If it was legalised, it would be taxed at the same rate as tobacco of course
95c per cigarette.
$1,310 per kg.

At that tax rate, would anyone buy the legal stuff?

mollwollfumble said:

If it was legalised, it would be taxed at the same rate as tobacco of course
95c per cigarette.
$1,310 per kg.

At that tax rate, would anyone buy the legal stuff?

At that tax rate, is there a booming trade in illegal tobacco?

I mean, i know that people try to smuggle in containerloads of ciggies, but is there that much of a demand that it’s really worth the effort?

captain_spalding said:

mollwollfumble said:

If it was legalised, it would be taxed at the same rate as tobacco of course
95c per cigarette.
$1,310 per kg.

At that tax rate, would anyone buy the legal stuff?

At that tax rate, is there a booming trade in illegal tobacco?

I mean, i know that people try to smuggle in containerloads of ciggies, but is there that much of a demand that it’s really worth the effort?

how many ounces in a kilo?

sarahs mum said:

captain_spalding said:

mollwollfumble said:

If it was legalised, it would be taxed at the same rate as tobacco of course
95c per cigarette.
$1,310 per kg.

At that tax rate, would anyone buy the legal stuff?

At that tax rate, is there a booming trade in illegal tobacco?

I mean, i know that people try to smuggle in containerloads of ciggies, but is there that much of a demand that it’s really worth the effort?

how many ounces in a kilo?

1kg = 2.2 lbs.

1kg = 35 ounces.

captain_spalding said:

sarahs mum said:

captain_spalding said:

At that tax rate, is there a booming trade in illegal tobacco?

I mean, i know that people try to smuggle in containerloads of ciggies, but is there that much of a demand that it’s really worth the effort?

how many ounces in a kilo?

1kg = 2.2 lbs.

1kg = 35 ounces.

retail price for an Oz is probably around $300-400 depending where you live, quality and if you know the seller.

I’d imagine most tobacco smokers buy the legal stuff, despite the cost.

mollwollfumble said:

If it was legalised, it would be taxed at the same rate as tobacco of course
95c per cigarette.
$1,310 per kg.

At that tax rate, would anyone buy the legal stuff?

There are lots of places where personal use is legalised.

Just saying.

Bogsnorkler said:

captain_spalding said:

sarahs mum said:

how many ounces in a kilo?

1kg = 2.2 lbs.

1kg = 35 ounces.

retail price for an Oz is probably around $300-400 depending where you live, quality and if you know the seller.

This amazes me. It’s so easy to grow that even hard-core dope smokers can do it.

Bogsnorkler said:

captain_spalding said:

sarahs mum said:

how many ounces in a kilo?

1kg = 2.2 lbs.

1kg = 35 ounces.

retail price for an Oz is probably around $300-400 depending where you live, quality and if you know the seller.

I’d have said $250 – $350 for medicinal grade, depending on circumstances.

captain_spalding said:

mollwollfumble said:

If it was legalised, it would be taxed at the same rate as tobacco of course
95c per cigarette.
$1,310 per kg.

At that tax rate, would anyone buy the legal stuff?

At that tax rate, is there a booming trade in illegal tobacco?

I mean, i know that people try to smuggle in containerloads of ciggies, but is there that much of a demand that it’s really worth the effort?

For the potential prison sentence you’re much better off going for cocaine, risk reward etc.

So Moll’s returns are not high enough. It would sell out and then the growers would down tools.

mollwollfumble said:

If it was legalised, it would be taxed at the same rate as tobacco of course
95c per cigarette.
$1,310 per kg.

At that tax rate, would anyone buy the legal stuff?

It is legal…

for 10mL of CBD oil it’s ~$300

for 10mL of THC+CBD oil it’s about $350

Anyway, smoking anything is so passé .

Marks you out as some sort of Neanderthal.

The whole idea of rolling shredded leave in paper and inhaling the fumes is ridiculous. Always has been.

If you haven’t heard it before listen to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO1nCuVQIeg

I wish I had some marijuana.. that’s exactly what my mind needs right now… fuzziness.

Arts said:

I wish I had some marijuana.. that’s exactly what my mind needs right now… fuzziness.

Just join the Liberal Party. Or the Labor Party.

It’s their default state of mind these days.

captain_spalding said:

Arts said:

I wish I had some marijuana.. that’s exactly what my mind needs right now… fuzziness.

