Date: 2/06/2020 15:29:48
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1566154
Subject: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

The Silurian Period occurred from 443 million to 416 million years ago. It was the third period in the Paleozoic Era. It followed the Ordovician Period and preceded the Devonian Period. During this time, continental landmasses were low and sea levels were rising. This meant rich shallow sea ecosystems with new ecological niches. Silurian fossils show evidence of extensive reef building and the first signs that life beginning to colonize the new estuary, fresh water and terrestrial ecosystems.

During the Silurian Period, the climate was generally warm and stable, in contrast to the glaciers of the late Ordovician and the extreme heat of the Devonian. A warm, stable climate provided for one of the most significant developments to take place during the Silurian Period: the arrival of the first plants to colonize the land. Lichens were probably the first photosynthetic organisms to cling to the rocky coasts of the early continents. When organic matter from decaying lichens joined the action of erosion to wear away rock, the first real soil began to build up in shallow, protected estuaries. Bryophytes such moss, hornworts and liverworts first appeared in the late Ordovician. The first known plant to have an upright stalk, and vascular tissue for water transport, was the Cooksonia of the mid-Silurian deltas. This little plant was a few centimeters high with a branched structure with small bulbous tips. It lacked true leaves, suggesting that the stalk developed to disperse spores and was not itself photosynthetic. The first known air-breathing animals were arthropods. Millipedes, centipedes and the earliest arachnids first appear in the Silurian. Since arachnids are exclusively predatory, this represents the first terrestrial food web.

https://www.livescience.com/43514-silurian-period.html

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Date: 2/06/2020 15:36:06
From: roughbarked
ID: 1566162
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

PermeateFree said:


The Silurian Period occurred from 443 million to 416 million years ago. It was the third period in the Paleozoic Era. It followed the Ordovician Period and preceded the Devonian Period. During this time, continental landmasses were low and sea levels were rising. This meant rich shallow sea ecosystems with new ecological niches. Silurian fossils show evidence of extensive reef building and the first signs that life beginning to colonize the new estuary, fresh water and terrestrial ecosystems.

During the Silurian Period, the climate was generally warm and stable, in contrast to the glaciers of the late Ordovician and the extreme heat of the Devonian. A warm, stable climate provided for one of the most significant developments to take place during the Silurian Period: the arrival of the first plants to colonize the land. Lichens were probably the first photosynthetic organisms to cling to the rocky coasts of the early continents. When organic matter from decaying lichens joined the action of erosion to wear away rock, the first real soil began to build up in shallow, protected estuaries. Bryophytes such moss, hornworts and liverworts first appeared in the late Ordovician. The first known plant to have an upright stalk, and vascular tissue for water transport, was the Cooksonia of the mid-Silurian deltas. This little plant was a few centimeters high with a branched structure with small bulbous tips. It lacked true leaves, suggesting that the stalk developed to disperse spores and was not itself photosynthetic. The first known air-breathing animals were arthropods. Millipedes, centipedes and the earliest arachnids first appear in the Silurian. Since arachnids are exclusively predatory, this represents the first terrestrial food web.

https://www.livescience.com/43514-silurian-period.html

Some of these fossils are found in opalised deposits?

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Date: 2/06/2020 15:41:20
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1566168
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

roughbarked said:


PermeateFree said:

The Silurian Period occurred from 443 million to 416 million years ago. It was the third period in the Paleozoic Era. It followed the Ordovician Period and preceded the Devonian Period. During this time, continental landmasses were low and sea levels were rising. This meant rich shallow sea ecosystems with new ecological niches. Silurian fossils show evidence of extensive reef building and the first signs that life beginning to colonize the new estuary, fresh water and terrestrial ecosystems.

During the Silurian Period, the climate was generally warm and stable, in contrast to the glaciers of the late Ordovician and the extreme heat of the Devonian. A warm, stable climate provided for one of the most significant developments to take place during the Silurian Period: the arrival of the first plants to colonize the land. Lichens were probably the first photosynthetic organisms to cling to the rocky coasts of the early continents. When organic matter from decaying lichens joined the action of erosion to wear away rock, the first real soil began to build up in shallow, protected estuaries. Bryophytes such moss, hornworts and liverworts first appeared in the late Ordovician. The first known plant to have an upright stalk, and vascular tissue for water transport, was the Cooksonia of the mid-Silurian deltas. This little plant was a few centimeters high with a branched structure with small bulbous tips. It lacked true leaves, suggesting that the stalk developed to disperse spores and was not itself photosynthetic. The first known air-breathing animals were arthropods. Millipedes, centipedes and the earliest arachnids first appear in the Silurian. Since arachnids are exclusively predatory, this represents the first terrestrial food web.

https://www.livescience.com/43514-silurian-period.html

Some of these fossils are found in opalised deposits?

Think the opalised deposits are from a much later period, marine creatures there lived in Australia’s inland sea from the Cretaceous period (144 to 65 million years ago).

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Date: 2/06/2020 15:42:28
From: roughbarked
ID: 1566171
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

PermeateFree said:


roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

The Silurian Period occurred from 443 million to 416 million years ago. It was the third period in the Paleozoic Era. It followed the Ordovician Period and preceded the Devonian Period. During this time, continental landmasses were low and sea levels were rising. This meant rich shallow sea ecosystems with new ecological niches. Silurian fossils show evidence of extensive reef building and the first signs that life beginning to colonize the new estuary, fresh water and terrestrial ecosystems.

During the Silurian Period, the climate was generally warm and stable, in contrast to the glaciers of the late Ordovician and the extreme heat of the Devonian. A warm, stable climate provided for one of the most significant developments to take place during the Silurian Period: the arrival of the first plants to colonize the land. Lichens were probably the first photosynthetic organisms to cling to the rocky coasts of the early continents. When organic matter from decaying lichens joined the action of erosion to wear away rock, the first real soil began to build up in shallow, protected estuaries. Bryophytes such moss, hornworts and liverworts first appeared in the late Ordovician. The first known plant to have an upright stalk, and vascular tissue for water transport, was the Cooksonia of the mid-Silurian deltas. This little plant was a few centimeters high with a branched structure with small bulbous tips. It lacked true leaves, suggesting that the stalk developed to disperse spores and was not itself photosynthetic. The first known air-breathing animals were arthropods. Millipedes, centipedes and the earliest arachnids first appear in the Silurian. Since arachnids are exclusively predatory, this represents the first terrestrial food web.

https://www.livescience.com/43514-silurian-period.html

Some of these fossils are found in opalised deposits?

Think the opalised deposits are from a much later period, marine creatures there lived in Australia’s inland sea from the Cretaceous period (144 to 65 million years ago).

Well they are encased in cretaceous outcrops.

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Date: 2/06/2020 15:45:07
From: dv
ID: 1566176
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

PermeateFree said:


The Silurian Period occurred from 443 million to 416 million years ago. It was the third period in the Paleozoic Era. It followed the Ordovician Period and preceded the Devonian Period. During this time, continental landmasses were low and sea levels were rising. This meant rich shallow sea ecosystems with new ecological niches. Silurian fossils show evidence of extensive reef building and the first signs that life beginning to colonize the new estuary, fresh water and terrestrial ecosystems.

