’s no COVID-18. Do you know?
Does it blow your mind to discover that the name of the virus is pronounced sars co vee two rather than sars cov two?
No.
Everything ever that is supposed to blow my mind has turned out to be rather underwhelming.
SCIENCE said:
Speedy said:
News reports are now saying that the man who died in Blackwater did not have COVID-19.
¿ref
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/coronavirus-australia-coroners-report-finds-nathan-turner-did-not-have-covid19/news-story/347ee7a2dc69edc716aa8953dc8cc24a
Michael V said:
esselte said:
mollwollfumble said:
Silly me. I only just found out why there’s no COVID-18. Do you know?
Does it blow your mind to discover that the name of the virus is pronounced sars co vee two rather than sars cov two?
Pronunciation depends on where in the world you live…
OK, so if not “pronounciation” what would be the correct word or phrase for me to use here?
“Proper locution” maybe?I thought my David Jones comment would have brought a few wry smiles. Was I the only dedicated reader of the Daedalus column in Nature?
Michael V said:
I thought my David Jones comment would have brought a few wry smiles. Was I the only dedicated reader of the Daedalus column in Nature?
I’d no idea that column existed, until I read your comment.
esselte said:
Michael V said:
esselte said:Does it blow your mind to discover that the name of the virus is pronounced sars co vee two rather than sars cov two?
Pronunciation depends on where in the world you live…
OK, so if not “pronounciation” what would be the correct word or phrase for me to use here?
“Proper locution” maybe?
“prescriptivist”
esselte said:
Michael V said:
esselte said:Does it blow your mind to discover that the name of the virus is pronounced sars co vee two rather than sars cov two?
Pronunciation depends on where in the world you live…
OK, so if not “pronounciation” what would be the correct word or phrase for me to use here?
“Proper locution” maybe?
Nah. What I’m suggesting is that “sars co vee two” pronunciation is the USAsian version. The other is the Australian version. Both are correct in context.
poikilotherm said:
Michael V said:
I thought my David Jones comment would have brought a few wry smiles. Was I the only dedicated reader of the Daedalus column in Nature?
I’d no idea that column existed, until I read your comment.
^
Just trivially, around the turn of the millennium when SSSF was Strong we used to download every single Nature news article but after a few years it all got too much, still have the old ones archived though
Michael V said:
esselte said:
Michael V said:Pronunciation depends on where in the world you live…
OK, so if not “pronounciation” what would be the correct word or phrase for me to use here?
“Proper locution” maybe?Nah. What I’m suggesting is that “sars co vee two” pronunciation is the USAsian version. The other is the Australian version. Both are correct in context.
how about “sar skovz” just to be lazy
poikilotherm said:
Michael V said:
I thought my David Jones comment would have brought a few wry smiles. Was I the only dedicated reader of the Daedalus column in Nature?
I’d no idea that column existed, until I read your comment.
Oh.
mollwollfumble said:
Silly me. I only just found out why there’s no COVID-18. Do you know?
Because no-one checked the mutations in 2018.
;)
buffy said:
mollwollfumble said:
Silly me. I only just found out why there’s no COVID-18. Do you know?
Because no-one checked the mutations in 2018.
;)
probably true
SCIENCE said:
buffy said:
mollwollfumble said:
Silly me. I only just found out why there’s no COVID-18. Do you know?
Because no-one checked the mutations in 2018.
;)
probably true
along slightly similar direction, we know it’s the done and sexy thing to shit talk West Taiwan and all, but more interesting stuff here
https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/wildlife-markets-are-the-tip-of-the-iceberg-and-not-just-in-china-20200529-p54xks.html
SCIENCE said:
esselte said:
Michael V said:Pronunciation depends on where in the world you live…
OK, so if not “pronunciation” what would be the correct word or phrase for me to use here?
“Proper locution” maybe?“prescriptivist”
But it would be a prescriptivist pronunciation that I’m advocating, wouldn’t it?
esselte said:
SCIENCE said:
esselte said:OK, so if not “pronunciation” what would be the correct word or phrase for me to use here?
“Proper locution” maybe?“prescriptivist”
But it would be a prescriptivist pronunciation that I’m advocating, wouldn’t it?
nah we’re cool with however people like to pronounce things, as long as they can get the message across
Michael V said:
poikilotherm said:
Michael V said:
I thought my David Jones comment would have brought a few wry smiles. Was I the only dedicated reader of the Daedalus column in Nature?
I’d no idea that column existed, until I read your comment.
Oh.
I can never forgive him for deserting New Scientist and moving the that American so-called science journal.
SCIENCE said:
esselte said:
SCIENCE said:“prescriptivist”
But it would be a prescriptivist pronunciation that I’m advocating, wouldn’t it?
nah we’re cool with however people like to pronounce things, as long as they can get the message across
Fair enough, you’re the skyentist! :)
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:
poikilotherm said:I’d no idea that column existed, until I read your comment.
Oh.
I can never forgive him for deserting New Scientist and moving the that American so-called science journal.
we used to download the SciAm and NeSci articles as well
SCIENCE said:
esselte said:
SCIENCE said:“prescriptivist”
But it would be a prescriptivist pronunciation that I’m advocating, wouldn’t it?
nah we’re cool with however people like to pronounce things, as long as they can get the message across
^ This.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:
poikilotherm said:I’d no idea that column existed, until I read your comment.
Oh.
I can never forgive him for deserting New Scientist and moving the that American so-called science journal.
I had no idea that he did this. I thought Jones only wrote for Nature,
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Michael V said:Oh.
I can never forgive him for deserting New Scientist and moving the that American so-called science journal.
I had no idea that he did this. I thought Jones only wrote for Nature,
Must say I have never been a regular reader of either.
party_pants said:
Michael V said:
The Rev Dodgson said:I can never forgive him for deserting New Scientist and moving the that American so-called science journal.
I had no idea that he did this. I thought Jones only wrote for Nature,
Must say I have never been a regular reader of either.
Ah well.
aaand here it is
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-01/coronavirus-queensland-nathan-turner-no-covid-blackwater-autopsy/12307546
Queensland Health has confirmed further tests show 30-year-old Nathan Turner did not have coronavirus before he died last week. Two tests were conducted after Mr Turner’s death with both a positive and a negative result
The results decrease Queensland’s death total down from seven to six
The Emerald miner’s cause of death is yet to be established
—
could be asphyxiation by law enforcement
SCIENCE said:
aaand here it ishttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-01/coronavirus-queensland-nathan-turner-no-covid-blackwater-autopsy/12307546
Queensland Health has confirmed further tests show 30-year-old Nathan Turner did not have coronavirus before he died last week. Two tests were conducted after Mr Turner’s death with both a positive and a negative result
The results decrease Queensland’s death total down from seven to six
The Emerald miner’s cause of death is yet to be established
—
could be asphyxiation by law enforcement
We all get that.
party_pants said:
esselte said:
mollwollfumble said:
Silly me. I only just found out why there’s no COVID-18. Do you know?
Does it blow your mind to discover that the name of the virus is pronounced sars co vee two rather than sars cov two?
No.
Everything ever that is supposed to blow my mind has turned out to be rather underwhelming.
Try this one then. Blow your mind?
The earliest a COVID-19 vaccine could have been produced was the year 1949.
> Singapore conundrum
I admit to being stumped by this one. I can see three possible explanations, none of them terribly likely.
Speedy alluded to it last night, now ABC runs the story…
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-01/coronavirus-queensland-nathan-turner-no-covid-blackwater-autopsy/12307546
Divine Angel said:
Speedy alluded to it last night, now ABC runs the story…
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-01/coronavirus-queensland-nathan-turner-no-covid-blackwater-autopsy/12307546
And the community gets outraged on social media, and pollies jump on the bandwagon, demanding apologies etc. Sheesh, they could be living in the USA, or Brazil, or the UK…
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-02/coronavirus-queensland-nathan-turner-false-positive-blackwater/12308080
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Speedy alluded to it last night, now ABC runs the story…
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-01/coronavirus-queensland-nathan-turner-no-covid-blackwater-autopsy/12307546
And the community gets outraged on social media, and pollies jump on the bandwagon, demanding apologies etc. Sheesh, they could be living in the USA, or Brazil, or the UK…
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-02/coronavirus-queensland-nathan-turner-false-positive-blackwater/12308080
It is Queensland. Get used to it.
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:
Divine Angel said:
Speedy alluded to it last night, now ABC runs the story…
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-01/coronavirus-queensland-nathan-turner-no-covid-blackwater-autopsy/12307546
And the community gets outraged on social media, and pollies jump on the bandwagon, demanding apologies etc. Sheesh, they could be living in the USA, or Brazil, or the UK…
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-02/coronavirus-queensland-nathan-turner-false-positive-blackwater/12308080
It is Queensland. Get used to it.
Hah! Someone at the ABC must be watching this forum. This is what I asked last night…
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-02/coronavirus-covid19-covidsafe-app-how-many-downloads-greg-hunt/12295130
Divine Angel said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:And the community gets outraged on social media, and pollies jump on the bandwagon, demanding apologies etc. Sheesh, they could be living in the USA, or Brazil, or the UK…
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-02/coronavirus-queensland-nathan-turner-false-positive-blackwater/12308080
It is Queensland. Get used to it.
What’s that supposed to mean?
