Date: 13/06/2020 14:56:06
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1572855
Subject: China Increases Protections for Pangolins

The mammal’s keratin scales have been removed from the traditional medicine ingredient list.

The Chinese government has taken two actions to protect pangolins, which are the most trafficked non-human mammals on the planet.

Pangolins now enjoy the same safeguards as pandas with a Class 1 rank under China’s wildlife protection laws, which prohibits all domestic trade and use of the animal, reports National Geographic’s Dina Fine Maron. In addition, the government’s 2020 list of approved ingredients for traditional medicines does not include pangolin scales.

Pangolin scales—which are made of keratin, the same material as fingernails—have been included on the traditional medicine ingredients list for decades, and they have been touted as a method to improve blood flow, reduce inflammation, treat lactation problems and treat arthritis. Per National Geographic, tens of thousands of pangolins are killed annually for their meat, which is considered a luxury in Vietnam and China, and for their scales. Conservation group WildAid reports that last year, authorities seized over 130 tons of pangolin products, representing up to 400,000 animals.

Director of the Pangolin Working Group at the China Biodiversity Conservation and Green Development Foundation Sophia Zhang tells CNN that while the recent changes are positive, she feels that they came “a bit late.” Pangolin populations in China are only ten percent of their size in 1960.

Zhang tells CNN, “Many years have passed. How many pangolins have already been hunted and killed?”

The new policies give new license to authorities to stem the illegal trade of wild pangolins. But it won’t happen overnight, and the new policies might instead push the trade further underground, WildAid’s Blake tells CNN.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/china-increases-protections-pangolins-180975073/

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Date: 13/06/2020 15:02:10
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1572865
Subject: re: China Increases Protections for Pangolins

PermeateFree said:

The mammal’s keratin scales have been removed from the traditional medicine ingredient list.

but, you know, tradition, can’t go removing these things from the list, you’d be denying revising deleting erasing making history

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Date: 13/06/2020 15:05:52
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1572874
Subject: re: China Increases Protections for Pangolins

SCIENCE said:


PermeateFree said:
The mammal’s keratin scales have been removed from the traditional medicine ingredient list.

but, you know, tradition, can’t go removing these things from the list, you’d be denying revising deleting erasing making history

If only you were more relevant.

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Date: 13/06/2020 15:12:56
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1572884
Subject: re: China Increases Protections for Pangolins

well sorry, we’ll go back to the SCIENCE forum wait

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Date: 13/06/2020 15:14:32
From: Arts
ID: 1572886
Subject: re: China Increases Protections for Pangolins

SCIENCE said:


PermeateFree said:
The mammal’s keratin scales have been removed from the traditional medicine ingredient list.

but, you know, tradition, can’t go removing these things from the list, you’d be denying revising deleting erasing making history

Hopefully this also means the rhinos become irrelevant to them too.

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Date: 13/06/2020 15:14:51
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1572887
Subject: re: China Increases Protections for Pangolins

SCIENCE said:


well sorry, we’ll go back to the SCIENCE forum wait

If only you knew what it meant, we might all benefit.

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Date: 13/06/2020 15:15:39
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1572888
Subject: re: China Increases Protections for Pangolins

PermeateFree said:


SCIENCE said:

well sorry, we’ll go back to the SCIENCE forum wait

If only you knew what it meant, we might all benefit.

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Date: 13/06/2020 15:15:54
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1572889
Subject: re: China Increases Protections for Pangolins

Arts said:


SCIENCE said:

PermeateFree said:
The mammal’s keratin scales have been removed from the traditional medicine ingredient list.

but, you know, tradition, can’t go removing these things from the list, you’d be denying revising deleting erasing making history

Hopefully this also means the rhinos become irrelevant to them too.

Not enough to worry about.

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Date: 13/06/2020 17:34:55
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1572969
Subject: re: China Increases Protections for Pangolins

PermeateFree said:


The mammal’s keratin scales have been removed from the traditional medicine ingredient list.

The Chinese government has taken two actions to protect pangolins, which are the most trafficked non-human mammals on the planet.

Pangolins now enjoy the same safeguards as pandas with a Class 1 rank under China’s wildlife protection laws, which prohibits all domestic trade and use of the animal, reports National Geographic’s Dina Fine Maron. In addition, the government’s 2020 list of approved ingredients for traditional medicines does not include pangolin scales.