During the Silurian Period, the climate was generally warm and stable, in contrast to the glaciers of the late Ordovician and the extreme heat of the Devonian. A warm, stable climate provided for one of the most significant developments to take place during the Silurian Period: the arrival of the first plants to colonize the land. Lichens were probably the first photosynthetic organisms to cling to the rocky coasts of the early continents. When organic matter from decaying lichens joined the action of erosion to wear away rock, the first real soil began to build up in shallow, protected estuaries. Bryophytes such moss, hornworts and liverworts first appeared in the late Ordovician. The first known plant to have an upright stalk, and vascular tissue for water transport, was the Cooksonia of the mid-Silurian deltas. This little plant was a few centimeters high with a branched structure with small bulbous tips. It lacked true leaves, suggesting that the stalk developed to disperse spores and was not itself photosynthetic. The first known air-breathing animals were arthropods. Millipedes, centipedes and the earliest arachnids first appear in the Silurian. Since arachnids are exclusively predatory, this represents the first terrestrial food web.

https://www.livescience.com/43514-silurian-period.html

Nice article

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Date: 2/06/2020 15:48:19
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1566183
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

dv said:


PermeateFree said:

The Silurian Period occurred from 443 million to 416 million years ago. It was the third period in the Paleozoic Era. It followed the Ordovician Period and preceded the Devonian Period. During this time, continental landmasses were low and sea levels were rising. This meant rich shallow sea ecosystems with new ecological niches. Silurian fossils show evidence of extensive reef building and the first signs that life beginning to colonize the new estuary, fresh water and terrestrial ecosystems.

During the Silurian Period, the climate was generally warm and stable, in contrast to the glaciers of the late Ordovician and the extreme heat of the Devonian. A warm, stable climate provided for one of the most significant developments to take place during the Silurian Period: the arrival of the first plants to colonize the land. Lichens were probably the first photosynthetic organisms to cling to the rocky coasts of the early continents. When organic matter from decaying lichens joined the action of erosion to wear away rock, the first real soil began to build up in shallow, protected estuaries. Bryophytes such moss, hornworts and liverworts first appeared in the late Ordovician. The first known plant to have an upright stalk, and vascular tissue for water transport, was the Cooksonia of the mid-Silurian deltas. This little plant was a few centimeters high with a branched structure with small bulbous tips. It lacked true leaves, suggesting that the stalk developed to disperse spores and was not itself photosynthetic. The first known air-breathing animals were arthropods. Millipedes, centipedes and the earliest arachnids first appear in the Silurian. Since arachnids are exclusively predatory, this represents the first terrestrial food web.

https://www.livescience.com/43514-silurian-period.html

Nice article

Pleased you don’t have more petty issues with an oddly used word.

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Date: 2/06/2020 15:51:01
From: roughbarked
ID: 1566187
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

PermeateFree said:


dv said:

PermeateFree said:

The Silurian Period occurred from 443 million to 416 million years ago. It was the third period in the Paleozoic Era. It followed the Ordovician Period and preceded the Devonian Period. During this time, continental landmasses were low and sea levels were rising. This meant rich shallow sea ecosystems with new ecological niches. Silurian fossils show evidence of extensive reef building and the first signs that life beginning to colonize the new estuary, fresh water and terrestrial ecosystems.

During the Silurian Period, the climate was generally warm and stable, in contrast to the glaciers of the late Ordovician and the extreme heat of the Devonian. A warm, stable climate provided for one of the most significant developments to take place during the Silurian Period: the arrival of the first plants to colonize the land. Lichens were probably the first photosynthetic organisms to cling to the rocky coasts of the early continents. When organic matter from decaying lichens joined the action of erosion to wear away rock, the first real soil began to build up in shallow, protected estuaries. Bryophytes such moss, hornworts and liverworts first appeared in the late Ordovician. The first known plant to have an upright stalk, and vascular tissue for water transport, was the Cooksonia of the mid-Silurian deltas. This little plant was a few centimeters high with a branched structure with small bulbous tips. It lacked true leaves, suggesting that the stalk developed to disperse spores and was not itself photosynthetic. The first known air-breathing animals were arthropods. Millipedes, centipedes and the earliest arachnids first appear in the Silurian. Since arachnids are exclusively predatory, this represents the first terrestrial food web.

https://www.livescience.com/43514-silurian-period.html

Nice article

Pleased you don’t have more petty issues with an oddly used word.

Nice article may well mean that it reads well without repetitive usage of a misleading cue word.

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Date: 2/06/2020 17:56:00
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1566336
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

roughbarked said:


PermeateFree said:

dv said:

Nice article

Pleased you don’t have more petty issues with an oddly used word.

Nice article may well mean that it reads well without repetitive usage of a misleading cue word.

Fair enough, but where would you place millipedes that the average person would understand. Not an insect, nor an arachnid, so a millipede is a…………?

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Date: 2/06/2020 21:59:14
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1566463
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

PermeateFree said:


roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

Pleased you don’t have more petty issues with an oddly used word.

Nice article may well mean that it reads well without repetitive usage of a misleading cue word.

Fair enough, but where would you place millipedes that the average person would understand. Not an insect, nor an arachnid, so a millipede is a…………?

Myriapod – many foot. “The fossil record of myriapods reaches back into the late Silurian, although molecular evidence suggests a diversification in the Cambrian Period, and Cambrian fossils exist which resemble myriapods”.

The Silurian is a period about which I know very little. I’m more familiar with the Devonian and the fossils from Gogo. Am I right in thinking that most fossil types from the Silurian were also present either earlier or later than the Silurian?

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Date: 3/06/2020 01:04:46
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1566552
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

mollwollfumble said:


PermeateFree said:

roughbarked said:

Nice article may well mean that it reads well without repetitive usage of a misleading cue word.

Fair enough, but where would you place millipedes that the average person would understand. Not an insect, nor an arachnid, so a millipede is a…………?

Myriapod – many foot. “The fossil record of myriapods reaches back into the late Silurian, although molecular evidence suggests a diversification in the Cambrian Period, and Cambrian fossils exist which resemble myriapods”.

The Silurian is a period about which I know very little. I’m more familiar with the Devonian and the fossils from Gogo. Am I right in thinking that most fossil types from the Silurian were also present either earlier or later than the Silurian?

Centipedes and Millipedes had a common ancestor, but by around 420 million years ago they had each evolved into different organisms. As the fossil record around this period, evidence is difficult to come by and is still a work very much in progress. There is speculation in one of the articles that their ancestor might go back as far as 500 million years.

I know the Silurian period from fossils I dug near Yea in Victoria, where many were collected but few identified at the time. The Cooksonia plant genus, containing the oldest known land plants could be found there too although I did not come across it.

ORDOVICIAN-SILURIAN EXTINCTION 440 MILLION YEARS AGO
Scientists theorize that there were two main phases to this extinction: a glaciation event and a heating event. Abundant plant life removed carbon dioxide (CO
2) from the air, causing global cooling and glacier formation. This led to a drop in sea levels, reducing habitat. Later came global warming and sea level rising again. Creatures that had adapted to the cooler climate were unable to survive the increased temperature.

The Ordovician–Silurian extinction events, when combined, are the second-largest of the five major extinction events in Earth’s history in terms of percentage of genera that became extinct. Wikipedia
Occurred: 450 million years ago – 440 million years ago
Percent of species extinct: 60% – 70%

Silurian— Devonian period 444 to 419 million years ago
A distinct change in geochemical composition of the sediments of the linograptid “interregnum” as evidence fora short-term shallowing of the upwelling system, which brought nutrient-rich water. This change in graptolite fauna above the LAD of Monograptus transgradiens was,according to Porebska & Sawlowicz (1997), caused by a high productivity of cyanobacteria, which consequently in-creased the level of the anoxic layer. An upwelling of anoxic water was fatal for uniserial, straight monograptid colonies living deeper (close to the base of the mixed layer or near the top of the denitrification zone) than Linograptus populations. A high content of rhenium in sediments of the linograptid “interregnum” is also supporting a decrease in oxygen content of seawater. Porebska & Sawlowicz’s model (1997) also explains the demersal cephalopod species diversity decline as well as its low impact on the diversity of pelagic cephalopods.

