Date: 28/06/2020 11:58:43
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1580496
Subject: Tree feller (nonsci)

Got any advice on cutting down gum trees?

Two gum trees in back and side garden on fence line, between house and power lines. Not close to either.
Neither tree has finished growing, about 20 cm diameter at the base.
Sparse foliage, hardly any actually.

I have an 8 metre ladder. I want to buy a chain saw, I’ve never used one.

One of the two trees I’m happy about my ability to cut it down. It’s about 10 metres tall and vertical.
The other tree I’m nervous about. It’s about 12 metres tall and growing on a slant.
I don’t have to cut them off at the base, at two metres high is good enough, above the fence line, a mere trim.

Start with the smallest branches, obviously.
Cut from top to bottom, obviously.
Tie ladder to tree with occy strap, obviously.
Blocks of wood under ladder base to ensure it doesn’t tilt to the side, obviously.

What about tying branches off with string from one side of the cut to the other before I cut them to ensure that they fall vertically?
What chain saw?
Would you hire a specialist?

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Date: 28/06/2020 12:05:14
From: party_pants
ID: 1580497
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Only if there is absolutely no danger of branches falling on power lines would I attempt it myself.

Get yourself a small battery chainsaw on a pole, something like this, and trim off small bits at a time so they don’t cause damage when they fall.

https://www.bunnings.com.au/ryobi-18v-one-pole-pruner-skin-only_p0099002

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Date: 28/06/2020 12:05:46
From: Michael V
ID: 1580498
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

mollwollfumble said:


Got any advice on cutting down gum trees?

Two gum trees in back and side garden on fence line, between house and power lines. Not close to either.
Neither tree has finished growing, about 20 cm diameter at the base.
Sparse foliage, hardly any actually.

I have an 8 metre ladder. I want to buy a chain saw, I’ve never used one.

One of the two trees I’m happy about my ability to cut it down. It’s about 10 metres tall and vertical.
The other tree I’m nervous about. It’s about 12 metres tall and growing on a slant.
I don’t have to cut them off at the base, at two metres high is good enough, above the fence line, a mere trim.

Start with the smallest branches, obviously.
Cut from top to bottom, obviously.
Tie ladder to tree with occy strap, obviously.
Blocks of wood under ladder base to ensure it doesn’t tilt to the side, obviously.

What about tying branches off with string from one side of the cut to the other before I cut them to ensure that they fall vertically?
What chain saw?
Would you hire a specialist?

A chain saw is the most dangerous tool you can buy without needing a licence.

I would go with a specialist, and have done in the past, even though I own and can safely operate a chain saw. (I have done a chain saw course.)

When the trees are at an acceptable height, regular pruning will keep them that way.

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Date: 28/06/2020 12:06:40
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1580499
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Michael V said:


mollwollfumble said:

Got any advice on cutting down gum trees?

Two gum trees in back and side garden on fence line, between house and power lines. Not close to either.
Neither tree has finished growing, about 20 cm diameter at the base.
Sparse foliage, hardly any actually.

I have an 8 metre ladder. I want to buy a chain saw, I’ve never used one.

One of the two trees I’m happy about my ability to cut it down. It’s about 10 metres tall and vertical.
The other tree I’m nervous about. It’s about 12 metres tall and growing on a slant.
I don’t have to cut them off at the base, at two metres high is good enough, above the fence line, a mere trim.

Start with the smallest branches, obviously.
Cut from top to bottom, obviously.
Tie ladder to tree with occy strap, obviously.
Blocks of wood under ladder base to ensure it doesn’t tilt to the side, obviously.

What about tying branches off with string from one side of the cut to the other before I cut them to ensure that they fall vertically?
What chain saw?
Would you hire a specialist?

A chain saw is the most dangerous tool you can buy without needing a licence.

I would go with a specialist, and have done in the past, even though I own and can safely operate a chain saw. (I have done a chain saw course.)

When the trees are at an acceptable height, regular pruning will keep them that way.

This, very much this.
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Date: 28/06/2020 12:07:06
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1580500
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

get a specialist. if in doubt about this excellent advice look up tree falling accidents on youtube.

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Date: 28/06/2020 12:11:53
From: party_pants
ID: 1580503
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

mollwollfumble said:


Tie ladder to tree with occy strap, obviously.

I use a ratchet strap or cargo strap with a buckle.

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Date: 28/06/2020 12:13:35
From: dv
ID: 1580505
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

I reckon this is sci.

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Date: 28/06/2020 12:15:31
From: sibeen
ID: 1580506
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Just cut them off at the base. It’ll all be good. What could possibly go wrong.

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Date: 28/06/2020 12:17:11
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1580507
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

dv said:


I reckon this is sci.

More like eng.

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Date: 28/06/2020 12:48:36
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1580519
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Michael V said:


mollwollfumble said:

Got any advice on cutting down gum trees?

Two gum trees in back and side garden on fence line, between house and power lines. Not close to either.
Neither tree has finished growing, about 20 cm diameter at the base.
Sparse foliage, hardly any actually.

I have an 8 metre ladder. I want to buy a chain saw, I’ve never used one.

One of the two trees I’m happy about my ability to cut it down. It’s about 10 metres tall and vertical.
The other tree I’m nervous about. It’s about 12 metres tall and growing on a slant.
I don’t have to cut them off at the base, at two metres high is good enough, above the fence line, a mere trim.

Start with the smallest branches, obviously.
Cut from top to bottom, obviously.
Tie ladder to tree with occy strap, obviously.
Blocks of wood under ladder base to ensure it doesn’t tilt to the side, obviously.

What about tying branches off with string from one side of the cut to the other before I cut them to ensure that they fall vertically?
What chain saw?
Would you hire a specialist?

A chain saw is the most dangerous tool you can buy without needing a licence.

I would go with a specialist, and have done in the past, even though I own and can safely operate a chain saw. (I have done a chain saw course.)

When the trees are at an acceptable height, regular pruning will keep them that way.

> A chain saw is the most dangerous tool you can buy without needing a licence.

That’s why I’ve never owned or used one up until now. But having one would help with my cypresses and another tree as well. I try to keep the tops of these at four metres high.

What do they teach in a chainsaw course? Double cut? Tensioning? Sharpening? How often to oil? Keeping out of the way of falling branches? Tree climbing?

party_pants said:


Only if there is absolutely no danger of branches falling on power lines would I attempt it myself.

Get yourself a small battery chainsaw on a pole, something like this, and trim off small bits at a time so they don’t cause damage when they fall.

https://www.bunnings.com.au/ryobi-18v-one-pole-pruner-skin-only_p0099002

Ta. Yeah, no danger of falling on power lines.
Slight danger of branches falling on roof for the sloping tree. Which is why I want to tie branches off before cutting.

Let’s check weight and blade length for that. 4.3 kg, not too heavy. Telescopic shaft, good. Blade length? Not a clue, doesn’t say. Looks like 200 mm?

“A basic guide is that the chainsaw should be at least 2 inches longer than the thickness of whatever branch or tree is being cut.” A 300 mm blade should do it. 250 mm is possible, but I don’t want to go that small until I’ve actually put a measuring tape on the tree to confirm diameter.

dv said:


I reckon this is sci.

More like Gardening Australia.

PS. My golden rule for handyman work is that if I feel even the slightest bit nervous about doing it, don’t do it.

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Date: 28/06/2020 12:55:27
From: kryten
ID: 1580525
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

mollwollfumble said:


Michael V said:

mollwollfumble said:

Got any advice on cutting down gum trees?

Two gum trees in back and side garden on fence line, between house and power lines. Not close to either.
Neither tree has finished growing, about 20 cm diameter at the base.
Sparse foliage, hardly any actually.

I have an 8 metre ladder. I want to buy a chain saw, I’ve never used one.

One of the two trees I’m happy about my ability to cut it down. It’s about 10 metres tall and vertical.
The other tree I’m nervous about. It’s about 12 metres tall and growing on a slant.
I don’t have to cut them off at the base, at two metres high is good enough, above the fence line, a mere trim.

Start with the smallest branches, obviously.
Cut from top to bottom, obviously.
Tie ladder to tree with occy strap, obviously.
Blocks of wood under ladder base to ensure it doesn’t tilt to the side, obviously.

What about tying branches off with string from one side of the cut to the other before I cut them to ensure that they fall vertically?
What chain saw?
Would you hire a specialist?

A chain saw is the most dangerous tool you can buy without needing a licence.

I would go with a specialist, and have done in the past, even though I own and can safely operate a chain saw. (I have done a chain saw course.)

When the trees are at an acceptable height, regular pruning will keep them that way.

> A chain saw is the most dangerous tool you can buy without needing a licence.

That’s why I’ve never owned or used one up until now. But having one would help with my cypresses and another tree as well. I try to keep the tops of these at four metres high.

What do they teach in a chainsaw course? Double cut? Tensioning? Sharpening? How often to oil? Keeping out of the way of falling branches? Tree climbing?

party_pants said:


Only if there is absolutely no danger of branches falling on power lines would I attempt it myself.

Get yourself a small battery chainsaw on a pole, something like this, and trim off small bits at a time so they don’t cause damage when they fall.

https://www.bunnings.com.au/ryobi-18v-one-pole-pruner-skin-only_p0099002

Ta. Yeah, no danger of falling on power lines.
Slight danger of branches falling on roof for the sloping tree. Which is why I want to tie branches off before cutting.

Let’s check weight and blade length for that. 4.3 kg, not too heavy. Telescopic shaft, good. Blade length? Not a clue, doesn’t say. Looks like 200 mm?

“A basic guide is that the chainsaw should be at least 2 inches longer than the thickness of whatever branch or tree is being cut.” A 300 mm blade should do it. 250 mm is possible, but I don’t want to go that small until I’ve actually put a measuring tape on the tree to confirm diameter.

dv said:


I reckon this is sci.

More like Gardening Australia.

PS. My golden rule for handyman work is that if I feel even the slightest bit nervous about doing it, don’t do it.

Follow your golden rule. Chain saws are way to dangerous for the average home gardener especially working above your head and never off a ladder. I have in my youth fallen out of 3 trees while chain sawing and these were trees out 9in paddocks.

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Date: 28/06/2020 13:04:28
From: Ian
ID: 1580528
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Go for it.

Looks like a job for Bill S’s Safety Saw

:)

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Date: 28/06/2020 13:05:51
From: kryten
ID: 1580530
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

kryten said:


mollwollfumble said:

Michael V said:

Ta. Yeah, no danger of falling on power lines.
Slight danger of branches falling on roof for the sloping tree. Which is why I want to tie branches off before cutting.

Let’s check weight and blade length for that. 4.3 kg, not too heavy. Telescopic shaft, good. Blade length? Not a clue, doesn’t say. Looks like 200 mm?

“A basic guide is that the chainsaw should be at least 2 inches longer than the thickness of whatever branch or tree is being cut.” A 300 mm blade should do it. 250 mm is possible, but I don’t want to go that small until I’ve actually put a measuring tape on the tree to confirm diameter.

dv said:


I reckon this is sci.

More like Gardening Australia.

PS. My golden rule for handyman work is that if I feel even the slightest bit nervous about doing it, don’t do it.

Follow your golden rule. Chain saws are way to dangerous for the average home gardener especially working above your head and never off a ladder. I have in my youth fallen out of 3 trees while chain sawing and these were trees out 9in paddocks.


the

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Date: 28/06/2020 13:07:51
From: kryten
ID: 1580531
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

kryten said:


kryten said:

mollwollfumble said:

More like Gardening Australia.

PS. My golden rule for handyman work is that if I feel even the slightest bit nervous about doing it, don’t do it.

Follow your golden rule. Chain saws are way to dangerous for the average home gardener especially working above your head and never off a ladder. I have in my youth fallen out of 3 trees while chain sawing and these were trees out 9in paddocks.


the

buffy also said check your insurance could be trouble if things go awry

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Date: 28/06/2020 13:08:36
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1580533
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

I live in an area where every ute has a chainsaw in it. All my neighbours have chainsaws. It’s a common event to have to clear the road if you want to get off the mountain early after gale force winds. Even still there has been a few times where I have had a professional come in.

