Date: 15/06/2020 16:54:21
From: buffy
ID: 1573986
Subject: Weird Rose

My turn. I pruned a couple of roses today. One of the very old ones has produced a stem which starts normal (round) and then seems to think it wants to be a cactus and goes flat. I’m going to prune it off at the base, but I thought it was interesting, so took a couple of photos.

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Date: 15/06/2020 17:01:45
From: Speedy
ID: 1573997
Subject: re: Weird Rose

buffy said:


My turn. I pruned a couple of roses today. One of the very old ones has produced a stem which starts normal (round) and then seems to think it wants to be a cactus and goes flat. I’m going to prune it off at the base, but I thought it was interesting, so took a couple of photos.

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It looks like a nasty weapon some would keep near their front door.

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Date: 15/06/2020 17:03:37
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1573999
Subject: re: Weird Rose
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Date: 15/06/2020 17:04:16
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1574000
Subject: re: Weird Rose

SCIENCE said:

sorry, what we meant to say was, and here we thought the thread would be about how the current absurd state of the world developed

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Date: 15/06/2020 17:25:57
From: ruby
ID: 1574002
Subject: re: Weird Rose

Fasciation. I see it from time to time in flannel flower stems and in daisy flowers, when they get an elongated flower. Might be good to prune it off and burn it-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasciation

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Date: 15/06/2020 17:30:02
From: dv
ID: 1574003
Subject: re: Weird Rose

SCIENCE said:


SCIENCE said:

sorry, what we meant to say was, and here we thought the thread would be about how the current absurd state of the world developed

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Date: 15/06/2020 17:39:42
From: buffy
ID: 1574005
Subject: re: Weird Rose

ruby said:


Fasciation. I see it from time to time in flannel flower stems and in daisy flowers, when they get an elongated flower. Might be good to prune it off and burn it-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasciation

Thanks ruby. It’s going into the organic waste bin that was delivered today. That bin will only have stuff in it during rose pruning. Everything else here goes back into the soil.

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Date: 15/06/2020 17:55:39
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1574008
Subject: re: Weird Rose

I think you need all your soil decontaminated by some International Atomic Energy Decontamination Flying Squad and your flowers and root vegetables will be recognisable.

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Date: 15/06/2020 18:42:32
From: party_pants
ID: 1574018
Subject: re: Weird Rose

Peak Warming Man said:


I think you need all your soil decontaminated by some International Atomic Energy Decontamination Flying Squad and your flowers and root vegetables will be recognisable.

Well yes, I certainly do.

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Date: 15/06/2020 18:44:46
From: buffy
ID: 1574019
Subject: re: Weird Rose

https://adaa.com.au/faqs/

dog agility association

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Date: 15/06/2020 18:45:35
From: buffy
ID: 1574022
Subject: re: Weird Rose

whoops!

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Date: 15/06/2020 21:52:32
From: Ogmog
ID: 1574111
Subject: re: Weird Rose

buffy said:


My turn. I pruned a couple of roses today. One of the very old ones has produced a stem which starts normal (round) and then seems to think it wants to be a cactus and goes flat. I’m going to prune it off at the base, but I thought it was interesting, so took a couple of photos.

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WHOA WHOA WHOA

…before you go all slashy / burny on this stem…

please consult a GRAFTING EXPERT such as our Roughbark.

Roses are one of those flowering plants that almost always
is the result of grafting techniques that use a hardy stock
with a more desirable (prettier, or more fragrant) stem
grafted onto it resulting in a bush that does well in
your given environment with the ability to delight
the eye and nose for years…until it goes bad.

I first happened upon this phenomena
when my ex-landlady over-pruned
her favorite WHITE Rose Bush
that suddenly began producing
nothing by small RED Roses.

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Date: 16/06/2020 00:07:40
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1574146
Subject: re: Weird Rose

Ogmog said:


buffy said:

My turn. I pruned a couple of roses today. One of the very old ones has produced a stem which starts normal (round) and then seems to think it wants to be a cactus and goes flat. I’m going to prune it off at the base, but I thought it was interesting, so took a couple of photos.

…………… …………..

WHOA WHOA WHOA

…before you go all slashy / burny on this stem…

please consult a GRAFTING EXPERT such as our Roughbark.