Divine Angel said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:And the community gets outraged on social media, and pollies jump on the bandwagon, demanding apologies etc. Sheesh, they could be living in the USA, or Brazil, or the UK…
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-02/coronavirus-queensland-nathan-turner-false-positive-blackwater/12308080
It is Queensland. Get used to it.
What’s that supposed to mean?
You have lived there long enough. How many vote for Pauline?
roughbarked said:
Divine Angel said:
roughbarked said:It is Queensland. Get used to it.
What’s that supposed to mean?
You have lived there long enough. How many vote for Pauline?
roughbarked said:
Divine Angel said:
roughbarked said:It is Queensland. Get used to it.
What’s that supposed to mean?
You have lived there long enough. How many vote for Pauline?
Sorry, you’ve lost me. How does voting for Pauline correlate to Qld Health screwing up a COVID diagnosis?
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
Divine Angel said:What’s that supposed to mean?
You have lived there long enough. How many vote for Pauline?
At least it’s not the SUSSR of Victoria.
:)
Divine Angel said:
roughbarked said:
Divine Angel said:What’s that supposed to mean?
You have lived there long enough. How many vote for Pauline?
Sorry, you’ve lost me. How does voting for Pauline correlate to Qld Health screwing up a COVID diagnosis?
You are on the different track. I was referring to the outrage.
Oh dear, the incidence of flu in Australia is on the rise. (-;
mollwollfumble said:
Oh dear, the incidence of flu in Australia is on the rise. (-;
Shouldn’t have relaxed social distancing.
buffy said:
Hah! Someone at the ABC must be watching this forum. This is what I asked last night…https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-02/coronavirus-covid19-covidsafe-app-how-many-downloads-greg-hunt/12295130
Onya!
buffy said:
Hah! Someone at the ABC must be watching this forum. This is what I asked last night…https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-02/coronavirus-covid19-covidsafe-app-how-many-downloads-greg-hunt/12295130
so, useful after the fact, nice
Divine Angel said:
roughbarked said:
Michael V said:And the community gets outraged on social media, and pollies jump on the bandwagon, demanding apologies etc. Sheesh, they could be living in the USA, or Brazil, or the UK…
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-02/coronavirus-queensland-nathan-turner-false-positive-blackwater/12308080
It is Queensland. Get used to it.
What’s that supposed to mean?
it means there are often reposts within 10 posts and several hours
Seriously though WTF is going on with VIC, at a time when the rest of the country is acting like this shit is under control, they’re still on fire,
https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-02/coronavirus-cases-rise-by-10-kindergarten-aged-care-in-lockdown/12310464
we mean they have a higher population density than any other state but still, WTF¿
At least one in five RT PCR tests showing someone doesn’t have SARS-CoV-2 are actually incorrect, according to new analysis. This high false negative rate shows it may not be very reliable at ruling out whether someone is infected.
https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/healthreport/high-false-negative-rate-in-coronavirus-testing/12301372
And yet the authorities have to apologise when a test is wrong, apparently. Maybe all those jokers demanding that apology kind of thing can go back to their school teachers and apologise for every mistake they made in every assessment task ¿
More seriously though they haven’t really dug into the implications in the chatter despite mentioning it; at the end of the day we seem to have done all right here even with the challenges.
then they executed the civilian diversion, and meanwhile, they quietly arrested the decline
India still playing the quadratic keys
SCIENCE said:
At least one in five RT PCR tests showing someone doesn’t have SARS-CoV-2 are actually incorrect, according to new analysis. This high false negative rate shows it may not be very reliable at ruling out whether someone is infected.https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/healthreport/high-false-negative-rate-in-coronavirus-testing/12301372
And yet the authorities have to apologise when a test is wrong, apparently. Maybe all those jokers demanding that apology kind of thing can go back to their school teachers and apologise for every mistake they made in every assessment task ¿
More seriously though they haven’t really dug into the implications in the chatter despite mentioning it; at the end of the day we seem to have done all right here even with the challenges.
Thanks for that.
SCIENCE said:
Illustrates how coronavirus activity is strongly affected by the day of the week.
mollwollfumble said:
SCIENCE said:
At least one in five RT PCR tests showing someone doesn’t have SARS-CoV-2 are actually incorrect, according to new analysis. This high false negative rate shows it may not be very reliable at ruling out whether someone is infected.https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/healthreport/high-false-negative-rate-in-coronavirus-testing/12301372
And yet the authorities have to apologise when a test is wrong, apparently. Maybe all those jokers demanding that apology kind of thing can go back to their school teachers and apologise for every mistake they made in every assessment task ¿
More seriously though they haven’t really dug into the implications in the chatter despite mentioning it; at the end of the day we seem to have done all right here even with the challenges.
Thanks for that.
SCIENCE said:
Illustrates how coronavirus activity is strongly affected by the day of the week.
So it takes the weekends off?
roughbarked said:
mollwollfumble said:
SCIENCE said:
At least one in five RT PCR tests showing someone doesn’t have SARS-CoV-2 are actually incorrect, according to new analysis. This high false negative rate shows it may not be very reliable at ruling out whether someone is infected.https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/healthreport/high-false-negative-rate-in-coronavirus-testing/12301372
And yet the authorities have to apologise when a test is wrong, apparently. Maybe all those jokers demanding that apology kind of thing can go back to their school teachers and apologise for every mistake they made in every assessment task ¿
More seriously though they haven’t really dug into the implications in the chatter despite mentioning it; at the end of the day we seem to have done all right here even with the challenges.
Thanks for that.
SCIENCE said:
Illustrates how coronavirus activity is strongly affected by the day of the week.
So it takes the weekends off?
Yes. According to the data from quite a few countries.
I can’t help wondering if there are illegal bootleg COVID-19 vaccines out there.
mollwollfumble said:
roughbarked said:
mollwollfumble said:Illustrates how coronavirus activity is strongly affected by the day of the week.
So it takes the weekends off?
Yes. According to the data from quite a few countries.
I can’t help wondering if there are illegal bootleg COVID-19 vaccines out there.
You name it and someone will attempt to bootleg it.
we heard others in the family and we heard about the health system apology but remember how mistakes do happen and false positives are part of normal for any test
—
Father of man thought to have died from COVID-19 backs Queensland Health response
The father of a man who died in the Central Queensland town of Blackwater last week has backed Queensland Health’s response to his son initially testing positive to COVID-19.
Nathan Turner, 30, was found dead in his Blackwater home by his partner early last week.
He initially tested positive for COVID-19, triggering a rapid response. But it was later revealed that further testing confirmed Mr Turner did not have coronavirus just before he died.
His father Rodney Turner issued a statement on social media last night, saying he “completely understood” the reaction of Queensland Health and wanted the media to respect the family’s privacy.
“As a matter of public interest they had to take precautionary action based on the evidence they had before them,” he said.
“This is no longer a story of public concern. It is now time to leave Nathan’s fiancee, his family and friends, alone to grieve in private.”—
thank sensible calm heads
meanwhile we have the “our way is the best way, our way is the only way, modern technology and improvements have no way” crowd
“Voting while enjoying a sunny walk or whilst watching television does democracy an injustice … we ask members to vote in person for a reason: because it is the heart of what parliament is about,” House of Commons leader Jacob Rees-Mogg said.
Unless a better method can be found, every vote will now involve the long queues that critics dismissed as a farce, and some on Twitter dubbed the #ReesMoggConga.
as we have been, we probably should be concerned, indeed
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-03/coronavirus-commission-concerns-former-judge-royal-commissioner/12284458
She has particular concerns about the hand-picked body of business leaders and bureaucrats the Federal Government has set up to oversee the economic recovery from the crisis, known as the National COVID-19 Coordination Commission, or NCCC.
“I think it’s quite alarming,” Justice White told the ABC.
“There aren’t very many if any bodies that are funded by the government that are not required to be transparent, effective and accountable, yet we don’t have a work plan for this committee.
But, as the ABC has previously reported, it is overweight with people associated with the oil and gas industry.
Alongside Mr Power, there is Energy Australia managing director Catherine Tanna, who spent nearly her entire career in the oil and gas industry, and the man Mr Power brought in as special advisor to the commission, Andrew Liveris, director of the world’s largest oil and gas company, Saudi Aramco, deputy chair of Worley — the world’s biggest oil and gas consultancy — and until recently the global executive chairman of Dow Chemical.
“But it does look, by description, fairly narrow in its focus,” she continued.
“The core business of many of them is on the energy and manufacturing side. I see no overt representation of big industries in Australia — tourism, hospitality and the arts.
Justice White said she was “delighted” when it was announced, in early April, that a Senate select committee had been established to examine the Federal Government’s response to the COVID-19 pandemic.
But that delight turned to dismay when she read the transcripts of its hearings on the NCCC.
“I can only use one word,” she said. “Disappointing.”
SCIENCE said:
as we have been, we probably should be concerned, indeedhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-03/coronavirus-commission-concerns-former-judge-royal-commissioner/12284458
COVID-19 commission concerns
She has particular concerns about the hand-picked body of business leaders and bureaucrats the Federal Government has set up to oversee the economic recovery from the crisis, known as the National COVID-19 Coordination Commission, or NCCC.
“I think it’s quite alarming,” Justice White told the ABC.
“There aren’t very many if any bodies that are funded by the government that are not required to be transparent, effective and accountable, yet we don’t have a work plan for this committee.
But, as the ABC has previously reported, it is overweight with people associated with the oil and gas industry.