I’d say if you are going to learn to use a chainsaw don’t start with problems.

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Date: 28/06/2020 13:08:44
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1580534
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

And make sure Mrs m has your forum login details to advise us of your demise…

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Date: 28/06/2020 13:13:25
From: dv
ID: 1580536
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Did we do the Irish joke?

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Date: 28/06/2020 13:15:17
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1580537
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

dv said:


Did we do the Irish joke?

LOL, I was just thinking of that.

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Date: 28/06/2020 13:17:51
From: sibeen
ID: 1580538
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

dv said:


Did we do the Irish joke?

Leave me alone!

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Date: 28/06/2020 15:27:56
From: Rule 303
ID: 1580580
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

+ vote for getting a professional.

Are you even allowed to cut down trees? I think most municipalities require a planning permit.

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Date: 28/06/2020 19:00:44
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1580679
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

sarahs mum said:


I live in an area where every ute has a chainsaw in it. All my neighbours have chainsaws. It’s a common event to have to clear the road if you want to get off the mountain early after gale force winds. Even still there has been a few times where I have had a professional come in.

I’d say if you are going to learn to use a chainsaw don’t start with problems.

Good. I’ll start small. Start easy. Start on the ground with small branches. Start with a battery powered pole saw where the chainsaw itself is nowhere near my face. If it gets hard then I’ll call in a professional asap.

Divine Angel said:


And make sure Mrs m has your forum login details to advise us of your demise…

Have to be missy. Not a chance that I can train mrs m up for that job. She only logs on to do email. I can’t even train her up to pay bills online.

> I have in my youth fallen out of 3 trees while chain sawing and these were trees out in paddocks.

Juicy details please.

dv said:


Did we do the Irish joke?

Yes please. The Dave Allen version if you can remember it.

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Date: 28/06/2020 19:59:46
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1580721
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Get someone else to do it or you’ll hack a limb off or kill yourself falling off something.

You need specialist knowledge and tools for this

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Date: 28/06/2020 20:04:40
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1580724
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

wookiemeister said:


Get someone else to do it or you’ll hack a limb off or kill yourself falling off something.

You need specialist knowledge and tools for this

I tried to say that but I don’t think I said it strongly enough.

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Date: 28/06/2020 20:07:41
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1580725
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

wookiemeister said:


Get someone else to do it or you’ll hack a limb off or kill yourself falling off something.

You need specialist knowledge and tools for this

Moll likes to learn on the job, give the man some room and get him a longer ladder.

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Date: 28/06/2020 20:13:47
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1580727
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

sarahs mum said:


wookiemeister said:

Get someone else to do it or you’ll hack a limb off or kill yourself falling off something.

You need specialist knowledge and tools for this

I tried to say that but I don’t think I said it strongly enough.


Im facing a similar problem myself

Ive bought an stihl electric branch lopper to do a basic trim on the lower branches to buy some time and almost got the thing stuck. It took two us pulling back a branch using the fence pole as a pulley to release it.

The tree sits just on the other side of the fence making it real difficult to deliver decisive blows with a chain saw.

There are other problems. I need to cut back so another building can be put in.

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Date: 28/06/2020 20:15:51
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1580729
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Ultimately measures will need to be taken

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Date: 29/06/2020 02:18:29
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1580848
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

PermeateFree said:


wookiemeister said:

Get someone else to do it or you’ll hack a limb off or kill yourself falling off something. You need specialist knowledge and tools for this

Moll likes to learn on the job, give the man some room and get him a longer ladder.

Thank you. (I love to learn, it’s my whole reason for existence).

> … a longer ladder.

And a less dangerous tool. If someone on this forum can fall out of a tree three times while holding a chainsaw and not lose any limbs then it can’t bee too dangerous.

> some specialist

How can I be sure that the specialist isn’t just a suicidal handyman?

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Date: 29/06/2020 05:04:45
From: roughbarked
ID: 1580868
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

mollwollfumble said:


PermeateFree said:

wookiemeister said:

Get someone else to do it or you’ll hack a limb off or kill yourself falling off something. You need specialist knowledge and tools for this

Moll likes to learn on the job, give the man some room and get him a longer ladder.

Thank you. (I love to learn, it’s my whole reason for existence).

> … a longer ladder.

And a less dangerous tool. If someone on this forum can fall out of a tree three times while holding a chainsaw and not lose any limbs then it can’t bee too dangerous.

> some specialist

How can I be sure that the specialist isn’t just a suicidal handyman?

I would like to know who fell out of a tree three times while holding a chainsaw. Must be an acrobat.

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Date: 29/06/2020 05:26:43
From: roughbarked
ID: 1580869
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

roughbarked said:


mollwollfumble said:

PermeateFree said:

Moll likes to learn on the job, give the man some room and get him a longer ladder.

Thank you. (I love to learn, it’s my whole reason for existence).

> … a longer ladder.

And a less dangerous tool. If someone on this forum can fall out of a tree three times while holding a chainsaw and not lose any limbs then it can’t bee too dangerous.

> some specialist

How can I be sure that the specialist isn’t just a suicidal handyman?

I would like to know who fell out of a tree three times while holding a chainsaw. Must be an acrobat.

Anyway, now that I’ve read the thread. We all did brash things in our youth. Me included.

I’m not a fan of ladders. Having done the comic act of running in mid-air after the ladder had folded up and fallen away. To end up with three fractuted vertebrae and two broken ribs.

Photos of the trees and situation may allow others to assess the risks you are dreaming of taking.

I was trained in tree felling by a bloke who was a cedar getter at the age of 14 and spent many years as a sleeper cutter using broad axes and pit saws before training to be a navigator on Sunderlands during the war. After which he became a forester for the rest of his long life.

Taking a tree down from the top is advisable if there are things below it could conceivably land on. Careful calculations and experience aside, things can still go wrong even for the best of us.

Having spoken about ladders, if you observe arborists you should note that they either absail or use a cherry picker.

If one is sure of their skill and experience in felling trees then the best way to drop trees is actually from the bottom end. One can drop a tree between two buildings without hitting either, if one is good at this. I suppose that’s where one can earn the title of specialist.

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Date: 29/06/2020 12:19:31
From: Arts
ID: 1580968
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Jesus fuck, dude, don’t risk it for ‘chainsaw experience’.

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Date: 29/06/2020 12:54:02
From: transition
ID: 1580992
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

I use to be quite enthusiastic with a chainsaw, which resulted in substantial experience, I don’t experience the enthusiasm so much anymore, in fact it’s completely faded, possibly doesn’t exist in me anymore, I sweated it out, over and over, my back spoke to me many times, communicated with the bulb on my shoulders, insisting there was no status in chainsaw competency, so the prowess faded. I think probably part of the attraction was the two-stroke sound, the child in me on the scramble bike, some variation on that

one of the last jobs I did was to cut down a large branch on on big gum, hanging over the road, up a tall extension ladder, full harness, took some prep, so I didn’t embarrassingly injure or kill myself and become a subject of gossip, or perhaps even make it into the newspaper, like a cautionary tale, a do-it-yourself disaster. Humans can be quite interested in other peoples mistakes, they learn from them eagerly, share what-not-to-do stories, a person can spend all day watching them on the tube these days, endless amusement

anyway I did get the branch off, got maybe three months wood out of that, but if I could’ve afforded to get someone else to do it at the time I would have

got some happy snaps of the achievement, posted a few on FB, not only to demonstrate a 50+ could do that, how good I am, but too it was fuck you I didn’t die doing that

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Date: 29/06/2020 12:59:09
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1580998
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

transition said:


I use to be quite enthusiastic with a chainsaw, which resulted in substantial experience, I don’t experience the enthusiasm so much anymore, in fact it’s completely faded, possibly doesn’t exist in me anymore, I sweated it out, over and over, my back spoke to me many times, communicated with the bulb on my shoulders, insisting there was no status in chainsaw competency, so the prowess faded. I think probably part of the attraction was the two-stroke sound, the child in me on the scramble bike, some variation on that

one of the last jobs I did was to cut down a large branch on on big gum, hanging over the road, up a tall extension ladder, full harness, took some prep, so I didn’t embarrassingly injure or kill myself and become a subject of gossip, or perhaps even make it into the newspaper, like a cautionary tale, a do-it-yourself disaster. Humans can be quite interested in other peoples mistakes, they learn from them eagerly, share what-not-to-do stories, a person can spend all day watching them on the tube these days, endless amusement

anyway I did get the branch off, got maybe three months wood out of that, but if I could’ve afforded to get someone else to do it at the time I would have

got some happy snaps of the achievement, posted a few on FB, not only to demonstrate a 50+ could do that, how good I am, but too it was fuck you I didn’t die doing that

Well done, you haven’t lost your enthusiasm for the axe though.

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Date: 29/06/2020 13:00:44
From: Cymek
ID: 1581001
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Chainsaws often feature as weapons in video games, a lesson in that for not using them

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Date: 29/06/2020 13:06:55
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1581005
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Cymek said:


Chainsaws often feature as weapons in video games, a lesson in that for not using them

I’ll bet someone somewhere at some time has said that a chainsaw is a good slave but a bad master.

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Date: 29/06/2020 13:13:21
From: Rule 303
ID: 1581011
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Cymek said:


Chainsaws often feature as weapons in video games, a lesson in that for not using them

Oh stop. They’re one of dozens of saws that humans use, and like most of them, can bite if you’re not paying attention or don’t know what you’re doing. They can react violently if you touch them on the nose, but most people are like that, and we’re not terrified of them.

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Date: 29/06/2020 14:37:59
From: Ian
ID: 1581031
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Molly, felling a 20 cm diameter gum tree is a doddle if you have a bit of chainsaw experience assuming the area it is likely to drop in is clear. If you are going to do it get some practice on some similar diameter logs horizontal on the ground.

I’d go for something like this Makita cordless chainsaw form Bunnings! The battery pack is half the price.. but then you can get a stack of other implements in the range.

250mm
https://www.bunnings.com.au/makita-18v-cordless-chainsaw-kit-with-2-batteries_p3381327

300mm
https://www.bunnings.com.au/makita-18v-cordless-chainsaw-kit-with-2-batteries_p3381327

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Date: 29/06/2020 14:54:00
From: Ian
ID: 1581039
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

And yes, hanging off a ladder attached the tree you are going to fell is not advisable but I’m sure we’ve all many of us have done that.

What’s the maddest thing you’ve attempted up a tree with a chainsaw?

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Date: 29/06/2020 14:55:19
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1581041
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Ian said:


And yes, hanging off a ladder attached the tree you are going to fell is not advisable but I’m sure we’ve all many of us have done that.

What’s the maddest thing you’ve attempted up a tree with a chainsaw?

What happens up a tree stays up a tree.

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Date: 29/06/2020 14:56:29
From: Tamb
ID: 1581043
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Peak Warming Man said:


Ian said:

And yes, hanging off a ladder attached the tree you are going to fell is not advisable but I’m sure we’ve all many of us have done that.

What’s the maddest thing you’ve attempted up a tree with a chainsaw?

What happens up a tree stays up a tree.


I use a bowsaw up trees.

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Date: 29/06/2020 15:01:57
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1581047
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Ian said:


Molly, felling a 20 cm diameter gum tree is a doddle if you have a bit of chainsaw experience assuming the area it is likely to drop in is clear. If you are going to do it get some practice on some similar diameter logs horizontal on the ground.

I’d go for something like this Makita cordless chainsaw form Bunnings! The battery pack is half the price.. but then you can get a stack of other implements in the range.