Just join the Liberal Party. Or the Labor Party.

It’s their default state of mind these days.

meh. seems like a lot of work.

Arts said:

I wish I had some marijuana.. that’s exactly what my mind needs right now… fuzziness.

Is personal use legal in WA?

Rule 303 said:

Arts said:

I wish I had some marijuana.. that’s exactly what my mind needs right now… fuzziness.

Is personal use legal in WA?

nope.

Arts said:

Rule 303 said:

Arts said:

I wish I had some marijuana.. that’s exactly what my mind needs right now… fuzziness.

Is personal use legal in WA?

nope.

we can blame Barnett for that.. he thinks that marijuana use will lead to harder drug use… so instead of smoking a doob, WA’s drug loving population use ice… which is nice for us.

Arts said:

Rule 303 said:

Arts said:

I wish I had some marijuana.. that’s exactly what my mind needs right now… fuzziness.

Is personal use legal in WA?

nope.

Hmmm… It’s weird that the states are allowed to make their own rules on some things but not others. Even more weird that municipalities are allowed to make their own rules about similar things.

>scratches head<

I don’t know where I’m going with this.

Arts said:

Arts said:

Rule 303 said:

Is personal use legal in WA?

nope.

we can blame Barnett for that.. he thinks that marijuana use will lead to harder drug use… so instead of smoking a doob, WA’s drug loving population use ice… which is nice for us.

Yeah, the old ‘thin end of the trumpet’ argument.

Rule 303 said:

Arts said:

Rule 303 said:

Is personal use legal in WA?

nope.

Hmmm… It’s weird that the states are allowed to make their own rules on some things but not others. Even more weird that municipalities are allowed to make their own rules about similar things.

>scratches head<

I don’t know where I’m going with this.

as long as you are on a journey the destination does not matter.

mollwollfumble said:

If it was legalised, it would be taxed at the same rate as tobacco of course
95c per cigarette.
$1,310 per kg.

At that tax rate, would anyone buy the legal stuff?

Cigarettes are a different product so why should it incur the same tax?

Marijuana should have its own tax rate, separate from cigarettes.

Its tax rate should be in line with its harm rate.

Are the tax rates for cigarettes in line with its harm rate?

If not I would like to see this with cigarettes and alcohol.

Bogsnorkler said:

Rule 303 said:

Arts said:

nope.

Hmmm… It’s weird that the states are allowed to make their own rules on some things but not others. Even more weird that municipalities are allowed to make their own rules about similar things.

>scratches head<

I don’t know where I’m going with this.

as long as you are on a journey the destination does not matter.

sorry i should attribute that…

Old Jungle saying.

Bogsnorkler said:

Rule 303 said:

Arts said:

nope.

Hmmm… It’s weird that the states are allowed to make their own rules on some things but not others. Even more weird that municipalities are allowed to make their own rules about similar things.

>scratches head<

I don’t know where I’m going with this.

as long as you are on a journey the destination does not matter.

Nice one, Frodo.

:-)

Tau.Neutrino said:

mollwollfumble said:

If it was legalised, it would be taxed at the same rate as tobacco of course
95c per cigarette.
$1,310 per kg.

At that tax rate, would anyone buy the legal stuff?

Cigarettes are a different product so why should it incur the same tax?

Marijuana should have its own tax rate, separate from cigarettes.

Its tax rate should be in line with its harm rate.

Are the tax rates for cigarettes in line with its harm rate?

If not I would like to see this with cigarettes and alcohol.

Is anything taxed in proportion to the harm it causes?

Tau.Neutrino said:

mollwollfumble said:

If it was legalised, it would be taxed at the same rate as tobacco of course
95c per cigarette.
$1,310 per kg.

At that tax rate, would anyone buy the legal stuff?

Cigarettes are a different product so why should it incur the same tax?

Marijuana should have its own tax rate, separate from cigarettes.

Its tax rate should be in line with its harm rate.

Are the tax rates for cigarettes in line with its harm rate?

If not I would like to see this with cigarettes and alcohol.

Products that harm

Cigarettes tax rate gets set to its harm rate,
Cannabis tax rate set to its harm rate,
Alcohol tax rate set to its harm rate,

Which would all be different.