Alongside Mr Power, there is Energy Australia managing director Catherine Tanna, who spent nearly her entire career in the oil and gas industry, and the man Mr Power brought in as special advisor to the commission, Andrew Liveris, director of the world’s largest oil and gas company, Saudi Aramco, deputy chair of Worley — the world’s biggest oil and gas consultancy — and until recently the global executive chairman of Dow Chemical.
“But it does look, by description, fairly narrow in its focus,” she continued.
“The core business of many of them is on the energy and manufacturing side. I see no overt representation of big industries in Australia — tourism, hospitality and the arts.
Justice White said she was “delighted” when it was announced, in early April, that a Senate select committee had been established to examine the Federal Government’s response to the COVID-19 pandemic.
But that delight turned to dismay when she read the transcripts of its hearings on the NCCC.
“I can only use one word,” she said. “Disappointing.”
Did we expect anything different
SCIENCE said:
we heard others in the family and we heard about the health system apology but remember how mistakes do happen and false positives are part of normal for any test—
Father of man thought to have died from COVID-19 backs Queensland Health response
The father of a man who died in the Central Queensland town of Blackwater last week has backed Queensland Health’s response to his son initially testing positive to COVID-19.
Nathan Turner, 30, was found dead in his Blackwater home by his partner early last week.
He initially tested positive for COVID-19, triggering a rapid response. But it was later revealed that further testing confirmed Mr Turner did not have coronavirus just before he died.
His father Rodney Turner issued a statement on social media last night, saying he “completely understood” the reaction of Queensland Health and wanted the media to respect the family’s privacy.
“As a matter of public interest they had to take precautionary action based on the evidence they had before them,” he said.
“This is no longer a story of public concern. It is now time to leave Nathan’s fiancee, his family and friends, alone to grieve in private.”—
thank sensible calm heads
Nods.
Cymek said:
SCIENCE said:
as we have been, we probably should be concerned, indeedhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-03/coronavirus-commission-concerns-former-judge-royal-commissioner/12284458
COVID-19 commission concerns
She has particular concerns about the hand-picked body of business leaders and bureaucrats the Federal Government has set up to oversee the economic recovery from the crisis, known as the National COVID-19 Coordination Commission, or NCCC.
“I think it’s quite alarming,” Justice White told the ABC.
“There aren’t very many if any bodies that are funded by the government that are not required to be transparent, effective and accountable, yet we don’t have a work plan for this committee.
But, as the ABC has previously reported, it is overweight with people associated with the oil and gas industry.
Alongside Mr Power, there is Energy Australia managing director Catherine Tanna, who spent nearly her entire career in the oil and gas industry, and the man Mr Power brought in as special advisor to the commission, Andrew Liveris, director of the world’s largest oil and gas company, Saudi Aramco, deputy chair of Worley — the world’s biggest oil and gas consultancy — and until recently the global executive chairman of Dow Chemical.
“But it does look, by description, fairly narrow in its focus,” she continued.
“The core business of many of them is on the energy and manufacturing side. I see no overt representation of big industries in Australia — tourism, hospitality and the arts.
Justice White said she was “delighted” when it was announced, in early April, that a Senate select committee had been established to examine the Federal Government’s response to the COVID-19 pandemic.
But that delight turned to dismay when she read the transcripts of its hearings on the NCCC.
“I can only use one word,” she said. “Disappointing.”
Did we expect anything different
no but we didn’t vote for the blastopores
Cymek said:
SCIENCE said:
as we have been, we probably should be concerned, indeedhttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-03/coronavirus-commission-concerns-former-judge-royal-commissioner/12284458
COVID-19 commission concerns
She has particular concerns about the hand-picked body of business leaders and bureaucrats the Federal Government has set up to oversee the economic recovery from the crisis, known as the National COVID-19 Coordination Commission, or NCCC.
“I think it’s quite alarming,” Justice White told the ABC.
“There aren’t very many if any bodies that are funded by the government that are not required to be transparent, effective and accountable, yet we don’t have a work plan for this committee.
But, as the ABC has previously reported, it is overweight with people associated with the oil and gas industry.
Alongside Mr Power, there is Energy Australia managing director Catherine Tanna, who spent nearly her entire career in the oil and gas industry, and the man Mr Power brought in as special advisor to the commission, Andrew Liveris, director of the world’s largest oil and gas company, Saudi Aramco, deputy chair of Worley — the world’s biggest oil and gas consultancy — and until recently the global executive chairman of Dow Chemical.
“But it does look, by description, fairly narrow in its focus,” she continued.
“The core business of many of them is on the energy and manufacturing side. I see no overt representation of big industries in Australia — tourism, hospitality and the arts.
Justice White said she was “delighted” when it was announced, in early April, that a Senate select committee had been established to examine the Federal Government’s response to the COVID-19 pandemic.
But that delight turned to dismay when she read the transcripts of its hearings on the NCCC.
“I can only use one word,” she said. “Disappointing.”
Did we expect anything different
We have seen them do this before with the barrier reef thing.
The syndrome resembles a childhood illness called Kawasaki disease
As the COVID-19 pandemic spreads, reports of new and unusual symptoms are on the rise. The latest side effects of a novel coronavirus infection range from nerve damage to “COVID toe.” In rare cases, COVID-19 seems to cause severe inflammation in children.
Scientists are racing to better understand what causes the condition, called “multisystem inflammatory syndrome in children,” or MIS-C, Jennifer Couzin-Frankel reports for Science magazine. The children present fevers, stomach pain, rashes and heart problems—or, as 14-year-old Jack McMorrow told the New York Times’ Pam Belluck, a pain “almost like someone injected you with straight-up fire.”
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/what-you-should-know-about-rare-covid-19-inflammation-syndrome-180974995/
we know masks are only sexy in the bedroom and it’s not sexy to talk about the evidence supporting them but hey
https://newsroom.unsw.edu.au/news/health/covid-19-how-much-do-social-distancing-and-masks-reduce-risk
“The research in The Lancet shows that risk can be further reduced by the use of facemasks,” continues Professor MacIntyre. Chu and colleagues reported that masks and respirators reduced the risk of infection by 85%, and face masks were equally effective when used in the community and in healthcare settings, even well designed 12-layered cloth masks.
SCIENCE said:
we know masks are only sexy in the bedroom and it’s not sexy to talk about the evidence supporting them but heyhttps://newsroom.unsw.edu.au/news/health/covid-19-how-much-do-social-distancing-and-masks-reduce-risk
“The research in The Lancet shows that risk can be further reduced by the use of facemasks,” continues Professor MacIntyre. Chu and colleagues reported that masks and respirators reduced the risk of infection by 85%, and face masks were equally effective when used in the community and in healthcare settings, even well designed 12-layered cloth masks.
“When you are out and about, you cannot tell who is infected and who is not. You yourself may be infected and not know it. Especially with the growing evidence of pre-symptomatic and asymptomatic transmission, universal face mask use is an important way to reduce the spread of infection.
“This is particularly important in regions with high incidence of COVID-19. However, in countries with low prevalence, like Australia, where we have had incredible success containing the virus, face mask use is not mandated and not yet widely recommended, except for on public transport. It may be a consideration in the future as we begin to see a return to crowded public settings, or look at the feasibility of large public gatherings around Christmas and New Year.”
they reckon if there were a few more toilet paper hoarders then we wouldn’t have official technical defined récession
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After a relatively mild 0.3 per cent contraction in the three months to the end of March, the economy is now poised for a dramatic plunge this quarter. And, according to the textbooks, a recession is defined as two consecutive quarters of contraction or, for those who like to sugar-coat the pain, “negative growth”.
But what if, through some statistical anomaly, the numbers somehow had managed to remain in positive territory for the March quarter and all the heartache, insecurity and angst was loaded into the June quarter alone, where the economy is on track to shrink by a frightening 8.5 per cent.
Picture of coronaviruses attacking a human cell.
Looks as though Brazil has solidly overtaken the US in terms of daily new cases and daily deaths.
And now the bad news.
USA had 20,000 new cases yesterday. The rate of decline is very slow, for example the day with fewest new cases was way back on May 11.
Brazil still has the second highest number of cases in the world. Two bad days in Brazil. Until two days ago it looked as if new cases and new deaths were peaking. There’s a strong weekly cycle, so you can only compare with the same day of the week last week.
Tues and Wed this week were the worst ever for both new cases and deaths in Brazil. We’ll have to wait until Thu & Fri to see how bad. Brazil is the only country in the top six where the number of new cases is still rising. 30,100 new cases in one day on May 30.
(Russia passed peak deaths per day on May 29.)
India at number 7 is still in the very early quadratic growth phase. 9,600 new cases yesterday.
Peru at number 9 has just passed peak new cases, fingers crossed. May 31 was a really bad day for new cases in Peru, with 8,800 new cases in one day.
Iran is the country with a first peak in new cases that recovered but then went into a second rise in new cases. But the number of deaths per day hasn’t risen much with the new rise in cases. 3,100 new cases on June 3.
Chile a spike in number of deaths per day. Number of new cases per day may be (we hope) approaching peak. 5,470 new cases on June 1.
Mexico new cases sill rising at 3,890 on Jun 3.
Pakistan not looking good at all, with recent jumps in number of new cases and new deaths. 4,065 new cases on June 3. I can’t even hazard a guess at how bad it will get there. Thankfully it only has a low mortality rate.
Bangladesh still a quadratic growth in cases, but low mortality rate. 2,900 new cases on June 2.
