Date: 28/06/2020 22:13:18
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1580804
Subject: Heat Engines in Space

cough, clears smoke

Could some designs of heat engines work in space?

Its pure sun energy one side, freezing on the other all the time.

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Date: 28/06/2020 22:25:48
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1580807
Subject: re: Heat Engines in Space

Heat engine facts for kids

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/heat-engines

Heat Engines

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Date: 28/06/2020 23:12:43
From: dv
ID: 1580811
Subject: re: Heat Engines in Space

The thing is, on a W/kg basis, heat engines are not great compared to PV, and in spaaaaaaace weight is pretty important.

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Date: 28/06/2020 23:23:05
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1580815
Subject: re: Heat Engines in Space

dv said:


The thing is, on a W/kg basis, heat engines are not great compared to PV, and in spaaaaaaace weight is pretty important.

What if they were just in one spot collecting energy then maybe using that energy to crush rock etc

They could be on the moon, mars, on a small asteroid, on a large ship, but collecting the energy from the sun then storing it for use later.

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Date: 28/06/2020 23:36:05
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1580817
Subject: re: Heat Engines in Space

Could miniature heat engines be of use to micro satellites?

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Date: 28/06/2020 23:37:59
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1580818
Subject: re: Heat Engines in Space

Has the space station experimented with heat engines?

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Date: 28/06/2020 23:38:45
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1580819
Subject: re: Heat Engines in Space

Could an enclosed steam engine work in space?

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Date: 28/06/2020 23:42:52
From: dv
ID: 1580820
Subject: re: Heat Engines in Space

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Date: 28/06/2020 23:43:56
From: dv
ID: 1580821
Subject: re: Heat Engines in Space

Another negative is that, as much as possible, spacecraft designers try to avoid moving parts.

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Date: 28/06/2020 23:47:24
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1580823
Subject: re: Heat Engines in Space

Could a heat engine on an asteroid in direct sunlight power a drill for rock?

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Date: 28/06/2020 23:54:41
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1580826
Subject: re: Heat Engines in Space

dv said:



Yes, asperger trait I think.

What sort of fish is that.

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Date: 28/06/2020 23:57:34
From: sibeen
ID: 1580827
Subject: re: Heat Engines in Space

Tau.Neutrino said:


dv said:


Yes, asperger trait I think.

What sort of fish is that.

ROFL

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Date: 29/06/2020 00:00:47
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1580828
Subject: re: Heat Engines in Space

sibeen said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

dv said:


Yes, asperger trait I think.

What sort of fish is that.

ROFL

it’d a newt.

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Date: 29/06/2020 00:01:52
From: Bogsnorkler
ID: 1580829
Subject: re: Heat Engines in Space

Bogsnorkler said:


sibeen said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Yes, asperger trait I think.

What sort of fish is that.

ROFL

it’d a newt.

The axolotl (/ˈæksəlɒtəl/, from Classical Nahuatl: āxōlōtl (About this soundlisten); plural axolotls or rarely axolomeh; Spanish: Ajolote), Ambystoma mexicanum, also known as the Mexican walking fish, is a neotenic salamander related to the tiger salamander. Although the axolotl is colloquially known as a “walking fish”, it is not a fish, but an amphibian. The species was originally found in several lakes, such as Lake Xochimilco underlying Mexico City. Axolotls are unusual among amphibians in that they reach adulthood without undergoing metamorphosis. Instead of developing lungs and taking to the land, adults remain aquatic and gilled.

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Date: 29/06/2020 00:14:50
From: dv
ID: 1580830
Subject: re: Heat Engines in Space

Tau.Neutrino said:


dv said:


Yes, asperger trait I think.

What sort of fish is that.

This is either some god tier trolling or I’m out.

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Date: 29/06/2020 00:18:12
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1580831
Subject: re: Heat Engines in Space

dv said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

dv said:


Yes, asperger trait I think.

What sort of fish is that.

This is either some god tier trolling or I’m out.