So very selective extinctions dependent of where the organisms lived within the water column.

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Date: 3/06/2020 01:09:30
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1566553
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

mollwollfumble said:


PermeateFree said:

roughbarked said:

Nice article may well mean that it reads well without repetitive usage of a misleading cue word.

Fair enough, but where would you place millipedes that the average person would understand. Not an insect, nor an arachnid, so a millipede is a…………?

Myriapod – many foot. “The fossil record of myriapods reaches back into the late Silurian, although molecular evidence suggests a diversification in the Cambrian Period, and Cambrian fossils exist which resemble myriapods”.

The Silurian is a period about which I know very little. I’m more familiar with the Devonian and the fossils from Gogo. Am I right in thinking that most fossil types from the Silurian were also present either earlier or later than the Silurian?

Centipedes and Millipedes had a common ancestor, but by around 420 million years ago they had each evolved into different organisms. As the fossil record around this period, evidence is difficult to come by and is still a work very much in progress. There is speculation in one of the articles that their ancestor might go back as far as 500 million years.

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Date: 3/06/2020 01:17:36
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1566555
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

PermeateFree said:


mollwollfumble said:

PermeateFree said:

Fair enough, but where would you place millipedes that the average person would understand. Not an insect, nor an arachnid, so a millipede is a…………?

Myriapod – many foot. “The fossil record of myriapods reaches back into the late Silurian, although molecular evidence suggests a diversification in the Cambrian Period, and Cambrian fossils exist which resemble myriapods”.

The Silurian is a period about which I know very little. I’m more familiar with the Devonian and the fossils from Gogo. Am I right in thinking that most fossil types from the Silurian were also present either earlier or later than the Silurian?

Centipedes and Millipedes had a common ancestor, but by around 420 million years ago they had each evolved into different organisms. As the fossil record around this period, evidence is difficult to come by and is still a work very much in progress. There is speculation in one of the articles that their ancestor might go back as far as 500 million years.

Wrong thread, must be getting tired.

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Date: 3/06/2020 06:11:33
From: roughbarked
ID: 1566572
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

PermeateFree said:


roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

Pleased you don’t have more petty issues with an oddly used word.

Nice article may well mean that it reads well without repetitive usage of a misleading cue word.

Fair enough, but where would you place millipedes that the average person would understand. Not an insect, nor an arachnid, so a millipede is a…………?

an arthopod?

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Date: 3/06/2020 07:24:18
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1566586
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

PermeateFree said:


mollwollfumble said:

PermeateFree said:

Fair enough, but where would you place millipedes that the average person would understand. Not an insect, nor an arachnid, so a millipede is a…………?

Myriapod – many foot. “The fossil record of myriapods reaches back into the late Silurian, although molecular evidence suggests a diversification in the Cambrian Period, and Cambrian fossils exist which resemble myriapods”.

The Silurian is a period about which I know very little. I’m more familiar with the Devonian and the fossils from Gogo. Am I right in thinking that most fossil types from the Silurian were also present either earlier or later than the Silurian?

Centipedes and Millipedes had a common ancestor, but by around 420 million years ago they had each evolved into different organisms. As the fossil record around this period, evidence is difficult to come by and is still a work very much in progress. There is speculation in one of the articles that their ancestor might go back as far as 500 million years.

I know the Silurian period from fossils I dug near Yea in Victoria, where many were collected but few identified at the time. The Cooksonia plant genus, containing the oldest known land plants could be found there too although I did not come across it.

ORDOVICIAN-SILURIAN EXTINCTION 440 MILLION YEARS AGO
Scientists theorize that there were two main phases to this extinction: a glaciation event and a heating event. Abundant plant life removed carbon dioxide (CO
2) from the air, causing global cooling and glacier formation. This led to a drop in sea levels, reducing habitat. Later came global warming and sea level rising again. Creatures that had adapted to the cooler climate were unable to survive the increased temperature.

The Ordovician–Silurian extinction events, when combined, are the second-largest of the five major extinction events in Earth’s history in terms of percentage of genera that became extinct. Wikipedia
Occurred: 450 million years ago – 440 million years ago
Percent of species extinct: 60% – 70%

Silurian— Devonian period 444 to 419 million years ago
A distinct change in geochemical composition of the sediments of the linograptid “interregnum” as evidence fora short-term shallowing of the upwelling system, which brought nutrient-rich water. This change in graptolite fauna above the LAD of Monograptus transgradiens was,according to Porebska & Sawlowicz (1997), caused by a high productivity of cyanobacteria, which consequently in-creased the level of the anoxic layer. An upwelling of anoxic water was fatal for uniserial, straight monograptid colonies living deeper (close to the base of the mixed layer or near the top of the denitrification zone) than Linograptus populations. A high content of rhenium in sediments of the linograptid “interregnum” is also supporting a decrease in oxygen content of seawater. Porebska & Sawlowicz’s model (1997) also explains the demersal cephalopod species diversity decline as well as its low impact on the diversity of pelagic cephalopods.

So very selective extinctions dependent of where the organisms lived within the water column.

> I know the Silurian period from fossils I dug near Yea in Victoria, where many were collected but few identified at the time. The Cooksonia plant genus, containing the oldest known land plants could be found there too although I did not come across it.

Oh, excellent.

> The Ordovician–Silurian extinction events, when combined, are the second-largest of the five major extinction events in Earth’s history

Yike. I’ll remember that.

> A high content of rhenium in sediments

Weird.

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Date: 3/06/2020 07:30:05
From: roughbarked
ID: 1566588
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

roughbarked said:


PermeateFree said:

roughbarked said:

Nice article may well mean that it reads well without repetitive usage of a misleading cue word.

Fair enough, but where would you place millipedes that the average person would understand. Not an insect, nor an arachnid, so a millipede is a…………?

an arthopod?

r

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Date: 3/06/2020 14:57:41
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1566832
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

Fair enough, but where would you place millipedes that the average person would understand. Not an insect, nor an arachnid, so a millipede is a…………?

an arthopod?

r

Arthropods also include insects and spiders, so that definition is not applicable.

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Date: 3/06/2020 15:08:31
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1566834
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

Right so what is the pseudophyletic term for miners, bats, rays and cnidarians ¿

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Date: 3/06/2020 15:10:56
From: dv
ID: 1566837
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

SCIENCE said:


Right so what is the pseudophyletic term for miners, bats, rays and cnidarians ¿

You know such bastardry will never pass my lips

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Date: 3/06/2020 15:29:21
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1566851
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

SCIENCE said:


Right so what is the pseudophyletic term for miners, bats, rays and cnidarians ¿

You sound peeved, but you have dv to console you.

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Date: 3/06/2020 15:39:12
From: roughbarked
ID: 1566852
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

PermeateFree said:


roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

an arthopod?

r

Arthropods also include insects and spiders, so that definition is not applicable.

An arthropod known as myriapoda is as everyone else knows, a millipede.

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Date: 3/06/2020 15:43:23
From: furious
ID: 1566853
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

Just curious, is there an actual answer to that question?

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Date: 3/06/2020 15:43:59
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1566854
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

roughbarked said:


PermeateFree said:

roughbarked said:

r

Arthropods also include insects and spiders, so that definition is not applicable.