250mm
https://www.bunnings.com.au/makita-18v-cordless-chainsaw-kit-with-2-batteries_p3381327

300mm
https://www.bunnings.com.au/makita-18v-cordless-chainsaw-kit-with-2-batteries_p3381327

I got the Oregon self sharpening chainsaw, which saves many hassles in getting the blade sharpened, with the Oregon you just pull a lever to sharpen the blade.
https://www.bunnings.com.au/oregon-self-sharpening-chainsaw_p0074352

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Date: 29/06/2020 15:04:44
From: transition
ID: 1581051
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

PermeateFree said:


Ian said:

Molly, felling a 20 cm diameter gum tree is a doddle if you have a bit of chainsaw experience assuming the area it is likely to drop in is clear. If you are going to do it get some practice on some similar diameter logs horizontal on the ground.

I’d go for something like this Makita cordless chainsaw form Bunnings! The battery pack is half the price.. but then you can get a stack of other implements in the range.

250mm
https://www.bunnings.com.au/makita-18v-cordless-chainsaw-kit-with-2-batteries_p3381327

300mm
https://www.bunnings.com.au/makita-18v-cordless-chainsaw-kit-with-2-batteries_p3381327

I got the Oregon self sharpening chainsaw, which saves many hassles in getting the blade sharpened, with the Oregon you just pull a lever to sharpen the blade.
https://www.bunnings.com.au/oregon-self-sharpening-chainsaw_p0074352

jeeez that’d be magic

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Date: 29/06/2020 15:06:44
From: Ian
ID: 1581053
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

PermeateFree said:


Ian said:

Molly, felling a 20 cm diameter gum tree is a doddle if you have a bit of chainsaw experience assuming the area it is likely to drop in is clear. If you are going to do it get some practice on some similar diameter logs horizontal on the ground.

I’d go for something like this Makita cordless chainsaw form Bunnings! The battery pack is half the price.. but then you can get a stack of other implements in the range.

250mm
https://www.bunnings.com.au/makita-18v-cordless-chainsaw-kit-with-2-batteries_p3381327

300mm
https://www.bunnings.com.au/makita-18v-cordless-chainsaw-kit-with-2-batteries_p3381327

I got the Oregon self sharpening chainsaw, which saves many hassles in getting the blade sharpened, with the Oregon you just pull a lever to sharpen the blade.
https://www.bunnings.com.au/oregon-self-sharpening-chainsaw_p0074352

Sounds good, But it’ll need a looooog power lead to reach down the paddock.

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Date: 29/06/2020 15:08:11
From: Rule 303
ID: 1581055
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

PermeateFree said:


Ian said:

Molly, felling a 20 cm diameter gum tree is a doddle if you have a bit of chainsaw experience assuming the area it is likely to drop in is clear. If you are going to do it get some practice on some similar diameter logs horizontal on the ground.

I’d go for something like this Makita cordless chainsaw form Bunnings! The battery pack is half the price.. but then you can get a stack of other implements in the range.

250mm
https://www.bunnings.com.au/makita-18v-cordless-chainsaw-kit-with-2-batteries_p3381327

300mm
https://www.bunnings.com.au/makita-18v-cordless-chainsaw-kit-with-2-batteries_p3381327

I got the Oregon self sharpening chainsaw, which saves many hassles in getting the blade sharpened, with the Oregon you just pull a lever to sharpen the blade.
https://www.bunnings.com.au/oregon-self-sharpening-chainsaw_p0074352

How do you adjust the raker teeth?

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Date: 29/06/2020 15:09:15
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1581056
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Ian said:


PermeateFree said:

Ian said:

Molly, felling a 20 cm diameter gum tree is a doddle if you have a bit of chainsaw experience assuming the area it is likely to drop in is clear. If you are going to do it get some practice on some similar diameter logs horizontal on the ground.

I’d go for something like this Makita cordless chainsaw form Bunnings! The battery pack is half the price.. but then you can get a stack of other implements in the range.

250mm
https://www.bunnings.com.au/makita-18v-cordless-chainsaw-kit-with-2-batteries_p3381327

300mm
https://www.bunnings.com.au/makita-18v-cordless-chainsaw-kit-with-2-batteries_p3381327

I got the Oregon self sharpening chainsaw, which saves many hassles in getting the blade sharpened, with the Oregon you just pull a lever to sharpen the blade.
https://www.bunnings.com.au/oregon-self-sharpening-chainsaw_p0074352

Sounds good, But it’ll need a looooog power lead to reach down the paddock.

Yeah, there is that, unless you got an easily portable genny.

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Date: 29/06/2020 15:10:21
From: Cymek
ID: 1581058
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

I remember my dad getting up real tall gum trees and pruning them via a chainsaw

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Date: 29/06/2020 15:10:25
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1581059
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Ian said:


PermeateFree said:

Ian said:

Molly, felling a 20 cm diameter gum tree is a doddle if you have a bit of chainsaw experience assuming the area it is likely to drop in is clear. If you are going to do it get some practice on some similar diameter logs horizontal on the ground.

I’d go for something like this Makita cordless chainsaw form Bunnings! The battery pack is half the price.. but then you can get a stack of other implements in the range.

250mm
https://www.bunnings.com.au/makita-18v-cordless-chainsaw-kit-with-2-batteries_p3381327

300mm
https://www.bunnings.com.au/makita-18v-cordless-chainsaw-kit-with-2-batteries_p3381327

I got the Oregon self sharpening chainsaw, which saves many hassles in getting the blade sharpened, with the Oregon you just pull a lever to sharpen the blade.
https://www.bunnings.com.au/oregon-self-sharpening-chainsaw_p0074352

Sounds good, But it’ll need a looooog power lead to reach down the paddock.

Small cheap genny in the back of the ute, yeah.

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Date: 29/06/2020 15:10:46
From: Tamb
ID: 1581060
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Ian said:


PermeateFree said:

Ian said:

Molly, felling a 20 cm diameter gum tree is a doddle if you have a bit of chainsaw experience assuming the area it is likely to drop in is clear. If you are going to do it get some practice on some similar diameter logs horizontal on the ground.

I’d go for something like this Makita cordless chainsaw form Bunnings! The battery pack is half the price.. but then you can get a stack of other implements in the range.

250mm
https://www.bunnings.com.au/makita-18v-cordless-chainsaw-kit-with-2-batteries_p3381327

300mm
https://www.bunnings.com.au/makita-18v-cordless-chainsaw-kit-with-2-batteries_p3381327

I got the Oregon self sharpening chainsaw, which saves many hassles in getting the blade sharpened, with the Oregon you just pull a lever to sharpen the blade.
https://www.bunnings.com.au/oregon-self-sharpening-chainsaw_p0074352

Sounds good, But it’ll need a looooog power lead to reach down the paddock.


Take the genny.

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Date: 29/06/2020 15:11:41
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1581061
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Rule 303 said:


PermeateFree said:

Ian said:

Molly, felling a 20 cm diameter gum tree is a doddle if you have a bit of chainsaw experience assuming the area it is likely to drop in is clear. If you are going to do it get some practice on some similar diameter logs horizontal on the ground.

I’d go for something like this Makita cordless chainsaw form Bunnings! The battery pack is half the price.. but then you can get a stack of other implements in the range.

250mm
https://www.bunnings.com.au/makita-18v-cordless-chainsaw-kit-with-2-batteries_p3381327

300mm
https://www.bunnings.com.au/makita-18v-cordless-chainsaw-kit-with-2-batteries_p3381327

I got the Oregon self sharpening chainsaw, which saves many hassles in getting the blade sharpened, with the Oregon you just pull a lever to sharpen the blade.
https://www.bunnings.com.au/oregon-self-sharpening-chainsaw_p0074352

How do you adjust the raker teeth?

Never had to, but if it got to that, a new chain which is easily fitted might be the option.

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Date: 29/06/2020 15:18:39
From: Rule 303
ID: 1581064
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

PermeateFree said:


Rule 303 said:

PermeateFree said:

I got the Oregon self sharpening chainsaw, which saves many hassles in getting the blade sharpened, with the Oregon you just pull a lever to sharpen the blade.
https://www.bunnings.com.au/oregon-self-sharpening-chainsaw_p0074352

How do you adjust the raker teeth?

Never had to, but if it got to that, a new chain which is easily fitted might be the option.

Each time you sharpen it the chips will get thinner, so the rate of material removal will drop, causing un-neccesary wear, and then you will replace a chain that’s still got plenty of life left on it. Might be worth looking into that, there will be an easy solution.

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Date: 29/06/2020 15:20:55
From: kryten
ID: 1581067
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-29/mans-leg-amputated-by-rope-caught-in-woodchipper/12403122

Not exactly a chain saw, but even professionals stuff. Moll let them lose a leg or what ever that’s why they pay insurance

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Date: 29/06/2020 15:33:10
From: Rule 303
ID: 1581077
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

kryten said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-29/mans-leg-amputated-by-rope-caught-in-woodchipper/12403122

Not exactly a chain saw, but even professionals stuff. Moll let them lose a leg or what ever that’s why they pay insurance

Nasty. Sounds like he got good first aid, though.

I reckon I know how that happens.

Demonstration of a climber’s rope being fed into a chipper

(youtube video of a dummy)

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Date: 29/06/2020 15:39:07
From: PermeateFree
ID: 1581083
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Rule 303 said:


PermeateFree said:

Rule 303 said:

How do you adjust the raker teeth?

Never had to, but if it got to that, a new chain which is easily fitted might be the option.

Each time you sharpen it the chips will get thinner, so the rate of material removal will drop, causing un-neccesary wear, and then you will replace a chain that’s still got plenty of life left on it. Might be worth looking into that, there will be an easy solution.

Chains are not that expensive these days, quite cheap in fact.

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Date: 29/06/2020 15:41:02
From: transition
ID: 1581085
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Rule 303 said:


kryten said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-29/mans-leg-amputated-by-rope-caught-in-woodchipper/12403122

Not exactly a chain saw, but even professionals stuff. Moll let them lose a leg or what ever that’s why they pay insurance

Nasty. Sounds like he got good first aid, though.

I reckon I know how that happens.

Demonstration of a climber’s rope being fed into a chipper

(youtube video of a dummy)

good one, quite destructively instructive

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Date: 29/06/2020 15:47:05
From: Michael V
ID: 1581094
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

kryten said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-29/mans-leg-amputated-by-rope-caught-in-woodchipper/12403122

Not exactly a chain saw, but even professionals stuff. Moll let them lose a leg or what ever that’s why they pay insurance

Ouch!

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Date: 29/06/2020 15:55:09
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 1581100
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

How it’s done, by professionals.
Do not try this at home!

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Date: 29/06/2020 17:41:43
From: Ian
ID: 1581136
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

What’s the maddest thing you’ve attempted up a tree with a chainsaw?

Oright, since you ask, I’ll tell you.

A big old ~ 45 m tall ironbark needed to be removed prior to building this house.

The 25 tonne traxcavator had spent about 4 hours trying to root out the tree and had only succeeded in tilting it over by about 50 degrees completely burying itself in the process. The operator suggested that I clamber up the slope of the trunk and cut off one of the large branches.

I reluctantly agreed to this and went and got the chainsaw tensioned and warmed up. I switched off the saw and carefully climbed up the trunk.. this was a bloody huge tree and I must have been 7 or 8 m in the air. I drop-started the saw and proceeded to gingerly cut one side then the other of branch until I reckoned that to saw any further would cause it to fall. I climbed down, trying to look totally unfazed by the effort so far, and signalled to the bloke to give the tree a good shake. Thankfully the branch dropped.

…Then it was suggested that I get in the hole underneath the tree and saw through a big branch partially buried in the ground….

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Date: 29/06/2020 23:58:22
From: wookiemeister
ID: 1581297
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

https://mol.im/a/8469645

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Date: 30/06/2020 06:13:45
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1581328
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

PermeateFree said:


Ian said:

Molly, felling a 20 cm diameter gum tree is a doddle if you have a bit of chainsaw experience assuming the area it is likely to drop in is clear. If you are going to do it get some practice on some similar diameter logs horizontal on the ground.

I’d go for something like this Makita cordless chainsaw form Bunnings! The battery pack is half the price.. but then you can get a stack of other implements in the range.

