Can you explain to a political ignoramus like me what the heck is happening in the Victorian government?

Is this a coup, and if so by whom?

mollwollfumble said:

Can you explain to a political ignoramus like me what the heck is happening in the Victorian government?

Is this a coup, and if so by whom?

It’s the reason we have an IBAC. And why we should have a national body of this sort.

https://www.ibac.vic.gov.au/

We need to let it do its thing.

¡ well federal Liberal demonstrate themselves to be as corrupt as fucking Najib to win a supposedly unwinnable election so why not manufacture a corruption scandal to try to win a state election ¿

SCIENCE said:

¡ well federal Liberal demonstrate themselves to be as corrupt as fucking Najib to win a supposedly unwinnable election so why not manufacture a corruption scandal to try to win a state election ¿

Nothing that convoluted i imagine. Most likely factional enemies of Somyurek filling in the media. Why bring down someone personally when you can get the media to do it for you.

buffy said:

mollwollfumble said:

Can you explain to a political ignoramus like me what the heck is happening in the Victorian government?

Is this a coup, and if so by whom?

It’s the reason we have an IBAC. And why we should have a national body of this sort.

https://www.ibac.vic.gov.au/

We need to let it do its thing.

So nobody here really knows what’s happening in Victorian government either.

The IBAC website explains nothing. It’s concentrates on investigation into Covid-19 activities and police activities.

I have two problems with anti-corruption commissions. One is that the person who sets up the commission does so in order to pretend to do the right thing whilst avoiding offending their corrupt colleagues. (My source for that is Manning-Clarke).

The second is that a corrupt politician or government official with a cutout person is very difficult to pin to the wall, and a corrupt politician with two cutout people can’t be pinned to the wall at all. Which is why all the most corrupt politicians use two cutout people. The only people caught by an anti-corruption commission are the innocent and naive people who haven’t got a consigliere at all. Or to put it another way, an anti-corruption commission is no more effective than the Mccarthy Un American Activities Commission. (My source for that is Kevin Mitnick, about his FBI work).

mollwollfumble said:

buffy said:

mollwollfumble said:

Can you explain to a political ignoramus like me what the heck is happening in the Victorian government?

Is this a coup, and if so by whom?

It’s the reason we have an IBAC. And why we should have a national body of this sort.

https://www.ibac.vic.gov.au/

We need to let it do its thing.

So nobody here really knows what’s happening in Victorian government either.

No. I just can’t be bothered. How about you read an actual newspaper? it’s all there. ‘The Age’ has the exclusive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliament_of_Victoria
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Labor_Party
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Branch_stacking

Morning punters and correctors, nothing of any great moment to report.

Peak Warming Man said:

Morning punters and correctors, nothing of any great moment to report.

Morning all.
No winter yet.
Tested the Android phone compass download. It seems quite accurate when compare to a conventional magnetic compass.

Tamb said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Morning punters and correctors, nothing of any great moment to report.

Morning all.
No winter yet.
Tested the Android phone compass download. It seems quite accurate when compare to a conventional magnetic compass.

Oops, sorry, rong fred.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adem_Somyurek#The_Age/Nine_recordings

mollwollfumble said:

buffy said:

mollwollfumble said:

Can you explain to a political ignoramus like me what the heck is happening in the Victorian government?

Is this a coup, and if so by whom?

It’s the reason we have an IBAC. And why we should have a national body of this sort.

https://www.ibac.vic.gov.au/

We need to let it do its thing.

So nobody here really knows what’s happening in Victorian government either.

The IBAC website explains nothing. It’s concentrates on investigation into Covid-19 activities and police activities.

I have two problems with anti-corruption commissions. One is that the person who sets up the commission does so in order to pretend to do the right thing whilst avoiding offending their corrupt colleagues. (My source for that is Manning-Clarke).

The second is that a corrupt politician or government official with a cutout person is very difficult to pin to the wall, and a corrupt politician with two cutout people can’t be pinned to the wall at all. Which is why all the most corrupt politicians use two cutout people. The only people caught by an anti-corruption commission are the innocent and naive people who haven’t got a consigliere at all. Or to put it another way, an anti-corruption commission is no more effective than the Mccarthy Un American Activities Commission. (My source for that is Kevin Mitnick, about his FBI work).

I suggest you have a look at the About Us section of the IBAC webpage. It is independent of the government of the time.

https://www.ibac.vic.gov.au/about-us

Everything is totally fine

Please resume your normal viewing

Witty Rejoinder said:

SCIENCE said:

¡ well federal Liberal demonstrate themselves to be as corrupt as fucking Najib to win a supposedly unwinnable election so why not manufacture a corruption scandal to try to win a state election ¿

Nothing that convoluted i imagine. Most likely factional enemies of Somyurek filling in the media. Why bring down someone personally when you can get the media to do it for you.

I hope he doesn’t have a statue

wookiemeister said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

SCIENCE said:

¡ well federal Liberal demonstrate themselves to be as corrupt as fucking Najib to win a supposedly unwinnable election so why not manufacture a corruption scandal to try to win a state election ¿

Nothing that convoluted i imagine. Most likely factional enemies of Somyurek filling in the media. Why bring down someone personally when you can get the media to do it for you.

I hope he doesn’t have a statue

Bastards in the media do play a big role in most political revolutions – in the Eureka stockade for instance – in the Bolshevik revolution for instance.

Witty Rejoinder said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliament_of_Victoria
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Labor_Party
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Branch_stacking

> Branch stacking is a term used in Australian politics to describe the act of recruiting or signing up members for a local branch of a political party for the principal purpose of influencing the outcome of internal preselections of candidates for public office, or to inordinately influence policy of the party.

Nope. Still doesn’t make sense. Preselection is a total crock anyway, and has been for at least 200 years.

Summarise please. Or answer the legal question “cui bono?”

mollwollfumble said:

wookiemeister said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

I hope he doesn’t have a statue

Bastards in the media do play a big role in most political revolutions – in the Eureka stockade for instance – in the Bolshevik revolution for instance.

Witty Rejoinder said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliament_of_Victoria
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Labor_Party
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Branch_stacking

> Branch stacking is a term used in Australian politics to describe the act of recruiting or signing up members for a local branch of a political party for the principal purpose of influencing the outcome of internal preselections of candidates for public office, or to inordinately influence policy of the party.

Nope. Still doesn’t make sense. Preselection is a total crock anyway, and has been for at least 200 years.

Summarise please. Or answer the legal question “cui bono?”

Sorry i can’t be fucked spoon-feeding you something so simple.