Ive never come across a Mexican walking fish until today.

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Date: 29/06/2020 00:19:31
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1580832
Subject: re: Heat Engines in Space

Tau.Neutrino said:


dv said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Yes, asperger trait I think.

What sort of fish is that.

This is either some god tier trolling or I’m out.

Ive never come across a Mexican walking fish until today.

Looking at them on google images a lot have different expressions.

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Date: 29/06/2020 00:36:29
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1580833
Subject: re: Heat Engines in Space

or thermocouples

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Date: 29/06/2020 00:38:55
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1580834
Subject: re: Heat Engines in Space

Bogsnorkler said:


Bogsnorkler said:

sibeen said:

dv said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

dv said:


Yes, asperger trait I think.

What sort of fish is that.

This is either some god tier trolling or I’m out.

ROFL

it’d a newt.

The axolotl (/ˈæksəlɒtəl/, from Classical Nahuatl: āxōlōtl (About this soundlisten); plural axolotls or rarely axolomeh; Spanish: Ajolote), Ambystoma mexicanum, also known as the Mexican walking fish, is a neotenic salamander related to the tiger salamander. Although the axolotl is colloquially known as a “walking fish”, it is not a fish, but an amphibian. The species was originally found in several lakes, such as Lake Xochimilco underlying Mexico City. Axolotls are unusual among amphibians in that they reach adulthood without undergoing metamorphosis. Instead of developing lungs and taking to the land, adults remain aquatic and gilled.

aye newt

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Date: 29/06/2020 01:12:43
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1580841
Subject: re: Heat Engines in Space

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

dv said:

This is either some god tier trolling or I’m out.

Ive never come across a Mexican walking fish until today.

Looking at them on google images a lot have different expressions.

https://www.abc.net.au/radio-australia/programs/pacificmornings/shark-walk/11909492

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Date: 29/06/2020 01:42:06
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1580842
Subject: re: Heat Engines in Space

SCIENCE said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Ive never come across a Mexican walking fish until today.

Looking at them on google images a lot have different expressions.

https://www.abc.net.au/radio-australia/programs/pacificmornings/shark-walk/11909492

They’ll be walking spiders next.

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Date: 29/06/2020 01:53:08
From: dv
ID: 1580845
Subject: re: Heat Engines in Space

Tau.Neutrino said:


SCIENCE said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Looking at them on google images a lot have different expressions.

https://www.abc.net.au/radio-australia/programs/pacificmornings/shark-walk/11909492

They’ll be walking spiders next.

There are walking spiders.

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Date: 29/06/2020 03:27:44
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1580858
Subject: re: Heat Engines in Space

I’m with dv here.

The best use of heat in space is for producing hot water for washing.
Photovoltaics provide better performance for electricity production.

I’m trying to think whether a solar heat engine on the Moon could be useful. I specifically say the Moon because the day-night temperature difference on the Moon can be 270 degrees C. You won’t get temperature differences like that anywhere else in the solar system other than in the sulfur volcanos of Io.

For a solar heat engine on the Moon, you’d have to run pipes under the soil, which means bulldozing the soil off first, laying the pipes, replacing the soil and laying a second set of pipes on the surface. Which is a lot of work.

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Date: 1/07/2020 09:21:11
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 1581847
Subject: re: Heat Engines in Space

mollwollfumble said:


I’m with dv here.

The best use of heat in space is for producing hot water for washing.
Photovoltaics provide better performance for electricity production.

I’m trying to think whether a solar heat engine on the Moon could be useful. I specifically say the Moon because the day-night temperature difference on the Moon can be 270 degrees C. You won’t get temperature differences like that anywhere else in the solar system other than in the sulfur volcanos of Io.

For a solar heat engine on the Moon, you’d have to run pipes under the soil, which means bulldozing the soil off first, laying the pipes, replacing the soil and laying a second set of pipes on the surface. Which is a lot of work.

Why not just use mirrors to concentrate the light, and generate steam, just like solar-thermal power on Earth?

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