An arthropod known as myriapoda is as everyone else knows, a millipede.

You miss the point, yes myriapoda is an Arthropod, but so is the spider and an insect, so it does not exclusively refer to a millipedes as a group.

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Date: 3/06/2020 15:45:00
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1566855
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

furious said:

  • Right so what is the pseudophyletic term for miners, bats, rays and cnidarians ¿

Just curious, is there an actual answer to that question?

dv knows all about these things. :))

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Date: 3/06/2020 15:46:24
From: Tamb
ID: 1566856
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

furious said:

  • Right so what is the pseudophyletic term for miners, bats, rays and cnidarians ¿

Just curious, is there an actual answer to that question?


Miners H Sapiens. Bats Chiroptera. Rays X. Cnidarians Jellyfish

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Date: 3/06/2020 15:48:19
From: furious
ID: 1566857
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

Tamb said:


furious said:
  • Right so what is the pseudophyletic term for miners, bats, rays and cnidarians ¿

Just curious, is there an actual answer to that question?


Miners H Sapiens. Bats Chiroptera. Rays X. Cnidarians Jellyfish

I thought the question was about one pseudophyletic term that covers them all. And I thought miner was a type of bird…

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Date: 3/06/2020 15:51:10
From: Tamb
ID: 1566859
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

furious said:


Tamb said:

furious said:
  • Right so what is the pseudophyletic term for miners, bats, rays and cnidarians ¿

Just curious, is there an actual answer to that question?


Miners H Sapiens. Bats Chiroptera. Rays X. Cnidarians Jellyfish

I thought the question was about one pseudophyletic term that covers them all. And I thought miner was a type of bird…


You are right & I was being silly But miners are also humans, insects & machines.

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Date: 3/06/2020 15:53:00
From: roughbarked
ID: 1566860
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

PermeateFree said:


roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

Arthropods also include insects and spiders, so that definition is not applicable.

An arthropod known as myriapoda is as everyone else knows, a millipede.

You miss the point, yes myriapoda is an Arthropod, but so is the spider and an insect, so it does not exclusively refer to a millipedes as a group.

Diplopoda
If you were talking about the general populace using bugs to distinguish them from spiders and insects… then it is all a bit silly.

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Date: 3/06/2020 15:56:18
From: dv
ID: 1566861
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

Hey man, PermeateFree, pal, chum, compadre, tovarish…

I think you’ve taken criticism of a minor fault in just one of the articles you posted too personally. We’re not blaming you. This was intrinsically interesting news, thank you for bringing it to our attention.

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Date: 3/06/2020 15:56:40
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1566862
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

roughbarked said:


PermeateFree said:

roughbarked said:

An arthropod known as myriapoda is as everyone else knows, a millipede.

You miss the point, yes myriapoda is an Arthropod, but so is the spider and an insect, so it does not exclusively refer to a millipedes as a group.

Diplopoda
If you were talking about the general populace using bugs to distinguish them from spiders and insects… then it is all a bit silly.

Yes I’m feeling that way myself.

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Date: 3/06/2020 16:01:10
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1566866
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

dv said:


Hey man, PermeateFree, pal, chum, compadre, tovarish…

I think you’ve taken criticism of a minor fault in just one of the articles you posted too personally. We’re not blaming you. This was intrinsically interesting news, thank you for bringing it to our attention.

You patronising dick, go get a life.

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Date: 3/06/2020 16:02:08
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1566867
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

furious said:


Tamb said:

furious said:
  • Right so what is the pseudophyletic term for miners, bats, rays and cnidarians ¿

Just curious, is there an actual answer to that question?


Miners H Sapiens. Bats Chiroptera. Rays X. Cnidarians Jellyfish

I thought the question was about one pseudophyletic term that covers them all. And I thought miner was a type of bird…

well they’re all animals that achieve locomotion through some kind of fluid

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Date: 3/06/2020 16:02:44
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1566869
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

PermeateFree said:


dv said:

Hey man, PermeateFree, pal, chum, compadre, tovarish…

I think you’ve taken criticism of a minor fault in just one of the articles you posted too personally. We’re not blaming you. This was intrinsically interesting news, thank you for bringing it to our attention.

You patronising dick, go get a life.

calumny

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Date: 3/06/2020 16:03:05
From: dv
ID: 1566870
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

PermeateFree said:


dv said:

Hey man, PermeateFree, pal, chum, compadre, tovarish…

I think you’ve taken criticism of a minor fault in just one of the articles you posted too personally. We’re not blaming you. This was intrinsically interesting news, thank you for bringing it to our attention.

You patronising dick, go get a life.

Trying to offer the olive branch , sending out the dove of peace, covered in the mildew of friendship, trying to cover all the domains here.

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Date: 3/06/2020 16:03:20
From: dv
ID: 1566871
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

SCIENCE said:


furious said:

Tamb said:

Miners H Sapiens. Bats Chiroptera. Rays X. Cnidarians Jellyfish

I thought the question was about one pseudophyletic term that covers them all. And I thought miner was a type of bird…

well they’re all animals that achieve locomotion through some kind of fluid

So do I sometimes.

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Date: 3/06/2020 16:04:41
From: Tamb
ID: 1566872
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

dv said:


SCIENCE said:

furious said:

I thought the question was about one pseudophyletic term that covers them all. And I thought miner was a type of bird…

well they’re all animals that achieve locomotion through some kind of fluid

So do I sometimes.


Castor oil will do that.

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Date: 3/06/2020 16:05:31
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1566873
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

dv said:


SCIENCE said:

furious said:

I thought the question was about one pseudophyletic term that covers them all. And I thought miner was a type of bird…

well they’re all animals that achieve locomotion through some kind of fluid

So do I sometimes.

in fairness there are non-Myriapoda with myriad pods too…

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Date: 3/06/2020 16:05:42
From: dv
ID: 1566874
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

Tamb said:


dv said:

SCIENCE said:

well they’re all animals that achieve locomotion through some kind of fluid

So do I sometimes.


Castor oil will do that.

that would be some liquid locomotoring through me

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Date: 3/06/2020 16:07:32
From: dv
ID: 1566875
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

But in all seriousness I think most people know the word millipede…

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Date: 3/06/2020 16:08:52
From: Tamb
ID: 1566876
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

dv said:


But in all seriousness I think most people know the word millipede…

Even if they don’t have 1000 legs.

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Date: 3/06/2020 16:16:10
From: roughbarked
ID: 1566877
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

SCIENCE said:


dv said:

SCIENCE said:

well they’re all animals that achieve locomotion through some kind of fluid

So do I sometimes.

in fairness there are non-Myriapoda with myriad pods too…

:)

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Date: 3/06/2020 16:16:39
From: roughbarked
ID: 1566878
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

dv said:


But in all seriousness I think most people know the word millipede…

I did have that thought myself.

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Date: 3/06/2020 16:17:29
From: roughbarked
ID: 1566879
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

Tamb said:


dv said:

But in all seriousness I think most people know the word millipede…

Even if they don’t have 1000 legs.

Don’t think they ever did. Someone just gave up counting and rounded it out to more than a lot.

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Date: 3/06/2020 16:18:48
From: Tamb
ID: 1566880
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

roughbarked said:


Tamb said:

dv said:

But in all seriousness I think most people know the word millipede…

Even if they don’t have 1000 legs.

Don’t think they ever did. Someone just gave up counting and rounded it out to more than a lot.


True dat.