Does that make sense ?

captain_spalding said:

Anyway, smoking anything is so passé .

Marks you out as some sort of Neanderthal.

The whole idea of rolling shredded leave in paper and inhaling the fumes is ridiculous. Always has been.

If you haven’t heard it before listen to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO1nCuVQIeg

Shove it up my nose? I’ve never considered that route.

Rule 303 said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

mollwollfumble said:

If it was legalised, it would be taxed at the same rate as tobacco of course
95c per cigarette.
$1,310 per kg.

At that tax rate, would anyone buy the legal stuff?

Cigarettes are a different product so why should it incur the same tax?

Marijuana should have its own tax rate, separate from cigarettes.

Its tax rate should be in line with its harm rate.

Are the tax rates for cigarettes in line with its harm rate?

If not I would like to see this with cigarettes and alcohol.

Is anything taxed in proportion to the harm it causes?

This is what I’m suggesting, that products that harm should be taxed to the healths cost that they incur.

notable products that harm, free free to discuss others.

Alcohol
Cigarettes
Cannabis

mollwollfumble said:

If it was legalised, it would be taxed at the same rate as tobacco of course
95c per cigarette.
$1,310 per kg.

At that tax rate, would anyone buy the legal stuff?

Not everyone likes marijuana

dv said:

mollwollfumble said:

If it was legalised, it would be taxed at the same rate as tobacco of course
95c per cigarette.
$1,310 per kg.

At that tax rate, would anyone buy the legal stuff?

Not everyone likes marijuana

That’s the ketamine talking.

dv said:

mollwollfumble said:

If it was legalised, it would be taxed at the same rate as tobacco of course
95c per cigarette.
$1,310 per kg.

At that tax rate, would anyone buy the legal stuff?

Not everyone likes marijuana

Not everyone like cigarettes etc

dv said:

mollwollfumble said:

If it was legalised, it would be taxed at the same rate as tobacco of course
95c per cigarette.
$1,310 per kg.

At that tax rate, would anyone buy the legal stuff?

Not everyone likes marijuana

Yeah, with apologies to our dope fans, I’ve gotta say it’s never done anything much for me.

Witty Rejoinder said:

dv said:

mollwollfumble said:

If it was legalised, it would be taxed at the same rate as tobacco of course
95c per cigarette.
$1,310 per kg.

At that tax rate, would anyone buy the legal stuff?

Not everyone likes marijuana

That’s the ketamine talking.

I’m not taking ketamine. My diet is mostly lean meat, fruit and vegetables, and fuckin’ bran.

Rule 303 said:

dv said:

mollwollfumble said:

If it was legalised, it would be taxed at the same rate as tobacco of course
95c per cigarette.
$1,310 per kg.

At that tax rate, would anyone buy the legal stuff?

Not everyone likes marijuana

Yeah, with apologies to our dope fans, I’ve gotta say it’s never done anything much for me.

you’ve gotta inhale, man!

dv said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

dv said:

Not everyone likes marijuana

That’s the ketamine talking.

I’m not taking ketamine. My diet is mostly lean meat, fruit and vegetables, and fuckin’ bran.

Paleo?

Rule 303 said:

dv said:

mollwollfumble said:

If it was legalised, it would be taxed at the same rate as tobacco of course
95c per cigarette.
$1,310 per kg.

At that tax rate, would anyone buy the legal stuff?

Not everyone likes marijuana

Yeah, with apologies to our dope fans, I’ve gotta say it’s never done anything much for me.

I like pot and coffee, not into alcohol or cigarettes, everyone is different.

I completely misunderstood the question.

Anyway, there are plenty of places on the world with legal marijuana now and yes, millions of people are buying the legal stuff, so the clear answer to the question is YES

Tau.Neutrino said:

Rule 303 said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Cigarettes are a different product so why should it incur the same tax?

Marijuana should have its own tax rate, separate from cigarettes.

Its tax rate should be in line with its harm rate.

Are the tax rates for cigarettes in line with its harm rate?

If not I would like to see this with cigarettes and alcohol.

Is anything taxed in proportion to the harm it causes?

This is what I’m suggesting, that products that harm should be taxed to the healths cost that they incur.

notable products that harm, free free to discuss others.

Alcohol
Cigarettes
Cannabis

Ahh, OK. I see where you’re coming from.