250mm
https://www.bunnings.com.au/makita-18v-cordless-chainsaw-kit-with-2-batteries_p3381327

300mm
https://www.bunnings.com.au/makita-18v-cordless-chainsaw-kit-with-2-batteries_p3381327

I got the Oregon self sharpening chainsaw, which saves many hassles in getting the blade sharpened, with the Oregon you just pull a lever to sharpen the blade.
https://www.bunnings.com.au/oregon-self-sharpening-chainsaw_p0074352

> to do it get some practice on some similar diameter logs horizontal on the ground.

Plan to. It’d be madness to go straight up a tree without trying logs on the ground first.

I’d love the Makita but am too baulked at the price. By $700 I’d be starting to talk about a similar price for hiring someone. Unless hiring someone requires a nine month wait on getting council approval, of course.

Wait on! Same Makita battery pack as a cordless drill? Need to check – 18 volts. My Makita cordless is 18 V as well. $350 for a 250 mm Makita using existing batteries doesn’t look impossible. Makita batteries come in three different Amp-hr ratings but look interchangeable.

> it’ll need a looooog power lead to reach down the paddock.

I bought a long cord last year specifically for that purpose, then baulked at getting the chainsaw.

party_pants said:


mollwollfumble said:

Tie ladder to tree with occy strap, obviously.

I use a ratchet strap or cargo strap with a buckle.

> or full harness

Noted.

party_pants said:


Only if there is absolutely no danger of branches falling on power lines would I attempt it myself.

Get yourself a small battery chainsaw on a pole, something like this, and trim off small bits at a time so they don’t cause damage when they fall.

https://www.bunnings.com.au/ryobi-18v-one-pole-pruner-skin-only_p0099002

Something this small might be safer for a novice. Any branch above 50 mm thick gets to be a pain with a pruning saw.

Ian said:


What’s the maddest thing you’ve attempted up a tree with a chainsaw?

Oright, since you ask, I’ll tell you.

A big old ~ 45 m tall ironbark needed to be removed prior to building this house.

The 25 tonne traxcavator had spent about 4 hours trying to root out the tree and had only succeeded in tilting it over by about 50 degrees completely burying itself in the process. The operator suggested that I clamber up the slope of the trunk and cut off one of the large branches.

I reluctantly agreed to this and went and got the chainsaw tensioned and warmed up. I switched off the saw and carefully climbed up the trunk.. this was a bloody huge tree and I must have been 7 or 8 m in the air. I drop-started the saw and proceeded to gingerly cut one side then the other of branch until I reckoned that to saw any further would cause it to fall. I climbed down, trying to look totally unfazed by the effort so far, and signalled to the bloke to give the tree a good shake. Thankfully the branch dropped.

…Then it was suggested that I get in the hole underneath the tree and saw through a big branch partially buried in the ground….

Yep. Good one.

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Date: 30/06/2020 21:30:57
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1581741
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Looked at the 200 mm pole saw – too heavy
Looked at the 250 mm Makita – tiny, even my cordless drill is bigger than that. Looks like a suitable toy for a six year old, but probably need to be 12 years old to operate it safely.

> 300mm
> https://www.bunnings.com.au/makita-18v-cordless-chainsaw-kit-with-2-batteries_p3381327

Went to buy this, sans batteries, today – sold out.

Then visited 72 yo friend of mrs m who said “do you want to borrow mine?”
Petrol rather than batteries so more dangerous. But otherwise identical, eg. same weight.
I said yes.

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Date: 30/06/2020 22:03:34
From: Michael V
ID: 1581745
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

mollwollfumble said:


Looked at the 200 mm pole saw – too heavy
Looked at the 250 mm Makita – tiny, even my cordless drill is bigger than that. Looks like a suitable toy for a six year old, but probably need to be 12 years old to operate it safely.

> 300mm
> https://www.bunnings.com.au/makita-18v-cordless-chainsaw-kit-with-2-batteries_p3381327

Went to buy this, sans batteries, today – sold out.

Then visited 72 yo friend of mrs m who said “do you want to borrow mine?”
Petrol rather than batteries so more dangerous. But otherwise identical, eg. same weight.
I said yes.

Good luck. Please take lots of care. Chain saws are not forgiving if something goes wrong.

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Date: 30/06/2020 22:05:36
From: Michael V
ID: 1581746
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Michael V said:


mollwollfumble said:

Looked at the 200 mm pole saw – too heavy
Looked at the 250 mm Makita – tiny, even my cordless drill is bigger than that. Looks like a suitable toy for a six year old, but probably need to be 12 years old to operate it safely.

> 300mm
> https://www.bunnings.com.au/makita-18v-cordless-chainsaw-kit-with-2-batteries_p3381327

Went to buy this, sans batteries, today – sold out.

Then visited 72 yo friend of mrs m who said “do you want to borrow mine?”
Petrol rather than batteries so more dangerous. But otherwise identical, eg. same weight.
I said yes.

Good luck. Please take lots of care. Chain saws are not forgiving if something goes wrong.

Even moreso when up a ladder…

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Date: 30/06/2020 22:25:46
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1581749
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Michael V said:


Michael V said:

mollwollfumble said:

Looked at the 200 mm pole saw – too heavy
Looked at the 250 mm Makita – tiny, even my cordless drill is bigger than that. Looks like a suitable toy for a six year old, but probably need to be 12 years old to operate it safely.

> 300mm
> https://www.bunnings.com.au/makita-18v-cordless-chainsaw-kit-with-2-batteries_p3381327

Went to buy this, sans batteries, today – sold out.

Then visited 72 yo friend of mrs m who said “do you want to borrow mine?”
Petrol rather than batteries so more dangerous. But otherwise identical, eg. same weight.
I said yes.

Good luck. Please take lots of care. Chain saws are not forgiving if something goes wrong.

Even moreso when up a ladder…

Have found the operating manual for this particular model of chainsaw on the web.

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Date: 30/06/2020 23:24:02
From: Ian
ID: 1581771
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Have found the operating manual for this particular model of chainsaw on the web.

As others have said take extreme care.

Get the feel of the thing on light logs/branches.
Find out how easy it is to jam the blade/chain.
Practice cutting with the “wrong side of the chain” and the tip
LEARN HOW TO AVOID INJURY DUE TO KICKBACK and spring loaded branches, falling trees etc etc

Have fun

:)

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Date: 1/07/2020 05:48:25
From: roughbarked
ID: 1581794
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

mollwollfumble said:


Michael V said:

Michael V said:

Good luck. Please take lots of care. Chain saws are not forgiving if something goes wrong.

Even moreso when up a ladder…

Have found the operating manual for this particular model of chainsaw on the web.

It is a piece of shit. I took mine back to Bunnings and asked for my money back. They called their expert and he asked me why. I said pull the cover off and have a look at the chain temsioner. He did that and gave me my money back.

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Date: 1/07/2020 10:23:53
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1581860
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Ian said:


Have found the operating manual for this particular model of chainsaw on the web.

As others have said take extreme care.

Get the feel of the thing on light logs/branches.
Find out how easy it is to jam the blade/chain.
Practice cutting with the “wrong side of the chain” and the tip
LEARN HOW TO AVOID INJURY DUE TO KICKBACK and spring loaded branches, falling trees etc etc

Have fun

:)

This morning I got someone who owns and uses a petrol chainsaw (he uses a slightly larger one) to check it out for me.

The chain is sharp, looks new. It’s tensioned correctly. The kickback guard is working properly. It has plenty of oil. It has plenty of the correct two stroke petrol-oil mixture. He started it three times without trouble.

All set to go. Saturday week. Haven’t got anything to use it on until then. Unless I sneak into someone else’s yard in the middle of the night, and probably better not to do that.

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Date: 1/07/2020 10:30:04
From: Cymek
ID: 1581862
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

mollwollfumble said:


Ian said:

Have found the operating manual for this particular model of chainsaw on the web.

As others have said take extreme care.

Get the feel of the thing on light logs/branches.
Find out how easy it is to jam the blade/chain.
Practice cutting with the “wrong side of the chain” and the tip
LEARN HOW TO AVOID INJURY DUE TO KICKBACK and spring loaded branches, falling trees etc etc

Have fun

:)

This morning I got someone who owns and uses a petrol chainsaw (he uses a slightly larger one) to check it out for me.

The chain is sharp, looks new. It’s tensioned correctly. The kickback guard is working properly. It has plenty of oil. It has plenty of the correct two stroke petrol-oil mixture. He started it three times without trouble.

All set to go. Saturday week. Haven’t got anything to use it on until then. Unless I sneak into someone else’s yard in the middle of the night, and probably better not to do that.

Can you strap it to your arm to kill attacking zombies/deadites

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Date: 1/07/2020 10:43:46
From: Rule 303
ID: 1581870
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

mollwollfumble said:


Ian said:

Have found the operating manual for this particular model of chainsaw on the web.

As others have said take extreme care.

Get the feel of the thing on light logs/branches.
Find out how easy it is to jam the blade/chain.
Practice cutting with the “wrong side of the chain” and the tip
LEARN HOW TO AVOID INJURY DUE TO KICKBACK and spring loaded branches, falling trees etc etc

Have fun

:)

This morning I got someone who owns and uses a petrol chainsaw (he uses a slightly larger one) to check it out for me.

The chain is sharp, looks new. It’s tensioned correctly. The kickback guard is working properly. It has plenty of oil. It has plenty of the correct two stroke petrol-oil mixture. He started it three times without trouble.

All set to go. Saturday week. Haven’t got anything to use it on until then. Unless I sneak into someone else’s yard in the middle of the night, and probably better not to do that.

Are you sure you don’t need a planning permit to cut down these trees?

In most municipalities, trees of that height and trunk will require a planning permit.

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Date: 1/07/2020 10:47:05
From: Rule 303
ID: 1581874
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

These guys for example, copped a $14,000 fine for removing a tree before the planning permit was issued.

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Date: 1/07/2020 10:55:07
From: Tamb
ID: 1581881
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Rule 303 said:


These guys for example, copped a $14,000 fine for removing a tree before the planning permit was issued.

It’s Dicktoria. What did you expect.

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Date: 1/07/2020 11:01:15
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1581887
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Rule 303 said:


mollwollfumble said:

Ian said:

Have found the operating manual for this particular model of chainsaw on the web.

As others have said take extreme care.

Get the feel of the thing on light logs/branches.
Find out how easy it is to jam the blade/chain.
Practice cutting with the “wrong side of the chain” and the tip
LEARN HOW TO AVOID INJURY DUE TO KICKBACK and spring loaded branches, falling trees etc etc

Have fun

:)

This morning I got someone who owns and uses a petrol chainsaw (he uses a slightly larger one) to check it out for me.

The chain is sharp, looks new. It’s tensioned correctly. The kickback guard is working properly. It has plenty of oil. It has plenty of the correct two stroke petrol-oil mixture. He started it three times without trouble.

All set to go. Saturday week. Haven’t got anything to use it on until then. Unless I sneak into someone else’s yard in the middle of the night, and probably better not to do that.

Are you sure you don’t need a planning permit to cut down these trees?

In most municipalities, trees of that height and trunk will require a planning permit.

Shh. This is a trim, kapish?

I have known council approval to take 12 months. And in another case was knocked back completely despite being already responsible for many broken tiles (falling pine cones), way too close to the house, diseased, and non-native.

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Date: 1/07/2020 11:03:15
From: Cymek
ID: 1581891
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

mollwollfumble said:


Rule 303 said:

mollwollfumble said:

This morning I got someone who owns and uses a petrol chainsaw (he uses a slightly larger one) to check it out for me.

The chain is sharp, looks new. It’s tensioned correctly. The kickback guard is working properly. It has plenty of oil. It has plenty of the correct two stroke petrol-oil mixture. He started it three times without trouble.

All set to go. Saturday week. Haven’t got anything to use it on until then. Unless I sneak into someone else’s yard in the middle of the night, and probably better not to do that.