Worldwide new cases are accelerating upward. Nowhere near peak yet.
Kaloo kalay they’ve brought back the 7 day smoother curve!
dv said:
Looks as though Brazil has solidly overtaken the US in terms of daily new cases and daily deaths.
Except at weekends/mondays
The Rev Dodgson said:
dv said:
Looks as though Brazil has solidly overtaken the US in terms of daily new cases and daily deaths.
Except at weekends/mondays
Probably about a tie, over the week
dv said:
Looks as though Brazil has solidly overtaken the US in terms of daily new cases and daily deaths.
In a rain forest, on the darkly mottled wet floor, there are shoots of small trees that can see the sunlit upland in the canopy but never reach it.
Unless……….unless there is a cyclone or a catastrophic storm the blows over the large old trees that are keeping the young shoots repressed and in their shadow, once the young shoots fell the full sunlight they begin to grow, upward they grow to new heights to the fulfilment of their true potential.
dv said:
Kaloo kalay they’ve brought back the 7 day smoother curve!
Good. Not for most countries yet.
dv said:
Kaloo kalay they’ve brought back the 7 day smoother curve!
Excellent!
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
Looks as though Brazil has solidly overtaken the US in terms of daily new cases and daily deaths.
In a rain forest, on the darkly mottled wet floor, there are shoots of small trees that can see the sunlit upland in the canopy but never reach it.
Unless……….unless there is a cyclone or a catastrophic storm the blows over the large old trees that are keeping the young shoots repressed and in their shadow, once the young shoots fell the full sunlight they begin to grow, upward they grow to new heights to the fulfilment of their true potential.
Well that’s not my view.
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
Looks as though Brazil has solidly overtaken the US in terms of daily new cases and daily deaths.
In a rain forest, on the darkly mottled wet floor, there are shoots of small trees that can see the sunlit upland in the canopy but never reach it.
Unless……….unless there is a cyclone or a catastrophic storm the blows over the large old trees that are keeping the young shoots repressed and in their shadow, once the young shoots fell the full sunlight they begin to grow, upward they grow to new heights to the fulfilment of their true potential.
dv said:
Peak Warming Man said:
dv said:
Looks as though Brazil has solidly overtaken the US in terms of daily new cases and daily deaths.
In a rain forest, on the darkly mottled wet floor, there are shoots of small trees that can see the sunlit upland in the canopy but never reach it.
Unless……….unless there is a cyclone or a catastrophic storm the blows over the large old trees that are keeping the young shoots repressed and in their shadow, once the young shoots fell the full sunlight they begin to grow, upward they grow to new heights to the fulfilment of their true potential.
Well that’s not my view.
and is it disproportionately killing off the rich fks basking in it anyway ¿
Aaaaaaaaand while we were all distracted by the USSA CompassionateUseOfForce HeavenlyPeaceGate celebrations,
Wuhan tests 10 million residents in 19 days
The Chinese city of Wuhan, where the coronavirus was first detected late last year, tested nearly 10 million people in 19 days during its unprecedented campaign to check an entire city.
It identified just 300 positive cases, all of whom had no symptoms. The city found no infections among 1,174 close contacts of the people who tested positive, suggesting they were not spreading the virus easily to others.
“It not only makes the people of Wuhan feel at ease, it also increases people’s confidence in all of China,” said Feng Zijian, vice director of China’s Center for Disease Control and Prevention.
There is no definitive answer yet on the level of risk posed by asymptomatic cases, with anecdotal evidence and studies to date producing conflicting answers.
Wuhan was by far the hardest-hit city in China, accounting for more than 80 per cent of the country’s deaths, according to government figures.
A city official announced on Tuesday that the city had completed 9.9 million tests from May 14 to June 1.
If those tested previously are included, virtually everyone above the age of five has been tested, said Li Lanjuan, a member of a National Health Commission expert team.
“The city of Wuhan is safe,” she said.
The campaign was launched after a small cluster of cases was found in a residential compound, sparking concern about a possible second wave of infections as Wuhan emerged from a two-and-a-half-month lockdown.
Study Confirms What Statistics Were Showing
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-04/asymptomatic-coronavirus-covid-19-infection/12317254
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-04/coronavirus-led-to-sydney-man-meeting-90-neighbours/12308918
d’n‘o’ what they all say about fragmentation of society but seriously we have had street parties long before COVID-19
Look we all know how guns don’t kill people, people kill people, but just look at West Taiwan and we’re sure we can all agree it’s actually opening schools that kills people,
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-10-26/children-attacked-with-knife-at-chinese-kindergarden/10434594
it’s a tragedy we tell you. Almost 20 children were killed in school attacks in 2010, prompting a response from top government officials and leading many schools to add gates and security guards. Another authoritarian government abusing it’s citizens and restricting their FREEDOMS.
Meanwhile in the UK, the government have decided to abandon the virtual parliament they had going and make all MPs turn up in person in order to vote on legislation. Then a government minister became ill with Corona virus symptoms, and is now awaiting testing results. I hope he turns out to be negative, or else it is going to be a bad look having all MPs who were in the house needing to self isolate for 14 days because they have been in contact with a known case. Should have stuck with the virtual parliament.
party_pants said:
Meanwhile in the UK, the government have decided to abandon the virtual parliament they had going and make all MPs turn up in person in order to vote on legislation. Then a government minister became ill with Corona virus symptoms, and is now awaiting testing results. I hope he turns out to be negative, or else it is going to be a bad look having all MPs who were in the house needing to self isolate for 14 days because they have been in contact with a known case. Should have stuck with the virtual parliament.
You know that British parliament biulding, Palace of Westminster is a very outdated and unhealthy building.
They cant even all fit in properly and have to stand up, they don’t even have a seat to sit down…..
They need a bigger Palace.
Tau.Neutrino said:
party_pants said:
Meanwhile in the UK, the government have decided to abandon the virtual parliament they had going and make all MPs turn up in person in order to vote on legislation. Then a government minister became ill with Corona virus symptoms, and is now awaiting testing results. I hope he turns out to be negative, or else it is going to be a bad look having all MPs who were in the house needing to self isolate for 14 days because they have been in contact with a known case. Should have stuck with the virtual parliament.
You know that British parliament biulding, Palace of Westminster is a very outdated and unhealthy building.
They cant even all fit in properly and have to stand up, they don’t even have a seat to sit down…..
They need a bigger Palace.
Yes. I was the one who called it a crumbling Victorian folly a few weeks ago. The roof leaks, the walls are crumbling, it is riddled with asbestos. If it were not a scheduled building they’d just knock it down and build a new one. As it is, they have to restore it, which will take about 5 years at two or three times the cost.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-05/bulldogs-banned-from-training-terry-lamb-covid-breach/12324046
Good old USSA, exporting high grade -theocracy-democracy to its neighbours.
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Mexicans have gathered to pray to “Santa Muerte”, the Death Saint, despite coronavirus risks
Mexican authorities have dismissed mass testing as “useless” and expensive
Health authorities reported … more than twice the previous daily toll, and daily infections were also at an all-time high …
Mexico now has the seventh-deadliest COVID-19 outbreak worldwide, with 11,729 deaths, according to figures from Johns Hopkins University.
Nevertheless, President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador defended his handling of the crisis and Monday’s easing of social distancing and some restrictions on businesses, saying Mexico had it under control.
“We will continue like this, taking care of ourselves,” he said. “We won’t let our guard down.” They also have not let the National Guard in, to suppress civil unrest. “Let there not be psychosis, let there not be fear,” he said.
The latest figures were an embarrassment for officials, who had consistently predicted that cases in Mexico were about to start levelling off.
Mr Lopez Obrador was under pressure from the United States to reopen major sectors of the economy to reactivate supply chains underpinning billions of dollars of business.
That’s weird. The measles virus looks remarkably like coronavirus. Even to having the threefold symmetry with enlarged head on the spikes.
mollwollfumble said:
That’s weird. The measles virus looks remarkably like coronavirus. Even to having the threefold symmetry with enlarged head on the spikes.
dolphins, sharks, ichthyosaurs…
dv said:
Boris Johnson is just a puppet. Cummings is the real power behind the UK government right now. So of course he wouldn’t instruct the PM to sack himself.
mollwollfumble said:
That’s weird. The measles virus looks remarkably like coronavirus. Even to having the threefold symmetry with enlarged head on the spikes.
I think you will find many viruses look quite similar on electron microscopy. Most coronaviruses will look very similar. They were originally named for their appearance.
SCIENCE said:
Good old USSA, exporting high grade -theocracy-democracy to its neighbours.—
Mexicans have gathered to pray to “Santa Muerte”, the Death Saint, despite coronavirus risks
Mexican authorities have dismissed mass testing as “useless” and expensive
Health authorities reported … more than twice the previous daily toll, and daily infections were also at an all-time high …
Mexico now has the seventh-deadliest COVID-19 outbreak worldwide, with 11,729 deaths, according to figures from Johns Hopkins University.
Nevertheless, President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador defended his handling of the crisis and Monday’s easing of social distancing and some restrictions on businesses, saying Mexico had it under control.
“We will continue like this, taking care of ourselves,” he said. “We won’t let our guard down.” They also have not let the National Guard in, to suppress civil unrest. “Let there not be psychosis, let there not be fear,” he said.
The latest figures were an embarrassment for officials, who had consistently predicted that cases in Mexico were about to start levelling off.