I was thinking about damage and expense and… Ugh, I don’t know.

Did you know a semi trailer causes the same damage to the road as 9,600 cars? I don’t reckon truckies would pay $7,200,000 /yr for registration.

Bogsnorkler said:

dv said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

That’s the ketamine talking.

I’m not taking ketamine. My diet is mostly lean meat, fruit and vegetables, and fuckin’ bran.

Paleo?

No.

Bogsnorkler said:

Rule 303 said:

dv said:

Not everyone likes marijuana

Yeah, with apologies to our dope fans, I’ve gotta say it’s never done anything much for me.

you’ve gotta inhale, man!

look, I am generally ok with no dope… I don’t think it should be part of a daily intake… but sometimes… sometimes a bit of mind fuzzing is kind of therapeutic… taking a moment out from my brain is like having an all expenses paid holiday.

Bogsnorkler said:

Rule 303 said:

dv said:

Not everyone likes marijuana

Yeah, with apologies to our dope fans, I’ve gotta say it’s never done anything much for me.

you’ve gotta inhale, man!

I think Putin admitted to having smoked dope when he was at uni.
That’s why they call him Vlad the Inhaler.

Peak Warming Man said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Rule 303 said:

Yeah, with apologies to our dope fans, I’ve gotta say it’s never done anything much for me.

you’ve gotta inhale, man!

I think Putin admitted to having smoked dope when he was at uni.
That’s why they call him Vlad the Inhaler.

that was terrible on a Boris level. try harder next time. think of your audience.

Rule 303 said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Rule 303 said:

Is anything taxed in proportion to the harm it causes?

This is what I’m suggesting, that products that harm should be taxed to the healths cost that they incur.

notable products that harm, free free to discuss others.

Alcohol
Cigarettes
Cannabis

Ahh, OK. I see where you’re coming from.

I was thinking about damage and expense and… Ugh, I don’t know.

Did you know a semi trailer causes the same damage to the road as 9,600 cars? I don’t reckon truckies would pay $7,200,000 /yr for registration.

Transport costs can be spread over the sale of each product transported per distance.

so instead of truckies being hit for those costs, the cost is paid for by the people buying each of those products.

Peak Warming Man said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Rule 303 said:

Yeah, with apologies to our dope fans, I’ve gotta say it’s never done anything much for me.

you’ve gotta inhale, man!

I think Putin admitted to having smoked dope when he was at uni.
That’s why they call him Vlad the Inhaler.

dearie dearie me

Let us have a marijuana led economic recovery.

sarahs mum said:

Let us have a marijuana led economic recovery.

sponsored by Doritos and pepsi max.

sarahs mum said:

Let us have a marijuana led economic recovery.

No. It is important for the trains to run on time.

party_pants said:

sarahs mum said:

Let us have a marijuana led economic recovery.

No. It is important for the trains to run on time.

I’m sorry Benito, but having the trains running on time will never make up for the Battle of Cape Mattapan.
Great and terrible thing.

Arts said:

sarahs mum said:

Let us have a marijuana led economic recovery.

sponsored by Doritos and pepsi max.

F#%k Pepsi max, it is the work of the devil…

furious said:

Arts said:

sarahs mum said:

Let us have a marijuana led economic recovery.

sponsored by Doritos and pepsi max.

F#%k Pepsi max, it is the work of the devil…

Deep fried mars bars?

sarahs mum said:

furious said:

Arts said:

sponsored by Doritos and pepsi max.

F#%k Pepsi max, it is the work of the devil…

Deep fried mars bars?

I don’t drink a lot of cola but when I do I actually prefer Pepsi over coke. Pepsi max, on the other hand, is horrendous…

sarahs mum said:

furious said:

Arts said:

sponsored by Doritos and pepsi max.

F#%k Pepsi max, it is the work of the devil…

Deep fried mars bars?

Heh.

Y’can allas pick a Scotch stoner.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Rule 303 said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

This is what I’m suggesting, that products that harm should be taxed to the healths cost that they incur.

notable products that harm, free free to discuss others.

Alcohol
Cigarettes
Cannabis

Ahh, OK. I see where you’re coming from.

I was thinking about damage and expense and… Ugh, I don’t know.

Did you know a semi trailer causes the same damage to the road as 9,600 cars? I don’t reckon truckies would pay $7,200,000 /yr for registration.

