Date: 16/06/2020 17:00:53
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1574385
Subject: Coastal erosion

Back 40 years ago as I stood on a cliff at Diamond Bay, Vaucluse, I thought that I wouldn’t like to own that house because coastal erosion would surely dump it into the sea soon.

Has Vaucluse fallen into the sea yet?

Have any Australian houses fallen into the sea lately?
What about main roads?

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Date: 16/06/2020 17:10:45
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1574390
Subject: re: Coastal erosion

mollwollfumble said:


Back 40 years ago as I stood on a cliff at Diamond Bay, Vaucluse, I thought that I wouldn’t like to own that house because coastal erosion would surely dump it into the sea soon.

Has Vaucluse fallen into the sea yet?

Have any Australian houses fallen into the sea lately?
What about main roads?

I don’t know what it was like 40 years ago, but 28 Marne St looks like it might disappear any time now (on Googmaps satellite view).

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Date: 16/06/2020 17:13:05
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1574391
Subject: re: Coastal erosion

The Rev Dodgson said:


mollwollfumble said:

Back 40 years ago as I stood on a cliff at Diamond Bay, Vaucluse, I thought that I wouldn’t like to own that house because coastal erosion would surely dump it into the sea soon.

Has Vaucluse fallen into the sea yet?

Have any Australian houses fallen into the sea lately?
What about main roads?

I don’t know what it was like 40 years ago, but 28 Marne St looks like it might disappear any time now (on Googmaps satellite view).

And a quick Binge finds loads of reports of young tourists falling to their deaths at these cliffs.

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Date: 16/06/2020 17:31:39
From: Rule 303
ID: 1574403
Subject: re: Coastal erosion

It’s reasonably common to have bits of road right on coastlines need urgent repairs due to landslip movement (either undermining or collapse from above), and we’ve had cyclones cause coastal erosion that undermined houses.

If you were to move the question inland a little then yeah, there lots of roads and houses getting swept away by riverine flooding.

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Date: 16/06/2020 17:35:33
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1574408
Subject: re: Coastal erosion

Rule 303 said:


It’s reasonably common to have bits of road right on coastlines need urgent repairs due to landslip movement (either undermining or collapse from above), and we’ve had cyclones cause coastal erosion that undermined houses.

If you were to move the question inland a little then yeah, there lots of roads and houses getting swept away by riverine flooding.

bit of a problem on this side. different coast here as WA is mostly sand.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-07-31/erosion-washing-away-beaches-up-and-down-wa-coast/11359006?nw=0

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Date: 16/06/2020 17:36:06
From: Rule 303
ID: 1574409
Subject: re: Coastal erosion

The Rev Dodgson said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

mollwollfumble said:

Back 40 years ago as I stood on a cliff at Diamond Bay, Vaucluse, I thought that I wouldn’t like to own that house because coastal erosion would surely dump it into the sea soon.

Has Vaucluse fallen into the sea yet?

Have any Australian houses fallen into the sea lately?
What about main roads?

I don’t know what it was like 40 years ago, but 28 Marne St looks like it might disappear any time now (on Googmaps satellite view).

And a quick Binge finds loads of reports of young tourists falling to their deaths at these cliffs.

Which is nowhere near the number of jumpers….

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Date: 16/06/2020 17:36:46
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1574412
Subject: re: Coastal erosion

Rule 303 said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I don’t know what it was like 40 years ago, but 28 Marne St looks like it might disappear any time now (on Googmaps satellite view).

And a quick Binge finds loads of reports of young tourists falling to their deaths at these cliffs.

Which is nowhere near the number of jumpers….

yeah, I have about 3.

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Date: 16/06/2020 17:37:53
From: Rule 303
ID: 1574414
Subject: re: Coastal erosion

JudgeMental said:


Rule 303 said:

It’s reasonably common to have bits of road right on coastlines need urgent repairs due to landslip movement (either undermining or collapse from above), and we’ve had cyclones cause coastal erosion that undermined houses.

If you were to move the question inland a little then yeah, there lots of roads and houses getting swept away by riverine flooding.

bit of a problem on this side. different coast here as WA is mostly sand.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-07-31/erosion-washing-away-beaches-up-and-down-wa-coast/11359006?nw=0

I thought the engineering solutions were pretty straight-forward? Just a matter of finding someone to pay for it.