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Date: 3/06/2020 16:18:48
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1566881
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

dv said:


PermeateFree said:

dv said:

Hey man, PermeateFree, pal, chum, compadre, tovarish…

I think you’ve taken criticism of a minor fault in just one of the articles you posted too personally. We’re not blaming you. This was intrinsically interesting news, thank you for bringing it to our attention.

You patronising dick, go get a life.

Trying to offer the olive branch , sending out the dove of peace, covered in the mildew of friendship, trying to cover all the domains here.

Never trust a Greek bearing gifts.

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Date: 3/06/2020 16:21:32
From: roughbarked
ID: 1566882
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

PermeateFree said:


dv said:

PermeateFree said:

You patronising dick, go get a life.

Trying to offer the olive branch , sending out the dove of peace, covered in the mildew of friendship, trying to cover all the domains here.

Never trust a Greek bearing gifts.

Who said he was Greek?

Though he can be a bit slippery.

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Date: 3/06/2020 16:22:42
From: Michael V
ID: 1566883
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

PermeateFree said:


roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

Arthropods also include insects and spiders, so that definition is not applicable.

An arthropod known as myriapoda is as everyone else knows, a millipede.

You miss the point, yes myriapoda is an Arthropod, but so is the spider and an insect, so it does not exclusively refer to a millipedes as a group.

What’s wrong with “millipedes”. Most people call millipedes “millipedes”.

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Date: 3/06/2020 16:23:00
From: roughbarked
ID: 1566884
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

Tamb said:


roughbarked said:

Tamb said:

Even if they don’t have 1000 legs.

Don’t think they ever did. Someone just gave up counting and rounded it out to more than a lot.


True dat.

Then again he could have been counting the legs of a Polyxenida.

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Date: 3/06/2020 16:23:31
From: roughbarked
ID: 1566885
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

Michael V said:


PermeateFree said:

roughbarked said:

An arthropod known as myriapoda is as everyone else knows, a millipede.

You miss the point, yes myriapoda is an Arthropod, but so is the spider and an insect, so it does not exclusively refer to a millipedes as a group.

What’s wrong with “millipedes”. Most people call millipedes “millipedes”.

Other than those who mistakenly think they are centipedes.

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Date: 3/06/2020 16:24:58
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1566886
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

Well it’s a good job that nobody will ever want to read the topics posted here, so there is little damage done in trashing them. :))

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Date: 3/06/2020 16:26:12
From: Michael V
ID: 1566887
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

SCIENCE said:


PermeateFree said:

dv said:

Hey man, PermeateFree, pal, chum, compadre, tovarish…

I think you’ve taken criticism of a minor fault in just one of the articles you posted too personally. We’re not blaming you. This was intrinsically interesting news, thank you for bringing it to our attention.

You patronising dick, go get a life.

calumny

:)

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Date: 3/06/2020 16:30:00
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1566888
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

Michael V said:


PermeateFree said:

roughbarked said:

An arthropod known as myriapoda is as everyone else knows, a millipede.

You miss the point, yes myriapoda is an Arthropod, but so is the spider and an insect, so it does not exclusively refer to a millipedes as a group.

What’s wrong with “millipedes”. Most people call millipedes “millipedes”.

Go read the OP if you are sufficiently interested, because I am not. I will only say that I have written about this group and it is difficult to do so. Something you need to try for yourselves because I have had it with all the silly remarks from the armchair experts around here.

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Date: 3/06/2020 16:32:14
From: roughbarked
ID: 1566889
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

PermeateFree said:


Michael V said:

PermeateFree said:

You miss the point, yes myriapoda is an Arthropod, but so is the spider and an insect, so it does not exclusively refer to a millipedes as a group.

What’s wrong with “millipedes”. Most people call millipedes “millipedes”.

Go read the OP if you are sufficiently interested, because I am not. I will only say that I have written about this group and it is difficult to do so. Something you need to try for yourselves because I have had it with all the silly remarks from the armchair experts around here.

So which chair do you use?

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Date: 3/06/2020 16:33:09
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1566890
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

Michael V said:


SCIENCE said:

PermeateFree said:

You patronising dick, go get a life.

calumny

:)

Yes he has been very busy with the Thesaurus. Bet his copy is very well thumbed.

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Date: 3/06/2020 16:33:32
From: roughbarked
ID: 1566891
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

dv said:


This was intrinsically interesting news, thank you for bringing it to our attention.

+1

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Date: 3/06/2020 16:34:10
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1566892
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

roughbarked said:


PermeateFree said:

Michael V said:

What’s wrong with “millipedes”. Most people call millipedes “millipedes”.

Go read the OP if you are sufficiently interested, because I am not. I will only say that I have written about this group and it is difficult to do so. Something you need to try for yourselves because I have had it with all the silly remarks from the armchair experts around here.

So which chair do you use?

Go away roughy, I have not the patience for you right now.

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Date: 3/06/2020 16:35:12
From: dv
ID: 1566894
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

Look, circling back a bit…

Normally headlines like to present the most striking piece of information.

Like when YG went into orbit, the papers didn’t describe him as “The First Short Man From The Soviet Union In Space”. Narrowing the scope makes the record less interesting.

So saying that this particular thing is “The Oldest Millipede Fossil” or “The Oldest Arthropod Fossil” is less interesting and impressive than going as wide as possible, by saying it is “The Oldest Land Animal Fossil”.

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Date: 3/06/2020 16:35:30
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1566895
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

This thread seems to be trending, can I help with anything?

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Date: 3/06/2020 16:36:26
From: dv
ID: 1566896
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

Peak Warming Man said:


This thread seems to be trending, can I help with anything?

I give you Plato’s Man.

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Date: 3/06/2020 16:36:56
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1566899
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

dv said:


Look, circling back a bit…

Normally headlines like to present the most striking piece of information.

Like when YG went into orbit, the papers didn’t describe him as “The First Short Man From The Soviet Union In Space”. Narrowing the scope makes the record less interesting.

So saying that this particular thing is “The Oldest Millipede Fossil” or “The Oldest Arthropod Fossil” is less interesting and impressive than going as wide as possible, by saying it is “The Oldest Land Animal Fossil”.

Haven’t you got a family to look after?

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Date: 3/06/2020 16:37:25
From: Arts
ID: 1566900
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

Peak Warming Man said:


This thread seems to be trending, can I help with anything?

please, make another bowl of popcorn.

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Date: 3/06/2020 16:38:10
From: Michael V
ID: 1566901
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

PermeateFree said:


Michael V said:

PermeateFree said:

You miss the point, yes myriapoda is an Arthropod, but so is the spider and an insect, so it does not exclusively refer to a millipedes as a group.

What’s wrong with “millipedes”. Most people call millipedes “millipedes”.

Go read the OP if you are sufficiently interested, because I am not. I will only say that I have written about this group and it is difficult to do so. Something you need to try for yourselves because I have had it with all the silly remarks from the armchair experts around here.

Thanks.

I did read the opening post, and I posted a picture of the millipede along with more, and more succinct informtion (published elsewhere) and I read other stuff on it as well, including the original scientists comments about the zircon extraction developed by an undergraduate student.

I didn’t involve myself in the discussion, until I thought that more than enough was more than enough.

I’m sorry you see my contributions as a silly remarks from an armchair expert.

:(

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Date: 3/06/2020 16:38:54
From: Michael V
ID: 1566903
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

PermeateFree said:


Michael V said:

SCIENCE said:

calumny

:)

Yes he has been very busy with the Thesaurus. Bet his copy is very well thumbed.