Are you sure you don’t need a planning permit to cut down these trees?

In most municipalities, trees of that height and trunk will require a planning permit.

Shh. This is a trim, kapish?

I have known council approval to take 12 months. And in another case was knocked back completely despite being already responsible for many broken tiles (falling pine cones), way too close to the house, diseased, and non-native.

Can you use C4 instead

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Date: 1/07/2020 11:07:00
From: Tamb
ID: 1581893
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Cymek said:


mollwollfumble said:

Rule 303 said:

Are you sure you don’t need a planning permit to cut down these trees?

In most municipalities, trees of that height and trunk will require a planning permit.

Shh. This is a trim, kapish?

I have known council approval to take 12 months. And in another case was knocked back completely despite being already responsible for many broken tiles (falling pine cones), way too close to the house, diseased, and non-native.

Can you use C4 instead


My shot firer son did something like that.
Got up the tree, looped some det cord around it & blam, tree crown came down.

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Date: 1/07/2020 11:11:12
From: Rule 303
ID: 1581895
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Tamb said:


Rule 303 said:

These guys for example, copped a $14,000 fine for removing a tree before the planning permit was issued.

It’s Dicktoria. What did you expect.

That’s fair.

We get everything else, you get the permission to chop down trees.

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Date: 1/07/2020 11:17:40
From: Rule 303
ID: 1581897
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

mollwollfumble said:


Rule 303 said:

mollwollfumble said:

This morning I got someone who owns and uses a petrol chainsaw (he uses a slightly larger one) to check it out for me.

The chain is sharp, looks new. It’s tensioned correctly. The kickback guard is working properly. It has plenty of oil. It has plenty of the correct two stroke petrol-oil mixture. He started it three times without trouble.

All set to go. Saturday week. Haven’t got anything to use it on until then. Unless I sneak into someone else’s yard in the middle of the night, and probably better not to do that.

Are you sure you don’t need a planning permit to cut down these trees?

In most municipalities, trees of that height and trunk will require a planning permit.

Shh. This is a trim, kapish?

I have known council approval to take 12 months. And in another case was knocked back completely despite being already responsible for many broken tiles (falling pine cones), way too close to the house, diseased, and non-native.

The sound of a chainsaw in the backyard and the trees falling over tends to be a bit of a give-away, mate. Even if you get away with it at the time, it only takes one pissed off neighbour or one satellite photo and your goose is cooked.

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Date: 1/07/2020 11:20:53
From: Tamb
ID: 1581899
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Rule 303 said:


mollwollfumble said:

Rule 303 said:

Are you sure you don’t need a planning permit to cut down these trees?

In most municipalities, trees of that height and trunk will require a planning permit.

Shh. This is a trim, kapish?

I have known council approval to take 12 months. And in another case was knocked back completely despite being already responsible for many broken tiles (falling pine cones), way too close to the house, diseased, and non-native.

The sound of a chainsaw in the backyard and the trees falling over tends to be a bit of a give-away, mate. Even if you get away with it at the time, it only takes one pissed off neighbour or one satellite photo and your goose is cooked.


I had an officially dangerous tree in the back yard. It was removed by a professional for $200. House insurance covered the cost.

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Date: 1/07/2020 11:22:21
From: dv
ID: 1581902
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Rule 303 said:


mollwollfumble said:

Rule 303 said:

Are you sure you don’t need a planning permit to cut down these trees?

In most municipalities, trees of that height and trunk will require a planning permit.

Shh. This is a trim, kapish?

I have known council approval to take 12 months. And in another case was knocked back completely despite being already responsible for many broken tiles (falling pine cones), way too close to the house, diseased, and non-native.

The sound of a chainsaw in the backyard and the trees falling over tends to be a bit of a give-away, mate. Even if you get away with it at the time, it only takes one pissed off neighbour or one satellite photo and your goose is cooked.

“Dearie dearie me, worst case of Dutch elm I’ve ever seen, killed so many of my dears”
-“Sir, Dutch Elm disease is not known in Australia and only affects elms”
“Dearie dearie me”

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Date: 1/07/2020 11:24:34
From: Tamb
ID: 1581903
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

dv said:


Rule 303 said:

mollwollfumble said:

Shh. This is a trim, kapish?

I have known council approval to take 12 months. And in another case was knocked back completely despite being already responsible for many broken tiles (falling pine cones), way too close to the house, diseased, and non-native.

The sound of a chainsaw in the backyard and the trees falling over tends to be a bit of a give-away, mate. Even if you get away with it at the time, it only takes one pissed off neighbour or one satellite photo and your goose is cooked.

“Dearie dearie me, worst case of Dutch elm I’ve ever seen, killed so many of my dears”
-“Sir, Dutch Elm disease is not known in Australia and only affects elms”
“Dearie dearie me”


Tell them your next door neighbour is Dutch & he brought it with him.

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Date: 1/07/2020 11:25:46
From: furious
ID: 1581905
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Tamb said:


dv said:

Rule 303 said:

The sound of a chainsaw in the backyard and the trees falling over tends to be a bit of a give-away, mate. Even if you get away with it at the time, it only takes one pissed off neighbour or one satellite photo and your goose is cooked.

“Dearie dearie me, worst case of Dutch elm I’ve ever seen, killed so many of my dears”
-“Sir, Dutch Elm disease is not known in Australia and only affects elms”
“Dearie dearie me”


Tell them your next door neighbour is Dutch & he brought it with him.

Does he have a plan?

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Date: 1/07/2020 11:32:00
From: Cymek
ID: 1581913
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Can you dress up as ninja replete with night vision goggles and do it at night and that way they can’t necessarily blame you, complicated but those plans work the best

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Date: 1/07/2020 11:34:15
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1581918
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

dv said:


Rule 303 said:

mollwollfumble said:

Shh. This is a trim, kapish?

I have known council approval to take 12 months. And in another case was knocked back completely despite being already responsible for many broken tiles (falling pine cones), way too close to the house, diseased, and non-native.

The sound of a chainsaw in the backyard and the trees falling over tends to be a bit of a give-away, mate. Even if you get away with it at the time, it only takes one pissed off neighbour or one satellite photo and your goose is cooked.

“Dearie dearie me, worst case of Dutch elm I’ve ever seen, killed so many of my dears”
-“Sir, Dutch Elm disease is not known in Australia and only affects elms”
“Dearie dearie me”

But we do have elm beetles which cause quite a lot of damage to leaves.

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Date: 1/07/2020 11:45:40
From: Rule 303
ID: 1581924
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Cymek said:


Can you dress up as ninja replete with night vision goggles and do it at night and that way they can’t necessarily blame you, complicated but those plans work the best

At night, so he can’t see what he’s doing? Perfect!

At this stage it’s become a social experiment in how much risk he’s willing to take. Can we get some live powerlines involved as well? Murder-hornets?

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Date: 1/07/2020 11:47:06
From: furious
ID: 1581926
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Rule 303 said:


Cymek said:

Can you dress up as ninja replete with night vision goggles and do it at night and that way they can’t necessarily blame you, complicated but those plans work the best

At night, so he can’t see what he’s doing? Perfect!

At this stage it’s become a social experiment in how much risk he’s willing to take. Can we get some live powerlines involved as well? Murder-hornets?

When you have problem species, the best thing to do is introduce a natural predator to sort it out. In this case the predator of choice would be fire. What could possibly go wrong?

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Date: 1/07/2020 11:47:07
From: Tamb
ID: 1581927
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Rule 303 said:


Cymek said:

Can you dress up as ninja replete with night vision goggles and do it at night and that way they can’t necessarily blame you, complicated but those plans work the best

At night, so he can’t see what he’s doing? Perfect!

At this stage it’s become a social experiment in how much risk he’s willing to take. Can we get some live powerlines involved as well? Murder-hornets?


Neighbours with a meth lab?

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Date: 1/07/2020 11:53:09
From: Tamb
ID: 1581928
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

furious said:


Rule 303 said:

Cymek said:

Can you dress up as ninja replete with night vision goggles and do it at night and that way they can’t necessarily blame you, complicated but those plans work the best

At night, so he can’t see what he’s doing? Perfect!

At this stage it’s become a social experiment in how much risk he’s willing to take. Can we get some live powerlines involved as well? Murder-hornets?

When you have problem species, the best thing to do is introduce a natural predator to sort it out. In this case the predator of choice would be fire. What could possibly go wrong?


You’d need a permit.

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Date: 1/07/2020 11:53:59
From: furious
ID: 1581929
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Tamb said:


furious said:

Rule 303 said:

At night, so he can’t see what he’s doing? Perfect!

At this stage it’s become a social experiment in how much risk he’s willing to take. Can we get some live powerlines involved as well? Murder-hornets?

When you have problem species, the best thing to do is introduce a natural predator to sort it out. In this case the predator of choice would be fire. What could possibly go wrong?


You’d need a permit.

I’d thought we’d moved beyond the realms of sensible…

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Date: 1/07/2020 11:59:10
From: Arts
ID: 1581931
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

the trouble is we only ever hear about the DIY stuff that goes wrong, you never hear of the ones where nothing happened and the person got away with it without a permit… or even the ones where the person slightly injured themselves.. unless its a slow news day … I wonder if we’ll ever get one of them again?

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Date: 1/07/2020 11:59:26
From: Rule 303
ID: 1581932
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

furious said:


Tamb said:

furious said:

When you have problem species, the best thing to do is introduce a natural predator to sort it out. In this case the predator of choice would be fire. What could possibly go wrong?


You’d need a permit.

I’d thought we’d moved beyond the realms of sensible…

Passed it at the first post.

Now he just needs a Brush-tailed Possum tied to the family jewels by a shoelace.

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Date: 1/07/2020 12:00:09
From: Michael V
ID: 1581933
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

furious said:


Tamb said:

furious said:

When you have problem species, the best thing to do is introduce a natural predator to sort it out. In this case the predator of choice would be fire. What could possibly go wrong?


You’d need a permit.

I’d thought we’d moved beyond the realms of sensible…

Certainly have.

A chainsaw novice up a ladder, tied to a tree with occy-straps, removing limbs and then bits of trunk, is not in any way sensible.

Even using a bow saw for the job reduces the risk.

I seriously hope moll is just trolling for fun, because his proposal is stupid to the max.

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Date: 1/07/2020 12:21:44
From: kryten
ID: 1581943
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Rule 303 said:


furious said:

Tamb said:

You’d need a permit.

I’d thought we’d moved beyond the realms of sensible…

Passed it at the first post.

Now he just needs a Brush-tailed Possum tied to the family jewels by a shoelace.

You could always tell the police that there is a hidden hollow in the tree and you are sure you saw a criminal type hide a pistol in the hollow. The soon lop the tree to the right height and at no expense to you :)

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Date: 1/07/2020 12:24:53
From: Rule 303
ID: 1581948
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

kryten said:


Rule 303 said:

furious said:

I’d thought we’d moved beyond the realms of sensible…

Passed it at the first post.

Now he just needs a Brush-tailed Possum tied to the family jewels by a shoelace.

You could always tell the police that there is a hidden hollow in the tree and you are sure you saw a criminal type hide a pistol in the hollow. The soon lop the tree to the right height and at no expense to you :)

Yay! Let’s add making false statements to Police to list.

I wonder if we could get a plane to crash into the tree while he’s up there, too?

:-)

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Date: 1/07/2020 12:26:30
From: kryten
ID: 1581951
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Rule 303 said:


kryten said:

Rule 303 said:

Passed it at the first post.

Now he just needs a Brush-tailed Possum tied to the family jewels by a shoelace.

You could always tell the police that there is a hidden hollow in the tree and you are sure you saw a criminal type hide a pistol in the hollow. The soon lop the tree to the right height and at no expense to you :)

Yay! Let’s add making false statements to Police to list.

I wonder if we could get a plane to crash into the tree while he’s up there, too?