Mr Lopez Obrador was under pressure from the United States to reopen major sectors of the economy to reactivate supply chains underpinning billions of dollars of business.
sigh
dv said:
mollwollfumble said:
That’s weird. The measles virus looks remarkably like coronavirus. Even to having the threefold symmetry with enlarged head on the spikes.
dolphins, sharks, ichthyosaurs…
and penguins, don’t forget penguins
SCIENCE said:
dv said:
mollwollfumble said:
That’s weird. The measles virus looks remarkably like coronavirus. Even to having the threefold symmetry with enlarged head on the spikes.
dolphins, sharks, ichthyosaurs…
and penguins, don’t forget penguins
Giant ones for The Elder Gods
sorry we meant “high grade theocracy “democracy”“ but yeah we blame the telephone
Days since the last reported case of COVID-19
NSW 0
VIC 0
WA 0
QLD 3
SA 9
TAS 20
ACT 32
NT 33
Last updated 13:56 PM AEST on Friday, June 5
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there you go, it’s better to live somewhere that they Isolate The State except WA, which is just bad
SCIENCE said:
Days since the last reported case of COVID-19
NSW 0
VIC 0
WA 0
QLD 3
SA 9
TAS 20
ACT 32
NT 33
Last updated 13:56 PM AEST on Friday, June 5—
there you go, it’s better to live somewhere that they Isolate The State except WA, which is just bad
We keep getting infected ships turning up here with more cases. All of the recent cases have been from ships, apart from one family recently arrived by plane who were already in quarantine when they fell ill.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-05/police-minister-calls-protesting-nuts-amid-coronavirus-pandemic/12324186
so what’s it going to be
is it, protest is a justification for anything one likes (unlikely)
or is it, you can protest as long as you follow other rules (would make sense)
But plenty of us have heard the notion being too clean can cause your immune system to stop working properly.
It’s thought this might result in conditions like autoimmune diseases and allergies.
So as we diligently wash and dissolve away the new coronavirus from our hands, could we also be wiping out a host of other microbes that we actually need to keep us healthy?
The notion that exposure to certain bacteria, fungi and other micro-organisms in our environment may be important in ‘training’ our immune systems is known as “the hygiene hypothesis”.
But evidence to support this idea is limited.
In any case, the bugs that seem to matter are mostly those from the gut of our mothers passed to us as babies, along with organisms from the natural environment, not the germs that cause serious infections.
Early research suggested infections in childhood were important, but later work showed this wasn’t the case.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-05/schoolies-week-to-go-ahead-on-gold-coast/12319598
who’s worried, we thought school aged humans were safe from COVID-19
ABC News:
Hobart’s exclusive Athenaeum Club gets coronavirus grants to ease the pain
“Restructuring the kitchen staffing and use of federal and state government support has enabled the club to maintain a strong financial position,” members have been told.
An exclusive members-only club in Hobart’s CBD that was formerly men-only is a recipient of taxpayer-funded coronavirus grants.
Key points:
The Athenaeum Club, billed as the city’s “finest private social club for business, professional and academic people”, has told members it was taxpayer support that helped it pull through the COVID-19 crisis.The club’s treasurer is Ed Boutchard, an adviser to Police Minister Mark Shelton.
Mr Boutchard’s letter to members credited, in part, “various Government initiatives” in helping the club achieve a surplus “even in the face of COVID-19”.
Set to be elected to the club’s five-person committee this year is Will Coats, an adviser to Liberal MLC Leonie Hiscutt and a Hobart City Council alderman.’
Move along, nothing to see here.
captain_spalding said:
ABC News:Hobart’s exclusive Athenaeum Club gets coronavirus grants to ease the pain
“Restructuring the kitchen staffing and use of federal and state government support has enabled the club to maintain a strong financial position,” members have been told.
An exclusive members-only club in Hobart’s CBD that was formerly men-only is a recipient of taxpayer-funded coronavirus grants.
The members-only club says it got federal and state government grants and relief during the coronavirus crisis Launceston business owner Adrian Barrett says his business and others like it have missed out Labor’s Shane Broad says some eligible businesses have not received the support they need
Key points:The Athenaeum Club, billed as the city’s “finest private social club for business, professional and academic people”, has told members it was taxpayer support that helped it pull through the COVID-19 crisis.The club’s treasurer is Ed Boutchard, an adviser to Police Minister Mark Shelton.
Mr Boutchard’s letter to members credited, in part, “various Government initiatives” in helping the club achieve a surplus “even in the face of COVID-19”.
Set to be elected to the club’s five-person committee this year is Will Coats, an adviser to Liberal MLC Leonie Hiscutt and a Hobart City Council alderman.’
Move along, nothing to see here.
you beauty, would you like to support a reef conservation foundation today ¿ special offer coming up
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-05/court-rules-sydney-black-lives-protest-unsafe-due-to-coronavirus/12324186
“The exercise of the fundamental right of assembly … is not taken away by the current public health order, it is deferred,” Justice Fagan said.
Thank you.
Compare the place where virus is still sneaking around, VIC.
Victoria Police will not fine people attending a Melbourne Black Lives Matter protest highlighting Aboriginal deaths in custody this weekend, but is warning the event poses a risk for coronavirus transmission.
Note they are still saying “leave it for later” but anyway. At a time when everyone supposedly works from home anyway*, surely an internet DDoS is more sensible than an IRLDoS.
*: yeah right, traffic was as horrible as it has ever been, today
SCIENCE said:
Compare the place where virus is still sneaking around, VIC.Victoria Police will not fine people attending a Melbourne Black Lives Matter protest highlighting Aboriginal deaths in custody this weekend, but is warning the event poses a risk for coronavirus transmission.
Note they are still saying “leave it for later” but anyway. At a time when everyone supposedly works from home anyway*, surely an internet DDoS is more sensible than an IRLDoS.
*: yeah right, traffic was as horrible as it has ever been, today
ABC news said they will fine the organizers. But we saw on the news a briefing the organizers were giving and I reckon they have covered themselves.
‘Don’t travel to Australia’: China warns citizens of racism
The Chinese Ministry of Culture and Tourism has issued a travel alert to its citizens warning them not to travel to Australia due to a “significant increase” in racist attacks on “Chinese and Asian people”.
The statement issued on Friday (local time) said the alleged attacks came in the aftermath of the coronavirus pandemic.
“Due to the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic, racial discrimination and violence against Chinese and Asian people in Australia have seen a significant increase,” the statement said.
“The Ministry of Culture and Tourism reminds Chinese tourists to enhance their safety awareness and do not travel to Australia.”
The warning came after China’s state-run tabloid Global Times published an editorial warning Chinese students to “be cautious about studying in Australia”.
There have been anecdotal reports of people of Asian appearance experiencing increased racism in the wake of COVID-19.
This warning from China could further sour relations between the trade partners.
Last month, China announced an 80 per cent tariff on Australian barley and blacklisted four major beef exporters due to labelling violations.
But Beijing denied the new trade measures were retaliated to Australia’s call for an independent investigation into the global pandemic.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-06/coronavirus-update-sat-june-6—china-australia-racism-india/12327554
Wait, weren’t they reporting actual data on increased incidents ¿ Then suddenly there’s a trade war and… wait, aren’t we keeping borders closed anyway ¿
World Health Organization says ‘it’s not over’
Some countries have seen rises in COVID-19 cases as lockdowns ease, and populations must protect themselves from the coronavirus while authorities continue testing, the World Health Organization (WHO) says.
The epicentre of the pandemic is currently in countries of Central, South and North America, particularly the United States, WHO spokeswoman Margaret Harris said.
“On upticks (in cases), yes we have seen in countries around the world — I’m not talking specifically about Europe — when the lockdowns ease, when the social distancing measures ease, people sometimes interpret this as ‘OK, it’s over’,” Ms Harris told a UN briefing in Geneva.
“It’s not over. It’s not over until there is no virus anywhere in the world.”
Ms Harris, referring to US demonstrations since the killing of George Floyd 10 days ago, said that protesters must take precautions.
“We have certainly seen a lot of passion this week, we’ve seen people who have felt the need to be out and to express their feelings,” she said.
“We ask them to remember still protect yourself and others.”
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-06/coronavirus-update-sat-june-6—china-australia-racism-india/12327554
So they reckon this is still something achievable, no virus in the world ¿ How ¿
India reports another spike in cases as the country eases its strict lockdown
India’s Health Ministry on Friday reported another record spike in new coronavirus cases — more than 9,800 in 24 hours.
India now has 226,770 confirmed cases with 6,348 deaths, 273 of them in the past 24 hours, the ministry said.
It said the overall rate of recovery for coronavirus patients was about 48 per cent.
There had been a surge in infections in rural areas following the return of hundreds of thousands of migrant workers from cities and towns after losing their jobs due to a nationwide lockdown.
The more-than-two-month lockdown is now largely being enforced only in high-risk areas, known as containment zones.
The Government has partially restored train services and domestic flights and allowed the reopening of shops and manufacturing.
E-commerce companies have started to deliver goods, including those considered non-essential, to places outside containment zones.
Metro service and schools and colleges, however, remain shuttered nationwide.