I’d not been introduced to the word before.

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Date: 3/06/2020 16:39:29
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1566904
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

Michael V said:


PermeateFree said:

Michael V said:

What’s wrong with “millipedes”. Most people call millipedes “millipedes”.

Go read the OP if you are sufficiently interested, because I am not. I will only say that I have written about this group and it is difficult to do so. Something you need to try for yourselves because I have had it with all the silly remarks from the armchair experts around here.

Thanks.

I did read the opening post, and I posted a picture of the millipede along with more, and more succinct informtion (published elsewhere) and I read other stuff on it as well, including the original scientists comments about the zircon extraction developed by an undergraduate student.

I didn’t involve myself in the discussion, until I thought that more than enough was more than enough.

I’m sorry you see my contributions as a silly remarks from an armchair expert.

:(

Stop playing the martyr.

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Date: 3/06/2020 16:41:42
From: Michael V
ID: 1566907
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

PermeateFree said:


Michael V said:

PermeateFree said:

Go read the OP if you are sufficiently interested, because I am not. I will only say that I have written about this group and it is difficult to do so. Something you need to try for yourselves because I have had it with all the silly remarks from the armchair experts around here.

Thanks.

I did read the opening post, and I posted a picture of the millipede along with more, and more succinct informtion (published elsewhere) and I read other stuff on it as well, including the original scientists comments about the zircon extraction developed by an undergraduate student.

I didn’t involve myself in the discussion, until I thought that more than enough was more than enough.

I’m sorry you see my contributions as a silly remarks from an armchair expert.

:(

Stop playing the martyr.

Stop playing the angry man that everybody gangs up on.

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Date: 3/06/2020 16:45:32
From: dv
ID: 1566914
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

PermeateFree said:


dv said:

Look, circling back a bit…

Normally headlines like to present the most striking piece of information.

Like when YG went into orbit, the papers didn’t describe him as “The First Short Man From The Soviet Union In Space”. Narrowing the scope makes the record less interesting.

So saying that this particular thing is “The Oldest Millipede Fossil” or “The Oldest Arthropod Fossil” is less interesting and impressive than going as wide as possible, by saying it is “The Oldest Land Animal Fossil”.

Haven’t you got a family to look after?

Yes but they are otherwise occupied at present. Nonetheless, I thank you for your concern, no matter how stalkerish.

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Date: 3/06/2020 16:51:24
From: dv
ID: 1566917
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

Take a look at this marvelous piece by Nicolas-Quinibert Foliot.

Now that man was an armchair expert.

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Date: 3/06/2020 16:52:25
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1566918
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

Michael V said:


PermeateFree said:

Michael V said:

Thanks.

I did read the opening post, and I posted a picture of the millipede along with more, and more succinct informtion (published elsewhere) and I read other stuff on it as well, including the original scientists comments about the zircon extraction developed by an undergraduate student.

I didn’t involve myself in the discussion, until I thought that more than enough was more than enough.

I’m sorry you see my contributions as a silly remarks from an armchair expert.

:(

Stop playing the martyr.

Stop playing the angry man that everybody gangs up on.

Well this is the second thread that has been trashed on the same petty little subject. Just goes to show the scientific interest here. Give them something simple to chew on, preferably presented in less than 3 lines of text and everyone wants to comment. Give them science topic and hardly anyone comments, except if there is a minor disagreement over presentation and everyone want their say, especially after being egged on by certain vindictive people who think it funny that they can stir up so much trouble.

Well fine, I know the score is, but I’ll still post scientific topics, not now to educate the ignorant, but for my own benefit and to annoy those who would wish me gone.

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Date: 3/06/2020 16:55:34
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1566922
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

dv said:


PermeateFree said:

dv said:

Look, circling back a bit…

Normally headlines like to present the most striking piece of information.

Like when YG went into orbit, the papers didn’t describe him as “The First Short Man From The Soviet Union In Space”. Narrowing the scope makes the record less interesting.

So saying that this particular thing is “The Oldest Millipede Fossil” or “The Oldest Arthropod Fossil” is less interesting and impressive than going as wide as possible, by saying it is “The Oldest Land Animal Fossil”.

Haven’t you got a family to look after?

Yes but they are otherwise occupied at present. Nonetheless, I thank you for your concern, no matter how stalkerish.

They mostly seem to be otherwise occupied, hence your overbearing presence. Tell me who would want to stalk you and your neglected family?

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Date: 3/06/2020 17:01:38
From: dv
ID: 1566927
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

PermeateFree said:


dv said:

PermeateFree said:

Haven’t you got a family to look after?

Yes but they are otherwise occupied at present. Nonetheless, I thank you for your concern, no matter how stalkerish.

They mostly seem to be otherwise occupied, hence your overbearing presence. Tell me who would want to stalk you and your neglected family?

You seem to be a constantly lonely and angry man, PermeateFree. Irascibility is where you hide your pain. SAD.

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Date: 3/06/2020 17:21:14
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1566939
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

dv said:


PermeateFree said:

dv said:

Yes but they are otherwise occupied at present. Nonetheless, I thank you for your concern, no matter how stalkerish.

They mostly seem to be otherwise occupied, hence your overbearing presence. Tell me who would want to stalk you and your neglected family?

You seem to be a constantly lonely and angry man, PermeateFree. Irascibility is where you hide your pain. SAD.

I am more than happy in my isolation, it is arseholes like you that piss me off. You should try it sometime and you might find there is more satisfaction than political gossip and trivia. You really do waste your life and do so because you know no better.

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Date: 3/06/2020 17:25:18
From: Cymek
ID: 1566942
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

PermeateFree said:


dv said:

PermeateFree said:

They mostly seem to be otherwise occupied, hence your overbearing presence. Tell me who would want to stalk you and your neglected family?

You seem to be a constantly lonely and angry man, PermeateFree. Irascibility is where you hide your pain. SAD.

I am more than happy in my isolation, it is arseholes like you that piss me off. You should try it sometime and you might find there is more satisfaction than political gossip and trivia. You really do waste your life and do so because you know no better.

That’s not very nice from either of you

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Date: 3/06/2020 17:25:29
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1566943
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

wait are we still talking about Silurian Period Facts about its Climate, Animals & Plants, like … an upright stalk … a few centimeters high with … small bulbous tips ¿ or has the conversation moved onto something else

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Date: 3/06/2020 17:27:26
From: dv
ID: 1566944
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

Cymek said:


PermeateFree said:

dv said:

You seem to be a constantly lonely and angry man, PermeateFree. Irascibility is where you hide your pain. SAD.

I am more than happy in my isolation, it is arseholes like you that piss me off. You should try it sometime and you might find there is more satisfaction than political gossip and trivia. You really do waste your life and do so because you know no better.

That’s not very nice from either of you

Consider me chastened, Cymek. My branch was returned burnt, the dove roasted, the mildew silenced with the peroxide of contempt.

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Date: 3/06/2020 17:31:48
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1566946
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

dv said:


Cymek said:

PermeateFree said:

I am more than happy in my isolation, it is arseholes like you that piss me off. You should try it sometime and you might find there is more satisfaction than political gossip and trivia. You really do waste your life and do so because you know no better.