Roses are one of those flowering plants that almost always
is the result of grafting techniques that use a hardy stock
with a more desirable (prettier, or more fragrant) stem
grafted onto it resulting in a bush that does well in
your given environment with the ability to delight
the eye and nose for years…until it goes bad.

I first happened upon this phenomena
when my ex-landlady over-pruned
her favorite WHITE Rose Bush
that suddenly began producing
nothing by small RED Roses.

OMG the world of roses has gone mad.

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Date: 16/06/2020 04:42:19
From: Ogmog
ID: 1574150
Subject: re: Weird Rose

PermeateFree said:


Ogmog said:

buffy said:

My turn. I pruned a couple of roses today. One of the very old ones has produced a stem which starts normal (round) and then seems to think it wants to be a cactus and goes flat. I’m going to prune it off at the base, but I thought it was interesting, so took a couple of photos.

…………… …………..

WHOA WHOA WHOA

…before you go all slashy / burny on this stem…

>snip<
I first happened upon this phenomena
when my ex-landlady over-pruned
her favorite WHITE Rose Bush
that suddenly began producing
nothing by small RED Roses.

OMG the world of roses has gone mad.



.:open in new tab:.

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Date: 16/06/2020 06:53:39
From: roughbarked
ID: 1574151
Subject: re: Weird Rose

PermeateFree said:


Ogmog said:

buffy said:

My turn. I pruned a couple of roses today. One of the very old ones has produced a stem which starts normal (round) and then seems to think it wants to be a cactus and goes flat. I’m going to prune it off at the base, but I thought it was interesting, so took a couple of photos.

…………… …………..

WHOA WHOA WHOA

…before you go all slashy / burny on this stem…

please consult a GRAFTING EXPERT such as our Roughbark.

Roses are one of those flowering plants that almost always
is the result of grafting techniques that use a hardy stock
with a more desirable (prettier, or more fragrant) stem
grafted onto it resulting in a bush that does well in
your given environment with the ability to delight
the eye and nose for years…until it goes bad.

I first happened upon this phenomena
when my ex-landlady over-pruned
her favorite WHITE Rose Bush
that suddenly began producing
nothing by small RED Roses.

OMG the world of roses has gone mad.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasciation

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Date: 16/06/2020 06:54:42
From: roughbarked
ID: 1574152
Subject: re: Weird Rose

OK. Trust me to come in late.

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Date: 16/06/2020 08:50:17
From: buffy
ID: 1574180
Subject: re: Weird Rose

Ogmog said:


buffy said:

My turn. I pruned a couple of roses today. One of the very old ones has produced a stem which starts normal (round) and then seems to think it wants to be a cactus and goes flat. I’m going to prune it off at the base, but I thought it was interesting, so took a couple of photos.

…………… …………..

WHOA WHOA WHOA

…before you go all slashy / burny on this stem…

please consult a GRAFTING EXPERT such as our Roughbark.

Roses are one of those flowering plants that almost always
is the result of grafting techniques that use a hardy stock
with a more desirable (prettier, or more fragrant) stem
grafted onto it resulting in a bush that does well in
your given environment with the ability to delight
the eye and nose for years…until it goes bad.

I first happened upon this phenomena
when my ex-landlady over-pruned
her favorite WHITE Rose Bush
that suddenly began producing
nothing by small RED Roses.

It’s not rootstock. This rose bush is probably about 40 years old at a guess. I do have to remove rootstock shoots, but that is not one of them. It is from above the graft.

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Date: 16/06/2020 08:52:50
From: roughbarked
ID: 1574185
Subject: re: Weird Rose

buffy said:


Ogmog said:

buffy said:

My turn. I pruned a couple of roses today. One of the very old ones has produced a stem which starts normal (round) and then seems to think it wants to be a cactus and goes flat. I’m going to prune it off at the base, but I thought it was interesting, so took a couple of photos.

…………… …………..

WHOA WHOA WHOA

…before you go all slashy / burny on this stem…

please consult a GRAFTING EXPERT such as our Roughbark.

Roses are one of those flowering plants that almost always
is the result of grafting techniques that use a hardy stock
with a more desirable (prettier, or more fragrant) stem
grafted onto it resulting in a bush that does well in
your given environment with the ability to delight
the eye and nose for years…until it goes bad.

I first happened upon this phenomena
when my ex-landlady over-pruned
her favorite WHITE Rose Bush
that suddenly began producing
nothing by small RED Roses.