Prime Minister Narendra Modi, meanwhile, announced India was contributing $15 million to an international vaccine alliance.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-06/coronavirus-update-sat-june-6—china-australia-racism-india/12327554
Somewhere to keep watching, will they pull a dramatic turnaround or will that rural seeding give us a 2 week times 10 burst ¿
SCIENCE said:
‘Don’t travel to Australia’: China warns citizens of racism
The Chinese Ministry of Culture and Tourism has issued a travel alert to its citizens warning them not to travel to Australia due to a “significant increase” in racist attacks on “Chinese and Asian people”.The statement issued on Friday (local time) said the alleged attacks came in the aftermath of the coronavirus pandemic.
“Due to the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic, racial discrimination and violence against Chinese and Asian people in Australia have seen a significant increase,” the statement said.
“The Ministry of Culture and Tourism reminds Chinese tourists to enhance their safety awareness and do not travel to Australia.”
The warning came after China’s state-run tabloid Global Times published an editorial warning Chinese students to “be cautious about studying in Australia”.
There have been anecdotal reports of people of Asian appearance experiencing increased racism in the wake of COVID-19.
This warning from China could further sour relations between the trade partners.
Last month, China announced an 80 per cent tariff on Australian barley and blacklisted four major beef exporters due to labelling violations.
But Beijing denied the new trade measures were retaliated to Australia’s call for an independent investigation into the global pandemic.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-06/coronavirus-update-sat-june-6—china-australia-racism-india/12327554
Wait, weren’t they reporting actual data on increased incidents ¿ Then suddenly there’s a trade war and… wait, aren’t we keeping borders closed anyway ¿
Would the Global Times like to comment on reports similar to this one?
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-stay-away-from-here-in-china-foreigners-have-become-a-target-for/
SCIENCE said:
India reports another spike in cases as the country eases its strict lockdownIndia’s Health Ministry on Friday reported another record spike in new coronavirus cases — more than 9,800 in 24 hours.
India now has 226,770 confirmed cases with 6,348 deaths, 273 of them in the past 24 hours, the ministry said.
It said the overall rate of recovery for coronavirus patients was about 48 per cent.
There had been a surge in infections in rural areas following the return of hundreds of thousands of migrant workers from cities and towns after losing their jobs due to a nationwide lockdown.
The more-than-two-month lockdown is now largely being enforced only in high-risk areas, known as containment zones.
The Government has partially restored train services and domestic flights and allowed the reopening of shops and manufacturing.
E-commerce companies have started to deliver goods, including those considered non-essential, to places outside containment zones.
Metro service and schools and colleges, however, remain shuttered nationwide.
Prime Minister Narendra Modi, meanwhile, announced India was contributing $15 million to an international vaccine alliance.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-06/coronavirus-update-sat-june-6—china-australia-racism-india/12327554
Somewhere to keep watching, will they pull a dramatic turnaround or will that rural seeding give us a 2 week times 10 burst ¿
I fear the latter.
SCIENCE said:
World Health Organization says ‘it’s not over’Some countries have seen rises in COVID-19 cases as lockdowns ease, and populations must protect themselves from the coronavirus while authorities continue testing, the World Health Organization (WHO) says.
The epicentre of the pandemic is currently in countries of Central, South and North America, particularly the United States, WHO spokeswoman Margaret Harris said.
“On upticks (in cases), yes we have seen in countries around the world — I’m not talking specifically about Europe — when the lockdowns ease, when the social distancing measures ease, people sometimes interpret this as ‘OK, it’s over’,” Ms Harris told a UN briefing in Geneva.
“It’s not over. It’s not over until there is no virus anywhere in the world.”
Ms Harris, referring to US demonstrations since the killing of George Floyd 10 days ago, said that protesters must take precautions.
“We have certainly seen a lot of passion this week, we’ve seen people who have felt the need to be out and to express their feelings,” she said.
“We ask them to remember still protect yourself and others.”
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-06/coronavirus-update-sat-june-6—china-australia-racism-india/12327554
So they reckon this is still something achievable, no virus in the world ¿ How ¿
all it means is it’s a persistent reality, adjustments in progress, any highly contagious pathogen that overwhelms services, especially of medical services, of this type of challenge, has a cascade of amplified problems, the growth rate of infections is not the only thing exponential if proper measures aren’t taken, the challenges are potentially exponential also, and lots of people aren’t well-equipped to cope with multiple simultaneous challenges, or cascades of problems
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-06/coronavirus-cases-queensland-fruit-picker-public-health-alert/12309468
“A public health alert has been issued in Queensland after a fruit picker flew who into the state tested positive for coronavirus.
Deputy Premier Steven Miles said the man received the diagnosis in the past 24 hours, taking the number of active cases in the state to four.
He said the Melbourne man flew to Brisbane and took a second flight to Bundaberg, where he picked fruit and lived in shared accommodation.
Mr Miles said the man, who had been in contact with a known COVID-19 case in Melbourne, spent one night in Brisbane to socialise with about 15 family and friends on the south side of Brisbane.
He then flew to Bundaberg the next day and worked one day with a number of colleagues.”
Michael V said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-06/coronavirus-cases-queensland-fruit-picker-public-health-alert/12309468“A public health alert has been issued in Queensland after a fruit picker flew who into the state tested positive for coronavirus.
Deputy Premier Steven Miles said the man received the diagnosis in the past 24 hours, taking the number of active cases in the state to four.
He said the Melbourne man flew to Brisbane and took a second flight to Bundaberg, where he picked fruit and lived in shared accommodation.
Mr Miles said the man, who had been in contact with a known COVID-19 case in Melbourne, spent one night in Brisbane to socialise with about 15 family and friends on the south side of Brisbane.
He then flew to Bundaberg the next day and worked one day with a number of colleagues.”
boom
known case in Melbourne ¿
responsibility, people…
captain_spalding said:
SCIENCE said:
‘Don’t travel to Australia’: China warns citizens of racism
The Chinese Ministry of Culture and Tourism has issued a travel alert to its citizens warning them not to travel to Australia due to a “significant increase” in racist attacks on “Chinese and Asian people”.The statement issued on Friday (local time) said the alleged attacks came in the aftermath of the coronavirus pandemic.
“Due to the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic, racial discrimination and violence against Chinese and Asian people in Australia have seen a significant increase,” the statement said.
“The Ministry of Culture and Tourism reminds Chinese tourists to enhance their safety awareness and do not travel to Australia.”
The warning came after China’s state-run tabloid Global Times published an editorial warning Chinese students to “be cautious about studying in Australia”.
There have been anecdotal reports of people of Asian appearance experiencing increased racism in the wake of COVID-19.
This warning from China could further sour relations between the trade partners.
Last month, China announced an 80 per cent tariff on Australian barley and blacklisted four major beef exporters due to labelling violations.
But Beijing denied the new trade measures were retaliated to Australia’s call for an independent investigation into the global pandemic.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-06/coronavirus-update-sat-june-6—china-australia-racism-india/12327554
Wait, weren’t they reporting actual data on increased incidents ¿ Then suddenly there’s a trade war and… wait, aren’t we keeping borders closed anyway ¿
Would the Global Times like to comment on reports similar to this one?
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-stay-away-from-here-in-china-foreigners-have-become-a-target-for/
well, what do we think about casually letting some coronavirus risk in hey
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-06/coronavirus-cases-queensland-fruit-picker-public-health-alert/12309468“A public health alert has been issued in Queensland after a fruit picker flew who into the state tested positive for coronavirus.
Deputy Premier Steven Miles said the man received the diagnosis in the past 24 hours, taking the number of active cases in the state to four.
He said the Melbourne man flew to Brisbane and took a second flight to Bundaberg, where he picked fruit and lived in shared accommodation.
Mr Miles said the man, who had been in contact with a known COVID-19 case in Melbourne, spent one night in Brisbane to socialise with about 15 family and friends on the south side of Brisbane.
He then flew to Bundaberg the next day and worked one day with a number of colleagues.”
boom
known case in Melbourne ¿
responsibility, people…
To be fair, the fruit-picker may not have known, it could’ve been the back-tracing that picked it up, not the forward-tracing from the known case.
Michael V said:
SCIENCE said:
Michael V said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-06/coronavirus-cases-queensland-fruit-picker-public-health-alert/12309468“A public health alert has been issued in Queensland after a fruit picker flew who into the state tested positive for coronavirus.
Deputy Premier Steven Miles said the man received the diagnosis in the past 24 hours, taking the number of active cases in the state to four.
He said the Melbourne man flew to Brisbane and took a second flight to Bundaberg, where he picked fruit and lived in shared accommodation.
Mr Miles said the man, who had been in contact with a known COVID-19 case in Melbourne, spent one night in Brisbane to socialise with about 15 family and friends on the south side of Brisbane.
He then flew to Bundaberg the next day and worked one day with a number of colleagues.”
boom
known case in Melbourne ¿
responsibility, people…
To be fair, the fruit-picker may not have known, it could’ve been the back-tracing that picked it up, not the forward-tracing from the known case.
they’ll be able to easily convince us, if they can demonstrate that COVIDSafe was the part that made all the difference here
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we recognise that there may be more privacy issues involved but still maintain that unless any software is proactive and tells you places to AVOID, rather than where you’ve been, then it misses the Princess
Vitamin K found in some cheeses could help fight Covid-19, study suggests
Scientists in Netherlands explore possible link between deficiency and Covid-19 deaths
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/jun/05/vitamin-k-could-help-fight-coronavirus-study-suggests
buffy said:
sibeen said:
sarahs mum said:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/06/new-zealand-readers-tell-us-how-they-want-the-country-to-change-after-covid-19
‘Why would I want to go back into the office?,
“Working from home can bring so many bonuses – flexibility, pleasant working environment, no early morning alarms, no stressful commuting, enjoying daily lunchtime walks, better home-prepared meals, better quality sleeping and less anxiety. Why would I want to go back into the office?”Rachael, 57, librarian, Wellington
Many jobs can be performed from home, I just didn’t think that librarian would be one of them.