That’s not very nice from either of you

Consider me chastened, Cymek. My branch was returned burnt, the dove roasted, the mildew silenced with the peroxide of contempt.

we prefer to call them a bunch of hypochlorites

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Date: 3/06/2020 17:34:28
From: dv
ID: 1566947
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

SCIENCE said:


wait are we still talking about Silurian Period Facts about its Climate, Animals & Plants, like … an upright stalk … a few centimeters high with … small bulbous tips ¿ or has the conversation moved onto something else

That’s exactly what we’re talking about. Certainly we are not talking about the creatures from Doctor Who. As you probably know the Silurian period began after a major extinction event. About half of all genera disappeared from the seas. Happy to say that things bounced back quite well (as they tend to do). The first bony fish appeared in the Silurian and we all know how that went.

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Date: 3/06/2020 17:41:59
From: The-Spectator
ID: 1566950
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

dv said:


PermeateFree said:

dv said:

Yes but they are otherwise occupied at present. Nonetheless, I thank you for your concern, no matter how stalkerish.

They mostly seem to be otherwise occupied, hence your overbearing presence. Tell me who would want to stalk you and your neglected family?

You seem to be a constantly lonely and angry man, PermeateFree. Irascibility is where you hide your pain. SAD.

PF being his usual self I see

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Date: 3/06/2020 17:51:01
From: dv
ID: 1566953
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

The-Spectator said:


dv said:

PermeateFree said:

They mostly seem to be otherwise occupied, hence your overbearing presence. Tell me who would want to stalk you and your neglected family?

You seem to be a constantly lonely and angry man, PermeateFree. Irascibility is where you hide your pain. SAD.

PF being his usual self I see

I’m a little annoyed that he succeeded in dragging me down to his level, but I was unnerved by his creepy-crawly fascination with my family.

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Date: 3/06/2020 18:05:49
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1566958
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

dv said:


SCIENCE said:

wait are we still talking about Silurian Period Facts about its Climate, Animals & Plants, like … an upright stalk … a few centimeters high with … small bulbous tips ¿ or has the conversation moved onto something else

That’s exactly what we’re talking about. Certainly we are not talking about the creatures from Doctor Who. As you probably know the Silurian period began after a major extinction event. About half of all genera disappeared from the seas. Happy to say that things bounced back quite well (as they tend to do). The first bony fish appeared in the Silurian and we all know how that went.

I did answer this and more in a reply to moll, just goes to show the extent of your interest. But I have known that for some time. Stick to your trivia dv, you are much better at that.

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Date: 3/06/2020 18:07:34
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1566959
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

The-Spectator said:


dv said:

PermeateFree said:

They mostly seem to be otherwise occupied, hence your overbearing presence. Tell me who would want to stalk you and your neglected family?

You seem to be a constantly lonely and angry man, PermeateFree. Irascibility is where you hide your pain. SAD.

PF being his usual self I see

You should be hung, drawn and quartered. And if they are looking for someone to do it, I am willing to pay for the privilege.

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Date: 3/06/2020 18:09:33
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1566961
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

dv said:


The-Spectator said:

dv said:

You seem to be a constantly lonely and angry man, PermeateFree. Irascibility is where you hide your pain. SAD.

PF being his usual self I see

I’m a little annoyed that he succeeded in dragging me down to his level, but I was unnerved by his creepy-crawly fascination with my family.

Demonising as usual dv. You should live under a rock if you don’t already. :)))

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Date: 4/06/2020 08:46:37
From: roughbarked
ID: 1567106
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

PermeateFree said:


roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

Go read the OP if you are sufficiently interested, because I am not. I will only say that I have written about this group and it is difficult to do so. Something you need to try for yourselves because I have had it with all the silly remarks from the armchair experts around here.

So which chair do you use?

Go away roughy, I have not the patience for you right now.

Gave you a few hours relief. Feel better now?

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Date: 4/06/2020 08:47:53
From: roughbarked
ID: 1567107
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

dv said:


Look, circling back a bit…

Normally headlines like to present the most striking piece of information.

Like when YG went into orbit, the papers didn’t describe him as “The First Short Man From The Soviet Union In Space”. Narrowing the scope makes the record less interesting.

So saying that this particular thing is “The Oldest Millipede Fossil” or “The Oldest Arthropod Fossil” is less interesting and impressive than going as wide as possible, by saying it is “The Oldest Land Animal Fossil”.


Has anyone noticed we are talking in this thread, about a different thread?

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Date: 4/06/2020 08:52:43
From: roughbarked
ID: 1567109
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

PermeateFree said:


Michael V said:

PermeateFree said:

Stop playing the martyr.

Stop playing the angry man that everybody gangs up on.

Well this is the second thread that has been trashed on the same petty little subject. Just goes to show the scientific interest here. Give them something simple to chew on, preferably presented in less than 3 lines of text and everyone wants to comment. Give them science topic and hardly anyone comments, except if there is a minor disagreement over presentation and everyone want their say, especially after being egged on by certain vindictive people who think it funny that they can stir up so much trouble.

Well fine, I know the score is, but I’ll still post scientific topics, not now to educate the ignorant, but for my own benefit and to annoy those who would wish me gone.

Nobody wishes anything of the sort. What we all wish is that you will take all of the science on board and forget the personal injury you seem to take onboard at any lighthearted guff.

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Date: 4/06/2020 09:14:05
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1567121
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

roughbarked said:


PermeateFree said:

Michael V said:

Stop playing the angry man that everybody gangs up on.

Well this is the second thread that has been trashed on the same petty little subject. Just goes to show the scientific interest here. Give them something simple to chew on, preferably presented in less than 3 lines of text and everyone wants to comment. Give them science topic and hardly anyone comments, except if there is a minor disagreement over presentation and everyone want their say, especially after being egged on by certain vindictive people who think it funny that they can stir up so much trouble.

Well fine, I know the score is, but I’ll still post scientific topics, not now to educate the ignorant, but for my own benefit and to annoy those who would wish me gone.

Nobody wishes anything of the sort. What we all wish is that you will take all of the science on board and forget the personal injury you seem to take onboard at any lighthearted guff.

There’s a SCIENCE behind that too ¡

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Date: 4/06/2020 09:15:54
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1567124
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

this 車 chair

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Date: 4/06/2020 09:33:53
From: dv
ID: 1567141
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

roughbarked said:


dv said:

Look, circling back a bit…

Normally headlines like to present the most striking piece of information.

Like when YG went into orbit, the papers didn’t describe him as “The First Short Man From The Soviet Union In Space”. Narrowing the scope makes the record less interesting.

So saying that this particular thing is “The Oldest Millipede Fossil” or “The Oldest Arthropod Fossil” is less interesting and impressive than going as wide as possible, by saying it is “The Oldest Land Animal Fossil”.


Has anyone noticed we are talking in this thread, about a different thread?

Yes. Perm relitigated here.

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Date: 4/06/2020 13:56:09
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1567435
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

roughbarked said:


PermeateFree said:

roughbarked said:

So which chair do you use?

Go away roughy, I have not the patience for you right now.

Gave you a few hours relief. Feel better now?

Not really, you are just part of the furniture.

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Date: 4/06/2020 13:57:12
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1567436
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

PermeateFree said:


roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

Go away roughy, I have not the patience for you right now.

Gave you a few hours relief. Feel better now?

Not really, you are just part of the furniture.

right that’s it we’re calling time on this one

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Date: 4/06/2020 13:57:17
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1567437
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

roughbarked said:


dv said:

Look, circling back a bit…

Normally headlines like to present the most striking piece of information.

Like when YG went into orbit, the papers didn’t describe him as “The First Short Man From The Soviet Union In Space”. Narrowing the scope makes the record less interesting.

So saying that this particular thing is “The Oldest Millipede Fossil” or “The Oldest Arthropod Fossil” is less interesting and impressive than going as wide as possible, by saying it is “The Oldest Land Animal Fossil”.