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Date: 16/06/2020 17:46:25
From: Speedy
ID: 1574420
Subject: re: Coastal erosion

The closest thing we’ve have in Sydney recently was this pool, but that was from beach erosion at Collaroy.

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Date: 17/06/2020 03:00:09
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1574676
Subject: re: Coastal erosion

Speedy said:


The closest thing we’ve have in Sydney recently was this pool, but that was from beach erosion at Collaroy.


Wow. Thank you.

Rule 303 said:


It’s reasonably common to have bits of road right on coastlines need urgent repairs due to landslip movement (either undermining or collapse from above), and we’ve had cyclones cause coastal erosion that undermined houses.

If you were to move the question inland a little then yeah, there lots of roads and houses getting swept away by riverine flooding.


Thanks for that on undermining of coastal roads, I hadn’t heard of those.

I have heard about landslide problems from above, which originally led to the development of shotcrete and since then a whole series oif improved engineering solutions.

Agree totally with riverine flooding. Needs an urgent fix.

> beach erosion

Beach and sand cliff coastal erosion is very common, even inside Port Phillip Bay. Those bulldozer tracks all over our beaches detract from the beach experience.

> but 28 Marne St looks like it might disappear any time now

Yes! That’s one of the houses from Diamond Bay Vaucluse that had me worried 40 years ago.

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Date: 17/06/2020 03:08:34
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1574678
Subject: re: Coastal erosion

don’t worry they’re up high and dry on the cliff, they’ll be fine, just need a little privileged rich peoples grant from the Federal Government for a few little structural works to keep their little place afloat, take it out of the savings we didn’t need to dish out to Pacific Island sea level rise disaster mitigation

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Date: 17/06/2020 03:35:33
From: Ogmog
ID: 1574681
Subject: re: Coastal erosion

mollwollfumble said:


Back 40 years ago as I stood on a cliff at Diamond Bay, Vaucluse, I thought that I wouldn’t like to own that house because coastal erosion would surely dump it into the sea soon.

Has Vaucluse fallen into the sea yet?

Have any Australian houses fallen into the sea lately?
What about main roads?

It differs from place to place:
the Eastern Coast of the USA is being eroded

by increasing intensity of Hurricanes while the Mississippi Delta
is eroding away due to man made interference due to dredging canals to
afford Oil Tankers deeper channels to & from the Off-Shore Oil Drilling Platforms.
Once a million years of mud was disturbed, the mangroves that held it in place started
to die, taking the outer barrier islands with them. Now ever hurricane season becomes a disaster.


Land Loss

Let’s hear it for Short Term Profits (Penny Wise & Pound Foolish)
They saved a million dollars, & by so doing put a trillion dollar city (New Orleans)
at risk, not to mention the lives & property put in harms way or the billion dollar projects to
build and repair the dykes that now wash away like a child’s Sand Castle when the tide rolls in.

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Date: 17/06/2020 07:18:21
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1574693
Subject: re: Coastal erosion

Ogmog said:


the Eastern Coast of the USA is being eroded

by increasing intensity of Hurricanes while the Mississippi Delta
is eroding away due to man made interference due to dredging canals to
afford Oil Tankers deeper channels to & from the Off-Shore Oil Drilling Platforms.
Once a million years of mud was disturbed, the mangroves that held it in place started
to die, taking the outer barrier islands with them. Now ever hurricane season becomes a disaster.


Land Loss

Let’s hear it for Short Term Profits (Penny Wise & Pound Foolish)
They saved a million dollars, & by so doing put a trillion dollar city (New Orleans)
at risk, not to mention the lives & property put in harms way or the billion dollar projects to
build and repair the dykes that now wash away like a child’s Sand Castle when the tide rolls in.

what’s the problem here, all seems fair to us

The Economy Must Grow and it won’t grow as much if you leave things standing, you have to need more replacement products to actually generate demand to produce them

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Date: 17/06/2020 10:44:20
From: Ogmog
ID: 1574753
Subject: re: Coastal erosion

SCIENCE said:


Ogmog said:

the Eastern Coast of the USA is being eroded

by increasing intensity of Hurricanes while the Mississippi Delta
is eroding away due to man made interference due to dredging canals to
afford Oil Tankers deeper channels to & from the Off-Shore Oil Drilling Platforms.
Once a million years of mud was disturbed, the mangroves that held it in place started
to die, taking the outer barrier islands with them. Now ever hurricane season becomes a disaster.