Transport costs can be spread over the sale of each product transported per distance.

so instead of truckies being hit for those costs, the cost is paid for by the people buying each of those products.

So you’re saying we’ll just add $72 to the cost of each apple?

Rule 303 said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Rule 303 said:

Ahh, OK. I see where you’re coming from.

I was thinking about damage and expense and… Ugh, I don’t know.

Did you know a semi trailer causes the same damage to the road as 9,600 cars? I don’t reckon truckies would pay $7,200,000 /yr for registration.

Transport costs can be spread over the sale of each product transported per distance.

so instead of truckies being hit for those costs, the cost is paid for by the people buying each of those products.

So you’re saying we’ll just add $72 to the cost of each apple?

I would buy from local growers, cheaper.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Rule 303 said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Transport costs can be spread over the sale of each product transported per distance.

so instead of truckies being hit for those costs, the cost is paid for by the people buying each of those products.

So you’re saying we’ll just add $72 to the cost of each apple?

I would buy from local growers, cheaper.

sooooo what about stuff that you need that isn’t local? you know, clothes, electronic stuff, etc.

Tau.Neutrino said:

Rule 303 said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Transport costs can be spread over the sale of each product transported per distance.

so instead of truckies being hit for those costs, the cost is paid for by the people buying each of those products.

So you’re saying we’ll just add $72 to the cost of each apple?

I would buy from local growers, cheaper.

I’m not sure you’ve thought this through, mate.

a. You’re evading the question.
b. Everything they’re buying just became a hell of a lot more expensive.
c. How much of what you buy is (or can be) grown or produced locally?

Bogsnorkler said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Rule 303 said:

So you’re saying we’ll just add $72 to the cost of each apple?

I would buy from local growers, cheaper.

sooooo what about stuff that you need that isn’t local? you know, clothes, electronic stuff, etc.

Tell me more about these electronics that are grown locally…

furious said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

I would buy from local growers, cheaper.

sooooo what about stuff that you need that isn’t local? you know, clothes, electronic stuff, etc.

Tell me more about these electronics that are grown locally…

where did i say that?

Bogsnorkler said:

furious said:

Bogsnorkler said:

sooooo what about stuff that you need that isn’t local? you know, clothes, electronic stuff, etc.

Tell me more about these electronics that are grown locally…

where did i say that?

Oh, you’re in one of those moods? Never mind, it is just he was talking about local growers and you brought up electronics. My response was meant to be humorous, carry on…

furious said:

Bogsnorkler said:

furious said:

Tell me more about these electronics that are grown locally…

where did i say that?

Oh, you’re in one of those moods? Never mind, it is just he was talking about local growers and you brought up electronics. My response was meant to be humorous, carry on…

I see, you’re in an easily offended mood. no worries.

Bogsnorkler said:

furious said:

Bogsnorkler said:

where did i say that?

Oh, you’re in one of those moods? Never mind, it is just he was talking about local growers and you brought up electronics. My response was meant to be humorous, carry on…

I see, you’re in an easily offended mood. no worries.

You’re funny, we’ll not when you mean to be, but you’re funny…

Rule 303 said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Rule 303 said:

So you’re saying we’ll just add $72 to the cost of each apple?

I would buy from local growers, cheaper.

I’m not sure you’ve thought this through, mate.

a. You’re evading the question.
b. Everything they’re buying just became a hell of a lot more expensive.
c. How much of what you buy is (or can be) grown or produced locally?

Yes, I didn’t understand the question.

a. Yes, see above.
b. Yes way too expensive.
c. Some are local, some are not.

I need to look into this a bit more.

Peak Warming Man said:

Bogsnorkler said:

Rule 303 said:

Yeah, with apologies to our dope fans, I’ve gotta say it’s never done anything much for me.

you’ve gotta inhale, man!

I think Putin admitted to having smoked dope when he was at uni.
That’s why they call him Vlad the Inhaler.

Russia’s equivalent of “Little Johnny” jokes typically involve a child called Vovochka, which is a diminutive form of Vladimir, who interacts with his teacher, Maria Ivanova (a stereotypical name for teachers), generally spoken in the shortened form Marivanna.

https://russianroamer.wordpress.com/2015/06/25/russian-jokes-archetype-1-vovochka/