Has anyone noticed we are talking in this thread, about a different thread?

Yes and you started it, from a remark I made to dv.

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Date: 4/06/2020 13:58:17
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1567440
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

roughbarked said:


PermeateFree said:

Michael V said:

Stop playing the angry man that everybody gangs up on.

Well this is the second thread that has been trashed on the same petty little subject. Just goes to show the scientific interest here. Give them something simple to chew on, preferably presented in less than 3 lines of text and everyone wants to comment. Give them science topic and hardly anyone comments, except if there is a minor disagreement over presentation and everyone want their say, especially after being egged on by certain vindictive people who think it funny that they can stir up so much trouble.

Well fine, I know the score is, but I’ll still post scientific topics, not now to educate the ignorant, but for my own benefit and to annoy those who would wish me gone.

Nobody wishes anything of the sort. What we all wish is that you will take all of the science on board and forget the personal injury you seem to take onboard at any lighthearted guff.

And you would know? I don’t think they include you in the loop.

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Date: 4/06/2020 13:59:54
From: roughbarked
ID: 1567442
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

PermeateFree said:


roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

Well this is the second thread that has been trashed on the same petty little subject. Just goes to show the scientific interest here. Give them something simple to chew on, preferably presented in less than 3 lines of text and everyone wants to comment. Give them science topic and hardly anyone comments, except if there is a minor disagreement over presentation and everyone want their say, especially after being egged on by certain vindictive people who think it funny that they can stir up so much trouble.

Well fine, I know the score is, but I’ll still post scientific topics, not now to educate the ignorant, but for my own benefit and to annoy those who would wish me gone.

Nobody wishes anything of the sort. What we all wish is that you will take all of the science on board and forget the personal injury you seem to take onboard at any lighthearted guff.

And you would know? I don’t think they include you in the loop.

It’s a rubber band.

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Date: 4/06/2020 14:00:40
From: roughbarked
ID: 1567443
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

PermeateFree said:


roughbarked said:

dv said:

Look, circling back a bit…

Normally headlines like to present the most striking piece of information.

Like when YG went into orbit, the papers didn’t describe him as “The First Short Man From The Soviet Union In Space”. Narrowing the scope makes the record less interesting.

So saying that this particular thing is “The Oldest Millipede Fossil” or “The Oldest Arthropod Fossil” is less interesting and impressive than going as wide as possible, by saying it is “The Oldest Land Animal Fossil”.


Has anyone noticed we are talking in this thread, about a different thread?

Yes and you started it, from a remark I made to dv.

Here’s where it started…

roughbarked said:


PermeateFree said:

dv said:

Nice article

Pleased you don’t have more petty issues with an oddly used word.

Nice article may well mean that it reads well without repetitive usage of a misleading cue word.

So now, who started it?

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Date: 4/06/2020 14:01:21
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1567444
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

PermeateFree said:


roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

Well this is the second thread that has been trashed on the same petty little subject. Just goes to show the scientific interest here. Give them something simple to chew on, preferably presented in less than 3 lines of text and everyone wants to comment. Give them science topic and hardly anyone comments, except if there is a minor disagreement over presentation and everyone want their say, especially after being egged on by certain vindictive people who think it funny that they can stir up so much trouble.

Well fine, I know the score is, but I’ll still post scientific topics, not now to educate the ignorant, but for my own benefit and to annoy those who would wish me gone.

Nobody wishes anything of the sort. What we all wish is that you will take all of the science on board and forget the personal injury you seem to take onboard at any lighthearted guff.

And you would know? I don’t think they include you in the loop.

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Date: 4/06/2020 14:01:47
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1567446
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

roughbarked said:


PermeateFree said:

roughbarked said:

Nobody wishes anything of the sort. What we all wish is that you will take all of the science on board and forget the personal injury you seem to take onboard at any lighthearted guff.

And you would know? I don’t think they include you in the loop.

It’s a rubber band.

know its knot

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Date: 4/06/2020 14:02:08
From: roughbarked
ID: 1567448
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

roughbarked said:


PermeateFree said:

roughbarked said:

Pleased you don’t have more petty issues with an oddly used word.

Nice article may well mean that it reads well without repetitive usage of a misleading cue word.

So now, who started it?

and neither of the articles were written by you yet you seemed to think you were being attacked.

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Date: 4/06/2020 14:08:21
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1567462
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

roughbarked said:
dv said:
Look, circling back a bit…

Normally headlines like to present the most striking piece of information.

Like when YG went into orbit, the papers didn’t describe him as “The First Short Man From The Soviet Union In Space”. Narrowing the scope makes the record less interesting.

So saying that this particular thing is “The Oldest Millipede Fossil” or “The Oldest Arthropod Fossil” is less interesting and impressive than going as wide as possible, by saying it is “The Oldest Land Animal Fossil”.

Has anyone noticed we are talking in this thread, about a different thread?

Yes and you started it, from a remark I made to dv.

Here’s where it started…

roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:
dv said:

Nice article

Pleased you don’t have more petty issues with an oddly used word.

Nice article may well mean that it reads well without repetitive usage of a misleading cue word.

So now, who started it?

Chicken … Egg … Bug Millipede Kampecaris obanensis

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Date: 4/06/2020 14:16:58
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1567468
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

roughbarked said:


PermeateFree said:

roughbarked said:

Pleased you don’t have more petty issues with an oddly used word.

Nice article may well mean that it reads well without repetitive usage of a misleading cue word.

So now, who started it?

Read the next line written by you

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Date: 4/06/2020 14:20:56
From: roughbarked
ID: 1567478
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

PermeateFree said:


roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

Nice article may well mean that it reads well without repetitive usage of a misleading cue word.

So now, who started it?

Read the next line written by you

It was started the line before but anyway, cheese and chalk. It could easily have stopped there or never started.

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Date: 4/06/2020 14:22:05
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1567482
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

roughbarked said:


PermeateFree said:

roughbarked said:

So now, who started it?

Read the next line written by you

It was started the line before but anyway, cheese and chalk. It could easily have stopped there or never started.

Go away please!

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Date: 4/06/2020 14:22:55
From: roughbarked
ID: 1567485
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

PermeateFree said:


roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

Read the next line written by you

It was started the line before but anyway, cheese and chalk. It could easily have stopped there or never started.

Go away please!

If you stopped calling me back, that could well occur.

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Date: 4/06/2020 14:36:02
From: dv
ID: 1567496
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

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Date: 4/06/2020 14:50:30
From: dv
ID: 1567506
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

Quite alarming.

A 23 m.y. record of low atmospheric CO2

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Date: 4/06/2020 15:05:20
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1567529
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

dv said:


Quite alarming.

A 23 m.y. record of low atmospheric CO2

Your session has timed out. Please go back to the article page and click the PDF link again.

I was just wanting to check when that was published.

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Date: 4/06/2020 15:13:20
From: dv
ID: 1567544
Subject: re: Silurian Period Facts: Climate, Animals & Plants

The Rev Dodgson said:


dv said:

Quite alarming.

A 23 m.y. record of low atmospheric CO2

Your session has timed out. Please go back to the article page and click the PDF link again.

I was just wanting to check when that was published.

RESEARCH ARTICLE| MAY 29, 2020
A 23 m.y. record of low atmospheric CO2
Ying Cui; Brian A. Schubert; A. Hope Jahren
Geology (2020)
https://doi.org/10.1130/G47681.1
Article history

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