What is the go with electricity, internet, phone etc when people are told to work from home. Do they generally get an allowance? And what is the go with workplace safety? Is the employer taking a really big risk because they cannot control the environment?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-07/claiming-tax-deductions-for-working-from-home-coronavirus-ato/12128622
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-16/coronavirus-working-from-home-legal-liability-employment-law/12056942
SCIENCE said:
buffy said:
sibeen said:‘Why would I want to go back into the office?,
“Working from home can bring so many bonuses – flexibility, pleasant working environment, no early morning alarms, no stressful commuting, enjoying daily lunchtime walks, better home-prepared meals, better quality sleeping and less anxiety. Why would I want to go back into the office?”Rachael, 57, librarian, Wellington
Many jobs can be performed from home, I just didn’t think that librarian would be one of them.
What is the go with electricity, internet, phone etc when people are told to work from home. Do they generally get an allowance? And what is the go with workplace safety? Is the employer taking a really big risk because they cannot control the environment?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-07/claiming-tax-deductions-for-working-from-home-coronavirus-ato/12128622
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-16/coronavirus-working-from-home-legal-liability-employment-law/12056942
Thank you, I’ll have a look.
SCIENCE said:
Days since the last reported case of COVID-19
NSW 0
VIC 0
WA 0
QLD 3
SA 9
TAS 20
ACT 32
NT 33
Last updated 13:56 PM AEST on Friday, June 5—
there you go, it’s better to live somewhere that they Isolate The State except WA, which is just bad
Interesting table.
Eat strawberries, they’re safe from COVID.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-06/coronavirus-cases-queensland-fruit-picker-public-health-alert/12309468
Divine Angel said:
Eat strawberries, they’re safe from COVID.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-06/coronavirus-cases-queensland-fruit-picker-public-health-alert/12309468
remember when needles
See you all in the statistics in 2 weeks!
The 75 year old man, pushed over by the Buffalo police.
Look closely at the start of the video of him and the cops.
The man has a police riot helmet in his hand. It was probably lost in an earlier ‘operation’ and he’s trying to return it to the police.
Can’t have that sort of thing. Neutralise that threat, and quickly.
Then the cop who did the shoving shrugs, to say ‘hey, confront police, what do you expect?’‘.
captain_spalding said:
The 75 year old man, pushed over by the Buffalo police.
Look closely at the start of the video of him and the cops.
The man has a police riot helmet in his hand. It was probably lost in an earlier ‘operation’ and he’s trying to return it to the police.
Can’t have that sort of thing. Neutralise that threat, and quickly.
Then the cop who did the shoving shrugs, to say ‘hey, confront police, what do you expect?’‘.
.. and then the Governor said :push an old bloke over and you get sacked, what did you expect?”
then another 60 police said “sack a police officer and we all quit, what did you expect?”
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:
The 75 year old man, pushed over by the Buffalo police.
Look closely at the start of the video of him and the cops.
The man has a police riot helmet in his hand. It was probably lost in an earlier ‘operation’ and he’s trying to return it to the police.
Can’t have that sort of thing. Neutralise that threat, and quickly.
Then the cop who did the shoving shrugs, to say ‘hey, confront police, what do you expect?’‘.
.. and then the Governor said :push an old bloke over and you get sacked, what did you expect?”
then another 60 police said “sack a police officer and we all quit, what did you expect?”
Except they didn’t quit their PoliceD epartment – they quit going to protests.
Michael V said:
party_pants said:
captain_spalding said:
The 75 year old man, pushed over by the Buffalo police.
Look closely at the start of the video of him and the cops.
The man has a police riot helmet in his hand. It was probably lost in an earlier ‘operation’ and he’s trying to return it to the police.
Can’t have that sort of thing. Neutralise that threat, and quickly.
Then the cop who did the shoving shrugs, to say ‘hey, confront police, what do you expect?’‘.
.. and then the Governor said :push an old bloke over and you get sacked, what did you expect?”
then another 60 police said “sack a police officer and we all quit, what did you expect?”
Except they didn’t quit their PoliceD epartment – they quit going to protests.
where’s the problem, if you can’t behave yourself, don’t go to the party
Stupid. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
sibeen said:
Stupid. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
+1
sibeen said:
Stupid. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
I was thinking “irresponsible”…
What do we think of this?
Breaking Covid news! Italy has allegedly discovered covid is not a virus, but a bacterium. It clots the blood and reduces the oxygen saturation from dispersing throughout the body.
Tamb said:
What do we think of this?
Breaking Covid news! Italy has allegedly discovered covid is not a virus, but a bacterium. It clots the blood and reduces the oxygen saturation from dispersing throughout the body.
sniff, sniff
Hmm….i’m getting a distinctly bovine aroma, very earthy tones to it, not entirely unlike similar equine by-products…
captain_spalding said:
Tamb said:
What do we think of this?
Breaking Covid news! Italy has allegedly discovered covid is not a virus, but a bacterium. It clots the blood and reduces the oxygen saturation from dispersing throughout the body.
sniff, sniff
Hmm….i’m getting a distinctly bovine aroma, very earthy tones to it, not entirely unlike similar equine by-products…
ABC News:
‘Four teenagers have been killed in a single-vehicle crash in Townsville in North Queensland.
Police say emergency crews were called to the corner of Duckworth Street and Bayswater Road at Garbutt just before 4:30am today.
A Queensland Ambulance spokeswoman said one male teenager was taken to Townsville University Hospital in a stable condition with minor injuries.
The ABC understands the vehicle involved in the crash was stolen.’
If only young people could learn lesson. If only i’d learnt that one lesson.
That is, it’s not like it is in the moofies, kids. It’s never like it is in the moofies.
Wrong thread. Apologies.
captain_spalding said:
Wrong thread. Apologies.
captain_spalding said:
Tamb said:
What do we think of this?
Breaking Covid news! Italy has allegedly discovered covid is not a virus, but a bacterium. It clots the blood and reduces the oxygen saturation from dispersing throughout the body.
sniff, sniff
Hmm….i’m getting a distinctly bovine aroma, very earthy tones to it, not entirely unlike similar equine by-products…
LOL
Tamb said:
What do we think of this?
Breaking Covid news! Italy has allegedly discovered covid is not a virus, but a bacterium. It clots the blood and reduces the oxygen saturation from dispersing throughout the body.
Do you have a link?
Michael V said:
Tamb said:
What do we think of this?
Breaking Covid news! Italy has allegedly discovered covid is not a virus, but a bacterium. It clots the blood and reduces the oxygen saturation from dispersing throughout the body.
Do you have a link?
Michael V said:
Tamb said:
What do we think of this?
Breaking Covid news! Italy has allegedly discovered covid is not a virus, but a bacterium. It clots the blood and reduces the oxygen saturation from dispersing throughout the body.
Do you have a link?
Weekly World News, probably.
Tamb said:
Michael V said:
Tamb said:
What do we think of this?
Breaking Covid news! Italy has allegedly discovered covid is not a virus, but a bacterium. It clots the blood and reduces the oxygen saturation from dispersing throughout the body.
Do you have a link?
It was a fb post.
If you query Italy coronavirus theory it will lead you to some woo woo posts.
More from those new (novel?) experts on Facebook?
https://factcheck.afp.com/myth-circulates-online-italy-discovered-covid-19-bacteria-curable-taking-paracetamol
https://apnews.com/afs:Content:8971390832
https://www.thejournal.ie/is-it-true-that-covid-is-a-bacterium-5113790-Jun2020/
I’d dearly love to work for the Weekly World News. It must be non-stop fun.
The text of the bacterium hoax says that ‘Hopefully our president will earn about this (it being a bacterium) and do something about it’.
We can only hope the Trump doesn’t learn anything about this nonsense, and come up with his own cure. Drinking floor polish and putting your finger in a light socket, maybe.
captain_spalding said:
The text of the bacterium hoax says that ‘Hopefully our president will earn about this (it being a bacterium) and do something about it’.We can only hope the Trump doesn’t learn anything about this nonsense, and come up with his own cure. Drinking floor polish and putting your finger in a light socket, maybe.
LOL
Tamb said:
What do we think of this?
Breaking Covid news! Italy has allegedly discovered covid is not a virus, but a bacterium. It clots the blood and reduces the oxygen saturation from dispersing throughout the body.
We think it is arrant nonsense.
Mathias Cormann said protesters were recklessly risking an outbreak of coronavirus
Labor’s Richard Marles accused Senator Cormann of making tone-deaf comments
Neither attended the rallies and both urged people against participating in future protests
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-07/cormann-dubs-black-lives-matter-protesters-selfish-coronavirus/12330196
wars of words
a few thoughts to throw on the fire
just say it straight, enough of the political point scoring shit slinging
see, social distancing makes a medium sized crowd look so much more impressive
mask use of 60% ain’t terrible but really it could be better, good on the handout people though
we mean fk, HK even wore mask specifically to protest, were sure AU could
we shouldn’t go for eradication they said, too expensive they said
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-07/act-records-first-new-coronavirus-case-in-more-than-a-month/12330612
ACT Health said the newly confirmed case had recently returned from overseas
The man is aged in his 40s and has been in quarantine since his arrival
https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2020-06-07/a-matter-of-when-not-if-the-next-pandemic-is-around-the-corner/12313372
Remember, to avert bushfire disaster all we need to do is lock up everyone who is going to light fires, before they do it.