:-)

It might work is he lives anywhere near Moorabbin airport

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Date: 1/07/2020 12:39:13
From: Rule 303
ID: 1581957
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

kryten said:


Rule 303 said:

kryten said:

You could always tell the police that there is a hidden hollow in the tree and you are sure you saw a criminal type hide a pistol in the hollow. The soon lop the tree to the right height and at no expense to you :)

Yay! Let’s add making false statements to Police to list.

I wonder if we could get a plane to crash into the tree while he’s up there, too?

:-)

It might work is he lives anywhere near Moorabbin airport

He does! I’ve got a mate who flies ultralights up near there.

Oh, wait, he’s already crashed into a house. Sorry.

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Date: 1/07/2020 12:41:26
From: captain_spalding
ID: 1581959
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

A course of discreet and careful injections of undiluted Round-Up into a convenient part of the tree.

‘Oh, gosh, the tree’s died!’

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Date: 1/07/2020 12:44:41
From: kryten
ID: 1581960
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Damn

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Date: 1/07/2020 12:46:10
From: furious
ID: 1581961
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

kryten said:


Damn

Are you suggesting that he get a beaver to take care of it?

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Date: 1/07/2020 12:55:59
From: Ian
ID: 1581970
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

I just hope we’re going to see photos.. lots of photos..

Or even better, a video with an audio track of original music played on a plastic viola (make sure you do that bit first moll)

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Date: 1/07/2020 12:59:04
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1581973
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Ian said:


I just hope we’re going to see photos.. lots of photos..

Or even better, a video with an audio track of original music played on a plastic viola (make sure you do that bit first moll)

Here’s a photo of the tree.
Here’s a photo of the big chainsaw.
Here’s a photo of the tree and the ladder.
Here’s a photo of the ambulance.

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Date: 1/07/2020 12:59:07
From: Cymek
ID: 1581974
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Ian said:


I just hope we’re going to see photos.. lots of photos..

Or even better, a video with an audio track of original music played on a plastic viola (make sure you do that bit first moll)

Yes in case he doesn’t come back

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Date: 1/07/2020 13:00:24
From: Cymek
ID: 1581975
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Peak Warming Man said:


Ian said:

I just hope we’re going to see photos.. lots of photos..

Or even better, a video with an audio track of original music played on a plastic viola (make sure you do that bit first moll)

Here’s a photo of the tree.
Here’s a photo of the big chainsaw.
Here’s a photo of the tree and the ladder.
Here’s a photo of the ambulance.

Speed up with Benny Hill music

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Date: 1/07/2020 13:03:23
From: Michael V
ID: 1581977
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Peak Warming Man said:


Ian said:

I just hope we’re going to see photos.. lots of photos..

Or even better, a video with an audio track of original music played on a plastic viola (make sure you do that bit first moll)

Here’s a photo of the tree.
Here’s a photo of the big chainsaw.
Here’s a photo of the tree and the ladder.
Here’s a photo of the ambulance.

I’d laugh if it weren’t so serious.

Oops. I laughed…

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Date: 2/07/2020 05:34:43
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1582336
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Peak Warming Man said:


Ian said:

I just hope we’re going to see photos.. lots of photos..

Or even better, a video with an audio track of original music played on a plastic viola (make sure you do that bit first moll)

Here’s a photo of the tree.
Here’s a photo of the big chainsaw.
Here’s a photo of the tree and the ladder.
Here’s a photo of the ambulance.

Storm in a teacup.

I’m going to need a ratchet strap, climbing rope, harness and instructions for using them.

I don’t have those yet. Particularly, I don’t have instructions on using them.

I can’t do anything without that.

A full harness is way outside my price range.

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Date: 2/07/2020 06:04:12
From: roughbarked
ID: 1582337
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

mollwollfumble said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Ian said:

I just hope we’re going to see photos.. lots of photos..

Or even better, a video with an audio track of original music played on a plastic viola (make sure you do that bit first moll)

Here’s a photo of the tree.
Here’s a photo of the big chainsaw.
Here’s a photo of the tree and the ladder.
Here’s a photo of the ambulance.

Storm in a teacup.

I’m going to need a ratchet strap, climbing rope, harness and instructions for using them.

I don’t have those yet. Particularly, I don’t have instructions on using them.

I can’t do anything without that.

A full harness is way outside my price range.

Once you get it sorted and still have arms and legs, please come and do mine. I’ve got a E. melliodora that is a good 25m tall with several main branches. It is only 12m from my house.

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Date: 2/07/2020 07:20:34
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1582351
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Dude, seriously. Call a professional.

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Date: 2/07/2020 07:25:51
From: roughbarked
ID: 1582354
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Divine Angel said:


Dude, seriously. Call a professional.

Hey, I’m 67. Think Mollwoll is a tad older. I’ve shimmied up lots of trees and dropped heaps with no serious damage to pride body or tools, in my younger days.
I have a fear of ladders failing after having done that.
I’ll probably sell the place and let someone else deal with the tree. If left alone it may last a good while longer before becoming a problem. I mean to say that if the termites haven’t got at it by now, it should be a good while yet before they do eventually find an entry point.

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Date: 2/07/2020 07:29:51
From: Divine Angel
ID: 1582359
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

roughbarked said:


Divine Angel said:

Dude, seriously. Call a professional.

Hey, I’m 67. Think Mollwoll is a tad older. I’ve shimmied up lots of trees and dropped heaps with no serious damage to pride body or tools, in my younger days.
I have a fear of ladders failing after having done that.
I’ll probably sell the place and let someone else deal with the tree. If left alone it may last a good while longer before becoming a problem. I mean to say that if the termites haven’t got at it by now, it should be a good while yet before they do eventually find an entry point.

Yes… but he hasn’t. He is a newbie. My previous post was in response to moll.

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Date: 2/07/2020 07:33:23
From: roughbarked
ID: 1582361
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Divine Angel said:


roughbarked said:

Divine Angel said:

Dude, seriously. Call a professional.

Hey, I’m 67. Think Mollwoll is a tad older. I’ve shimmied up lots of trees and dropped heaps with no serious damage to pride body or tools, in my younger days.
I have a fear of ladders failing after having done that.
I’ll probably sell the place and let someone else deal with the tree. If left alone it may last a good while longer before becoming a problem. I mean to say that if the termites haven’t got at it by now, it should be a good while yet before they do eventually find an entry point.

Yes… but he hasn’t. He is a newbie. My previous post was in response to moll.

Seriously yes. I’m getting a bit or a lot more wary in my dotage. Not a good time of life to start thinking one is 17 agaiin.

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Date: 2/07/2020 08:11:06
From: roughbarked
ID: 1582366
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

roughbarked said:


Divine Angel said:

roughbarked said:

Hey, I’m 67. Think Mollwoll is a tad older. I’ve shimmied up lots of trees and dropped heaps with no serious damage to pride body or tools, in my younger days.
I have a fear of ladders failing after having done that.
I’ll probably sell the place and let someone else deal with the tree. If left alone it may last a good while longer before becoming a problem. I mean to say that if the termites haven’t got at it by now, it should be a good while yet before they do eventually find an entry point.

Yes… but he hasn’t. He is a newbie. My previous post was in response to moll.

Seriously yes. I’m getting a bit or a lot more wary in my dotage. Not a good time of life to start thinking one is 17 agaiin.

This shot taken 11 years ago. Tree is much bigger now. Tree was planted as a small seedling in 1982.

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Date: 2/07/2020 08:17:43
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1582368
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

Divine Angel said:

Yes… but he hasn’t. He is a newbie. My previous post was in response to moll.

Seriously yes. I’m getting a bit or a lot more wary in my dotage. Not a good time of life to start thinking one is 17 agaiin.

This shot taken 11 years ago. Tree is much bigger now. Tree was planted as a small seedling in 1982.


Drone Branch Cutter ?

Copy and search that term

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Date: 2/07/2020 08:22:43
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1582369
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

How to cut a tree using a drone?

Epic Drone Tree Removal

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Date: 2/07/2020 08:27:20
From: roughbarked
ID: 1582370
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Tau.Neutrino said:


roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Seriously yes. I’m getting a bit or a lot more wary in my dotage. Not a good time of life to start thinking one is 17 agaiin.

This shot taken 11 years ago. Tree is much bigger now. Tree was planted as a small seedling in 1982.


Drone Branch Cutter ?

Copy and search that term

I’ll try that. This was in 2013. I dropped the whole tree in the small gap and did no damage at all to enev one shrub. Measured up when on the ground, the tree was only 14.3m and the yellow box right next to it had 10m on that at the time.

This represents the bigger bits of bark stripped off the tree. Termites and borers and drought all combined to cause me to remove the tree.

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Date: 2/07/2020 08:30:33
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1582371
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Tau.Neutrino said:


How to cut a tree using a drone?

Epic Drone Tree Removal

In this video a drone can be used to position rope over the tree, the drone does no cutting

a manual chain saw is then used to cut the branch using manual labour from both sides

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Date: 2/07/2020 08:34:09
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1582372
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

This one

KILLERDRONE! Flying chainsaw

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Date: 2/07/2020 08:37:11
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1582373
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

How Mythbuster Jamie Hyneman Hacked a Drone to Trim His Trees

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Date: 2/07/2020 08:44:16
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1582374
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Grab two pieces of long rope

get a manual chain saw

put the rope on one end of the manual chainsaw, and the other piece of rope on the other end

throw on end of the rope over the branch to be cut

then some hard work

done

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Date: 2/07/2020 08:50:30
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1582376
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Tau.Neutrino said:


Grab two pieces of long rope

get a manual chain saw

put the rope on one end of the manual chainsaw, and the other piece of rope on the other end

throw on end of the rope over the branch to be cut

then some hard work

done

this might be easier

tie one rope on one end of the manual chainsaw, then

throw the other rope over the branch to be cut

then tie it to the other end of the manual chain saw

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Date: 2/07/2020 08:51:57
From: roughbarked
ID: 1582377
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Grab two pieces of long rope

get a manual chain saw

put the rope on one end of the manual chainsaw, and the other piece of rope on the other end

throw on end of the rope over the branch to be cut

then some hard work

done

this might be easier

tie one rope on one end of the manual chainsaw, then

throw the other rope over the branch to be cut

then tie it to the other end of the manual chain saw

Most tree fellers worth their salt, do haul the chainsaw up on a rope.

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Date: 2/07/2020 08:54:12
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1582379
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

roughbarked said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Grab two pieces of long rope

get a manual chain saw

put the rope on one end of the manual chainsaw, and the other piece of rope on the other end

throw on end of the rope over the branch to be cut

then some hard work

done

this might be easier

tie one rope on one end of the manual chainsaw, then

throw the other rope over the branch to be cut

then tie it to the other end of the manual chain saw

Most tree fellers worth their salt, do haul the chainsaw up on a rope.

I want to know what a manual chainsaw is.

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Date: 2/07/2020 08:56:01
From: roughbarked
ID: 1582380
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Peak Warming Man said:


roughbarked said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

this might be easier

tie one rope on one end of the manual chainsaw, then

throw the other rope over the branch to be cut

then tie it to the other end of the manual chain saw

Most tree fellers worth their salt, do haul the chainsaw up on a rope.

I want to know what a manual chainsaw is.

Presumably, one that has to be pulled to start.

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Date: 2/07/2020 09:00:44
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1582381
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Peak Warming Man said:


roughbarked said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

this might be easier

tie one rope on one end of the manual chainsaw, then

throw the other rope over the branch to be cut

then tie it to the other end of the manual chain saw

Most tree fellers worth their salt, do haul the chainsaw up on a rope.

I want to know what a manual chainsaw is.

Its like a chain saw

a chain with blades on one side

here is is here

How to cut a tree using a drone?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of5Fw4hdGsc

scroll to 3:38

here
https://youtu.be/Of5Fw4hdGsc?t=218

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Date: 2/07/2020 09:02:00
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1582382
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Peak Warming Man said:


I want to know what a manual chainsaw is.

