Date: 24/07/2020 16:57:29
From: transition
ID: 1595289
Subject: the want to be convinced

….by ones own mind

imagine the problems that’s going to have, if it never rested

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Date: 24/07/2020 17:14:37
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1595308
Subject: re: the want to be convinced

Examples?

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Date: 24/07/2020 19:25:09
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1595464
Subject: re: the want to be convinced

transition said:


….by ones own mind

imagine the problems that’s going to have, if it never rested

That’s quite a can of worms.

The words “reduction of cognitive dissonance” comes to mind.

Consider for instance, someone who for personal reasons wanted to become a Christian. How to do that?

Or some student perhaps who wanted to be convince themselves that relativity is correct. How to do that?

There’s the innate need for certainty, it can be very uncomfortable psychologically not believing an anything.

“The long quest” is a quest for the correct answer in a religious world. A quest that is valuable while it lasts, but should never end.

I can’t help trying all this into the desire to be convinced that the end of the world is just around the corner.

Do such convictions offer a meaning of life, no matter how shallow?

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Date: 24/07/2020 19:28:03
From: roughbarked
ID: 1595469
Subject: re: the want to be convinced

mollwollfumble said:


To become a Christian. How to do that?

Mouth around Cardinal Pell’s member?

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Date: 24/07/2020 20:22:56
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1595557
Subject: re: the want to be convinced

ah, the Catholick

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Date: 25/07/2020 00:43:59
From: transition
ID: 1595734
Subject: re: the want to be convinced

>The words “reduction of cognitive dissonance” comes to mind

I wonder if persistent unconclusion has always been so, that a mind’s work in progress might perhaps become as extended quiet periods went in a car with traveling children courtesy Dickens’ boredom

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Date: 25/07/2020 00:47:54
From: Bubblecar
ID: 1595740
Subject: re: the want to be convinced

I’m convinced that the world is whatever it is, and that I will die with limited understanding of these matters.

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Date: 25/07/2020 12:14:51
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1595889
Subject: re: the want to be convinced

SCIENCE said:


ah, the Catholick

That word now has deeper connotations.

:)

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Date: 25/07/2020 12:27:29
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1595894
Subject: re: the want to be convinced

transition said:


….by ones own mind

imagine the problems that’s going to have, if it never rested

Is this about creation?

Consider these statements

We live within the universe, people are within the universe, not separate from it.

Convince me that the universe is God

Convince me that the universe is the universe and is not something else

Convince me that we are within the universe and are a part of it, not separate entities that can freely leave it.

How will you convince me?, with logic?, with facts?, opinion?, pictures, words?, diagrams?, mathematics?, physics?, science?, observation and validation? information?, knowledge ?

or made up stuff about nothing that exists at all?

Some use false information, physical and or emotional violence, coercion and bias to convince others….

Some use science to convince others.

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Date: 25/07/2020 12:32:57
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1595900
Subject: re: the want to be convinced

Some use science to convince others.

Some use religion to convince others.

Some like scientology use pseudoscience to convince others

Some use emotions and charm to convince others

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Date: 25/07/2020 12:35:33
From: transition
ID: 1595903
Subject: re: the want to be convinced

9.1mm rain, lady just did the read, tipped it out and writ it up, all official

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Date: 25/07/2020 12:36:16
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1595906
Subject: re: the want to be convinced

Tau.Neutrino said:


Some use science to convince others.

Some use religion to convince others.

Some like scientology use pseudoscience to convince others

Some use emotions and charm to convince others

Some like holding babies in front of cameras to convince others….

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Date: 25/07/2020 12:37:21
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1595907
Subject: re: the want to be convinced

transition said:


9.1mm rain, lady just did the read, tipped it out and writ it up, all official

Rain is good.

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Date: 25/07/2020 12:37:45
From: Tamb
ID: 1595908
Subject: re: the want to be convinced

transition said:


9.1mm rain, lady just did the read, tipped it out and writ it up, all official

To be truly official the rain should be read at 9am.

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Date: 25/07/2020 12:40:02
From: Tau.Neutrino
ID: 1595912
Subject: re: the want to be convinced

Tamb said:


transition said:

9.1mm rain, lady just did the read, tipped it out and writ it up, all official

To be truly official the rain should be read at 9am.

Is the rain level allowed to be partially official or nearly official ?

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Date: 25/07/2020 12:41:52
From: Tamb
ID: 1595914
Subject: re: the want to be convinced

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tamb said:

transition said:

9.1mm rain, lady just did the read, tipped it out and writ it up, all official

To be truly official the rain should be read at 9am.

Is the rain level allowed to be partially official or nearly official ?


Sort of.

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Date: 25/07/2020 12:45:11
From: transition
ID: 1595918
Subject: re: the want to be convinced

Tau.Neutrino said:


Tamb said:

transition said:

9.1mm rain, lady just did the read, tipped it out and writ it up, all official

To be truly official the rain should be read at 9am.

Is the rain level allowed to be partially official or nearly official ?

often the rain gauge is read but not tipped out, because that lot of rain is considered to have perhaps not ended, a sort of progress report, but when a rain event is considered to have passed, then the gauge is read and rain tipped out of the gauge, and the amount written up, the official report has an entry in the rain diary

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Date: 25/07/2020 12:46:04
From: Michael V
ID: 1595919
Subject: re: the want to be convinced

Tamb said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Tamb said:

To be truly official the rain should be read at 9am.

Is the rain level allowed to be partially official or nearly official ?


Sort of.

I have an ORB that I measure at 9am (or thereabouts).

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Date: 25/07/2020 12:53:18
From: transition
ID: 1595924
Subject: re: the want to be convinced

transition said:


Tau.Neutrino said:

Tamb said:

To be truly official the rain should be read at 9am.

Is the rain level allowed to be partially official or nearly official ?

often the rain gauge is read but not tipped out, because that lot of rain is considered to have perhaps not ended, a sort of progress report, but when a rain event is considered to have passed, then the gauge is read and rain tipped out of the gauge, and the amount written up, the official report has an entry in the rain diary

it gets more complex when there aren’t really distinguishable ends to rain events, so anytime really, between showers, the important thing is it adds up, is accurate, has an accompanying date, and as things go the weather lady here is quite good like that

give her a tape measure though with inches on one side and centimetres on the other, helping measure something to do an order for materials, a person might only do that once and resolve to do all the measuring themselves thereafter

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Date: 25/07/2020 12:58:10
From: Tamb
ID: 1595929
Subject: re: the want to be convinced

Michael V said:


Tamb said:

Tau.Neutrino said:

Is the rain level allowed to be partially official or nearly official ?


Sort of.

I have an ORB that I measure at 9am (or thereabouts).


Mz Tamb was the official rain & river height recorder at Cardstone when I worked at Kareeya Power Station.

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