It’s not rootstock. This rose bush is probably about 40 years old at a guess. I do have to remove rootstock shoots, but that is not one of them. It is from above the graft.

Cut back as hard as you like but probably best to wait until August or whenever is recommended for your area. The fasciation won’t harm the plant while dormant.

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Date: 16/06/2020 09:00:20
From: buffy
ID: 1574195
Subject: re: Weird Rose

roughbarked said:


buffy said:

Ogmog said:

WHOA WHOA WHOA

…before you go all slashy / burny on this stem…

please consult a GRAFTING EXPERT such as our Roughbark.

Roses are one of those flowering plants that almost always
is the result of grafting techniques that use a hardy stock
with a more desirable (prettier, or more fragrant) stem
grafted onto it resulting in a bush that does well in
your given environment with the ability to delight
the eye and nose for years…until it goes bad.

I first happened upon this phenomena
when my ex-landlady over-pruned
her favorite WHITE Rose Bush
that suddenly began producing
nothing by small RED Roses.

It’s not rootstock. This rose bush is probably about 40 years old at a guess. I do have to remove rootstock shoots, but that is not one of them. It is from above the graft.

Cut back as hard as you like but probably best to wait until August or whenever is recommended for your area. The fasciation won’t harm the plant while dormant.

I begin the rose pruning at Easter. That is on the third last plant to get pruned this year. I’ve only got a couple of miniatures to go. And I haven’t got to do the Casterton ones this year!!

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Date: 16/06/2020 09:04:25
From: roughbarked
ID: 1574199
Subject: re: Weird Rose

buffy said:


roughbarked said:

buffy said:

It’s not rootstock. This rose bush is probably about 40 years old at a guess. I do have to remove rootstock shoots, but that is not one of them. It is from above the graft.

Cut back as hard as you like but probably best to wait until August or whenever is recommended for your area. The fasciation won’t harm the plant while dormant.

I begin the rose pruning at Easter. That is on the third last plant to get pruned this year. I’ve only got a couple of miniatures to go. And I haven’t got to do the Casterton ones this year!!

OK. It is quite a while since I have had to prune a rose.
My non-vegetable gardening evolved to be mainly native quite a long time back.

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Date: 16/06/2020 09:08:38
From: buffy
ID: 1574204
Subject: re: Weird Rose

roughbarked said:


buffy said:

roughbarked said:

Cut back as hard as you like but probably best to wait until August or whenever is recommended for your area. The fasciation won’t harm the plant while dormant.

I begin the rose pruning at Easter. That is on the third last plant to get pruned this year. I’ve only got a couple of miniatures to go. And I haven’t got to do the Casterton ones this year!!

OK. It is quite a while since I have had to prune a rose.
My non-vegetable gardening evolved to be mainly native quite a long time back.

I’ll grow roses if they have perfume or are otherwise exceptional. I’m not into the pink ones at all, mostly I grow reds, and some very old whites for contrast. Some of my front garden is red and white. You don’t get to live in that bit unless your flowers are red or white. I do have a couple with pink. A white with a hot pink edge on the petals, and a miniature similar. And I’ve got cuttings of a very old pink from the Casterton garden with the most wonderful perfume. It’s not reliable, it will ball the bud in poor weather.

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Date: 16/06/2020 09:11:45
From: roughbarked
ID: 1574208
Subject: re: Weird Rose

buffy said:


roughbarked said:

buffy said:

I begin the rose pruning at Easter. That is on the third last plant to get pruned this year. I’ve only got a couple of miniatures to go. And I haven’t got to do the Casterton ones this year!!

OK. It is quite a while since I have had to prune a rose.
My non-vegetable gardening evolved to be mainly native quite a long time back.

I’ll grow roses if they have perfume or are otherwise exceptional. I’m not into the pink ones at all, mostly I grow reds, and some very old whites for contrast. Some of my front garden is red and white. You don’t get to live in that bit unless your flowers are red or white. I do have a couple with pink. A white with a hot pink edge on the petals, and a miniature similar. And I’ve got cuttings of a very old pink from the Casterton garden with the most wonderful perfume. It’s not reliable, it will ball the bud in poor weather.

Yes the rose I held onto the longest was one called Nightingale. Very dark red, almost black and huge wafts of the most delightful rose scent.

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