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Date: 2/07/2020 09:04:16
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1582383
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

this one is has blades on both sides

Homyall Limb Rope Saw- 48 Inch High Tree Limb Hand Chain Saw- Upgraded Chain with 50% More Blades- 62 Teeth- No Rope Included- Blades on Both Sides so it Doesn’t Matter How it Lands

https://www.amazon.com.au/Homyall-Upgraded-Blades-Teeth-Included/dp/B07MNR8RJ1

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Date: 2/07/2020 09:08:03
From: Tamb
ID: 1582384
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Tau.Neutrino said:


Peak Warming Man said:

roughbarked said:

Most tree fellers worth their salt, do haul the chainsaw up on a rope.

I want to know what a manual chainsaw is.

Its like a chain saw

a chain with blades on one side

here is is here

How to cut a tree using a drone?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of5Fw4hdGsc

scroll to 3:38

here
https://youtu.be/Of5Fw4hdGsc?t=218


It’s a wire with (normally) diamond pieces embedded in it. Ropes on both ends.

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Date: 2/07/2020 09:09:31
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1582386
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Bubblecar said:


Peak Warming Man said:

I want to know what a manual chainsaw is.

LOL

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Date: 2/07/2020 09:11:02
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1582387
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Tamb said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Peak Warming Man said:

I want to know what a manual chainsaw is.

Its like a chain saw

a chain with blades on one side

here is is here

How to cut a tree using a drone?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of5Fw4hdGsc

scroll to 3:38

here
https://youtu.be/Of5Fw4hdGsc?t=218


It’s a wire with (normally) diamond pieces embedded in it. Ropes on both ends.

handy for getting rid of stumps

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Date: 2/07/2020 09:19:15
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1582389
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Ebay have them for $25 dollars plus postage

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/High-Limb-Professional-Outdoor-CS-24-Rope-Chain-Saw-Tree-Branch-Cutter-AUFAST-/113447803230?_trksid=p2385738.m4383.l4275.c10

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Date: 2/07/2020 09:20:28
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1582391
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Tau.Neutrino said:


Ebay have them for $25 dollars plus postage

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/High-Limb-Professional-Outdoor-CS-24-Rope-Chain-Saw-Tree-Branch-Cutter-AUFAST-/113447803230?_trksid=p2385738.m4383.l4275.c10

Yeah seen them before but didn’t know them as manual chainsaws.

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Date: 2/07/2020 09:21:22
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1582393
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Peak Warming Man said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Ebay have them for $25 dollars plus postage

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/High-Limb-Professional-Outdoor-CS-24-Rope-Chain-Saw-Tree-Branch-Cutter-AUFAST-/113447803230?_trksid=p2385738.m4383.l4275.c10

Yeah seen them before but didn’t know them as manual chainsaws.

ok

they are also known as hand chain saws

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Date: 2/07/2020 09:30:29
From: roughbarked
ID: 1582394
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Tau.Neutrino said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Ebay have them for $25 dollars plus postage

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/High-Limb-Professional-Outdoor-CS-24-Rope-Chain-Saw-Tree-Branch-Cutter-AUFAST-/113447803230?_trksid=p2385738.m4383.l4275.c10

Yeah seen them before but didn’t know them as manual chainsaws.

ok

they are also known as hand chain saws

They are surely used by manuel Labour. He’s a hard working cove who’d probably be better off with a bicycle powered electric one.

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Date: 2/07/2020 09:57:16
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1582415
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

I cant wait for robo chain saw.

Ivans killer drone chain saw is a bit unsafe, needs some radio controls on it, chain speed and off.

Jamie Hyneman’s drone chainsaw looks better, a more customised design.

This is probably the way to go with it, find the target branch, clear a path to it, giving enough space for the height and width of the drone.

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Date: 2/07/2020 09:57:47
From: roughbarked
ID: 1582416
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

This tree is the one I’m thinking of how do I tidy that up at my age?

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Date: 2/07/2020 10:18:20
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1582438
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

roughbarked said:


This tree is the one I’m thinking of how do I tidy that up at my age?


Slowly

Some ideas

One way using around 4 / 5 people

With the hand chain saw and a couple of people on each end of the saw

another person or two with rope to pull on the branch being cut to pull away from the power lines or structures underneath the branch if necessary

another person to observe

some branches could be cut near the trunk of the tree

for branches near power lines or structures underneath start from the outside of the branch and work inwards

Get as much advice as you need to do the job in a safe way.

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Date: 2/07/2020 10:21:11
From: roughbarked
ID: 1582439
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Tau.Neutrino said:


roughbarked said:

This tree is the one I’m thinking of how do I tidy that up at my age?


Slowly

Some ideas

One way using around 4 / 5 people

With the hand chain saw and a couple of people on each end of the saw

another person or two with rope to pull on the branch being cut to pull away from the power lines or structures underneath the branch if necessary

another person to observe

some branches could be cut near the trunk of the tree

for branches near power lines or structures underneath start from the outside of the branch and work inwards

Get as much advice as you need to do the job in a safe way.

I’m gonna need a lot of orange cones and traffic supervisors, not to mention electrickery exspurts.

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Date: 2/07/2020 10:22:18
From: Cymek
ID: 1582440
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

roughbarked said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

roughbarked said:

This tree is the one I’m thinking of how do I tidy that up at my age?


Slowly

Some ideas

One way using around 4 / 5 people

With the hand chain saw and a couple of people on each end of the saw

another person or two with rope to pull on the branch being cut to pull away from the power lines or structures underneath the branch if necessary

another person to observe

some branches could be cut near the trunk of the tree

for branches near power lines or structures underneath start from the outside of the branch and work inwards

Get as much advice as you need to do the job in a safe way.

I’m gonna need a lot of orange cones and traffic supervisors, not to mention electrickery exspurts.

mollwollfumble may be available to help

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Date: 2/07/2020 10:24:31
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1582442
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

roughbarked said:


This tree is the one I’m thinking of how do I tidy that up at my age?


Bring it to the notice of the council.

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Date: 2/07/2020 10:25:04
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1582443
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

roughbarked said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

roughbarked said:

This tree is the one I’m thinking of how do I tidy that up at my age?


Slowly

Some ideas

One way using around 4 / 5 people

With the hand chain saw and a couple of people on each end of the saw

another person or two with rope to pull on the branch being cut to pull away from the power lines or structures underneath the branch if necessary

another person to observe

some branches could be cut near the trunk of the tree

for branches near power lines or structures underneath start from the outside of the branch and work inwards

Get as much advice as you need to do the job in a safe way.

I’m gonna need a lot of orange cones and traffic supervisors, not to mention electrickery exspurts.

Get professional advice first

Be prepared as possible

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Date: 2/07/2020 10:26:51
From: roughbarked
ID: 1582444
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Cymek said:


roughbarked said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Slowly

Some ideas

One way using around 4 / 5 people

With the hand chain saw and a couple of people on each end of the saw

another person or two with rope to pull on the branch being cut to pull away from the power lines or structures underneath the branch if necessary

another person to observe

some branches could be cut near the trunk of the tree

for branches near power lines or structures underneath start from the outside of the branch and work inwards

Get as much advice as you need to do the job in a safe way.

I’m gonna need a lot of orange cones and traffic supervisors, not to mention electrickery exspurts.

mollwollfumble may be available to help

That’s why I asked if he still had all his limbs, to come and help.

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Date: 2/07/2020 10:26:58
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1582445
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

You may need to consult with local council if the tree is close to a road.

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Date: 2/07/2020 10:31:01
From: Rule 303
ID: 1582447
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

roughbarked said:


This tree is the one I’m thinking of how do I tidy that up at my age?


Is most of the trunk inside your boundary?

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Date: 2/07/2020 10:39:04
From: roughbarked
ID: 1582457
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Rule 303 said:


roughbarked said:

This tree is the one I’m thinking of how do I tidy that up at my age?


Is most of the trunk inside your boundary?

I’ll have to do measurements. It has probably more than half the tree outside the boundary. I recall it was planted close to the boundary. SWMBO overruled me when I said “Best not to put that one there. Better out back of the back fence”.
Told her it would become a problem but she calls it the galah tree because it is often full of them.

Though this applies to all the birds and bees.

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Date: 2/07/2020 10:48:26
From: Rule 303
ID: 1582473
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

roughbarked said:


Rule 303 said:

roughbarked said:

This tree is the one I’m thinking of how do I tidy that up at my age?


Is most of the trunk inside your boundary?

I’ll have to do measurements. It has probably more than half the tree outside the boundary. I recall it was planted close to the boundary. SWMBO overruled me when I said “Best not to put that one there. Better out back of the back fence”.
Told her it would become a problem but she calls it the galah tree because it is often full of them.

Though this applies to all the birds and bees.


What sort of problems is it causing?

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Date: 2/07/2020 10:48:56
From: Tamb
ID: 1582475
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Peak Warming Man said:


roughbarked said:

This tree is the one I’m thinking of how do I tidy that up at my age?


Bring it to the notice of the council.

Is it on your property or the Council’s?

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Date: 2/07/2020 10:51:03
From: Tamb
ID: 1582478
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Tau.Neutrino said:


roughbarked said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Slowly

Some ideas

One way using around 4 / 5 people

With the hand chain saw and a couple of people on each end of the saw

another person or two with rope to pull on the branch being cut to pull away from the power lines or structures underneath the branch if necessary

another person to observe

some branches could be cut near the trunk of the tree

for branches near power lines or structures underneath start from the outside of the branch and work inwards

Get as much advice as you need to do the job in a safe way.

I’m gonna need a lot of orange cones and traffic supervisors, not to mention electrickery exspurts.

Get professional advice first

Be prepared as possible


Don’t know prices where you are but we had a large dangerous tree removed for about $300. Worth the money as it had to miss the garage, house & power lines.

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Date: 2/07/2020 10:59:53
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1582485
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Tamb said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

roughbarked said:

I’m gonna need a lot of orange cones and traffic supervisors, not to mention electrickery exspurts.

Get professional advice first

Be prepared as possible


Don’t know prices where you are but we had a large dangerous tree removed for about $300. Worth the money as it had to miss the garage, house & power lines.

Ive cut down a small small branches, I would not cut branches over power lines, unless they were small enough to lift by hand.

We had council cut down a big branch that was over power lines.

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Date: 2/07/2020 11:53:04
From: roughbarked
ID: 1582523
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Rule 303 said:


roughbarked said:

Rule 303 said:

Is most of the trunk inside your boundary?

I’ll have to do measurements. It has probably more than half the tree outside the boundary. I recall it was planted close to the boundary. SWMBO overruled me when I said “Best not to put that one there. Better out back of the back fence”.
Told her it would become a problem but she calls it the galah tree because it is often full of them.

Though this applies to all the birds and bees.


What sort of problems is it causing?

Not a lot really. Shades the house and parts of the garden a bit in winter. Frightens the neighbours when they see how much it flexes in the winds.
My main concerns are thta one side of the tree may threaten the house ay some tiime in the future or that a branch may drop on a passing car whenever it reaches that millionth pass.

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Date: 2/07/2020 11:53:48
From: roughbarked
ID: 1582524
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Tamb said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

roughbarked said:

I’m gonna need a lot of orange cones and traffic supervisors, not to mention electrickery exspurts.

Get professional advice first

Be prepared as possible


Don’t know prices where you are but we had a large dangerous tree removed for about $300. Worth the money as it had to miss the garage, house & power lines.

cheap. Must have been easier than you thought.

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Date: 2/07/2020 11:59:27
From: Tamb
ID: 1582532
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

roughbarked said:


Tamb said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Get professional advice first

Be prepared as possible


Don’t know prices where you are but we had a large dangerous tree removed for about $300. Worth the money as it had to miss the garage, house & power lines.

cheap. Must have been easier than you thought.


I live in a timber town. Anything to do with trees & wood is a doddle.
We were at a fire one time & this old bloke was helping clear a path. His axe seemed to cut through saplings like they were twigs.
I complimented him on his axe & he replied “It’s only my bush axe. It’ll cut you but not shave you.”