Pangolin scales—which are made of keratin, the same material as fingernails—have been included on the traditional medicine ingredients list for decades, and they have been touted as a method to improve blood flow, reduce inflammation, treat lactation problems and treat arthritis. Per National Geographic, tens of thousands of pangolins are killed annually for their meat, which is considered a luxury in Vietnam and China, and for their scales. Conservation group WildAid reports that last year, authorities seized over 130 tons of pangolin products, representing up to 400,000 animals.

Director of the Pangolin Working Group at the China Biodiversity Conservation and Green Development Foundation Sophia Zhang tells CNN that while the recent changes are positive, she feels that they came “a bit late.” Pangolin populations in China are only ten percent of their size in 1960.

Zhang tells CNN, “Many years have passed. How many pangolins have already been hunted and killed?”

The new policies give new license to authorities to stem the illegal trade of wild pangolins. But it won’t happen overnight, and the new policies might instead push the trade further underground, WildAid’s Blake tells CNN.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/china-increases-protections-pangolins-180975073/

> The mammal’s keratin scales have been removed from the traditional medicine ingredient list.

Excellent. Really great news.

> pangolins, which are the most trafficked non-human mammals on the planet.

Correct, as i was astonished to learn about six months ago. Protection of wild Chinese pangolins has not been sufficient because it led to the increasing slaughter of pangolins from Africa and other parts of Asia.

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Date: 13/06/2020 17:39:02
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1572974
Subject: re: China Increases Protections for Pangolins

PermeateFree said:


The mammal’s keratin scales have been removed from the traditional medicine ingredient list.

Oh, fine, dandy, all the Chinese witch doctors will just stop using this nonsense ingredient in their bullshit recipes just because some not-enforced window-dressing ‘law’ says so.

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Date: 13/06/2020 18:15:05
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1573000
Subject: re: China Increases Protections for Pangolins

captain_spalding said:


PermeateFree said:

The mammal’s keratin scales have been removed from the traditional medicine ingredient list.

Oh, fine, dandy, all the Chinese witch doctors will just stop using this nonsense ingredient in their bullshit recipes just because some not-enforced window-dressing ‘law’ says so.

No, it says it will take some time, but from now on it will be illegal to trade the animal, which will hopefully have some effect down the line.

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Date: 13/06/2020 18:18:24
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1573004
Subject: re: China Increases Protections for Pangolins

PermeateFree said:


captain_spalding said:

PermeateFree said:

The mammal’s keratin scales have been removed from the traditional medicine ingredient list.

Oh, fine, dandy, all the Chinese witch doctors will just stop using this nonsense ingredient in their bullshit recipes just because some not-enforced window-dressing ‘law’ says so.

No, it says it will take some time, but from now on it will be illegal to trade the animal, which will hopefully have some effect down the line.

Drive up the price, if nothing else.

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Date: 13/06/2020 19:21:27
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1573028
Subject: re: China Increases Protections for Pangolins

captain_spalding said:


Drive up the price, if nothing else.

Much much more than that. Trafficking in pangolin scales has been banned for some time now. Quantities approaching tons have been seized by customs.

This is the worst illegal animal products business on the whole planet. By making possession a crime as well as trafficking the Chinese have taken away the market.

It’s the best news since sliced bread.

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Date: 13/06/2020 19:39:46
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1573038
Subject: re: China Increases Protections for Pangolins

mollwollfumble said:


captain_spalding said:

Drive up the price, if nothing else.

Much much more than that. Trafficking in pangolin scales has been banned for some time now. Quantities approaching tons have been seized by customs.

This is the worst illegal animal products business on the whole planet. By making possession a crime as well as trafficking the Chinese have taken away the market.

It’s the best news since sliced bread.

Don’t think that was the case in China.

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Date: 15/06/2020 08:11:46
From: roughbarked
ID: 1573612
Subject: re: China Increases Protections for Pangolins

PermeateFree said:


mollwollfumble said:

captain_spalding said:

Drive up the price, if nothing else.

Much much more than that. Trafficking in pangolin scales has been banned for some time now. Quantities approaching tons have been seized by customs.

This is the worst illegal animal products business on the whole planet. By making possession a crime as well as trafficking the Chinese have taken away the market.

It’s the best news since sliced bread.

Don’t think that was the case in China.

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/environment-and-energy/pangolin-smuggling-continues-in-china-despite-trade-ban-corrected

https://phys.org/news/2018-03-hong-kong-defy-pangolin-scales.html

https://phys.org/news/2019-02-hong-kong-seizes-tonnes-pangolin.html

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