Land Loss

Let’s hear it for Short Term Profits (Penny Wise & Pound Foolish)
They saved a million dollars, & by so doing put a trillion dollar city (New Orleans)
at risk, not to mention the lives & property put in harms way or the billion dollar projects to
build and repair the dykes that now wash away like a child’s Sand Castle when the tide rolls in.

what’s the problem here, all seems fair to us

The Economy Must Grow and it won’t grow as much if you leave things standing, you have to need more replacement products to actually generate demand to produce them

…and thus was born “PLANNED Obsolescence”.
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Date: 17/06/2020 12:15:25
From: Speedy
ID: 1574818
Subject: re: Coastal erosion

This is Holman House at Dover Heights. Last year we took one of those jet boat trips between the harbour and Bondi, and this house was the only stand-out along that stretch of coastline. It looked precarious hanging over the edge like it does, but it doesn’t look too bad from an aerial view, as it’s overhanging a lower ledge.

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Date: 17/06/2020 12:41:35
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1574826
Subject: re: Coastal erosion

i see 33 weonga rd has a charging bull statue.

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Date: 17/06/2020 12:42:11
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1574827
Subject: re: Coastal erosion

JudgeMental said:


i see 33 weonga rd has a charging bull statue.

Every home should have one.

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Date: 17/06/2020 12:44:55
From: Michael V
ID: 1574828
Subject: re: Coastal erosion

JudgeMental said:


i see 33 weonga rd has a charging bull statue.

Not to be outdone by the toffee noses, we have a cow and a calf.

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Date: 17/06/2020 13:15:57
From: buffy
ID: 1574835
Subject: re: Coastal erosion

Michael V said:


JudgeMental said:

i see 33 weonga rd has a charging bull statue.

Not to be outdone by the toffee noses, we have a cow and a calf.

We’ve got sheep…oh hang on, I think we decided sheep were the dumbest. Well at least mine have got an excuse – they are made of polyresin. And they’ve weathered quite a bit since they were “new” in 2013. And I’ve had to superglue one of the ram’s horns back on when he got in the way of a Running Bruna a couple of years ago.

Also got a nest of dragons.

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Date: 17/06/2020 13:25:36
From: JudgeMental
ID: 1574838
Subject: re: Coastal erosion

buffy said:


Michael V said:

JudgeMental said:

i see 33 weonga rd has a charging bull statue.

Not to be outdone by the toffee noses, we have a cow and a calf.

We’ve got sheep…oh hang on, I think we decided sheep were the dumbest. Well at least mine have got an excuse – they are made of polyresin. And they’ve weathered quite a bit since they were “new” in 2013. And I’ve had to superglue one of the ram’s horns back on when he got in the way of a Running Bruna a couple of years ago.

Also got a nest of dragons.


I have bandicoots.

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Date: 17/06/2020 13:39:34
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1574848
Subject: re: Coastal erosion

JudgeMental said:

I have bandicoots.

I thinks you can get a cream for it.

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Date: 17/06/2020 13:48:04
From: Tamb
ID: 1574855
Subject: re: Coastal erosion

JudgeMental said:


buffy said:

Michael V said:

Not to be outdone by the toffee noses, we have a cow and a calf.

We’ve got sheep…oh hang on, I think we decided sheep were the dumbest. Well at least mine have got an excuse – they are made of polyresin. And they’ve weathered quite a bit since they were “new” in 2013. And I’ve had to superglue one of the ram’s horns back on when he got in the way of a Running Bruna a couple of years ago.

Also got a nest of dragons.


I have bandicoots.

I have frogs:

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Date: 17/06/2020 14:53:18
From: buffy
ID: 1574873
Subject: re: Coastal erosion

Tamb said:


JudgeMental said:

buffy said:

We’ve got sheep…oh hang on, I think we decided sheep were the dumbest. Well at least mine have got an excuse – they are made of polyresin. And they’ve weathered quite a bit since they were “new” in 2013. And I’ve had to superglue one of the ram’s horns back on when he got in the way of a Running Bruna a couple of years ago.

Also got a nest of dragons.


I have bandicoots.

I have frogs:

I’ve got a few frogs. And some turtles. And a platypus in the front garden by some bird water dishes. I’m a bit partial to fake animals in the garden. Not sure why. Plenty of real frogs and birds about.

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