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Date: 2/07/2020 12:00:41
From: Rule 303
ID: 1582533
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

roughbarked said:


Rule 303 said:

roughbarked said:

I’ll have to do measurements. It has probably more than half the tree outside the boundary. I recall it was planted close to the boundary. SWMBO overruled me when I said “Best not to put that one there. Better out back of the back fence”.
Told her it would become a problem but she calls it the galah tree because it is often full of them.

Though this applies to all the birds and bees.


What sort of problems is it causing?

Not a lot really. Shades the house and parts of the garden a bit in winter. Frightens the neighbours when they see how much it flexes in the winds.
My main concerns are thta one side of the tree may threaten the house ay some tiime in the future or that a branch may drop on a passing car whenever it reaches that millionth pass.

I don’t know what your municipal trees crews are like, but down here they’re busy enough that your tree would probably never get any attention. Might need to come up with a better story if you want help from the shire.

;-)

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Date: 2/07/2020 12:07:44
From: Ian
ID: 1582539
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Tamb said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Get professional advice first

Be prepared as possible


Don’t know prices where you are but we had a large dangerous tree removed for about $300. Worth the money as it had to miss the garage, house & power lines.

Huh? I had a big old silky oak.. leaning and thoroughly hollowed out by termites.. felled by pros here recently.. $2500

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Date: 2/07/2020 13:11:26
From: roughbarked
ID: 1582581
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Rule 303 said:


roughbarked said:

Rule 303 said:

What sort of problems is it causing?

Not a lot really. Shades the house and parts of the garden a bit in winter. Frightens the neighbours when they see how much it flexes in the winds.
My main concerns are thta one side of the tree may threaten the house ay some tiime in the future or that a branch may drop on a passing car whenever it reaches that millionth pass.

I don’t know what your municipal trees crews are like, but down here they’re busy enough that your tree would probably never get any attention. Might need to come up with a better story if you want help from the shire.

;-)

One day one of the numerous trucks that comes past will do more serious pruning than they do now.

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Date: 2/07/2020 13:15:56
From: ruby
ID: 1582587
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Ian said:


Tamb said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Get professional advice first

Be prepared as possible


Don’t know prices where you are but we had a large dangerous tree removed for about $300. Worth the money as it had to miss the garage, house & power lines.

Huh? I had a big old silky oak.. leaning and thoroughly hollowed out by termites.. felled by pros here recently.. $2500

$1500 for my large red cedar to get the chop. And he will keep a portion of the trunk to make himself a coffee table. He’s had his eye on this tree for ages. I’ll have to ask what he’d charge if he doesn’t keep any.
I’m happy to pay the money and get a professional to do it, given the weight of just one minor branch. My local bloke has removed a large blue gum and a macadamia and trimmed a large branch that overhung the neighbour’s new shed site….he made it all look so easy. That’s what years of experience will do.

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Date: 2/07/2020 16:17:30
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1582707
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

ruby said:


Ian said:

Tamb said:

Don’t know prices where you are but we had a large dangerous tree removed for about $300. Worth the money as it had to miss the garage, house & power lines.

Huh? I had a big old silky oak.. leaning and thoroughly hollowed out by termites.. felled by pros here recently.. $2500

$1500 for my large red cedar to get the chop. And he will keep a portion of the trunk to make himself a coffee table. He’s had his eye on this tree for ages. I’ll have to ask what he’d charge if he doesn’t keep any.
I’m happy to pay the money and get a professional to do it, given the weight of just one minor branch. My local bloke has removed a large blue gum and a macadamia and trimmed a large branch that overhung the neighbour’s new shed site….he made it all look so easy. That’s what years of experience will do.

Prices vary I think, expensive in inner city areas, cheaper in country areas where nearly everyone has a chainsaw and experience.

Better to get council to get rid of the tree if its on council land or professionals for private property.

Trees and large branches can kill people, plenty of stories about that.

if doing it yourself use caution, use the right tools for the job, see dos and donts on tree felling on youtube, get advice, research a bit, assess if you can do it or not.

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Date: 2/07/2020 16:21:56
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1582708
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

There are courses available on using chainsaws

https://www.treetec.net.au/training-trees/chainsaw-course/

https://www.allstatestraining.qld.edu.au/courses/ahcarb205a-ahcarb202a-chainsaws

people can also get ladder licences

stuff like that.

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Date: 2/07/2020 17:35:02
From: roughbarked
ID: 1582724
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Tau.Neutrino said:


There are courses available on using chainsaws

https://www.treetec.net.au/training-trees/chainsaw-course/

https://www.allstatestraining.qld.edu.au/courses/ahcarb205a-ahcarb202a-chainsaws

people can also get ladder licences

stuff like that.

Think I have enough safety courses under my belt by now.

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Date: 2/07/2020 17:37:37
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1582729
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

roughbarked said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

There are courses available on using chainsaws

https://www.treetec.net.au/training-trees/chainsaw-course/

https://www.allstatestraining.qld.edu.au/courses/ahcarb205a-ahcarb202a-chainsaws

people can also get ladder licences

stuff like that.

Think I have enough safety courses under my belt by now.

Yes.

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Date: 2/07/2020 17:37:59
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1582730
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

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Date: 2/07/2020 17:46:55
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1582731
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Helicopter trimming guy would be expensive

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Date: 2/07/2020 17:47:56
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1582734
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Youtube video

Trimming trees by power line with helicopter

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Date: 2/07/2020 17:55:24
From: roughbarked
ID: 1582745
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Tau.Neutrino said:


Youtube video

Trimming trees by power line with helicopter

Fixed?

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Date: 2/07/2020 18:04:23
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1582750
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

roughbarked said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Youtube video

Trimming trees by power line with helicopter

Fixed?

The James Bond method is very fast.

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Date: 2/07/2020 18:09:21
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1582751
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

The World is Not Enough Movie CLIP – Helicopter Saw (1999) HD

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Date: 2/07/2020 18:14:10
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1582753
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

roughbarked said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Youtube video

Trimming trees by power line with helicopter

Fixed?

A bit over kill compared to the hand chainsaw.

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Date: 2/07/2020 18:24:01
From: party_pants
ID: 1582756
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Tau.Neutrino said:


Helicopter trimming guy would be expensive


Yes. But somehow still cheaper than lots of workers up ladders or boom lifts.

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Date: 2/07/2020 18:24:13
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1582757
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

I wonder how easy it would be to make a motorized version of the hand chain saw

a rope to throw over the branch, the device is hauled up on the rope which then can be activated by remote to clamp onto the branch, cuts the branch off to its right or left depending on which side its on, gets hauled down again, probably tools that do around.

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Date: 2/07/2020 18:28:23
From: party_pants
ID: 1582760
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Tau.Neutrino said:


I wonder how easy it would be to make a motorized version of the hand chain saw

a rope to throw over the branch, the device is hauled up on the rope which then can be activated by remote to clamp onto the branch, cuts the branch off to its right or left depending on which side its on, gets hauled down again, probably tools that do around.

There’s a few different versions of chainsaws mounted on flexible or telescopic arms to get into hard to reach places. These arms are attached to tractors, skid steers or tracked digger chassis type vehicles.

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Date: 2/07/2020 18:29:01
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1582761
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Professional Pole Pruners

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Date: 2/07/2020 18:32:17
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1582763
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

You can get very high with these

High Reach Limb Rope-and-Chain Saw with 48” Chain Branch Tree Saw Trimmer Rope
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/High-Reach-Limb-Rope-and-Chain-Saw-with-48-Chain-Branch-Tree-Saw-Trimmer-Rope-/114206502762?_trksid=p2385738.m4383.l4275.c10

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Date: 2/07/2020 18:34:56
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 1582765
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Tau.Neutrino said:


You can get very high with these

High Reach Limb Rope-and-Chain Saw with 48” Chain Branch Tree Saw Trimmer Rope
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/High-Reach-Limb-Rope-and-Chain-Saw-with-48-Chain-Branch-Tree-Saw-Trimmer-Rope-/114206502762?_trksid=p2385738.m4383.l4275.c10


I don’t know how these manual chainsaws would go on an ironbark.

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Date: 2/07/2020 18:37:41
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1582767
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

party_pants said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

I wonder how easy it would be to make a motorized version of the hand chain saw

a rope to throw over the branch, the device is hauled up on the rope which then can be activated by remote to clamp onto the branch, cuts the branch off to its right or left depending on which side its on, gets hauled down again, probably tools that do around.

There’s a few different versions of chainsaws mounted on flexible or telescopic arms to get into hard to reach places. These arms are attached to tractors, skid steers or tracked digger chassis type vehicles.

Yes, lots of different equipment around.

You see some around suburbs cutting trees around power lines, using trucks with an extendable hydrolytic 2 person bucket.

Tree surgeons

Arborists

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arborist

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Date: 2/07/2020 18:38:59
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1582768
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Trucks with extendable hydrolytic 2 person buckets are available for hire.

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Date: 2/07/2020 18:40:55
From: Rule 303
ID: 1582770
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Tau.Neutrino said:


party_pants said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

I wonder how easy it would be to make a motorized version of the hand chain saw

a rope to throw over the branch, the device is hauled up on the rope which then can be activated by remote to clamp onto the branch, cuts the branch off to its right or left depending on which side its on, gets hauled down again, probably tools that do around.

There’s a few different versions of chainsaws mounted on flexible or telescopic arms to get into hard to reach places. These arms are attached to tractors, skid steers or tracked digger chassis type vehicles.

Yes, lots of different equipment around.

You see some around suburbs cutting trees around power lines, using trucks with an extendable hydrolytic 2 person bucket.

Tree surgeons

Arborists

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arborist

As options for working safely in the head of a tree go, using a polesaw from a cherry picker is the safest.

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Date: 2/07/2020 18:43:49
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1582771
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Rule 303 said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

party_pants said:

There’s a few different versions of chainsaws mounted on flexible or telescopic arms to get into hard to reach places. These arms are attached to tractors, skid steers or tracked digger chassis type vehicles.

Yes, lots of different equipment around.

You see some around suburbs cutting trees around power lines, using trucks with an extendable hydrolytic 2 person bucket.

Tree surgeons

Arborists

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arborist

As options for working safely in the head of a tree go, using a polesaw from a cherry picker is the safest.

Yep, go that way, forget the helicopter.

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Date: 2/07/2020 19:09:51
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1582785
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

A check list for what required with tick boxes and dates will be handy for largish jobs.

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Date: 2/07/2020 19:14:06
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1582786
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Tau.Neutrino said:


A check list for what required with tick boxes and dates will be handy for largish jobs.

a date for council approved road closure, lane closure, partial lane closure etc

equipment

hired equipment

people

electricity people as you mentioned

Cherry picker truck

extendable chain saws

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Date: 2/07/2020 19:16:12
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1582787
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

A check list for what required with tick boxes and dates will be handy for largish jobs.

a date for council approved road closure, lane closure, partial lane closure etc

equipment

hired equipment

people

electricity people as you mentioned

Cherry picker truck

extendable chain saws

Those red hats you mentioned

workers ahead signs further up each way

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Date: 2/07/2020 19:19:33
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1582790
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

If you’ve down all that just ignore it.

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Date: 2/07/2020 19:20:36
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1582791
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

down = done

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Date: 2/07/2020 20:09:52
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1582796
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

out of interest

Using A Climbing Tree Stand

Tree Climbing Gear Spike Set Climbing Trees Buckle Wood Pole Buckle w/ Safe Belt

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Date: 3/07/2020 00:16:49
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1582867
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Rushes back in

Another consideration is if you need a crane or not.

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Date: 12/07/2020 04:49:55
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1588336
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

Cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck.

That’s me chickening out.

I got everything ready, then didn’t do it.

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Date: 12/07/2020 04:59:08
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1588337
Subject: re: Tree feller (nonsci)

mollwollfumble said:


Cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck.

That’s me chickening out.

I got everything ready, then didn’t do it.

probably wise.

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