Date: 26/07/2020 16:30:03
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1596507
Subject: Agricultural pandemics?

On today’s Landline they were talking about Pasture dieback disease.

Which made me wonder about agricultural pandemics such as Varroa mite and paralysis tick.

What are the worst agricultural pandemics in the world today and how is progress towards eliminating them?

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Date: 26/07/2020 16:32:48
From: SCIENCE
ID: 1596509
Subject: re: Agricultural pandemics?

vesicular stomatitis, eastern equine encephalitis, african swine fever, equine piroplasmosis, let someone else take measures

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Date: 26/07/2020 16:36:08
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1596513
Subject: re: Agricultural pandemics?

SCIENCE said:


vesicular stomatitis, eastern equine encephalitis, african swine fever, equine piroplasmosis, let someone else take measures

Thanks! Good start.

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Date: 26/07/2020 16:59:35
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1596530
Subject: re: Agricultural pandemics?

I liked the remedy of planting oats. It would be interesting to know what else could be planted. Chicory?. Sorghum?

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Date: 26/07/2020 17:02:06
From: Michael V
ID: 1596531
Subject: re: Agricultural pandemics?

sarahs mum said:


I liked the remedy of planting oats. It would be interesting to know what else could be planted. Chicory?. Sorghum?

Remedy for what?

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Date: 26/07/2020 17:03:22
From: sarahs mum
ID: 1596532
Subject: re: Agricultural pandemics?

Michael V said:


sarahs mum said:

I liked the remedy of planting oats. It would be interesting to know what else could be planted. Chicory?. Sorghum?

Remedy for what?

The mealy bug that is eating Italian and native grass root systems. Lot of Nthn QLD is having pasture dieback atm.

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Date: 26/07/2020 17:04:53
From: Michael V
ID: 1596534
Subject: re: Agricultural pandemics?

sarahs mum said:


Michael V said:

sarahs mum said:

I liked the remedy of planting oats. It would be interesting to know what else could be planted. Chicory?. Sorghum?

Remedy for what?

The mealy bug that is eating Italian and native grass root systems. Lot of Nthn QLD is having pasture dieback atm.

Ta.

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Date: 26/07/2020 17:09:02
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1596536
Subject: re: Agricultural pandemics?

> I liked the remedy of planting oats. It would be interesting to know what else could be planted.

Ditto. You saw the program. Yes. Pasture oats is resistant to pasture dieback that kills imported and native grasses.

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Date: 26/07/2020 17:10:14
From: Michael V
ID: 1596537
Subject: re: Agricultural pandemics?

Michael V said:


sarahs mum said:

Michael V said:

Remedy for what?

The mealy bug that is eating Italian and native grass root systems. Lot of Nthn QLD is having pasture dieback atm.

Ta.

https://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/agriculture/pastures-and-rangelands/establishment-mgmt/pests-and-diseases/pasture-dieback#:~:text=Q%20%26%20A%20session-,About%20pasture%20dieback,in%20these%20areas%20is%20low.

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Date: 27/07/2020 05:48:16
From: roughbarked
ID: 1596668
Subject: re: Agricultural pandemics?

https://www.mla.com.au/globalassets/mla-corporate/research-and-development/program-areas/grazing-and-pasture-management/pasture-mealybugs-technical-note.pdf

https://cms.qut.edu.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0006/786066/pasture-mealybugs-technical-note.pdf

Interesting that white ground pearl was also mentioned but not pink ground pearl.

Two things to be noticed first is that the problem was first noticed in Qld where ground pearls are abundant and it is the pink ground pear that is the problem in sugar cane.. They are also abundant in northern NSW and WA. In WA it is the pink ground pearl that does more damage since grasses seem to tolerate high numbers of white ground pearls without noticeable damage.

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Date: 27/07/2020 05:52:41
From: roughbarked
ID: 1596669
Subject: re: Agricultural pandemics?

roughbarked said:


https://www.mla.com.au/globalassets/mla-corporate/research-and-development/program-areas/grazing-and-pasture-management/pasture-mealybugs-technical-note.pdf

https://cms.qut.edu.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0006/786066/pasture-mealybugs-technical-note.pdf

Interesting that white ground pearl was also mentioned but not pink ground pearl.

Two things to be noticed first is that the problem was first noticed in Qld where ground pearls are abundant and it is the pink ground pear that is the problem in sugar cane.. They are also abundant in northern NSW and WA. In WA it is the pink ground pearl that does more damage since grasses seem to tolerate high numbers of white ground pearls without noticeable damage.


https://www.agric.wa.gov.au/biosecurity/ground-pearls-insect-pests-lawns-and-turf

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Date: 27/07/2020 05:55:05
From: roughbarked
ID: 1596670
Subject: re: Agricultural pandemics?

mollwollfumble said:


On today’s Landline they were talking about Pasture dieback disease.

Which made me wonder about agricultural pandemics such as Varroa mite and paralysis tick.