SCIENCE said:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2020-06-07/a-matter-of-when-not-if-the-next-pandemic-is-around-the-corner/12313372Remember, to avert bushfire disaster all we need to do is lock up everyone who is going to light fires, before they do it.
I have always felt that arsonists should be handed down at least part of their sentence in high fire days and not in general days. I’d get them to report to a police station and sit in the corner. Giving them 30 days in jail in July…
COVIDSafe app take-up may not be enough to effectively trace potential Black Lives Matter coronavirus outbreaks, says Deputy CMO
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-07/covidsafe-app-black-lives-matter-protest-coronavirus-australia/12330802
no, comrades, that is the understatement of the millisecond
you have a throng of people shouting, chanting, getting pepper sprayed, licking the shrines
if it’s actually there and it’s actually spreading, it’s going to spread much more readily than every 15 minutes across less than 1.5 m
flip side is at least in this image the masks are taken up relatively well
While We Weren’t Watching
USSA has Flattened The Curve — they aren’t even pretending that there is a lower number of confirmations over weekends any more.
While We Weren’t Watching
All Lives Matter in the USSA but Who Gives A Fuck About People In Even Less Privileged Countries Getting Sick And Dying
SCIENCE said:
While We Weren’t WatchingUSSA has Flattened The Curve
most amusing, darkly
Worldometer is reading 6,999,935 cases. Was it only last weekend we reached 6,000,000? Now we are about to tick over 7 million.
Also, the USA will likely reach 2 million by tomorrow morning.
party_pants said:
Worldometer is reading 6,999,935 cases. Was it only last weekend we reached 6,000,000? Now we are about to tick over 7 million.Also, the USA will likely reach 2 million by tomorrow morning.
Reckon Worldometer will hit 12 milllion and go over?
Can anyone work out the total projected by he current growth rates?
Americans gargling bleach to try to beat virus
New York: A new Centres for Disease Control and Prevention report indicates Americans are putting household disinfectants including bleach into their bodies because they believe such practices can ward off coronavirus despite such “preventive” measures being ineffective and dangerous.
The study, posted by the CDC on Friday, explored how much its 502 participants knew about disinfectants and asked how those subjects were using such products to stop the spread of the deadly pandemic that has killed more than 110,000 Americans.
“These practices pose a risk of severe tissue damage and corrosive injury and should be strictly avoided,” the report said.
“Although adverse health effects reported by respondents could not be attributed to their engaging in high-risk practices, the association between these high-risk practices and reported adverse health effects indicates a need for public messaging regarding safe and effective cleaning and disinfection practices aimed at preventing SARS-CoV-2 transmission in households,” it said.
Concerns about the ingestion of household cleaning products spiked in April when President Donald Trump speculated during a news briefing that disinfectants, “by injection inside or almost a cleaning,” could someday be used to clean the lungs of people infected with COVID-19.
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no comment
Some more of those delayed fkn up deaths in younger people, this should be just a little sniffle.
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SINGAPORE: A 41-year-old man died from complications due to COVID-19 more than two weeks after recovering from the disease and being discharged, the Ministry of Health (MOH) said on Saturday (Jun 6).
Case 11714, the man tested positive for the coronavirus on Apr 22. He recovered from the infection and was discharged on May 17, the health ministry said.
On Jun 4, more than two weeks after he was discharged, he collapsed and died.
“The coroner has certified that the cause of death was massive pulmonary thromboembolism following SARS-CoV-2 infection,” MOH said.
SCIENCE said:
Some more of those delayed fkn up deaths in younger people, this should be just a little sniffle.—
SINGAPORE: A 41-year-old man died from complications due to COVID-19 more than two weeks after recovering from the disease and being discharged, the Ministry of Health (MOH) said on Saturday (Jun 6).
Case 11714, the man tested positive for the coronavirus on Apr 22. He recovered from the infection and was discharged on May 17, the health ministry said.
On Jun 4, more than two weeks after he was discharged, he collapsed and died.
“The coroner has certified that the cause of death was massive pulmonary thromboembolism following SARS-CoV-2 infection,” MOH said.
Sounds like those who recover need some after testing.
SCIENCE said:
Some more of those delayed fkn up deaths in younger people, this should be just a little sniffle.—
SINGAPORE: A 41-year-old man died from complications due to COVID-19 more than two weeks after recovering from the disease and being discharged, the Ministry of Health (MOH) said on Saturday (Jun 6).
Case 11714, the man tested positive for the coronavirus on Apr 22. He recovered from the infection and was discharged on May 17, the health ministry said.
On Jun 4, more than two weeks after he was discharged, he collapsed and died.
“The coroner has certified that the cause of death was massive pulmonary thromboembolism following SARS-CoV-2 infection,” MOH said.
Interesting! Surprises around every corner.
SCIENCE said:
Some more of those delayed fkn up deaths in younger people, this should be just a little sniffle.—
SINGAPORE: A 41-year-old man died from complications due to COVID-19 more than two weeks after recovering from the disease and being discharged, the Ministry of Health (MOH) said on Saturday (Jun 6).
Case 11714, the man tested positive for the coronavirus on Apr 22. He recovered from the infection and was discharged on May 17, the health ministry said.
On Jun 4, more than two weeks after he was discharged, he collapsed and died.
“The coroner has certified that the cause of death was massive pulmonary thromboembolism following SARS-CoV-2 infection,” MOH said.
Happens with the normal flu too, it’s nothing ‘new’ as such. In fact, it can happen with many infectious diseases post recovery.
poikilotherm said:
SCIENCE said:
Some more of those delayed fkn up deaths in younger people, this should be just a little sniffle.—
SINGAPORE: A 41-year-old man died from complications due to COVID-19 more than two weeks after recovering from the disease and being discharged, the Ministry of Health (MOH) said on Saturday (Jun 6).
Case 11714, the man tested positive for the coronavirus on Apr 22. He recovered from the infection and was discharged on May 17, the health ministry said.
On Jun 4, more than two weeks after he was discharged, he collapsed and died.
“The coroner has certified that the cause of death was massive pulmonary thromboembolism following SARS-CoV-2 infection,” MOH said.
Happens with the normal flu too, it’s nothing ‘new’ as such. In fact, it can happen with many infectious diseases post recovery.
‘It’ being getting a clot and dropping dead.
poikilotherm said:
poikilotherm said:
SCIENCE said:
Some more of those delayed fkn up deaths in younger people, this should be just a little sniffle.—
SINGAPORE: A 41-year-old man died from complications due to COVID-19 more than two weeks after recovering from the disease and being discharged, the Ministry of Health (MOH) said on Saturday (Jun 6).
Case 11714, the man tested positive for the coronavirus on Apr 22. He recovered from the infection and was discharged on May 17, the health ministry said.
On Jun 4, more than two weeks after he was discharged, he collapsed and died.
“The coroner has certified that the cause of death was massive pulmonary thromboembolism following SARS-CoV-2 infection,” MOH said.
Happens with the normal flu too, it’s nothing ‘new’ as such. In fact, it can happen with many infectious diseases post recovery.
‘It’ being getting a clot and dropping dead.
Wouldn’t this be an underlying condition?
roughbarked said:
poikilotherm said:
poikilotherm said:Happens with the normal flu too, it’s nothing ‘new’ as such. In fact, it can happen with many infectious diseases post recovery.
‘It’ being getting a clot and dropping dead.
Wouldn’t this be an underlying condition?
Maybe, but it happens enough to be probably due to having an infection alone, so maybe not.
poikilotherm said:
roughbarked said:
poikilotherm said:‘It’ being getting a clot and dropping dead.
Wouldn’t this be an underlying condition?
Maybe, but it happens enough to be probably due to having an infection alone, so maybe not.
Fair enough.
poikilotherm said:
SCIENCE said:
Some more of those delayed fkn up deaths in younger people, this should be just a little sniffle.—
SINGAPORE: A 41-year-old man died from complications due to COVID-19 more than two weeks after recovering from the disease and being discharged, the Ministry of Health (MOH) said on Saturday (Jun 6).
Case 11714, the man tested positive for the coronavirus on Apr 22. He recovered from the infection and was discharged on May 17, the health ministry said.
On Jun 4, more than two weeks after he was discharged, he collapsed and died.
“The coroner has certified that the cause of death was massive pulmonary thromboembolism following SARS-CoV-2 infection,” MOH said.
Happens with the normal flu too, it’s nothing ‘new’ as such. In fact, it can happen with many infectious diseases post recovery.
To quote my father: Stop confuddling the issue with facts!
exactly, dying happens with influenza too
The virus is having a weekend break in the Americas again I see.
Check back on Wednesday.
The Rev Dodgson said:
The virus is having a weekend break in the Americas again I see.Check back on Wednesday.
Looks like someone did some checking in Chile. They usually peg at 80 a day or so but they reported 600+ yesterday
The Rev Dodgson said:
The virus is having a weekend break in the Americas again I see.Check back on Wednesday.
Canada have gone past China, they are having a disappointing season.
Up to 7 million now in the lotto draw.
Anyone reckon it will go over 12 million.