What are the worst agricultural pandemics in the world today and how is progress towards eliminating them?

I think we need to worry not about the worst pandemics in the world and concentrate more on our pandemics. To lead, we need to wash our own hands first.

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Date: 27/07/2020 06:05:58
From: roughbarked
ID: 1596671
Subject: re: Agricultural pandemics?

roughbarked said:


mollwollfumble said:

On today’s Landline they were talking about Pasture dieback disease.

Which made me wonder about agricultural pandemics such as Varroa mite and paralysis tick.

What are the worst agricultural pandemics in the world today and how is progress towards eliminating them?

I think we need to worry not about the worst pandemics in the world and concentrate more on our pandemics. To lead, we need to wash our own hands first.

Another part of that program was the cattle tick.
Interesting that it all revolves around pasturing cattle.

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Date: 27/07/2020 06:11:46
From: roughbarked
ID: 1596673
Subject: re: Agricultural pandemics?

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

mollwollfumble said:

On today’s Landline they were talking about Pasture dieback disease.

Which made me wonder about agricultural pandemics such as Varroa mite and paralysis tick.

What are the worst agricultural pandemics in the world today and how is progress towards eliminating them?

I think we need to worry not about the worst pandemics in the world and concentrate more on our pandemics. To lead, we need to wash our own hands first.

Another part of that program was the cattle tick.
Interesting that it all revolves around pasturing cattle.

Cattle are well known for their benefits (we will talk about these first). Amongst these benefits is a link to the much abused biodynamics. which in its own way is linked to permaculture.
Both nuch poo pooed as woo by so many scientists and farmers as well.

It is probably time they listened?

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Date: 27/07/2020 06:42:16
From: roughbarked
ID: 1596681
Subject: re: Agricultural pandemics?

Soils are a very important component of pasture lands and though these differ in many places, we tend to expect the same production levels from them.
I’m not going to rave on about the numbers of microbes in a thimble full of soil but only to bring them to the attention of Mollwoll since his mention of pandemic seems only to be concentrating on single organisms.

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Date: 27/07/2020 08:30:22
From: roughbarked
ID: 1596723
Subject: re: Agricultural pandemics?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2019-08-28/history-repeats-as-destructive-mealybug-identified-in-dieback/11455468

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Date: 27/07/2020 08:59:14
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1596728
Subject: re: Agricultural pandemics?

roughbarked said:


https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2019-08-28/history-repeats-as-destructive-mealybug-identified-in-dieback/11455468

> there are no emergency permits for pesticide use

Now that’s both ridiculous and stupid.

There have to be emergency permits for such things. For covid-19 antivirals as well.

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Date: 27/07/2020 09:38:44
From: roughbarked
ID: 1596753
Subject: re: Agricultural pandemics?

mollwollfumble said:


roughbarked said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2019-08-28/history-repeats-as-destructive-mealybug-identified-in-dieback/11455468

> there are no emergency permits for pesticide use

Now that’s both ridiculous and stupid.

There have to be emergency permits for such things. For covid-19 antivirals as well.

“Pesticides are not the solution for this one; for large-scale control, it’s not appropriate.”

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Date: 27/07/2020 09:40:16
From: roughbarked
ID: 1596755
Subject: re: Agricultural pandemics?

roughbarked said:


mollwollfumble said:

roughbarked said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2019-08-28/history-repeats-as-destructive-mealybug-identified-in-dieback/11455468

> there are no emergency permits for pesticide use

Now that’s both ridiculous and stupid.

There have to be emergency permits for such things. For covid-19 antivirals as well.

“Pesticides are not the solution for this one; for large-scale control, it’s not appropriate.”

Such actions interfere with the breeding of predatory insects and may be toxic to other predators suchs as birds.

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Date: 27/07/2020 10:11:47
From: roughbarked
ID: 1596766
Subject: re: Agricultural pandemics?

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

mollwollfumble said:

> there are no emergency permits for pesticide use

Now that’s both ridiculous and stupid.

There have to be emergency permits for such things. For covid-19 antivirals as well.

“Pesticides are not the solution for this one; for large-scale control, it’s not appropriate.”

Such actions interfere with the breeding of predatory insects and may be toxic to other predators suchs as birds.

Agribusiness already impacts the soil life in so many ways always seeking the holy grail without simply revering it, respecting it. Being the most efficient may have its garlands but being the most wholesome is perhaps the gravel rash alternative.

ref: gravel rash = multigrain bread.

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Date: 29/07/2020 13:40:59
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 1597680
Subject: re: Agricultural pandemics?

roughbarked said:


mollwollfumble said:

roughbarked said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2019-08-28/history-repeats-as-destructive-mealybug-identified-in-dieback/11455468

> there are no emergency permits for pesticide use

Now that’s both ridiculous and stupid.

There have to be emergency permits for such things. For covid-19 antivirals as well.

“Pesticides are not the solution for this one; for large-scale control, it’s not appropriate.”

Which is why it needs an emergency permit to be used very early, before it spreads.

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